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Evil Egg — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:57:21 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Bubs Evolution */

== How exactly are they freed? ==
Sooo, does the KOT poop them out? Is it safe to assume that? - SCCakes
:considering the color of the gunk on strong bad at the end, i say no. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's one of those things best left to the viewer's imagination. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'm fairly certain there's a reason the TBC and Strong BAd failed to explain what happened in detail....--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 20:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::::I just figured that he drank up the jello and they were left behind. I guessed that the 'sensation' that Strong Bad felt was the jello around him being sucked up. --{{User:GardenBoy/sig}} 01:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

== Death!??!?! ==

Is this the end of Pom Pom?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? -Alex H.
:Well, if Homestar escaped the [[Horrible Painting]] in [[Jibblies 2]], I'm sure Pom Pom can escape the vast emptiness of space. - [[User:OkayGraphics|OkayGraphics]] 14:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::Homestar also escaped the water cooler... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:36, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::And, in the most glaringly similar situation, Strong Mad came back from space in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|MLS]]; and before the end of the 'toon even — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 15:14, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

== Nebulon first times ==

Thisis the first time we actually see Nebulon in a toon or sbemail, right? -Ein Poltergeist (not a dumptruck)
:If you don't count when he was [[PBTC]], then yes. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 14:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::i've added a remark for this. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 21:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:::'Cept for his debut: [[Main Page 1]]. How's that count? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::::well, it's still his first appearance in a cartoon/sbemail, so i don't think we should worry about his Main Page appearance. at least not with how i worded the remark. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 21:10, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mention where Red Angelo comes from ==

Nobody has put this in yet, but, the Red Angelo and the other kids names commented on come from the urban legend of kids being named Orangejello and Lemonjello.

http://www.snopes.com/racial/language/names.asp

:I volunteer in a NBICU and I am sorry to say that there are actually people who have named their children this. [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 18:31, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::I know for a fact that I live about 10 miles away from Lemonjello and Orangejello. [[User:Kevin G. Dannerson|Kevin G. Dannerson]] 19:07, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:This is claimed as fact in the book Freakonomics, so I put it in with a reference. I think it's pretty clear as a reference to the event itself, though whether or not they actually got it from Freakonomics is uncertain. Keep in mind, though, it's a recent bestseller that sold three million copies, so it's a likely source. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

::This story has been around waaay longer than Freakonomics. I heard it when I was a kid in the 80's. The Freakonomics text is very unlikely to be the source; why would the Chaps brothers mention another very common urban legend (the headlights flashed at a gangster car) at the same time unless they were referring to common urban legends.

:::Good point. I entered that just before I read the Snopes story about headlights, which I'd never heard before. Makes more sense now; Freakonomics was probably passing it along without knowing whether it was true or not just like everyone else. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== Is this the first time the King of Town was actually USEFUL? ==

In Strong Bad's perspective, at least.-Thnikkafan
:This statement is purely speculation. Some would agree, while some would say he has been useful before.--{{User:GardenBoy/sig}} 01:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

==New Animations==

two notable points.
1) as someone put somewhere in Fun Facts, bubs' arms are animated like coach z's were in [[Trogday 08]]. BUT!! they were already animated like this in [[nightlife]] and [[Happy Dethemberween]].
2) we've never, NEVER seen strong bad's mouth do what it's doing at the end of the email.
somebody should fit these into the remarks
--[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 15:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
: all i know, is that whoever wrote that fun fact failed to use english grammar rules or something. I read it 4 or 5 times and only have a guess as to what it means -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 17:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::i see what you mean. i didn't read it carefully the first time. well, since i now have time, i guess i'll just handle this bit myself. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:27, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
actually, i move that we no longer bother with mentioning the new animation style for bubs' arms, if not including this sbemail, than from now on. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:I agree. There's no point in mentioning it every time. --[[User:Foolster41|Foolster41]] 20:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== Space station ==

At first I thought the space station in the space background was a copy of the one from [[Wikipedia:2001: A Space Odyssey (film)|2001: A Space Odyssey]]. Then I looked up some images I realized that the original was a double wheel and not really that similar. The only striking feature they share is the "centrifuge wheel" design, which I imagine is not unique. Is there a station somewhere in sci-fi that looks more similar to this one? Something from Star Trek, maybe? (I browsed around [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Main_Page Memory Alpha], but nothing jumped out at me. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:That's exactly the point, the centrifuge design isn't unique. The Brothers Chaps could have seen the idea anydangwhere. Also, didn't it appear in [[theme song]]? [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 13:55, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

== Flavors ==

If we don't have a running gag about flavors, we should. (If it already exists, I couldn't find it.) I thought about just "Color Flavors" but we also have water described as Malinko- and Strong Bad-flavored water (in [[rough copy]]). We have orange- and black-flavored from [[Malloween Commercial]], Bubs's sno-cone flavors, and the drinks in [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]]. Any name suggestions? Anyone is welcome to take this ball and run with it; I ain't so gung-ho about creating articles at the moment. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:36, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:I dunno, we could have an [[Unusual Flavors]] or a [[Flavor Variations]] section for things like the flavored water and the orange-and-black marshmallows, respectively, but I don't think normal flavors like grape, cherry, green apple, etc. deserve a mention outside of the articles about the food/drink.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 19:22, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::[[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] created [[Color flavored]]. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:41, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Interesting. Without reading this discussion I made [[Color flavored]]. Modestly Ok minds think very closely, right? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::::In my defense, I was talking about flavors, not-color flavors. Still, my bad. Sorry.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 19:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
== Highly Intellectual Property ==

Are there anymore instances of Strong Sad wearing the glasses he wears in this sbemail and [[rough copy]]. I'm wondering if they can be featured as a running gag.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 19:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:didn't he also wear those in [[business trip]]? --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think so. Those had legs, or whatever you call the part of the glasses that are held up by the ears. They might be a variation though. I haven't seen the DVD, but could someone who has tell me if they're the same glasses that are featured in [[Accent]]?--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 20:43, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== Gel-Arshie ==

the jello marshie has a visible brain. worth mentioning? ---[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:I think a better place to bring this up would be [[Gel-arshie|here]].--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 20:58, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== State-shaped gelatin blob on Strong Bad? ==

Does anyone else see that Strong Bad has a glob of gelatin on his pants toward the end of the e-mail in the shape of the state of Florida? Or am I crazy? Is this worth a mention?
:I don't think it's worth a mention. We eventually decided not to note the smiley face-shaped globs of whatsit adorning the Hornblower in [[KOT's VOQPCS!]]. The notability requires intent, you see. It's likely coincidence. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:46, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::Definitely not a coincidence. It looks unmistakably like florida. It seems to me TBC are playing the hidden shapes game now, as this isn't the first time they've done this, and i bet we could find many more stated or whatnot in other places where blotchiness appear. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:58, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I totally agree. When I first saw it, I tried to click on it. If you google "florida jello", the first result is a picture of hot girls wrestling in jello from the university of florida... you think that could be it? [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 05:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

== Inside reference is probably wrong. ==

It's probably not the first time this has happened. Anyways, I don't think that the comic was named for Real Mutants #87 (Obscure, I'm sure). I think it was named so because of the fact that it was email 1'''87'''. I'm sorry, obscure comic fanboys, but it's not true. Try again next time. - [[User:Eruption257|Eruption257]]

==Skateboarding==
I know he said it was imaginary, but wouldn't Strong Bad look cool skateboarding?[[User:Hooray4Trogdor95|Hooray4Trogdor95]] 02:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:You mean like [[looking old|with a helmet, knee and shoulder pads, and a tube of yogurt]] — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 11:35, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry, I to am so on the go that I forgot that picture:and drink yogurt from a tube[[User:Hooray4Trogdor95|Hooray4Trogdor95]] 12:12, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::That's right, Hooray4Wormdingler95, you drink everything from a tube — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 14:33, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::This is getting VERY forumy. --{{User:GardenBoy/sig}} 01:32, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

==Bubs Evolution==
Am I crazy, or is Bubs undergoing anatha evolution stage? He looks a little different... {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:No, they've just started doing his arms differently. ALso, it's spelt "another". [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 13:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

== Frog Eggs ==
<blockquote>
"Frog Eggs" refers to the science fiction novel ''[[Wikipedia:His Master's Voice (novel)|His Master's Voice]]'' by [[Wikipedia:Stanisław Lem|Stanisław Lem]], in which scientists try to decipher an alien message, but only manage to create a gelatin-like substance they call "Frog Eggs".
</blockquote>
The "Frog Eggs" reference seems to be too far-fetched for me. There's no real relation, apart from the two words. [[User:JudgeDeadd|JudgeDeadd]] 04:31, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::I dunno, I think it makes sense, since we're talking gelatinous things (such as jell-o) here that TBC may have intended that one. [[User:Cheesius|-- Cheesius]] 11:35, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I think the definitive proof for the fact is Strong Sad (the geeky character) says "I don't even get that one", telling us that the reference is obscure. I think the reference provided is obscure enough to fit what Gron Sad says. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 11:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::That's a ridicolous kind of "proof". There's absolutely no proof that this is what was intended, apart from the name ("frog eggs" is a common phrase!), gelatinuosity (real frog eggs are truly gelatinous, aren't they?), and notice that Strong Bad is saying "How we doing here, frog eggs?" - thus implying he was referring to Homestar and Strong Sad, not the stuff in the pool.
:::::The fact here isn't just about Frog Eggs, it's about the science fiction novel "His Master's Voice" by Stanislaw Lem, which is something that would generally be within Strong Sad's geekines. We're talking about Jell-o here, and unless anyone can come up with another 'frog eggs' linkage, and moreover one that fits the "I don't even" comment, I say the fact stays. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 13:29, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::Removed. Stuff it if you wish--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 16:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Re-added. I think we should give this maybe more than 12 hours of discussion before we make a decision. —[[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 16:55, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I doubt it's a reference. Your proof about even strong sad not getting it holds no water, as the point of making references is for people to get them and find them funny. If i was making a cartoon and I made a reference to some inside joke i have with my roommate, would that be funny to the rest of the world? no. Furthermore, SB was referring to SS and HR, not the jello. please burninate this fact. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Re-re-removed. A reference this flimsy and obsure should be assumed incorrect and moved to STUFF.--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 17:00, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Seven thumbs down on this "fact". {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:01, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::Mycroft, if you want it STUFFed, then STUFF it, but don't keep edit warring. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:02, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::We've been preferring talk page discussion to STUFF where possible lately, which is very much as it should be. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:03, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::TBC have made exceptionally obscure references before. In [[web comics]] this fact was STUFF'd and accepted. # "Web in Front" is a song by North Carolina-based indie rock band Archers of Loaf. Just because it's obscure doesn't mean it is any less true. &mdash[[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 17:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::But that was where clicking on "web in front" produces a sign saying "go loaf". Here there's no such connection. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Frog Eyes means Jell-o is referenced, and characters themselves refer to its obscurity. I see that at least as much a connection as Web in Front and the word Loaf — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 17:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::: I think that the connection between the two very plausible, since we are talking about a fairly famous science fiction novel, and there is a linkage between the word SB uses and the substance in that particular novel ''and'' in the pool. And I would use a counter example to DeFender's argument; Mystery Science Theater often pulled in the most obscure references. The point was not that everybody got it, but if only a few people did. In this case, "Frog Eggs" on the surface seems like a non-sequitur by Strong Bad, but if you know the novel, then you get the joke. It strikes me that TBC are the type of people that would love to put in that sort of multilayered reference in occasionally. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:Working on STUFF entry now--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 17:10, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'm a bit disappointed we've ended up once again at a vote rather than discussion, but I guess it's better than an edit war. :-S {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::: STUFFed. IMHO, highly questionable facts like this one should NOT be added to the article. They need to be here or in STUFF until accepted or rejected.--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 17:16, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

== Your Funeral ==

Homestar and Strong Bad's voices are distorted similarly to how Strong Bad's was after he was preserved in the funeral episode. That it's a reference is strengthened by Homestar's request to be preserved in red Jell-O.
:That's just a similar [[sound effect]]. I don't think there's a connection, really. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

== It's Abort, Retry, Ignore, or Fail, when I state ==

That's supposed to be a reference to something on DOS/Command Prompt where you try to access a drive that's empty (like a floppy disk drive). --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 18:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:What are you talking about? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::He's talking about the Strong Badman comic Easter egg. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::[[First Time Here?|Okay, this time I'm totally gonna get it. Seriously you guys.]] Okay, so I go to my old computer with Win ME on it, and I'm in command prompt right now. I go a:\ and this shows up:

Not ready reading drive A
Abort, Retry, Fail?

Now, I remember I used to have a really old computer that had Win 3.1 on it, and it said, Abort, Retry, Ignore, Fail. [[wikipedia:Abort, Retry, Fail?|Here's the Wikipedia entry.]] --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 18:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

== Voice Effect ==

Is it just me, or did their voices under the jello seem to have the same effect applied as Horrible Painting's voice? Has this effect ever been used besides that? It may be worth mentioning.
[[User:75.111.216.18|75.111.216.18]] 21:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)Burninated
:yeah, it's not the jibblies effect, it's the zombies one. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:32, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:That's it...

::If you used Audacity to make such a voice effect, what would be the name of that effect anyway?--[[User:66.82.9.104|66.82.9.104]] 05:35, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

==Strong Sad's belly's ball sound==
that's three references. {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
:That's right, as is mention on [[Sound Effects]]. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 03:42, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:winter pool

Evil Egg — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:55:30 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Space station */

== How exactly are they freed? ==
Sooo, does the KOT poop them out? Is it safe to assume that? - SCCakes
:considering the color of the gunk on strong bad at the end, i say no. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's one of those things best left to the viewer's imagination. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'm fairly certain there's a reason the TBC and Strong BAd failed to explain what happened in detail....--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 20:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::::I just figured that he drank up the jello and they were left behind. I guessed that the 'sensation' that Strong Bad felt was the jello around him being sucked up. --{{User:GardenBoy/sig}} 01:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

== Death!??!?! ==

Is this the end of Pom Pom?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? -Alex H.
:Well, if Homestar escaped the [[Horrible Painting]] in [[Jibblies 2]], I'm sure Pom Pom can escape the vast emptiness of space. - [[User:OkayGraphics|OkayGraphics]] 14:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::Homestar also escaped the water cooler... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:36, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::And, in the most glaringly similar situation, Strong Mad came back from space in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|MLS]]; and before the end of the 'toon even — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 15:14, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

== Nebulon first times ==

Thisis the first time we actually see Nebulon in a toon or sbemail, right? -Ein Poltergeist (not a dumptruck)
:If you don't count when he was [[PBTC]], then yes. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 14:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::i've added a remark for this. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 21:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:::'Cept for his debut: [[Main Page 1]]. How's that count? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::::well, it's still his first appearance in a cartoon/sbemail, so i don't think we should worry about his Main Page appearance. at least not with how i worded the remark. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 21:10, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mention where Red Angelo comes from ==

Nobody has put this in yet, but, the Red Angelo and the other kids names commented on come from the urban legend of kids being named Orangejello and Lemonjello.

http://www.snopes.com/racial/language/names.asp

:I volunteer in a NBICU and I am sorry to say that there are actually people who have named their children this. [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 18:31, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::I know for a fact that I live about 10 miles away from Lemonjello and Orangejello. [[User:Kevin G. Dannerson|Kevin G. Dannerson]] 19:07, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:This is claimed as fact in the book Freakonomics, so I put it in with a reference. I think it's pretty clear as a reference to the event itself, though whether or not they actually got it from Freakonomics is uncertain. Keep in mind, though, it's a recent bestseller that sold three million copies, so it's a likely source. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

::This story has been around waaay longer than Freakonomics. I heard it when I was a kid in the 80's. The Freakonomics text is very unlikely to be the source; why would the Chaps brothers mention another very common urban legend (the headlights flashed at a gangster car) at the same time unless they were referring to common urban legends.

:::Good point. I entered that just before I read the Snopes story about headlights, which I'd never heard before. Makes more sense now; Freakonomics was probably passing it along without knowing whether it was true or not just like everyone else. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== Is this the first time the King of Town was actually USEFUL? ==

In Strong Bad's perspective, at least.-Thnikkafan
:This statement is purely speculation. Some would agree, while some would say he has been useful before.--{{User:GardenBoy/sig}} 01:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

==New Animations==

two notable points.
1) as someone put somewhere in Fun Facts, bubs' arms are animated like coach z's were in [[Trogday 08]]. BUT!! they were already animated like this in [[nightlife]] and [[Happy Dethemberween]].
2) we've never, NEVER seen strong bad's mouth do what it's doing at the end of the email.
somebody should fit these into the remarks
--[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 15:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
: all i know, is that whoever wrote that fun fact failed to use english grammar rules or something. I read it 4 or 5 times and only have a guess as to what it means -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 17:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::i see what you mean. i didn't read it carefully the first time. well, since i now have time, i guess i'll just handle this bit myself. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:27, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
actually, i move that we no longer bother with mentioning the new animation style for bubs' arms, if not including this sbemail, than from now on. --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:I agree. There's no point in mentioning it every time. --[[User:Foolster41|Foolster41]] 20:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== Space station ==

At first I thought the space station in the space background was a copy of the one from [[Wikipedia:2001: A Space Odyssey (film)|2001: A Space Odyssey]]. Then I looked up some images I realized that the original was a double wheel and not really that similar. The only striking feature they share is the "centrifuge wheel" design, which I imagine is not unique. Is there a station somewhere in sci-fi that looks more similar to this one? Something from Star Trek, maybe? (I browsed around [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Main_Page Memory Alpha], but nothing jumped out at me. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 15:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:That's exactly the point, the centrifuge design isn't unique. The Brothers Chaps could have seen the idea anydangwhere. Also, didn't it appear in [[theme song]]? [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 13:55, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

== Flavors ==

If we don't have a running gag about flavors, we should. (If it already exists, I couldn't find it.) I thought about just "Color Flavors" but we also have water described as Malinko- and Strong Bad-flavored water (in [[rough copy]]). We have orange- and black-flavored from [[Malloween Commercial]], Bubs's sno-cone flavors, and the drinks in [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]]. Any name suggestions? Anyone is welcome to take this ball and run with it; I ain't so gung-ho about creating articles at the moment. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:36, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:I dunno, we could have an [[Unusual Flavors]] or a [[Flavor Variations]] section for things like the flavored water and the orange-and-black marshmallows, respectively, but I don't think normal flavors like grape, cherry, green apple, etc. deserve a mention outside of the articles about the food/drink.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 19:22, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::[[User:E.L. Cool|E.L. Cool]] created [[Color flavored]]. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:41, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Interesting. Without reading this discussion I made [[Color flavored]]. Modestly Ok minds think very closely, right? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::::In my defense, I was talking about flavors, not-color flavors. Still, my bad. Sorry.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 19:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
== Highly Intellectual Property ==

Are there anymore instances of Strong Sad wearing the glasses he wears in this sbemail and [[rough copy]]. I'm wondering if they can be featured as a running gag.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 19:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:didn't he also wear those in [[business trip]]? --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think so. Those had legs, or whatever you call the part of the glasses that are held up by the ears. They might be a variation though. I haven't seen the DVD, but could someone who has tell me if they're the same glasses that are featured in [[Accent]]?--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 20:43, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== Gel-Arshie ==

the jello marshie has a visible brain. worth mentioning? ---[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 20:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:I think a better place to bring this up would be [[Gel-arshie|here]].--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 20:58, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== State-shaped gelatin blob on Strong Bad? ==

Does anyone else see that Strong Bad has a glob of gelatin on his pants toward the end of the e-mail in the shape of the state of Florida? Or am I crazy? Is this worth a mention?
:I don't think it's worth a mention. We eventually decided not to note the smiley face-shaped globs of whatsit adorning the Hornblower in [[KOT's VOQPCS!]]. The notability requires intent, you see. It's likely coincidence. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:46, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::Definitely not a coincidence. It looks unmistakably like florida. It seems to me TBC are playing the hidden shapes game now, as this isn't the first time they've done this, and i bet we could find many more stated or whatnot in other places where blotchiness appear. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:58, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I totally agree. When I first saw it, I tried to click on it. If you google "florida jello", the first result is a picture of hot girls wrestling in jello from the university of florida... you think that could be it? [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 05:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

== Inside reference is probably wrong. ==

It's probably not the first time this has happened. Anyways, I don't think that the comic was named for Real Mutants #87 (Obscure, I'm sure). I think it was named so because of the fact that it was email 1'''87'''. I'm sorry, obscure comic fanboys, but it's not true. Try again next time. - [[User:Eruption257|Eruption257]]

==Skateboarding==
I know he said it was imaginary, but wouldn't Strong Bad look cool skateboarding?[[User:Hooray4Trogdor95|Hooray4Trogdor95]] 02:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:You mean like [[looking old|with a helmet, knee and shoulder pads, and a tube of yogurt]] — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 11:35, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry, I to am so on the go that I forgot that picture:and drink yogurt from a tube[[User:Hooray4Trogdor95|Hooray4Trogdor95]] 12:12, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::That's right, Hooray4Wormdingler95, you drink everything from a tube — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 14:33, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::This is getting VERY forumy. --{{User:GardenBoy/sig}} 01:32, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

==Bubs Evolution==
Am I crazy, or is Bubs undergoing anatha evolution stage? He looks a little different... {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}

== Frog Eggs ==
<blockquote>
"Frog Eggs" refers to the science fiction novel ''[[Wikipedia:His Master's Voice (novel)|His Master's Voice]]'' by [[Wikipedia:Stanisław Lem|Stanisław Lem]], in which scientists try to decipher an alien message, but only manage to create a gelatin-like substance they call "Frog Eggs".
</blockquote>
The "Frog Eggs" reference seems to be too far-fetched for me. There's no real relation, apart from the two words. [[User:JudgeDeadd|JudgeDeadd]] 04:31, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::I dunno, I think it makes sense, since we're talking gelatinous things (such as jell-o) here that TBC may have intended that one. [[User:Cheesius|-- Cheesius]] 11:35, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I think the definitive proof for the fact is Strong Sad (the geeky character) says "I don't even get that one", telling us that the reference is obscure. I think the reference provided is obscure enough to fit what Gron Sad says. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 11:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::That's a ridicolous kind of "proof". There's absolutely no proof that this is what was intended, apart from the name ("frog eggs" is a common phrase!), gelatinuosity (real frog eggs are truly gelatinous, aren't they?), and notice that Strong Bad is saying "How we doing here, frog eggs?" - thus implying he was referring to Homestar and Strong Sad, not the stuff in the pool.
:::::The fact here isn't just about Frog Eggs, it's about the science fiction novel "His Master's Voice" by Stanislaw Lem, which is something that would generally be within Strong Sad's geekines. We're talking about Jell-o here, and unless anyone can come up with another 'frog eggs' linkage, and moreover one that fits the "I don't even" comment, I say the fact stays. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 13:29, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::Removed. Stuff it if you wish--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 16:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Re-added. I think we should give this maybe more than 12 hours of discussion before we make a decision. —[[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 16:55, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I doubt it's a reference. Your proof about even strong sad not getting it holds no water, as the point of making references is for people to get them and find them funny. If i was making a cartoon and I made a reference to some inside joke i have with my roommate, would that be funny to the rest of the world? no. Furthermore, SB was referring to SS and HR, not the jello. please burninate this fact. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Re-re-removed. A reference this flimsy and obsure should be assumed incorrect and moved to STUFF.--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 17:00, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Seven thumbs down on this "fact". {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:01, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::Mycroft, if you want it STUFFed, then STUFF it, but don't keep edit warring. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:02, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::We've been preferring talk page discussion to STUFF where possible lately, which is very much as it should be. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:03, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::TBC have made exceptionally obscure references before. In [[web comics]] this fact was STUFF'd and accepted. # "Web in Front" is a song by North Carolina-based indie rock band Archers of Loaf. Just because it's obscure doesn't mean it is any less true. &mdash[[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 17:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::But that was where clicking on "web in front" produces a sign saying "go loaf". Here there's no such connection. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Frog Eyes means Jell-o is referenced, and characters themselves refer to its obscurity. I see that at least as much a connection as Web in Front and the word Loaf — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 17:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::: I think that the connection between the two very plausible, since we are talking about a fairly famous science fiction novel, and there is a linkage between the word SB uses and the substance in that particular novel ''and'' in the pool. And I would use a counter example to DeFender's argument; Mystery Science Theater often pulled in the most obscure references. The point was not that everybody got it, but if only a few people did. In this case, "Frog Eggs" on the surface seems like a non-sequitur by Strong Bad, but if you know the novel, then you get the joke. It strikes me that TBC are the type of people that would love to put in that sort of multilayered reference in occasionally. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:Working on STUFF entry now--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 17:10, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'm a bit disappointed we've ended up once again at a vote rather than discussion, but I guess it's better than an edit war. :-S {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::: STUFFed. IMHO, highly questionable facts like this one should NOT be added to the article. They need to be here or in STUFF until accepted or rejected.--[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 17:16, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

== Your Funeral ==

Homestar and Strong Bad's voices are distorted similarly to how Strong Bad's was after he was preserved in the funeral episode. That it's a reference is strengthened by Homestar's request to be preserved in red Jell-O.
:That's just a similar [[sound effect]]. I don't think there's a connection, really. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

== It's Abort, Retry, Ignore, or Fail, when I state ==

That's supposed to be a reference to something on DOS/Command Prompt where you try to access a drive that's empty (like a floppy disk drive). --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 18:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:What are you talking about? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::He's talking about the Strong Badman comic Easter egg. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 18:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::[[First Time Here?|Okay, this time I'm totally gonna get it. Seriously you guys.]] Okay, so I go to my old computer with Win ME on it, and I'm in command prompt right now. I go a:\ and this shows up:

Not ready reading drive A
Abort, Retry, Fail?

Now, I remember I used to have a really old computer that had Win 3.1 on it, and it said, Abort, Retry, Ignore, Fail. [[wikipedia:Abort, Retry, Fail?|Here's the Wikipedia entry.]] --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 18:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

== Voice Effect ==

Is it just me, or did their voices under the jello seem to have the same effect applied as Horrible Painting's voice? Has this effect ever been used besides that? It may be worth mentioning.
[[User:75.111.216.18|75.111.216.18]] 21:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)Burninated
:yeah, it's not the jibblies effect, it's the zombies one. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:32, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:That's it...

::If you used Audacity to make such a voice effect, what would be the name of that effect anyway?--[[User:66.82.9.104|66.82.9.104]] 05:35, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

==Strong Sad's belly's ball sound==
that's three references. {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
:That's right, as is mention on [[Sound Effects]]. — [[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 03:42, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Strong Mad

Evil Egg — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:29:48 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Andre the Giant */

{{featuredarticle}}
== Best Thing appearance ==

"Also, his dimensions from the side seem to be somewhat rectangular, as seen in an easter egg from best thing."

Strong Mad doesn't appear in Best Thing. I think whoever posted this "fact" named the wrong toon. [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]]

== Dream Theater Reference ==

The title of the web page, "Light fuse get away" is the name of a song by the band Dream Theater. We should have some format for "external references" in the character videos. Actually, I think I will edit the "Character Videos" page right now.

"Light fuse, get away" is just a typical instruction on a fireworks box. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 17:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

And technically, it's called "Light Fuse AND Get Away". [[Homsar7]]

== how much is ==

one million pounds? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 09:44, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
:It's slightly less than one-million-two pounds! [[boring (really)|I remember learning that in school!]] {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:50, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
1 000 000 lbs = 453 592.4 kg (assuming all the figures in the original number are [[Wikipedia:Significant figures|significant]]) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:45, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
:Heh... sorry for my smart-alec response above. :) It was too good an opportunity for a random HSR reference to pass up. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:43, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Nah, don't worry about, i can use a joke hear and there sometimes.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 00:28, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Says on the article page that he's 900 Pounds.Get a grip.--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 23:17, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:"Get a grip"? Gir007, this conversation occured two months ago, and has already been answered. Why did you bring this up again, and, more importantly, why did you tell Nikolce Kocovski to "get a grip"? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 23:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Glasses? ==

should it be mentioned that Strong Mad apparently needs glasses?
Evidence: rampage, Processing
:Go for it. You might mention that he uses them for reading. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:51, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

== Andre the Giant ==

Is it worth pointing out that Strong Mad's voice is an impression of the late Andre the Giant? No-one else here seems to have noticed this.
:I don't remember anybody in The Princess Bride saying "GET IN MAH BELLY!". But seriously, I don't think they sound alike.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:21, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
::There is the obvious connection between [[:Image:SM_has_a_Posse.PNG|Strong Mad has a Posse]] and [[Wikipedia:André_the_Giant_Has_a_Posse|André_the_Giant_Has_a_Posse]], but I don't think their voices are that similar. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:27, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

:::That's really odd that you would say that. I wouldn't call it a *good* impression, or even a *consistent* one (because Andre didn't always sound like that, but an impression it certainly is. Maybe the Brothers would be the ones to ask about that, because I'm quite certain that that is what they intended, and specifically, a scene to watch in the movie you mention, Loafing, is the scene in which Andre is lit on fire in the black cloak, shouting: "I am the Dread Pirate Roberts. . . etc." Watch it, you'll see what I mean.

:I don't think Strong Mad's nearly articulate enough to be particularly similar to Andre the Giant. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 19:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

== Seemed worth noting ==

This doesn't really belong in the entry, but I think it's worthwhile to note that although there's evidence that Strong Mad bullies Strong Sad, on the few occaisions we've seen them left to their own devices together, they don't seem to get along poorly at all. In light of this, it seems likely that, rather than Strong Mad disliking Strong Sad, he just gets 'roped into' bullying him the same way he often gets dragged into Strong Bad's antics. [[User:Devilot|Devilot]] 11:37, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I concur.

Talk:Cool Things

Evil Egg — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:17:52 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Dangeresque glasses */

{{featuredarticle}}
==Picture==
Is that picture okay? --[[User:Dinoshaur|Dinoshaur]] 09:58, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Yup. S'fine. [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]] 10:34, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I replaced it with a more detailed image of the assembled band because I think fans will favor a picture with four main characters as opposed to a "cool tapes" wall. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 10:38, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I was thinking of getting a screen from the SWF. file but it's got a chunk out of Strong Mad's arm. I've only started using the Print Screen thing. --[[User:Dinoshaur|Dinoshaur]] 10:41, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Haha... down with the people... I can't believe I didn't notice that!

==Stop It!==
And to whichever guest-styling who keeps changing my <nowiki>''s to ==s and ===s to 's etc</nowiki>, please stop it. The way at is NOW is how it is across the wiki.

==Voice on the TV==
While it's prolly not meant to be him, the voice on the TV sounds a lot like 1-Up. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:38, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, you're kinda right... --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 14:28, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Maybe it's because they are played by the same voice actor who has to juggle dozens of voices? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

Well, true, but it still does have a little bit of a "1-Up" to it. --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 01:54, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I just noticed that he is saying (almost) the SAME THING as in Privilages when the cheat is watching tv. IF this isn't mentioned already, could someone look it up to see if they are references? thanks a million!--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:32, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Amps==
The article seems to imply that the Amps say something different than those in [[different town]], but they don't. Both say 'Marzipan' in the Marshall style--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 14:05, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Tabs==
I realize that this is a stretch, and I don't want to see this be declined in stuff, but does anyone think that the reasons that the Brother Chaps made the tape at the end yellow is so that the viewers couldn't use the tab buttons to find the easter egg? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 14:40, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Nah. The wall was yellow, the paint was yellow, the Dripping Madness was yellow... It was a predominant theme. The original occurance of 'Cool Tapes' was on a yellow wall, so when Cool Tapes released their songs, they put it on a yellow tape. And anyways, it's not like the Easter eggs in this one were hard to find. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:But is the exact right shade of yellow... and they could have used red, too but they chose yella
:Yella is a funnier color than red.

== Yellow paint screen wipe transition ==

I think that the yellow paint screen transition is remicient of the old Batman TV shows and similar spoofs. It's like Homestar was being portrayed as the cool-shades-with-dripping-yellow-paint-man super hero for a brief moment in this toon. [[User:VL-Tone|VL-Tone]] 17:00, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

They've used that sort of transition various other times on the site though. --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

Yes, and it was noted as a nod to Batman when it happened before. --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 16:51, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I think it's too vague to be considered an out-and-out reference. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:08, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Permission? ==
How come when I type <nowiki>http://www.homestarrunner.com/coolthings.swf</nowiki> in the Flash Decomplier, an error message always pops up and says something like: "You might not have permission to use this network resource. The above directory name is invalid." Why does it do this? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 17:33, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Because you need to save the Flash file, and then open it from your computer locally. [[User:141.157.252.130|141.157.252.130]] 19:00, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Snack Food==

I'm sure it's not a reference, but the name Dripping Yellow Madness made me think of this [http://www.lincolnsnacks.com/zonkers/index_on.asp snack]. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:31, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Cool Shades ==

To me, they look like Dangeresque Too's (Homestar's) glasses, only covered in yellow paint. --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 23:28, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)
: We have that on [[STUFF]], but it's not a popular fact due to the fact that there have been other glasses on the site that have the same shape but a different design. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:46, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Marzipan's teeth? ==
In the article, it says that "this is the first time Marzipan's teeth are shown." When does she show them? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 00:23, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:When she smiles sheepishly near the very end. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:25, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I could be mistaken, but in PBTC video that the cheat did for marzipan, i think her teeth show. But I'm sure that doesnt count, since it's not the real Marzipan.
''Posted by Martin F.''

==Meow!==

Is it "kiddie" or "kitty"? [http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/sy/song88.html This] site says "kitty". [http://www.lyricsdepot.com/sonic_youth/kool-thing.html This] site says "kiddie". Just a quick google seems to split it 50-50. Anyone know for sure? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:37, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

The first one is the right one. The Sonic Youth website never fails. Always with the right lyrics.

==Peter Threadbare==

I have a feeling the book Marzipan is reading at the beginning of the toon is alluding to something, but I'm not sur.e Does anyone have any ideas? Peter Threadbare does sound like something, but I can't
quite put my finger on it...

Google have almost nothing. [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Peter+Threadbare%22&hl=en&lr=&filter=0 this search] give one result, but not for the writer's full name. [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Peter+Threadbare&btnG=Search this] isn't much better. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 13:37, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I found this in Nathaniel Hawthorne's "Peter Goldthwaite's Treasure". I don't know if it's the reference, but: "...and threadbare Peter Goldthwaite. The fact is, Mr. Brown, you must find another site for your brick block....". In general, it sounds like a take on Charles Dickens' titles, like "Barnaby Rugde" or "Edwin Drood". {{User: What's her face}} 22:54, 21 Aug 2005

Might be a reference to the character Bobbin Threadbare from the LucasArts computer game LOOM. But I dunno if TBC ever played those games. - Octan

==Anyone got an mp3?==

Does anyone have an mp3 file of that song? --[[User:11wowirocksomuch11|11wowirocksomuch11]]

:Ask and you shall receive! Check out QotW. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:52, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Suddenly to the left==
I quite don't get that goof about Homestar suddenly standing to the left of the stand in the next wide shot. I can't see the difference.-[[User:Gordon 584|'''^Gordon^''']]
:He goes to return the glasses, and it zooms in to the bag of grapes, and when it zooms out again, he is standing a little off to the left. ''Posted by Martin F.''
::Look at the word ''Under'' in "Under Old Management". At first, Homestar covers the D-E-R. Then, all of the sudden, he's covering the U-N-D. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:01, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==

Hey, can somebody get a screenshot of Marzipan grinning with her teeth? Thanks! - [[User:Brittany|Brittany]]

[[Image:grinning marzipan.png|90px|none]]
Thanks to [[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]] for uploading this.

You're wlecome! I was just going to post that on here!! If you wanna know how to make a screenshot, go [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki_talk:FAQ#How_do_you_make_a_snapshot.3F here] --{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 02:07, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for that! Most people are just rude, I mean, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all, or do it yourself, you know? Anyway, thanks! - [[User:Brittany|Brittany]]

''You're'' Welcome! --{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 16:13, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Homestar Sawyer ===
{{stufffact|Homestar Runner letting Strong Sad think a "date with a wall" would be fun is a reference to The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain, in which Tom lets other children think that painting a fence is fun because he doesn't want to do it.}}
{{stuffverdict|02:48, 20 March 2006 (UTC)|15:26, 20 March 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined|11|0|Cool Things}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Pet the Kitty ===
{{stufffact|The title of the page, "Sittin' with a kitty...", is a reference to the Sonic Youth song "Kool Thing," which contains the lyric "sittin' with a kitty."}}
{{stuffverdict|14:52, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)|06:29, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|22|1|Cool Things}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Hoppity Frog of Lesser Value ===
{{stufffact|Bubs's comment on "lesser or much lesser value" is a reference to "equal or lesser value" in [[part-time job]].}}
{{stuffverdict|02:12, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)|06:29, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|20|1|Cool Things}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Strong Sad paints Marzipan's House? ===
{{stufffact|The exterior of Marzipan's House was blue the only other time it appeared, in 3 Times Halloween Funjob. Now it's yellow. A reasonable explanation might be that Strong Sad, having no more detailed information than "a wall," painted the ''outside'' wall.}}
{{stuffverdict|01:21, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)|06:29, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|17|4|Cool Things}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== The non-dripping yella shades===
{{stufffact|When Homestar is returning the yella shades at the concession stand, the paint suddenly stops dripping between the close-up and the wide shot.}}
{{stuffverdict|17:57, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)|06:29, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)|revised and then unanimously accepted|18|0|Cool Things}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Cool, Cool Glasses ===
{{stufffact|Homestar's shades are the same style sunglasses he wore in [[dangeresque 3]].}}
{{stuffverdict|14:14, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)|06:29, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)|declined but was replaced by an article ([[Homestar's Shades]])|16|13|Cool Things}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Introducing silhouettes ===
{{stufffact|The members of Cool Tapes being silhoutted in different colors while moving around the screen greatly resembles [[Intro 2]].}}
{{stuffverdict|14:29, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)|06:29, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|17|2|Cool Things}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Button Dance ===
{{stufffact|The original button to this toon on the main page read "hey, a new toon!!"}}
{{stuffverdict|13:45, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)|13:34, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)|declined in a landslide|20|1|Cool Things}}

== The Cheats Drummin' ==

As the Cool Tapes song is finishing, you hear the crash symbol being hit, and yet if you look the Cheat isn't hitting any part of the drumset anymore.
:Adding that fact just caused people to speculate that the bag of four grapes made the cymbal sound. That speculation, I thought, canceled out the fact, and it disappeared into nothingness. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:50, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Paint Drips ==

When the paint drips off of Homestar's glasses, how can it drip at that level, dissapear, and not have him eat it? - [[User:Brittany|Brittany]]
:Maybe he ''does'' eat it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:19, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Why does he ''appear'' to eat it when his mouth is open, but then not when his mouth is closed? Wouldn't his underbite still catch the paint? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:21, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== More Dripping Yellow Madness ==

Anyone else catch that when Homestar's mouth is closed the paint drip vanishes completely halfway down his 'chin'? [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
:This is kinda similar to the thread immediately above, but I think it would be an insane amount of work for them to try and do it any other way. In the commentary of [[lunch special]], Mike remarks how Matt went above and beyond in making the garden hose water so detailed, and how he probably wouldn't have put forth nearly so much effort animating it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:52, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Uh, all I was trying to ask is; is this note worthy as a goof or is it too easily noticable. But thank you for the, uh, explanation. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]
:And all I was trying to say is, no, it's not a goof, because to say that it was would be to hold them to an impossible standard. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:29, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

That's all I needed to hear. [[User:The Pardack|The Pardack]]

== Homestar ==
Homestar saying "What kind of...music do you play?" is a reference to Puppet Homestar and Little Girl. (The pause and question) [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 14:09, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Homestar's arms==
If you ask me, this toon proves that Homestar is telepathic. If he had invisible arms, it would've had paint on them when he took the Cool Shades out of the can of paint. [[User:Imwithcrazy|Imwithcrazy]]

== Dangeresque glasses ==

Can anyone tell me why the glasses from the Dangeresque series got covered in the yellow paint? {{User:The 386/sig}}
:Because Homestar buys a pair of generic cool shades and three tins of yella paint from Bubs, who slips them into paint-can number 2, thus liberally coating them in yella paint. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 19:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

== Tennis ==

I think references to tennis players should be a running gag, since this is the third time TBC have done so in toons (the first being Homestar dressing up as John McEnroe in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], and the second being Coach Z's voice yelling out "Bjorn Borg" in [[Sample of Style]] on the DVD). --Bluelite

== A Sequel Maybe? ==

This is just a minor thing, but I don't think that Strong Bad is watching the same show The Cheat was watching, but rather some sort of sequel. The guy says "...the same truck that tried to kill my dad." This strikes me as a jab at horror movie sequels which simply go down a generation and bring the monster back. [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 03:48, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:Thats what I thought too. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 17:03, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

== "Homesar" ==

Is it me, or does it sound like Strong Sad says "Homesar" when he first starts talking to Homestar? - [[User:Almo|Almo]]
:Doesn't to me. That wouldn't make any sense anyway. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:34, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::Ah, oh well. I could have sworn he didn't pronounce the "t." Thanks for answering. - [[User:Almo|Almo]]

== Cleanup May 2006 ==

This article becomes a FA in less than 4 hours, and I don't know how much time I have to work on it. Thus, I would appreciate it if the community polished this article to make it a perfect example of what any toon article should look like. Some ideas:

{{done}} Reword fun facts as necessary. 
{{done}} Put fun facts in the same order as they happen in the toon. 
{{done}} Check up on the transcript. Perhaps perfect its any formatting, punctuation, etc.

Thanks.

—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:34, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
:I'll chip in {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 20:51, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

==remark?==

should it be noted that there was no was to know which can was can #2?

Talk:slumber party

Evil Egg — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:35:29 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Just saying... */

== Who's Gary? ==

I can't help but wonder... who's Gary? I can only hope that his existence will be explained in the next email. Maybe I wasn't paying attention to the last email... --[[User:Chiron|Chiron]] 11:32, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Maybe a reference to Limozeen Gary? [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 11:49, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
::I was thinking it was [[Gary Palaroncini]] as well, with all the [[Limozeen]] and [[sloshy]] appearances as of late. [[User:jrgilby|jrgilby]]
:::I doubt it's reference to anything. It's just a random guy, a nobody. That's how I interpret it. Especially as it's not really stated anywhere why Strong Bad would be expecting an e-mail from Limozeen. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 16:35, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I was just going to say this would be a reference to a character if anything from Spongebob, not an episode. (Gary is a snail). But since Gary is a common name this seems a very tenuous link at best. I removed that line. --[[User:Foolster41|Foolster41]] 18:10, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:I assume when TBC were planning this email, Matt/Mike just started singing a random song about Gary and they decided to put it in. It could have very easily been Larry, Paul, Dan, Fred, George, Tom, Dick or Harry. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:30, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
::::There was an episode of Spongebob where he and Gary were separated somehow and Spongebob missed him alot. [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 20:30, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Did anyone else notice that Thomas O from NY spells TONY? [[User:Meltingemail]] 23:07 3 October 2007

== Coulomb's law? ==

I don't think "Coolguy's Law" is a direct reference to Coulomb's law, even if it was mentioned in "4 branches". "Coolguy's Law" is a throwback to "Prof. Tor Coolguy" from the Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon. The fact that "Coolguy" sounds like "Coulomb" is just a coincidence. Not to mention there's no similarity whatsoever between the two actual equations, nor any compelling reason to write out and explain Coulomb's law in this article instead of just linking to it.
:Amen, amen, a thousand times amen -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 15:04, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
::I agree as well. Besides, Coulomb's law is an inverse square law anyway, not an inverse proportional law. --[[User:Crazyswordsman|Crazyswordsman]] 15:32, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I disagree, i think it IS a reference. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:46, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:I agree, this is NOT a reference. Where is STUFF when you need it.-[[User:Racerx is Alive|racerx_is_alive]]

:OK DeFender, some of us have actually taken Physics courses (not to mention very basic mathematics) and
:realize that Coulomb's law does not actually have an inverse relationship - it is an inverse square law. Come now.
:Do you have any basis for making the claim other than the distant phonetic similarity?
:It's gone. [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 17:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with defender, i thought of coulomb's law before i even remembered strong bad is in jail, it sounds completely the same, and i don't think tbc would go as so far to make the equations or whatever similar, but i don't really know much about physics and such considering i'm kinda young. --{{User:Kanjiro/sig}} 02:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Inverse square and inverse proprotionality are rather different. I'd say that any ref to Coloumb's Law would be weak. I'm not so sure it's a reference to Tor Coolguy, but it's a better chance than Coloumb. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:28, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
::::I doubt that any joke would be made that would explictly require the viewer to be aware that Coulomb's Law is an inverse square. Why would they specifically refer to Tor Coolguy? Because they're formulating a mathematical Law and they have a name that works as a parody of Coulomb. To my eyes, it's a clear reference to both. [[User:Johnny Ord'nary|Johnny Ord'nary]] 12:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

:DeFender1031, why did you say "We don't really do this", when I was trying to list the formula? Makes you seem like a bit of a knob, seeing as someone put the same formula in, in a different place. But hey, whatever wikimaster.
::Anonny, it's not acceptable for you to call people names (as in your edit summary) and be rude to people like this. If you have an issue with DeFender, take it up with him politely. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

== Text-clearing ==

Is it just me or is the animation for Strong Bad clearing the text on his computer different in this e-mail? I would check another one, but I don't have time. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 11:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Still looks like the same fwoosh-up to me. {{User:Punching Kittens/sig}} 12:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:It does look like video-games -> food clears to the upper-left corner rather than going straight up. Could someone with a decompiler frame-by-frame it? [[User:61.48.103.184|61.48.103.184]] 12:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
::I thought the same thing when I was watching it. If you frame by frame it though it's just scrolling off the screen in the normal way. Must the the shape of the text on the screen that makes the illusion. [[User:64.198.255.1|64.198.255.1]] 15:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

== Slumber Party Dance ==

Can anyone make out what Homestar is singing? It's incoherent to me, but he's definitely not ''just'' saying "Party! Slumber Party!" as the transcript <strike>currently reads</strike>. [[User:64.198.255.1|64.198.255.1]] 16:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:He most certainly is just saying that actually. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
::He certainly says that, he most certainly does not say '''just''' that. [[User:64.198.255.1|64.198.255.1]] 17:38, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
::That's basically what he's saying, but after "Party! Slumber party!" he says something noticeably different. I can't make out one word, but he sings "Listen to some something! At my slumber party!" Despite my attempts to understand that one word where he sings "Listen to some..." I can't make it out.
:::Nevermind, this is sort of moot now, someone has updated the transcript...[[User:64.198.255.1|64.198.255.1]] 17:42, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

==This is my email!!==

I sent this email in! I can't believe it got answered! --[[User:ThomasO|ThomasO]] 16:18, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:That's really cool, way to go! So UNO invited you to a party, huh? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Oh no. There was a "slumber party" in the dorm lounge, and the only activity was a game of Uno. After one game everyone was bored and the "party" was over. --[[User:ThomasO|ThomasO]] 16:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Ah, i see... they need to get more interesting games... like [[wikipedia:Filthy Rich (game)|filthy rich]], hedbanz, [[Wikipedia:Ticket to Ride (board game)|ticket to ride]], [[Wikipedia:Guillotine (game)|guillotine]], things nobody's ever heard of... (Those are all fun games) I'm actually gonna be playing filthy rich with my friends tonight... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:31, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
In case any of you don't believe me, I have the original email still saved, which I just took a screenshot of. Hmm, I just noticed that they edited out "at a nearby dorm".
[http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e270/NintendoExpert89/Picture4.png Here]
--[[User:ThomasO|ThomasO]] 16:41, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Welcome to the club Thomas O. How is that girl's night out party kit treating you ;) [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 16:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

::That's awesome, ThomasO — congrats! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Congrats ThomasO. I wish I had my email answered by Strong Bad. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 20:48, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Me too. Heck, I've emailed Strong Bad SEVERAL TIMES and STILL NO ANSWER. CAPITALZ. {{User:Neox/sig}}
:::::Good to know they'll edit it a bit, now I don't have to be paranoid about making sure everything's completely good-sounding and relevant :)
In response to you posting a pic of the email, i believed it beforehand... it WAS signed "ThomasO"... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
If any of you are interested, I wrote a story describing the events of that "slumber party" on my user page. --[[User:ThomasO|ThomasO]] 00:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

== Load Bearer ==

In traditional home construction, a load-bearing wall is one which is part of the basic structure of the house, and the studs in it support the roof. Normally it's the wall directly below the peak of the roof. Those studs, and therefore that wall, bear the load of the roof beam. This is opposed to a non-load-bearing wall, whose studs do not support any weight and simply divide the floor into rooms. Destroying a non-load-bearing wall won't affect the structural intecrity of a house; destroying a load-bearing wall can cause the roof to collapse. (Note that in steel buildings a steel beam is supported on either side and there is no need for a load-bearing wall, as the steel is stronger and does not require mid-beam support as wood does. However, homes built this way are more expensive.)

Now, is that what they're playing? Looking for a wall to destroy that bears the roof load? I didn't want to go and change the fact right off, as it at present also makes sense. Thought it merited discussion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

== Stops abruptly ==

Um...this e-mail will just stop abruptly in the middle and not go on, around the part about Coolguy's Law. I've even tried using a seek bar, but it won't even go past that part. I've cleared my cache, refreshed, viewed the flash file, EVERYTHING I know. Help! --{{User:Color Printer/sig}} 22:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

:I haven't encountered that issue. Do you have other programs running which m ight be using up proccesing speed? I'd try clearing the cache and all that again, a full reboot, open just a browser, and try it then. Another question: does the Flash load completely? I mean, if you open it in Firefox with the Greasemonkey, does the bar fill completely, or does it not download the whole file? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:11, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
::It looks like it fully loads. When it stops, the seek bar isn't at the end, it's where it should be. Lemme try going to IE. --{{User:Color Printer/sig}} 22:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
::Huh, it works in IE. Weird. Let me try giving the Greasemonkey thing the bed axe and see if it works. --{{User:Color Printer/sig}} 22:42, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
::Ugh. Still stopping. I'll try rebooting it later, I have homework to do. --{{User:Color Printer/sig}} 22:43, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, it works now. Don't know how, though. --{{User:Color Printer/sig}} 01:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

== Unbelievable ==

I can't believe none of you guys put up the fact that Homestar can't play Clapping Party WITHOUT ARMS! User:WeirdAl 22:09, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

PS:I saw Weird Al a second time in Aug!!!

:He can't carry around a bag of four grapes without arms either. Nor can he carry a fondue set. Nor can he wrap a Deep Impact DVD and bring it to a party. He can't do any of these things without arms, can he? Well, turns out he in fact can. We don't know how really. But he can. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:14, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

::Altough, you have to admit, it is pretty ironic that the only game he can play is one about clapping your hands. Still, not relevant enough to make a mention.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 01:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Really? You don't think this is a reference to non-visible arms?[[User:65.101.86.13|65.101.86.13]] 03:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Well, any use of the non-arms can be a reference to that. The original poster supposed that he could not do that because he had no arms. Quite a different question. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:41, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

:::::But obviously playing "clapping party" without arms is a lot more amusing and ironic than picking up a bag of grapes. Maybe it's not worth a mention, but it's still a valid point and a clever choice of game, so no need to rag on the OP.
:::FWIW i think it maaay deserve a mention, but that comes very very close to explaining the joke

== ESRB ==

There's some kinda time vortex going on. Retro games with the very modern concept of being ''rated''.
:I disagree. Many retro-style games are being made nowadays for old systems (at one point there was even going to be a Homestar 2600 game) and, so far as I know, they are given ratings. Even re-releases of old pre-rating titles are rated. {{User:Zoom/sig}} 02:46, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

:Do we even know Strong Bad's finds are retro games? There may be another console besides Homestar's Super Funmachine or whatever he's playing. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 12:31, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

::I agree with Evil Egg. In the Easter Egg, the Blistergeist guy, the blood, and the blisters were much more hi-def than the hands. {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}

== Rhythm Action Games ==

Anyone else think "Clapping Party" is a reference to games like DDR and Guitar Hero? They both share the idea of not using the traditional controller. [[User:76.78.50.55|76.78.50.55]] 02:39, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:Not familiar with DDR, but Guitar Hero is so much more complex it's silly. You cannot compare the two. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
::By DDR I believe he's refrring to [[wikipedia:Dance Dance Revolution|Dance Dance Revolution]].
:::Ok. In both thess games, temporal accuracy is required. In Clapping Party you need clap 3 times. That's not a comparison to a game requiring rhythmic presicion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Note also that there's nothing to indicate that Homestar isn't using a traditional controller, as all we see is a black cord leading to where he's sitting. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::i think it's donkey konga referance. aguy

::::::I was also thinking Donkey Konga (I think that's the right spelling) - it has a clapping element to it. Another possibility, though less likely, is a reference to the emerging market in motion-capture games - the PS2 and Xbox 360 already have camera-enabled games that track your movements, and the PS3 is about to see a peripheral that enables more advanced camera gaming (the "Eye"). A simple game based on this concept could simply require players to do really simple movements like clapping their hands, without any other sort of plot. (Side note: I can't decide if this idea would have any merit or not, considering the ongoing running gag about Homestar's [[Lack of visible arms]].)

::::::Keep in mind also that TBC deliberately make their Easter-egg games INCREDIBLY simple. Clapping Party is just as likely to be an inside reference to their much older Flash games as it is to anything in the real world. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::that is how u spell it. aguy

== Not made fun of New Paper ==

Should we maybe mention that this is the first occasion since New Papes's [[the paper|introduction]] that SB hasn't made fun of it? {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 03:56, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, that was the [[pizza joint|last email]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
::Ohhh...right, right...My bad...I swear, one of these days I'll do something right! {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 19:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, I thought that [[Bike Thief]] was the first time Strong Bad didn't insult the new paper.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 19:57, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
::No, he expressed displeasure at its attempting to emulate The Real Paper. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:00, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, but that's not a direct insult.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 20:02, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Let's just say that last e-mail was the first time for the New Paper to come down with no notice by any of the characters, and nothing is said at it. {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}
:::::Yeah and then next time we can say that two emails ago was the first time that no one said anything about it! and then the one after that we can say it was three emails ago! A brilliant addition to each page. -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 14:22, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::Wow man, could you be just a little bit more of a jerk about it? I don't think you quite made yourself clear.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 00:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Hey, Jdhannan, I didn't mean to put it on the page. I just meant to wrap up the discussion as [[pizza joint]] being the first e-mail for New Paper to come down with no notice. {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}

== Dancing Homestar ==

Hey, I'm just curious, how many times does a joke have to be done to be considered a running gag. Because between this, Pizza Joint, and the orginal headless version one on mile, Homestar's dance has been done three times.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 20:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:I would think we should wait until it makes another normal appearance that can be seen through normal viewing and/or clicking. In other words, the first one in mile shouldn't exactly count as a full fledged appearance.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 22:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
::I thought as much. Just felt like checking.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 00:26, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
== Siblings? ==

When Homestar says that "we're only allowed to play Clapping Party", it sounded as though he was referring to him and his siblings, perhaps? {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}
:I'm pretty sure he was talking about Strong Bad and himself.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 21:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
::<s>When you go to a slumber party, you tell your friends that the games are off-limits to your brothers and sisters, not your guests. Your parents can't tell them what to do, and you know your dad is just going to play with them later.</s> {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}
:Riiiight... its not your friends' house, so they can do whatever they like? It definitely means that SB wasn't allowed to play it, and thus his friends wouldn't be allowed to either. Assuming the game was too violent, watching it wouldn't be any less 'damaging' than playing it. Also, (theoretically) SB may have OLDER siblings that would be allowed to play it. -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 14:19, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
::It's just the way Homestar said it, it didn't sound like to me that he was referring to Strong Bad, but the rest of his family! {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}
:::Okay, to tie up loose ends, if Homestar was an only child, he would have said "'''I'm''' only allowed to play Clapping Party. But if he had siblings, he would have said "'''We're''' only allowed to play Clapping Party." Do you see where I'm going with this? {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}

== bogus mathematical theorems ==

I don't know about the above-mentioned Coulomb's law, but this is the third appearance of Strong Bad's bogus mathematical theorems. Is it time for them to get their own page?--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 21:56, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:I was wondering how often something has to be mentioned to get it's own page too. I say yes, but that's just my opinion.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 21:59, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
::I'd say it should be made. I think the rule of thumb is three appearances. And it's not like this is the very last quasimathematical pseudotheory Strong Bad's ever going to make. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 15:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I definitely think this should get its own page — Strong Bad even acknowledges it as a legitimate running gag in [[property of ones]]. I'll get the page started at [[Bogus Mathematical Theorems]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:10, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

== Fonts ==

The words "Typical Slumber Party Fare" are written in either Huxtable or Hurry Up.

== Strong Sad's arm? ==

Is it ever explained exactly why his arm is in a sling? [[User:Thrashmeister|Thrashmeister]] 02:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Bad explains it by saying "let me relieve you of that located shoulder", and don't forget that he said "you can trash the place '''and dislocate all the younger siblings shoulders you want'''. As Strong Sad is the youngest of the Brothers Strong, and that he is bullied often, it is more than likely that he got his arm dislocated. {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}
:Ah, that makes sense. I guess I missed that. Well, I didn't. I just didn't comprehend it in relation to the sling. Thanks! [[User:Thrashmeister|Thrashmeister]] 02:43, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
::No prob. {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}

== tilted pixels ==

''"The pixels in the hands during Clapping Party are tilted"'' What the heck does this mean? -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 14:07, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:Means [[:Image:Clapping_Party.png|this]]. The pixels in the hand are diagonal, unlike they would appear on a real screen. However, tilted and off-placed pixels (as well as LED-fields and such) are very common with TBC (whether it's style or just overall laziness), and as such this remark is pretty redundant. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 14:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

== Inversely vs. Directly Proportional ==
This needs some addressing here on the talk page, since people are perpetually changing this back and forth. Strong Bad is making the point that "the popularity of the host is inversely proportional to the amount of fun you can have at their house." This is not a goof! It ''is'' inversely proportional! Thus he can go to Homestar's house (because Homestar is NOT popular), and do fun things like "tear that place apart" (by playing games like "Find The Load-Bearer" and "Bed Axe") because, after all, it's "not like you're ever going back there again" -- why ''would'' you ever go back to an unpopular person's house? Furthermore, he talks about playing video games that "unpopular kids' dads" have stashed away. Like "Blood Bleeder" (whoa, does ''that'' one sound awesome!). The implication is that popular kids' dads are not as likely to have such "fun" video games. '''Inversely proportional''' is correct. Are we all agreed?? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 15:16, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:To dumb it down, if it's inversely proportional, it means: the more popular the host, the less fun you'll have at their house. If it's directly proportional, it means: the more popular the host, the more fun you'll have at their house. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I see what you're saying. [[user:haldo]]

== Tured a new leaf? ==

At the end of the email, strong sad is all, "how do you know this?" Don't you agree that this is WAY more outgoing than the usual strong sad? [user:haldo][[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 21:13, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
:Already added to [[Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship]].--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 00:04, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
So, shouldn't there be an Easter Egg to explain how Strong Bad DOES know this? I'd assume that he attended a slumber party where another partygoer was thus attired, or where SB himself was thusly attired. But it seems there should be a visual example.
Another thought: is there a page for tighty whities? [user:guest] 3 October 2007
:We have a page on [[Underwear]], if not specifically that style... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
:Wasn't there a pants-off party where Strong Bad was the only one who wears any pants? [[User:Awexome|Awexome]] 04:20, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
::Sort of. The e-mail you're thinking of is [[senior prom]]. Strong Bad decides to crash the prom and rigs a button to remove everyone's pants. He only realizes that he is the only one that ever wears pants when The Cheat tells him after he pushes the button. {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}

== Donkey Konga ==

Homestar's Clapping Party game made me think of the game [[Wikipedia:Donky Konga|Donkey Konga]]. Could this be a reference, or is it too irrelevant (since in the game, you often use bongos). {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:02, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
:I noticed that too. I wonder... {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 00:10, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
:Good cath, but I don't think it's close enough to make it off the talk page. Sorry.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 00:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
actually dk konga is mention'd above

== Coolguy's Law Inconsistency? ==

I {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=slumber_party&curid=37978&diff=503982&oldid=503981 removed}} the following remark from the article:
<blockquote>
The formula for Coolguy's Law does not match the theorem, in that it is a statement of equality, not proportionality. For the popularity of the host to be inversely proportional to the amount of fun you can have at their house, the right-hand side of the equation should be multiplied by some unspecified constant <math>k</math>.
</blockquote>
If two things are equal, they're also proportional (with a constant <math>k=1</math>). So, Strong Bad's statement doesn't contradict the formula, but the formula is more specific. Maybe this is notable, but I didn't think so, in part because the fact is worded as if the slight difference is an error. Anyways, I'm posting here in case people disagree with me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

With two unstandardized units of measure such as "popularity" and "house fun," you can pretty much arbitrarily define the starting point and ratio for either such that the already insignificant constant is completely unneeded. Could be that the the measure of "house fun" is so specific-purposed that it is defined AROUND popularity based on this formula. So I agree that it certainly isn't a goof. And as a remark, it takes too much time to explain to be worth mentioning. Still, it would have been a nice tip of the hat to nerds if the brothers hit us up with a little '∝' action. [[User:65.11.113.31|65.11.113.31]] 22:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Trey56: "If two things are equal, they are also proportional." This is true, but it does not make a *statement of proportionality* the same as a *statement of equality*, and shame on your math teacher for allowing you to think that. It would be like saying 3 <= 5 means the same thing as 3 < 5, just because they are both correct for the same reason. What was written on the chalk board was not Coolguy's Law as stated. --[[User:76.28.232.189|76.28.232.189]] 16:07, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

65.11.113.31: While the definitions of Popularity and House Fun are unclear, they clearly *aren't* defined as themselves multiplied by some arbitrary constant. This is simple high school math, and TBC dropped the ball on it. It's remarkable, or a goof. --[[User:76.28.232.189|76.28.232.189]] 16:07, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== the bet ==

Can we apply Coolguy's law to Strong Bad and The King of Town's sleepover in [[the bet]]? It looked like Strong Bad had fun at the end of the party, which would render Coolguy's Law as true! {{User:ClubPenguin923/sig}}

Inspiration, mayhaps? Certainly seems notable to me. [[User:65.11.113.31|65.11.113.31]] 16:33, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

== Just saying... ==
Not all the games would be M rated. I interviewed a friend and here are his results:

Blood Bleeder - T 
Head Chopper 2 - M 
Scab Wars - T 
Blistergeist - T

What do you think? --{{User:Gtxm78/sig}} 21:58, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:And what is this based on? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:04, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
:It's not really your friend's opinion that matters, unless his surname is Chapman. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 16:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Matt Chapman

Evil Egg — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:25:34 GMT

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hm...this page is lookin' funny...what's with the extra space behind the H*R link?

I'll give this a tweak. It could use a space under the photo I think.
[[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

:I think we might want to incorporate the subpage "Facts" from 'Tavi into a section onto the page itself. Also, we need to figure out what we are going to do with the "HomestarLinks" page that this page references. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:38, 4 Aug 2004 (MST)

Okeydokey. I'll go ahead and import the Facts page into Matt's page. If we wanna move, we can do it later, right?
Homestarlinks...yeah...is there some special MediaWiki links page format thinger? That'd probably be the best way to do it. [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 16:00, 4 Aug 2004 (AZ)

Hey Whats the Link to the movie, i cant find it anywhere? 9-15-04

What's the deal with someone baleeting the facts, they were actually there for a while then it just said the article was a stub. I put the facts just under the article, as I didn't want it lost. So, anyone know what happened? P.S I love Matt Chapman[[User:MJ|Of course this is from MJ]]

:Looking at the page history, it doesn't seem that they were ever there. Though we did talk about them... Nice work getting them over here.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:54, 4 Oct 2004 (MST)

== Inline refs ==

I've added the inline references back to the page. I should have put a note or something on here about them a while ago. Sorry about that. When M.J and I were drawing up the plans for this page a long time ago, I made her put all of those inline references in there. This was mostly because it would be so hard to confirm these hard to find facts. In fact, I really didn't even believe a few of them at first. Of course, this really only applies to this kind of page, where we are dealing with a real life person and can have a zero margin of error. If we decide that we really don't like them, I suppose we can hide them in the code with comment tags. (<nowiki></nowiki>)[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:27, 24 Oct 2004 (MST)

:Fair enough. I'm pushing the boundaries here like my three year old! [[User:spblat|spblat]] 21:33, 24 Oct 2004 (MST)

Good work everyone, this page is looking great now. [[User:M.J|M.J]]

== Wife ==
From [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] commentary: 
MATT: So this was, uh, my wife Jackie and I, who was not my wife at the time, wrote this cartoon. 

MIKE: I thought you said "she's not your wife anymore." 

MATT: Who's no longer my wife. No, that's not true. 

Jackie is still his wife, at least up to the time that recorded this. Since we haven't heard anything to the contrary, it should be assumed that they are still together.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 18:05, 4 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I understand it the same way that you do. Meaning: they are still married. (Mike was confused at mishearing Matt. Mike thought Matt said that he and Jackie were no longer married. This confused Mike because Matt and Jackie are ''still'' married. Matt confirms this in the next line.)[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:58, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)
::This conversation was months ago, but I wanted to go ahead and mention that Matt calls Jackie his wife on the ''[[Everything Else, Volume 1]]'' DVD, and is shown wearing a wedding band. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:27, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

== Sealab 2021 ==

Matt Chapman recently created a song and sound byte for a recent episode of Sealab 2021 (on Cartoon Network's "Adult Swim"). The voice is the same as the one he used for Larry of [[Limozeen]]. Matt is credited on this page (in the Mp3's section): http://www.adultswim.com/misc/downloads/index.html

RESPEK KNUCKLES:
http://www.adultswim.com/misc/downloads/audio/sealab/sealab_respektag.mp3

THE KNOWLEDGE HAT:
http://www.adultswim.com/misc/downloads/audio/sealab/sealab_knowledge.mp3

== The Burning Horizon Quote ==

Does anybody know where I can get this now? I used to have it, but after my hard drive exploded, the quote had already been taken off the Videlectrix site. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:05, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
:I got it... let me upload it in a bit, but don't think it'll be a permanent server. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:35, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
:Okay, nab it [http://mywebpages.comcast.net/shadowwing/sounds/bhz.mp3 here]. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:39, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
::That comcast link has been 404'd. Fortunately, this quote is now on the H*R wiki mirror at the following URL: http://hrwiki.org/mirror/bhz.mp3 {{User:The Paper/sig}} 03:26, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::Well I ''did'' say it wasn't permanent. ;P --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:30, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== The Curious Incident of the Paste in the Dessert ==

This page says Mike fed Matt cupcakes with toothpaste inside them. [[marzipan#Trivia|Marzipan]] says it was brownies with toothpaste inside them. Someone'd better clear that up. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 12:19, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Hmm. [http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,59261,00.html This source (wired.com)] says cupcakes, [http://www.ajc.com/living/content/living/0703/21homestar.html this source (ajc.com)] says brownies.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:30, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)

(Is the header title a reference to the book The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night?) -thatkidsam

Yes, it is, Sam. Yes it is. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:10, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I knew it!! --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 12:48, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it was both. Nice reference, btw. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 17:23, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Stick It in Detroit ==

Are we sure that the Matt Chapman here is our Matt? IMDB says "Matt Chapman (VII)", but our Matt is listed as Matt Chapman (II)

:I don't understand what you mean. IMDb's [[imdb:nm1480095|Matt Chapman (II)]] is Matt of [[The Brothers Chaps]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:54, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Swearing? ==

In the tastes like chicken interview, he says f***. Could he be losing his morals? [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]]

That is redicoulous. that was an interview, not on the official site. I have never heard him swear on the site, so he isn't losing his morals. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 20:21, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I agree with Rogue Leader. To me, showing morals isn't not swearing at all. It's knowing when and where it's appropriate. An interview is more or less casual conversation, in which case it's okay. On the site, though, it wouldn't be appropriate. I think the Brothers Chaps are showing MORE morals than most current Flash cartoonists by not resorting to bad language or gratutious violence to make their cartoons funny. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

He isnt loosing his morals thats insane but he dose seem to be the less, um you could say, kids oritented of the 2 a few times on comentairys they have said they restarted the comentairy because Matt swore or he cuts of befor cursing. -{{User:NOT Billy Bob Bob/sig}} 01:38, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
== 29 or 30? ==

Tomorrow is [[$11.01|11.1]], Matt's B-day. Does he turn 29, or 30? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:28, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:According to my amazing mathemetical abilities, E.L., he'll be 29. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 15:43, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

::Cool. thanks. And there is no solution in integers for numbers greater then or equal to three. ;) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:48, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Matthew vs. Matt ==

Yeah I *just* saw where [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Matt_Chapman&diff=201485&oldid=201484 Matthew] is listed... it was a rather [http://www.flickr.com/photos/joeyday/64531295/ obscure source] but it's true! Without a source I probably would've screamed and hollered and complained and just plain have thrown a fit! ;). But the DNA evidence is good! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:38, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:And I'll bet you a millon lbs. of candy that Mike's name is Michael. (But no, I'm not going to change the page until we have some evidence.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:49, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Mike_Chapman&curid=1128&diff=201481&oldid=183805&rcid=145632 Hmmm...] {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:50, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::'''Edit Conflict''' A million lbs? That's an awful lot of candy... But since i'm not really a betting man (I usually lose when I do) I will not bet against you. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:53, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Hey, do a Google Search for '''"Michael Chapman" Homestar Runner'''. You'll find many related hits, many next to "Matthew Chapman". I'm not sure how much evidence this is, but you might want to consider it. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 01:06, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

:If we're going to have that Burning Horizon Forum thing here, don't you think we should make a fun fact about his letter and donation to the HRWiki? Or is that just too much? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:13, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::I get the feeling Joey didn't want to make a huge deal out of it. You should ask him, though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Okey dokey. I thought he might, too. I'd understand if he wouldn't. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

::::I don't want to make a big deal about the donation, but the letter itself should probably be posted somewhere. If someone wants to add Joshua's edit back in and just remove the part about the check, that'd be fine. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:43, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== Family Tree ==

I've made a picture of the [[:Image:Chapman Family treev1.png|Chapman Family Tree]]. Does anybody mind if I put it up on this page? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 22:55, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

:See [[Talk:Mike Chapman#Family Tree]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:06, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

== All the Real Girls ==

The [http://imdb.com/title/tt0299458/ IMDB information] doesn't list Melissa Palmer. And it's not on [http://imdb.com/name/nm0658371/ her page] either. If someone can confirm her role with the film I can add it to IMDB, otherwise the info here should be changed. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:59, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:With no response, Missy has been removed. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:43, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

==Brown Eyes==

It's a small tidbit, but we could add that he has brown eyes. At least that's what it looks like from Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 19:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
: I don't think it would fit anywhere in the page, but I might as well confirm he that he has brown eyes. Trust me. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 02:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
:: o.O — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
::: Don't give me those Marzipan eyes. I just have a few pictures (130 or so) of Matt Chapman and from those I can tell they're brown. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 02:28, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
:::: I mean, I know you are (or have been) obsessed, but the key to any obsession is not to let it show. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
::::: I am not obsessed. I have about as many of Mike (or for that matter, my last visit to the American History Smithsonian). Doesn't everybody have a couple pictures of celebrities stored away? —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 02:37, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't think it's of any importance that he has brown eyes. This is not an FBI dossier, it's a writeup of what he's done relating to H*R. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:35, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

== Yoshi's Story ==

IMDB credits him as [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1480095/#actor1990 doing "various" voices on Yoshi's Story], but this seems unlikely to me, considering the game predates Homestar Runner (as we know it) by a few years. I also wonder about the "Thanks" allegedly credited to him in the 2000 film "George Washington". Anybody here know anything about this? - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 20:13, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

:[[Craig]] [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0262432/fullcredits#producers is listed] as a producer for [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0262432/ George Washington], so that seems likely. As for Matt's [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0300682/fullcredits#cast listing] on [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0300682/ Yoshi's Story], I guess it's possible, since he does do voices. Since it wouldn't have anything to do with Homestar Runner, I don't think it would matter what the date was. But it could just as easily be a fan who thought it sounded similar. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:19, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

:: I personally think that was either vandalism or a mistake. The game was made in Japan, and none of the voice acting that I recall in that game was in English (or Japanese, for that matter). I don't have any idea why they would have re-recorded the voices in the American version. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:29, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

:::A couple pieces of data: [http://www.mobygames.com/game/n64/yoshis-story/credits the credits] for ''Yoshi's Story'' from mobygames, and a [http://youtube.com/watch?v=W7tOGXoauoo YouTube video] of the ending — Matt Chapman isn't listed on either one. From the comments on the YouTube video,
<blockquote>
Where is Matt Chapman in the credits...he did some on the sounds and "voices", right?
:From what I remember from reading Wikipedia a few days back, Kazumi Totaka was the one who did the sounds and the "voices" in the game.
</blockquote>
:::On a related note, [[User:Tom|Tom]] found [http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,110589/ this entry] for a Matt Chapman, who, from [http://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/true-crime-streets-of-la/credits the credits] for ''True Crime: Streets of LA'' appears to be the one from Homestar Runner. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:44, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

== Broken Links ==

Several of the links to endnotes are broken, apparently because the sites hosting the articles have taken them down. [[User:76.114.206.220|76.114.206.220]] 03:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
:I found only one broken link, which I commented out so it won't appear for now. If anyone can find if that article moved somewhere else or summat, that'd be great. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:08, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

== Star Warped ==

It seems our favourite mad voice actor's had experience with editing Jedi Knight, and it's apparently carried over into more recent endevours...
I found this mod for Jedi Knight called Mechanics of the Force part 1 on Massassi.net (and another website that escapes me now, but had the level two years earlier, in '98), and you can find it here: http://www.massassi.net/levels/files/22.shtml. Incidentally, if you do have Jedi Knight, download that baby, it's great.
Now, I imagine you're thinking "Surely this can't be the same guy?" upon seeing the author's name, much like I did. But, if you do DL and play the level, you'll notice that not only does the author apparently provide his own voice acting, but does a damn fine job of it, too. Not a smoking gun, but there's more, in our favourite online cartoons:

[[current_status]]: Strong Bad, when running from Coach B and Zubs, makes the same footstep noises Kyle Katarn does when he walks. (There are also examples of a running-on-stone sound used all about the series, if I remember right.)

[[50_emails]]: Homestar types in 3TDted (or something like that) in an effort to delete an email. 3TD is the name of the main character in MotF. Coincidence?

Anyway, do all y'all reckon this is worth adding to various articles? [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 13:37, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Matt Chapman

Evil Egg — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:37:28 GMT

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hm...this page is lookin' funny...what's with the extra space behind the H*R link?

I'll give this a tweak. It could use a space under the photo I think.
[[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]]

:I think we might want to incorporate the subpage "Facts" from 'Tavi into a section onto the page itself. Also, we need to figure out what we are going to do with the "HomestarLinks" page that this page references. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:38, 4 Aug 2004 (MST)

Okeydokey. I'll go ahead and import the Facts page into Matt's page. If we wanna move, we can do it later, right?
Homestarlinks...yeah...is there some special MediaWiki links page format thinger? That'd probably be the best way to do it. [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 16:00, 4 Aug 2004 (AZ)

Hey Whats the Link to the movie, i cant find it anywhere? 9-15-04

What's the deal with someone baleeting the facts, they were actually there for a while then it just said the article was a stub. I put the facts just under the article, as I didn't want it lost. So, anyone know what happened? P.S I love Matt Chapman[[User:MJ|Of course this is from MJ]]

:Looking at the page history, it doesn't seem that they were ever there. Though we did talk about them... Nice work getting them over here.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:54, 4 Oct 2004 (MST)

== Inline refs ==

I've added the inline references back to the page. I should have put a note or something on here about them a while ago. Sorry about that. When M.J and I were drawing up the plans for this page a long time ago, I made her put all of those inline references in there. This was mostly because it would be so hard to confirm these hard to find facts. In fact, I really didn't even believe a few of them at first. Of course, this really only applies to this kind of page, where we are dealing with a real life person and can have a zero margin of error. If we decide that we really don't like them, I suppose we can hide them in the code with comment tags. (<nowiki></nowiki>)[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:27, 24 Oct 2004 (MST)

:Fair enough. I'm pushing the boundaries here like my three year old! [[User:spblat|spblat]] 21:33, 24 Oct 2004 (MST)

Good work everyone, this page is looking great now. [[User:M.J|M.J]]

== Wife ==
From [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]] commentary: 
MATT: So this was, uh, my wife Jackie and I, who was not my wife at the time, wrote this cartoon. 

MIKE: I thought you said "she's not your wife anymore." 

MATT: Who's no longer my wife. No, that's not true. 

Jackie is still his wife, at least up to the time that recorded this. Since we haven't heard anything to the contrary, it should be assumed that they are still together.--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 18:05, 4 Dec 2004 (MST)

:I understand it the same way that you do. Meaning: they are still married. (Mike was confused at mishearing Matt. Mike thought Matt said that he and Jackie were no longer married. This confused Mike because Matt and Jackie are ''still'' married. Matt confirms this in the next line.)[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:58, 8 Dec 2004 (MST)
::This conversation was months ago, but I wanted to go ahead and mention that Matt calls Jackie his wife on the ''[[Everything Else, Volume 1]]'' DVD, and is shown wearing a wedding band. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:27, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

== Sealab 2021 ==

Matt Chapman recently created a song and sound byte for a recent episode of Sealab 2021 (on Cartoon Network's "Adult Swim"). The voice is the same as the one he used for Larry of [[Limozeen]]. Matt is credited on this page (in the Mp3's section): http://www.adultswim.com/misc/downloads/index.html

RESPEK KNUCKLES:
http://www.adultswim.com/misc/downloads/audio/sealab/sealab_respektag.mp3

THE KNOWLEDGE HAT:
http://www.adultswim.com/misc/downloads/audio/sealab/sealab_knowledge.mp3

== The Burning Horizon Quote ==

Does anybody know where I can get this now? I used to have it, but after my hard drive exploded, the quote had already been taken off the Videlectrix site. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:05, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
:I got it... let me upload it in a bit, but don't think it'll be a permanent server. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:35, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
:Okay, nab it [http://mywebpages.comcast.net/shadowwing/sounds/bhz.mp3 here]. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:39, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
::That comcast link has been 404'd. Fortunately, this quote is now on the H*R wiki mirror at the following URL: http://hrwiki.org/mirror/bhz.mp3 {{User:The Paper/sig}} 03:26, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::Well I ''did'' say it wasn't permanent. ;P --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 03:30, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== The Curious Incident of the Paste in the Dessert ==

This page says Mike fed Matt cupcakes with toothpaste inside them. [[marzipan#Trivia|Marzipan]] says it was brownies with toothpaste inside them. Someone'd better clear that up. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 12:19, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Hmm. [http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,59261,00.html This source (wired.com)] says cupcakes, [http://www.ajc.com/living/content/living/0703/21homestar.html this source (ajc.com)] says brownies.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:30, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)

(Is the header title a reference to the book The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night?) -thatkidsam

Yes, it is, Sam. Yes it is. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:10, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I knew it!! --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 12:48, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it was both. Nice reference, btw. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 17:23, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== Stick It in Detroit ==

Are we sure that the Matt Chapman here is our Matt? IMDB says "Matt Chapman (VII)", but our Matt is listed as Matt Chapman (II)

:I don't understand what you mean. IMDb's [[imdb:nm1480095|Matt Chapman (II)]] is Matt of [[The Brothers Chaps]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:54, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Swearing? ==

In the tastes like chicken interview, he says f***. Could he be losing his morals? [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]]

That is redicoulous. that was an interview, not on the official site. I have never heard him swear on the site, so he isn't losing his morals. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 20:21, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I agree with Rogue Leader. To me, showing morals isn't not swearing at all. It's knowing when and where it's appropriate. An interview is more or less casual conversation, in which case it's okay. On the site, though, it wouldn't be appropriate. I think the Brothers Chaps are showing MORE morals than most current Flash cartoonists by not resorting to bad language or gratutious violence to make their cartoons funny. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

He isnt loosing his morals thats insane but he dose seem to be the less, um you could say, kids oritented of the 2 a few times on comentairys they have said they restarted the comentairy because Matt swore or he cuts of befor cursing. -{{User:NOT Billy Bob Bob/sig}} 01:38, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
== 29 or 30? ==

Tomorrow is [[$11.01|11.1]], Matt's B-day. Does he turn 29, or 30? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:28, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:According to my amazing mathemetical abilities, E.L., he'll be 29. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 15:43, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

::Cool. thanks. And there is no solution in integers for numbers greater then or equal to three. ;) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:48, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Matthew vs. Matt ==

Yeah I *just* saw where [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Matt_Chapman&diff=201485&oldid=201484 Matthew] is listed... it was a rather [http://www.flickr.com/photos/joeyday/64531295/ obscure source] but it's true! Without a source I probably would've screamed and hollered and complained and just plain have thrown a fit! ;). But the DNA evidence is good! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:38, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:And I'll bet you a millon lbs. of candy that Mike's name is Michael. (But no, I'm not going to change the page until we have some evidence.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:49, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Mike_Chapman&curid=1128&diff=201481&oldid=183805&rcid=145632 Hmmm...] {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:50, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::'''Edit Conflict''' A million lbs? That's an awful lot of candy... But since i'm not really a betting man (I usually lose when I do) I will not bet against you. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:53, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Hey, do a Google Search for '''"Michael Chapman" Homestar Runner'''. You'll find many related hits, many next to "Matthew Chapman". I'm not sure how much evidence this is, but you might want to consider it. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 01:06, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

:If we're going to have that Burning Horizon Forum thing here, don't you think we should make a fun fact about his letter and donation to the HRWiki? Or is that just too much? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:13, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::I get the feeling Joey didn't want to make a huge deal out of it. You should ask him, though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:24, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Okey dokey. I thought he might, too. I'd understand if he wouldn't. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

::::I don't want to make a big deal about the donation, but the letter itself should probably be posted somewhere. If someone wants to add Joshua's edit back in and just remove the part about the check, that'd be fine. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:43, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== Family Tree ==

I've made a picture of the [[:Image:Chapman Family treev1.png|Chapman Family Tree]]. Does anybody mind if I put it up on this page? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 22:55, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

:See [[Talk:Mike Chapman#Family Tree]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:06, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

== All the Real Girls ==

The [http://imdb.com/title/tt0299458/ IMDB information] doesn't list Melissa Palmer. And it's not on [http://imdb.com/name/nm0658371/ her page] either. If someone can confirm her role with the film I can add it to IMDB, otherwise the info here should be changed. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:59, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:With no response, Missy has been removed. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:43, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

==Brown Eyes==

It's a small tidbit, but we could add that he has brown eyes. At least that's what it looks like from Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 19:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
: I don't think it would fit anywhere in the page, but I might as well confirm he that he has brown eyes. Trust me. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 02:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
:: o.O — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
::: Don't give me those Marzipan eyes. I just have a few pictures (130 or so) of Matt Chapman and from those I can tell they're brown. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 02:28, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
:::: I mean, I know you are (or have been) obsessed, but the key to any obsession is not to let it show. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
::::: I am not obsessed. I have about as many of Mike (or for that matter, my last visit to the American History Smithsonian). Doesn't everybody have a couple pictures of celebrities stored away? —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 02:37, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't think it's of any importance that he has brown eyes. This is not an FBI dossier, it's a writeup of what he's done relating to H*R. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:35, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

== Yoshi's Story ==

IMDB credits him as [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1480095/#actor1990 doing "various" voices on Yoshi's Story], but this seems unlikely to me, considering the game predates Homestar Runner (as we know it) by a few years. I also wonder about the "Thanks" allegedly credited to him in the 2000 film "George Washington". Anybody here know anything about this? - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 20:13, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

:[[Craig]] [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0262432/fullcredits#producers is listed] as a producer for [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0262432/ George Washington], so that seems likely. As for Matt's [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0300682/fullcredits#cast listing] on [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0300682/ Yoshi's Story], I guess it's possible, since he does do voices. Since it wouldn't have anything to do with Homestar Runner, I don't think it would matter what the date was. But it could just as easily be a fan who thought it sounded similar. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:19, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

:: I personally think that was either vandalism or a mistake. The game was made in Japan, and none of the voice acting that I recall in that game was in English (or Japanese, for that matter). I don't have any idea why they would have re-recorded the voices in the American version. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:29, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

:::A couple pieces of data: [http://www.mobygames.com/game/n64/yoshis-story/credits the credits] for ''Yoshi's Story'' from mobygames, and a [http://youtube.com/watch?v=W7tOGXoauoo YouTube video] of the ending — Matt Chapman isn't listed on either one. From the comments on the YouTube video,
<blockquote>
Where is Matt Chapman in the credits...he did some on the sounds and "voices", right?
:From what I remember from reading Wikipedia a few days back, Kazumi Totaka was the one who did the sounds and the "voices" in the game.
</blockquote>
:::On a related note, [[User:Tom|Tom]] found [http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,110589/ this entry] for a Matt Chapman, who, from [http://www.mobygames.com/game/ps2/true-crime-streets-of-la/credits the credits] for ''True Crime: Streets of LA'' appears to be the one from Homestar Runner. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:44, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

== Broken Links ==

Several of the links to endnotes are broken, apparently because the sites hosting the articles have taken them down. [[User:76.114.206.220|76.114.206.220]] 03:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
:I found only one broken link, which I commented out so it won't appear for now. If anyone can find if that article moved somewhere else or summat, that'd be great. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:08, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

== Star Warped ==

It seems our favourite mad voice actor's had experience with editing Jedi Knight, and it's apparently carried over into more recent endevours...
I found this mod for Jedi Knight called Mechanics of the Force part 1 on Massassi.net (and another website that escapes me now, but had the level two years earlier, in '98), and you can find it here: http://www.massassi.net/levels/files/22.shtml. Incidentally, if you do have Jedi Knight, download that baby, it's great.
Now, I imagine you're thinking "Surely this can't be the same guy?" upon seeing the author's name, much like I did. But, if you do DL and play the level, you'll notice that not only does the author apparently provide his own voice acting, but does a damn fine job of it, too. Not a smoking gun, but there's more, in our favourite online cartoons:
[[current_status]]: Strong Bad, when running from Coach B and Zubs, makes the same footstep noises Kyle Katarn does when he walks. (There are also examples of a running-on-stone sound used all about the series, if I remember right.)
[[50_emails]]: Homestar types in 3TDted (or something like that) in an effort to delete an email. 3TD is the name of the main character in MotF. Coincidence

Anyway, do all y'all reckon this is worth adding to various articles? [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 13:37, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:disconnected

Evil Egg — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:21:36 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Eggman */

==Twicely Fresh==
Does anyone else think that Bubs doesn't actually say the second "Twicely Fresh." I know it's hard to see if his lips are moving while he's moving his head around, but after watching it the first time, I watched it frame by frame and I belive that the second "Twicely Fresh" is an echo or something. Your thoughts? — [[User:DrWorm|DrWorm]] 02:16, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

==Running Time==
I timed this email just to check if the current one was right, and I got 3:10 at the end of [[The Paper]]'s descent. Do we go by when The Paper first comes down or when he finishes coming down? {{User:LePorello/sig}} 12:39, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:At the end of the email, including "waiting" easter eggs; meaning after The Paper has finished printing. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:21, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

==Half Life 2 reference==
The Poop Smith looks a lot like a combine metrocop in Half Life 2, Maybe that was a real world refrence! [[user:Masher101.|Masher101.]] 7:14AM, 13 March 2006

:Well, if you think it's a reference, go ahead and add it! I wouldn't know; I've never played Half Life 2. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:18, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:I doubt that this was intentional. Feel free to request for it to be [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF'd]]. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:21, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

::I thought he looked more like those things in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy movie. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:05, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:::[[Wikipedia:Races from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy#Vogons|Vogons]], you mean? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 18:34, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

::::Yes, that's what I'm thinking of. Especially the scenes with all of them in their suits with lasers on their chests. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:I agree, he looks a lot like a CP with a stunstick. ([http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Image:Metrocop_police.jpg Image]) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:49, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:I also agree, and I came to this page looking to see if anyone else had thought the same. He looks like one of those black Combine guys. [[User:24.222.225.198|24.222.225.198]] 00:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

:I agree as well. Definitely a combine cop.

::Although I haven't played Halflife, so I can't make a call there, what he looks like is someone in riot gear, including a gas mask. (Now, maybe they made the eyepiece red as a reference; like I say, I haven't seen it.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

:::I agree with AbdiViklas, it looks like any other quasi-scifi riot cop wearing a gas mask. A quick Google Images search turns up lots of Half-Life 2 [http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&q=metrocop&btnG=Search metrocops], but none of them have one or more red eyes, which pretty much knocks out any possibility of a direct reference for me. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 17:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

::::Personally, I thought it was a reference to the film [[Wikipedia:Jin-roh|Jin-Roh]], which would explain the red eyes. But maybe I'm just seeing things. [[User:70.246.134.61|70.246.134.61]] 01:34, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::I think it resembles a metrocop with the dark gear of a combine soldier and the red eyepiece of an elite soldier. - Lazor'd
::::::It looks nothing like a combine soldier or anything I've seen in Half Life 2. (I've played the whole game twice){{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:14, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

== "I hate your shoes" or "I think you're cute"? ==

I'm not sure what it is the mutant head bad is saying at the end, but it sounds far more like "I think you're cute" than "I hate your shoes". I could be wrong though. What do you alls think? --[[User:86.135.179.79|86.135.179.79]] 13:42, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:I hear "I think you're shoes", though it's most probably something else. I'm betting 100 pencil shavings that this is going to be the next Quote of the Week. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:48, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:I hear "I think you're cute!" I'm listening again to be sure, though. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
::I hear "shoes". {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 15:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I think you'e cute (with a chuckle) here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:56, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I heard "I like your shoes." Must just be me. {{User:Tom_Epsilon/sig}}
:::::Definitely "I think you're cute". I'm changing it. [[User:Qduk|Qduk]] 22:24, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::: I'm changing it back. No "Cute" here. I hear a very distinct "SH" sound. And, yeah, prime QoW material here. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I think this requires a more formal vote, as it's so clearly a "t" at the end for me. Agree? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:40, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Not me. I'm iffy on the "hate", but I'm pretty confident on "shoes". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:42, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I hear what you call a "sh" as an aspirated "k". Like he's gigling. Listen for that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Yeah. This would be exacerbated by the sound compression. Trust me, he says "I think you're cute". [[User:Qduk|Qduk]] 22:59, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::I definitely hear "Hate your shoes". Where's Keifer? He always helps with these... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::::::Sorry, I was off getting married. :) Missed my opportunity to contribute to this discussion. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:11, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
: I turned it up. I still hear no K and no T. And no KoT. The word is "shoes", and the more I listen to it, the more confident I am. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:36, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
::As did I. It is clear we will reach no concensus. I suggest a formal vote to determine which will be the transcript phraseology and which will be the footnote. If a QOTD comes out, we'll all win. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm a "I-hate-your-shoes" guy meslef, but it almost sounds as if he's saying "I ''lick'' your shoes." Or maybe it's ''hick'' your shoes? It kind of sounds different each time I hear it.[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:02, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:Just throwing this out there... why would Head Bad be giggling (it sounds like nervous giggling, 's'all) while insulting someone who is basically his other half's shoes? {{User:Tom_Epsilon/sig}} 01:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:: Uh, we have a vote way vvv down there. Check it out! No, seriously, check it out! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:09, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:: Okay, never mind, didn't see that you already voted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Why would he be giggling? Maybe laughing at how stupid his shoes are, while commenting "I hate your shoes". {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

:For what it's worth, I definitely hear "I think you're cute." [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 04:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I just can't hear "cute". I hear "shoes". But at that, I can't hear "like" or "hate", either. "I think you're/your shoes" doesn't make sense at all. But then, some things [[Talk:highschool#Dialogue questions|just don't]], even when we reach a general consensus. -[[User:YK|YK]] 09:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
I hear "I like your shoes". {{User:Salty/sig}} 15:40, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
: So do I ... and this is one of the few suggestions that actually makes sense in context. A disembodied head rolling around on the ground is at "shoe level" ... and why would Strong Bad ''hate'' the shoes he obviously picked out himself? {{User:Bill/sig}} 20:31, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Would there be a way for me to upload an .ogg of the disputed quote slowed down? Because... I definately don't hear a "teh" sound at the end of the second word. It almost sounds like he's saying "I ''lake'' your shoes." :/ {{User:Tom_Epsilon/sig}} 19:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, or "I hake your shoes". Yeah, "I hake your shoes".
::That would make a heckofa lot of sense. It's going to be something sensible, I'm sure! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
=== Poll for the debated Head Bad quote ===
{{Audio|Shoes.ogg|Listen to the quote}}

Vote what you think Strong Bad's mutated head says:

'''I hate your shoes.'''
#{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:11, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
#--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]]
#{{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}}
#[[User:Jecowa|Jecowa]]
#[[User:Traveling Ham|Traveling Ham]]
#{{User:Venusy/Sig}}
#{{User:Trey56/sig}}
#[[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]]
#{{User:Taco Salad of My Dreams/sig}}
#[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]]
#[[User:Stux|Stux]]
#{{User:The Chort/sig}}
#{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:00, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:Troggie|Troggie]] 00:17, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
#{{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:13, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 00:11, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
#{{User:The Mu/sig}} 18:45, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:The Thecheatcute11/Thecheatcute11]] 17:51, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:InvaderJem/InvaderJem]]
#{{User:X66x66/sig}}
#[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]]
#-{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}}

'''I think you're cute.'''
#[[User:Qduk|Qduk]]
#{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:15, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
#{{User:NFITC1/sig}}
#[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]]
#[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]]
#[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
#[[User:Nicko9y|Nicko9y]] 23:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 07:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
#{{User:Phlip/sig}}
#{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:32, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
#{{User:Dacheatbot/sig}}
#[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
#[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]]
#— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 09:13, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
#{{User:FireBird/sig}} 14:16, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:Andyroid|Andyroid]]
#[[User:Octan|Octan]] 05:38, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:Gus|Gus]] 18:26, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
# anonymous
#[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:40, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
#{{User:S 2 da B/sig}}
#[[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 06:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
#[[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 7:23, July 25, 2007 (EST)

'''I like your shoes.'''
#{{User:Tom_Epsilon/sig}} 00:59, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
#{{User:Bill/sig}} 20:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:Headbad and strongbody|Headbad and strongbody]] 15:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
#{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:38, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:Evan|Evan]]

'''I think you're shoes. (shoes could be huge)'''
#{{User:Csours/sig}} 05:34, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

'''I thank your shoes'''

#[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]]
#{{User:Joshua/sig}}

'''Can We Get An Easily Accessable .OGG Sound Clip First?'''
*done it{{User:Csours/sig}} 05:46, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
**How do you listen to .ogg files? (i.e., what program do you use?) Thanks, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:42, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
***See [[Sound Effects]] for help on this. Each ogg link there has a help link too. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:44, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
****Perfect -- thanks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:49, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

*Just a note: the .ogg file cuts off the last "s" sound that you hear if you listen to the clip in the context of the toon. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:00, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
**No it doesn't. The ogg has the entire quote, nothing is cut off. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:04, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
***I have to disagree. Perhaps it's my media player (VLC), but I definitely hear an "s" sound at the end of the last word in the cartoon, but ''not'' in the sound clip. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:15, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
****I just checked. The ogg file is not great quality compard to the swf, but I am hering it all, right up to just before SB starts to type. Maybe your player isn't playing it all? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:25, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
*****You could be right, in which case I wonder if other users may be experiencing the same problem...anyway, thanks for checking. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:30, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
**In fact, this might account for some users' votes for options that don't have an "s" at the end. It might be helpful to upload a sound file that records a moment longer, even if I'm wrong (I would, but I'm pretty sure I don't have the right software). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:20, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
***Hmm. My vote was based on the swf itself. And the ogg simply strengthens my thought on this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:22, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
****I opened the .ogg file and the swf's soundtrack in Audacity and compared them - believe me when I say there is ''nothing'' after the ogg file except silence and Strong Bad's reaction. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:03, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like he's saying, "I thake your chute." That doesn't make sense so I voted otherwise. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 16:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::I swear, I keep hearing something different every time I listen to it. Because of that, I really can't place a fair vote here. -[[User:YK|YK]] 21:30, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Has anyone thought to email TBC and ask what he said there? I'm sure they'd tell us if they knew it was going on the wiki. But then again, they probably aren't sure either. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 04:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Given that I'm not aware of them ever clearing up our debate in [[do over]], I'm not sure that would necessarily work. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::I don't remember the debate in do over. You're pwobabwy wight anyway. I was a-hoping there. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 06:25, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
*It is *clear* he said shoes (you can hear the "sh" sound and the "s" sound at the beginning and end, respectively. The "ha" sound is quite evident; and even though the "t" sound is more subtle, it's still there. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:36, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
**Must not be ''too'' clear, as about half think it's the other one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:43, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Right. I can hear why people think it's said both ways. No kidding. Looks like this is a job for Stupid Uncle Egg's good time quote of the week. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:13, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Not this week, unfortunately. -[[User:YK|YK]] 00:45, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::I find that very surprising, given that we have the OGG recording. I played it *several* times (like 15-20) with my earphones, and they're just regular run-of-the-mill earphones, and I am quite certain I heard what I described, especially for the shoes part. So it kinda baffles me. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:54, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
I definitely hear "cute", but I hope I can contribute more. I was inspired by [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk's]] clarification of Homsar's "Pennzoil" quote back in [[Talk:Fall Float Parade#Tinfoil or Pennzoil?|the Thanksgiving toon]]. I sped up the quote by 33 percent, and I think it makes "cute" sound clearer. {{Audio|Cute.ogg|Take a listen}}. Furthermore, the quote, "I think you're cute," simply makes more sense than, "I hate your shoes." What's funny about hating someone's shoes? But the mutated head of Strong Bad hitting on his equally grotesque body? Now ''that's'' funny. It even plays on Strong Bad's narcissism. This one's definitely "cute".--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:15, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:Arrgh. That just made it even more confusing for me. I still can't hear "cute", but sped up it now sounds like he's saying "I take your shoes!". Waaah. -[[User:YK|YK]] 06:25, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
::Listening to it speeded up slightly has convinced me that "you're cute" is right. Plus, it makes more sense in context. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 09:13, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I personally don't see how either one makes sense in context. For that matter, how "I would like to go to the store" makes contextual sense, but no one is contesting that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:25, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, I didn't say it makes good sense; I said it makes ''more'' sense. I think that a Strong Bad clone would be more likely to praise rather than criticize his other self. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 09:38, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

::::After listening to the clip many times, I think its "I like your shoes." Even more obvious than shoes vs cute is the "I like your" part; and, "I like your cute" doesn't make any sense. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:43, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Is the voting ever going to be over? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:25, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

== Strammy ==

Just for it to be noted somewhere: Stramy is a nick name for our beloved user [[User:Homestramy20|Homestramy]]. Coach Z said: "Old 'Strammy's gone and quit the runnin' business!" and our Stramy did leave for personal reasons. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:You don't think they're on to us, do you? -shifty eyes- - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:I'll repeat this; it's definitely a coincidence. Thanks for the notice, though, E.L. Cool. I'm sure Homestramy20 will enjoy it. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 18:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:I'd say it's somewhat from "A Jorb Well Done" — [[User:70.29.120.82|70.29.120.82]] 22:21, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, I agree. Strammy, as in Stramstar. AJWD all the way. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 23:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Agreed. Definitely coincidence, but I must admit, I thought of Homestramy, myself, when I heard it, despite not having been here for long. Heh. (I lurked for months before I finally registered and started posting/editting.) -[[User:YK|YK]] 09:40, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

== Panera Bread ==

mmmm
make sure to try their sierra turkey and i.c cappuchino blended ice coffee drink

anyone else ever been?

hmm, my security verify posting coat is deffbo, that gives me a idea for a weightloss to cRAPPY music thingy

:It literally took me like five minutes to parse the last sentence above. For those five minutes I was sure it was computer-generated gibberish like the kind you sometimes find in spam. No offense.— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 16:26, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

::What ''does'' it mean? {{User:Granola/sig}} 17:41, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Rough translation: "The CAPTCHA code I was required to enter in order to post this anonymous comment was 'deffbo,' which gives me an idea for a fitness video a la Tae Bo but with crappy music." — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 00:20, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::: im so confused, i thought def meant good??!{{User:Csours/sig}} 05:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::What on Earth does "deffbo" mean?? {{User:Granola/sig}} 05:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::It doesn't mean anything. The way the anon used it was one of those goofy combined words (deaf and Tae Bo?). As for where it came from, when you make an anonymous edit, you have to type in letters randomly generated in a blurry image in order for it to appear. The reason for this is because humans can generally read the letters, but computers can't, so this should help weed out spambots/vandal bots. -[[User:YK|YK]] 09:39, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Ohh, I see, deffbo was the code that time; I was thinking the anon had ''described'' it as "deffbo". {{User:Granola/sig}} 15:18, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

== "Hope I can find my local..." ==

Listening to Strong Bad's last line in the e-mail, I keep hearing him saying "''Hope I can find my local '''bunman'''...''", whereas the transcript currently shows "''Hope I can find my local '''bunmaker'''...''" Can anyone else lend their ears and offer their opinion on what he's saying? It was reverted out of this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=disconnected&oldid=285233] revision, so I just want some sort of consensus before changing th transcript. [[User:63.166.226.115|63.166.226.115]] 16:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:Def "bunman". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:54, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:: I had my sound low-ish when I transcribed, so as not to disturb my neighbors. If I made any mistakes, that's the reason. Just defending myself is all. ;) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:30, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I can clearly hear bunman not bunmaker. --{{User:Antispam}} 17:15, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

== J-J-J-Jenny and The Bets ==

The way Strong bad said "Jenny" reminded me of the song, ''Benny and The Jets'' by [[Wikipedia:Elton_John|Elton John]]. Anybody else think this justifies a real world reference? [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]]
:Not me, seems a stretch. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
::When I heard him, I was thinking of the song "867-5309 (Jenny)" by Tommy Tutone. Then again, maybe someone who has actually heard that song can confirm or deny it. - Andyroid
:::Definitely not that song. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:40, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
::::agree that its not that song, also the first jenny sounds like forrest gumps' jenny. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:11, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

== A Million Yards? ==

Nobody has mentioned that 1 million yards = 3 million feet (1 yard = 3 feet right?) = 568.18 miles (1 mile = 5280 feet). You can take it from here (like by saying at 60 MPH it would take 9 hrs to complete, 90 hrs at 6MPH, 52 mins at speed of sound (at air i think it's 676MPH), and for light... well, 1.89 milliseconds). I'm still on wikivacation though. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:21, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:I'd think SB just called it that in exaggeration. No other character or signage does. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:29, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

== Is Homestar's bread fixation becoming a running gag? ==

He not only has held Bread Sing-alongs (in Origins), but has also tried to pass off "Moldy Bread, Guys" as Cheat-cakes (in Do-Over). -SomeoneWhoHasn'tCreatedAnAccontYet
:Maybe. There is circumstantial evidence that [[helium|he only eats pork and beans]]. Then again, we haven't seen him try to eat bread. I wonder if we could tie this in with [[Stinkoman|Stinkoman's]] love of bread.
This is the third or fourth mention of cornbread- "Pawkheegan/Cornbread hour", "Mine name Cornbread"... and one other I can't think of. Running Gag'd?[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 04:47, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:I'm inclined to agree with this being a Running Gag (even though Homestar didn't say Mine name Cornbread- that was Bubs.) --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:06, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, but it's TBC's third mention of Cornbread. I was so sure there was another one, but it escapes me. Oh well! [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
Actually, Homestar has been seen eating bread- remember the light bulb sammich?-[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 00:45, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Anyway, I think that the pork & bean comment in Helium was just Homestar being clueless. {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}} 00:33, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== Re-Animator Real-world reference ==

I believe "Regenerator" is a real-world reference to the low-to-no budget horror film "Re-animator," based off the works of H.P. Lovecraft. This is probably worth a brief reference on the page for this e-mail.

[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089885/ IMDB link to "Re-Animator"]

Hi, I've been lurking for many months but this is my first attempt at actually working with Wiki. {{unsigned|Evil Jim|19:24, March 13, 2006 (UTC)}}

That's pretty likely, since "bad guy" in Re-animator has his head cut off and does all sorts of crazy things. -- Crowther 00:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Coincidentally (or perhaps not), we are told that SB's film is called "Regenerator 4" and there are currently three Re-Animator films.

:ReAnimator and Regenerator? That's about as coincidental as you get. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:57, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

::The phonetic resemblance is plain to see, the number of existing sequels lines up, and the parallel details between Reanimator and the events of the e-mail seal the deal. Both feature a disembodied head with strange appendages. This is an obvoius ReAnimator reference. [[Wikipedia:User:Phil Bond|Phil Bond]] 06:34, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

=== The HRWiki is not Wikipedia ===
:::[[STUFF]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:47, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
:::What you're saying is that the Homestar Wiki is a democracy where ignorant people can trump people with obscure yet correct information. I found that dismaying, and was feeling disenfranchised about the whole Wiki notion until I found this on the real Wikipedia:

:::'''Wikipedia is not a democracy'''
:::Wikipedia is not an experiment in democracy. Its primary method of finding consensus is discussion, not voting. In difficult cases, straw polls may be conducted to help determine consensus, but are to be used with caution and not to be treated as binding votes. Suggestions that Wikipedia use the latest fancy transferable vote system for some election or another will likely be met with disdain, at best. --[[wikipedia:WP:WWIN|What Wikipedia is Not]]

:::Perhaps I should stick to working there, where they [[Wikipedia:WP:BITE|don't bite the newcomers]]. To anyone who subscribes to this "[[STUFF]]" notion, I recommend you read "[[Wikipedia:Why Wikipedia is so great|Why Wikipedia is so great]]." -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil_Bond|Phil Bond]] 06:53, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Well.... we're not Wikipedia. {{User:Salty/sig}} 07:02, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::And that's why you're not so great. -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil_Bond|Phil Bond]] 07:17, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

::::::We also don't take [[Wikipedia:Internet sock puppet|sock puppet accounts]] very lightly, just like [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Sock puppetry|Wikipedia doesn't]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:25, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::If you'll click my name and check my contributions, you'll see I'm a vigorous contributor to Wikipedia. The guy who started this Re-Animator issue is a friend of mine who's never contributed to Wiki before, but wanted to help when he found a reference within his realm of expertise. I reassured him that Wiki is an organic, participation-required medium where if you have something to contribute: you can in good faith do so, and not worry about stepping on anyone's toes. But now I'm finding that the HR version of Wiki is a Wiki in name only, where everything is subject to approval by committee? Why use the Wiki name and engine, then? Why not run on a form submission model like IMDB? [[HRWiki:Introduction|Is this whole page just an artifact?]] Is anyone going to discuss these points with me, or am I just going to be met with juvenile brevity and conspiracy theories? Should I take it to the discussion page of STUFF itself? -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil_Bond|Phil Bond]] 08:08, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::::Okay, I've pored over your "STUFF" policy, and though it still rubs me the wrong way, it might not be as bad as it seems at first glance. I hope I'm correct to understand that not every single contribution to HRWiki is subjected to this procedure, but that it's a dispute resolution technique. So, trying to do as the Romans do, I've elaborated on the STUFF section for this topic. I hope those on the "against" side agree with a slight rephrasing of their points. I even added an arguement against, in counterpoint to a new arguement for. -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil_Bond|Phil Bond]] 10:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

So as not to potentially leave anybody hanging: I figured [[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]] might be the best person to handle this as I managed to get to his Wikipedia user page directly from STUFF without having seen the discussion here, and saw he was ranting about our stifling rules and how the elders of the main wiki need to intervene in this "daughter" wiki. So I left Kef a note and I think he managed to calm him down. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 11:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:I know you're trying to talk about me like I'm not here, but if you want to be understood you should use fewer pronouns. -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil_Bond|Phil Bond]] 11:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::Phil: The main reason I see for a STUFF page is that there are quite a few instances (especially in the HR universe) where many people have many different opinions about what constitutes a valid reference. Personally, I like having STUFF around - it's a good way to resolve, once and for all, whether a proposed reference is acceptable, and most of the time STUFF is used on references that are arguably coincidence, or about things that are (usually) not noteworthy (like a particular sound effect occurring in other toons). It's not used for everything, and I don't see anything about it that's "stifling" or otherwise detrimental to the wiki. In fact, I think it serves a very good purpose here - in many ways, it helps to keep the wiki running smoothly, so we don't end up in incessant "revert wars" because two or more people disagree on a particular item. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:11, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
On Wikipedia, there are many experts in the relevant fields, so on matters of fact it is possible to mostly listen to the experts, and determine results by consensus. Unfortunately this wiki doesn't deal with such issues. This isn't rocket surgery, it's a fan site. As such, matters of fact rarely come into it, and when they do they're usually solved quickly (and closed early if this happens in STUFF). Just check out [[Talk:Main Page 6#Harp or Lyre?|Talk:Main Page 6 → Harp or Lyre?]] for an example of a discussion about facts that ended very quickly and evolved into an out-punning contest. Unfortunately most of what we see are value conflicts – what constitutes a valid reference, as Kiefer mentioned, whether something ''seems like'' a reference or a coincidence… few of these would be solved by discussion amongst your average sane person. And we're not your average sane person – many of the users here could be described (with no malice intended, I count myself in this group) as "fans", using the true meaning of the word, that is an shortening of ''fanatic''. If you think you can convince them in a value discussion and form a consensus, you should see some of the posts on the [[HRWiki:Old STUFF|pre-reform STUFF page]], which encouraged such discussion (as opposed to the current one, which tries to stifle it in favour of simply listing arguments) – take [[Talk:do over#Change of Pace (ACCEPTED)|Talk:do over → Change of Pace]], the mere mention of which gets at least one member of the community up in arms (please don't demonstrate here…). Incidentally, even Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:WP:VfD|WP:VfD]] for when values clash too much, so don't say that they are against the wiki way. We just have it more often, because we have a higher percentage of value-based disagreements. (I'm in the middle of a philosophy course about the differences between a factual disagreement and a value conflict, so I get this stuff hammered into me every couple of days…) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:45, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
:BTW, Phil, if you'd like a specific example of how STUFF could really help WP, check out [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shadow_the_Hedgehog&action=history the edit history of the '''Shadow the Hedgehog'''] article — particularly in the edit/revert war between an IP address and Xino. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:49, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

::Honestly, everybody, since going on this little crusade, I've (finally) figured out for myself that this whole wiki is necessarily seperate due to the behavior that the subject matter engenders, and I'm sorry I came barging in like I knew better, without experience in comedically-themed wikis. As I told Kef I would be, I'm a little embarrassed about that. It's sad, because some material that should be included in an encyclopedia of significant facts seems to get left by the wayside, and I wonder what other real references never get cataloged because they're voted down. The root of my energy on the subject is that the kernel of information that got this all started seems like such a plain fact. I don't know how anyone, let alone a majority, could think otherwise. It's baffling, and it makes me think the system doesn't work. I can't help but notice that most of the participants in this discussion haven't voted, but with how politicized it's gotten, and how juvenile some users seem to be, I no-longer have faith that it'd be a vote on the subject anyway. Looks like I can't win. -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil Bond|Phil Bond]] 07:14, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:::Actually, having overseen several hundred of these STUFF items under the current system, I can say that it works quite well for our wiki. Looking over the closed ones, I would be hard-pressed to find even one where I wasn't completely confident that the final vote represented the overall consensus of our users. You seem to be basing your opinion primarily on this one fact that you are 100-percent sure about. Well, not everyone shares your opinion—I for one am not so sure about it. Maybe it's true and maybe it isn't, but we shouldn't give it the weight of listing it on the article unless most of us think that it belongs there. We ''tend'' to disallow potential references that are more of a stretch or are more obscure (although not always) unless they are somehow confirmed by TBC. I'm comfortable with that, because the articles should contain a minimum of outright speculation. Incidentally, it's not even like these declined facts disappear... they are archived on the talk page where all who wish to dig deeper can see them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:50, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Do TBC often interact with the Wiki? -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil Bond|Phil Bond]]

:::::Not directly. They use the site occasionally as a reference, and make references to it in passing (in commentaries, interviews and the like), and occasionally they'll answer questions we're wondering about, by saying something in a commentary, or making the QotW a hard-to-transcribe line (though whether this is intended to directly help us is debatable)... but they haven't made any direct contributions, to the best of our knowledge (they certainly haven't announced themselves, if they do). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:41, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::::::I've thought, what if they submitted a reference they actually know they used, and we STUFFed and declined it? Fact is, unless we get it from the horse's mouth, our references are simply our best guess by consensus. There have been times a reference we knew was true turned out to be different and vice versa, I'm sure.(The Reading Rampage comes to mind.) So long as we're honest with ourselves about how we do it, we're cool. But we can't pretend to say that each reference we list was definitely on TBC's mind, nor can we say we've caught each one that was. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::::::They did make a generous financial donation a while ago. [[User:Evil Jim|Evil Jim]]

::::Having begun this whole fiasco in the first place with my sighting of the Re-Animator reference & watching it progress into a debate over its validity on the Stuff page as well as an involved discussion about the foundations of the HRWiki here I feel responsible to comment again. I've learned a lot about the Wiki & what goes on behind its glut of searchable information in the short period since my first attempted edit. It's not the best way for a newbie to learn the ropes but I won't let it discourage me. I will still continue to watch & edit & help make the Wiki the definitive resource for H*R fans everywhere.

::::But if the Brothers Chaps do happen to mention Re-Animator & confirm it as inspiration for elements of this email on some future DVD commentary or interview I officially reserve the right to have the last laugh & ask to be allowed to make the addition to the Real-World References on to this page. Either way, I remain your comrade in arms. [[User:Evil Jim|Evil Jim]]

:::::If this item is ever confirmed by TBC (a big ''if''), I doubt anyone will sit around waiting for anyone else to add it (piranha attacking a cow would be a good visual metaphor for how things get added around here). I guess you can have the last laugh if you really want it, but that's largely unnecessary, given that we know our limitations. We are well aware that a lot of the information on the articles, in particular in the references sections, is ''likely'' but not certain. Information that is likely to be true is not ''necessarily'' true, just as that which is unlikely is not necessarily false, but we've got to start somewhere and relative likelihood seems to be the standard of proof we have agreed on. Each of us has our own definition of what is likely true, and thus debates continue, but we don't pretend that we get it right all of the time (TBC have actually stated that they are amused by several of the inaccuracies on the pages, usually found in real-world references sections). When we get better information, we change it. Simple as that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::::::I only intend to have the last laugh in a good natured way. I do realize that it may very well be a very convincing coincidence & I look forward to finding the truth from TBC if only to confirm or deny once & for all my initial suspicions. I'll probably be the only one waiting for this, but that's why people have watchlists. [[User:Evil Jim|Evil Jim]]

== Dizzy, anyone? ==

I've always thougth that SB's head looks like good old egg Dizzy (main character of adventure game starting off at 8-bits). He had even boxing floating boxing gloves and shoes (rayman-like, except rayman is much younger). But now when he says that "My head would probably get pretty dizzy just rollin' around all the time", I see this as a real-world reference to the Dizzy, who used somersault as jump, which happened all the time. [[User:Analytik|Analytik]] 20:49, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:I tink it's just a referenceto normal eggs. In fact, that maks it barely a reference at all, since it's really not that specific. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:57, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:The head rolling for transportation is also reminiscent of Weebl and Bob (http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/archives.php), another high-volume online comic. However, one might argue that he would have had a hankering for pie and not breads. [[User:Tirian|Tirian]] 05:09, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
== Bosomest of Buddies ==

Hi, i tried to edit the real-world references to say that the term "bosomest of buddies" comes from the 1980 TV show "Bosom Buddies" starring Tom Hanks and Peter Scolari, and I got it up, but it was soon deleted. Why? It's true!
:It's a common phrase, not a reference to anything specific. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Why not a reference to the Cole Porter song? Or - better yet - why not just a use of a common phrase in English, making it not very remarkable after all. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:43, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:Come on, really. The TV show. It's a reference. The phrase has become common thanks to Tom and Peter.
::Really. Look up the song from the show <strike>"Anything Goes" by Porter</strike> Mame. (Oops, wrong show.) This has been a common phrase for at least a century. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
The title of the tv show is *itself* a reference to the common phrase. Just like the song in Mame. No reference![[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

== Cornbread ==

Does anybody think that Homestar selling cornbread could be related to Bubs calling himself Cornbread in A Decemberween Pageant.
:No. Cornbread is a common food. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:27, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:Do you think Strong Bad's saying that he needs muscle is a reference to the [[Homestarloween Party]], in which Bubs said the car had muscle? If you answered yes to that question, I recommend a tour through [[STUFF]]. It would be instructive. Seriously, it's just cornbread. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]]
I didn't see this one, but on the bread thingy up above, I noted two other cornbread references. Is the third time the charm? (Find out next week! Same bat time, same bat place.)[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

*No way is this a reference. Has no one else ever been to a restaurant where they actually serve tiny breads? A very common one is a little cornbread that is kinda shaped like a flattened football. Maybe they are trying to make it look like a cob of corn. I don't know. But still, small loafs of cornbread are probably the most common type of tiny bread, in my experience. --[[User:Racerx is Alive|racerx_is_alive]] 18:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

**Well, yes, cornbread does exist (and is in fact mildly delicious) but the issue is that TBC like to mention Cornbread a lot. It could be once, twice, three times a running gag! [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

No cornbread? A restaurant near me always serves cornbread with breakfast, and it has those little colored sprinkles in it. That's what the bread in the box looks like to me.

== 'Doom' reference? ==

Flying Head Bad seems to bear a strong resemblance to the Lost Souls from the Doom video game series. Unfortunately, I'm not sure this is worthy of be added.

I'm starting to think that the doom references are becoming a running gag. I seriously think its worthy. -Cyberdemon

:The shrieking heads in Doom fly by themselves. Strong Bad first features some sort of visible anti-gravity device, then the flaming exhausts. I can't see a clear link, despite that both are surrounded by flames somehow. By the way, what other Doom references do you mean? Bubs' shotgun in [[virus]]? --[[User:PoweredByHomsar|PoweredByHomsar]] 02:35, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
::[[secret_identity|strongbad_email.wad]], though I don't see this as a running gag just yet. -[[User:YK|YK]] 09:25, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

The lost souls actually do have rocket boosters stuck in the back of them. This might be a reference. {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}} 00:38, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, I think that's just the Doom 3 ones. The originals are just plain demonic. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 12:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== THX ==

Perhaps those repulsorlift rings are more common than I realize, but did anyone else think of the robot guy with the jetpack in the THX commercial with the cows? I did. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:52, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:Not before thinking of [[Wikipedia:The_Jetsons|The Jetsons]]. Those repulsing rings are pretty much cartoon vernacular by now, just like anvils and giant mallets, though less common. I don't think using an idea or a convention established by someone else necessarily counts a reference, but if you're going to make a reference, at least reference the classic. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]]

== Municipality ==

Why is the KOT's, ahem, "government", referring to Free Country as a ''municipality'', going out of its way to use that exact word? [[Free_Country%2C_USA#Politics|You don't think...]] --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 23:55, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
*Because he's the King of Town. A town is a Municipality. The KOT probably isn't the King of all of Free Country, or Free Country is just one town. -[[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]]

== BIIIG Brother is watching you ==
Not trying to imply any connection, but I just wanted to mention that the Easter egg poster made me think of the poster described in the [first few paragraphs of ''1984'' http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/1/]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:14, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:''pssssst...'' See the STUFF for this toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::Heh—yeah, I hadn't. Interesting. (Though for me what triggered the connection was not the slogan but the ''fact'' that it was a poster.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:21, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I so got the Ninteen-Eighty Four vibe, no doubt about it. The stormtrooper guards? The urge to support the society? The overall totalitarian feel? The ''we're watching you'' bit? And, of course, the moustache seals it. [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Might have something to do with the upcoming film ''V for Vendetta''. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 18:12, 14 Mar 2006 (PST)

== Egghead? ==

I might just be weird, but I think Homestar says "Headman" to the career advice head, rather than "Eggman."[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

:Wow. I am ''never'' trusting your ears again. :P {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:08, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I listened some more... Now I hear it. It was just that the E in egg sounded like it had a dropped H, and the G was pretty soft... whatever, I'm better now! [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

==sunglasses and drink==
the shading in stronghead's drink is opposite of that in his sunglasses. looks cool. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:22, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

==ghoul girl==
while homestar's speech impedement is most likely the reason hes says "put some meat on the bones, girl", it is also interesting that it sound like ghoul when he is talking to a disembodied head... {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:22, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

== ham head ==

something was bugging me about strongbody, and i finally figured it out, the bone sticking up out of his neck would only make sense if it was coming out of a major limb, ie a leg, or in this case, a ham... it looks nothing like a vertabrae.. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Cartoons always do that to headless bodies. [[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]]

== RuneScape ==

I know that this may be the biggest strecth you've ever heard/seen, but to anyone who has ever played [http://www.runescape.com RuneScape], please answer this question: '''Does the sound of the riot rocks hitting The Poopsmith's shield sound like the sound of a sword hitting someone in Runescape?''' Maybe I'm just hearing things, but I think it does. I immediately thought of RuneScape when I heard that sound. I know, I know, It's probably just a coincidence, it's probably just a generic sound effect, but I couldn't help mentioning the similarity. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 meh. i dont think so. the rock have a distinctly 'tinny' sound, like an old timey clicky oil dispenser. {{User:Csours/sig}} 18:06, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

The sound effect of Strong Bad typing is a reference to Finding Forrester, where Jamal Wallace makes a similar sound when he is typing. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]]

I play RuneScape, like 75% of the time in my life. Problem is, I don't have sound effects. On my friends computer, though it does, it very much does sound like that. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 17:12, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

== Stone Appearing In The Wrong Place ==

If you look really closely on Strong Body's hand when he is throwing the rocks, the rock appears in his hand not after it passes the bucket of ammo, but after it passes under his legs. The rock is magically in his hand after it passes the wrong place. Goof, possibly? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 22:14, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:I noticed that as well. He doesn't really grab it out of the bucket. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:20, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

== Eggman ==

I was about to add in the Sonic Reference when I saw the tag at the end of the section. But does anybody think it's worth mentioning the use of "Eggman" in the [[Wikipedia:The_Beatles|Beatles]] song "[[Wikipedia:I am the Walrus|I am the Walrus]]"? It's probably better known to more people. {{User:Taco Salad of My Dreams/sig}} 22:25, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:That's even more of a stretch. At least the Sonic ref has more than a similar word going for it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:31, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::Qermaq, even though the song is called "I am the Walrus", it contains the phrase "I am the eggman" in the chorus ([http://beatles-lyrics.org/magical_mystery_tour/i_am_the_walrus link]). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:09, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh, I'm quite aware of the song and its lyrics. Again, I noted that the Sonic reference has more going for it than mention of a single word. I mean, The Eggman is a character in John Waters' "Pink Flamingoes", is that a reference too? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Of course! ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:10, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
I think it is a Sonic refference because it says on the Sonic website that Eggman is shaped like an egg.--[[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82]] 17:53, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

:TS, I thought of the Beatles song too when I heard the phrase "Eggman." I think it's a stretch to call it an overt reference though. At least it'll be archived on this talk page now. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

::Being as notoriously old-school as TBC is, I think they might still be calling Eggman by his US name, Robotnik. --[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 02:03, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Personally, I would be, even though it is just my personal preference that Robotnik sounds more evil than Eggman. I mean what kind of self-respecting evil genius makes his nickname Eggman? --[[User:Troggie|Troggie]] 00:01, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Apparently "Eggman" was a nickname given to him by Sonic 'n' friends, and not exactly an endearing one at that. Thus making it even more unlikely that Robotnik would take on the name. Eh, maybe I'm just an irredeemable Mega Drive Sonic fanboy. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 12:21, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Dr. Eggman was named after the lyric in the Beatles' song. Also, isn't it suspicious how Homestar called Strongbad's head "eggman" in the exact same moment when the Municipality logo is shown. The Municipality logo (which is the head of the King of Town) seems to be attributed to Dr. Eggman's logo, right down to the lined teeth. Dr. Eggman's logo is mostly used in the Sonic Advance series, and in Sonic Rush. I think it also is shown in the anime Sonic X. -GT Koopa March 21, 2006

Wow... good point. I didn't realize that his logo looks so much like that...and I have the wallpaper up too. And by the way, in Sonic Adventure, Sonic makes fun of Robotnik, calling him Eggman. That's how he got the name in the US... -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 23:45, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Dr. Eggman was named Eggman with no intention of refferencing the Beetles song.--[[User:209.158.179.116|209.158.179.116]] 18:34, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

== burnout ==

The comment that mentions that it is not possible for a head without tires to perform a burnout is just a bit ridiculous. I mean, I guess it is commonplace to see a flying head with firing headers, but OMG if that flying head performs a burnout while flying in mid air!
:Heh. You've got a point. Del taco'd! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:44, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
:I was thinking the same thing in [[pop-up]], facts mentioning that specific tabs that wouldn't work in a real paper book... seriously, so many of the things wouldn't work as part of a pop-up book, and that's the joke... Luckily noone mentioned that spontaneously appearing burgers aren't real... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:13, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
::Realize this: Strong Bad's head wouldn't float anyhow because he doesn't have anything to lift him from the ground while he's flying everywhere. --[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 02:05, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Lol, yeah - SB dropped the repulsorlift which got him into the air for the headers attached to his head which got him around in the air, but he dropped the repulsorlift, so he shouldn't be floating anymore, but he is, cause this is a cartoon. :P --[[User:Troggie|Troggie]] 23:58, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Maybe he just has [[Lack of Visible Arms|invisible arms or legs]] holding him up off the ground. ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:43, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Or just invisible fingers. Wait. That's stupid. -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 00:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

== Choppy email ==

Grr...My computer's fixed, and now the emails are choppy! They're less funny when you can't see what's going on...--[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 02:07, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

==The Punisher==

I believe that the KOT logo on the poster for The Municipality is based on that of The Punisher.
:Well, whoever you are, check the Eggman section. Someone thinks that the KOT's symbol looks like Dr. Robot...er, Eggman. I think it's best that you:
*sign your name.
*go argue with him 'till it hurts.
-[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 21:36, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== ReReReReAnimator ===
{{stufffact|The "low-to-no-budget horror film" Regenerator 4 is a reference to the cult classic B-Movie series [[Wikipedia:Re-Animator|ReAnimator]]. The ReAnimator series had three installments, and featured a disembodied head continuing to live, commanding its body, and grafting utilitarian appendages onto itself.}}
{{stuffverdict|06:50, 1 April 2006 (UTC)|22:47, 16 April 2006 (UTC)|declined|15|12|disconnected}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Jim Henson's STUFF Shop ===
{{stufffact|"Creature Shop" might as well be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Jim Henson's Creature Shop|Jim Henson's Creature Shop]], which makes many animatronic and puppet characters.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)|02:41, 29 March 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined|9|0|disconnected}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== The bosomest of buddies ===
{{stufffact|The phrase "my head and body are normally the bosomest of buddies" is a reference to the 1980s TV show [[Wikipedia:Bosom_Buddies|Bosom Buddies]] starring [[Wikipedia:Tom_hanks|Tom Hanks]] and [[Wikipedia:Peter_Scolari|Peter Scolari]].}}
{{stuffverdict|09:43, 25 March 2006 (UTC)|02:41, 29 March 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined|15|0|disconnected}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== I am the Eggman? ===
{{stufffact|The KOT emblem is very similar to the [http://eggmanempire.com:81/forums/images/avatars/5477439a0b09a4bd7.png emblem] of [[Wikipedia:Doctor Eggman|Dr. Eggman]] from the [[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog series|Sonic the Hedgehog series]], perhaps not coincidentally in the same email in which Homestar calls Strong Bad "Eggman."}}
{{stuffverdict|22:02, 13 March 2006 (UTC)|21:48, 28 March 2006 (UTC)|declined|31|24|disconnected}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== I am the other Eggman ===
{{stufffact|"Eggman" refers to [[Wikipedia:Doctor Eggman|Dr. Eggman]] (grandson of [[Wikipedia:Gerald Robotnik|Gerald Robotnik]]), the main villain in the [[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog series|''Sonic the Hedgehog'' series]].}}
{{stuffverdict|22:47, 13 March 2006 (UTC)|07:39, 19 March 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|21|9|disconnected}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Thing Bad ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's regenerated "Head-nub" and "Nub-head" are very similar to certain forms of the Alien in John Carpenter's [[Wikipedia:The Thing|The Thing]].}}
{{stuffverdict|19:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)|07:39, 19 March 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|18|2|disconnected}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== V for validity ===
{{stufffact|The "We're Onto You" poster could be a reference to the similar propaganda "Big Brother Is Watching You" from the book ''[[Wikipedia:Ninteen Eighty-Four|Nineteen Eighty-Four]]''.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:47, 13 March 2006 (UTC)|07:39, 19 March 2006 (UTC)|revised and then overwhelmingly accepted|24|6|disconnected}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Egg Roll ===
{{stufffact|Just before Strong Bad's head gets his exhaust pipes, he rolls in the same way as the egg characters in the Flash animation [[Wikipedia:Weebl and Bob|Weebl and Bob]].}}
{{stuffverdict|19:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)|04:43, 15 March 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|20|2|disconnected}}

== Sleasy vs. "Seasy" ==

The current transcript refers to the "seasy" life as being a pun on sleasy. However, I just listened to the line several times and it's abundantly clear (at least to me) that Strong Bad's head says "sleasy". I'm going to fix the line if there aren't any objections. - QB
*Sorry, caught up with this topic after I'd already fixed it. He does say "sleazy" - no question about it. I'll post an OGG of the line if I need to. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

== Horror Film? ==

Couldn't the line "straight out of the creature shop of some low-to-no budget horror film" be referring to the movie [[Wikipedia: The Little Shop of Horrors|Little Shop of Horrors]]? I mean, I made the connection. [[User:ShadowIce|ShadowIce]] 20:24, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

== Rolling Head Style ==

The head rolling is very similar to that of Weebl and Bob. If someone more confident of their editing skills could put it in.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weebl_and_bob

A good example is the first episode, when Bob rolls in after the first line.
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/pie/
:Scroll up a little, and you'll see this has been STUFFed and declined (in fact, I'm the one who STUFFed it). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Todd's Saliva ==

This fact was removed, but I think it sounds pretty reasonable: the names are very similar, it's a well-known guy, and it fits the genre.
*Told Salliaveri may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Tom Savini|Tom Savini]], the special-effects wizard most noted for his work on [[Wikipedia:George A. Romero|George A. Romero]]'s ''Living Dead'' series.
Discuss. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 10:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:"Savini" and "Salliaveri" are not terribly similar besides a few common letters and a vague Italian ethnicity. It is as likely not a reference as it is a reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:18, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

== Why isn't Dr. Eggman in the "Real world references"? ==

That doesn't make sense! Why aren't the fact that Homestar calls Strong Bad "Eggman" and The King's symbol not used? I think two references makes it diservable to be in the "Real world references" part down at teh bottom. -Tizye96
:Please read the discussion at [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/disconnected]]. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:46, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Talk:disconnected

Evil Egg — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:15:44 GMT

Evil Egg: /* 'Doom' reference? */

==Twicely Fresh==
Does anyone else think that Bubs doesn't actually say the second "Twicely Fresh." I know it's hard to see if his lips are moving while he's moving his head around, but after watching it the first time, I watched it frame by frame and I belive that the second "Twicely Fresh" is an echo or something. Your thoughts? — [[User:DrWorm|DrWorm]] 02:16, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

==Running Time==
I timed this email just to check if the current one was right, and I got 3:10 at the end of [[The Paper]]'s descent. Do we go by when The Paper first comes down or when he finishes coming down? {{User:LePorello/sig}} 12:39, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:At the end of the email, including "waiting" easter eggs; meaning after The Paper has finished printing. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:21, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

==Half Life 2 reference==
The Poop Smith looks a lot like a combine metrocop in Half Life 2, Maybe that was a real world refrence! [[user:Masher101.|Masher101.]] 7:14AM, 13 March 2006

:Well, if you think it's a reference, go ahead and add it! I wouldn't know; I've never played Half Life 2. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:18, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:I doubt that this was intentional. Feel free to request for it to be [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF'd]]. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:21, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

::I thought he looked more like those things in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy movie. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:05, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:::[[Wikipedia:Races from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy#Vogons|Vogons]], you mean? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 18:34, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

::::Yes, that's what I'm thinking of. Especially the scenes with all of them in their suits with lasers on their chests. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:I agree, he looks a lot like a CP with a stunstick. ([http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Image:Metrocop_police.jpg Image]) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:49, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:I also agree, and I came to this page looking to see if anyone else had thought the same. He looks like one of those black Combine guys. [[User:24.222.225.198|24.222.225.198]] 00:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

:I agree as well. Definitely a combine cop.

::Although I haven't played Halflife, so I can't make a call there, what he looks like is someone in riot gear, including a gas mask. (Now, maybe they made the eyepiece red as a reference; like I say, I haven't seen it.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

:::I agree with AbdiViklas, it looks like any other quasi-scifi riot cop wearing a gas mask. A quick Google Images search turns up lots of Half-Life 2 [http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&q=metrocop&btnG=Search metrocops], but none of them have one or more red eyes, which pretty much knocks out any possibility of a direct reference for me. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 17:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

::::Personally, I thought it was a reference to the film [[Wikipedia:Jin-roh|Jin-Roh]], which would explain the red eyes. But maybe I'm just seeing things. [[User:70.246.134.61|70.246.134.61]] 01:34, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::I think it resembles a metrocop with the dark gear of a combine soldier and the red eyepiece of an elite soldier. - Lazor'd
::::::It looks nothing like a combine soldier or anything I've seen in Half Life 2. (I've played the whole game twice){{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:14, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

== "I hate your shoes" or "I think you're cute"? ==

I'm not sure what it is the mutant head bad is saying at the end, but it sounds far more like "I think you're cute" than "I hate your shoes". I could be wrong though. What do you alls think? --[[User:86.135.179.79|86.135.179.79]] 13:42, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:I hear "I think you're shoes", though it's most probably something else. I'm betting 100 pencil shavings that this is going to be the next Quote of the Week. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:48, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:I hear "I think you're cute!" I'm listening again to be sure, though. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
::I hear "shoes". {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 15:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I think you'e cute (with a chuckle) here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:56, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I heard "I like your shoes." Must just be me. {{User:Tom_Epsilon/sig}}
:::::Definitely "I think you're cute". I'm changing it. [[User:Qduk|Qduk]] 22:24, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::: I'm changing it back. No "Cute" here. I hear a very distinct "SH" sound. And, yeah, prime QoW material here. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I think this requires a more formal vote, as it's so clearly a "t" at the end for me. Agree? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:40, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Not me. I'm iffy on the "hate", but I'm pretty confident on "shoes". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:42, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I hear what you call a "sh" as an aspirated "k". Like he's gigling. Listen for that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Yeah. This would be exacerbated by the sound compression. Trust me, he says "I think you're cute". [[User:Qduk|Qduk]] 22:59, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::I definitely hear "Hate your shoes". Where's Keifer? He always helps with these... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::::::Sorry, I was off getting married. :) Missed my opportunity to contribute to this discussion. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:11, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
: I turned it up. I still hear no K and no T. And no KoT. The word is "shoes", and the more I listen to it, the more confident I am. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:36, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
::As did I. It is clear we will reach no concensus. I suggest a formal vote to determine which will be the transcript phraseology and which will be the footnote. If a QOTD comes out, we'll all win. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm a "I-hate-your-shoes" guy meslef, but it almost sounds as if he's saying "I ''lick'' your shoes." Or maybe it's ''hick'' your shoes? It kind of sounds different each time I hear it.[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:02, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:Just throwing this out there... why would Head Bad be giggling (it sounds like nervous giggling, 's'all) while insulting someone who is basically his other half's shoes? {{User:Tom_Epsilon/sig}} 01:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:: Uh, we have a vote way vvv down there. Check it out! No, seriously, check it out! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:09, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:: Okay, never mind, didn't see that you already voted. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Why would he be giggling? Maybe laughing at how stupid his shoes are, while commenting "I hate your shoes". {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

:For what it's worth, I definitely hear "I think you're cute." [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 04:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I just can't hear "cute". I hear "shoes". But at that, I can't hear "like" or "hate", either. "I think you're/your shoes" doesn't make sense at all. But then, some things [[Talk:highschool#Dialogue questions|just don't]], even when we reach a general consensus. -[[User:YK|YK]] 09:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
I hear "I like your shoes". {{User:Salty/sig}} 15:40, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
: So do I ... and this is one of the few suggestions that actually makes sense in context. A disembodied head rolling around on the ground is at "shoe level" ... and why would Strong Bad ''hate'' the shoes he obviously picked out himself? {{User:Bill/sig}} 20:31, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Would there be a way for me to upload an .ogg of the disputed quote slowed down? Because... I definately don't hear a "teh" sound at the end of the second word. It almost sounds like he's saying "I ''lake'' your shoes." :/ {{User:Tom_Epsilon/sig}} 19:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, or "I hake your shoes". Yeah, "I hake your shoes".
::That would make a heckofa lot of sense. It's going to be something sensible, I'm sure! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
=== Poll for the debated Head Bad quote ===
{{Audio|Shoes.ogg|Listen to the quote}}

Vote what you think Strong Bad's mutated head says:

'''I hate your shoes.'''
#{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:11, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
#--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]]
#{{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}}
#[[User:Jecowa|Jecowa]]
#[[User:Traveling Ham|Traveling Ham]]
#{{User:Venusy/Sig}}
#{{User:Trey56/sig}}
#[[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]]
#{{User:Taco Salad of My Dreams/sig}}
#[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]]
#[[User:Stux|Stux]]
#{{User:The Chort/sig}}
#{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:00, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:Troggie|Troggie]] 00:17, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
#{{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:13, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 00:11, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
#{{User:The Mu/sig}} 18:45, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:The Thecheatcute11/Thecheatcute11]] 17:51, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:InvaderJem/InvaderJem]]
#{{User:X66x66/sig}}
#[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]]
#-{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}}

'''I think you're cute.'''
#[[User:Qduk|Qduk]]
#{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:15, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
#{{User:NFITC1/sig}}
#[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]]
#[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]]
#[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
#[[User:Nicko9y|Nicko9y]] 23:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 07:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
#{{User:Phlip/sig}}
#{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:32, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
#{{User:Dacheatbot/sig}}
#[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
#[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]]
#— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 09:13, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
#{{User:FireBird/sig}} 14:16, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:Andyroid|Andyroid]]
#[[User:Octan|Octan]] 05:38, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:Gus|Gus]] 18:26, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
# anonymous
#[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:40, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
#{{User:S 2 da B/sig}}
#[[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 06:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
#[[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 7:23, July 25, 2007 (EST)

'''I like your shoes.'''
#{{User:Tom_Epsilon/sig}} 00:59, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
#{{User:Bill/sig}} 20:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:Headbad and strongbody|Headbad and strongbody]] 15:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
#{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:38, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
#[[User:Evan|Evan]]

'''I think you're shoes. (shoes could be huge)'''
#{{User:Csours/sig}} 05:34, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

'''I thank your shoes'''

#[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]]
#{{User:Joshua/sig}}

'''Can We Get An Easily Accessable .OGG Sound Clip First?'''
*done it{{User:Csours/sig}} 05:46, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
**How do you listen to .ogg files? (i.e., what program do you use?) Thanks, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:42, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
***See [[Sound Effects]] for help on this. Each ogg link there has a help link too. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:44, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
****Perfect -- thanks. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:49, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

*Just a note: the .ogg file cuts off the last "s" sound that you hear if you listen to the clip in the context of the toon. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:00, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
**No it doesn't. The ogg has the entire quote, nothing is cut off. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:04, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
***I have to disagree. Perhaps it's my media player (VLC), but I definitely hear an "s" sound at the end of the last word in the cartoon, but ''not'' in the sound clip. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:15, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
****I just checked. The ogg file is not great quality compard to the swf, but I am hering it all, right up to just before SB starts to type. Maybe your player isn't playing it all? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:25, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
*****You could be right, in which case I wonder if other users may be experiencing the same problem...anyway, thanks for checking. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:30, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
**In fact, this might account for some users' votes for options that don't have an "s" at the end. It might be helpful to upload a sound file that records a moment longer, even if I'm wrong (I would, but I'm pretty sure I don't have the right software). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:20, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
***Hmm. My vote was based on the swf itself. And the ogg simply strengthens my thought on this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:22, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
****I opened the .ogg file and the swf's soundtrack in Audacity and compared them - believe me when I say there is ''nothing'' after the ogg file except silence and Strong Bad's reaction. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:03, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like he's saying, "I thake your chute." That doesn't make sense so I voted otherwise. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 16:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::I swear, I keep hearing something different every time I listen to it. Because of that, I really can't place a fair vote here. -[[User:YK|YK]] 21:30, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Has anyone thought to email TBC and ask what he said there? I'm sure they'd tell us if they knew it was going on the wiki. But then again, they probably aren't sure either. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 04:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Given that I'm not aware of them ever clearing up our debate in [[do over]], I'm not sure that would necessarily work. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::I don't remember the debate in do over. You're pwobabwy wight anyway. I was a-hoping there. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 06:25, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
*It is *clear* he said shoes (you can hear the "sh" sound and the "s" sound at the beginning and end, respectively. The "ha" sound is quite evident; and even though the "t" sound is more subtle, it's still there. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:36, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
**Must not be ''too'' clear, as about half think it's the other one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:43, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Right. I can hear why people think it's said both ways. No kidding. Looks like this is a job for Stupid Uncle Egg's good time quote of the week. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:13, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Not this week, unfortunately. -[[User:YK|YK]] 00:45, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::I find that very surprising, given that we have the OGG recording. I played it *several* times (like 15-20) with my earphones, and they're just regular run-of-the-mill earphones, and I am quite certain I heard what I described, especially for the shoes part. So it kinda baffles me. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:54, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
I definitely hear "cute", but I hope I can contribute more. I was inspired by [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk's]] clarification of Homsar's "Pennzoil" quote back in [[Talk:Fall Float Parade#Tinfoil or Pennzoil?|the Thanksgiving toon]]. I sped up the quote by 33 percent, and I think it makes "cute" sound clearer. {{Audio|Cute.ogg|Take a listen}}. Furthermore, the quote, "I think you're cute," simply makes more sense than, "I hate your shoes." What's funny about hating someone's shoes? But the mutated head of Strong Bad hitting on his equally grotesque body? Now ''that's'' funny. It even plays on Strong Bad's narcissism. This one's definitely "cute".--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:15, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
:Arrgh. That just made it even more confusing for me. I still can't hear "cute", but sped up it now sounds like he's saying "I take your shoes!". Waaah. -[[User:YK|YK]] 06:25, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
::Listening to it speeded up slightly has convinced me that "you're cute" is right. Plus, it makes more sense in context. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 09:13, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I personally don't see how either one makes sense in context. For that matter, how "I would like to go to the store" makes contextual sense, but no one is contesting that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:25, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, I didn't say it makes good sense; I said it makes ''more'' sense. I think that a Strong Bad clone would be more likely to praise rather than criticize his other self. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 09:38, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

::::After listening to the clip many times, I think its "I like your shoes." Even more obvious than shoes vs cute is the "I like your" part; and, "I like your cute" doesn't make any sense. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:43, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Is the voting ever going to be over? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:25, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

== Strammy ==

Just for it to be noted somewhere: Stramy is a nick name for our beloved user [[User:Homestramy20|Homestramy]]. Coach Z said: "Old 'Strammy's gone and quit the runnin' business!" and our Stramy did leave for personal reasons. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:You don't think they're on to us, do you? -shifty eyes- - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:I'll repeat this; it's definitely a coincidence. Thanks for the notice, though, E.L. Cool. I'm sure Homestramy20 will enjoy it. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 18:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:I'd say it's somewhat from "A Jorb Well Done" — [[User:70.29.120.82|70.29.120.82]] 22:21, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, I agree. Strammy, as in Stramstar. AJWD all the way. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 23:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Agreed. Definitely coincidence, but I must admit, I thought of Homestramy, myself, when I heard it, despite not having been here for long. Heh. (I lurked for months before I finally registered and started posting/editting.) -[[User:YK|YK]] 09:40, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

== Panera Bread ==

mmmm
make sure to try their sierra turkey and i.c cappuchino blended ice coffee drink

anyone else ever been?

hmm, my security verify posting coat is deffbo, that gives me a idea for a weightloss to cRAPPY music thingy

:It literally took me like five minutes to parse the last sentence above. For those five minutes I was sure it was computer-generated gibberish like the kind you sometimes find in spam. No offense.— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 16:26, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

::What ''does'' it mean? {{User:Granola/sig}} 17:41, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Rough translation: "The CAPTCHA code I was required to enter in order to post this anonymous comment was 'deffbo,' which gives me an idea for a fitness video a la Tae Bo but with crappy music." — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 00:20, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::: im so confused, i thought def meant good??!{{User:Csours/sig}} 05:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::What on Earth does "deffbo" mean?? {{User:Granola/sig}} 05:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::It doesn't mean anything. The way the anon used it was one of those goofy combined words (deaf and Tae Bo?). As for where it came from, when you make an anonymous edit, you have to type in letters randomly generated in a blurry image in order for it to appear. The reason for this is because humans can generally read the letters, but computers can't, so this should help weed out spambots/vandal bots. -[[User:YK|YK]] 09:39, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Ohh, I see, deffbo was the code that time; I was thinking the anon had ''described'' it as "deffbo". {{User:Granola/sig}} 15:18, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

== "Hope I can find my local..." ==

Listening to Strong Bad's last line in the e-mail, I keep hearing him saying "''Hope I can find my local '''bunman'''...''", whereas the transcript currently shows "''Hope I can find my local '''bunmaker'''...''" Can anyone else lend their ears and offer their opinion on what he's saying? It was reverted out of this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=disconnected&oldid=285233] revision, so I just want some sort of consensus before changing th transcript. [[User:63.166.226.115|63.166.226.115]] 16:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:Def "bunman". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:54, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:: I had my sound low-ish when I transcribed, so as not to disturb my neighbors. If I made any mistakes, that's the reason. Just defending myself is all. ;) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:30, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I can clearly hear bunman not bunmaker. --{{User:Antispam}} 17:15, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

== J-J-J-Jenny and The Bets ==

The way Strong bad said "Jenny" reminded me of the song, ''Benny and The Jets'' by [[Wikipedia:Elton_John|Elton John]]. Anybody else think this justifies a real world reference? [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]]
:Not me, seems a stretch. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
::When I heard him, I was thinking of the song "867-5309 (Jenny)" by Tommy Tutone. Then again, maybe someone who has actually heard that song can confirm or deny it. - Andyroid
:::Definitely not that song. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:40, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
::::agree that its not that song, also the first jenny sounds like forrest gumps' jenny. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:11, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

== A Million Yards? ==

Nobody has mentioned that 1 million yards = 3 million feet (1 yard = 3 feet right?) = 568.18 miles (1 mile = 5280 feet). You can take it from here (like by saying at 60 MPH it would take 9 hrs to complete, 90 hrs at 6MPH, 52 mins at speed of sound (at air i think it's 676MPH), and for light... well, 1.89 milliseconds). I'm still on wikivacation though. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:21, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:I'd think SB just called it that in exaggeration. No other character or signage does. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:29, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

== Is Homestar's bread fixation becoming a running gag? ==

He not only has held Bread Sing-alongs (in Origins), but has also tried to pass off "Moldy Bread, Guys" as Cheat-cakes (in Do-Over). -SomeoneWhoHasn'tCreatedAnAccontYet
:Maybe. There is circumstantial evidence that [[helium|he only eats pork and beans]]. Then again, we haven't seen him try to eat bread. I wonder if we could tie this in with [[Stinkoman|Stinkoman's]] love of bread.
This is the third or fourth mention of cornbread- "Pawkheegan/Cornbread hour", "Mine name Cornbread"... and one other I can't think of. Running Gag'd?[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 04:47, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:I'm inclined to agree with this being a Running Gag (even though Homestar didn't say Mine name Cornbread- that was Bubs.) --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 02:06, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, but it's TBC's third mention of Cornbread. I was so sure there was another one, but it escapes me. Oh well! [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
Actually, Homestar has been seen eating bread- remember the light bulb sammich?-[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 00:45, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Anyway, I think that the pork & bean comment in Helium was just Homestar being clueless. {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}} 00:33, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== Re-Animator Real-world reference ==

I believe "Regenerator" is a real-world reference to the low-to-no budget horror film "Re-animator," based off the works of H.P. Lovecraft. This is probably worth a brief reference on the page for this e-mail.

[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089885/ IMDB link to "Re-Animator"]

Hi, I've been lurking for many months but this is my first attempt at actually working with Wiki. {{unsigned|Evil Jim|19:24, March 13, 2006 (UTC)}}

That's pretty likely, since "bad guy" in Re-animator has his head cut off and does all sorts of crazy things. -- Crowther 00:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Coincidentally (or perhaps not), we are told that SB's film is called "Regenerator 4" and there are currently three Re-Animator films.

:ReAnimator and Regenerator? That's about as coincidental as you get. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:57, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

::The phonetic resemblance is plain to see, the number of existing sequels lines up, and the parallel details between Reanimator and the events of the e-mail seal the deal. Both feature a disembodied head with strange appendages. This is an obvoius ReAnimator reference. [[Wikipedia:User:Phil Bond|Phil Bond]] 06:34, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

=== The HRWiki is not Wikipedia ===
:::[[STUFF]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:47, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
:::What you're saying is that the Homestar Wiki is a democracy where ignorant people can trump people with obscure yet correct information. I found that dismaying, and was feeling disenfranchised about the whole Wiki notion until I found this on the real Wikipedia:

:::'''Wikipedia is not a democracy'''
:::Wikipedia is not an experiment in democracy. Its primary method of finding consensus is discussion, not voting. In difficult cases, straw polls may be conducted to help determine consensus, but are to be used with caution and not to be treated as binding votes. Suggestions that Wikipedia use the latest fancy transferable vote system for some election or another will likely be met with disdain, at best. --[[wikipedia:WP:WWIN|What Wikipedia is Not]]

:::Perhaps I should stick to working there, where they [[Wikipedia:WP:BITE|don't bite the newcomers]]. To anyone who subscribes to this "[[STUFF]]" notion, I recommend you read "[[Wikipedia:Why Wikipedia is so great|Why Wikipedia is so great]]." -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil_Bond|Phil Bond]] 06:53, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Well.... we're not Wikipedia. {{User:Salty/sig}} 07:02, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::And that's why you're not so great. -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil_Bond|Phil Bond]] 07:17, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

::::::We also don't take [[Wikipedia:Internet sock puppet|sock puppet accounts]] very lightly, just like [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Sock puppetry|Wikipedia doesn't]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:25, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::If you'll click my name and check my contributions, you'll see I'm a vigorous contributor to Wikipedia. The guy who started this Re-Animator issue is a friend of mine who's never contributed to Wiki before, but wanted to help when he found a reference within his realm of expertise. I reassured him that Wiki is an organic, participation-required medium where if you have something to contribute: you can in good faith do so, and not worry about stepping on anyone's toes. But now I'm finding that the HR version of Wiki is a Wiki in name only, where everything is subject to approval by committee? Why use the Wiki name and engine, then? Why not run on a form submission model like IMDB? [[HRWiki:Introduction|Is this whole page just an artifact?]] Is anyone going to discuss these points with me, or am I just going to be met with juvenile brevity and conspiracy theories? Should I take it to the discussion page of STUFF itself? -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil_Bond|Phil Bond]] 08:08, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::::Okay, I've pored over your "STUFF" policy, and though it still rubs me the wrong way, it might not be as bad as it seems at first glance. I hope I'm correct to understand that not every single contribution to HRWiki is subjected to this procedure, but that it's a dispute resolution technique. So, trying to do as the Romans do, I've elaborated on the STUFF section for this topic. I hope those on the "against" side agree with a slight rephrasing of their points. I even added an arguement against, in counterpoint to a new arguement for. -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil_Bond|Phil Bond]] 10:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

So as not to potentially leave anybody hanging: I figured [[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]] might be the best person to handle this as I managed to get to his Wikipedia user page directly from STUFF without having seen the discussion here, and saw he was ranting about our stifling rules and how the elders of the main wiki need to intervene in this "daughter" wiki. So I left Kef a note and I think he managed to calm him down. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 11:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
:I know you're trying to talk about me like I'm not here, but if you want to be understood you should use fewer pronouns. -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil_Bond|Phil Bond]] 11:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::Phil: The main reason I see for a STUFF page is that there are quite a few instances (especially in the HR universe) where many people have many different opinions about what constitutes a valid reference. Personally, I like having STUFF around - it's a good way to resolve, once and for all, whether a proposed reference is acceptable, and most of the time STUFF is used on references that are arguably coincidence, or about things that are (usually) not noteworthy (like a particular sound effect occurring in other toons). It's not used for everything, and I don't see anything about it that's "stifling" or otherwise detrimental to the wiki. In fact, I think it serves a very good purpose here - in many ways, it helps to keep the wiki running smoothly, so we don't end up in incessant "revert wars" because two or more people disagree on a particular item. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:11, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
On Wikipedia, there are many experts in the relevant fields, so on matters of fact it is possible to mostly listen to the experts, and determine results by consensus. Unfortunately this wiki doesn't deal with such issues. This isn't rocket surgery, it's a fan site. As such, matters of fact rarely come into it, and when they do they're usually solved quickly (and closed early if this happens in STUFF). Just check out [[Talk:Main Page 6#Harp or Lyre?|Talk:Main Page 6 → Harp or Lyre?]] for an example of a discussion about facts that ended very quickly and evolved into an out-punning contest. Unfortunately most of what we see are value conflicts – what constitutes a valid reference, as Kiefer mentioned, whether something ''seems like'' a reference or a coincidence… few of these would be solved by discussion amongst your average sane person. And we're not your average sane person – many of the users here could be described (with no malice intended, I count myself in this group) as "fans", using the true meaning of the word, that is an shortening of ''fanatic''. If you think you can convince them in a value discussion and form a consensus, you should see some of the posts on the [[HRWiki:Old STUFF|pre-reform STUFF page]], which encouraged such discussion (as opposed to the current one, which tries to stifle it in favour of simply listing arguments) – take [[Talk:do over#Change of Pace (ACCEPTED)|Talk:do over → Change of Pace]], the mere mention of which gets at least one member of the community up in arms (please don't demonstrate here…). Incidentally, even Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:WP:VfD|WP:VfD]] for when values clash too much, so don't say that they are against the wiki way. We just have it more often, because we have a higher percentage of value-based disagreements. (I'm in the middle of a philosophy course about the differences between a factual disagreement and a value conflict, so I get this stuff hammered into me every couple of days…) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:45, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
:BTW, Phil, if you'd like a specific example of how STUFF could really help WP, check out [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shadow_the_Hedgehog&action=history the edit history of the '''Shadow the Hedgehog'''] article — particularly in the edit/revert war between an IP address and Xino. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:49, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

::Honestly, everybody, since going on this little crusade, I've (finally) figured out for myself that this whole wiki is necessarily seperate due to the behavior that the subject matter engenders, and I'm sorry I came barging in like I knew better, without experience in comedically-themed wikis. As I told Kef I would be, I'm a little embarrassed about that. It's sad, because some material that should be included in an encyclopedia of significant facts seems to get left by the wayside, and I wonder what other real references never get cataloged because they're voted down. The root of my energy on the subject is that the kernel of information that got this all started seems like such a plain fact. I don't know how anyone, let alone a majority, could think otherwise. It's baffling, and it makes me think the system doesn't work. I can't help but notice that most of the participants in this discussion haven't voted, but with how politicized it's gotten, and how juvenile some users seem to be, I no-longer have faith that it'd be a vote on the subject anyway. Looks like I can't win. -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil Bond|Phil Bond]] 07:14, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

:::Actually, having overseen several hundred of these STUFF items under the current system, I can say that it works quite well for our wiki. Looking over the closed ones, I would be hard-pressed to find even one where I wasn't completely confident that the final vote represented the overall consensus of our users. You seem to be basing your opinion primarily on this one fact that you are 100-percent sure about. Well, not everyone shares your opinion—I for one am not so sure about it. Maybe it's true and maybe it isn't, but we shouldn't give it the weight of listing it on the article unless most of us think that it belongs there. We ''tend'' to disallow potential references that are more of a stretch or are more obscure (although not always) unless they are somehow confirmed by TBC. I'm comfortable with that, because the articles should contain a minimum of outright speculation. Incidentally, it's not even like these declined facts disappear... they are archived on the talk page where all who wish to dig deeper can see them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:50, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Do TBC often interact with the Wiki? -[[Wikipedia:User:Phil Bond|Phil Bond]]

:::::Not directly. They use the site occasionally as a reference, and make references to it in passing (in commentaries, interviews and the like), and occasionally they'll answer questions we're wondering about, by saying something in a commentary, or making the QotW a hard-to-transcribe line (though whether this is intended to directly help us is debatable)... but they haven't made any direct contributions, to the best of our knowledge (they certainly haven't announced themselves, if they do). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:41, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::::::I've thought, what if they submitted a reference they actually know they used, and we STUFFed and declined it? Fact is, unless we get it from the horse's mouth, our references are simply our best guess by consensus. There have been times a reference we knew was true turned out to be different and vice versa, I'm sure.(The Reading Rampage comes to mind.) So long as we're honest with ourselves about how we do it, we're cool. But we can't pretend to say that each reference we list was definitely on TBC's mind, nor can we say we've caught each one that was. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::::::They did make a generous financial donation a while ago. [[User:Evil Jim|Evil Jim]]

::::Having begun this whole fiasco in the first place with my sighting of the Re-Animator reference & watching it progress into a debate over its validity on the Stuff page as well as an involved discussion about the foundations of the HRWiki here I feel responsible to comment again. I've learned a lot about the Wiki & what goes on behind its glut of searchable information in the short period since my first attempted edit. It's not the best way for a newbie to learn the ropes but I won't let it discourage me. I will still continue to watch & edit & help make the Wiki the definitive resource for H*R fans everywhere.

::::But if the Brothers Chaps do happen to mention Re-Animator & confirm it as inspiration for elements of this email on some future DVD commentary or interview I officially reserve the right to have the last laugh & ask to be allowed to make the addition to the Real-World References on to this page. Either way, I remain your comrade in arms. [[User:Evil Jim|Evil Jim]]

:::::If this item is ever confirmed by TBC (a big ''if''), I doubt anyone will sit around waiting for anyone else to add it (piranha attacking a cow would be a good visual metaphor for how things get added around here). I guess you can have the last laugh if you really want it, but that's largely unnecessary, given that we know our limitations. We are well aware that a lot of the information on the articles, in particular in the references sections, is ''likely'' but not certain. Information that is likely to be true is not ''necessarily'' true, just as that which is unlikely is not necessarily false, but we've got to start somewhere and relative likelihood seems to be the standard of proof we have agreed on. Each of us has our own definition of what is likely true, and thus debates continue, but we don't pretend that we get it right all of the time (TBC have actually stated that they are amused by several of the inaccuracies on the pages, usually found in real-world references sections). When we get better information, we change it. Simple as that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

::::::I only intend to have the last laugh in a good natured way. I do realize that it may very well be a very convincing coincidence & I look forward to finding the truth from TBC if only to confirm or deny once & for all my initial suspicions. I'll probably be the only one waiting for this, but that's why people have watchlists. [[User:Evil Jim|Evil Jim]]

== Dizzy, anyone? ==

I've always thougth that SB's head looks like good old egg Dizzy (main character of adventure game starting off at 8-bits). He had even boxing floating boxing gloves and shoes (rayman-like, except rayman is much younger). But now when he says that "My head would probably get pretty dizzy just rollin' around all the time", I see this as a real-world reference to the Dizzy, who used somersault as jump, which happened all the time. [[User:Analytik|Analytik]] 20:49, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:I tink it's just a referenceto normal eggs. In fact, that maks it barely a reference at all, since it's really not that specific. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:57, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:The head rolling for transportation is also reminiscent of Weebl and Bob (http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/archives.php), another high-volume online comic. However, one might argue that he would have had a hankering for pie and not breads. [[User:Tirian|Tirian]] 05:09, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
== Bosomest of Buddies ==

Hi, i tried to edit the real-world references to say that the term "bosomest of buddies" comes from the 1980 TV show "Bosom Buddies" starring Tom Hanks and Peter Scolari, and I got it up, but it was soon deleted. Why? It's true!
:It's a common phrase, not a reference to anything specific. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Why not a reference to the Cole Porter song? Or - better yet - why not just a use of a common phrase in English, making it not very remarkable after all. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:43, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:Come on, really. The TV show. It's a reference. The phrase has become common thanks to Tom and Peter.
::Really. Look up the song from the show <strike>"Anything Goes" by Porter</strike> Mame. (Oops, wrong show.) This has been a common phrase for at least a century. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
The title of the tv show is *itself* a reference to the common phrase. Just like the song in Mame. No reference![[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

== Cornbread ==

Does anybody think that Homestar selling cornbread could be related to Bubs calling himself Cornbread in A Decemberween Pageant.
:No. Cornbread is a common food. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:27, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:Do you think Strong Bad's saying that he needs muscle is a reference to the [[Homestarloween Party]], in which Bubs said the car had muscle? If you answered yes to that question, I recommend a tour through [[STUFF]]. It would be instructive. Seriously, it's just cornbread. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]]
I didn't see this one, but on the bread thingy up above, I noted two other cornbread references. Is the third time the charm? (Find out next week! Same bat time, same bat place.)[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

*No way is this a reference. Has no one else ever been to a restaurant where they actually serve tiny breads? A very common one is a little cornbread that is kinda shaped like a flattened football. Maybe they are trying to make it look like a cob of corn. I don't know. But still, small loafs of cornbread are probably the most common type of tiny bread, in my experience. --[[User:Racerx is Alive|racerx_is_alive]] 18:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

**Well, yes, cornbread does exist (and is in fact mildly delicious) but the issue is that TBC like to mention Cornbread a lot. It could be once, twice, three times a running gag! [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

No cornbread? A restaurant near me always serves cornbread with breakfast, and it has those little colored sprinkles in it. That's what the bread in the box looks like to me.

== 'Doom' reference? ==

Flying Head Bad seems to bear a strong resemblance to the Lost Souls from the Doom video game series. Unfortunately, I'm not sure this is worthy of be added.

I'm starting to think that the doom references are becoming a running gag. I seriously think its worthy. -Cyberdemon

:The shrieking heads in Doom fly by themselves. Strong Bad first features some sort of visible anti-gravity device, then the flaming exhausts. I can't see a clear link, despite that both are surrounded by flames somehow. By the way, what other Doom references do you mean? Bubs' shotgun in [[virus]]? --[[User:PoweredByHomsar|PoweredByHomsar]] 02:35, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
::[[secret_identity|strongbad_email.wad]], though I don't see this as a running gag just yet. -[[User:YK|YK]] 09:25, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

The lost souls actually do have rocket boosters stuck in the back of them. This might be a reference. {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}} 00:38, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, I think that's just the Doom 3 ones. The originals are just plain demonic. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 12:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== THX ==

Perhaps those repulsorlift rings are more common than I realize, but did anyone else think of the robot guy with the jetpack in the THX commercial with the cows? I did. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:52, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:Not before thinking of [[Wikipedia:The_Jetsons|The Jetsons]]. Those repulsing rings are pretty much cartoon vernacular by now, just like anvils and giant mallets, though less common. I don't think using an idea or a convention established by someone else necessarily counts a reference, but if you're going to make a reference, at least reference the classic. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]]

== Municipality ==

Why is the KOT's, ahem, "government", referring to Free Country as a ''municipality'', going out of its way to use that exact word? [[Free_Country%2C_USA#Politics|You don't think...]] --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 23:55, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
*Because he's the King of Town. A town is a Municipality. The KOT probably isn't the King of all of Free Country, or Free Country is just one town. -[[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]]

== BIIIG Brother is watching you ==
Not trying to imply any connection, but I just wanted to mention that the Easter egg poster made me think of the poster described in the [first few paragraphs of ''1984'' http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/1/]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:14, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:''pssssst...'' See the STUFF for this toon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::Heh—yeah, I hadn't. Interesting. (Though for me what triggered the connection was not the slogan but the ''fact'' that it was a poster.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:21, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I so got the Ninteen-Eighty Four vibe, no doubt about it. The stormtrooper guards? The urge to support the society? The overall totalitarian feel? The ''we're watching you'' bit? And, of course, the moustache seals it. [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 19:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Might have something to do with the upcoming film ''V for Vendetta''. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 18:12, 14 Mar 2006 (PST)

== Egghead? ==

I might just be weird, but I think Homestar says "Headman" to the career advice head, rather than "Eggman."[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

:Wow. I am ''never'' trusting your ears again. :P {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:08, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I listened some more... Now I hear it. It was just that the E in egg sounded like it had a dropped H, and the G was pretty soft... whatever, I'm better now! [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

==sunglasses and drink==
the shading in stronghead's drink is opposite of that in his sunglasses. looks cool. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:22, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

==ghoul girl==
while homestar's speech impedement is most likely the reason hes says "put some meat on the bones, girl", it is also interesting that it sound like ghoul when he is talking to a disembodied head... {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:22, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

== ham head ==

something was bugging me about strongbody, and i finally figured it out, the bone sticking up out of his neck would only make sense if it was coming out of a major limb, ie a leg, or in this case, a ham... it looks nothing like a vertabrae.. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Cartoons always do that to headless bodies. [[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]]

== RuneScape ==

I know that this may be the biggest strecth you've ever heard/seen, but to anyone who has ever played [http://www.runescape.com RuneScape], please answer this question: '''Does the sound of the riot rocks hitting The Poopsmith's shield sound like the sound of a sword hitting someone in Runescape?''' Maybe I'm just hearing things, but I think it does. I immediately thought of RuneScape when I heard that sound. I know, I know, It's probably just a coincidence, it's probably just a generic sound effect, but I couldn't help mentioning the similarity. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 meh. i dont think so. the rock have a distinctly 'tinny' sound, like an old timey clicky oil dispenser. {{User:Csours/sig}} 18:06, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

The sound effect of Strong Bad typing is a reference to Finding Forrester, where Jamal Wallace makes a similar sound when he is typing. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]]

I play RuneScape, like 75% of the time in my life. Problem is, I don't have sound effects. On my friends computer, though it does, it very much does sound like that. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 17:12, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

== Stone Appearing In The Wrong Place ==

If you look really closely on Strong Body's hand when he is throwing the rocks, the rock appears in his hand not after it passes the bucket of ammo, but after it passes under his legs. The rock is magically in his hand after it passes the wrong place. Goof, possibly? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 22:14, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:I noticed that as well. He doesn't really grab it out of the bucket. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:20, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

== Eggman ==

I was about to add in the Sonic Reference when I saw the tag at the end of the section. But does anybody think it's worth mentioning the use of "Eggman" in the [[Wikipedia:The_Beatles|Beatles]] song "[[Wikipedia:I am the Walrus|I am the Walrus]]"? It's probably better known to more people. {{User:Taco Salad of My Dreams/sig}} 22:25, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:That's even more of a stretch. At least the Sonic ref has more than a similar word going for it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:31, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::Qermaq, even though the song is called "I am the Walrus", it contains the phrase "I am the eggman" in the chorus ([http://beatles-lyrics.org/magical_mystery_tour/i_am_the_walrus link]). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:09, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh, I'm quite aware of the song and its lyrics. Again, I noted that the Sonic reference has more going for it than mention of a single word. I mean, The Eggman is a character in John Waters' "Pink Flamingoes", is that a reference too? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Of course! ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:10, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
I think it is a Sonic refference because it says on the Sonic website that Eggman is shaped like an egg.--[[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82]] 17:53, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

:TS, I thought of the Beatles song too when I heard the phrase "Eggman." I think it's a stretch to call it an overt reference though. At least it'll be archived on this talk page now. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

::Being as notoriously old-school as TBC is, I think they might still be calling Eggman by his US name, Robotnik. --[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 02:03, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Personally, I would be, even though it is just my personal preference that Robotnik sounds more evil than Eggman. I mean what kind of self-respecting evil genius makes his nickname Eggman? --[[User:Troggie|Troggie]] 00:01, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Dr. Eggman was named after the lyric in the Beatles' song. Also, isn't it suspicious how Homestar called Strongbad's head "eggman" in the exact same moment when the Municipality logo is shown. The Municipality logo (which is the head of the King of Town) seems to be attributed to Dr. Eggman's logo, right down to the lined teeth. Dr. Eggman's logo is mostly used in the Sonic Advance series, and in Sonic Rush. I think it also is shown in the anime Sonic X. -GT Koopa March 21, 2006

Wow... good point. I didn't realize that his logo looks so much like that...and I have the wallpaper up too. And by the way, in Sonic Adventure, Sonic makes fun of Robotnik, calling him Eggman. That's how he got the name in the US... -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 23:45, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Dr. Eggman was named Eggman with no intention of refferencing the Beetles song.--[[User:209.158.179.116|209.158.179.116]] 18:34, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

== burnout ==

The comment that mentions that it is not possible for a head without tires to perform a burnout is just a bit ridiculous. I mean, I guess it is commonplace to see a flying head with firing headers, but OMG if that flying head performs a burnout while flying in mid air!
:Heh. You've got a point. Del taco'd! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:44, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
:I was thinking the same thing in [[pop-up]], facts mentioning that specific tabs that wouldn't work in a real paper book... seriously, so many of the things wouldn't work as part of a pop-up book, and that's the joke... Luckily noone mentioned that spontaneously appearing burgers aren't real... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:13, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
::Realize this: Strong Bad's head wouldn't float anyhow because he doesn't have anything to lift him from the ground while he's flying everywhere. --[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 02:05, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Lol, yeah - SB dropped the repulsorlift which got him into the air for the headers attached to his head which got him around in the air, but he dropped the repulsorlift, so he shouldn't be floating anymore, but he is, cause this is a cartoon. :P --[[User:Troggie|Troggie]] 23:58, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Maybe he just has [[Lack of Visible Arms|invisible arms or legs]] holding him up off the ground. ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:43, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Or just invisible fingers. Wait. That's stupid. -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 00:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

== Choppy email ==

Grr...My computer's fixed, and now the emails are choppy! They're less funny when you can't see what's going on...--[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 02:07, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

==The Punisher==

I believe that the KOT logo on the poster for The Municipality is based on that of The Punisher.
:Well, whoever you are, check the Eggman section. Someone thinks that the KOT's symbol looks like Dr. Robot...er, Eggman. I think it's best that you:
*sign your name.
*go argue with him 'till it hurts.
-[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 21:36, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== ReReReReAnimator ===
{{stufffact|The "low-to-no-budget horror film" Regenerator 4 is a reference to the cult classic B-Movie series [[Wikipedia:Re-Animator|ReAnimator]]. The ReAnimator series had three installments, and featured a disembodied head continuing to live, commanding its body, and grafting utilitarian appendages onto itself.}}
{{stuffverdict|06:50, 1 April 2006 (UTC)|22:47, 16 April 2006 (UTC)|declined|15|12|disconnected}}

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=== Jim Henson's STUFF Shop ===
{{stufffact|"Creature Shop" might as well be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Jim Henson's Creature Shop|Jim Henson's Creature Shop]], which makes many animatronic and puppet characters.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)|02:41, 29 March 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined|9|0|disconnected}}

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=== The bosomest of buddies ===
{{stufffact|The phrase "my head and body are normally the bosomest of buddies" is a reference to the 1980s TV show [[Wikipedia:Bosom_Buddies|Bosom Buddies]] starring [[Wikipedia:Tom_hanks|Tom Hanks]] and [[Wikipedia:Peter_Scolari|Peter Scolari]].}}
{{stuffverdict|09:43, 25 March 2006 (UTC)|02:41, 29 March 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined|15|0|disconnected}}

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=== I am the Eggman? ===
{{stufffact|The KOT emblem is very similar to the [http://eggmanempire.com:81/forums/images/avatars/5477439a0b09a4bd7.png emblem] of [[Wikipedia:Doctor Eggman|Dr. Eggman]] from the [[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog series|Sonic the Hedgehog series]], perhaps not coincidentally in the same email in which Homestar calls Strong Bad "Eggman."}}
{{stuffverdict|22:02, 13 March 2006 (UTC)|21:48, 28 March 2006 (UTC)|declined|31|24|disconnected}}

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=== I am the other Eggman ===
{{stufffact|"Eggman" refers to [[Wikipedia:Doctor Eggman|Dr. Eggman]] (grandson of [[Wikipedia:Gerald Robotnik|Gerald Robotnik]]), the main villain in the [[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog series|''Sonic the Hedgehog'' series]].}}
{{stuffverdict|22:47, 13 March 2006 (UTC)|07:39, 19 March 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|21|9|disconnected}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Thing Bad ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's regenerated "Head-nub" and "Nub-head" are very similar to certain forms of the Alien in John Carpenter's [[Wikipedia:The Thing|The Thing]].}}
{{stuffverdict|19:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)|07:39, 19 March 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|18|2|disconnected}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== V for validity ===
{{stufffact|The "We're Onto You" poster could be a reference to the similar propaganda "Big Brother Is Watching You" from the book ''[[Wikipedia:Ninteen Eighty-Four|Nineteen Eighty-Four]]''.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:47, 13 March 2006 (UTC)|07:39, 19 March 2006 (UTC)|revised and then overwhelmingly accepted|24|6|disconnected}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Egg Roll ===
{{stufffact|Just before Strong Bad's head gets his exhaust pipes, he rolls in the same way as the egg characters in the Flash animation [[Wikipedia:Weebl and Bob|Weebl and Bob]].}}
{{stuffverdict|19:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)|04:43, 15 March 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|20|2|disconnected}}

== Sleasy vs. "Seasy" ==

The current transcript refers to the "seasy" life as being a pun on sleasy. However, I just listened to the line several times and it's abundantly clear (at least to me) that Strong Bad's head says "sleasy". I'm going to fix the line if there aren't any objections. - QB
*Sorry, caught up with this topic after I'd already fixed it. He does say "sleazy" - no question about it. I'll post an OGG of the line if I need to. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

== Horror Film? ==

Couldn't the line "straight out of the creature shop of some low-to-no budget horror film" be referring to the movie [[Wikipedia: The Little Shop of Horrors|Little Shop of Horrors]]? I mean, I made the connection. [[User:ShadowIce|ShadowIce]] 20:24, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

== Rolling Head Style ==

The head rolling is very similar to that of Weebl and Bob. If someone more confident of their editing skills could put it in.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weebl_and_bob

A good example is the first episode, when Bob rolls in after the first line.
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/pie/
:Scroll up a little, and you'll see this has been STUFFed and declined (in fact, I'm the one who STUFFed it). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Todd's Saliva ==

This fact was removed, but I think it sounds pretty reasonable: the names are very similar, it's a well-known guy, and it fits the genre.
*Told Salliaveri may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Tom Savini|Tom Savini]], the special-effects wizard most noted for his work on [[Wikipedia:George A. Romero|George A. Romero]]'s ''Living Dead'' series.
Discuss. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 10:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:"Savini" and "Salliaveri" are not terribly similar besides a few common letters and a vague Italian ethnicity. It is as likely not a reference as it is a reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:18, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

== Why isn't Dr. Eggman in the "Real world references"? ==

That doesn't make sense! Why aren't the fact that Homestar calls Strong Bad "Eggman" and The King's symbol not used? I think two references makes it diservable to be in the "Real world references" part down at teh bottom. -Tizye96
:Please read the discussion at [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/disconnected]]. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:46, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Talk:business trip

Evil Egg — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:05:10 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Expen$e Account Ones Easter Egg */

==Expen$e Account Ones Easter Egg==

I respectfully disagree with the assertion that this Easter Egg is a reference to the "Real American Heroes" Bud Light Campaign. The voice-over for this spot was, in my opinion, a pretty good Ted Koppel impersonation. I think the idea was just to have this spot sound more stuffy and business-like, but, if others agree, mentioning the Ted Koppel impersonation may be worth it. [66.61.20.81] 19:35, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:I wouldn't say Ted Koppel is the source of the voice, but the structure and tone of the commercial is a reference to either the Bud Light campaign or Miller commercials. I'm willing to accept that the community will feel it's [[TTATOT]], but it's clear to me that the voice is clearly an attempt at mimicking a particular voice. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:I also don't think its a reference to the Real American Heroes. The voice didnt match at all
:It sounded to me more like the Miller High Life commercials voice where they talk about "living the high life" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lb28iZKHJc (example)
::I'm sure it's a Miller High Life parody. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:37, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:Maybe it's not a reference to anything in particular? Maybe Matt was just mustering a generic overpaid executive voice? [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 12:05, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

==The Field==

i've never seen that style of trees in the field before. is it new? [[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 18:54, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:Looks like. They're all the time tweaking those bushes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::Or maybe these bushes are from Foreign Lands? Free County UK or summat? [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 12:03, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Take off wedding rings ==

This is not a reference to Strongbad's boxing glove hands at all, but the tendency of some male business people on the road to remove their wedding rings to hide the fact that they are married to other women they might meet. I moved this to explanations and removed the inside reference. A mention of vaugly hand related things doen't make a reference. --[[User:Foolster41|Foolster41]] 19:25, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== "You - You've earned it." ==
Is this a reference to the scene in Ghostbusters where Venkman gives the candy bar to Egon? Just a coincidence?
:Oh, wow. Why didn't I recognise that? o_o --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:55, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

==Conglomerate...==
I'm pretty sure that conglomerate is a rock. A sedimentary rock, at that. I have no idea what TBC would be referencing though... --[[User:Chiron|Chiron]] 23:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
*A conglomerate rock is a bunch of rocks formed into one. A business conglomerate is a bunch of companies formed into one. -[[User:141.133.160.52|141.133.160.52]] 23:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== Delivery-ceivables ==

in the transcript for the last easter egg is says "Delivery Receivables", but if you listen to it, the announcer elides it into one word, like Delivericeivables. Not quite sure if there should be a note explaining it. [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 23:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== Homestar's Soles ==

*Homestar's feet don't have stars in the soles, as they did in [[One, Two, One, Two]]. 
Is this notable? I'm not really STUFFing it now because I'm neutral to its inclusion. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:40, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:I think the sole-stars are a stylistic inclusion. The One Two Homestar picture is of an ever-so-slightly different style than normal. Please to be also referring to [[crying]], where he is in the usual style, also with no stars. Additionally, the footprints he leaves in the snow in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] have no stars. Thusly, I feel the stars are NOT typical of the normal Homestar, and only appear in style changes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, I think that makes sense. I agree. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

==St.Louis==
They brought The Cheat an swimming airplane from St. Louis, why implies that they went to St. Louis, even though they went to the King's castle and went to the bar. Did they even go anywhere for the buisness trip?-[[User:68.116.129.182|68.116.129.182]] 02:01, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
*<s>I think we should at least mention Lambert International Airport, because that must have been where he likely got it.</s> Now that I read it again, did they even go anywhere? In some cases, I think it's possible. The Brother's Chaps try to reuse as much stuff as they can. Then again maybe "not going on pointless business trips." Means that the Cheat actually goes somewhere. [[User:70.232.141.225|70.232.141.225]] 11:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Scantily? ==

Should we maybe point out that Strong Bad misused (whether TBC did it intentionally or not) the word "scantily"? {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 03:52, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Bad does that kind of thing all the time, really. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
::Or maybe just sits in an Corinthian leather office chair all day lighting smokables with vast wads of cash. But yeah, "scantily"'s probably just a Strong Bad mannerism. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 12:00, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== New paaaaaper?! ==

The @ sign on New Paper is off a little bit. Wha?
:It is. If you compare it to a previous email's, it's quite clear. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:32, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Homestar jumping ==

Pretty sure that's a reference to scooby doo. Especially since it has to do with "rustling" in some bushes.
*Chances are maybe not. Homestar would have sounded like our good ol' little dog if he would try to make that reference. But then again, maybe his speech impediments make that impossible. [[User:70.232.141.225|70.232.141.225]] 11:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== They're bringing it back ==

American gladiators is [http://www.nbc.com/Casting/#gladiators being reborn]. Worth mentioning?--[[User:76.18.235.142|76.18.235.142]] 07:39, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:business trip

Evil Egg — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:03:14 GMT

Evil Egg: /* The Field */

==Expen$e Account Ones Easter Egg==

I respectfully disagree with the assertion that this Easter Egg is a reference to the "Real American Heroes" Bud Light Campaign. The voice-over for this spot was, in my opinion, a pretty good Ted Koppel impersonation. I think the idea was just to have this spot sound more stuffy and business-like, but, if others agree, mentioning the Ted Koppel impersonation may be worth it. [66.61.20.81] 19:35, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:I wouldn't say Ted Koppel is the source of the voice, but the structure and tone of the commercial is a reference to either the Bud Light campaign or Miller commercials. I'm willing to accept that the community will feel it's [[TTATOT]], but it's clear to me that the voice is clearly an attempt at mimicking a particular voice. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:I also don't think its a reference to the Real American Heroes. The voice didnt match at all
:It sounded to me more like the Miller High Life commercials voice where they talk about "living the high life" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lb28iZKHJc (example)
::I'm sure it's a Miller High Life parody. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:37, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

==The Field==

i've never seen that style of trees in the field before. is it new? [[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 18:54, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:Looks like. They're all the time tweaking those bushes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::Or maybe these bushes are from Foreign Lands? Free County UK or summat? [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 12:03, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Take off wedding rings ==

This is not a reference to Strongbad's boxing glove hands at all, but the tendency of some male business people on the road to remove their wedding rings to hide the fact that they are married to other women they might meet. I moved this to explanations and removed the inside reference. A mention of vaugly hand related things doen't make a reference. --[[User:Foolster41|Foolster41]] 19:25, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== "You - You've earned it." ==
Is this a reference to the scene in Ghostbusters where Venkman gives the candy bar to Egon? Just a coincidence?
:Oh, wow. Why didn't I recognise that? o_o --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:55, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

==Conglomerate...==
I'm pretty sure that conglomerate is a rock. A sedimentary rock, at that. I have no idea what TBC would be referencing though... --[[User:Chiron|Chiron]] 23:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
*A conglomerate rock is a bunch of rocks formed into one. A business conglomerate is a bunch of companies formed into one. -[[User:141.133.160.52|141.133.160.52]] 23:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== Delivery-ceivables ==

in the transcript for the last easter egg is says "Delivery Receivables", but if you listen to it, the announcer elides it into one word, like Delivericeivables. Not quite sure if there should be a note explaining it. [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 23:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== Homestar's Soles ==

*Homestar's feet don't have stars in the soles, as they did in [[One, Two, One, Two]]. 
Is this notable? I'm not really STUFFing it now because I'm neutral to its inclusion. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:40, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:I think the sole-stars are a stylistic inclusion. The One Two Homestar picture is of an ever-so-slightly different style than normal. Please to be also referring to [[crying]], where he is in the usual style, also with no stars. Additionally, the footprints he leaves in the snow in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] have no stars. Thusly, I feel the stars are NOT typical of the normal Homestar, and only appear in style changes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, I think that makes sense. I agree. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

==St.Louis==
They brought The Cheat an swimming airplane from St. Louis, why implies that they went to St. Louis, even though they went to the King's castle and went to the bar. Did they even go anywhere for the buisness trip?-[[User:68.116.129.182|68.116.129.182]] 02:01, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
*<s>I think we should at least mention Lambert International Airport, because that must have been where he likely got it.</s> Now that I read it again, did they even go anywhere? In some cases, I think it's possible. The Brother's Chaps try to reuse as much stuff as they can. Then again maybe "not going on pointless business trips." Means that the Cheat actually goes somewhere. [[User:70.232.141.225|70.232.141.225]] 11:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Scantily? ==

Should we maybe point out that Strong Bad misused (whether TBC did it intentionally or not) the word "scantily"? {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 03:52, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Bad does that kind of thing all the time, really. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
::Or maybe just sits in an Corinthian leather office chair all day lighting smokables with vast wads of cash. But yeah, "scantily"'s probably just a Strong Bad mannerism. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 12:00, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== New paaaaaper?! ==

The @ sign on New Paper is off a little bit. Wha?
:It is. If you compare it to a previous email's, it's quite clear. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:32, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Homestar jumping ==

Pretty sure that's a reference to scooby doo. Especially since it has to do with "rustling" in some bushes.
*Chances are maybe not. Homestar would have sounded like our good ol' little dog if he would try to make that reference. But then again, maybe his speech impediments make that impossible. [[User:70.232.141.225|70.232.141.225]] 11:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== They're bringing it back ==

American gladiators is [http://www.nbc.com/Casting/#gladiators being reborn]. Worth mentioning?--[[User:76.18.235.142|76.18.235.142]] 07:39, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:business trip

Evil Egg — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:00:07 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Scantily? */

==Expen$e Account Ones Easter Egg==

I respectfully disagree with the assertion that this Easter Egg is a reference to the "Real American Heroes" Bud Light Campaign. The voice-over for this spot was, in my opinion, a pretty good Ted Koppel impersonation. I think the idea was just to have this spot sound more stuffy and business-like, but, if others agree, mentioning the Ted Koppel impersonation may be worth it. [66.61.20.81] 19:35, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:I wouldn't say Ted Koppel is the source of the voice, but the structure and tone of the commercial is a reference to either the Bud Light campaign or Miller commercials. I'm willing to accept that the community will feel it's [[TTATOT]], but it's clear to me that the voice is clearly an attempt at mimicking a particular voice. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:I also don't think its a reference to the Real American Heroes. The voice didnt match at all
:It sounded to me more like the Miller High Life commercials voice where they talk about "living the high life" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lb28iZKHJc (example)
::I'm sure it's a Miller High Life parody. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:37, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

==The Field==

i've never seen that style of trees in the field before. is it new? [[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 18:54, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:Looks like. They're all the time tweaking those bushes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== Take off wedding rings ==

This is not a reference to Strongbad's boxing glove hands at all, but the tendency of some male business people on the road to remove their wedding rings to hide the fact that they are married to other women they might meet. I moved this to explanations and removed the inside reference. A mention of vaugly hand related things doen't make a reference. --[[User:Foolster41|Foolster41]] 19:25, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== "You - You've earned it." ==
Is this a reference to the scene in Ghostbusters where Venkman gives the candy bar to Egon? Just a coincidence?
:Oh, wow. Why didn't I recognise that? o_o --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:55, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

==Conglomerate...==
I'm pretty sure that conglomerate is a rock. A sedimentary rock, at that. I have no idea what TBC would be referencing though... --[[User:Chiron|Chiron]] 23:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
*A conglomerate rock is a bunch of rocks formed into one. A business conglomerate is a bunch of companies formed into one. -[[User:141.133.160.52|141.133.160.52]] 23:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== Delivery-ceivables ==

in the transcript for the last easter egg is says "Delivery Receivables", but if you listen to it, the announcer elides it into one word, like Delivericeivables. Not quite sure if there should be a note explaining it. [[User:Telamon|-Telamon]] 23:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== Homestar's Soles ==

*Homestar's feet don't have stars in the soles, as they did in [[One, Two, One, Two]]. 
Is this notable? I'm not really STUFFing it now because I'm neutral to its inclusion. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:40, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:I think the sole-stars are a stylistic inclusion. The One Two Homestar picture is of an ever-so-slightly different style than normal. Please to be also referring to [[crying]], where he is in the usual style, also with no stars. Additionally, the footprints he leaves in the snow in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] have no stars. Thusly, I feel the stars are NOT typical of the normal Homestar, and only appear in style changes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, I think that makes sense. I agree. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

==St.Louis==
They brought The Cheat an swimming airplane from St. Louis, why implies that they went to St. Louis, even though they went to the King's castle and went to the bar. Did they even go anywhere for the buisness trip?-[[User:68.116.129.182|68.116.129.182]] 02:01, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
*<s>I think we should at least mention Lambert International Airport, because that must have been where he likely got it.</s> Now that I read it again, did they even go anywhere? In some cases, I think it's possible. The Brother's Chaps try to reuse as much stuff as they can. Then again maybe "not going on pointless business trips." Means that the Cheat actually goes somewhere. [[User:70.232.141.225|70.232.141.225]] 11:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Scantily? ==

Should we maybe point out that Strong Bad misused (whether TBC did it intentionally or not) the word "scantily"? {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 03:52, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Bad does that kind of thing all the time, really. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
::Or maybe just sits in an Corinthian leather office chair all day lighting smokables with vast wads of cash. But yeah, "scantily"'s probably just a Strong Bad mannerism. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 12:00, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== New paaaaaper?! ==

The @ sign on New Paper is off a little bit. Wha?
:It is. If you compare it to a previous email's, it's quite clear. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:32, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Homestar jumping ==

Pretty sure that's a reference to scooby doo. Especially since it has to do with "rustling" in some bushes.
*Chances are maybe not. Homestar would have sounded like our good ol' little dog if he would try to make that reference. But then again, maybe his speech impediments make that impossible. [[User:70.232.141.225|70.232.141.225]] 11:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== They're bringing it back ==

American gladiators is [http://www.nbc.com/Casting/#gladiators being reborn]. Worth mentioning?--[[User:76.18.235.142|76.18.235.142]] 07:39, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:web comics

Evil Egg — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:31:10 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Explanations */

==Penny Arcade==

Doesn't anyone think that that Game Pox comic looks like Penny Arcade?[[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 20:27, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
:What, the first comic? With the brick? That's the first thing that came to MY mind, and I've never even read Penny Arcade. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::Already in Real-World References. And yes, yes it does. It's a reference, no doubt. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 20:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
:While Strong Bad is pretty clearly modelled after Gabriel, I don't know who the Strong Sad character is supposed to be. But the speech balloons and fonts look similar, also. I think the reference should be put back. (I think it was removed earlier.) [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 20:32, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::Strong Bad's point is that there are a million comics like this. We can't assume that he's making a reference to one specific comic. And as far as being modeled after Gabriel or whoever, I disagree. And besides.. again.. lots of comics are alike. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 20:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
:::STUFF'd. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 20:47, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
If not PA, its most likely CAD

[[User:69.125.174.75|69.125.174.75]]
Poster of that fun fact

:I don't think so. There's nothing that reminds me of CAD in "Game Pox". If anything, Strong Sad is reminiscent of PvP a ''little'' bit, but not enough for me to call it a reference. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 21:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

That is definitely a PA reference. If you say otherwise, well, you're wrong, and you're just going to have to deal with that. And that's my objective opinion on the matter. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 06:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== Captain N parody? ==

Part of this email clearly seems to be sending up Captain N the Game Master. A series which featured a human in the video game world, and the game worlds, story plots and characters often bore little or no resemblance to their game counterparts. For example the Secret Collect character is a whiney coward not unlike Simon Belmont's portrayal in Captain N. The in-jokes may even go further than I recognise.

:Reminded me more of the Pac-Man cartoon, personally. Captain N centered around a real-world human, as well as a whole *group* of random NES characters; not much of a similarity IMO. Also, Simon Belmont was a whiny coward in Captain N (something he very much is *not* in Castlevania games, but I digress), but he was also a hopeless narcissist, which Secret Collect isn't. Ramble. -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:07, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== Bob and George? ==

Been a while since I had posted here. Anyway, when SB was listed out "They're all about video games, gamernerds, webgeeks, dorknerds, gamewads, nerdgames, webwebs, and elves." The first thing that came to mind when he mentioned "video games" (and later said "just steal some graphics from your favorite video game") was the Web Comic [http://www.bobandgeorge.com/ Bob and George], further enforced with the Stinkoman comic bit where the majority of Stinkoman sprites were based off of Megaman... Heck, I too am guilty of the use of videogame graphics for my own web-comic... which I'm currently slacking on. Also, I'd like to point out the MS Paint comment SB mentioned. Many new comers to the sprite/pixel comic landfill often use MS Paint as their very first program, and use it very badly. As far as the Elves part goes, I'm unsure. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 04:59, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
*Unlike Penny Arcade, which has a form that is discernably lampooned, Bob and George and 8-Bit Theater et. al. don't really have any hallmarks that would make them stand out from other sprite comics. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 05:40, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== Explanations ==

I think GamerJox is a spoof of [[Wikipedia:Ctrl+Alt+Del |Ctrl+Alt+Del]]. Strong Sad strongly resembles Lucas. And those web comics with the sprites could be referenced to [[Wikipedia:8-Bit Theater |8-Bit Theater]].
*Strong Bad's pompadour, yelling pose and yellow shirt are pretty reminiscent of Gabriel. Contrariwise, I don't see anything in Strong Sad resembling Lucas other than he's fat. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 05:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
*No, I don't think so. Lucas wears a white shirt, and has hair more like Strong Bad's. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 12:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== Kirby ==

The stupid paint thing that is drawn on the Stinkoman comic looks a little like Kirby in a messed up way.

== The Smurfs ==

*It's not something I want to put on the page without discussing it (unlike Penny Arcade where I'm pretty sure), but the evil wizard from the Secret Collect cartoon reminds me of Gargamel. He wears a crappy looking cloak, is balding, has rotten teeth, and the shot of his castle is reminiscent of all the interior shots in Gargamel's castle. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:31, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

web comics

Evil Egg — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:26:55 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Real-World References */

{{sbenav|181}}
[[Image:Webcomic_sbemail.png|thumb|200px|"That stuff is totally messed up The Cheat. That gunk is ill."]]
Gunkiller and his friends ask Strong Bad for suggestions on making a web comic.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Stinkoman}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Cheat's Computer Room]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' October 8, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:34

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Bad email goes down smooth and clean... like gasoline.

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: story ideas</div>
Hey Strong Bad, 
Me and some of my friends are thinking of doing a web 
comic together and I was wondering if you had any suggestions 
for us. Thanks a lot 
Gunkiller 
Standing right behind you
</blockquote>
''{Strong Bad mutters "for not using punctuation" after "Thanks a lot" and pronounces "Gunkiller" as "Gunk-iller".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Who are you? Gunhaver's evil twin brother? Well I won't be needing your services today; all my gunk is plenty ill already. ''{clears screen}'' Web comics are easy, Gunky. They're all about video games, gamernerds, webgeeks, dorknerds, gamewads, nerdgames, webwebs, and elves. So just pick one of those and start tableting! Like the one where the slickly drawn college roommates make nothing but video game inside jokes!

''{during the preceding, the scene changes to a shot of a comic with two characters, one of whom loosely resembles Strong Bad with black hair and a yellow T-shirt; the other loosely resembles Strong Sad with short blond hair and holding a hand-held video game}''

'''STRONG BAD-LIKE CHARACTER:''' ''{in Strong Bad's voice, the text appears in speech bubbles above him}'' Uh, did you try to case mod that meatloaf you're makin'?

'''STRONG SAD-LIKE CHARACTER:''' ''{in Strong Sad's voice, the text appears in speech bubbles above him}'' No, why?

''{pans to the next panel of the comic; both characters are looking at a burnt brick in a baking pan that the Strong Bad-like character is holding}''

'''STRONG BAD-LIKE CHARACTER:''' 'Cause I think it's BRICKED!

''{pans to the next panel of the comic; both characters are staring wide-eyed}''

'''STRONG SAD-LIKE CHARACTER:''' 3.2ghz cell processor with 3 dual-threaded cores, 1.8 TFLOPS, 256mb XDR...

'''STRONG BAD-LIKE CHARACTER:''' ''{beginning a short way through the previous line, and continuing simultaneously with it}'' Light bloom, floating point frame buffers, volumetric effects, high dynamic range rendering...

''{the scene fades}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Aughhh, I wish I knew what that means!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad at the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Another approach is to just ask for input from your viewers and rip that off for content. ''{zoom out a bit, Strong Bad turns around to face the camera}'' Pfff. What a cop-out.

''{[[New Paper]] comes down. Cut to The Cheat at Monosodium Dreams.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' The Cheat has one of those. He gets people to send him the weird senders' names from spam emails, ''{The Cheat clicks the menu for "Email" and brings up a list of names with a list of subjects}'' and then he makes interpretive drawings based on them! ''{The Cheat double clicks the name "Colliding R. Reallying"}'' Classics like—

''{The scene changes to an undersea image in which two sharks are colliding. Swimming below them is a creature consisting of a glass dome and a propeller. Under this is the text "Colliding R. Reallying" in yellow.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —Colliding R. Reallying!

''{Cut back to The Cheat}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And— ''{The Cheat double clicks the name "Knowingest J. Drawbridges"

''{The scene changes to an image of a man in athletic clothing standing outside a mostly-raised drawbridge over a moat. The man has a mane and horns, and his left arm is extended down into the moat and back up to knock on the drawbridge, which has eyes, a tongue and teeth. The text "Knowingest J. Drawbridges" appears in white at the top.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —Knowingest J. Drawbridges!

''{Cut back to The Cheat, still looking at the Knowingest J. Drawbridges picture on Monosodium Dreams. Strong Bad is now with him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That stuff is totally messed up, The Cheat. That gunk is ill.

''{cut back to Strong Bad at the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' But if cartoony or Cheaty drawings aren't your thing, break out your cracked serial numbers for 'Burn & Dodge: The Fantasy Photoshop Gradient Comic!

''{Cut to an image of a character whose head resembles Strong Bad's mask with a beard. He also has a muscular torso and is holding a buckler and sword. A creature resembling The Cheat with a pointy tail and horns is on his shoulder.}''

'''BORGORROTH OF COOLSWORDORROTH:''' ''{appears above him in a speech bubble}'' Hold! Borgorroth of Coolswordorroth shimmies for no man!

'''THE CHEAT:''' Meh!

''{Cut to wider view; The Cheat-like creature is now behind Borgorroth of Coolswordorroth, who is holding his sword defensively in front of him. A figure in a black cloak is opposite them and holding his right hand at them; the hand is radiating light}''

'''CLOAKED FIGURE:''' ''{in Strong Bad's voice}'' LENS FLARE!

'''BORGORROTH OF COOLSWORDORROTH:''' Uh, PLASTIC WRAP! ''{the scene becomes covered in plastic wrap}''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad at the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or if you can't draw, never fear, just steal some graphics from your favorite video game. And add yet another unlicensed pixel comic to the overcrowded, overstunk landfill of web comics.

''{Cut to a panel showing Stinkoman in his sprite form from Stinkoman 20X6 on green land, while the theme music from [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 1|the first level]] plays.}

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{appears in a speech bubble}'' Sometimes I wish I could challenge my own self.

''{Pan to the next panel, in which the scene is dark and the text "ZAP!" appears in red near the top. The scene returns to normal as a second Stinkoman appears facing the first.}''

'''SECOND STINKOMAN:''' ''{in 1-Up's voice}'' I'm Stinkoman.

'''STINKOMAN:''' WAAAAAAAAH!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And when your pixel comic's not funny—

''{Cut to the next panel, which is the same as the previous but with two red eyes with green irises added, along with various shapes and colors.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —MS Paint your way to a non-punchline!

''{The scene fades out. Cut back to Strong Bad at the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' As terrible as this is, I suppose web comics are a better fate for video games than Saturday morning cartoons were.

''{Cut to a cartoon scene with a red cube with legs, arms, eyes and a green cap; a blond boy with a shirt that says "Kid" and a surfboard; and a dog wearing sunglasses.}''

'''KID:''' Ah, come on, Secret Collect! Let's go surfing inside the evil castle!

''{Cut to a closeup of the dog}''

'''DOG:''' Uh, dudeical!

''{Cut to a closeup of Secret Collect; the scene continuously zooms in on him}''

'''SECRET COLLECT:''' ''{exaggeratedly shuddering}'' Ohh, I don't know about this! Collect, collect, collect!

''{Cut to a scene of a wizard with green eyes, a brown tunic, a beard, and three jewels set in his forehead looking at the previous scene in a crystal ball in a castle.}''

'''WIZARD:''' Once I collect the final secret, the sweepstakes will be mine!

''{Scene changes to a picture of a clay Nebulon in a kitchen; he has a speech bubble that says, "Secret Collect. will be right back...", above the speech bubble is a small picture of Secret Collect. On the bottom right of the screen is a bubble with the text "Saturday Mornideo Games".}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Secret Collect will be right back.

''{scene changes to show a smiling animated Thy Dungeonman and the text "The Animated Adventures of Thy Dungeonman".}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' And stay tuned for The Animated Adventures of Thy Dungeonman!

''{Cut to a background of poorly-drawn houses, in front of which stand two characters: the text "Go North" and "Get Dagger", both in green letters and with eyes and legs.}''

'''GET DAGGER:''' My cousin's coming to visit!

''{Zoom out to show a text character Take Dagger next to Get Dagger.}''

'''TAKE DAGGER:''' Hiya, guys!

''{Two more green characters are seen running behind them. Cut to a scene of the text character "Dennis" chasing the text character "Ye Flask".}''

'''DENNIS:''' You get back heeeeeere!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad at the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So to answer your question, Gunky, DON'T MAKE A WEB COMIC! Why can't you just make a...comic. Everyone knows that putting 'web' in front of words automatically makes them crappier. Just look what happened to 'pages,' and 'cams,' and 'logs.' And who could forget the fall of the mighty 'isode.' Ohh, so tragic.

''{[[New Paper]] comes down}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Gunk Iller.png|thumb|He be illin'!]]
*Click on "Gunkiller" after Strong Bad says his name to see a [[Cheat Commandos]] action figure named after him.
*Click on "COMICS" at the end of the email to bring up a window where you can [[Stinkoman Sunday Fun Talk|make your own Stinkoman comic]] using sprites from [[Stinkoman 20X6]].
*Click on "'web' in front" at the end of the email to see a drawing of a blimp in flight above a stadium, with the words "GO LOAF!" over it.
*Click on "crappier" at the end of the email to see what happened to Borgorroth of Coolswordorroth.
*:'''CLOAKED MAN:''' OCEAN RIPPLE! ''{another effect is applied}''
*:'''BORGORROTH OF COOLSWORDORROTH:''' FIND EDGES! ''{another effect is applied, changing much of the colour}''
*:'''CLOAKED MAN:''' SHARPEN MORE! ''{another effect is applied. The image is mostly incomprehensible now.}''
*:'''BORGORROTH OF COOLSWORDORROTH:''' Er... NUDGE! ''{the scene shifts a little to the left}''

==Fun Facts==
{{checkstuffpage}}
===Explanations===
*"[[Wikipedia:Brick (electronics)|Bricked]]" is slang for causing an electronic piece of equipment to no longer function.
*"[[Wikipedia:Case modding|Case modding]]" is the act of modifying a video game console or computer chassis.
*"[[Wikipedia:FLOPS|TFLOPS]]" stands for "Tera-FLoating point Operations Per Second" and is a measure of the speed of a computer in mathematical operations.
*"Lens Flare", "Plastic Wrap", "Ocean Ripple", "Find Edges" and "Sharpen More" are all ''filters'' that one can use in [[Wikipedia:Adobe Photoshop|Adobe Photoshop]]. "Nudge" is the term used to describe the act of moving an object on the image canvas.

===Trivia===
[[Image:Webcomicpreview.png|thumb|"That's funny. I gave it negative 2."]]
*The email preview features a different GamerJox comic than featured in the email.
*:'''STRONG BAD LIKE CHARACTER:''' EGM2 gave the new Peasant's Quest game 4 out of 10!!
*:'''STRONG SAD LIKE CHARACTER:''' That's funny. I gave it negative 2.
*:'''STRONG BAD LIKE CHARACTER:''' Don't you think that's a bit harsh?
*:'''STRONG SAD LIKE CHARACTER:''' I think EGM2 is a bit nonexistent for 10 years.
*The clay [[Nebulon]] is in the paper [[Cheat Commandos Playsets#Reynold's Apartment|Reynold's Apartment]] playset.

===Inside References===
* Two of The Cheat's emails are from [[Lem Sportsinterviews]] and "hooray4dolphins", [[Marzipan]]'s [[Contacts|screen name]] in [[marzipan]].
* The Stinkoman Sunday Fun Talk comic (as seen in the Easter egg) is syndicated by [[Harmless Junk]].
* Strong Bad showed that he thought EGM2 is still around in [[what I want]].
* When the New Paper comes down the first, inappropriate time, Strong Bad does not complain. However in the email [[mini golf]], he does. This could be a sign that Strong Bad has finally gotten used to the New Paper.

===Real-World References===
*The Cheat's "interpretive drawings" based on spam sender names is similar to [http://spamusement.com/ Spamusement's] "Poorly-drawn cartoons inspired by actual spam subject lines"
*The email preview refers to [[Wikipedia:EGM2|EGM2]], a United States-based video game magazine that was published by Sendai Publishing from July 1994 to July 1998.
*The [[Secret Collect]] Saturday morning cartoon is reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Captain N|Captain N: The Game Master]], which featured various [[Wikipedia: Nintendo|Nintendo]] game characters led by a teenager. Also, both the Secret Collect and [[Thy Dungeonman]] cartoons are possibly parodies of the shows featured in [[Wikipedia: Saturday Supercade|Saturday Supercade]], and the latter also bears similarities to the [[Wikipedia:Pac-Man (TV series)|Pac-Man cartoon]].

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|181|{{{2|12599}}}}}
*[[HR:stinko_comic.html|Stinkoman 20X6 comics maker Easter egg]]
*[[HR:stinko_comic.swf|view the Flash file for the Stinkoman 20X6 comics maker Easter egg]]
{{Strong Bad Email}}

Strong Bad Email Statistics

Evil Egg — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:01:24 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Strong Bad Email by era */

[[Image:NoLoafingPieChart.png|thumb|No Loafing!]]

With more and more [[Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Emails]] released on [[homestarrunner.com]], it is hard to keep track of all the '''statistics''', such as which computer was used the most, or how the length of emails has increased throughout the years. To correctly calculate those numbers, a few charts and graphs have been made for the ease of the people who like to know ''everything'' about [[Strong Bad]] and his emails.

==Strong Bad Email length==
This section involves data taken from the list [[Strong Bad Email By Length]].
[[Image:SBEScatter.png|thumb|200px|left|A scatter plot of chronological number vs. length, with outliers.]]
[[Image:SBELinReg.png|thumb|200px|right|A scatter plot of chronological number vs. length, without outliers.]]

The scatter plot to the left shows a fairly strong positive correlation between Email Number and Email Length. The ''r'' value between these two variables, including outliers, is .7302. An ''r'' value of 1 would indicate a perfect positive correlation. A value of -1 indicates a perfect negative correlation. Therefore, .7302 indicates a fairly strong positive correlation.

The left plot, however, shows a handful of clear outliers which are likely affecting the correlation. In the plot on the right, the outliers have been removed (the outliers were defined as those emails with a residual value of 65 or greater, or -65 or less). A Least Squares Regression Line (LSRL) has also been added. The LSRL can be used to extrapolate, or guess the length of future emails. The ''r'' value of this line is .8422. The equation for the LSRL is y = 1.2141x + 50.428. This method of guessing is not 100% accurate, since it is unlikely the emails will ever be, for example, 20 minutes long. This equation should not be considered a foolproof method for guessing the length of an email, but it does give a nice idea of what the average length of an email is at a given point in time.

==Strong Bad Email by era==
[[Image:bar_graph_by_length.PNG|thumb|200px|left|"The newer, the longer"]]
[[Image:pie_graph_by_era.PNG|thumb|200px|right|The [[Compy 386]] has thus far been the longest.]]

This section involves data on the computer used to answer each email, or the "era" of the computer. The categories are [[Tandy 400]], Broken Tandy, [[Compy 386]], [[Lappy 486]], and Other ([[Pom Pilot]], [[Tangerine Dreams]], and [[Corpy NT6]].)

{{clear}}

==Total time spent using each computer==
[[Image:Sbemails total length per computer.png|computer|thumb|250px|left|Total length of Strong Bad Emails per computer]]

This section involves data taken from the Strong Bad Email by Length page. The chart recognizes four categories of computers: Tandy 400 (includes Broken Tandy), Lappy 486, Compy 386, and Other.

{{clear}}

==Strong Bad Emails featuring more than one email==
Several Strong Bad Emails feature more than one email.
* [[credit card]] — After checking his email, Strong Bad sends an email to, and gets a reply from, [[Homestar Runner]].
* [[spring cleaning]] — Strong Bad checks five emails and promptly deletes each one.
* [[strongbad_email.exe]] Bonus Email #2 [[E-mail Birds]] — Strong Bad answers three emails on the [[Tandy 400|Tandy]].
* [[sisters]] — Strong Bad accidently deletes the first email he gets and later receives a [[Poorly Written Emails|poorly written one]].
* [[50 emails]] — Strong Bad checks two emails (and begins to check another before [[Homestar Runner]] arrives and "answers" another two).
* [[huttah!]] — The first five emails Strong Bad checks all show particular interest in [[The Cheat]] (he deletes them). The last two are all directed to Strong Bad, but he attempts to fool The Cheat into thinking they're for him.
* [[personal favorites]] — In addition to the main email, Strong Bad is seen answering 4 emails in fake flashbacks (two in the main toon, two in Easter eggs).
* [[2 emails]] — Jimmy suggests Strong Bad check two emails a week and he does. He can also be seen checking a third email during the fast-forwarding.
* [[lunch special]] — After checking his email, Strong Bad receives another one from [[Strong Mad]].
* [[cheatday]] — After Strong Bad checks his email, he lets The Cheat check another three emails.
* [[other days]] — In addition to the main email, Strong Bad answers a Polish email (and a snail mail).
* [[dreamail]] — Strong Bad makes up an additional email and answers it.
* [[do over]] — Strong Bad re-answers two old emails.
* [[bottom 10]] — Strong Bad receives an email with large numbers of "Fwd:" and "Re:" in the subject line, as an example of #8 on his bottom 10.
* [[lady...ing]] — Strong Bad remembers an older email.
* [[theme song]] — Strong Bad can be seen answering an email in one of the theme song montages.
* [[retirement]] — Strong Bad answers an email on each of his first two computers.
* [[the chair]] — Strong Bad answers a second email, but his [[Le Restige|new chair]] obstructs almost the entire screen of the [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] while he does so.

==Intervals between Strong Bad Emails==
[[Image:sb_email_frequency.png|thumb|200px|right|A column graph showing the intervals between Strong Bad Emails.]]

Strong Bad Emails are released at varying frequencies. The graph on the right shows the number of days in between the release of an email.
Here is a summary of the data:
* Mean: 11.45 days
* Median: 7 days
* Mode: 7 days — 69 emails came out 7 days after the previous release
* Minimum: 1 day — There was 1 day between the releases of [[retirement|retirement A]] and [[retirement|retirement B]].
* Maximum: 71 days — There were 71 days between the releases of [[halloweener]] and [[brianrietta]]

''Note: Data are not complete. Reliable dates are not available for [[homsar]], [[butt IQ]], [[homestar hair]], [[making out]], and [[depressio]]. These data are as of October 4, 2006.

==Other information==
*41% of all emails have no location given; 2% have no return sender at all.
*The average email is 1.81 sentences long; the average cartoon is 152.82 seconds long.
*[[The Brothers Chaps]] most frequently choose emails with sender names starting with J or S. Together these senders make up a whopping 26.75% of all emails. This may be an indicator of popular names in the world, not an indication of TBC preference.
*Only 18% of all emails are longer than two sentences. Only one email longer than four sentences has ever been used.
* There are eight substantiated claims of Strong Bad answering an email from a HRWiki or HRWiki forum user. These emails are [[montage]] (sent by [[User:Porplemontage|Porplemontage]]), [[animal]] (sent by [[User:Kerrek slaya|Kerrek slaya]]), [[portrait]] (sent by [[User:NachoMan|NachoMan]]), [[space program]] (sent by [http://forum.hrwiki.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2807 Ryan Sturmer]), [[cliffhangers]] (sent by [[User:Cessna Man!|Cessna Man!]]), [[underlings]] (sent by [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]]), [[the paper]] (sent by [[User:Thewi2kbug|Thewi2kbug]]), and [[slumber party]] (sent by [[User:ThomasO|ThomasO]]).

==External links==

*[http://www.strongfans.com/EmailDatabase.xls View the data (Excel Spreadsheet)] 45KB, current as of 19 August 2005.
*[http://www.geocities.com/wgfe1/EmailDatabase.htm View the data as a web page] current as of 29 April 2007.

{{StrongBadEmailInfo}}
[[Category:Strong Bad Email]]
[[Category:Research]]

Pom Pom

Evil Egg — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:37:26 GMT

Evil Egg: "Carbonated"?

{{charnav|Pom Pom|pp|Strong Sad|Marzipan}}
{{aboutcharacter}} {{foremail|pom pom}}
[[Image:pompom.PNG|thumb|right|220px|The big cheese.]]
[[Image:Babypp.PNG|thumb|Bouncy, bouncy...]]
== Biography ==
'''Pom Pom''' (also spelled '''Pom-Pom''') is a [[Pom]] from the Isle of Pom. Pom Pom, like all Poms, appears to be inflated. He talks by making [[Lack of Intelligible Speech|bubbly noises]] and can absorb objects into his body for storage, suggesting that he is made of some sort of gelatinous substance. He is also quite skilled in [[Wikipedia:Martial Art|martial arts]] (see [[Pom Pom#Fighting Skills|below]]).

Pom Pom is [[Homestar Runner]]'s [[Homestar Runner and Pom Pom's Relationship|best friend]], but he sometimes [[Strong Bad and Pom Pom's Relationship|hangs out]] with [[Strong Bad]] as well. He has such an open mind that he sometimes spends time with unpopular characters such as [[The King of Town]] and [[The Poopsmith]]. Pom Pom is often seen talking on [[Cell Phone|his cell phone]] to his many [[Pom Pom's girls|girls]], and he keeps track of their contact information in his [[Pom Pilot]]. His parents' names are [[General and Fraulein Pom Pom]], as seen in an Easter egg in the email [[pom pom]]. Pom Pom was going to have a dog named [[Rejected Characters#Trivia Time|Trivia Time]], but this concept seems to have been abandoned. Pom Pom is also "the big cheese" at [[The Office]] as shown in [[from work]].

*'''Debut:''' [[Original Book|"The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest"]]

*[[:Category:Pom Pom Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

== Character Video Transcript ==
''{'''Page Title''': The Most Mackinest!!}'' ''{'''Place:''' [[The Field]]}''

''{Pom Pom is talking on his phone.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Here go Pom Pom! ''{to Pom Pom}'' What's up, Pom Pom? ''{Pom Pom gestures to his phone}'' Oh, sorry. ''{to camera}'' Pom Pom is definitely the mack around here. And he's my best friend. He's gotten me out of some pretty tight jams. And some pretty tight pants! But that only happened once. ''{to Pom Pom}'' Hey, Pom Pom! Yo—

''{Pom Pom looks at him angrily and points to his phone.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, right. I forgot already. He's probably talking to some fine honey on his celly.

''{Pom Pom gets out his wallet and shows the camera some pictures of his girlfriends, then tries to put it back in later but a part of it is sticking out, which he shoves it in with more force.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' About to get her phone number. Or maybe he already has it. He gets digits like every single day. ''{to Pom Pom}'' Isn't that right, Pom Pom?

''{Irritated, Pom Pom snaps his phone shut and bubbles angrily at Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, sorry again, man. My bad. I wasn't trying to step to you or anything. We're still cool.

''{Pom Pom sighs, puts his phone away, shakes his head and bounces away.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Pom Pom and I are still cool.

===Fun Facts===
*Homestar claims Pom Pom helped him out of some [[Homestar Runner's Pants|tight pants]].

== Fighting Skills ==
[[Image:MartialArtsPom-Pom.PNG|thumb|right|160px|Kung-Fu skills.]]
Pom Pom is skilled in the martial arts and appears to enjoy fighting.

The first instance of Pom Pom fighting is inside a dojo from the [[Theme Song Video]] where he shows off his moves; this is broadened on later in the email [[pom pom]] where he gets a [[Nintendo|1-Up]] by severely pummeling Strong Bad. In the [[pom pom#Commentary Transcript|commentary]] for the same email, [[The Brothers Chaps]] discussed wanting to make a side scrolling Pom Pom fighting game. His skills are seen again in [[personal favorites]] where he got into a "knife fight" with [[Coach Z]]. In [[Summer Short Shorts]], Pom Pom shows off his skills with a [[Wikipedia:Bō|Bō]] and disappears with a smoke bomb.

== Fun Facts ==
=== Driver's license ===
<blockquote>POM POM 
125 Lexington Ave 
Isle Of Pom 
 
SEX HEIGHT WEIGHT 
POM 6'2" 4 lbs 
 
ORGAN 
DONOR</blockquote>

===Phone Numbers===
''Home'': (123) 456-7890 
''Cell'': (123) 555-8307 
''Pager'': (718) 555-1059 

*The area code for Pom Pom's pager number, 718, is the area code for the outer boroughs of New York City. 123 is not a real area code, as none (in the [[wikipedia:North American Numbering Plan|North American Numbering Plan]], at least) begin with the numeral 1.
* Pom Pom's "voice" is the same re-used sound sample of [[Mike Chapman]] blowing bubbles into a glass of milk. His is the only voice that is never recorded fresh for every toon (and never has been since his first appearance).
*"The Most Mackinest" is a phrase taken from the [[Wikipedia:Beastie Boys|Beastie Boys]]' song "Shake Your Rump."
*Pom Pom is the only main character whose [[parents]] have been seen on the site, in a picture in [[Pom Pom, Too]]. They are differently-colored Poms in the picture, but Strong Bad hypothetically envisions them as a [[Pom Pom's Hypothetical Family|File Cabinet]] in [[Family Resemblence]].
*Pom Pom's ringtone is a clip of DJ Teh Cheat's remix of [[The Geddup Noise]], as heard in [[technology]].
*Pom Pom seems to own a [[Guns|firearm]], as he has pulled out a gun in [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] and [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].

== Relationships ==
:''Main article: [[Character Relationships]]''
*[[Homestar Runner and Pom Pom's Relationship]]
*[[Strong Bad and Pom Pom's Relationship]]

== Variations ==
*[[Fat Dudley]] ([[Old-Timey]])
*[[Pan Pan]] ([[20X6]])
*[[Other Character Variations#2046|2046 Pom Pom]] ([[your funeral]])
=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===

*[[Wikipedia:Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man|Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man]] (from [[Wikipedia:Ghostbusters|Ghostbusters]]) in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*[[Wikipedia:Michael_Moore|Michael Moore]] in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*[[Wikipedia:Kool-Aid_Man|Kool-Aid Man]] in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*[[Wikipedia:Kamala (wrestler)|Kamala the Ugandan Giant]] in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*The Big Boy (from [http://www.bobs.net/ Bob's Big Boy]) in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*Walter Sobchak from [[The Big Lebowski]] in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
*[[IMDB:nm1602671|Mario Batali]] in [[Happy Hallow-day]].

==See Also==
*[[Pom Pom Evolution]]
*[[Pom Pom Other Costumes|Other Costumes]]
*[[Nicknames#Pom Pom|Nicknames]]
*[[Pom Pom's Hypothetical Family]]

== External links ==
*[[HR:vcr_pp.html|watch Pom Pom's character video]]
*[[HR:vcr_pp.swf|view the Flash file for Pom Pom's character video]]

{{subtitlesLinks|vcr_pp}}

{{Characters|Pom Pom}}

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Talk:Ever and More

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Evil Egg: /* About this organization */

=="Cold Ones Light" poster==
In the background of when Homestar opens the meeting, there's a poster for "Cold Ones Light." The logo looks remarkably familiar but I can't put my thumb of what brand it's suppose to be parodying. Anyone know? I think it should go in the "Real World References" part, perhaps. --[[User:Champthom|Champthom]] 07:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:Reminds me of the [http://images.google.com/images?q=old%20style%20beer Old Style beer logo], but that's a Wisconsin/Chicago area brew, so I'm not sure that TBC would be familiar with it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:30, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:On the other hand, it is ''very'' close — it has the red and blue diagonal background on a shield, a similar font, and a red ribbon coming from the bottom. I think this is too similar to be a coincidence, so I'm gonna add it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

::I personally think it's just a coincidence, but I don't mind leaving it for the time being; at least until further discussion is made regarding it. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I dunno, they look too similar to me to pass it off as mere coincidence... -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:26, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Gallery of Helmets ==

Should there be a gallery of the helmets the Brothers are wearing?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:I second that idea, but I haven't had much luck figuring out most out the helmets.{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 21:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

::I agree; this is a good idea, though I think it could go [[Broternal Order of Different Helmets]] (which describes what each helmet is) Most (all?) of the helmets probably have pictures uploaded at pages like [[The Cheat Other Costumes]], etc. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:55, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Loading, Friend ==

Is there any reason why the loading screen for this toon is "loading, friend,". If there is, please post it [[Irregular Loading Screens|here]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 11:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
*Probably because this toon is about a type of Brotherhood. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
It reminds me of Cheers, but thats probably just me.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 10:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
A general principle of fraternal organizations is that all the members are equal. To call someone by their "real world" title could break that illusion, so replacements like "friend", "brother", "comrade", "member" and others are substituted. -- Septyn

== The Pants Lawsuit ==

I have severe doubts about that reference. For one, the dry cleaners lost his lucky pants, Bubs just can't fit in them. And for two, The Brothers Chaps very rarely make references to current news stories, one so innocuous as this one wouldn't be a prime candidate for an exception. We're ''really'' stretching it here.

:I agree with your skepticism; here's the fact as I removed it, in case people disagree. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:49, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>
Bubs's remark about being in a bad mood because he hasn't been able to fit his lucky pants might be a reference to a news story about a Washington DC Judge who sued a dry cleaner for $54 million dollars for losing his 'lucky' pants. The case was thrown out June 25, 2007 - one day before this toon was posted.
</blockquote>

== doodoo ==

The transcript currently says that Strong Bad says "that's horse pocky, you fools!" I'm 99.9% sure that it's actually "horse pucky", which is semi-obscure slang for horse poop, aka a variation on bullsh-t. Not only does this make more sense than "horse pocky", but one of the characters on M*A*S*H used to say it, and references to 70s/80s sitcoms are pretty standard on this site. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 13:13, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:Agreed. It should be changed. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 13:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
::Also agreed; I changed it to "horse puckey". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:16, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:::The M*A*S*H character you're referring to is [[Wikipedia:Colonel Potter|Colonel Potter]]. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 04:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::::If memory serves, Colonel Potter's expression was "horse hockey." --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 16:43, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Potter does (well, did) indeed use the term "Horse hockey." However, Strong Bad clearly says "Pucky" on this toon. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 02:34, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Could it also be a variation of bullhonkey? That's what I immediately thought of when I first heard it. --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 12:38, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::Actually, Col. Potter had a wide variety of similar expressions. I'm sure there's a list somewhere. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 03:16, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::Pucky (or "puckey," as it were) and Honkey I think in this case are interchangeable because it means all the same thing. (OT: I've taken to using "bullpuckey" lately a lot...blame Rachel Maddow, it's her fault.) --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 22:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

== BUBRUB! ==

Remember that news broadcast about the "whistle tips"? [http://youtube.com/watch?v=eSOSJ68xOBA It's on YouTube]. The guy's name on the news is Bubb Rubb. Maybe I'm just grasping at straws and the ointment is only named after Bubs himself, but when he held it up and I read the label, I immediately thought, "The whistles go whooooo!" [[User:William|William]] 14:19, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

-I don't think so. Rubs and ointments are a common theme through the Homestar Runner series, given that 'Bub(s)' rhymes with 'rub', I don't think any further explanation is needed. [[User:194.80.32.10|194.80.32.10]] 14:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

::Personally, I'm willing to allow it, because it is a fairly well-known meme. It ''might'' be a coincidence, but I think it's fairly likely that it's not. I'd leave the fact, but make sure it says that it ''could'' be a reference rather than it ''is'' a reference. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 17:15, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I strongly disagree with this reference and I think it should be STUFF'd, if not removed outright. Thank you. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 19:58, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Why do you disagree with it so strongly? The Bubb Rubb meme was, as 0rion pointed out, fairly popular, and even though rubs and ointments are a common occurrence in the H*R series, I think it's still likely to be an intentional reference. It's at least likely enough to warrant inclusion with the qualifier that it may possibly be a reference. If you feel so strongly against it, please explain your reasoning. [[User:72.248.107.194|72.248.107.194]] 14:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:I just felt the reference was a total stretch. Some folks are quick to call "real-world reference" just because it reminds them of something they've seen before, with no regard for relevance. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. I see this was STUFF'd and declined unanimously before I even had a chance to vote, so obviously I wasn't alone on this. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 16:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::It's not a total stretch if it reminds people of the meme. The Brothers Chaps are very internet guys, and I'm sure they've seen it. If it makes it as a reference, here's a decent link to accompany it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRON-TV#Bubb_Rubb -- [[User:Rueful|Rueful]] 20:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::It didn't make it, though. It has already been declined in STUFF. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:59, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I checked the STUFF page, and it was decided within five hours of being posted. I didn't even know it was on there until after it was already closed. It seems to me that it should be on there for at least a couple of days so that folks can know about it and discuss it. I'm not trying to be annoying about this, I just think that there are people who think that it is an intentional reference, and those people would have voted "Accept" if they'd known it was on the STUFF page. Even if the "Decline"'s still win, which I think they probably will, even with a longer vote, it seems unfair that there was such a brief window in which to actually vote. --[[User:Huitzilopochtli|Huitzilopochtli]] 21:52, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::This isn't the best place to discuss anyone's doubts in the STUFF process, but there were no supporting votes or arguments presented for that fact at all. The precedent in STUFF is that an item is "swiftly and unanimously declined" in that scenario. Surely ''someone'' would have supported it in that time frame if any numbers which could have outvoted at least 18 people were going to. I also want to point out that the STUFF notice was appropriately placed in the Fun Facts section. Anyone who wanted to review the STUFFed fact had that opportunity in that time frame - a high-activity time frame, as it happens. Again, out of all the registered users who could have, none supported it. Anyway, I think the fact was given a fair hearing and could never have achieved acceptance based on the way it went.
:::::Additionally, there's no purpose in holding a vote open if the outcome is clear. This is not like a presidential election or anything, where our future and security ride in the balance, and stopping voting early because there's a clear outcome is a violation of voters' rights. This is a STUFF vote for the purpose of determining consensus. Once consensus is reached, there's no reason to continue the exercise. Not that others' votes are unwanted, but because they are unneeded. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:07, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::What you don't seem to understand is not everyone has nothing better to do with their time than check the HRWiki every two hours. I think this Wiki is pretty cool, and I do have an interest in what is and is not included on it, but I still only come here every week or so (about as often as a new sbemail goes up) because I have a very busy job. There’s probably many more like me. Maybe the majority of users who were online in that 5 hour window were against the Fun Fact, but that doesn't at all reflect that the majority of people who use this site at all are against it. I, for one, am for it. I'm not exactly up to date on all the latest trendy internet jokes, but if Bubb Rubb is a popular thing, it's certainly plausible that BUBRUB is a reference. It's at least worth a mention. It doesn't matter if it has anything to do with the cartoon. TBC makes non sequitur references all the time. ("Taster's Choice" comes to mind.)--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 06:59, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I also feel that the STUFF process should have longer voting windows; I had no idea that this process even existed, and by the time I found out, it was too late. In addition, I can't wait until someone hears from the Brothers Chaps that it was, in fact, a reference to Bubb Rubb.[[User:Maristredfox|Maristredfox]] 21:13, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

:Duly noted. Almost all STUFF items are open for a minimum of 3-4 days, and even longer if there isn't at least a 10-vote difference by that point. In cases where there is about a 20-vote difference before then, however, they are promptly closed. These guidelines have worked well so far, so we'll keep following them. However, we'll try to be sensitive to ensuring that the minority has had a fair chance to voice their position.

:Have you tried [mailto:brotherschaps@homestarrunner.com emailing the Brothers Chaps]? I'm not sure that they'd respond about this, but it couldn't hurt... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:21, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

::I fail to see how anyone could think that this is NOT a reference to the whistling muffler guy. There was no point to Bubs's story except to bring out the tube, that was the culmination of his story, and there was no reference after it. Either they went on his story diversion simply so they could say "the word 'Bubs' rhymes with 'rub' and for no apparent reason his name is on the label...." Or...since this is TBC, they made a diversion for an inside joke\cultural reference\past references. That's what they do. This is a reference.--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 22:02, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Okay, it's possibly a reference. "Possible" references are not notable because they'd be innumerable -- limited only by our collective imagination. Hey, there was a dartboard in the "Cheers" bar, so the dartboard must be a Cheers reference! The fact is, none of us are mind readers (I think), and the BUBRUB joke still works even if you never heard of Bubb Rubb, so it's a superfluous reference at best. I doubt TBC will ever tell; they're too busy laughing at us. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 00:19, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Some possible references make more sense than others. Any random dartboard being a Cheers reference is just crazygonuts, but considering the fact that Bubb Rubb and BUBRUB would be indistinguishable if we were speaking instead of typing, even if it weren't an intentional reference, it still seems like a pretty fun fact to me.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 07:13, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
:Re the comment "I can't wait until someone hears from the Brothers Chaps that it was, in fact, a reference to Bubb Rubb" - this has indeed happened in the past, where a STUFFed fact's status was overturned by incontrovertible evidence. Of course, the STUFF process is not perfect. But, no amount of voting by us can accurately divine what TBC's intentions were. We do the best we can, and that's about all we can do. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:58, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
::I think that's perfectly reasonable. My main issue was really the idea of the HR wiki community, and making sure that things are done fairly. It's certainly true that lives do not hang in the balance of this decision. However, what ''is'' at stake is new members' perceptions of this community. This Fun Fact was my first contribution, and I had no idea what the "official" process was. The initial response to the fact seemed, to me, downright hostile. People pounced on it, held a vote for a few hours while I was offline, and declared it "swiftly and unanimously declined". It felt as though I'd just vandalized the site, which I hadn't since I honestly believe that the fact is valid. It also felt as though if I weren't one of the main and most active editors, nothing I do will matter. I realize now that's not the case, and for the most part, the membership here seems very reasonable and friendly. I do appreciate that the vote was re-opened. I knew it would be declined anyway, but the real issue was being able to contribute to the discussion in a meaningful way. By the same token, this is a community, and if the community declines the reference after hearing all arguments for and against it, then that's fair, pending any divine intervention from TBC. I realize how insignificant this one issue is. It does, however, have an effect upon those involved, and we should be aware of how our actions might snowball into trends that will turn people away. That said, I think this situation, all told, was handled reasonably. I, for one, will put it to bed and move on to more important and interesting things in my life :) [[User:Huitzilopochtli|Huitzilopochtli]] 15:19, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

There was no reason whatsoever that the vote should have been reopened, and shame on whoever decided to do it. 18 decline votes in one day is a pretty obvious thing meaning that the fact shouldn't stand. Facts have been closed in the past with fast accepts or fast declines, why was this particular one different? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:28, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
: Not to [[User:It's Dot Com|point fingers]] or anything, but the vote's already been re-closed with the same consensus. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

:Looking back at the situation, I think it turned out well. When the fact was closed, there was a big disparity between this talk page discussion (4-1 people in favor of the fact) and the STUFF vote (18-0 against the fact). The reason for this is that seasoned users both know how the STUFF process works better and are more likely to decline a given fact. I entirely understand why Huitzilopochtli and others felt left out of the process, and the fact that he is satisfied with the process in the end makes its reopening worth it, in my eyes. We need the contributions of new users and don't want to turn them away.

:At the same time, reopening of facts should be rare — I take this event not as precedent for regularly reopening facts in the future, but a strong reminder to give reasonable facts (as this one was) a little more time in the STUFF process, even when there's a majority of votes against them, and especially when there's good reason to believe that most of the supporters of the fact haven't had a chance to vote. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:30, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
::Umm... "shame on whoever decided to do it"? That's completely unnecessary and unhelpful to say. It was opened to allow for a much clearer consensus (since five hours is, indeed, a very short window of opportunity), which is exactly what we got, and otherwise no change. Please don't demean others that way. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes, shame on whoever decided to do it. I'm sorry, but that's the way I feel about this whole situation. Facts are closed faster than this one was if the votes are so much. And why bother to reopen it if the result is going to be the same no matter what? I could understand if there were people who could've voted yes and swung it in the other direction, but it didn't need to be done here. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 05:10, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

::::Chill. This type of language is neither appropriate in this situation, nor acceptable. There was no need for a personal attack, and really no need to repeat it. It's perfectly fine to disagree with the decision, but please say so in a mature and civil manner. The fact was re-opened as a courtesy, a concept that you might want to familiarize yourself with.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:33, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

:::::Not cool, Loafing. Don't make assumptions about my character just because I don't agree with something. I drop it now. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 05:37, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

::::::Did you read my post? I said it's perfectly fine to disagree with the decision. Nobody is judging you by your opinion on re-opening the STUFF, and I hope you don't judge or deride user who have a different opinion from you. There is a clear and important difference between someone's opinion and his person or character. If you keep that in mind, then future discussions will hopefully be more pleasant. And now I'll go and do something more fun.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:54, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Reminder: this is a wiki about dumb animal characters. If not everything runs exactly as it should, it doesn't really need to. Let's all have a nice cup of tea and sit down. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:04, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I'm not 100% sure how the voting process works exactly, but I don't understand why it has to end at all. I love the HRWiki, but I don't exactly check it every day. This is the first time I'm seeing any of this, and I agree with the fun fact. Does my opinion just not matter to anyone because I wasn't there when everyone decided to debate about it. Maybe this is unlikely, but what if 30 people came along within the next few weeks who, like me, saw this for the first time and agreed with the losing party? Would their opinions be worthless too? Since there's a separate page for STUFF, with a nice little table showing votes for and votes against, couldn't that just be left open? And then a month or 3 from now, if it turns out that more people are for the change than against it, then we'll change it. But if that wouldn't work for whatever reason, it still just seems grossly unfair to say that closed STUFFs can NEVER be reopened. A 3-day window isn't much better than a 5-hour window, since the average user would have little reason to come here more ofen than once a week when homestarrunner.com is updated.--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 07:35, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

YOU PEOPLE ARE ALL IDIOTS!! That's the most obvious reference ever! There's a new Internet phenomenon about "Bubb Rubb", and while it's going on, Homestar makes a reference to "Bub Rub"... are you people retarded? --Anonymous Contributor

If we can say "The Cold Ones Light poster CLOSELY RESEMBLES the Old Style beer logo," why come we can't say "BUBRUB closely resembles Bubb Rubb?"--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 16:39, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

== Coldson like Molson? ==

Could the Coldson Lite can be a reference to Molson beer?
:Yes. The connection is already mentioned on the [[Cold Ones]] page, actually. -{{User:YK/sig}} 18:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== The Name ==

The name should be changed. I think something like "B.O.D.H." or "The Helmet Club" would be better until it shows up on the main page. I don't think ever and more was at all a significant part of the toon. [[User:D&d greg|D&d greg]] 20:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:We usually use the names as they appear on the [[HR:toons.html|official toons menu]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:: Oh yeah sorry. I hadn't cleared my cache and I didn't see anything on the toons menu. [[User:D&d greg|D&d greg]] 21:23, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== Homsar in the cast? ==

Should Homsar be in the Cast of Characters? It's a picture of him, not the actual Homsar, after all. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 22:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:Yup, he's not there, and neither should he be. Linked in the stage directions is fine. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:08, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:Only characters who actually are "acting" in the toon are in the cast, just like in real life. If you see a picture of the president on the wall of an office in a movie, is the president a cast member? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

== Legs?? ==
[[Image:Legs.png|thumb|60px|left]][[Image:NewestHomestar.png|thumb|60px]]
Did anyone watch this and think that Homestar's legs should have been visible a few times but were absent? Look at his...... waist, when he's backing away from the KoT, and also when they're doing the secret handshake. It's like they're not there. {{User:Salty/sig}} 22:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:Whoa, freaky! Good eye, I'd add it, but you saw it first. [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]] 00:05, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::I don't see a problem at all. His legs are not as wide as his torso, and they are usually more to the back of his body. See pictures. I'm gonna remove the fact.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:::O.K., you're the sysoperson. [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]] 22:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::::Erm, sysops aren't all-knowing, you know... Don't just accept my opinion because I'm a sysop.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I know, I just wanted to joke a little. And say Sysoperson. Sorry, I know you're normal people. [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]]
== The bar in the basement ==

Just a note: in this toon, a stairway leading upwards from [[the bar]] is revealed. So, it's likely that the bar is in the basement of some other building.
#Perhaps the most logical building for it to be the basement of is [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], as it is a commercial establishment and TBC alluded to the possibility of exploring it further after Bubs descended into it in [[geddup noise]] (see the DVD commentary).
#Another possibility is that Homestar leaves the meeting to go take a bath in what appears to be the [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]] (in which we have [[Homestar Presents: Presents|previously seen]] an old-fashioned bathtub. So, it might seem that the bar is in the basement of the [[House of the Brothers Strong]]. However, this seems unlikely since we have seen much of that basement already ([[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Strong Bad's Room]]).
#Finally, it's possible that the bar is in the basement of [[Homestar Runner's House]]. In this case, it would seem that the bathroom Homestar goes to is his own, and that he, like Strong Bad has both an old-fashioned bathtub and a shower in his bathroom. Facts supporting this point of view are (a) Homestar has been seen most of the other appearances of the bar with Pom Pom, (b) it would make sense for Homestar to take a bath in his own tub, and (c) if Homestar is the Supreme Overlord of the [[Broternal Order of Different Helmets|Broternal Order]], it would make sense (though is not necessary) that he would hold meetings in his basement.

I think that one of these is intended, since they took the time to draw the staircase, but I'm not sure which one it is (I lean toward #1 and #3). Perhaps we'll have to wait for more data in future toons to decide. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd have to go with numbah one. It's a cool idea and makes perfect sense...Well, as much as a bald guy with no arms or pants. (Strong Mad) [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]]

:It's too easy to poke holes in these arguments though. Couldn't [[The Bar]] just be on X floor and the stairs lead up to X+1 floor? Why assume a basement? And why assume the bathroom is in the same building? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:10, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, there are too many unknowns to say anything for sure. It does seem like a basement though, as it lacks windows all around the room, and it's common for homes to have small bars or masculine-looking dens in their basements. Nevertheless, like you said, the arguments don't hold water on their own. We'll have to see if TBC ever address it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:19, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Until such time as we have a shred of evidence to go on, I've termed it "The Meetingplace of the Broternal Order" and left it at that. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:14, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::::No, it's still [[The Bar]] that they're in. The same one as [[Theme Song Video]] and [[Summer Short Shorts]]. It's the same wood paneling, the same lamp, the same dartboard, and the same pennant on the wall. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:47, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== tricycle recipe ==

here is a recipe for a tricycle fron surflounge.com/recipes
*Tricycle (TX Shooter)
**Equal parts:
**Midori
**Malibu
**Banana Liquer
**Milk
**Do not over pour milk or drink will suck!

 ive never heard of a tricycle recipe, but here one is...{{User:Csours/sig}} 01:48, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

==songs==

That club song is a recycled tune. The last time we heard it (last email) Homestar was hanging upside down singing "blacking out, blacking out, blacking out." & the easter egg song was from Disney's 'Duck Tales'.
:"The NeverEnding Story"? Don't think that's so. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:04, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::Actually, "blacking out, blacking out, blacking out" does sound kinda like "ever and more, ever and more, ever and more". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:30, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't think it does. They sound somepletely different to me. The only similarity is repeating a phrase three times. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 02:38, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Homestar sang The "Neverending Story" theme for the first time, IIRC, when pouring Mountain Dew on the Compy 386. In the cartoon, he was pouring, and the effect looped for a while, prompting Homestar to sing "The NeverEnding Soda." He then used the same tune when hanging upside down, because it was in the same context, i.e., pouring Mountain Dew on SB's computer, only to be stopped by The Paper this time. So it makes sense that he'd be singing the tune then. It would be out of context if the tune were used in the "Ever and More" song. [[User:Huitzilopochtli|Huitzilopochtli]] 17:09, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Homestar in the bathtub is a reference to DuckTales, and Homestar hanging upside down is a reference to The Never Ending Story. Ever and More was last used in [[the movies]] and should be mentioned under [[songs]]. [[User:Elkmiester||\|/[_}-Elkmiester-{_]\|/|]]

==Pirates of the Carribean==

If it was checkable, I'd bet money that the brothers chaps had that new pirates of the carribean movie as inspiration here. Anyone know what I'm talking about? [[User:68.44.199.208|68.44.199.208]] 02:27, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:Not me, but fraternal organizations are a common entity in the US, so likely not a direct reference to any one film. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::Having seen the movie, I see absolutely no connection whatsoever, but maybe that's just me. Not only is there no seen in the movie where there is a bathtub of gold, but none of the storyline or names are represented at all. No multiple manifestations of the main character, Marzipan is not used to represent either of the two major female characters who make the movie. Besides the fact that there is a closeknit brotherhood, drinking, group singing, and gold-- all reminiscent of virtually every pirate show since Pirates of Penzance, what part here makes you think of Pirates?--[[User:71.203.169.248|71.203.169.248]] 17:54, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

:I really doubt it. It reminds me of the Flintstones more than PotC (after all, the Loyal Order of Water Buffaloes wear funny helmets). Plus, this wasn't a group of bellicose chieftains trying to save their kind: it was a meeting of a fraternal organization. If it were checkable, I'd bet money that they didn't have PotC in mind. :) [[User:Pensivepoet.babblingbard|Pensivepoet.babblingbard]] 18:58, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

:My grandfather was a member of the [[Wikipedia:Moose International|Loyal Order of Moose]], and although I never attended a meeting, I always imagined the proceedings to be very similar to what we saw here. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 03:55, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
::Don't forget the Stonecutters from The Simpsons! They were a secret fraternal organization who, although only the leader wore a silly hat, had a frothy/frosty, shanty/shaky chant too: ''Who contols the British clown? / Who keeps the metric system down? / WE DO! / WE DO! (ect)''. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

== Brother of Town ==

This is like the first time that anyone's ever treated the King of Town with any respect at all. Homestar invited him up to demonstrate a secret handshake with them. Maybe this is just cuz he's the only one who could actually DO a 'secret handshake' since neither of em have hands. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 04:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
: Seems fairly obvious, to me, that the KoT was simply chosen for the joke - he's the only main character present besides Homestar with no hands. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:: My first thought when Homestar said "handshake" was that Marzipan'd turn up, but I guess she wouldn't be in a brotherhood, what with the whole "female" thing and such... and I doubt Homsar would be able to pull off the whole handshake thing... so yeah, that only leaves KoT, out of the main 12. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:27, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::When Strong Bad and The Cheat practice it, they don't use their hands/arms, even though they ''clearly'' have them. A lack of visible arms is apparently not a factor. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
::::I think the joke is the have no visible arms, and then we see Strong Bad and The Cheat practice as if they also had no visible arms. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
The other reason the King of Town actually gets treated with respect is because within fraternal organizations like the Masons, everyone is equal, regardless of their profession or position in the outside world. This is also, in my opinion, the reason Homestar can be in charge (and it also makes that fact even funnier; even though he's the dim light bulb of the group, everybody has to respect him within the walls of the Order). [[User:Maristredfox|Maristredfox]] 01:53, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

== Rollover Minutes ==

It has been suggested we discuss this before STUFFing it. What do you think about keeping this as a reference to at&t (formerly Cingular) Wireless' Rollover feature? It is obviously true, but it could be taken by some readers as an advertisement for the company. Thoughts? I am for keeping it personally.
[[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 06:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
: Who, precisely, are you arguing with? I don't see that there's any disagreement over this fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::I don't think the advertising factor is a problem — we're listing factual information to help explain the toon and linking to a non-commercial website. So, I think it should be okay. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:PDG, I notice that you put on the STUFF page that this fact was added and removed. It was not removed; it was moved to a different place in Fun Facts. I think that might be the source of any confusion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, I didn't think to look to see if it had been moved first. My bad guys for pouring Fweska over the entry. [[User:PlasticDiverGuy|PlasticDiverGuy]] 16:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Coach Z's Helmet ==

I have serious doubts on calling Coach Z's helmet a "Gladiator Helmet." The only distinctly gladiator helmet I know of is the Murmillo (fishman) helmet, and that certainly wasn't one. It kinda looks Greek (300 reference maybe?), but I'd guess it's either that or an early middle ages helmet (Saxon is what comes into my head). It's the nose guard. Not prevalent in a lot of roman helmets. I'm not extremely well informed on the subject, but it's just my thoughts, and I think it should probably just be called an iron war helmet or something.
:It's a barbute. Google it for pictures. Closest medieval helmet I could find, but the shape is distinct enough that I can say, beyond any reasonable doubt, that Coach Z's helmet was a barbute -- and therefore I edited this page and the Order's page.
::<s>I disagree. Wikipedia provides pictures way different from Coach Z's helmet. Although, I also have no idea what it could be. First thing I think of is knights of the medieval times...</s> Nope, nevermind. [[Wikipedia:Barbute|Wikipedia's]] description definitely shows Coach Z's helmet is a barbute. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Burping video game music ==

Strong Bad's comment about burping video game music reminded me immediately of Wakko Warner from [[Wikipedia:Animaniacs|Animaniacs]]'s performances burping out various songs, enough that I thought it could be a reference. I don't know if such a gag was specific to Wakko, though, so I thought I'd bring it up here first. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:45, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure belching out songs is a very generic, if crude, joke. TTATOT. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:10, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

==Power Play==
power play could be a reference to fox news's power player of the week {{unsigned|Atomic1fire|06:01, 29 June 2007 (UTC)}}

[[Wikipedia:Power Play|Maybe. Maybe not.]] --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 03:20, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Definitely, definitely not.
Probably the most famous usage of the word power play is in hockey where one team has one (or two) less players. But in this case, the word power play is a "play" for more "power". Strong Bad wants to have the power/responsibility of running the BODH. -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 21:02, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

== URGENT: "last's"????? ==

I turned up the volume and it sounded more like "last". --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 07:07, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

:I agree — I think it was just a typo. I fixed it in the transcript. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:16, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

==Brotherstar Runnerbrother's Helmet==

Would it be of any importance to note that, unlike the helmet's appearance in "the movies", there's no propeller cap underneath?

== Closed STUFF ==
{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Lone voice ===
{{stufffact|When the King of Town is called forward to demonstrate the secret handshake, Strong Sad is the only one to yell 'yay'. This may be a reference to [[impression]], where the King of Town is the only one to yell 'boo' when Strong Sad is introduced.}}
{{stuffverdict|10:51, 24 July 2007 (UTC)|20:40, 27 July 2007 (UTC)|unanimously declined|14|0|Ever and More!}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Bubs Rubb ===
{{stufffact|Bubs holds up a tube of ointment labeled "BUBRUB". This is likely a reference to [[Wikipedia:KRON-TV#Bubb Rubb|Bubb Rubb]], a man featured on a viral video news clip from KRON-TV in San Francisco. The man's antics on-camera became a fairly well-known Internet phenomenon.}}
{{stuffverdict|21:30, 26 June 2007 (UTC)|17:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|29|5|Ever and More!}}

== A frothy/frosty, shanty/shaky chant? ==

There are four possibilities here. Personally I hear "Frothy, Shaky". Anyone else? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:That's what I hear as well. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 04:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:I hear "Frothy, Shanty" [[User:NightDaemon|NightDaemon]] 06:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
: I can hear a /θ/ in "frothy", but I can hear a /æ/ in "shanty". According to the International Phonetic Alphabet. {{User:Mee/sig}} 10:34, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:I definitely hear "frothy, shanty". {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:I thought it was "frothy, shaky" at first, but after playing it back several times I hear "shanty". -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 15:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

== Last Exit to Springfield ==

Does anyone think that the scene when Homestar gets everyone to vote on whether or not Strong Sad believes in the message is a reference to the Simpson's episode [[Wikipedia:Last Exit to Springfield|Last Exit to Springfield]]? In the episode, Carl gets everyone at the power plant to vote on different things, and each time, he would say "All in favor of ______" and everyone would go "AYE!" and then he would say "All opposed?" and each time one man would say "Nay". Does anyone think there's any reference? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:51, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
:I think that gag is as old as the hills. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:45, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

== About this organization ==
I know about an organization known as the Knights of Columbus. Could it be that the B.O.D.H. was made to be similar to organizations like that?
:I would have thought that was obivously the case. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 16:29, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Broternal Order of Different Helmets

Evil Egg — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:27:34 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Fun Facts */

[[Image:Ever and More.png|thumb|Brother of Town and Supreme Overlord Homestar Runner demonstrating the secret handshake.]]

The '''Broternal Order of Different Helmets (BODH)''' is a secret society headed by [[Homestar Runner]], the "Supreme Overlord", though [[Strong Bad]] attempts to gain control of the group at least once a week. Each of the members wears a different helmet, and the organization holds meetings in [[The Bar]]. [[Bubs]], as the treasurer, invents new ways to misappropriate funds. Their activities open with their frothy, shanty chant, Ever and More, and also include a secret handshake. The exact movements of this handshake are unknown, as it is demonstrated by Homestar and the King of Town, both of whom [[Lack of Visible Arms|lack visible arms]]. The Order is run by majority rule.

==Members==
<gallery>

Image:Homestar_Runner_Horned_Helmet_Ever_and_More.png|<center>'''Supreme Overlord [[Homestar Runner]] ([[Horned Helmet]])'''</center>

Image:Sbhelmet.png|<center>'''[[Strong Bad]] (Miner helmet)'''</center>

Image:SM_nacho_helmet.PNG|<center>'''[[Strong Mad]] (Football helmet)'''</center>

Image:SSsmile_everandmore.PNG|<center>'''[[Strong Sad]] (Astronaut helmet)'''</center>

Image:The_Cheat_bobby.PNG|<center>'''[[The Cheat]] ([[Wikipedia:Custodian helmet|Custodian helmet]])'''</center>

Image:Bubs_fireman.PNG|<center>'''Treasurer [[Bubs]] (Fireman helmet)'''</center>

Image:Coach_Z_gladiator.PNG|<center>'''[[Coach Z]] ([[Wikipedia:Barbute|Barbute]])'''</center>

Image:KOT_German_helmet.PNG|<center>'''[[The King of Town|Brother of Town]] (German [[Wikipedia:Pickelhaube|Pickelhaube]])'''</center>

Image:Poopsmith_Judge_Dredd.PNG|<center>'''[[The Poopsmith]] ([[Wikipedia:Judge Dredd|Judge Dredd]] helmet)'''</center>

Image:Pom_Pom_samurai.PNG|<center>'''[[Pom Pom]] (Samurai helmet)'''</center>

</gallery>

==Fun Facts==
* Strong Sad wore the same helmet in [[senior prom]], where he wore a spacesuit to the "Entrapment All Up On The Moon" dance.
* Homestar Runner sang the official chant of the Order in [[the movies]], while wearing his helmet.
* The King of Town's helmet is very similar to the helmet of [[The Kaiser]], the King of Town's [[Old-Timey]] counterpart.
* Apart from [[Marzipan]] (who is likely excluded because of her gender), [[Homsar]] seems to be the only main character not in the society.

==Appearances==
*'''Debut:''' [[Ever and More!]]

[[Category:Organizations]]

The King of Town's Grill

Evil Egg — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:21:26 GMT

Evil Egg:

[[Image:King'sgonemadwithpower.png|thumb|"Oh! That little yellow thing!"]]

'''The King of Town's Grill''' is the barbecue that belongs to [[The King of Town]]. [[The Cheat]] lives and sleeps in it, but he spends most of his time in the [[House of the Brothers Strong]]. [[Strong Sad]] thinks it's a pretty nice place, but none of The Cheat's shirts fit him. The Grill is also home to Cheatsa Pizza, The Cheat's own pizza joint.

It is possible that it is a [[Wikipedia:tesseract|tesseract]], since neither Strong Sad nor a party of pizza-eating hot girls would normally be able to fit inside. It's possible that it contains an expanse of [[hammerspace]], or similar to [[Wikipedia: Doctor (Doctor Who)|Dr. Who's]] [[Wikipedia: TARDIS|TARDIS]].

The grill appears to be a [http://www.weber.com Weber] charcoal grill (or a knockoff) based on its distinctive shape and coloring.

==Appearances==
*'''Debut:''' [[Where's The Cheat?]]
*Email [[2 years]]
*Email [[labor day]]
*Email [[bedtime story]]
*Email [[secret identity]] (mentioned)
*Email [[underlings]]
*[[One Two, One Two]]
*Email [[pizza joint]]

[[Category:Houses|King of Town's Grill]]

The King of Town's Grill

Evil Egg — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:20:32 GMT

Evil Egg:

[[Image:King'sgonemadwithpower.png|thumb|"Oh! That little yellow thing!"]]

'''The King of Town's Grill''' is the barbecue that belongs to [[The King of Town]]. [[The Cheat]] lives and sleeps in it, but he spends most of his time in the [[House of the Brothers Strong]]. [[Strong Sad]] thinks it's a pretty nice place, but none of The Cheat's shirts fit him. The Grill is also home to Cheatsa Pizza, The Cheat's own pizza joint.

It is possible that it is a [[Wikipedia:tesseract|tesseract]], since neither Strong Sad nor a party of pizza-eating hot girls would normally be able to fit inside. It's possible that it contains an expanse of [[hammerspace]], or similar to [[Wikipedia: Doctor Who (character)|Dr. Who's]] [[Wikipedia: TARDIS|TARDIS]].

The grill appears to be a [http://www.weber.com Weber] charcoal grill (or a knockoff) based on its distinctive shape and coloring.

==Appearances==
*'''Debut:''' [[Where's The Cheat?]]
*Email [[2 years]]
*Email [[labor day]]
*Email [[bedtime story]]
*Email [[secret identity]] (mentioned)
*Email [[underlings]]
*[[One Two, One Two]]
*Email [[pizza joint]]

[[Category:Houses|King of Town's Grill]]

The King of Town's Grill

Evil Egg — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:20:06 GMT

Evil Egg:

[[Image:King'sgonemadwithpower.png|thumb|"Oh! That little yellow thing!"]]

'''The King of Town's Grill''' is the barbecue that belongs to [[The King of Town]]. [[The Cheat]] lives and sleeps in it, but he spends most of his time in the [[House of the Brothers Strong]]. [[Strong Sad]] thinks it's a pretty nice place, but none of The Cheat's shirts fit him. The Grill is also home to Cheatsa Pizza, The Cheat's own pizza joint.

It is possible that it is a [[Wikipedia:tesseract|tesseract]], since neither Strong Sad nor a party of pizza-eating hot girls would normally be able to fit inside. It's possible that it contains an expanse of [[hammerspace]], or similar to [[Wikipedia: Doctor Who (character)|Dr. Who's]] [[Wikipedia: TARDIS]].

The grill appears to be a [http://www.weber.com Weber] charcoal grill (or a knockoff) based on its distinctive shape and coloring.

==Appearances==
*'''Debut:''' [[Where's The Cheat?]]
*Email [[2 years]]
*Email [[labor day]]
*Email [[bedtime story]]
*Email [[secret identity]] (mentioned)
*Email [[underlings]]
*[[One Two, One Two]]
*Email [[pizza joint]]

[[Category:Houses|King of Town's Grill]]

The King of Town's Grill

Evil Egg — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:19:46 GMT

Evil Egg:

[[Image:King'sgonemadwithpower.png|thumb|"Oh! That little yellow thing!"]]

'''The King of Town's Grill''' is the barbecue that belongs to [[The King of Town]]. [[The Cheat]] lives and sleeps in it, but he spends most of his time in the [[House of the Brothers Strong]]. [[Strong Sad]] thinks it's a pretty nice place, but none of The Cheat's shirts fit him. The Grill is also home to Cheatsa Pizza, The Cheat's own pizza joint.

It is possible that it is a [[Wikipedia:tesseract|tesseract]], since neither Strong Sad nor a party of pizza-eating hot girls would normally be able to fit inside. It's possible that it contains an expanse of [[hammerspace]], or similar to [[Wikipedia: Doctor Who (character)|Dr. Who's]] [[Wikipedia:TARDIS]].

The grill appears to be a [http://www.weber.com Weber] charcoal grill (or a knockoff) based on its distinctive shape and coloring.

==Appearances==
*'''Debut:''' [[Where's The Cheat?]]
*Email [[2 years]]
*Email [[labor day]]
*Email [[bedtime story]]
*Email [[secret identity]] (mentioned)
*Email [[underlings]]
*[[One Two, One Two]]
*Email [[pizza joint]]

[[Category:Houses|King of Town's Grill]]

Homestar Quiz

Evil Egg — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:35:35 GMT

Evil Egg: /* When you get eight or nine answers correct: */

{{gamenav|Old Game|quiz|Hairstyle Runner|Homestar Talker}}

[[Image:homestarquiz.PNG|thumb|Prinicpal Strong Bad offers cookies for a job well done]]

This is a quiz on one's knowledge of the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work.

'''Page Title:''' Smell that purple ink!!

== Transcript ==

After taking the quiz, {{Film|Strong Bad}} analyzes the results and tells you how you did. Below are the details of what he says depending on how many answers you got right.

=== When you get all ten answers correct: ===
'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, you obviously cheated, which means you're my kind of person. Have a cookie.

''{Strong Bad holds up a cookie sheet with some cookies on it. A 3x5 card comes onto the screen with a recipe:}''
<blockquote>
'''The Poopsmiths Super Deluxe You-Know-What Cookies '''
1 1/2 cup flour 
1 cup sugar 
1 tsp vanilla 
1 tsp cinammon 
2 cups YOU-KNOW-WHAT 
Mix everything together in a toilet bowl. Spoon onto ungreased, rusty cookie sheet. 
Bake at 800 degrees until golden black.</blockquote>

=== When you get eight or nine answers correct: ===
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, man. I knew you had crap for brains, but, I mean, it's like the (beating fist on desk) crap in your ''brains'' (stops hitting desk) has crap for brains.

=== When you get seven answers correct: ===
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a mother's voice}'' Sweetheart, wake up! It's time for diaper school, where it's okay to be as stupid as you are!

=== When you get five or six answers correct: ===
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Da-da da-da da da! You're the stupidest guy and you probably eat stupid pie, so go home and cry, you very stupid GU-UY!!!

=== When you get three or four answers correct: ===
'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, brother. I know kids in diaper school that are smarter than you, man!

=== When you get one or two answers correct: ===
'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, that does it. You're the stupidest guy in the world. Oh, or stupidest girl. Hey, you'll have to pardon me. I can't see very well from here without my glasses.

=== When you get it all wrong: ===
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clears throat, then collapses onto the desk laughing, randomly pounding his fist}'' You're so stupid! What a moron! You're so dumb! You didn't get any right! That's so pathetic! ''{sits back up and clears throat again}''

== List of Questions ==
#In the theme song video, Bubs is dancing in front of which of these arcade games?
#:a. Seicross
#:b. The Adventures of [[Wikipedia:David Hasselhoff|David Hasslehoff]]
#:c. Dokle II
#:d. Clu-Clu Land
#According to his bio, where does Bubs attend night classes?
#:a. Woodrow Roosevelt High
#:b. Disco Tech
#:c. Easy Living Candy Store
#:d. Canada
#On the beach menu page, what does the plane's sign say?
#:a. Dansk! What's that staunch
#:b. eat at bubs'!
#:c. take your shirt off!
#:d. wear a bikini!
#Who did the Cheat dress up as for Halloween?
#:a. Garfield
#:b. Pikachu
#:c. Heathcliff
#:d. Nermal
#In the luau episode, how many glasses of melonade did Homestar say he drank?
#:a. thirty-two
#:b. twenty-two
#:c. forty-two
#:d. tooty-two
#Which of these songs does not appear on "Strong Bad Sings?"
#:a. The Ladies in My Town All Know My Name
#:b. You've got an Ugly and Stupid Butt
#:c. Why Must You Suck So Bad?
#:d. The Only Thing Wrong with You is Everything
#According to the tape he gives Coach Z, how many times does Strong Sad say "job?"
#:a. 194,285
#:b. 285,194
#:c. a million
#:d. 2,167
#Where in the world is the Hairstyle Runner maufactured?
#:a. Prance
#:b. Dortugal
#:c. Potamia
#:d. Bungary
#Why doesn't the Poopsmith talk?
#:a. The smell is too much
#:b. Creative differences
#:c. He thinks his voice sounds funny
#:d. He took a vow of silence
#Marzipan warns herself not to let Homestar eat any leftovers of what?
#:a. strudel
#:b. bon bons
#:c. tort
#:d. meringue

=== Answers ===

#c. Dokle II
#:Found in ''[[Theme Song Video]]''. [[HR:video.html|See the video]].
#b. Disco Tech
#:This is the only answer you cannot find anywhere in the current version of the site. As the question itself states, it should be found in [[Yearbook Character Page#Bubs|Bubs's biography]], but when the new [[Character Videos|Characters page]] was created they failed to include this vital piece of information in Bubs's new bio. The old bio is still accessible, but you have to know the URL since there aren't any links to it anywhere on the site. [[HR:yearbookb.html|See the page]].
#d. wear a bikini!
#:Found on ''[[Main Page 3]]'' when you hover over "Store". [[HR:main3.html|See the page]].
#a. Garfield
#:Found in ''[[Homestarloween Party]]''. [[HR:homestarloween.html|See the video]].
#a. thirty-two
#:Found in ''[[The Luau]]''. [[HR:luau2.html|See the video]].
#c. Why Must You Suck So Bad?
#:Found in ''[[Strong Bad Sings]]''. [[HR:sbsings.html|See the video]].
#b. 285,194
#:Found in ''[[A Jorb Well Done]]''. [[HR:cantsayjob.html|See the video]].
#a. Prance
#:Found in the [[Hairstyle Runner]] game. [[HR:hairgame.html|Play the game]].
#d. He took a vow of silence
#:Originally found in the [[Who Said What Now?]] game ''(accessible through the [[Handheld Games Menu]])''. [[HR:whosaidwhat.html|Play the game]]. It's also in [[The Poopsmith]]'s video biography on the [[Characters]] page. [[HR:vcr_poop.html|See the video]].
#a. strudel
#:Found in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 2.0]], message 4. [[HR:answer2.html|See the video]].

== Easter Eggs ==
* If you don't get a perfect score on the quiz, you can move the mouse over the name plate, microphone and "diploma" in Strong Bad's office and Strong Bad will say different things.
** Name plate:
**: '''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, keep your greasy fingers off that.
** Microphone:
**: '''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, don't touch that!
** Diploma:
**: '''STRONG BAD:''' Pretty impressive, huh? I bet you're pretty impressed.

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Spirit duplicator|Ditto machines]] were once popular in schools for making copies, and these machines typically used purple ink. Copies made in a ditto machine also had a very strong, distinctive smell, which explains the page title.

===Trivia===
*If you right click and zoom in on Strong Bad's paper on his desk at the end, you can read what it says. It reads:
<blockquote>
''Strong Bad isn't so strong after all. If he tried hard, which of the following could he lift?'' 
 
'' '''a.''' an ounce'' '' '''c.''' a week'' 
'' '''b.''' a weak'' '' '''d.''' pepper''
</blockquote>
*This is the first appearance of [[cinnamon]].
*This is the first time an [[index card]] has appeared.

===Remarks===
*The sign on Strong Bad's desk is misspelled as "Prinicpal Strong Bad". This "mistake" appears again in [[CGNU]] and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]], and has apparently been accepted as the spelling for Strong Bad's title.
*Both "Why Must You Suck So Bad?" and "The Only Thing Wrong With You Is Everything" do not appear on [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]], but only one is considered correct, because this quiz is referring to the [[Strong Bad Sings]] toon.
*If you get a perfect score, Strong Bad jogs the papers on the desk wearing his boxing gloves as normal. His hands move down behind the desk, and seconds later, without moving, he is seen wearing oven mitts.

===Goofs===
*[[Cinnamon]] is spelled incorrectly as "cinammon" on the recipe card.
*Manufactured is spelled incorrectly as "maufactured" on question number 8.

===Glitches===
*If you really are Strong Bad's kind of person, there's a glitch in the quiz that will allow you to cheat. Simply hold the mouse button down on an answer and it'll tell you if it's right or wrong. If you choose incorrectly, keep holding the mouse button and move your mouse away from the answers before you let go. It won't count it as an answer, so you can pick again. The red X that appears will remain, however.
*Very rarely, even if you don't get a perfect score, Strong Bad will stop in the middle of his line and start saying the "perfect score line".

===Inside References===
*The name [[Crazy Go Nuts University]] is a reference to the line "Things were just about to start getting [[Crazy Go Nuts|crazy-go-nuts]]" from [[The Luau]].
*The phrase "Dansk! What's that staunch?" is used in the song "[[Poot-Slap]]".
*The [[oven mitts]] Strong Bad wears when offering the cookies are the same he wore in the [[In Search of the Yello Dello]].
*Strong Bad's voice going high at the end of his song may be a reference to when he does the same thing in his song "How Awesome I Am" in [[Strong Bad Sings]].
*On the paper below all of the question papers, the words "had", "than", and part of "problems" are visible. This is most likely a reference to [[Coach Z]] saying he has "more than 2 problems" in the [[Who Said What Now?]].
**If you view the source, then the following text is viewable, which when put in a proper order does imply this fun fact:
<pre>
If Homestar drank 18 glasses of melonade, if coach z really had bkbkbkbkbkkbmore than
hjhjhjhjhj b problems, hjhkhjkhjkhs does he have?</pre>
*"You-know-what" is another, rarely used name for [[whatsit]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Clu Clu Land|Clu Clu Land]] and [[Wikipedia:Seicross|Seicross]] are [[Nintendo|NES]] games.

== External Links ==
* Take the [[HR:quiz.html|Quiz]]
* Take the [[HR:quiz.swf|Quiz (Flash file)]]

{{subtitlesLinks|quiz}}

[[Category: Games]]

Some Extras

Evil Egg — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:29:02 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Transcript */

[[Image:VImage014.png|thumb|Tornado round?]]

'''Some Extras'''

'''Cast (in order of appearances):''' Puppet {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Matt Chapman}}, {{Film|Mike Chapman}}, {{Film|Little Girl}}, Puppet {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Limozeen}}

'''Running Time:''' 3:04

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Three|exclusive=TRUE}} (Easter egg)
== Transcript ==
''{Screen says "Some Extras". The scene is from the Easter egg in "3 Times Halloween Funjob", with puppet Homestar dressed as John McEnroe.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{moving violently}'' Come on! ''{pause}'' My hair's coming off.

''{Tilt down to see Matt controlling the puppet. Cut to Mike fixing the puppet's hair.}''

'''MATT:''' ''{offscreen}'' Puppet dresser: Mike Chapman.

'''MIKE:''' All right. ''{moves offscreen}''

'''MATT:''' ''{offscreen}'' She good?

'''MIKE:''' ''{offscreen}'' Yeah.

''{Cut to some more adjusting of the puppet. Some indiscernible talking.}''

''{Next scene: Homestar puppet held against the elbow of a statue of a hockey player, during a snow fall}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh! ''{pause}'' Elbowed!

''{Next scene: Homestar puppet with Little Girl against green screen. This is from the filming of Homestar vs. Little Girl.}''

'''LITTLE GIRL:''' Homestar...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yes?

'''LITTLE GIRL:''' Homestar...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Right here man.

'''LITTLE GIRL:''' Homestar...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What! ''{no response}'' What is it?

'''LITTLE GIRL:''' ''{giggles}'' It's funny.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yes, it's always funny. Hahahaha...I agree, that's...pretty funny.

''{Cut to a new shot of them. Homestar is now wearing a Santa hat.}''

'''LITTLE GIRL:''' Homestar...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yes.

'''LITTLE GIRL:''' Why don't you draw with some crayons?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh yeah? I don't got— I don't got any crayons, kid.

'''LITTLE GIRL:''' I do!

''{Offscreen laughter, then a cut.}''

'''LITTLE GIRL:''' How's an Uncle Matt song go?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I don't know, what's an Uncle Matt song?

''{Cut}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' So, what are you doing tonight?

''{Cut}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hang on one second.

''{Puppet goes down. Comes up a second later.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right, I'm back.

''{Little Girl starts to touch puppet}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Annnd...and we're clear.

'''LITTLE GIRL:''' ''{gesturing}'' You like your hat?

''{Cut}''

'''LITTLE GIRL:''' Turn it around!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Tornado round?

''{Cut}''

'''LITTLE GIRL:''' ''{gets closer, more gesturing}'' Turn it around.

''{Homestar puppet turns partially around}''

'''LITTLE GIRL:''' Turn it this way.

''{Homestar turns back the other way}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ahhh ugh... That hurts, when I do that.

''{Cut to the sound studio where "A Sample of Style" was filmed. Mike leans against the wall.}''

'''MATT:''' ''{offscreen}'' Just don't ever touch it again.

'''MIKE:''' I...

'''MATT:''' ''{offscreen}'' Just don't...

'''MIKE:'''...didn't touch

'''MATT:''' ''{offscreen}'' Just don't...

'''MIKE:''' You touched it.

'''MATT:''' ''{offscreen}'' I didn't...you clearly touched it.

''{Cut. Now we see Matt.}''

'''MATT:''' Oh, that's a stupid, stupid question. {goes to briefcase and takes out tube} We'll take a real dough...''{laughs}'' like this Strong Bad. ''{pauses, then passes tube under his leg}''

''{Cut. Matt leans against the wall.}''

'''MATT:''' ''{offscreen}'' I don't like you any more.

'''MIKE:''' ''{starts laughing}''

'''MATT:''' ''{offscreen}'' Sorry. Alright, again. Again! ''{pause}'' Just, just stay away from it.

'''MIKE:''' I didn't...aways to it. ''{both laugh}''

''{cut}''

'''MIKE:''' Okay, I...didn't do it. I mean, I saw you do it.

''{pause}''

'''MATT:''' ''{offscreen}'' Make sense of that one for me? ''{both laugh}''

''{Cut. Mike has phone out}''

'''MIKE:''' Hey Matt, some trucker wants to know how you make the voices for those terrible old-timey black and white cartoons you always make.

'''MATT:''' Great question Mike!

''{He gets out a tube and turns to the camera. Pause.}''

'''MIKE:''' ''{off screen}'' Great answer, Matt. ''{Matt laughs}''

''{Cut to shots from the filming of [[Puppet Time]]. They are filming the part where The Cheat steals the disk container. The words on the scene say "a hand is in the shot". Repeated attempts are made to make The Cheat puppet steal the container without the hand (or more specifically, the wrist) being seen.}''

'''MATT:''' ''{at end}'' We can— We can work with that.

''{Cut to Gary from Limozeen posing in front of a green screen with a guitar. Cut to Perry (Limozeen) in front of green screen with bass. He starts posing. Cut to Larry (Limozeen), posing with a microphone in front of the green screen. Cut to Mary (Limozeen) posing in front of the green screen.}''

''{End}''

==Fun Facts==
===Inside References===
*Puppet Homestar dressing as [[John McEnroe]] was first seen in a [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] [[3 Times Halloween Funjob#Easter Eggs|Easter egg]].

== See also ==
* [[strongbad_email.exe]]

[[Category:Puppet Stuff]]

Talk:Homestar vs. Other Little Girl

Evil Egg — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:25:19 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Science again! I said science again!! */

==Secret Page?==
Um...how do you get to this page? Is it on the website somewheres? [[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] 17:15, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:Amm.. Have you seen [[Homestar_vs._Other_Little_Girl#External_Links|this]] section?
{{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:16, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::But why is it only on Flash and not on the H*R site? [[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] 01:41, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
:::It's a Puppet Stuff video. They only appear as popups on the site. There's no .html file for them, only the .swf. It ''is'' on the site; it just only has one external link to it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Has Matt: It's linked from the Main Page ("Other Little Girl!"), and it should be linked from the Puppet Stuff section of the Toons menu as well. (If it's not there now, it will be eventually.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:25, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

==Science again! I said science again!!==
Maybe somebody scientifically minded can help me: what law is it that says you can't be in more than one place at once? Because essentially that's what the girl's song teaches. An examination of the Wikipedia article on the [[Wikipedia:Laws of thermodynamics|laws of thermodynamics]] doesn't seem to be what I'm looking for. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:21, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::Try Pauli's Exclusion Principle. -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 18:22, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Actually, the song seems to answer that age-old question, "How can you be in two places at once, when you're not anywhere at all?" -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 18:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::I wonder if this means TBC (and/or the other little girl) are Firesign Theatre fans? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:08, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::This FST bit also alludes to another paradox of physics (at least to the ancients). Any Fireheads know what it is? -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 19:27, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::The one with the ever-widening hole in it? :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:37, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::(PS: I don't actually remember.)
::::::Think "Antelope Freeway." -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 22:52, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Actually, Pauli's Exclusion Principle states that two electrons can't occupy the same quantum state at the same time, which isn't what the song is talking about. I'm not sure if there's a named law of physics that matches the song or not. [[User:Atomiktoaster|Atomiktoaster]] 20:36, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
You know, the fact of not being in two places at once isn't exactly on the level of quantum physics. This might be just some basic principals the girl has learned. I mean, she is remarkably intelligent for her age, but I doubt she's been delving into quantum theory. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]

Just a note: Wikipedia's Search function is totally fubar'd. I tried to do a search on "physics two places at once", and I was getting articles back with words highlighted that were ''nowhere close'' to what I'd typed. ("Molly Bloom's Soliloquy": "...'''compilation''' of the thoughts of Molly Bloom, the '''concert-singing''' wife ... It concludes Ulysses on a '''relatively passionate''' note. ...") {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:05, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:I think that's just an unavoidable feature of all search engines. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 22:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Ahhh...it can't be THAT complicated. I'm shure that the OLG as well as the Super Chapio Bros. Were not thinking about some principle. But go ahead and look for it anyways...it's what you guys do, apparently.

-[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 23:20, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:Um, I don't think not being in two places at once goes quite as far down as quantum physics. It's just simple logic. One place at twice, maybe, but there's not enough of you to go around two places. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 22:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

== THE BIG QUESTION...who? ==

Allow me to start the discussion that will be most important for this page; Just who is this little girl? -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 21:06, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:No one could be sure, but it's probably a relitive of some sort to TBC. Or something close to there. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 21:08, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

::Nobody we know or care about. ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:08, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:::We didn't care about [[Little Girl]] before she got in her toons. It's important to try to figure out who this is. You should care. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 21:10, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

::::I was poking fun at your starting line, actually - "The discussion that will be most important for this page". I was just trying to be facetious about it by making it seem unimportant. ;) I am genuinely curious as to who that person is. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:51, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:Well, it really isn't something we need/want to know... It's not important. We still aren't even real sure who Little Girl is anyways. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 21:13, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::[[Little Girl|TBC's Niece]]. We don't need to know ''exactly who'' she is, just her relation to TBC. So we know why she's in a video. -[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 21:30, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::A thought, on that, actually: would she be in the cast of characters of [[Everything Else, Volume 1]]?. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:16, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Um, what now? {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 21:20, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

::::[[Little Girl]] would be in the cast listing at [[Everything Else, Volume 1]]'s IMDB page, if they had created one yet. They would have to put her real name, because she starred in the DVD. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:29, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Oh, yeah. But it would have to be on the next... volume, because they just recently made this. After they released Volume 1. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 21:35, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Little Girl was on [[strongbad_email.exe]], but wasn't mentioned on that IMDB page. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 22:13, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yes, I think TBC would prefer her to remain nameless anyhow. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Otherwise tons of fans would come to see her. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:10, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:Another LITTLE GIRL?! What's next, Second [[Witches' Brew]]?! [[What's Her Face]] jr.? But seriously, what's her relation to TBC? If it turns out she isn't a relative, she could be friends with Lil' Girl #1 or friends with a different familly member. [[User:20X6_GEM|(coming soon) Happy D'wean. Heart, GEM]]
::Actually, I move we shut down this conversation for the same reason I mentioned [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:If_I_Ran_the_Camera&diff=207763&oldid=207739 here]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:31, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I concur. At the very least, this conversation is better suited to the forums anyhow. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 19:35, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:Wait, when I first saw this toon, I thought Other Little Girl looked remarkably like Melissa, you know, who does Marzipan's voices. I mean, they look similar, maybe Other Little Girl is a little sister or cousin or neice of Missy P--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 14:19, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Tandy 400

Evil Egg — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:37:38 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Screenshots */

[[Image:sbemail1.PNG|thumb|Many green lines]]
The '''Tandy 400''' was [[Strong Bad]]'s first computer. He used it to answer emails until the 33rd email, "[[gimmicks]]," when it suddenly crashed and subsequently exploded.

==History==
After using [[Tangerine Dreams]] to check his email during "[[weird dream]]," Strong Bad got "the old girl" working again in "[[sisters]]," although the repaired Tandy was still [[Strong Bad's Computer Malfunctioning|malfunctioning]]. Strong Bad made do with the damage for a while until he returned from his [[vacation]] in "[[invisibility]]," replacing the Tandy 400 with the [[Compy 386]]. Tandy 400 made several disparaging remarks when it was thrown out, including: "386? More like three eighty SUCKS!"

The Tandy 400 haunted [[Strong Badia]] for some time. The computer appeared floating in mid-air in "[[ghosts]]," displaying a [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] on its screen. [[Bubs]] later salvaged the Tandy 400 and sold it to [[The King of Town]] for $900, who attempted to [[King of Town Email|check his email]] with it in an Easter egg in The [[King of Town Main Page]].

The Tandy 400 seems to be Strong Bad's least favorite computer, as evidenced by his indifference whilst knocking the Tandy off the desk in "invisibility" and his comments about it in "[[pop-up]]". He claims that he "liked that computer" in [[gimmicks]] when it blew up, but his loathing of the machine is likely to have originated in "sisters" when it malfunctioned and automatically deleted Ali's email. In contrast, he seemed a lot more broken up about the Compy's demise in [[virus]] than he did when the Tandy exploded.

After a long absence, the Tandy reappeared in [[retirement]] after Lappynapping the [[Lappy 486]] with the help of the Compy 386. In exchange for the safe return of the Lappy, Strong Bad agreed to check one last email on each of the two abandoned computers. Strong Bad answered the question "do you remember the email you deleted the hardest" by filling the Tandy with [[Mountain Dew]] and [[The King of Town]]'s denture tablets and singing the hymn "Deleted" with organ accompaniment. The Tandy exploded in a bad graphics mushroom cloud, being killed and fully destroyed. Its restored ghost appeared at the end of the email with the ghost of the Compy.

Interestingly, Strong Bad has never referred to the Tandy by name.

== Quick Facts ==

'''Debut:''' Email [[some kinda robot]]

'''Interactive Feature''': Clicking the contrast buttons in the lower-left corner of the computer will change the background color gradually from black to green. The left button makes the screen darker and the right button makes it greener.

'''[[Font]]:''' [[Fonts#Westminster|Westminster]]

== Programs ==

Some of the programs Strong Bad had on the Tandy 400, all of which were started by typing "run" plus the filename in double quotes:

*'''strongbad's_email''' (Used in emails 1-40 except for [[the bird|email 24 (the bird)]], which was checked on [[Pom Pom]]'s [[Pom Pilot]], and [[weird dream|email 34 (weird dream)]] which was checked on The Cheat's [[Tangerine Dreams]]. It was used again in [[retirement]].)

*'''temple_of_apshai''' ([[homestar hair]])

*'''internet''' ([[credit card]]) (Strong Bad's homepage must be [[credit card#Cost of "Coolest Stuff Ever"|the_coolest_stuff_ever.com]])

*'''duckpond''' ([[duck pond]])

== The Real Computer ==

[[Wikipedia:Tandy Corporation|Tandy Corporation]] helped to start the personal computer revolution with its [http://www.8bit-micro.com/model1.htm TRS-80] (affectionately known as the "Trash-80") in 1977. Tandy 400 probably gets its name from the [http://www.8bit-micro.com/tandy2000.htm Tandy 2000] and [http://www.8bit-micro.com/tandypc.htm 1000], Tandy's first [[Wikipedia:IBM PC compatible|"IBM-PC compatible"]] machines produced in 1984. However, Tandy did not produce a "400" model, so the naming is probably just to show how old the computer is.

The rainbow star logo on Tandy 400 is a play on an early [[Wikipedia:Apple Computer|Apple Computer]] logo which featured a [[Wikipedia:Image:Apple Computer Logo.svg|rainbow-colored apple with a missing bite]].

Some believe that the Tandy 400 is an Apple Computer due to the nature of the [[Wikipedia:ProDOS|ProDOS]]-like operating system and the monitor. In the [[strongbad_email.exe|DVD]] commentary of "[[cartoon]]," Strong Bad refers to it as an "Apple monitor."

Because of the fact that no computer tower is visible, the Tandy (and later, the [[Compy]]) may be an homage to the Apple Macintosh, since all of the internal workings were contained in the monitor case itself.

==Screenshots==
<gallery>
Image:Robotframe16.png|The computer that checks all the emails...
Image:Exploded_Tandy.PNG|Exploded
Image:Fixedished_Tandy.PNG|Semi-repaired
Image:Garbage_Tandy.PNG|Trashed
Image:Ghost_Tandy.PNG|Ghostly
Image:Really_Old_Tandy.PNG|Flashback
Image:Salvaged_Tandy.PNG|Kinged
Image:Tandy logo.PNG|Logo
Image:Tandy400explode.PNG|Tandsplosion 2.0
Image:BGG restored Tandy.png|Ghostly again, restored to its original glory
</gallery>

== Appearances outside [[:Category:Tandy 400 Emails|Tandy-era Emails]] ==

*[[TV Time Toons Menu]]
*Email [[ghosts]]
*Email [[personal favorites]]
*Email [[no loafing]]
*[[King of Town Email]]
*[[Main Page 22]]
*Email [[rock opera]]
*[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]
*Email [[do over]]
*Email [[lady...ing]]
*Email [[pop-up]]
*Email [[candy product]]
*[[strongbad_email.exe Disc One|strongbad_email.exe Disc One introduction]]
*[[strongbad_email.exe Disc Two|strongbad_email.exe Disc Two introduction]]
*Email [[retirement]]

The following Tandy 400 emails are only available on [[strongbad_email.exe Disc One|strongbad_email.exe Disc One]] and are outside the normal numbering scheme:

*[[Greeting Cards]]
*[[E-mail Birds]]

{{strongbadcomputers}}

[[Category:Computers]]
[[Category:Pseudocharacters]]

Talk:Zappy XT6

Evil Egg — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:32:21 GMT

Evil Egg: New page: D'you think it'd be worth noting on't page that keyboards like that actually exist? http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Holographic-Keyboard-20314.shtml Don't you just want one so badly? I ...

D'you think it'd be worth noting on't page that keyboards like that actually exist?
http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Holographic-Keyboard-20314.shtml Don't you just want one so badly? I know I do. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 16:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Under Construction

Evil Egg — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:11:56 GMT

Evil Egg:

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|underconstruction|3 Times Halloween Funjob|Decemberween In July}}
[[Image:underconstruction02.png|thumb|"WHAAAAAAAT are you doing?"]]

H*R.com is down? Not registered? Coming Soon? What? Is today April Fool's Day? ... Then things get [[20X6]]'d...

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Sticklyman]], {{Film|Stinkoman}}, {{Film|1-Up}}, {{Film|Pan Pan}}

''' Date:''' Thursday, April 1, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 1:47

'''Page Title:''' Coming Soon! The biggest name is Web Advertising!!

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 2}}
__FORCETOC__
== Transcript ==
''{The setting: "www.homestarrunner.com is coming soon! This domain is reserved through thoraxcorp.com". An animated stick figure in a yellow "Under Construction" diamond shovels diligently. After about ten seconds, a pair of shiny boxing gloves appear at the bottom of the screen...}

'''STINKOMAN:''' Habila-HUP!

''{...and Stinkoman leaps into the air, executing a dramatic pose before landing.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{to stick figure}'' Hey, Sticklyman, ''{waves his arms quickly}'' ''whaaaaat'' are you doing?

''{"Sticklyman" stands up, tosses his shovel into the air, leaps out of his diamond, performs a mid-air flip, lands, deftly catches his shovel and assumes a fighting stance.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Correct me if I'm wrong but are you asking for a ''challeeeeeeenge?!'' ''{assumes fighting stance}''

''{Camera zooms in on Sticklyman, who spins his shovel. The shot freezes in a sketchy style with a high-pitched chime sound. Pan quickly to a close-up of Stinkoman, who executes another fighting pose, then the shot sketch-freezes again. Cut back to Sticklyman's feet, showing him running toward Stinkoman. Cut to Stinkoman's feet, running toward Sticklyman. Cut to a close-up of Sticklyman, who now appears to be getting ready to strike. Cut to Stinkoman continuing to run, then jumping up. Cut to a wider shot showing both characters jumping into each other. They hover in mid-air for a moment, then strike each other. Sketch-freeze as they collide, then the shot unfreezes and the two characters fall back to the ground. Cut to another shot. Sticklyman lands in the background, followed quickly by Stinkoman landing in a kneeling position in the foreground. The camera rack-focuses to Stickly-Man, who wobbles for a moment and then falls over. Cut to a close-up of Stinkoman.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Dot dot dot! ''{accompanied by a subtitle reading ". . ."}''

''{Zoom out to whole page.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Twenty exty-six! ''{poses with chime sound}'' I twenty-exty-six'd-ed you ''good''.

''{1-Up and Pan Pan enter from the left.}''

'''1-UP:''' Diiid we miss a challenge?

'''STINKOMAN:''' Where ya been, ladies? I had to take care of Sticklyman myself!

'''1-UP:''' Well, so how was it?

'''STINKOMAN:''' Ahh, it was okay. The fighting was decent, but it wasn't much of a challenge. ''{lies down}''

'''PAN PAN''': ''{Badalang, badalang, badalang}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Who-hah? ''{jumps back up}'' Good question, Pan Pan. I don't know what he was digging for. Habila-HUP!

''{Stinkoman leaps into the yellow diamond. Cut to a close-up of Stinkoman, who takes a bite from the mound that Sticklyman was shoveling.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Hey, this isn't dirt, it's puddiiiing! ''{small clouds appear around Stinkoman's head as he says this}''

''{Cut to a close-up of 1-Up.}''

'''1-UP:''' I want pudding! ''{A green glob descends from his nose}''

''{Camera zooms out to include Stinkoman in the foreground. 1-Up faces the opposite direction from the previous shot.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' We deserve a break. Eating pudding with a spoon! ''{produces a spoon from nowhere}''

''{Pan Pan falls onto 1-Up.}''

''{Sketch-freeze on a shot showing all three characters holding bowls and spoons. Credits roll while a short tune plays:}''

<blockquote>executive producer 
h. yamauchi 
 
producer 
s. miyahon 
 
director 
s. miyahon 
ten ten 
 
designer 
ten ten 
 
programmer 
t. nakazoo 
maru maru 
 
sound composer 
konchan 
paul pan 
storm storm 
 
quality 
wibe snodgrass 
 
actual items 
foss tony 
 
scare tactics 
poncho 
 
elevator action 
tesoro dub 
 
crotchety gnomes 
perl bess 
 
cover ups 
kevin </blockquote>

''{"back" and "again" buttons appear at the bottom of the screen.}''

== Fun Facts ==
=== Explanations ===
*This toon was put up instead of the regular intro page on April 1st, 2004.
*thoraxcorp.com is the web site of [[Thorax Corporation]], a fake company created by [[The Brothers Chaps]].
*[[Wikipedia:Ellipsis#Ellipsis in Japanese|"..."]] is a common tool used in Japanese anime and manga. It literally means the character is "saying" nothing at all. For example, it would be used for dramatic effect in serious scenes where the character is in deep contemplation about something, or for comedic effect in slapstick anime when the character is stunned and at a loss for words. However, Stinkoman instead pronounces the ellipsis as if it were a witty one-liner.

=== Trivia ===
*The toon originally took up the entire page and there were no grey buttons at the bottom.
* "paul pan" and "storm storm" refer to Paul Sabourin and Storm DiCostanzo, the singers who performed [[Ballad of The Sneak]]. They are erstwhile members of the a cappella singing group [[DaVinci's Notebook]]
*At the end, if you click on the back button it will always go back to the [[Main Page 17|20X6 Main Page]].
*The three boxes at the bottom of the site read:
<blockquote>'''Spam Free Living!!''' 
Tired of spam- 
getting ventures gone 
horpfully wrong!! 
Get with the program for as low 
as $9.95 a month. $4.95 each 
additional minute. No delabors.</blockquote>
<blockquote>'''Affordable Hostings!''' 
New house? New 
domain? WHO HAS 
TIME??!? With all new 
Greg Hosting you can get the 
website you need at the lowest 
interest rate in 40 years! 6.2% APR</blockquote>
<blockquote>'''Guaranteed Results!''' 
Use twice daily with exorbitant 
food intake. After dinner mints 
highly recommended. Will you 
please quit making that 
horribly annoying noise!? 
No Prescriptions! No 
Credit Check! $12,000</blockquote>

=== Remarks===
*Stinkoman seemingly pulls the spoon out of [[Hammerspace|nowhere]].

=== Goofs ===
*When the green glob descends from 1-Up's nose, it appears to emerge closer to one side of his face, suggesting that it's coming from his right nostril. When the camera zooms out, 1-Up is now facing the opposite direction, and the green glob transfers to the other side of his face.
*When the camera is shifting from 1-Up to Stinkoman after the booger scene, the booger is on 1-Up's shirt for a single frame.
*It would look like Stinkoman said the sharp chime after saying "Twenty exty-six!"

===Fixed Goofs===
*When first released, viewers couldn't see Sticklyman during parts of the fight scene as well as after it, due to layer order. This was fixed the same day.

=== Inside References ===
*The "Spam Free Living!!" ad contains the word "horpfully," a reference to [[Coach Z|Coach Z's]] thick accent.
**The same ad also mentions "No [[Thorax Corporation#The Delabor Family|delabors]]," a line also used in the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[flag day]].
*When Stinkoman says "I Twenty exty-six'd you good.", it is a reference to the Teen Girl Squad deaths [Ex. Arrow'd!]
*On the last line of the credits it says Cover ups by [[Kevin]]

=== Real-World References ===
*Stinkoman saying "WHAAAAAAAT are you doing?" references the Streamline dub of [[Wikipedia:Akira (film)|Akira]], where the character Yamagata asks Tetsuo in a similar manner: "WHAAAAAAAT the hell are you talking about?"
*Sticklyman is almost certainly a reference to the popular Flash cartoon series [[Wikipedia:Xiao Xiao|Xiao Xiao]], where stick figures battle in elaborately-choreographed fight scenes.
*Sticklyman's shovel suggests a shortened [[Wikipedia:Zanbato|Zanbato]], a giant sword wielded by Sanosuke in the anime ''[[Wikipedia:Rurouni Kenshin|Rurouni Kenshin]]''.
*The entire fight scene is taken from the [[Wikipedia:Nintendo Entertainment System|NES]] game ''[[Wikipedia:Ninja Gaiden|Ninja Gaiden]]'', whose introduction sequence shows two ninjas having a duel. The freeze-frame during the jump and the "..." at the end are included in the sequence.
*The first listing in the credits reads "Executive Producer H. Yamauchi." [[Wikipedia:Hiroshi Yamauchi|Hiroshi Yamauchi]] was the former president of [[Wikipedia:Nintendo|Nintendo]] and appeared in the credits as executive producer in many of Nintendo's older games.
**Also included in the credits are the names of two other famous Nintendo employees: S. Miyahon (mistranslation of [[Wikipedia:Shigeru Miyamoto|Shigeru Miyamoto]]) and Ten Ten (Takashi Tezuka), both of whom worked on the original ''[[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda|Legend of Zelda]]'' game.
**These credits also appeared at the end of [[japanese cartoon]].
*The credit "[[Wikipedia:Elevator Action|Elevator Action]]" is a reference to a [[Wikipedia:Taito Corporation|Taito]] game of the same name.
*Maru Maru is a misspelling of Maru Mari, the Japanese name for the [[Wikipedia:Morph Ball|Morph Ball]] powerup in the game ''[[Wikipedia:Metroid|Metroid]]''.
*The name Sticklyman, may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Hangly-Man|Hangly-Man]], a Japanese [[Wikipedia:Pac-Man|Pac-Man]] clone, due to similarities in spelling and pronunciation, and the fact that both of them are examples of [[Deliberately Poor English|poor translation]] (i.e. Hangly-Man is supposed to be Hungry-Man, Sticklyman—Stick Man).

=== Fast Forward ===
*The short tune at the end of this toon would later be reused at the end of [[Happy Trogday]], while [[Trogador]] is chasing Stinkoman.
**It also ends a scene in [[trading cards]] featuring Stinkoman and [[Cheatball]].

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' Oh, this was a real gag, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' Well, a lot of people didn't wait the—whatever this is—eight seconds to find out that this is, uh... you know, it wasn't really... that we didn't really lose the domain. This is of course an April Fool's cartoon.

'''MATT:''' We got a lot of concerned e-mails...

'''MIKE:''' Uh-huh.

'''MATT:''' ...that the site had been shut down. The Thorax Corp. got a lot of traffic that day, I remember.

'''MIKE:''' Ha!

'''MATT:''' I'm surprised Thorax Corp. didn't get shut down.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MATT:''' So, we didn't really even think of it like this, but uh, this is a double thing being Stinkoman fighting the "under construction" guy, that was a very popular "under construction" animated GIF that is used. And also kind of a parody on the stick figure fighting thing—

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' —so I really didn't think about that until after the fact.

'''MIKE:''' Did we do any bullet time in this?

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' The bullet times are always the favorites in the stick figure animations.

'''MATT:''' Kung Fu Stick Figure Theaters.

'''MIKE:''' Look at that.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' ''{Skinkoman and Sticklyman land on the ground and the lens focuses on Sticklyman.}'' Focus.

'''MATT:''' That's some nice rack focusing. ''{Stinkoman says, "..."}'' That's a Ninja Gaiden reference there, the Ninja Gaiden, for regular Nintendo, there were cut scenes with a lot of dot dot dots in the dialogue. ...Affordable hostings, Mike! New house? New domain? Who has time?!

'''MIKE:''' Those little logos you drew, the pill bottle, the house, and the letter are very similar to the ones you used to have to really do for your job at EarthLink.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, I call them my old skills! ''{laughs}'' ...Brought 'em out of retirement. ''{Stinkoman exclaims, "It's pudding!"}'' The mushroom styles...

''{The snot bubble oozes from 1-Up's nose.}''

'''MATT AND MIKE:''' ''{laugh}''

'''MATT:''' This introduced the, uh, new T mouth... Stinkoman, the mouth where like it's gritted teeth and so there's a bunch of T's. ''{whispers}'' The T mouth, I call it the T mouth.

'''MIKE:''' ''{quickly}'' T mouth!

== External Links ==
*[[HR:underconstruction.html|watch "Under Construction"]]
*[[HR:underconstruction.swf|view the Flash file for "Under Construction"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|underconstruction}}

[[Category:April Fools]][[Category:20X6]][[Category:DVD Commentary]]

Kerrek

Evil Egg — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:39:30 GMT

Evil Egg:

'''The Kerrek''' is a creature created by [[Strong Bad]]. He is named after the sender of the email [[interview]]; [[Strong Bad]] liked his name so much he named the creature after him. He wrote the Kerrek's brief initial story in Gothic letters: "''And then [[Trogdor]] smote the Kerrek, and all was laid to Burnination.''" The Kerrek appears rather pig-like, with fangs, hooves, pointy ears, and a large horn protruding from his head. His outfit is simply a loincloth held up by a smelly belt. Since this creature inhabits [[Peasantry]], the world of Trogdor, he is a character in the game [[Peasant's Quest]]. He does not like peasants wearing short pants, and as a [[Wikipedia:Teetotalism|teetotaler]], he does not appreciate [[Cold One]]s, nor offers to buy any. The [[Jhonka]] is afraid of him. Someone (either Trogdor or [[Rather Dashing]]) smites the Kerrek in each of his appearances. According to the credits at the end of [[TROGDOR!]], he is "played" by Wordly Wise.

<gallery>
Image:Kerrek_Drawing.PNG|<center>'''[[interview]]'''</center>
Image:TROGDOR! Kerrek.PNG|<center>'''[[TROGDOR!]]'''</center>
Image:Kerrek_Game.PNG|<center>'''[[Peasant's Quest]]'''</center>
Image:kerrek_real.jpg|<center>'''[[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]]'''</center>
</gallery>

==Filmography==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[interview]]
*[[:Category:Kerrek Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

{{Peasant's Quest}}

[[Category:Peasant's Quest Characters]]
[[Category:Characters based on Strong Bad Email senders]]

Talk:more armies

Evil Egg — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:31:11 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Homestar the Traitor? */

==Continuation of "army"?==
Could this email be considered a continuation of the email [[army]] due to how the subject nature is so similar to the said email and how this email is called "more armies"? -- [[User:Bad Graphics Ghost|The BGG]]
:See [[Talk:more_armies#Email_sequel|here]]. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:30, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== B4KD0R H4XX0R==

Anyone else catch the 1337/L337/LeeT in the brochure that read "Backdoor Hacker?"

== Benedetto!==
Just making sure. Frank Bennedetto was not in this email, but rather a memorial to him. Right? -
[[User:Drsandsattwo|Drsandsattwo]] 20:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Uhm... no. Frank was revealed to be alive in Labor Dabor (and sign your name please.) -[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 21:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. What I realize Bennedetto is as alive as a psuedocharacter can be, but that is a memorial rather than the real thing. correct? -
[[user:Drsandsattwo|Drsandsattwo]] 23:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I'd say that the memorial of Bennedetto counts as a character appearance as much as stuffed Strong Bad suplexing a cougar does. {{User:Jeadly/sig}} 16:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

My vote is that Bennedetto isn't so much a character as it is just an average everyday popcorn maker that Homestar, in all his geniusness, thinks is a character named Bennedetto. He's probably the only one who sees the memorial as an actuall memorial. To the rest of the world, the real question is: is it the same popcorn maker? Who can really say?--[[User:69.29.135.247|69.29.135.247]] 18:31, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== I have made my decission ==

I can do the transcript luckaly say my parents. I can do the transcript. Can I do the transcript again? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

:[[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] is {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=more_armies&curid=34763&diff=460758&oldid=460756&rcid=415474 working on it now}}. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

==Not-yet opened STUFF==

The third kid facing certain doom in the Homestarmy refers to military school.

- {{User:Gtxm78/sig}} 21:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that, if anything, certain doom refers to the fact that Homestar is a ridiculously inept "commander" and will lead the Homestarmy to certain doom. - [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 22:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

He's more of a "Col-o-nel". -WeatherPerson

==Jumped in?==
What's that mean? Strong Bad said you can send your kid off to join the On Point Kings, but he'll have to be jumped in. Funny, usually by the time I come here, the e-mail page is already done. It's odd to see it so new :). [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 22:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

: It's the standard gang initiation... urban legends about flashing headlights and assaulting random people in front of Wal-Mart notwithstanding, most gangs simply beat the $*#! out of prospective members to make sure they're tough enough. That's called being "jumped in". [[User:68.13.21.225|68.13.21.225]] 23:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC) (a no-account good for nothing so and so)

Well, I remember in 5th grade we learned about gangs. (A police officer came as a special guest.) What gangs do, is they try and see how tough you are by beating the crap out of you. Then, you are in the gang, and there is bad stuff (I don't know the specifics, because I've never been in one, thankfully), like weapons and drugs. Then if you want to get out, they have to "jump you out." That means you get beaten up, but a lot harder, and some people have died trying to escape/get out of gangs. [[User:Tgcdse|Tgcdse]]

==Firebert to Trogdor==
It's possible that The Cheat didn't change Firebert to Trogdor just because his name was awful. I think it's more to do with the popularity of Trogdor and the amount of fan contributions it has spawned.
:Same here. {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 00:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::agreed --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 00:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::I disagree. I think the firebert not being a good commando name was exactly what they had in mind. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::but Trogdor isn't a commando name...is it? --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 00:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::I agree as well... SB may have stated his opinion that Firebert isn't a good commando name in a previous email, but there's no reason to assume that's the reason he's unpopular; the gag would have worked just as well with any of the other commandos. The gag is a commentary on how much more popular Trogdor is than the commandos, not the "quality" of the name. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

==Redheaded stepchild?==
Is it possible that "step-headed red-child" is a reference to the phrase "redheaded stepchild," meaning an unfavored child? -[[User:HotBees|HotBees]] 00:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:If that's an actualy saying, then i'd say definately. Incidentally, i've never heard that before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:: I have. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Me three. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Ditto, I've heard the phrase "gonna beat you like a red-headed step-child", and I've heard a few comedians reference the phrase. And even if it wasn't a common phrase, there'd pretty much be no other explanation for what the heck step-headed red-child is supposed to mean. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::According to [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red-headed+stepchild Urban Dictionary], red-headed stepchild is a synonym for whipping boy. That's how I've always heard it used (eg, my department is the company's red-headed stepchild) and that makes sense in this context. (Be ye warned, oh external link-clickers, Urban Dictionary is NOT a family-friendly website!) [[User:Not Horse Woman|Not Horse Woman]] 00:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::: It's an old saying for suretain. --[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 01:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Links to toon titles ==

Is there some kind of arbitrary rule that you don't link the same page twice in a paragraph or something? "which strong bad said was not a good commando name in army" looks wonky without a link or some way to identify "army" as referring to an email and not simply a grammatical miscarriage. -anonymous
:Link once and only once. First instance only. It's not unwritten, it's written.. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|place]]... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::I understand the reason for the rule, and I'm not asking for the rule to be relaxed or broken, but there should be some sort of punctuation or format convention (quotes, bold, italics, some combination of 2 or 3) for a case like this. Otherwise, as anonymous pointed out, it just looks like bad grammar. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::"Once and Only Once" has little to do with this... the rule you're after is [[HRWiki:Standards#Link once|Link once]]. But I agree, things like email names should be linked every time... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::You sure 'bout that, Phlip? Email names always linked? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::It's tough, because if we were doing it correctly, we would probably have all the toons' names italicized. Since we don't, if you use the name of an email/toon but don't link it, it looks strange, like this: "Strong Bad's first email was some kinda robot". Especially the emails, since they're uncapitalized. So, I'm not sure that linking them all the time is the best solution, but we've got to do something to make them stand out, and italicizing them sometimes but not others would be too inconsistent... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::I'd say link all unless doing something major to all of 'em such as italics or quotes. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:31, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I've always thought toon titles should be linked every time. In a way, it ''is'' their punctuation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I think such a change is the sort of gnome work that could be completed site-wide in a matter of days, if not hours, by one or two industrious gnomes — if there were an official decision made (e.g. always link, link once but always italicize, or whatever).{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 14:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Boond? ==

What does the "Boond You Like?" poster behind Homestar mean? {{User:Einstein runner/sig}} 02:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:From what I understand, it's a portmanteau of "bowl" and "spoon." That still doesn't make sense, though. -[[User:HotBees|HotBees]] 03:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe something to do with [[Wikipedia:War bond|war bonds]]? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::How 'bout "bowl", "spoon", and "would"? [[User:68.85.154.172|68.85.154.172]] 19:39, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

== Mercenaries ==

The line "Mercenaries are typically known to have bad reputations" was used to explain the point of Strong Bad saying "We do bad stuff". How is this not NPOV? -[[User:Itama|Itama]] 03:29, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:I took that sentence out, and with NPOV, I meant the part about the missionaries. Without the missionaries bit, I didn't see much relevance in the mercenaries part of the sentence.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

==Poster==

should it be mentioned that the "do you has" poster, though slightly changed, has been used in a down loadable wallpaper?

:"Do you has?" reminds me of http://icanhascheezburger.com [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 07:44, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

::"Do you has what it takes to join the Homestarmy?" is from [[army]], which was published in January 2004. [http://icanhascheezburger.com/2006/05/01/this-be-a-test-arr-me-matey/ ICHC's first post] is from May 2006.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:57, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== He-Man ==
So, someone thought that the Poopsmith's change into the Municipality Soldier was not related to He-Man... I thought the lightning striking the shovel was just like the special magic that changes Prince Adam into Heman... "By the Castle of Grayskull.... I HAVE THE POWER!" I would like to add it back in, but please let me know what you thing.... I think you need to be a He-Man fan to appreciate it... any takers for a debate? [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 05:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:I see the resemblence, but I think it's a reference to the Marines commercials (especially given the context of the toon). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:09, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::No, I totally thought of He-Man too. The Chaps are notorious for '80s refs. ...I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::But really. Is this the place for a He-Man reference? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::I'm gonna have to agree with Trey on this one. This is a clear Marine commercial reference. It also makes a lot more sense to be referencing an actual military recruitment commercial (rather than He-Man) at a Vaguely Military Career Fair. [[User:Manolios|Manolios]] 14:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::It does seem like a He-Man reference, now that you mention it. Besides, The Poopsmith doesn't almost lose his grip, like in the Marines commercial it seems to be referencing. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
::::::And He-Man... does? The Marines commerical reference is patently true (it says "pooper fi" on his shield). The only reason the scene resembles He-Man at all is because the Marines commercial that it parodies kinda does. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Why is everyone acting as though the Municipality video can only be a reference to one thing and one thing only? Is it not a possibility that it references BOTH the Marines recruitment ads AND He-Man?[[User:71.217.233.97|71.217.233.97]] 20:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Because when something is clearly a reference to thing A, and kind of sorta resembles or is a stretch to thing B, then it's probably just a reference to think A alone. (It could be considered a variation of [[TTATOT]] that I will call TAOT ("this and only this").) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::As the coiner of TTATOT, I hereby give my support to TAOT. I bequeath thee! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== His left hand? ==

:The Cheat uses the marker with his [[left handedness|left hand]].

I don't want to change this yet just in case it's just my dyslexia, but I'm pretty sure the Cheat is using that marker with his right hand. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 13:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:Hmm, true, i corrected the wording, didn't think to look at the fact itself. Okay. DELETED! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Brown Ops ==

I am not 100% on this, but aren't brown ops Navy operations in coastal and riverine areas?

== What? No goofs? ==

Shouldn't there be a goofs section? I noticed that when Strong Bad gets up, you see his reflection emerge from behind the Lappy and his head is behind the fairly tattered Paper.
:I haven't seen that one yet myself. But it's a wiki; feel free to add it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:04, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

:Who says he's looking at the paper? If your printer suddenly started shooting out ripped, mangled paper, would you look at the paper, or the printer? I say he's looking at the printer! --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 05:17, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Mile reference? ==

Does anyone else think the sound The Cheat makes in the beginning of the Easter Egg is similar to that 1 from when he looked around in [[mile]]? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:Perhaps, but why is that notable? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Ganglo-Saxon ==

Isn't "Ganglo-Saxon" a [[portmanteau]] of "gangly" (probably referring to the build of high-school-age students likely to be attending career fairs) and "Anglo-Saxon"? (Edit: I see now that Has Matt? has added it to the Portmanteaus page already, just not here.) -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 15:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

:I have no actual sources for this claim, nor do I feel like looking them up, but I'm sure Ganglo-Saxon is a (real world) reference to the popularity of vaguely military organizations (militias) among the white supremacist crowd in the United States. If no one else agrees I'll shut up but I know I've seen various news articles about neo-nazi and "white power" military organizations throughout my life.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 21:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

== Music ==

The music is the scene after the 2 Weeks... sound familiar. I think its from something. I'll see if I can find it to have proof.--{{User:X66x66/sig}} 19:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:[[Strongest Man In The World]], I believe. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Undertaker? ==

Is it just me or does the Shady Missionary look eerily like the Undertaker from old school WWF? The facial expression is exact. --((User:Shadix))

I came in here to say that. I vote it gets added to Real World Ref. [[User:71.127.223.22|71.127.223.22]] 02:07, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree, it was the first thought that went through my mind. The grimace is unmistakeable.

== 5 Bucks ==
I can't be the only one who noticed this. Homestar saying that the "viewer" looks like he comes from "a long line of five bucks-havers" is a direct reference to the email army. However, I'm guessing maybe there are so damn many references to that email in this one that listing them all would be silly?[[User:71.217.233.97|71.217.233.97]] 20:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Joe Piscopo ==

Did I miss something? WTF does Joe Piscopo have to do with anything? --- [[User:Wfaulk|Wfaulk]] 22:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

:He's listed as a client on the brochure for the On Point Kings. -[[User:Itama|Itama]] 04:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Long Sbemail ==

Apparently, the sbemail was put up for 3 weeks. Should I mention that anywhere? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 23:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I guess someone else added it. NEVERMIND'D! [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 01:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

:Note that [[time capsule]] spanned an even longer period of time, so there's nothing notable about the three weeks except that SB actually completed answering this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:01, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Montage ==

Does noone remember that at the end of Montage Strong Bad upgrades to an inkjet in sbemail173 and that could be why the paper is mesed up? {{unsigned|24.252.248.124|23:36, 22 May 2007 (UTC)}}
:See [[more armies#Inside References]]. It's already mentioned. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

:Everyone remembers. Trust me. You should drop by [http://forum.hrwiki.org/index.php the forum] some time. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 01:32, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

===Told Ya!===
As some of the higher-up wikiers may remember, I tried to create a page on the [[Inkjet Era]] about a month or 2 ago, but it was quickly yet vigorously discussed, closed, and deleted. I "rebeled" by making a [[Userbox]] for it on [[User:Supuhstar|my page]]. I'm not usually one to say this, (and tell me if it breaks any rules) but, '''''IN YOUR FACE!!!''''' {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

:Calm down tigger. I knew it would hapen too.
::Yes, BUT at this moment in time, we don't know whether The Paper really will be replaced (and I sincerly hope not), or if TBC are just messing with our minds. Again. Your article was probably deleted because it was pure speculation. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Man, I was worried there was nothing in this article about that! you made my day =] [[User:O a Israel|O a Israel]] 15:05, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

==Roman Trifold==

What the crap's a Roman Trifold? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:20, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:Perhaps it's a play on the Roman trireme. A brochure of this style is refereed to as "trifold", that's for sure. The rest is a guess. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:04, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

==Helicopter==

Isn't that helicopter from TGS Issue 1? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:25, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:No, it looks totally different. Go and have a look.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::It still looks the same. [[User:Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross]] 21:49, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Also please note that my username was DELETED, so I had to re-register. [[User:Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross]] 21:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

== Email sequel ==

I believe TBC broke their own rules. Didn't they say not to email Strong Bad asking him to remake an old email? This is basically a sequel to [[army]]. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 03:47, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:Their admonition was not to ask them to "do Trogdor again" or anything like that. And frankly, this is as much a sequel to [[origins]] and [[disconnected]] as it is to [[army]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, more of a sequel to several things. They just don't want the same question a second time. An offshoot or followup question seems to be okay, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:52, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Also, [[dangeresque 3]] was a sequel to [[stunt double]], so it's not unprecedented. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:53, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::::There's a big difference between ''"I have three sons that wish to join the Strongbadia army. Do you have any pamphlets, brochures, video information that could assist."'' and ''"GHET HOMESTRAMY TO INVAED STONGBANDIA AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11"'' (Incidently, I was just re-watching "army" '''the day BEFORE''' this email was released. :) {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:34, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

== The Cheat and Firebert ==

Is it fair to say that The Cheat voices Firebert in the Cheat Commando cartoons just as Crack Stuntman voices Gunhaver? Evidence to support this:
*The Cheat Commando cartoons are produced by members of the main Homestar Runner universe (hence Stuntman's message on Marzipan's answering machine). Theoretically, the other voice actors behind the CC characters exist alongside Homestar Runner, Strong Bad, etc.
*This email seems to indicate that The Cheat is making an appearance as the actor who plays Firebert.
*Firebert has never spoken English in any of the cartoons, but he made The Cheat noises in [[Shopping for Danger]].
*The Cheat also went by the name of Firebert in [[army]].
I think this makes sense, and I think it's intended by TBC, rather than simply speculation. Anyone agree or disagree? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:46, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:Agree on all counts. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:04, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
*Isn't the real question being asked here whether Crack Stuntman is a product of Strong Bad's imagination that materializes on Marzipan's answering machine? What is REAL in the homestarrunner universe is an impossible question, although one that I think would be interesting to explore. For example, is Videlectrix a real video game company in the homestarrunner universe, or a product of Strong Bad's imagination? How could games that he conjures up in an email appear instantaneously as "real" video game cartridges, available in Free Country USA. Do we assume that Strong Bad is actually on staff at (or being plagiarized by) Videlectrix, or does Strong Bad actually have the most powerful "telekenisis" of all the characters, creating a corporation with real employees and products with the power of his mind? Is it possible that there is a sub-universe within the homestarrunner universe that is only as real to the characters as homestarrunner.com is to us? [[User:71.104.226.62|71.104.226.62]]
:What makes you think crack stuntman is a product of strong bad imagination? the cheat commandoes tv show is a real show in the HR universe, so clearly gunhaver needs a voice actor, hence a guy named crack. meanwhile, there are spin-offs, certainly, many of which are unexplained, like senor cartgage suddenly appearing, but these spin-offs should not be taken are a direct result of strong bad talking about them. -[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 03:16, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I guess you're right in this case, I thought that the cheat commandos were one of those things he kinda randomly starts talking about and then appears, but that's just firebert, and the cheat kinda invented him. [[User:71.104.226.62|71.104.226.62]]
:Well I agree. {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

== The paper? ==

What's up with the tattered paper at the end there. Could this be the end of the paper?

:See [[montage#Fast Forward|here]], [[more armies#Inside References|here]], and on this very page: [[Talk:more armies#Montage|here]].{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 14:32, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

::In montage, it said that the paper stuck around until email 173,at which point Strong Bad upgraded to an Ink jet Printer. [[User:99.245.175.130|99.245.175.130]] 20:42, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== Homestar the Traitor? ==
Ok, now is it just me, or does anyone else here Homestar Talking in the Firebert Easter Egg? listen carefully, and you can hear (or might hear) a person speaking with HSR's Speech impedement. I just want to know if i'm just crazy or if it's for real before I post it. - {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}

I turned the volume way high up, and he doesn't have his speech impediment. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 00:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

:I agree, it's not Homestar. While I DO hear someone that sounds similar to Homestar, I think they weren't INTENDED to be Homestar. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:53, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

::I'm with Bluebry here. Surely if Homestar were present in the fan-crowd, we'd have been able to see our favourite no-armed whitey's silhouette? [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 22:31, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

== Shady Missionaries album cover change? ==

Is it just my imagination, or did the easter egg album cover art change shortly after the release of this sbemail? I seem to remember it being cartoony and MSPaint-ish.

== Major Bludd ==

This fact was {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=more_armies&diff=462615&oldid=462613 removed}}, but I think that it's very possibly true (unlike the other one that was removed with it):
<blockquote>Strong Bad's mercenary costume closely resemblances that of [[wikipedia:Major_Bludd|Major Bludd]], a mercenary from the [[Wikipedia:G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero (TV series)|G.I. Joe]] cartoon series.</blockquote>
According to [[Wikipedia:Major Bludd]], Major Bludd has an eyepatch, a mustache, ''and'' a cybernetic hand. I don't know much about G.I. Joe, but this is enough to convince me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, I guess I removed it too hastily. I read the part about Major Bludd's eyepatch and mustache, but I didn't read the [[Wikipedia:Major Bludd#Comic books|comic books]] section of the article, where it talks about his cybernetic hand. Since TBC reference G.I. Joe all the time with the [[Cheat Commandos]], I don't think it's wrong to assume that they were referencing Major Bludd here. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
::Cool. I wasn't convinced until I read the bit about the cybernetic hand either; I'll add it back in. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:18, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

== Jumped in/Jumped out Gang Reference ==

In school, we learned about gangs from a police officer, and these are confirmed facts: For anyone who doesn't know, gangs "jump in" potential members. When someone chooses to join the gang (a bad choice btw, if you've never learned that), the gang beats the crap out of you to test your toughness. Then, in the gang, they have bad stuff like weopons and drugs, so if you want to get out, they "jump you out." This is supposed to be even worse, where they give you no mercy, and beat the crap and everything out of you (some people have died trying to get away from a gang they were in).
Anyways, does anyone think that we should add it as a real world reference to gangs (when sb mentions jumping in and out)?
[[User:Tgcdse|Tgcdse]]
:It's already mentioned in [[more armies#Explanations|Explanations]]. But I don't think it explains what "jumping out" is, so you might want to add that information to the fact that's already there. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:00, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

== 65lb Cardstock ==

65lb Cardstock is likely a real-world reference to Kraft paper, generally used for making tubes for various use in pyrotechnics, sold as 'kraft paper', made with the Kraft process. "65lb" means that 500 square meters of the paper weighs in at 65lbs, generally it is sold in 40, 50, 60, and 70lb strengths. 65lb is just below the highest quality. I don't know if its worth mentioning or not, so I will let you guys decide. -Xeno [[User:70.56.206.2|70.56.206.2]] 19:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Regular paper is also sold in varying weights - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_density#Basis_weight. --[[User:207.207.83.16|207.207.83.16]] 00:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Firebert Vs. Trogdor ===
{{stufffact|The Cheat does not receive any visitors until he replaces "[[Firebert]]" with "[[Trogdor]]". It is strongly implied that his initial unpopularity is due to the name "Firebert", which was criticized in [[army]] and again in [[Shopping for Danger]].}}
{{stuffverdict|23:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)|16:25, 22 June 2007 (UTC)|accepted|15|4|more armies}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Oh, check me out, it's in back of my head! ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's head is behind The Paper when he comes back to look at it.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:44, 23 May 2007 (UTC)|20:10, 27 May 2007 (UTC)|declined|16|6|more armies}}

== An Aussie SBMAIL??? ==

Awesome, does anyone else know if this is the first Australian email?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:01, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, [[crying]] was the first [[Strong Bad Email By Place#Australia|from Australia]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:22, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

*We don't know which ones were the first. [[homsar]] could have been the first (although I don't know if Vinnie is an Australian name). [[butt IQ]], and all the other ones with no address are possibilities. Nobody knows.

== And they feed the king through a tube? ==

Would the scene of the KOT eating giblet gravy count as feeding him through a tube? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:11, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
:The reason I asked was because I thought if it did, we could write an article about [[Feeding Through A Tube]] because there were also references in [[No Hands on Deck!]] and [[looking old]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:04, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

== Are you good at video games? ==

I don't know if this is noteworthy, but seems to me that Homestar's asking whether or not the implied scoutee was good at video games was a reference to the real world Army's (American) semi-recent practices aimed at getting gamers to join the army. Most notably their creation of the video game, army simulator hybrid "America's Army." [[User:70.146.127.219|70.146.127.219]] 06:22, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:mayhaps--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 06:25, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Deck Talkin's? ==

Perthy. Paul. Perfect Paul is a Dectalk TTS voice. Andy similarity? -Alex H. --[[User:68.74.58.104|68.74.58.104]] 01:06, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
:Nope. SB wouldn't know about TTS. I don't think '''TBC''' knows about TTS. {{User:Zoom/sig}} 01:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

== Stinkoman 20X6 homage? ==
Do you think that the "Black Ops" picture reminds you of the scene in Stinkoman 20X6 when Stinkoman dives away from the explosion of An Ice Machine? Strong Bad is diving in a similar way. Do you think it's a homage?

:No, I think it's just a typical action cliche. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 22:25, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:more armies

Evil Egg — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:25:28 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Stinkoman 20X6 homage? */

==Continuation of "army"?==
Could this email be considered a continuation of the email [[army]] due to how the subject nature is so similar to the said email and how this email is called "more armies"? -- [[User:Bad Graphics Ghost|The BGG]]
:See [[Talk:more_armies#Email_sequel|here]]. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:30, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== B4KD0R H4XX0R==

Anyone else catch the 1337/L337/LeeT in the brochure that read "Backdoor Hacker?"

== Benedetto!==
Just making sure. Frank Bennedetto was not in this email, but rather a memorial to him. Right? -
[[User:Drsandsattwo|Drsandsattwo]] 20:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Uhm... no. Frank was revealed to be alive in Labor Dabor (and sign your name please.) -[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 21:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. What I realize Bennedetto is as alive as a psuedocharacter can be, but that is a memorial rather than the real thing. correct? -
[[user:Drsandsattwo|Drsandsattwo]] 23:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I'd say that the memorial of Bennedetto counts as a character appearance as much as stuffed Strong Bad suplexing a cougar does. {{User:Jeadly/sig}} 16:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

My vote is that Bennedetto isn't so much a character as it is just an average everyday popcorn maker that Homestar, in all his geniusness, thinks is a character named Bennedetto. He's probably the only one who sees the memorial as an actuall memorial. To the rest of the world, the real question is: is it the same popcorn maker? Who can really say?--[[User:69.29.135.247|69.29.135.247]] 18:31, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== I have made my decission ==

I can do the transcript luckaly say my parents. I can do the transcript. Can I do the transcript again? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

:[[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] is {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=more_armies&curid=34763&diff=460758&oldid=460756&rcid=415474 working on it now}}. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

==Not-yet opened STUFF==

The third kid facing certain doom in the Homestarmy refers to military school.

- {{User:Gtxm78/sig}} 21:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that, if anything, certain doom refers to the fact that Homestar is a ridiculously inept "commander" and will lead the Homestarmy to certain doom. - [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 22:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

He's more of a "Col-o-nel". -WeatherPerson

==Jumped in?==
What's that mean? Strong Bad said you can send your kid off to join the On Point Kings, but he'll have to be jumped in. Funny, usually by the time I come here, the e-mail page is already done. It's odd to see it so new :). [[User:Kvn8907|Kvn8907]] 22:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

: It's the standard gang initiation... urban legends about flashing headlights and assaulting random people in front of Wal-Mart notwithstanding, most gangs simply beat the $*#! out of prospective members to make sure they're tough enough. That's called being "jumped in". [[User:68.13.21.225|68.13.21.225]] 23:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC) (a no-account good for nothing so and so)

Well, I remember in 5th grade we learned about gangs. (A police officer came as a special guest.) What gangs do, is they try and see how tough you are by beating the crap out of you. Then, you are in the gang, and there is bad stuff (I don't know the specifics, because I've never been in one, thankfully), like weapons and drugs. Then if you want to get out, they have to "jump you out." That means you get beaten up, but a lot harder, and some people have died trying to escape/get out of gangs. [[User:Tgcdse|Tgcdse]]

==Firebert to Trogdor==
It's possible that The Cheat didn't change Firebert to Trogdor just because his name was awful. I think it's more to do with the popularity of Trogdor and the amount of fan contributions it has spawned.
:Same here. {{User:4kai2lyn6/sig}} 00:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::agreed --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 00:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::I disagree. I think the firebert not being a good commando name was exactly what they had in mind. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::but Trogdor isn't a commando name...is it? --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 00:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::I agree as well... SB may have stated his opinion that Firebert isn't a good commando name in a previous email, but there's no reason to assume that's the reason he's unpopular; the gag would have worked just as well with any of the other commandos. The gag is a commentary on how much more popular Trogdor is than the commandos, not the "quality" of the name. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

==Redheaded stepchild?==
Is it possible that "step-headed red-child" is a reference to the phrase "redheaded stepchild," meaning an unfavored child? -[[User:HotBees|HotBees]] 00:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:If that's an actualy saying, then i'd say definately. Incidentally, i've never heard that before. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:: I have. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Me three. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Ditto, I've heard the phrase "gonna beat you like a red-headed step-child", and I've heard a few comedians reference the phrase. And even if it wasn't a common phrase, there'd pretty much be no other explanation for what the heck step-headed red-child is supposed to mean. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::According to [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red-headed+stepchild Urban Dictionary], red-headed stepchild is a synonym for whipping boy. That's how I've always heard it used (eg, my department is the company's red-headed stepchild) and that makes sense in this context. (Be ye warned, oh external link-clickers, Urban Dictionary is NOT a family-friendly website!) [[User:Not Horse Woman|Not Horse Woman]] 00:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::: It's an old saying for suretain. --[[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 01:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Links to toon titles ==

Is there some kind of arbitrary rule that you don't link the same page twice in a paragraph or something? "which strong bad said was not a good commando name in army" looks wonky without a link or some way to identify "army" as referring to an email and not simply a grammatical miscarriage. -anonymous
:Link once and only once. First instance only. It's not unwritten, it's written.. [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|place]]... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::I understand the reason for the rule, and I'm not asking for the rule to be relaxed or broken, but there should be some sort of punctuation or format convention (quotes, bold, italics, some combination of 2 or 3) for a case like this. Otherwise, as anonymous pointed out, it just looks like bad grammar. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 02:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::"Once and Only Once" has little to do with this... the rule you're after is [[HRWiki:Standards#Link once|Link once]]. But I agree, things like email names should be linked every time... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::You sure 'bout that, Phlip? Email names always linked? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::It's tough, because if we were doing it correctly, we would probably have all the toons' names italicized. Since we don't, if you use the name of an email/toon but don't link it, it looks strange, like this: "Strong Bad's first email was some kinda robot". Especially the emails, since they're uncapitalized. So, I'm not sure that linking them all the time is the best solution, but we've got to do something to make them stand out, and italicizing them sometimes but not others would be too inconsistent... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::I'd say link all unless doing something major to all of 'em such as italics or quotes. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:31, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I've always thought toon titles should be linked every time. In a way, it ''is'' their punctuation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I think such a change is the sort of gnome work that could be completed site-wide in a matter of days, if not hours, by one or two industrious gnomes — if there were an official decision made (e.g. always link, link once but always italicize, or whatever).{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 14:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Boond? ==

What does the "Boond You Like?" poster behind Homestar mean? {{User:Einstein runner/sig}} 02:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:From what I understand, it's a portmanteau of "bowl" and "spoon." That still doesn't make sense, though. -[[User:HotBees|HotBees]] 03:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe something to do with [[Wikipedia:War bond|war bonds]]? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::How 'bout "bowl", "spoon", and "would"? [[User:68.85.154.172|68.85.154.172]] 19:39, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

== Mercenaries ==

The line "Mercenaries are typically known to have bad reputations" was used to explain the point of Strong Bad saying "We do bad stuff". How is this not NPOV? -[[User:Itama|Itama]] 03:29, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:I took that sentence out, and with NPOV, I meant the part about the missionaries. Without the missionaries bit, I didn't see much relevance in the mercenaries part of the sentence.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

==Poster==

should it be mentioned that the "do you has" poster, though slightly changed, has been used in a down loadable wallpaper?

:"Do you has?" reminds me of http://icanhascheezburger.com [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 07:44, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

::"Do you has what it takes to join the Homestarmy?" is from [[army]], which was published in January 2004. [http://icanhascheezburger.com/2006/05/01/this-be-a-test-arr-me-matey/ ICHC's first post] is from May 2006.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:57, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== He-Man ==
So, someone thought that the Poopsmith's change into the Municipality Soldier was not related to He-Man... I thought the lightning striking the shovel was just like the special magic that changes Prince Adam into Heman... "By the Castle of Grayskull.... I HAVE THE POWER!" I would like to add it back in, but please let me know what you thing.... I think you need to be a He-Man fan to appreciate it... any takers for a debate? [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 05:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:I see the resemblence, but I think it's a reference to the Marines commercials (especially given the context of the toon). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:09, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::No, I totally thought of He-Man too. The Chaps are notorious for '80s refs. ...I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::But really. Is this the place for a He-Man reference? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::I'm gonna have to agree with Trey on this one. This is a clear Marine commercial reference. It also makes a lot more sense to be referencing an actual military recruitment commercial (rather than He-Man) at a Vaguely Military Career Fair. [[User:Manolios|Manolios]] 14:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::It does seem like a He-Man reference, now that you mention it. Besides, The Poopsmith doesn't almost lose his grip, like in the Marines commercial it seems to be referencing. [[User:Neox|Neox]]
::::::And He-Man... does? The Marines commerical reference is patently true (it says "pooper fi" on his shield). The only reason the scene resembles He-Man at all is because the Marines commercial that it parodies kinda does. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Why is everyone acting as though the Municipality video can only be a reference to one thing and one thing only? Is it not a possibility that it references BOTH the Marines recruitment ads AND He-Man?[[User:71.217.233.97|71.217.233.97]] 20:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Because when something is clearly a reference to thing A, and kind of sorta resembles or is a stretch to thing B, then it's probably just a reference to think A alone. (It could be considered a variation of [[TTATOT]] that I will call TAOT ("this and only this").) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::As the coiner of TTATOT, I hereby give my support to TAOT. I bequeath thee! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== His left hand? ==

:The Cheat uses the marker with his [[left handedness|left hand]].

I don't want to change this yet just in case it's just my dyslexia, but I'm pretty sure the Cheat is using that marker with his right hand. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 13:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:Hmm, true, i corrected the wording, didn't think to look at the fact itself. Okay. DELETED! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:06, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Brown Ops ==

I am not 100% on this, but aren't brown ops Navy operations in coastal and riverine areas?

== What? No goofs? ==

Shouldn't there be a goofs section? I noticed that when Strong Bad gets up, you see his reflection emerge from behind the Lappy and his head is behind the fairly tattered Paper.
:I haven't seen that one yet myself. But it's a wiki; feel free to add it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:04, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

:Who says he's looking at the paper? If your printer suddenly started shooting out ripped, mangled paper, would you look at the paper, or the printer? I say he's looking at the printer! --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 05:17, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Mile reference? ==

Does anyone else think the sound The Cheat makes in the beginning of the Easter Egg is similar to that 1 from when he looked around in [[mile]]? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:Perhaps, but why is that notable? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Ganglo-Saxon ==

Isn't "Ganglo-Saxon" a [[portmanteau]] of "gangly" (probably referring to the build of high-school-age students likely to be attending career fairs) and "Anglo-Saxon"? (Edit: I see now that Has Matt? has added it to the Portmanteaus page already, just not here.) -{{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 15:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

:I have no actual sources for this claim, nor do I feel like looking them up, but I'm sure Ganglo-Saxon is a (real world) reference to the popularity of vaguely military organizations (militias) among the white supremacist crowd in the United States. If no one else agrees I'll shut up but I know I've seen various news articles about neo-nazi and "white power" military organizations throughout my life.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 21:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

== Music ==

The music is the scene after the 2 Weeks... sound familiar. I think its from something. I'll see if I can find it to have proof.--{{User:X66x66/sig}} 19:12, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:[[Strongest Man In The World]], I believe. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Undertaker? ==

Is it just me or does the Shady Missionary look eerily like the Undertaker from old school WWF? The facial expression is exact. --((User:Shadix))

I came in here to say that. I vote it gets added to Real World Ref. [[User:71.127.223.22|71.127.223.22]] 02:07, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree, it was the first thought that went through my mind. The grimace is unmistakeable.

== 5 Bucks ==
I can't be the only one who noticed this. Homestar saying that the "viewer" looks like he comes from "a long line of five bucks-havers" is a direct reference to the email army. However, I'm guessing maybe there are so damn many references to that email in this one that listing them all would be silly?[[User:71.217.233.97|71.217.233.97]] 20:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

== Joe Piscopo ==

Did I miss something? WTF does Joe Piscopo have to do with anything? --- [[User:Wfaulk|Wfaulk]] 22:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

:He's listed as a client on the brochure for the On Point Kings. -[[User:Itama|Itama]] 04:02, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Long Sbemail ==

Apparently, the sbemail was put up for 3 weeks. Should I mention that anywhere? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 23:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I guess someone else added it. NEVERMIND'D! [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 01:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

:Note that [[time capsule]] spanned an even longer period of time, so there's nothing notable about the three weeks except that SB actually completed answering this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:01, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Montage ==

Does noone remember that at the end of Montage Strong Bad upgrades to an inkjet in sbemail173 and that could be why the paper is mesed up? {{unsigned|24.252.248.124|23:36, 22 May 2007 (UTC)}}
:See [[more armies#Inside References]]. It's already mentioned. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

:Everyone remembers. Trust me. You should drop by [http://forum.hrwiki.org/index.php the forum] some time. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]] 01:32, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

===Told Ya!===
As some of the higher-up wikiers may remember, I tried to create a page on the [[Inkjet Era]] about a month or 2 ago, but it was quickly yet vigorously discussed, closed, and deleted. I "rebeled" by making a [[Userbox]] for it on [[User:Supuhstar|my page]]. I'm not usually one to say this, (and tell me if it breaks any rules) but, '''''IN YOUR FACE!!!''''' {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

:Calm down tigger. I knew it would hapen too.
::Yes, BUT at this moment in time, we don't know whether The Paper really will be replaced (and I sincerly hope not), or if TBC are just messing with our minds. Again. Your article was probably deleted because it was pure speculation. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Man, I was worried there was nothing in this article about that! you made my day =] [[User:O a Israel|O a Israel]] 15:05, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

==Roman Trifold==

What the crap's a Roman Trifold? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:20, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:Perhaps it's a play on the Roman trireme. A brochure of this style is refereed to as "trifold", that's for sure. The rest is a guess. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:04, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

==Helicopter==

Isn't that helicopter from TGS Issue 1? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:25, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:No, it looks totally different. Go and have a look.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::It still looks the same. [[User:Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross]] 21:49, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Also please note that my username was DELETED, so I had to re-register. [[User:Awexome Cross|Awexome Cross]] 21:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

== Email sequel ==

I believe TBC broke their own rules. Didn't they say not to email Strong Bad asking him to remake an old email? This is basically a sequel to [[army]]. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 03:47, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:Their admonition was not to ask them to "do Trogdor again" or anything like that. And frankly, this is as much a sequel to [[origins]] and [[disconnected]] as it is to [[army]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, more of a sequel to several things. They just don't want the same question a second time. An offshoot or followup question seems to be okay, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:52, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Also, [[dangeresque 3]] was a sequel to [[stunt double]], so it's not unprecedented. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:53, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::::There's a big difference between ''"I have three sons that wish to join the Strongbadia army. Do you have any pamphlets, brochures, video information that could assist."'' and ''"GHET HOMESTRAMY TO INVAED STONGBANDIA AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11"'' (Incidently, I was just re-watching "army" '''the day BEFORE''' this email was released. :) {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:34, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

== The Cheat and Firebert ==

Is it fair to say that The Cheat voices Firebert in the Cheat Commando cartoons just as Crack Stuntman voices Gunhaver? Evidence to support this:
*The Cheat Commando cartoons are produced by members of the main Homestar Runner universe (hence Stuntman's message on Marzipan's answering machine). Theoretically, the other voice actors behind the CC characters exist alongside Homestar Runner, Strong Bad, etc.
*This email seems to indicate that The Cheat is making an appearance as the actor who plays Firebert.
*Firebert has never spoken English in any of the cartoons, but he made The Cheat noises in [[Shopping for Danger]].
*The Cheat also went by the name of Firebert in [[army]].
I think this makes sense, and I think it's intended by TBC, rather than simply speculation. Anyone agree or disagree? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:46, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:Agree on all counts. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:04, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
*Isn't the real question being asked here whether Crack Stuntman is a product of Strong Bad's imagination that materializes on Marzipan's answering machine? What is REAL in the homestarrunner universe is an impossible question, although one that I think would be interesting to explore. For example, is Videlectrix a real video game company in the homestarrunner universe, or a product of Strong Bad's imagination? How could games that he conjures up in an email appear instantaneously as "real" video game cartridges, available in Free Country USA. Do we assume that Strong Bad is actually on staff at (or being plagiarized by) Videlectrix, or does Strong Bad actually have the most powerful "telekenisis" of all the characters, creating a corporation with real employees and products with the power of his mind? Is it possible that there is a sub-universe within the homestarrunner universe that is only as real to the characters as homestarrunner.com is to us? [[User:71.104.226.62|71.104.226.62]]
:What makes you think crack stuntman is a product of strong bad imagination? the cheat commandoes tv show is a real show in the HR universe, so clearly gunhaver needs a voice actor, hence a guy named crack. meanwhile, there are spin-offs, certainly, many of which are unexplained, like senor cartgage suddenly appearing, but these spin-offs should not be taken are a direct result of strong bad talking about them. -[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman]] 03:16, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I guess you're right in this case, I thought that the cheat commandos were one of those things he kinda randomly starts talking about and then appears, but that's just firebert, and the cheat kinda invented him. [[User:71.104.226.62|71.104.226.62]]
:Well I agree. {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

== The paper? ==

What's up with the tattered paper at the end there. Could this be the end of the paper?

:See [[montage#Fast Forward|here]], [[more armies#Inside References|here]], and on this very page: [[Talk:more armies#Montage|here]].{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 14:32, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

::In montage, it said that the paper stuck around until email 173,at which point Strong Bad upgraded to an Ink jet Printer. [[User:99.245.175.130|99.245.175.130]] 20:42, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== Homestar the Traitor? ==
Ok, now is it just me, or does anyone else here Homestar Talking in the Firebert Easter Egg? listen carefully, and you can hear (or might hear) a person speaking with HSR's Speech impedement. I just want to know if i'm just crazy or if it's for real before I post it. - {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}

I turned the volume way high up, and he doesn't have his speech impediment. [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 00:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

:I agree, it's not Homestar. While I DO hear someone that sounds similar to Homestar, I think they weren't INTENDED to be Homestar. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 00:53, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

== Shady Missionaries album cover change? ==

Is it just my imagination, or did the easter egg album cover art change shortly after the release of this sbemail? I seem to remember it being cartoony and MSPaint-ish.

== Major Bludd ==

This fact was {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=more_armies&diff=462615&oldid=462613 removed}}, but I think that it's very possibly true (unlike the other one that was removed with it):
<blockquote>Strong Bad's mercenary costume closely resemblances that of [[wikipedia:Major_Bludd|Major Bludd]], a mercenary from the [[Wikipedia:G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero (TV series)|G.I. Joe]] cartoon series.</blockquote>
According to [[Wikipedia:Major Bludd]], Major Bludd has an eyepatch, a mustache, ''and'' a cybernetic hand. I don't know much about G.I. Joe, but this is enough to convince me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, I guess I removed it too hastily. I read the part about Major Bludd's eyepatch and mustache, but I didn't read the [[Wikipedia:Major Bludd#Comic books|comic books]] section of the article, where it talks about his cybernetic hand. Since TBC reference G.I. Joe all the time with the [[Cheat Commandos]], I don't think it's wrong to assume that they were referencing Major Bludd here. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
::Cool. I wasn't convinced until I read the bit about the cybernetic hand either; I'll add it back in. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:18, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

== Jumped in/Jumped out Gang Reference ==

In school, we learned about gangs from a police officer, and these are confirmed facts: For anyone who doesn't know, gangs "jump in" potential members. When someone chooses to join the gang (a bad choice btw, if you've never learned that), the gang beats the crap out of you to test your toughness. Then, in the gang, they have bad stuff like weopons and drugs, so if you want to get out, they "jump you out." This is supposed to be even worse, where they give you no mercy, and beat the crap and everything out of you (some people have died trying to get away from a gang they were in).
Anyways, does anyone think that we should add it as a real world reference to gangs (when sb mentions jumping in and out)?
[[User:Tgcdse|Tgcdse]]
:It's already mentioned in [[more armies#Explanations|Explanations]]. But I don't think it explains what "jumping out" is, so you might want to add that information to the fact that's already there. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:00, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

== 65lb Cardstock ==

65lb Cardstock is likely a real-world reference to Kraft paper, generally used for making tubes for various use in pyrotechnics, sold as 'kraft paper', made with the Kraft process. "65lb" means that 500 square meters of the paper weighs in at 65lbs, generally it is sold in 40, 50, 60, and 70lb strengths. 65lb is just below the highest quality. I don't know if its worth mentioning or not, so I will let you guys decide. -Xeno [[User:70.56.206.2|70.56.206.2]] 19:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Regular paper is also sold in varying weights - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_density#Basis_weight. --[[User:207.207.83.16|207.207.83.16]] 00:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Firebert Vs. Trogdor ===
{{stufffact|The Cheat does not receive any visitors until he replaces "[[Firebert]]" with "[[Trogdor]]". It is strongly implied that his initial unpopularity is due to the name "Firebert", which was criticized in [[army]] and again in [[Shopping for Danger]].}}
{{stuffverdict|23:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)|16:25, 22 June 2007 (UTC)|accepted|15|4|more armies}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Oh, check me out, it's in back of my head! ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's head is behind The Paper when he comes back to look at it.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:44, 23 May 2007 (UTC)|20:10, 27 May 2007 (UTC)|declined|16|6|more armies}}

== An Aussie SBMAIL??? ==

Awesome, does anyone else know if this is the first Australian email?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:01, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, [[crying]] was the first [[Strong Bad Email By Place#Australia|from Australia]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 08:22, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

*We don't know which ones were the first. [[homsar]] could have been the first (although I don't know if Vinnie is an Australian name). [[butt IQ]], and all the other ones with no address are possibilities. Nobody knows.

== And they feed the king through a tube? ==

Would the scene of the KOT eating giblet gravy count as feeding him through a tube? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:11, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
:The reason I asked was because I thought if it did, we could write an article about [[Feeding Through A Tube]] because there were also references in [[No Hands on Deck!]] and [[looking old]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:04, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

== Are you good at video games? ==

I don't know if this is noteworthy, but seems to me that Homestar's asking whether or not the implied scoutee was good at video games was a reference to the real world Army's (American) semi-recent practices aimed at getting gamers to join the army. Most notably their creation of the video game, army simulator hybrid "America's Army." [[User:70.146.127.219|70.146.127.219]] 06:22, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:mayhaps--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]] 06:25, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Deck Talkin's? ==

Perthy. Paul. Perfect Paul is a Dectalk TTS voice. Andy similarity? -Alex H. --[[User:68.74.58.104|68.74.58.104]] 01:06, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
:Nope. SB wouldn't know about TTS. I don't think '''TBC''' knows about TTS. {{User:Zoom/sig}} 01:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

== Stinkoman 20X6 homage? ==
Do you think that the "Black Ops" picture reminds you of the scene in Stinkoman 20X6 when Stinkoman dives away from the explosion of An Ice Machine? Strong Bad is diving in a similar way. Do you think it's a homage?

:No, I think it's just a typical action cliche. [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 22:25, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:TROGDOR!

Evil Egg — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:05:01 GMT

Evil Egg:

{{featuredarticle}}
== after level 27? ==
The quotes for cut scenes "after level 27" don't look kosher to me. How could he say "Smote that Kerrek" if the arcade game predated the Kerrek Email? 
[[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 21:09, 25 Sep 2004 (MST)
:I'm not seeing anything that says the Trogdor game was created before the interview email. Dragon and Interview were only a month apart. Even so, TBC could still have added it in later. "Smote that Kerreck" is plainly there, just fast forward a little. He's also listed in the credits when you beat the game.
[[User:The Brothers E|The Brothers E]]
::The arcade game was first seen between SBEmails 66 and 67. Interview was number 62. The game does not precede Kerrek's e-mail. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

Wowzers, ok. So, how does one "Fast forward"? is this a right-click-menu flash "forward" command or some other form of strangeness? :) Thanks! 
[[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 12:11, 26 Sep 2004 (MST)

Please, anyone know how to fast-foward??? I'm desperate, and everyone's always talking about it. Tell me!!!

== Fast-fowarding, *URGENT* ==

PPLLEEAASSEE!!! Won't somebody tell me how to fast-foward past level 27?!!? The whole game's a joke until you get there; it's IMPOSSIBLE!!! Please, anybody, notice this message board, and tell me how to FF past that one level. Thank you so much...I would be immensely obliged! -Justin Hack 10/09/04

As far as I know, any program that lets you fast forward won't let you actually play the levels. That said, they recently fixed level 27 (around Valentine's Day '05), so it is now beatable.

== Not very urgent ==

I've tried to get past level 27 quites a few times and, while I don't know how urgent it is, I'm really trying to figure out to see the rest of the game too. Is there a code of some sort, or how does this "fastforwarding" thing work? -ShadowP13

==Reply for everyone concerned about anything post-level 27==
Please see [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1134 this forum thread] for information regarding the findings in this article.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:34, 12 Nov 2004 (MST)

== OLD (original) version of Trogdor - anybody, anybody? ==

Does anyone have an archived version of the ORIGINAL Trogdor game as it was posted on the website the week the guys were "In Da Basement"? This original version lacked the impossible level 27, but it also lacked all cartoons post-level-20. I'm just curious if a copy's sitting out there somewhere...

[On another note, I'm pretty sure I've visited multiple treasure huts per game, contrary to what I've read on this website.]

:I don't know where you might find the original version, but you might start by looking around some of the various mirror sites (see the [[Links]] page). As for the treasure huts, you can visit more than one per game, but only once the levels start to repeat. --[[User:68.12.101.60|68.12.101.60]] 08:47, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Check this out Chief!! Possible inspiration!! ==

http://www.abandonia.com/games/624/Aargh.htm

Look at this!
This is a game where you play as a badly-drawn giant lizard and terrorize PEASENTS! IN THATCHED HUTS!!!
It's not Trogdor... it's OLDER than Trogdor... but it looks so similar!!! Could it be related - anon

:I don't see why it couldn't have been inspiration. It's related to Rampage, which the Chaps are known to like and have parodied on the site. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:06, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==What? No heading?==

Wish I could burninate the knights.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 23:15, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== Haven't heard some of the quotes ==

I haven't heard some of the Strong Bad quotes mentioned. I've played A LOT, too. In fact I played to level 100 just to see the animation, and I never heard the following quotes:

: {laughing} "He's on fire! Look at 'em burning!"

: STRONG BAD: "Beat that score, Strong Sad!" STRONG SAD: "I don't even want to play that game."

Could they only have been in the old game? -[[User:xzqx|Anne]]

I just heard the Strong Sad one. -[[User:Aaronak|Aaronak]] 23:13, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

:Happened to me too. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 01:21, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

== Pause glitch ==

I just ran into this glitch, so apparently it hasn't been fixed. [[User:24.13.252.150|24.13.252.150]] 08:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

If it's a glitch... Otherwise, you could click on the Flash file/game and try pressing the spacebar. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 01:21, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

== Paused Archers ==
I didn't see anything here about the trick where you freeze the archers by pausing when they're on the screen.
:Ah, I was using an old version, I think. Nevermind.

== It's high time we did this. ==

I've just played a good game of Trogdor (Level 11! New record! WHOO!) and I think we should add something to the wiki: Trogdor Level Guide. Who's with me? --[[User:Color Printer|Color]] [[User talk:Color Printer|Printer]] 23:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
:Well, what would we put in it? The movements of the peasants and enemies are random, so we couldn't put anything definite, other than "Avoid the enemies, stomp the peasants, burninate the cottages". {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 23:12, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
::No, like layouts and hints. --[[User:Color Printer|Color]] [[User talk:Color Printer|Printer]] 23:15, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

== holding down the "G" ==

I've attempted this to no avail. Am I misunderstanding what "title page" means? Does this only work on certain browsers? (I'm using Firefox) is it holding down lower-case g? shift+g? help! (wants those 30 starting mans bad!)
: It means the letter "G" in the word "TROGDOR!" in the title. Not the "G" on your keyboard. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== No "B" on Wii ==

From frame 193: <tt>contraArrayKey = newArray (38, 38, 40, 40, 37, 39, 37, 39, 66, 65)</tt>. The 66 value is not defined in sprite 387 like the rest of the keys, so therefore, the B value cannot be entered on a Wii. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 08:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
: I'd test, but I never downloaded the Wii's internet browser... The Wii's controller DOES have a B button, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
: That said, it DOES work if you play the Wii version through Internet Explorer on an actual computer, but come to think of it, "Start" is pointing at the screen and presisng the Wii's "A" button... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
: But then again: ''If playing on a PC, the "A" key now functions as the pause button.'' Since 1 is the Pause button according to the title screen... ah, screw it. Leave it to someone who actually bothered to download the browser to test... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:50, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
: It is very likely that the Brothers Chaps were already aware of this little shortcoming. They removed the referrence to the "Secret Code?" on the Hints Page that pops up when you hold the A button (mouse button) on the letter G. It is also worthy of note that the Treasure Huts do still exist, but when I entered one when I played the game, I couldn't move. --[[User:President Cold One|President Cold One]] 10:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
::The code should go something like: UUDDLRLR''(something)''1 if entered on the Wii. The complete button map looks something like this (according to [http://livedocs.adobe.com/flash/mx2004/main_7_2/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=Flash_MX_2004&file=00001113.html Adobe] and the decompiled ActionScript): --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 12:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width=50% | Wii-mote Button !! width=50% | PC Key
|-
| valign="top" |
*Left
*Up
*Right
*Down
*1
*2
*A
*B
*+
*-
*Power and HOME are not modified
| valign="top" |
*Left
*Up
*Right
*Down
*A
*S
*D (I don't quite see how this one works, but oh well)
*Space
*+/=
*-/_
*Not applicable.
|}

== Invincibility Disparity ==
Somewhere on this page (and possibly the [[Peasant's Quest]] one, too), it points out Trogdor's non-indestructibility in this game. Would it be worth noting the theory that this game's Trogdor is younger than the PQ one? [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 13:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Toilets

Evil Egg — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:48:29 GMT

Evil Egg: /* Screenshots */

[[Image:Sbsmile166.png|thumb|"Try it again. I think I'm starting to mutate!"]]
'''Toilets''' are an item that have frequently appeared in the [[Homestar Runner universe]], in many differing shapes and forms. Although toilets were mentioned early on in such instances as [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 1.0]] and [[halloweener]], they didn't appear anywhere on the site until late '02.

== Appearances ==
*In [[A Decemberween Pageant]], [[Strong Sad]] appeared to be "[[puking|up-chucking]]" in a stall. Similarily, [[The Kaiser]] can be seen coming out of a latrine in the [[Ballad of The Sneak]]. However, in both instances the actual toilet was not seen, they were simply alluded to behind a closed door.
*A toilet was drawn by [[Strong Bad]] in his parody book [[Strumstar Hammer]], referred to as a "comode" [''sic''], in an Easter egg in the email [[kids' book]].
*The Strong Bad Email Intro for [[video games]] is "Email is like a prison. A prison with no walls... and no toilet."
*A toilet was drawn by Strong Bad in the background for his kids' show, seen in [[for kids]].
*A clay toilet appeared in [[Strong Mad]]'s claymation cartoon, [[Doug the Dino]], in [[the facts]].
*A toilet first appeared outside of an email in the [[Cheat Commandos]] cartoon [[Shopping for Danger]].
*A real toilet was sighted in [[Free Country, USA]] in [[Coach Z's locker room]], at the [[Halloween Fairstival]], even referred to as a "terlet" by [[Coach Z]].
*The [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Port-O-John|Port-O-John]] from [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9]] would logically house a chemical toilet, but the inside is not shown.
*In [[A Folky Tale]], Coach Z claimed that [[Saddy Dumpington|Saddy Dumpington's]] name sounded like a "terlet".
*In [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]], one of the stirring utensils Homestar can earn is a "terlet brush".
*In [[candy product]], Strong Bad is seen in the bathroom (presumably sitting on a toilet) and reading a newspaper.
**He is again seen reading a newspaper in the bathroom in [[underlings]].
*In [[unnatural]], Bubs grows to gargantuan size when he accidentally flushes himself down the toilet. In an Easter egg, Strong Bad can be seen trying the same thing.
*One [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-05-11|Sketchbook]] image featured an alligator in a toilet, holding a piece of paper.
*A [[French]] toilet crushes [[Cheerleader]] with a plunger in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13]].

== Screenshots ==
<gallery>
Image:Strong Sad in the bathroom.png|"I think he might be up-chucking"
Image:KeisersLatrine.PNG|"Ach du Lieber!"
Image:Book_Toilet.PNG|Homestar and Pom-Pom take home the porcelain
Image:Kids_Toilet.PNG|It's not a kids' show without ''some'' toilet humor
Image:Clay_Toilet.PNG|The natural predator of Doug the Dino
Image:Cheat_Toilet.PNG|Now with less mildew
Image:Spooky_Toilet.PNG|"You guys didn't even get yer candy out of the terlet!"
Image:Port-O-John.png|So-And-So's new leading man
Image:Sketchbook 5-11-2007.png|Connect the dots
Image:French Toilet.png|EAU DE TOiLETTE!
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Evil Egg — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:32:06 GMT

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Evil Egg — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:31:40 GMT

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Evil Egg — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:29:05 GMT

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