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The Homestar Runner Enters The Spooky Woods

ComputerBox — Fri, 01 Nov 2019 04:53:52 GMT

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[[File:HomestarRunnerSpookyWoods.png|200px|thumb|"No amount of gulps can express how scared I am!"]]
Strong Bad reads the tale of The Homestar Runner turning into a ghost, and venturing into the Spooky Woods to face three fears and earn back his corporeal form.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Homestar Runner (storybook)}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Tiny-Handed Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|The Wheelchair}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Eh! Steve!}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Sherlock}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Storybook World]], [[The King of Town's Castle]], [[Spooky Woods]], [[The Field]], [[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes Land]] (Easter egg)

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'''Date:''' Wednesday, October 30, 2019

'''Running Time:''' 9:18 ([[TV Time Toons Menu]]), 6:06 (Actual), 10:05 (YouTube)

'''Page Title:''' The Homestar Runner Exits This Mortal Coil

==Transcript==
''{Music plays as the cover of a storybook is shown against an orange background, titled "homestar runner enters the spooky woods contest" and subtitled "a thoroughly hallowed ween story for kids and children aboth"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{narrating}'' The Homestar Runner Enters the Spooky Woods Contest. Er—never mind. ''{an X appears over the word "contest"}''

''{The first page shows The Homestar Runner against the same orange background, in front of a red-orange pumpkin. The caption reads, "Everyone loves The Homestar Runner. He is a terrific athlete."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Everybody loves The Homestar Runner. ''{Homestar poses happily}'' He is an athletic terrife. ''{the caption changes to "athletic terrife"; Homestar plops down again and gives Strong Bad a weird look}''

''{The next page shows The Homestar Runner and Pom Pom in the storybook field.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Once upon that singular time, The Homestar Runner and Pom Pom were playing it safe.

''{The Homestar Runner concentrates for a moment with his eyes closed, then straightens, his eyes popping.}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Mmm... ah! I did it! Now it's your turn to think about a soft pillow, Pom Pom!

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubbles, eyelids lowered}''

''{Enter Tiny-Handed Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and Strong Sad, each wearing a mask}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Up bounded The Fearsome Brothers Strong wearing scary monster outfits.

'''TINY-HANDED STRONG BAD:''' ''{wavy motion lines coming from his mouth}'' HORRORSHOW!!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Burped Strong Bad.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' SUCH A FRIGHT!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Squelched The Homestar Runner, and he lay down and died.

''{The Homestar Runner lays down and turns transparent. A white ghost Homestar with a wiggly tail floats up from his body.}''

'''TINY-HANDED STRONG BAD:''' Uh... that was unexpected.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Admitted Strong Bad just now.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as his ghost}'' Oh no! I gave up the ghost!

'''STRONG SAD:''' You'll stay that way unless you enter the spooky woods ''{the spooky woods is shown as ominous music plays}'' and face your 3 fears before the witching hour!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''[Said Strong Sad.]'' Quothed Lord High Plotlayer.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{determined look}'' It's what I must do! Let's go Pom Pom!

''{Wide shot reveals Pom Pom is gone. Homestar looks distressed.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' But Pom Pom had already gone to a party at some rich kid's house.

''{Cut to outside the Prince of Town's castle, where Pom Pom, wearing sunglasses, is floating in the pool. The Poopsmith bounces on the diving board repeatedly. Party music plays. Cut back to a close-up of The Homestar Runner.}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{each gulp is simply captioned "gulp"}'' I (gulp) guess (gulpo) I'm on (gulpamundo) my own (Gulp Fantasy 2000).

'''STRONG BAD:''' Tedioused The Homestar Runner at great risk to the listenability of the story.

''{Cut to the entrance to the spooky woods, where ghost Homestar floats in, looking nervous}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And so The Dead Homestar Runner entered the Spooky Woods.

''{The Dead Homestar Runner floats through the spooky woods}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No amount of gulps can express how scared I am!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Just then, he came face to face with his first fear!

''{A life science textbook with a picture of a frog on the cover pops into existence before him, then opens to page 73, which has a picture of an pink organelle}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh no! Page 73 of my old life science textbook!

'''COACH ZEE:''' ''{speaking as the organelle}'' Can you identify this organelle, that is located in a plant cell?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Asked the life science textbook in Coach Z's voice for some reason.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{angrily}'' I'm not gulp-afraid of you... Golgi Apparatus!

'''COACH ZEE:''' Apporparortus! ''{the textbook closes and vanishes}''

''{The Homestar Runner's hat "ding"s into color}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That was easy! I'll have my corporeal form back in no time!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Said The Homestar Runner after ''clearly'' consulting a thesaurus.

''{The Homestar Runner leaves the scene. The Brothers Strong rise up from behind a teal-colored bush with purple berries.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Meanwhile, behind a very great bush, the Brothers Strong were schemin' and steamin'.

'''TINY-HANDED STRONG BAD:''' All types of drat!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Said Strong Bad, ''{not captioned}'' coining an awesome new phrase that will endure throughout the ages. ''{Tiny-Handed Strong Bad grins}''

'''TINY-HANDED STRONG BAD:''' We've got to make sure his next fear is so gruesome, he won't be able to face it!

'''STRONG MAD:''' Grunt!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Grunted Grunt Mad.

'''STRONG SAD:''' I'm here because family is hard to say no to.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Said a pallid bust of Pallas.

''{Cut to ghost Homestar floating through the woods}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And so The Little-Bit-Less-Dead Homestar Runner forged ahead, and faced his next fear. Which was...

''{A bathtub full of vomit and eyeballs appears against a pink and purple background as a spooky sound plays}''

'''TINY-HANDED STRONG BAD:''' Eyeball barf bath!

''{Wide shot. Strong Mad is vomiting eyeballs into the bathtub while Tiny-Handed Strong Bad stands by him.}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, I'm not scared of that. Boooo! ''{jumps into the bathtub, sticks his head up, and spits out an eyeball}'' Pa-too!

''{Close-up of The Homestar Runner, who is surrounded by a golden aura}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Luxuriates my skin!

'''TINY-HANDED STRONG BAD:''' What the...?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Almost cussed Strong Bad. ''{Tiny-Handed Strong Bad puts a glove over his mouth}''

'''TINY-HANDED STRONG BAD:''' ''{suddenly scared}'' But I am scared of... gulp gulp gulp gulp gulp gulp... FRILLY TOOTHPICKS!!!

''{Cut to Strong Sad, who is holding a plate of club sandwiches with frilly toothpicks}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And all eyes turned to Strong Sad's club sammich.

'''TINY-HANDED STRONG BAD:''' That's stupid! No one's afraid of frilly toothpicks!

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh. ''{gets out of the bath}'' Oh, you're right. Thanks Strong Bad!

''{The Homestar Runner gains his red star shirt.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{"had" is not spoken aloud}'' And with that, The Homestar Runner ''[had]'' successfully faced his second fear.

''{The Homestar Runner floats on}''

'''TINY-HANDED STRONG BAD:''' All types of drat!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Repeated Strong Bad, flirting with oversaturating the market with his new phrase too soon.

'''TINY-HANDED STRONG BAD:''' It looks like we have to come up with something stupid and weird, not gruesome.

''{Cut to The Homestar Runner floating through the woods}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And so The Nearly-Not-Dead Homestar Runner ventured deeper into the spooky woods.

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Two down, one to go! I wonder what horrors my third fear will bring.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Just then he came to a clearing in the woods.

''{The Homestar Runner witnesses Tiny-Handed Strong Bad and Strong Mad playing ping-pong on a round kitchen table}''

'''TINY-HANDED STRONG BAD:''' Look at us! We're playing ping-pong on a kitchen table. Not regulation in the slightest!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Said Strong Bad wearing dress shoes with no socks. ''{close-up of Tiny-Handed Strong Bad's feet; he is indeed}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' While definitely illegal, I don't think non-regulation ping-pong is my third fear.

'''TINY-HANDED STRONG BAD:''' Well it doesn't matter anyway, ''{wide silhouetted shot; the moon has a clock displayed on it that's nearly at midnight}'' 'cause it's almost the witching hour and now you'll be stuck like this forever!

''{Dramatic close-up of Tiny-Handed Strong Bad whacking the ping-pong ball in midair}''

'''TINY-HANDED STRONG BAD:''' SLAMMA JAMMA!

'''STRONG BAD:''' And Strong Bad slammed the ball with wicked topspin. ''{the ball soars past The Homestar Runner in slow motion, then rolls into some brambles}'' And it flew into the Thorny Thicket, revealing...

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' OH NO!! My final fear!!

''{Cut to the gruesome sight of exactly what Homestar describes:}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' A half-decomposed raccoon being carried around by a family of wet pigeons!! ''{the pigeons approach the ping-pong ball}''

''{Cut back to The Homestar Runner, Strong Mad and Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Said the Homestar Runner in a ''children's book''. ''{the words each become italicized as he reads them}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Awww, but look. The gross wet pigeons think Strong Bad's ping-pong ball is an egg!

''{The pigeons plus raccoon sit down on top of the ball}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' They're gonna hatch it!

''{Cut back to the trio}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' They were just as gulp of me, as I was gulp of them!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Said the Homestar Runner, ''really'' shoe-horning some kind of half-baked moral into this thing.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Behold! The witching hour!

''{The moon clock strikes midnight with a gong sound}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And so having faced his three fears, Homestar Runner gained back his corporeal form. ''{The Homestar Runner gains back his legs}'' Said narrator Strong Bad, who totally already knew what 'corporeal' meant, like, ''way'' before this book.

''{Close-up on The Homestar Runner, whose backside seems to "ding"}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, hey hey! ''{wide shot; a transparent ghost tail is protruding from under his shirt}'' Looks like I get to keep my squiggily ghost-tail! ''{turns his rear to Tiny-Handed Strong Bad}'' Does it tickle your fancy, Mr. Strong Bad? ''{makes a duck face and starts making high-pitched noises}''

'''TINY-HANDED STRONG BAD:''' SUCH A FRIGHT!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Moaned Strong Bad and he lay down and died.

''{Tiny-Handed Strong Bad lays down and turns transparent. A white ghost Strong Bad with a wiggly tail floats up from his body.}''

'''TINY-HANDED STRONG BAD:''' Now ''I'' gave up the ghost!

''{Silhouetted wide shot}''

'''ALL BUT TINY-HANDED STRONG BAD:''' Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Laughed all the other characters in a satisfying, end-of-story fashion.

''{The page turns to a gray "end." screen. As Strong Bad speaks, a new storybook appears: "strong bad's ghost enters the homestar runner", with an illustration of Tiny-Handed Strong Bad's ghost being sucked into a surprised The Homestar Runner}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Join us next week, children, when we read "Strong Bad's Ghost Enters The Homestar Runner, Thereby Possessing Him Demonically". ''{the additional part of the title appears as he reads it}''

''{Cut to the modern day characters, costume-less, standing in the field at night. Strong Bad is holding the book.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Such a great story, Strong Bad.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks, I just r—read it. To you.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{puzzled}'' Um, I know.

'''COACH Z:''' Say, is there something missin' here?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh crap! We forgot to put on our cos''tumes''!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wait, our ''cos''tumes or our cos''tumes''?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' We'd better peow outta here and get changed!

'''ALL:''' PEOW! ''{they dash off, then reappear in their Halloween costumes}''

==Easter Eggs==
* At the end, click on The Cheat.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, The Cheat! I really like your Emperor Eh! Steve costume!
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{in a Powered-by-The-Cheat voice, as the top part of his head swivels to allow his mouth to open wide}'' Cheatsa Cheatsa!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! Did no one else just see that?!
:'''THE CHEAT:''' It's just a certain way I do things.
* At the end, click on Bubs.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say Buuubs! Say Bubs! Say Bub-Bub-Buuubs! ''{rocking back and forth and punctuating each word lightly}'' You are dressed as the Aladdin Genie dressed as Captain Lou Albano and there's nothing you can do to make me think otherwise.
:'''BUBS:''' Okay.
:''{Organ music plays as Homestar turns into a skeleton. He then collapses, but returns to his normal self after a moment.}''
* At the end, click on Strong Mad.
:'''STRONG MAD:''' SYD BARRETT!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, sorry, big guy. He wasn't in the band when they made that album.
:'''STRONG MAD:''' UH... WIZARD OF OZ!!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, nope, wrong album there too.
:'''STRONG MAD:''' MY BODY'S A REALLY HARD SHAPE TO MAKE COSTUMES FOR!
* At the end, click on Homestar.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Sooo... what am I looking at here, Homestar? You dressed as '70s Homestar that dropped out of college and backpacked across Scandinavia?
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, pretty much.
:'''STRONG SAD:''' No way! He's dressed as Snufkin from ''{exaggerated accent}'' Tove Jansson's ''{normal}'' Moomintroll books, comics, and cartoons!
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' Doo-doo-doot doot! ''{leans toward Strong Bad}'' Bah bahbah baah bah baah baah bah baah baah! ''{leans toward Marzipan}'' Bah bahbah baah bah baah baah bah baah baah! ''{leans toward Strong Bad}'' Bah bahbah baah bah baah baah bah baah baah baaaaaaaaah!
* At the end, click on the King of Town.
:'''STRONG SAD:''' Nice Mighty Boosh reference there, King of Town!
:'''KING OF TOWN:''' Mighty what? This is just what happens when you fall asleep chewing eight packs of Hubba Bubba!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' You're a Hubba Bubba nightmare, all right.
* At the end, click on Pom Pom.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooh, Pom Pom! Do some Mode 7 for us!
:''{A pixelated image of Pom Pom in costume grows and spins toward the camera, and then back to Pom Pom's original position as he returns to normal.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw yeah! Pixels the size of your face!
* At the end, click on Strong Sad.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Strong Sad! I really like your "give me nightmares forever and always" costume!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, what are you supposed to be, the lovechild of Dobby the house elf and Ron Weasley from some of your fanfiction?
:'''STRONG SAD:''' No no! I'm from the Cremaster Cycle! I assure you it's ''way'' more pretentious than any of my fanfic!
* At the end, click on the Poopsmith.
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Ah, The Poopsmith. Looking at your costume, I can almost hear the satisfying-slash-skin-crawling plastic squeak of that oversized white clam shell VHS case!
:''{The Poopsmith spreads his wide orange wings with a loud plastic squeak}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' That's it!
:''{The Poopsmith folds his wings back in}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I thought you already dressed up as Trondorman, like, twenty years ago!
:'''STRONG SAD:''' Ooh! I smell a shared cinematic universe—!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up.
* At the end, click on Coach Z.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Coach Z, if you don't want to I can live with that, ''{rhythmically}'' but you gotta put back the double-knit reversible stripèd pants!
:''{Coach Z produces a pair of red and white striped pants}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' There's no need to argue, I just don't understand how you haven't run out of costume ideas yet!
:'''COACH Z:''' I'm pretty sure this is the last one! I'm grarspin' at straws here!
* At the end, click on Homsar.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Homsar, that is the most accurate patriotic Hovan Roll costume I've ever seen!
:'''HOMSAR:''' AaAaAa! Contraption flaption, what's your hedge fund?
* At the end, click on Strong Bad.
:'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh, Strong Bad, you're a big devotee of Bic pens now apparently?
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Of course, shut up! I'm known far and wide for my enthusiasm for... Bic ballpoint pens. Look it up.
* At the end, click on Marzipan.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Marzipan, I really like your—
:'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar, let me stop you right there. I have no idea what this is from. I just wore what Strong Sad told me to wear.
:'''STRONG SAD:''' Yeah, and honestly, I only saw the movie once when I was, like, ten. I just like that pirate guy.
* At the end, click on the moon to see a [[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] scene.
:'''THE WHEELCHAIR:''' Emperor Eh!-gustus Steve!, what hath you wrought?
:''{Reverse shot shows Eh! Steve! with a laurel crown, holding a spear topped with Sherlock. A line of Homestar statues is in the background, as well as a number of palm tree shapes.}''
:'''EH! STEVE!:''' Eh! Steve!
* At the end, click on the stars a little above and to the right of Bubs's head to see an edited scene from [[dragon]]:
:''{Strong Bad is at the [[Compy 386]], having typed, "A dragon? That's easy!"}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Feel free to follow along with my simple step by step instructions.
:''{The scene is paused, VHS style. A Powered by The Cheat Strong Bad face is drawn on the back of Strong Bad's head.}''
:'''STRONG BAD FACE:''' ''{holds up a blue pen shape labelled "Bic" with a misshapen glove and speaks in Powered by The Cheat voice}'' And don't forget to use a Bic... point pen! I...
:'''PEN:''' ''{speaks in the same voice}'' I am always using it.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*The [[Wikipedia:Golgi apparatus|golgi apparatus]] is a part of a eukaryotic cell that encloses protein products within vesicles and transports them throughout the cell.

===Trivia===
*The [[YouTube]] description for this toon is "Strong Bad reads the gang a chilling new children's book for Halloween! All types of drat!"
*This is the first time The Cheat is shown onscreen while speaking comprehensibly.
*This is the first time all 12 main characters have an Easter egg when clicked on at the end.

===Remarks===
*The Poopsmith is seen partying at the pool, while he was specifically forbidden from entering in [[keep cool]].
*While in costume, Homestar does not blink as he normally does.
*Marzipan's line is presented in a slightly lower audio quality from the rest of the toon.

===Goofs===
[[File:SpookyWoodsDragonFont.png|200px|thumb|I make drawing incorrect fonts fun!]]
*In the Flash version, the first line on Strong Bad's computer is not displayed in the correct font. The same line is displayed correctly in the YouTube version.

===Inside References===
*Pom Pom abandoning Homestar to go to a cooler party occurred previously in [[senior prom]].
*Homestar [[Bathing|bathes]] in eyeball [[Puking|puke]].
*I'm Just a Bill was previously referenced in [[4 branches]].
*When Homestar says The Poopsmith previously dressed as "Trondorman", he's thinking of the Tron costume in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*Homestar guesses that Bubs is dressed as Captain Lou Albano, the costume he wore in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*The stripèd [[pants]] were previously seen in [[highschool]].
*Hovan rolls were previously mentioned in [[Halloween Potion Ma-jig]].
*Mode-7 was previously mentioned in the [[Haunted Photo Booth Teaser]] and [[SBCG4AP Advertisement]].
*The Homestar statue seen in the Eh!-gustus Steve Easter egg was previously seen in [[April Fool 2014]].
*The phrase "Cheatsa [Parties]" was first used in [[mile]] and then used in better context in [[pizza joint]].
*Strong Sad's fan fiction was previously shown in [[fan club]].
*The skeleton scene from Bubs' Easter egg was previously seen in [[Mr. Poofers Must Die]]. ''(See also [[#Real-World References]])''

===Real-World References===
*The Life Science textbook Homestar encounters is based on the 1999 edition of ''Life Science'' by Lucy Daniel, Edward Paul Ortleb, and Alton Biggs (ISBN 0028277775).
*"A pallid bust of Pallas" refers to [[Edgar Allan Poe]]'s poem ''[[wikipedia:The Raven|The Raven]]''.
*Two references are made to [[Don Bluth]] and his works:
**Bubs is dressed up as Commander Borf, the antagonist from ''Space Ace'', a game similar to ''Dragon's Lair''.
**In response, when Homestar Runner turns into a skeleton and collapses during the costume discussion at the end, it is a reference to one of the ways Dirk the Daring dies in the original ''Dragon's Lair''. Homestar was dressed as Dirk the Daring in [[Mr. Poofers Must Die]], doing the same gag.
*[[Wikipedia:Mode 7|Mode 7]] was a processing technique that allowed the Super [[Nintendo]] Entertainment System to scale and rotate visual elements. Although it wasn't used to animate Burt the Bashful in ''[[Wikipedia:Yoshi's Island|Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island]]'' (The Super FX-2 chip was used instead), his animations did distort his sprite in a Mode 7-esque manner.
*Strong Mad yells the name of [[Wikipedia:Syd Barrett|Syd Barrett]], a founding member of Pink Floyd who was ousted from the band in 1968.
*Strong Mad yelling "WIZARD OF OZ!", as well as Strong Bad's response that that's the "wrong album", is a reference to the [[wikipedia:Dark Side of the Rainbow|Dark Side of the Rainbow]] theory, which states that the Pink Floyd album [[wikipedia:The Dark Side of the Moon|The Dark Side of the Moon]] can be synchronized to ''[[The Wizard of Oz]]''.
*Homsar's line in his Easter egg is a corruption of a line from another [[Wikipedia:Schoolhouse Rock!|Schoolhouse Rock]] cartoon: "Conjunction Junction, what's your function?"
*Dobby and Ron Weasley are both characters from the [[wikipedia:Harry Potter|Harry Potter]] franchise.
*The "pirate guy" from [[Wikipedia:Galaxy Express 999|Galaxy Express 999]] that Strong Sad refers to could either be Emeraldes, who was the captain of the ''Queen Esmeraldes'' and aimed to switch bodies with Maetel, or Captain Harlock, who was the ruler of the Time Castle. Both are recurring characters in the works of Leiji Matsumoto.
*Strong Bad references the white clamshell VHS case [[Disney]] movies came in.
*The Eh!-gustus Steve Easter egg, with its Roman-style statues and cyan- and magenta-outlined palm tree, references the [[Wikipedia:Vaporwave|Vaporwave]] aesthetic.
*Homestar sings part of the theme to [[Wikipedia:Moomin (1990 TV series)|the 1990 Moomin TV anime series]] (on which the design of his costume is largely based).

==External Links==
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== Section Linking ==
I can't figure out [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page#Links.2C_URLs section linking]. For the Fun Facts section of this email, I'm trying to link to the easter eggs section of "stunt double". Here are several ways to do it, but none of them work:

*[[stunt double#Easter Eggs]]
*[[stunt double#easter eggs]]
*[[stunt_double#Easter_Eggs]]
*[[stunt_double#easter_eggs]]

What am I doing wrong? -- [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] 15:06, 27 Jul 2004 (MST)

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:It should be this: [[stunt double#Easter Eggs]]
:[http://beta.hrwiki.org/index.php/stunt_double#Easter_Eggs]

I have no idea. I think I'm pretty sure the underbar doesn't matter. I can't make anything out from [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Section#Section_linking this] either. What could it be? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:54, 27 Jul 2004 (MST)

:[[stunt double#Transcript]]
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Yup, still no idea. I thought maybe it had something to do with the spaces, but I guess it doesn't. Let's try something else...

:[[#Second section]]
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Okay, something must be wrong with our install. Those should work. It seems to not be recognizing the "#". -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:22, 28 Jul 2004 (MST)

Well, you remember all my anchors on my old wikipage, right? When I copied it to wikipedia, it did the same thing...maybe there's just something we're not doing right? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 15:12, 19 Aug 2004 (MST)

I don't know what it is. As Tom said, they ''should'' work. - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] 13:30, 24 Aug 2004 (MST)

Test:

http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=stunt_double#Easter_Eggs

http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=stunt_double%23Easter_Eggs

http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Stunt_double#Easter_Eggs

http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Stunt_double%23Easter_Eggs

I don't know the answer, but a difference is that the 2nd line gives a page with # in it, while the 4th does not. The 1st line works and can be used as workaround.--[[User:patrick|patrick]] 00:16, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)

:'''IT WORKS!!''' --[[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] 13:50, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

::Indeed it does! Though it is important to note that case still matters. As expected, I suppose.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:53, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

==Fun fact removal==

*When Strong Bad said that he's in a car, this is reference to the [[car|101st e-mail]] when he said that he has never been in a car. If there's a dangeresque 2, then Dangeresque 1 was filmed before the stunt double e-mail, which was before Strong Bad claimed that he was never in a car before. Therefore, Strong Bad was lying.

...because it was never made clear that Strong Bad owns the car: he was simply using it as a prop.

*I always thought that Dangeresque 1 was just thrown together as an excuse for not having Dangeresque 3. After all, the sign at the beginning says "Dangeresque 1" rather than simply "Dangeresque", and it also says "Not in 3D" which would make no sense if it was made before Strong Bad's announcement that D3 would be in 3D. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]] 15:23, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)

== Neva Blink ==
That fun fact about Strong Bad never blinking with his sunglasses on...uh...you may not have noticed, but Strong Bad never blinks as it is..ever. In fact, I once emailed him asking him why I've never seen him with his eyes closed. - [[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

*Here are some places to see Strong Bad with his eyes closed:
**[[In Search of the Yello Dello]]
**[[A Jorb Well Done]]
**[[Some Stupid Turkey]]
**[[super powers]]
--[[User:205.206.196.178|205.206.196.178]] 01:53, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

== Closed Fun Facts ==

These fun facts were on [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts|STUFF]] page and closed. If you wish to debate these, leave a note, but do not let your vote be confused with the original ones.

===Explanation needed? (DECLINED)===

The subtitle for Dangeresque 1, "Dangeresque, too?" explains why the subtitle for Dangeresque 2 was "This time, it's not Dangeresque 1"

*No... it really doesn't. It's a joke. '''3-Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 04:25, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
**Agreed. '''Second''' --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]][[User talk:Tony Stony|talk]]
**'''Second.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Really?! I never got it till now! [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Declinerween, Declinerween, You're 55 million light years from Accepterween!''' (in sarcastic voice) I'm absolutely stunned. I never noticed this! Whoever posted this fun fact should be like, a professor at like Harvard, or CGNU, man! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
*'''Decline''' - [[User:Song from 60s|Song from 60s]] 04:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' ..........What? [[User:The_Pardack|The_pardack]]
*'''Decline.''' Oy. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:33, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' <shatner> I... dontunderstand. </shatner> --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 18:49, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline with an iron fist.''' That doesn't even make sense. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 23:30, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second with a bronze fist.''' {{User:Rainer/sig}} 10:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' While I can't tell who's really being sarcastic and who's not, I think it's obvious if you just think about it for all of three seconds. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 06:26, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''You! Obey the Decline Fist!''' Or at least Rewrite so I know what you're talking about. --[[User:SaikoRoxi|SaikoRoxi]] 11:53 AM 21 May 2005
===Constantinople? (Declined)===
The fact that The King of Town was hiding in Istanbul may be a nod to [[They Might Be Giants]], who had a hit in 1990 called "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and have collaborated with [[The Brothers Chaps|TBC]] on several occasions.

*'''Decline.''' Istanbul is often used in the movies as a dangerous and exotic locale. Any resemblance to a TMBG song, living or dead, is purely coincidental. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:23, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' It's also [[Wikipedia:Istanbul|a real place]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 19:08, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Today's forecast is '''total crap.''' When will you people learn the difference between references and coincidences? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:37, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*"May be"...ugh. '''Decline''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept.''' This fact wasn't just added to the page yesterday; it's been there for ''nine months.'' It's listed in the history as far back as you can go. Thousands of visitors to the page have already seen it and have tacitly given it their approval. The comments above make it sound like there's ''no chance'' that TBC chose Istanbul intentionally, but let me '''put it in context:''' in the few weeks leading up to this email, there were several [[Puppet_Jam:_Vitamins/Celebrities|Puppet Jams]] added to the site. Just a few weeks after the email, [[Experimental Film]] was released (so, being a song, it was likely already in the works at the time of the email). And you're telling me they ''didn't'' have TMBG on the brain? I don't think so. Too coincidental. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:41, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second''' [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''I think not.''' Being on a page for a long time does not make a fact fun. It is a coincidence, 'nuff said. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:50, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' What It's dot com said. Believe me, if you listen to TMGB for too long, it's hard to think of Istanbul without mentally adding "...not Constantinople..." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:37, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Or maybe Istanbul is just a cool-sounding place and TBC weren't making a nod to TMBG. →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 14:42, 17 Apr 2005 (PDT)
*"I dunno about you The Ugly One, but I say this one should be '''accepted!'''" I really think so though. I agree with everybody who said it should be accepted. I've read over this debate, and do think that that whole thing's a TMBG refrence.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 21:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If, someday, a birdhouse shows up in a cartoon, will that be a reference to that birdhouse song? --[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 00:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**That's beside the point (although "birdhouse" is not a word that most people use every day). Just about everybody familiar with TMBG knows their song "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" and identifies one with the other. I again refer you to the ''context'' of last summer (see my comments above), and considering that, I really don't think this fact is a stretch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' Well, I never gave this thing any approval, tacit or otherwise. I've patrolled this page many times and everytime I read this "fact" I wrinkled my nose. I avoided STUFF-ing it because (1) unless I'm in the right mood it's tiresome and tedious and (b) I was afraid to expose my lack of hepitude. Hep or not, I still maintain this fact is based on the purest of speculation. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:31, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' The Istanbul song is NOT originally TMBG. My google search says it was written in 1953, and it was reasonably popular before TMBG came along.
**'''Comment.''' He comes the [http://www.songlyrics.com/song-lyrics/Four_Lads/Miscellaneous/Istanbul_(not_Constantinople)/147257.html link]! Istanbul (Not Constantinople). Artists: The Four Lads ... peak Billboard position # 10 in 1953 ... Words by Jimmy Kennedy and Music by Nat Simon -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***The question isn't whether TMBG wrote the song (a ''lot'' of cover versions of songs are as popular as or more popular than their original versions, so this too is beside the point), but whether Istanbul is a reasonable reference to TMBG, and if so whether TBC might reasonably be referencing them by choosing Istanbul. On close calls like this, where the two parties have a known relationship and were demonstrably collaborating at the time, is the standard of proof ''really'' "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Beyond_a_reasonable_doubt|beyond a reasonable doubt]]," or would a "[[Wikipedia:Burden_of_proof#Balance_of_probabilities|preponderance of the evidence]]" standard apply? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:08, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***Call me Cletus if'n ya want, but, a single word on a placard does not a reference make! Now, if the sign had Constantinople crossed out with Istanbul written below it, well ... then we're talking reference! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:21, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Aha! Now ''that's'' an argument that addresses the heart of the issue. Especially the "crossed out" part. Good prize! I'm not going to ''officially'' downgrade my vote above to neutral ('cause I don't think it will matter anyway), but, off the record, my support for including this fact is dwindling (although not gone). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Leaning towards decline.''' It may have been a SLIGHT reference, but mainly just because it's a weird sounding, yet somewhat well-known place. Hey, Istanbul was a big part of my Geography test.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 17:05, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== All right for a montage ===
{{stufffact|The end credit photo montage is similar to the one Strong Bad created in [[montage]].}}
{{stuffverdict|22:35, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)|00:50, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|8|0|dangeresque 3}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== People's Court ===
{{stufffact|As he drives, Strong Bad hums "The Theme From Dangeresque," which is actually "The [http://www.80stvthemes.com/ra/PEOPLESCOURT.ra theme] From [[Wikipedia:The People's Court|The People's Court]]".}}
{{stuffverdict|17:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)|08:42, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|13|1|dangeresque 3}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== So holdable a gun ===
{{stufffact|The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on [http://www.thoraxcorp.com/intern.html this] Thoraxcorp.com page.}}
{{stuffverdict|03:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)|07:53, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|11|1|dangeresque 3}}

==Goof?==
The Homestar Runner had no trouble remembering his lines in Dangeresque 3, however he couldn't remember them in "First Time Here?" or in "Fluffy Puff Commercial." Should this be added to the Wiki page for this email?
*There is no proof that Homestar got his lines perfectly. FTH and FPC are pretty much just blooper reels. Dangeresque is a true movie, so they would re-shoot until he got it right, and then use 'that' shot. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 18:23, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
**However, if Homestar couldn't get his lines perfectly, Strong Bad would have kicked him off the set and recast someone else as Dangeresque Too. Strong Bad was fed up with Homestar forgetting his lines in "First Time Here" and forcefully took over. Considering Dangeresque 1 was comprised of several scenes instead of just a short announcement, Strong Bad would most certainly not brook Homestar's ineptitude.
**I believe he was improv-ing. His speech seemed a bit more confident than regular Homestar-babble. He was uncharacteristically focused and serious during this film. Although he responded to the word "Dangeresque" and laughed cheesily at the same times as SB did those things, the two of them could have been "on the same page" and willingly cooperating for the short time of the email. I think it's happened before. If he was making it up on the spot, he wouldn't have lines to memorize.
I think it should be added to show one extreme of Homestar's personality.

"First Timer Here?" and "Fluffy Puff Commercial" were both made a while ago. Homestar's memory and skill to remember information could have increased over this time period. [[User:Teh_Frossty_One|Teh_Frossty_One]]

== Really late fun fact ==

I have a hunch that SB imitating the phone ring juuust might be a reference to the extra-low-budget scifi film Monster-a-Go-Go (which the IMDB currently ranks as the worst film ever). You see, due to the low budget and the director not being a very good director, a guy offscreen imitated the phone ringing. It's probably a bit of a stretch, though. This is really late because I discovered the wiki in the time of the NSMC vandal. Well, right before that actually, but I still didn't know that much about H*R. --I'll get a username soon, but for now my name is... um... Bob. I don't have much imagination. [[User:69.171.44.42|69.171.44.42]]

== Miscellaneous Downloads link ==

It isn't working here, but it's working in [[huttah!]]. Why? --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 02:42, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
:Seems to be working now (at least in the flash movie it is.) {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

== Here comes little debate with a gun in its hands ==

<blockquote>The line, "Here comes little email with a gun in his hand," is an exact mimic of the line "Here comes little THORAX with a gun in his hand," found on Thoraxcorp.com's intern page. This line could also be reference to the song "Little Man With a Gun in His Hand" by The Minutemen, one of Matt Chapman's favorite bands.</blockquote>

"Could be." I submit that the part of this fact relating to Thorax is an Inside Ref., the "could be" is a ref to Real-World. Discuss. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:14, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

== Commentary Fast Forward? ==
Is it worth putting in here that Mike's comment about this being the only time we see the top of Bubs' would later be incorrect, after the appearance in [[retirement]]?

== Authorship of the theme ==

I believe that Larry said on the concert that alright 4 2nite was written by Limozeen. I guess that should be added to this article.

== Cast setup ==

I reverted [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=dangeresque_3&diff=568354&oldid=566412&rcid=526025 this edt] which modified the cast list from our usual style, however, i'm wondering whether it's not better like that (on this email only, due to the "A as B" style). Thoguhts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:I went ahead and restored it. The cast was {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=dangeresque_3&diff=prev&oldid=394582 changed to bulleted-list form}} some time ago and then {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=dangeresque_3&diff=prev&oldid=476233 removed with no explanation}}. See also [[A Decemberween Pageant]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== E-mail 106 seems to be broken ==

The main page just hit it with the randomizer but the e-mail won't play. If I do the randomizer again I get another cartoon, but even if I try to go to 106 directly with the link on this page it doesn't work. (And if my internets were down, down, d-d-d-d-down, how could I be posting this now?) [[Special:Contributions/68.225.171.64|68.225.171.64]] 06:57, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
:This is a fairly recent problem. You can solve the issue with the instructions [[HRWiki:Toon loading problems|here]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:59, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

== Roger Rabbit reference ==

Thought I should get input before adding this as a real world reference. Does anyone else think "Let's get one thing straight, meatball... face... butt. I work alone" is a reference to when Eddie Valiant says "Let's get this straight, meatball. I don't work for toons" in ''Who Framed Roger Rabbit''? They're both detectives and they use similar phrasing when talking about who they will or will not work with. --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 06:32, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Emails Taken in a Different Direction

ComputerBox — Mon, 06 Dec 2010 03:41:02 GMT

ComputerBox: /**/Different direction comes later?

What should we do about emails like [[long pants]] and [[the paper]] where he ''tried'' to twist the email, but the email twisted itself back onto the topic? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
:Long pants: complete twist; no one tried to get H*R to wear pants or even asked why he dosen't wear pants (SB just noted it), and the email was misread. The paper: no twist, whole thing was spent on the topic of the paper's "death". {{User:That_game_dude386/sig}} 00:10, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

==More than 2 problems?==
There are a couple issues with this article before it is cleaned up. First, the title should be clearer. The idea is fine, but I don't immediately think of "twisting emails" when I am considering the idea of using an email for a tangental idea. Secondly, the page needs to follow standard format:

<nowiki>*Email [[email]] — blah blah blah</nowiki>

Thirdly, examples of where Strong Bad goes off on a tangent should be moved beyond the Tandy 400 era and sectioned appropriately. Finally, some entries need to be cleaned up. For example, [[the bird]] doesn't fit, since "giving somebody the bird" is slang for flipping people off, which is the subject of the email and Strong Bad's response. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

== Removed Facts ==

[[Who Said What Now?|The DeFender1031 says]]: I removed a bunch of facts from this page, here's the removed facts and why:

===i love you===
*In the email [[i love you]], Strong Bad mentions nothing about anything in the email besides his/her name.
There wasn't anything more to the email except "i love you" and he replies that the feeling isn't mutual before going off on the majority of the email (as the name is longer than the email itself). {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===credit card===
*In the email [[credit card]], he receives an email from John and some people trying to steal Strong Bad's credit card number, he shifts the email to be about "[[Homestar]]" and uses his credit card information to buy things on "the_coolest_things_ever.com"
How is this twisting? He's responding to the email by using it to his advantage. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===i she be===
*In [[i she be]], Strong Bad is sent a phony email saying a girl was named great looking girl. After he plays along with it, he yells at her saying he gets a lot of emails like that and from "ladies with proper grammar" but then feels sorry for her. Thinking that he shouldn't let the email go to waste, he sends it to "[[The Cheat]]", later they text each other on an I.M.
What part of this is twisting? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===trevor the vampire===
*In the email [[trevor the vampire]], since Trevor doesn't finish the sentence, Strong Bad tries to make an email in his honor, thinking that "they" got him.
How is he supposed to respond to a half-finished email? Trevor didn't even say anything for Strong Bad to twist! {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, he DID address for him to do something other than memorializing the email, the vampire thing had nothing to do with the email itself.

===studying===
*Email [[studying]] — he "advises" Roy to stop studying and spend time with his girlfriend. He later tries to steal his girlfriend, but he says that doesn't know her name or where she lives.
Again, not twisting anything. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===stand-up===
*In [[stand-up]], Joe p. wants him to do stand-up comedy. He repeatedly states "no", trying to avoid telling about an embarrassing thing that had happened to him before. "[[Strong Sad]]" comes in shortly after to show a tape of [[Lil' Strong Bad]] doing stand-up, somehow ending up in his [[pants]] falling for no real reason.
This is a [[blatant lie]], not a twisting of an email. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I think it sort of qualifies as both.

===CGNU===
*In the email [[CGNU]], Strong Bad, instead of telling how to graduate at [[CGNU]], he ends up making an advertisement for it. Also revealing that CGNU is not a real college an applying for it is just to make fun of you.
He is asked how someone can graduate from CGNU and he responds with an ad about getting your degree from CGNU, makes sense to me... (the disclaimer at the end is a throwaway one-liner, and could also be construed as a "you can't" response to the email. either way, it's not a twist.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===flag day===
*In [[flag day]] Strong Bad goes immediately from introducing the flag to singing the [[Strong Badia]] song.
He shows everybody the flag, what more do you want? Is it not proper to sing one's national anthem as you raise the flag? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===property of ones===
*In the email [[property of ones]], he responds to his email with 2 sentences before trailing off to his [[bogus mathematical theorem]]
He responds. Then goes into his bogus theorum. Not twisting, elaborating. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
The ORIGINAL description addressed that he sometimes trails away from the email, confuses facts, AND "twists" the email.

===little questions===
*In [[little questions]] Strong Bad gets an email from a Swedish person, misspelling things and making grammatical errors throughout. Strong Bad responds in what he knows of how the Swedish talk, instead of answering without leaving a big question on what just happened.
He responds to gibberish with gibberish, as best he can. What's the problem here? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

===marzipan===
*In [[marzipan]] Strong Bad goes from Emily's question about how nobody ever sees him with any girls. She mentions that [[the only girl]] she's ever seen even near him is [[Marzipan]]. Strong Bad then starts ranting that [[Marzipan]] can't keep her "hands" offa me (although this is entirely untrue).
Again, a [[blatant lie]], not a twist.
There are instances where an email can have more than one running gag in it, so don't shoot down every instance like that.

===In addition===
There are a few that I left in that aren't blatantly going against the subject of the email, but still don't answer it entirely, which raises the question, what is the scope of this page? Is it about instances like [[big white face]] and [[homsar]] where the intent is clearly one thing but he does the complete opposite, or should it include instances like [[retirement]] and [[rough copy]], where strong bad sort of does what's asked but not really, or goes off on some unrelated tangent without first answering the email? (ones where he does first answer it definitely don't count, and i removed a bunch of those above.) The ones that are still there that I am referring to in particular are:
*[[some kinda robot]]
*[[retirement]]
*[[strong badathlon]]
Thoughts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, it could be those that aren't blantantly going against the email, but still don't answer it completely, about instances like [[big white face]] and [[homsar]], '''and''' include instances like [[retirement]] and [[rough copy]]. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:I've been invited to add [[old comics]] and [[no loafing]] to the list here. While I'm at it, Defender, can I ask, what [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&offset=20071209235020&limit=1&curid=39603&action=history consensus] are you talking about? Barely 2 hours ago you undid my own removal of these from the article, but all of a sudden you've been convinced of a consensus and you've gone ahead with these removals and more? Where was any of it discussed and who participated? I'm just wondering because it's not clear to me what makes action acceptable, since mine was not (to you) but your own (nearly identical one) apparently is. 76.254.87.139 00:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::Because i didn't think they belonged there to begin with, but i didn't remove them until i saw consensus. The talk is fragmented all over this page and edit summaries in the history, but after [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&diff=525716&oldid=525714&rcid=482465 this edit] it seemed to me that there were enough people in favor of the removal and none against. I AGREED with you from the start, i just wanted to wait for more consensus to be sure. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Anyway, you're right, a username is a good idear. Tenderly, I remain... [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 00:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

===Emails from the Intro===
I hope 3 days afterwards isn't too late for me to bring up this thing from the intro I shortened:
*Unusually, some of the mixed up emails actually create major parts of the [[Homestar Runner universe]]; [[Dangeresque]], several [[running gags]], [[Homsar]], [[Limozeen]], [[kicking The Cheat]], etc.
If I remember these emails correctly, he didn't even ''try'' to twist them. He created Dangeresque as proof he didn't need a [[stunt double]], he brought up Limozeen because some kid asked him to help come up with [[band names]], and he kicked The Cheat to show what he would do if a [[little animal]] came up to him. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC) 
Never did it mention he TRIED to, but it DID say that they WERE created whether or not it was intentional
::The point of my post was that these emails were not "mixed up" at all. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:52, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
:Not to mention Kicking The Cheat [[Original Book|predates Strong Bad Email]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:36, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

===monster truck===
*Email [[monster truck]]— Stan and Loretta ask Strong Bad if he has ever done advertising for monster truck shows. He then twists it into him doing voice overs for [[Strong Badia]] events.
What is twisted about answering "do you do monster truck commercials" by making fun of a monster truck commercial????? You might as well have said that [[japanese cartoon]] was twisted because Strong Bad did not hire any Japanese cartoonists. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:18, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Email tags? ==

Since this page can only have appearances in emails, is it necessary to write "Email" at the beginning of each line? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

== Rename ==

I think it needs a new name. No ideas though. Anyone else got any? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:20, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:How 'bout '''Ignored''' emails. {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::Nah, that sounds like it's just talking about the [[unused emails]]. He's not ignoring them, he's doing the opposite. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Oppisite? {{User:KlingOnMyDreams/sig}} 16:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, thanks DeFender for taking care of three of the four issues I identified and it looks like there are still plenty of content there. How about "Tangental responses"? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 19:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, i think that [[#In addition|the scope of the page]] needs to be clearly defined before we can come up with a name. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:30, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::If anything, I thing "emails" in the title needs to be capitalized. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 23:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::But of course. We're still left without an actual name... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::How 'bout "Strong Bad forgetting the task in an email"? {{User:Don't say jorb 101/sig}}
::::::::Too long, Clanky! TOO LONG! {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:"Derailed Emails", "Hijacked Emails", or "Diverted Emails" :) '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 05:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::We should definitely change it. I like "Hijacked Emails" best so far, but I don't think it's a very good title.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
How about "Off-topic sbemail (responses)"
I created the article, and when I did, I too was puzzled with a title name, but I thought it could be discussed. So, as the creator, I agree with Off-topic Sbemails

How about "email spins" [[User:The-homsarrunner|The-homsarrunner]] 6:34 Jan,13,2008 (UTC)
:But...I like "Derailed Emails"! Not only does it describe what happens in each email, it rhymes! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:35, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'm still not comfortable with the Derailed Emails name. I've been thinking and how about calling it "Diverted Emails" or just "Disregarded Emails" following the wording of the intro? For now I'm removing (commenting out) this from the Strong Bad Email [[Template:StrongBadEmailInfo|navigation template]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:29, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
::"Derailed emails" implies a trainwreck, but these emails are nothing of the sort. I like something along the lines of "Taking it in a different direction", drawn from one of the primary examples, or any of Mr/Mrs/Ms/Other [[User:Stux|Stux]]'s ideas just above. --[[Wikipedia:User:Andrei Iosifovich|Cheating the signature dealio]] 2:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Disregarded emails is not a good idea because it makes it sound like Strong Bad did not answer them at all. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:23, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
::::"emails taken in a different direction"? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::On the one hand, it's a bit long. On the other, it matches Strong Bad's wording in [[1 step ahead]]. I rather like it, actually. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I think we should keep this article name.

<blockquote>
de·rail (\di-ˈrāl, dē-\); transitive verb 

'''1:''' to cause to run off the rails 

'''2 a:''' to obstruct the progress of '''b:''' to upset the stability or composure of
</blockquote>

I would oppose "Emails taken in a different direction". It is too long, and article titles do not really need to make references to anything. In fact, that just makes browsing the wiki more difficult.

An exception would be [[Bogus Mathematical Theorems]], but then again, Strong Bad explicitly stated them all to be just that, whereas he has explicitly taken an email in a different direction once. I like "Derailed Emails"; it's short, simple, definitive, and there's no better word to replace ''derailed'' that I can think of off-hand. '''Keep.''' --{{User:Sysrq868/sig}} 00:37, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

:I like"'''Emails Taken in a Different Direction'''". It's not ''that'' long, and of all the proposed titles so far, it does the best job at accurately describing the article.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 07:02, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

::Wha bou' Disregaurded E-mails?--[[User:Homsarm|Homsarm]] 16:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:::"Disregarded" makes it sound like he deleted the emails without reading them. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:57, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::This discussion has been open for four and a half months. It's time to close it. At present, there is no consensus, although a few users have converged on '''Emails Taken in a Different Direction'''. As I see it, we can have one of two things happen: 1. We can, in the next few days, come to a consensus to change the title, or 2. We don't, and I'll close the discussion as no consensus and default to keeping as is. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:19, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::While unhappy with the accuracy of "Derailed Emails", I find "Emails taken in a different direction" slightly long. Hmmm, I guess I prefer accuracy over short and to the point, so I'm leaning towards the new title if we can indeed agree on it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:31, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Ooops, as Heimstern pointed out, the new title matches Strong Bad's wording in [[1 step ahead]]. Excellent suggestion, I'm all for it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:37, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::'''Emails Taken in a Different Direction''' - or '''Emails Taken in Different Directions''', which may be better - is more canonic, and though a little long isn't really a bad length. '''Rename''' accordingly. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:00, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Throwing in my support of the new name. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 06:15, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Move to mails taken in a different direction. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 12:57, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, looks like we reached consensus after all! I've renamed accordingly. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:11, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
:Huh. Pointless and a worse name. And nice concensus. What, three people? Four? A wikiposturing joke to be sure. "Oh no he decided to Be Bold and changed the name after discussion stopped for a long time. We can't leave it like that! Why? ... Because!" Pfft. -- [[Special:Contributions/208.60.233.31|208.60.233.31]] 04:52, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
::A modicum of respect for others' opinions would be appreciated, please. As for the new name, I count ''seven'' supporters, not three or four (DeFender1031, myself, JohnnyJupiter, Loafing, Qermaq, DAGRON and Bad Bad Guy). I recognize that there was some support for the existing title, notably from SysRq and yourself, whom I assume based on your comments to be the user who boldly moved the article before. I'm not going to comment on the merits of this action (it honestly may have been helpful in the long run by rekindling discussion), nonetheless, there was a very high degree of support for the new title, overwhelmingly more support for it than the old one. This is consensus, not some posturing move. If you don't like the new name, fine. We don't make people like the results. Heck, I'm still pissed we merged Blistergeist. But I certainly don't call ideas supported by others "crap" over it. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh, and in case you didn't notice this part: there was a point at which I was about ready to close this as no consensus, back when there were in fact only three users supporting the new title. I did not lightly decide there was consensus for the rename, and certainly not as some sort of retaliation for your not having followed process earlier. As long as our article content is not compromised and we don't start trolling contributors, we can hang process as far as I'm concerned. I moved this article because there was overwhelming support for the new title, not because it was moved out of process the first time. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Unanswered? ==
Let's not allow this to go un-answered, then: Under what scope do belong emails in which the question in fact was answered, at least to the best of SB's ability? I'm talking specifically about [[no loafing]] and [[old comics]] which didn't before seem to fit in any proposed or imagined scope, but I was instructed to hold my horses and not delete those until a re-name was decided upon. For reference's sake, the history including justifying comments is here: http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Twisting_emails&dir=prev&offset=20071209223947&limit=3&action=history As you can see, I've stated why the emails were in fact '''not un-answered'''.[[User:76.247.46.146|76.247.46.146]] 23:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:You can also see that neither of these emails are among the examples where Defender is calling attention to, and attempting a discussion of, [[#In addition|the scope of the page]]. Why not? Is it because an answer, or at least a genuine attempt at an answer, is present in each of those emails? [[User:76.247.46.146|76.247.46.146]] 23:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::No, it's because i didn't notice those, you're welcome to add them to that list. Personally, i think that the scope of this page should be only the times where strong bad '''specifically''' does the opposite of what the sender is asking, like [[big white face]] or [[12:00]]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::The Chort believes old comics is [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Derailed_Emails&diff=527541&oldid=526565 "the perfect example of a derailed email"]. I've grown neutral to its inclusion because it's too hard for me to figure out if "the KOT's always had a poopsmith" truly means "I don't know". [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:23, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I'd say it's as about as derailed as [[what I want]], which is still on the page. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Should I go put it back? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:29, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== What links here ==

Right now, Defender's userpage is the only What Links Here. Was that true earlier? Were links to this page removed? Is this ultimately intended to be a Category or anything like that? It's funny, none of the early contributors appear to have made any links to this page. But as long as we're discussing [[#In addition|the scope of the page]], let's look forward to what the endgame will be once the page is actually in shape. Tenderly, I remain, [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 01:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Lol, did not realize that. MEh, once we're done, we'll add links to the various pages involved {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::If derailed emails don't count as inside references, where ''should'' we put the links? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:57, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== Introduction ==

It needs some rewording. Strong Bad does not completely ignore the email. Each time it is somewhat, though not exactly, related to the email sent to him. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:I put "Disregards" as opposed to "Ignores". It makes all the difference to me, but if it seems wrong to anyone... :B '''→''' {{User:Peacey_P/sig}} 18:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Picture ==
[[Image:Choose Your Own Strong Bad Email Adventure.PNG|thumb]]
Would you like to see the book from [[1 step ahead]] used as a picture? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:I don't see an image there now, so I see no drawback to you putting in this image. '''Be bold''', you know? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 19:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Badathlon ==

I still think it counts. He does not do the stuff they requested. If I summarize it like this, the randomness is even more evident: "Throw The Cheat or beat up Homestar! No! We're going to make fun of the olympics tonight!" (I've just been bothered with the email's randomness for months now) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
:Makes sense to me. I added it. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 12:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
::You've got a good point, but throwing the Cheat and Greco-Roman Homestar crud-out-of-beating are events in the contest, so TECHNICALLY it's not derailed.

== New Commando Name - DONE! ==

It's been re-named, so, I'll do away with the <nowiki>{{rename}}</nowiki> template. Tenderly, I remain, [[User:Cableman Jorge|Cableman Jorge]] 04:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, the page was moved prematurely to "Derailed" before there was any real concensus. The rename discussion is still ongoing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:42, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
::It's just that people want to name it what ''they'' want to name it, and everyone has/had different ideas, none of which seemed to be agreed upon by any two people at that point - so I figured I'd ''be bold'' and just go with something that fit. Saves the trouble of never-ending discussion as opposed to action, which is what we're clearly seeing. *disappears forevers* -- [[User:208.60.233.111|208.60.233.111]] 03:17, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:::That's not cool. We edit this wiki as a team and try to find consensus before making changes like this. Moving pages while the discussion is still ongoing is counter-productive and will even make it harder to end the discussion properly.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Looks like it got moved to a crap name. -- [[Special:Contributions/208.60.233.31|208.60.233.31]] 04:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== [[Sick Day]]? ==

Should [[Sick Day]] be included here, even if it's a Short Toon and not technically a sbemail? Strong Bad does receive an email and it does get derailed, however. Thoughts? [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 11:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:In my opinion, no. Although it has an email in it, it's still not a SBemail itself, but a short. Strong Bad was too sick to answer the email, so he was unable to even think about derailing it. Plus it's not really derailed anyway because the short shows that Strong Bad does get sick sometimes. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:33, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

== old comics is not a derailed email. ==

Strong Bad answers the question--why the KoT has a Poopsmith--and elaborates on it by relating it to The Castlefunnies. "The King of Town's just always had a Poopsmith. Even way back when..." He doesn't do the complete opposite of the email's content or disregard it.
:Hmmmno. He doesn't say ''why'' the KoT has a Poopsmith. And then he talks about the castlefunnies, which explain nothing either. A typical ETIADD ("email taken in a different direction").{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:01, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

== Homestar Ruiner ==

Would [[Homestar Ruiner]] count as a derailed e-mail? Strong Bad set out to beat up Homestar as per an e-mail he received at the start of the game, but winds up impersonating him in a race, stealing from the King of Town on his behalf, and evicting a party from his house. --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 02:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
:Strong Bad declares it to be not-derailed (though he also declares it to be "the most direct and least convoluted way" possible). He considers tossing Homestar out the window as a beating. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 02:37, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
::Oh yeah, forgot about the resolution sequence. Still, this is possibly a case of taking such a different direction that it winds up at the same destination anyway. =) --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 03:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I thought this list was limited to emails... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:54, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Aye, that was one thing which occurred to me as well, which is why I posted it on the talk page first. That said, Homestar Ruiner, like [[Strong Badia the Free]] after it, are both presented as being what happens when Strong Bad tries to answer an e-mail, making it a sort of... interactive sbemail. ([[Baddest of the Bands]] is different, in that he's just trying to fix his Fun Machine.) --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 03:57, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

== Original ==

I thought this email was taken in a Different direction.I mean,strong bad is asked if his favorite character in a show is replaced with a new actor,but he talks about when they replace people.--[[User:Mariofan1000|Mariofan1000]] 21:16, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
:The way Strong Bad tells his story treats people from ''Homestar Runner'' as actors, so his response seems relevant. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 18:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

== Removed ==

These are some I removed and the reasons I removed them. If you disagree, comment here. I just wanted to explain myself instead of them just disappearing with no explanation.

[[superhero name]] — Stiny asks about Strong Bad's name, but Strong Bad instead makes fun of Stiny's.
:Strong Bad answers his question. He says he will change his name if Stiny would be his side kick.

[[gimmicks]] — Strong Bad is reminded of the times when he didn't need a gimmick to be funny... shortly before his computer explodes.
:Strong Bad is asked if he remember when he didn't need a gimmick. He says he does. He answered his question.

(By the way, I added [[original]] for the reasons stated above.)

::Can you use the discussion page? That is what it is here for. Don't just remove someone's posts without reasons.
:::Very simply, the emails you removed do the exact opposite of what was asked. That's the scope of this page. And i gave a reason in my revert summary. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:04, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
::::If you say so. I would hardly call saying "These were good and this is bad" stating your reasons. But, if you think they belong, I'll leave them. [[User:Philip8o|Philip8o]] 23:07, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

== Expatiation ==

I've taken the liberty of modifying the the definition with another thing Strong Bad frequently does. Often he ''does'' answer the question first briefly, but doesn't focus on it. For example, [[what i want]] he actually defines some of the things he wants "a catapult that launches balls of cobras, chainsaw car, a subscription to EGM2, a hot step-sister," then, on his own free will, decides to establish what he doesn't want.

== Different direction comes later? ==

What about e-mails where he does give a lengthy answer to the question, but then takes the opportunity to talk about something else that's related? For example, in [[fan club]] Strong Bad does answer the question about a sbemail fan club, and there's even an entire scene featuring said fan club, but then he goes on to talk about fan fiction which wasn't mentioned.
--[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 03:41, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

cheatday

ComputerBox — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:55:29 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Remarks */

{{sbenav|107}}
[[Image:sbemail107.PNG|thumb|"...Which says he's a 43-year old Scandinavian miner named Ilko Skevüld."]]

Someone asks what Strong Bad does on The Cheat's birthday: 'The Cheatday', while Coach Z and Bubs try to form a band.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Basement of the Brothers Strong]], [[The Field]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, July 5, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 2:33

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing "strongbad_email.exe"}'' Let's check a Strong Bad Email, you and me. Together. Like we used to. Like a family.

<blockquote class="short email">Dear Strong Bad, 
what did you do for the Cheat's 
birthday party</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{regarding the lack of signature}'' Aw, man! Another one of those "no-name brand" emails. Ah, let's see. Who are you from? You're from... ''{typing signature}'' Mike ''{pause}'' Control. ''{rapping but not typing}'' Here comes Mike, he's on the Mike... Control. Chiggity here comes Mike, he's on the Mike... Control. Miggity here comes Mike, he's on the Mike... Control.

''{Cut to behind Strong Bad at his computer, with Coach Z standing on the right side of the screen}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, that's a good rhyme! We should cut a demo!

'''BUBS:''' ''{enters}'' I could be your manager. I'll make millions!

'''STRONG BAD:''' You'll do no such thing! I don't need you fools. Now get outta here and let me answer Mike Controller's question.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{leaving}'' Yeah, we'll be better off without 'im.

'''BUBS:''' ''{leaving}'' I can play keytar!

''{Cut back to the Compy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Anyways, where were we? Oh yeah, Cheatday. ''{begins typing his response}'' So, nobody knows exactly when The Cheat's Cheatday is, so we celebrate it on the only day we know for sure it isn't. And that's the date of birth on his fake I.D.

''{A fake identification card appears, titled "SCANDINAVIAN FAKE I.D.," giving a name of Ilko Skevüld, date of birth of 4/18/1961, height of 6-9, weight of 293, and a type of "Miner." A profile view of a man whose hair vaguely resembles The Cheat with a swirly chin, an underbite and The Cheat-type eyes is featured. The card is signed with Ilko's name.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{still typing}'' Which says he's a 43-year-old Scandinavian miner named Ilko Skevüld. The festivities usually begin when—

''{Cut to Strong Bad sleeping on couch}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' —The Cheat wakes me up around the crack of noon, and I'll sing him the Date of Birth song.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{pokes Strong Bad and making The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{mumbling}'' Super...Super Contra...

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{pokes Strong Bad again and makes the same The Cheat noises}''

''{Strong Bad grunts and sits up. A bag of Potate chips sits atop his head. The Cheat grins and bats his eyes several times.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh. Right, right. ''{clears throat, sings}'' Sweet, sweet The Cheat, today is the day on your fake I.D.

''{The Potate chips bag falls off Strong Bad's head and lands out of sight. Bubs appears from behind the couch, playing a keytar.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now, get upstairs—unh! And fix me some breakfast.

''(Bubs breaks off into a solo. Strong Bad and The Cheat lean in angrily.)''

'''BUBS:''' Hey, that's a good jam! We should cut a—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Get outta here, kid!

''{Bubs hides behind the couch. Strong Bad affectionately pats The Cheat on the head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' After breakfast, in honor of Ilko's heritage, we'll usually play some mining games...

''{Cut to a scene in a field. Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat, all with helmets equipped with flashlights, stand around a pile of charcoal briquettes. Strong Bad holds a shovel, and The Cheat a pickaxe.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{continuing voiceover}'' ...like... Mining... and... Coal?

''{The Cheat half-heartedly plunks his pickaxe into the ground.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' I WIN!

''{We return to Strong Bad typing his response.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And then as a special treat, I let The Cheat answer some emails.

''{Strong Bad gets up, and The Cheat takes his place. He brings up an email.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{reading}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none">i want to know whos beter you or 
the cheat or strong mad? 
 
your friend 
ryan az</blockquote>

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{typing}'' Yeah, man. I'll gnaw your face off. - Teh C. ''{brings up new email, reads}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none">hey, sb! 
what's up? i was just wondering 
what you're mom and dad look like. 
 
please answer, 
bridget thornton, co</blockquote>

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{typing}'' Yeah, man. I'll gnaw your face off. - Teh C. ''{brings up new email, reads}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none">make more trogdor pleasepleaseplease 
 
p.s. pay out strong sad</blockquote>

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{typing}'' Yeah, man. I'll gnaw your face off. - Teh C.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{apparently recovering from laughing}'' O-ho, man! "I'll gnaw your face off"!

''{The Cheat grins}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Every year it gets funnier! Ohhh! ''{regains composure.}'' Happy The Cheat day, Ilko! May you never get the black lung.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* Click on the nameless e-mail to bring up a box of No-Name Brand E-mails.
*At the end, click on The Cheat to bring up Ilko's head moving from left to right, with his mouth opening and shutting, along with the rhythm of a train bell sound.
*Also at the end, you can click on the floppy disks on the left to bring up a demo tape:

:Coach Z & Bubs's Demo Tape
:"the two-o duo"

:''{singing}''
:'''COACH Z:''' Well we're good friends.
:'''BUBS:''' But don't you steal my napkins.
:'''COACH Z:''' I got fresh jams.
:'''BUBS:''' But I get all the royalties.
:'''COACH Z:''' ''{talking}'' I never agreed to that.

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*The name "Mike Control" is a form of "Mic Control", or "Microphone Control". The term is backcronym for MC, which was formally [[Wikipedia:Master of Ceremonies|Master of Ceremonies]]. "Microphone Controle" came to be first used in rap music during the 1970s and 1980s. Strong Bad's incantation is rhythmically similar to a section of the [[Wikipedia:Beastie Boys|Beastie Boys']] song "Jimmy James" from their ''Check Your Head'' album.
*[[Wikipedia:Pneumoconiosis#Black lung disease|Black lung disease]] is a lung condition caused by the inhalation of coal dust. It is also similar to the result of long-term smoking.
**It was revealed in [[Where's The Cheat?]] that The Cheat is a smoker.
*The [[Wikipedia:Keytar|Keytar]] ('''Key'''board + Gui'''tar''') is the name given to the musical keyboard synthesizer that is fashioned into the shape of a guitar. It is also known as a Gui-Board ('''Gui'''tar+key'''board''').
*[[Internet Slang|''Teh'']] is a common misspelling of ''the'', a mistake often made by typing too quickly. The mistake is common enough that most word processors have an automatic fix to spot instances of teh. The Compy 386 obviously doesn't have one of those. However, the misspelling itself is a staple of [[Wikipedia:Leetspeak|Leetspeak]].

=== Trivia ===
*Two of the three emails that The Cheat answers are in [[The Brothers Chaps]]' top five [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006#Pre-animation Process - 4:05 p.m.|commonly sent emails that will not be answered]] ([[Parents]] and [[Draw Trogdor Again]]).
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#bushido|bushido]]".

===Remarks===
*The [[Strong Bad's Room Main Page]] refers to The Cheat's Cheatday party as his "birthday party."
*There actually ''is'' a chance, albeit a very small one, that The Cheat's birthday was on April 18, 1961.
*Strong Bad said nobody knows when The Cheat's Cheatday is, though almost every character witnessed the event in [[flashback]]. (This is assuming that The Cheat was "born" from the egg. Technically, we don't know ''how'' he got inside it.)
**It could also be that Strong Bad made up the events of flashback, as suggested in those email's remarks.
*It's possible that Ilko being a "miner" is a play on the purpose of the fake ID (an attempt to persuade people that The Cheat ''isn't'' a [[wikipedia:Minor (law)|minor]]).
*You can still click on the Ilko Easter egg after you've clicked on the floppy disk Easter egg.
*The ID card says Ilko's birthday is April 18, yet this email was released on July 5, and it's not a retelling of prior events because the Cheat answers e-mails as part of the regular action.
*Even though the [[Potate]] bag appears to be sitting on top of Strong Bad's head (it doesn't seem to be attached or stuck in any way), it manages to not fall off, even though Strong Bad is moving his head a lot while singing.

===Inside References===
*The "[[Potate]]" bag is from [[morning routine]].
*This is another instance of Strong Bad's [[couch mumbling]].
*The custom of The Cheat answering emails is truly a special one indeed, since it is said that he never answers them in [[huttah!]].
*This is the first appearance of [[Bubs's Keytar]].

===Real-World References===
*The game [[Strong Bad]] says in his sleep is [[Wikipedia:Super Contra|''Super Contra'']], a notoriously difficult sidescrolling shooter arcade game. It was released on the [[Nintendo|NES]] under the title ''Super C''.
*The ringing Ilko head may be a reference to Mr. Machine, a popular toy made by Ideal Toy Corp. in 1960. Mr. Machine was a wind up 'man' who would walk, open, and close his mouth while a bell rung in his stomach.
*The Ilko head may also be a reference to an Easter egg in the Nintendo 64 game Cruisin' USA. A player had to achieve a "Hot Time" on any stage. After entering their initials, the player would scroll down to the bottom of the screen, then hold Left on the analog stick for about 35 seconds. A head of similar characteristics would roll across the conveyer belt. The ringing noise heard in this toon is the same as the ringing noise made by the rollers on the conveyor belt.

===Fast Forward===
*''Cheatday'' as opposed to ''birthday'' is a practice later used with [[Trogdor]]'s [[Happy Trogday|Trogday]]. Strong Bad also mentions "Flashday" in [[Flash's 10th Birthday]].
*In [[narrator]], Bubs and Coach Z again argue about a napkin.
*A keytar is later seen in [[coloring]].
*Strong Bad wears a mining helmet again in [[Ever and More!]].
*The Two-o Duo later show up for a "once-in-a-lifetime reunion performance" in [[Baddest of the Bands]].

==DVD Version==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Marzipan]])

'''MIKE:''' Hey, Marzipan.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hi, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' It's just the two of us doing the commentary on this email here.

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's right.

'''MIKE:''' Matt's on the phone.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I think he's in the bathroom.

'''MIKE:''' Ohhhh. So, uh, what the— have you seen this email?

'''MARZIPAN:''' No, I try not to watch the emails.

'''MIKE:''' Really?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I get upset by them.

'''MIKE:''' Why?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Because...I don't know. I just— they make me sad.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Sometimes.

'''MIKE:''' Sometimes.

'''MARZIPAN:''' What's this one about, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' It's about The Cheat's birthday.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Really? What day is his birthday?

'''MIKE:''' Well, you'll find out if you watch. Here, he tells you right here.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Do they have a party?

'''MIKE:''' Listen. Nobody knows when it is.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I once had a boyfriend who had a hairdo like that.

'''MIKE:''' Really? Was his name Ilko?

'''MARZIPAN:''' It was.

'''MIKE:''' Wow. You dated Ilko Skevüld?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I did. But don't tell anybody that's how we got the I.D.

'''MIKE:''' Ohhhhhh. Wow.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Interesting. You helped The Cheat get a fake I.D.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Cool.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' Sweet, sweet, The Cheat. ''{stops singing}'' I actually wrote that song.

'''MIKE:''' Really?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah. ''{sings}'' Breakfast.

'''MIKE:''' Good job ''{laughs}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Thanks!

'''MIKE:''' Whatchu been up to today?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, I've been out, um, riding. Riding my mule.

'''MIKE:''' You have a mule?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I do. I believe in mule riding. I think that they are very underappreciated. I like their ears a lot.

'''MIKE:''' Really? What's your mule's name?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Buttercup.

'''MIKE:''' "Buttercup The Mule", eh?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yes.

'''MIKE:''' Wow. I didn't realize mules were good for riding. You do any tricks on it or anything?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I can do, um, a "standing on the back" trick.

'''MIKE:''' Really?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yes.

'''MIKE:''' Wow.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It's pretty hard. I have to do it on one leg.

'''MIKE:''' You have a leg?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I have one.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Look at The Cheat's gold tooth.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Where did he get that?

'''MIKE:''' I don't know. Maybe you should email Strong Bad and ask him someday.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Maybe.

== External Links ==
{{sbemailextlinks|107|243}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Holiday Toons]][[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

Talk:Envelope Paper

ComputerBox — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:59:05 GMT

ComputerBox: /**/Jumping the gun

==Better name?==
Judging by previous names for SB's Papers, shouldn't we call it Newer Paper, or New New Paper? [[USER:Sbemail Checker Dan]]
:First of all, be aware that this character has no official name. When something like this happens, we usually pick a name that describes the character in such a way that everyone that reads it thinks "Ohhhh, THAT character!" A good example is [[Visor Robot]], which we called because it was a robot with a visor. "New Paper" is called "New Paper" because that's what Strong Bad called it in [[the paper]]. Someone chose the name "Letter Paper" for this one because it looks like a letter. If we called it "Newer Paper" or "New New Paper", there's a risk of confusion with [[New Paper]] (and if Strong Bad goes through several papers over the coming weeks, things would get a bit silly: [[New New New New Paper]] anyone?). I say '''stick with Letter Paper''' for now until an official name is given (although it should really be called envelope paper...). {{User:The Chort/sig}} 14:46, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
::OH! I get it. [[USER:Sbemail Checker Dan]]
:::Yeah, i was actually thinking it's an interdepartmental envelope, not a letter. Also, when i first saw this page title, or indeed, when i'd see a page titled "Envelope Paper" i'd think it was about the kind of paper used to make letters or envelopes. I can't really think of any way to fix that though. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
::::It isn't even really a paper. It's just an envelope with "Click HERE to email strong bad" written on it. But I have a feeling we're going to keep the word "paper" in the name one way or the other. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 14:55, 13 July 2009 (UTC) (This was written before the move)
:::::How about [[Inter-Department Envelope]]. I know we're reaching for a name with "Paper" in it, but this is only paper in the sense that envelopes are typically made of paper. It doesn't fit the narrower definition of paper. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:35, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

== Jumping the gun ==

Aren't we jumping the gun a bit on this? We can't be sure that this is the real replacement for the New Paper, since this could (and I think it's somewhat implied that it is, since he's borrowing his work computer rather than getting a new one) just be a transition e-mail between the Lappy and whatever comes next, and thus this would just be a one-off thing to fit with the work computer theme. --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 15:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Donut Unto Others

ComputerBox — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:46:03 GMT

ComputerBox: /**/From Usa, Homemadé

==Color Chameleon==
Is it really necessary to note that his is the first time we see Bub's face a different color? i mean, we don't see any other characters' faces a different colour EVER, so is thiss really note-worthy? {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 14:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:I don't really think it is noteworthy either. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 18:34, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
::To be fair we did see the KOT's face turn green in Theme Song Video [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 14:58, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, but we don't note that on the article. As a general rule of thumb, fun facts which involve the word "first" are generally not used, especially if the word "first" could easily be replaced with the word "only". {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:04, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
::::True, true. [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 15:10, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
And The Cheat turned green when he got sick in the dryer in [[lady fan]]. - [[User: WraythSkitzofrenik|The Wrayth is OUT!]]
: Also, the KOT in [[Some Stupid Turkey]], Homestar in [[Halloween Fairstival]] holding his breath, and many Halloween costumes. Nothing I'd call a running gag though. [[User:TimMierz|TimMierz]] 17:59, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

==Bubs Hums==
I think that Bubs is actually humming the villain's theme from Inspector Gadget. That would bookend with Homestar humming the main theme from the show.
:It was clearly Bubs that was humming at the end. He was the one sneaking away, and the voice sounded much more Bubs-like than Homestar-like. [[Special:Contributions/129.64.175.10|129.64.175.10]] 17:19, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
::The song Bubs was humming at the end is a standard "sneaking" song. It is not specific to anything in particular. Unfortunately, I haven't had much luck finding a link or title to the song (the only lead is "Mysterioso Pizzicato", as given in TV Tropes's "Standard Snippet" page, but I can't find a tune to go with that title.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:45, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
::Found it! [http://www.musipedia.org/tmp/MPUbycIp.mid Here] is a link to the MIDI file, but the link to the page that gives the title has a bracket and I don't know the workaround for that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:49, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
::::That link has become dead.. [http://www.musipedia.org/search.html?&L=&no_cache=1&tx_mpsearch_pi1%5Bpc%5D=UUUDDDDDRRRRRUUDDDDRRRRRUDDUUD&tx_mpsearch_pi1%5Bsubmit_button%5D=Search here's one] that should work. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 11:07, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Excellent find. That's been bugging me all day, looking for the same thing. -- 17:52, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Both this and the military drum riff Bubs hums on his way back to his post are references to old cartoons. I don't remember which toon it was, but when he storms off it was a reference to Bugs Bunny, who was temporarily foiled, responded with "Of course you know, this means war" and stomped off in the same posture to the tune of the drum thing. [[User:Wear a Bikini|Wear a Bikini]] 18:04, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, it's stock music. But the origin of the song he hums at the end (not the drum beat) is "Mysterioso Pizzicato". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:08, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::I think that both Bubs' hum and Homestar's hum (when he's swabbing) have been used in Scooby Doo. -- 22:10, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

To me, Bubs' "drum" sound as he's marching to his stand strongly resembles the actual drum beat played in [[isp]] when Strong Bad is marching to his hand. The style between the scenes is also pretty similar - a silhouetted character marching to Bubs' stand from the left on a solidly shaded background. Can someone else corroborate my story? [[User:TimMierz|TimMierz]] 01:05, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I think this is the "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-WtpRb82v0 Fighting a Boss]" music from Wizards and Warriors on the NES. --[[User:Solcott|Solcott]] 14:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
:NM, I didn't click the links above to listen to the MIDI :-) --[[User:Solcott|Solcott]] 15:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

== Pain ==

Maybe someone should make a page about injuries to various characters. I'm sure we could fill it up. I'll even do it, if you think it would be worthwhile. {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 15:46, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah! That sounds Great! --[[Image:stinkogame-false capsule.gif|20px]][[User:PartyBrd20X6|PartyBrd20X6]][[Image:stinkogame-false capsule.gif|20px]] 20:30, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

== hammerspace ==

Yeah, the KOT appears and disapears from hammerspace, but strong bad doesn't pull the F from it. He gets it off of the clipboard. {{unsigned|71.60.212.62|15:40, 6 April 2009}}
:Strong Bad is holding the clipboard in his left hand. he pulls the F paper out of hammerspace with his right hand, nowhere near the clipboard. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 21:29, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:I wouldn't say that the KoT comes from hammerspace, he just teleported.
::Agreed, I wouldn't consider appearing in a cloud of smoke to be an instance of hammerspace.--[[Special:Contributions/76.248.84.243|76.248.84.243]] 23:59, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree. It's like a ninja teleport {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 10:31, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
::Definitely not hammerspace for KoT.([[Special:Contributions/146.122.71.68|146.122.71.68]] 12:27, 7 April 2009 (UTC))

== Grit? ==

I don't hear "great gumption" during the marketing bombardament. I hear "I've got grit, gumption, and etc..." - [[User: WraythSkitzofrenik|The Wrayth]]

== Homestar and Marzipan Breaking Up ==

This is the umpteenth time there's been a joke about Homestar and Marzipan's on-again, off-again relationship. Who here feels that there should be an article on their many breakups? - [[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 2:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
:I think the page [[Homestar Runner and Marzipan's Relationship]] will do fine for now. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 02:47, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
::Ah. I didn't even think to look there. Nevermind then. - [[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 2:57, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

== Is there a bit of an Echo here? ==
Did anyone else realise the "1 flavor, over 100 diffent names for it." slightly echos [[Blubb-O's Commercial]] With the same sammich havin a buch of diffent names.

==Golden Rule==
I'm pretty sure that the title of this toon is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Ethic of reciprocity|the Golden Rule]]: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Does this deserve a place in the article, under the "Real-World References" or something? [[Special:Contributions/64.183.147.250|64.183.147.250]]

== From Usa, Homemadé ==

Potential reference: When I saw the part about donuts made in a country called Homemadé so Bubs could put "homemade" on the box, I thought of the urban legend that Japan had renamed a city to Usa so they could put "Made In USA" on packages of things made there. --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 21:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Talk:TROGDOR!

ComputerBox — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:57:39 GMT

ComputerBox: /**/Wii version mirror doesn't work on the Wii

{{featuredarticle}}
== after level 27? ==
The quotes for cut scenes "after level 27" don't look kosher to me. How could he say "Smote that Kerrek" if the arcade game predated the Kerrek Email? 
[[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 21:09, 25 Sep 2004 (MST)
:I'm not seeing anything that says the Trogdor game was created before the interview email. Dragon and Interview were only a month apart. Even so, TBC could still have added it in later. "Smote that Kerreck" is plainly there, just fast forward a little. He's also listed in the credits when you beat the game.
[[User:The Brothers E|The Brothers E]]
::The arcade game was first seen between SBEmails 66 and 67. Interview was number 62. The game does not precede Kerrek's e-mail. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

Wowzers, ok. So, how does one "Fast forward"? is this a right-click-menu flash "forward" command or some other form of strangeness? :) Thanks! 
[[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 12:11, 26 Sep 2004 (MST)

Please, anyone know how to fast-foward??? I'm desperate, and everyone's always talking about it. Tell me!!!

== Fast-fowarding, *URGENT* ==

PPLLEEAASSEE!!! Won't somebody tell me how to fast-foward past level 27?!!? The whole game's a joke until you get there; it's IMPOSSIBLE!!! Please, anybody, notice this message board, and tell me how to FF past that one level. Thank you so much...I would be immensely obliged! -Justin Hack 10/09/04

As far as I know, any program that lets you fast forward won't let you actually play the levels. That said, they recently fixed level 27 (around Valentine's Day '05), so it is now beatable.

== Not very urgent ==

I've tried to get past level 27 quites a few times and, while I don't know how urgent it is, I'm really trying to figure out to see the rest of the game too. Is there a code of some sort, or how does this "fastforwarding" thing work? -ShadowP13

==Reply for everyone concerned about anything post-level 27==
Please see [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1134 this forum thread] for information regarding the findings in this article.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:34, 12 Nov 2004 (MST)

== OLD (original) version of Trogdor - anybody, anybody? ==

Does anyone have an archived version of the ORIGINAL Trogdor game as it was posted on the website the week the guys were "In Da Basement"? This original version lacked the impossible level 27, but it also lacked all cartoons post-level-20. I'm just curious if a copy's sitting out there somewhere...

[On another note, I'm pretty sure I've visited multiple treasure huts per game, contrary to what I've read on this website.]

:I don't know where you might find the original version, but you might start by looking around some of the various mirror sites (see the [[Links]] page). As for the treasure huts, you can visit more than one per game, but only once the levels start to repeat. --[[User:68.12.101.60|68.12.101.60]] 08:47, 20 Feb 2005 (MST)

What is this about levels repeating? When does that happen?[[User:74.73.78.47|74.73.78.47]] 18:23, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

== Check this out Chief!! Possible inspiration!! ==

http://www.abandonia.com/games/624/Aargh.htm

Look at this!
This is a game where you play as a badly-drawn giant lizard and terrorize PEASENTS! IN THATCHED HUTS!!!
It's not Trogdor... it's OLDER than Trogdor... but it looks so similar!!! Could it be related - anon

:I don't see why it couldn't have been inspiration. It's related to Rampage, which the Chaps are known to like and have parodied on the site. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:06, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==What? No heading?==

Wish I could burninate the knights.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 23:15, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== Haven't heard some of the quotes ==

I haven't heard some of the Strong Bad quotes mentioned. I've played A LOT, too. In fact I played to level 100 just to see the animation, and I never heard the following quotes:

: {laughing} "He's on fire! Look at 'em burning!"

: STRONG BAD: "Beat that score, Strong Sad!" STRONG SAD: "I don't even want to play that game."

Could they only have been in the old game? -[[User:xzqx|Anne]]

I just heard the Strong Sad one. -[[User:Aaronak|Aaronak]] 23:13, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

:Happened to me too. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 01:21, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

== Pause glitch ==

I just ran into this glitch, so apparently it hasn't been fixed. [[User:24.13.252.150|24.13.252.150]] 08:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

If it's a glitch... Otherwise, you could click on the Flash file/game and try pressing the spacebar. --[[User:68.145.103.189|68.145.103.189]] 01:21, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

== Paused Archers ==
I didn't see anything here about the trick where you freeze the archers by pausing when they're on the screen.
:Ah, I was using an old version, I think. Nevermind.

== It's high time we did this. ==

I've just played a good game of Trogdor (Level 11! New record! WHOO!) and I think we should add something to the wiki: Trogdor Level Guide. Who's with me? --[[User:Color Printer|Color]] [[User talk:Color Printer|Printer]] 23:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
:Well, what would we put in it? The movements of the peasants and enemies are random, so we couldn't put anything definite, other than "Avoid the enemies, stomp the peasants, burninate the cottages". {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 23:12, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
::No, like layouts and hints. --[[User:Color Printer|Color]] [[User talk:Color Printer|Printer]] 23:15, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

== holding down the "G" ==

I've attempted this to no avail. Am I misunderstanding what "title page" means? Does this only work on certain browsers? (I'm using Firefox) is it holding down lower-case g? shift+g? help! (wants those 30 starting mans bad!)
: It means the letter "G" in the word "TROGDOR!" in the title. Not the "G" on your keyboard. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== No "B" on Wii ==

From frame 193: <tt>contraArrayKey = newArray (38, 38, 40, 40, 37, 39, 37, 39, 66, 65)</tt>. The 66 value is not defined in sprite 387 like the rest of the keys, so therefore, the B value cannot be entered on a Wii. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 08:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
: I'd test, but I never downloaded the Wii's internet browser... The Wii's controller DOES have a B button, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
: That said, it DOES work if you play the Wii version through Internet Explorer on an actual computer, but come to think of it, "Start" is pointing at the screen and presisng the Wii's "A" button... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
: But then again: ''If playing on a PC, the "A" key now functions as the pause button.'' Since 1 is the Pause button according to the title screen... ah, screw it. Leave it to someone who actually bothered to download the browser to test... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:50, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
: It is very likely that the Brothers Chaps were already aware of this little shortcoming. They removed the referrence to the "Secret Code?" on the Hints Page that pops up when you hold the A button (mouse button) on the letter G. It is also worthy of note that the Treasure Huts do still exist, but when I entered one when I played the game, I couldn't move. --[[User:President Cold One|President Cold One]] 10:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
::The code should go something like: UUDDLRLR''(something)''1 if entered on the Wii. The complete button map looks something like this (according to [http://livedocs.adobe.com/flash/mx2004/main_7_2/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=Flash_MX_2004&file=00001113.html Adobe] and the decompiled ActionScript): --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 12:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width=50% | Wii-mote Button !! width=50% | PC Key
|-
| valign="top" |
*Left
*Up
*Right
*Down
*1
*2
*A
*B
*+
*-
*Power and HOME are not modified
| valign="top" |
*Left
*Up
*Right
*Down
*A
*S
*D (I don't quite see how this one works, but oh well)
*Space
*+/=
*-/_
*Not applicable.
|}

== Invincibility Disparity ==
Somewhere on this page (and possibly the [[Peasant's Quest]] one, too), it points out Trogdor's non-indestructibility in this game. Would it be worth noting the theory that this game's Trogdor is younger than the PQ one? [[User:Evil Egg|Evil Egg]] 13:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:No, speculation is never worth pointing out. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

==It sounds vs. I sound==
Okay, we've got conflicting information on this page. Does Strong Bad say, "It sounds so... realistic" or "I sound so... realistic" ? I suspect he's saying "it sounds" based on context, but I don't have the means to find out. Also, can anyone point me to some instructions on how to get the means to find out? I certainly ain't gonna attempt to play through the game anymore. I lost so many mans on lev 26 that I couldn't survive past lev 29. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 17:24, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
:Turning to our friend Flash Decompiler for this particular problem, I can say with certainty that it's "I sound". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

== And in the night, there is time for ... Trogdor! ==

Never mind, didn't look closely enough at the article. [[User: Poopskin/about|Poopskin, Needlessly creepy x18™]] 13:16, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

== Miirror, anyone? ==

I still have the flash file for the wii version of TROGDOR! I was wondering, to which HRWiki staff member I have to send the .swf file, so it can be mirrored? --{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 07:54, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'd suggest you send it to either [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] or [[User:Tom|Tom]]. Either of them would be both happy to receive it and able to do something with it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 07:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

== Dubious Fact ==

*If the player gets "Sworded" and "Arrowed" at the same time, the [[portmanteau]] "Swarrowed!" will appear on the screen. To acheive this is kind of a pointless challenge, because it is very hard to accomplish, and all it really "earns" you is one less life.
Okay, i tried 10 games in a row to do this, and i either got one or the other. I don't think this is possible. On top of that, the part about "it's not worth trying" kinda makes me suspect that it's not true, as it discourages people from verifying it. Can someone please decompile the flash to verify this? also, if it IS true, a screenshot would be sweet. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
:I've decompiled the Flash file before, and don't recall anything like that. I can give it another check-through real quick to be sure, if anyone wants, but I'm already sure it'll return a negative result. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:35, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::I was intriguèd by the thought, so I checked out the Flash file. No dice.. just "Arrowed!" and "Sworded!" {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=TROGDOR%21&diff=567167&oldid=554443 Silly IP}}, sending us on a wild goose chase. Or maybe he/she was just hallucinating. =] {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

== SWORDTALITY! ==

Am I the only one who thinks that the blood-dripping "sworded" and "arrowed" text is a reference to Mortal Kombat games where the "fatality" text has a similar effect? [[User:Ryu 20X6|-=-=-RYU-=-=-20X6-=-=-]] 01:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

== Game Over? ==

When you beat a level before a scene, it will flash to the game over screen for a brief period then go to the scene. Would you consider that a glitch? --[[User:Pretztailfan95|Pretztailfan95]] 17:05, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== [[8-Bit Is Enough]] ==

Should we mention the LARGE role this game has in [[8-Bit Is Enough]] on this page? I think we should. Who agrees? -[[User:Tizye96|Tizye96]]

== Wii version mirror doesn't work on the Wii ==

I'd just like to note that the mirror for the Wii version of the game doesn't work on an actual Wii... the D-pad just scrolls the screen around instead of controlling Trogdor. It's not like it matters though, since the Wii supports keyboards now so you can just use one of those...

Talk:email thunder

ComputerBox — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:15:27 GMT

ComputerBox: /**/Homestar's personal favorites

== Poopsmith Lyrics? ==
:The unintelligible part of the transcript as of 7:35 AM is "The thought of all those emails (makes me weaaaak)."
:: I think its "Weep" because it's a verb and strong bad interruption "PUKE" would make better sense. (I don't know how to "weak") [[User:Javaguy78|Javaguy78]] 14:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::If you listen to the mp3 at the end, you can tell that it is "weak". And "weak" is not a verb, its an adjective. You don't "weak" you "be weak" -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]]
::::Wow, the battle of dumb-butts. Clearly "I don't know how to 'weak'" was his way of saying that he knows it's not a verb and hence doesn't think it fits in that context (which albeit an adjective also does). [[Special:Contributions/75.157.4.36|75.157.4.36]] 17:43, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Thank you 75.157.4.36... I guess sarcasm doesn't work too well online... Anywho, listened to the mp3 and it could go either "Weep" or "Weak", so I guess it's up to you to decide. Maybe TMBG are the only ones who know for sure [[User:Javaguy78|Javaguy78]] 18:55, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::Taking horse tranquilizers makes me weak. I thought it was weak too, and I think it makes sense - {{User:Wecannotbesaved/sig}} 19:37, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Listen to the mp3 easter egg, guys. It as a a '''''very''''' clearly pronounced WEA'''K'''. {{User:Supuhstar}} 19:52, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

=== They might be giants? ===

At least one youtuber ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lwFy6MYP3Q ) thinks that the poopsmith's song was by they might be giants, can someone confirm/deny this? --The accountless avenger
:I'm pretty sure we can take the Brothers Chaps' word as truth when they say it's performed by They Might Be Giants. This band has done more than one song for homestarrunner.com. --[[User:DENNIS|DENNIS]] 20:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::It probably wasn't one of the Brothers Chap, as the Poopsmith's voice was heard in [[different town]] and [[senior prom]], and both times, he had a significantly lower voice.{{User:That_game_dude386/sig}} 21:35, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Sorry; I wasn't thinking. John Linnell was the voice of The Poopsmith, as stated in the article. --{{User:DENNIS/sig}} 21:57, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== HREmails ==
Check out http://www.homestarrunner.com/hremail49.html and http://www.homestarrunner.com/hremail24.html

:Whaaaa.... WHERE'D YOU GET THOSE?!?!?!? -[[Special:Contributions/207.206.238.188|207.206.238.188]]
::Ah-hah, I get it. One comes from the email, and the other comes from the first one. Haha. --{{User:Color Printer/sig}} 13:06, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::: Oh, right. "What do you ladies think this is, HREmail 24?" Ha. -[[Special:Contributions/207.206.238.188|207.206.238.188]]
::::Added to the EasterEggs Section. [[User:Javaguy78|Javaguy78]] 14:06, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Added them to the "Secret Pages" section too... but if some one knows how to upload screenshots, they need them [[Secret_Pages|here]] [[User:Javaguy78|Javaguy78]] 14:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== Last? ==

Did you guys think this is the last sbemail?

argh. is homestarrunner broken, guys? none of the pages are getting past the loading screen for me...:( [[Special:Contributions/76.114.174.169|76.114.174.169]] 14:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

:Same here... Maybe someone should put up a mirror of the episode for us lesser mortals. --The accountless avenger.

::me to -Dr. savage but im to lazy to log on
but... BUT I DON'T WANT HREMAILS!!! I WANT SBEMAILS!!!!! {{User:Haldo/sig}}

: #1 this is forum talk #2 no this will not be the last one -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]]
::How does thou knowest thy beloved sbemails shall not become hremails? --[[User:DENNIS|DENNIS]] 20:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== Sending an email to DJmankiewicz ==

When you actually send an email to "Homestar" (DJmankiewicz@homestarrunner.com), you get this e-mail back instantly.

Subject: My Inbox Runneth Ova!
Oh, hello everyone! For some unknown reason I'm getting this big cavalcanche of emails all of the sudden. They're filling up the basement and I'm running out of paper towels! Just sit tight and hremails will be back to normal before you know it. And thanks again to everyone who participated in Bacon Pretend Week! Ron Staple you are a GENIUS!

Okay bye,
Homestar Runner

I didn't know if or where this should be mentioned on the wiki, so there it is. --[[Special:Contributions/139.225.204.42|139.225.204.42]] 15:06, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:I added it to [[Contacts]]. That place at least needed the address listed, and I figured it'd fit there best. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 17:37, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

==Goof==
The "goof" for the 'ghosts' rollover has been fixed, but I'm too paranoid about the rules here to fix the article myself.--[[User:Flytape8490|Flytape8490]] 17:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== Hooyah? ==

Strong Bad's exclamation is spelled about ten different ways in the transcription. Perhaps we should pick one spelling and stick to it? I don't know which one to use, though. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 18:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:What exclamation do you mean? --[[User:DENNIS|DENNIS]] 20:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::"Hooyah", of course. Or B'oyah. Or Whooyaha. Or however many other times it was spelled. I'm assuming it's the same phrase each time. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 22:02, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Where are you seeing this?--{{User:DENNIS/sig}} 22:40, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== Awwww ==

I wanted the Lappy to not make it out alive... and for the Zappy to take its place! {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}
:First, this comment is more appropriate for the forum. Also, it's only been about a year since [[accent]], not five. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::Who says that it has to be exactly five years? Strong Sad said the fast-forward was IN five years. That doesn't mean that the new computer can't happen 4 years before that clip. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}

== GILTH ==

im sorry i cant spell gilth but every time i go to the sbemail it just stops at when strong bad is pouring moutain folder shold we put it in the article?
:There was a server error at homestarrunner.com, which has since been fixed. If you need anymore help, please be sure to tell me on my talk page. --{{User:DENNIS/sig}} 22:38, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== Thunder ==

Shouldnt the name be Thunder
:It's called "email thunder" on the email list. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== MP3 no worky ==

Downloaded MP3 with Vista, no sound. File plays but is silent. Ideas? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:1. Make sure your speakers are plugged in and on.
:2. Make sure the system volume is on. Sometimes the Wave volume is muted. Go into the advanced volume window and unmute Wave sound.
:If you need any more help, tell me on my talk page. --{{User:DENNIS/sig}} 22:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== 404'd ==

When I go to http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemailtwohundred.html, it comes up as a 404'd. The only way I've been able to watch the dang thing is if I go to the flash file. I'm not the only one with this problem. What up? {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}
:It works fine here, so the most likely thing is a problem with a server between you and theirs. Clear your cache, reboot, and try again. It may just be a waiting thing. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:22, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::I did a hard reload while on the page and it's fine now. Thanks! (can't believe I didn't think to do that before...) {{User:Superfield Credit Union/sig}}

== Homestar's personal favorites ==

So does anyone else think the scene with Homestar flashing back to previous e-mails was a reference to [[personal favorites]]? Like that one, it starts with two real e-mails then he starts making things up... -[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 00:15, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Cheerleader

ComputerBox — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:29:54 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Hurt and/or Killed by */

[[Image:tgs-cheer.PNG|thumb|right|220px|Cheer on Cheerleader]]
[[Image:Kiddie_Cheerleader.PNG|thumb|right|220px|Teeny Tiny Cheerleader (not really)]]
[[Image:Cheerleader_color.png|thumb|right|220px|Colorized Cheerleader!]]

==Biography==

'''Cheerleader''' is the ''de facto'' leader of the [[Teen Girl Squad]] whose "real" name is either Virginia, Joy, or Jennifer. She, like the others, represents a stereotype of a teenage girl; she obsesses about her appearance (specifically fashion) and focuses her energy on dating older or more popular boys.

Cheerleader aptly leads the Teen Girl Squad with her shrill and domineering manner. While the other girls usually follow her without question, they consider her leadership oppressive. After her demise shortly into [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9]], the rest of the squad was overjoyed and cheered, "We're free! The tyranny is over!", as they were then able to follow their own pursuits, even though they were killed later in the issue and ended up as Cheerleader's servants once more, this time as ghosts.

Cheerleader's trademark is her dress, which sports a different saying in every episode. Most sayings indicate either her puerile nature ("li'l brat"), vanity ("2 cute"), or her never ending desire for boys ("boy monger"). Many of them contain phrases which are meant to have overtones of these traits, but are [[Deliberately Poor English|barely intelligible]] (such as "Baby Daddy"). She also has blonde hair, which she wears in pigtails.

Like the rest of the squad, Cheerleader often meets a gruesome or unexpected end. She does not always die, however: she was the sole surviving member in the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1|first issue]] and was nearly the sole survivor of [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]], but was apparently eaten "off camera" by [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#A Shark|the shark]] at the end of the toon.

Despite her "boy mongering", Cheerleader has, as of yet, failed to successfully date anyone, with the exception of going to the Friday night dance with [[Eh! Steve!]] in [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. When she tried to ask [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Quarterman|Quarterman]] out in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]], she was promptly CEREBELLUM'D. In [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]], she was SAILING MISHAP'D after she yelled at the olda boys for correctly thinking she was the same age as [[So and So]]. The trend continues in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]], where her attempts to flirt with a trio of Scots only results in her being CABER-TOSS'D to her death. However, in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12]], she goes on a mission to get "Valentimes Day" cards from as many different boys as she can and does, in fact, receive them, even if by force. She only values them for the "[[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Mindy|Mindy]] cred", as she immediately dispenses of each boy after getting his card.

In issue 5, when she and So and So were trying to get the "Olda boys" to date them, So and So said they were in 8th grade. If this is accepted as accurate, she can be considered about 14 years old.

Cheerleader's mouth has a tendency to curl to impossible lengths. One such occasion was in Issue 10, upon hearing that [[The Ugly One]] was hosting a boy/girl party. This also happened when she was given a Valentimes Day card from [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Patchbeard|Patchbeard]] in Issue 12.

===Pre-K Version===

In contrast, her pre-K counterpart in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|Teeny Tiny Girl Squad]] was the chubby, foodaholic "Fattycakes". She is seen eating a candy bar that was "dipped in salt".

==Title Card Descriptions==
* hair products! ([[TV Time Toons Menu]])
* cheer! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]])
* growth spurt! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 2]])
* boy crazy! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]])
* cool parents! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]])
* two piece! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]])
* wants a pony ([[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]])
* fattycakes! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]])
* top 40 hits! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]])
* backyard pool! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9]])
* groovy grapefruit pink ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]])
* cell phone! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]])
* red undies! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12]])
* $15/hour ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13]])
* most likely to! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 14]])

==Text on Shirts==
* diva ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] and [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]])
* li'l brat ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 2]])
* huge bat ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 2]])
* princess ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]])
* boys please ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]])
* purty ([[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]])
* coolier than thou ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]])
* suga sweet ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]])
* x-girl ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]])
* sperld rott'n ([[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]])
* sell fish ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9]])
* deady's girl ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9]])
* baby daddy ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]])
* hot v2.0 ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]])
* who ♥ed? ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12]])
* ms. thang ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13]])
* the future ms. thang ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13]])
* cheer lee duh ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 14]])
* growlback's phys. ed. ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 14]])
* kiss boys (Easter egg in [[theme park]])
* de (Easter egg in [[death metal]])
* poi fect ([[love poems]])
* solid gold (Teen Girl Squad Menu)
* party thyme (Teen Girl Squad Menu)
* hott type! (Teen Girl Squad Menu)
* rich grrl (Teen Girl Squad Menu)
* 2 cool 4 u (Teen Girl Squad Menu)
* boy monger (Teen Girl Squad Menu)
* 2 cute (Teen Girl Squad Menu)

==Hurt and/or Killed by==
*Being grasped by [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#The Vulture and the Bat|a bat]] ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 2]])
*[[Arrow'd Guy|The Arrow'd Guy's]] [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Giant Brain Mech|Giant Brain Mech]] ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]])
*Struck by the S. S. Inevitable ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]])
*Being squished by a [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Fat Man|fat man]] ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]])
*Falling into the Arrow'd Guy's mouth ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]])
*Being chomped on by [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#A Shark|a shark]] (offscreen) ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]])
*Being run over by [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Learner's Permit Girl|Learner's Permit Girl]] ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9]])
*Being caber-tossed by the [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Scotsmen|Scotsmen]] ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]])
*Having her body parts rearranged ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]]) (Easter Egg)
*A "Blinding voip" from [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Science Fiction Greg|Science Fiction Greg's]] bare chest ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]])
*Being skewered by [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#The USB Dongle Goblin|The USB Dongle Goblin]] ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12]])
*Crushed by a plunger wielded by a French toilet ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13]])
*Getting dirty laundry dumped all over her ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 14]])
*Being turned to stone by a Medusa through a camera (Best death in [[Homestar Ruiner Teen Girl Squad]])

==Filmography==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[comic]]
*[[:Category:Cheerleader Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

==Quotes of the Week==

{{qotwstart|a=QW-2008-05-09}}
*{{qotw|"As I was saying, Vamlumtimes Day is serious times. If I don't get cards from enough boys, I could lose all my Mindy cred!"|[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12]]|Mirror:cheer_vamlum.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"2-3-4. What time is it? It's Valentimes. What time is it? It's Valentimes. What we gone get? Several boys! How we gonna get em? Uh...um...er..."|[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12]]|Mirror:valentimes.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I come for the wuggas, but stay for the jiggy juggas."|[[death metal]] Easter egg|Mirror:cheer jiggyjuggas.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Ooncha! Ooncha! One-two-three-cha! We're Kissyboots and it's nice to meetcha! Ooncha! Ooncha! One-two-three-cha! Gonna get a breadtangle of [[pizza]]!"|[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]|Mirror:ooncha all.mp3}}
|}

{{Teen Girl Squad}}

[[Category:Teen Girl Squad Characters]]

Homestar Ruiner

ComputerBox — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 03:09:57 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Inside References */

{{cleanup}}
[[Image:HomestarRuinerLogo.png|thumb|The logo of Homestar Ruiner]]
[[Image:SBCG4AP gameplay Strong Bad's Basement.png|thumb|"Actually, I don't think it's your face you should be worried about showing."]]
'''Homestar Ruiner''' is the first episode of the ''[[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People]]'' video game series. It was released on August 11, 2008 for WiiWare and PC. It has been rated T by the ESRB for Crude Humor, Mild Cartoon Violence, and Mild Suggestive Themes. Story written by Mike Stemmle and [[The Brothers Chaps]].

While [[Strong Bad]] is going about his usual routine — checking [[Strong Bad Email|emails]], etc. — [[Homestar Runner]] tells him about the [[Contests#Tri-annual Race to the End of the Race|Tri-annual Race to the End of the Race]]. Once Strong Bad hears of Homestar's intention to win this contest, he schemes to snatch victory from Homestar's [[Lack of Visible Arms|invisible grasp]].

'''Cast:''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|The Poopsmith}}, {{film|Homsar}} (voice only, Easter egg), {{film|Marshie}} (as Gel-arshie), The Mole People, [[Homestar Ruiner Teen Girl Squad|Teen Girl Squad cast]]

{| cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
|-
| '''Places:'''
|- valign="top"
| style="padding-right: 2.5em" |
[[House of the Brothers Strong]] 
[[Basement of the Brothers Strong|Basement]] 
[[Laundry Room of the Brothers Strong|Laundry Room]] 
[[Strong Bad's Room]] 
[[Living Room of the Brothers Strong|Living Room]] 
[[Kitchen of the Brothers Strong|Kitchen]] 
[[Strong Sad's Room]] 
[[Computer Room]]
| style="padding-right: 36px" |
[[Race Track|The Race Track]] 
[[Coach Z's Locker Room]] 
[[Marzipan's House]] 
[[Marzipan's Gazebo]] 
[[The King of Town's Castle]]
|
[[The Field]] 
[[Bubs' Concession Stand]] 
[[Strong Badia]] 
[[Gremlin|The Gremlin]] 
[[Snap Shak]] 
[[Drive-Thru Whale|The Drive-Thru Whale]] 
[[The Stick]] 
[[The Brick Wall]] 
|}

== Inventory ==
* Balloons
* Banana Peel
* Candy
* Candy Coupon
* The float's paper maché head
* [[Fluffy Puff]] Jela-Ton
* Hedge Clippings
* Homestar's Cell Phone
* Homestar's Clothing
* Homestar's Criminal Record
* Homestar costume (combination of Homestar's Clothing and the paper maché head)
* Magnifying Glass (tutorial only)
* Marzipan's Shears
* Onion
* Plunger
* The Poopsmith's Shovel
* Strong Bad's clothes (to change back from the Homestar costume)
* [[Taranchula Black Metal Detector]]
* [[Total Load]]
* Trophy

== Ranks ==
#Academic Biathlete
#Midget Thumb Wrestler
#Rhythmic Curler
#Macro Golfer
#PVP Archer

#Polar Bear Vaulter
#Forbidden Ice Dancer
#Flaming Shot Putter
#Nitro Foosball Lineman
#Chainsaw Bocce Bowler
#Trogdor Polo Chucker

== Easter Eggs ==
* Enter the photo booth, interact with the top of the light closest to The Cheat. After the pointer changes shape, keep holding down the interaction button and drag the shirt onto Strong Bad to wear it.
** The shirt can also be obtained by walking off the right side of the photo booth three times, causing Strong Bad to walk under the floor. When he walks directly under the door and out of view, a sound will play, and he'll be wearing the shirt when he comes back into view.
*After prank calling everybody with Homestar's cell phone, you can prank call Homsar.

== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
*The Wii Title ID is WBXx, where x is the region code (E for United States, P for Europe).
*One of the entries in the "Special Thanks" in the game's end credits is for HRWiki.

=== Remarks ===
*This is one of the few times a character mentions [[Free Country, USA]]. The last time this occurred was when Strong Bad said it in [[flashback]].
*An attempt to use the microwave in-game will result in a note that the door is stuck shut. However, at a certain point in the game, Homestar will open it without any problem--even while Strong Bad is in the middle of saying it's stuck shut.
*Throughout the game, [[The Paper]] accompanies as part of the in-game menu rather than [[New Paper]].
*A different font is used for the [[Lappy 486]] rather than its regular [[Fonts|font]], Glitch0.

=== Goofs ===
*At the non-garden party, the rollover for Marzipan and Homestar is spelled "MARZIPAN & HOMSETAR".
*In Strong Bad's photo booth there is a clickable area above the camera. Clicking here turns the cursor into the Max shirt from the Telltale store (also occasionally chosen at random as Young Sam's costume in Sam and Max Episode 202: Moai Better Blues and Episode 204: Chariots of the Dogs). However, when put on Strong Bad, the shirt is yellow and has a picture of a dog on it.
*The subtitles are incorrect in several places
**When kicking the Cheat into the dryer, one of the subtitles misspells ''Pixelated'' as ''Pix'''i'''lated''.
**Homestar Runner sings "Do do-do do dooo dooo, do do-do do dooo" but the subtitles say "Do do-do do dooo dooo, do do-do do dooo dooo".
**While Strong Bad says "some French guy said I should beat you up", the subtitles quote him as saying "some French guy said that I should beat you up".
**While most abbreviations have an apostrophe, no apostrophe is transcribed when Homestar says "puddin sack".
**In several responses from the Drive-Thru Whale, the "O" in "Blubb-O's" is lowercase.
**When the Drive-Thru Whale says "'Nurer' spelled backwards is 'rerun.'" the word "in" is transcribed rather than "is".
**During Marzipan's answering machine message, the word "polluted" is misspelled as "poluted" in the subtitles.
**When Strong Bad finds the last page of the Snake Boxer V manual, the subtitles refer to the "SECRET F'''RO'''BIDDEN LEVEL'''.
**In one of the possible insults Strong Bad can say to Bubs, the word "arm" is misspelled as "armed."
**In viewing the sign on Bubs' Concession Stand, Strong Bad begins a sentence with "If I ever had any money" but the subtitles start it with "And if I ever had any money".
**During one comment about the banner on Marzipan's gazebo, Strong Bad says "in which case" but the word "which" was left out in the subtitles.

=== Glitches ===
[[Image:SBCG4APShirtGlitch.gif|thumb|Tech Shirt Glitch.]]
*If the subtitles are turned off, they will be erroneously enabled when Strong Bad checks his email. They will remain enabled afterwards until Strong Bad leaves his house, although the ''Settings'' screen will show them as '''Off'''. Toggling them on and off again under the ''Settings'' will rectify the problem.
*While wearing the tech shirt near Strong Bad's house, in extended play, geometry issues will occur, resulting in what looks like a blue wall shooting out from the shirt. This also occurs in other locations in the game.
*If the Luxa Lounger is extended (when it is unextended) and the radio set to the Latin music in Extended Play, the conga line will re-form even though it won't move.
**When the Luxa Lounger is set back the conga line will disappear, but Homestar, Marzipan, Coach Z, Bubs and the King of Town will appear where they were when the party was still going on. These characters cannot be selected, and Strong Bad can walk right through them.
*As Strong Bad wears the Homestar head, it is sometimes invisible, so you see Strong Bad grab nothing.

==== Wii Version ====
*If widescreen mode is turned on, talking to Coach Z in extended play results in the game crashing, requiring a hard reset. In addition, many of the cut scenes that play throughout the game will sometimes freeze, also requiring a hard reset.
*After Strong Bad plays [[Snake Boxer 5]], he gets teleported to the Computer Room and then back to his room.
*If the game is saved while in the photo booth while wearing a shirt and then immediately turned off, then when you start only the collar of the shirt will be visible.

==== PC Version ====
*Occasionally Homestar, Marzipan, Bubs, Coach Z, Strong Mad, Strong Sad or Strong Bad's eyes are not visible upon entering an area. The same may also occur with Strong Mad's mouth.

=== Inside References ===
*Homestar previously called his butt a "[[Glossary#T|twees]]" in [[lady fan]]. Also, Strong Bad mentions himself being a pain in the twees while looking at the "Nuisance Trophy".
*Strong Bad's pronunciation of "party" matches his pronunciation in [[nightlife]].
*Homestar mentions [[cake]] jugglers.
*Marzipan has previously written a [[Oh yeah yeah|song]] stating that she [[marzipan|really doesn't like Strong Bad at all]].
*Strong Bad mentions a [[French]] guy.
*This is another appearance of a [[cardboard box]].
*Strong Bad's song about you not being able to handle his [[style]] is a reference to [[modeling]].
*The music playing when Strong Bad leaves Bubs' Concession Stand and after Strong Bad approaches The Stick is the same one from [[hygiene]].
*"Thoughts on a [[Bird]]" from [[Audition with Marzipan]] and [[The Luau]] plays at Marzipan's house.
*The music playing at the track was first used in the Bubs' Concession Stand scenes in [[Senorial Day]], [[Happy Hallow-day]], and [[Toikey TV]].
*An ad for the [[Ab-Abber 2000]] plays on the TV in the basement.
*The music of "The Cheat's assorted Latin Rhythms" was first heard in [[pet show]].
*When hiding behind the King of Town's statue in the hall of records, Strong Bad lists the features of "Stealth Strong Bad", an imaginary action figure made by [[Cheap as Free|Cheap as Free Toys]].
*References to Strong Bad's [[style]] are made throughout the game.
*The music on the e-mail menu is a remix of the music from the game show scenes in [[animal]].
*Strong Bad can wear [[Homestar Runner's Pants|Homestar Runner's "Pants"]].
*This introductory sequence features an instance of [[couch mumbling]].
:*The video game title he mumbles is [[RhinoFeeder]].
*The music that plays in [[The Field]] comes from "A Grade A Gray Day" in [[fan club]].
*A poster for [[the Municipality]] can be found on the back of the lockers. The Municipality logo also appears on the Lappy screen just before the end credits.
*The tutorial sequence involves Strong Bad's Lappy being stolen from the computer room, which previously occurred in [[cliffhangers]]. When Strong Bad realizes it is missing, the dramatic music from that same email plays.
*Strong Bad carves one of the hedges into the shape of [[Trogdor]].
**Occasionally in Snake Boxer 5's forbidden mode, when using the fire breath attack, Strong Bad will shout "Burninate!"
*This is another appearance of [[showering]].
*When you first enter [[Living Room of the Brothers Strong|living room]] the same music from [[do over]], [[Date Nite]], the Easter egg from [[Play Date]], and [[love poems]] plays.
*Strong Bad saying "Check, Check one. Syllabus" into the microphone at the track is a reference to the opening of the email [[candy product]].
*The [[Limozeen Coloring Book]] can be seen on top of the messy pile over Strong bad's bed.
*While showering, Homestar sings the "Independent Girl" song from [[One Two, One Two]].
*When Strong Bad jumps into The King of Town's vent he says [[Catch Phrases#Dangeresque|"Looks like I'm gonna have to jump!"]]
*At the party, when Coach Z falls out the window, he exclaims "[[Fall Float Parade|I regret everything!]]"
*The loading screen's fading purple background is taken from the ending of [[retirement]].
*After putting on the Championship belt, Strong Bad will mention the Sizzle Weight belt and the Jack-Em Up Kid, which is a reference to the email [[yes, wrestling]].
*The voice of the newscaster heard on the TV is the same voice as the [[Cold Ones]] spokesperson in [[business trip]] and [[buried]], the [[Blubb-O's]] spokesperson in [[nightlife]] and [[Blubb-O's Commercial]], and Marzipan's questionable surgeon in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 15.2]].
*The hedge that Strong Bad clips in Marzipan's yard closely resembles Homestar in [[fan club]].
*The theme for [[KOT'S VOQPCS!|The King of Town's Very Own Quite Popular Cartoon Show]] plays while Strong Bad is outside the King of Town's castle.
*When Strong Bad first dons his Homestar disguise, his impersonation includes naming the sections of the [[Main Pages]].
*When Homestar is practicing in the locker room, he sometimes says "Look at me. Don't look at me. Look at me now." This is structured the same as a line from the commercial in [[Family Resemblence]].
*The theme music from [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] plays when inside [[The King Of Town's Castle]].

=== Real-World References ===
*When Homestar is on the phone with Marzipan, the way he says, "Yes? Yes. Yes. Yes? Noo! Yes. Yes?" is a reference to [[Wikipedia: Abe Lincoln Must Die!|episode 4]] of ''[[Wikipedia:Sam & Max Season One|Sam & Max Season One]]'', where Sam answers a phone with the Commissioner and says that in the same way.
**Additionally, the music which plays when Strong Bad acquires bonus items and trophies is ''Item Get'' from [[Wikipedia:Reality 2.0|episode 5]] of the same season.
* When investigating the stands near the track Strong Bad mentions the stands being emptier than a Stryper concert. [[Wikipedia:Stryper|Stryper]] was a Christian metal band from the '80s.
*When Strong Bad attempts to pick up the hurdle after the first run of the Race to the End of the Race, he claims that it must be made of some very heavy metal, and lists several materials he thinks it could be made of, including "black sabbath". [[Wikipedia:Black Sabbath|Black Sabbath]] was a heavy metal band which had great influence on the genre.
*After trimming the hedge near Bub's Concession Stand, having Strong Bad look at it leads him to call it "the [[Gibson Flying V|flying V]]". This is an actual guitar made by [[Wikipedia:Gibson Guitar Corporation|Gibson Guitar Corp.]] The hedge's shape is also accurate to the Gibson Flying V.
*Throughout most of the game, Strong Bad's fridge contains only a single jar of mayonnaise. In [[Wikipedia:Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis|''Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis'']], another point-and-click adventure game, Indiana Jones had only a single jar of mayonnaise in his fridge.
*Bubs will tell Strong Bad to "stay gold" after ending conversation. This is a reference to the book [[Wikipedia:The Outsiders|The Outsiders]] when the main character, Ponyboy, is told to "stay gold" from his friend.
*Strong Bad's [[DELETED|Deleted]] line, "Survey Says...DELETED!", is a reference to the popular game show [[Wikipedia:Family Feud|Family Feud]].
*When Coach Z discovers the Total Load in Pom Pom's locker, he cries out "[[Wikipedia: Cypress Hill|Cypress Hill!]]".
*After giving Marzipan the chocolates, Strong Bad says he gave her some "[[Wikipedia: Funky Cold Medina|Funky Cold Ma-Chocolates]]".
*When he collects all four trophies, Strong Bad speaks in a manner similar to the Count from [[Sesame Street]].
*Strong Bad saying "Check, Check one. Syllabus" into the microphone at the track is a reference to the line "Check, Check one. Sibilance" spoken by Barry (Tom Hanks) while conducting a microphone check for the band Aerosmith, before their performance in a ''Wayne's World'' sketch in a 1990 episode of ''Saturday Night Live''.
*The "Jane Austentaceous Chamber Music Jam" CD (the third one in the See Dee Spinner) is a reference to Jane Austin, who wrote books set in nineteenth century England, when chamber music was common.
**Strong Mad's line just after turning on the CD for the first time is a reference to Jane Austin's most famous book, Pride and Prejudice. Mr. Darcy is a main character in the story.
*At the party, when complimenting Coach Z, Strong Bad speaks some Swedish, ending with "Bork, Bork, Bork", one of the many Mock-Swedish words said by [[Wikipedia:The Muppets|The Muppets' Swedish Chef]].
*When Strong Bad hides behind the bonsai bush in the King of Town's Castle, he says [[Wikipedia:It's Arbor Day, Charlie Brown|"It's Arbor Day, Strongly Brown"]].
*When kicking The Cheat into the dryer, The Cheatspeak is [[Homestar_Ruiner_Responses_(House_of_Strong)#The_Cheat|subtitled as ''Wii?'']].
*One of Strong Bad's metal detector finding comments contains the phrase, "I hope it's a-bubblin' crude." This is a reference to the theme song from the television show "[[Wikipedia: Beverly Hillbillies|The Beverly Hillbillies]]", where Jed Clampett strikes it rich by finding "a-bubblin' crude" oil.
*When Strong Bad walks near Homestar Runner at the field, one of the things he is chanting is "I must, I must, I must improve my bust," a reference to the young adult novel ''[[Wikipedia:Are You There_God? It's Me, Margaret|Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret]]'' by [[Wikipedia:Judy Blume|Judy Blume]].
*When Strong Sad comments on his asthma after Strong Bad looks at the Strong Sad trophy, Strong Bad replies with "Sucks to your asmar!", which is a quote from the book ''[[Wikipedia:Lord of the Flies|Lord of the Flies]]''.
*When seen and questioned about using hedge shears on the Homestar float by Marzipan, Strong Bad responds, "I'm giving him [[Wikipedia:Shave and a Haircut|a shave? and a haircut? two bits?]]".
*Strong Bad exclaiming "Shape of a moron!" whenever he puts on his Homestar costume, And "Luxa Lounger Powers, Activate!", Whenever he reclines The Luxa Lounger, is a parody of the exclamations the [[Wikipedia:Wonder Twins|Wonder Twins]] make whenever they transform.
*Near the beginning of the game, when Homestar is still in the locker room, he will occasionally say [[Wikipedia:Press Your Luck|"No whammys, No whammys, No whammys"]].

== External Links ==
*[[SBCG4AP:homestarruiner|Official episode webpage]]
*[[Telltale:videos/homestarruinergameplay1|Watch the gameplay video for "Homestar Ruiner"]]
**[http://telltale.vo.llnwd.net/o15/videos/sbcg4ap/homestar101/homestar101gameplay.flv FLV video file for "Homestar Ruiner"]
*[[Telltale:videos/homestarruinergameplay2|Watch the second gameplay video for "Homestar Ruiner"]]
*[[YouTube:wCGdWBRgMIQ|YouTube mirror of the older version of the first gameplay video for "Homestar Ruiner"]]
*[[Telltale:community/blogs/id-337|Read May 14, 2008 press release about "Homestar Ruiner"]]
*[http://www.telltalegames.com/strongbad/homestarruiner/walkthrough Read a bare-bones walkthrough of "Homestar Ruiner"]
*[[forum:14052|forum thread re: "Homestar Ruiner" trailer]]
*[[forum:14627|forum thread re: "Homestar Ruiner"]]

{{SBCG4AP}}

Homestar Runner's Pants

ComputerBox — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:33:50 GMT

ComputerBox:

[[Image:homestarpants.PNG|thumb|"Well, I'll just, uh, put these pants on..."]]

'''[[Homestar Runner]]'s pants''' are somewhat of a mystery; does he wear white, skin-tight long pants? Or did he glue blue soles to the bottoms of his feet? [[The Brothers Chaps]] keep this running gag going by keeping the references ambiguous.

==References to Homestar's Pants==
*[[A Jumping Jack Contest]] — Homestar tells [[Pom Pom]] that he thinks he is going to pee his pants.
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 1.0]] — [[Coach Z]] suggests that [[Marzipan]] put something in Homestar's pants to cheer him up.
*[[Pom Pom#Character Video Transcript|Pom Pom's character video]] — Homestar says that Pom Pom has helped him out of some tight jams and some tight pants, although that only happened once.
*[[Everybody Knows It]] — The ending scene, where Homestar asks The Cheat, "I guess you'll go on back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?" appears to disprove that he has soles glued to his feet.
*[[New Boots]] — Although it is just [[The Cheat]]'s interpretation of Homestar, he is nevertheless shown wearing socks and separate shoes, as opposed to soles glued to his feet.
*[[Not the 100th Email!!!]] — Strong Bad tells Homestar to "keep his pants on". Homestar replies, "Pants? Hmm..."
*Email [[vacation]] — [[Strong Bad]] parodies this issue along with the question of [[Lack of Visible Arms|whether Homestar has arms]] when, while imagining an email that he might be missing, he says "How does Homestar pick stuff up if he's not wearing any Marzi-pants?"
*Email [[monument]] (Easter egg) — Homestar is about to put on some pants, but is then distracted by [[The Thnikkaman]].
*Email [[long pants]] The entire e-mail deals with Homestar and Strong Bad arguing about his pants, ending in Homestar going crazy.
*Email [[lady...ing]] (Easter egg) — Homestar tells Marzipan that he's wearing tight pants so as to "accentuate all [his] bubbleties".
*Email [[highschool]] — According to Strong Bad's doodle memory, Homestar's high-school self wore ridiculous stripèd pants. Teenaged Strong Bad and Teenaged Strong Mad "were all the time trying to liberate Homestar from [them]".
*Email [[senior prom]] (Easter egg) — With Homestar present, Strong Bad threatens to "poof away" everyone's pants in a mass pantsing, then realizes that he is the only one in the room wearing pants. Strong Bad's pants then poof away, but nothing happens to Homestar. Later, Homestar insists to Pom Pom that he was wearing "all these types of long pants" and that they got poofed away. Pom Pom says that Homestar can "keep telling [himself] that".
*Email [[yes, wrestling]] — Homestar appears to be wearing some skin tight pants.
* [[Homestar Ruiner]] — After taking Homestar's Clothes, you see them in the inventory as a shirt and some shoes with blue soles; when Strong Bad wears them, he appears to have white pants as well. In extended play mode you can wear Homestar's pants separately from the shoes and shirt.

==See Also==
*[[Pants]]
*[[Homestar Runner's Daisy Dukes]]

[[Category:Homestar Runner running gags]]
[[Category:Clothing running gags]]

Hot Moms

ComputerBox — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:00:21 GMT

ComputerBox:

[[Image:Cheat's hot mom.jpg|thumb|175px|"Ah, The Cheat's hot mom. Always in and out of prison."]]

Some characters in [[Free Country, USA]] claim that they or other characters have '''"hot" moms'''.

==Appearances==
*Email [[the bet]] (DVD commentary) — [[Matt Chapman|Matt]], as [[Strong Bad]], asks [[Mike]] if he ever hung out with the "loser guy" because of their cool toys or hot mom.
*[[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] — [[Coach Z]] thought Strong Bad was dressed as his (Coach Z's) hot mom.
*[[Fan Costumes '06]] — [[Strong Bad]] claims that a woman dressed as [[The Cheat]] is The Cheat's hot mom.
*Email [[hygiene]] — It is said that it's okay that Gene's mom buys all his clothes because she's young and hot enough. One of the things a chart shows for what people remember you is "your hot mom."
*[[Homestar Ruiner]] — Strong Bad asks if The Cheat kisses his hot mom with that mouth.

==Other Hot Relatives==
*[[Happy Dethemberween]] — [[Marzipan]] is revealed to have a hot cousin named Deborah.

==See Also==

*[[Parents]]

[[Category:Inside Jokes]]

Strong Bad Gameways

ComputerBox — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:19:19 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Fast Forward */

{{watchtoon|3uSyK2RdlUY|watch|YouTube}}
[[Image:Strong Bad Gameways logo.png|thumb|"You are now fully prepared to enjoy your game in total, unplayable safety."]]

Strong Bad gives safety tips for his Gameways.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}

'''Places:''' White Vastness, [[Strong Bad's Basement]]

'''Date:''' Tuesday, April 1, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 1:53

==Transcript==
''{Music begins and text fades in from a white background: "And now an important safety announcement". Strong Bad walks forward in a flight attendant's uniform.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hello. And welcome to Strong Bad Gameways. Thank you for playing with us today. Please take a moment to familiarize your bad self with the following safety precautions.

''{The text "Safety Precautions" appears next to Strong Bad in dripping blue letters. Fade to a closeup of a Wii remote.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Due to the possibility of in-game wiggle and waggle, it is recommended that you play your game in a large, open space, free of debris, rubble, and flotsam and Jetsons.

''{Arrows and text appear during the above monologue to demonstrate "Wiggle" and "Waggle". A watercolor picture of a man swinging a Wii remote appears to demonstrate a "large, open space". Sketches of a vase of flowers, a flaming military jeep, a message in a bottle, and a cross-eyed George Jetson appear to demonstrate "debris", "rubble", "flotsam", and "Jetsons", respectively.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ideal play spaces include: gymnasiums, abandoned airplane hangars, deserts, and fruitèd plains.

''{The man swinging a remote appears in the above environments on each verbal cue.}''

''{Cut to a sketch of a room with an open window and a Wii remote on a table.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' If you are seated in a window seat, pleased be advised that the Baba Jaga may show up to steal your firstborn baby.

''{The Baba Jaga appears carrying a sack with a baby on the verbal cue.}''

''{Cut to Strong Sad, wearing an inflatable vest and holding a Wii remote.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Lastly, your game controller is equipped with a safety cover that can double as a flotation device. ''{closeup of Wii remote}'' Simply pull on the cord, and the device will inflate.

''{Strong Sad pulls on a tab on the bottom of the remote, and the Wii jacket inflates.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh!

'''STRONG BAD:''' But we're not quite safe enough yet. ''{cut to Strong Bad}'' At this time, you may want to inflate your ''own'' safety vest to prevent ''anything'' from ever happening.

''{Cut to Strong Sad. He pulls the cord to inflate his vest and it engulfs him.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Waah!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' On behalf of our awesome-based crew, thank you for playing with us. You are now fully prepared to enjoy your game in total unplayable safety.

''{Closeup of the "Strong Bad Gameways" logo, a golden [[The Cheat]] with wings. Music fades.}''

''{Cut to Strong Sad and Strong Bad trapped in inflated vests in their basement. Their Wii remotes are on the floor, protected in inflated jackets.

'''STRONG SAD:''' I think my contents may have shifted!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, man. This is the best game I've never played!

''{Cut to a closeup of the game on the TV. In the game, a 3D Strong Bad sprite is standing at The Stick and looking around. The score is -1000 and the text "Actual Gameplay Footage" flashes over the screen. A Wii remote appears onscreen with the flashing text "Do something!" The Strong Bad sprite scratches himself and shrugs, and the text "Nevermind." appears next to the Wii remote. The Strong Bad sprite hangs his head and walks away, and the text "Game Over" fills the screen.}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Baba Yaga|Baba Jaga]] is a witch appearing in Slavic folklore.
*The phrase ''[[wikipedia:Marine debris|flotsam and jetsam]]'' describes discarded odds and ends or any objects found floating or washed ashore.
*This safety demonstration partially resembles those done prior to the takeoff of an airplane.

===Trivia===
*This is the first Homestar Runner video officially released on [[YouTube]].
*The YouTube address hash for this video was given in an Easter egg in [[shapeshifter]].

===Inside References===
*This is another instance in which [[Strong Bad Wearing A Shirt|Strong Bad wears a shirt]] (the flight attendant's uniform).
*The name of the [[YouTube]] account used to upload this video, [http://www.youtube.com/sportsinterviewa sportsinterviewa], is a reference to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]].
*The Baba Jaga's leaving comment, "She Gone!", was also used in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13]].
*Strong Bad says this is the [[Best/Worst X Ever|best game he's never played]].
*"Fruitèd plains" is another instance of the [[-èd]] pronunciation.
*The game footage resembles Strong Bad just "standing there" from [[cartoon]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:George Jetson|George Jetson]] is the father on the animated series ''[[Wikipedia:The Jetsons|The Jetsons]]''.
*Among many other references to the [[Nintendo]] [[Wikipedia:Wii|Wii]] and its ubiquitous safety warnings, the picture of a man swinging a remote is a direct sketch of an actual Wii warning screen.
*The scene with a remote on a table near an open window is modeled after the screen in [[Wikipedia:Wii Sports|Wii Sports]] that instructs players how to pause the game.
*The mention of "fruitèd plains", as well as the red-white-and-blue-striped clouds in the scene, is a reference to the song "[[Wikipedia:America the Beautiful|America the Beautiful]]".

===Fast Forward===
*It is later revealed that [[Telltale Games]] and [[The Brothers Chaps]] were both creating [[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People]], a game to be released as PC and Wii software. "Strong Bad Gameways" can also be viewed at Telltale Games' page for SBCG4AP. The "Actual Gameplay Footage" seen in this video is in fact ''actual'' gameplay footage from that game.

==External Links==
*[[YouTube:3uSyK2RdlUY|watch Strong Bad Gameways (YouTube)]]
*[http://www.telltalegames.com/strongbad/gameways watch Strong Bad Gameways (Telltale Games)]
*[[Forum:13827|forum thread re: "Strong Bad Gameways"]]

{{SBCG4AP}}
[[Category:YouTube]]

Talk:Theme Song Video

ComputerBox — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:15:10 GMT

ComputerBox: /* DVD Version */

==Homsar==
Is it really worth mentioning that Homsar is not in it, as he was not a character yet. He wasnt even created until a year later. - Lord-Z.

Actually, he is in it, see the DVD version on Everything Else. [[User:Homfrog|Homfrog]] 12:39, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

So, from the DVD version, he appears to be in design one of his evolution.
And the lyrics, "Homestar Runner, mom and dad!" are sung at his time. Does that mean Homsar is Homestar's Poopaw? [[User:Homfrog|Homfrog]] 12:42, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

::And Marzipan is his mother, and he's [[Wikipedia:Oedipus complex|Oedipal]]! Wait 'til the Shakespeare scholars get hold of this one! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:21, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:I think the new visuals were added later, intentionally in the older style. And no, I don't think that Homsar is Homestar's father. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 12:46, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

:::I do not understand that, AbdiViklas. [[User:Homfrog|Homfrog]] 20:16, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

::::This is <s>frankfurter</s> further established by evidence in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:43, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Skatetown, USA ==
Anyone have any idea what "skatetown, usa" is? It's on the back wall in the Bubs dance scene. [[User:Hobophobic|<nowiki>~</nowiki>Hobo]]

:I'm assuming that it's the name of a fictional rollerskating rink. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]]

Actually, Skatetown USA was a Movie released in 1979 - there are many real Skatetown USA roller rinks in the United States.

== Veracity of newly-added fun fact? ==

Can someone (besides the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=207.172.118.235 submitter] of the above fun fact) back up that the following fun fact is, indeed, true? If it can be confirmed it should be returned the article.

'''*this song is almost the same as the NES Super Homestario Bros. song. The only difference is that this song is longer.'''

--[[User:The Paper|Teh P.]] 19:01, 28 Oct 2004 (MST)

:The poster is correct, it's the same song as in [[Super NES]]. It should be linked, and worded better. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]]

== Video Description? ==

I ''really'' think there should be some kind of transcript of the video itself. The page seems a bit empty when there's just the lyrics. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*You are SO right. According to this page there's no way to tell what the video was like.

== Mom and Dad ==

Which came out first? This or [[Homestarloween Party]]?If this came first,the fun fact on the [[Homestarloween Party]] page stating it's the first mention of a mom of any character is wrong.Just saying...[[User:Ookelaylay|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]]
:Actually, [[Super NES]] came out first.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:53, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

== Brother Chaps ==

I slowed down the song and I still can't make out the Brother Chaps...--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 03:54, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:I can kinda hear them... but not really. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:14, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

== The distributive whaddawahuh? ==

Can someone refresh my mind (and maybe a fun fact) as to what this is?--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 05:57, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

== Knife hits Strong Sad? ==

'''Note: This discussion originated from an uploaded image titled''' Strong Bad edited.jpg '''showing the last frame of the scene when Strong Bad throws a knife at Strong Sad. The uploader posted a fun fact claiming that the knife did in fact hit Strong Sad. Below is the resulting discussion arguing the validity of this statement.'''

Ummm... That's kinda disturbing... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
:Does it really hit him, or did Mario-whatever just make that? I don't think TBC would do that on a website that can be for kids... {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:08, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

::It's ''Strong Bad edited.jpg''. And I don't recall it actually showing the result. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:09, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Actully, after watching it, the knife ''does'' hit Strong Sad. Creepy. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:11, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
::::After watching it myself, and pausing on the flash file, it actually cuts to a different scene before it hits him. That picture is the last frame we can see before it cuts, and the knife is clearly still in front of him, on an unknown vector, most likely to the upper right of the board, just missing him. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:01, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Not the paused version I saw. I rewound back a few frames, and it was stuck right in him. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::Mm, no. It's not stuck in him. That's just the way the in-flight knife is drawn. There are only two frames of the knife in-flight. Compare them. It looks blunted, but the tip of the knife is actually that uppermost point. The knife can't be sticking into Strong Sad when the entire tip is still visible. In fact, I don't think this image is even edited. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:39, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Whoa. This is the <s>greatest undersea epic ever filmed</s> longest image talk page I've ever seen. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:43, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::[[Image talk:HRWikiPuzzle.png]]
::::::::[[Image talk:Images.jpg]]
::::::::[[Image talk:The Main Characters.PNG]]
::::::::My own little reference-library. I searched it for longer pages for you. Of course, we keep this up and I'll have to baleet it. :) —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:54, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, I don't think it's actully hitting him. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:50, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
:I balleeted the fun fact, because:
:1. It's not a goof, it's a remark.
:2. (More important), we don't know if it's true or not.
:3. Er... there isn't 3. But a two number list seems kinda odd.

:If anyone disagrees with me, put it back, by all means! Although, at the stage it is now, I think this picture is useless. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:21, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
[[Image:skewedknife.png|thumb|skew'd!]]
After closer inspection, Pom Pom and I agree that the knife does ''not'' hit Strong Sad, and it isn't blunt when it's in flight, just skewed to give the impression of dimension. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:52, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Before (if) this image (Strong Bad edited.jpg) and gets deleted in the near future along with this Image talk: page, I would like this discussion copied to Talk:Theme Song Video. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:13, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

:I'm surprised anybody responded at all to an image talk page, let alone several having a full blown discussion (that I was on the winning side of =P) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:23, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

Should it be noted that "ath-a-lete" is pronounced "ath-a-''LATE''? [[User:Im a bell|Im a bell]] 03:04, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
:er... does ANYONE visit this page? [[User:Im a bell|Im a bell]] 03:04, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, I think so. But that's just one opinion. Wait for more users to put their input before changing anything. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 03:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes, I hear "ath-a-late" as well, and per the fourth point on [[HRWiki:Manual of Style#Spelling]], we should change it in the transcript. Go ahead and make the change, if you like. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
::::tanks. i'll also put (athlete) so people can understand it. [[User:Im a bell|Im a bell]] 01:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

== DVD Version ==

Are the new scenes in the old style or the current style? Do they try to animate Homsar in the old style? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, he has his overly-large hat from [[homsar]] in it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:19, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
::So it's the old style? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 17:28, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
::::His feet look different too, more like Homestar's. -[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 13:15, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

== inflatable cake ==

is it jsut me or is this in homage to the 3 stooges cake bit?
only dif, no explosion

:I think it's too vague to mention. I do see what you mean, though. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:05, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Strong Bad Email

ComputerBox — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:20:23 GMT

ComputerBox: undid revision 559872; decay, deranged, devandaled.

<div class="thumb tright"><div class="thumbinner" style="width:202px;"><div class="hovul" style="font-size:smaller;border-bottom:1px #CCC solid;margin-bottom:4px;padding-bottom:4px">[[hr:sbemail.html|Strong Bad Email menu]]</div>[[Image:sbemail_lappy2.png|200px|Strong Bad checks his email.]]<div style="padding-top:4px">Strong Bad checks his email.</div></div></div>
'''Strong Bad Email''', frequently shortened to '''sbemail''', is the most frequently updated feature of [[homestarrunner.com]]. It was originally a small feature introduced in 2001, in which [[Strong Bad]] would answer a fan-sent email and commonly mock the spelling and grammar of those who wrote to him. Although the animations were initially brief, the responses gradually grew to establish numerous [[inside jokes]], and [[running gags]] and catchphrases, as well as [[Strong Bad Email Spin-offs|spin-offs]], like [[20X6]], [[Teen Girl Squad]], [[Trogdor]], and even the main character [[Homsar]]. A typical Strong Bad Email will include numerous [[Easter egg|Easter eggs]] and other hidden material, often found at the ending screen. Many Strong Bad Emails, such as [[action figure]], [[japanese cartoon]], and [[isp]], are satirical views of particular aspects of popular culture.

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==Strong Bad Emails==

===[[Lappy 486]] Era===
''(November 2004 — present)''
<blockquote class="lappy email" style="width:90%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal">
<div>subject: sb_email menu</div>
<table class="emaillinks" style="color:#fff;background:none;width:100%">
<autocolumn cols="3" width="33%">
194. [[specially marked]] new! 
193. [[rated]] 
192. [[shapeshifter]] 
191. [[buried]] 
190. [[licensed]] 
189. [[pet show]] 
188. [[fan club]] 
187. [[winter pool]] 
186. [[environment]] 
185. [[nightlife]] 
184. [[diorama]] 
183. [[yes, wrestling]] 
182. [[business trip]] 
181. [[web comics]] 
180. [[slumber party]] 
179. [[pizza joint]] 
178. [[bike thief]] 
177. [[original]] 
176. [[hygiene]] 
175. [[concert]] 
174. [[mini-golf]] 
173. [[the paper]] 
172. [[more armies]] 
171. [[underlings]] 
170. [[rough copy]] 
169. [[from work]] 
168. [[your funeral]] 
167. [[the movies]] 
166. [[unnatural]] 
165. [[strong badathlon]] 
164. [[looking old]] 
163. [[what I want]] 
162. [[the chair]] 
161. [[4 branches]] 
160. [[coloring]] 
159. [[retirement]] 
158. [[cliffhangers]] 
157. [[trading cards]] 
156. [[road trip]] 
155. [[theme song]] 
154. [[keep cool]] 
153. [[redesign]] 
152. [[isp]] 
151. [[senior prom]] 
150. [[alternate universe]] 
149. [[candy product]] 
148. [[disconnected]] 
147. [[lady fan]] 
146. [[pop-up]] 
145. [[myths & legends]] 
144. [[narrator]] 
143. [[technology]] 
142. [[secret identity]] 
141. [[death metal]] 
140. [[highschool]] 
139. [[portrait]] 
138. [[space program]] 
137. [[bedtime story]] 
136. [[geddup noise]] 
135. [[lady...ing]] 
134. [[record book]] 
133. [[bottom 10]] 
132. [[modeling]] 
131. [[boring (really)]] 
130. [[do over]] 
129. [[garage sale]] 
128. [[rampage]] 
127. [[long pants]] 
126. [[best thing]] 
125. [[rock opera]] 
124. [[secret recipes]] 
123. [[origins]] 
122. [[dreamail]] 
121. [[part-time job]] 
120. [[radio]] 
119. [[animal]] 
</autocolumn>
</table>
</blockquote>
----

===[[Compy 386]] Era===
''(September 2002 — November 2004)''
<blockquote class="compy email" style="width:90%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal">Volume in drive C: has no label 
Directory of C:\sbemail\updated somedays 
<table class="emaillinks" style="color:#fff;background:none;width:100%">
<autocolumn cols="3" width="33%">
118. [[virus]] 
117. [[montage]] 
116. [[extra plug]] 
115. [[time capsule]] 
114. [[the facts]] 
113. [[pizzaz]] 
112. [[old comics]] 
111. [[other days]] 
110. [[for kids]] 
109. [[crying]] 
108. [[pom pom]] 
107. [[cheatday]] 
106. [[dangeresque 3]] 
105. [[replacement]] 
104. [[theme park]] 
103. [[haircut]] 
102. [[lunch special]] 
101. [[car]] 
100. [[flashback]] 
99. [[different town]] 
98. [[stupid stuff]] 
97. [[monument]] 
96. [[lackey]] 
95. [[the bet]] 
94. [[video games]] 
93. [[army]] 
92. [[kind of cool]] 
91. [[caffeine]] 
90. [[colonization]] 
89. [[local news]] 
88. [[couch patch]] 
87. [[mile]] 
86. [[no loafing]] 
85. [[2 years]] 
84. [[kids' book]] 
83. [[labor day]] 
82. [[impression]] 
81. [[date]] 
80. [[stunt double]] 
79. [[the process]] 
78. [[anything]] 
77. [[suntan]] 
76. [[sibbie]] 
75. [[funny]] 
74. [[privileges]] 
73. [[mascot]] 
72. [[crazy cartoon]] 
71. [[2 emails]] 
70. [[big white face]] 
69. [[personal favorites]] 
68. [[caper]] 
67. [[autobiography]] 
66. [[the show]] 
65. [[unused emails]] 
64. [[english paper]] 
63. [[fingers]] 
62. [[interview]] 
61. [[monster truck]] 
60. [[huttah!]] 
59. [[marzipan]] 
58. [[dragon]] 
57. [[japanese cartoon]] 
56. [[current status]] 
55. [[cheat talk]] 
54. [[morning routine]] 
53. [[comic]] 
52. [[island]] 
51. [[website]] 
50. [[50 emails]] 
49. [[theme party]] 
48. [[ghosts]] 
47. [[new hands]] 
46. [[your friends]] 
45. [[techno]] 
44. [[lures & jigs]] 
43. [[little questions]] 
42. [[action figure]] 
41. [[invisibility]] 
</autocolumn>
</table>
</blockquote>
----

===[[Tandy 400]] Era===
''(August 2001 — September 2002)''
<blockquote class="tandy email" style="width:90%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal"><div style="border:none;background:none;text-align:center;padding-left:17%"> FILENAME  - updated mondays</div>
<table class="emailgreenlinks" style="color:#0c0;background:none;width:100%">
<autocolumn cols="3" width="33%">
40. [[vacation]] 
39. [[property of ones]] 
38. [[helium]] 
37. [[dullard]] 
36. [[guitar]] 
35. [[sisters]] 
34. [[weird dream]] 
33. [[gimmicks]] 
32. [[flag day]] 
31. [[sugarbob]] 
30. [[12:00]] 
29. [[superhero name]] 
28. [[1 step ahead]] 
27. [[3 Wishes]] 
26. [[CGNU]] 
25. [[super powers]] 
24. [[the bird]] 
23. [[little animal]] 
22. [[sb_email 22]] 
21. [[cartoon]] 
20. [[spring cleaning]] 
19. [[tape-leg]] 
18. [[stand-up]] 
17. [[studying]] 
16. [[band names]] 
15. [[the basics]] 
14. [[duck pond]] 
13. [[i she be]] 
12. [[credit card]] 
11. [[i rule]] 
10. [[trevor the vampire]] 
9. [[i love you]] 
8. [[brianrietta]] 
7. [[halloweener]] 
6. [[depressio]] 
5. [[making out]] 
4. [[homestar hair]] 
3. [[butt IQ]] 
2. [[homsar]] 
1. [[some kinda robot]]
</autocolumn>
</table>
</blockquote>

==DVD Releases==

*Emails 1-160 have been released on the [[strongbad_email.exe]] 5-disc DVD series.

===DVD Emails===

The following emails only appear on the DVD set:

*[[Greeting Cards]] (Bonus Email #1)
*[[E-mail Birds]] (Bonus Email #2)
*[[Videro Games]] (Bonus Email #3)
*[[Family Resemblence]] (Bonus Email #4)
*[[Real-Live E-Mails]] (Bonus [[Puppet Stuff]] Email)
*[[Accent]] (Bonus Email #5)

==Podstar Runner Releases==
Beginning January 30, 2006, Strong Bad emails were released under a feature called [[Podstar Runner]]. They have featured popular [[Toons]], [[Teen Girl Squad|Teen Girl Squads]], and Strong Bad Emails in .m4v format. They are designed to be viewed on a Fifth Generation Apple [[Wikipedia:iPod|iPod]], but are workable on a variety of other portable media players. These emails are featured or have been featured through this service (in order of release, top left being the earliest, bottom right being the latest):

<table width="100%">
<autocolumn cols="4" width="20%">
*[[techno]]
*[[dragon]]
*[[japanese cartoon]]
*[[kids' book]]
*[[crying]]
*[[bottom 10]]
*[[caffeine]]
*[[virus]]
*[[guitar]]
*[[video games]]
*[[different town]]
*[[montage]]
*[[personal favorites]]
*[[sisters]]
*[[death metal]]
*[[theme park]]
*[[crazy cartoon]]
*[[army]]
*[[flag day]]
*[[trevor the vampire]]
*[[stunt double]]
*[[best thing]]
*[[caper]]
*[[mascot]]
*[[geddup noise]]
*[[isp]]
*[[alternate universe]]
*[[garage sale]]
*[[monster truck]]
*[[action figure]]
*[[radio]]
*[[spring cleaning]]
*[[replacement]]
*[[technology]]
*[[haircut]]
*[[animal]]
*[[highschool]]
*[[theme song]]
*[[mile]]
*[[looking old]]
*[[strong badathlon]]
*[[unnatural]]
*[[the movies]]
*[[your funeral]]
*[[from work]]
*[[rough copy]]
*[[underlings]]
*[[more armies]]
*[[the paper]]
*[[mini-golf]]
*[[concert]]
*[[hygiene]]
*[[original]]
</autocolumn>
</table>

==Not Quite Strong Bad Emails==

The following shorts were originally associated in one way or another with the Strong Bad Emails. They are numbered by halves to show where they appeared chronologically in the list above. Numbers 99½B, 118½, and 158½ are not linked to from anywhere on the site.

*193½B. [[The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw]] (The end contains what appears to be a Strong Bad Email.) 
*193½A. [[Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People Advertisement]] (This email is an advertisement for a game that is in the making and never actually appeared on the Strong Bad Email page)
*191½. [[Rotten Eggs]] (A message made by the splattered rotten Easter egg reads, "Sbemail Next Week.")
*170½. [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]] (A deleted scene from [[from work|sbemail 169]])
*158½. [[Lappynapped!]] (Messages on Strong Bad's answering machine, as the Lappy is missing.)
*152½. [[Weclome Back]] (Strong Bad tries to show an email he checked over summer vacation (in midair, no less), but hits "stop" instead of "record" on the video camera.)
*149½. [[Sbemail 150?!?]] ([[Strong Sad]] tries to get Strong Bad to do his 150th email.) 
*136½. [[Sick Day]] (A failed attempt at an email due to sickness striking the entire cast.) 
*127½. [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] ("The Email Show" is one of the pay-per-view features.)
*118½. [[Broken Compy Menu|Strong Bad Email?]] (Broken Compy Menu.) 
*99½B. [[Not the 100th Email!!!]] (Secret URL address for anyone who wanted a peek at Email 100 before it was released.)
*99½A. [[Puppet Time]] (A message was taped onto Puppet Compy's screen that read "Probably at a barbecue, from SB")
*68½. [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] (A message was taped onto the Compy in the email menu that read "Looking at a thing in a bag" when the cartoon was released.)
*66½. [[Arcade Game]] (Homestar Runner reads Strong Bad's note he left on the Compy 386.)
*59½. [[Superbowl Dealie]] ([[The Paper]] reads "Due to the big game, the Strong Bad Email will be late this week.")
*55½. [[Decemberween_Email_Menu|Too Busy to Check E-mails]] (Typed on the Compy is "No emails on the holidays.")
*41½. [[King of Town Email]] ([[The King of Town]] tries to answer an email on his recently bought (but broken) Tandy 400.)
*36½. [[TV Time Toons Menu]] (Placing the mouse over Strong Bad Email will bring up a short, soundless email from Stu. See [[Wireless Bizness]].)

==Strong Bad Email Menus==

*1–32 [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemail_first.html Tandy 400 menu]
*33–34 [[Broken Tandy Menu]]
*35–40 [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemail_youguysokay.html Slightly damaged Tandy menu]
*41 [[HR:sbemail(vacation).swf|Vacation menu]]
*42–118 [[HR:sbemail.swf|Compy 386 menu]]
**Between 55 and 56 [[Decemberween Email Menu]]
**Between 118 and 119 [[Broken Compy Menu]]
*119–Current [[HR:sbemail_lappy.swf|Lappy 486 menu]]

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*Some time during mid-2003, "updated mondays" on the main Strong Bad Email Menu changed to "updated somedays." Nothing like this is even noted in Lappy-era emails.
*On the Compy 386 menus, Strong Bad types "<tt>dir /p</tt>", a [[Wikipedia:DOS|DOS]] command used to list all the files in a directory, and to pause between each screen's worth of files.
*Not including Not Quite Strong Bad Emails, Strong Bad has checked 223 emails as of [[specially marked]].
*It would take 9 hours, 23 minutes, and 18 seconds  to watch every Strong Bad email, including the DVD exclusives but excluding clickable Easter eggs. Including clickable Easter eggs, it would take 10 hours, 14 minutes, and 13 seconds. 
*Email #22, "[[sb_email 22]]", was actually made between emails 40 and 41. It was originally skipped and later made and released under the title 'the lost email' right before Strong Bad replaced his computer with the Compy 386.
*Strong Bad Emails make up about 60% of the toons on the site.
*Back in the Tandy 400 era (at least until July 2002), emailing Strong Bad would result in this automated response:
<blockquote>Thanks for your freakin email. I hope it's not stupid. 
Once I finish these swiss cake rolls I'll read it and if it's awesome enough, 
I'll answer it on the site. 
But if your email is terrible, then it gets R.E.D. alright. 
The Cheat Reads it, Strong Mad Eats it, and I Deletes it. 
[[HR:processing.html|Click Here]] to see us in action! 
Check back every Monday to see if your email has what it takes. 

Watch me while I'm awesome, 
Strong Bad</blockquote>

The link in the automated response leads to the [[Email Processing Room]].
*After [[Random Toon|random.bat]] was implemented, the email list comes from the [[HR:rando.xml|rando.xml]] file. Before this, it was included in the Flash file.
*Occasionally, there is a [[Acknowledged Update Delays|lengthy gap]] between email updates. This is sometimes recognized at the start of the next email, as in [[army]], [[geddup noise]], and [[redesign]].
*[[butt IQ]], [[CGNU]], [[3 Wishes]], and [[what I want]] are the only emails with capital letters in their titles.
*Typing sbemail.swf in the address bar will take you to the Flash file for the [[Compy 386]] era.

===Remarks===
*At [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006|Flashforward 2006]], [[The Brothers Chaps]] gave a list of [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006#Pre-animation Process - 4:05 p.m.|five things not to email Strong Bad about]]. Additional information about which emails are selected were given in a later [[Late Nite JengaJam Interview - 4 Oct 2007#Email|radio interview]]
*During most emails, you see the back of Strong Bad's head when he sits in front of the computer, which is why he often starts a new line before the text reaches the right side of the computer's screen. However, on the Strong Bad Email menu, you don't see his head at all. This is probably so the viewers can use the bottom scroll button without anything in the way.
*During [[Lappynapped!]], [[retirement|retirement A]], and [[retirement|retirement B]], when the Lappy was kidnapped, it was still used for the Strong Bad Email menu.

==External Links==

*[[HR:sbemail.html|Strong Bad Email menu]]
*[[HR:sbemail_lappy.swf|View the Flash file for Strong Bad Email Menu]]
*{{pl|l=mailto:strongbad@homestarrunner.com Email Strong Bad}}

{{StrongBadEmailInfo}}
{{H*RNav}}
{{recenttoons}}

<noinclude>
[[Category:Strong Bad Email]]
[[Category:Lists]]
[[Category:Computer Files]]
[[Category:H*R Navigation]]
</noinclude>
{{subtitlesLinks|sbemail}}

Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 10

ComputerBox — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:53:29 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Bowser */

{{featuredarticle}}
==TGS Issue Picture==
Which picture should we use? [[Image:Mightywarrior.PNG|thumb|"Mightywarrior.PNG"]][[Image:TeenGirlSquad10.PNG|thumb|"TeenGirlSquad10.PNG"]]

Number one (the warrior) id say. its somthing difffernt
:The lower one definitely. It shows the theme of the episode better. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Stan! ==

In the hidden easter egg where The ugly one's dad is advertising, the way he is waving his arms around is a striking resemblence to Stan from the Monkey Island Games. Would this be a fun fact?

Easter Egg? If this exists why isn't it listed? --[[User:Mrdude|jake]] 15:37, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

It is. - Sahm
:Yup. It was listed sometime between 3:37 pm Oct. 10 and now, though, which explains the question. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:41, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== New Software ==

I think the reason for the new animation is TBC got some new animation software and they wanted to test it out. [[User:DaChazman|DaChazman]]

It's all done with Flash. If it were done with Flash 8 (the new one) we'd know. [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 16:25, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:Besides, with simple characters like that, you can do that with a few masks and shape tweens. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 21:13, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

I know there's some software that can export 3D animation to flash. It's called [http://www.erain.com Swift 3D]. However, I dont know if TBC are using it. -[[User:Jesselangham|Jesselangham]]

:They're not. There's nothing fancy with the rotation that they haven't done before, eg in [[funny]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:51, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, good point. That software is expensive anyway. Too expensive for a 1 second rotation. -[[User:Jesselangham|Jesselangham]]

== 3-D? I don't even know what that is! ==

I move that all instances of the word 3-D be replaced with the word 3D. Who's with me, eh? [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 16:25, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:Can somebody who knows something about 3D software confirm that the "We got a spinner" gag is a reference to the bizarre glitches that such software sometimes create (elements moving by themselves in weird ways)? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:14, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:I found it to be a reference to CGI animation glitches like the ones shown under special features of Pixar movies.---[[User:RatherAnnoying|RatherAnnoying]] 19:29, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, that's what I was thinking of; like the monster's hair in Monsters Inc. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:32, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

: You're wrong, BTW. [[Wikipedia:3D|3D]] is an auto-redirect to [[Wikipedia:3-D|3-D]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:50, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

:And m-w.com doesn't recognize [http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=3d&book=Dictionary 3D], only 3-D. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:55, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

==Inside references==
In the party sequence, I know all the TGS inside references are listed in the cast of characters at the beginning, but is there any other appropriate way to mention it elsewhere? Say, an inside reference that simply says "See the Cast of Characters?" Also, can someone confirm my suspicion that this contains ''every'' TGS character seen to date (even a reference to Brett!), and that it's the first TGS to include a shot of the "real world," or of regular H*R characters other than Strong Bad? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:I'm not sure about your first question, but I can answer your second and third ones:
*2: No, it does not contain every TGS character to date. For example, the Floor Tom and the Vulture/Bat don't appear. See the Minor TGS Characters page for a bunch of characters that fail to appear.
*3: Yes and no. It is the first episode to show the "real world", but [[Pom Pom]] appears in episode #8.
:Hope that helps. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::This ''is'', however, the first TGS to show any character--including Strong Bad--outside of the comic's world. Pom Pom in issue 8 was still a drawing, as was Strong Bad's cameo appearances in issues 1, 8, and 9. This is the first time a TGS episode has had not-drawings in it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Actually, Strong Bad Email #53, "comic" also features TGS and "not-drawings" together. Which is the "official" TGS #1, anyway?
:::The Vultures do appear. See the bottom left corner of the scene where Manolios is introducing The Ugly One. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:55, 10 October 2005 (BST)
::::Sorry, I meant the Vulture from issue #2. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:58, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Vowels ==
Vowels are A-E-I-O-U "Y" is not a vowel :p
:Sometimes it is. It's being used as a vowel in this case. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::From the Wikipedia: "In the standard English language, the letter [[Wikipedia:Y|Y]] is traditionally regarded as a consonant, but as a survey of almost any English text, including this one, will show, Y more commonly functions as a vowel." So our anonymous friend is right. Y is not a vowel. And sign your posts.{{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:37, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Also from Wikipedia: The name "vowel" is often used for the symbols used for representing vowel sounds in a language's writing system, particularly if the language uses an alphabet. In the Latin alphabet, the vowel letters are usually A, E, I, O, U, and in some languages Y, as in English. -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft.holmes]] 19:50, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Oh yeah, because an entirely user-edited encyclopaedia can NEVER contradict itself. Why don't we go with the majority and accept that Y is NOT a vowel?
::::[http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/RefEdList.aspx?refid=210026329 Encarta] seems to agree as well. After all, the way most schools teach vowels is A-E-I-O-U and SOMETIMES Y. In "sorry," Y is a vowel, as it is nearly impossible to construct a meaningful syllable without a vowel. Does "syzygy" also have no vowels in it? No. ... Okay, I rambled. Sorry. But Y is a vowel in this case. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::: Because it is. The word "vowel" denotes how the letter is used, not what the letter is. As it happens, Y isn't the only "consonant" that can be used as a vowel (W is common, and G and H show up often too.) It's just that the five letters most commonly called "vowels" are the ones NEVER used as consonants. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:39, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

"Vowel" and "consonant" are phonetic distinctions, not letter distinctions. "We're sorry" is pronounced ([[Wikipedia:IPA chart for English|IPA]]) /wi:r sɒˈri:/ - both /i/s and the /ɒ/ are the vowels. It is simply that the large majority of vowel sounds are represented in English with A-E-I-O-U which is why they're called the 5 vowels. So we then have 2 definitions of "vowel" - a vowel ''phoneme'' (which is relevant for the "there's at least one vowel in every syllable" rule) or a vowel ''letter'' (strictly A-E-I-O-U, possibly Y depending on who you ask). The confusion only comes when you get the two confused - for example a syllable does not require A-E-I-O-U(-Y), just a vowel phoneme. Getting back to the point, it's impossible to pronounce words completely without vowel phonemes, /ə/ slips in everywhere (/wər sər/ is as far as you can take "we're sorry"). "Removing all the vowels" only makes sense from a vowel letter view, in which case Y only applies if whoever it is wants it to. And now I'm rambling a bit, so I'll stop. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:13, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

You know... even after all this controversy, it doesn't make a good Fun Fact, since she never mentions taking ALL the vowels out. She says "taking ''the'' vowels out," which, yes, implies ''all'' the vowels, but doesn't say it emphatically. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:33, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I'm confused. Have we reached a conensus yet? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 11:57, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

This is a horrible fun fact. Regardless of whether or not Y is a vowel... the scene is meant to be a pun on internet slang (in AIM saying sry instead of sorry). If they said "'m Srr" it wouldn't be nearly as catchy or funny. I fail to see how this is of interest to anyone. -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 02:30, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
* As I pointed out on STUFF, that doesn't even begin to explain "prty," which was said before "srry". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:00, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

The slang term for sorry on the internet IS NOT srr it's Srry. As DMurphy said, it's not about the vowels. I say get rid of the thing.

This fun fact has been STUFF'd. [[Template:STUFF/Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|The TGS10 STUFF Page]] -[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 22:59, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

==The other side of the paper==
When the paper saying "Its over" in on screen, you can see the other side of the paper, which is the image of Strong Bad making out with the Ugly One. I dont know if you can see it on a regular screen, but I can only see it on my Laptop, if I makes the screen darker. - Lord-Z
: I see it too. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yes, and this has already been noted in the transcript. It's been covered just for you ;){{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 21:11, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== References ==
When the Ugly One's father presents her to the party, I am pretty sure that that is a reference to the MTV show, My Super Sweet Sixteen. Am I correct? --[[User:ItalianBallerina|ItalianBallerina]]

No, this is just a common practice at sweet sixteens. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 20:50, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm thinking the whole transformation of The Ugly One is a reference to the movie She's All That, in which Rachel Leigh Cook's character goes through the same kind of transformation. --[[User:P0wned|p0wned]]

:Or is it to Miss Congeniality? Or... what's that other one where an overlooked girl comes out of her shell—oh yeah, Cinderella! Fact is, the ugly duckling plot line has been around since, well, The Ugly Duckling. Probably before. It's a reference, not to any of the movies or stories that use it, but to that plot line. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:27, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:: I'm not even sure that the word "reference" works there; it's just a similar story line. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:30, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, "I" think it is an insult to Hilary Duff. They're making fun of her by portraying The Ugly One as the superstar hotness(Transformation?) and her making out with Strong Bad is what the Brothers Chaps want Hilary Duff to do with Strong Bad. RHRN the Jigglypuff.

:RHRN, will you quit saying that everything is a reference/insult to Hilary Duff? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::Don't worry, Kookykman. RHRN ''has'' stopped. Blocked indefinitely for insulting comments, removing others' remarks, personal attacks, editing others' userpages, and sending a load of derogatory mail to Tom. We need not worry about that one anymore. Also, it was quite a while ago. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Breakin? ==
When Strong Bad says "Arrow'd II: Electric- wait a minute!", it seems to be a reference to "Breakin II: Electric Boogaloo", a movie which has been mentioned on the site before. [[User:TheSyndicate88|TheSyndicate88]]
:Check the fun facts, dude. It's already in there. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Olympic Coach's Voice? ==

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Olympic coach is the only TGS character not voiced by Strong Bad. If so, do you think that's a worthy fun fact? [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 21:53, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:What about Mr. Pitters?

:Also the vultures as they are eating Mr. Pitters do not have a Strong Bad-type voice. Maybe Fatty's Big Chance as well. The voice is grainy and rough, but not as much as the other characters. --[[User:Gillan The Villain|Gillan The Villain]] 22:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:The Scottsmen don't really sound like strong bad.- [[User:Jhonka|Jhonka]]

:He sounds a bit like Wilt from Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends, if you ask me. Also, I'm pretty sure Peacy P is not SB's voice.
-Alex H.

==Has 3D Been Used Before?==
I think 3D was used before. On [[The Luau]], the tofu seems to be spinning in 3D. -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 23:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
:I think what has everybody so excited is that in this one the ''camera'' moved in 3D. Though I'm not sure it took anything more than plain ol' Flash to do that. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:Don't forget the opening to [[The Interview]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:21, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:True, but the animation here seems a lot smoother than that, with the spinning camera sequence, What's-her-face spinning and Strong Bad's movements at the end of the toon.
::Only because the framerate is higher. Flash's default framerate is 12fps - which is about the lower limit for most people being able to distinguish animations from a series of pictures. TGS10 is 20fps - so a lot of the animations are smoother. I've looked with the decompiler - just trust me when I say that What's Her Face spinning is done exactly the same way that they do Strong Bad's head turning to look from side to side. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:29, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pictures from the Party ==

I made an image of the pan across the party, showing the minor characters appearing in attendance. It'd make a nice picture for somewhere, I think. (I had the idea of making it just a link, not an actual picture, and putting it in the issue 10 article somewhere. [[Duck Guardian One]] has an example of this in the Trivia section.) One thing though: the picture is roughly four or five times bigger in file size than what's normally recommended to upload. So I thought I'd tell people before acting, just in case. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Pwn ==
Is pwn a reference to [http://www.purepwnage.com/ Pure Pwnage]? Because thats basically the only other place I've heard it. - [[User:Faro1|Faro1]]
:It's vice versa - Pure Pwnage is a referance to the word pwn. Look at the [[Wikipedia:Pwn|wikipedia link]] from the article. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:31, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm glad they made fun of that term. Can't we just correct the typo and call it "ownage?" -[[User:Jesselangham|Jesselangham]]
:Its not a typo. It's [[Wikipedia:Leet|l33t-sp34k]]. -[[User:B|B]] 06:05, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
::It's not consistent in the transcript, though. In one place, the leet-speak is verbalized, with the pronounciation in italics, and in the other place the leetspeak's in italics with the pronounciation verbalized. Should it probably be one way or the other for both (either both having leet-speak in italics, or having the pronounciations in italics)? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 13:00, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

== Goof or Remark ==
[[Image:Babydaddy.PNG|100px|thumb]]
<div style="border:1px #CCC solid;padding:3px;background:#fafafa;">''In the rotational scene, Cheerleader's ''baby daddy'' seems to come out of her dress.''</div>

:I think this inconsistancy was a mistake made by the Brothers Chaps, therefore a goof. However, It's dot com insists otherwise, rendering it a Remark. What is it? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Remark.'''</s> I'm not saying they did it ''on purpose'' per se. I ''am'' saying that because this sequence is the first of its kind on the site, they would have paid it extra special attention. Therefore, TBC would have realized the type is doing what it does. Maybe they actually did do it intentionally. Maybe they saw how it turned out and liked what they got. Or maybe there was some technical limitation that made it like it is. It doesn't really matter, because the point is that they didn't ''mistakingly'' do it the way they did. I mean, let's give them a ''little'' credit. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:13, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft.holmes]] 21:06, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I don't know how this could happen to make it a goof. There's no way they would have programmed the words to ''not'' be on the shirt and not have noticed. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 22:11, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*<s>'''Goof.''' Now I don't know for sure if it'd be easy to fix or not, but it seems to me they could have just omitted the "ba" and "da" to get a favorable result. If they noticed it, they probably figured it was just one frame and not worth fixing. But that doesn't change the fact that it is still a goof - missed or seen and ignored. This seems to be just as much of a goof as all the other ones written down there. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}</s>
*'''Goof.''' When I posted it, I put it on goofs. I'm with Joshua on this one. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:33, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Goof.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:34, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Goof.''' Paying attention or not, the writing is off the shirt. That says ''goof'' to me. We don't know their intentions. -[[User:B|B]] 21:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**The fact that we don't know their intentions is a prime reason for it to be a remark. I'd rather err on the side of TBC here. Calling it a remark when it was a goof doesn't make it less true, and leaves it open to interpretation. Calling it a goof when it really wasn't stigmatizes it unnecessarily. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
*Just because they don't bother to fix it doesn't mean it's not a goof. If we followed your standards, then we'd have to move a lot, maybe almost all, of the goofs to remarks. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:44, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**Not at all. I'm trying to emphasize that they would not have been careless here, since the effect is new and unique. I believe they have both of these things here exactly how they want them. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
* <s>'''Remark.''' After going through it frame by frame, I discovered that Cheerleader's text is floating off the ENTIRE thing, all three times, rather than the single frame that I thought before. So now I think TBC did it to make the overall thing look better when moving quickly, to make the 3D stand out more. But it still deserves mention. And a better picture. (It's hard to see what's what in the currect pic.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:17, 11 October 2005 (UTC)</s>
* [[Image:sbfacemask.png|thumb|right|Strong Bad's head, with and without masking]] '''Glitch''' - some explination of how TBC make things rotate is in order. Making a realistic rotation would be very time consuming, and you'd need to draw almost every frame to get it to look smooth. However, TBC take a shortcut - almost everything they make that rotates is just a plain sphere with a thing added on it, eg Strong Bad's face or his shoelace thingy - apart from that his head is perfectly round - so when they rotate his head left and right only the face and shoelace have to move, the actual head can stay still. Now for the second shortcut - when his face moves around his head, they don't actually do anything fancy to make it go "around" - they just move it straight from left to right, no distortion, no parallax, nothing. Then they take a mask the shape of SB's head and use it to crop the face to the head. The result - it looks like the face is going around the head. Look at the picture on the right if you're not sure what I mean. If the effect isn't strong enough they add things like skews to make it more real, but for the most part they don't need to. Now we come to Cheerleader's shirt. They did the same thing they always do. They animated everyone's faces and the writing on Cheerleader's dress as moving across them from side to side. Then they added a mask to their faces, but forgot to add a mask to Cheerleader's dress. Hence it is a glitch, I see no reason for them to do this intentionally, and a perfectly good reason for them to do it accidentally. As for Goof vs Glitch, I thought Goofs were things like plot holes, mistakes in the design of the toon, and Glitches were mistakes in the actual building of the toon in Flash, like this. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:56, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

:'''Thank you''', Phlip. For one thing, I had been wondering about the seemingly indiscriminate and interchangeable use of "Goof" and "Glitch." Seems to me a lot of Goofs around here need moving... Also, thanks for finally providing some insight on the way the Flash stuff worked. I agree it's a Flash-generated glitch, but for the record I'm not ''necessarily'' saying they didn't notice it and think it was cool. I think it's kinda cool myself. It enhances the 3-D-ness of it all, kind of a ViewMaster moment. :) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:12, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Glitch.''' Shifting my vote again. Phlip's explanation makes a lot of sense. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:07, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Glicth.''' I can go for a glitch here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:22, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

 <div style="border:1px #CCC solid;padding:3px;background:#fafafa;">''When Strong Bad rewinds the 3-D spin around, the "SO GOOD!" speech bubble disappears.''</div>

:Same deal here as above. The bubble was there, then it wasn't. All that happened was a rewind and replay. OOPS. Seems pretty clear, and the note is still there. -[[User:B|B]] 21:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

*<s>'''Remark.'''</s> I really can't imagine how this could be accidental. I just don't see TBC watching this toon later and slapping their heads: "We forgot to keep the speech bubble there!" — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:36, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I know ''I'' wouldn't want to deal with animating a speech bubble if I had a Monday deadline. I don't know how a rotating speech bubble would work realistically, so I think they probably took it out so people wouldn't look at it and say "wow, that just doesn't look good" if they got it wrong. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 22:38, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
***Look closely - they already did a rotating speach bubble the first time they spin around - it's just not there when they spin the second time... <s>So, '''Glitch'''</s>. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:56, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Goof.''' But this differs from the above. Although I doubt TBC did this without noticing, it is an "inconsistancy," which officially makes a [[HRWiki:Standards#Goofs|goof]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} (You know, we really are fighting over nothing. :P)

The wording of the Standard you linked is: "...if things mysteriously vanish or appear (and it's not obviously intentional...)." Personally I have a problem with that wording; I would move it be changed to "obviously ''not'' intentional." Little change, big difference. First of all, let's all notice that they ''did'' animate the rotating speech bubble on the first rotation, okay? Then it disappears because they're done talking. Now if it was in fact an omission, it was a pretty big honkin' one; it's not like the [[A Folky Tale#Goofs|grass around Strong Sad]]; it's a huge... well, thing. My personal opinion is that they left it off the second time because this rotation is essentially a ''visual'' effect, and they didn't want it to get in the way of the effect. If it was in fact an omission, it would have to be a last-minute, bleary-eyed, semi-conscious one (which doesn't fit the quality of the rest of the 'toon). I'm staying non-commital as usual, but I find the arguments for not even mentioning this one pretty strong. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:20, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
: "Not obviously intentional" conveys the meaning I intended when I wrote that better than "Obviously not intentional." For instance, with the "baby daddy" thing, it's not obviously not intentional, but it's not obviously intentional either. (If you can parse that.) However, the disagreement here is on just what IS obvious in this case. This much is obvious: they didn't just reverse and repeat the scene, since the speech bubble is missing. Maybe they just felt like drawing it twice, maybe the second time was an earlier version, or maybe it was intentional. And, at any rate, I'm not willing to call it a "Goof," because it's really not needed (speech bubbles are not physical objects in the real world, so its non-inclusion doesn't really affect what's happening in the scene at all.) So '''remark.''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:43, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
::I agree with what Jay is saying and I maintain that it is a remark. On the other hand, it is pretty obvious by just watching the toon, so like AbdiViklas hinted, perhaps '''it should just go unmentioned.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:29, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I'm clean with leaving it out, but we should note for this discussion that, even though this is a ''visual'' effect, the sound remains, indicating a simple re-wind. The omission is indeed obvious, so leave it out. -[[User:B|B]] 06:13, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

The more I think about this the more it seems the must have tried just reversing the whole scene, speech bubble inclusive, and realised it didn't look very good (I mean, the speech bubble disappeared when they finished talking and String Bad started talking, and it would look weird for it to return), so they removed it. So I'm changing my vote to '''either put it in the transcript or leave it out entirely, probably the latter'''. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:22, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

== Making out ==

Is this the first time we've ever seen Strong Bad actually make out with something? I mean, he's always gone on about it. If it really is the first time I think it's worthy of a mention in the article somehow.
:It think this is the first time we've seen him... kissing. I think it's noteworthy. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:23, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
i thought that was discusting....i had too close down the window and turn the
volume all the way down!-[[User:Timmy!]]

its also the first time we have seen strong bad eating a girl, atleast the paper 1 is drawn on, tbc have been getting a LITTLE r rated with that!@!
and actually if you count fan hallloweeen costumes we did see "strong bad" making out with a girl before
:And if we put in that Strong Bad ate a girl, people are going to jump to the wrong idea.

1: He wasn't eating the girl, he was trying to make out with the girl on the piece of paper, not eat her. 2: How is making out "R-rated"? [[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]] 21:07, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

It's certainly not R-rated or 99% of the films ever made would be R-rated! However it certainly is a move to ever so slightly more "adult" material which along with the "teen pregnant" line in Commandos in the Classroom probably constitues a change in TBC's writing style, probably in recognition of the fact that there's no question of their writing for kids anymore. [[User:131.111.250.142|131.111.250.142]] 22:19, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

People, he is making out with paper. I think that we are being critical saying that the TBC is moving toward an R rated site. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 22:24, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

:I agree with Rogue Leader here. TBC are using humor, as they always do. Making out with/eating paper was intended to be funny, and nothing about it that I can notice is R rated. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 03:38, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

::If there was nudity (which, this site being family-friendly, there is not any), ''then'' it would be '''R'''-rated. This does not even come ''close'' to being R-rated! {{User:gwr2004/sig}} 03:58, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh, for God's sake. He's KISSING a girl. Not even a real girl! Can you imagine the devestating effect on little kids if they see that?!! Or even on us! Most of the Wiki are in their teens, so we all understand what sex is and in some cases, what it's like, and a lot of kids our age are constantly talking and joking about it at school, and yet we all complain about REAL tiny things, and run out the room screaming for mommy when Strong Bad says "make out". Jeez, guys. This is why I don't visit the Wiki much anymore. The people on the Weebl and Bob forums aren't like this. [[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]]

:That's a generalization, and it's not valid. Besides, who are you people arguing with? Everyone after the initial "R-rated" suggestion is saying the same thing: namely, that the suggestion was wrong. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:00, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

The eating a girl was obviously a joke since he popped the paper into his mouth with a picture of a girl on it, and by the way, lets not forget there is plenty of nudity, lets not forget the shower main page, homestar's butt dance, the alien dude in the shower in that 1 flash with coach with a bare butt(ugh, you made me member that ass)

It's not exactly Strong Bad making out with modestly hot The Ugly One, remember. It's extremely buffed animated Strong Bad. Sure, it's the first instance of him making out with ''something'' (the piece of paper). But I think that the first instance of him making out with a real character or something would be more notable. Teen Girl Squad isn't real, since it is drawn and usually voiced completely by Strong Bad. He was making out with the paper to make his scene more "realistic." [[User: Teh_Frossty_One]]

== Accents ==

Possible goof - when one of the three scotsmen speaks (to say 'BAGH! Only 23 metres!), he's speaking with an irish accent.

What? I think that it's Scottish. Plus, corn is no place for a mighty warrior! --{{User:The 386/sig}} 23:40, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

:People do that often (try to do a Scottish accent and wind up Irish). What we hear here is only a rough approximation hinting at a vaguely British-Isles accent. But please see the definition of [[HRWiki:Standards#Goofs|a goof]] (also linked just a little way up the page). A goof is not when TBC fail to meet our expectations; it's when they fail to meet ''theirs''. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:56, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh, man! What would the accents mean? I am just concerned. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 15:51, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:''Mean''? Um, are you being ironic? If so, I agree, it's not a big deal. If not... um, they don't "mean" anything. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:46, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

What the crud? Oh, if you said that I'm being ironic, then you're right, I am being ironic. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 22:33, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

==Special-Olympics Man?==

So... is the Olympics Man an amputee or what? I see no stick hands... -[[User:B|B]] 06:43, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Did you just say amputee? I think you're being ironic. But, yes, he's an amputee. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 13:25, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Not really sure how that question has anything to do with irony, but is that worth mentioning (probably as a note in the transcript), or is it too obvious? I'm thinking that since I had to ask, someone else will, too. -[[User:B|B]] 06:04, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Okay, it's become ''abundantly'' clear that it's going to be mentioned in one category. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 15:04, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, the third Scottish men has no hands, yet he is clearly able to hold his glass. Maybe the olympic man has really muscular hands, like him. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:09, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

What did you say? Oh, wait, you said that one of the Scots had muscled hands like the olympics man. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 15:22, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, maybe the Olympics guy's arm muscles are so ripped that they've enveloped his hands! Or made his wrists indiscernible, anyway. :) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:07, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right, I'm just ironic. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 19:08, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

==Sweet DuffTeen?==
Why is Hilary Duff being insulted due to Sweet Someteen via Ugly One? (Sweet Sixteen reference) Also, there's MTV and Billy Idol feelin' down BECAUSE of that horrible reference/insult. RHRN
:I'm thinking "Sweet Someteen" is simply a way to avoid saying how old the girls are (something that's been hotly debated). Now, the part about Billy Idol feeling down: are you talking about something in the toon, or some bit of news I haven't heard? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:06, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
::Billy Idol made a song called "Sweet Sixteen" as well. - Lord-z.

Ask ol' Tommy that question, seeing as HE put it in the Wikipedia, not me. Oh, and tell him I'm a Hilary Duff fan who thinks she's HAWT and shouldn't be insulted even by [[The Brothers Chaps]]. RHRN
: What does Hillary Duff have to do with ANY of this? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:23, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Hmm... she made a song called Sweet Sixteen describing EVERY DETAIL about being sixteen years old. The Brothers Chaps were likely to have collected the detail and reverse it for the effect of Sweet Someteen...and Jay is...ARROWED!!! RHRN the Jigglypuff
: "Sweet sixteen" is a common phrase; in fact, there is a song called "Happy Birthday Sweet Sixteen" that was written before Ms. Duff was even born. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:27, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:And easy on the personal comments. If Miss Duff herself reported being offended by it, that would be fairly noteworthy; if TBC said in a commentary or interview they had her in mind it would be a solid connection—but if "Sweet Sixteen" is the only connection, there isn't much to go on. (And frankly, I doubt TBC would go out of their way to insult her; their references tend to be reserved for pre-1995 cultural phenomena, and are seldom truly ''insulting''.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:32, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
My personal comments can only be commented by [[User:Tom]]! TBC might've accidentally gotten the info from Hilary Duff. I'm not a doofus. By the way...Yami Yugi was AFTER 1995,scalawag! They had a reference to a deserted island which was 1997! RHRN the Jigglypuff
:Right. ''Tend''. By personal comments, I meant "arrowing" Jay. (Who's Tom?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:57, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Tom is the creator of this Wikipedia! He is Exodia the Forbidden One incarnate! RHRN

:I think RHRN means [[User:Tom]]. And the word is "Wiki", not "Wikipedia". Wiki refers to a knowledge base anyone can edit, and [[Wikipedia:|Wikipedia]] refers to a giant online encyclopedia anyone can edit. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:01, 16 October 2005 (BST)

I was talking about how [[TBC]] are making fun of Hilary Duff with the Sweet Someteen reference to sweet sixteen. RHRN

:I'm not sure how else to say that I find it very unlikely. Unless whatever you mentioned about Billy Idol on Wikipedia (which as Venusy was saying, is a different website; we use the same software, but aren't really affiliated) has more proof, then I really don't think there's anything to be indignant about. Perhaps you could link to the Wikipedia article you have in mind? Otherwise, I think we can all agree that Hilary Duff's honor has been defended. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:11, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Are you sure? (He takes Gravity-Axe Grarl, the weapon, from his left pocket and pokes at all who respond) Don't make me get you...ARROWED II..ELECTRUC BOOGALOO!!!! [[RHRN]] the Jigglypuff.

Hilary Duff DID NOT invent the term sweet sixteen! It was around before she was born! There is absolutely no reason to believe that "Sweet Someteen" is a reference to the song. -[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]]

:Exhibit A: I think we've covered the topic pretty thoroughly. Further discussion isn't really needed. RHRN: These Talk pages are for serious discussion of proposed changes to the wiki. Which we've now done. Any further, chat-type discussion is best on the [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:19, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Why don't we let Exhibit B take care of this! Sweet Sometten is possibly a reference to Hilary Duff and I won't give up until we defend her honour surely! RHRN the Jiugglypuff

:You're never required to "give up," RHRN. I can think of at least one sysop who was unhappy with a fact that was voted into existence; it's his right to still disagree with it. But what appears on the main pages is the result of majority agreement. In the meantime, I strongly suggest that you avoid what could sound like insults or challenging language to other users. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:30, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:: *ACHOO!* Huh? What? Did someone say something about nickels and Family Guy? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::LOL; in tactful allusion, yes. It abides as a testimony to the deocratic functioning of a wiki, with its drawbacks, as well as appropriate ways to express unresolved disagreement without revert wars or sulking, OR "giving up." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:21, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Gee...I summon Exhibit B in Attack Mode. It can't attack until I find out about the Sweet Someteen insult to Hilary Duff, even if it wasn't done on purpose. Unleash the proof! RHRN the Jigglypuff

:I still don't understand why it's an insult. A reference possibly, although at a severe stretch. It still stands that the phrase "Sweet Sixteen" was around long before Hillary Duff, and facts with features like this normally get voted down unanimously on [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:30, 16 October 2005 (BST)

Exhibit B shall be equipped with Gravity Axe-Grarl! Give me more information, or I shall attack your Life Points directly! RHRN the Jigglypuff

:RHRN, please stick to serious discussion or move the discussion to the forum. And the burden of proof is on you; I suggest you either provide a link to the Wikipedia article you mentioned or some other supporting material, or end this discussion. Also, by the way: unless 1) Hillary Duff was actually offended, or 2) TBC meant to reference her, then the only person actually offended was ''you''. An unintended "insult" that Hillary Duff either never heard about or wasn't hurt by, therefore, is... well, nothing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:48, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

And now...I sacrifice Exhibit B to Tribute Summon Final Verdict, Tom must now decide on this because he made this Wiki! Muahahahahahahaha RHRN the Jigglypuff
:There's no need to drag Tom into this. It's already been turned down by several other respected users, and I'm sure Tom would say the same things they did. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:Actually, the Wiki community normally gives the verdict, normally with a [[HRWiki:Administrators|sysop]] just relaying back the results. And what do you have against Exhibit A and DorianGray? That ''could'' be considered a personal attack, which is something you could get blocked for. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:55, 16 October 2005 (BST)

:I'm no longer sure, RHRN, whether you're still seriously discussing or whether you're just editing for the fun of it. That's called trolling, and if I were a sysop you ''would'' be banned by now. It's time to find a different way to contribute to the wiki; maybe check out [[HRWiki:The Stick]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:00, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
:(After edit conflicts): Aand that didn't help. Since I can't block you, I will take the liberty of removing your offensive remark. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:01, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

I attack a random troll by using this AbdiViklas Upgrade Ritual! I offer all these responders and Final Verdict to Ritual Summon AbdiViklas Anti-Troll the Not-dNd Duffman!(ATK/Infinity DEF/Infinity) RHRN The Zerg Jigglypuff

Now...I shall wait...for Tom. RHRN

A few things: first, could you rationally explain why you assume that "Sweet Someteen" a reference to the Hilary Duff song, let alone an insult? If you want this fact in, at least try to make a case for it, instaed of just insisting that it's an insult and spamming stupid stuff about Yu-Gi-Oh. Second, Tom did not make the wiki [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] did. —[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 22:31, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Well...JoeyDay and Tom should be here (Looks at his clock) by now. RHRN

how is hilary duff's sweet sixteen song even linked to sweet someteen?
this is the dumbest conversation ever!-[[User:Timmy!]]

Well, it does sound familiar, but it is as easily doubtful as it is possible. Now, let's STUFF this. The message RHRN was trying to convey, before you guys attacked him unreasonably, was that his assumption seems possible with evidence. [[User:Yata-Garasu|Yata-Garasu]] 22:07, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

:What's STUFFable? "Sweet Sixteen" is a phrase from way, way back. Unless we have some proof that they were referring to her song, it's a stretch. As we don't, we must assume it's a play on a common phrase, which is not notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:10, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

::[[Wikipedia:Sweet Sixteen|Sweet Sixteen]] is everywhere! And [[Wikipedia:Sweet sixteen (birthday)|this one]] is most likely what they're referencing. And, I still don't see how it is an insult. Normally, references are compliments unless directly insulted. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 22:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

== Nick-at-Nite vs. Nick-at-Night ==
TGS10 references "Nick-at-Night" a misspelling of "Nick-at-Nite", which I think is worthy of a remark or a goof in the article. The current article corrects the spelling without mention of the mistake. -Komo
:You know, you're right! I've just noted it in the article. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:09, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::Good job Komo, but in the future, feel free to change that yourself. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:47, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

== Anorexic Girl squad? ==

The "let's get ready to eat NO FOOD!" comment might state that theyr'e anorexic, and not eating. sould I place a remark or explanation? --[[User:Benol|Coach B]] 20:38, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
: I don't think you should. Look at the food! It's a pile of corn. I wouldn't eat that. -{{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}}

:I think it's a reference to the fact that a lot of junior high and high school kids think it's not cool to eat lunch at school. At least, this happened in my school. Most of us would just get a roll and hang out in the courtyard. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:03, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
::No, you shouldn't mention it in the article. But I gotta say I was a little disturbed by it. We're really hitting the heavy subjects here; first teen pregnancy then peer-induced anorexia, then the unnerving age gap of Strong Bad (whatever his age is) and a someteen-year-old making out... (Note: the above mention of teen pregnancy is not intended to restart the amusingly earnest discussion of its putative scandal. Nor do I want to start such a debate about anorexia. But it did disturb me.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:26, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Oh, Abdi. I like how you throw gasoline on the fire and then hope it doesn't explode. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:For what it's worth, What's Her Face ''does'' consider eating something else later in the 'toon (though she doesn't get much of a chance due to spinning and being LATHE'd.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:30, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
::You know, the last time we ''actually'' saw them eating anything, they were MSG'd; maybe this is simply a reactive response. Though since then, So And So has expressed the willingness to accept a Lunchables or a juice box. Also, though we don't know whether they ate it or not, we ''do'' recall that day when lunch was a breadtangle of pizza, making this the second time their appetites have been thwarted by capriciously-themed school lunches contrary to the natural order of things. (It is What's Her Face who underscores that pizza belongs in a triangle—but, unless it had a soy-based imitation cheese topping, it is unlikely that she, as a vegan, would have eaten it in either shape.) In conclusion, between corn chips, corn-and-corn-alone, Lunchables with juice, and chocolate bars dipped in salt, it is safe to assume that a suitable foodstuff may be found for each of the Teen Girls, and we may tentatively ascribe their hunger strike to culinary imagination gone amok rather than to insecurities of image. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:51, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

==American vs. British==

Is it worthy of some reference that when the Scottsmen speak, '''meters''' is spelled '''metres''', the spelling in every other English-speaking country outside of the US? ~Isaac Smith
:Well, the Scotsmen are Scottish, I assume. Scotland is an English-speaking country outside the US, I believe. I'm guessing that's where it comes from. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Vowel Obstruction ===
{{stufffact|When Cheerleader and So And So took the vowels out of words, they left in '''Y''', which is sometimes considered a vowel.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)|04:17, 25 October 2005 (UTC)|declined|21|9|Teen Girl Squad Issue 10}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Free Comics, USA ===
{{stufffact|This is the first Teen Girl Squad issue to take us outside the paper and into the regular Homestar Runner universe.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:12, 12 October 2005 (UTC)|12:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|24|6|Teen Girl Squad Issue 10}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Electric Ozone ===
{{stufffact|"Arrow'd 2: Electric-" also alludes to Strong Bad's Ozone (from Breakin' and Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo) [[Halloween_Costumes#3_Times_Halloween_Funjob_.282003.29|costume]] in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].}}
{{stuffverdict|23:22, 10 October 2005 (UTC)|23:46, 12 October 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|20|1|Teen Girl Squad Issue 10}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Blue is a reference to the sky ===
{{stufffact|"Olympic Race" is a reference to Homestar's list on The Show.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:38, 10 October 2005 (UTC)|23:46, 12 October 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|22|0|Teen Girl Squad Issue 10}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Different Voices ===
{{stufffact|This is the first time a voice beside Strong Bad's has been used in the comic (the coach's).}}
{{stuffverdict|01:08, 11 October 2005 (UTC)|05:39, 11 October 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined (patently false)|10|0|Teen Girl Squad Issue 10}}

== ARROWED vs. ARROW'D ==

I corrected the spelling to ARROWED but was promptly reverted. Please don't revert a change without first researching it! Watch the toon and you will see that the page says "ARROWED II". — [[User:Bill|Bill]] 22:09, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
:Nice catch. I guess you proved how sometimes we jump too fast to conclusions, eh? The funny thing is we even have it spelt ARROWED II on the [[Arrow'd Guy]] page. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Well, with all the crap you guys must have to revert every day, a bit of gun-jumping now and then is certainly understandable — especially since I'm new and haven't established a reputation as a trustworthy editor yet. And it doesn't help matters that we're stuck with the "official" inconsistency of ARROWED! vs. Arrow'd Guy. — [[User:Bill|Bill]] 03:42, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

:::Or the fact that such things are usually spelled with a "'d" rather than an "ed" in TGS (for example, "MSG'd!" or "CEREBELLUM'd!"). "Arrowed" is kind of an anomaly in that respect, but it is how it was spelled in TGS. --[[User:Shippinator Mandy|Shippinator Mandy]] 22:08, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

== Strong... Bad...? ==

Near the end, I think Strong Mad and Strong Sad say "Strong..." "Bad...?" instead of "Uh..."s. Anyone agree with me on this? [[User:Kiyobi|Kiyobi]] 02:03, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
: I don't think so. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:17, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that it's at least not an "Uh..." coming from Strong Sad. Listen to it a couple of times, it might get to you. Or not. -[[User:Kiyobi|Kiyobi]] 02:38, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:I already did. It doesn't sound a thing like "Bad". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:10, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Really? Well, nobody's perfect, I guess. I still think he's saying "Bad?" -[[User:Kiyobi|Kiyobi]] 06:17, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:Well, I'm Nobody. And I'm pretty sure they aren't using the consonants necessary to form the words "Strong" or "Bad". Nobody, aka {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:20, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

== Increased workload ==

In the DVD commentary, the brothers mention that this episode took roughly 80% longer to animate than the others due to the higher framerate (20 fps instead of the normal 12 fps). But, all things being equal, and extra 8 fps would amount to only about a 67% increase in work. (e.g., A cartoon that takes 60 minutes to make at 12 fps would take 100 minutes at 20 fps.) Maybe the extra 13% of the time went to colorization. ''(The preceding comment was originally posted as a fun fact by {{user|66.220.96.135}}.)''

== Mighty Warrior ==

I don't get the mighty warrior... and I can't find out what it means? What's the meaning or the joke there?
: TGS is quite random; probably not a reference. [[User:Blendage|Blendage]] 16:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

== Or something like that ==

In the manoleo easter egg at the end, Manoleo talks alot like Strong Bad does when he's doing an e-mail, at least as far as interjecting "or something like that" as I recall Strong Bad occasionally doing. Maybe this could be a Remark?

(Side note: grrr the HRWiki CAPCHA sucks)
--[[User:64.195.243.2|64.195.243.2]] 06:12, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

:Well, Strong Bad is doing the voice, so it's really not remarkable that it sounds like him. (Side note: mass vandalism sucks worse.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

== Scooby Doo reference... ==

I tried putting this under "Real World References" a couple times, and it was deleted... I don't know why, because it's obvious! The Ugly One's "new look" is exactly like Velma's new look in "Scooby Doo 2". Same hair, same outfit.
:Right, and it's not even a ''little'' bit like ''She's All That'' (see also above). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

What're you talking about? Velma wore a sweater and a seperate skirt: at her sweet someteen birthday bash, The Ugly One wore a one piece party dress. Velma wore plain plastic rimmed glasses: The Ugly One wore thin horn-rimmed. Velma had what looked like bowl haircut, while The Ugly One had straight shoulder-length hair. Where can I get the stuff you're smoking?--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 05:13, 19 October 2006 (UTC) 
:I think he's referring to something with the live-action movies. Specifically, the second one. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::A few images of the new hot Velma: (It doesn't show, but I think I remember her wearing pants in the film)
::http://www.nonsporttradingcards.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/SD2-PW12.gif http://www.themoviemark.com/images/scooby_velma.gif
::And of The Hotgly One:
::[[Image:Modestly hot the ugly one.png|300px]]
::Also note: Red leather is considered sexy and was worn by name other people in order to look hot. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:09, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I don't know much about STUFF, but can I STUFF this or not? - {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 23:46, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't see a good reason to do so. It's been demonstrated above that there are other things to which it more likely refers (if any), and the Scooby Doo similarity is not that strong. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:11, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

== Get in on like Diddy Kong ==

I keep getting the feeling that the line is a play on the line "Get it on like Donkey Kong" from the country song Honky Tonk Ba Donk-A-Donk. Which, mind you, I hate if only for the fact that the song was terrible AND I can't get the horrid tune or lyrics out of my head, BUT! I thought it would be of interest to point it out. *shrug* Possible Real-World reference?
: It's been said outside of that song before. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:27, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
::Where? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

== Did they just call the big mouth guy Mr. Pitters??? ==

in the DVD commentary, they apparently call the big-mouth guy Mr. Pitters. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 23:37, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== Bowser ==

A while back, I remember changing this page to read that Bowser does not appear in a TRADITIONAL game for the black-and-white Game Boy (it originally said he did not appear in ANY game for it), because he appears in Game and Watch Gallery. Now that I think about it, since that's the case, should the fun fact remain at all?

*Yes, because in the Game & Watch games there's no way he'd be "on the ropes". [[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 13:53, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

== Crinkly Paper ==
While I realize that they're using a jpeg of paper for the background, is it still possible that it's a reference? And even if it's not, it is still noteworthy, yes? {{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 01:57, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:Possible, yes. Likely... well, not as much. Noteworthy? Meh, seems like a stretch to me. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:47, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

== Old and Busted References? ==
How is "New hotness" not listed as a reference to Men in Black 2? A part of the quote from Jay is (the whole thins isn't G appropriate) "Old and busted, new hotness." Since "New hotness" isn't exactly a common phrase (definately not in this context) I figure that's a reference. It's not the first movie reference in this toon. I guess this is old, but should this be added/disscussed/STUFF'd? --Barakku
:Hmm, I'd never noticed that before. The context isn't the same, but it might be a good catch. Google returns 197,000 sites for "new hotness". Not sure how many are MIB or HR related. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 05:00, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

SBCG4AP Gameplay Trailer

ComputerBox — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:55:40 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Fun Facts */

{{about|gameplay trailer for [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]]}} ''The article about the [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Advertisement|advertisement]] for the game has a similar title.''
[[Image:SBCG4AP Gameplay Trailer title.png|thumb|"It's like an adventure!"]]

The gameplay trailer for ''[[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]]''.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Coach Z}}

'''Places:''' [[Strong Bad's Basement]]

'''Date:''' Thursday, April 10, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 2:00

==Transcript==

''{As an arrangement of the Old Intro music plays, the screen reads "Telltale Games presents: An all-new cool game for attractive people." Static appears. Cut to Homestar, wearing a brown wig, shaking a TV remote around in Strong Bad's basement. Throughout the entire trailer, the characters speak haltingly and with little enthusiasm, as bad actors.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aw man, this dang ol' remote control can only change the channels and make everybody speak Spanish.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' Why not try this one?

''{Cut to the entrance of the basement where Strong Bad is seen wearing a blond wig and holding a Wii remote. The Cheat appears next to him}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What's that? ''{Strong Bad walks over to him. The Cheat jumps onto the couch}'' A futuristic candy bar?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Almost. ''{swaying his hips}'' Check it out!

''{He starts waving the remote as clips from the game are shown. Clips include Strong Bad looking under a box, playing [[Snake Boxer 5]], checking emails, and kicking The Cheat into the washing machine.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oooo. What game is that? The candy bar game?

''{Cut back to the basement.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's "''Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People''"! ''{Close-up on Strong Bad}'' But you can play too!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Voice over more clips from the game}'' Strong Bad, but this game seems to have all the cool characters from "homestarrunner.com".

''{Cut back to Strong Bad in the basement}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right. And even the lame ones.

''{Cut to a clip from the game where Coach Z is in the locker room}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{crying}'' Go, go away!

''{Cut back to the basement.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{waving the remote around}'' I'm pointing, I'm clicking. It's like an adventure. ''{Crickets start chirping, Homestar smirks a bit}''

''{Cut to clips of the game where Strong Bad runs through various locations}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Voice-over}'' You'll go to all the cool places we go in the cartoons -

''{Cut back to the basement. Close-up on Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' - in five totally awesome monthly episodes! ''{Jumps in the air}''

''{Close-up on Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Five episodes? Where do I buy them ats?

''{Cut to Strong Bad walking into the computer room. The Cheat appears under the table}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's the best part, Hom...star. ''{Placing his hands on his hips}'' It's WiiWare!

''{Cut to a crudely-drawn version of the Wii menu. Homestar pops up in front of it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' WiiWare!

''{Cut back to the computer room}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So you download them over your internet-style connection! ''{The Cheat points to the outlet where the Lappy is plugged in.}''

''{Close up on Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Get out of town! What are we waiting for?

''{Close up on Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' June of 2008!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I got so excited, I forgot everything you just said!

''{Cut to Strong Bad in front of the blue area from the beginning}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' "''Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People''!"

''{Cut to Homestar, standing in front of the same background as the intro screen from the website}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Featuring Homestar Runner!

''{Cut to The Cheat in front of a green background with "the cheat" written on it.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to the three of them standing in the blue background where the game's logo appears on the left.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up. Five adventure-packed action-sodes. Available this summer. Only on WiiWare.

''{A red box reading "and on PC" is slapped on the logo. A chomping noise is heard. Cut back to Homestar sitting on the couch tossing a bitten Wii remote aside.}

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, Strong Bad. I think we're gonna need more candy bars.

==Fun Facts==
[[Image:Snakeboxer5.jpg|thumb|right|''Snake Boxer V'']]

===Explanations===
*The channels on the scribbled Wii Menu seen behind Homestar are (first row) the Disc Channel, the Mii Channel, the Photo Channel, the Wii Shop Channel, (second row) the News Channel, and the Forecast Channel.

===Goofs===
*Coach Z's eyes are very bright in his gameplay footage, to the point of being invisible on some displays.

===Inside References===
*The music that plays during the first set of gameplay footage is the music from [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].
*Strong Bad mentions his "internet-[[style]] connection".
*Strong Bad called Homestar "Homstar", a reference to calling [[Homsar]] Homestar and vice versa.
*During gameplay footage Strong Bad throws a box of [[Minor Foods#Temporarios|Temporarios]] at Strong Sad.
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads [[Peasant's_Quest|"P.Quest"]].
*During the clips of Strong Bad running through various locations, the background music is an arrangement of the music in [[Senor Mortgage]].
*Homestar's pronunciation of "WiiWare" is similar to that of his pronunciation of "Email" on the [[Main Pages]].
*When Homestar and Strong Bad are in the computer room, the email on the screen seems to be the same one from the [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Advertisement|advertisement]].
*Homestar biting the Wii remote is another instance of [[Eating Non-Food Items]].

===Real World References===
*The graphics on the boxing arcade game that Strong Bad plays (''Snake Boxer V'') strongly resemble the graphics on [http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html?SoftwareID=882 ''Boxing''] for the [[Atari 2600]].

==External Links==
*[http://www.telltalegames.com/strongbad/trailer View the gameplay trailer for Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]
*[http://www.telltalegames.com/images/flash/strongbad_gameplay_trailer.swf View the Flash file for the gameplay trailer for Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]
*[[youtube:ULy-1us8p1U|Watch the gameplay trailer for Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People on YouTube]]

{{SBCG4AP}}

[[Category: Shorts]]

Talk:SBCG4AP Advertisement

ComputerBox — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:36:31 GMT

ComputerBox: /* AdVERtisement */

== NES poster ==

Man, there are so many awesome Inside References in this! Temporarios, Suge Brown, the plaques from [[no loafing]], and the Videlectrix poster in the stairwell is a parody of [http://trsrockin.com/images/powerposter.jpg this NES poster]! I probably have 15 of those in a box somewhere :D {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

:Here they are, side by side. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:17, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:VidelectrixPoster.png|162px]][[Image:NES poster Now You're Playing With Power.jpg|140px]]
::As a side-note, the poster depicted above, and the one Trey linked to, are actually different. Most notably to me, being a longtime RPG fan, the middle left side of Trey's picture shows Dragon Warrior and Faxanadu, while the one in the comparison shot has Metroid and Kid Icarus. Interesting... -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:48, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I noticed that too... my guess is that there are a bunch of variants with different games. I should see if I have any ones that are different... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
:::At that, does anyone know which games are depicted on the Videlectrix poster? I can see [[Secret Collect.]], [[StrongBadZone]] and [[RhinoFeeder]], and [[Thy Dungeonman]] in the upper left... [[Thy Dungeonman II]] and [[Thy Dungeonman 3]] on the upper right, and I think I see [[Pigs on Head]] in the lower left corner... any others? -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:52, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

All right, I got it now...

Upper left corner:
[[Secret Collect.]], [[StrongBadZone]], [[RhinoFeeder]]
[[Thy Dungeonman]], [[50k Racewalker]]

Upper right corner:
[[Thy Dungeonman 3]], [[Thy Dungeonman II]]

Middle left:
[[Duck Guardian One]]
[[Duck Guardian 2]], [[Pigs on Head]]

Middle right:
[[Planet Alert]], [[Hallrunner]]

Lower left:
[[Spaceshipper]] (?), [[Stinkoman]] (forgot the actual name)

I think that's all of them... -{{User:YK/sig}}

== 404'd, or not ready? ==

Whoever made the edit of "not yet active," was it just 404'd? I'd like to put that in Trivia if it was, because it exists now, but only with a message. --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 21:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

== MiiWare ==

Should "MiiWare" be a considerable reference to Miis? --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 21:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
: Actually, for all we know, Strong Bad meant Me-Ware, not Mii-Ware. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:44, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:: I like the Me-Ware guess so much it makes me wonder if he really said Me-Where. --[[User:Interdigital|Interdigital]] 23:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== Title Change? ==

In the TV Time Toons Menu, it's listed under "SBCG4AP," just like the HTML file for it. Should we move the article when we get the transcript done? --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 21:45, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:Telltale Games' website also calls the video by that name, so I would support a move. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 16:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think that's a good idea. The title as it is is descriptive, and explains its relationship to the forthcoming game. By contrast, the abbreviated title is not very descriptive, and likely only appears on the toons page because this one is too long. Keep where it is. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:07, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
:::The article's current title also makes it ridiculously easy to get it and [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Gameplay Trailer]] mixed up. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Hence the disambiguation. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:58, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'd say that things would get more confusing if this article was moved, as SBCG4AP is given in this toon as the abbreviation for the game itself, and thus would serve more use as a redirect to the game page instead of as a new home for this one. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 19:29, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::I agree 100%: SBCG4AP is being used everywhere as the abbreviation for the game, so that page should redirect to the game, and this article should not be moved there. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:53, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Could we compromise and move it to [[SBCG4AP Advertisement]]? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 12:58, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:That's a reasonable idea, and it would also make the title easier to read at a glance. If we do that, we should also move the gameplay trailer to [[SBCG4AP Gameplay Trailer]], I think. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:18, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== Rabid dog? ==

I hear "rabbit dog", not "rabid dog" as one of the Real World Refs calls it. On second though, we should probably wait until the transcript is done. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 21:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:Funny, I hear that too. But I'm not sure it makes enough sense to put down. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
::I think it does. Sam is way more of a "rabbit" dog (a hybrid of a rabbit and a dog, with his vaguely bunnyish ears) than a "rabid" dog. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 21:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Ooh, insider information; it's "rabbit dog": [http://telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4875&page=2]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:27, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I think the "Rabbitdog and Bunnyman" part may be intended as a reference to the 80's alternative band, Echo & The Bunnymen. It would also justify his pronunciation of Bunnyman as "Bunnym'n"

== Glitch? ==

Is this thing playing choppy on anyone else's computers as well? It's still funnier than rated though. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
*What parts are choppy? Or is it just occasional? --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 22:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:I didn't notice any glitchy problems, but I did notice a big increase in the frame rate. {{User:Super Turtle/sig}} 22:19, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

:This swf is streaming off of our (Telltale's) CDN instead of TBC's servers since the whole thing is pretty big. It may be that it was the increased size that sabotaged you.
::You're not alone. The trailer constantly stutters on my computer, especially when Homestar turns up. (''"A-w m-a-n, t-hi-s d-an-g ol-' re-mo-t-e c-o-nt-r-ol..."'') Once again, I point the blame squarely at the server. If this is the case, then all we can do is come back later and try again. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:24, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Plus, if you look at your statusbar closely, the preloader doesn't preload the whole movie before the movie starts. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
::::Ok, since the movie plays before the entire trailer is finished loading, I've found a solution to the stuttering: start the trailer, then turn off your speakers and do something else for five minutes. Once the trailer has finally loaded and played through once, go back and play the trailer again. Because the movie has been temporarily downloaded and stored in the computer's memory, it should now play smoothly. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

== What dimension? ==

I'm actually not listening right now, as now isn't an opportune time, but wouldn't it make more sense for Strong Bad to give the "3 Ds" as "'''''Depth''''', Dimension, and Dumb idiots"? Or at least something that begins with a D? "Yeah" seems out of context. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:Corrected. It didn't make much sense, but I had trouble hearing that - now you say "Depth" it makes perfect sense and sounds right. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 22:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

== SOOOOOOOOOOoo fast! ==

Is it just me, or did the things in this "commercial" move faster than most homestar stuff?
:Yes, things seem to move "faster" due to the higher framerate as stated in the Trivia section. I only wish they would use this all the time. Looks so much better. Probably requires a lot more work though. {{User:Joshr915/sig}} 05:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

::Yep. TBC have talked about this in interviews 'n stuff. [[Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007]] comes to mind; here's a quote from that:
<blockquote>
'''MIKE:''' Um, and that's how we learned to animate, so we have rarely...done a few things at 18 or 24 frames a second, and of course it takes us way longer, so we, we stick with 12.
</blockquote>
::Good thing to watch if you haven't watched it already. And as far as I'm concerned, they can keep doing it at 12 if it means a new cartoon just about every week (as they mention in that public appearance). {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:24, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I would definitely rather have faster updates than faster framerates {{User:Joshr915/sig}} 08:11, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Agreed with Joshr915. I'd love faster updates too. Although with faster framerates, it means tweens/etc. have to be on the movie set for longer. When you lower the framerate, they don't have to be on as long. I think it may have something to do with the fact that TBC wants to not have their movies over a certain filesize too. More frames means bigger size. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

== They're not serious, are they? ==

...are they? --{{User:Haldo/sig}} 23:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:We're totally serious :) --[[User:Tabacco|Tabacco]] 23:14, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
::Wow! {{User:Haldo/sig}}

== Let me guess...==

...some really late and meticulous April Fools day prank? {{unsigned|Del20nd|00:33, 11 April 2008}}

:I really don't understand why you people don't understand reality is reality. This is '''REAL''', and it is '''REALLY''' going to happen. They have the press release, which states it's real. TBC have contributed, and TellTale games went to a lot of freakin' trouble makin' this, I'm going to guess. TBC didn't make those graphics by themselves, and one company wouldn't go to that much trouble putting what I'm guessing was around about 3-6 months into just making 3d graphics and screenshots, pages on their official website, etc., for like, 2 cartoons about 3 minutes long a piece. If this isn't real, than somebody call me cap'n of the gravy train, and shoot me hard with a water-pistol. Not that that would hurt anyway, but still: THIS WILL HAPPEN. I guarantee it. [[User:DevonM|DevonM]] 00:39, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

::As will I :) --[[User:Tabacco|Tabacco]] 00:44, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

::it's an ok argument, DevonM, except those people went into a lot of freaking effort for that "legend of zelda" movie trailer, and ''that's'' not going anywhere (really wish it was, though) --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman (Neumannz)]] 03:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

::But there's also the fact that... um... IT'S NOT APRIL FIRST. Seriously, this is why I hate the internet and magazines with regard to April Fool's Day, you start getting accusations of early jokes and late jokes, and people posting stuff later on thinking it's true, causing other people to think it's true until they find out the source... Jokes should only be ON April 1st. So no, this is real. -[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 03:42, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

On a second note, you an clearly see the game "Coming soon" in the wii games on the games page. [[User:F123979|F123979]]
:ya, not to mention I've already seen this on a billion news blogs already. Should be sweet and extra real :P

== Real email? ==

Hrm, was just wondering.. is this a real email, or did TBC/Telltale make it up for the purposes of the ad? I guess the same will go for the emails in the game itself, since the trailer shows that you'll be able to see some. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 00:52, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:We don't know, and we can only speculate - especially about the in-game emails. I'm assuming that the email from this ad is made-up, since it says that this is not a real sbemail.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:03, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
::According to [http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=62067&postcount=5 this Telltale Games forums post], all emails in the game will be made up for legal reasons. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 11:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

::: Since you all probably missed the e-mail song at the beginning (I'm assuming this by the way the discussion is going) but strong bad himself says he's checking e-mails for money. Meaning Tell Tale Games paid him to do it, which is true. Because if you make an advertisement, you must pay the actors that appear in it. Although you can always force the actors to be listed as "volunteers." I don't think that's fair though. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
::::Uh...Iyeru, most sbemail songs aren't actually relevant to the email itself. I don't know off the top of my head if there's another sbemail that has a reference to him "being paid" to check emails, but I'm sure there's probably one somewhere. And you don't have to pay the actors, its usually just standard to do so. {{User:DevonM/sig}}

==Strong Bad's House==
Forgive me if one of these already exists but... Someone should study that toon and create a layout of Strong Bad's house. Well, at least as complete a diagram as possible with the rooms he showed. {{User:Joshr915/sig}} 05:51, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:Seeing the trailer, I think the layout we saw here is actually going to in-game. (This is just a speculation) I think we shouldn't rush off, since if we wait we can just play the game, and that will be much easier. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 07:38, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
::If his whole house is in the game that would definitely be easier, ya. {{User:Joshr915/sig}} 08:12, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

:I also believe the DVDs outline some of his house too. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

== Incorrect ==

The folloing remark:

The link at the end of the ad, "learn more at telltalegames.com", was inactive at first, and activated soon after the cartoon's release. Now, however, the link is not clickable at all, neither is the back button next to it. However, it is clickable in the Flash File.

...I believe isn't true. I have watched the toon on the website three times now, and the link to telltalegames.com works, as well as the back button. I am wanting to know what we should do with this knowledge. [[User:Andrewnuva199|Andrewnuva199]] 18:45, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:If that's the case, then I will add it to the article. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:07, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

:It still is unclickable for me, at least in Firefox 2.0.0.13. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
::Just checked. Although they highlight, they do not work for me. I am using IE 7. Not added to article after all. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:::It's possible that they used an swfLoader function/file onsite to load an offsite swf. If that's the case, it's no wonder the links won't work; we have this problem on [http://www.sheezyart.com SheezyART] a lot because of that. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

It's working fine for me, even though my iMac is incredably slow and makes this cartoon almost unwatchable. I think it should say that it works on some computers, since that's how it seems to be working. -Ben, who really needs an account here.

==A price?==

Mike and Matt already have my money, how much of it do you think they want? -NoAccount 20:22, 11 April 2008
:The [http://telltalegames.com/strongbad/faq FAQ] says it'll cost similar to their other episodic games... [http://www.telltalegames.com/store/samandmax which generally cost $9 each]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:23, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

== Greasemonkey Seekbar Errors? ==

Is anyone else finding it impossible to navigate this toon using the Greasemonkey seekbar script?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:23, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
:My theory is it is because the Flash file is hosted on another site. The seekbar attempts to work but fails. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:38, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
::Your theory is correct. If you host the Flash file and the HTML file on the same site, the seekbar works fine. It's just Flash's security at work... massively oversimplified, it boils down to "stuff from different sites can't interact"... JavaScript stuff, like the GM script, are treated by Flash as if they were part of the HTML page (because, for all it can tell, they ''could'' be)... which was served by www.homestarrunner.com. They're trying to interact with the SWF file, which comes from telltale.vo.llnwd.net. So they're different sites, and Flash severely limits what the JavaScript can access... it can read where the Flash movie is up to (so the seekbar works as a progress bar, subtitles should still work, etc), but you can't seek, or pause, or anything like that. There's not much I can do about it... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:54, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

== 3D Style ==

The 3D-Style shown throughout the advertisement looks similar to Google's Sketch-Up way of rendering by a lot. Is this notable? (If this were made in blender, it would have taken a long, long, long time to make it so simply.) {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:Although I have no clue if this is true or not, I remember reading something on the Telltale FAQ that they made all the stuff in what they call the "Telltale Tool". {{User:DevonM/sig}}
::Although I believe there's no downloads for that tool. You can see other places where they discuss it, like [http://www.adventuregamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14355 here] and maybe... [http://www.telltalearcade.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3381 here]. Seems it'll probably be purchase only though. So if I went into the 3D-business, I'd probably use Blender.org's tool. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

:::Correct. The Telltale Tool is our custom developed in-house game engine and development tool. We don't release it for download or purchase. The shipping versions of the game include a very stripped down version of the tool that contains only what is needed to run the game. Blender is something altogether different. For our modelling, we use Maya. — [[User:Tabacco|Tabacco]] ([[User talk:Tabacco|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tabacco|contribs]]) 18:42, 12 April 2008 (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

::::Once again, a non-free progrum. (See [http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=7635018 here]) I'm amazed that less progrums are free around the webs. -- (Iyeru-Guest)

:::::I'm not really sure why you're concerned that we use non-free software to make the game, but okay. If you desperately want a free copy of Maya fro some reason, you can grab the [http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=7639525 Personal Learning Edition] from their website to play with. But again, I'm not sure why it matters. We use Maya, the customer doesn't need it at all. — [[User:Tabacco|Tabacco]] ([[User talk:Tabacco|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tabacco|contribs]]) 21:26, 12 April 2008 (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

::::::All I want to know is how easy the Interface is, and how much effort you really are putting into it. So far, I'm not exactly pleased with what I see. Sure, it may be a fun game, but that doesn't mean it's going to go good for you. You're starting to sound rather selfish in my opinion. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

:::::::Man, at this point I'm not even sure what you're talking about. You're confusing the game engine and the tools we use to make the game with the game itself, and somehow confusing the tool used to model characters and environments with the game as well. Playing the game doesn't require that you own Maya, a copy of the Telltale Tool, or anything except the game. As I said before, you seem extremely determined not to buy the game, so I'm not sure why you keep raising a fuss over weird subjects. --[[User:Tabacco|Tabacco]] 22:53, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

:::::::What are you talking about Iyeru? You really make no sense whatsoever. Aren't they putting enough effort into it cause they aren't using free software? Are you afraid a too complicated interface makes the developer too selfish? "It may be a fun game, but that doesn't mean it's going to go good for you" sounds like a suggestion to drop the whole thing because... well, why really? Keep in mind that this is no random fangame made by someone with too much time on their hands, but a serious company that has developed several games and are officially working together with the brothers. — [[User:81.231.119.248|81.231.119.248]] ([[User talk:81.231.119.248|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/81.231.119.248|contribs]]) 22:47, 12 April 2008 (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

::::::::Ok, far be it for me to butt in here, but... if I'm reading into it what I think I am... is Iyeru complaining because the tools used to make the game aren't free? I... don't really get it. So, what, should we just not play video games unless the tools the developers use are freeware? Although not professionally, I *do* dabble in game creation myself, and I -- and I imagine the ones making *this* game -- would really prefer not to be judged by the tools I used to do so, but rather on the game itself and how fun/playable it is. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:06, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

===I'm Sorry ===

I'm sorry guys, my head's a little confused all day today, probably shouldn't have gone off at how I loathe non-free software so much. It isn't right to bring my problems to other communities like that. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

== AdVERtisement ==
The entry describing the pronunciation of "advertisement" doesn't need to be included. Strong Bad is pronouncing the word correctly. "AD-ver-TISE-ment" is a common error which has become so ubiquitous that it is often viewed as correct. It is analogous to foliage ("foil-age" instead of "fol-ee-age") or nuclear ("nuke-u-ler" instead of "new-clear"). Pronouncing a common word properly is not an inside reference. — [[User:99.254.79.96|99.254.79.96]] ([[User talk:99.254.79.96|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/99.254.79.96|contribs]]) 18:25, 13 April 2008 (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])
:Yeah, but its an inside reference because most people don't pronounce it "ad-ver-tis-ment". They pronounce it the other way. And I don't think that "advertisment" is the right way to pronounce it. Can you show some proof? [[User:DevonM|DevonM]] 18:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
::At least here in the States, AD-ver-TISE-ment is standard (see [http://www.bartleby.com/61/56/A0105600.html American Heritage Dictionary], [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/advertisement Merriam-Webster]). I understand the situation may be different in the Commonwealth countries, but as this is an American cartoon, we base remarks on US English practices. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I thought the same thing, actually - I wrote the transcript for this, but the first line was already there, and I originally removed the pronunciation 'stage direction' because it seemed perfectly normal to me, what with my being English. Since other people evidently found it worth remarking on, I guessed it was something to do with US pronunciation. Not sure how that happened though; "AD-ver-TISE-ment" sounds rather clumsy, like someone sounding out a word they'd not seen before, whereas "ad-VER-tis-ment" runs off the tongue better. Of course, I say "fol-ee-age" and "new-clear" (kind of.. "new-clee-ar"?) too.. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 02:05, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:::: Those two correspond to the spelling, though, so they're certainly right... Even in America. -[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 11:36, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

== Two stories.. orly? ==

"In HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS! and Sbemail 150?!?, the computer room was one floor up from the couch. However, Strong Bad descends two sets of stairs to get to the couch, making it two stories down."
- I don't know. Maybe it's a split-level? Or. Maybe Strong Bad's house was architected by [http://www.warrenrobinett.com/ Warren Robinett]? :D [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 23:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

:In Sbemail 150?!? there IS a story between the computer room and the "basement," note the sudden switch to blue in a few frames. Although you're right about payplus, but it could always be a dimensional shift between the floorboards, that's always possible, even in the real world, if you're lucky enough. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

::I think we can regard the Pay Plus "toons" (a few seconds is not even a short, in my mind) as much canon as the [[personal favorites]] emails. They just look real, but they aren't. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:12, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Pay Plus was, after all, an April Fool's joke. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:46, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Although the Grape Nuts Robot was later referenced, even though that e-mail never existed. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

== Wii browser ==

The Wii's Internet Channel runs Flash Player 7... this clip is obviously designed for a later version of Flash Player. Is this that notable? Many H*R things (especially the games) don't work in earlier versions of the Flash player, and we tend not to note it as a glitch... it's just another Flash artefact (which would go under Remarks if we felt the need to mention it at all). I don't want to delete it without discussion, since it's so long and detailed, and quite a few people have worked on it... but I really don't think it needs to be noted, certainly not as a Glitch. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:I agree, this is not notable. The ad was simply not designed to be watched on a wii - which is not out of the ordinary.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:38, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

:I also have to agree. However, this depends on the base of the browser as well. The nDS Browser is Opera, which can be updated to have Flash Player 8+ but only if you are able to save the flash installer to a harddrive, which the DS lacks. Although I'm sure nintendo made their own browser for the Wii. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
::Nope, the Internet Channel is Opera as well. However, I think most of the Opera stuff save for web browsing has been cut out or modified, so even if you could save the Flash 9 installer, you probably wouldn't be able to install it (I think it needs a special version of the Flash SDK, which Adobe has refused to provide for versions after 7). But yeah, this is a general Flash 7 or below problem, which doesn't really need to be mentioned (unless it does something interesting like the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu#Trivia|games menu]] does when accessed using an older version of Flash). --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 16:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, you can't update the Wii's Flash, you have to wait for Nintendo and Opera to do it. -[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 11:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

==First 3-D clip: Real-World Reference?==

Does anyone recognize the background on the first 3-D clip shown in this thing? It looks really familiar, but I can't place it. If I had to take a wild stab, I think it reminds me of something in an old LucasArts adventure game or something. I could just be crazy, though.

== Pixel mistake in Kev's email? ==

I had added in the real-world references that a "pixel" is actually any of the millions of tiny dots of light on a computer's monitor, and that it would have been more correct for Kev to write something like "sprite," but it was reverted back. It's my understanding that everything on the screen is made of pixels, even both 2D and 3D games. Am I mistaken? Or is this too irrelevant or too technical to be worth bringing up in the article?
--[[User:71.105.195.253|71.105.195.253]] 08:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure Kev was referring to [[Wikipedia:Pixelation|pixelation]]... he didn't want one of those old-school console games (that SB is such a fan of) where the pixels are clearly visible. Anyways, we tend to not make a habit of pointing out the errors in the actual emails, unless SB points them out, or they're particularly notable. Though, perhaps it might be worth revisiting that if the email turns out to have been made up by TBC/Telltale, as has been [[#Real email?|suggested]]... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Talk:SBCG4AP Advertisement

ComputerBox — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:32:57 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Wii browser */

== NES poster ==

Man, there are so many awesome Inside References in this! Temporarios, Suge Brown, the plaques from [[no loafing]], and the Videlectrix poster in the stairwell is a parody of [http://trsrockin.com/images/powerposter.jpg this NES poster]! I probably have 15 of those in a box somewhere :D {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

:Here they are, side by side. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:17, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:VidelectrixPoster.png|162px]][[Image:NES poster Now You're Playing With Power.jpg|140px]]
::As a side-note, the poster depicted above, and the one Trey linked to, are actually different. Most notably to me, being a longtime RPG fan, the middle left side of Trey's picture shows Dragon Warrior and Faxanadu, while the one in the comparison shot has Metroid and Kid Icarus. Interesting... -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:48, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I noticed that too... my guess is that there are a bunch of variants with different games. I should see if I have any ones that are different... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 00:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
:::At that, does anyone know which games are depicted on the Videlectrix poster? I can see [[Secret Collect.]], [[StrongBadZone]] and [[RhinoFeeder]], and [[Thy Dungeonman]] in the upper left... [[Thy Dungeonman II]] and [[Thy Dungeonman 3]] on the upper right, and I think I see [[Pigs on Head]] in the lower left corner... any others? -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:52, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

All right, I got it now...

Upper left corner:
[[Secret Collect.]], [[StrongBadZone]], [[RhinoFeeder]]
[[Thy Dungeonman]], [[50k Racewalker]]

Upper right corner:
[[Thy Dungeonman 3]], [[Thy Dungeonman II]]

Middle left:
[[Duck Guardian One]]
[[Duck Guardian 2]], [[Pigs on Head]]

Middle right:
[[Planet Alert]], [[Hallrunner]]

Lower left:
[[Spaceshipper]] (?), [[Stinkoman]] (forgot the actual name)

I think that's all of them... -{{User:YK/sig}}

== 404'd, or not ready? ==

Whoever made the edit of "not yet active," was it just 404'd? I'd like to put that in Trivia if it was, because it exists now, but only with a message. --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 21:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

== MiiWare ==

Should "MiiWare" be a considerable reference to Miis? --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 21:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
: Actually, for all we know, Strong Bad meant Me-Ware, not Mii-Ware. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:44, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:: I like the Me-Ware guess so much it makes me wonder if he really said Me-Where. --[[User:Interdigital|Interdigital]] 23:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== Title Change? ==

In the TV Time Toons Menu, it's listed under "SBCG4AP," just like the HTML file for it. Should we move the article when we get the transcript done? --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 21:45, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:Telltale Games' website also calls the video by that name, so I would support a move. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 16:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think that's a good idea. The title as it is is descriptive, and explains its relationship to the forthcoming game. By contrast, the abbreviated title is not very descriptive, and likely only appears on the toons page because this one is too long. Keep where it is. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:07, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
:::The article's current title also makes it ridiculously easy to get it and [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Gameplay Trailer]] mixed up. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 18:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Hence the disambiguation. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:58, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'd say that things would get more confusing if this article was moved, as SBCG4AP is given in this toon as the abbreviation for the game itself, and thus would serve more use as a redirect to the game page instead of as a new home for this one. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 19:29, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::I agree 100%: SBCG4AP is being used everywhere as the abbreviation for the game, so that page should redirect to the game, and this article should not be moved there. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:53, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Could we compromise and move it to [[SBCG4AP Advertisement]]? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 12:58, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:That's a reasonable idea, and it would also make the title easier to read at a glance. If we do that, we should also move the gameplay trailer to [[SBCG4AP Gameplay Trailer]], I think. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:18, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== Rabid dog? ==

I hear "rabbit dog", not "rabid dog" as one of the Real World Refs calls it. On second though, we should probably wait until the transcript is done. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 21:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:Funny, I hear that too. But I'm not sure it makes enough sense to put down. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
::I think it does. Sam is way more of a "rabbit" dog (a hybrid of a rabbit and a dog, with his vaguely bunnyish ears) than a "rabid" dog. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 21:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Ooh, insider information; it's "rabbit dog": [http://telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4875&page=2]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:27, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I think the "Rabbitdog and Bunnyman" part may be intended as a reference to the 80's alternative band, Echo & The Bunnymen. It would also justify his pronunciation of Bunnyman as "Bunnym'n"

== Glitch? ==

Is this thing playing choppy on anyone else's computers as well? It's still funnier than rated though. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
*What parts are choppy? Or is it just occasional? --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 22:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:I didn't notice any glitchy problems, but I did notice a big increase in the frame rate. {{User:Super Turtle/sig}} 22:19, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

:This swf is streaming off of our (Telltale's) CDN instead of TBC's servers since the whole thing is pretty big. It may be that it was the increased size that sabotaged you.
::You're not alone. The trailer constantly stutters on my computer, especially when Homestar turns up. (''"A-w m-a-n, t-hi-s d-an-g ol-' re-mo-t-e c-o-nt-r-ol..."'') Once again, I point the blame squarely at the server. If this is the case, then all we can do is come back later and try again. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:24, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Plus, if you look at your statusbar closely, the preloader doesn't preload the whole movie before the movie starts. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
::::Ok, since the movie plays before the entire trailer is finished loading, I've found a solution to the stuttering: start the trailer, then turn off your speakers and do something else for five minutes. Once the trailer has finally loaded and played through once, go back and play the trailer again. Because the movie has been temporarily downloaded and stored in the computer's memory, it should now play smoothly. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

== What dimension? ==

I'm actually not listening right now, as now isn't an opportune time, but wouldn't it make more sense for Strong Bad to give the "3 Ds" as "'''''Depth''''', Dimension, and Dumb idiots"? Or at least something that begins with a D? "Yeah" seems out of context. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:Corrected. It didn't make much sense, but I had trouble hearing that - now you say "Depth" it makes perfect sense and sounds right. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 22:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

== SOOOOOOOOOOoo fast! ==

Is it just me, or did the things in this "commercial" move faster than most homestar stuff?
:Yes, things seem to move "faster" due to the higher framerate as stated in the Trivia section. I only wish they would use this all the time. Looks so much better. Probably requires a lot more work though. {{User:Joshr915/sig}} 05:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

::Yep. TBC have talked about this in interviews 'n stuff. [[Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007]] comes to mind; here's a quote from that:
<blockquote>
'''MIKE:''' Um, and that's how we learned to animate, so we have rarely...done a few things at 18 or 24 frames a second, and of course it takes us way longer, so we, we stick with 12.
</blockquote>
::Good thing to watch if you haven't watched it already. And as far as I'm concerned, they can keep doing it at 12 if it means a new cartoon just about every week (as they mention in that public appearance). {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:24, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I would definitely rather have faster updates than faster framerates {{User:Joshr915/sig}} 08:11, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Agreed with Joshr915. I'd love faster updates too. Although with faster framerates, it means tweens/etc. have to be on the movie set for longer. When you lower the framerate, they don't have to be on as long. I think it may have something to do with the fact that TBC wants to not have their movies over a certain filesize too. More frames means bigger size. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

== They're not serious, are they? ==

...are they? --{{User:Haldo/sig}} 23:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:We're totally serious :) --[[User:Tabacco|Tabacco]] 23:14, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
::Wow! {{User:Haldo/sig}}

== Let me guess...==

...some really late and meticulous April Fools day prank? {{unsigned|Del20nd|00:33, 11 April 2008}}

:I really don't understand why you people don't understand reality is reality. This is '''REAL''', and it is '''REALLY''' going to happen. They have the press release, which states it's real. TBC have contributed, and TellTale games went to a lot of freakin' trouble makin' this, I'm going to guess. TBC didn't make those graphics by themselves, and one company wouldn't go to that much trouble putting what I'm guessing was around about 3-6 months into just making 3d graphics and screenshots, pages on their official website, etc., for like, 2 cartoons about 3 minutes long a piece. If this isn't real, than somebody call me cap'n of the gravy train, and shoot me hard with a water-pistol. Not that that would hurt anyway, but still: THIS WILL HAPPEN. I guarantee it. [[User:DevonM|DevonM]] 00:39, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

::As will I :) --[[User:Tabacco|Tabacco]] 00:44, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

::it's an ok argument, DevonM, except those people went into a lot of freaking effort for that "legend of zelda" movie trailer, and ''that's'' not going anywhere (really wish it was, though) --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman (Neumannz)]] 03:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

::But there's also the fact that... um... IT'S NOT APRIL FIRST. Seriously, this is why I hate the internet and magazines with regard to April Fool's Day, you start getting accusations of early jokes and late jokes, and people posting stuff later on thinking it's true, causing other people to think it's true until they find out the source... Jokes should only be ON April 1st. So no, this is real. -[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 03:42, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

On a second note, you an clearly see the game "Coming soon" in the wii games on the games page. [[User:F123979|F123979]]
:ya, not to mention I've already seen this on a billion news blogs already. Should be sweet and extra real :P

== Real email? ==

Hrm, was just wondering.. is this a real email, or did TBC/Telltale make it up for the purposes of the ad? I guess the same will go for the emails in the game itself, since the trailer shows that you'll be able to see some. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 00:52, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:We don't know, and we can only speculate - especially about the in-game emails. I'm assuming that the email from this ad is made-up, since it says that this is not a real sbemail.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:03, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
::According to [http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=62067&postcount=5 this Telltale Games forums post], all emails in the game will be made up for legal reasons. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 11:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

::: Since you all probably missed the e-mail song at the beginning (I'm assuming this by the way the discussion is going) but strong bad himself says he's checking e-mails for money. Meaning Tell Tale Games paid him to do it, which is true. Because if you make an advertisement, you must pay the actors that appear in it. Although you can always force the actors to be listed as "volunteers." I don't think that's fair though. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
::::Uh...Iyeru, most sbemail songs aren't actually relevant to the email itself. I don't know off the top of my head if there's another sbemail that has a reference to him "being paid" to check emails, but I'm sure there's probably one somewhere. And you don't have to pay the actors, its usually just standard to do so. {{User:DevonM/sig}}

==Strong Bad's House==
Forgive me if one of these already exists but... Someone should study that toon and create a layout of Strong Bad's house. Well, at least as complete a diagram as possible with the rooms he showed. {{User:Joshr915/sig}} 05:51, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:Seeing the trailer, I think the layout we saw here is actually going to in-game. (This is just a speculation) I think we shouldn't rush off, since if we wait we can just play the game, and that will be much easier. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 07:38, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
::If his whole house is in the game that would definitely be easier, ya. {{User:Joshr915/sig}} 08:12, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

:I also believe the DVDs outline some of his house too. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

== Incorrect ==

The folloing remark:

The link at the end of the ad, "learn more at telltalegames.com", was inactive at first, and activated soon after the cartoon's release. Now, however, the link is not clickable at all, neither is the back button next to it. However, it is clickable in the Flash File.

...I believe isn't true. I have watched the toon on the website three times now, and the link to telltalegames.com works, as well as the back button. I am wanting to know what we should do with this knowledge. [[User:Andrewnuva199|Andrewnuva199]] 18:45, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:If that's the case, then I will add it to the article. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:07, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

:It still is unclickable for me, at least in Firefox 2.0.0.13. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
::Just checked. Although they highlight, they do not work for me. I am using IE 7. Not added to article after all. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
:::It's possible that they used an swfLoader function/file onsite to load an offsite swf. If that's the case, it's no wonder the links won't work; we have this problem on [http://www.sheezyart.com SheezyART] a lot because of that. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

It's working fine for me, even though my iMac is incredably slow and makes this cartoon almost unwatchable. I think it should say that it works on some computers, since that's how it seems to be working. -Ben, who really needs an account here.

==A price?==

Mike and Matt already have my money, how much of it do you think they want? -NoAccount 20:22, 11 April 2008
:The [http://telltalegames.com/strongbad/faq FAQ] says it'll cost similar to their other episodic games... [http://www.telltalegames.com/store/samandmax which generally cost $9 each]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:23, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

== Greasemonkey Seekbar Errors? ==

Is anyone else finding it impossible to navigate this toon using the Greasemonkey seekbar script?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:23, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
:My theory is it is because the Flash file is hosted on another site. The seekbar attempts to work but fails. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:38, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
::Your theory is correct. If you host the Flash file and the HTML file on the same site, the seekbar works fine. It's just Flash's security at work... massively oversimplified, it boils down to "stuff from different sites can't interact"... JavaScript stuff, like the GM script, are treated by Flash as if they were part of the HTML page (because, for all it can tell, they ''could'' be)... which was served by www.homestarrunner.com. They're trying to interact with the SWF file, which comes from telltale.vo.llnwd.net. So they're different sites, and Flash severely limits what the JavaScript can access... it can read where the Flash movie is up to (so the seekbar works as a progress bar, subtitles should still work, etc), but you can't seek, or pause, or anything like that. There's not much I can do about it... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:54, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

== 3D Style ==

The 3D-Style shown throughout the advertisement looks similar to Google's Sketch-Up way of rendering by a lot. Is this notable? (If this were made in blender, it would have taken a long, long, long time to make it so simply.) {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:Although I have no clue if this is true or not, I remember reading something on the Telltale FAQ that they made all the stuff in what they call the "Telltale Tool". {{User:DevonM/sig}}
::Although I believe there's no downloads for that tool. You can see other places where they discuss it, like [http://www.adventuregamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14355 here] and maybe... [http://www.telltalearcade.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3381 here]. Seems it'll probably be purchase only though. So if I went into the 3D-business, I'd probably use Blender.org's tool. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

:::Correct. The Telltale Tool is our custom developed in-house game engine and development tool. We don't release it for download or purchase. The shipping versions of the game include a very stripped down version of the tool that contains only what is needed to run the game. Blender is something altogether different. For our modelling, we use Maya. — [[User:Tabacco|Tabacco]] ([[User talk:Tabacco|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tabacco|contribs]]) 18:42, 12 April 2008 (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

::::Once again, a non-free progrum. (See [http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=7635018 here]) I'm amazed that less progrums are free around the webs. -- (Iyeru-Guest)

:::::I'm not really sure why you're concerned that we use non-free software to make the game, but okay. If you desperately want a free copy of Maya fro some reason, you can grab the [http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=7639525 Personal Learning Edition] from their website to play with. But again, I'm not sure why it matters. We use Maya, the customer doesn't need it at all. — [[User:Tabacco|Tabacco]] ([[User talk:Tabacco|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tabacco|contribs]]) 21:26, 12 April 2008 (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

::::::All I want to know is how easy the Interface is, and how much effort you really are putting into it. So far, I'm not exactly pleased with what I see. Sure, it may be a fun game, but that doesn't mean it's going to go good for you. You're starting to sound rather selfish in my opinion. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

:::::::Man, at this point I'm not even sure what you're talking about. You're confusing the game engine and the tools we use to make the game with the game itself, and somehow confusing the tool used to model characters and environments with the game as well. Playing the game doesn't require that you own Maya, a copy of the Telltale Tool, or anything except the game. As I said before, you seem extremely determined not to buy the game, so I'm not sure why you keep raising a fuss over weird subjects. --[[User:Tabacco|Tabacco]] 22:53, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

:::::::What are you talking about Iyeru? You really make no sense whatsoever. Aren't they putting enough effort into it cause they aren't using free software? Are you afraid a too complicated interface makes the developer too selfish? "It may be a fun game, but that doesn't mean it's going to go good for you" sounds like a suggestion to drop the whole thing because... well, why really? Keep in mind that this is no random fangame made by someone with too much time on their hands, but a serious company that has developed several games and are officially working together with the brothers. — [[User:81.231.119.248|81.231.119.248]] ([[User talk:81.231.119.248|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/81.231.119.248|contribs]]) 22:47, 12 April 2008 (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

::::::::Ok, far be it for me to butt in here, but... if I'm reading into it what I think I am... is Iyeru complaining because the tools used to make the game aren't free? I... don't really get it. So, what, should we just not play video games unless the tools the developers use are freeware? Although not professionally, I *do* dabble in game creation myself, and I -- and I imagine the ones making *this* game -- would really prefer not to be judged by the tools I used to do so, but rather on the game itself and how fun/playable it is. -{{User:YK/sig}} 23:06, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

===I'm Sorry ===

I'm sorry guys, my head's a little confused all day today, probably shouldn't have gone off at how I loathe non-free software so much. It isn't right to bring my problems to other communities like that. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

== AdVERtisement ==
The entry describing the pronunciation of "advertisement" doesn't need to be included. Strong Bad is pronouncing the word correctly. "AD-ver-TISE-ment" is a common error which has become so ubiquitous that it is often viewed as correct. It is analogous to foliage ("foil-age" instead of "fol-ee-age") or nuclear ("nuke-u-ler" instead of "new-clear"). Pronouncing a common word properly is not an inside reference. — [[User:99.254.79.96|99.254.79.96]] ([[User talk:99.254.79.96|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/99.254.79.96|contribs]]) 18:25, 13 April 2008 (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])
:Yeah, but its an inside reference because most people don't pronounce it "ad-ver-tis-ment". They pronounce it the other way. And I don't think that "advertisment" is the right way to pronounce it. Can you show some proof? [[User:DevonM|DevonM]] 18:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
::At least here in the States, AD-ver-TISE-ment is standard (see [http://www.bartleby.com/61/56/A0105600.html American Heritage Dictionary], [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/advertisement Merriam-Webster]). I understand the situation may be different in the Commonwealth countries, but as this is an American cartoon, we base remarks on US English practices. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I thought the same thing, actually - I wrote the transcript for this, but the first line was already there, and I originally removed the pronunciation 'stage direction' because it seemed perfectly normal to me, what with my being English. Since other people evidently found it worth remarking on, I guessed it was something to do with US pronunciation. Not sure how that happened though; "AD-ver-TISE-ment" sounds rather clumsy, like someone sounding out a word they'd not seen before, whereas "ad-VER-tis-ment" runs off the tongue better. Of course, I say "fol-ee-age" and "new-clear" (kind of.. "new-clee-ar"?) too.. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 02:05, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== Two stories.. orly? ==

"In HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS! and Sbemail 150?!?, the computer room was one floor up from the couch. However, Strong Bad descends two sets of stairs to get to the couch, making it two stories down."
- I don't know. Maybe it's a split-level? Or. Maybe Strong Bad's house was architected by [http://www.warrenrobinett.com/ Warren Robinett]? :D [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] 23:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

:In Sbemail 150?!? there IS a story between the computer room and the "basement," note the sudden switch to blue in a few frames. Although you're right about payplus, but it could always be a dimensional shift between the floorboards, that's always possible, even in the real world, if you're lucky enough. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

::I think we can regard the Pay Plus "toons" (a few seconds is not even a short, in my mind) as much canon as the [[personal favorites]] emails. They just look real, but they aren't. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:12, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Pay Plus was, after all, an April Fool's joke. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:46, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Although the Grape Nuts Robot was later referenced, even though that e-mail never existed. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

== Wii browser ==

The Wii's Internet Channel runs Flash Player 7... this clip is obviously designed for a later version of Flash Player. Is this that notable? Many H*R things (especially the games) don't work in earlier versions of the Flash player, and we tend not to note it as a glitch... it's just another Flash artefact (which would go under Remarks if we felt the need to mention it at all). I don't want to delete it without discussion, since it's so long and detailed, and quite a few people have worked on it... but I really don't think it needs to be noted, certainly not as a Glitch. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:I agree, this is not notable. The ad was simply not designed to be watched on a wii - which is not out of the ordinary.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:38, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

:I also have to agree. However, this depends on the base of the browser as well. The nDS Browser is Opera, which can be updated to have Flash Player 8+ but only if you are able to save the flash installer to a harddrive, which the DS lacks. Although I'm sure nintendo made their own browser for the Wii. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
::Nope, the Internet Channel is Opera as well. However, I think most of the Opera stuff save for web browsing has been cut out or modified, so even if you could save the Flash 9 installer, you probably wouldn't be able to install it (I think it needs a special version of the Flash SDK, which Adobe has refused to provide for versions after 7). But yeah, this is a general Flash 7 or below problem, which doesn't really need to be mentioned (unless it does something interesting like the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu#Trivia|games menu]] does when accessed using an older version of Flash). --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 16:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, you can't update the Wii's Flash, you have to wait for Nintendo and Opera to do it. -[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 11:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

==First 3-D clip: Real-World Reference?==

Does anyone recognize the background on the first 3-D clip shown in this thing? It looks really familiar, but I can't place it. If I had to take a wild stab, I think it reminds me of something in an old LucasArts adventure game or something. I could just be crazy, though.

== Pixel mistake in Kev's email? ==

I had added in the real-world references that a "pixel" is actually any of the millions of tiny dots of light on a computer's monitor, and that it would have been more correct for Kev to write something like "sprite," but it was reverted back. It's my understanding that everything on the screen is made of pixels, even both 2D and 3D games. Am I mistaken? Or is this too irrelevant or too technical to be worth bringing up in the article?
--[[User:71.105.195.253|71.105.195.253]] 08:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure Kev was referring to [[Wikipedia:Pixelation|pixelation]]... he didn't want one of those old-school console games (that SB is such a fan of) where the pixels are clearly visible. Anyways, we tend to not make a habit of pointing out the errors in the actual emails, unless SB points them out, or they're particularly notable. Though, perhaps it might be worth revisiting that if the email turns out to have been made up by TBC/Telltale, as has been [[#Real email?|suggested]]... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Subtitles talk:sbcg4ap/en

ComputerBox — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:30:01 GMT

ComputerBox: New page: How's this going to work? You can't pause it with the Greasemonkey seek bar to time the quotes right... I assume it's still possible, it'll just take a bit more effort.

How's this going to work? You can't pause it with the Greasemonkey seek bar to time the quotes right... I assume it's still possible, it'll just take a bit more effort.

The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw

ComputerBox — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:50:11 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Fun Facts */

{{toonnav|Shorts|stuckincraw|Limozeen Live!|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:Stuckincraw.PNG|thumb|The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw]]
Strong Bad tells another timeless story.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, [[Tiny-Handed Strong Bad]], {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Bubs}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[The Computer Room]]

'''Date:''' Monday, April 14, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 3:00

'''Page Title:''' The Timeless Classic Comes To Life

==Transcript==
''{The short opens with an illustration done in the style of the original book, with Homestar wearing his [[Duckie Shirt]]. Strong Bad narrates throughout.}''

''' NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' The Homestar Runner gets something stuck in his craw.

''{Next page shows Homestar Runner similar to the first page of the original book, but only with the Duckie Shirt}''

Everyone loves The Homestar Runner. He is a terrific athlete.

''{Page turns to Homestar hoeing in the Field}''

Once a time, he was in the field doing some yard work.

''{Close up of Homestar sweating}''

"The yard work is hard work!" quipped The Homestar Runner.

''{Pull back to reveal Tiny Handed Strong Bad and The Cheat entering from the left.}''

Strong Bad and his The Cheat rolled up and started talking smack.

"You look dumb and stuff! ''{Close up to Strong Bad and The Cheat}'' Doing yardwork is only for the loseriest of losers!"

''{Medium short of Homestar}''

The Homestar Runner was saddened by this bit of news and felt ashamed.

"I never want to be a loser again!" ''{Master shot of all three}'' he said and somersaulted away.

''{A picture of the earth from above, with Homestar tumbling in silhouette.}''

He somersaulted around the world 50 times and only stopped because he was really tired.

''{Close-up of Homestar upside down in space}''

"Phew!" said The Homestar Runner.

''{Homestar tumbles back into the field with Strong Sad}''

Just then, it felt like a small animal tried to burst out of The Homestar Runner's craw.

''{Close-up of Strong Sad}''

"That is unsightly and make it go away!" shrieked ''[Strong Sad]'' some fat girl.

''{Close-up of Homestar}''

"Something is stuck in my craw!" declared The Homestar Runner.

''{A small bush with pink leaves is in a field. Homestar enters from the right and stands behind the bush.}''

For days upon days, he slinked around town trying to hide whatever it was that was stuck in his craw.

''{Medium shot of Homestar. A wig appears on the bump when it is said.}''

One day he put a wig on it.

''{Coach Z leans in from the left}''

"That's a nice wig ya got on your craw growth job there Homestar Runguy!" pronounced Coach Zee.

''{Close up of Homestar}''

Another day, he painted it green and ''[painted]'' drew some stripes on it.

''{Bubs pops in in the background}''

"Man! When is that nasty thing going to go away-way?!" queried Bubs.

''{Homestar and Strong Sad in the field}''

Finally, he asked ''[Strong Sad]'' The Ghost of Christmas Suck what to do.

"Sensible people solve their problems with words, not disguises," advised ''{mumbling, as if disappointed at running out of insults}'' Strong Sad.

''{Homestar Runner in silhouette against a yellow background}''

So The Homestar Runner tried talking to his craw lump.

''{Close-up of Homestar}''

"Why don't you just go away?" But it didn't answer.

"I just wish I knew where you came from." Still no answer.

''{Medium shot, Homestar on the left. Strong Bad and The Cheat enter from the right.}''

Just then, Strong Bad and The Cheat walked up and started laughing their rear ends off.

"Ha ha ha ha! That guy is talking to a thing that's not a person!" cackled Strong Bad with sort of a nose.

"Hey, you leave him out of this!"

Right about that time, the thing stuck in his craw popped out!

''{Close-up of Homestar}''

"Lands End!" yelped The Homestar Runner.

''{Homestar, Strong Bad and The Cheat in silhouette against a yellow background}''

The craw object, or crawbject, unfurled and was ''{close-up of Homestar}'' revealed to be...

''{Medium shot of Homestar, Strong Bad and The Cheat}''

A red shirt with a big white star!

"That is one pointy duck!" said ''{with light sarcasm}'' the smartest person in the world. ''{Homestar puts on the shirt}''

''{Pull back to reveal Bubs and Coach Z to the left of Homestar}''

"Don't you look a sight," ''{questioningly}'' said Bubs.

"Now I can truly see that you're a terrific airthlete," realized Coach Zee.

''{Close-up of Homestar}''

"I couldn't have done it without my craw!!" said The Homestar Runner.

''{Long shot of Homestar tumbling towards Mars, with the others in the field}''

Then he somersaulted to Mars and brought them back all meatball subs.

''{Coach Z, Bubs, Homestar, Strong Bad, and The Cheat all standing with subs}''

"I still hate you and later on, you gonna get cut," threatened tuff-as-nails Strong Bad.

''{Close-up of Homestar}''

"Oh, Strong Bad!"

''{Homestar winks}''

"Ding!"

''{An actual ding plays shortly after he voices the sound effect.}''

''{cut to the Computer Room. Homestar is sitting on the floor, while Strong Bad is sitting at his desk with the [[Compy 386|Compy]], holding a copy of the storybook he just read.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Bravo, Strong Bad. You simply must read one more.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ohh, fine, fine. So I shall. How about ''{takes out another book and smiles}'' ''The Strong Sad Wets Yonder Bed''?

''{Strong Sad leans in}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' There is no such kids' book!

''{The cover for The Strong Sad Wets Yonder Bed flies up at the end.}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The [[Wikipedia:Crop (anatomy)|craw]] (also known as the "crop") is an anatomical structure in some animals in which food is stored prior to digestion.
**The expression [http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/stick+in+craw "to have something stuck in your craw"] means something is annoying you, especially if you are holding a grudge.
*Homestar's interjection of "Lands End!" is likely a corruption or misinterpretation of "land's sakes" or "land o' Goshen."
*Mike and Craig are references to [[Mike Chapman]] and [[Craig Zobel]], the writers of the original Homestar Runner book.

===Trivia===
*At the end, Strong Bad's computer (the [[Compy 386]]) reads:
<blockquote class="compy email">
a>So there you have it Mondy. That's 
why I always wear leaky boots to 
thrift stores and real 
estate seminars. Don't you 
wish you could too?
</blockquote>

===Inside References===
*In [[flashback]], Strong Bad says he'll tell this story but gets sidetracked when his computer displays a message commenting on his 100th email. That e-mail was originally going to tell the story of how Homestar got his star shirt, until it was reworked- the version of the shirt's origin seen here is very different from the one proposed for the e-mail.
**The floppy disk marked [[Floppy Disk Container#Cave_Quest|Cave Quest]] also appeared in flashback.
*Coach Z's name was last spelled "Coach Zee" in [[Where My Hat Is At?]]
*"Crawbject" is a [[portmanteau]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Lands' End|Lands' End]] is a clothing retailer that specializes in casual clothing, luggage, and home furnishings. It is also [[Wikipedia:Land's End|a part of Cornwall.]]

==External Links==
*[[HR:stuckincraw.html|watch "The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw"]]
*[[HR:stuckincraw.swf|view the Flash file for "Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw"]]
*[[Forum:13898|forum thread re: "The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw"]]

[[Category:Books]]
[[Category:Strong Bad Email Spin-offs|Homestar]]

Stinkoman 20X6 Glitches

ComputerBox — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:39:48 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Boss */

In anything as big as [[Stinkoman 20X6]] numerous bugs will arise. Most are unique to some levels, although many others are linked to problems with [[Macromedia Flash|Flash]], and others have been fixed.
==General==
*If you fall for long enough and don't touch anything, Stinkoman will switch from his falling pose to his standing up pose, and will even start to yawn. Such a long fall can be found in stages 2.2, 6.1, 6.2, and -0.2. 1-Up will do this as well, but there's no place to attempt it on his level.
*When Stinkoman is about to yawn, his sprite character moves down one pixel. This is due to the low quality setting.
*If you manage to lose a life and kill a boss simultaneously, the "Keep Try" or "Game Over" screen appears, but then you'll continue the game, having lost the life, but still with no energy (so if you get hit you lose a second life).
**This also works at the end of most levels with a flag.
**This glitch will start you out with no health, meaning if you get hit you get another GAME OVER (unless you repeat the glitch).
**It '''ALSO''' has "check points" where it will usually restart you in the exact same place you were in before you died. The only bad thing is that sometimes if there is a lower area the screen will not scroll down when you go down. Also, it will sometimes prevent you from going off the left of the screen.
**You CAN peform this glitch at any time, but it is most helpful at a GAME OVER.
*If you press A immediately at the very beginning of a level where Stinkoman starts in the air, Stinkoman will look like he is walking on ground for a moment, then jump in the air.
*If you jump on the left of a wall enough, you can move into it and go out on the other side.
*Sometimes when you kill an enemy the final frame of the explosion stays there.
*If you time it right, you can make Stinkoman laugh in midair after you defeat a boss by pressing A.
*If you're using a Flash seek bar with "Next Frame", when the title screen appears, you can repeatedly click "Next Frame" and flip through some menus until you reach "Level Undefined.Undefined". It's an empty level without any ground. When you reach it, Stinkoman will use his catchphrase as if it was a boss battle. Also, your starting life number will either be "NaN" or "Undefined".
**Another way to view this level is to go to the flash file and continuosly right click and press play. You can also go to the Last level to come screen as well.
***If you do this and reach level undefined.undefined and right click and press play again it takes you to the last level to come screen. If play is used again, boss music will play.
*Standing on a moving platform that goes through a wall will cause you to go through the wall as well. Although there are rarely any instances of this in the official game (sometimes you can make the tip of his toe go through), you can experience this glitch with a custom level.
*On any level with moving ladders, you will not fall off if you keep Stinkoman on the very top. Don't go too high or you will fall.
**But if you hold the up arrow key, the animation of getting off the ladder will play three times before you fall.

==Bugs Concerning Flash==
[[Image:stinkogame slow.png|thumb|Glitch for Flash 6 and under.]]
* Sometimes you can start up a new game and it will be nothing but Stinkoman and the background. Since there's no ground, you can only fall and die. This may be linked to older versions of Flash.
** A possible reason that this happens is because earlier versions of Flash may not be able to read the levelData xml files.

==[[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 1|Level 1]] ==
[[Image:stinkoman-glitch.png|thumb|Stinkoman stands on air!]]
===Part 1===
*In level 1.1, if you don't kill the Jaro by the first wall, and instead just go past it and the wall under the second Browntant, the Jaro may be jumping in mid-air.
**It can even jump through the wall.
*Near the start, when you have to get to the bottom of the first wall (with the browntant), if you fall right against the wall and the tip of your toe lands on the platform that's on the other side, you'll seem to be floating in midair.

===Boss===
*Losing a life in 1.3 or [[#Boss 2|2.3]] will result in Stinkoman returning to the level without ground, causing him to fall to his death- instant game over. You must defeat these two bosses in one life.
**This is because there is no real level 1.3 or 2.3 – the battles happen at the end of 1.2 or 2.2. When you get to the end of the level the boss appears. When you die, it unloads the level as always, but when you keep try, it doesn't reload it – it expects it to still be there, as it is when you just finished the .2 level. The result: no ground.

==[[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 2|Level 2]]==
[[Image:stinkogame-level22-terrell-glitch.png|thumb|Stuck Terrell on level 2.2]]
===Part 2===
*In the beginning of levels 2.1 and 2.2, there are Terrells on a burner and just behind a stove, respectively. It's possible for the Terrells to get "stuck" in midair. It will continue to hop up and down on the air (without moving horizontally at all), and Stinkoman can pass through the Terrell without becoming injured. It also becomes entirely invulnerable.
*In level 2.2, it is possible for one of the Grundies near the 3 bottles of Tortan to get stuck in the stove

===Boss===
*Sometimes, when you shoot Brody's eye, he will keep his head down, enabling you to shoot him again. This is possibly caused because you shoot his eye while his head is going back to the top of the screen, although this has never been truly proven.
*As in level [[#Boss|1.3]], if you die when fighting Brody, when you restart the ground is no longer there and you fall until game over.

==[[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 3|Level 3]]==
[[Image:Stinkoman Glitch.JPG|thumb|What is he doing here?]]
===Part 1===
*At the release of v7 (Level 9), the Clowders' propellers mysteriously disappeared.
*Sometimes the Clowders suddenly stop moving in the middle of the screen, making it impossible to get past them. They disappear once you move on to level 3.2.

===Part 2===
*There have been occasional sightings in level 3.2 of a Clowder or Mr. Ubbers from level 3.1.

==[[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4|Level 4]]==
*When you block a lava fall while holding S, the lava fall will go back for a split second, killing 1-Up if he is under there.
*No matter how far you stick the giant fist into the lava fall, it is as if the whole fist is under it.
*If you press 'S' repeatedly, faster than the pounding animation can go, after you're done pressing S, Stinkoman will continue to pound until he has pounded as many times as you've pressed S, which can sometimes get very annoying when you need to move on.
*If a and s are pressed at the same time as you're falling into the level from the left, Stinkoman will float instead of walk.
*If you walk underneath a lavaflow so the giant fist is above your head, turn around, then quickly tap s, the fist will sometimes not move, but you will hear the fist pound the ground and see the rocks fall anyway.
*If you die by a Poorbt or by falling in the lava, 1-Up keeps walking. If he hits an enemy or a lava-fall before the level restarts, he will die too, and you'll lose 2 lives. This can cause you to get -1 lives
*If 1-Up hits a lava flow while a Poorbt is shooting at you, the Poorbt's shot just goes past you.
*When Stinkoman crushes a Poorbt with his fist, the Poorbt dies, but the fist doesn't move.

===Part 2===
[[Image:PinkChamCham.jpg|thumb|A Pink Cham Cham firing only the left laser]]
*If you approach a Pink Cham Cham from the left and see only the left side of it as it fires, when you approach toward the right to see the rest of it, it will only have fired the laser on the left side.
**This may also happen in level -0.1 or [[#Part 2_5|-0.2]].

==[[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 5|Level 5]]==
*If you die at the beginning of 5.1 or 5.2 before the ship at the top flies by, it will fly by on the Keep Try screen.
===Part 1===
*A Jaro on one of the conveyor belts on level 5.1 can go behind the wall.

==[[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 6|Level 6]]==
===Part 2===
*After the second Protek, on the bottom level, you go on a series of moving white solid clouds. After killing a Jaro, you have to time yourself to fall through an evaporating cloud to land on another white solid. If you're on the evaporating cloud, and you move to the left, you'll be stuck falling in place on the wall. You can't jump, only move left and right and fire.
**You can also fall to the left of the wall and die, if you move far enough.

==[[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 7|Level 7]]==
*In Level 7.1 or 7.2, you will not freeze if you:
**Stay on a ladder.
**Hold the up or down button.
**Don't move at all after freezing once.
**Hold S (Holding S only works if your shots go off the screen since the game allows only three bullets in the screen)

===Part 1===
*In Level 7.1, in around the middle of the level, you can get caught between a wall and an ice platform. Shooting, running and jumping cannot move you; yet jumping toward either side will cause Stinkoman will keep flipping for as long as you hold the arrow keys.
*In Level 7.1 around the middle Stinkoman can stand in the air.

==[[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0|Level -0]]==
===Part 2===
*If you get through the first part of the stove maze on level -0.2 (solution image [[:Image:Stinkoman_20x6_-0.2_fridgemaze.PNG|here]]) and try to jump over the next opening, but just miss the other solid stove, you'll usually get stuck falling in place until you move back a bit.
*Sometimes, when you go to the far right opening in the stove maze (That has the hidden capsule) you can jump, hold right, and eventually slide down to the exit and you can run out.

===Boss===
*Sometimes while fighting Ekersby if you jump and hold the "a" key down, the screen will freeze until you release the "a" key.

==[[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 9|Level 9]]==
*When the character dies just as the shield effect wears off (the shield sprite is just beginning to disappear) the sprite will be visible on the Keep Try! screen.
*At the end of 9.1, if the ship is far enough above the group of lives and pills, it keeps going and never finishes the level.
*If you activate the shield in a super-speed zone and exit the zone while the shield is still activated, your super-speed will not stop until either the end of the next super-speed zone, or until the end of the level. This glitch allows the group of lives and pills at the end of 9.1 to become accessible, and can allow for a speedy exiting of 9.2.


==Fixed Glitches==
*When the game was first released, you could skip (press space or click) the first part of the final movie (any part before the MORE LEVELS TO COME SCENE) to enter stage 3.4. It was the Stlunko arena without Stlunko: a slightly elevated platform above the ground with two Pooru-Poorus on either side. You could continue traveling rightwards into a barren land before reaching an endless cliff.
**This again happened in level 4 when it was first released. However, this glitch has been fixed as well.
***Also, if you died once on level 4.4 there would be no ground when you returned.
**This hasn't happened on any other version since, with a minor exception (beneath).
[[Image:TryLevel -0.4.PNG|thumb|right|Truly Negatory]]
*When version 6 was first released, Level -0 always appeared in the top slot in the CONTINUTE menu even if you scrolled through the levels. This was fixed later in the day.
*On the day of version 7's release, beating Ekersby would take you to level -0.4 (a completely blank screen, where Stinkoman constantly falls to his death), instead of 9.1 as would be expected. This was fixed later in the day.

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SBCG4AP Gameplay Trailer

ComputerBox — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:49:47 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Fun Facts */

{{about|gameplay trailer for [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]]}} ''The article about the [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Advertisement|advertisement]] for the game has a similar title.''
[[Image:SBCG4AP Gameplay Trailer title.png|thumb|"It's Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People! But you can play too!"]]

The gameplay trailer for ''[[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]]''.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Coach Z}}

'''Places:''' [[Strong Bad's Basement]]

'''Date:''' Thursday, April 10, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 2:00

==Transcript==

''{As an arrangement of the Old Intro music plays, the screen reads "Telltale Games presents: An all-new cool game for attractive people." Static appears. Cut to Homestar, wearing a brown wig, shaking a TV remote around in Strong Bad's basement. Throughout the entire trailer, the characters speak haltingly and with little enthusiasm, as bad actors.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aw man, this dang ol' remote control can only change the channels and make everybody speak Spanish.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' Why not try this one?

''{Cut to the entrance of the basement where Strong Bad is seen wearing a blond wig and holding a Wii remote. The Cheat appears next to him}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What's that? ''{Strong Bad walks over to him. The Cheat jumps onto the couch}'' A futuristic candy bar?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Almost. ''{swaying his hips}'' Check it out!

''{He starts waving the remote as clips from the game are shown. Clips include Strong Bad playing a boxing arcade game, how the player can check emails and him kicking The Cheat into the washing machine.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oooo. What game is that? The candy bar game?

''{Cut back to the basement.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's "''Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People''"! ''{Close-up on Strong Bad}'' But you can play too!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Voice over more clips from the game}'' But Strong Bad, this game seems to have all the cool characters from "homestarrunner.com".

''{Cut back to Strong Bad in the basement}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's right. And even the lames ones.

''{Cut to a clip from the game where Coach Z is in the locker room}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{crying}'' Go-go away!

''{Cut back to the basement.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{waving the remote around}'' I'm pointing, I'm clicking. It's like an adventure. ''{Crickets start chirping}''

''{Cut to clips of the game where Strong Bad runs through various locations}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Voice-over}'' You'll go to all the cool places we go in the cartoons -

''{Cut back to the basement. Close-up on Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' - in five totally awesome monthly episodes! ''{Jumps in the air}''

''{Close-up on Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Five episodes? Where do I buy them ats?

''{Cut to Strong Bad walking into the computer room. The Cheat appears under the table}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's the best part, Hom...star. ''{Placing his hands on his hips}'' It's WiiWare!

''{Cut to a crudely-drawn version of the Wii menu. Homestar pops up in front of it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' WiiWare!

''{Cut back to the computer room}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So you download them over your internet-style connection!

''{Close up on Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Get out of town! What are we waiting for?

''{Close up on Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' June of 2008!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I got so excited, I forgot everything you just said!

''{Cut to Strong Bad in front of the blue area from the beginning}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' "''Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People''!"

''{Cut to Homestar, standing in front of the same background as the intro screen from the website}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Featuring Homestar Runner!

''{Cut to The Cheat in front of a green background with "the cheat" written on it.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to the three of them standing in the blue background where the game's logo appears on the left.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up. Five adventure-packed action-sodes. Available this summer. Only on WiiWare.

''{A red box reading "and on PC" is slapped on the logo. A chomping noise is heard. Cut back to Homestar sitting on the couch tossing a bitten Wii remote aside.}

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, Strong Bad. I think we're gonna need more candy bars.

==Fun Facts==
[[Image:Snakeboxer5.jpg|thumb|right|''Snake Boxer V'']]
===Inside References===
*Homestar's pronunciation of "WiiWare" is similar to that of his pronunciation of "Email" on the [[Main Page|Main Pages]].
*Homestar biting the Wii remote is another instance of [[Eating Non-Food Items]].
*Strong Bad mentions his "internet-[[style]] connection".
*Strong Bad called Homestar "Homstar", a reference to calling [[Homsar]] Homestar and vice versa.
*During gameplay footage Strong Bad throws a box of [[Minor Foods#Temporarios|Temporarios]] at Strong Sad.
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads [[Peasant's_Quest|"P.Quest"]].
*During the clips of Strong Bad running through various locations, the background music is an arrangement of the music in [[Senor Mortgage]].
*When Homestar and Strong Bad are in the computer room, the e-mail on the screen seems to be the same one from the [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Advertisement|advertisement]].

===Goofs===
*Coach Z's eyes are much brighter than in the ad for this game, almost impossible to see on bright computers

===Real World References===
*The graphics on the boxing arcade game that Strong Bad plays (''Snake Boxer V'') strongly resemble the graphics on [http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html?SoftwareID=882 ''Boxing''] for the [[Atari 2600]].

==External Links==
*[http://www.telltalegames.com/images/flash/strongbad_gameplay_trailer.swf View the Flash file for the gameplay trailer for Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]
*[[youtube:ULy-1us8p1U|Watch the gameplay trailer for Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People on YouTube]]

{{SBCG4AP}}

[[Category: Shorts]]

SBCG4AP Advertisement

ComputerBox — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:00:20 GMT

ComputerBox:

{{about|advertisement for [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]]}} ''The article about the [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Gameplay Trailer|gameplay trailer]] for the game has a similar title.''
{{watchtoon|sbcg4ap.html}}
'''Toon Category: Uncategorized'''

[[Image:SBCG4AP Advertisement title.png|thumb|"Coming soon to a WiiWare near Mii-ware."]]

Strong Bad advertises [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Trogdor}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Pom Pom}}

'''Places:''' [[House of the Brothers Strong]], [[The Classroom]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Thursday, April 10, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 2:00

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486 has SOLD OUT!

==Transcript==
'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover, reading the words on screen}'' The following is an extremely well paid for commercial advertisement ''{pronounced ad-VER-tis-ment}'' and NOT a really funny cartoon.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Checkin' emails for money... is not funny.

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: 3-D game-a?</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
You need to make a 3-D Strong Bad video game with all the 
brst graphics. Not a bad game with dumb pixels! Come 
on MAN! 
From Kev the Mighty, Crenshaw Lane
</blockquote>
''{reads "brst" as written, and "Mighty" as "moron"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' A 3D video game? What you mean like this?

''{Strong Bad types '''strongbad3Dtotal.wad'''. The game appears on the Lappy's screen: a low-polygon 3D version of Strong Bad stands in a room with grey walls, one brown door with a window, a green and white chequered floor with a purple puddle, and containing one bed. Music plays.}''

'''STRONG BAD CHARACTER:''' ''{in a poorly-synthesized voice, as a speech bubble appears}'' Holy crap.

''{A similarly low-polygon version of Homestar Runner walks in from the right. The game is closed and the Lappy's screen shows the email again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or did you mean like THIS?!? ''{Strong Bad gets up and turns towards the viewer, moving off screen to the left.}'' Gimme that camera!

''{Strong Bad starts to move the camera around the room, which is rendered in full 3D.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ah! ''{music starts; Strong Bad turns left to face Strong Sad, who is in his bedroom directly across the hall}'' Ooh, look at that voluptuous belly!

''{Strong Sad pats his belly. Strong Bad pans right, facing the stairs, where portraits of Strong Mad, Strong Sad, Strong Bad and The Cheat are hung, as he imitates a car engine.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{walking down the stairs}'' Down the stairs! Doof-doof-doof-doof.

''{Strong Bad imitates a car engine again, turning right to face Strong Mad, who is standing near the front door by a table with two Neighborhood Style pizzas from The Pizz, with a third on the floor. He moves the camera over to the pizzas.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ooh! Pizza.

'''STRONG MAD:''' THAT'S THREE WEEKS OLD!

''{Strong Bad pans right to Coach Z, who is standing next to the kitchen area, while still making car sounds.''}

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, watch where you're pointin' that 3D!

''{Strong Bad moves past a couch on his left, and the window and wooden horse and hush puppy signs on the right.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...3D ...

''{He walks through the door; Strong Bad's room can be seen directly opposite, across the hall. He turns right, then left down another flight of stairs.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Witness my amazing videogame styles, in all three of the glorious Ds! ''{at the base of the stairs, he turns left, to see The Cheat sitting on one of two washing machines, below the No Loafing sign}'' Hi, The Cheat.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Depth, ''{turns into the basement, facing the Trogdor machine, then pans left to the couch}'' dimension, and—

''{The music scratches to a stop as Homestar Runner appears from below.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Strong Bad. I've got a low polygon count. ''{smiles}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —dumb idiots.

''{Cut to a blue screen with a crude representation of the Telltale Games logo.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' From the people who made that game "Rabbitdog and Bunnyman", ''{crude drawings of Sam and Max appear, respectively}'' and the geniuses responsible ''{the Videlectrix logo replaces the others, appearing with yellow stars}'' for "Trogdor: Let's Burninate Phonics"—

''{An example of "Trogdor: Let's Burninate Phonics" appears, featuring Trogdor burninating a schwa while two green-suited archers look on from the corners of the screen. "SCHWA!!!" flashes as the symbol turns to dust.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —comes a 3D point-and-click-'em-up adventure ''{a Wiimote spins onto the screen, spinning out to a Powered by The Cheat drawing of a Nintendo Wii on a wooden table}'' that will quite literally leave your Wii console ''{the Wiimote falls to the left of the Wii}'' a smoldering crater.

''{The Wii explodes in a mushroom cloud, leaving a smoldering crater; the Wiimote is knocked into the air, then falls down again. Red scrawled text appears on top of the scene: * GAMe WiLL NOT LiTeRALLY LeAVe YOUR Wii—''unreadable''—ter.}''

'''NARRATOR:''' ''{voiceover}'' Game will not literally leave your Wii console a smoldering crater.

''{Red curtains close, then open again to reveal a pale blue background, which the Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People logo flies into from the top. Music plays.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Presenting Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People!

''{Cut to Strong Bad in the classroom, which is no longer in 3D.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or if you want to get in on the ground floor of the cool abbreviations: SBCG4AP! ''{letters appear as he says them, then the abbreviation acquires orange-yellow drop shadows}''

''{Return to the blue screen with the logo, now with the caption "coming soon".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Coming soon to a WiiWare near me-ware. Er— you-ware.

''{Music stops, and the scene fades out, then back in to the back of Bubs' Concession Stand, where Strong Bad stands in the middle of Bubs, Strong Mad, Coach Z, The Cheat and Pom Pom.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh yeah man, the Super FX chip, that red thing you stuck in the N64, Mode 7 — and they even had to invent Mode 8 just for this game!

'''BUBS:''' You seen any graphics yet?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Not yet, but I sent them this concept art, ''{holds up a piece of paper with a drawing of himself holding a big knife, standing next to The Cheat}'' and I'm pretty sure they're going to stick close to my vision.

''{Close-up on the drawing, accompanied by heavy-metal chords. It features a heavily-built Strong Bad with robot legs, webbing between his torso and arms, wearing spiky armor on his left arm and wielding a big knife in his right hand. A spark runs between the extended tips of his mask. He has a vicious-looking, slender The Cheat on a chain-link leash with a studded collar. "learn more at telltalegames.com" appears at the bottom, alongside the "back" link.}''

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Polygon mesh|Polygon count]] is the number of polygons being used for a 3D model. Low polygon count allows for fast rendering but reduces detail. As the viewer can see, Homestar's mouth does not appear to be moving in great detail.

===Trivia===
*This cartoon appears to be in 24 frames per second for the 3D cutscenes, instead of the usual 12. This makes the animation smoother, yet more awkward and faster than usual. The last frame rate "substitute" was in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]], when it was bumped up to 20 fps for a 3D effect.

===Remarks===
*The Flash file is hosted on Telltale Game's website, as seen [http://telltale.vo.llnwd.net/o15/videos/sbcg4ap/3Dtrailer.swf here].
*The link at the end of the ad, "[http://telltalegames.com/strongbad learn more at telltalegames.com]", was inactive at first, and activated soon after the cartoon's release.
*[[Strong Sad's Room|Strong Sad's room]] is now to the left of Strong Bad's computer desk, rather than to the right as seen in [[gimmicks]].
*The [[TV Time Toons Menu]] for [[HR:menuswfs/menu_sbcg4ap.swf|the toon]] is in its usual 12 frames per second, while it's 30 in the toon itself.
*This cartoon was the first of two promotional videos released on the same day to advertise Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People, the other being a [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Gameplay Trailer|gameplay trailer]].

===Glitches===
*The cartoon will not load up properly when viewed using the Wii. Most of the scenes will show only a blank white screen and some of the texts in the entire cartoon are missing. Trogdor is missing during the Trogdor: Let's Burninate Phonics (but fire still burninates the schwa). The last scene doesn't show most of Bubs' Concession Stand, Strong Mad's Body is missing (but his face and limbs are still showing) and only Coach Z's arms show up.

===Inside References===
*An application ending in .wad was used in the email [[secret identity]].
*In the drawing at the end, Strong Bad is holding a [[Big Knives|Big Knife]].
*The first 3D game Strong Bad pops up is similar to that of [[Extra Real Dating Sim XR]], which first appeared in [[date]].
*Advertisements being pronounced as "ad-VER-tis-ments" first appeared in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 15.2]].
*[[Minor Foods#Temporarios|Temporarios]] and [[Minor Foods#Suge Brown|Suge Brown]] boxes appear on the counter in the kitchen.
*The "The Cheat, watch your freakin' back, Squeaky." picture and the wood burning of a horse from [[no loafing]] are on the wall in the living room
*The [[:Image:Trailer pony.PNG|"Dare to Be Danged!!!"]] Unicorn on a snowmobile poster from [[portrait]] is hanging up in Strong Bad's Room.
*The Strong Bad character says "[[Crap|Holy crap!]]", which was previously referenced in [[rated]], for Strong Bad not saying it for over 4 years.
*Strong Bad pronounces "Bunnyman" as "[["Man" pronounced as "m'n"|Bunnym'n]]".
*The "schwa" sound (Trogdor's burninating sound effect) was previously referenced in [[from work]].
*The "GAMe WiLL NOT LiTeRALLY" message contains [[lowercase i's]].
*Strong Mad stands by [[pizza]] boxes from [[The Pizz]].
*Strong Bad refers to his amazing videogame [[style]]s.
*The Wii [[Explosions|explodes]].

===Real-World References===
*The [[Wikipedia:Super FX|Super FX Chip]] was used in games like [[Wikipedia:Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island|Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island]] and [[Wikipedia:StarFox (SNES)|Star Fox]] to provide sprite scaling and rotation.
*"N64" is an abbreviation of "[[Nintendo#Nintendo 64|Nintendo 64]]," Nintendo's first console capable of display 3D graphics using more advanced methods. The "red thing" Strong Bad mentions is the [[Wikipedia:Expansion Pak|Expansion Pak]], a memory enhancement add-on.
*[[Wikipedia:Mode 7|Mode 7]] originated on the [[Nintendo#Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES)|Super NES video game console]], on which it describes a simple texture mapping graphics mode that allows a background layer to be rotated and scaled, as if in 3D.
*The [[Videlectrix]] poster in the stairwell is a parody of an [[Nintendo#Nintendo Entertainment System (NES)|NES]] [http://trsrockin.com/images/powerposter.jpg poster] included with many games.
[[Image:VidelectrixPoster.png|thumb|Now you're playing with power- Videlectrix power!]]
*Rabbit Dog and Bunny Man are the characters [[Wikipedia:Sam & Max|Sam and Max]], another game by [[Telltale Games]].
*The ".wad" extension of the first 3D game shown is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Doom WAD|WAD files]], as used in games like [[Wikipedia:Doom (video game)|''Doom'']].

==External Links==
*[[HR:sbcg4ap.html|watch the advertisement for "Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People"]]
*[http://telltale.vo.llnwd.net/o15/videos/sbcg4ap/3Dtrailer.swf View the Flash file for "Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People" on Telltale's site]
*[[Forum:13870|forum thread re: "Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People" advertisement]]

File:VidelectrixPoster.png

ComputerBox — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:56:42 GMT

ComputerBox: The Videlectrix poster, from Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Advertisement.

== Summary ==
The [[Videlectrix]] poster, from [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Advertisement]].
== Licensing ==
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Talk:SBCG4AP Advertisement

ComputerBox — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:42:48 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Let me guess... */

Limozeen Live! - 27 Mar 2008

ComputerBox — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:56:21 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Trivia */

{{about|March 27, 2008 performance by Limozeen}} ''For the band practice video leading up to the show, see [[Limozeen Live!]]
[[Image:LimozeenShowLive.jpg|thumb|Rockin' out, for reals]]
The '''[[Limozeen]] Live!''' performance on March 27, 2008 was hosted by [[Y-O-U]] and was posted on [[YouTube]] on April 4, 2008 by "[[Teeg Dougland|tdougland]]".

The members of Limozeen were portrayed by the following musicians, most of whom are members of Y-O-U:

*[[Larry Palaroncini]] (vocals) - [[Matt Chapman]]
*[[Gary Palaroncini]] (lead guitar) - J. Christopher Arrison
*[[Perry Palaroncini]] (bass) - Pete Olsen
*[[Mary Palaroncini]] (drums) - Mark Cobb
*[[Harry Palaroncini]] (rhythm guitar) - Nick Niespodziani
*[[Terry Palaroncini]] (keyboards) - Mark Bencuya

{{clear}}
== Set List ==
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=4 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Song !! Description !! Length !! width = 7% | Link !! Notes
|-id="We_Don't_Really_Even_Care_About_You"
|[[We Don't Really Even Care About You]] || Limozeen covers Sloshy's number 84 (on the college charts) hit! || 2:32 || {{linkbox|dmO305aRcw8|watch|YouTube}} ||
|-
|-id="Nite_Mamas"
|[[Nite Mamas]] || "50 miles an hour ain't no way to live your life..." || 2:44 || {{linkbox|BErH-KLJO90|watch|YouTube}} ||
|-
|-id="Colorin'"
|[[coloring|Colorin']] || This song is quite possibly the only metal song about crayons. || 2:34 || {{linkbox|rRMjfNIth5Y|watch|YouTube}} ||
|-
|-id="Showdown"
|[[montage|Showdown]] || The Palaroncini brothers make time for a light workout in the middle of this inspirational rocker. || 3:58 || {{linkbox|GHeWGQneLN8|watch|YouTube}} ||
|-
|-id="Feed_The_Childrens"
|[[bottom 10|Feed the Childrens]] || Limozeen's touching benefit song: Feed the Childrens || 1:31 || {{linkbox|ngyNgMKK0xU|watch|YouTube}} ||
|-
|-id="Today_is_Alright_4_2Nite"
|[[dangeresque 3|Today is Alright 4 2Nite]] || From the closing credits of 'Dangeresque 1: Dangeresque, Too?' || 2:53 || {{linkbox|bGyWCFOsPWE|watch|YouTube}} ||
|-
|-id="Women_and_Men"
|Women and Men || Acoustic guitars and stools. That's all ya need. || 3:51 || {{linkbox|KMVhoxhvvwA|watch|YouTube}} || New song
|-
|-id="Livin'_It_Up"
|[[haircut|Livin' It Up (It's Tough Bein' A Box)]] || Frontman Larry introduces us to the rest of the boys in Limozeen. || 4:53 || {{linkbox|GpTzlaH3uqg|watch|YouTube}} ||
|-
|-id="Brain_Sister"
|[[Summer Short Shorts|Brain Sister]] || Smart girls can be hot, too. Sometimes. || 2:41 || {{linkbox|Yz3YTRkXsww|watch|YouTube}} ||
|-
|-id="Because_It's_Midnite"
|[[Because It's Midnite]] || Heart of a lion...check. Wings of a bat...double check. || 3:51 || {{linkbox|Z9kt9NRfoeM|watch|YouTube}} ||
|-
|-id="Moving_Very_Slowly"
|[[Moving Very Slowly]] || Taranchula frontman Schenkel McDoo joins Limozeen onstage for a happy song. || 4:38 || {{linkbox|JPtb77uH6ck|watch|YouTube}} || Featuring [[Taranchula]] lead singer Schenkel McDoo.
|-
|-id="Trogdor"
|[[Trogdor (song)|Trogdor]] || S and more different S collide!! || 2:46 || {{linkbox|HV9wGImVGL0|watch|YouTube}} || Featuring [[Strong Bad]] in Schenkel McDoo's body.
|-
|-id="Fhqwhgads"
|[[Everybody to the Limit|Fhqwhgads]] || After possessing Schenkel McDoo, Strong Bad tears up the #1 Jam of the Summer. || 4:15 || {{linkbox|wLdfhxyFtX8|watch|YouTube}} || Featuring Strong Bad in Schenkel McDoo's body.
|-
|-id="The_Cheat_Is_Not_Dead"
|[[The Cheat Is Not Dead]] || Limozeen helps Strong Bad rejoice in The Cheat's still-alive status. || 4:30 || {{linkbox|t5gev7g6ldE|watch|YouTube}} || Featuring Strong Bad in Schenkel McDoo's body.
|-
|}

==Trivia==
*Before Strong Bad sings "Fhqwhgads", he says, "This one's an oldie...at least, it's an oldie where I come from." and "It's a blues riff in B. Watch me for the changes." This is a reference to [[wikipedia:Back to the Future|Back to the Future]] where the same lines are spoken by Marty McFly.
*Larry claims that Limozeen wrote "Today Is Alright 4 2nite," but in [[dangeresque 3]], the credits claimed that it was written and performed by Strong Bad.

==External Links==
*[[HR:limolive.html|View the notice]]
*[[HR:limolive.swf|View the Flash file for the notice]]
*[http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=tdougland View video list on "tdougland"'s Youtube profile]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmO305aRcw8&feature=PlayList&p=D2702357A4D6C778&index=0&playnext=1 Playlist showing all the clips in order]
*[[Forum:13686|forum thread re: "Limozeen Live!"]]

{{Template:Limozeen}}
[[Category:Limozeen]]
[[Category:Interviews and Public Appearances]]

Talk:Trogday 08

ComputerBox — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:51:40 GMT

ComputerBox:

==I'm [adjective] Strong Bad==

Haven't we heard a sentence of this form before? I can't remember where it was, but it seems like it might be worth noting, since it's a pretty unusual way to introduce yourself.

yeah check out my edit in inside references

==Children singing==
*Anyone want to take a guess at what the children backup singers are singing? It's certainly not "Zee S is for sucks". Sounds like random babbling. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 18:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
:: I don't think they're following every word of the song exactly, but I do think they're singing "The S is for Sucks". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:33, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

You know those are the Chaps' kids singing back there. We'll probably never get that confirmed, though.
:No. They're like not even 2 and 1 years old. Seems like they are using the same method(s) they used to make kids voices for [[Intro]], [[Super NES]], and [[for kids]]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:49, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

== Constabulate? ==

Where's Constabulate from (Constabulate V's)? [[User:124.188.66.94|124.188.66.94]] 20:16, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
:Sounds like a corruption of "consummate Vs" from [[dragon]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:41, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

:That was my thinking. If the real Trogdor had "consummate V's" then the V's on this must have some other description. It's certainly not used in [[dragon]], or anywhere else on the site, for that matter.
:--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 21:41, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

:Note that the dragon is wearing a police constable's hat when that line is said. -[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 16:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

== Why the return ==

Can somebody explian why it the s is suck dragons back and the dragon is water type just you know
:This is really good talk for the forum, why don't you look there? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

== Coach Z's Arms ==

Hey, i just noticed that in the easter egg at the end of this toon, Coach Z's arms are animated differently than they have been previously. They seem to be drawn frame by frame, as opposed to being two symbols that are manipulated. Does this merit mention on the "Remarks" section? -Mason
:Why not? Just don't make it too technical or people might get confused and delete it. [[User:MNGoldenEagle|MNGoldenEagle]] 05:05, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

==The Dragon At The End Of The Video==
Considering he sings the heavy metal song for the S is for Sucks Dragon, I think that the dragon at the end is the S is for Sucks Dragon, and not Trogdor. The trivia here is therefore wrong. What do you guys think? {{unsigned|71.225.45.178|06:07, 15 January 2008}}
:The jaw is all wrong for The S is for Sucks (note the nostril especially). Further, why would The S is for Sucks be annoyed with Strong Bad for ignoring Trogdor? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:11, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::Personally, I think it would make more sense if it were the S is for Sucks Dragon, yelling at Strong Bad that he wants his own heavy metal song and not a children's song (so as to be on equal footing with Trogdor), hence Strong Bad saying "Yes sir, right away sir!" followed by him singing a heavy metal song for S is for Sucks Dragon. But DorianGray is right, it is Trogdor's snout... not sure why Strong Bad says "Yes sir, right away sir!" followed by a heavy metal song for S is for Sucks dragon (and NOT Trogdor), but hey, [[Drive-Thru|logic has escaped the Homestar Runner universe before]]. [[User:MNGoldenEagle|MNGoldenEagle]] 06:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
:::The intent seems to have been to communicate that Trogdor was upset with Strong Bad not because he (Trogdor) was being ignored, but because Strong Bad said he (Strong Bad) liked the children's song better than Trogdor's heavy metal music. I guess Trogdor really likes metal and wanted to hear some! I agree that it was odd, but.. [[Portmanteaus|irridisregardless]], it was definitely Trogdor at the window. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:37, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Why are you guys agreeing that it is Trogdor based on the nose, despite everything else. Can't it be that the dragon at the window is a realistic version of S is for Sucks Dragon? I mean, you have theory which is "The Snout is Trogdors, so it must be Trogdor despite all the evidence." compared to "The Snout is wrong, but the dragon must be S if for Sucks." Can't it be the latter? -{{unsigned|71.225.45.178|later, 15 January 2008}}
:::::The snout ''is'' the evidence. If you update the S is for Sucks dragon to be realistic, it's no longer the S is for Sucks dragon (his entire existence is based on the fact that he doesn't look natural). Given that the snout fits exactly with Trogdor, and not at all with the S is for Sucks, I don't see how we can conclude that this is the S is for Sucks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:08, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Furthermore, we did in fact see an updated (though still not realistic) version of the S is for Sucks: The one that appears during the heavy metal song. This version likewise looks nothing like the dragon at the window. Is it likely that TBC would make two different versions of the S is for Sucks, then make another that looks nothing like the other two and looks exactly like Trogdor? I think not. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
S is for Sucks dragon doesn't have a jaw, the dragon at the window obviously did. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:33, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:DNA Evidence (running gag)

ComputerBox — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:42:05 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Umm, this sounds like they all have to do with each other. */

{{talk}}
Is there gonna be some kinda cryptic sub-plot behind this DNA evidence? --[[User:Das654|Das654]] 17:11, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
:Your guess is as good as ours. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

== Umm, this sounds like they all have to do with each other. ==

<blockquote>
1. Strong Bad takes DNA evidence and tampers with it ("...and that's when I tampered with the DNA evidence!")
2. Movie character notices it's gone. ("...and that's when I noticed the DNA evidence was gone!")
3. Strong Bad puts it back and Marzipan suspects that it's been tampered with ("...and that's when I thought the DNA evidence had been tampered with!")
</blockquote>

Now, before anyone tells me to go onto the forum, does anyone think this qualifies for a sub-plot page? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 18:58, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

:No, there's not enough going on for an actual plot, yet.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:29, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

::If there ever is enough, we can assume that in [[your funeral]] Homestar was trying to find the original evidence. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Sounds like a plot to me. We do have 4 appearences, all seeming to have some sort of plot, in my opinion. I think if the next email has DNA evidence in it, maybe we should add a new section to the page about the sub-plot (although not neccessarily a new page altogether). {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 22:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::::There may be a plot behind these occurrences, but it would only be guesswork for us right now. I'm sure we'll find out soon enough if there is an actual plot behind it or not. Patience!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::I hope this isn't too forum-esque, but if there is an ending to this plot, I think a character will find the evidence and hold it above his head. "I found it! The DNA evidence!" --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 22:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Imagine if they do it all year and it turns out the evidence was a vital piece of figuring out what happened to Decemberween 2005! [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:53, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:Decemberween 2005 was moved to [[Decemberween in July|July]], right? Anyway, I'm hoping that [http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1807550 this] will happen in some form... --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 13:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::[http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1807553 Objection to myself!] --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 13:42, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it would be sheer brilliance if they were to continue this until email 173, culminating in [[The Paper]]'s replacement somehow. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

==Film Noir==

I think it's also noteworthy that Homestar hangs up a trenchcoat and fedora when Marzipan asks if he's found the DNA evidence yet... -Cyndentia

:Although trenchcoats and fedoras are a common theme among film noir, it's probably not related and could be any number of things. Knowing TBC, one would expect them to grossly exaggerate such a reference, such as reducing the entire scene to white on black and then having Homestar actually notice the change. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== All but one? ==

Bad Bad Guy brought up the fact that the only email of aught seven to not include a joke about the DNA evidence is [[looking old]]. I'm kinda iffy on this one, and would like to hear peoples opinions. In conclusion, should we add it or not? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 21:31, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
: Given that [[Coach Z|awrt-severn]] only has five emails so far, I say leave it off for now. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:32, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Talk:DNA Evidence (running gag)

ComputerBox — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:39:19 GMT

ComputerBox:

{{talk}}
Is there gonna be some kinda cryptic sub-plot behind this DNA evidence? --[[User:Das654|Das654]] 17:11, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
:Your guess is as good as ours. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

== Umm, this sounds like they all have to do with each other. ==

<blockquote>
1. Strong Bad takes DNA evidence and tampers with it ("...and that's when I tampered with the DNA evidence!")
2. Movie character notices it's gone. ("...and that's when I noticed the DNA evidence was gone!")
3. Strong Bad puts it back and Marzipan suspects that it's been tampered with ("...and that's when I thought the DNA evidence had been tampered with!")
</blockquote>

Now, before anyone tells me to go onto the forum, does anyone think this qualifies for a sub-plot page? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 18:58, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

:No, there's not enough going on for an actual plot, yet.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:29, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

::If there ever is enough, we can assume that in [[your funeral]] Homestar was trying to find the original evidence. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Sounds like a plot to me. We do have 4 appearences, all seeming to have some sort of plot, in my opinion. I think if the next email has DNA evidence in it, maybe we should add a new section to the page about the sub-plot (although not neccessarily a new page altogether). {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 22:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::::There may be a plot behind these occurrences, but it would only be guesswork for us right now. I'm sure we'll find out soon enough if there is an actual plot behind it or not. Patience!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:14, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::I hope this isn't too forum-esque, but if there is an ending to this plot, I think a character will find the evidence and hold it above his head. "I found it! The DNA evidence!" --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 22:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Imagine if they do it all year and it turns out the evidence was a vital piece of figuring out what happened to Decemberween 2005! [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:53, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:Decemberween 2005 was moved to [[Decemberween in July|July]], right? Anyway, I'm hoping that [http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1807550 this] will happen in some form... --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 13:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it would be sheer brilliance if they were to continue this until email 173, culminating in [[The Paper]]'s replacement somehow. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

==Film Noir==

I think it's also noteworthy that Homestar hangs up a trenchcoat and fedora when Marzipan asks if he's found the DNA evidence yet... -Cyndentia

:Although trenchcoats and fedoras are a common theme among film noir, it's probably not related and could be any number of things. Knowing TBC, one would expect them to grossly exaggerate such a reference, such as reducing the entire scene to white on black and then having Homestar actually notice the change. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== All but one? ==

Bad Bad Guy brought up the fact that the only email of aught seven to not include a joke about the DNA evidence is [[looking old]]. I'm kinda iffy on this one, and would like to hear peoples opinions. In conclusion, should we add it or not? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 21:31, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
: Given that [[Coach Z|awrt-severn]] only has five emails so far, I say leave it off for now. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:32, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Fourth Wall Breaks

ComputerBox — Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:51:10 GMT

ComputerBox: This part was kind of awkward-sounding, so I condensed it and put it in the second paragraph.

[[Image:fourthwalling.png|thumb|Good morning, reality!]]

Sometimes, the [[Characters|characters]] '''break the [[Wikipedia:Fourth wall|fourth wall]]''' by displaying awareness that they are in an Internet cartoon.

Fourth wall breakages are common in [[Strong Bad Email]]s; Strong Bad often addresses the viewers, and references to his "email show" are made. Some of these supposed "fourth wall breaks" may be explained by assuming that Strong Bad has a live [[Wikipedia:webcam|webcam]] show in which he answers e-mails, or that he is talking to an imaginary audience, but in other instances the characters actually refer to the fact that they are in cartoons, which is a real fourth wall break. Excluding Strong Bad Emails that involve a character addressing the viewers, here is a list of fourth wall breakages in the toons.

== Fourth Wall Breakages ==

=== Big Toons ===

*[[Weclome Back]]: All of the characters (including the King of Town) punch in on a time clock after returning from a vacation. Marzipan wonders whether anyone has been "taking care of the website." Homestar Runner says "It's time to get this www-dot-show back on the road-dot-com."
*[[Where's The Cheat?]]: While reassuring Strong Mad, Strong Bad says "Don't worry, big guy. We'll cut to a montage. I mean, find The Cheat."
*[[In Search of the Yello Dello]] and [[The King of Town DVD]]: Characters doing commentaries and being in previews for the toons that are DVDs show that they know it was a cartoon. Strong Bad even calls one of the toons a cartoon several times.
*[[In Search of the Yello Dello]]: The TV announcer says that [[The Yello Dello|the Yello Dello]] is "the most rare and beautiful bird in this entire cartoon."

=== Shorts ===

*[[No Hands On Deck!]]: Homestar says, "I'd better get back to work if I'm gonna build a deck in this cartoon!"
*[[Cheat Commandos]]: There are many breakages, such as [[Gunhaver]] saying "Buy all our playsets and toys," "Next episode, Blue Laser," and "Into the action figure storage vehicle!"
*[[The System is Down]]: Here are references to both the [[Error Page]] and [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestarrunner.com]] being down.

=== Holiday Toons ===

*[[More Fan Costumes]]: Strong Bad comments that [[Coach Z]], [[King of Town]] and [[Marzipan]] are the least popular ''Homestar Runner'' characters.
*[[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]: Throughout the [[Wikipedia:cold open|cold open]], Homestar directly addresses the viewer. When he comes upon [[Homsar]], he remarks "Oh, great. The secret guy" and then comments on the choices that Homsar "gives" him. Then when he reaches the [[Cliffs#Creepy Cliff|Creepy Cliff]], he refers to it as a "cool new background." Finally, in the [[The Goblin|Goblin]] ending, Marzipan declares the end of the scene.
*[[Homestar Presents: Presents]]: Strong Bad informs the viewers that Homestar runs around frantically from [[Decemberween]] to New Year's, then, in the Easter egg, there is a poster on the wall that reads, "Left Out Characters' Support Group & Buffet."
*[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]: When [[Bubs]] shows frustration that Coach Z mangles his words yet again, Coach Z replies that "It's a crowd-pleaser."
*[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]: During the end discussion, Homestar comments first whether the viewers have voted yet (a feature for that year's toon), and then requests that the characters repeat stuff they have already said to freak "them" out, indicating that the characters know they are being watched.
*In [[A Holiday Greeting]], the main characters wish us "[[Wikipedia:Happy Holiday(s)|Happy Holidays]] from all of us to all of you".

=== Strong Bad Emails ===

*[[theme song]]: Besides the whole idea of a theme song for his show, Strong Bad says he gives us a new email song every freakin' week.
*[[keep cool]]: Strong Bad interrupts the email (he rises up from below the frame), to explain the difference between [[Strong Badia]] and the rest of [[Free Country, USA]]. He then offers a high five. He also says "Note to viewers" before everything else.
*[[candy product]]: Strong Bad says he'll have a candy product "by the end of this email".
*[[narrator]]: Strong Bad said that Strong Sad had made corrections in three emails in a row, the first two being [[secret identity]] and [[technology]]
*[[highschool]]: Strong Bad says that he was "probably just like other cartoons" in his high school days.
*[[bottom 10]]: After the end of the email, Strong Bad acknowledges that there are no Easter eggs at the end.
*[[part-time job]]: Strong Bad peeks around the edge of the black on his way to [[Bubs' Concession Stand|Bubs']].
*[[animal]]: Strong Bad says that a man with a laptop computer comes "from the right side of the screen."
*[[virus]]: [[The Virus]] opens most of the characters' minds to realize that they are in a cartoon.
*[[old comics]]: Strong Bad says he and Homestar were used in a comic that was printed at least 60 years ago. Since they are obviously not that old, he is pointing out the fact that he and Homestar are unaging cartoon characters.
*[[crying]]: Strong Bad states (or rather sings) that he "will not sing an email song this week."
*[[dangeresque 3]]: Strong Bad asks the audience to resist the urge to throw full wine bottles at the screen.
*[[flashback]]: The size of the display area is purposefully extended and Homestar Runner is (and has apparently often been) "behind the black."
*[[monument]]: Homestar peeks out from behind the black as he sings, "Here comes the Thnikkaman!"
*[[video games]]: Strong Bad turns and yells directly at the camera saying "'Cause you can't control me!"
*[[couch patch]]: Strong Bad points out that the couch patch is clearly already present in Homestar's flashback, and Homestar says he got confused about the title of the e-mail.
*[[the process]]: Strong Bad spends the whole cartoon explaining how his other emails were/would be done. He also says "you can usually click on certain words and make little pictures of dumb stuff pop up."
*[[huttah!]]: [[The Cheat]] actually watches the email on his own computer.
*[[island]]: When Yami Yugi asks what Strong Bad would do if he were stuck on a desert island, Strong Bad nonchalantly replies, "I suspect it would be like most cartoons". Later, [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] imitates [[Main Page 3]], with similar effects.
*[[your friends]]: Strong Bad states that he's giving the fans what they want.
*[[little animal]]: Strong Bad talks about the people watching the e-mail at home.
*[[stand-up]]: Strong Sad tells you to come with him.

=== Not Quite Strong Bad Emails ===
*[[Not the 100th Email!!!]]: References to the 404 page and the user poking around the site.
*[[Sbemail 150?!?]]: Strong Sad has prepared storyboards to help Strong Bad with the email.

=== Special Toons ===

*[[First Time Here?]]: Sets the stage for fourth wall breakages, especially when Strong Bad shows up to let you know why you're here.

=== Marzipan's Answering Machine ===

*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0]]: Homestar says, "This is Homestar Runner from HomestarRunner.com".

=== Games ===

*[[Thy Dungeonman 3]]: If you talk to some of the characters, they mention events that happened "screens" ago.
*[[Stinkoman 20X6]]: When [[1-Up]] requests Stinkoman's help, Stinkoman says that he already helped him in Level 4. At the beginning of Level 6, Stinkoman appears to be playing his own game. At the beginning of Level -0, Stinkoman addresses the player while he's stuck sad inside the wall. Also, at the end of Level -0, Stinkoman says he has to get through Level 9 and Level 10 to get to 1-Up and [[Pan Pan]]. Then, at the opening cinematic of level 9, the [[Shadowy Figure]] says, "So he thinks he can get to level 10, eh?"
*[[Peasant's Quest]]: If you talk to the [[Dongolev|second]] "[[Unusual Greetings#Haldo|Haldo]]" brother and say "Haldo" without talking to the [[Mendelev|first one]] (the one at the booth), he will say, "What'd you read that in PQ Stragedy Guide? Go talk to my brother first." On a related note, if you type "throw baby" before you actually ''get'' the baby, the game will say that you must have "misread the walkthrough on [[Wikipedia:GameFAQs|GameFAQS]]." Also, if you type "get broom" in Naked Ned's house, the game will say, "No no. The broom is in the foreground and you can't take things in the foreground. You don't see me all typing 'get browser window', do you?"

=== Character Pages ===

*[[Strong Sad]]: On Strong Sad's character page, he complains about making a "character page", and later runs his finger down the left side of the screen.

=== Teen Girl Squad ===

*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11|Issue 11]]: Cheerleader is seen reading the script for the issue, and asking how "uggs" is spelled.

===DVDs===
*[[strongbad_email.exe]] (all discs): Homestar walks by an FBI warning. Also, Strong Bad will say your time's up on Bonus Stuff.
*[[strongbad_email.exe Disc One]]: Strong Bad tells [[The Paper]] to "show these morons what to do". Then, The Paper will tell you to make your choice.
*[[strongbad_email.exe Disc Three]]: Homestar and Strong Bad wonder where you are, Homestar suggests that perhaps you are making a sandwich, and Strong Bad orders you to bring them some cold ones.
*[[strongbad_email.exe Disc Four]]: The [[Female Lappy 486]] asks Strong Bad what's taking them so long.
*[[Everything Else, Volume 1]]: Strong Bad says there are no emails on the DVD. Homestar tells you to make up your choice.

===Other===
*[[Podstar Runner]] (emails only): Strong Bad asks, "What am I doing in this tiny box?" and shatters the screen trying to get out.
*[[Store]]: Most of the [[Store Thank You Messages|thank you messages]] break the fourth wall, especially [[Store Thank You Messages#Back Door Message|the "bonus" message]].

[[Category:Lists]]

Talk:road trip

ComputerBox — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 22:27:52 GMT

ComputerBox: How long's it been?

==The car==
Would it be too much of a stretch to infer that the Gremlin (mentioned in this toon to be Bubs's car) is the car that The Cheat won from Bubs in the Easter egg in [[pop-up]]? It's kinda speculatory, but it's possible it's a reference, it all fits together... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:50, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
: Not main page material, but it's an interesting thought. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
:(Edit Conflict) No, it's not too much of a stretch. The Cheat wins the car for Strong Bad ("Now get back in there and win me a car!"), and both SB and TC treat the car as SB's in this email. It was also only 10 emails away.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::What about Strong Bad already being seen in the car in [[dangeresque 3]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Dangeresque 3 was years before The Cheat won the car. They could have just borrowed it from Bubs back then (which is what they could have done now as well, of course).{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:44, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::::Then how did he get out of it when he had finished that scene if the doors and windows are broken? [[User:210.54.74.240|210.54.74.240]] 07:52 PM, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::The cameraman, or The Cheat, or someone could have opened it for him, perhaps? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::::::It's entirely possible that the dorrs and windows weren't busted back then.

::If it is, what happened to the key that Bubs gave The Cheat when he won the car, I wonder?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 18:26, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

== Honk 'em if ya got 'em or smoke 'em if ya got 'em? ==

I remember a cigarette company whose motto was "Smoke 'em if ya got 'em". Possibly a real-world reference? {{User:Steve/sig}} 11:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

:It's also a song by Parkway Drive, apparently. We'll see if it gets stuff'd. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 12:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

:More likely just a cross between the saying "Flaunt 'em (it) if you got 'em (it)" and the various "Honk if..." bumper stickers. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 20:37, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

==Forwards Compatible==

Yet another of Strong Bad's lack of knowledge of modern technology. Loved that part, and the part about the "other world, with another The Cheat and Strong Bad...stuck in a Gremlin". Best part of the whole toon. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:04, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

== New Fun fact ==

I noticed that the email isn't on the email menu yet. Someone put that one in, please.

== How long's it been? ==

I think this is the first time in a while that Strong Bad has ended his e-mail with an "Until next time" comment. Is anyone not-lazy enough to check out when the last time was that he did that? --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 22:27, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Talk:road trip

ComputerBox — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 22:27:17 GMT

ComputerBox: How long's it been?

Talk:long pants

ComputerBox — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:37:49 GMT

ComputerBox: /* screen "goof"? */

__FORCETOC__
== General Email Reaction ==

Not one of the best Strong Bad Emails I've seen. There are some good points, such as Strong Bad's electronic (and permanent) eraser pen, and the return of the almighty BMW lighter, but sadly it was Homestar's constant yelling of "LONG PANTS! LONG PANTS!" that started to show its' down parts. Good try, but not one of the best. 3/5 --[[User:82.37.217.206|82.37.217.206]] 09:08, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I disagree, I thought this e-mail was hilarious and the "LONG PANTS!" part was great. I thought this was much better than [[best thing]] (though not as good as [[rock opera]]). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]

::Ditto. "Long long long long long long pants" was probably the funniest part, too, considering how Homestar just randomly shows up on the Lappy like he did. That and the edited e-mail was hilarious, too. Clown care... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:39, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Strong Bad's Eyes ==

I'm loathe to STUFF the Trivia item about Strong Bad's eyes narrowing, as it's obviously the very first time this happened (caught it after watching it the second time), but then, it's a weak Fun Fact. I think it should stay though. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 14:45, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I definately say keep it. Personally I find these observations quite interesting, illustrating the evolving complexity of the HR animation. On that note - correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this email the first time we see Strong Bad crossing his legs, and bending his right arm across them? --[[User:Lor|Lor]] 22:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I'd keep it myself, considering it is, AFAIK, true. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:39, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Were me and my friends the only one curious as to why he never wore pants? The day this came out, we had a length discussion about it. I give it a 5 of 5, and that'll be that. --[[User:Heebewhammer23|Heebrewhammer23]]

== Hidden message in fortune cookies ==

As you hover over the fortune cookies, they break open and the fortunes move forward, unfolding. If you take a screenshot just before the fortune is completely spread out, you can see a secret message on the fortunes. It reads "You are not as good as most people." Here's the bitmap screenshot I grabbed: --[[User:68.165.246.205|68.165.246.205]] 20:52, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

http://www.ifcdata.com/mb/pix/hrsecret.jpg

:Almost looks like it says "You are not as good as Matt, People" - [[User:Futuramaooy|Futuramaooy]] 21:36, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I found that too (using Flash Decompiler) and was about to add it, but seeing as it's been addressed here, I'll just ask if anyone else thinks it's worth noting. I, for one, do. --[[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 20:19, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:WOAH....i just really noticed that. I think it is worthy of putting in Fun Facts, though I am sure that if you do you will risk lots of people telling you that its not real...I think it is intended, though. --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:13, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

:This is in [[Fortune Cookies]] too. There's also "You are very dead"which happens a split second earlier. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:18, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Dubious ==
It's not the first time his eyes narrow. They do in sbemail 74 when The Cheat comes from the other side of the screen. Only for a second though. also in morning routine, but he's kinda squinting from the bottom up...

Yeah, he's squinted from the bottom up like a million times before. This IS the first time his upper eyelid has lowered. - [[User:Miss Free Country USA|princess]]

== "Kertified Klown Kare" a reference to Krusty? ==

This fun fact should be STUFFed. Use of "K"s as a substitute letter in commercial names is very very common, and was common long before Krusty the Klown. Think of "Kit Kat", "Kwik Kopy", "Kar Kare", etc. --[[User:208.0.20.2|208.0.20.2]] 16:33, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Then STUFF it. We aren't gonna stop you. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:40, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

:: Well, in this case, it's already STUFFed (now it is, anyway.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 22:42, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::So much the better, then. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 22:44, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Wassup! ==

I don't really know what to do with this, but I think it's kind of cool.

While trying to freeze the screen at the exact right time to get the fortune cookies to read "You are not as good as most people," (which is very hard to do), I caught this:

[[Image:wassup_2.png]]

It looks like it says "Was Sup" on the right side, kind of.
I don't know.

--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 16:55, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:The word on the second line looks more like the beginning of "stupid" to me. -[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 05:01, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT) __NOTOC__

Yeah, it does kind of look like "Was Stup" more than "Was Sup", but if you say "Was Stup" fast, it kind of sounds like "Wats Up". --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 15:05, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:I Think that is stretching it a bit... (pun not intended) --[[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:14, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

== Scroll Buttons and the Lappy.... ==

Strong Bad really needs a new email rap. The Scroll buttons and the Lappy have been together for some time now, and this fact warrants no further reiteration. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 18:51, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

I wholeheartedly second this motion!
Wait a second...
What?
You sure?
Okay.
Sorry. What I ''meant'' to say was "I wholeheartedly second this thing!"
--[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 15:38, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

== Closed Fun Facts ==

These were on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page and closed. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

===Breaking the Lappy (DECLINED)===
Strong Bad indicates that The Cheat has a history of breaking the Lappy. Perhaps The Cheat demonstrated this tendency with the Compy 386 as well. This may explain why the Compy apparently bore a grudge against The Cheat, as demonstrated in [[couch patch]].
*'''Decline.''' First, this is really a stretch. Second, The Cheat didn't break the Lappy—Strong Bad was making that up. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:03, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second.''' The Cheat doesn't break the Lappy, Strong Bad just blames him for his own problems. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*I've carefully set aside the time for '''declining''' this fun fact. Strong Bad is obviously using the Cheat as a scapegoat here. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 20:50, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.'''[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07:51, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Rewrite, then accept.''' You have a good foundation, but you rambled a little bit. I would just cut it to the fact that SB said "broke the lappy again," intending that the Cheat maay have broken it before.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 18:08, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*There's gotta be a better word for '''Decline''' Strong Bad simply doesn't want to admit he broke it. [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]

===X-Pensive Winos (DECLINED)===
The text "X-PENSIVE W..." appearing on Strong Bad's 'light pen' before he shakes it up may be a reference to Rolling Stones guitarist [[Wikipedia:Keith Richards|Keith Richards']] solo band the X-Pensive Winos.

*'''Decline.''' Stretchy "might be" reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

*'''Decline.''' The W is for "white". Could be a refence, but could just as easily not be. --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' But we all know that the W stands for "witches' brew." <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 17:41, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Second.''' Interesting, but it's a bit of a stretch. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 14:51, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''X-Pensive Decline.''' Since it is white-out, W for White makes the most sense. And substituting letter sounds for words or word parts is a common practice in product branding... X-tra this, E-Z that, etc. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 06:38, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Is there any evidence TBC are a fan of, or even aware of, this group? They seem to be more into the punk/alt rock/retro metal scene. [[User:Lucres|Lucres]] 17:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Wecline.''' The W could stand for lots of things. {{HRFWiki:User:Super_Sam/sig}}07:54, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===Rodeo Hot Dogs (DECLINED)===
"Rodeo Hot dogs" is a reference to the old Oscar Meyer mascot.

*'''Decline.''' It's not "Rodeo Hot Dogs", it's "Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs" - meaning the word "rodeo" modifies "clown" not "hot dogs" (in other words, It's a reference to rodeo clowns). Even so, this is a huge stretch. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 00:09, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' There is no stretch as there is no basis in fact for this...fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline.''' Just read the [http://www.kraftfoods.com/om/bn/c_News/news_History1.htm Oscar Meyer company history] looking for a shred of eveidence. I could have missed it, but the article didn't mention a mascot, just the weinermobile. Let's have some evidence before asserting something as a fact! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 08 Apr 2005
*'''decline''' I think you mean the twinkie mascot -smooth criminal
*'''Decline on two fronts.'''' I doubt the Oscar MAYER mascot is a reference, and I doubt Twinkie The Kid is either (he's just a yellow sponge cake cowboy). [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:01, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*A link would have been nice. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:09, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===Overlapped voice (Declined)===
This is one of the few times Strong Bad has used his ability to overlap his own voice. This ability is first introduced in techno.

*'''Decline''' Uninteresting, and disqualified due to the phrase "one of the few". --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:16, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
*'''"DECLINE!"''' For the record, they're FUN facts. --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 08:21, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Ughh... my mouth tastes like... a '''declination'''-worthy fun fact. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:08, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Homestar's Shoes, part 2 (Declined)===
They might not be blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet but actual shoes, according to [[New Boots]] anyway. He also refers to them as shoes in [[Everybody Knows It]], where he says, "So, I guess it's back to putting dog food in my shoes, huh?"

*'''Decline''' Wasn't this bit about Homestar's shoes already tackled and Declined? Also STUFF'd due to conversational style. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting comment. Just make it more factual. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|MFCUSA]]

===Shorter E-mail (Declined)===
This email is much shorter than most recent emails, being at least half a minute shy of its predecessor.

*'''Decline''' This is unnecessary, due to the running time being evident at the top of each e-mail page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Half a minute isn't much, and even if it was, who cares? [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:18, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' And I'm the one who said this. -Walking Armless
*'''Modify and Accept''' I think it could have been because they also released the April Fools gag on the same week, so if you add that information it might be kinda interesting... ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'' 05:07, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**No its still boring. '''decline''' [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Unless it's the shortest one to date (and it's not), forget it. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Klowning Arkound (Declined)===
The fact that "Kertified Klown Kare" has every word starting with K might be a reference to Krusty the Clown, from The Simpsons, who tends to use that letter a lot and is, obviously, a clown.

*'''Severe Decline!''' Man, that leaves a bad taste in my mouth from reading it. It's just what clowns do! -[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 14:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' I'm not saying anything here, but am I the only one who noticed that "Kertified Klown Kare" is basically K.K.K.? --[[User:Nevrmore|Nevrmore]] 18:33, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*There was actually a "K.K.K" joke like that on the Simpsons. Still doesn't make this a reference to it. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*"decline" However, on the simpsons there was the Krusty Komedy Klassic.
*'''Decline''' Lots of things use Ks instead of Cs. (Though I do love the K in place of the ''soft'' C here, that's irrelevant to the fact.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' Yes! Lotsa things use K's instead of C's! Krusty Krab anybody? -[[User: Miss Free Country USA| Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Awww... Get fun!''' Because this "fact" sure isn't. Someone put this on the Klown Kare site I made, and I baleeted it. Whimsical misspellings are done worldwide, not just by Krusty. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:11, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Self-Made Man (Declined)===
Homestar saying "I'm a long-pants man, long pants long pants" is a possible reference to [[Bubs]]' [[Character Videos|Character page]] where he says "I'm a self-made man, I am I am".

*'''Decline''' Just watched Bubs' Character Page, and the line he says sounds nothing like what Homestar says in [[long pants]]. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
* I gotta '''Accept''' this, because my keen ears detect some sort of similarity. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:35, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' What would be the point in referring to Bubs' video anyway? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' It really doesn't seem like a "reference" to me. More like a "coincidence." →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' It does sound similar. It also sound like a reference the Bros Chaps would make. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:28, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
** '''Second''' [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:10, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Reaching. Lower-hanging fruit would be to compare it to HR's own character page where he says "butt dance butt dance", and it still wouldn't be a fun fact for me. [[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 18:41, 4 Apr 2005 (CET)
*'''Decline''' Only vaguely similar, not close enough for moi. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' If it IS a reference, its rhythm actually sounds more like something out of Dr. Seuss. - Walking Armless

===2nd Homestar Crying (Declined)===
This is the second time Homestar cried in an email. The first was [[crying]].

*'''Decline''' First times can be interesting. Second times, not so much. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:48, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' And how... --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:50, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Unless someone can figure out a way to graph it! --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 28 Mar 2005
*'''Decline''' And isn't there another "fun" fact below that was about how [[crying]] showcased the second time a character cried? --[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''"Second."''' [[User:69.3.234.29|69.3.234.29]]([[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:59, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)) 22:57, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Yes there is, Donny. And I'm gonna say what someone said in their vote for the crying fun fact. The word "second" is an immediate disqualification for this being a viable item.
*** An immediate disqualification is also in order for those who don't sign their votes. and '''Delete,''' by the way. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:58, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is so uninteresting. The point of funfacts isn't a place to count how many times who does what. You wouldn't see a fun fact saying that "This is the eighth time Strong Bad blames the Cheat for something in an e-mail" (made number up). I'm declining it basically on the grounds that nobody really cares. -- [[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 9:51 AM 2 April 2005
** '''Second.''' He's got you there, guys. - Walking Armless
** '''Second''' That deserves some applause. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:37, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Red Screen (Declined)===
When Homestar finishes going nuts, the screen turns red, like in [[Where the Crap Are We?]].
*'''Decline.''' Big deal. It's not even the same kind of red. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:17, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
**'''Second.''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 11:29, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I actually thought of this when first saw this e-mail. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 18:06, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Useless and already in transcript. And, BTW, I found a variant of this in Goofs (people need to learn what a "Goof" is!) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Edga Jr., Tompkins, and Ron Cumberdale...long lost triplets? (Declined)===
Edga Jr. bears a striking resemblance to Tompkins and Ron Cumberdale, one of the things the The Three Keepers of Trogdor turn you into if you get one of their questions wrong.

*'''Decline.''' At least in Tompkins' case. I don't think Edga Jr. looks like Tompkins at all. I don't know about Ron Cumberdale...but I doubt it too. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:03, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
* Eh, they all look like generic nerds if anything. '''Decline'''. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' I saw this one earlier and almost STUFF'd it myself. People are REALLY stretching to make references here, aren't they? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak Decline.''' Although [[Edgar#Edga Jr.|Edga Jr.]] does looks like a mix between [[Tompkins]] and [[Ron Cumberdale]], this is a stretch. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Hmm... it's kinda tough to say Cumberdale looks like anyone, seeing as how he's composed of roughly eight pixels. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 15:13, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
Could someone post a picture of the three of them side by side?

Done and done. Now judge for yourself. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:36, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

[[Image:edgajr.png]][[Image:tompkinteen.png]][[Image:roncumberdale.PNG]]

*'''Weak Accept''' Tompkin's face and acne + Ron Cumberdale's hair + Obscure references = Edga Jr. --Yaanu, 9:21 CST, 2 April 2005
* I'm upgrading my vote to '''Strong Decline.''' Edga Jr. has freckles, not pimples, and you can't even really tell from there that Ron Cumberdale has the same hair. [[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 11:48, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declinariffic''' I'm not seeing it. At all. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:53, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declininated!''' Similar, but not enough to be feasible. - Walking Armless
* '''Decline.''' Edga & Ron ... mmmmmmmaybe. If you squint ... really, really hard. Tompkins? No way! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 07 Apr 2005

===Clanky? (Declined)===
"Clanky" is a reference to the popular video game [[Wikipedia:Ratchet & Clank|Ratchet & Clank]].

*'''Revise.''' Replace "is" with "could be". --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:08, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' [[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 23:00, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' "Clanky" was just said as a mispronunciation of Clancy. It's not like Ratchet and Clank coined the word Clank anyway.
**'''Second''' But sign your vote. And I think that any fun fact that cannot be confirmed (could be, might be, its possible that) should be removed or STUFF'D till it can be confirmed. Maybe then kids wouldn't be so eager to try and make a connection to their favorite game/show/movie what have you. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
***'''Decline Second'd, Suggestion Weak Accept'd''' I agree that there are way too many of these types of "possible references" being made, but STUFFing every single one would be REALLY time-consuming and would bloat this page way more than it already is. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
***Well, I don't mean that every un-confirmed fact should get stuffed. But crap like this one where there is clearly no connection could and should be deleted without any fuss or voting. If they author of the fact cares that much they can stuff the fact themselves and post a defense.[[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second''' (the Decline, that is) -- [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 01:29, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 01 Apr 2005
*'''Decline''' Strong Bad always pronounces names and places wrong, I'm positive it has nothing to do with that game. --[[User:Minteh|Minteh]] 12:02, 2 Apr 2005 (MST) 
*'''Decline''' And The Cheat is a reference to Cheato the Spellbook in Banjo-Kazooie! And the King of Town is a reference to King Daphnes in The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker! Or not, since there are about -1 pieces of evidence that there's any intentional correlation at all. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''CHILDREN!''' It's a coincidence. Even that's a stretch, as it isn't "Ratchet and Clanky." [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:40, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''D"Eek!"line.''' TBC are Nintendo-people, at least that's what they said in a interview, I can't remember which one. Isn't Clanky also the name of that big metal fish in Banjo-Kazooie? That would be more obvious. Still not obvious, but MORE obvious. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 04:40, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**That doesn't mean they don't play PlayStation. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:25, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***That doesn't mean that this is a reference. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 13:28, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Sam I Am (Declined)===
Homestar saying "I have long pants, I wear long pants..." is a reference to Dr Seuss's childeren's book "Green Eggs and Ham"
*''' Severe Decline and Baleted-erson''' No it's not. If the phrase was "I have long pants, Long pants I have" where the subject and the object are reversed, than it would be a refrence. But it is not.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 19:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Severe Decline''' 1000% no. Where did you get this idea from? The fact that both have verbs in it? Oh! "Am" and "have" are both verbs with the letter "a!" That HAS to be a reference... Come on, guys... This doesn't even belong on STUFF :-( →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:49, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 30 Mar 2005
**Tis why I said Balete--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 10:54, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''SECONDED!!'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''DECLINE'D!''' Totally unfounded. Go away. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:04, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**And geez, you could have at least spelled "children's" correctly. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:44, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*...learntospell... '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:54, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline, Basically''' Yes, the rhythm is the same, but the sentence structure isn't. -Walking Armless
*'''Uh, no.''' I see no resemblance. How does this have resemblance? Sewiously. [[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 15:28, 9 Apr 2005 (CST)

===Homestar Over Correction Fluid (Moved on Page)===
When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.

*'''Weak Accept, but Move''' Like the above item, this doesn't seem so much as a Goof as a Remark - given that Homestar is acting crazy when this happens, certainly odd things would happen that aren't necessarily Goofs on the toon's creators' part. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 11:21, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Secone."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|The Great Aussie Evil]] 22:37, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second!''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 04:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondhand pants.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 19:07, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' Its a sight gag, there isn't meant to be any kind of logic to it (in real life you wouldn't be able to appear on a computer screen just like that). [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 20:06, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' I agree with Donnny and at is why I '''Accept.''' Why is that a reason not to accept? The standard should be that it be something amusing or interesting which someone might not notice without reading this WIKI. Why else does this WIKI exsist? [[User:Theving|Theving]]
*'''accept''' When Homestar's mad, anything can happen!--[[User:mk5due|mk5dude]] 1 April 2005
*'''Decline''' My guess is that he didn't go inside the Lappy screen, but in front of it.--[[User:Bonk|Bonk]] 17:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)
**Then how did become pixalated? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:53, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Strong Decline.''' Homestar entering the Lappy's screen defies the laws of physics as is. It isn't much of a stretch from there to have him appear overtop of the correction fluid. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]
*'''Decline the Declines (AKA accept)''' This is very interesting, and I didn't even notice it until i read this. I don't understand why it was stuffed or why everyone seems to hate it so much. I think it's GOLD! [[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 16:57, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' AGAIN, being clever is far from a prerequisite for a fun fact. Although honestly I'm not seeing what's so "GOLD" about it... [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 06:07, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

===Bedroom Window (Declined)===
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]], but in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere, even though it should be in the shot. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 13:52, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
*Revise = Very Yes. Run-on sentences hurt my brain. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 08:42, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
**It wasn't a run-on, but I still Decline. --[[User:homestar3.14|homestar3.14]] 11:08, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
**It totally was. It should have been broken into two sentences; somewhere between "Presents" and "but".
**'''Revise, accept''' It is a run-on scentence. Try:
Homestar's bedroom window was right next to his bed in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However, in the Easter Egg, you can't see the window anywhere even though it should be in the shot.
*'''Decline''' He could just be laying at the other end of the bed, thus the room would be flipped. Gah, most of the "goofs" posted aren't even genuine and this is no exception. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' This is not fun! Also, a run-on sentence needs to lack a conjunction or semicolon to be a run-on sentence, ***LACK*** an example would be this one I'm typing now. --[[User:sninky-chan|sninky-chan]] 18:44, 4 Apr 2005 (CET)
**Totally untrue. Run-on sentences can have conjunctions; haven't you ever seen someone overuse the word "and?" Example: I went to the store and I bought some candy and then I went home and then I watched TV. There are conjunctions there, but it's still run-on. [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 14:34, 4 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***The sentance is fine, it just uses commas in the wrong place. Still doesn't make this a good fact. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Accept''' Seems interesting enough... and before the grammar police take over the world, it should be noted that you can't start a sentence with "however". -Dingell
*'''DECLINE, and I have proof.''' [[HR:xmas04.html|Watch the toon.]] When we first see Homestar in bed, we ''can't see the window.'' After he sits up, the camera moves, and ''lo and behold'' there the window is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Now, are we going to argue about Homestar Runner, or are we going to argue about grammar? ...Grammar!
***The original fact is not a run-on sentence. From ''The American Heritage Dictionary:'' A run-on sentence is "a sentence in which two or more independent clauses are not properly joined by a semicolon or conjunction." (This is backed up by other dictionaries.) The original fact has a conjunction (namely, ''but''), which properly joins the clauses. Therefore, although the sentence may be too wordy for some people, grammatically it's a good sentence.
***Technically, beginning a sentence with ''however'' is not wrong either. But it ''is'' poor style. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:32, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)

===Edga Jr. removes text? (Accepted with modifications)===
Strong Bad opens up [[Edgar#Edga Jr.|Edga Jr.]] and when it goes away, all the text written before it is gone.

*'''Weak Decline''' Since Strong Bad actually calls up the text in question bringing back his e-mail program with no problems, I really don't see this as being a Goof (I moved it here from Goofs). --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:43, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.''' Just watched it and the text from the e-mail comes RIGHT back after the splash screen. Upgrading my vote to '''Severe Decline.''' --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 08:46, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Comment.'''The email comes back, but Strong Bad's response disappears. -LuigiHann
*'''Accept.''' I don't think Eggman understands what this fact is saying. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:48, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment.''' And you can tell what I'm thinking from two posts?... Wow, amazing. I understand NOW what it's saying, but I still don't think it's a goof - what's the point of running Edga Jr. on what Strong Bad just typed? In any case, since we don't know exactly what keys Strong Bad pressed to bring the e-mail back up, but it's possible he could have just brought the e-mail back up so that he could do his "X-pensive Light Pen' thingie on it. It's still not deserving of a Goof entry since we don't accurately know what keys were pressed or even what was intended to happen - at the very least, it's a weak Remark, not a Goof. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 21:11, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline.''' The fact is accurate, poorly written, and not notable as a Goof or anything else. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:05, 12 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accepty-Go-Nuts. But Rewrite first.''' I see what you're saying...but it's poorly written. Please rewrite it.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 22:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept, Rewrite''' yep, it's true what the man says.
*'''Acceptomundo''' I think this constitutes a slot in the Fun Fact spot, this is done in other places. [[User: Lappy 486]]
*'''Second.''' -Walking Armless
*Decline That always happens with any program in DOS or on DOS based computers. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*Umm, I dunno how long I've had "rewrite" up there and nothng has happened. I guess I'll do it for you.
<pre>When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr,
all the text he had typed beforehand is gone. Since Edga Jr. is
programmed to remove text,
Edga Jr. may have removed it.</pre>
This could be a comment instead of a goof.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 00:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*I would still decline it, because it always happens that way in DOS no matter what program you load up, the previous text will be gone. So it's actually DOS that removes the text. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]

===No "la dee la dee la"? (Accepted)===
Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*Cept not. It is a privalge to be the first to '''decline''' this. Just as a note, I don't think that this type of fact is meant to be STUFF'd. When something is so blatently wrong or pathetically stupid with a fact, I personally think it should be deleted posthaste, with a note in the talk page. Leave the STUFF for controversial facts (ie. Change of Pace)-- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:59, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*Tony, be nice. I would like to point out that Homestar also made a reference to Bubs' character page is his tirade, so this is also probably a reference. It just wouldn't make much sense if it wasn't. So I '''Accept.''' --[[User:Hamrodrunner|Hamrodrunner]] 02:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**No he didn't. And while I'm sure this is a reference, its fairly obvious to anyone whos bothered to watch the intro.'''Neutral''' [[user:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
* I'm '''Neautral''' on this, because it sounds like it could be a reference, but he did't say in the same way that he does in the intro. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 03:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
* What's so terrible about it? '''Accept''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Evwrybody, la dee decline-o!''' And maybe when Homestar said "Hey the Cheat," that might be a reference to that little yellow thing. And maybe Homsar is a reference to Homestar. Did you ever realize that Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Strong Mad sound almost the same? Maybe the Poopsmith got his name from his job! MAYBE THE BROTHERS CHAPS ARE RELATED! *gasp* Wow, back to therapy. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 04:49, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' It's NOT a reference, because he would have said it like it's said in the intro. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 19:19, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
**So when Strong Bad mentions "Cheatcakes" in [[do over]] it's not a reference to [[stupid stuff]] because he says it differently? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Very Weak <strike>Neutral</strike> Accept.''' It's a reference to "Everybody, everybody". Not quite sure how to classify it though. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:23, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept'''. This certainly is a reference. Nobody ever says "everybody everybody" in normal specch, or even when going on a tirade, without it referring to homestarrunner.com. But, I think this needs to be <s>'''revised'''</s> because the Intro isn't the only thing it could refer to. At least in the old days, "Everybody! Everybody!" was more or less a slogan for the site itself. --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''I think not!''' No. It isn't. Decline. No. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 00:53, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept''' I really don't understand what the problem with this is. "Everybody everybody" is NOT a common phrase for people to use, and it's a slogan of the site. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 01:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''DO OVER!''' You can look at the transcript and see that Homestar says "Everybody! Everybody!" What should be noted as a fun fact is the significance of him saying that, that "Everybody! Everybody!" is HomestarRunner.com's theme song. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 04:50, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**Er... I've used "Do over" as a "Decline" statement before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
***Oh, I intended it as a "Rewrite" in this case. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
*Jay, going back to what you said...I would say Cheatcakes is a reference, because it's an object. That doesn't matter to me. Homestar saying "Everybody, everybody, longest pants?" Not so much. I think Upset_Your_Balance is probably right on the money with what he said, but I still decline the fun fact. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**<strike>'''So totally Second'''</strike> Yes. Yes! You are right right right, so right. You couldn't be more correct. Yes. Perfect. Absolutely right in every way. Yeah, man. Whoo, yeah. See this guy? He's just so right, man, so right. I love this guy. I stroke your head. I kiss yo- No. I don't do that. But yes. You are so, so, so, YES, right. -- [[User:Lappy 486|Lappy 486]] 05:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC) You can't vote on the same fact more than once. I've blocked someone for doing that in the past, so watch it.
**I meant Cheatcakes, BTW (changed it in both of our posts). But I stand by it - he doesn't say it exactly the same way, but the VERY NATURE of his tirade makes him not say it exactly the same way. He says the same thing, in a context where it otherwise makes no sense, as the theme song. I have a Homestar Runner [[Everybody Everybody Poster|poster]] which reads "everybody! everybody!" at the top. It's not being spoken aloud AT ALL, but I think everyone can agree that it's referring to the H*R theme song on the poster. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:17, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
**'''Accept.''' No need to even spend money on a poster to see this. Go to "www.homestarrunner.com". What does it say at the very top? "everybody! everybody!"--[[User:rsl12|rsl12]] 18:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' It's true, but given that it's in the intro, I would think it's obvious. --[[User:AnarchyBalsac|AnarchyBalsac]]
*'''Accept.''' It seems rather obvious to me. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]
*'''YOU GOT A DECLINE!''' Too obvious, Clanky! Too OBVIOUS!! -Kinsey
**How is this too obvious? The majority of people (NOT Wiki-people) visiting the site probably don't even watch the intro once, since it's skippable. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
**And given that even some Wiki-people don't think it's connected should make it obvious that it's not all that obvious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:37, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Accept.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:36, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declined, Burninated and ''Baleeted!''''' [[User: James Craven|James Craven]] 1:12 AM EDT June 3 2005.
*'''Accept.''' Since when is "Everybody, everybody!" a common phrase? And nobody should say it's too obvious, because I hadn't seen the intro page in a year or so, and the reference really didn't sink in until the second (or so) time I watched it. --[[User:SBEmail22|SBEmail22]] 11:48, 10 June 2005 (EST)

== Those white things sticking out of Homestar's daisy dukes. ==

What are they?

:The pockets. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:22, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, pretty obviouse there pant pockets...

== After further searching ==

In order to add credibility to my claim that it is not a sharpie and actually a paint pen, read the commentary by TBC. In it, they actually pull out what is said to be the pen that Strong Bad used, a medium line paint pen. Check it out. {{unsigned|Mortacai|18:08, 4 October 2005}}
:Yeah, it probably is. Check the commentary on this email, "paint pen" is mentioned numerous times. Thusly, it makes that "Fun Fact" that was taken off irrelevent, because it was about some site that made stuff from a sharpie.{{User:Camalex/sig}} 18:13, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== screen "goof"? ==

The first goof says "Although Strong Bad puts pressure onto the Lappy's screen when trying to rub off the marker and when applying the white out, no ripples pop up on the screen." Is this really a "goof"? Considering the unrealistic specs on this comp, it could be some made-up old model that uses a screen not dependant on liquid crystal display. Also, some LCD screens don't ripple when you apply certain amounts of pressure, due to a thin piece of hard plastic. - [[User:Uglinessman|Uglinessman]] 19:02, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
: But if you click on the screen, ripples come up, implying that that's what would happen if you touched it. --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 14:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

== Adam West ==

I know it's a looooooooonnnnnngggg time after this, but I think that Strong Bad's quote of Adam West would have said something about wearing skin-tight pants, I mean just stretchy tights, because it's midnite! Superheros don't really wear pants. THEY WEAR STRETCHY TIGHTS!!! That what I thinx. With a sphinx. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 12:02, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

== Everybody Everybody ==

Yes, I know, it's supposed to be a reference to the Intro. However, does anybody else notice it doesn't sound ''anything'' like the Intro? Personally, I think it sounds a lot like a System of a Down song whose title I probably shouldn't mention. Let's say "Violent Blank-ography". -- [[User:Dragoon5464|Dragoon5464]] 11:48, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Fonts

ComputerBox — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:59:49 GMT

ComputerBox: /* C */ Actually, Chicago was the usual font for Systems 7 and before. OS 8 and 9 usually used Charcoal.

[[The Brothers Chaps]] have used many different '''[[Wikipedia:Typeface|fonts]]''' on the Homestar Runner website.

Note: Oftentimes, different font corporations, or foundries, will publish virtually identical fonts under different names. For instance, Linotype's [http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/linotype/eurostile/ Eurostile] is Bitstream's [http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/bitstream/square-721/ Square 721]. In cases where the actual font used cannot be distinguished between two identical variants, the name with the older lineage should be used.
==Fonts==
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===#===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Font !! Used for !! Example
|- id="20th_Century_Ultra_Bold_Italic"
| '''20th Century Ultra Bold Italic''' || Used in [[CGNU]] for the [[Crazy Go Nuts University]] logo. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:CGNU_Close-up_for_Font.png|CGNU! Me?]]
|}

===A===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="Aarco-"
| '''Aarco-''' || Used in [[haircut]] in the subtitle ''"Jagged Metal"''. Also used in [[monster truck]] for the ''"SUNDAY SUNDAY SOMEDAY"'', ''"FOR A FREE"'', etc. text and in [[Awexome Cross 98]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Aarcover.PNG|I DON'T WANNA EAT A GUITAR!]]
|- id="ActionIs"
| '''ActionIs''' || Used in [[homestar hair]] and [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:actionis.png|It's fifty-five days after Halloween...|280px]]
|- id="AE Systematic"
| '''AE Systematic''' || Used in [[Thy Dungeonman 3]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:AE Systematic.png|Behold thy new font!]]
|- id="AhnbergHand"
| '''Ahnberg Hand''' || [[Strong Bad]]'s handwriting as used for the [[Teen Girl Squad]] issues or the [[Floppy Disk Container|floppy disk labels]]. See also [[Lowercase i's]]. (Note: the Chaps have modified the font so a few European characters appear in American format. They have also added apostrophes, which are not in the font normally.) || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Ahnberghand.png|Sooo good!]]
|- id="Alba"
| '''Alba''' || On the spine of a book in [[That a Ghost]]. Also found in the subtitle ''"[[Ready For Primetime|Ready for Primetime]]"'' in [[haircut]], [[KaraokeFun]], [[best thing]], [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]], and in an Easter egg for downloading a tune from [[dangeresque 3]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:AGhostInThisBook.png|I buried myself alive on Tuesday.]]
|- id="Alba_Super"
| '''Alba Super''' || As seen on the [[Suge Brown|brown sugar box]] in [[best thing]] as well as the [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]], on The Cheat's [[SeeDees|CD player]], on the [[Strong Bad's Rhino Feeder|Rhino Feeder]] box in [[video games]], on the "[[All Is On]]" CD case, for the majority of the SBLOUNSKCHED! logo, and in [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]. Obviously from the same family as Alba, but a completely different font. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:albasuper.png|As lost as four-armed Grimace.]]
|- id="Andy_Bold"
| '''Andy Bold''' || Used for the text on the [[FAQ]] page. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:AndyBold.png|Andy Bold]]
|- id="Anzeigen_Grotesk_EF"
| '''Anzeigen Grotesk EF''' || The font for the Happy Thanksgiving banner on [[Bubs]]' float in [[Fall Float Parade]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Anzeigen Grotesk EF.png|Happy Thanksgiving!!]]
|- id="Arial"
| '''[[Wikipedia:Arial|Arial]]''' || The font used on the [[HR:main_nav.swf|NavBar]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Arial.png|small|Navigation, anyone?]]
|- id="Arial_Black"
| '''Arial Black''' || Used for the subtitles to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] on the [[Lava Lamp Toons Menu]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Arialblackfont.PNG|Their old no goodness.]]
|- id="Arial_Narrow_MT"
| '''Arial Narrow MT''' || Used for the [[Games]] button on [[Main Page 22]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Arial Narrow MT.png|Games]]
|}

===B===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="Bauhaus_93"
| '''Bauhaus 93''' || Various logos and [[Main Pages]] text, the [[Index Page]], the [[Sega Tapes]] in [[anything]], and the font on [[Homsar]]'s shirt. Used on every [[:Category:DVDs|DVD]] released thus far.|| style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Bauhaus 93.png|Homsar's shirt]]
|- id="Bernard_Condensed"
| '''Bernard Condensed''' || Used to write names on office doors: Dangeresque's in [[dangeresque 3]] and Strong Bad's in [[The Interview]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:BernardCondensed.png|Total Journalist]]
|- id="Bickley_Script"
| '''Bickley Script''' || Appeared on the The Great Mound postcard in [[vacation]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:BickleyScript.png|That mound is not all that great.]]
|- id="Blackadder_ITC"
| '''Blackadder ITC''' || Used extensively in [[A Folky Tale]] and [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]. Also makes an appearance in [[flashback]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:blackadder.PNG|Gonna have a good time tonight...]]
|- id="Bookman_Old_Style"
| '''[[wikipedia:Bookman (typeface)|Bookman Old Style]]''' || The font used as the title of the Battle Axe Lessons flyer in [[other days]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:bookman old style.png|Bad at battle axeing?]]
|- id="Broadway"
| '''Broadway''' || Used on [[The Cheat|The Cheat's]] Strong Bad Rewards Score Card in [[privileges]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Broadway.png|Ca-chunk-a]]
|- id="Brush_Script_MT"
| '''[[wikipedia:Brush Script|Brush Script MT]]''' || Used throughout the site - for example, on Homestar's shirt in [[Main Page 4]], in [[bottom 10]], and in [[Senorial Day]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:BrushScript.png|Senorial!]]
|}

===C===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="Calisto_MT_Bold"
| '''Calisto MT Bold''' || Used for the [[Superfied Credit Union]] logo on the credit card on the [[Downloads]] page. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:CalistoMTBold.png|Bank of Free Country USA]]
|- id="Candice"
| '''Candice''' || The font used for [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]] and higher. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:marz-font.png|Hi, this is Marzipan|280px]]
|- id="Chicago"
| '''Chicago''' || The typical menu font for the Classic [[Wikipedia:Mac OS|Mac OS]] (versions 7 and before), seen on The Cheat's computer, [[Tangerine Dreams]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[image:chicago sample.png|Tangerine Dreams' task bar]]
|- id="Chick"
| '''Chick''' || The font used on the cover of [[Scarfgirl]] magazine, seen in [[secret identity]]. Also used for the Sbemail Deodorant in [[disconnected]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Chick.PNG|All the hot boys]]
|- id="Chiller"
| '''Chiller''' || The font used in [[Fan Costume Commentary]] and [[More Fan Costumes]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[image:chiller.PNG|Ooh, pretzels!]]
|- id="Comic_Sans_MS"
| '''Comic Sans MS''' || A font used by one of Strong Bad's fake hot girlfriends in [[sugarbob]] and for most of the text on Dolph Hauldhagen's flyer in [[other days]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[image:ComicSansMS.png|Some weird anime cat emoticon]]
|- id="ComixHeavy"
| '''ComixHeavy''' || The font used on the [[Main Pages]] for the "Go on and see what's new!" message, as well as the "Last updated on" message. Also used in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]] from versions 1 through 8, and for the [[Characters]] button on [[Main Page 22]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Comix-Heavy_Sample.png|What's new?|280px]]
|- id="Commodore_64"
| '''Commodore 64''' || The [[Compy 386]] font. Also used for [[Peasant's Quest]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Commodore 64.png|A spectacle of graphics and sound.|280px]]
|- id="Cooper_Black"
| '''[[wikipedia:Cooper Black|Cooper Black]]''' || The title font of the "[[Dreamaway Johnny]]" flyers in [[part-time job]]. Also used in [[First Time Here?]], for the curved wording, and in the [[Index Page]], for the links. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:cooperblack.png|When all my dreams come true...|280px]]
|- id="Copperplate_Gothic_Bold"
| '''Copperplate Gothic Bold''' || The header font of the "Dreamaway Johnny" flyers in [[part-time job]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:copperplategothicbold.png|Butt's 12 by pies?|280px]]
|- id="Courier_New"
| '''[[wikipedia:Courier New|Courier New]]''' || The font in the email client on [[Tangerine Dreams|The Cheat's computer]], used in [[weird dream]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:courier new sample.png|That ''was'' a weird dream!]]
|- id="Creepy"
| '''Creepy''' || The font used as the photo caption on the Battle Axe Lessons flyer in [[other days]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:creepy.png|Dolph Hauldhagen!!!]]
|}

===D===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="Diploma"
|'''Diploma''' || The font used on the card [[Strong Sad]] made for Anthony in [[depressio]]. Also used in [[rampage]] on the poetry slam sign and the Font used by Strong Sad in the autogragh section of the [[Yearbook Character Page]]. Strong Bad tricks out his fist in this font in [[car]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Diploma.png|Strong Sad font|280px]]
|}
===E===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="Engravers"
| '''Engravers''' || Used on Strong Bad's tombstone in [[replacement]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Engravers.png|Please do not dig up grave.]]
|- id="Eras_Demi"
| '''Eras Demi''' || The font used for the [[Podstar Runner]] menu text. An iPod's actual font is [[Wikipedia:Podium Sans|Podium Sans]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Podstar.PNG|Get me out of this tiny box!|180px|]]
|- id="EraserDust"
| '''EraserDust''' || The font in [[anything]] Homestar used to write "Homestar Runner" in chalk. Also used on the chalkboard in [[sibbie]] and [[technology]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:ChalkDust_Font.PNG|180px|His name is "Homestar Runner."]]
|- id="Eurostile"
| '''Eurostile''' || Used for the "Compy" text on the Compy 386, as well as for the opening titles on [[Bug In Mouth Disease]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Eurostile.png|Bug In Mouth Disease]]
|}

===F===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="Flyer_Black_Condensed"
| '''Flyer Black Condensed''' || Used for the subtitles in the opening to [[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]] || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:FlyerBlackCondensed.png|All 'cause we saaaaayyyyyyy...]]
|- id="Folk_Art_Stitch"
| '''Folk Art Stitch''' || Used for the shirt stitching in [[other days]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:folk art stitch.png|"Did you play online gaming last night?"]]
|- id="Forte"
| '''Forte''' || Used extensively throughout the site, including in the [[First Time Here?]] welcome speech. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Forte.png|"It's dot com!"]]
|- id="French_Script_MT"
| '''French Script MT''' || From [[Everybody to the Limit]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:frenchscriptmt.png|I asked my friend Joe]]
|- id="Freshbot"
| '''Freshbot''' || As seen in [[Club Technochocolate]]. Also used in the game catalog for [[Hallrunner]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:freshbot.PNG|All is on!]]
|- id="Futura"
| '''Futura''' || Used on the art test in [[CGNU]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Futura.png|Draw Me!]]
|}
===G===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="Gigi"
| '''Gigi''' || Used on the "barbzerdry" flyer in [[haircut]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:GigiFont.PNG|No cuts, butts, or coconuts.]]
|- id="Gill_Sans_Bold"
| '''Gill Sans Bold''' || Used on the [[Clapperboard|clapperboards]] in [[First Time Here?]] and [[Fluffy Puff Commercial]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:GillSans.png|Direction]]
|- id="Glitch0"
| '''Glitch0''' || The [[Lappy 486]] font. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Glitch0.png|Doong diing!]]
|- id="Glitch1"
| '''Glitch1''' || An alternate version of Glitch0, used only in [[rock opera]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Glitch1.png|Encore! Encore!]]
|}
===H===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="Harlow_Solid_Italic"
| '''Harlow Solid Italic''' || From [[best thing]], used on the "[[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"|Limozeen: 'but they're in space!']]" logo. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:harlow.png|I'm afraid I've got some bad news, boys...]]
|- id="Harting"
| '''Harting''' || Used for the papers in [[death metal]], [[little questions]], and [[english paper]], as well as the title of "Strong Bad-Type Intervie Progrum" in [[pizzaz]]. Also makes a brief appearance in [[Everybody to the Limit]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:harting.png|I asked my friend Jake]]
|- id="House_Slant"
| '''House Slant''' || The [[Old-Timey]], '30s font. Also used for Strong Bad's [[bottom 10|Bottom 10]] and [[pizzaz]] easter egg.|| style="text-align:center" | [[Image:houseslantfont.PNG|A "cartoon" for "kids."|280px]]
|}

===I===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="Impact"
| '''[[wikipedia:Impact (font)|Impact]]''' || The font for the sign of [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:impact.png|We're always awesome.|280px]]
|- id="ITC_Bauhaus_Medium"
| '''ITC Bauhaus Medium''' || The font for the subtitles in the [[Isle of Pom]] from the [[Museum]], in [[homestar hair]], and for the vast majority of navigation buttons on the [[Main Pages]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:ITCBauhaus.png|Pom Pom is the best Pom]]
|}
===J===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="Jokerman"
| '''Jokerman''' || Used to name a dangerous dessert in [[bottom 10]]. Also one of the fonts used in [[sugarbob]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:jokerman.PNG|Na na la la la...|280px]]
|- id="Joystix"
| '''Joystix''' || A [[Nintendo|Nintendo Entertainment System]] font used in various games on the website, along with the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Joystix.png|Games, games, and more games]]
|}

===K===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="KidTypePaint"
| '''KidTypePaint''' || Used in the opening credits in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], for the ''revengenceful'' font from [[2 years]], and for the writing on [[Main Page 23]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:kidtypepaint.PNG|MU-HA-HA-HA|280px]]
|}
===L===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="LCDD"
| '''LCDD''' || Used often whenever a digital readout is needed, for example on Marzipan's [[PhoneTime XL8|answering machine]], the [[Clock Radio|clock radio]], or [[Random Toon]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:LCDD.png|Marzi's machine... Homestar's clock... get them today!]]
|- id="Linoscript"
| '''Linoscript''' || Used for the slogan for [[The Cheatcakes]] in [[stupid stuff]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:LinoscriptSample.png|Just ask The Cheat!]]
|- id="Logger Regular"
| '''Logger Regular''' || Used for the ranch sign in the e-mail [[pizzaz]] easter egg. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Buffalo-style.png|Here comes the Stong Bad!]]
|- id="London_Text"
| '''London Text''' || Found on the postcard for historic Over There in [[vacation]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:LondonText.png|Over There]]
|- id="Lucida_Calligraphy"
| '''Lucida Calligraphy''' || Used for Strong Sad's [[Strong Libs]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:LucidaCalligraphy.png|Each Day We Die A Little More.]]
|- id="Lucida_Handwriting"
| '''Lucida Handwriting''' || The font for the phrase [[Wear a Bikini!|"Wear a bikini"]] in [[Main Page 15]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:LucidaHandwriting.png|Bikinitime!]]
|}

===M===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="Maiandra_Demi_Bold"
| '''Maiandra Demi Bold''' || Used on the end screen of [[Bug In Mouth Disease]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Maiandra.png|of the world as we know it]]
|- id="Mekanik"
| '''Mekanik''' || Used in the [[Senor Mortgage|commercial]] for [[Senor Cardgage Mort-gage]] for the phone number, phrase "Senor Mortgage", and the "Home Lawn", etc., pullouts. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:555-55-55855-55-5.png|SENOR-MORT-GAGE-TODAY]]
|- id="Metal_Lord"
| '''Metal Lord''' || The font for Bubs' flyers in [[part-time job]], Dolph Hauldhagen's flyers in [[other days]], and in the header text for [[Revenge of the King]]. Also used to title the [[Secret Collect]] box in [[video games]] and various parts of [[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-Cards]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:metallord.png|Sorry, Tragic Clown Dog.]]
|}
===N===
===O===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="OCR_B"
| '''OCR B''' || Used for the account number and name on the credit card from the [[Downloads]] page. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:OCRB.png|Pin:5675]]
|- id="Odessa"
| '''Odessa''' || The font for [[The Show]] and the current characters page. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:TheShowLogo.png|The Show!]]
|- id="Old_English_Text_MT"
| '''Old English Text MT''' || The font used on Strong Sad's box of memories in [[The Secrets That I Keep]]. Also in [[A Holiday Greeting]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Old English Text MT.PNG|fond reminiscences|280px]]
|- id="Old Towne No 536 EF Regular"
| '''Old Towne No 536 EF Regular''' || The font for the Strong Bad -show in the e-mail [[pizzaz]] easter egg. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Old Towne.png|Here comes the Strong Bad!]].
|}

===P===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="Papyrus"
| '''Papyrus''' || Used in [[myths & legends]] for the "Walking with Trogdor" logo. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:WalkingwithTrogdor.PNG|Take the virtual tour.|280px]]
|- id="Parade_Script"
| '''Parade Script''' || Found on the Pantsburg postcard in [[vacation]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:ParadeScript.png|Pants!]]
|- id="Peanuts"
| '''Peanuts''' || A font made in the image of [[wikipedia:Charles_Schulz|Charles Schulz's]] lettering, it was used in the drawing of [[Coach Zed]] in [[do over]]. The image seen here is taken from [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:peanuts.png|I heart Flint]]
|- id="Phyllis"
| '''Phyllis''' || Used in an Easter egg in [[the facts]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Phyllis.png|Homestar Runner will be right right back]]
|- id="Pixie"
| '''Pixie''' || The other [[Old-Timey]], '30s font. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:cankickinfont.png|Get kicking.|280px]]
|- id="Playbill"
| '''Playbill''' || The ''other'' other old-timey font, used for old-timey things such as Uncle Strong Bad's Flavor Taste Style Chewing Powders from [[2 emails]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Playbill_Font.png|Flavor Taste Style]]
|- id="Poor_Richard"
| '''Poor Richard''' || The cover font for [[Hundredaire Socialite]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:poorrichard.png|The brains behind Videlectrix|280px]]
|- id="Porky.27s"
| '''Porky's''' || Used in the "technical difficulties" screen in Strong Bad's email [[pizzaz]] and [[Fall Float Parade]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Sbemail_pizzaz_porkysfont.png|Hang in there!]]
|- id="Pornhut"
| '''Pornhut''' || A font used in the [[Hip Hop Dance]] video at the end of the [[New Boots]] short. Also seen on an Easter egg in [[rampage]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:pornhut.png|Coach Z, how come you don't dance no more?]]
|- id="Potrzebie"
|'''Potrzebie''' || The font used in the new stuff bubble on the [[Main Pages]], though the version of the font that's available for download doesn't have many punctuation marks, like the apostrophe. Also used for the [[Store]] button on [[Main Page 22]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:newsbemail.png|Everyone's favorite sight!]]
|- id="PT_Karolla_Narrow_Black"
|'''PT Karolla Narrow Black''' || The font for the sign on the door of Marshmallow's Last Stand. (image mirrored) ||style="text-align:center" | [[Image:PTKarolla.png|Ohh.. I think I ate'a too many marshmallows...]]
|}
===Q===
===R===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="Rage_Italic_LET"
| '''Rage Italic LET''' || The logo font of Stookley's, the makers of [[Hundredaire Socialite]]. Also used for [[take-a-break.exe]] and for the title "A Month" in [[other days]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:rageitaliclet.png|H.S. out on the scene.]]
|- id="Ravie"
| '''Ravie''' || Used to title [[A Jumping Jack Contest]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:JumpingJackTitle.PNG|200px|A Jumping Jack Contest]]
|}
===S===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="Screwtop_Light"
| '''Screwtop Light''' || The font for the second counter on [[Strong Bad]]'s float in [[Fall Float Parade]], the subtitle of "Strong Bad-Type Interview Progrum" in [[pizzaz]], and on various scoreboards. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Screwtop Light.png|Nunchucking Snowmen]]
|- id="Script_Bold_MT"
| '''Script Bold MT''' || The text on the leaf in the beginning of [[Fall Float Parade]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Script Bold MT.png|The FTst annual Fall Float Parade.]]
|- id="Sevenet_7"
| '''Sevenet 7''' || The font on the [[Pom Pilot]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:sevenet7.png|internet, solitaire, and the ladies]]
|- id="Shelley_Script_Allegro"
| '''Shelley Script Allegro''' || Used for the body of Strong Sad's letter in [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:StrongSadNoteExcerpt.png|Yeah he does.]]
|- id="Showcard_Gothic"
| '''Showcard Gothic''' || The font used for The Cheat's "TITO" hat in [[part-time job]]. Also used on the "PAY PLUS!" text in [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:showcardgothic.png|An undersea epic?]]
|- id="SignPainter_HouseSlant_Font"
| '''SignPainter HouseSlant Font''' || "Strong Bad's" in "Strong Bad's Message Bored" (Message and Bored are not fonts). Also seen on the back of the Homsar T-Shirt. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:SignPainter HouseSlant Font.PNG|Ugh, I'm So '''Bored'''!]]
|- id="Snap_ITC"
| '''Snap ITC''' || The font used in the "How Come?" text in [[space program]] and on the Dry T-Shirt Contest flyer in [[bottom 10]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Snap.png|280px|How Come?]]
|- id="Space_Toaster"
| '''Space Toaster''' || The font used on the "Cat Mess" bag in the email, [[lady fan]]. Also used on the subtitle ''"A Dog and Also a Cat Shaped Eyebrows"'' in [[haircut]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Space_toaster.gif|Arts 'n' crafts with Marzipan]]
|- id="Stencil_BT"
| '''Stencil BT''' || The font used on the [[Heavy Lourde]]. Also used on various crates, boxes, [[Cardboard Marzipan]], and [[Jail]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Stencil_BT_Sample.png|Heavy falling weight type thing, yo.]]
|- id="Sydnie"
| '''Sydnie''' || Used for [[Thy Dungeonman]] and [[Thy Dungeonman II]]. Also makes a brief appearance in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Sydnie.PNG|You can't get ye flask!]]
|}

===T===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="Team_MT"
| '''Team MT''' || The font used for the motto "Buy all our playsets and toys!!" in [[Cheat Commandos (toon)|Cheat Commandos]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Team_MT_Sample.png|Weekdays at 4:30|230px]]
|- id="ThereSignHead3"
| '''ThereSignHead3''' || The font used for the buttons on Mrs. Bennedetto in [[part-time job]]. Also used for the subtitles in Homsar's television show, [[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]], that appears during the Strong Bad Email [[for kids]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:theresignhead3.png|Yeah, buddy. I have muscles.]]
|- id="Tiranti_Solid"
| '''Tiranti Solid''' || Used for introductory and ancillary text in [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:MrShmallowFontSample.png|Look lively!]]
|- id="Times_New_Roman"
| '''[[Wikipedia:Times New Roman|Times New Roman]]''' || Used for the text of the "[[Dreamaway Johnny]]" flyers in [[part-time job]] and as one of the fonts used by Strong Bad's "girlfriends" in [[sugarbob]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:timesnewroman.png|Act Three|280px]]
|- id="Traffic_Type_Sweden_D"
| '''Traffic Type Sweden D''' || Used for the small header tabs at the top of the [[TV Time Toons Menu]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Traffic Type Sweden D.png|Big toons.]]
|- id="Trebuchet_MS"
| '''[[Wikipedia:Trebuchet MS|Trebuchet MS]]''' || Used for the text throughout [[The King of Town DVD Old Version]] and as the day-of-the-week titles in Strong Bad's calendar in [[other days]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:EndFromOriginalKOT.png|Doo-hoo-hoo!]]
|}

===U===
===V===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="VOY_DOT_LCD"
| '''VOY DOT LCD''' || The font used on [[The Paper]] and in [[Everybody to the Limit]]. Also used in [[pizzaz]] and [[Dancin' Bubs]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:VOY DOT LCD.png|Preeeeow!|280px]]
|}

===W===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- id="Webdings"
| '''Webdings''' || The font in Marzipan's instant message in [[marzipan]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:don't decode this.png|I hope you didn't decode this.|280px]]
|- id="Westminster"
| '''[[Wikipedia:Westminster (typeface)|Westminster]]''' || Used extensively throughout the site, but best known for being the [[Tandy 400]] font, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]] version numbers, [[caffeine]], and in [[technology]]. || style="text-align:center" | [[Image:Westminster.png|Ah, the old Tandy.|280px]]
|}
===X===
===Y===
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[[Category:Lists]]

Pants

ComputerBox — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:26:58 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Other Pants */ This deletion brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department.

{{about-nothe|pants in general}} {{for|[[Running Gags|running gag]] about whether Homestar Runner wears pants|Homestar's Pants}}
[[Image:pantsburg.PNG|thumb|Fabulous Downtown Pantsburg]]
'''Pants''' are a frequently-referenced clothing item in the [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner universe]]. They are often referenced specifically and in humorous ways.

==Coach Z's References to Pants==
[[Coach Z]] makes frequent jokes and references to pants, whether his own or someone else's. 

*'''[[A Folky Tale]]''' — Coach Z tells [[Strong Sad]] to "cram a little oom-pah down your pants" in an effort to get him to climb a rope.
*Email '''[[super powers]]''' — Coach Z places the blame squarely on tight pants.
*Email '''[[lunch special]]''' — Coach Z orders a basket of double hot wings "pants down".
*Email '''[[secret recipes]]''' — After discovering he'd just eaten a bunch of [[The Cheat]] fur, Coach Z says he's about to "puke [his] pants".
*Email '''[[alternate universe]]''' (Easter egg) — Coach Z, while holding a pear covered in [[Googly-eyed Objects|googly eyes]] and with coffee continually streaming down his [[Lack of Visible Arms#Coach Z's Face|mouthless face]], tells Homestar he is "not at liberty to discuss what [he] just did in [his] pants."

==Other Pants==
Random references to pants appear from time to time in various toons, emails and games.

*'''[[Fortune Cookies]]''' — One of the fortunes reads "Clumsiness will bring about a change of pants."
*'''[[That A Ghost]]''' — [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] claims he will be "marching around in [[Gold|gold]] pants in no time!" Later, as a skeleton, he complains that he will "never find gold pants that fit this tiny waist!"
*'''[[Hallrunner]]''' — One of the objects you encounter is a rabid dog that "bites the butt off your pants. Like in cartoons."
*'''[[Peasant's Quest]]''' — The narrator of the [[Peasant's Quest Preview]] and [[Peasant's Quest Trailer|movie trailer]], as well as other characters, make frequent references to [[Rather Dashing]]'s short pants.
**Another reference to these short pants appears at the beginning of the email [[for kids]].
*Email '''[[stand-up]]''' — Strong Sad shows us a video in which [[Lil' Strong Bad|Lil' Strong Bad's]] pants fall down while he's on stage.
*Email '''[[vacation]]''' — One of the places Strong Bad visits is "[[Strong Bad's Vacation Spots|Fabulous Downtown Pantsburg]]".
*Email '''[[funny]]''' — In an effort to be funny, Strong Bad says he has "squeaky pants".
*Email '''[[haircut]]''' — Strong Bad calls one of his designs for [[Strong Mad]]'s eyebrows "Hammer Pants".
*Email '''[[local news]]''' — Summarizing the weather report, Strong Bad says "Bundle up, but keep your swimsuit on outside your pants."
*Email '''[[bottom 10]]''' — Homestar sings "Buttdance again! Like the rhythm's down your pants now!", causing Strong Bad to vomit on his keyboard.
*Email '''[[portrait]]''' — A portion of a [[News Articles|newspaper article]] near one of Strong Bad's portraits reads "Wipe hands on pants, yo".
*Email '''[[candy product]]''' — Strong Bad's [[SBLOUNSKCHED!]] bar resembles his own pants.
*Email '''[[senior prom]]''' — Strong Bad crashes the prom and threatens to "poof away" everyone's pants in a massive pantsing, but then realizes he is the only one there who is wearing pants. His pants poof away, leaving him standing in a pair of boxer shorts. (Homestar, who claims to wear [[long pants]], is not affected, but later claims he was.)

==See also==
*[[Homestar's Pants]]

[[Category:Clothing running gags]]

Talk:theme song

ComputerBox — Sun, 27 Aug 2006 03:39:22 GMT

ComputerBox: /* The lighter side of fun facts */

==Homestar's teeth==
HOMESTAR HAS TEETH!!!!! WHAT IS THE WERLD COMING TOOO???????!!!!--{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
:I thought it was cute. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 11:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
::Well, that's just beacause you think eyerything's cute hence your name. I however think it's very creepy
<s>beacause I think everything's creepy, hence my name</s>. {{User:Stongbah/sig}} 17:41, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Homestar has teeth, and that's weird...but am I the only one that noticed that Strong Mad's and Homestar Runners teeth are drawn in ALMOST the same way? (Strong Mad's teeth are somewhat bigger.}

It freaked me out too when I saw his teeth it was funny when he ate a lightbulb sandwich though - [[User:Smallowman|Smallowman]] 18:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

==Whyyyy??==
It seems like every new e-mail nowadays has a little part of an e-mail that I sent- but mine never really gets answered! Like, a while ago, I sent Strong Bad an email about getting a talkshow- now he has one? Ahhh!!! {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 11:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
: Well, I did ask him about a theme song once... however, it was a ''personal'' theme song, and before [[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]] came out (which sorta answered the question.) And I asked him a question relating to [[alternate universe]]s, but again, it wasn't really related to the 'toon in question when I asked it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 12:31, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
::Strong Bad gets 3000 emails a day, according to the Wall Street Journal. The chances are pretty high that they get questions about theme songs every other day.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:35, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
:::wall street journal??!!??, who cares about what some funny guy with the last name street thinks, and why are you reading his journal anywho?{{User:Csours/sig}} 13:56, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yes, I know. It's just aggrivating. And, Csours- ''I'' care about it, because I just happen to like the Wall Street Journal. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 14:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Wally street is perhaps the coolest guy i ever met. and its his fault for publishing his journal in the first place!-- [[User:Jhonka|Jhonka]]

==Strong Bad e-mail will be right back...==
The person who said Strong Bad e-mail will be right back after these messages was clearly not Mike or Matt or Missy. Could it have been Jackie? {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 11:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

:Jackie whom? [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 11:54, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

::[[Jackie Chapman]], of course (there is a search bar for one to utilize) <3 . —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:47, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

:It sounds like the same voice as Nibbles, at any rate. Probably Matt or Mike sped up digitally. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 12:58, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

After a brief listen to the seniorprom outtake, I think that it was Missy, without being 100% sure.[[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 12:15, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

:Sounded like Missy/Marzy to me. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 15:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, that's what I thought, but isn't Marzi's voice a bit more 'squeaky'? If you know what I mean... [[User:InvaderJem]]

::: Homestar and Strong Bad are done by the same voice actor, but sound almost nothing alike. I don't think it was meant to be Marzipan, specifically, but probably Missy. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:50, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

If you pitch-shift it down, it sounds similar to Mike... not exactly the same, but similar... the accent's a bit different though. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:55, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

== Easter Egg ==

They only put in one easter egg. I'm letting them get away with this for one reason: There is NOTHING more fun than making The Cheat's tooth do the Shaheeeeeen effect.

:Shaheen! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:45, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

== 14 degrees below zero. ==
(degrees removed because they's there now)
:also, the transcript says that the first guest is hilarity, i think he said celerity. because celerity would be funnier.
::(rio grande comment also removed for the same reason)
{{User:Csours/sig}} 14:06, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

==Location, Location, Location==

When Strong Bad says "south of the border flavor", wouldn't this mean the Free Country USA is above Canada? [[User:Nintendogs123|Nintendogs123]]
:No, it means Strong Bad doesn't know his geography very well. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:06, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
::read the last thing i wrote, right above this.{{User:Csours/sig}} 15:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey Dog thing- It's 'cause of how he says Ontario. Wit a Spainish accent. So there you go. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 19:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Plus, if he was above Canada, he would be practically on the North pole, rending shortlessness, pool time, and Summer impossible.--{{User:The4sword/sig}} 01:37, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:And he wouldn't be in Free Country "USA". -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]]

Well, darn. [[User:Nintendogs123|Nintendogs123]]

== Well, There Go My Hopes... ==

I sent in an email talking about theme songs to Strong Bad, and when it said "theme song" on the main page, my heart fricken skipped a beat. But alas, it wasn't mine. Dang you and your shiny last name Shaween! - {{User:Homsar7/sig}}

== Inside References and the Trivia section ==

A great deal of the Inside References are referring to the credits. I put up a couple internal links in the credits, but should I move more of them? Or take them out and let Inside References continue to be huge?
:Could Tim Timmers be a reference to Tip Tappers?
::What do you mean by reference? [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]]

==That hit the nail on the head==

I really don't like the fact that many shows go to commercials right after the intro, then have this thing that tells you they'll be right back. You could've told us that ''before'' you went to commercials. Also, I don't like the distorted end credis and muted end song just to advertize what's next. Can't they wait until after the credits?

The one thing they didn't do was those annoying popup ads some TV shows seem to have nowadays. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

:They did that with ''Walking with Trogdor'' in [[myths & legends]].{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 17:08, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

==Senor Cardgage wearing a hat==

This is the first time we see [[Senor Cardgage]] wearing a hat. He looks like a rascal wearing a backwards cap and glasses; course, he's always wearing glasses. —[[User:Brian Barbera|Brian Barbera]] 20:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== First Homestar teeth sighting ==

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isnt this the first time we see his teeth? We put marzipan's first teeth-sighting in whatever article that was, so i think we should do it for homestar too. --[[User:TrogdorTSL|Tyler]] 20:55, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
: Uh, check the Trivia section. It's been up there for a while... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:01, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Homestars teeth look freaky to me. I hope we never see them again. [[User:Strongbad111|Strongbad111]]

== NOLA connection ==

Probably unnotable for the main page, but it's interesting that both the Nevilles and the Marsalises are native to New Orleans. Thought I'd just mention it here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:18, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

:While we're at it: This is a reference to the Neville brothers how? Just because they're musicians and their name is "Neville"? I don't get it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:35, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

::They're quite famous here in the U.S. (especially Aaron), and their style is the same kind of pop ballad as the theme song. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:03, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

:::OK, convinced :-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:07, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

::::I might add that I have had the opportunity to play with members of each family (Charles and Delfeayo respectively) but that's ''certainly'' not notable on the main page! Still, it's [[kind of cool]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:17, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::sounds cool to me. you from norlans?{{User:Csours/sig}} 14:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

== Tiny toon adventures ==

I am 100% sertaint that the anounser describing the cheat comandos is the same line from the themes song from Tiny Toon adventures. Im gonna add this once the editin gdies down.
[[User:Cessna Man!|Cessna Man!]] 22:03, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
:It's already mentioned in Real World References. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 22:06, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yah, I saw that right after I posted this. My bad. [[User:Cessna Man!|Cessna Man!]] 22:10, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Its not paraphrased, its a direct quote, gonna change it in a second {{unsigned|DumbMuscle|17:59, 11 August 2006 (UTC)}}
::::It ''is'' paraphrased. The real lyrics go "We're tiny, we're toony" and the email goes "''they're'' tiny, ''they're'' toony". See [[Wikipedia:Tiny Toon Adventures#Theme Tune lyrics|Tiny Toon Adventures → Theme Tune lyrics]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:27, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

== Fact Merge ==

# In the theme song we see a close-up on how Strong Bad types with boxing gloves.
# The email shown in the first theme song asks Strong Bad to draw Trogdor again – one of the commonly sent emails that will not be answered.

We could probably merge that into one, seeing as they are both emails that will not be answered (explaining how Strong Bad types with his boxing gloves and redoing an old e-mail). My suggestion: "Seeing how Strong Bad types with his boxing glove, and an e-mailer asking Strong Bad to redo an e-mail are both examples of e-mails that will never be answered". Somebody better at Wikipedianese will have to rewrite that. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 23:38, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
:Strong Bad typing with boxing gloves on is not a reference to emails asking him about it. It's simply what he does. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

:This does not actually show how Strong Bad types with boxing gloves on. It merely shows that he does. If you watch a magician saw a woman in half, it doesnt show how he does it, only that he "did". -JamesDean

:Then the fact is still wrong, because it says we see how, but in actuality we just see that he does. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 14:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

:is this the first time weve seen sb type with glove on from the side? the other times have been from his perspective, i think..{{User:Csours/sig}} 14:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

:I am sure its the first time

::We see a silhouette of him typing from the side in [[The Interview]]. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 02:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

== Super Bad ==

I just wondeling, is the way Johnathan Shaheen adresses SB a reference to [http://www.superbad.com/ superbad.com]?--{{User:The4sword/sig}} 01:48, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

:It's arguable that since it was the email writer who made a possible reference, not TBC, it's a moot point, and it's not worth noting. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

::More: A writer from Ontario making a reference to a California graphic designer's website on The Strong Bad Email Show? Nah... doesn't work for me. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::that is one weird website tho.{{User:Csours/sig}} 19:04, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

== Get Your Degree ==

I tried to go to [[www.cgnuonline-eniversity.edu/]] and got nothing. Someone (preferably the brothers Chaps, but really any of us) needs to do something about that. Or did I mistype?-- [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 02:08, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

:.edu addresses are only available to actual educational institutions. --[[User:Maxamegalon2000|Maxamegalon2000]] 02:33, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::Interestingly, if you replace .edu with .com, you get redirected to a real-estate website. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:06, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Uh, no. When I went to http://www.cgnuonline-eniversity.com/ I got exactly the same website shown in the sbemail: "ebsite Coming Soon(ish)!". Maybe someone should put this reference in the article?
::::if you view it in firefox (my version anyway) you only see the black letters, no colors. {{User:Csours/sig}} 18:43, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I found a link to [http://www.cgnuonline-eniversity.com/ehome-html.html this page] hidden in the exclamation mark after "Soon(ish)". It's just Senor Cardgage's degree list. A [http://whois.domaintools.com/cgnuonline-eniversity.com Whois lookup] reveals that the site is not registered to TBC. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 20:05, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

== The lighter side of fun facts ==

Should the Mad magazine or the sports show reference be the one used? There are four possible votes.

* Mad, as it's more prevalent
* Sports show, as it's a closer match to title
* Both, as there are arguments for both
* Neither, TTATOT

Thoughts? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

:The sports show's title is a perfect match. And I believe TBC have made many more sports references than MAD references. So I think the sports show is definitely the winner here. I also believe it should be included, as most non-Americans won't have heard of the show (like me).{{User:Loafing/sig}} 04:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::I am an American, and I've never heard of the sports show. But my friends and I all read Mad. I think we need more voices. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:05, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Here's an argument I presented in a summary, but not in talk: both are important to list because one is a precise title match BUT is only seen in 75% of the US. THe other we can safely assume is a very likely influence on TBC, but is a weaker match. As we don't know, it's foolish to asume it's one or the other. As an afterthought, it's also likelier than not this TV show's title was also inspired by the magazine feature, as the Berg cartoon series predates it by decades. I don't think there's a more responsible course of action but to list both as we have done. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:10, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
::::An interesting thing is that at first, the Lighter Side feature in Mad would cover one topic (like hair, or love, or whatever) but then later switched to covering a bunch of topics at once. --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 03:39, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

== Casper Theme ==

I feel the first theme song sounds more like the theme song to the original "Casper" cartoon than the Barney Theme... or is this my imagination? "Casper, the friendly ghost..." --Tempestryder
*I can kind of hear the Casper similarity, but honestly I think it just has a generic sing-song tone. I removed the Barney reference. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:19, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
== Degrees of Separation ==
Since the degrees cgnu online offers are already listed in the entry for Crazy go Nuts University, we should simply link to them here. *_Aaron_*
:I think the degrees should stay with the email. They don't take up that much space, and besides we already have the lists of credits. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:27, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

==Spelling of "Gip"==
Hi,

Please see http://www.answers.com/topic/gyp (and to be fair also see http://www.answers.com/topic/gip)

Will you allow my edit of [[theme song]] to stick now?

Thanks [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 00:20, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

:I see your comment in the themesong page. Why don't you note that what SB typed is a mis-spelling? Other transcripts do that. "Gyp" is a slur, related to Gypsies' reputation as thieves. That's why "gyp" is the correct spelling. [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40 00:24]], 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::You do realise that the first link you gave [http://www.answers.com/topic/gyp] says that it's also spelled "gipped"?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:41, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Sure. But the second [http://www.answers.com/topic/gip] doesn't say anything about it (this meaning). "Gip" is obviously not considered a canonical spelling of this particular term by the American Heritage Dictionary, but variant instead. Why don't we add it to the transcript with the note about SB's variant spelling? [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::::That first link you gave is GIP in all caps. Did you see this article [http://www.answers.com/topic/gip-1]? Variants are not misspellings, and are not really important to note. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 01:01, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::It is also questionable that "gyp" really is a slur (see the [[Wiktionary:Gyp|Wiktionary]], though as we discovered earlier today, "gip" is actually not present there for some reason.) We had this discussion earlier today. At any rate, Strong Bad actually types the word "gipped", and according to our [[HRWiki:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]], what Strong Bad types is what we type, whether misspelled, nonsensical, or contrary to what he actually says (though in that last case, we also note what he actually says.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::::That's why I didn't put the slur under "Fun Facts" - I know lots of people would howl about it. [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 00:50, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::[[http://www.google.com/search?q=gyp+roma+slur It's clear]]. Maybe not to lots of people in general, especially Americans, but it's not imaginary. [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 00:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::Even if we accept it, why does it matter to the topic at hand? Many dictionaries accept "gip" as a viable alternative. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Citations, please? [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 01:03, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Why? I believe it's notable. Want me to find examples of SBEmail transcripts where similar things were noted? I'm only trying to note the spelling issue, not the slurring issue. That doens't belong in the transcript, but instead in Trivia or something. [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 01:06, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gip] [http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/gip.html] [http://www.bartleby.com/61/16/G0131600.html] --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:07, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::If you can find one where it's just a variant and not an actual misspelling, then it would be a valid precedent. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 01:09, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::If you can find one where it's just a variant and not an actual misspelling, then I will happily remove it there too, 'cause I really don't think variants are notable. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:11, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::could i just say that gypsy type persons are not actually from egypt, and much prefer to be called roma. {{User:Csours/sig}} 14:54, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::: As you say, "Gypsy" all by itself is a slur, or at best insensitive. "Gyp" is a DOUBLE slur, then, as you clearly noted in your reference to stealing children (editlog comment). I'd say the verdict is in: this will make a KILLER Fun Fact. [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 19:00, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

== Don't delete it, STUFF it (Roma Fun Fact: Real World References) ==

JAY:

Do you have some specific agenda against this subject, or, do you just not think the Fun Fact is true or notable?

It's not fair for you to take it upon yourself to determine its validity. Please either put it back or STUFF it so all can weigh in.

FYI everybody else:

Jay deleted the following from Real World References in Fun Facts.

* "Gipped" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Roma_people#Roma_and_crime|Roma]] ethnic group, who have been stereotyped for centuries as "thieving Gypsies".

[[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 19:53, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
: We've discussed it three ways to Thursday already. Not only is it of questionable veracity, but we don't need to explain the meanings of common words on this Wiki. I mean, we don't create facts like: "A [[Wikipedia:Tire|Tire]] is a round rubber wheel commonly placed on vehicles" on the [[Tire]] page, do we? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:56, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:: Why didn't you comment when I said I'd add this, instead of lurking, waiting to pounce to delete it? You win the edit war for now, because I won't continue it, but for you to participate in the discussion would have been way more classy. [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 19:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::: Besides: You are wrong. This hasn't been discussed however many ways to whatday. This is a Fun Fact proposal. What we discussed before was the Transcript and the spelling, not the reference or the notability of ethnic slurs on the part of H*R characters and authors. Again: Please STUFF this. [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 20:00, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::: Crap the what? Lurking?! I did no such thing! I simply saw a new edit on [[Special:Recentchanges]], decided it didn't work on the page, and reverted it. I didn't even look to see who added it! Next of all, your attacks toward me are unappreciated. And, no, I will not STUFF this. I don't see a reason to. No one else that I've seen supports adding this fact, at least not with the fever pitch you are supporting it with. If someone else with a user name decides that it's STUFFable, then they can, but I won't. You're really not in a position to make demands of me, you know. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:03, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::So, Jay: Am I to understand that when you deleted [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=theme_song&diff=354672&oldid=354664 this], you had not seen [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:theme_song&diff=354631&oldid=354626 this]? [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 22:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That would be a fair assessment, yes. Though I question where you got the idea that "the verdict [was] in" that it was such a "KILLER" fact, given that I saw no consensus of the fact, since I did not see said edit, I did not personally respond. Frankly, I didn't even know the discussion had been moved off of my Talk page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:36, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::: That's why I thought you were lurking in wait. I indicated my intentions, then got denied in short order in editwarrior fashion when I carried it out. Regarding your selfrighteous crabbing about me not seeing the History comments defining a previous "consensus" (of two persons) on that subject, I'd say you better start practicing what you preach: Read the discussions - not least, the Talk page of the article you're watchdogging. I gave fair warning before posting my Fun Fact. Even if I had not, you can discuss it in your edit comment with something more communicative than "'''m''' ''(Reverted edits by 198.49.180.40 (Talk); changed back to last version by 68.54.154.79)''". It makes you look like a robot at best, an undemocratic snob at worst. [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 23:03, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Dude, chill. Don't get personal. If you don't know how the HRWiki works, then don't blame others for it. I would have reversed those edits myself if Jay hadn't been faster; there was nothing wrong with what Jay did. If you really want this fact to be mentioned, then create a user account and STUFF it. But don't dish out insults here. There's really nothing further to talk about on this talk page.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:26, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I have a "rollback" button to revert edits; that's what created the nonspecific "reverted" summary. I try not to overuse it, but sometimes I just don't feel like taking the three extra steps to go back to a previous version just to revert something that people are likely to delete anyway. I mostly use it for vandalism, but sometimes (like in this case) just for issues that have been discussed in the past anyway. I'm sorry that you feel that this is somehow a personal issue. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:36, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::At the risk of sticking my nose where it doesn't belong, I have to say that I did agree with you, 198.49.180.40, until I read the [[Wiktionary:Gyp|Wiktionary]] link. The connection may be notable if "gyp" really is a racial slur, but since it's questionable that "gyp" is derived from "Gypsies", there's nothing solid enough to form into a fun fact. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:09, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::: So, WHY does "gyp" mean stealing or fraud, if it's NOT derived from that stereotype? Where DOES it come from? [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 20:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::: I agree with you, Jay, but when I read your posts, the always seem to have a negative and rude air about them. Calm down, dude. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 20:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::: He's been pushing this down my throat (and, to a lesser, degree, other people's throats, but he's singled me out specifically) since yesterday, ignoring all evidence against his viewpoint, and today he's attacking me directly by saying that I was "lurking" on the page and "pouncing" on his edit, and it's ''my'' posts that have a rude air about them. I hope you can understand if I'm a bit miffed by his attitude. As for his question, a possible etymology is discussed through a page linked on the Wiktionary. For all the references I've seen, they say the gypsy link is likely, but not that there's any evidence of it besides a spelling similarity. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:16, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::: I have utterly, completely conceded to you on the SPELLING issue. That's NOT stuffing anything down anyone's throat. You WON that one, I'm DONE with it. NOW: regarding the Fun Fact, YOU are the one whose tactics evoke an editwar. Not only have you NOT chosen to discuss your knee-jerk, lightning-fast reverts, you have slandered me when forced inoto a discussion. I say again: STUFF it, don't delete it. Why can't you STUFF it? A reasonable person would STUFF it when disagreement on a Fun Fact comes up. I don't have anything to say about Cutepetsrus's accusation of rudeness. Leave me out of that please - it's not my fight. [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 20:58, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::: I'm not slandering you - my beef is that you DID force me into a discussion, and then you accused me (and still are accusing me!) of actions I did not take. If you want it STUFFed so badly, then create a user name and STUFF it. I'm not stopping you from doing that. I'll vote against it if you do, but I'm not standing in your way. (Someone ''will'' delete it if you don't create a user name; that's required of STUFF participants.) Often, Fun Facts get comments like "This is really Talk page material," for detractors, which is how I see this debate. Now then, my "lightning fast revert" was me seeing a new edit on Recent Changes, looking at it, noticing that it was an issue that is pretty much cleared up among all of the regulars, and reverting it. The regulars on this Wiki do things like that all the time. You are taking this way too personally - I would have no problem with you if not for all the yelling at me, but we've already discussed this fact (it came up once before you joined in) and decided against. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:05, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::: Where is that discussion, which you claim the "regulars" already had? It's not on '''this''' page. If you're gonna have a secret committee deciding this stuff, don't be surprised or selfrighteous when someone who didn't read the entire editlog comment history puts up something your Star Chamber already nixed. [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 21:22, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::: It's in the History of the main article page. I'm not accusing you of being stupid or ignorant or whatever for not reading it; my point isn't that you didn't read it. If you didn't read it, you didn't read it. My point is that it happened. Thus, if you made the edit once, it was forgivable. Understandable, even. And, okay, I thought I had brought it up in the previous conversation (see above); apparently, I was mistaken in that, because I don't see it, and I'm sorry for that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:29, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I would like to point out that it only makes sense to mention that "gipped" is an ethnic slur if we believe that the Brothers Chap did mean it that way. But as the annony said himself, this meaning might not be obvious to Americans, i.e. the Brothers Chap. Furthermore, they also used the less obvious "gipped" instead of "gypped", giving us even less reason to believe they meant it that way. I myself am not willing to accuse them of ethnic slander on the basis of such brittle assumptions.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:18, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

: I don't agree. It makes sense to mention it because it's a point of cultural significance, not because TBC '''know''' it's a slur or '''meant''' it as such. Furthermore it's an opportunity to educate. I'm not accusing anyone of insensitivity, I'm trying to bring it to light so ignorance isn't perpetuated. If my kid followed Strong Bad's example, I'd want him to know what he's really saying. Same with anyone who reads hrwiki.org. Believe me, countless Fun Facts are far less "notable" and far, far, far more '''obvious'''. And this '''would not''' be the first Fun Fact that TBC might not have known about. Far from it - accepted, notable Fun Facts are '''full''' of stuff that they didn't think of ahead of time. Of course, they're also full of stuff they '''did''' think of. [[User:198.49.180.40|198.49.180.40]] 21:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

::I agree with Jay, Trey56, Cute Pets R Us, and Loafing. The fact is it's very unlikely that TBC meant an ethnic slur. I have grown up with this word my whole life and didn't know until very recently (when I needed to know how to spell it) that it had any (possible) connection whatsoever with gypsies. If they didn't mean it other than the standard "swindled", then it's just not notable what the etymology is. Strong Bad calls Strong Sad a dork all the time, but we don't for a second believe that TBC are referring to the real meaning of that word. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::: Huh, I just looked up "dork" on Wikipedia. I'd heard that etymology before in a webcomic, but I just assumed that it was a joke invented for that comic. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:34, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I was going to post what It's Dot com just posted myself. Nearly verbatim. So count me among the "unnotable" camp. To the IP commenter, please feel free to sigh in and STUFF this if you feel it's going to be seen by the user base as useful to the page. In my view, it's pointless to continue this circular debate. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:28, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, this has gone '''way too far'''. Gipped is just a slang term. We don't need to define it. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 22:39, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
The fact remains: unless you (198 or anyone else) can provide a source to support your stance that "gypped" is derived from "gypsy", to counter the [http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-gyp1.htm link that has been mentioned several times], then it's ''not'' going to be a Fun Fact... we just don't quote things as ''fact'' that are in question among academics. And no, a link like [http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=gyp this one] that just says "probably short for Gypsy" doesn't count... it's just an assertion, no actual evidence, and it still restrains it with "probably". If you do find one then it'll probably go to STUFF, since it becomes just a purely "is this notable" debate, but before then it's a discussion of facts and belongs on a talk page. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:51, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Here's a discussion on possible origins for the word "gyp": http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/8/messages/634.html; it does appear that no one knows just how it came into useage. Odd, for such a relatively recent word. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 23:58, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::in regard to the discussion about the word gyp itself, 3 things: the roma came to europe in the 1500, 2. in regard to the servants at the college, they had to get their name from somewhere, possiply it is derived from gypsy itself. 3. gee-up, this is a stupid derivation. they just wanted to continue to use the word and have a non-racial derivation to continue to use it. 4. in regard for its use being recent, and localized to the united states, while the origin of the word gypsy is in england, there is a possible link to early silent films trying to sensationalize things by using contraversial stereotypes. 5. three my lord three!! {{User:Csours/sig}} 03:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Interesting. Can you cite sources? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::nope, not a bit. however, all of those sites list gyp as being 'probably' derived from gypsy, which DOES MEAN that gyp is related to the racial stereotype of gyspies in the public consciousness. well, at leat the public that is conscious of it... btw, do we have any instances of where tbc have changed a toon based on something a fansite wrote about it? {{User:Csours/sig}} 04:15, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Re number 2: I [http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-gyp1.htm link to here once again], which says that it comes "from the obsolete French ''jupeau''." As for most sources listing it as "probably from ''gypsy''", Fun Facts with "probably" in them tend to get axed unless they are especially relevant to the toon... and this isn't. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:46, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::sry, i dont read french. also, i agree that this isnt relevent to the toon.{{User:Csours/sig}} 16:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
:yea, if there was any kind of discussion in the email or toon about ethnicity or things like that, this might be a fun fact. as it is, i would consider it ttatot. i DO happen to think that gypped or gipped (as you cant discern a difference between the pronounciations in american english they are the same word to me) is a racial slur against the roma people, but i do not think it is in any way pertinent to the discussion of this email, as most people do not have any idea that there is a real group of people called gypsies or roma. {{User:Csours/sig}} 03:10, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I'd just like to add my two cents here, it seems to me that it was not intended as a slur, and is pretty obscure entymology for a fun fact, and could set a bad precedent (to give a random example, having a later fact stating that hooligan is a word that is comparing the person to a career criminal from the 1890s [[wikipedia:Hooliganism|Hooliganism]] which would have equal validity to this fact) [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 20:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

== Based on the comedy of... ==

I don't think that's just a reference to Jerry Seinfeld. I'm pretty sure that phrase is used on and about other sitcoms centered around a character played by a stand up comedian; I know they say "based on the comedy of Ray Romano" in the credits of Everybody Loves Raymond, and I've heard the phrase "based on the comedy of Bernie Mac" used in regards to The Bernie Mac Show. And then they used the phrase "based on the comedy of Gollum" on Saturday Night Live in the credits of the fictional sitcom "A Hard Hobbit to Break". but that last one's just the cough of a metaphorically dying poster who realizes he only has two barely credible citations for his argument. Then again, these could just be a few isolated events and my comments shall be criticized until destruction. {{User:VolatileChemical/sig}} 02:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

:As I wrote that Fun Fact, let me respond. Yes, ELR uses a similar credit. But this credit happens as Strong Bad is in front of a red brick wall. That's a direct reference to ''Seinfeld'', clearly. Why then would the credit be a generic reference when it's deliberately coupled with a specific one? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

::I've also heard the phrase used for "Home Improvement", "Lucky Louie", "Schimmel", "Everybody Hates Chris", "The George Lopez Show", "I Love Lucy", "Fat Albert" and even "Merv the Perv" on Saturday Night Live. A simple Google search will show anyone that people use this phrase tons of times unrelated to Jerry Seinfeld! It may be a partial reference in the email seeing as the phrase is also used referring to "Seinfeld" but not completely! {{User:VolatileChemical/sig}} 12:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

==Live Studio Audience==
Does anyone else feel it's worth mentioning that this is the second time that the claim has been made that Strong Bad Emails are filmed before a live studio audience? Strong Bad said that at the begining of super powers.--[[User:71.14.74.35|71.14.74.35]] 17:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

:Second ocurrences usually aren't worth noting. However, something could be added to [[Strong Bad Email]] noting, "Strong Bad's Emails are apparently filmed before a live studio audience, as he says in [[super powers]] and [[theme song]]" or something like that. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 00:30, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

::I'd say "unnotable" at this point. The [[super powers]] line was a one-off, and this one was clearly a reference to TV shows. If it occurs again, perhaps then it'll be notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

== Unaired pilot? ==

The reference to 'the best clips they show are from the un-aired pilot that you'll never see' reminds me of Firefly. The opening sequence of that was filled with clips from the show's pilot which wasn't aired, and Strong Bad is floating in space as he says it, which also resembles Firefly's pilot.

: I agree. I expected to see this on the Article page as an Outside Reference, but maybe it's too vague a reference for that.

::I think it is. I can't think of titles, but i know there are a number of shows where this is true, especially in the first season of the show where there's little footage to choose from. It would be TTATOT to include a specific reference, and anything more general is simply restating what SB said. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:24, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

:::'Sides, Firefly's pilot actually was aired on most Fox/SciFi affiliates that were actively showing it; it was just aired last. This according to Joss's commentary on several of the episodes and, (IIRC) his discussions of the show in general on the extras of the DVD box set. It's common enough not to air a pilot that this seems more like a reference to the television industry than a specific reference to Firefly.

== sorry ==

sorry about that last edit. there was an edit conflict and so i just threw out whatever the other person was trying to do. i'll try to be more careful next time. -- [[User:MechanicalOne|MechanicalOne]] 19:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

== period + e = New button? ==

While singing the opening theme, when Strong Bad types the .exe to 'brow-ser', you only hear him hitting the keyboard three times. But, he types in 4 letters. The '.', the two 'e's, and the 'x'.
:I guess he must have typed one of them rather quietly then... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

== Email browser ==

:''The song Strong Bad sings at the beginning and end of this email refers to a "rainstorm in your browser," but e-mail is usually viewed in a separate email client, not a browser. (Although webmail services do exist, Strong Bad does not appear to be using one.)''

This is not a STUFF question, because it's still a question of whether we are interpreting the toon correctly, not whether it's a fun enough fact. Specifically, the issue is whether we believe Strong Bad is referring to himself or us. I believe he's referring to us and our browsers, not his email client. If the consensus of this discussion should be that he's talking about this email client, only ''then'' would it be appropriate to STUFF it to decide whether it's notable enough to list. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:50, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

:I originally deleted that one for the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=theme_song&diff=prev&oldid=354752 exact reasons you cite]. If there's a reasonable way to say something makes perfect sense, it's unreasonable to claim in a Fun Fact it doesn't in another context. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
::Besides—the [http://www.gmail.com best email] ''is'' in your browser... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:33, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
:Personally, I think your interpretation is pretty far-fetched. However, I am willing to agree to disagree as long as we can have a fun fact indicating that this is a fourth wall break. — [[User:MechanicalOne|MechanicalOne]] 16:17, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

== Lightbulbs ==

They talk about lightbulbs or show lightbulbs alot in the cartoons. Shouldn't there be a page about lightbulbs? - anon

:For gags like Homestar's love of light bulbs, we generally wait until there are 3 or more instances. As is, with only 2, it's easy enough to mention them on [[long pants]] and here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
::light globes get some all time{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Of course they do. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:20, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

== Mama's Family ==

The second theme song idea with the pictures of each different cast member seemed very similar to the opening of [[Wikipedia:Mama's Family|Mama's Family]] To me. I don't see this in the article, but I just wanted to say this.
:"The succession of picture frames was a common element of several shows." (Real-World References) {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:15, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

== Alley? ==

The alleyway has brick walls, this has grey. Also, there are many crates. I would assume this is where Senor Cardgage works, it looks like a warehouse. Anyway, it's certainly not the alleyway. Will edit to reflect. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

== Separate keyboard ==

Why did someone remove my fun fact about Strong Bad using a separate keyboard during the first theme song? That's not open to speculation or whatever, you can plainly see that. -- [[User:MechanicalOne|MechanicalOne]] 16:06, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
:It's listed under "Trivia" [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 04:14, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

== Reverting Levert ==

The "fun fact" that Levert Burtmore is a reference to Levar Burton has been reverted several times, and probably will be again. See, if you look at the link [[Levert Burtmore]] (which is in Inside Refs, IIRC) you'll see this is a case of Inside Reference. Yes, normally we don't refer to something that is in itself a reference, but this is a gray one where it's more likely than not they are not directly referencing ol' Geordie LaForge but are referring to their own parody of the name from [[dullard]]. I don't like to pull rank, but in this case, trust me. I've seen everything on the site many times, and this is for sure a reference to their own creation, not to the actor. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

== E-niversity E-volution E-day ==

I didn't want to add this because it was not very solid, but E-day is a term used for the day Japanese-Americans were evacuated from the West Coast into inland internment camps. This could also be the reason for the line, "Uh, well, today. That last one didn't quite work out." Japanese internment is looked back on as a major breach of civil rights, so one might say it "didn't quite work out."
:Or it could just be because "E-niversity" and "E-volution" sound like their original words, but "E-day" just doesn't sound like "today". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== another second reference to wait for the third... ==

Just sayin' that this is the second time that Bubs's concession stand is used as a backdrop for a routine, following Bubs's own attempts on Halloween. So...if it's used again, someone can pounce.

Sir Loodabert Comma

ComputerBox — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 03:39:04 GMT

ComputerBox: I believe Sherpa is an ethnic group, not a job.

[[Image:comma discovery.jpg|thumb|right|300px|The Discovery of Comma]]
In the [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner Universe]] (or at least in [[Strong Bad]]'s [[Strong Bad Lore|imagination]] about the past) the [[Wikipedia:Comma (punctuation)|comma]] was named after '''Sir Loodabert Comma''', who is pictured here with his sherpa. The exact time period in which he lived is unknown, though it was evidently around the time that ''The [[Castlefunnies]]'' came out.

Sir Loodabert is portrayed by [[Matt Chapman]], with [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] as "sherpa".

Sir Loodabert Comma and sherpa is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Edmund_Hillary|Sir Edmund Hillary]] and the Sherpa [[Wikipedia:Tenzing Norgay|Tenzing Norgay]]. In 1953, they were the first men to reach the summit of [[Wikipedia:Mount Everest|Mount Everest]].

==Complete Filmography==

*'''Debut:''' Email [[old comics]]

[[Category:Characters]]

Talk:Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True

ComputerBox — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:48:59 GMT

ComputerBox: /* YouTube */

== How is it found? ==

How is this toon found on the DVD? I can't find it, it's NOT in the bonus stuff menu. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 18:42, 14 Nov 2004

:Oh yes it is. Bonus Stuff Menu on Disc One. It's just hidden. I wouldn't know how to find it on an actual DVD player, but on my PC, I just moused up to the right of the BONUS STUFF header. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 17:54, 13 Nov 2004 (MST)
::You just highlight "Bonus Email 1" and keep pressing right until you see a Strong Bad icon, then press ENTER/PLAY. [[User:woddfellow2|<nowiki></nowiki>]]-<tt>[[User:woddfellow2|woddfellow2]]|[[User talk:woddfellow2|✎</tt>]] 15:41, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)

== Not old drawing style ==

This is not old drawing style. Homestar looks perfectly recent.

Ah, but notice Strong Bad's eyes and the color of Marzipans Dress.

And Homestar's lighter outline, and the lack of shading on the characters, Strong Bad's mexican accent, Strong Mad not talking, The King of Town's shinier crown, Strong Sad's longer arms... -[[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]]

== How does Marzipan sound? ==

How does Marzipan sound like on which episode? --[[User:80.217.162.254|80.217.162.254]] 03:53, 26 Mar 2005 (MST) <math>Insert formula here</math>

She sounds like Strong Sad, Viklas. -[[User:Poopsmith Z|Poopsmith Z]]

== LUTE?!? ==

"Hold! Whilst thy banter is the freshest of any month-old fruit, I must away, you poppinjays! I'm off to find me lute! Forsooth!" How do we know it's not supposed to be "I'm off to find me loot!" instead of "lute?" →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:28, 26 Jan 2005 (MST)
: Er, because he's seen playing a lute later in the toon? And because "lute" fits the context much better? (He thinks he's a bard.) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:37, 26 Jan 2005 (MST)
*That's True... The first time I saw it I just assumed he said "loot." Oh well...
→[[User:evin290|evin290]]

== Closed STUFF ==

These were on the [[STUFF]] page and declined. If you wish to contest the removal of any of these, post a comment here (make sure it won't be confused with any of the original votes).

=== The Only Time? (Declined) ===
This is the ONLY toon where the voice of Marzipan isn't supplied by Missy (it's supplied by Matt)
*'''Neutral''' What about [[mile]]? Maybe it is, maybe not. --[[User:Ed smildE|ED!smilde]]
**Probably not. [[Mike Chapman|Mike]] does all the voices in the Powered By the Cheat cartoons. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]]
*<s>'''Neutral''', because I have no idea where this fun fact was. This really should be in one of the toon categories. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]</s>
** Probably [[Tis True, Pom Pom, Tis True]]. And yeah, I created the "General" category for things that DIDN'T apply to one specific 'toon... gah... --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:46, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
***Okay then, I've put this FF here, for the time being at least. But I still don't have a vote, since I haven't seen the toon and don't have the DVD (still, only four more days 'till I do!). --[[User:Upsilon|[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]]]
****On the other hand, perhaps not. Humbug. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== Screenshot ==

How de crap do jou get a screenshot for de DVD? Like, from off de TV? I would kill some juy to know dat right dere, jou know. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 00:52, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Get a DVD drive for your computer. Most DVD Players should have a Capture tool. That's what I use, anyway.

== I's ==
Does anybody know what font the word FiNiSH is written in? I'm trying to see if there is enough reason for there to be a page about an inside joke of lowercase i's that should be uppercase, so I want to know if it's Strong Bad's handwriting or not. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 03:17, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)
: Just checked. Definitely nothing like SB's handwriting. Still lowercase "i"s in an otherwise-all-caps word. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:44, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)

==What are they really saying?==

When Homestar first sees everyone in his delusion, everything they say sounds like echos. But I'm not sure that the "echos", especially for Marzipan's second line and Strong Sad's line, match what Homestar hears. However, I can't make out exactly WHAT they're saying. Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:52, 20 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:Yes those two echoes definitely do not matching what they say. It sounds like Strong Sad is really saying "Welllll, <something> four year" and I can't get Marzipan's words at all except it sounds like the last thing she says is a whimper. --Tracey

==Marzipan? Crap?==
I believe that this may be the first time that Marzipan has said "Crap." -Fizz123

WEll, actually marzipan says crap in three times hallowen funjob too.

==Strong Sad is Dressed As...==
I am really convinced Strong Sad is dressed as a nun, not a monk. Monks don't wear those winged white hats, plus the robe design of white against black is more like a nun's. Someone back me up on this please. --Tracey
:It sounds like you may be on to something. I don't have my discs with me to check, so hopefully someone else will see this note. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:21, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Okay so how do I call attention to this so we can get some more opinions? --Tracey

It's a nun. {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}}
:Hey, can someone get pictures of them for [[Other Costumes]]? - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== YouTube ==

Is it really okay to have a link to a YouTube copy of a DVD-exclusive 'toon? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:58, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

:No. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:06, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
:: Okay. I thought as much. I would have removed it if I was sure, but then, that's why I asked. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:01, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
:::But YouTube is full of copyrighted stuff used without permission. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::::If anything, that should be more reason ''not'' to link to it from here, wouldn't you think? The bonus features are the main things that make the DVDs worth buying. If you can get them without buying the DVDs then it reduces the amount of merchandise TBC can sell. The H*R site mainly still exists because they are able to support themselves by selling merchandise. You see where I'm going with this? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Our transcripts are kinda like watching the bonus features without buying the DVDs. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:55, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::As someone who doesn't have Everything Else, I can tell you that just by reading the decriptions from the transcript, I have no idea how the actuall toon looks like. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:06, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::But now that this is on the talk page people will know it's there. Quick! Delete this section! --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 15:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Website Sightings

ComputerBox — Tue, 22 Aug 2006 19:37:00 GMT

ComputerBox: /* "The Lost Experience" ABC's Official Blog */

{{sightingslanguagewarning}}

== The 2004 Cartoonist's Choice Awards ==
[[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]] won in the Best Use of Flash category at [http://www.ccawards.com/2004.htm "The 2004 Cartoonist's Choice Awards"]

==The $39 Experiment==
On a site called [http://www.the39dollarexperiment.com The $39 Experiment] a man named Tom Locke sent 100 letters to 100 companies asking for free stuff. In [http://www.the39dollarexperiment.com/march15.htm one letter] to "Del Monte Pet Products" Tom claims that he has a dog named [[Li'l Brudder]].

== 8-Bit Theater ==
*In [http://www.nuklearpower.com/redmage21.php Twinkin' out with RedMage 21:Errata!], a-once weekly advice column, a reader inquires: "How does strong bad type with boxing gloves"


== 8BitJoystick.com ==
In [http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_how_to_burn_xbox_games_and_copy_protected_cds.php this article] about how to literally burn CDs, the author notes to "burn it properly like Trogdor burninates the peasants."

== Addicting Games ==
*[http://www.addictinggames.com The site] features [[Stinkoman 20X6]] and [[TROGDOR!]]
*[[Awexome Cross]] and [[Population: Tire]] were on the site before it was redesigned.
*In the game [http://www.addictinggames.com/trackmaster.html Track Master], if you get a good score it says good jorb.
*In the game [http://www.http://www.addictinggames.com/slacker2.html Slacker 2], after you beat the game there is an epilogue, and if you zoom in on Slacker's nametag, it has a picture of [[Homestar Runner]].

== All Your Base parody list ==
The [http://tmst.twu.net/ayb/ayb.htm TmsT Zero Wing Parodies Emporium] features "[http://tmst.twu.net/ayb/allyourstrongbad.htm All Your HomeStarRunner are belong to Trogdor]".

== The Andy Milonakis Show website (MTV2) ==
[http://www.mtv2.com/#andymilonakis The website] for this show has the marshmallow [[Wallpaper]] on the background of Videos, Photos, Episodes, Cast, and Shop.

==Animalxing.com==
*On the [http://www.animalxing.com/patternsv3/textures.php Textures] page, They have many Homestar related designs such as Homestar, Strong Bad, The Cheat, etc. that can be found by typing in the search box.
*An image of [[Strong Bad]] to be used on the Animal Crossing cat, Blanca, appears [http://www.animalxing.com/blanca_ah.php here.]

== Atari Age ==
At [http://www.atariage.com this site], someone hacked the Atari "Donkey Kong" game. Player, Enemy, and Object sprites have been changed to resemble characters from Homestar Runner. [http://www.atariage.com/hack_page.html?SystemID=2600&SoftwareHackID=186 You can find it here].

== BB-Spot-''Which website are you?'' ==
In the [http://www.bbspot.com/News/2005/02/website_quiz.php website personality test] at www.bbspot.com, one of the [http://bbspot.com/News/2005/02/website_quiz_all.html possible answers] you can get is Homestarrunner.com.

== Best Page In The Universe ==
On [http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net thebestpageintheuniverse.net] in one of Maddox's rants about the amount of emails he gets, he [http://maddox.xmission.com/aliens.html makes a little ode] to The Brothers Chaps. This must mean he is aware of homestarrunner.com, and according to his book signing tour in 2006, he likes Strong Bad. The actual quote is "I know there are other big websites out there that generate a lot of email (my sympathies to the Chapman brothers)".

== Bryan Waterman Interview ==
Bryan Waterman, who does the series "''[http://www.watermanstudios.com Waterman]''" had an interview and he mentioned the best internet cartoon was Homestar Runner:
<blockquote>
:''Who is your favorite flash movie artist or flash artists if you have more than one? What are some of your favorite flash movie series?''

:'''BRIAN WATERMAN:''' Above all else Homestar Runner not only do I love the cartoon, Mike and Matt are two good friends of mine. Bonus Stage is another one I really like and I do look forward to Joseph's animations.
</blockquote>
[http://www.medaverse.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=2&page=2 See It Here]

== Charlie Clay And The Clay Crew ==
At [http://www.freewebs.com/charlieclay/ this site], all of Season 1's episodes contain Homestar cameos.

[http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2209220516.gif&s=x4 Episode 1] A Trogdor arcade game can be seen behind the Sonic arcade game that the crew is playing.

[http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2209253732.gif&s=x4 Episode 2] The crew finds a grey monster, but when they put the flashlight on it, they find out it is actually Homestar and he helps them get their power back.

[http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2915224932.gif&s=x2 Episode 3] Jacob wears Homestar's shoes and gets beat up by Homestar, the text "ROCK'D" pops up when Charlie is hit by a rock in the head, the text "ROCK'D AGAIN!" pops up as a guy who commented the grammar error gets a rock thrown at his head, and Trogdor gets defeated by Charlie doing homing attack on him.

[http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=2/3916110594.gif&s=x7 Episode 4] "Thief'd" is the episode name and Homestar gets stolen by the thief.

[http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=3/6215223823.gif&s=x10 Episode 5] Homestar escapes from the thief with Charlie.

== Choose your own change ==
If you submit a story to [http://www.cyoc.net Choose Your Own Change], the following message appears: "Your article has been received... If Instructions on the previous page have been followed your story will be posted soon, if not it will be [[DELETED|baleeted!]]"

== Comcast.net ==
[[Image:Comcast Homestar.PNG|thumb|It's Dot Net!]]
On June 10th, 2004, HomestarRunner.com was featured on [http://www.comcast.net Comcast.net's] main page as the icon for its "FUN FOR ALL AGES" news article, where [[Homestar Runner]]'s image was displayed, along with a link to the website and [[The Brothers Chaps]]' meeting with G4TechTV.

== Crash Mania ==
On [http://crashmania.topcities.com/ this] site, [http://crashmania.topcities.com/paltiny.png this] screenshot has the profile name listed as "[[Fhqwhgads|Fhqwgads]]".

== Dance Dance Immolation ==
On a site for Dance Dance Immolation, a flaming DDR, a gallery contains a picture of a man on fire with the caption "BURNINATED!!". [http://www.interpretivearson.com/gallery/album05?page=3]

== Dangerskew ==
*A flash developer on [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com Albino Black Sheep], Dangerskew, is a reference to [[Dangeresque]].
*Some of the games developed by this author are [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/cheeserobots Attack of the Cheese Eating Robots], [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/industry Industry], and [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/redlight Red Light].

== Double-Tongued Word Wrester ==
Neolinguist Grant Barrett has done an [http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/comments/3102/ entry on "asplode"] on his site. It looks like "asplode" was not coined by the Brothers Chaps, but he agrees that "This term was popularized in 2004 by the character Strong Bad on the HomestarRunner web site."

== Duct Tape Guys ==
At [http://www.ducttapeguys.com DuctTapeGuys.com] on [http://www.octanecreative.com/ducttape/fashion/accessories/accessories1.html this]
webpage there is a picture of a duct tape backpack featuring Strong Bad, Marzipan, and Homestar.

== Episode Comparisons ==
The anime episode comparison site [http://mmpu.smuncensored.com/ Mew Mew Power Uncensored] sometimes uses the term [[DELETED|Baleeted]] and frequently uses the Teen Girl Squad-esque term [[-'d|DELET'D]] in their comparisons to say when a scene was cut out.

== Eric Conveys The Brothers Chaps? ==
*Eric at [http://www.emotioneric.com Eric Conveys an Emotion] got together with The Brothers Chaps for a rough and tumble game of football, complete with Eric's warped and hilarious sense of humor. See a step-by-step progression of [http://www.emotioneric.com/ae/?adv=thefootballgame The Game]. On page 1 [[Trogdor]] is in the background, on page 2 [[The Ugly One]] is in the background, on page 3 [[Old-Timey Homestar]] is in the background, on page 4 Homestar is in the background, on page 5 [[Strong Bad]] is in the background, on page 6, [[The Cheat]] is actually in the foreground, on page 7, [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]] and a keg of [[Melonade]] are in the background, and on page 8, [[Stinkoman]] is in the background.
*Also, in "getting a great idea... while falling to your doom" Eric has a [[Homsar]] shirt on. [http://www.emotioneric.com/greatideafalldoom.jpg greatideafalldoom.jpg]

== Europa Universalis Forums ==
This site has a large number of fanfiction entries for Paradox Entertainment games, such as Europa Universalis and Hearts of Iron. The author Prufrock451 put a "Private Benedetto" in [http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204565 this] Hearts of Iron 2 After Action Report. He's told to "keep that mess down".

== Fake Domain Registration Info ==
The [http://whois.webhosting.info/OLENE.NET. registration information] provided for "olene.net" references [[Mundelow]], [[Schenectady Crispies]], [[some kinda robot|Abdi LaRue]], [[Cheap as Free]], [[cheat talk|Cory, ND]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Badia]], [[Free Country, USA]], [[Coach Z]], and [[Coach Z's Locker Room|his locker room]].

== FeedBurner ==
[[Image:FeedBurner_Sighting.png|thumb|Let's date.]]
On the [http://www.feedburner.com FeedBurner] website, in the section in which you can manage your feeds, random messages show up. One of them is this: "To the nearly 140,000 customers using FeedBurner... we are [http://www.homestarrunner.com/tgs2.html totally crushing] (in a good way)." The link takes you to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 2]].

== Flame Warriors ==
The [http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/garble.htm entry for Garble] includes a reference to a certain [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?|infamous question often asked of Strong Bad]].

== Flying Omelette's Kitchen ==
*According to [http://www.flyingomelette.com/ this site], Strong Bad may have been switched at birth with Viewtiful Joe or the Red Power Ranger as found in [http://www.flyingomelette.com/oddities/oddities45.html this article] .
*Also, The Cheat is compared to Pikachu in [http://www.flyingomelette.com/oddities/oddities31.html this article].

== The Force.net Humor ==
At a Star Wars Fansite's humor section one of their "Top 46 lists" titled 'Top 47 lesser known goals of the evil empire' says "Secret co-production of Dangeresque 1, 2, & 3" at number 8. [http://www.theforce.net/humor/topten/ct10_lesser_known_goals_pt1.asp The List] [http://www.theforce.net/humor The Site]

==Forum Stage==
On the main page, the description for episode 1 is "Idiot gets sucked into the internet creating a cartoon so bad, [[Homestar Runner]] died." It can be seen [http://www.editthis.info/FSwiki/index.php/Internet here.]

== Fred The Monkey ==
[http://www.fredthemonkey.com/ Fred the Monkey.com] is a Flash animation site that is greatly influenced by Homestar Runner. It's been around for three years now. Like Homestar Runner, the site features a "First Time Here"-video and a mailbag, very much like Strong Bad's e-mail, and in the sixteenth mailbag, he comments on how he gets a lot of emails from people pretending to be Strong Bad. Another more obvious reference is displayed in [http://www.fredthemonkey.com/cartoons/reviewSM2.html this toon], where Fred The Monkey wears a Strong Bad mask at the end.

== Fruitcake MIDI ==
Dr. Fruitcake, a famous video game music sequencer and remixer, has created a song called "The Occasional Beat (Strong Bad Remix)" in tribute to [[new hands]]. Check the song out [http://www.fcmidi.net/mp3/drf_bw_beat.mp3 here]. [http://www.fcmidi.net Fruitcake MIDI]

== Funny Junk ==
In a flash cartoon [http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/smurf.htm here](warning: adult material), Strong Bad is dancing in the middle of the screen at about the middle of the flash cartoon. He dances like he does in [[The Luau]].

== Funny Part ==
[http://www.funnypart.com Funny part], a website with numerous funny pictures, cartoons, and jokes, had [[Teen Girl Squad]] issues 2 and 3 on their website, though they have since been removed. 

== Futurama Madhouse ==
At the [http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar Futurama Madhouse], they have a regular feature on "Uses for a hacker".
*[http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/hacker/hack498.png Use #498] is entitled "Homsar's Translator" and features everyone's favorite blue midget Homestar, [[Homsar]]!
**Also notable is the fact that the copyright reads "© [[Tandy 400]], [[The Brothers Chaps|Chapman Bros]]".
*[http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/hacker/hack667.png Use #667] is entitled "Homestar Runner's Evil Twin", and features, just that.
*[http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/hacker/hack669.png Use #669], entitled "Strong Bad's Torture Victims Who Misspell Repeetedli", is the latest Homestar-related use for a hacker.

== G4TV ==

When under construction, the official site for [http://www.g4tv.com G4TV] displayed an error message which read [http://www.g4tv.com/errored.html?eventlog_key=1776941 "ERROR'ed!"]

==Gamecheetz==
*Homestar Runner is mentioned on the [http://www.gamecheetz.com GameCheetz] [http://www.gamecheetz.com/Links.html link] page under "Excellent Humorous Sites".
*In the comic [http://www.gamecheetz.com/Comic.php?comic=15692 "Buzz Buzz"], there's a caption in the 7th frame that reads "If you don't know what this means, you need to go to homestarrunner.com".
*One of the Forum avatars is a picture of Ilko's head.

== GameFAQs ==
*On the [http://www.gamefaqs.com GameFAQs] video game database, there are pages for [[Peasant's Quest]] [http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/online/data/922153.html here] and [[Stinkoman 20X6]] [http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/online/data/928815.html here], where each game has user-submitted walkthroughs, reviews and more, as well as its own message board!
*Homestar Runner is listed as a company [http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/company/75484.html here].
*Also, The Unofficial Homestarrunner board can be found [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=575567 here.]
*On April Fools 2006, a [http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2333 poll] on GameFAQs listed a series of internet phrases, one of which being "YOUR HEAD ASPLODE".

== The Game Rag ==
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In [http://www.thegamerag.com/archives/2006/07/feature_my_24_hours_with_g4tv_2.php My 24 Hours With G4TV], the author writes at 3am: "[I]t’s late and I’m getting tired. I begin to go slightly insane, and draw [[Trogdor]] on the bottom of my foot." A [http://www.thegamerag.com/pics/Foot1.jpg photo] of his drawing is included in the article, sans wings.

== Golo Theme song ==
In this [http://web.mac.com/davidgonzalez3/iWeb/Site/Podcast/A3D987B8-0E97-4554-9478-C563F78E60F4.html song], D.J Silver and his little brother Diego both mention the email [[privileges]].

== Google ==
*Google's secret plans for an upcoming project are codenamed Trogdor. An article about these plans can be found at [http://www.valleywag.com/tech/google/googles-secret-plans-trogdor-calendar-and-wifi-153854.php this site].

*On an episode of Google Current, the host (Conor Knighton) wears a Strong Bad shirt. [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8426498908161701167&q=Aqua+Teen&pl=true Video]

== Hardcore Gaming 101 ==
In the [http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/bioniccommando/bioniccommando.htm Bionic Commando article], the writer mentions a "strong Badd" (the name of the enemy army), and then proceeds to laugh over his gag and pointing it out.

== Holy Bibble ==
* On the comic page of comic [http://www.holybibble.net/index.php?id=93 #93], Cannan mentions "Every time somebody gets burninated in Holy Bibble, I get the most awesome dreams..."

== Homokaasu.org ==
A Homestar Runner [http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator/gallery.gas?1331 wall-size printout] demonstrating homokaasu.org's Rasterbator software (Web service)

==Howstuffworks.com==
In this [http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/cold-heat1.htm article] about the Cold Heat soldering iron, they refer to the solder as being "burninated", an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].

== IGN ==
*The image behind the Nintendo Wi-Fi Registration Tool is from a [[Teen Girl Squad]] comic in [http://ds.ign.com/articles/665/665128p1.html this article].
*In the Animal Crossing: Wild World video review at the 2:52 mark, there is a selection screen where you pick the design for your clothes. There are three Homestar inspired designs, including the red star shirt, a Homestar head, and Strong Bad. The video selection page is found [http://media.ds.ign.com/media/682/682878/vids_1.html here], and the actual video is on the top left, or [http://media.ds.ign.com/media/682/682878/vid_1341240.html here.]

== I-Mockery==
*I-Mockery's Great American Road Trip
**At a medievil fair, RoG sees a simplistic dragon toy, and compares it to [[Trogdor]]. See the page [http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/american-roadtrip/day4b.php here].
*EVOLUTION OF JACK!
**After Pjalne pretends to have stabbed himself in the arm, there is a picture of Andy with a caption of "Halloween'd", which is a direct reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]]. See the page [http://www.i-mockery.com/halloween/bag/jack3.php here].
*Bishop of Battle
**On the second page of his review, the image of the Bishop swallowing J.J. is captioned with a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], "YOUR HEAD A SPLODE!" A direct link to the page is available [http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/bishopofbattle/page2.php here]. Contains profanity.

== Insert Disc Two ==
In the sketch [http://www.insertdisctwo.com/jamesjoyce.htm My Dream Date with James Joyce], Lori Williams' character has a [[The Cheat]] doll on her bed.

== Inspirational Posters ==
A website cataloguing [http://www.thornyscrate.com/~wes/roleplaying/inspirational2/page_01.htm inspirational posters] based on role-playing games includes one titled "[http://www.thornyscrate.com/~wes/roleplaying/inspirational2/artistry.jpg Artistry]", which features the "S is for Sucks" from [[dragon]].

== Jay is games ==
[http://jayisgames.com/ Jay is games] is a site that reviews a large number of online games. They have had reviews of [[Peasant's Quest]] [http://jayisgames.com/archives/2004/08/peasants_quest.php] and [[Thy Dungeonman 3]] [http://jayisgames.com/archives/2006/04/thy_dungeonman.php].

== JengaJam.com ==
[http://www.jengajam.com This] website always puts up links to the latest Homestar updates. The name of the site came from Homsar's quote in [[Where's The Cheat?]]

== The Joshua Childers Show! ==
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihqpZLId31g/ The Joshua Childers Show!] is a webshow on [http://www.YouTube.com/ YouTube] where a teenager parodies different TV show genres. In the first episode, Joshua is seen wearing a [[Stinkoman]] shirt.

==Kings of Chaos==
After attacking an enemy in the MMORPG [http://www.kingsofchaos.com/ Kings of Chaos], the victory page will sometimes say "You burninated the enemy!" an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].

== La La La ==
The video "[http://www.flashplayer.com/music/lalala.html La La La]" on UGOplayer contains a few Homestar Runner characters, including Strong Bad and Homestar Runner. It also includes the Homestarmy wallpaper image, edited to suit the cartoon.

== Legendaryfrog.net ==
*In [http://www.legendaryfrog.net/flashmovies/kerri3.htm Kerrigan's Big Invention] there is a picture of Strong Bad and Homestar on the chalk board.
*In [http://www.legendaryfrog.net/flashmovies/avp.htm Senya's movie review: Alien V.S. Predator] there are several cheat commandos toys by the toy box.
*In the newest cartoon the main characters name is Brudder, an obvious referance to Lil' Brudder.

== Lemmy's Land ==
In one of [http://www.lemmykoopa.com/ Lemmy's] [http://www.lemmykoopa.com/lk35/lk35.php Funnies] called [http://www.lemmykoopa.com/lk35/lk35.php?&Submission=514 "Superstar Mario in Too Much Water"] By Drew, we see the classic "Scene missing" bit from [[Parsnips A-Plenty]] and [[The Homestar Runner]] says, "What?" while Mario was still drinking water to become fat.

== "The Lost Experience" ABC's Official Blog ==
In [http://blogs.abc.com/inside_the_experience/ Speaker's "Reader Mail 2"], after one question was repeated one too many times, Speaker angrily responds, "Grah! What? Who? GAH! Is this my 'How do you type with boxing gloves on?' question?"
Later, Speaker posted a "Video Reader Mail" on YouTube, which prominently featured the [[Kick The Cheat]] doll in the background and referred to "e-mail personalities" having raspy voices (like [[Strong Bad]]).

== Mind Body Guide ==
*Strong Bad is the featured image of a slightly tongue-in-cheek tally of the body’s many muscles on [http://mindbodyguide.ca/articles/many-muscles.php this site].
*Strong Bad Email [[suntan]] is quoted when the article states, "let’s not forget the cloits and dloits!"
*The [http://mindbodyguide.ca/articles/many-muscles.php#note1 footnote] says "There are no such thing as cloits or dloits. This is a reference to anatomy according to Strong Bad, which is hilarious, and included here entirely for the sake of comic relief. Kind of like the whole article, come to think of it."

== More Awesome Than You! ==
*[http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com This] page (warning: explicit "under construction" graphic) the index.html page title is "More Awesome Than You PAY PLUS!", an obvious reference to [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].
*The main logo has a picture of [[Trogdor]] on it.
*Seven of the sub-forums are marked as been in the "[[Trogdor|Burnination]]" parent forum. One of the child forums in the "Burnination" parent forum is entitled "[[Peasantry]]". Another is titled "[[theme park|Bowels of Trogdor]]". Yet another is titled "[[Planet K]] [[20X6]]". A child forum under the "Peasantry" forum is "Made-Up Animals", with the description: "[[animal|If you were a sim, what would you like as if?]]"
*Several phrases used are similar, or based on Homestar Runner phrases. Examples include: "Game exploding in a [[pom pom|big fiery ball that is visible from space]]" and "[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|GameCube is no place for a mighty warrior.]]"
*One of the available objects is the Trogdor topiary from [[Weclome Back]] ([http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,5284.msg151811.html#msg151811]).

== Neglected Characters ==
*[http://www.smbhq.com/nc/ This] is a site where the Neglected Characters of Mario games are honored. One of them, [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/guide.html Dr. Donez], answers questions regularly (much like [[Strong Bad Email]]) at [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/askdrd.html Ask Dr. Donez].
**In [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/e501600.html question 595], [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/v14011500.html question 1412], and [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/v18011900.html question 1842] he gets asked how he types with boxing gloves on his hands, which he responds differently each time.
*In one of Bowser's [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/election/radical/bowser/speeches.html speeches], Koopa asks Bowser, "How do you know Trogdor?" and he replies "We went to Burniniation classes together."

== Neopets ==
*[http://www.neopets.com Neopets] released a new avatar with the caption "Your Lupe A Splode" which is an obvious reference to [[video games]] and [[StrongBadZone]].
[[Image:Yourlupeasplode.gif]]
*In this avatar, the caption reads "Garlic'd!" at the end-an obvious Teen Girl Squad reference.
[[Image:Runaway garlic.gif]]
*Another avatar features a Scorchio (a dragon-like Neopet) with the caption "Burninate!", an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].
[[Image:Scordrax.gif]]
*Neopets also has an avatar reserved for theneopetsteam, a staff username, which references the "a splode."
[[Image:Tntasplode.gif]]
*There is also a Petpet Laboratory, that can change your Petpet's image, and one thing that can happen is your Petpet's name can change to [[So and So]].
== NES Horsemen ==
*On [http://www.neshorsemen.com/ this site], [http://www.neshorsemen.com/oreview.html this page] has several references, including a variation on the "dot dot dot" quote from [[Under Construction]] and a reference to the [[Extra Real Dating Sim XR]] ("featuring the most polygonal of technoligies"). [[20X6]] is also mentioned.

== Nintendojo ==
As an April Fools prank, Nintendojo put up a [http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1143867894 fake list of characters] for the upcoming Super Smash Bros. Brawl. [[Trogdor]] is among the characters listed.

== NoSlang.com ==
The [http://www.noslang.com NoSlang.com] [http://www.noslang.com/spelling.php "commonly misspelled words"] page has a statement saying, "Since not everybody owns a copy of '[[local news#Easter Eggs|Strong Bad's Rythm  N' Grammar]],' we've tried to do our part to help by compiling a list of common internet misspellings." It also posted a "Happy Birthday Trogdor" link from January 13th through January 16th, 2006.

== Olde English ==
In their [http://oldeenglish.org/general.html General Procrastination] sketch, Razin was holding off going to battle by going on the internet and watching the new Strong Bad Email. (which really wasn't even an email, he opened up the Strong Bad bio 'toon and the email menu.)

[http://oldeenglish.org View Oldeenglish].

==OrbiTouch==
On the website for [http://www.keybowl.com/kb/index?page=benefits OrbiTouch], a new, safe way to type, they mention that you can "Type with Boxing Gloves On" in the lower right-hand side of one of their pages.

==Polas' Goodtime Retro Cafe==
In the [http://www.polas.latentmedium.com/other/commodore.html Commodore 64 "Classics"] review, [[Trogdor (song)|Trogdor]] lyrics are used as the opening paragraph for the review of the game Thantos.

==Progressive Boink==
*In [http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/christmas100/index1.html The 100 Greatest Christmas Shows] list, the Homestar Runner Decemberween toons are grouped together and ranked at #79.
*In [http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/costumes/ The 50 Worst Halloween Costumes] list, Strong Bad is among those as "Any costume that may lead to poor voice impressions".
*In [http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/videogames/kyle.html Kyle's Top 20 Video Games] list (part of the site's [http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/videogames/ 100 Favorite Video Games]), Kyle criticizes the voices of the enemies in Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee (his 9th favorite game) as sound "identical to Strong Bad".
*In [http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/hotties/jonhotties.htm Jon's Top 20 Most Beautiful Women] list (part of the site's ([http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/hotties/ 100 Most Beautiful Women: 2003]), Jon describes his #1 pick, Shakira, as being famous for "the ability to sing like both a Latina schoolgirl and Homsar in the same verse."
*The entry for [http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/ihbfd/cheese.htm Cheese] (from the cartoon series "Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends") in the [http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/ihbfd.htm Internet Hanna-Barbera Fashion Database] describes the show as being "located just down the block from Trogdor the Burninator and across the street from Juggernaut calling people b****es."

==Pure Pwnage ==
[[Image:Purepwnage_email.jpg|thumb|Jeremy from Pure Pwnage]]At the beginning of episode 10, Jeremy answers e-mails in the exact same style as Strong Bad does. The computer used says "[[Compy 386]]" in the corner.

http://www.purepwnage.com/ (WARNING: Contains language and derogatery terms!)

== PVP Online ==
[[Pan Pan]] shows up in a panda line-up on [http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20060421 pvponline.com], done by guest artist [http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ Howard Taylor].

== Real Ultimate Power ==
Parodies of [http://www.realultimatepower.net '''''Real Ultimate Power'''''] are everywhere. A fan [http://www.geocities.com/viggler/trogdor.html made one] featuring TROGDOR.

== Red vs Blue ==
*At [http://www.redvsblue.com Red vs Blue] they made a public service announcement about tattoos (It appears every 4 weeks or so in the season 1 archive). When Church suggests you get a tattoo of your favorite character from your favorite online comic (obviously referring to himself), Strong Bad's face appears on-screen instead.
*A Strong Bad and a Homestar sticker is also seen during the Red vs. Blue segment in the Halo 2 Limited Collectors Edition DVD, on the window of a door.

== RinkWorks Graffiti ==
Homestar is referenced twice on the [http://www.rinkworks.com/ RinkWorks] [http://www.rinkworks.com/graffiti graffiti pages].
*The text "[[50 emails#Homestar's attempts at DELETED|Baleted]]" can be seen [http://rinkworks.com/graffiti/index.cgi?g=12 here].
*An image of Strong Bad has been crudely pasted in to all the other crazy stuff going on [http://rinkworks.com/graffiti/index.cgi?g=14 here].

== Rocketboom ==
* On the [http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2005/03/rb_05_mar_15.html 3/15/2005] espisode, we see a clip of the [[SXSW Panel - 14 Mar 2005|March 14th SXSW Panel]] and Amanda interviewing Homestar.

*On the [http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2005/12/rb_05_dec_05.html 12/5/05] episode of the v-log [http://www.rocketboom.com/ Rocketboom], Amanda Congdon is wearing a Homestar Runner shirt.

*On the [http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2006/04/rb_06_apr_12.html 4/12/2006] episode, after Amanda reports about a human clock, she comments that she still likes her [[Strong Bad Clock]] better.

== Sam & Max Episodes ==
On the [http://www.telltalegames.com/samandmax/faq FAQ page for the new Sam & Max game,] Homestar Runner is mentioned--praised, even.

== The Schumin Web ==
The [http://www.schuminweb.com/ splash page] for November 2005 showed an image of Ben Schumin dressed up as [[The Thnikkaman]]. The same image also appears in the [http://www.schuminweb.com/schumin-web/archives/splash-page.asp Splash Page Archives].

== Shenmue II : The Gang Edition ==
In the fan-movie [http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/%7Eshenmuedojo/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14850&sid=4d196b2cc178187c5528f347a593e744 Shenmue II : The Gang Edition], when Ryo arrives at Guilin, he is distracted by a The Cheat Talking Plush Doll, which is the guardian of the village where Shenhua lives. 
Later, Ryo kicks the Plush Doll, making it complain.

== Shoot the Cliché ==
Trogdor appears as one of the clichés in this game from [http://www.anothersite.co.uk another site].
[http://www.anothersite.co.uk/news.php?artc=131& Click here] to play the game.

== Something Awful ==
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Strong Bad, Homestar, Strong Mad, The Cheat and Marzipan appear as grotesque caricatures in [http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=3714 Tub Bites vol. 2.]. The computer used in the toon appears to be a parody of the [[Compy 386]]. The first email is "[[DELETED!|Recycle Binned!]]". Homestar returns Strong Bad's ''[[Wikipedia:Tag Team Wrestling|Tag Team Wrestling]]'' game, as well as some of his "[[Crap|crappy]] catchphrases" (the one used as an example is "[[Crap#Holy Crap! and Other Exclamations|holy crap!]]"). Also, this is reprised with an obvious parody of a [[How_Do_You_Type_With_Boxing_Gloves_On%3F|"How do you type with boxing gloves on?"]]-style Strong Bad e-mail in [http://www.somethingawful.com/index.php?a=3867&p=5 Karnov Bites].
*The Easter egg is a parody of [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]], featuring calls from parodies of Strong Bad, the King of Town, Homsar, Coach Z and Strong Sad.

== South Park Studios ==
Somebody at South Park Studios is a fan, as a January 28, 2006 [http://www.southparkstudios.com/show/display_faq_search.php?section=2&id=38887&search_faq= FAQ update] contains the following:

'''Q. - How do you type with boxing gloves on?''' A. - I'm sorry, this is "Ask South Park" not "Ask StrongBad ''(sic)''."

== Stinkoman 20X6 on VGMusic.com ==
*[http://www.vgmusic.com VGMusic.com] have done a remix of some of the Stinkoman 20X6 soundtrack. However, since VGMusic doesn't allow direct linking to MIDI files, the creator has put them up on his website for download. The links can be found here:
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_levelselect.mid Level Select]
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_levelstart.mid Level Start]
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_level1.mid Level 1]
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_boss.mid Boss Theme]
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_level2.mid Level 2]
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_level8.mid Level 8]
These files were sequenced by Tyler Prevost.

== The Straight Dope ==
The StrongBadZone was submitted for [http://www.straightdope.com/columns/ Weird Earl's] on [http://www.straightdope.com/ The Straight Dope], a category featuring strange and/or awesome sites.

== Stick RPG 2 ==
On the [http://www.stickrpg2.com/news.php#1147888194 news post for May 17], there is a line that says "what are you using, a 386?", with "386" being a link to [[invisibility]].

== Strong Bad Pilots an F/A-22 Raptor ==
For a short time, Strong Bad could be seen on the Lockheed Martin [http://www.f22-raptor.com/ F/A-22 Raptor Team Web Site] [[:Image:sbf22.png|F/A-22 Raptor]].

==Suave==
[http://www.suave.net/~dave/trogdor.cgi This Suave page] is about Trogdor, Strong Bad, and The Cheat.

== Superdickery.com ==
*In a "Bizzaro letters" segment, one guy writes "Dear Strongbad: How do you type with boxing gloves on?" [http://www.superdickery.com/gabliam4-16.html]
*Also, the creator says "head a'splode" in a little blurb following [http://www.superdickery.com/other/256.html this comic cover]

== Technopets ==
On [http://technopets00.tripod.com technopets00.tripod.com], in the tpemail [http://technopets00.tripod.com/id36.html Icons], the e-mail message at the bottom says "Email me. Bad emails will be burninated, er burned"
==The-Coolest-Stuff-Ever.com==
[http://the-coolest-stuff-ever.com]This website is an obvious reference to HomestarRunner.com. The name and main page both come from the Sbemail [[credit card]], and they also have an easter egg with a fan-made, Homestar Runner Space Invaders game.
== ThinkGeek ==
[http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/cubegoodies/722a/action/2111db4/ Here] there is a picture showing plastic toys dressed up for halloween. One of the toys is dressed up as Strong Bad (or, as they call him, "Strong Bob").

== Uncyclopedia==
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*On the ever-popular factually-inaccurate encyclopedia [http://uncyclopedia.org Uncyclopedia], the VfD (vote for deletion) template reads "Baleeted! This article is total crap. Please VFD."
*The template for articles that contain too much information reads: "This article contains way too much information. Absorbing all of it may cause one's head to asplode. You can help Uncyclopedia by removing stuff."
*According to [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/UnNews:Homestar_Runner%27s_face_is_seen_on_milk_cartons_worldwide. this article], Homestar Runner has gone missing. Several inside references.
* In [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Errors.png this image], one of the error messages is the "[[:Image:this is real.png|Everything is fine. Nothing is ruined.]]" error from [[50 emails]].
* One of the user awards includes [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Burninator Burninator].
*In the [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Recentnews Recentnews] template, one of the news items reads that "An astremely astonishing asperiment has show that acessive asposure to '''[[StrongBadZone|Strong Bad Zone]]''' has an astraordinarily affect on grammar."
*If you attempt to restore [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Game:Zork/File_1 File 1] of [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Game:Zork Zork], you have some [[Grumblecakes]] in your inventory. You are also wearing the [[Kerrek]]'s belt.
*Fake (or at least, mostly fake) descriptions of the characters have been entered.
**'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Homestar_Runner Homestar Runner]''': "A prolific actor (famous for playing the role of [[Matt Chapman]] in the 2000 movie "Flash Cartoonists")"
**'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Strong_Bad Strong Bad]''': One of "the most notable and prolific singer/songwriters of the past decade".
**'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Coach_Z Coach Z]''': "An athletic genius" and "a prolific writer and rapper".
**'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Pom_Pom Pom Pom]''': "A large, balloon-like alien from the planet Inflatrosis".
**'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Trogdor_the_Burninator Trogdor]''': "The son of the Friendly Giant and Puff, The Magic Dragon".
*[[homsar]] has been "sporked" from this Wiki (see [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Homsar here]). There is also an article on the [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Tandy_400 Tandy 400], as well as one on [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Homestar_Runner_Wiki this Wiki].
*[[50K Racewalker|50K RaceWalker]] is listed as the 43rd [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Worst_100_Computer_Games_of_All_Time worst computer game of all time].
*There are [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/You_have_two_cows/25#Category_.CF.80:_The_World_Wide_CoWeb 5 Homestar Runner variations] of the phrase "[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/You_have_two_cows You have two cows]".
*The start of [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Game:Game_Online Game Online] is a direct rip-off of the start of [[Thy Dungeonman]].
*Two of the choices for [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Monster the monster template] are "a [[The Yello Dello|Yello Dello]]", "a cavalry of [[Dongrel|dongrel]]s" and "a [[Bear holding a Shark|bear holding a shark]]".
*Two of the choices on the [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Random/killed random "killed by" template] are "[[Trogdor|burninated]]" and "[[50 emails#Homestar's attempts at DELETED|BALEETED!]]"
*The page on [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Nowhere Nowhere] starts with the [[Strong Bad's Computer Malfunctioning#Flagrant System Error|Flagrant System Error]] message.
*The [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Beowulf.jpg Beowulf image] has Strong Bad (with [[Ab-Abber 2000|abs]], a [[portrait|key-sword-tar]], and a [[Horned Helmet|horned helmet]]) and The Cheat (again, with a horned helmet) teaming up to fight Trogdor.

== Urban Dictionary ==
On July 1st, 2005, the main page "word of the day" on Urban Dictionary was biz cas fri. (It is misspelled as "bis cas fri.") [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bis+cas+fri&defid=801385]

Various other phrases and words are defined on the site (with varying degrees of accuracy in spelling and content) such as [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Teen+Girl+Squad Teen Girl Squad], [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Strong+Bad Strong Bad], [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homestar+runner Homestar Runner], [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fhgwhgads fhqwhgads], and [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Somebody+get+this+freaking+duck+away+from+me "Somebody get this freakin' duck away from me!"].

== Variousimmers ==
On [http://www.variousimmers.net this site] dedicated to modding [[Wikipedia:The Sims 2|The Sims 2]], two of the objects are a [[Painting of a guy with a big knife]] ([http://www.variousimmers.net/vsimforum/showthread.php?t=518 here]), and a Strong Bad [[monument]] ([http://www.variousimmers.net/vsimforum/showthread.php?t=1568 here]).

== VG Mix ==
[http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=615 Here] there is a remix of the first racing tune from Rad Racer (which is also Stinkoman's theme). The title references to [[japanese cartoon]] and the song itself contains quotes from said e-mail.

== Wikipedia's April Fool's Day Article 2005 ==
Homestar in his Daisy Dukes was eventually added to the somewhat lengthy Wikipedia April Fool's Day 2005 article detailing a hostile takeover of Wikipedia by Encyclopedia Britannica. He was part of Wikipedia's "[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&oldid=11827614#New_corporate_structure new corporate structure]" as the Minister of Long Pants. He was then pictured lower on the page in the "[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&oldid=11828885#Immediate_aftermath Immediate Aftermath]" section, then moved to the "[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&oldid=11833150#Related_Information Related Information]" section, then finally [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&oldid=11833471 dropped] altogether. The page as it exists now can be found [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:April_1%2C_2005/2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia here], and the edit history for the page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&action=history here]. Strong Bad was also named Minister of Deleting email, and is found directly under Homestar's listing.

== Youtube ==

While [http://youtube.com YouTube] was down for maintenance on August 17 2006, pictures of the youtube offices were posted on the youtube homepage. Two of them showed a Kick The Cheat doll. [[:Image:Cheattube1.jpg|photo 1]], [[:Image:Cheattube2.jpg|photo 2]].

== ytmnd ==
Many Homestar Runner-related [http://ytmnd.com You're The Man Now, Dog] pages have been [http://ytmnd.com/list/?search=homestar created], such as [http://hatesomuch.ytmnd.com/ this one], which involves the [[Cheat Commandos]], [http://homestarspin.ytmnd.com/ this one], which includes a scene from [[dangeresque 3]], [http://ytmnd.com/list/?search=freakin+duck these], which all reference [[Main Page 13]], and [http://mahmoudahmadinejad.ytmnd.com/ this one] which capitalizes on the song [[Everybody to the Limit]], involving [[Fhqwhgads]].

==Zingtech==
The [http://www.zingtech.com/features/painting/ paintings] section of the website features an acrylic painting entitled [[Painting of a guy with a big knife|"Guy With a Big Knife"]].

{{Template:sightingslist}}
[[Category:Sightings]]

Talk:Strongest Man in the World

ComputerBox — Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:27:34 GMT

ComputerBox: /* hacky sack vs footbag */

== 10 years! ==

Nice toon. I added this to the filmography of mr. bland and señor's charecter pages. I'm glad they re-did the old book. and there is another thing that I saw, when señor gets crushed, it says "sbloncheked" or what ever sb's candy bar was.
[[User:Cessna Man!|Cessna Man!]] 23:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
:I really liked this toon. It really captures the series' appeal. Who's doing the transcript for this, by the way? I hope they get done soon. We should put up pictures of Senor, Mr. Bland, etc.'s new forms on their pages. And also, Senor's voice doesn't sound like Matt's; think it could've been done by someone else?-[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 00:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:I'm almost certain that Mr. Bland was voiced by Mike. Anyone know for sure? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 01:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Plain ol' Matt's voice. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I added all the pictures, so that's done. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Not on main page? ==

Does anyone else not see this on the Main Pages? Should this be included as a Fun Fact of some kind?
:I see it there. Maybe clear your cache? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Introduction ==

The intro says that Homestar enters the contest yet again. This seems a little misleading, as the toon is a modernization, not a sequel, as the intro could imply.

:Looks like that's been changed {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Everybody Loves The Homestar Runner ==

doesnt he say "Everybody loves THE me" not "loves a'me"? that would make more sense to me. --([[User:Superplough|superplough]] not logged in) [[User:132.181.7.1|132.181.7.1]] 02:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:He does say "the me." You can go ahead and change that. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Mega Man Introductions? ==

I think that Mr. Bland, Señor, and The Robot's introductions may be references to games from the [[Wikipedia:Mega_Man_(series)|Mega Man series]], in which the bosses are introduced with a snazzy background, a pose, and a sound effect before you begin their levels. Or, is this a more general reference? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:07, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:The opening to The New Leave it to Beaver Show introduced the cast in a similar fashion if I remember correctly. Can't find any substantiating images though. Does it have to be a reference? Maybe it's just a visually interesting way to introduce characters. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 02:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Slo-Mo Action ==

Currently, the article page says that Homestar's slo-mo kicking of The Cheat is a reference to Super Mario Strikers. I think that it's actually a reference to The Matrix.

Hmmm... I dont think its necessarily a Matrix reference...its just in slow motion. the camera doesnt rotate around Homestar like the famous "bullet time" effect usually does. To me it just looks like a bicycle kick.
- [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 02:49, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, you're probably right. But I don't think TBC would make a reference to Super Mario Strikers. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 03:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

TBC have mentioned in an Interview (can't remember which one) that they are fans of Nintendo games, it is possible that they would reference Super Mario Striker, In SMS if a player passes the ball to a teammate in front of the Goal and the recieving teammate holds down the shoot button, the game will go into slow motion and the reciving teammate will do one of many different styles of Kicks,The most popular one Being the exact same move that Homestar did on Teh C. Also regarding the fact that it may be actually a reference to The Matrix, I recall no such move being used in any of the Matrix movies, [[User:Dctcool|Dctcool]]

It actually reminded me most of Shaolin Soccer... but that could be because I just watched it today.
:It reminds me of a lot of martial arts movies, but not one in particular that springs to mind.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Does anyone have a video of that specific kick from Super Mario Strikers? {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 14:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

==I still alive?==
I think Senor says "I see the light!" Instead of "I still alive"! I see the light is much funnier. The Chaps would go for I See The Light!-Me
: I hear "I still alive," funny or not. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:I originally thought it was "i see the light", but i think "I still alive" makes more sense with the way he waves his hand up through the grapes. And his bad grammar does fit with hes dialect. -[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 02:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
: I was just about to add a discussion on this line. I hear, "I ''feel'' alive!" His accent is a little hard to decipher, so I don't see this ending well. Prepare for weeks of arguing...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::FWIW, the first time I heard it I heard "I steel alive!" and it was hilarious. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I heard "I steel alive" [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[[Media:Alive.ogg|The first quote in question]]--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I heard "I see de light!" {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 03:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::It is clearly "I steel alive" {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
After watching it a few timew I thought that it was I see de light [[User:Smallowman|Smallowman]] 04:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::I hear "I still alive!", too.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:56, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"I still alive!" —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== All right, you crap-for-brains ==

What is it that the Grape Fairie is saying in his first line. I can't tell what it is, but it doesn't sound anything like "stupid" to me. Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:My first guess is "sorry brains", but I'm not sure enough to change the transcript.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Perhaps "slowest brains"? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:: ive just listeend to it a bunch of times and im pretty sure its just one syllable. kinda sounds like "All right you slows brains". Im not really hearing the 2 sylables of slowest and not the "ee" sound of sorry. But yea definatly not "stupid brains" -[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 03:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[[Media:Listenup.ogg|The second quote in question]]--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::sounds like: " i'm ready, so you'se brains listen up smart " possibly calling them brains in conjunction with listen up smart. {{User:Csours/sig}} 03:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Do you have headphones or speakers, Csours? I'm curious. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Ohhh yeah, "slows brains" kind of works! I was looking for something that rhymes/sounds like "stoes brains," and I think that's it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::speakers. i know headphones are better, i just havent got any yet. also i put it on loop on my sound editor and listened to it like 100 times.{{User:Csours/sig}} 14:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Unplugged? ==

The first fun fact credits the show MTV Unplugged with the creation of the term unplugged. I think (and am researching) that the term predates the show. [[User:Mila|Mila]] 03:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:"Unplugged" dates back to the beginnings of elictricity. But as a description of music played without extra amplification, MTV gets the credit. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

The unplugged fact is credited both to MTV and Eric Clapton in different sections, which is kind of contradicting itself. One or the other should be taken out.
===Teh Proof===
Quotes from the Oxford English dictionary:
*New York Times, 21 April 1957
*:The return of the unplugged guitar gets another boost from George Van Eps, who was supplying rhythmic chords to jazz groups long before voltage came into fashion.
*Washington Post, 26 December 1986
*:Nils Lofgren unplugged is still Nils Lofgren the musician... Lofgren will give a rare acoustic concert at the Bayou tomorrow.
*Toronto Star, 6 October 1989
*:The simple, six-string folk rhythms of several songs here..owe some of their sincere appeal to the unplugged colors of Tracy Chapman's music.
MTV Unplugged first aired on 26 November, 1989. Lexicography saves the day again! --[[User:60.228.144.21|60.228.144.21]] 08:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:Nice catch... I've reworded the fact to say that MTV popularised it, but didn't coin it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Reference ==

I recently removed these RWRs from the page:

*Homestar's slow-motion move (a Pele kick) seems similar to a "Slo-mo Cross Shot" from [[Wikipedia:Super_Mario_Strikers|Super Mario Strikers]].
**It could also be a reference to the "Bullet Time" sequences in [[Wikipedia:The_Matrix|The Matrix]].
***Another possibility is they modeled it after the Sphere Shot in [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]].

This seems to me to be the very definition of TTATOT. I'd be glad to entertain discussion to help settle what Homestar's move ''actually'' refers to; however, I kind of suspect it's actually just a generic fighting move and not a reference at all. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:Heh, I agree. But now that you mention the Sphere Shot...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 04:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I propose that it is a reference to Shaolin Soccer. Though, actually, like many of the most reasonable people here, I doubt it's a direct reference to -anything-. Still, that kind of manuever is done at least once, if not a few times in Shaolin Soccer, in slo-mo and everything.

It's possible that it references all 3 franchises (except the Matrix as there is no such move in any Matrix movies)

==hacky sack vs footbag==

in the transcript, it says that homestar kicks the cheat around like a hacky sack. this is a brand name. footbag is the generic term.{{User:Csours/sig}} 03:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
: I never play with hackysacks or footbags, but I don't know anyone who would know what you mean if you say footbag [[User:Inverse Tiger|Inverse Tiger]] 04:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I've never heard the word "footbag", either. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Ditto--I've heard them called hacky sacks for 20 years (or thereabouts), but I've never heard footbags. It may be a brand name, but it's pretty much been adopted as a generic term (like with Levis or Kleenex).--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I've never heard of a footbag ''or'' a hacky sack. Does that mean I'm stupid? [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 12:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I've never heard Levis used as a generic term... --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 15:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Page Title ==

Is "The Homestar Runner Enters the Longest Page Title on the Website Contest!" actually the longest page title on the website? [[User:!!|!!]]

: [[User talk:William | Shall we find out?]] [[User:William|William]] 04:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I did my own search by looking up "Page title" on the wiki's search bar and looking through each selection. Turns out this toon doesn't win. See the fun facts for the true winner. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 05:30, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Wretched Simmons Outfit ==

Homestar's spandex workout uniform is from the Lady Fan E-mail.
:Yep, that's already mentioned there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Enough with the golbol! ==

Alright already! I see that it's captioned as GOLBOL in the Easter egg. I can accept that many, if not all, characters pronounce it "golbol". But, for the love of all that is humane, can we PLEASE use "gold bowl" or "trophy" when we are describing it? Please, oh please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Since you asked so nicely... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:: Actually, in the 'toon version, it's never once referred to as a "trophy" or "gold bowl", and only once as just simply a "bowl". Why not call it "Golbol"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Because it sounds ridiculous...? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::[[Suudsu]]. [[The Denzel]]. [[Lord Quackingstick]]. We don't describe these every time they appear after being named, but they have ridiculous names as well. This is a site about silly cartoon animal people. Keep your sense of humor about you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::From another edit just made on another page, I'm reminded of another such case: [[The Geddup Noise]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I wonder, though, if in the Fun Facts the word golbol would be better placed in quotes, since it's not a real word?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Jay, those are established more solidly than this. The spelling "golbol" is solely from an egg which in all likelihood is just a joke in itself on the characters' pronunciation. As Dorian put in an edit summary, it makes it look like we're a bunch of turkeys. This is a knowledge base, not a poultry farm. We should use an odd spelling when it's needed, but not when it doesn't add to meaning. Suudzu - how else would you spell it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::We had a bit of conversation over this, and it was determined that I would transcribe it as "Golbol". Sorry if there's been any confusion. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 12:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Strongest Man in the World Poster ==

If I am not mistaken, it features the "Big Beefy Arm" from Trogdor fame.
:I think it's just a generic beefy arm. Y'know, coz it's a strength contest and all. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:: I thought it looked like the same beefy arms from [[Dragon]], too. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== LotR reference? ==

It's a stretch, but I thought I'd bring it up here. When Pom Pom has the trophy at the end, Homestar says he should give it to him for his birthday, which of course was today. This is like when Gollum's friend got the Ring and Gollum demanded it for his birthday, which was that day. Of course Homestar didn't kill Pom Pom... but could they be related? I don't feel sure enough about it to add it without some agreement [[User:Inverse Tiger|Inverse Tiger]] 04:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No offense, but is there a single line in all of H*R which isn't a reference, by this standard? Anonymous has spoken. [[User:89.1.17.101|89.1.17.101]] 04:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::OK, anonymous, there's no need to be insistent. But I do think you're right that this reference is a stretch. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:D-d-definitely, definitely a stretch [[User:Jetpac|Jetpac]] 05:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Extra Sauce? ==

I think that Homestar acutally says "Extra Sauce" instead of exercise.
:I heard Extracise
:: Me too, though I thought of it as "Extrasize". --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Correction--the first incident, it sounds like "extra size", the second it sounds like he says "pour on that extra sauce".--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I'll second that.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::sounds like extro-sauze to me, but it could easily be both. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pure Pwnage Reference ==

Okay, this is DEFINITELY a reference, stop deleting it. I will make my case clear here.

Pure Pwnage is a somewhat popular internet-show. They did an episode where the main character sat at a desk with a Compy 386 and answered emails EXACTLY like Strong Bad does. Naturally, someone pointed this out to TBC and they threw him a bone by making this reference:
When Strong Bad writes to Homestar telling him he can achieve anything and then stops and says "you're a butt", this is a reference to the episode of Pure Pwnage (which references Strong Bad Emails) where Jeremy answers emails like Strong Bad and he tells someone who professes to 'like boys more than girls' that he should stay true to who he is and then erases it and writes "u r a fag".
Clearly these are the exact same principle. Starting out telling someone that they can 'acheve anything' and 'stay true to who you are' and then saying to them "you're a butt" or "u r a fag" is a TOTAL DIRECT reference. They cant use the word "fag" on Homestar Runner, and Strong Bad wouldnt write "u r" They abbreviated the best they could.
:Except that kind of joke is as old as the hills.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Character ''x'' does something absurdly out of character, realises what s/he's doing, stops, and reverts back to in character. This isn't exactly a new formula. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, sorry, agree with the people above me. Not a reference. It's just Strong Bad signing 50 autographs in a row without looking up, then realizing he's signing one for Homestar.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Agreed. This is not worth getting on a soapbox over. It's an old joke. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Down Goes Bland ==

Someone is out to take out all of my references that are blazingly clear here, so i'm gonna write another discussion one.
"Down goes Bland" is a reference to Howard Cosell's ringside calling of the Foreman Vs Frazier fight where when George Foreman won, Howard Cosell repeatedly shouted "Down goes Frazier!"
C'mon, its a competition, one of them goes down and they yell "Down Goes <Last Name>"
What more do you want Phlip?!
:Maybe, but there are only so many ways to say that a competitor is down, after all.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Given there are over 350,000 Google results for "Down goes" and only 10,000 for "Down goes Frazier", I don't think Frazier owns this phrase. Even after allowing for the number of false positives of a shorter search string, and other refereneces to Frazier's fight, 35x the results is a lot. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::When are you going to refine a search and come up with MORE results? Your logic is perplexing to say the least. I have seen a lot more obscure things go up on this wiki. --Your Fuzzy God
::::I'm saying that if "Down goes" was actually a reference to Frazier, then a reasonable portion of the results for "Down goes" would also be results for "Down goes Frazier". As it is, less than 4% are. So "Down goes Frazier" cannot be considered the only possible source for the phrase, and once that is considered we have [[TTATOT]]. It's not a question of obscurity, it's a question of "How do we know it's this, and not something else?". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:21, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:When Homestar says "Watch your language" to Pom Pom it's a direct reference to The Lion King when Timon says that to Pumbaa!!!11111one OMG FASCISM!! ... seriously, no. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Golbol Easter Egg ==

The section about the Easter Egg says that the logo in the background of the golbol belongs to the New York Yankees.

In fact, it belongs to the New York Mets. (Mookie Wilson played for the Mets) {{unsigned|68.203.142.206|12:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)}}

:Thanks for point this out, but a hint for next time – if you see a clear mistake in the article, you don't need to tell us about it, just go in and fix it... taking it to the talk page is generally only necessary if you're not sure, or others don't agree. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

::That may all be well and good, but is it more than a coincidence that this toon came out just after the "Yankees finish historic sweep of Red Sox"? It would seem that would be rewarded with a gold bowl.

== hewwo ==

he doesn't normally mispronounce l's

==Stong Bad vs. Strond Bad==
When I looked at the autograph egg, Strong Bad's inscription is signed "Strond Ba... wait a sec" instead of "Stong" as is mentioned in the transcript. It's possible that this will change randomly, I suppose, although I checked it a couple of times (in different windows) and it remains "Strond". I hesitate to change it, though, because TBC have done random stuff before, so maybe someone else can see what they get. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 14:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Mr. Shmallow (toon)

ComputerBox — Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:16:25 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Inside References */ It makes more sense to have the link in the first appearance rather than the second.

{{toonnav|Shorts|mrshmallow|Ballad of The Sneak|Cheat Commandos (toon)}}
[[Image:Mr Shmallow makes good.png|thumb|right|220px|"Look Lively. '''''LOOK LIVELY!!!'''''"]]

{{abouttoon}} {{forcharacter|Mr. Shmallow}}

An [[Old-Timey]] marshmallow commercial for [[Fluffy Puff Air-Puffed Sugar Delights]] gives The Homestar Runner nightmares.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Mr. Shmallow]], {{Film|The Sad Kids}}, [[Mr. Bossman]], [[The Moon]], {{Film|The Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Sickly Sam}} (Easter egg), {{Film|The Sneak}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[The Moon]], [[The Old Movie Reel Room]]

'''Date:''' August 4, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 1:03

'''Page Title:''' Mr. Shmallow makes good!

== Transcript ==
''{The screen displays the words "A Filmed Commercial Advertisement". Then Mr. Shmallow appears on the screen.}''

'''MR. SHMALLOW:''' Greetings, fallows. I'm Mr. Shmallow. ''{his name appears on the screen}''

''{Mr. Shmallow jumps to the next scene-he peeps in from the left as a bunch of candies appear on a table. The candies are in containers labeled Dandied Sugar, Sweet Brand Meats, Choco-Lumps, and Delicious "Bag"}''

Have you grown loath of ordinary confections?

''{cuts to a shack in the arctic labeled "Sugah Shak", with Mr. Shmallow peeping in from the right}''

Has the Sugah Shak left you out in the cold?

''{the walls of the shack collapse outwards,The Sad Kids are there. The shack roof falls on them}''

''{we see a man in clad in dress shirt, dress pants and tie smoking a pipe and carrying a briefcase next to a woman dressed in a '50s style party dress. Both are wearing jetpacks and hover before a curtain with a star-burst pattern evocative of the 1950s. The words "Look Lively" appear in front of them}''

Look lively at today's go-get-em lifestyle with Fluffy Puffs Air-Puffed Sugar Delights!

''{The Fluffy Puff box is displayed, then cut to a pile of sugar being "puffed" by a bellows into a marshmallow shape.}''

Each delight is hand puffed with a blend of only the finest airs.

''{A cartoon cloud wearing a medal labeled "O2" enters from the upper right while a turkey and a spear of broccoli are "puffed" by the bellows into marshmallow shapes.}''

Air puffing is surely the future of eating delicious foodstuffs.

''{cut to a fat, rich-looking man at a desk smiling and snapping his suspenders}''

Mr. Bossman wouldn't settle for much less!

''{cut to marshmallow roasting over a fire}''

Add open flames to create a flavor taste that will send you to the moon!

''{Mr. Shmallow is shown in a glass ship, he flies up to the moon, which eats him}''

'''THE MOON:''' Air-puffed sugar delights.

'''MR. SHMALLOW:''' ''{sweating}'' That's right, the moon. ''{his forelock swings down and cleans off his glasses, which have fogged up}'' Enjoy Fluffy Puffs Air-Puffed Sugar Delights. Hand-puffed at the factory in Neuconsin.

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{singing}'' Fluffy Puffs air-puffed sugar delights, hand-puffed at the factory in Neuconsin! ''{stops singing} {quickly, sotto voce} '' Fluffy Puffs Air-Puffed Sugar Delights. Hand-puffed at the factory in Neuconsin.

''{The camera pulls back to reveal The Homestar Runner watching the commercial.}''

'''MR. SHMALLOW:''' Look lively. ''{suddenly louder, darting toward the camera}'' Look lively! ''{The Homestar Runner jumps and Mr. Shmallow tip-toes off the screen to the left with Homsar's walking noise}''

'''THE HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That monster's gonna give me nightmares.

''{Cut back to a closeup of the Fluffy Puffs Air-Puffed Sugar Delights box; the cartoon ends.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*At the end, click on "Air-Puffed Sugar Delights" to see a short scene featuring Sickly Sam.
:''{Cut to Sickly Sam standing next to a bag of Delicious "Bag".}''
:'''SICKLY SAM:''' This empty bag of Delicious "Bag" will make a fine sock for the colder of my two feet.
:''{Sickly Sam shakes his left foot, then begins reaching for the bag. The Sneak runs up and rips the bag to shreds, then runs away}''
:'''SICKLY SAM:''' Well, folks, you know what that means. ''{disappears in a puff of smoke}''

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
* A "Sugar Shack" is a structure where maple sap is converted into maple syrup. The term appears in popular songs to refer to a cheap residence of a couple in love.
* "O2" is the chemical formula for [[Wikipedia:Oxygen|molecular dioxygen]], which comprises about twenty-one percent (by volume) of the Earth's atmosphere.

===Trivia===
* The sound effect used for the hovering jet packs and the "tip-toeing" Mr. Shmallow is the same one used when [[Homsar]] walks.
* The noise made when the various food items are hand puffed is the same noise Sickly Sam makes when he disappears in a puff of smoke.
* The inbox and outbox on Mr. Bossman's desk read "Fired" and "To Be Fired." The "Fired" stack is larger.

===Inside References===
*This cartoon is roughly equivalent to [[Meet Marshie]] where [[Marshie]] talks about how [[Fluffy Puff Marshmallows]] are made and what you can do with them. It even includes a comment from The Homestar Runner at the end, echoing [[Homestar Runner|Homestar's]] appearance at the end of Meet Marshie.
*Sickly Sam says, "Well folks, you know what that means," which may be a reference to The Homestar Runner's saying of, "Well folks, you know what that means. Now I'll do a dance."
*The page title "Mr. Shmallow makes good!" and the summary in the Toons Menu reading "He's no apothecary" are both references to the Easter egg in the email [[2 emails]], in which [[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] said variations of these two things.

===Fast Forward===
*The [[Delicious "Bag"]] later appears in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].

== External Links ==
*[[HR:mrshmallow.html|watch "Mr. Shmallow"]]
*[[HR:mrshmallow.swf|view the Flash file for "Mr. Shmallow"]]
[[Category:Shorts]]
[[Category:Old-Timey]]
[[Category:Fluffy Puff]]

Talk:Fat Bluebird

ComputerBox — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:23:54 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Orders! */

Isn't it ironic that this character isn't actually even on the [[Everybody Everybody]] poster? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:53, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Methinks Mike and Matt were being a bit sarcastic themselves. I think this character was one about nobody knows about until TBC talked about them on the commentary. I'm also sure that we'd add the Fat Bluebird ourselves if it appeared on the Everybody Everybody poster. [[User:PurpleKoopa|PurpleKoopa]] 04:58, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

== Orders! ==

Hey, do you think that TBC will notice that we put this page up and start ordering us around in the DVD commentaries? "Put THIS on the wiki!" ...Or do you think they'd rather just sign up and start putting pages up themselves?
Maybe they already have accounts. -[[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]

Talk:Fat Bluebird

ComputerBox — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:23:38 GMT

ComputerBox: Orders!

Arrow'd Guy

ComputerBox — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 02:44:17 GMT

ComputerBox:

[[Image:cerebellumd.png|thumb|right|250px|The Giant Brain Mech CEREBELLUMs Cheerleader]]

'''Arrow'd Guy''' is the tormentor of the members of the [[Teen Girl Squad]]. His many professions include an archer (who shoots arrows from his mouth), a truck driver, owner of a Pan-Asian Cuisine stand, a brain mech pilot, ship captain, two judges (at the same time) and a play critic. Oddly, the character's name is never given in the actual cartoons, and he is called "Man With The Huge Mouth" in many circles. However, he is identified as the Arrow'd Guy on the [[Store]]'s caption for the [[Everybody Everybody Poster]].

==Appearances==
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1|Issue 1]]: In his first appearance, he ARROWED [[The Ugly One]], right after she admitted to having a crush on every boy.

*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 2|Issue 2]]: He doesn't actually kill one of the members, but runs over [[So and So]]'s new boyfriend, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#No I In Team Boy|No I In Team Boy]], with a CHILDREN truck.

*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3|Issue 3]]: He sells [[The Ugly One]] three spring rolls loaded with MSG, destroying her "stomach lining."

*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4|Issue 4]]: After [[Cheerleader]] gets denied by [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Quarterback|Quarterback]], who tells her to get some brains, he CEREBELLUMs her with a [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Giant Brain Mech|giant brain mech]].

*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5|Issue 5]]: He's helming a sailboat, the ''S.S. Inevitable'', that SAILING MISHAPs [[Cheerleader]] in half.

*[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]: He doesn't kill anyone, but is two out of three judges when the girls jump into [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Gift Exchange Lion|the lion's]] mouth. [[The Ugly One]] is TWO'D and [[Cheerleader]] gets '3 noses?'.

*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|Issue 7]]: The entire Squad falls into his mouth as they reminisce their pre-K days.

*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|Issue 8]]: Although he does not explicitly appear, [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]] (So and So's stepmom), who seems to be the Arrow'd Guy, yells at the girls and pours "Ranch Dress" on The Ugly One (STEP-MOMMED!!!).

*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|Issue 9]]: Throws a spear at [[So and So]], killing her and injuring the animated [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Port-O-John|Port-O-John]] behind her. (NOT VERY GOOD REVIEWED!)

*[[404'd|404 page]]: He "404s" [[The Ugly One]]. It's the same as the Issue #1 attack except The Ugly One says "OW! my browser!", and "ARROWED!!!" is missing.

*[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]'s [[HomestarRunner.com_PAY_PLUS%21#Teen_Girl_Squad_Sample|Teen Girl Squad Sample]], he appeared as a fairy and GOOD DRAWINGED [[The Wheelchair]].

*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|Issue 10]]: He tries to ARROWED II The Ugly One, but is stopped by Strong Bad, who then redraws the scene.

== Trivia ==
*The first issue the Arrow'd guy didn't appear in was [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]].
*He's called the "Arrow'd" guy even though in TGS 1 it was spelled "ARROWED", with the E.

== Arrow'd Guy at Work ==

<gallery>
Image:arrowed.png|<center>ARROWED!!!</center>
Image:childrend.png|<center>CHILDREN!</center>
Image:MSGd.png|<center>MSG'D!!</center>
Image:cerebellumd.png|<center>CEREBELLUM'D!!</center>
Image:sailingmishap.png|<center>SAiLiNG MiSHAP!!</center>
Image:twod.png|<center>TWO'D!!</center>
Image:swallowed.png|<center>SWALLOWED!!</center>
Image:MrsSASE.png|<center>STEP-MOMMED!!</center>
Image:criticd.png|<center>NOT VERY GOOD REViEWED!!</center>
Image:good_drawinged.png|<center>GOOD DRAWiNGED!!</center>
Image:Arrowed II.PNG|<center>ARROWED II!!</center>
Image:404d.png|<center>404'D!!</center>
</gallery>

==Filmography==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[comic]]
*[[:Category:Arrow'd Guy Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

{{Teen Girl Squad}}

[[Category: Teen Girl Squad Characters|Arrow'd Guy]]

Bear Holding a Shark

ComputerBox — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 01:22:35 GMT

ComputerBox:

[[Image:bearholdingshark.png|thumb|Bear holding a shark.]]
[[Image:Sbemail145.PNG|thumb|A glimpse of the monsterman?]]
The '''[[Bears|Bear]] holding a [[Fish|Shark]]''' is a cardboard cut-out of a bear holding a shark, lurking [[Behind the Fence|behind the fence]] of [[Strong Badia]]. It is Strong Badia's "security countermeasure", as [[Strong Bad]] puts it. It scares [[The Cheat]] often, as when The Cheat touches the [[Tire]], not only does he get an electric shock, but the Bear-Shark pops up. For reasons that are never really looked into, The Cheat seems to have a phobia of bears holding sharks. The Bear-Shark also plays the part of "headhunters" on Strong Bad's [[Strong Bad's Mount RidesPlace USA#Riverquest Safariventure|Riverquest Safariventure]]. It is scared off by firing a starting pistol in its general direction twice. It has been featured in a documentary detailing its roots in [[Strong Bad Lore|Strong Badian lore]]. The myth/legend originated as a [[Strong Badia's Seven Elemental Spirits#A fish wearing an afro wig and A British distance runner|British distance runner holding a fish with a 'fro wig]], and through years of bad storytelling and the telephone game, evolved into the Bear-Shark we know today. Apparently, [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] and his "dog" [[Pom Pom]] were walking in the woods when they saw (and caught footage of) the "very scary monsterman" (who suspiciously had white feet with blue soles). [[Strong Sad]] did not believe these [[myths & legends|mysterious myths & legendary legends]] very much, and dismissed the Bear-Shark as either a weather balloon or a foreign exchange student.

== Appearances ==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[date]]
*Email [[theme park]]
*[[Senorial Day]]
*Email [[myths & legends]]

[[Category:Inside Jokes]][[Category:Items]][[Category:Pseudocharacters]][[Category:Strong Badia]][[Category:Animals]]

Talk:Blender

ComputerBox — Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:45:02 GMT

ComputerBox: /* Monochrome vs. Greyscale */

Do we really need this page? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 14:02, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:It was seen twice and mentioned once. It's not close to be a main character, but it's not another Smoke Detector. Charactes have interacted with it. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:15, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Eh, don't deltete. The multiple appearances is what takes the cake. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 14:56, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::I am just saying, I don't think that they were talking about the same blender. I could live with this staying, but I think that this should be merged with [[Items]]. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:16, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)

And other appearance: on the box for The Show's home game in [[geddup noise]]. This makes three full appearances. Seems to be fairly integral to The Show by now. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:The blender rules. We're keeping it. The wiki has enough space. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:30, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Monochrome vs. Greyscale ==

There's a debate going on right now in a revert war regarding the terminology "Monochrome" vs. "Greyscale/Greenscale/Amberscale". Here's how I always understood it, coming from an extensive computer background:

* Technically, the term "monochrome" means single-color. Pure monochrome displays are 1-bit, and thus one color (usually white, green or amber).
* However: The term has also been expanded to include displays that can show a gradient of different levels of the same color.
**Technically, the correct term for that is "greyscale", and "greenscale/amberscale" can also apply, though "greyscale" is commonly accepted for other colors as well.
**A more commonly used term to refer to display technology as a whole is "black-and-white" - the layman's term for "monochrome" and "greyscale". This is especially true of TVs - black-and-white TVs or monitors, compared to color monitors.

So, which terminology is correct when applied to the original Gameboy? I have heard "monochrome Gameboy", "black-and-white Gameboy" and "Greyscale Gameboy", and they're all acceptable. The one that seems to be used the most often is "black-and-white Gameboy", as that most easily distinguishes it from the Gameboy Color. It is not necessary to account for the actual background color of the screen or the greenish tint that the otherwise grey pixels have - people know what you mean when you say "black-and-white". (Not full-color.)

Just a little help from a computer geek. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:56, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

*What about Game Boy Pocket? That is also black-and-white. I always just call it the "original Game Boy". -[[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]

User:ComputerBox

ComputerBox — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 19:47:55 GMT

ComputerBox:

== Welcome to my user page: it's dot com! ==
So, this is my user page. Doesn't have a whole lot to offer.

== DS Friend Codes ==

If you play DS games online, you might want to know my friend codes. Here they are:

:Mario Kart DS: 073075-419835
:Metroid Prime Hunters: 0687-8970-8062

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Talk:Main Page

ComputerBox — Mon, 03 Jul 2006 14:29:50 GMT

ComputerBox: /* UPDATE TODAY! */

{{Main Page Talk}}

<div style="border:3px solid #fc0;padding:.5em 1em 1em 1em;" class="IntroPageBox">
==Lack of updates==
For anybody wondering why there have been no updates for a while: The bottom line is, we don't know. There is a thread on the forums where people are ''calmly and rationally'' discussing the possibilities. [[Forum:8813|Here is the link]]. Any further discussion on Wiki Talk pages may be removed. Thank you for your patience. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC)</div>
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==Wiki title==

I think we should move this page to [[Homestar Runner Wiki]] (click the link to see what it could look like). That way, it will show the actual title of the wiki instead of boring ol' "Main Page" (which of course would be left as a redirect). The [[MW:|MediaWiki]] front page is an excellent example of how it could be. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:24, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:I really like the idea. It shows exactly who we are upon entering. If I was in charge, I'd've done it from th' start. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::I also support the idea, maybe we should make Main Page a dis. page, though, for [[Main Pages]] and Homestar Runner Wiki. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:Support. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 01:33, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:::Rogue Leader: Main Page and Talk:Main Page would have to redirect to the respective Homestar Runner Wiki pages, due to the amount of links to them, both internal and external. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:Complete Support: The Main Page talks about '''The Homestar Runner Wiki''' not '''Main Page''' {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 01:44, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

::::It's dot com: That can be accomplished simply by changing the text of [[MediaWiki:Mainpage]] from "Main Page" to "Homestar Runner Wiki". {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 01:56, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:::::Heh. Yes, I know. :) I wanted people to be able to see a preview without [[HRWiki:Standards#Be_bold.2C_but_know_when_not_to_be|being too drastic]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:I like your idea, Dot com. I'm surprised nobody ever thought of this before. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 02:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:I support leaving it [[Main Page]]. [http://www.google.com/search?&q=%22Main+Page%22+mediawiki Most to all MediaWiki wikis] (257,000,000 at this moment) leave the title as the default. This page is the sole exception to the "articles are in the main namespace" rule, and giving it a different title would make it seem as if this was an article about the Homestar Runner Wiki (remember, we already have an article for that at [[HRWiki:A History]]). This is the main page of the wiki, it's our cover page and our table of contents. It's not the Homestar Runner Wiki. The entire wiki is the Homestar Runner Wiki. (I also never liked it when our main page was called [[old:HomestarRunnerWiki|HomestarRunnerWiki]] way back when.) -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

::Most to all wikis use Main Page because they either don't know they can change it or don't have the access. I myself didn't know until I saw MediaWiki. If we're going to have one exception in the main namespace, shouldn't it be such that the title of the wiki can be on the front page? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:23, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

::I agree with Tom. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:Well, isn't there some sort of weird developer stuff (I know, I'm vague) that you could do to change the description at the top from "Article" to "Main Page"? I think that would solve the whole problem. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 02:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

::I agree with seriously. Although I like Its dot comes Idea.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 03:25, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

::Following with what Tom said, I completely disagree that Main Page should be changed to Homestar Runner Wiki. The front page is ''not'' the whole wiki, it's just the main page. It has links to the other pages that ''make up'' the Homestar Runner Wiki. The pratical use of a "Homestar Runner Wiki" page would be to talk about HRWiki, which would go under the HRWiki: namespace, therefore calling itself [[HRWiki:About]], which we already have. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:27, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:::Although it would be rater inconvenient. It may just be me, but that seems like to long of a title for the Main Page.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 03:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:::Lapper: I think you're splitting hairs here. The reason for the change isn't so that we have an article about the wiki itself, it's so that the words "[[Homestar Runner Wiki]]" will appear, as a title like in that link, at the top of the page all professional-like. I suppose one could make a case that a page called "Homestar Runner Wiki" is just fine for a table of contents of the wiki, and certainly "Talk:Homestar Runner Wiki" would be a good change, since the page is devoted to general discussion about wiki matters and isn't really used much to talk about the contents or format of the front page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:43, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

::::That's not what I was saying; I was saying that that would be the pratical use for such a title. I prefer the term "Main Page", although "Talk:Main Page" is somewhat misleading, as most of the time it isn't for discussion of the Main Page. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:46, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:::::It looks much better as Main Page. That might confuse some users.(Not too sure about that, but maybe.) Plus it already says Homestar Runner Wiki on it.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 03:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:I'm happy with leaving it as Main Page. Sort of a "If it ain't broke..." type mentality, but at the same time I think it looks better and is more common and descriptive as it is. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 07:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:I think we should make it the Homestar Runner Wiki way. It looks better and makes more sense. {{User:Dagger/sig}} 17:43, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:'''Support'''. I can see the arguments for both sides. The strongest argument against, I think, is that the main page is not the whole Homestar Runner Wiki, but just the entry portal. That being said, I can't see that confusing anyone or causing problems. "Homestar Runner Wiki" would look a little nicer, and it would make the purpose of this talk page more clear (it took me a long time to realize that discussions about the wiki in general were occurring here). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:59, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:I don't care too much, but I would prefer that it stay as the Main Page, for all the reasons above, and most people will already see from the logo that this is the HRWiki, and the Main Page title will complement it by saying that it's the main page. Plus, I don't want to stare at a note that I was redirected when I enter the site. '''Another Option:''' we could do what [[Wikipedia:Main Page|Wikipedia]] does, and cut out the title completely. Something inside me tells me that WP editors got into the same argument we are, and found this to be the best option to satisfy both sides. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:There would be a redirect message? If so, I agree; that would be ugly. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:57, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

::No, there would be no redirect message, assuming you don't type all the way out to "/Main Page" each time you load the site. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:58, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:It would just look weird. Plus I like the word: Main Page as the title.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 19:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:Something to point out is the fact that Wikipedia ''can't'' do this, because they already have an article about [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia|the encyclopedia itself]] in the same place where the title article would go. Most other wikis don't have this problem. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:17, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:I'm kinda in between... on one hand, it really is the Main Page and that's a descriptive title ('Homestar Runner Wiki - Homestar Runner Wiki' would look weird but maybe that can be fixed). On the other hand, 'Homestar Runner Wiki' looks a ton nicer and more welcoming. I'll say I '''support'''. It wouldn't look like an article about the Homestar Runner Wiki any more than 'Main Page' looks like an article about the Main Page on H*R. {{User:Ed smildE/signature}}

:To support, I would have to see a benefit to the change, one that is a noticeable improvement over how it is now. If it is changed as proposed, we shall still have a name that does not adequately address the page. THe only problem I've seen noted about the current title is that it is "boring" - but being an encyclopedia, this wiki should not be trying to be "exciting", rather it should be noting what is exciting about Homestar Runner. Since I see no real benefit from such a change, I must '''decline'''.

:However, I counterpropose: '''change name''' to "Homestar Runner Wiki - Main Page". This allows the page to be identified as exactly what it is, but also serve as a suitable cover for the encyclopedia. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

:I support moving it to Homestar Runner Wiki.[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

::In response to [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]], although this is indeed a "compromise", I believe that that title is rather long, not only for a URL, but for the H1 title itself. Perhaps it is an accurate description, but it is slightly wordy. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 01:25, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

:Why not move it into the HRWiki: namespace? There's no real reason why we couldn't... If the appropriate MediaWiki pages are changed, there's nothing stopping the main page from being [[HRWiki:Main Page]], or [[HRWiki:Homestar Runner Wiki]] or something like that... and it would answer the question about it ''being'' a Main Page, rather than being ''about'' a Main Page. And for those that are wondering: http://www.hrwiki.org/ would correctly load the right page, no "Redirected" message. [[Main Page]] would have to be kept as a redirect though, for people that have http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page bookmarked, or as an external link on their page. After enough time, it could concievably become a redirect to [[Main Pages]] with a disambig notice to the new main page, but that's a discussion for then, not now. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:54, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
::Phlip's idea of HRWiki:Main Page holds merit, and I would '''support''' it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:31, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
:::I would rather leave it unchanged than do that. To borrow a phrase, it is not a noticeable improvement over how it is now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:39, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
::::"HRWiki:Main Page" is a pretty good compromise, and it might even solve the talk page ambiguity problem. "HRWiki talk:Main Page" ''does'' sound like the main talk page for the Homestar Runner Wiki. If "Homestar Runner Wiki" doesn't fly, I could definitely support this one. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:41, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
:I support either leaving it as [[Main Page]] or eliminating the page title a la Wikipedia. Moving the Main Page to [[Homestar Runner Wiki]] would be a bit too drastic in my opinion. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 23:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

== Dates for updates ==

They seem to be a month too far. Homestarrunner.com was last updated in May, yet the front page claims it was updated yesterday, which was exactly one month later than it actually was.
:No... It says 5-22-06. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::(S/He means the Wiki's front page claims it was updated yesterday, Dorian. :) ) —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:32, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
:You're right, the last big update was in May. But there are several smaller updates that have been happening that are not noted on the HR.com main pages. The dates of the [[Podstar Runner]] releases and [[Store]] updates are indeed accurate. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:27, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

== Commercials ==

I really think that we should have a category for commercials. How would I go about creating one? It's not really that hard I think, but I just don't now how. Can somebody response. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 20:07, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

::You can add <nowiki>[[Category:Commercials]]</nowiki> to any page that needs it, and it's link will be red at the bottom where the rest of the categories are. You can click on the red link to type a description of the category, then continue adding <nowiki>[[Category:Commercials]]</nowiki> to any page that needs it. Hope that helps. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 20:34, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

:Well if you believe that we need a category called that, then create it, and the community will decide if we need it.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 20:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

== UPDATE TODAY! ==

Finally, there's a new update!!! Time to make a page for it at [[Weclome Back!]]. I already added it to the update page for this year. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]
:Oh, never mind. There already is one at [[Weclome Back]] without the exclamation point. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]
::Argh, spoke too soon. There isn't a page there after all. Oh well, just pick one of the above two (I think the toons page has the ! at the end) and make that page!

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