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Chupaqueso — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:45:03 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* Shiny blackness? */

== Video Game Endings ==

That video game theme sounds very familiar... Moreso even than the [[Drive-Thru Whale]] theme... Where from? What do the expoits say? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
: I think it's from [[Population: Tire]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:50, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::GAH! Yes! That's it. Thanks. Now it's obvious. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:29, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Lil Stong Buh Shirt ==

he's wearing a devil duckie t-shirt. We should have a page of all his t-shirts. Also, When the paper burns up, the ash says "bye now".
:[[Character_Variations_Other_Costumes#Youthful_Characters|There is]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Inkjet Printers ==

The printer's new ink cartridge isn't working properly yet. As evidenced by the discolouration on the @ key and the horizontal lines throughout the printout. I'm not sure if it should be remarked or not. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 12:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:Looking at the a change to the transcript saying there are white lines on the paper. They have colour in them as you'd notice by zooming in. I don't know how to revise to an earlier version of the page and I don't know to word the transcript to reflect the detail. If anyone would oblige [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 14:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== the paper as a character ==

In this email at the very least the paper should probably be on the cast list. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 13:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::I agree [[User:Booksworm|Booksworm]] 14:14, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Using that logic, then the paper should be considered a character in every single Strong Bad Email, including other things like sick day. {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}

== Cheesesteaks and Tastykakes ==

<blockquote class="lappy email" style="background-image: none">
Look, Darius, if you want me to eat a Philly cheesesteak 
instead of answering an email this week, you got it. No 
skin off my back. I'll eat a couple-a Tastykakes while I'm 
at it, too. Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta skee-dat.
</blockquote>

Could this be TBC's explanation for not updating last week? ;) {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Some parts of that sound like they came from the mouth of Homestar. Could that be the '''''real''''' reason Homestar is tangled up like that (via The Paper)? [[User:Neox|Neox]]

== Count to G ==
Could the score "G" be a reference to The Ugly One's "I can count to G!" statement in Teeny Tiny Girl Squad? Pretty obscure I admit...--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 15:12, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:[[G]] is a running gag of it's own and already in the article's fun facts. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Strong bad is... old? ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' Why do all my thirty-year-old electronics keep breaking on me?!
At time of The Paper's birth, SB was like 2-7 years old or something. Well, unless he meant the technology 30 years ago. {{User:Murkrow/sig}} 15:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Bad's parents might have bought an old or second hand printer rather than a new one.
::Remember, too, that there's other instances where we see Strong Bad represented as someone in his likely 30's. [[secret identity]], for one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Then again, he could have bought it at a garbage sale for like 15 dollars, along with the Tandy. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::I agree that the printer may already have been old before the Strongs got ahold of it. {{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 15:04, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Lightness...darkness... whaaa? ==

Did anyone else notice that a few hours ago, the Homestar easter egg was bright (i.e., it looked like a light was on in the room there), but now it's dark? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
: As the one who transcribed the toon shortly after it came out, I can't say I did. That said, the scene WAS bright in the actual scene in the email; just not the Easter egg. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::No it's always been dark. I saw it at 6 AM, Eastern time, shortly after it came out, and I remember thinking how bright Lappy was in the dark. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 18:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Sonic the Hedgehog 3 reference ==

When the island Strong Bad is standing on is sinking and he says something about killing end bosses, I think it's a reference to STH3 when, after defeating the final boss of the game, Angel Island falls from the sky and lands in the sea. There's also another game, Sonic & Knuckles, where I think the island actually floats into the sky again, again after defeating the final boss. [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 15:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:It could just as easily be a reference to the video game "Sinking Island". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:13, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

::I always thought it looked a lot like the ending to Bionic Commando, where the Captain is flyiing away from the exploding base attatched to a helicopter. --{{User:Thatkidsam/sig}} 16:28, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Reminds me of "The Island of Dr. Destructo" for the C64, where you bomb various things until plumes of water shoot up and they sink. While it starts off with boats and subs, it soon progresses to islands, an inland castle, and space stations. Yep, a big plume of water shooting out of a sinking space station. --[[User:The Archon|The Archon]]

:What is a "load bearing boss?" Wikipedia doesn't explain. [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 16:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::It appears that the article on load bearing bosses was "merged" into [[Wikipedia:Boss (video games)|Boss (video games)]], although the info cannot be found there either, so I'm guessing it was removed entirely. I removed the Wikipedia link and explained what a load bearing boss is in [[the paper#Explanations|Explanations]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:42, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::The wikipedia article on load bearing bosses has been reinstated, so I have put the link back in. There seems to be some debate on Wikipedia at the moment about whether it should have its own article or not, but it has been acknowledged that when the article was removed the information was not properly incorporated into the article on boss characters. I therefore have left the explanation of what a load bearing boss is on the hrwiki article, so that when/if something changes on wikipedia readers will still have an explaination. [[User:Schaedenfreud82|Schaedenfreud82]] 10:43, 12 June 2007

:I thought it was a reference to Street Fighter, where Ryu ends up in the middle of the ocean after beating Akuma (Note Strong Bad's white Bandana). [[User:tehpie|tehpie]] 20:19, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:It can't be a Sonic 3 (& Knuckles) reference, Angel Island is being held up by the master emerald, Robotnik stole that and the island fell into the ocean. At the end of the game your chosen character gets the emerald back (Off Robotnik as Sonic/Tails, Off Super Mecha-Sonic as Knuckles) and the island rises back into the sky as the credits are rolling. - [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 00:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:I think it's a reference to the secret best ending of ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' in which the island does sink amid a sunset, and the regular ending in which K. Rool falls into the water which is full of sharks. I added it to the page, but it was almost instantly removed. Although I'm very convinced this is the reference, there so much potential references is seems impossible to make any kind of argument in favor of one game without invoking accusations of TTATOT. [[User:16BitJorge|16BitJorge]] 00:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:I could be wrong, but I think it's a reference to Contra. The music was deliciously 8-bit. The game ends with you leaving in a helicopter as the island explodes/sinks into the ocean. Of course, I could be wrong.[[User:StrongRad|StrongRad]] 03:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::And of course, the number of possibilities displayed on this talk page makes TTATOT evident. --[[User:24.222.241.186|24.222.241.186]] 11:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Freschka ==

Am I hearing it right? Homestar seems to mispronounce "Fresca" as either "fresha" or "freschka." --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 16:32, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
*Yeah...I think he does. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 00:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:: Now that you mention it, does anyone hear him pronounce "Sierra Mist" as "Sarah Mist"?--{{User:NoMayonnaise/sig}} 20:00, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia: first appearance of printer? ==

Should the fact that this is the first time the printer has been shown be added as trivia?
:Ah, but it's not. [[Email Processing Room|Twice]] [[lady fan|over]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:41, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== BASEketball ==

Hate to bring up the movie, but Homestar using a football on a basketball court is very reminiscent of BASEketball.{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:Footketball? - [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]]

::It's kind of like what's going on in [[The Athletic Field]], but backwards. Instead of having a football field with basketballs, they have a basketball field with a football. And anyways, BASEketball is played on modified baseball field but with basketballs. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Think of it this way. Have any of the HR characters EVER played an actual sport? -[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 02:39, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== Nightlight ==

Some anonny changed the word "night" in Strong Bad's song to "light". I can't listen to it right now to check, but is there any reason to think it'd be "light"? "Night" [[guitar|has]] a [[dragon|precedence]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:it is night{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:22, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::Obviously there's some disagreement here. I've seen more than one user use "light". Perhaps we should all re-listen rather than edit the page willy-nilly without consensus. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:26, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Like I said, I can't listen right now. I only changed the Fun Fact back to "night" after someone else changed the transcript. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I was merely attempting to prevent future willying and nillying, which often occurs in cases like these. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:36, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I definitely hear "night".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I re-listened, and I definitely hear "night" as well, FWIW. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 07:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::Listened to it carefully. Came to the conclusion that he says night. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::'''Night''' also fits the Trogdor song reference perfectly. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:15, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== .4? ==

Is Homsar's number as ".4" a reference to Strong Sad's lament, when he acknowledges that about his hit counter? --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 23:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Numbers like that are a running gag in the tv industry for usless characters.Usually it's 0 or 1/2,though.

Very possible...I can't recall what fraction of a person they said Homsar was, though. If it was .4, then it's definately a reference. Also, person above me, please sign your posts... -[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 02:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== As I was reading... ==

I was reading the Fun Facts and I couldn't find anything about the reference to the "One two" toon. Has anyone put it in there yet? {{User:Bassium!/sig}}
:Yes. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::It was me who put it! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::: As it's noted in the Easter Eggs section, it was removed. And re-added. And re-removed. And re-re-added. And so forth. And now [[STUFF]]ed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Anyone else hear "Wu-Tang"? ==

In the impressin' easter egg, it sounded like Coach Z was saying "Wu! Tang!", which would make sense since Z thinks they're the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/The_House_That_Gave_Sucky_Treats#Cherry_Clan BAERMB] and all. Anyone else hear it, or am I down with [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Pumpkin_Carve-nival#Transcript second to last place]? {{User:Nebulon/sig}} 01:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Striped Pants/Friend ==
I would like to suggest that SB referring to the paper as his "striped friend" is a reference to Homestar's "striped pants" in the email highschool, especially considering the pronunciation of "striped" (I'm not really sure the best way to indicate such pronunciation textually, however).
:We've already got [[-èd]]. It can't hut to mention it on the page. Italics in the transcript, anyone? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 02:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Uruk? ==
"The word "garglemesh" is a pun on the name of Gilgamesh, an ancient king of Uruk."
I don't see the relevance of this fact to the email. Can anyone expand on how the ancient king of Uruk is in any way relevant to a word Strong Bad made up? {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
:Yeah, you know, I know all aboot Gilgamesh, and I still really don't think it was meant to be a reference. Just some word Strong Bad made up. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 15:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::It sounds too close to Gilgamesh to be a coincidence. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::I understand if Strong Bad only used "mesh" to describe his objections to the sound. The fact that he added the "gargle-" prefix, which adds nothing to the word, makes me conclude that he intended to include a joke, and not just a random part. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:26, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I took it as a corruption of "garbled mess". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I think it's definitely a play on Gilgamesh, but the Uruk part really isn't relevant to the email itself. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 15:45, 12 June 2007
:::::I agree that it's a corruption of "garbled mess", and even if it ''was'' a reference, it could also be a reference to the Gilgamesh Epic, or even Gilgamesh from the Final Fantasy games. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 21:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::(I believe that Gilgamesh, king of Uruk, is the main character of the Gilgamesh Epic) [[User:Pensivepoet.babblingbard|Pensivepoet.babblingbard]] 22:26, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Dribble, Dribble, Shoot! ==
''The following is reconstructed from a STUFF page. Brackets indicate where intent was inferred rather than stated.''
<div style="text-align:center"><hr width="70%"/></div>
:''The rhythmic Easter Egg is a reference to [[One Two, One Two]], which was released immediately before this email.''
[This is] already noted right above the Easter egg. [[HRWiki:Once and Only Once|Once and Only Once]] applies. [It should therefore not be noted in inside references.] {{User:Jay/sig}} 16:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:[It should be noted in inside references.] {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 16:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::According to Wiki standards, this has to be mentioned in the Inside References section of the article. Perhaps it would be better if the link above the Easter egg was removed and this was added [in inside references] instead. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Once and only once is fine with me. {{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::[The Chort]: Could you direct me to where in the [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] it says that? Because, as far as I can tell, it doesn't. {{User:Jay/sig}} 16:15, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::What I meant was that it would be better if it was mentioned in the Inside References section because that's where all the inside references are meant to be placed. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::[It should be noted in inside references.] {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:19, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::[It should be noted in inside references.] — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Once and Only Once is the most misunderstood concept on the wiki. It does ''not'' mean "link once" (a separate idea stated elsewhere), but rather "don't duplicate work unnecessarily". A good example is the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] page, which uses a template for its transcript to avoid duplicating the work done for [[comic]]. The real question is, is having more than one link actually redundant in this case, or does it help the reader? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I agree with The Chort. It's an inside reference, so it should be noted in inside references. {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 17:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Been having trouble defending myself (like anyone ever agrees with me 9_9) thanks to Wiki hiccups (Wikkups?) Anyway, first of all, I'm not sure moving this off STUFF was a good idea. Secondly, we have a longstanding tradition of not putting things in Fun Facts that are already mentioned in some other fashion — generally through the transcript, such as Strong Sad's face appearing in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]], or the emails in [[do over]]. This isn't LITERALLY in the transcript, but it's pretty close. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:First of all, why would STUFF be better? This discussion isn't about ''whether'' to note something, but ''where'' and ''how'' to note it. In addition, there are more than two choices: we could note it in the Easter egg section, the inside references section, or both. Finally, the result of this thread could have implications for other toons, so a talk page would be a better place to hold such a discussion, as it allows for greater nuance.
:    I was under the impression that we linked in the transcript when we just couldn't find a place to link somewhere else. That is, transcript links are for things that aren't really ''referenced'' so much as they just make an appearance in the toon. Take the [[BMW lighter]], for example. If it shows up in a toon, it should be linked in the transcript so that someone unfamiliar with it can look it up, but its mere presence doesn't constitute a reference per se. On the other hand, the Easter egg in this toon is definitely making reference to [[One Two, One Two]]. It is, by definition, an inside reference, and so it seems logical to me that it should go in the inside references section. If we want to ''also'' hang a link in the Easter eggs section for clarity, then I have no problem with that either. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:: I suppose some of what you say makes sense, but a significant problem with Talk pages: visibility. Too many topics go unnoticed on Talk pages around here. If this IS an important issue, you're cutting into visibility putting it here. Heck, since it's been moved here, only one person who wasn't already in the discussion has joined in. We've had important issues indirectly on STUFF pages through related Fun Facts before. Now then, as for your points regarding appearances, I see what you're getting at, but this looks to be something of a gray issue to me. Again I bring up [[do over]]. The the emails being referred to, or are they simply appearing? (Of course, this issue is probably less gray than that, but still...) Furthermore, I apologize if I've seemed harsh, but between real-world stress and decisions that appear to be made with no consensus or discussion (sometimes, the decision to which I refer is NOT to let there be a consensus or discussion on something else) and little to no explanation, I'm getting angry over little things, like removal of this discussion from STUFF, pretty easily right now. Perhaps I need a Wikibreak. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Jay, this discussion isn't a half day old, of course more users have not joined in. I just got home an hour ago myself. Anyway, as this is a reference, I agree with those who say to link it from the fun facts. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Shiny blackness? ==

"And who knows how many times you saved my shiny black keister?"

Is it just me, or does this imply that Strong Bad is not wearing pants, and that his skin color is actually black (at least for his lower body)? [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 17:16, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:It would seem to suggest that. However, he has been seen [[stand-up|without]] [[senior prom|pants]] before. So no, the trousers aren't part of his skin. His boxing gloves and mask, on the other hand... {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:53, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're just his pants. Do you really think he would ever reveal the true color and level of shine of his actual keister? --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 02:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== Out of Nowhere ==
I've been thinking about where the printer is exactly. I mean, when we zoom out and can see the entire Computer Room, there's no printer in sight. Also, relating to this email, it falls out of nowhere. I don't exactly know... {{User:TheCoolRobot/sig}} 19:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
: I don't think anyone knows. How does Strong Bad type without boxing gloves? How does Homestar pick stuff up if he doesn't wear any Marzi-pants? How does The Paper appear when no one can see where the printer is - even outside of Strong Bad's computer room? Just one of the many mysteries of <strike>life</strike> Homestarrunner.com. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:: I agree - as Homestar mentions in this toon, Papes is able to transcend time and space (along with Homsar), which might explain a few things about other aspects of the H*R universe.--{{User:NoMayonnaise/sig}} 19:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk:the paper

Chupaqueso — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:41:49 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* .4? */

== Video Game Endings ==

That video game theme sounds very familiar... Moreso even than the [[Drive-Thru Whale]] theme... Where from? What do the expoits say? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
: I think it's from [[Population: Tire]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:50, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::GAH! Yes! That's it. Thanks. Now it's obvious. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:29, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Lil Stong Buh Shirt ==

he's wearing a devil duckie t-shirt. We should have a page of all his t-shirts. Also, When the paper burns up, the ash says "bye now".
:[[Character_Variations_Other_Costumes#Youthful_Characters|There is]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Inkjet Printers ==

The printer's new ink cartridge isn't working properly yet. As evidenced by the discolouration on the @ key and the horizontal lines throughout the printout. I'm not sure if it should be remarked or not. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 12:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:Looking at the a change to the transcript saying there are white lines on the paper. They have colour in them as you'd notice by zooming in. I don't know how to revise to an earlier version of the page and I don't know to word the transcript to reflect the detail. If anyone would oblige [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 14:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== the paper as a character ==

In this email at the very least the paper should probably be on the cast list. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 13:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::I agree [[User:Booksworm|Booksworm]] 14:14, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Using that logic, then the paper should be considered a character in every single Strong Bad Email, including other things like sick day. {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}

== Cheesesteaks and Tastykakes ==

<blockquote class="lappy email" style="background-image: none">
Look, Darius, if you want me to eat a Philly cheesesteak 
instead of answering an email this week, you got it. No 
skin off my back. I'll eat a couple-a Tastykakes while I'm 
at it, too. Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta skee-dat.
</blockquote>

Could this be TBC's explanation for not updating last week? ;) {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Some parts of that sound like they came from the mouth of Homestar. Could that be the '''''real''''' reason Homestar is tangled up like that (via The Paper)? [[User:Neox|Neox]]

== Count to G ==
Could the score "G" be a reference to The Ugly One's "I can count to G!" statement in Teeny Tiny Girl Squad? Pretty obscure I admit...--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 15:12, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:[[G]] is a running gag of it's own and already in the article's fun facts. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Strong bad is... old? ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' Why do all my thirty-year-old electronics keep breaking on me?!
At time of The Paper's birth, SB was like 2-7 years old or something. Well, unless he meant the technology 30 years ago. {{User:Murkrow/sig}} 15:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Bad's parents might have bought an old or second hand printer rather than a new one.
::Remember, too, that there's other instances where we see Strong Bad represented as someone in his likely 30's. [[secret identity]], for one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Then again, he could have bought it at a garbage sale for like 15 dollars, along with the Tandy. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::I agree that the printer may already have been old before the Strongs got ahold of it. {{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 15:04, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Lightness...darkness... whaaa? ==

Did anyone else notice that a few hours ago, the Homestar easter egg was bright (i.e., it looked like a light was on in the room there), but now it's dark? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
: As the one who transcribed the toon shortly after it came out, I can't say I did. That said, the scene WAS bright in the actual scene in the email; just not the Easter egg. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::No it's always been dark. I saw it at 6 AM, Eastern time, shortly after it came out, and I remember thinking how bright Lappy was in the dark. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 18:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Sonic the Hedgehog 3 reference ==

When the island Strong Bad is standing on is sinking and he says something about killing end bosses, I think it's a reference to STH3 when, after defeating the final boss of the game, Angel Island falls from the sky and lands in the sea. There's also another game, Sonic & Knuckles, where I think the island actually floats into the sky again, again after defeating the final boss. [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 15:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:It could just as easily be a reference to the video game "Sinking Island". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:13, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

::I always thought it looked a lot like the ending to Bionic Commando, where the Captain is flyiing away from the exploding base attatched to a helicopter. --{{User:Thatkidsam/sig}} 16:28, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Reminds me of "The Island of Dr. Destructo" for the C64, where you bomb various things until plumes of water shoot up and they sink. While it starts off with boats and subs, it soon progresses to islands, an inland castle, and space stations. Yep, a big plume of water shooting out of a sinking space station. --[[User:The Archon|The Archon]]

:What is a "load bearing boss?" Wikipedia doesn't explain. [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 16:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::It appears that the article on load bearing bosses was "merged" into [[Wikipedia:Boss (video games)|Boss (video games)]], although the info cannot be found there either, so I'm guessing it was removed entirely. I removed the Wikipedia link and explained what a load bearing boss is in [[the paper#Explanations|Explanations]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:42, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::The wikipedia article on load bearing bosses has been reinstated, so I have put the link back in. There seems to be some debate on Wikipedia at the moment about whether it should have its own article or not, but it has been acknowledged that when the article was removed the information was not properly incorporated into the article on boss characters. I therefore have left the explanation of what a load bearing boss is on the hrwiki article, so that when/if something changes on wikipedia readers will still have an explaination. [[User:Schaedenfreud82|Schaedenfreud82]] 10:43, 12 June 2007

:I thought it was a reference to Street Fighter, where Ryu ends up in the middle of the ocean after beating Akuma (Note Strong Bad's white Bandana). [[User:tehpie|tehpie]] 20:19, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:It can't be a Sonic 3 (& Knuckles) reference, Angel Island is being held up by the master emerald, Robotnik stole that and the island fell into the ocean. At the end of the game your chosen character gets the emerald back (Off Robotnik as Sonic/Tails, Off Super Mecha-Sonic as Knuckles) and the island rises back into the sky as the credits are rolling. - [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 00:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:I think it's a reference to the secret best ending of ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' in which the island does sink amid a sunset, and the regular ending in which K. Rool falls into the water which is full of sharks. I added it to the page, but it was almost instantly removed. Although I'm very convinced this is the reference, there so much potential references is seems impossible to make any kind of argument in favor of one game without invoking accusations of TTATOT. [[User:16BitJorge|16BitJorge]] 00:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:I could be wrong, but I think it's a reference to Contra. The music was deliciously 8-bit. The game ends with you leaving in a helicopter as the island explodes/sinks into the ocean. Of course, I could be wrong.[[User:StrongRad|StrongRad]] 03:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::And of course, the number of possibilities displayed on this talk page makes TTATOT evident. --[[User:24.222.241.186|24.222.241.186]] 11:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Freschka ==

Am I hearing it right? Homestar seems to mispronounce "Fresca" as either "fresha" or "freschka." --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 16:32, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
*Yeah...I think he does. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 00:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:: Now that you mention it, does anyone hear him pronounce "Sierra Mist" as "Sarah Mist"?--{{User:NoMayonnaise/sig}} 20:00, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia: first appearance of printer? ==

Should the fact that this is the first time the printer has been shown be added as trivia?
:Ah, but it's not. [[Email Processing Room|Twice]] [[lady fan|over]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:41, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== BASEketball ==

Hate to bring up the movie, but Homestar using a football on a basketball court is very reminiscent of BASEketball.{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:Footketball? - [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]]

::It's kind of like what's going on in [[The Athletic Field]], but backwards. Instead of having a football field with basketballs, they have a basketball field with a football. And anyways, BASEketball is played on modified baseball field but with basketballs. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Think of it this way. Have any of the HR characters EVER played an actual sport? -[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 02:39, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== Nightlight ==

Some anonny changed the word "night" in Strong Bad's song to "light". I can't listen to it right now to check, but is there any reason to think it'd be "light"? "Night" [[guitar|has]] a [[dragon|precedence]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:it is night{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:22, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::Obviously there's some disagreement here. I've seen more than one user use "light". Perhaps we should all re-listen rather than edit the page willy-nilly without consensus. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:26, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Like I said, I can't listen right now. I only changed the Fun Fact back to "night" after someone else changed the transcript. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I was merely attempting to prevent future willying and nillying, which often occurs in cases like these. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:36, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I definitely hear "night".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I re-listened, and I definitely hear "night" as well, FWIW. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 07:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::Listened to it carefully. Came to the conclusion that he says night. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::'''Night''' also fits the Trogdor song reference perfectly. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:15, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== .4? ==

Is Homsar's number as ".4" a reference to Strong Sad's lament, when he acknowledges that about his hit counter? --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 23:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Numbers like that are a running gag in the tv industry for usless characters.Usually it's 0 or 1/2,though.

Very possible...I can't recall what fraction of a person they said Homsar was, though. If it was .4, then it's definately a reference. Also, person above me, please sign your posts... -[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 02:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== As I was reading... ==

I was reading the Fun Facts and I couldn't find anything about the reference to the "One two" toon. Has anyone put it in there yet? {{User:Bassium!/sig}}
:Yes. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::It was me who put it! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::: As it's noted in the Easter Eggs section, it was removed. And re-added. And re-removed. And re-re-added. And so forth. And now [[STUFF]]ed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Anyone else hear "Wu-Tang"? ==

In the impressin' easter egg, it sounded like Coach Z was saying "Wu! Tang!", which would make sense since Z thinks they're the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/The_House_That_Gave_Sucky_Treats#Cherry_Clan BAERMB] and all. Anyone else hear it, or am I down with [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Pumpkin_Carve-nival#Transcript second to last place]? {{User:Nebulon/sig}} 01:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Striped Pants/Friend ==
I would like to suggest that SB referring to the paper as his "striped friend" is a reference to Homestar's "striped pants" in the email highschool, especially considering the pronunciation of "striped" (I'm not really sure the best way to indicate such pronunciation textually, however).
:We've already got [[-èd]]. It can't hut to mention it on the page. Italics in the transcript, anyone? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 02:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Uruk? ==
"The word "garglemesh" is a pun on the name of Gilgamesh, an ancient king of Uruk."
I don't see the relevance of this fact to the email. Can anyone expand on how the ancient king of Uruk is in any way relevant to a word Strong Bad made up? {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
:Yeah, you know, I know all aboot Gilgamesh, and I still really don't think it was meant to be a reference. Just some word Strong Bad made up. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 15:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::It sounds too close to Gilgamesh to be a coincidence. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::I understand if Strong Bad only used "mesh" to describe his objections to the sound. The fact that he added the "gargle-" prefix, which adds nothing to the word, makes me conclude that he intended to include a joke, and not just a random part. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:26, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I took it as a corruption of "garbled mess". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I think it's definitely a play on Gilgamesh, but the Uruk part really isn't relevant to the email itself. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 15:45, 12 June 2007
:::::I agree that it's a corruption of "garbled mess", and even if it ''was'' a reference, it could also be a reference to the Gilgamesh Epic, or even Gilgamesh from the Final Fantasy games. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 21:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::(I believe that Gilgamesh, king of Uruk, is the main character of the Gilgamesh Epic) [[User:Pensivepoet.babblingbard|Pensivepoet.babblingbard]] 22:26, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Dribble, Dribble, Shoot! ==
''The following is reconstructed from a STUFF page. Brackets indicate where intent was inferred rather than stated.''
<div style="text-align:center"><hr width="70%"/></div>
:''The rhythmic Easter Egg is a reference to [[One Two, One Two]], which was released immediately before this email.''
[This is] already noted right above the Easter egg. [[HRWiki:Once and Only Once|Once and Only Once]] applies. [It should therefore not be noted in inside references.] {{User:Jay/sig}} 16:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:[It should be noted in inside references.] {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 16:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::According to Wiki standards, this has to be mentioned in the Inside References section of the article. Perhaps it would be better if the link above the Easter egg was removed and this was added [in inside references] instead. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Once and only once is fine with me. {{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::[The Chort]: Could you direct me to where in the [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] it says that? Because, as far as I can tell, it doesn't. {{User:Jay/sig}} 16:15, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::What I meant was that it would be better if it was mentioned in the Inside References section because that's where all the inside references are meant to be placed. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::[It should be noted in inside references.] {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:19, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::[It should be noted in inside references.] — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Once and Only Once is the most misunderstood concept on the wiki. It does ''not'' mean "link once" (a separate idea stated elsewhere), but rather "don't duplicate work unnecessarily". A good example is the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] page, which uses a template for its transcript to avoid duplicating the work done for [[comic]]. The real question is, is having more than one link actually redundant in this case, or does it help the reader? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I agree with The Chort. It's an inside reference, so it should be noted in inside references. {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 17:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Been having trouble defending myself (like anyone ever agrees with me 9_9) thanks to Wiki hiccups (Wikkups?) Anyway, first of all, I'm not sure moving this off STUFF was a good idea. Secondly, we have a longstanding tradition of not putting things in Fun Facts that are already mentioned in some other fashion — generally through the transcript, such as Strong Sad's face appearing in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]], or the emails in [[do over]]. This isn't LITERALLY in the transcript, but it's pretty close. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:First of all, why would STUFF be better? This discussion isn't about ''whether'' to note something, but ''where'' and ''how'' to note it. In addition, there are more than two choices: we could note it in the Easter egg section, the inside references section, or both. Finally, the result of this thread could have implications for other toons, so a talk page would be a better place to hold such a discussion, as it allows for greater nuance.
:    I was under the impression that we linked in the transcript when we just couldn't find a place to link somewhere else. That is, transcript links are for things that aren't really ''referenced'' so much as they just make an appearance in the toon. Take the [[BMW lighter]], for example. If it shows up in a toon, it should be linked in the transcript so that someone unfamiliar with it can look it up, but its mere presence doesn't constitute a reference per se. On the other hand, the Easter egg in this toon is definitely making reference to [[One Two, One Two]]. It is, by definition, an inside reference, and so it seems logical to me that it should go in the inside references section. If we want to ''also'' hang a link in the Easter eggs section for clarity, then I have no problem with that either. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:: I suppose some of what you say makes sense, but a significant problem with Talk pages: visibility. Too many topics go unnoticed on Talk pages around here. If this IS an important issue, you're cutting into visibility putting it here. Heck, since it's been moved here, only one person who wasn't already in the discussion has joined in. We've had important issues indirectly on STUFF pages through related Fun Facts before. Now then, as for your points regarding appearances, I see what you're getting at, but this looks to be something of a gray issue to me. Again I bring up [[do over]]. The the emails being referred to, or are they simply appearing? (Of course, this issue is probably less gray than that, but still...) Furthermore, I apologize if I've seemed harsh, but between real-world stress and decisions that appear to be made with no consensus or discussion (sometimes, the decision to which I refer is NOT to let there be a consensus or discussion on something else) and little to no explanation, I'm getting angry over little things, like removal of this discussion from STUFF, pretty easily right now. Perhaps I need a Wikibreak. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Jay, this discussion isn't a half day old, of course more users have not joined in. I just got home an hour ago myself. Anyway, as this is a reference, I agree with those who say to link it from the fun facts. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Shiny blackness? ==

"And who knows how many times you saved my shiny black keister?"

Is it just me, or does this imply that Strong Bad is not wearing pants, and that his skin color is actually black (at least for his lower body)? [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 17:16, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:It would seem to suggest that. However, he has been seen [[stand-up|without]] [[senior prom|pants]] before. So no, the trousers aren't part of his skin. His boxing gloves and mask, on the other hand... {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:53, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Out of Nowhere ==
I've been thinking about where the printer is exactly. I mean, when we zoom out and can see the entire Computer Room, there's no printer in sight. Also, relating to this email, it falls out of nowhere. I don't exactly know... {{User:TheCoolRobot/sig}} 19:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
: I don't think anyone knows. How does Strong Bad type without boxing gloves? How does Homestar pick stuff up if he doesn't wear any Marzi-pants? How does The Paper appear when no one can see where the printer is - even outside of Strong Bad's computer room? Just one of the many mysteries of <strike>life</strike> Homestarrunner.com. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:: I agree - as Homestar mentions in this toon, Papes is able to transcend time and space (along with Homsar), which might explain a few things about other aspects of the H*R universe.--{{User:NoMayonnaise/sig}} 19:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk:the paper

Chupaqueso — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:39:11 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* BASEketball */

== Video Game Endings ==

That video game theme sounds very familiar... Moreso even than the [[Drive-Thru Whale]] theme... Where from? What do the expoits say? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
: I think it's from [[Population: Tire]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:50, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::GAH! Yes! That's it. Thanks. Now it's obvious. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:29, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Lil Stong Buh Shirt ==

he's wearing a devil duckie t-shirt. We should have a page of all his t-shirts. Also, When the paper burns up, the ash says "bye now".
:[[Character_Variations_Other_Costumes#Youthful_Characters|There is]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Inkjet Printers ==

The printer's new ink cartridge isn't working properly yet. As evidenced by the discolouration on the @ key and the horizontal lines throughout the printout. I'm not sure if it should be remarked or not. [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 12:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:Looking at the a change to the transcript saying there are white lines on the paper. They have colour in them as you'd notice by zooming in. I don't know how to revise to an earlier version of the page and I don't know to word the transcript to reflect the detail. If anyone would oblige [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 14:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== the paper as a character ==

In this email at the very least the paper should probably be on the cast list. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 13:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::I agree [[User:Booksworm|Booksworm]] 14:14, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Using that logic, then the paper should be considered a character in every single Strong Bad Email, including other things like sick day. {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}

== Cheesesteaks and Tastykakes ==

<blockquote class="lappy email" style="background-image: none">
Look, Darius, if you want me to eat a Philly cheesesteak 
instead of answering an email this week, you got it. No 
skin off my back. I'll eat a couple-a Tastykakes while I'm 
at it, too. Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta skee-dat.
</blockquote>

Could this be TBC's explanation for not updating last week? ;) {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Some parts of that sound like they came from the mouth of Homestar. Could that be the '''''real''''' reason Homestar is tangled up like that (via The Paper)? [[User:Neox|Neox]]

== Count to G ==
Could the score "G" be a reference to The Ugly One's "I can count to G!" statement in Teeny Tiny Girl Squad? Pretty obscure I admit...--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 15:12, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:[[G]] is a running gag of it's own and already in the article's fun facts. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Strong bad is... old? ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' Why do all my thirty-year-old electronics keep breaking on me?!
At time of The Paper's birth, SB was like 2-7 years old or something. Well, unless he meant the technology 30 years ago. {{User:Murkrow/sig}} 15:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Bad's parents might have bought an old or second hand printer rather than a new one.
::Remember, too, that there's other instances where we see Strong Bad represented as someone in his likely 30's. [[secret identity]], for one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Then again, he could have bought it at a garbage sale for like 15 dollars, along with the Tandy. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::I agree that the printer may already have been old before the Strongs got ahold of it. {{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 15:04, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Lightness...darkness... whaaa? ==

Did anyone else notice that a few hours ago, the Homestar easter egg was bright (i.e., it looked like a light was on in the room there), but now it's dark? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
: As the one who transcribed the toon shortly after it came out, I can't say I did. That said, the scene WAS bright in the actual scene in the email; just not the Easter egg. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::No it's always been dark. I saw it at 6 AM, Eastern time, shortly after it came out, and I remember thinking how bright Lappy was in the dark. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 18:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Sonic the Hedgehog 3 reference ==

When the island Strong Bad is standing on is sinking and he says something about killing end bosses, I think it's a reference to STH3 when, after defeating the final boss of the game, Angel Island falls from the sky and lands in the sea. There's also another game, Sonic & Knuckles, where I think the island actually floats into the sky again, again after defeating the final boss. [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 15:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:It could just as easily be a reference to the video game "Sinking Island". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:13, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

::I always thought it looked a lot like the ending to Bionic Commando, where the Captain is flyiing away from the exploding base attatched to a helicopter. --{{User:Thatkidsam/sig}} 16:28, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Reminds me of "The Island of Dr. Destructo" for the C64, where you bomb various things until plumes of water shoot up and they sink. While it starts off with boats and subs, it soon progresses to islands, an inland castle, and space stations. Yep, a big plume of water shooting out of a sinking space station. --[[User:The Archon|The Archon]]

:What is a "load bearing boss?" Wikipedia doesn't explain. [[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 16:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::It appears that the article on load bearing bosses was "merged" into [[Wikipedia:Boss (video games)|Boss (video games)]], although the info cannot be found there either, so I'm guessing it was removed entirely. I removed the Wikipedia link and explained what a load bearing boss is in [[the paper#Explanations|Explanations]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:42, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::The wikipedia article on load bearing bosses has been reinstated, so I have put the link back in. There seems to be some debate on Wikipedia at the moment about whether it should have its own article or not, but it has been acknowledged that when the article was removed the information was not properly incorporated into the article on boss characters. I therefore have left the explanation of what a load bearing boss is on the hrwiki article, so that when/if something changes on wikipedia readers will still have an explaination. [[User:Schaedenfreud82|Schaedenfreud82]] 10:43, 12 June 2007

:I thought it was a reference to Street Fighter, where Ryu ends up in the middle of the ocean after beating Akuma (Note Strong Bad's white Bandana). [[User:tehpie|tehpie]] 20:19, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:It can't be a Sonic 3 (& Knuckles) reference, Angel Island is being held up by the master emerald, Robotnik stole that and the island fell into the ocean. At the end of the game your chosen character gets the emerald back (Off Robotnik as Sonic/Tails, Off Super Mecha-Sonic as Knuckles) and the island rises back into the sky as the credits are rolling. - [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]] 00:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:I think it's a reference to the secret best ending of ''Donkey Kong Country 2'' in which the island does sink amid a sunset, and the regular ending in which K. Rool falls into the water which is full of sharks. I added it to the page, but it was almost instantly removed. Although I'm very convinced this is the reference, there so much potential references is seems impossible to make any kind of argument in favor of one game without invoking accusations of TTATOT. [[User:16BitJorge|16BitJorge]] 00:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:I could be wrong, but I think it's a reference to Contra. The music was deliciously 8-bit. The game ends with you leaving in a helicopter as the island explodes/sinks into the ocean. Of course, I could be wrong.[[User:StrongRad|StrongRad]] 03:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::And of course, the number of possibilities displayed on this talk page makes TTATOT evident. --[[User:24.222.241.186|24.222.241.186]] 11:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Freschka ==

Am I hearing it right? Homestar seems to mispronounce "Fresca" as either "fresha" or "freschka." --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 16:32, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
*Yeah...I think he does. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 00:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:: Now that you mention it, does anyone hear him pronounce "Sierra Mist" as "Sarah Mist"?--{{User:NoMayonnaise/sig}} 20:00, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia: first appearance of printer? ==

Should the fact that this is the first time the printer has been shown be added as trivia?
:Ah, but it's not. [[Email Processing Room|Twice]] [[lady fan|over]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:41, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== BASEketball ==

Hate to bring up the movie, but Homestar using a football on a basketball court is very reminiscent of BASEketball.{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:Footketball? - [[User:Stribbs|Stribbs]]

::It's kind of like what's going on in [[The Athletic Field]], but backwards. Instead of having a football field with basketballs, they have a basketball field with a football. And anyways, BASEketball is played on modified baseball field but with basketballs. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Think of it this way. Have any of the HR characters EVER played an actual sport? -[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 02:39, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== Nightlight ==

Some anonny changed the word "night" in Strong Bad's song to "light". I can't listen to it right now to check, but is there any reason to think it'd be "light"? "Night" [[guitar|has]] a [[dragon|precedence]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:it is night{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:22, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::Obviously there's some disagreement here. I've seen more than one user use "light". Perhaps we should all re-listen rather than edit the page willy-nilly without consensus. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:26, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Like I said, I can't listen right now. I only changed the Fun Fact back to "night" after someone else changed the transcript. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:31, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I was merely attempting to prevent future willying and nillying, which often occurs in cases like these. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:36, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I definitely hear "night".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I re-listened, and I definitely hear "night" as well, FWIW. --{{User:Bigscarymike/sig}} 07:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::Listened to it carefully. Came to the conclusion that he says night. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::'''Night''' also fits the Trogdor song reference perfectly. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:15, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== .4? ==

Is Homsar's number as ".4" a reference to Strong Sad's lament, when he acknowledges that about his hit counter? --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 23:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Numbers like that are a running gag in the tv industry for usless characters.Usually it's 0 or 1/2,though.

== As I was reading... ==

I was reading the Fun Facts and I couldn't find anything about the reference to the "One two" toon. Has anyone put it in there yet? {{User:Bassium!/sig}}
:Yes. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::It was me who put it! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::: As it's noted in the Easter Eggs section, it was removed. And re-added. And re-removed. And re-re-added. And so forth. And now [[STUFF]]ed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Anyone else hear "Wu-Tang"? ==

In the impressin' easter egg, it sounded like Coach Z was saying "Wu! Tang!", which would make sense since Z thinks they're the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/The_House_That_Gave_Sucky_Treats#Cherry_Clan BAERMB] and all. Anyone else hear it, or am I down with [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Pumpkin_Carve-nival#Transcript second to last place]? {{User:Nebulon/sig}} 01:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Striped Pants/Friend ==
I would like to suggest that SB referring to the paper as his "striped friend" is a reference to Homestar's "striped pants" in the email highschool, especially considering the pronunciation of "striped" (I'm not really sure the best way to indicate such pronunciation textually, however).
:We've already got [[-èd]]. It can't hut to mention it on the page. Italics in the transcript, anyone? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 02:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Uruk? ==
"The word "garglemesh" is a pun on the name of Gilgamesh, an ancient king of Uruk."
I don't see the relevance of this fact to the email. Can anyone expand on how the ancient king of Uruk is in any way relevant to a word Strong Bad made up? {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
:Yeah, you know, I know all aboot Gilgamesh, and I still really don't think it was meant to be a reference. Just some word Strong Bad made up. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 15:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::It sounds too close to Gilgamesh to be a coincidence. —{{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::I understand if Strong Bad only used "mesh" to describe his objections to the sound. The fact that he added the "gargle-" prefix, which adds nothing to the word, makes me conclude that he intended to include a joke, and not just a random part. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:26, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I took it as a corruption of "garbled mess". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::I think it's definitely a play on Gilgamesh, but the Uruk part really isn't relevant to the email itself. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 15:45, 12 June 2007
:::::I agree that it's a corruption of "garbled mess", and even if it ''was'' a reference, it could also be a reference to the Gilgamesh Epic, or even Gilgamesh from the Final Fantasy games. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 21:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::(I believe that Gilgamesh, king of Uruk, is the main character of the Gilgamesh Epic) [[User:Pensivepoet.babblingbard|Pensivepoet.babblingbard]] 22:26, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Dribble, Dribble, Shoot! ==
''The following is reconstructed from a STUFF page. Brackets indicate where intent was inferred rather than stated.''
<div style="text-align:center"><hr width="70%"/></div>
:''The rhythmic Easter Egg is a reference to [[One Two, One Two]], which was released immediately before this email.''
[This is] already noted right above the Easter egg. [[HRWiki:Once and Only Once|Once and Only Once]] applies. [It should therefore not be noted in inside references.] {{User:Jay/sig}} 16:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:[It should be noted in inside references.] {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 16:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::According to Wiki standards, this has to be mentioned in the Inside References section of the article. Perhaps it would be better if the link above the Easter egg was removed and this was added [in inside references] instead. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Once and only once is fine with me. {{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 16:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::[The Chort]: Could you direct me to where in the [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] it says that? Because, as far as I can tell, it doesn't. {{User:Jay/sig}} 16:15, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::What I meant was that it would be better if it was mentioned in the Inside References section because that's where all the inside references are meant to be placed. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::[It should be noted in inside references.] {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:19, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::[It should be noted in inside references.] — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Once and Only Once is the most misunderstood concept on the wiki. It does ''not'' mean "link once" (a separate idea stated elsewhere), but rather "don't duplicate work unnecessarily". A good example is the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]] page, which uses a template for its transcript to avoid duplicating the work done for [[comic]]. The real question is, is having more than one link actually redundant in this case, or does it help the reader? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I agree with The Chort. It's an inside reference, so it should be noted in inside references. {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 17:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Been having trouble defending myself (like anyone ever agrees with me 9_9) thanks to Wiki hiccups (Wikkups?) Anyway, first of all, I'm not sure moving this off STUFF was a good idea. Secondly, we have a longstanding tradition of not putting things in Fun Facts that are already mentioned in some other fashion — generally through the transcript, such as Strong Sad's face appearing in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]], or the emails in [[do over]]. This isn't LITERALLY in the transcript, but it's pretty close. How is this different? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:First of all, why would STUFF be better? This discussion isn't about ''whether'' to note something, but ''where'' and ''how'' to note it. In addition, there are more than two choices: we could note it in the Easter egg section, the inside references section, or both. Finally, the result of this thread could have implications for other toons, so a talk page would be a better place to hold such a discussion, as it allows for greater nuance.
:    I was under the impression that we linked in the transcript when we just couldn't find a place to link somewhere else. That is, transcript links are for things that aren't really ''referenced'' so much as they just make an appearance in the toon. Take the [[BMW lighter]], for example. If it shows up in a toon, it should be linked in the transcript so that someone unfamiliar with it can look it up, but its mere presence doesn't constitute a reference per se. On the other hand, the Easter egg in this toon is definitely making reference to [[One Two, One Two]]. It is, by definition, an inside reference, and so it seems logical to me that it should go in the inside references section. If we want to ''also'' hang a link in the Easter eggs section for clarity, then I have no problem with that either. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:: I suppose some of what you say makes sense, but a significant problem with Talk pages: visibility. Too many topics go unnoticed on Talk pages around here. If this IS an important issue, you're cutting into visibility putting it here. Heck, since it's been moved here, only one person who wasn't already in the discussion has joined in. We've had important issues indirectly on STUFF pages through related Fun Facts before. Now then, as for your points regarding appearances, I see what you're getting at, but this looks to be something of a gray issue to me. Again I bring up [[do over]]. The the emails being referred to, or are they simply appearing? (Of course, this issue is probably less gray than that, but still...) Furthermore, I apologize if I've seemed harsh, but between real-world stress and decisions that appear to be made with no consensus or discussion (sometimes, the decision to which I refer is NOT to let there be a consensus or discussion on something else) and little to no explanation, I'm getting angry over little things, like removal of this discussion from STUFF, pretty easily right now. Perhaps I need a Wikibreak. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Jay, this discussion isn't a half day old, of course more users have not joined in. I just got home an hour ago myself. Anyway, as this is a reference, I agree with those who say to link it from the fun facts. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Shiny blackness? ==

"And who knows how many times you saved my shiny black keister?"

Is it just me, or does this imply that Strong Bad is not wearing pants, and that his skin color is actually black (at least for his lower body)? [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 17:16, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:It would seem to suggest that. However, he has been seen [[stand-up|without]] [[senior prom|pants]] before. So no, the trousers aren't part of his skin. His boxing gloves and mask, on the other hand... {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:53, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Out of Nowhere ==
I've been thinking about where the printer is exactly. I mean, when we zoom out and can see the entire Computer Room, there's no printer in sight. Also, relating to this email, it falls out of nowhere. I don't exactly know... {{User:TheCoolRobot/sig}} 19:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
: I don't think anyone knows. How does Strong Bad type without boxing gloves? How does Homestar pick stuff up if he doesn't wear any Marzi-pants? How does The Paper appear when no one can see where the printer is - even outside of Strong Bad's computer room? Just one of the many mysteries of <strike>life</strike> Homestarrunner.com. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:: I agree - as Homestar mentions in this toon, Papes is able to transcend time and space (along with Homsar), which might explain a few things about other aspects of the H*R universe.--{{User:NoMayonnaise/sig}} 19:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Talk:more armies

Chupaqueso — Mon, 21 May 2007 22:01:30 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* Not-yet opened STUFF */

Just making sure. Frank Bennedetto was not in this email, but rather a memorial to him. Right?

Uhm... no. Frank was revealed to be alive in Labor Dabor (and sign your name please.) -[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 21:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

== I have made my decission ==

I can do the transcript luckaly say my parents. I can do the transcript. Can I do the transcript again? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}

:[[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] is {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=more_armies&curid=34763&diff=460758&oldid=460756&rcid=415474 working on it now}}. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

==Not-yet opened STUFF==

The third kid facing certain doom in the Homestarmy refers to military school.

- {{User:Gtxm78/sig}} 21:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that, if anything, certain doom refers to the fact that Homestar is a ridiculously inept "commander" and will lead the Homestarmy to certain doom. - [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 22:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Talk:your funeral

Chupaqueso — Mon, 26 Mar 2007 02:29:20 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* Taranchula */

== 2:03 ==

I think that when Strong Bad mentions that the zombies will come at 2:03 it is a reference to Strong Sad's Lament when he says that Tuesdays at 2:03 is his favorite time.
:- It's possible, but it's a bit of a stretch. Especially since March 31, 2047 falls on a Saturday. --[[User:Lukeonia1|Lukeonia1]] 07:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::But the easter egg takes place in ''2046''. In which case March 31 is a Sunday. Either way, it's not Tuesday. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:Strong Sad likes Tuesdays at 3:02, not 2:03. [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 02:35, 16 March 2007

== Homestar and Marzipan ==

I'm not sure if it belongs on the wiki, but is it possible that Homestar and Marzipan live with each other? The front of Marzipan's house looks the same, and Homestar's broken Cow lamp may be a different room besides the front. should this be on their relationship page?

:I don't think so. Marzipan's house is blue, as seen in 2003 Halloween toon [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] and Homestar is trick or treating at this house. Though Homestar is kinda funny and doesn't think somethings through most of the time, I don't think he would trick or treat at his own home. Homestar's house is gray as seen in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]. However it could be that this ''is'' the same house and is only colored based on the season (blue because it's night and grey because of the cold snow). [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 16:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::If you look on the pages for [[Homestar's House]] and [[Marzipan's House]], the interior rooms look different, meaning they can't live together. On the other hand, that makes me wonder why he said, "Marzipan, I'm home!" when he doesn't actually live there. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Huh. Maybe that was just Homestar being Homestar and confirming things he doesn't even know about. Kind of like the whole "It's time for tasteball!", "Oh, crap. Tasteball already." bit. 18:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:This scene is Strong Bad's future speculation (after all, he's dead at this point). It's possible that Homestar and Marzipan could be cohabitating at this future time, no? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:In the commentary for [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], TBC said that they didn't want anyone thinking that Homestar and Marzipan live together (or something to that effect). [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

==Can I help?==
can I help with trying to find some glitches? -[[User:TheDenzel|The Denzel]] 01:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:You don't have ask. Do whatever you want to help. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== the email is down right now. ==

This probably means it will soon be updated in a way that will be of interest for the 'glitch/trivia' section.[[User:168.156.44.101|168.156.44.101]] 02:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:...uh, no. It's not. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:(if you are getting a 404'd from it, hold down the shift key and hit the reload button) {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 02:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It perhaps wasn't gone for long, I reloaded it SEVERAL during a few minutes when it wouldn't seem to appear.[[User:24.22.145.14|24.22.145.14]] 05:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::This is unremarkable, it happens all the time. It's on your end. You need to clear your cache or force a reload using the aforementioned trick. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Homestar lip dot?==
When Homestar is reading from the phone book, one of the mouth frames has a black dot on it, and shows up whenever that particular frame is up. — [[User:69.105.202.40|69.105.202.40]] ([[User talk:69.105.202.40|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.105.202.40|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])

- Check please. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 03:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I checked the email. The dot is very small and faint, but it does trully exist. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::frame 2031, it is an error with his eye. when he closes his eyes, one of them does not get fully erased. {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::If it is not noticeable to the viewer except by manipulation, it's not notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Too far? ==

O_O Too... i dunno. Definitely not for kids. More PG-13 rated.

[[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Uh... Why? Because there's corpses? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 02:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::It's all pretty cartoony, expecially how Strong Bad continues to fail staying dead. Strong Bad waking up with an exposed ribcage creeped me out a little, but I wouldn't say the email went too far. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I think they were in danger of going too far, given the rather morbid question, but I have to say they handled it quite nicely. I mean, Homestar reading from the phone book at a eulogy? Genius! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::: Got it! [[User:Everybody!|Everybody!]] 14:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Getting a bit forumy here. Let's keep this page about the content. Thanks. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:No one ever made the claim that Homestar Runner was a cartoon for children. (In fact, in the email "For kids," Strong Bad is quite opposed to the idea, heh.) I didn't see you complaining when one of the members of Blue Laser got a fork jammed in his eye. Stop taking it so seriously. [[User:0rion|0rion]]
::[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=10241 Read this thread]. I don't know if the person who started this section complained about it, but some people have. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Ummm, I don't know why, but this e-mail creeped me out too. Everybody! is right. I know, I know, I'm weird... Also, my friend was talking to me about this website, and she said it was a family website. 0.o I dunno.--[[User:Strong Rose|~Rose]] 21:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Please do not add to this forum-style topic. This talk page is for discussing article content only.'''

== Egg - future SB ==

Are you sure he's a zombie in the egg? When he came out of the jar as a zombie he had black eyes and a visible rib. In the egg it looks like he's just stuck somethng to his head, put on some tattered jeans and is spitting out a mouthful of grape jelly. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 03:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. I think he's still alive there.{{User:Shwoo/sig}} 03:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Which would agree with what he said at the end of the email. How he hoped the zombies would let him be on their side, even though he was alive. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:While I see where you all are coming from, in my opinion, SB acts more like a zombie in the easter egg than in the e-mail. That is, in the e-mail proper, he has complete and full consciousness, while such presumably cannot be said for egg SB. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:02, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, he ''acts'' like a zombie, anyone can spit out jelly while saying "Blarg". - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]]
:::I don't exactly follow. It's true that ''anyone'' can spit out jelly and say, "Blarg." My point is that it would be unthinkable, or at least improbable, that a zombie would speak coherently and recognize people, as Strong Bad does when he breaks out of the jar. I was merely pointing out that easter egg SB seems more zombie-esque (by merit of being less human-esque) than he does in the e-mail itself. It also seems likely that he's just pretending to be a zombie, as this is hinted at in the end of the e-mail. So, in my opinion, he's not really a zombie in either scenario. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 19:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::::It's kinda hard to just be ''pretending'' your a zombie when your skin is tattered and rotting and your ribcage is exposed. I see your point, and it's valid, but it still doesn't justify why he'd still be alive when he breaks out of the jar. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 7:04 PM, March 18, 2007 (EST)

== References in future characters? ==

Do you think Future Pom Pom and Future Strong Sad are references in themselves? Future Pom Pom looks a lot like Duke Nukem... — [[User:68.44.220.232|68.44.220.232]] ([[User talk:68.44.220.232|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.44.220.232|contribs]]) {{{2}}} (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])
:By their faces, beards, cigars, and ammo belts, I am willing to wager that it is a reference to the Contra series of video games and the 2 main chracters from the original game in that series. See the picture located [http://www.racketboy.com/retro/contra-arcade.jpg here] for confirmation purposes.~[[User:DanZero|DanZero]] 06:31, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Interesting — I wonder if there's a closer reference though, only because Contra doesn't have anything like zombies in it. Or maybe it's just a general reference to that style of gritty '80s action hero... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Sure does seem to look a lot like contra... hard to piece together why they'd use that tho. other than the fact that it was like the best game ever --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 07:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I just thought they were the archetype of futuristic survivors. I didn't see a particular reference, it's endemic to the genre. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::I thought Strong Sad was a bit reminiscent of Snake Plissken from the film "Escape From New York", but it might just be me. [[User:Klarsh|Klarsh]] 16:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::Not sure how relevant it is, but am I alone in thinking there are similarities between future Strong Sad and the Strong Sad action figure? -Xerzes, who hasn't done this enough to remember how to make the sig and timestamp happen.

::My first impression was that Pom Pom looked like Cable from the X-Men animated series but it's been a while since I've seen that. An X-Men connection could explain the Doomsday device though, which was created to kill all the mutants (or in this case, zombies). Then again, post-apocalyptic scenarios with cigars and doomsday devices are pretty common! [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 12:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:::It's probably just TTATOT, seeing how many references we've been able to come up with. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 03:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

== screaming yellow ==

Is there any evidence that this is really a reference to the candy, and not say, to the car? Either seems pretty much arbitrary to me. Perhaps the candy is a bit more in "TBC style" as far as references go (so retro). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: But TBC didn't make the reference... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::yes, of course, since this is in the body of the email received, it should be assumed that TBC are refering to nothing at all, and it's simply word for word the email they received. At any rate, it feels like speculation to me. Though, there are only 2 or 3 things in the popular lexicon that I can imagine the author of the email intended. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Perhaps it was a faulty reference to Dripping Yellow Madness. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 05:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Although I have no problems in keeping the reference out (since any reference made by a fan is borderline as it is), I don't think it's a matter of [[TTATOT]]. I'm almost certain that it's a reference to Screamin' Yellow Zonkers. If this gets taken to a vote, I'll green light it, but as of right now, I have no problems with it being left out. - [[User:0rion|0rion]]
Removed as speculation, we have no idea what the author intended and there is more than one
possiblity {{User:Bryanc/sig}}:
<blockquote>*'Screaming Yellow Strong Bad' is presumably a reference to the snack food [[Wikipedia:Screaming Yellow Zonkers|Screaming Yellow Zonkers]].</blockquote>
Ideas in the email itself are not TBC created, and as such are not notable references in nearly all cases. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: I think they should have continued the joke...I mean, Screaming Yellow Zonkers? Screaming Yellow Zombie? I'm not sayings it's comedic gold,like commas, but it's definitely the same style humor as this website. ~ Shadix

In my mind, I thought it was a reference to [[Unseen Characters|Dripping Yellow Madness]] from [[Cool Things]], but since it was part of the e-mail rather than something that's within the toon inself, I didn't bother mentioning anything. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 15:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Vocal Effect ==

What effect did they put on Strong bads Voice when he was "zombiefied" its Awesome, and being the Avant-Garde Musician, it would help a lot (music wise). Thanks.

--

i think it's an allusion to what happens to the character "jordy" (played by stephen king) in the movie creepshow. the undead jordy sounds just like the undead strong bad.

--

Awesome, ill read up on that. now i need to find out how to replicate it ^^

== Passion Reference?? ==

Am I the only one who sees a ridiculous amount of Passion of the Christ references? Strong Sad carrying the jar like the cross while being whipped, Strong Bad's exposed ribcage, references to the repeatedly changed day of prophecy that the souls of the dead will come back as zombies and attack the living? Am I crazy or just the only one morbid enough to see it?
*You're crazy and unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
: Ah, very good then. Thought: Baleeted.
::And you're still unsigned. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The first two I could kind of understand, though I would call them more coincidental. The last one makes no sense: when in Mel Gibson's film did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed day of a prophecy that souls of the dead will come back and attack the living? [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:Never seen the movie, but when in ''this email'' did anyone refer to a repeatedly changed date that souls of the dead would come back? Strong Bad didn't change the date of the zombie revolution; he just got more and more specific as to the time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Does the whipping thing reference ''anything''? it seems like it should... --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:No, it's just a poke at slavery. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 18:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== 2046? 20X6? ==

Could this be a reference? I know it means that 2046 is NOT 20X6 (as the characters look completely different from their 20X6 forms) but could the similarity of the years be a reference? You know, a nudge from TBC, baiting us, telling us "Hey, here's one that it's NOT, good luck figuring out which one it IS." [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 11:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:I think that 20X6 is actually one year, or else last year would also be 20X6. When Sam (from Concord, California) who asked the e-mail in [[time capsule]] said it would be opened in X0 years, I think Strong Bad took X0 as an actual way to calculate time in years. {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

::That does not directly address the question I brought up in any way. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 14:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Isn't the year "2046" often used in some comicbooks to depict a future alternate reality? I know there's a movie called [[Wikipedia:2046 (film)|2046]], but I don't recall zombies in that. - {{User:Ren Foxx/sig}} 14:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Well, I know I looked on the back of a really old Metroid game box in a computer store and it said "In the year 20X5..." -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 22:31, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, you guys. Have a look at the intro paragraph of [[20X6]] ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fourth wall Break? ==

Marzipan just leaned over the edge of the left side of the frame. Is this a fourth wall break? {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 12:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:You're joking right? {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 13:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Don't be mean. Now, I can see what you're trying to say. If she physically manipulated the frame (which we wouldn't be able to see anyway), THEN it would be a fourth wall break. As far as we're concerned, it's like someone leaning away from they're cooking to talk to their relative, or something. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 14:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh thanks for your help Bryanc. B-( {{User:Drippingyellowmadness/sig}} 19:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I did not mean to be rude, I'm very sorry I came across that way. But this is not close to what a break in the theatrical 4th wall means. A "fourth wall" break is when the actors acknowledge that they are actors. It was to be somewhat jarring, like out of nowhere Strong Sad looks into the camera and says "Hello!". That is breaking 4th wall. It's toyed with a lot and the lines are blurred here. Which makes it a little difficult to say what and what.
{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

==Addendum==

An addendum is "something added or to be added, especially a supplement to a book". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's nice to know. go ahead and put it under the "Explanations" sectionor the remarks section. -[[User:Zerlock1124|Zerlock1124]] 22:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::I dunno — do we usually list definitions of words under Explanations, unless it has something to do with the context of the toon? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

==Breaking References??==
I'm against listing "So Cold" by Breaking Benjamin as a reference for the funeral procession. I just watched the video again on Youtube, and there's nothing there to link it as a reference, beyond the fact that they're both funeral processions, which is far from unique. At the very least, I think the wording should be changed, "oddly reminiscent" is too vague and seems to me to be an admission that it's not really a reference. Either re-word it into a definite, specific reference or get rid of it completely. [[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 17:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's a reference either. I say, go ahead and remove it, and if anyone thinks it should stay they can STUFF it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Bibendum image ==

The Bibendum easter egg isn't just a Michelin reference, it's a direct reference to [http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Le-Pneu-Michelin-Nunc-Est-Bibendum-Giclee-Print-C12046037.jpeg this classic ad]. According to [[Wikipedia:Michelin#Bibendum|Wikipedia]], which provides a translation of the ad's text, the name of the mascot (which is Latin for "to drink") originated with this ad. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 19:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:Whoa, good find — you're right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Good job. you can go ahead and put that on the page WITH the picture.
:Waaait a second there, man. "bibendum" is a gerund, so it just means "drinking" (in its use as a noun, not a verb or adjective, e.g. "Drinking is fun").
::The image is clearly a reference to the ad, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Newlydead ==
When Strong Bad said 'newlydead', do you think he was making a play on 'newlywed'? I know it doesn't really fit the context, but just by the way it sounds...maybe not....--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, I'd say that's probably where he derived the word. Typical Strong Bad coinage, I'd say. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
::Count me in too. An easy pun Strong Bad would say. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. Very yes. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 21:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

== Chaup au Fan? ==

What is a "Chaup au Fan"? If anyone knows, this should be added to Explanations. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

:It sounds like very poor and broken French. Literally, I think it would be "[Nonexistent word] to the fan[as in, a Homestar fan, not a fan which would move air]." Perhaps by « Chaup » they were trying to make "Chap" sound more French? Thus, the image was created by the Chaps for a fan? Chaup could be a French word, I'm not certain (I'm only in fifth-year French), but it's not one I've ever heard, nor can I find it in my dictionary. Oh, and by the way, the pronunciation (following the IPA standards) would probably be something like: ʃop o fɑ̃ [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

::While I appreciate the linguistic exploration (I do love those), I'm assuming it must actually mean something. It's unlike TBC to include something like this which is made up out of whole cloth. There's gotta be a meaning to this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:::True; "From the Chaps, for a fan" would be my best guess at the actual meaning, but who knows. Again, maybe they just wanted to make it look French, Michelin being a French company. I'll look into the issue further.[[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:I may be completely crazy, but it seems to me to be similar to the way Strong Sad produces "Chaparone" in senior prom. Anyone? [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I think it's just Strong Sad's (quite good) French accent that makes them sound similiar. And I favor an explantion of what this term means by someone who knows as I've been able to find nothing about it. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::: It's pretty much just nonsense. There's a "translation" up there ^ a few lines, but it's just telling you that what Strong Sad's saying doesn't make sense. I've taken four years of French and I can tell you thatit's garbage. Pure garbage, sister. Also, I feel that SS's accent leaves much to be desired... he overdoes it on many an occasion. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

== Put him in a jar? ==

I don't hear "put him in a jar," but rather "brother in a jar." Anyone else? -just a random newb

Actually, I thought it sounded like "funeral in a jar" [[User:63.165.156.213|63.165.156.213]] 23:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

not enough syllables. speaking of, when they say it the third time, and also in the easter egg, they run the words together, so it's more like "puteminajar". does anyone else think this should be indicated in the transcript? [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:I definitely heard brother on a second viewing. Also, it could be "fun'ral," so syllables aren't an issue. Could we maybe get a vote? I cast my vote... '''BROTHER'''-wards! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:It doesn't sound like "brother" to me. There's no r sound. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 06:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::I definitely heard "put him" (I was the transcriber.) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I hear "brother in a jar". -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 01:45, 16 March 2007 (CST)
::::I also definitely hear "put him".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::While I'm not sure exactly what it says, I am pretty certain that I hear neither "brother in a jar" nor "put him in a jar." I've listened to it over and over again, and instead of "in," it sounds like it's saying "for," though I have not been able to come up with a wording for the sentence in which that would make sense. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 03:11, 16 March 2007 (EST)
:I watched it three times this week and heard "Brother in a jar." I also thought "fall back" was "Pom Bag" and that it was supposed to be 2046 Pom Pom's name. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::I hear "Put him in a jar" [[User:MisteR t|mister t]] 17:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::My best guess is "Pull him from the jar". I definitely hear it starting with "P" sound, and I'm pretty sure about the "f" sound ("from" or maybe "for") and "the jar" instead of "a jar". Maybe the second word is "it" instead of "him". But maybe we'd better just wait til they release it as a quote. I hope they do! -another random newb, 22:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Yeah, your guess sounds a lot closer.

Should we add a footnote to the transcript? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:We don't usually do that when we're unsure.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::I found similar footnotes in [[boring (really)]] and [[candy product]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The footnote is useful when there is no consensus, or equal consensus for different options. In this case I don't really know if there us consesnus, but I'm personally happy to allow the footnote to remain as proposed while discussion ensues. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I watched it several times, and I always heard "put him in a jar". Well, more like "puteminajar", as Neumannz said. It also makes more sense. I can't see "brother in a jar" being relevant, and about "funeral in a jar", the funeral isn't in the jar. It's in.. wherever the funeral is. But that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

:I hear "put him in a jar" too, which makes the most sense, too. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::I can only hear "put him in a jar". ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 23:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC))

Well, now that the Quote of the Week says "brother" instead of "put him", I may suggest every single change to the transcript and subtitles once again. Man, same issue with Marzipan's word booty. Anyway, I'm only visiting, and then I'm leaving again. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 22:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:Yes, that goes without saying. We don't really need to be reminded to make those changes. (He's talking about [[Quote of the Week#QW-2007-03-22|this quote]], by the way.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Yay, I got it! And some others, but not the majority, got it too! [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
:High fives all around! [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 03:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
::Yay! -just the random newb who started all of this

== Coach Z 1234 Beat ==

The beat in Strong Bad's funeral kind of sounds like the #1 hit: [[These Peoples Try To Fade Me]] -{{User:Viklas/sig}}

:Sounded more like Another One Bites The Dust to me... [[User:74.119.23.212|74.119.23.212]] 00:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:TTAOT, it sounded like a generic rap to me. Which could sound like a lot of raps. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== World War Z ==

This is really just idle speculation, but has anyone hear ever read World War Z? It's a story about what would happen if Zombies really did attack humanity within the next 30-40 years. I'm pretty sure that TBC hasn't even heard of the book, but still, I feel like this deserves a minor refrence due to the similarities, like here, on the talk page. Also, could Screaming Yellow be a reference to Kyle the Yellow Dart Smith? Again, idle speculation
:Actually, I was more apt to believe the zombie references in this email have to do with the horror/sci-fi genre of video games and movies, like Resident Evil and the like. But that's already starting down the TTATOT path. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::'''NEVER''' use my name in vain. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 02:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:There's also a book called ''The Zombie Survival Guide'', and probably countless others in the same strain. You could never have a reference, it's just TTATOT. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 05:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::How coincidental. I was reading both those books just today. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::It was probably a reference to "Dripping Yellow Madness." [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I don't think the zombie uprising was a reference to anything in particular, because that's been used in a lot of different stories/movies/whatever. And I'm really not sure what Screaming Yellow was a reference to, but since it was from the fan, they could be just writing random words or something to make it sound funny. Who knows?
::::Also, what's TTATOT mean? {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 21:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::See [[TTATOT]]: "'This That And The Other Thing.' Applicable when a reference in a toon could refer to one of many similar things. The rule of thumb is that if it could apply to several things, it probably refers to nothing in particular."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

== Same? ==

Is Strong Sad really saying the same thing that his Bibendum advert has written out? It sounds more like he's saying chapon fond, chape en front, chape en fan, or even chapeau fort, more than Chaup au fan. Unless he just has horrible French pronunciation. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

:There's no copy in that ad which would be reasonably mispronounced by a moderately-educated person as "Chap au fan" - and this is TBC we're talking about. This is clearly something but what? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:Just a wild shot in the dark, but we are talking about the Chap brothers' website, right?

:I'm pretty sure he is indeed saying the same thing as the text in the ad, but there might be an off chance it's "something enfant". Perhaps "Chaps enfant" meaning that Strong Bad is a (brain)child of the Brothers Chaps. It's a bit of a stretch, and I think in proper French the "s" at the end of "Chaps" would be pronounced at the beginning of "enfant" anyway. Just a thought. - {{User:ReverendTed/sig}} 04:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:Strong Sad's pronuciation in French is, whenever he's done it before, quite good. It would be out of character if he were screwing this up. Any dancers out there? I really would like to know what Monsieur Sad is referring to. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:I'm a ballroom dancer. I think what Strong Sad is saying is "chassé font" (pronounced more or less like what Strong Sad said, like "schahs auh faunt") which is a move we use in ballroom to mean a long step forward, followed by sliding the other foot to neutral position again. In other words, extend the first (usually right) leg like a lady's lunge in tango, then slide the other foot back, the foot ending sideways. Does that make sense? The only problem I see is that isn't really a flashy move, so why would SS want to show it off? [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

::Is that how it's pronounced in ballroom dancing terms? Because in French, it would be pronounced more like "shahs say fon(with a nasal 't' suggested at the end)." [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::I don't speak a word of French, so I'm probably entirely inaccurate in the pronunciation. My ballroom teacher is from Wisconsin, so that probably influences the accent a bit ;) [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]
:::I think you mean a nasal "n" sound. The t is silent. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 18:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::::That's why I said it was suggested at the end; the nasalization of the "n" suggests a "t" afterwards. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]
:::::Oh. That's kinda weird, but okay, I guess. Really, though, the nasal n could suggest other letters, so I would have just said that, but hey, whatever floats your boat. [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 13:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::One thing I also thought of, silly as it may be: this may also link to SB's comment about a "chappy thong." Reason being is if you aren't used to moving correctly, certain garments like to wedge themselves in uncomfortable places. [[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

== Phone Book ==

Anyone else notice that this is the second email in a row to refer to a phone book? The last has Homestar mentioning that the "real money is in" phone books, and this one has has the reading from the "book of phone." Is this, perhaps, setting itself up as another running gag? Or, more interestingly, might it somehow be tied into the recent DNA references?

:Hm -- I think it's a coincidence. Much like the [[Talk:unnatural#Chocolate cake again! I said chocolate cake again!|chocolate cake]] reference in [[unnatural]], there's nothing else that ties it to the previous appearance... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:We'll see if it comes up again next email [[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]

::Yeah, probably just a coincidence. But I still think the chocolate cake thing was anything but coincidental.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 11:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Mycology and Leonard part 6 ==

the tape in the boOOMmbox says my c00logy, which is much like mycology, the study of fungi. fungi eat dead people. fungi probably are eating dead strong bad.<s> fun fact?</s> notable? prolly. also, the reference to leotards being part of a weapon is reminescent of Leonard part 6. {{User:Csours/sig}} 17:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's notable. He's just emphasizing how COOL his eulogy is. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 17:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Agreed. (And it probably needs adding to [[Portmanteaus]]. I'll go do that now...) {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::: <strike>Just another thought- should it go in [[Internet Slang]] too? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 19:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)</strike>
::::...actually, now that I look at it, it's COOLogy rather than c00logy, so discount that.{{User:Kahteh/sig}} 22:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I think it's notable to point out that this webpage may be the only webpage in existence that refers to both The Passion and Leonard Part 6
:::::[http://www.google.ca/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=3fc&q=%22Passion%20of%20the%20Christ%22%20%22Leonard%20Part%206%22&btnG=Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=iw That's simply not true.] --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 23:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

== Fixed it? ==

I re-watched the e-mail again, and it looks like that when he says "funeral's" he actually types funeral's now.

== "Marizipan i'm home!" ==

I can't think what, but I'm sure this is a parody on something, there was a TV show where sombody said "*Someone* I'm home!" in very similar mannor... [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 21:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:It's basically a cliche by now... It was done a lot in those '50s shows. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe "Lucy, I'm home!"? {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 22:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

:It was such a cliche on black and white tv shows that there was a truly terrible television show, a parody (though really stretching the definition of the word) made for Nick at Nite in the late early '90's named after it. (I can't believe that they actually made a wiki article about it, but yeah, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi_Honey%2C_I%27m_Home "Hi Honey I'm Home."] People have explained the cliche as that it was a followup from the mentality of radio. On a radio show, a character can't just open a door and begin the conversation, because the audience can't see it. They have to open the door and say "hello, I'm home," often with the other characters saying "Why, look, it's XXX." --XXX

That's probly it then. [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 19:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Suplexing the Couger ==

The Odd thing about that is that I know of no suplex in which the head is downward facing.

All Suplexes I know, involve the heads of both te suplexer and the suplxee to be near to each other when the move is being done.

What stuffed-Strong Bad looks like he's doing is either a piledriver or perhaps a Powerbomb.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 01:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

: Take it from a long-time wrestling fan: what he's doing is indeed a suplex. German suplexes are done differently (with the head right-side up), but that's not what he's doing. Here's how it's done: with the person standing in front of you and facing you, bend them over and put their head under your arm. Grab the waist of their pants with the other arm and lift the person up over your head (they'll be upside down), then pretty much just fall back, making sure to cause as much impact between the other person's back and the ground as possible. This is what stuffed Strong Bad appears to be doing in his pose -- just starting to fall backwards. It's okay if the opponent's head is down by your side instead of by your own head; it's still a suplex. His back will just hit more on your shoulder than the ground. (Sorry if I didn't use proper terminology in this explanation.) -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 06:42, 16 March 2007 (EST)

== Jar Meniscus ==

Hey, should that be a Fun Fact or something? When Strong Sad is carrying Strong Bad (on the Taranchula scene) the meniscus in the water is still angled to the angle of the jar, rather than horizontal like it should. --[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 01:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:hey thanks, now I know what the word "meniscus" means. But I still don't see what you are talking about here. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 15:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:: The water is defying gravity, essentially. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::Ok, I see it now. The liquid should be level with the horizon to obey the laws of physics. I still dunno about "meniscus", that is the salt water tears of many heartbroken private school girls. Supposedly. {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:::'Meniscus' is just the scientific term for the top of the liquid, rather than what the liquid is. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Wouldn't that be more of a "goof" than a "remark?" [[User:69.218.185.245|69.218.185.245]] 20:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, it just seems like weird things that should be correct are more likely in trivia or fun facts, but hey, I'm new here. And yes, 'meniscus' is just the very top of the water. i.e. you look at the meniscus in a measuring cup or a test tube, per se, to find out how much is inside it. -- [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== The Plagues ==

Hordes of locusts and Famine? Isn't this a clear reference to the 10 plagues of Egypt in the first testament/torah? Or am I missing something? Did someone else catch this?--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 22:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:That's what came to mind when I heard it. [[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 03:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It might be, but those are not actually limited to biblical times: [[wikipedia:1915 locust plague|1915 locust plague]] and [[wikipedia:Famine|famine]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:27, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Locusts was one of the 10 plagues, famine was not. There was famine in Egypt, but that was during the time of Joseph, not Moses. The ten plagues were:
:::#Blood
:::#Frogs
:::#Lice
:::#Flies
:::#Animals dying of disease (there's no shorter way to translate it into English)
:::#Boils
:::#Hail and Fire
:::#Locusts
:::#Darkness
:::#Death of the firstborns
:::For more information see [[Wikipedia:Plagues of Egypt]] or, more directly, Exodus 7:14-12:36. But I don't think that by one of them appearing, especially one of the ones that commonly happens, you can say it's a clear reference, I don't think you can even say it's a reference at all. Maybe if it was about one of the less common ones and specifically mentioned all the water turning to blood, or hail that had fire in it, fine. It's like saying that since [[Blood|blood]] appears commonly in the HR universe, it's also a reference to the plagues. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 10:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:This is a reference to the book of Joel which speaks of "Hordes of locusts and Famine", you can read it online here: http://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1401.htm it's just four short chapters, and you only need to read the first one to get the point. [[User:89.139.134.185|89.139.134.185]] 11:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

==Book of Phone==

The first thing that came to mind when he said it that way was the [[Wikipedia: Book of Genesis|Book of Genesis]]. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

:So? It's obvious this is a Bible reference. Which book? There are many. It's [[TTATOT]] or explaining the joke, pick one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Moreover, Genesis usually isn't read at funerals; "Book of Psalms" or "Book of Lamentations" or something else would have fit better. But I think it's really just a broad Bible reference, and not notable. [[User:pensivepoet.babblingbard|pensivepoet.babblingbard]]

== Reotarded? ==

Hey, is anyone else thinking that Strong Bad is making a portmanteau of "leotard" and "retarded" to insult his brother?[[User:Coveredinharmony|Coveredinharmony]]

:You're definitely right. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::No, he's not. It's open to interpretation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Oh I sooo called this. Phlip, you were there, remember? No, "leotarded" is an actual word. If it was supposed to be a portmanteau, it would have been something more clever. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 12:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Yeah, but does that neccesarily mean it can't be a portmanteau too? I mean, "entrangled" is an actual word, but What I Want says it's a portmanteau. Plus it's a funny idea.
:::::I suggest you get your money back on that dictionary, as "entrangled" is not an English word. That leaves your argument that "it's a funny idea" which should never be a major consideration when considering a notable fact here. We are not here to be funny unless it works out that we can be while we are doing what we are here to do: document the work of TBC. "Entrangled" is simply not found anyplace except as a portmanteau in their work. "Leotarded" is not only a legitimate word, but the possible portmanteau is particularly insensitive, one I doubt TBC would use. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think you're thinking of 'entangled'. Like Qermaq says, 'entrangled' isn't a word. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

''entrangled'': '''adverb''' - in a state of entrang.

''entrang'': '''noun''' - I dunno, I think strongbad just made it up.
:It's simply [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entrangled not a word]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Is a similarity a reference??==

Apparently someone thinks strong bad's COOLogy is similar to some ask a ninja thing about pre-recording your final words. I've never seen AaN (so I could be mistaken), but your final words and your eulogy are not the same thing. Also, more importantly, this section is for REFERENCES, not similarities. Unless there's some particular characteristic that makes you think TBC have seen the AaN in question and were intentionally making a reference to it, this should be removed.[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 13:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:Many people have precorded last words. It's likely not a reference to anything (i it were, it'd be TTATOT) so I agree. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::I agree as well. Should it be STUFF'd, do you think? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 23:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say STUFF it, but I don't exactly know how to initiate that...([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 16:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC))
::::[[HRWiki:STUFF/Newpage]] has a step by step walkthrough of how to STUFF. By the way, I personally don't think it's a reference of any type, I just think it's Strong Bad being Strong Bad: creating cool, complex ways for simple, boring things. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 16:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I followed the walkthrough and started a STUFF page for it. I think I got it right, but this is my first time...[[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 18:00, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

== Wrong note in Chopin... ==

While Strong Bad has never been renowned for singing in tune, I transcribed his singing into these notes:

C---C---C-C---Eb---D-D---C-C---A-C

Well, I wouldn't expect the Brothers Chaps to know the exact key of the original march, but the notes from the main theme were originally: [http://www.imslp.org/index.php?title=Sonata_No.2_%28Chopin%2C_Frederic%29]

Bb---Bb---Bb-Bb---Db---C-C---Bb-Bb---Bb-Bb

As you can see, the second last interval is changed from a unison (tonic to tonic) to a minor third (submediant to tonic). I suppose it's forgivable, considering that a lot of the cartoon and pop culture references to Chopin's funeral march actually change the second last note to a leading tone (the note right below the tonic), but Strong Bad skips yet another tone down. Anyway, that's my music rant for the day.

~Stapler

:Cool, thanks for the analysis! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

== Pine-a for me-a ==

"Pining" is a reference to [[trevor the vampire]], is it not? I noticed that this was a trivia fact in Trogdor when Strong Bad says "I pine for you!"
: It's just a word. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
: PS. The reason it's mentioned for Trogdor is due to the ''way'' he says it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::It has been a while since he's used that phrase, and the way it's said seems to suggest a deliberate reference to his older incarnations. Among other things, the "pine-uh for me-uh" is a somewhat exaggerated way of using his old pseudo-Mexican accent ("I like-a to say, 'Holy crap!'"). Think that's got any merit to it? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Taxidoimied... Bugs Bunny reference? ==

When Strong Bad says "taxidoimied," I believe it is a reference to Bugs Bunny, who would quite often mispronounce words the same way by pronouncing the "er" in words as "oi" instead. And I can think of no other place he could've gotten that from. Anyone agree? -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 07:17 PM, March 16, 2007 (EST)
:It could be, but I'm tempted to say no. If it's used in places other than Bugs Bunny (and references of it), then probably not. If you can't find anything, it could be, but I'd wait for more responses. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 23:35, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:Where did Mel Blanc get that manner of speech? It's a Brooklyn accent. People in Brooklyn talk like that to this day. This is definitely not a direct reference to Bugs, as that would be TTATOT. It's just a funny pronunciation based on a well-known accent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::Absolutely. That accent existed long before Bugs was around. FWIW, Blanc claimed that he combined Brooklyn and Bronx accents to create the rabbit's voice. --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 04:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Absoloitly. Not a reference at oil! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Character Variation/Zombie Bad ==

With the character variation article, there's only the one form of strong bad zombie. I think there should be a second entry to cover the 2046 equivalent. [[User:220.245.178.139|220.245.178.139]] 05:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

:Well, the 2046 version of Strong Bad doesn't look any different than normal Strong Bad, other than that he's wearing tattered jeans, has a brain hat on, and is spitting out grape jelly. I'm pretty sure he's still alive there. So.. I don't really think he needs another entry. But.. that's just my opinion. {{User:Compgrl323/sig}} 01:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

::Of course he's still alive, he says that he hopes the zombies will still let him join their side. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes, it's not a variation. It's a costume and should be listed in [[Strong Bad Other Costumes]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Of course he was alive. His eyes were alive. At the two funerals in the emails, his eyes died and lost their greenness when he died. I'm positive they weren't closed because they still have their gradient and he can see with them. I think that might not even be 2046, just staged. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== 5 boom boxes, 1 tape ==

I can't believe no one else has mentioned this yet, but whats the deal with the 5 boom boxes apparently all playing in PERFECT synchronization. and secondly. that coach z breaks into all of them at the exact same time. That essentially means that he wouldve had to record over the original tape before strong bad made copies of it. Thirdly. only 1 of the 5 boomboxes lets u see the tape. Most if not all tape players let u see the tape, so u can tell if its going or not --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 06:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:Wouldn't it be a more simple explanation that he's got all 5 wired together to play off of one of the tape decks off one tape? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
::Assuming that those old-style boomboxes could even do such a thing - they werent exactly filled with ports and holes for cross-wiring - they all have the play button pushed down, or are saying "playin'" or something...
:::I have an old boom box from 1982 or so that has two sets each, in and out, of RCA jacks. It certainly wasn't top of the line, either. I used it as speakers for my first CD player, and I had to have Play mashed down for the audio to pass through. --Septyn, 18Mar07
:they all have a pause button though... suspension of disbelief!! {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::The wires are behind the boomboxes. Believe me, I checked. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::When you're talking about how the boomboxes are set up, how they were taped over, how they're in sync, etc... Just remember, one of the boomboxes is a ''cardboard box with stuff drawn on it''. Then keep the rest in perspective. Seriously. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Hair? ==

Is that pubic hair on the belly of the guy standing next to the Coughin' with the duck shirt?
:No, I'm sure it's intended to be belly hair — TBC work very hard to keep their toons PG. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::[[Wikipedia:Abdominal hair]] {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to be more scared by, the fact that that page exists, or that you found it and linked it, but its definitely belly hair [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 21:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Echo ==

How can you have an echo in an open field if there is nothing to reflect your voice off of? --18:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

You're in the wrong talk page. You want Drive-Thru. And I don't know why. --[[User:Homestar3.14|Homestar3.14]] 18:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== Taranchula ==

Shouldn't it be mentioned that Taranchula is a direct reference back to [[death metal]]? I mean, that's where they first appeared.
Ya know... when he started saying how he was going to do something different from Chopin, I thought for sure he was going to say Limozeen...
-Zero.exe
:Eh, it kinda goes without saying. And besides, this isn't even the first email that Taranchula has been mentioned in. -- [[User:ChurchPunk|ChurchPunk]] 12:35 AM, 24 March 2007 (EST)
:Yeah, actually, Taranchula was mentioned first in the same e-mail Limozeen was. Then again in the montage one (only breifly, their name was seen on a record). --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 02:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Drive-Thru

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==Pretend Reference??==
Strong Bad ordering a "Chateau Pretend" may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:François-René de Chateaubriand|François-René de Chateaubriand]], a French author/political figure from the 18-19th century. Strong bad uses the name in relation to food, and Chateaubriand was known for involvement in culinary arts.
:I think you're making the reference unnecessarily complicated. The way I see it, Chateau Pretend is a pretend wine. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::Lies. All lies. Clearly I'm the only one who knows how it all went down. Cast your mind back to [[car]], when Homestar gave a shout-out to Lemon Pretend. Whilst we can safely assume that within the fictional universe of Free Country, USA, Lemon Pretend is a type of pie, a search on Google turns back no recipies or even references to the existence of a Lemon Pretend pie (outside of the Homestar Runner reference, of course). It is through this method that I have come to the conclusion that the reference here is not a Real-World one, but one of the Inside demographic, and, as such, refers to the [[Strong Bad Email]] that usually goes by the name of "car". Thank you for your time. --[[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 12:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Um... I'm not all that convinced that having the word 'Pretend' in a foodstuff's name really qualifies it as an inside reference. Unless you can find a way of working Great Uncle Pawdabber's Pre-Tend Ice Cream Showdown into the reference somehow. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Considering the three instances of the word "[[Pretend]]" in three separate cartoons, this should be considered an Inside Joke and a page should be made for it. After all, we've made pages for [[All Is On|less]]. --[[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 18:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::It doesn't have to be a reference to be funny. Pawdabber's ice cream is pretend because it's really just sour cream and The Cheat fur. Chateau Pretend is pretend because the only real part of the restaurant is a cardboard box. There's nothing notable about Strong Bad using a regular English word to mean the same thing on two occasions. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 19:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::Most likely a reference to [[Wikipedia:Château Latour|Château Latour]], considering he orders a bottle of it.
:::::::Agreed. Chateaubriand is a real stretch. [[User:JudahNielsen|JudahNielsen]] 22:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::::''My'' first thought was that the wine was a tad [[Glossary#P|pretendous]]. [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Name that Tune ==

Gah... The tune the whale plays is ''extraordinarily'' familiar. I just can't place it, for the life of me. It's very frustrating. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


:It sounds really familar to me to. It's really annoying. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::It reminds me a LOT of the music from one of the towns in [[Wikipedia:Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door|Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:36, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::I think I've got it! It's the first few notes of the music that plays in Koopa Village in the original [[Wikipedia:Paper Mario|Paper Mario]]! Nailed it! [[:Image:Crappy Speaker Song.ogg|Compare]] the [[:Image:Koopa Village.ogg|two]]. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Those two don't sound that similar to me... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::The key may be a bit off. The tune seems similar to me, though. I very may well be tone-deaf. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Here's another idea [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Drive-Thru&diff=431666&oldid=431665 that was proposed]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>The tune that the drive-thru whale plays appears to be the first few notes from the theme song for the television show ''Night Court''.</blockquote>
After listening to [http://youtube.com/watch?v=7pod-uZH8s8 the theme from Night Court], I think they're similar, but different. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it's from a game, possibly one on this site? (doubt it) - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 13:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Call me weird, but to me it sounds somewhat similar to the title screen themes in the Pokemon games. -Sumgirl

I think it's the beat that makes it familiar, rather than the tune. The beat is more or less the same as the [[Everybody Knows It]] song. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 17:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

TSSG3: When you try to match the two up, [[:Image:Speaker Song BW Koopa Village.ogg|even when you're nice]] to the beats, you don't get much of a hit. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 20:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Isn't it the chorus from the Gorillaz track "Dirty Harry"?

:I looked it up and it matches pretty well. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

It's not Paper Mario, I have that game, or Night Court (I looked it up on YouTube). [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't know, I'm pretty convinced by Night Court. The groove is different, but the melodic contour is the same. Both songs start on Bb, move through a major chord (w/ ornamentation) to rest briefly on F, peak on Ab, and descend by way of G and F. The crappy-speaker song is more or less what you'd get if you took Night Court, changed the tempo, set it to a different beat, and changed some of the little in-between notes. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]]

For the musically challenged: [[:Image:Drive-Thru Tune.png]]. The real tune from the toon, the Koopa Village tune that TSSG3 posted, Night Court pulled from some MIDI I found on the net, and Dirty Harry, from me, since I own that one... all shifted to start on C, so they're easier to compare. They're don't really seem all that similar to me... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

The 2nd half of the song is identical for all intents and purposes to night court and the first half is 'similar' -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 03:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It sounds a little Daytime TV to me, and it's said right after the word Password...does anyone know what the theme to that gameshow was? I've been trying to YouTube it for a few minutes...actually something in the background could have been it. I'll keep searching. There's 4 themes, I can find...one. Just a thought, probably nothing. ~ Shadix

The tune reminds me a bit of the music from the first level of the NES game Mappy Land.. but is slightly different. --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 05:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Which in turn was a lyricless version of "This little light of mine". The whales song does sound similar.{{User:Sesshoumaru Cian/sig}}

The instrument sounds extremely similar to keyboard-headed-Strong Bad's keyboard, and considering its association with the Drive-thru Whale, it might make sense, seeing as it's very similar to what one may expect from Sweet Cuppin' Cakes. --[[User:199.94.78.180|199.94.78.180]] 16:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

It sounds like a sped up version of the 'living in the gutter with grandma' song to me. [[User:202.72.133.195|202.72.133.195]] 00:12, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Noone's gotten this yet? Maybe you guys need to buy more playsets and toys!™ (hint, hint) {{unsigned|64.112.196.145|01:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)}}
:If you're implying that it's the [[Cheat Commandos]] theme, then: no. It's not even remotely similar. It's nothing like the [[SBLOUNSKCHED!]] jingle, either... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I figured it was the ''Night Court'' theme mainly because it works about the same way as Homestar's beanie: it plays the music when the thingie on top is in motion. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 05:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:The only thing this discussion is showing is that this probably isn't based off of any actual song at all. I've heard all of the above-mentioned tunes, and I seriously doubt it's any of them. In my opinion, it was just a small jingle and nothing more. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 19:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Another thing it's kinda similar to but not really: the breakdancing rodent in [[isp]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:Unfortunately for me, the tune reminds me of a less crappy version of Robbie Williams' "Lovelight". I doubt that TBC would have such terrible taste in music. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== Distorted speaker ==

The lines Strong Bad hears as "Sever your leg", I hear that the speaker is saying "Serve to your right", or something similar... and, {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Drive-Thru&diff=431603&oldid=431600 like Shwoo}}, I hear "seventh window". The others I hear the same as SB, but I wouldn't be surprised if I'm mishearing any or all of these... what do you think? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:I distinctly heard "seventh window" too, even before there was a transcript. I stand with "sever your leg", though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:I can't really hear "serve to your right". There's no t sound. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::It's confirmed in the New Stuff section. The description is "Sever your leg, please, sir." --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Not really, the toon description there could be quoting SB, it was one of the funny lines in the toon after all... Oh well, ''{waits patiently for QotW}''. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I heard "serve to your right" the first time I watched it, but after listening it to a few more times, I hear "sever your leg". "Seventh window" is definetely correct. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 13:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::In terms of the window, I almost hear "south window". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 15:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::I hear "sever your leg" and that's all I hear. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It tells the lobster to sever its leg, or whatever it really said, and the lobster severed its leg...

I hear "steve turn around to the seventh window"
I absolutely hear "steve turn around to the seventh window" as well -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 03:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

The distorted speaker also reminded me of the ones from [[what I want]]. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:It totally is! Those nobots are also referred to as having "drive-thru stereo." [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 16:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I hear "the lake head". In all seriousness, I think TBC actually said "sever your leg" because they don't want people thinking that it's anything else.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 09:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Jeeves ==

Reginald Jeeves is a character created by P.G. Wodehouse who appears in a number of short stories and novels. In the literature, Jeeves works as the valet of Bertie Wooster. Due to the popularity of the series, the name Jeeves is frequently used in popular culture to refer to chauffeurs, butlers, and waiters. [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 14:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:[[TTATOT]]. Jeeves is a common servant name, and this almost certainly doesn't reference any specific one. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 06:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::What in blazes is a "common servant name"? Household staff use their own names; they aren't given names by their employers. Wodehouse's Jeeves is the prototype upon which all later Jeeves were based. As Spiderbaby said, Wodehouse was (and still is) very popular. Do you also say that referring to a humbug cheapskate as a Scrooge is TTATOT? --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 21:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Wodehouse invented Jeeves, therefore, any reference to Jeeves is a reference to Wodehouse, or at the very least a reference to the trend begun by Wodehouse--[[User:Sir Vimes|Sir Vimes]] 22:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

'''This fact is currently being voted on in [[STUFF:Drive-Thru|STUFF]]. Please discuss over there, not here. Thanks'''

==Whale speaker==

What fast food place has a whale for its speaker? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 15:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
: Invisible ones? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I think the trend of having the order speaker/mic live inside of a mascot started with Jack-in-the-box, which used to have the speaker/mic inside a clown's mouth. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 18:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== That was...odd. ==

I don't really see what this short was about... --[[User:Das654|Das654]] 16:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:That was my initial reaction too. You can talk more about it at the forum instead of here, please. There's a nice link to the thread at the bottom of Drive-Thru. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 16:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::As I propose below, I think its about something that was on cable on March 18th. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 19:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

==Echo==

*Is the echo becoming a running gag? That is, an echo where there wouldn't normally be one? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:18, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
**Only other instance I could find by searching the wiki for "echo" was in [[4 branches]]. But it is a running gag in [[wikipedia:Rosencrantz_and_Guildenstern_Are_Dead| Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead]]. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 19:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
***It's an echo. Couldn't possibly be a running gag unless the website was called "Echo-Star Echoes.com". An echo where there's no thing for the sound waves to be is a common animation technique used in many shows. No running gag. ~Strong Devon(not signed in)

== Pro-awesome ==

I hear "'''B'''ro-awesome". I don't know what that means, but I don't hear a "P" sound. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
: And, while on the subject, I don't hear "Steer your car around" either, though in that case I'm kinda unsure ''what'' I'm hearing. I think part of it is "turn around" though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with Bro-awesome, but I hear "Stee your car around" which just sounds like the whale didn't pronounce the R very clearly, and I can't imagine what else that would be. --SamuraiMoose
::Yup, I definitely hear bro. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah. I hear 'bro-awesome', no question about it. [[User:Yadaman|Yadaman]] 13:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I vote 'bro' as well--[[User:Sir Vimes|Samwise]] 23:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Another '''b'''ro guy, here. I agree completely. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 21:29, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::But "pro-awesome" makes more sense, if you ask me. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 01:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Since when has H*R made sense? Wouldn't "Strong Sad/Mad, there's ketchup on the computer!" Make more sense than "[[funny|Aunt Ruthie! Aunt Ruthie! There's ketchup on the computer!]]", seeing as there's no one named Aunt Ruthie? *cough* anyway, put your ear up to the speaker, and it's "Bro". I thought it meant something like showing how SB and Teh C are bros, or something. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 01:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== a blue one? ==

Strong Bad says "how 'bout a blue one for my little friend"; does this seem to anyone else like a possible reference to Strong Sad's "the blue ones"? [[User:66.251.25.205|66.251.25.205]] 18:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:I thought about that too, but I think it's a coincidence — there's nothing else to tie the two together. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:It's a fluke, there's no connection.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 21:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:It did occur to me as well. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

::I thought it was a reference to [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] where everyone drink colored ones. But The Cheat drink a red one and bubs the blue one. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:I think it is, personally. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 07:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Y'know what I think? This is '''totally''' not a ref, but when I heard that, for some reason I thought it was a nod to The Matrix! You know, with the whole, red pill/blue pill thing. {{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 19:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::That ''might'' have been plausible had the alternative been red instead of brown, but even then it would have been a major stretch. Personally, I don't think it's either of these. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 21:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:Obviously none of you have ever worn blue boxer shorts underneath your trousers, or you would know this is clearly not a reference.
::How are those two statements connected? I'm confused. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

== Rocket Sound ==

Hey, the sound for The Compressor sounds a lot like Bubs's pumpkin from the [[Pumpkin Carve-nival|Carve-nival]]. [[User:71.192.94.44|71.192.94.44]]

:Yeah, I suppose it does. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 21:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Actual reference to what was on TV last night? ==

My little brother informs me that he saw something on cable yesterday concerning the potential for real lobsters on Europa. I want to put together a more solid reference than "my little brother told me"--for instance the name of the show and even better, the episode. Anybody know a good way to find out what was on TV last night? Or maybe someone saw the show and can remember what it was called? [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 19:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it was Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, the episode "Guess WHAT'S Coming to Dinner?" Chaos!

== Fun with Facts ==
"Sperm whales are not known to eat lobsters, Europa-pean or otherwise." To this I'd like to add "Drive through speakers are not known to eat anything, or have a hidden Europan-lobster-powered rocket, or stand out in the middle of a field where no restaurant has ever been or ever will be. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 19:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. That "fun fact" isn't much fun at all. It was probably just some weird, bizarre ending TBC came up with. It had nothing to do with the mascot being a whale.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 19:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:Whoever first wrote this article must have been desperate for "fun" facts and "trivia", because some of them seem pretty weak.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 21:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:: Yeah, what the crap was that about? *mumble*... {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}} 00:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:::It seems to me just a way to get rid of the whale and not have to show it in the field in any future toons.--[[User:Sir Vimes|Samwise]] 23:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Reference? ==

Just looking at the article of the day, I think the table in the easter egg is the top of the [[Jail|jail]]. Anyone else? - {{User:HeyMama/sig}}
:Looks like the same box to me. ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 23:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC))
::The shading is different in a few spots, it doesn't have "JAIL" or "A BOX" or the bars, but is clearly based on that box. If you view the .swf file in something like media player classic, or directly in the browser, and resize the window so you can see further below on the box.. and flip it horizontally.. it does share features. Overall shape, and most shading. --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 02:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Do we really need the "300 ft. equals 100 yd...." under the trivia section? It's not really needed, and it's got nothing to do with anything. Also, did anyone else think that this was a little more... "outlandish" than usual?--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 20:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:No, I think that part could be left out. The kilometers could be left in, as there are some Wiki Users from "across the pond."--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 02:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:And just north of you. <.< --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}}

== Extra Sauce? ==
When Strong Bad orders, he asks for extra sauce. In Strongest Man in the World, Homestar tells Pom-Pom to "Pour on that extra sauce" when they're training. Possible inside reference?
:I don't think so. [[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 22:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

::I'm pretty sure this is a coincidence, especially because a lot of "specials" include some kind of sauce. It's a common thing to order extra sauce. Plus, I'm pretty sure he said "extra-size," mispronouncing exercise. --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 02:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Actually, I guess the transcript does say "extra sauce." But I still think it's a total coincidence. --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 03:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Weird Al Reference? ==

I saw that Weird Als music video for "Trapped In The Drive-Thru" was released on Myspace Video yesterday. Reference?

:First of all, SIGN YOUR NAME!!!! And, second, yeah, when I saw the title, I thought, "Hey, is this a ref to "TitDT?" It MIGHT be a reference, just MIGHT. I '''do''' think it's too simalar sounding to be a coincidence...I mean, TWO videos about a drive-thru in, like, 1 1/2 days??!?!?! What do all a y'all think??? -{{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 00:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

::First of all, NO SHOUTING!!!! :-p Well, considering that it takes TBC about a day and a night to animate a sbemail (I think they said that in an interview), and that this toon is much shorter than recent sbemails, it's definitely possible. But it would have required them to see the video as soon as it was released, drop the toon/sbemail they were working on, come up with an idea in no time and start working on the animation immediately. And for all that effort, there is no clear reference to the Weird Al video in this toon (as far as I can see). So yes, it's possible, but highly unlikely. Definitely a stretch.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:::A stretch, but ''exactly'' what I my brother and I thought when we saw the title of the toon, knowing the Weird Al video was out the same day. :) --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 20:28, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Loafing: In a normal case, I'd agree with you. But look closely at the animation. It looks rushed, like it was made in a hurry. (i.e. The Cheat's eyes) Didn't you notice? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 21:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'll put it up as a remark. If anyone objects, just delete it. {{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 19:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Speed to Europa ==

:''For the rocket to have traveled the minimum distance of 628,089,000 kilometers (390,276,411 miles, 4.2AU) to Europa and back in the 1:30 between the rocket's launch and its landing, it must have traveled at an average speed exceeding 23 times the speed of light.''
I moved this here from the article, since we have several precedents of moving calculations to the talk page. (See [[Talk:A Folky Tale#Physics|Talk:A Folky Tale → Physics]] for an example.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
: For reference, I ''would'' like to note that the calculation is more than possible, as there are is no "lost time" between the rocket's launch and landing (ie. no cuts where time would have elapsed.) And I think it's worth noting on the main page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I note that this calculation doesn't take the [[Wikipedia:Theory of Relativity|Theory of Relativity]] into account. If it did, the rocket would return a long time before it left. — [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 14:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Going too far? ==

Ok, is this just strange? [http://www.sae.org/technical/papers/2003-01-2586 Europa and Lobster connection, not the arctic connection.]

== Metaverse Ponderances ==

Is it just me, or is the Homestar Runner universe in general getting more and more incoherent, surreal and disorganised? I've noticed a trend in recent months towards the characters becoming more and more delusional, and the situations they find themselves in less and less comprehensible. Is something akin to the virus outbreak (albeit slower and on a less noticable level) happening again? -- Andreus 18:48, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:It could be a lead up to the [[montage|inkjet era]], and how [[Strong Bad]]'s printer will break, seemingly beginning with [[Strong_Bad_Email|Strong Bad Email]] 173. {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

::Well, TBC haven't always been entirely truthful with their references. [[personal favorites]] (sbemail #69) comes to mind. none of those emails ever existed. --[[User:Sir Vimes|SHH]] 23:00, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:::That was Strong Bad personally "[[History_according_to_Strong_Bad|dwelling]]" on past experiences. This is a prediction done by a non-Strong Bad sourse that seems to be sober, or at least moreso than Strong Bad is or says he is by all his references to [[Cold_One|cold ones]]. {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

:Also, don't forget [[dangeresque 3]]. TBC will probably just joke about it if people are really expecting something. I doubt that the Paper would get retired, though.--[[User:CertifiedArborist|CertifiedArborist]] 20:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Why the first rocket launch fizzled ==

I tried to add this to the reference, but it was reverted.

The reason the rocket performed so poorly when Strong Bad first attempted to launch (without the compressOR) it was that he forgot to fill it half full of water. For those familiar with the toy water rockets in question, they behaved exactly that way without the water in them. Seems like everything I contribute gets immediately reverted. Sort of makes it not worth the attempt. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 21:30, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:Nsayer, I am the one who reverted it because, A: if you look through the redd transparent plastic, you can see water bubbling, and B: it's still not notable. As for your edits being reverted, we always appreciate well-intended contributions, even if they do have to be removed. Please do not get discouraged. Most of my early edits were reverted also. You will get better with time. I will admit I tend to be a bit more conservative on facts than some others, and for that I am sympathetic. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 21:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:: I looked really close and didn't see any water bubbling, and lacking water makes these rockets do *exactly* what Strong Bad's did. As for notability, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 22:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
::: I saw bubbles at the top of the rocket while SB's pumping it. (*shrugs*) --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 01:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::::I definitely see some bubbling while he's pumping. ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 13:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC))
:::::Even so (I must still be missing them), no water shoots out of the rocket when it "lifts off". [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 15:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:::::I've gotta side with Nsayer here; I definately don't see any bubbles. {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}
:::::Definitely bubbles. Watch again when he pumps, change the html to swf for a better view [[User:CrankyPants|CrankyPants]]

== Steve Drive Around... ==

Okay, when the whale says what is currently transcribed as "Steve, drive around to the seventh window", I'm actually hearing "'''Stay dry around to the seventh window'''". Anyone else hearing that?

The possibilities that I've seen so far (that I'm aware of - feel free to add) are:
* "Please drive around to the seventh window"
* "Steve, drive around to the seventh window"
* "Stay dry around to the seventh window"
* "Steer your car around to the seventh window"

{{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:I just listened to this part of the toon closely for the first time, and I (independently) asked someone if there was a discussion anywhere about it. Without any knowledge of what was in the transcript, I asked: "I hear ''''Steve drive around...'''' ... Is that one of the choices?" So that gets my vote. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

::I hear The second one and possibly the first. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:::What I actually hear is "Stee turn around to..." As I don't believe "Stee" is a word, I'm thinking it's probably "Steve" or some other word. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Upon the first 13 listenings, I heard "steve, drive", but after slowing it down and listening to it with noise removal, I heard "please drive". [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 22:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, a nice opportunity to show you all what I showed to DeFender. [http://the-mu.net:8080/stevecararound.ogg Slowed down and noise removal'd.] ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 22:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:::::Well, I can't open .ogg files, but I heard "Steve, dry around to the seventh window." <s>Hang tight and do not respond while I put it through my own noise filter. (I'll be back in 1-6 minutes)</s>
:::::Done! And I heard time and time again, "Steve, dry around to the seventh window." If you could convert that .ogg to a .mp3, .wav, .wma, .flac, or .dmse, I could hear it and pass judgement with an unbias oppinion. {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

I heard "Steve" the second or third time around. At any rate it definitely sounded like it started with "S," whatever it was. I don't think it was "please." Mighta been "Steer your car around" but it sounds more like "Steve turn around" to me. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 05:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:I heard "Please". But that could just be my ears deciding what to hear for me because it works so well in context. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:I heard "Steve *turn* around..." [[User:Gus|Gus]] 17:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[http://the-mu.net:8080/stevecararound.mp3 Here it is in MP3 format.] Before you make any conclusions, please listen to this file. It may not clear up the confusion between "steve" and "steer", but you can definitely hear a "c" sound in "car" as opposed to a "d" as in "drive." ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 19:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
:Sorry, no. I can't hear "car" even when I'm listening specifically for it. After multiple listenings, filtered and unfiltered I still hear a "St" sound at the beginning of the first word (so it's not "please") and the second word still sounds like "drive". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:29, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::I hear "'''Steve, drive around to the seventh window'''", with little ambiguity. Yes, it doesn't make sense to include "Steve", but a lot of the other things that crazy whale says don't make sense either. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Congratulations, trainer! Your "The Cheat" evolved! ==

Doesn't anyone noticed that The Cheat looks a litte bit different? His eyes and "beak/nose" seem different. Anybody noticed that? {{User:Darkangel/sig}}
::I don't see anything. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
:::The eyes ''were'' further over a lot of the time, but that's because he was looking to the right a lot. This has happened a few times in past toons and emails; it was just more common here. It's nothing too noteworthy. As for the voice, ''all'' of the characters' voices have changed at one time or another throughout the course of the series. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 06:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

==Sweet Cuppin' Cakes==

Doesn't the whale somewhat resemble the cow-hellicopter from Sweet Cuppin' Cakes? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
:Sherlock does appear to have more in common with whales than cows or helicopters (but then, most things have more in common with those than Sherlock). But any connection between the two is entirely speculation. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Echo II: Echo-lectric Boogaloo ==

Here's a deleted remark that's at least interesting. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>When Strong Bad shouts at the drive-thru whale about being isolated in the middle of the field, his voice echoes even though there is nothing else in the field for the sound of his voice to bounce off of.</blockquote>
:I was the one that deleted it, and this is the reason: the speed of sound is exactly 769.5 miles per hour. An echo can bounce off of an object over 5 miles away given the proper conditions. Even during the two or three pan-outs of the field, there was simply no way to be certain that there was nothing for the echo to resound off of. We've also seen numerous buildings in Free Country, USA, any one of which could have been just out of our range of vision. In addition, even if it were true, the echo was made for comedic effect, as in many TV shows, movies, and cartoons. It's really no more noteworthy than say... Homsar's feet making a silly sound when he walks. Sure, that wouldn't normally happen, but it's a cartoon. Incidentally, thanks for taking this to the discussion page in order to clear this up. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 07:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
::On a different tack, the echo effect is clearly post-production to enhance the "surrounded by nothing" notion. It's obviously not even notable that the echo can or can't exist in this instance as its use is clearly dramatic, not realistic. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Zelda reference? ==

I know it's a it of a stretch, but could the whale flying away at theend be a reference to those time telling eye-rocks in zelda: Majora's Mask?-Ashley

:Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about — those things are creepy! They launch when you hit them with the hammer or blow them up with a bomb, or something, right? Probably a coincidence, but interesting connection! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::Kinda reminded me of one of flying enemies in level 1 of Ghosts N Goblins, but I agree with Trey... stupid coincidence magazine. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 11:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't see the connection. (And BTW, they're in [[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|Ocarina of Time]] as well.) ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 20:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

what this reminds me of, though its nothing to do with zelda, is the Lunar Whale from Final Fantasy V that carries characters from earth to the moon. Could it be a reference to that instead? (or a reference to both?)

::The Big Whale is from Final Fantasy 4, not 5, BTW. Kind of a stretch, either way, though... -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it was a reference to anything. I think it was just supposed to be some kind of alien pod sent to get food, in the same manner Strong Bad sent the toy rocket to get Lobsters. -[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 00:14, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

== severed limbs ==

Personally, I believe that the "sever your leg" comment is an inside joke. It is another reference to severed limbs. There should probably be a page for it.

You be the judge:

In the email "cliffhangers," Lappy has a "severed little toe," ie the comma. In "Halloween Potion-ma-jig" Pom Pom pulls out a severed toe to add to Homestar's potion. There's always the many references to Strong Sad's severed head. And, Strong Bad's severed head when he was commenting on the costumes, although I'm not sure which one it was. And Coach Z, at one point, thought he found Biscuitdoughhandsman's severed hand.

I'm not sure if there are any more. Those are the ones I could think of.

I hope this warrants a sub-category. If not, no worries. It was just a thought.

:Now that you mention it, severed body parts have come up alot... do they already have a page? Let me check. If not, we should put one up.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 19:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, like in [[Peasant's Quest]] where you can [[Peasant%27s_Quest_Responses#T|try]] to [[Peasant%27s_Quest_Responses#C|cut off your arms, legs, and head]], or in [[disconnected]] where he separates his head from his body, or in [[virus]] where [[Bubs]] used [[Homestar Runner]]'s severed leg for a shotgun (and in the [[virus#Easter Eggs|easter egg]] where [[Fightgar]] uses it as an automatic laser gun). Or those countless uses of [[Strong Sad]]'s severed head. Or even way back in [[some kinda robot]] where he says "Do you take off your face and hands before you go to bed?" {{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

:::You might should add them to [[Severed Body Parts|the page]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:09, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::::Thanks so much. I'm new to this, or I would have done that myself [[Mgkish742]]

== Wallpaper ==

I've made a wallpaper for this cartoon, you can get it at [http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4379/sbdrivethru1024cj4.png] - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 14:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Talk:keep cool

Chupaqueso — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:47:58 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* strong mad-nami */

==DS?==

What do you suppose Homestar's marking as "ds" means? I can think of one that's not family friendly, but other options? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:My guess is on Dumb Star, or something like that. He previously called Homestar that in an email, I think, but I am not sure. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I'm guessing it's a reference to the Nintendo DS. It has been shown again and again that TBC are Nintendo fans. At least, the DS was what I first thought of when I saw that. My two cents. {{User:Alcnolien/sig}} 20:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:::It's almost certainly "duckshirt." That's pretty much a synonym for Homestar, and in [[flashback]], SB uses "Duckshirt" as Homestar's name. [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 20:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I concur: Duckshirt is the answer. [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 14:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yea, I'd have to say duck shirt, it fits better than the other options. [[User:Vash Lupin VI|Vash Lupin VI]] 20:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Maybe it's just the "sb" on the Strong Bad cutout mirrored. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}}
::If that's the case then the "s" would be backwards.
:When I first saw it, it seemed like the "ds" was just a (poor) phonetic spelling of "this". He IS saying that as he cycles through the images. Not everything needs to be a reference! :P This simply seems like a bit of overthinking to me. 16:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, not everything needs to be a reference, but all the other labels are names or nicknames. It's not overthinking if things like it are obviously references.[[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Dosent DS mean Dip Sh**? I remember that from my elemntary school years.--{{User:Finest1/sig}} 12:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:I personally thought Nintendo DS. But duck shirt seems like the best choice. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
Foxtrotblues]] 23:09, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, when I saw it I was like "Oh, Dual Screen" but then, why would they do that? I think it's agreed that it stands for duckshirt {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 01:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Baseball reference ==

Strongsad's Easteregg mentioning Baseball could be a reference to the MLB Trade Deadline (which ends in 20 minutes)
:Doubtful - TGS11 had a baseball ref too. I think TBC just like baseball. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== Sticklyman's Return! ==
No running, no diving, and no swimming; All represented by the pudding-shoveler himself! --[[User:207.69.139.8|207.69.139.8]] 19:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah, but are you sure it's Sticlyman? Does he have a shovel? Is he into light fighting? Or maybe he's just the typical guy-on-a-sign stick man. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:I hate you. My hopes and dreams rise up and you cruelly shoot them down with your harsh words. I will have my revenge, jerk! --[[User:207.69.139.8|207.69.139.8]] 20:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::That was kind'a rude, Qermac, but I suspect a block-in-progress, Mr. IP {{User:Stongbah/sig}} 21:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:::There was nothing rude about what Qermaq said. He was just making the facts obvious.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::::In a somewhat funny way too. I don't think it's sticklyman. Although I'd like to see him return for another challeeeeenge one day!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::Don't block the IP. It's real hard to express sarcasm on the 'net; it might have been a sarcastic remark. On that note, I think Stinkoman killed Sticklyman. --[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== no clicky on the lappy ==

when you click the lappy's screen, the pressure waves don't show up.

:Sure they do. I just did it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

::They don't show up after Strong Bad falls through the roof. --[[User:Ragey|Ragey]] 22:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== Up, A, and Start ==

Does this reference any particular video game? If it were just Up+A, I'd be sure it was a reference to Metroid or both Legend of Zelda games on the NES (using that code on a second controller would save your progress and restart) but I can't think of any games that used Up+A and Start. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 20:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:You are almost certainly right. In fact, the Up+A on the second controller trick only works when you have paused (pressed start) on the first controller. I'm going to add it to the real-world references section. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:58, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think it refers to any video game, he's just making up a cheat code. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 22:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I agree with Swimma Dan. The Metroid and Zelda references don't make sense because you have to press Start before hand. That's not Up, A, Start, that's Start, A, Up. And if we're going to accept Kirby's Dream Land, where it's Up, A, Select, then are we going to accept codes that go Up, B, Start, or Down, A, Start, or A, Up, Start? Unless someone can find a game code that goes exactly "Up, A, Start", I think this should be changed to a more general reference about video game codes. [[User:70.224.249.166|70.224.249.166]] 00:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Agreed, I figured it was just a generic cheat code thing, not a reference to a specific game. The Zelda reference might make sense, but I think the Kirby one is really stretching it (it's not even the same code!). As for the Metroid thing, I'm probably going to make myself sound really stupid here, but didn't Metroid use ''passwords'', not save files? At least the US version did. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 01:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Metroid did use passwords, Mr. Saturn. However, if you paused and hit Up+A on Controller 2, you would get brought to the password screen, and you can restart the game from there. I've seen this trick in the various tool-assisted speedruns of the game. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 04:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'd have to agree with the Generic Game Code people. We could make a poll though {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::Another point in favor of a reference to the Zelda games and Metroid is that it fits the context. In the games, you would want to save your progress using this trick before you went in to a dungeon or some place where you might die. In the toon, Strong Bad urges swimmers who have just eaten to do this before they reenter the pool, presumably so that if they died they could start again from the point right before entering the pool. If I'm not mistaken, that's part of the joke SB's making. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"If they died they could start again"? I don't see that at all. To me, it sounds like he's just adding something ridiculous onto a list of other ridiculous things. I agree that if TBC were referencing those games, they would have said "Start, A, Up." I think it's just general. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:18, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Well, I think there's enough of a consensus here to remove the fact in question. Oh well :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Long Pants? ==

Is it me, or is Homestar wearing his 'long pants' in the 'ool? (~InvaderJem)
:According the Strongbad, he doesn't have [[long pants]]. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::True, but that's why I put quote-marks. Homestar insists that he wears long pants, though...
:::What are you getting at? {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 20:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Since his "long pants" are really just his bare skin, what else would he be wearing in the pool? It's not like he can take ''that'' off. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 21:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I guess that's true.
::::::Yeah, do you take off your leg skin when you go swimming? And if so, are you some kind of robot? And if so, do you use your powers for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces? I just happen to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. -[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pooling ==

How about the fact that the "pool" had been previously mentioned here [http://www.homestarrunner.com/hs6.html]

:I think that might pass off as a fun fact. Nice find, there! (~InvaderJem)
::See [[Swimming Pool]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

It seems more likely to be the pool from [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].
:Was there not also a pool mentioned in [[other days]], when Strong Bad had swim practice? Apparently he's finished them as well as lifeguard training since then. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::[[other days]] doesn't directly mention a pool, but where else would Strong Bad and Strong Sad have swim practice?{{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}}
:::They had a pool back in [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] and [[Theme Song Video]]. [[User:75.22.195.241|75.22.195.241]] 02:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::The Color Pallette in the backdrop of the 'ool is similar to the older cartoons, too. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::Color palette? Huh? Anyway, [[Swimming Pool]] mentions all the above. That's the place for pool sightings. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Mr. Chek(h)ov ==

I'm pretty sure this is a double reference to both the writer and the Star Trek character. Yeah, they're spelled differently, but who ever calls Anton Chekhov "Mr. Chekhov"? However, Kirk did call his Chekov "Mr." all the time...
:It's not going to be TTATOT. If they were referencing Star Trek, they'd have spelled it Chekov. They didn't, so I doubt it's a ST reference at all, especially as Chekhov is even more famous. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Not only that, but Anoton Chekhov is someone Strong Sad would be reading. It's Strong Sad. I mean, come on.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes. Obviously, Strong Sad would read Chekhov. So it's a reference to the author. But nobody calls Anton Chekhov "Mr.". That is obviously (I think) a reference to the Star Trek character. It's a joke. And I think that it's worth putting in the explanation because many people won't know what it's about. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I removed the Chekov reference based on points above. It's this, that and the other thing if it's a reference to both. And it's spelled like the author, not the navigator, so it's clear which was being referenced. Now, IF "Mr. Chekov" is included, I can live with it, but not without. Otherwise it's like saying that Monkey D is a reference to Sunny D, Tenacious D and Sandra Dee. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC) (Add: And by "living with it" I am saying I still don't agree, but can let it go. But we're a bit too generous in claiming what's a reference around here. Without an explanation of why "Mr. Chechov" might be referring to a guy with a differently-spelled name, it seems out of place and random, and reduces the knowledge-base-ness of the page.)
:Nice, we were working on it at the same time... I reckon "Mr. Checkov" is simply such an iconic name that "Mr. Chekhov" is an obvious reference for someone who knows Star Trek. And there have been made enough ST references by TBC that I believe they do know ST. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yup; sorry Qermaq, but I gotta disagree with you on this one. If it's not a reference, it's a goof, and I'd like to think they know how to spell it. Plus, suppose they were simply thinking of Chekhov, and Chekov never entered their minds; why choose the "Mr." title? It's a strange choice for an anthology or biography. And it would be a stranger coincidence for it to mirror the Star Trek usage accidentally. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Nah, I don't think this is a goof. Chekhov sounds like the kind of stuff that Strong Sad was reading. He doesn't strike me as the type who reads Star Trek anthologies. Anyway, the way the fact is written now, everybody can make up their own mind. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Progressive progress ==

Is anyone still currently working on the transcript? When I stopped, I took the "inprogress" template off... If whoever's working on it now is going really slowly, that's one thing, but it's kinda rude to leave the template there and just stop. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== The school aways had an elevator! ==

Is anyone else thinking that this particular line might be a reference to Saved by the Bell? Specifically, that time the school suddenly had an elevator for Zack to deliver Mr. Belding's son in? - [[User:81.157.53.124|81.157.53.124]] 21:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

--I think it is a refrence to that, and many other TV shows where the charecters go to a second floor, basement, pool, etc.

Or, maybe it was like my school, where there was no elevator, and there was no swimming pool, but all the freshman were sold swimming pool passes and elevator passes by the upperclassmen.
::It makes more sense that it was the Saved by the Bell episode, because it's referring to how their cartoon and the TV show suddenly and conveniently had something that was never obviously there before for sake of the plot.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::However: they '''have''' always had this pool. Since one of the very first animated toons. So the analogy doesn't really apply, does it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that's true. I'd say maybe TBC forgot, but if you go to the flash file for Theme Song Video and look at how they did the water effect, it looks like the same piece makes up the wavy top of the water in both toons. *shrug* It makes more sense the way I said it. lol. I'm not really sure on this.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Someone, perhaps anonymous above, added a Fun Fact linkin SB's line to a supposedly common prank by upperclassmen of making freshmen believe in nonexistant pools or elevators. I left it alone simply because I can't think of another way to make sense of his line, but at the moment it's a purely anecdotal Fun Fact. If it's going to stay, it would be nice to have some kind of documentation showing that this has happened to more than one person. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::When I saw it, I immediately thought of Saved By The Bell. I've been watching the sbemails for a long time, and I hadn't remembered the pool. Even if they remembered that it was there, the average viewer has never heard of them having a pool, so for SB to say that the pool's always there and they use it all the time seems on par with suddenly announcing Bayside had an elevator, and it's been there all along and people use it all the time.

:I, for one, have heard of this prank as far back as sixteen years ago, and when I first heard it in junior high it was presented as something that had been making the rounds for quite a while. When we got to high school, we always joked about how the gag didn't exactly work there (because that building did in fact have an elevator, albeit not one open to normal student use). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Whether or not the prank exists, I don't think it could be a reference to that. Clearly, Strong Bad isn't pranking anyone--the pool does exist. He isn't selling pool items or fooling people. I never watched Saved by the Bell that much, but I immediately recognized what he was making fun of: places or things suddenly appearing conveniently, which happens as often in the Homestarrunner universe as anywhere. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::At my school, we had a freight elevator I used to move my drums downstairs, and the upperclassmen convinced me there was a snake pit under there. Oh, and on the subject, I thought that was Strong Bad's pool in A Jumping Jack Contest. [[User:Foxtrotblues| - Foxtrotblues]] 23:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

::::As I said, I really don't think it's a reference to that whether or not the prank exists. And if it is, it shouldn't be in "Remarks." Are there any objections to removing the fact or at least stuffing it? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::You should make that fact a splode.[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:Folks: The Pool has been there forever. We have not seen it for 5 years. If the Marshmallow Shop shows up next week, we won't be talking about it appearing out of nowhere. Please see [[Swimming Pool]] for more. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Einstein and Muffled?==
<blockquote>STRONG BAD: So later on anybody wanna get together a game of "Sharks and Minnows"? "Einstein and [muffled]"? "Pregnant and seventeen"?</blockquote>
It seems to me that Strong Bad says "Einstein and Kreskin," likely a refrence to [[wikipedia:kreskin |The Amazing Kreskin]].
I'll refrain from changing the article untile there's a consensus. [[User:216.229.35.170|216.229.35.170]] 23:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:Well, someone just made the edit. Nevermind.[[User:216.229.35.170|216.229.35.170]] 23:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:Second reference to pregnant teenagers, with the Cheat Commando's setting precedence?
::Sorry, I removed that. Noting the first instance of something is ''sometimes'', conceivably, worthwhile. Noting the second and third and so on gets hard. (Plus, I think "seventeen" was a reference to the magazine, though I haven't found a "''Pregnant''" magazine.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I fail to see how you infer a Seventeen magazine reference here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Inflated The Cheat ==

In regards to the Inside Reference of the Helium email, I'm not certain the cheat is actually inflated, from what I can tell he just seems to be leaning back (or tilting his head up) -{{Tempestryder}}
---He is neither inflated nor lying on his back. I present you with this image.
[[Image:Dacheet.JPG ]]
cessna man!

:I find myself to be skeptical as well. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Well, he sure looks inflated to me... Perhaps not quite in the same way, but much rounder in some way. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::The cheat is a pudge like thing. He has no feet, it kind of just has skin folds near the bottom of him. In order to swim forward, a normal person would need to kick their feet... apparently the cheat leans his bottom half backward and it causes a bend in him, making him look puffed up. He uses his arms to paddle. This also makes him look kind of like a boat. Regardless, I don't think he is inflated at all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Claiming he's inflated is pure speculation. He could easily be arching his body to propel himself across the water's surface. We really don't know anything about his physiology to assume he can or cannot inflate. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::He looks like a duck. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 10:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::He's obviously lying on his stomache lifting his head up. {{User:Salty/sig}} 17:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:Since most of us seem to be in agreement, should the inside reference to Helium made on the article page be removed? --{{User:Tempestryder}}
::I'd say yes, from the looks of it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::: I'd say he's a speedboat, or a hydro. Especially because of the sound effects. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::: now i really really want a the cheat... {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::He looks poofier, but it could be an artist's error (no offesnse TBC). To see examples of artist errors, watch the first episode of Family Guy. Brian's Head keeps changing shape. It's probably just the difficulty of drawing him in this position. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::(sigh) There's no error, I'm sure. To me, The Cheat is arched back, paddling away, making motorboat sounds. Sometimes it's as simple as it looks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Funny and true ==

It has been hot in Sunnyvale, Ca. I know this because I live there. Unfortunately, I didn't write this one, but I'm glad Strong Bad knows about it. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
:Yeah, it's been hot in St. Louis, too. It's been constantly in the triple digits. I sent SB an e-mail 'bout it, but I guess it just didn't cut it. Hey, did your power go out? Mine was out for 5 days.{{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:No, thank god. Of course, we dont have AC, so it wouldnt have made difference, coolness wise. But at least our food didnt cook in the fridge. That blackout must have sucked! -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 01, 19:51:15 UTC
::Yeah, it did. And I just heard that more people in my area who already had their power out for numerous days are going out again- electric company says it's because of the heat. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::guess what! its hot in texas. everybody here is like: "So What?" its always 100 degrees. and we still go to work, outside, in the sun. uphill. both ways. my sympathy truly goes out to the families who have lost ppl. but seriously guys. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Guess what? It's ''always'' hot in Texas. If we lived in Texas, we'd be like "So what?" too. But we don't. And we think it's hot. I'm sorry about the hills. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, we know it's hot in Texas. That's why we don't live there. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 02, 19:09:45 UTC
:::::It's so hot in Chicago! I'd go [[User:Foxtrotblues|complain]] about it but I don't know what to write... [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

===Heat wave===

no doubt about th heat wav. I mean, even in Seattle it's boiling hot! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 06:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:In Michigan, my city had a low temperature of 81 degrees F (27 degrees C) this morning. That's a record high minimum temperature. At eleven o'clock last night, it still felt like (heat index) 100 F (38 C). And that's not the worst of it. Ask the people from St. Louis and central Illinois how hot it is. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

::I live in St. Louis and was getting up in the triple digits pretty much all of last week. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Most of the north SF Bay Area was up in the 110s last weekend (I think the high in my city was 115?). Plus, traffic was terrible as a lot of lights were out. It was awful trying to get around in a car without a/c. Imagine our relief when the heat wave started going down--"Yes! It's in the high 90s!!!!" [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 16:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::You got that right. Here in NC, summer is hard enough normally, but this summer is crazy. It's still in the 80s at 9PM.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 01:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: Actually, I live on the outskirts of Seattle, and the heat wave has (at least for now) passed around here. It dropped to the 60s or low 70s (normal for summer in this area) last weekend. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

This discussion might be better suited to the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum].  I'll leave this here as it displays the meteorogical significance of this toon, but let's move future weather-related discussion to the forum, please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Ool, not Pool ==

After Homestar crashes through Strong Bad's roof. He says "Uh, Strong Bad, I think that total wave ruined your ool." That's "Ool" not "Pool" as the transcript currently reads. This is in reference to the "There is no P in our pool, please keep it that way" Sign referenced in the toon. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
: You could have just updated the transcript yourself and explained your reasoning in the summary... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:: ....oh yeah...duh... Thanks!
:::i think he says "that toadal wave ruined your ool... {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:11, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::It's hard to tell with his lisp. He's not known for pronouncing his Ts. I think "Total" works better anyway. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 02, 19:10:58 UTC

== Goofs - The parenthesis ==

Are you guys sure this is a goof? When i first watched it I took it as an apostrophe. Ie: for the marking of a missing letter --ME!

:I'm confused, so I'll elaborate on what we're talking about: it's the ( right before "Notice." There is an apostrophe on the sign for comparison, i.e. in 'ool. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Ahhh dont mind me then, your right i was wrong. I thought it meant the apostrophe in 'ool :D

== Marzi's green hair ==

Any chance that her green hair is a reference to Diff'rent Strokes? There was an ep where Kimberly washed her hair using acid rain water (which contained lots of chemicals, like the 'ool) and the result was her hair turned green. [[User:AcidHelmNun|Mike]] 06:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Was I the only one reminded of that Falling Sand java game? The "plant" sand is green and burns away like Marzi's hair.
:According from a few posts in the forum, it's apparently a somewhat common real-world occurance for blondes to have their hair turn green from pool chemicals.
I don't think it's a reference to any particular TV show. My wife has very thin, natural blond hair, and when she was young and at the pool all the time, her hair would turn very green. It's a reaction to the chlorine in the water. So, it's not a problem limited to dyed blonds as the article currently states.--[[User:Eepiccolo|eepiccolo]] 15:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I admit it, I was reaching. ;) [[User:AcidHelmNun|Mike]] 04:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I have naturally blonde hair, and my hair turns a slight greenish tint when I've been in a pool with chlorine. It's a natural occurance. And it washes out. --S

== Nu-uh! Still the third wall! ==

The article currently states that when Strong Bad explains what Strongbadia is and is not, it is one of the most abrupt fourth wall breaks to date. There was a discussion over a similar incident a while back in the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Talk:mile talk page for "mile"]. Basically, the Strong Bad emails are based on the premise that he is answering his emails for an audience. I honestly don't care that much about the consistency, but these are the kinds of things the wiki loves to bicker over.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 16:10, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yup. That's why I removed it. Even if it were a break, it's certainly not "one of the most abrupt to date", but it's not. What we're seeing qualifies as Strong Bad's imagination--characters aren't really blank spaces--and simply pointing out which location is Strong Badia and which are not... I have no idea how that's supposed to be a break. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::I put it back. When I originally wrote it, I admitted it could be reworded, so if you see a way to fix it up then feel free. The break is ''not'' the part where we see the character cutouts. The break ''is'' the part where Strong Bad freezes the supposedly live "webcast", takes us on a trip around FCUSA, offers us a high five, and then restarts the action. Essentially he is speaking directly ''for TBC'' and addressing the real viewers—you and me—about an apparently common misconception ''outside the continuity'' of the actual email. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Just wondering--where is it ever stated that sbemails are live? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::You do have a point there — in [[Weclome Back]], Strong Bad was attempting to record a sbemail with a video camera. Nevertheless, that one uncharacteristically had "REC" and a flashing dot in the corner of the screen. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Other instances include The Cheat's watching [[huttah]] on his computer. But never mind the "live" bit; it's secondary to my point. My point is that TBC, using Strong Bad, brought the email to a complete halt and directly addressed the fans in order to clear up something a lot of fans no doubt get wrong. It's also noteworthy that the little digression was not brought up in the rest of the email. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::I thought that Strong Bad pointed out what Strong Badia was because he wanted to trick people into thinking that the pool is in Strong Badia. "In the pool that we've always had... that we use all the time..." reinforces this. This is beside the point of whether or not it's a FWB. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:56, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
"Third wall"... there's a term I've never heard used before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:While I accept that you may be joking there: breaking the fourth wall comes from the thought that the front of the stage in a theater represents a wall of whatever room is portrayed on the set, so by breaking that wall it allows the characters to see (and interact with) the audience. (I have also heard it said that the first wall is letting the characters know the script, 2nd is awareness that thy are in a play, 3rd is ability to change anything based on these, and 4th is audience involvement, but i dont accept this) -- The annony formerly known as DumbMuscle (sister's compy due to technical problems)
:: I know what "breaking the fourth wall" means. My comment was directed at the title of this topic ("Still the third wall!") So... Strong Bad's breaking the third wall or something? (As a note, I have never heard of the "first wall is letting the characters know the script" etc. thing before and think that whoever told it to you made it up.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Sou' Sou'west or South Southwest? ==

In the second Easter Eggs, Strong Sad clearly says "sou' sou'west" instead of "south southwest". Is this a reference to something? I recall similar pronounciations for compass points in the movie "Master and Commander", is it old British Navy jargon? At any rate, I changed the transcript (without explaination, my bad) to reflect this contraction but it was reverted, so I figured I'd start a discussion topic on it.--[[User:Adrock|Adrock]] 20:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
: I don't think it's an intentional reference as much as just how it's said in that dialect [[User:Vash Lupin VI|Vash Lupin VI]] 20:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::I don't know. On one hand, they could be making some kind of joke, or Matt could have just stuttered {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 20:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
"South-southwest" is one of the [[Wikipedia:Boxing the compass|principal points]] on a compass.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::The reference is to a NorEaster, which is a typical way of describing a storm that comes in from the NorthEast.
:::He definitely said sou'sou'west, and yes, this is how mariners talk. among other ways.{{User:Csours/sig}} 05:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Loafing's got a point there. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::It's not a reference to anything. Strong Sad is just dropping consonants because he's relaxed/tired. My NOAA weather radio is always telling me winds are south-southwest at 5-10 knots. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Gah! To the anonymous poster who "defined" a Nor'Easter, you made this meteorologist cringe! Nor'easters move TO the northeast, and typically have northeast winds on their northwestern side ... they definitely do not move southwestward (or from the northeast) ... [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 00:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Was this changed recently, and I missed the memo? From [[Wikipedia:Windsock]]:<blockquote>Note that wind directions are conventionally specified as being the compass point from which the wind originates; so a windsock pointing due north indicates a southerly wind</blockquote>This is the way I've always seen it quoted... a nor'easter blows ''from'' the northeast, a sou'wester blows ''from'' the southwest, and is also a type of [[Wikipedia:Sou'wester|sailor's hat]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:21, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Twin Characters? ==

Does Strong Bad interrupting himself to explain what Strongbadia is count as an appearance of [[Twin Characters]]? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:I don't think so. I think it's a fourth-wall break, discussed above. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::From Twin Characters: "where a single character appears more than once in the same scene." That's all the description given. Why can't it be both? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 03:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Usually, in the Twin Characters instances, they tend to react to each other, I think. Strong Bad's pauses the action, coming up in a separate place entirely. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Agree with DG up above. It's a seperate instance of the same character, the original footage is stopped so that he can make a point and resume. They are in fact the same Strong Bad so it is not an instance of twin characters. Maybe the description should be updated so that it makes more sense. I imagine for the twin characters situation to apply they must react to one another or it must be done in a way so that both characters are in the same scene in "real-time." Or in other words, no pausing the action and then resuming like in this toon.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::yea, not twin characters, post-production. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== strong mad-nami ==

this might be too vague/general/overanalytical for a fun fact, but strong mad jumping into the pool is similar to the action of a tsunami, ie, you dont see the effect in deep water, only when the wave gets to the shallows does the compression lead to a severe rise in water level. just a thought. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

It is too overanalytical. But we can make it better:

The way the tidal wave behaves is similar to the behavior of a [[wikipedia:Tsunami|Tsunami]].
[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:I'd say its really more of a comic device than any kind of scientific thing. Because first your surprised by such a tiny splash he makes, and then your surprised again after that by the enormous "total wave." It's doubly surprising. --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

==Left-handed?==

When Strong Bad says "Gimme a high five" he raises his left hand. Could this possibly mean he left-handed. Being right-handed, I find it fairly uncomfortable to high five with my left hand. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 19:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: Although I'm personally of the persuasion that TBC just don't bother keeping track, the consensus here is that Strong Bad is [[Left Handedness|ambidextrous]] (like me!) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

::Being so versatile on the computer, I'd imagine he would be!
[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::ummm............. 'kay.

== Tomby, Dick and harry ==

Is Strong Bad's spelling of tom B as "Tomby" a reference to the videogame character of the same name? - Grover Junior
: No such character, Stu. Perhaps you meant [[Wikipedia:Tomba|Tomba]]? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::Was about to say, ol' Jaycob but you interrupted my edit, although it is spelled 'Tombi' in some versions, hence my mistake - Grover Junior.

==Total wave or turtle wave?==
What exactly does homestar say at the end of the email? I think he says turtle wave. If he does, then it might a reference to the Kamehameha from Dragonball Z. Thoughts?
[[User:66.65.115.218|66.65.115.218]] 20:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Definitely "toadal" or phonetically similar. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: "Reference to the Kamehameha"?! Uh... how? Am I missing something? Anyway, '''total'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::I'm leaning towards total wave. It just seems more like something that Homestar would say, doesn't it? --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:41, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar mixing up words ==

Right now there's an "Inside Reference" that says: "Homestar, as he has done many times, mixes up two words ("total" and "tidal")." Isn't Homestar mixing up words far too common, general and obvious an occurrence to qualify as an Inside Reference? It's not a reference to anything; it's just the way Homestar talks. [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 01:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
:Some foks may say that it's a reference to how he's done that in other cartoons. It's a regular mistake that he's making. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 01:36, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
::I'd probably say it's more of a running gag than in inside reference. --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:42, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk:keep cool

Chupaqueso — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:43:46 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* Long Pants? */

==DS?==

What do you suppose Homestar's marking as "ds" means? I can think of one that's not family friendly, but other options? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:My guess is on Dumb Star, or something like that. He previously called Homestar that in an email, I think, but I am not sure. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I'm guessing it's a reference to the Nintendo DS. It has been shown again and again that TBC are Nintendo fans. At least, the DS was what I first thought of when I saw that. My two cents. {{User:Alcnolien/sig}} 20:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:::It's almost certainly "duckshirt." That's pretty much a synonym for Homestar, and in [[flashback]], SB uses "Duckshirt" as Homestar's name. [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 20:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I concur: Duckshirt is the answer. [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 14:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yea, I'd have to say duck shirt, it fits better than the other options. [[User:Vash Lupin VI|Vash Lupin VI]] 20:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Maybe it's just the "sb" on the Strong Bad cutout mirrored. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}}
::If that's the case then the "s" would be backwards.
:When I first saw it, it seemed like the "ds" was just a (poor) phonetic spelling of "this". He IS saying that as he cycles through the images. Not everything needs to be a reference! :P This simply seems like a bit of overthinking to me. 16:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, not everything needs to be a reference, but all the other labels are names or nicknames. It's not overthinking if things like it are obviously references.[[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Dosent DS mean Dip Sh**? I remember that from my elemntary school years.--{{User:Finest1/sig}} 12:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:I personally thought Nintendo DS. But duck shirt seems like the best choice. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
Foxtrotblues]] 23:09, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, when I saw it I was like "Oh, Dual Screen" but then, why would they do that? I think it's agreed that it stands for duckshirt {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 01:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Baseball reference ==

Strongsad's Easteregg mentioning Baseball could be a reference to the MLB Trade Deadline (which ends in 20 minutes)
:Doubtful - TGS11 had a baseball ref too. I think TBC just like baseball. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== Sticklyman's Return! ==
No running, no diving, and no swimming; All represented by the pudding-shoveler himself! --[[User:207.69.139.8|207.69.139.8]] 19:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah, but are you sure it's Sticlyman? Does he have a shovel? Is he into light fighting? Or maybe he's just the typical guy-on-a-sign stick man. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:I hate you. My hopes and dreams rise up and you cruelly shoot them down with your harsh words. I will have my revenge, jerk! --[[User:207.69.139.8|207.69.139.8]] 20:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::That was kind'a rude, Qermac, but I suspect a block-in-progress, Mr. IP {{User:Stongbah/sig}} 21:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:::There was nothing rude about what Qermaq said. He was just making the facts obvious.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::::In a somewhat funny way too. I don't think it's sticklyman. Although I'd like to see him return for another challeeeeenge one day!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::Don't block the IP. It's real hard to express sarcasm on the 'net; it might have been a sarcastic remark. On that note, I think Stinkoman killed Sticklyman. --[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== no clicky on the lappy ==

when you click the lappy's screen, the pressure waves don't show up.

:Sure they do. I just did it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

::They don't show up after Strong Bad falls through the roof. --[[User:Ragey|Ragey]] 22:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== Up, A, and Start ==

Does this reference any particular video game? If it were just Up+A, I'd be sure it was a reference to Metroid or both Legend of Zelda games on the NES (using that code on a second controller would save your progress and restart) but I can't think of any games that used Up+A and Start. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 20:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:You are almost certainly right. In fact, the Up+A on the second controller trick only works when you have paused (pressed start) on the first controller. I'm going to add it to the real-world references section. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:58, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think it refers to any video game, he's just making up a cheat code. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 22:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I agree with Swimma Dan. The Metroid and Zelda references don't make sense because you have to press Start before hand. That's not Up, A, Start, that's Start, A, Up. And if we're going to accept Kirby's Dream Land, where it's Up, A, Select, then are we going to accept codes that go Up, B, Start, or Down, A, Start, or A, Up, Start? Unless someone can find a game code that goes exactly "Up, A, Start", I think this should be changed to a more general reference about video game codes. [[User:70.224.249.166|70.224.249.166]] 00:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Agreed, I figured it was just a generic cheat code thing, not a reference to a specific game. The Zelda reference might make sense, but I think the Kirby one is really stretching it (it's not even the same code!). As for the Metroid thing, I'm probably going to make myself sound really stupid here, but didn't Metroid use ''passwords'', not save files? At least the US version did. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 01:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Metroid did use passwords, Mr. Saturn. However, if you paused and hit Up+A on Controller 2, you would get brought to the password screen, and you can restart the game from there. I've seen this trick in the various tool-assisted speedruns of the game. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 04:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'd have to agree with the Generic Game Code people. We could make a poll though {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::Another point in favor of a reference to the Zelda games and Metroid is that it fits the context. In the games, you would want to save your progress using this trick before you went in to a dungeon or some place where you might die. In the toon, Strong Bad urges swimmers who have just eaten to do this before they reenter the pool, presumably so that if they died they could start again from the point right before entering the pool. If I'm not mistaken, that's part of the joke SB's making. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"If they died they could start again"? I don't see that at all. To me, it sounds like he's just adding something ridiculous onto a list of other ridiculous things. I agree that if TBC were referencing those games, they would have said "Start, A, Up." I think it's just general. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:18, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Well, I think there's enough of a consensus here to remove the fact in question. Oh well :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Long Pants? ==

Is it me, or is Homestar wearing his 'long pants' in the 'ool? (~InvaderJem)
:According the Strongbad, he doesn't have [[long pants]]. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::True, but that's why I put quote-marks. Homestar insists that he wears long pants, though...
:::What are you getting at? {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 20:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Since his "long pants" are really just his bare skin, what else would he be wearing in the pool? It's not like he can take ''that'' off. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 21:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I guess that's true.
::::::Yeah, do you take off your leg skin when you go swimming? And if so, are you some kind of robot? And if so, do you use your powers for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces? I just happen to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. -[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pooling ==

How about the fact that the "pool" had been previously mentioned here [http://www.homestarrunner.com/hs6.html]

:I think that might pass off as a fun fact. Nice find, there! (~InvaderJem)
::See [[Swimming Pool]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

It seems more likely to be the pool from [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].
:Was there not also a pool mentioned in [[other days]], when Strong Bad had swim practice? Apparently he's finished them as well as lifeguard training since then. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::[[other days]] doesn't directly mention a pool, but where else would Strong Bad and Strong Sad have swim practice?{{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}}
:::They had a pool back in [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] and [[Theme Song Video]]. [[User:75.22.195.241|75.22.195.241]] 02:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::The Color Pallette in the backdrop of the 'ool is similar to the older cartoons, too. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::Color palette? Huh? Anyway, [[Swimming Pool]] mentions all the above. That's the place for pool sightings. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Mr. Chek(h)ov ==

I'm pretty sure this is a double reference to both the writer and the Star Trek character. Yeah, they're spelled differently, but who ever calls Anton Chekhov "Mr. Chekhov"? However, Kirk did call his Chekov "Mr." all the time...
:It's not going to be TTATOT. If they were referencing Star Trek, they'd have spelled it Chekov. They didn't, so I doubt it's a ST reference at all, especially as Chekhov is even more famous. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Not only that, but Anoton Chekhov is someone Strong Sad would be reading. It's Strong Sad. I mean, come on.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes. Obviously, Strong Sad would read Chekhov. So it's a reference to the author. But nobody calls Anton Chekhov "Mr.". That is obviously (I think) a reference to the Star Trek character. It's a joke. And I think that it's worth putting in the explanation because many people won't know what it's about. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I removed the Chekov reference based on points above. It's this, that and the other thing if it's a reference to both. And it's spelled like the author, not the navigator, so it's clear which was being referenced. Now, IF "Mr. Chekov" is included, I can live with it, but not without. Otherwise it's like saying that Monkey D is a reference to Sunny D, Tenacious D and Sandra Dee. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC) (Add: And by "living with it" I am saying I still don't agree, but can let it go. But we're a bit too generous in claiming what's a reference around here. Without an explanation of why "Mr. Chechov" might be referring to a guy with a differently-spelled name, it seems out of place and random, and reduces the knowledge-base-ness of the page.)
:Nice, we were working on it at the same time... I reckon "Mr. Checkov" is simply such an iconic name that "Mr. Chekhov" is an obvious reference for someone who knows Star Trek. And there have been made enough ST references by TBC that I believe they do know ST. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yup; sorry Qermaq, but I gotta disagree with you on this one. If it's not a reference, it's a goof, and I'd like to think they know how to spell it. Plus, suppose they were simply thinking of Chekhov, and Chekov never entered their minds; why choose the "Mr." title? It's a strange choice for an anthology or biography. And it would be a stranger coincidence for it to mirror the Star Trek usage accidentally. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Nah, I don't think this is a goof. Chekhov sounds like the kind of stuff that Strong Sad was reading. He doesn't strike me as the type who reads Star Trek anthologies. Anyway, the way the fact is written now, everybody can make up their own mind. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Progressive progress ==

Is anyone still currently working on the transcript? When I stopped, I took the "inprogress" template off... If whoever's working on it now is going really slowly, that's one thing, but it's kinda rude to leave the template there and just stop. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== The school aways had an elevator! ==

Is anyone else thinking that this particular line might be a reference to Saved by the Bell? Specifically, that time the school suddenly had an elevator for Zack to deliver Mr. Belding's son in? - [[User:81.157.53.124|81.157.53.124]] 21:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

--I think it is a refrence to that, and many other TV shows where the charecters go to a second floor, basement, pool, etc.

Or, maybe it was like my school, where there was no elevator, and there was no swimming pool, but all the freshman were sold swimming pool passes and elevator passes by the upperclassmen.
::It makes more sense that it was the Saved by the Bell episode, because it's referring to how their cartoon and the TV show suddenly and conveniently had something that was never obviously there before for sake of the plot.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::However: they '''have''' always had this pool. Since one of the very first animated toons. So the analogy doesn't really apply, does it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that's true. I'd say maybe TBC forgot, but if you go to the flash file for Theme Song Video and look at how they did the water effect, it looks like the same piece makes up the wavy top of the water in both toons. *shrug* It makes more sense the way I said it. lol. I'm not really sure on this.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Someone, perhaps anonymous above, added a Fun Fact linkin SB's line to a supposedly common prank by upperclassmen of making freshmen believe in nonexistant pools or elevators. I left it alone simply because I can't think of another way to make sense of his line, but at the moment it's a purely anecdotal Fun Fact. If it's going to stay, it would be nice to have some kind of documentation showing that this has happened to more than one person. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::When I saw it, I immediately thought of Saved By The Bell. I've been watching the sbemails for a long time, and I hadn't remembered the pool. Even if they remembered that it was there, the average viewer has never heard of them having a pool, so for SB to say that the pool's always there and they use it all the time seems on par with suddenly announcing Bayside had an elevator, and it's been there all along and people use it all the time.

:I, for one, have heard of this prank as far back as sixteen years ago, and when I first heard it in junior high it was presented as something that had been making the rounds for quite a while. When we got to high school, we always joked about how the gag didn't exactly work there (because that building did in fact have an elevator, albeit not one open to normal student use). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Whether or not the prank exists, I don't think it could be a reference to that. Clearly, Strong Bad isn't pranking anyone--the pool does exist. He isn't selling pool items or fooling people. I never watched Saved by the Bell that much, but I immediately recognized what he was making fun of: places or things suddenly appearing conveniently, which happens as often in the Homestarrunner universe as anywhere. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::At my school, we had a freight elevator I used to move my drums downstairs, and the upperclassmen convinced me there was a snake pit under there. Oh, and on the subject, I thought that was Strong Bad's pool in A Jumping Jack Contest. [[User:Foxtrotblues| - Foxtrotblues]] 23:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

::::As I said, I really don't think it's a reference to that whether or not the prank exists. And if it is, it shouldn't be in "Remarks." Are there any objections to removing the fact or at least stuffing it? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::You should make that fact a splode.[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:Folks: The Pool has been there forever. We have not seen it for 5 years. If the Marshmallow Shop shows up next week, we won't be talking about it appearing out of nowhere. Please see [[Swimming Pool]] for more. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Einstein and Muffled?==
<blockquote>STRONG BAD: So later on anybody wanna get together a game of "Sharks and Minnows"? "Einstein and [muffled]"? "Pregnant and seventeen"?</blockquote>
It seems to me that Strong Bad says "Einstein and Kreskin," likely a refrence to [[wikipedia:kreskin |The Amazing Kreskin]].
I'll refrain from changing the article untile there's a consensus. [[User:216.229.35.170|216.229.35.170]] 23:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:Well, someone just made the edit. Nevermind.[[User:216.229.35.170|216.229.35.170]] 23:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:Second reference to pregnant teenagers, with the Cheat Commando's setting precedence?
::Sorry, I removed that. Noting the first instance of something is ''sometimes'', conceivably, worthwhile. Noting the second and third and so on gets hard. (Plus, I think "seventeen" was a reference to the magazine, though I haven't found a "''Pregnant''" magazine.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I fail to see how you infer a Seventeen magazine reference here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Inflated The Cheat ==

In regards to the Inside Reference of the Helium email, I'm not certain the cheat is actually inflated, from what I can tell he just seems to be leaning back (or tilting his head up) -{{Tempestryder}}
---He is neither inflated nor lying on his back. I present you with this image.
[[Image:Dacheet.JPG ]]
cessna man!

:I find myself to be skeptical as well. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Well, he sure looks inflated to me... Perhaps not quite in the same way, but much rounder in some way. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::The cheat is a pudge like thing. He has no feet, it kind of just has skin folds near the bottom of him. In order to swim forward, a normal person would need to kick their feet... apparently the cheat leans his bottom half backward and it causes a bend in him, making him look puffed up. He uses his arms to paddle. This also makes him look kind of like a boat. Regardless, I don't think he is inflated at all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Claiming he's inflated is pure speculation. He could easily be arching his body to propel himself across the water's surface. We really don't know anything about his physiology to assume he can or cannot inflate. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::He looks like a duck. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 10:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::He's obviously lying on his stomache lifting his head up. {{User:Salty/sig}} 17:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:Since most of us seem to be in agreement, should the inside reference to Helium made on the article page be removed? --{{User:Tempestryder}}
::I'd say yes, from the looks of it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::: I'd say he's a speedboat, or a hydro. Especially because of the sound effects. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::: now i really really want a the cheat... {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::He looks poofier, but it could be an artist's error (no offesnse TBC). To see examples of artist errors, watch the first episode of Family Guy. Brian's Head keeps changing shape. It's probably just the difficulty of drawing him in this position. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::(sigh) There's no error, I'm sure. To me, The Cheat is arched back, paddling away, making motorboat sounds. Sometimes it's as simple as it looks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Funny and true ==

It has been hot in Sunnyvale, Ca. I know this because I live there. Unfortunately, I didn't write this one, but I'm glad Strong Bad knows about it. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
:Yeah, it's been hot in St. Louis, too. It's been constantly in the triple digits. I sent SB an e-mail 'bout it, but I guess it just didn't cut it. Hey, did your power go out? Mine was out for 5 days.{{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:No, thank god. Of course, we dont have AC, so it wouldnt have made difference, coolness wise. But at least our food didnt cook in the fridge. That blackout must have sucked! -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 01, 19:51:15 UTC
::Yeah, it did. And I just heard that more people in my area who already had their power out for numerous days are going out again- electric company says it's because of the heat. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::guess what! its hot in texas. everybody here is like: "So What?" its always 100 degrees. and we still go to work, outside, in the sun. uphill. both ways. my sympathy truly goes out to the families who have lost ppl. but seriously guys. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Guess what? It's ''always'' hot in Texas. If we lived in Texas, we'd be like "So what?" too. But we don't. And we think it's hot. I'm sorry about the hills. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, we know it's hot in Texas. That's why we don't live there. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 02, 19:09:45 UTC
:::::It's so hot in Chicago! I'd go [[User:Foxtrotblues|complain]] about it but I don't know what to write... [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

===Heat wave===

no doubt about th heat wav. I mean, even in Seattle it's boiling hot! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 06:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:In Michigan, my city had a low temperature of 81 degrees F (27 degrees C) this morning. That's a record high minimum temperature. At eleven o'clock last night, it still felt like (heat index) 100 F (38 C). And that's not the worst of it. Ask the people from St. Louis and central Illinois how hot it is. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

::I live in St. Louis and was getting up in the triple digits pretty much all of last week. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Most of the north SF Bay Area was up in the 110s last weekend (I think the high in my city was 115?). Plus, traffic was terrible as a lot of lights were out. It was awful trying to get around in a car without a/c. Imagine our relief when the heat wave started going down--"Yes! It's in the high 90s!!!!" [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 16:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::You got that right. Here in NC, summer is hard enough normally, but this summer is crazy. It's still in the 80s at 9PM.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 01:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: Actually, I live on the outskirts of Seattle, and the heat wave has (at least for now) passed around here. It dropped to the 60s or low 70s (normal for summer in this area) last weekend. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

This discussion might be better suited to the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum].  I'll leave this here as it displays the meteorogical significance of this toon, but let's move future weather-related discussion to the forum, please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Ool, not Pool ==

After Homestar crashes through Strong Bad's roof. He says "Uh, Strong Bad, I think that total wave ruined your ool." That's "Ool" not "Pool" as the transcript currently reads. This is in reference to the "There is no P in our pool, please keep it that way" Sign referenced in the toon. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
: You could have just updated the transcript yourself and explained your reasoning in the summary... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:: ....oh yeah...duh... Thanks!
:::i think he says "that toadal wave ruined your ool... {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:11, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::It's hard to tell with his lisp. He's not known for pronouncing his Ts. I think "Total" works better anyway. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 02, 19:10:58 UTC

== Goofs - The parenthesis ==

Are you guys sure this is a goof? When i first watched it I took it as an apostrophe. Ie: for the marking of a missing letter --ME!

:I'm confused, so I'll elaborate on what we're talking about: it's the ( right before "Notice." There is an apostrophe on the sign for comparison, i.e. in 'ool. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Ahhh dont mind me then, your right i was wrong. I thought it meant the apostrophe in 'ool :D

== Marzi's green hair ==

Any chance that her green hair is a reference to Diff'rent Strokes? There was an ep where Kimberly washed her hair using acid rain water (which contained lots of chemicals, like the 'ool) and the result was her hair turned green. [[User:AcidHelmNun|Mike]] 06:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Was I the only one reminded of that Falling Sand java game? The "plant" sand is green and burns away like Marzi's hair.
:According from a few posts in the forum, it's apparently a somewhat common real-world occurance for blondes to have their hair turn green from pool chemicals.
I don't think it's a reference to any particular TV show. My wife has very thin, natural blond hair, and when she was young and at the pool all the time, her hair would turn very green. It's a reaction to the chlorine in the water. So, it's not a problem limited to dyed blonds as the article currently states.--[[User:Eepiccolo|eepiccolo]] 15:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I admit it, I was reaching. ;) [[User:AcidHelmNun|Mike]] 04:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I have naturally blonde hair, and my hair turns a slight greenish tint when I've been in a pool with chlorine. It's a natural occurance. And it washes out. --S

== Nu-uh! Still the third wall! ==

The article currently states that when Strong Bad explains what Strongbadia is and is not, it is one of the most abrupt fourth wall breaks to date. There was a discussion over a similar incident a while back in the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Talk:mile talk page for "mile"]. Basically, the Strong Bad emails are based on the premise that he is answering his emails for an audience. I honestly don't care that much about the consistency, but these are the kinds of things the wiki loves to bicker over.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 16:10, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yup. That's why I removed it. Even if it were a break, it's certainly not "one of the most abrupt to date", but it's not. What we're seeing qualifies as Strong Bad's imagination--characters aren't really blank spaces--and simply pointing out which location is Strong Badia and which are not... I have no idea how that's supposed to be a break. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::I put it back. When I originally wrote it, I admitted it could be reworded, so if you see a way to fix it up then feel free. The break is ''not'' the part where we see the character cutouts. The break ''is'' the part where Strong Bad freezes the supposedly live "webcast", takes us on a trip around FCUSA, offers us a high five, and then restarts the action. Essentially he is speaking directly ''for TBC'' and addressing the real viewers—you and me—about an apparently common misconception ''outside the continuity'' of the actual email. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Just wondering--where is it ever stated that sbemails are live? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::You do have a point there — in [[Weclome Back]], Strong Bad was attempting to record a sbemail with a video camera. Nevertheless, that one uncharacteristically had "REC" and a flashing dot in the corner of the screen. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Other instances include The Cheat's watching [[huttah]] on his computer. But never mind the "live" bit; it's secondary to my point. My point is that TBC, using Strong Bad, brought the email to a complete halt and directly addressed the fans in order to clear up something a lot of fans no doubt get wrong. It's also noteworthy that the little digression was not brought up in the rest of the email. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::I thought that Strong Bad pointed out what Strong Badia was because he wanted to trick people into thinking that the pool is in Strong Badia. "In the pool that we've always had... that we use all the time..." reinforces this. This is beside the point of whether or not it's a FWB. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:56, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
"Third wall"... there's a term I've never heard used before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:While I accept that you may be joking there: breaking the fourth wall comes from the thought that the front of the stage in a theater represents a wall of whatever room is portrayed on the set, so by breaking that wall it allows the characters to see (and interact with) the audience. (I have also heard it said that the first wall is letting the characters know the script, 2nd is awareness that thy are in a play, 3rd is ability to change anything based on these, and 4th is audience involvement, but i dont accept this) -- The annony formerly known as DumbMuscle (sister's compy due to technical problems)
:: I know what "breaking the fourth wall" means. My comment was directed at the title of this topic ("Still the third wall!") So... Strong Bad's breaking the third wall or something? (As a note, I have never heard of the "first wall is letting the characters know the script" etc. thing before and think that whoever told it to you made it up.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Sou' Sou'west or South Southwest? ==

In the second Easter Eggs, Strong Sad clearly says "sou' sou'west" instead of "south southwest". Is this a reference to something? I recall similar pronounciations for compass points in the movie "Master and Commander", is it old British Navy jargon? At any rate, I changed the transcript (without explaination, my bad) to reflect this contraction but it was reverted, so I figured I'd start a discussion topic on it.--[[User:Adrock|Adrock]] 20:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
: I don't think it's an intentional reference as much as just how it's said in that dialect [[User:Vash Lupin VI|Vash Lupin VI]] 20:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::I don't know. On one hand, they could be making some kind of joke, or Matt could have just stuttered {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 20:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
"South-southwest" is one of the [[Wikipedia:Boxing the compass|principal points]] on a compass.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::The reference is to a NorEaster, which is a typical way of describing a storm that comes in from the NorthEast.
:::He definitely said sou'sou'west, and yes, this is how mariners talk. among other ways.{{User:Csours/sig}} 05:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Loafing's got a point there. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::It's not a reference to anything. Strong Sad is just dropping consonants because he's relaxed/tired. My NOAA weather radio is always telling me winds are south-southwest at 5-10 knots. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Gah! To the anonymous poster who "defined" a Nor'Easter, you made this meteorologist cringe! Nor'easters move TO the northeast, and typically have northeast winds on their northwestern side ... they definitely do not move southwestward (or from the northeast) ... [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 00:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Was this changed recently, and I missed the memo? From [[Wikipedia:Windsock]]:<blockquote>Note that wind directions are conventionally specified as being the compass point from which the wind originates; so a windsock pointing due north indicates a southerly wind</blockquote>This is the way I've always seen it quoted... a nor'easter blows ''from'' the northeast, a sou'wester blows ''from'' the southwest, and is also a type of [[Wikipedia:Sou'wester|sailor's hat]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:21, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Twin Characters? ==

Does Strong Bad interrupting himself to explain what Strongbadia is count as an appearance of [[Twin Characters]]? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:I don't think so. I think it's a fourth-wall break, discussed above. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::From Twin Characters: "where a single character appears more than once in the same scene." That's all the description given. Why can't it be both? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 03:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Usually, in the Twin Characters instances, they tend to react to each other, I think. Strong Bad's pauses the action, coming up in a separate place entirely. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Agree with DG up above. It's a seperate instance of the same character, the original footage is stopped so that he can make a point and resume. They are in fact the same Strong Bad so it is not an instance of twin characters. Maybe the description should be updated so that it makes more sense. I imagine for the twin characters situation to apply they must react to one another or it must be done in a way so that both characters are in the same scene in "real-time." Or in other words, no pausing the action and then resuming like in this toon.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::yea, not twin characters, post-production. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== strong mad-nami ==

this might be too vague/general/overanalytical for a fun fact, but strong mad jumping into the pool is similar to the action of a tsunami, ie, you dont see the effect in deep water, only when the wave gets to the shallows does the compression lead to a severe rise in water level. just a thought. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

It is too overanalytical. But we can make it better:

The way the tidal wave behaves is similar to the behavior of a [[wikipedia:Tsunami|Tsunami]].
[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

==Left-handed?==

When Strong Bad says "Gimme a high five" he raises his left hand. Could this possibly mean he left-handed. Being right-handed, I find it fairly uncomfortable to high five with my left hand. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 19:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: Although I'm personally of the persuasion that TBC just don't bother keeping track, the consensus here is that Strong Bad is [[Left Handedness|ambidextrous]] (like me!) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

::Being so versatile on the computer, I'd imagine he would be!
[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::ummm............. 'kay.

== Tomby, Dick and harry ==

Is Strong Bad's spelling of tom B as "Tomby" a reference to the videogame character of the same name? - Grover Junior
: No such character, Stu. Perhaps you meant [[Wikipedia:Tomba|Tomba]]? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::Was about to say, ol' Jaycob but you interrupted my edit, although it is spelled 'Tombi' in some versions, hence my mistake - Grover Junior.

==Total wave or turtle wave?==
What exactly does homestar say at the end of the email? I think he says turtle wave. If he does, then it might a reference to the Kamehameha from Dragonball Z. Thoughts?
[[User:66.65.115.218|66.65.115.218]] 20:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Definitely "toadal" or phonetically similar. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: "Reference to the Kamehameha"?! Uh... how? Am I missing something? Anyway, '''total'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::I'm leaning towards total wave. It just seems more like something that Homestar would say, doesn't it? --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:41, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar mixing up words ==

Right now there's an "Inside Reference" that says: "Homestar, as he has done many times, mixes up two words ("total" and "tidal")." Isn't Homestar mixing up words far too common, general and obvious an occurrence to qualify as an Inside Reference? It's not a reference to anything; it's just the way Homestar talks. [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 01:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
:Some foks may say that it's a reference to how he's done that in other cartoons. It's a regular mistake that he's making. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 01:36, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
::I'd probably say it's more of a running gag than in inside reference. --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:42, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk:keep cool

Chupaqueso — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:42:47 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* Homestar mixing up words */

==DS?==

What do you suppose Homestar's marking as "ds" means? I can think of one that's not family friendly, but other options? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:My guess is on Dumb Star, or something like that. He previously called Homestar that in an email, I think, but I am not sure. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I'm guessing it's a reference to the Nintendo DS. It has been shown again and again that TBC are Nintendo fans. At least, the DS was what I first thought of when I saw that. My two cents. {{User:Alcnolien/sig}} 20:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:::It's almost certainly "duckshirt." That's pretty much a synonym for Homestar, and in [[flashback]], SB uses "Duckshirt" as Homestar's name. [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 20:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I concur: Duckshirt is the answer. [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 14:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yea, I'd have to say duck shirt, it fits better than the other options. [[User:Vash Lupin VI|Vash Lupin VI]] 20:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Maybe it's just the "sb" on the Strong Bad cutout mirrored. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}}
::If that's the case then the "s" would be backwards.
:When I first saw it, it seemed like the "ds" was just a (poor) phonetic spelling of "this". He IS saying that as he cycles through the images. Not everything needs to be a reference! :P This simply seems like a bit of overthinking to me. 16:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, not everything needs to be a reference, but all the other labels are names or nicknames. It's not overthinking if things like it are obviously references.[[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Dosent DS mean Dip Sh**? I remember that from my elemntary school years.--{{User:Finest1/sig}} 12:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:I personally thought Nintendo DS. But duck shirt seems like the best choice. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
Foxtrotblues]] 23:09, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, when I saw it I was like "Oh, Dual Screen" but then, why would they do that? I think it's agreed that it stands for duckshirt {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 01:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Baseball reference ==

Strongsad's Easteregg mentioning Baseball could be a reference to the MLB Trade Deadline (which ends in 20 minutes)
:Doubtful - TGS11 had a baseball ref too. I think TBC just like baseball. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== Sticklyman's Return! ==
No running, no diving, and no swimming; All represented by the pudding-shoveler himself! --[[User:207.69.139.8|207.69.139.8]] 19:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah, but are you sure it's Sticlyman? Does he have a shovel? Is he into light fighting? Or maybe he's just the typical guy-on-a-sign stick man. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:I hate you. My hopes and dreams rise up and you cruelly shoot them down with your harsh words. I will have my revenge, jerk! --[[User:207.69.139.8|207.69.139.8]] 20:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::That was kind'a rude, Qermac, but I suspect a block-in-progress, Mr. IP {{User:Stongbah/sig}} 21:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:::There was nothing rude about what Qermaq said. He was just making the facts obvious.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::::In a somewhat funny way too. I don't think it's sticklyman. Although I'd like to see him return for another challeeeeenge one day!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::Don't block the IP. It's real hard to express sarcasm on the 'net; it might have been a sarcastic remark. On that note, I think Stinkoman killed Sticklyman. --[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== no clicky on the lappy ==

when you click the lappy's screen, the pressure waves don't show up.

:Sure they do. I just did it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

::They don't show up after Strong Bad falls through the roof. --[[User:Ragey|Ragey]] 22:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== Up, A, and Start ==

Does this reference any particular video game? If it were just Up+A, I'd be sure it was a reference to Metroid or both Legend of Zelda games on the NES (using that code on a second controller would save your progress and restart) but I can't think of any games that used Up+A and Start. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 20:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:You are almost certainly right. In fact, the Up+A on the second controller trick only works when you have paused (pressed start) on the first controller. I'm going to add it to the real-world references section. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:58, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think it refers to any video game, he's just making up a cheat code. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 22:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I agree with Swimma Dan. The Metroid and Zelda references don't make sense because you have to press Start before hand. That's not Up, A, Start, that's Start, A, Up. And if we're going to accept Kirby's Dream Land, where it's Up, A, Select, then are we going to accept codes that go Up, B, Start, or Down, A, Start, or A, Up, Start? Unless someone can find a game code that goes exactly "Up, A, Start", I think this should be changed to a more general reference about video game codes. [[User:70.224.249.166|70.224.249.166]] 00:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Agreed, I figured it was just a generic cheat code thing, not a reference to a specific game. The Zelda reference might make sense, but I think the Kirby one is really stretching it (it's not even the same code!). As for the Metroid thing, I'm probably going to make myself sound really stupid here, but didn't Metroid use ''passwords'', not save files? At least the US version did. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 01:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Metroid did use passwords, Mr. Saturn. However, if you paused and hit Up+A on Controller 2, you would get brought to the password screen, and you can restart the game from there. I've seen this trick in the various tool-assisted speedruns of the game. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 04:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'd have to agree with the Generic Game Code people. We could make a poll though {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::Another point in favor of a reference to the Zelda games and Metroid is that it fits the context. In the games, you would want to save your progress using this trick before you went in to a dungeon or some place where you might die. In the toon, Strong Bad urges swimmers who have just eaten to do this before they reenter the pool, presumably so that if they died they could start again from the point right before entering the pool. If I'm not mistaken, that's part of the joke SB's making. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"If they died they could start again"? I don't see that at all. To me, it sounds like he's just adding something ridiculous onto a list of other ridiculous things. I agree that if TBC were referencing those games, they would have said "Start, A, Up." I think it's just general. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:18, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Well, I think there's enough of a consensus here to remove the fact in question. Oh well :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Long Pants? ==

Is it me, or is Homestar wearing his 'long pants' in the 'ool? (~InvaderJem)
:According the Strongbad, he doesn't have [[long pants]]. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::True, but that's why I put quote-marks. Homestar insists that he wears long pants, though...
:::What are you getting at? {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 20:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Since his "long pants" are really just his bare skin, what else would he be wearing in the pool? It's not like he can take ''that'' off. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 21:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I guess that's true.
::::::Yeah, do you take off your leg skin when you go swimming? And if so, are you some kind of robot? And if so, do you use your powers for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces? I just happen to be the greatest criminal mind of our time.
-[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pooling ==

How about the fact that the "pool" had been previously mentioned here [http://www.homestarrunner.com/hs6.html]

:I think that might pass off as a fun fact. Nice find, there! (~InvaderJem)
::See [[Swimming Pool]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

It seems more likely to be the pool from [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].
:Was there not also a pool mentioned in [[other days]], when Strong Bad had swim practice? Apparently he's finished them as well as lifeguard training since then. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::[[other days]] doesn't directly mention a pool, but where else would Strong Bad and Strong Sad have swim practice?{{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}}
:::They had a pool back in [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] and [[Theme Song Video]]. [[User:75.22.195.241|75.22.195.241]] 02:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::The Color Pallette in the backdrop of the 'ool is similar to the older cartoons, too. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::Color palette? Huh? Anyway, [[Swimming Pool]] mentions all the above. That's the place for pool sightings. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Mr. Chek(h)ov ==

I'm pretty sure this is a double reference to both the writer and the Star Trek character. Yeah, they're spelled differently, but who ever calls Anton Chekhov "Mr. Chekhov"? However, Kirk did call his Chekov "Mr." all the time...
:It's not going to be TTATOT. If they were referencing Star Trek, they'd have spelled it Chekov. They didn't, so I doubt it's a ST reference at all, especially as Chekhov is even more famous. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Not only that, but Anoton Chekhov is someone Strong Sad would be reading. It's Strong Sad. I mean, come on.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes. Obviously, Strong Sad would read Chekhov. So it's a reference to the author. But nobody calls Anton Chekhov "Mr.". That is obviously (I think) a reference to the Star Trek character. It's a joke. And I think that it's worth putting in the explanation because many people won't know what it's about. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I removed the Chekov reference based on points above. It's this, that and the other thing if it's a reference to both. And it's spelled like the author, not the navigator, so it's clear which was being referenced. Now, IF "Mr. Chekov" is included, I can live with it, but not without. Otherwise it's like saying that Monkey D is a reference to Sunny D, Tenacious D and Sandra Dee. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC) (Add: And by "living with it" I am saying I still don't agree, but can let it go. But we're a bit too generous in claiming what's a reference around here. Without an explanation of why "Mr. Chechov" might be referring to a guy with a differently-spelled name, it seems out of place and random, and reduces the knowledge-base-ness of the page.)
:Nice, we were working on it at the same time... I reckon "Mr. Checkov" is simply such an iconic name that "Mr. Chekhov" is an obvious reference for someone who knows Star Trek. And there have been made enough ST references by TBC that I believe they do know ST. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yup; sorry Qermaq, but I gotta disagree with you on this one. If it's not a reference, it's a goof, and I'd like to think they know how to spell it. Plus, suppose they were simply thinking of Chekhov, and Chekov never entered their minds; why choose the "Mr." title? It's a strange choice for an anthology or biography. And it would be a stranger coincidence for it to mirror the Star Trek usage accidentally. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Nah, I don't think this is a goof. Chekhov sounds like the kind of stuff that Strong Sad was reading. He doesn't strike me as the type who reads Star Trek anthologies. Anyway, the way the fact is written now, everybody can make up their own mind. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Progressive progress ==

Is anyone still currently working on the transcript? When I stopped, I took the "inprogress" template off... If whoever's working on it now is going really slowly, that's one thing, but it's kinda rude to leave the template there and just stop. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== The school aways had an elevator! ==

Is anyone else thinking that this particular line might be a reference to Saved by the Bell? Specifically, that time the school suddenly had an elevator for Zack to deliver Mr. Belding's son in? - [[User:81.157.53.124|81.157.53.124]] 21:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

--I think it is a refrence to that, and many other TV shows where the charecters go to a second floor, basement, pool, etc.

Or, maybe it was like my school, where there was no elevator, and there was no swimming pool, but all the freshman were sold swimming pool passes and elevator passes by the upperclassmen.
::It makes more sense that it was the Saved by the Bell episode, because it's referring to how their cartoon and the TV show suddenly and conveniently had something that was never obviously there before for sake of the plot.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::However: they '''have''' always had this pool. Since one of the very first animated toons. So the analogy doesn't really apply, does it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that's true. I'd say maybe TBC forgot, but if you go to the flash file for Theme Song Video and look at how they did the water effect, it looks like the same piece makes up the wavy top of the water in both toons. *shrug* It makes more sense the way I said it. lol. I'm not really sure on this.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Someone, perhaps anonymous above, added a Fun Fact linkin SB's line to a supposedly common prank by upperclassmen of making freshmen believe in nonexistant pools or elevators. I left it alone simply because I can't think of another way to make sense of his line, but at the moment it's a purely anecdotal Fun Fact. If it's going to stay, it would be nice to have some kind of documentation showing that this has happened to more than one person. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::When I saw it, I immediately thought of Saved By The Bell. I've been watching the sbemails for a long time, and I hadn't remembered the pool. Even if they remembered that it was there, the average viewer has never heard of them having a pool, so for SB to say that the pool's always there and they use it all the time seems on par with suddenly announcing Bayside had an elevator, and it's been there all along and people use it all the time.

:I, for one, have heard of this prank as far back as sixteen years ago, and when I first heard it in junior high it was presented as something that had been making the rounds for quite a while. When we got to high school, we always joked about how the gag didn't exactly work there (because that building did in fact have an elevator, albeit not one open to normal student use). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Whether or not the prank exists, I don't think it could be a reference to that. Clearly, Strong Bad isn't pranking anyone--the pool does exist. He isn't selling pool items or fooling people. I never watched Saved by the Bell that much, but I immediately recognized what he was making fun of: places or things suddenly appearing conveniently, which happens as often in the Homestarrunner universe as anywhere. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::At my school, we had a freight elevator I used to move my drums downstairs, and the upperclassmen convinced me there was a snake pit under there. Oh, and on the subject, I thought that was Strong Bad's pool in A Jumping Jack Contest. [[User:Foxtrotblues| - Foxtrotblues]] 23:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

::::As I said, I really don't think it's a reference to that whether or not the prank exists. And if it is, it shouldn't be in "Remarks." Are there any objections to removing the fact or at least stuffing it? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::You should make that fact a splode.[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:Folks: The Pool has been there forever. We have not seen it for 5 years. If the Marshmallow Shop shows up next week, we won't be talking about it appearing out of nowhere. Please see [[Swimming Pool]] for more. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Einstein and Muffled?==
<blockquote>STRONG BAD: So later on anybody wanna get together a game of "Sharks and Minnows"? "Einstein and [muffled]"? "Pregnant and seventeen"?</blockquote>
It seems to me that Strong Bad says "Einstein and Kreskin," likely a refrence to [[wikipedia:kreskin |The Amazing Kreskin]].
I'll refrain from changing the article untile there's a consensus. [[User:216.229.35.170|216.229.35.170]] 23:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:Well, someone just made the edit. Nevermind.[[User:216.229.35.170|216.229.35.170]] 23:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:Second reference to pregnant teenagers, with the Cheat Commando's setting precedence?
::Sorry, I removed that. Noting the first instance of something is ''sometimes'', conceivably, worthwhile. Noting the second and third and so on gets hard. (Plus, I think "seventeen" was a reference to the magazine, though I haven't found a "''Pregnant''" magazine.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I fail to see how you infer a Seventeen magazine reference here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Inflated The Cheat ==

In regards to the Inside Reference of the Helium email, I'm not certain the cheat is actually inflated, from what I can tell he just seems to be leaning back (or tilting his head up) -{{Tempestryder}}
---He is neither inflated nor lying on his back. I present you with this image.
[[Image:Dacheet.JPG ]]
cessna man!

:I find myself to be skeptical as well. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Well, he sure looks inflated to me... Perhaps not quite in the same way, but much rounder in some way. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::The cheat is a pudge like thing. He has no feet, it kind of just has skin folds near the bottom of him. In order to swim forward, a normal person would need to kick their feet... apparently the cheat leans his bottom half backward and it causes a bend in him, making him look puffed up. He uses his arms to paddle. This also makes him look kind of like a boat. Regardless, I don't think he is inflated at all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Claiming he's inflated is pure speculation. He could easily be arching his body to propel himself across the water's surface. We really don't know anything about his physiology to assume he can or cannot inflate. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::He looks like a duck. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 10:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::He's obviously lying on his stomache lifting his head up. {{User:Salty/sig}} 17:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:Since most of us seem to be in agreement, should the inside reference to Helium made on the article page be removed? --{{User:Tempestryder}}
::I'd say yes, from the looks of it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::: I'd say he's a speedboat, or a hydro. Especially because of the sound effects. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::: now i really really want a the cheat... {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::He looks poofier, but it could be an artist's error (no offesnse TBC). To see examples of artist errors, watch the first episode of Family Guy. Brian's Head keeps changing shape. It's probably just the difficulty of drawing him in this position. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::(sigh) There's no error, I'm sure. To me, The Cheat is arched back, paddling away, making motorboat sounds. Sometimes it's as simple as it looks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Funny and true ==

It has been hot in Sunnyvale, Ca. I know this because I live there. Unfortunately, I didn't write this one, but I'm glad Strong Bad knows about it. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
:Yeah, it's been hot in St. Louis, too. It's been constantly in the triple digits. I sent SB an e-mail 'bout it, but I guess it just didn't cut it. Hey, did your power go out? Mine was out for 5 days.{{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:No, thank god. Of course, we dont have AC, so it wouldnt have made difference, coolness wise. But at least our food didnt cook in the fridge. That blackout must have sucked! -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 01, 19:51:15 UTC
::Yeah, it did. And I just heard that more people in my area who already had their power out for numerous days are going out again- electric company says it's because of the heat. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::guess what! its hot in texas. everybody here is like: "So What?" its always 100 degrees. and we still go to work, outside, in the sun. uphill. both ways. my sympathy truly goes out to the families who have lost ppl. but seriously guys. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Guess what? It's ''always'' hot in Texas. If we lived in Texas, we'd be like "So what?" too. But we don't. And we think it's hot. I'm sorry about the hills. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, we know it's hot in Texas. That's why we don't live there. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 02, 19:09:45 UTC
:::::It's so hot in Chicago! I'd go [[User:Foxtrotblues|complain]] about it but I don't know what to write... [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

===Heat wave===

no doubt about th heat wav. I mean, even in Seattle it's boiling hot! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 06:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:In Michigan, my city had a low temperature of 81 degrees F (27 degrees C) this morning. That's a record high minimum temperature. At eleven o'clock last night, it still felt like (heat index) 100 F (38 C). And that's not the worst of it. Ask the people from St. Louis and central Illinois how hot it is. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

::I live in St. Louis and was getting up in the triple digits pretty much all of last week. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Most of the north SF Bay Area was up in the 110s last weekend (I think the high in my city was 115?). Plus, traffic was terrible as a lot of lights were out. It was awful trying to get around in a car without a/c. Imagine our relief when the heat wave started going down--"Yes! It's in the high 90s!!!!" [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 16:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::You got that right. Here in NC, summer is hard enough normally, but this summer is crazy. It's still in the 80s at 9PM.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 01:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: Actually, I live on the outskirts of Seattle, and the heat wave has (at least for now) passed around here. It dropped to the 60s or low 70s (normal for summer in this area) last weekend. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

This discussion might be better suited to the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum].  I'll leave this here as it displays the meteorogical significance of this toon, but let's move future weather-related discussion to the forum, please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Ool, not Pool ==

After Homestar crashes through Strong Bad's roof. He says "Uh, Strong Bad, I think that total wave ruined your ool." That's "Ool" not "Pool" as the transcript currently reads. This is in reference to the "There is no P in our pool, please keep it that way" Sign referenced in the toon. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
: You could have just updated the transcript yourself and explained your reasoning in the summary... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:: ....oh yeah...duh... Thanks!
:::i think he says "that toadal wave ruined your ool... {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:11, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::It's hard to tell with his lisp. He's not known for pronouncing his Ts. I think "Total" works better anyway. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 02, 19:10:58 UTC

== Goofs - The parenthesis ==

Are you guys sure this is a goof? When i first watched it I took it as an apostrophe. Ie: for the marking of a missing letter --ME!

:I'm confused, so I'll elaborate on what we're talking about: it's the ( right before "Notice." There is an apostrophe on the sign for comparison, i.e. in 'ool. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Ahhh dont mind me then, your right i was wrong. I thought it meant the apostrophe in 'ool :D

== Marzi's green hair ==

Any chance that her green hair is a reference to Diff'rent Strokes? There was an ep where Kimberly washed her hair using acid rain water (which contained lots of chemicals, like the 'ool) and the result was her hair turned green. [[User:AcidHelmNun|Mike]] 06:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Was I the only one reminded of that Falling Sand java game? The "plant" sand is green and burns away like Marzi's hair.
:According from a few posts in the forum, it's apparently a somewhat common real-world occurance for blondes to have their hair turn green from pool chemicals.
I don't think it's a reference to any particular TV show. My wife has very thin, natural blond hair, and when she was young and at the pool all the time, her hair would turn very green. It's a reaction to the chlorine in the water. So, it's not a problem limited to dyed blonds as the article currently states.--[[User:Eepiccolo|eepiccolo]] 15:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I admit it, I was reaching. ;) [[User:AcidHelmNun|Mike]] 04:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I have naturally blonde hair, and my hair turns a slight greenish tint when I've been in a pool with chlorine. It's a natural occurance. And it washes out. --S

== Nu-uh! Still the third wall! ==

The article currently states that when Strong Bad explains what Strongbadia is and is not, it is one of the most abrupt fourth wall breaks to date. There was a discussion over a similar incident a while back in the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Talk:mile talk page for "mile"]. Basically, the Strong Bad emails are based on the premise that he is answering his emails for an audience. I honestly don't care that much about the consistency, but these are the kinds of things the wiki loves to bicker over.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 16:10, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yup. That's why I removed it. Even if it were a break, it's certainly not "one of the most abrupt to date", but it's not. What we're seeing qualifies as Strong Bad's imagination--characters aren't really blank spaces--and simply pointing out which location is Strong Badia and which are not... I have no idea how that's supposed to be a break. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::I put it back. When I originally wrote it, I admitted it could be reworded, so if you see a way to fix it up then feel free. The break is ''not'' the part where we see the character cutouts. The break ''is'' the part where Strong Bad freezes the supposedly live "webcast", takes us on a trip around FCUSA, offers us a high five, and then restarts the action. Essentially he is speaking directly ''for TBC'' and addressing the real viewers—you and me—about an apparently common misconception ''outside the continuity'' of the actual email. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Just wondering--where is it ever stated that sbemails are live? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::You do have a point there — in [[Weclome Back]], Strong Bad was attempting to record a sbemail with a video camera. Nevertheless, that one uncharacteristically had "REC" and a flashing dot in the corner of the screen. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Other instances include The Cheat's watching [[huttah]] on his computer. But never mind the "live" bit; it's secondary to my point. My point is that TBC, using Strong Bad, brought the email to a complete halt and directly addressed the fans in order to clear up something a lot of fans no doubt get wrong. It's also noteworthy that the little digression was not brought up in the rest of the email. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::I thought that Strong Bad pointed out what Strong Badia was because he wanted to trick people into thinking that the pool is in Strong Badia. "In the pool that we've always had... that we use all the time..." reinforces this. This is beside the point of whether or not it's a FWB. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:56, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
"Third wall"... there's a term I've never heard used before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:While I accept that you may be joking there: breaking the fourth wall comes from the thought that the front of the stage in a theater represents a wall of whatever room is portrayed on the set, so by breaking that wall it allows the characters to see (and interact with) the audience. (I have also heard it said that the first wall is letting the characters know the script, 2nd is awareness that thy are in a play, 3rd is ability to change anything based on these, and 4th is audience involvement, but i dont accept this) -- The annony formerly known as DumbMuscle (sister's compy due to technical problems)
:: I know what "breaking the fourth wall" means. My comment was directed at the title of this topic ("Still the third wall!") So... Strong Bad's breaking the third wall or something? (As a note, I have never heard of the "first wall is letting the characters know the script" etc. thing before and think that whoever told it to you made it up.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Sou' Sou'west or South Southwest? ==

In the second Easter Eggs, Strong Sad clearly says "sou' sou'west" instead of "south southwest". Is this a reference to something? I recall similar pronounciations for compass points in the movie "Master and Commander", is it old British Navy jargon? At any rate, I changed the transcript (without explaination, my bad) to reflect this contraction but it was reverted, so I figured I'd start a discussion topic on it.--[[User:Adrock|Adrock]] 20:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
: I don't think it's an intentional reference as much as just how it's said in that dialect [[User:Vash Lupin VI|Vash Lupin VI]] 20:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::I don't know. On one hand, they could be making some kind of joke, or Matt could have just stuttered {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 20:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
"South-southwest" is one of the [[Wikipedia:Boxing the compass|principal points]] on a compass.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::The reference is to a NorEaster, which is a typical way of describing a storm that comes in from the NorthEast.
:::He definitely said sou'sou'west, and yes, this is how mariners talk. among other ways.{{User:Csours/sig}} 05:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Loafing's got a point there. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::It's not a reference to anything. Strong Sad is just dropping consonants because he's relaxed/tired. My NOAA weather radio is always telling me winds are south-southwest at 5-10 knots. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Gah! To the anonymous poster who "defined" a Nor'Easter, you made this meteorologist cringe! Nor'easters move TO the northeast, and typically have northeast winds on their northwestern side ... they definitely do not move southwestward (or from the northeast) ... [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 00:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Was this changed recently, and I missed the memo? From [[Wikipedia:Windsock]]:<blockquote>Note that wind directions are conventionally specified as being the compass point from which the wind originates; so a windsock pointing due north indicates a southerly wind</blockquote>This is the way I've always seen it quoted... a nor'easter blows ''from'' the northeast, a sou'wester blows ''from'' the southwest, and is also a type of [[Wikipedia:Sou'wester|sailor's hat]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:21, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Twin Characters? ==

Does Strong Bad interrupting himself to explain what Strongbadia is count as an appearance of [[Twin Characters]]? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:I don't think so. I think it's a fourth-wall break, discussed above. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::From Twin Characters: "where a single character appears more than once in the same scene." That's all the description given. Why can't it be both? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 03:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Usually, in the Twin Characters instances, they tend to react to each other, I think. Strong Bad's pauses the action, coming up in a separate place entirely. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Agree with DG up above. It's a seperate instance of the same character, the original footage is stopped so that he can make a point and resume. They are in fact the same Strong Bad so it is not an instance of twin characters. Maybe the description should be updated so that it makes more sense. I imagine for the twin characters situation to apply they must react to one another or it must be done in a way so that both characters are in the same scene in "real-time." Or in other words, no pausing the action and then resuming like in this toon.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::yea, not twin characters, post-production. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== strong mad-nami ==

this might be too vague/general/overanalytical for a fun fact, but strong mad jumping into the pool is similar to the action of a tsunami, ie, you dont see the effect in deep water, only when the wave gets to the shallows does the compression lead to a severe rise in water level. just a thought. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

It is too overanalytical. But we can make it better:

The way the tidal wave behaves is similar to the behavior of a [[wikipedia:Tsunami|Tsunami]].
[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

==Left-handed?==

When Strong Bad says "Gimme a high five" he raises his left hand. Could this possibly mean he left-handed. Being right-handed, I find it fairly uncomfortable to high five with my left hand. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 19:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: Although I'm personally of the persuasion that TBC just don't bother keeping track, the consensus here is that Strong Bad is [[Left Handedness|ambidextrous]] (like me!) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

::Being so versatile on the computer, I'd imagine he would be!
[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::ummm............. 'kay.

== Tomby, Dick and harry ==

Is Strong Bad's spelling of tom B as "Tomby" a reference to the videogame character of the same name? - Grover Junior
: No such character, Stu. Perhaps you meant [[Wikipedia:Tomba|Tomba]]? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::Was about to say, ol' Jaycob but you interrupted my edit, although it is spelled 'Tombi' in some versions, hence my mistake - Grover Junior.

==Total wave or turtle wave?==
What exactly does homestar say at the end of the email? I think he says turtle wave. If he does, then it might a reference to the Kamehameha from Dragonball Z. Thoughts?
[[User:66.65.115.218|66.65.115.218]] 20:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Definitely "toadal" or phonetically similar. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: "Reference to the Kamehameha"?! Uh... how? Am I missing something? Anyway, '''total'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::I'm leaning towards total wave. It just seems more like something that Homestar would say, doesn't it? --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:41, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar mixing up words ==

Right now there's an "Inside Reference" that says: "Homestar, as he has done many times, mixes up two words ("total" and "tidal")." Isn't Homestar mixing up words far too common, general and obvious an occurrence to qualify as an Inside Reference? It's not a reference to anything; it's just the way Homestar talks. [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 01:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
:Some foks may say that it's a reference to how he's done that in other cartoons. It's a regular mistake that he's making. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 01:36, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
::I'd probably say it's more of a running gag than in inside reference. --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:42, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk:keep cool

Chupaqueso — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:41:35 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* Total wave or turtle wave? */

==DS?==

What do you suppose Homestar's marking as "ds" means? I can think of one that's not family friendly, but other options? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:My guess is on Dumb Star, or something like that. He previously called Homestar that in an email, I think, but I am not sure. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I'm guessing it's a reference to the Nintendo DS. It has been shown again and again that TBC are Nintendo fans. At least, the DS was what I first thought of when I saw that. My two cents. {{User:Alcnolien/sig}} 20:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:::It's almost certainly "duckshirt." That's pretty much a synonym for Homestar, and in [[flashback]], SB uses "Duckshirt" as Homestar's name. [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 20:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I concur: Duckshirt is the answer. [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 14:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yea, I'd have to say duck shirt, it fits better than the other options. [[User:Vash Lupin VI|Vash Lupin VI]] 20:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Maybe it's just the "sb" on the Strong Bad cutout mirrored. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}}
::If that's the case then the "s" would be backwards.
:When I first saw it, it seemed like the "ds" was just a (poor) phonetic spelling of "this". He IS saying that as he cycles through the images. Not everything needs to be a reference! :P This simply seems like a bit of overthinking to me. 16:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, not everything needs to be a reference, but all the other labels are names or nicknames. It's not overthinking if things like it are obviously references.[[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Dosent DS mean Dip Sh**? I remember that from my elemntary school years.--{{User:Finest1/sig}} 12:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:I personally thought Nintendo DS. But duck shirt seems like the best choice. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
Foxtrotblues]] 23:09, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, when I saw it I was like "Oh, Dual Screen" but then, why would they do that? I think it's agreed that it stands for duckshirt {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 01:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Baseball reference ==

Strongsad's Easteregg mentioning Baseball could be a reference to the MLB Trade Deadline (which ends in 20 minutes)
:Doubtful - TGS11 had a baseball ref too. I think TBC just like baseball. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== Sticklyman's Return! ==
No running, no diving, and no swimming; All represented by the pudding-shoveler himself! --[[User:207.69.139.8|207.69.139.8]] 19:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah, but are you sure it's Sticlyman? Does he have a shovel? Is he into light fighting? Or maybe he's just the typical guy-on-a-sign stick man. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:I hate you. My hopes and dreams rise up and you cruelly shoot them down with your harsh words. I will have my revenge, jerk! --[[User:207.69.139.8|207.69.139.8]] 20:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::That was kind'a rude, Qermac, but I suspect a block-in-progress, Mr. IP {{User:Stongbah/sig}} 21:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:::There was nothing rude about what Qermaq said. He was just making the facts obvious.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::::In a somewhat funny way too. I don't think it's sticklyman. Although I'd like to see him return for another challeeeeenge one day!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::Don't block the IP. It's real hard to express sarcasm on the 'net; it might have been a sarcastic remark. On that note, I think Stinkoman killed Sticklyman. --[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== no clicky on the lappy ==

when you click the lappy's screen, the pressure waves don't show up.

:Sure they do. I just did it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

::They don't show up after Strong Bad falls through the roof. --[[User:Ragey|Ragey]] 22:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== Up, A, and Start ==

Does this reference any particular video game? If it were just Up+A, I'd be sure it was a reference to Metroid or both Legend of Zelda games on the NES (using that code on a second controller would save your progress and restart) but I can't think of any games that used Up+A and Start. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 20:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:You are almost certainly right. In fact, the Up+A on the second controller trick only works when you have paused (pressed start) on the first controller. I'm going to add it to the real-world references section. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:58, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think it refers to any video game, he's just making up a cheat code. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 22:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I agree with Swimma Dan. The Metroid and Zelda references don't make sense because you have to press Start before hand. That's not Up, A, Start, that's Start, A, Up. And if we're going to accept Kirby's Dream Land, where it's Up, A, Select, then are we going to accept codes that go Up, B, Start, or Down, A, Start, or A, Up, Start? Unless someone can find a game code that goes exactly "Up, A, Start", I think this should be changed to a more general reference about video game codes. [[User:70.224.249.166|70.224.249.166]] 00:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Agreed, I figured it was just a generic cheat code thing, not a reference to a specific game. The Zelda reference might make sense, but I think the Kirby one is really stretching it (it's not even the same code!). As for the Metroid thing, I'm probably going to make myself sound really stupid here, but didn't Metroid use ''passwords'', not save files? At least the US version did. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 01:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Metroid did use passwords, Mr. Saturn. However, if you paused and hit Up+A on Controller 2, you would get brought to the password screen, and you can restart the game from there. I've seen this trick in the various tool-assisted speedruns of the game. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 04:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'd have to agree with the Generic Game Code people. We could make a poll though {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::Another point in favor of a reference to the Zelda games and Metroid is that it fits the context. In the games, you would want to save your progress using this trick before you went in to a dungeon or some place where you might die. In the toon, Strong Bad urges swimmers who have just eaten to do this before they reenter the pool, presumably so that if they died they could start again from the point right before entering the pool. If I'm not mistaken, that's part of the joke SB's making. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"If they died they could start again"? I don't see that at all. To me, it sounds like he's just adding something ridiculous onto a list of other ridiculous things. I agree that if TBC were referencing those games, they would have said "Start, A, Up." I think it's just general. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:18, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Well, I think there's enough of a consensus here to remove the fact in question. Oh well :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Long Pants? ==

Is it me, or is Homestar wearing his 'long pants' in the 'ool? (~InvaderJem)
:According the Strongbad, he doesn't have [[long pants]]. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::True, but that's why I put quote-marks. Homestar insists that he wears long pants, though...
:::What are you getting at? {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 20:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Since his "long pants" are really just his bare skin, what else would he be wearing in the pool? It's not like he can take ''that'' off. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 21:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I guess that's true.
::::::Yeah, do you take off your leg skin when you go swimming? And if so, are you some kind of robot? And if so, do you use your powers for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces? I just happen to be the greatest criminal mind of our time.
-[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pooling ==

How about the fact that the "pool" had been previously mentioned here [http://www.homestarrunner.com/hs6.html]

:I think that might pass off as a fun fact. Nice find, there! (~InvaderJem)
::See [[Swimming Pool]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

It seems more likely to be the pool from [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].
:Was there not also a pool mentioned in [[other days]], when Strong Bad had swim practice? Apparently he's finished them as well as lifeguard training since then. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::[[other days]] doesn't directly mention a pool, but where else would Strong Bad and Strong Sad have swim practice?{{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}}
:::They had a pool back in [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] and [[Theme Song Video]]. [[User:75.22.195.241|75.22.195.241]] 02:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::The Color Pallette in the backdrop of the 'ool is similar to the older cartoons, too. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::Color palette? Huh? Anyway, [[Swimming Pool]] mentions all the above. That's the place for pool sightings. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Mr. Chek(h)ov ==

I'm pretty sure this is a double reference to both the writer and the Star Trek character. Yeah, they're spelled differently, but who ever calls Anton Chekhov "Mr. Chekhov"? However, Kirk did call his Chekov "Mr." all the time...
:It's not going to be TTATOT. If they were referencing Star Trek, they'd have spelled it Chekov. They didn't, so I doubt it's a ST reference at all, especially as Chekhov is even more famous. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Not only that, but Anoton Chekhov is someone Strong Sad would be reading. It's Strong Sad. I mean, come on.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes. Obviously, Strong Sad would read Chekhov. So it's a reference to the author. But nobody calls Anton Chekhov "Mr.". That is obviously (I think) a reference to the Star Trek character. It's a joke. And I think that it's worth putting in the explanation because many people won't know what it's about. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I removed the Chekov reference based on points above. It's this, that and the other thing if it's a reference to both. And it's spelled like the author, not the navigator, so it's clear which was being referenced. Now, IF "Mr. Chekov" is included, I can live with it, but not without. Otherwise it's like saying that Monkey D is a reference to Sunny D, Tenacious D and Sandra Dee. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC) (Add: And by "living with it" I am saying I still don't agree, but can let it go. But we're a bit too generous in claiming what's a reference around here. Without an explanation of why "Mr. Chechov" might be referring to a guy with a differently-spelled name, it seems out of place and random, and reduces the knowledge-base-ness of the page.)
:Nice, we were working on it at the same time... I reckon "Mr. Checkov" is simply such an iconic name that "Mr. Chekhov" is an obvious reference for someone who knows Star Trek. And there have been made enough ST references by TBC that I believe they do know ST. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yup; sorry Qermaq, but I gotta disagree with you on this one. If it's not a reference, it's a goof, and I'd like to think they know how to spell it. Plus, suppose they were simply thinking of Chekhov, and Chekov never entered their minds; why choose the "Mr." title? It's a strange choice for an anthology or biography. And it would be a stranger coincidence for it to mirror the Star Trek usage accidentally. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Nah, I don't think this is a goof. Chekhov sounds like the kind of stuff that Strong Sad was reading. He doesn't strike me as the type who reads Star Trek anthologies. Anyway, the way the fact is written now, everybody can make up their own mind. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Progressive progress ==

Is anyone still currently working on the transcript? When I stopped, I took the "inprogress" template off... If whoever's working on it now is going really slowly, that's one thing, but it's kinda rude to leave the template there and just stop. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== The school aways had an elevator! ==

Is anyone else thinking that this particular line might be a reference to Saved by the Bell? Specifically, that time the school suddenly had an elevator for Zack to deliver Mr. Belding's son in? - [[User:81.157.53.124|81.157.53.124]] 21:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

--I think it is a refrence to that, and many other TV shows where the charecters go to a second floor, basement, pool, etc.

Or, maybe it was like my school, where there was no elevator, and there was no swimming pool, but all the freshman were sold swimming pool passes and elevator passes by the upperclassmen.
::It makes more sense that it was the Saved by the Bell episode, because it's referring to how their cartoon and the TV show suddenly and conveniently had something that was never obviously there before for sake of the plot.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::However: they '''have''' always had this pool. Since one of the very first animated toons. So the analogy doesn't really apply, does it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that's true. I'd say maybe TBC forgot, but if you go to the flash file for Theme Song Video and look at how they did the water effect, it looks like the same piece makes up the wavy top of the water in both toons. *shrug* It makes more sense the way I said it. lol. I'm not really sure on this.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Someone, perhaps anonymous above, added a Fun Fact linkin SB's line to a supposedly common prank by upperclassmen of making freshmen believe in nonexistant pools or elevators. I left it alone simply because I can't think of another way to make sense of his line, but at the moment it's a purely anecdotal Fun Fact. If it's going to stay, it would be nice to have some kind of documentation showing that this has happened to more than one person. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::When I saw it, I immediately thought of Saved By The Bell. I've been watching the sbemails for a long time, and I hadn't remembered the pool. Even if they remembered that it was there, the average viewer has never heard of them having a pool, so for SB to say that the pool's always there and they use it all the time seems on par with suddenly announcing Bayside had an elevator, and it's been there all along and people use it all the time.

:I, for one, have heard of this prank as far back as sixteen years ago, and when I first heard it in junior high it was presented as something that had been making the rounds for quite a while. When we got to high school, we always joked about how the gag didn't exactly work there (because that building did in fact have an elevator, albeit not one open to normal student use). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Whether or not the prank exists, I don't think it could be a reference to that. Clearly, Strong Bad isn't pranking anyone--the pool does exist. He isn't selling pool items or fooling people. I never watched Saved by the Bell that much, but I immediately recognized what he was making fun of: places or things suddenly appearing conveniently, which happens as often in the Homestarrunner universe as anywhere. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::At my school, we had a freight elevator I used to move my drums downstairs, and the upperclassmen convinced me there was a snake pit under there. Oh, and on the subject, I thought that was Strong Bad's pool in A Jumping Jack Contest. [[User:Foxtrotblues| - Foxtrotblues]] 23:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

::::As I said, I really don't think it's a reference to that whether or not the prank exists. And if it is, it shouldn't be in "Remarks." Are there any objections to removing the fact or at least stuffing it? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::You should make that fact a splode.[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:Folks: The Pool has been there forever. We have not seen it for 5 years. If the Marshmallow Shop shows up next week, we won't be talking about it appearing out of nowhere. Please see [[Swimming Pool]] for more. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Einstein and Muffled?==
<blockquote>STRONG BAD: So later on anybody wanna get together a game of "Sharks and Minnows"? "Einstein and [muffled]"? "Pregnant and seventeen"?</blockquote>
It seems to me that Strong Bad says "Einstein and Kreskin," likely a refrence to [[wikipedia:kreskin |The Amazing Kreskin]].
I'll refrain from changing the article untile there's a consensus. [[User:216.229.35.170|216.229.35.170]] 23:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:Well, someone just made the edit. Nevermind.[[User:216.229.35.170|216.229.35.170]] 23:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:Second reference to pregnant teenagers, with the Cheat Commando's setting precedence?
::Sorry, I removed that. Noting the first instance of something is ''sometimes'', conceivably, worthwhile. Noting the second and third and so on gets hard. (Plus, I think "seventeen" was a reference to the magazine, though I haven't found a "''Pregnant''" magazine.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I fail to see how you infer a Seventeen magazine reference here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Inflated The Cheat ==

In regards to the Inside Reference of the Helium email, I'm not certain the cheat is actually inflated, from what I can tell he just seems to be leaning back (or tilting his head up) -{{Tempestryder}}
---He is neither inflated nor lying on his back. I present you with this image.
[[Image:Dacheet.JPG ]]
cessna man!

:I find myself to be skeptical as well. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Well, he sure looks inflated to me... Perhaps not quite in the same way, but much rounder in some way. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::The cheat is a pudge like thing. He has no feet, it kind of just has skin folds near the bottom of him. In order to swim forward, a normal person would need to kick their feet... apparently the cheat leans his bottom half backward and it causes a bend in him, making him look puffed up. He uses his arms to paddle. This also makes him look kind of like a boat. Regardless, I don't think he is inflated at all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Claiming he's inflated is pure speculation. He could easily be arching his body to propel himself across the water's surface. We really don't know anything about his physiology to assume he can or cannot inflate. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::He looks like a duck. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 10:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::He's obviously lying on his stomache lifting his head up. {{User:Salty/sig}} 17:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:Since most of us seem to be in agreement, should the inside reference to Helium made on the article page be removed? --{{User:Tempestryder}}
::I'd say yes, from the looks of it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::: I'd say he's a speedboat, or a hydro. Especially because of the sound effects. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::: now i really really want a the cheat... {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::He looks poofier, but it could be an artist's error (no offesnse TBC). To see examples of artist errors, watch the first episode of Family Guy. Brian's Head keeps changing shape. It's probably just the difficulty of drawing him in this position. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::(sigh) There's no error, I'm sure. To me, The Cheat is arched back, paddling away, making motorboat sounds. Sometimes it's as simple as it looks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Funny and true ==

It has been hot in Sunnyvale, Ca. I know this because I live there. Unfortunately, I didn't write this one, but I'm glad Strong Bad knows about it. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
:Yeah, it's been hot in St. Louis, too. It's been constantly in the triple digits. I sent SB an e-mail 'bout it, but I guess it just didn't cut it. Hey, did your power go out? Mine was out for 5 days.{{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:No, thank god. Of course, we dont have AC, so it wouldnt have made difference, coolness wise. But at least our food didnt cook in the fridge. That blackout must have sucked! -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 01, 19:51:15 UTC
::Yeah, it did. And I just heard that more people in my area who already had their power out for numerous days are going out again- electric company says it's because of the heat. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::guess what! its hot in texas. everybody here is like: "So What?" its always 100 degrees. and we still go to work, outside, in the sun. uphill. both ways. my sympathy truly goes out to the families who have lost ppl. but seriously guys. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Guess what? It's ''always'' hot in Texas. If we lived in Texas, we'd be like "So what?" too. But we don't. And we think it's hot. I'm sorry about the hills. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, we know it's hot in Texas. That's why we don't live there. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 02, 19:09:45 UTC
:::::It's so hot in Chicago! I'd go [[User:Foxtrotblues|complain]] about it but I don't know what to write... [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

===Heat wave===

no doubt about th heat wav. I mean, even in Seattle it's boiling hot! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 06:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:In Michigan, my city had a low temperature of 81 degrees F (27 degrees C) this morning. That's a record high minimum temperature. At eleven o'clock last night, it still felt like (heat index) 100 F (38 C). And that's not the worst of it. Ask the people from St. Louis and central Illinois how hot it is. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

::I live in St. Louis and was getting up in the triple digits pretty much all of last week. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Most of the north SF Bay Area was up in the 110s last weekend (I think the high in my city was 115?). Plus, traffic was terrible as a lot of lights were out. It was awful trying to get around in a car without a/c. Imagine our relief when the heat wave started going down--"Yes! It's in the high 90s!!!!" [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 16:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::You got that right. Here in NC, summer is hard enough normally, but this summer is crazy. It's still in the 80s at 9PM.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 01:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: Actually, I live on the outskirts of Seattle, and the heat wave has (at least for now) passed around here. It dropped to the 60s or low 70s (normal for summer in this area) last weekend. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

This discussion might be better suited to the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum].  I'll leave this here as it displays the meteorogical significance of this toon, but let's move future weather-related discussion to the forum, please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Ool, not Pool ==

After Homestar crashes through Strong Bad's roof. He says "Uh, Strong Bad, I think that total wave ruined your ool." That's "Ool" not "Pool" as the transcript currently reads. This is in reference to the "There is no P in our pool, please keep it that way" Sign referenced in the toon. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
: You could have just updated the transcript yourself and explained your reasoning in the summary... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:: ....oh yeah...duh... Thanks!
:::i think he says "that toadal wave ruined your ool... {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:11, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::It's hard to tell with his lisp. He's not known for pronouncing his Ts. I think "Total" works better anyway. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 02, 19:10:58 UTC

== Goofs - The parenthesis ==

Are you guys sure this is a goof? When i first watched it I took it as an apostrophe. Ie: for the marking of a missing letter --ME!

:I'm confused, so I'll elaborate on what we're talking about: it's the ( right before "Notice." There is an apostrophe on the sign for comparison, i.e. in 'ool. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Ahhh dont mind me then, your right i was wrong. I thought it meant the apostrophe in 'ool :D

== Marzi's green hair ==

Any chance that her green hair is a reference to Diff'rent Strokes? There was an ep where Kimberly washed her hair using acid rain water (which contained lots of chemicals, like the 'ool) and the result was her hair turned green. [[User:AcidHelmNun|Mike]] 06:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Was I the only one reminded of that Falling Sand java game? The "plant" sand is green and burns away like Marzi's hair.
:According from a few posts in the forum, it's apparently a somewhat common real-world occurance for blondes to have their hair turn green from pool chemicals.
I don't think it's a reference to any particular TV show. My wife has very thin, natural blond hair, and when she was young and at the pool all the time, her hair would turn very green. It's a reaction to the chlorine in the water. So, it's not a problem limited to dyed blonds as the article currently states.--[[User:Eepiccolo|eepiccolo]] 15:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I admit it, I was reaching. ;) [[User:AcidHelmNun|Mike]] 04:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I have naturally blonde hair, and my hair turns a slight greenish tint when I've been in a pool with chlorine. It's a natural occurance. And it washes out. --S

== Nu-uh! Still the third wall! ==

The article currently states that when Strong Bad explains what Strongbadia is and is not, it is one of the most abrupt fourth wall breaks to date. There was a discussion over a similar incident a while back in the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Talk:mile talk page for "mile"]. Basically, the Strong Bad emails are based on the premise that he is answering his emails for an audience. I honestly don't care that much about the consistency, but these are the kinds of things the wiki loves to bicker over.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 16:10, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yup. That's why I removed it. Even if it were a break, it's certainly not "one of the most abrupt to date", but it's not. What we're seeing qualifies as Strong Bad's imagination--characters aren't really blank spaces--and simply pointing out which location is Strong Badia and which are not... I have no idea how that's supposed to be a break. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::I put it back. When I originally wrote it, I admitted it could be reworded, so if you see a way to fix it up then feel free. The break is ''not'' the part where we see the character cutouts. The break ''is'' the part where Strong Bad freezes the supposedly live "webcast", takes us on a trip around FCUSA, offers us a high five, and then restarts the action. Essentially he is speaking directly ''for TBC'' and addressing the real viewers—you and me—about an apparently common misconception ''outside the continuity'' of the actual email. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Just wondering--where is it ever stated that sbemails are live? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::You do have a point there — in [[Weclome Back]], Strong Bad was attempting to record a sbemail with a video camera. Nevertheless, that one uncharacteristically had "REC" and a flashing dot in the corner of the screen. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Other instances include The Cheat's watching [[huttah]] on his computer. But never mind the "live" bit; it's secondary to my point. My point is that TBC, using Strong Bad, brought the email to a complete halt and directly addressed the fans in order to clear up something a lot of fans no doubt get wrong. It's also noteworthy that the little digression was not brought up in the rest of the email. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::I thought that Strong Bad pointed out what Strong Badia was because he wanted to trick people into thinking that the pool is in Strong Badia. "In the pool that we've always had... that we use all the time..." reinforces this. This is beside the point of whether or not it's a FWB. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:56, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
"Third wall"... there's a term I've never heard used before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:While I accept that you may be joking there: breaking the fourth wall comes from the thought that the front of the stage in a theater represents a wall of whatever room is portrayed on the set, so by breaking that wall it allows the characters to see (and interact with) the audience. (I have also heard it said that the first wall is letting the characters know the script, 2nd is awareness that thy are in a play, 3rd is ability to change anything based on these, and 4th is audience involvement, but i dont accept this) -- The annony formerly known as DumbMuscle (sister's compy due to technical problems)
:: I know what "breaking the fourth wall" means. My comment was directed at the title of this topic ("Still the third wall!") So... Strong Bad's breaking the third wall or something? (As a note, I have never heard of the "first wall is letting the characters know the script" etc. thing before and think that whoever told it to you made it up.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Sou' Sou'west or South Southwest? ==

In the second Easter Eggs, Strong Sad clearly says "sou' sou'west" instead of "south southwest". Is this a reference to something? I recall similar pronounciations for compass points in the movie "Master and Commander", is it old British Navy jargon? At any rate, I changed the transcript (without explaination, my bad) to reflect this contraction but it was reverted, so I figured I'd start a discussion topic on it.--[[User:Adrock|Adrock]] 20:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
: I don't think it's an intentional reference as much as just how it's said in that dialect [[User:Vash Lupin VI|Vash Lupin VI]] 20:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::I don't know. On one hand, they could be making some kind of joke, or Matt could have just stuttered {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 20:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
"South-southwest" is one of the [[Wikipedia:Boxing the compass|principal points]] on a compass.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::The reference is to a NorEaster, which is a typical way of describing a storm that comes in from the NorthEast.
:::He definitely said sou'sou'west, and yes, this is how mariners talk. among other ways.{{User:Csours/sig}} 05:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Loafing's got a point there. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::It's not a reference to anything. Strong Sad is just dropping consonants because he's relaxed/tired. My NOAA weather radio is always telling me winds are south-southwest at 5-10 knots. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Gah! To the anonymous poster who "defined" a Nor'Easter, you made this meteorologist cringe! Nor'easters move TO the northeast, and typically have northeast winds on their northwestern side ... they definitely do not move southwestward (or from the northeast) ... [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 00:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Was this changed recently, and I missed the memo? From [[Wikipedia:Windsock]]:<blockquote>Note that wind directions are conventionally specified as being the compass point from which the wind originates; so a windsock pointing due north indicates a southerly wind</blockquote>This is the way I've always seen it quoted... a nor'easter blows ''from'' the northeast, a sou'wester blows ''from'' the southwest, and is also a type of [[Wikipedia:Sou'wester|sailor's hat]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:21, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Twin Characters? ==

Does Strong Bad interrupting himself to explain what Strongbadia is count as an appearance of [[Twin Characters]]? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:I don't think so. I think it's a fourth-wall break, discussed above. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::From Twin Characters: "where a single character appears more than once in the same scene." That's all the description given. Why can't it be both? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 03:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Usually, in the Twin Characters instances, they tend to react to each other, I think. Strong Bad's pauses the action, coming up in a separate place entirely. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Agree with DG up above. It's a seperate instance of the same character, the original footage is stopped so that he can make a point and resume. They are in fact the same Strong Bad so it is not an instance of twin characters. Maybe the description should be updated so that it makes more sense. I imagine for the twin characters situation to apply they must react to one another or it must be done in a way so that both characters are in the same scene in "real-time." Or in other words, no pausing the action and then resuming like in this toon.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::yea, not twin characters, post-production. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== strong mad-nami ==

this might be too vague/general/overanalytical for a fun fact, but strong mad jumping into the pool is similar to the action of a tsunami, ie, you dont see the effect in deep water, only when the wave gets to the shallows does the compression lead to a severe rise in water level. just a thought. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

It is too overanalytical. But we can make it better:

The way the tidal wave behaves is similar to the behavior of a [[wikipedia:Tsunami|Tsunami]].
[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

==Left-handed?==

When Strong Bad says "Gimme a high five" he raises his left hand. Could this possibly mean he left-handed. Being right-handed, I find it fairly uncomfortable to high five with my left hand. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 19:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: Although I'm personally of the persuasion that TBC just don't bother keeping track, the consensus here is that Strong Bad is [[Left Handedness|ambidextrous]] (like me!) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

::Being so versatile on the computer, I'd imagine he would be!
[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::ummm............. 'kay.

== Tomby, Dick and harry ==

Is Strong Bad's spelling of tom B as "Tomby" a reference to the videogame character of the same name? - Grover Junior
: No such character, Stu. Perhaps you meant [[Wikipedia:Tomba|Tomba]]? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::Was about to say, ol' Jaycob but you interrupted my edit, although it is spelled 'Tombi' in some versions, hence my mistake - Grover Junior.

==Total wave or turtle wave?==
What exactly does homestar say at the end of the email? I think he says turtle wave. If he does, then it might a reference to the Kamehameha from Dragonball Z. Thoughts?
[[User:66.65.115.218|66.65.115.218]] 20:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Definitely "toadal" or phonetically similar. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: "Reference to the Kamehameha"?! Uh... how? Am I missing something? Anyway, '''total'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::I'm leaning towards total wave. It just seems more like something that Homestar would say, doesn't it? --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:41, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar mixing up words ==

Right now there's an "Inside Reference" that says: "Homestar, as he has done many times, mixes up two words ("total" and "tidal")." Isn't Homestar mixing up words far too common, general and obvious an occurrence to qualify as an Inside Reference? It's not a reference to anything; it's just the way Homestar talks. [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 01:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
:Some foks may say that it's a reference to how he's done that in other cartoons. It's a regular mistake that he's making. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 01:36, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk:keep cool

Chupaqueso — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:32:46 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* Long Pants? */

==DS?==

What do you suppose Homestar's marking as "ds" means? I can think of one that's not family friendly, but other options? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:My guess is on Dumb Star, or something like that. He previously called Homestar that in an email, I think, but I am not sure. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I'm guessing it's a reference to the Nintendo DS. It has been shown again and again that TBC are Nintendo fans. At least, the DS was what I first thought of when I saw that. My two cents. {{User:Alcnolien/sig}} 20:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:::It's almost certainly "duckshirt." That's pretty much a synonym for Homestar, and in [[flashback]], SB uses "Duckshirt" as Homestar's name. [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 20:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I concur: Duckshirt is the answer. [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 14:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yea, I'd have to say duck shirt, it fits better than the other options. [[User:Vash Lupin VI|Vash Lupin VI]] 20:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Maybe it's just the "sb" on the Strong Bad cutout mirrored. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}}
::If that's the case then the "s" would be backwards.
:When I first saw it, it seemed like the "ds" was just a (poor) phonetic spelling of "this". He IS saying that as he cycles through the images. Not everything needs to be a reference! :P This simply seems like a bit of overthinking to me. 16:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, not everything needs to be a reference, but all the other labels are names or nicknames. It's not overthinking if things like it are obviously references.[[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Dosent DS mean Dip Sh**? I remember that from my elemntary school years.--{{User:Finest1/sig}} 12:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:I personally thought Nintendo DS. But duck shirt seems like the best choice. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
Foxtrotblues]] 23:09, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Baseball reference ==

Strongsad's Easteregg mentioning Baseball could be a reference to the MLB Trade Deadline (which ends in 20 minutes)
:Doubtful - TGS11 had a baseball ref too. I think TBC just like baseball. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== Sticklyman's Return! ==
No running, no diving, and no swimming; All represented by the pudding-shoveler himself! --[[User:207.69.139.8|207.69.139.8]] 19:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah, but are you sure it's Sticlyman? Does he have a shovel? Is he into light fighting? Or maybe he's just the typical guy-on-a-sign stick man. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:I hate you. My hopes and dreams rise up and you cruelly shoot them down with your harsh words. I will have my revenge, jerk! --[[User:207.69.139.8|207.69.139.8]] 20:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::That was kind'a rude, Qermac, but I suspect a block-in-progress, Mr. IP {{User:Stongbah/sig}} 21:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:::There was nothing rude about what Qermaq said. He was just making the facts obvious.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::::In a somewhat funny way too. I don't think it's sticklyman. Although I'd like to see him return for another challeeeeenge one day!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::Don't block the IP. It's real hard to express sarcasm on the 'net; it might have been a sarcastic remark. On that note, I think Stinkoman killed Sticklyman. --[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== no clicky on the lappy ==

when you click the lappy's screen, the pressure waves don't show up.

:Sure they do. I just did it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

::They don't show up after Strong Bad falls through the roof. --[[User:Ragey|Ragey]] 22:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== Up, A, and Start ==

Does this reference any particular video game? If it were just Up+A, I'd be sure it was a reference to Metroid or both Legend of Zelda games on the NES (using that code on a second controller would save your progress and restart) but I can't think of any games that used Up+A and Start. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 20:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:You are almost certainly right. In fact, the Up+A on the second controller trick only works when you have paused (pressed start) on the first controller. I'm going to add it to the real-world references section. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:58, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think it refers to any video game, he's just making up a cheat code. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 22:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I agree with Swimma Dan. The Metroid and Zelda references don't make sense because you have to press Start before hand. That's not Up, A, Start, that's Start, A, Up. And if we're going to accept Kirby's Dream Land, where it's Up, A, Select, then are we going to accept codes that go Up, B, Start, or Down, A, Start, or A, Up, Start? Unless someone can find a game code that goes exactly "Up, A, Start", I think this should be changed to a more general reference about video game codes. [[User:70.224.249.166|70.224.249.166]] 00:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Agreed, I figured it was just a generic cheat code thing, not a reference to a specific game. The Zelda reference might make sense, but I think the Kirby one is really stretching it (it's not even the same code!). As for the Metroid thing, I'm probably going to make myself sound really stupid here, but didn't Metroid use ''passwords'', not save files? At least the US version did. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 01:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Metroid did use passwords, Mr. Saturn. However, if you paused and hit Up+A on Controller 2, you would get brought to the password screen, and you can restart the game from there. I've seen this trick in the various tool-assisted speedruns of the game. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 04:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'd have to agree with the Generic Game Code people. We could make a poll though {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::Another point in favor of a reference to the Zelda games and Metroid is that it fits the context. In the games, you would want to save your progress using this trick before you went in to a dungeon or some place where you might die. In the toon, Strong Bad urges swimmers who have just eaten to do this before they reenter the pool, presumably so that if they died they could start again from the point right before entering the pool. If I'm not mistaken, that's part of the joke SB's making. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"If they died they could start again"? I don't see that at all. To me, it sounds like he's just adding something ridiculous onto a list of other ridiculous things. I agree that if TBC were referencing those games, they would have said "Start, A, Up." I think it's just general. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:18, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Well, I think there's enough of a consensus here to remove the fact in question. Oh well :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Long Pants? ==

Is it me, or is Homestar wearing his 'long pants' in the 'ool? (~InvaderJem)
:According the Strongbad, he doesn't have [[long pants]]. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::True, but that's why I put quote-marks. Homestar insists that he wears long pants, though...
:::What are you getting at? {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 20:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Since his "long pants" are really just his bare skin, what else would he be wearing in the pool? It's not like he can take ''that'' off. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 21:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I guess that's true.
::::::Yeah, do you take off your leg skin when you go swimming? And if so, are you some kind of robot? And if so, do you use your powers for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces? I just happen to be the greatest criminal mind of our time.
-[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pooling ==

How about the fact that the "pool" had been previously mentioned here [http://www.homestarrunner.com/hs6.html]

:I think that might pass off as a fun fact. Nice find, there! (~InvaderJem)
::See [[Swimming Pool]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

It seems more likely to be the pool from [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].
:Was there not also a pool mentioned in [[other days]], when Strong Bad had swim practice? Apparently he's finished them as well as lifeguard training since then. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::[[other days]] doesn't directly mention a pool, but where else would Strong Bad and Strong Sad have swim practice?{{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}}
:::They had a pool back in [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] and [[Theme Song Video]]. [[User:75.22.195.241|75.22.195.241]] 02:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::The Color Pallette in the backdrop of the 'ool is similar to the older cartoons, too. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::Color palette? Huh? Anyway, [[Swimming Pool]] mentions all the above. That's the place for pool sightings. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Mr. Chek(h)ov ==

I'm pretty sure this is a double reference to both the writer and the Star Trek character. Yeah, they're spelled differently, but who ever calls Anton Chekhov "Mr. Chekhov"? However, Kirk did call his Chekov "Mr." all the time...
:It's not going to be TTATOT. If they were referencing Star Trek, they'd have spelled it Chekov. They didn't, so I doubt it's a ST reference at all, especially as Chekhov is even more famous. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Not only that, but Anoton Chekhov is someone Strong Sad would be reading. It's Strong Sad. I mean, come on.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes. Obviously, Strong Sad would read Chekhov. So it's a reference to the author. But nobody calls Anton Chekhov "Mr.". That is obviously (I think) a reference to the Star Trek character. It's a joke. And I think that it's worth putting in the explanation because many people won't know what it's about. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I removed the Chekov reference based on points above. It's this, that and the other thing if it's a reference to both. And it's spelled like the author, not the navigator, so it's clear which was being referenced. Now, IF "Mr. Chekov" is included, I can live with it, but not without. Otherwise it's like saying that Monkey D is a reference to Sunny D, Tenacious D and Sandra Dee. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC) (Add: And by "living with it" I am saying I still don't agree, but can let it go. But we're a bit too generous in claiming what's a reference around here. Without an explanation of why "Mr. Chechov" might be referring to a guy with a differently-spelled name, it seems out of place and random, and reduces the knowledge-base-ness of the page.)
:Nice, we were working on it at the same time... I reckon "Mr. Checkov" is simply such an iconic name that "Mr. Chekhov" is an obvious reference for someone who knows Star Trek. And there have been made enough ST references by TBC that I believe they do know ST. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yup; sorry Qermaq, but I gotta disagree with you on this one. If it's not a reference, it's a goof, and I'd like to think they know how to spell it. Plus, suppose they were simply thinking of Chekhov, and Chekov never entered their minds; why choose the "Mr." title? It's a strange choice for an anthology or biography. And it would be a stranger coincidence for it to mirror the Star Trek usage accidentally. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Nah, I don't think this is a goof. Chekhov sounds like the kind of stuff that Strong Sad was reading. He doesn't strike me as the type who reads Star Trek anthologies. Anyway, the way the fact is written now, everybody can make up their own mind. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Progressive progress ==

Is anyone still currently working on the transcript? When I stopped, I took the "inprogress" template off... If whoever's working on it now is going really slowly, that's one thing, but it's kinda rude to leave the template there and just stop. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== The school aways had an elevator! ==

Is anyone else thinking that this particular line might be a reference to Saved by the Bell? Specifically, that time the school suddenly had an elevator for Zack to deliver Mr. Belding's son in? - [[User:81.157.53.124|81.157.53.124]] 21:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

--I think it is a refrence to that, and many other TV shows where the charecters go to a second floor, basement, pool, etc.

Or, maybe it was like my school, where there was no elevator, and there was no swimming pool, but all the freshman were sold swimming pool passes and elevator passes by the upperclassmen.
::It makes more sense that it was the Saved by the Bell episode, because it's referring to how their cartoon and the TV show suddenly and conveniently had something that was never obviously there before for sake of the plot.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::However: they '''have''' always had this pool. Since one of the very first animated toons. So the analogy doesn't really apply, does it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that's true. I'd say maybe TBC forgot, but if you go to the flash file for Theme Song Video and look at how they did the water effect, it looks like the same piece makes up the wavy top of the water in both toons. *shrug* It makes more sense the way I said it. lol. I'm not really sure on this.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Someone, perhaps anonymous above, added a Fun Fact linkin SB's line to a supposedly common prank by upperclassmen of making freshmen believe in nonexistant pools or elevators. I left it alone simply because I can't think of another way to make sense of his line, but at the moment it's a purely anecdotal Fun Fact. If it's going to stay, it would be nice to have some kind of documentation showing that this has happened to more than one person. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::When I saw it, I immediately thought of Saved By The Bell. I've been watching the sbemails for a long time, and I hadn't remembered the pool. Even if they remembered that it was there, the average viewer has never heard of them having a pool, so for SB to say that the pool's always there and they use it all the time seems on par with suddenly announcing Bayside had an elevator, and it's been there all along and people use it all the time.

:I, for one, have heard of this prank as far back as sixteen years ago, and when I first heard it in junior high it was presented as something that had been making the rounds for quite a while. When we got to high school, we always joked about how the gag didn't exactly work there (because that building did in fact have an elevator, albeit not one open to normal student use). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Whether or not the prank exists, I don't think it could be a reference to that. Clearly, Strong Bad isn't pranking anyone--the pool does exist. He isn't selling pool items or fooling people. I never watched Saved by the Bell that much, but I immediately recognized what he was making fun of: places or things suddenly appearing conveniently, which happens as often in the Homestarrunner universe as anywhere. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::At my school, we had a freight elevator I used to move my drums downstairs, and the upperclassmen convinced me there was a snake pit under there. Oh, and on the subject, I thought that was Strong Bad's pool in A Jumping Jack Contest. [[User:Foxtrotblues| - Foxtrotblues]] 23:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

::::As I said, I really don't think it's a reference to that whether or not the prank exists. And if it is, it shouldn't be in "Remarks." Are there any objections to removing the fact or at least stuffing it? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::You should make that fact a splode.[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:Folks: The Pool has been there forever. We have not seen it for 5 years. If the Marshmallow Shop shows up next week, we won't be talking about it appearing out of nowhere. Please see [[Swimming Pool]] for more. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Einstein and Muffled?==
<blockquote>STRONG BAD: So later on anybody wanna get together a game of "Sharks and Minnows"? "Einstein and [muffled]"? "Pregnant and seventeen"?</blockquote>
It seems to me that Strong Bad says "Einstein and Kreskin," likely a refrence to [[wikipedia:kreskin |The Amazing Kreskin]].
I'll refrain from changing the article untile there's a consensus. [[User:216.229.35.170|216.229.35.170]] 23:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:Well, someone just made the edit. Nevermind.[[User:216.229.35.170|216.229.35.170]] 23:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:Second reference to pregnant teenagers, with the Cheat Commando's setting precedence?
::Sorry, I removed that. Noting the first instance of something is ''sometimes'', conceivably, worthwhile. Noting the second and third and so on gets hard. (Plus, I think "seventeen" was a reference to the magazine, though I haven't found a "''Pregnant''" magazine.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I fail to see how you infer a Seventeen magazine reference here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Inflated The Cheat ==

In regards to the Inside Reference of the Helium email, I'm not certain the cheat is actually inflated, from what I can tell he just seems to be leaning back (or tilting his head up) -{{Tempestryder}}
---He is neither inflated nor lying on his back. I present you with this image.
[[Image:Dacheet.JPG ]]
cessna man!

:I find myself to be skeptical as well. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Well, he sure looks inflated to me... Perhaps not quite in the same way, but much rounder in some way. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::The cheat is a pudge like thing. He has no feet, it kind of just has skin folds near the bottom of him. In order to swim forward, a normal person would need to kick their feet... apparently the cheat leans his bottom half backward and it causes a bend in him, making him look puffed up. He uses his arms to paddle. This also makes him look kind of like a boat. Regardless, I don't think he is inflated at all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Claiming he's inflated is pure speculation. He could easily be arching his body to propel himself across the water's surface. We really don't know anything about his physiology to assume he can or cannot inflate. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::He looks like a duck. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 10:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::He's obviously lying on his stomache lifting his head up. {{User:Salty/sig}} 17:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:Since most of us seem to be in agreement, should the inside reference to Helium made on the article page be removed? --{{User:Tempestryder}}
::I'd say yes, from the looks of it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::: I'd say he's a speedboat, or a hydro. Especially because of the sound effects. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::: now i really really want a the cheat... {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::He looks poofier, but it could be an artist's error (no offesnse TBC). To see examples of artist errors, watch the first episode of Family Guy. Brian's Head keeps changing shape. It's probably just the difficulty of drawing him in this position. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::(sigh) There's no error, I'm sure. To me, The Cheat is arched back, paddling away, making motorboat sounds. Sometimes it's as simple as it looks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Funny and true ==

It has been hot in Sunnyvale, Ca. I know this because I live there. Unfortunately, I didn't write this one, but I'm glad Strong Bad knows about it. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
:Yeah, it's been hot in St. Louis, too. It's been constantly in the triple digits. I sent SB an e-mail 'bout it, but I guess it just didn't cut it. Hey, did your power go out? Mine was out for 5 days.{{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:No, thank god. Of course, we dont have AC, so it wouldnt have made difference, coolness wise. But at least our food didnt cook in the fridge. That blackout must have sucked! -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 01, 19:51:15 UTC
::Yeah, it did. And I just heard that more people in my area who already had their power out for numerous days are going out again- electric company says it's because of the heat. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::guess what! its hot in texas. everybody here is like: "So What?" its always 100 degrees. and we still go to work, outside, in the sun. uphill. both ways. my sympathy truly goes out to the families who have lost ppl. but seriously guys. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Guess what? It's ''always'' hot in Texas. If we lived in Texas, we'd be like "So what?" too. But we don't. And we think it's hot. I'm sorry about the hills. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, we know it's hot in Texas. That's why we don't live there. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 02, 19:09:45 UTC
:::::It's so hot in Chicago! I'd go [[User:Foxtrotblues|complain]] about it but I don't know what to write... [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

===Heat wave===

no doubt about th heat wav. I mean, even in Seattle it's boiling hot! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 06:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:In Michigan, my city had a low temperature of 81 degrees F (27 degrees C) this morning. That's a record high minimum temperature. At eleven o'clock last night, it still felt like (heat index) 100 F (38 C). And that's not the worst of it. Ask the people from St. Louis and central Illinois how hot it is. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

::I live in St. Louis and was getting up in the triple digits pretty much all of last week. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Most of the north SF Bay Area was up in the 110s last weekend (I think the high in my city was 115?). Plus, traffic was terrible as a lot of lights were out. It was awful trying to get around in a car without a/c. Imagine our relief when the heat wave started going down--"Yes! It's in the high 90s!!!!" [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 16:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::You got that right. Here in NC, summer is hard enough normally, but this summer is crazy. It's still in the 80s at 9PM.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 01:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: Actually, I live on the outskirts of Seattle, and the heat wave has (at least for now) passed around here. It dropped to the 60s or low 70s (normal for summer in this area) last weekend. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

This discussion might be better suited to the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum].  I'll leave this here as it displays the meteorogical significance of this toon, but let's move future weather-related discussion to the forum, please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Ool, not Pool ==

After Homestar crashes through Strong Bad's roof. He says "Uh, Strong Bad, I think that total wave ruined your ool." That's "Ool" not "Pool" as the transcript currently reads. This is in reference to the "There is no P in our pool, please keep it that way" Sign referenced in the toon. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
: You could have just updated the transcript yourself and explained your reasoning in the summary... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:: ....oh yeah...duh... Thanks!
:::i think he says "that toadal wave ruined your ool... {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:11, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::It's hard to tell with his lisp. He's not known for pronouncing his Ts. I think "Total" works better anyway. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 02, 19:10:58 UTC

== Goofs - The parenthesis ==

Are you guys sure this is a goof? When i first watched it I took it as an apostrophe. Ie: for the marking of a missing letter --ME!

:I'm confused, so I'll elaborate on what we're talking about: it's the ( right before "Notice." There is an apostrophe on the sign for comparison, i.e. in 'ool. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Ahhh dont mind me then, your right i was wrong. I thought it meant the apostrophe in 'ool :D

== Marzi's green hair ==

Any chance that her green hair is a reference to Diff'rent Strokes? There was an ep where Kimberly washed her hair using acid rain water (which contained lots of chemicals, like the 'ool) and the result was her hair turned green. [[User:AcidHelmNun|Mike]] 06:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Was I the only one reminded of that Falling Sand java game? The "plant" sand is green and burns away like Marzi's hair.
:According from a few posts in the forum, it's apparently a somewhat common real-world occurance for blondes to have their hair turn green from pool chemicals.
I don't think it's a reference to any particular TV show. My wife has very thin, natural blond hair, and when she was young and at the pool all the time, her hair would turn very green. It's a reaction to the chlorine in the water. So, it's not a problem limited to dyed blonds as the article currently states.--[[User:Eepiccolo|eepiccolo]] 15:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I admit it, I was reaching. ;) [[User:AcidHelmNun|Mike]] 04:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I have naturally blonde hair, and my hair turns a slight greenish tint when I've been in a pool with chlorine. It's a natural occurance. And it washes out. --S

== Nu-uh! Still the third wall! ==

The article currently states that when Strong Bad explains what Strongbadia is and is not, it is one of the most abrupt fourth wall breaks to date. There was a discussion over a similar incident a while back in the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Talk:mile talk page for "mile"]. Basically, the Strong Bad emails are based on the premise that he is answering his emails for an audience. I honestly don't care that much about the consistency, but these are the kinds of things the wiki loves to bicker over.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 16:10, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yup. That's why I removed it. Even if it were a break, it's certainly not "one of the most abrupt to date", but it's not. What we're seeing qualifies as Strong Bad's imagination--characters aren't really blank spaces--and simply pointing out which location is Strong Badia and which are not... I have no idea how that's supposed to be a break. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::I put it back. When I originally wrote it, I admitted it could be reworded, so if you see a way to fix it up then feel free. The break is ''not'' the part where we see the character cutouts. The break ''is'' the part where Strong Bad freezes the supposedly live "webcast", takes us on a trip around FCUSA, offers us a high five, and then restarts the action. Essentially he is speaking directly ''for TBC'' and addressing the real viewers—you and me—about an apparently common misconception ''outside the continuity'' of the actual email. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Just wondering--where is it ever stated that sbemails are live? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::You do have a point there — in [[Weclome Back]], Strong Bad was attempting to record a sbemail with a video camera. Nevertheless, that one uncharacteristically had "REC" and a flashing dot in the corner of the screen. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Other instances include The Cheat's watching [[huttah]] on his computer. But never mind the "live" bit; it's secondary to my point. My point is that TBC, using Strong Bad, brought the email to a complete halt and directly addressed the fans in order to clear up something a lot of fans no doubt get wrong. It's also noteworthy that the little digression was not brought up in the rest of the email. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::I thought that Strong Bad pointed out what Strong Badia was because he wanted to trick people into thinking that the pool is in Strong Badia. "In the pool that we've always had... that we use all the time..." reinforces this. This is beside the point of whether or not it's a FWB. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:56, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
"Third wall"... there's a term I've never heard used before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:While I accept that you may be joking there: breaking the fourth wall comes from the thought that the front of the stage in a theater represents a wall of whatever room is portrayed on the set, so by breaking that wall it allows the characters to see (and interact with) the audience. (I have also heard it said that the first wall is letting the characters know the script, 2nd is awareness that thy are in a play, 3rd is ability to change anything based on these, and 4th is audience involvement, but i dont accept this) -- The annony formerly known as DumbMuscle (sister's compy due to technical problems)
:: I know what "breaking the fourth wall" means. My comment was directed at the title of this topic ("Still the third wall!") So... Strong Bad's breaking the third wall or something? (As a note, I have never heard of the "first wall is letting the characters know the script" etc. thing before and think that whoever told it to you made it up.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Sou' Sou'west or South Southwest? ==

In the second Easter Eggs, Strong Sad clearly says "sou' sou'west" instead of "south southwest". Is this a reference to something? I recall similar pronounciations for compass points in the movie "Master and Commander", is it old British Navy jargon? At any rate, I changed the transcript (without explaination, my bad) to reflect this contraction but it was reverted, so I figured I'd start a discussion topic on it.--[[User:Adrock|Adrock]] 20:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
: I don't think it's an intentional reference as much as just how it's said in that dialect [[User:Vash Lupin VI|Vash Lupin VI]] 20:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::I don't know. On one hand, they could be making some kind of joke, or Matt could have just stuttered {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 20:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
"South-southwest" is one of the [[Wikipedia:Boxing the compass|principal points]] on a compass.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::The reference is to a NorEaster, which is a typical way of describing a storm that comes in from the NorthEast.
:::He definitely said sou'sou'west, and yes, this is how mariners talk. among other ways.{{User:Csours/sig}} 05:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Loafing's got a point there. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::It's not a reference to anything. Strong Sad is just dropping consonants because he's relaxed/tired. My NOAA weather radio is always telling me winds are south-southwest at 5-10 knots. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Gah! To the anonymous poster who "defined" a Nor'Easter, you made this meteorologist cringe! Nor'easters move TO the northeast, and typically have northeast winds on their northwestern side ... they definitely do not move southwestward (or from the northeast) ... [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 00:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Was this changed recently, and I missed the memo? From [[Wikipedia:Windsock]]:<blockquote>Note that wind directions are conventionally specified as being the compass point from which the wind originates; so a windsock pointing due north indicates a southerly wind</blockquote>This is the way I've always seen it quoted... a nor'easter blows ''from'' the northeast, a sou'wester blows ''from'' the southwest, and is also a type of [[Wikipedia:Sou'wester|sailor's hat]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:21, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Twin Characters? ==

Does Strong Bad interrupting himself to explain what Strongbadia is count as an appearance of [[Twin Characters]]? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:I don't think so. I think it's a fourth-wall break, discussed above. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::From Twin Characters: "where a single character appears more than once in the same scene." That's all the description given. Why can't it be both? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 03:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Usually, in the Twin Characters instances, they tend to react to each other, I think. Strong Bad's pauses the action, coming up in a separate place entirely. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Agree with DG up above. It's a seperate instance of the same character, the original footage is stopped so that he can make a point and resume. They are in fact the same Strong Bad so it is not an instance of twin characters. Maybe the description should be updated so that it makes more sense. I imagine for the twin characters situation to apply they must react to one another or it must be done in a way so that both characters are in the same scene in "real-time." Or in other words, no pausing the action and then resuming like in this toon.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::yea, not twin characters, post-production. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== strong mad-nami ==

this might be too vague/general/overanalytical for a fun fact, but strong mad jumping into the pool is similar to the action of a tsunami, ie, you dont see the effect in deep water, only when the wave gets to the shallows does the compression lead to a severe rise in water level. just a thought. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

It is too overanalytical. But we can make it better:

The way the tidal wave behaves is similar to the behavior of a [[wikipedia:Tsunami|Tsunami]].
[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

==Left-handed?==

When Strong Bad says "Gimme a high five" he raises his left hand. Could this possibly mean he left-handed. Being right-handed, I find it fairly uncomfortable to high five with my left hand. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 19:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: Although I'm personally of the persuasion that TBC just don't bother keeping track, the consensus here is that Strong Bad is [[Left Handedness|ambidextrous]] (like me!) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

::Being so versatile on the computer, I'd imagine he would be!
[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Tomby, Dick and harry ==

Is Strong Bad's spelling of tom B as "Tomby" a reference to the videogame character of the same name? - Grover Junior
: No such character, Stu. Perhaps you meant [[Wikipedia:Tomba|Tomba]]? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::Was about to say, ol' Jaycob but you interrupted my edit, although it is spelled 'Tombi' in some versions, hence my mistake - Grover Junior.

==Total wave or turtle wave?==
What exactly does homestar say at the end of the email? I think he says turtle wave. If he does, then it might a reference to the Kamehameha from Dragonball Z. Thoughts?
[[User:66.65.115.218|66.65.115.218]] 20:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Definitely "toadal" or phonetically similar. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: "Reference to the Kamehameha"?! Uh... how? Am I missing something? Anyway, '''total'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar mixing up words ==

Right now there's an "Inside Reference" that says: "Homestar, as he has done many times, mixes up two words ("total" and "tidal")." Isn't Homestar mixing up words far too common, general and obvious an occurrence to qualify as an Inside Reference? It's not a reference to anything; it's just the way Homestar talks. [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 01:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Summer Short Shorts

Chupaqueso — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:38:57 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* Blue Collar TV reference? */

==Pom Pom segment==
Anyone want to bet how long it'll take before someone claims this is a Naruto reference? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:You mean like [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Summer_Short_Shorts&diff=348440&oldid=348439 here?] --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::D'oh! [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I was a bit fast on that one. But somehow you've just proven that it's obviously Naruto :-P {{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Did any of you notice that part of this segment contradicts the "Strong Bad is in jail catoon"? In the begining of said cartoon, Strong Bad and The Cheat run up to Bub's Concession Stand which is shown right next to the woods. But when Pom Pom does that huge jump in this segment, it appears that Strong Badia is located between the woods and the Concession Stand. Weird o_0. [[User:Scholar of Homestar|Scholar of Homestar]] 15:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Obviously Naruto, or Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, or House of Flying Daggers, or any other film where people fly through the trees. Actually I'm inclined to say it's more of a reference to live action martial arts because of way Pom Pom hovers above the ground before seems to parody the effect of using counterweight harnesses to give the effect of actors jumping incredibly high. I've never seen any of the ninjas on Naruto do that. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, it's a reference to Prowlies at the River: http://www.biteycastle.com/prowlies.html
::::::Or it could be any movie/cartoon with lots of jumping through a forrest. as stated above.
Actually-actually ;), I thought people would think it was a Naruto reference because of the backgrounds. Although those backgrounds don't feature in the Naruto show in and of itself, it does feature in Cartoon Network's ads for Naruto, and add that with the ninja references and you'll see how people could get the idea. Without those backgrounds, it's just generic anime martial arts stuff. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 00:42, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
::Wow. And my first thought on seeing it was that it was a reference to "Ninja Scroll". But it's probably true... just a generic ninja anime/wuxia reference.
:*I thought the hovering was just because Pom Pom's a floatyman, like in the Yello Dello. I'm glad to see him get some screen time, though![[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
I think the fun fact "The sky can be seen inside Bubs' Concession Stand during Pom Pom's scene. This would only be possible if one of the walls were missing" should probably be in remarks instead of goofs, because it's almost certainly a stylistic thing, rather than a real error.
--[[User:LuigiHann|LuigiHann]] 01:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== First forest ==

Is it worth mentioning that this is the first instance of a forest in the standard animation style? [[User:216.232.210.238|216.232.210.238]] 08:07, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:Sure. I mean, that could be the creepy halloween forest during summer, but still...--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 14:09, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== pi=pie? ==
Does anyone else think the Pi reference in this and weclome back could tie in with the pie running joke?

:I think you got it [http://clampettstudio.com/images/archives/wb/WB1026-PiE.jpg confused]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Eggselent ==

I don't believe that Homestar says "Eggs, can I get you gentlemen..." I think he says the more logical "And". Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:Definatly sounds like "And" to me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::I leaning towards "And". {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:18, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Ef=ggs!
::::I think it should read "and", but I just wanted to say yes, I initially wondered whether he was saying "eggs". —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Coz I hear a faint S sound on the end and I did the transcription is why. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Raising the Seek Bar... ==

[[Image:LaBrea.PNG|thumb|Seek bars not spake here.]]
Lapper removed the Transcript edit about Cave Strong Bad's feet poking out from under the tar pit. He said it only comes up when you use a Seek Bar. I present to you: exhibit A. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:48, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I removed it because I checked on that a few hours ago and thought it was only the seek bar. But I did a very sloppy check. You were absolutely right. (btw, I'm not Lapper) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:51, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::Sorry. Guess you're not the only one who did a sloppy check. Happens to the best of us. And me, too. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I didn't know if you were just trying to prove that it happens or that it's an error on their part. Because if you think it's a glitch, I think it was done badly on purpose because it's PBTC. Notice there are two layers of Strong Bad's head that appear and disappear over each other too. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 10:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::::That's why it's in the transcript and not in the goofs section. ;-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

== From the front to the back... ==

So these pants we are staring at: Are these from the front or the back? I can't really tell. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I say the front.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC) [[Image:Goodgraphics.PNG|thumb]]
::Back, and thus a double entendre on "end." [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 12:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Nice idea, but the same image is shown in the beginning and in the end.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Can't Really Tell. -{{User:Homsar7/sig}}
:::::I don't really think it matters. And anyway, does anyone else think it's a ''little'' strange to be starring at Matt's shorts to try to figure out if it's the front of the back? {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 02:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I agree it's weird, lol. But I think it's the back too. Just try to imagine knee caps below where the image is cut off. Just.. doesn't.. seem... natural. Looks like the back of the legs. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 10:09, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

== Excuse Me While I Kiss This Guy ==

I think the lyrics for "Brain Sister" are wrong (The trancscriber didn't seem too confident anyway). The line "She's a {mile?} away" sounds like it ends "all day" to me, not "away". Obviously "She's a mile all day" makes no sense at all, So I'm pretty sure that whole line is wrong. Can anybody make it out? [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:26, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:And I don't seem able to manage any more than "She {three syllables} all day". I'm giving up for now. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I can't quite make it out, but to me it sounds more like "a low-res beauty queen" rather than a "lonely". [[User:67.42.210.44|67.42.210.44]] 20:49, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
I think it's something like "{something} texas all day". [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 20:55, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I heard "low-res" the first two times, until I read the transcript. It's kinda mushy though, with the background music, so it's hard to tell.[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
::I hear "lonely", and "away"... I put in the "She's a {mile?} away" bit, after trying, without much success, to dampen the guitar and such in Audacity... it sounds kinda (to me) like "She's a [[Wikipedia:-izzle|mizz-ile]] away", but I didn't think that fitted with the Limozeen genre... hence the braces and the question mark. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
:::The two times it says 'And she would never tell you you could do it!' are wrong... I hear something like 'And she remembers how to get to *indistinguishable*!'
A lot of people are reverting and editing all the lyrics. Just look at the quote of the week! It gives the exact lyrics. I"m not going to try and edit them anyone because somebody might yell at me.[[User:199.224.118.156|199.224.118.156]] 21:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
: Only one person reverted the lyrics: me. And I hadn't checked the QoW so I didn't realize it'd been updated. My bad. I already fixed it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::The [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Summer_Short_Shorts&diff=349549&oldid=349541 original transcript] of the Limozeen song wasn't just wrong, it wasn't even close. Like, it wasn't even ''close'' to close. Close and it had never met. So I wonder if TBC made that the QotW for our sake. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:::And, yea verily, the Brothers Chaps did end this most screwy argument by revealing the truth within a humble Quote of the Week.
::::That's it; I'm now convinced TBC monitor our confusions and use QoWs and DVD commentaries where they can to solve them. Though in this case, I don't know anyone would have been expected to get all that by ear. "Th'all"? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I know the QotW explicitly says "2017", but I think the Bros. Chaps had to truncate it to make it fit within the QotW box. I tried changing it to "twenty-seventeen", as I think it makes much more sense in context, but as expected, it was changed back to agree with the QotW version. Any thoughts? Agree? Disagree?--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:02, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
:TBC said it's "2017", so it is "2017". Even if you would have liked them to say "twenty-seventeen". And how do you know "she" is not a calculator, maybe the old [http://www.oldcalculatormuseum.com/a-bus2017-1.html 2017]? The song would still make sense (well, as much as it does make sense). Or 2017 is her height in millimeters? You don't know. So better stick with what TBC said.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
::For the record, I ''do'' think they printed it that way to fit in the box. I think we should use 2017 in the transcript, but goodness sake, look how packed the box was already and the twelve characters they saved! But yeah, as intriguing as the calculator idea is, I think it's meant in an age sense, as a play on the Beatles line, and in a number-formation play like [[Tooty-two|tooty-two]] and "[[Wikipedia:110 (number)|eleventy-one]]". —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Fries and Catsup ==

Arn't they the same as from the e-mail [[funny]], from the "Computer Catsup" scene?
:Yes, unless you count "computer Catsup" as different. {{User:Steve/sig}} 17:33, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Captain Caveman ==

It's not nearly close enough for me to try to suggest that this was intentional, but the spots on Marzipan's cavewoman outfit remind me of the spots on [[Wikipedia:Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels|Captain Caveman]]'s cape. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

:From looking at [[Wikipedia:Image:Caveman.jpg|that picture]] i see that the cape was orange and the spots were circular. Marzipan is wearing brown and the spots are oddly shaped. Sorry to crush your hopes and dreams, {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 23:58, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:(Edit conflict) Much unlike the spots on [[Wikipedia:Fred Flintstone|Fred Flintstone's]] fashionable outfit of course ;-) I think it's just a caveman cliche.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:00, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

== Winger ==

I would like just to add that the Limozeen song might also be a reference to the Winger song, "seventeen".
Sincerely, Very Anonymous
:Is there any other reason than the title? There are many [[IMDB:seventeen|movies]] having "seventeen" in the title, and I'm sure there are even more songs. [[Wikipedia:Seventeen (song)|Here]] are some, and [[Wikipedia:Sixteen Going On Seventeen|here]] is one more. What makes the Winger song stand out?{{User:Loafing/sig}}

:I have 2 reasons
*1. It says "She's only seventeen"
*2. Winger is a metal band as well, as opposed to the Beatles.
:Sincerely, Anonymous
::I'm still not quite convinced. Actually, after looking at the Limozeen lyrics again, I'm no longer sure the Beatles reference is very obvious. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:42, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

==Some 'splainin' to do?==
Is the Explanation "The Limozeen sequence simulates a laser show" even remotely necessary? What could it possibly be mistaken for? It's like saying "The sequence with Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and The Cheat simulates eating in a restaurant." -- [[User:69.168.10.233|69.168.10.233]] 02:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

: Not necessarily. Some people might not realize it's supposed to be a laser light show, and miss the laser light that is drawing the images behind it. They might think it's a weird art style. *shrug* -- {{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
::It's there mostly to hang the [[Wikipedia:Laser lighting display|link to Wikipedia]], so that, as Bleed0range mentioned, people who don't know what a laser show is can find out. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:55, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I didn't know it was a laser show because I'd never heard that term before. It's useful enough. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 15:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Seems ok to me. Not everybody knows what a laser show is (Do they still do those?) And I'll corroborate that I missed the connection until I saw the fun fact. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 22:47, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
:I have replaced the link to Wikipedia with a link to [[Lasers]], which in turn links to [[Wikipedia:Laser lighting display|Wikipedia]]. I'm not sure if the laser bit should now be moved from Explanations to Inside References.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

== "Bliiiing"? ==

I coulda swore that Homestar said "Bootleg!" instead of "Bliiiiing!" Sounds a lot like "Bootleg" to me. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 13:40, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
: I'm not sure what Homestar is saying, but it has a long "E" sound, so no "Bootleg". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:51, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
::When originally transcribed, I wrote "budeling" (pronounce as "boo-deh-ling"). Next day I come back, and it's changed, and I'm wondering why... I think it's just nonsense anyway... But I think it has too many syllables to just be "bliiiing". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I hear it as "Wiiiiiiing". {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:59, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I hear it as 'Boodaliiing!', pronounced boo-dah-ling with the ling being stretched out. [[User:Yadaman|Yadaman]] 20:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I changed it because I can't hear three syllables at all. I think it's more like "bliiiiing" with the "b" detached from the "liiiing". So I guess I'm really hearing "Bu-liiiiing".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Sorry, but I hear no "ling" anywhere in it. I hear "Boo-diiiing" and that's all I hear.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 09:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

==Blue Collar TV reference?==

Could this possibly be a reference to Blue Collar TV, you know, with the short skits that are pretty dry? {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 02:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
:It could be a reference to any number of TV shows/Flash cartoons/movies. For a couple of examples, [[Wikipedia:22 Short Films About Springfield|22 Short Films About Springfield]], the [[Wikipedia:Dave Kelly (artist)#The Flash Tub|Flash Tub]]'s "Tub Bites!", [[Wikipedia:And Now For Something Completely Different|And Now For Something Completely Different]]... --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 03:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::I think it's pretty much just a reference to Robot Chicken. The skits are pretty much unrelated to each other and the static on the tv appears when changing skits, or at least it did on the first one if I remember correctly. That's just like Robot Chicken.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Robot Chicken satirizes TV shows, has a different kind of humour and many more torn off limbs than we see in SSS. The only things they have in common are the static and the fact that it's a clip show. And that's way too generic to be a reference.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:10, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Well then I don't think it's trying to reference anything in particular outside the generic idea of a clip show.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 09:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, I agree with Breed Orange. But if you really think it is robot chicken, let's take a vote. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:18, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I don't really think it's a reference to anything, its just a bunch of short toons. Probably stuff that they made but couldn't find any other places to use them in. -- [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 18:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

== Too many ones... ==

Hey! You guys think that maybe all these ones (warm ones, not so cold ones, 'old ones, and the like) are running gags stemming from [[property of ones]]? I mean, the different variations didn't appear until [[property of ones]]...-[[User:Foxtrotblues|
Foxtrotblues]] 04:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, see [[Cold One]]. One of my more favorite Inside Jokes. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Kid Speedy

Chupaqueso — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:46:58 GMT

Chupaqueso: Thought this seemed more correct.

{{gamenav|New Game|kidspeedy|Thy Dungeonman 3|TROGDOR!}}
[[Image:kidspeedy.PNG|thumb|The slowest poke]]

''"Who's faster than Kid Speedy? EVERYBODY!! This little fatso is the slowest poke in the bunch. Try not to get dead last while avoiding sweets and insults in this hilarious arcade-style race 'em up."'' — Videlectrix

'''Kid Speedy''' is a game in which you play the character Kid Speedy, trying to win a race (or, at least, not come in last). The game was originally mentioned in the [[Videlectrix]] game catalog; it was made available for play on July 10, 2006.

'''Page Title:''' Don't Forget Your Inhaler!

==The Game==
[[Image:Kidspeedy intstructions.PNG|thumb|Instructions]]
To qualify for the next race, you must finish the four-man race third place or above. By collecting vegetables and happy faces, you make Kid Speedy go faster. Collecting junk food or insults causes Kid Speedy to lose all speed.
The player can race Kid Speedy on eight different courses: Jelly Woods Fun Run, Cheese Puff Hills, Porkchop Wilds 5K, Egg Mountain Minithon, Probate Flats Walk-a-thon, [[Wikipedia:Indiana|Indiana]], The Loop, and Demon's Rub Marathon. Each track has borders resembling the name (example: Cheese Puff Hills has orange borders).

The game consists of two modes: 1 Player and "Online Play". However, all of the runners, in both modes, are computer controlled. The loading online players screen is just for show.

If you do not finish dead last, you "Qualify". If you lose, you get the message "You Came Dead Last."

==The Ending==
[[Image:Kidspeedy ending.PNG|thumb|YOU GOT NOT DEAD LAST!]]
''{Three runners are standing on a stand, cheering. A blimp flies overhead reading "WIN!" The camera pans left to Kid Speedy, who is bouncing up and down.}''

'''NARRATOR:''' ''{subtitled}'' CONGRATULATIONS! YOU GOT NOT DEAD LAST!

''{Kid Speedy walks off-screen to the left and enters a city scene. He is walking down a sidewalk beside a brick wall.}''

'''NARRATOR:''' ''{subtitled}'' KID SPEEDY WON A 2 DOLLAR CONSOLATION PRIZE...

''{Kid Speedy enters a room with a woman and television set inside. Kid Speedy bounces up and down again. Kid Speedy's dialogue is in while subtitles while his mom's is black.}''

'''KID SPEEDY:''' ''{subtitled}'' MOM! I WON 2 BUCKS!

'''KID SPEEDY'S MOM:''' ''{subtitled}'' NOW WE HAVE ENOUGH TO GET THE ORPHANAGE ITS OPERATION!

'''KID SPEEDY'S MOM:''' ''{subtitled}'' HOORAY! 
'''KID SPEEDY:''' ''{simutaneously; subtitled}'' HOORAY!

''{A screen showing yellow, blown-up text "the end" appears.}''

==Fun Facts==
[[Image:Kidspeedy strong sad mode.PNG|thumb|Strong Sad mode]]
===Explanations===
*The term "Race 'em up" is based on the more logically named term "Shoot 'em up".
*Kid Speedy is most likely a parody of "learning" computer games.
**Speed is earned by eating healthful foods, and lost by eating junk food.

===Trivia===
*Each race starts with the message "Ready! Set! Ok, now go."
*If you win the game, you unlock "Strong Sad Mode", where your character becomes [[Strong Sad]]. However, during the ending scene, your character will change back to Kid Speedy.
*When you play the last race, a group of runners pass you and your opponents very quickly.
[[Image:Kid speedy box art.PNG|thumb|Kid Speedy box art]]
*Currently, the box art for Kid Speedy reads "BOX ART UNAVAILABLE!".

===Inside References===
*"NEB", a possible opponent in Online Mode, may be a reference to [[Nebulon]].

===Real-World References===
*The "Indiana" and "The Loop" levels are likely inspired by the the arcade racing game, [[Wikipedia:Cruis'n USA|Cruis'n USA]], which features Chicago and Indiana venues.
*"Wide Loading" (on the [[Irregular Loading Screens|loading screen]]) is a reference to the "Wide Load" sign which appears on trucks carrying large items. It is also used as a slang term for "fat".
*On the flash file of Kid Speedy, there are three other runners to the left of the screen and they seem to be wearing colors of flags: [[Wikipedia:Sweden|Sweden]] and [[Wikipedia:Germany|Germany]]. The other runner wears white, red, and green. This may be the flag of [[Wikipedia:Burundi|Burundi]], [[Wikipedia:Italy|Italy]], [[Wikipedia:Algeria|Algeria]], [[Wikipedia:Bulgaria|Bulgaria]], [[Wikipedia:Hungary|Hungary]], [[Wikipedia:Iran|Iran]], or [[Wikipedia:Oman|Oman]]. These runners are later seen in the ending.
*When Kid Speedy trips on the finish line, he does so in the same manner and sound as does the character in [[wikipedia:NES|NES's]] Track & Field I.
*The end sequence is a reference to the common movie theme of competing in a race or other competition to win money to either save an orphange, or pay for an operation. In this case, it was to pay for an operation FOR an orphanage.

===Possible Names in Online Mode===
*There are several possible names that you can get as opponents in Online Mode. Each three-letter name includes a number following their name, while four-letter names do not.
**BOB
**[[Dan|DAN]]
**[[Nebulon|NEB]]
**POG
**FMV
**STAN
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Talk:Quote of the Week

Chupaqueso — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 17:13:34 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* Latest quote: 80s rock influence? */

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<div style="background:#CFC; border: 1px dashed #090; padding:10px">
'''Checklist for new Weeklies:'''
*Add appropriate new entries to [[Quote of the Week]], [[Weekly Fanstuff]] and [[Sketchbook]].
*Add a new {{tl|qotw}} line to the Quote of the Week character's page.
*Check that the previous week's quote is on the mirror (Change the link to Mirror:, Show Preview and click the link)
**If it is, change it on [[Quote of the Week]] and the appropriate character page.
*Update [[Secret Pages XML Source#Weeklies XML File]] with [[HR:weeklies/weeklies.xml|weeklies.xml]] (click View->Page Source and copy/paste)
</div> 

==Uniformity==
The fact that these dates won't line up is driving me nuts. Is there some snippet of code we can use to add a date in a sort of uniform manner? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 13:38, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Ask and ye shall receive. Actually, I came here to ask you if you liked the table, but found your note. You like? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:50, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)
::Yeah, it looks wicked! I looked at the code, and even though it's probably rudimentary HTML, I'm lost on it. That's probably gonna be your thing. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 13:55, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::Okay, I did the whole thing. It looks kind of weird now, since some of the quotes are so long. I don't like how the date and download links get moved down. How about another form of writing the date? I tried another one in the first three, check it out. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:05, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

::::It looks pretty good, but not uniform, ya know? How can we make the long quotey ones look...not jacked up? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:09, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::::Yeah. [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table This] might be of some help. I think this might be the most confusing Wiki format there is. Maybe someone else has some ideas... Joey? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:17, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

::::::This may be a stupid question, but can you use html throughout MediaWiki? Or just when creating tables? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:38, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::::::I think it works everywhere. Strong? Em? <strike>Strike?</strike> <tt>Tt?</tt> Yup. Well, at least those tags work. But it's important to use wikitext where possible. I know that's one thing that Wikignomes do on Wikipedia, they fix someone's crazy HTML and make it simple to understand wikitext. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:20, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

==404'd==
Um hath anys peoples realized that half thy links have been 404'd?
--[[User:Clever Dan|Clever Dan]] 17:42, 9 Oct 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, if someone happens to have those quotes mirrored, it would be great to be able to link to them. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 14:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

::Okay, I have a mirror for a few of them. Most of them I don't have, though. --FatPamPam

Also, if you keep pressing the QotW button, you don't just get Homestar's broken speech bubble, but you also get a frame where he's saying 'undefined' -- Matt 16:59, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

== blabittablough ==

Am I the only one that hears a very clear z at the beginning of the last "word" of the 12/16 quote? I suggested "zabbitablough" as a more accurate transcription, but it was reverted. (BTW, I agree with "blabittablough" in the actual email, but this sounds different.)
:I hear a "Z," as well. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
:Yup. That's definitely a Z. Try changing it again.

Well, it says "zabittablough" on the QOD thing.--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 14:26, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

I think it's a "Z"-Catman87

== QoD files ==

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone was interested in these files I found on my HD. If so, I could upload them somewhere for a while. They seem to all be QoDs, though I can't be sure. (One of them (sb_possums.zip) might not be the original download, but a rezip.)

[[User:The Archon|The Archon]]

File list begins:

blc_hateusomuch.zip

bubs_cantdrive.zip

bubs_chickenshine.zip

bubs_sugarspice.zip

cc_theme.zip

cz_bdhman.zip

email_rokk.zip

gunhaver_rro.zip

hsgirl_likefunny.zip

hs_brutus.zip

hs_grabbinbutt.zip

hs_letmein.zip

HS_PEE.ZIP

HS_REPS.ZIP

hs_thatsbupkis.zip

hs_thnikkaman.zip

k_assaulted.zip

labordaysong_hs.zip

larry_fromzeen.zip

marshie_whatmore.zip

oldaboy2_missvg.zip

sbhs_havetojump.zip

sbz_backoff.zip

sb_brudder.zip

sb_giftshop.zip

SB_JIG.ZIP

sb_kingmessup.zip

SB_MATT.ZIP

sb_possums.zip

sb_sneakup.zip

ss_animal.zip

ss_foodanymore.zip

ss_marzipan.zip

stinko_whatRUdoing.zip

== Mirror ==

Who does the mirrors for the QOWs? The human wedgie one still isn't on there... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:52, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== HRWiki Mirror Uploads ==

Is there any way for users to upload files to hrwiki.org/mirror? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 27 Feb 2005, 22:23 (GMT)

:Nope.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:21, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Error ==

Hi my name is Jess. I have never done wiki before.

I was looking at this quote:

Strong Bad: Oh. Why do you...guys...like me anymore. I-I've lost it! origins outtake.

I don't think the origins strong bad email is the right source for this quote of the week. I just watched the cartoon and I didn't hear the quote in the main toon or in the easter eggs.

Jess

:Hi there Jess. Yeah, it doesn't seem right. Any ideas?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I'm putting in "unknown" for the time being. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 22:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I am quite sure that it IS an outtake from origins. Compare the following two lines:
:::'''[[Strong Bad]] (QOD):''' ''Oh. Why do you''...guys...like me anymore. I-I've lost it!
:::'''STRONG BAD (Origins):''' ''Ugh! Why do you'' Van Peebles always wanna know the origins and histories of every freakin' little thing? Like, do you wanna know how Strong Sad got his belly button, too?
:::The tone is very identical in the parts that match (made italic here). This leads me to believe that it IS indeed an outtake from origins (don't forget, outtakes are recordings that go wrong and are scrapped - they are not part of the final version).
:::While I am the one who originally added outtake to the attribution (originally, it just said origins), I'll let you guys compare for yourselves. --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::I'm still not convinced, though. The context for the two quotes are entirely different, though the tone ''is'' the same. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 19:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::::How on earth do you determine context on a single line? If you mean that the text is different, then that's obvious - it's an outtake, so it would HAVE to be wrong (one way or the other). Besides, I don't recall hearing another possible match in any other toon. --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 07:20, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::::In the outtake, Strong Bad is talking about how everyone likes him. In "origins", he is talking about why he hates that everybody wants to "know the origins of every single little thing". --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:18, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::::::Improvisation is not uncommon in outtakes. It could very easily be explained by Matt forgetting what he was supposed to say, then trying to make up something to go along. And again, I don't see any other potential sources (but feel free to point them out if you have any). --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 15:55, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

Okay, I just noticed something interesting. Taking a look at the first line of the code for this file, I see "ID3 TT2 sbemail123_messup TEN iTunes v4.7.0.42 COM h engiTunNORM" Problem solved, and it look like we were right with "[[origins]] outake."[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:01, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

:FWIW, that would be the ID3v2 tag. We should probably make a note to check for those things in the future. Most audio players (Winamp, for one) should show that info, so there's no need to get out Notepad or a hex editor or whatever you used :). (I can't believe it was really that simple.) --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 18:14, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Zip file==

I'd like to see these all put into zip file(s) to easily download them all at once. As soon as I get an iPod, these are going on there. -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 18:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Ask and ye shall receive! [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/AZ487_Q1.zip ZIP #1] and [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/DZ215_Q2.zip ZIP #2] (The server I use has an upload limit of 2MB, so that's why I had to split them up.) Hope this is helpful anways! --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 06:24, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Sweet! Thanks, I hope some others find this helpful too. [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 18:38, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

==3/17/2005==
Does anyone have the March 17th Quote of the Week? Sadly, it's gone from H*R now.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|StrongstarRunbad]] 11:02, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Added.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:34, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Lost QoDs==

I have a theory that might work. I know it's possible to record the sound from your comp (no clue how, but I know it can be done), so theoretically, couldn't someone record the QoDs without a mirror straight from the toons? It'd come out the same as the QoD, and that could be added to the mirror. -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 14:38, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Sorry, but it's not the same.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Darn. Well, it is better than nothing, right?

:::Well, there IS a way to get sound recorded from your computer, and it's called getting a Mac. (GarageBand can do that.) --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|Talk]] 19:56, 2 Aug 2005 (CDT)

::::So can Windows and *Sound Recorder*, as long as your soundcard supports full duplex - just configure the Sound Mixer to use the proper input source. But that's not the reason we don't.
::::The sound on the site is of lower quality than the QoDs. Though we *could* sample those that are from the DVD, they often have background noise. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 21:04, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::Good point Pidfeot. I just want to point out that the lost Quote of the Week files that we were discussing here have been located and are now available for download.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:36, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Funniest word style ever ==

Apparently, someone made a useless page that listed the empty "Quote of the Week" phrase as different than the picture here. He went about it the wrong way, but he was actually right - at least when halfway on the on the virus Main Page, it really has changed, and to what he said it was. Is this worth note anywhere? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 15:56, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:As I was TRYING to say before the database went down, it says:
"Oh Haldo! This is my
funniest word style
ever times that I've
said! Hope all is on
to it even more
lately! And I wish the
chicken & msg place
was open on
Somedays"
:Lot of H*R refs in this one, huh? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 16:03, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Umm... Un-mirrored quotes not working ==

Is it me or are loads of the un-mirrord quotes not working for download? it brings me to the HSR 404'D page.

:Yes, noname, you are right. It seems all the ZIP files from 3 May 2004 to 11 Nov 2004 have been removed from the site. Give Tom a week or two and we should have all these set up for download through the wiki server (mirror). I don't know if the macintosh 'sit' files will ever be mirrored. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 08:32, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

== Repeated QoD? ==

They repeated the "human wedgie" quote today...why?

Yes, that doesn't really make sense...the only difference is it's AaAaahHmm instead of I'm. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== You're A Girl ==

That link doesn't work. Neither do any of the "external links." I can't find it anywhere. Where is it? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:09, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:You will find "'''youreagirl.mp3'''" in my updated [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/quotepak.zip quote pack]. If you want to take the song directly from Flash, save and open [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/qod1111.swf this file]. I'm glad I saved all those Flash files from last year—when TBC still embedded the quote file into Flash. :) {{User:The Paper/sig}} 08:23, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Hey, thanks, man! --[[User:24.66.94.141|24.66.94.141]] 06:27, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

The quote pack and the file didn't work. In the file, I could hear the quote, but I couldn't download it. Can someone fix this? -- RJMT

:RJMT, you are probably opening the ZIP file (Windows XP allows you to do this) instead of saving the file to a folder on your hard drive. If you try right clicking on [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/quotepak.zip the link] and then click "''Save Target As''..." you should be able to download the quote pack. If you would like more advice, you can tell me more about the situation on my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:The_Paper talk page]. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:49, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Buttdance ==

The "Buttdance" quote is off the site, and it has not been added to this one. Does anyone have it?- [[Bad Graphics Ghost]]

== New Picture ==
Should the transcried QotW in the picture be replaced? I know it's funny and special, but is a glitched QotW the best one to display on top like that? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

== Not working on the web site? ==
<strike>Ok, I just found out that the quote of the week changed and i wanted to download it from the web site, but is it just me, or is the quote not working on the web site right now? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 03:45, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC</strike>

<strike>It didn't work for me either. Weird.....--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 03:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)</strike>

:Works for me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::O wait nvm u just have to wait for a little while after u click on it.... or @ least thats how it is with me... --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 03:50, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah. Just have to wait.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 03:53, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Cool Tapes quote problem?==
when i download the new cool tapes quote, it downloads fine and then i double-click it to open, and it copies it into itunes. but then there's nothing playing there. the time says 00:00. what the heck? can someone help? -dayve_57 4:11 PM august 19

:It works fine for me. I'm not using iTunes, however. Perhaps try to download it again?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:15, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::No, Tom, you're wrong. The answer, if you're trying to get it in Safari, is to get it in Firefox. Usually, Safari works with it, but this time I tried Firefox and it worked. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|Talk]] 19:45, 26 Aug 2005 (CDT)

:::How am I wrong?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:50, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Another Cool Tapes (maybe earlier) quote problem?==
I saved the current Quote of the Week to my computer, knowing full well that this would make the sound clips unavailiable. However, instead of the "Oh Haldo! This is my funniest word style" message, i get a picture of Homestar and the message is "undefined". Did TBC change this, or is it just me? [[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 21:30, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

That's not a problem. It ''do'' read "Oh! Haldo" for about a second or so. Then it read's "undefined". --[[User:81.230.154.89|81.230.154.89]] 14:22, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Re-recorded? ==

When I play the "Cool Tapes" on Quote of the Day, when Marzipan is supposed to say "Ready boys?" it doesn't sound a lot like her. Did they re-record these quotes?
-Catsmeat (I forgot my password...)

:No, they don't. QOTW mp3's sound much clearer than the sound in the Flash cartoon. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:12, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Archive attempt ==

There is no need to split this page up. The page is not too long nor does it have too many images.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:58, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Personally, I feel we should only split pages once they've reached the 32kb size line. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 01:59, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I agree. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:06, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::What about the other two weeklies? They aren't over 32kb, but they take a load time to long and scroll. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== SB ==

A question about Strong Bad as Reynold. Was that shown as Strong Bad, or Reynold? --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 14:31, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:It was shown as Reynold. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 14:33, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::Thank you. {{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 14:45, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Wonder ==

Interestingly, the link for the Horrible Painting's quote "Come on in heeere" was homestarrunner.com/weeklies/rocoulm.mp3. "Rocoulm" struck me as an odd name for the mp3, so I thought I'd preserve that for posterity to speculate on. --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]
:[[Horrible Painting|Already noted.]] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:47, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

==Image Font==

Look at the old QOTW picture, then the new one. The fonts are different for the 'hear it, get it' text. Anybody know when exactly the change happened? It should at least be meantioned somewhere (If it already is, I'm sorry, but I didn't notice it). {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Is it just me or... ==

...has the QotW box reverted back to the one in the middle of [[:Image:Quote Of Week Box Design All.PNG]] instead of the one at the bottom? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 20:52, 18 October 2005 (BST)

:It's not just you - it's happened for me, too. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Homsar999|Contribs]] 15:45, 22 October 2005 (CDT)

::I just looked at the QoTW box, and instead of the default Homestar head, it shows each character in quick succession. Did anybody else notice this? [[User:Ephexx|Ephexx]] 20:12, 26 January 2006 (EST)

== The Good Times ==

Uhh, TBC used "The Good Times Are Over!" 2 times. Has anybody noticed this? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:Actually, yes. This is the second time that TBC have used this quote. — {{User:Lapper/sig}}

::Yes. Most disappointing. [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 19:10, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, it's almost like "I'mmmm the Human Wedgie!" {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 21:45, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, it's definitely round two. Let's sue 'em!—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 12:54, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Well they just changed it to the Strong Bad Is a Bad Guy song. They just have just realized it and changed it.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 21:38, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Interesting. Must be reminicent of the old "Quote of the Day (or so)". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:40, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

== Very mean and boring ==

Okay, I can sorta see the [[origins]] outtake ("Why do you... guys...") after it was explained to me, but I cannot see that the "very mean... things" quote came from [[boring (really)]] as was previously stated. It sounds to me like a generic-ized version of what Strong Bad says in just about ''every'' email. And, what's more, SB didn't say anything particularly close to it in b(r). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:08, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
: And making it "undetermined" is no better!!! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:09, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::: Can you prove that this one isn't an outtake?
:::: ''{farts} "You guys, that was a pretty good one." {laughs} ''
::: How about this one? Unlikely as it is, can you prove it's not?
:::: ''"This is the Strong Bad show, everybody come on down, there's gonna be lots a guests, and it's gonna be pretty fun, maybe at the end, I'll have a serious moment to talk to you guys, but right now I'm gonna throw a bunch of pies, at The Cheat!" ''
::: Yet I see no one insisting on making them "undetermined." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:16, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::: PS. As slow as SB is talking in the new quote, he is ''still'' speaking much faster and with a LOT more (mock?) emotion than in b(r). It's just a generic SB-esque thing to say: something mean and funny. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:18, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
: To me it sounds like his Reynold impression -- it seems like the same voice as "Ugh, I really need to go grocery shopping! I wish my girlfriend didn't leave me!" A [[Cheat Commandos]] outtake, perhaps?
::I compared them side by side. The voices don't exactly match. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:19, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

==what's a belle?!?!==
why does A QOUTE of the day say:"i'm a belle!" when it should say:"i'm a bell!"?-[[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 23:26, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
:We've discussed this at length [[Talk:halloweener#Bell vs. Belle|here]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== QoW Chronology ==

Ok, since no one has seen [[Talk:Quote_of_the_Week_Character_Heads#QoW_chronology|this post]] over there, i'll just point to it over here! Hopefully there is more visibility. ''In fact'', i'll copy my questions here:
I have two related questions:
#When did the QoW start using character heads?
#Wasn't the QoW character heads format just homestar's head used regardless of who was saying stuff, if so, when did they start using *different* character heads for their QoW to show the correct head for a quote?
#--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:40, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:Have no idea. just felt like someone needed to pay attention to this question (aren't I nice?). {{User:Bubsty/xmasig}} 01:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::Awwwww! That is ''very'' nice of you thank you! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:39, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Well, judging by the quotes, I'm guessing they started using them sometime after the 11th of November, 2004. The next quote, on the 22nd, is from [[virus]], which still had the older box without the character head in the toon (check the .swf of "fake-qotw"). But that's all I know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::'''EDIT CONFLICT X2 ALL THANKS TO DORIAN GRAYS REALLY MINOR EDITS THAT HE COULD HAVE WAITED TO DO UNTIL I FINISHED THIS POST''' (just to tell you, I was being sarcastic in that first reply). Woah, that soon? I thought it was earlier. {{User:Bubsty/xmasig}} 01:48, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::What about before, didn't there used to be just the quote and Homestar's head regardless of who made the quote? I vaguely remember that. If so, how long did they have that? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:42, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::I've never heard of that... Sure you're not thinking of when they haven't update the new head, or the error screen? Hopefully someone who's been collecting them longer will know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::I do know that the virus SB quote (I duh du doh crapfully yours) was with the new head design, and it was not Homestar's head, and as far as I know the first quote to implement the new heads. I think Homestar is just default if the image is either not uploaded or not declared as part of the quote thing (or something). {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 02:50, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Okay that makes sense now. I'm asking because I wanted to add the chronology to the QoW character heads page since it has no such information. And I know that the character heads were decompiled and published only recently (last Aug or Sept). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== Fall Float Parade outtake? ==

Recent edit to current QoTW mentioned the quote was from the [[Fall Float Parade]] outtake. Where's this outtake? I don't remember seeing or hearing of one. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:25, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:Hey man, why do you ask? Is the quote from the outtake? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:27, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
::I have no idea - that's why I asked. One thing I'm curious about though is if this QoTW is exactly the same as the quote in the toon itself - TBC have been known to switch it up on us in the past. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:28, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

This is why I had to revert it. None of us know. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:31, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:You mentioned an outtake - I was wondering where this outtake was in the first place. As far as I know, there is no outtake. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:32, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey man, don't you know why I had to revert it? Still, it's reverted. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:33, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
:<nowiki>*shrug*</nowiki> Okay then, sorry. (BTW, I answered my question from above: I captured Coach Z's line from the Toon and listened to it closely, and he does say "zader matermorts" there.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:37, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Meh, I don't want to listen to such a quote like that. Why does he mention that? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:38, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:I listened to the toon and the QotW at the same time (overlapping), and the words and rhythm are the same. Because one sound clip is part of a toon and the other is isolated, the timbre isn't quite the same between the two, but that's the only difference I heard. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:04, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

I used to think that sometimes the Quote of the Week was directly affected by debates over lyric spelling on the wiki. I still do, but now I can see that The [Smelly] Brethren Chaps are playing with us. There wasn't even a debate over Coach Z's line, but now they have to go and make up a word like "zader". --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 23:57, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:What makes you think they were playing with us on this one? I'm pretty sure Coach Z was saying the same thing in the original toon both before and after the QoTW - perhaps they just wanted to clarify it. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:11, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

== zader matermorts ==

[[Image:20051208 zader matermorts.png|thumb|How it is spelled.]]
Just because I have a feeling it will come in handy, I've uploaded a screenshot of the current quote. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:22, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

== 2006 01 12 quote ==

Closest think I can think of is the background of [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]]. Ideas? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:35, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yes. That's exactly it. Thank you, Tom and Rogue. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
::Should we insert this into the transcript? If so, how so? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== SB is a bad guy ==

You guys probably won't believe me, but I begged TBC to put on Strong Bad is a bad guy up. I didn't know they did, I thought they'd Email back. I've no proof, but I did. --[[User:Dinoshaur|Dinoshaur]] 19:20, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

==Ancient history==
Okay, I know it was a long time ago, but I could have sworn 1-Up had a quote in March 2003. It said, "Everyone says that you're the guy, but I wanna be the guy too!" -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 18:49, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:Wait! I just remembered something! It came directly before Homestar's "Brutus" quote. And we have that on the list! -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 18:51, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

==new updates==
I just added the new quote from Jan. 26. There's no sound file yet so I left that blank.

== CGNU ==

Does anybody know what band performed the CGNU Fight Song? --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

No, but judging on the voices, they might be british or austrailian.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 20:11, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

== Another repeated quote? ==

Not that I'm complaining, but did anyone else immediately recognize that we've had this "weekly" quote before? I seem to recall something similar around the time of the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|NYU Talk]] last year...and lo and behold, turns out the wiki has a truncated version cataloged for 25 March '05. Reminds me of the Homsar "Aaah" duplicate. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 03:34, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, if you listen to 'em both, the tone of voice is entirely different. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::And this recent one has new lines. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 03:45, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Under Siege 2 x 2 ==

Anyone else think it suspect that two different "outtake" quotes would use "Under Siege 2" in place of another movie? One uses it in place of "Jurassic Park 3" in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] and the other in place of "Deep Impact" in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:37, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
:It's almost like an inside joke... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Right - but if that's the case, then they're not "outtakes" so much as, I dunno, re-takes? Or maybe just a really weird coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:42, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I think this page is misusing the term "outtake" throughout. Many of the quotes listed as "outtakes" are probably variations created after the fact. What proof do we have that any of them are actual outtakes? "(name of original source) variant" would be better. --Tim333
::::Really. Why would they record alternate versions solely for the purpose of a quote of the week? When you're recording audio for this sort of thing, you do many takes that get edited together after the fact. There are always leftovers. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:02, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::You're right, actually. Don't know what I was thinking. --Tim333

=="Not Talkin’ ’Bout Butter"==
The Cheat's remix is nice and all, but I'd really like the original!—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 20:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
:Why? The remix was 1,000,000,000 times better. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 05:04, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
::I prefer the original. But because TBC didn't make it QOTW, I'ma have to run a cable from my Mac's speakers to my PC's mic port and record it in Audacity.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 15:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:::um, genius, with Audacity you can record without any cable.
::::No need to be rude. Also, please sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). {{User:Bassbone/sig}}
:::Sorry, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=66.222.237.224 66.222.237.224], but you can't record sound without a cable. I just checked Audacity's input options.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 20:19, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm assuming your PC runs Windows... in which case, bring up the volume control (double-click the speaker icon in the taskbar), go into the preferences and choose "Recording" and turn on all the options below. Now, depending on your sound card, you'll want to find something like "Stereo Mix" or "Mixer" or "Output" or something similar, and either turn on "Select" or turn off "Mute" or something like that. Now when you hit "Record" in Audacity (or any other recording software) it will record whatever your speakers are playing... so click Record, then play the toon, and you'll have the soundtrack. It will take a few goes to get the recording level right, but that's how you do it. Under Linux you're probably out of luck, because of the awful way that Flash for Linux plays sound... it can be done, but not directly like this. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:50, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

== Helping us out ==
Once again, although they didn't clear up the issue we were hoping they'd clear up, it almost seems TBC are intentionally trying to help us out on the Wiki, with the new [[lady fan]] quote (it's not actually an outtake; Homestar does say the line but the volume is turned way down and said under one of Strong Bad's lines so you can barely hear it.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

==''From'' vs ''Source''==
I think ''Source'' is better to use than ''From''. Thoughts? I just know I'm gonna get shot down.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 03:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

== The Sadsons ==

The Simpsons used the tai chi/chai tea gag in the 2000 episode "[http://www.snpp.com/episodes/BABF22 HOMR]". Lisa claimed that she dealt with the stress of being an intellectual through practices that included drinking chai tea and doing tai chi. It's even conceivable that the Simpsons similarity was the reason they didn't use this take. Notable? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 18:18, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:Notable. -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 19:47, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
:Weak. I've seen the episode, and rather than the Homestar Runner gag being a reference to a similar Simpsons gag, I'd say that they're both references to the fact that "chai tea" and "tai chi" sound amusingly similar for things that are both considered "new age" but have no semantic relationship. I don't think that every joke in Homestar Runner needs to be noted with everyone who's used the joke before; here, there's simply no tie to The Simpsons. I vote, strongly, for baleetion. [[User:67.101.7.97|67.101.7.97]] 00:18, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

== TGS 10.5 vs death metal ==

Well, this is interesting. An anonny edited the QOTW to read "Teen Girl Squad Issue 10 1/2 ([[death metal]] Easter egg)" instead of "[[death metal]] Easter egg". It was reverted, even though on the TGS page itself, it's listed as TGS 10 1/2. So, why was the anonny edit wrong? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:14, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad's "check me out" quote ==
You shouldn't say it's "similar" to [[first time here]], It actually is from that toon. {{unsigned|70.106.37.69|14:58, 31 March 2006 (UTC)}}
:Although the words are the same, the inflection is quite different – download it and compare... I'm guessing it was another [[Wikipedia:take|take]], but we don't know for sure, so we just say "similar". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
*Just played both of the quotes, and Strong Bad's saying is different from the flash file. So you're right. -[[User:70.106.37.69|70.106.37.69]]

== No Load ==

The old quote (it's just "its") no longer loads. Put it on a mirror, somebody! Just a reminder no one needs. -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 22:45, 6 April 2006 (UTC) AKA gramrabbit in WikiForum...WikiTikkiTavi rules!

== So faint a sound, I thought you would enjoy it! ==

What faint laughter? I don't hear any faint laughter, even with my speakers turned up... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
: Oh, never mind. I hear it now with my headphones on. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:42, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
: And before someone makes a "[[bottom 10|Doot doo]]" crack, I hear that with my new headphones just as clearly as with speakers. I still hear no third syllable. Just in case anyone was wondering. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:51, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
:: Also, the title of the clip (as seen in the properties) is "mike laff". I think that's all the proof we need. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 12:09, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
::: Didn't know that one. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:34, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

== I'm so sorry ==

I was trying to link to a MP3 version of a quote on the kitkorp mirror and I erased everything somehow. Please don't ban me.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Outtakes? ==

I have noticed a lot of the QOTW's have outtake next to them. I cannot find any proof that any of these are outtakes and am wondering how this is comfirmed? {{User:Dylnuge/sig}} 23:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
:Careful listening to some, logic for others. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Hey, Dylnuge, do you honestly think that they'd make the outtakes available to us normally, like have a blooper reel attached to the emails/toons/whatever? I don't think that's the best idea. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 30 June 2006 (UTC) (rhetorical question)

== Shadow Stevens. Master of Mystery. ==

Does anybody understand what the word "stevens" means in this context? (In QOTW for 6/29/06.) And is there a possible/appropriate way to make this information available & connect it to the QOTW? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:28, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
:This[http://www.go-star.com/framer/shadoe.htm] probably explains most of it. It also explains "Circle gets the square." (It's a phrase used on Hollywood Squares.) --[[User:209.161.251.134|209.161.251.134]] 23:04, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

== Latest quote: [[portrait]] outtake? ==

So I noticed my edit was removed that said the new quote was an outtake from portrait... and the person who changed it back was confused as to my reasoning. Well, what happened was that I downloaded the new quote and played it in iTunes, but in iTunes itself the title of the clip was different than the title of the actual file. It said "sbemail139_5_shadowstevens" as the title, which lead me to believe that the quote was an outtake from email 139. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]

:Ooh, good call. And the quote talks about an "artist". I'm wondering about the "5" part of the file title — The only alternative interpretation is that the quote belongs to a [[Strong Bad Email#Not Quite Strong Bad Emails|NQSBE]] occurring in between #139 and #140. I think yours is the more likely interpretation, though (it comes from version 5 of email 139 or something). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

:: No, you did not answer my question with this. Why would its iTunes name be anything remotely resembling official? That's not its name on the site, and who uploaded it to iTunes anyway. You will have to pardon my ignorance of iTunes, but unless we can be sure it was uploaded by the Bros. Chaps, we really can't call that official. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

::: The fact that he's using iTunes has very little to do with it. "sbemail139_5_shadowstevens" is the title string in the ID3v2 tag for the official version of the file. iTunes is an mp3 player, as well as an interface to Apple's iTunes store. Any other mp3 player should be able to tell you the same thing. Coincidently, The Bros. Chaps must have used iTunes at some point in the production process, because the Encoded By string in the ID3v2 tag is "iTunes v6.0.4.2". --[[User:209.161.251.134|209.161.251.134]] 19:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

:::: Again, you'll have to pardon my ignorance concerning iTunes. I think I get it now, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

==Latest quote: 80s rock influence?==

The style of the music and Marzipan's accent and slang remind me of 80s rock bands that featured a female vocalist, such as Siouxsie and the Banshees.
:It doesn't even sound like Marzipan's voice to me. Could it be something that someone else made, and sent to TBC, like the real marching band version of the CGNU fight song? But yeah, it's definately very Female-80s-band-esque. -- [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 03:18, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
::No, if it was fan-made, I'm sure they'd tell us. Also, it'd be too conveniently timed. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Yeah, your probably right. But maybe it was someone other than Missy doing the singing? Wait, I just thought of something. What if this QOTW is supposed to be what Cool Tapes would sound like if Marzipan rocked (from Different Town)? -- [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 22:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Quote of the Week

Chupaqueso — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 17:12:59 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* Latest quote: 80s rock influence? */

{{featuredarticle}}

<div style="background:#CFC; border: 1px dashed #090; padding:10px">
'''Checklist for new Weeklies:'''
*Add appropriate new entries to [[Quote of the Week]], [[Weekly Fanstuff]] and [[Sketchbook]].
*Add a new {{tl|qotw}} line to the Quote of the Week character's page.
*Check that the previous week's quote is on the mirror (Change the link to Mirror:, Show Preview and click the link)
**If it is, change it on [[Quote of the Week]] and the appropriate character page.
*Update [[Secret Pages XML Source#Weeklies XML File]] with [[HR:weeklies/weeklies.xml|weeklies.xml]] (click View->Page Source and copy/paste)
</div> 

==Uniformity==
The fact that these dates won't line up is driving me nuts. Is there some snippet of code we can use to add a date in a sort of uniform manner? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 13:38, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Ask and ye shall receive. Actually, I came here to ask you if you liked the table, but found your note. You like? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:50, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)
::Yeah, it looks wicked! I looked at the code, and even though it's probably rudimentary HTML, I'm lost on it. That's probably gonna be your thing. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 13:55, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::Okay, I did the whole thing. It looks kind of weird now, since some of the quotes are so long. I don't like how the date and download links get moved down. How about another form of writing the date? I tried another one in the first three, check it out. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:05, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

::::It looks pretty good, but not uniform, ya know? How can we make the long quotey ones look...not jacked up? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:09, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::::Yeah. [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table This] might be of some help. I think this might be the most confusing Wiki format there is. Maybe someone else has some ideas... Joey? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:17, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

::::::This may be a stupid question, but can you use html throughout MediaWiki? Or just when creating tables? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:38, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::::::I think it works everywhere. Strong? Em? <strike>Strike?</strike> <tt>Tt?</tt> Yup. Well, at least those tags work. But it's important to use wikitext where possible. I know that's one thing that Wikignomes do on Wikipedia, they fix someone's crazy HTML and make it simple to understand wikitext. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:20, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

==404'd==
Um hath anys peoples realized that half thy links have been 404'd?
--[[User:Clever Dan|Clever Dan]] 17:42, 9 Oct 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, if someone happens to have those quotes mirrored, it would be great to be able to link to them. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 14:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

::Okay, I have a mirror for a few of them. Most of them I don't have, though. --FatPamPam

Also, if you keep pressing the QotW button, you don't just get Homestar's broken speech bubble, but you also get a frame where he's saying 'undefined' -- Matt 16:59, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

== blabittablough ==

Am I the only one that hears a very clear z at the beginning of the last "word" of the 12/16 quote? I suggested "zabbitablough" as a more accurate transcription, but it was reverted. (BTW, I agree with "blabittablough" in the actual email, but this sounds different.)
:I hear a "Z," as well. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
:Yup. That's definitely a Z. Try changing it again.

Well, it says "zabittablough" on the QOD thing.--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 14:26, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

I think it's a "Z"-Catman87

== QoD files ==

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone was interested in these files I found on my HD. If so, I could upload them somewhere for a while. They seem to all be QoDs, though I can't be sure. (One of them (sb_possums.zip) might not be the original download, but a rezip.)

[[User:The Archon|The Archon]]

File list begins:

blc_hateusomuch.zip

bubs_cantdrive.zip

bubs_chickenshine.zip

bubs_sugarspice.zip

cc_theme.zip

cz_bdhman.zip

email_rokk.zip

gunhaver_rro.zip

hsgirl_likefunny.zip

hs_brutus.zip

hs_grabbinbutt.zip

hs_letmein.zip

HS_PEE.ZIP

HS_REPS.ZIP

hs_thatsbupkis.zip

hs_thnikkaman.zip

k_assaulted.zip

labordaysong_hs.zip

larry_fromzeen.zip

marshie_whatmore.zip

oldaboy2_missvg.zip

sbhs_havetojump.zip

sbz_backoff.zip

sb_brudder.zip

sb_giftshop.zip

SB_JIG.ZIP

sb_kingmessup.zip

SB_MATT.ZIP

sb_possums.zip

sb_sneakup.zip

ss_animal.zip

ss_foodanymore.zip

ss_marzipan.zip

stinko_whatRUdoing.zip

== Mirror ==

Who does the mirrors for the QOWs? The human wedgie one still isn't on there... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:52, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== HRWiki Mirror Uploads ==

Is there any way for users to upload files to hrwiki.org/mirror? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 27 Feb 2005, 22:23 (GMT)

:Nope.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:21, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Error ==

Hi my name is Jess. I have never done wiki before.

I was looking at this quote:

Strong Bad: Oh. Why do you...guys...like me anymore. I-I've lost it! origins outtake.

I don't think the origins strong bad email is the right source for this quote of the week. I just watched the cartoon and I didn't hear the quote in the main toon or in the easter eggs.

Jess

:Hi there Jess. Yeah, it doesn't seem right. Any ideas?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I'm putting in "unknown" for the time being. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 22:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I am quite sure that it IS an outtake from origins. Compare the following two lines:
:::'''[[Strong Bad]] (QOD):''' ''Oh. Why do you''...guys...like me anymore. I-I've lost it!
:::'''STRONG BAD (Origins):''' ''Ugh! Why do you'' Van Peebles always wanna know the origins and histories of every freakin' little thing? Like, do you wanna know how Strong Sad got his belly button, too?
:::The tone is very identical in the parts that match (made italic here). This leads me to believe that it IS indeed an outtake from origins (don't forget, outtakes are recordings that go wrong and are scrapped - they are not part of the final version).
:::While I am the one who originally added outtake to the attribution (originally, it just said origins), I'll let you guys compare for yourselves. --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::I'm still not convinced, though. The context for the two quotes are entirely different, though the tone ''is'' the same. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 19:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::::How on earth do you determine context on a single line? If you mean that the text is different, then that's obvious - it's an outtake, so it would HAVE to be wrong (one way or the other). Besides, I don't recall hearing another possible match in any other toon. --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 07:20, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::::In the outtake, Strong Bad is talking about how everyone likes him. In "origins", he is talking about why he hates that everybody wants to "know the origins of every single little thing". --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:18, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::::::Improvisation is not uncommon in outtakes. It could very easily be explained by Matt forgetting what he was supposed to say, then trying to make up something to go along. And again, I don't see any other potential sources (but feel free to point them out if you have any). --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 15:55, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

Okay, I just noticed something interesting. Taking a look at the first line of the code for this file, I see "ID3 TT2 sbemail123_messup TEN iTunes v4.7.0.42 COM h engiTunNORM" Problem solved, and it look like we were right with "[[origins]] outake."[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:01, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

:FWIW, that would be the ID3v2 tag. We should probably make a note to check for those things in the future. Most audio players (Winamp, for one) should show that info, so there's no need to get out Notepad or a hex editor or whatever you used :). (I can't believe it was really that simple.) --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 18:14, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Zip file==

I'd like to see these all put into zip file(s) to easily download them all at once. As soon as I get an iPod, these are going on there. -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 18:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Ask and ye shall receive! [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/AZ487_Q1.zip ZIP #1] and [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/DZ215_Q2.zip ZIP #2] (The server I use has an upload limit of 2MB, so that's why I had to split them up.) Hope this is helpful anways! --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 06:24, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Sweet! Thanks, I hope some others find this helpful too. [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 18:38, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

==3/17/2005==
Does anyone have the March 17th Quote of the Week? Sadly, it's gone from H*R now.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|StrongstarRunbad]] 11:02, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Added.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:34, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Lost QoDs==

I have a theory that might work. I know it's possible to record the sound from your comp (no clue how, but I know it can be done), so theoretically, couldn't someone record the QoDs without a mirror straight from the toons? It'd come out the same as the QoD, and that could be added to the mirror. -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 14:38, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Sorry, but it's not the same.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Darn. Well, it is better than nothing, right?

:::Well, there IS a way to get sound recorded from your computer, and it's called getting a Mac. (GarageBand can do that.) --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|Talk]] 19:56, 2 Aug 2005 (CDT)

::::So can Windows and *Sound Recorder*, as long as your soundcard supports full duplex - just configure the Sound Mixer to use the proper input source. But that's not the reason we don't.
::::The sound on the site is of lower quality than the QoDs. Though we *could* sample those that are from the DVD, they often have background noise. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 21:04, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::Good point Pidfeot. I just want to point out that the lost Quote of the Week files that we were discussing here have been located and are now available for download.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:36, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Funniest word style ever ==

Apparently, someone made a useless page that listed the empty "Quote of the Week" phrase as different than the picture here. He went about it the wrong way, but he was actually right - at least when halfway on the on the virus Main Page, it really has changed, and to what he said it was. Is this worth note anywhere? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 15:56, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:As I was TRYING to say before the database went down, it says:
"Oh Haldo! This is my
funniest word style
ever times that I've
said! Hope all is on
to it even more
lately! And I wish the
chicken & msg place
was open on
Somedays"
:Lot of H*R refs in this one, huh? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 16:03, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Umm... Un-mirrored quotes not working ==

Is it me or are loads of the un-mirrord quotes not working for download? it brings me to the HSR 404'D page.

:Yes, noname, you are right. It seems all the ZIP files from 3 May 2004 to 11 Nov 2004 have been removed from the site. Give Tom a week or two and we should have all these set up for download through the wiki server (mirror). I don't know if the macintosh 'sit' files will ever be mirrored. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 08:32, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

== Repeated QoD? ==

They repeated the "human wedgie" quote today...why?

Yes, that doesn't really make sense...the only difference is it's AaAaahHmm instead of I'm. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== You're A Girl ==

That link doesn't work. Neither do any of the "external links." I can't find it anywhere. Where is it? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:09, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:You will find "'''youreagirl.mp3'''" in my updated [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/quotepak.zip quote pack]. If you want to take the song directly from Flash, save and open [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/qod1111.swf this file]. I'm glad I saved all those Flash files from last year—when TBC still embedded the quote file into Flash. :) {{User:The Paper/sig}} 08:23, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Hey, thanks, man! --[[User:24.66.94.141|24.66.94.141]] 06:27, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

The quote pack and the file didn't work. In the file, I could hear the quote, but I couldn't download it. Can someone fix this? -- RJMT

:RJMT, you are probably opening the ZIP file (Windows XP allows you to do this) instead of saving the file to a folder on your hard drive. If you try right clicking on [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/quotepak.zip the link] and then click "''Save Target As''..." you should be able to download the quote pack. If you would like more advice, you can tell me more about the situation on my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:The_Paper talk page]. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:49, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Buttdance ==

The "Buttdance" quote is off the site, and it has not been added to this one. Does anyone have it?- [[Bad Graphics Ghost]]

== New Picture ==
Should the transcried QotW in the picture be replaced? I know it's funny and special, but is a glitched QotW the best one to display on top like that? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

== Not working on the web site? ==
<strike>Ok, I just found out that the quote of the week changed and i wanted to download it from the web site, but is it just me, or is the quote not working on the web site right now? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 03:45, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC</strike>

<strike>It didn't work for me either. Weird.....--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 03:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)</strike>

:Works for me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::O wait nvm u just have to wait for a little while after u click on it.... or @ least thats how it is with me... --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 03:50, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah. Just have to wait.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 03:53, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Cool Tapes quote problem?==
when i download the new cool tapes quote, it downloads fine and then i double-click it to open, and it copies it into itunes. but then there's nothing playing there. the time says 00:00. what the heck? can someone help? -dayve_57 4:11 PM august 19

:It works fine for me. I'm not using iTunes, however. Perhaps try to download it again?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:15, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::No, Tom, you're wrong. The answer, if you're trying to get it in Safari, is to get it in Firefox. Usually, Safari works with it, but this time I tried Firefox and it worked. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|Talk]] 19:45, 26 Aug 2005 (CDT)

:::How am I wrong?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:50, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Another Cool Tapes (maybe earlier) quote problem?==
I saved the current Quote of the Week to my computer, knowing full well that this would make the sound clips unavailiable. However, instead of the "Oh Haldo! This is my funniest word style" message, i get a picture of Homestar and the message is "undefined". Did TBC change this, or is it just me? [[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 21:30, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

That's not a problem. It ''do'' read "Oh! Haldo" for about a second or so. Then it read's "undefined". --[[User:81.230.154.89|81.230.154.89]] 14:22, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Re-recorded? ==

When I play the "Cool Tapes" on Quote of the Day, when Marzipan is supposed to say "Ready boys?" it doesn't sound a lot like her. Did they re-record these quotes?
-Catsmeat (I forgot my password...)

:No, they don't. QOTW mp3's sound much clearer than the sound in the Flash cartoon. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:12, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Archive attempt ==

There is no need to split this page up. The page is not too long nor does it have too many images.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:58, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Personally, I feel we should only split pages once they've reached the 32kb size line. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 01:59, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I agree. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:06, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::What about the other two weeklies? They aren't over 32kb, but they take a load time to long and scroll. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== SB ==

A question about Strong Bad as Reynold. Was that shown as Strong Bad, or Reynold? --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 14:31, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:It was shown as Reynold. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 14:33, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::Thank you. {{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 14:45, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Wonder ==

Interestingly, the link for the Horrible Painting's quote "Come on in heeere" was homestarrunner.com/weeklies/rocoulm.mp3. "Rocoulm" struck me as an odd name for the mp3, so I thought I'd preserve that for posterity to speculate on. --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]
:[[Horrible Painting|Already noted.]] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:47, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

==Image Font==

Look at the old QOTW picture, then the new one. The fonts are different for the 'hear it, get it' text. Anybody know when exactly the change happened? It should at least be meantioned somewhere (If it already is, I'm sorry, but I didn't notice it). {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Is it just me or... ==

...has the QotW box reverted back to the one in the middle of [[:Image:Quote Of Week Box Design All.PNG]] instead of the one at the bottom? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 20:52, 18 October 2005 (BST)

:It's not just you - it's happened for me, too. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Homsar999|Contribs]] 15:45, 22 October 2005 (CDT)

::I just looked at the QoTW box, and instead of the default Homestar head, it shows each character in quick succession. Did anybody else notice this? [[User:Ephexx|Ephexx]] 20:12, 26 January 2006 (EST)

== The Good Times ==

Uhh, TBC used "The Good Times Are Over!" 2 times. Has anybody noticed this? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:Actually, yes. This is the second time that TBC have used this quote. — {{User:Lapper/sig}}

::Yes. Most disappointing. [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 19:10, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, it's almost like "I'mmmm the Human Wedgie!" {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 21:45, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, it's definitely round two. Let's sue 'em!—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 12:54, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Well they just changed it to the Strong Bad Is a Bad Guy song. They just have just realized it and changed it.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 21:38, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Interesting. Must be reminicent of the old "Quote of the Day (or so)". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:40, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

== Very mean and boring ==

Okay, I can sorta see the [[origins]] outtake ("Why do you... guys...") after it was explained to me, but I cannot see that the "very mean... things" quote came from [[boring (really)]] as was previously stated. It sounds to me like a generic-ized version of what Strong Bad says in just about ''every'' email. And, what's more, SB didn't say anything particularly close to it in b(r). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:08, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
: And making it "undetermined" is no better!!! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:09, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::: Can you prove that this one isn't an outtake?
:::: ''{farts} "You guys, that was a pretty good one." {laughs} ''
::: How about this one? Unlikely as it is, can you prove it's not?
:::: ''"This is the Strong Bad show, everybody come on down, there's gonna be lots a guests, and it's gonna be pretty fun, maybe at the end, I'll have a serious moment to talk to you guys, but right now I'm gonna throw a bunch of pies, at The Cheat!" ''
::: Yet I see no one insisting on making them "undetermined." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:16, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::: PS. As slow as SB is talking in the new quote, he is ''still'' speaking much faster and with a LOT more (mock?) emotion than in b(r). It's just a generic SB-esque thing to say: something mean and funny. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:18, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
: To me it sounds like his Reynold impression -- it seems like the same voice as "Ugh, I really need to go grocery shopping! I wish my girlfriend didn't leave me!" A [[Cheat Commandos]] outtake, perhaps?
::I compared them side by side. The voices don't exactly match. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:19, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

==what's a belle?!?!==
why does A QOUTE of the day say:"i'm a belle!" when it should say:"i'm a bell!"?-[[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 23:26, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
:We've discussed this at length [[Talk:halloweener#Bell vs. Belle|here]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== QoW Chronology ==

Ok, since no one has seen [[Talk:Quote_of_the_Week_Character_Heads#QoW_chronology|this post]] over there, i'll just point to it over here! Hopefully there is more visibility. ''In fact'', i'll copy my questions here:
I have two related questions:
#When did the QoW start using character heads?
#Wasn't the QoW character heads format just homestar's head used regardless of who was saying stuff, if so, when did they start using *different* character heads for their QoW to show the correct head for a quote?
#--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:40, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:Have no idea. just felt like someone needed to pay attention to this question (aren't I nice?). {{User:Bubsty/xmasig}} 01:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::Awwwww! That is ''very'' nice of you thank you! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:39, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Well, judging by the quotes, I'm guessing they started using them sometime after the 11th of November, 2004. The next quote, on the 22nd, is from [[virus]], which still had the older box without the character head in the toon (check the .swf of "fake-qotw"). But that's all I know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::'''EDIT CONFLICT X2 ALL THANKS TO DORIAN GRAYS REALLY MINOR EDITS THAT HE COULD HAVE WAITED TO DO UNTIL I FINISHED THIS POST''' (just to tell you, I was being sarcastic in that first reply). Woah, that soon? I thought it was earlier. {{User:Bubsty/xmasig}} 01:48, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::What about before, didn't there used to be just the quote and Homestar's head regardless of who made the quote? I vaguely remember that. If so, how long did they have that? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:42, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::I've never heard of that... Sure you're not thinking of when they haven't update the new head, or the error screen? Hopefully someone who's been collecting them longer will know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::I do know that the virus SB quote (I duh du doh crapfully yours) was with the new head design, and it was not Homestar's head, and as far as I know the first quote to implement the new heads. I think Homestar is just default if the image is either not uploaded or not declared as part of the quote thing (or something). {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 02:50, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Okay that makes sense now. I'm asking because I wanted to add the chronology to the QoW character heads page since it has no such information. And I know that the character heads were decompiled and published only recently (last Aug or Sept). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== Fall Float Parade outtake? ==

Recent edit to current QoTW mentioned the quote was from the [[Fall Float Parade]] outtake. Where's this outtake? I don't remember seeing or hearing of one. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:25, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:Hey man, why do you ask? Is the quote from the outtake? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:27, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
::I have no idea - that's why I asked. One thing I'm curious about though is if this QoTW is exactly the same as the quote in the toon itself - TBC have been known to switch it up on us in the past. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:28, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

This is why I had to revert it. None of us know. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:31, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:You mentioned an outtake - I was wondering where this outtake was in the first place. As far as I know, there is no outtake. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:32, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey man, don't you know why I had to revert it? Still, it's reverted. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:33, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
:<nowiki>*shrug*</nowiki> Okay then, sorry. (BTW, I answered my question from above: I captured Coach Z's line from the Toon and listened to it closely, and he does say "zader matermorts" there.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:37, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Meh, I don't want to listen to such a quote like that. Why does he mention that? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:38, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:I listened to the toon and the QotW at the same time (overlapping), and the words and rhythm are the same. Because one sound clip is part of a toon and the other is isolated, the timbre isn't quite the same between the two, but that's the only difference I heard. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:04, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

I used to think that sometimes the Quote of the Week was directly affected by debates over lyric spelling on the wiki. I still do, but now I can see that The [Smelly] Brethren Chaps are playing with us. There wasn't even a debate over Coach Z's line, but now they have to go and make up a word like "zader". --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 23:57, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:What makes you think they were playing with us on this one? I'm pretty sure Coach Z was saying the same thing in the original toon both before and after the QoTW - perhaps they just wanted to clarify it. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:11, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

== zader matermorts ==

[[Image:20051208 zader matermorts.png|thumb|How it is spelled.]]
Just because I have a feeling it will come in handy, I've uploaded a screenshot of the current quote. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:22, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

== 2006 01 12 quote ==

Closest think I can think of is the background of [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]]. Ideas? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:35, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yes. That's exactly it. Thank you, Tom and Rogue. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
::Should we insert this into the transcript? If so, how so? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== SB is a bad guy ==

You guys probably won't believe me, but I begged TBC to put on Strong Bad is a bad guy up. I didn't know they did, I thought they'd Email back. I've no proof, but I did. --[[User:Dinoshaur|Dinoshaur]] 19:20, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

==Ancient history==
Okay, I know it was a long time ago, but I could have sworn 1-Up had a quote in March 2003. It said, "Everyone says that you're the guy, but I wanna be the guy too!" -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 18:49, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:Wait! I just remembered something! It came directly before Homestar's "Brutus" quote. And we have that on the list! -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 18:51, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

==new updates==
I just added the new quote from Jan. 26. There's no sound file yet so I left that blank.

== CGNU ==

Does anybody know what band performed the CGNU Fight Song? --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

No, but judging on the voices, they might be british or austrailian.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 20:11, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

== Another repeated quote? ==

Not that I'm complaining, but did anyone else immediately recognize that we've had this "weekly" quote before? I seem to recall something similar around the time of the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|NYU Talk]] last year...and lo and behold, turns out the wiki has a truncated version cataloged for 25 March '05. Reminds me of the Homsar "Aaah" duplicate. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 03:34, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, if you listen to 'em both, the tone of voice is entirely different. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::And this recent one has new lines. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 03:45, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Under Siege 2 x 2 ==

Anyone else think it suspect that two different "outtake" quotes would use "Under Siege 2" in place of another movie? One uses it in place of "Jurassic Park 3" in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] and the other in place of "Deep Impact" in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:37, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
:It's almost like an inside joke... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Right - but if that's the case, then they're not "outtakes" so much as, I dunno, re-takes? Or maybe just a really weird coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:42, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I think this page is misusing the term "outtake" throughout. Many of the quotes listed as "outtakes" are probably variations created after the fact. What proof do we have that any of them are actual outtakes? "(name of original source) variant" would be better. --Tim333
::::Really. Why would they record alternate versions solely for the purpose of a quote of the week? When you're recording audio for this sort of thing, you do many takes that get edited together after the fact. There are always leftovers. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:02, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::You're right, actually. Don't know what I was thinking. --Tim333

=="Not Talkin’ ’Bout Butter"==
The Cheat's remix is nice and all, but I'd really like the original!—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 20:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
:Why? The remix was 1,000,000,000 times better. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 05:04, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
::I prefer the original. But because TBC didn't make it QOTW, I'ma have to run a cable from my Mac's speakers to my PC's mic port and record it in Audacity.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 15:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:::um, genius, with Audacity you can record without any cable.
::::No need to be rude. Also, please sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). {{User:Bassbone/sig}}
:::Sorry, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=66.222.237.224 66.222.237.224], but you can't record sound without a cable. I just checked Audacity's input options.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 20:19, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm assuming your PC runs Windows... in which case, bring up the volume control (double-click the speaker icon in the taskbar), go into the preferences and choose "Recording" and turn on all the options below. Now, depending on your sound card, you'll want to find something like "Stereo Mix" or "Mixer" or "Output" or something similar, and either turn on "Select" or turn off "Mute" or something like that. Now when you hit "Record" in Audacity (or any other recording software) it will record whatever your speakers are playing... so click Record, then play the toon, and you'll have the soundtrack. It will take a few goes to get the recording level right, but that's how you do it. Under Linux you're probably out of luck, because of the awful way that Flash for Linux plays sound... it can be done, but not directly like this. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:50, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

== Helping us out ==
Once again, although they didn't clear up the issue we were hoping they'd clear up, it almost seems TBC are intentionally trying to help us out on the Wiki, with the new [[lady fan]] quote (it's not actually an outtake; Homestar does say the line but the volume is turned way down and said under one of Strong Bad's lines so you can barely hear it.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

==''From'' vs ''Source''==
I think ''Source'' is better to use than ''From''. Thoughts? I just know I'm gonna get shot down.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 03:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

== The Sadsons ==

The Simpsons used the tai chi/chai tea gag in the 2000 episode "[http://www.snpp.com/episodes/BABF22 HOMR]". Lisa claimed that she dealt with the stress of being an intellectual through practices that included drinking chai tea and doing tai chi. It's even conceivable that the Simpsons similarity was the reason they didn't use this take. Notable? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 18:18, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:Notable. -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 19:47, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
:Weak. I've seen the episode, and rather than the Homestar Runner gag being a reference to a similar Simpsons gag, I'd say that they're both references to the fact that "chai tea" and "tai chi" sound amusingly similar for things that are both considered "new age" but have no semantic relationship. I don't think that every joke in Homestar Runner needs to be noted with everyone who's used the joke before; here, there's simply no tie to The Simpsons. I vote, strongly, for baleetion. [[User:67.101.7.97|67.101.7.97]] 00:18, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

== TGS 10.5 vs death metal ==

Well, this is interesting. An anonny edited the QOTW to read "Teen Girl Squad Issue 10 1/2 ([[death metal]] Easter egg)" instead of "[[death metal]] Easter egg". It was reverted, even though on the TGS page itself, it's listed as TGS 10 1/2. So, why was the anonny edit wrong? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:14, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad's "check me out" quote ==
You shouldn't say it's "similar" to [[first time here]], It actually is from that toon. {{unsigned|70.106.37.69|14:58, 31 March 2006 (UTC)}}
:Although the words are the same, the inflection is quite different – download it and compare... I'm guessing it was another [[Wikipedia:take|take]], but we don't know for sure, so we just say "similar". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
*Just played both of the quotes, and Strong Bad's saying is different from the flash file. So you're right. -[[User:70.106.37.69|70.106.37.69]]

== No Load ==

The old quote (it's just "its") no longer loads. Put it on a mirror, somebody! Just a reminder no one needs. -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 22:45, 6 April 2006 (UTC) AKA gramrabbit in WikiForum...WikiTikkiTavi rules!

== So faint a sound, I thought you would enjoy it! ==

What faint laughter? I don't hear any faint laughter, even with my speakers turned up... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
: Oh, never mind. I hear it now with my headphones on. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:42, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
: And before someone makes a "[[bottom 10|Doot doo]]" crack, I hear that with my new headphones just as clearly as with speakers. I still hear no third syllable. Just in case anyone was wondering. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:51, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
:: Also, the title of the clip (as seen in the properties) is "mike laff". I think that's all the proof we need. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 12:09, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
::: Didn't know that one. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:34, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

== I'm so sorry ==

I was trying to link to a MP3 version of a quote on the kitkorp mirror and I erased everything somehow. Please don't ban me.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Outtakes? ==

I have noticed a lot of the QOTW's have outtake next to them. I cannot find any proof that any of these are outtakes and am wondering how this is comfirmed? {{User:Dylnuge/sig}} 23:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
:Careful listening to some, logic for others. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Hey, Dylnuge, do you honestly think that they'd make the outtakes available to us normally, like have a blooper reel attached to the emails/toons/whatever? I don't think that's the best idea. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 30 June 2006 (UTC) (rhetorical question)

== Shadow Stevens. Master of Mystery. ==

Does anybody understand what the word "stevens" means in this context? (In QOTW for 6/29/06.) And is there a possible/appropriate way to make this information available & connect it to the QOTW? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:28, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
:This[http://www.go-star.com/framer/shadoe.htm] probably explains most of it. It also explains "Circle gets the square." (It's a phrase used on Hollywood Squares.) --[[User:209.161.251.134|209.161.251.134]] 23:04, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

== Latest quote: [[portrait]] outtake? ==

So I noticed my edit was removed that said the new quote was an outtake from portrait... and the person who changed it back was confused as to my reasoning. Well, what happened was that I downloaded the new quote and played it in iTunes, but in iTunes itself the title of the clip was different than the title of the actual file. It said "sbemail139_5_shadowstevens" as the title, which lead me to believe that the quote was an outtake from email 139. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]

:Ooh, good call. And the quote talks about an "artist". I'm wondering about the "5" part of the file title — The only alternative interpretation is that the quote belongs to a [[Strong Bad Email#Not Quite Strong Bad Emails|NQSBE]] occurring in between #139 and #140. I think yours is the more likely interpretation, though (it comes from version 5 of email 139 or something). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

:: No, you did not answer my question with this. Why would its iTunes name be anything remotely resembling official? That's not its name on the site, and who uploaded it to iTunes anyway. You will have to pardon my ignorance of iTunes, but unless we can be sure it was uploaded by the Bros. Chaps, we really can't call that official. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

::: The fact that he's using iTunes has very little to do with it. "sbemail139_5_shadowstevens" is the title string in the ID3v2 tag for the official version of the file. iTunes is an mp3 player, as well as an interface to Apple's iTunes store. Any other mp3 player should be able to tell you the same thing. Coincidently, The Bros. Chaps must have used iTunes at some point in the production process, because the Encoded By string in the ID3v2 tag is "iTunes v6.0.4.2". --[[User:209.161.251.134|209.161.251.134]] 19:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

:::: Again, you'll have to pardon my ignorance concerning iTunes. I think I get it now, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

==Latest quote: 80s rock influence?==

The style of the music and Marzipan's accent and slang remind me of 80s rock bands that featured a female vocalist, such as Siouxsie and the Banshees.
:It doesn't even sound like Marzipan's voice to me. Could it be something that someone else made, and sent to TBC, like the real marching band version of the CGNU fight song? But yeah, it's definately very Female-80s-band-esque. -- [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 03:18, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
::No, if it was fan-made, I'm sure they'd tell us. Also, it'd be too conveniently timed. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Yeah, your probably right. But maybe it was someone other than Missy doing the singing? Wait, I just thought of something. What if this QOTW is supposed to be what Cool Tapes would sound like if Marzipan rocked (from Different Town)?-- [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 22:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Quote of the Week

Chupaqueso — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:54:08 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* Latest quote: 80s rock influence? */

{{featuredarticle}}

<div style="background:#CFC; border: 1px dashed #090; padding:10px">
'''Checklist for new Weeklies:'''
*Add appropriate new entries to [[Quote of the Week]], [[Weekly Fanstuff]] and [[Sketchbook]].
*Add a new {{tl|qotw}} line to the Quote of the Week character's page.
*Check that the previous week's quote is on the mirror (Change the link to Mirror:, Show Preview and click the link)
**If it is, change it on [[Quote of the Week]] and the appropriate character page.
*Update [[Secret Pages XML Source#Weeklies XML File]] with [[HR:weeklies/weeklies.xml|weeklies.xml]] (click View->Page Source and copy/paste)
</div> 

==Uniformity==
The fact that these dates won't line up is driving me nuts. Is there some snippet of code we can use to add a date in a sort of uniform manner? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 13:38, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Ask and ye shall receive. Actually, I came here to ask you if you liked the table, but found your note. You like? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:50, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)
::Yeah, it looks wicked! I looked at the code, and even though it's probably rudimentary HTML, I'm lost on it. That's probably gonna be your thing. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 13:55, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::Okay, I did the whole thing. It looks kind of weird now, since some of the quotes are so long. I don't like how the date and download links get moved down. How about another form of writing the date? I tried another one in the first three, check it out. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:05, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

::::It looks pretty good, but not uniform, ya know? How can we make the long quotey ones look...not jacked up? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:09, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::::Yeah. [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table This] might be of some help. I think this might be the most confusing Wiki format there is. Maybe someone else has some ideas... Joey? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:17, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

::::::This may be a stupid question, but can you use html throughout MediaWiki? Or just when creating tables? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:38, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::::::I think it works everywhere. Strong? Em? <strike>Strike?</strike> <tt>Tt?</tt> Yup. Well, at least those tags work. But it's important to use wikitext where possible. I know that's one thing that Wikignomes do on Wikipedia, they fix someone's crazy HTML and make it simple to understand wikitext. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:20, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

==404'd==
Um hath anys peoples realized that half thy links have been 404'd?
--[[User:Clever Dan|Clever Dan]] 17:42, 9 Oct 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, if someone happens to have those quotes mirrored, it would be great to be able to link to them. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 14:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

::Okay, I have a mirror for a few of them. Most of them I don't have, though. --FatPamPam

Also, if you keep pressing the QotW button, you don't just get Homestar's broken speech bubble, but you also get a frame where he's saying 'undefined' -- Matt 16:59, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

== blabittablough ==

Am I the only one that hears a very clear z at the beginning of the last "word" of the 12/16 quote? I suggested "zabbitablough" as a more accurate transcription, but it was reverted. (BTW, I agree with "blabittablough" in the actual email, but this sounds different.)
:I hear a "Z," as well. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
:Yup. That's definitely a Z. Try changing it again.

Well, it says "zabittablough" on the QOD thing.--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 14:26, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

I think it's a "Z"-Catman87

== QoD files ==

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone was interested in these files I found on my HD. If so, I could upload them somewhere for a while. They seem to all be QoDs, though I can't be sure. (One of them (sb_possums.zip) might not be the original download, but a rezip.)

[[User:The Archon|The Archon]]

File list begins:

blc_hateusomuch.zip

bubs_cantdrive.zip

bubs_chickenshine.zip

bubs_sugarspice.zip

cc_theme.zip

cz_bdhman.zip

email_rokk.zip

gunhaver_rro.zip

hsgirl_likefunny.zip

hs_brutus.zip

hs_grabbinbutt.zip

hs_letmein.zip

HS_PEE.ZIP

HS_REPS.ZIP

hs_thatsbupkis.zip

hs_thnikkaman.zip

k_assaulted.zip

labordaysong_hs.zip

larry_fromzeen.zip

marshie_whatmore.zip

oldaboy2_missvg.zip

sbhs_havetojump.zip

sbz_backoff.zip

sb_brudder.zip

sb_giftshop.zip

SB_JIG.ZIP

sb_kingmessup.zip

SB_MATT.ZIP

sb_possums.zip

sb_sneakup.zip

ss_animal.zip

ss_foodanymore.zip

ss_marzipan.zip

stinko_whatRUdoing.zip

== Mirror ==

Who does the mirrors for the QOWs? The human wedgie one still isn't on there... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:52, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== HRWiki Mirror Uploads ==

Is there any way for users to upload files to hrwiki.org/mirror? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 27 Feb 2005, 22:23 (GMT)

:Nope.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:21, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Error ==

Hi my name is Jess. I have never done wiki before.

I was looking at this quote:

Strong Bad: Oh. Why do you...guys...like me anymore. I-I've lost it! origins outtake.

I don't think the origins strong bad email is the right source for this quote of the week. I just watched the cartoon and I didn't hear the quote in the main toon or in the easter eggs.

Jess

:Hi there Jess. Yeah, it doesn't seem right. Any ideas?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I'm putting in "unknown" for the time being. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 22:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I am quite sure that it IS an outtake from origins. Compare the following two lines:
:::'''[[Strong Bad]] (QOD):''' ''Oh. Why do you''...guys...like me anymore. I-I've lost it!
:::'''STRONG BAD (Origins):''' ''Ugh! Why do you'' Van Peebles always wanna know the origins and histories of every freakin' little thing? Like, do you wanna know how Strong Sad got his belly button, too?
:::The tone is very identical in the parts that match (made italic here). This leads me to believe that it IS indeed an outtake from origins (don't forget, outtakes are recordings that go wrong and are scrapped - they are not part of the final version).
:::While I am the one who originally added outtake to the attribution (originally, it just said origins), I'll let you guys compare for yourselves. --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::I'm still not convinced, though. The context for the two quotes are entirely different, though the tone ''is'' the same. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 19:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::::How on earth do you determine context on a single line? If you mean that the text is different, then that's obvious - it's an outtake, so it would HAVE to be wrong (one way or the other). Besides, I don't recall hearing another possible match in any other toon. --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 07:20, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::::In the outtake, Strong Bad is talking about how everyone likes him. In "origins", he is talking about why he hates that everybody wants to "know the origins of every single little thing". --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:18, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::::::Improvisation is not uncommon in outtakes. It could very easily be explained by Matt forgetting what he was supposed to say, then trying to make up something to go along. And again, I don't see any other potential sources (but feel free to point them out if you have any). --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 15:55, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

Okay, I just noticed something interesting. Taking a look at the first line of the code for this file, I see "ID3 TT2 sbemail123_messup TEN iTunes v4.7.0.42 COM h engiTunNORM" Problem solved, and it look like we were right with "[[origins]] outake."[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:01, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

:FWIW, that would be the ID3v2 tag. We should probably make a note to check for those things in the future. Most audio players (Winamp, for one) should show that info, so there's no need to get out Notepad or a hex editor or whatever you used :). (I can't believe it was really that simple.) --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 18:14, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Zip file==

I'd like to see these all put into zip file(s) to easily download them all at once. As soon as I get an iPod, these are going on there. -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 18:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Ask and ye shall receive! [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/AZ487_Q1.zip ZIP #1] and [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/DZ215_Q2.zip ZIP #2] (The server I use has an upload limit of 2MB, so that's why I had to split them up.) Hope this is helpful anways! --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 06:24, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Sweet! Thanks, I hope some others find this helpful too. [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 18:38, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

==3/17/2005==
Does anyone have the March 17th Quote of the Week? Sadly, it's gone from H*R now.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|StrongstarRunbad]] 11:02, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Added.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:34, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Lost QoDs==

I have a theory that might work. I know it's possible to record the sound from your comp (no clue how, but I know it can be done), so theoretically, couldn't someone record the QoDs without a mirror straight from the toons? It'd come out the same as the QoD, and that could be added to the mirror. -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 14:38, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Sorry, but it's not the same.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Darn. Well, it is better than nothing, right?

:::Well, there IS a way to get sound recorded from your computer, and it's called getting a Mac. (GarageBand can do that.) --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|Talk]] 19:56, 2 Aug 2005 (CDT)

::::So can Windows and *Sound Recorder*, as long as your soundcard supports full duplex - just configure the Sound Mixer to use the proper input source. But that's not the reason we don't.
::::The sound on the site is of lower quality than the QoDs. Though we *could* sample those that are from the DVD, they often have background noise. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 21:04, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::Good point Pidfeot. I just want to point out that the lost Quote of the Week files that we were discussing here have been located and are now available for download.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:36, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Funniest word style ever ==

Apparently, someone made a useless page that listed the empty "Quote of the Week" phrase as different than the picture here. He went about it the wrong way, but he was actually right - at least when halfway on the on the virus Main Page, it really has changed, and to what he said it was. Is this worth note anywhere? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 15:56, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:As I was TRYING to say before the database went down, it says:
"Oh Haldo! This is my
funniest word style
ever times that I've
said! Hope all is on
to it even more
lately! And I wish the
chicken & msg place
was open on
Somedays"
:Lot of H*R refs in this one, huh? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 16:03, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Umm... Un-mirrored quotes not working ==

Is it me or are loads of the un-mirrord quotes not working for download? it brings me to the HSR 404'D page.

:Yes, noname, you are right. It seems all the ZIP files from 3 May 2004 to 11 Nov 2004 have been removed from the site. Give Tom a week or two and we should have all these set up for download through the wiki server (mirror). I don't know if the macintosh 'sit' files will ever be mirrored. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 08:32, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

== Repeated QoD? ==

They repeated the "human wedgie" quote today...why?

Yes, that doesn't really make sense...the only difference is it's AaAaahHmm instead of I'm. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== You're A Girl ==

That link doesn't work. Neither do any of the "external links." I can't find it anywhere. Where is it? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:09, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:You will find "'''youreagirl.mp3'''" in my updated [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/quotepak.zip quote pack]. If you want to take the song directly from Flash, save and open [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/qod1111.swf this file]. I'm glad I saved all those Flash files from last year—when TBC still embedded the quote file into Flash. :) {{User:The Paper/sig}} 08:23, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Hey, thanks, man! --[[User:24.66.94.141|24.66.94.141]] 06:27, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

The quote pack and the file didn't work. In the file, I could hear the quote, but I couldn't download it. Can someone fix this? -- RJMT

:RJMT, you are probably opening the ZIP file (Windows XP allows you to do this) instead of saving the file to a folder on your hard drive. If you try right clicking on [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/quotepak.zip the link] and then click "''Save Target As''..." you should be able to download the quote pack. If you would like more advice, you can tell me more about the situation on my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:The_Paper talk page]. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:49, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Buttdance ==

The "Buttdance" quote is off the site, and it has not been added to this one. Does anyone have it?- [[Bad Graphics Ghost]]

== New Picture ==
Should the transcried QotW in the picture be replaced? I know it's funny and special, but is a glitched QotW the best one to display on top like that? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

== Not working on the web site? ==
<strike>Ok, I just found out that the quote of the week changed and i wanted to download it from the web site, but is it just me, or is the quote not working on the web site right now? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 03:45, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC</strike>

<strike>It didn't work for me either. Weird.....--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 03:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)</strike>

:Works for me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::O wait nvm u just have to wait for a little while after u click on it.... or @ least thats how it is with me... --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 03:50, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah. Just have to wait.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 03:53, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Cool Tapes quote problem?==
when i download the new cool tapes quote, it downloads fine and then i double-click it to open, and it copies it into itunes. but then there's nothing playing there. the time says 00:00. what the heck? can someone help? -dayve_57 4:11 PM august 19

:It works fine for me. I'm not using iTunes, however. Perhaps try to download it again?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:15, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::No, Tom, you're wrong. The answer, if you're trying to get it in Safari, is to get it in Firefox. Usually, Safari works with it, but this time I tried Firefox and it worked. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|Talk]] 19:45, 26 Aug 2005 (CDT)

:::How am I wrong?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:50, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Another Cool Tapes (maybe earlier) quote problem?==
I saved the current Quote of the Week to my computer, knowing full well that this would make the sound clips unavailiable. However, instead of the "Oh Haldo! This is my funniest word style" message, i get a picture of Homestar and the message is "undefined". Did TBC change this, or is it just me? [[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 21:30, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

That's not a problem. It ''do'' read "Oh! Haldo" for about a second or so. Then it read's "undefined". --[[User:81.230.154.89|81.230.154.89]] 14:22, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Re-recorded? ==

When I play the "Cool Tapes" on Quote of the Day, when Marzipan is supposed to say "Ready boys?" it doesn't sound a lot like her. Did they re-record these quotes?
-Catsmeat (I forgot my password...)

:No, they don't. QOTW mp3's sound much clearer than the sound in the Flash cartoon. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:12, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Archive attempt ==

There is no need to split this page up. The page is not too long nor does it have too many images.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:58, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Personally, I feel we should only split pages once they've reached the 32kb size line. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 01:59, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I agree. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:06, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::What about the other two weeklies? They aren't over 32kb, but they take a load time to long and scroll. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== SB ==

A question about Strong Bad as Reynold. Was that shown as Strong Bad, or Reynold? --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 14:31, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:It was shown as Reynold. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 14:33, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::Thank you. {{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 14:45, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Wonder ==

Interestingly, the link for the Horrible Painting's quote "Come on in heeere" was homestarrunner.com/weeklies/rocoulm.mp3. "Rocoulm" struck me as an odd name for the mp3, so I thought I'd preserve that for posterity to speculate on. --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]
:[[Horrible Painting|Already noted.]] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:47, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

==Image Font==

Look at the old QOTW picture, then the new one. The fonts are different for the 'hear it, get it' text. Anybody know when exactly the change happened? It should at least be meantioned somewhere (If it already is, I'm sorry, but I didn't notice it). {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Is it just me or... ==

...has the QotW box reverted back to the one in the middle of [[:Image:Quote Of Week Box Design All.PNG]] instead of the one at the bottom? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 20:52, 18 October 2005 (BST)

:It's not just you - it's happened for me, too. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Homsar999|Contribs]] 15:45, 22 October 2005 (CDT)

::I just looked at the QoTW box, and instead of the default Homestar head, it shows each character in quick succession. Did anybody else notice this? [[User:Ephexx|Ephexx]] 20:12, 26 January 2006 (EST)

== The Good Times ==

Uhh, TBC used "The Good Times Are Over!" 2 times. Has anybody noticed this? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:Actually, yes. This is the second time that TBC have used this quote. — {{User:Lapper/sig}}

::Yes. Most disappointing. [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 19:10, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, it's almost like "I'mmmm the Human Wedgie!" {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 21:45, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, it's definitely round two. Let's sue 'em!—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 12:54, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Well they just changed it to the Strong Bad Is a Bad Guy song. They just have just realized it and changed it.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 21:38, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Interesting. Must be reminicent of the old "Quote of the Day (or so)". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:40, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

== Very mean and boring ==

Okay, I can sorta see the [[origins]] outtake ("Why do you... guys...") after it was explained to me, but I cannot see that the "very mean... things" quote came from [[boring (really)]] as was previously stated. It sounds to me like a generic-ized version of what Strong Bad says in just about ''every'' email. And, what's more, SB didn't say anything particularly close to it in b(r). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:08, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
: And making it "undetermined" is no better!!! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:09, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::: Can you prove that this one isn't an outtake?
:::: ''{farts} "You guys, that was a pretty good one." {laughs} ''
::: How about this one? Unlikely as it is, can you prove it's not?
:::: ''"This is the Strong Bad show, everybody come on down, there's gonna be lots a guests, and it's gonna be pretty fun, maybe at the end, I'll have a serious moment to talk to you guys, but right now I'm gonna throw a bunch of pies, at The Cheat!" ''
::: Yet I see no one insisting on making them "undetermined." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:16, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::: PS. As slow as SB is talking in the new quote, he is ''still'' speaking much faster and with a LOT more (mock?) emotion than in b(r). It's just a generic SB-esque thing to say: something mean and funny. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:18, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
: To me it sounds like his Reynold impression -- it seems like the same voice as "Ugh, I really need to go grocery shopping! I wish my girlfriend didn't leave me!" A [[Cheat Commandos]] outtake, perhaps?
::I compared them side by side. The voices don't exactly match. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:19, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

==what's a belle?!?!==
why does A QOUTE of the day say:"i'm a belle!" when it should say:"i'm a bell!"?-[[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 23:26, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
:We've discussed this at length [[Talk:halloweener#Bell vs. Belle|here]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== QoW Chronology ==

Ok, since no one has seen [[Talk:Quote_of_the_Week_Character_Heads#QoW_chronology|this post]] over there, i'll just point to it over here! Hopefully there is more visibility. ''In fact'', i'll copy my questions here:
I have two related questions:
#When did the QoW start using character heads?
#Wasn't the QoW character heads format just homestar's head used regardless of who was saying stuff, if so, when did they start using *different* character heads for their QoW to show the correct head for a quote?
#--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:40, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:Have no idea. just felt like someone needed to pay attention to this question (aren't I nice?). {{User:Bubsty/xmasig}} 01:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::Awwwww! That is ''very'' nice of you thank you! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:39, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Well, judging by the quotes, I'm guessing they started using them sometime after the 11th of November, 2004. The next quote, on the 22nd, is from [[virus]], which still had the older box without the character head in the toon (check the .swf of "fake-qotw"). But that's all I know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::'''EDIT CONFLICT X2 ALL THANKS TO DORIAN GRAYS REALLY MINOR EDITS THAT HE COULD HAVE WAITED TO DO UNTIL I FINISHED THIS POST''' (just to tell you, I was being sarcastic in that first reply). Woah, that soon? I thought it was earlier. {{User:Bubsty/xmasig}} 01:48, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::What about before, didn't there used to be just the quote and Homestar's head regardless of who made the quote? I vaguely remember that. If so, how long did they have that? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:42, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::I've never heard of that... Sure you're not thinking of when they haven't update the new head, or the error screen? Hopefully someone who's been collecting them longer will know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::I do know that the virus SB quote (I duh du doh crapfully yours) was with the new head design, and it was not Homestar's head, and as far as I know the first quote to implement the new heads. I think Homestar is just default if the image is either not uploaded or not declared as part of the quote thing (or something). {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 02:50, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Okay that makes sense now. I'm asking because I wanted to add the chronology to the QoW character heads page since it has no such information. And I know that the character heads were decompiled and published only recently (last Aug or Sept). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== Fall Float Parade outtake? ==

Recent edit to current QoTW mentioned the quote was from the [[Fall Float Parade]] outtake. Where's this outtake? I don't remember seeing or hearing of one. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:25, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:Hey man, why do you ask? Is the quote from the outtake? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:27, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
::I have no idea - that's why I asked. One thing I'm curious about though is if this QoTW is exactly the same as the quote in the toon itself - TBC have been known to switch it up on us in the past. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:28, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

This is why I had to revert it. None of us know. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:31, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:You mentioned an outtake - I was wondering where this outtake was in the first place. As far as I know, there is no outtake. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:32, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey man, don't you know why I had to revert it? Still, it's reverted. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:33, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
:<nowiki>*shrug*</nowiki> Okay then, sorry. (BTW, I answered my question from above: I captured Coach Z's line from the Toon and listened to it closely, and he does say "zader matermorts" there.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:37, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Meh, I don't want to listen to such a quote like that. Why does he mention that? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:38, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:I listened to the toon and the QotW at the same time (overlapping), and the words and rhythm are the same. Because one sound clip is part of a toon and the other is isolated, the timbre isn't quite the same between the two, but that's the only difference I heard. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:04, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

I used to think that sometimes the Quote of the Week was directly affected by debates over lyric spelling on the wiki. I still do, but now I can see that The [Smelly] Brethren Chaps are playing with us. There wasn't even a debate over Coach Z's line, but now they have to go and make up a word like "zader". --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 23:57, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:What makes you think they were playing with us on this one? I'm pretty sure Coach Z was saying the same thing in the original toon both before and after the QoTW - perhaps they just wanted to clarify it. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:11, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

== zader matermorts ==

[[Image:20051208 zader matermorts.png|thumb|How it is spelled.]]
Just because I have a feeling it will come in handy, I've uploaded a screenshot of the current quote. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:22, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

== 2006 01 12 quote ==

Closest think I can think of is the background of [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]]. Ideas? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:35, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yes. That's exactly it. Thank you, Tom and Rogue. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
::Should we insert this into the transcript? If so, how so? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== SB is a bad guy ==

You guys probably won't believe me, but I begged TBC to put on Strong Bad is a bad guy up. I didn't know they did, I thought they'd Email back. I've no proof, but I did. --[[User:Dinoshaur|Dinoshaur]] 19:20, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

==Ancient history==
Okay, I know it was a long time ago, but I could have sworn 1-Up had a quote in March 2003. It said, "Everyone says that you're the guy, but I wanna be the guy too!" -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 18:49, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:Wait! I just remembered something! It came directly before Homestar's "Brutus" quote. And we have that on the list! -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 18:51, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

==new updates==
I just added the new quote from Jan. 26. There's no sound file yet so I left that blank.

== CGNU ==

Does anybody know what band performed the CGNU Fight Song? --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

No, but judging on the voices, they might be british or austrailian.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 20:11, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

== Another repeated quote? ==

Not that I'm complaining, but did anyone else immediately recognize that we've had this "weekly" quote before? I seem to recall something similar around the time of the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|NYU Talk]] last year...and lo and behold, turns out the wiki has a truncated version cataloged for 25 March '05. Reminds me of the Homsar "Aaah" duplicate. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 03:34, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, if you listen to 'em both, the tone of voice is entirely different. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::And this recent one has new lines. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 03:45, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Under Siege 2 x 2 ==

Anyone else think it suspect that two different "outtake" quotes would use "Under Siege 2" in place of another movie? One uses it in place of "Jurassic Park 3" in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] and the other in place of "Deep Impact" in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:37, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
:It's almost like an inside joke... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Right - but if that's the case, then they're not "outtakes" so much as, I dunno, re-takes? Or maybe just a really weird coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:42, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I think this page is misusing the term "outtake" throughout. Many of the quotes listed as "outtakes" are probably variations created after the fact. What proof do we have that any of them are actual outtakes? "(name of original source) variant" would be better. --Tim333
::::Really. Why would they record alternate versions solely for the purpose of a quote of the week? When you're recording audio for this sort of thing, you do many takes that get edited together after the fact. There are always leftovers. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:02, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::You're right, actually. Don't know what I was thinking. --Tim333

=="Not Talkin’ ’Bout Butter"==
The Cheat's remix is nice and all, but I'd really like the original!—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 20:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
:Why? The remix was 1,000,000,000 times better. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 05:04, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
::I prefer the original. But because TBC didn't make it QOTW, I'ma have to run a cable from my Mac's speakers to my PC's mic port and record it in Audacity.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 15:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:::um, genius, with Audacity you can record without any cable.
::::No need to be rude. Also, please sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). {{User:Bassbone/sig}}
:::Sorry, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=66.222.237.224 66.222.237.224], but you can't record sound without a cable. I just checked Audacity's input options.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 20:19, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm assuming your PC runs Windows... in which case, bring up the volume control (double-click the speaker icon in the taskbar), go into the preferences and choose "Recording" and turn on all the options below. Now, depending on your sound card, you'll want to find something like "Stereo Mix" or "Mixer" or "Output" or something similar, and either turn on "Select" or turn off "Mute" or something like that. Now when you hit "Record" in Audacity (or any other recording software) it will record whatever your speakers are playing... so click Record, then play the toon, and you'll have the soundtrack. It will take a few goes to get the recording level right, but that's how you do it. Under Linux you're probably out of luck, because of the awful way that Flash for Linux plays sound... it can be done, but not directly like this. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:50, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

== Helping us out ==
Once again, although they didn't clear up the issue we were hoping they'd clear up, it almost seems TBC are intentionally trying to help us out on the Wiki, with the new [[lady fan]] quote (it's not actually an outtake; Homestar does say the line but the volume is turned way down and said under one of Strong Bad's lines so you can barely hear it.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

==''From'' vs ''Source''==
I think ''Source'' is better to use than ''From''. Thoughts? I just know I'm gonna get shot down.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 03:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

== The Sadsons ==

The Simpsons used the tai chi/chai tea gag in the 2000 episode "[http://www.snpp.com/episodes/BABF22 HOMR]". Lisa claimed that she dealt with the stress of being an intellectual through practices that included drinking chai tea and doing tai chi. It's even conceivable that the Simpsons similarity was the reason they didn't use this take. Notable? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 18:18, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:Notable. -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 19:47, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
:Weak. I've seen the episode, and rather than the Homestar Runner gag being a reference to a similar Simpsons gag, I'd say that they're both references to the fact that "chai tea" and "tai chi" sound amusingly similar for things that are both considered "new age" but have no semantic relationship. I don't think that every joke in Homestar Runner needs to be noted with everyone who's used the joke before; here, there's simply no tie to The Simpsons. I vote, strongly, for baleetion. [[User:67.101.7.97|67.101.7.97]] 00:18, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

== TGS 10.5 vs death metal ==

Well, this is interesting. An anonny edited the QOTW to read "Teen Girl Squad Issue 10 1/2 ([[death metal]] Easter egg)" instead of "[[death metal]] Easter egg". It was reverted, even though on the TGS page itself, it's listed as TGS 10 1/2. So, why was the anonny edit wrong? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:14, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad's "check me out" quote ==
You shouldn't say it's "similar" to [[first time here]], It actually is from that toon. {{unsigned|70.106.37.69|14:58, 31 March 2006 (UTC)}}
:Although the words are the same, the inflection is quite different – download it and compare... I'm guessing it was another [[Wikipedia:take|take]], but we don't know for sure, so we just say "similar". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
*Just played both of the quotes, and Strong Bad's saying is different from the flash file. So you're right. -[[User:70.106.37.69|70.106.37.69]]

== No Load ==

The old quote (it's just "its") no longer loads. Put it on a mirror, somebody! Just a reminder no one needs. -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 22:45, 6 April 2006 (UTC) AKA gramrabbit in WikiForum...WikiTikkiTavi rules!

== So faint a sound, I thought you would enjoy it! ==

What faint laughter? I don't hear any faint laughter, even with my speakers turned up... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
: Oh, never mind. I hear it now with my headphones on. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:42, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
: And before someone makes a "[[bottom 10|Doot doo]]" crack, I hear that with my new headphones just as clearly as with speakers. I still hear no third syllable. Just in case anyone was wondering. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:51, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
:: Also, the title of the clip (as seen in the properties) is "mike laff". I think that's all the proof we need. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 12:09, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
::: Didn't know that one. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:34, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

== I'm so sorry ==

I was trying to link to a MP3 version of a quote on the kitkorp mirror and I erased everything somehow. Please don't ban me.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Outtakes? ==

I have noticed a lot of the QOTW's have outtake next to them. I cannot find any proof that any of these are outtakes and am wondering how this is comfirmed? {{User:Dylnuge/sig}} 23:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
:Careful listening to some, logic for others. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Hey, Dylnuge, do you honestly think that they'd make the outtakes available to us normally, like have a blooper reel attached to the emails/toons/whatever? I don't think that's the best idea. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 30 June 2006 (UTC) (rhetorical question)

== Shadow Stevens. Master of Mystery. ==

Does anybody understand what the word "stevens" means in this context? (In QOTW for 6/29/06.) And is there a possible/appropriate way to make this information available & connect it to the QOTW? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:28, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
:This[http://www.go-star.com/framer/shadoe.htm] probably explains most of it. It also explains "Circle gets the square." (It's a phrase used on Hollywood Squares.) --[[User:209.161.251.134|209.161.251.134]] 23:04, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

== Latest quote: [[portrait]] outtake? ==

So I noticed my edit was removed that said the new quote was an outtake from portrait... and the person who changed it back was confused as to my reasoning. Well, what happened was that I downloaded the new quote and played it in iTunes, but in iTunes itself the title of the clip was different than the title of the actual file. It said "sbemail139_5_shadowstevens" as the title, which lead me to believe that the quote was an outtake from email 139. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]

:Ooh, good call. And the quote talks about an "artist". I'm wondering about the "5" part of the file title — The only alternative interpretation is that the quote belongs to a [[Strong Bad Email#Not Quite Strong Bad Emails|NQSBE]] occurring in between #139 and #140. I think yours is the more likely interpretation, though (it comes from version 5 of email 139 or something). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

:: No, you did not answer my question with this. Why would its iTunes name be anything remotely resembling official? That's not its name on the site, and who uploaded it to iTunes anyway. You will have to pardon my ignorance of iTunes, but unless we can be sure it was uploaded by the Bros. Chaps, we really can't call that official. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

::: The fact that he's using iTunes has very little to do with it. "sbemail139_5_shadowstevens" is the title string in the ID3v2 tag for the official version of the file. iTunes is an mp3 player, as well as an interface to Apple's iTunes store. Any other mp3 player should be able to tell you the same thing. Coincidently, The Bros. Chaps must have used iTunes at some point in the production process, because the Encoded By string in the ID3v2 tag is "iTunes v6.0.4.2". --[[User:209.161.251.134|209.161.251.134]] 19:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

:::: Again, you'll have to pardon my ignorance concerning iTunes. I think I get it now, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

==Latest quote: 80s rock influence?==

The style of the music and Marzipan's accent and slang remind me of 80s rock bands that featured a female vocalist, such as Siouxsie and the Banshees.
:It doesn't even sound like Marzipan's voice to me. Could it be something that someone else made, and sent to TBC, like the real marching band version of the CGNU fight song? But yeah, it's definately very Female-80s-band-esque. -- [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 03:18, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
::No, if it was fan-made, I'm sure they'd tell us. Also, it'd be too conveniently timed. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Yeah, your probably right. But maybe it was someone other than Missy doing the singing? -- [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 22:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Quote of the Week

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<div style="background:#CFC; border: 1px dashed #090; padding:10px">
'''Checklist for new Weeklies:'''
*Add appropriate new entries to [[Quote of the Week]], [[Weekly Fanstuff]] and [[Sketchbook]].
*Add a new {{tl|qotw}} line to the Quote of the Week character's page.
*Check that the previous week's quote is on the mirror (Change the link to Mirror:, Show Preview and click the link)
**If it is, change it on [[Quote of the Week]] and the appropriate character page.
*Update [[Secret Pages XML Source#Weeklies XML File]] with [[HR:weeklies/weeklies.xml|weeklies.xml]] (click View->Page Source and copy/paste)
</div> 

==Uniformity==
The fact that these dates won't line up is driving me nuts. Is there some snippet of code we can use to add a date in a sort of uniform manner? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 13:38, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Ask and ye shall receive. Actually, I came here to ask you if you liked the table, but found your note. You like? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:50, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)
::Yeah, it looks wicked! I looked at the code, and even though it's probably rudimentary HTML, I'm lost on it. That's probably gonna be your thing. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 13:55, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::Okay, I did the whole thing. It looks kind of weird now, since some of the quotes are so long. I don't like how the date and download links get moved down. How about another form of writing the date? I tried another one in the first three, check it out. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:05, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

::::It looks pretty good, but not uniform, ya know? How can we make the long quotey ones look...not jacked up? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:09, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::::Yeah. [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table This] might be of some help. I think this might be the most confusing Wiki format there is. Maybe someone else has some ideas... Joey? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:17, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

::::::This may be a stupid question, but can you use html throughout MediaWiki? Or just when creating tables? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:38, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::::::I think it works everywhere. Strong? Em? <strike>Strike?</strike> <tt>Tt?</tt> Yup. Well, at least those tags work. But it's important to use wikitext where possible. I know that's one thing that Wikignomes do on Wikipedia, they fix someone's crazy HTML and make it simple to understand wikitext. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:20, 11 Aug 2004 (MST)

==404'd==
Um hath anys peoples realized that half thy links have been 404'd?
--[[User:Clever Dan|Clever Dan]] 17:42, 9 Oct 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, if someone happens to have those quotes mirrored, it would be great to be able to link to them. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 14:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

::Okay, I have a mirror for a few of them. Most of them I don't have, though. --FatPamPam

Also, if you keep pressing the QotW button, you don't just get Homestar's broken speech bubble, but you also get a frame where he's saying 'undefined' -- Matt 16:59, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

== blabittablough ==

Am I the only one that hears a very clear z at the beginning of the last "word" of the 12/16 quote? I suggested "zabbitablough" as a more accurate transcription, but it was reverted. (BTW, I agree with "blabittablough" in the actual email, but this sounds different.)
:I hear a "Z," as well. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]
:Yup. That's definitely a Z. Try changing it again.

Well, it says "zabittablough" on the QOD thing.--[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 14:26, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

I think it's a "Z"-Catman87

== QoD files ==

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone was interested in these files I found on my HD. If so, I could upload them somewhere for a while. They seem to all be QoDs, though I can't be sure. (One of them (sb_possums.zip) might not be the original download, but a rezip.)

[[User:The Archon|The Archon]]

File list begins:

blc_hateusomuch.zip

bubs_cantdrive.zip

bubs_chickenshine.zip

bubs_sugarspice.zip

cc_theme.zip

cz_bdhman.zip

email_rokk.zip

gunhaver_rro.zip

hsgirl_likefunny.zip

hs_brutus.zip

hs_grabbinbutt.zip

hs_letmein.zip

HS_PEE.ZIP

HS_REPS.ZIP

hs_thatsbupkis.zip

hs_thnikkaman.zip

k_assaulted.zip

labordaysong_hs.zip

larry_fromzeen.zip

marshie_whatmore.zip

oldaboy2_missvg.zip

sbhs_havetojump.zip

sbz_backoff.zip

sb_brudder.zip

sb_giftshop.zip

SB_JIG.ZIP

sb_kingmessup.zip

SB_MATT.ZIP

sb_possums.zip

sb_sneakup.zip

ss_animal.zip

ss_foodanymore.zip

ss_marzipan.zip

stinko_whatRUdoing.zip

== Mirror ==

Who does the mirrors for the QOWs? The human wedgie one still isn't on there... →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 12:52, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== HRWiki Mirror Uploads ==

Is there any way for users to upload files to hrwiki.org/mirror? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 27 Feb 2005, 22:23 (GMT)

:Nope.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:21, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Error ==

Hi my name is Jess. I have never done wiki before.

I was looking at this quote:

Strong Bad: Oh. Why do you...guys...like me anymore. I-I've lost it! origins outtake.

I don't think the origins strong bad email is the right source for this quote of the week. I just watched the cartoon and I didn't hear the quote in the main toon or in the easter eggs.

Jess

:Hi there Jess. Yeah, it doesn't seem right. Any ideas?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:45, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I'm putting in "unknown" for the time being. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 22:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I am quite sure that it IS an outtake from origins. Compare the following two lines:
:::'''[[Strong Bad]] (QOD):''' ''Oh. Why do you''...guys...like me anymore. I-I've lost it!
:::'''STRONG BAD (Origins):''' ''Ugh! Why do you'' Van Peebles always wanna know the origins and histories of every freakin' little thing? Like, do you wanna know how Strong Sad got his belly button, too?
:::The tone is very identical in the parts that match (made italic here). This leads me to believe that it IS indeed an outtake from origins (don't forget, outtakes are recordings that go wrong and are scrapped - they are not part of the final version).
:::While I am the one who originally added outtake to the attribution (originally, it just said origins), I'll let you guys compare for yourselves. --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 15:26, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::I'm still not convinced, though. The context for the two quotes are entirely different, though the tone ''is'' the same. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 19:26, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::::How on earth do you determine context on a single line? If you mean that the text is different, then that's obvious - it's an outtake, so it would HAVE to be wrong (one way or the other). Besides, I don't recall hearing another possible match in any other toon. --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 07:20, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::::In the outtake, Strong Bad is talking about how everyone likes him. In "origins", he is talking about why he hates that everybody wants to "know the origins of every single little thing". --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:18, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::::::Improvisation is not uncommon in outtakes. It could very easily be explained by Matt forgetting what he was supposed to say, then trying to make up something to go along. And again, I don't see any other potential sources (but feel free to point them out if you have any). --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 15:55, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

Okay, I just noticed something interesting. Taking a look at the first line of the code for this file, I see "ID3 TT2 sbemail123_messup TEN iTunes v4.7.0.42 COM h engiTunNORM" Problem solved, and it look like we were right with "[[origins]] outake."[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:01, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

:FWIW, that would be the ID3v2 tag. We should probably make a note to check for those things in the future. Most audio players (Winamp, for one) should show that info, so there's no need to get out Notepad or a hex editor or whatever you used :). (I can't believe it was really that simple.) --[[User:83.88.139.125|83.88.139.125]] 18:14, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Zip file==

I'd like to see these all put into zip file(s) to easily download them all at once. As soon as I get an iPod, these are going on there. -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 18:07, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Ask and ye shall receive! [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/AZ487_Q1.zip ZIP #1] and [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/DZ215_Q2.zip ZIP #2] (The server I use has an upload limit of 2MB, so that's why I had to split them up.) Hope this is helpful anways! --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 06:24, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Sweet! Thanks, I hope some others find this helpful too. [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 18:38, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)

==3/17/2005==
Does anyone have the March 17th Quote of the Week? Sadly, it's gone from H*R now.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|StrongstarRunbad]] 11:02, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Added.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:34, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Lost QoDs==

I have a theory that might work. I know it's possible to record the sound from your comp (no clue how, but I know it can be done), so theoretically, couldn't someone record the QoDs without a mirror straight from the toons? It'd come out the same as the QoD, and that could be added to the mirror. -- [[User:nintendorulez|nintendorulez]] 14:38, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Sorry, but it's not the same.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:18, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Darn. Well, it is better than nothing, right?

:::Well, there IS a way to get sound recorded from your computer, and it's called getting a Mac. (GarageBand can do that.) --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|Talk]] 19:56, 2 Aug 2005 (CDT)

::::So can Windows and *Sound Recorder*, as long as your soundcard supports full duplex - just configure the Sound Mixer to use the proper input source. But that's not the reason we don't.
::::The sound on the site is of lower quality than the QoDs. Though we *could* sample those that are from the DVD, they often have background noise. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 21:04, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::Good point Pidfeot. I just want to point out that the lost Quote of the Week files that we were discussing here have been located and are now available for download.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:36, 13 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Funniest word style ever ==

Apparently, someone made a useless page that listed the empty "Quote of the Week" phrase as different than the picture here. He went about it the wrong way, but he was actually right - at least when halfway on the on the virus Main Page, it really has changed, and to what he said it was. Is this worth note anywhere? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 15:56, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:As I was TRYING to say before the database went down, it says:
"Oh Haldo! This is my
funniest word style
ever times that I've
said! Hope all is on
to it even more
lately! And I wish the
chicken & msg place
was open on
Somedays"
:Lot of H*R refs in this one, huh? --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 16:03, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Umm... Un-mirrored quotes not working ==

Is it me or are loads of the un-mirrord quotes not working for download? it brings me to the HSR 404'D page.

:Yes, noname, you are right. It seems all the ZIP files from 3 May 2004 to 11 Nov 2004 have been removed from the site. Give Tom a week or two and we should have all these set up for download through the wiki server (mirror). I don't know if the macintosh 'sit' files will ever be mirrored. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 08:32, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

== Repeated QoD? ==

They repeated the "human wedgie" quote today...why?

Yes, that doesn't really make sense...the only difference is it's AaAaahHmm instead of I'm. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== You're A Girl ==

That link doesn't work. Neither do any of the "external links." I can't find it anywhere. Where is it? --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:09, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:You will find "'''youreagirl.mp3'''" in my updated [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/quotepak.zip quote pack]. If you want to take the song directly from Flash, save and open [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/qod1111.swf this file]. I'm glad I saved all those Flash files from last year—when TBC still embedded the quote file into Flash. :) {{User:The Paper/sig}} 08:23, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Hey, thanks, man! --[[User:24.66.94.141|24.66.94.141]] 06:27, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

The quote pack and the file didn't work. In the file, I could hear the quote, but I couldn't download it. Can someone fix this? -- RJMT

:RJMT, you are probably opening the ZIP file (Windows XP allows you to do this) instead of saving the file to a folder on your hard drive. If you try right clicking on [http://www.strongfans.com/upload/ThePaper/quotepak.zip the link] and then click "''Save Target As''..." you should be able to download the quote pack. If you would like more advice, you can tell me more about the situation on my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:The_Paper talk page]. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:49, 22 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Buttdance ==

The "Buttdance" quote is off the site, and it has not been added to this one. Does anyone have it?- [[Bad Graphics Ghost]]

== New Picture ==
Should the transcried QotW in the picture be replaced? I know it's funny and special, but is a glitched QotW the best one to display on top like that? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

== Not working on the web site? ==
<strike>Ok, I just found out that the quote of the week changed and i wanted to download it from the web site, but is it just me, or is the quote not working on the web site right now? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 03:45, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC</strike>

<strike>It didn't work for me either. Weird.....--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 03:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)</strike>

:Works for me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:48, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::O wait nvm u just have to wait for a little while after u click on it.... or @ least thats how it is with me... --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 03:50, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah. Just have to wait.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 03:53, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Cool Tapes quote problem?==
when i download the new cool tapes quote, it downloads fine and then i double-click it to open, and it copies it into itunes. but then there's nothing playing there. the time says 00:00. what the heck? can someone help? -dayve_57 4:11 PM august 19

:It works fine for me. I'm not using iTunes, however. Perhaps try to download it again?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:15, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::No, Tom, you're wrong. The answer, if you're trying to get it in Safari, is to get it in Firefox. Usually, Safari works with it, but this time I tried Firefox and it worked. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|Talk]] 19:45, 26 Aug 2005 (CDT)

:::How am I wrong?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:50, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Another Cool Tapes (maybe earlier) quote problem?==
I saved the current Quote of the Week to my computer, knowing full well that this would make the sound clips unavailiable. However, instead of the "Oh Haldo! This is my funniest word style" message, i get a picture of Homestar and the message is "undefined". Did TBC change this, or is it just me? [[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 21:30, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

That's not a problem. It ''do'' read "Oh! Haldo" for about a second or so. Then it read's "undefined". --[[User:81.230.154.89|81.230.154.89]] 14:22, 24 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Re-recorded? ==

When I play the "Cool Tapes" on Quote of the Day, when Marzipan is supposed to say "Ready boys?" it doesn't sound a lot like her. Did they re-record these quotes?
-Catsmeat (I forgot my password...)

:No, they don't. QOTW mp3's sound much clearer than the sound in the Flash cartoon. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:12, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Archive attempt ==

There is no need to split this page up. The page is not too long nor does it have too many images.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 01:58, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Personally, I feel we should only split pages once they've reached the 32kb size line. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 01:59, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I agree. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:06, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::What about the other two weeklies? They aren't over 32kb, but they take a load time to long and scroll. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== SB ==

A question about Strong Bad as Reynold. Was that shown as Strong Bad, or Reynold? --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 14:31, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:It was shown as Reynold. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 14:33, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::Thank you. {{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 14:45, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Wonder ==

Interestingly, the link for the Horrible Painting's quote "Come on in heeere" was homestarrunner.com/weeklies/rocoulm.mp3. "Rocoulm" struck me as an odd name for the mp3, so I thought I'd preserve that for posterity to speculate on. --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]
:[[Horrible Painting|Already noted.]] - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:47, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

==Image Font==

Look at the old QOTW picture, then the new one. The fonts are different for the 'hear it, get it' text. Anybody know when exactly the change happened? It should at least be meantioned somewhere (If it already is, I'm sorry, but I didn't notice it). {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Is it just me or... ==

...has the QotW box reverted back to the one in the middle of [[:Image:Quote Of Week Box Design All.PNG]] instead of the one at the bottom? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 20:52, 18 October 2005 (BST)

:It's not just you - it's happened for me, too. --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Homsar999|Contribs]] 15:45, 22 October 2005 (CDT)

::I just looked at the QoTW box, and instead of the default Homestar head, it shows each character in quick succession. Did anybody else notice this? [[User:Ephexx|Ephexx]] 20:12, 26 January 2006 (EST)

== The Good Times ==

Uhh, TBC used "The Good Times Are Over!" 2 times. Has anybody noticed this? {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

:Actually, yes. This is the second time that TBC have used this quote. — {{User:Lapper/sig}}

::Yes. Most disappointing. [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 19:10, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, it's almost like "I'mmmm the Human Wedgie!" {{User:H*R 700/sig}} 21:45, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, it's definitely round two. Let's sue 'em!—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 12:54, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Well they just changed it to the Strong Bad Is a Bad Guy song. They just have just realized it and changed it.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 21:38, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Interesting. Must be reminicent of the old "Quote of the Day (or so)". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:40, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

== Very mean and boring ==

Okay, I can sorta see the [[origins]] outtake ("Why do you... guys...") after it was explained to me, but I cannot see that the "very mean... things" quote came from [[boring (really)]] as was previously stated. It sounds to me like a generic-ized version of what Strong Bad says in just about ''every'' email. And, what's more, SB didn't say anything particularly close to it in b(r). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:08, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
: And making it "undetermined" is no better!!! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:09, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::: Can you prove that this one isn't an outtake?
:::: ''{farts} "You guys, that was a pretty good one." {laughs} ''
::: How about this one? Unlikely as it is, can you prove it's not?
:::: ''"This is the Strong Bad show, everybody come on down, there's gonna be lots a guests, and it's gonna be pretty fun, maybe at the end, I'll have a serious moment to talk to you guys, but right now I'm gonna throw a bunch of pies, at The Cheat!" ''
::: Yet I see no one insisting on making them "undetermined." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:16, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::: PS. As slow as SB is talking in the new quote, he is ''still'' speaking much faster and with a LOT more (mock?) emotion than in b(r). It's just a generic SB-esque thing to say: something mean and funny. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:18, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
: To me it sounds like his Reynold impression -- it seems like the same voice as "Ugh, I really need to go grocery shopping! I wish my girlfriend didn't leave me!" A [[Cheat Commandos]] outtake, perhaps?
::I compared them side by side. The voices don't exactly match. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 02:19, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

==what's a belle?!?!==
why does A QOUTE of the day say:"i'm a belle!" when it should say:"i'm a bell!"?-[[User:Jibney|Jibney]] 23:26, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
:We've discussed this at length [[Talk:halloweener#Bell vs. Belle|here]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== QoW Chronology ==

Ok, since no one has seen [[Talk:Quote_of_the_Week_Character_Heads#QoW_chronology|this post]] over there, i'll just point to it over here! Hopefully there is more visibility. ''In fact'', i'll copy my questions here:
I have two related questions:
#When did the QoW start using character heads?
#Wasn't the QoW character heads format just homestar's head used regardless of who was saying stuff, if so, when did they start using *different* character heads for their QoW to show the correct head for a quote?
#--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:40, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:Have no idea. just felt like someone needed to pay attention to this question (aren't I nice?). {{User:Bubsty/xmasig}} 01:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::Awwwww! That is ''very'' nice of you thank you! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:39, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Well, judging by the quotes, I'm guessing they started using them sometime after the 11th of November, 2004. The next quote, on the 22nd, is from [[virus]], which still had the older box without the character head in the toon (check the .swf of "fake-qotw"). But that's all I know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::'''EDIT CONFLICT X2 ALL THANKS TO DORIAN GRAYS REALLY MINOR EDITS THAT HE COULD HAVE WAITED TO DO UNTIL I FINISHED THIS POST''' (just to tell you, I was being sarcastic in that first reply). Woah, that soon? I thought it was earlier. {{User:Bubsty/xmasig}} 01:48, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::What about before, didn't there used to be just the quote and Homestar's head regardless of who made the quote? I vaguely remember that. If so, how long did they have that? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:42, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::I've never heard of that... Sure you're not thinking of when they haven't update the new head, or the error screen? Hopefully someone who's been collecting them longer will know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::I do know that the virus SB quote (I duh du doh crapfully yours) was with the new head design, and it was not Homestar's head, and as far as I know the first quote to implement the new heads. I think Homestar is just default if the image is either not uploaded or not declared as part of the quote thing (or something). {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 02:50, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Okay that makes sense now. I'm asking because I wanted to add the chronology to the QoW character heads page since it has no such information. And I know that the character heads were decompiled and published only recently (last Aug or Sept). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== Fall Float Parade outtake? ==

Recent edit to current QoTW mentioned the quote was from the [[Fall Float Parade]] outtake. Where's this outtake? I don't remember seeing or hearing of one. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:25, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:Hey man, why do you ask? Is the quote from the outtake? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:27, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
::I have no idea - that's why I asked. One thing I'm curious about though is if this QoTW is exactly the same as the quote in the toon itself - TBC have been known to switch it up on us in the past. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:28, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

This is why I had to revert it. None of us know. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:31, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:You mentioned an outtake - I was wondering where this outtake was in the first place. As far as I know, there is no outtake. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:32, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey man, don't you know why I had to revert it? Still, it's reverted. --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:33, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
:<nowiki>*shrug*</nowiki> Okay then, sorry. (BTW, I answered my question from above: I captured Coach Z's line from the Toon and listened to it closely, and he does say "zader matermorts" there.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:37, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Meh, I don't want to listen to such a quote like that. Why does he mention that? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 20:38, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:I listened to the toon and the QotW at the same time (overlapping), and the words and rhythm are the same. Because one sound clip is part of a toon and the other is isolated, the timbre isn't quite the same between the two, but that's the only difference I heard. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:04, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

I used to think that sometimes the Quote of the Week was directly affected by debates over lyric spelling on the wiki. I still do, but now I can see that The [Smelly] Brethren Chaps are playing with us. There wasn't even a debate over Coach Z's line, but now they have to go and make up a word like "zader". --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 23:57, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:What makes you think they were playing with us on this one? I'm pretty sure Coach Z was saying the same thing in the original toon both before and after the QoTW - perhaps they just wanted to clarify it. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:11, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

== zader matermorts ==

[[Image:20051208 zader matermorts.png|thumb|How it is spelled.]]
Just because I have a feeling it will come in handy, I've uploaded a screenshot of the current quote. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:22, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

== 2006 01 12 quote ==

Closest think I can think of is the background of [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]]. Ideas? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:35, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yes. That's exactly it. Thank you, Tom and Rogue. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:36, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
::Should we insert this into the transcript? If so, how so? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== SB is a bad guy ==

You guys probably won't believe me, but I begged TBC to put on Strong Bad is a bad guy up. I didn't know they did, I thought they'd Email back. I've no proof, but I did. --[[User:Dinoshaur|Dinoshaur]] 19:20, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

==Ancient history==
Okay, I know it was a long time ago, but I could have sworn 1-Up had a quote in March 2003. It said, "Everyone says that you're the guy, but I wanna be the guy too!" -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 18:49, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:Wait! I just remembered something! It came directly before Homestar's "Brutus" quote. And we have that on the list! -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 18:51, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

==new updates==
I just added the new quote from Jan. 26. There's no sound file yet so I left that blank.

== CGNU ==

Does anybody know what band performed the CGNU Fight Song? --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

No, but judging on the voices, they might be british or austrailian.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 20:11, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

== Another repeated quote? ==

Not that I'm complaining, but did anyone else immediately recognize that we've had this "weekly" quote before? I seem to recall something similar around the time of the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|NYU Talk]] last year...and lo and behold, turns out the wiki has a truncated version cataloged for 25 March '05. Reminds me of the Homsar "Aaah" duplicate. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 03:34, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, if you listen to 'em both, the tone of voice is entirely different. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::And this recent one has new lines. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 03:45, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Under Siege 2 x 2 ==

Anyone else think it suspect that two different "outtake" quotes would use "Under Siege 2" in place of another movie? One uses it in place of "Jurassic Park 3" in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] and the other in place of "Deep Impact" in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:37, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
:It's almost like an inside joke... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Right - but if that's the case, then they're not "outtakes" so much as, I dunno, re-takes? Or maybe just a really weird coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:42, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I think this page is misusing the term "outtake" throughout. Many of the quotes listed as "outtakes" are probably variations created after the fact. What proof do we have that any of them are actual outtakes? "(name of original source) variant" would be better. --Tim333
::::Really. Why would they record alternate versions solely for the purpose of a quote of the week? When you're recording audio for this sort of thing, you do many takes that get edited together after the fact. There are always leftovers. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:02, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::You're right, actually. Don't know what I was thinking. --Tim333

=="Not Talkin’ ’Bout Butter"==
The Cheat's remix is nice and all, but I'd really like the original!—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 20:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
:Why? The remix was 1,000,000,000 times better. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 05:04, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
::I prefer the original. But because TBC didn't make it QOTW, I'ma have to run a cable from my Mac's speakers to my PC's mic port and record it in Audacity.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 15:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:::um, genius, with Audacity you can record without any cable.
::::No need to be rude. Also, please sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). {{User:Bassbone/sig}}
:::Sorry, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=66.222.237.224 66.222.237.224], but you can't record sound without a cable. I just checked Audacity's input options.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 20:19, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm assuming your PC runs Windows... in which case, bring up the volume control (double-click the speaker icon in the taskbar), go into the preferences and choose "Recording" and turn on all the options below. Now, depending on your sound card, you'll want to find something like "Stereo Mix" or "Mixer" or "Output" or something similar, and either turn on "Select" or turn off "Mute" or something like that. Now when you hit "Record" in Audacity (or any other recording software) it will record whatever your speakers are playing... so click Record, then play the toon, and you'll have the soundtrack. It will take a few goes to get the recording level right, but that's how you do it. Under Linux you're probably out of luck, because of the awful way that Flash for Linux plays sound... it can be done, but not directly like this. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:50, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

== Helping us out ==
Once again, although they didn't clear up the issue we were hoping they'd clear up, it almost seems TBC are intentionally trying to help us out on the Wiki, with the new [[lady fan]] quote (it's not actually an outtake; Homestar does say the line but the volume is turned way down and said under one of Strong Bad's lines so you can barely hear it.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

==''From'' vs ''Source''==
I think ''Source'' is better to use than ''From''. Thoughts? I just know I'm gonna get shot down.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 03:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

== The Sadsons ==

The Simpsons used the tai chi/chai tea gag in the 2000 episode "[http://www.snpp.com/episodes/BABF22 HOMR]". Lisa claimed that she dealt with the stress of being an intellectual through practices that included drinking chai tea and doing tai chi. It's even conceivable that the Simpsons similarity was the reason they didn't use this take. Notable? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 18:18, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
:Notable. -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 19:47, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
:Weak. I've seen the episode, and rather than the Homestar Runner gag being a reference to a similar Simpsons gag, I'd say that they're both references to the fact that "chai tea" and "tai chi" sound amusingly similar for things that are both considered "new age" but have no semantic relationship. I don't think that every joke in Homestar Runner needs to be noted with everyone who's used the joke before; here, there's simply no tie to The Simpsons. I vote, strongly, for baleetion. [[User:67.101.7.97|67.101.7.97]] 00:18, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

== TGS 10.5 vs death metal ==

Well, this is interesting. An anonny edited the QOTW to read "Teen Girl Squad Issue 10 1/2 ([[death metal]] Easter egg)" instead of "[[death metal]] Easter egg". It was reverted, even though on the TGS page itself, it's listed as TGS 10 1/2. So, why was the anonny edit wrong? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:14, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad's "check me out" quote ==
You shouldn't say it's "similar" to [[first time here]], It actually is from that toon. {{unsigned|70.106.37.69|14:58, 31 March 2006 (UTC)}}
:Although the words are the same, the inflection is quite different – download it and compare... I'm guessing it was another [[Wikipedia:take|take]], but we don't know for sure, so we just say "similar". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
*Just played both of the quotes, and Strong Bad's saying is different from the flash file. So you're right. -[[User:70.106.37.69|70.106.37.69]]

== No Load ==

The old quote (it's just "its") no longer loads. Put it on a mirror, somebody! Just a reminder no one needs. -[[User:RadSkat3|RadSkat3]] 22:45, 6 April 2006 (UTC) AKA gramrabbit in WikiForum...WikiTikkiTavi rules!

== So faint a sound, I thought you would enjoy it! ==

What faint laughter? I don't hear any faint laughter, even with my speakers turned up... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
: Oh, never mind. I hear it now with my headphones on. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:42, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
: And before someone makes a "[[bottom 10|Doot doo]]" crack, I hear that with my new headphones just as clearly as with speakers. I still hear no third syllable. Just in case anyone was wondering. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:51, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
:: Also, the title of the clip (as seen in the properties) is "mike laff". I think that's all the proof we need. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 12:09, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
::: Didn't know that one. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:34, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

== I'm so sorry ==

I was trying to link to a MP3 version of a quote on the kitkorp mirror and I erased everything somehow. Please don't ban me.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 20:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Outtakes? ==

I have noticed a lot of the QOTW's have outtake next to them. I cannot find any proof that any of these are outtakes and am wondering how this is comfirmed? {{User:Dylnuge/sig}} 23:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
:Careful listening to some, logic for others. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Hey, Dylnuge, do you honestly think that they'd make the outtakes available to us normally, like have a blooper reel attached to the emails/toons/whatever? I don't think that's the best idea. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:47, 30 June 2006 (UTC) (rhetorical question)

== Shadow Stevens. Master of Mystery. ==

Does anybody understand what the word "stevens" means in this context? (In QOTW for 6/29/06.) And is there a possible/appropriate way to make this information available & connect it to the QOTW? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:28, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
:This[http://www.go-star.com/framer/shadoe.htm] probably explains most of it. It also explains "Circle gets the square." (It's a phrase used on Hollywood Squares.) --[[User:209.161.251.134|209.161.251.134]] 23:04, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

== Latest quote: [[portrait]] outtake? ==

So I noticed my edit was removed that said the new quote was an outtake from portrait... and the person who changed it back was confused as to my reasoning. Well, what happened was that I downloaded the new quote and played it in iTunes, but in iTunes itself the title of the clip was different than the title of the actual file. It said "sbemail139_5_shadowstevens" as the title, which lead me to believe that the quote was an outtake from email 139. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]

:Ooh, good call. And the quote talks about an "artist". I'm wondering about the "5" part of the file title — The only alternative interpretation is that the quote belongs to a [[Strong Bad Email#Not Quite Strong Bad Emails|NQSBE]] occurring in between #139 and #140. I think yours is the more likely interpretation, though (it comes from version 5 of email 139 or something). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

:: No, you did not answer my question with this. Why would its iTunes name be anything remotely resembling official? That's not its name on the site, and who uploaded it to iTunes anyway. You will have to pardon my ignorance of iTunes, but unless we can be sure it was uploaded by the Bros. Chaps, we really can't call that official. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

::: The fact that he's using iTunes has very little to do with it. "sbemail139_5_shadowstevens" is the title string in the ID3v2 tag for the official version of the file. iTunes is an mp3 player, as well as an interface to Apple's iTunes store. Any other mp3 player should be able to tell you the same thing. Coincidently, The Bros. Chaps must have used iTunes at some point in the production process, because the Encoded By string in the ID3v2 tag is "iTunes v6.0.4.2". --[[User:209.161.251.134|209.161.251.134]] 19:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

:::: Again, you'll have to pardon my ignorance concerning iTunes. I think I get it now, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

==Latest quote: 80s rock influence?==

The style of the music and Marzipan's accent and slang remind me of 80s rock bands that featured a female vocalist, such as Siouxsie and the Banshees.
:It doesn't even sound like Marzipan's voice to me. Could it be something that someone else made, and sent to TBC, like the real marching band version of the CGNU fight song? -- [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 03:18, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Weclome Back

Chupaqueso — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 17:37:23 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* Blogs? */

==Bologna==
We can leave the Baloney in Baloney Sammich Truck but otherwise it should be bologna
:Both are accepted spellings... [http://m-w.com/dictionary/baloney Merriam-Webster] lists Baloney as a variant of Bologna. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Those words have undergone differentiation. ''Baloney'' is properly only "nonsense", and the meat product is ''bologna''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::It's dot com, I don't think that's a true statement. M-W shows it as a variant of "bologna"; if you have a dictionary citation where it's noted that "baloney" doesn't mean "bologna" anymore, then provide it. Especially as they use the "baloney" spelling in the toon, and barring absence of evidence that it cannot adequately mean the meat, we should use the "baloney" spelling throughout. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::: Touché. Sandwich was also misspelled as "sammich" so the explicit use of "baloney' was probably just word play.
:::::"Sammich" is not a documented and accepted spelling of "sandwich", however. "Baloney" is. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::: I have personally never seen the sausage meat being spelled as anything except "bologna" in any ''serious'' context. Bubs' truck is hardly what I'd call serious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Because simple personal experience is limited, we have lexicographers whose job it is to determine actual usage on the broad scale. Above it is shown that Merriam Webster's lexicographic staff feels "baloney" is an accepted spelling of the meat product. [http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=5771&dict=CALD Cambridge] and [http://www.bartleby.com/61/79/B0047900.html American Heritage] agree. Oxford seems to disagree, however Oxford is a primarily British dictionary which also documents US usage, so the actual US dictionaries should take precedence here. Note that I am not saying "bologna" would be wrong, but that it would be inconsistent with TBC's usage on the site, and as such would be less appropriate for the knowledge base. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I don't think the outcome of this discussion is very important, but I will note that searching Oscar Meyer's (probably the manufacturer of the most bologna in North America) website for [http://www.kraftfoods.com/oscarmayer/main.aspx?s=recipe&m=recipe%2Fknet_recipe_grid&u1=keyword&u2=baloney baloney] reveals zero occurrences, and searching for [http://www.kraftfoods.com/oscarmayer/main.aspx?s=recipe&m=recipe%2Fknet_recipe_grid&u1=keyword&u2=bologna bologna] reveals several. My vote is to refer to it as "bologna" everywhere but "Baloney Sammich Truck". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Of course that's a branding choice on Oscar Meyer's part (the song wouldn't be so great if they had a way with b-a-l-o-n-e-y!), as "baloney" is the branding choice for [http://www.maloneysbaloney.com/ Maloney's Baloney]. Then there's LightLife's [http://www.solae.com/soyproteinproducts/products/foneybaloney.jsp Foney Baloney], another clear branding choice. One would expect branding usage to be consistent, regardless of whether the word is real or not, or whether the form of the word is more, less, or equally prevalent in American English. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Also, I think it's strange to assume that "baloney" is TBC's preferred spelling based off of "Baloney Sammich Truck"; no one's arguing that "sandwich" should be respelled "sammich" everywhere in the article... :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Again, as I noted above, no one would argue that, because "sammich" is not a lexicographically-accepted word. "Baloney" is, as I think I have proven, as correct a spelling as "bologna" in American English, and to insist on using a spelling TBC did not use in this case seems a little odd to me. Compare to this: what if they did a toon about "pop" and people argued we should call it "soda" because it matches their personal experience? This is NOT a case of them making up a word or spelling out a slang term, and the line of thinking we'd use if they called it "ba-low-knee" or something else like that doesn't apply. It's my position that if they use a real spelling of a real word in canon, we should follow suit when discussing canon. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think it's pretty much a regional spelling difference, like saying 'soda' or 'pop'. Most people, I would assume, have seen both. Since the only documented instance of the word's spelling is 'baloney', I think we should continue that spelling throughout, although add somewhere "baloney (which can also be spelled bologna)".[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 22:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::If only they had misspelled "truck" — then the case would be clear! Since this isn't the case, I think Trelawney's suggestion is the best compromise, although I would change the parenthetical statement to "(more commonly spelled bologna)". And now I plan to spend no more time thinking about this molehill. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm not questioning the veracity of the various dictionaries you noted, nor am I suggesting that ''baloney'' isn't a variant of ''bologna''. What I am saying is that, given their differentiation, ''baloney'' in the sense of the meat product is a ''needless'' variant (for my source and some excellent further reading, I highly recommend ''[[Special:Booksources/0195161912|Garner's Modern American Usage]]''). As for this toon, I don't have a good answer there. It clearly reads "Baloney" on the truck, which is why I have made no attempt to change the references in the transcript. Whether or not TBC were being tongue-in-cheek with the spelling is anyone's guess, but, as much as I dislike it, we should spell it consistently without a better reason not to. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I will say that because bubs spelled Sandwich as Sammich. We should spell it sammich the whole article and i'm off! {{unsigned|Taste of your medicine|03:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)}}

:I'd caution against disrupting the wiki to illustrate a point, as [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point|Wikipedia does in this guideline]]. Please discuss the issue here on the talk page and not through edits and edit summaries. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:08, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:Please review my points above, in particular my 22:03, 3 July 2006 UTC post. With which part of that do you disagree? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

::I'd just like to add that "sammich" is pronounced differently to "sandwich", so it was clear which one to transcribe. When Bubs said "I'm-tryingtosellabaloneysammich!" he clearly says "sammich", and when he says "I drove my baloney sandwich truck down to the beach" he clearly says "sandwich". Yes, I thought of that while I was transcribing - I considered using "sammich" everywhere too, but that wasn't what he was ''saying''. With baloney/bologna, there is no such differentiation - the only difference is in the spelling, and the decision boils down to "we should use the correct term" vs "we should use the term that's still an accepted variant, but would be consistant". I think the latter is the better choice. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:::It was word play! Tell you what. A wiki and fourm consensus seems like what we should do, I say we vote on this to be truly fair. At next Tuesday we take the winner and post that in Weclome Back. '''TOYM''' 15:42 UTC 4 July 2006

::::I think we should just spell it however Los` Brotheren Cowboy Boots spell it. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

==Strong Bad on the Airplane==
Did anybody notice that Strongbad didn't move with the plane? Should we put this under goofs?
:I don't think it was a goof; I think it was an intentional choice on the part TBC. They probably thought it would look better if SB wasn't jiggling the whole time he was talking. Also, cartoons don't necessarily have to obey physics. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

==Topiary==
Who is that man in the topiary garden? It doesn't look anything like the bust of [[Van Buren]]... Rogue mentioned Shakespere in IRC, and it bears a resemblance... what do people think? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:I think it might just be Shakespere.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 16:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::I gotta agree with H*Bad. Shakespeare is who I immediately thought of when I saw that. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 16:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I, too, thought of the Bard of Avon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::One more vote for Shakespeare... that's why come he's so awesome. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:::::I thought it was Bach when I first saw it, and since Bach is referenced in the same scene (Rockin' with Bach), it seems to make sense.[[user:AndrewS|AndrewS]]

== Chaps upgrade to Flash 8? ==

They've said before that they still use Flash 5 (or was it Flash MX, I forget). But this eppisode used alot more blurred objects then usual (in the plane, the blades of grass the camera records and the quick zoom in on h*) and bluring is a new feature added to Flash 8 (Chaps have previously used photoshop to do this). I'm working on importing the flash file into my Flash 8, I'll see if that has any clues. --John

No, it's still made in 7. They just used images I guess. --B14Z3

:Well, I don't know 'bout you, but my copy of Flash 7 can blur stuff. It can also addd accurate shadows, made explosions, and somethin' else I can't remember. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Doin' that thing you do ==
The lyric referring to "our bass player" reminds me of ''[[IMDb:tt0117887|That Thing You Do!]]'', where the bass guitarist had no other name than T(he) B(ass) Player. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Heh, thats true.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 17:02, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Actually TBC are most likely referring to the fact that bass players are generally un-notested

== "The part with the narwhal?" ==

At least, I think SB said Narwhal. You don't get that many of them in midair, but I'd imagine one of the celebrities had brought one along.
:There were no celebrities.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 19:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps a reference to Hitchhiker's Guide? It's far too subtle for me to add it, though someone braver might include it. At least it should die in STUFF.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 19:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::That was a sperm whale, though, not a narwhal. It's probably just cause narwhals are so cool. :)[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:::Not to metion the marked lack of a Bowl of Petunias. [[User:Geshmalderborgen|Geshmalder]] 01:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I dunno, narwhals seem to have a habit of [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/penguincalls coming out of nowhere] in the world of Macromedia Flash (see #9, although it's better to watch them in order). It wouldn't surprise me at all to have one pop up midair in Free Country USA. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 04:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::It should be noted that the "Penguin Calls" flash you just linked to was made by the same person--drewmo--that did the Narwhal Diving game, which the toon appears to reference. Everything's connected. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 05:27, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Homsars hat flying off... ==
...and then coming back, reminds me of the parts from Airplane! when one of the characters tossed their jacket and it came back to him.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, I think the sae thing happened with a hat too. I love that movie.... {{User:Salty/sig}} 18:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Homsar's hat comes back to him all the time. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Maybe its something that the Chapmans took from the movie.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 19:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I just thinks that he threw it around the world, so naturally it came back to him. Homsar would do that kind of thing. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Or it simply flew around behind the viewer. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:29, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:It should be pointed out that in the movie, the hat and jacket came back from the direction he threw them, as if someone tossed them back, not from the opposite direstion, which is what Homsar's hat did.-[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 03:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Did anyone notice... ==
The audio levels in this tune were kinda subpar. I suppose it might be my computer, god knows my speakers are dying, but I've watched every toon on the site and I've never had problems understanding as much dialogue as this one. The Cheat and Strong Mad were playing so loudly I couldn't hear Marzy...
Oh, and Homestar's eyes looked kinda small in his sleepyhead outfit, didn't they?

== Blogs? ==

Did it sound to anyone else like Strong Bad said "ladies' blogs", not "latest blogs"? [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 03:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:I thought so at first too, but on a re-listen it was pretty clearly "latest" to me. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
::I myself heard "latest blogs". {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I heard "latest blogs" but that's probably because I didn't know there was such thing as a vlog until I read this hrwiki article. I guess vlogs would make more sense though, considering Strong bad is (or at least thinks he is) taping the event on video. --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 17:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Vlog or Blog? ==

Is it vlog or blog in the transcript? The real-world refernces say about vlogs... [[User:JudgeDeadd|JudgeDeadd]] 09:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar's Eyes ==

Did anybody else notice that Homestar's eyes were flipped during his "sleepy" mode? - {{User:Super Sonic X/Sig}} 13:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
:It happened in [[Biz Cas Fri 3]], too. [[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 20:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Rival camps ==

Right now we have the following real-world reference:
*Athletic competitions between summer camps occupying the same campground are common in family movies and cartoons.
Could someone add a well-known example to this fact; I can't think of one offhand. Thanks, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:55, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

The movie Heavyweights is a good example of this
-TheDensel

I just added "Heavyweights" (didn't see TheDensel's comment) and "Meatballs" to the fact. [[User:69.217.59.140|69.217.59.140]] 16:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Goofs ==
First of all, weclome? (it's spelled wrong) That's on purpose, right? It doesn't really seem to stand out, and it seems like if it was on purpose, TBC would make it stand out more. Second, strongbad doesn't wiggle with the plane. Should we add these?
:I think both are intentional: the former has [[Unusual_Greetings#Weclome|its own page]], and see [[Talk:Weclome Back#Strong Bad on the Airplane|my comments on the latter]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

==Arm length and head position goof?==
When Strong Bad is turning on his camera in the plane, his arm is abnormally long (stretchy??), also his head is in "front" of his laptop's screen. A few frames later he pulls his head back behind the screen (where we'd normally see it) -- it almost looks as if his head just passed through the laptop. [[User:75.26.2.227|75.26.2.227]] 19:19, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Westerburg/berg ==

"Burg" is the german word for "Castle", while "Berg" is for "Mount(ain)". Both are very common suffixes for german town names as well. Coincidence?

== TBC Vacation ==

I have a feeling that the reason why the site didn't update much is because TBC went on vacation? This cartoon sounds like a way of telling everyone. Oh, and please don't remove this comment again. It ticks me off. [[User:King Cheesia|King Cheesia]]
:I'm sorry to hear that. You see, your comment doesn't really belong here: it doesn't have anything to do with the content of the ''article'' about this toon, which is what this talk page is for. On the other hand, there is a [[Forum:8992|forum thread]] specifically for opinions and chatter about the toon itself. Also, this is kind of already mentioned in the [[Weclome Back#Explanations|Explanations]] section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

==Island trivia==
Do we really know for a fact that "The island is used in this toon because in the DVD commentary on Strong Bad Email island, Matt said they should use the island again"? Sounds like hearsay to me. It could just as easily be based on a whim, or that it's the only previously seen beach for one to drive to. - (Random Nitpicky Person) 23:31, 4 July 2006 (EST)
:Hasn't it been reused since that commentary anyway? Was it in [[disconnected]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Baloney Sammich Truck==
[[Image:Baloneytruck.PNG|thumb|Like magic?]]
Can someone upload a picture of that beach scene? Specifically when Bubs says "You shut your face" to the atari seagul?-[[User:68.113.192.114|68.113.192.114]] 03:53, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:C'n I ask why? I mean, I'll do it an' everything, but I wanna know what it's for. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Already on it. Here you go: {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Narwhal is a reference to AKA Driver... ''how'' exactly? ==

How is Narwhal Diving a reference to AKA Driver? I've looked up the lyrics for said song and there's not a single line in the song mentioning narwhals. In addition, drewmo (the author of Narwhal Diving) has posted in the forum topic for Weclome Back, saying he's never heard AKA Driver. I'd say we have reasonable doubt here... ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 05:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Cool Things

Chupaqueso — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 17:17:55 GMT

Chupaqueso: Didn't think the "communist-led" thing was accurate.

{{toonnav|Big Toon|coolthings|Bug In Mouth Disease|A Folky Tale}}
[[Image:cool tapes.PNG|200px|thumb|"What in Pete Sampras is goin' on here?"]]

Homestar tries to do something constructive. Strong Sad gets a date. Marzipan forms a band with Strong Mad and The Cheat. Bubs decides to stick it to the man.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Field]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' August 15, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 4:00

'''Page Title:''' Sittin' with a kitty...

==Transcript==

''{COOL THINGS appears on Marzipan's carpet. Tilt up to see Homestar and Marzipan sitting on the couch. Marzipan is reading "Peter Threadbare", while Homestar looks bored and uninterested.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{sighs in a 'ho-hum' fashion}'' Sitting on the couch is zero amount of fun when there's not a TV or hang glider in front of it.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, why don't you do something constructive? Like read a book, or write a novella.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Naw, I already did some writing today. And then I read what I wrote.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{enthusiastically}'' Yay! Good for you. Can I see it?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' It's right over there. Check it out!

''{Homestar looks at the left wall. The camera view cuts to left wall to show that "Cool tapes" is roughly written on it.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{off screen}'' Why did you write "Cool tapes" on my wall?!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{as if the answer should be obvious}'' Uh, hello? ''{Cut back to the couch. Marzipan and Homestar both look annoyed.}'' Maybe because I like cool tapes?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, I hope you like "cool" painting, because this has got to go.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{imitating a trombone}'' Mwah, bwah, bwahhhh.

''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand. Bubs is inside, looking depressed. Three cans of "yella paint" are stacked next to him. Homestar walks up to the stand.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say there, old Bubs! I need three cans of yella paint, and one pair of cool shades.

'''BUBS:''' Sorry, customer, I'm closed.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' But you're standing right there. And I see the yella paint right next to you.

'''BUBS:''' But I'm closed! Cutbacks, layoffs, downsizing, you know the drill.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{He looks over his shoulder suspiciously, then looks back at Bubs.}'' Hey, Bubs, can you steal three cans of yella paint for me?

'''BUBS:''' I never pass up a chance to stick it to the man! Here you go! ''{He gives the cans of paint to Homestar.}'' I slipped the cool shades in the can number two.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks, Bubs. Power to the people!

'''BUBS:''' I heard that!

''{Cut to Homestar's silhouette walking away from the stand. Then cut to a close-up of Homestar walking in the field.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I think I'm gonna bust out my new cool shades. ''{He kneels down, opens one of the paint cans, and pulls out a pair of [[Homestar's Shades|cool shades]] that are completely covered in paint. He puts them on.}'' Coool! Everything's yellow and drippy.

''{Strong Sad enters.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Hey, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, hello, Dripping Yellow Madness!

'''STRONG SAD:''' What? I'm Strong Sad! Dripping Yellow Madness moved away after fifth grade!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Look, I'd love to stay and argue that you are in fact Dripping Yellow Madness, but this paint and I ''{He kicks one of the cans of paint}'' have a date with a wall!

'''STRONG SAD:''' I wish I had a date with a wall.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Go for it! Here. ''{He gives the paint cans to Strong Sad}'' You'll need these.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' And, uh, good luck tonight. ''{makes clicking noise}''

''{Homestar walks off. He lands in a small hole. There is a sign next to it that says "death hole" in Strong Bad's handwriting. Homestar screams while falling in and continues to scream after he's stopped falling. He stands in a hole up to his neck.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{screaming; gradually getting quieter}'' Aaaaaaaaaaah... I'm at the bottom of a giant piiiiit...

'''STRONG SAD:''' Homestar, take off those stupid cool shades.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, I should probably return these things.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{walking off screen, singing}'' Oh, getting lucky tonight...

''{Paint runs down the screen and a scene transition. The view shows a close-up of Homestar in front of Bubs' Concession Stand, still wearing the cool shades.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{to Bubs}'' Hey, friend. Lemme get my money back for these cool shades.

''{The view changes to a medium shot to reveal Bubs inside, with a banner on the stand that says "UNDER OLD MANAGEMENT!!"}''

'''BUBS:''' Little bit closer, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh. ''{He walks closer, and walks past Bubs a bit. Bubs moves in front of him.}'' Lemme get my money back for these cool shades.

'''BUBS:''' Sure! You got your receipt?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Um, no. ''{removing his shades, with eyes closed, in a professional voice}'' The sales representative I dealt with gave them to me... free of charge. I believe... his name was Stan.

'''BUBS:''' Stan?! I fired that guy after the fifth grade! Without a receipt, I can only exchange them for something of lesser or much lesser value. And the only thing that qualifies is this! ''{He holds up a bag with four grapes in it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{takes the bag}'' These'll do! These'll do juuust fine!

''{Cut to Homestar's silhouette walking away from the stand. The sun is lower than before, and the sky is a purplish color. Cut to a view of Homestar walking into Marzipan's house, then cut to Marzipan's living room, where Marzipan, Strong Mad and The Cheat are standing in front of the wall with "Cool Tapes" written on it. Strong Mad has an electric bass, The Cheat has a drum kit, and Marzipan has [[Carol]].}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' All right, boys. From the top. ''{Homestar's silhouette appears in the foreground.}'' One, two—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What in— ''{Cut to a close-up of Homestar's face. He looks angry.}'' —Pete Sampras is going on here?!

''{Cut to a close-up of Marzipan's face.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well... you took too long, so Strong Mad, and The Cheat and I formed a band called Cool Tapes. ''{She smiles sheepishly.}''

''{Cut back to a still-angry Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{tone benign, but angry}'' Oh, really?! What kind of... music do you play?!

''{Cut to a wide shot of Marzipan, Strong Mad and The Cheat.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, here, we'll show you. We only have one song so far, and it's not quite finished, but here goes. Ready, boys?

''{Strong Mad, The Cheat and Marzipan all play their instruments.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' One, two, three, four!

''{singing}'' 
''Cool tapes are cool, 'cause they're where it is at,'' 
''Cool tapes are cool, and we like it like that!'' 
''Cool tapes! Cool tapes!'' 
''We like to get it down with the cool, cool tapes,'' 
''We like to get down with'' ...um... ''{the music stops}'' um...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' A bag of four grapes?

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{music starts again, singing}'' A bag of four graaaaapes!

''{An audience cheers. Homestar pops up from the bottom of the screen and shakes the bag. A cassette tape appears in the foreground that reads "THE END." Homestar peeks through one of the holes in the cassette.}''

==Easter Eggs==

*Click on "THE" on the cassette at the end to see a conversation with Strong Bad and The Cheat.
:''{Strong Bad is lying on the couch in his basement, watching TV.}''

:'''KID:''' ''{on TV}'' ...same truck that tried to kill my dad!

:''{The Cheat enters, carrying his drumsticks.}''

:'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, The Cheat. We catch anything in the Death Hole today?

:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

:'''STRONG BAD:''' What? There's no way he could've been in there. He moved away after fifth grade!

*Click on "END" on the cassette at the end to see a T-shirt for [[Cool Tapes]].

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===

*A [[Wikipedia:Novella|novella]] is a work of fiction intermediate in length and complexity between a short story and a novel.

===Trivia===

*The crowd cheering sound effect is taken from the end of [[Everybody to the Limit (Live)]].

===Remarks===

*None of the paint remains on Homestar's face after he removes the cool shades, even though much of it drips.
*Paint appears to drip from Homestar's glasses into his mouth. However, this doesn't seem to bother him.
*The clouds above Free Country look more realistic. In the past they looked like cartoony swirls.
*This is the first time that the outside of Marzipan's house is shown during the day. It looks remarkably similar to [[Homestar's House]].
*This is the first time Marzipan's teeth are shown.
*[[Carol]] looks like a classical guitar, but is apparently an electric-acoustic guitar, capable of producing a distorted tone much like an [[Wikipedia: Electric Guitar|electric guitar]].
*The tape at the end is the same shade of yellow as the yellow highlights that appear around buttons when the Tab key is pressed, slightly obscuring the Easter egg highlight over "The" and completely obscuring the highlight over "End." Since the tape was grey during the song, this may have been intentional.
**This may also be intended to match the shade of yellow on Homestar's shades.

===Goofs===
*The phrase "Cool Tapes" changes position slightly during the toon. To see this better, focus on the bottom of the "p" in "Tapes" and the lighter part of the yellow wall.
*With the cool shades on, the paint drips off the lens over his right eye, but the drops fall in front of the left side of the mouth and the paint disappears half way down his face.
*When Homestar goes to return his cool shades to Bubs, in the second wide shot, Homestar is suddenly standing to the left of where he was in the first wide shot.
*When Homestar is returning the Yella Shades at the concession stand, the paint suddenly stops dripping between the close-up and the wide shot.
*As he walks back from Bubs' with the bag of four grapes, Homestar's walkcycle doesn't quite fit the speed at which he is walking.
*The amp that is behind Marzipan disappears after a couple of cuts.

===Glitches===
*When Marzipan closes her eyes and sings "...a bag of four graaaaapes!", you can see her closed eyes distort for a brief moment. This is because she and Homestar blink every four seconds or so, and with her eyes closed, she attempts to blink over her closed eyes. The effect can also be observed if the toon is paused while her eyes are closed.

===Inside References===
*Strong Sad's patting his belly makes the same dodgeball noise it made in [[modeling]].
**The dodgeball noise was previously heard in [[1 step ahead]].
*Strong Sad mentions that he likes to talk to walls in his [[Strong Sad#Character Video Transcript|character video]].
*The amps that Marzipan plays through are from [[different town]].
*Strong Mad's playing the bass was mentioned in [[guitar]], but this is the first time we've actually seen it.
*The show Strong Bad is watching is the "killer truck" show The Cheat watches in [[privileges]].

===Real-World References===

*The title of the page, "Sittin' with a kitty," is a lyric from the [[Wikipedia:Sonic Youth|Sonic Youth]] song "[http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/sy/song88.html Kool Thing]."
*"Stick it to the Man" and "Power to the People" were common phrases used during student protests in the 1960s and '70s.
*[[Wikipedia:Pete Sampras|Pete Sampras]] is a retired professional tennis player.
*Strong Mad's bass is the same shape as a [[Wikipedia:Hofner|Hofner]] 500/1 [http://www.edromanguitars.com/guitar/hofner/hof_models/hof_basses.htm violin bass], the kind [[Wikipedia:Paul McCartney|Paul McCartney]] plays.
*The amplifiers that they use very closely resemble [[Wikipedia:Marshall Amplifiers|Marshall Amps]].

===Fast Forward===

*[[Strong Sad]]'s line "Oh, getting lucky toniiiight..." is repeated by French Homestar in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
*[[Cool Tapes]] later reappeared in [[Weclome Back]].
*The T-shirt in the easter egg was later sold at the [[Store]].

==External Links==

*[[HR:coolthings.html|watch "Cool Things"]]
*[[HR:coolthings.swf|view the Flash file for "Cool Things"]]
*[[Forum:4531|forum thread re: "Cool Things"]]

[[Category:Toons]]

Talk:2 years

Chupaqueso — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 17:15:04 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* September 2005 */

==Closed STUFF==
Normally this header goes in the Talk page for items that have been Declined after going through the [[STUFF]] process - however, the item that follows contains a conversation worth saving. Thus, even though the item itself was Accepted, the archived discussion will reside here.

===A grill, a doghouse, a trash can, an igloo and the TARDIS===
The spacious interior of The Cheat's house may be a reference to Snoopy's house from the Peanuts comics. It also looked small and ordinary on the outside, but was very large and luxurious on the inside, housing, among other things, his prized Van Gogh. It might also be a reference to Oscar the Grouch's trash can (from Sesame Street), which is also small on the outside, but contains a swimming pool and a number of other facilities within. It could also be a reference to the Nickelodeon show Doug, where his smart dog's (Porkchop) igloo is WAY roomier than it looked. Or even the TARDIS from Dr Who...

*'''Neutral''' I doubt its a reference to any those, but for some reason, I don't want to decline it. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:03, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Weak decline - needs severe rewrite''' This is actually a combination of several entries from that page that should have been combined in a single fact, so I did. The trouble is, there are way too many references noted here. The "roomier than it looks" gag isn't anything new, and severe rewrite on this is needed in order for this to be acceptable. At the very least, the Oscar and TARDIS references need to go. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 07:53, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' Alls I know is that Snoopy's house was huge on the inside. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 09:00, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' It's a reference to this... and a reference to that... and a reference to this other thing... and a reference to something else... make up your mind! I hate "facts" like this. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 10:05, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**King Edward the '''Second'''. It's a common gag. It doesn't reference anything specific. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 20:17, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 20:42, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak Decline''' Nice thinking, but I think it gets used to much to be an actual reference to anything. The gag is also used in Eek! The cat (Sharky's house), and SpongeBob Squarepants (Patrick's house).
*'''Comment''' In the book, "The ultimate unnofficial guide to the mysteries of Harry Potter", they say in the fouth book chapter that it's a reference to the TARDIS in Dr. who when the tent really was a three room flt at the Quidditch World Cup, Or Moody's trunk in "Veritaserum"!
** How would THEY know what TBC were thinking? Was H*R even mentioned?! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 11:53, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** So? In any case, '''Patsy Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 20:52, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Accept''' I was about to decline this one until that last comment... I mean, if Harry Potter can make a Dr. Who reference, why not TBC? And if TBC can make a Dr. Who reference, why can't they make a reference to Peanuts, Oscar the Grouch, Spongebob, Stick Stickley, The Fresh Prince, Rocky III, and whoever else listed above has a roomy house.
=== Strong Sad a Strongbadian ===
According to this email, Strong Sad is (or will be) a resident of [[Strong Badia]].

* '''Decline''' He could simply be there, or visiting. You don't have to belong to a country to visit it, or even to reside in it. (Jim Carrey wasnt amercan until recently but he lived there for years).--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
** Please sign your vote. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
*** Did now--[[User:flashstorm|flashstorm]] 17:15, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' If that was the case, the sign would read "Population: Tire, Bundt Cake Pan, Coach Z, and Strong Sad." --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 11:59, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Stinkoman K|Stinkoman K]]
**Like, totally '''Second''', dude! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 14:46, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' Although I think this fact is wrong, I just want to point out that the population on the tire isn't entire accurate. Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat aren't listed, and we all know they're in there. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:44, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)
===Mormon Missionary===
E. Fullmer's first initial could possibly really stand for "Elder" Fullmer, indicating that he is about to become a Mormon missionary. This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are not allowed to use the Internet during that time.

*'''Accept.''' -- [[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 09:04, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Oh, like: "E. Fullmer's name could be Ed Fullmer, a play on Elmer Fudd" or "E. Fullmer's name could be Evan Fullmer, a disc jockey in Georgia I know, and the brothers chaps are from Georgia." --24.21.86.243 00:19, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
**TBC claim not to have come up with any of the content in the e-mails Strong Bad answers, so the name is probably not a joke. Maybe someone who has experience with the LDS church could comment on whether it's common for an elder to sign in that fashion.--[[User:216.231.36.102|216.231.36.102]] 09:35, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
***Don't suppose this matters much now, since it's verified that he was a Mormon missionary, but for the record no, it's not common at all. I'm a Mormon, and I've served a mission myself, and I've never seen "Elder" abbreviated like that (before). But apparently there's always a first time... --[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 02:19, 26 Feb 2005 (MST)
****In fact, actually, the more I think about this the less sense it makes. Not only is "Elder" in my experience never abbreviated to "E.", but it wouldn't make sense for him to be referring to himself as "Elder Fullmer" in the first place. If he's sending an e-mail saying he's going to be gone for two years and unable to access the web, that means he hasn't started his mission yet, and he wouldn't be calling himself "Elder Fullmer" yet. Okay, I understand someone says this guy is a friend of his coworker and he was indeed a soon-to-be Mormon missionary, fine, but...did his first name, by any chance, start with E? Because that would still make a lot more sense than the "E." standing for Elder when Elder isn't abbreviated that way and he wouldn't be calling himself Elder yet anyway. In fact, the personal testimonial notwithstanding, this rings false for me on enough levels I'm going to have to vote '''Decline''' on this one unless some more direct evidence arises. -[[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 16:07, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. [[User:gwr2004|gwr2004]] 11:15, 8 Jan 2005 (MST)
*Didn't someone say they actually knew E. Fullmer, who is indeed a mormon missionary? Wait... [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=7029&highlight=#7029 yes]. Of course, that may not necessarily mean anything, but I still say '''accept''' either way. - [[User:SailorMarzipan|SailorHippyGirl]]
:I'm going to have to '''Accept'''. Because it's true! And 216.231.36.102, it's not terribly common for missionaries to sign things that way, but I think he did it so people could get the joke without being so blatant as to write out Elder. I do know that H*R is saturatingly popular at both USU and BYU, so there would be plenty of people to get the joke. --[[User:racerx is alive|racerx_is_alive]] 13:16, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. Click on the link above - this is a verified fact. [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 20:23, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
**'''Accept''' -- I didn't know that. Definately an interesting tidbit and should be accepted as long as there is enough supporting evidence to merit the assumption. [[User:Kamek|Kamek]] 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
*'''Revise''' I think this should be reworded, because it has been verified. Something like "E. Fullmer is a Mormon missionary, which explains why he will be absent for the next two years," or something. [[User:Gydea|Gydea]]
**'''Decline the above revise, accept the original''' The original is a plausible enough explanation, whether it's true or not (and a lot of fun facts are based on more sketchy information). However, I would decline the above revise because someone posting on a message board about 'the best friend of my coworker' is not the same as verification. I should know... my brother's boss's former roommate was the guy whose stomach exploded because he mixed Pop Rocks and Coke. --[[User:211.252.38.203|211.252.38.203]] 00:29, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Comment''' I am an LDSer and when my dad signed his name on his mission in letters to home he signed it E. (his last name) because the E meant Elder. My cousin who goes to BYU and is also a Mormon come home from his mission says that Homestar Runner is very popular there because a lot more flash movies these days have swear words in them. Since Homestar Runner is pretty clean-humored, it's very well-known at Mormon-based schools like BYU, so it's possible that Mr. Fullmer went there and had to go on his mission. Anyhoo, I'm rambling. Signing off. --24.161.164.120

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Pop: Incomplete ===
{{stufffact|Even though [[Cinderblock]] speaks and writes, he is not listed as part of the population of [[Strong Badia]].}}
{{stuffverdict|16:13, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)|01:14, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined, 10–0. A proposed revision was overwhelmingly declined|12|3|2 years}}

== September 2005 ==

It's been 2 years since this e-mail, and none of this occured yet. Except possibly Strong Sad getting whinier.
:Well, I didn't really expect it to, yeah? It was all... speculation. Unless this upcoming toon mentioned on the front page will suddenly bring about all these changes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Actually, I've noticed Strong Sad getting '''less''' whinier. It started in Experimental Film with "Why don't you shut up, Homestar?" and it's built up. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 02:48, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Ah, imagine a complete reversal-of-expectations, in which Strong Bad's predictions will not only be false but just the opposite of what he thought... The tire deflates, the stop sign and cinderblock elope, Strong Sad stands up for himself, and Strong Bad paints the mural himself. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::And Coach Z doesn't take a leak. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 16:55, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Strong Sad is probably the same amount of whiny, give or take a bit. But he's definately not as whiny as Strong Bad predicted him to be. As evidenced in "Narrator," he still likes food. Even if it is grody ethnic food. Coach Z, has however spent some time behind the fence (near the end of the Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon, for instance), and he may or may not have taken a leak there (it certainly wouldn't be something I'd put past him). However, he is far from a perminent resident of Strong Badia. Strong Bad did dig a hole (the death hole from Cool Things) but it is not in Strong Badia, nor is it specified as world class. And if the "class" of a hole is based on depth, the death hole probably doesn't qualify. --{{User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso}}

== Gender ==

I removed this Fun Fact:

*It is now revealed the [[Cinderblock]] is male, and the [[Stop Sign]] is female.

The only evidence I can find to support this is that the letter is read in a vaguely male voice. But it's not necessarily a male voice. Secondly, how does deciding this either way definitively determine the gender of the Stop Sign these days? I think this is a huge leap not supported by fact, but I'm open to hear other points of view. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:38, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok, on [[Stop Sign]] I found that someone thinks "I also have some good news for you single ladies out there. The cinder block is going to break up with the sign." means that Cinderblock must be male. But it could equally mean Stoppy is male. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:41, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

==What is "endiment"?==

What does endiment mean?
:It doesn't appear to have a definition at dictionary.com... It's probably made up. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

2 years

Chupaqueso — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 16:53:37 GMT

Chupaqueso: Thought this was strange, didn't see someone already bring it up, so added it.

{{sbenav|85|kids' book|no loafing}}
[[Image:Strongbadia_in_2_years.png|thumb|"I don't like food anymore!"]]

E. Fullmer asks Strong Bad what Strong Badia will be like in approximately 2 years, and we get a look at his predictions for the future.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]], [[Strong Bad's Laundry Room]], [[The King of Town's Grill]]

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' September 22, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 2:23

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{very quickly}'' Hassaro, heesaro. Hassaro, heesaro!

''{Reading email}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Strong Bad, 
I am going on a long trip and won't be 
able to check out "Homestar Runner's 
Website" for a long time. What do you 
think the greatest advancement for 
Strong Badia will be in the next 2 
years? 
 
Your Main Man, 
E. Fullmer</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "Strong Bad" stressing "Strong" as if it were "Dear," says "Homestar has a website?" after reading "Homestar Runner's Website for a long time" and says "Oh..." before reading the signature}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Umm, Endiment...? ''{typing}'' Hang on Endiment. Just for the record, my main man is, and has been since 1987, Van Mundegaarde. And don't you forget it.

''{not typing, a little picture of Strong Bad with a note from Strong Bad to Van comes down}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, Van, the times we shared. ''{typing}'' Well, as you know, Endy, Strong Badia is on the cutting edge of the future. I can easily predict that the population will have tripled in two years.

''{Cut to Strong Badia}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So by then it will be population: tire and...bundt cake pan.

''{A bundt cake pan appears out of nowhere. The sign changes its population list accordingly.}''

'''STRONG BAD:'''...and Coach Z.

''{Coach Z appears behind the fence, facing away from the camera. The sign changes its population list accordingly again.}''

'''COACH Z:''' I'm takin' a leak!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' I also have some good news for you single ladies out there. The cinder block is going to break up with the sign.

''{The stopsign moves away from the cinder block, and a letter from the cinder block to the sign appears on-screen.}''

'''CINDER BLOCK:''' Dear Stop Sign, you are a stop sign and I am a cinder block.

''{The letter disappears}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Ooh! And we will also have developed a world-class hole.

''{A hole appears in the ground}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And by then, hopefully The Cheat will be finished with the mural I commissioned him to paint on the fence...

''{A mural of the words "FIReWORKS or die" appears on the fence}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...like a freakin' year ago. Slowbie. Oh yeah, and the tire will have definitely won the title.

''(A belt appears on the tire and an invisible crowd cheers.)''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And finally, Strong Sad will have actually succeeded in becoming more whiny.

''{Strong Sad appears out of nowhere}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{pouty voice}'' I don't like food anymore!

''{Cut back to the Compy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Augh! So annoying. Oh, that reminds me. I should probably go let Strong Sad outta the dryer. He's been in there since breakfast.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down. After about 15 seconds, Strong Bad gets up. Cut to the dryer. Strong Bad opens it, and discovers a dizzy, fluffy The Cheat.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What the—? The Cheat?! Where the crap did I leave Strong Sad?

''{Cut to The King of Town's grill. It's closed, but we can hear Strong Sad's voice from within.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh, hello? Can anybody hear me? The Cheat has a really nice place in here. And none of his shirts fit me.

''{Cut back to the Compy, with Strong Bad sitting at it as before.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*You can click on the words "Homestar Runner's Website" to see a quick peek at [[Homestar's Website|Homestar's crappy website]].
*After you wait and see what happened to Strong Sad, you can click on the reflection of Strong Bad's Blue Diamond to see the advertisement for the "Rematch" between Strong Mad and the [[Tire]].
:''{Cut to black screen.}''
:'''VOICEOVER:''' Revenge.
:''{Everything he says echoes ridiculously. The word "REVENGE" appears in red on the screen and Strong Mad is seen on the left, half-lit. He then disappears.}''
:'''VOICEOVER:'''Vengeance.
:''{The word "VENGEANCE" is now seen on the screen and the Tire, as with Strong Mad, appears half-lit on the right. It also disappears.}''
:'''VOICEOVER:''' Vengeful.
:''{The word "VENGEFUL" appears and Strong Mad appears as before, more briefly this time.}''
:'''VOICEOVER:''' Revengeanceful.
:''{The word "REVENGEANCEFUL" appears and the Tire reappears and disappears as before. Then Strong Mad is seen straight on, coming closer to the screen.}''
:'''VOICEOVER:''' This Sunday, watch as Strong Mad attempts to reclaim the title—
:''{Title belts appear around Strong Mad's eyes, and his face starts fading into red}''
:'''VOICEOVER:''' —from Strong Badia heavyweight champion,—
:''{The whole screen turns red and the Tire appears on the screen, growing toward us.}''
:'''VOICEOVER:''' —the Tire. Tire Madness.
:''{A red Tire Madness logo appears, flashes, and explodes onto the screen, which briefly turns yellow, then reverts to red.}''
:'''VOICEOVER:''' Only on pay per view.
:''{The words "ONLY ON PAY PER VIEW!!!" flash in yellow at the bottom.}''

==Fun Facts==

===Trivia===

*The note on the photograph presumably given to Van Mundegaarde reads:
<blockquote>To My Main Man 
Van Mundegaarde, 
Keep Rocking it 1987-style. 
-Strong 
Bad</blockquote>

*The full text of the letter the Cinderblock writes is:
<blockquote>Dear Stopsign, 
You are a stopsign and I am a 
cinderblock. Therefore I think 
we should break up. I hope we 
can still be's friends. 
-Cinderblock</blockquote>

*It's been confirmed that E. Fullmer's first initial stands for "Elder" Fullmer (not Endiment), indicating that he is about to become a missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (sometimes called the Mormon church). This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are usually not allowed to use the Internet during that time.
*The Homestar portrait on his website is done using the [[Wikipedia:Repoussé and chasing|repoussé]] technique.
*The "Tire Madness" Logo is similar to the logo used by the now-defunct WCW organization.

===Remarks===

*The [[No Loafing Sign|No Loafing]] sign can be seen when Strong Bad finds The Cheat in the dryer, though the sign is known to be located in the Computer Room.
*This email was released in September 2003, so the changes Strong Bad mentions should have come into fruition by now. To date, none of these predictions has panned out.
*Strong Bad doesn't look much different in [[1987]].
*The fact that Strong Sad says "The Cheat really has a nice place in here" while he is in [[The King of Town's Grill|The King of Town's grill]] can confirm that The King's grill is much more spacious on the inside than it looks.
*It's strange that "FIReWORKS" has a lowercase e in it, but un uppercase i. This is opposite to the normal.

===Inside References===

*The music that plays when the Cinderblock's note is displayed is the same music that played in [[A Decemberween Pageant]] when Marzipan was talking to The Cheat (right after Strong Bad had said, "There's a squid.") and, later, in [[pom pom]] when Strong Bad is writing the letter to [[Pom Pom]]'s parents.
*The Cinderblock's note marks the first instance of [[be's]].
*Strong Sad's being in [[The King of Town's Grill]] is a reference to [[Where's The Cheat?]].

===Fast Forward===
*The Cheat ends up in the dryer again in [[lady fan]].

== DVD Version ==
*The Homestar's website Easter egg is actually part of the email. When you switch the angle using the angle button on your DVD remote, it pops up like a regular webpage window and sticks around for ten or fifteen seconds.
*The Cheat in the Dryer and Strong Sad in the Grill Easter eggs have now been separated. You can now find Strong Sad by selecting a hidden Strong Bad icon in the lower-left corner of the Compy 386 screen.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail85.html|watch "2 years"]]
*[[HR:sbemail85.swf|view the Flash file for "2 years"]]
*[[HR:mywedpage.html|view Homestar Runner's "website"]]
*[[HR:sbglossy.swf|view the Flash file for Strong Bad's photograph.]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]]

2 years

Chupaqueso — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 16:48:42 GMT

Chupaqueso: Thought it would be a nice little addition.

{{sbenav|85|kids' book|no loafing}}
[[Image:Strongbadia_in_2_years.png|thumb|"I don't like food anymore!"]]

E. Fullmer asks Strong Bad what Strong Badia will be like in approximately 2 years, and we get a look at his predictions for the future.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]], [[Strong Bad's Laundry Room]], [[The King of Town's Grill]]

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' September 22, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 2:23

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{very quickly}'' Hassaro, heesaro. Hassaro, heesaro!

''{Reading email}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Strong Bad, 
I am going on a long trip and won't be 
able to check out "Homestar Runner's 
Website" for a long time. What do you 
think the greatest advancement for 
Strong Badia will be in the next 2 
years? 
 
Your Main Man, 
E. Fullmer</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "Strong Bad" stressing "Strong" as if it were "Dear," says "Homestar has a website?" after reading "Homestar Runner's Website for a long time" and says "Oh..." before reading the signature}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Umm, Endiment...? ''{typing}'' Hang on Endiment. Just for the record, my main man is, and has been since 1987, Van Mundegaarde. And don't you forget it.

''{not typing, a little picture of Strong Bad with a note from Strong Bad to Van comes down}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, Van, the times we shared. ''{typing}'' Well, as you know, Endy, Strong Badia is on the cutting edge of the future. I can easily predict that the population will have tripled in two years.

''{Cut to Strong Badia}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So by then it will be population: tire and...bundt cake pan.

''{A bundt cake pan appears out of nowhere. The sign changes its population list accordingly.}''

'''STRONG BAD:'''...and Coach Z.

''{Coach Z appears behind the fence, facing away from the camera. The sign changes its population list accordingly again.}''

'''COACH Z:''' I'm takin' a leak!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' I also have some good news for you single ladies out there. The cinder block is going to break up with the sign.

''{The stopsign moves away from the cinder block, and a letter from the cinder block to the sign appears on-screen.}''

'''CINDER BLOCK:''' Dear Stop Sign, you are a stop sign and I am a cinder block.

''{The letter disappears}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Ooh! And we will also have developed a world-class hole.

''{A hole appears in the ground}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' And by then, hopefully The Cheat will be finished with the mural I commissioned him to paint on the fence...

''{A mural of the words "FIReWORKS or die" appears on the fence}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' ...like a freakin' year ago. Slowbie. Oh yeah, and the tire will have definitely won the title.

''(A belt appears on the tire and an invisible crowd cheers.)''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And finally, Strong Sad will have actually succeeded in becoming more whiny.

''{Strong Sad appears out of nowhere}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{pouty voice}'' I don't like food anymore!

''{Cut back to the Compy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Augh! So annoying. Oh, that reminds me. I should probably go let Strong Sad outta the dryer. He's been in there since breakfast.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down. After about 15 seconds, Strong Bad gets up. Cut to the dryer. Strong Bad opens it, and discovers a dizzy, fluffy The Cheat.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What the—? The Cheat?! Where the crap did I leave Strong Sad?

''{Cut to The King of Town's grill. It's closed, but we can hear Strong Sad's voice from within.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh, hello? Can anybody hear me? The Cheat has a really nice place in here. And none of his shirts fit me.

''{Cut back to the Compy, with Strong Bad sitting at it as before.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*You can click on the words "Homestar Runner's Website" to see a quick peek at [[Homestar's Website|Homestar's crappy website]].
*After you wait and see what happened to Strong Sad, you can click on the reflection of Strong Bad's Blue Diamond to see the advertisement for the "Rematch" between Strong Mad and the [[Tire]].
:''{Cut to black screen.}''
:'''VOICEOVER:''' Revenge.
:''{Everything he says echoes ridiculously. The word "REVENGE" appears in red on the screen and Strong Mad is seen on the left, half-lit. He then disappears.}''
:'''VOICEOVER:'''Vengeance.
:''{The word "VENGEANCE" is now seen on the screen and the Tire, as with Strong Mad, appears half-lit on the right. It also disappears.}''
:'''VOICEOVER:''' Vengeful.
:''{The word "VENGEFUL" appears and Strong Mad appears as before, more briefly this time.}''
:'''VOICEOVER:''' Revengeanceful.
:''{The word "REVENGEANCEFUL" appears and the Tire reappears and disappears as before. Then Strong Mad is seen straight on, coming closer to the screen.}''
:'''VOICEOVER:''' This Sunday, watch as Strong Mad attempts to reclaim the title—
:''{Title belts appear around Strong Mad's eyes, and his face starts fading into red}''
:'''VOICEOVER:''' —from Strong Badia heavyweight champion,—
:''{The whole screen turns red and the Tire appears on the screen, growing toward us.}''
:'''VOICEOVER:''' —the Tire. Tire Madness.
:''{A red Tire Madness logo appears, flashes, and explodes onto the screen, which briefly turns yellow, then reverts to red.}''
:'''VOICEOVER:''' Only on pay per view.
:''{The words "ONLY ON PAY PER VIEW!!!" flash in yellow at the bottom.}''

==Fun Facts==

===Trivia===

*The note on the photograph presumably given to Van Mundegaarde reads:
<blockquote>To My Main Man 
Van Mundegaarde, 
Keep Rocking it 1987-style. 
-Strong 
Bad</blockquote>

*The full text of the letter the Cinderblock writes is:
<blockquote>Dear Stopsign, 
You are a stopsign and I am a 
cinderblock. Therefore I think 
we should break up. I hope we 
can still be's friends. 
-Cinderblock</blockquote>

*It's been confirmed that E. Fullmer's first initial stands for "Elder" Fullmer (not Endiment), indicating that he is about to become a missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (sometimes called the Mormon church). This could explain why he will be going on a two-year trip and will not be able to check the website for two years, as that is how long Mormon missionaries serve, and they are usually not allowed to use the Internet during that time.
*The Homestar portrait on his website is done using the [[Wikipedia:Repoussé and chasing|repoussé]] technique.
*The "Tire Madness" Logo is similar to the logo used by the now-defunct WCW organization.

===Remarks===

*The [[No Loafing Sign|No Loafing]] sign can be seen when Strong Bad finds The Cheat in the dryer, though the sign is known to be located in the Computer Room.
*This email was released in September 2003, so the changes Strong Bad mentions should have come into fruition by now. To date, none of these predictions has panned out.
*Strong Bad doesn't look much different in [[1987]].
*The fact that Strong Sad says "The Cheat really has a nice place in here" while he is in [[The King of Town's Grill|The King of Town's grill]] can confirm that The King's grill is much more spacious on the inside than it looks.

===Inside References===

*The music that plays when the Cinderblock's note is displayed is the same music that played in [[A Decemberween Pageant]] when Marzipan was talking to The Cheat (right after Strong Bad had said, "There's a squid.") and, later, in [[pom pom]] when Strong Bad is writing the letter to [[Pom Pom]]'s parents.
*The Cinderblock's note marks the first instance of [[be's]].
*Strong Sad's being in [[The King of Town's Grill]] is a reference to [[Where's The Cheat?]].

===Fast Forward===
*The Cheat ends up in the dryer again in [[lady fan]].

== DVD Version ==
*The Homestar's website Easter egg is actually part of the email. When you switch the angle using the angle button on your DVD remote, it pops up like a regular webpage window and sticks around for ten or fifteen seconds.
*The Cheat in the Dryer and Strong Sad in the Grill Easter eggs have now been separated. You can now find Strong Sad by selecting a hidden Strong Bad icon in the lower-left corner of the Compy 386 screen.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail85.html|watch "2 years"]]
*[[HR:sbemail85.swf|view the Flash file for "2 years"]]
*[[HR:mywedpage.html|view Homestar Runner's "website"]]
*[[HR:sbglossy.swf|view the Flash file for Strong Bad's photograph.]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]]

Talk:Weclome Back

Chupaqueso — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 13:31:45 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* Blogs? */

==Bologna==
We can leave the Baloney in Baloney Sammich Truck but otherwise it should be bologna
:Both are accepted spellings... [http://m-w.com/dictionary/baloney Merriam-Webster] lists Baloney as a variant of Bologna. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Those words have undergone differentiation. ''Baloney'' is properly only "nonsense", and the meat product is ''bologna''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::It's dot com, I don't think that's a true statement. M-W shows it as a variant of "bologna"; if you have a dictionary citation where it's noted that "baloney" doesn't mean "bologna" anymore, then provide it. Especially as they use the "baloney" spelling in the toon, and barring absence of evidence that it cannot adequately mean the meat, we should use the "baloney" spelling throughout. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::: Touché. Sandwich was also misspelled as "sammich" so the explicit use of "baloney' was probably just word play.
:::::"Sammich" is not a documented and accepted spelling of "sandwich", however. "Baloney" is. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::: I have personally never seen the sausage meat being spelled as anything except "bologna" in any ''serious'' context. Bubs' truck is hardly what I'd call serious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Because simple personal experience is limited, we have lexicographers whose job it is to determine actual usage on the broad scale. Above it is shown that Merriam Webster's lexicographic staff feels "baloney" is an accepted spelling of the meat product. [http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=5771&dict=CALD Cambridge] and [http://www.bartleby.com/61/79/B0047900.html American Heritage] agree. Oxford seems to disagree, however Oxford is a primarily British dictionary which also documents US usage, so the actual US dictionaries should take precedence here. Note that I am not saying "bologna" would be wrong, but that it would be inconsistent with TBC's usage on the site, and as such would be less appropriate for the knowledge base. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I don't think the outcome of this discussion is very important, but I will note that searching Oscar Meyer's (probably the manufacturer of the most bologna in North America) website for [http://www.kraftfoods.com/oscarmayer/main.aspx?s=recipe&m=recipe%2Fknet_recipe_grid&u1=keyword&u2=baloney baloney] reveals zero occurrences, and searching for [http://www.kraftfoods.com/oscarmayer/main.aspx?s=recipe&m=recipe%2Fknet_recipe_grid&u1=keyword&u2=bologna bologna] reveals several. My vote is to refer to it as "bologna" everywhere but "Baloney Sammich Truck". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Of course that's a branding choice on Oscar Meyer's part (the song wouldn't be so great if they had a way with b-a-l-o-n-e-y!), as "baloney" is the branding choice for [http://www.maloneysbaloney.com/ Maloney's Baloney]. Then there's LightLife's [http://www.solae.com/soyproteinproducts/products/foneybaloney.jsp Foney Baloney], another clear branding choice. One would expect branding usage to be consistent, regardless of whether the word is real or not, or whether the form of the word is more, less, or equally prevalent in American English. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Also, I think it's strange to assume that "baloney" is TBC's preferred spelling based off of "Baloney Sammich Truck"; no one's arguing that "sandwich" should be respelled "sammich" everywhere in the article... :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Again, as I noted above, no one would argue that, because "sammich" is not a lexicographically-accepted word. "Baloney" is, as I think I have proven, as correct a spelling as "bologna" in American English, and to insist on using a spelling TBC did not use in this case seems a little odd to me. Compare to this: what if they did a toon about "pop" and people argued we should call it "soda" because it matches their personal experience? This is NOT a case of them making up a word or spelling out a slang term, and the line of thinking we'd use if they called it "ba-low-knee" or something else like that doesn't apply. It's my position that if they use a real spelling of a real word in canon, we should follow suit when discussing canon. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think it's pretty much a regional spelling difference, like saying 'soda' or 'pop'. Most people, I would assume, have seen both. Since the only documented instance of the word's spelling is 'baloney', I think we should continue that spelling throughout, although add somewhere "baloney (which can also be spelled bologna)".[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 22:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::If only they had misspelled "truck" — then the case would be clear! Since this isn't the case, I think Trelawney's suggestion is the best compromise, although I would change the parenthetical statement to "(more commonly spelled bologna)". And now I plan to spend no more time thinking about this molehill. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm not questioning the veracity of the various dictionaries you noted, nor am I suggesting that ''baloney'' isn't a variant of ''bologna''. What I am saying is that, given their differentiation, ''baloney'' in the sense of the meat product is a ''needless'' variant (for my source and some excellent further reading, I highly recommend ''[[Special:Booksources/0195161912|Garner's Modern American Usage]]''). As for this toon, I don't have a good answer there. It clearly reads "Baloney" on the truck, which is why I have made no attempt to change the references in the transcript. Whether or not TBC were being tongue-in-cheek with the spelling is anyone's guess, but, as much as I dislike it, we should spell it consistently without a better reason not to. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I will say that because bubs spelled Sandwich as Sammich. We should spell it sammich the whole article and i'm off! {{unsigned|Taste of your medicine|03:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)}}

:I'd caution against disrupting the wiki to illustrate a point, as [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point|Wikipedia does in this guideline]]. Please discuss the issue here on the talk page and not through edits and edit summaries. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:08, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:Please review my points above, in particular my 22:03, 3 July 2006 UTC post. With which part of that do you disagree? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

::I'd just like to add that "sammich" is pronounced differently to "sandwich", so it was clear which one to transcribe. When Bubs said "I'm-tryingtosellabaloneysammich!" he clearly says "sammich", and when he says "I drove my baloney sandwich truck down to the beach" he clearly says "sandwich". Yes, I thought of that while I was transcribing - I considered using "sammich" everywhere too, but that wasn't what he was ''saying''. With baloney/bologna, there is no such differentiation - the only difference is in the spelling, and the decision boils down to "we should use the correct term" vs "we should use the term that's still an accepted variant, but would be consistant". I think the latter is the better choice. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:::It was word play! Tell you what. A wiki and fourm consensus seems like what we should do, I say we vote on this to be truly fair. At next Tuesday we take the winner and post that in Weclome Back. '''TOYM''' 15:42 UTC 4 July 2006

::::I think we should just spell it however Los` Brotheren Cowboy Boots spell it. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

==Strong Bad on the Airplane==
Did anybody notice that Strongbad didn't move with the plane? Should we put this under goofs?
:I don't think it was a goof; I think it was an intentional choice on the part TBC. They probably thought it would look better if SB wasn't jiggling the whole time he was talking. Also, cartoons don't necessarily have to obey physics. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

==Topiary==
Who is that man in the topiary garden? It doesn't look anything like the bust of [[Van Buren]]... Rogue mentioned Shakespere in IRC, and it bears a resemblance... what do people think? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:I think it might just be Shakespere.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 16:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::I gotta agree with H*Bad. Shakespeare is who I immediately thought of when I saw that. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 16:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I, too, thought of the Bard of Avon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::One more vote for Shakespeare... that's why come he's so awesome. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:::::I thought it was Bach when I first saw it, and since Bach is referenced in the same scene (Rockin' with Bach), it seems to make sense.[[user:AndrewS|AndrewS]]

== Chaps upgrade to Flash 8? ==

They've said before that they still use Flash 5 (or was it Flash MX, I forget). But this eppisode used alot more blurred objects then usual (in the plane, the blades of grass the camera records and the quick zoom in on h*) and bluring is a new feature added to Flash 8 (Chaps have previously used photoshop to do this). I'm working on importing the flash file into my Flash 8, I'll see if that has any clues. --John

No, it's still made in 7. They just used images I guess. --B14Z3

:Well, I don't know 'bout you, but my copy of Flash 7 can blur stuff. It can also addd accurate shadows, made explosions, and somethin' else I can't remember. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Doin' that thing you do ==
The lyric referring to "our bass player" reminds me of ''[[IMDb:tt0117887|That Thing You Do!]]'', where the bass guitarist had no other name than T(he) B(ass) Player. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Heh, thats true.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 17:02, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Actually TBC are most likely referring to the fact that bass players are generally un-notested

== "The part with the narwhal?" ==

At least, I think SB said Narwhal. You don't get that many of them in midair, but I'd imagine one of the celebrities had brought one along.
:There were no celebrities.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 19:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps a reference to Hitchhiker's Guide? It's far too subtle for me to add it, though someone braver might include it. At least it should die in STUFF.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 19:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::That was a sperm whale, though, not a narwhal. It's probably just cause narwhals are so cool. :)[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:::Not to metion the marked lack of a Bowl of Petunias. [[User:Geshmalderborgen|Geshmalder]] 01:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I dunno, narwhals seem to have a habit of [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/penguincalls coming out of nowhere] in the world of Macromedia Flash (see #9, although it's better to watch them in order). It wouldn't surprise me at all to have one pop up midair in Free Country USA. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 04:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::It should be noted that the "Penguin Calls" flash you just linked to was made by the same person--drewmo--that did the Narwhal Diving game, which the toon appears to reference. Everything's connected. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 05:27, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Homsars hat flying off... ==
...and then coming back, reminds me of the parts from Airplane! when one of the characters tossed their jacket and it came back to him.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, I think the sae thing happened with a hat too. I love that movie.... {{User:Salty/sig}} 18:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Homsar's hat comes back to him all the time. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Maybe its something that the Chapmans took from the movie.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 19:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I just thinks that he threw it around the world, so naturally it came back to him. Homsar would do that kind of thing. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Or it simply flew around behind the viewer. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:29, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:It should be pointed out that in the movie, the hat and jacket came back from the direction he threw them, as if someone tossed them back, not from the opposite direstion, which is what Homsar's hat did.-[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 03:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Did anyone notice... ==
The audio levels in this tune were kinda subpar. I suppose it might be my computer, god knows my speakers are dying, but I've watched every toon on the site and I've never had problems understanding as much dialogue as this one. The Cheat and Strong Mad were playing so loudly I couldn't hear Marzy...
Oh, and Homestar's eyes looked kinda small in his sleepyhead outfit, didn't they?

== Blogs? ==

Did it sound to anyone else like Strong Bad said "ladies' blogs", not "latest blogs"? [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 03:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:I thought so at first too, but on a re-listen it was pretty clearly "latest" to me. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
::I myself heard "latest blogs". {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I heard "latest blogs" but that's probably because I didn't know there was such thing as a vlog until I read this hrwiki article. I guess vlogs would make more sense though, considering Strong bad is (or at least thinks he is) taping the event on video. --{{User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso}}

== Vlog or Blog? ==

Is it vlog or blog in the transcript? The real-world refernces say about vlogs... [[User:JudgeDeadd|JudgeDeadd]] 09:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar's Eyes ==

Did anybody else notice that Homestar's eyes were flipped during his "sleepy" mode? - {{User:Super Sonic X/Sig}} 13:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
:It happened in [[Biz Cas Fri 3]], too. [[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 20:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Rival camps ==

Right now we have the following real-world reference:
*Athletic competitions between summer camps occupying the same campground are common in family movies and cartoons.
Could someone add a well-known example to this fact; I can't think of one offhand. Thanks, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:55, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

The movie Heavyweights is a good example of this
-TheDensel

I just added "Heavyweights" (didn't see TheDensel's comment) and "Meatballs" to the fact. [[User:69.217.59.140|69.217.59.140]] 16:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Goofs ==
First of all, weclome? (it's spelled wrong) That's on purpose, right? It doesn't really seem to stand out, and it seems like if it was on purpose, TBC would make it stand out more. Second, strongbad doesn't wiggle with the plane. Should we add these?
:I think both are intentional: the former has [[Unusual_Greetings#Weclome|its own page]], and see [[Talk:Weclome Back#Strong Bad on the Airplane|my comments on the latter]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

==Arm length and head position goof?==
When Strong Bad is turning on his camera in the plane, his arm is abnormally long (stretchy??), also his head is in "front" of his laptop's screen. A few frames later he pulls his head back behind the screen (where we'd normally see it) -- it almost looks as if his head just passed through the laptop. [[User:75.26.2.227|75.26.2.227]] 19:19, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Westerburg/berg ==

"Burg" is the german word for "Castle", while "Berg" is for "Mount(ain)". Both are very common suffixes for german town names as well. Coincidence?

== TBC Vacation ==

I have a feeling that the reason why the site didn't update much is because TBC went on vacation? This cartoon sounds like a way of telling everyone. Oh, and please don't remove this comment again. It ticks me off. [[User:King Cheesia|King Cheesia]]
:I'm sorry to hear that. You see, your comment doesn't really belong here: it doesn't have anything to do with the content of the ''article'' about this toon, which is what this talk page is for. On the other hand, there is a [[Forum:8992|forum thread]] specifically for opinions and chatter about the toon itself. Also, this is kind of already mentioned in the [[Weclome Back#Explanations|Explanations]] section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

==Island trivia==
Do we really know for a fact that "The island is used in this toon because in the DVD commentary on Strong Bad Email island, Matt said they should use the island again"? Sounds like hearsay to me. It could just as easily be based on a whim, or that it's the only previously seen beach for one to drive to. - (Random Nitpicky Person) 23:31, 4 July 2006 (EST)
:Hasn't it been reused since that commentary anyway? Was it in [[disconnected]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Baloney Sammich Truck==
Can someone upload a picture of that beach scene? Specifically when Bubs says "You shut your face" to the atari seagul?-[[User:68.113.192.114|68.113.192.114]] 03:53, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:C'n I ask why? I mean, I'll do it an' everything, but I wanna know what it's for. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Already on it. Here you go: [[Image:Baloneytruck.PNG|thumb|Like magic?]] {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Narwhal is a reference to AKA Driver... ''how'' exactly? ==

How is Narwhal Diving a reference to AKA Driver? I've looked up the lyrics for said song and there's not a single line in the song mentioning narwhals. In addition, drewmo (the author of Narwhal Diving) has posted in the forum topic for Weclome Back, saying he's never heard AKA Driver. I'd say we have reasonable doubt here... ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 05:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Teen Girl Squad

Chupaqueso — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:26:17 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* Almost Teen Girl Squads */

{{featuredarticle}}

Ok, let's all start to....

:Do you think we should link this page to the [[404'd]] page somehow? I think it belongs somewhere on this page, but I'm not quite sure where...
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<=>Thunderbird<=>]]</tt>'']] 23:51, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Done. Though it could probably use some work... →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

I like the movement of the pictures too. Especially since most pages are like that. (Why didn't I think of that...?)
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<=>Thunderbird<=>]]</tt>'']] 20:54, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Because I'm smarter than you. :) →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::True, true... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<=>Thunderbird<=>]]</tt>'']] 20:57, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Almost Teen Girl Squads==

There are already three of them under the 'Fun Facts', we have a section for Strong Bad Email, so why not Teen Girl Squad? ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<=>Thunderbird<=>]]</tt>'' 15:29, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:I just added in the "Sample" under issues and left the 404 page and virus appearance as is. IMO, "Sample" is more of a partial-issue and and virus is just a reference (it's only one line...). Having Sample as a "half-issue" of TGS makes sense to me, but not virus or the 404 page. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:04, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)

::But remember, some of the "Not Quite Strong Bad Emails" have only one line or so as a reference, like Fan Costume Commentary. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 22:36, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::And I don't think that they count as "Not Quite Strong Bad Emails" either, but I think I'm in the minority there. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:08, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I don't think the thing from Death Metal counts as a half-issue; I think it belongs under "other appearences." Any thoughts? -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 23:36, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:I agree completely. It's no different that a bunch of other emails that have cutaways to Old-Timey, 20X6, and whatever. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::What about "Issue 8 1/2?" Shouldn't that be in an Almost Teen Girl Squad, too? It seems pretty weird that it's counted as an actual issue. --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]]

==Funky Friends==

Teen Girl Squad seem to be a parody of Funky Friends (A girly fad). I once saw a comic about them that was very similar to Episode 3. One of the girls even looks like What's-Her-Face.

Although the concept of everybody dying is absent, TGS reminds me of Girl Squad from an episode of Dexter's Lab, wherein a bunch of girls would do stupid stuff because they thought they were fighting crime.

== Too biographical? ==

Do we need so much info on the TGS' character pages? (i.e. stuff that happened in one toon) Shouldn't we stick with the general stuff? And seriously, dump "Cheerleader/What's Her Face/The Ugly One's real name is either Virginia, Joy, or Jennifer"; the names given [[comic]] are likely to be never used again. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 02:34, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

:I think the more information that we can get (besides obvious stuff, like, "Cheerleader starts with 'C'") the better. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

[[wikipedia:Whatever_Happened_to_Robot_Jones|Whatever happened to]] [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 03:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

::To chime in with my two cents: I don't agree fully with either of you (I just have to be belligerent, huh? ;) ). Trogga: I think you take Once and Only Once far too seriously. It's okay if some information is duplicated, as long as it is duplicated appropriately. By your standards, there wouldn't be any character pages, because everything about the characters can logically be found in the various Toon pages... Firebird: The TGS character pages do seem a bit too cluttery to me. I think that character pages really should be about general character traits. The "hurt by" lists seem a bit excessive to me, especially as more TGS's appear... it would be like putting Strong Bad's email songs all listed on Strong Bad's character page... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:24, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

:::I say we reword and brush out all the little stuff in the biography, and keep the "Hurt By" sections. This way the bio looks clean and all the things in it can go into "Hurt By". Make sense? (I'm sure it doesn't.) →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

::::That sounds aprettypretty good. The "hurt by" lists are fine if you don't have the same stuff written up in the biographical paragraph (which is how it is now). <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:32, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

I think that it only seems cluttered (even to me) because there aren't as many toons that they are in. That means that if you like them, you will watch the same things over again and if you want more information, you turn here. But since you have allready seen everything, it seems a bit repetitive.

== StereoTypes!!!! ==

Don't the TGS members look a lot like high school stereotypes? -Kinsey
:I believe that is the POINT of the whole comic. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 18:46, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Slightly obvious, but true

== its vs. it's - Running gag status? ==

''On the closing screen, the contraction "it's" is misspelled as the possessive "its."''

Is this a running gag or a goof? Please make your statements in the proper area below.

'''Arguments for Running gag:'''
*Obviously not every running gag appears in every issue; The Birds are a running gag too, and only appear in some issues. The fact that it happens four non-consecutive times argues against it being accidental, but I think it should be noted in some way.
*The fact that it's repeated 4 times--but not every time--increases its import.

'''Arguments for Goof:'''
*Also, it represents a grammar error on Strong Bad's part, which we tend to point out since he's so picky with other people.
*If it's a gag, then why come it doesn't happen every issue?
*The TGS font does't include apostrophes. Everytime TBC want to use one, they have to manually add it in. I guess it's not always worth the effort. Even Whats Her Face is missing an apostrophe. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
**I think it's just them being lazy. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:58, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
*It's just an accident that has happened to occur multiple times. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 19:26, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
*Mike has admitted that he has trouble with its/it's. [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:40, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
*I think they're sometimes just lazy with this... but a lazy goof is still a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
*It is a simple gramatical error. Nothing more, nothing less. Come ''on'' people! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 21:14, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

'''Additional comments:'''
*Either way, it gets listed. Both goofs and running gags are automatically noted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Color vs. Black & White ==
For character pages, should we update the images with the color versions, where appropiate? Or should we just leave as is? Or should we put up a color image along with the black-and-white one? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:53, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:Like [[Strong Bad|many]] [[Homestar Runner|other]] [[Strong Mad|pages]], I believe we should have ''both'' versions on the TGS character pages. {{User:gwr2004/sig}} 00:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::I agree. The black-and-white pictures are the standard, so I think they definitely need to stay. However, the color pictures are interesting and show a version of what the characters look like. They both have a place. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 23:39, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
== Capitalization ==
Okay guys, what's our policy on transcribing the TG's dialogue, with regard to capitalization? I mean, they don't capitalize ''anything''; we go as far as capitalizing the first letters of sentences for them. But shouldn't "it's our tenth issuev-ersary" '''not''' transcribe as "Issue-versary"? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:Given that it doesn't really affect the readability of the page, I don't think it's worth worrying about. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 23:42, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Real-World Reference? ==

The TGS' refrain, "SO GOOD!" is the name of a song in the Bratz Rock Angelz Album. Ironically, the Bratz resemble the same teen girl stereotype:fashion-obsessed, trendy girls. Should this be mentioned?(By the way, the only reason I know this is because I was clicking "Random Page" on Wikipedia and stumbled apon it. I don't play with Bratz!) [[User:Llamanade|Llamanade]] 03:49, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:Depending on when the Bratz CD came out, it's more likely a [[Sightings|sighting]], if it's anything. I.e. if it was after Dec. 2, 2002. But it's most likely a coincidence; James Brown's hit [[Wikipedia:I Got You {I Feel Good)|]] also features those words prominently, but that doesn't make this a reference to that. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:04, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

== "er" vs "a" ==

Anybody else find it a bit odd how the girls say their "er" suffixes as "a"? For example, see [[Olda Boys]]. Does anyone else think this is important enough to warrant some mention on the Wiki? --[User:breadtangle breadtangle] ([User_talk:breadtangle talk]) 02:38, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

I do. --[[User:Sam Goldfish|Sam Goldfish]] 15:05, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:So do I. I recommend we mention it on this page. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 23:43, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

==See Also vs Navigation Template==

Do we really need "See Also" if we have the navigation template at the bottom of the page with many of the links already there? And if it isn't in the template, shouldn't it be? I think the template is enough, using "See Also" only in instances where there is no Temlate, yet there is still a distinct link between no more than 2 or 3 pages. Good examples are [[Floppy Disk Container]] ⇔ [[Couch Mumbling]], and [[Quote of the Week]] ⇔ [[Weekly Fanstuff]] ⇔ [[Sketchbook]]. And then of course disambiguation is used only when the pages have similar page names. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:35, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

=="Back" Button==

Is it worth mentioning that in some issues the back button will bring you to the toons menu and in other issues it will bring you back to the TGS issue menu thing?

[[User:Darthvader66|Darthvader66]] 12:48, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

:Sure! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:45, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

==South park similarities==
has anyone noticed the similarities between south park and tgs? for example, they die and then are back in the next episode with no explanation. same with south park's kenny mccormick. also, both have bad animation, feature four friends as the main characters, and have intentionally bad voice acting. ~ [[User:StrongChad|StrongChad]] 04:07 pm, 1/29/06
:Never thought about it before, but I'm willing to chalk it up to coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:08, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
::I agree. The brothers chaps have been known to express their hatred of things like south park, so they probably didnt' mean to be like it. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:40, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Maybe the reason that it is similar to south park is because they hate it; perhaps its something like a parody (I know that its a bit of a stretch). Plus, I think that there are still enough similarities, intentional or not, that it should be mentioned. ~ [[User:StrongChad|StrongChad]] 03:36 pm, 2/17/06

:::Good idea. That may just be true. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== issue list ==

I decided to spruce up the issue list in the manner of the menu toons page. This added running times, years and screen shots. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:29, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:Should the 8.5 and 10.5 appear where they are or under the heading of Other Appearances? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:31, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Teen Girl Squad

Chupaqueso — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:25:36 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* Almost Teen Girl Squads */

{{featuredarticle}}

Ok, let's all start to....

:Do you think we should link this page to the [[404'd]] page somehow? I think it belongs somewhere on this page, but I'm not quite sure where...
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<=>Thunderbird<=>]]</tt>'']] 23:51, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Done. Though it could probably use some work... →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

I like the movement of the pictures too. Especially since most pages are like that. (Why didn't I think of that...?)
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<=>Thunderbird<=>]]</tt>'']] 20:54, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Because I'm smarter than you. :) →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::True, true... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<=>Thunderbird<=>]]</tt>'']] 20:57, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Almost Teen Girl Squads==

There are already three of them under the 'Fun Facts', we have a section for Strong Bad Email, so why not Teen Girl Squad? ''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|<=>Thunderbird<=>]]</tt>'' 15:29, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:I just added in the "Sample" under issues and left the 404 page and virus appearance as is. IMO, "Sample" is more of a partial-issue and and virus is just a reference (it's only one line...). Having Sample as a "half-issue" of TGS makes sense to me, but not virus or the 404 page. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:04, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)

::But remember, some of the "Not Quite Strong Bad Emails" have only one line or so as a reference, like Fan Costume Commentary. -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 22:36, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::And I don't think that they count as "Not Quite Strong Bad Emails" either, but I think I'm in the minority there. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:08, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I don't think the thing from Death Metal counts as a half-issue; I think it belongs under "other appearences." Any thoughts? -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 23:36, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:I agree completely. It's no different that a bunch of other emails that have cutaways to Old-Timey, 20X6, and whatever. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:What about "Issue 8 1/2?" Shouldn't that be in an Almost Teen Girl Squad, too? It seems pretty weird that it's counted as an actual issue. --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]]

==Funky Friends==

Teen Girl Squad seem to be a parody of Funky Friends (A girly fad). I once saw a comic about them that was very similar to Episode 3. One of the girls even looks like What's-Her-Face.

Although the concept of everybody dying is absent, TGS reminds me of Girl Squad from an episode of Dexter's Lab, wherein a bunch of girls would do stupid stuff because they thought they were fighting crime.

== Too biographical? ==

Do we need so much info on the TGS' character pages? (i.e. stuff that happened in one toon) Shouldn't we stick with the general stuff? And seriously, dump "Cheerleader/What's Her Face/The Ugly One's real name is either Virginia, Joy, or Jennifer"; the names given [[comic]] are likely to be never used again. --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 02:34, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

:I think the more information that we can get (besides obvious stuff, like, "Cheerleader starts with 'C'") the better. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

[[wikipedia:Whatever_Happened_to_Robot_Jones|Whatever happened to]] [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]? --[[User:Trogga|TROGGA!]] 03:19, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

::To chime in with my two cents: I don't agree fully with either of you (I just have to be belligerent, huh? ;) ). Trogga: I think you take Once and Only Once far too seriously. It's okay if some information is duplicated, as long as it is duplicated appropriately. By your standards, there wouldn't be any character pages, because everything about the characters can logically be found in the various Toon pages... Firebird: The TGS character pages do seem a bit too cluttery to me. I think that character pages really should be about general character traits. The "hurt by" lists seem a bit excessive to me, especially as more TGS's appear... it would be like putting Strong Bad's email songs all listed on Strong Bad's character page... <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:24, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

:::I say we reword and brush out all the little stuff in the biography, and keep the "Hurt By" sections. This way the bio looks clean and all the things in it can go into "Hurt By". Make sense? (I'm sure it doesn't.) →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

::::That sounds aprettypretty good. The "hurt by" lists are fine if you don't have the same stuff written up in the biographical paragraph (which is how it is now). <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 03:32, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

I think that it only seems cluttered (even to me) because there aren't as many toons that they are in. That means that if you like them, you will watch the same things over again and if you want more information, you turn here. But since you have allready seen everything, it seems a bit repetitive.

== StereoTypes!!!! ==

Don't the TGS members look a lot like high school stereotypes? -Kinsey
:I believe that is the POINT of the whole comic. --[[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] 18:46, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Slightly obvious, but true

== its vs. it's - Running gag status? ==

''On the closing screen, the contraction "it's" is misspelled as the possessive "its."''

Is this a running gag or a goof? Please make your statements in the proper area below.

'''Arguments for Running gag:'''
*Obviously not every running gag appears in every issue; The Birds are a running gag too, and only appear in some issues. The fact that it happens four non-consecutive times argues against it being accidental, but I think it should be noted in some way.
*The fact that it's repeated 4 times--but not every time--increases its import.

'''Arguments for Goof:'''
*Also, it represents a grammar error on Strong Bad's part, which we tend to point out since he's so picky with other people.
*If it's a gag, then why come it doesn't happen every issue?
*The TGS font does't include apostrophes. Everytime TBC want to use one, they have to manually add it in. I guess it's not always worth the effort. Even Whats Her Face is missing an apostrophe. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
**I think it's just them being lazy. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:58, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
*It's just an accident that has happened to occur multiple times. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 19:26, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
*Mike has admitted that he has trouble with its/it's. [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:40, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
*I think they're sometimes just lazy with this... but a lazy goof is still a goof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
*It is a simple gramatical error. Nothing more, nothing less. Come ''on'' people! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 21:14, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

'''Additional comments:'''
*Either way, it gets listed. Both goofs and running gags are automatically noted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Color vs. Black & White ==
For character pages, should we update the images with the color versions, where appropiate? Or should we just leave as is? Or should we put up a color image along with the black-and-white one? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:53, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:Like [[Strong Bad|many]] [[Homestar Runner|other]] [[Strong Mad|pages]], I believe we should have ''both'' versions on the TGS character pages. {{User:gwr2004/sig}} 00:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::I agree. The black-and-white pictures are the standard, so I think they definitely need to stay. However, the color pictures are interesting and show a version of what the characters look like. They both have a place. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 23:39, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
== Capitalization ==
Okay guys, what's our policy on transcribing the TG's dialogue, with regard to capitalization? I mean, they don't capitalize ''anything''; we go as far as capitalizing the first letters of sentences for them. But shouldn't "it's our tenth issuev-ersary" '''not''' transcribe as "Issue-versary"? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:Given that it doesn't really affect the readability of the page, I don't think it's worth worrying about. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 23:42, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Real-World Reference? ==

The TGS' refrain, "SO GOOD!" is the name of a song in the Bratz Rock Angelz Album. Ironically, the Bratz resemble the same teen girl stereotype:fashion-obsessed, trendy girls. Should this be mentioned?(By the way, the only reason I know this is because I was clicking "Random Page" on Wikipedia and stumbled apon it. I don't play with Bratz!) [[User:Llamanade|Llamanade]] 03:49, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:Depending on when the Bratz CD came out, it's more likely a [[Sightings|sighting]], if it's anything. I.e. if it was after Dec. 2, 2002. But it's most likely a coincidence; James Brown's hit [[Wikipedia:I Got You {I Feel Good)|]] also features those words prominently, but that doesn't make this a reference to that. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:04, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

== "er" vs "a" ==

Anybody else find it a bit odd how the girls say their "er" suffixes as "a"? For example, see [[Olda Boys]]. Does anyone else think this is important enough to warrant some mention on the Wiki? --[User:breadtangle breadtangle] ([User_talk:breadtangle talk]) 02:38, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

I do. --[[User:Sam Goldfish|Sam Goldfish]] 15:05, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
:So do I. I recommend we mention it on this page. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 23:43, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

==See Also vs Navigation Template==

Do we really need "See Also" if we have the navigation template at the bottom of the page with many of the links already there? And if it isn't in the template, shouldn't it be? I think the template is enough, using "See Also" only in instances where there is no Temlate, yet there is still a distinct link between no more than 2 or 3 pages. Good examples are [[Floppy Disk Container]] ⇔ [[Couch Mumbling]], and [[Quote of the Week]] ⇔ [[Weekly Fanstuff]] ⇔ [[Sketchbook]]. And then of course disambiguation is used only when the pages have similar page names. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:35, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

=="Back" Button==

Is it worth mentioning that in some issues the back button will bring you to the toons menu and in other issues it will bring you back to the TGS issue menu thing?

[[User:Darthvader66|Darthvader66]] 12:48, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

:Sure! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:45, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

==South park similarities==
has anyone noticed the similarities between south park and tgs? for example, they die and then are back in the next episode with no explanation. same with south park's kenny mccormick. also, both have bad animation, feature four friends as the main characters, and have intentionally bad voice acting. ~ [[User:StrongChad|StrongChad]] 04:07 pm, 1/29/06
:Never thought about it before, but I'm willing to chalk it up to coincidence. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:08, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
::I agree. The brothers chaps have been known to express their hatred of things like south park, so they probably didnt' mean to be like it. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:40, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Maybe the reason that it is similar to south park is because they hate it; perhaps its something like a parody (I know that its a bit of a stretch). Plus, I think that there are still enough similarities, intentional or not, that it should be mentioned. ~ [[User:StrongChad|StrongChad]] 03:36 pm, 2/17/06

:::Good idea. That may just be true. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== issue list ==

I decided to spruce up the issue list in the manner of the menu toons page. This added running times, years and screen shots. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:29, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:Should the 8.5 and 10.5 appear where they are or under the heading of Other Appearances? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:31, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

User:Chupaqueso

Chupaqueso — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 02:57:52 GMT

Chupaqueso:

Hi, I'm El Chupaqueso. I'll add more to this page later. But as I'm righting this, I'm really tired. Therefore, I can't think of anything funny. Y'know. To say.

Talk:Sweet Cuppin' Cakes Theme Song

Chupaqueso — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 02:56:12 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* What about the Worm? */

==What's up with the attributions?==

Casio Bad doesn't talk, Eh! Steve only says his own name, and I'm pretty confident it's Homsar who says Eh! Steve at the very end (it's certainly NOT Eh! Steve!) Only the second verse is clearly done by characters within the 'toon. Whose bright idea was it to give the credits as listed?! - [[User:Jay|Jay]] 16 Nov 2004
:Nobody ever said that Eh Steve could only say his own name. Strong Bad only said that every week, Eh Steve comes in and says his tagline, which happens to be his own name. I've always thought that "Singer 2" was Eh Steve, and I still think it.
:--SimBen
:Wasn't mine. Also, there's absolutely no way that's Homsar. It sounds nothing like him at all. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:13, 16 Nov 2004 (MST)
::If you say so - but let's at least make it clear that it's not Eh! Steve either. (I'm still not convinced that it's not Homsar, personally, but let's not quibble that point.) -- [[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:18, 16 Nov 2004 (MST)
:::Um, hate to say this, but having the name be ??? as opposed to "Eh! Steve!" prettymuch sends the message that whoever's saying it isn't "Eh! Steve" --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:22, 16 Nov 2004 (MST)
::::So you say, but even WITH the note, someone tried to change it back. 9_9 -- [[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:49, 18 Nov 2004 (MST)

Sounds like Homsar to me. Compare the voice to sbemail2.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

prsnaly i think that its homsar and that eny one who thinks its eh steev is a dim wit

:''Personally I'' think that ''it's'' ''Eh! Steve'', and that ''any one'' who thinks ''it's'' ''Homsar'' is not a ''dimwit'', just has a different opinion. Sign your posts on discussions, and please, please don't use internet slang. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

??? is pretty awkward. Shouldn't it be Singer 3 or Voice 3 or something?

:I agree. Good edit.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:13, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)

== I think... ==

they should make this the karaoke video on the next DVD. Then we'll finally know what all the lyrics actually are. And maybe who says "Eh! Steve" at the end. (I say it's Homsar but you can't really be sure.) [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]

good idea
[[User:Choco|Choco]] 15:45, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Eh! Steve similarity ==

I dare say chaps. The singer who shouts "Eh! Steve!" on the soundtrack sounds similar to the Eh! Steve in the [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] Teen Girl Squad sample.

Just thought I would throw that out there.

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}} 05:34, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== What about the Worm? ==

Ever since the first time I listened to the song, I thought that singer 1 was the Worm, since his voice sounded so similar to the voice used when he said "It's a miracle!" in the Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes toon. Does anyone else agree/disagree? --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]]
:Although the worm didn't have his first speaking appearance until well after the CD's release... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Thats true, but that doesn't mean it's not his voice. But then again, I also noticed that in the Decemberween toon the worm saying "It's a miracle!" sounded different from when he was saying "Up, down," earlier in the toon. It could be, though, that the "Up, down," wasn't him speaking (since he didn't open his mouth for that part, but did for "It's a miracle"), but actually a sort of sound effect. Considering the nature of Sweet Cuppin' Cakes, that's fairly likely. --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]]

Talk:Sweet Cuppin' Cakes Theme Song

Chupaqueso — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 02:54:36 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* What about the Worm? */

==What's up with the attributions?==

Casio Bad doesn't talk, Eh! Steve only says his own name, and I'm pretty confident it's Homsar who says Eh! Steve at the very end (it's certainly NOT Eh! Steve!) Only the second verse is clearly done by characters within the 'toon. Whose bright idea was it to give the credits as listed?! - [[User:Jay|Jay]] 16 Nov 2004
:Nobody ever said that Eh Steve could only say his own name. Strong Bad only said that every week, Eh Steve comes in and says his tagline, which happens to be his own name. I've always thought that "Singer 2" was Eh Steve, and I still think it.
:--SimBen
:Wasn't mine. Also, there's absolutely no way that's Homsar. It sounds nothing like him at all. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:13, 16 Nov 2004 (MST)
::If you say so - but let's at least make it clear that it's not Eh! Steve either. (I'm still not convinced that it's not Homsar, personally, but let's not quibble that point.) -- [[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:18, 16 Nov 2004 (MST)
:::Um, hate to say this, but having the name be ??? as opposed to "Eh! Steve!" prettymuch sends the message that whoever's saying it isn't "Eh! Steve" --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:22, 16 Nov 2004 (MST)
::::So you say, but even WITH the note, someone tried to change it back. 9_9 -- [[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:49, 18 Nov 2004 (MST)

Sounds like Homsar to me. Compare the voice to sbemail2.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

prsnaly i think that its homsar and that eny one who thinks its eh steev is a dim wit

:''Personally I'' think that ''it's'' ''Eh! Steve'', and that ''any one'' who thinks ''it's'' ''Homsar'' is not a ''dimwit'', just has a different opinion. Sign your posts on discussions, and please, please don't use internet slang. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

??? is pretty awkward. Shouldn't it be Singer 3 or Voice 3 or something?

:I agree. Good edit.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:13, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)

== I think... ==

they should make this the karaoke video on the next DVD. Then we'll finally know what all the lyrics actually are. And maybe who says "Eh! Steve" at the end. (I say it's Homsar but you can't really be sure.) [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]

good idea
[[User:Choco|Choco]] 15:45, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Eh! Steve similarity ==

I dare say chaps. The singer who shouts "Eh! Steve!" on the soundtrack sounds similar to the Eh! Steve in the [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] Teen Girl Squad sample.

Just thought I would throw that out there.

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}} 05:34, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== What about the Worm? ==

Ever since the first time I listened to the song, I thought that singer 1 was the Worm, since his voice sounded so similar to the voice used when he said "It's a miracle!" in the Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes toon. Does anyone else agree/disagree? -- [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]]
:Although the worm didn't have his first speaking appearance until well after the CD's release... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Thats true, but that doesn't mean it's not his voice. But then again, I also noticed that in the Decemberween toon the worm saying "It's a miracle!" sounded different from when he was saying "Up, down," earlier in the toon. It could be, though, that the "Up, down," wasn't him speaking (since he didn't open his mouth for that part, but did for "It's a miracle"), but actually a sort of sound effect. Considering the nature of Sweet Cuppin' Cakes, that's fairly likely. -- [[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]]

Sweet Cuppin' Cakes Theme Song

Chupaqueso — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 02:47:46 GMT

Chupaqueso: Changed the footnotes a little, to make them better categorized

[[Image:scc.png|thumb|"It's the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes!"]]
== Detailed Information ==
{{Track information | album = Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits | track number = 9 | length = 56 seconds | artists = Sweet Cuppin' Cakes | style = [[Wikipedia:Theme music|Theme song]] | origin = This is the theme song for [[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]], created in [[crazy cartoon]]}}

== Lyrics ==
'''EVERYONE:''' Oh man! It's the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes!

'''SINGER 1[1]:''' Have you ever watched this show?

'''SINGER 2[2]:''' Just this once, I didn't know

'''SINGER 1:''' How you think this show will go?

'''SINGER 2:''' Take a shot, my friend!

'''SINGER 1:''' I can't see where I am goin'

'''SINGER 2:''' Fighting this is my last name

'''SINGER 1:''' Cartoon friends are just say noin'

'''SINGER 2:''' My friends are back here all the same!

'''EVERYONE:''' Sweet Cuppin' Cakes

'''THE WHEELCHAIR:''' Have you ever watched this show?

'''SHERLOCK:''' {Mumbling}

'''THE WHEELCHAIR:''' How you think this show will go?

'''SHERLOCK:''' {Mumbling}

'''THE WHEELCHAIR:''' I can't see where I am goin'

'''SHERLOCK:''' {Mumbling}

'''THE WHEELCHAIR:''' Cartoon friends are just say noin'

'''SHERLOCK:''' {Mumbling}

'''THE WHEELCHAIR:''' Everybody knows it, everybody knows it, everybody knows it, everybody knows it, everybody knows it, everybody knows it, watch out for Eh! Steve!

'''VOICE[3]:''' Eh! Steve! erm...

[1] - Some have pointed out that singer 1 sounds like [[The Worm|The Worm's]] voice in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]].

[2] - It is possible that Singer 2 is Eh! Steve, and if so it would be the first time he's said anything besides his catchphrase.

[3] - There is some controversy as to the identity of the speaker at the end of the song - it may or may not be Eh! Steve, but it sounds like Singer 1, and it bears a resemblance to [[Homsar]]'s voice, as well.

{{Template:Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits}}

[[Category: Songs]]
[[Category:Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]

Main Page 22

Chupaqueso — Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:45:15 GMT

Chupaqueso: Noticed that someone had already coverd it in the glitches section.

{{mainnav|22|21|23}}
[[Image:main22.PNG|thumb|right|220px|Revenge of the Virus]]

This main page has been attacked by [[The Virus]] from the email [[virus]]. Weird glitches abound.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[The Virus]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Old Man]], [[Bad Graphics Ghost]], {{Film|Biscuit Dough Hands Man}}, [[Monte Negro]], {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}

'''Place:''' [[Computer Room]]

'''Icon:''' [[Edgar]]

'''Page title:''' "Drop a train on em!"

'''Date:''' December 5, 2004

==Button Effects==
*'''[[Toons Menu|Toons]]''' — The museum button falls down to the bottom of the screen and takes out "sb emails" and "contact" on the navbar. Placing the cursor over the button a second time returns these back to their normal locations.
*'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]''' — The right side of the table turns black and has a red wireframe grid on it, while the [[No Loafing Sign|No Loafing sign]] turns into HTML code. Part of [[Peasant's Quest]] becomes visible on the right side of the screen, and we can see the lake with the Old Man fishing. Placing the cursor over the button a second time returns things back to normal.
*'''[[Character Videos|Characters]]''' — Homestar speaks in the loud, distorted noise that Marzipan had in the email [[virus]] and the computer on the desk changes to one of several other computers (see list below; each computer is accompanied by the relevant version of disk media, except with the [[Pom Pilot]]).
*'''[[Downloads]]''' — [[Homestar Runner]]'s head switches to the old drawing style, and several popups appear on screen saying "Click here to WIN an e-Vacation!!" and "Make millions doing nothing!!" with [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]] saying [[fhqwhgads]] (in [[Visor Robot]]'s voice) on "Make millions doing nothing!!", along with Cory from the [[That A Ghost]] toon, and [[Monte Negro]] on "Click here to WIN an e-Vacation!!". The sandwich from [[Main Page 5]] appears with a voice similar to [[Coach Z]]'s voice saying, "Quarter cheese plate scattered-smothered-covered," and eventually the startup screen for [[Edgar|Edgar the Virus Hunter]] covers the whole screen. Bubs (in his [[Powered by The Cheat]] style from [[mile]]) gets superimposed intermittently over Edgar's face and says, "...some of my buses!" 
*'''[[Store]]''' — Homestar says "All right!" instead of "Store!", and his head floats to the right and into the black. As soon as his head stops moving it instantly faces to the right instead of to the left. Also, the "Store" button stretches out horizontally a little more each time you hover over it. It will stretch twenty-one times, and will revert to its original size on the twenty-second, but it will only change size when you hover over the normal-sized icon.
*'''[[Email]]''' — Homestar's head returns to its oldschool drawing style again, and a very misshapen Strong Bad with Marzipan's ponytail appears in the black to the left and says, "Things were just about to start getting crazy-go-nuts!" A duck from [[Duck Guardian]] appears in the lower right in the black and explodes, revealing some HTML code, and another duck appears over Strong Bad's mouth and explodes.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*Like the [[Strong Bad Email]] on which the page is based (virus), the navbar is in the same Flash file as the page itself.
*The main link at the bottom always leads to [[Main Page 1]].
*The Store button does not change colors when hovered over. This is the only instance of this on any main page, aside from [[Main Page 15]]'s E-Mail button.
*You can click on the museum link after it falls, but not the navbar links that it crushes ("sb email" and "contact").
*The sound made when one of the popups opens when you mouse-over Downloads is the same noise Strong Bad made when a "Message Thyme" window opened up in [[marzipan]].
*Until [[Main Page 23]] was released, this page and [[Main Page 21]] were inaccessible using the "main" link on the navbar.
*The labels on the disks in the floppy disk container read "[[Floppy Disk Container#oregon trail|oregon trail]]" and "[[Floppy Disk Container#oregon trail 2|oregon trail 2]]".
*While [[TrogdorCon '97]] was the new short, scrolling over "new short!" would make half of the Cheat's horn (from that short) appear. Clicking on the horn would start the short.

===Remarks===
*In order, the computers you can get from the Characters button are as follows (starting with the Shotgunned Compy 386):
**[[Tandy 400]] with [[Minor_Alternate_Versions#Other|Bad Graphics Homestar]] from [[butt IQ]] and 5.25" floppy container
**[[Tangerine Dreams]] with the [[crazy cartoon]] cartoon and CD-R spindle
**[[Compy 386]] with System Report (from [[50 emails]], [[The System is Down]], and [[Not the 100th Email!!!]]) taped to the screen and 3.5" floppy container
**Broken Tandy 400 with [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] and 5.25" floppy container
**[[Pom Pilot]] (alone)
**[[Lappy 486]] with 3.5" floppy container
*The floppy disk in the [[Floppy Disk Container]] says "Oregon Trail 2" for the Broken Compy, Compy with system report, and The Lappy. For both of the Tandys, it says "Oregon Trail". There are no labels on the CDs next to [[Tangerine Dreams|The Cheat's computer]].
*Each button has a different [[Fonts|font]] and/or style.
**The Toons button has the regular button font (Bauhaus Thin).
**The Games button has the navbar button font. If you view the Flash file and zoom in, you'll see the Games text seem to change to bold. This is because the text isn't embedded into the Flash file, but rather being read from your computer. To put it simply, zoomed out it's a 12 point font, but zoomed in, it's 72. It also changes font type when clicked. 
**The Characters button has the "Last Updated" font from the upper-right corner of the main page (Comix Heavy). The word "Characters" turns yellow when hovered above and it also changes green when clicked.
**The Store button has the font from the "Latest Updates" buttons (Potrezebie). Also, when it is clicked, only the word moves downwards, not the button.
**The Downloads and E-mail buttons are the older-style buttons from [[HR:main6x.swf|Old Main Page 6]], [[Luau Main Page]], and [[Main Page 10]]. These have a plain, solid-colored background unlike the newer style with shaded button backgrounds. 
*The HTML Code revealed when the duck from Duck Guardian explodes is "<html stuff><body><href>combledon".
*When the [[Random Toon|random toon]] link ("rando") was added to the [[HR:main_nav.swf|navbar]], The Brothers Chaps forgot or chose not to update this page, as it does not use the regular navbar.
*There is a Shotgunned Compy in the background, yet if it had been shot, it would seem to suggest that the viruses would be gone.
*The Quote of the Week, Sketchbook, Fan Stuff, and Random Toon boxes appear slightly to the left of where they usually are. This also affects toons that pop up, like [[Biz Cas Fri 1]].
**This is because the menu has some black space on both sides, altering where the boxes are supposed to anchor themselves.
**This glitch also pops up on the [[Strong Bad's Room Main Page]] for the same reasons.
***Because of this glitch, you can see a quirky thing happen when you click the quote of the week button. For a Split second you will be able to see Homestar's face and a short blurb saying "Oh Haldo! This is my funniest word style ever times that I've said! Hope all is on to it even more lately! And I wish the chicken & msg place was open on Somedays."
****A previous version of the Quote of the Day page read "Oh Hello! This is my funniest word style ever that I said! Hope you're into it!". It was changed sometime in mid-April 2005, probably the 15th (the date reported in the "Last-Modified" HTTP header for qod.swf). The reason for the change is as yet unknown.

===Glitches===
*There is a sound glitch in the characters button. If you repeatedly play the glitched sound by hovering over 'Characters', all the sound in the file will stop for a few seconds.
*If you roll over the Store button 16 or more times, to make it grow, then roll over the Downloads button, you can still see the left edge of the Store button when Edgar pops up.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad's line "Things were just about to start getting [[Crazy Go Nuts University|crazy-go-nuts]]!" is from the toon [[The Luau]].
*There are many references to the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]:
**"Drop a train on 'em!" is what Strong Bad said when he ran [[Edgar#Edgarware|Edgarware]] in virus.
**Part of the desk becoming a red vector grid is from virus.
**In [[virus]], Homestar Runner also had [[The Homestar Runner]]'s torso.
**The sound Homestar makes when you scroll over the Characters button is taken from the noises Marzipan made in virus.
**Pop-ups also appeared at the same parts of the screen in virus.
**Homestar Runner's head also came off in virus.
**Strong Bad's body becoming unporportional and getting Marzipan's hair style is also from virus.
*The "fhqwhgads" sound clip is from [[Everybody to the Limit]].
*Powered by The Cheat Bubs and his line are from the Strong Bad Email [[mile]].
*Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the [[Homestar Talker]].
*Homestar's head turning backwards when going out of the screen may refer to [[Main Page 10]].
*After the Duck Guardian duck explodes, it leaves behind an html script, which was also present in [[Main Page 18]].

==External Links==

*[[HR:main22.html|go to Main Page 22]]
*[[HR:main22.swf|view the Flash file for Main Page 22]]
*[[Forum:1451|forum thread re: "Main Page 22"]]
{{Main Page}}

[[Category:Main Pages]]

Main Page 22

Chupaqueso — Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:43:25 GMT

Chupaqueso: Noticed this while messing around with the page, didn't see it on here, so added it.

{{mainnav|22|21|23}}
[[Image:main22.PNG|thumb|right|220px|Revenge of the Virus]]

This main page has been attacked by [[The Virus]] from the email [[virus]]. Weird glitches abound.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[The Virus]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Old Man]], [[Bad Graphics Ghost]], {{Film|Biscuit Dough Hands Man}}, [[Monte Negro]], {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}

'''Place:''' [[Computer Room]]

'''Icon:''' [[Edgar]]

'''Page title:''' "Drop a train on em!"

'''Date:''' December 5, 2004

==Button Effects==
*'''[[Toons Menu|Toons]]''' — The museum button falls down to the bottom of the screen and takes out "sb emails" and "contact" on the navbar. Placing the cursor over the button a second time returns these back to their normal locations.
*'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]''' — The right side of the table turns black and has a red wireframe grid on it, while the [[No Loafing Sign|No Loafing sign]] turns into HTML code. Part of [[Peasant's Quest]] becomes visible on the right side of the screen, and we can see the lake with the Old Man fishing. Placing the cursor over the button a second time returns things back to normal.
*'''[[Character Videos|Characters]]''' — Homestar speaks in the loud, distorted noise that Marzipan had in the email [[virus]] and the computer on the desk changes to one of several other computers (see list below; each computer is accompanied by the relevant version of disk media, except with the [[Pom Pilot]]).
*'''[[Downloads]]''' — [[Homestar Runner]]'s head switches to the old drawing style, and several popups appear on screen saying "Click here to WIN an e-Vacation!!" and "Make millions doing nothing!!" with [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]] saying [[fhqwhgads]] (in [[Visor Robot]]'s voice) on "Make millions doing nothing!!", along with Cory from the [[That A Ghost]] toon, and [[Monte Negro]] on "Click here to WIN an e-Vacation!!". The sandwich from [[Main Page 5]] appears with a voice similar to [[Coach Z]]'s voice saying, "Quarter cheese plate scattered-smothered-covered," and eventually the startup screen for [[Edgar|Edgar the Virus Hunter]] covers the whole screen. Bubs (in his [[Powered by The Cheat]] style from [[mile]]) gets superimposed intermittently over Edgar's face and says, "...some of my buses!" 
*'''[[Store]]''' — Homestar says "All right!" instead of "Store!", and his head floats to the right and into the black. As soon as his head stops moving it instantly faces to the right instead of to the left. Also, the "Store" button stretches out horizontally a little more each time you hover over it. It will stretch twenty-one times, and will revert to its original size on the twenty-second, but it will only change size when you hover over the normal-sized icon.
*'''[[Email]]''' — Homestar's head returns to its oldschool drawing style again, and a very misshapen Strong Bad with Marzipan's ponytail appears in the black to the left and says, "Things were just about to start getting crazy-go-nuts!" A duck from [[Duck Guardian]] appears in the lower right in the black and explodes, revealing some HTML code, and another duck appears over Strong Bad's mouth and explodes.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*Like the [[Strong Bad Email]] on which the page is based (virus), the navbar is in the same Flash file as the page itself.
*The main link at the bottom always leads to [[Main Page 1]].
*The Store button does not change colors when hovered over. This is the only instance of this on any main page, aside from [[Main Page 15]]'s E-Mail button.
*You can click on the museum link after it falls, but not the navbar links that it crushes ("sb email" and "contact").
*The sound made when one of the popups opens when you mouse-over Downloads is the same noise Strong Bad made when a "Message Thyme" window opened up in [[marzipan]].
*Until [[Main Page 23]] was released, this page and [[Main Page 21]] were inaccessible using the "main" link on the navbar.
*The labels on the disks in the floppy disk container read "[[Floppy Disk Container#oregon trail|oregon trail]]" and "[[Floppy Disk Container#oregon trail 2|oregon trail 2]]".
*While [[TrogdorCon '97]] was the new short, scrolling over "new short!" would make half of the Cheat's horn (from that short) appear. Clicking on the horn would start the short.

===Remarks===
*In order, the computers you can get from the Characters button are as follows (starting with the Shotgunned Compy 386):
**[[Tandy 400]] with [[Minor_Alternate_Versions#Other|Bad Graphics Homestar]] from [[butt IQ]] and 5.25" floppy container
**[[Tangerine Dreams]] with the [[crazy cartoon]] cartoon and CD-R spindle
**[[Compy 386]] with System Report (from [[50 emails]], [[The System is Down]], and [[Not the 100th Email!!!]]) taped to the screen and 3.5" floppy container
**Broken Tandy 400 with [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] and 5.25" floppy container
**[[Pom Pilot]] (alone)
**[[Lappy 486]] with 3.5" floppy container
*The floppy disk in the [[Floppy Disk Container]] says "Oregon Trail 2" for the Broken Compy, Compy with system report, and The Lappy. For both of the Tandys, it says "Oregon Trail". There are no labels on the CDs next to [[Tangerine Dreams|The Cheat's computer]].
*Each button has a different [[Fonts|font]] and/or style.
**The Toons button has the regular button font (Bauhaus Thin).
**The Games button has the navbar button font. If you view the Flash file and zoom in, you'll see the Games text seem to change to bold. This is because the text isn't embedded into the Flash file, but rather being read from your computer. To put it simply, zoomed out it's a 12 point font, but zoomed in, it's 72. It also changes font type when clicked. 
**The Characters button has the "Last Updated" font from the upper-right corner of the main page (Comix Heavy). The word "Characters" turns yellow when hovered above and it also changes green when clicked.
**The Store button has the font from the "Latest Updates" buttons (Potrezebie). Also, when it is clicked, only the word moves downwards, not the button.
**The Downloads and E-mail buttons are the older-style buttons from [[HR:main6x.swf|Old Main Page 6]], [[Luau Main Page]], and [[Main Page 10]]. These have a plain, solid-colored background unlike the newer style with shaded button backgrounds. 
*The HTML Code revealed when the duck from Duck Guardian explodes is "<html stuff><body><href>combledon".
*When the [[Random Toon|random toon]] link ("rando") was added to the [[HR:main_nav.swf|navbar]], The Brothers Chaps forgot or chose not to update this page, as it does not use the regular navbar.
*There is a Shotgunned Compy in the background, yet if it had been shot, it would seem to suggest that the viruses would be gone.
*The Quote of the Week, Sketchbook, Fan Stuff, and Random Toon boxes appear slightly to the left of where they usually are. This also affects toons that pop up, like [[Biz Cas Fri 1]].
**This is because the menu has some black space on both sides, altering where the boxes are supposed to anchor themselves.
**This glitch also pops up on the [[Strong Bad's Room Main Page]] for the same reasons.
***Because of this glitch, you can see a quirky thing happen when you click the quote of the week button. For a Split second you will be able to see Homestar's face and a short blurb saying "Oh Haldo! This is my funniest word style ever times that I've said! Hope all is on to it even more lately! And I wish the chicken & msg place was open on Somedays."
****A previous version of the Quote of the Day page read "Oh Hello! This is my funniest word style ever that I said! Hope you're into it!". It was changed sometime in mid-April 2005, probably the 15th (the date reported in the "Last-Modified" HTTP header for qod.swf). The reason for the change is as yet unknown.
*If you extend the Store button into the black border, and then scroll over the Downloads button, when the Edgarware screen pops up, part of the Store button will be sticking out from behind it.

===Glitches===
*There is a sound glitch in the characters button. If you repeatedly play the glitched sound by hovering over 'Characters', all the sound in the file will stop for a few seconds.
*If you roll over the Store button 16 or more times, to make it grow, then roll over the Downloads button, you can still see the left edge of the Store button when Edgar pops up.

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad's line "Things were just about to start getting [[Crazy Go Nuts University|crazy-go-nuts]]!" is from the toon [[The Luau]].
*There are many references to the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]:
**"Drop a train on 'em!" is what Strong Bad said when he ran [[Edgar#Edgarware|Edgarware]] in virus.
**Part of the desk becoming a red vector grid is from virus.
**In [[virus]], Homestar Runner also had [[The Homestar Runner]]'s torso.
**The sound Homestar makes when you scroll over the Characters button is taken from the noises Marzipan made in virus.
**Pop-ups also appeared at the same parts of the screen in virus.
**Homestar Runner's head also came off in virus.
**Strong Bad's body becoming unporportional and getting Marzipan's hair style is also from virus.
*The "fhqwhgads" sound clip is from [[Everybody to the Limit]].
*Powered by The Cheat Bubs and his line are from the Strong Bad Email [[mile]].
*Homestar's quip of "All right!" is taken from the [[Homestar Talker]].
*Homestar's head turning backwards when going out of the screen may refer to [[Main Page 10]].
*After the Duck Guardian duck explodes, it leaves behind an html script, which was also present in [[Main Page 18]].

==External Links==

*[[HR:main22.html|go to Main Page 22]]
*[[HR:main22.swf|view the Flash file for Main Page 22]]
*[[Forum:1451|forum thread re: "Main Page 22"]]
{{Main Page}}

[[Category:Main Pages]]

Talk:Sweet Cuppin' Cakes Theme Song

Chupaqueso — Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:11:26 GMT

Chupaqueso: What about the Worm?

==What's up with the attributions?==

Casio Bad doesn't talk, Eh! Steve only says his own name, and I'm pretty confident it's Homsar who says Eh! Steve at the very end (it's certainly NOT Eh! Steve!) Only the second verse is clearly done by characters within the 'toon. Whose bright idea was it to give the credits as listed?! - [[User:Jay|Jay]] 16 Nov 2004
:Nobody ever said that Eh Steve could only say his own name. Strong Bad only said that every week, Eh Steve comes in and says his tagline, which happens to be his own name. I've always thought that "Singer 2" was Eh Steve, and I still think it.
:--SimBen
:Wasn't mine. Also, there's absolutely no way that's Homsar. It sounds nothing like him at all. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:13, 16 Nov 2004 (MST)
::If you say so - but let's at least make it clear that it's not Eh! Steve either. (I'm still not convinced that it's not Homsar, personally, but let's not quibble that point.) -- [[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:18, 16 Nov 2004 (MST)
:::Um, hate to say this, but having the name be ??? as opposed to "Eh! Steve!" prettymuch sends the message that whoever's saying it isn't "Eh! Steve" --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:22, 16 Nov 2004 (MST)
::::So you say, but even WITH the note, someone tried to change it back. 9_9 -- [[User:Jay|Jay]] 02:49, 18 Nov 2004 (MST)

Sounds like Homsar to me. Compare the voice to sbemail2.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

prsnaly i think that its homsar and that eny one who thinks its eh steev is a dim wit

:''Personally I'' think that ''it's'' ''Eh! Steve'', and that ''any one'' who thinks ''it's'' ''Homsar'' is not a ''dimwit'', just has a different opinion. Sign your posts on discussions, and please, please don't use internet slang. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

??? is pretty awkward. Shouldn't it be Singer 3 or Voice 3 or something?

:I agree. Good edit.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:13, 29 Jan 2005 (MST)

== I think... ==

they should make this the karaoke video on the next DVD. Then we'll finally know what all the lyrics actually are. And maybe who says "Eh! Steve" at the end. (I say it's Homsar but you can't really be sure.) [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]

good idea
[[User:Choco|Choco]] 15:45, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Eh! Steve similarity ==

I dare say chaps. The singer who shouts "Eh! Steve!" on the soundtrack sounds similar to the Eh! Steve in the [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] Teen Girl Squad sample.

Just thought I would throw that out there.

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}} 05:34, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== What about the Worm? ==

Ever since the first time I listened to the song, I thought that singer 1 was the Worm, since his voice sounded so similar to the voice used when he said "It's a miricle!" in the Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes toon. Does anyone else agree/disagree? -- Chupaqueso

Sweet Cuppin' Cakes Theme Song

Chupaqueso — Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:02:31 GMT

Chupaqueso: /* Lyrics */

[[Image:scc.png|thumb|"It's the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes!"]]
== Detailed Information ==
{{Track information | album = Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits | track number = 9 | length = 56 seconds | artists = Sweet Cuppin' Cakes | style = [[Wikipedia:Theme music|Theme song]] | origin = This is the theme song for [[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]], created in [[crazy cartoon]]}}

== Lyrics ==
'''EVERYONE:''' Oh man! It's the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes!

'''SINGER 1:''' Have you ever watched this show?

'''SINGER 2:''' Just this once, I didn't know

'''SINGER 1:''' How you think this show will go?

'''SINGER 2:''' Take a shot, my friend!

'''SINGER 1:''' I can't see where I am goin'

'''SINGER 2:''' Fighting this is my last name

'''SINGER 1:''' Cartoon friends are just say noin'

'''SINGER 2:''' My friends are back here all the same!

'''EVERYONE:''' Sweet Cuppin' Cakes

'''THE WHEELCHAIR:''' Have you ever watched this show?

'''SHERLOCK:''' {Mumbling}

'''THE WHEELCHAIR:''' How you think this show will go?

'''SHERLOCK:''' {Mumbling}

'''THE WHEELCHAIR:''' I can't see where I am goin'

'''SHERLOCK:''' {Mumbling}

'''THE WHEELCHAIR:''' Cartoon friends are just say noin'

'''SHERLOCK:''' {Mumbling}

'''THE WHEELCHAIR:''' Everybody knows it, everybody knows it, everybody knows it, everybody knows it, everybody knows it, everybody knows it, watch out for Eh! Steve!

'''VOICE[1]:''' Eh! Steve! erm...

[1] - There is some controversy as to the identity of the speaker at the end of the song - it may or may not be Eh! Steve, but it sounds like Singer 1, and it bears a resemblance to [[Homsar]]'s voice, as well.

{{Template:Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits}}

[[Category: Songs]]
[[Category:Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]