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Talk:Strong Bad Email By Length

Boshi — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:20:48 GMT

Boshi: Talk:Strong Bad Email By Length moved to Talk:FUCKING FUCK THE FUCK OF FUCKING FUCKER FUCKS..: Wow. You guys are just lazy. And with no sysop logged in (seemingly), I can troll as much as I want with no concequences! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

==The Table has been completed==
As of 3/27/05 at 1:57 am GMT, the table is completed. Thanks to everyone who helped with timing emails, and with updating the table. --[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 19:08, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Timed==

In addition to updating the untimed emails list, I've timed a few myself (via stopwatch, incidentally). However, I have not included them, as I am unsure of the standard being used. I timed them from the beginning of the email to the end of the email, including Easter eggs for which you wait (although none of these were present in these emails), but not clickable ones. Should this be/become the standard, here are the times I recorded: 4:52-[[dangeresque 3]], 4:05-[[virus]], 4:01-[[animal]], 4:01-[[radio]], 3:25-[[crying]], 3:18-[[pizzaz]], 3:16-[[replacement]], 2:54-[[different town]], 2:36-[[stupid stuff]]. --[[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 17:23, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

==Motivation==
I can understand the desire to track who/where info for the various emails but not length. Could someone explain the need this page fills? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 18:11, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I was curious about what emails were the longest compared to others. If not enough people care about a page like this, it can get deleted. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:04, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

:: May be you could start a page to list emails by their number of words, the sum total "Meh"s of the cheat. you could alweys try to count how many times homestar say stupid stuff compared to homsar, or better yet, make a graph out of it? Why not? --Someone Who Thinks You Guys Have too Much Spare Time On Your Hands

:::And why not create a gigantic Wiki documenting every word of a silly Flash animated website? Oh, wait, that's already been done.

:::And I like graphs. I say, Go For It! :D :D :D [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 21:39, 20 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::The difference is, SWTYGHtMSTOYH, that few are curious about those statistics. However, some probably are curious about the lengths, including me, as well as Joshua up there. By the way, sarcasm doesn't exactly work wonders while attempting to argue a point. [[User:Suicune64|Suicune64]] 17:31, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

Is length really a good measurement? I'm sensing that it's hard to determine. Would something more concrete like filesize be better?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:31, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Length isn't good for being exactly technical, but there are quite a few people out there who apparently find it interesting, like me. That's what you want in a page: interesting information. I don't think file size would be nearly as interesting as length, although it would be more precise. But of course, that's just my own opinion. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:07, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Sounds like marginal interest to me, but who am I to judge. Rock, Rock On guys. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:57, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I like this page. It has some cool and interesting info. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:59, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

== Numbering ==

The numbering system is a bit cumbersome. Say when Email #127 comes out, it falls into the number 15 spot. Then every email after that will have to be manually changed. Is there anyway to uncorporate the "#" shorthand into the table?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I tried just adding the "#" code into the table and it looks like it isn't going to work. Any other way you can think of?
→[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:If it gets too bad the numbers can just be deleted. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 16:10, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

:The numbering hardly takes as long as entering each e-mail... now that the table is complete, it will only take about 10 minutes per e-mail to update, which isn't bad at all. I think the numbers are what make the table, so they shouldn't be removed. --[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 19:07, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Yeah, the numbers need to stay. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:As the poor soul who just added [[long pants]] into the mix, I must respectfully disagree - there has got to be a better way. I'd be willing to eschew the table format in place of clever usage of bold and italics and the like if it meant not having to do that again every week. It's not hard, but it IS dull and easy to screw up, and it IS relatively time-consuming. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 01:09, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Ah ha, I thought so. I found a kind-of solution. By splitting the table into two tables, and putting those tables inside another table, I fixed the problem. It wasn't fun to implement, but from now on it shouldn't be hard to update.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:32, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

::: Hey, that works pretty well. Clever. ''{Jay gives Tom a cookie}'' --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:35, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

==[[sb_email 22]] vs [[vacation]]==

Do we count easter eggs or not? The way I see it, the five postcards are just as much an easter egg as the last half of email 22. Any thoughts? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:58, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

:The list of vacation isn't any more of an easter egg than the links in "one step ahead." They are advertised and obvious to anyone watching. As for the second half of email 22, you'd still have to fish around with the mouse or tab button to find it, making it an easter egg. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

== Table fix? ==

<s>Can someone fix the table so the emails match up with the numbers? I'm no good at table...ing myself. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}</s>

:Okay, guess who just got Firefox? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Combined vs. A and B ==

I strongly recommend that retirement A and B be removed from the time list. Its one SBEmail, not three. We dont need them, especialy since they arent on the site anymore. It wasnt seperate toons, just an interesting way to put them out there - S St.
:Agreed, there are a lot of places where it still remains. You do know you can make edits too, right? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:24, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

== Ties ==

How are we "breaking ties", so to speak? Coming in at 4:01 are both animal] and radio, which I currently have on the spreadsheet as tied for 15th longest (16th once I add retirement to it), but the table offers that animal is longer. I see that we've been going by [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email_By_Length&diff=374112&oldid=374108 number of frames], but has that been consistent? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 23:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
:Flash goes at 12 frames a second as a default. (TGS's 20 being a notable exception.) So if you divide the frame total by 12 you ought to come up with the exact number of seconds in the toon. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:16, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
::But what about the cases where the difference is only one or two and it comes out to the same time? Obviously the one with the extra frames is the longer one, but what I'm asking is did we check that out for every instance of multiple emails with the same time, or do some of them just have the first one alphabetically/chronologically numbered first? I don't mind checking, but if I don't need to spend the time doing it I won't. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:46, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I wonder which would take longer - researching who did the ordering and asking them, or investigating tha source for data. I would probably do the latter. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:53, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
::::The Running Times get added to the toon pages by various people... just whoever gets to it first, usually. Most people probably time them with a stopwatch, so they're probably only accurate to a couple of seconds anyway... The newer few I've done myself by counting frames... I've been meaning to go through all the old ones and do the same, for accuracy's sake. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:44, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::One thing I've always wondered - what exactly is timed? Do we include the Loading screen? Do we include Easter eggs? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:15, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::No and no. Though, for some reason we do include the "waiting" eggs. Basically it's the time it takes for everything under "Transcript" to happen. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:59, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::So, in other words, from the time the Loading screen is gone to the last frame that plays unless you click an Easter egg. I'd also assume we'd exclude, for example, the Homsar scene in [[dragon]], hmm? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:53, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Strong Bad Email By Length

Boshi — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:20:47 GMT

Boshi: Strong Bad Email By Length moved to FUCKING FUCK THE FUCK OF FUCKING FUCKER FUCKS..: Wow. You guys are just lazy. And with no sysop logged in (seemingly), I can troll as much as I want with no concequences! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[[Image:sbemail159a.png|thumb|300px|At nearly 7 minutes in length, "[[retirement (combined)]]" is currently the longest Strong Bad Email.]]
This is a list of every '''[[Strong Bad Email]] in order of length'''.

The shortest [[Tandy 400|Tandy]] era email is [[sb_email 22]] at 0:33, which is also the shortest email of any era. If you include the rather extensive Easter egg to the length, then the shortest Tandy era email becomes [[i rule]] at 0:40, with [[duck pond]] being a very close second. The longest Tandy era email is [[vacation]] at 4:26, due to the combined length of all five postcards. Some don't count this email as being particularly long, since each postcard was a separate update at the time of creation. This makes [[dullard]] at 2:12 the longest Tandy era email released in one part.

The shortest [[Compy 386|Compy]] era email is [[your friends]] at 1:10, and the longest Compy era email is the one hundredth email special [[flashback]] at exactly 5:00.

The shortest [[Lappy 486|Lappy]] era email is myths & legends at 2:54. Briefly, [[retirement B]] at 2:48 was considered the shortest Lappy email; however, the [[retirement (combined)|combined retirement]] email is the longest Lappy email (and the longest overall) at 6:53. At 5:53, [[alternate universe]] is not only the overall longest, but also the longest Lappy era email originally released in one part.

==List==
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{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
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! Length !! Email
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| 6:53 || '''159. [[retirement (combined)]]''' (current longest email, since October 9, 2006)
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| 5:53 || '''150. [[alternate universe]]''' (longest email for 26.9 weeks)
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| 5:00 || '''100. [[flashback]]''' (longest email for 106 weeks)
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| 4:57 || 133. [[bottom 10]]
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| 4:52 || 106. [[dangeresque 3]]
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| 4:44 || 131. [[boring (really)]]
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| 4:26 || '''40. [[vacation]]''' (longest email for 92.6 weeks)
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| 4:25 || 135. [[lady...ing]]
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| 4:23 || 130. [[do over]]
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| 4:18 || 156. [[road trip]]
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| 4:17 || 151. [[senior prom]]
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| 4:15 || 104. [[theme park]]
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| 4:05 || 118. [[virus]]
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| 4:04 || 124. [[secret recipes]]
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| 4:02 || 126. [[best thing]]
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| 4:01 || 119. [[animal]]
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| 4:01 || 120. [[radio]]
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| 4:00 || 93. [[army]]
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| 3:57 || 155. [[theme song]]
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| 3:55 || 122. [[dreamail]]
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| 3:49 || 134. [[record book]]
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| 3:47 || 141. [[death metal]]
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| 3:47 || 153. [[redesign]]
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| 3:44 || 138. [[space program]]
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| 3:43 || 137. [[bedtime story]]
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| 3:42 || 142. [[secret identity]]
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| 3:41 || 128. [[rampage]]
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| 3:39 || DVD bonus: [[Real-Live E-Mails]]
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| 3:39 || 143. [[technology]]
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| 3:38 || 136. [[geddup noise]]
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| 3:37 || 139. [[portrait]]
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| 3:33 || 154. [[keep cool]]
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| 3:29 || 147. [[lady fan]]
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| 3:29 || 121. [[part-time job]]
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| 3:28 || 129. [[garage sale]]
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| 3:28 || 50. [[50 emails]]
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| 3:26 || 157. [[trading cards]]
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| 3:25 || 109. [[crying]]
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| 3:23 || 152. [[isp]]
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| 3:23 || 116. [[extra plug]]
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| 3:21 || 79. [[the process]]
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| 3:21 || 110. [[for kids]]
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| 3:21 || 115. [[time capsule]]
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| 3:21 || 125. [[rock opera]]
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| 3:21 || 158. [[cliffhangers]]
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| 3:19 || 123. [[origins]]
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| 3:18 || 58. [[dragon]]
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| 3:18 || 113. [[pizzaz]]
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| 3:16 || 77. [[suntan]]
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| 3:16 || 105. [[replacement]]
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| 3:16 || 117. [[montage]]
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| 3:13 || 82. [[impression]]
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| 3:11 || 81. [[date]]
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| 3:11 || 146. [[pop-up]]
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| 3:10 || 111. [[other days]]
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| 3:09 || 132. [[modeling]]
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| 3:08 || 148. [[disconnected]]
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| 3:05 || 89. [[local news]]
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| 3:04 || 127. [[long pants]]
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| 3:01 || 88. [[couch patch]]
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| 3:01 || 140. [[highschool]]
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| 3:00 || 94. [[video games]]
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| 3:00 || 144. [[narrator]]
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| 2:58 || 149. [[candy product]]
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| 2:57 || 103. [[haircut]]
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| 2:54 || 145. [[myths & legends]]
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| 2:53 || 99. [[different town]]
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| 2:53 || 114. [[the facts]]
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| 2:52 || 101. [[car]]
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| 2:51 || 102. [[lunch special]]
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| 2:50 || 68. [[caper]]
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| 2:47 || 83. [[labor day]]
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| 2:43 || 67. [[autobiography]]
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| 2:42 || 96. [[lackey]]
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| 2:38 || 70. [[big white face]]
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| 2:38 || 72. [[crazy cartoon]]
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| 2:38 || 91. [[caffeine]]
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| 2:37 || 95. [[the bet]]
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| 2:35 || 66. [[the show]]
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| 2:35 || 92. [[kind of cool]]
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| 2:35 || 98. [[stupid stuff]]
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| 2:34 || 60. [[huttah!]]
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| 2:32 || 112. [[old comics]]
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| 2:32 || 107. [[cheatday]]
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| 2:32 || DVD #4: [[Family Resemblence]]
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| 2:26 || 71. [[2 emails]]
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| 2:25 || 87. [[mile]]
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| 2:25 || 108. [[pom pom]]
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| 2:24 || 48. [[ghosts]]
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| 2:23 || 85. [[2 years]]
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| 2:22 || 74. [[privileges]]
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| 2:20 || 69. [[personal favorites]]
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| 2:19 || 75. [[funny]]
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| 2:17 || 80. [[stunt double]]
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| 2:15 || 76. [[sibbie]]
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| 2:14 || 59. [[marzipan]]
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| 2:12 || '''37. [[dullard]]''' (longest email for 2.9 weeks)
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| 2:12 || 78. [[anything]]
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| 2:10 || 62. [[interview]]
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| 2:10 || 64. [[english paper]]
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| 2:08 || 55. [[cheat talk]]
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| 2:08 || 63. [[fingers]]
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| 2:06 || 97. [[monument]]
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| 2:02 || '''28. [[1 step ahead]]''' (longest email for 9.1 weeks)
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| 2:01 || 57. [[japanese cartoon]]
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| 2:01 || 84. [[kids' book]]
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| 2:00 || 32. [[flag day]]
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| 2:00 || 73. [[mascot]]
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| 1:56 || 52. [[island]]
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| 1:56 || 90. [[colonization]]
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| 1:53 || 51. [[website]]
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| 1:53 || 86. [[no loafing]]
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| 1:48 || 49. [[theme party]]
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| 1:47 || 31. [[sugarbob]]
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| 1:47 || 41. [[invisibility]]
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| 1:44 || 42. [[action figure]]
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| 1:44 || 44. [[lures & jigs]]
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| 1:43 || '''21. [[cartoon]]''' (longest email for 5.9 weeks)
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| 1:41 || 61. [[monster truck]]
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| 1:40 || 35. [[sisters]]
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| 1:40 || 53. [[comic]]
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| 1:38 || 27. [[3 Wishes]]
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| 1:38 || 65. [[unused emails]]
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| 1:37 || DVD #3: [[Videro Games]]
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| 1:35 || 47. [[new hands]]
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| 1:29 || 38. [[helium]]
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| 1:27 || 54. [[morning routine]]
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| 1:26 || '''18. [[stand-up]]''' (longest email for 3 weeks)
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| 1:25 || 20. [[spring cleaning]]
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| 1:20 || 36. [[guitar]]
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| 1:20 || DVD #1: [[Greeting Cards]]
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| 1:17 || '''12. [[credit card]]''' (longest email for 6 weeks)
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| 1:17 || 24. [[the bird]]
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| 1:17 || 34. [[weird dream]]
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| 1:17 || 39. [[property of ones]]
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| 1:16 || 25. [[super powers]]
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| 1:15 || 33. [[gimmicks]]
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| 1:13 || '''7. [[halloweener]]''' (longest email for 10.5 weeks)
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| 1:13 || 45. [[techno]]
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| 1:13 || 56. [[current status]]
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| 1:12 || 16. [[band names]]
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| 1:12 || 43. [[little questions]]
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| 1:11 || 17. [[studying]]
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| 1:10 || 13. [[i she be]]
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| 1:10 || 30. [[12:00]]
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| 1:10 || 46. [[your friends]]
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| 1:09 || 26. [[CGNU]]
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| 1:07 || 15. [[the basics]]
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| 1:07 || 29. [[superhero name]]
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| 1:05 || 10. [[trevor the vampire]]
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| 1:02 || DVD #2: [[E-mail Birds]]
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| 0:58 || '''3. [[butt IQ]]'''
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| 0:58 || 5. [[making out]]
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| 0:58 || 19. [[tape-leg]]
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| 0:56 || 4. [[homestar hair]]
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| 0:55 || 9. [[i love you]]
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| 0:54 || 23. [[little animal]]
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| 0:52 || 6. [[depressio]]
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| 0:51 || 8. [[brianrietta]]
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| 0:45 || '''1. [[some kinda robot]]'''
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| 0:43 || 2. [[homsar]]
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| 0:40 || 14. [[duck pond]]
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| 0:40 || 11. [[i rule]]
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| 0:33 || 22. [[sb_email 22]]
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Talk:Cold Hard Flash Interview - 1 Dec 2005

Boshi — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:17:02 GMT

Boshi: Talk:Cold Hard Flash Interview - 1 Dec 2005 moved to Talk:FUCKING FUCK THE FUCK OF FUCKING FUCKER FUCKS?!?: I'm gonna see if you guys have actually done ANYTHING.

==Permission==
Sorry for swiping your job (and your form letter), Thunderbird, but I wanted to get this up quickly...
<blockquote>Hello, I am an administrator at the Homestar Runner Wiki. I am emailing you in connection with the interview that you conducted with the Creators of Homestarrunner.com. My question is wheather or not you would allow me to reprint the interview on our website, namely here: http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Interviews_and_Public_Appearances Of course the creator would be given complete credit, along with a link to the original interview. Please let us know whether we can use this or not. 
Thank you, 
===== 
Phillip Bradbury 
P.S. Thank you for the plug, we're happy to be of service.</blockquote>
<blockquote>of course! phenomenal site! 
best, 
aaron</blockquote>
<blockquote>Thanks a lot. One thing... do you happen to remember the date the interview took place? It's not vital, but we like to include details like this. 
===== 
Phlip</blockquote>
<blockquote>the phone interview took place on December 1st, 2005.</blockquote>
So... yeah. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:Love this interview. :) —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
::I agree, new interviews are always nice. Too bad they didn't ask about Level 10, but such is life. No offence taken Phlip, thanks for stepping in, and liking my letter enough to copy it. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

== Alexa ==

Why is there Alexa data for 8 months after the interview tucked into the interview? Was it like this in the original source? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:The interview took place on the first of December, but the article was only posted around a week ago. So yes, that data was in [http://www.coldhardflash.com/2006/10/homestars-show-runners-part-1.html the original source]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:44, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Cold Hard Flash Interview - 1 Dec 2005

Boshi — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:17:01 GMT

Boshi: Cold Hard Flash Interview - 1 Dec 2005 moved to FUCKING FUCK THE FUCK OF FUCKING FUCKER FUCKS?!?: I'm gonna see if you guys have actually done ANYTHING.

Some time in Winter 2005, [[The Brothers Chaps]] were interviewed by [[Wikipedia:Aaron Simpson|Aaron Simpson]] of [[Wikipedia:Cold Hard Flash|Cold Hard Flash]].

==Transcript==
{{uncensored|Cold Hard Flash Interview (censored)}}
===Part 1===
Mike and Matt Chapman, hailing from Decatur, Georgia, have built themselves the equivalent of animation dream jobs. They write, voice and animate for a living - and distribute exactly what they want, when they want, to millions of people. It's an incredible achievement, and one that defies entertainment convention.

Early on in their web-careers, the Brothers Chaps, as Mike and Matt have come to be known, opted to go without advertising on their site. But don't worry - [[HR:|homestarrunner.com]] has given them complete financial independence, solely through [[HRStore:|merchandise and DVD sales]]. It's allowed the brothers an unusual amount of creative control for a hit series. But instead of using this freedom to break all the rules, they went against the grain. Since the mid-90's, shock-value has driven millions of eyeballs to dozens of gross-out web shows and too-nuts-for-TV clips. Shirking convention, Homestar Runner and his pals are more G than some shows on [http://www.nickjr.com/ Nick Jr.], but it surely hasn't halted their success one bit.

Perhaps it's because Mike, 33, and Matt, 29, the creators of such characters as Homestar Runner and Strong Bad, are family-oriented. At the [http://www.flashforwardconference.com/ Flashforward Conference] this past February, [[Flashforward Interview - 10 Feb 2006|they concede]] that their "sister, dad and mom, and uh, inlaws" all get into the act; working in the Homestar Runner store and helping out around the office. Growing up, Mike and Matt's parents, Don and Harriet Chapman, were reportedly always quite supportive of their creative endeavors, and ever since 1999, the brother's family-friendly tastes have attracted a feverishly loyal following.

Now, let's get to that following for a minute or two. Their website, homestarrunner.com, is visited by hundreds of thousands of people a day. But the brothers supposedly don't know if it's 100,000 a day or 200,000, nor do they really care. You see, while other web companies and animators comb through the number of 'uniques' they get a day, The Brothers Chaps are busy ''being'' unique.

However, that won't stop the CHF research team (me), who spent tens of minutes scouring the web to come up with rough, unverified statistics. Drumroll, please....according to web-stats giant [http://alexa.com/ Alexa.com], Homestarrunner.com gets more traffic than starwars.com, pixar.com, southparkstudios.com, thesimpsons.com and handful of other high-profile animation websites.

{| border="1" align="center" cellpadding="3" style="border-collapse: collapse"
! WEBSITE !! ALEXA RANK (on 08/06/06)
|-
| [[HR:|homestarrunner.com]]: || style="text-align: right" | 4,050
|-
| [http://starwars.com/ starwars.com]: || style="text-align: right" | 4,207
|-
| [http://www.noggin.com/ noggin.com]: || style="text-align: right" | 6,215
|-
| [http://www.adultswim.com/ adultswim.com]: || style="text-align: right" | 6,292
|-
| [http://mondo.happytreefriends.com/ happytreefriends.com]: || style="text-align: right" | 9,046
|-
| [http://www.pixar.com/ pixar.com]: || style="text-align: right" | 13,127
|-
| [http://pokemon.com/ pokemon.com]: || style="text-align: right" | 15,692
|-
| [http://www.southparkstudios.com/show/display_faq_search.php?section=2&id=38887&search_faq= southparkstudios.com]: || style="text-align: right" | 22,204
|-
| [http://dragonballz.com/ dragonballz.com]: || style="text-align: right" | 26,774
|-
| [http://awn.com/ awn.com]: || style="text-align: right" | 27,716
|-
| [http://thesimpsons.com/ thesimpsons.com]: || style="text-align: right" | 29,574
|-
| [[Main Page|hrwiki.org]]: || style="text-align: right" | 35,203
|}

In fact, the [[Main Page|Homestar Runner Wiki]], the collaboratively-run, online encyclopedia of everything Homestar, gets almost as much traffic at thesimpsons.com (more on the HRWiki in a moment).

But for how many fans they have (the same fans that send in over 3,000 emails a day), The Brothers Chaps have somehow avoided being heralded with awards and honors. Mike and Matt would probably say that they could care less (and that's probably true), but it's symbolic of how independent they've remained. They don't have agents, managers or press buffers. They turn down TV execs holding deals as if they were pan-handlers. The Brothers Chaps are Hollywood 2.0 - blessed with a huge audience, creative freedom, popular merchandise, and an address far from Hollywood.

Speaking of merchandise - the entire Homestar Runner empire is operated entirely off of DVD and merchandise moolah, and with hysterical products like [[HRStore:horufi.html|The Cheat Commando Figurines]], it's easy to see why. In fact, one of the more popular threads at the HRWiki Homestar Runner message board is titled '[[Forum:179|merchandise wishes]].' And if you're wondering what all of thee rabid fans are buying, The Brothers Chaps have shared that the [[HRStore:trbu.html|Trogdor t-shirt]] is their best selling item, but their many [[HRStore:stbademdvd.html|DVD releases]] (see the [http://www.coldhardflash.com/2005/03/strongbad-dvd-is-strong-good.html CHF review]) can't be far behind.

So what's their secret? Well, it's not the software. While Mike and Matt have always used Flash to make their many shorts, they famously don't keep up with the latest versions, and their proud of it. Perhaps the secret lies in their ability to loose themselves in the work. With no sprawling production teams to hire, no Hollywood hobnobbing to suffer through and no agents to please, The Brothers Chaps can just focus on the funny. There's a moment in the interview below, where Matt, the puppeteer in the family, explains his mental state during one of his live puppet recordings. He felt he "wasn't even there." This zen-like creative groove is just the thing Hollywood distractions so easily destroy.

Onward to the interview. Before we get this rolling, I'd like to thank the gang over at the [[Main Page|Homestar Runner Wiki]], whose carefully assembled database helped me immensely in researching this article.

So without further adieu, here's the phone interview I conducted back in the Winter of 2005 (Hey - I got busy!). It's a two-parter, starting with Mike.

'''AARON SIMPSON:''' How do you guys decide who does what on the short.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' As far as writing goes, we'll talk about what ideas we have. Usually the project timeline is very short, and we'll quickly get the broad strokes down. At that point we usually go take a stab at writing it separately. We both know the main points of the story, and then we take a look at those, and decide that his part works here and my part here. Then Matt goes and records all the voices and when he's doing that, I'm generally blocking the scenes. If I know there's going to be a scene when Strong Bad is in space, I'll go and get those background graphics together. And then once the audio is done, we basically split up the scenes. Matt is the better animator, so if there's scenes that actually have some action going on, he'll usually do those. And if a scene just has characters talking, I'll do those - like Strong Bad at his computer. I mean I can animate okay, but Matt generally will spend more time on each shot, and his little flourishes will look a little better. I'm more likely to have the characters just say their lines.

So after we finish ours scenes, we combine them, look at it, and make changes. For instance, we'll cut the line in half, add sound effects, or move a punch around. The last few hours are making changes like that.

'''AARON:''' Were you guys creatively collaborating earlier in your lives, before Homestar?

'''MIKE:''' Definitely. We grew up drawing, making comic books, making Super 8 movies in the mid-80s, and then we worked with a video camera. So, yes, we've collaborated pretty much all of our lives.

'''AARON:''' I know how brothers can get competitive. Does that ever get in the way of your creative process?

'''MIKE:''' When we were growing up, I definitely used to beat the shit out of Matt. But from a creative standpoint, we don't really ever get carried away. And if there is a part where Matt or I don't like the direction it's going, we just say it - "no I think that sucks, that's not funny. Let's do it this way." And we usually agree on everything, which makes it easy.

'''AARON:''' Have you ever considered passing some of the animation duties on to others?

'''MIKE:''' No, I think if we were gonna do that, we would have done it by now. Years ago, we'd always said that that animation would be the first thing to pass off. For me, that's the part I'm not as excited about. Writing is great, I love illustrating - but animation is especially boring. But since we've been doing it this way, at this point it would be a few steps backwards to get someone else in here. If we were going to do some other project, and start from scratch, we might look at that, but at this point probably not.

'''AARON:''' Is there an certain aspect of your work that's currently getting the most attention?

'''MIKE:''' For me, it's stuff with a unique visual style. Some people in the audience may notice that recently we've been paying more attention to the visual style.

'''AARON:''' Between your games, puppet shorts and the DVDs - which takes the most time to make?

'''MIKE:''' The DVD stuff definitely takes a lot of time. Especially the first time - we hired a friend ([[Ryan Sterritt]]) of ours to help make it. We basically had to learn from start to finish. It worked out great, and now we have a really great DVD author on our team of only 3 people.

'''AARON:''' What was the process like getting the shorts to DVD?

'''MIKE:''' It was around 6 months into the process, and we were watching some test DVDs and they just weren't cutting it. They were pixely and the colors weren't right, and at that point, we essentially started over. There's a program called [http://www.flashants.com/root/swf2video.shtml SWF2Video] that really helped us finish, and then we color corrected in [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?link_code=ur2&camp=1789&tag=coldhardflash-20&creative=9325&path=ASIN/B00005UMC6/qid=1117915336/sr=2-3/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_3 After Effects].

'''AARON:''' And those DVDs are packed with Easter eggs...

'''MIKE:''' Ya, it would have been impossible to hire a company to do all that. There are just so many little nuances and hidden Easter eggs in the DVD. I'm sure Ryan (Sterritt - the DVD author) hates it but sometimes he'll author the DVD in some way, and in the last week, we'll say "you know what, this interface is going to change." And if he wasn't sitting right next to us, that would have been a pain in the ass.

'''AARON:''' How did you guys first team up with the band [http://www.tmbg.com/ They Might Be Giants]?

'''MIKE:''' Actually John Linnell emailed us. Before that, a fan sent us a picture of them with John Flansburgh, and he was wearing a Homestar shirt. And six months after that, John Linnell emailed and said he was a big fan and suggested we could maybe collaborate. It didn't hurt that I'd been a huge TMBG fan ever since college.

'''AARON:''' Of the 2 of you, who is the puppeteer?

'''MIKE:''' Matt, mostly. Primarily, because he does the voices, and most of it is ad-libbed.

'''AARON:''' You've been lauded on the internet, radio and TV for having an internet show that's relatively family-friendly. Have you ever gotten phone calls or emails complaining about the subject manner in your cartoons?

'''MIKE:''' Ya, there's always people. We'll get someone who misinterprets a short and emails us "what's up with the gay bashing?" So we'd send back an email, and it ends up being a 13 year old girl, and we explain the issue. And then she'll email back saying "you know, you're right." We've done that a few times, where people have sent us really angry emails. We'll email back: "No wait - calm down. This is what we're talking about."

'''AARON:''' I'm sure you get approached by a fair amount of people wanting to partner up. Is there one offer that was more outrageous than the rest?

'''MIKE:''' We get tons of cell phone offers - for ringtones and mobile-episodes. These people just don't get it. We're scratching our heads - have you even looked at our site? We'd never do that. It's the grossest thing I could think of - selling one minute [[HR:sbemail.html|Strong Bad Emails]] for cell phones. These people say "you'd be surprised, people would do it." And we're thinking that's not the point - we know people will do it. We don't want them to do it.

Oh, and there was one caller who wanted to give us $10,000 a month for banner ads or something. And you know someone had just tipped them off - "Hey, you should check out this Homestar site." And they look at it for 5 minutes and call us, "We like your Strongman character."

'''AARON:''' Have you ever had fans try to locate your office and try to swing by?

'''MIKE:''' There have been a few people peek through the blinds. We're right next to a bowling alley and one day someone saw all the Homestar stuff in our office and knocked on the door. They asked us if we were big Homestar fans.

'''AARON:''' How was your experience at [[Bobby Blackwolf Interview - 5 Sep 2005|Dragon*Con]]?

'''MIKE:''' We've never been to a 'Con before. We'd always shied away from those because of the fanboy aspect of them. But it was alot of fun. Far less creepy and far more fun that we'd imagined.

'''AARON:''' Do you think any of your projects will move onto another platform? Maybe a broadband show or perhaps a video game.

'''MIKE:''' I don't think it's gonna happen. The way we do things is very immediate - we make cartoons and put them up three days later. There's very few projects we do that are long term, but I'd say doing a video game, or something for Gameboy - that would be something that we'd be interested in doing. But we've never licensed our stuff out, and we'd have to do it in-house, and the timeline would have to be quick. But I really don't think that's gonna happen.

===Part 2===
'''AARON SIMPSON:''' Do you think most people find the Easter eggs on your DVDs?

'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' We've met people who've seen 60 or 70 [[HR:sbemail.html|Strong Bad Emails]] and we'll mention the Easter eggs and they're like "wait, you guys hide stuff in them?" For years now, we've been checking the fan forums to make sure people were finding them. But the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ Message Board] fans are the super Homestar nerds, and we sort of took it for granted that everyone knew there were hidden things.

'''AARON:''' You just released a new DVD.

'''MATT:''' We're calling it '[[HRStore:stbademdvd.html|Everything Else: Volume 1]].' It's all the shorter cartoons. Volume 2 will feature the [[Toons#Big Toons|Big Toons]] and other stuff like the Halloween shorts.

'''AARON:''' What made you want to put out DVDs in the first place?

'''MATT:''' Several fans had said we should put our stuff on DVD so they could watch the animations on their TV and not have to get on the web all the time. Plus, we were realizing that things aren't going to last forever, so just for our own archival portfolio, it's a nice way to preserve all that stuff.

'''AARON:''' Do you have plans to release your work in any of the new disc formats?

'''MATT:''' Well, with [http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?link_code=ur2&tag=coldhardflash-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&location=%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2FB000CS3S4A%2Fsr%3D1-1%2Fqid%3D1156343636%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_1%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dsoftware Flash] because it's all vector, you can export to whatever size you want. Our process works like this - first we make an uncompressed AVI that just looks gorgeous. But, for instance, a [[HR:sbemail.html|Strong Bad Email]] will be about 10 gigs. To get it onto a DVD you have to use so much compression, and we end up with some loss and artifacting. To test these things we have this really old shitty DVD player, and then we have a DV-out into an HDTV - it's the low end and the high end. And when we started looking at our stuff on this really nice set-up we quickly saw some artifacting. It was discouraging, but then we'd watch it on a regular TV and it would look really good. So I popped in one of the 'Lord of the Rings' DVDs and watched it on the same HD setup, and even there we could see some artifacting. I guess its just a necessary evil of DVD compression. So maybe we could put out perfect versions of each Strong Bad Email as a 100 DVD set.

'''AARON:''' Is there a character you find most fun to animate?

'''MATT:''' I'd say Homestar. For one, he's got no arms, which is great. And his head is simple - a closed mouth, an open mouth and an 'Oh' circle mouth. So it's really easy to make him talk. Mike will tell you that if you see a scene and Homestar just sits there and talks - he animated that. If Homestar is talking and waggling all around and talking - that's me. It's fun to force yourself to get emotion from such a simple character. Homestar is essentially a glorified stick figure.

'''AARON:''' What kind of animation tricks are you using now that you weren't doing 6 or 7 years ago.

'''MATT:''' Early on, we relied on motion tweens, where you'd set point A and B, and the software would fill in the blanks. Now we're much closer to doing frame by frame animation. Beyond that, we're always trying new graphic styles - bringing in a blurred JPG background and then we'll do a rack-focus. We've been doing that for years, but if you look back at the earlier ones, we weren't animating quite as much. And now the quality has gone up a little bit more, but the time we've put into it has tripled.

'''AARON:''' There must be thousands of symbols and assets in the Homestar Flash library.

'''MATT:''' We're actually pretty bad at archiving all the artwork. We actually do have a couple master libraries filled with all the parts of each character. During the production of a cartoon, we'll make a new Strong Bad glove that looks a little better, or animates easier, but we'll forget that we did that. So when we go to make a new cartoon, we'll forget that me made that new asset. So we have to start searching.

There's a symbol of [[HR:vcr_cheat.html|The Cheat]] - a reverse view - that's the same one we've been using for 4 or 5 years - and it's terrible! His proportions are off - he's way skinnier than the Cheat should be - and the line is real chunky. I think Mike drew it and scanned it in and then traced the bitmap - which we don't do anymore. We draw everything right into Flash. So it's really kinda gross looking. Over the summer, we made a new one - but we keep forgetting where that new one is saved. We need to organize them better. We should get an intern or something.

'''AARON:''' How do you currently go about finding props or backgrounds from old episodes?

'''MATT:''' It's funny - we ended up using a really exhaustive fan site - the [[Main Page|Homestar Runner Wiki]]. We'll be asking ourselves, "when did we make the orange spoon?" The Wiki is a searchable database, so we'll just search for 'orange spoon,' and it pops right up - "it's in Strong Bad Email #63." And then we noticed the Wiki was having a pledge drive so we donated to it. We probably use it more than the fans do so we figured we should try to keep it alive.

'''AARON:''' You still use Flash 5. Why is this the best version for your production process?

'''MATT:''' It's the way you can select colors and frames. And Flash 5 is the best for lip-syncing. When you click on a frame in Flash 5, you hear that exact frame of sound, which makes it real easy to animate. We tinkered around with Flash 8 and couldn't get it do work the way it does in 5, so we stopped messing around with it. We've had people tell us they could get Flash 8 to work exactly like Flash 5, but who knows.

We got to talking to the Flash developers, the guys who actually make the software - and it was awesome. Sort of like meeting your makers. But it was funny, they put it us a beta test team for Flash 8 along with developers and information architects, and we didn't understand a thing they were talking about. We'd just email them asking "can you make it more like Flash 5?"

'''AARON:''' People seem fascinated that you don't have advertising on your site. What's your reaction to that?

'''MATT:''' I'm surprised that they're surprised. When we started, we knew we were taking a risk, as it seemed like every site needed advertising to get by. But at that point, we weren't trying to make Homestar into a business. Looking at the industry, I wish our no-banner ad stance had caught on more, especially now that ads are sneakier than ever.

'''AARON:''' Had you done any puppetry before the Homestar puppet shorts?

'''MATT:''' No, we'd never really done any puppetry - at least no more than a kid does growing up. We just have a friend who is a puppeteer and makes puppets. We've always thought all along that there were these different Homestar universes. Like there's an [[HR:old.html|old 1930s version]] (click the reels) of the cartoon, and there's the [[HR:stinkogame/v7/stinkogame.html|Stinkoman Japanese version]] of it. So we chose the Pee-wee's Playhouse-style variety show to mess with. We keep the length of these around a minute, because of bandwidth issues. A 6-minute Flash cartoon can be 1.5 mbs, but with video, a minute ends up being about 1mb.

But we think we've only scratched the surface of what we'd really like to do with the puppets. We could make some hilarious set, and have a human host and group of kids - I don't know.

'''AARON:''' Tell us about Homestar's day hanging out with [http://www.tmbg.com/ They Might Be Giants].

'''MATT:''' I don't even remember [[HR:puppetjam3.html|that day]]. Because I was mostly interacting with the band through a puppet. I think of that whole experience through Homestar's eyes and when I watch that stuff, I feel like I wasn't even there.

We occasionally email back and forth with John and John. Hopefully we'll find a way to collaborate again in the future.

'''AARON:''' Do you ever get fan animated stuff that appeals for you?

'''MATT:''' We've gotten a couple things over the years. As they say "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery," but some of these submissions were from really young kids - like 12 year olds. So they're just learning Flash, and it's awesome. And if making your own Homestar fan cartoons is the way you want to learn Flash, then do it. But Mike gets cringy and embarrassed watching some of them.

We're not trying to sound spoiled, or "people like our stuff so much that they're making these things for us." I guess it's dealing with the geek factor. There's people that like your stuff so much and it's just kind of overwhelming and hard to deal with. But on the other hand, there's plenty of fan pieces like [[HR:cheatvideo.html|The Cheat Theme Song]]. It was a song made by fans from Alabama who call themselves [http://www.geocities.com/theskateparty/ The Skate Party]. It was hilarious. It sounded exactly like something we would do. For the longest time people thought it was us, which was great.

There's also an acappella group called [http://www.bulletproofartists.com/onlinestore/category.cfm?Category=18 DaVinci's Notebook] that did an old-timey barbershop song called '[[HR:sneakvideo.html|The Ballad of The Sneak]]'. So there's both ends of the spectrum - some of the stuff is exactly what we would have done or better, and we actually want to use it or collaborate, and then there's the other stuff.

But for the most part, we kind of stay away from the fan stuff - it's a combination of being afraid that it will be bad and we'll feel bad about not liking it. And then what if it's even better and funnier than what we're doing?

'''AARON:''' Would you see yourselves doing this 20 years later?

'''MATT:''' Definitely. If not exactly this, then something like it. Our work is mainly short form, and when we feel Strong Bad Emails are getting old, we can quickly jump into something else. Anytime we talk about wanting to do some other projects, we figure we'll do it the same kind of way - put a few years into it, put it on the web, and if it's good then people will start coming.

But this is as good as it gets, you know, the fact that we make a Flash cartoon for a living. Look at '[http://www.happytreefriends.com/ Happy Tree Friends]' - you can [http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?categoryid=cat02031&id=1457784&skuid=7425994&type=product&DCMP=KNC-TLC&ref=25&loc=MOV buy their DVDs] in Best Buy. Those guys have distribution deals. We just don't want to deal with agents and managers. The fact that we're supporting ourselves and we get to hire friends and family is amazing.

==External Links==
*[http://www.coldhardflash.com/2006/10/homestars-show-runners-part-1.html Part 1 of the interview]
*[http://www.coldhardflash.com/2006/10/homestars-show-runners-part-2.html Part 2 of the interview]

[[Category:Interviews and Public Appearances]]

Heavy Metal

Boshi — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:15:39 GMT

Boshi: Heavy Metal moved to FUCKING FUCK THE FUCK OF FUCKING FUCKER FUCKS...

[[Image:Limozeen photo.PNG|thumb|Because it's midnite!]]

'''[[Wikipedia:Heavy metal music|Heavy metal]]''', particularly [[Wikipedia:Glam metal|glam metal]] and [[Wikipedia:Death Metal|death metal]], plays a big part in the culture of [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]], particularly in the life of [[Strong Bad]]. There are characters and events in the world, from the existence of [[Limozeen]] to Strong Bad's personal endeavors into the genre with songs such as [[Trogdor (song)|Trogdor]], and there are also many minor references, on the level of both the characters and the viewers.

==Limozeen==
Limozeen themselves are the source of multiple references to heavy metal, as well as being a reference in themselves.
*The original picture of the band, as seen in [[monster truck]], is comprised of four photos of [[The Brothers Chaps]]' older brother [[Donnie Chapman|Donnie]], dressed as Vince Neil for Halloween [[1987]]. Vince Neil is best known as the frontman for [[Wikipedia:Mötley Crüe|Mötley Crüe]], a notorious hair-metal band.
*Limozeen would shortly be developed in character, and would move away from the Motley Crüe inspiration, becoming a parody of less heavy hair bands, chiefly [[Wikipedia:Poison (band)|Poison]] and their lead singer, Bret Michaels.

==Taranchula==
Judging by the musical style of the [[Taranchula]] song [[Moving Very Slowly]], it is evident that they were at first designed to be a parody of the Thrash Metal movement, chiefly [[Wikipedia:Metallica|Metallica]]. However, as the character of the band developed, as with Limozeen, Taranchula also went in a different direction, and is now a parody of the many [[Wikipedia:Death Metal|Death Metal]] bands from Scandinavia and the surrounding territories. [[Wikipedia:Immortal (band)|Immortal]] seem to be a big inspiration in particular.

==Miscellaneous References==
*[[Main Page 4]]— a red bowling ball with black and white stripes can be seen by hovering over the Toons button. This is an obvious reference to [[Wikipedia:Van Halen|Van Halen]] and, more specifically, the band's guitarist and namesake Eddie Van Halen, who famously plays guitars and wears attire that sports this motif. The pattern was also used on the cover of their recent compilation, [[Wikipedia:The Best of Both Worlds (Van Halen album)|The Best of Both Worlds]].
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]— [[Cheerleader]] is seen with a heart-shaped, triple-necked guitar, identical to that which space-age guitar hero [[Wikipedia:Steve Vai|Steve Vai]]had [http://www.vai.com/Machines/guitarpages/guitar041.html custom built].
*Email [[space program]]— [[The Strong Badian Administration of Some Aluminum Foil|SBASAF]]'s flagship is known as the Proud Anselmo, a reference to Phil Anselmo, controversial frontman of the band [[Wikipedia:Pantera|Pantera]].
**Also in space program, Strong Bad makes a reference to a "space alien from Satriani 5". Satriani 5 is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Joe Satriani|Joe Satriani]], a multi Grammy nominee and pioneer of instrumental guitar rock. He is also known to have taught many other famous guitar players, such as [[Wikipedia:Kirk Hammett|Kirk Hammett]] and [[Wikipedia:Steve Vai|Steve Vai]].
*Email [[garage sale]]— Strong Bad refers to the email sender Cat as Catman. While there are other explanations, it's likely that this is a nod to [[Wikipedia:Peter Criss|Peter Criss]], the former drummer of the band [[Wikipedia:KISS (band)|KISS]], whose stage name was Catman.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]— The TGS creates a metal band called [[Kissyboots]].
*Email [[personal favorites]]- the theme song includes some hot metal guitar lixx
*[[Strong Sad's Lament]]- many of his tunes are metal or rock songs
*Email [[flashback]]- Opening is a rock song. Limozeen congratulates Strong Bad on his 100th email.
*Email [[different town]]- Strong Bad says that "Marzipan would rock"
*[[Cool Tapes]]- Strong Mad plays bass, giving it a rock edge
*Email [[band names]]- Strong Bad gives possible names for metal bands.
*Email [[death metal]]- Strong Bad gives his description of the elements of the genre.
*[[Cheatar]]- The Cheat "has turned into a giant guitar". Pictures can also be seen of heavy metal artists holding the guitar. The guitar was also reportably featured at the [[Wikipedia: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame|Rock and Roll Hall of Fame]].
*Email: [[portrait]]- Strong Bad's muscular cutout features a "[[keyswordtar]]".
*Email: [[rock opera]]- Strong Bad performs a rock opera. One of the lyrics is "I totally always look awesome singing backwards metal."
*Email: [[cliffhangers]]- Glam rocker [[Wikipedia: Lita Ford|Lita Ford]] is mentioned, and Malmsteen's Comet is a reference to a member of the neo-classical metal guitarist [[Wikipedia: Yngwie Malmsteen|Yngwie Malmsteen]] along with the album Freshley's Comet.
[[Category:Inside Jokes]]

Talk:The System is Down

Boshi — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:14:27 GMT

Boshi: Talk:The System is Down moved to Talk:FUCKING FUCK THE FUCK OF FUCKING FUCKER FUCKS!?: MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Although the "Is" should capitalized by rights in the title of this article, the title in the Toons menu on the Homestar Runner site puts it in lower case. Hence, the title of this article should remain "The System is Down". --[[User:Render|Render]] 04:53, 21 Sep 2004 (MST)
==Preview==
On the toons menu preview of the cartoon it shows Homestar running past the 404 error. Should that be added to trivia? [[User:Sesshoumaru Cian|Sesshoumaru Cian]] 09:16, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
==SoaD reference?==

I think The System is Down might very well by a reference to the herd rock band "System of a Down". (note: big fan here.) --[[User:12.202.214.217|12.202.214.217]] 15:56, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I think it may be just a referance to the e-mail [[techno]], but you never know. Maybe that could go under a "fun fact." {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 20:50, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::I'm pretty sure it's talking about a system... being down... {{User:Camalex/sig}} 20:52, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== difficulties ==

Ok, you removed the system is down goof i added, let me explain where I found it. First click on the Flash file for the cartoon, then read the first paragraph, you will eventually get to the word "difficulties" which is missing the "u" and the "l" is small, and capitalized. If you don't notice this, i don't know what to say...
Now go to the other place wher you can view this cartoon (the link from homestarrunner.com, the toons menu), read that same paragraph, and the word "difficulties" will be spelled correctly. For some reason, it is wrong on the Flash file...

Again, if you don't see this, I don't know what to say except...I guess I am looking at it wrong (?).

Anyways,
Tell me if you can notice it now...bye

:You're looking at it wrong. The .html file uses the .swf file, so it's not possible for them to be different. Try resizing the window and see what happens. Or zoom in. It's definitely spelled correctly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:06, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::P.S. Don't forget to sign your name. The best way to do it is to type four tildes after your message, like this: <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>

:Could be due to the low-quality setting (i.e. no anti-aliasing) on the image. It causes lines of pixels to double or vanish, depending on your window size. Resize your window and I’m sure you’d notice other “goofs”. —anonymous (do I have an account?)

== dvd transcript ==

"Sass dackery"... shouldn't that be "Sass Daquiri"? I don't drink, but I think if all you have to go on is phoenetics, he might be saying the actual word. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 03:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:I transcribed it; I didn't know what they were talking about. I tried searching my head, google, spell check, for the most probable way to spell it. Sass Daquiri is probably what he's saying. By all means, go ahead and change it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

== Do ya tink this should be peoples error pages? ==

Well, If we could change the URL for our error page we could download the swf and then when you get error ta-da! It would be a cool idea huh?
:Isn't that a copyright infringement or something like that? It might not be legal to make this cartoon our 404 error page. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

The System is Down

Boshi — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:14:27 GMT

Boshi: The System is Down moved to FUCKING FUCK THE FUCK OF FUCKING FUCKER FUCKS!?: MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

{{toonnav|Shorts|systemisdown|Meet Marshie|20X6 vs. 1936}}
:''This is for the toon The System is Down. For the song, please see [[The System Is Down (song)]].''

[[Image:systemisdown.png|200px|thumb|"The system is down, yo."]]

In January of 2003, the [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]] web site suddenly and inexplicably went down. Patient viewers then saw this short toon, cleverly disguised as an error page.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}

'''Places:''' [[Error Page]]

'''Date:''' January 22, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 1:05

'''Page Title:''' 404 Doodoo Error

== Transcript ==
''{A typical Internet Explorer error page appears. The whistling of the wind is heard. Homestar Runner enters from the right.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{walks in and looks at the error message}'' Ummmm... what's going on here? What happened to my website?

''{Strong Bad enters from the left.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The system is down, yo.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ohh...the system... Right, right.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, I think too many people tried to log on. ''{scratches his head}'' Uh.. sorry about that.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What are you sorry for? It's my website.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um... I don't think they're coming to see you, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What, you think everyone's logging on to watch "tape-leg"? Yeah, that's a good one.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, shut up! The tape-leg is cool. ''{Stretches his hand out and to the right}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, when do I get my website back?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, anytime now. We've got our top men working on it round-the-clock.

''{Bubs enters from the left holding a motherboard.}''

'''BUBS:''' Well, I found the problem. Looks like somebody tried to cram-a-lam a Swiss Cake Roll into the disk drive.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, really? ''{leaning toward Strong Bad, eyeing him suspiciously}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, what are you looking at me for? I did—hut—wut—nany—huit— ''{runs off quickly}

''{The note which looks like an error message appears, taped to the screen. It says, "Everything is fine. Nothing is ruined."}

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' So, Bubs... What are you gonna do with that Swiss Cake Roll?

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
* This cartoon came about when the site was still on Yahoo's server. The site's popularity drove the bandwidth well into the [[Wikipedia:Terabyte|terabytes]], which Yahoo overlooked for a time only because they were all fans. They finally had to shut it down because of the intense server consumption, hence the origins of the toon. However the [[Store]] is still run by [[Wikipedia:Yahoo!|Yahoo!]].

===Trivia===
* At the end of the cartoon, it automatically takes you back to the [[TV Time Toons Menu]].
* This toon can also be seen at [http://www.jomama.com jomama.com].
* The [[TV Time Toons Menu]] [[HR:menuswfs/menu_systemisdown.swf|preview]] has Homestar running past the 404 error. He does not do this in the toon.

===Remarks===
* There are actually ''two'' Swiss Cake Rolls "cram-a-lammed" in the computer's innards.
* The error page is specifically for [[Wikipedia:Internet Explorer|Internet Explorer]]; which makes it somewhat out of place for those using an alternate browser.
* Bubs is actually holding a [[Wikipedia:Motherboard|motherboard]], not a [[Wikipedia:Disk storage|disk drive]].

===Inside References===
* The note that appears on the screen is from [[50 emails]].
* "The system is down" is from [[Strong Bad Email]] [[techno]].
* [[tape-leg]] is a Strong Bad Email, and a [[Tape leg|running gag]].
* [[Swiss Cake Rolls]] are another running gag.

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MIKE:''' So, this is ''The System is Down'', and we made it when the system really was down.

'''MATT:''' It was down for two whole days.

'''MIKE:''' In January of 2003.

'''MATT:''' That's right.

'''MIKE:''' So we made this cartoon, and we were going to put it on a different website, ThoraxCorp.com... um, and email— uh, send out an email to everyone telling them that the system was down and to watch this cartoon.

'''MATT:''' To all fifteen people.

'''MIKE:''' To all fifteen people that were watching the site. But by the time we got done with it, the site was back up, so we just put in on there, and it ended up being a nice little, uh, cartoon.

'''MATT:''' A humor piece. A humor— A nice humor piece. We call these humor-toons, some of these.

'''MIKE:''' Homestar's got a little sass, and also—

'''MATT:''' Sass dackery

'''MIKE:''' There's also a period where Homestar's dress/shirt was a slightly more magenta than red.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Like look at the bill of his hat versus his body.

'''MATT:''' I don't like it. I remember we found a— we did a Google image search for "motherboard" or something and that's what, uh...

'''MIKE:''' ''{mumbles}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Not a disk drive at all, is it?

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs a little}''

'''MATT:''' It's a motherboard.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:systemisdown.html|watch "The System is Down"]]
*[[HR:systemisdown.swf|view the Flash file for "The System is Down"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|systemisdown}}

[[Category:Shorts|System is Down, The]]
[[Category:DVD Commentary]]

Talk:Sample of Style

Boshi — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:12:55 GMT

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== Voice tube labeled "Poopsmith" ==

About the voice tube labeled "Poopsmith," he did speak in [[different town]]. Sure that was in Strong Bad's imagination, but he did have a definite voice then, so it would make sense for them to have a Poopsmith tube. However, in the fun facts it says that the PS's voice is yet to be heard. Shouldn't this be corrected? --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]

:No, the fun fact is correct. Strong Bad's imaginings don't count. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 22:05, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Do they really use tubes? ==

Do they really use tubes?? LOL. I want the homestar one. --[[User:67.175.54.253|67.175.54.253]] 11:47, 1 Feb 2005 (MST)

:Of course they don't. Matt does vocal work by himself without help from any confounded contraptions. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 00:19, 14 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Proof ==

Even though that it is fake which makes it dumb, the humor makes up for it. But this is not at all how they do the voices. I have lots of proof: (1)If you watch the making of the 100th email on the DVD, it shows Matt doing some voice sessions. (2)In some puppet stuff as an easter egg on the DVD, it shows a brief shot of Matt accually doing Homestar's voice while holding the puppet. (3) This shows Matt doing a tube-voiced Marzipan, when it clearly says that Missy does Marzipan's voice in every single toon that includes Marzipan.

There are many other references as proof, but it would take all day to name every single one. Clearly, this was just a gag. ''Posted by Martin F. 6/19/05''

== I can't imagine... ==

I can't imagine anyone actually thinking they do the voices with cardboard tubes... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 00:41, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No need to freak out about this. It was supposed to be funny. Besides what about all those public appearances where Matt does the voices sans cardboard tubes? Proof enough. --'''[[user:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]][[User talk:mibluvr13|dígame]]''' 00:48, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Where? ==
Wait so this is some special feature from a DVD? Which one? It should really say that somewhere in the article. --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 01:06, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
:How about the fact that it's in the DVD category? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Yeah but which one? --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 01:12, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

== Obvious Jab? ==

The author of this page suggests that "The Homeschool Winner quip is an obvious jab at how various Homestar Runner fansites have made such a big deal out of such an obscure character." I do not find TBC's reference to Homeschool Winner a "jab" at any fansites, much less an obvious one. The author's comment seems a little unobjective and self-aggrandizing for recognizing Homeschool Winner's name and subsequent demise as a character. I would delete the comment, but I don't mess with other people's articles. [[User:Komo|Komo]] 20:11, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== Why would they get rid of this? ==

Why would the Brother chaps get rid of Bubs, i mean he's not a bad character, right?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 12:16, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

:It was a joke... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Sample of Style

Boshi — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:12:54 GMT

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[[Image:sample_of_style_screenshot_1.jpg|thumb|The industry secret!]]
[[Image:sample_of_style_screenshot_2.jpg|thumb|Matt demonstrating the use of the "Old-Timey filter"]]

'''Sample of Style''' (From [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Three]])

Mike and Matt Chapman give a 110% true, behind the scenes look on how Matt does the character voices. Seriously!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Mike Chapman}}, {{Film|Matt Chapman}}

'''Running Time:''' 4:12
__FORCETOC__
== Transcript ==
''{A title screen reading simply "Sample of Style" appears. Cut to Mike standing in a doorway}''

'''MIKE:''' Hi! ''{catches a football tossed at him}'' I'm Mike Chapman from homestarrunner.com! People are all the time asking me "Mike, how do you do those stupid voices for your dumb animal characters?" and I say "I'm Mike! Matt does the voices!" Let's go!

''{cut to outside a closed wooden door. Mike looks at the camera and nods knowingly, then knocks on the door}''

'''MIKE:''' Hey Matt! It's Mike!

''{We can hear some noise from inside. Mike opens the door and we hear Matt saying some weird sound effects into a microphone. Nearby are some keyboards and computer equipment.}''

'''MIKE:''' Cut!

''{Matt now notices Mike, and stands up.}''

'''MATT:''' Hey!

'''MIKE:''' Hey, I was just telling the guys how you do the voices for homestarrunner.com.

'''MATT:''' Oh yeah! The website!

'''MIKE:''' Yeah!

''{Mike tosses the football to Matt, who catches it. The camera starts to follow Matt as he walks to the right}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah! Uh, well, you know, it's kind of an industry secret, so we keep them here under lock and key. Uh, let me just—do you have the key, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

''{Mike gives Matt a key, and Matt "unlocks" a cabinet door (or rather, makes a sound effect implying it's been unlocked). The camera angle shifts so that it's behind Mike and Matt. We can see wire boxes full of material, an old Compy 386-style computer on top of the cabinet, and a huge cork board with hair metal band photos on it. Matt produces a briefcase from inside the cabinet and sets it on top}''

'''MATT:''' So here it is.

''{The camera cuts closer to the briefcase. Matt opens it to reveal cardboard tubes with the names of the characters written on them. Matt takes one out labeled "Homestar Runner"}''

'''MATT:''' Hey, Mike. ''{starts talking into it, the Homestar voice comes out}'' Oh hello, Mike! Check me out!

'''MIKE:''' Easy there, Homestar!

'''MATT:''' Hahaha, ''{suddenly shifts tone to dead seriousness}'' stop the camera.

''{The camera cuts now to Mike, then pans back to Matt}''

'''MIKE:''' So if that's how you do Homestar Runner, how about the King of Town?

'''MATT:''' Good question, Mike. ''{takes out the cardboard tube labeled The King of Town}'' The King of Town is a little more difficult. I have to employ a little of ''this'' strategy... ''{Matt puts the tube up to his mouth and one hand on the other end of the tube to act as a mute. The King of Town voice comes out}'' Dooooo hoo hoooo! I'm so hungry! I want a lot of food items!

'''MIKE:''' ''{just off-camera}'' Wow, that's impressive. ''{camera puts him back in frame}'' The King likes food, doesn't he?

''{Matt laughs a little. Cut to Matt sitting at his computer workstation. Coach Z and Strong Mad are on the screen. Matt hits a button the keyboard, puts a Coach Z cardboard tube up to his mouth, and turns to the microphone}''

'''MATT:''' ''{Coach Z voice}'' Hey Strong Mad, you're doin' a great joraerb there! ''{quick switches the tube out for a Strong Mad tube, producing the Strong Mad voice}'' I DON'T HAVE A JOB! ''{switch}'' I say ya done a groot joob! ''{switch}'' YOU'RE A GROOT JOOB! ''{switch}'' Björn Borg! ''{switch}'' RAAAAH! ''{switch}'' Where's th—''{switch}'' RAAAH! ''{switch}'' fjords? ''{switch}'' RAAAAHHH!

''{Cut to Mike, who is standing by the briefcase}''

'''MIKE:''' That's great for you, Matt, ''{takes a cardboard tube labeled "Strong Bad"}'' but what happens if '''''I''''' use one of these things? ''{puts the tube up to his mouth, and the Powered By The Cheat version of Strong Bad comes out}'' I think this is sounding pretty good.

''{Mike puts the tube down, and grabs the King of Town cardboard tube to put up to his mouth}''

'''MIKE:''' ''{Powered by the Cheat KoT}'' I'm the King of Town!

''{Mike grabs the Strong Mad and Homsar tubes, puts them end to end, and produces an awful racket before pulling them away from his lips}''

'''MIKE:''' What happened?

''{Cut to Mike leaning on a stacked-up amp}''

'''MATT:''' ''{offscreen}'' I was really, really unhappy with what you did. I—I thought it was terrible.

'''MIKE:''' I didn't do it.

''{Cut to Mike sitting on the cabinet}''

'''MIKE:''' Now this one REALLY creeps me out!

''{Pan to Matt at the computer workstation, wearing Missy's glasses and hairband, and speaking into a Marzipan tube}''

'''MATT:''' ''{Marzipan voice}'' And then I went to the ''store'', and then I punched somebody in the face, and then I picked a flower, and then... I did something else and then I blew my nose.

''{Cut back to Mike leaning on the amps. He now has a white phone in his shirt's breast pocket. Mike makes a fake ringing noise, and "answers" the phone}''

'''MIKE:''' Hello?

''{The phone REALLY starts ringing. Matt and Mike start laughing. The frame "jumps"}''

'''MIKE:''' Hey Matt, some trucker wants to know how you do the voices for those terrible old-timey cartoons you're always making.

''{The camera pans to Matt}''

'''MATT:''' Ohhh, that's a great question, Mike. What we had to do with THAT was jury-rig a little sample of style. ''{grabs a styrofoam cup with "Old Timey Filter" written on it.}'' Take a simple voice like, say, Strong Bad ''{takes the Strong Bad tube from the briefcase}'' and add the Old Timey Filter onto it. ''{Matt holds the cup to the end of the tube}'' Let's see what we get. ''{Matt starts speaking into the tube, producing Old-Timey Strong Bad}'' I'll give you old-timey, you mountebank!

'''MIKE:''' Excuse me?

''{Matt starts laughing evilly}''

'''MIKE:''' Fresh!

''{Matt keeps laughing, until finally Mike tackles him}''

'''MATT:''' Oh I'm sorry Mike!

''{Cut to Mike looking around confusedly. We can hear The Cheat noises being made}''

'''MIKE:''' Where is that coming from?

''{More The Cheat noises. Mike looks over to the side, and the camera focuses on what he looked at; a Kick the Cheat doll.}''

'''MIKE:''' What?

''{The Cheat noises}''

'''MIKE:''' ''{poking the doll}'' Are you talking, little guy?

''{More The Cheat noises. Mike looks behind him}''

'''MIKE:''' Oh, Matt!

''{Camera pans to Matt, holding up a short cardboard tube with The Cheat written on it, and making more The Cheat noises. Cut to Matt holding up what appears to be two cardboard tubes end to end.}''

'''MATT:''' OK, ready!

''{The camera zooms out, and we can see that Mike is helping hold up more, so it looks like all of the tubes have been combined into one big mega tube. Matt speaks into the tube}''

'''MATT:''' ''{Stinkoman voice}'' '''''DOUBLE DEEEEEUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU'''''- ''{runs out of breath}'' gah!

'''MIKE:''' I want to do another one, Matt!

'''MATT:''' Nah, that's all the time we've got for today, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' No, seriously!

''{Matt and Mike start scuffling over one of the tubes, resulting in the tube becoming mangled. We can see that it was labeled "Bubs"}''

'''MATT:''' Great. Now we have to kill off Bubs. Just like Homeschool Winner.

''{Matt throws the mangled tube at Mike angrily, hitting him}''

'''MATT:''' I'm outta here.

''{Matt walks off in a huff. Mike picks up the mangled tube and talks into it}''

'''MIKE:''' ''{Powered by The Cheat Bubs}'' My name's Bubs! This is my regulah voice! ''{stops talking into it and shrugs}'' Sounds good to me.

''{The screen fades to a cartoon tombstone, reading as follows:}''
[[Image:sample of style screenshot 4.jpg|thumb|"That'll be five dollars"]]
<blockquote>
BUBS 
19?8–2004 
"That'll be 
five dollars."
</blockquote>

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*The character voices were accomplished by overdubbing the character dialogue later.

===Trivia===
*[[The Brothers Chaps]] have a mousepad from [[They Might Be Giants]]' [http://store.yahoo.com/tmbg-catalog/ online store], specifically the one with the log design.
*This is the only time we hear the [[Powered by The Cheat]] version of [[The King of Town]].
*"Mountebank" is a synonym for [[Wikipedia:Charlatan|Charlatan]].

===Remarks===
*The line "That'll be five dollars" was used in [[pom pom]].
*This is a [[Live Action|live action]] video.
*It turns out, in [[virus]], that [[Bubs]] hasn't been killed off after all. "virus" was made not too long after the DVD was released.
*When seen in the suitcase, there are no tubes for [[Marzipan]] or [[The Cheat]], although both tubes are seen later on.

===Inside References===
*The tombstone at the end is a reference to the end of [[replacement]].
*The [[Rejected Characters#Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]] quip is an obvious jab at how various [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]] fansites have made such a big deal out of such an obscure character.
*The sound Matt is making as Mike comes in sounds like the sound [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] makes when putting the toothpicks and olives in the sandwich, in the toon [[Where's The Cheat?]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Björn Borg|Björn Borg]] is a famous Swedish tennis player, most well known for defeating John McEnroe to win the 1980 Wimbledon Cup.
*People catching footballs after a greeting is a common theme with football players in TV commercials.

== Related Links ==
*[[strongbad_email.exe]]
*[[Sample of Style Too]]

[[Category:strongbad_email.exe DVD]]

Tompkins

Boshi — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:11:32 GMT

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[[Image:Kiddie_Tompkins.PNG|thumb|left|220px|He never made it out of training pants...]]
[[Image:tompkinteen.png|thumb|right|140px|...or ''did'' he?]]
'''Tompkins''' is a little boy that taunted the [[Teen Girl Squad]] in their preschool days. When the girls taunt him back, he runs off and dies... somehow. When he dies, his body is cut into thirds. Torso takes silver, and apparently, head takes bronze, leaving legs in first. His toddler voice sounds quite similar to that of [[Lil' Strong Bad]]. He was also in [[rock opera]], where he is shown laughing at and pointing to [[Anonymous]]. He is seen as a teenager in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]], where he is called to Prinicpal (sic) [[Strong Bad]]'s office. [[So and So]] thinks he's a renegade, and as The Overachiever Bandit, she even finished the rest of his pre-algebra homework, earning him an A++++++. After So and So and [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Brett Bretterson|Brett Bretterson]] become splittsville she attempted to get to first base with him in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]], but he rejected her whilst playing his [[Wikipedia:Game Boy|Game Boy]]. He is also the only character with braces, and he has red hair.

In the commentary for [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7#Commentary Transcript|Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]], [[The Brothers Chaps]] state that Tompkins is based on their young cousin. He has threatened to push them down into some snakewater, as Tompkins does to the girls.

==Filmography==
*'''Debut:''' [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]]
*[[:Category:Tompkins Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

{{Teen Girl Squad}}

[[Category:Teen Girl Squad Characters]]

Talk:l33t Interview (censored)

Boshi — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:10:33 GMT

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Do we HONESTLY need this? I mean seriously, you guys, it's like, three swear words, balleet this crap.
[[User:67.160.39.151|67.160.39.151]] 22:49, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
:Hmmm I do agree that it is a little unnecessary...however, I must say that some viewers of Homestar Runner might not like or particularly enjoy the swears, mild as they are (I personally am not one of these people). I would suggest keeping it for now, mainly because it doesn't hurt and could possibly save some offensive..but I dunno. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 22:57, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

:Yes, we do need this. If one wants to see a version of this interview without swear words, they can come here. [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 03:57, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
::I second Rainer. -- '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 12:56, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
:::I third Rainer. I do not like coarse language at all, and one of the major reasons I'm a fan of HSR is because the language is so mild. Anyone who remembers me from the HRWiki forums will know that I used to HATE HSR, because the second thing I ever saw on it was [[trevor the vampire]], in which Strong Bad begins to type the F-word. This had me pretty convinced that HSR would be like so many other websites and contain gratuitous profanity, so I never visits the site again for months. With so many F-words and S-words on the internet, it's BEYOND difficult finding a good humor site which limits itself to "sucks" and "crap". So, yes, there should be some form of censorship in the interview. Either keep this page, or change the background color of the swears so that one needs to highlight them with the mouse to see them. [[User:mathgrant|mathgrant]]
:::If you don't like the swears, it's your choice not to read the interview. Similarly, it should be TBC's choice to use swears or not without being censored by some other site. I don't believe in making censored versions of anything. A warning is sufficient to alert you that you might not like what you are going to read. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 08:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::I believe it is common courtesy to provide a censored version of an interview to our readers, especially on a family-friendly site like this. This page doesn't hurt anyone. {{User:Rainer/sig}} 06:48, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

l33t Interview (censored)

Boshi — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:10:30 GMT

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{{censored|l33t Interview}}

== Transcript ==

'''STEPHAN:''' State your name for the record, please.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Mike Chapman!

'''STEPHAN:''' How long has Homestarrunner.com been up?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Since January of 2000. A nice clean starting point.

'''STEPHAN:''' Yes, nicely planned. I think I stumbled on the site in the fall of 2000. For somebody that has never heard of the site, how would you describe it?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Tough question... um, a site with lots of cartoons and games and characters and no banner ads or pop-up ads or crap like that. It is aimed at twenty-somethings and college type kids but can be enjoyed by little tykes as well.

'''STEPHAN:''' Hmm, why would you say its aimed at twenty-somethings? I didn't find anything particularly adult in content. Unless I'm missing something.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' A lot of references to things in the eighties, not a lot, but some. Most of our audience is either college-aged kids or people that are out of college, judging by the emails we get.

'''STEPHAN:''' I see, so do you get a lot of visitors and fan mail?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' We get about a thousand viewers a day. We get five or ten mails a day.

'''STEPHAN:''' I don't get any fan mail. I feel so unloved.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' So are things busy over at wtfiml33t?

'''STEPHAN:''' Yeah. Quite busy.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Where are you?

'''STEPHAN:''' NYC.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' I see. That's where my brother Matt is. He does all the voices for Homestar.

'''STEPHAN:''' Aha. I love the voices. He does every characters' voices?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yeah. Except Marzipan which my girlfriend Missy does.

'''STEPHAN:''' I was going to say he does a **** good girl impression.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' That would be impressive.

'''STEPHAN:''' Impressive, and slightly scary I would say.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yes.

'''STEPHAN:''' You said your brother Matt does the voices, what do you do?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' I do most everything else: graphics, animation, programming. He does some of that too, but he has a real job and I freelance, so I have way more free time than he.

'''STEPHAN:''' Do you guys work on the stories together, or is that mainly yours?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, that writing is pretty much 50/50.

'''STEPHAN:''' I think the jumping jack competition has to be one of my favorites.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Good. I'm glad you like it. I sometimes wonder if it is too long.

'''STEPHAN:''' Oh no, I think they are a good length.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Good. I wonder no more.

'''STEPHAN:''' They are funny stuff, so it's not like I get bored while watching it. You don't really see that many online comics that do 'episodes' per se, so I think its a good change to see a slightly longer style cartoon, although I could imagine that is due to the amount of work that goes into each episode. How long would you say, on average, it takes you to put out a new cartoon?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yeah. Cartoon Network online and such don't do a very good job of creating a character and having several episodes about him/her. They have lots of cartoons about lots of different characters.

'''STEPHAN:''' They don't really develop the characters, so you can't get attached to them. I think that is part of the attraction of cartoons, watching them every Saturday morning and following the character's next adventure.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Exactly. A full episode probably takes between one and two months, mostly because it is a spare-time affair. If we both worked fulltime, we could probably do an episode every two weeks or so.

'''STEPHAN:''' Wow, I wouldn't mind that at all!

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Hopefully, someday. I'm glad you mentioned the Saturday morning thing.

'''STEPHAN:''' Why's that?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' This is another reason I feel it's aimed at twenty-somethings. I like to think it has that Saturday morning cartoon feel that we all grew up with. And then sometime in the late 80's Saturday morning cartoons started sucking.

'''STEPHAN:''' Yeah, they pretty much suck now, not to mention cartoons are on, like, all day now. Morning, afternoon, weekend...

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, it's hard to find the good amidst all the bad.

'''STEPHAN:''' I agree, and I also think its due to the same thing we talked about before, the characters aren't developed in a way that you can associate with them.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' When we talked to Cartoon Network... they said they were ''not'' looking for character-based humor, and more towards situational humor where any character could be plugged into a given scenario.

'''STEPHAN:''' Hmm, I didn't know that. I personally get enough with the sitcoms on TV, I don't need cartoon sitcoms too.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Strong Bad and Homestar could sit and talk about anything and it would be funny because they are funny characters, I think.

'''STEPHAN:''' I agree. Just listening to them talk is funny.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' We are hoping to make Cartoon Network kick themselves in the *** for passing on us.

'''STEPHAN:''' Did you have a deal in the works with them?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' They contacted us and we had a couple meetings with them, but they ultimately said "no thanks."

'''STEPHAN:''' That's unfortunate. I'm amazed that they would even go that far. With all that stuff out there on the Internet, it can be pretty hard to get deals with larger companies.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yeah. Since I'm in Atlanta, there were some friends of friends that turned them on to the site. This was in its infancy, April of 2000. The site and characters have developed a lot since then.

'''STEPHAN:''' I'm sure somewhere down the road you could get another deal if you wanted to. Speaking of other sites, what other sites or comics do you read or use for inspiration?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Hmmmmm, there's a good online cartoon called Joe Paradise at wildbrain.com. I think its my favorite. Looks cool and is not trying to be funny, which is nice sometimes. Most cartoons go for the lowest brow humor possible. This one is actually telling a story. It's twelve episodes all connected.

'''STEPHAN:''' I'm not familiar with that site, looks pretty neat. I think the art of storytelling is dying off, and it's MTV and the Internet that is partially to blame for shorter attention spans.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Indeed. If an Internet cartoon doesn't have me interested in the first 20 seconds, I'm gone. So I'm part of the problem.

'''STEPHAN:''' Is that why you have so many different homepages on the site? To seize those twenty seconds that you get?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yeah. New stuff. Changing stuff.

'''STEPHAN:''' I love the secret Strong Bad homepage.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Good job on finding it. We keep meaning to add more secret phrases to the Homestar Talker that would have all sorts of secret stuff.

'''STEPHAN:''' I love the Talker, I can't get enough of the voices.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' We've been tempted to just make a Talker for everyone.

'''STEPHAN:''' Homestar's "all right" is too much.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Aw-wight!

'''STEPHAN:''' That and "Pom Pom, you so cwaaazy". I always wondered why he had no hands, though.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Oh, the no hands thing. I don't know. That's just the way I drew him. We're doing "DVD versions" of ''King of Town'' and ''Yello Dello'' toons, with deleted scenes, Strong Bad commentary, storyboards, etc.

'''STEPHAN:''' Wow, that sounds great. That pretty much answers my "What are your future plans?" question. Is that the next thing you will be adding? Or are we going to see a few new cartoons first?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, those two things and a new menu page next week.

'''STEPHAN:''' Awesome, I'm looking forward to that. Do you really storyboard out all your cartoons?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yeah. Most of 'em.

'''STEPHAN:''' Then do you use a tablet to drawn them? What is the usual process for creating one?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Either scanning in drawings and vectorizing them, drawing in Illustrator, or drawing in Flash. A little of each.

'''STEPHAN:''' Ah, cool. I'm experimenting with vector art myself right now.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' I love vectors! Oh yes. Marzipan just got here.

'''STEPHAN:''' Oh yeah, speaking of Marzipan, the question I know everyone wants to know: When are Homestar and Marzipan going to get it on?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Lemme ask her. "It's gonna be awhile," says Marzipan. "A looooong time" she says.

'''STEPHAN:''' So, in other words, don't hold my breath.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Wight...

'''STEPHAN:''' Have you ever had a Bronco Trolley?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' ''Yes!'' And they are good!

'''STEPHAN:''' I never would have thought. I must try one, then.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' I had a dream with them right when the site started. So that's why I made the game, but never ate one until about a month ago. I was missing out! Thems are good!

'''STEPHAN:''' So you came up with them in a dream?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yeah.

'''STEPHAN:''' Wow, that's pretty nutty. The other day I made the Poopsmith's super deluxe you-know-what cookies and they taste like ****. What gives?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Oh. Sorry 'bout that. Strong Bad's little joke on the rest of us. I made some, too.

'''STEPHAN:''' Yes, quite the adventure, I must say.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' I found out yesterday that someone has registered strongbad.com. A future goal was for him to have his own site.

'''STEPHAN:''' Whoa. Do you think they are a fan of the site?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' I dunno, but coachz.com is taken too.

'''STEPHAN:''' That's a bummer.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' ********.

'''STEPHAN:''' I would love to see a Strong Bad site. It's a toss up between him and Homestar, I can't decide who's funnier.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' I know. It was gonna have a different feel. More Strong Bad-dy. Most people seem to like Strong Bad best. As Homestar gets dumber, people seem to like him more. Originally he wasn't that dumb.

'''STEPHAN:''' Yes I was just going to say that Strong Bad is smarter in his insults, whereas Homestar just kind of runs around doing his thing.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yeah. He's oblivious.

'''STEPHAN:''' But that's what makes him so funny.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Oh. Did you ever see the wrestling cartoon?

'''STEPHAN:''' Don't think so.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' It's been off the site for a while now. You can see it at www.robofilms.com in the archives section. It's called ''Marshmallow's Last Stand''. It was the first cartoon we did for the site.

'''STEPHAN:''' Oh yeah, the art is really different in those. You can tell it's older.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, that's why we took it off the site. The characters are completely different. Saying and doing things they'd never do now.

'''STEPHAN:''' I didn't even notice it changed so much. They are growing as characters now, so I guess that's a good thing.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, definitely. As we do new cartoons, little personality traits just sort of emerge. Like, Coach Z has made several old school rap references.

'''STEPHAN:''' I think you should have more of the older stuff on the site. It's fun to follow along the growth of the characters and to see them change. For example I really like the older intros, they had more of a song feel to it.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' That's pretty much the only old thing that's not in the museum. I guess I should go ahead and put it in. Interesting about the intros. You don't like the "everybody" song better?

'''STEPHAN:''' Oh, I think its great too. Especially with Homestar singing at the end.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Okay. Good. Everybody, la-dee-daw-dee-daw.

'''STEPHAN:''' Did you do that music yourself?

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Yeah. There's a Fatboy Slim song on the bowling page, and Frampton in Strong Bad's menu page. But the rest is ours. We gotta get rid of those eventually.

'''STEPHAN:''' Very cool. I love the songs. I think I'm going to wrap it up now, it was great chatting with you. Thanks for your time.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' No problem. Thanks a lot.

'''STEPHAN:''' I love the site, keep up the good work.

'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' Thanks a bunch.

[[Category:Interviews and Public Appearances]]

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== Heavy Load? ==

Unlikely that's it's a play on words for "Heavy Load". It doesn't make sense. Especially since Lourde is the french word.
*It makes sense to me, given that "Lourde" sounds a lot like "load"... [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 19:40, 17 Mar 2005 (MST)
*I've always thought it was a play on Heavy Load, and a Canadian anvil... But that's just me.
*I disagree with the fun fact. I think it's just a coincidence - the primary 'joke' is clearly the bilingual labelling. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*In french, "lourde" is a feminine adjective and it means heavy. The masculine form, which is applied by default would be "lourd" and it should have been used on the weight. It may be a reference to written french jokes in Warner Brothers cartoons, in "Pepe le Pew" and others where they made similar mistakes with "word genders".
*I'm the guy that made the edit, and I definately think it's a play on "heavy lourde." "Lourde" is exactly how Coach Z or Homsar would say it, and the Brother's Chaps use this kind of silly mispelling/mispronounciation all the time. While I admit it would be a pretty big coincidence if they had not known that it was French, it's not impossible, and it seems likely they were going for both jokes at once. I think it's at least worth mentioning as a possibility. -Aaron
*I added it, but stupid BazookaJoe reverted it. [[User:Mr. Bojangles|Mr. Bojangles]] 21:21, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

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[[Image:heavy_lourde.png|thumb|Heavy Lourde]]
[[Image:heavyhomsar.PNG|thumb|The Heavy Lourde doing what it does best.]]

The '''Heavy Lourde''' is an extremely large weight that gets dropped on various characters. The most frequent victim of this weight is [[Homsar]]. In French, "lourde" means "heavy", making the name redundant.

This gag is perhaps spoofing [[Wikipedia:Monty Python's Flying Circus|Monty Python's Flying Circus]], which had a similar running gag with a weight that said "16 TONS" on it.

The bilingual labeling on the weight may refer to the multi-lingual labeling of items [[Wikipedia:Bilingualism_in_Canada|required]] in Canada and becoming more prevalent in the United States since the advent of [[Wikipedia:NAFTA|NAFTA]]. Labeling like this also occurs on [[Wikipedia:Air_France|Air France]] flights between the [[Wikipedia:United_States|U.S.]] and [[Wikipedia:France|France]]. When a bag is over a certain weight, a label is added to the bag saying "Heavy Lourde" on two lines in the same way it appears on the large weight.

In the [[FAQ]], a similar weight (labeled "1 TON") appears in the activity on the last page. Also, in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]], [[What's Her Face]] is squashed by a similar weight reading "NO Pounds."

==Appearances==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[homsar]] — Homsar is squished.
*[[Homsar Main Page]] — Homsar is again squished when the "[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games]]" button is selected.
*Email [[stunt double]] — [[Strong Sad]] gets "what [he] like[s] to call a broken neck", as a stunt double for [[Strong Bad]], who is playing [[Dangeresque]].
*Email [[garage sale]] — The Heavy Lourde is for sale at Strong Bad's garage sale, for $2, referencing email #2, where it first appeared.

[[Category:Weapons]]

Talk:sb email 22

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==Huh?==
''This could also be a reference to an intro from [http://www.calles.pp.se/gas/material/himla/tvlakrits/sportsomfinns.html "Sport som finns"] in "En himla mnga program" of "Galenskaparna & After Shave" html).''

Does this have anything to do with this email? - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 14:34, 16 Sep 2004 (MST)

I dunno what that's about, but doesn't this email say "bullocks" instead of "bollocks"? Did this get censored out?

== Never mind the B-Word ==

Given the family-friendly nature of this Wiki, shouldn't the title of that album be censored? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

I doubt it, because since most people who access the Wiki are Americans, they wouldn't seen "bullocks" as a curse word, or even anything inappropriate.
:But H*R has its share of British fans, and it's not as if this site is just for America. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

From what I underdtand, the policy regarding approtriateness on this wiki is that if it's shown on H*R, it's acceptable. -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

== Dominantly English? ==

"Dominantly English sport of cricket?" -- The Aussies might have something to say about that.
:You're right. I'll change that. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]

== Tough one to time ==

this is a tough one to time, because the paper doesn't come down until you click on an easter egg... I think the running time may need to be changed. Anyone else have thoughts on how to time this one? --[[User:DMurphy|DMurphy]] 15:24, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I say when the newspaper comes up. That's when the transcript ends, as well as the Flash Seek Bar. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

==Same Screen?==

I don't understand what the fun fact "This is the first email with an Easter egg that opens on the same screen as the Strong Bad email" is supposed to mean. Don't all Easter eggs open on the same screen? [[User:24.193.245.4|24.193.245.4]] 05:58, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Nope. The "depressio" and Bookazon eggs didn't. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 13:13, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== I swear... ==
...that the Announcer said "the entire royal ''dominate'' to tears." [[User:Seek Bar|Seek Bar]]

:That doesn't really make much sense. I think its royal family. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:02, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::It's definetly royal family. If anything, it could be confused by domily, which of course, isn't a word.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 21:07, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
== I cant believe he said that ==
This voice also sound like one of the warner brothers, wacko. {{User:Csours/sig}} 17:43, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:Wakko wasn't English, though... Dunno why he'd be offended. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I thought it sounded like one of the beatles....-{{User:Homsar7/sig}}
:::Ringo, to be exact... (see "Real Word Refrences") --[[User:Nom_anor67|Nom_anor67]] 01:21, 7 August 2006

== Brought The Royal Family To Tears? ==

what did strong bad say (besides screw all y'all) to offend them? i think we deserve to know. -{{User:Homsar7/sig}}
:I think it's better left up to the viewer's imagination, where it's sure to be more outrageous. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Hey guys.. Cool site ==

Gah, aren't I sad writing in to you guys instead of getting on with my life?!

All I wanted to say was: it was amazing to be chosen, I'm just so sad I didn't include a surname, cus then at least my friends would maybe believe me when I claimed to be the author of e-mail 22. :)

Mark (author of the email referenced in SBEmail22)

sb email 22

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{{sbenav|22|cartoon|little animal}}

[[Image:sbemail22.PNG|thumb|Strong Bad offends the royals!]]

{{wrongtitle|title=sb_email 22}}

Strong Bad is asked by Mark from England what he thinks of the English. It's a disaster in the making.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Cheat}} (Easter egg), {{Film|The Announcer}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], Press Conference (Easter Egg)

'''Computer:''' [[Tandy 400]]

'''Date:''' September 2, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 0:34

'''Page Title:''' The Lost Email!

== Transcript ==

'''Strong Bad:''' ''{singing}'' Do, du, dadada do, du, dadada do... ''{stops singing}''

<blockquote class="tandy email">Hi Strong Bad, 
 
I'm from England. What do you think of 
the English? 
 
Thank you, 
Mark</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, gee, Mark, if you're really from England, shouldn't you have some kinda unnecessary vowel at the end of your name? ''{adds an "e" to the end of Mark's name}'' And what is this "Thank you"? Whatever happened to "Cheers" or "Cheerio" or "Nevermind the Bullocks"? ''{changes "Thank you" into these words as he says them}'' Call yourself "English". But, anyways, what do I think of the English, huh? Oh, I'll ''tell'' you what I think of the ''English''!

''{A big red sign with white letters appears across the screen saying "BANNED IN THE UK." Cut to a picture of an issue of ''The Guardian'', which gives the following article about Strong Bad on the front page.}''

<blockquote>'''Strong Bad Offends''' 
'''The Royals!''' 
 
In this Monday's edition of U.S. based "Strong Bad 
Email," the title character, Strong Bad, an odd little 
bloke with a Mexican wrestling mask for a head and 
boxing gloves for hands made such comments that 
warranted the Queen to ban the edition from UK 
shores. Strong Bad has been charged with "verbal 
crimes against the crown" and the Strong Bad Email, 
now simply being called the infamous "sbemail22," 
has been removed from broadcast in both the UK and 
the States. At a press conference held on Tuesday, 
</blockquote>

== Easter Eggs ==

*After the [[Periodicals|newspaper]] comes up, click the words "press conference" to see the press conference.

:'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Strong Bad, how do you respond to claims that your comment brought the entire royal family to tears?

:''{The Cheat whispers a response to Strong Bad. Strong Bad clears his throat and speaks into the microphone.}''

:'''STRONG BAD:''' Screw all y'all.

:''{Gasps are heard from the crowd.}''

:'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Cor blimey!

:''{A black-and-white photograph snaps Strong Bad and The Cheat.}''

:'''MAN:''' ''{off screen, in a Liverpudlian accent}'' I can't believe he said that.

:''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

*After the press conference, click on the stack of papers to see what The Cheat told Strong Bad. The paper reads, "Just say 'Screw all ya'll'. Trust me. It'll work."

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*The reason why this is called "The Lost Email!" is because after [[The Brothers Chaps]] made email 21, [[cartoon]], they went ahead and made email 23, [[little animal]], skipping over number 22. Between [[vacation]] (#40) and [[invisibility]] (#41), The Brothers Chaps made email 22.
**The skip makes this email the last of the Tandy era.
*"[[Wikipedia:Bobby|Bobby]]" is English slang for a policeman, hence the joke about a policeman actually named Bobby.
*The article on [[Wikipedia:Cricket|cricket]] is a reference to America's stereotyped attitude to the sport of cricket which the English are renowned for embracing.
*"Some kinda unnecessary vowel at the end" refers to differences between [[Wikipedia:American English|American English]] and [[Wikipedia:British English|British English]] (especially archaic British). Examples include words like ''annexe, programme, shoppe, olde, pointe, towne,'' and ''grille,'' and famous names such as ''Locke''.
*According to [[Wikipedia:The Guardian|The Guardian]]: "The King Of Town Eats Treacle". Although the King of Town is known for his proclivity for strange food items, [[Wikipedia:Molasses|treacle]] is not all that strange. The word is odd-sounding to American ears, but it's really just molasses.
*"[[Wikipedia:Bollocks|Bollocks]]" literally means "testicles" in Britain and Ireland. However, it can also be used in the same general sense as "crap" or "nonsense" — although the word itself is much stronger. That said, Strong Bad misspells it as "bullocks", which refers to young bulls.

===Trivia===
*This is the shortest Strong Bad email, with a time of 34 seconds.

[[Image:sbemail22glitch.png|thumb|right|The see-through hand]]

===Goofs===
*When Strong Bad covers the microphone with his hand, there is a gap between his hand and the edge of the mic.
*After the "BANNED IN THE UK" sign and cut to the newspaper, we can hear a small blip of the press conference easter egg.
*If you change the contrast all the way to green during the beginning, the "BANNED IN THE UK" banner changes it back to black just before the newspaper appears.

===Real-World References===
*The song Strong Bad sings in the beginning of the email is from [[Wikipedia:Donkey Kong (arcade game)|the original ''Donkey Kong'' game]].
*"Never Mind the Bullocks" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Sex Pistols|Sex Pistols]] album of similar name ("[[Wikipedia:Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols|Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols]]"), which was also banned in the UK.
* The paper that appears is a very faithfully reproduced version of UK broadsheet [[Wikipedia:The Guardian|The Guardian]], including references to that paper's supplement, [[Wikipedia:The Guardian#Suppelements|G2]]. Also referred to are [[Wikipedia:B-2 Spirit|B2]], a class of bomber used by the USAF, and F7, a type of rail engine.
*In the corner of the photo of Strong Bad, a classic [[Wikipedia:Buses in London|London bus]] can be seen. There is also an advert on the side of it for [[Wikipedia:EasyJet|easyJet]], a British airline.
*Somebody sounding suspiciously like [[Wikipedia:Ringo Starr|Ringo Starr]] says "I can't believe he said that" at the end of the press conference. This could be in reference to the infamous [[Wikipedia:John Lennon|John Lennon]] quote stating that [[Wikipedia:The Beatles|The Beatles]] were "more popular than Jesus" and the uproar that ensued.

===Fast Forward===
*The Cheat's whispering to Strong Bad is one of the quotes on the "Learn to Speak The Cheat" record in [[cheat talk]]. It translates as "Check it out, this is going to be great! Just say, 'Screw all y'all!'"

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail22.html|watch "sb_email 22"]]
*[[HR:sbemail22.swf|view the Flash file for "sb_email 22"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]]

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== DVD Question ==

What does the editor mean by "You can't make a round with the [[Cheatcakes|cheatcakes]] song anymore"? And what do they mean by "Now we know that the Cheat speak translates into They Go To Prison!"? It still says "Those People Go To Prison!" and I still don't know what "You can't make a round" means. -[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]] 17:55, 14 Nov 2004
:If you read the description of the normal easter egg for the online version of the toon, you could see what was meant by "a round." This is a really late response, but you know. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 20:32, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)

A round is when there's people singing the same stuff at slightly different times. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

The disk case reads HyperBlade. That is my favorite game of all time. No game needs a sequel as much as that game. -[[User:Helios Rex|Helios Rex]]

== Scientist Uniform STUFF ==

'''Arguement''' where does strong bad get that scientist uniform? he grabs it off his keyboard, it seems, but i didnt see a uniform there before!-{{User:Homsar7/sig}}

:First of all, for instructions on how to STUFF facts, see [[HRWiki:STUFF]]. Second of all, that kind of thing happens all the time in cartoons, which makes it less notable. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 15:46, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

== Bread and Butter ==

Strong Bad says that saying stupid stuff is Homestar's bread and butter, could this be a rferrence to Homestar's obbsesion with bread? I know bread and Butter is a commonly used expression, but he could have said other things that would get the point across just as well.
[[User:Andrew911|Andrew911]] 03:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

stupid stuff

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[[Image:sbemail98.png|thumb|"The Grumblecakes will be mine!"]]

Kevin Grumbles writes in to tell Strong Bad that he should make Homestar Runner say stupid stuff because his voice is hilarious. Strong Bad switches it up!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Homsar}} (Easter egg), {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' February 16, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 2:35

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Dah doh, doo doh, email me some words, doo-doo, some different words.

''{Reading email}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Hey Strong Bad, 
 
I think you should make Homestar say 
stupid stuff, his voice is hilarious! 
 
Sincerely, 
Kevin Grumbles</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad just mumbles instead of saying the word "Grumbles" throughout the email.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Uh, you don't really have to MAKE Homestar say stupid stuff, Grumbles, that's the guy's bread n' butter. Or at least his, uh, cracker n' mustard. No, the REAL challenge is to get Homestar to say something intelligent. ''{He clears the screen and continues typing.}'' If I can do that, then you owe me a batch of your special Grumblecakes. And if I fail, then I'll quit stealing the bricks from your house, one by one. ''{quickly}'' Deal? Deal.

''{Strong Bad goes to get up from his chair and Homestar Runner is leaning over his shoulder.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{quietly}'' Hi, Strong Bad.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{surprised}'' Ah, geez! Homestar!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Bad, do you notice anything different about me today?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um, you broke into my house?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No, I'm always doing that.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{apparently unperturbed}'' Okay, what?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{standing on one foot}'' I'm standing on one foot!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, great. Look, I'll give you half a Grumblecake if you can say something intelligent.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What's that?

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's like a little cake with some, like, steam and sugar.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No, no, the other one.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, "intelligent"?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, yeah, intellivision.

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know, something smart.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I think I can do that. ''{attempts to look shifty and cunning}'' ...What's in it for me?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{annoyed}'' Half a Grumblecake!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, right. Okay, here goes—

'''STRONG BAD:''' No wait, put this stuff on... It'll add to the illusion.

''{Strong Bad gives Homestar Runner a white lab coat, black-rimmed glasses with masking tape, and a test tube. Homestar uses the test tube as if it was a microphone and he was interviewing Strong Bad.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoa, check me out, Strong Bad, I look a-smart!

'''STRONG BAD:''' You sure do, stupid. Now say something.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{smugly} And'' I'm standing on one foot!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{urging}'' Come on, say something smart! You can do it!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Science!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, that's pretty good. Keep going!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Science again! I said science again!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let's move away from science. Try math.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Plus two.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, this isn't going—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hundred!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{groans}'' I need to get my hands on some of them Grumblecakes! Maybe if I employ a little reverse psychologies... If I ask a stupid enough question, I'll get an intelligent answer! ''{clears throat}'' I say, there, Homestar, butt's twelve by pies?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh, yes! I got Strong Bad to say something stupid! ''{triumphantly}'' The Grumblecakes will be mine!

''(Homestar runs off.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! What the crap just happened?! Is it possible that I was just... ''outsmarted'' by Homestar Runner?! ''{typing, shouting, and raising his fist}'' I'LL GET YOU KEVIN GRUMBLES!!!

''{The Cheat enters with a tray of The Cheatcakes.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Get that mess outta here! I don't want none o' those Cheatcakes!

''{Strong Bad smacks the tray of The Cheatcakes out of The Cheat's hands.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{angry The Cheat noises}''

''{The Cheat exits dejectedly.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{apologetically}'' No, wait, The Cheat, come back!

''{The Cheat comes back}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Will you, um, fix me some... mustard crackers?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{angry The Cheat noises}''

''{The Cheat exits again. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*When Strong Bad says "Butt's Twelve by Pies," click the screen to see a [[Playbills|playbill]] for a play with the same name, directed by Homsar.
{{playbill|Butt's Twelve By Pies|A picture of Homsar traveling with a stick, coming to a fork in the road|A Super-short Play Directed by Homsar Starring: lighting & set decoration}}

*Click the Cheatcake at the end to see a box of [[The Cheatcakes]] and a jingle. You can keep closing the box and clicking the Cheatcake to make a round.
:'''SINGER:''' Only liars and thieves eat [[Grumblecakes]], and those people go to prison. Just ask The Cheat!
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Cheat noises; translation in subtitles:}'' Those people go to prison!

== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#hypou blade|hypou blade]]".

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad seemingly [[Wikipedia:Hammerspace|pulled the lab clothes out of nowhere]].

===Goofs===
*When Strong Bad and Homestar are talking, the Compy still has what Strong Bad typed, yet when he goes to type again, it's all missing.

===Glitches===
*If you play the Grumblecakes song (See Easter Eggs) and close it while it's playing, the song will continue playing, but the logo isn't there.
*Continually clicking the Cheatcake at the end will make the song play over the top of itself.

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Intellivision|Intellivision]] was a game console from the Atari 2600 era.
*Homestar shouting "Science!" is a possible reference to [[Wikipedia:Magnus Pyke|Magnus Pyke]], a UK media figure who attempted to explain science to laypeople and appeared in [[Wikipedia:Thomas Dolby|Thomas Dolby's]] song "[http://thomas-dolby.the-lyrics.com/she-blinded-me-with-science-021734.html She Blinded Me with Science]." Pyke frequently would proclaim, "Science!"
*It is also a possible reference to [[Wikipedia:Bill Nye|Bill Nye]], who would also frequently proclaim "Science!" on ''[[Wikipedia:Bill Nye the Science Guy|Bill Nye the Science Guy]]''.

===Fast Forward===
*Strong Bad later admits in [[do over]] that he wishes he had tried a Cheatcake because "those things looked a-pretty good!"
*Strong Bad tapes his Grumblecakes song over the Cheatcakes jingle in the [[time capsule]] Easter egg.

== DVD Version ==
*The Butt's Twelve By Pies Easter egg is viewable using the angle button on your DVD remote.
*You can't make a round with the Cheatcakes jingle anymore.

== External Links ==
{{preforumsbemailextlinks|98}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}

Original Book

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[[Image:Original Book Cover.PNG|thumb|The book that started it all]]
'''The Homestar Runner Enters the Strongest Man in the World Contest''' is the original children's book that started it all. The story is bizarre, but shows signs of the greatness to come. The archive in the [[Museum|museum]] includes the story plus some alternate cover ideas.

The Homestar Runner, Pom Pom, Strong Bad, and three others enter the Strongest Man in the World Contest. "Whoever holds the most grapes, wins." Strong Bad tries to cheat with the help of a furry yellow animal, from that point aptly named The Cheat.

Strong Bad later made a [[Strumstar Hammer|revised edition]] of the story in the email "[[kids' book]]." The book was also spoofed in the 100th email "[[flashback]]," which in turn inspired [[Main Page 20]]. There were also plans for a [[Homestar Runner Goes For The Gold!|sequel]], sketches for which appeared in the [[Sketchbook (museum)|Museum Sketchbook]], but the idea was eventually scrapped.

A modernized and animated version was made ten years later, in the form of [[Strongest Man in the World]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Mr. Bland}}, {{Film|The Robot (storybook)}}, {{Film|Señor}}, {{Film|The Announcer}}, {{Film|The Grape Fairie}}, [[The Fat Bee]]

__FORCETOC__

== Background ==
*In an [http://members.shaw.ca/kevinscott/Homestar/index.html interview], [[Mike Chapman]] tells how he and [[Craig Zobel]] started the story in 1996:
:"Just a story we made one afternoon, went to Kinko's, made about ten or fifteen copies of it, and kind of gave it to our friends, and that was it, really, for several years. We just did that in the summer. We were in college, and did it in a bored afternoon."

*[[Matt Chapman]] also talks about the book in the [[Club Aquatica Interview - 29 Oct 2003|Club Aquatica Interview]]:

:"Well, we were just looking around in a bookstore in the Children's book section, and we were kinda bored, we didn't see anything that we really liked, so we decided to make our own, you know, just as a joke to make fun of Kids' books. So we wrote The Homestar Runner Enters the Strongest Man in the World contest, and I think that that's still in the Museum right now."

== The Story ==
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! width="200px" | Image description !! Text !! width="120px" | Image Alternate Text !! width="120px" | Link
|-
| ''Homestar Runner is standing in an empty field'' || The original children's book that started it all. Here's the first cover. Notice at this point he's THE Homestar Runner. (July 96) || || [[HR:book1.html|View Page 1]]
|-
| ''Homestar is standing on an orange star background'' || The alternate, construction paper cover. A little less embarassing. (Sept 96) || supa punchtime! || [[HR:book2.html|View Page 2]]
|-
| ''Homestar is standing on a diamond-patterned background'' || The 'I'm just learning Photoshop' remix of the cover. (July 97) And now, onto the story... || Oh, Pollette! || [[HR:book3.html|View Page 3]]
|-
| ''Homestar is standing in front of a star'' || Everybody loves the Homestar Runner. He is a terrific athlete. || big head, tiny legs || [[HR:book4.html|View Page 4]]
|-
| ''Homestar and Pom Pom are standing in a field'' || One day, his friend, Pom-Pom, asked him to enter the Strongest Man in the World Contest. || pom-pom's beady eyes || [[HR:book5.html|View Page 5]]
|-
| ''Homestar and Pom Pom are lifting weights'' || The Homestar Runner agreed, and the two trained for days and days to become the strongest men in the world. || pom-pom's beady eyes || [[HR:book6.html|View Page 6]]
|-
| ''Strong Bad and The Cheat stand next to Homestar and Pom Pom in the field'' || On the way to the contest, another competitor, Strong Bad, made fun of them. "I'm the very strongest! You guys are not very strong!" || pom-pom's beady eyes || [[HR:book7.html|View Page 7]]
|-
| ''Mr. Bland, The Robot, and Señor stand in ovals on the background'' || The contestants: Mr. Bland, The Robot (last year's winner), Señor... || pom-pom's beady eyes || [[HR:book8.html|View Page 8]]
|-
| ''Pom Pom, Strong Bad, and Homestar also stand in ovals'' || ...Pom-Pom, Strong Bad, The Homestar Runner. || pom-pom's beady eyes || [[HR:book9.html|View Page 9]]
|-
| ''The Grape Fairie is flying over the contestants on a Bumble Bee, while The Announcer holds up a sheet of paper with the rules'' || Upon their arrival, the rules were explained: The Grape Fairie starts everyone off with twenty grapes, then adds one at a time. Whoever holds the most grapes, wins. || pom-pom's beady eyes || [[HR:book10.html|View Page 10]]
|-
| ''The grape fairie is granting each contestant twenty grapes'' || The Grape Fairie granted each of them twenty grapes. || pom-pom's beady eyes|| [[HR:book11.html|View Page 11]]
|-
| ''Mr. Bland's legs are seen under his pile of grapes with the caption "SQUISH"'' || Mr. Bland did not hold up. || pom-pom's beady eyes|| [[HR:book12.html|View Page 12]]
|-
| ''The grape fairie is putting another grape on each pile of grapes'' || The Grape Fairie added another grape. || pom-pom's beady eyes || [[HR:book13.html|View Page13]]
|-
| ''Señor is seen being squished under his grapes, with the caption "SPLURT"'' || Senor was NOT the strongest man in the world. || havin a little trouble || [[HR:book14.html|View Page 14]]
|-
| ''Four grapes are seen on the ground by The Robot's foot, and The Cheat is seen running away from an electrical socket with The Robot's plug on the ground'' || Suddenly, the Robot shut down and dropped his grapes. Homestar knew something was up. || where's the plug? || [[HR:book15.html|View Page 15]]
|-
| ''Another grape is being added to the piles of the final three contestants'' || There were only three contestants left. Another grape was added. || where's the plug? || [[HR:book16.html|View Page 16]]
|-
| ''Homestar is in the forground, noticing The Cheat helping Strong Bad hold his grapes in the background'' || Homestar noticed that Strong Bad was getting some extra help. "I will drop my grapes and uncover that CHEAT!" || where's the plug? || [[HR:book17.html|View Page 17]]
|-
| ''Homestar's pile of grapes is on the ground, and Homestar is kicking The Cheat from under Strong Bad's pile, causing Strong Bad to wobble'' || The Homestar Runner yanked the cheat out from under the pile of grapes. "OH NO!" screamed Strong Bad. || where's the plug? || [[HR:book18.html|View Page 18]]
|-
| ''Strong Bad is seen under his pile of grapes and Homestar is standing next to Pom Pom, who is still holding his grapes'' || Strong Bad was squished and Pom-Pom won. || squisha squisha squisha || [[HR:book19.html|View Page 19]]
|-
| ''Homestar and Pom Pom are each wearing medals and are holding a trophy between them, while The Grape Fairie is flying in the background'' || Knowing that he could not have done it without The Homestar Runner's help, Pom-Pom shared the trophy. || WORLD BEST || [[HR:book20.html|View Page 20]]
|}

== Fun Facts ==
*The caption describing [[Señor]] being squished is missing the tilde above the n.

== External links ==
* [[HR:firstbook.swf|View the Flash file for the Original Book]]
* [[HR:book1.html|View the old Original Book]]
{{Museum}}
[[Category: Early Work]]
[[Category: Books]]

Talk:Original Book

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Any ideas on how to categorize this page? - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 19:44, 27 Oct 2004 (MST)

[[:Category: Early Work]] it is - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 00:42, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Copyright violation ==
Other than the introduction and background, I don't think there's anything on this page that one couldn't get simply from watching the toon. Additionally, I think that reproducing the "book" in its entirity (complete with images) is even more of a copyright violation than we normally do (that is to say, if anything crosses the line, this does for sure). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:06, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Hey, you wrote the same exact word-for-word thing on the Where My Hat Is At? discussion! Cool. --[[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]] 04:55, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Yep. It's the same issue in both instances. Copy and paste makes everything easier. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:49, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I added a secret STRONG BAD VERSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Strongbad handles this book the same way he does with [[kids' book]] and that decemberween version thingy. --[[User:Darklinkskywalker|Darklinkskywalker]] 00:03, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I just found out that the peeps at [adult swim] this week in their pre 12:30 AM bump Monday through Wednesday used the Strong Bad quote "I am the very strongest. You guys are not that strong." from the book. It was used with what looked like a crudly drawn characture of a tough guy P\/\//\/I/\/G a fallen victim with his head ripped off from his neck. [[User:James Craven|James Craven]] July 14th, 2005 9:28 AM US EDT.

== purchase? ==

is there anywhere I can purchase or check out this book?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 19:24, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
:To quote Mike, "Just a story we made one afternoon, went to Kinko's, made about ten or fifteen copies of it, and kind of gave it to our friends, and that was it, really, for several years. We just did that in the summer. We were in college, and did it in a bored afternoon." So there's only a few copies in the world, belonging to the Brothers Chaps' friends. It's unlikely that you'll find one. Although... It would be an awesome edition to the [[Store]], I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::That would be awesome. TBC, if you're reading this... you shoud totally do that. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:28, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

== Alternate text ==

The alt. text for the book isn't "Pom Pom's Beady Eyes" for every page after page one. It changes to "havin' a little trouble" when Senor is crushed, then to "Where's the plug?" on the next page. It stays that way until Strong Bad is squished, when it becomes "squisha squisha squisha", then finally on the last page it's "WORLD BEST". I'd change it myself, but I'm not sure how best to format it

== NPOV ==

Is it just me, or does the following sentence sound completely opinionated?
:"The story is bizarre, but shows signs of the greatness to come."

It's not as bad as the old version...
:"It's a rather weird story, and only has some of the characters, but it's still pretty cool."
--[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk:retirement

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== I got a great image of the easter egg ==

Click on Strong Bads diamond while he's talking to the [[Compy 386]] and the [[Tandy 400]] to see this

http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Eastereggretirement.PNG

== Text to egg. ==

This is the text to the egg... I don't know how to format it though. :S I apologize, I'm still learning.

''[list moved to article]''

[[User:Ivysaur|Ivysaur]] 10:58, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== There's more easter eggs strewn about this email ==

After the Horses/IT Pros joke, the chimney pipe can be clicked to show a Dullard comic about such a thing. There's also a couple of clickable squares on the Lappy screen before the TSoND; can't figure out what they do though.

Also, click on the plugs underneath the desk after the Tandy explodes for the pixelated explosion again. {{unsigned|81.178.84.219|10:57, 2 October 2006}}
:Good find :-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:02, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

==Links?==
There seems to be no links on the website itself to the email, only here. How will the General Public SEE it?
--[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 11:06, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:It's on the email manu. Clear you cache, maybe. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:09, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== Goof ==

The lappy seems to still have all its keys, despite one of them being removed in [[cliffhangers]]. --[[User:60.229.93.56|60.229.93.56]] 11:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:Well spotted. You could have just added directly to the article.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== resolved ?s in retirement article ==

Hello, I don't have an account, and am having trouble with the editing, so could somebody please change the "?s" in the article? the first ? is "half-FULL bags." the other is "italian herb-CHIPOTLE". thanks.
:Glad to see that you did manage to change it yourself :-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:53, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== Possible Read-World Reference ==

The filenames you get when you click SB's diamond are heavily truncated and abbreviated, and match the style of old DOS [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8.3 8.3] names (that's in length... 8 letters, a period, and three more letters) that were in use before long file names were made possible through Windows. Such names were used so filenames could still be descriptive and still fit within the 8.3 limitations at the same time. However SB's filenames are still clearly far too long to fit within 8.3 characters. --[[User:64.195.243.2|64.195.243.2]] 14:12, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== Lil' Brudder ==

I Noticed That When Strong Bad Is Panicing Around Under The Lappys Tail, That It Plays The Same Noise As Lil' Brudder's "Leg Failing" -- [[User:Assassinator666|Assassinator666]] 14:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I think it's Homsar's walking noise.
:Oh, Didn't Realise That They're The Same. My Bad. -- [[User:Assassinator666|Assassinator666]] 14:47, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
::That sound is used A LOT on the site. It was in cliffhangers too, when the Thnikkaman was waddling away. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 15:15, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== Goof-Tastic ==

I Saw This, And I Think It's A Goof.
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/10/27410375642.jpg
It's When Homestar And Strongbad Are At The Computer, And This Is From The Flash File. -- [[User:Assassinator666|Assassinator666]] 14:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:Things that happen outside the frame don't count as Goofs. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

:: Ok, Didn't Know, Will Take Into Account In The Future -- [[User:Assassinator666|Assassinator666]] 14:47, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
::: But that would be remarkable, don't you think? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:31, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== Which computers? ==

I noticed the Lappy is listed as a computer for this toon along with the Tandy. Yet, the Lappy's not actually used to answer an email. Is there another reason it's listed on top? Or is that a mistake? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:24, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:I wrote that out of habbit, and I think you're right. I'll fix it. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:50, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, Strong Bad finished answering the full E-Mail with the Lappy.

== Real World Reference ==

What about the who-dunit and the 7-eleven/Simpsons Who Shot Mr. Burns? Contest?

Also, what about the [http://www.buck-o-nine.com Buck-O-Nine] Reference?

: The contest reminds me more of the Butterfinger/Simpsons contest with who stole Bart's butterfinger or something like that. since something was STOLEN, not shot. [[User:Yadaman|Yadaman]] 23:20, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

:: forgot to mention, I'm not sure if this is true for the 7-Eleven one, but in the Butterfinger one, the person who did it was near completely unexpected and kind of a shock ending, similar to this one (we all thought it was a person, and BAM! it was the old computers). [[User:Yadaman|Yadaman]] 23:23, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

::Candies have had a long tradition of having things stolen. Cheetos, Smarties (Canadian ones anyway), M&M's, lots of stuff. TTATOT ftw!

==How will it check==
Should we mention that while the Tandy continued to check emails after it broke, the Compy was thrown away immediately after breaking? I mean, how can it check an email with that gaping hole? -[[User:71.192.94.44|71.192.94.44]] 19:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:Guess we'll find out tomorrow, eh? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Remember, this is the Talk for this page, not the Forum. As for noting that the Tandy checked emails after breaking, that's already noted on the Tandy page, and it wouldn't belong here anyway. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:17, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

make a bigger hole duh!

== Back button added late? ==

Can anyone else verify that the Back button did not originally appear? I watched this a couple hours ago and I could swear there wasn't a Back button that time around. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 21:08, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:It was definitely there half an hour after release.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:29, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== Can I get a witness? ==

No real-world reference for this? My first thought was actually Grand Funk Railroad's "Some Kind of Wonderful" (which I have heard), but after some research I suppose the often-covered [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can_I_Get_a_Witness Marvin Gaye title] (which I have not heard) is more likely.
:There's no real-world reference because the fact is [[HRWiki:Glossary#T|TTATOT]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 21:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

::Besides Gaye's and GFR's songs, there's Frank Black's song. All three were suggested as references, but they can't all be, so no reference. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:07, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== Sad eyes? ==
[[Image:Sadbad.png|thumb|The saddest of Bads...]]
At the beginning, Strong Bad's eyes are sad (the top halves are taken off). Isn't this noteworthy since it doesn't happen very often?
:I don't recall it ever happening. Let's get a few more keen observers to chime in though. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:28, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
::Wait... that [[:Image:sbemail127.png|has]] happened before... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:52, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:'''EC''' It ''is'' a rare occurrence, and it was noted at its first appearance in [[long pants]]. I tend to think that the "coming in on a worried Strong Bad" bit in the transcript is sufficient for this article, since it has happened and has been noted before. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:56, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
{{clear}}
But in the long pants one, he's showing exasperation. In this one it's slanted for sadness. Just saying...
:They're just partially closed. Or open, depending on your attitude. Either way, we're seeing his eyelids. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 01:44, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

IMO, we should mention this occurance, since it conveys a different emotion than the "long pants look". - [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]

== DULLARD = Dilbert ==

I think it's pretty clear that Dullard by "Levert Burtmore" is a reference to Dilbert by Scott Adams. Do we need a vote on this or should I just go ahead and add it? --[[User:Sailor titan|Sailor titan]] 22:20, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
:Already mentioned on the [[Dullard (comic)|Dullard]] page. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 22:22, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== Saving the orphanage ==

The remark about saving the orphanage reminded me of the Blues Brothers, but I'll let you guys decide if it's worthy enough for the real-world references section.

First thing that came to my mind. Glad I'm not the only one Anonny. I say yes! -- [[User: TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] -- Here, now, on my time.

It's kind of standard drama, saving the orphanage, saving the orphans. Hey, maybe it's Ibsen's ''Ghosts.''

== extra buttons? ==

dont know what they do but did anyone else notice 2 small useless buttons on the lappy's screen in the rooftop scene?
:'''edit conflict''' I think those're just the contrast buttons on the Tandy, they're clickable but they don't do anything. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 02:37, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

==Goof==

In the Flash version, when Strong Bad is slinking off to Bubs' Concession Stand, when Strong Bad goes out of the frame, his body disappears.

That's completely normal. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 02:36, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

:His head doesn't. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:46, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
::So? His body has lots more moving parts. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 16:01, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

== What year is it? ==

How many times now has Strong Bad gotten the year wrong? There's #150, there's the comic convention, this one, any others?

:That's not altogether true. In regards to 150, he quickly corrected himself at the end ("All my Strong Bad doppelg䀀ngers represent... Sesquicentenn-email, 2005— I-I mean six."). And here he says, "Now, let's check emails like it was the deuce double-ought dweice! It just means 2002..." He said, "Like it was." [[User:MHarrington|MHarrington]] 05:03, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

== Buck OR nine ==

I'm almost certain that SB is saying "Everybody's trying to make a buck OR nine off of my etc. etc." Listen to it with a good pair of headphones and the "R" sound comes through quite clearly. By extension, I think that the "Buck o' Nine" CA ska band reference is quite unlikely. -[[User:TobyTheRobot|TobyTheRobot]] 03:03, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

== Real-world reference that hasn't been mentioned ==

Marshie's body when he says "Win Big" is likely meant to be a parody of the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man from Ghostbusters

== Slink? ==

I'm positive that "Slink" is a reference to "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" (the TV special) because they say "slink" and he moves just like it... I even told my sis about how Strong Bad moved off the couch and her first reaction was "Oh, from the Grinch!" I'm desperately trying to find my copy so I can confirm this. Can I get a witness?
:What about Slinkys? They slink. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
::In a very similar fashion, too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I'm pretty sure it was "slunk" in ''How the Grinch Stole Christmas'', as in past tense...not sure if that might make the smallest difference in the argument... --[[User:BlueStar|BlueStar]] 05:47, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

== Long filenames ==

The 8.3 filename restriction wasn't anything to do with FAT16 vs. FAT32; "long filename" support was introduced in windows with the "vfat" driver, which came ''before'' FAT32 came around. The two things happened at around the same time, but they're not related in any way.

[[User:67.175.119.37|67.175.119.37]] 01:36, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

==Eenie, meenie, miney, moe...==
*Strong Bad has no problem typing commas on the Lappy, despite its missing "toe".
Is this fun fact really worth noting? Most keys have a little spring or rubber thing below them, so it's not ''that'' hard to type if you're missing a key. I don't think it must be removed, but I'm inclined against keeping it.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 08:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
: We don't know how much of the key was removed. I'm for keeping it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:02, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
::I think it works well as a remark, which is how it's currently categorized (I'd object to it being labelled as a goof). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:41, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Maybe you should ask Strong Bad how he types commas without comma keys. I bet you'll get a speedy answer. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:48, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
: I know from personal experience that yes, it is possible even if the rubber knob and spring had also been removed. It's VERY hard (like it'll work 1 time out of 10) but if you press hard enough on the shiny part of it, sometimes it'll work. -[[User:WarthogDemon|WarthogDemon]] 23:25, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

== Gears and Fans ==

I hardly think its necessary for a computer to have working "gears and fans" to run. Certainly not gears anyway, and fans is highly debatable. --[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 09:01, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
:I exploded the cooling system in my mom's computer and it continued to work fine. Well, maybe not "fine" (it freezes up whenever the CPU gets too hot), but I'm sure Strong Bad could continue to check email, especially since the '''giant hole''' in the screen would provide additional cooling. He just better not tax it too much by trying to play Peasant's Quest.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 09:04, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, if you want to really be technical, the gears and fan would make up part of the monitor and it would actually be a cathode ray tube considering the suggested age of the computer. In this case, the monitor would not work at all because the electron gun would have been completely blasted out of the monitor by the shotgun blast. But, when has reality ever limited what's possible in the Homestar Runner universe? --Eaglescout1984 10:44, 3 October 2006 (GMT)
:::I have four words for you: IT'S...A...FREAKIN'...CARTOON!!! :D --[[User:128.120.173.11|128.120.173.11]] 17:43, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, we know. Look at Eaglescout's last sentence. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar]] 20:21, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
::Of course, a computer that old wouldn't need a fan or heat sink for cooling anyway... - [[User:68.108.243.128|68.108.243.128]] 00:50, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

==Marzipan's Hair?==

It appeared to me that Marzipan's hair was just tied up, as many a gymnast or contortionist is oft to do.

--I'd be inclined to agree with you, unless we see it like that again. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 12:34, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

--That was certainly my first thought, that it was tied up in a bun or something. (Wasn't it originally listed like that on the wiki?)
--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 14:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

:I agree tied up not cut. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

::It appears to have a line over the top of the bun, suggesting her hair was braided then twisted into said bun. :P --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]] 19:13, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

--I thought it was partially burned off in [[keep cool]], and that's why she re-styled it. [[User:68.249.168.130|Anonymous]] 10:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
---I like that answer actually--[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 18:02, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

==Concerning Automatic hole formatting!==

Sorry, new to Wiki-editing, but I was wondering if that fact that Strongbad's reply is in this e-mail doesn't seem to fully conform to the compy's auto hole formatting would count as a goof? --[[User:Ilascott|Ilascott]]
:I'm pretty sure it's intentional, so no, I don't think it would count. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 14:42, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

==Lappy's "toe" missing==

It isn't a goof, because it was a goof in part A.

== "I give you...Kong, the eighth wonder of the world!" ==

I'm trying to add the fact that, though "the eighth wonder of the world" is applied a lot, Strong Bad's use is almost certainly a direct reference to the most famous, Carl Denham's carnival-barker-like use of the term to introduce Kong in captivity in the classic 1933 film "King Kong." However, it keeps getting undone, instantly.

I've seen the movie enough times that it was the first thing to come to mind when Strong Bad used the term. In fact, that's the most famous one, as I said; furthermore, the combination of Strong Bad as carnival barker, and the fact that he's introducing Strong Mad, seems to make it extremely plausible. I stand by it.--[[User:128.120.173.11|128.120.173.11]] 17:38, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
:What you're saying is not implausible, but it's not necessarily likely either. I thought more of Kong when I saw The Cheat chained to the ground. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:17, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
:There are a few possible kong references throughout the email. The above two that you have stated and also the Donky Kong reference when SB is dancing around in DK fassion in the last email. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:35, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
:[[Wikipedia:Eighth Wonder of the World|Check this out.]] It's not unique to King Kong. Or Donkey Kong. Or... Funky Kong? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:28, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Added to Wikipedia. :D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Wonder_of_the_World#Other --[[User:86.112.236.105|86.112.236.105]] 10:24, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
: Don't even make it look like you're trying to vandalize other Wikis. Additionally, Strong Mad's not the eighth wonder of the world, he's the ate-thh wonder of the world. ;) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:39, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

==Leviathan?==

Should "Leviathan" be a real-world reference? It's a sea monster in the Old Testament. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan] I know it's also a book by Hobbes, but given that it's referring to Brother Graw Mad here, I'm thinking the sea-monster allusion is the right one. - [[User:Rasmoh|Rasmoh]] 18:20, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
:I think so too. And it should be an explanation, not an RWR.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 18:40, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

==No 404 page==

The place where the page would normally be if it weren't a two-parter,http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail159.html, has no 404 page.
[[User:66.24.3.156|66.24.3.156]] 15:16, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
:It has the same 404 error for me as it does for any other nonexistant page on the site... namely the stock [[Wikipedia:IIS|IIS]] error message ([[404'd]] is down over the whole site for some unknown reason). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:20, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

== Return of the Tandy ==

The following fact was [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=retirement_B&curid=28075&diff=372494&oldid=372460&rcid=322707 proposed], which I like, even though I think it's too much of a stretch. The two do bear some interesting similarities, though.
*The the appearance of the ghosts of Tandy and Compy watching over as Strong Bad and Lappy are happily walking in the sunset may be a reference to the end of [[Wikipedia:Return of the Jedi|Return of the Jedi]] when the ghosts of [[Wikipedia:Obi Wan|Obi Wan]], [[Wikipedia:Anikan Skywalker|Anikan Skywalker]], and [[Wikipedia:Yoda|Yoda]] appear during the victory celebration.
{{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:25, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
:I agree that it's too much of a stretch, but I'm glad you have it here. I like any potential reference to Star Wars, especially since (as far as I know) TBC have never done any overt ones. - [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 04:29, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=%22star+wars%22&go=Go Check for yourself]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I think that this has been done on purpose. TBC have made reference to the abundance of flash Star Wars parodies, and made that unaired sbemail where StrongBad makes greeting cards to console people whose Star Wars parodies sucked.

==Rename plan of action==
So... what should we do? Move everything here and make [[retirement]], [[retirement A]] and [[retirement B]] redirects? With appropriate mentions in Trivia, of course? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

:That would make sense to me. I wasn't sure what to do when I started the page, so I left it out there to see what would happen. - Jason
: I'm for keeping the old ones, myself. Especially if the Flash files are still there (the html files aren't, but I haven't checked the Flash yet.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:25, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
: Ooookay, so they're not there any more. Still, I'm for keeping the old ones, but if consensus is to remove them, then fine. I won't be happy about it, but it won't be the first time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:26, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
::There are quite a few changes between the old ones and the new ones, keeping the old pages wouldn't be a bad idea. Esspecially if the old flash files are archived somewhere. - Jason
:::I guess that makes sense. I'm still for making [[retirement]] a redirect rather than a disambig, and then put {{tl|about}} and {{tl|for}} at the top of the page. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:44, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
::::As long as the changes between the originals and the new combined one are well documented I'll be happy either way. But I'd be slightly happier w/ keeping the old pages. [[User:Atw4299|Atw4299]] 09:45, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'm guessing the (combined) will disappear in a week or so. Because it won't make sense to future new viewers as is. But anyway, we definitely shouldn't have a duplicate transcript like this.I think we shoud all merge them here, and put something in trivia and maybe post the mirrors in the external links. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, I'll bet you one million lbs of candy that ultimately the name on the Denny's menu will just be [[retirement]], which is where this article should probably be. And I don't think we should maintain separate pages of nearly-identical information, as it violates the [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|once-and-only-once]] rule. The other pages should be redirects, with the differences from previous versions explained somewhere. Oh, and I [[forumpost:470869|totally called this]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:01, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::My counterargument comes in the form of five words: [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]]. That is all. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:31, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::My argument comes in two words: [[crazy cartoon]]. The flash files for A and B are not even on the site anymore which is why I think they should be deleted. -{{User:Jeppo/sig}} 16:49, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::As Denny's lists this as "retirement (combined)", and the two halves no longer exist, my vote is to 1) drop our grapes, 2) check to be sure no info has been forgotten on the A and B pages, 3) '''delete''' retirments A and B and possibly the retirment disambig page, and 4) unmask that Cheat. The links to the mirrored half-emails can be linked from here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Ow... your vote is succulently crushing my windpipe. I'm all for that one. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 19:00, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Process has begun. We need to go through the incoming links to the A and B page to be sure everything's fixed right. This'll take a little time or a few people working together. Oh, and we need to leave the subtitle transcripts alone, so the mirrors can use them. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:I question the need to physically delete retirement A and B. They don't hurt anything as redirects, and the history can always be viewed to see how the toons originally existed seperately. Just like we don't delete older revisions of any page, retirement A and B are older revisions of this page, which was mostly copied and pasted. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:44, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
::I'd support keeping them around as redirects if there's conmsensus for it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:::We could even merge the histories if we wanted, but the redirects should stay, if only because there are links to the separate pages out there in InternetLand (for example, on various forums, including our own). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:50, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Merging the history would be a bad idea, since they overlap in time... the edits would be sorted by time, and the edits from the two pages would be all mixed up with each other... it would just get confusing. I say just leave them as is. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

==Can I Get A Reference?==

Am I right in thinking that when Strong Bad says "Can I get a witness?", it's a reference to Some Kind of Wonderful by Grand Funk Railroad? I know TBC probably don't listen to that kind of stuff, but the quote jumped out at me as that song lyric. What do you guys think? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 20:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:Or "Can I Get A Witness" by Marvin Gaye, or "Can I Get A Witness?" by Run-DMC, or... See also [http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=705808 this page]... it's a common phrase. This was also [[Talk:retirement A#Can I get a witness?|already discussed]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:16, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
::Oh. Right. Sorry. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 20:13, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

==Easter Egg Tie?==

From [[flashback]]: ''This email has the most Easter eggs in any email to date, with eight.'' As far as I can tell, this email now ties that record of eight, if you don't merge the seperate easter eggs of clicking on the Tandy's contrast knobs, and clicking on the Compy's contrast knobs, at the end. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

== Just wondering... ==

Would it be worth mentioning that this is the second time the Lappy exploded? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 23:25, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
: Lappy? Explode? I must have missed that. ;) (I assume you meant "Tandy".) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

== Umm... ==

Did any of you notice that Homestar's mouth doesn't move when he and Strong Bad sing, 'Deleted?'
It's noticable before the Tandy's closeup. -Sumgirl

==Mountain Dew Reference==
When Homestar pours mountain dew on the floor - reference to when SB pours out a cold one for his peoples what got sent up the river?
:No, a reference to what THAT was a reference to - as is noted, I believe. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 08:55, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

==Song and Dance man==

Does anyone else think that this is a reference to Andy Kaufman, who would usually refer to himself as being just that, or is it an ordinary phrase in america? [[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 16:27, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah it could be... But I think Andy Kaufman was referring more to the old timey "song and dance" men when he was using the phrase as an alternative to being considered a "comedian" which he loathed.

==Missing Toe==

Lappy says she wants to find her toe, and the two computers jump away... even though Strong Bad has had the toe all along because it was left with the ransom note in "cliffhangers."

==Hush Puppies==
Ok, so whats wrong with my post? Hush Puppies are a brand of shoe, so why can't I add it to the article? It still makes sense. :\ --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 18:51, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
:It's a lot more likely that it refers to the food thing, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I understand your agrument but that doesn't rule out the shoes. Computers can't eat OR wear shoes. I just think it's fair to add both. I admit I should've added it here for others to comment on it though, before adding it.--[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 18:57, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
:::"We can all go out for hushpuppies." "We can go out for food" is more likely than "we can go out for shoes". No one says "let's go out for shoes. You guys still like shoes, right?" --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::: A lot of people like shoes and shop for shoes. It's certainly very possible. I think we should have a vote on it at least. --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 19:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::"We can all go out for hushpuppies" is not the kind of phrase that you use when you shop for shoes. Also, The Paper says "I like hushpuppies". Note the lowercase.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:17, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::I originally wrote the hushpuppy fact. I had only heard of the shoe myself, but after doing a little research, it was clear that if it's a reference to anything it's a reference to the food. Really, going out for Hush Puppies makes little sense, and as we see they don't split it into two capitalized words, it makes it even less likely the shoe is what's being referred to. Remember, when we cite references and explanations, we have to consider not just "does it have similarities" but more pointedly "is it likely this is what TBC had in mind here". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:10, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::The inference that the majority of people who watch this don't even know that a shoe called Hush Puppies exists should be enough to have the fact changed so that it only mentions the food. I didn't know about either, but I assumed it was food. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 21:18, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I've heard of both long before this toon even came out. However, since Hush Puppies the shoe brand makes no sense, and since I worked in a fast food restaurant that served hushpuppies when I was in college, the food hushpuppies makes more sense to me. (They're actually fairly commonly placed with seafood, at least in the eastern parts of the country. Have yet to see any hushpuppies at all in the Seattle area.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:29, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

== 119 ==

Could "number 119 deleted" be the 119th e-mail Strong Bad has deleted, or does it repersent email 119([[animal]])?
:The fun facts say animal. Checking the [[DELETED]] page, it doesn't appear to be 119 listed. Of course, it could just be random, too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Order in the court ==

When I added the "Changes" section, I put the facts in chronological order, as we do with Easter eggs and cast lists. It's dot com then rearranged it, putting them in functional order (for instance, grouping differences based on the missing comma key together. I don't want to get into an edit war over this, so let's put it to the vote. Chronological or functional? I'm with '''chronological''', of course. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:26, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
:Or we could discuss it. The list is in ''mostly'' chronological order, but the most important part is now first (describing how they were actually combined), and the two parts about the commas are together. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:33, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
::Discussing it always seems either turn into a vote or fizzle into nothing anyway when there are two people who disagree. I was just trying to beat it there. >_> Anyway, I'm just not sure that the "combining" aspect ''is'' the most important part; that's very subjective. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:38, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
:::If the combining aspect is not the most important change, then what is? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:41, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
::::To be clear that we're talking about the same thing, the note at the top of the section already says that they were combined; what I meant was that the part about the paper's absence and the fade-in/out wasn't necessarily the most important part. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'm still not sure I agree, but I no longer disagree enough for it to be out of chronological order, so I put it back like you had it. See? We didn't need a vote after all, just a talk. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:53, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

== Tandy is already "dead"! ==
The Lappy was seen as a ghost in Email 48, yet now it's back in physical form - that's a bit strange. I'm not an experienced wiki editor, so if this doesn't belong in "Inside References" please move it to where it does belong.
— Joshua 17:15 11 October 2006 (UTC) {{unsigned|207.67.97.70|17:15 11 October 2006 (UTC)}}

DorianGray, why did you remove my edit? "The king had its physical body" does not make the unusual situation normal. If I saw your ghost while you were still alive, that's even wierder than if I saw your ghost when you were dead. This requires an answer, or I will replace my change. {{unsigned|207.67.97.70|22:29 11 October 2006 (UTC)}}

:HRWiki is not the place for philosophical debates about matters of the soul, even as they apply to personified electrical appliances... suffice it to say that computers, unlike humans, can be repaired from beyond the brink of death, so after being repaired at least enough to function as a sparking mess (possibly by the KoT, possibly by Bubs, who knows?) who's to say that the Tandy's spirit didn't return to the physical computer? To claim either way would be complete speculation on a matter that TBC have made no attempt to nail down, and thus not worthy of mention on the page. If you do want to discuss this, perhaps the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewforum.php?f=13 "Religion and Politics" section of the forum] would be more appropriate... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

: Anyway, the ''Lappy'' never died. How could you confuse the Lappy for the Tandy?! '''Lap'''py = '''lap'''top. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

== Wait a freakin' minute Stanley! ==

70.21.131.249 added the FF:

"On the tandy when you put the contross buttons up a little they will restart when homestar appears with the mountain dew"

I won't pretend to understand that. Then Jay reverted it with this summary:

"This only happens in like every single Tandy/Compy email ever!"

Can any party offer some sort of explanation as to why any of this transpired? Thanks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
:He probably means that the Tandy's contrast is reset when the toon cuts from SB typing to a wider shot that includes Homestar.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
::Exactly. In no email ever have the contrast settings been maintained between scene cuts. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

==Piped Links==

What is the standard for piped links? Should we be using <nowiki>[[retirement (combined)|retirement]], or just [[retirement (combined)]]</nowiki> until it's renamed, if it is at all. I don't see the point of piping the links. [[User:70.70.150.54|70.70.150.54]]
:You're right. It's officially called [[retirement (combined)]], so that's how we should call it too.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:24, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
::I've been using the unpiped links myslef... Except, maybe one time where I piped it to show about A and B as separate. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Then there's a couple of fixes due [[Special:Contributions/Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|here]] then, for whoever's interested. [[User:70.70.150.54|70.70.150.54]]

retirement

Boshi — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 02:02:23 GMT

Boshi: retirement (combined) moved to FUCKING FUCK THE FUCK OF FUCKING FUCKER FUCKS!!: Basic page-move troll. For the love of god, block me before I do more!

{{sbenav|159|cliffhangers|some kinda robot}}
[[Image:sbemail159a.png|thumb|"Perfect! Now I'm out of my anti-depressant."]]
The Lappy-nappers are revealed! Can Strong Bad save his beloved fold-em-up computer?

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Marshie}}, {{Film|The Sad Kids}}, [[Marshie#Marshie's Mother|Marshie's Mother]], [[Lappy 486#Female Lappy 486|Female Lappy 486]], [[Tandy 400]], [[Compy 386]], [[The Paper]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}

'''Places:''' [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Computer Room]], [[Carnival Tent]], [[The Field]]

'''Computers:''' [[Tandy 400]], [[Compy 386]], [[Lappy 486]] [[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]] [[Category:Compy 386 Emails]] [[Category:Lappy 486 Emails]]

'''Dates:'''
:''Part A released:'' October 2, 2006
:''Part B released:'' October 3, 2006
:''Parts A and B combined:'' October 9, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 6:53

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
''{Open in Strong Bad's computer room, coming in on a worried Strong Bad, while suspenseful music plays.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' My computer's been lappynapped!

''{A record scratches and the screen dims, Marshie comes in from the bottom of the screen.}''

'''MARSHIE:''' Hello, Kenneth!

''{Marshie flies across a yellow background.}''

'''MARSHIE:''' Hear me roar!

''{Marshie growls for a moment, then opens his mouth wide, the background turns red, sound lines come out of his mouth, and he meows. Cut to a shot of the Sad Kids standing on top of Marshie.}''

'''MARSHIE:''' That's right, kids!

''{Silhouettes of the main characters scroll across the page, with big question marks over them. As he names the sweepstakes, the name appears on the screen.}''

'''MARSHIE:''' Play the Fluffy Puff Marshmallows ''My Lappy Got Stole!'' Sweepstakes and win big!

''{As Marshie says "big", he grows a large, fat, white body, and his voice deepens. Cut to a shot of a bicycle. Marshie's voice is back to normal.}''

'''MARSHIE:''' First prize,—

''{A shot of a metal detector}''

'''MARSHIE:''' —second tries,—

''{Marshie, in a car, driving along with mountains in the background}''

'''MARSHIE:''' ''{singing}'' Take a trip to the mountains... ''{these words appear above the mountains, written on a musical staff}''

''{The screen dims and Marshie comes down from the top with a top hat and a cane.}''

'''MARSHIE:''' I'm a song and dance man!

''{Cut to a wooden desk, with a note card on it.}''

'''MARSHIE:''' Just email who you think done it on a 3x5 note card,—

''{"it was the HIPPO!" is written on the note card.}''

'''MARSHIE:''' —stick a Fluffy Puff on each corner,—

''{Four marshmallows appear, one stuck on each corner of the card. Cut to Marshie, talking through gritted teeth, in front of a portrait of an older woman.}''

'''MARSHIE:''' —and just walk away, mother...

''{Cut to Strong Bad's basement, looking at the ad on the TV. Marshie is next to a bag of Fluffy Puff Marshmallows.}''

'''MARSHIE:''' Fluffy Puff Marshmallows. Yeah! Still!

''{The words "Yeah! Still!" appear underneath Marshie. Cut to Strong Bad lying on the couch, surrounded by empty chip packets of various descriptions.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You gotta be kidding me. Man, everybody's trying to make a buck or nine off my heart-drooping loss. 

''{He feels around in the nearest bag of chips, and finds that it's empty.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, perfect. Now I'm out of my antidepressant. Nothing dulls the pain quite like several dozen half-full bags of ''{as he lists the flavorings, symbols for them appear at the top of the screen}'' Italian-herb-chipotle-buffalo-ranch-guacamole-Thai-peanut-style chippety-chomps. I guess I'll slink off to Bubs' and refill my prescription. Slinnnk...

''{Strong Bad somehow slides up and over the armrest of the couch, and off screen. Cut to Strong Bad at Bubs' Concession Stand. Bubs is nowhere to be seen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bubs! Hello? Can I get a witness? Bubs? ''{looks around the stand, and screams}''

''{Pan to the side of the stand, we see the Lappy's power cord hanging off the roof. Tense music plays.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Lappy's tail! I'll save you, Lappy-pie... boo... ''{runs back and forth anxiously, making the Homsar walking noise}'' Just keep your pixels on. Strong Bad's got everything under control-alt-delete.

''{Strong Bad picks up a ladder from behind the stand, and climbs up onto the roof.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Who put you up here— Wha?!?

''{The suspenseful music plays, and reveal the Lappy, with the broken Tandy and the shotgunned Compy. The Tandy is suspending a horseshoe magnet from a fishing rod above the Lappy's keyboard.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's my crappier and crappiest computers!

''{Both old computers fizz and spark.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Careful, guys, let's not do anything inappropriate with that magnet... I've got a lot of important text files on that 5 meg hard drive... Now just let the Lappy go, and we can all go out for hushpuppies. You guys still like hushpuppies, don't you?

''{Both old computers fizz and spark a lot.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, fine. hushpuppies are out. For some reason I... I thought you guys liked hushpuppies.

''{Both old computers keep fizzing and sparking. The Tandy also churns its floppy disk drive.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Sorry, guys, we're getting nowhere. I don't speak extravagantly broken computer.

''{The Paper comes down, reading "'Sup Strong Bad. I'll help with the translation."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Paper! You're just in time! Find out what they want!

''{The Paper goes back up, and the Compy "talks" for a bit. The Paper comes back down with "They want to come out of retirement..."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Retirement? They didn't retire, I threw them away. Ask them if they mean they want to come out of ''thrown-awayment''.

''{The Paper comes down again, reading "They're not laughing. They each want to check one last email."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Are they joking? Those guys couldn't check an email with the help of sixty horses dressed up as IT professionals!

''{The Tandy lowers the magnet a little, and the Lappy's screen turns on, showing:}''

<blockquote style="background: #06bfad; padding: 30px; width: 25em; margin: 0; border: none">
<div style="border: 1px solid black">
<p style="border-top: 2px solid white; border-left: 2px solid white; border-bottom: 2px solid #999; border-right: 2px solid #999; background: #CCC; color: black; font-size: 150%; text-align: center; line-height: 125%; margin: 0; padding: 0">
<big>Oh, Child!</big> 
It's the Teal Screen 
of Near Death! (TSoND)
</div></blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, okay, okay! I'll do my best. If it'll save the orphanage... I mean, my Lappy, I'll do it. Now, let's check emails like it was the deuce double-aught dweice!

''{Both old computers "talk".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It just means 2002... I... thought it was slick... slick-rick... way to talk...

''{Fade through black to Strong Bad with the Tandy at the email-checking desk. You hear the old typing effect. The Tandy sparks its screen throughout.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Green lines, green, green lines. It's a Strong Bad Email again.

<blockquote class="tandy email">
dearest strong bad 
do you remember the email that you deleted 
the hardest 
sincerly 
josh 
oakland
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "sincerly" as written, and "josh oakland" as "josho kland"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, let's just see here... Zero capitalization...

''{The first letters of each of "dearest", "strong", "bad", "do", "sincerly", "josh" and "oakland" are all briefly highlighted}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Misspelling...

''{The word "sincerly" is briefly highlighted}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Lack of punctuation...

''{The blank spaces after "bad", "hardest", "sincerly" and "josh" are all briefly highlighted}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Looks like a winner to me! ''{typing}'' Dearest Josho, I have some good news for you! I DO remember the email that I deleted the hardest. And I'm still remembering it right now!!! ''{stops typing}'' Homestar! Little help please.

''{Zooms out to reveal Homestar pouring a bottle of Mountain Dew into the hole in the side of the Tandy}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm way ahead of ya, SB.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Then, we'll just add some of the King of Town's fizzy denture tablets.

''{Strong Bad holds up a box of "Oh No You Dent!!!" disgusting old person tablets}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{offscreen}'' Thems is my after-dinner mints!

''{Strong Bad tips several of the tablets into the hole.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{heavy reverb}'' And now if you'd please turn in your hymnals, and join me in singing number 119, a-deleted.

''{Strong Bad hits the keyboard, and the "DELETED!!" screen comes up, with a gothic font. Organ music plays.}''

'''STRONG BAD & HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' Deleted!

''{Strong Bad swings a pickaxe through the keyboard and the desk. The Tandy explodes, and gives off a bad graphics mushroom cloud.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{turns away, falls to his knees and closes his eyes}'' Aaah!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Goodbye, old girl. They'll always say you went out in a blaze of green rectangular glory.

''{Homestar, with one eye still closed, starts pouring Mountain Dew on the carpet. Cut to a closeup of Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right! One down, one to go.

''{Cut to a shot of the shotgunned Compy on the desk. The suspenseful music plays. The screen fades to black.''}

''{Strong Bad is in front of the Compy. Despite the hole, he manages to type "strongbad_email.exe".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' There's a big ol' hole inside my email, makin' it hard to cheeeeck...

''{He brings up the email. It is formatted around the hole.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooh! Automatic hole formatting! ''{starts reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">
Dear Strong Bad, 
I want to see you perform some amazing 
feats of 
wonder. 
 
Very ser-                     iously, 
Luke S.
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "Double Dear Strong Bad" in place of the first line, and after reading "wonder", he comments "You mean, more amazing than checking an email on this computer?!" In place of the name, he says "Luke South".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well, I am very serious too. Serious about the most incredible, tantalizing, pants-defying, mind-googling sights in the whole world!! ''{stops typing}'' Lalalalalalaaaa!

''{Cut back to show the whole computer room. A [[Wikipedia:Boater (hat)|boater hat]] falls on his head and a cane into his hand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ladies and Luke, I give you...

''{The Computer Room rises, as if it were a theater curtain, revealing a carnival tent.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as a sideshow caller}'' Strong Bad's Amazing Feats of Wonder! ''{Strong Bad appears in the foreground}'' Gawk and squawk as I walk and talk like an old-timey sideshow caller, and add "Lalalalalaa" to the end of everything I say lalalalalalaaa!

''{Strong Bad ducks down. Cut to inside the tent.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' First, in our gallery of ocular oddities, is a contortionist with a twist!

''{He moves away, revealing a curtain painted with "MARZiPAN - SHE-TYPE! KA-RAZY?"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Feast your Dust Bowl-ravaged eyes on ''{Curtain lifts, revealing Marzipan with her hair tied up.}'' Marzipan, the Human Woo-man ''{rolls the next "R"}'' Rrrrrotini!

''{A logo for "The Human Woo-man Rotini" appears. Marzipan curls her neck like a spring. The audience makes amazed sounds.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Behold! An ocean of pesto!

''{Green liquid flies in from offscreen and lands on Marzipan.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's not part of my act!

''{Cut to The King of Town, with some of the green liquid dribbling down from his moustache.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I know! It's a part of ''mine'' lalalalalalalaaa!

''{He sucks in the liquid. Cut back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now, direct your attention to the Pee Wee Stage...

''{Again, Strong Bad moves aside. Now the curtain shows "THE CHEAT - AND HOW! PART ANVIL?"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...where the flea circus has left town, and the inmates are restless!

''{The audience ooohs as the curtain is lifted, showing a manacled The Cheat.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Gather strong at The Cheat's Flea Prison Riot!

''{As the above words appear, a magnifying glass focuses on The Cheat and zooms in on a tiny prison in his fur, where a number of small black dots are rioting and squabbling. The prison has some flames coming out of the windows, and a siren is heard. Cut back to Strong Bad in front of a curtain reading "Strong Sad - DEE PRESS! DO U DARE?" with an elephant styled to look like Strong Sad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And don't forget Strong Sad's feet of wonder.

''{The audience ahhhs as the curtain is moved up, revealing Strong Sad in a blue dress with a beard. A paper reading "stupid's stupid crap that I hate" appears for a moment. Strong Sad lifts the dress, revealing his feet, as the audience gasps.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' I call them "soolnds".

''{Cut to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And lastly, so ghastly, the ate-thh wonder of the world!

''{Cut to curtain showing "Strong Mad - ATE THH! NECK?"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' House-mouth!!!

''{The curtain lifts, showing Strong Mad in a loincloth. A "HOUSE-MOUTH" logo appears. The audience gasps.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' DAAAAH!! ''{Opens his mouth very wide, taking up most of his body and creating the shape of a house. The audience gasps.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{popping in from the side of the screen}'' This land-locked leviathan conveniently subsists only on outdated electronics!

''{He ducks away as the Compy is thrown in Strong Mad's mouth. He closes his mouth. A second later, he jumps a bit as a sparking sound is heard. Strong Mad gulps it down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{popping in again, and throwing his hat and cane}'' ''We did it!!!'' Lalalalalalalaaaa!

''{The scene again rises like a curtain, revealing the Computer Room. The Lappy is in its place at the desk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Lappy! You're back...y! You and I have some unfinished business, little lady!

''{Strong Bad sits down. Cut to the Lappy's screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing; anywhere that a comma would be appropriate, a dull tapping sound is heard}'' There ya go Jake-ula. Now all the cliffhangers have been for reallysolved. Okay Lappy I hope your battery's charged ''{music starts}'' cuz I'm finally taking you out for those hush-puppies you always wanted!!!

''{He picks up the Lappy and walks off. Fade to black. Cut to a silhouette of Strong Bad holding the Lappy and walking across the sunset. Ghostly images of the Tandy and Compy appear over his head. The music suddenly stops with a record scratch.}''

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' But Strong Bad, I'm hate hushpuppies!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man, I coulda sworn one of you guys liked hushpuppies.

''{The Paper comes down, reading "It was me. I like hushpuppies." The music starts again. It eventually stops again with a record scratch.}''

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' Can we please find my toe?

''{Strong Bad stops walking and looks up toward the ghostly images, which speed away upwards.}''

==Easter Eggs==
* Click on Strong Bad's diamond when he says he's got a lot of important text files on Lappy's harddrive to see a selection of those files.
<table>
<tr valign="top"><td>
<blockquote style="font-family: monospace">
    clncknmsfrmyslf.txt 
Cool nicknames for myself 
-------------------------- 
Mr. Lewd Comment 1965 
Giantus 
The Fake Frenchman 
<del style="color:red">Light 'n Fluffy</del> NO! 
Heaven in Tights 
Good Fortunator 
Bicep Lad 
Lebner 
Mighty Legit 
Dabney Coleman's Evil Twin 
Wisewallace 
/got nothin' 
The Detroit Locksmith 
Prudeacre
</blockquote>
</td><td>
<blockquote style="font-family: monospace">
      cldshplog.txt 
 Cloud Shape Spotting Log 
------------------------- 
lightswitch w/no cover 
baseball headed baby 
brown water 
michigan w/2 bites out of it 
smallish elbow 
box of crackers (unopened) 
pestilence 
2 salamanders giving low-5's 
oversized novelty comb 
cheap date 
strong sad's ghost 
uppity maitre d 
strong sad's corpse 
diet pills
</blockquote>
</td></tr><tr><td>
<blockquote style="font-family: monospace">
    ltr2bkrythrftstr.txt 
Letter to Bakery Thrift Store 
------------------------- 
Dear Bakery Thrift Store, 
Whom do you think you are 
fooling? You sell old baked 
goods. The stuff regular 
bakeries throw away. So what 
if a loaf of bread is only 
29 cents? It's old bread. 
Should I start collecting 
roadkill squirrels, glue 
cotton balls to their butts 
and open an 'Aftermarket 
Rabbit Thrift Store?' Oh, 
wait. Yes I should. Thank You 
Bakery Thrift Store. Love, SB
</blockquote>
</td><td valign="bottom">[[Image:Dullard_sbemail159a.png|thumb|Horses in IT?]]</td></tr>
</table>

* Click on the roof vent after Strong Bad's joke about Horses in [[Wikipedia:Information technology|IT]] to see a [[Dullard]] comic.
* Click the plug socket after the explosion to replay the explosion animation.
* Click on the Compy's contrast dial when Strong Bad checks the second email to see some sparks fly.
*When Strong Bad says "Luke South", click on the Compy's exposed gear to see a southward traffic sign.
*At the end, before the old computers fly away, click their contrast knobs for the [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] and a dancing skeleton.
*After the spectral computers fly away, click on the Lappy to see an extra scene involving the King of Town.
:''{A curtain is seen with a [[Ham|ham]] with the King of Town's head on it reading "The King of Town - ONE DER! MEAT MAN?"}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' He's half-man, half-cholesterol! Can I get a "ooh-ahh" for Clogdor!
:''{The curtain lifts, revealing the King behind a counter with a frying pan on it. The [[Grabbo Arm]] is holding up a toothpick above the frying pan. "CLOGDOR!!" is written across the top of the screen.}''
:'''AUDIENCE MEMBERS:''' Ewww! Euugh!
:''{The King of Town burps, producing an oddly-colored bubble. As it floats toward the frying pan, the Grabbo Arm juts forward, popping the bubble and creating the innards of an [[Eggs|egg]], which falls into the frying pan. The audience gasps.}''
:'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' If ya think my burps are impressive, wait'll you see my—
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Cutting in in front of the scene}'' —seen enough of that one lalalalalalalaaaaa!

==Fun Facts==
===Changes Between the Two-Part and One-Part Versions===
This email was originally released as a two-parter, and was re-released a week later as a single email. The following were added or changed from the original:
* The Lappy's comma key is now missing throughout the toon. Originally, the key was present in part A when the Compy and Tandy are holding the Lappy hostage but was missing in part B when Strong Bad gets it back.
* The Tandy's screen now intermittently flashes with static while Strong Bad is checking its email.
* Part A ended with the zoom-in on the Compy 386 (as the suspenseful music played). The Paper came down with a message that read, "To Be Continued Tomorrow!". Part B picked up with Strong Bad sitting at the Compy. When the two parts were combined, The Paper was removed, and a transition in and out of black now splices the two halves.
* Also removed were the "back" link at the end of part A and the "loading" screen at the beginning of part B. This is notable because even though the "back" link was on the Compy, it was written in the Lappy's font, and the "loading" screen on part B was written in the Compy's font.
* Clicking on the Compy's contrast dial creates some sparking effects.
* A gear in the Compy now turns as Strong Bad types.
* An extra scene featuring Strong Sad in Strong Bad's carnival tent was added.
* When Strong Bad attempts to type commas in his closing remarks, commas no longer appear and instead a dull tapping sound is heard.
* An Easter egg featuring the King of Town's act in Strong Bad's carnival tent was added.

===Explanations===
*The explosion following the addition of Mountain Dew and denture tablets to the Tandy 400 is due to the rapid release of carbon dioxide gas from both the carbonated water and the effervescent action of the sodium bicarbonate and citric acid in the tablets, not to be confused with the [[Wikipedia:Mentos_eruption|Coke and Mentos]] phenomenon.
*[[Wikipedia:Control-Alt-Delete|Control-Alt-Delete]] is a computer keyboard command on [[Wikipedia:IBM PC compatible|IBM PC compatible]] systems that can be used to close programs or reboot the computer.
*A [[Wikipedia:Hushpuppy|hushpuppy]] is a deep-fried ball of cornmeal commonly eaten in the southern United States.
*Putting a magnet too close to a computer can damage the data stored on [[Wikipedia:Magnetic storage|magnetic storage]], such as [[Wikipedia:Hard disk|hard disks]].
*Structures or people are called the [[Wikipedia:Eighth Wonder of the World|Eighth Wonder of the World]] in order to liken their perceived greatness to the [[Wikipedia:Seven Wonders of the World|Seven Wonders of the Ancient World]].
*[[Wikipedia:Leviathan|Leviathan]] is the name of a sea-monster mentioned several times in the [[Wikipedia:Old Testament|Old Testament]]. The word "leviathan" is often used to refer to any large monster or creature.
*[[Wikipedia:Pesto|Pesto]] is an Italian sauce frequently served over pasta. While many variations exist, in its classic form it is made of basil, pine nuts, extra virgin olive oil and pecorino romano cheese.
* Strong Sad is dressed as a [[Wikipedia:Bearded Lady|Bearded Lady]].

===Trivia===
*This email and [[flashback]] are tied for the most Easter eggs in any email to date, with eight. They're second on the site total, tied with [[Halloween Fairstival]] and [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]. The toon with the most Easter eggs is [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] with ten.
* At 6:53, this is the longest toon on the site. It beats the previous longest email, [[alternate universe]], by nearly one minute, and the previous longest toon, [[Where's The Cheat?]], by 35 seconds.
*The [[Hanging Objects|portrait]] of Marshie's mother is hung in the same frame as the painting by the Deutsch Master in [[portrait]].
*For the first email, the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#mastertype|mastertype]]". For the second, it reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#silpheed|silpheed]]".
*This is the first Strong Bad Email to feature all three computers.
*This is the first time [[Soolnds|soolnds]] are mentioned out loud.

===Remarks===
[[Image:extra outlet and Lappy plug.png|thumb|120px|The Lappy's tail!]]
*In Marshie's Whodunnit? scene, every main character is visible silhouetted except for [[The Cheat]], [[The Poopsmith]], [[Homsar]] and [[Strong Bad]] himself.
*Strong Bad says that the Lappy's hard drive holds five "[[Wikipedia:Megabyte|megs]]." However, in [[animal]], the Lappy has a "2 MB Hard Drive!".
*During Strong Bad's confrontation with the Tandy and Compy, there are clickable areas on the Lappy's screen, but clicking on them has no effect. This is because the Tandy's contrast buttons are behind the Lappy, and they are disabled in this scene.
*The word "contrast" on Strong Bad's Tandy is in a different font than it was before the Tandy was thrown out.
*If you view the Flash file, during the Mountain Dew scene there is an extra electrical outlet outside the black, complete with the Lappy's cord plugged in.
*The three sounds that play when Strong Bad makes those highlights come from [[Wikipedia:MacOS|MacOS]]: "Purr," "Sosumi," and "Temple," respectively.
*This is the first time an email was deleted in the Lappy era. However, it wasn't actually deleted on the Lappy.
*Strong Bad claims that he is out of potato chips, but some of the bags are partially filled.
*The Tandy and Compy were sold by Bubs to the King of Town ([[King of Town Email]]) and Homestar ([[Broken Compy Menu]]), respectively. Oddly, both denied kidnapping the Lappy in [[cliffhangers]] (Homestar) and [[Missing Lappy]] (King of Town).

[[Image:End_159.PNG|thumb|Slightly less shotgunned]]
*The hole in the Compy is smaller here than it was at the end of [[virus]], making it possible to fit a token amount of legible text onto the screen.
*In the start of the second part, the Compy starts off in "automatic hole format" but when Strong Bad starts typing his reply, some of the written text does not appear on the Compy's screen.
*Strong Mad appears to have no tongue or tonsils.
*Apparently, the cog inside the Compy processes text, yet it was shown spinning while broken at the end of [[virus]].
*The sounds of the fleas on The Cheat sound a lot like The King of Town and Strong Bad's voices sped up when they are saying "Lalalalalala."
*The Paper doesn't have a link to Strong Bad's email address.

===Goofs===
*There is no electrical outlet under the table while Strong Bad is using the Compy.
*When the camera zooms in on the box of the King of Town's fizzy denture tablets, the green lines on the Tandy aren't moving.
*Right after Strong Bad deletes the Tandy email, and is about to swing the pickaxe into the keyboard, for a split second, you can hear Homestar saying "deleted", but his mouth doesn't appear to move.

===Inside References===
*This email follows directly from [[cliffhangers]], where Strong Bad's computer was kidnapped at the end of the email. The dramatic "cliffhanger resolution" music is reused from that email as well. Strong Bad's closing remarks are directed toward Jake, who sent the email featured in cliffhangers.
*This is another appearance of [[Index Cards|index cards]] on the site.
*"Now, let's check emails like it was the deuce double-aught dweice!" most likely refers to the fact that in 2002 Strong Bad last checked an email with the Tandy and first checked an email with the Compy.
*The position of Strong Bad's head in front of the Tandy, his reflected mouth on the Tandy's screen, and his lack of head movement are references to his early emails.
*"Number 119, a-deleted" may be a reference to Email #119 ([[animal]]) in which Strong Bad first got the Lappy.
*Two of the items on Strong Bad's Cloud Shape Spotting Log ("strong sad's ghost" and "strong sad's corpse") refer to [[Death#Strong Sad's Imagined Death|Strong Sad's imagined death]].
*Homestar pouring [[Mountain Dew]] into the Tandy is a reference to [[anything]], in which he poured Mountain Dew onto the Compy.
*Strong Bad makes Homsar's walking noise and skitters around like him when he notices the Lappy's cord and is frantically pacing around.
*The Cheat was previously compared with an anvil in [[huttah!]].
*The skeleton image on the Compy's computer is from [[Peasant's Quest]].
*Marzipan's curtain contains another case of [[Lowercase i's]].
*The picture on Strong Mad's curtain resembles the [[Strong Man]]. Interestingly, although the figure in the picture is wearing the Strong Man's outfit, Strong Mad's costume consists of only a loincloth.
*Soolnds, the name that Strong Sad has given his feet, was previously used in [[Strong Sad's Lament]].
*The King of Town's stage name "Clogdor" is written in the same [[Fonts|font]] as [[Trogdor]]'s name on the official T-shirts.
*The sound that is made when Strong Bad hits the Tandy's keyboard with the pickaxe is from [[Thy Dungeonman 3]].

===Real-World References===
*When Strong Bad is on the couch, there is a brand of chips called "Flavoured Triangles". This could be a reference to Doritos or other tortilla corn chips which are triangle-shaped.
*The winged buffalo references the [[Wikipedia:Buffalo Wild Wings|Buffalo Wild Wings]] mascot.
*The [[Wikipedia:Teal (color)|Teal]] Screen of Near Death is a reference to the various colored [[Wikipedia:Category:Screens of death|Screens of death]] used by computer operating systems to indicate serious system errors. The [[Compy 386]] has been seen to have its own [[Wikipedia:Blue Screen of Death|Blue Screen of Death]] (the [[Strong Bad's Computer Malfunctioning|Flagrant System Error]]) on more than one occasion.
*[[Wikipedia:Dabney Coleman|Dabney Coleman]] is an actor most known for his role in the films ''[[Wikipedia:Nine to Five|Nine to Five]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Tootsie|Tootsie]]''.
*Strong Bad scrambling back and forth underneath the Lappy's cord may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Donkey Kong 3|Donkey Kong 3]], while the music is reminiscent of the game [[Wikipedia:Super Mario Bros. 2|Super Mario Bros. 2]], when the player is fighting a boss.
*[[Wikipedia:Slick Rick|Slick Rick]] was a popular hip-hop artist of the late 1980's and early 1990's.
*/got nothin' in the text files is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Fark.com|Fark.com]], where people sometimes end their posts with that remark.
*Homestar pouring Mountain Dew onto the carpet after the destruction of the Tandy may be a reference to the practice of pouring [[Wikipedia:libation|libations]] on the ground to honor the dead. In Strong Bad's case, it can also be used to honor those [[video games|sent up the river]].
*"If it'll save the orphanage..." is most likely a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:The Blues Brothers|The Blues Brothers]]'', in which the brothers put their old band back together in order to save the orphanage in which they were raised.
*Strong Bad's contracted naming of files refers to names often given to files due to [[Wikipedia:8.3|8.3]] naming restrictions present in older [[Wikipedia:File Allocation Table|FAT]] filesystems, although his file names would be too long for these rules.
*"Just walk away, mother" is a reference to the movie ''[[Wikipedia: Psycho (1960 film)|Psycho]]''. Also, the painting seen when Marshie delivers this line is drawn similarly to the caricature of [[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock|Alfred Hitchcock]] seen at the start of his television program, ''[[Wikipedia:Alfred Hitchcock Presents|Alfred Hitchcock Presents]]''.

*The [[Wikipedia:Dust Bowl|Dust Bowl]] was a series of dust storms caused by poor farming techniques that ravaged the central United States and Canada from 1934 to 1939. Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced.

*The graphics for the Fluffy Puff Marshmallows My Lappy Got Stole! Sweepstakes resembles those used for the 1995 [[Wikipedia:Simpsons|Simpsons]] episode [[Wikipedia:Who Shot Mr. Burns?|Who Shot Mr. Burns?]] contest sponsored by 1-800-COLLECT. It too featured silhouettes of the main characters with big question marks over each one, while a voiceover told viewers where to send in their guesses of the guilty party's identity in order to win the top prize of being animated into an upcoming episode.
*The "horses in IT" joke could be a reference to the British comedy series [[Wikipedia:Little Britain|Little Britain]], which contained a sketch set in a computer shop featuring a [[Wikipedia:horse whisperer|horse whisperer]] asking a horse how to fix a problem with installing Windows XP.

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