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Anonomys — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:55:39 GMT

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User talk:Penguindude

Anonomys — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:52:52 GMT

Anonomys: /* Spam */

Hello! Welcome to my talk page! Feel free to post anything you wish here.

== Spam ==

Hey there, Penguindude. You seem to be, er, missing the point of the talk page. Generally, users engage in serious discussions about H*R. Yes, it's just a cartoon, but HRWikiers take these pages seriously. While some people here are probably familiar with the ''Monty Python'' routine you're alluding to, it doesn't change the fact that it's a nonsensical addition. The talk subheading was "gummi bears" and starting a thread about spam is a complete nonsequitor. I think you're only trying to be humorous, but sometimes such behavior upsets users. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 11:09, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
:dude it's his page, he should be able to put up whatever he wants as long as it obays the rules of the Wiki.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 19:52, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

== Suggestions ==

Hi, Penguindude. You can use [[Talk:Main Page]] to make suggestions for the wiki. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 11:17, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

User talk:Anonomys

Anonomys — Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:13:38 GMT

Anonomys:

== spell check ==

You spelled anonomyous incorrectly. --[[User:Benol|Coach B]] 21:47, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 ..umm.........you're realy bored aren't you?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 01:13, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

User talk:Anonomys

Anonomys — Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:13:17 GMT

Anonomys: /* spell check */

== spell check ==

You spelled anonomyous incorrectly. --[[User:Benol|Coach B]] 21:47, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
..umm.........you're realy bored aren't you?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 01:13, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Commandos in the Classroom

Anonomys — Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:17:37 GMT

Anonomys: /* Real-World References */

[[Image:Commandos in the Classroom.PNG|thumb|Commandos in the Classroom!]]

The [[Cheat Commandos]] teach about inappropriate peer-2-teen choice behaviors.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Gunhaver}}, {{Film|Fightgar}}, {{Film|Silent Rip}}, {{Film|Crackotage}}, {{Film|Reynold}}, {{Film|Blue Laser minion}}, {{Film|Firebert}}, {{Film|Blue Laser Commander}}, {{Film|Reinforcements}}

'''Places:''' [[Cheat Commandos HQ]], [[Price Style]], Seedy Bar, Blue Laser HQ (Easter Egg)

'''Date:''' September 13, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 4:15

'''Page Title:''' Buy all our Teaching Aids and Filmstrips!

== Transcript ==
''{Open to Cheat Commandos headquarters; a title which reads "'MOVIE NIGHT!' written by A. Chimendez Jr." appears. Cut to some Cheat Commandos at [[The Screen]].}''

'''CRACKOTAGE:''' Movie night is my favorite night. I think it is my favorite night. Hee hee hoo hoo!

'''SILENT RIP:''' Are you even trying anymore?

'''GUNHAVER:''' All right boys, time for a little R&R. Tonight we've got the old family favorite ''Pony Fights 2''!!!

''{the lights dim, and the big screen cuts to the green rating screen. It reads:}''
<blockquote style="background:#0C0; color:#FFF; padding:1em; width:500px; border:none; font-weight:bold; text-align:center; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">THE FOLLOWING FILM HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR 
CERTAIN AUDIENCES 
BY SOME PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT'S BEST 
 
IT BE RATED
{| cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" style="background:none; border:1px #FFF solid; margin:0 auto; color:white"
|-
| style="border:1px #FFF solid;" | PG-13
| style="border:1px #FFF solid;" | FOR SEVERE CUSSING AND ''VERY'' ILLEGAL PONY FIGHTS
|}
</blockquote>

'''EVERYBODY:''' Yay! Yeah!

'''SILENT RIP:''' All right! PG-13!

'''GUNHAVER:''' Uh, sorry Reynold, ''{He flicks the lights back on.}'' I'm afraid lights-out for you is at oh-now hundred hours!

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Yeah, all that cuss-language might give you nightmares. Ah-ha ha ha.

'''REYNOLD:''' Oh, I can handle it, why I can even swear a cuss myself! A-hem. Diaper biscuits.

'''OTHER COMMANDOS:''' Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

'''REYNOLD:''' Oh, I can't do anything right. I might as well go home and get teen pregnant.

''{The other commandos gasp, the Blue Las-Alert siren sounds once.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Easy there, Cheat Cuss-mando, you just made an inappropriate peer-to-teen choice behavior!

'''REYNOLD:''' A whaaa?

''{cut to the black and white Commandos in the Classroom logo, which looks like Reynold in a mortarboard cap pointing a pointer at an A+}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{singing}'' Commandos in the Classroom!

''{Cut to another black-and-white slide that reads "LESSON 4: INAPPROPRIATE PEER-2-TEEN CHOICE BEHAVIORS". At the bottom in fine print it reads "*TEACHERS, USE THIS TIME TO CATCH A NAP OR HAVE A SMOKE."}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Lesson four: Inappropriate peer-to-teen choice behaviors!

''{Cut back to Gunhaver and Reynold in Cheat Commandos HQ}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Here, Reynold, lemme show you.

''{Gunhaver points the remote at the screen, which shows two ponies fighting in a field for a moment, then snows out to a diagram of a person's head showing the brain. The other commandos cheer for a second, then groan as the scene changes.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' I was watchin' the ponies...

'''GUNHAVER:''' The brain is divided into two halves: ''{The brain in the diagram gets a jagged line down the middle}'' the good half ''{A dotted line points to the left half saying "GOOD HALF"}'' and the evil half. ''{A dotted line points to the right half saying "EVIL HALF.}'' The good half likes positive things, like Self-Esteem, ''{the word "Self-Esteem" appears in the middle of the screen and moves through the mouth into the "good" half of the brain.}'' Oreo Cheesecake, ''{again, the words appear and move through the mouth and up into the brain}'' Bringing Your Old Man a Cold One, ''{again, then cut to a close-up of Gunhaver}'' and all our playsets and toys. ''{Gunhaver smiles a big grin toward the camera. Cut back to the diagram.}'' But the evil half likes ''{as each of the next four words is said, is appears from the "evil" half of the brain and moves to the right side of the screen}'' Littering! Loitering! Latering! Lootering! And all the other stuff that causes inappropriate peer-to-teen choice behaviors! ''{The other words vanish and are replaced by "Inappropriate peer-2-teen choice behaviors".}''

''{Cut back to Gunhaver and Reynold.}''

'''REYNOLD:''' But how do ''I'' keep from making peer-to-teen choice awards, Gunhaver?

'''GUNHAVER:''' If you find yourself in a sticky ''{makes "finger quotes"}'' teenage situation, just remember these three pro-positive life tools:

''{Cut to Silent Rip in a classroom, next to a Blue Laser minion. Both appear to be taking tests.}''

'''BLUE LASER MINION:''' What did you get for number four, sir?

'''SILENT RIP:''' Uhhhh...

''{Gunhaver suddenly enters the screen from the bottom.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' ''Freeze!'' ''{The screen cuts to a diagram of a male body with "PRO-POSITIVE LIFE TOOL" written next to it, and a giant "#1" appears next to it.}'' Pro-positive life tool number one: ''{Gunhaver appears on the screen}'' say you have one of any debilitating gold rush era diseases! ''{He pulls out a book labeled "BIG BOOK OF DEBILITATING GOLD RUSH ERA DISEASES", and "BBODGRED" on the spine.}''

''{Cut back to the classroom.}''

'''BLUE LASER MINION:''' Come on, man. I thought we were bros!

'''SILENT RIP:''' I can't! I have the typhoid! Or the cholera!

'''BLUE LASER MINION:''' Never mind. Your answers are gross, bro.

''{Cut back to Gunhaver and Reynold, the latter of whom is now wearing a false beard and a prospector's hat, and is holding a mining pick.}''

'''REYNOLD:''' Gold rush era diseases, eh?

'''GUNHAVER:''' Now you're getting it!

''{Cut to the supermarket, where two Blue Laser Minions are holding a lot of bottles labeled "WINE COOLA," some of them in their pants, and Fightgar is standing nearby.}''

'''FIRST BLUE LASER MINION:''' Hey, man. We need you to put these wine coolers down your pants... er, down your headband.

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Oh, um, uh...

''{Again, Gunhaver suddenly jumps onto the screen.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' ''STOP!'' ''{The diagram of the body returns, but now, it's a woman's body. "#2" appears on the side and "EN SAP" at the bottom.}'' Pro-positive life tool numero two: ''{silhouettes of the two Blue Laser minions and Gunhaver appear with question marks over them. The minions are labeled "INAPPROPRIATORS"}'' Envision your Inappropriators ''{Gunhaver is labeled "STILL JUST YOU" and the minions turn into pizza slices.}'' as giant slices of pizza.

''{Cut back to the supermarket.}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Ah-ha ha ha! You're deep-dish! Ah-ha ha! And you've got extra cheese! Ah-ha ha ha ha! Oh, pepperoni!

'''FIRST BLUE LASER MINION:''' What's with this guy?

'''SECOND BLUE LASER MINION:''' He sounds crazy. Should we shoot him?

'''FIRST BLUE LASER MINION:''' Abso-total-lutely!

''{The second minion pulls out a large gun and aims it at Fightgar, who looks startled. The scene cuts back to Gunhaver and Reynold, who is now wearing a baseball cap and holding a bat, with a ball sitting next to him, and we can hear shooting over the next exchange.}''

'''REYNOLD:''' But Gunhaver, I've never had pizza before!

'''GUNHAVER:''' But you know what it looks like, don't you?

'''REYNOLD:''' ''{smiling}'' I think so!

'''GUNHAVER:''' Now you're getting it!

''{Cut to an alley next to a building labeled "Seedy Bar". Firebert walks by in the background, while the Blue Laser Commander is standing next to a building.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' ''{Jumping out}'' Hey, kid! Wanna smoke some ''candy'' ''{holds up chocolate bar}'' with me?

''{The diagram of the body, which now appears to be a bear, appears over the scene this time. "#3" appears on the right. Firebert and Blue Laser Commander lean back to make room for the diagram}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' ''{voiceover}'' Pro-positive life tool number three: ''{The diagram and "#3" disappear, and Silent Rip appears from the side of the building and throws a smoke bomb.}'' Have your light infantry create a thick smokescreen. ''{The commander starts hacking and coughing, while Firebert pulls out a gun and shoots it at the commander.}'' Then lay down some suppressive fire until the snipers are in position. ''{He stops firing.}'' But look out for surface-to-air antioxidant missiles! ''{Firebert jumps out of the way as three missiles, labelled "100% GREEN TEA" and painted with skulls-and-crossbones, just barely miss the Commander.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Ah!

'''GUNHAVER:''' ''{voiceover}'' Then by the time Reinforcements shows up...

''{Reinforcements shows up.}''

'''REINFORCEMENTS:''' Hey, guys.

''{Cut to a screen with Gunhaver.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' ...Your mom ''{an image of a station wagon appears}'' should be waiting for you in the bus turnaround! ''{Cut back to Gunhaver and Reynold.}'' So, do you think you're ready to make ''{more finger quotes}'' appropriate inappropriate whatever thingies now?

'''REYNOLD:''' Yes sir! I'm gonna get high on life!

''{Silent Rip walks up.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' We're about to start the movie! You guys coming?

'''GUNHAVER:''' What do you think, Reynold?

'''REYNOLD:''' ''{thinks a moment, then grins}'' I've got dysentery!

'''GUNHAVER:''' Good job, little buddy! ''{pushes Reynold offscreen to stage left, then walks with Silent Rip to stage right}'' Man, I can't wait to see some serious pony carnage!

''{Fade to the Commandos in the Classroom logo again.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' ''{singing}'' Commandos in the classroom!

''{Cut to an image that reads "NEXT WEEK... LESSON 5: LISTEN YOU GUYS, YOU SERIOUSLY NEED TO START SHOWERING EVERYDAY"}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Next week, lesson 5: Listen you guys, you seriously need to start showering every day!

''{"THE END" and "BACK" appear at the bottom of the screen.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on "Lesson" to see the "Commandos in the Classroom" Lesson 4 Worksheet.

:<div style="background:#F5F5F5; color:black; padding:8px; width: 240px; border:1px solid #CCC">'''LESSON 4''' '''WORKSHEET''' '''1. DRAW A PICTURE OF YOUR FAVORITE INAPPROPRIATE''' '''PEER-2-TEEN CHOICE BEHAVIOR''' <table align="center" style="border:1px black solid; background:none"><tr height="50"><td width="70"></td></tr></table> '''2. WHY DO YOU THINK REYNOLD''' '''HAS NEVER TRIED PIZZA?''' ___________________________ ___________________________ <nowiki>*</nowiki>(TEACHERS, THIS WORKSHEET SHOULD BUY YOU 10-15 MORE MINUTES OF PEACE. FIX YOURSELF A DRINK, MAYBE!)</div>

*Click on "Guys" for Blue Laser to get the wrong end of the stick.
:''{The Blue Laser Commander and a minion are standing in their HQ, dressed as pizza slices. The text "OPERATION DRESS UP AS PIZZA!!" is flashing on a screen in the background.}''
:'''BLUE LASER MINION:''' Um, I'm not entirely sure this is what they were talking about sir.
:'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Shut it! Pizza can't talk!

*Click on "Seriously" for the following exchange:
:''{Cut to Silent Rip and Crackotage in the HQ, with Pony Fights 2 playing in the background.}''
:'''SILENT RIP:''' Ah, you can do it. Try another one.
:'''CRACKOTAGE:''' I think my rhymes are truly broke! Broke, broke, broke, broke, broke, broke, broke! Hoo-hoo, hweh-hweh!

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Second audio program|SAP]] is an auxiliary audio channel for television that can be broadcast or transmitted both over the air and by cable TV. It is often used for an alternate language or descriptive video.
*[[Wikipedia:MPAA_film_rating_system#PG-13|PG-13]] is one of the film ratings used in the [http://mpaa.org/movieratings/about/content5.htm MPAA] film rating system. It is a strong caution to parents that some material may be inappropriate for children under 13.
*[[Wikipedia:Chicago-style pizza|Deep-dish]] (AKA "Chicago-style") is a style of pizza in which the pizza is much thicker than usual, often requiring the use of a fork and knife to eat it.
*[[Wikipedia:Typhoid fever|Typhoid fever]], [[Wikipedia:Cholera|cholera]], and [[Wikipedia:Dysentery|dysentery]] are bacterial diseases generally associated with the ingestion of drinking water contaminated by improper sanitation.
*[[Wikipedia:Antioxidants|Antioxidants]] are chemicals that prevent the [[Wikipedia:oxidation|oxidation]] of other chemicals.

===Trivia===
[[Image:Commandos4 problem4.PNG|right|thumb|Smell that purple ink!!]]
*The blackboard in the classroom sequence reads "ASSIGNMENTS", "TAKE TEST", and "STARE AT CLOCK UNTIL I COME BACK".
*In the same scene as above, Silent Rip's test paper reads "Problem 4: Compare and contrast your 2 most favorite '[[Wikipedia:Ernest P. Worrell|Ernest]]' movies. Show your work!"
*This is the first time Reinforcements is shown in his animated form, and also the first time he talks in his own voice.
*This is the longest "Short" cartoon on the website.
*The line "Come on, man, I thought we were bros." is the first time a Blue Laser Minion has ended a sentence without referring to the person he was speaking to as "sir" or "ma'am".

===Remarks===
*The episode is called "Movie Night", but when we see the headquarters, it's daytime.

===Goofs===
*"Every day" is misspelled "everyday" on the slide at the end. In that context, it should be the two-word adverb, not the one-word adjective.
*The clock in the classroom sequence has only 8 hours on its face, instead of 12.
*When Gunhaver is talking to Reynold after the brain picture appears, his left hand goes through his jacket for a split-second.

===Inside References===
*This episode of Cheat Commandos is written by [[A. Chimendez|A. Chimendez Jr.]]
*Gunhaver makes a reference to [[Cold Ones]].
*The lesson four worksheet seems to be based on the application form in [[CGNU]].

===Real-World References===
*The title is based on [http://www.ciconline.org/default.htm Cable in the Classroom], a non-profit organization dedicated to providing educational programming to be aired in schools.
* The [[Wikipedia:Teen Choice Awards|Teen Choice Awards]] is an awards ceremony shown annually on Fox since 1999 in which teens get to vote for the winners of various categories such as movies, music, and television.
*[http://www.kraftfoods.com/recipes/CakesPiesCheesecakes/CheesecakesBaked/OREOCheesecake.html Oreo Cheesecake] is a novelty dessert made by replacing the normal cheesecake crust with crushed [[Wikipedia:Oreos|Oreos]].
*"oh-now hundred hours!" is a referance to military time where they would say the time as a single 4-diget number (Ex. 9 AM. would be 0900 hours in military time and 9 PM would be 2100 hours)

==External Links==
*[[HR:cheatcommandos4.html|watch "Commandos in the Classroom"]]
*[[HR:cheatcommandos4.swf|view the Flash file for "Commandos in the Classroom"]]
*[[Forum:4934|forum thread re: Commandos In The Classroom]]
{{CheatCommandos}}
[[Category:Cheat Commandos]]
[[Category:Shorts]]

User talk:Anonomys

Anonomys — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:59:40 GMT

Anonomys:

User:Anonomys

Anonomys — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:59:24 GMT

Anonomys: */Homestarruner.com*/

If you seriously thought you were going to learn something about me, take a good,hard,look at my name. Saying it out loud might also help.

==homestarrunner.com==
I will, however, share how I found out about homestarruner.com. I use to go onto various mesage boards and one day someone posted strongbad e-mail Dragon and I saw it and looked at all of the oter stuff on the site. Then I just kept coming back a lot.

User talk:Anonomys

Anonomys — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:49:08 GMT

Anonomys:

Obviously you aren't new, but as far as I can tell you've never gotten a formal welcome. So...

== Welcome! ==
Welcome to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' I wanted to extend a personal welcome, since I believe strongly that a [[Wikipedia:Wiki|Wiki]] should be a democratic and non-threatening place where everyone feels like they can contribute. Unfortunately it can be very frustrating at first if you make changes that are ignored or changed back by other users, but if so I encourage you to hang in there; as you get a feel for the way things are done around here you'll feel more at home. That was my experience, anyway!

If you need any help, feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]] (like [[User_talk:AbdiViklas|me]]!). You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].

Here are some tips to get you started:
* If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.
* Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].
* Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[HRWiki:User page|user page]]. What you're reading right now, by the way, is the "Talk:" page that goes with your user page. It's a good way to communicate directly with specific users. The best way to respond, though, is on the same user page where the conversation was started. E.g. if you have a question, go to my [[User_talk:AbdiViklas|user talk page]] and edit it, then watch my page (via [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]]) for a response.
* If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
* If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum] and get More Community Interaction Than You Or Your Grandmother Can Handle!
* Above all, '''be bold''' and have fun!

Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. (In general, it's frowned on to delete other people's input on talk pages, but this entry is just here to be helpful. When it's done being helpful, I guarantee you won't hurt my feelings by ditching it!)

Sincerely, 
[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] and [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|the rest of the welcoming committee]] ([[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:46, 21 October 2005 (UTC))
...-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 19:49, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Email Processing Room

Anonomys — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:56:58 GMT

Anonomys: /* Errors/Inconsistencies */

== Rumor ==

I heard a rumour, (no pun) that when your email was chosen by [[TBC]] to be turned into a [[Strong Bad Email]], you were sent a link to this page. Anyone else hear something like this? - [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 15:35, 16 Sep 2004 (MST)

:In fact, during the Tandy era, everybody who sent an email to Strong Bad got an automated respose, along with a link to this page. (I hate to leave a good question un-answered) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:25, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Broken Link ==

The new address to "The Rumor" is now broken. Probably not a big deal. [[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 16:18, 16 Nov 2004 (MST)
==Remark==
<pre>
Strong Mad gets the bottle for the paper out of thin air, as most cartoons have this </pre>

I think he clearly gets the bottle from under the table. No biggie [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:52, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Whoops ==

Goof! Some times when strong mad moves his arm up (with the bottle and to remove his glasses) his arm moves, but his arm also stays on his body. TBC are getting lazy...

:Getting lazy? They made a slight goof. If you are interested in mistake-free cartoons, you are always free to create your own website and never make mistakes. What are you, some kind of robot that doesn't make mistakes?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 11:18, 19 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Plus this was one of [[TBC]]'s early works. If anything, they're getting sharper. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:27, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Transcript ==

Can somebody maybe possibly make a transcript for this 'toon? I'm not goin to make one yet, since I don't know if you think it's a great idea or nit, and also because I'm not exactly the greatest at making them. --[[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]] 15:58, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:There's nothing to transcribe. Everything that happens is noted in the first section of the page, and no words are spoken. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 15:57, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::Quite True. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:28, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:unless of course you count strong mad yelling and strong bad laughing.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:54, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

== Errors/Inconsistencies ==

I know you people are fussy, so I won't add these to the article myself:
# The stool that Strong Bad is sitting on is actually taller than the one he sits on in actual emails. Notice it has two rungs instead of just one.
# Strong Bad's computer desk is in the middle of the room, not against the wall as in actual emails.
# There are no cables protruding from the back of Strong Bad's computer.
::Yeah, I guess "fussy" is fair. But I think it's only appropriate we are; the editors of a print encyclopedia are too. (And a heck of a lot less open to input!) And I know sometimes it's hard to know whether to make changes directly to an article just to see them reverted or to suggest them in Talk as you've done, just to see them ignored. But if you go with the first scenario and its reverted, there's no real harm done, so don't feel you can't do so. 
::     Anyway, thanks for pointing those out (I certainly hadn't noticed the rungs!). The only reason I wouldn't list them as errors is that this whole scene has little or no bearing on the Brothers Strong's real house. As far as we know, this room doesn't really exist, and we certainly know Strong Bad doesn't have a pneumatic tube delivering emails next to his computer. The whole thing could really be considered an Easter Egg, and they tend to carry less weight in terms of what's "real." --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 02:43, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

4. The computer appears to be resting on a CPU, but no CPU was ever actually seen in normal emails. 
--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:try thinking about what notstrongorbad said before you add more things, we don't know that this is the E-mail answeing room anyway and we don't even know if this room realy exists.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:56, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Email Processing Room

Anonomys — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:54:00 GMT

Anonomys: /* Transcript */

Talk:Random Toon

Anonomys — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 00:45:13 GMT

Anonomys: /* Added */

==Enough?==
Is there really enough for a whole page here? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:00, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Oh I think so. Are any toons excluded? How does this work? Any glitches or whatnot? I'm quite sure this'll answer alot of questions. Begining with the one I posed down below... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:02, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I agree now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:00, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::WooHoo! (Said in Homer-esqe voice) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 12:08, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Question==

Why does the Updates page say added to [[Main Pages]] and [[Strong Bad Emails]]? I only see a button on the main page. Could somebody clarify this for me? Thanks. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:02, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Click on the "random.bat" in the upper right hand corner of the sb_email menu to start a roulette. {{User:Tom Epsilon/sig}}

::Oh, my cashe wasn't cleared. A little 'F5' did the trick, thanks. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:08, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

It didn't seem to properly load Labor Dabor (Puppet Stuff).--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 05:23, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Too short==
The text box in the random toon thing on the main pages is too short for some of the toon names - is this notable enough to go in the article? {{User:phlip/sig}} 06:47, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Probably. What do they do, just cut off the name, or abbreviate them? And can you list any of the toon names this happens to? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 12:06, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

It cuts them off. (i.e. Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoo) - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

Exhaustive List:
*[[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer|Peasant's Quest Movie Trail]]
*[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoo]]
*[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!|HomestarRunner.com: PAY PL]]
*[[Homestar Presents: Presents|Homestar Presents: Present]]
*[[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes|Sweet Cuppin Cakes December]]
*[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad|Teen Girl Squad Decemberwe]]
*[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats|The House That Gave Sucky T]]
*[[Puppet Jam: Vitamins/Celebrities|Puppet Jam: Vitamins/Celebr]]
*[[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams|Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor ]]
at least, I'm pretty sure it's exhaustive... {{User:phlip/sig}} 13:41, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks, that'll do nicely for a begining list. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:05, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Hey, they're fixing these. I haven't seen all of them, but now they use "Strong Bad is in Jail" I'll go look for more. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

Fixed ones so far:

*Strong Bad is in Jail
*Tropical Lazor Beams
*Sweet Cuppin Cakes Dween
*Teen Girl Squad Dween
*Bad Jokes
*Vitamins/Celebrities
*Mission Control
*House ... Sucky Treats
*Peasant's Quest Trailer
*HomestarRunner.com Pay+
*H*R Presents: Presents

This is interesting. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

:Please don't edit the main article... I'm working on it. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
::I'm assuming that's ↑ out of date. There's no timestamp. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

If the graphic accompanying the toon is correct, then Yello Dello just ''barely'' doesn't fit. Not even half the -''O'' is missing. I don't think this qualifies as being too long, because it's still completely readable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:46, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, I'm unsure about it. But it ''does'' still get cut off. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 18:04, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Added==
The button was added to main page 22, no word on virus yet...
:Not here it hasn't (yes I've tried emptying the cache) - you do know it was talking about the little navbar down the bottom, not the R at the top, right? (though Virus doesn't have one of those either) {{User:phlip/sig}} 08:26, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I wouldn't expect it to be added in either. The main navbar at the bottom is one flash file linked to from all (most) pages, as are the now 4 buttons at the top of main pages. In mp22 and virus, the navbar is not separate, since it interacts with the main toon. They'd have to go back and edit both mp22 and virus to add that 'rando' link.
:the random toon link is on main page 22 but it's not in the virus e-mail(I checked 3 seconds before typing this.)-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:45, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

==XML Comment?==

Does anybody remember exactly what it said? It might be kinda neat to add the working of the note. I know I'm curious what it said... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:06, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:There was only one comment in the one I downloaded (other than the section headers), and it read: <tt><nowiki></nowiki></tt>. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:33, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks, ADD'D! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:43, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== "Rando"? ==

What's up with the name of the "rando" link? The only thing i can think of was on an episode of MST3K once, where during the credits there was a person named Rando and Tom Servo kept going on about "The Amazing Rando!". But i have no idea what else it could be in reference to...or why they would do that. --[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 17:32, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Maybe "Random" Wouldn't fit? :) Seriously though, beat's me. Why Decemberween? Why Arrow'd? Could just be good ol' brother's chaps. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:50, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I also immediately thought of The Amazing Rando from MST3K. I wouldn't be surprised if it were a reference, but not certain enough to add a Fun Fact. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 23:02, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Just for anyone interested, here's some "Amazing Rando" soundbytes: [http://members.tripod.com/~Rover_Wow/mstwavs.htm mst3k wavs]. Looks like the Amazing Rando ([http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0773556/ Rando Schmook]) was a set designer on MST3k - The Movie. Too bad this is all pure speculation, and not enough to warrant being a legit fact.--[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 13:35, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::I also think it's a reference to Amazing Rando (who once did battle with Eastman!). There was the Tom Servo in "A Jorb Well Done," so TBC probably do watch MST3K... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:05, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)

TBC also referenced MST3K in an interview. {{User:Trogga/sig}}

== Ding~! ==

Is it just me, or does the sound that the Main Page's selector make when it lands on one sound kinda fammiliar? I can't put my finger on anything, but I swear I've heard either that sound or a very similar one in something else.

And yes, I'm aware that this kind of sound effect is fairly genetic. But this particular one still sounds very fammiliar.

-[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

:I want to say that it is similar to the sound effects from Street Fighter 2, when you enter another credit and continue the game...Or something like that. --[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 13:31, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:It's definitely from a video game. I think it's the sound from Metal Gear for NES when you start a new game.. it's some sort of "game start"/"character selection" sound from some game. [[User:socetew|socetew]] 10.17.5

I just checked on ROMs of both Street Fighter 2 and Metal Gear that I had handy. The sound is quite similar to the Metal Gear one, but still distinct from both of 'em. It's definately in that vein, though. -[[User:67.22.197.57|67.22.197.57]]

== Random Email ==
*Anyone else not see the Random Email feature? I see the random toon one, just not the email version. I use Mozilla, and my Internet Explorer has it on there... what's going on? Is it just me not knowing about computers? --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 23:42, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)
**Same thing happened to me. Try clearing the cashe, (Ctr + F5), on the Strong Bad Email Menu, and look in the top right. If you have the new Scroll Button Rap, then it should be there. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:45, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)
***Weird, I tried and it didn't work... have any other ideas? Thanks. =) (Never mind, got it! Thanks one million!)--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:32, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Glitches==

TBC sure fixed those glitches fast. Am I the only one who thinks they may have been watching our debugging, and fixing everything we meantioned? Dunno, could just be me, but it sure feels like we helped them out somehow. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:45, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Yeah, I [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?p=183566#183566 thought that]... {{User:phlip/sig}} 00:55, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Yep, expecially the too-long name ones. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

==Main Page==

Since this has now been included on the Main Page, Alongside both Legal and Sketchbook, this page should probably be linked somewhere on our main page. We do have far more minor articles, such as 'Legal'. But can anybody decide exactly where? I'm thinking either after Legal or Museum in the list at the very top, or alongside 'Weeklies' and change the name to something like 'Top Button Menu' or something. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 13:02, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I think it would work best amough the "Weeklies," but I'm not sure what that categories new name would be. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

::''Roll Over Buttons'' or ''Featured Buttons'' maybe? I dunno. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:58, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==New Toons==
I see that we've already noted that [[Commandos in the Classroom]] isn't listed in the XML file. Shouldn't we give them a grace period of at least a couple of hours (I'm thinking more like a few days) before we nitpick them on this? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:59, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, I think a grace period is in order. They can't be expected to do everything right off the bat. They may be the Brothers Chaps, but they're still only human. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Are they gonna need to shorten it? (The title) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:00, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::My thinking when I added that fact was simply - it's not there now, which is notable now. If and when it is added later, provided it doesn't take absurdly long, it will no longer be notable and should just be removed (if it does take a rather long time then maybe have it go through STUFF with the appropriate dates). Also, as for the "couple of hours" thing, it has been a good 2 days... {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:47, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::Wait... I just saw the date on IDC's message and checked the history... it seems you were talking about Venusy's addition [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Random_Toon&diff=143507&oldid=143486 here] rather than the fact I just recently added to the [[Commandos in the Classroom]] page... never mind then. {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:50, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Decemberween In July Titles==

I just noticed a toon on the list, titled [[That Time of Year]]. This is [[TBC]]'s title for [[Decemberween Kids' Book]]. Which means we should probably move it. Which got me thinking, what are the titles for all the other Decemberween In July Toons they got in the XML list? Are we gonna have to move several of them? Did they even include the Decemberween in July easter egg toons (Seasonal Sweaters and Santaman ones I belive) in the Random Toons list? Some kinda meantion of this special case, (Spliting up the main Toons menu Toon into five or six sub-toons for the random toons list) should probably be made. Anyways, any feedback would be greatly appreciated. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:10, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:After further investigation, it seems that the only anomaly is [[That Time of Year]], with the possible exception of flipping around the titles to [[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]] and [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]. But we should probably move [[Decemberween Kids' Book]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:24, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Added Section / Page==

Should we add a new page or section for the entire XML list, basically a cleaned up list of the following, with links, to all the toons in the random selection. Or does this violate [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once]]? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:20, 15 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I thought about doing this on [[Secret Pages]], like the weeklies XML is, but this is a lot longer than that... If we're going to do it it should be a seperate page, or a subpage or something, rather than a section of this page, but I'm not sure if it needs doing... Still, I'll pretty up this list to save you the effort if you decide to do it... {{User:phlip/sig}} 00:16, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

===XML List:===
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<tgs n="[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3|Teen Girl Squad #3]]" u="[[HR:tgs3.html|tgs3.html]]"/>
<tgs n="[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4|Teen Girl Squad #4]]" u="[[HR:tgs4.html|tgs4.html]]"/>
<tgs n="[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5|Teen Girl Squad #5]]" u="[[HR:tgs5.html|tgs5.html]]"/>
<tgs n="[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|Teen Girl Squad #7]]" u="[[HR:tgs7.html|tgs7.html]]"/>
<tgs n="[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|Teen Girl Squad #8]]" u="[[HR:tgs8.html|tgs8.html]]"/>
<tgs n="[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|Teen Girl Squad #9]]" u="[[HR:tgs9.html|tgs9.html]]"/>

<am n="[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 1|Answering Machine 1]]" u="[[HR:answer1.html|answer1.html]]"/>
<am n="[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 2|Answering Machine 2]]" u="[[HR:answer2.html|answer2.html]]"/>
<am n="[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 3|Answering Machine 3]]" u="[[HR:answer3.html|answer3.html]]"/>
<am n="[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4|Answering Machine 4]]" u="[[HR:answer4.html|answer4.html]]"/>
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<am n="[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2|Answering Machine 9]]" u="[[HR:answer9.html|answer9.html]]"/>
<am n="[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2|Answering Machine 10]]" u="[[HR:answer10.html|answer10.html]]"/>
<am n="[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2|Answering Machine 11]]" u="[[HR:answer11.html|answer11.html]]"/>
<am n="[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2|Answering Machine 12]]" u="[[HR:answer12.html|answer12.html]]"/>

<sh n="[[TrogdorCon '97]]" u="[[HR:trogdorcon.html|trogdorcon.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[The Li'l Brudder Show]]" u="[[HR:lilbrudder.html|lilbrudder.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[Peasant's Quest Trailer]]" u="[[HR:filmstyle.html|filmstyle.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[Peasant's Quest Preview]]" u="[[HR:pqtrailer.html|pqtrailer.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[Experimental Film]]" u="[[HR:expfilm.html|expfilm.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[Senor Mortgage]]" u="[[HR:senormortgage.html|senormortgage.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[Cheat Commandos...O's]]" u="[[HR:cheatcereal.html|cheatcereal.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[The Cheatar]]" u="[[HR:cheatar.html|cheatar.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[Cheat Commandos]]" u="[[HR:cheatcommando.html|cheatcommando.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]]" u="[[HR:mrshmallow.html|mrshmallow.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[Ballad of the Sneak]]" u="[[HR:sneakvideo.html|sneakvideo.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]]" u="[[HR:whatsinthebag.html|whatsinthebag.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[Arcade Game]]" u="[[HR:arcadegame.html|arcadegame.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[20X6 vs. 1936]]" u="[[HR:20x6vs1936.html|20x6vs1936.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[The System is Down]]" u="[[HR:systemisdown.html|systemisdown.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[Meet Marshie]]" u="[[HR:marshie.html|marshie.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[The Interview]]" u="[[HR:interview.html|interview.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[Fluffy Puff Commercial]]" u="[[HR:fluffypuff2.html|fluffypuff2.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[Theme Song Video]]" u="[[HR:video.html|video.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[Kick the Can|Kick The Can]]" u="[[HR:old.html|old.html]]"/>
<sh n="[[Strong Bad Sings]]" u="[[HR:sbsings.html|sbsings.html]]"/>

<t n="[[A Folky Tale]]" u="[[HR:dumpingtontoon.html|dumpingtontoon.html]]"/>
<t n="[[Cool Things]]" u="[[HR:coolthings.html|coolthings.html]]"/>
<t n="[[Bug in Mouth Disease]]" u="[[HR:buginmouth.html|buginmouth.html]]"/>
<t n="[[Shopping for Danger]]" u="[[HR:commandos3.html|commandos3.html]]"/>
<t n="[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon|Strong Bad is in Jail]]" u="[[HR:jailcartoon.html|jailcartoon.html]]"/>
<t n="[[Parsnips A-Plenty]]" u="[[HR:parsnips.html|parsnips.html]]"/>
<t n="[[Where's The Cheat?]]" u="[[HR:whereis.html|whereis.html]]"/>
<t n="[[The Luau]]" u="[[HR:luau2.html|luau2.html]]"/>
<t n="[[A Jorb Well Done]]" u="[[HR:cantsayjob.html|cantsayjob.html]]"/>
<t n="[[The Reddest Radish]]" u="[[HR:radish.html|radish.html]]"/>
<t n="[[In Search of the Yello Dello]]" u="[[HR:yellodellomenu.html|yellodellomenu.html]]"/>
<t n="[[The King of Town]]" u="[[HR:kingmenu.html|kingmenu.html]]"/>

<ho n="[[Happy Fireworks]]" u="[[HR:fireworks.html|fireworks.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[Senorial Day]]" u="[[HR:senorialday.html|senorialday.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!|HomestarRunner.com: PAY+]]" u="[[HR:payplus.html|payplus.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[Homestar Presents: Presents|H*R Presents: Presents]]" u="[[HR:xmas04.html|xmas04.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[Snowglobe]]" u="[[HR:xmas04_pq.html|xmas04_pq.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[Halloween Fairstival]]" u="[[HR:ween04.html|ween04.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[That A Ghost]]" u="[[HR:oldtimeyween.html|oldtimeyween.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[That Time of Year]]" u="[[HR:dween_kidsbook.html|dween_kidsbook.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes|Sweet Cuppin Cakes Dween]]" u="[[HR:dween_cakes.html|dween_cakes.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad|Teen Girl Squad Dween]]" u="[[HR:dween_tgs.html|dween_tgs.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[Seasonal Sweaters]]" u="[[HR:seasonalsweaters.html|seasonalsweaters.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[Under Construction]]" u="[[HR:underconstruction.html|underconstruction.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]" u="[[HR:ween03.html|ween03.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[Fan Costume Commentary]]" u="[[HR:costumes.html|costumes.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[Malloween Commercial]]" u="[[HR:malloween.html|malloween.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[Superbowl Dealie]]" u="[[HR:superbowl.html|superbowl.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[A Decemberween Pageant]]" u="[[HR:xmas2002.html|xmas2002.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]" u="[[HR:halloween2002.html|halloween2002.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]" u="[[HR:xmas2001.html|xmas2001.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[Some Stupid Turkey]]" u="[[HR:turkey.html|turkey.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats|House ... Sucky Treats]]" u="[[HR:halloween2001.html|halloween2001.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[A Mother's Day Message]]" u="[[HR:mother.html|mother.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[A Holiday Greeting]]" u="[[HR:xmas.html|xmas.html]]"/>
<ho n="[[Homestarloween Party]]" u="[[HR:homestarloween.html|homestarloween.html]]"/>
















<teh n="[[New Boots]]" u="[[HR:newboots.html|newboots.html]]"/>
<teh n="[[Crazy Cartoon]]" u="[[HR:crazycartoon.html|crazycartoon.html]]"/>
<teh n="[[Everybody to the Limit]]" u="[[HR:fhqwhgads.html|fhqwhgads.html]]"/>
<teh n="[[The Cheat Theme Song]]" u="[[HR:cheatvideo.html|cheatvideo.html]]"/>

<sb n="[[some kinda robot]]"/>
<sb n="[[homsar]]"/>
<sb n="[[butt IQ]]"/>
<sb n="[[homestar hair]]"/>
<sb n="[[making out]]"/>
<sb n="[[depressio]]"/>
<sb n="[[halloweener]]"/>
<sb n="[[brianrietta]]"/>
<sb n="[[i love you]]"/>
<sb n="[[trevor the vampire]]"/>
<sb n="[[i rule]]"/>
<sb n="[[credit card]]"/>
<sb n="[[i she be]]"/>
<sb n="[[duck pond]]"/>
<sb n="[[the basics]]"/>
<sb n="[[band names]]"/>
<sb n="[[studying]]"/>
<sb n="[[stand-up]]"/>
<sb n="[[tape-leg]]"/>
<sb n="[[spring cleaning]]"/>
<sb n="[[cartoon]]"/>
<sb n="[[sb_email 22]]"/>
<sb n="[[little animal]]"/>
<sb n="[[the bird]]"/>
<sb n="[[super powers]]"/>
<sb n="[[CGNU]]"/>
<sb n="[[3 Wishes]]"/>
<sb n="[[1 step ahead]]"/>
<sb n="[[superhero name]]"/>
<sb n="[[12:00]]"/>
<sb n="[[sugarbob]]"/>
<sb n="[[flag day]]"/>
<sb n="[[gimmicks]]"/>
<sb n="[[weird dream]]"/>
<sb n="[[sisters]]"/>
<sb n="[[guitar]]"/>
<sb n="[[dullard]]"/>
<sb n="[[helium]]"/>
<sb n="[[property of ones]]"/>
<sb n="[[vacation]]"/>
<sb n="[[invisibility]]"/>
<sb n="[[action figure]]"/>
<sb n="[[little questions]]"/>
<sb n="[[lures & jigs]]"/>
<sb n="[[techno]]"/>
<sb n="[[your friends]]"/>
<sb n="[[new hands]]"/>
<sb n="[[ghosts]]"/>
<sb n="[[theme party]]"/>
<sb n="[[50 emails]]"/>
<sb n="[[website]]"/>
<sb n="[[island]]"/>
<sb n="[[comic]]"/>
<sb n="[[morning routine]]"/>
<sb n="[[cheat talk]]"/>
<sb n="[[current status]]"/>
<sb n="[[japanese cartoon]]"/>
<sb n="[[dragon]]"/>
<sb n="[[marzipan]]"/>
<sb n="[[huttah!]]"/>
<sb n="[[monster truck]]"/>
<sb n="[[interview]]"/>
<sb n="[[fingers]]"/>
<sb n="[[english paper]]"/>
<sb n="[[unused emails]]"/>
<sb n="[[the show]]"/>
<sb n="[[autobiography]]"/>
<sb n="[[caper]]"/>
<sb n="[[personal favorites]]"/>
<sb n="[[big white face]]"/>
<sb n="[[2 emails]]"/>
<sb n="[[crazy cartoon]]"/>
<sb n="[[mascot]]"/>
<sb n="[[privileges]]"/>
<sb n="[[funny]]"/>
<sb n="[[sibbie]]"/>
<sb n="[[suntan]]"/>
<sb n="[[anything]]"/>
<sb n="[[the process]]"/>
<sb n="[[stunt double]]"/>
<sb n="[[date]]"/>
<sb n="[[impression]]"/>
<sb n="[[labor day]]"/>
<sb n="[[kids' book]]"/>
<sb n="[[2 years]]"/>
<sb n="[[no loafing]]"/>
<sb n="[[mile]]"/>
<sb n="[[couch patch]]"/>
<sb n="[[local news]]"/>
<sb n="[[colonization]]"/>
<sb n="[[caffeine]]"/>
<sb n="[[kind of cool]]"/>
<sb n="[[army]]"/>
<sb n="[[video games]]"/>
<sb n="[[the bet]]"/>
<sb n="[[lackey]]"/>
<sb n="[[monument]]"/>
<sb n="[[stupid stuff]]"/>
<sb n="[[different town]]"/>
<sb n="[[flashback]]" u="[[HR:sbemailahundred.html|sbemailahundred.html]]"/>
<sb n="[[car]]"/>
<sb n="[[lunch special]]"/>
<sb n="[[haircut]]"/>
<sb n="[[theme park]]"/>
<sb n="[[replacement]]"/>
<sb n="[[dangeresque 3]]"/>
<sb n="[[cheatday]]"/>
<sb n="[[pom pom]]"/>
<sb n="[[crying]]"/>
<sb n="[[for kids]]"/>
<sb n="[[other days]]"/>
<sb n="[[old comics]]"/>
<sb n="[[pizzaz]]"/>
<sb n="[[the facts]]"/>
<sb n="[[time capsule]]"/>
<sb n="[[extra plug]]"/>
<sb n="[[montage]]"/>
<sb n="[[virus]]"/>
<sb n="[[animal]]"/>
<sb n="[[radio]]"/>
<sb n="[[part-time job]]"/>
<sb n="[[dreamail]]"/>
<sb n="[[origins]]"/>
<sb n="[[secret recipes]]"/>
<sb n="[[rock opera]]"/>
<sb n="[[best thing]]"/>
<sb n="[[long pants]]"/>
<sb n="[[rampage]]"/>
<sb n="[[garage sale]]"/>
<sb n="[[do over]]"/>
<sb n="[[boring (really)]]"/>
<sb n="[[modeling]]"/>
<sb n="[[bottom 10]]"/>
<sb n="[[record book]]"/>
<sb n="[[lady...ing]]"/>
<sb n="[[geddup noise]]" new="yup"/>

==Virus?==

Should we mention that there still is no random button with the little grey links in [[virus]], or should we just consider that as part of the toon itself? [[User:JimmyEatPage|JimmyEatPage]] 05:13, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:That is mentioned. See the section on [[Random Toon#Navigation Bar|the navigation bar]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 18:33, 18 September 2005 (BST)

Main Page 23

Anonomys — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:17:57 GMT

Anonomys: /* Glitches */

[[Image:main_page_23.PNG|220px|thumb|Oh, check me out, it's the front of my head!]]

Behind the set of a main page. Nearly everything is flipped around, since we're seeing it from the back, and ink marks where all the buttons are.

'''Cast (In order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, [[Homestar Runner]], {{Film|Strong Sad}}

'''Icon:''' Piece of wood

'''Page title:''' "Backstage Pass!"

'''Date:''' September 19, 2005

*'''Toons''' — Coach Z pops up with a [[Clapperboard|clapperboard]] and says, "Main Page number 23, take one, action!" Homestar delays saying "Toons" until after he's gone.
*'''Games''' — A piece of wood wiggles loose and falls off of the set, striking Homestar on the head. Homestar replies with "Oof!" It reappears where it was after a few seconds.
*'''Characters''' — On the first mouse-over, Strong Bad jumps up and says "Oh, check me out, it's the front of my head!" while facing away from the user. On the second mouse-over, Strong Bad jumps up and says "Oh, check me out, it's the back of my head!" while facing toward the user.
*'''Downloads''' — The Cheat falls in front of Homestar, facing him and the user, makes a few The Cheat noises and walks off.
*'''Store''' — Another Homestar walks in front of Homestar and says, "'Sup, man?" Homestar replies, "'Sup?" 
*'''E-mail''' — A piece of wood, presumably painted with Strong Sad's head on the opposite side, is pulled across the screen by two strings with the words "[[Wear a Bikini!]]" written on the back of it. From off screen Strong Sad holds up [[Strong Sad's Tape Player|his tape player]] into view and presses "Play," causing it to say (in Strong Sad's voice) "I'm the floating head of dooooom!"

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
* This is the second main page (after [[Main Page 12]]) where we see Homestar from behind.

===Remarks===
* Coach Z says "action" while still holding up the clapperboard; he's still in the shot when Homestar delivers his line.
* The support behind Homestar's head would be visible from the front, but doesn't show up on any of the other main pages.
* The reversed joke was only taken so far. As such, the Weeklies buttons are not truly flipped. It should go in this order, left to right: [[Random Toon]], [[Sketchbook]], [[Weekly Fanstuff]], then [[Quote of the Week]].
* Likewise, the numerical order of the home pages is not reversed, just right-justified.
**This is the only Main Page to refer to them as the compound word "homepages" instead of "home pages."

===Goofs===
* Although the part of the characters button where the "s" would be is partly sticking out, the characters buttons on other main pages don't stick out at all.
* Homestar is standing in front of the set and the piece of wood that falls is behind it, so it should drop behind him, not hit him on the head.
*The portions of the first three buttons that are sticking out of the cardboard are not clickable.

===Glitches===
* If you hold down the tab button on this menu, several hidden items become highlighted. You cannot click on them with your mouse, but you can select them by pressing enter.
** To the left of the visible recent updates button is another recent updated button.
** There is yet another recent updates button where the recent updates button normally is.
** There is another [[First Time Here?]] button on the left side located where the First Time Here? button normally is ''relative to'' the recent updates button.
** There is yet another First Time Here? button off the right edge of where it normally is.

==External Links==
*[[HR:main23.html|go to Main Page 23]]
*[[HR:main23.swf|view the Flash file for Main Page 23]]
*[[HR:homepages_23.swf|view the homepages file for Main Page 23]]
*[[Forum:5023|forum thread re: Main Page 23]]
{{Main Page}}

[[Category: Main Pages]]

Talk:Main Page 23

Anonomys — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:13:32 GMT

Anonomys: /* ? or ! */

== Tape Recorder ==

Don't you think we should say something about this being the only main page where the Home Pages buttons are covered, even if it is just for a few secconds?

:Well, sure Annonny, I guess... It is somewhat noteworthy, and when you mentioned it it made me go "Woah? Really?" and go double check. It is (when Strong Sad's hand comes out.) --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 01:40, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Randomizer ==

Is this main page featured on the main page randomizer, or is it another deal like [[Main Page 22]]? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:30, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:From decompiling main_nav.swf, all main pages would appear to be gettable using the "main" link on the navbar. Then again, I know practically nothing about decompiling stuff. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 18:37, 19 September 2005 (BST)

:: I hit the "main" button a few times and eventually hit 23. So yes, it's on the main page randomizer. As for 22, I don't know if it's currently there or not. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:40, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::: I hit the main button on the bottom (not the one on the title page) and got 22. --{{User:Camalex/sig}}
:::: I eventually got 21, 22, and 23. I removed part of the fact on Main Pages where it says you can't reach these pages. I haven't investigated whether clicking "come on in" will take you here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:19, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::Come On In will not take you to 12, 22, or 23. At least I didn't get any of them after five minutes. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 20:23, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::Just decompiled welcome.swf. The TOTAL_MAINPAGES line is set to 20, so yes, Main Pages 21, 22, and 23 are inaccesible by it. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:25, 19 September 2005 (BST)

:::::Aw, man! That's what I was just doing. Erm, so, I ''can'' say that Venusy is right, at least. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:53, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::You sure? I think I've gotten 21 and 22 before. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 13:39, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Clapperboard ==

Is there an article for the Clab Board thing? I can't find it. If there isn't, i think there should. How do I add it?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 21:36, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:The clapperboard? Well anyway, to make a page put - <nowiki> [[Clapperboard]] </nowiki> in the sandbox or on your userpage and it should appear in red. Click on the link and that will take you to the editing screen. Then, edit away!--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 22:10, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC) ''(the link name was fixed in this post — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]])''

::Here also is the Wikipedia link for [[Wikipedia:clapperboard|clapperboard]], which should come in handy for you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:26, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Thanks guys. I call making it! lol I am so excited about learning how to make pages. Thanks so much!--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 23:49, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Okay! Calm down, spaz! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

FaceCrap, don't make fun of other users.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 02:40, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== 2 Homestars ==

Okay, this main page proves there are 2 Homestars. Freaky. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 21:59, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I bet the one facing away from us is [[Mustachioed_Homestar_Runner#Other|wearing a fake mustache]]. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:03, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Good hypothisis! {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 22:23, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::Should there be a cloned homestar charcter page?
::::Nah, I don't think so. It's just one of those weird things that happen on Homestar Runner Dot Com every now and then. Also, it's debatable how much of the Main Pages are actually canon anyway. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::OK, let's debate it: Why in the world would main pages not be canon? [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 19:57, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::its meraly a joke about stunt doubles.[[User:Darkstalker|Darkstalker]]
:::Um...[[stunt double|''stunt doubles'']]? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 13:33, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::I totally agree: it's [[Mustachioed_Homestar_Runner#Other|Mustachioed Homestar Runner]] - NOT a second normal Homestar. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 19:57, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:It doesn't prove there are 2 Homestars. [[Senorial Day]] proved that. There's one Homestar with a mustache, and another one without. On this page we can't see whether there's a mustache or not, so we don't know whether there are 2 identical Homestars or 2 Homestars a little different. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 20:03, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::I think they're making fun of homestar's old voice, which they still use for the main pages.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 20:15, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::Um, I think you're going a little off topic there. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 02:36, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I '''second''' the idea that it is making fun of stunt doubles.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 20:11, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

== Back Head ==

This is really freaky! I was pressing on the tab bar, and after a second of the yellow box scrolling really fast, Strong Bad popped up but facing me and he said "Oh, It's the back of my head!". Has anyone else ever gottn this? It was on the .swf file, just to tell you. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]
:Um... yeah, that's what he does when you mouse over it a second time. [[Main Page 23|You know we have a wiki, right?]] :P (Sorry, forum quote.) - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

== ? or ! ==

Maybe I'm being nitpicky here, but I think it would be more appropriate for the transcript to read "Sup, man!" and "Sup!" with exclamation points instead of question marks. Especially in this context, I don't think they're really questions so much as just greetings. I don't know. That's just me.
:i agree.......greatly
::I disagree, but not greatly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::I think it could be taken either way. I mean, who freakin' cares? IT'S A PUNCTUATION MARK! --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 01:42, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::::but thats the blood of this wiki! lol i think it should be "sup man?" "Sup!"
: I '''second''' the idea of it being changed to "sup man?" "Sup!" that was proposed by the guy who didn't sign his post.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 20:13, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

== Incorrectly regarded as goofs ==

I know this article is still young, but I think so far we've been overly critical with regard to the goofs. I think DorianGray said it best: "It's debatable how much of the Main Pages are actually canon anyway."
*'''The Weeklies buttons are not truly flipped. It should go in this order, left to right: [[Random Toon]], [[Sketchbook]], [[Weekly Fanstuff]], then [[Quote of the Week]].'''
**While this is true, TBC would have had to make another [http://www.homestarrunner.com/newbutton.swf newbutton.swf] for this to happen. So by them not doing this, we consider this a goof?
***They went to the trouble to make the rest of the page reversed, why leave this one out? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
****I think they left this out simply due to the reason I supplied: Having to make an "reversed" flash file. I'll further extend this to [http://www.homestarrunner.com/homepages_23.swf homepage_23.swf]. They didn't reverse the numerical order for a similiar reason. The only notable change I see from [http://www.homestarrunner.com/homepages.swf homepages.swf] is the that the buttons are justified to the right instead of the left. {{User:The Paper/sig}}
*****But in making "homepages_23", they proved that they could, if they wanted to, have made "newbutton_23". Also, now that you bring it up, I think the numerical order should be reversed on the home pages. Again, why do most of a joke but not all of it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:51, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
******I can't speak for TBC, but I would say they probably didn't reverse order of the weeklies and the homepages because of difficulties in doing so. At this point, we're both speculating as to why TBC didn't complete the joke. I think it comes down to the limits of what you can do in Flash '''easily'''. I stress easily here not to discredit any of TBC's work, but to show that I think they would have done it had it been more feasable. My argument here is that it isn't GOOF. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 22:19, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
*******It's still notable, so I'll meet you halfway. Moving to remarks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:29, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
<hr width="50%">
*'''If The Cheat falls while the other Homestar is walking past, Homestar is in front of The Cheat even though from the perspective he should be farther away.'''
** Things like this happen many times in main pages, See [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page_13&diff=prev&oldid=59953 Firebird's edit on Main Page 13].
*** I could do without this one. Isn't it a Flash artifact and therefore disqualified anyway? In fact, I'm gonna give this one the del taco on those grounds. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
****Actually, I think that TBC can do the layering themselves, and it actually is their own mistake. I work in flash, so I'd probably know. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]
*****Still, each button is its own segment, independent of the others. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:07, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)
******The term "Flash artifact" is over-applied around here. It's meant to refer to unusual things found by ''manipulating'' the Flash file (that is, watching the .swf file directly or right-clicking and using the options there.) Thus, this ''is'' a mistake, not a Flash artifact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:49, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)
*******I was gonna move your comments here but I see you already have some. I see your point, but I don't think it's a mistake. Possibly a glitch or a remark, but not a goof, because the buttons, technically, are independent from each other, and each one is supposed to play out on its own. The fact that two buttons together don't quite work might be notable, but we haven't listed them as goofs on other main pages. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:13, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)
********Examining the other main pages, this situation actually comes up almost never, and when it has, they've been pretty consistent about getting the layering right. I dunno... I guess I could see it as a goof (rather than a remark or a glitch) if someone really ''really'' felt that they should have gotten it right. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
<hr width="50%">
*'''The support behind Homestar's head would be visible from the front, but doesn't show up on any of the other main pages.'''
** It is true that other main pages do not have a piece of wood in that spot. However, for all we know it was added to the wooden "set" between Main Page 22 and this one for all we know. Perhaps we can move this to "remarks".
***I'll move this to remarks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
<hr width="50%">
*'''Homestar is standing in front of the set and the piece of wood that falls is behind it, so it should drop behind him, not hit him on the head.'''
** Again, I think we're being overly critical here. Generally odd things that defy the laws of physics happen on main pages. Is it a goof every time Homsar's hat falls back to his head when normally it should have missed his head and fell on the ground? {{User:The Paper/sig}} 20:38, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
***Meh, I could go either way on this one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:43, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
***Perhaps the wooden set is leaning away from the camera, so its actually over Homestar's head

== Comments ==
I really like the fact that Strong Sad could very easily have said "I'm the floating head of doom" himself, but instead for some reason he plays a recording of himself saying it. Funny stuff.
--[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

That is because Strong Sad would have to repeat it over and over, never sounding different.

:That's barely an issue. I mean, Strong Bad and Homestar do that just fine here. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 17:18, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Home Pages vs. Main Pages ==

TBC have called them 'home pages' and the wiki calls them 'Main Pages'. Is there any difference between these two terms or is this one of those wikisms like '[[The Guy at the Depot]]'? {{User:The Paper/sig}} 22:36, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Er, the button on the main page reads "new main page" and the link in the navbar reads "main" AND Coach Z calls it "main page number 23". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:39, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::BTW, there's a space in the "home pages" title above the links to the, um, main pages. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::: True. Every ''main page'' except this one. See [[FAQ#Cartoons_.26_SB_Emails|'homepages' in FAQ]]. Looks like even TBC can't keep it straight. Just like the canon spelling of The Paper's sound. ;) {{User:The Paper/sig}} 22:45, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::: Ah, touché, mon ami. There's actually a lot of examples like that, now that I think about it (listing them all would take up too much space here). But I did think of another "main" argument: Just look at the file name for each of the pages. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:54, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::: You got me there. Clearly the preferred term is 'main page'. Now I wonder why 'mainpage' never caught on. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 23:01, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::::: I dunno. I kinda prefer the two-word form myself. Main page. Home page. Here on the wiki: User page. Talk page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== Removed Entry ==

Does this belong back here?
*The way The Cheat falls and the sounds he makes may be a reference to the "[[Kick The Cheat]]" mini-game used to sell the The Cheat plush toy.

This was removed by [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=149.143.200.7 149.143.200.7] back in Sept 19, who I have seen randomly removing stuff from sites (I have added to the troll list). It hasn't been fixed since, but it seems like a plausible remark. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:49, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Strong Bad Speaks ==

Is it just me, or does Strong Bad move his head/talk slower than the actual sound clip? There might be something wrong with my computer, and it doesn't happen with any of the other things. [[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]] 19:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, my visuals lag behind the sound ''frequently'' in many toons, and it often seems to be related to my memory. Don't worry 'bout it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:49, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page 23

Anonomys — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:11:24 GMT

Anonomys: /* 2 Homestars */

== Tape Recorder ==

Don't you think we should say something about this being the only main page where the Home Pages buttons are covered, even if it is just for a few secconds?

:Well, sure Annonny, I guess... It is somewhat noteworthy, and when you mentioned it it made me go "Woah? Really?" and go double check. It is (when Strong Sad's hand comes out.) --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 01:40, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Randomizer ==

Is this main page featured on the main page randomizer, or is it another deal like [[Main Page 22]]? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:30, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:From decompiling main_nav.swf, all main pages would appear to be gettable using the "main" link on the navbar. Then again, I know practically nothing about decompiling stuff. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 18:37, 19 September 2005 (BST)

:: I hit the "main" button a few times and eventually hit 23. So yes, it's on the main page randomizer. As for 22, I don't know if it's currently there or not. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:40, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::: I hit the main button on the bottom (not the one on the title page) and got 22. --{{User:Camalex/sig}}
:::: I eventually got 21, 22, and 23. I removed part of the fact on Main Pages where it says you can't reach these pages. I haven't investigated whether clicking "come on in" will take you here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:19, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::Come On In will not take you to 12, 22, or 23. At least I didn't get any of them after five minutes. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 20:23, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::Just decompiled welcome.swf. The TOTAL_MAINPAGES line is set to 20, so yes, Main Pages 21, 22, and 23 are inaccesible by it. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:25, 19 September 2005 (BST)

:::::Aw, man! That's what I was just doing. Erm, so, I ''can'' say that Venusy is right, at least. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:53, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::You sure? I think I've gotten 21 and 22 before. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 13:39, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Clapperboard ==

Is there an article for the Clab Board thing? I can't find it. If there isn't, i think there should. How do I add it?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 21:36, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:The clapperboard? Well anyway, to make a page put - <nowiki> [[Clapperboard]] </nowiki> in the sandbox or on your userpage and it should appear in red. Click on the link and that will take you to the editing screen. Then, edit away!--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 22:10, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC) ''(the link name was fixed in this post — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]])''

::Here also is the Wikipedia link for [[Wikipedia:clapperboard|clapperboard]], which should come in handy for you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:26, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Thanks guys. I call making it! lol I am so excited about learning how to make pages. Thanks so much!--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 23:49, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Okay! Calm down, spaz! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

FaceCrap, don't make fun of other users.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 02:40, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== 2 Homestars ==

Okay, this main page proves there are 2 Homestars. Freaky. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 21:59, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I bet the one facing away from us is [[Mustachioed_Homestar_Runner#Other|wearing a fake mustache]]. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:03, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Good hypothisis! {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 22:23, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::Should there be a cloned homestar charcter page?
::::Nah, I don't think so. It's just one of those weird things that happen on Homestar Runner Dot Com every now and then. Also, it's debatable how much of the Main Pages are actually canon anyway. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::OK, let's debate it: Why in the world would main pages not be canon? [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 19:57, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::its meraly a joke about stunt doubles.[[User:Darkstalker|Darkstalker]]
:::Um...[[stunt double|''stunt doubles'']]? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 13:33, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::I totally agree: it's [[Mustachioed_Homestar_Runner#Other|Mustachioed Homestar Runner]] - NOT a second normal Homestar. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 19:57, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:It doesn't prove there are 2 Homestars. [[Senorial Day]] proved that. There's one Homestar with a mustache, and another one without. On this page we can't see whether there's a mustache or not, so we don't know whether there are 2 identical Homestars or 2 Homestars a little different. [[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 20:03, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::I think they're making fun of homestar's old voice, which they still use for the main pages.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 20:15, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::Um, I think you're going a little off topic there. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 02:36, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I '''second''' the idea that it is making fun of stunt doubles.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 20:11, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

== Back Head ==

This is really freaky! I was pressing on the tab bar, and after a second of the yellow box scrolling really fast, Strong Bad popped up but facing me and he said "Oh, It's the back of my head!". Has anyone else ever gottn this? It was on the .swf file, just to tell you. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]
:Um... yeah, that's what he does when you mouse over it a second time. [[Main Page 23|You know we have a wiki, right?]] :P (Sorry, forum quote.) - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

== ? or ! ==

Maybe I'm being nitpicky here, but I think it would be more appropriate for the transcript to read "Sup, man!" and "Sup!" with exclamation points instead of question marks. Especially in this context, I don't think they're really questions so much as just greetings. I don't know. That's just me.
:i agree.......greatly
::I disagree, but not greatly. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::I think it could be taken either way. I mean, who freakin' cares? IT'S A PUNCTUATION MARK! --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 01:42, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::::but thats the blood of this wiki! lol i think it should be "sup man?" "Sup!"

== Incorrectly regarded as goofs ==

I know this article is still young, but I think so far we've been overly critical with regard to the goofs. I think DorianGray said it best: "It's debatable how much of the Main Pages are actually canon anyway."
*'''The Weeklies buttons are not truly flipped. It should go in this order, left to right: [[Random Toon]], [[Sketchbook]], [[Weekly Fanstuff]], then [[Quote of the Week]].'''
**While this is true, TBC would have had to make another [http://www.homestarrunner.com/newbutton.swf newbutton.swf] for this to happen. So by them not doing this, we consider this a goof?
***They went to the trouble to make the rest of the page reversed, why leave this one out? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
****I think they left this out simply due to the reason I supplied: Having to make an "reversed" flash file. I'll further extend this to [http://www.homestarrunner.com/homepages_23.swf homepage_23.swf]. They didn't reverse the numerical order for a similiar reason. The only notable change I see from [http://www.homestarrunner.com/homepages.swf homepages.swf] is the that the buttons are justified to the right instead of the left. {{User:The Paper/sig}}
*****But in making "homepages_23", they proved that they could, if they wanted to, have made "newbutton_23". Also, now that you bring it up, I think the numerical order should be reversed on the home pages. Again, why do most of a joke but not all of it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:51, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
******I can't speak for TBC, but I would say they probably didn't reverse order of the weeklies and the homepages because of difficulties in doing so. At this point, we're both speculating as to why TBC didn't complete the joke. I think it comes down to the limits of what you can do in Flash '''easily'''. I stress easily here not to discredit any of TBC's work, but to show that I think they would have done it had it been more feasable. My argument here is that it isn't GOOF. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 22:19, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
*******It's still notable, so I'll meet you halfway. Moving to remarks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:29, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
<hr width="50%">
*'''If The Cheat falls while the other Homestar is walking past, Homestar is in front of The Cheat even though from the perspective he should be farther away.'''
** Things like this happen many times in main pages, See [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page_13&diff=prev&oldid=59953 Firebird's edit on Main Page 13].
*** I could do without this one. Isn't it a Flash artifact and therefore disqualified anyway? In fact, I'm gonna give this one the del taco on those grounds. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
****Actually, I think that TBC can do the layering themselves, and it actually is their own mistake. I work in flash, so I'd probably know. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]
*****Still, each button is its own segment, independent of the others. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:07, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)
******The term "Flash artifact" is over-applied around here. It's meant to refer to unusual things found by ''manipulating'' the Flash file (that is, watching the .swf file directly or right-clicking and using the options there.) Thus, this ''is'' a mistake, not a Flash artifact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:49, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)
*******I was gonna move your comments here but I see you already have some. I see your point, but I don't think it's a mistake. Possibly a glitch or a remark, but not a goof, because the buttons, technically, are independent from each other, and each one is supposed to play out on its own. The fact that two buttons together don't quite work might be notable, but we haven't listed them as goofs on other main pages. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:13, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)
********Examining the other main pages, this situation actually comes up almost never, and when it has, they've been pretty consistent about getting the layering right. I dunno... I guess I could see it as a goof (rather than a remark or a glitch) if someone really ''really'' felt that they should have gotten it right. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
<hr width="50%">
*'''The support behind Homestar's head would be visible from the front, but doesn't show up on any of the other main pages.'''
** It is true that other main pages do not have a piece of wood in that spot. However, for all we know it was added to the wooden "set" between Main Page 22 and this one for all we know. Perhaps we can move this to "remarks".
***I'll move this to remarks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
<hr width="50%">
*'''Homestar is standing in front of the set and the piece of wood that falls is behind it, so it should drop behind him, not hit him on the head.'''
** Again, I think we're being overly critical here. Generally odd things that defy the laws of physics happen on main pages. Is it a goof every time Homsar's hat falls back to his head when normally it should have missed his head and fell on the ground? {{User:The Paper/sig}} 20:38, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
***Meh, I could go either way on this one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:43, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
***Perhaps the wooden set is leaning away from the camera, so its actually over Homestar's head

== Comments ==
I really like the fact that Strong Sad could very easily have said "I'm the floating head of doom" himself, but instead for some reason he plays a recording of himself saying it. Funny stuff.
--[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

That is because Strong Sad would have to repeat it over and over, never sounding different.

:That's barely an issue. I mean, Strong Bad and Homestar do that just fine here. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 17:18, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Home Pages vs. Main Pages ==

TBC have called them 'home pages' and the wiki calls them 'Main Pages'. Is there any difference between these two terms or is this one of those wikisms like '[[The Guy at the Depot]]'? {{User:The Paper/sig}} 22:36, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Er, the button on the main page reads "new main page" and the link in the navbar reads "main" AND Coach Z calls it "main page number 23". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:39, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::BTW, there's a space in the "home pages" title above the links to the, um, main pages. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::: True. Every ''main page'' except this one. See [[FAQ#Cartoons_.26_SB_Emails|'homepages' in FAQ]]. Looks like even TBC can't keep it straight. Just like the canon spelling of The Paper's sound. ;) {{User:The Paper/sig}} 22:45, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::: Ah, touché, mon ami. There's actually a lot of examples like that, now that I think about it (listing them all would take up too much space here). But I did think of another "main" argument: Just look at the file name for each of the pages. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:54, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::: You got me there. Clearly the preferred term is 'main page'. Now I wonder why 'mainpage' never caught on. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 23:01, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::::: I dunno. I kinda prefer the two-word form myself. Main page. Home page. Here on the wiki: User page. Talk page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== Removed Entry ==

Does this belong back here?
*The way The Cheat falls and the sounds he makes may be a reference to the "[[Kick The Cheat]]" mini-game used to sell the The Cheat plush toy.

This was removed by [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=149.143.200.7 149.143.200.7] back in Sept 19, who I have seen randomly removing stuff from sites (I have added to the troll list). It hasn't been fixed since, but it seems like a plausible remark. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:49, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Strong Bad Speaks ==

Is it just me, or does Strong Bad move his head/talk slower than the actual sound clip? There might be something wrong with my computer, and it doesn't happen with any of the other things. [[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]] 19:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, my visuals lag behind the sound ''frequently'' in many toons, and it often seems to be related to my memory. Don't worry 'bout it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:49, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Bronco Trolleys

Anonomys — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:39:31 GMT

Anonomys: /* Taste Test */

==Closed STUFF==
===Wagon Wheel===
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. --[[User:15.235.153.95|15.235.153.95]] 18:13, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I just read the [http://www.wtfiml33t.com/viewarticle.php?artid=59&page=1 article] mentioned above. No ''intentional'' homage mentioned! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

== Taste Test ==

I ate a Bronco Trolley once. It's not that bad actually (I peeled the orage slice though).- [[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
:I just don't see how these could be eten fast enough to be an after-school snack, if only because of the orange slice.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:39, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Bronco Trolleys

Anonomys — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:39:09 GMT

Anonomys: /* Taste Test */

==Closed STUFF==
===Wagon Wheel===
This after-school snack is along the lines of the Wagon Wheel (a slice of cheese between 2 round crackers) which was immortalized in the classic "Time For Timer" cartoon about [http://www.allthingsanimated.com/ata/episodes.asp?cartoon_id=885 hankering for a hunk of cheese]. The circular shape, Western theme, suggestion of locomotion, and after-school nature of this snack add up to a [[TBC]] homage. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]] 03:05, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I suppose that's interesting. --67.161.224.65
*'''Rewrite''' Fun facts shouldn't reference "me". The wiki is supposed to be informational, like an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Tim333|Tim333]]
** Good point: It was re-written as suggested. --[[User:beanluc|beanluc]]
*'''Rewrite''' It wasn't Schoolhouse Rock. It was Time for Timer. --Jeffrey
*'''Accept.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
*'''Decline''' In an interview with one of the Brothers Chaps, he says that the Bronco Trolley was something he saw in a dream.
**Please sign your vote. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:11, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. [[User:Fizz123|Fizzy Again!]]
*'''Second''' the last unsigned vote. --[[User:15.235.153.95|15.235.153.95]] 18:13, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' I'd agree with you, but there's proof that says otherwise.[[User:TakuaKaita600|TakuaKaita600]] 20:11, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' I just read the [http://www.wtfiml33t.com/viewarticle.php?artid=59&page=1 article] mentioned above. No ''intentional'' homage mentioned! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

== Taste Test ==

I ate a Bronco Trolley once. It's not that bad actually (I peeled the orage slice though).- [[User:Runstar Homer|Runstar Homer]]
:I just don't see how these could be eten fast enough to be an after-school snake, if only because of the orange slice.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:39, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk:RhinoFeeder

Anonomys — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:27:58 GMT

Anonomys: /* 8-bit vs. 16-bit */

==999,999==
Hey, if you get past a score of 999,999...ummm.......Actually, assuming anyone's crazy enough to test this--Could you please tell me if the score would restart, freeze, or if a secret message appears or anything. Much appreciated. -Justin Hack

Dear Justin: Why not Fast forward and find out? Just kidding, [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]] ;)

:No, nothing happens after 999,999, or any number of points, for that matter. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

== 8-bit vs. 16-bit ==

Let's compare:
===8-bit graphics===
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/NES_Super_Mario_Bros_3.png
===Strong Bad's RhinoFeeder===
[[Image:rhinofeeder.PNG]]
===16-bit graphics===
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a1/SuperMarioBros3SNES.png
----
RhinoFeeder looks more 8-bit to me, although "Super Funmachine" seems to be a reference to the Super Nintendo. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:57, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

:What's your point? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

Some pages say (or said) RhinoFeeder's graphics are 16-bit or 8-bit, so I wanted to show everybody what they think is the most plausible. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:14, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

:to me, the rinofeeder's graphics look worse than the 8-bit.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:27, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Toons

Anonomys — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:11:50 GMT

Anonomys: /* Questions */

==Question==
Did anyone else notice that 3 times Halloween Funjob and A Jorb Well Done are on the same channel? They're the only two. [[User:ShadowIce|ShadowIce]] 18:33 13 Sep 2005 (MST)
:No, they're not the only two. All Puppet Jams are on the same "channel." As are Where's The Cheat and Cheat Commandos ''and'' The Cheat Theme Song. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:36, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Status report==

YES! All the big toons are done now! It's lookin' more like a Hrwiki every day, huh!?! -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 13:49, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Great job! -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:03, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

New question...Do we further break down categories? Like toons/big toons and toons/shorts, toons/powered by the cheat etc, etc, etc? Is this possible, or should they all be lumped together under the blanket "Toons" category? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 21:19, 6 Aug 2004 (MST)

:Yeah, I suppose we could. Have everything in the "Toons" category, and then the ones in the puppet listing could go in the puppets category, and the ones in the powered by The Cheat category could go in that category, and so forth. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:00, 7 Aug 2004 (MST)

::what would the code for that look like? -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 12:21, 7 Aug 2004 (MST)

:::You'd just add it to more than one category. Like <nowiki>[[Category:Toons]] [[Category:Powered by The Cheat]]</nowiki> and so forth. The pages would then show up in both categories. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:14, 7 Aug 2004 (MST)

== Experimental Film ==
Should [[Experimental Film]] go under PbtC as well, or does it violate Once And Only Once? I think it should go under the Powered by the Cheat category (btw, how do you link to a category page), but what about the list on this page? -- [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 08:57, 23 Aug 2004 (MST)

:I don't think having something in more that one category would violate [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]. But is it categorized like that on the Toons menu on h*r.com? And I think when ever you link to a category page (<nowiki>[[Category:Toons]]</nowiki>), that page you linked to it from is put into that category. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:15, 23 Aug 2004 (MST)

this and all others are for some reason, long. even the 56 second ones

== Static Fun Fact ==

Uh... I see no profile shot of a man in the "static" easter egg. Anyone want to direct me towards it or upload a picture? -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|[[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]] 01:28, 18 Nov 2004 )UTC)

I don't see it either. Methinks someone was cloud watching and this is an image known only to them. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but perhaps it doesn't belong in the easter eggs. :) --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018]] 18:41, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Questions ==
This is like, the dumbest question ever. How do the bros chaps make the toons? --[[User:24.136.225.226|24.136.225.226]] 23:16, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

:[http://www.homestarrunner.com/faq.html] --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 16:20, 18 Feb 2005 (MST)
:using flash.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:11, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

== New Cat idea ==

Should we make a maintainence category for toons that have a lot of fun facts that aren't split up? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 19:01, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

Great idea! I'm in. --[[User:65.87.191.30|65.87.191.30]] 18:51, 1 Mar 2005 (MST) __NOTOC__

==No Picture?==

Just a quick question, why is there no picture for the Toons page anymore? Does it have to do with modem users? --[[User:Homsar999|Homsar999]][[User_talk:Homsar999|ß]] 17:33, 1 May 2005 (CDT)

:maybe it should have one of those little background pictures.

== The Joy of Painting ==

Dear HrWiki,
While examining the toons menu, i looked at the small DVD's in the left-hand corner of the page. Now, I dunno if you have already recognised this, but it seems that if you roll your mouse over the "Joy of Painting" DVD all the way to the right, you can see Marzipan silently painting. It goes on for hours. There's really not much you can do.
404'd!
Taylor F. Pennsylvania

*Yeah, that's already noted over [[Toons Menu|har]]. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:57, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== THE DANCING CHEAT ==

I FOUND A SECRET PAGE THAT HAS THE CHEAT DANCING. I THINK IT IS FUNNY. GOODBYE.
SUPAHFARMER
PS I WILL NOT TELL YOU HOW I GOT IT.

*OH, SO YOU WON'T TELL US, EH? MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST!! [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 18:58, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::I CONCUR WITH KVB. WE KNOW MOST ALL OF THE SECRETS ON HSR AND THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM. THEREFORE IT IS LOGICAL TO ASSUME YOU ARE LYING. GOOD DAY. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 19:36, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::HOW CAN YOU ARGUE WITH LOGIC LIKE THAT? -- [[User:Tony Stony|TONY STONY]]

::::YOU ARE JUST ANNOYING. I HOPE YOU GET YOUR SHIFT BUTTON FIXED.-[[User:Alice|Alice]]

:::::WHAT THEY SAID YOU DIRTY LIAR! --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 23:10, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

[[Timmy!]]

== Channel IDs ==

Does anybody really taken any real notice of the black and white ratings boxes that appear before the titles of the toons? You know, '''DMP''' A Folky Tale, and '''BUG''' Bug in Mouth Disease? An anonny started a new section for the ratings, but I think it would be better to put the three letter rating before the titles of the toons on this page. For example:

* '''(DMP)''' [[A Folky Tale]] – Strong Sad tries to get out of gym class. ''4:10 long, 2005''
* '''(KUL)''' [[Cool Things]] – Homestar writes on the wall. Bubs is closed. ''4:00 long, 2005''

Does anybody like it?
—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:32, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:That's fine, except that they're not ratings. They're the little ovals used in things like TV Guide to [http://www.ethaninspace.com/images/TVGuide.jpg identify the channel.] — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:58, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Screenshots ==
Shouldn't the screenshots here be taken from the Teebee's small video clip of the toon? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 15:48, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:You know, you almost quadrupled the scrolling distance with your screenshots. Is it really worth it? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 16:13, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::I reduced the size of the images. If someone wants to enlarge one, can't they just click on it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:06, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::That looks better Dot com!--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 17:07, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0

Anonomys — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:44:01 GMT

Anonomys: /* Help Me */

== Cleanup ==

This page needs:

<s>
*Any POV removed.
*Sentence mechanics fixed.
*Conformed section titles.
*Similar formatting to previous walkthroughs.</s>

—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:21, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I'm ZerosVIII, I made the Walkthrough right before registering an account (I was an Anonymous user at the time I made it)
I apologize for any errors made while I made that, as well as anything I did that didn't follow the usual walkthrough format.

--ZerosVIII

:That's okay. To quote someone from Wikipedia, "You don't have to make an article perfect, just make it better." There are other people who would love to clean it up. Thank you for your walkthrough. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:36, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I've just been in there and did a major edit; I hope this helps everyone. ZerosVIII, you wrote a great walkthrough, and you've really helped out the wiki.

I'm leaving the cleanup tag in there until someone else gets a chance to look at this. If anyone sees something that I've missed, you know what to do.

--[[User:Teplotaxl|Teplotaxl]] 13:52, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Name Consensus ==

I was just wondering, should we call "NEGATORY" level 8 or level -0? Because different people are calling it different things, and that could confuse people. I'd say that -0 is probably the better of the two choices. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:15, 1 August 2005 (BST)

:I vote for -0. It's not called Level 8 anywhere except the internal code and the main page. It's called -0 everywhere in the game so that's what we should call it here. That sort of reasoning has been used often before, and I think it makes sense. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:06, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I vote '''8''' '''comment'''there is already a poll for this on the central page for the stinkoman game.'''another comment''' the manuel calls it level 8

==what the crap?==
did anyone else notice the wierd advertisement that spoke one time durig that level?it said like:"you can get a XBOX 3 and a plastation 5 for only somethin' dollars bla bla bla"and i forget the rest, and i check my bar on the bottom of my screen, no pop ups but it only happend once......any coments?

That's some spyware you've got there, I'm afraid. I remember one time I was infected: at random intervals, a disembodied voice would whisper "Carl's Jr.". --v

thanks for that info v. i have spyware remover anyway..

==WEIRDED OUT!==
I thought level -0 was TOTALLY WEIRD! And so did everybody else I believe.-{{User:Gordon 584.sig}}

:I think the levels are a bit confusing, and the fact that you can't hurt the boss's 'Tants is kind of wierd, but I think that the only really messed up part is the level number. -0 isn't a number, and the first half of the level is usually .1 more, the second half .2 more, and the boss .3 more. It should have been level -1, and sections -0.9, -0.8, and -0.7. [[User:DanielLC|Daniel]] 22:48, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Shadowy Figure ==

Obviously, the shadowy figure is 20X6 Coach Z. You can tell because of the kind of hat he is wearing. I do not know if this is true, but it seems pretty obvious.
--[[User:The_Ugly_One|The Ugly One]]

: I noticed that too. --[[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]

um how do you go here????

:why would/how did coach Z get a castle?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:40, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Stinkoball Z==

Anyone think the similarity in Stinkoman's blast in the cutscene to the Kamehameha of Dragonball Z fame should be noted? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]
: No. Too generic. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:44, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Music==
Is it just me, or is the music on Level -0 a mix of all the other musics? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 02:33, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
*No, I thought so too. First it's L1 music, then swaps to L5 music or something. --[[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 00:10, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's exactly this: 5,2,4,6,?,6,? then repeats. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]

To me it sounds like the intro from level 1, then level 5 (up a semitone), 2, 4, both 4 and 1 played at the same time, quite a bit of 6 (with a few notes changed), then a riff that I don't recognise from anywhere else to tie it into the next repeat. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:13, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Explanation for wierd platform? ==

The wierd floating platform at the beginning of this stage has a fine white line: just like the dotted walls in various Pokemon games.--[[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 00:11, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Skips ==

I have a slow compy, but when I get to Ekersby's level it skips and I keep getting killed. This doesn't happen on a library compy, though. [[User:209.104.139.221|209.104.139.221]]

:very odd.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:42, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Help Me==
Out all the bosses I faced, Elskerby is the toughest. That tornado was the second toughest. I can't really stay alive because of all the projectiles and those sporks. Can somebody give me any tips to defeating Elskerby?-{{User:Gordon 584.sig}}
:elskerby is simple once you figure out how the timing works. just keep trying, there's a 1 up at the begining of .2 anyway to ensure having 4 goes in a row.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:44, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

== Shiveryawn ==

Listen closely to stinkoman in this level when he begins to yawn, well actually before he yawns....
Some say, its the same sound when he yawns in other levels. Tried it, it was bullhoooooooooonky. =P
Shiver sound! -StrongGlad20X6 as a random contributor!

:Nope, he ''definately'' makes that sound before yawning in other levels. Try it with the cheat program - press Ctrl-0 to turn off the music to make it easier to hear. {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:58, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0

Anonomys — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:43:46 GMT

Anonomys: /* Help Me */

== Cleanup ==

This page needs:

<s>
*Any POV removed.
*Sentence mechanics fixed.
*Conformed section titles.
*Similar formatting to previous walkthroughs.</s>

—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:21, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I'm ZerosVIII, I made the Walkthrough right before registering an account (I was an Anonymous user at the time I made it)
I apologize for any errors made while I made that, as well as anything I did that didn't follow the usual walkthrough format.

--ZerosVIII

:That's okay. To quote someone from Wikipedia, "You don't have to make an article perfect, just make it better." There are other people who would love to clean it up. Thank you for your walkthrough. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:36, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I've just been in there and did a major edit; I hope this helps everyone. ZerosVIII, you wrote a great walkthrough, and you've really helped out the wiki.

I'm leaving the cleanup tag in there until someone else gets a chance to look at this. If anyone sees something that I've missed, you know what to do.

--[[User:Teplotaxl|Teplotaxl]] 13:52, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Name Consensus ==

I was just wondering, should we call "NEGATORY" level 8 or level -0? Because different people are calling it different things, and that could confuse people. I'd say that -0 is probably the better of the two choices. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:15, 1 August 2005 (BST)

:I vote for -0. It's not called Level 8 anywhere except the internal code and the main page. It's called -0 everywhere in the game so that's what we should call it here. That sort of reasoning has been used often before, and I think it makes sense. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:06, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I vote '''8''' '''comment'''there is already a poll for this on the central page for the stinkoman game.'''another comment''' the manuel calls it level 8

==what the crap?==
did anyone else notice the wierd advertisement that spoke one time durig that level?it said like:"you can get a XBOX 3 and a plastation 5 for only somethin' dollars bla bla bla"and i forget the rest, and i check my bar on the bottom of my screen, no pop ups but it only happend once......any coments?

That's some spyware you've got there, I'm afraid. I remember one time I was infected: at random intervals, a disembodied voice would whisper "Carl's Jr.". --v

thanks for that info v. i have spyware remover anyway..

==WEIRDED OUT!==
I thought level -0 was TOTALLY WEIRD! And so did everybody else I believe.-{{User:Gordon 584.sig}}

:I think the levels are a bit confusing, and the fact that you can't hurt the boss's 'Tants is kind of wierd, but I think that the only really messed up part is the level number. -0 isn't a number, and the first half of the level is usually .1 more, the second half .2 more, and the boss .3 more. It should have been level -1, and sections -0.9, -0.8, and -0.7. [[User:DanielLC|Daniel]] 22:48, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Shadowy Figure ==

Obviously, the shadowy figure is 20X6 Coach Z. You can tell because of the kind of hat he is wearing. I do not know if this is true, but it seems pretty obvious.
--[[User:The_Ugly_One|The Ugly One]]

: I noticed that too. --[[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]

um how do you go here????

:why would/how did coach Z get a castle?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:40, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Stinkoball Z==

Anyone think the similarity in Stinkoman's blast in the cutscene to the Kamehameha of Dragonball Z fame should be noted? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]
: No. Too generic. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:44, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Music==
Is it just me, or is the music on Level -0 a mix of all the other musics? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 02:33, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
*No, I thought so too. First it's L1 music, then swaps to L5 music or something. --[[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 00:10, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's exactly this: 5,2,4,6,?,6,? then repeats. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]

To me it sounds like the intro from level 1, then level 5 (up a semitone), 2, 4, both 4 and 1 played at the same time, quite a bit of 6 (with a few notes changed), then a riff that I don't recognise from anywhere else to tie it into the next repeat. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:13, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Explanation for wierd platform? ==

The wierd floating platform at the beginning of this stage has a fine white line: just like the dotted walls in various Pokemon games.--[[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 00:11, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Skips ==

I have a slow compy, but when I get to Ekersby's level it skips and I keep getting killed. This doesn't happen on a library compy, though. [[User:209.104.139.221|209.104.139.221]]

:very odd.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:42, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Help Me==
Out all the bosses I faced, Elskerby is the toughest. That tornado was the second toughest. I can't really stay alive because of all the projectiles and those sporks. Can somebody give me any tips to defeating Elskerby?-{{User:Gordon 584.sig}}
:elskerby is simple once you figure out how the timing works. just keep trying, there's a 1 up at the begining of .2 anyway to ensure having 4 goes in a row.

== Shiveryawn ==

Listen closely to stinkoman in this level when he begins to yawn, well actually before he yawns....
Some say, its the same sound when he yawns in other levels. Tried it, it was bullhoooooooooonky. =P
Shiver sound! -StrongGlad20X6 as a random contributor!

:Nope, he ''definately'' makes that sound before yawning in other levels. Try it with the cheat program - press Ctrl-0 to turn off the music to make it easier to hear. {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:58, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0

Anonomys — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:42:17 GMT

Anonomys: /* Skips */

== Cleanup ==

This page needs:

<s>
*Any POV removed.
*Sentence mechanics fixed.
*Conformed section titles.
*Similar formatting to previous walkthroughs.</s>

—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:21, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I'm ZerosVIII, I made the Walkthrough right before registering an account (I was an Anonymous user at the time I made it)
I apologize for any errors made while I made that, as well as anything I did that didn't follow the usual walkthrough format.

--ZerosVIII

:That's okay. To quote someone from Wikipedia, "You don't have to make an article perfect, just make it better." There are other people who would love to clean it up. Thank you for your walkthrough. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:36, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I've just been in there and did a major edit; I hope this helps everyone. ZerosVIII, you wrote a great walkthrough, and you've really helped out the wiki.

I'm leaving the cleanup tag in there until someone else gets a chance to look at this. If anyone sees something that I've missed, you know what to do.

--[[User:Teplotaxl|Teplotaxl]] 13:52, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Name Consensus ==

I was just wondering, should we call "NEGATORY" level 8 or level -0? Because different people are calling it different things, and that could confuse people. I'd say that -0 is probably the better of the two choices. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:15, 1 August 2005 (BST)

:I vote for -0. It's not called Level 8 anywhere except the internal code and the main page. It's called -0 everywhere in the game so that's what we should call it here. That sort of reasoning has been used often before, and I think it makes sense. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:06, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I vote '''8''' '''comment'''there is already a poll for this on the central page for the stinkoman game.'''another comment''' the manuel calls it level 8

==what the crap?==
did anyone else notice the wierd advertisement that spoke one time durig that level?it said like:"you can get a XBOX 3 and a plastation 5 for only somethin' dollars bla bla bla"and i forget the rest, and i check my bar on the bottom of my screen, no pop ups but it only happend once......any coments?

That's some spyware you've got there, I'm afraid. I remember one time I was infected: at random intervals, a disembodied voice would whisper "Carl's Jr.". --v

thanks for that info v. i have spyware remover anyway..

==WEIRDED OUT!==
I thought level -0 was TOTALLY WEIRD! And so did everybody else I believe.-{{User:Gordon 584.sig}}

:I think the levels are a bit confusing, and the fact that you can't hurt the boss's 'Tants is kind of wierd, but I think that the only really messed up part is the level number. -0 isn't a number, and the first half of the level is usually .1 more, the second half .2 more, and the boss .3 more. It should have been level -1, and sections -0.9, -0.8, and -0.7. [[User:DanielLC|Daniel]] 22:48, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Shadowy Figure ==

Obviously, the shadowy figure is 20X6 Coach Z. You can tell because of the kind of hat he is wearing. I do not know if this is true, but it seems pretty obvious.
--[[User:The_Ugly_One|The Ugly One]]

: I noticed that too. --[[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]

um how do you go here????

:why would/how did coach Z get a castle?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:40, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Stinkoball Z==

Anyone think the similarity in Stinkoman's blast in the cutscene to the Kamehameha of Dragonball Z fame should be noted? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]
: No. Too generic. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:44, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Music==
Is it just me, or is the music on Level -0 a mix of all the other musics? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 02:33, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
*No, I thought so too. First it's L1 music, then swaps to L5 music or something. --[[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 00:10, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's exactly this: 5,2,4,6,?,6,? then repeats. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]

To me it sounds like the intro from level 1, then level 5 (up a semitone), 2, 4, both 4 and 1 played at the same time, quite a bit of 6 (with a few notes changed), then a riff that I don't recognise from anywhere else to tie it into the next repeat. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:13, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Explanation for wierd platform? ==

The wierd floating platform at the beginning of this stage has a fine white line: just like the dotted walls in various Pokemon games.--[[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 00:11, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Skips ==

I have a slow compy, but when I get to Ekersby's level it skips and I keep getting killed. This doesn't happen on a library compy, though. [[User:209.104.139.221|209.104.139.221]]

:very odd.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:42, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Help Me==
Out all the bosses I faced, Elskerby is the toughest. That tornado was the second toughest. I can't really stay alive because of all the projectiles and those sporks. Can somebody give me any tips to defeating Elskerby?-{{User:Gordon 584.sig}}

== Shiveryawn ==

Listen closely to stinkoman in this level when he begins to yawn, well actually before he yawns....
Some say, its the same sound when he yawns in other levels. Tried it, it was bullhoooooooooonky. =P
Shiver sound! -StrongGlad20X6 as a random contributor!

:Nope, he ''definately'' makes that sound before yawning in other levels. Try it with the cheat program - press Ctrl-0 to turn off the music to make it easier to hear. {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:58, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0

Anonomys — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:40:54 GMT

Anonomys: /* Shadowy Figure */

== Cleanup ==

This page needs:

<s>
*Any POV removed.
*Sentence mechanics fixed.
*Conformed section titles.
*Similar formatting to previous walkthroughs.</s>

—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:21, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I'm ZerosVIII, I made the Walkthrough right before registering an account (I was an Anonymous user at the time I made it)
I apologize for any errors made while I made that, as well as anything I did that didn't follow the usual walkthrough format.

--ZerosVIII

:That's okay. To quote someone from Wikipedia, "You don't have to make an article perfect, just make it better." There are other people who would love to clean it up. Thank you for your walkthrough. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:36, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I've just been in there and did a major edit; I hope this helps everyone. ZerosVIII, you wrote a great walkthrough, and you've really helped out the wiki.

I'm leaving the cleanup tag in there until someone else gets a chance to look at this. If anyone sees something that I've missed, you know what to do.

--[[User:Teplotaxl|Teplotaxl]] 13:52, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Name Consensus ==

I was just wondering, should we call "NEGATORY" level 8 or level -0? Because different people are calling it different things, and that could confuse people. I'd say that -0 is probably the better of the two choices. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:15, 1 August 2005 (BST)

:I vote for -0. It's not called Level 8 anywhere except the internal code and the main page. It's called -0 everywhere in the game so that's what we should call it here. That sort of reasoning has been used often before, and I think it makes sense. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:06, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I vote '''8''' '''comment'''there is already a poll for this on the central page for the stinkoman game.'''another comment''' the manuel calls it level 8

==what the crap?==
did anyone else notice the wierd advertisement that spoke one time durig that level?it said like:"you can get a XBOX 3 and a plastation 5 for only somethin' dollars bla bla bla"and i forget the rest, and i check my bar on the bottom of my screen, no pop ups but it only happend once......any coments?

That's some spyware you've got there, I'm afraid. I remember one time I was infected: at random intervals, a disembodied voice would whisper "Carl's Jr.". --v

thanks for that info v. i have spyware remover anyway..

==WEIRDED OUT!==
I thought level -0 was TOTALLY WEIRD! And so did everybody else I believe.-{{User:Gordon 584.sig}}

:I think the levels are a bit confusing, and the fact that you can't hurt the boss's 'Tants is kind of wierd, but I think that the only really messed up part is the level number. -0 isn't a number, and the first half of the level is usually .1 more, the second half .2 more, and the boss .3 more. It should have been level -1, and sections -0.9, -0.8, and -0.7. [[User:DanielLC|Daniel]] 22:48, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Shadowy Figure ==

Obviously, the shadowy figure is 20X6 Coach Z. You can tell because of the kind of hat he is wearing. I do not know if this is true, but it seems pretty obvious.
--[[User:The_Ugly_One|The Ugly One]]

: I noticed that too. --[[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]

um how do you go here????

:why would/how did coach Z get a castle?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:40, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Stinkoball Z==

Anyone think the similarity in Stinkoman's blast in the cutscene to the Kamehameha of Dragonball Z fame should be noted? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]
: No. Too generic. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:44, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Music==
Is it just me, or is the music on Level -0 a mix of all the other musics? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 02:33, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
*No, I thought so too. First it's L1 music, then swaps to L5 music or something. --[[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 00:10, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's exactly this: 5,2,4,6,?,6,? then repeats. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]

To me it sounds like the intro from level 1, then level 5 (up a semitone), 2, 4, both 4 and 1 played at the same time, quite a bit of 6 (with a few notes changed), then a riff that I don't recognise from anywhere else to tie it into the next repeat. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:13, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Explanation for wierd platform? ==

The wierd floating platform at the beginning of this stage has a fine white line: just like the dotted walls in various Pokemon games.--[[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 00:11, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Skips ==

I have a slow compy, but when I get to Ekersby's level it skips and I keep getting killed. This doesn't happen on a library compy, though. [[User:209.104.139.221|209.104.139.221]]

==Help Me==
Out all the bosses I faced, Elskerby is the toughest. That tornado was the second toughest. I can't really stay alive because of all the projectiles and those sporks. Can somebody give me any tips to defeating Elskerby?-{{User:Gordon 584.sig}}

== Shiveryawn ==

Listen closely to stinkoman in this level when he begins to yawn, well actually before he yawns....
Some say, its the same sound when he yawns in other levels. Tried it, it was bullhoooooooooonky. =P
Shiver sound! -StrongGlad20X6 as a random contributor!

:Nope, he ''definately'' makes that sound before yawning in other levels. Try it with the cheat program - press Ctrl-0 to turn off the music to make it easier to hear. {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:58, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0

Anonomys — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:40:38 GMT

Anonomys: /* Shadowy Figure */

== Cleanup ==

This page needs:

<s>
*Any POV removed.
*Sentence mechanics fixed.
*Conformed section titles.
*Similar formatting to previous walkthroughs.</s>

—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:21, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I'm ZerosVIII, I made the Walkthrough right before registering an account (I was an Anonymous user at the time I made it)
I apologize for any errors made while I made that, as well as anything I did that didn't follow the usual walkthrough format.

--ZerosVIII

:That's okay. To quote someone from Wikipedia, "You don't have to make an article perfect, just make it better." There are other people who would love to clean it up. Thank you for your walkthrough. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:36, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I've just been in there and did a major edit; I hope this helps everyone. ZerosVIII, you wrote a great walkthrough, and you've really helped out the wiki.

I'm leaving the cleanup tag in there until someone else gets a chance to look at this. If anyone sees something that I've missed, you know what to do.

--[[User:Teplotaxl|Teplotaxl]] 13:52, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Name Consensus ==

I was just wondering, should we call "NEGATORY" level 8 or level -0? Because different people are calling it different things, and that could confuse people. I'd say that -0 is probably the better of the two choices. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:15, 1 August 2005 (BST)

:I vote for -0. It's not called Level 8 anywhere except the internal code and the main page. It's called -0 everywhere in the game so that's what we should call it here. That sort of reasoning has been used often before, and I think it makes sense. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:06, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I vote '''8''' '''comment'''there is already a poll for this on the central page for the stinkoman game.'''another comment''' the manuel calls it level 8

==what the crap?==
did anyone else notice the wierd advertisement that spoke one time durig that level?it said like:"you can get a XBOX 3 and a plastation 5 for only somethin' dollars bla bla bla"and i forget the rest, and i check my bar on the bottom of my screen, no pop ups but it only happend once......any coments?

That's some spyware you've got there, I'm afraid. I remember one time I was infected: at random intervals, a disembodied voice would whisper "Carl's Jr.". --v

thanks for that info v. i have spyware remover anyway..

==WEIRDED OUT!==
I thought level -0 was TOTALLY WEIRD! And so did everybody else I believe.-{{User:Gordon 584.sig}}

:I think the levels are a bit confusing, and the fact that you can't hurt the boss's 'Tants is kind of wierd, but I think that the only really messed up part is the level number. -0 isn't a number, and the first half of the level is usually .1 more, the second half .2 more, and the boss .3 more. It should have been level -1, and sections -0.9, -0.8, and -0.7. [[User:DanielLC|Daniel]] 22:48, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Shadowy Figure ==

Obviously, the shadowy figure is 20X6 Coach Z. You can tell because of the kind of hat he is wearing. I do not know if this is true, but it seems pretty obvious.
--[[User:The_Ugly_One|The Ugly One]]

: I noticed that too. --[[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]

um how do you go here????

:why would/how did coach Z get a castle?

==Stinkoball Z==

Anyone think the similarity in Stinkoman's blast in the cutscene to the Kamehameha of Dragonball Z fame should be noted? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]
: No. Too generic. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:44, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Music==
Is it just me, or is the music on Level -0 a mix of all the other musics? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 02:33, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
*No, I thought so too. First it's L1 music, then swaps to L5 music or something. --[[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 00:10, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's exactly this: 5,2,4,6,?,6,? then repeats. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]

To me it sounds like the intro from level 1, then level 5 (up a semitone), 2, 4, both 4 and 1 played at the same time, quite a bit of 6 (with a few notes changed), then a riff that I don't recognise from anywhere else to tie it into the next repeat. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:13, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Explanation for wierd platform? ==

The wierd floating platform at the beginning of this stage has a fine white line: just like the dotted walls in various Pokemon games.--[[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 00:11, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Skips ==

I have a slow compy, but when I get to Ekersby's level it skips and I keep getting killed. This doesn't happen on a library compy, though. [[User:209.104.139.221|209.104.139.221]]

==Help Me==
Out all the bosses I faced, Elskerby is the toughest. That tornado was the second toughest. I can't really stay alive because of all the projectiles and those sporks. Can somebody give me any tips to defeating Elskerby?-{{User:Gordon 584.sig}}

== Shiveryawn ==

Listen closely to stinkoman in this level when he begins to yawn, well actually before he yawns....
Some say, its the same sound when he yawns in other levels. Tried it, it was bullhoooooooooonky. =P
Shiver sound! -StrongGlad20X6 as a random contributor!

:Nope, he ''definately'' makes that sound before yawning in other levels. Try it with the cheat program - press Ctrl-0 to turn off the music to make it easier to hear. {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:58, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0

Anonomys — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:38:24 GMT

Anonomys: /* Name Consensus */

== Cleanup ==

This page needs:

<s>
*Any POV removed.
*Sentence mechanics fixed.
*Conformed section titles.
*Similar formatting to previous walkthroughs.</s>

—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:21, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I'm ZerosVIII, I made the Walkthrough right before registering an account (I was an Anonymous user at the time I made it)
I apologize for any errors made while I made that, as well as anything I did that didn't follow the usual walkthrough format.

--ZerosVIII

:That's okay. To quote someone from Wikipedia, "You don't have to make an article perfect, just make it better." There are other people who would love to clean it up. Thank you for your walkthrough. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:36, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I've just been in there and did a major edit; I hope this helps everyone. ZerosVIII, you wrote a great walkthrough, and you've really helped out the wiki.

I'm leaving the cleanup tag in there until someone else gets a chance to look at this. If anyone sees something that I've missed, you know what to do.

--[[User:Teplotaxl|Teplotaxl]] 13:52, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Name Consensus ==

I was just wondering, should we call "NEGATORY" level 8 or level -0? Because different people are calling it different things, and that could confuse people. I'd say that -0 is probably the better of the two choices. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:15, 1 August 2005 (BST)

:I vote for -0. It's not called Level 8 anywhere except the internal code and the main page. It's called -0 everywhere in the game so that's what we should call it here. That sort of reasoning has been used often before, and I think it makes sense. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:06, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I vote '''8''' '''comment'''there is already a poll for this on the central page for the stinkoman game.'''another comment''' the manuel calls it level 8

==what the crap?==
did anyone else notice the wierd advertisement that spoke one time durig that level?it said like:"you can get a XBOX 3 and a plastation 5 for only somethin' dollars bla bla bla"and i forget the rest, and i check my bar on the bottom of my screen, no pop ups but it only happend once......any coments?

That's some spyware you've got there, I'm afraid. I remember one time I was infected: at random intervals, a disembodied voice would whisper "Carl's Jr.". --v

thanks for that info v. i have spyware remover anyway..

==WEIRDED OUT!==
I thought level -0 was TOTALLY WEIRD! And so did everybody else I believe.-{{User:Gordon 584.sig}}

:I think the levels are a bit confusing, and the fact that you can't hurt the boss's 'Tants is kind of wierd, but I think that the only really messed up part is the level number. -0 isn't a number, and the first half of the level is usually .1 more, the second half .2 more, and the boss .3 more. It should have been level -1, and sections -0.9, -0.8, and -0.7. [[User:DanielLC|Daniel]] 22:48, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Shadowy Figure ==

Obviously, the shadowy figure is 20X6 Coach Z. You can tell because of the kind of hat he is wearing. I do not know if this is true, but it seems pretty obvious.
--[[User:The_Ugly_One|The Ugly One]]

: I noticed that too. --[[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]

um how do you go here????

==Stinkoball Z==

Anyone think the similarity in Stinkoman's blast in the cutscene to the Kamehameha of Dragonball Z fame should be noted? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]]
: No. Too generic. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:44, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Music==
Is it just me, or is the music on Level -0 a mix of all the other musics? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 02:33, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
*No, I thought so too. First it's L1 music, then swaps to L5 music or something. --[[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 00:10, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's exactly this: 5,2,4,6,?,6,? then repeats. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]

To me it sounds like the intro from level 1, then level 5 (up a semitone), 2, 4, both 4 and 1 played at the same time, quite a bit of 6 (with a few notes changed), then a riff that I don't recognise from anywhere else to tie it into the next repeat. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:13, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Explanation for wierd platform? ==

The wierd floating platform at the beginning of this stage has a fine white line: just like the dotted walls in various Pokemon games.--[[User:silverwing99|silverwing99]] 00:11, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Skips ==

I have a slow compy, but when I get to Ekersby's level it skips and I keep getting killed. This doesn't happen on a library compy, though. [[User:209.104.139.221|209.104.139.221]]

==Help Me==
Out all the bosses I faced, Elskerby is the toughest. That tornado was the second toughest. I can't really stay alive because of all the projectiles and those sporks. Can somebody give me any tips to defeating Elskerby?-{{User:Gordon 584.sig}}

== Shiveryawn ==

Listen closely to stinkoman in this level when he begins to yawn, well actually before he yawns....
Some say, its the same sound when he yawns in other levels. Tried it, it was bullhoooooooooonky. =P
Shiver sound! -StrongGlad20X6 as a random contributor!

:Nope, he ''definately'' makes that sound before yawning in other levels. Try it with the cheat program - press Ctrl-0 to turn off the music to make it easier to hear. {{User:phlip/sig}} 23:58, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Kick The Cheat (game)

Anonomys — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:10:24 GMT

Anonomys: fun

How do you get The Cheat to fly through the air without scoring anything?
:Click anywhere on the screen and select the button using tab, then press enter.
::You can also do it if you tap the mouse very lightly, if you time it correctly.

Is there a list anywhere in what toons Strong Bad actually kicks The Cheat? For some reason, I can't think of many when he actually kicks The Cheat.
:[[little animal]], for one.
:He threatens to kick The Cheat a couple times at the end of [[caper]].
:He tells Homestar to give The Cheat (hiding under the box)a "swift kick in The Cheat" in [[replacement]]
::He also mentions "Kickin' Cheats 'till the day I die" in [[replacement]]

(see discussion at [[Talk:lady...ing]])

== Strong Bad's pants ==

Could this be more proof that Strong Bad's pants are actually blue/purple and not black with purple shadows? - [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]

== Over the wall ==

Is it possible to kick The Cheat over the wall?

== fun ==

:soo... addictive.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:10, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6

Anonomys — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:52:12 GMT

Anonomys: /* Stinkoman Labels */

{{Template:Talk:Stinkoman_20X6}}

== XML ==

Did anyone notice that you can download and edit the XML files to create new levels? This could be good for the Fanstuff Wiki, if anyone gets it working. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

- Care to share where they are? :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:05, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, I think you have to edit the flash file to get them to work offline first (which is not too hard). They are at:

[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.3.3.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/stinkogame.swf]

Those are the ones I found in my temp folder (even though I didn't get to those levels). If you go to ''View'' -> ''Page Source'' in Firefox, you can kinda figure out how it works (maybe). --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
''Edit: Darn, the links don't work. They are in some other folder. Once I figure out the folder name, the game will work offline. And they don't show up on Google yet.''

Ooh - found it - They're in another folder called "levelData."
[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

-As a note for other people wanting to edit, you need to get the 5 level files, the main swf, and the object library: [http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/objectLibrary.swf]. (You can see some game graphics if you view that file)

It's a pretty simple almost-XML format, I'm making a level editor for it now.
[[User:Travis Wells|Travis Wells]]

:Woah. New enemy in that library. If anything confirms another set of levels coming up, that would. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:07, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Hey, I was just about to make a level editor for it, but it probably won't be very good. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

:Hey, if you decompile the flash file for the game you'll see there is already a level editor in there on the script for sprite 761. Unfortunately I don't know anything about flash, so I don't know what to do with that, or how to get to it, but someone must.

:I'm working on an editor written in VB using the MSXML library. --[[User:ackicantthinkofaname|breadtangle]] 18:30, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
I know all about Flash, but I don't have a decompiler -NonHacka

'''NOTE:''' With the release of Stinkoman 20X6 v6, those links have become outdated. The new ones are [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|here]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:48, 4 August 2005 (BST) '''EDIT:''' Moved all links to my user page.

Arghh...I Made the installation program but i need a site to upload it onto.
Can someone tell me one? --- [[User:Pertmywert|[[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]]]
:[mailto:phlipping@yahoo.com Email] it to me and I'll host it for you, if you'd like. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 08:02, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
::http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install.exe --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:28, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

::: Thanks philip for hosting it but remember i made it[[User:Pertmywert|Joel]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]

:::: Pertmywert has sent me the new version: http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install_v3.exe - I'll keep the v2 one up incase anyone's interested. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 23:44, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

I already have a great working editor for this game, a new version has just been released. Check it out here: http://www.geocities.com/joesarcade/stinkoman.zip or here: http://joesarcade.hopto.org:8093/stinkoman.zip

Can someone please make a level editor compatible with MacOS?--[[User:Darklinkskywalker|Darklinkskywalker]] 20:38, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

*OH WHAT THE CRAP!!!! Do need Flash or something for this? Not Flash Player, but the animator thingie? Every time I click on a link it doesnt work!!! PLEASE HELP!!!

:Which links are you trying to click on, the ones in this section, the ones on the [[Stinkoman 20X6]] page, or the ones on my user page? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:50, 4 August 2005 (BST)

== Closed STUFF ==

These Fun Facts were on STUFF and declined. If you want to discuss these facts, please make sure your votes are seperate from the original ones.

===Stlunko===
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.
*'''Decline.''' If this isn't a TTATOT, I don't know what is. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', you're not trying hard enough - I'm sure you could think of lots more bosses that involve fists somehow if you tried... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I usually like these kind of Fun Facts, but it sounds like you're just not trying here. Pick one. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Well, if '''I''' had to pick one, I'd definitely pick the first one; it's what the original one stated, and mentioning only that wouldn't be such a TTATOT. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:23, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
===Rose Blake===
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

*'''Double Decliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiined!''' Seriously, can we stop stretching Fun Facts as far as they can possibly be stretched? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Slightly like? Oh, man! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline for the pudgy! Decline for the pudgy!''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Gimme a D-cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
===Black Spots===
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you look at the bottom of Stinkoman's white area you can see little black lines so this 'fact' is false [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
===Tampo===
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Sleckhund.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:24, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Er...''' The meaning of Tempo might be he is going faster.
*'''Comment''' Or it could also be a reference to tampons... Um, actually, no, forget that I said that.

Dude, Whomever thought of ths had no idea of an alternative. Maybe it's a bad translation. Or he isn't very mean and also doesn't taste very good.

===Brody===
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Panzerschrecken'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:26, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:09, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''-and Ogog, the size is more-or-less in proportion as well.

===Engrish===
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second the Decrine.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:28, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
===Stone Fist===
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I think it is pretty much already stated. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
**And now that more levels are actually coming out, saying more levels will come out is completely useless. [[user: lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' Now that a new level using the stone fist has been released, this is utterly useless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:06, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
===Control Scheme===
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' As a video game lover, I've gotta say that I am pretty used to using the right-most button to jump and the left-most button to fire. Just water this fact down a bit. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Declorne''' Uh... so? [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''Declonomys''' I see no problems with the control screen.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

===Stoves===
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
****Actually, its very likely since plastic, and many fabrics dont decompose at all. The magnetic tape in the casette might have decomposed but that wouldnt have mattered because Stinkoman ate the casette, not played it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:40, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But doesnt a Capital X mean the greek number for 10, and a miniscule x stand for a variable? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:48, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****A capital X signifies a ''Roman'' numeral 10. And variables are ''usually'' lowercase, but if you don't have a character set with upper- and lowercase letters (like most old video games), then you just have to make do with what you got. (See also [[Rabbit Algebra]], which seems to mix the two.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Does anyone else feel that 20X6 is simply a brilliant joke? Don't try to place it into a timeline, just leave it silly, as it is. --J
*'''Decline.''' Does the author of this FF purport to have insider knowledge of TBC's ''fictitious'' world? [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:10, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''I'll quote myself, damnit! just kidding, quote me all you want. But, to reiterate, What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power.--[[User:geoguy91|geoguy91]] 01:06, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Ladder difference ===
{{stufffact|The ladders in level 5.2 look slightly different from those of level 5.1.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:34, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)|19:08, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)|revised and accepted|4|2|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Different Colors ===
{{stufffact|The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)|00:56, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|5|0|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Tiny eye difference ===
{{stufffact|The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)|01:00, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|revised and accepted|5|1|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Liekand's magic powers ===
{{stufffact|Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.}}
{{stuffverdict|12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)|02:15, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|5|0|Stinkoman 20X6}}

== Weird glitch. ==

My brother's a big fan of this game. One day, long ago, we we're checking out the Continue Menu, and ALL THE LEVELS WERE THERE!!!!
My brother noticed the strange thing that happened, and swore that he didn't make all this happen. He didn't have a clue of what was going on. Then I thought, ''This is obviously a rare glitch. I didn't do anything.'' So now when I see "stinkoman level <#>!" on the
main page, I go the game and click "CONTINUE" and I check it out. Pretty cool, huh? I'm just wondering if anyone else expierenced this glitch. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 20:14, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:That's not a glitch. Everyone can access all the levels, at all times. The only time when levels were hidden was when there were only three. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:19, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Well, also, you can't access stage #.2 until you beat #.1. But you can access all of the #.1s at any time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:20, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::Right, forgot about that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:22, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh yeah, and when a new level is released, the previously released one's .2 is now accessible. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]
I see. That's probably also why my grandmother's computer has it too. Oh welll. List of levels my brother hasn't beaten yet:

Levels:

*5.2 (It's pretty hard, my brother can't get though the uptants in a row)

*7.2 (My brother has beaten this level at grandmother's, but when we came back it was gone.)

*8.1 (For some reason, it came out today. My brother can't play it because he's still asleep. That, and the computer can't access the game.)

*8.2 (Ditto.)

Bosses:

*Tampo (Even if it's the first level boss. it was supposed to be easy.)
*Nebulon (If you can't beat the .2 level, you can't see/beat the boss.)
*The Liekand (He has seen it, though.)
*An Ice Machine (Ditto with The Leikand.)
*Unnamed Boss (For the reason he can't play Level 8.)

G'bye. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:17, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

*Well, TBC are assuming you've beat all the levels so far, and doesn't want good players to get frustrated at playing the levels all over again each time stinkoman updates. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 00:56, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Let me get ths straight. You were able to gain access to all of the levels? How did you do it? Were you able to get to level 10? -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 07:51, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
: This is 100% normal. You can reach stage 1 of every level no matter what, at least, since level 4 was released. Of course he wasn't able to get to level 10. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:10, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== XML Page ==

Should we make a page for the stinkoman XML files? --{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 07:44, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:[[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|I already did.]] And it includes the externalSwf files as well. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 12:45, 2 August 2005 (BST)

::I mean a proper page and not a user page like Stinkoman/XML --{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 22:19, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Fall and die?==

I'm playing a web version (from i-am-bored.com), and all that happens is that Stinkoman falls down the screen and dies, no ground, no bosses, WTF is going on?

Don't even acronym swears, and just use the one of Homestar runner.com those web ones are unrealiable. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:My guess is that they only saved stinkogame.swf without the levelData or externalSwf files. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 02:48, 3 August 2005 (BST)

::how can a normal person (like me) save everything onto their (my) computer?--[[User:StrongBad110990|StrongBad110990]] 18:19, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Your best bet is to download [[User:phlip|phlip]]'s Stinkoman 20X6 Cheat Program, then run nocheater.html. You can find it [[Forum:3336|here]]. It's a lot easier than grabbing a list of links from [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|somewhere]], and saving them into the appropriate folders. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:53, 9 August 2005 (BST)

:Look for Venusy's Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman, then download all those files. And another thing; don't use WTF. Use WTC. It makes you sound more like a true Homestar Runner fan.

: I had this happen in the middle of the game while playing from homestarrunner.com . I was at the level 1 boss (the giant brain). I had 2 lives left. I died. When it started over, Stinkoman fell and kept falling. And the game was over. Must've been some kind of glitch I guess.--DrPepperMD 9/24/05.
: I belive I have an answer to why this happens (not 100% sure though), I first saw/played the game on a new(er) computer and it workd fine, but when a tryed to play it on an older computer (that had an out of date flash version) there was no ground. prehaps the version of flash that was the current version when this came out supported the ground that prevented you from falling. just a though.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Strange Storyline==
Well, the storyline's kinda getting dull since Pan-pan was kidnapped. Almost all the levels 4-10 is/will be about rescuing pan-pan (and starting level 7, 1-up too. ) TBC, this is an awesome game, but the story... --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 14:06, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stinkoman is emulating 8-bit platformers. "Rescue Pan-Pan" IS the story. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:01, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Thank you Stinkoman! But our panda is in another castle! ;) --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 17:50, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Besides, as you may have noticed, even Stinkoman admits the plot is utterly predictable. Although, even though the PLOT might be predictable, chances are, if -0 or 3 are any indication, the level scenarios won't be. :) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:dude, this is an old-style platforming game, in other words, as long as the gameply's good, nobody cares about the plot.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 19:43, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Another possible Negatory level reference?==
I'm not adding this to the item page, but if someone can verify what I'm remembering and thinks it's useful, then add it to the "Real World References" for the Level -0 (Negatory) world. I seem to remember that in the original NES Metroid, with just an autofiring controller (ah, NES Advantage, we had good times, yes?), you could get wedged in a door, then collapse/expand rapidly and climb up through the wall. If you did this on one particular door, you would go up into a very strange and frankly hazardous area that was all messed up (sounding a lot like that lost Sonic level). It was easy to get stuck, and I don't think any of the doors worked properly. Anyone remember what I'm talking about? If so, it's perhaps another possible reference like that Sonic world, with the advantage that no Game Genie or anything was required to get to it. -- DLR, Aug 3 2005, 1:00pm

:The reference to Hidden Palace is dubious at best. Hidden Palace is nothing like Negatory World. The Game Genie version is such that the entire thing looks like nothing but static (since the HPZ graphics were removed from the final cartridge) and the Sonic 2 Beta version is not glitched, just unfinished. Do you have any links for the Metroid reference? I'm not familiar with that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:32, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Here's one reference: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Metroid#Metroid.27s_Hidden_Worlds Wikipedia: Metroid Talk]. And a [http://www.classicgaming.com/mdb/m1/met-map.txt technical explainer] on Metroid's map structure and why it's a glitch, not a true "hidden area". It's interesting stuff, but admittedly probably not a direct inspiration for the Negatory world. -- DLR, [[User:216.41.87.210|216.41.87.210]] 23:48, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I do think it may be a reference to Hidden Palace, because there are [http://www.sws2b.com/zones/hidden_palace_final screenshots] of it. They do look similar to -0. In both versions, the level is incomplete, but in the beta ROM which I have, the graphics are not messed and it is easier to play. Level 8 more than probably has something to do with this Zone. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 14:53, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I've played HPZ, too, and don't see the resemblance. Neither version is particularly glitchy; one has missing graphics and one has perfect graphics but is ''unfinished''. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:52, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I still like to think that Level -0 is a reference to the 'Glitch City' bug in Pokémon Red/Blue versions. The randomly generated graphics are similar, as is the ability to defy the game's physics (example: Stinkoman can stand on the air at the beginning of the lever, and you could Surf through solid objects in the Glitch City bug). Also, there are many points in Glitch City where your character could become trapped in a place that seems solid, just like the opening cut-scene where Stinkoman was stuck in the wall. TBC have made Pokémon references before (Cheatachu, anyone?), and the glitchy nature of the first Pokémon games are widely known. Now, I wouldn't go so far as to compare Ekersby with Missingno., but the parallels between Level -0 and Glitch City are very similar.
But, with all that in mind, Super Mario Bros.'s Minus World was still the first thing to come to mind. Glitch City occurred to me just as soon as I started playing the level. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

BUT, in the Sonic 2 Beta ROM, act 2 of HPZ puts you stuck inside a wall. That MUST have ''something'' to do with it. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 18:01, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stuck inside a wall comes from Minus World. You know, Minus World, Negatory Level... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:19, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

But you're not '''stuck''' in it, you slide through it until you come out the other side. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:02, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

And Stinkoman doesn't slide through the wall to get out, he Stinkoblasts (is that a good name?) it. Wonder what that might be a reference to? --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 02:07, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== This might need archival ==

Am I the only one who thinks the talk page on here is getting a LITTLE too big for its britches? I mean, cripes, look at the length of the TOC. That's pretty ridiculous; one entire page of scrolling down before you actually reach text. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 01:36, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I vote for moving everything that hasn't been changed since the start of July or so to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive]] or somesuch... I can do it now if noone else wants to. {{User:phlip/sig}} 04:39, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::I concur. It really is too long. Go right ahead and archive it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
If this does get archived (<s>and I'm not necessarily saying it should</s>), you shouldn't move the threads based on date. You should move the ones that should have been posted on the forum. Anything related to actually maintaining the page (for example, closed STUFF), should stay. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:56, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Okay, so after a second viewing under the tutelage of Pom Pom's keen eyes, I see that most of this page is idle chatter. I'm all for archiving it. But, like I said before, anything wiki-related should stay, no matter the date. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:02, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

There we go... Everthing here has been edited recently or is (IMO) still relevant... I might have been a bit overzealous, feel free to move anything back if need be. (I got edit conflicted with your message, IDC, I'll take another look soon, I just want to get this edit in) {{User:phlip/sig}} 05:20, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I've made the archives cleaner. Please feel free to add templates and keep moving more pages. I am done for now and since it's 4:20 I need to go to bed! Please also read what I posted on the [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#Messy_Page|Messy Page]] section for those who are concerned about that. Good night! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:23, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Levls to co me ==

I've noticed that there is aglitched up "more levels to come" sign at teh end of level -0. Plesae picture! --anony

I've noticed thatyou are "not logged in" so y dont u log in. Plesae log in! --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:48, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ha! Good one! Anyway, COME is spelled C OME on that screen, not CO ME. And the music that usually plays on the normal, non-glitched version stutters frequently, or so it seems, because I seek-bar'd my way to that screen, and it stuttered like that. It's all like, (mocking music) "bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow", etc. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 01:49, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Level 9 ==

What do you think level nine will be? My guess is an underwater bored.

It could also be underground cave. I hope level 10 is something like "''The Doomsday Zone''" from "''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''" --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:51, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I've got a few good ones. One is "The castle" or "Spelunking" or "Candyland" or even "The desert," or "The swamp". [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

Or maybe it'll be a "flying through the jungle level". Turbolence sounds like the kinda name for a level like that. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 10:03, 29 Aug 2005 (CST)

==The Flow==

I've noticed that owhen you start level 1.2 (maybe the others work as well) on the TRY LEVEL! screen, it says something about YOU GOTTA GO WITH THE FLOW or something like that. I can't read it cause it flashes too fast. Can anyone get a snapshot of it? — {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:41, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Two Questions==

I just got a seek bar, and I was looking around in the Flash file. Here are some questions:
#Is the music meant to skip like that at the "MORE LEVELS TO COME" (in this case, "MORE LEVLS TO C OME") screen, or is it because I was messing around?
#<del>Where in the Flash file is Undefined.Undefined?</del> Found it.
--[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 01:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's meant to sound like that - since it comes just after the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0|glitch level]]. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:52, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Oh. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 02:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Astromund trash can lid? ==

I don't really know, this is a real stretch. I remember when I was a kid I used to play this MS-DOS game callled: "Math Rescue". It was about numbers being stolen by these aleins called gruzzles, but you could take hits without dying if you had trash can lids, used as shields. Does that have relation to the Stinkomanuel? [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

== Undefined.Undefined? ==

Where the heck is that level? I can't find it!

Do you have a seek bar? If you don't, you'll need to get one to be able to view that level. Why do you need to? It's just a grey hole. Oh and by the way... Where the heck do I get a seek bar? I can't find one! I've tried downloading it before but it just says "No scripatable flash on this page." --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:43, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Bookmark the button, or for you <shaking-green-text>Internet Explorer</shaking-green-text> users, add it to your favorites. Then go around to the end of the flash file, and you'll find Undefined.Undefined. And it's not a grey hole, it's a black hole. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 20:50, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I added it to my favorites (bookmarks on firefox, but that's on my other 'puter still won't work) but nothing happens! How do I get it to work? --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:46, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

You have IE? Cuz then you have to add the Seek Bar for IE to your favorites. And you can't use it on the swf.

I have IE 5, Netscape 7, and Firefox 1.0.6 but on fire fox, I add it to my personal toolbar, and when I'm on the page, I click it, and it replies, once again, with "No scriptable flash on this page". And it says IE for WINDOWS, not Mac, so I can't get it to work. I try and try but nothing happens.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 00:06, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I just moved the seek bar to the same position as the s in characters and all the music started playing, what looked like part of the object library was on the screen, and even part of the flash for ekersby sprites morphing. I dunno what the seek bar has against the game and the games menu, but it's so weird. [[User:Seek Bar|Seek Bar]]

I have a seek bar, but how do I use it? I click it on my personal toolbar bookmarks when I go to the stinkogame.html on homestarrunner.com, but I can't get it to work. Why is that? --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 23:39, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Am I supposed to drag the seek bar from bookmarks to the web page? hurry up and answer plz, I'm impatient. I have it on Netscape, Mozilla, and IE.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 00:09, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Hmm... why don't you test it out to see if that's what you're supposed to do... In other words, yes, you drag it. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 01:19, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Still didn't work. Are they Mac compatible? {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== New from Brother Chaps. Inc.!! ==

NEW STINKOMAN LEVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put it up on the main page so every one knows, please. --Anony

THAT'S KINDA OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We always put that kinda stuff on the [[Template:whatsnew|whatsnew template]] {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:00, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Shots ==

The firey shots now go strait, no longer going down while going forward.
: Not entirely true; they do drop a little, but they also go full-screen instead of just a short distance like they used to. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:53, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== How many hits? ==

How many freakin' hits does it take to kill Harvax?

:13 or 14. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 23:08, 5 September 2005 (BST)

Thank you. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

== Version 7.0 - 7.1 ==

Did anybody notice when the notice in the bottom right corner changed from 7.0 to 7.1? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 09:27, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I did. Maybe it was a smalll update, like a bug fix or a stinkomanual update. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I believe 7.1 was a bug fixing version. From memory, it corrected level -0.4 from showing up after defeating Ekersby. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:09, 7 September 2005 (BST)

==I can't find the 9.3 boss!==

Whenever i reach the flag, nothing happens and I just keep flying through an infinite level! Anybody have any idea whats going on/what to do?

I've had this problem, but only on the cheat version. I have absolutely NO idea of what's going on. I had a theory but forgot it. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:26, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== ...The new punching?! ==

Who else here doesn't like the new punching?? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]
:heh? what do you mean by "new punching"?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:55, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

== Messy Page ==
The whole fun fact section of this page is a mess. I'm thinking we need to delete some facts, maybe move some pages, stuff like that. Like individual boss fun facts chould go in their own section in the enemies page. And I think a page should be set up of a list of all the "Try Level" "Game Over" and "More Levels To Come" scenes. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

:It is a bit messy. I'll try sweeping the floor.
:...
:But seriously, yea. Too much info. We need to have a [[garage sale]] or something. I'll maybe try to do a bit of work on the page. Probably a few more Fun Facts subsections are needed, as well as maybe an 'updates section', for the little things they change every time they update. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:07, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::The fun facts should be split into levels wherever possible, and a bunch of other changes. I was kinda waiting for the game to be finished before proposing any radical alterations. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Would it be okay to remove all of the "when the game was first made, it was like this. it was later changed" type messages? Shouldn't the guide just talk about how the game is now?--DrPepperMD

::We have precedent for keeping records of when things change, but that's mostly because the toons and such don't change often - this game changes regularly... Perhaps split them off to yet another page? I'm willing to do that now if there's no objections. {{User:phlip/sig}} 03:56, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I had another look - I don't think there are enough "in a previous version..." facts to warrant its own page, but I still don't think they should be removed. Perhaps group them all together under a "changes" heading or something... {{User:phlip/sig}} 11:10, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:'''Hi!''' I have two points I'd like to talk about (sorry, I'm not really mentioning anything new).
:*This TALK page is indeed still messy. I think we should archive ''again'' everything except the Closed (STUFF), XML and couple of most recent (like level 9) conversations. Oh! and this section of course. I'd do it, but um, I hate to ask... how do you archive things again?
::*The Main page has its archives broken in pieces of 20, and has its own template and everything, I think this talk page merits that kind of organization.
:*Um yeah the page is kinda bloated. I was thinking making actual ''level'' pages for most stuff (we already have the walkthroughs, which the level pages can point to) like [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. I think it's doable at least for the early stages, and since the game is presumably nearly complete. That or Real World references should have its own page. So what should it be, individual level pages or Real World references? :D
::*Organizing the page now, will save us the headache of updating it later, when it's even more bloated. Adding to a new infrastructure isn't necessarily that much harder.
: Thank you guys for your time!
: --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:50, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
: I have organized the talk [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#This_might_need_archival|archives]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:24, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I definitely like the separate Real World References page! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:38, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I have reorganized some of the sections, is it clean enough to remove the cleanup tag? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:24, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::It is not even close to being clean. You have been doing a '''great''' jorb on this, but it is still to big for its own good. We should probably take out the updates and break the FFs into smaller sections. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Some good examples of shortening is that we need to make either A: A Big Fun fact page or B: Seperate articles for all the facts and references.

== ??!!Stinkomanuel!!?? ==

It-It's at level 5 again!!! What the crap just happened?!? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]

== REALLY SLOW ==
This game runs REEEAAALLY slow on my computer! Does anyone else have that problem? Even at school on P4 computers it seems slow. What kind of computers do you need to play this? [[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 19:43, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff bad? ==

What's wrong with the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman 20X6 - CUSTOM LEVELS|fanstuff]] [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION|links]]? [[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] says it's "wiki policy," but I don't see anything against fanstuff in the [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]]. {{User:Trogga/sig}}
:I agree with you. It's "External Links", not "H*R Links." But I can see why some wouldn't like it. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

::I'm not sure exactly where I read it, but you can take it to the administrators if you want. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 18:49, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure you read it in an old discussion of the page - where an admin said that no fanstuff related ''pages'' and ''fun facts'' should be made. (i.e. a guide to custom levels; a factoid on how you can do something with a cheat version) - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
::If I remember correctly it was a sysop edit summary just a few days ago, but if you really want to add it again, I'll stop reverting. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 19:00, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Here's examples I found. These may be what you are talking about: [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive#Add an article on custom levels.3F|here]] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&diff=138917&oldid=138711 here]. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 19:02, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

We don't link to fanstuff because (1) as a knowledge base, we should only list official sources as external links, (2) we don't have any real info on fanstuff nor do we have any control of its content, and (3) if we allowed person A's fanstuff on this page, then we'd have to allow the fanstuff of persons B, C, D, E, and everyone else on all the other pages, and that is not the point of this wiki, nor should keeping up with and policing things like that be one of our chores. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:46, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

You're Insane, man! I liked those links! Besides, Trogga and Joshua are right! Those links were useful, Fanstuff or not! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:The cheat version may be bad, but the custom levels are public fanstuff from multiple users, and I think they should stay. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

Any glitches that can only be accessed with the cheat version or in custom levels should be treated like out-of-the-frame glitches in the toons - they were not intended to be seen by the public, so there's no reason to allow for them. That is, if there's something that happens because something is not specifically catered for (eg 1-Up kicking a Stafulter) it should not be mentioned here (though it could be mentioned on the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION#Quirks|fanstuff entry's page]]). If there is something intentional that can only be accessed this way (like the cabbage enemy was) then it should be mentioned, as a remark or as appropriate on another Stinkoman 20X6 page. Linking to the custom levels here would in my mind be the same as linking to [[HRFWiki:Other Character Email|Other Character Email]] or suchlike from the [[Strong Bad Email]] page, and would easily set a precedent for every fanstuff (or even just each category of fanstuff would be bad enough) being linked to from the H*R thing it was inspired by. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:09, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

But what's the point of (fanstuff) interwiki links if we're not going to use them? {{User:Trogga/sig}}

Yeah, if we're not supposed to link to fanstuff, then, ''Oh! Why don't we'' '''blow the fanstuff link off the face of that side template thingy''' if we're "not supposed to link to fanstuff"! See? it's ridiculous!! Take ''that'', It's dot com! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:There's a difference between "linking to the fanstuff site from this site" to "linking to a fanstuff page ''from an article'' on this site" - the ''articles'' are supposed to make a ''knowledge base'' containing ''facts'' about ''H*R''. However the site as a whole contains the knowledge base, the forum, the fanstuff, the chat channel, etc... so links between them ''outside the articles themselves'' are still good. {{User:phlip/sig}}

:Take it easy, FaceCrap. It's not an extremely good idea to talk like that. — {{User:Lapper/sig}}

:Yeah, I guess not. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

So,''anyway'', if no one's said anything against the Fanstuff links for days, why hasn't somebody put them back? I would, but if it were a good idea to, somebody probably would've already. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:I am against putting the fanstuff links there. People should just visit fanstuff themselves. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 14:05, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Well, you ''can'' just go to the external links part of the side template, true, but it might be easier to have direct links on the bottom of the page. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:So what, we have to be actively posting here all the time saying "I still don't want the fanstuff links there" after the discussion seems settled? OK, to make it explicit: I think they should not be there, and I will continue to think they should not be there until such a time as I specifically post saying otherwise. Until then, take it as read that I am posting here regularly saying they should not be there. {{User:phlip/sig}} 16:02, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== 9.1 intro ==

Can anyone remember what game this is parodying? Where it shows the castle and then pans across to the character standing on a rock.

I remember this from a NES game I used to own but cant remember what :(

:Some Megaman games have it... - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 11:40, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::There's also the some what popular Sega game Rocket Night Adventures, and it looks alomost just like that, except he looks at the kingdom then a giant pig head appears and laughs. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

== Level 8 ==

I know people have commented on the whole level 7,-0,9 thing. I think I has the solution. After Level 10, TBC are likely to go back and do a level 8 as somewhat of a lost level. I'm dissapointed there was no swimming level, so this might be where it comes in ( Level 10 defenitely won't be such a level. I'll bet anyone my entire life savings [being $8.42] that 10 will be a Bowser's Keep type deal)---[[User:RatherAnnoying]]
: Level -0 ''is'' level 8, just not called that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:06, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:5 bucks says level ten isn't a bowsers keep type deal.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 19:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

== Cutscene Before 9.3 ==

So, doesn't anyone think that noting that there is no cutscene before 9.3 is too obvious? There's no cutscene before An Ice Machine either, and nobody cared about that! Who put that fact up, anyway? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 00:34, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I agree. We should either put both facts up, or none of 'em. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:13, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Easter Eggs==

:I know it wouldn't do much, but to help clean up, couldnt we move the easter eggs onto the levels in which they're on? For instance, for the "snot bubble" easter egg, couldnt we just keep that on the "Oh! The moon!" page? --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:11, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I don't think we need the snot bubble one there. We already recorded it on [[Stinkoman 20X6 Playable Characters]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Stinkoman Labels ==

Personally, I think there should be some kind of consistency among the level titles. If we are to change the level 8's to level -0's, we should do that throughout the entire page and not just to one of the titles. I changed it back because, having two dashes -0-9 doesnt' exactly look pretty, and it would look even worse if we had (-0)-9, as I had seen once before (if my memory serves me right). Please accept my apologies but I will change it back to the way I had it for the aformentioned reason. If it is deemed better to have all level 8 labels turned into -0 label, then it should be done across the board. Thanks.--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:36, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:My vote is too change all '''-0''' tags into '''8'''s. I find the -0 title confusing when being used among other levels. This is probably especially true for newbies. 8 is just much simpler. And it's not entirely inaccurate either - Level 8 ''is'' called Level 8 in the Stinkomanual. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: But the ''game itself'' calls it Level -0. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:47, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: To me that says that the game creators (that would be TBC) both call it level 8 and level -0. However, my first issue still stands: ''consistency''. Having several titles call it level 8 and only one or two (or even half) level -0 is inconsistent and looks bad. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:50, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::: Do we have titles that call it level 8? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: We go by -0. I don't understand why people care about it. We go by the official site, and the site calls it -0. Oh, and I think the walkthrough says -0/8. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 17:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: To answer my own question, we did. I came up with a solution that not only fixed that, but also fixes the "double hyphen" problem. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: What the walkthrough says doesn't matter - it can be changed. Basically, the official site calls it -0 '''AND''' 8. So we could go either way without "official site relevance" problems. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: Yes, this is true, but one is in the manual (which has lots of other intentional mistakes) and the other is in the game itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::I was gonna post this till you guys beat me to it (twice! I had 2 edit conflicts):
::::::''Pretty much every main title that refers to it under Trivia, remarks (before the change) and inside references. There is a snippet in the flash [[Stinkoman_20X6#General|information]] that calls it episode 8 (this i beleive is original TBC wording) and further below 8/-0, and ... and that's it!
::::: and I like your solution! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:58, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the manual itself is kind of inconsistant. I agree with Jay. And furthermore, I think -0 sums up the level better too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::: Working heavily on the Stinkoman 20X6 levels, I must say -0 is a great inconvience. When we can choose between convient and inconvient, why do we pick the harder one? It seems that TBC used -0 on the level selection screen and "TRY LEVEL" screen and 8 everywhere else. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:02, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Define "everywhere else." All I see was the manual, which was already mentioned, and the "What's New" box from the day before, where they didn't want to give away the new level. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:09, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Not to mention ''" It said "V6.0 EPISODES 1-8" until September 5, 2005, when the ninth level was added."'' Although level and episode are two slightly different things. Yes, I know I'm being slightly repetitive. I do like the new wording a lot though! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Ok, I think that we can live with some itty bitty inconviences in our articles. -0 makes much more sense than 8, and is called -0 on the site. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:59, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::I don't exactly see what you're talking about with -0 making more sense. -0 is much more inconvenient than 8, and we've already established that TBC call it both. I vote '''8'''. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:13, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::I vote '''8'''.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 19:52, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

== The shadow ==

:anyone thinking about who the end boss is going to be?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:59, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6

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Anonomys: /* Level 8 */

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== XML ==

Did anyone notice that you can download and edit the XML files to create new levels? This could be good for the Fanstuff Wiki, if anyone gets it working. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

- Care to share where they are? :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:05, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, I think you have to edit the flash file to get them to work offline first (which is not too hard). They are at:

[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.3.3.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/stinkogame.swf]

Those are the ones I found in my temp folder (even though I didn't get to those levels). If you go to ''View'' -> ''Page Source'' in Firefox, you can kinda figure out how it works (maybe). --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
''Edit: Darn, the links don't work. They are in some other folder. Once I figure out the folder name, the game will work offline. And they don't show up on Google yet.''

Ooh - found it - They're in another folder called "levelData."
[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

-As a note for other people wanting to edit, you need to get the 5 level files, the main swf, and the object library: [http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/objectLibrary.swf]. (You can see some game graphics if you view that file)

It's a pretty simple almost-XML format, I'm making a level editor for it now.
[[User:Travis Wells|Travis Wells]]

:Woah. New enemy in that library. If anything confirms another set of levels coming up, that would. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:07, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Hey, I was just about to make a level editor for it, but it probably won't be very good. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

:Hey, if you decompile the flash file for the game you'll see there is already a level editor in there on the script for sprite 761. Unfortunately I don't know anything about flash, so I don't know what to do with that, or how to get to it, but someone must.

:I'm working on an editor written in VB using the MSXML library. --[[User:ackicantthinkofaname|breadtangle]] 18:30, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
I know all about Flash, but I don't have a decompiler -NonHacka

'''NOTE:''' With the release of Stinkoman 20X6 v6, those links have become outdated. The new ones are [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|here]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:48, 4 August 2005 (BST) '''EDIT:''' Moved all links to my user page.

Arghh...I Made the installation program but i need a site to upload it onto.
Can someone tell me one? --- [[User:Pertmywert|[[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]]]
:[mailto:phlipping@yahoo.com Email] it to me and I'll host it for you, if you'd like. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 08:02, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
::http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install.exe --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:28, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

::: Thanks philip for hosting it but remember i made it[[User:Pertmywert|Joel]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]

:::: Pertmywert has sent me the new version: http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install_v3.exe - I'll keep the v2 one up incase anyone's interested. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 23:44, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

I already have a great working editor for this game, a new version has just been released. Check it out here: http://www.geocities.com/joesarcade/stinkoman.zip or here: http://joesarcade.hopto.org:8093/stinkoman.zip

Can someone please make a level editor compatible with MacOS?--[[User:Darklinkskywalker|Darklinkskywalker]] 20:38, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

*OH WHAT THE CRAP!!!! Do need Flash or something for this? Not Flash Player, but the animator thingie? Every time I click on a link it doesnt work!!! PLEASE HELP!!!

:Which links are you trying to click on, the ones in this section, the ones on the [[Stinkoman 20X6]] page, or the ones on my user page? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:50, 4 August 2005 (BST)

== Closed STUFF ==

These Fun Facts were on STUFF and declined. If you want to discuss these facts, please make sure your votes are seperate from the original ones.

===Stlunko===
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.
*'''Decline.''' If this isn't a TTATOT, I don't know what is. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', you're not trying hard enough - I'm sure you could think of lots more bosses that involve fists somehow if you tried... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I usually like these kind of Fun Facts, but it sounds like you're just not trying here. Pick one. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Well, if '''I''' had to pick one, I'd definitely pick the first one; it's what the original one stated, and mentioning only that wouldn't be such a TTATOT. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:23, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
===Rose Blake===
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

*'''Double Decliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiined!''' Seriously, can we stop stretching Fun Facts as far as they can possibly be stretched? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Slightly like? Oh, man! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline for the pudgy! Decline for the pudgy!''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Gimme a D-cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
===Black Spots===
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you look at the bottom of Stinkoman's white area you can see little black lines so this 'fact' is false [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
===Tampo===
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Sleckhund.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:24, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Er...''' The meaning of Tempo might be he is going faster.
*'''Comment''' Or it could also be a reference to tampons... Um, actually, no, forget that I said that.

Dude, Whomever thought of ths had no idea of an alternative. Maybe it's a bad translation. Or he isn't very mean and also doesn't taste very good.

===Brody===
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Panzerschrecken'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:26, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:09, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''-and Ogog, the size is more-or-less in proportion as well.

===Engrish===
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second the Decrine.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:28, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
===Stone Fist===
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I think it is pretty much already stated. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
**And now that more levels are actually coming out, saying more levels will come out is completely useless. [[user: lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' Now that a new level using the stone fist has been released, this is utterly useless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:06, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
===Control Scheme===
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' As a video game lover, I've gotta say that I am pretty used to using the right-most button to jump and the left-most button to fire. Just water this fact down a bit. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Declorne''' Uh... so? [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''Declonomys''' I see no problems with the control screen.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

===Stoves===
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
****Actually, its very likely since plastic, and many fabrics dont decompose at all. The magnetic tape in the casette might have decomposed but that wouldnt have mattered because Stinkoman ate the casette, not played it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:40, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But doesnt a Capital X mean the greek number for 10, and a miniscule x stand for a variable? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:48, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****A capital X signifies a ''Roman'' numeral 10. And variables are ''usually'' lowercase, but if you don't have a character set with upper- and lowercase letters (like most old video games), then you just have to make do with what you got. (See also [[Rabbit Algebra]], which seems to mix the two.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Does anyone else feel that 20X6 is simply a brilliant joke? Don't try to place it into a timeline, just leave it silly, as it is. --J
*'''Decline.''' Does the author of this FF purport to have insider knowledge of TBC's ''fictitious'' world? [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:10, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''I'll quote myself, damnit! just kidding, quote me all you want. But, to reiterate, What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power.--[[User:geoguy91|geoguy91]] 01:06, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Ladder difference ===
{{stufffact|The ladders in level 5.2 look slightly different from those of level 5.1.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:34, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)|19:08, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)|revised and accepted|4|2|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Different Colors ===
{{stufffact|The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)|00:56, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|5|0|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Tiny eye difference ===
{{stufffact|The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)|01:00, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|revised and accepted|5|1|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Liekand's magic powers ===
{{stufffact|Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.}}
{{stuffverdict|12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)|02:15, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|5|0|Stinkoman 20X6}}

== Weird glitch. ==

My brother's a big fan of this game. One day, long ago, we we're checking out the Continue Menu, and ALL THE LEVELS WERE THERE!!!!
My brother noticed the strange thing that happened, and swore that he didn't make all this happen. He didn't have a clue of what was going on. Then I thought, ''This is obviously a rare glitch. I didn't do anything.'' So now when I see "stinkoman level <#>!" on the
main page, I go the game and click "CONTINUE" and I check it out. Pretty cool, huh? I'm just wondering if anyone else expierenced this glitch. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 20:14, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:That's not a glitch. Everyone can access all the levels, at all times. The only time when levels were hidden was when there were only three. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:19, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Well, also, you can't access stage #.2 until you beat #.1. But you can access all of the #.1s at any time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:20, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::Right, forgot about that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:22, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh yeah, and when a new level is released, the previously released one's .2 is now accessible. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]
I see. That's probably also why my grandmother's computer has it too. Oh welll. List of levels my brother hasn't beaten yet:

Levels:

*5.2 (It's pretty hard, my brother can't get though the uptants in a row)

*7.2 (My brother has beaten this level at grandmother's, but when we came back it was gone.)

*8.1 (For some reason, it came out today. My brother can't play it because he's still asleep. That, and the computer can't access the game.)

*8.2 (Ditto.)

Bosses:

*Tampo (Even if it's the first level boss. it was supposed to be easy.)
*Nebulon (If you can't beat the .2 level, you can't see/beat the boss.)
*The Liekand (He has seen it, though.)
*An Ice Machine (Ditto with The Leikand.)
*Unnamed Boss (For the reason he can't play Level 8.)

G'bye. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:17, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

*Well, TBC are assuming you've beat all the levels so far, and doesn't want good players to get frustrated at playing the levels all over again each time stinkoman updates. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 00:56, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Let me get ths straight. You were able to gain access to all of the levels? How did you do it? Were you able to get to level 10? -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 07:51, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
: This is 100% normal. You can reach stage 1 of every level no matter what, at least, since level 4 was released. Of course he wasn't able to get to level 10. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:10, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== XML Page ==

Should we make a page for the stinkoman XML files? --{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 07:44, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:[[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|I already did.]] And it includes the externalSwf files as well. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 12:45, 2 August 2005 (BST)

::I mean a proper page and not a user page like Stinkoman/XML --{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 22:19, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Fall and die?==

I'm playing a web version (from i-am-bored.com), and all that happens is that Stinkoman falls down the screen and dies, no ground, no bosses, WTF is going on?

Don't even acronym swears, and just use the one of Homestar runner.com those web ones are unrealiable. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:My guess is that they only saved stinkogame.swf without the levelData or externalSwf files. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 02:48, 3 August 2005 (BST)

::how can a normal person (like me) save everything onto their (my) computer?--[[User:StrongBad110990|StrongBad110990]] 18:19, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Your best bet is to download [[User:phlip|phlip]]'s Stinkoman 20X6 Cheat Program, then run nocheater.html. You can find it [[Forum:3336|here]]. It's a lot easier than grabbing a list of links from [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|somewhere]], and saving them into the appropriate folders. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:53, 9 August 2005 (BST)

:Look for Venusy's Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman, then download all those files. And another thing; don't use WTF. Use WTC. It makes you sound more like a true Homestar Runner fan.

: I had this happen in the middle of the game while playing from homestarrunner.com . I was at the level 1 boss (the giant brain). I had 2 lives left. I died. When it started over, Stinkoman fell and kept falling. And the game was over. Must've been some kind of glitch I guess.--DrPepperMD 9/24/05.
: I belive I have an answer to why this happens (not 100% sure though), I first saw/played the game on a new(er) computer and it workd fine, but when a tryed to play it on an older computer (that had an out of date flash version) there was no ground. prehaps the version of flash that was the current version when this came out supported the ground that prevented you from falling. just a though.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Strange Storyline==
Well, the storyline's kinda getting dull since Pan-pan was kidnapped. Almost all the levels 4-10 is/will be about rescuing pan-pan (and starting level 7, 1-up too. ) TBC, this is an awesome game, but the story... --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 14:06, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stinkoman is emulating 8-bit platformers. "Rescue Pan-Pan" IS the story. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:01, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Thank you Stinkoman! But our panda is in another castle! ;) --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 17:50, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Besides, as you may have noticed, even Stinkoman admits the plot is utterly predictable. Although, even though the PLOT might be predictable, chances are, if -0 or 3 are any indication, the level scenarios won't be. :) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:dude, this is an old-style platforming game, in other words, as long as the gameply's good, nobody cares about the plot.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 19:43, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Another possible Negatory level reference?==
I'm not adding this to the item page, but if someone can verify what I'm remembering and thinks it's useful, then add it to the "Real World References" for the Level -0 (Negatory) world. I seem to remember that in the original NES Metroid, with just an autofiring controller (ah, NES Advantage, we had good times, yes?), you could get wedged in a door, then collapse/expand rapidly and climb up through the wall. If you did this on one particular door, you would go up into a very strange and frankly hazardous area that was all messed up (sounding a lot like that lost Sonic level). It was easy to get stuck, and I don't think any of the doors worked properly. Anyone remember what I'm talking about? If so, it's perhaps another possible reference like that Sonic world, with the advantage that no Game Genie or anything was required to get to it. -- DLR, Aug 3 2005, 1:00pm

:The reference to Hidden Palace is dubious at best. Hidden Palace is nothing like Negatory World. The Game Genie version is such that the entire thing looks like nothing but static (since the HPZ graphics were removed from the final cartridge) and the Sonic 2 Beta version is not glitched, just unfinished. Do you have any links for the Metroid reference? I'm not familiar with that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:32, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Here's one reference: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Metroid#Metroid.27s_Hidden_Worlds Wikipedia: Metroid Talk]. And a [http://www.classicgaming.com/mdb/m1/met-map.txt technical explainer] on Metroid's map structure and why it's a glitch, not a true "hidden area". It's interesting stuff, but admittedly probably not a direct inspiration for the Negatory world. -- DLR, [[User:216.41.87.210|216.41.87.210]] 23:48, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I do think it may be a reference to Hidden Palace, because there are [http://www.sws2b.com/zones/hidden_palace_final screenshots] of it. They do look similar to -0. In both versions, the level is incomplete, but in the beta ROM which I have, the graphics are not messed and it is easier to play. Level 8 more than probably has something to do with this Zone. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 14:53, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I've played HPZ, too, and don't see the resemblance. Neither version is particularly glitchy; one has missing graphics and one has perfect graphics but is ''unfinished''. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:52, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I still like to think that Level -0 is a reference to the 'Glitch City' bug in Pokémon Red/Blue versions. The randomly generated graphics are similar, as is the ability to defy the game's physics (example: Stinkoman can stand on the air at the beginning of the lever, and you could Surf through solid objects in the Glitch City bug). Also, there are many points in Glitch City where your character could become trapped in a place that seems solid, just like the opening cut-scene where Stinkoman was stuck in the wall. TBC have made Pokémon references before (Cheatachu, anyone?), and the glitchy nature of the first Pokémon games are widely known. Now, I wouldn't go so far as to compare Ekersby with Missingno., but the parallels between Level -0 and Glitch City are very similar.
But, with all that in mind, Super Mario Bros.'s Minus World was still the first thing to come to mind. Glitch City occurred to me just as soon as I started playing the level. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

BUT, in the Sonic 2 Beta ROM, act 2 of HPZ puts you stuck inside a wall. That MUST have ''something'' to do with it. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 18:01, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stuck inside a wall comes from Minus World. You know, Minus World, Negatory Level... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:19, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

But you're not '''stuck''' in it, you slide through it until you come out the other side. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:02, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

And Stinkoman doesn't slide through the wall to get out, he Stinkoblasts (is that a good name?) it. Wonder what that might be a reference to? --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 02:07, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== This might need archival ==

Am I the only one who thinks the talk page on here is getting a LITTLE too big for its britches? I mean, cripes, look at the length of the TOC. That's pretty ridiculous; one entire page of scrolling down before you actually reach text. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 01:36, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I vote for moving everything that hasn't been changed since the start of July or so to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive]] or somesuch... I can do it now if noone else wants to. {{User:phlip/sig}} 04:39, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::I concur. It really is too long. Go right ahead and archive it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
If this does get archived (<s>and I'm not necessarily saying it should</s>), you shouldn't move the threads based on date. You should move the ones that should have been posted on the forum. Anything related to actually maintaining the page (for example, closed STUFF), should stay. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:56, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Okay, so after a second viewing under the tutelage of Pom Pom's keen eyes, I see that most of this page is idle chatter. I'm all for archiving it. But, like I said before, anything wiki-related should stay, no matter the date. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:02, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

There we go... Everthing here has been edited recently or is (IMO) still relevant... I might have been a bit overzealous, feel free to move anything back if need be. (I got edit conflicted with your message, IDC, I'll take another look soon, I just want to get this edit in) {{User:phlip/sig}} 05:20, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I've made the archives cleaner. Please feel free to add templates and keep moving more pages. I am done for now and since it's 4:20 I need to go to bed! Please also read what I posted on the [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#Messy_Page|Messy Page]] section for those who are concerned about that. Good night! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:23, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Levls to co me ==

I've noticed that there is aglitched up "more levels to come" sign at teh end of level -0. Plesae picture! --anony

I've noticed thatyou are "not logged in" so y dont u log in. Plesae log in! --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:48, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ha! Good one! Anyway, COME is spelled C OME on that screen, not CO ME. And the music that usually plays on the normal, non-glitched version stutters frequently, or so it seems, because I seek-bar'd my way to that screen, and it stuttered like that. It's all like, (mocking music) "bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow", etc. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 01:49, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Level 9 ==

What do you think level nine will be? My guess is an underwater bored.

It could also be underground cave. I hope level 10 is something like "''The Doomsday Zone''" from "''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''" --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:51, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I've got a few good ones. One is "The castle" or "Spelunking" or "Candyland" or even "The desert," or "The swamp". [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

Or maybe it'll be a "flying through the jungle level". Turbolence sounds like the kinda name for a level like that. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 10:03, 29 Aug 2005 (CST)

==The Flow==

I've noticed that owhen you start level 1.2 (maybe the others work as well) on the TRY LEVEL! screen, it says something about YOU GOTTA GO WITH THE FLOW or something like that. I can't read it cause it flashes too fast. Can anyone get a snapshot of it? — {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:41, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Two Questions==

I just got a seek bar, and I was looking around in the Flash file. Here are some questions:
#Is the music meant to skip like that at the "MORE LEVELS TO COME" (in this case, "MORE LEVLS TO C OME") screen, or is it because I was messing around?
#<del>Where in the Flash file is Undefined.Undefined?</del> Found it.
--[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 01:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's meant to sound like that - since it comes just after the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0|glitch level]]. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:52, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Oh. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 02:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Astromund trash can lid? ==

I don't really know, this is a real stretch. I remember when I was a kid I used to play this MS-DOS game callled: "Math Rescue". It was about numbers being stolen by these aleins called gruzzles, but you could take hits without dying if you had trash can lids, used as shields. Does that have relation to the Stinkomanuel? [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

== Undefined.Undefined? ==

Where the heck is that level? I can't find it!

Do you have a seek bar? If you don't, you'll need to get one to be able to view that level. Why do you need to? It's just a grey hole. Oh and by the way... Where the heck do I get a seek bar? I can't find one! I've tried downloading it before but it just says "No scripatable flash on this page." --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:43, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Bookmark the button, or for you <shaking-green-text>Internet Explorer</shaking-green-text> users, add it to your favorites. Then go around to the end of the flash file, and you'll find Undefined.Undefined. And it's not a grey hole, it's a black hole. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 20:50, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I added it to my favorites (bookmarks on firefox, but that's on my other 'puter still won't work) but nothing happens! How do I get it to work? --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:46, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

You have IE? Cuz then you have to add the Seek Bar for IE to your favorites. And you can't use it on the swf.

I have IE 5, Netscape 7, and Firefox 1.0.6 but on fire fox, I add it to my personal toolbar, and when I'm on the page, I click it, and it replies, once again, with "No scriptable flash on this page". And it says IE for WINDOWS, not Mac, so I can't get it to work. I try and try but nothing happens.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 00:06, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I just moved the seek bar to the same position as the s in characters and all the music started playing, what looked like part of the object library was on the screen, and even part of the flash for ekersby sprites morphing. I dunno what the seek bar has against the game and the games menu, but it's so weird. [[User:Seek Bar|Seek Bar]]

I have a seek bar, but how do I use it? I click it on my personal toolbar bookmarks when I go to the stinkogame.html on homestarrunner.com, but I can't get it to work. Why is that? --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 23:39, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Am I supposed to drag the seek bar from bookmarks to the web page? hurry up and answer plz, I'm impatient. I have it on Netscape, Mozilla, and IE.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 00:09, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Hmm... why don't you test it out to see if that's what you're supposed to do... In other words, yes, you drag it. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 01:19, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Still didn't work. Are they Mac compatible? {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== New from Brother Chaps. Inc.!! ==

NEW STINKOMAN LEVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put it up on the main page so every one knows, please. --Anony

THAT'S KINDA OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We always put that kinda stuff on the [[Template:whatsnew|whatsnew template]] {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:00, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Shots ==

The firey shots now go strait, no longer going down while going forward.
: Not entirely true; they do drop a little, but they also go full-screen instead of just a short distance like they used to. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:53, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== How many hits? ==

How many freakin' hits does it take to kill Harvax?

:13 or 14. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 23:08, 5 September 2005 (BST)

Thank you. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

== Version 7.0 - 7.1 ==

Did anybody notice when the notice in the bottom right corner changed from 7.0 to 7.1? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 09:27, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I did. Maybe it was a smalll update, like a bug fix or a stinkomanual update. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I believe 7.1 was a bug fixing version. From memory, it corrected level -0.4 from showing up after defeating Ekersby. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:09, 7 September 2005 (BST)

==I can't find the 9.3 boss!==

Whenever i reach the flag, nothing happens and I just keep flying through an infinite level! Anybody have any idea whats going on/what to do?

I've had this problem, but only on the cheat version. I have absolutely NO idea of what's going on. I had a theory but forgot it. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:26, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== ...The new punching?! ==

Who else here doesn't like the new punching?? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]
:heh? what do you mean by "new punching"?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:55, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

== Messy Page ==
The whole fun fact section of this page is a mess. I'm thinking we need to delete some facts, maybe move some pages, stuff like that. Like individual boss fun facts chould go in their own section in the enemies page. And I think a page should be set up of a list of all the "Try Level" "Game Over" and "More Levels To Come" scenes. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

:It is a bit messy. I'll try sweeping the floor.
:...
:But seriously, yea. Too much info. We need to have a [[garage sale]] or something. I'll maybe try to do a bit of work on the page. Probably a few more Fun Facts subsections are needed, as well as maybe an 'updates section', for the little things they change every time they update. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:07, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::The fun facts should be split into levels wherever possible, and a bunch of other changes. I was kinda waiting for the game to be finished before proposing any radical alterations. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Would it be okay to remove all of the "when the game was first made, it was like this. it was later changed" type messages? Shouldn't the guide just talk about how the game is now?--DrPepperMD

::We have precedent for keeping records of when things change, but that's mostly because the toons and such don't change often - this game changes regularly... Perhaps split them off to yet another page? I'm willing to do that now if there's no objections. {{User:phlip/sig}} 03:56, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I had another look - I don't think there are enough "in a previous version..." facts to warrant its own page, but I still don't think they should be removed. Perhaps group them all together under a "changes" heading or something... {{User:phlip/sig}} 11:10, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:'''Hi!''' I have two points I'd like to talk about (sorry, I'm not really mentioning anything new).
:*This TALK page is indeed still messy. I think we should archive ''again'' everything except the Closed (STUFF), XML and couple of most recent (like level 9) conversations. Oh! and this section of course. I'd do it, but um, I hate to ask... how do you archive things again?
::*The Main page has its archives broken in pieces of 20, and has its own template and everything, I think this talk page merits that kind of organization.
:*Um yeah the page is kinda bloated. I was thinking making actual ''level'' pages for most stuff (we already have the walkthroughs, which the level pages can point to) like [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. I think it's doable at least for the early stages, and since the game is presumably nearly complete. That or Real World references should have its own page. So what should it be, individual level pages or Real World references? :D
::*Organizing the page now, will save us the headache of updating it later, when it's even more bloated. Adding to a new infrastructure isn't necessarily that much harder.
: Thank you guys for your time!
: --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:50, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
: I have organized the talk [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#This_might_need_archival|archives]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:24, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I definitely like the separate Real World References page! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:38, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I have reorganized some of the sections, is it clean enough to remove the cleanup tag? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:24, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::It is not even close to being clean. You have been doing a '''great''' jorb on this, but it is still to big for its own good. We should probably take out the updates and break the FFs into smaller sections. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Some good examples of shortening is that we need to make either A: A Big Fun fact page or B: Seperate articles for all the facts and references.

== ??!!Stinkomanuel!!?? ==

It-It's at level 5 again!!! What the crap just happened?!? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]

== REALLY SLOW ==
This game runs REEEAAALLY slow on my computer! Does anyone else have that problem? Even at school on P4 computers it seems slow. What kind of computers do you need to play this? [[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 19:43, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff bad? ==

What's wrong with the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman 20X6 - CUSTOM LEVELS|fanstuff]] [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION|links]]? [[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] says it's "wiki policy," but I don't see anything against fanstuff in the [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]]. {{User:Trogga/sig}}
:I agree with you. It's "External Links", not "H*R Links." But I can see why some wouldn't like it. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

::I'm not sure exactly where I read it, but you can take it to the administrators if you want. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 18:49, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure you read it in an old discussion of the page - where an admin said that no fanstuff related ''pages'' and ''fun facts'' should be made. (i.e. a guide to custom levels; a factoid on how you can do something with a cheat version) - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
::If I remember correctly it was a sysop edit summary just a few days ago, but if you really want to add it again, I'll stop reverting. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 19:00, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Here's examples I found. These may be what you are talking about: [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive#Add an article on custom levels.3F|here]] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&diff=138917&oldid=138711 here]. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 19:02, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

We don't link to fanstuff because (1) as a knowledge base, we should only list official sources as external links, (2) we don't have any real info on fanstuff nor do we have any control of its content, and (3) if we allowed person A's fanstuff on this page, then we'd have to allow the fanstuff of persons B, C, D, E, and everyone else on all the other pages, and that is not the point of this wiki, nor should keeping up with and policing things like that be one of our chores. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:46, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

You're Insane, man! I liked those links! Besides, Trogga and Joshua are right! Those links were useful, Fanstuff or not! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:The cheat version may be bad, but the custom levels are public fanstuff from multiple users, and I think they should stay. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

Any glitches that can only be accessed with the cheat version or in custom levels should be treated like out-of-the-frame glitches in the toons - they were not intended to be seen by the public, so there's no reason to allow for them. That is, if there's something that happens because something is not specifically catered for (eg 1-Up kicking a Stafulter) it should not be mentioned here (though it could be mentioned on the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION#Quirks|fanstuff entry's page]]). If there is something intentional that can only be accessed this way (like the cabbage enemy was) then it should be mentioned, as a remark or as appropriate on another Stinkoman 20X6 page. Linking to the custom levels here would in my mind be the same as linking to [[HRFWiki:Other Character Email|Other Character Email]] or suchlike from the [[Strong Bad Email]] page, and would easily set a precedent for every fanstuff (or even just each category of fanstuff would be bad enough) being linked to from the H*R thing it was inspired by. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:09, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

But what's the point of (fanstuff) interwiki links if we're not going to use them? {{User:Trogga/sig}}

Yeah, if we're not supposed to link to fanstuff, then, ''Oh! Why don't we'' '''blow the fanstuff link off the face of that side template thingy''' if we're "not supposed to link to fanstuff"! See? it's ridiculous!! Take ''that'', It's dot com! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:There's a difference between "linking to the fanstuff site from this site" to "linking to a fanstuff page ''from an article'' on this site" - the ''articles'' are supposed to make a ''knowledge base'' containing ''facts'' about ''H*R''. However the site as a whole contains the knowledge base, the forum, the fanstuff, the chat channel, etc... so links between them ''outside the articles themselves'' are still good. {{User:phlip/sig}}

:Take it easy, FaceCrap. It's not an extremely good idea to talk like that. — {{User:Lapper/sig}}

:Yeah, I guess not. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

So,''anyway'', if no one's said anything against the Fanstuff links for days, why hasn't somebody put them back? I would, but if it were a good idea to, somebody probably would've already. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:I am against putting the fanstuff links there. People should just visit fanstuff themselves. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 14:05, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Well, you ''can'' just go to the external links part of the side template, true, but it might be easier to have direct links on the bottom of the page. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:So what, we have to be actively posting here all the time saying "I still don't want the fanstuff links there" after the discussion seems settled? OK, to make it explicit: I think they should not be there, and I will continue to think they should not be there until such a time as I specifically post saying otherwise. Until then, take it as read that I am posting here regularly saying they should not be there. {{User:phlip/sig}} 16:02, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== 9.1 intro ==

Can anyone remember what game this is parodying? Where it shows the castle and then pans across to the character standing on a rock.

I remember this from a NES game I used to own but cant remember what :(

:Some Megaman games have it... - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 11:40, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::There's also the some what popular Sega game Rocket Night Adventures, and it looks alomost just like that, except he looks at the kingdom then a giant pig head appears and laughs. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

== Level 8 ==

I know people have commented on the whole level 7,-0,9 thing. I think I has the solution. After Level 10, TBC are likely to go back and do a level 8 as somewhat of a lost level. I'm dissapointed there was no swimming level, so this might be where it comes in ( Level 10 defenitely won't be such a level. I'll bet anyone my entire life savings [being $8.42] that 10 will be a Bowser's Keep type deal)---[[User:RatherAnnoying]]
: Level -0 ''is'' level 8, just not called that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:06, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:5 bucks says level ten isn't a bowsers keep type deal.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 19:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

== Cutscene Before 9.3 ==

So, doesn't anyone think that noting that there is no cutscene before 9.3 is too obvious? There's no cutscene before An Ice Machine either, and nobody cared about that! Who put that fact up, anyway? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 00:34, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I agree. We should either put both facts up, or none of 'em. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:13, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Easter Eggs==

:I know it wouldn't do much, but to help clean up, couldnt we move the easter eggs onto the levels in which they're on? For instance, for the "snot bubble" easter egg, couldnt we just keep that on the "Oh! The moon!" page? --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:11, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I don't think we need the snot bubble one there. We already recorded it on [[Stinkoman 20X6 Playable Characters]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Stinkoman Labels ==

Personally, I think there should be some kind of consistency among the level titles. If we are to change the level 8's to level -0's, we should do that throughout the entire page and not just to one of the titles. I changed it back because, having two dashes -0-9 doesnt' exactly look pretty, and it would look even worse if we had (-0)-9, as I had seen once before (if my memory serves me right). Please accept my apologies but I will change it back to the way I had it for the aformentioned reason. If it is deemed better to have all level 8 labels turned into -0 label, then it should be done across the board. Thanks.--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:36, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:My vote is too change all '''-0''' tags into '''8'''s. I find the -0 title confusing when being used among other levels. This is probably especially true for newbies. 8 is just much simpler. And it's not entirely inaccurate either - Level 8 ''is'' called Level 8 in the Stinkomanual. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: But the ''game itself'' calls it Level -0. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:47, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: To me that says that the game creators (that would be TBC) both call it level 8 and level -0. However, my first issue still stands: ''consistency''. Having several titles call it level 8 and only one or two (or even half) level -0 is inconsistent and looks bad. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:50, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::: Do we have titles that call it level 8? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: We go by -0. I don't understand why people care about it. We go by the official site, and the site calls it -0. Oh, and I think the walkthrough says -0/8. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 17:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: To answer my own question, we did. I came up with a solution that not only fixed that, but also fixes the "double hyphen" problem. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: What the walkthrough says doesn't matter - it can be changed. Basically, the official site calls it -0 '''AND''' 8. So we could go either way without "official site relevance" problems. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: Yes, this is true, but one is in the manual (which has lots of other intentional mistakes) and the other is in the game itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::I was gonna post this till you guys beat me to it (twice! I had 2 edit conflicts):
::::::''Pretty much every main title that refers to it under Trivia, remarks (before the change) and inside references. There is a snippet in the flash [[Stinkoman_20X6#General|information]] that calls it episode 8 (this i beleive is original TBC wording) and further below 8/-0, and ... and that's it!
::::: and I like your solution! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:58, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the manual itself is kind of inconsistant. I agree with Jay. And furthermore, I think -0 sums up the level better too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::: Working heavily on the Stinkoman 20X6 levels, I must say -0 is a great inconvience. When we can choose between convient and inconvient, why do we pick the harder one? It seems that TBC used -0 on the level selection screen and "TRY LEVEL" screen and 8 everywhere else. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:02, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Define "everywhere else." All I see was the manual, which was already mentioned, and the "What's New" box from the day before, where they didn't want to give away the new level. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:09, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Not to mention ''" It said "V6.0 EPISODES 1-8" until September 5, 2005, when the ninth level was added."'' Although level and episode are two slightly different things. Yes, I know I'm being slightly repetitive. I do like the new wording a lot though! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Ok, I think that we can live with some itty bitty inconviences in our articles. -0 makes much more sense than 8, and is called -0 on the site. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:59, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::I don't exactly see what you're talking about with -0 making more sense. -0 is much more inconvenient than 8, and we've already established that TBC call it both. I vote '''8'''. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:13, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

== The shadow ==

:anyone thinking about who the end boss is going to be?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:59, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

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== XML ==

Did anyone notice that you can download and edit the XML files to create new levels? This could be good for the Fanstuff Wiki, if anyone gets it working. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

- Care to share where they are? :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:05, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, I think you have to edit the flash file to get them to work offline first (which is not too hard). They are at:

[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.3.3.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/stinkogame.swf]

Those are the ones I found in my temp folder (even though I didn't get to those levels). If you go to ''View'' -> ''Page Source'' in Firefox, you can kinda figure out how it works (maybe). --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
''Edit: Darn, the links don't work. They are in some other folder. Once I figure out the folder name, the game will work offline. And they don't show up on Google yet.''

Ooh - found it - They're in another folder called "levelData."
[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

-As a note for other people wanting to edit, you need to get the 5 level files, the main swf, and the object library: [http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/objectLibrary.swf]. (You can see some game graphics if you view that file)

It's a pretty simple almost-XML format, I'm making a level editor for it now.
[[User:Travis Wells|Travis Wells]]

:Woah. New enemy in that library. If anything confirms another set of levels coming up, that would. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:07, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Hey, I was just about to make a level editor for it, but it probably won't be very good. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

:Hey, if you decompile the flash file for the game you'll see there is already a level editor in there on the script for sprite 761. Unfortunately I don't know anything about flash, so I don't know what to do with that, or how to get to it, but someone must.

:I'm working on an editor written in VB using the MSXML library. --[[User:ackicantthinkofaname|breadtangle]] 18:30, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
I know all about Flash, but I don't have a decompiler -NonHacka

'''NOTE:''' With the release of Stinkoman 20X6 v6, those links have become outdated. The new ones are [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|here]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:48, 4 August 2005 (BST) '''EDIT:''' Moved all links to my user page.

Arghh...I Made the installation program but i need a site to upload it onto.
Can someone tell me one? --- [[User:Pertmywert|[[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]]]
:[mailto:phlipping@yahoo.com Email] it to me and I'll host it for you, if you'd like. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 08:02, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
::http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install.exe --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:28, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

::: Thanks philip for hosting it but remember i made it[[User:Pertmywert|Joel]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]

:::: Pertmywert has sent me the new version: http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install_v3.exe - I'll keep the v2 one up incase anyone's interested. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 23:44, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

I already have a great working editor for this game, a new version has just been released. Check it out here: http://www.geocities.com/joesarcade/stinkoman.zip or here: http://joesarcade.hopto.org:8093/stinkoman.zip

Can someone please make a level editor compatible with MacOS?--[[User:Darklinkskywalker|Darklinkskywalker]] 20:38, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

*OH WHAT THE CRAP!!!! Do need Flash or something for this? Not Flash Player, but the animator thingie? Every time I click on a link it doesnt work!!! PLEASE HELP!!!

:Which links are you trying to click on, the ones in this section, the ones on the [[Stinkoman 20X6]] page, or the ones on my user page? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:50, 4 August 2005 (BST)

== Closed STUFF ==

These Fun Facts were on STUFF and declined. If you want to discuss these facts, please make sure your votes are seperate from the original ones.

===Stlunko===
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.
*'''Decline.''' If this isn't a TTATOT, I don't know what is. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', you're not trying hard enough - I'm sure you could think of lots more bosses that involve fists somehow if you tried... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I usually like these kind of Fun Facts, but it sounds like you're just not trying here. Pick one. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Well, if '''I''' had to pick one, I'd definitely pick the first one; it's what the original one stated, and mentioning only that wouldn't be such a TTATOT. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:23, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
===Rose Blake===
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

*'''Double Decliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiined!''' Seriously, can we stop stretching Fun Facts as far as they can possibly be stretched? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Slightly like? Oh, man! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline for the pudgy! Decline for the pudgy!''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Gimme a D-cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
===Black Spots===
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you look at the bottom of Stinkoman's white area you can see little black lines so this 'fact' is false [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
===Tampo===
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Sleckhund.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:24, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Er...''' The meaning of Tempo might be he is going faster.
*'''Comment''' Or it could also be a reference to tampons... Um, actually, no, forget that I said that.

Dude, Whomever thought of ths had no idea of an alternative. Maybe it's a bad translation. Or he isn't very mean and also doesn't taste very good.

===Brody===
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Panzerschrecken'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:26, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:09, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''-and Ogog, the size is more-or-less in proportion as well.

===Engrish===
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second the Decrine.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:28, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
===Stone Fist===
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I think it is pretty much already stated. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
**And now that more levels are actually coming out, saying more levels will come out is completely useless. [[user: lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' Now that a new level using the stone fist has been released, this is utterly useless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:06, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
===Control Scheme===
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' As a video game lover, I've gotta say that I am pretty used to using the right-most button to jump and the left-most button to fire. Just water this fact down a bit. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Declorne''' Uh... so? [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''Declonomys''' I see no problems with the control screen.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

===Stoves===
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
****Actually, its very likely since plastic, and many fabrics dont decompose at all. The magnetic tape in the casette might have decomposed but that wouldnt have mattered because Stinkoman ate the casette, not played it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:40, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But doesnt a Capital X mean the greek number for 10, and a miniscule x stand for a variable? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:48, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****A capital X signifies a ''Roman'' numeral 10. And variables are ''usually'' lowercase, but if you don't have a character set with upper- and lowercase letters (like most old video games), then you just have to make do with what you got. (See also [[Rabbit Algebra]], which seems to mix the two.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Does anyone else feel that 20X6 is simply a brilliant joke? Don't try to place it into a timeline, just leave it silly, as it is. --J
*'''Decline.''' Does the author of this FF purport to have insider knowledge of TBC's ''fictitious'' world? [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:10, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''I'll quote myself, damnit! just kidding, quote me all you want. But, to reiterate, What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power.--[[User:geoguy91|geoguy91]] 01:06, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Ladder difference ===
{{stufffact|The ladders in level 5.2 look slightly different from those of level 5.1.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:34, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)|19:08, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)|revised and accepted|4|2|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Different Colors ===
{{stufffact|The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)|00:56, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|5|0|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Tiny eye difference ===
{{stufffact|The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)|01:00, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|revised and accepted|5|1|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Liekand's magic powers ===
{{stufffact|Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.}}
{{stuffverdict|12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)|02:15, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|5|0|Stinkoman 20X6}}

== Weird glitch. ==

My brother's a big fan of this game. One day, long ago, we we're checking out the Continue Menu, and ALL THE LEVELS WERE THERE!!!!
My brother noticed the strange thing that happened, and swore that he didn't make all this happen. He didn't have a clue of what was going on. Then I thought, ''This is obviously a rare glitch. I didn't do anything.'' So now when I see "stinkoman level <#>!" on the
main page, I go the game and click "CONTINUE" and I check it out. Pretty cool, huh? I'm just wondering if anyone else expierenced this glitch. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 20:14, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:That's not a glitch. Everyone can access all the levels, at all times. The only time when levels were hidden was when there were only three. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:19, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Well, also, you can't access stage #.2 until you beat #.1. But you can access all of the #.1s at any time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:20, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::Right, forgot about that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:22, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh yeah, and when a new level is released, the previously released one's .2 is now accessible. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]
I see. That's probably also why my grandmother's computer has it too. Oh welll. List of levels my brother hasn't beaten yet:

Levels:

*5.2 (It's pretty hard, my brother can't get though the uptants in a row)

*7.2 (My brother has beaten this level at grandmother's, but when we came back it was gone.)

*8.1 (For some reason, it came out today. My brother can't play it because he's still asleep. That, and the computer can't access the game.)

*8.2 (Ditto.)

Bosses:

*Tampo (Even if it's the first level boss. it was supposed to be easy.)
*Nebulon (If you can't beat the .2 level, you can't see/beat the boss.)
*The Liekand (He has seen it, though.)
*An Ice Machine (Ditto with The Leikand.)
*Unnamed Boss (For the reason he can't play Level 8.)

G'bye. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:17, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

*Well, TBC are assuming you've beat all the levels so far, and doesn't want good players to get frustrated at playing the levels all over again each time stinkoman updates. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 00:56, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Let me get ths straight. You were able to gain access to all of the levels? How did you do it? Were you able to get to level 10? -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 07:51, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
: This is 100% normal. You can reach stage 1 of every level no matter what, at least, since level 4 was released. Of course he wasn't able to get to level 10. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:10, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== XML Page ==

Should we make a page for the stinkoman XML files? --{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 07:44, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:[[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|I already did.]] And it includes the externalSwf files as well. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 12:45, 2 August 2005 (BST)

::I mean a proper page and not a user page like Stinkoman/XML --{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 22:19, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Fall and die?==

I'm playing a web version (from i-am-bored.com), and all that happens is that Stinkoman falls down the screen and dies, no ground, no bosses, WTF is going on?

Don't even acronym swears, and just use the one of Homestar runner.com those web ones are unrealiable. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:My guess is that they only saved stinkogame.swf without the levelData or externalSwf files. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 02:48, 3 August 2005 (BST)

::how can a normal person (like me) save everything onto their (my) computer?--[[User:StrongBad110990|StrongBad110990]] 18:19, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Your best bet is to download [[User:phlip|phlip]]'s Stinkoman 20X6 Cheat Program, then run nocheater.html. You can find it [[Forum:3336|here]]. It's a lot easier than grabbing a list of links from [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|somewhere]], and saving them into the appropriate folders. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:53, 9 August 2005 (BST)

:Look for Venusy's Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman, then download all those files. And another thing; don't use WTF. Use WTC. It makes you sound more like a true Homestar Runner fan.

: I had this happen in the middle of the game while playing from homestarrunner.com . I was at the level 1 boss (the giant brain). I had 2 lives left. I died. When it started over, Stinkoman fell and kept falling. And the game was over. Must've been some kind of glitch I guess.--DrPepperMD 9/24/05.
: I belive I have an answer to why this happens (not 100% sure though), I first saw/played the game on a new(er) computer and it workd fine, but when a tryed to play it on an older computer (that had an out of date flash version) there was no ground. prehaps the version of flash that was the current version when this came out supported the ground that prevented you from falling. just a though.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Strange Storyline==
Well, the storyline's kinda getting dull since Pan-pan was kidnapped. Almost all the levels 4-10 is/will be about rescuing pan-pan (and starting level 7, 1-up too. ) TBC, this is an awesome game, but the story... --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 14:06, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stinkoman is emulating 8-bit platformers. "Rescue Pan-Pan" IS the story. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:01, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Thank you Stinkoman! But our panda is in another castle! ;) --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 17:50, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Besides, as you may have noticed, even Stinkoman admits the plot is utterly predictable. Although, even though the PLOT might be predictable, chances are, if -0 or 3 are any indication, the level scenarios won't be. :) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:dude, this is an old-style platforming game, in other words, as long as the gameply's good, nobody cares about the plot.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 19:43, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Another possible Negatory level reference?==
I'm not adding this to the item page, but if someone can verify what I'm remembering and thinks it's useful, then add it to the "Real World References" for the Level -0 (Negatory) world. I seem to remember that in the original NES Metroid, with just an autofiring controller (ah, NES Advantage, we had good times, yes?), you could get wedged in a door, then collapse/expand rapidly and climb up through the wall. If you did this on one particular door, you would go up into a very strange and frankly hazardous area that was all messed up (sounding a lot like that lost Sonic level). It was easy to get stuck, and I don't think any of the doors worked properly. Anyone remember what I'm talking about? If so, it's perhaps another possible reference like that Sonic world, with the advantage that no Game Genie or anything was required to get to it. -- DLR, Aug 3 2005, 1:00pm

:The reference to Hidden Palace is dubious at best. Hidden Palace is nothing like Negatory World. The Game Genie version is such that the entire thing looks like nothing but static (since the HPZ graphics were removed from the final cartridge) and the Sonic 2 Beta version is not glitched, just unfinished. Do you have any links for the Metroid reference? I'm not familiar with that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:32, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Here's one reference: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Metroid#Metroid.27s_Hidden_Worlds Wikipedia: Metroid Talk]. And a [http://www.classicgaming.com/mdb/m1/met-map.txt technical explainer] on Metroid's map structure and why it's a glitch, not a true "hidden area". It's interesting stuff, but admittedly probably not a direct inspiration for the Negatory world. -- DLR, [[User:216.41.87.210|216.41.87.210]] 23:48, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I do think it may be a reference to Hidden Palace, because there are [http://www.sws2b.com/zones/hidden_palace_final screenshots] of it. They do look similar to -0. In both versions, the level is incomplete, but in the beta ROM which I have, the graphics are not messed and it is easier to play. Level 8 more than probably has something to do with this Zone. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 14:53, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I've played HPZ, too, and don't see the resemblance. Neither version is particularly glitchy; one has missing graphics and one has perfect graphics but is ''unfinished''. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:52, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I still like to think that Level -0 is a reference to the 'Glitch City' bug in Pokémon Red/Blue versions. The randomly generated graphics are similar, as is the ability to defy the game's physics (example: Stinkoman can stand on the air at the beginning of the lever, and you could Surf through solid objects in the Glitch City bug). Also, there are many points in Glitch City where your character could become trapped in a place that seems solid, just like the opening cut-scene where Stinkoman was stuck in the wall. TBC have made Pokémon references before (Cheatachu, anyone?), and the glitchy nature of the first Pokémon games are widely known. Now, I wouldn't go so far as to compare Ekersby with Missingno., but the parallels between Level -0 and Glitch City are very similar.
But, with all that in mind, Super Mario Bros.'s Minus World was still the first thing to come to mind. Glitch City occurred to me just as soon as I started playing the level. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

BUT, in the Sonic 2 Beta ROM, act 2 of HPZ puts you stuck inside a wall. That MUST have ''something'' to do with it. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 18:01, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stuck inside a wall comes from Minus World. You know, Minus World, Negatory Level... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:19, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

But you're not '''stuck''' in it, you slide through it until you come out the other side. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:02, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

And Stinkoman doesn't slide through the wall to get out, he Stinkoblasts (is that a good name?) it. Wonder what that might be a reference to? --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 02:07, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== This might need archival ==

Am I the only one who thinks the talk page on here is getting a LITTLE too big for its britches? I mean, cripes, look at the length of the TOC. That's pretty ridiculous; one entire page of scrolling down before you actually reach text. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 01:36, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I vote for moving everything that hasn't been changed since the start of July or so to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive]] or somesuch... I can do it now if noone else wants to. {{User:phlip/sig}} 04:39, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::I concur. It really is too long. Go right ahead and archive it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
If this does get archived (<s>and I'm not necessarily saying it should</s>), you shouldn't move the threads based on date. You should move the ones that should have been posted on the forum. Anything related to actually maintaining the page (for example, closed STUFF), should stay. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:56, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Okay, so after a second viewing under the tutelage of Pom Pom's keen eyes, I see that most of this page is idle chatter. I'm all for archiving it. But, like I said before, anything wiki-related should stay, no matter the date. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:02, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

There we go... Everthing here has been edited recently or is (IMO) still relevant... I might have been a bit overzealous, feel free to move anything back if need be. (I got edit conflicted with your message, IDC, I'll take another look soon, I just want to get this edit in) {{User:phlip/sig}} 05:20, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I've made the archives cleaner. Please feel free to add templates and keep moving more pages. I am done for now and since it's 4:20 I need to go to bed! Please also read what I posted on the [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#Messy_Page|Messy Page]] section for those who are concerned about that. Good night! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:23, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Levls to co me ==

I've noticed that there is aglitched up "more levels to come" sign at teh end of level -0. Plesae picture! --anony

I've noticed thatyou are "not logged in" so y dont u log in. Plesae log in! --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:48, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ha! Good one! Anyway, COME is spelled C OME on that screen, not CO ME. And the music that usually plays on the normal, non-glitched version stutters frequently, or so it seems, because I seek-bar'd my way to that screen, and it stuttered like that. It's all like, (mocking music) "bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow", etc. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 01:49, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Level 9 ==

What do you think level nine will be? My guess is an underwater bored.

It could also be underground cave. I hope level 10 is something like "''The Doomsday Zone''" from "''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''" --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:51, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I've got a few good ones. One is "The castle" or "Spelunking" or "Candyland" or even "The desert," or "The swamp". [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

Or maybe it'll be a "flying through the jungle level". Turbolence sounds like the kinda name for a level like that. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 10:03, 29 Aug 2005 (CST)

==The Flow==

I've noticed that owhen you start level 1.2 (maybe the others work as well) on the TRY LEVEL! screen, it says something about YOU GOTTA GO WITH THE FLOW or something like that. I can't read it cause it flashes too fast. Can anyone get a snapshot of it? — {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:41, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Two Questions==

I just got a seek bar, and I was looking around in the Flash file. Here are some questions:
#Is the music meant to skip like that at the "MORE LEVELS TO COME" (in this case, "MORE LEVLS TO C OME") screen, or is it because I was messing around?
#<del>Where in the Flash file is Undefined.Undefined?</del> Found it.
--[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 01:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's meant to sound like that - since it comes just after the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0|glitch level]]. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:52, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Oh. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 02:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Astromund trash can lid? ==

I don't really know, this is a real stretch. I remember when I was a kid I used to play this MS-DOS game callled: "Math Rescue". It was about numbers being stolen by these aleins called gruzzles, but you could take hits without dying if you had trash can lids, used as shields. Does that have relation to the Stinkomanuel? [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

== Undefined.Undefined? ==

Where the heck is that level? I can't find it!

Do you have a seek bar? If you don't, you'll need to get one to be able to view that level. Why do you need to? It's just a grey hole. Oh and by the way... Where the heck do I get a seek bar? I can't find one! I've tried downloading it before but it just says "No scripatable flash on this page." --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:43, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Bookmark the button, or for you <shaking-green-text>Internet Explorer</shaking-green-text> users, add it to your favorites. Then go around to the end of the flash file, and you'll find Undefined.Undefined. And it's not a grey hole, it's a black hole. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 20:50, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I added it to my favorites (bookmarks on firefox, but that's on my other 'puter still won't work) but nothing happens! How do I get it to work? --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:46, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

You have IE? Cuz then you have to add the Seek Bar for IE to your favorites. And you can't use it on the swf.

I have IE 5, Netscape 7, and Firefox 1.0.6 but on fire fox, I add it to my personal toolbar, and when I'm on the page, I click it, and it replies, once again, with "No scriptable flash on this page". And it says IE for WINDOWS, not Mac, so I can't get it to work. I try and try but nothing happens.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 00:06, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I just moved the seek bar to the same position as the s in characters and all the music started playing, what looked like part of the object library was on the screen, and even part of the flash for ekersby sprites morphing. I dunno what the seek bar has against the game and the games menu, but it's so weird. [[User:Seek Bar|Seek Bar]]

I have a seek bar, but how do I use it? I click it on my personal toolbar bookmarks when I go to the stinkogame.html on homestarrunner.com, but I can't get it to work. Why is that? --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 23:39, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Am I supposed to drag the seek bar from bookmarks to the web page? hurry up and answer plz, I'm impatient. I have it on Netscape, Mozilla, and IE.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 00:09, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Hmm... why don't you test it out to see if that's what you're supposed to do... In other words, yes, you drag it. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 01:19, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Still didn't work. Are they Mac compatible? {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== New from Brother Chaps. Inc.!! ==

NEW STINKOMAN LEVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put it up on the main page so every one knows, please. --Anony

THAT'S KINDA OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We always put that kinda stuff on the [[Template:whatsnew|whatsnew template]] {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:00, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Shots ==

The firey shots now go strait, no longer going down while going forward.
: Not entirely true; they do drop a little, but they also go full-screen instead of just a short distance like they used to. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:53, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== How many hits? ==

How many freakin' hits does it take to kill Harvax?

:13 or 14. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 23:08, 5 September 2005 (BST)

Thank you. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

== Version 7.0 - 7.1 ==

Did anybody notice when the notice in the bottom right corner changed from 7.0 to 7.1? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 09:27, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I did. Maybe it was a smalll update, like a bug fix or a stinkomanual update. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I believe 7.1 was a bug fixing version. From memory, it corrected level -0.4 from showing up after defeating Ekersby. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:09, 7 September 2005 (BST)

==I can't find the 9.3 boss!==

Whenever i reach the flag, nothing happens and I just keep flying through an infinite level! Anybody have any idea whats going on/what to do?

I've had this problem, but only on the cheat version. I have absolutely NO idea of what's going on. I had a theory but forgot it. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:26, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== ...The new punching?! ==

Who else here doesn't like the new punching?? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]
:heh? what do you mean by "new punching"?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:55, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

== Messy Page ==
The whole fun fact section of this page is a mess. I'm thinking we need to delete some facts, maybe move some pages, stuff like that. Like individual boss fun facts chould go in their own section in the enemies page. And I think a page should be set up of a list of all the "Try Level" "Game Over" and "More Levels To Come" scenes. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

:It is a bit messy. I'll try sweeping the floor.
:...
:But seriously, yea. Too much info. We need to have a [[garage sale]] or something. I'll maybe try to do a bit of work on the page. Probably a few more Fun Facts subsections are needed, as well as maybe an 'updates section', for the little things they change every time they update. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:07, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::The fun facts should be split into levels wherever possible, and a bunch of other changes. I was kinda waiting for the game to be finished before proposing any radical alterations. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Would it be okay to remove all of the "when the game was first made, it was like this. it was later changed" type messages? Shouldn't the guide just talk about how the game is now?--DrPepperMD

::We have precedent for keeping records of when things change, but that's mostly because the toons and such don't change often - this game changes regularly... Perhaps split them off to yet another page? I'm willing to do that now if there's no objections. {{User:phlip/sig}} 03:56, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I had another look - I don't think there are enough "in a previous version..." facts to warrant its own page, but I still don't think they should be removed. Perhaps group them all together under a "changes" heading or something... {{User:phlip/sig}} 11:10, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:'''Hi!''' I have two points I'd like to talk about (sorry, I'm not really mentioning anything new).
:*This TALK page is indeed still messy. I think we should archive ''again'' everything except the Closed (STUFF), XML and couple of most recent (like level 9) conversations. Oh! and this section of course. I'd do it, but um, I hate to ask... how do you archive things again?
::*The Main page has its archives broken in pieces of 20, and has its own template and everything, I think this talk page merits that kind of organization.
:*Um yeah the page is kinda bloated. I was thinking making actual ''level'' pages for most stuff (we already have the walkthroughs, which the level pages can point to) like [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. I think it's doable at least for the early stages, and since the game is presumably nearly complete. That or Real World references should have its own page. So what should it be, individual level pages or Real World references? :D
::*Organizing the page now, will save us the headache of updating it later, when it's even more bloated. Adding to a new infrastructure isn't necessarily that much harder.
: Thank you guys for your time!
: --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:50, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
: I have organized the talk [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#This_might_need_archival|archives]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:24, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I definitely like the separate Real World References page! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:38, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I have reorganized some of the sections, is it clean enough to remove the cleanup tag? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:24, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::It is not even close to being clean. You have been doing a '''great''' jorb on this, but it is still to big for its own good. We should probably take out the updates and break the FFs into smaller sections. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Some good examples of shortening is that we need to make either A: A Big Fun fact page or B: Seperate articles for all the facts and references.

== ??!!Stinkomanuel!!?? ==

It-It's at level 5 again!!! What the crap just happened?!? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]

== REALLY SLOW ==
This game runs REEEAAALLY slow on my computer! Does anyone else have that problem? Even at school on P4 computers it seems slow. What kind of computers do you need to play this? [[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 19:43, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff bad? ==

What's wrong with the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman 20X6 - CUSTOM LEVELS|fanstuff]] [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION|links]]? [[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] says it's "wiki policy," but I don't see anything against fanstuff in the [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]]. {{User:Trogga/sig}}
:I agree with you. It's "External Links", not "H*R Links." But I can see why some wouldn't like it. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

::I'm not sure exactly where I read it, but you can take it to the administrators if you want. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 18:49, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure you read it in an old discussion of the page - where an admin said that no fanstuff related ''pages'' and ''fun facts'' should be made. (i.e. a guide to custom levels; a factoid on how you can do something with a cheat version) - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
::If I remember correctly it was a sysop edit summary just a few days ago, but if you really want to add it again, I'll stop reverting. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 19:00, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Here's examples I found. These may be what you are talking about: [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive#Add an article on custom levels.3F|here]] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&diff=138917&oldid=138711 here]. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 19:02, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

We don't link to fanstuff because (1) as a knowledge base, we should only list official sources as external links, (2) we don't have any real info on fanstuff nor do we have any control of its content, and (3) if we allowed person A's fanstuff on this page, then we'd have to allow the fanstuff of persons B, C, D, E, and everyone else on all the other pages, and that is not the point of this wiki, nor should keeping up with and policing things like that be one of our chores. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:46, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

You're Insane, man! I liked those links! Besides, Trogga and Joshua are right! Those links were useful, Fanstuff or not! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:The cheat version may be bad, but the custom levels are public fanstuff from multiple users, and I think they should stay. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

Any glitches that can only be accessed with the cheat version or in custom levels should be treated like out-of-the-frame glitches in the toons - they were not intended to be seen by the public, so there's no reason to allow for them. That is, if there's something that happens because something is not specifically catered for (eg 1-Up kicking a Stafulter) it should not be mentioned here (though it could be mentioned on the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION#Quirks|fanstuff entry's page]]). If there is something intentional that can only be accessed this way (like the cabbage enemy was) then it should be mentioned, as a remark or as appropriate on another Stinkoman 20X6 page. Linking to the custom levels here would in my mind be the same as linking to [[HRFWiki:Other Character Email|Other Character Email]] or suchlike from the [[Strong Bad Email]] page, and would easily set a precedent for every fanstuff (or even just each category of fanstuff would be bad enough) being linked to from the H*R thing it was inspired by. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:09, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

But what's the point of (fanstuff) interwiki links if we're not going to use them? {{User:Trogga/sig}}

Yeah, if we're not supposed to link to fanstuff, then, ''Oh! Why don't we'' '''blow the fanstuff link off the face of that side template thingy''' if we're "not supposed to link to fanstuff"! See? it's ridiculous!! Take ''that'', It's dot com! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:There's a difference between "linking to the fanstuff site from this site" to "linking to a fanstuff page ''from an article'' on this site" - the ''articles'' are supposed to make a ''knowledge base'' containing ''facts'' about ''H*R''. However the site as a whole contains the knowledge base, the forum, the fanstuff, the chat channel, etc... so links between them ''outside the articles themselves'' are still good. {{User:phlip/sig}}

:Take it easy, FaceCrap. It's not an extremely good idea to talk like that. — {{User:Lapper/sig}}

:Yeah, I guess not. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

So,''anyway'', if no one's said anything against the Fanstuff links for days, why hasn't somebody put them back? I would, but if it were a good idea to, somebody probably would've already. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:I am against putting the fanstuff links there. People should just visit fanstuff themselves. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 14:05, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Well, you ''can'' just go to the external links part of the side template, true, but it might be easier to have direct links on the bottom of the page. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:So what, we have to be actively posting here all the time saying "I still don't want the fanstuff links there" after the discussion seems settled? OK, to make it explicit: I think they should not be there, and I will continue to think they should not be there until such a time as I specifically post saying otherwise. Until then, take it as read that I am posting here regularly saying they should not be there. {{User:phlip/sig}} 16:02, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== 9.1 intro ==

Can anyone remember what game this is parodying? Where it shows the castle and then pans across to the character standing on a rock.

I remember this from a NES game I used to own but cant remember what :(

:Some Megaman games have it... - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 11:40, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::There's also the some what popular Sega game Rocket Night Adventures, and it looks alomost just like that, except he looks at the kingdom then a giant pig head appears and laughs. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

== Level 8 ==

I know people have commented on the whole level 7,-0,9 thing. I think I has the solution. After Level 10, TBC are likely to go back and do a level 8 as somewhat of a lost level. I'm dissapointed there was no swimming level, so this might be where it comes in ( Level 10 defenitely won't be such a level. I'll bet anyone my entire life savings [being $8.42] that 10 will be a Bowser's Keep type deal)---[[User:RatherAnnoying]]
: Level -0 ''is'' level 8, just not called that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:06, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Cutscene Before 9.3 ==

So, doesn't anyone think that noting that there is no cutscene before 9.3 is too obvious? There's no cutscene before An Ice Machine either, and nobody cared about that! Who put that fact up, anyway? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 00:34, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I agree. We should either put both facts up, or none of 'em. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:13, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Easter Eggs==

:I know it wouldn't do much, but to help clean up, couldnt we move the easter eggs onto the levels in which they're on? For instance, for the "snot bubble" easter egg, couldnt we just keep that on the "Oh! The moon!" page? --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:11, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I don't think we need the snot bubble one there. We already recorded it on [[Stinkoman 20X6 Playable Characters]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Stinkoman Labels ==

Personally, I think there should be some kind of consistency among the level titles. If we are to change the level 8's to level -0's, we should do that throughout the entire page and not just to one of the titles. I changed it back because, having two dashes -0-9 doesnt' exactly look pretty, and it would look even worse if we had (-0)-9, as I had seen once before (if my memory serves me right). Please accept my apologies but I will change it back to the way I had it for the aformentioned reason. If it is deemed better to have all level 8 labels turned into -0 label, then it should be done across the board. Thanks.--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:36, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:My vote is too change all '''-0''' tags into '''8'''s. I find the -0 title confusing when being used among other levels. This is probably especially true for newbies. 8 is just much simpler. And it's not entirely inaccurate either - Level 8 ''is'' called Level 8 in the Stinkomanual. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: But the ''game itself'' calls it Level -0. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:47, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: To me that says that the game creators (that would be TBC) both call it level 8 and level -0. However, my first issue still stands: ''consistency''. Having several titles call it level 8 and only one or two (or even half) level -0 is inconsistent and looks bad. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:50, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::: Do we have titles that call it level 8? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: We go by -0. I don't understand why people care about it. We go by the official site, and the site calls it -0. Oh, and I think the walkthrough says -0/8. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 17:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: To answer my own question, we did. I came up with a solution that not only fixed that, but also fixes the "double hyphen" problem. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: What the walkthrough says doesn't matter - it can be changed. Basically, the official site calls it -0 '''AND''' 8. So we could go either way without "official site relevance" problems. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: Yes, this is true, but one is in the manual (which has lots of other intentional mistakes) and the other is in the game itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::I was gonna post this till you guys beat me to it (twice! I had 2 edit conflicts):
::::::''Pretty much every main title that refers to it under Trivia, remarks (before the change) and inside references. There is a snippet in the flash [[Stinkoman_20X6#General|information]] that calls it episode 8 (this i beleive is original TBC wording) and further below 8/-0, and ... and that's it!
::::: and I like your solution! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:58, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the manual itself is kind of inconsistant. I agree with Jay. And furthermore, I think -0 sums up the level better too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::: Working heavily on the Stinkoman 20X6 levels, I must say -0 is a great inconvience. When we can choose between convient and inconvient, why do we pick the harder one? It seems that TBC used -0 on the level selection screen and "TRY LEVEL" screen and 8 everywhere else. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:02, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Define "everywhere else." All I see was the manual, which was already mentioned, and the "What's New" box from the day before, where they didn't want to give away the new level. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:09, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Not to mention ''" It said "V6.0 EPISODES 1-8" until September 5, 2005, when the ninth level was added."'' Although level and episode are two slightly different things. Yes, I know I'm being slightly repetitive. I do like the new wording a lot though! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Ok, I think that we can live with some itty bitty inconviences in our articles. -0 makes much more sense than 8, and is called -0 on the site. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:59, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::I don't exactly see what you're talking about with -0 making more sense. -0 is much more inconvenient than 8, and we've already established that TBC call it both. I vote '''8'''. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:13, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

== The shadow ==

:anyone thinking about who the end boss is going to be?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:59, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6

Anonomys — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:59:29 GMT

Anonomys: The shadow

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== XML ==

Did anyone notice that you can download and edit the XML files to create new levels? This could be good for the Fanstuff Wiki, if anyone gets it working. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

- Care to share where they are? :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:05, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, I think you have to edit the flash file to get them to work offline first (which is not too hard). They are at:

[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.3.3.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/stinkogame.swf]

Those are the ones I found in my temp folder (even though I didn't get to those levels). If you go to ''View'' -> ''Page Source'' in Firefox, you can kinda figure out how it works (maybe). --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
''Edit: Darn, the links don't work. They are in some other folder. Once I figure out the folder name, the game will work offline. And they don't show up on Google yet.''

Ooh - found it - They're in another folder called "levelData."
[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

-As a note for other people wanting to edit, you need to get the 5 level files, the main swf, and the object library: [http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/objectLibrary.swf]. (You can see some game graphics if you view that file)

It's a pretty simple almost-XML format, I'm making a level editor for it now.
[[User:Travis Wells|Travis Wells]]

:Woah. New enemy in that library. If anything confirms another set of levels coming up, that would. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:07, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Hey, I was just about to make a level editor for it, but it probably won't be very good. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

:Hey, if you decompile the flash file for the game you'll see there is already a level editor in there on the script for sprite 761. Unfortunately I don't know anything about flash, so I don't know what to do with that, or how to get to it, but someone must.

:I'm working on an editor written in VB using the MSXML library. --[[User:ackicantthinkofaname|breadtangle]] 18:30, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
I know all about Flash, but I don't have a decompiler -NonHacka

'''NOTE:''' With the release of Stinkoman 20X6 v6, those links have become outdated. The new ones are [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|here]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:48, 4 August 2005 (BST) '''EDIT:''' Moved all links to my user page.

Arghh...I Made the installation program but i need a site to upload it onto.
Can someone tell me one? --- [[User:Pertmywert|[[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]]]
:[mailto:phlipping@yahoo.com Email] it to me and I'll host it for you, if you'd like. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 08:02, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
::http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install.exe --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:28, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

::: Thanks philip for hosting it but remember i made it[[User:Pertmywert|Joel]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]

:::: Pertmywert has sent me the new version: http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install_v3.exe - I'll keep the v2 one up incase anyone's interested. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 23:44, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

I already have a great working editor for this game, a new version has just been released. Check it out here: http://www.geocities.com/joesarcade/stinkoman.zip or here: http://joesarcade.hopto.org:8093/stinkoman.zip

Can someone please make a level editor compatible with MacOS?--[[User:Darklinkskywalker|Darklinkskywalker]] 20:38, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

*OH WHAT THE CRAP!!!! Do need Flash or something for this? Not Flash Player, but the animator thingie? Every time I click on a link it doesnt work!!! PLEASE HELP!!!

:Which links are you trying to click on, the ones in this section, the ones on the [[Stinkoman 20X6]] page, or the ones on my user page? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:50, 4 August 2005 (BST)

== Closed STUFF ==

These Fun Facts were on STUFF and declined. If you want to discuss these facts, please make sure your votes are seperate from the original ones.

===Stlunko===
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.
*'''Decline.''' If this isn't a TTATOT, I don't know what is. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', you're not trying hard enough - I'm sure you could think of lots more bosses that involve fists somehow if you tried... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I usually like these kind of Fun Facts, but it sounds like you're just not trying here. Pick one. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Well, if '''I''' had to pick one, I'd definitely pick the first one; it's what the original one stated, and mentioning only that wouldn't be such a TTATOT. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:23, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
===Rose Blake===
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

*'''Double Decliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiined!''' Seriously, can we stop stretching Fun Facts as far as they can possibly be stretched? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Slightly like? Oh, man! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline for the pudgy! Decline for the pudgy!''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Gimme a D-cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
===Black Spots===
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you look at the bottom of Stinkoman's white area you can see little black lines so this 'fact' is false [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
===Tampo===
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Sleckhund.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:24, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Er...''' The meaning of Tempo might be he is going faster.
*'''Comment''' Or it could also be a reference to tampons... Um, actually, no, forget that I said that.

Dude, Whomever thought of ths had no idea of an alternative. Maybe it's a bad translation. Or he isn't very mean and also doesn't taste very good.

===Brody===
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Panzerschrecken'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:26, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:09, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''-and Ogog, the size is more-or-less in proportion as well.

===Engrish===
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second the Decrine.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:28, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
===Stone Fist===
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I think it is pretty much already stated. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
**And now that more levels are actually coming out, saying more levels will come out is completely useless. [[user: lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' Now that a new level using the stone fist has been released, this is utterly useless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:06, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
===Control Scheme===
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' As a video game lover, I've gotta say that I am pretty used to using the right-most button to jump and the left-most button to fire. Just water this fact down a bit. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Declorne''' Uh... so? [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''Declonomys''' I see no problems with the control screen.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

===Stoves===
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
****Actually, its very likely since plastic, and many fabrics dont decompose at all. The magnetic tape in the casette might have decomposed but that wouldnt have mattered because Stinkoman ate the casette, not played it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:40, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But doesnt a Capital X mean the greek number for 10, and a miniscule x stand for a variable? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:48, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****A capital X signifies a ''Roman'' numeral 10. And variables are ''usually'' lowercase, but if you don't have a character set with upper- and lowercase letters (like most old video games), then you just have to make do with what you got. (See also [[Rabbit Algebra]], which seems to mix the two.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Does anyone else feel that 20X6 is simply a brilliant joke? Don't try to place it into a timeline, just leave it silly, as it is. --J
*'''Decline.''' Does the author of this FF purport to have insider knowledge of TBC's ''fictitious'' world? [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:10, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''I'll quote myself, damnit! just kidding, quote me all you want. But, to reiterate, What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power.--[[User:geoguy91|geoguy91]] 01:06, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Ladder difference ===
{{stufffact|The ladders in level 5.2 look slightly different from those of level 5.1.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:34, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)|19:08, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)|revised and accepted|4|2|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Different Colors ===
{{stufffact|The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)|00:56, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|5|0|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Tiny eye difference ===
{{stufffact|The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)|01:00, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|revised and accepted|5|1|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Liekand's magic powers ===
{{stufffact|Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.}}
{{stuffverdict|12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)|02:15, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|5|0|Stinkoman 20X6}}

== Weird glitch. ==

My brother's a big fan of this game. One day, long ago, we we're checking out the Continue Menu, and ALL THE LEVELS WERE THERE!!!!
My brother noticed the strange thing that happened, and swore that he didn't make all this happen. He didn't have a clue of what was going on. Then I thought, ''This is obviously a rare glitch. I didn't do anything.'' So now when I see "stinkoman level <#>!" on the
main page, I go the game and click "CONTINUE" and I check it out. Pretty cool, huh? I'm just wondering if anyone else expierenced this glitch. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 20:14, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:That's not a glitch. Everyone can access all the levels, at all times. The only time when levels were hidden was when there were only three. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:19, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Well, also, you can't access stage #.2 until you beat #.1. But you can access all of the #.1s at any time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:20, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::Right, forgot about that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:22, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh yeah, and when a new level is released, the previously released one's .2 is now accessible. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]
I see. That's probably also why my grandmother's computer has it too. Oh welll. List of levels my brother hasn't beaten yet:

Levels:

*5.2 (It's pretty hard, my brother can't get though the uptants in a row)

*7.2 (My brother has beaten this level at grandmother's, but when we came back it was gone.)

*8.1 (For some reason, it came out today. My brother can't play it because he's still asleep. That, and the computer can't access the game.)

*8.2 (Ditto.)

Bosses:

*Tampo (Even if it's the first level boss. it was supposed to be easy.)
*Nebulon (If you can't beat the .2 level, you can't see/beat the boss.)
*The Liekand (He has seen it, though.)
*An Ice Machine (Ditto with The Leikand.)
*Unnamed Boss (For the reason he can't play Level 8.)

G'bye. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:17, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

*Well, TBC are assuming you've beat all the levels so far, and doesn't want good players to get frustrated at playing the levels all over again each time stinkoman updates. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 00:56, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Let me get ths straight. You were able to gain access to all of the levels? How did you do it? Were you able to get to level 10? -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 07:51, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
: This is 100% normal. You can reach stage 1 of every level no matter what, at least, since level 4 was released. Of course he wasn't able to get to level 10. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:10, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== XML Page ==

Should we make a page for the stinkoman XML files? --{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 07:44, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:[[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|I already did.]] And it includes the externalSwf files as well. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 12:45, 2 August 2005 (BST)

::I mean a proper page and not a user page like Stinkoman/XML --{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 22:19, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Fall and die?==

I'm playing a web version (from i-am-bored.com), and all that happens is that Stinkoman falls down the screen and dies, no ground, no bosses, WTF is going on?

Don't even acronym swears, and just use the one of Homestar runner.com those web ones are unrealiable. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:My guess is that they only saved stinkogame.swf without the levelData or externalSwf files. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 02:48, 3 August 2005 (BST)

::how can a normal person (like me) save everything onto their (my) computer?--[[User:StrongBad110990|StrongBad110990]] 18:19, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Your best bet is to download [[User:phlip|phlip]]'s Stinkoman 20X6 Cheat Program, then run nocheater.html. You can find it [[Forum:3336|here]]. It's a lot easier than grabbing a list of links from [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|somewhere]], and saving them into the appropriate folders. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:53, 9 August 2005 (BST)

:Look for Venusy's Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman, then download all those files. And another thing; don't use WTF. Use WTC. It makes you sound more like a true Homestar Runner fan.

: I had this happen in the middle of the game while playing from homestarrunner.com . I was at the level 1 boss (the giant brain). I had 2 lives left. I died. When it started over, Stinkoman fell and kept falling. And the game was over. Must've been some kind of glitch I guess.--DrPepperMD 9/24/05.
: I belive I have an answer to why this happens (not 100% sure though), I first saw/played the game on a new(er) computer and it workd fine, but when a tryed to play it on an older computer (that had an out of date flash version) there was no ground. prehaps the version of flash that was the current version when this came out supported the ground that prevented you from falling. just a though.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Strange Storyline==
Well, the storyline's kinda getting dull since Pan-pan was kidnapped. Almost all the levels 4-10 is/will be about rescuing pan-pan (and starting level 7, 1-up too. ) TBC, this is an awesome game, but the story... --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 14:06, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stinkoman is emulating 8-bit platformers. "Rescue Pan-Pan" IS the story. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:01, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Thank you Stinkoman! But our panda is in another castle! ;) --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 17:50, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Besides, as you may have noticed, even Stinkoman admits the plot is utterly predictable. Although, even though the PLOT might be predictable, chances are, if -0 or 3 are any indication, the level scenarios won't be. :) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Another possible Negatory level reference?==
I'm not adding this to the item page, but if someone can verify what I'm remembering and thinks it's useful, then add it to the "Real World References" for the Level -0 (Negatory) world. I seem to remember that in the original NES Metroid, with just an autofiring controller (ah, NES Advantage, we had good times, yes?), you could get wedged in a door, then collapse/expand rapidly and climb up through the wall. If you did this on one particular door, you would go up into a very strange and frankly hazardous area that was all messed up (sounding a lot like that lost Sonic level). It was easy to get stuck, and I don't think any of the doors worked properly. Anyone remember what I'm talking about? If so, it's perhaps another possible reference like that Sonic world, with the advantage that no Game Genie or anything was required to get to it. -- DLR, Aug 3 2005, 1:00pm

:The reference to Hidden Palace is dubious at best. Hidden Palace is nothing like Negatory World. The Game Genie version is such that the entire thing looks like nothing but static (since the HPZ graphics were removed from the final cartridge) and the Sonic 2 Beta version is not glitched, just unfinished. Do you have any links for the Metroid reference? I'm not familiar with that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:32, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Here's one reference: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Metroid#Metroid.27s_Hidden_Worlds Wikipedia: Metroid Talk]. And a [http://www.classicgaming.com/mdb/m1/met-map.txt technical explainer] on Metroid's map structure and why it's a glitch, not a true "hidden area". It's interesting stuff, but admittedly probably not a direct inspiration for the Negatory world. -- DLR, [[User:216.41.87.210|216.41.87.210]] 23:48, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I do think it may be a reference to Hidden Palace, because there are [http://www.sws2b.com/zones/hidden_palace_final screenshots] of it. They do look similar to -0. In both versions, the level is incomplete, but in the beta ROM which I have, the graphics are not messed and it is easier to play. Level 8 more than probably has something to do with this Zone. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 14:53, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I've played HPZ, too, and don't see the resemblance. Neither version is particularly glitchy; one has missing graphics and one has perfect graphics but is ''unfinished''. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:52, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I still like to think that Level -0 is a reference to the 'Glitch City' bug in Pokémon Red/Blue versions. The randomly generated graphics are similar, as is the ability to defy the game's physics (example: Stinkoman can stand on the air at the beginning of the lever, and you could Surf through solid objects in the Glitch City bug). Also, there are many points in Glitch City where your character could become trapped in a place that seems solid, just like the opening cut-scene where Stinkoman was stuck in the wall. TBC have made Pokémon references before (Cheatachu, anyone?), and the glitchy nature of the first Pokémon games are widely known. Now, I wouldn't go so far as to compare Ekersby with Missingno., but the parallels between Level -0 and Glitch City are very similar.
But, with all that in mind, Super Mario Bros.'s Minus World was still the first thing to come to mind. Glitch City occurred to me just as soon as I started playing the level. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

BUT, in the Sonic 2 Beta ROM, act 2 of HPZ puts you stuck inside a wall. That MUST have ''something'' to do with it. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 18:01, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stuck inside a wall comes from Minus World. You know, Minus World, Negatory Level... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:19, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

But you're not '''stuck''' in it, you slide through it until you come out the other side. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:02, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

And Stinkoman doesn't slide through the wall to get out, he Stinkoblasts (is that a good name?) it. Wonder what that might be a reference to? --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 02:07, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== This might need archival ==

Am I the only one who thinks the talk page on here is getting a LITTLE too big for its britches? I mean, cripes, look at the length of the TOC. That's pretty ridiculous; one entire page of scrolling down before you actually reach text. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 01:36, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I vote for moving everything that hasn't been changed since the start of July or so to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive]] or somesuch... I can do it now if noone else wants to. {{User:phlip/sig}} 04:39, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::I concur. It really is too long. Go right ahead and archive it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
If this does get archived (<s>and I'm not necessarily saying it should</s>), you shouldn't move the threads based on date. You should move the ones that should have been posted on the forum. Anything related to actually maintaining the page (for example, closed STUFF), should stay. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:56, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Okay, so after a second viewing under the tutelage of Pom Pom's keen eyes, I see that most of this page is idle chatter. I'm all for archiving it. But, like I said before, anything wiki-related should stay, no matter the date. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:02, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

There we go... Everthing here has been edited recently or is (IMO) still relevant... I might have been a bit overzealous, feel free to move anything back if need be. (I got edit conflicted with your message, IDC, I'll take another look soon, I just want to get this edit in) {{User:phlip/sig}} 05:20, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I've made the archives cleaner. Please feel free to add templates and keep moving more pages. I am done for now and since it's 4:20 I need to go to bed! Please also read what I posted on the [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#Messy_Page|Messy Page]] section for those who are concerned about that. Good night! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:23, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Levls to co me ==

I've noticed that there is aglitched up "more levels to come" sign at teh end of level -0. Plesae picture! --anony

I've noticed thatyou are "not logged in" so y dont u log in. Plesae log in! --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:48, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ha! Good one! Anyway, COME is spelled C OME on that screen, not CO ME. And the music that usually plays on the normal, non-glitched version stutters frequently, or so it seems, because I seek-bar'd my way to that screen, and it stuttered like that. It's all like, (mocking music) "bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow", etc. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 01:49, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Level 9 ==

What do you think level nine will be? My guess is an underwater bored.

It could also be underground cave. I hope level 10 is something like "''The Doomsday Zone''" from "''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''" --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:51, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I've got a few good ones. One is "The castle" or "Spelunking" or "Candyland" or even "The desert," or "The swamp". [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

Or maybe it'll be a "flying through the jungle level". Turbolence sounds like the kinda name for a level like that. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 10:03, 29 Aug 2005 (CST)

==The Flow==

I've noticed that owhen you start level 1.2 (maybe the others work as well) on the TRY LEVEL! screen, it says something about YOU GOTTA GO WITH THE FLOW or something like that. I can't read it cause it flashes too fast. Can anyone get a snapshot of it? — {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:41, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Two Questions==

I just got a seek bar, and I was looking around in the Flash file. Here are some questions:
#Is the music meant to skip like that at the "MORE LEVELS TO COME" (in this case, "MORE LEVLS TO C OME") screen, or is it because I was messing around?
#<del>Where in the Flash file is Undefined.Undefined?</del> Found it.
--[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 01:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's meant to sound like that - since it comes just after the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0|glitch level]]. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:52, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Oh. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 02:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Astromund trash can lid? ==

I don't really know, this is a real stretch. I remember when I was a kid I used to play this MS-DOS game callled: "Math Rescue". It was about numbers being stolen by these aleins called gruzzles, but you could take hits without dying if you had trash can lids, used as shields. Does that have relation to the Stinkomanuel? [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

== Undefined.Undefined? ==

Where the heck is that level? I can't find it!

Do you have a seek bar? If you don't, you'll need to get one to be able to view that level. Why do you need to? It's just a grey hole. Oh and by the way... Where the heck do I get a seek bar? I can't find one! I've tried downloading it before but it just says "No scripatable flash on this page." --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:43, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Bookmark the button, or for you <shaking-green-text>Internet Explorer</shaking-green-text> users, add it to your favorites. Then go around to the end of the flash file, and you'll find Undefined.Undefined. And it's not a grey hole, it's a black hole. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 20:50, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I added it to my favorites (bookmarks on firefox, but that's on my other 'puter still won't work) but nothing happens! How do I get it to work? --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:46, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

You have IE? Cuz then you have to add the Seek Bar for IE to your favorites. And you can't use it on the swf.

I have IE 5, Netscape 7, and Firefox 1.0.6 but on fire fox, I add it to my personal toolbar, and when I'm on the page, I click it, and it replies, once again, with "No scriptable flash on this page". And it says IE for WINDOWS, not Mac, so I can't get it to work. I try and try but nothing happens.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 00:06, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I just moved the seek bar to the same position as the s in characters and all the music started playing, what looked like part of the object library was on the screen, and even part of the flash for ekersby sprites morphing. I dunno what the seek bar has against the game and the games menu, but it's so weird. [[User:Seek Bar|Seek Bar]]

I have a seek bar, but how do I use it? I click it on my personal toolbar bookmarks when I go to the stinkogame.html on homestarrunner.com, but I can't get it to work. Why is that? --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 23:39, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Am I supposed to drag the seek bar from bookmarks to the web page? hurry up and answer plz, I'm impatient. I have it on Netscape, Mozilla, and IE.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 00:09, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Hmm... why don't you test it out to see if that's what you're supposed to do... In other words, yes, you drag it. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 01:19, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Still didn't work. Are they Mac compatible? {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== New from Brother Chaps. Inc.!! ==

NEW STINKOMAN LEVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put it up on the main page so every one knows, please. --Anony

THAT'S KINDA OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We always put that kinda stuff on the [[Template:whatsnew|whatsnew template]] {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:00, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Shots ==

The firey shots now go strait, no longer going down while going forward.
: Not entirely true; they do drop a little, but they also go full-screen instead of just a short distance like they used to. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:53, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== How many hits? ==

How many freakin' hits does it take to kill Harvax?

:13 or 14. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 23:08, 5 September 2005 (BST)

Thank you. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

== Version 7.0 - 7.1 ==

Did anybody notice when the notice in the bottom right corner changed from 7.0 to 7.1? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 09:27, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I did. Maybe it was a smalll update, like a bug fix or a stinkomanual update. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I believe 7.1 was a bug fixing version. From memory, it corrected level -0.4 from showing up after defeating Ekersby. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:09, 7 September 2005 (BST)

==I can't find the 9.3 boss!==

Whenever i reach the flag, nothing happens and I just keep flying through an infinite level! Anybody have any idea whats going on/what to do?

I've had this problem, but only on the cheat version. I have absolutely NO idea of what's going on. I had a theory but forgot it. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:26, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== ...The new punching?! ==

Who else here doesn't like the new punching?? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]
:heh? what do you mean by "new punching"?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:55, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

== Messy Page ==
The whole fun fact section of this page is a mess. I'm thinking we need to delete some facts, maybe move some pages, stuff like that. Like individual boss fun facts chould go in their own section in the enemies page. And I think a page should be set up of a list of all the "Try Level" "Game Over" and "More Levels To Come" scenes. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

:It is a bit messy. I'll try sweeping the floor.
:...
:But seriously, yea. Too much info. We need to have a [[garage sale]] or something. I'll maybe try to do a bit of work on the page. Probably a few more Fun Facts subsections are needed, as well as maybe an 'updates section', for the little things they change every time they update. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:07, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::The fun facts should be split into levels wherever possible, and a bunch of other changes. I was kinda waiting for the game to be finished before proposing any radical alterations. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Would it be okay to remove all of the "when the game was first made, it was like this. it was later changed" type messages? Shouldn't the guide just talk about how the game is now?--DrPepperMD

::We have precedent for keeping records of when things change, but that's mostly because the toons and such don't change often - this game changes regularly... Perhaps split them off to yet another page? I'm willing to do that now if there's no objections. {{User:phlip/sig}} 03:56, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I had another look - I don't think there are enough "in a previous version..." facts to warrant its own page, but I still don't think they should be removed. Perhaps group them all together under a "changes" heading or something... {{User:phlip/sig}} 11:10, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:'''Hi!''' I have two points I'd like to talk about (sorry, I'm not really mentioning anything new).
:*This TALK page is indeed still messy. I think we should archive ''again'' everything except the Closed (STUFF), XML and couple of most recent (like level 9) conversations. Oh! and this section of course. I'd do it, but um, I hate to ask... how do you archive things again?
::*The Main page has its archives broken in pieces of 20, and has its own template and everything, I think this talk page merits that kind of organization.
:*Um yeah the page is kinda bloated. I was thinking making actual ''level'' pages for most stuff (we already have the walkthroughs, which the level pages can point to) like [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. I think it's doable at least for the early stages, and since the game is presumably nearly complete. That or Real World references should have its own page. So what should it be, individual level pages or Real World references? :D
::*Organizing the page now, will save us the headache of updating it later, when it's even more bloated. Adding to a new infrastructure isn't necessarily that much harder.
: Thank you guys for your time!
: --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:50, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
: I have organized the talk [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#This_might_need_archival|archives]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:24, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I definitely like the separate Real World References page! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:38, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I have reorganized some of the sections, is it clean enough to remove the cleanup tag? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:24, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::It is not even close to being clean. You have been doing a '''great''' jorb on this, but it is still to big for its own good. We should probably take out the updates and break the FFs into smaller sections. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Some good examples of shortening is that we need to make either A: A Big Fun fact page or B: Seperate articles for all the facts and references.

== ??!!Stinkomanuel!!?? ==

It-It's at level 5 again!!! What the crap just happened?!? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]

== REALLY SLOW ==
This game runs REEEAAALLY slow on my computer! Does anyone else have that problem? Even at school on P4 computers it seems slow. What kind of computers do you need to play this? [[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 19:43, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff bad? ==

What's wrong with the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman 20X6 - CUSTOM LEVELS|fanstuff]] [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION|links]]? [[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] says it's "wiki policy," but I don't see anything against fanstuff in the [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]]. {{User:Trogga/sig}}
:I agree with you. It's "External Links", not "H*R Links." But I can see why some wouldn't like it. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

::I'm not sure exactly where I read it, but you can take it to the administrators if you want. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 18:49, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure you read it in an old discussion of the page - where an admin said that no fanstuff related ''pages'' and ''fun facts'' should be made. (i.e. a guide to custom levels; a factoid on how you can do something with a cheat version) - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
::If I remember correctly it was a sysop edit summary just a few days ago, but if you really want to add it again, I'll stop reverting. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 19:00, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Here's examples I found. These may be what you are talking about: [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive#Add an article on custom levels.3F|here]] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&diff=138917&oldid=138711 here]. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 19:02, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

We don't link to fanstuff because (1) as a knowledge base, we should only list official sources as external links, (2) we don't have any real info on fanstuff nor do we have any control of its content, and (3) if we allowed person A's fanstuff on this page, then we'd have to allow the fanstuff of persons B, C, D, E, and everyone else on all the other pages, and that is not the point of this wiki, nor should keeping up with and policing things like that be one of our chores. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:46, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

You're Insane, man! I liked those links! Besides, Trogga and Joshua are right! Those links were useful, Fanstuff or not! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:The cheat version may be bad, but the custom levels are public fanstuff from multiple users, and I think they should stay. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

Any glitches that can only be accessed with the cheat version or in custom levels should be treated like out-of-the-frame glitches in the toons - they were not intended to be seen by the public, so there's no reason to allow for them. That is, if there's something that happens because something is not specifically catered for (eg 1-Up kicking a Stafulter) it should not be mentioned here (though it could be mentioned on the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION#Quirks|fanstuff entry's page]]). If there is something intentional that can only be accessed this way (like the cabbage enemy was) then it should be mentioned, as a remark or as appropriate on another Stinkoman 20X6 page. Linking to the custom levels here would in my mind be the same as linking to [[HRFWiki:Other Character Email|Other Character Email]] or suchlike from the [[Strong Bad Email]] page, and would easily set a precedent for every fanstuff (or even just each category of fanstuff would be bad enough) being linked to from the H*R thing it was inspired by. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:09, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

But what's the point of (fanstuff) interwiki links if we're not going to use them? {{User:Trogga/sig}}

Yeah, if we're not supposed to link to fanstuff, then, ''Oh! Why don't we'' '''blow the fanstuff link off the face of that side template thingy''' if we're "not supposed to link to fanstuff"! See? it's ridiculous!! Take ''that'', It's dot com! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:There's a difference between "linking to the fanstuff site from this site" to "linking to a fanstuff page ''from an article'' on this site" - the ''articles'' are supposed to make a ''knowledge base'' containing ''facts'' about ''H*R''. However the site as a whole contains the knowledge base, the forum, the fanstuff, the chat channel, etc... so links between them ''outside the articles themselves'' are still good. {{User:phlip/sig}}

:Take it easy, FaceCrap. It's not an extremely good idea to talk like that. — {{User:Lapper/sig}}

:Yeah, I guess not. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

So,''anyway'', if no one's said anything against the Fanstuff links for days, why hasn't somebody put them back? I would, but if it were a good idea to, somebody probably would've already. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:I am against putting the fanstuff links there. People should just visit fanstuff themselves. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 14:05, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Well, you ''can'' just go to the external links part of the side template, true, but it might be easier to have direct links on the bottom of the page. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:So what, we have to be actively posting here all the time saying "I still don't want the fanstuff links there" after the discussion seems settled? OK, to make it explicit: I think they should not be there, and I will continue to think they should not be there until such a time as I specifically post saying otherwise. Until then, take it as read that I am posting here regularly saying they should not be there. {{User:phlip/sig}} 16:02, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== 9.1 intro ==

Can anyone remember what game this is parodying? Where it shows the castle and then pans across to the character standing on a rock.

I remember this from a NES game I used to own but cant remember what :(

:Some Megaman games have it... - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 11:40, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::There's also the some what popular Sega game Rocket Night Adventures, and it looks alomost just like that, except he looks at the kingdom then a giant pig head appears and laughs. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

== Level 8 ==

I know people have commented on the whole level 7,-0,9 thing. I think I has the solution. After Level 10, TBC are likely to go back and do a level 8 as somewhat of a lost level. I'm dissapointed there was no swimming level, so this might be where it comes in ( Level 10 defenitely won't be such a level. I'll bet anyone my entire life savings [being $8.42] that 10 will be a Bowser's Keep type deal)---[[User:RatherAnnoying]]
: Level -0 ''is'' level 8, just not called that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:06, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Cutscene Before 9.3 ==

So, doesn't anyone think that noting that there is no cutscene before 9.3 is too obvious? There's no cutscene before An Ice Machine either, and nobody cared about that! Who put that fact up, anyway? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 00:34, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I agree. We should either put both facts up, or none of 'em. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:13, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Easter Eggs==

:I know it wouldn't do much, but to help clean up, couldnt we move the easter eggs onto the levels in which they're on? For instance, for the "snot bubble" easter egg, couldnt we just keep that on the "Oh! The moon!" page? --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:11, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I don't think we need the snot bubble one there. We already recorded it on [[Stinkoman 20X6 Playable Characters]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Stinkoman Labels ==

Personally, I think there should be some kind of consistency among the level titles. If we are to change the level 8's to level -0's, we should do that throughout the entire page and not just to one of the titles. I changed it back because, having two dashes -0-9 doesnt' exactly look pretty, and it would look even worse if we had (-0)-9, as I had seen once before (if my memory serves me right). Please accept my apologies but I will change it back to the way I had it for the aformentioned reason. If it is deemed better to have all level 8 labels turned into -0 label, then it should be done across the board. Thanks.--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:36, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:My vote is too change all '''-0''' tags into '''8'''s. I find the -0 title confusing when being used among other levels. This is probably especially true for newbies. 8 is just much simpler. And it's not entirely inaccurate either - Level 8 ''is'' called Level 8 in the Stinkomanual. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: But the ''game itself'' calls it Level -0. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:47, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: To me that says that the game creators (that would be TBC) both call it level 8 and level -0. However, my first issue still stands: ''consistency''. Having several titles call it level 8 and only one or two (or even half) level -0 is inconsistent and looks bad. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:50, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::: Do we have titles that call it level 8? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: We go by -0. I don't understand why people care about it. We go by the official site, and the site calls it -0. Oh, and I think the walkthrough says -0/8. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 17:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: To answer my own question, we did. I came up with a solution that not only fixed that, but also fixes the "double hyphen" problem. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: What the walkthrough says doesn't matter - it can be changed. Basically, the official site calls it -0 '''AND''' 8. So we could go either way without "official site relevance" problems. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: Yes, this is true, but one is in the manual (which has lots of other intentional mistakes) and the other is in the game itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::I was gonna post this till you guys beat me to it (twice! I had 2 edit conflicts):
::::::''Pretty much every main title that refers to it under Trivia, remarks (before the change) and inside references. There is a snippet in the flash [[Stinkoman_20X6#General|information]] that calls it episode 8 (this i beleive is original TBC wording) and further below 8/-0, and ... and that's it!
::::: and I like your solution! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:58, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the manual itself is kind of inconsistant. I agree with Jay. And furthermore, I think -0 sums up the level better too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::: Working heavily on the Stinkoman 20X6 levels, I must say -0 is a great inconvience. When we can choose between convient and inconvient, why do we pick the harder one? It seems that TBC used -0 on the level selection screen and "TRY LEVEL" screen and 8 everywhere else. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:02, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Define "everywhere else." All I see was the manual, which was already mentioned, and the "What's New" box from the day before, where they didn't want to give away the new level. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:09, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Not to mention ''" It said "V6.0 EPISODES 1-8" until September 5, 2005, when the ninth level was added."'' Although level and episode are two slightly different things. Yes, I know I'm being slightly repetitive. I do like the new wording a lot though! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Ok, I think that we can live with some itty bitty inconviences in our articles. -0 makes much more sense than 8, and is called -0 on the site. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:59, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::I don't exactly see what you're talking about with -0 making more sense. -0 is much more inconvenient than 8, and we've already established that TBC call it both. I vote '''8'''. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:13, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

== The shadow ==

:anyone thinking about who the end boss is going to be?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:59, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6

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== XML ==

Did anyone notice that you can download and edit the XML files to create new levels? This could be good for the Fanstuff Wiki, if anyone gets it working. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

- Care to share where they are? :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:05, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, I think you have to edit the flash file to get them to work offline first (which is not too hard). They are at:

[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.3.3.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/stinkogame.swf]

Those are the ones I found in my temp folder (even though I didn't get to those levels). If you go to ''View'' -> ''Page Source'' in Firefox, you can kinda figure out how it works (maybe). --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
''Edit: Darn, the links don't work. They are in some other folder. Once I figure out the folder name, the game will work offline. And they don't show up on Google yet.''

Ooh - found it - They're in another folder called "levelData."
[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

-As a note for other people wanting to edit, you need to get the 5 level files, the main swf, and the object library: [http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/objectLibrary.swf]. (You can see some game graphics if you view that file)

It's a pretty simple almost-XML format, I'm making a level editor for it now.
[[User:Travis Wells|Travis Wells]]

:Woah. New enemy in that library. If anything confirms another set of levels coming up, that would. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:07, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Hey, I was just about to make a level editor for it, but it probably won't be very good. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

:Hey, if you decompile the flash file for the game you'll see there is already a level editor in there on the script for sprite 761. Unfortunately I don't know anything about flash, so I don't know what to do with that, or how to get to it, but someone must.

:I'm working on an editor written in VB using the MSXML library. --[[User:ackicantthinkofaname|breadtangle]] 18:30, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
I know all about Flash, but I don't have a decompiler -NonHacka

'''NOTE:''' With the release of Stinkoman 20X6 v6, those links have become outdated. The new ones are [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|here]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:48, 4 August 2005 (BST) '''EDIT:''' Moved all links to my user page.

Arghh...I Made the installation program but i need a site to upload it onto.
Can someone tell me one? --- [[User:Pertmywert|[[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]]]
:[mailto:phlipping@yahoo.com Email] it to me and I'll host it for you, if you'd like. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 08:02, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
::http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install.exe --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:28, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

::: Thanks philip for hosting it but remember i made it[[User:Pertmywert|Joel]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]

:::: Pertmywert has sent me the new version: http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install_v3.exe - I'll keep the v2 one up incase anyone's interested. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 23:44, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

I already have a great working editor for this game, a new version has just been released. Check it out here: http://www.geocities.com/joesarcade/stinkoman.zip or here: http://joesarcade.hopto.org:8093/stinkoman.zip

Can someone please make a level editor compatible with MacOS?--[[User:Darklinkskywalker|Darklinkskywalker]] 20:38, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

*OH WHAT THE CRAP!!!! Do need Flash or something for this? Not Flash Player, but the animator thingie? Every time I click on a link it doesnt work!!! PLEASE HELP!!!

:Which links are you trying to click on, the ones in this section, the ones on the [[Stinkoman 20X6]] page, or the ones on my user page? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:50, 4 August 2005 (BST)

== Closed STUFF ==

These Fun Facts were on STUFF and declined. If you want to discuss these facts, please make sure your votes are seperate from the original ones.

===Stlunko===
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.
*'''Decline.''' If this isn't a TTATOT, I don't know what is. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', you're not trying hard enough - I'm sure you could think of lots more bosses that involve fists somehow if you tried... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I usually like these kind of Fun Facts, but it sounds like you're just not trying here. Pick one. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Well, if '''I''' had to pick one, I'd definitely pick the first one; it's what the original one stated, and mentioning only that wouldn't be such a TTATOT. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:23, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
===Rose Blake===
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

*'''Double Decliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiined!''' Seriously, can we stop stretching Fun Facts as far as they can possibly be stretched? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Slightly like? Oh, man! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline for the pudgy! Decline for the pudgy!''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Gimme a D-cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
===Black Spots===
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you look at the bottom of Stinkoman's white area you can see little black lines so this 'fact' is false [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
===Tampo===
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Sleckhund.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:24, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Er...''' The meaning of Tempo might be he is going faster.
*'''Comment''' Or it could also be a reference to tampons... Um, actually, no, forget that I said that.

Dude, Whomever thought of ths had no idea of an alternative. Maybe it's a bad translation. Or he isn't very mean and also doesn't taste very good.

===Brody===
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Panzerschrecken'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:26, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:09, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''-and Ogog, the size is more-or-less in proportion as well.

===Engrish===
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second the Decrine.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:28, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
===Stone Fist===
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I think it is pretty much already stated. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
**And now that more levels are actually coming out, saying more levels will come out is completely useless. [[user: lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' Now that a new level using the stone fist has been released, this is utterly useless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:06, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
===Control Scheme===
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' As a video game lover, I've gotta say that I am pretty used to using the right-most button to jump and the left-most button to fire. Just water this fact down a bit. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Declorne''' Uh... so? [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''Declonomys''' I see no problems with the control screen.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

===Stoves===
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
****Actually, its very likely since plastic, and many fabrics dont decompose at all. The magnetic tape in the casette might have decomposed but that wouldnt have mattered because Stinkoman ate the casette, not played it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:40, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But doesnt a Capital X mean the greek number for 10, and a miniscule x stand for a variable? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:48, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****A capital X signifies a ''Roman'' numeral 10. And variables are ''usually'' lowercase, but if you don't have a character set with upper- and lowercase letters (like most old video games), then you just have to make do with what you got. (See also [[Rabbit Algebra]], which seems to mix the two.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Does anyone else feel that 20X6 is simply a brilliant joke? Don't try to place it into a timeline, just leave it silly, as it is. --J
*'''Decline.''' Does the author of this FF purport to have insider knowledge of TBC's ''fictitious'' world? [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:10, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''I'll quote myself, damnit! just kidding, quote me all you want. But, to reiterate, What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power.--[[User:geoguy91|geoguy91]] 01:06, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Ladder difference ===
{{stufffact|The ladders in level 5.2 look slightly different from those of level 5.1.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:34, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)|19:08, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)|revised and accepted|4|2|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Different Colors ===
{{stufffact|The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)|00:56, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|5|0|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Tiny eye difference ===
{{stufffact|The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)|01:00, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|revised and accepted|5|1|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Liekand's magic powers ===
{{stufffact|Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.}}
{{stuffverdict|12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)|02:15, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|5|0|Stinkoman 20X6}}

== Weird glitch. ==

My brother's a big fan of this game. One day, long ago, we we're checking out the Continue Menu, and ALL THE LEVELS WERE THERE!!!!
My brother noticed the strange thing that happened, and swore that he didn't make all this happen. He didn't have a clue of what was going on. Then I thought, ''This is obviously a rare glitch. I didn't do anything.'' So now when I see "stinkoman level <#>!" on the
main page, I go the game and click "CONTINUE" and I check it out. Pretty cool, huh? I'm just wondering if anyone else expierenced this glitch. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 20:14, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:That's not a glitch. Everyone can access all the levels, at all times. The only time when levels were hidden was when there were only three. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:19, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Well, also, you can't access stage #.2 until you beat #.1. But you can access all of the #.1s at any time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:20, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::Right, forgot about that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:22, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh yeah, and when a new level is released, the previously released one's .2 is now accessible. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]
I see. That's probably also why my grandmother's computer has it too. Oh welll. List of levels my brother hasn't beaten yet:

Levels:

*5.2 (It's pretty hard, my brother can't get though the uptants in a row)

*7.2 (My brother has beaten this level at grandmother's, but when we came back it was gone.)

*8.1 (For some reason, it came out today. My brother can't play it because he's still asleep. That, and the computer can't access the game.)

*8.2 (Ditto.)

Bosses:

*Tampo (Even if it's the first level boss. it was supposed to be easy.)
*Nebulon (If you can't beat the .2 level, you can't see/beat the boss.)
*The Liekand (He has seen it, though.)
*An Ice Machine (Ditto with The Leikand.)
*Unnamed Boss (For the reason he can't play Level 8.)

G'bye. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:17, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

*Well, TBC are assuming you've beat all the levels so far, and doesn't want good players to get frustrated at playing the levels all over again each time stinkoman updates. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 00:56, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Let me get ths straight. You were able to gain access to all of the levels? How did you do it? Were you able to get to level 10? -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 07:51, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
: This is 100% normal. You can reach stage 1 of every level no matter what, at least, since level 4 was released. Of course he wasn't able to get to level 10. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:10, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== XML Page ==

Should we make a page for the stinkoman XML files? --{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 07:44, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:[[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|I already did.]] And it includes the externalSwf files as well. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 12:45, 2 August 2005 (BST)

::I mean a proper page and not a user page like Stinkoman/XML --{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 22:19, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Fall and die?==

I'm playing a web version (from i-am-bored.com), and all that happens is that Stinkoman falls down the screen and dies, no ground, no bosses, WTF is going on?

Don't even acronym swears, and just use the one of Homestar runner.com those web ones are unrealiable. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:My guess is that they only saved stinkogame.swf without the levelData or externalSwf files. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 02:48, 3 August 2005 (BST)

::how can a normal person (like me) save everything onto their (my) computer?--[[User:StrongBad110990|StrongBad110990]] 18:19, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Your best bet is to download [[User:phlip|phlip]]'s Stinkoman 20X6 Cheat Program, then run nocheater.html. You can find it [[Forum:3336|here]]. It's a lot easier than grabbing a list of links from [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|somewhere]], and saving them into the appropriate folders. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:53, 9 August 2005 (BST)

:Look for Venusy's Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman, then download all those files. And another thing; don't use WTF. Use WTC. It makes you sound more like a true Homestar Runner fan.

: I had this happen in the middle of the game while playing from homestarrunner.com . I was at the level 1 boss (the giant brain). I had 2 lives left. I died. When it started over, Stinkoman fell and kept falling. And the game was over. Must've been some kind of glitch I guess.--DrPepperMD 9/24/05.
: I belive I have an answer to why this happens (not 100% sure though), I first saw/played the game on a new(er) computer and it workd fine, but when a tryed to play it on an older computer (that had an out of date flash version) there was no ground. prehaps the version of flash that was the current version when this came out supported the ground that prevented you from falling. just a though.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Strange Storyline==
Well, the storyline's kinda getting dull since Pan-pan was kidnapped. Almost all the levels 4-10 is/will be about rescuing pan-pan (and starting level 7, 1-up too. ) TBC, this is an awesome game, but the story... --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 14:06, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stinkoman is emulating 8-bit platformers. "Rescue Pan-Pan" IS the story. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:01, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Thank you Stinkoman! But our panda is in another castle! ;) --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 17:50, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Besides, as you may have noticed, even Stinkoman admits the plot is utterly predictable. Although, even though the PLOT might be predictable, chances are, if -0 or 3 are any indication, the level scenarios won't be. :) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Another possible Negatory level reference?==
I'm not adding this to the item page, but if someone can verify what I'm remembering and thinks it's useful, then add it to the "Real World References" for the Level -0 (Negatory) world. I seem to remember that in the original NES Metroid, with just an autofiring controller (ah, NES Advantage, we had good times, yes?), you could get wedged in a door, then collapse/expand rapidly and climb up through the wall. If you did this on one particular door, you would go up into a very strange and frankly hazardous area that was all messed up (sounding a lot like that lost Sonic level). It was easy to get stuck, and I don't think any of the doors worked properly. Anyone remember what I'm talking about? If so, it's perhaps another possible reference like that Sonic world, with the advantage that no Game Genie or anything was required to get to it. -- DLR, Aug 3 2005, 1:00pm

:The reference to Hidden Palace is dubious at best. Hidden Palace is nothing like Negatory World. The Game Genie version is such that the entire thing looks like nothing but static (since the HPZ graphics were removed from the final cartridge) and the Sonic 2 Beta version is not glitched, just unfinished. Do you have any links for the Metroid reference? I'm not familiar with that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:32, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Here's one reference: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Metroid#Metroid.27s_Hidden_Worlds Wikipedia: Metroid Talk]. And a [http://www.classicgaming.com/mdb/m1/met-map.txt technical explainer] on Metroid's map structure and why it's a glitch, not a true "hidden area". It's interesting stuff, but admittedly probably not a direct inspiration for the Negatory world. -- DLR, [[User:216.41.87.210|216.41.87.210]] 23:48, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I do think it may be a reference to Hidden Palace, because there are [http://www.sws2b.com/zones/hidden_palace_final screenshots] of it. They do look similar to -0. In both versions, the level is incomplete, but in the beta ROM which I have, the graphics are not messed and it is easier to play. Level 8 more than probably has something to do with this Zone. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 14:53, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I've played HPZ, too, and don't see the resemblance. Neither version is particularly glitchy; one has missing graphics and one has perfect graphics but is ''unfinished''. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:52, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I still like to think that Level -0 is a reference to the 'Glitch City' bug in Pokémon Red/Blue versions. The randomly generated graphics are similar, as is the ability to defy the game's physics (example: Stinkoman can stand on the air at the beginning of the lever, and you could Surf through solid objects in the Glitch City bug). Also, there are many points in Glitch City where your character could become trapped in a place that seems solid, just like the opening cut-scene where Stinkoman was stuck in the wall. TBC have made Pokémon references before (Cheatachu, anyone?), and the glitchy nature of the first Pokémon games are widely known. Now, I wouldn't go so far as to compare Ekersby with Missingno., but the parallels between Level -0 and Glitch City are very similar.
But, with all that in mind, Super Mario Bros.'s Minus World was still the first thing to come to mind. Glitch City occurred to me just as soon as I started playing the level. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

BUT, in the Sonic 2 Beta ROM, act 2 of HPZ puts you stuck inside a wall. That MUST have ''something'' to do with it. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 18:01, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stuck inside a wall comes from Minus World. You know, Minus World, Negatory Level... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:19, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

But you're not '''stuck''' in it, you slide through it until you come out the other side. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:02, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

And Stinkoman doesn't slide through the wall to get out, he Stinkoblasts (is that a good name?) it. Wonder what that might be a reference to? --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 02:07, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== This might need archival ==

Am I the only one who thinks the talk page on here is getting a LITTLE too big for its britches? I mean, cripes, look at the length of the TOC. That's pretty ridiculous; one entire page of scrolling down before you actually reach text. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 01:36, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I vote for moving everything that hasn't been changed since the start of July or so to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive]] or somesuch... I can do it now if noone else wants to. {{User:phlip/sig}} 04:39, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::I concur. It really is too long. Go right ahead and archive it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
If this does get archived (<s>and I'm not necessarily saying it should</s>), you shouldn't move the threads based on date. You should move the ones that should have been posted on the forum. Anything related to actually maintaining the page (for example, closed STUFF), should stay. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:56, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Okay, so after a second viewing under the tutelage of Pom Pom's keen eyes, I see that most of this page is idle chatter. I'm all for archiving it. But, like I said before, anything wiki-related should stay, no matter the date. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:02, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

There we go... Everthing here has been edited recently or is (IMO) still relevant... I might have been a bit overzealous, feel free to move anything back if need be. (I got edit conflicted with your message, IDC, I'll take another look soon, I just want to get this edit in) {{User:phlip/sig}} 05:20, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I've made the archives cleaner. Please feel free to add templates and keep moving more pages. I am done for now and since it's 4:20 I need to go to bed! Please also read what I posted on the [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#Messy_Page|Messy Page]] section for those who are concerned about that. Good night! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:23, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Levls to co me ==

I've noticed that there is aglitched up "more levels to come" sign at teh end of level -0. Plesae picture! --anony

I've noticed thatyou are "not logged in" so y dont u log in. Plesae log in! --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:48, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ha! Good one! Anyway, COME is spelled C OME on that screen, not CO ME. And the music that usually plays on the normal, non-glitched version stutters frequently, or so it seems, because I seek-bar'd my way to that screen, and it stuttered like that. It's all like, (mocking music) "bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow", etc. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 01:49, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Level 9 ==

What do you think level nine will be? My guess is an underwater bored.

It could also be underground cave. I hope level 10 is something like "''The Doomsday Zone''" from "''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''" --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:51, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I've got a few good ones. One is "The castle" or "Spelunking" or "Candyland" or even "The desert," or "The swamp". [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

Or maybe it'll be a "flying through the jungle level". Turbolence sounds like the kinda name for a level like that. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 10:03, 29 Aug 2005 (CST)

==The Flow==

I've noticed that owhen you start level 1.2 (maybe the others work as well) on the TRY LEVEL! screen, it says something about YOU GOTTA GO WITH THE FLOW or something like that. I can't read it cause it flashes too fast. Can anyone get a snapshot of it? — {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:41, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Two Questions==

I just got a seek bar, and I was looking around in the Flash file. Here are some questions:
#Is the music meant to skip like that at the "MORE LEVELS TO COME" (in this case, "MORE LEVLS TO C OME") screen, or is it because I was messing around?
#<del>Where in the Flash file is Undefined.Undefined?</del> Found it.
--[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 01:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's meant to sound like that - since it comes just after the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0|glitch level]]. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:52, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Oh. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 02:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Astromund trash can lid? ==

I don't really know, this is a real stretch. I remember when I was a kid I used to play this MS-DOS game callled: "Math Rescue". It was about numbers being stolen by these aleins called gruzzles, but you could take hits without dying if you had trash can lids, used as shields. Does that have relation to the Stinkomanuel? [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

== Undefined.Undefined? ==

Where the heck is that level? I can't find it!

Do you have a seek bar? If you don't, you'll need to get one to be able to view that level. Why do you need to? It's just a grey hole. Oh and by the way... Where the heck do I get a seek bar? I can't find one! I've tried downloading it before but it just says "No scripatable flash on this page." --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:43, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Bookmark the button, or for you <shaking-green-text>Internet Explorer</shaking-green-text> users, add it to your favorites. Then go around to the end of the flash file, and you'll find Undefined.Undefined. And it's not a grey hole, it's a black hole. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 20:50, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I added it to my favorites (bookmarks on firefox, but that's on my other 'puter still won't work) but nothing happens! How do I get it to work? --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:46, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

You have IE? Cuz then you have to add the Seek Bar for IE to your favorites. And you can't use it on the swf.

I have IE 5, Netscape 7, and Firefox 1.0.6 but on fire fox, I add it to my personal toolbar, and when I'm on the page, I click it, and it replies, once again, with "No scriptable flash on this page". And it says IE for WINDOWS, not Mac, so I can't get it to work. I try and try but nothing happens.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 00:06, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I just moved the seek bar to the same position as the s in characters and all the music started playing, what looked like part of the object library was on the screen, and even part of the flash for ekersby sprites morphing. I dunno what the seek bar has against the game and the games menu, but it's so weird. [[User:Seek Bar|Seek Bar]]

I have a seek bar, but how do I use it? I click it on my personal toolbar bookmarks when I go to the stinkogame.html on homestarrunner.com, but I can't get it to work. Why is that? --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 23:39, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Am I supposed to drag the seek bar from bookmarks to the web page? hurry up and answer plz, I'm impatient. I have it on Netscape, Mozilla, and IE.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 00:09, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Hmm... why don't you test it out to see if that's what you're supposed to do... In other words, yes, you drag it. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 01:19, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Still didn't work. Are they Mac compatible? {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== New from Brother Chaps. Inc.!! ==

NEW STINKOMAN LEVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put it up on the main page so every one knows, please. --Anony

THAT'S KINDA OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We always put that kinda stuff on the [[Template:whatsnew|whatsnew template]] {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:00, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Shots ==

The firey shots now go strait, no longer going down while going forward.
: Not entirely true; they do drop a little, but they also go full-screen instead of just a short distance like they used to. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:53, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== How many hits? ==

How many freakin' hits does it take to kill Harvax?

:13 or 14. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 23:08, 5 September 2005 (BST)

Thank you. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

== Version 7.0 - 7.1 ==

Did anybody notice when the notice in the bottom right corner changed from 7.0 to 7.1? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 09:27, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I did. Maybe it was a smalll update, like a bug fix or a stinkomanual update. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I believe 7.1 was a bug fixing version. From memory, it corrected level -0.4 from showing up after defeating Ekersby. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:09, 7 September 2005 (BST)

==I can't find the 9.3 boss!==

Whenever i reach the flag, nothing happens and I just keep flying through an infinite level! Anybody have any idea whats going on/what to do?

I've had this problem, but only on the cheat version. I have absolutely NO idea of what's going on. I had a theory but forgot it. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:26, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== ...The new punching?! ==

Who else here doesn't like the new punching?? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]
:heh? what do you mean by "new punching"?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:55, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

== Messy Page ==
The whole fun fact section of this page is a mess. I'm thinking we need to delete some facts, maybe move some pages, stuff like that. Like individual boss fun facts chould go in their own section in the enemies page. And I think a page should be set up of a list of all the "Try Level" "Game Over" and "More Levels To Come" scenes. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

:It is a bit messy. I'll try sweeping the floor.
:...
:But seriously, yea. Too much info. We need to have a [[garage sale]] or something. I'll maybe try to do a bit of work on the page. Probably a few more Fun Facts subsections are needed, as well as maybe an 'updates section', for the little things they change every time they update. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:07, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::The fun facts should be split into levels wherever possible, and a bunch of other changes. I was kinda waiting for the game to be finished before proposing any radical alterations. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Would it be okay to remove all of the "when the game was first made, it was like this. it was later changed" type messages? Shouldn't the guide just talk about how the game is now?--DrPepperMD

::We have precedent for keeping records of when things change, but that's mostly because the toons and such don't change often - this game changes regularly... Perhaps split them off to yet another page? I'm willing to do that now if there's no objections. {{User:phlip/sig}} 03:56, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I had another look - I don't think there are enough "in a previous version..." facts to warrant its own page, but I still don't think they should be removed. Perhaps group them all together under a "changes" heading or something... {{User:phlip/sig}} 11:10, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:'''Hi!''' I have two points I'd like to talk about (sorry, I'm not really mentioning anything new).
:*This TALK page is indeed still messy. I think we should archive ''again'' everything except the Closed (STUFF), XML and couple of most recent (like level 9) conversations. Oh! and this section of course. I'd do it, but um, I hate to ask... how do you archive things again?
::*The Main page has its archives broken in pieces of 20, and has its own template and everything, I think this talk page merits that kind of organization.
:*Um yeah the page is kinda bloated. I was thinking making actual ''level'' pages for most stuff (we already have the walkthroughs, which the level pages can point to) like [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. I think it's doable at least for the early stages, and since the game is presumably nearly complete. That or Real World references should have its own page. So what should it be, individual level pages or Real World references? :D
::*Organizing the page now, will save us the headache of updating it later, when it's even more bloated. Adding to a new infrastructure isn't necessarily that much harder.
: Thank you guys for your time!
: --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:50, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
: I have organized the talk [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#This_might_need_archival|archives]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:24, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I definitely like the separate Real World References page! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:38, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I have reorganized some of the sections, is it clean enough to remove the cleanup tag? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:24, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::It is not even close to being clean. You have been doing a '''great''' jorb on this, but it is still to big for its own good. We should probably take out the updates and break the FFs into smaller sections. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Some good examples of shortening is that we need to make either A: A Big Fun fact page or B: Seperate articles for all the facts and references.

== ??!!Stinkomanuel!!?? ==

It-It's at level 5 again!!! What the crap just happened?!? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]

== REALLY SLOW ==
This game runs REEEAAALLY slow on my computer! Does anyone else have that problem? Even at school on P4 computers it seems slow. What kind of computers do you need to play this? [[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 19:43, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff bad? ==

What's wrong with the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman 20X6 - CUSTOM LEVELS|fanstuff]] [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION|links]]? [[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] says it's "wiki policy," but I don't see anything against fanstuff in the [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]]. {{User:Trogga/sig}}
:I agree with you. It's "External Links", not "H*R Links." But I can see why some wouldn't like it. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

::I'm not sure exactly where I read it, but you can take it to the administrators if you want. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 18:49, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure you read it in an old discussion of the page - where an admin said that no fanstuff related ''pages'' and ''fun facts'' should be made. (i.e. a guide to custom levels; a factoid on how you can do something with a cheat version) - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
::If I remember correctly it was a sysop edit summary just a few days ago, but if you really want to add it again, I'll stop reverting. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 19:00, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Here's examples I found. These may be what you are talking about: [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive#Add an article on custom levels.3F|here]] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&diff=138917&oldid=138711 here]. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 19:02, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

We don't link to fanstuff because (1) as a knowledge base, we should only list official sources as external links, (2) we don't have any real info on fanstuff nor do we have any control of its content, and (3) if we allowed person A's fanstuff on this page, then we'd have to allow the fanstuff of persons B, C, D, E, and everyone else on all the other pages, and that is not the point of this wiki, nor should keeping up with and policing things like that be one of our chores. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:46, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

You're Insane, man! I liked those links! Besides, Trogga and Joshua are right! Those links were useful, Fanstuff or not! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:The cheat version may be bad, but the custom levels are public fanstuff from multiple users, and I think they should stay. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

Any glitches that can only be accessed with the cheat version or in custom levels should be treated like out-of-the-frame glitches in the toons - they were not intended to be seen by the public, so there's no reason to allow for them. That is, if there's something that happens because something is not specifically catered for (eg 1-Up kicking a Stafulter) it should not be mentioned here (though it could be mentioned on the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION#Quirks|fanstuff entry's page]]). If there is something intentional that can only be accessed this way (like the cabbage enemy was) then it should be mentioned, as a remark or as appropriate on another Stinkoman 20X6 page. Linking to the custom levels here would in my mind be the same as linking to [[HRFWiki:Other Character Email|Other Character Email]] or suchlike from the [[Strong Bad Email]] page, and would easily set a precedent for every fanstuff (or even just each category of fanstuff would be bad enough) being linked to from the H*R thing it was inspired by. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:09, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

But what's the point of (fanstuff) interwiki links if we're not going to use them? {{User:Trogga/sig}}

Yeah, if we're not supposed to link to fanstuff, then, ''Oh! Why don't we'' '''blow the fanstuff link off the face of that side template thingy''' if we're "not supposed to link to fanstuff"! See? it's ridiculous!! Take ''that'', It's dot com! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:There's a difference between "linking to the fanstuff site from this site" to "linking to a fanstuff page ''from an article'' on this site" - the ''articles'' are supposed to make a ''knowledge base'' containing ''facts'' about ''H*R''. However the site as a whole contains the knowledge base, the forum, the fanstuff, the chat channel, etc... so links between them ''outside the articles themselves'' are still good. {{User:phlip/sig}}

:Take it easy, FaceCrap. It's not an extremely good idea to talk like that. — {{User:Lapper/sig}}

:Yeah, I guess not. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

So,''anyway'', if no one's said anything against the Fanstuff links for days, why hasn't somebody put them back? I would, but if it were a good idea to, somebody probably would've already. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:I am against putting the fanstuff links there. People should just visit fanstuff themselves. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 14:05, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Well, you ''can'' just go to the external links part of the side template, true, but it might be easier to have direct links on the bottom of the page. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:So what, we have to be actively posting here all the time saying "I still don't want the fanstuff links there" after the discussion seems settled? OK, to make it explicit: I think they should not be there, and I will continue to think they should not be there until such a time as I specifically post saying otherwise. Until then, take it as read that I am posting here regularly saying they should not be there. {{User:phlip/sig}} 16:02, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== 9.1 intro ==

Can anyone remember what game this is parodying? Where it shows the castle and then pans across to the character standing on a rock.

I remember this from a NES game I used to own but cant remember what :(

:Some Megaman games have it... - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 11:40, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::There's also the some what popular Sega game Rocket Night Adventures, and it looks alomost just like that, except he looks at the kingdom then a giant pig head appears and laughs. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

== Level 8 ==

I know people have commented on the whole level 7,-0,9 thing. I think I has the solution. After Level 10, TBC are likely to go back and do a level 8 as somewhat of a lost level. I'm dissapointed there was no swimming level, so this might be where it comes in ( Level 10 defenitely won't be such a level. I'll bet anyone my entire life savings [being $8.42] that 10 will be a Bowser's Keep type deal)---[[User:RatherAnnoying]]
: Level -0 ''is'' level 8, just not called that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:06, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Cutscene Before 9.3 ==

So, doesn't anyone think that noting that there is no cutscene before 9.3 is too obvious? There's no cutscene before An Ice Machine either, and nobody cared about that! Who put that fact up, anyway? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 00:34, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I agree. We should either put both facts up, or none of 'em. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:13, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Easter Eggs==

:I know it wouldn't do much, but to help clean up, couldnt we move the easter eggs onto the levels in which they're on? For instance, for the "snot bubble" easter egg, couldnt we just keep that on the "Oh! The moon!" page? --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:11, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I don't think we need the snot bubble one there. We already recorded it on [[Stinkoman 20X6 Playable Characters]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Stinkoman Labels ==

Personally, I think there should be some kind of consistency among the level titles. If we are to change the level 8's to level -0's, we should do that throughout the entire page and not just to one of the titles. I changed it back because, having two dashes -0-9 doesnt' exactly look pretty, and it would look even worse if we had (-0)-9, as I had seen once before (if my memory serves me right). Please accept my apologies but I will change it back to the way I had it for the aformentioned reason. If it is deemed better to have all level 8 labels turned into -0 label, then it should be done across the board. Thanks.--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:36, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:My vote is too change all '''-0''' tags into '''8'''s. I find the -0 title confusing when being used among other levels. This is probably especially true for newbies. 8 is just much simpler. And it's not entirely inaccurate either - Level 8 ''is'' called Level 8 in the Stinkomanual. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: But the ''game itself'' calls it Level -0. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:47, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: To me that says that the game creators (that would be TBC) both call it level 8 and level -0. However, my first issue still stands: ''consistency''. Having several titles call it level 8 and only one or two (or even half) level -0 is inconsistent and looks bad. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:50, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::: Do we have titles that call it level 8? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: We go by -0. I don't understand why people care about it. We go by the official site, and the site calls it -0. Oh, and I think the walkthrough says -0/8. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 17:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: To answer my own question, we did. I came up with a solution that not only fixed that, but also fixes the "double hyphen" problem. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: What the walkthrough says doesn't matter - it can be changed. Basically, the official site calls it -0 '''AND''' 8. So we could go either way without "official site relevance" problems. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: Yes, this is true, but one is in the manual (which has lots of other intentional mistakes) and the other is in the game itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::I was gonna post this till you guys beat me to it (twice! I had 2 edit conflicts):
::::::''Pretty much every main title that refers to it under Trivia, remarks (before the change) and inside references. There is a snippet in the flash [[Stinkoman_20X6#General|information]] that calls it episode 8 (this i beleive is original TBC wording) and further below 8/-0, and ... and that's it!
::::: and I like your solution! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:58, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the manual itself is kind of inconsistant. I agree with Jay. And furthermore, I think -0 sums up the level better too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::: Working heavily on the Stinkoman 20X6 levels, I must say -0 is a great inconvience. When we can choose between convient and inconvient, why do we pick the harder one? It seems that TBC used -0 on the level selection screen and "TRY LEVEL" screen and 8 everywhere else. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:02, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Define "everywhere else." All I see was the manual, which was already mentioned, and the "What's New" box from the day before, where they didn't want to give away the new level. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:09, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Not to mention ''" It said "V6.0 EPISODES 1-8" until September 5, 2005, when the ninth level was added."'' Although level and episode are two slightly different things. Yes, I know I'm being slightly repetitive. I do like the new wording a lot though! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Ok, I think that we can live with some itty bitty inconviences in our articles. -0 makes much more sense than 8, and is called -0 on the site. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:59, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::I don't exactly see what you're talking about with -0 making more sense. -0 is much more inconvenient than 8, and we've already established that TBC call it both. I vote '''8'''. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:13, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Stinkoman 20X6

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== XML ==

Did anyone notice that you can download and edit the XML files to create new levels? This could be good for the Fanstuff Wiki, if anyone gets it working. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

- Care to share where they are? :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:05, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, I think you have to edit the flash file to get them to work offline first (which is not too hard). They are at:

[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.3.3.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/stinkogame.swf]

Those are the ones I found in my temp folder (even though I didn't get to those levels). If you go to ''View'' -> ''Page Source'' in Firefox, you can kinda figure out how it works (maybe). --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
''Edit: Darn, the links don't work. They are in some other folder. Once I figure out the folder name, the game will work offline. And they don't show up on Google yet.''

Ooh - found it - They're in another folder called "levelData."
[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

-As a note for other people wanting to edit, you need to get the 5 level files, the main swf, and the object library: [http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/objectLibrary.swf]. (You can see some game graphics if you view that file)

It's a pretty simple almost-XML format, I'm making a level editor for it now.
[[User:Travis Wells|Travis Wells]]

:Woah. New enemy in that library. If anything confirms another set of levels coming up, that would. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:07, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Hey, I was just about to make a level editor for it, but it probably won't be very good. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

:Hey, if you decompile the flash file for the game you'll see there is already a level editor in there on the script for sprite 761. Unfortunately I don't know anything about flash, so I don't know what to do with that, or how to get to it, but someone must.

:I'm working on an editor written in VB using the MSXML library. --[[User:ackicantthinkofaname|breadtangle]] 18:30, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
I know all about Flash, but I don't have a decompiler -NonHacka

'''NOTE:''' With the release of Stinkoman 20X6 v6, those links have become outdated. The new ones are [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|here]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:48, 4 August 2005 (BST) '''EDIT:''' Moved all links to my user page.

Arghh...I Made the installation program but i need a site to upload it onto.
Can someone tell me one? --- [[User:Pertmywert|[[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]]]
:[mailto:phlipping@yahoo.com Email] it to me and I'll host it for you, if you'd like. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 08:02, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
::http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install.exe --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:28, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

::: Thanks philip for hosting it but remember i made it[[User:Pertmywert|Joel]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]

:::: Pertmywert has sent me the new version: http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install_v3.exe - I'll keep the v2 one up incase anyone's interested. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 23:44, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

I already have a great working editor for this game, a new version has just been released. Check it out here: http://www.geocities.com/joesarcade/stinkoman.zip or here: http://joesarcade.hopto.org:8093/stinkoman.zip

Can someone please make a level editor compatible with MacOS?--[[User:Darklinkskywalker|Darklinkskywalker]] 20:38, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

*OH WHAT THE CRAP!!!! Do need Flash or something for this? Not Flash Player, but the animator thingie? Every time I click on a link it doesnt work!!! PLEASE HELP!!!

:Which links are you trying to click on, the ones in this section, the ones on the [[Stinkoman 20X6]] page, or the ones on my user page? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:50, 4 August 2005 (BST)

== Closed STUFF ==

These Fun Facts were on STUFF and declined. If you want to discuss these facts, please make sure your votes are seperate from the original ones.

===Stlunko===
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.
*'''Decline.''' If this isn't a TTATOT, I don't know what is. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', you're not trying hard enough - I'm sure you could think of lots more bosses that involve fists somehow if you tried... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I usually like these kind of Fun Facts, but it sounds like you're just not trying here. Pick one. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Well, if '''I''' had to pick one, I'd definitely pick the first one; it's what the original one stated, and mentioning only that wouldn't be such a TTATOT. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:23, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
===Rose Blake===
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

*'''Double Decliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiined!''' Seriously, can we stop stretching Fun Facts as far as they can possibly be stretched? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Slightly like? Oh, man! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline for the pudgy! Decline for the pudgy!''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Gimme a D-cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
===Black Spots===
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you look at the bottom of Stinkoman's white area you can see little black lines so this 'fact' is false [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
===Tampo===
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Sleckhund.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:24, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Er...''' The meaning of Tempo might be he is going faster.
*'''Comment''' Or it could also be a reference to tampons... Um, actually, no, forget that I said that.

Dude, Whomever thought of ths had no idea of an alternative. Maybe it's a bad translation. Or he isn't very mean and also doesn't taste very good.

===Brody===
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Panzerschrecken'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:26, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:09, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''-and Ogog, the size is more-or-less in proportion as well.

===Engrish===
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second the Decrine.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:28, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
===Stone Fist===
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I think it is pretty much already stated. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
**And now that more levels are actually coming out, saying more levels will come out is completely useless. [[user: lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' Now that a new level using the stone fist has been released, this is utterly useless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:06, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
===Control Scheme===
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' As a video game lover, I've gotta say that I am pretty used to using the right-most button to jump and the left-most button to fire. Just water this fact down a bit. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Declorne''' Uh... so? [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''Declonomys''' I see no problems with the control screen.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

===Stoves===
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
****Actually, its very likely since plastic, and many fabrics dont decompose at all. The magnetic tape in the casette might have decomposed but that wouldnt have mattered because Stinkoman ate the casette, not played it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:40, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But doesnt a Capital X mean the greek number for 10, and a miniscule x stand for a variable? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:48, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****A capital X signifies a ''Roman'' numeral 10. And variables are ''usually'' lowercase, but if you don't have a character set with upper- and lowercase letters (like most old video games), then you just have to make do with what you got. (See also [[Rabbit Algebra]], which seems to mix the two.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Does anyone else feel that 20X6 is simply a brilliant joke? Don't try to place it into a timeline, just leave it silly, as it is. --J
*'''Decline.''' Does the author of this FF purport to have insider knowledge of TBC's ''fictitious'' world? [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:10, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''I'll quote myself, damnit! just kidding, quote me all you want. But, to reiterate, What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power.--[[User:geoguy91|geoguy91]] 01:06, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Ladder difference ===
{{stufffact|The ladders in level 5.2 look slightly different from those of level 5.1.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:34, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)|19:08, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)|revised and accepted|4|2|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Different Colors ===
{{stufffact|The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)|00:56, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|5|0|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Tiny eye difference ===
{{stufffact|The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)|01:00, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|revised and accepted|5|1|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Liekand's magic powers ===
{{stufffact|Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.}}
{{stuffverdict|12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)|02:15, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|5|0|Stinkoman 20X6}}

== Weird glitch. ==

My brother's a big fan of this game. One day, long ago, we we're checking out the Continue Menu, and ALL THE LEVELS WERE THERE!!!!
My brother noticed the strange thing that happened, and swore that he didn't make all this happen. He didn't have a clue of what was going on. Then I thought, ''This is obviously a rare glitch. I didn't do anything.'' So now when I see "stinkoman level <#>!" on the
main page, I go the game and click "CONTINUE" and I check it out. Pretty cool, huh? I'm just wondering if anyone else expierenced this glitch. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 20:14, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:That's not a glitch. Everyone can access all the levels, at all times. The only time when levels were hidden was when there were only three. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:19, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Well, also, you can't access stage #.2 until you beat #.1. But you can access all of the #.1s at any time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:20, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::Right, forgot about that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:22, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh yeah, and when a new level is released, the previously released one's .2 is now accessible. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]
I see. That's probably also why my grandmother's computer has it too. Oh welll. List of levels my brother hasn't beaten yet:

Levels:

*5.2 (It's pretty hard, my brother can't get though the uptants in a row)

*7.2 (My brother has beaten this level at grandmother's, but when we came back it was gone.)

*8.1 (For some reason, it came out today. My brother can't play it because he's still asleep. That, and the computer can't access the game.)

*8.2 (Ditto.)

Bosses:

*Tampo (Even if it's the first level boss. it was supposed to be easy.)
*Nebulon (If you can't beat the .2 level, you can't see/beat the boss.)
*The Liekand (He has seen it, though.)
*An Ice Machine (Ditto with The Leikand.)
*Unnamed Boss (For the reason he can't play Level 8.)

G'bye. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:17, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

*Well, TBC are assuming you've beat all the levels so far, and doesn't want good players to get frustrated at playing the levels all over again each time stinkoman updates. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 00:56, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Let me get ths straight. You were able to gain access to all of the levels? How did you do it? Were you able to get to level 10? -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 07:51, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
: This is 100% normal. You can reach stage 1 of every level no matter what, at least, since level 4 was released. Of course he wasn't able to get to level 10. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:10, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== XML Page ==

Should we make a page for the stinkoman XML files? --{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 07:44, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:[[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|I already did.]] And it includes the externalSwf files as well. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 12:45, 2 August 2005 (BST)

::I mean a proper page and not a user page like Stinkoman/XML --{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 22:19, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Fall and die?==

I'm playing a web version (from i-am-bored.com), and all that happens is that Stinkoman falls down the screen and dies, no ground, no bosses, WTF is going on?

Don't even acronym swears, and just use the one of Homestar runner.com those web ones are unrealiable. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:My guess is that they only saved stinkogame.swf without the levelData or externalSwf files. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 02:48, 3 August 2005 (BST)

::how can a normal person (like me) save everything onto their (my) computer?--[[User:StrongBad110990|StrongBad110990]] 18:19, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Your best bet is to download [[User:phlip|phlip]]'s Stinkoman 20X6 Cheat Program, then run nocheater.html. You can find it [[Forum:3336|here]]. It's a lot easier than grabbing a list of links from [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|somewhere]], and saving them into the appropriate folders. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:53, 9 August 2005 (BST)

:Look for Venusy's Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman, then download all those files. And another thing; don't use WTF. Use WTC. It makes you sound more like a true Homestar Runner fan.

: I had this happen in the middle of the game while playing from homestarrunner.com . I was at the level 1 boss (the giant brain). I had 2 lives left. I died. When it started over, Stinkoman fell and kept falling. And the game was over. Must've been some kind of glitch I guess.--DrPepperMD 9/24/05.
: I belive I have an answer to why this happens (not 100% sure though), I first saw/played the game on a new(er) computer and it workd fine, but when a tryed to play it on an older computer (that had an out of date flash version) there was no ground. prehaps the version of flash that was the current version when this came out supported the ground that prevented you from falling. just a though.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

==Strange Storyline==
Well, the storyline's kinda getting dull since Pan-pan was kidnapped. Almost all the levels 4-10 is/will be about rescuing pan-pan (and starting level 7, 1-up too. ) TBC, this is an awesome game, but the story... --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 14:06, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stinkoman is emulating 8-bit platformers. "Rescue Pan-Pan" IS the story. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:01, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Thank you Stinkoman! But our panda is in another castle! ;) --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 17:50, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Besides, as you may have noticed, even Stinkoman admits the plot is utterly predictable. Although, even though the PLOT might be predictable, chances are, if -0 or 3 are any indication, the level scenarios won't be. :) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Another possible Negatory level reference?==
I'm not adding this to the item page, but if someone can verify what I'm remembering and thinks it's useful, then add it to the "Real World References" for the Level -0 (Negatory) world. I seem to remember that in the original NES Metroid, with just an autofiring controller (ah, NES Advantage, we had good times, yes?), you could get wedged in a door, then collapse/expand rapidly and climb up through the wall. If you did this on one particular door, you would go up into a very strange and frankly hazardous area that was all messed up (sounding a lot like that lost Sonic level). It was easy to get stuck, and I don't think any of the doors worked properly. Anyone remember what I'm talking about? If so, it's perhaps another possible reference like that Sonic world, with the advantage that no Game Genie or anything was required to get to it. -- DLR, Aug 3 2005, 1:00pm

:The reference to Hidden Palace is dubious at best. Hidden Palace is nothing like Negatory World. The Game Genie version is such that the entire thing looks like nothing but static (since the HPZ graphics were removed from the final cartridge) and the Sonic 2 Beta version is not glitched, just unfinished. Do you have any links for the Metroid reference? I'm not familiar with that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:32, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Here's one reference: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Metroid#Metroid.27s_Hidden_Worlds Wikipedia: Metroid Talk]. And a [http://www.classicgaming.com/mdb/m1/met-map.txt technical explainer] on Metroid's map structure and why it's a glitch, not a true "hidden area". It's interesting stuff, but admittedly probably not a direct inspiration for the Negatory world. -- DLR, [[User:216.41.87.210|216.41.87.210]] 23:48, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I do think it may be a reference to Hidden Palace, because there are [http://www.sws2b.com/zones/hidden_palace_final screenshots] of it. They do look similar to -0. In both versions, the level is incomplete, but in the beta ROM which I have, the graphics are not messed and it is easier to play. Level 8 more than probably has something to do with this Zone. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 14:53, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I've played HPZ, too, and don't see the resemblance. Neither version is particularly glitchy; one has missing graphics and one has perfect graphics but is ''unfinished''. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:52, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I still like to think that Level -0 is a reference to the 'Glitch City' bug in Pokémon Red/Blue versions. The randomly generated graphics are similar, as is the ability to defy the game's physics (example: Stinkoman can stand on the air at the beginning of the lever, and you could Surf through solid objects in the Glitch City bug). Also, there are many points in Glitch City where your character could become trapped in a place that seems solid, just like the opening cut-scene where Stinkoman was stuck in the wall. TBC have made Pokémon references before (Cheatachu, anyone?), and the glitchy nature of the first Pokémon games are widely known. Now, I wouldn't go so far as to compare Ekersby with Missingno., but the parallels between Level -0 and Glitch City are very similar.
But, with all that in mind, Super Mario Bros.'s Minus World was still the first thing to come to mind. Glitch City occurred to me just as soon as I started playing the level. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

BUT, in the Sonic 2 Beta ROM, act 2 of HPZ puts you stuck inside a wall. That MUST have ''something'' to do with it. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 18:01, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stuck inside a wall comes from Minus World. You know, Minus World, Negatory Level... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:19, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

But you're not '''stuck''' in it, you slide through it until you come out the other side. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:02, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

And Stinkoman doesn't slide through the wall to get out, he Stinkoblasts (is that a good name?) it. Wonder what that might be a reference to? --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 02:07, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== This might need archival ==

Am I the only one who thinks the talk page on here is getting a LITTLE too big for its britches? I mean, cripes, look at the length of the TOC. That's pretty ridiculous; one entire page of scrolling down before you actually reach text. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 01:36, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I vote for moving everything that hasn't been changed since the start of July or so to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive]] or somesuch... I can do it now if noone else wants to. {{User:phlip/sig}} 04:39, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::I concur. It really is too long. Go right ahead and archive it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
If this does get archived (<s>and I'm not necessarily saying it should</s>), you shouldn't move the threads based on date. You should move the ones that should have been posted on the forum. Anything related to actually maintaining the page (for example, closed STUFF), should stay. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:56, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Okay, so after a second viewing under the tutelage of Pom Pom's keen eyes, I see that most of this page is idle chatter. I'm all for archiving it. But, like I said before, anything wiki-related should stay, no matter the date. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:02, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

There we go... Everthing here has been edited recently or is (IMO) still relevant... I might have been a bit overzealous, feel free to move anything back if need be. (I got edit conflicted with your message, IDC, I'll take another look soon, I just want to get this edit in) {{User:phlip/sig}} 05:20, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I've made the archives cleaner. Please feel free to add templates and keep moving more pages. I am done for now and since it's 4:20 I need to go to bed! Please also read what I posted on the [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#Messy_Page|Messy Page]] section for those who are concerned about that. Good night! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:23, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Levls to co me ==

I've noticed that there is aglitched up "more levels to come" sign at teh end of level -0. Plesae picture! --anony

I've noticed thatyou are "not logged in" so y dont u log in. Plesae log in! --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:48, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ha! Good one! Anyway, COME is spelled C OME on that screen, not CO ME. And the music that usually plays on the normal, non-glitched version stutters frequently, or so it seems, because I seek-bar'd my way to that screen, and it stuttered like that. It's all like, (mocking music) "bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow", etc. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 01:49, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Level 9 ==

What do you think level nine will be? My guess is an underwater bored.

It could also be underground cave. I hope level 10 is something like "''The Doomsday Zone''" from "''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''" --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:51, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I've got a few good ones. One is "The castle" or "Spelunking" or "Candyland" or even "The desert," or "The swamp". [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

Or maybe it'll be a "flying through the jungle level". Turbolence sounds like the kinda name for a level like that. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 10:03, 29 Aug 2005 (CST)

==The Flow==

I've noticed that owhen you start level 1.2 (maybe the others work as well) on the TRY LEVEL! screen, it says something about YOU GOTTA GO WITH THE FLOW or something like that. I can't read it cause it flashes too fast. Can anyone get a snapshot of it? — {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:41, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Two Questions==

I just got a seek bar, and I was looking around in the Flash file. Here are some questions:
#Is the music meant to skip like that at the "MORE LEVELS TO COME" (in this case, "MORE LEVLS TO C OME") screen, or is it because I was messing around?
#<del>Where in the Flash file is Undefined.Undefined?</del> Found it.
--[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 01:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's meant to sound like that - since it comes just after the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0|glitch level]]. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:52, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Oh. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 02:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Astromund trash can lid? ==

I don't really know, this is a real stretch. I remember when I was a kid I used to play this MS-DOS game callled: "Math Rescue". It was about numbers being stolen by these aleins called gruzzles, but you could take hits without dying if you had trash can lids, used as shields. Does that have relation to the Stinkomanuel? [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

== Undefined.Undefined? ==

Where the heck is that level? I can't find it!

Do you have a seek bar? If you don't, you'll need to get one to be able to view that level. Why do you need to? It's just a grey hole. Oh and by the way... Where the heck do I get a seek bar? I can't find one! I've tried downloading it before but it just says "No scripatable flash on this page." --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:43, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Bookmark the button, or for you <shaking-green-text>Internet Explorer</shaking-green-text> users, add it to your favorites. Then go around to the end of the flash file, and you'll find Undefined.Undefined. And it's not a grey hole, it's a black hole. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 20:50, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I added it to my favorites (bookmarks on firefox, but that's on my other 'puter still won't work) but nothing happens! How do I get it to work? --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:46, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

You have IE? Cuz then you have to add the Seek Bar for IE to your favorites. And you can't use it on the swf.

I have IE 5, Netscape 7, and Firefox 1.0.6 but on fire fox, I add it to my personal toolbar, and when I'm on the page, I click it, and it replies, once again, with "No scriptable flash on this page". And it says IE for WINDOWS, not Mac, so I can't get it to work. I try and try but nothing happens.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 00:06, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I just moved the seek bar to the same position as the s in characters and all the music started playing, what looked like part of the object library was on the screen, and even part of the flash for ekersby sprites morphing. I dunno what the seek bar has against the game and the games menu, but it's so weird. [[User:Seek Bar|Seek Bar]]

I have a seek bar, but how do I use it? I click it on my personal toolbar bookmarks when I go to the stinkogame.html on homestarrunner.com, but I can't get it to work. Why is that? --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 23:39, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Am I supposed to drag the seek bar from bookmarks to the web page? hurry up and answer plz, I'm impatient. I have it on Netscape, Mozilla, and IE.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 00:09, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Hmm... why don't you test it out to see if that's what you're supposed to do... In other words, yes, you drag it. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 01:19, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Still didn't work. Are they Mac compatible? {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== New from Brother Chaps. Inc.!! ==

NEW STINKOMAN LEVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put it up on the main page so every one knows, please. --Anony

THAT'S KINDA OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We always put that kinda stuff on the [[Template:whatsnew|whatsnew template]] {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:00, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Shots ==

The firey shots now go strait, no longer going down while going forward.
: Not entirely true; they do drop a little, but they also go full-screen instead of just a short distance like they used to. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:53, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== How many hits? ==

How many freakin' hits does it take to kill Harvax?

:13 or 14. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 23:08, 5 September 2005 (BST)

Thank you. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

== Version 7.0 - 7.1 ==

Did anybody notice when the notice in the bottom right corner changed from 7.0 to 7.1? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 09:27, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I did. Maybe it was a smalll update, like a bug fix or a stinkomanual update. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I believe 7.1 was a bug fixing version. From memory, it corrected level -0.4 from showing up after defeating Ekersby. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:09, 7 September 2005 (BST)

==I can't find the 9.3 boss!==

Whenever i reach the flag, nothing happens and I just keep flying through an infinite level! Anybody have any idea whats going on/what to do?

I've had this problem, but only on the cheat version. I have absolutely NO idea of what's going on. I had a theory but forgot it. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:26, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== ...The new punching?! ==

Who else here doesn't like the new punching?? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]

== Messy Page ==
The whole fun fact section of this page is a mess. I'm thinking we need to delete some facts, maybe move some pages, stuff like that. Like individual boss fun facts chould go in their own section in the enemies page. And I think a page should be set up of a list of all the "Try Level" "Game Over" and "More Levels To Come" scenes. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

:It is a bit messy. I'll try sweeping the floor.
:...
:But seriously, yea. Too much info. We need to have a [[garage sale]] or something. I'll maybe try to do a bit of work on the page. Probably a few more Fun Facts subsections are needed, as well as maybe an 'updates section', for the little things they change every time they update. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:07, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::The fun facts should be split into levels wherever possible, and a bunch of other changes. I was kinda waiting for the game to be finished before proposing any radical alterations. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Would it be okay to remove all of the "when the game was first made, it was like this. it was later changed" type messages? Shouldn't the guide just talk about how the game is now?--DrPepperMD

::We have precedent for keeping records of when things change, but that's mostly because the toons and such don't change often - this game changes regularly... Perhaps split them off to yet another page? I'm willing to do that now if there's no objections. {{User:phlip/sig}} 03:56, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I had another look - I don't think there are enough "in a previous version..." facts to warrant its own page, but I still don't think they should be removed. Perhaps group them all together under a "changes" heading or something... {{User:phlip/sig}} 11:10, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:'''Hi!''' I have two points I'd like to talk about (sorry, I'm not really mentioning anything new).
:*This TALK page is indeed still messy. I think we should archive ''again'' everything except the Closed (STUFF), XML and couple of most recent (like level 9) conversations. Oh! and this section of course. I'd do it, but um, I hate to ask... how do you archive things again?
::*The Main page has its archives broken in pieces of 20, and has its own template and everything, I think this talk page merits that kind of organization.
:*Um yeah the page is kinda bloated. I was thinking making actual ''level'' pages for most stuff (we already have the walkthroughs, which the level pages can point to) like [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. I think it's doable at least for the early stages, and since the game is presumably nearly complete. That or Real World references should have its own page. So what should it be, individual level pages or Real World references? :D
::*Organizing the page now, will save us the headache of updating it later, when it's even more bloated. Adding to a new infrastructure isn't necessarily that much harder.
: Thank you guys for your time!
: --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:50, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
: I have organized the talk [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#This_might_need_archival|archives]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:24, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I definitely like the separate Real World References page! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:38, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I have reorganized some of the sections, is it clean enough to remove the cleanup tag? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:24, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::It is not even close to being clean. You have been doing a '''great''' jorb on this, but it is still to big for its own good. We should probably take out the updates and break the FFs into smaller sections. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Some good examples of shortening is that we need to make either A: A Big Fun fact page or B: Seperate articles for all the facts and references.

== ??!!Stinkomanuel!!?? ==

It-It's at level 5 again!!! What the crap just happened?!? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]

== REALLY SLOW ==
This game runs REEEAAALLY slow on my computer! Does anyone else have that problem? Even at school on P4 computers it seems slow. What kind of computers do you need to play this? [[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 19:43, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff bad? ==

What's wrong with the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman 20X6 - CUSTOM LEVELS|fanstuff]] [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION|links]]? [[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] says it's "wiki policy," but I don't see anything against fanstuff in the [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]]. {{User:Trogga/sig}}
:I agree with you. It's "External Links", not "H*R Links." But I can see why some wouldn't like it. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

::I'm not sure exactly where I read it, but you can take it to the administrators if you want. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 18:49, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure you read it in an old discussion of the page - where an admin said that no fanstuff related ''pages'' and ''fun facts'' should be made. (i.e. a guide to custom levels; a factoid on how you can do something with a cheat version) - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
::If I remember correctly it was a sysop edit summary just a few days ago, but if you really want to add it again, I'll stop reverting. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 19:00, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Here's examples I found. These may be what you are talking about: [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive#Add an article on custom levels.3F|here]] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&diff=138917&oldid=138711 here]. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 19:02, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

We don't link to fanstuff because (1) as a knowledge base, we should only list official sources as external links, (2) we don't have any real info on fanstuff nor do we have any control of its content, and (3) if we allowed person A's fanstuff on this page, then we'd have to allow the fanstuff of persons B, C, D, E, and everyone else on all the other pages, and that is not the point of this wiki, nor should keeping up with and policing things like that be one of our chores. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:46, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

You're Insane, man! I liked those links! Besides, Trogga and Joshua are right! Those links were useful, Fanstuff or not! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:The cheat version may be bad, but the custom levels are public fanstuff from multiple users, and I think they should stay. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

Any glitches that can only be accessed with the cheat version or in custom levels should be treated like out-of-the-frame glitches in the toons - they were not intended to be seen by the public, so there's no reason to allow for them. That is, if there's something that happens because something is not specifically catered for (eg 1-Up kicking a Stafulter) it should not be mentioned here (though it could be mentioned on the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION#Quirks|fanstuff entry's page]]). If there is something intentional that can only be accessed this way (like the cabbage enemy was) then it should be mentioned, as a remark or as appropriate on another Stinkoman 20X6 page. Linking to the custom levels here would in my mind be the same as linking to [[HRFWiki:Other Character Email|Other Character Email]] or suchlike from the [[Strong Bad Email]] page, and would easily set a precedent for every fanstuff (or even just each category of fanstuff would be bad enough) being linked to from the H*R thing it was inspired by. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:09, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

But what's the point of (fanstuff) interwiki links if we're not going to use them? {{User:Trogga/sig}}

Yeah, if we're not supposed to link to fanstuff, then, ''Oh! Why don't we'' '''blow the fanstuff link off the face of that side template thingy''' if we're "not supposed to link to fanstuff"! See? it's ridiculous!! Take ''that'', It's dot com! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:There's a difference between "linking to the fanstuff site from this site" to "linking to a fanstuff page ''from an article'' on this site" - the ''articles'' are supposed to make a ''knowledge base'' containing ''facts'' about ''H*R''. However the site as a whole contains the knowledge base, the forum, the fanstuff, the chat channel, etc... so links between them ''outside the articles themselves'' are still good. {{User:phlip/sig}}

:Take it easy, FaceCrap. It's not an extremely good idea to talk like that. — {{User:Lapper/sig}}

:Yeah, I guess not. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

So,''anyway'', if no one's said anything against the Fanstuff links for days, why hasn't somebody put them back? I would, but if it were a good idea to, somebody probably would've already. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:I am against putting the fanstuff links there. People should just visit fanstuff themselves. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 14:05, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Well, you ''can'' just go to the external links part of the side template, true, but it might be easier to have direct links on the bottom of the page. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:So what, we have to be actively posting here all the time saying "I still don't want the fanstuff links there" after the discussion seems settled? OK, to make it explicit: I think they should not be there, and I will continue to think they should not be there until such a time as I specifically post saying otherwise. Until then, take it as read that I am posting here regularly saying they should not be there. {{User:phlip/sig}} 16:02, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== 9.1 intro ==

Can anyone remember what game this is parodying? Where it shows the castle and then pans across to the character standing on a rock.

I remember this from a NES game I used to own but cant remember what :(

:Some Megaman games have it... - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 11:40, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::There's also the some what popular Sega game Rocket Night Adventures, and it looks alomost just like that, except he looks at the kingdom then a giant pig head appears and laughs. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

== Level 8 ==

I know people have commented on the whole level 7,-0,9 thing. I think I has the solution. After Level 10, TBC are likely to go back and do a level 8 as somewhat of a lost level. I'm dissapointed there was no swimming level, so this might be where it comes in ( Level 10 defenitely won't be such a level. I'll bet anyone my entire life savings [being $8.42] that 10 will be a Bowser's Keep type deal)---[[User:RatherAnnoying]]
: Level -0 ''is'' level 8, just not called that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:06, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Cutscene Before 9.3 ==

So, doesn't anyone think that noting that there is no cutscene before 9.3 is too obvious? There's no cutscene before An Ice Machine either, and nobody cared about that! Who put that fact up, anyway? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 00:34, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I agree. We should either put both facts up, or none of 'em. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:13, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Easter Eggs==

:I know it wouldn't do much, but to help clean up, couldnt we move the easter eggs onto the levels in which they're on? For instance, for the "snot bubble" easter egg, couldnt we just keep that on the "Oh! The moon!" page? --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:11, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I don't think we need the snot bubble one there. We already recorded it on [[Stinkoman 20X6 Playable Characters]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Stinkoman Labels ==

Personally, I think there should be some kind of consistency among the level titles. If we are to change the level 8's to level -0's, we should do that throughout the entire page and not just to one of the titles. I changed it back because, having two dashes -0-9 doesnt' exactly look pretty, and it would look even worse if we had (-0)-9, as I had seen once before (if my memory serves me right). Please accept my apologies but I will change it back to the way I had it for the aformentioned reason. If it is deemed better to have all level 8 labels turned into -0 label, then it should be done across the board. Thanks.--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:36, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:My vote is too change all '''-0''' tags into '''8'''s. I find the -0 title confusing when being used among other levels. This is probably especially true for newbies. 8 is just much simpler. And it's not entirely inaccurate either - Level 8 ''is'' called Level 8 in the Stinkomanual. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: But the ''game itself'' calls it Level -0. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:47, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: To me that says that the game creators (that would be TBC) both call it level 8 and level -0. However, my first issue still stands: ''consistency''. Having several titles call it level 8 and only one or two (or even half) level -0 is inconsistent and looks bad. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:50, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::: Do we have titles that call it level 8? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: We go by -0. I don't understand why people care about it. We go by the official site, and the site calls it -0. Oh, and I think the walkthrough says -0/8. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 17:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: To answer my own question, we did. I came up with a solution that not only fixed that, but also fixes the "double hyphen" problem. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: What the walkthrough says doesn't matter - it can be changed. Basically, the official site calls it -0 '''AND''' 8. So we could go either way without "official site relevance" problems. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: Yes, this is true, but one is in the manual (which has lots of other intentional mistakes) and the other is in the game itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::I was gonna post this till you guys beat me to it (twice! I had 2 edit conflicts):
::::::''Pretty much every main title that refers to it under Trivia, remarks (before the change) and inside references. There is a snippet in the flash [[Stinkoman_20X6#General|information]] that calls it episode 8 (this i beleive is original TBC wording) and further below 8/-0, and ... and that's it!
::::: and I like your solution! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:58, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the manual itself is kind of inconsistant. I agree with Jay. And furthermore, I think -0 sums up the level better too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::: Working heavily on the Stinkoman 20X6 levels, I must say -0 is a great inconvience. When we can choose between convient and inconvient, why do we pick the harder one? It seems that TBC used -0 on the level selection screen and "TRY LEVEL" screen and 8 everywhere else. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:02, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Define "everywhere else." All I see was the manual, which was already mentioned, and the "What's New" box from the day before, where they didn't want to give away the new level. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:09, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Not to mention ''" It said "V6.0 EPISODES 1-8" until September 5, 2005, when the ninth level was added."'' Although level and episode are two slightly different things. Yes, I know I'm being slightly repetitive. I do like the new wording a lot though! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Ok, I think that we can live with some itty bitty inconviences in our articles. -0 makes much more sense than 8, and is called -0 on the site. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:59, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::I don't exactly see what you're talking about with -0 making more sense. -0 is much more inconvenient than 8, and we've already established that TBC call it both. I vote '''8'''. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:13, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

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== XML ==

Did anyone notice that you can download and edit the XML files to create new levels? This could be good for the Fanstuff Wiki, if anyone gets it working. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

- Care to share where they are? :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:05, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, I think you have to edit the flash file to get them to work offline first (which is not too hard). They are at:

[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.3.3.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/stinkogame.swf]

Those are the ones I found in my temp folder (even though I didn't get to those levels). If you go to ''View'' -> ''Page Source'' in Firefox, you can kinda figure out how it works (maybe). --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
''Edit: Darn, the links don't work. They are in some other folder. Once I figure out the folder name, the game will work offline. And they don't show up on Google yet.''

Ooh - found it - They're in another folder called "levelData."
[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

-As a note for other people wanting to edit, you need to get the 5 level files, the main swf, and the object library: [http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/objectLibrary.swf]. (You can see some game graphics if you view that file)

It's a pretty simple almost-XML format, I'm making a level editor for it now.
[[User:Travis Wells|Travis Wells]]

:Woah. New enemy in that library. If anything confirms another set of levels coming up, that would. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:07, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Hey, I was just about to make a level editor for it, but it probably won't be very good. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

:Hey, if you decompile the flash file for the game you'll see there is already a level editor in there on the script for sprite 761. Unfortunately I don't know anything about flash, so I don't know what to do with that, or how to get to it, but someone must.

:I'm working on an editor written in VB using the MSXML library. --[[User:ackicantthinkofaname|breadtangle]] 18:30, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
I know all about Flash, but I don't have a decompiler -NonHacka

'''NOTE:''' With the release of Stinkoman 20X6 v6, those links have become outdated. The new ones are [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|here]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:48, 4 August 2005 (BST) '''EDIT:''' Moved all links to my user page.

Arghh...I Made the installation program but i need a site to upload it onto.
Can someone tell me one? --- [[User:Pertmywert|[[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]]]
:[mailto:phlipping@yahoo.com Email] it to me and I'll host it for you, if you'd like. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 08:02, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
::http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install.exe --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:28, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

::: Thanks philip for hosting it but remember i made it[[User:Pertmywert|Joel]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]

:::: Pertmywert has sent me the new version: http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install_v3.exe - I'll keep the v2 one up incase anyone's interested. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 23:44, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

I already have a great working editor for this game, a new version has just been released. Check it out here: http://www.geocities.com/joesarcade/stinkoman.zip or here: http://joesarcade.hopto.org:8093/stinkoman.zip

Can someone please make a level editor compatible with MacOS?--[[User:Darklinkskywalker|Darklinkskywalker]] 20:38, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

*OH WHAT THE CRAP!!!! Do need Flash or something for this? Not Flash Player, but the animator thingie? Every time I click on a link it doesnt work!!! PLEASE HELP!!!

:Which links are you trying to click on, the ones in this section, the ones on the [[Stinkoman 20X6]] page, or the ones on my user page? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:50, 4 August 2005 (BST)

== Closed STUFF ==

These Fun Facts were on STUFF and declined. If you want to discuss these facts, please make sure your votes are seperate from the original ones.

===Stlunko===
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.
*'''Decline.''' If this isn't a TTATOT, I don't know what is. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', you're not trying hard enough - I'm sure you could think of lots more bosses that involve fists somehow if you tried... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I usually like these kind of Fun Facts, but it sounds like you're just not trying here. Pick one. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Well, if '''I''' had to pick one, I'd definitely pick the first one; it's what the original one stated, and mentioning only that wouldn't be such a TTATOT. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:23, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
===Rose Blake===
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

*'''Double Decliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiined!''' Seriously, can we stop stretching Fun Facts as far as they can possibly be stretched? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Slightly like? Oh, man! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline for the pudgy! Decline for the pudgy!''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Gimme a D-cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
===Black Spots===
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you look at the bottom of Stinkoman's white area you can see little black lines so this 'fact' is false [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
===Tampo===
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Sleckhund.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:24, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Er...''' The meaning of Tempo might be he is going faster.
*'''Comment''' Or it could also be a reference to tampons... Um, actually, no, forget that I said that.

Dude, Whomever thought of ths had no idea of an alternative. Maybe it's a bad translation. Or he isn't very mean and also doesn't taste very good.

===Brody===
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Panzerschrecken'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:26, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:09, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''-and Ogog, the size is more-or-less in proportion as well.

===Engrish===
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second the Decrine.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:28, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
===Stone Fist===
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I think it is pretty much already stated. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
**And now that more levels are actually coming out, saying more levels will come out is completely useless. [[user: lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' Now that a new level using the stone fist has been released, this is utterly useless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:06, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
===Control Scheme===
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' As a video game lover, I've gotta say that I am pretty used to using the right-most button to jump and the left-most button to fire. Just water this fact down a bit. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Declorne''' Uh... so? [[User:SP|SP]]
*'''Declonomys''' I see no problems with the control screen.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 00:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

===Stoves===
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
****Actually, its very likely since plastic, and many fabrics dont decompose at all. The magnetic tape in the casette might have decomposed but that wouldnt have mattered because Stinkoman ate the casette, not played it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:40, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But doesnt a Capital X mean the greek number for 10, and a miniscule x stand for a variable? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:48, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****A capital X signifies a ''Roman'' numeral 10. And variables are ''usually'' lowercase, but if you don't have a character set with upper- and lowercase letters (like most old video games), then you just have to make do with what you got. (See also [[Rabbit Algebra]], which seems to mix the two.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Does anyone else feel that 20X6 is simply a brilliant joke? Don't try to place it into a timeline, just leave it silly, as it is. --J
*'''Decline.''' Does the author of this FF purport to have insider knowledge of TBC's ''fictitious'' world? [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:10, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''I'll quote myself, damnit! just kidding, quote me all you want. But, to reiterate, What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power.--[[User:geoguy91|geoguy91]] 01:06, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Ladder difference ===
{{stufffact|The ladders in level 5.2 look slightly different from those of level 5.1.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:34, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)|19:08, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)|revised and accepted|4|2|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Different Colors ===
{{stufffact|The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)|00:56, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|5|0|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Tiny eye difference ===
{{stufffact|The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)|01:00, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|revised and accepted|5|1|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Liekand's magic powers ===
{{stufffact|Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.}}
{{stuffverdict|12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)|02:15, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|5|0|Stinkoman 20X6}}

== Weird glitch. ==

My brother's a big fan of this game. One day, long ago, we we're checking out the Continue Menu, and ALL THE LEVELS WERE THERE!!!!
My brother noticed the strange thing that happened, and swore that he didn't make all this happen. He didn't have a clue of what was going on. Then I thought, ''This is obviously a rare glitch. I didn't do anything.'' So now when I see "stinkoman level <#>!" on the
main page, I go the game and click "CONTINUE" and I check it out. Pretty cool, huh? I'm just wondering if anyone else expierenced this glitch. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 20:14, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:That's not a glitch. Everyone can access all the levels, at all times. The only time when levels were hidden was when there were only three. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:19, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Well, also, you can't access stage #.2 until you beat #.1. But you can access all of the #.1s at any time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:20, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::Right, forgot about that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:22, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh yeah, and when a new level is released, the previously released one's .2 is now accessible. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]
I see. That's probably also why my grandmother's computer has it too. Oh welll. List of levels my brother hasn't beaten yet:

Levels:

*5.2 (It's pretty hard, my brother can't get though the uptants in a row)

*7.2 (My brother has beaten this level at grandmother's, but when we came back it was gone.)

*8.1 (For some reason, it came out today. My brother can't play it because he's still asleep. That, and the computer can't access the game.)

*8.2 (Ditto.)

Bosses:

*Tampo (Even if it's the first level boss. it was supposed to be easy.)
*Nebulon (If you can't beat the .2 level, you can't see/beat the boss.)
*The Liekand (He has seen it, though.)
*An Ice Machine (Ditto with The Leikand.)
*Unnamed Boss (For the reason he can't play Level 8.)

G'bye. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:17, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

*Well, TBC are assuming you've beat all the levels so far, and doesn't want good players to get frustrated at playing the levels all over again each time stinkoman updates. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 00:56, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Let me get ths straight. You were able to gain access to all of the levels? How did you do it? Were you able to get to level 10? -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 07:51, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
: This is 100% normal. You can reach stage 1 of every level no matter what, at least, since level 4 was released. Of course he wasn't able to get to level 10. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:10, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== XML Page ==

Should we make a page for the stinkoman XML files? --{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 07:44, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:[[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|I already did.]] And it includes the externalSwf files as well. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 12:45, 2 August 2005 (BST)

::I mean a proper page and not a user page like Stinkoman/XML --{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 22:19, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Fall and die?==

I'm playing a web version (from i-am-bored.com), and all that happens is that Stinkoman falls down the screen and dies, no ground, no bosses, WTF is going on?

Don't even acronym swears, and just use the one of Homestar runner.com those web ones are unrealiable. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:My guess is that they only saved stinkogame.swf without the levelData or externalSwf files. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 02:48, 3 August 2005 (BST)

::how can a normal person (like me) save everything onto their (my) computer?--[[User:StrongBad110990|StrongBad110990]] 18:19, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Your best bet is to download [[User:phlip|phlip]]'s Stinkoman 20X6 Cheat Program, then run nocheater.html. You can find it [[Forum:3336|here]]. It's a lot easier than grabbing a list of links from [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|somewhere]], and saving them into the appropriate folders. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:53, 9 August 2005 (BST)

:Look for Venusy's Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman, then download all those files. And another thing; don't use WTF. Use WTC. It makes you sound more like a true Homestar Runner fan.

: I had this happen in the middle of the game while playing from homestarrunner.com . I was at the level 1 boss (the giant brain). I had 2 lives left. I died. When it started over, Stinkoman fell and kept falling. And the game was over. Must've been some kind of glitch I guess.--DrPepperMD 9/24/05.

==Strange Storyline==
Well, the storyline's kinda getting dull since Pan-pan was kidnapped. Almost all the levels 4-10 is/will be about rescuing pan-pan (and starting level 7, 1-up too. ) TBC, this is an awesome game, but the story... --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 14:06, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stinkoman is emulating 8-bit platformers. "Rescue Pan-Pan" IS the story. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:01, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Thank you Stinkoman! But our panda is in another castle! ;) --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 17:50, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Besides, as you may have noticed, even Stinkoman admits the plot is utterly predictable. Although, even though the PLOT might be predictable, chances are, if -0 or 3 are any indication, the level scenarios won't be. :) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Another possible Negatory level reference?==
I'm not adding this to the item page, but if someone can verify what I'm remembering and thinks it's useful, then add it to the "Real World References" for the Level -0 (Negatory) world. I seem to remember that in the original NES Metroid, with just an autofiring controller (ah, NES Advantage, we had good times, yes?), you could get wedged in a door, then collapse/expand rapidly and climb up through the wall. If you did this on one particular door, you would go up into a very strange and frankly hazardous area that was all messed up (sounding a lot like that lost Sonic level). It was easy to get stuck, and I don't think any of the doors worked properly. Anyone remember what I'm talking about? If so, it's perhaps another possible reference like that Sonic world, with the advantage that no Game Genie or anything was required to get to it. -- DLR, Aug 3 2005, 1:00pm

:The reference to Hidden Palace is dubious at best. Hidden Palace is nothing like Negatory World. The Game Genie version is such that the entire thing looks like nothing but static (since the HPZ graphics were removed from the final cartridge) and the Sonic 2 Beta version is not glitched, just unfinished. Do you have any links for the Metroid reference? I'm not familiar with that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:32, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Here's one reference: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Metroid#Metroid.27s_Hidden_Worlds Wikipedia: Metroid Talk]. And a [http://www.classicgaming.com/mdb/m1/met-map.txt technical explainer] on Metroid's map structure and why it's a glitch, not a true "hidden area". It's interesting stuff, but admittedly probably not a direct inspiration for the Negatory world. -- DLR, [[User:216.41.87.210|216.41.87.210]] 23:48, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I do think it may be a reference to Hidden Palace, because there are [http://www.sws2b.com/zones/hidden_palace_final screenshots] of it. They do look similar to -0. In both versions, the level is incomplete, but in the beta ROM which I have, the graphics are not messed and it is easier to play. Level 8 more than probably has something to do with this Zone. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 14:53, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I've played HPZ, too, and don't see the resemblance. Neither version is particularly glitchy; one has missing graphics and one has perfect graphics but is ''unfinished''. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:52, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I still like to think that Level -0 is a reference to the 'Glitch City' bug in Pokémon Red/Blue versions. The randomly generated graphics are similar, as is the ability to defy the game's physics (example: Stinkoman can stand on the air at the beginning of the lever, and you could Surf through solid objects in the Glitch City bug). Also, there are many points in Glitch City where your character could become trapped in a place that seems solid, just like the opening cut-scene where Stinkoman was stuck in the wall. TBC have made Pokémon references before (Cheatachu, anyone?), and the glitchy nature of the first Pokémon games are widely known. Now, I wouldn't go so far as to compare Ekersby with Missingno., but the parallels between Level -0 and Glitch City are very similar.
But, with all that in mind, Super Mario Bros.'s Minus World was still the first thing to come to mind. Glitch City occurred to me just as soon as I started playing the level. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

BUT, in the Sonic 2 Beta ROM, act 2 of HPZ puts you stuck inside a wall. That MUST have ''something'' to do with it. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 18:01, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stuck inside a wall comes from Minus World. You know, Minus World, Negatory Level... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:19, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

But you're not '''stuck''' in it, you slide through it until you come out the other side. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:02, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

And Stinkoman doesn't slide through the wall to get out, he Stinkoblasts (is that a good name?) it. Wonder what that might be a reference to? --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 02:07, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== This might need archival ==

Am I the only one who thinks the talk page on here is getting a LITTLE too big for its britches? I mean, cripes, look at the length of the TOC. That's pretty ridiculous; one entire page of scrolling down before you actually reach text. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 01:36, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I vote for moving everything that hasn't been changed since the start of July or so to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive]] or somesuch... I can do it now if noone else wants to. {{User:phlip/sig}} 04:39, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::I concur. It really is too long. Go right ahead and archive it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
If this does get archived (<s>and I'm not necessarily saying it should</s>), you shouldn't move the threads based on date. You should move the ones that should have been posted on the forum. Anything related to actually maintaining the page (for example, closed STUFF), should stay. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:56, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Okay, so after a second viewing under the tutelage of Pom Pom's keen eyes, I see that most of this page is idle chatter. I'm all for archiving it. But, like I said before, anything wiki-related should stay, no matter the date. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:02, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

There we go... Everthing here has been edited recently or is (IMO) still relevant... I might have been a bit overzealous, feel free to move anything back if need be. (I got edit conflicted with your message, IDC, I'll take another look soon, I just want to get this edit in) {{User:phlip/sig}} 05:20, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I've made the archives cleaner. Please feel free to add templates and keep moving more pages. I am done for now and since it's 4:20 I need to go to bed! Please also read what I posted on the [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#Messy_Page|Messy Page]] section for those who are concerned about that. Good night! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:23, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Levls to co me ==

I've noticed that there is aglitched up "more levels to come" sign at teh end of level -0. Plesae picture! --anony

I've noticed thatyou are "not logged in" so y dont u log in. Plesae log in! --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:48, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ha! Good one! Anyway, COME is spelled C OME on that screen, not CO ME. And the music that usually plays on the normal, non-glitched version stutters frequently, or so it seems, because I seek-bar'd my way to that screen, and it stuttered like that. It's all like, (mocking music) "bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow", etc. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 01:49, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Level 9 ==

What do you think level nine will be? My guess is an underwater bored.

It could also be underground cave. I hope level 10 is something like "''The Doomsday Zone''" from "''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''" --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:51, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I've got a few good ones. One is "The castle" or "Spelunking" or "Candyland" or even "The desert," or "The swamp". [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

Or maybe it'll be a "flying through the jungle level". Turbolence sounds like the kinda name for a level like that. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 10:03, 29 Aug 2005 (CST)

==The Flow==

I've noticed that owhen you start level 1.2 (maybe the others work as well) on the TRY LEVEL! screen, it says something about YOU GOTTA GO WITH THE FLOW or something like that. I can't read it cause it flashes too fast. Can anyone get a snapshot of it? — {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:41, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Two Questions==

I just got a seek bar, and I was looking around in the Flash file. Here are some questions:
#Is the music meant to skip like that at the "MORE LEVELS TO COME" (in this case, "MORE LEVLS TO C OME") screen, or is it because I was messing around?
#<del>Where in the Flash file is Undefined.Undefined?</del> Found it.
--[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 01:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's meant to sound like that - since it comes just after the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0|glitch level]]. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:52, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Oh. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 02:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Astromund trash can lid? ==

I don't really know, this is a real stretch. I remember when I was a kid I used to play this MS-DOS game callled: "Math Rescue". It was about numbers being stolen by these aleins called gruzzles, but you could take hits without dying if you had trash can lids, used as shields. Does that have relation to the Stinkomanuel? [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

== Undefined.Undefined? ==

Where the heck is that level? I can't find it!

Do you have a seek bar? If you don't, you'll need to get one to be able to view that level. Why do you need to? It's just a grey hole. Oh and by the way... Where the heck do I get a seek bar? I can't find one! I've tried downloading it before but it just says "No scripatable flash on this page." --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:43, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Bookmark the button, or for you <shaking-green-text>Internet Explorer</shaking-green-text> users, add it to your favorites. Then go around to the end of the flash file, and you'll find Undefined.Undefined. And it's not a grey hole, it's a black hole. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 20:50, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I added it to my favorites (bookmarks on firefox, but that's on my other 'puter still won't work) but nothing happens! How do I get it to work? --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:46, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

You have IE? Cuz then you have to add the Seek Bar for IE to your favorites. And you can't use it on the swf.

I have IE 5, Netscape 7, and Firefox 1.0.6 but on fire fox, I add it to my personal toolbar, and when I'm on the page, I click it, and it replies, once again, with "No scriptable flash on this page". And it says IE for WINDOWS, not Mac, so I can't get it to work. I try and try but nothing happens.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 00:06, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I just moved the seek bar to the same position as the s in characters and all the music started playing, what looked like part of the object library was on the screen, and even part of the flash for ekersby sprites morphing. I dunno what the seek bar has against the game and the games menu, but it's so weird. [[User:Seek Bar|Seek Bar]]

I have a seek bar, but how do I use it? I click it on my personal toolbar bookmarks when I go to the stinkogame.html on homestarrunner.com, but I can't get it to work. Why is that? --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 23:39, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Am I supposed to drag the seek bar from bookmarks to the web page? hurry up and answer plz, I'm impatient. I have it on Netscape, Mozilla, and IE.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 00:09, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Hmm... why don't you test it out to see if that's what you're supposed to do... In other words, yes, you drag it. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 01:19, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Still didn't work. Are they Mac compatible? {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== New from Brother Chaps. Inc.!! ==

NEW STINKOMAN LEVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put it up on the main page so every one knows, please. --Anony

THAT'S KINDA OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We always put that kinda stuff on the [[Template:whatsnew|whatsnew template]] {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:00, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Shots ==

The firey shots now go strait, no longer going down while going forward.
: Not entirely true; they do drop a little, but they also go full-screen instead of just a short distance like they used to. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:53, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== How many hits? ==

How many freakin' hits does it take to kill Harvax?

:13 or 14. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 23:08, 5 September 2005 (BST)

Thank you. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

== Version 7.0 - 7.1 ==

Did anybody notice when the notice in the bottom right corner changed from 7.0 to 7.1? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 09:27, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I did. Maybe it was a smalll update, like a bug fix or a stinkomanual update. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I believe 7.1 was a bug fixing version. From memory, it corrected level -0.4 from showing up after defeating Ekersby. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:09, 7 September 2005 (BST)

==I can't find the 9.3 boss!==

Whenever i reach the flag, nothing happens and I just keep flying through an infinite level! Anybody have any idea whats going on/what to do?

I've had this problem, but only on the cheat version. I have absolutely NO idea of what's going on. I had a theory but forgot it. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:26, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== ...The new punching?! ==

Who else here doesn't like the new punching?? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]

== Messy Page ==
The whole fun fact section of this page is a mess. I'm thinking we need to delete some facts, maybe move some pages, stuff like that. Like individual boss fun facts chould go in their own section in the enemies page. And I think a page should be set up of a list of all the "Try Level" "Game Over" and "More Levels To Come" scenes. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

:It is a bit messy. I'll try sweeping the floor.
:...
:But seriously, yea. Too much info. We need to have a [[garage sale]] or something. I'll maybe try to do a bit of work on the page. Probably a few more Fun Facts subsections are needed, as well as maybe an 'updates section', for the little things they change every time they update. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:07, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::The fun facts should be split into levels wherever possible, and a bunch of other changes. I was kinda waiting for the game to be finished before proposing any radical alterations. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Would it be okay to remove all of the "when the game was first made, it was like this. it was later changed" type messages? Shouldn't the guide just talk about how the game is now?--DrPepperMD

::We have precedent for keeping records of when things change, but that's mostly because the toons and such don't change often - this game changes regularly... Perhaps split them off to yet another page? I'm willing to do that now if there's no objections. {{User:phlip/sig}} 03:56, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I had another look - I don't think there are enough "in a previous version..." facts to warrant its own page, but I still don't think they should be removed. Perhaps group them all together under a "changes" heading or something... {{User:phlip/sig}} 11:10, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:'''Hi!''' I have two points I'd like to talk about (sorry, I'm not really mentioning anything new).
:*This TALK page is indeed still messy. I think we should archive ''again'' everything except the Closed (STUFF), XML and couple of most recent (like level 9) conversations. Oh! and this section of course. I'd do it, but um, I hate to ask... how do you archive things again?
::*The Main page has its archives broken in pieces of 20, and has its own template and everything, I think this talk page merits that kind of organization.
:*Um yeah the page is kinda bloated. I was thinking making actual ''level'' pages for most stuff (we already have the walkthroughs, which the level pages can point to) like [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. I think it's doable at least for the early stages, and since the game is presumably nearly complete. That or Real World references should have its own page. So what should it be, individual level pages or Real World references? :D
::*Organizing the page now, will save us the headache of updating it later, when it's even more bloated. Adding to a new infrastructure isn't necessarily that much harder.
: Thank you guys for your time!
: --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:50, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
: I have organized the talk [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#This_might_need_archival|archives]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:24, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I definitely like the separate Real World References page! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:38, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I have reorganized some of the sections, is it clean enough to remove the cleanup tag? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:24, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::It is not even close to being clean. You have been doing a '''great''' jorb on this, but it is still to big for its own good. We should probably take out the updates and break the FFs into smaller sections. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Some good examples of shortening is that we need to make either A: A Big Fun fact page or B: Seperate articles for all the facts and references.

== ??!!Stinkomanuel!!?? ==

It-It's at level 5 again!!! What the crap just happened?!? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]

== REALLY SLOW ==
This game runs REEEAAALLY slow on my computer! Does anyone else have that problem? Even at school on P4 computers it seems slow. What kind of computers do you need to play this? [[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 19:43, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff bad? ==

What's wrong with the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman 20X6 - CUSTOM LEVELS|fanstuff]] [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION|links]]? [[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] says it's "wiki policy," but I don't see anything against fanstuff in the [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]]. {{User:Trogga/sig}}
:I agree with you. It's "External Links", not "H*R Links." But I can see why some wouldn't like it. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

::I'm not sure exactly where I read it, but you can take it to the administrators if you want. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 18:49, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure you read it in an old discussion of the page - where an admin said that no fanstuff related ''pages'' and ''fun facts'' should be made. (i.e. a guide to custom levels; a factoid on how you can do something with a cheat version) - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
::If I remember correctly it was a sysop edit summary just a few days ago, but if you really want to add it again, I'll stop reverting. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 19:00, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Here's examples I found. These may be what you are talking about: [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive#Add an article on custom levels.3F|here]] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&diff=138917&oldid=138711 here]. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 19:02, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

We don't link to fanstuff because (1) as a knowledge base, we should only list official sources as external links, (2) we don't have any real info on fanstuff nor do we have any control of its content, and (3) if we allowed person A's fanstuff on this page, then we'd have to allow the fanstuff of persons B, C, D, E, and everyone else on all the other pages, and that is not the point of this wiki, nor should keeping up with and policing things like that be one of our chores. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:46, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

You're Insane, man! I liked those links! Besides, Trogga and Joshua are right! Those links were useful, Fanstuff or not! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:The cheat version may be bad, but the custom levels are public fanstuff from multiple users, and I think they should stay. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

Any glitches that can only be accessed with the cheat version or in custom levels should be treated like out-of-the-frame glitches in the toons - they were not intended to be seen by the public, so there's no reason to allow for them. That is, if there's something that happens because something is not specifically catered for (eg 1-Up kicking a Stafulter) it should not be mentioned here (though it could be mentioned on the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION#Quirks|fanstuff entry's page]]). If there is something intentional that can only be accessed this way (like the cabbage enemy was) then it should be mentioned, as a remark or as appropriate on another Stinkoman 20X6 page. Linking to the custom levels here would in my mind be the same as linking to [[HRFWiki:Other Character Email|Other Character Email]] or suchlike from the [[Strong Bad Email]] page, and would easily set a precedent for every fanstuff (or even just each category of fanstuff would be bad enough) being linked to from the H*R thing it was inspired by. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:09, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

But what's the point of (fanstuff) interwiki links if we're not going to use them? {{User:Trogga/sig}}

Yeah, if we're not supposed to link to fanstuff, then, ''Oh! Why don't we'' '''blow the fanstuff link off the face of that side template thingy''' if we're "not supposed to link to fanstuff"! See? it's ridiculous!! Take ''that'', It's dot com! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:There's a difference between "linking to the fanstuff site from this site" to "linking to a fanstuff page ''from an article'' on this site" - the ''articles'' are supposed to make a ''knowledge base'' containing ''facts'' about ''H*R''. However the site as a whole contains the knowledge base, the forum, the fanstuff, the chat channel, etc... so links between them ''outside the articles themselves'' are still good. {{User:phlip/sig}}

:Take it easy, FaceCrap. It's not an extremely good idea to talk like that. — {{User:Lapper/sig}}

:Yeah, I guess not. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

So,''anyway'', if no one's said anything against the Fanstuff links for days, why hasn't somebody put them back? I would, but if it were a good idea to, somebody probably would've already. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:I am against putting the fanstuff links there. People should just visit fanstuff themselves. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 14:05, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Well, you ''can'' just go to the external links part of the side template, true, but it might be easier to have direct links on the bottom of the page. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:So what, we have to be actively posting here all the time saying "I still don't want the fanstuff links there" after the discussion seems settled? OK, to make it explicit: I think they should not be there, and I will continue to think they should not be there until such a time as I specifically post saying otherwise. Until then, take it as read that I am posting here regularly saying they should not be there. {{User:phlip/sig}} 16:02, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== 9.1 intro ==

Can anyone remember what game this is parodying? Where it shows the castle and then pans across to the character standing on a rock.

I remember this from a NES game I used to own but cant remember what :(

:Some Megaman games have it... - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 11:40, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::There's also the some what popular Sega game Rocket Night Adventures, and it looks alomost just like that, except he looks at the kingdom then a giant pig head appears and laughs. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

== Level 8 ==

I know people have commented on the whole level 7,-0,9 thing. I think I has the solution. After Level 10, TBC are likely to go back and do a level 8 as somewhat of a lost level. I'm dissapointed there was no swimming level, so this might be where it comes in ( Level 10 defenitely won't be such a level. I'll bet anyone my entire life savings [being $8.42] that 10 will be a Bowser's Keep type deal)---[[User:RatherAnnoying]]
: Level -0 ''is'' level 8, just not called that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:06, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Cutscene Before 9.3 ==

So, doesn't anyone think that noting that there is no cutscene before 9.3 is too obvious? There's no cutscene before An Ice Machine either, and nobody cared about that! Who put that fact up, anyway? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 00:34, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I agree. We should either put both facts up, or none of 'em. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:13, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Easter Eggs==

:I know it wouldn't do much, but to help clean up, couldnt we move the easter eggs onto the levels in which they're on? For instance, for the "snot bubble" easter egg, couldnt we just keep that on the "Oh! The moon!" page? --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:11, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I don't think we need the snot bubble one there. We already recorded it on [[Stinkoman 20X6 Playable Characters]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Stinkoman Labels ==

Personally, I think there should be some kind of consistency among the level titles. If we are to change the level 8's to level -0's, we should do that throughout the entire page and not just to one of the titles. I changed it back because, having two dashes -0-9 doesnt' exactly look pretty, and it would look even worse if we had (-0)-9, as I had seen once before (if my memory serves me right). Please accept my apologies but I will change it back to the way I had it for the aformentioned reason. If it is deemed better to have all level 8 labels turned into -0 label, then it should be done across the board. Thanks.--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:36, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:My vote is too change all '''-0''' tags into '''8'''s. I find the -0 title confusing when being used among other levels. This is probably especially true for newbies. 8 is just much simpler. And it's not entirely inaccurate either - Level 8 ''is'' called Level 8 in the Stinkomanual. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: But the ''game itself'' calls it Level -0. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:47, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: To me that says that the game creators (that would be TBC) both call it level 8 and level -0. However, my first issue still stands: ''consistency''. Having several titles call it level 8 and only one or two (or even half) level -0 is inconsistent and looks bad. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:50, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::: Do we have titles that call it level 8? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: We go by -0. I don't understand why people care about it. We go by the official site, and the site calls it -0. Oh, and I think the walkthrough says -0/8. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 17:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: To answer my own question, we did. I came up with a solution that not only fixed that, but also fixes the "double hyphen" problem. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: What the walkthrough says doesn't matter - it can be changed. Basically, the official site calls it -0 '''AND''' 8. So we could go either way without "official site relevance" problems. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: Yes, this is true, but one is in the manual (which has lots of other intentional mistakes) and the other is in the game itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::I was gonna post this till you guys beat me to it (twice! I had 2 edit conflicts):
::::::''Pretty much every main title that refers to it under Trivia, remarks (before the change) and inside references. There is a snippet in the flash [[Stinkoman_20X6#General|information]] that calls it episode 8 (this i beleive is original TBC wording) and further below 8/-0, and ... and that's it!
::::: and I like your solution! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:58, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the manual itself is kind of inconsistant. I agree with Jay. And furthermore, I think -0 sums up the level better too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::: Working heavily on the Stinkoman 20X6 levels, I must say -0 is a great inconvience. When we can choose between convient and inconvient, why do we pick the harder one? It seems that TBC used -0 on the level selection screen and "TRY LEVEL" screen and 8 everywhere else. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:02, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Define "everywhere else." All I see was the manual, which was already mentioned, and the "What's New" box from the day before, where they didn't want to give away the new level. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:09, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Not to mention ''" It said "V6.0 EPISODES 1-8" until September 5, 2005, when the ninth level was added."'' Although level and episode are two slightly different things. Yes, I know I'm being slightly repetitive. I do like the new wording a lot though! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Ok, I think that we can live with some itty bitty inconviences in our articles. -0 makes much more sense than 8, and is called -0 on the site. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:59, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::I don't exactly see what you're talking about with -0 making more sense. -0 is much more inconvenient than 8, and we've already established that TBC call it both. I vote '''8'''. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:13, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

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== XML ==

Did anyone notice that you can download and edit the XML files to create new levels? This could be good for the Fanstuff Wiki, if anyone gets it working. --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

- Care to share where they are? :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:05, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)

Well, I think you have to edit the flash file to get them to work offline first (which is not too hard). They are at:

[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.1.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.1.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.2.2.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/levelData/level1.3.3.xml]
[http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/stinkogame.swf]

Those are the ones I found in my temp folder (even though I didn't get to those levels). If you go to ''View'' -> ''Page Source'' in Firefox, you can kinda figure out how it works (maybe). --[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
''Edit: Darn, the links don't work. They are in some other folder. Once I figure out the folder name, the game will work offline. And they don't show up on Google yet.''

Ooh - found it - They're in another folder called "levelData."
[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

-As a note for other people wanting to edit, you need to get the 5 level files, the main swf, and the object library: [http://homestarrunner.com/stinkogame/objectLibrary.swf]. (You can see some game graphics if you view that file)

It's a pretty simple almost-XML format, I'm making a level editor for it now.
[[User:Travis Wells|Travis Wells]]

:Woah. New enemy in that library. If anything confirms another set of levels coming up, that would. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 15:07, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Hey, I was just about to make a level editor for it, but it probably won't be very good. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

:Hey, if you decompile the flash file for the game you'll see there is already a level editor in there on the script for sprite 761. Unfortunately I don't know anything about flash, so I don't know what to do with that, or how to get to it, but someone must.

:I'm working on an editor written in VB using the MSXML library. --[[User:ackicantthinkofaname|breadtangle]] 18:30, 6 Apr 2005 (MDT)
I know all about Flash, but I don't have a decompiler -NonHacka

'''NOTE:''' With the release of Stinkoman 20X6 v6, those links have become outdated. The new ones are [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|here]]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:48, 4 August 2005 (BST) '''EDIT:''' Moved all links to my user page.

Arghh...I Made the installation program but i need a site to upload it onto.
Can someone tell me one? --- [[User:Pertmywert|[[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]]]
:[mailto:phlipping@yahoo.com Email] it to me and I'll host it for you, if you'd like. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 08:02, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
::http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install.exe --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 12:28, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

::: Thanks philip for hosting it but remember i made it[[User:Pertmywert|Joel]]|[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Pertmywert|Contributions]]

:::: Pertmywert has sent me the new version: http://phlip.websiteallies.com/Stinkoman_20X6_Install_v3.exe - I'll keep the v2 one up incase anyone's interested. --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 23:44, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

I already have a great working editor for this game, a new version has just been released. Check it out here: http://www.geocities.com/joesarcade/stinkoman.zip or here: http://joesarcade.hopto.org:8093/stinkoman.zip

Can someone please make a level editor compatible with MacOS?--[[User:Darklinkskywalker|Darklinkskywalker]] 20:38, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

*OH WHAT THE CRAP!!!! Do need Flash or something for this? Not Flash Player, but the animator thingie? Every time I click on a link it doesnt work!!! PLEASE HELP!!!

:Which links are you trying to click on, the ones in this section, the ones on the [[Stinkoman 20X6]] page, or the ones on my user page? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 16:50, 4 August 2005 (BST)

== Closed STUFF ==

These Fun Facts were on STUFF and declined. If you want to discuss these facts, please make sure your votes are seperate from the original ones.

===Stlunko===
Stlunko, the world 3 boss, could very well be modeled after...
* ...the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko.
* ...Gamma from ''Mega Man 3''.
* ...Rudy, the final boss of ''Wario Land 3''.
* ...Kerozene, a boss added to the [[Wikipedia:Game Boy Advance|Game Boy Advance]] version of ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest''.
*'''Decline.''' If this isn't a TTATOT, I don't know what is. --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''', you're not trying hard enough - I'm sure you could think of lots more bosses that involve fists somehow if you tried... --[[User:phlip|phlip]] 20:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I usually like these kind of Fun Facts, but it sounds like you're just not trying here. Pick one. [[User:TakuaKaita600|TK600]] 20:08, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
***Well, if '''I''' had to pick one, I'd definitely pick the first one; it's what the original one stated, and mentioning only that wouldn't be such a TTATOT. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:23, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
===Rose Blake===
When SB says "rose face" in #125, it sounds slightly like "rose blake" in stinkoman game.

*'''Double Decliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiined!''' Seriously, can we stop stretching Fun Facts as far as they can possibly be stretched? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Slightly like? Oh, man! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 15:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline for the pudgy! Decline for the pudgy!''' -- [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 16:55, 28 Apr 2005
*'''Gimme a D-cline.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
===Black Spots===
Stinkoman doesn't have any black spots on his cheeks for the ripped off sprites

*'''Decline''' Maybe if I understood what this was saying I might like it more, but it still doesn't seem right. What do you guys think? -- [[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 20:32, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Declininated''' I don't get it. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 17:10, 19 Apr 2005
*'''Allow me''' I THINK what is being said is this:
The black portion of Stinkoman's mask is missing in his sprite form, because
it is a ripoff of Megaman sprites.
*However, this is pretty useless AND false (it's not a ripoff of Megaman sprites, just strongly based on them.) Most old, small sprites lack detail seen in their fully-drawn form. So I must concur with '''Decline'''. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*And you can't see Mario's nostrils in Super Mario Bros. So? '''Let's Declining Love''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 23:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you asking for a Decline?!?''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 00:30, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline''' If you look at the bottom of Stinkoman's white area you can see little black lines so this 'fact' is false [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
===Tampo===
The name Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.

*'''Decline'''This is very doubtful. Tempura is a big stretch, sure the manual says Tampo is as mean as he is delicious, but that hardly connects Tampo and tempura. And ''tempo''?? Tampo has nothing to do with tempo or even anything musical. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
** '''Comment''' Well, it IS a Mega Man parody, and many Mega Man characters are named for musical terms (Rock & Roll, Blues [in Japan], Bass, Treble, Forte [in Japan], Gospel [in Japan], Rush, Tango, Beat, Punk, Enka/Enker, Quint, Ballad(e), Duo... and I'm probably forgetting a few.) Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that Tampo was named for the term "tempo" - it probably wasn't - but it's not outside the realm of possibility. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
***'''Decline''' The creators of Megaman had music in mind when they made the character. They said so. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 06:03, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Big stretch in both cases. And a '''Comment''' to [[User:Ogog|Ogog]], make sure that your comments are bulleted and that you show your vote as Accept or Decline. Also, make sure you remove the STUFF'd item when you put it on this page. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. Er, the vote, that is. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:44, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Sleckhund.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:24, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Er...''' The meaning of Tempo might be he is going faster.
*'''Comment''' Or it could also be a reference to tampons... Um, actually, no, forget that I said that.

Dude, Whomever thought of ths had no idea of an alternative. Maybe it's a bad translation. Or he isn't very mean and also doesn't taste very good.

===Brody===
Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.

*'''Decline'''Aside from Brody's legs and coloring, this isn't true. And the legs and coloring don't hold much water on their own, seeing as how: A. Birds' legs look something like that and are often illustrated that way. B. Every other chicken in Level 2 is colored yellow, and chickens are often illustrated to be yellow anyway. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:35, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Panzerschrecken'd.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:26, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:09, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.'''-and Ogog, the size is more-or-less in proportion as well.

===Engrish===
The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

*'''Decline'''There is absolutely no need to point this out. Yet another fun fact that's too obvious. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Weak Accept''' I do agree that is kind of obvious, but this does constitute a valid reference. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''; noted at the top of the page. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:43, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
**Thanks for immortalizing the fact into my fragile little mind, fact-writer. '''All Your Second Are Belong To Us''' [[User:SP'd|SP'd]]
**'''Second the Decrine.''' --[[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 23:28, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 16:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*Zero Wing is far from the first instance of Engrish. Come on. '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:34, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
===Stone Fist===
When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!

*'''Decline'''Same as the "More Levels" fun fact listed above. Obvious and not noteworthy as a fun fact. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Accept''' Same as my comment above - since the game has no Transcript, it's useful as a fact. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. This doesn't show that there will be new levels. That's what the screen AFTER the cutscene's for. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:41, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Accept!''' [[User:http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Extremejon|Extremejon]]
*I'm wearing clothes, does that mean for sure I'm going out? '''Decline''' [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:33, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**Well that depends. If you're wearing clothes that are made of magnetic material with a strong attraction to a magnetic field just outside an open window that you're standing next to, then it might be safe to assume that you're going out.
*'''Decline''' Now noted in the walkthrough transcript --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Second''' [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:43, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I think it is pretty much already stated. --[[User: Lappy 486]]
**And now that more levels are actually coming out, saying more levels will come out is completely useless. [[user: lappy 486]]
*'''Decline''' Now that a new level using the stone fist has been released, this is utterly useless. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 22:06, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
===Control Scheme===
The poor control scheme (a to jump, s to fire) may be another Mega Man reference, this time to the Mega Man Anniversary Collection which included Mega Man 1-8. On the Gamecube version, the controls for fire and jump were also messed up. (a to fire, b to jump) This eventually ended up with many frusterated gamers who intented to jump over a bottomless pit, but instead fired their plasma buster instead.
*'''Decline'''. This has got to be a joke. Poor control scheme? Tons of computer games use cursor keys as directions and a and s as action buttons. Also it is not uncommon to see the action buttons in the same order, with jump on the left and attack on the right. Additionally, many gamers choose a and s as their main buttons when setting up games and emulators and have no joypad. I'm sorry for whoever got burned by Mega Man, but this really isn't the place for it. -[[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 11:52, 22 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:MZilla|MZilla]] 23:18, 22 Mar 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline'''. The control scheme for Stinkoman 20X6. Whoever wrote this was probably mad at MMAC and just wanted to get it out of his system. I really don't see what the problem is. I have that game, and in a few minutes I was fully adapted to the weirdish control scheme, no problem. -[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 05:21, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second'''. I, too, have that game, and it came almost second nature. It's not a "poor" control sceme. --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 15:41, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''', mostly because it's irrelevant (although I DID hate that reversed control scheme in ''MMAC''...). --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 17:39, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Second and a comment'''. Hey, the Jump-with-B, Shoot-with-A scheme worked for Metroid Prime, why not MMAC? :P Hehe, oh well. :) -[[User:JakeARoonie|JakeARoonie]] 16:28, 02 Apr 2005 (CST)
*'''Decline''' This is waaay too big of a stretch. [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:26, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline w/Comment''' I've been playing MMAC on the Gamecube recently. The button layout is not that convoluted at all - once you get used to it, it's second-nature. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 03:21, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' I didn't think that MMAC or Stinkoman 20X6's control schemes were "poor". Sorry you got frustrated, but looking here, the majority didn't. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 14:01, 8 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Accept''' As a video game lover, I've gotta say that I am pretty used to using the right-most button to jump and the left-most button to fire. Just water this fact down a bit. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Declorne''' Uh... so? [[User:SP|SP]]

===Stoves===
Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.

*'''Decline'''To quote geoguy: What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline''' This is quite presumptuous - how do we know that gas stoves would have become osbolete? --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 15:38, 26 Mar 2005 (MST)
*'''Decline''' maybe 20x6 is 2006... ever thought of that, smart guy? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 02:32, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)
*'''Decline''' Assumption! 20X6 can be anything from 2006-2096, and I hardly think gas will run out before next year. Though the 20X6 world looks much more futuristic, it's not proven that gas runs out in the Homestar Universe, like Ogog said. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 19:28, 7 Apr 2005 (MDT)
**'''Comment''' 20x6 could also be 20106. Maybe by that time more oil will be found.
***'''Response.''' 20x6 is NOT 20106. I've always found the "x" to mean that it's a wildcard, meaning it could be 2006, 2016, 2026, etc. - as in [[time capsule]], it's highly unlikely that a Number One Jam cassette or a gross old wig in a time capsule wouldn't have decomposed in 18,000 years. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]]
****Actually, its very likely since plastic, and many fabrics dont decompose at all. The magnetic tape in the casette might have decomposed but that wouldnt have mattered because Stinkoman ate the casette, not played it.--[[User:-erson|-erson]] 23:40, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
***But doesnt a Capital X mean the greek number for 10, and a miniscule x stand for a variable? --[[User:-erson|-erson]] 18:48, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****A capital X signifies a ''Roman'' numeral 10. And variables are ''usually'' lowercase, but if you don't have a character set with upper- and lowercase letters (like most old video games), then you just have to make do with what you got. (See also [[Rabbit Algebra]], which seems to mix the two.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
****Does anyone else feel that 20X6 is simply a brilliant joke? Don't try to place it into a timeline, just leave it silly, as it is. --J
*'''Decline.''' Does the author of this FF purport to have insider knowledge of TBC's ''fictitious'' world? [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 01:10, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline'''I'll quote myself, damnit! just kidding, quote me all you want. But, to reiterate, What's the big deal? I feel that Homestar Runner's world is on a different plane of reality. It obviouslty is, but in saying on the official Wiki page that gas stoves are supposed to be obsolete by 20X6? What is 20X6? 2016? Gas is most likely to run out in 2025 in OUR world. In Homestar's world, there may be abundant reserves of oil. Have you ever seen anyone drive a car(for real) in Free Country, USA? They may well use mainly solar power.--[[User:geoguy91|geoguy91]] 01:06, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Ladder difference ===
{{stufffact|The ladders in level 5.2 look slightly different from those of level 5.1.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:34, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)|19:08, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)|revised and accepted|4|2|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Different Colors ===
{{stufffact|The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)|00:56, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|5|0|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Tiny eye difference ===
{{stufffact|The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different to the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)|01:00, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)|revised and accepted|5|1|Stinkoman 20X6}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Liekand's magic powers ===
{{stufffact|Liekand is also reminiscent of the game Magic Pockets, in which the character's attack is a bouncing tornado that can spit out smaller tornadoes.}}
{{stuffverdict|12:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)|02:15, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|5|0|Stinkoman 20X6}}

== Weird glitch. ==

My brother's a big fan of this game. One day, long ago, we we're checking out the Continue Menu, and ALL THE LEVELS WERE THERE!!!!
My brother noticed the strange thing that happened, and swore that he didn't make all this happen. He didn't have a clue of what was going on. Then I thought, ''This is obviously a rare glitch. I didn't do anything.'' So now when I see "stinkoman level <#>!" on the
main page, I go the game and click "CONTINUE" and I check it out. Pretty cool, huh? I'm just wondering if anyone else expierenced this glitch. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 20:14, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:That's not a glitch. Everyone can access all the levels, at all times. The only time when levels were hidden was when there were only three. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:19, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Well, also, you can't access stage #.2 until you beat #.1. But you can access all of the #.1s at any time. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:20, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::Right, forgot about that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:22, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh yeah, and when a new level is released, the previously released one's .2 is now accessible. - [[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]]
I see. That's probably also why my grandmother's computer has it too. Oh welll. List of levels my brother hasn't beaten yet:

Levels:

*5.2 (It's pretty hard, my brother can't get though the uptants in a row)

*7.2 (My brother has beaten this level at grandmother's, but when we came back it was gone.)

*8.1 (For some reason, it came out today. My brother can't play it because he's still asleep. That, and the computer can't access the game.)

*8.2 (Ditto.)

Bosses:

*Tampo (Even if it's the first level boss. it was supposed to be easy.)
*Nebulon (If you can't beat the .2 level, you can't see/beat the boss.)
*The Liekand (He has seen it, though.)
*An Ice Machine (Ditto with The Leikand.)
*Unnamed Boss (For the reason he can't play Level 8.)

G'bye. --[[User:oopsyoubwokeit|oopsyoubwokeit]] 13:17, 1 Aug 2005 (UTC)

*Well, TBC are assuming you've beat all the levels so far, and doesn't want good players to get frustrated at playing the levels all over again each time stinkoman updates. --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 00:56, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Let me get ths straight. You were able to gain access to all of the levels? How did you do it? Were you able to get to level 10? -[[User:Lotionman|Lotionman]] 07:51, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)Lotionman
: This is 100% normal. You can reach stage 1 of every level no matter what, at least, since level 4 was released. Of course he wasn't able to get to level 10. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:10, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== XML Page ==

Should we make a page for the stinkoman XML files? --{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 07:44, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:[[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|I already did.]] And it includes the externalSwf files as well. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 12:45, 2 August 2005 (BST)

::I mean a proper page and not a user page like Stinkoman/XML --{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 22:19, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Fall and die?==

I'm playing a web version (from i-am-bored.com), and all that happens is that Stinkoman falls down the screen and dies, no ground, no bosses, WTF is going on?

Don't even acronym swears, and just use the one of Homestar runner.com those web ones are unrealiable. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:My guess is that they only saved stinkogame.swf without the levelData or externalSwf files. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 02:48, 3 August 2005 (BST)

::how can a normal person (like me) save everything onto their (my) computer?--[[User:StrongBad110990|StrongBad110990]] 18:19, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Your best bet is to download [[User:phlip|phlip]]'s Stinkoman 20X6 Cheat Program, then run nocheater.html. You can find it [[Forum:3336|here]]. It's a lot easier than grabbing a list of links from [[User:Venusy#Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman 20X6|somewhere]], and saving them into the appropriate folders. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 19:53, 9 August 2005 (BST)

:Look for Venusy's Complete list of files used to mod Stinkoman, then download all those files. And another thing; don't use WTF. Use WTC. It makes you sound more like a true Homestar Runner fan.

: I had this happen in the middle of the game while playing from homestarrunner.com . I was at the level 1 boss (the giant brain). I had 2 lives left. I died. When it started over, Stinkoman fell and kept falling. And the game was over. Must've been some kind of glitch I guess.--DrPepperMD 9/24/05.

==Strange Storyline==
Well, the storyline's kinda getting dull since Pan-pan was kidnapped. Almost all the levels 4-10 is/will be about rescuing pan-pan (and starting level 7, 1-up too. ) TBC, this is an awesome game, but the story... --[[User:Gooblies|Gooblies]] 14:06, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stinkoman is emulating 8-bit platformers. "Rescue Pan-Pan" IS the story. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:01, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Thank you Stinkoman! But our panda is in another castle! ;) --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 17:50, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Besides, as you may have noticed, even Stinkoman admits the plot is utterly predictable. Although, even though the PLOT might be predictable, chances are, if -0 or 3 are any indication, the level scenarios won't be. :) --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 23:03, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Another possible Negatory level reference?==
I'm not adding this to the item page, but if someone can verify what I'm remembering and thinks it's useful, then add it to the "Real World References" for the Level -0 (Negatory) world. I seem to remember that in the original NES Metroid, with just an autofiring controller (ah, NES Advantage, we had good times, yes?), you could get wedged in a door, then collapse/expand rapidly and climb up through the wall. If you did this on one particular door, you would go up into a very strange and frankly hazardous area that was all messed up (sounding a lot like that lost Sonic level). It was easy to get stuck, and I don't think any of the doors worked properly. Anyone remember what I'm talking about? If so, it's perhaps another possible reference like that Sonic world, with the advantage that no Game Genie or anything was required to get to it. -- DLR, Aug 3 2005, 1:00pm

:The reference to Hidden Palace is dubious at best. Hidden Palace is nothing like Negatory World. The Game Genie version is such that the entire thing looks like nothing but static (since the HPZ graphics were removed from the final cartridge) and the Sonic 2 Beta version is not glitched, just unfinished. Do you have any links for the Metroid reference? I'm not familiar with that. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:32, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Here's one reference: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Metroid#Metroid.27s_Hidden_Worlds Wikipedia: Metroid Talk]. And a [http://www.classicgaming.com/mdb/m1/met-map.txt technical explainer] on Metroid's map structure and why it's a glitch, not a true "hidden area". It's interesting stuff, but admittedly probably not a direct inspiration for the Negatory world. -- DLR, [[User:216.41.87.210|216.41.87.210]] 23:48, 6 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I do think it may be a reference to Hidden Palace, because there are [http://www.sws2b.com/zones/hidden_palace_final screenshots] of it. They do look similar to -0. In both versions, the level is incomplete, but in the beta ROM which I have, the graphics are not messed and it is easier to play. Level 8 more than probably has something to do with this Zone. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 14:53, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I've played HPZ, too, and don't see the resemblance. Neither version is particularly glitchy; one has missing graphics and one has perfect graphics but is ''unfinished''. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 17:52, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I still like to think that Level -0 is a reference to the 'Glitch City' bug in Pokémon Red/Blue versions. The randomly generated graphics are similar, as is the ability to defy the game's physics (example: Stinkoman can stand on the air at the beginning of the lever, and you could Surf through solid objects in the Glitch City bug). Also, there are many points in Glitch City where your character could become trapped in a place that seems solid, just like the opening cut-scene where Stinkoman was stuck in the wall. TBC have made Pokémon references before (Cheatachu, anyone?), and the glitchy nature of the first Pokémon games are widely known. Now, I wouldn't go so far as to compare Ekersby with Missingno., but the parallels between Level -0 and Glitch City are very similar.
But, with all that in mind, Super Mario Bros.'s Minus World was still the first thing to come to mind. Glitch City occurred to me just as soon as I started playing the level. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

BUT, in the Sonic 2 Beta ROM, act 2 of HPZ puts you stuck inside a wall. That MUST have ''something'' to do with it. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 18:01, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Stuck inside a wall comes from Minus World. You know, Minus World, Negatory Level... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:19, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

But you're not '''stuck''' in it, you slide through it until you come out the other side. --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:02, 4 Aug 2005 (UTC)

And Stinkoman doesn't slide through the wall to get out, he Stinkoblasts (is that a good name?) it. Wonder what that might be a reference to? --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 02:07, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== This might need archival ==

Am I the only one who thinks the talk page on here is getting a LITTLE too big for its britches? I mean, cripes, look at the length of the TOC. That's pretty ridiculous; one entire page of scrolling down before you actually reach text. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 01:36, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I vote for moving everything that hasn't been changed since the start of July or so to [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive]] or somesuch... I can do it now if noone else wants to. {{User:phlip/sig}} 04:39, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::I concur. It really is too long. Go right ahead and archive it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
If this does get archived (<s>and I'm not necessarily saying it should</s>), you shouldn't move the threads based on date. You should move the ones that should have been posted on the forum. Anything related to actually maintaining the page (for example, closed STUFF), should stay. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:56, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Okay, so after a second viewing under the tutelage of Pom Pom's keen eyes, I see that most of this page is idle chatter. I'm all for archiving it. But, like I said before, anything wiki-related should stay, no matter the date. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:02, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

There we go... Everthing here has been edited recently or is (IMO) still relevant... I might have been a bit overzealous, feel free to move anything back if need be. (I got edit conflicted with your message, IDC, I'll take another look soon, I just want to get this edit in) {{User:phlip/sig}} 05:20, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I've made the archives cleaner. Please feel free to add templates and keep moving more pages. I am done for now and since it's 4:20 I need to go to bed! Please also read what I posted on the [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#Messy_Page|Messy Page]] section for those who are concerned about that. Good night! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:23, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Levls to co me ==

I've noticed that there is aglitched up "more levels to come" sign at teh end of level -0. Plesae picture! --anony

I've noticed thatyou are "not logged in" so y dont u log in. Plesae log in! --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:48, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Ha! Good one! Anyway, COME is spelled C OME on that screen, not CO ME. And the music that usually plays on the normal, non-glitched version stutters frequently, or so it seems, because I seek-bar'd my way to that screen, and it stuttered like that. It's all like, (mocking music) "bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow bowbaow-bowbaow-bowbaowwwwwbowbowbow", etc. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 01:49, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Level 9 ==

What do you think level nine will be? My guess is an underwater bored.

It could also be underground cave. I hope level 10 is something like "''The Doomsday Zone''" from "''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''" --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:51, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I've got a few good ones. One is "The castle" or "Spelunking" or "Candyland" or even "The desert," or "The swamp". [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

Or maybe it'll be a "flying through the jungle level". Turbolence sounds like the kinda name for a level like that. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 10:03, 29 Aug 2005 (CST)

==The Flow==

I've noticed that owhen you start level 1.2 (maybe the others work as well) on the TRY LEVEL! screen, it says something about YOU GOTTA GO WITH THE FLOW or something like that. I can't read it cause it flashes too fast. Can anyone get a snapshot of it? — {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:41, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Two Questions==

I just got a seek bar, and I was looking around in the Flash file. Here are some questions:
#Is the music meant to skip like that at the "MORE LEVELS TO COME" (in this case, "MORE LEVLS TO C OME") screen, or is it because I was messing around?
#<del>Where in the Flash file is Undefined.Undefined?</del> Found it.
--[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 01:50, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

It's meant to sound like that - since it comes just after the [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0|glitch level]]. {{User:phlip/sig}} 01:52, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Oh. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 02:02, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Astromund trash can lid? ==

I don't really know, this is a real stretch. I remember when I was a kid I used to play this MS-DOS game callled: "Math Rescue". It was about numbers being stolen by these aleins called gruzzles, but you could take hits without dying if you had trash can lids, used as shields. Does that have relation to the Stinkomanuel? [[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

== Undefined.Undefined? ==

Where the heck is that level? I can't find it!

Do you have a seek bar? If you don't, you'll need to get one to be able to view that level. Why do you need to? It's just a grey hole. Oh and by the way... Where the heck do I get a seek bar? I can't find one! I've tried downloading it before but it just says "No scripatable flash on this page." --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:43, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Bookmark the button, or for you <shaking-green-text>Internet Explorer</shaking-green-text> users, add it to your favorites. Then go around to the end of the flash file, and you'll find Undefined.Undefined. And it's not a grey hole, it's a black hole. --[[User:Strong Rad|Strong Rad]] 20:50, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I added it to my favorites (bookmarks on firefox, but that's on my other 'puter still won't work) but nothing happens! How do I get it to work? --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 02:46, 28 Aug 2005 (UTC)

You have IE? Cuz then you have to add the Seek Bar for IE to your favorites. And you can't use it on the swf.

I have IE 5, Netscape 7, and Firefox 1.0.6 but on fire fox, I add it to my personal toolbar, and when I'm on the page, I click it, and it replies, once again, with "No scriptable flash on this page". And it says IE for WINDOWS, not Mac, so I can't get it to work. I try and try but nothing happens.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 00:06, 1 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I just moved the seek bar to the same position as the s in characters and all the music started playing, what looked like part of the object library was on the screen, and even part of the flash for ekersby sprites morphing. I dunno what the seek bar has against the game and the games menu, but it's so weird. [[User:Seek Bar|Seek Bar]]

I have a seek bar, but how do I use it? I click it on my personal toolbar bookmarks when I go to the stinkogame.html on homestarrunner.com, but I can't get it to work. Why is that? --{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 23:39, 3 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Am I supposed to drag the seek bar from bookmarks to the web page? hurry up and answer plz, I'm impatient. I have it on Netscape, Mozilla, and IE.--{{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 00:09, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Hmm... why don't you test it out to see if that's what you're supposed to do... In other words, yes, you drag it. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 01:19, 4 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Still didn't work. Are they Mac compatible? {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== New from Brother Chaps. Inc.!! ==

NEW STINKOMAN LEVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put it up on the main page so every one knows, please. --Anony

THAT'S KINDA OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We always put that kinda stuff on the [[Template:whatsnew|whatsnew template]] {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:00, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Shots ==

The firey shots now go strait, no longer going down while going forward.
: Not entirely true; they do drop a little, but they also go full-screen instead of just a short distance like they used to. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:53, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== How many hits? ==

How many freakin' hits does it take to kill Harvax?

:13 or 14. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 23:08, 5 September 2005 (BST)

Thank you. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

== Version 7.0 - 7.1 ==

Did anybody notice when the notice in the bottom right corner changed from 7.0 to 7.1? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 09:27, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I did. Maybe it was a smalll update, like a bug fix or a stinkomanual update. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 15:02, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I believe 7.1 was a bug fixing version. From memory, it corrected level -0.4 from showing up after defeating Ekersby. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 22:09, 7 September 2005 (BST)

==I can't find the 9.3 boss!==

Whenever i reach the flag, nothing happens and I just keep flying through an infinite level! Anybody have any idea whats going on/what to do?

I've had this problem, but only on the cheat version. I have absolutely NO idea of what's going on. I had a theory but forgot it. {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 22:26, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== ...The new punching?! ==

Who else here doesn't like the new punching?? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]

== Messy Page ==
The whole fun fact section of this page is a mess. I'm thinking we need to delete some facts, maybe move some pages, stuff like that. Like individual boss fun facts chould go in their own section in the enemies page. And I think a page should be set up of a list of all the "Try Level" "Game Over" and "More Levels To Come" scenes. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

:It is a bit messy. I'll try sweeping the floor.
:...
:But seriously, yea. Too much info. We need to have a [[garage sale]] or something. I'll maybe try to do a bit of work on the page. Probably a few more Fun Facts subsections are needed, as well as maybe an 'updates section', for the little things they change every time they update. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:07, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::The fun facts should be split into levels wherever possible, and a bunch of other changes. I was kinda waiting for the game to be finished before proposing any radical alterations. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Would it be okay to remove all of the "when the game was first made, it was like this. it was later changed" type messages? Shouldn't the guide just talk about how the game is now?--DrPepperMD

::We have precedent for keeping records of when things change, but that's mostly because the toons and such don't change often - this game changes regularly... Perhaps split them off to yet another page? I'm willing to do that now if there's no objections. {{User:phlip/sig}} 03:56, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::I had another look - I don't think there are enough "in a previous version..." facts to warrant its own page, but I still don't think they should be removed. Perhaps group them all together under a "changes" heading or something... {{User:phlip/sig}} 11:10, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:'''Hi!''' I have two points I'd like to talk about (sorry, I'm not really mentioning anything new).
:*This TALK page is indeed still messy. I think we should archive ''again'' everything except the Closed (STUFF), XML and couple of most recent (like level 9) conversations. Oh! and this section of course. I'd do it, but um, I hate to ask... how do you archive things again?
::*The Main page has its archives broken in pieces of 20, and has its own template and everything, I think this talk page merits that kind of organization.
:*Um yeah the page is kinda bloated. I was thinking making actual ''level'' pages for most stuff (we already have the walkthroughs, which the level pages can point to) like [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. I think it's doable at least for the early stages, and since the game is presumably nearly complete. That or Real World references should have its own page. So what should it be, individual level pages or Real World references? :D
::*Organizing the page now, will save us the headache of updating it later, when it's even more bloated. Adding to a new infrastructure isn't necessarily that much harder.
: Thank you guys for your time!
: --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:50, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
: I have organized the talk [[Talk:Stinkoman_20X6#This_might_need_archival|archives]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:24, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I definitely like the separate Real World References page! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:38, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I have reorganized some of the sections, is it clean enough to remove the cleanup tag? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:24, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::It is not even close to being clean. You have been doing a '''great''' jorb on this, but it is still to big for its own good. We should probably take out the updates and break the FFs into smaller sections. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Some good examples of shortening is that we need to make either A: A Big Fun fact page or B: Seperate articles for all the facts and references.

== ??!!Stinkomanuel!!?? ==

It-It's at level 5 again!!! What the crap just happened?!? - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]]

== REALLY SLOW ==
This game runs REEEAAALLY slow on my computer! Does anyone else have that problem? Even at school on P4 computers it seems slow. What kind of computers do you need to play this? [[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 19:43, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff bad? ==

What's wrong with the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman 20X6 - CUSTOM LEVELS|fanstuff]] [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION|links]]? [[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] says it's "wiki policy," but I don't see anything against fanstuff in the [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]]. {{User:Trogga/sig}}
:I agree with you. It's "External Links", not "H*R Links." But I can see why some wouldn't like it. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

::I'm not sure exactly where I read it, but you can take it to the administrators if you want. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 18:49, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure you read it in an old discussion of the page - where an admin said that no fanstuff related ''pages'' and ''fun facts'' should be made. (i.e. a guide to custom levels; a factoid on how you can do something with a cheat version) - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
::If I remember correctly it was a sysop edit summary just a few days ago, but if you really want to add it again, I'll stop reverting. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 19:00, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Here's examples I found. These may be what you are talking about: [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6/Archive#Add an article on custom levels.3F|here]] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&diff=138917&oldid=138711 here]. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 19:02, 16 Sep 2005 (UTC)

We don't link to fanstuff because (1) as a knowledge base, we should only list official sources as external links, (2) we don't have any real info on fanstuff nor do we have any control of its content, and (3) if we allowed person A's fanstuff on this page, then we'd have to allow the fanstuff of persons B, C, D, E, and everyone else on all the other pages, and that is not the point of this wiki, nor should keeping up with and policing things like that be one of our chores. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:46, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

You're Insane, man! I liked those links! Besides, Trogga and Joshua are right! Those links were useful, Fanstuff or not! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:The cheat version may be bad, but the custom levels are public fanstuff from multiple users, and I think they should stay. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

Any glitches that can only be accessed with the cheat version or in custom levels should be treated like out-of-the-frame glitches in the toons - they were not intended to be seen by the public, so there's no reason to allow for them. That is, if there's something that happens because something is not specifically catered for (eg 1-Up kicking a Stafulter) it should not be mentioned here (though it could be mentioned on the [[HRFWiki:Stinkoman_20X6_-_CHEAT_VERSION#Quirks|fanstuff entry's page]]). If there is something intentional that can only be accessed this way (like the cabbage enemy was) then it should be mentioned, as a remark or as appropriate on another Stinkoman 20X6 page. Linking to the custom levels here would in my mind be the same as linking to [[HRFWiki:Other Character Email|Other Character Email]] or suchlike from the [[Strong Bad Email]] page, and would easily set a precedent for every fanstuff (or even just each category of fanstuff would be bad enough) being linked to from the H*R thing it was inspired by. {{User:phlip/sig}} 17:09, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

But what's the point of (fanstuff) interwiki links if we're not going to use them? {{User:Trogga/sig}}

Yeah, if we're not supposed to link to fanstuff, then, ''Oh! Why don't we'' '''blow the fanstuff link off the face of that side template thingy''' if we're "not supposed to link to fanstuff"! See? it's ridiculous!! Take ''that'', It's dot com! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:There's a difference between "linking to the fanstuff site from this site" to "linking to a fanstuff page ''from an article'' on this site" - the ''articles'' are supposed to make a ''knowledge base'' containing ''facts'' about ''H*R''. However the site as a whole contains the knowledge base, the forum, the fanstuff, the chat channel, etc... so links between them ''outside the articles themselves'' are still good. {{User:phlip/sig}}

:Take it easy, FaceCrap. It's not an extremely good idea to talk like that. — {{User:Lapper/sig}}

:Yeah, I guess not. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

So,''anyway'', if no one's said anything against the Fanstuff links for days, why hasn't somebody put them back? I would, but if it were a good idea to, somebody probably would've already. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:I am against putting the fanstuff links there. People should just visit fanstuff themselves. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 14:05, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Well, you ''can'' just go to the external links part of the side template, true, but it might be easier to have direct links on the bottom of the page. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]]

:So what, we have to be actively posting here all the time saying "I still don't want the fanstuff links there" after the discussion seems settled? OK, to make it explicit: I think they should not be there, and I will continue to think they should not be there until such a time as I specifically post saying otherwise. Until then, take it as read that I am posting here regularly saying they should not be there. {{User:phlip/sig}} 16:02, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== 9.1 intro ==

Can anyone remember what game this is parodying? Where it shows the castle and then pans across to the character standing on a rock.

I remember this from a NES game I used to own but cant remember what :(

:Some Megaman games have it... - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 11:40, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::There's also the some what popular Sega game Rocket Night Adventures, and it looks alomost just like that, except he looks at the kingdom then a giant pig head appears and laughs. [[User:Bassium!|Bassium!]]

== Level 8 ==

I know people have commented on the whole level 7,-0,9 thing. I think I has the solution. After Level 10, TBC are likely to go back and do a level 8 as somewhat of a lost level. I'm dissapointed there was no swimming level, so this might be where it comes in ( Level 10 defenitely won't be such a level. I'll bet anyone my entire life savings [being $8.42] that 10 will be a Bowser's Keep type deal)---[[User:RatherAnnoying]]
: Level -0 ''is'' level 8, just not called that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:06, 21 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Cutscene Before 9.3 ==

So, doesn't anyone think that noting that there is no cutscene before 9.3 is too obvious? There's no cutscene before An Ice Machine either, and nobody cared about that! Who put that fact up, anyway? -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 00:34, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I agree. We should either put both facts up, or none of 'em. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:13, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Easter Eggs==

:I know it wouldn't do much, but to help clean up, couldnt we move the easter eggs onto the levels in which they're on? For instance, for the "snot bubble" easter egg, couldnt we just keep that on the "Oh! The moon!" page? --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:11, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::I don't think we need the snot bubble one there. We already recorded it on [[Stinkoman 20X6 Playable Characters]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Stinkoman Labels ==

Personally, I think there should be some kind of consistency among the level titles. If we are to change the level 8's to level -0's, we should do that throughout the entire page and not just to one of the titles. I changed it back because, having two dashes -0-9 doesnt' exactly look pretty, and it would look even worse if we had (-0)-9, as I had seen once before (if my memory serves me right). Please accept my apologies but I will change it back to the way I had it for the aformentioned reason. If it is deemed better to have all level 8 labels turned into -0 label, then it should be done across the board. Thanks.--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:36, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:My vote is too change all '''-0''' tags into '''8'''s. I find the -0 title confusing when being used among other levels. This is probably especially true for newbies. 8 is just much simpler. And it's not entirely inaccurate either - Level 8 ''is'' called Level 8 in the Stinkomanual. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: But the ''game itself'' calls it Level -0. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:47, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: To me that says that the game creators (that would be TBC) both call it level 8 and level -0. However, my first issue still stands: ''consistency''. Having several titles call it level 8 and only one or two (or even half) level -0 is inconsistent and looks bad. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:50, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::: Do we have titles that call it level 8? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: We go by -0. I don't understand why people care about it. We go by the official site, and the site calls it -0. Oh, and I think the walkthrough says -0/8. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 17:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::: To answer my own question, we did. I came up with a solution that not only fixed that, but also fixes the "double hyphen" problem. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: What the walkthrough says doesn't matter - it can be changed. Basically, the official site calls it -0 '''AND''' 8. So we could go either way without "official site relevance" problems. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::: Yes, this is true, but one is in the manual (which has lots of other intentional mistakes) and the other is in the game itself. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::I was gonna post this till you guys beat me to it (twice! I had 2 edit conflicts):
::::::''Pretty much every main title that refers to it under Trivia, remarks (before the change) and inside references. There is a snippet in the flash [[Stinkoman_20X6#General|information]] that calls it episode 8 (this i beleive is original TBC wording) and further below 8/-0, and ... and that's it!
::::: and I like your solution! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:58, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the manual itself is kind of inconsistant. I agree with Jay. And furthermore, I think -0 sums up the level better too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::: Working heavily on the Stinkoman 20X6 levels, I must say -0 is a great inconvience. When we can choose between convient and inconvient, why do we pick the harder one? It seems that TBC used -0 on the level selection screen and "TRY LEVEL" screen and 8 everywhere else. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:02, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Define "everywhere else." All I see was the manual, which was already mentioned, and the "What's New" box from the day before, where they didn't want to give away the new level. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:09, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Not to mention ''" It said "V6.0 EPISODES 1-8" until September 5, 2005, when the ninth level was added."'' Although level and episode are two slightly different things. Yes, I know I'm being slightly repetitive. I do like the new wording a lot though! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Ok, I think that we can live with some itty bitty inconviences in our articles. -0 makes much more sense than 8, and is called -0 on the site. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:59, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::I don't exactly see what you're talking about with -0 making more sense. -0 is much more inconvenient than 8, and we've already established that TBC call it both. I vote '''8'''. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:13, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Strong Bad is a Bad Guy

Anonomys — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:57:57 GMT

Anonomys: /* Pic's */

== The Field? ==
I know it's a little early on to be worrying about this, but I've gone ahead and labeled the place where SB, SM and The Cheat are as [[The Field]], although I'm doubting that it is. New page? Label it "A Field" without linking? Two cents? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Well, it looks like the field to me, just without bushes. The entire art style in this toon is a naturally a little off. I think it's the field, but I wouldn't care if you called it something different. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'm for keeping it as [[The Field]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:'''Second'''-I also think that it should be kept as [[The Field]].[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Easter Eggs? ==

Since we haven't gotten the direct Flash file yet, I can't use the seek bar to find Easter eggs. By the looks of it, I don't think there are any, but our good annonymous IP who crated the page apparently says there is ([{Strong Sad]] (Eater egg)). Any other way? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:56, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I fount the Flash file! Yay! http://www.homestarrunner.com/badguy.swf {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:01, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::w00t. <s>By the looks of it, though, there are no Easter eggs.</s> Ah, we found one. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Two, actually. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:24, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== A Revelation for Homestar? ==

I'm not sure if this is important, but is this the first time that someone has mentioned to Homestar (or Homestar has admitted to himself) that he doesn't have arms? I know Strong Bad has mentioned his armlessness before, but always when alone and not within earshot of Homestar himself. I dunno if this counts as an important bit of data or not, but I just wanted to throw it out. [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 16:21, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I think that this is an important fact too. I'm going to [[STUFF]] it.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:25, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::In [[fingers]], it was implied that Homestar knows about his situation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:58, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Actually, the 'implied' part in fingers is part of Strongbad's imagination no? (as shown by the dream bubbles and such). So it'd be little more then Strongbad again saying to himself that Homestar is harmless. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Actually, my outlook on Homestar's "arms" are that they are obviously invisible. He carries things all the time. In fact, sometimes it is questionable about the invisible arms since in The Show, he can hold the microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle them at the same time. But all these prove that he has invisible arms.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:It almost seems that he can telekinetically move anything within a set range, as characters walking by (or crowding aroud) him never seem to run into his arms.={{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I agree, it'd also explain Old Timey Homestar has not only no arms, but no shoulder sockets for his invisible arms to be linked to. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::It could be that he is blissfully unaware of the fact that he has "no arms", much like he is unaware of the fact that his pants are invisible (or nonexistent.) [[User:24.138.54.79|24.138.54.79]] 01:51, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I too have always thought telekinesis. Invisible arms is a tad elaborate, and telekinesis would explain how he is able to hold a microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle the cards all at the same time. It's not like Homestar has a really powerful mind and thus is able to use telekinesis, it's just his way of making up for having no arms. Though, alternately, I like the idea that because Homestar is so unaware of his lack of arms, he is able to pick things up without having arms, i.e., he "forgets" his lack of arms and acts like he can pick things up, and it works for some reason. ("How did you walk through that wall?" "I was able to because I forgot to use my laws of physics.") --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]
:I have always seen two (2) possable answers to this. one (1) is that he has (at least) four (4) invisable arms. two (2) is that he has limited telikenisis. I also think that this has always been implied.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Don't be a Hater ==

After listening twice, I think the lyrics actually say "Strong Bad ''paints'' Marzipan", as opposed to "hates". I distinctly hear an N sound in there. This would also match up well with [[origins]], a previous time when Strong Bad spray painted Marzipan. What say the rest of you? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I hear an "h" sound in the beginning. It's hard to tell, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:52, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Both make perfect since, so it's really just a matter of listening. On that note, I do hear an "h" sound, as well. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I hear '''paint'''. We could make a footnote, like we did with [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::::Ugh, not another footnote. Let's get some more opinions here before even thinking about going down that road. I heard "hates," by the way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:59, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:As all the other lyrics match up exactly with the illustrations, "paints" seems more plausible.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I'm hearin' "hates" dude. [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
::Hearing "hates" here too [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]]
:::LOL—I heard "Strong Bad '''is''' Marzipan on my first listen! That had me kinda confused. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I heard it three times, it is very faint, but I am pretty sure I heard '''hates'''. I am 100% sure that they did not say ''paint'', as the "p" sound was nowhere to be heard. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I also hear "hates." {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:16, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

"Hates". --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

Another vote for "hates." -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 14:10, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

2 votes for "Paints", 11 for "Hates" including me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I heard hates (I wrote the transcript) ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:41, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. --[[User:B|B]] 18:14, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Just to clarify, I also vote Hates for Town Council. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:17, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I hear "hates" too. Besides, that makes more sense considering that Strong Bad is spraying black paint over a picture of Marzipan, as in defacing it. "Paints" just doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me.--[[User:Spanky The Dolphin|Spanky The Dolphin]] 23:32, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:I vote "hates"-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Tricked Out Van ==

I figured that the van in the music video could reference the tricked out van Strong Bad mentioned in the [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. What do you think? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 12:17, 17 Oct 2005
:That certainly sounds plausible to me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I'd [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] it, though. I'm for it, but some may not approve.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::In fact, it's currently already there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I just noticed that. Heh. I'm a genius.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Song visuals==

Why is it, that with things such as [[Experimental Film]] and [[rock opera]], we split the music from the visuals, but here we put 'em all in the transcript? Is there some sort of standard at all? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:It's because those two have several '''minutes''' of nothing but visuals and lyrics. This one is pretty short so the visuals can be insite the transcript. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:29, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, we generally split them for large ones. There's no set standard, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::I'm not really sure I like it that way. I think we should do it one way or the other for consistency. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Well, the visuals usually get in the way of simply reading the song, but they are important for a knowledge base that collects as much info as possible. I think it's fine the way it is, but if we had to choose one way or the other, I'd go with a seperate page for visuals. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:03, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:what do you mean by "it's already there"?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:50, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==Dooj?==

Anyone know what the rocket laucher "Dooj" is about?
:It could just be a sound effect.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I think "dooj" may be a variant (or the actual spelling of) the word "doosh" Strong Bad uses occasionally. (See [[Random Toon]] and [[TROGDOR!]]) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Don't forget [[The System Is Down (song)]]! — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== This Toon ==
Is this toon even on the site? Where? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
:It's a Short. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Also, check the main page. Look under "back to our roots". If that doesn't work, do a hard refresh and try again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:Back to Our Roots? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
::You're not in conversation. If you missed something, read the message again. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:57, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::On the rotating "What's new!" button.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:It's under "Shorts" on the Toons page. {{User:Camalex/sig}} 20:40, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:either look under "shorts" for "strong bad is a bad guy" or the "what's new" button for "back to our roots". it comes up as a seperate window within the window when you open it (like the pupet stuff).-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:53, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Of Snake Ladies, Nagas, and Warcraft ==

Snake/Human hybrids are, of course, not constrained to Warcraft and date back to Indian and Asian mythology. In fact, the name Naga isn't even constrained to Warcraft and denotes a wide variety of snake like mythical creatures in southern Asia. I propose the dropping of that particular reference and letting the Cheat's snake lady just be a product of his imagination rather than yet another spurious reference.
:I agree. I've never even heard of Warcraft, but I ''have'' heard of nagas before. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I agree, I have heard of Warcraft, but I also remember them in Final Fantasy games before Warcraft...Hmmm, FFII and III were SNES games as was Mario Paint...reference? Probably not.--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 22:38, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:My guess is that they got the reference from all those video games you guys mentioned. It might be more of a referene to the genre in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it speaks to the remarkably limited scope of knowledge possessed by the people who visit this site :) -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] 18:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:prehaps the brothers chaps thought it was just cool-lookin'-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:54, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==Bad Guy!==
Considering this is a toon described "Going back to our roots", Isn't the entire basis of the toon is a reference to how StrongBad was more of a villian earlier on in the series? Maybe? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Yeah—reasserting his identity now that he's become the vulnerable, personable, lovable scamp who charmed his way into the hearts of a nation. No, seriously, you're right. (Not that it should go in the article, but good observation.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I thought about that, but he really doesn't act like a villain. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I totally agree with that, 20X6 GEM. I was about to leave a similar note here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Possible, but I'm thinking it is props to the [[Super NES|first Homestar Runner cartoon ever made]], which was done in Mario Paint, as has already been referencecd. Even though Strong Bad's vilinitude is not what it used to be, he's still the antagonist, and this short doesn't have the feel of, say, [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)]]. --[[User:B|B]] 18:21, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

P.S.
Isn't StrongBad bouncing on his Head a reference to the SBEmail [[funny]]? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Reference, no. Interesting, though! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it was very interesting. Does anyone else think so? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 01:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I seriously think The bouncing one his head was a reference to when he did it in "Funny"! "Liko Liko Liko!!!" [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:it sadens me to see how off-topic people can get in a message bored-type thing that allows you to edit.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:56, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pic's ==

Could someone please give me pics of SB talking as in when he says "A glowy box? Are you sure that's what you'd get for your tattoo?" and when SM is talking, please? [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Count_X | Apocalpyx Zeta]

:Erm. Read the transcript? {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:by "pics" do you meen pictures?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:57, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Richey Edwards reference? ==

"The For Real Deal"-tattoo may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Richey James Edwards|Richey Edwards]], and the infamous interview he did with [[Wikipedia:NME|NME]] journalist [[Wikipedia:Steve Lamacq|Steve Lamacq]]. Lamacq asked Edwards if he and his band [[Wikipedia:Manic Street Preachers|Manic Street Preachers]] were serious about their music. Edwards tried to convince Lamacq by carving "4-real" into his forearm.
:I agree...it's a pretty unmistakable reference, in my opinion. I'm going to [[Template:STUFF/Strong_Bad_is_a_Bad_Guy|put it on the STUFF page]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:More about the incident [http://microsites.nme.com/rock100/site/8.html here]. [[User:Lazmo|Lazmo]] 15:38, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sing us a Song ==

Anyone have an idea where the song comes from? It sounds incredibly familiar, but I can't place it. --[[User:B|B]] 18:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Also, I want to know if the intro music is related to the Trogdor game—specifically those little upward-swooping beepy notes (I know, you'd expect a better description from a musician)? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pipe or Bat ==

In the transcript, it says Strong Bad hits the muffler with a bat (it ''is'' brown). Later, in the Inside references, it is called a pipe (which ''has'' been used before. Which is it? My vote is pipe, given the inside reference. Others? --[[User:B|B]] 18:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:It's so pixellated it's hard to tell, even zoomed in, but:
#although I can't say for sure it's perfectly cylindrical (i.e. not tapered like a bat), I think it would be even harder to say that it's tapered;
#if it is a bat, it has some kind of dealie at the end, like lines painted on it. I think those are supposed to be pipe threads.
#Strong Bad's holding it right in the middle (although that isn't very efficient no matter what it is). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'd say it's a pipe for three reasons: A. a pipe/muffler combo has been used before, 2. a bat would be hard to dent a muffler with, and D. the reasons AbdiViklas already said. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I put bat in the transcript because it was brown and I didn't look at it that closely. A pipe seems reasonable too though. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:31, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==soap==
when sb mentions soap, it's a reference to dove brand soap.-stretchyman

Um...Why do you think it's Dove? I think you're stretching it, stretchyman (ooo...bad joke). Can you find any evidence that it's Dove? [[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 20:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

dove is the only type of soap that strong bad knows about.-stretchyman

Talk:Strong Bad is a Bad Guy

Anonomys — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:56:46 GMT

Anonomys: /* Bad Guy! */

== The Field? ==
I know it's a little early on to be worrying about this, but I've gone ahead and labeled the place where SB, SM and The Cheat are as [[The Field]], although I'm doubting that it is. New page? Label it "A Field" without linking? Two cents? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Well, it looks like the field to me, just without bushes. The entire art style in this toon is a naturally a little off. I think it's the field, but I wouldn't care if you called it something different. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'm for keeping it as [[The Field]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:'''Second'''-I also think that it should be kept as [[The Field]].[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Easter Eggs? ==

Since we haven't gotten the direct Flash file yet, I can't use the seek bar to find Easter eggs. By the looks of it, I don't think there are any, but our good annonymous IP who crated the page apparently says there is ([{Strong Sad]] (Eater egg)). Any other way? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:56, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I fount the Flash file! Yay! http://www.homestarrunner.com/badguy.swf {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:01, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::w00t. <s>By the looks of it, though, there are no Easter eggs.</s> Ah, we found one. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Two, actually. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:24, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== A Revelation for Homestar? ==

I'm not sure if this is important, but is this the first time that someone has mentioned to Homestar (or Homestar has admitted to himself) that he doesn't have arms? I know Strong Bad has mentioned his armlessness before, but always when alone and not within earshot of Homestar himself. I dunno if this counts as an important bit of data or not, but I just wanted to throw it out. [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 16:21, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I think that this is an important fact too. I'm going to [[STUFF]] it.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:25, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::In [[fingers]], it was implied that Homestar knows about his situation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:58, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Actually, the 'implied' part in fingers is part of Strongbad's imagination no? (as shown by the dream bubbles and such). So it'd be little more then Strongbad again saying to himself that Homestar is harmless. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Actually, my outlook on Homestar's "arms" are that they are obviously invisible. He carries things all the time. In fact, sometimes it is questionable about the invisible arms since in The Show, he can hold the microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle them at the same time. But all these prove that he has invisible arms.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:It almost seems that he can telekinetically move anything within a set range, as characters walking by (or crowding aroud) him never seem to run into his arms.={{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I agree, it'd also explain Old Timey Homestar has not only no arms, but no shoulder sockets for his invisible arms to be linked to. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::It could be that he is blissfully unaware of the fact that he has "no arms", much like he is unaware of the fact that his pants are invisible (or nonexistent.) [[User:24.138.54.79|24.138.54.79]] 01:51, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I too have always thought telekinesis. Invisible arms is a tad elaborate, and telekinesis would explain how he is able to hold a microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle the cards all at the same time. It's not like Homestar has a really powerful mind and thus is able to use telekinesis, it's just his way of making up for having no arms. Though, alternately, I like the idea that because Homestar is so unaware of his lack of arms, he is able to pick things up without having arms, i.e., he "forgets" his lack of arms and acts like he can pick things up, and it works for some reason. ("How did you walk through that wall?" "I was able to because I forgot to use my laws of physics.") --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]
:I have always seen two (2) possable answers to this. one (1) is that he has (at least) four (4) invisable arms. two (2) is that he has limited telikenisis. I also think that this has always been implied.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Don't be a Hater ==

After listening twice, I think the lyrics actually say "Strong Bad ''paints'' Marzipan", as opposed to "hates". I distinctly hear an N sound in there. This would also match up well with [[origins]], a previous time when Strong Bad spray painted Marzipan. What say the rest of you? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I hear an "h" sound in the beginning. It's hard to tell, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:52, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Both make perfect since, so it's really just a matter of listening. On that note, I do hear an "h" sound, as well. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I hear '''paint'''. We could make a footnote, like we did with [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::::Ugh, not another footnote. Let's get some more opinions here before even thinking about going down that road. I heard "hates," by the way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:59, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:As all the other lyrics match up exactly with the illustrations, "paints" seems more plausible.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I'm hearin' "hates" dude. [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
::Hearing "hates" here too [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]]
:::LOL—I heard "Strong Bad '''is''' Marzipan on my first listen! That had me kinda confused. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I heard it three times, it is very faint, but I am pretty sure I heard '''hates'''. I am 100% sure that they did not say ''paint'', as the "p" sound was nowhere to be heard. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I also hear "hates." {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:16, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

"Hates". --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

Another vote for "hates." -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 14:10, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

2 votes for "Paints", 11 for "Hates" including me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I heard hates (I wrote the transcript) ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:41, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. --[[User:B|B]] 18:14, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Just to clarify, I also vote Hates for Town Council. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:17, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I hear "hates" too. Besides, that makes more sense considering that Strong Bad is spraying black paint over a picture of Marzipan, as in defacing it. "Paints" just doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me.--[[User:Spanky The Dolphin|Spanky The Dolphin]] 23:32, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:I vote "hates"-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Tricked Out Van ==

I figured that the van in the music video could reference the tricked out van Strong Bad mentioned in the [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. What do you think? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 12:17, 17 Oct 2005
:That certainly sounds plausible to me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I'd [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] it, though. I'm for it, but some may not approve.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::In fact, it's currently already there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I just noticed that. Heh. I'm a genius.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Song visuals==

Why is it, that with things such as [[Experimental Film]] and [[rock opera]], we split the music from the visuals, but here we put 'em all in the transcript? Is there some sort of standard at all? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:It's because those two have several '''minutes''' of nothing but visuals and lyrics. This one is pretty short so the visuals can be insite the transcript. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:29, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, we generally split them for large ones. There's no set standard, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::I'm not really sure I like it that way. I think we should do it one way or the other for consistency. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Well, the visuals usually get in the way of simply reading the song, but they are important for a knowledge base that collects as much info as possible. I think it's fine the way it is, but if we had to choose one way or the other, I'd go with a seperate page for visuals. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:03, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:what do you mean by "it's already there"?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:50, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==Dooj?==

Anyone know what the rocket laucher "Dooj" is about?
:It could just be a sound effect.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I think "dooj" may be a variant (or the actual spelling of) the word "doosh" Strong Bad uses occasionally. (See [[Random Toon]] and [[TROGDOR!]]) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Don't forget [[The System Is Down (song)]]! — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== This Toon ==
Is this toon even on the site? Where? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
:It's a Short. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Also, check the main page. Look under "back to our roots". If that doesn't work, do a hard refresh and try again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:Back to Our Roots? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
::You're not in conversation. If you missed something, read the message again. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:57, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::On the rotating "What's new!" button.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:It's under "Shorts" on the Toons page. {{User:Camalex/sig}} 20:40, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:either look under "shorts" for "strong bad is a bad guy" or the "what's new" button for "back to our roots". it comes up as a seperate window within the window when you open it (like the pupet stuff).-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:53, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Of Snake Ladies, Nagas, and Warcraft ==

Snake/Human hybrids are, of course, not constrained to Warcraft and date back to Indian and Asian mythology. In fact, the name Naga isn't even constrained to Warcraft and denotes a wide variety of snake like mythical creatures in southern Asia. I propose the dropping of that particular reference and letting the Cheat's snake lady just be a product of his imagination rather than yet another spurious reference.
:I agree. I've never even heard of Warcraft, but I ''have'' heard of nagas before. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I agree, I have heard of Warcraft, but I also remember them in Final Fantasy games before Warcraft...Hmmm, FFII and III were SNES games as was Mario Paint...reference? Probably not.--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 22:38, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:My guess is that they got the reference from all those video games you guys mentioned. It might be more of a referene to the genre in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it speaks to the remarkably limited scope of knowledge possessed by the people who visit this site :) -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] 18:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:prehaps the brothers chaps thought it was just cool-lookin'-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:54, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==Bad Guy!==
Considering this is a toon described "Going back to our roots", Isn't the entire basis of the toon is a reference to how StrongBad was more of a villian earlier on in the series? Maybe? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Yeah—reasserting his identity now that he's become the vulnerable, personable, lovable scamp who charmed his way into the hearts of a nation. No, seriously, you're right. (Not that it should go in the article, but good observation.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I thought about that, but he really doesn't act like a villain. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I totally agree with that, 20X6 GEM. I was about to leave a similar note here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Possible, but I'm thinking it is props to the [[Super NES|first Homestar Runner cartoon ever made]], which was done in Mario Paint, as has already been referencecd. Even though Strong Bad's vilinitude is not what it used to be, he's still the antagonist, and this short doesn't have the feel of, say, [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)]]. --[[User:B|B]] 18:21, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

P.S.
Isn't StrongBad bouncing on his Head a reference to the SBEmail [[funny]]? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Reference, no. Interesting, though! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it was very interesting. Does anyone else think so? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 01:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I seriously think The bouncing one his head was a reference to when he did it in "Funny"! "Liko Liko Liko!!!" [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:it sadens me to see how off-topic people can get in a message bored-type thing that allows you to edit.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:56, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pic's ==

Could someone please give me pics of SB talking as in when he says "A glowy box? Are you sure that's what you'd get for your tattoo?" and when SM is talking, please? [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Count_X | Apocalpyx Zeta]

:Erm. Read the transcript? {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Richey Edwards reference? ==

"The For Real Deal"-tattoo may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Richey James Edwards|Richey Edwards]], and the infamous interview he did with [[Wikipedia:NME|NME]] journalist [[Wikipedia:Steve Lamacq|Steve Lamacq]]. Lamacq asked Edwards if he and his band [[Wikipedia:Manic Street Preachers|Manic Street Preachers]] were serious about their music. Edwards tried to convince Lamacq by carving "4-real" into his forearm.
:I agree...it's a pretty unmistakable reference, in my opinion. I'm going to [[Template:STUFF/Strong_Bad_is_a_Bad_Guy|put it on the STUFF page]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:More about the incident [http://microsites.nme.com/rock100/site/8.html here]. [[User:Lazmo|Lazmo]] 15:38, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sing us a Song ==

Anyone have an idea where the song comes from? It sounds incredibly familiar, but I can't place it. --[[User:B|B]] 18:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Also, I want to know if the intro music is related to the Trogdor game—specifically those little upward-swooping beepy notes (I know, you'd expect a better description from a musician)? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pipe or Bat ==

In the transcript, it says Strong Bad hits the muffler with a bat (it ''is'' brown). Later, in the Inside references, it is called a pipe (which ''has'' been used before. Which is it? My vote is pipe, given the inside reference. Others? --[[User:B|B]] 18:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:It's so pixellated it's hard to tell, even zoomed in, but:
#although I can't say for sure it's perfectly cylindrical (i.e. not tapered like a bat), I think it would be even harder to say that it's tapered;
#if it is a bat, it has some kind of dealie at the end, like lines painted on it. I think those are supposed to be pipe threads.
#Strong Bad's holding it right in the middle (although that isn't very efficient no matter what it is). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'd say it's a pipe for three reasons: A. a pipe/muffler combo has been used before, 2. a bat would be hard to dent a muffler with, and D. the reasons AbdiViklas already said. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I put bat in the transcript because it was brown and I didn't look at it that closely. A pipe seems reasonable too though. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:31, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==soap==
when sb mentions soap, it's a reference to dove brand soap.-stretchyman

Um...Why do you think it's Dove? I think you're stretching it, stretchyman (ooo...bad joke). Can you find any evidence that it's Dove? [[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 20:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

dove is the only type of soap that strong bad knows about.-stretchyman

Talk:Strong Bad is a Bad Guy

Anonomys — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:54:28 GMT

Anonomys: /* Of Snake Ladies, Nagas, and Warcraft */

== The Field? ==
I know it's a little early on to be worrying about this, but I've gone ahead and labeled the place where SB, SM and The Cheat are as [[The Field]], although I'm doubting that it is. New page? Label it "A Field" without linking? Two cents? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Well, it looks like the field to me, just without bushes. The entire art style in this toon is a naturally a little off. I think it's the field, but I wouldn't care if you called it something different. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'm for keeping it as [[The Field]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:'''Second'''-I also think that it should be kept as [[The Field]].[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Easter Eggs? ==

Since we haven't gotten the direct Flash file yet, I can't use the seek bar to find Easter eggs. By the looks of it, I don't think there are any, but our good annonymous IP who crated the page apparently says there is ([{Strong Sad]] (Eater egg)). Any other way? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:56, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I fount the Flash file! Yay! http://www.homestarrunner.com/badguy.swf {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:01, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::w00t. <s>By the looks of it, though, there are no Easter eggs.</s> Ah, we found one. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Two, actually. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:24, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== A Revelation for Homestar? ==

I'm not sure if this is important, but is this the first time that someone has mentioned to Homestar (or Homestar has admitted to himself) that he doesn't have arms? I know Strong Bad has mentioned his armlessness before, but always when alone and not within earshot of Homestar himself. I dunno if this counts as an important bit of data or not, but I just wanted to throw it out. [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 16:21, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I think that this is an important fact too. I'm going to [[STUFF]] it.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:25, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::In [[fingers]], it was implied that Homestar knows about his situation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:58, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Actually, the 'implied' part in fingers is part of Strongbad's imagination no? (as shown by the dream bubbles and such). So it'd be little more then Strongbad again saying to himself that Homestar is harmless. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Actually, my outlook on Homestar's "arms" are that they are obviously invisible. He carries things all the time. In fact, sometimes it is questionable about the invisible arms since in The Show, he can hold the microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle them at the same time. But all these prove that he has invisible arms.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:It almost seems that he can telekinetically move anything within a set range, as characters walking by (or crowding aroud) him never seem to run into his arms.={{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I agree, it'd also explain Old Timey Homestar has not only no arms, but no shoulder sockets for his invisible arms to be linked to. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::It could be that he is blissfully unaware of the fact that he has "no arms", much like he is unaware of the fact that his pants are invisible (or nonexistent.) [[User:24.138.54.79|24.138.54.79]] 01:51, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I too have always thought telekinesis. Invisible arms is a tad elaborate, and telekinesis would explain how he is able to hold a microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle the cards all at the same time. It's not like Homestar has a really powerful mind and thus is able to use telekinesis, it's just his way of making up for having no arms. Though, alternately, I like the idea that because Homestar is so unaware of his lack of arms, he is able to pick things up without having arms, i.e., he "forgets" his lack of arms and acts like he can pick things up, and it works for some reason. ("How did you walk through that wall?" "I was able to because I forgot to use my laws of physics.") --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]
:I have always seen two (2) possable answers to this. one (1) is that he has (at least) four (4) invisable arms. two (2) is that he has limited telikenisis. I also think that this has always been implied.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Don't be a Hater ==

After listening twice, I think the lyrics actually say "Strong Bad ''paints'' Marzipan", as opposed to "hates". I distinctly hear an N sound in there. This would also match up well with [[origins]], a previous time when Strong Bad spray painted Marzipan. What say the rest of you? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I hear an "h" sound in the beginning. It's hard to tell, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:52, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Both make perfect since, so it's really just a matter of listening. On that note, I do hear an "h" sound, as well. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I hear '''paint'''. We could make a footnote, like we did with [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::::Ugh, not another footnote. Let's get some more opinions here before even thinking about going down that road. I heard "hates," by the way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:59, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:As all the other lyrics match up exactly with the illustrations, "paints" seems more plausible.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I'm hearin' "hates" dude. [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
::Hearing "hates" here too [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]]
:::LOL—I heard "Strong Bad '''is''' Marzipan on my first listen! That had me kinda confused. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I heard it three times, it is very faint, but I am pretty sure I heard '''hates'''. I am 100% sure that they did not say ''paint'', as the "p" sound was nowhere to be heard. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I also hear "hates." {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:16, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

"Hates". --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

Another vote for "hates." -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 14:10, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

2 votes for "Paints", 11 for "Hates" including me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I heard hates (I wrote the transcript) ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:41, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. --[[User:B|B]] 18:14, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Just to clarify, I also vote Hates for Town Council. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:17, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I hear "hates" too. Besides, that makes more sense considering that Strong Bad is spraying black paint over a picture of Marzipan, as in defacing it. "Paints" just doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me.--[[User:Spanky The Dolphin|Spanky The Dolphin]] 23:32, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:I vote "hates"-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Tricked Out Van ==

I figured that the van in the music video could reference the tricked out van Strong Bad mentioned in the [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. What do you think? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 12:17, 17 Oct 2005
:That certainly sounds plausible to me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I'd [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] it, though. I'm for it, but some may not approve.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::In fact, it's currently already there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I just noticed that. Heh. I'm a genius.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Song visuals==

Why is it, that with things such as [[Experimental Film]] and [[rock opera]], we split the music from the visuals, but here we put 'em all in the transcript? Is there some sort of standard at all? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:It's because those two have several '''minutes''' of nothing but visuals and lyrics. This one is pretty short so the visuals can be insite the transcript. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:29, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, we generally split them for large ones. There's no set standard, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::I'm not really sure I like it that way. I think we should do it one way or the other for consistency. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Well, the visuals usually get in the way of simply reading the song, but they are important for a knowledge base that collects as much info as possible. I think it's fine the way it is, but if we had to choose one way or the other, I'd go with a seperate page for visuals. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:03, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:what do you mean by "it's already there"?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:50, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==Dooj?==

Anyone know what the rocket laucher "Dooj" is about?
:It could just be a sound effect.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I think "dooj" may be a variant (or the actual spelling of) the word "doosh" Strong Bad uses occasionally. (See [[Random Toon]] and [[TROGDOR!]]) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Don't forget [[The System Is Down (song)]]! — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== This Toon ==
Is this toon even on the site? Where? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
:It's a Short. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Also, check the main page. Look under "back to our roots". If that doesn't work, do a hard refresh and try again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:Back to Our Roots? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
::You're not in conversation. If you missed something, read the message again. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:57, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::On the rotating "What's new!" button.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:It's under "Shorts" on the Toons page. {{User:Camalex/sig}} 20:40, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:either look under "shorts" for "strong bad is a bad guy" or the "what's new" button for "back to our roots". it comes up as a seperate window within the window when you open it (like the pupet stuff).-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:53, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Of Snake Ladies, Nagas, and Warcraft ==

Snake/Human hybrids are, of course, not constrained to Warcraft and date back to Indian and Asian mythology. In fact, the name Naga isn't even constrained to Warcraft and denotes a wide variety of snake like mythical creatures in southern Asia. I propose the dropping of that particular reference and letting the Cheat's snake lady just be a product of his imagination rather than yet another spurious reference.
:I agree. I've never even heard of Warcraft, but I ''have'' heard of nagas before. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I agree, I have heard of Warcraft, but I also remember them in Final Fantasy games before Warcraft...Hmmm, FFII and III were SNES games as was Mario Paint...reference? Probably not.--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 22:38, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:My guess is that they got the reference from all those video games you guys mentioned. It might be more of a referene to the genre in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it speaks to the remarkably limited scope of knowledge possessed by the people who visit this site :) -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] 18:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:prehaps the brothers chaps thought it was just cool-lookin'-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:54, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==Bad Guy!==
Considering this is a toon described "Going back to our roots", Isn't the entire basis of the toon is a reference to how StrongBad was more of a villian earlier on in the series? Maybe? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Yeah—reasserting his identity now that he's become the vulnerable, personable, lovable scamp who charmed his way into the hearts of a nation. No, seriously, you're right. (Not that it should go in the article, but good observation.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I thought about that, but he really doesn't act like a villain. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I totally agree with that, 20X6 GEM. I was about to leave a similar note here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Possible, but I'm thinking it is props to the [[Super NES|first Homestar Runner cartoon ever made]], which was done in Mario Paint, as has already been referencecd. Even though Strong Bad's vilinitude is not what it used to be, he's still the antagonist, and this short doesn't have the feel of, say, [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)]]. --[[User:B|B]] 18:21, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

P.S.
Isn't StrongBad bouncing on his Head a reference to the SBEmail [[funny]]? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Reference, no. Interesting, though! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it was very interesting. Does anyone else think so? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 01:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I seriously think The bouncing one his head was a reference to when he did it in "Funny"! "Liko Liko Liko!!!" [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]

== Pic's ==

Could someone please give me pics of SB talking as in when he says "A glowy box? Are you sure that's what you'd get for your tattoo?" and when SM is talking, please? [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Count_X | Apocalpyx Zeta]

:Erm. Read the transcript? {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Richey Edwards reference? ==

"The For Real Deal"-tattoo may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Richey James Edwards|Richey Edwards]], and the infamous interview he did with [[Wikipedia:NME|NME]] journalist [[Wikipedia:Steve Lamacq|Steve Lamacq]]. Lamacq asked Edwards if he and his band [[Wikipedia:Manic Street Preachers|Manic Street Preachers]] were serious about their music. Edwards tried to convince Lamacq by carving "4-real" into his forearm.
:I agree...it's a pretty unmistakable reference, in my opinion. I'm going to [[Template:STUFF/Strong_Bad_is_a_Bad_Guy|put it on the STUFF page]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:More about the incident [http://microsites.nme.com/rock100/site/8.html here]. [[User:Lazmo|Lazmo]] 15:38, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sing us a Song ==

Anyone have an idea where the song comes from? It sounds incredibly familiar, but I can't place it. --[[User:B|B]] 18:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Also, I want to know if the intro music is related to the Trogdor game—specifically those little upward-swooping beepy notes (I know, you'd expect a better description from a musician)? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pipe or Bat ==

In the transcript, it says Strong Bad hits the muffler with a bat (it ''is'' brown). Later, in the Inside references, it is called a pipe (which ''has'' been used before. Which is it? My vote is pipe, given the inside reference. Others? --[[User:B|B]] 18:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:It's so pixellated it's hard to tell, even zoomed in, but:
#although I can't say for sure it's perfectly cylindrical (i.e. not tapered like a bat), I think it would be even harder to say that it's tapered;
#if it is a bat, it has some kind of dealie at the end, like lines painted on it. I think those are supposed to be pipe threads.
#Strong Bad's holding it right in the middle (although that isn't very efficient no matter what it is). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'd say it's a pipe for three reasons: A. a pipe/muffler combo has been used before, 2. a bat would be hard to dent a muffler with, and D. the reasons AbdiViklas already said. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I put bat in the transcript because it was brown and I didn't look at it that closely. A pipe seems reasonable too though. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:31, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==soap==
when sb mentions soap, it's a reference to dove brand soap.-stretchyman

Um...Why do you think it's Dove? I think you're stretching it, stretchyman (ooo...bad joke). Can you find any evidence that it's Dove? [[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 20:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

dove is the only type of soap that strong bad knows about.-stretchyman

Talk:Strong Bad is a Bad Guy

Anonomys — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:53:01 GMT

Anonomys: /* This Toon */

== The Field? ==
I know it's a little early on to be worrying about this, but I've gone ahead and labeled the place where SB, SM and The Cheat are as [[The Field]], although I'm doubting that it is. New page? Label it "A Field" without linking? Two cents? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Well, it looks like the field to me, just without bushes. The entire art style in this toon is a naturally a little off. I think it's the field, but I wouldn't care if you called it something different. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'm for keeping it as [[The Field]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:'''Second'''-I also think that it should be kept as [[The Field]].[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Easter Eggs? ==

Since we haven't gotten the direct Flash file yet, I can't use the seek bar to find Easter eggs. By the looks of it, I don't think there are any, but our good annonymous IP who crated the page apparently says there is ([{Strong Sad]] (Eater egg)). Any other way? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:56, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I fount the Flash file! Yay! http://www.homestarrunner.com/badguy.swf {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:01, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::w00t. <s>By the looks of it, though, there are no Easter eggs.</s> Ah, we found one. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Two, actually. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:24, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== A Revelation for Homestar? ==

I'm not sure if this is important, but is this the first time that someone has mentioned to Homestar (or Homestar has admitted to himself) that he doesn't have arms? I know Strong Bad has mentioned his armlessness before, but always when alone and not within earshot of Homestar himself. I dunno if this counts as an important bit of data or not, but I just wanted to throw it out. [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 16:21, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I think that this is an important fact too. I'm going to [[STUFF]] it.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:25, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::In [[fingers]], it was implied that Homestar knows about his situation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:58, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Actually, the 'implied' part in fingers is part of Strongbad's imagination no? (as shown by the dream bubbles and such). So it'd be little more then Strongbad again saying to himself that Homestar is harmless. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Actually, my outlook on Homestar's "arms" are that they are obviously invisible. He carries things all the time. In fact, sometimes it is questionable about the invisible arms since in The Show, he can hold the microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle them at the same time. But all these prove that he has invisible arms.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:It almost seems that he can telekinetically move anything within a set range, as characters walking by (or crowding aroud) him never seem to run into his arms.={{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I agree, it'd also explain Old Timey Homestar has not only no arms, but no shoulder sockets for his invisible arms to be linked to. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::It could be that he is blissfully unaware of the fact that he has "no arms", much like he is unaware of the fact that his pants are invisible (or nonexistent.) [[User:24.138.54.79|24.138.54.79]] 01:51, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I too have always thought telekinesis. Invisible arms is a tad elaborate, and telekinesis would explain how he is able to hold a microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle the cards all at the same time. It's not like Homestar has a really powerful mind and thus is able to use telekinesis, it's just his way of making up for having no arms. Though, alternately, I like the idea that because Homestar is so unaware of his lack of arms, he is able to pick things up without having arms, i.e., he "forgets" his lack of arms and acts like he can pick things up, and it works for some reason. ("How did you walk through that wall?" "I was able to because I forgot to use my laws of physics.") --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]
:I have always seen two (2) possable answers to this. one (1) is that he has (at least) four (4) invisable arms. two (2) is that he has limited telikenisis. I also think that this has always been implied.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Don't be a Hater ==

After listening twice, I think the lyrics actually say "Strong Bad ''paints'' Marzipan", as opposed to "hates". I distinctly hear an N sound in there. This would also match up well with [[origins]], a previous time when Strong Bad spray painted Marzipan. What say the rest of you? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I hear an "h" sound in the beginning. It's hard to tell, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:52, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Both make perfect since, so it's really just a matter of listening. On that note, I do hear an "h" sound, as well. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I hear '''paint'''. We could make a footnote, like we did with [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::::Ugh, not another footnote. Let's get some more opinions here before even thinking about going down that road. I heard "hates," by the way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:59, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:As all the other lyrics match up exactly with the illustrations, "paints" seems more plausible.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I'm hearin' "hates" dude. [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
::Hearing "hates" here too [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]]
:::LOL—I heard "Strong Bad '''is''' Marzipan on my first listen! That had me kinda confused. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I heard it three times, it is very faint, but I am pretty sure I heard '''hates'''. I am 100% sure that they did not say ''paint'', as the "p" sound was nowhere to be heard. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I also hear "hates." {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:16, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

"Hates". --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

Another vote for "hates." -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 14:10, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

2 votes for "Paints", 11 for "Hates" including me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I heard hates (I wrote the transcript) ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:41, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. --[[User:B|B]] 18:14, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Just to clarify, I also vote Hates for Town Council. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:17, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I hear "hates" too. Besides, that makes more sense considering that Strong Bad is spraying black paint over a picture of Marzipan, as in defacing it. "Paints" just doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me.--[[User:Spanky The Dolphin|Spanky The Dolphin]] 23:32, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:I vote "hates"-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Tricked Out Van ==

I figured that the van in the music video could reference the tricked out van Strong Bad mentioned in the [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. What do you think? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 12:17, 17 Oct 2005
:That certainly sounds plausible to me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I'd [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] it, though. I'm for it, but some may not approve.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::In fact, it's currently already there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I just noticed that. Heh. I'm a genius.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Song visuals==

Why is it, that with things such as [[Experimental Film]] and [[rock opera]], we split the music from the visuals, but here we put 'em all in the transcript? Is there some sort of standard at all? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:It's because those two have several '''minutes''' of nothing but visuals and lyrics. This one is pretty short so the visuals can be insite the transcript. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:29, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, we generally split them for large ones. There's no set standard, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::I'm not really sure I like it that way. I think we should do it one way or the other for consistency. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Well, the visuals usually get in the way of simply reading the song, but they are important for a knowledge base that collects as much info as possible. I think it's fine the way it is, but if we had to choose one way or the other, I'd go with a seperate page for visuals. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:03, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:what do you mean by "it's already there"?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:50, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==Dooj?==

Anyone know what the rocket laucher "Dooj" is about?
:It could just be a sound effect.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I think "dooj" may be a variant (or the actual spelling of) the word "doosh" Strong Bad uses occasionally. (See [[Random Toon]] and [[TROGDOR!]]) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Don't forget [[The System Is Down (song)]]! — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== This Toon ==
Is this toon even on the site? Where? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
:It's a Short. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Also, check the main page. Look under "back to our roots". If that doesn't work, do a hard refresh and try again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:Back to Our Roots? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
::You're not in conversation. If you missed something, read the message again. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:57, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::On the rotating "What's new!" button.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:It's under "Shorts" on the Toons page. {{User:Camalex/sig}} 20:40, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:either look under "shorts" for "strong bad is a bad guy" or the "what's new" button for "back to our roots". it comes up as a seperate window within the window when you open it (like the pupet stuff).-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:53, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Of Snake Ladies, Nagas, and Warcraft ==

Snake/Human hybrids are, of course, not constrained to Warcraft and date back to Indian and Asian mythology. In fact, the name Naga isn't even constrained to Warcraft and denotes a wide variety of snake like mythical creatures in southern Asia. I propose the dropping of that particular reference and letting the Cheat's snake lady just be a product of his imagination rather than yet another spurious reference.
:I agree. I've never even heard of Warcraft, but I ''have'' heard of nagas before. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I agree, I have heard of Warcraft, but I also remember them in Final Fantasy games before Warcraft...Hmmm, FFII and III were SNES games as was Mario Paint...reference? Probably not.--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 22:38, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:My guess is that they got the reference from all those video games you guys mentioned. It might be more of a referene to the genre in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it speaks to the remarkably limited scope of knowledge possessed by the people who visit this site :) -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] 18:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==Bad Guy!==
Considering this is a toon described "Going back to our roots", Isn't the entire basis of the toon is a reference to how StrongBad was more of a villian earlier on in the series? Maybe? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Yeah—reasserting his identity now that he's become the vulnerable, personable, lovable scamp who charmed his way into the hearts of a nation. No, seriously, you're right. (Not that it should go in the article, but good observation.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I thought about that, but he really doesn't act like a villain. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I totally agree with that, 20X6 GEM. I was about to leave a similar note here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Possible, but I'm thinking it is props to the [[Super NES|first Homestar Runner cartoon ever made]], which was done in Mario Paint, as has already been referencecd. Even though Strong Bad's vilinitude is not what it used to be, he's still the antagonist, and this short doesn't have the feel of, say, [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)]]. --[[User:B|B]] 18:21, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

P.S.
Isn't StrongBad bouncing on his Head a reference to the SBEmail [[funny]]? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Reference, no. Interesting, though! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it was very interesting. Does anyone else think so? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 01:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I seriously think The bouncing one his head was a reference to when he did it in "Funny"! "Liko Liko Liko!!!" [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]

== Pic's ==

Could someone please give me pics of SB talking as in when he says "A glowy box? Are you sure that's what you'd get for your tattoo?" and when SM is talking, please? [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Count_X | Apocalpyx Zeta]

:Erm. Read the transcript? {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Richey Edwards reference? ==

"The For Real Deal"-tattoo may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Richey James Edwards|Richey Edwards]], and the infamous interview he did with [[Wikipedia:NME|NME]] journalist [[Wikipedia:Steve Lamacq|Steve Lamacq]]. Lamacq asked Edwards if he and his band [[Wikipedia:Manic Street Preachers|Manic Street Preachers]] were serious about their music. Edwards tried to convince Lamacq by carving "4-real" into his forearm.
:I agree...it's a pretty unmistakable reference, in my opinion. I'm going to [[Template:STUFF/Strong_Bad_is_a_Bad_Guy|put it on the STUFF page]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:More about the incident [http://microsites.nme.com/rock100/site/8.html here]. [[User:Lazmo|Lazmo]] 15:38, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sing us a Song ==

Anyone have an idea where the song comes from? It sounds incredibly familiar, but I can't place it. --[[User:B|B]] 18:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Also, I want to know if the intro music is related to the Trogdor game—specifically those little upward-swooping beepy notes (I know, you'd expect a better description from a musician)? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pipe or Bat ==

In the transcript, it says Strong Bad hits the muffler with a bat (it ''is'' brown). Later, in the Inside references, it is called a pipe (which ''has'' been used before. Which is it? My vote is pipe, given the inside reference. Others? --[[User:B|B]] 18:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:It's so pixellated it's hard to tell, even zoomed in, but:
#although I can't say for sure it's perfectly cylindrical (i.e. not tapered like a bat), I think it would be even harder to say that it's tapered;
#if it is a bat, it has some kind of dealie at the end, like lines painted on it. I think those are supposed to be pipe threads.
#Strong Bad's holding it right in the middle (although that isn't very efficient no matter what it is). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'd say it's a pipe for three reasons: A. a pipe/muffler combo has been used before, 2. a bat would be hard to dent a muffler with, and D. the reasons AbdiViklas already said. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I put bat in the transcript because it was brown and I didn't look at it that closely. A pipe seems reasonable too though. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:31, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==soap==
when sb mentions soap, it's a reference to dove brand soap.-stretchyman

Um...Why do you think it's Dove? I think you're stretching it, stretchyman (ooo...bad joke). Can you find any evidence that it's Dove? [[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 20:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

dove is the only type of soap that strong bad knows about.-stretchyman

Talk:Strong Bad is a Bad Guy

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== The Field? ==
I know it's a little early on to be worrying about this, but I've gone ahead and labeled the place where SB, SM and The Cheat are as [[The Field]], although I'm doubting that it is. New page? Label it "A Field" without linking? Two cents? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Well, it looks like the field to me, just without bushes. The entire art style in this toon is a naturally a little off. I think it's the field, but I wouldn't care if you called it something different. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'm for keeping it as [[The Field]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:'''Second'''-I also think that it should be kept as [[The Field]].[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Easter Eggs? ==

Since we haven't gotten the direct Flash file yet, I can't use the seek bar to find Easter eggs. By the looks of it, I don't think there are any, but our good annonymous IP who crated the page apparently says there is ([{Strong Sad]] (Eater egg)). Any other way? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:56, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I fount the Flash file! Yay! http://www.homestarrunner.com/badguy.swf {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:01, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::w00t. <s>By the looks of it, though, there are no Easter eggs.</s> Ah, we found one. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Two, actually. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:24, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== A Revelation for Homestar? ==

I'm not sure if this is important, but is this the first time that someone has mentioned to Homestar (or Homestar has admitted to himself) that he doesn't have arms? I know Strong Bad has mentioned his armlessness before, but always when alone and not within earshot of Homestar himself. I dunno if this counts as an important bit of data or not, but I just wanted to throw it out. [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 16:21, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I think that this is an important fact too. I'm going to [[STUFF]] it.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:25, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::In [[fingers]], it was implied that Homestar knows about his situation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:58, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Actually, the 'implied' part in fingers is part of Strongbad's imagination no? (as shown by the dream bubbles and such). So it'd be little more then Strongbad again saying to himself that Homestar is harmless. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Actually, my outlook on Homestar's "arms" are that they are obviously invisible. He carries things all the time. In fact, sometimes it is questionable about the invisible arms since in The Show, he can hold the microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle them at the same time. But all these prove that he has invisible arms.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:It almost seems that he can telekinetically move anything within a set range, as characters walking by (or crowding aroud) him never seem to run into his arms.={{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I agree, it'd also explain Old Timey Homestar has not only no arms, but no shoulder sockets for his invisible arms to be linked to. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::It could be that he is blissfully unaware of the fact that he has "no arms", much like he is unaware of the fact that his pants are invisible (or nonexistent.) [[User:24.138.54.79|24.138.54.79]] 01:51, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I too have always thought telekinesis. Invisible arms is a tad elaborate, and telekinesis would explain how he is able to hold a microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle the cards all at the same time. It's not like Homestar has a really powerful mind and thus is able to use telekinesis, it's just his way of making up for having no arms. Though, alternately, I like the idea that because Homestar is so unaware of his lack of arms, he is able to pick things up without having arms, i.e., he "forgets" his lack of arms and acts like he can pick things up, and it works for some reason. ("How did you walk through that wall?" "I was able to because I forgot to use my laws of physics.") --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]
:I have always seen two (2) possable answers to this. one (1) is that he has (at least) four (4) invisable arms. two (2) is that he has limited telikenisis. I also think that this has always been implied.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Don't be a Hater ==

After listening twice, I think the lyrics actually say "Strong Bad ''paints'' Marzipan", as opposed to "hates". I distinctly hear an N sound in there. This would also match up well with [[origins]], a previous time when Strong Bad spray painted Marzipan. What say the rest of you? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I hear an "h" sound in the beginning. It's hard to tell, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:52, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Both make perfect since, so it's really just a matter of listening. On that note, I do hear an "h" sound, as well. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I hear '''paint'''. We could make a footnote, like we did with [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::::Ugh, not another footnote. Let's get some more opinions here before even thinking about going down that road. I heard "hates," by the way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:59, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:As all the other lyrics match up exactly with the illustrations, "paints" seems more plausible.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I'm hearin' "hates" dude. [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
::Hearing "hates" here too [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]]
:::LOL—I heard "Strong Bad '''is''' Marzipan on my first listen! That had me kinda confused. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I heard it three times, it is very faint, but I am pretty sure I heard '''hates'''. I am 100% sure that they did not say ''paint'', as the "p" sound was nowhere to be heard. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I also hear "hates." {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:16, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

"Hates". --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

Another vote for "hates." -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 14:10, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

2 votes for "Paints", 11 for "Hates" including me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I heard hates (I wrote the transcript) ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:41, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. --[[User:B|B]] 18:14, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Just to clarify, I also vote Hates for Town Council. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:17, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I hear "hates" too. Besides, that makes more sense considering that Strong Bad is spraying black paint over a picture of Marzipan, as in defacing it. "Paints" just doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me.--[[User:Spanky The Dolphin|Spanky The Dolphin]] 23:32, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:I vote "hates"-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Tricked Out Van ==

I figured that the van in the music video could reference the tricked out van Strong Bad mentioned in the [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. What do you think? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 12:17, 17 Oct 2005
:That certainly sounds plausible to me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I'd [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] it, though. I'm for it, but some may not approve.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::In fact, it's currently already there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I just noticed that. Heh. I'm a genius.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Song visuals==

Why is it, that with things such as [[Experimental Film]] and [[rock opera]], we split the music from the visuals, but here we put 'em all in the transcript? Is there some sort of standard at all? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:It's because those two have several '''minutes''' of nothing but visuals and lyrics. This one is pretty short so the visuals can be insite the transcript. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:29, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, we generally split them for large ones. There's no set standard, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::I'm not really sure I like it that way. I think we should do it one way or the other for consistency. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Well, the visuals usually get in the way of simply reading the song, but they are important for a knowledge base that collects as much info as possible. I think it's fine the way it is, but if we had to choose one way or the other, I'd go with a seperate page for visuals. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:03, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:what do you mean by "it's already there"?-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:50, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==Dooj?==

Anyone know what the rocket laucher "Dooj" is about?
:It could just be a sound effect.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I think "dooj" may be a variant (or the actual spelling of) the word "doosh" Strong Bad uses occasionally. (See [[Random Toon]] and [[TROGDOR!]]) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Don't forget [[The System Is Down (song)]]! — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== This Toon ==
Is this toon even on the site? Where? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
:It's a Short. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Also, check the main page. Look under "back to our roots". If that doesn't work, do a hard refresh and try again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:Back to Our Roots? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
::You're not in conversation. If you missed something, read the message again. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:57, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::On the rotating "What's new!" button.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:It's under "Shorts" on the Toons page. {{User:Camalex/sig}} 20:40, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Of Snake Ladies, Nagas, and Warcraft ==

Snake/Human hybrids are, of course, not constrained to Warcraft and date back to Indian and Asian mythology. In fact, the name Naga isn't even constrained to Warcraft and denotes a wide variety of snake like mythical creatures in southern Asia. I propose the dropping of that particular reference and letting the Cheat's snake lady just be a product of his imagination rather than yet another spurious reference.
:I agree. I've never even heard of Warcraft, but I ''have'' heard of nagas before. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I agree, I have heard of Warcraft, but I also remember them in Final Fantasy games before Warcraft...Hmmm, FFII and III were SNES games as was Mario Paint...reference? Probably not.--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 22:38, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:My guess is that they got the reference from all those video games you guys mentioned. It might be more of a referene to the genre in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it speaks to the remarkably limited scope of knowledge possessed by the people who visit this site :) -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] 18:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==Bad Guy!==
Considering this is a toon described "Going back to our roots", Isn't the entire basis of the toon is a reference to how StrongBad was more of a villian earlier on in the series? Maybe? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Yeah—reasserting his identity now that he's become the vulnerable, personable, lovable scamp who charmed his way into the hearts of a nation. No, seriously, you're right. (Not that it should go in the article, but good observation.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I thought about that, but he really doesn't act like a villain. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I totally agree with that, 20X6 GEM. I was about to leave a similar note here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Possible, but I'm thinking it is props to the [[Super NES|first Homestar Runner cartoon ever made]], which was done in Mario Paint, as has already been referencecd. Even though Strong Bad's vilinitude is not what it used to be, he's still the antagonist, and this short doesn't have the feel of, say, [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)]]. --[[User:B|B]] 18:21, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

P.S.
Isn't StrongBad bouncing on his Head a reference to the SBEmail [[funny]]? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Reference, no. Interesting, though! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it was very interesting. Does anyone else think so? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 01:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I seriously think The bouncing one his head was a reference to when he did it in "Funny"! "Liko Liko Liko!!!" [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]

== Pic's ==

Could someone please give me pics of SB talking as in when he says "A glowy box? Are you sure that's what you'd get for your tattoo?" and when SM is talking, please? [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Count_X | Apocalpyx Zeta]

:Erm. Read the transcript? {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Richey Edwards reference? ==

"The For Real Deal"-tattoo may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Richey James Edwards|Richey Edwards]], and the infamous interview he did with [[Wikipedia:NME|NME]] journalist [[Wikipedia:Steve Lamacq|Steve Lamacq]]. Lamacq asked Edwards if he and his band [[Wikipedia:Manic Street Preachers|Manic Street Preachers]] were serious about their music. Edwards tried to convince Lamacq by carving "4-real" into his forearm.
:I agree...it's a pretty unmistakable reference, in my opinion. I'm going to [[Template:STUFF/Strong_Bad_is_a_Bad_Guy|put it on the STUFF page]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:More about the incident [http://microsites.nme.com/rock100/site/8.html here]. [[User:Lazmo|Lazmo]] 15:38, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sing us a Song ==

Anyone have an idea where the song comes from? It sounds incredibly familiar, but I can't place it. --[[User:B|B]] 18:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Also, I want to know if the intro music is related to the Trogdor game—specifically those little upward-swooping beepy notes (I know, you'd expect a better description from a musician)? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pipe or Bat ==

In the transcript, it says Strong Bad hits the muffler with a bat (it ''is'' brown). Later, in the Inside references, it is called a pipe (which ''has'' been used before. Which is it? My vote is pipe, given the inside reference. Others? --[[User:B|B]] 18:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:It's so pixellated it's hard to tell, even zoomed in, but:
#although I can't say for sure it's perfectly cylindrical (i.e. not tapered like a bat), I think it would be even harder to say that it's tapered;
#if it is a bat, it has some kind of dealie at the end, like lines painted on it. I think those are supposed to be pipe threads.
#Strong Bad's holding it right in the middle (although that isn't very efficient no matter what it is). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'd say it's a pipe for three reasons: A. a pipe/muffler combo has been used before, 2. a bat would be hard to dent a muffler with, and D. the reasons AbdiViklas already said. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I put bat in the transcript because it was brown and I didn't look at it that closely. A pipe seems reasonable too though. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:31, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==soap==
when sb mentions soap, it's a reference to dove brand soap.-stretchyman

Um...Why do you think it's Dove? I think you're stretching it, stretchyman (ooo...bad joke). Can you find any evidence that it's Dove? [[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 20:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

dove is the only type of soap that strong bad knows about.-stretchyman

Talk:Strong Bad is a Bad Guy

Anonomys — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:49:12 GMT

Anonomys: /* A Revelation for Homestar? */

== The Field? ==
I know it's a little early on to be worrying about this, but I've gone ahead and labeled the place where SB, SM and The Cheat are as [[The Field]], although I'm doubting that it is. New page? Label it "A Field" without linking? Two cents? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Well, it looks like the field to me, just without bushes. The entire art style in this toon is a naturally a little off. I think it's the field, but I wouldn't care if you called it something different. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'm for keeping it as [[The Field]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:'''Second'''-I also think that it should be kept as [[The Field]].[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Easter Eggs? ==

Since we haven't gotten the direct Flash file yet, I can't use the seek bar to find Easter eggs. By the looks of it, I don't think there are any, but our good annonymous IP who crated the page apparently says there is ([{Strong Sad]] (Eater egg)). Any other way? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:56, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I fount the Flash file! Yay! http://www.homestarrunner.com/badguy.swf {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:01, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::w00t. <s>By the looks of it, though, there are no Easter eggs.</s> Ah, we found one. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Two, actually. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:24, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== A Revelation for Homestar? ==

I'm not sure if this is important, but is this the first time that someone has mentioned to Homestar (or Homestar has admitted to himself) that he doesn't have arms? I know Strong Bad has mentioned his armlessness before, but always when alone and not within earshot of Homestar himself. I dunno if this counts as an important bit of data or not, but I just wanted to throw it out. [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 16:21, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I think that this is an important fact too. I'm going to [[STUFF]] it.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:25, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::In [[fingers]], it was implied that Homestar knows about his situation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:58, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Actually, the 'implied' part in fingers is part of Strongbad's imagination no? (as shown by the dream bubbles and such). So it'd be little more then Strongbad again saying to himself that Homestar is harmless. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Actually, my outlook on Homestar's "arms" are that they are obviously invisible. He carries things all the time. In fact, sometimes it is questionable about the invisible arms since in The Show, he can hold the microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle them at the same time. But all these prove that he has invisible arms.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:It almost seems that he can telekinetically move anything within a set range, as characters walking by (or crowding aroud) him never seem to run into his arms.={{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I agree, it'd also explain Old Timey Homestar has not only no arms, but no shoulder sockets for his invisible arms to be linked to. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::It could be that he is blissfully unaware of the fact that he has "no arms", much like he is unaware of the fact that his pants are invisible (or nonexistent.) [[User:24.138.54.79|24.138.54.79]] 01:51, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I too have always thought telekinesis. Invisible arms is a tad elaborate, and telekinesis would explain how he is able to hold a microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle the cards all at the same time. It's not like Homestar has a really powerful mind and thus is able to use telekinesis, it's just his way of making up for having no arms. Though, alternately, I like the idea that because Homestar is so unaware of his lack of arms, he is able to pick things up without having arms, i.e., he "forgets" his lack of arms and acts like he can pick things up, and it works for some reason. ("How did you walk through that wall?" "I was able to because I forgot to use my laws of physics.") --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]
:I have always seen two (2) possable answers to this. one (1) is that he has (at least) four (4) invisable arms. two (2) is that he has limited telikenisis. I also think that this has always been implied.-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Don't be a Hater ==

After listening twice, I think the lyrics actually say "Strong Bad ''paints'' Marzipan", as opposed to "hates". I distinctly hear an N sound in there. This would also match up well with [[origins]], a previous time when Strong Bad spray painted Marzipan. What say the rest of you? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I hear an "h" sound in the beginning. It's hard to tell, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:52, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Both make perfect since, so it's really just a matter of listening. On that note, I do hear an "h" sound, as well. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I hear '''paint'''. We could make a footnote, like we did with [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::::Ugh, not another footnote. Let's get some more opinions here before even thinking about going down that road. I heard "hates," by the way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:59, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:As all the other lyrics match up exactly with the illustrations, "paints" seems more plausible.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I'm hearin' "hates" dude. [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
::Hearing "hates" here too [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]]
:::LOL—I heard "Strong Bad '''is''' Marzipan on my first listen! That had me kinda confused. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I heard it three times, it is very faint, but I am pretty sure I heard '''hates'''. I am 100% sure that they did not say ''paint'', as the "p" sound was nowhere to be heard. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I also hear "hates." {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:16, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

"Hates". --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

Another vote for "hates." -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 14:10, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

2 votes for "Paints", 11 for "Hates" including me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I heard hates (I wrote the transcript) ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:41, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. --[[User:B|B]] 18:14, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Just to clarify, I also vote Hates for Town Council. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:17, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I hear "hates" too. Besides, that makes more sense considering that Strong Bad is spraying black paint over a picture of Marzipan, as in defacing it. "Paints" just doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me.--[[User:Spanky The Dolphin|Spanky The Dolphin]] 23:32, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:I vote "hates"-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Tricked Out Van ==

I figured that the van in the music video could reference the tricked out van Strong Bad mentioned in the [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. What do you think? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 12:17, 17 Oct 2005
:That certainly sounds plausible to me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I'd [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] it, though. I'm for it, but some may not approve.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::In fact, it's currently already there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I just noticed that. Heh. I'm a genius.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Song visuals==

Why is it, that with things such as [[Experimental Film]] and [[rock opera]], we split the music from the visuals, but here we put 'em all in the transcript? Is there some sort of standard at all? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:It's because those two have several '''minutes''' of nothing but visuals and lyrics. This one is pretty short so the visuals can be insite the transcript. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:29, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, we generally split them for large ones. There's no set standard, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::I'm not really sure I like it that way. I think we should do it one way or the other for consistency. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Well, the visuals usually get in the way of simply reading the song, but they are important for a knowledge base that collects as much info as possible. I think it's fine the way it is, but if we had to choose one way or the other, I'd go with a seperate page for visuals. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:03, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

==Dooj?==

Anyone know what the rocket laucher "Dooj" is about?
:It could just be a sound effect.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I think "dooj" may be a variant (or the actual spelling of) the word "doosh" Strong Bad uses occasionally. (See [[Random Toon]] and [[TROGDOR!]]) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Don't forget [[The System Is Down (song)]]! — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== This Toon ==
Is this toon even on the site? Where? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
:It's a Short. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Also, check the main page. Look under "back to our roots". If that doesn't work, do a hard refresh and try again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:Back to Our Roots? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
::You're not in conversation. If you missed something, read the message again. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:57, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::On the rotating "What's new!" button.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:It's under "Shorts" on the Toons page. {{User:Camalex/sig}} 20:40, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Of Snake Ladies, Nagas, and Warcraft ==

Snake/Human hybrids are, of course, not constrained to Warcraft and date back to Indian and Asian mythology. In fact, the name Naga isn't even constrained to Warcraft and denotes a wide variety of snake like mythical creatures in southern Asia. I propose the dropping of that particular reference and letting the Cheat's snake lady just be a product of his imagination rather than yet another spurious reference.
:I agree. I've never even heard of Warcraft, but I ''have'' heard of nagas before. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I agree, I have heard of Warcraft, but I also remember them in Final Fantasy games before Warcraft...Hmmm, FFII and III were SNES games as was Mario Paint...reference? Probably not.--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 22:38, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:My guess is that they got the reference from all those video games you guys mentioned. It might be more of a referene to the genre in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it speaks to the remarkably limited scope of knowledge possessed by the people who visit this site :) -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] 18:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==Bad Guy!==
Considering this is a toon described "Going back to our roots", Isn't the entire basis of the toon is a reference to how StrongBad was more of a villian earlier on in the series? Maybe? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Yeah—reasserting his identity now that he's become the vulnerable, personable, lovable scamp who charmed his way into the hearts of a nation. No, seriously, you're right. (Not that it should go in the article, but good observation.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I thought about that, but he really doesn't act like a villain. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I totally agree with that, 20X6 GEM. I was about to leave a similar note here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Possible, but I'm thinking it is props to the [[Super NES|first Homestar Runner cartoon ever made]], which was done in Mario Paint, as has already been referencecd. Even though Strong Bad's vilinitude is not what it used to be, he's still the antagonist, and this short doesn't have the feel of, say, [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)]]. --[[User:B|B]] 18:21, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

P.S.
Isn't StrongBad bouncing on his Head a reference to the SBEmail [[funny]]? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Reference, no. Interesting, though! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it was very interesting. Does anyone else think so? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 01:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I seriously think The bouncing one his head was a reference to when he did it in "Funny"! "Liko Liko Liko!!!" [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]

== Pic's ==

Could someone please give me pics of SB talking as in when he says "A glowy box? Are you sure that's what you'd get for your tattoo?" and when SM is talking, please? [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Count_X | Apocalpyx Zeta]

:Erm. Read the transcript? {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Richey Edwards reference? ==

"The For Real Deal"-tattoo may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Richey James Edwards|Richey Edwards]], and the infamous interview he did with [[Wikipedia:NME|NME]] journalist [[Wikipedia:Steve Lamacq|Steve Lamacq]]. Lamacq asked Edwards if he and his band [[Wikipedia:Manic Street Preachers|Manic Street Preachers]] were serious about their music. Edwards tried to convince Lamacq by carving "4-real" into his forearm.
:I agree...it's a pretty unmistakable reference, in my opinion. I'm going to [[Template:STUFF/Strong_Bad_is_a_Bad_Guy|put it on the STUFF page]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:More about the incident [http://microsites.nme.com/rock100/site/8.html here]. [[User:Lazmo|Lazmo]] 15:38, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sing us a Song ==

Anyone have an idea where the song comes from? It sounds incredibly familiar, but I can't place it. --[[User:B|B]] 18:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Also, I want to know if the intro music is related to the Trogdor game—specifically those little upward-swooping beepy notes (I know, you'd expect a better description from a musician)? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pipe or Bat ==

In the transcript, it says Strong Bad hits the muffler with a bat (it ''is'' brown). Later, in the Inside references, it is called a pipe (which ''has'' been used before. Which is it? My vote is pipe, given the inside reference. Others? --[[User:B|B]] 18:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:It's so pixellated it's hard to tell, even zoomed in, but:
#although I can't say for sure it's perfectly cylindrical (i.e. not tapered like a bat), I think it would be even harder to say that it's tapered;
#if it is a bat, it has some kind of dealie at the end, like lines painted on it. I think those are supposed to be pipe threads.
#Strong Bad's holding it right in the middle (although that isn't very efficient no matter what it is). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'd say it's a pipe for three reasons: A. a pipe/muffler combo has been used before, 2. a bat would be hard to dent a muffler with, and D. the reasons AbdiViklas already said. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I put bat in the transcript because it was brown and I didn't look at it that closely. A pipe seems reasonable too though. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:31, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==soap==
when sb mentions soap, it's a reference to dove brand soap.-stretchyman

Um...Why do you think it's Dove? I think you're stretching it, stretchyman (ooo...bad joke). Can you find any evidence that it's Dove? [[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 20:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

dove is the only type of soap that strong bad knows about.-stretchyman

Talk:Strong Bad is a Bad Guy

Anonomys — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:48:25 GMT

Anonomys: /* A Revelation for Homestar? */

== The Field? ==
I know it's a little early on to be worrying about this, but I've gone ahead and labeled the place where SB, SM and The Cheat are as [[The Field]], although I'm doubting that it is. New page? Label it "A Field" without linking? Two cents? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Well, it looks like the field to me, just without bushes. The entire art style in this toon is a naturally a little off. I think it's the field, but I wouldn't care if you called it something different. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'm for keeping it as [[The Field]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:'''Second'''-I also think that it should be kept as [[The Field]].[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Easter Eggs? ==

Since we haven't gotten the direct Flash file yet, I can't use the seek bar to find Easter eggs. By the looks of it, I don't think there are any, but our good annonymous IP who crated the page apparently says there is ([{Strong Sad]] (Eater egg)). Any other way? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:56, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I fount the Flash file! Yay! http://www.homestarrunner.com/badguy.swf {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:01, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::w00t. <s>By the looks of it, though, there are no Easter eggs.</s> Ah, we found one. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Two, actually. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:24, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== A Revelation for Homestar? ==

I'm not sure if this is important, but is this the first time that someone has mentioned to Homestar (or Homestar has admitted to himself) that he doesn't have arms? I know Strong Bad has mentioned his armlessness before, but always when alone and not within earshot of Homestar himself. I dunno if this counts as an important bit of data or not, but I just wanted to throw it out. [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 16:21, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I think that this is an important fact too. I'm going to [[STUFF]] it.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:25, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::In [[fingers]], it was implied that Homestar knows about his situation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:58, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Actually, the 'implied' part in fingers is part of Strongbad's imagination no? (as shown by the dream bubbles and such). So it'd be little more then Strongbad again saying to himself that Homestar is harmless. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Actually, my outlook on Homestar's "arms" are that they are obviously invisible. He carries things all the time. In fact, sometimes it is questionable about the invisible arms since in The Show, he can hold the microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle them at the same time. But all these prove that he has invisible arms.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:It almost seems that he can telekinetically move anything within a set range, as characters walking by (or crowding aroud) him never seem to run into his arms.={{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I agree, it'd also explain Old Timey Homestar has not only no arms, but no shoulder sockets for his invisible arms to be linked to. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::It could be that he is blissfully unaware of the fact that he has "no arms", much like he is unaware of the fact that his pants are invisible (or nonexistent.) [[User:24.138.54.79|24.138.54.79]] 01:51, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I too have always thought telekinesis. Invisible arms is a tad elaborate, and telekinesis would explain how he is able to hold a microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle the cards all at the same time. It's not like Homestar has a really powerful mind and thus is able to use telekinesis, it's just his way of making up for having no arms. Though, alternately, I like the idea that because Homestar is so unaware of his lack of arms, he is able to pick things up without having arms, i.e., he "forgets" his lack of arms and acts like he can pick things up, and it works for some reason. ("How did you walk through that wall?" "I was able to because I forgot to use my laws of physics.") --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]
:I have always seen two (2) possable answers to this. one (1) is that he has (at least) four (4) invisable arms. two (2) is that he has limited telikenisis.

== Don't be a Hater ==

After listening twice, I think the lyrics actually say "Strong Bad ''paints'' Marzipan", as opposed to "hates". I distinctly hear an N sound in there. This would also match up well with [[origins]], a previous time when Strong Bad spray painted Marzipan. What say the rest of you? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I hear an "h" sound in the beginning. It's hard to tell, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:52, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Both make perfect since, so it's really just a matter of listening. On that note, I do hear an "h" sound, as well. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I hear '''paint'''. We could make a footnote, like we did with [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::::Ugh, not another footnote. Let's get some more opinions here before even thinking about going down that road. I heard "hates," by the way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:59, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:As all the other lyrics match up exactly with the illustrations, "paints" seems more plausible.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I'm hearin' "hates" dude. [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
::Hearing "hates" here too [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]]
:::LOL—I heard "Strong Bad '''is''' Marzipan on my first listen! That had me kinda confused. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I heard it three times, it is very faint, but I am pretty sure I heard '''hates'''. I am 100% sure that they did not say ''paint'', as the "p" sound was nowhere to be heard. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I also hear "hates." {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:16, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

"Hates". --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

Another vote for "hates." -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 14:10, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

2 votes for "Paints", 11 for "Hates" including me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I heard hates (I wrote the transcript) ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:41, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. --[[User:B|B]] 18:14, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Just to clarify, I also vote Hates for Town Council. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:17, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I hear "hates" too. Besides, that makes more sense considering that Strong Bad is spraying black paint over a picture of Marzipan, as in defacing it. "Paints" just doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me.--[[User:Spanky The Dolphin|Spanky The Dolphin]] 23:32, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:I vote "hates"-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Tricked Out Van ==

I figured that the van in the music video could reference the tricked out van Strong Bad mentioned in the [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. What do you think? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 12:17, 17 Oct 2005
:That certainly sounds plausible to me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I'd [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] it, though. I'm for it, but some may not approve.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::In fact, it's currently already there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I just noticed that. Heh. I'm a genius.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Song visuals==

Why is it, that with things such as [[Experimental Film]] and [[rock opera]], we split the music from the visuals, but here we put 'em all in the transcript? Is there some sort of standard at all? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:It's because those two have several '''minutes''' of nothing but visuals and lyrics. This one is pretty short so the visuals can be insite the transcript. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:29, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, we generally split them for large ones. There's no set standard, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::I'm not really sure I like it that way. I think we should do it one way or the other for consistency. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Well, the visuals usually get in the way of simply reading the song, but they are important for a knowledge base that collects as much info as possible. I think it's fine the way it is, but if we had to choose one way or the other, I'd go with a seperate page for visuals. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:03, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

==Dooj?==

Anyone know what the rocket laucher "Dooj" is about?
:It could just be a sound effect.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I think "dooj" may be a variant (or the actual spelling of) the word "doosh" Strong Bad uses occasionally. (See [[Random Toon]] and [[TROGDOR!]]) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Don't forget [[The System Is Down (song)]]! — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== This Toon ==
Is this toon even on the site? Where? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
:It's a Short. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Also, check the main page. Look under "back to our roots". If that doesn't work, do a hard refresh and try again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:Back to Our Roots? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
::You're not in conversation. If you missed something, read the message again. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:57, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::On the rotating "What's new!" button.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:It's under "Shorts" on the Toons page. {{User:Camalex/sig}} 20:40, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Of Snake Ladies, Nagas, and Warcraft ==

Snake/Human hybrids are, of course, not constrained to Warcraft and date back to Indian and Asian mythology. In fact, the name Naga isn't even constrained to Warcraft and denotes a wide variety of snake like mythical creatures in southern Asia. I propose the dropping of that particular reference and letting the Cheat's snake lady just be a product of his imagination rather than yet another spurious reference.
:I agree. I've never even heard of Warcraft, but I ''have'' heard of nagas before. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I agree, I have heard of Warcraft, but I also remember them in Final Fantasy games before Warcraft...Hmmm, FFII and III were SNES games as was Mario Paint...reference? Probably not.--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 22:38, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:My guess is that they got the reference from all those video games you guys mentioned. It might be more of a referene to the genre in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it speaks to the remarkably limited scope of knowledge possessed by the people who visit this site :) -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] 18:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==Bad Guy!==
Considering this is a toon described "Going back to our roots", Isn't the entire basis of the toon is a reference to how StrongBad was more of a villian earlier on in the series? Maybe? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Yeah—reasserting his identity now that he's become the vulnerable, personable, lovable scamp who charmed his way into the hearts of a nation. No, seriously, you're right. (Not that it should go in the article, but good observation.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I thought about that, but he really doesn't act like a villain. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I totally agree with that, 20X6 GEM. I was about to leave a similar note here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Possible, but I'm thinking it is props to the [[Super NES|first Homestar Runner cartoon ever made]], which was done in Mario Paint, as has already been referencecd. Even though Strong Bad's vilinitude is not what it used to be, he's still the antagonist, and this short doesn't have the feel of, say, [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)]]. --[[User:B|B]] 18:21, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

P.S.
Isn't StrongBad bouncing on his Head a reference to the SBEmail [[funny]]? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Reference, no. Interesting, though! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it was very interesting. Does anyone else think so? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 01:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I seriously think The bouncing one his head was a reference to when he did it in "Funny"! "Liko Liko Liko!!!" [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]

== Pic's ==

Could someone please give me pics of SB talking as in when he says "A glowy box? Are you sure that's what you'd get for your tattoo?" and when SM is talking, please? [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Count_X | Apocalpyx Zeta]

:Erm. Read the transcript? {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Richey Edwards reference? ==

"The For Real Deal"-tattoo may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Richey James Edwards|Richey Edwards]], and the infamous interview he did with [[Wikipedia:NME|NME]] journalist [[Wikipedia:Steve Lamacq|Steve Lamacq]]. Lamacq asked Edwards if he and his band [[Wikipedia:Manic Street Preachers|Manic Street Preachers]] were serious about their music. Edwards tried to convince Lamacq by carving "4-real" into his forearm.
:I agree...it's a pretty unmistakable reference, in my opinion. I'm going to [[Template:STUFF/Strong_Bad_is_a_Bad_Guy|put it on the STUFF page]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:More about the incident [http://microsites.nme.com/rock100/site/8.html here]. [[User:Lazmo|Lazmo]] 15:38, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sing us a Song ==

Anyone have an idea where the song comes from? It sounds incredibly familiar, but I can't place it. --[[User:B|B]] 18:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Also, I want to know if the intro music is related to the Trogdor game—specifically those little upward-swooping beepy notes (I know, you'd expect a better description from a musician)? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pipe or Bat ==

In the transcript, it says Strong Bad hits the muffler with a bat (it ''is'' brown). Later, in the Inside references, it is called a pipe (which ''has'' been used before. Which is it? My vote is pipe, given the inside reference. Others? --[[User:B|B]] 18:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:It's so pixellated it's hard to tell, even zoomed in, but:
#although I can't say for sure it's perfectly cylindrical (i.e. not tapered like a bat), I think it would be even harder to say that it's tapered;
#if it is a bat, it has some kind of dealie at the end, like lines painted on it. I think those are supposed to be pipe threads.
#Strong Bad's holding it right in the middle (although that isn't very efficient no matter what it is). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'd say it's a pipe for three reasons: A. a pipe/muffler combo has been used before, 2. a bat would be hard to dent a muffler with, and D. the reasons AbdiViklas already said. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I put bat in the transcript because it was brown and I didn't look at it that closely. A pipe seems reasonable too though. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:31, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==soap==
when sb mentions soap, it's a reference to dove brand soap.-stretchyman

Um...Why do you think it's Dove? I think you're stretching it, stretchyman (ooo...bad joke). Can you find any evidence that it's Dove? [[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 20:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

dove is the only type of soap that strong bad knows about.-stretchyman

Talk:Strong Bad is a Bad Guy

Anonomys — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:46:19 GMT

Anonomys: /* Don't be a Hater */

== The Field? ==
I know it's a little early on to be worrying about this, but I've gone ahead and labeled the place where SB, SM and The Cheat are as [[The Field]], although I'm doubting that it is. New page? Label it "A Field" without linking? Two cents? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Well, it looks like the field to me, just without bushes. The entire art style in this toon is a naturally a little off. I think it's the field, but I wouldn't care if you called it something different. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'm for keeping it as [[The Field]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:'''Second'''-I also think that it should be kept as [[The Field]].[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Easter Eggs? ==

Since we haven't gotten the direct Flash file yet, I can't use the seek bar to find Easter eggs. By the looks of it, I don't think there are any, but our good annonymous IP who crated the page apparently says there is ([{Strong Sad]] (Eater egg)). Any other way? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:56, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I fount the Flash file! Yay! http://www.homestarrunner.com/badguy.swf {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:01, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::w00t. <s>By the looks of it, though, there are no Easter eggs.</s> Ah, we found one. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Two, actually. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:24, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== A Revelation for Homestar? ==

I'm not sure if this is important, but is this the first time that someone has mentioned to Homestar (or Homestar has admitted to himself) that he doesn't have arms? I know Strong Bad has mentioned his armlessness before, but always when alone and not within earshot of Homestar himself. I dunno if this counts as an important bit of data or not, but I just wanted to throw it out. [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 16:21, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I think that this is an important fact too. I'm going to [[STUFF]] it.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:25, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::In [[fingers]], it was implied that Homestar knows about his situation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:58, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Actually, the 'implied' part in fingers is part of Strongbad's imagination no? (as shown by the dream bubbles and such). So it'd be little more then Strongbad again saying to himself that Homestar is harmless. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Actually, my outlook on Homestar's "arms" are that they are obviously invisible. He carries things all the time. In fact, sometimes it is questionable about the invisible arms since in The Show, he can hold the microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle them at the same time. But all these prove that he has invisible arms.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:It almost seems that he can telekinetically move anything within a set range, as characters walking by (or crowding aroud) him never seem to run into his arms.={{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I agree, it'd also explain Old Timey Homestar has not only no arms, but no shoulder sockets for his invisible arms to be linked to. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::It could be that he is blissfully unaware of the fact that he has "no arms", much like he is unaware of the fact that his pants are invisible (or nonexistent.) [[User:24.138.54.79|24.138.54.79]] 01:51, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I too have always thought telekinesis. Invisible arms is a tad elaborate, and telekinesis would explain how he is able to hold a microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle the cards all at the same time. It's not like Homestar has a really powerful mind and thus is able to use telekinesis, it's just his way of making up for having no arms. Though, alternately, I like the idea that because Homestar is so unaware of his lack of arms, he is able to pick things up without having arms, i.e., he "forgets" his lack of arms and acts like he can pick things up, and it works for some reason. ("How did you walk through that wall?" "I was able to because I forgot to use my laws of physics.") --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

== Don't be a Hater ==

After listening twice, I think the lyrics actually say "Strong Bad ''paints'' Marzipan", as opposed to "hates". I distinctly hear an N sound in there. This would also match up well with [[origins]], a previous time when Strong Bad spray painted Marzipan. What say the rest of you? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I hear an "h" sound in the beginning. It's hard to tell, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:52, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Both make perfect since, so it's really just a matter of listening. On that note, I do hear an "h" sound, as well. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I hear '''paint'''. We could make a footnote, like we did with [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::::Ugh, not another footnote. Let's get some more opinions here before even thinking about going down that road. I heard "hates," by the way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:59, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:As all the other lyrics match up exactly with the illustrations, "paints" seems more plausible.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I'm hearin' "hates" dude. [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
::Hearing "hates" here too [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]]
:::LOL—I heard "Strong Bad '''is''' Marzipan on my first listen! That had me kinda confused. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I heard it three times, it is very faint, but I am pretty sure I heard '''hates'''. I am 100% sure that they did not say ''paint'', as the "p" sound was nowhere to be heard. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I also hear "hates." {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:16, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

"Hates". --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

Another vote for "hates." -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 14:10, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

2 votes for "Paints", 11 for "Hates" including me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I heard hates (I wrote the transcript) ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:41, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. --[[User:B|B]] 18:14, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Just to clarify, I also vote Hates for Town Council. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:17, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I hear "hates" too. Besides, that makes more sense considering that Strong Bad is spraying black paint over a picture of Marzipan, as in defacing it. "Paints" just doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me.--[[User:Spanky The Dolphin|Spanky The Dolphin]] 23:32, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:I vote "hates"-[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Tricked Out Van ==

I figured that the van in the music video could reference the tricked out van Strong Bad mentioned in the [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. What do you think? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 12:17, 17 Oct 2005
:That certainly sounds plausible to me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I'd [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] it, though. I'm for it, but some may not approve.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::In fact, it's currently already there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I just noticed that. Heh. I'm a genius.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Song visuals==

Why is it, that with things such as [[Experimental Film]] and [[rock opera]], we split the music from the visuals, but here we put 'em all in the transcript? Is there some sort of standard at all? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:It's because those two have several '''minutes''' of nothing but visuals and lyrics. This one is pretty short so the visuals can be insite the transcript. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:29, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, we generally split them for large ones. There's no set standard, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::I'm not really sure I like it that way. I think we should do it one way or the other for consistency. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Well, the visuals usually get in the way of simply reading the song, but they are important for a knowledge base that collects as much info as possible. I think it's fine the way it is, but if we had to choose one way or the other, I'd go with a seperate page for visuals. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:03, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

==Dooj?==

Anyone know what the rocket laucher "Dooj" is about?
:It could just be a sound effect.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I think "dooj" may be a variant (or the actual spelling of) the word "doosh" Strong Bad uses occasionally. (See [[Random Toon]] and [[TROGDOR!]]) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Don't forget [[The System Is Down (song)]]! — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== This Toon ==
Is this toon even on the site? Where? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
:It's a Short. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Also, check the main page. Look under "back to our roots". If that doesn't work, do a hard refresh and try again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:Back to Our Roots? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
::You're not in conversation. If you missed something, read the message again. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:57, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::On the rotating "What's new!" button.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:It's under "Shorts" on the Toons page. {{User:Camalex/sig}} 20:40, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Of Snake Ladies, Nagas, and Warcraft ==

Snake/Human hybrids are, of course, not constrained to Warcraft and date back to Indian and Asian mythology. In fact, the name Naga isn't even constrained to Warcraft and denotes a wide variety of snake like mythical creatures in southern Asia. I propose the dropping of that particular reference and letting the Cheat's snake lady just be a product of his imagination rather than yet another spurious reference.
:I agree. I've never even heard of Warcraft, but I ''have'' heard of nagas before. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I agree, I have heard of Warcraft, but I also remember them in Final Fantasy games before Warcraft...Hmmm, FFII and III were SNES games as was Mario Paint...reference? Probably not.--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 22:38, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:My guess is that they got the reference from all those video games you guys mentioned. It might be more of a referene to the genre in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it speaks to the remarkably limited scope of knowledge possessed by the people who visit this site :) -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] 18:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==Bad Guy!==
Considering this is a toon described "Going back to our roots", Isn't the entire basis of the toon is a reference to how StrongBad was more of a villian earlier on in the series? Maybe? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Yeah—reasserting his identity now that he's become the vulnerable, personable, lovable scamp who charmed his way into the hearts of a nation. No, seriously, you're right. (Not that it should go in the article, but good observation.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I thought about that, but he really doesn't act like a villain. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I totally agree with that, 20X6 GEM. I was about to leave a similar note here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Possible, but I'm thinking it is props to the [[Super NES|first Homestar Runner cartoon ever made]], which was done in Mario Paint, as has already been referencecd. Even though Strong Bad's vilinitude is not what it used to be, he's still the antagonist, and this short doesn't have the feel of, say, [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)]]. --[[User:B|B]] 18:21, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

P.S.
Isn't StrongBad bouncing on his Head a reference to the SBEmail [[funny]]? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Reference, no. Interesting, though! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it was very interesting. Does anyone else think so? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 01:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I seriously think The bouncing one his head was a reference to when he did it in "Funny"! "Liko Liko Liko!!!" [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]

== Pic's ==

Could someone please give me pics of SB talking as in when he says "A glowy box? Are you sure that's what you'd get for your tattoo?" and when SM is talking, please? [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Count_X | Apocalpyx Zeta]

:Erm. Read the transcript? {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Richey Edwards reference? ==

"The For Real Deal"-tattoo may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Richey James Edwards|Richey Edwards]], and the infamous interview he did with [[Wikipedia:NME|NME]] journalist [[Wikipedia:Steve Lamacq|Steve Lamacq]]. Lamacq asked Edwards if he and his band [[Wikipedia:Manic Street Preachers|Manic Street Preachers]] were serious about their music. Edwards tried to convince Lamacq by carving "4-real" into his forearm.
:I agree...it's a pretty unmistakable reference, in my opinion. I'm going to [[Template:STUFF/Strong_Bad_is_a_Bad_Guy|put it on the STUFF page]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:More about the incident [http://microsites.nme.com/rock100/site/8.html here]. [[User:Lazmo|Lazmo]] 15:38, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sing us a Song ==

Anyone have an idea where the song comes from? It sounds incredibly familiar, but I can't place it. --[[User:B|B]] 18:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Also, I want to know if the intro music is related to the Trogdor game—specifically those little upward-swooping beepy notes (I know, you'd expect a better description from a musician)? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pipe or Bat ==

In the transcript, it says Strong Bad hits the muffler with a bat (it ''is'' brown). Later, in the Inside references, it is called a pipe (which ''has'' been used before. Which is it? My vote is pipe, given the inside reference. Others? --[[User:B|B]] 18:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:It's so pixellated it's hard to tell, even zoomed in, but:
#although I can't say for sure it's perfectly cylindrical (i.e. not tapered like a bat), I think it would be even harder to say that it's tapered;
#if it is a bat, it has some kind of dealie at the end, like lines painted on it. I think those are supposed to be pipe threads.
#Strong Bad's holding it right in the middle (although that isn't very efficient no matter what it is). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'd say it's a pipe for three reasons: A. a pipe/muffler combo has been used before, 2. a bat would be hard to dent a muffler with, and D. the reasons AbdiViklas already said. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I put bat in the transcript because it was brown and I didn't look at it that closely. A pipe seems reasonable too though. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:31, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==soap==
when sb mentions soap, it's a reference to dove brand soap.-stretchyman

Um...Why do you think it's Dove? I think you're stretching it, stretchyman (ooo...bad joke). Can you find any evidence that it's Dove? [[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 20:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

dove is the only type of soap that strong bad knows about.-stretchyman

Talk:Strong Bad is a Bad Guy

Anonomys — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:43:24 GMT

Anonomys: /* The Field? */

== The Field? ==
I know it's a little early on to be worrying about this, but I've gone ahead and labeled the place where SB, SM and The Cheat are as [[The Field]], although I'm doubting that it is. New page? Label it "A Field" without linking? Two cents? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Well, it looks like the field to me, just without bushes. The entire art style in this toon is a naturally a little off. I think it's the field, but I wouldn't care if you called it something different. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'm for keeping it as [[The Field]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:'''Second'''-I also think that it should be kept as [[The Field]].[[User:Anonomys|Anonomys]] 23:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Easter Eggs? ==

Since we haven't gotten the direct Flash file yet, I can't use the seek bar to find Easter eggs. By the looks of it, I don't think there are any, but our good annonymous IP who crated the page apparently says there is ([{Strong Sad]] (Eater egg)). Any other way? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:56, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I fount the Flash file! Yay! http://www.homestarrunner.com/badguy.swf {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:01, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::w00t. <s>By the looks of it, though, there are no Easter eggs.</s> Ah, we found one. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Two, actually. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:24, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== A Revelation for Homestar? ==

I'm not sure if this is important, but is this the first time that someone has mentioned to Homestar (or Homestar has admitted to himself) that he doesn't have arms? I know Strong Bad has mentioned his armlessness before, but always when alone and not within earshot of Homestar himself. I dunno if this counts as an important bit of data or not, but I just wanted to throw it out. [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 16:21, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I think that this is an important fact too. I'm going to [[STUFF]] it.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:25, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::In [[fingers]], it was implied that Homestar knows about his situation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:58, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Actually, the 'implied' part in fingers is part of Strongbad's imagination no? (as shown by the dream bubbles and such). So it'd be little more then Strongbad again saying to himself that Homestar is harmless. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Actually, my outlook on Homestar's "arms" are that they are obviously invisible. He carries things all the time. In fact, sometimes it is questionable about the invisible arms since in The Show, he can hold the microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle them at the same time. But all these prove that he has invisible arms.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 20:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:It almost seems that he can telekinetically move anything within a set range, as characters walking by (or crowding aroud) him never seem to run into his arms.={{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I agree, it'd also explain Old Timey Homestar has not only no arms, but no shoulder sockets for his invisible arms to be linked to. [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]] 22:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::It could be that he is blissfully unaware of the fact that he has "no arms", much like he is unaware of the fact that his pants are invisible (or nonexistent.) [[User:24.138.54.79|24.138.54.79]] 01:51, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I too have always thought telekinesis. Invisible arms is a tad elaborate, and telekinesis would explain how he is able to hold a microphone, hold the cards, and shuffle the cards all at the same time. It's not like Homestar has a really powerful mind and thus is able to use telekinesis, it's just his way of making up for having no arms. Though, alternately, I like the idea that because Homestar is so unaware of his lack of arms, he is able to pick things up without having arms, i.e., he "forgets" his lack of arms and acts like he can pick things up, and it works for some reason. ("How did you walk through that wall?" "I was able to because I forgot to use my laws of physics.") --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

== Don't be a Hater ==

After listening twice, I think the lyrics actually say "Strong Bad ''paints'' Marzipan", as opposed to "hates". I distinctly hear an N sound in there. This would also match up well with [[origins]], a previous time when Strong Bad spray painted Marzipan. What say the rest of you? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I hear an "h" sound in the beginning. It's hard to tell, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:52, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Both make perfect since, so it's really just a matter of listening. On that note, I do hear an "h" sound, as well. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I hear '''paint'''. We could make a footnote, like we did with [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::::Ugh, not another footnote. Let's get some more opinions here before even thinking about going down that road. I heard "hates," by the way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:59, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:As all the other lyrics match up exactly with the illustrations, "paints" seems more plausible.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I'm hearin' "hates" dude. [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
::Hearing "hates" here too [[User:Ghilz|Ghilz]]
:::LOL—I heard "Strong Bad '''is''' Marzipan on my first listen! That had me kinda confused. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I heard it three times, it is very faint, but I am pretty sure I heard '''hates'''. I am 100% sure that they did not say ''paint'', as the "p" sound was nowhere to be heard. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I also hear "hates." {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:16, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

"Hates". --[[User:Der Pepper|Der Pepper]]

Another vote for "hates." -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 14:10, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

2 votes for "Paints", 11 for "Hates" including me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 14:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I heard hates (I wrote the transcript) ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:41, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Hates'''. --[[User:B|B]] 18:14, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Just to clarify, I also vote Hates for Town Council. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:17, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I hear "hates" too. Besides, that makes more sense considering that Strong Bad is spraying black paint over a picture of Marzipan, as in defacing it. "Paints" just doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me.--[[User:Spanky The Dolphin|Spanky The Dolphin]] 23:32, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Tricked Out Van ==

I figured that the van in the music video could reference the tricked out van Strong Bad mentioned in the [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. What do you think? -- [[User:TaranchulaVamp15|TaranchulaVamp15]] 12:17, 17 Oct 2005
:That certainly sounds plausible to me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I'd [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] it, though. I'm for it, but some may not approve.--{{User:Kookykman/sig}} 20:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::In fact, it's currently already there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I just noticed that. Heh. I'm a genius.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Song visuals==

Why is it, that with things such as [[Experimental Film]] and [[rock opera]], we split the music from the visuals, but here we put 'em all in the transcript? Is there some sort of standard at all? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:It's because those two have several '''minutes''' of nothing but visuals and lyrics. This one is pretty short so the visuals can be insite the transcript. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:29, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, we generally split them for large ones. There's no set standard, though. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:::I'm not really sure I like it that way. I think we should do it one way or the other for consistency. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Well, the visuals usually get in the way of simply reading the song, but they are important for a knowledge base that collects as much info as possible. I think it's fine the way it is, but if we had to choose one way or the other, I'd go with a seperate page for visuals. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:03, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

==Dooj?==

Anyone know what the rocket laucher "Dooj" is about?
:It could just be a sound effect.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I think "dooj" may be a variant (or the actual spelling of) the word "doosh" Strong Bad uses occasionally. (See [[Random Toon]] and [[TROGDOR!]]) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Don't forget [[The System Is Down (song)]]! — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== This Toon ==
Is this toon even on the site? Where? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
:It's a Short. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Also, check the main page. Look under "back to our roots". If that doesn't work, do a hard refresh and try again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:Back to Our Roots? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
::You're not in conversation. If you missed something, read the message again. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:57, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::On the rotating "What's new!" button.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:It's under "Shorts" on the Toons page. {{User:Camalex/sig}} 20:40, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Of Snake Ladies, Nagas, and Warcraft ==

Snake/Human hybrids are, of course, not constrained to Warcraft and date back to Indian and Asian mythology. In fact, the name Naga isn't even constrained to Warcraft and denotes a wide variety of snake like mythical creatures in southern Asia. I propose the dropping of that particular reference and letting the Cheat's snake lady just be a product of his imagination rather than yet another spurious reference.
:I agree. I've never even heard of Warcraft, but I ''have'' heard of nagas before. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I agree, I have heard of Warcraft, but I also remember them in Final Fantasy games before Warcraft...Hmmm, FFII and III were SNES games as was Mario Paint...reference? Probably not.--[[User:Slackerboy|Slackerboy]] 22:38, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:My guess is that they got the reference from all those video games you guys mentioned. It might be more of a referene to the genre in general. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it speaks to the remarkably limited scope of knowledge possessed by the people who visit this site :) -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] 18:25, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==Bad Guy!==
Considering this is a toon described "Going back to our roots", Isn't the entire basis of the toon is a reference to how StrongBad was more of a villian earlier on in the series? Maybe? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Yeah—reasserting his identity now that he's become the vulnerable, personable, lovable scamp who charmed his way into the hearts of a nation. No, seriously, you're right. (Not that it should go in the article, but good observation.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:I thought about that, but he really doesn't act like a villain. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:I totally agree with that, 20X6 GEM. I was about to leave a similar note here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Possible, but I'm thinking it is props to the [[Super NES|first Homestar Runner cartoon ever made]], which was done in Mario Paint, as has already been referencecd. Even though Strong Bad's vilinitude is not what it used to be, he's still the antagonist, and this short doesn't have the feel of, say, [[Marshmallow's Last Stand|Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)]]. --[[User:B|B]] 18:21, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

P.S.
Isn't StrongBad bouncing on his Head a reference to the SBEmail [[funny]]? [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]
:Reference, no. Interesting, though! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it was very interesting. Does anyone else think so? --{{User:The 386/sig}} 01:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I seriously think The bouncing one his head was a reference to when he did it in "Funny"! "Liko Liko Liko!!!" [[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]

== Pic's ==

Could someone please give me pics of SB talking as in when he says "A glowy box? Are you sure that's what you'd get for your tattoo?" and when SM is talking, please? [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:Count_X | Apocalpyx Zeta]

:Erm. Read the transcript? {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 10:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Richey Edwards reference? ==

"The For Real Deal"-tattoo may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Richey James Edwards|Richey Edwards]], and the infamous interview he did with [[Wikipedia:NME|NME]] journalist [[Wikipedia:Steve Lamacq|Steve Lamacq]]. Lamacq asked Edwards if he and his band [[Wikipedia:Manic Street Preachers|Manic Street Preachers]] were serious about their music. Edwards tried to convince Lamacq by carving "4-real" into his forearm.
:I agree...it's a pretty unmistakable reference, in my opinion. I'm going to [[Template:STUFF/Strong_Bad_is_a_Bad_Guy|put it on the STUFF page]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:More about the incident [http://microsites.nme.com/rock100/site/8.html here]. [[User:Lazmo|Lazmo]] 15:38, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sing us a Song ==

Anyone have an idea where the song comes from? It sounds incredibly familiar, but I can't place it. --[[User:B|B]] 18:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Also, I want to know if the intro music is related to the Trogdor game—specifically those little upward-swooping beepy notes (I know, you'd expect a better description from a musician)? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pipe or Bat ==

In the transcript, it says Strong Bad hits the muffler with a bat (it ''is'' brown). Later, in the Inside references, it is called a pipe (which ''has'' been used before. Which is it? My vote is pipe, given the inside reference. Others? --[[User:B|B]] 18:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:It's so pixellated it's hard to tell, even zoomed in, but:
#although I can't say for sure it's perfectly cylindrical (i.e. not tapered like a bat), I think it would be even harder to say that it's tapered;
#if it is a bat, it has some kind of dealie at the end, like lines painted on it. I think those are supposed to be pipe threads.
#Strong Bad's holding it right in the middle (although that isn't very efficient no matter what it is). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'd say it's a pipe for three reasons: A. a pipe/muffler combo has been used before, 2. a bat would be hard to dent a muffler with, and D. the reasons AbdiViklas already said. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I put bat in the transcript because it was brown and I didn't look at it that closely. A pipe seems reasonable too though. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:31, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==soap==
when sb mentions soap, it's a reference to dove brand soap.-stretchyman

Um...Why do you think it's Dove? I think you're stretching it, stretchyman (ooo...bad joke). Can you find any evidence that it's Dove? [[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 20:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

dove is the only type of soap that strong bad knows about.-stretchyman

User:Anonomys

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If you seriously thought you were going to learn something about me, take a good,hard,look at my name. Saying it out loud might also help.

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Anonomys: /* Homestar's Seven Seconds */

[[Image:payplus_aprilfools2005.JPG|thumb|"Finally At Last!!!"]]

It's April Fool's day and—Oh no! HomestarRunner.com is now a subscription site!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Senor Cardgage}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}'s head, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, [[Frank Bennedetto]], [[Sterrance]], {{Film|Bubs}} ''(warped into his concession stand)'', {{Film|Vector Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Stinkoman}}, {{Film|Rather Dashing}} ''(silhouetted)'', {{Film|Eh! Steve}}, [[The Wheelchair]], [[Ready for Prime Time]], [[Keyboard Strong Bad]], [[The Worm]], [[Sherlock]], [[Mr. Shmallow (character)|Mr. Shmallow]] ''(watermark)'', {{Film|Cheerleader}}, {{Film|So and So}}, {{Film|What's Her Face}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, {{Film|Arrow'd Guy}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Computer Room]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

''' Date:''' April 1, 2005

'''Page Title:''' Finally At Last!!!
__FORCETOC__
== Transcript ==

===Page One===
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====Homestar's Seven Seconds====
''{Cue Homestar standing in the field. A timer counts up in the bottom left corner of the screen starting at 0.15 seconds.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' One... two... three... four... fi-

''{The timer reaches 7.15; a buzzer goes off, and "TRIAL PERIOD OVER!" pops up on the screen.}''

===Page Two===
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====Strong Bad "Trap Door" Sample====

''{Cue Strong Bad sitting in front of his computer, flanked by the Cheat, who is holding a remote control. Homestar is standing on a brown trapdoor in front of Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, the Cheat, let 'er rip!

''{The Cheat presses the button on the remote. The trapdoor opens under Homestar's feet. He falls about two feet and stops.''}

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Woo! That was fun!

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat, I thought we were opting for the [[Bottomless Pits|bottomless pit]]. ''{Homestar starts a little dance with his feet, stepping back and forth gracefully.}'' ... Not a two-foot pit!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to the basement, where Strong Mad sits on the couch with Homestar's feet dancing on top of him.''}

'''STRONG MAD:''' I HAVE A FUNNY HAT!

===Page Three===
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The free sample game resembles Space Invaders with Strong Bad against an army of Homestars coming out of the sky. The Cheat periodically falls from top to bottom and if he hits you, a message will appear saying "YOUR"
"HEAD"(changes to SHIP a second later)
"ASPLODE". Trying to play the game is difficult because the screen continually flashes the message "TRIAL VERSION", locking the game controls. The game also automatically closes itself after the 13th or 14th "TRIAL VERSION" screen, keeping you from advancing.

===Page Four===
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====Teen Girl Squad Sample====

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''{Cut to Wheelchair}''

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''{Arrow'd Guy, with fairy wings, a tutu and a wand, enters and changes the Wheelchair into a realistic drawing of a wheelchair.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{narrating}'' GOOD DRAWINGED!

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===Page Five===
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===Page Six===
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== Fun Facts ==

=== Explanations ===
*The entire April Fool's site is a spoof of the preview pages on many pay-sites on the Internet: the trial videos, the free tour that ends with a sign-up page, the tacky design and layout, and the "streaming video game feeds" all mimic said pages.
**The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This spoofs how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content. However, this may be a reference to a perk of subscribing (viewing unaired Strong Bad E-mails).
**A recent trend for Internet entertainment sites (especially game sites) is to be free for a few years, and then the owners initiate a pay-to-play policy. Perhaps this April Fool's joke was done so the Homestar Runner site would fit the trend.

=== Trivia===
*When the page was first released, the navigation buttons at the bottom of the page weren't there, like [[Under Construction]].
*After the false message about 6 to 8 weeks delivery, the page always directs you to [[Main Page 19]], The Show.
*Pressing '7' on the keyboard (or the numeric keypad) during the trial game will toggle the gray 'TRIAL VERSION' message. If it's onscreen, it will vanish. If it's not onscreen, it will appear. Holding down the 7 key rapidly toggles the message on and off. The 7 key has no effect at any other time.
*The screenshots on the first page show:
**Senor Cardgage showing a pie chart to Homestar, dressed in his pajamas and robe from [[caper]]
**Strong Bad with the [[Lappy 486]] as The Cheat serves him Strong Sad's head on a platter.
**Strong Mad on [[The Couch]] wearing Homestar's Homestarmy bowl, next to Frank Bennedetto.
*The screenshots on the second page show:
**Strong Bad at the [[Tandy 400]] with Sterrance (from [[animal]]) in the foreground.
**Strong Bad destroying a city (à la [[Wikipedia:Godzilla|Godzilla]]).
**Strong Bad in front of [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], which has gained [[Bubs]]' eyes and mouth.
*The third page has:
**A screenshot from [[StrongBadZone]] with the quote "A SPLODE IS A LOT".
**The boxes for the [[Videlectrix]] games [[Planet Alert!]] and [[Spaceshipper]].
**The sprite of Stinkoman from [[Stinkoman 20X6]].
**A screenshot from [[RhinoFeeder]].
**A screenshot from the Videlectrix game [[Rabbit Algebra]].
*There is a [[HR:payplustile.jpg|background tile]] image, but it's only a tiny black line.
*If Homestar only made it to five at the end of the Seven Second Trial he was counting at the rate of one for every 1.4 seconds.
*Using a Flash decompiler, it is possible to see that The Brothers Chaps left ALL of the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|games menu]] in the 7 Second Trial Game instead of just the necessary objects.

=== Remarks ===
*Right clicking and selecting "play" will quickly advance you, page by page, to the very end of the presentation.
*None of the screenshots on the first two pages are from actual toons or emails. The StrongBadZone screenshot contains a quote not found in the game.
*Strong Bad is seen with the [[Tandy 400]] in one of the screenshots, with Sterrance from the email [[animal]] even though that was a [[Lappy 486]] era email.
*Saying that a new Sweet Cuppin' Cakes episode will come out every week pokes fun at the fact that Sweet Cuppin' Cakes almost never gets any new episodes.
*Except for the buttons and movie clips, all content featured on this toon are JPEGs.
*If you shoot all the Homestars in the trial game, a second wave appears.
*On the first page, the right column of pictures is titled "Instant Access", but at the end, it states "You will receive your package in 6 - 8 weeks."
*In the math problem shown in the screen shot of Rabbit Algebra, x = ±4.

===Goofs===
*Pressing the back button while watching the "Let's see a clip!" preview on page 2 will not make the Clip close, but it does close if you go back to page 2. This does not work if you hit "Show me more, sir!" or on any other of the previews.
**Though if you right click and click rewind while watching the other samples, it goes to the first section. It zooms in on the game.
*In the 7 second trial (which is actually 7.15 seconds long, according to counter), the counter in the corner is counting by seconds and then 60ths of seconds. If you watch it frame by frame in the swf. file, you can see the decimal counter is going at 5 60ths of a second per frame, which means the decimal goes up by 5 every frame. At the end of any second, the counter does not go from 55 to 0, it goes from 55 to 60, and then to 65, and then to 10.
*On the "The Email Show" page, in the middle of the screen, Strong Bad's eyes are a much lighter shade of green and have lost the shadow on the tops of his eyes.
*In the .swf file, right clicking and clicking "play" will take you to the "6-8 weeks" page where normally in their toons (when viewed in .swf form), the Brothers Chaps have the cartoon already on "play" mode so that when you click it, all it does is pause the toon.
*The black part of Sterrence's face mask is not present in his screen shot.

=== Inside References ===
*When your ship is destroyed in the trial game, the message "YOUR HEAD A SPLODE" appears, with "head" changing to "ship" a split-second later. This is an obvious reference to [[StrongBadZone]].
*All the sprites in the trial game come from the secret games on [[Strong Bad's Message Bored]].
*The "cred" card shown on page five belongs to [[Leomard Sportsinterviews|Lem Sportsinterviews]], who is a member of the [[Superfied Credit Union]]. This is a reference to the [[credit card]] email and to the [[Downloads]] page.
*Strong Sad's severed head may be a reference to the [[Fan Costume Commentary]].

=== Real-World References ===
*The trial game resembles another Homestar Runner game, [[Armless Invaders]], which in turn resembles an arcade game called [[Wikipedia:Space Invaders|Space Invaders]].
*"I'm a real boy!" is an obvious reference to [[Wikipedia:Pinnochio|Pinocchio]], a wooden puppet who was turned "real" and made a similar remark in at least one version of the story.
*"I'll teach you to steal my date, Eh! Steve! I'm gonna come outta my shell at the Friday Night Dance and show everybody who's who!" and the #9 jersey are references to the movie [[IMDB:tt0112368|Angus]].
*In the background of the Strong Bad "trapdoor" sample, the disk is labeled [[Wikipedia:Hunt the Wumpus|Hunt the Wumpus]].
*The "Interactive Menus!!!" is a clear reference to cut rate DVDs. While most DVDs offer additional features like Director Commentaries, and "Making Of" featurettes, cheap DVDs and DVDs of movies that didn't make enough money to make such featurettes have to get by with advertising Interactive Menus as a bonus feature.

==External Links==
*[[HR:payplus.html|View "PAY PLUS!"]]
*[[HR:payplus2.swf|View the Flash file for "PAY PLUS!"]]
*View the component Flash files for:
**[[HR:7seconds.swf|Homestar's Seven Seconds]]
**[[HR:sbsample.swf|Strong Bad "Trap Door" Sample]]
**[[HR:SevenSecondTrialGame.swf|Trial Game "Homestar Invaders"]]
**[[HR:tgsample.swf|Teen Girl Squad Sample]]

{{Teen Girl Squad}}
[[Category:April Fools]][[Category:Teen Girl Squad]][[Category:Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]

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Anonomys: /* Homestar's Seven Seconds */

[[Image:payplus_aprilfools2005.JPG|thumb|"Finally At Last!!!"]]

It's April Fool's day and—Oh no! HomestarRunner.com is now a subscription site!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Senor Cardgage}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}'s head, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, [[Frank Bennedetto]], [[Sterrance]], {{Film|Bubs}} ''(warped into his concession stand)'', {{Film|Vector Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Stinkoman}}, {{Film|Rather Dashing}} ''(silhouetted)'', {{Film|Eh! Steve}}, [[The Wheelchair]], [[Ready for Prime Time]], [[Keyboard Strong Bad]], [[The Worm]], [[Sherlock]], [[Mr. Shmallow (character)|Mr. Shmallow]] ''(watermark)'', {{Film|Cheerleader}}, {{Film|So and So}}, {{Film|What's Her Face}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, {{Film|Arrow'd Guy}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Computer Room]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

''' Date:''' April 1, 2005

'''Page Title:''' Finally At Last!!!
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== Transcript ==

===Page One===
<pre>HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!
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SIGN UP FOREVER!
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*New annual fee!
*The same content!
*More banner ads!
Free 7 second trial!!
Join now!
Subscriptions are the latest craze!
Loggin' (a login box)
Instant access!
Take the tour!</pre>

====Homestar's Seven Seconds====
''{Cue Homestar standing in the field. A timer counts up in the bottom left corner of the screen startin at 0.15 seconds.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' One... two... three... four... fi-

''{The timer reaches 7.15; a buzzer goes off, and "TRIAL PERIOD OVER!" pops up on the screen.}''

===Page Two===
<pre>The Email Show!
HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!
ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!
WEBCAM CHAT WITH THE CREATORS OR SOMEONE ELSE!
Let's see a clip!
SHOW ME MORE, SIR!</pre>

====Strong Bad "Trap Door" Sample====

''{Cue Strong Bad sitting in front of his computer, flanked by the Cheat, who is holding a remote control. Homestar is standing on a brown trapdoor in front of Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, the Cheat, let 'er rip!

''{The Cheat presses the button on the remote. The trapdoor opens under Homestar's feet. He falls about two feet and stops.''}

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Woo! That was fun!

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat, I thought we were opting for the [[Bottomless Pits|bottomless pit]]. ''{Homestar starts a little dance with his feet, stepping back and forth gracefully.}'' ... Not a two-foot pit!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to the basement, where Strong Mad sits on the couch with Homestar's feet dancing on top of him.''}

'''STRONG MAD:''' I HAVE A FUNNY HAT!

===Page Three===
<pre>There's more?? Why, yes.
HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!
GEE-AMES!
Pay for play!!
Just pennies/pixel!
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Actual screenshots!
Fake boxes
HOURS OF STREAMING VIDEO GAME FEEDS
FREE SAMPLE GAME
"Sign Up Today Man"
1 player simultaneous
CHECK MARK!
Continue Free Tour!</pre>

The free sample game resembles Space Invaders with Strong Bad against an army of Homestars coming out of the sky. The Cheat periodically falls from top to bottom and if he hits you, a message will appear saying "YOUR"
"HEAD"(changes to SHIP a second later)
"ASPLODE". Trying to play the game is difficult because the screen continually flashes the message "TRIAL VERSION", locking the game controls. The game also automatically closes itself after the 13th or 14th "TRIAL VERSION" screen, keeping you from advancing.

===Page Four===
<pre>HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!
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Meet Eh! Steve!'s Lawyer!
Win a chance to have lunch with the Worm-type character!

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See the unaired pilot, the holiday special, and the 'everybody dies' episodes!

And also, too:
Answering Machines out the wazoo
Powered by The Cheat-athons!
Senor Cardgage Wednesdays
Mr. Shmallow's Webcam

Extra free sample here!
On the Tour?</pre>

====Teen Girl Squad Sample====

''{Cheerleader, So and So, and The Ugly One are standing around. Cheerleader's shirt reads "sperld rott'n".}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' That stupid wheelchair kid asked me to the Friday Night Dance! But I'm going with Steven!

''{Enter Eh! Steve!, wearing a football uniform with the number nine}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' ''{speech bubble fills with hearts}'' Hey, Steven!

'''EH! STEVE:''' Eh! Steve!

''{Cut to Wheelchair}''

'''WHEELCHAIR:''' I'll teach you to steal my date, Eh! Steve! I'm gonna come outta my shell at the Friday Night Dance and show everybody who's whooooooooooo!

''{Arrow'd Guy, with fairy wings, a tutu and a wand, enters and changes the Wheelchair into a realistic drawing of a wheelchair.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{narrating}'' GOOD DRAWINGED!

'''WHEELCHAIR:''' I'm a real boy!

''{Cut to the "It's Over!" splash screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{narrating}'' It's over!

===Page Five===
<pre>View Shopping Cart
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</pre>

===Page Six===
<pre>Thank you for your order.
You will receive your package
in 6-8 weeks.</pre>

== Fun Facts ==

=== Explanations ===
*The entire April Fool's site is a spoof of the preview pages on many pay-sites on the Internet: the trial videos, the free tour that ends with a sign-up page, the tacky design and layout, and the "streaming video game feeds" all mimic said pages.
**The second page claims "ACCESS TO ALL 230+ STRONG BAD EMAILS!" when there were only 127 emails at the time it was posted. This spoofs how subscription sites often flagrantly misrepresent their content. However, this may be a reference to a perk of subscribing (viewing unaired Strong Bad E-mails).
**A recent trend for Internet entertainment sites (especially game sites) is to be free for a few years, and then the owners initiate a pay-to-play policy. Perhaps this April Fool's joke was done so the Homestar Runner site would fit the trend.

=== Trivia===
*When the page was first released, the navigation buttons at the bottom of the page weren't there, like [[Under Construction]].
*After the false message about 6 to 8 weeks delivery, the page always directs you to [[Main Page 19]], The Show.
*Pressing '7' on the keyboard (or the numeric keypad) during the trial game will toggle the gray 'TRIAL VERSION' message. If it's onscreen, it will vanish. If it's not onscreen, it will appear. Holding down the 7 key rapidly toggles the message on and off. The 7 key has no effect at any other time.
*The screenshots on the first page show:
**Senor Cardgage showing a pie chart to Homestar, dressed in his pajamas and robe from [[caper]]
**Strong Bad with the [[Lappy 486]] as The Cheat serves him Strong Sad's head on a platter.
**Strong Mad on [[The Couch]] wearing Homestar's Homestarmy bowl, next to Frank Bennedetto.
*The screenshots on the second page show:
**Strong Bad at the [[Tandy 400]] with Sterrance (from [[animal]]) in the foreground.
**Strong Bad destroying a city (à la [[Wikipedia:Godzilla|Godzilla]]).
**Strong Bad in front of [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], which has gained [[Bubs]]' eyes and mouth.
*The third page has:
**A screenshot from [[StrongBadZone]] with the quote "A SPLODE IS A LOT".
**The boxes for the [[Videlectrix]] games [[Planet Alert!]] and [[Spaceshipper]].
**The sprite of Stinkoman from [[Stinkoman 20X6]].
**A screenshot from [[RhinoFeeder]].
**A screenshot from the Videlectrix game [[Rabbit Algebra]].
*There is a [[HR:payplustile.jpg|background tile]] image, but it's only a tiny black line.
*If Homestar only made it to five at the end of the Seven Second Trial he was counting at the rate of one for every 1.4 seconds.
*Using a Flash decompiler, it is possible to see that The Brothers Chaps left ALL of the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|games menu]] in the 7 Second Trial Game instead of just the necessary objects.

=== Remarks ===
*Right clicking and selecting "play" will quickly advance you, page by page, to the very end of the presentation.
*None of the screenshots on the first two pages are from actual toons or emails. The StrongBadZone screenshot contains a quote not found in the game.
*Strong Bad is seen with the [[Tandy 400]] in one of the screenshots, with Sterrance from the email [[animal]] even though that was a [[Lappy 486]] era email.
*Saying that a new Sweet Cuppin' Cakes episode will come out every week pokes fun at the fact that Sweet Cuppin' Cakes almost never gets any new episodes.
*Except for the buttons and movie clips, all content featured on this toon are JPEGs.
*If you shoot all the Homestars in the trial game, a second wave appears.
*On the first page, the right column of pictures is titled "Instant Access", but at the end, it states "You will receive your package in 6 - 8 weeks."
*In the math problem shown in the screen shot of Rabbit Algebra, x = ±4.

===Goofs===
*Pressing the back button while watching the "Let's see a clip!" preview on page 2 will not make the Clip close, but it does close if you go back to page 2. This does not work if you hit "Show me more, sir!" or on any other of the previews.
**Though if you right click and click rewind while watching the other samples, it goes to the first section. It zooms in on the game.
*In the 7 second trial (which is actually 7.15 seconds long, according to counter), the counter in the corner is counting by seconds and then 60ths of seconds. If you watch it frame by frame in the swf. file, you can see the decimal counter is going at 5 60ths of a second per frame, which means the decimal goes up by 5 every frame. At the end of any second, the counter does not go from 55 to 0, it goes from 55 to 60, and then to 65, and then to 10.
*On the "The Email Show" page, in the middle of the screen, Strong Bad's eyes are a much lighter shade of green and have lost the shadow on the tops of his eyes.
*In the .swf file, right clicking and clicking "play" will take you to the "6-8 weeks" page where normally in their toons (when viewed in .swf form), the Brothers Chaps have the cartoon already on "play" mode so that when you click it, all it does is pause the toon.
*The black part of Sterrence's face mask is not present in his screen shot.

=== Inside References ===
*When your ship is destroyed in the trial game, the message "YOUR HEAD A SPLODE" appears, with "head" changing to "ship" a split-second later. This is an obvious reference to [[StrongBadZone]].
*All the sprites in the trial game come from the secret games on [[Strong Bad's Message Bored]].
*The "cred" card shown on page five belongs to [[Leomard Sportsinterviews|Lem Sportsinterviews]], who is a member of the [[Superfied Credit Union]]. This is a reference to the [[credit card]] email and to the [[Downloads]] page.
*Strong Sad's severed head may be a reference to the [[Fan Costume Commentary]].

=== Real-World References ===
*The trial game resembles another Homestar Runner game, [[Armless Invaders]], which in turn resembles an arcade game called [[Wikipedia:Space Invaders|Space Invaders]].
*"I'm a real boy!" is an obvious reference to [[Wikipedia:Pinnochio|Pinocchio]], a wooden puppet who was turned "real" and made a similar remark in at least one version of the story.
*"I'll teach you to steal my date, Eh! Steve! I'm gonna come outta my shell at the Friday Night Dance and show everybody who's who!" and the #9 jersey are references to the movie [[IMDB:tt0112368|Angus]].
*In the background of the Strong Bad "trapdoor" sample, the disk is labeled [[Wikipedia:Hunt the Wumpus|Hunt the Wumpus]].
*The "Interactive Menus!!!" is a clear reference to cut rate DVDs. While most DVDs offer additional features like Director Commentaries, and "Making Of" featurettes, cheap DVDs and DVDs of movies that didn't make enough money to make such featurettes have to get by with advertising Interactive Menus as a bonus feature.

==External Links==
*[[HR:payplus.html|View "PAY PLUS!"]]
*[[HR:payplus2.swf|View the Flash file for "PAY PLUS!"]]
*View the component Flash files for:
**[[HR:7seconds.swf|Homestar's Seven Seconds]]
**[[HR:sbsample.swf|Strong Bad "Trap Door" Sample]]
**[[HR:SevenSecondTrialGame.swf|Trial Game "Homestar Invaders"]]
**[[HR:tgsample.swf|Teen Girl Squad Sample]]

{{Teen Girl Squad}}
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