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Talk:SBCG4AP Advertisement

24.34.71.97 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:55:38 GMT

24.34.71.97: /**/SOOOOOOOOOOoo fast!

== NES poster ==

Man, there are so many awesome Inside References in this! Temporarios, Suge Brown, the plaques from [[no loafing]], and the Videlectrix poster in the stairwell is a parody of [http://trsrockin.com/images/powerposter.jpg this NES poster]! I probably have 15 of those in a box somewhere :D {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

== 404'd, or not ready? ==

Whoever made the edit of "not yet active," was it just 404'd? I'd like to put that in Trivia if it was, because it exists now, but only with a message. --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 21:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

== MiiWare ==

Should "MiiWare" be a considerable reference to Miis? --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 21:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
: Actually, for all we know, Strong Bad meant Me-Ware, not Mii-Ware. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:44, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

== Title Change? ==

In the TV Time Toons Menu, it's listed under "SBCG4AP," just like the HTML file for it. Should we move the article when we get the transcript done? --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 21:45, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

== Rabid dog? ==

I hear "rabbit dog", not "rabid dog" as one of the Real World Refs calls it. On second though, we should probably wait until the transcript is done. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 21:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:Funny, I hear that too. But I'm not sure it makes enough sense to put down. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
::I think it does. Sam is way more of a "rabbit" dog (a hybrid of a rabbit and a dog, with his vaguely bunnyish ears) than a "rabid" dog. [[User:Dementedc|Dementedc]] 21:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Ooh, insider information; it's "rabbit dog": [http://telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4875&page=2]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:27, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

== Glitch? ==

Is this thing playing choppy on anyone else's computers as well? It's still funnier than rated though. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
*What parts are choppy? Or is it just occasional? --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 22:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:I didn't notice any glitchy problems, but I did notice a big increase in the frame rate. {{User:Super Turtle/sig}} 22:19, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

== What dimension? ==

I'm actually not listening right now, as now isn't an opportune time, but wouldn't it make more sense for Strong Bad to give the "3 Ds" as "'''''Depth''''', Dimension, and Dumb idiots"? Or at least something that begins with a D? "Yeah" seems out of context. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:Corrected. It didn't make much sense, but I had trouble hearing that - now you say "Depth" it makes perfect sense and sounds right. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 22:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

== SOOOOOOOOOOoo fast! ==

Is it just me, or did the things in this "commercial" move faster than most homestar stuff?

Talk:Limozeen Live (practice)

24.34.71.97 — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:25:15 GMT

24.34.71.97: Hmmm....

==Notice==

Seperate page, same as this one, or same as the soon-to-appear event page? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:57, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:Not sure there's enough info for a full page (nothing to transcribe, unlike [[Jibblies 2 Teaser]]). One of the others would work, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:12, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::[[strongbad_email.exe DVD Promo|It's been done before]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:19, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Hrm, that is an excellent point... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:20, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I think the way it's worked out so far, is that if it's just a [[H*R.com updates 2005#Monday, February 28, 2005|main]] [[H*R.com updates 2005#Wednesday, August 31, 2005|page]] [[H*R.com updates 2007#Monday, July 2, 2007|bubble]] it gets a note on the closest page, but if it's got it's own page on the site, it gets it own page on our site. My biggest question is the correct name for the page. :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'd name it [[Limozeen Live! Notice]], or something similar. Once it has its own page, can we get a pic from the actual toon in here, too? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::Definitely. I was gonna get one, but I couldn't decide what the right one would be. I keep coming back to the part with the ??? popup bubble pointing at Homestar... And for page title, maybe [[Limozeen Live! Promo]] to keep it consistent? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:30, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Hmmm... Maybe we should debate this closer to date stated? Oh, and if anyone lives near the concert, keep your eyes plealed for posters! Some less devoted fans don't check the site that often, so they would want to make sure enough people find out about it. Maybe even non-homestar fans will see them and think Homestar is a mascot... Sorry for getting side-tracted. {{User:Haldo/sig}}

==Stuff in the Background==
Question: Is that a wave-your-arms-around style video gaming console I spy on top of the television? Also, should the Homestar puppet be mentioned in the article? [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 06:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:I can't speak for the first for certain (though I did notice the object and thought similarly), but I think the puppet will be mentioned once a transcript is complete (though I'm not sure how we'll transcribe one such as this). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
::Yup, it's definitely a Vii. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:24, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

==Lazor==
Given that they have at least one Band member: "CRUSH," that proves that Lazor is a 'real' band akin to Limozeen and Taranchula, unlike just a suggestion like Bigg Nife, doesn't it deserve it's own page, however small that article may be?? —[[User:Flashfight|Flashfight]] 10:37, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I sure think it does. Does anybody disagree? [[User:99.233.179.152|99.233.179.152]] 21:54, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

That is a very good point ~ [[User:MBD123|MBD123]]

Uh-huh. {{User:Haldo/sig}}

== So, as for next Sursdai..... ==

Assuming they're not just being silly, is there anyone in the Atlanta area who can go to Ten High next week to write an article/transcript/set list? If so, the following points: 
1) Will our brave adventurer be taking a camera? This is the kind of thing we would all love to see, and some of us aren't quite so close. 
2) Will this be legal? Now, really, I don't see TBC having a problem with a wiki member filming it for posterity, but the club owner/manager is important here, too. 
3) How shall we go about the necessary inquiries as to legality: ASAP, or on the day of? Doing it ahead of time, our adventurer might be able to get not only clearance, but optimum seating. 
Wishing he were in Georgia, {{User:Onamuji/sig}} 15:36, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

:Something else that would be nice to know in case anyone is in the know. The announcement convieniently omits how much it is at the door. I'm very seriously considering taking a little road trip to Georga to see it. I'm assuming it wouldn't be more than $10-20, but in the rare event that it's like $100, I think I'll pass. But, although, I couldn't afford it (there's a good chance I won't be able to afford the trip at all), it would definately be worth it. This is like the concert of a lifetime, as far as I'm concerned. That, and a road trim to Texas to see [[Wikipedia:The From: HomestarRunner <homestarrunner2001@yahoo.com> Pillows|The Pillows]], and I'd die a happy man.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 04:24, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
::Well, if someone wants to e-mail TBC and ask them Question #2 and JJ's question, that would be nice. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:11, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::The club management need not be worried about. The talent, yes. I'd suggest that someone with deep access to TBC contact them to see what recording and coverage would be acceptable. Perhaps they'd be amenable if we work through channels. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

::: I emailed Karen Wagner about the matter, and got this as a reply.

<tt><blockquote>Date: Tue, Mar 25, 2008 12:24 pm 
From: HomestarRunner <homestarrunner2001@yahoo.com> 
To: admin@devonm.com 

Subject: Re: Homestar Runner "Concert" 
 
Devon, 
 
I talked to Matt and as far as he knows the club has no policy banning the taping of performances. 

 
Thanks, 
 
Karen</blockquote></tt>

So, in short, if anyone wishes to go to the bar and tape the show and/or take any photos, they are welcome to do so. -[[User:Strong Devon|Strong Devon]] 23:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

== 21 and older? ==

Hrm... Seems like a legit warning to me...

Is this taking place in a bar or something?

-Everybody! (hasn't logged in yet and is currently using IP address [[User:70.247.200.128|70.247.200.128]])

:Yes, it is in a bar. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

== What! I can't see orange! ==

Hey, whenever I viewe this page, the text never shows up at the begining, it just skips straight to the toon. Does this happen to anyone else?--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 04:07, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:The link goes straight to the toon, not to the text part. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:21, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== Oranges? ==

I don't get that line. How is that related to Guitar Hero? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 10:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:It's talking about the fifth fret button (colored orange) that's only used above medium difficulty. -[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 11:30, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== PLEASE Tell Me This Is Real! ==

I would seriously spend the money to be able to see this... But let's remeber that it might not be real, like, they were just fooling around or something. For the sake of many H*R fans, we MUST invesigate this... ASAP.
:[[alternate universe|This is about the second or third worst post I've ever heard or seen of]]. I'm just kidding. We already now this isn't real. TBC would hold a press-media thing or or an interview. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 13:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::No, I'm actually betting this ''is'' real. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 13:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Dude, I'm not sure why people are so convinced this is somehow bogus, when it's announced not only on the H*R website, but also on the [http://www.pleaserock.com website of a known TBC collaborator], [[Y-O-U]] as part of their regular shows at a real bar. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 14:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Not to mention it's officially listed on the [http://www.myspace.com/pleaserocksurpriseparty MySpace page] for the concert series of which it is a part. It all seems pretty legit. TBC aren't Paris Hilton. They don't have to call a press confrence for everything they do.--{{User:Johnny Jupiter/sig}} 22:01, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

=="Duet" versus "Do It"==

In the transcript of the song itself... doesn't "do it" make more sense... especially considering the references to Texas Instruments and "low-res" beauty queen. In other words she remembers how they did stuff in the old days. --Aegd
:"Duet" was the word used in the [[Quote of the Week#QW-2006-07-27|Quote of the Week]] way back when. Thusly, used here too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 03:30, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

== Disney Reference? ==

Don't the pop-ups look a lot like the ones the Disney Channel does in some of their movies? where they make notes on the production and actors?

==Hmmm....==
This was a few days ago! does anyone have it on tape?

Talk:What's Her Face

24.34.71.97 — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:21:16 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* Just a side note */ Am I crazy?

'''Questionable Note '''

(She is the girl) ... who seems to be the one who takes the most damage, physically and emotionally.
:She actually seems to get killed the least often of any of the girls.

Uhmm... no? Being "killed" and "[taking]... damage, physically and emotionally" are different things. Strong Sad could tell you that. Also, emotional pain is completely irrelevant to death. So although you MAY AS well be right that she GETS KILLED less often (in fact I think only thrice), that doesn't contradict the above statement.
*punt = fatal
*bat whacking = not fatal but painful
*not getting to go to the mall = emotionally painful but far from fatal
*possums = painful, but not fatal
*heavy object falling = fatal
*being entirely overlooked = emotionally painful; more fatal than mall but not that fatal
*wave of babies = slightly painful; mainly annoying
*Mrs. Commanderson's claws = barely painful
*almost getting eaten = not yet but almost fatal
*legless desk = very degrading, emotional pain equals very yes
*stuck playing bass = emotionally painful
*eaten by shark = fatal
I think perhaps the fact that she gets killed less might increase this. Once you're dead that's it, you can't feel it anymore. But if you're alive the pain just keeps coming along- Overused and Underappreciated (I'm not logged in.)

I'd also like to remind everyone that she's the only desireable one.

:Yeah. But uh, minds don't think alike. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 12:25, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

*She has to be about 17 if she's had her lisence for a year. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 13:20, 27 June 2005

:*Not necessarily. We don't know the licensing laws in Mundelow. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 01:29, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the person who wasn't logged in. I also agree she's the most desirable.[[User:20X6 GEM|20X6 GEM]]

==From the Paper "Teen Girl Squad: Class Stratification and the Role of Otherness Within A Multi-teen Peer Group Dynamic"==

I think that's because she's there as a [[Wikipedia:Foil (literature)|foil]]. She's the 90s-alt-quasigrunge element to offset the materialistic, leetspeaking, "boymongering" (?), tone of the rest of the Squad. Granted, those traits are primarily ascribable to Cheerleader, but as highlighted in Episode 9, the Squad takes its cues from her. WHF is not so emphatic in her counterculturalism as to leave the Squad, which I think is still a point in her favor. She stays real, principled, and level-headed, but not unnecessarily, divisively, or wearisomely so--if she did she'd be Marzipan. [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 17:19, 26 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I had not thought it possible for anyone to deconstruct What's Her Face in such a way. But you did. If I could give out an honorary degree from CGNU, I would. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}}

Thanks, smokingmonkeydude. But wait, I just noticed the part where it says "her real name is either Virginia, Joy, or Jennifer." Anybody know where they're getting that from? [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 06:56, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

[[comic]]. [[So and So]] is referred to as Kristina, so it logically follows that the other three girls are the other three emailers names. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 08:00, 27 September 2005 (BST)

Thanks--it finally ocurred to me to search for it, and I found that. I have a hunch she's the Jennifer. That would make Cheerleader Joy, of course.[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 07:03, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:What evidence do you have to back up your claim? {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:11, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Oh, none; I wasn't really saying that as a serious theory based on something in a 'toon, just musing based on my gut-level feelings about those names (probably related to people I've known who had them).[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 00:07, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Eh, I always thought she should be Joy. But that's just me. -[[User:PAUAU|PAUAU]]
:I say she's Jennifer. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:26, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::I think she'd be Jennifer, not that this really matters. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::I always figured her name would be Joy since she's usually the most depressed.
:::I think The Ugly One should be called Joy.--[[User:Trinculoid|Trinculoid]] 01:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

== Most Dates ==

Perhaps it's just me, but What's Her Face seems to have the most romantic interest than anyone else. Case in point.

There is a hint that she's dating Thomas, the one-foot alien.
She apparently dated Science Fiction Greg, and was willing to do so when Cheerleader died in episode 9.
She went off to find a "remote access point" with the Wireless Wizard
DnD Greg show interest when she goes off with the Wireless Wizard

The only way to assume otherwise is if Cheerleader actually did get valentines from all the football players except one (presumably Quarterback).

:Hmm... that is interesting. Considering Cheerleader is the stereotypical popular high school girl, she most likely did get a valentine from all of the football players. ;-) But, yeah, that's a really good point you make about What's Her Face. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 04:46, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

:I think Whats Her Face has the most COMMONLY APPEARING love interests.

== Just a side note ==

Hey, is it just me, or does What's Her Face have the most expressive face of all the teen girls? Honestly, she seems to have a the strongest reaction to events. A good example is in issue 11, cheerleader and So-and-So ignore The Ugly One when she says "I'm gonna miss those oak leaves..." but What's Her Face looks freaked out. Also, when Mrs.Soandsoerson screams at the girls in issue 8, her mouth engsmslode'd up her face. Does that sound crazy? {{User:Haldo/sig}}

Sloshybowl

24.34.71.97 — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:28:15 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* Transcript */ Strong sad: OW!

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|sloshybowl|Trogday 08|Homestarloween Party}}
[[Image:Sloshybowl.png|thumb|"Give it up for the popular music stylings of... sloshy?"]]
sloshy hosts the Super Bowl halftime show.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[sloshy]], {{film|Strong Sad}}

'''Places:''' [[Strong Bad's Basement]]

'''Date:''' Sunday, February 3, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 1:33

'''Page Title:''' Futbol Americano en Espanol!

== Transcript ==
'''ANNOUNCER:''' And now, ladies and gentlemen, for your halftime entertainment and delight, please give it up for the popular musical stylings of ''{surprised}'' sloshy?

''{audience groans}''

''{Strong Sad is seated on the couch in the basement, wearing his sloshy t-shirt, watching the program.}''

'''SLOSHY:''' Uh uh uh uh uh uh uh 
American football championship! (Game!) 
American football championship! (Game!) 

''{Strong Sad begins to nod rhythmically to the music.}''

'''SLOSHY:''' American football championship! (Game!) 
American football championship! (Game!) 

I've got no money riding on this one! (He's got no money riding on this one.) 
I've got no money riding on this one! (He's got exactly zero dollars riding on this one.) 
I've got no money riding on this one! (None.) 
I've got no money riding on this one! 

''{Strong Sad raises his right index finger in the air, closes his eyes, bows his head, and nods more intently.}''

'''SLOSHY:''' Oh, American football championship game! 
American football championship game! 
American football championship game! 
America! America! America! America! 
Game! (Game.)

'''AUDIENCE:''' ''{Cheers}''

'''SECOND SLOSHY MEMBER:''' We played soccer in high school.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Woooo! ''{lifts up his shirt revealing the sloshy logo on his chest}''

''{Strong Sad gets hit in the head with a soccer ball.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Ow!

''{The audience on the TV hold up cards with the sloshy logo}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Click on the [[Telebision]] screen at the end of the toon, and the sloshy logo will turn into a [[Chuck Taylor All-Stars|Chuck Taylor sneaker]]. Once clicked, there's no way to return to the sloshy logo.

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The lyrics about having no money riding on this refers to the common practice of [[Wikipedia:betting|betting]] on the [[Wikipedia:Super Bowl|Super Bowl]].

===Trivia===
*The page title translates to "American Football in Spanish!" though "Futbol" should be "Fútbol" and "Espanol" should be "Español".
*This toon was aired on the same day as [[Wikipedia:Super_Bowl_XLII|Super Bowl XLII]].

===Inside References===
*The loading screen reads "LOADiNG", a use of [[Lowercase i's]].
*"American Football Championship Game" is another use of [[Nondescript Nouns]].
==External Links==
*[[HR:sloshybowl.html|Watch "Sloshybowl"]]
*[[HR:sloshybowl.swf|View the Flash file for "Sloshybowl"]]
*[[forum:13512|Forum thread re: Sloshybowl]]

[[Category:Holiday Toons]]

Talk:The King of Town and The Poopsmith's Relationship

24.34.71.97 — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:33:23 GMT

24.34.71.97: '''YOU'RE ALL IDIOTS.'''

{{tbd}}
==The title: why did it change?==

There was a reson I made the poopsmith's name first in the title when I first wrote: Their relationship mainly centers around the poopsmith's like/admiration of the king. So I ask you; why did the title change so the king's name would be first? {{User:Haldo/sig}}
:[[User:DeFender1031/Character_Relationships|This page]] said The KOT's name should go first, and he is more significant to the H*R body of work than that guy who says nothing and shovels lots of crap is. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:18, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::Oh. I see. Could you at least see my reasoning? {{User:Haldo/sig}}
:::Bad Bad Guy, DeFender's table of character relationships is just to show which character relationship articles do and do not exist. It is not designed to dictate what they will be named when they get created; that would be too presumptuous. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 22:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

==Delete==
I don't think this relationship is worth an article. There's just nothing to make the King of Town's relationship with The Poopsmith interesting or special: It's a one-sided relationship, with nothing contrary to how we would expect the King to treat a servant/employee or vice versa. It also doesn't play a really major role in the H*R body of work, the way H*R and Strong Bad's or Coach Z and Bubs's does. I suggest deletion. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:34, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:The same could be said about strong sad and homsar. {{User:Haldo/sig}}
::How's that? Homsar isn't a "servant/employee" of Strong Sad's. They just have a weird "friendship". Not really relevant here, IMO. -{{User:YK/sig}} 02:58, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::What I meant was that Strong Sad and Homsar don't have a very conflicted relationship. There is some conflict on strong sad's part, though. I think that this article is relevant because it contradicts the entire Homestar Runner Universe. There is ALWAYS conflict in two character's relationships, right? Not here. It is the only relationship were there is much contact that is "perfect." The King cares about the Poopsmith, and in return the Poopsmith admires the King. See? The perfect relationship. {{User:Haldo/sig}}
::::"I keep telling him the sun don't rise and set on that pile of whatsit, but he don't wanna listen." Sounds like conflict to me. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:55, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::I agree with Heimstern, there is nothing special about their relationship. The article should be '''deleted'''.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yarg, did anyone listen to my long, drawn out reply?! {{User:Haldo/sig}}
::::::DorainGray probably did since he pointed out a flaw. Did ''you'' listen to ''him''? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 01:16, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yes. Yes, I did. And I found another time where the king insults the poopsmith: "Poopsmith? you smell like a ''crap''smith!" That's exactly the number of disturbances in the relationship there are in "Strong Sad and Homsar's Relationship". And there was one more, it was... AUGH, way computer shut down before I finished and I forgot what the other one was! Anyway, I still say '''KEEP'''.
::::::::HEY, wait a second! If THIS can't have it's own page why should [[Homestar Runner and Coach Z's Relationship]]?!?! '''YARG!!'''

Talk:The King of Town and The Poopsmith's Relationship

24.34.71.97 — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:24:01 GMT

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Talk:The King of Town and The Poopsmith's Relationship

24.34.71.97 — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:07:58 GMT

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HRWiki talk:Template messages

24.34.71.97 — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 01:09:13 GMT

24.34.71.97: please, help! come quick!

== Merge? ==
Should the contents of [[User:Phlip/Templates]] be merged into this page? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 12:47, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

uh, where's that one that says "this article may need to think of a better comando name"? I need to use it! {{User:Haldo/sig}}

Talk:Monte Negro

24.34.71.97 — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:22:35 GMT

24.34.71.97: delete this worthless excuse for crap!

''This has been refactored'': Before his appearance on [[Main Page 22]], there was a little debate as to how to categorize Monte. Now he is a character, rather than an "inside joke".

*Could he be related to Biscuit Dough Hands Man? They...have similar hair!

*Alright, this is ridiculous. How can this guy be a character? He's a friggin' drawing! He doesn't interact at all! -[[User:Clever Ben|Clever Ben]]

:[[Homestar Runner]] is also a friggin' drawing. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]
::WHAT THE...?! '''Delete that crap.''' {{User:Haldo/sig}}

Talk:CompressOR

24.34.71.97 — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 05:54:44 GMT

24.34.71.97: toy, maybe?

Should we consider this a toy or not?

Talk:Children

24.34.71.97 — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:03:48 GMT

24.34.71.97: link to babies, because the babies article could use the advertising.

==Babies count?==

I just added the email highschool to the article. Do babies count as children? IMO highschool belongs on the article. [[User:Kurosaki|Kurosaki]] 22:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

==Please Help==
This is such a large topic I am surprised no one has created it yet. Please contribute. --{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 05:46, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

== Necessary? ==

I really doubt that this page is necessary. the user above claims that this topic is so big, so why didn't somebody create it? Children is not really a real topic, IMO. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 06:01, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

With so many references, doesn't it qualify as a running gag yet? There are less notable articles on this wiki that are allowed to exist, I am not being biased because I just created it, I just don't see how it's not a real topic.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 06:10, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:Why don't don't you think this isn't necessary Techgeekmbg. I think it's fine. If you think this should be merged into [[Parents]], that's not a likely going to happen. [[PBS]], is possibly a choice. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 14:25, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't really think it's fair to merge into PBS, it's not made completely for children, it's just a public channel--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 01:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:Children are referenced pretty rarely. And when they are, you don't "see them", they're just mentioned. I don't think we need this.[[User:Timic83|Timic83]] 05:36, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
::This is a stub, there are more references out there, and even still, we have 6 references already, and you see the [[The Sad Kids]] and [[Nibbles]] and surely there are more, how are they not referenced often?--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 11:10, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
::There are a number of item pages in the wiki (for example [[Boats]]) where the reference is infrequent or rare. If the Children page is deleted (treating it as an item), then the other items that are infrequently mentioned or notice should also be revaluated. This would be a case of list creep. [[User:Wbwolf|Wbwolf]] 02:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:::So...is this going to be resolved any time soon, since nobody is saying anything...--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 13:35, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
::::6 is more than 3, i remember learning that in school. '''keep''' {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:42, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

well, maybe some of the appearences listed don't have very strong connections to actual chldren (i.e., the original book,) but children are a part of the website, and therefore it should stay. --[[User:Acam30|Acam30]] 19:33, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, I say keep it.[[User:Timic83|Timic83]] 22:02, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

OH!!! I just had an idea: '''MERGE CHILDREN WITH [[BABIES]].''' Good idea or bad idea? [[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 21:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

This page is extremely unnecessary. When I was trying to come up with a suitable rewrite for the introduction, it occurred to me that there isn't anything special about any of the mentions of children on H*R. They never appear in unusual contexts. That differs from something like [[Eggs]], where eggs often show up in weird or memorable places. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:28, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:well... the van is odd, but other than that, it's just generic... not sure... '''neutral''' {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:[[:Image:childrend.png|Well, almost never]]. But I still agree. Not notable! Ding! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::I agree with H*C. '''<s>Deete</s> Delort'''{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:35, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Homestar Coder has made a good point... MATT!....or...neutral....[[user:haldo]]

Babies

24.34.71.97 — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:00:26 GMT

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{{tbd}}
[[Image:Wave_of_Babies.PNG|thumb|"A wave o' babies!"]]

From mere mentions to "waves", '''babies''' are hard to miss on [[homestarrunner.com]].

==Appearances==
*[[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] — [[Strong Bad]] says "Oh, look at the babies! Eating their marshmallows!" when he sees [[Homestar Runner| Homestar]] and [[Pom Pom]].
*[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]] — A "[[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Wave o' Babies|Wave o' Babies]]" approaches [[What's Her Face]].
*[[Peasant's Quest]] — [[The Baby Lady]] is holding a baby.
*Email [[for kids]] — Strong Bad thinks that the email's sender meant "the littlest, tiniest babies" when he said "kids".
*[[Shopping For Danger]] — [[Gunhaver]] fears [[Blue Laser]] is planning to use the money they will save to turn babies into [[gold]]. The [[Blue Laser Babies]] make an appearance.
*Email [[animal]] — When Strong Bad is introducing the Lappy, he mentions "babies havin' babies".
*[[Senorial Day]] — [[Senor Cardgage]] offers hot dogs "for your...babies".
*Email [[bottom 10]] — The [[Fluffy Puff]] Nibblin's commercial states that their product is "perfect for newborn-type babies".
*[[More Fan Costumes]] — Some of the fans' kids are dressed as, as Strong Bad puts it, "Homestar Babies".
*Email [[highschool]] — [[Strong Bad]] describes the citizens of [[Free Country, USA]] as melon-headed babies in their middle school years.
*Email [[Myths and Legends]] — The ancient fence drawings show "stolen babies".
*Email [[pop-up]] — One of the features of the Strong Bad pop-up book is "wing-a-ling babies".
*Email [[4 branches]] — In the polymascotfoamalate commercial, [[The Homestar Runner]] says to "feed it to the babies".
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13]] — [[Tompkins]] is "BABY SAT!!" shorty after claiming he didn't need a babysitter. Also, Timkins the baby apears.

==Also See==
[[Children]]

What's Her Face

24.34.71.97 — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:16:09 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* Trivia */

[[Image:tgs-whatface.PNG|thumb|right|220px|"dag, yo"]]
[[Image:Kiddie_Whats_Her_Face.PNG|thumb|right|220px|She can count to G.]]
[[Image:What's-her-face_color.png|thumb|right|220px|Dag, yo, she's in color.]]

'''What's Her [[Names Ending in -face|Face]]''' is the "pity friend" member of the [[Teen Girl Squad]] who is distinguished mainly by her common sense and, consequently, mistreatment from the other members of the squad.

==Biography==
What's Her Face is slightly dumpy-looking. She has a few strings of long, apparently black hair, and dresses in a modest T-shirt and pants. She is probably seventeen years old, as she has held her driver's license for over a year.

She is the least popular and most ignored member of the Teen Girl Squad; in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3|Issue 3]], [[Cheerleader]] excludes her specifically from a trip to the mall and sends her to a thrift store, and forgets to invite her to the beach in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5|Issue 5]]. Despite her strained relationship with Cheerleader, What's Her Face seems to have a pretty strong relationship with [[The Ugly One]], as evidenced by [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4|Issue 4]].

What's Her Face could be described as somewhat depressed; when "punted" by a dinosaur in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1|Issue 1]], her parting words were a simple, "dag, yo". Other issues support this attitude. She also is much smarter than the other members of the squad, as evidenced by her refusal to dive into the [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Gift Exchange Lion|Gift Exchange Lion's]] mouth in the [[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad|Decemberween special]], and many of her deaths are apparently randomly induced by [[Strong Bad]]'s overactive imagination, although her stroke of stupidity in eating "Staple Sauce" in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|Issue 9]] is not consistent with this.

As a pre-K girl in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|Teeny Tiny Girl Squad]], she had "lice and more". To her credit, she was able to count to [[g]] at a young age. She wore a frayed dress rather than her signature baggy pants.

What's Her Face has dabbled in music: she contributed a track to [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]], the dance hit "[[i think i have a chance with this guy]]", and played bass in [[Kissyboots]] in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|Issue 8]] before her bass transformed into a shark and ate "her most of her".

===Trivia===
*She is also the only girl in the squad to wear [[pants]].
*She is the only girl whose legs are hidden (by her baggy pants). There is some inconsistency about her legs and feet, however; in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3|Issue 3]] her legs have width, but in Issues [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|7]] and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11|11]], she has stick legs and feet like the other Teen Girls.
*According to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5|Issue 5]], she lives at 412 S. Figgis, [[Mundelow]], [[Zip Codes|80808]].
*Her bass-playing stance reveals she is left-handed.
*In [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|Issue 9]], it is revealed that she dates [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Science Fiction Greg|Science Fiction Greg]]. This makes her the only member of the Squad to have a real (in the terms of Teen Girl Squad, at least) boyfriend.
*She has a tendency to narrate her own life, as shown in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3|Issue 3]] ("I'm walking home from the thrift store"), [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5|Issue 5]] ("I got a postcard"), and the song [[I Think I Have a Chance With This Guy]] ("I'll answer the phone").
*In [[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad|Issue 6]], she reveals that she is [[Wikipedia:Vegan|vegan.]]
*She has been "killed" less than any other Teen Girl Squad character; however, she has been through a lot of emotional, physical, and fictional pain.
*Her mailbox reads "W. Herface". "Her Face" may be her surname.
*In most Teen Girl Squad issues, What's Her Face's name lacks an apostrophe in her intro frame. This doesn't apply to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|issue 10]].
*In Issue 11, [[Cheerleader]] states that What's Her Face suffers from [[Wikipedia:Night terror|night terrors]].

==Title Card Descriptions==
* baggy clothes! ([[TV Time Toons Menu]])
* unpopular! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]])
* pity friend! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 2]])
* whatev! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]])
* shop lifting? ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]])
* same clothes! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]])
* wants a new stepdad ([[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]])
* lice and more! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]])
* college radio! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]])
* 24 hour diner! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9]])
* radacious bodadical razzberry blue ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]])
* rotary phone! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]])
* black roses! ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12]])
* $4.75/hour ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13]])

==Means of Death/Pain==
* PUNTed and killed by a [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Dinosaur|dinosaur]] in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1|Issue 1]]
* Legs broken by [[Thomas]] with a baseball bat in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 2|Issue 2]]; lives through the ordeal
* Attacked by [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Possums|possums]] in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3|Issue 3]]; lives through the ordeal, but her blood hurts
* Crushed by a weight weighing NO pounds in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4|Issue 4]]; lives through the ordeal
* Escapes [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5|Issue 5]] unscathed physically; emotionally hurt when her friends abandon her to go to the beach
* Drowned in a [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Wave o' Babies|wave o' babies]] in the [[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad|Decemberween special]]; lives through the ordeal
* Dropped by [[Mrs. Commanderson]] in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|Teeny Tiny Girl Squad]]; lives through the ordeal to be eaten by the [[Arrow'd Guy]]
* Her "most of her" is eaten by a [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#A Shark|shark]] in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|Issue 8]]
* Bled to death internally after eating "Staple Sauce" in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|Issue 9]]
* LATHE'D by [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#A Mighty Warrior|a mighty warrior]] in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|Issue 10]]
* Killed by a lamp in bonus footage for Issue 10
* Chopped into two pieces by a maniac in a speedo in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11|Issue 11]]
* Escapes [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12|Issue 12]] unscathed physically; emotionally hurt when rejected by two boys
* Killed in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13|Issue 13]] by a bag of snack mix, with a pretzel stick, in [[Tompkins]]'s parlor, referencing the board game [[Wikipedia:Cluedo|Clue]]

==Filmography==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[comic]]
*[[:Category:What's Her Face Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"When you fall in a bottomless pit, you die of starvation."|[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]]|Mirror:whf_botpit.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"And the chumbly wumbly bear came a tumblin down! Did he sell beans? Lord no! Did he sell eggs? Lord no! But he couldn't...so he stapled it down!" ''{entire "Chumbly Wumbly Bear" song}''|[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]]|Mirror:tgs_chumbly.mp3}}
|}
{{Teen Girl Squad}}

[[Category: Teen Girl Squad Characters]]

Talk:Main Page

24.34.71.97 — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:50:03 GMT

24.34.71.97: /**/My Baby Got Stole

{{Main Page Talk}}

== decline in use ==

Has anyone else noticed that the wiki is declining in use? The talk pages on the emails aren't nearly as big as they used to be. Infact, i checked a good sampling of emails and the number of times accessed on the talk pages, and back around the 100-130 range they were 6-7 thousand views, but the last 10 or 15 have been only 2-3 thousand. Please don't try and say that there are 3-5 thousand people viewing the talk pages 6 months or a year after they're out. Any idea whats going on? -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 16:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:Well, it's an interesting question. We did have that baby break this summer, and it's possible we still haven't really gotten back up to the level we held before (It's dot com has suggested this idea to me a few times on IRC). Other than that, we may be just be going through a slow period for other reasons I can't think of. Interestingly, this past email rush has been one of the biggest I can remember, with lots of talk page discussion and even a STUFF frenzy. So, who knows what will happen next. Anyway, there's my thoughts; others may have more ideas. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:39, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::Homestar Runner's popularity has been going downhill ever since the Trogdor-Peasant's Quest pinnacle (2003-2005). HRWiki seems to have peaked in early 2006. I think it's because nothing new has taken the world by storm as much as Trogdor did, so people are slowly losing interest as they move on to different things. Entertainment shows can't hold many people's attention forever. Power Rangers, Rugrats, Spongebob... you know what I mean. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:56, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

==Wiki font==
Why does the Wiki use a different font from that of Wikipedia? [[User:124.180.248.253|124.180.248.253]] 10:24, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
:Because this is not Wikipedia. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 15:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
::Our not being a Wikipedia has nothing to do with it. The font we use, Verdana, was especially designed for computer monitors to be readable at small sizes and is widely considered to be one of the best fonts for online use. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== Singularized pluralizations ==

Soo... that's not a very good title for such a page, and i can't think of a good one, but i think we should have a page on such a thing. examples; "it sold like '''hotcake'''" and "the '74s was the prime of my dating '''year'''" I'm sure there are other times that something usually pluralized is said in singular. Anyone have a good idea for a name? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:40, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

:How about [[Deliberately Poor English]]? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:05, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

::No, it's not actually poor english, it's more that it's commonly said in plural but here they're talking in singular... by the dna evidence, there was only one, and coach z is implying that he only dated in one year. Not poor english, just sad people... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I fail to see how that doesn't qualify as deliberately poor english -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 04:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Actually, I understand DeFender's argument in that the examples he gave are not grammatically incorrect (almost), which is what I'd consider, at first, to constitute poor english (the first setence I think should've read "it sold like ''a'' hotcake" to be 100% grammatically correct -- someone please correct me if i'm wrong). However, poor english can also constitute english that is stylistically bad, like mine, like Strong Bad's. Therefore, I think it is withing the scope of [[Deliberately Poor English]] to list such examples. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::Again, it's a different joke than poor english. It's clearly its own type of running gag. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:32, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I agree with DeFender; it's a particular kind of joke, not merely poor English. I also agree with him that "singularized pluralizations" is not a very good commando name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:45, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Then, again i ask, what WOULD be a good commando name? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Firebert! Ahem.. the question is a difficult one. Unpluralized plurals ? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Before we go to the trouble to think of one, do we have a third example for the running gag? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:50, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== Redesign of Main Page for Welcome Page Project ==
It was suggested by [[User:Trey56|Trey56]] on [[Category_talk:International_welcome_pages]] that a discussion about changing the front page layout is needed, so I figured I get the ball rolling. With the new international welcome pages coming together, they will have to be linked on the front page. To me, the logical place to place the links in a single line between the Main Menu navigation and the Browse/What's New boxes, perhaps with a yellow box around it. I believe [[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] was dummying out some different possible configurations.

My feeling is the multilingual links should be easy to find, especially for those that are interested but not the strongest English skills, but at the same time be aware that the main page is already pretty crowded. Any thoughts about this process? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 00:21, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:This needs to be done at some point or another. We can set up a mock up at someone's userpage, for experimenting with. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 00:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::I decided to try out a few different layouts using [[User:Sysrq868/mainpagebox|Sysrq868's suggestions]]:
::* [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512390 Single line, yellow box]
::* [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512391 Single line, green box ver 1]
::* [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512392 Single line, green box ver 2]
::* [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512393 Larger yellow box, at the bottom]
::* [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512396 Larger yellow box, at the top] The only way I got this version to work is with the extra space between the subtitle box and the Browse/What's New boxes.

::What do you think, sirs? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 00:47, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

:::Nicely done! I think I'm preferring the single line boxes. And what about putting them right at the top? Like so:
:::*[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512405 Single line, at the very top]
:::This way, it doesn't break the flow of the current page. Obviously, we'd have to fix that huge linebreak under the box ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:01, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Now that I see it, I think I like it at the very top better. The main problem I found with the putting the languages navbar under the Main Menu line was the fonts would have to be adjusted, since it overpowered the small caps of Main Menu. (and no, I don't mind if others try out different configurations on my mock up) {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:10, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512413 Fix the line break like this?] {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:12, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Awesomeness. How about making it even shorter? [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512425 like this].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Here are a few of mine, a lot simpler...
:::::* [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&oldid=512417 In with the Featured Article area]
:::::* [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&oldid=512418 Below What's New?]
:::::* [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&oldid=512419 Up with the Main Menu]
::::: {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 01:25, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::: Of those, I think I like the one up with the Main Menu the best. The other layouts tend to get lost in the overall page. Having said that, I kinda like having a box or something to draw the eye quickly to that section. Perhaps using the Small caps format, but having a box around languages? Something [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512464 like this]? Again, the issue is spacing; I couldn't draw the box around just the second line with space between, nor can I eliminate the extra line underneath. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
We want the international links to catch the eye of people who need to see them, but they shouldn't have undue salience over the English-language elements of the page. This is, after all, an English site. Thus we look for the balance. I think the links under the featured article or under the what's new box are too subtle, but I think a big yellow banner at the top is too much. My suggestion is that we should go outside the box and overhaul the main page completely. We've had this overall design for a while, and its probably due for a makeover. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:Woohoo! Maybe we should have that done... {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 03:17, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
::And [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&oldid=512748 here it is]. If we want, we could probably alter it more, in terms of graphics. I was only looking for the layout right now, with a little bit of coloring. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 05:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I like it, although I think it looks a bit... chaotic. The yellow box at the top seems maybe a bit too big. I really like that bar on the right though. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 05:28, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
::::It looks fine on IE, but it's completely broken on Firefox. At this stage, it doesn't make sense to make it work for every browser, of course, but maybe it helps if designers say which browser one should use to watch their suggestions in full glory ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:33, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
::::It looks fine on IE, Safari. I see what you mean about FF, though. I don't know what to do about that, though. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 05:45, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::It's a good start, but it puts way too much emphasis on the top yellow box, and has too much vacant space. The most important thing on the main page is the what's new box (and the what's new picture), so any proposed redesign needs to take that into account. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:17, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

So, I totally missed this one, but I'll say my opinions that I think might matter to whoever will do this Main Page redux. Firstly, I think that if we are going for somekind of a box for the welcome links, it should match with the colors of the welcoming pages: #FC0 border, #FFFFCC background. Secondly, I really do think it should be a box, to sort of seperate it from the other, English content. On no account should a foreign user need to scroll for the international links, and they should not [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&oldid=512419 "sink in"]. In fact, looking at that menu version, it took me about 6 seconds to find the links, I don't know where my eyes should focus. Remember, the international users that stumble across this website '''do not expect''' these links, and thus they should be very visible for people unaware. In short: No scrolling, no sinking, no linking. But that last one's not so widely enforced. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 09:39, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

:I took [[User:Techgeekmbg|Techgeekmbg]]'s suggested layout and made few changes. I like the side bar, but I flipped the What's New and Featured Articles sections. I then shameless stole [[Wikipedia:|Wikipedia's]] front navigation. The result is [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512891 this layout]. Colors and font sizes could be adjusted, but does offer having the languages available immediately without being overpowering. Any ideas? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
:: Further refinement: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512902 debolding languages and giving them a yellow background], per [[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]]'s suggestion. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:35, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't think we need to redesign the whole main page. We should just make one little box that will hardly make the main page look different at all. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 17:38, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
:::: I've taken the code and modified it to make the Featured Article and What's New side by side. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&oldid=512905 here]. For a reason I don't know, the two titles do not line up perfectly. And all of the layouts with that "Features sidebar are all messed up on Firefox. Sigh. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 17:44, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
::::: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&oldid=512917 Here's my new version.] {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 18:09, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::Maybe we could just have something like that subtitle box that's on toon articles. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:50, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::You mean like a sidebar box? That would still require the user to scroll. And I bet no-one would like it to be placed high enough that scrolling wouldn't be necessary. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 22:14, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::I like the latest three column design, Tech, but my main concern would be the order. I dunno, but I think that the "What's New" should be on right edge, and the Features column would work better on the left. Though, I find [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:It%27s_dot_com/Main_Page&oldid=513113 It's Dot Com's latest effort] impressive. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 23:54, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Here are [[User:It's dot com/Main Page|my attempts]] at a different layout. Ignore the fact that there's no color yet. Browse the recent history for some variations. Comments welcome on the talk page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:20, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
:Personally, I like the layout, but if you guys want to change it, change it. For a version that doesn't drastically change anything, here is [[User:Super Martyo Brother/Main Page|my version]]. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 23:41, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
::For a minimal change, I think that's the best one so far, but the front page hasn't had a significant change since [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&direction=prev&oldid=86533 May 2005], so it's overdue for a major refresh. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 23:54, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I've got a variation of mine, with 2 columns, vuewable [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&oldid=513143 here]. It still has some obvious bugs, though. I'm working on them, but if someone could help me, thanks will be given. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 01:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Fixed the error, I was missing a <nowiki></div></nowiki>. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&curid=38715&oldid=513187 link]. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 02:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::TechGeek: I like it a lot. Only critique I have is I'd prefer the languages to slide under the Welcome snippet. But it's your design. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::Of the lot, I prefer Dot Coms clean and orderly approach, and I don't really like any of the others, seeing as they're really, really messy and make us look like a bunch of...well, inexperienced Wiki-ers. If Dot Coms one was more colourful, then I might even like it to be the new main page, but in reality, I prefer just having the first green bar on the current page.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 03:34, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Just remember, colors aren't important right now. I like Dot Com's layout, except for one thing: the title iembedded into the page. I think the title should be alone, so it is emphasized. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 15:23, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Talk Page Archives ==

Could someone teach me how to archive pages like [[Talk:Jibblies 2]], or are sysops the only members allowed to create archives? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
:You do not need to be a sysop. Create a page with a title patterned after existing archives. Copy the content from the talk page to the archive page - do it from the edit mode so you carry all formatting. Then remove that content from the talk page and add a link to the archive, and the archive should link to the talk page too. Be sure you do not move any active discussion to the archive page. I think that's about it, if not someone will add. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:04, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
::But I don't think that Jibblies 2 needs to be archived. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:13, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

:::I think it's okay too — especially since it's such a new toon. Many of the discussions are probably still pertinent. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

== Deleted Article Template vs New Template ==

I think we should create a template for a merged article rather then putting a deleted page template if it's been merged. See [[Talk:The Dapper Swindler]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 22:29, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

:Not a bad idea — I {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template%3Adeletedtalk&diff=515570&oldid=513723 changed}} {{t|deletedtalk}} so that it can serve both purposes — hopefully it'll be more versatile now. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::Should we used a separate category for merged pages versus deleted ones or not? It seems there is a greater number of merges compared to deletions so that set of pages will grow faster. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:22, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

:::Personally, I don't think there's a need to create separate categories. This would be consistent with the consolidation of the {{t|tbd}}, {{t|merge}}, etc. and templates and corresponding categories into {{t|talktobediscussed}} and [[:Category:Articles for Discussion]]. Perhaps the category could be more aptly named, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:41, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

== Everything Else Easter Eggs ==

So we have 1 less section stub to deal with when a wiki member gets Everything Else 3 and confirms which toons have commentaries, could someone give me instructions on how to unlock the Easter Eggs on [[Everything Else, Volume 1]]? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

== Upgrade ==

So, what does this baby do now? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 20:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
:You can find everything by just clicking on that link at the [[#Top|top]] of the page. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 20:58, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

== Holiday Changes ==

Here's my idea: You know for Halloween, we redo the wiki and change the logo and backround. Well, I was thinking for Holidays such as Valentines Day, St. Patrick's Day and Decemberween (Also Christmas), we could the exact same thing with a different theme. What do you think? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 23:30, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
:In the past, we've done this for Christmas/Decemberween, and I'd guess we'll likely do it again. For other holidays, though, it would be overkill. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

== Wiki facts ==

I think we should get rid of any facts that mention something about this wiki (like on [[Fat Bluebird]]). Anyone else think so? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 13:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
:Nope, in the few cases where we mention the wiki, it's only because TBC themselves did. It makes sense to. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
::Well, what about [[Field Day Intro]]? I never thought we needed that fact. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 14:49, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I agree, and removed that. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:00, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

== My Baby Got Stole ==

They just removed the Bear-Holding-a-Shark hoddie! Is that worth mentioning in the "recent updates"?

Talk:Swears

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==Delete?==

<s>This information is only loosely related and really not that important.</s> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:59, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:Well, it has appeared quite a lot. I think it should stay. {{User:LePorello/sig}} 23:00, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::yeah. if it had only 2 or 3 apperances, I'd under stand, but it has 8+ references. That's why I created it. — [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]] 23:04, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::<s>No, it really doesn't have that many appearances, because none of these items are that similar, and a lot of them are just abbreviations and such.</s> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:04, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, most of these are not cusses to most people, many are common everyday speech. AOnly a few, like the Commandoes, are really intentional uses of cussing for humor. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:07, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Everyday speech or not, it's still cussing. And only [[Commandos in the Classroom|CitC]] and [[no loafing]] only mention about cussing, the rest have references to cussing. — [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]] 23:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::I agree with deletion. This just isn't an outstanding topic... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::I don't care for this page. Swears don't bother me, it's just that keeping track of specific words that characters say (''unless'' it's a running gag; which swearing isn't) just doesn't fly with me. I could be contradicting myself, though. Maybe there are some articles that I would like deleted given this reasoning. Or then again, maybe not. Totally don't want a list of characters who use superlatives... or prepositions... —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:58, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I now think it's a worthy topic. TBC have stated that they don't put swearing on the site, ''except'' sometimes they do. This is notable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:02, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

== If we're gonna keep this ==

And now we're gonna censor this? We have a page where we can't even discuss the subject matter? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:06, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:Another point for deletion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:07, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::Agreed. If this page can't exist in an uncensored form on this wiki, then it doesn't belong at all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:08, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::What's weird is that all the cuss words were censored except for "damn." Weird. — [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]] 23:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Roy, it had hope, but I hope you see it's flawed. We can't have a page with the f word and the a word, per our standards. And if they are censored properly it ruins this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Okay, "Maq," so we can't have a and f up there, but it's ruined if it's censored. Hmmmm... God, I don't want my page that I made the first draft of, one of my few major contributions, so I guess we'll just have to...sigh. I don't know. It's just hard to decide. I guess we have no choice to delete it, unless we bend the rules and leave a and f or ruin it and go ahead and censor it. [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]] (In a hurry so no time thingy thing.)
::::::This page ''is'' kind of interesting, but I would only support an uncensored version. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:27, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Com's right. This is data, and if it's on Homestar Runner, we can use it. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:39, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
If we're gonna keep this, it should ''not'' be censored, but it should be limited to material found only on H*R.com (not the interviews (except for the relevant part in the introduction)). I have come to realize that this page has factual merit, given TBC's attitude expressed in the introduction. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:49, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:Dot com, why'd you delete DorianGray's comment? That seems rude. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:51, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::He didn't. He just moved it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::While I question the use of this article, I feel that censoring the profanities aren't needed. However, use of the word f*** was unneeded in the article. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 03:09, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

== Title ==

I'm not entirely sold on the utility of this page, but if we're going to have it could we at least give it a name that doesn't sound so juvenile ("Mom, Billy made a swear!")? My vote is for [[Profanity]]. Concerning the above discussion, I'm against censoring this page. The warning at the top is ample. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 23:56, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:The reason I moved it is because TBC in interviews have consistently used the word "swears" ("But when we get our sketch comedy show, dude, there’s going to be so many swears!"), and even in things like [[cheat talk]]. Plus, it's kinda funny. BTW, I think they only called it "cussing" in [[Commandos in the Classroom]] so they could make the "cuss-mando" joke. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:01, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
I still vote for keeping, uncensoring, and "Profanity". {{User:Salty/sig}} 00:03, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
:While I feel that this should be delorted, if we are going to keep this, I would rather that the title be Profanity instead of Swears. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:20, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
::Meh, "Profanity" sounds so formal and stuffy. "Swears" fits the mood better, methinks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, you don't really hear teens today using Profanity. Actually, it's more of "cursing." We should make the title that. Cursing sounds better than swears and cussing, and ''way'' better than Profanity. — [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]
::::Do you have something against the TBC term? If not, then we should leave the title like it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:35, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Definitely. I'm up for moving it to that. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:21, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
:Well yeah, but profanity sounds more encyclopedic. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:27, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
::But "swears" sounds more H*R. More examples: "Tomkins made a '''swear'''!", "Why I can even '''swear''' a cuss myself! A-hem. Diaper biscuits." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I see your point (and my bad for not noting the TBCism). Taking that into consideration, I'm fine with whatever everybody else decides. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 03:29, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
:I agree. The title of this article is really embarrassing. [[User:Qduk|Qduk]] 16:38, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

::::Couldn't we just begin the article with "'''Profanity''', or '''Swears'''... I think that would be good. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 12:34, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::I think the current introduction (in which Matt says "swears" and is followed up with "swearing") is just fine. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:17, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Okay—I just think that the actual word should come before what TBC calls it. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:18, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

== What about the place? ==

Since words like "Hella, and Helluva" are considered swears, I added the one where old timey Strong Bad says "oh noes i've died and gone to hell".
:Not to be Correction [[Dan]], but it's actually, '''Curses'''! iv'e died and gone to hell!" — [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]
:Actually, it's not really considered a swear if used to refer to the place. I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I agree, used in the right context it shouldn't be considered a swear, except in the case of their using the context as an ''excuse'' to swear. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:37, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Dorian is right. The place is not a swear. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:38, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Guess if we can't use the place, we might not be able to use [[Strong Sad|Strong Sad's]] curse in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]: "...if you get it wrong, you get eternal damnation..." — [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]

== Crap ==

What is that doing on the list? I know crap is almost like "s---" but crap is not a curse word all that much.
:Actually, it is. It's what's known in linguistics as a permissible expletive (or something along those lines). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:44, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

== Possible swearing in flashback ==

:''[[flashback]]- After losing the ten-step footrace, The Homestar Runner responds by saying "WHAAAAT??!!?&,:;%${}". Random symbols usually mean censored swearing.''

Disagree. I know that things like %^#$^@# are used to censor swears, but it's not being used for that in this case.

Random symbols are used to censor words ''in'' the sentence. These symbols have been ''attatched'' to the ??!!?, with no space between them. This suggests that this is an exaggeration often used on the Internet of an overuse of exclamation points. I'm talking about things like !!!!!!!11111, !!!!!111!1!11one!!1, and !!!!!fortyfive!!11!1omgwtfbbq111. Using random characters after a long string of exclamation points and question marks is just a cousin to these.

Secondly, you don't see a hint of Homestar opening his mouth to utter curses in the animation. There's no audio censorship either. Where is the swearing coming from?

This is what I would consider acceptable to say that Homestar was swearing:
*&,:;%${} WHAT??!!?
*WHAT &,:;%${}??!!?
*WHAT??!!?  &,:;%${}!!
*WHAT??!!?  &,:;%${} (even though the final exclamation doesn't end in an exclamation point, I would accept it if there were a space in there.)

What we are considering is none of the above. Again, the random symbols are ''attached'' to the ??!!?. It makes no sense to put censored swears there. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:54, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

:<s>Agree. (Args pending BazookaJoes args.)</s> Switching to neutral for now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:56, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
::I agree, not to disagree. I always took it like that. I mean, I think it should stay. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:31, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
:Agreed... Err, with the disagreement... By which I mean I disagree with the fact. It's obviously a relative of "T3H 1337 Sp33Kx0rz!!~!~@~!!#~!!1!!11@`2!eleventyfive!". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
::Agree with BazookaJoe. Disagree with the fact. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:35, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
:::don't know if my input matters, but i agree with the fact. --{{User:Collin/sig}} 01:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

== Yearbook signing- rhts ==

In the [[Yearbook Character Page]] on the autograph signing part, strong bad says RHTS meaning "raise hell this summer" and since lmao is mentioned, does anyone else think this may have a place on the page?--{{User:Collin/sig}} 02:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

It could be raise ''heck'' this Summer.

== To do ==

Organize the list in chronological order and by toon category (SBEmails separate from toons and games). {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:50, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== sbemail: the bird ==

how about the sbemail "the bird" its all about giving the finger... which isnt really SAYING a swear. but it definatly is considered profanity and gets blurred out on TV. and it would go against TBC thing of keeping the site clean.
[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 20:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
:Sounds good. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
::Hmmm, I'm not sure on this one. It's a bit of a gray area. The email itself is about giving the finger, but Strong Bad never specifically mentions "the middle finger," so he's not giving kids any instruction on how to "give somebody the finger," and none of the characters in said email actually did it properly: Strong Bad can't do it because of his boxing gloves (even if he says he can), Homestar can't do it properly given his lack of (or at least invisible) hands, and Pom Pom only has one "finger" (his entire hand)... there's really no objectionable content in the email at all, save for the reference to "the finger" or "the bird," and I don't think, taken alone, such a reference constitutes anything objectionable. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 04:01, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

== Pervert? ==

Is this considered a swear? Or is it just a rude thing to say? It was said by The Baby Lady in Peasan't Quest if you ask her about Naked Ned. ''[[User:Maggot Man|Maggot Man]] ''([[User talk:Maggot Man|talk]]) 19:20, 3 June 2006 (UTC)''
:Yeah, pervert's not really a swear... Just an insult, I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Well, it's a bad word kind of like Prick. --{{User:the thing/sig}} 19:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
:::I would disagree with you, The thing. It's a word with a cache, but not a "bad" word in the same category as your other example, which in some contexts is a "bad" word, as it names an unmentionable piece of anatomy. "Pervert" merely describes a person with socially unacceptable sexual principles and behaviors. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
::::They say it on Naruto a whole buncha times.

== autobiography ==

*I've noticed that there isn't a mention of [[autobiography]] on this page. Strong Bad doesn't actually say a swear word on the "Words I Probably Said" tape, but it is implied, as Strong Bad does have to fast-forward. Is it worth adding that to this page? [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 09:26, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

:Are you refering to the "the Deke accidentally shoved me to the ground and called me a—" part? If so, I don't think we could really guess what he called him. He might as well said "a crap for brains" which is already covered under [[Crap]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:57, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

== Do we really have to mention "butt"? ==

I hardly consider "butt" a swearword. I mean, 5-year-olds say "butt." I think we're only supporting the ridiculous existance of the [[Wikipedia:Euphemism_treadmill#The_.22euphemism_treadmill.22|euphemism treadmill]] here by mentioning a relatively non-offensive word in an article about swearwords. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 03:55, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
:Where do we say "butt"? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Under See Also:. ''In addition to the above, the words "crap" and "butt" both appear frequently.'' ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 04:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Ah... Personally, I don't see a need to mention either of those, but I'm okay with keeping "crap" on there, as it has a (pretty massive) page. "Butt", on the other hand, is so minor a word it doesn't even need to be mentioned. You'd have to be some kinda freak to be offended by "butt". (No offense to anyone who is. You're still weird, though.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Dorian, thanks ''so'' much for calling my grandmother a freak. My grandmother happens to be a very nice old lady. (This is a joke, I'm not really ticked off. ;-) ) But just so you know, I've observed that it is a bit of a generation thing: the older people are more likely to be offended by "butt" (and likewise with "crap" and "freaking"). That's my two cents. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 09:15, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Not to mention that "butt" can be used in many different ways (the original meaning was "end"):
:::::*End/edge butt (something I learned in Tech Ed.)
:::::*Cigarrette butt
:::::*Rifle butt
:::::*Etc.
:::::Anyways, we shouldn't mention "butt". ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 12:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::Even though it is considered a bona fide swear at my aunt and uncle's house, I don't think it belongs on this page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:20, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Heh. My grandparents have no problem with "butt." In fact, I've heard my grandmother use said word on many occasions. I honestly can't see how anyone would consider "butt" a swearword. It's just a synonym for "rear end," after all. And of course, you have things like [[Wikipedia:Butt joint|butt joints]], etc. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 01:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

== "Sucks"? ==

I'm not sure what others' thoughts are on this, but I generally consider "sucks" a vulgar word; I'm not offended by it, but I was surprised by its presence in a couple places on the site, probably on roughly the same level as "hella." Should it also be mentioned? {{unsigned|LuigiHann|20:40, 19 July 2006 (UTC)}}
:I wouldn't consider it vulgar enough to be listed here or considered a swear. {{User:Salty/sig}} 20:51, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
::Interestingly, the phrase used to be considered ''extremely'' vulgar, but over the years it has progressed on the [[Wikipedia:Dysphemism#The "dysphemism treadmill"|dysphemism treadmill]] to the point that it is acceptable even in mainstream contexts. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

==alternate universe==

Shouldn't we add the part where Strong bad says "flippin' off rainbows" from sbemail 150? (it's in the song) {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 02:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

:Where's the swear? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

::If [[the bird]] is in this list, [[alternate universe]] should be too. Or they can both be removed; it's fine with me. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I suppose it falls into the "implied" category. Sigh... (you can guess I'm not fond of it, but it is acceptable for the page). {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::::So... want me to add it?
:::::Couldn't it also (and more realistically, based on the context of the song) be interpreted as actually flipping, as in turning in midair? {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 20:29, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

== Do you think it's better without Swearing except for Crap? ==

I do, because i sick of cartoons that ''aren't'' cartoons, if you get my meaning?
Well? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 02:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

:I don't think I get your meaning. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 07:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

well, what i'm trying to say is that cartoons are meant to be enjoyable for any age, not to filled with swearing,gore, etc. That's what i think.
[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 23:02, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
:Well, I agree that a large part of the charm of H*R is that it's funny without resorting to typical devices other animated entertainments rely on for shock laughs, such as potty language and excessive violent imagery. That said, I don't necessarily feel that a cartoon (for example, South park) which does employ potty language and extreme violence in its humor is less good, just different. In other words, I see it less as an issue of quality an an issue of broadest audience. So it's not "better", but it's quite an accomplishment that the 12 year olds and the old geezers like me alike can enjoy this and not be subjected to imagery or dialogue which might be seen as inappropriate. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:07, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
::I think it's better because it's much easier to be "funny" with swearing. The fact that H*R can be at times, hillarious without vulgarity... to the extent of swearing or cursing... proves that TBC are very intelligent.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
:::But that logic would suggest that Trey Parker and Matt Stone are not as intelligent, when in fact it's pretty clear from their work they're geniuses (as are TBC). They use a different set of rules and tools than TBC, so it's different, but does it necessarily mean TBC are more intelligent than TP+MS? It's like comparing apples and chainsaws, their approaches differ too vastly to effectively compare. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:12, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I prefer this way of doing things, the without swearing way, because all it does is enable people of younger ages to enjoy the content. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:20, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
This talk page is about the upkeep of the wiki article. May I recommend our companion [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum] for discussion of the subject itself. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:27, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
:While you are of course correct, I can also see an argument for exploring the utility of swears in animation as essential to the understanding of why both this page and its contents exist. Are the swears and swear-like items we document here to be seen as a deviation from the standards we've come to expect from TBC? Are they intentional references to the tradition in modern animation of employing naughty words for comic effect? Are they not references at all, but ''instances'' of the use of naughty words for comic effect? Yes, a generic discussion of whether SP or H*R is better because of the extent of the use of swearing is Forum fodder, but other points are, IMO, germane to the upkeep of this page. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
::I feel like I oughtn't, but since Qermaq opened the discussion loophole again briefly, I'll jump in. I hesitate at the first question there, Qermaq, which hints at the perennial has-H*R-jumped-the-shark questions that come up often and are almost always unanswerable and unnecessary. One interesting thing you hint at, though, is that the significance of this page is not the way they ''don't'' swear, but the way they represent, replace, or suggest swears. Which suggests questions of the history of doing so in other cartoon genres, like [[old comics|comic strips]]. Which gets back to Nik's starting supposition: although technically what defines a cartoon is that it's animated instead of filmed, you identify an assumption that they're intended for, or at least suitable [[for kids|for, kids]]. (And the previous two links could be taken as H*R weighing in with meta-commentary on its own role in these dynamics.) Which of course leads to the question of ''why'' we connect cartoons with kids—what about their origins, political cartoons, etc.—by which point it's ''definitely'' ready for the forum. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

==Space Program==

In [[space program]], Strong Bad says "we spent all our money on this ''kick awesome'' logo". This could be a reference to kick ass, but, it's another one of those that might not really be nessicary to include. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 00:50, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:Sounds like a stretch to me. And besides, I've never heard "kick ass" used as an adjective. {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 20:33, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
::I have heard it used, and i think it IS a ref. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:35, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, I think it's not. And both of us would need more agreements before anything was placed in the article. And I have somehow managed to live my whole life and never hear someone use is as an adjective. I mean the usage, "Man, I kick ass at tennis!" is common, but I've never heard anything like, "Man, my tennis abilities are kick ass!" {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 20:59, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
::::''[http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=kick+ass Kick-ass]'', used as an adjective, is [[Google:"a+kick-ass"|extremely common]]. I'm pretty sure that ''kick-awesome'' is indeed an allusion to ''kick-ass''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think it's clearly a take-off of "kick-ass", but only in the sense that phrases like "gosh darn it!", "flipping", and the like are taken from harsher words — they're mild derivatives chosen purposefully to be more socially acceptable. I don't think we need to note every instance of these types of words, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

==Fo' Shizzle?==

<blockquote>...Another one reads, "SB is the shizzle", which in this context means "Strong Bad is the shit".</blockquote>

I think that one's being read a bit too much into. We can't be sure of his context, he may have just thought "shizzle" is a funny word, and didn't realize it is sometimes attributed to profanity. In fact, Wikipedia gives the meaning of shizzle as "...rap slang word for 'sure'", which is also the general meaning that I have understood in the past. Though the context of "Strong Bad is the sure" admittedly does not make sense, it seems to me that this comment is simply an abstract comment of "Strong Bad is the shizzle" without the "meaning" of shizzle being obviously clear, if there in fact is one. In short, I think we're reading much too much into a word that doesn't have a specific meaning. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
:See [http://izzle.urbanup.com/625718 izzle.urbanup.com/625718]. "Fo' shizzle" means "for sure", but any other use of "shizzle" means "shit". In this case "SB is the shizzle" makes sense, as calling someone "the shit" is an (admittedly weird) way of saying that they're good or cool. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:59, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
::I understand where you're coming from, but my problem with it is other quotes such as "[[Parsnips A Plenty#Easter Eggs|Curses! I've gone to Hell! How unfortunate!]]". In this context, that would mean "Curses! I've been damned! How unfortunate!". However since they didn't choose to use the swear word, it doesn't constitute a swear word any more than "freaking" or "dang". {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I disagree. I think they meant it. Even if they didn't, though, it's still notable that that's what it ''can'' mean. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

== TBC/Others Swearing? ==

Should this article cover TBC and other people connected to H*R swearing? TBC swore in a couple of interviews, and the end of [[Ballad of the Sneak#Commentary Transcript|the BOTS commentary]] is vulgar. Suggestions? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
:I personally don't think so. This article is about swearing and references to swearing on H*R.com. It's really not notable that they swear in real life, as (given their humor) they don't seem like the kind of people who wouldn't. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:25, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, but we should include swears in commentaries. Those are still part of the H*R universe, even though they are somewhat removed.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:55, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Part of the H*R body of work, perhaps, but not part of the H*R universe. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
::::You're right. They sometimes cross over though, when one of the characters suddenly joins in ;-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:35, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
:Is "pissed off" a swear? I don't think so. It might be less than Grandma-and-Grandpa's-house etiquette, but that's not what defines a swear. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
::It's listed as vulgar slang in most dictionaries. I don't know whether that actually answers your question. I would tend to think that it ''is'' a mild swear, given that it is censored on TV (more so in the past) and has a permissable form ("ticked off"). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
:::According to m-w.com, a swearword is vulgar or profane. Vulgarity is essentially lower-class speech (which is relative to your class); profanity is language that insults one's belief of what's right and wrong in the world (which is relative to your beliefs). BTW, "pissed off" is condidered "sometimes vulgar" by m-w. Of course, dictionaries merely chronicle usage, and as such should not be seen as prescriptive, so multiple sources should be consulted. It remains that "pissed off"'s swear-ness may or may not have a concensus among lexicographers. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
::::"Pissed off" comes from the root "piss", which is unacceptable in any circumstance (at least for me). ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 03:02, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

== [[trevor the vampire]] ==

Alright. I hate to challange one of the most-used examples of profanity on H*R.com, but why do you guys automatically assume that Strong Bad was going to say "what the f**k"? He could have just as well said "what the freak", which would be covered under [[Freakin']]. Peoples? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 18:21, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
:I posed the same question long ago, either in talk someplace or in a edit summary. The response I got was that "freak" didn't make any sense. Wish I could find that conversation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:27, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
::<s>Wikipedia's entry on "[[Wikipedia:WTF|WTF]]" says that "freak" is just as likely. Hmmm... ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 18:31, 28 August 2006 (UTC)</s>
:::Wait... nevermind. But it is still just as likely. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 18:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Nothing else makes as much sense as F*** (unless, maybe, it's some odd-spelling variant, like what my friends use. Fark, fawk, fook, and so forth). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::In ''your'' opinion. Look at how many times Strong Bad has used the word "[[Freakin'|freakin']]". Does the situation here merit that he would say "f**k"? ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 18:46, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::Mu, first off, of course it's his opinion, this is a talk page. Second, while he has said "freak" a lot, he has never said it after "What the". What the crap, just plain what the, but never "What the freak". So "freak"'s suddenly no likelier than any other f word, after all. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

== KF'nC ==

I personally think that the KF'nC basket should be listed here, but I wanted to get other people's opinions first.

I think it's quite likely that the "f'n" stands for f***in'. After all, if it was KFreakinC or KFrigginC, TBC would most likely just call it KFreakinC... {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 18:16, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

:Doesn't F stands for "fried"? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:24, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
::Maybe the F does stand for freakin', but KFreakinC doesn't look as good as KF'nC. To me it's too speculative. And yes F does stand for Fried. [[Wikipedia:KFC|Kentucky Fried Chicken]]. -{{User:Jeppo/sig}} 21:22, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

My first thought was K,F, and C, although that should be KF'n'C.
- Unregistered

== British swears ==

Do we really need to censor the british word for male genetalia? In my experience it tends to be used at a similar (possibly slightly higher) level of profanity than crap, and is also mentioned in the article for [[sb email 22]] -- [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 15:42, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
:Which word are you talking about, and where is it being censored? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::He's talking about bullocks. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:41, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::Ok, censor was probably the wrong word, but the question still stands, dont really want to change this without at least some agreement to attempt to avoid any offence [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 22:00, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
:::It's not really censored anyway. All people have to do is hover their mouse over 'English slang term' and see 'Wikipedia:Bollocks' magically appear underneath their mouse pointer. I'm British, yet I'm not offended by the word. I've heard much worse. There's a warning on the top of the article anyway so I can't see why it should be 'censored'. -{{User:Jeppo/sig}} 22:09, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

== "Screw All Y'all!" ==

Should we include that? because "Screw" is slang for "f**k" - [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]
:Actually, both are slang for "copulate". But I don't think "screw" in this context rises to "swear" level. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:15, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
::I agree — it's too mild, and I think that "screw you" is used by plenty of people who aren't consciously substituting it for something else. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:22, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
:::yes, it just means mess them up. if Nintendo are allowed to give Samus a screw attack, this should be acceptable.

==Ass==
I understand many people think that Ass is a terrible word, but over here in the UK, it's hardly a swear at all. It's in the same boat as hell. Does this still count? --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 17:54, 7 October 2006
:As the Brothers Chaps aren't in the UK, yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Well, "ass" is hardly a swear on the level of many others on this side of the pond, either. "Asshole" is a pretty offensive word, though. "Smartass" and "horse's ass" - not so much swears as mild insults, but they do contain "ass", and as such are crude to many. Thing is, what's a swear to me might not be a swear to another person, it's a bit relative. Anyway, to address one point you made, if there's a difference between UK and US reasoning in any given case here, we normally default to the US thinking as H*R's a US-based website. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:04, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:::And yet, "Bugger" merits a PG rating in the UK, but it's G material here. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 03:00, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

== Think I found two more ==

In the email [[different town]], Strong Sad says "Calm down, spaz!". Doesn't this shorten to "spastic", which is sometimes considered politically incorrect?

Also, in [[Shopping for Danger]], Gunhaver says "screw with the weather!", which is a variant of f**k. Am I right? (I'm probably not, but meh) -[[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 20:15, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:I have never heard of anyone finding "spaz" insulting, and "screw with the weather" just means "mess the weather up weird". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:"Spastic" might be insulting, but is not a swear. And "screw" is a more acceptable term than the one you allude to, so it's not a "variation" at even swearness. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:21, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:'''Edit Conflict'd:''' "Spaz" is indeed short for "spastic" [http://m-w.com/dictionary/spaz], but I don't think it's a swear. An indirect insult of disabled people probably, but not a swear.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:23, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Gunhaver could still have said "f**k with the weather", though, couldn't he? I mean, if H*R.com was M-rated. It would mean the same thing. -[[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 18:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
:Both would mean "mess the weather up weird", yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Homestar Talker on Second games Menu ==

On the Second Games Menu, the description for Homestar Talker is: "Homestar says the darndest things. You want to make him swear, don't you? Shame on you! Call your mother!" or something like that, but it mentions swearing. --[[User:Young Roy|Y. Roy]] 15:39, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
:I went ahead and added it. Next time, feel free to go ahead and edit the article yourself. (If you're concerned about getting the formatting right, just do your best and someone will help you fix it.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:03, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

== I Swear That This Is Not What The Article Is About ==

I always assumed that the swears listed on the article are meant to be curses, not oaths. This would mean that "honest to God" should not be listed here.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:27, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
:I concur. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:33, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
::I agree as well. Sure, an oath is ONE definition of a Swear. But this article is about the curses used (or almost used) on H*R, profanity, not oath's. Perhaps this article would better be suited as "Curses" instead as it's title? --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 22:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
:::"Swears" is more the TBC term, though. See also [[Talk:Swears#Title]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::What you call it is merely personal preference since it can mean more than one thing. But obviously what it DOES mean for this page is profanity type usage. Therefore, it doesn't change the fact that "honest to God" seems inapropriate for this page. So the page can remain as Swears, but maybe a disclaimer for what definition of it at the top of the page? Makes sense to me. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 23:41, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
:::I agree. "Honest to God" is not a swear the page's sense of the word. I'm removing it. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:46, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
::::I agree with this thread. Since the phrase in question was literally a swear, I felt it deserved a hearing on the talk page before being removed. There does not need to be an additional disclaimer; this talk page does the job fine. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::I think there DOES need to be a disclaimer. Why? Because it would shoot down something immediately if it didn't meet the criteria the page is looking for. Let's say somebody else comes to the page wanting to put something on there that meets the definition of Swear, but the wrong one. Another oath or something similar. Now, MAYBE they'll see this on the talk page. Or MAYBE we'll have to go through another discussion on the talk page. OR! We could have this nice little message that tells you that this page is for Swears that meet this definition: etc. So they know right away that it's geared towards profanity. But what do I know? I'm just making total sense here. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 01:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Nah. Consensus was reached here. If such oaths are posted, we can remove and point to this talk. No need to clutter the page, and everything's easily removable with adequate explanation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Exactly when was Consensus reached? When one person shot down the idea? Sure you count as two but I don't see how a single line (which is what the disclaimer would be) constitutes as "cluttering the page." I don't mean to make a big deal out of it, but I think it makes perfect sense.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
:::The consensus reached that I was describing was that oaths need not appear on this article, not that a disclaimer is or is not necessary. My post was using the clear consensus on this talk that oaths don't belong here as an argument against needing a disclaimer, as we can simply refer to this consensus when reverting any oaths added. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
::Ok, I understand what your saying now. I didn't before because of the finality in your statement. "Nah, Consensus was reached... end of discussion," is how I took it. I mean, the only arguement I made above yours was about the disclaimer. However, I still think it would save valuable time in some respects if that consensus was just right there in a single line on the page. I mean, then people already know. Or we can wait until they just post something that is an oath and say "That doesn't go there because it doesn't meet the right criteria --- read this" and post a link to this discussion, or however you decide to do it. I mean, if the disclaimer was there they'd already know. And if they did it anyway, just say "read disclaimer." I mean that IS what the page is about right? Profanity type swears. Gesturing included (such as giving the finger). --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:37, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== The reason I tried moving this to "Vulgarism" ==

Why I did that is because I've never heard of such thing as a non-verbal swear, if the finger counts as one. --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 01:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
:Hmmm, good point. Maybe [[Vulgarisms]] would be a good choice.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:18, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
::This has already been [[#Title|discussed before]]. We have called it Swears because it's kinda funny and because it's a term TBC use themselves. Incidentally, if you really wanted to be a strict grammarian, "swear" is a verb but not a noun. Good thing we don't all the times have to be; I am all up ons leaving this article right where it is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:07, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

==A Strong Profanity?==

Whats the "Strong Profanity" or whatever, that it talks about in the green box? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:28, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
:Look under Peasant's Quest. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:47, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

== Just a comment on the warning ==

I think we need to switch back to the more official, less Homestar related warning. Yes, it's more boring, and yes, we ARE the Homestar Runner Wiki and it makes sense to have Homestar Runner themed templates, but this one seems more like an appearance or a joke than an official warning. Therefore, we'll probably get people (read: kids) reading it who aren't supposed to/don't want to. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 21:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
:I concur. I was looking for the warning at first until I read the green thing. At the very least the template should be red and not a friendly green. In any case it is easy to miss the "seriousness" of the notice. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:51, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
::Agree. The current warning is lukewarm at best, we need it fire-hot. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:57, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
:::C'mon. The warning is perfectly fine. There is ''no one'' who visits our wiki who, when finding this page, is not gonna read it, no matter what kind of warning is there. The entries on this page are extremely tame by most standards, except for that one, and even that one's presence in a movie would not earn an R rating. No one is coming out of the woodwork to complain that they weren't adequately warned or were offended by the content. In fact, all you have to do is read the introduction to the page or the first couple of entries to understand what it's all about. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:42, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
::::The goal here, however, is not to be reactive but to be proactive. You know what kind of world we live in. The warning should be less "entertaining" and more "warning", in my opinion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:49, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::How about putting a big red border around it? That would draw more attention to it as a warning. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:03, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, but I think it would be too much of an eyesore (lime green and red don't mix). I think everything should just be a light reddish kind of color. Like, uh...

{| style="background:#de8787; border: 2px solid #f00"
|-
!
|-
|Something like this. (background is #de8787, border is #f00)
|}

Thoughts? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 18:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

:The MAJOR problem: When I first saw that green box, I wasn't really aware it was a warning until I had read it properly. It's not effective. Yes, it's funny but that's not the point; it's supposed to warn the reader of the strong language. I propose we cut the wishy-washy and change to a more direct and straightforward warning. You could use one of those exclamation marks, like the one at the top of this page. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 18:13, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Imagine for a moment that the article had no warning at all at the top. Would that really be a problem? The article title, interview snippet, introduction, and first couple of examples should be enough to clue someone in on what they're in for. The article itself is treated encyclopedically; it's not like it's a long interview or toon with sudden strong language—the whole thing is a list of swearing within H*R. A cursory warning is all that is needed at most, and one adapted from Cheat Commandos is in the spirit of a wiki about Homestar Runner. In other words, there is no problem here, and we don't need to fix something that's not broken out of some vague sense that someone, somewhere will someday be offended because they don't read the whole page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:23, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
:I don't know about you, but when I was a kid, I used to think "swears" just meant "Do you swear you'd do blah blah blah?" "I swear!". Now, a lot of visitors/users here are kids. And, even if a kid DID know it was about cursing, they still might have not stopped with that green joke warning. For example, they might be used to the swears the use on homestarrunner.com, which are just things like crap or the occasional freakin'. They also use acronyms and other ways to hide the words. But WE explain WHAT the words are. On Homestar, it's "shizzle". Here, it's "shit" (yes, I'm saying it but it's for the sake of discussion). Plus, we even say:

<blockquote>Peasant's Quest — Typing "What the fuck" yields the response, "Come now. Don't get discouraged."</blockquote>

:Not homestarrunner.com, US. And, I know it sounds crazy, I'd also be a little worried about liability (crazy parents and the like). It's better we include a serious, easily-seen warning with content that may make people uncomfortable than a green box that looks more like an appearance of swearing than a warning. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 20:38, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

:Re "Imagine for a moment that the article had no warning at all at the top. Would that really be a problem?": Yes, I really think it would. Seems we disagree on that point, which is fine, but I really don't personally want to assume that since no one has complained so far that it will never happen. Some parent of a 12-year-old kid sees this page with either no warning or a poorly-identifiable one, and we have the potential for an uproar, affecting not just the wiki, but TBC as well. They enjoy a reputation for being kid-safe, and it's just that sort of overblown drama that one parent starts that'll tear down that house of cards. Having worked in public schools and having talked to hundreds of parents, I assure you they are out there.
:Now, will a warning ever prevent a kid from reading the content? Of course not, but the point is we can say "hey, we had a clear and unmistakeable warning on the page". We tried to keep a person from being shocked to see naughty language on this otherwise squeaky-clean wiki. It's my view that the current "warning" does not try to do anything but be funny, literally making light of the concerns many parents have with the content they want their child to be able to avoid.
:Dot com, one thing I know we agree on is we as editors have a responsibility toward stewardship of this wiki and the creators of the work we document. We need to make our decisions based, first and primarily, on what's right for TBC and HRWiki. In light of that, I'm a little perplexed you don't see the importance in this. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:09, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
::Bluebry: "Fuck" does not do anything in Peasant's Quest, but "what the fuck" does. TBC made a conscious decision to include that phrase as part of the game (another indicator that H*R is not a kids' site). If they didn't want us to note it (knowing that we note ''everything''), they shouldn't include it.
::Qermaq: On the contrary, I see great importance in those things. I simply think it would be very difficult not to realize what this page is actually about. I'm not actually proposing that we remove the warning, simply that there's nothing wrong with keeping a sense of humor. In the interest of making the warning more recognizable as a warning, I propose the following [[TSoND]] compromise version (some wording borrowed from a version by Qermaq):
<div style="background:#06bfad; width: 42em; margin:auto; padding: 1.5em 3em;"><div style="background:#06bfad; border: 1px solid black; background:none; padding:0;"><div style="border: 2px solid white; border-bottom-color: #999; border-right-color: #999; background: #CCC; color: black; text-align: center; line-height: 125%; margin: 0; padding: 0 12px; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-weight: normal">
[[Image:NO symbol red w-gray.png|60px|NO]]Oh, Child![[Image:warning symbol yellow w-gray.png|60px|Warning!]] 
This article is about '''swearing.''' It contains '''bad words''' that will get your mouth washed out, cost you friends, and probably get you suspended.

Please, if you are not mature enough to handle an adult discussion of some very naughty language, '''[[Special:Random|read no further]]'''.
</div></div></div>
::It has the advantage of being unambiguous with big, unmistakeable warning symbols, while still retaining the H*R flair. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:11, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Maybe if you made it red. Anyway, I've proposed an alternative as well, as you're aware, in the Sandbox. Maybe that could be redder too. Green means go. I don't want us to say "go" here.
:::Regarding the sense of humor - and this is coming from '''me''' - this is a time to dispense of it. Mostly. We need to be serious and say thiat this article contains language a lot of people would not only be offended by, but more importantly, would be surprised to encounter in this wiki. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
::::I think the Teal Screen of Near Death should be teal because otherwise it wouldn't be teal. The NO and warning symbols can speak for themselves. If someone doesn't read that, then they only have themselves to blame. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:31, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::Do we HAVE to go for the in-joke here? Ok, if you make "bad words" red, I will go for it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::That's fine. And no, we don't ''have'' to; that's what makes us interesting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:12, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I like it. I think the new sign is a very reasonable compromise. It's both funny and much more functional than what we have now. As a matter of fact, the big red no, the exclamation point and the red "bad words" are adequate enough to garner the proper level of attention to it. Too bad we can't have blinking stuff (like "bad words") in the sign that would work on all browsers. Anywho. On a different matter, would a "censorship policy page" (say [[HRWiki:Censoring]]) be appropriate/useful? I can move this to [[HRW:DB|Da Basement]] if need be. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:40, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Yeh, I like it. It's much more noticeable. And less... lime green. And I think we should have a more detailed censoring policy. As Dot com said, TBC were technically using the words "what the fuck" in Peasant's Quest. And technically, that means it's used on the site. And under the policy we have now, we're not allowed to use words not used on homestarrunner.com. However, the phrase would TECHNICALLY be allowed because it's used on homestarrunner.com. Now, this might sound very stupid, but, TBC have also used plenty of other swears. Therefore, I think we need a more detailed censoring policy. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 22:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Given that we've gotten this far without such a policy, and given that we don't currently have any concerns regarding toons or the like in front of us, I see no need to create a policy just because we don't have anything else to do right now. No one is seriously suggesting that because TBC made that phrase be part of the game, then we should suddenly allow it outside of this page. I think we should just continue to use good common sense as we have to this point. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:48, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::I'd like to mention to those that think TBC's use of the phrase "what the fuck" in the game would imply that they are "condoning" cuss words in their toons (and via our rule of thumb perhaps in our wiki) is an incorrect assumption. TBC have always been careful in what language they explicitly include in their toons. However their inclusion of the phrase ''WTF'' is a very subtly hidden one, one I don't believe is meant to be found by any means (even though we've had evidence of the contrary in other toons). There are only three ways to find this "egg": 1. type it yourself 2. read it on the wiki (once you get past the censorship warnings) or 3. decompile the program and examine the code in detail. All but the third one (maybe even that one) imply a mature audience that knows what they're typing or trying to type. This is in no way some hidden concession allowing cuss words explicitly in their work. I just wanted to get that out of my chest. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:00, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== CANNOT be validated ==
I discovered that, on the page, the following code is present in the green alert box:
<blockquote> <nowiki>
<div style="margin: 0 auto; background:#0C0; color:#FFF; padding:1em; width:500px; border:none; font-weight:bold; text-align:center; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR 

CERTAIN AUDIENCES
 BY SOME PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT'S BEST
 
IT BE RATED

</nowiki></blockquote>
Now, if you can sort through this, anyone with knowledge of HTML can see that something is wrong: a block level tag, , is inside another block level tag, <div>. This is not something I can simply overwrite; WikiMedia's code automatically installs a paragraph element. I have discovered no way to remove it. If it is truly irremovable, the only valid solution is to make an image of the warning label and upload it. If, however, someone else knows how to rectify this, please do so. I'd appreciate it greatly.{{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 01:02, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:Well, I got it to validate, though the code is certainly sloppy. However, I don't know how else to fix it, so it'll have to do.{{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 01:27, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
::<nowiki></nowiki> within <nowiki><div></nowiki> should not be a problem, that's done all the time. Let me look at it. UPDATE - well, now that it validates there's nothing to see. But the nested paragraph was not the issue, I'm sure. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:13, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

== Freakin ==

Seeing as how "freakin" is widely used on the website, TBC must not consider it swearing any worse than [[crap]]. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 23:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, I agree. It's listed in one place as an example of Homestar's "foul mouth", but I believe TBC were being their good ol' tongue-in-cheek selves when they labeled that part of the particular toon. (That is, it's listed on the page because they're talking about his foul mouth, not for the words that he actually says.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:15, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, I agree. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

== Thing in a bag ==

Bubs and homestar say "friggin' awesome" in lookin' at a thing in a bag

== Is "frig" a swear? ==

I was looking over this page, and I found the following two entries:
<blockquote>
*In '''[[Strong Sad's Lament]]''' one of his emotions is "the frig?", as in "what the frig?".
*Email '''[[hygiene]]''' — Gene's refrigerator's brand name is "Fridgin' A" - a euphemism of the phrase "Frigging A".
</blockquote>
I don't think either one should be on this page, since "frig" is hardly a swear. Yes, it's a very mild substitute for "fuck", but if we note mild euphemisms like this, why shouldn't we note every appearance of or reference to "darn", etc.? It's just not notable, in my opinion. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:09, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, I agree. If 'darn' isn't listed, neither should 'frig' (or any variant thereof) be. {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 20:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

== Hell ==

Erm... I never considered "Hell" to be a swear... but it clearly states, "Bubs makes a helluva snowcone." Um... [[user:haldo]]

Babies

24.34.71.97 — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:48:06 GMT

24.34.71.97: Senor Cardgage

{{tbd}}
Babies seem to be a common accurence in the homestar runner universe.

==Aperences==
*Email:[[highschool]]- [[Strong Bad]] describes the citizens of free contry USA as melon headed babies in their middle school years

*The [[Blue Laser Babies]]

*Email: [[for kids]]- Strong Bad thinks that the email's sender ment "the littlest, tiniest babies" when he said "kids"

*[[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]- Strong Bad says "Oh, look at the babies! Eating their marshmallows!" when he sees Homestar and Pom Pom

*[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]- A "Wave 0' babies" aproches [[What's her face]]

*[[Senorial Day]]- [[Senor Cardgage]] offers hot dogs "for your...babies."

*Email: [[bottom 10]]- The Fluffy Puff Nibblin's commercial states that their product is "perfect for newborn-type babies"

*[[Peasant's Quest]]- [[The Baby Lady]]

*[[More Fan Costumes]]- Some of the fan's kids are dressed as, as Strong Bad puts it, "Homestar Babies"

*Email: [[Myths and Legends]]- The ancaint fence drawings show "Ruined crops, stonlen babies and family Bike Rides. Or family pie-sitting contests."

*Email: [[pop-up]]- One of the fetures of the Strong Bad pop up book is "wing aling babies"

*Email: [[4 branches]]- In the polly mascot foamalade commercial, [[The Homestar Runner]] says to "feed it to the babies"

Email: [[animal]]- When Strong Bad is introducing the lappy, he mentions "babies havin' babies"

Babies

24.34.71.97 — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:46:52 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* Aperences */

{{tbd}}
Babies seem to be a common accurence in the homestar runner universe.

==Aperences==
*Email:[[highschool]]- [[Strong Bad]] describes the citizens of free contry USA as melon headed babies in their middle school years

*The [[Blue Laser Babies]]

*Email: [[for kids]]- Strong Bad thinks that the email's sender ment "the littlest, tiniest babies" when he said "kids"

*[[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]- Strong Bad says "Oh, look at the babies! Eating their marshmallows!" when he sees Homestar and Pom Pom

*[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]- A "Wave 0' babies" aproches [[What's her face]]

*[[Senorial Day]]- [[Senor Cardgadge]] offers hot dogs "for your...babies."

*Email: [[bottom 10]]- The Fluffy Puff Nibblin's commercial states that their product is "perfect for newborn-type babies"

*[[Peasant's Quest]]- [[The Baby Lady]]

*[[More Fan Costumes]]- Some of the fan's kids are dressed as, as Strong Bad puts it, "Homestar Babies"

*Email: [[Myths and Legends]]- The ancaint fence drawings show "Ruined crops, stonlen babies and family Bike Rides. Or family pie-sitting contests."

*Email: [[pop-up]]- One of the fetures of the Strong Bad pop up book is "wing aling babies"

*Email: [[4 branches]]- In the polly mascot foamalade commercial, [[The Homestar Runner]] says to "feed it to the babies"

Email: [[animal]]- When Strong Bad is introducing the lappy, he mentions "babies havin' babies"

Babies

24.34.71.97 — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:46:17 GMT

24.34.71.97: Yay! my first non-spoon article! Why did no one write this before?

Babies seem to be a common accurence in the homestar runner universe.

==Aperences==
*Email:[[highschool]]- [[Strong Bad]] describes the citizens of free contry USA as melon headed babies in their middle school years

*The [[Blue Laser Babies]]

*Email: [[for kids]]- Strong Bad thinks that the email's sender ment "the littlest, tiniest babies" when he said "kids"

*[[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]- Strong Bad says "Oh, look at the babies! Eating their marshmallows!" when he sees Homestar and Pom Pom

*[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad]]- A "Wave 0' babies" aproches [[What's her face]]

*[[Senorial Day]]- [[Senor Cardgadge]] offers hot dogs "for your...babies."

*Email: [[bottom 10]]- The Fluffy Puff Nibblin's commercial states that their product is "perfect for newborn-type babies"

*[[Peasant's Quest]]- [[The Baby Lady]]

*[[More Fan Costumes]]- Some of the fan's kids are dressed as, as Strong Bad puts it, "Homestar Babies"

*Email: [[Myths and Legends]]- The ancaint fence drawings show "Ruined crops, stonlen babies and family Bike Rides. Or family pie-sitting contests."

*Email: [[pop-up]]- One of the fetures of the Strong Bad pop up book is "wing aling babies"

*Email: [[4 branches]]- In the polly mascot foamalade commercial, [[The Homestar Runner]] says to "feed it to the babies"

Email: [[animal]]- When Strong Bad is introducing [[the lappy]], he mentions "babies havin' babies"

Talk:The Dapper Swindler

24.34.71.97 — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:52:02 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* What The CRAP?! */

{{tbd}}
I think we should include text that is also in the thumbnail as Wikis are primarily a text-based medium. It also allows for text-only browsers and "readers" for the blind. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:34, 11 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I agree. I've added the text back.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:30, 11 Feb 2005 (MST)

== no ==

this belongs on [[The Sneak]]--{{User:Benol/sig}} 20:57, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

It only appers once, i might add. 14:58, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[[user:haldo]]
:Please note that this conversation was about two years ago. Obviously, for better or worse, we've decided to keep it separate. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

== yes ==

this belongs on its own page. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:09, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

== Old Timey manifestation of [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]]? ==
As I was reading this page, I was reminded of the poor rendering of Strong Bad as Biscuit Dough Hands Man. Could this be another accidental equivalent?

Well, if The Dapper Swindler was a dubious rendering of Old-Timey Strong Bad, I'd say yes. But since it isn't... [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 21:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, but do we KNOW that Buscuit Dough Hands Man *IS* Strong Bad? --[[User:Jrgilby|Jrgilby]] 01:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

== What The CRAP?! ==

Why do we still have this article? It's SOOOOOO pointless. can somebody PLEASE give a REASON to stand up for this article if they want to keep it? {{unsigned|Haldo|19:50}}
:Put {{tl|tbd}} on the top of the page and we'll discuss it. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 00:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

oh. that sucked. I'm having troble putting up the template.... [[user:haldo]]
:Done. And all characters, no matter how many appearances they have, merit page. '''Keep'''. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 13:48, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
::It is debatable, however, whether The Dapper Swindler can be considered a separate character. It's really just a bad sketch of The Sneak. I say '''merge''' with [[The Sneak]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 15:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

YESS! He is not his own character, but a drawing of the sneak, kind of like how it was hinted that [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]] is strong bad, but it's not a deffinant answer. Back on topic, I say merge. [[user:haldo]]

If we do end up deleeting this page, we should have a notice on [[the sneak]]'s page requesting that no one brings it back. [[user:haldo]]
:If the information is moved to The Sneak's page, we don't need to leave a note to tell that it's been moved from a deleted article. Oh, and '''merge'''. — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 19:40, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, let's merge. Info here is a bit too scarce, and we should be able to include it at [[The Sneak]]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:43, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Good idea. Both this article and The Sneak's page looks a bit bare. So '''merge'''. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:57, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I will throw in with a '''merge''' vote as well. The Dapper Swindler is a marginal "character", and though it is similar to Biscuit Dough Hands Man, it's a one off so far. Merging with The Sneak makes the most sense. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 20:04, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok, teh request that no one brings up the dappr swindler is unessicary, but we should still have a re direct to [[the sneak]]'s page.

Talk:The Dapper Swindler

24.34.71.97 — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:17:09 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* What The CRAP?! */

Talk:The Dapper Swindler

24.34.71.97 — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:16:11 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* What The CRAP?! */

Talk:The Dapper Swindler

24.34.71.97 — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:14:16 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* What The CRAP?! */

Talk:Gunk Iller

24.34.71.97 — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:34:24 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* Only one apperence! */

==Gunk-Iller or Gunk Iller?==
I'm sorry, but I don't see a hyphen in "Gunk Iller". Move? [[User:141.133.145.118|141.133.145.118]] 02:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:I've gone ahead and been bold and done this. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

==Only one apperence!==
does Gunk Iller realy have the privalge of having his own artile? Isn't there some kind of rule that says that something has to appear three times for that honer? Sorry for being a whistle blower, whoever wrote this. [[User:haldo]][[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 22:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:The "three appearances" rule applies only to running gags, not items or characters or stuff like that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
::After all, [[Oliver Smidgen]] and [[Reynold's Brother]] have fewer than three appearances, and have their own pages.

OH... but I still think that this is kind of a pointless page. C'mon, he never even ''said'' anything! [[user:haldo]]

Talk:Jibblies 2 Teaser

24.34.71.97 — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:39:12 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* Alien costume */

{{talk|12710}}

== Channel ID ==

This toon's channel ID is JBZ. Any ideas why? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:17, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
:Probably won't know until the toon is released. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:18, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
::I know JBz is a candy made by Jelly Belly. Figured there might be a connection because of halloween. [[User:74.173.153.110|74.173.153.110]] 01:12, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

== Toon title ==

I know that Ween Toon 2007 comes from the toons menu, but I don't think that's it. I think that's just a placeholder for the real toon we get next week, and I think this toon should be moved back to something with the word Teaser in it, like Ween Toon 2007 Teaser or something. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:33, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
:Second. Some people may think that it's the actual Halloween toon. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:44, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
::Then we could stick "teaser" next to the link that is on the main page to avoid confusion. I don't know what they're going to do with the WT2007 entry on the toons menu once the main toon comes out, but I can say with some confidence that the toon will not be given this name. They never call a toon "Ween Toon 200X". As far as I see it, Ween Toon 2007 is the most official name we have for this thing. Anything else would just be... unofficial. I think of it as ''referring'' to the 2007 Halloween toon, not being a placeholder for it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:58, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I disagree. I think the entire entry is a teaser. It's not just the title; everything else is a placeholder, too, from the running time (6:66) to the description ("Who knows what this toon is about?!"). Depending on how all the dust settles next week and whether TBC keep this toon linked, I think it should eventually be called "''(Real Name of Halloween Toon)'' Teaser". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:06, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Please, 6:66 is a reference to the devil, not the toon's running time. Nah, just kidding, i think it's a placeholder. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:09, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think you're on to something there, DeFender. Even if you are just kidding. 6:66 just to be funny. I could see that. Or, maybe it is a placeholder and they orchestrated a toon with a running time of 6:66 (also, just to be funny). Either way. That would be nice. Over six minutes of any kind of toon would be great. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 23:14, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I agree that 6:66 is an intentional joke; I'm just saying they made a joke at all because they needed a placeholder. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:52, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
::::I can live with that if the dust settles that way, but as far as what we call it in the meantime... meh. This I guess? Why not? We can fix the confusion issue by putting "teaser" on T:whatsnew. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:16, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
How about '''Halloween 2007 Teaser'''?--{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 02:20, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
:We should leave it be until the actual toon comes out. If there's a naming conflict then we could this one to Ween Toon 2007 Teaser or something. {{User:Punching_Kittens/sig}}05:14, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
::Has anyone actually watched the toon till 6:66? It may have something at the end... or it could just be a satanic referance. Also, I agree with Darkangel. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 05:32, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
:::6:66 isn't a real time, and the toon doesn't last that long. The frame count is too low. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 07:33, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

==Alien costume==
That can't possibly be Strong Bad there, can it? [[User:207.62.231.2|207.62.231.2]] 16:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I can identify most main characters in the pic, and He's the only one who I can't see, perhaps he is.- StrongstarRunner

See how the one on your far left is taller than the Coach and has a huge head? maybe it's Strong Bad wearing... something funny.... that is tall and the guy in the alian costume is coach z! [[user:haldo]]

strongbad email.exe Disc Four

24.34.71.97 — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:05:42 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* Bonus Menu Transcript */

{{wrongtitle|title=strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

[[Image:DVD strongbad email.exe Disc 4.JPG|thumb|This Time, It's Not Dangeresque 1]]
This is for Disc Four of [[strongbad_email.exe]], released on July 25, 2005, separately from the first three discs (around 8½ months after their release). This disc contains e-mails #101-130. To see artwork for Disc Four, see [[strongbad_email.exe DVD Artwork]].

==FBI Warning==
The FBI Warning for Disc Four.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Homestar Runner]]

=== Transcript ===
''{The standard FBI warning text appears on a background with constantly shifting colors.}''

'''TEXT:''' Federal law provides severe civil and criminal penalties for the unauthorized reproduction, distribution or exhibition of copyrighted motion pictures, video tapes or video discs. Criminal copyright infringement is investigated by the FBI and may constitute a felony with maximum penalty of up to five years in prison and/or a $250,000 fine.

''{Homestar walks up to the text, and then looks around quickly.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh! Look at me! I'm on TVD! ''{walks off}''

== Introduction ==
[[Image:strongbad emailexedisc4 mainmenu.PNG|thumb|right|From the doorway, comes a man. A man who forgot to turn on the lightswitch.]]
Introduction for Disc Four.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Lappy 486#Female Lappy 486|Female Lappy 486]]

=== Transcript ===
''{Open to a shot of the shotgunned wall with a flashing wire and a spiderweb on the toppled [[Floppy Disk Container]].}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{from offscreen}'' It is a time of desolation, chaos, and DVDs. Then one day, from offscreen, ''{trumpets are heard as the camera pans to Strong Bad's silhouette}'' comes a man. ''{He walks forward and turns the light on.}'' A man with a severely beige box. ''I MEAN LAPTOP COMPUTER!!'' ''{He tosses the Lappy onto his desk.}'' Hit me with the dong-ding, Lappy! ''{The Lappy plays its startup noise.}'' The Paper, come down have breakfast with the family!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down with the menu options. After some time has passed, the camera zooms in on the Lappy and female Lappy's icon appears and speaks.}''

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' Strong Bad, why do they take wait, so long? Many times have prooty passed.

'''STRONG BAD:''' I don't know what the crap you're saying, Lappy, but I'd follow you anywhere.

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' I'm of a style.

== Contents ==

=== Emails ===
*101. [[Car]] ''(Mike and Matt commentary)''
*102. [[Lunch Special]] ''(Mike, Matt, Jonathan Howe, and Ryan Sterritt commentary)''
*103. [[Haircut]] ''(Matt, Ryan Sterritt, and Jonathan Howe commentary)''
*104. [[Theme Park]] ''(Mike and Matt commentary)''
*105. [[Replacement]] ''(Mike and Matt commentary)''
*106. [[Dangeresque 3]] ''(Mike and Matt commentary)''
*107. [[cheatday|Cheat Day]] ''(Mike and Marzipan commentary)''
*108. [[pom pom|Pom Pom]] ''(Mike, Matt, Jonathan Howe, and Ryan Sterritt commentary)''
*109. [[Crying]] ''(Mike and Matt commentary)''
*110. [[For Kids]] ''(Mike and Matt commentary with Ryan Sterritt on guitar)''
*111. [[Other Days]] ''(Mike and Matt commentary)''
*112. [[Old Comics]] ''(Mike, Homestar, and Strong Bad commentary) (Mike and Matt commentary)''
*113. [[Pizzaz]] ''(Mike and Matt commentary)''
*114. [[The Facts]] ''(Mike, Matt, and Marzipan commentary)''
*115. [[Time Capsule]] ''(Mike, Homestar, and Marzipan commentary)''
*116. [[Extra Plug]] ''(Mike, Jonathan Howe, and Ryan Sterritt commentary)''
*117. [[Montage]] ''(Mike, Matt, and Marzipan commentary)''
*118. [[Virus]] ''(Mike, Matt, and Homestar Runner commentary)''
*119. [[Animal]] ''(Mike and Matt commentary)''
*120. [[Radio]] ''(Mike, Matt, Strong Sad, and Mike's Strong Sad commentary)''
*121. [[Part-Time Job]] ''(Mike and Coach Z commentary)''
*122. [[Dreamail]] ''(Mike and Matt commentary)''
*123. [[Origins]] ''(Mike, Homestar, Jonathan Howe, and Ryan Sterritt commentary)''
*124. [[Secret Recipes]] ''(Mike, Strong Bad, Jonathan Howe, and Ryan Sterritt commentary)''
*125. [[Rock Opera]] ''(Mike and Strong Bad commentary)''
*126. [[Best Thing]] ''(Mike and Strong Bad commentary)''
*127. [[Long Pants]] ''(Mike, Matt, and Ryan Sterritt commentary) (Homestar Runner, Marzipan, and Shark-Tooth Bubs commentary)''
*128. [[Rampage]] ''(Mike, Matt, Jonathan Howe, and Ryan Sterritt commentary)''
*129. [[Garage Sale]] ''(Mike, Matt, Jonathan Howe, and Ryan Sterritt commentary)''
*130. [[Do Over]] ''(Mike and Matt commentary)''

=== Bonus Stuff ===

* Bonus Email: [[Family Resemblence]]
* [[Sample of Style Too]]
* A puppet-style video for [[It's Like It Was Meant to Be]]
* A [[Powered by The Cheat]] video for [[Grumblecakes (video)|Grumblecakes]]
* A karaoke video for [[Because, It's Midnite (karaoke)|Because, It's Midnite]]
* A karaoke video for [[Rock Opera (karaoke)|Rock Opera]]

==== Bonus Menu Transcript ====
[[Image:bonusstuffmenu.png|thumb|Did you just say bonus stuff?]]

''{Again in 3D, the camera flies through the Rec Room past Strong Mad on the couch and The Cheat in the crisper drawer, both watching TV, on its way to the Trogdor arcade machine.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' Did you just say bonus stuff?

''{After a 30 second pause, the camera pulls back to reveal Strong Bad has walked up to the machine.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, choosey, time's up, I'm playing Trogdor. ''{He plays.}'' Oh yeah, don't stop a-squishing. ''{Trogdor dies.}'' Aw, man! ''{It's over screen shows up}'' What? What's wrong with this stupid game? ''{He pounds the machine.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*Four extra shorts can be found via hidden Strong Bad icons on the Bonus menu:
** [[Real-Live E-Mails]]
** [[Sample of Style Too: Some Outtakes]]
** [[Puppets on the Road]]
** [[Puppets & Little Girl Outtakes]]

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*Homestar's line 'I'm on TVD!' is a [[portmanteau]] of TV and DVD.

===Trivia===
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#kid speedy|kid speedy]]".
*The Lappy 486 appears to be much thinner than it does in the animated emails.

===Inside References===
*The introduction is largely taken from [[animal]].
*The Female Lappy 486 is from [[dreamail]].
*The Cheat in the [[crisper drawer]] is a reference to "[[privileges]]."
*Strong Mad saying "Did you just say Bonus Stuff?" is a reference to "[[caffeine]]."

==External Links==
*[[HRStore:stbademdvd.html|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four at the Homestar Runner store]]

{{SBDVD}}

The House That Gave Sucky Treats

24.34.71.97 — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:46:19 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* Fast Forward */

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|halloween2001|A Mother's Day Message|Some Stupid Turkey}}
[[Image:halloween2001.png|thumb|"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for some candy today!"]]

All the characters come to ''your'' house to trick-or-treat! You get to pick one of three treats to give them in an interactive game.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Knight}}, {{Film|The Hornblower}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Homsar}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}

See '''[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats Costumes]]''' for more information on what everyone was wearing.

'''Places:''' [[The Halloween House]], [[Spooky Woods]]

'''Date: ''' Saturday, October 27, 2001

'''Running Time:''' 4:00 (site approximation)

'''Page Title:''' Trick, then treat, then smell feet.

{{dvd|Everything Else, Volume 2}}

== Transcript ==
''{spooky music plays}''

A Homestar Runner Cartoon

"The House That Gave Sucky Treats"

Voices by Matt Chapman & Missy Palmer

Written, Directed and Animated by Los Brothers Chaps

''{Homestar's head pops up slowly, then lightning flashes and thunder cracks}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Oh, hello. This year, we're going to do things a little differently. ''{scary voice, eyes slanted menacingly}'' We're all coming to your house to trick or treeeeat! ''{normal face and voice}'' So just answer the door, pick a treat, and drag it on top of us. We'll do the rest. ''{Pause}'' Okay, bye!

=== Coach Z ===
''{Knocks in a rhythm.}''

====Intro====
:''{rapping}'' Doot-doo-doot-doo, an' I'll drink up all the Hennessy ya got on your shelf, but first let me introduce myself. My name is Coach Z. Pronounced with an "oach Z."

====Jujyfruits====
:Ooh, Jorjyfruits! Oh, I mean Jerjyfrorts. I mean, ''{straining}'' GEORGIE FRORGIE! ''{pause}'' George Foreman?

====Boston Baked Beans====
:Ya know, I once knew a fellow in Boston 'could tell ya the time of the day at any time of the day. Ya'd say, "Say there Boston, what's the time of day?" And he'd say, "10:30." And you'd look at him and say, "But Boston, it's half past noon!" And he'd look back at ya and say, "Well, those are the breaks."

====Cherry Clan====
:Da Cherry Clan. Are they related to the Wu-Tang Clan? 'Cause ya know, their first album was the ''BAERMB''! In fact, you don't have a copy of "The 36 Chambers" in there, do ya? 'Cause I'd love to listen to it right now! Ya mind if I come in?

=== The King Of Town ===
''{Rings the doorbell instead of knocking.}''

====Intro====
:Trick or treat, I'm horrible! ''{Strong Bad pokes his head out from the right of the screen and says, "You got that right."}''

====Butterscotch====
:Ooh, butterscotch! Would you mind melting those down and pouring them over a ham? ''{pulls out a [[ham]]}''

====Fun size Butterfinger====
:That's it?! Well, if you think that I'll accept this paltry treat just because it has "butter" in the name... well, you'd be right! Give it here!

====Stick of Butter====
:Ooh, a stick of butter! ''{noisily scarfs the stick of butter} {still with butter in his mouth}'' Trick or treat. Again? Please??

=== Strong Mad and The Cheat ===
''{Bangs on door, creating yellow bursts.}''

====Intro====
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''
:'''STRONG MAD:''' IS YOUR REFRIGERATOR PERRY RUNNING?

====Rock Candy====
:'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{staring at it, puzzled.}'' HALLOWEEN!

====Pop Rocks====
:''{The Cheat eats the Pop Rocks}''
:'''STRONG MAD:''' NO. NO! NOOO!!
:''{The Cheat takes a drink of cola}''
:'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{squealing The Cheat noises, head explodes}''

====Rocks====
:''{Strong Mad eats the rocks, then bites off half of a can of cola. The Cheat's head inexplicably explodes.}''

=== Marzipan ===
''{Also rings the doorbell.}''

====Intro====
:''{singing}'' Hey, ho! Let's go! Hey, ho! Trick or treat!

====Candy Corn====
:''Candy'' corn?? Do you have any real corn? Or Indian corn?

====Rice Cakes====
:Hey, rice cakes! I like to eat them without water.

====Steak====
:Is this a joke? It's not funny. ''{Strong Bad drops three more steaks into her bag with a grin on his face}''

=== The Poopsmith and Pom Pom ===
''{Knocks rapidly and softly.}''

{''They don't have an intro, as neither can really speak.''}

====Mary Jane====
:''{They look at each other, then The Poopsmith holds up a sign that says "Give us something good instead". Pom Pom laughs.}''

====Chick-O-Stick====
:''{The Poopsmith dunks it in a bucket labeled "dippin stuff", which looks suspiciously like [[whatsit]]. He offers it to Pom Pom, who shakes his head "no".}''

====Astropop====
:''{The Poopsmith shoots his gun at Pom Pom so it reflects off Pom Pom's "I ♥ Flint" button and his microphone and hits himself in the chest sensor. He falls off the side of the steps.}''

====Pumpkin====
:''{The "secret" music from the [[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda series|Zelda]] video game series plays. The pumpkin is firmly lodged in The Poopsmith's mouth. When the door closes, a pixelated caption reads "YOU UNLOCKED A SECRET CHARACTER!"}''

=== Homsar ===
''{Knocks "[[Wikipedia:Shave and a Haircut|Shave and a Haircut]]".}''

''{This is an Easter egg, only accessible if you give The Poopsmith or Pom Pom the pumpkin.}''

====Intro====
:I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for some candy today!

====Shavin' Creem====
:YaAaAaAh, I'm the original ladies' man!

====Black and Orange Taffy====
:''(singing)'' If you give me a treat, make sure that it's sweet, and I'll eeeat iiiiiit...

====Wrench====
:Oh no, I think this is my favorite!

=== Strong Bad ===
''{Instead of knocking or ringing, Strong Bad yells, "Open the freakin' door!"}''

====Intro====
:Where in the world is my candy?

====Fun Size Butterfinger====
:Oh, a "fun size" candy bar? Tell me this: what's fun about eating less candy? Maybe if you gave me an entire bag of them it would be fun. The only fun I'm going to have with this thing is smearing it all over your door when I leave. ''{If you choose this, the door is smeared with the Butterfinger when Strong Sad shows up.}''

====Marshmallow Bunny====
:Why you lazy crap for crap! All you've got is old freakin' Easter candy? This thing's rock hard, man! Well, you just made it onto my "People I gotta egg today" list. ''{He shows you the list:}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none;border:2px solid black;background:#FFFF99;color:#000;width:25%">
People to egg 
(in no particular order) 
 
ronnie pudding 
 
king of town 
 
kewpie dan 
 
homestar 
 
you lazy crap for crap
</blockquote>

====Apple====
:What is ''this'' crap?!? What are you, a dentist? Or a hippie? Or some kind of ''hippie dentist''?

=== Strong Sad ===
''{Knocks softly.}''

====Intro====
:Trick or treat, I guess.

====Necco candy wafers====
:Oh, Necco Wafers. These remind me of when I used to eat the colored chalk when I was in school. I was sick for a year and nearly died...

====Baking Chocolate====
:''{a bit surprised and bounces slightly}'' Oh! Baking Chocolate! I used to eat this stuff when there was no chocolate in the house. And now, it's my only friend.

====Campbell's Soup====
:Oh. While I do appreciate the relevance of this, given my costume, I was kind of hoping for something that I wouldn't have to prepare. You know, like Necco Wafers or baking chocolate...

=== Bubs ===
''{Knocks "[[New Boots|Hip Hop Dance]]"}''

====Intro====
:''{singing}'' Please, baby please, baby baby baby ''please''! Gimme some candy!

====Mallo Cup====
:''{singing}'' I got a shallow gup and a crallow nup, somebody give me dat Mallow Cup.

====Dum-Dums====
:Oh! ''{singing}'' I'm such a big dum-diddy-dum-diddy-diddy-diddy-dum-dum...ie.

====Bazooka Gum====
:I never understand the comics that come in this bubble gum. I mean, the first frame is some guy saying,''{he unfolds the comic and shows it to you}'' "Look out, the sky is falling!" And the second frame is some guy getting hit on the head with a rock ''{he unfolds the comic and shows it to you again. The second frame is captioned "Fortune: The rock hit the guy in the sweater"}''. And I'm sitting there going, "What the heck just happened?", and before I know it, I swallowed my bubble gum!

=== Homestar Runner ===
''{Homestar continually knocks until you answer.}''

====Intro====
:''{singing}'' Believe it or not, I'm walkin' around, I never thought I could trick or tre-e-eat...

====Smarties====
:All right, Smarties! Marzipan said to eat lots of these this year. I'm not really sure why she said that though. ''{Crickets chirp, record scratches when Homestar breaks the silence.}'' Umm... trick or treat!

====Circus Peanuts====
:''{Dances and "doots" ''[[Wikipedia:Entrance of the Gladiators|Entrance of the Gladiators]]'' (known to most as a circus theme). You close the door, but Homestar rings the doorbell, and when you answer, he is still dancing and singing.}''

====Handful of Change====
:''{sounding slightly disappointed}'' Oh... a handful of change. I guess I can use this to go, um, buy some candy. So... thank you for adding a step to my Halloween process.

== Later that Night... ==

"'''Vote for your favorite costume!!'''" is written at the top. Everybody is standing around in his or her costume. Run your cursor over each to see a caption (shown here in parentheses after the character's name). If you click on one to vote for, an email is started to ween@homestarrunner.com, with a different subject line and text for each character:

*The Poopsmith (Lazer Tag):
**Subject: Teddy Poopspin
**Text: I Choose YOU, Poopachu

*The King of Town (Hagar The Horrible):
**Subject: King of Town, Now Sit Down
**Text: I Choose YOU, Kingachu

*Strong Mad (The Fridge):
**Subject: Strong Madden Football 99
**Text: I Choose YOU, Strong Madchu

*Coach Z (Humpty Hump):
**Subject: 1 2 3 Coach Z
**Text: I Choose YOU, Coach Zchu

*Pom Pom (Michael Moore):
**Subject: Pom Pom for Prez
**Text: I Choose YOU, Pom Pomchu

*Bubs (Mars Blackman):
**Subject: Bubs has got it goin ON
**Text: I Choose YOU, Bubsachu

*Strong Bad (Carmen San Diego):
**Subject: Why do you keep dressing up as girls
**Text: I Choose YOU, Strong Badchu

*The Cheat (Punchy):
**Subject: How bout a nice Hawaiian Cheat
**Text: I Choose YOU, Cheatachu

*Homestar Runner (The Greatest American Hero):
**Subject: Homestar Riggidy Riggidy Runner
**Text: I Choose YOU, Homestarchu

*Homsar (Wimpy):
**Subject: Homsar Salad Sandwich
**Text: I Choose YOU, Homsarchu

*Marzipan (Joey Ramone):
**Subject: Marzipan is a Laugh Riot Grrl
**Text: I Choose YOU, Marzychu

*Strong Sad (Andy Warhol):
**Subject: A vote for Strong Sad is a vote for America
**Text: I Choose YOU, Strong Sadchu

=== The Discussion ===

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey Strong Bad, I really like your costume. The Spanish Inquisition? That's great.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look, for the last time, I'm not The Spanish Inquisition, I'm not Cab Calloway, and I'm not Strong Bad wearing a yellow turtleneck! I'm Carmen freakin' Sandiego!!

'''MARZIPAN:''' I like Cab Calloway.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, Poopsmith, that's the worst costume I ever saw. I mean, you're ''Lazer Tag''? What, are you supposed to be dressed up as the product or is it more abstract than that, like you're supposed to be the concept of Lazer Tag? Come on man, you know you just found that old crap in a trunk in your basement.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ease off, Strong Bad! He's not the one that dressed up as a ''girl'' two years in a row.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh ho ho ho, you asked for it, King.

''{Strong Mad punches The King of Town}''

'''BUBS:''' Did any of you guys go to that house that was givin' out change? I changed my costume and went back ten times. I made 35 dollars!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Did you guys go to that house where they let you into this big room and there's all these people wearing black hoods and they ask you these questions about life and existence and if you answer them wrong you get eternal damnation, but if you answer them right you get a Twizzler?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um... no.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No.

'''COACH Z:''' Nope.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' No.

'''BUBS:''' Nope.

'''THE CHEAT:''' Meh.

'''STRONG MAD:''' NO.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh. Never mind.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I like your costume, Strong Sad, but you weren't invited this year.

'''COACH Z:''' Say, Pom Pom, check out this funky bass groove! A doo'rear, a doo'ri, a doo'rear, a doo'ri! ''{Grooves around a little}''

''{Pause}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Have they voted yet? I really have to pee.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, and the Poopsmith's not smelling any rosier, either.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, oh! I've got an idea! Let's totally freak 'em out. ''Let's repeat the stuff that we just saaaaid!''

''{loops back to the start of the discussion}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*When Strong Bad's egging list is up, click on "[[kewpie dan]]" to see.. something. (Note: although this egg appears to be glitched, it was intended to open [[HR:kewpiedan.html|this page]] in a new window.)
*When Pom Pom and the Poopsmith knock at your door, move the pumpkin that's sitting on your porch onto them to unlock Homsar. Homsar will only appear in the final scene if you unlock him, though he doesn't say anything.
*In the final scene when all of the characters are talking, you can roll over the skull, pumpkin and moon to see funny captions.
**Skull: Get offa me!
**Pumpkin: No costume. Just a pumpkin.
**Moon: Just pick a freakin' character already!

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*The length of this toon was originally listed as "?:??" on the Toons page, and now as 4 minutes.
**This is because you could sit there for hours on end doing ''no'' commands, and the length would be longer than 240 seconds.
*Marzipan's costume has a small hole in it and you can see her pink flesh beneath, giving further evidence to the theory that her body is actually skirt-shaped.
*Originally Coach Z's intro rap was: "Doot-doo-doot-doo, and I think I'll make ya fall right down on your face, but first let me introduce myself. My name is Hoodsey. Pronounced with an 'oodsey.'"
*This is the first instance of [[The Cheat's Head Exploding]].
*The Bazooka Joe comic you see when you give Bubs Bazooka Joe Bubble Gum originally came from an idea The Brothers Chaps thought up for a possible weekly feature. It was never released until they showed it at the [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|March 1st, 2005 NYU Talk]].
*This is the first toon to feature all the [[Characters#Main_characters|main characters]].

===Remarks===
[[Image:weirdedoutthecheat.PNG|thumb|Weirded out.]]
*Giving The Cheat and Strong Mad [[Wikipedia:Pop Rocks|pop rocks]] shows you a rare glimpse of The Cheat's mouth open without his teeth being visible.
*Bubs's comment about the house that was giving out change is interesting; he went back ten times (making a total of 11 trips) and made $35, implying that the inhabitant was giving out a surprisingly generous $3.18 per trick-or-treater, on average.
*The only candy that shows up twice is the Fun Size [[Wikipedia:Butterfinger|Butterfinger]].
*Clicking "Back" takes you to [[Main Page 7]], the Halloween Main Page.
*Strong Bad is seen during the King of Town's segment as well as in Marzipan's reaction to steak, but he is not in costume in either one.
*[[The Brothers Chaps]] didn't use the current style of animation on Strong Bad (his shadowed eyes), even though they used it in an earlier toon, [[A Mother's Day Message]].
*When The King of Town appears, Strong Bad has the new diamond but older eyes, and when he comes to the door, he is in his older style.

===Goofs===
*In the final scene where all of the characters are talking, Strong Bad's caption is misspelled: it should read "[[Wikipedia:Carmen Sandiego|Carmen Sandiego]]," not "Carmen San Diego."
**Bubs's caption is also misspelled as "Mars Blackman" instead of "Mars Blackmon."
*When Homestar says, "We're coming to your house to twick or treat!", the bottom outline on his cap moves.
*When Strong Bad smears the Butterfinger bar on the door and Strong Sad shows up, the melted chocolate on the door disappears when the choices of candy show up.

===Glitches===
*The light switch can be moved up and down, but it doesn't do anything. You can flip the switch even while the door is opened, and if you leave the light switch down, it will automatically go back up when the next person knocks.
*When viewed in [[Wikipedia:Mozilla Firefox|Firefox]], there are weird sounds related to the door opening and closing. They are always at the same place.
*After Strong Bad says, "Open the freakin' door!" we can hear the sound of the door opening.
*After Bubs says, "Gimme some candy!", the outline under his mouth vanishes, and the shading of his 'MARS' chain also changes.
*When Homestar is introducing the toon, the line between his head and hat and his eyes seem to move very slightly up and down.

===Inside References===
*The following are all references from the previous year's Halloween toon, [[Homestarloween Party]]:
**The music that plays when Homestar rises up at the start is the same one used when it was time for "Scary Flashlight Ghost Storytelling With a Flashlight".
**The skull and pumpkin are the same ones which served as the "play" button.
**Stuffing the pumpkin into the Poopsmith's mouth is a reference to when he was seen bobbing for pumpkins and holding them in his mouth.
**Marzipan noting at the end that "I like your costume, Strong Sad, but you weren't invited this year" refers to the fact that he had been uninvited by Marzipan the previous year.
**The King of Town's comment on Strong Bad dressing up as a girl for two years in a row refers to the previous Halloween toon where Strong Bad dressed up as [[Wikipedia:Carmen Miranda|Carmen Miranda]].
*Bubs's line when you give him the [[Wikipedia:Dum Dum Pop|Dum-Dum Pop]] is a reference to [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].
*Strong Mad attempted almost the same prank greeting as in this toon on [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0]].
*Coach Z's rap is a reference to [[alcohol]].

===Real-World References===
*Coach Z raps a couple lines from [[Wikipedia:Digital Underground|Digital Underground's]] biggest hit song, "The Humpty Dance," substituting his own name for Humpty Hump's. The drink he mentions, [[Wikipedia:Hennessy|Hennessy]], is a brand of cognac, or brandy. Another line is used at the voting screen when Coach Z tells Pom Pom to "check out this bass groove right here."
*The joke involving The Cheat consuming Pop Rocks and soda is a reference to [http://www.snopes.com/horrors/freakish/poprocks.htm an urban legend] that states that Mikey, the [[Wikipedia:Life (cereal)|Life cereal]] mascot, died when consuming Pop Rocks and soda caused his stomach to explode.
*When you drag the pumpkin onto Pom Pom and the Poopsmith, the music that is played is from the [[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda series|''Legend of Zelda'' games]], usually when you unlock something (like blowing up a wall with a bomb, thus creating a door). The particular sound music they use in the toon is from "[[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]]", as you can hear the dungeon music after the sound plays.
*Ronnie Pudding, the first name on Strong Bad's list of houses to egg, is the name of [[Wikipedia:Spinal Tap|Spinal Tap's]] first bassist.
*Strong Bad greets you with "Where in the world is my candy?", a reference to the computer game and TV show "[[Wikipedia:List of Carmen Sandiego products#Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?|Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?]]" from which his costume comes.
*Strong Sad's comment on receiving the [[Wikipedia:Campbell Soup Company|Campbell's soup]] is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Andy Warhol|Andy Warhol's]] (whom Strong Sad is dressed as) series of paintings ''Campbell's Soup''.
*"Please baby, please baby, baby baby please" is a reference to Mars Blackmon's (whom Bubs is dressed up as) exact same line in [[imdb:tt0091939|She's Gotta Have It]].
*The skull's line at the end when you hold the mouse pointer over it ("Get offa me") is a quote from Murray, the Demonic Talking Skull from the [[Wikipedia:Monkey Island|''Monkey Island'']] games.
*Homsar's greeting is a play on [[Wikipedia:J. Wellington Wimpy|Wimpy's]] famous line "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today."
*Marzipan's intro is "Hey, ho! Let's go!" from [[Wikipedia:The_Ramones|The Ramones']] 1976 hit, "Blitzkrieg Bop". This was also a reference/tribute to Joey's death earlier in 2001.
*Homestar's greeting is sung to the tune of (and is a play on) the theme song to the TV show [[Wikipedia:The Greatest American Hero|The Greatest American Hero]].
*[[Wikipedia:Cab Calloway|Cab Calloway]] was a famous jazz bandleader and singer whose career spanned many years.
*Homestar saying Strong Bad's costume is the "[[Wikipedia:Spanish Inquisition|Spanish Inquisition]]" is a reference to a [[Wikipedia:Monty Python|Monty Python]] [[Wikipedia:The Spanish Inquisition (Monty Python)|sketch of the same name]] in which [[Wikipedia:Michael Palin|Michael Palin]], [[Wikipedia:Terry Jones|Terry Jones]], and [[Wikipedia:Terry Gilliam|Terry Gilliam]] were dressed in similar costumes.
*The Poopsmith holding up a sign due to his inability to talk (or his vow of silence) is reminiscent of Wile E. Coyote of [[Wikipedia:Looney Tunes|Looney Tunes]] fame.
* The "I choose YOU, <insert character name here>chu" is an obvious reference to the show "[[Wikipedia:Pokémon (anime)|Pokémon]]," where one character, [[Wikipedia:Ash Ketchum|Ash]], has a similar famous line, "I choose YOU, Pikachu!"
* The subject line of the email when the Poopsmith is chosen for best costume, Teddy Poopspin, references [[Wikipedia:Teddy Ruxpin|Teddy Ruxpin]], a popular toy from the 80's made by Worlds of Wonder, the same company that made Lazer Tag.
* If you choose the King of Town for best costume, the subject line of the email is "King of Town, Now Sit Down." This is a reference to Sierra Online's [[Wikipedia: Quest for Glory|Quest for Glory]] (aka Hero's Quest), where the phrase "Hut of brown, now sit down" was used to gain access to Baba Yaga's magic hut.
* If you choose Strong Sad for best costume, the subject line of the email is "A vote for Strong Sad is a vote for America." This is a reference to 1984 Presidential Candidate Walter Mondale's Campaign slogan, which was "A vote for Walter Mondale is a vote for America." Mondale lost the election to Ronald Reagan in a landslide, winning only his home state (Minnesota) and the District of Columbia.
* Giving Strong Mad and The Cheat the rocks may be a reference to the only Halloween treat Charlie Brown receives in ''[[Wikipedia:It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown|It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown]]''.


===Fast Forward===
*"Cheatachu" later became The Cheat's screen name in [[i she be]] and [[marzipan]].
*The music that was used as Homestar was rising would later be used in the Strong Bad Email [[theme park]] as background music for "The Strong Sad Gets Decked Repeatedly Stunt Spooktacular".
*"Your house" was later reused in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]] where you could, once again, choose Coach Z's and Bubs's treats (and Stinkoman's, too).
*The phrase "Get offa me!" would later be said by a [[sticky note]] in the email [[vacation]].
*This toon started the [[Bubslegum Comics]].
*The jingle that Homsar sings when given candy sounds strangely like the jingle for [[SBLOUNSKCHED!]], in [[candy product]]
*The 2005 Halloween toon, [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]], is also done in the style of a decision-making game, just like this Halloween toon.
*The result of the voting contest was finally revealed, 5 years after the toon's release, in [[Halloween Awards Show]].
*Bubs's door-knocking rhythm would become the same rhythm as used in Hip Hop Dance from [[New Boots]].
*The Cheat will again fully open his mouth in [[rough copy]].
*Coach Z say "a root da doot do," witch is later used in [[Sbemail 169 Deleted scene]]

== DVD Version ==
*The title and opening credits scene has been moved to after the first scene.
*Homestar does not ask the viewer to drag the treats on top of them.
*The doors open on their own.
*Coach Z no longer says "George Foreman?" when offered the Jujyfruits.
*The "unlocking" sound for Homsar is higher-pitched and cleaner.
*Homsar's lines for the shaving cream and wrench are inexplicably switched.
*Homsar appears in the ending whether he was unlocked or not.
*Marzipan adds "What's wrong with girls?" after Strong Mad punches The King of Town.
*Marzipan says "No" to Strong Sad's question just before Strong Sad replies.
*Homestar does not ask if the viewer has voted yet.
*As Homestar starts the repetition of the end scene, the scene fades out.
*If you wait too long without making a choice when Pom Pom and The Poopsmith are at the door, the Homsar scene is automatically unlocked.

== See also ==
*[[Strong Bad's Treat Snatcha]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:halloween2001.html|watch "The House That Gave Sucky Treats"]]
*[[HR:halloween2001.swf|view the Flash file for "The House That Gave Sucky Treats"]]

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Talk:Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007

24.34.71.97 — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:57:22 GMT

24.34.71.97: /**/"amazing and ridiculous and kind of frightening..."

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==Transcript==
Hi Guys,

I go to Georgia Tech and attended the event in question, so Tom offered to let me reserve the right to do the transcript of the video. It's a long video (1 hour), so it'll take me a few days. Bear with me.

Thanks.

[[User:Spiralagnus|Spiralagnus]] 17:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

:Given the sheer length of the video, I've split the transcript into two parts for easier reading and navigation. The first part, which I've just posted, is the first half hour where the Brothers Chaps provide Flash demos to the audience. The second half will be the Q&A with the audience, and I'll probably have that online by Wednesday night.

:As a point of interest, one of the demos was the exclusive Strong Bad E-mail that will accompany strongbad_email.exe Disc Five, which the Brothers Chaps think will be out in the next month or so. The sound quality on the e-mail is not as good as it was for the Brothers Chaps themselves, since the Chaps were wearing microphones that fed directly into the camera. Nevertheless, I've provided the [[Accent|best transcript I could]].

:[[User:Spiralagnus|Spiralagnus]] 30 April 2007

::I've been reading through it — looks great! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I've added the the transcript for the first half of the Q&A. Unfortunately, I wanted to get the entire thing done by tonight, but this is all I was able to do. I'll start on the second half in the morning.

Thanks.

[[User:Spiralagnus|Spiralagnus]] 05:59, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

The transcript is finished. Thanks, guys, for all of your patience.

[[User:Spiralagnus|Spiralagnus]] 04:26, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

== Censored ==

Can I make the censored version of this talk now? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 23:59, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

:You're certainly welcome to start, although the transcript's not yet complete. I have the last quarter of it about 90% done and will have it uploaded before I go to bed tonight.

:[[User:Spiralagnus|Spiralagnus]] 00:02, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

== Use of intro paragraphs in GT Library newsletter ==

Spiralagnus,

I am the creator of the video that you transcribed. Would you mind if I use the brief intro [see below] from your page in our May issue of ConneXus, the GT Library's monthly newsletter? I will give you complete credit. If you'd prefer that I use your real name, I could do that too.

Thanks so much and I'm so glad you and the other users are enjoying the video!

Katie G., Digital Projects Coordinator, GT Library

Item that I'd like to use:

"On April 26, 2007, The Brothers Chaps appeared at a talk at the Multimedia Studio of Georgia Tech. The event was scheduled to include Q&A, background info, a Flash demo and more.

The event took place in the Library on the Georgia Tech campus. It was organized by Alison Valk and Joel Linderman. It took place in the multimedia studio that houses all of their high end multimedia software and equipment, as well as being "homebase" for the Georgia Tech iMovieFest. The studio is currently decked out as "Mario-land" and discussions have taken place regarding the possibility of doing a Homestar Runner theme for the summer months.

Due to various programs on campus and the high interest of many of the students there in Flash animation, Alison and Joel felt The Brothers Chaps would be ideal speakers. Alison focused on the idea of collaborating with her management to bring in some "nontraditional speakers" to the library, such as "the guys from Homestar Runner". "

:Katie,

:I don't speak for Spiralagnus, nor the HRWiki, but you can find licensing info on the [[HRWiki:General disclaimer|General disclaimer]] page. Content on the HRWiki is under a Creative Commons license, which I believe would allow you to incorporate the material into your publication, assuming it is noncommercial and assuming you give attribution.

:FYI, most of the paragraphs in question was [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Georgia_Tech_-_26_Apr_2007&diff=449460&oldid=449447 written by] [[User:Tom|Tom]], and may have been edited by other users since. As such, I think the appropriate licensor would be the HRWiki itself (under the aforementioned CC license) rather than Spiralagnus. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 15:43, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

::Agreed. The content of the Wiki is maintained and edited by the entire community and is therefore the property of the Wiki itself instead of an individual person. Please credit the Wiki.
::[[User:Spiralagnus|Spiralagnus]] 17:06, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Good deal. Thanks so much!

:You're welcome! And thanks for the citation: [http://smartech.gatech.edu/dspace/handle/1853/14335] :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:43, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== Vid? ==

How do I downlaod the video of the event? (Does it work for an XP?) {{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 00:15, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
:[http://smartech.gatech.edu/bitstream/1853/14302/3/homestar.mp4 Here] is the link to the video. It works on my XP, but you need Quicktime to play it. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:23, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

== Double checking ==

I'm not prepared to download the 148mb video, so could someone who is double check: Does Matt actually say "Why he has a toilet brush in some cartoon?" (as opposed to "Why's he have..")? It would be a very interesting real-life example of a [[non-inverted questions|non-inverted question]]. --[[User:Vlad|Vlad]] 03:34, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:20:35, the transcript seems accurate to me, but the punctuation might be different. I'd be inclined to say this was not notable anyway, being an interview or public appearance. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:49, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== "amazing and ridiculous and kind of frightening..." ==

what an honor...

Talk:Homestarloween Party

24.34.71.97 — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:04:42 GMT

24.34.71.97: /**/Matt acually reads our stuff?

==Halloween Toons Template==
It really wasn't needed at all, was it? First of all, it wasn't on any other halloween toon. Secondly, it's basically the same thing as Category:Halloween. Any objections? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 11:41, 13 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Closed Fun Facts ==

=== Politics (DECLINED) ===

Marzipan's mention that one of the Pom girls was a Republican (and the Republican flag subsequently appearing) is the only reference to real-life politics or political parties on the site.

*'''Decline.''' What about Strong Sad as [[Wikipedia:Mikhail Gorbachev|Gorbachev]] in the same toon? Or Martin [[Van Buren]]? Or "[[Wikipedia:Herbert Clark Hoover|herbert hoover]]?" in [[Kick the Can]]? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 13:07, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
** Well, how about ''modern'' politics? I'm actually '''Neutral''' toward this fact, though. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 13:09, 3 Feb 2005 (MST)
***Gorbachev was in power less than twenty years ago. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
* '''Second''' [[User:Trogga|Trogga]]'s fact. Although there is also Abraham Lincoln's profile in [[Everybody to the Limit]] and [[Fluffy Puff Commercial]], as if it matters. --[[User:the spludge|the spludge]] 16:57, 3 Feb 2005 (CST)
* '''Decline''' Unimportant, not interesting, and not even true to boot. [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 16:01, 13 Feb 2005 (PST)

After several weeks of unanimous decline votes, this fact was moved to the Homestarloween Party talk page. →evin290 16:13, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
===CREEPING floating DEATH flashlight===
When everyone is telling ghost stories, no one actually holds the flashlight with his or her hands. It just sort of floats in front of everyone. With Homestar, Marzipan, and the King of Town, this makes sense, since none of them have visible hands, but we should see everybody else's hands.

*'''Decline''' I suppose that they couldn't be seen holding the flashlight, but their arms could be behind the black circle, so...nope. --[[User:acekirby13|acekirby13]] 17:59, 10 Apr 2005 (MDT)
* '''Declinez0rs''' Didn't we already see this? [[User:Dasrik|Dasrik]] 22:09, 11 Apr 2005 (MDT)
** '''Second''' I believe so, but apparently the person who posted this goof moved it back when he found it STUFF'd, so it was STUFF'd again. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] *'''Decline.''' This is just a continuation of one of the site's longest running gags: none of the characters have a normal physiology. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 15:27, 17 Apr 2005

== Coach Z's Clock ==
I checked the clock on Coach Z and It said 4:57 or 4:58. Is the clock broken because the moon is out? Could this be a Triva or a Glitch or a Fun Fact? {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}}

== Bubs' Gender ==

Hey because they are lined up boy girl boy girl and if Homestar is a male would that make bubs a female?
do you thinks it could be possible? {{unsigned|Boyfriend dan|06:03, 28 January 2007}}
:Well, as there's only one girl, no one has a lot of options. Anyway, all evidence points to Bubs being of the <strike>[[big white face|blue-headed]]</strike> male persuasion. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Boyfriend Dan, you are ''cwazy''! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:51, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

== TEN deaths? ==

More like nine to me. let's see, 3 Pom pom girls, 2 pets, boy, girl, robot, goblin... Who's the 10th?! --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 21:04, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
:Maybe if the brain from the kindly old man and the robot count seperately...? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:26, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
::Well, whoever it was who posted ten deaths, it says nine now. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 17:04, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

== Well, who won? ==

Did TBC ever reveal which costume won? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]]
:No. But they ''did'' reveal which ''House That Gave Sucky Treats'' costume won in [[Halloween Awards Show]], if that's any consolation. {{User:VolatileChemical/sig}} 19:37, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
::That just made me confused that they didn't reveal the winners in chronological order. But that must have been because this is just "send us an email telling us who you like best!" while Sucky Treats was more traditional, "click on the character who you like the best!" so it was easier to count votes. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:12, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

== Hey look bubs has no arms ==

when it's his turn with the flashlight he has no arms! creepy. [[User:Foogs|Plain ol' Foogs ya'll biscutheads]] 20:12, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

== Matt acually reads our stuff? ==

in the commentary, Matt mentions us.

sweet.

Talk:Who Said What Now?

24.34.71.97 — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:03:19 GMT

24.34.71.97: /**/Spin n' Say

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|[[Image:Warning.png|30px|Butt's twelve by pies!]]
|'''Note:''' This game used to have a different name and a different shape. We're aware of that. Due to circumstances outside our control, we're not going into further detail at this time. Until we are able to discuss it further, please do not ask about it or worry about it too much. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.
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Does anyone know where I can find that fan music video for Strong Sad's line? I always liked it. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 04:20, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

:I know where you can find it. It's called "Strong Bad Rocks Out" by [[The Skate Party]]. You can listen to it (or download it) using a link on my forum. Here's the URL: [http://www.strongfans.com/portal/show_entry.asp?TYP=2&EntryID=169] Enjoy! {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:43, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

::Or go here- http://newgrounds.com/portal/view/187036. [[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 20:59, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==The tab==
the tab has 3-type-D animation, ie, when you pull it, it comes up horizontal, when its at rest its at a diagonal angle. {{User:Csours/sig}} 09:07, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

== Is That A Cold One? ==

i always thought that the "dink" heard during strong bads say was a cold one bottle cap coming off. and i still think it is. should i put this up in stuff? -{{User:Homsar7/sig}}
:I think it's pretty hard to say what it is, as there's no visual to match it to. Anything at all is pretty much speculation. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Name Change==
This game is now called "Who said what?" I think it's because of the copyright issue thing. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 21:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:Noted and moved. Thanks for the update! --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:44, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
::Is it worth noting somewhere in the article the reason for the name change? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:21, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Doubtful. That's not really part of the encyclopedic significance. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
::::I think it's an important part of the game's history. But we should wait how everything turns out before we add it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::Yeah. When did it change? Boy, this is getting to be an interesting week. --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 22:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

==Picture==
Now that the game has been changed, is it permissible to put a picture of the new game up? {{User:Geshmalderborgen/sig}} 22:04, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:I should think so, yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

== Locked? ==

Somehow I ended up logged out, and when I noticed this page on RecentChanges, I noticed it was locked. The only explanation given is that it was "at the request of [[Karen Wagner]]"... I suppose, looking at the above comments, I might have a guess why it was locked (copyright issues?), but that said, how accurate is my guess? And does it still need to be locked? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:Also, the image was removed per KW (according to the history) and now has been restored. a) are we allowed to do this and b) can someone please explain what's going on? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:07, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
::Well, it's a new image. Different image. But I should probably check first... *sweatdrop* I've commented it out for now, until I get an okay... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:13, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Is it still appropriate for this page to be locked?{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:06, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:It probably doesn't need to be locked for too much longer, but we're trying to tread through this issue carefully, so hold on a little longer... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:19, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Is there a particular reason long-time members are locked as well? I've seen quite a few Wikipedia pages, such as [[Wikipedia:High School Musical]], which were locked only to nonmembers and newbies. If we can lock it for those people only I have an idea for a picture to use in the template. (I know this should go in its own talk page but I didn't know what to call the template) [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
:We don't need a semi-protected template, thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:32, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

i need to add a "view the old version" link (to spin and say) [[User:slipknot6477]]
:No, we're not going to do that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
why not?
:For reasons that are already listed on this page in various threads. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:26, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

::In other words, [[looking old|legal reasons]] not to be discussed at the current time. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 23:28, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

== Request for article link change ==

The line ''The game is a parody of Mattel's "See 'n Say."'' should, I think, instead of linking to Mattel's wiki entry, should more appropriately link to the [[Wikipedia:See 'n Say|See 'n Say]] page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 11:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:Done. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:17, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
::Cool, thanks! Also, I don't mean to be knit picker, but I was hoping that the Mattel link would go away or look a bit better, since having the word be half link/half text doesn't look as pleasing as if it looked like: [[Wikipedia:Mattel|Mattel's]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
::That is odd. Isn't the appended bit normally swallowed into the link, or is that only for inside links? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:06, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Mine swallows both internal and external links, except any with an "'s". Then it just goes '''Blue Words Here'''<nowiki>'s</nowiki>. Dunno why. *shrugs* --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
::::My guess is that extra characters are automatically apparended to the link when they are only letters. My guess is that the apostrophe breaks that "autolink". I personally don't like that feature and opt to link it myself. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:11, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::But don't. The link is to the noun, not the possessive, and shouldn't be linked as though it were. Also, we should avoid piped links when possible. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
::::::True. The link is a noun and not the possessive, but it just looks soooo much prettier! Lol. And we rename things all the time! Oh is that what you mean by avoiding piped links when possible? But I like piped links! They're my frieeend! ... *awkward silence* Right. Anyway, I just think form over function might be a nice idea in this very... isolated... case. Yeah. Isolated. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

== Add some links ==

Would it be appropiate to add links to the original version? I couldn't add them myself because the edit buttons appear to be hidden.
:I don't think we should. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 00:23, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
::If anything, we should put it on [[Secret Pages]], but only after this page and the other pages involving the toy are unprotected, and the copyright issue is resolved {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 00:27, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:::I think we should pretend "Sp*n 'N S*y" never existed and it has always been Who Said What?. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 00:29, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
::::I concur. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:31, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, there are places where the forbidden name is used, such as the [[Third Games Menu]] and [[Why Come Only One Girl?]]. Also the old [[Handheld Games Menu]] mirrors. I say that we don't do anything more until we get the Chapmans' ok. - {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 00:42, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:That is likely for the best. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
How can [[Secret Pages]] and [[Astro-Lite 2600]] include links to Lite Brite if it is a registered trademark of Hasbro? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 15:30, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

::That issue hasn't yet surfaced as a problem (and hopefully never will). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible for us to pretend this game was always this state without creating the impression Kidelectrix predates Videlectrix? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:59, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, you're doing a damn good job of erasing The Game That Apparently Must Not Be Named from history, let me say. I came across this page and thought, "Ah, it's been changed", but then found no reference to [that game]. I know how obsessive you fanboys are at documenting every little thing about Homestar Runner, so I frantically searched for any reference at all to [that game] on the wiki, but found none, and thought to myself, "Have I gone mad? Did I just imagine [that game]? Why on earth isn't there a reference to it?" Nothing made sense until I found this talk page, from which the situation can be inferred.

Pandering to the dictates of the Chaps aside, I don't see why there shouldn't be a reference to it on this site. It isn't affiliated to homestarrunner.com, so there can't be any ramifications, can there? Well, there's my bit. Thanks for causing so much confusion. --[[User:84.67.250.92|84.67.250.92]] 22:16, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:Hey, no problem. Unfortunately, it's not going to change anytime soon, at least not until the dust finally settles. You may think we're pandering fanboys—and that's fine, you can think that if you want—but really we're being respectful of them and their request. Also, I think it shows poor discretion if one's bottom line in making decisions is "Meh, what's the worst that can happen?". In cases like that, it's almost always better not to find out. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:58, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::Wait, why is this an issue? Is it because of the copyright on the original errm... thing by mattel? I got lost. Suddenly everyone's acting like we need to clean up after a murder. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 23:07, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:::The nature of the issue is such that we won't be discussing it at present; however, in due time we will explain the full reasoning behind everything. I know it's frustrating, but we are asking for your patience for a while longer. Thanks for your cooperation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:49, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
::::I understand. When a legal issue comes up like this, the best thing to do is exactly what you and all the other sysops and admins are doing. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:44, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::If I may chip in my thoughts on this, to avoid confusion (i.e. the aformentioned "Kidelectrix predates Videlectrix!?!" thing), whenever it is deemed we can edit this again, we could simply say "This game is an edited version of an older game, with Homsar's quote and the Kidelectrix name added" or something--we can be ambiguous and not say anything about the older game's content, just say that this one is a new version of an older game. [[User:Evan|Evan]] 00:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::Here's my two cents: Evan's plan is a good one for now, but in the future, should there ever be a resolution, we can give a full explanation as to what happened to the (BLEEEEEEEEP). --[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 04:17, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Are you referring to something like, "Homsar's quote and the Kidelectrix label were added later," because that sounds good to me. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:47, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

== About a Fun Fact ==

I don't like the word "parody". Please change the text "This game is a '''parody''' of Mattel's See 'n' Say" to something else. Thank you. Remember: YOU made me hate this word. {{unsigned|76.184.188.124|17:32, 8 March 2007 (UTC)}}
:Look for a second at the [[ahd:61/94/P0079400.html|definition]] of the word, the relevant part of which I will highlight here: "An artistic work that imitates the characteristic style of another work for comic effect." That is ''exactly'' what this game is. But never mind that. TBC, via their representative, ''specifically'' asked us to use that word. It stays. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

== They're s'posed to what? ==

Where can I find out more about the copyright issue? Did Mattel try to sue them or something? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:We don't know. All we know is [[Talk:Who Said What Now?#Add some links|this was always "Who Said What"]], and the rest doesn't need to be elaborated on. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 23:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
::I don't know if we can pull that off since the original name is still used in [[Secret Pages]] and [[Old Flash Stuff]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:03, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

==Homsar==
Hey, Homsar has a line but it's not translated to text!

'''HOMSAR:'''AaAaAh, My cheese is 50 cent!

-Ben from the fanstuff wiki

:<s>You can just put it on the page you know :)</s> This must be an addition to the original because I've noticed that all of the timings for the subtitles are out of sync now.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 23:45, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::Nevermind, I didn't realize the page was locked from editing.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 23:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::An administrator will need to add this.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 02:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

why is it quieter? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 16:59, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's quieter. It sounds different because it was added later. By the time TBC added his line, what they recorded had a better sound quality than the other buttons. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 17:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

== Stuff To Add ==

*The [[Handheld Games Menu]] still calls this game Who Said What?
*Include a link in Marzipan's quote to [[The Only Girl]]. Thank you for your time. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 05:40, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

:The first one would fit better on [[Handheld Games Menu]] than on this page, I think. As for the second one, we usually don't link characters' speech in transcripts. I tried figuring out a different way to work it in, but nothing came to me. Any suggestions? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:53, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::I'd say add is as a fun fact:
::*Marzipan's line refers to the fact that she is considered [[The Only Girl|the only female lead]].
::Feel free to reword to make it sound better. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:17, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I think that sounds prooty grood — I {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Who_Said_What_Now%3F&diff=451063&oldid=449987 added it}}. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Another thing to mention is that Homestar doesn't have a mouth on his picture. I'm still cheesed off that this page is protected in the first place (I'm not going to ask why). Can we just ban it from annonies? Or is it that bad? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 00:55, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::Please see [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3AWho_Said_What_Now%3F&diff=461958&oldid=461925]. Sorry about this, and thanks for understanding.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:58, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

== New Fun Fact ==

I noticed that the characters on the buttons resemble the character designs from the back page of the FAQ. Just puttin' this up here, in case you want to STUFF it. [[User:76.184.199.4|76.184.199.4]] 02:07, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
:What part of the FAQ? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 02:12, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

::Oh, you mean the static characters on the last page — they're very close, but I can find subtle differences in all of them except Pom Pom... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 03:59, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

== For kids? ==

Anyone else notice that Homsar's picture in this resembles the one used in [[For Kids]] in [[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]]'s theme song? -[[User:Free Bagels|Free Bagels]] 01:20, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

== Fact/Goof ==

Is it a fact or a goof that the narrator refers to every character with a "the" infront of their name except for The Cheat?
It should be "the The Cheat says..." -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 19:35, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
:you forgot the KOT and the poopsmith, both of whom have [[integral article]]s. not a goof or a relevant fact. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:40, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
::The King and Poopsmith are not ''always'' integral like The Cheat is, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
:::still, they are mostly, as evidenced by their page names [[The King of Town|'''The''' King of Town]] and [[The Poopsmith|'''The''' Poopsmith]]. Ergo, still not relevant. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
::If this toon were created today, then it might be different, but it was from way back when they hadn't firmed up the whole integral article thing. As such, it's not really that notable. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:03, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

==Homsar's line==

Would it, erm, hurt if we could at least say "Assumably, Homsar's line was recorded later than the rest, hence the difference in sound quality" or something? It looks kind of silly as it is. D: [[User:Evan|Evan]] 23:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:I think it's fine as it is. It's not silly at all.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== The old game ==

Wow, since when was this changed? I think it used to be a Spin 'n Say, because that redirects here. Where you pulled a string and the quotes cycled through 11 different guys. [[User:75.46.60.77|75.46.60.77]] 17:20, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:The name changed a little over four months ago, and then the game itself was updated about two months ago, because of the work of outside forces. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:29, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Yeah. M*ttel got [[The Brothers Chaps]] to change it because they felt their copyrights were being skimped. (M*ttel manufactures Sp*n 'n S*y, ya know.) [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 21:53, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:None of that is a secret; we are just choosing not to discuss the details at present. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:59, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

um... who said what nows article is crazy and we need to get the spin and say/who said what now thing finished. most of its discussion is with secret pages. we got to get this settled in a pole home. [[User|slipknot6477|slipknot6477]]
:We ''have'' finished the page and the only problems are people who continue to bring it up. I'm not sure what you mean by "pole home", but there is no need to continue discussion about the previous happenings of Who Said What Now?. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 15:56, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

== Spin n' Say ==

Spin n' Say is still accessable. go to the shooter games menu and in the address replace "html" with "swf"

Homsar

24.34.71.97 — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:34:17 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* Speech */

{{charnav|Homsar|homsar|The Poopsmith|Homestar Runner}}
{{aboutcharacter}} {{foremail|homsar}}
[[Image:homsar evolution current.png|thumb|{{homsarquote}}]]

== Biography ==
'''Homsar''' is perhaps the strangest and most enigmatic of all the [[Characters#Main characters|primary residents]] of the [[Homestar Runner universe]]. He was originally created as a result of a typo in the [[Strong Bad Email|email]] [[homsar]], in which Vinnie C. asked, "If you hate homsar so much, why don't you kill him?" (Presumably, Vinnie had actually meant to type "[[Homestar Runner|Homestar]]".) [[Strong Bad]] promptly dropped a [[Heavy Lourde]] on Homsar and left him for [[Death|dead]]. [[The Brothers Chaps]] later decided to keep Homsar as a main character, and they brought him back in an Easter egg in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] and in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]], where he thanked [[Marzipan]] for the flowers she sent him while he was in the hospital.

Homsar occasionally makes brief appearances in various cartoons, but most of the time he appears only in Easter eggs (and has even been referred to as the "secret guy"). In every [[Holidays#Halloween (October 31st)|Halloween toon]] since his introduction, Homsar has appeared in an Easter egg somewhere in the middle of the Toon. (This is usually triggered by clicking somewhere on or near [[The Poopsmith]].)

Homsar doesn't have very many friends other than [[Strong Sad]] and Marzipan. Most of the other characters generally regard him as a nuisance. In particular, Strong Bad seems to dislike him the most; as he states in [[interview]] that he would rather gnaw his own leg off than talk to him for 3 seconds. [[Bubs]] apparently refuses to talk to him, as evidenced in [[Where's The Cheat?]]. Despite his unpopularity, he serves in the [[Homestarmy]] and occasionally attends parties where the other main characters are present. He enjoys playing board games with Strong Sad, and has organized his own activities, such as a [[tree hugging]] concert and the play "[[stupid stuff|Butt's Twelve by Pies]]" (starring Lighting and Set Decoration). He ran the Merch Masala on the [[Cool Tapes]] tour in [[Weclome Back]].

In the email [[interview]], Strong Bad, using a pen puppet, claimed that Homsar was "raised by a cup of coffee".

*'''Debut:''' Email [[homsar]]
*[[:Category:Homsar Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

==Distinctive Characteristics==

===Speech===
Homsar's most distinct characteristic is his unusual manner of speaking, which has varied over time. His tone of voice is generally quite exaggerated, and he often begins sentences by wailing "OoAaAAaaAAaaAAaa!". His speech tends to range from perfectly normal English to often random and disconnected phrases that have little to no connection to the scene. Many believe that Homsar speaks in [[Wikipedia:Word salad (mental health)|word salads]] (a speech disorder characteristic of [[Wikipedia:Schizophrenia|schizophrenia]] in which grammar and sentence structure is often intact, but the words themselves have no particular meaning), but a [[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns|detailed analysis of his speech patterns]] has shown that this is seldom the case. Instead, it seems that Homsar can and does relate well to his environment and other characters when he needs to, but is also prone to saying completely random things when there's no particular reason for him to stay in context.

Although the viewer is frequently left to figure out what Homsar's statements mean, other characters tend to just accept his speech and usually seem to understand it. Strong Bad is so far the only character to point out that Homsar's speech is "just nonsense", and even then, he was using a pen puppet to illustrate his point rather than talking to Homsar directly. It has been argued that his unusual speech patterns are the result of being crushed by the Heavy Lourde. Some find this unlikely, considering that he was able to speak more or less normally when he called Marzipan after that event. Others suggest that it is possible that the negative effect was a delayed reaction.

As shown in [[DNA Evidence]], he can make his voice sound like a whole crowd of people, even when he is alone.

===Bowler Hat and Psychokinesis===
Another notable aspect of Homsar is that his yellow [[bowler hat]] can float. It appears that this hat, which levitates when Homsar speaks, is actually being manipulated, as opposed to just flying about on its own. Homsar is, after all, a character [[Lack of Visible Arms|lacking visible arms]]. A theory for this is that Homestar, and quite possibly the other characters lacking arms, have limited psychokinetic abilities. Support for this theory is not only the fact that Homsar's hat floats whenever he speaks, but that it can float even when he isn't. Homsar himself is even capable of levitation, as demonstrated in [[narrator]], his [[Homsar#Character Video Transcript|character video]], [[A Folky Tale]], [[Halloween Fairstival]] , and [[the paper]]. Apart from levitation, Homsar can duplicate himself ([[Fall Float Parade]]), make a paintbrush ring like a bell ([[Homestar Presents: Presents]]), transmute his bowler hat into an engineer's cap ([[Homsar#Character Video Transcript|Character Video]]), perhaps manipulate time ([[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]), metamorphose ([[impression]]) (though Homsar's supposed metamorphosis is generally accepted to be just a very convincing costume by most people, this cannot exactly be proven or disproven), levitate his body and make it spin in midair (possibly the world spins as well) ([[Character Video]]), and shrink in size ([[Happy Hallow-day]]). He can also make the sound of a crowd ([[DNA Evidence]]). Indeed, it appears that the laws of both science and logic do not apply to him.

===Similarity to Homestar Runner===
In terms of general appearance, Homsar bears a striking resemblance to [[Homestar Runner]]. Although he is grossly exaggerated and more curved, he and Homestar share [[Wikipedia:Prognathism|underbites]], clothing style (a hat and shirt), feet style, shading, and skin color. As he was originally a misspelling of "Homestar", it is logical that Homsar is somewhat of a badly drawn Homestar. Strong Bad remarks upon this in the email [[for kids]], where he refers to Homsar as a "blue midget Homestar". Homestar himself even calls Homsar "Homestar" in [[looking old]].

===Naming of Other Characters (and Himself)===
Homsar often assigns the other characters, including himself, strange names. This could be because he has forgotten their real names, is confused, or disregards their real names. These "names" are sometimes based on the character's appearance (Strong Sad: That Rhinoceros) or a similar-sounding name (Bubs: Tubbs). Others (Strong Bad: Reggie) hardly make sense. This is assuming that he is speaking to/about these characters and that he is not just disoriented or believes he is talking to someone else. His way of naming may also be used to describe how a character looks at the time, like when he called The Cheat "chocolate cake" when The Cheat was covered in [[whatsit]]. Homsar also thinks up strange names for himself, such as "the captain of the gravy train", "the human wedgie", "a friendly reminder", and "a trendy tote bag". Homsar doesn't seem to repeat any of his made-up names, in keeping with his tendency to forget or disregard things or become confused.

===Walking===
Whenever Homsar walks, he makes a peculiar fluttery noise. Some other characters also have made this noise.

*[[Mr. Shmallow]]
*[[Nibbles]]
*[[The Thnikkaman]] ([[Bubs]]) (when he's tied up as seen in [[cliffhangers]])
*[[Strong Bad]] (when he's scurrying in [[retirement]] , [[looking old]] , and in [[the paper]])
*[[Strong Mad]] (from the email [[virus]])
*2 menus from "[[Flash's 10th Birthday]]".

== Character Video Transcript ==
''{'''Page Title:''' The Hand-Me-Down Clown!!}'' ''{'''Place:''' [[The Field]]}''

''{The background is upside-down throughout the video, with the blue sky on the bottom of the screen and the green grass at the top.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hi, Wonder Mike! I'm Homsar! The captain of the gravy train.

''{His bowler hat pops up and turns into a railroad engineer's hat.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' Climb aboard!

''{His hat returns to normal.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' I've brought my best foot flowered... Pshoooo!

''{His hat slides down the back of his head, then snaps back at the end of the sound.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' Sure beats breaking up with me. Don't look now! I'm just a friendly reminder. AaAaAaAaAaAaA! AaAaAaAaAaAaA!

''{While screaming for the second time in a row, he spins around the screen backwards two and a half times. He ends up at the top, upside down.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' Think I won the Powerball.

(Note: To view Homsar's character video, click "Eject" on [[the VCR]], then click the tape.)

== Fun Facts ==

*[[Wikipedia:Wonder Mike|Wonder Mike]] is a member of [[Wikipedia:The Sugarhill Gang|The Sugarhill Gang]], famous for the song "Rapper's Delight". In the beginning of "Rapper's Delight", Wonder Mike says "I am Wonder Mike and I'd like to say hello", so Homsar saying "Hi, Wonder Mike" could possibly be a response.
*"Think I won the Powerball" is a reference to the multistate [[Wikipedia: Powerball|Powerball Lottery]], which is known for having large jackpots.
*Homsar's character page is the only one with background music.
*Since the camera is presumably upside-down throughout his character video, Homsar starts the video upside-down and ends it right-side-up; this was more visible during [[April Fool's 2006]]. He "stands on air" again in the long toon [[A Folky Tale]] as an Easter egg.
*He is also seen floating in the Strong Bad email [[narrator]].
*Homsar is the only main character with no [[Old-Timey]] counterpart.
*Homsar's coloring is similar to that of the unused character [[Rejected Characters#Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]].

== Variations ==
*[[Modestly Hot Homsar]]

=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===

*[[wikipedia:J. Wellington Wimpy|Wimpy]] in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*[[IMDB:tt0165798|Ghost Dog]] in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*[[wikipedia:Slash (musician)|Slash]] in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*Kumar (from [[IMDB:0115734|Bottle Rocket]]) in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*[[Wikipedia:Tingle|Tingle]] from [[Wikipedia:Legend of Zelda|The Legend of Zelda]] series in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]].
*[[Wikipedia:Ed Grimley|Ed Grimley]] in [[Happy Hallow-day]].

==See Also==
*[[Homsar Evolution]]
*[[Homsar Other Costumes|Other Costumes]]
*[[Nicknames#Homsar|Nicknames]]
*[[Bowler Hats]]
*[[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns]]

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|"Let's sing a song of Pennzoil!"|[[Fall Float Parade]]|Mirror:homsar_pennzoil.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"AAAaaaAAh'm the human wedgie!"|[[origins]]|Mirror:hom_wedgie.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I'm the human wedgie!"|[[origins]]|Mirror:hom_wedgie.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Alms for the pudgy? Alms for the pudgy?"|[[Homestar Presents: Presents]]|Mirror:hom1_pudgy.mp3}}
|}

== External Links ==
*[[HR:vcr_homsar.html|watch Homsar's character video]]
*[[HR:vcr_homsar.swf|view the Flash file for Homsar's character video]]

{{Characters|Homsar}}

{{subtitlesLinks|vcr_homsar}}

[[Category:Homestarmy]]

Talk:The Dapper Swindler

24.34.71.97 — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:58:51 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* no */

I think we should include text that is also in the thumbnail as Wikis are primarily a text-based medium. It also allows for text-only browsers and "readers" for the blind. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:34, 11 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I agree. I've added the text back.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:30, 11 Feb 2005 (MST)

== no ==

this belongs on [[The Sneak]]--{{User:Benol/sig}} 20:57, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

It only appers once, i might add.[[User:24.34.71.97|24.34.71.97]] 14:58, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[[user:haldo]]

== yes ==

this belongs on its own page. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:09, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

== Old Timey manifestation of [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]]? ==
As I was reading this page, I was reminded of the poor rendering of Strong Bad as Biscuit Dough Hands Man. Could this be another accidental equivalent?

Well, if The Dapper Swindler was a dubious rendering of Old-Timey Strong Bad, I'd say yes. But since it isn't... [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 21:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, but do we KNOW that Buscuit Dough Hands Man *IS* Strong Bad? --[[User:Jrgilby|Jrgilby]] 01:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Talk:The Dapper Swindler

24.34.71.97 — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:57:45 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* no */

I think we should include text that is also in the thumbnail as Wikis are primarily a text-based medium. It also allows for text-only browsers and "readers" for the blind. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:34, 11 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I agree. I've added the text back.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:30, 11 Feb 2005 (MST)

== no ==

this belongs on [[The Sneak]]--{{User:Benol/sig}} 20:57, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

It only appers once, i might add.

== yes ==

this belongs on its own page. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:09, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

== Old Timey manifestation of [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]]? ==
As I was reading this page, I was reminded of the poor rendering of Strong Bad as Biscuit Dough Hands Man. Could this be another accidental equivalent?

Well, if The Dapper Swindler was a dubious rendering of Old-Timey Strong Bad, I'd say yes. But since it isn't... [[User:71.231.56.40|71.231.56.40]] 21:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, but do we KNOW that Buscuit Dough Hands Man *IS* Strong Bad? --[[User:Jrgilby|Jrgilby]] 01:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Teen Girl Squad Issue 13

24.34.71.97 — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:17:53 GMT

24.34.71.97: Arrow'd Guy link

{{tgsnav|13|Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_12|Issue 12|Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_1|Issue 1}}
[[Image:Tgs13.png|thumb|"Don't let Timkins play my PSone!"]]

[[So And So]] is baby-sitting, but her friends interrupt.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Tompkins}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Momkins|Momkins]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Timkins|Baby Timkins]], {{Film|So and So}}, [[Arrow'd Guy|Baby-Sat guy]][[Category: Arrow'd Guy Filmography]], {{Film|Cheerleader}}, {{Film|What's Her Face}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Buttcrack Plumber|Plumber]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Peacey P|Peacey P]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Olympic Man and Coach|Olympic Man]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Policemen|Policemen]]

'''Places:''' [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Tompkins's House|Tompkins's house]], [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Hotel Balcony|Hotel Balcony]]

'''Date:''' Monday, June 18th, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:25

'''Page Title:''' Bebe's Sitter's Kids!

==Transcript==
''{The toon opens with Tompkins playing his Game Boy with a silhouette of his mother waving to him. The Teen Girl Squad theme music plays.}''

'''TOMPKINS:''' Aww, peas Momkins. I don't need a babysitter.

''{Zoom out to reveal Momkins, a robot wearing cowboy boots and a hat and carrying a pickaxe, along with a baby.}''

'''TOMPKINS:''' I can watch baby Timkins while you go out prospecting for future ex-husbands.

'''MOMKINS:''' Whatevs little man. You can't even take care of your own virtual pet.

''{Cut to a closeup of the Game Boy screen, displaying a bloated pet and the text, "Food: 600%". Music stops}''

'''VIRTUAL PET:''' Please stop feeding me!

''{Music continues. Tompkins begins mashing the buttons on the Game Boy.}''

'''TOMPKINS:''' Teh heh heh heh heh.

''{Cut to Momkins standing next to the front door, which has a large, wrinkly face on it}''

'''FRONT DOOR:''' Ding dong. Ding dong, yo.

''{The door opens to reveal So and So, with fangs.}''

'''SO AND SO:''' Hello Mrs. Tompkinsrobotmom[[erson]]. I know I'm 3 hours early, but I wanted to...

'''MOMKINS:''' Listen, I'll be at a place until a time. My cell phone number is some numbers. The baby needs stuff. What's poison control? Punch Tompkins in the gut. Good luck.

''{Momkins rushes out the door with a crazed look on her face and her tongue hanging out of her mouth. Her hat flies off and So and So's hair is disheveled as she leaves.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' She gone!

''{Cut to So and So speaking to Tompkins, who is playing his Game Boy next to a clock. The clock reads 5:03}''

'''SO AND SO:''' ''{pointing to her watch}'' Alright Tompkins, it is WAY past your bedtime.

'''TOMPKINS:''' ''{pointing at a flustered So and So}'' Listen babysit, I don't need to be babysat. I'll be in my room reorganizing my trenchcoats.

''{As Tompkins leaves, a giant baby resembling the [[Arrow'd Guy]] lands on and crushes him. The music stops.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' BABY SAT!

'''TOMPKINS:''' Don't let Timkins play my PSone!!!!!

''{Cut to a Teen Girl Squad title screen, featuring Cheerleader (wearing a dress labeled "Ms. Thang"), The Ugly One, and What's Her Face smashing through a wall. "issue 13" and "by: strong bad" appear in the corners. The theme music plays.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Teen Girl Squad!!! Cheerleader! ''{$15/hour}'' What's Her Face! ''{$4.75/hour}'' The Ugly One! ''{plain yogurt/hour}''

''{Cut to So and So speaking to the other girls next to the smashed wall}''

'''SO AND SO:''' Not now, you guys. I'm babysitting.

''{Close up on Cheerleader}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Oh, we know how to babysit... ''{grows hypnotic eyes and fangs, and pulls out a cell phone and several volumes of "Dem Boys"}'' I'll call EACH AND EVERY BOY!!

''{Cut to What's Her Face}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' I'll eat all their food!

''{Cut to The Ugly One, wearing a crown and a ruffled collar, holding a remote}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Just call me the queen of pay-per-view! ''{throws off the crown and collar and pushes the remote buttons. The text "t.a.p.s." appears every time the buttons are pushed}'' I think Ola Toya is fighting Camptown Jr. at Caesar's tonight!

''{Cut back to shot of So and So talking to Cheerleader (holding the cell phone), What's Her Face and The Ugly One (holding the remote)}''

'''SO AND SO:''' SHHH! Keep it down! The baby is studying for the SAT.

''{Cut to baby Timkins, under a pile of four books labeled "babySAT"}''

'''TIMKINS:''' Goo goo is ga-ga. Wah wah is ga-ga. ''{raises finger}'' Are all goo goos wah wahs?

''{Cut to an annoyed Cheerleader, holding her cell phone. Her dress now reads "The future Ms. Thang".}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Dag! None of my regulars are picking up! Let's see who on my B-list!

''{The phone rings, and the screen splits to show a plumber answering the call on a plunger.}''

'''PLUMBER:''' Uh, Buttcrack Plumbing!

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Hi Randy! I'm babysittin' tonight. Wanna come over and sneak in through the back window?

'''PLUMBER:''' And this is for a how many gallon toilet, ma'am?

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Bring all your hot friends... they've got two pantries!!!

''{A toilet with a beret, a mustache, a goatee, and a loaf of french bread crushes Cheerleader with a plunger.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' EAU DE TOiLETTE!

'''CHEERLEADER:''' So dignified!

''{Cut to What's Her Face standing between the two pantries}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Wow! 2 pantries! I'll have me a diet soda I s'pose.

''{So and So enters, livid with a giant mouth and fangs.}''

'''SO AND SO:''' STOP! How many of those have you had?!?!

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' ''{annoyed}'' Uh, negative one sip.

''{So and So holds up a textbook entitled, "<s>urban legends</s> i mean health class"}''

'''SO AND SO:''' Don't you remember health class? You'll microwave the baby!!

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' ''{holding up a "Diet Brown" can}'' This is Diet Brown, not PCP.

''{The Ugly One slides into the room. What's Her Face and So and So look surprised.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Did somebody say Peacey P? I LOVES the Peacey P!

''{Cut to Peacey P, wearing a jersey labeled "☮y P" ("[Peace symbol]y P"), standing with Olympic Man (with a blurred jersey)}''

'''PEACEY P:''' Crample-o stow wha clamminuh whaow. My new album drop next sursdai. Ya'll biscuitheads.

''{The Ugly One enters with a ☮y ([Peace symbol]y) necklace, and a pencil and notepad.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Can a sista get an autograph?

''{Olympic Man dangles The Ugly One off a balcony}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' DANGLED OFF A HOTEL BALCONY'D!!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' That's it?

''{Zoom out as The Ugly One is dropped from the balcony into a "bayonet tailgate party"}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Uh, and then DROPPED FROM SAID HOTEL BALCONY'D!!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' That's better!

''{Cut to So and So holding a dirty diaper and yelling at baby Timkins}''

'''SO AND SO:''' What kinda dirty diaper is this?! I told you to alphabetize this stuff!

''{Cut to Front Door. A surprised So and So is leaning in, still holding the diaper}''

'''FRONT DOOR:''' BANG! BANG! BANG!

'''THE POLICE:''' ''{from behind the door}'' Open up! It's the police!

''{Cut to a terrified So and So jumping in the air, dropping the diaper}''

'''SO AND SO:''' AHH! THE POPO! I can't do another nickel!

''{So and So jumps into the kitchen sink as background music begins to play.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' GARBAGE DISPOSAL, 

''{Cut to a shot of the garbage disposal in the sink, with evil eyes and fangs}''

WHAT A WAY TO GO! 

''{Cut to a grinning So and So in the garbage disposal, dancing with a plate, a spoon, a piece of broccoli and a carrot.}''

GARBAGE DISPOSAL, 

''{All but So and So's arm disappears}''

MEET SO AND SO!

''{So and So's arm disappears. The plate, spoon, broccoli and carrot look surprised. Music stops and is replaced by the theme music. Cut to the Front Door, where What's Her Face has let two policemen into the house.}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Can I help you gentlemen?

'''POLICEMAN 1:''' Uh, yes, ma'am. We got a report of us wanting to watch the Ola Toya fight. You mind if we investigate?

'''POLICEMAN 2:''' ''{holding up a packet labeled "Snack Mix"}'' I brought snack mix.

''{Cut to a "confidential" envelope out of which three game cards are removed.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' The Snak Mix, in Tompkins' Parlor, WITH THE PRETZEL STICK!

''{Cut to a life-sized Snak Mix bag with a monocle, who clubs What's Her Face with a pretzel stick}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' OW! MY STYLE! (or lack thereof)

''{Cut to Momkins, the two policemen, and baby Timkins sitting on a couch watching TV}''

'''TV ANNOUNCER:''' ...anuddah vicious right!!!

'''POLICEMAN 1:''' I need to put an APB out on some microwave popcorn.

'''POLICEMAN 2:''' ''{looking at Momkins}'' I'd like to report a very good-looking robot prospector.

'''MOMKINS:''' Awww, shush!

''{Brief pause. The music stops}''

'''TIMKINS:''' ''{pointing at Policeman 1}'' You're not my real father!

''{Cut to the usual "It's over!" screen}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' It's over!

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Deliberance.PNG|thumb|Drops Next Sursdai!]]
*Click on the "O" at the end to see a promo for Peacey P's new album.
:''{The Crample-O Stow Records logo appears. The logo is a gold hand making a C shape in a gold circle. The logo shines a few times. Hip hop music plays in the background}''
:'''ANNOUNCER:''' Crample-O Stow Records presents...
:''{Peacey P's album appears}''
:'''ANNOUNCER:''' ..."Deliberance", the new album from Peacey P...
:''{As the announcer says the following words, they appear in yellow zig-zags}''
:'''ANNOUNCER:''' ...featuring: Large Craig, featuring: The Overripe MC, featuring: Tenerence Love, featuring: Akryllix & 3rd Lung, featuring: Peacey P!
:'''PEACEY P:''' I'm a guest star on my own album, ya'll biscuitheads!
:''{The words "Drops Next Sursdai!" appear in a red oval at the bottom. Music fades out.}''

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Phencyclidine|PCP]], also known as angel dust, is a recreational [[drug]].
*''[[Wikipedia:Perfume|Eau de Toilette]]'' is [[French]] for a light, low concentrate perfume. "Toilet(te)" is used in an obsolete sense in both English and French to refer to personal grooming, the same sense as "toiletry".
*APB stands for [[Wikipedia:all points bulletin|all points bulletin]], a broadcast issued from one law enforcement agency to another, typically containing information about a wanted suspect.
*The [[Wikipedia:SAT|SAT Reasoning Test]] is a test that is frequently taken prior to entry into college in America and at primary school in the UK.
**Timkins's line "Goo goo is ga-ga. Wah wah is ga-ga. Are all goo goos wah wahs?" is a [[Wikipedia:Syllogism|syllogism]] of the form "All X are Y. All Z are Y. Are all X Z?" (the correct answer is "not necessarily"). Syllogisms were previously used on the SAT, but were removed in the new edition of the SAT.
*A "nickel" is slang for a 5-year prison sentence.
*Olympic Man's jersey is blurred because trademarked logos on clothing are often obscured by the producers of television or music videos when they don't want the logos visible in the final product.

===Trivia===
*This is the first Teen Girl Squad issue to use a [[Wikipedia:Cold open|cold open]] instead of starting immediately with the opening title sequence.
*This is the first TGS issue since issue #7 in which Strong Bad does not work a variation of himself into the comic.

===Remarks===
*The '2 pantries' are actually one pantry with a reverse image next to it.

===Goofs===
*The "Loading" frames are not rounded at the corners.
*Tompkins is misspelled as "Tomkins" on the [[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons menu]] description.
*Once the police officer starts talking to What's Her Face, a line appears near the doorknob.

===Fixed Goofs===
*Tompkins's name was misspelled as "Tomkins" through the entire toon, except in the Snack Mix sequence ("Tompkins' Parlor").
*When Cheerleader was telling the plumber to sneak in through the back window, the text read "the through," while she said "through the."

===Inside References===
*What's Her Face comments about the loss of her [[style]].
*When Tompkins pushes the buttons on his [[Nintendo|Game Boy]] to feed his virtual pet, the text [[Mashing Go|"m.a.s.h."]] appears.
*So and So saying "I can't do another nickel!" is in reference to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]] when So and So was in jail for shoplifting.
*Tompkins's mom's name ends with [[Names ending in -erson|-erson]].
*This issue contains several words or phrases ending in [['d]].
*"Deliberance" is a [[portmanteau]].

===Real-World References===
*Tompkins's virtual pet resembles a [[Wikipedia:Tamagotchi|Tamagotchi]].
*Peacey P's name resembles either [[Wikipedia:Eazy E|Eazy E]] or [[Wikipedia:Percee P|Percee P]], and his voice and singing style are very similar to [[Wikipedia:Snoop Dogg|Snoop Dogg]].
*So and So's line "You'll microwave the baby!!" and the book of urban legends she is holding reference the urban legend of a stoned babysitter [[Snopes:horrors/drugs/babysitter.asp|mistaking a baby for a roast]], and accidentally putting it in the oven (or microwave, in some versions).
*The lines about the Snack Mix prior to What's Her Face's demise are based on the board game [[Wikipedia:Cluedo|Clue]]. The picture of the Snack Mix on the card resembles Clue character [[Wikipedia:Cluedo_characters|Colonel Mustard]] .
*The title of the short is a reference to comedian [[Wikipedia:Robin Harris|Robin Harris's]] "Bébé's Kids" stand-up comedy act. After his death, his routine was adapted into a movie, also called [[Wikipedia:Bebe's Kids|"Bébé's Kids"]], the first animated feature with a majority African-American cast.
*"Ding dong. Ding dong, yo." is a memorable line from the video for [[Wikipedia:Fat (song)|"Fat"]] by [[Wikipedia:"Weird Al" Yankovic|"Weird Al" Yankovic]].
*Dangling The Ugly One over the balcony is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice's]] claim that rap record producer [[Wikipedia:Suge Knight|Marion "Suge" Knight]] hung him up upside down on a hotel balcony in order to get Vanilla Ice to turn over his royalties. This relates to the rapper Peacey P shown earlier in the episode.
* It could also refer to the misconception that [[Michael Jackson]] dangled his baby over a hotel balcony. (In actuall fact he just slanted the baby for a splt second.)
*When the policemen arrive, So and So thinks she is in legal trouble, but all the policemen want is to watch the fight on Pay-per-view. This is a take of a similar scene in [[Wikipedia:Homer vs. Lisa and the 8th Commandment|Homer vs. Lisa and the 8th Commandment]] when Eddie and Lou arrive to watch the fight on Homer's illegal cable hookup.
*The [[Wikipedia:PlayStation#PSone|PSOne]] is a smaller and redesigned version of the [[Wikipedia:PlayStation|PlayStation]] video game console, released by [[Wikipedia:Sony Computer Entertainment|Sony Computer Entertainment]] in 2000.
*"Ola Toya is fighting Camptown Jr. at Caesar's tonight" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:De_La_Hoya-Mayweather|De La Hoya-Mayweather Jr. Fight]] at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas in May 2007.
*[[Wikipedia:Harrah's Entertainment#Caesars brand|Caesars]] is a casino brand owned by [[Wikipedia:Harrah's Entertainment|Harrah's Entertainment]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:tgs13.html|watch "Teen Girl Squad Issue 13"]]
*[[HR:tgs13.swf|view the Flash file for "Teen Girl Squad Issue 13"]]
*[[Forum:11698|forum thread re: "Teen Girl Squad Issue 13"]]

{{Teen Girl Squad}}

[[Category:Teen Girl Squad]]

Teen Girl Squad Issue 13

24.34.71.97 — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:14:09 GMT

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{{tgsnav|13|Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_12|Issue 12|Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_1|Issue 1}}
[[Image:Tgs13.png|thumb|"Don't let Timkins play my PSone!"]]

[[So And So]] is baby-sitting, but her friends interrupt.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Tompkins}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Momkins|Momkins]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Timkins|Baby Timkins]], {{Film|So and So}}, [[Arrow'd Guy|Baby-Sat guy]][[Category: Arrow'd Guy Filmography]], {{Film|Cheerleader}}, {{Film|What's Her Face}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Buttcrack Plumber|Plumber]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Peacey P|Peacey P]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Olympic Man and Coach|Olympic Man]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Policemen|Policemen]]

'''Places:''' [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Tompkins's House|Tompkins's house]], [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Hotel Balcony|Hotel Balcony]]

'''Date:''' Monday, June 18th, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 3:25

'''Page Title:''' Bebe's Sitter's Kids!

==Transcript==
''{The toon opens with Tompkins playing his Game Boy with a silhouette of his mother waving to him. The Teen Girl Squad theme music plays.}''

'''TOMPKINS:''' Aww, peas Momkins. I don't need a babysitter.

''{Zoom out to reveal Momkins, a robot wearing cowboy boots and a hat and carrying a pickaxe, along with a baby.}''

'''TOMPKINS:''' I can watch baby Timkins while you go out prospecting for future ex-husbands.

'''MOMKINS:''' Whatevs little man. You can't even take care of your own virtual pet.

''{Cut to a closeup of the Game Boy screen, displaying a bloated pet and the text, "Food: 600%". Music stops}''

'''VIRTUAL PET:''' Please stop feeding me!

''{Music continues. Tompkins begins mashing the buttons on the Game Boy.}''

'''TOMPKINS:''' Teh heh heh heh heh.

''{Cut to Momkins standing next to the front door, which has a large, wrinkly face on it}''

'''FRONT DOOR:''' Ding dong. Ding dong, yo.

''{The door opens to reveal So and So, with fangs.}''

'''SO AND SO:''' Hello Mrs. Tompkinsrobotmom[[erson]]. I know I'm 3 hours early, but I wanted to...

'''MOMKINS:''' Listen, I'll be at a place until a time. My cell phone number is some numbers. The baby needs stuff. What's poison control? Punch Tompkins in the gut. Good luck.

''{Momkins rushes out the door with a crazed look on her face and her tongue hanging out of her mouth. Her hat flies off and So and So's hair is disheveled as she leaves.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' She gone!

''{Cut to So and So speaking to Tompkins, who is playing his Game Boy next to a clock. The clock reads 5:03}''

'''SO AND SO:''' ''{pointing to her watch}'' Alright Tompkins, it is WAY past your bedtime.

'''TOMPKINS:''' ''{pointing at a flustered So and So}'' Listen babysit, I don't need to be babysat. I'll be in my room reorganizing my trenchcoats.

''{As Tompkins leaves, a giant baby resembling the Arrow'd Guy lands on and crushes him. The music stops.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' BABY SAT!

'''TOMPKINS:''' Don't let Timkins play my PSone!!!!!

''{Cut to a Teen Girl Squad title screen, featuring Cheerleader (wearing a dress labeled "Ms. Thang"), The Ugly One, and What's Her Face smashing through a wall. "issue 13" and "by: strong bad" appear in the corners. The theme music plays.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Teen Girl Squad!!! Cheerleader! ''{$15/hour}'' What's Her Face! ''{$4.75/hour}'' The Ugly One! ''{plain yogurt/hour}''

''{Cut to So and So speaking to the other girls next to the smashed wall}''

'''SO AND SO:''' Not now, you guys. I'm babysitting.

''{Close up on Cheerleader}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Oh, we know how to babysit... ''{grows hypnotic eyes and fangs, and pulls out a cell phone and several volumes of "Dem Boys"}'' I'll call EACH AND EVERY BOY!!

''{Cut to What's Her Face}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' I'll eat all their food!

''{Cut to The Ugly One, wearing a crown and a ruffled collar, holding a remote}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Just call me the queen of pay-per-view! ''{throws off the crown and collar and pushes the remote buttons. The text "t.a.p.s." appears every time the buttons are pushed}'' I think Ola Toya is fighting Camptown Jr. at Caesar's tonight!

''{Cut back to shot of So and So talking to Cheerleader (holding the cell phone), What's Her Face and The Ugly One (holding the remote)}''

'''SO AND SO:''' SHHH! Keep it down! The baby is studying for the SAT.

''{Cut to baby Timkins, under a pile of four books labeled "babySAT"}''

'''TIMKINS:''' Goo goo is ga-ga. Wah wah is ga-ga. ''{raises finger}'' Are all goo goos wah wahs?

''{Cut to an annoyed Cheerleader, holding her cell phone. Her dress now reads "The future Ms. Thang".}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Dag! None of my regulars are picking up! Let's see who on my B-list!

''{The phone rings, and the screen splits to show a plumber answering the call on a plunger.}''

'''PLUMBER:''' Uh, Buttcrack Plumbing!

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Hi Randy! I'm babysittin' tonight. Wanna come over and sneak in through the back window?

'''PLUMBER:''' And this is for a how many gallon toilet, ma'am?

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Bring all your hot friends... they've got two pantries!!!

''{A toilet with a beret, a mustache, a goatee, and a loaf of french bread crushes Cheerleader with a plunger.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' EAU DE TOiLETTE!

'''CHEERLEADER:''' So dignified!

''{Cut to What's Her Face standing between the two pantries}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Wow! 2 pantries! I'll have me a diet soda I s'pose.

''{So and So enters, livid with a giant mouth and fangs.}''

'''SO AND SO:''' STOP! How many of those have you had?!?!

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' ''{annoyed}'' Uh, negative one sip.

''{So and So holds up a textbook entitled, "<s>urban legends</s> i mean health class"}''

'''SO AND SO:''' Don't you remember health class? You'll microwave the baby!!

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' ''{holding up a "Diet Brown" can}'' This is Diet Brown, not PCP.

''{The Ugly One slides into the room. What's Her Face and So and So look surprised.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Did somebody say Peacey P? I LOVES the Peacey P!

''{Cut to Peacey P, wearing a jersey labeled "☮y P" ("[Peace symbol]y P"), standing with Olympic Man (with a blurred jersey)}''

'''PEACEY P:''' Crample-o stow wha clamminuh whaow. My new album drop next sursdai. Ya'll biscuitheads.

''{The Ugly One enters with a ☮y ([Peace symbol]y) necklace, and a pencil and notepad.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Can a sista get an autograph?

''{Olympic Man dangles The Ugly One off a balcony}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' DANGLED OFF A HOTEL BALCONY'D!!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' That's it?

''{Zoom out as The Ugly One is dropped from the balcony into a "bayonet tailgate party"}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Uh, and then DROPPED FROM SAID HOTEL BALCONY'D!!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' That's better!

''{Cut to So and So holding a dirty diaper and yelling at baby Timkins}''

'''SO AND SO:''' What kinda dirty diaper is this?! I told you to alphabetize this stuff!

''{Cut to Front Door. A surprised So and So is leaning in, still holding the diaper}''

'''FRONT DOOR:''' BANG! BANG! BANG!

'''THE POLICE:''' ''{from behind the door}'' Open up! It's the police!

''{Cut to a terrified So and So jumping in the air, dropping the diaper}''

'''SO AND SO:''' AHH! THE POPO! I can't do another nickel!

''{So and So jumps into the kitchen sink as background music begins to play.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' GARBAGE DISPOSAL, 

''{Cut to a shot of the garbage disposal in the sink, with evil eyes and fangs}''

WHAT A WAY TO GO! 

''{Cut to a grinning So and So in the garbage disposal, dancing with a plate, a spoon, a piece of broccoli and a carrot.}''

GARBAGE DISPOSAL, 

''{All but So and So's arm disappears}''

MEET SO AND SO!

''{So and So's arm disappears. The plate, spoon, broccoli and carrot look surprised. Music stops and is replaced by the theme music. Cut to the Front Door, where What's Her Face has let two policemen into the house.}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Can I help you gentlemen?

'''POLICEMAN 1:''' Uh, yes, ma'am. We got a report of us wanting to watch the Ola Toya fight. You mind if we investigate?

'''POLICEMAN 2:''' ''{holding up a packet labeled "Snack Mix"}'' I brought snack mix.

''{Cut to a "confidential" envelope out of which three game cards are removed.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' The Snak Mix, in Tompkins' Parlor, WITH THE PRETZEL STICK!

''{Cut to a life-sized Snak Mix bag with a monocle, who clubs What's Her Face with a pretzel stick}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' OW! MY STYLE! (or lack thereof)

''{Cut to Momkins, the two policemen, and baby Timkins sitting on a couch watching TV}''

'''TV ANNOUNCER:''' ...anuddah vicious right!!!

'''POLICEMAN 1:''' I need to put an APB out on some microwave popcorn.

'''POLICEMAN 2:''' ''{looking at Momkins}'' I'd like to report a very good-looking robot prospector.

'''MOMKINS:''' Awww, shush!

''{Brief pause. The music stops}''

'''TIMKINS:''' ''{pointing at Policeman 1}'' You're not my real father!

''{Cut to the usual "It's over!" screen}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' It's over!

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Deliberance.PNG|thumb|Drops Next Sursdai!]]
*Click on the "O" at the end to see a promo for Peacey P's new album.
:''{The Crample-O Stow Records logo appears. The logo is a gold hand making a C shape in a gold circle. The logo shines a few times. Hip hop music plays in the background}''
:'''ANNOUNCER:''' Crample-O Stow Records presents...
:''{Peacey P's album appears}''
:'''ANNOUNCER:''' ..."Deliberance", the new album from Peacey P...
:''{As the announcer says the following words, they appear in yellow zig-zags}''
:'''ANNOUNCER:''' ...featuring: Large Craig, featuring: The Overripe MC, featuring: Tenerence Love, featuring: Akryllix & 3rd Lung, featuring: Peacey P!
:'''PEACEY P:''' I'm a guest star on my own album, ya'll biscuitheads!
:''{The words "Drops Next Sursdai!" appear in a red oval at the bottom. Music fades out.}''

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Phencyclidine|PCP]], also known as angel dust, is a recreational [[drug]].
*''[[Wikipedia:Perfume|Eau de Toilette]]'' is [[French]] for a light, low concentrate perfume. "Toilet(te)" is used in an obsolete sense in both English and French to refer to personal grooming, the same sense as "toiletry".
*APB stands for [[Wikipedia:all points bulletin|all points bulletin]], a broadcast issued from one law enforcement agency to another, typically containing information about a wanted suspect.
*The [[Wikipedia:SAT|SAT Reasoning Test]] is a test that is frequently taken prior to entry into college in America and at primary school in the UK.
**Timkins's line "Goo goo is ga-ga. Wah wah is ga-ga. Are all goo goos wah wahs?" is a [[Wikipedia:Syllogism|syllogism]] of the form "All X are Y. All Z are Y. Are all X Z?" (the correct answer is "not necessarily"). Syllogisms were previously used on the SAT, but were removed in the new edition of the SAT.
*A "nickel" is slang for a 5-year prison sentence.
*Olympic Man's jersey is blurred because trademarked logos on clothing are often obscured by the producers of television or music videos when they don't want the logos visible in the final product.

===Trivia===
*This is the first Teen Girl Squad issue to use a [[Wikipedia:Cold open|cold open]] instead of starting immediately with the opening title sequence.
*This is the first TGS issue since issue #7 in which Strong Bad does not work a variation of himself into the comic.

===Remarks===
*The '2 pantries' are actually one pantry with a reverse image next to it.

===Goofs===
*The "Loading" frames are not rounded at the corners.
*Tompkins is misspelled as "Tomkins" on the [[TV Time Toons Menu|Toons menu]] description.
*Once the police officer starts talking to What's Her Face, a line appears near the doorknob.

===Fixed Goofs===
*Tompkins's name was misspelled as "Tomkins" through the entire toon, except in the Snack Mix sequence ("Tompkins' Parlor").
*When Cheerleader was telling the plumber to sneak in through the back window, the text read "the through," while she said "through the."

===Inside References===
*What's Her Face comments about the loss of her [[style]].
*When Tompkins pushes the buttons on his [[Nintendo|Game Boy]] to feed his virtual pet, the text [[Mashing Go|"m.a.s.h."]] appears.
*So and So saying "I can't do another nickel!" is in reference to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]] when So and So was in jail for shoplifting.
*Tompkins's mom's name ends with [[Names ending in -erson|-erson]].
*This issue contains several words or phrases ending in [['d]].
*"Deliberance" is a [[portmanteau]].

===Real-World References===
*Tompkins's virtual pet resembles a [[Wikipedia:Tamagotchi|Tamagotchi]].
*Peacey P's name resembles either [[Wikipedia:Eazy E|Eazy E]] or [[Wikipedia:Percee P|Percee P]], and his voice and singing style are very similar to [[Wikipedia:Snoop Dogg|Snoop Dogg]].
*So and So's line "You'll microwave the baby!!" and the book of urban legends she is holding reference the urban legend of a stoned babysitter [[Snopes:horrors/drugs/babysitter.asp|mistaking a baby for a roast]], and accidentally putting it in the oven (or microwave, in some versions).
*The lines about the Snack Mix prior to What's Her Face's demise are based on the board game [[Wikipedia:Cluedo|Clue]]. The picture of the Snack Mix on the card resembles Clue character [[Wikipedia:Cluedo_characters|Colonel Mustard]] .
*The title of the short is a reference to comedian [[Wikipedia:Robin Harris|Robin Harris's]] "Bébé's Kids" stand-up comedy act. After his death, his routine was adapted into a movie, also called [[Wikipedia:Bebe's Kids|"Bébé's Kids"]], the first animated feature with a majority African-American cast.
*"Ding dong. Ding dong, yo." is a memorable line from the video for [[Wikipedia:Fat (song)|"Fat"]] by [[Wikipedia:"Weird Al" Yankovic|"Weird Al" Yankovic]].
*Dangling The Ugly One over the balcony is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Vanilla Ice|Vanilla Ice's]] claim that rap record producer [[Wikipedia:Suge Knight|Marion "Suge" Knight]] hung him up upside down on a hotel balcony in order to get Vanilla Ice to turn over his royalties. This relates to the rapper Peacey P shown earlier in the episode.
* It could also refer to the misconception that [[Michael Jackson]] dangled his baby over a hotel balcony. (In actuall fact he just slanted the baby for a splt second.)
*When the policemen arrive, So and So thinks she is in legal trouble, but all the policemen want is to watch the fight on Pay-per-view. This is a take of a similar scene in [[Wikipedia:Homer vs. Lisa and the 8th Commandment|Homer vs. Lisa and the 8th Commandment]] when Eddie and Lou arrive to watch the fight on Homer's illegal cable hookup.
*The [[Wikipedia:PlayStation#PSone|PSOne]] is a smaller and redesigned version of the [[Wikipedia:PlayStation|PlayStation]] video game console, released by [[Wikipedia:Sony Computer Entertainment|Sony Computer Entertainment]] in 2000.
*"Ola Toya is fighting Camptown Jr. at Caesar's tonight" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:De_La_Hoya-Mayweather|De La Hoya-Mayweather Jr. Fight]] at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas in May 2007.
*[[Wikipedia:Harrah's Entertainment#Caesars brand|Caesars]] is a casino brand owned by [[Wikipedia:Harrah's Entertainment|Harrah's Entertainment]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:tgs13.html|watch "Teen Girl Squad Issue 13"]]
*[[HR:tgs13.swf|view the Flash file for "Teen Girl Squad Issue 13"]]
*[[Forum:11698|forum thread re: "Teen Girl Squad Issue 13"]]

{{Teen Girl Squad}}

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User talk:Shwoo

24.34.71.97 — Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:52:01 GMT

24.34.71.97: confirming

'''[[User talk:Shwoo/archive1|Archive Page(1-14)]]'''
== Thanks ==
Hey Shwoo. Thanks for reverting all that vandalism this morning. High fives! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:27, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
:No probalo. I'm just glad they got bored before I went to bed. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 00:50, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey Shwoo. Thanks for helping remove the subtitle language declarations. You rock! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

== Whoo! I admit it WAS tough! ==

Man, sooo many overlapping lines...... Why don't you handle the next SBEmail? I still will be in check for errors, etc... And stuff. --About to watch [[wikipedia:Heroes (TV series)|Heroes]], [[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 04:53, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
:Okay, I will. That scene with the forum looked like it was really irritating to do. I'm sorry about the message I left on your talk page. I was... stressed. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 04:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah I admit the apostrophe's too close to the Enter key for this one. It happened to me too! --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 15:09, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

==Fix running time==
*I see you fixed many running times on toons. Now you have to fix [[Strong Bad Email By Length]] as well! Because I must leave at this moment. {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 13:37, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
::I fixed Strong Bad Email by Length first, a while ago. I only remembered to fix the actual pages when [[User:Dacheatbot|Dacheatbot]] changed the running time of [[flashback]] because it was inconsistant with the page. But thanks for thinking to remind me. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 01:54, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

== [[:Image:TownMeetingTalkPage.PNG|Town Meeting]] ==

I gotta tell ya, that image is just brilliant! I actually laughed out loud (after searching up and down the logs and recent changes to see if someone actually made the page, and then actually reading it...) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:04, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
:I giggled like a girl when I saw it :-P{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
::Heh, thanks. I couldn't resist. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 01:20, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Is that even real? I mean, [[Town Meeting]] doesn't exist. Anyway, you're adhering to what the characters do in various places of the site (especially [[Homestar's Website]]), right? --risked skepticism, [[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 15:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
:I'm not sure what you're asking, but I made it off Loafing's comment in [[Talk:unnatural]], that the town meeting sounds like one of the talk pages here. I made the comments in the Sandbox, took a screenshot, and edited it in MSpaint.{{User:Shwoo/sig}} 02:31, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

== And now I have to come to you for this?! ==

[[Image:Wikistress3D_3_v3.jpg|50px]]
"If you can do that, can I claim the subtitles for the next toon...? ...I really want to do one again."

Why aren't you looking at [[Subtitles:tgs12/en]]??? --Pretty stressed and also because the browser won't open the darn preview when I want it to, [[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 23:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
:I was in class today, and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12]] came out kind of late for me to do the subtitles before going to bed. I prefer to wait a little while anyway. It gives time for the kinks to be worked out of the transcripts, so nobody has to make ten thousand corrections to the subtitle script. There's no hurry. Anyway, I'll do them in a second. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 02:30, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

And now you are forgetting to note this down on your user page? [[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 00:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, I did forget. Thanks for reminding me. It was one of those only-remembering-to-do-something-when-you-don't-have-access-to-a-computer things. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 00:17, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

== Happy Birthday! ==

Happy Birthday, Shwoo! Maybe Larry will serenade you now that you're an of-age lady. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:17, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

:Age! -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:25, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

::Thanks! {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 05:32, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes, Happy Birthday from me, too. I'd offer to serenade you myself, but (1) I don't think I can project across the Pacific, (2) all my songs are in German and thus probably wouldn't make much sense to you anyway. ;-) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:37, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Get well soon! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:38, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Woo-hoo, Shwoo. Woo-hoo. I'm almost cought up with you. I only have -1 years to go! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:43, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::Oooh, I'm late! Is still some of the birthday cake left? Happy congraturations! :-D{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Happy Shwoo Day! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Hey ==

Yes that was me. I apreciate your apologies and thank you. MJN SEIFER 12:50, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:MJN_SEIFER"
:Yeah, I saw that. I just couldn't think of anything else to say. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 05:29, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

It's ok mate [[User:MJN SEIFER|MJN SEIFER]] 16:39, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== Isn't it cool? ==

I have Asperger's Syndrome too! [[User:68.205.128.200|68.205.128.200]]
:Yeah, it is. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 23:28, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

== Would you... ==

Would you like to join the Strong Bad Allegiance? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}}
:What exactly is it? {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 00:40, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

I had no idea how to add pictures before! thanks!
:No problem. By the way, you should also sign your name with four tildes, like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 13:15, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
how? heh...like i said, i just got my acount today...sorry for all the questions! my username is ''haldo''
AWESOME! I think i figued it out![[User:24.34.71.97|24.34.71.97]] 01:52, 17 June 2007 (UTC){{user:haldo}}

User talk:Haldo

24.34.71.97 — Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:49:22 GMT

24.34.71.97: Trying to figue out the system

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== Weclome! ==

[[Unusual Greetings#Weclome|Weclome]] to the wiki, [[Unusual Greetings#Haldo|Haldo]]! I like your username by the way — [[Peasant's Quest]] is great. In fact, that's how I found the wiki: I was looking for a walkthrough for the game. Anyways, I hope you enjoy your time here, and if you have any questions, feel free to stop by my talk page. Welcome again! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 12:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

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Welcome and great to see a new user working on the wiki. Note the little helpful hints above - there are a LOT of links and while there's no test tomorrow, you'd do well to check them all out. Note the <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> part - end every talk post with that, and you'll be on your way to wikiing like a pro. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:37, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank You! like this?[[User:24.34.71.97|24.34.71.97]] 01:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC){{user:haldo}}

User:Haldo

24.34.71.97 — Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:41:58 GMT

24.34.71.97: adding a clearify-er

Haldo, everyone! I'm new here, but i love homestarrunner.com! i hope to do a lot here. Yes, I'm the one that wrote "cute the cheat forms". bye for now!

User talk:Shwoo

24.34.71.97 — Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:39:22 GMT

24.34.71.97: asking Shwoo another question...sorry

Talk:Edgar

24.34.71.97 — Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:32:12 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* HELP! */

How is this a computer? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:Who said it was a computer? It is in the Computer category, but that doesn't mean it is a computer. If you have a better idea, please feel free to share it here.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:31, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Oh, Uh, a category for computer programs. Temple of Ashphai, this, edgar junior, internet, {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

:::[[Edgar#Edga Jr.|Edga Jr.]] is in the same Computers category. And we don't have articles for the Internet or Temple of Apshai.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:44, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::::What exactly would we put in the Internet entry, anyway? [http://zomginternet.ytmnd.com/ This?] --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 18:18, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Edgaware Merge ==
I'm thinking the two other forms of Edgaware should be moved here... they each only appeared once and this way they could be classed together as a single running gag. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 00:37, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:''(originally posted on Talk:Edgar's Baby's Daddy)'' I think that [[Edgar]] has become a running gag. Furthermore I suggest that all three of the Edgar references be combined onto one page (since the individual programs probably won't be heard from again, but the theme is constant). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:38, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
::I completely agree. Edgar must be a popular, if not often used, brand of software in Free Country. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Edgar's Baby's Daddy ==
Is my browser the only one that has a problem viewing the Edgar's Baby's Daddy table? (And I mean the text version, not the image.) The image inside the table kinda messes it up for me. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:29, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:What's your browser? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:30, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::Netscape. ''{cringes}'' {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:31, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:::'''EDIT:''' Yeah, I tried fixing it. No work. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 21:31, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Mozilla. ''{doesn't cringe.}'' {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 21:33, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Do you have to run Netscape? Try Firefox if you can. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:39, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::It looks weird in Firefox. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 21:44, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Wait, why not just remove the image? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 21:44, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::::For real. We don't have images on any of the other text representations on the site, and there's the actual image just off to the right. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:49, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::If it doesn't work and can't be made to work for users, then it should be removed here and on [[candy product|the other page]] too. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:54, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Odd, it renders just fine here on IE, Firefox and Opera. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Odd, it doesn't render fine in Firefox. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 22:31, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Here's a screenshot of my view in FireFox:

(Image:Edgar demo screenshot.png - no longer relevant)

{{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:34, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, the picture is messing up the text. The top now looks much different than the reaql version. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 22:35, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

How's it now? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

:Much better! {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 22:40, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

::I reckon it would be better to just kill the image entirely... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:55, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

:::Now it's not messed up for me anymore. Though there's still the possibility that someone won't be seeing it correctly. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:46, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

== Linux version ==

[http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~prb102/junk/edgarware.exe.txt Edgarware] as a shell/Perl script: I knocked this up shortly after the "Virus" mail was released, and it's installed on the Linux systems in the computer science department at the University of Southampton. Don't know if it belongs here, on the episode node, on the "School Sightings" node, or nowhere at all.--[[User:81.86.106.14|81.86.106.14]] 02:00, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps [[HRFWiki:|the fanstuff wiki]] would be a good place to put it... It is quite a good recreation. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:29, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
::yer right, that did crash horribly on non-ANSI terminals --[[User:71.204.12.60|71.204.12.60]] 03:10, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Edga Jr. ==

Edga Jr. reminds me of Red Herring from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Pup_Named_Scooby-Doo A Pup Named Scooby Doo].

[http://www.geocities.com/scooby_planet/redherring.jpg This] is the best picture I could find. He had the same red hair,and freckles.
:I think curly red hair and freckles are often used for troublemaker types. I remember one from a book from decades past named Eddie, who was a red haired rapscalli...wag. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Edga Circle ==
Edga's Baby's Daddy would be Edga. Should this be noted... or at least that this is a play on the phrase "Baby Daddy?" [[User:DemolitionSquid|DemolitionSquid]] 04:22, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:I dunno. The remark has been in and out of wiki existence. There's also a duscussion [[Talk:candy_product#Another_Edgar.27s_Baby.27s_Daddy_redundancy|here]], but it doesn't do a whole lot. It wouldn't have anything to do with "baby daddy" reference since Edgar's Baby's Daddy = Edgar is the more likely joke. Then, it boils down to: is this a "YOUR JOKE A SPLANED"? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:32, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

== Could someone (or Simone) get rid of... ==

Can someone get rid of one of the pictures of Edga's Baby's Daddy? It's redundant.-[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 14:11, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

== Two'd! ==

Why are there two versions of each splash screen visible? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:00, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
:A picture should never replace text in a wiki. The text version is there so it's more easily searchable. The picture helps show its actuality and show any graphics included in it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 23:02, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

== HELP! ==

I'm new here! I don't know how to add pictures to artitles!
:Type <nowiki>[[image:(name of image)]]</nowiki>. Example: <nowiki>[[Image:qod 1 - homestar.PNG]]</nowiki> becomes [[Image:qod 1 - homestar.PNG]] . {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 12:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
I still have one question...how do you know what an image is called?
:Click on it. The title of the page is the name of the image. You do have to find it first, though. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 13:16, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
i know i've already said this, but thank you '''SO''' much, Shwoo!

Teen Girl Squad Issue 11

24.34.71.97 — Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:00:55 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* Transcript */ it said "...So and So looks satisfed..." i added "...and somewhat smug"

{{tgsnav|11|Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_10|Issue 10|Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_12|Issue 12}}

[[Image:TeenGirlSquad11.PNG|200px|thumb|"We'll try to miss you!!!"]]

Cheerleader, What's Her Face, and The Ugly One go to summer camp while So and So gets a part-time job.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Cheerleader}}, {{Film|So and So}}, {{Film|What's Her Face}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Grim Reaper|Grim Reaper]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Shirt Folding Store Manager|Shirt Folding Store Manager]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Astronaut|Astronaut]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Raccoon Girl|Raccoon Girl]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Customer|Customer]], [[Science Fiction Greg and D N'D Greg#D N'D Greg|D N'D Greg]], [[Science Fiction Greg and D N'D Greg#Science Fiction Greg|Science Fiction Greg]], {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Tentacle Camera|Tentacle Camera]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Camp Counselor Shortshorts|Camp Counselor Shortshorts]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Chumbly Wumbly Bear|Chumbly Wumbly Bear]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Maniac In A Speedo|Maniac In A Speedo]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#C-dogg and Naptime|C-dogg and Naptime]]

'''Places:''' [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Bus stop|Bus stop]], [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Firstbasawassa|Firstbasawassa]], [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#The Mall|The Mall]], [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Cosplayover Camp|Cosplayover Camp]], [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Jail|Jail]]

'''Date:''' Monday, July 17, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:32

'''Page Title:''' Eleven Division Titles!

==Transcript==

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Teen Girl Squad! Cheerleader! ''{cell phone!}'' So and So! ''{pager!}'' What's Her Face! ''{rotary phone!}'' The Ugly One! ''{geiger counter!}''

''{The episode begins with all four girls standing together with three rolled-up sleeping bags by their feet.}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Don't look now, ladies, but... Camp Firstbasawassa's gonna be the bombier than ever now that they've installed...

'''ALL:''' WORKING TOILET PAPER!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' ''{nostalgically}'' I'm gonna miss the oak leaves.

''{Close up on So and So}''

'''SO AND SO:''' I can't go this year. ''{sticking tongue out}'' Judith is making me get a summer job at Shirt Folding Store.

''{Cut back to all four girls}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Your stepmoms is teh fascist.

''{Cut to So and So waving goodbye to Cheerleader, What's Her Face, and The Ugly One, who are being driven away on a Firstbasawassa bus.}''

'''CHEERLEADER, THE UGLY ONE:''' ''{no speech bubble}'' Bye!

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' We'll try to miss you!

''{A giant Grim Reaper appears in front of the bus, holding a hamburger.}''

'''GRIM REAPER:''' Forbode... ''{suddenly biting hamburger}'' Chomp!

''{Cut to So and So at the Folding Mills Mall.}''

'''SO AND SO:''' I love the mall! I wish the mall could be my ringtone.

''{A large, magazine cut-and-paste style Shirt Folding Store Manager appears in front of So and So. So and So appears terrified}''

'''SHIRT FOLDING STORE MANAGER:''' ''{shouting}'' WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? GET BACK TO WORK! A KID PUKED IN DRESSING ROOM 3!

''{Cut to So and So}''

'''SO AND SO:''' But it's my first day and I'm—

'''SHIRT FOLDING STORE MANAGER:''' ''{interrupting; holding up large name tag labeled Mark}'' HERE'S YOUR NAMETAG, MARK! NOW GET TO MINIMUM WAGIN'!

''{An astronaut suddenly appears and punches Shirt Folding Store Manager, So and So looks satisfied and somewhat smug}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' MEET A FIST!

'''ASTRONAUT:''' Ckhk. She killed my dog. ''{Shirt Folding Store Manager falls over}''

'''SO AND SO:''' Um... ''{The word 'Um' moves to the right of the speech bubble}'' 'kay.

'''ASTRONAUT:''' ''{suddenly appearing with a cape and flies away}'' Ckhk. Da da da DA!

''{Intertitle Guy displays the intertitle "MEANWHILE at summer camp"}''

''{Cheerleader, What's Her Face, and The Ugly One are standing by a bunk-bed and sleeping bags. Cheerleader is wearing reading glasses and examining a script.}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Does "ugs" have one "g" or two?

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' ''{holds up two fingers}'' The deuce.

'''CHEERLEADER:''' ''{tossing script away; reading glasses disappear}'' Alright, uggs, since So and So's not here this year, ''{What's Her Face and The Ugly One appear pleasantly surprised}'' you're bunkin' with me ''{points at The Ugly One, while What's Her Face looks surprised}''! I'll take snoring over night terrors any day.

''{Cheerleader and The Ugly One put arms over one another's shoulders.}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Then who's sharing my bunk?

''{Cut to the right side of What's Her Face, who is suddenly beside an emaciated, feminine raccoon standing on its hind legs, carrying a handbag, and wearing a skirt and bow. What's Her Face looks surprised.}''

'''RACCOON GIRL:''' Hiya, bunkmate. Do you love me?

''{Cut to So and So at a folding station. A customer stands beside her.}''

'''CUSTOMER:''' Uh, excuse me, M-Mark.... I'm looking for a *COUGH!* present for my *COUGH!* wife for our *COUGH!*-iversary.

'''SO AND SO:''' ''{appears love-struck and drools}'' A coughiversary?! How roman-

'''CUSTOMER:''' ''{interrupting}'' *COUGHCOUGHCOUGH!*

''{Coughs out what appears to be a miniature baseball stadium.}''

'''ANNOUNCER IN BASEBALL STADIUM:''' ...and it's a double play!

''{Fireworks appear.}''

'''FANS IN BASEBALL STADIUM:''' Yaaaay!

'''CUSTOMER:''' ''{pointing at stadium}'' That's not my wife.

'''SO AND SO:''' Um... ''{The word 'Um' moves to the right of the speech bubble even more so than before}'' 'kay.

''{Cut to Cheerleader and The Ugly One in a canoe with the words "Canoe Reeves" on it.}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Boys are an important part of life. 
'''THE UGLY ONE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Canoes are an important part of life.

''{The canoe lands on a patch of land with a sign "Them Boys"}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Alright, uggs, pretty up! You my wingman! ''{jumps into the air}'' Now let's go get us some boys camp!

''{Cut to Cosplayover camp}''

'''D N'D GREG:''' ''{dressed as a medieval swordsman}'' Welcome, fair maidens, to our fair village.

'''SCIENCE FICTION GREG:''' ''{dressed futuristically}'' I think you mean... welcome, earthlings, to our fair star system.

''{Cut to D N'D Greg and Science Fiction Greg}''

'''D N'D GREG:''' Village!

'''SCIENCE FICTION GREG:''' Star system!

''{Cut closer}''

'''D N'D GREG:''' BEHOLDERS!

'''SCIENCE FICTION GREG:''' SENTIENT NEBULAE!

'''CHEERLEADER:''' ''{appearing}'' Ai-ai-ai-ai-ya! I thought this was Coach Conrad's Sit-Up Camp For Shirtless Boys!

'''SCIENCE FICTION GREG:''' ''{seductively; removing shirt}'' Oh, I can take my shirt off....

''{Science Fiction Greg pulls his shirt up to just under his shoulders; a "voip" eminates from his bare chest and hits Cheerleader.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' BLINDING VOIP!

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Ahh! My tan lines!

''{Cut to So and So at her folding booth}''

'''SO AND SO:''' ''{holds up shirt}'' This shirt is trés cutée!

''{So and So thinks while Strong Bad appears as a leprechaun, "SHOPLiFTiNG?!?" appears on the folding station, and a security camera with tentacles floats in from the right.}''

'''LEPRECHAUN STRONG BAD:''' Oooh.... Sho-o-oplifting?

''{Cut to The Ugly One and What's Her Face standing by Camp Counselor Shortshorts.}''

'''CAMP COUNSELOR SHORTSHORTS:''' Okay, girls, I'm Camp Counselor Shortshorts. Now before you ask "Who's this square?", listen to this: ''{bends knees, throws hands in the air}'' SCHA-WING! ''{points at girls}'' NOT! ''{jumps in the air}'' WHO LET THE DOGS OUT!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Buh-

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' -arf.

''{Guitar music begins to play}''

'''CAMP COUNSELOR SHORTSHORTS:''' Now let's fellowship the pants off this place with a warbly campsong!

''{Cut to What's Her Face, The Ugly One, and Camp Counselor Shortshorts by a campfire. Camp Counselor Shortshorts is playing a guitar.}''

'''ALL:''' ''{singing}'' And the chumbly wumbly bear came a-tumblin' down....

''{Cut to a bear selling beans}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' ''{voiceover}'' Did he sell beans?

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' ''{extreme close up}'' Lord no!

''{Cut back to the campfire}''

'''ALL:''' Did he sell eggs?

''{Cut to a bear selling eggs, which is immediately crossed out}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' ''{voiceover}'' Lord no!

''{Cut back to the campfire}''

'''ALL:''' ''{singing}'' But he couldn't and he wouldn't and he shouldn't so he stapled it down! ''{one gets really, '''really''' high-pitched}''

''{Suddenly, a muscular man with a paper bag over his head and wearing a Speedo appears with a chainsaw and cuts everyone into pieces.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' MANIAC IN A SPEEDO'D!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' I love summer camp!

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' ''{overlapping}'' Oh, the memories!

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' It's over!

''{Cut to So and So in a jail, with stubble on her face.}''

'''SO AND SO:''' C-dogg, Naptime, don't make the same mistakes I did. You guys are young. You got your whole lives ahead of you. Me? I'm looking at life plus whenever my step-mom picks me up.

'''C-DOGG / NAPTIME:''' Dag, yo.

'''SO AND SO:''' Hey, Rubble D! Where my smokes at?

''{return to the IT'S OVER! screen}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*At the end, click on the "O" to see What's Her Face with her bunkmate.
:'''RACCOON GIRL:''' Bunkmate, can you help give me these ''{nine syringes appear in the raccoon's hand. What's Her Face appears shocked.}'' seventeen shots before I go into a coma?

== Fun Facts ==

=== Explanations ===
*A [[Wikipedia:Geiger counter|Geiger counter]] measures ionizing radiation.
*"Nebulae" is the plural term for [[Wikipedia:Nebula|nebula]], a cloud of dust and other debris in space where stars form.
*The name "Camp Firstbasawassa" is a reference to summer camps that are named after [[Wikipedia:Native Americans|Native American]] [[Wikipedia:Category:Native_American_tribes|tribes]].
*"Night terrors" are a form of [[Wikipedia:sleep_disorder|sleep disorder]], in which an individual experiences extreme terror during sleep, and a temporary inability to regain full consciousness. Unlike [[Wikipedia:nightmares|nightmares]], night terror episodes are not caused by the perception of a scary event or situation, but a combination of the fear instinct itself and tension or anxiety.
*Evening bonfire gatherings at summer camps in the United States traditionally include singing nonsensical songs (often accompanied by a guitar) followed by the telling of spooky stories (often involving a killer with a chainsaw).
*In this context, a [[Wikipedia:Wingman (social)|wingman]] is a person who assists a friend in approaching a member of the opposite sex.
*A rotary phone is a phone that uses a dial instead of pushbuttons.

=== Trivia ===
[[Image:Mary-Kate.jpg|thumb|100px|Olsen Twin'd!!]]
*This is the first Teen Girl Squad episode to feature realistic background paper.
*This is arguably the first Teen Girl Squad episode without the [[Arrow'd Guy]] (see [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Mrs. So-and-so-erson|Mrs. So-and-so-erson]]).
*The Shirt Folding Store Manager's hair and face come from an [http://mmm-mag.hollywood.com/ M Magazine] article about [[Wikipedia:Mary-Kate Olsen|Mary-Kate Olsen]]. The manager is also wearing pink [[Chuck Taylor All-Stars]].
*So And So asking for "smokes" is another reference to [[smoking]].
**It's also a real-world reference regarding the stereotype that most prison inmates smoke and use cigarettes as a form of currency.
*The baseball team on the field in the stadium that the [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Customer|Customer]] coughs up only has eight players. The [[Wikipedia:Shortstop|shortstop]] is missing, and the [[Wikipedia: First baseman|first baseman]] is standing in foul territory.

=== Remarks ===
*The customer addresses So and So as "Mark" even though she is not wearing the name tag.
*Passengers in a canoe do not face each other as Cheerleader and The Ugly One do.
*Until the screen where Sci-Fi Greg begins to remove his shirt, his outfit seems to be one piece.
*"Trés Cutée" is a mock-French expression. "Trés" (with the ''accent aigu'') is a misspelling of the French word "très" (with the ''accent grave''), which means "very". "Cutée" is not a real French word. It is the English word "cute" made to look like a feminine adjective in French.
*The speech bubble indicates that Camp Counselor Shortshorts is singing along during the "Chumbly Wumbly Bear" song, but he is not heard singing.
[[Image:Onepixel.png|thumb|150px|A slight misalignment]]

===Glitches===
*The notebook paper in the frame of the toon and outside of the frame do not match up.
**This also happens in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 12|issue 12]].

=== Inside References ===
*"Camp Firstbasawassa" is a reference to [[Making Out|first base]].
*The song mentions selling [[eggs]].
*The prison inmate's line, "Dag, yo," was previously said by What's Her Face after being punted in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]].
*"Shop lifting?" is the intro to What's Her Face in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]].
*This is another instance of [[Killing Dogs|killing someone's dog]].

=== Real-World References ===
*The page title "11 Division Titles!" likely refers to the [[Wikipedia:Atlanta Braves|Atlanta Braves]], who, at the time of the toon, had won 11 consecutive [[Wikipedia:National League East|National League East]] division titles.
*Canoe Reeves is a reference to the actor [[Wikipedia:Keanu Reeves|Keanu Reeves]].
*"[[wikipedia:Schwing|Scha-wing!]]" and "[[wikipedia:Not!|Not!]]" are catchphrases from the 1992 film ''[[IMDB:Wayne's World|Wayne's World]]''.
*"[[wikipedia:Who Let the Dogs Out?|Who Let the Dogs Out?]]" is a song written by [[wikipedia:Anslem Douglas|Anslem Douglas]], but was made popular by the [[Wikipedia:Baha Men|Baha Men]] in 2000. Both references (along with the short shorts) make Camp Counselor Shortshorts seem hopelessly out-of-touch.
*''Folding Mills Mall'' is a reference to the many "Mills" malls around the USA, run by the [http://www.themills.com Mills Corporation], such as ''Concord Mills'' in North Carolina, or ''Potomac Mills'' in Virginia.
*[[wikipedia:Cosplay|Cosplay]] is a Japanese subculture centered on dressing as characters from manga, anime, [[Wikipedia:Tokusatsu|tokusatsu]], and video games, and, less commonly, Japanese live action television shows, fantasy movies, or Japanese pop music bands.
*Science Fiction Greg's clothing and prop are reminiscent of a [[wikipedia:Star Trek: The Next Generation|Star Trek: The Next Generation]] uniform and a [[wikipedia:Weapons of Star Trek|phaser]].
*[[wikipedia:Beholder|Beholders]] are a type of monster prevalent in the [[wikipedia:Dungeons & Dragons|Dungeons & Dragons]] role-playing game series.
*Camp Counselor Shortshorts' shirt, which reads "Got Camp?" is a reference to the famous U.S. Dairy Board slogan "[[Wikipedia:Got Milk?|Got Milk?]]".
*Campers being killed by maniacs is likely a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Friday the 13th (film series)|"Friday the 13th" film series]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:tgs11.html|watch "Teen Girl Squad Issue 11"]]
*[[HR:tgs11.swf|view the Flash file for "Teen Girl Squad Issue 11"]]
*[[Forum:9136|forum thread re: "Teen Girl Squad Issue 11"]]
*[[Podstar:TGS11.m4v|download "Teen Girl Squad Issue 11" for the iPod]] (see [[Podstar Runner]])

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Talk:Happy T!

24.34.71.97 — Sat, 16 Jun 2007 16:53:05 GMT

24.34.71.97: /* Haldo! Y'know whats weird? */

The reason I removed Homsar's "(easter egg)" is because I see all of the characters' messages as easter eggs. Understand? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 10:32, 31 Mar 2005 (MST)

WRONG!!

== Yes it is. ==

No, I don't. Homsar's is hidden, whereas the character messages were the main part of the thing. Geez, can't ya tell an easter egg from a feature?

== Not what I meant ==

When I added<blockquote>If the Happy T flash is overlayed over the Main Page (like the [[Quote of the Week]], etc. are) then the clickable area lines up with the curved part in the bottom right of the frame.</blockquote>I wasn't saying it as a way to find it, rather a reason why it's in the place that it is. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:08, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Move?==

I just realized, this should probably be "Happy T!" instead of "Happy T". Any objections to a move? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:49, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
:Not at all. I was just about to suggest the same thing. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::There's less than 15 links here too. We could drag GrapeNuts into it, but I don't think he's even got around to those other two moves I did recently, so we may as well just manually fix 'em. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:59, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
::Oooh, on second thought let's not be hasty. The big question is, should it be "Happy T!", or "HAPPY T!"? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
:::All caps is obnoxious. I say it should me moved to "Happy T!". — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 06:32, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, do you know how many internet etiquette laws you'd be breaking by typing in all caps like that? Well, you'd be breaking one: Don't type in all caps. Seriously, though, "Happy T!" is fine. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::'''Move''' to "Happy T!" {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 06:37, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
::::::'''Moved''' to "Happy T!". {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:39, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

== Haldo! Y'know whats weird? ==

On the flash file, if you press "tap" to go thu all the letters, it goes, "H...A...P...P...Y...!...T" Isn't that weird? Seriously, go ahead and try it!

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