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User talk:Some HSR themed username

2005-07-11T13:40:17Z

fahooglewitz1077:

== STUFF testing ==
Some HSR themed username, we are [[HRWiki:stuff test index|testing]] the new format. Come see how it works. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 09:18, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:OK. I'm a little more busy today than I thought I would be but I'll try to get some testiong done. --[[User:Some HSR themed username|<nowiki>~~~</nowiki>]] 11:43, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Signature ==

If you're going to make your signature "<nowiki>~~~</nowiki>", then you need to put "nowiki" tags on each side of it. You see, everytime someone edits a page with your sig in it, the <nowiki>"~~~"</nowiki> in you sig is replaced with the editers sig. This is what your sig needs to look like: 
<nowiki>[[User:Some HSR themed username|<nowiki>~~~</nowiki></nowiki>]]. 
This won't change the way it looks at all. Thanks. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 18:35, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I noticed that yesterday, but I thought I changed it. I'll make sure it works this time. [[User:Some HSR themed username|<nowiki>~~~</nowiki>]] 18:40, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Test sig <strike>[[User:Some HSR themed username|Some[[image:small_logo.png]]themed username]]</strike>

:Cool. Thanks. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 18:44, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Your signature needs to be your name, not <tt><nowiki>~~~</nowiki></tt>, especially in votes. We shouldn't have to follow a link to find out who someone is. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:29, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:You can <strike>just</strike> hover over it to make my username appear, or check the destination link at the bottom if you don't want to follow the link. I also think that if I always use this then <strike>eventually</strike> it will become synonymous with my username, plus it's a lot shorter. If you still want me to change it then I guess I will. [[User:Some HSR themed username|<nowiki>~~~</nowiki>]] <strike>19:35</strike>, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::If you want to change your name to an unpronouncable symbol à la Prince, be my guest, but you shouldn't choose something that's already reserved by the system software. It's confusing and, as you've already found out, has the potential for bugs. A suggestion for a short form of your name: "HSR username". Just a thought. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 4 Jul 2005 (UTC)

{{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 
Thank you to Rainer for helping me get this together. This should solve everybody's problems. (with my signature anyway. No promises about all of your personal issues.) {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 04:06, 5 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Ooh, that's snazzy! I like that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:35, 5 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::''Very'' cool sig. [[User:single deuce|single deuce]] 00:41, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::Thanks guys!/<strike>gals!</strike>/<strike>guy and gal!</strike> {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 14:14, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::''(It's definitely not the second one in that list. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]])''
::::''(While I was at it (read: goofing off at work), I checked [[User:single deuce|single deuce's page]], and he's a he, too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] ...Oh, and you're welcome for the thanks you gave there above.)''
Just needed to cover my bases, plus, I enjoy using strikethrough. Maybe too much. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 17:05, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:<s>Yeah, I know what you mean. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]</s> No, really.

== Thanks ==
Thank you for the info on da tildes--[[User:Styles Upon Styles|Styles Upon Styles]] 01:59, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:No probalo, we all have to start somewhere. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 02:02, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I THOUGHT THAT I WAS HOPELESS {{User:Rogue Leader.sig}}
:Again, no probalo. Finally looking good! {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 02:01, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Troll ==

Holy crap, do you need any help?!? -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:33, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:Sure, unfortunately, neither of us have blockind privalages {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 13:35, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::I still have to get my bearings! -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:36, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::The best part is, I'm still keeping up with all of the other edits! {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 13:38, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::Wow, nice work! Look at all those moved pages. Good thing you were here. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:39, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)
I am also attempting to help. -[[User:fahooglewitz1077|Fahooglewitz1077]] 13:40, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)

User talk:Tri-8

2005-07-11T13:33:44Z

fahooglewitz1077:

Could I please ask you to cease and desist moving pages? I am only going to continue to undo the moves. Thank you. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 13:22, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Yes, as such action is considered spam. Please cease moving pages. -[[User:fahooglewitz1077|Fahooglewitz1077]] 13:33, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Help:Contents

2005-07-10T19:09:24Z

fahooglewitz1077: Last Revision was Spam - Not Approved,

The '''Homestar Runner Wiki''' is a collaborative knowledge-base dedicated to the [[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner Flash cartoons]] created by [[The Brothers Chaps]]. The following articles contain guidance and information about reading, authoring, and participating in the Homestar Runner Wiki community. If this is your first time visiting, please read our [[HRWiki:Introduction|Introduction]].

== How do I do that? ==
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HRWiki:Sandbox

2005-07-10T18:50:57Z

fahooglewitz1077:

{{sandbox}}
[http://mrtlecture.ytmnd.com/ Remember kids: If you believe in yourself, eat all your school, stay in milk, drink your teeth, don't do sleep, and get 8 hours of drugs, you can get work!]

Strong Bad loves his Princess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Buff Midget was here!!!

that rocked!

HRWiki:Recent changes patrol

2005-07-10T18:46:05Z

fahooglewitz1077:

Ever noticed a little red exclamation point next to an edit listed on the [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] page? Did you know you can remove those exclamation points by patrolling edits? The idea is that having a group of people patrolling edits should reduce spam and vandalism.

To mark an edit as patrolled, click the "diff" link next to an unpatrolled edit, survey the edit to be sure it isn't spam or vandalism, then click the "Mark as patrolled" link near the top right of the page.

If you'd like to help out in the effort of patrolling recent changes, put your name on the list below. Adding your name to the list constitutes a commitment of time to patrolling. This page will serve as a hub for patrollers to get in contact with one another. Feel free to list any questionable edits at the bottom of this page to call them to the attention of other patrollers. For an example of how this page might serve our community, see the [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:RC patrol|Recent changes patrol]] on Wikipedia.

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Talk:Yahoo Store

2005-05-23T20:35:49Z

fahooglewitz1077:

We need to list all the Freebies you can get with your order. As far as the keychains go, I only know of the Strongbadia Stop sign. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]

I seriously think that they should make plushies of Strong Bad, Homestar and the rest of the dudes, don't you? - [[Miss Free Country USA]]

== Clean up ==

This page really needs major work, especially in the updating-to-the-new-page department. I think we could also have a section or maybe another page for the Flash store page that they just recently stopped using.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:57, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Do you want them to be organized (the items) as they are in the store? -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 20:35, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Yahoo Store

2005-05-23T20:35:36Z

fahooglewitz1077:

Yahoo Store

2005-05-23T20:34:54Z

fahooglewitz1077:

{{cleanup}}
[[Image:newhrstore.png|thumb|right|220px|Homestore Runner!]]
The '''Store''' is where you can buy Homestar Merchandise. [[The Brothers Chaps]] say that this is the reason H*R can remain free of all advertising.

'''Page Title:''' Homestore Runner!

== The Store ==

===Shirts===
*[[Stinkoman 20X6]] (The Game)
*[[Limozeen]]
*[[Homestar Runner]]
*Homestar Running
*Homestar's Shirt
*[[Strong Bad]]
*Strong Bad's Mask (limited quantity, going out of production)
*[[Stinkoman]]
*[[Trogdor]]
*[[The Cheat]]
*[[Homsar]]
*[[Teen Girl Squad]]
*[[Crazy Go Nuts University]] (sold out, out of production)
*[[The Cheat Commandos]]
*[[Marshie]] (limited quantity, going out of production)
*Homestar's Duckie Shirt
*[[Vector Strong Bad]]
*[[Strong Sad]]
*[[Pom Pom]]
*[[Coach Z]]'s Z
*Trogdor Polo for Biz Cas Fri from [[other days]]
*[[Scalding Lake]] Shirt

===CDs===
*[[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]]

===DVDs===
*[[strongbad_email.exe]]: The First 100 [[Strong Bad Email]]s 3-disc DVD set.

===Plush Dolls===
*'''The Cheat Talking Plush Doll'''—A plush doll of The Cheat; when struck or kicked, The Cheat will make The Cheat noises. (Click "Play Demo" to play [[Kick The Cheat]].) Unfortunately, the Cheat doll is currently not available.

===Hoodies===
*The Cheat
*Strong Bad
*Homestar Runner
*Trogdor
*Teen Girl Squad

===Collectible Figurines===
(1st set out on July 15, 2003; 2nd set out as of June 7, 2004.)
*'''Set One:''' Strong Sad, Pom Pom, Marzipan, Homestar Runner, Strong Bad, The Cheat, [[Strong Mad]], Bubs, and Coach Z.
**The box for Set One includes a black and white Strong Bad and Homestar, with the words "homestar runner figuringes" at the top in curved letters. The top, left corner features the "[[Cheap as Free]]" logo, and the right corner features the words "Fairly Collectible!"
*'''Set Two:''' [[The King of Town]], Homestar Running, [[Buckethand]] Strong Bad (from the Strong Bad Email [[new hands]]), [[The Poopsmith]],and Homsar.

===Messenger Bags===
*Homestar Runner
*The Cheat
*Strong Bad
*Trogdor

===Bumper Stickers===
*Homestar, with the words "Seriously." written beside him.
*Trogdor the Burninator
*Teen Girl Squad
*Strong Bad saying "Everybody to the Limit!".

===Static Clings===
*Strong Bad
*The Cheat
*Homestar
*Trogdor

===Patches===
*[[Homestarmy]]
*[[Dangeresque]]
*The Cheat Official Seal
*Trogdor Hi-Score Club
*Raised By A Cup Of Coffee

===Hats===
*Strong Bad billed cap
*Homestar Runner billed cap
*Strong Bad beanie
*Homestar Runner beanie

===Posters===
*[[Homestar and Strong Bad Poster]]
*[[Everybody Everybody Poster]]

===Freebies===
With a certain amount of money paid for something, you get a freebie, or a free piece of merchandise.

*Orders less than $25.00—Mini-Freebie
**A free double-sided drink coaster. (Homestar on one side in red, Strong Bad on other in blue.)

*Orders $25.00–$49.99—Big Freebie
**A sturdy key ring with a colorful vinyl adornment displaying one of several memorable images.
***Here are a list of the keychains:
::[[Strongbadia]] [[Stop Sign]]
::[[Homestar Runner (flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]] Star Logo

*Orders $50.00–$74.99—Jumbo Freebie
**Free Strong Bad Patch

*Orders $75.00–$99.99—Ultimate Freebie
**A set of the Series 2 Figurines.

*Orders $100.00 or more—Ultimate Jumbo Freebie
**Both the Strong Bad Patch and Series 2 Figurines.

== Other Places To Buy ==

===Local Business Area Stores===
According to [http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/reop.html this page], independent comic book, music/video, and other specialty shops will now have an opportunity to sell H*R merchandise. (The Brothers Chaps say that they must never have a sale on the products or have the prices lower than TBC have them marked, to keep sales good.)

===Froogle Search===
If you search for [http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Homestar+Runner Homestar Runner] at [http://froogle.google.com Froogle], you can see H*R products being sold at various other stores.

===Magazines===
Homestar merchandise also turns up in the occasional issue of Previews Magazine (limited on-line version can be seen [http://previews.diamondcomics.com here]), which lists upcoming items available for purchase through local comic stores.

===Comic Cons===
According to [http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/horustatorme.html this page], merchandise such as the Strong Bad Sings CD, The 3-Disc DVD Set, and most apparel except for hoodies and t-shirts will cost 50 percent less than the regular prices in the online store. This encourages those that live in the Orlando area to attend the [http://www.megaconvention.com/exhibitorlist.asp MegaCon 2005 Comic Book Show] where a booth devoted to all things Homestar will be located. Future events similiar to this one will surely follow and may offer similarly discounted prices on fan merchandise.

== Fun Facts ==
''These facts only apply to the old version of the store, the link to which can be found in External Links.''
* From left to right, the t-shirts play the notes A, B, C-sharp, D-sharp, G-sharp, A-sharp, B-sharp/C, C-sharp, D-sharp, E, F-sharp, G-sharp, B. You play songs by moving your mouse over shirts.
*Clicking Back always takes you to [[Main Page 5]].
*The store on the website features Pom Pom and Strong Sad shirts, which are no longer sold.

== Easter Eggs ==
*If you click the 'D' on the sign on top of Bub's Consession Stand on the bottom of the page Homestar will come by and do a little dance!

*The time at Bub's changes according to your computer's clock!

== External Links ==
*[[HRStore:|Visit the store]]
*View the [[HR:store_new04.swf|flash file]] for the old store
[[Category:Special Pages]]

File:newhrstore.png

2005-05-23T20:29:34Z

fahooglewitz1077: Screen shot of the redesigned store.

Screen shot of the redesigned store.

Edga Jr.

2005-03-28T13:20:05Z

fahooglewitz1077:

'''Edga Jr.''' is software similar to [[Edgarware]]. Its apparent purpose is to filter out emails that contain indents - since Strong Bad seems to dislike emails with multiple paragraphs. It first appears in [[long pants]]. Strong Bad likes to call Edga Jr. as "one o' dem read-haired rapscalli...wags."

Its splash screen reads: 
[[Image:edgajr.png|The Edga Jr. Splash Screen]]
[[Category: Computers]]

Edga Jr.

2005-03-28T13:19:50Z

fahooglewitz1077:

'''Edga Jr.''' is software similar to [[Edgarware]]. Its apparent purpose is to filter out emails that contain indents - since Strong Bad seems to dislike emails with multiple paragraphs. It first appears in [[long pants]]. Strong Bad likes to call Edga Jr. as "one o' dem read-haired rapscalli...wags."

Its splash screen reads: 
[[Image:edgajr.png|thumb|The Edga Jr. Splash Screen]]
[[Category: Computers]]

Edga Jr.

2005-03-28T13:19:30Z

fahooglewitz1077:

Edga Jr.

2005-03-28T13:19:19Z

fahooglewitz1077:

'''Edga Jr.''' is software similar to [[Edgarware]]. Its apparent purpose is to filter out emails that contain indents - since Strong Bad seems to dislike emails with multiple paragraphs. It first appears in [[long pants]]. Strong Bad likes to call Edga Jr. as "one o' dem read-haired rapscalli...wags."

Its splash screen reads:
[[Image:edgajr.png|The Edga Jr. Spalsh Screen]]
[[Category: Computers]]

File:edgajr.png

2005-03-28T13:18:05Z

fahooglewitz1077: The Edga Jr. Splash Screen

The Edga Jr. Splash Screen

Talk:NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005

2005-03-12T15:44:14Z

fahooglewitz1077: /* Video and write-up */

==Wowzers==
I'll be personally attending this event tomorrow. And I'll be taking photos galore. If anyone is interested, the Kimmel Building is located at [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=60%20Washington%20Square%20South%20New%20York%2C%20NY&spn=0.022736%2C0.039312 60 Washington Square South]. I'm very, very, very excited. Does anyone else plan to attend? Perhaps we could meet or something.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:10, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:You should bring a video camera with you, so we can possibly do a transcript. That would be sweet.
:I wish I could go, but sadly, I cannot. It would rock to meet you, though. :) →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

Oh man! I wish I could go. I only live 40 minutes away from the city, but I have my theater group! (That's fun too.) I '''second''' on the idea about video taping it for the transcript (as long is it's okay.) I wonder if you'll get to meet TBC!!! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:22, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Additional info==
I was able to find some additional info [http://www.nyu.edu/ticketcentral/events.html here]:
<center><pre>Program Board Presents:
A DATE WITH HOMESTAR RUNNER
Tuesday, 3/1, doors at 5:45pm
Kimmel Center, Shorin Performance Studio, 8th Floor

A Date With Homestar Runner is a presentation by the Chapp
brothers & their video guy Ryan. There will be an awesome
puppet video shot around campus, your favorite cartoons and a
Q&A.

On Sale NOW at Ticket Central!
Tickets $3 with NYU ID, $4 with gov’t issued ID.
Must have NYU ID to obtain 'advance' tickets at Ticket Central.
Limit 2 'advance' tickets per NYU ID. </pre></center>
So yeah, I'm stoked.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:46, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I sure wish I could go. Bring a video camera! →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:Who are the "Chapp brothers"?? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:38, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Update ==

Okay dudes, here's the scoop. After quite an adventure today, I managed to collect a whole bunch of video and some photos. I'll be doing my best to convert and upload the video so that you all can view and transcribe it. I learned quite a bit today, and I know you are all going to ''love'' the video. I'll keep you posted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Ooh... I can't wait. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:How did you get the video? Did you watch the show?? →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah man, I managed to buy two ticket stubs from some guy. (He was somehow able to get back in with his NYU ID, and I was able to get in with the stubs.) I paid quite a pretty penny too. But I'd have to say it's the [[Best/Worst X bucks I ever spent|best forty bucks I ever spent]]![[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Ooooh!!! *steams* I want ticket stubs! I WANT TICKET STUBS!! →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

I'm all tingly! Good work Tom. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

:As am I. Not just good work -''awesome'' work. Awesome work, Tom. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Thanks guys, but just wait until you see this thing! It's totally cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Can't wait for the video! Totally cool, eh Steve..er, Tom? So "totally cool that we don't even know it's totally cool" kind of cool? http://forum.hrwiki.org/images/smiles/icon_mrgreen.gif --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 09:23, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Introduction: Doing a very crappy job ==

I'm sure that this summary will ultimately be replaced by a more accurate chronology of events and even a transcript. But for the time being, I went ahead and partially re-wrote the following:

<pre>Matt and Mike did a very crappy job introducing themselves and instead opted...</pre>

Feel free to change it back to how it is above. I just prefer not to use such slang (e.g., "crappy") - just trying to reduce the use of the colloquial in the article. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:44, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Video and write-up ==

Okay, here we go:
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/2005/03/06/the-brothers-chaps-at-nyu/ My write-up]
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/images/TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent Download the video] (torrent for 1.66 GB avi)
[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:14, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Video's not working. Tips? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]
::Yeah, All it's showing is a bunch of (seemingly) random symbols. What's a torrent anyways? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:26, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::That's a third strike from my try too. And I was so looking forward to the video too! I want to see the bouncing eggs! Oh well, I'm sure [[User:Tom|the man with the plan]] will find a way... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 21:33, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Oops. Okay, since neither the Wiki nor I have infinite bandwidth to spare, I've decided to user the [[WIkipedia:BitTorrent|BitTorrent]] protocol to distribute this file. Simply put, it works like this:
:#I have a big AVI file on my computer.
:#I create a special ".torrent" file for this AVI.
:#I upload the torrent file to my server and link to it from my web page.
:#You download this torrent file.
:#Your torrent handling program takes this file and uses it to contact my torrent handling program.
:#You start downloading the file from me. As you download, you also upload to others downloading.
::Yeah, not the best explanation, but everything you need should be in that Wikipedia article. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:02, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Which Torrent handler do you recomend? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:07, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I use [[Wikipedia:BitComet|BitComet]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:21, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Thanks a lot for making the video. Now for the problems: I've noticed that the torrent uses the UDP tracker protocol extension, and thus is incompatible with most older (and some newer) clients. I also can't seem to connect to anyone except the seeder, and the download is excruciatingly slow, less than 1 kBps. At this rate, I estimate that it will take at least 19 days to complete. Am I the only downloader? - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 22:35, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Well, I'm the only uploader. Any suggestions?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Okay, I've never been much for computer problems being explained with bits, bytes, bandwidth and whatnot, so I'm hoping someone can help a layman (correct spelling?) like me. I downloaded the BitComet program, but what do I do now? I also downloaded the video file, which took about 10 seconds and came in as a Real Player file. So what do I have to do to acquire the actual video, or download it, or view it or whatnot? Thanks alot for getting it though Tom. At least it's out there... Somewhere... '''EDIT: Never mind, I think I got it figured out. It'll take a while, possibly days, right?'''
::Hmmmmm... It says the time remaining is 99:99:99. Any suggestions? (I think I got the same problem as [[User:Meneth|Meneth]]) [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 22:50, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::It sounds like your browser thought the ".avi.torrent" file was some other file. I'm guessing you renamed it "TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent" so BitComet should was able to open it. And yeah, it's going to take a long time. But the more people that download/upload, the faster it will go.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::This is going to take a long, long time. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah! After about 12 hours, I'm up to 1%!!! Only about a month and a half more, and it should be done! Oh well, better than nothing. At least I'll have something to look forwards to in the distant future... '''EDIT: 7:42 Pm another 12 hours later, and it's up to 1.1%. Maybe I should re-upgrade from 'Lite' Speed to 'Light' Speed...''' [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 11:44, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I spent about 5 minutes at it (at the moment, I've uploaded about 32KB and downloaded about 18MB) - So it seems like I'm getting the better deal, and it doesn't seem fair to other users - I'm sure that with more and more users connected, the rate at which we can download the file as a group will go up. I've seen the number of "Connected Peers" grow from four to eight (with a maximum of 14). So it looks encouraging. Just as the wiki is a collaborative effort - so is the idea of bit "torrenting" - Like [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]], I hope I can get past that 1%. My percentage of the 1.66GB AVI file seemed to rush quickly to 1% and then my transfer rate dropped to zero after that (and for quite some time I might add). --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 16:25, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::Update: Can any experienced torrent user (I'm using BitComet) explain why the following "one percent" situation is occuring? [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005.png view 1.0% screenshot here] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005_b.png 3 hours later - 1.1%] --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 20:51, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::That's because the swarm (the set of downloaders) has higher bandwidth than the uploader. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

Could you put the file up on the Gnutella network? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 20:19, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:That wouldn't be faster, unless you've limited your upload speed in BitComet. Come to think of it, a more likely explanation for the low speed (even a 28k modem should be faster) is that you have other torrents and/or p2p apps that hog your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm not running any other p2ps or other torrents. This 1kB/s stuff is killer. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

The torrent tracker seems to be down, is it just me? --[[User:tmbg37|tmbg37]] 20:55, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It's just you. Or your client, if it doesn't support the UDP tracking protocol. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I don't think the tracker is down, tmbg37. The tracker is on a delay but it has continued to function - at least for me anyway. I've been connected since 8:30PM yesterday and so far I see about 9 users connected and all of them have what I have - 3.5% of Tom's AVI file. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 10:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I'm sitting pretty on 4.3% myself, though it looks like everyone else is also around 4.3 or 4.2. Ugh... someone join the chat. I'm lonely. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:::I'm at 4.6% after 25 hours. Who-who. I guess this works great if you are the last person on the planet to download something and not one of the first 20 [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 23:15, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I've got a 4.8% chunk thus far (been connected for more than a day now). This torrent stuff is so...pretendous. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 22:41, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::I just realized it's somehow been off for the past day or so, since I rebooted the computer. Oh no, I've falled behind! I'm only at %4.1. I can't help but feel I'm caught up in some kind of Internet Dowloads pyramid scheme... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 18:08, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I'm at 5% and downloading pretty quickly-about 256 kb/s [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 08:36, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Now I'm near 13% and at 300 kb/s. [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 08:44, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Seed problems? ==

Have we lost the seeder for the torrent? There's no reason it should be taking ''this'' long to download the file, and all the peers seem to have the same 3.5%. Torrents are only fast if different peers can obtain different parts of the file... (connected for 23 hours now on a T1 line, no other bandwidth hogs running)

:I'm still here, and I never shut off the computer or disconnect by my own will, so don't worry about that. Is there some way I can set the thing to upload faster?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:41, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
::Use BitComet's Preferences dialog. Under Connection, check the Global Max Upload Rate. Under Task, check the Maximum upload rate per task. You can also check the Task Specific Settings. If that doesn't help, use NetLimiter or a software firewall (I recommend Kerio Personal Firewall) to make sure that there aren't any other tasks taking up all your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

You could probably not use the torrent at all. You could split up the file into, say, 10 minute segments (or shorter, or longer.) Have that up for download. After a day (when almost everybody who wanted it had already gotten it) Upload the next segment, and repeat that process until everyone has everything. It will take long, but it won't be as complicated or annoying as this torrent stuff.

I also have another idea, but I'm not sure it'll work. Could you make the .AVI into a flash file? Would that make the file size smaller? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:03, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It could, but recoding the .avi with a smaller bitrate would have the same result. In both cases quality would suffer. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

===Encouraging Milestone===
"First and 10" - See [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/firstat10.png screenshot]. I shouldn't brag about being the first "leecher" to have 10%. This is, however, encouraging as I've been connected for about three days and have one tenth of the desired AVI file...at this rate, I see just about everyone drawing off Tom's 'seed' to have all 1.66GB in a month. Does that seem reasonable? ...Or will it (the rate) pick up? --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:26, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

Talk:NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005

2005-03-12T15:36:31Z

fahooglewitz1077: /* Video and write-up */

==Wowzers==
I'll be personally attending this event tomorrow. And I'll be taking photos galore. If anyone is interested, the Kimmel Building is located at [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=60%20Washington%20Square%20South%20New%20York%2C%20NY&spn=0.022736%2C0.039312 60 Washington Square South]. I'm very, very, very excited. Does anyone else plan to attend? Perhaps we could meet or something.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:10, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:You should bring a video camera with you, so we can possibly do a transcript. That would be sweet.
:I wish I could go, but sadly, I cannot. It would rock to meet you, though. :) →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

Oh man! I wish I could go. I only live 40 minutes away from the city, but I have my theater group! (That's fun too.) I '''second''' on the idea about video taping it for the transcript (as long is it's okay.) I wonder if you'll get to meet TBC!!! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:22, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Additional info==
I was able to find some additional info [http://www.nyu.edu/ticketcentral/events.html here]:
<center><pre>Program Board Presents:
A DATE WITH HOMESTAR RUNNER
Tuesday, 3/1, doors at 5:45pm
Kimmel Center, Shorin Performance Studio, 8th Floor

A Date With Homestar Runner is a presentation by the Chapp
brothers & their video guy Ryan. There will be an awesome
puppet video shot around campus, your favorite cartoons and a
Q&A.

On Sale NOW at Ticket Central!
Tickets $3 with NYU ID, $4 with gov’t issued ID.
Must have NYU ID to obtain 'advance' tickets at Ticket Central.
Limit 2 'advance' tickets per NYU ID. </pre></center>
So yeah, I'm stoked.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:46, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I sure wish I could go. Bring a video camera! →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:Who are the "Chapp brothers"?? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:38, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Update ==

Okay dudes, here's the scoop. After quite an adventure today, I managed to collect a whole bunch of video and some photos. I'll be doing my best to convert and upload the video so that you all can view and transcribe it. I learned quite a bit today, and I know you are all going to ''love'' the video. I'll keep you posted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Ooh... I can't wait. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:How did you get the video? Did you watch the show?? →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah man, I managed to buy two ticket stubs from some guy. (He was somehow able to get back in with his NYU ID, and I was able to get in with the stubs.) I paid quite a pretty penny too. But I'd have to say it's the [[Best/Worst X bucks I ever spent|best forty bucks I ever spent]]![[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Ooooh!!! *steams* I want ticket stubs! I WANT TICKET STUBS!! →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

I'm all tingly! Good work Tom. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

:As am I. Not just good work -''awesome'' work. Awesome work, Tom. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Thanks guys, but just wait until you see this thing! It's totally cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Can't wait for the video! Totally cool, eh Steve..er, Tom? So "totally cool that we don't even know it's totally cool" kind of cool? http://forum.hrwiki.org/images/smiles/icon_mrgreen.gif --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 09:23, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Introduction: Doing a very crappy job ==

I'm sure that this summary will ultimately be replaced by a more accurate chronology of events and even a transcript. But for the time being, I went ahead and partially re-wrote the following:

<pre>Matt and Mike did a very crappy job introducing themselves and instead opted...</pre>

Feel free to change it back to how it is above. I just prefer not to use such slang (e.g., "crappy") - just trying to reduce the use of the colloquial in the article. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:44, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Video and write-up ==

Okay, here we go:
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/2005/03/06/the-brothers-chaps-at-nyu/ My write-up]
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/images/TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent Download the video] (torrent for 1.66 GB avi)
[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:14, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Video's not working. Tips? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]
::Yeah, All it's showing is a bunch of (seemingly) random symbols. What's a torrent anyways? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:26, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::That's a third strike from my try too. And I was so looking forward to the video too! I want to see the bouncing eggs! Oh well, I'm sure [[User:Tom|the man with the plan]] will find a way... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 21:33, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Oops. Okay, since neither the Wiki nor I have infinite bandwidth to spare, I've decided to user the [[WIkipedia:BitTorrent|BitTorrent]] protocol to distribute this file. Simply put, it works like this:
:#I have a big AVI file on my computer.
:#I create a special ".torrent" file for this AVI.
:#I upload the torrent file to my server and link to it from my web page.
:#You download this torrent file.
:#Your torrent handling program takes this file and uses it to contact my torrent handling program.
:#You start downloading the file from me. As you download, you also upload to others downloading.
::Yeah, not the best explanation, but everything you need should be in that Wikipedia article. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:02, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Which Torrent handler do you recomend? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:07, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I use [[Wikipedia:BitComet|BitComet]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:21, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Thanks a lot for making the video. Now for the problems: I've noticed that the torrent uses the UDP tracker protocol extension, and thus is incompatible with most older (and some newer) clients. I also can't seem to connect to anyone except the seeder, and the download is excruciatingly slow, less than 1 kBps. At this rate, I estimate that it will take at least 19 days to complete. Am I the only downloader? - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 22:35, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Well, I'm the only uploader. Any suggestions?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Okay, I've never been much for computer problems being explained with bits, bytes, bandwidth and whatnot, so I'm hoping someone can help a layman (correct spelling?) like me. I downloaded the BitComet program, but what do I do now? I also downloaded the video file, which took about 10 seconds and came in as a Real Player file. So what do I have to do to acquire the actual video, or download it, or view it or whatnot? Thanks alot for getting it though Tom. At least it's out there... Somewhere... '''EDIT: Never mind, I think I got it figured out. It'll take a while, possibly days, right?'''
::Hmmmmm... It says the time remaining is 99:99:99. Any suggestions? (I think I got the same problem as [[User:Meneth|Meneth]]) [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 22:50, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::It sounds like your browser thought the ".avi.torrent" file was some other file. I'm guessing you renamed it "TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent" so BitComet should was able to open it. And yeah, it's going to take a long time. But the more people that download/upload, the faster it will go.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::This is going to take a long, long time. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah! After about 12 hours, I'm up to 1%!!! Only about a month and a half more, and it should be done! Oh well, better than nothing. At least I'll have something to look forwards to in the distant future... '''EDIT: 7:42 Pm another 12 hours later, and it's up to 1.1%. Maybe I should re-upgrade from 'Lite' Speed to 'Light' Speed...''' [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 11:44, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I spent about 5 minutes at it (at the moment, I've uploaded about 32KB and downloaded about 18MB) - So it seems like I'm getting the better deal, and it doesn't seem fair to other users - I'm sure that with more and more users connected, the rate at which we can download the file as a group will go up. I've seen the number of "Connected Peers" grow from four to eight (with a maximum of 14). So it looks encouraging. Just as the wiki is a collaborative effort - so is the idea of bit "torrenting" - Like [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]], I hope I can get past that 1%. My percentage of the 1.66GB AVI file seemed to rush quickly to 1% and then my transfer rate dropped to zero after that (and for quite some time I might add). --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 16:25, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::Update: Can any experienced torrent user (I'm using BitComet) explain why the following "one percent" situation is occuring? [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005.png view 1.0% screenshot here] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005_b.png 3 hours later - 1.1%] --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 20:51, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::That's because the swarm (the set of downloaders) has higher bandwidth than the uploader. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

Could you put the file up on the Gnutella network? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 20:19, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:That wouldn't be faster, unless you've limited your upload speed in BitComet. Come to think of it, a more likely explanation for the low speed (even a 28k modem should be faster) is that you have other torrents and/or p2p apps that hog your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm not running any other p2ps or other torrents. This 1kB/s stuff is killer. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

The torrent tracker seems to be down, is it just me? --[[User:tmbg37|tmbg37]] 20:55, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It's just you. Or your client, if it doesn't support the UDP tracking protocol. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I don't think the tracker is down, tmbg37. The tracker is on a delay but it has continued to function - at least for me anyway. I've been connected since 8:30PM yesterday and so far I see about 9 users connected and all of them have what I have - 3.5% of Tom's AVI file. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 10:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I'm sitting pretty on 4.3% myself, though it looks like everyone else is also around 4.3 or 4.2. Ugh... someone join the chat. I'm lonely. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:::I'm at 4.6% after 25 hours. Who-who. I guess this works great if you are the last person on the planet to download something and not one of the first 20 [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 23:15, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I've got a 4.8% chunk thus far (been connected for more than a day now). This torrent stuff is so...pretendous. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 22:41, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::I just realized it's somehow been off for the past day or so, since I rebooted the computer. Oh no, I've falled behind! I'm only at %4.1. I can't help but feel I'm caught up in some kind of Internet Dowloads pyramid scheme... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 18:08, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I'm at 5% and downloading pretty quickly-about 256 kb/s [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 08:36, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Seed problems? ==

Have we lost the seeder for the torrent? There's no reason it should be taking ''this'' long to download the file, and all the peers seem to have the same 3.5%. Torrents are only fast if different peers can obtain different parts of the file... (connected for 23 hours now on a T1 line, no other bandwidth hogs running)

:I'm still here, and I never shut off the computer or disconnect by my own will, so don't worry about that. Is there some way I can set the thing to upload faster?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:41, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
::Use BitComet's Preferences dialog. Under Connection, check the Global Max Upload Rate. Under Task, check the Maximum upload rate per task. You can also check the Task Specific Settings. If that doesn't help, use NetLimiter or a software firewall (I recommend Kerio Personal Firewall) to make sure that there aren't any other tasks taking up all your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

You could probably not use the torrent at all. You could split up the file into, say, 10 minute segments (or shorter, or longer.) Have that up for download. After a day (when almost everybody who wanted it had already gotten it) Upload the next segment, and repeat that process until everyone has everything. It will take long, but it won't be as complicated or annoying as this torrent stuff.

I also have another idea, but I'm not sure it'll work. Could you make the .AVI into a flash file? Would that make the file size smaller? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:03, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It could, but recoding the .avi with a smaller bitrate would have the same result. In both cases quality would suffer. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

===Encouraging Milestone===
"First and 10" - See [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/firstat10.png screenshot]. I shouldn't brag about being the first "leecher" to have 10%. This is, however, encouraging as I've been connected for about three days and have one tenth of the desired AVI file...at this rate, I see just about everyone drawing off Tom's 'seed' to have all 1.66GB in a month. Does that seem reasonable? ...Or will it (the rate) pick up? --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:26, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

Talk:NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005

2005-03-12T15:35:47Z

fahooglewitz1077: /* Video and write-up */

==Wowzers==
I'll be personally attending this event tomorrow. And I'll be taking photos galore. If anyone is interested, the Kimmel Building is located at [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=60%20Washington%20Square%20South%20New%20York%2C%20NY&spn=0.022736%2C0.039312 60 Washington Square South]. I'm very, very, very excited. Does anyone else plan to attend? Perhaps we could meet or something.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:10, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:You should bring a video camera with you, so we can possibly do a transcript. That would be sweet.
:I wish I could go, but sadly, I cannot. It would rock to meet you, though. :) →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

Oh man! I wish I could go. I only live 40 minutes away from the city, but I have my theater group! (That's fun too.) I '''second''' on the idea about video taping it for the transcript (as long is it's okay.) I wonder if you'll get to meet TBC!!! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:22, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Additional info==
I was able to find some additional info [http://www.nyu.edu/ticketcentral/events.html here]:
<center><pre>Program Board Presents:
A DATE WITH HOMESTAR RUNNER
Tuesday, 3/1, doors at 5:45pm
Kimmel Center, Shorin Performance Studio, 8th Floor

A Date With Homestar Runner is a presentation by the Chapp
brothers & their video guy Ryan. There will be an awesome
puppet video shot around campus, your favorite cartoons and a
Q&A.

On Sale NOW at Ticket Central!
Tickets $3 with NYU ID, $4 with gov’t issued ID.
Must have NYU ID to obtain 'advance' tickets at Ticket Central.
Limit 2 'advance' tickets per NYU ID. </pre></center>
So yeah, I'm stoked.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:46, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I sure wish I could go. Bring a video camera! →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:Who are the "Chapp brothers"?? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:38, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Update ==

Okay dudes, here's the scoop. After quite an adventure today, I managed to collect a whole bunch of video and some photos. I'll be doing my best to convert and upload the video so that you all can view and transcribe it. I learned quite a bit today, and I know you are all going to ''love'' the video. I'll keep you posted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Ooh... I can't wait. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:How did you get the video? Did you watch the show?? →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah man, I managed to buy two ticket stubs from some guy. (He was somehow able to get back in with his NYU ID, and I was able to get in with the stubs.) I paid quite a pretty penny too. But I'd have to say it's the [[Best/Worst X bucks I ever spent|best forty bucks I ever spent]]![[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Ooooh!!! *steams* I want ticket stubs! I WANT TICKET STUBS!! →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

I'm all tingly! Good work Tom. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

:As am I. Not just good work -''awesome'' work. Awesome work, Tom. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Thanks guys, but just wait until you see this thing! It's totally cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Can't wait for the video! Totally cool, eh Steve..er, Tom? So "totally cool that we don't even know it's totally cool" kind of cool? http://forum.hrwiki.org/images/smiles/icon_mrgreen.gif --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 09:23, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Introduction: Doing a very crappy job ==

I'm sure that this summary will ultimately be replaced by a more accurate chronology of events and even a transcript. But for the time being, I went ahead and partially re-wrote the following:

<pre>Matt and Mike did a very crappy job introducing themselves and instead opted...</pre>

Feel free to change it back to how it is above. I just prefer not to use such slang (e.g., "crappy") - just trying to reduce the use of the colloquial in the article. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:44, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Video and write-up ==

Okay, here we go:
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/2005/03/06/the-brothers-chaps-at-nyu/ My write-up]
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/images/TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent Download the video] (torrent for 1.66 GB avi)
[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:14, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Video's not working. Tips? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]
::Yeah, All it's showing is a bunch of (seemingly) random symbols. What's a torrent anyways? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:26, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::That's a third strike from my try too. And I was so looking forward to the video too! I want to see the bouncing eggs! Oh well, I'm sure [[User:Tom|the man with the plan]] will find a way... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 21:33, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Oops. Okay, since neither the Wiki nor I have infinite bandwidth to spare, I've decided to user the [[WIkipedia:BitTorrent|BitTorrent]] protocol to distribute this file. Simply put, it works like this:
:#I have a big AVI file on my computer.
:#I create a special ".torrent" file for this AVI.
:#I upload the torrent file to my server and link to it from my web page.
:#You download this torrent file.
:#Your torrent handling program takes this file and uses it to contact my torrent handling program.
:#You start downloading the file from me. As you download, you also upload to others downloading.
::Yeah, not the best explanation, but everything you need should be in that Wikipedia article. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:02, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Which Torrent handler do you recomend? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:07, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I use [[Wikipedia:BitComet|BitComet]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:21, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Thanks a lot for making the video. Now for the problems: I've noticed that the torrent uses the UDP tracker protocol extension, and thus is incompatible with most older (and some newer) clients. I also can't seem to connect to anyone except the seeder, and the download is excruciatingly slow, less than 1 kBps. At this rate, I estimate that it will take at least 19 days to complete. Am I the only downloader? - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 22:35, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Well, I'm the only uploader. Any suggestions?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Okay, I've never been much for computer problems being explained with bits, bytes, bandwidth and whatnot, so I'm hoping someone can help a layman (correct spelling?) like me. I downloaded the BitComet program, but what do I do now? I also downloaded the video file, which took about 10 seconds and came in as a Real Player file. So what do I have to do to acquire the actual video, or download it, or view it or whatnot? Thanks alot for getting it though Tom. At least it's out there... Somewhere... '''EDIT: Never mind, I think I got it figured out. It'll take a while, possibly days, right?'''
::Hmmmmm... It says the time remaining is 99:99:99. Any suggestions? (I think I got the same problem as [[User:Meneth|Meneth]]) [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 22:50, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::It sounds like your browser thought the ".avi.torrent" file was some other file. I'm guessing you renamed it "TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent" so BitComet should was able to open it. And yeah, it's going to take a long time. But the more people that download/upload, the faster it will go.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::This is going to take a long, long time. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah! After about 12 hours, I'm up to 1%!!! Only about a month and a half more, and it should be done! Oh well, better than nothing. At least I'll have something to look forwards to in the distant future... '''EDIT: 7:42 Pm another 12 hours later, and it's up to 1.1%. Maybe I should re-upgrade from 'Lite' Speed to 'Light' Speed...''' [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 11:44, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I spent about 5 minutes at it (at the moment, I've uploaded about 32KB and downloaded about 18MB) - So it seems like I'm getting the better deal, and it doesn't seem fair to other users - I'm sure that with more and more users connected, the rate at which we can download the file as a group will go up. I've seen the number of "Connected Peers" grow from four to eight (with a maximum of 14). So it looks encouraging. Just as the wiki is a collaborative effort - so is the idea of bit "torrenting" - Like [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]], I hope I can get past that 1%. My percentage of the 1.66GB AVI file seemed to rush quickly to 1% and then my transfer rate dropped to zero after that (and for quite some time I might add). --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 16:25, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::Update: Can any experienced torrent user (I'm using BitComet) explain why the following "one percent" situation is occuring? [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005.png view 1.0% screenshot here] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005_b.png 3 hours later - 1.1%] --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 20:51, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::That's because the swarm (the set of downloaders) has higher bandwidth than the uploader. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

Could you put the file up on the Gnutella network? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 20:19, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:That wouldn't be faster, unless you've limited your upload speed in BitComet. Come to think of it, a more likely explanation for the low speed (even a 28k modem should be faster) is that you have other torrents and/or p2p apps that hog your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm not running any other p2ps or other torrents. This 1kB/s stuff is killer. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

The torrent tracker seems to be down, is it just me? --[[User:tmbg37|tmbg37]] 20:55, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It's just you. Or your client, if it doesn't support the UDP tracking protocol. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I don't think the tracker is down, tmbg37. The tracker is on a delay but it has continued to function - at least for me anyway. I've been connected since 8:30PM yesterday and so far I see about 9 users connected and all of them have what I have - 3.5% of Tom's AVI file. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 10:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I'm sitting pretty on 4.3% myself, though it looks like everyone else is also around 4.3 or 4.2. Ugh... someone join the chat. I'm lonely. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:::I'm at 4.6% after 25 hours. Who-who. I guess this works great if you are the last person on the planet to download something and not one of the first 20 [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 23:15, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I've got a 4.8% chunk thus far (been connected for more than a day now). This torrent stuff is so...pretendous. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 22:41, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::I just realized it's somehow been off for the past day or so, since I rebooted the computer. Oh no, I've falled behind! I'm only at %4.1. I can't help but feel I'm caught up in some kind of Internet Dowloads pyramid scheme... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 18:08, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I'm at 5% and downloading pretty quickly-[[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 08:35, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Seed problems? ==

Have we lost the seeder for the torrent? There's no reason it should be taking ''this'' long to download the file, and all the peers seem to have the same 3.5%. Torrents are only fast if different peers can obtain different parts of the file... (connected for 23 hours now on a T1 line, no other bandwidth hogs running)

:I'm still here, and I never shut off the computer or disconnect by my own will, so don't worry about that. Is there some way I can set the thing to upload faster?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:41, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
::Use BitComet's Preferences dialog. Under Connection, check the Global Max Upload Rate. Under Task, check the Maximum upload rate per task. You can also check the Task Specific Settings. If that doesn't help, use NetLimiter or a software firewall (I recommend Kerio Personal Firewall) to make sure that there aren't any other tasks taking up all your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

You could probably not use the torrent at all. You could split up the file into, say, 10 minute segments (or shorter, or longer.) Have that up for download. After a day (when almost everybody who wanted it had already gotten it) Upload the next segment, and repeat that process until everyone has everything. It will take long, but it won't be as complicated or annoying as this torrent stuff.

I also have another idea, but I'm not sure it'll work. Could you make the .AVI into a flash file? Would that make the file size smaller? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:03, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It could, but recoding the .avi with a smaller bitrate would have the same result. In both cases quality would suffer. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

===Encouraging Milestone===
"First and 10" - See [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/firstat10.png screenshot]. I shouldn't brag about being the first "leecher" to have 10%. This is, however, encouraging as I've been connected for about three days and have one tenth of the desired AVI file...at this rate, I see just about everyone drawing off Tom's 'seed' to have all 1.66GB in a month. Does that seem reasonable? ...Or will it (the rate) pick up? --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:26, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

Talk:NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005

2005-03-12T15:35:27Z

fahooglewitz1077: /* Video and write-up */

==Wowzers==
I'll be personally attending this event tomorrow. And I'll be taking photos galore. If anyone is interested, the Kimmel Building is located at [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=60%20Washington%20Square%20South%20New%20York%2C%20NY&spn=0.022736%2C0.039312 60 Washington Square South]. I'm very, very, very excited. Does anyone else plan to attend? Perhaps we could meet or something.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:10, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:You should bring a video camera with you, so we can possibly do a transcript. That would be sweet.
:I wish I could go, but sadly, I cannot. It would rock to meet you, though. :) →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

Oh man! I wish I could go. I only live 40 minutes away from the city, but I have my theater group! (That's fun too.) I '''second''' on the idea about video taping it for the transcript (as long is it's okay.) I wonder if you'll get to meet TBC!!! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:22, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Additional info==
I was able to find some additional info [http://www.nyu.edu/ticketcentral/events.html here]:
<center><pre>Program Board Presents:
A DATE WITH HOMESTAR RUNNER
Tuesday, 3/1, doors at 5:45pm
Kimmel Center, Shorin Performance Studio, 8th Floor

A Date With Homestar Runner is a presentation by the Chapp
brothers & their video guy Ryan. There will be an awesome
puppet video shot around campus, your favorite cartoons and a
Q&A.

On Sale NOW at Ticket Central!
Tickets $3 with NYU ID, $4 with gov’t issued ID.
Must have NYU ID to obtain 'advance' tickets at Ticket Central.
Limit 2 'advance' tickets per NYU ID. </pre></center>
So yeah, I'm stoked.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:46, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I sure wish I could go. Bring a video camera! →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:Who are the "Chapp brothers"?? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:38, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Update ==

Okay dudes, here's the scoop. After quite an adventure today, I managed to collect a whole bunch of video and some photos. I'll be doing my best to convert and upload the video so that you all can view and transcribe it. I learned quite a bit today, and I know you are all going to ''love'' the video. I'll keep you posted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Ooh... I can't wait. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:How did you get the video? Did you watch the show?? →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah man, I managed to buy two ticket stubs from some guy. (He was somehow able to get back in with his NYU ID, and I was able to get in with the stubs.) I paid quite a pretty penny too. But I'd have to say it's the [[Best/Worst X bucks I ever spent|best forty bucks I ever spent]]![[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Ooooh!!! *steams* I want ticket stubs! I WANT TICKET STUBS!! →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

I'm all tingly! Good work Tom. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

:As am I. Not just good work -''awesome'' work. Awesome work, Tom. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Thanks guys, but just wait until you see this thing! It's totally cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Can't wait for the video! Totally cool, eh Steve..er, Tom? So "totally cool that we don't even know it's totally cool" kind of cool? http://forum.hrwiki.org/images/smiles/icon_mrgreen.gif --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 09:23, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Introduction: Doing a very crappy job ==

I'm sure that this summary will ultimately be replaced by a more accurate chronology of events and even a transcript. But for the time being, I went ahead and partially re-wrote the following:

<pre>Matt and Mike did a very crappy job introducing themselves and instead opted...</pre>

Feel free to change it back to how it is above. I just prefer not to use such slang (e.g., "crappy") - just trying to reduce the use of the colloquial in the article. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:44, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Video and write-up ==

Okay, here we go:
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/2005/03/06/the-brothers-chaps-at-nyu/ My write-up]
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/images/TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent Download the video] (torrent for 1.66 GB avi)
[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:14, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Video's not working. Tips? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]
::Yeah, All it's showing is a bunch of (seemingly) random symbols. What's a torrent anyways? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:26, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::That's a third strike from my try too. And I was so looking forward to the video too! I want to see the bouncing eggs! Oh well, I'm sure [[User:Tom|the man with the plan]] will find a way... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 21:33, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Oops. Okay, since neither the Wiki nor I have infinite bandwidth to spare, I've decided to user the [[WIkipedia:BitTorrent|BitTorrent]] protocol to distribute this file. Simply put, it works like this:
:#I have a big AVI file on my computer.
:#I create a special ".torrent" file for this AVI.
:#I upload the torrent file to my server and link to it from my web page.
:#You download this torrent file.
:#Your torrent handling program takes this file and uses it to contact my torrent handling program.
:#You start downloading the file from me. As you download, you also upload to others downloading.
::Yeah, not the best explanation, but everything you need should be in that Wikipedia article. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:02, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Which Torrent handler do you recomend? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:07, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I use [[Wikipedia:BitComet|BitComet]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:21, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Thanks a lot for making the video. Now for the problems: I've noticed that the torrent uses the UDP tracker protocol extension, and thus is incompatible with most older (and some newer) clients. I also can't seem to connect to anyone except the seeder, and the download is excruciatingly slow, less than 1 kBps. At this rate, I estimate that it will take at least 19 days to complete. Am I the only downloader? - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 22:35, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Well, I'm the only uploader. Any suggestions?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Okay, I've never been much for computer problems being explained with bits, bytes, bandwidth and whatnot, so I'm hoping someone can help a layman (correct spelling?) like me. I downloaded the BitComet program, but what do I do now? I also downloaded the video file, which took about 10 seconds and came in as a Real Player file. So what do I have to do to acquire the actual video, or download it, or view it or whatnot? Thanks alot for getting it though Tom. At least it's out there... Somewhere... '''EDIT: Never mind, I think I got it figured out. It'll take a while, possibly days, right?'''
::Hmmmmm... It says the time remaining is 99:99:99. Any suggestions? (I think I got the same problem as [[User:Meneth|Meneth]]) [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 22:50, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::It sounds like your browser thought the ".avi.torrent" file was some other file. I'm guessing you renamed it "TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent" so BitComet should was able to open it. And yeah, it's going to take a long time. But the more people that download/upload, the faster it will go.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::This is going to take a long, long time. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah! After about 12 hours, I'm up to 1%!!! Only about a month and a half more, and it should be done! Oh well, better than nothing. At least I'll have something to look forwards to in the distant future... '''EDIT: 7:42 Pm another 12 hours later, and it's up to 1.1%. Maybe I should re-upgrade from 'Lite' Speed to 'Light' Speed...''' [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 11:44, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I spent about 5 minutes at it (at the moment, I've uploaded about 32KB and downloaded about 18MB) - So it seems like I'm getting the better deal, and it doesn't seem fair to other users - I'm sure that with more and more users connected, the rate at which we can download the file as a group will go up. I've seen the number of "Connected Peers" grow from four to eight (with a maximum of 14). So it looks encouraging. Just as the wiki is a collaborative effort - so is the idea of bit "torrenting" - Like [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]], I hope I can get past that 1%. My percentage of the 1.66GB AVI file seemed to rush quickly to 1% and then my transfer rate dropped to zero after that (and for quite some time I might add). --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 16:25, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::Update: Can any experienced torrent user (I'm using BitComet) explain why the following "one percent" situation is occuring? [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005.png view 1.0% screenshot here] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005_b.png 3 hours later - 1.1%] --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 20:51, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::That's because the swarm (the set of downloaders) has higher bandwidth than the uploader. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

Could you put the file up on the Gnutella network? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 20:19, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:That wouldn't be faster, unless you've limited your upload speed in BitComet. Come to think of it, a more likely explanation for the low speed (even a 28k modem should be faster) is that you have other torrents and/or p2p apps that hog your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm not running any other p2ps or other torrents. This 1kB/s stuff is killer. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

The torrent tracker seems to be down, is it just me? --[[User:tmbg37|tmbg37]] 20:55, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It's just you. Or your client, if it doesn't support the UDP tracking protocol. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I don't think the tracker is down, tmbg37. The tracker is on a delay but it has continued to function - at least for me anyway. I've been connected since 8:30PM yesterday and so far I see about 9 users connected and all of them have what I have - 3.5% of Tom's AVI file. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 10:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I'm sitting pretty on 4.3% myself, though it looks like everyone else is also around 4.3 or 4.2. Ugh... someone join the chat. I'm lonely. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:::I'm at 4.6% after 25 hours. Who-who. I guess this works great if you are the last person on the planet to download something and not one of the first 20 [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 23:15, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I've got a 4.8% chunk thus far (been connected for more than a day now). This torrent stuff is so...pretendous. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 22:41, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::I just realized it's somehow been off for the past day or so, since I rebooted the computer. Oh no, I've falled behind! I'm only at %4.1. I can't help but feel I'm caught up in some kind of Internet Dowloads pyramid scheme... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 18:08, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I'm at 5% and downloading pretty quickly[[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 08:35, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Seed problems? ==

Have we lost the seeder for the torrent? There's no reason it should be taking ''this'' long to download the file, and all the peers seem to have the same 3.5%. Torrents are only fast if different peers can obtain different parts of the file... (connected for 23 hours now on a T1 line, no other bandwidth hogs running)

:I'm still here, and I never shut off the computer or disconnect by my own will, so don't worry about that. Is there some way I can set the thing to upload faster?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:41, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
::Use BitComet's Preferences dialog. Under Connection, check the Global Max Upload Rate. Under Task, check the Maximum upload rate per task. You can also check the Task Specific Settings. If that doesn't help, use NetLimiter or a software firewall (I recommend Kerio Personal Firewall) to make sure that there aren't any other tasks taking up all your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

You could probably not use the torrent at all. You could split up the file into, say, 10 minute segments (or shorter, or longer.) Have that up for download. After a day (when almost everybody who wanted it had already gotten it) Upload the next segment, and repeat that process until everyone has everything. It will take long, but it won't be as complicated or annoying as this torrent stuff.

I also have another idea, but I'm not sure it'll work. Could you make the .AVI into a flash file? Would that make the file size smaller? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:03, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It could, but recoding the .avi with a smaller bitrate would have the same result. In both cases quality would suffer. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

===Encouraging Milestone===
"First and 10" - See [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/firstat10.png screenshot]. I shouldn't brag about being the first "leecher" to have 10%. This is, however, encouraging as I've been connected for about three days and have one tenth of the desired AVI file...at this rate, I see just about everyone drawing off Tom's 'seed' to have all 1.66GB in a month. Does that seem reasonable? ...Or will it (the rate) pick up? --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:26, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer

2005-02-07T02:54:55Z

fahooglewitz1077: Morerer

'''WARNING:''' This file has an extremely large filesize of 13.8 MB. Not reccomended for users with a dial-up connection.

Rather Dashing, Trogdor, and others appear in a real-life film epic.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Trogdor]], [[Rather Dashing]], [[Kerrek]], [[Jhonka]], Blue Knight, [[Poor Gary]], [[King of Peasantry]], [[Trogdor]], Peasant Woman, Baby, [[Mendelev]], [[Dongolev]], [[Naked Ned]], Pterodactyl, The Three Keepers of Trogdor

''{I'm working on it!}''
Do you need help? I have the file on my compy. [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 19:52, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
== Transcript ==
'''NARRATOR:''' It began as the best selling video computer TV game of all time. Not really. But still! A simple peasant wearing <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=24&k=short%20pants" onmouseover="window.status='short pants'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">short pants</a> quested his way into the heart of the nation. Now, for his greatest adventure yet, he will quest... INTO THEATERS!!

'''RATHER DASHING:''' Where's my cottage?

''{fade to black}''

'''RATHER DASHING:''' TROGDOR!!!

''{A few random scenes pass on by, before the Videlectrix logo shows up. It is soon modified to "Videlectrix Films". Cut to a throne room. Rather Dashing is in front of the King of Peasantry.}''

'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' We have coexisted with the Burninator in these lands for centuries. I can't have you marching up there in your short pants upsetting the balance!

'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'll upset YOUR Balance, my lord!

'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' Rather Dashing, you will NOT

== External Links ==

*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.html Watch the Movie Trailer]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.swf SWF file] (would-be transcriptors, I'd download this)
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com.nyud.net:8090/filmstyle.html Coral Cache of trailer]
*[http://www.100megsfree2.com/majadirks/hsrmirror/filmstyle.swf Watch first few seconds] of trailer on a mirror, because the HSR site is so darn slow. (Note: right click on the loading screen and press "play", or it will load for all eternity)
*[http://www.everybodytothelimit.com/mirror/filmstyle.swf EverybodyToTheLimit.com Mirror]
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[[Category: Peasant's Quest]]

Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer

2005-02-07T02:52:09Z

fahooglewitz1077:

'''WARNING:''' This file has an extremely large filesize of 13.8 MB. Not reccomended for users with a dial-up connection.

Rather Dashing, Trogdor, and others appear in a real-life film epic.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Trogdor]], [[Rather Dashing]], [[Kerrek]], [[Jhonka]], Blue Knight, [[Poor Gary]], [[King of Peasantry]], [[Trogdor]], Peasant Woman, Baby, [[Mendelev]], [[Dongolev]], [[Naked Ned]], Pterodactyl, The Three Keepers of Trogdor

''{I'm working on it!}''
Do you need help? I have the file on my compy. [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 19:52, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
== Transcript ==
'''NARRATOR:''' It began as the best selling video computer TV game of all time. Not really. But still! A simple peasant wearing <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=24&k=short%20pants" onmouseover="window.status='short pants'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">short pants</a> quested his way into the heart of the nation. Now, for his greatest adventure yet, he will quest... INTO THEATERS!!

'''RATHER DASHING:''' Where's my cottage?

''{fade to black}''

'''RATHER DASHING:''' TROGDOR!!!

''{A few random scenes pass on by, before the Videlectrix logo shows up. It is soon modified to "Videlectrix Films". Cut to a throne room. Rather Dashing is in front of the King of Peasantry.}''

'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' We have coexisted with the Burninator in these lands for centuries. I can't have you marching up there in your short pants upsetting the balance!

'''RATHER DASHING:''' I'll upset YOUR Balance, my lord!

== External Links ==

*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.html Watch the Movie Trailer]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.swf SWF file] (would-be transcriptors, I'd download this)
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com.nyud.net:8090/filmstyle.html Coral Cache of trailer]
*[http://www.100megsfree2.com/majadirks/hsrmirror/filmstyle.swf Watch first few seconds] of trailer on a mirror, because the HSR site is so darn slow. (Note: right click on the loading screen and press "play", or it will load for all eternity)
*[http://www.everybodytothelimit.com/mirror/filmstyle.swf EverybodyToTheLimit.com Mirror]
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[[Category: Peasant's Quest]]

Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer

2005-02-07T02:42:49Z

fahooglewitz1077: Added Faster Mirror

'''WARNING:''' This file has an extremely large filesize of 13.4 MB. Not reccomended for users with a dial-up connection.

Rather Dashing, Trogdor, and others appear in a real-life film epic.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Trogdor]], [[Rather Dashing]], [[Kerrek]], [[Jhonka]], Blue Knight, [[Poor Gary]], [[King of Peasantry]], [[Trogdor]], Peasant Woman, Baby, [[Mendelev]], [[Dongolev]], [[Naked Ned]], Pterodactyl, The Three Keepers of Trogdor

''{I'm working on it!}''

== Transcript ==
'''NARRATOR:''' It began as the best selling video computer TV game of all time. Not really. But still. A simple peasant wearing short pants quested his way into the heart of the nation. Now, for his greatest adventure yet, he will quest... INTO THEATERS!!

'''RATHER DASHING:''' Where's my cottage?

'''RATHER DASHING:''' TROGDOR!!!

''{A few random scenes pass on by, before the Videlectrix logo shows up. It is soon modified to "Videlectrix Films". Cut to a throne room. Rather Dashing is in front of the King of Peasantry.}''

'''KING OF PEASANTRY:''' We have coexisted with the Burninator

== External Links ==

*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.html Watch the Movie Trailer]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.swf SWF file] (would-be transcriptors, I'd download this)
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com.nyud.net:8090/filmstyle.html Coral Cache of trailer]
*[http://www.100megsfree2.com/majadirks/hsrmirror/filmstyle.swf Watch first few seconds] of trailer on a mirror, because the HSR site is so darn slow. (Note: right click on the loading screen and press "play", or it will load for all eternity)
*[http://www.everybodytothelimit.com/mirror/filmstyle.swf EverybodyToTheLimit.com Mirror]
{{stub}}
[[Category: Peasant's Quest]]

HRWiki:WikiTroll

2004-12-21T13:10:00Z

fahooglewitz1077: Fixing formatting, hopefully

A WikiTroll is a person who purposefully defaces a document on a wiki. There are a few methods in place for dealing with WikiTrolls.

==How to revert a page==
Any page can be reverted back to a previous version. Here's how:
*''sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Position the radio buttons at the current version and the version you want to roll back to, then click "Compare selected versions". Next, click the "rollback" link near the upper right side of the page (directly to the right of the most recent author's name).
*''non-sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Then click on the time and date of the archived version you want to revert back to. The page will appear with the version indicated at the top of the page, just underneath the page title. Next, click "edit" at the top of the page. Add a note in the Summary box that you are reverting the page because of a troll, and then click "Save page".

After repeated defacings, an offender's IP address can be blocked by [[Special:Listadmins|several users]] who have admin rights. These admins pay careful attention to this page, and will [[Special:Ipblocklist|block]] IP addresses where/when appropriate.

== Known Offenders ==
If you see any suspicious, defamatory, or objectionable behavior by any individuals on our wiki, please add their IP address to the list following the same format as the example shown below. For our purposes, an "offense" is defined as the defacement of a single document of our wiki.

''Now, this table format might be a bit confusing, so if you can't figure it out, just toss the date, IP address, and pages defaced down at the bottom of the page and someone will fix it for you. We're flexible like that.''

=== Example ===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:127.0.0.1|127.0.0.1]] ([[Special:Contributions/127.0.0.1|all edits]]) || [[Main Page|Page Defaced]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=1 actual edit] || Description of dastardly deed.
|}

== Offenders ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| December 16, 2004 || 81.153.38.226 || || Defaced [[Main Page]] and this one.

|-
| December 16, 2004 || 216.120.190.222 || || SEVERELY defaced [[Main Page]], [[Strong Bad Email]] and this page.

|-
| Sept 26, 2004 || 24.45.209.62 || || defaced [[Main Page]], [[Homsar Main Page]], [[comic]], [[pom pom]], and [[User:M.J|M.J]]. [[Special:Ipblocklist|Blocked]].

|-
| Sept 26, 2004 || 65.40.125.112 || || defaced [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Strongbadia]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Computer Room]], [[The Stick]], [[Free Country, USA]] and [[Crazy Go Nuts University]].

|-
| Sept 27, 2004 || User gokugod || || defaced [[Main Page]].

|-
| Sept 29, 2004 || 209.66.200.41 || || defaced [[Talk:Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 2, 2004 || 82.36.184.209 || || defaced [[Dangeresque]]

|-
| Oct 4, 2004 || 65.95.109.254 || || added profanity to [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

|-
| Oct 4, 2004 || 4.62.191.117 || || added profanity to the [[Main Page]].

|-
| Oct 5, 2004 || 211.26.31.96 || || deleted Fun Facts from [[other days]] and [[time capsule]], defaced [[time capsule]]

|-
| Oct 8, 2004 || 64.12.116.23 || || trolled [[Quotes]]

|-
| Oct 9, 2004 || 205.188.116.75 || || added pointless comment to [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 10, 2004 || 144.138.69.175 || || added pointless Fun Fact to [[time_capsule]]

|-
| Oct 12, 2004 || 68.100.148.11 || || - Replaced all text in the [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] with a link to the "page" '''ALL IS ON! FEEL IT FEEL IT FEEL IT FEEL IT!'''

|-
| Oct 13, 2004 || 4.130.51.240 || || Removed much of the material from [[Quotes]] that he apparently didn't like.

|-
| Oct 13, 2004 || 24.5.201.84 || || Removed the [[Main Page]], and trolled... the WikiTroll section

|-
| Oct. 14, 2004 || 194.83.70.7 || || Added mature content to [[Senor Mortgage]], [[Main Page]] and [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)]]

|-
| Oct. 16, 2004 || 69.138.144.59 || || Created fake "Television Show" page

|-
| Oct. 16, 2004 || 24.129.85.150 || || Trolled [[Glossary]]

|-
| Oct 16, 2004 || 148.85.1.101 || || Vandalized [[HRWiki:About]]

|-
| Oct 17, 2004 || 24.117.133.95 || || Added profanity to [[Characters]]

|-
| Oct 19, 2004 || 67.169.0.163 || || Immature addition in Fun Facts on [[sibbie]].

|-
| Oct 19, 2004 || 212.159.79.225 || || Trolled [[User:woddfellow2|woddfellow2]]

|-
| Oct 20, 2004 || 210.84.225.173 || || Added rude comment to [[Legal]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 69.169.241.169 || || Trolled [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 163.11.255.34 || || Blanked and trolled [[Dangeresque]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 67.71.126.207 || || Defaced [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 24.205.80.66 || || Trolled [[halloweener]] and [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 80.46.168.155 || || Immature addition to [[Talk:Senor Mortgage]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 64.170.153.190 || || Trolled [[Cheap as Free]], [[Peasant's Quest]], and the [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 24, 2004 || 68.32.157.188 || || Trolled [[TROGDOR!]]

|-
| Oct 24, 2004 || 68.8.236.2 || || Defaced [[duck pond]]

|-
| Oct 25, 2004 || 68.166.4.182 || || Created [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]] and made profane comments.

|-
| Oct 25, 2004 || 4.26.82.103 || || Trolled [[Super Kingio Brothers]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]], and [[Isle of Pom]]

|-
| Oct 25, 2004 || 68.122.211.97 || || Trolled [[Under Construction]]

|-
| Oct 26, 2004 || 221.219.56.212 || || Added pointless links to [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 27, 2004 || 217.44.14.69 || || Added unecessary punctuation and pointless comment to [[Strong Bad Email]]

|-
| Oct 29, 2004 || 68.19.0.41 || || Created "The Simpsons" page

|-
| Oct 31, 2004 || 24.15.215.193 || || Defaced [[Main Page]], [[Toons]] and [[Halloween Fairstival]].

|-
| Oct 31, 2004 || 66.110.238.52 || || Defaced [[ghosts]]

|-
| Oct 31, 2004 || 61.49.205.19 || || Trolled [[labor day]]

|-
| Nov 1, 2004 || 69.179.54.246 || || Defaced [[Nighttime Driving Type Game]] by adding profanity to the Easter Egg transcript.

|-
| Nov 1, 2004 || 69.179.49.9 || || Defaced [[Dangeresque]]

|-
| Nov 3, 2004 || 68.85.13.60 || || Trolled [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

|-
| Nov 3, 2004 || 24.17.148.102 || || Trolled User:spellchecka

|-
| Nov 4, 2004 || 67.22.38.69 || || defaced [[labor day]]
|-
| Dec 5, 2004 || 67.22.38.69 || || defaced [[Fortune Cookies]]
|-
| Nov 4, 2004 || 63.226.185.4 || || Trolled [[Legal]] and made several nonsense pages

|-
| Nov 4, 2004 || 68.54.103.157 || || Deleted portions of the [[Main Page]] and [[Strong Bad Email]]

|-
| Nov 5, 2004 || 70.66.38.178 || || Trolled [[Main Page]] and [[Everybody Knows It]]

|-
| Nov 8, 2004 || 172.129.239.114 || || Deleted everything in [[Help:Contents]] and [[Powered by the Cheat]], deleted portions of [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]]

|-
| Nov 8, 2004 || 24.29.154.89 || || Trolled [[Pom Pom's girls]]

|-
| Nov 9, 2004 || 24.58.8.134 || || Trolled [[Stickly Man]], [[:Category:Main Characters]], and [[Experimental Film]]

|-
| Nov 10, 2004 || 12.202.201.107 || || Defaced [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 10, 2004 || 70.66.255.177 || || Added spam to [[Kobe|Kobe #1]]

|-
| Nov 12, 2004 || 170.222.38.239 || || Trolled [[japanese cartoon]]

|-
| Nov 13, 2004 || 221.219.63.133 || || Added spam to [[strongbad_email.exe]] and [[cheat talk]], and tons of other stuff, including this very page!

|-
| Nov 13, 2004 || 24.186.127.154 || || deleted large portions of [[Rejects]].

|-
| Nov 16, 2004 || 163.150.15.182 || || Trolled [[Main Page]] by adding "homsar woot woot" and a broken image link.

|-
| Nov 16, 2004 || 12.203.172.52 || || Trolled [[Main Page]] multiple times.

|-
| Nov 18, 2004 || 82.156.72.59 || || Created [[Fhqwhgads (karaoke)]], [[Dangeresque (karaoke)]], [[Nite Mamas (karaoke)]], and [[Trogdor! (karaoke)]] and placed profanity and offensive statements on the pages.

|-
| Nov 18, 2004 || 156.63.181.3 || || Replaced [[Main Page]], [[Talk:Main Page]] with one word, and [[Strong Bad Email]], and [[Talk:Strong Bad Email]] with no words.

|-
| Nov 18, 2004 || 151.197.42.190 || || Added rude comment to [[Day at the Park]]

|-
| Nov. 14, 2004 || 68.205.174.253 || || Defaced "Cheat" in [[Sightings]] by adding a fictional statement

|-
| Nov 19, 2004 || 211.147.232.81 || || Defaced Main Page

|-
| Oct 13, 2004 || 135.214.66.241 || || Added a talk page to [[gimmicks]] consisting of little but rather explicit descriptions of mature content.
|-
| Nov 19, 2004 || 135.214.66.241 || || Deleted content on the [[Main Page]], replacing it with a very rude comment.

|-
| Nov 20, 2004 || 12.203.198.152 || || Added a terrible comment to [[Craig Zobel]].

|-
| Nov 20, 2004 || User [[User:SonicTailsKnuckles|SonicTailsKnuckles]] || || Defaced 12.203.198.152's [[User_talk:12.203.198.152|talk page]] with personal insults, added spam to [[Main Page]] then deleted it

|-
| Nov 20, 2004 || 199.5.155.193 || || Created [[Ryan Sterritt]] page and added rude comment

|-
| Nov 21, 2004 || 210.90.223.227 || || Added unneccesary external links to [[Rejects]]

|-
| Oct 16, 2004 || 65.33.113.215 || || Added fake dialogue to the [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] transcript
|-
| Nov 21, 2004 || 65.33.113.215 || || Created "Puppet Homestar Runner" page, added characters to [[Puppet Time]] and [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams]] that don't appear in them, added fake dialogue to the [[virus]] transcript

|-
| Nov 21, 2004 || 68.105.254.252 || || Created page "The weather in London" (that isn't supposed to be created)

|-
| Nov 21, 2004 || 69.209.117.90 || || Trolled [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]'s userspace

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 69.14.27.229 || || Added "Matt is so cool" to [[Fluffy_Puff_Malloweens|Fluffy Puff Malloweens]]

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 66.245.193.136 || || Defaced [[virus]] and severely defaced [[pom pom]]

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 24.85.74.202 || || Defaced [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]]

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 128.205.249.1 || || Trolled the [[Main Page]] twice

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 24.107.93.135 || || Created page "The weather in London" (that isn't supposed to be created)

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 151.204.132.244 || || Deleted most of [[Quote of the Week]], trolled [[Senor Cardgage]]

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 205.118.81.5 || || Trolled [[The Brothers Chaps]] many times.

|-
| Nov 23, 2004 || 84.25.127.67 || || Created "No Loafing" and "Scroll Button Songs" pages with junk in them, defaced [[Strong Badman]], trolled [[User Talk:Stu]], and defaced [[Strong Bad Email]].

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || User ryanasaurus007 || || Put unneeded comment on [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 69.141.187.126 || || Put a bad external link and ad on top of [[Main Page]].

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 68.0.169.215 || || 'Dillon' Trolled [[Strong Bad Email]] and [[Main Page]].

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 151.199.230.174 || || Trolled [[Pom Pom]]

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 213.249.155.235 || || Trolled [[:Image:the cheat.PNG]]

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 141.152.152.111 || || Changed "Decemberween" to "Novemberween" on [[Litigation Jackson]].

|-
| Nov 26, 2004 || 69.138.8.79 || || Added very profane comment to the [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]].

|-
| Nov 26, 2004 || 66.208.4.69 || || Defaced [[Main Page]].

|-
| Nov 27, 2004 || 69.240.123.103 || || Replaced most of [[Holiday Toons]] with "YOUR SITE IS BROKEN"

|-
| Nov 28, 2004 || 66.74.199.62 || || Defaced a section on [[Thy Dungeonman]].

|-
| Nov 28, 2004 || 203.227.166.71 || || Trolled [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 28, 2004 || 203.227.166.74 || || Trolled [[making out]]

|-
| Nov 29, 2004 || 216.120.190.137 || || Severely defaced [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 29, 2004 || 68.192.99.51 || || Trolled the [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 29, 2004 || 131.247.157.11 || || Blanked [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]]

|-
| Nov. 30, 2004 || 219.137.110.229 || || Added random and useless links to [[Main Page]].

|-
| Dec 1, 2004 || 24.166.217.163 || || Trolled [[stunt double]], created "blank page", "blargidy borfs", and "sjkergshkergh" pages. Also trolled the [[Main Page]], but reverted his trolling.

|-
| Dec 1, 2004 || 156.34.216.176 || || Added rude comment to [[Naked Ned]]

|-
| Dec 1, 2004 || 24.164.250.43 || || Created "tgies" page

|-
| Dec 2, 2004 || 68.8.170.118 || || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]]

|-
| Dec 2, 2004 || 165.161.3.12 || || Blanked image and large section of [[Cold One]]
|-
| Dec 3, 2004 || 165.161.3.12 || || Deleted paragraph of [[Cold One]], again

|-
| Dec 3, 2004 || 65.41.171.114 || || Personally attacked [[User:Cheatasaurusrex]] by putting "I am a stupid guy" in the black space.

|-
| Dec 3, 2004 || 24.154.200.247 || || Placing derogatory marks on [[Talk:Main Page]]

|-
| Dec 3, 2004 || 129.2.222.251 || || Removed a section on [[HRWiki:About]]

|-
| Nov 7, 2004 || 24.225.134.107 || || Defaced [[Main Page]] and added horrible comment to [[Toons]], but removed his/her comment in Toons.
|-
| Dec 4, 2004 || 24.225.134.107 || || Trolled [[User:Happy|Happy]]'s userspace four times (left horrible comments three times, deleted a large portion of the page once)
|-
| Dec 4, 2004 || 24.225.134.107 || || Changed "Decemberween" to "Christmasween" in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]].

|-
| Dec 4, 2004 || 213.151.155.71 || || Added a degrading comment to [[:Image:trogdor.png]]

|-
| Dec 6, 2004 || 66.177.44.46 || || Trolled [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts]] twice
|-
| Dec 6, 2004 || 66.177.44.46 || || Created user page with foul language

|-
| Dec 6, 2004 || 68.39.170.49 || || Added "har har har" to [[HRWiki:About]].

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 152.163.100.203 || || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]].

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 65.117.156.222 || || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]] and [[Main Page]].

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 66.117.231.96 || || Removed the <nowiki>{{sandbox}}</nowiki> template from [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 69.138.8.79 || || Added unneccesary comment to [[Main Page 22]]

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 61.49.205.85 || || Spammed [[cheatday]] and created twenty useless pages devoted to his/her spam.

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 156.63.21.14 || || Vanalized [[Main Page]]

|-
| Dec 9, 2004 || 142.177.79.134 || || Added keyboard mashings to [[army]].

|-
| Dec 9, 2004 || 66.167.217.47 || || Created worthless [[Wilbur]] page

|-
| Dec 9, 2004 || 219.134.99.206 || || Spammed Main Page and [[HRWiki talk:FAQ]].

|-
| Nov 10, 2004 || 69.136.111.77/[[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]] || || Trolled [[User Talk:FireBird]] twice by adding "I am dumb" and "I spelled Mozzillaa and grammar wrong", but then removed comments.
|-
| Dec 11, 2004 || 69.136.111.77/[[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]] || || Added rude and insulting comment to [[User Talk:FireBird]]. ("I don't like you.")

|-
| Dec 11, 2004 || 63.236.237.238 || || Trolled [[User:FireBird|Firebird]]'s user page by deleting it and talk by rewording it.

|-
| Dec 11, 2004 || 69.161.182.112 || || Added a false Linking Rule to the [[Links]] Page.

|-
| Dec 11, 2004 || 24.0.103.137 || || Spammed [[animal]].
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| Dec 12, 2004 || 24.0.103.137 || || Spammed 30+ pages, including [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The Cheat]], and [[Strong Bad]] several other biography pages similarly. Also spammed [[Help:Contents]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]], and the [[Main Page]] repeatedly

|-
| Dec 2, 2004 || 129.100.206.107 || || Trolled [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac's]] user page by adding "I'm a dork. A huge dork and loser. DELORTED!"
|}

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:24.197.22.58|24.197.22.58]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.197.22.58|all edits]]) || [[HRWiki:About]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AAbout&diff=26619&oldid=26618] || Added "say werd" to the About page.
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:24.190.163.199|24.190.163.199]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.190.163.199|all edits]]) || [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3ASandbox&diff=26627&oldid=26626] || Removed header at the top of the [[HRWiki:Sandbox]].
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:70.240.248.4|70.240.248.4]] ([[Special:Contributions/70.240.248.4|all edits]]) || [[Matt Chapman]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Matt_Chapman&diff=26487&oldid=26380] (15 edits) || Drastically defaced [[Matt Chapman]].
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:65.117.156.222|65.117.156.222]] ([[Special:Contributions/65.117.156.222|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=26891&oldid=26887], [[Strong Bad Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=26892&oldid=26888] || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]] and [[Main Page]] for a second time. Last time was on Dec 7th.
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:142.177.108.145|142.177.108.145]] ([[Special:Contributions/142.177.108.145|all edits]]) || [[super powers]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=super_powers&diff=27021&oldid=27011] || Added "DOUGLAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" to Fun Facts in [[super powers]].
|-
| 12/15/2004 || [[User:61.145.130.190|61.145.130.190]] ([[Special:Contributions/61.145.130.190|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=27194&oldid=27189] || Defaced [[Main Page]] with advertisement.
|-
| 12/15/2004 || [[User:70.17.153.105|70.17.153.105]] ([[Special:Contributions/70.17.153.105|all edits]]) || [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Decemberween_Sweet_Cuppin%27_Cakes&diff=27280&oldid=27271] || Trolled with "virus" quote, followed by "LOL!"
|-
| 12/15/2004 || [[User:68.104.169.110|68.104.169.110]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.104.169.110|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=5&diff=27369&oldid=27368] || Defaced several pages, including the [[Main Page]].
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:66.51.194.61|66.51.194.61]] ([[Special:Contributions/66.51.194.61|all edits]]) || [[extra plug]] || Added his name to many a places in the transcript.
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:134.9.15.38|134.9.15.38]] ([[Special:Contributions/134.9.15.38|all edits]]) || [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]] || Removed the inventory section and added "No Way!"
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:24.22.102.26|24.22.102.26]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.22.102.26|all edits]]) || [[Whaddya Know, Haddi-Man?]] || Added nonsense
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:69.154.209.207|69.154.209.207]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.154.209.207|all edits]]) || [Image:sbemail50.PNG][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=sbemail50.PNG&curid=2622&diff=27735&oldid=27732] || Trolled [Image:sbemail50.PNG].
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:199.126.157.20|199.126.157.20]] ([[Special:Contributions/199.126.157.20|all edits]]) || [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Peasant%27s_Quest_Walkthrough&curid=3090&diff=27739&oldid=27737] || Removed "DRESS like a peasant" in [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]].
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:68.184.255.94|68.184.255.94]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.184.255.94|all edits]]) || [[User:83.88.139.108]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:83.88.139.108], [[Homsar Runner]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Homsar_Runner]|| Created two pages apparently meant to troll users.
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| 12/16/2004 || [[User:199.126.35.93|199.126.35.93]] ([[Special:Contributions/199.126.35.93|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=5&diff=27782&oldid=27779], [[User:TheRealZajac]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:TheRealZajac&curid=4010&diff=27780&oldid=27776], [[Whaddya Know, Haddi-Man?]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Whaddya_Know%2C_Haddi-Man%3F&curid=3880&diff=27766&oldid=27763][[User:70.17.153.105]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:70.17.153.105&oldid=27764] || Trolled several pages including the [[Main Page]], added obscenities to [[User:TheRealZajac]], also threatened the site [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:TheRealZajac&oldid=27785](riiiiight...).
|-
| 12/17/2004 || [[User:216.120.190.30|216.120.190.30]] ([[Special:Contributions/216.120.190.30|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]], [[Strong Bad Email]], and WikiTroll || Defaced all three pages
|-
| 12/17/2004 || [[User:69.152.199.12|69.152.199.12]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.152.199.12|all edits]]) || [[3 wishes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=3_Wishes&diff=27953&oldid=27947] || Deleted page
|-
| 12/17/2004 || [[User:64.63.232.186|64.63.232.186]] ([[Special:Contributions/64.63.232.186|all edits]]) || [[User:Mr. Strong Bad]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3AMr._Strong_Bad&diff=0&oldid=28071] || Created and added gibberish to page
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:24.95.42.131|24.95.42.131]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.95.42.131|all edits]] [[HRFWiki:Special:Contributions/24.95.42.131|all edits on fanstuff wiki]]) || Several pages on the [[HRFWiki:Main Page|Fanstuff Wiki]]; [[Strong Mad's Room]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Mad%27s_Room&diff=28440&oldid=28433], [[HRWiki:Projects]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AProjects&diff=28445&oldid=28441], [[HRWiki:Cleanup]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3ACleanup&diff=28443&oldid=28439], [[Main Page]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=28446&oldid=28444] || Trolled several pages, including making rude and very obscene comments. Should be blocked.
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:68.10.80.125|68.10.80.125]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.10.80.125|all edits]] || [[Ballad of the Sneak]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Ballad_of_The_Sneak&diff=28457&oldid=28434] || Added rude comment
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:68.215.158.33|68.215.158.33]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.215.158.33|all edits]]) || [Image:pomgirls.PNG][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Image%3Apomgirls.png&diff=28484&oldid=28474] || Defaced [Image:pomgirls.PNG].
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:69.152.236.224|69.152.236.224]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.152.236.224|all edits]]) || [[Homestar Runner ]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&diff=28567&oldid=28561] || Defaced [[Homestar Runner]].
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:70.64.34.61|70.64.34.61]] ([[Special:Contributions/70.64.34.61|all edits]]) || [[Strong Sad]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Sad&curid=956&diff=28735&oldid=28733] || Replaced text in [[Strong Sad]]'s bio with "Homsar rules".
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:67.181.245.35|67.181.245.35]] ([[Special:Contributions/67.181.245.35|all edits]]) || [[radio]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=radio&curid=4163&diff=28768&oldid=28767] || Filled [[radio]] with links to online stores.
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:68.91.91.113|68.91.91.113]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.91.91.113|all edits]]) || [[Gavin]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Gavin&diff=29043&oldid=29021] || Created [[Drasticpasticbarfmosis]] and included it on Gavin's page.
|-
| 12/20/2004 || [[User:60.55.58.202|60.55.58.202]] ([[Special:Contributions/60.55.58.202|all edits]]) || [[User talk:Kilroy]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKilroy&diff=29050&oldid=28799], [[HRWiki:Projects]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AProjects&diff=29061&oldid=28810], [[Talk:Floppy Disk Container Plus]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3AFloppy_Disk_Container_Plus&diff=28969&oldid=28785], [[Talk:your friends]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3Ayour_friends&diff=29065&oldid=28784] || Spammed several pages by adding useless links.
|-
| 12/20/2004 || [[User:210.49.167.191|210.49.167.191]] ([[Special:Contributions/210.49.167.191|all edits]]) || [[HRFWiki:Other Character Email The Poopsmith]] || Blanked page.
|-
| 12/20/2004 || [[User:60.55.57.90|60.55.57.90]] ([[Special:Contributions/60.55.57.90|all edits]]) || [[User talk:JoeyDay]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:JoeyDay&curid=739&diff=29200&oldid=29197] || Spammed page by adding useless links
|-
| 12/20/2004 || [[User: 24.209.223.70|24.209.223.70]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.209.223.70|all edits]]) || [[for kids]] || Added a fake transcript consiting of what seems to be a conversation with itself.
|-
| 12/21/2004 || [[User:69.110.228.72|69.110.228.72]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.110.228.72|all edits]]) || [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_vs._Little_Girl&curid=2869&diff=29244&oldid=29242] || Blanked transcript.
|-
| 12/21/2004 || [[User:68.39.156.170|68.39.156.170]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.39.156.170|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] || Changed Secret Pages link, then reverted.
|-
| 12/21/2004 || [[User:63.127.54.121|63.127.54.121]] ([[Special:Contributions/63.127.54.121|all edits]]) || [[Talk:Homestar's house]] || Added some immature comments.
|}

HRWiki:WikiTroll

2004-12-21T13:07:41Z

fahooglewitz1077: Fixing formatting, hopefully

A WikiTroll is a person who purposefully defaces a document on a wiki. There are a few methods in place for dealing with WikiTrolls.

==How to revert a page==
Any page can be reverted back to a previous version. Here's how:
*''sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Position the radio buttons at the current version and the version you want to roll back to, then click "Compare selected versions". Next, click the "rollback" link near the upper right side of the page (directly to the right of the most recent author's name).
*''non-sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Then click on the time and date of the archived version you want to revert back to. The page will appear with the version indicated at the top of the page, just underneath the page title. Next, click "edit" at the top of the page. Add a note in the Summary box that you are reverting the page because of a troll, and then click "Save page".

After repeated defacings, an offender's IP address can be blocked by [[Special:Listadmins|several users]] who have admin rights. These admins pay careful attention to this page, and will [[Special:Ipblocklist|block]] IP addresses where/when appropriate.

== Known Offenders ==
If you see any suspicious, defamatory, or objectionable behavior by any individuals on our wiki, please add their IP address to the list following the same format as the example shown below. For our purposes, an "offense" is defined as the defacement of a single document of our wiki.

''Now, this table format might be a bit confusing, so if you can't figure it out, just toss the date, IP address, and pages defaced down at the bottom of the page and someone will fix it for you. We're flexible like that.''

=== Example ===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:127.0.0.1|127.0.0.1]] ([[Special:Contributions/127.0.0.1|all edits]]) || [[Main Page|Page Defaced]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=1 actual edit] || Description of dastardly deed.
|}

== Offenders ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| December 16, 2004 || 81.153.38.226 || || Defaced [[Main Page]] and this one.

|-
| December 16, 2004 || 216.120.190.222 || || SEVERELY defaced [[Main Page]], [[Strong Bad Email]] and this page.

|-
| Sept 26, 2004 || 24.45.209.62 || || defaced [[Main Page]], [[Homsar Main Page]], [[comic]], [[pom pom]], and [[User:M.J|M.J]]. [[Special:Ipblocklist|Blocked]].

|-
| Sept 26, 2004 || 65.40.125.112 || || defaced [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Strongbadia]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Computer Room]], [[The Stick]], [[Free Country, USA]] and [[Crazy Go Nuts University]].

|-
| Sept 27, 2004 || User gokugod || || defaced [[Main Page]].

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| Sept 29, 2004 || 209.66.200.41 || || defaced [[Talk:Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 2, 2004 || 82.36.184.209 || || defaced [[Dangeresque]]

|-
| Oct 4, 2004 || 65.95.109.254 || || added profanity to [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

|-
| Oct 4, 2004 || 4.62.191.117 || || added profanity to the [[Main Page]].

|-
| Oct 5, 2004 || 211.26.31.96 || || deleted Fun Facts from [[other days]] and [[time capsule]], defaced [[time capsule]]

|-
| Oct 8, 2004 || 64.12.116.23 || || trolled [[Quotes]]

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| Oct 9, 2004 || 205.188.116.75 || || added pointless comment to [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 10, 2004 || 144.138.69.175 || || added pointless Fun Fact to [[time_capsule]]

|-
| Oct 12, 2004 || 68.100.148.11 || || - Replaced all text in the [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] with a link to the "page" '''ALL IS ON! FEEL IT FEEL IT FEEL IT FEEL IT!'''

|-
| Oct 13, 2004 || 4.130.51.240 || || Removed much of the material from [[Quotes]] that he apparently didn't like.

|-
| Oct 13, 2004 || 24.5.201.84 || || Removed the [[Main Page]], and trolled... the WikiTroll section

|-
| Oct. 14, 2004 || 194.83.70.7 || || Added mature content to [[Senor Mortgage]], [[Main Page]] and [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)]]

|-
| Oct. 16, 2004 || 69.138.144.59 || || Created fake "Television Show" page

|-
| Oct. 16, 2004 || 24.129.85.150 || || Trolled [[Glossary]]

|-
| Oct 16, 2004 || 148.85.1.101 || || Vandalized [[HRWiki:About]]

|-
| Oct 17, 2004 || 24.117.133.95 || || Added profanity to [[Characters]]

|-
| Oct 19, 2004 || 67.169.0.163 || || Immature addition in Fun Facts on [[sibbie]].

|-
| Oct 19, 2004 || 212.159.79.225 || || Trolled [[User:woddfellow2|woddfellow2]]

|-
| Oct 20, 2004 || 210.84.225.173 || || Added rude comment to [[Legal]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 69.169.241.169 || || Trolled [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 163.11.255.34 || || Blanked and trolled [[Dangeresque]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 67.71.126.207 || || Defaced [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 24.205.80.66 || || Trolled [[halloweener]] and [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

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| Oct 22, 2004 || 80.46.168.155 || || Immature addition to [[Talk:Senor Mortgage]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 64.170.153.190 || || Trolled [[Cheap as Free]], [[Peasant's Quest]], and the [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 24, 2004 || 68.32.157.188 || || Trolled [[TROGDOR!]]

|-
| Oct 24, 2004 || 68.8.236.2 || || Defaced [[duck pond]]

|-
| Oct 25, 2004 || 68.166.4.182 || || Created [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]] and made profane comments.

|-
| Oct 25, 2004 || 4.26.82.103 || || Trolled [[Super Kingio Brothers]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]], and [[Isle of Pom]]

|-
| Oct 25, 2004 || 68.122.211.97 || || Trolled [[Under Construction]]

|-
| Oct 26, 2004 || 221.219.56.212 || || Added pointless links to [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 27, 2004 || 217.44.14.69 || || Added unecessary punctuation and pointless comment to [[Strong Bad Email]]

|-
| Oct 29, 2004 || 68.19.0.41 || || Created "The Simpsons" page

|-
| Oct 31, 2004 || 24.15.215.193 || || Defaced [[Main Page]], [[Toons]] and [[Halloween Fairstival]].

|-
| Oct 31, 2004 || 66.110.238.52 || || Defaced [[ghosts]]

|-
| Oct 31, 2004 || 61.49.205.19 || || Trolled [[labor day]]

|-
| Nov 1, 2004 || 69.179.54.246 || || Defaced [[Nighttime Driving Type Game]] by adding profanity to the Easter Egg transcript.

|-
| Nov 1, 2004 || 69.179.49.9 || || Defaced [[Dangeresque]]

|-
| Nov 3, 2004 || 68.85.13.60 || || Trolled [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

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| Nov 3, 2004 || 24.17.148.102 || || Trolled User:spellchecka

|-
| Nov 4, 2004 || 67.22.38.69 || || defaced [[labor day]]
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| Dec 5, 2004 || 67.22.38.69 || || defaced [[Fortune Cookies]]
|-
| Nov 4, 2004 || 63.226.185.4 || || Trolled [[Legal]] and made several nonsense pages

|-
| Nov 4, 2004 || 68.54.103.157 || || Deleted portions of the [[Main Page]] and [[Strong Bad Email]]

|-
| Nov 5, 2004 || 70.66.38.178 || || Trolled [[Main Page]] and [[Everybody Knows It]]

|-
| Nov 8, 2004 || 172.129.239.114 || || Deleted everything in [[Help:Contents]] and [[Powered by the Cheat]], deleted portions of [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]]

|-
| Nov 8, 2004 || 24.29.154.89 || || Trolled [[Pom Pom's girls]]

|-
| Nov 9, 2004 || 24.58.8.134 || || Trolled [[Stickly Man]], [[:Category:Main Characters]], and [[Experimental Film]]

|-
| Nov 10, 2004 || 12.202.201.107 || || Defaced [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 10, 2004 || 70.66.255.177 || || Added spam to [[Kobe|Kobe #1]]

|-
| Nov 12, 2004 || 170.222.38.239 || || Trolled [[japanese cartoon]]

|-
| Nov 13, 2004 || 221.219.63.133 || || Added spam to [[strongbad_email.exe]] and [[cheat talk]], and tons of other stuff, including this very page!

|-
| Nov 13, 2004 || 24.186.127.154 || || deleted large portions of [[Rejects]].

|-
| Nov 16, 2004 || 163.150.15.182 || || Trolled [[Main Page]] by adding "homsar woot woot" and a broken image link.

|-
| Nov 16, 2004 || 12.203.172.52 || || Trolled [[Main Page]] multiple times.

|-
| Nov 18, 2004 || 82.156.72.59 || || Created [[Fhqwhgads (karaoke)]], [[Dangeresque (karaoke)]], [[Nite Mamas (karaoke)]], and [[Trogdor! (karaoke)]] and placed profanity and offensive statements on the pages.

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| Nov 18, 2004 || 156.63.181.3 || || Replaced [[Main Page]], [[Talk:Main Page]] with one word, and [[Strong Bad Email]], and [[Talk:Strong Bad Email]] with no words.

|-
| Nov 18, 2004 || 151.197.42.190 || || Added rude comment to [[Day at the Park]]

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| Nov. 14, 2004 || 68.205.174.253 || || Defaced "Cheat" in [[Sightings]] by adding a fictional statement

|-
| Nov 19, 2004 || 211.147.232.81 || || Defaced Main Page

|-
| Oct 13, 2004 || 135.214.66.241 || || Added a talk page to [[gimmicks]] consisting of little but rather explicit descriptions of mature content.
|-
| Nov 19, 2004 || 135.214.66.241 || || Deleted content on the [[Main Page]], replacing it with a very rude comment.

|-
| Nov 20, 2004 || 12.203.198.152 || || Added a terrible comment to [[Craig Zobel]].

|-
| Nov 20, 2004 || User [[User:SonicTailsKnuckles|SonicTailsKnuckles]] || || Defaced 12.203.198.152's [[User_talk:12.203.198.152|talk page]] with personal insults, added spam to [[Main Page]] then deleted it

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| Nov 20, 2004 || 199.5.155.193 || || Created [[Ryan Sterritt]] page and added rude comment

|-
| Nov 21, 2004 || 210.90.223.227 || || Added unneccesary external links to [[Rejects]]

|-
| Oct 16, 2004 || 65.33.113.215 || || Added fake dialogue to the [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] transcript
|-
| Nov 21, 2004 || 65.33.113.215 || || Created "Puppet Homestar Runner" page, added characters to [[Puppet Time]] and [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams]] that don't appear in them, added fake dialogue to the [[virus]] transcript

|-
| Nov 21, 2004 || 68.105.254.252 || || Created page "The weather in London" (that isn't supposed to be created)

|-
| Nov 21, 2004 || 69.209.117.90 || || Trolled [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]'s userspace

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 69.14.27.229 || || Added "Matt is so cool" to [[Fluffy_Puff_Malloweens|Fluffy Puff Malloweens]]

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 66.245.193.136 || || Defaced [[virus]] and severely defaced [[pom pom]]

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 24.85.74.202 || || Defaced [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]]

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 128.205.249.1 || || Trolled the [[Main Page]] twice

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 24.107.93.135 || || Created page "The weather in London" (that isn't supposed to be created)

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 151.204.132.244 || || Deleted most of [[Quote of the Week]], trolled [[Senor Cardgage]]

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 205.118.81.5 || || Trolled [[The Brothers Chaps]] many times.

|-
| Nov 23, 2004 || 84.25.127.67 || || Created "No Loafing" and "Scroll Button Songs" pages with junk in them, defaced [[Strong Badman]], trolled [[User Talk:Stu]], and defaced [[Strong Bad Email]].

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || User ryanasaurus007 || || Put unneeded comment on [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 69.141.187.126 || || Put a bad external link and ad on top of [[Main Page]].

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 68.0.169.215 || || 'Dillon' Trolled [[Strong Bad Email]] and [[Main Page]].

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 151.199.230.174 || || Trolled [[Pom Pom]]

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 213.249.155.235 || || Trolled [[:Image:the cheat.PNG]]

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 141.152.152.111 || || Changed "Decemberween" to "Novemberween" on [[Litigation Jackson]].

|-
| Nov 26, 2004 || 69.138.8.79 || || Added very profane comment to the [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]].

|-
| Nov 26, 2004 || 66.208.4.69 || || Defaced [[Main Page]].

|-
| Nov 27, 2004 || 69.240.123.103 || || Replaced most of [[Holiday Toons]] with "YOUR SITE IS BROKEN"

|-
| Nov 28, 2004 || 66.74.199.62 || || Defaced a section on [[Thy Dungeonman]].

|-
| Nov 28, 2004 || 203.227.166.71 || || Trolled [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 28, 2004 || 203.227.166.74 || || Trolled [[making out]]

|-
| Nov 29, 2004 || 216.120.190.137 || || Severely defaced [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 29, 2004 || 68.192.99.51 || || Trolled the [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 29, 2004 || 131.247.157.11 || || Blanked [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]]

|-
| Nov. 30, 2004 || 219.137.110.229 || || Added random and useless links to [[Main Page]].

|-
| Dec 1, 2004 || 24.166.217.163 || || Trolled [[stunt double]], created "blank page", "blargidy borfs", and "sjkergshkergh" pages. Also trolled the [[Main Page]], but reverted his trolling.

|-
| Dec 1, 2004 || 156.34.216.176 || || Added rude comment to [[Naked Ned]]

|-
| Dec 1, 2004 || 24.164.250.43 || || Created "tgies" page

|-
| Dec 2, 2004 || 68.8.170.118 || || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]]

|-
| Dec 2, 2004 || 165.161.3.12 || || Blanked image and large section of [[Cold One]]
|-
| Dec 3, 2004 || 165.161.3.12 || || Deleted paragraph of [[Cold One]], again

|-
| Dec 3, 2004 || 65.41.171.114 || || Personally attacked [[User:Cheatasaurusrex]] by putting "I am a stupid guy" in the black space.

|-
| Dec 3, 2004 || 24.154.200.247 || || Placing derogatory marks on [[Talk:Main Page]]

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| Dec 3, 2004 || 129.2.222.251 || || Removed a section on [[HRWiki:About]]

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| Nov 7, 2004 || 24.225.134.107 || || Defaced [[Main Page]] and added horrible comment to [[Toons]], but removed his/her comment in Toons.
|-
| Dec 4, 2004 || 24.225.134.107 || || Trolled [[User:Happy|Happy]]'s userspace four times (left horrible comments three times, deleted a large portion of the page once)
|-
| Dec 4, 2004 || 24.225.134.107 || || Changed "Decemberween" to "Christmasween" in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]].

|-
| Dec 4, 2004 || 213.151.155.71 || || Added a degrading comment to [[:Image:trogdor.png]]

|-
| Dec 6, 2004 || 66.177.44.46 || || Trolled [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts]] twice
|-
| Dec 6, 2004 || 66.177.44.46 || || Created user page with foul language

|-
| Dec 6, 2004 || 68.39.170.49 || || Added "har har har" to [[HRWiki:About]].

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 152.163.100.203 || || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]].

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 65.117.156.222 || || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]] and [[Main Page]].

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 66.117.231.96 || || Removed the <nowiki>{{sandbox}}</nowiki> template from [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 69.138.8.79 || || Added unneccesary comment to [[Main Page 22]]

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 61.49.205.85 || || Spammed [[cheatday]] and created twenty useless pages devoted to his/her spam.

|-
| Dec 7, 2004 || 156.63.21.14 || || Vanalized [[Main Page]]

|-
| Dec 9, 2004 || 142.177.79.134 || || Added keyboard mashings to [[army]].

|-
| Dec 9, 2004 || 66.167.217.47 || || Created worthless [[Wilbur]] page

|-
| Dec 9, 2004 || 219.134.99.206 || || Spammed Main Page and [[HRWiki talk:FAQ]].

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| Nov 10, 2004 || 69.136.111.77/[[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]] || || Trolled [[User Talk:FireBird]] twice by adding "I am dumb" and "I spelled Mozzillaa and grammar wrong", but then removed comments.
|-
| Dec 11, 2004 || 69.136.111.77/[[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]] || || Added rude and insulting comment to [[User Talk:FireBird]]. ("I don't like you.")

|-
| Dec 11, 2004 || 63.236.237.238 || || Trolled [[User:FireBird|Firebird]]'s user page by deleting it and talk by rewording it.

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| Dec 11, 2004 || 69.161.182.112 || || Added a false Linking Rule to the [[Links]] Page.

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| Dec 11, 2004 || 24.0.103.137 || || Spammed [[animal]].
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| Dec 12, 2004 || 24.0.103.137 || || Spammed 30+ pages, including [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The Cheat]], and [[Strong Bad]] several other biography pages similarly. Also spammed [[Help:Contents]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]], and the [[Main Page]] repeatedly

|-
| Dec 2, 2004 || 129.100.206.107 || || Trolled [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac's]] user page by adding "I'm a dork. A huge dork and loser. DELORTED!"
|}

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:24.197.22.58|24.197.22.58]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.197.22.58|all edits]]) || [[HRWiki:About]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AAbout&diff=26619&oldid=26618] || Added "say werd" to the About page.
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:24.190.163.199|24.190.163.199]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.190.163.199|all edits]]) || [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3ASandbox&diff=26627&oldid=26626] || Removed header at the top of the [[HRWiki:Sandbox]].
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:70.240.248.4|70.240.248.4]] ([[Special:Contributions/70.240.248.4|all edits]]) || [[Matt Chapman]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Matt_Chapman&diff=26487&oldid=26380] (15 edits) || Drastically defaced [[Matt Chapman]].
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:65.117.156.222|65.117.156.222]] ([[Special:Contributions/65.117.156.222|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=26891&oldid=26887], [[Strong Bad Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=26892&oldid=26888] || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]] and [[Main Page]] for a second time. Last time was on Dec 7th.
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:142.177.108.145|142.177.108.145]] ([[Special:Contributions/142.177.108.145|all edits]]) || [[super powers]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=super_powers&diff=27021&oldid=27011] || Added "DOUGLAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" to Fun Facts in [[super powers]].
|-
| 12/15/2004 || [[User:61.145.130.190|61.145.130.190]] ([[Special:Contributions/61.145.130.190|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=27194&oldid=27189] || Defaced [[Main Page]] with advertisement.
|-
| 12/15/2004 || [[User:70.17.153.105|70.17.153.105]] ([[Special:Contributions/70.17.153.105|all edits]]) || [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Decemberween_Sweet_Cuppin%27_Cakes&diff=27280&oldid=27271] || Trolled with "virus" quote, followed by "LOL!"
|-
| 12/15/2004 || [[User:68.104.169.110|68.104.169.110]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.104.169.110|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=5&diff=27369&oldid=27368] || Defaced several pages, including the [[Main Page]].
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:66.51.194.61|66.51.194.61]] ([[Special:Contributions/66.51.194.61|all edits]]) || [[extra plug]] || Added his name to many a places in the transcript.
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:134.9.15.38|134.9.15.38]] ([[Special:Contributions/134.9.15.38|all edits]]) || [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]] || Removed the inventory section and added "No Way!"
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:24.22.102.26|24.22.102.26]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.22.102.26|all edits]]) || [[Whaddya Know, Haddi-Man?]] || Added nonsense
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:69.154.209.207|69.154.209.207]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.154.209.207|all edits]]) || [Image:sbemail50.PNG][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=sbemail50.PNG&curid=2622&diff=27735&oldid=27732] || Trolled [Image:sbemail50.PNG].
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:199.126.157.20|199.126.157.20]] ([[Special:Contributions/199.126.157.20|all edits]]) || [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Peasant%27s_Quest_Walkthrough&curid=3090&diff=27739&oldid=27737] || Removed "DRESS like a peasant" in [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]].
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:68.184.255.94|68.184.255.94]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.184.255.94|all edits]]) || [[User:83.88.139.108]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:83.88.139.108], [[Homsar Runner]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Homsar_Runner]|| Created two pages apparently meant to troll users.
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| 12/16/2004 || [[User:199.126.35.93|199.126.35.93]] ([[Special:Contributions/199.126.35.93|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=5&diff=27782&oldid=27779], [[User:TheRealZajac]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:TheRealZajac&curid=4010&diff=27780&oldid=27776], [[Whaddya Know, Haddi-Man?]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Whaddya_Know%2C_Haddi-Man%3F&curid=3880&diff=27766&oldid=27763][[User:70.17.153.105]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:70.17.153.105&oldid=27764] || Trolled several pages including the [[Main Page]], added obscenities to [[User:TheRealZajac]], also threatened the site [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:TheRealZajac&oldid=27785](riiiiight...).
|-
| 12/17/2004 || [[User:216.120.190.30|216.120.190.30]] ([[Special:Contributions/216.120.190.30|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]], [[Strong Bad Email]], and WikiTroll || Defaced all three pages
|-
| 12/17/2004 || [[User:69.152.199.12|69.152.199.12]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.152.199.12|all edits]]) || [[3 wishes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=3_Wishes&diff=27953&oldid=27947] || Deleted page
|-
| 12/17/2004 || [[User:64.63.232.186|64.63.232.186]] ([[Special:Contributions/64.63.232.186|all edits]]) || [[User:Mr. Strong Bad]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3AMr._Strong_Bad&diff=0&oldid=28071] || Created and added gibberish to page
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:24.95.42.131|24.95.42.131]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.95.42.131|all edits]] [[HRFWiki:Special:Contributions/24.95.42.131|all edits on fanstuff wiki]]) || Several pages on the [[HRFWiki:Main Page|Fanstuff Wiki]]; [[Strong Mad's Room]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Mad%27s_Room&diff=28440&oldid=28433], [[HRWiki:Projects]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AProjects&diff=28445&oldid=28441], [[HRWiki:Cleanup]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3ACleanup&diff=28443&oldid=28439], [[Main Page]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=28446&oldid=28444] || Trolled several pages, including making rude and very obscene comments. Should be blocked.
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:68.10.80.125|68.10.80.125]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.10.80.125|all edits]] || [[Ballad of the Sneak]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Ballad_of_The_Sneak&diff=28457&oldid=28434] || Added rude comment
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:68.215.158.33|68.215.158.33]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.215.158.33|all edits]]) || [Image:pomgirls.PNG][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Image%3Apomgirls.png&diff=28484&oldid=28474] || Defaced [Image:pomgirls.PNG].
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:69.152.236.224|69.152.236.224]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.152.236.224|all edits]]) || [[Homestar Runner ]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&diff=28567&oldid=28561] || Defaced [[Homestar Runner]].
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:70.64.34.61|70.64.34.61]] ([[Special:Contributions/70.64.34.61|all edits]]) || [[Strong Sad]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Sad&curid=956&diff=28735&oldid=28733] || Replaced text in [[Strong Sad]]'s bio with "Homsar rules".
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:67.181.245.35|67.181.245.35]] ([[Special:Contributions/67.181.245.35|all edits]]) || [[radio]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=radio&curid=4163&diff=28768&oldid=28767] || Filled [[radio]] with links to online stores.
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:68.91.91.113|68.91.91.113]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.91.91.113|all edits]]) || [[Gavin]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Gavin&diff=29043&oldid=29021] || Created [[Drasticpasticbarfmosis]] and included it on Gavin's page.
|-
| 12/20/2004 || [[User:60.55.58.202|60.55.58.202]] ([[Special:Contributions/60.55.58.202|all edits]]) || [[User talk:Kilroy]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKilroy&diff=29050&oldid=28799], [[HRWiki:Projects]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AProjects&diff=29061&oldid=28810], [[Talk:Floppy Disk Container Plus]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3AFloppy_Disk_Container_Plus&diff=28969&oldid=28785], [[Talk:your friends]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3Ayour_friends&diff=29065&oldid=28784] || Spammed several pages by adding useless links.
|-
| 12/20/2004 || [[User:210.49.167.191|210.49.167.191]] ([[Special:Contributions/210.49.167.191|all edits]]) || [[HRFWiki:Other Character Email The Poopsmith]] || Blanked page.
|-
| 12/20/2004 || [[User:60.55.57.90|60.55.57.90]] ([[Special:Contributions/60.55.57.90|all edits]]) || [[User talk:JoeyDay]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:JoeyDay&curid=739&diff=29200&oldid=29197] || Spammed page by adding useless links
|-
| 12/20/2004 || [[User: 24.209.223.70|24.209.223.70]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.209.223.70|all edits]]) || [[for kids]] || Added a fake transcript consiting of what seems to be a conversation with itself.
|-
| 12/21/2004 || [[User:69.110.228.72|69.110.228.72]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.110.228.72|all edits]]) || [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_vs._Little_Girl&curid=2869&diff=29244&oldid=29242] || Blanked transcript.
|-
| 12/21/2004 || [[User:68.39.156.170|68.39.156.170]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.39.156.170|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] || Changed Secret Pages link, then reverted.
|-
| 12/21/2004 || [[User:63.127.54.121|63.127.54.121]] ([[Special:Contributions/63.127.54.121|all
edits]]) || [[Talk:Homestar's house]] || Added some immature comments.
|-

HRWiki:WikiTroll

2004-12-21T13:05:47Z

fahooglewitz1077: Added Troll

A WikiTroll is a person who purposefully defaces a document on a wiki. There are a few methods in place for dealing with WikiTrolls.

==How to revert a page==
Any page can be reverted back to a previous version. Here's how:
*''sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Position the radio buttons at the current version and the version you want to roll back to, then click "Compare selected versions". Next, click the "rollback" link near the upper right side of the page (directly to the right of the most recent author's name).
*''non-sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Then click on the time and date of the archived version you want to revert back to. The page will appear with the version indicated at the top of the page, just underneath the page title. Next, click "edit" at the top of the page. Add a note in the Summary box that you are reverting the page because of a troll, and then click "Save page".

After repeated defacings, an offender's IP address can be blocked by [[Special:Listadmins|several users]] who have admin rights. These admins pay careful attention to this page, and will [[Special:Ipblocklist|block]] IP addresses where/when appropriate.

== Known Offenders ==
If you see any suspicious, defamatory, or objectionable behavior by any individuals on our wiki, please add their IP address to the list following the same format as the example shown below. For our purposes, an "offense" is defined as the defacement of a single document of our wiki.

''Now, this table format might be a bit confusing, so if you can't figure it out, just toss the date, IP address, and pages defaced down at the bottom of the page and someone will fix it for you. We're flexible like that.''

=== Example ===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:127.0.0.1|127.0.0.1]] ([[Special:Contributions/127.0.0.1|all edits]]) || [[Main Page|Page Defaced]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=1 actual edit] || Description of dastardly deed.
|}

== Offenders ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| December 16, 2004 || 81.153.38.226 || || Defaced [[Main Page]] and this one.

|-
| December 16, 2004 || 216.120.190.222 || || SEVERELY defaced [[Main Page]], [[Strong Bad Email]] and this page.

|-
| Sept 26, 2004 || 24.45.209.62 || || defaced [[Main Page]], [[Homsar Main Page]], [[comic]], [[pom pom]], and [[User:M.J|M.J]]. [[Special:Ipblocklist|Blocked]].

|-
| Sept 26, 2004 || 65.40.125.112 || || defaced [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Strongbadia]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Computer Room]], [[The Stick]], [[Free Country, USA]] and [[Crazy Go Nuts University]].

|-
| Sept 27, 2004 || User gokugod || || defaced [[Main Page]].

|-
| Sept 29, 2004 || 209.66.200.41 || || defaced [[Talk:Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 2, 2004 || 82.36.184.209 || || defaced [[Dangeresque]]

|-
| Oct 4, 2004 || 65.95.109.254 || || added profanity to [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

|-
| Oct 4, 2004 || 4.62.191.117 || || added profanity to the [[Main Page]].

|-
| Oct 5, 2004 || 211.26.31.96 || || deleted Fun Facts from [[other days]] and [[time capsule]], defaced [[time capsule]]

|-
| Oct 8, 2004 || 64.12.116.23 || || trolled [[Quotes]]

|-
| Oct 9, 2004 || 205.188.116.75 || || added pointless comment to [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 10, 2004 || 144.138.69.175 || || added pointless Fun Fact to [[time_capsule]]

|-
| Oct 12, 2004 || 68.100.148.11 || || - Replaced all text in the [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] with a link to the "page" '''ALL IS ON! FEEL IT FEEL IT FEEL IT FEEL IT!'''

|-
| Oct 13, 2004 || 4.130.51.240 || || Removed much of the material from [[Quotes]] that he apparently didn't like.

|-
| Oct 13, 2004 || 24.5.201.84 || || Removed the [[Main Page]], and trolled... the WikiTroll section

|-
| Oct. 14, 2004 || 194.83.70.7 || || Added mature content to [[Senor Mortgage]], [[Main Page]] and [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)]]

|-
| Oct. 16, 2004 || 69.138.144.59 || || Created fake "Television Show" page

|-
| Oct. 16, 2004 || 24.129.85.150 || || Trolled [[Glossary]]

|-
| Oct 16, 2004 || 148.85.1.101 || || Vandalized [[HRWiki:About]]

|-
| Oct 17, 2004 || 24.117.133.95 || || Added profanity to [[Characters]]

|-
| Oct 19, 2004 || 67.169.0.163 || || Immature addition in Fun Facts on [[sibbie]].

|-
| Oct 19, 2004 || 212.159.79.225 || || Trolled [[User:woddfellow2|woddfellow2]]

|-
| Oct 20, 2004 || 210.84.225.173 || || Added rude comment to [[Legal]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 69.169.241.169 || || Trolled [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 163.11.255.34 || || Blanked and trolled [[Dangeresque]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 67.71.126.207 || || Defaced [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 24.205.80.66 || || Trolled [[halloweener]] and [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 80.46.168.155 || || Immature addition to [[Talk:Senor Mortgage]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 64.170.153.190 || || Trolled [[Cheap as Free]], [[Peasant's Quest]], and the [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 24, 2004 || 68.32.157.188 || || Trolled [[TROGDOR!]]

|-
| Oct 24, 2004 || 68.8.236.2 || || Defaced [[duck pond]]

|-
| Oct 25, 2004 || 68.166.4.182 || || Created [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]] and made profane comments.

|-
| Oct 25, 2004 || 4.26.82.103 || || Trolled [[Super Kingio Brothers]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]], and [[Isle of Pom]]

|-
| Oct 25, 2004 || 68.122.211.97 || || Trolled [[Under Construction]]

|-
| Oct 26, 2004 || 221.219.56.212 || || Added pointless links to [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 27, 2004 || 217.44.14.69 || || Added unecessary punctuation and pointless comment to [[Strong Bad Email]]

|-
| Oct 29, 2004 || 68.19.0.41 || || Created "The Simpsons" page

|-
| Oct 31, 2004 || 24.15.215.193 || || Defaced [[Main Page]], [[Toons]] and [[Halloween Fairstival]].

|-
| Oct 31, 2004 || 66.110.238.52 || || Defaced [[ghosts]]

|-
| Oct 31, 2004 || 61.49.205.19 || || Trolled [[labor day]]

|-
| Nov 1, 2004 || 69.179.54.246 || || Defaced [[Nighttime Driving Type Game]] by adding profanity to the Easter Egg transcript.

|-
| Nov 1, 2004 || 69.179.49.9 || || Defaced [[Dangeresque]]

|-
| Nov 3, 2004 || 68.85.13.60 || || Trolled [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

|-
| Nov 3, 2004 || 24.17.148.102 || || Trolled User:spellchecka

|-
| Nov 4, 2004 || 67.22.38.69 || || defaced [[labor day]]
|-
| Dec 5, 2004 || 67.22.38.69 || || defaced [[Fortune Cookies]]
|-
| Nov 4, 2004 || 63.226.185.4 || || Trolled [[Legal]] and made several nonsense pages

|-
| Nov 4, 2004 || 68.54.103.157 || || Deleted portions of the [[Main Page]] and [[Strong Bad Email]]

|-
| Nov 5, 2004 || 70.66.38.178 || || Trolled [[Main Page]] and [[Everybody Knows It]]

|-
| Nov 8, 2004 || 172.129.239.114 || || Deleted everything in [[Help:Contents]] and [[Powered by the Cheat]], deleted portions of [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]]

|-
| Nov 8, 2004 || 24.29.154.89 || || Trolled [[Pom Pom's girls]]

|-
| Nov 9, 2004 || 24.58.8.134 || || Trolled [[Stickly Man]], [[:Category:Main Characters]], and [[Experimental Film]]

|-
| Nov 10, 2004 || 12.202.201.107 || || Defaced [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 10, 2004 || 70.66.255.177 || || Added spam to [[Kobe|Kobe #1]]

|-
| Nov 12, 2004 || 170.222.38.239 || || Trolled [[japanese cartoon]]

|-
| Nov 13, 2004 || 221.219.63.133 || || Added spam to [[strongbad_email.exe]] and [[cheat talk]], and tons of other stuff, including this very page!

|-
| Nov 13, 2004 || 24.186.127.154 || || deleted large portions of [[Rejects]].

|-
| Nov 16, 2004 || 163.150.15.182 || || Trolled [[Main Page]] by adding "homsar woot woot" and a broken image link.

|-
| Nov 16, 2004 || 12.203.172.52 || || Trolled [[Main Page]] multiple times.

|-
| Nov 18, 2004 || 82.156.72.59 || || Created [[Fhqwhgads (karaoke)]], [[Dangeresque (karaoke)]], [[Nite Mamas (karaoke)]], and [[Trogdor! (karaoke)]] and placed profanity and offensive statements on the pages.

|-
| Nov 18, 2004 || 156.63.181.3 || || Replaced [[Main Page]], [[Talk:Main Page]] with one word, and [[Strong Bad Email]], and [[Talk:Strong Bad Email]] with no words.

|-
| Nov 18, 2004 || 151.197.42.190 || || Added rude comment to [[Day at the Park]]

|-
| Nov. 14, 2004 || 68.205.174.253 || || Defaced "Cheat" in [[Sightings]] by adding a fictional statement

|-
| Nov 19, 2004 || 211.147.232.81 || || Defaced Main Page

|-
| Oct 13, 2004 || 135.214.66.241 || || Added a talk page to [[gimmicks]] consisting of little but rather explicit descriptions of mature content.
|-
| Nov 19, 2004 || 135.214.66.241 || || Deleted content on the [[Main Page]], replacing it with a very rude comment.

|-
| Nov 20, 2004 || 12.203.198.152 || || Added a terrible comment to [[Craig Zobel]].

|-
| Nov 20, 2004 || User [[User:SonicTailsKnuckles|SonicTailsKnuckles]] || || Defaced 12.203.198.152's [[User_talk:12.203.198.152|talk page]] with personal insults, added spam to [[Main Page]] then deleted it

|-
| Nov 20, 2004 || 199.5.155.193 || || Created [[Ryan Sterritt]] page and added rude comment

|-
| Nov 21, 2004 || 210.90.223.227 || || Added unneccesary external links to [[Rejects]]

|-
| Oct 16, 2004 || 65.33.113.215 || || Added fake dialogue to the [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] transcript
|-
| Nov 21, 2004 || 65.33.113.215 || || Created "Puppet Homestar Runner" page, added characters to [[Puppet Time]] and [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams]] that don't appear in them, added fake dialogue to the [[virus]] transcript

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| Nov 21, 2004 || 68.105.254.252 || || Created page "The weather in London" (that isn't supposed to be created)

|-
| Nov 21, 2004 || 69.209.117.90 || || Trolled [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]'s userspace

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 69.14.27.229 || || Added "Matt is so cool" to [[Fluffy_Puff_Malloweens|Fluffy Puff Malloweens]]

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| Nov 22, 2004 || 66.245.193.136 || || Defaced [[virus]] and severely defaced [[pom pom]]

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 24.85.74.202 || || Defaced [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]]

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 128.205.249.1 || || Trolled the [[Main Page]] twice

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 24.107.93.135 || || Created page "The weather in London" (that isn't supposed to be created)

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 151.204.132.244 || || Deleted most of [[Quote of the Week]], trolled [[Senor Cardgage]]

|-
| Nov 22, 2004 || 205.118.81.5 || || Trolled [[The Brothers Chaps]] many times.

|-
| Nov 23, 2004 || 84.25.127.67 || || Created "No Loafing" and "Scroll Button Songs" pages with junk in them, defaced [[Strong Badman]], trolled [[User Talk:Stu]], and defaced [[Strong Bad Email]].

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| Nov 24, 2004 || User ryanasaurus007 || || Put unneeded comment on [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 69.141.187.126 || || Put a bad external link and ad on top of [[Main Page]].

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 68.0.169.215 || || 'Dillon' Trolled [[Strong Bad Email]] and [[Main Page]].

|-
| Nov 24, 2004 || 151.199.230.174 || || Trolled [[Pom Pom]]

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| Nov 24, 2004 || 213.249.155.235 || || Trolled [[:Image:the cheat.PNG]]

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| Nov 24, 2004 || 141.152.152.111 || || Changed "Decemberween" to "Novemberween" on [[Litigation Jackson]].

|-
| Nov 26, 2004 || 69.138.8.79 || || Added very profane comment to the [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]].

|-
| Nov 26, 2004 || 66.208.4.69 || || Defaced [[Main Page]].

|-
| Nov 27, 2004 || 69.240.123.103 || || Replaced most of [[Holiday Toons]] with "YOUR SITE IS BROKEN"

|-
| Nov 28, 2004 || 66.74.199.62 || || Defaced a section on [[Thy Dungeonman]].

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| Nov 28, 2004 || 203.227.166.71 || || Trolled [[Main Page]]

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| Nov 28, 2004 || 203.227.166.74 || || Trolled [[making out]]

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| Nov 29, 2004 || 216.120.190.137 || || Severely defaced [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 29, 2004 || 68.192.99.51 || || Trolled the [[Main Page]]

|-
| Nov 29, 2004 || 131.247.157.11 || || Blanked [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]]

|-
| Nov. 30, 2004 || 219.137.110.229 || || Added random and useless links to [[Main Page]].

|-
| Dec 1, 2004 || 24.166.217.163 || || Trolled [[stunt double]], created "blank page", "blargidy borfs", and "sjkergshkergh" pages. Also trolled the [[Main Page]], but reverted his trolling.

|-
| Dec 1, 2004 || 156.34.216.176 || || Added rude comment to [[Naked Ned]]

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| Dec 1, 2004 || 24.164.250.43 || || Created "tgies" page

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| Dec 2, 2004 || 68.8.170.118 || || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]]

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| Dec 2, 2004 || 165.161.3.12 || || Blanked image and large section of [[Cold One]]
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| Dec 3, 2004 || 165.161.3.12 || || Deleted paragraph of [[Cold One]], again

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| Dec 3, 2004 || 65.41.171.114 || || Personally attacked [[User:Cheatasaurusrex]] by putting "I am a stupid guy" in the black space.

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| Dec 3, 2004 || 24.154.200.247 || || Placing derogatory marks on [[Talk:Main Page]]

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| Dec 3, 2004 || 129.2.222.251 || || Removed a section on [[HRWiki:About]]

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| Nov 7, 2004 || 24.225.134.107 || || Defaced [[Main Page]] and added horrible comment to [[Toons]], but removed his/her comment in Toons.
|-
| Dec 4, 2004 || 24.225.134.107 || || Trolled [[User:Happy|Happy]]'s userspace four times (left horrible comments three times, deleted a large portion of the page once)
|-
| Dec 4, 2004 || 24.225.134.107 || || Changed "Decemberween" to "Christmasween" in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]].

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| Dec 4, 2004 || 213.151.155.71 || || Added a degrading comment to [[:Image:trogdor.png]]

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| Dec 6, 2004 || 66.177.44.46 || || Trolled [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts]] twice
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| Dec 6, 2004 || 66.177.44.46 || || Created user page with foul language

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| Dec 6, 2004 || 68.39.170.49 || || Added "har har har" to [[HRWiki:About]].

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| Dec 7, 2004 || 152.163.100.203 || || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]].

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| Dec 7, 2004 || 65.117.156.222 || || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]] and [[Main Page]].

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| Dec 7, 2004 || 66.117.231.96 || || Removed the <nowiki>{{sandbox}}</nowiki> template from [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

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| Dec 7, 2004 || 69.138.8.79 || || Added unneccesary comment to [[Main Page 22]]

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| Dec 7, 2004 || 61.49.205.85 || || Spammed [[cheatday]] and created twenty useless pages devoted to his/her spam.

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| Dec 7, 2004 || 156.63.21.14 || || Vanalized [[Main Page]]

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| Dec 9, 2004 || 142.177.79.134 || || Added keyboard mashings to [[army]].

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| Dec 9, 2004 || 66.167.217.47 || || Created worthless [[Wilbur]] page

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| Dec 9, 2004 || 219.134.99.206 || || Spammed Main Page and [[HRWiki talk:FAQ]].

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| Nov 10, 2004 || 69.136.111.77/[[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]] || || Trolled [[User Talk:FireBird]] twice by adding "I am dumb" and "I spelled Mozzillaa and grammar wrong", but then removed comments.
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| Dec 11, 2004 || 69.136.111.77/[[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]] || || Added rude and insulting comment to [[User Talk:FireBird]]. ("I don't like you.")

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| Dec 11, 2004 || 63.236.237.238 || || Trolled [[User:FireBird|Firebird]]'s user page by deleting it and talk by rewording it.

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| Dec 11, 2004 || 69.161.182.112 || || Added a false Linking Rule to the [[Links]] Page.

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| Dec 11, 2004 || 24.0.103.137 || || Spammed [[animal]].
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| Dec 12, 2004 || 24.0.103.137 || || Spammed 30+ pages, including [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The Cheat]], and [[Strong Bad]] several other biography pages similarly. Also spammed [[Help:Contents]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]], and the [[Main Page]] repeatedly

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| Dec 2, 2004 || 129.100.206.107 || || Trolled [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac's]] user page by adding "I'm a dork. A huge dork and loser. DELORTED!"
|}

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:24.197.22.58|24.197.22.58]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.197.22.58|all edits]]) || [[HRWiki:About]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AAbout&diff=26619&oldid=26618] || Added "say werd" to the About page.
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:24.190.163.199|24.190.163.199]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.190.163.199|all edits]]) || [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3ASandbox&diff=26627&oldid=26626] || Removed header at the top of the [[HRWiki:Sandbox]].
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:70.240.248.4|70.240.248.4]] ([[Special:Contributions/70.240.248.4|all edits]]) || [[Matt Chapman]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Matt_Chapman&diff=26487&oldid=26380] (15 edits) || Drastically defaced [[Matt Chapman]].
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:65.117.156.222|65.117.156.222]] ([[Special:Contributions/65.117.156.222|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=26891&oldid=26887], [[Strong Bad Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=26892&oldid=26888] || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]] and [[Main Page]] for a second time. Last time was on Dec 7th.
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:142.177.108.145|142.177.108.145]] ([[Special:Contributions/142.177.108.145|all edits]]) || [[super powers]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=super_powers&diff=27021&oldid=27011] || Added "DOUGLAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" to Fun Facts in [[super powers]].
|-
| 12/15/2004 || [[User:61.145.130.190|61.145.130.190]] ([[Special:Contributions/61.145.130.190|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=27194&oldid=27189] || Defaced [[Main Page]] with advertisement.
|-
| 12/15/2004 || [[User:70.17.153.105|70.17.153.105]] ([[Special:Contributions/70.17.153.105|all edits]]) || [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Decemberween_Sweet_Cuppin%27_Cakes&diff=27280&oldid=27271] || Trolled with "virus" quote, followed by "LOL!"
|-
| 12/15/2004 || [[User:68.104.169.110|68.104.169.110]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.104.169.110|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=5&diff=27369&oldid=27368] || Defaced several pages, including the [[Main Page]].
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:66.51.194.61|66.51.194.61]] ([[Special:Contributions/66.51.194.61|all edits]]) || [[extra plug]] || Added his name to many a places in the transcript.
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:134.9.15.38|134.9.15.38]] ([[Special:Contributions/134.9.15.38|all edits]]) || [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]] || Removed the inventory section and added "No Way!"
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:24.22.102.26|24.22.102.26]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.22.102.26|all edits]]) || [[Whaddya Know, Haddi-Man?]] || Added nonsense
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:69.154.209.207|69.154.209.207]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.154.209.207|all edits]]) || [Image:sbemail50.PNG][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=sbemail50.PNG&curid=2622&diff=27735&oldid=27732] || Trolled [Image:sbemail50.PNG].
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:199.126.157.20|199.126.157.20]] ([[Special:Contributions/199.126.157.20|all edits]]) || [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Peasant%27s_Quest_Walkthrough&curid=3090&diff=27739&oldid=27737] || Removed "DRESS like a peasant" in [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]].
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:68.184.255.94|68.184.255.94]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.184.255.94|all edits]]) || [[User:83.88.139.108]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:83.88.139.108], [[Homsar Runner]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Homsar_Runner]|| Created two pages apparently meant to troll users.
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| 12/16/2004 || [[User:199.126.35.93|199.126.35.93]] ([[Special:Contributions/199.126.35.93|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=5&diff=27782&oldid=27779], [[User:TheRealZajac]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:TheRealZajac&curid=4010&diff=27780&oldid=27776], [[Whaddya Know, Haddi-Man?]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Whaddya_Know%2C_Haddi-Man%3F&curid=3880&diff=27766&oldid=27763][[User:70.17.153.105]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:70.17.153.105&oldid=27764] || Trolled several pages including the [[Main Page]], added obscenities to [[User:TheRealZajac]], also threatened the site [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:TheRealZajac&oldid=27785](riiiiight...).
|-
| 12/17/2004 || [[User:216.120.190.30|216.120.190.30]] ([[Special:Contributions/216.120.190.30|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]], [[Strong Bad Email]], and WikiTroll || Defaced all three pages
|-
| 12/17/2004 || [[User:69.152.199.12|69.152.199.12]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.152.199.12|all edits]]) || [[3 wishes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=3_Wishes&diff=27953&oldid=27947] || Deleted page
|-
| 12/17/2004 || [[User:64.63.232.186|64.63.232.186]] ([[Special:Contributions/64.63.232.186|all edits]]) || [[User:Mr. Strong Bad]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3AMr._Strong_Bad&diff=0&oldid=28071] || Created and added gibberish to page
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:24.95.42.131|24.95.42.131]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.95.42.131|all edits]] [[HRFWiki:Special:Contributions/24.95.42.131|all edits on fanstuff wiki]]) || Several pages on the [[HRFWiki:Main Page|Fanstuff Wiki]]; [[Strong Mad's Room]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Mad%27s_Room&diff=28440&oldid=28433], [[HRWiki:Projects]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AProjects&diff=28445&oldid=28441], [[HRWiki:Cleanup]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3ACleanup&diff=28443&oldid=28439], [[Main Page]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=28446&oldid=28444] || Trolled several pages, including making rude and very obscene comments. Should be blocked.
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:68.10.80.125|68.10.80.125]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.10.80.125|all edits]] || [[Ballad of the Sneak]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Ballad_of_The_Sneak&diff=28457&oldid=28434] || Added rude comment
|-
| 12/16/2004 || [[User:68.215.158.33|68.215.158.33]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.215.158.33|all edits]]) || [Image:pomgirls.PNG][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Image%3Apomgirls.png&diff=28484&oldid=28474] || Defaced [Image:pomgirls.PNG].
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:69.152.236.224|69.152.236.224]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.152.236.224|all edits]]) || [[Homestar Runner ]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&diff=28567&oldid=28561] || Defaced [[Homestar Runner]].
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:70.64.34.61|70.64.34.61]] ([[Special:Contributions/70.64.34.61|all edits]]) || [[Strong Sad]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Sad&curid=956&diff=28735&oldid=28733] || Replaced text in [[Strong Sad]]'s bio with "Homsar rules".
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:67.181.245.35|67.181.245.35]] ([[Special:Contributions/67.181.245.35|all edits]]) || [[radio]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=radio&curid=4163&diff=28768&oldid=28767] || Filled [[radio]] with links to online stores.
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:68.91.91.113|68.91.91.113]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.91.91.113|all edits]]) || [[Gavin]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Gavin&diff=29043&oldid=29021] || Created [[Drasticpasticbarfmosis]] and included it on Gavin's page.
|-
| 12/20/2004 || [[User:60.55.58.202|60.55.58.202]] ([[Special:Contributions/60.55.58.202|all edits]]) || [[User talk:Kilroy]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKilroy&diff=29050&oldid=28799], [[HRWiki:Projects]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AProjects&diff=29061&oldid=28810], [[Talk:Floppy Disk Container Plus]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3AFloppy_Disk_Container_Plus&diff=28969&oldid=28785], [[Talk:your friends]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3Ayour_friends&diff=29065&oldid=28784] || Spammed several pages by adding useless links.
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| 12/20/2004 || [[User:210.49.167.191|210.49.167.191]] ([[Special:Contributions/210.49.167.191|all edits]]) || [[HRFWiki:Other Character Email The Poopsmith]] || Blanked page.
|-
| 12/20/2004 || [[User:60.55.57.90|60.55.57.90]] ([[Special:Contributions/60.55.57.90|all edits]]) || [[User talk:JoeyDay]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:JoeyDay&curid=739&diff=29200&oldid=29197] || Spammed page by adding useless links
|-
| 12/20/2004 || [[User: 24.209.223.70|24.209.223.70]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.209.223.70|all edits]]) || [[for kids]] || Added a fake transcript consiting of what seems to be a conversation with itself.
|-
| 12/21/2004 || [[User:69.110.228.72|69.110.228.72]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.110.228.72|all edits]]) || [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_vs._Little_Girl&curid=2869&diff=29244&oldid=29242] || Blanked transcript.
|-
| 12/21/2004 || [[User:68.39.156.170|68.39.156.170]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.39.156.170|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] || Changed Secret Pages link, then reverted.
|-
| 12/21/2004 || [[User:63.127.54.121|63.127.54.121]] ([[Special:Contributions/63.127.54.121|all
edits]]) || [[Talk:Homestar's house]] || Added some immature comments

Talk:Homestar's house

2004-12-21T13:04:38Z

fahooglewitz1077:

HRWiki:WikiTroll

2004-12-21T13:04:22Z

fahooglewitz1077: Added Troll

A WikiTroll is a person who purposefully defaces a document on a wiki. There are a few methods in place for dealing with WikiTrolls.

==How to revert a page==
Any page can be reverted back to a previous version. Here's how:
*''sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Position the radio buttons at the current version and the version you want to roll back to, then click "Compare selected versions". Next, click the "rollback" link near the upper right side of the page (directly to the right of the most recent author's name).
*''non-sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Then click on the time and date of the archived version you want to revert back to. The page will appear with the version indicated at the top of the page, just underneath the page title. Next, click "edit" at the top of the page. Add a note in the Summary box that you are reverting the page because of a troll, and then click "Save page".

After repeated defacings, an offender's IP address can be blocked by [[Special:Listadmins|several users]] who have admin rights. These admins pay careful attention to this page, and will [[Special:Ipblocklist|block]] IP addresses where/when appropriate.

== Known Offenders ==
If you see any suspicious, defamatory, or objectionable behavior by any individuals on our wiki, please add their IP address to the list following the same format as the example shown below. For our purposes, an "offense" is defined as the defacement of a single document of our wiki.

''Now, this table format might be a bit confusing, so if you can't figure it out, just toss the date, IP address, and pages defaced down at the bottom of the page and someone will fix it for you. We're flexible like that.''

=== Example ===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/13/2004 || [[User:127.0.0.1|127.0.0.1]] ([[Special:Contributions/127.0.0.1|all edits]]) || [[Main Page|Page Defaced]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=1 actual edit] || Description of dastardly deed.
|}

== Offenders ==

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| December 16, 2004 || 81.153.38.226 || || Defaced [[Main Page]] and this one.

|-
| December 16, 2004 || 216.120.190.222 || || SEVERELY defaced [[Main Page]], [[Strong Bad Email]] and this page.

|-
| Sept 26, 2004 || 24.45.209.62 || || defaced [[Main Page]], [[Homsar Main Page]], [[comic]], [[pom pom]], and [[User:M.J|M.J]]. [[Special:Ipblocklist|Blocked]].

|-
| Sept 26, 2004 || 65.40.125.112 || || defaced [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Strongbadia]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]], [[Computer Room]], [[The Stick]], [[Free Country, USA]] and [[Crazy Go Nuts University]].

|-
| Sept 27, 2004 || User gokugod || || defaced [[Main Page]].

|-
| Sept 29, 2004 || 209.66.200.41 || || defaced [[Talk:Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 2, 2004 || 82.36.184.209 || || defaced [[Dangeresque]]

|-
| Oct 4, 2004 || 65.95.109.254 || || added profanity to [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

|-
| Oct 4, 2004 || 4.62.191.117 || || added profanity to the [[Main Page]].

|-
| Oct 5, 2004 || 211.26.31.96 || || deleted Fun Facts from [[other days]] and [[time capsule]], defaced [[time capsule]]

|-
| Oct 8, 2004 || 64.12.116.23 || || trolled [[Quotes]]

|-
| Oct 9, 2004 || 205.188.116.75 || || added pointless comment to [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 10, 2004 || 144.138.69.175 || || added pointless Fun Fact to [[time_capsule]]

|-
| Oct 12, 2004 || 68.100.148.11 || || - Replaced all text in the [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] with a link to the "page" '''ALL IS ON! FEEL IT FEEL IT FEEL IT FEEL IT!'''

|-
| Oct 13, 2004 || 4.130.51.240 || || Removed much of the material from [[Quotes]] that he apparently didn't like.

|-
| Oct 13, 2004 || 24.5.201.84 || || Removed the [[Main Page]], and trolled... the WikiTroll section

|-
| Oct. 14, 2004 || 194.83.70.7 || || Added mature content to [[Senor Mortgage]], [[Main Page]] and [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)]]

|-
| Oct. 16, 2004 || 69.138.144.59 || || Created fake "Television Show" page

|-
| Oct. 16, 2004 || 24.129.85.150 || || Trolled [[Glossary]]

|-
| Oct 16, 2004 || 148.85.1.101 || || Vandalized [[HRWiki:About]]

|-
| Oct 17, 2004 || 24.117.133.95 || || Added profanity to [[Characters]]

|-
| Oct 19, 2004 || 67.169.0.163 || || Immature addition in Fun Facts on [[sibbie]].

|-
| Oct 19, 2004 || 212.159.79.225 || || Trolled [[User:woddfellow2|woddfellow2]]

|-
| Oct 20, 2004 || 210.84.225.173 || || Added rude comment to [[Legal]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 69.169.241.169 || || Trolled [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 163.11.255.34 || || Blanked and trolled [[Dangeresque]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 67.71.126.207 || || Defaced [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 24.205.80.66 || || Trolled [[halloweener]] and [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 80.46.168.155 || || Immature addition to [[Talk:Senor Mortgage]]

|-
| Oct 22, 2004 || 64.170.153.190 || || Trolled [[Cheap as Free]], [[Peasant's Quest]], and the [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 24, 2004 || 68.32.157.188 || || Trolled [[TROGDOR!]]

|-
| Oct 24, 2004 || 68.8.236.2 || || Defaced [[duck pond]]

|-
| Oct 25, 2004 || 68.166.4.182 || || Created [[Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]] and made profane comments.

|-
| Oct 25, 2004 || 4.26.82.103 || || Trolled [[Super Kingio Brothers]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]], and [[Isle of Pom]]

|-
| Oct 25, 2004 || 68.122.211.97 || || Trolled [[Under Construction]]

|-
| Oct 26, 2004 || 221.219.56.212 || || Added pointless links to [[Main Page]]

|-
| Oct 27, 2004 || 217.44.14.69 || || Added unecessary punctuation and pointless comment to [[Strong Bad Email]]

|-
| Oct 29, 2004 || 68.19.0.41 || || Created "The Simpsons" page

|-
| Oct 31, 2004 || 24.15.215.193 || || Defaced [[Main Page]], [[Toons]] and [[Halloween Fairstival]].

|-
| Oct 31, 2004 || 66.110.238.52 || || Defaced [[ghosts]]

|-
| Oct 31, 2004 || 61.49.205.19 || || Trolled [[labor day]]

|-
| Nov 1, 2004 || 69.179.54.246 || || Defaced [[Nighttime Driving Type Game]] by adding profanity to the Easter Egg transcript.

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| Nov 1, 2004 || 69.179.49.9 || || Defaced [[Dangeresque]]

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| Nov 3, 2004 || 68.85.13.60 || || Trolled [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

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| Nov 3, 2004 || 24.17.148.102 || || Trolled User:spellchecka

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| Nov 4, 2004 || 67.22.38.69 || || defaced [[labor day]]
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| Dec 5, 2004 || 67.22.38.69 || || defaced [[Fortune Cookies]]
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| Nov 4, 2004 || 63.226.185.4 || || Trolled [[Legal]] and made several nonsense pages

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| Nov 4, 2004 || 68.54.103.157 || || Deleted portions of the [[Main Page]] and [[Strong Bad Email]]

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| Nov 5, 2004 || 70.66.38.178 || || Trolled [[Main Page]] and [[Everybody Knows It]]

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| Nov 8, 2004 || 172.129.239.114 || || Deleted everything in [[Help:Contents]] and [[Powered by the Cheat]], deleted portions of [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]]

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| Nov 8, 2004 || 24.29.154.89 || || Trolled [[Pom Pom's girls]]

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| Nov 9, 2004 || 24.58.8.134 || || Trolled [[Stickly Man]], [[:Category:Main Characters]], and [[Experimental Film]]

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| Nov 10, 2004 || 12.202.201.107 || || Defaced [[Main Page]]

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| Nov 10, 2004 || 70.66.255.177 || || Added spam to [[Kobe|Kobe #1]]

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| Nov 12, 2004 || 170.222.38.239 || || Trolled [[japanese cartoon]]

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| Nov 13, 2004 || 221.219.63.133 || || Added spam to [[strongbad_email.exe]] and [[cheat talk]], and tons of other stuff, including this very page!

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| Nov 13, 2004 || 24.186.127.154 || || deleted large portions of [[Rejects]].

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| Nov 16, 2004 || 163.150.15.182 || || Trolled [[Main Page]] by adding "homsar woot woot" and a broken image link.

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| Nov 16, 2004 || 12.203.172.52 || || Trolled [[Main Page]] multiple times.

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| Nov 18, 2004 || 82.156.72.59 || || Created [[Fhqwhgads (karaoke)]], [[Dangeresque (karaoke)]], [[Nite Mamas (karaoke)]], and [[Trogdor! (karaoke)]] and placed profanity and offensive statements on the pages.

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| Nov 18, 2004 || 156.63.181.3 || || Replaced [[Main Page]], [[Talk:Main Page]] with one word, and [[Strong Bad Email]], and [[Talk:Strong Bad Email]] with no words.

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| Nov 18, 2004 || 151.197.42.190 || || Added rude comment to [[Day at the Park]]

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| Nov. 14, 2004 || 68.205.174.253 || || Defaced "Cheat" in [[Sightings]] by adding a fictional statement

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| Nov 19, 2004 || 211.147.232.81 || || Defaced Main Page

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| Oct 13, 2004 || 135.214.66.241 || || Added a talk page to [[gimmicks]] consisting of little but rather explicit descriptions of mature content.
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| Nov 19, 2004 || 135.214.66.241 || || Deleted content on the [[Main Page]], replacing it with a very rude comment.

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| Nov 20, 2004 || 12.203.198.152 || || Added a terrible comment to [[Craig Zobel]].

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| Nov 20, 2004 || User [[User:SonicTailsKnuckles|SonicTailsKnuckles]] || || Defaced 12.203.198.152's [[User_talk:12.203.198.152|talk page]] with personal insults, added spam to [[Main Page]] then deleted it

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| Nov 20, 2004 || 199.5.155.193 || || Created [[Ryan Sterritt]] page and added rude comment

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| Nov 21, 2004 || 210.90.223.227 || || Added unneccesary external links to [[Rejects]]

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| Oct 16, 2004 || 65.33.113.215 || || Added fake dialogue to the [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] transcript
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| Nov 21, 2004 || 65.33.113.215 || || Created "Puppet Homestar Runner" page, added characters to [[Puppet Time]] and [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams]] that don't appear in them, added fake dialogue to the [[virus]] transcript

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| Nov 21, 2004 || 68.105.254.252 || || Created page "The weather in London" (that isn't supposed to be created)

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| Nov 21, 2004 || 69.209.117.90 || || Trolled [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]'s userspace

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| Nov 22, 2004 || 69.14.27.229 || || Added "Matt is so cool" to [[Fluffy_Puff_Malloweens|Fluffy Puff Malloweens]]

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| Nov 22, 2004 || 66.245.193.136 || || Defaced [[virus]] and severely defaced [[pom pom]]

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| Nov 22, 2004 || 24.85.74.202 || || Defaced [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]]

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| Nov 22, 2004 || 128.205.249.1 || || Trolled the [[Main Page]] twice

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| Nov 22, 2004 || 24.107.93.135 || || Created page "The weather in London" (that isn't supposed to be created)

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| Nov 22, 2004 || 151.204.132.244 || || Deleted most of [[Quote of the Week]], trolled [[Senor Cardgage]]

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| Nov 22, 2004 || 205.118.81.5 || || Trolled [[The Brothers Chaps]] many times.

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| Nov 23, 2004 || 84.25.127.67 || || Created "No Loafing" and "Scroll Button Songs" pages with junk in them, defaced [[Strong Badman]], trolled [[User Talk:Stu]], and defaced [[Strong Bad Email]].

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| Nov 24, 2004 || User ryanasaurus007 || || Put unneeded comment on [[Main Page]]

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| Nov 24, 2004 || 69.141.187.126 || || Put a bad external link and ad on top of [[Main Page]].

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| Nov 24, 2004 || 68.0.169.215 || || 'Dillon' Trolled [[Strong Bad Email]] and [[Main Page]].

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| Nov 24, 2004 || 151.199.230.174 || || Trolled [[Pom Pom]]

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| Nov 24, 2004 || 213.249.155.235 || || Trolled [[:Image:the cheat.PNG]]

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| Nov 24, 2004 || 141.152.152.111 || || Changed "Decemberween" to "Novemberween" on [[Litigation Jackson]].

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| Nov 26, 2004 || 69.138.8.79 || || Added very profane comment to the [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]].

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| Nov 26, 2004 || 66.208.4.69 || || Defaced [[Main Page]].

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| Nov 27, 2004 || 69.240.123.103 || || Replaced most of [[Holiday Toons]] with "YOUR SITE IS BROKEN"

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| Nov 28, 2004 || 66.74.199.62 || || Defaced a section on [[Thy Dungeonman]].

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| Nov 28, 2004 || 203.227.166.71 || || Trolled [[Main Page]]

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| Nov 28, 2004 || 203.227.166.74 || || Trolled [[making out]]

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| Nov 29, 2004 || 216.120.190.137 || || Severely defaced [[Main Page]]

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| Nov 29, 2004 || 68.192.99.51 || || Trolled the [[Main Page]]

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| Nov 29, 2004 || 131.247.157.11 || || Blanked [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]]

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| Nov. 30, 2004 || 219.137.110.229 || || Added random and useless links to [[Main Page]].

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| Dec 1, 2004 || 24.166.217.163 || || Trolled [[stunt double]], created "blank page", "blargidy borfs", and "sjkergshkergh" pages. Also trolled the [[Main Page]], but reverted his trolling.

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| Dec 1, 2004 || 156.34.216.176 || || Added rude comment to [[Naked Ned]]

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| Dec 1, 2004 || 24.164.250.43 || || Created "tgies" page

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| Dec 2, 2004 || 68.8.170.118 || || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]]

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| Dec 2, 2004 || 165.161.3.12 || || Blanked image and large section of [[Cold One]]
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| Dec 3, 2004 || 165.161.3.12 || || Deleted paragraph of [[Cold One]], again

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| Dec 3, 2004 || 65.41.171.114 || || Personally attacked [[User:Cheatasaurusrex]] by putting "I am a stupid guy" in the black space.

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| Dec 3, 2004 || 24.154.200.247 || || Placing derogatory marks on [[Talk:Main Page]]

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| Dec 3, 2004 || 129.2.222.251 || || Removed a section on [[HRWiki:About]]

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| Nov 7, 2004 || 24.225.134.107 || || Defaced [[Main Page]] and added horrible comment to [[Toons]], but removed his/her comment in Toons.
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| Dec 4, 2004 || 24.225.134.107 || || Trolled [[User:Happy|Happy]]'s userspace four times (left horrible comments three times, deleted a large portion of the page once)
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| Dec 4, 2004 || 24.225.134.107 || || Changed "Decemberween" to "Christmasween" in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]].

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| Dec 4, 2004 || 213.151.155.71 || || Added a degrading comment to [[:Image:trogdor.png]]

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| Dec 6, 2004 || 66.177.44.46 || || Trolled [[HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts]] twice
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| Dec 6, 2004 || 66.177.44.46 || || Created user page with foul language

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| Dec 6, 2004 || 68.39.170.49 || || Added "har har har" to [[HRWiki:About]].

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| Dec 7, 2004 || 152.163.100.203 || || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]].

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| Dec 7, 2004 || 65.117.156.222 || || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]] and [[Main Page]].

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| Dec 7, 2004 || 66.117.231.96 || || Removed the <nowiki>{{sandbox}}</nowiki> template from [[HRWiki:Sandbox]]

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| Dec 7, 2004 || 69.138.8.79 || || Added unneccesary comment to [[Main Page 22]]

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| Dec 7, 2004 || 61.49.205.85 || || Spammed [[cheatday]] and created twenty useless pages devoted to his/her spam.

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| Dec 7, 2004 || 156.63.21.14 || || Vanalized [[Main Page]]

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| Dec 9, 2004 || 142.177.79.134 || || Added keyboard mashings to [[army]].

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| Dec 9, 2004 || 66.167.217.47 || || Created worthless [[Wilbur]] page

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| Dec 9, 2004 || 219.134.99.206 || || Spammed Main Page and [[HRWiki talk:FAQ]].

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| Nov 10, 2004 || 69.136.111.77/[[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]] || || Trolled [[User Talk:FireBird]] twice by adding "I am dumb" and "I spelled Mozzillaa and grammar wrong", but then removed comments.
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| Dec 11, 2004 || 69.136.111.77/[[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]] || || Added rude and insulting comment to [[User Talk:FireBird]]. ("I don't like you.")

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| Dec 11, 2004 || 63.236.237.238 || || Trolled [[User:FireBird|Firebird]]'s user page by deleting it and talk by rewording it.

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| Dec 11, 2004 || 69.161.182.112 || || Added a false Linking Rule to the [[Links]] Page.

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| Dec 11, 2004 || 24.0.103.137 || || Spammed [[animal]].
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| Dec 12, 2004 || 24.0.103.137 || || Spammed 30+ pages, including [[Homestar Runner]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The Cheat]], and [[Strong Bad]] several other biography pages similarly. Also spammed [[Help:Contents]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]], and the [[Main Page]] repeatedly

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| Dec 2, 2004 || 129.100.206.107 || || Trolled [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac's]] user page by adding "I'm a dork. A huge dork and loser. DELORTED!"
|}

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
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! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
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| 12/13/2004 || [[User:24.197.22.58|24.197.22.58]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.197.22.58|all edits]]) || [[HRWiki:About]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AAbout&diff=26619&oldid=26618] || Added "say werd" to the About page.
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| 12/13/2004 || [[User:24.190.163.199|24.190.163.199]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.190.163.199|all edits]]) || [[HRWiki:Sandbox]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3ASandbox&diff=26627&oldid=26626] || Removed header at the top of the [[HRWiki:Sandbox]].
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| 12/13/2004 || [[User:70.240.248.4|70.240.248.4]] ([[Special:Contributions/70.240.248.4|all edits]]) || [[Matt Chapman]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Matt_Chapman&diff=26487&oldid=26380] (15 edits) || Drastically defaced [[Matt Chapman]].
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| 12/13/2004 || [[User:65.117.156.222|65.117.156.222]] ([[Special:Contributions/65.117.156.222|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=26891&oldid=26887], [[Strong Bad Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=26892&oldid=26888] || Defaced [[Strong Bad Email]] and [[Main Page]] for a second time. Last time was on Dec 7th.
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| 12/13/2004 || [[User:142.177.108.145|142.177.108.145]] ([[Special:Contributions/142.177.108.145|all edits]]) || [[super powers]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=super_powers&diff=27021&oldid=27011] || Added "DOUGLAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" to Fun Facts in [[super powers]].
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| 12/15/2004 || [[User:61.145.130.190|61.145.130.190]] ([[Special:Contributions/61.145.130.190|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=27194&oldid=27189] || Defaced [[Main Page]] with advertisement.
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| 12/15/2004 || [[User:70.17.153.105|70.17.153.105]] ([[Special:Contributions/70.17.153.105|all edits]]) || [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Decemberween_Sweet_Cuppin%27_Cakes&diff=27280&oldid=27271] || Trolled with "virus" quote, followed by "LOL!"
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| 12/15/2004 || [[User:68.104.169.110|68.104.169.110]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.104.169.110|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=5&diff=27369&oldid=27368] || Defaced several pages, including the [[Main Page]].
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| 12/16/2004 || [[User:66.51.194.61|66.51.194.61]] ([[Special:Contributions/66.51.194.61|all edits]]) || [[extra plug]] || Added his name to many a places in the transcript.
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| 12/16/2004 || [[User:134.9.15.38|134.9.15.38]] ([[Special:Contributions/134.9.15.38|all edits]]) || [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]] || Removed the inventory section and added "No Way!"
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| 12/16/2004 || [[User:24.22.102.26|24.22.102.26]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.22.102.26|all edits]]) || [[Whaddya Know, Haddi-Man?]] || Added nonsense
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| 12/16/2004 || [[User:69.154.209.207|69.154.209.207]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.154.209.207|all edits]]) || [Image:sbemail50.PNG][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=sbemail50.PNG&curid=2622&diff=27735&oldid=27732] || Trolled [Image:sbemail50.PNG].
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| 12/16/2004 || [[User:199.126.157.20|199.126.157.20]] ([[Special:Contributions/199.126.157.20|all edits]]) || [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Peasant%27s_Quest_Walkthrough&curid=3090&diff=27739&oldid=27737] || Removed "DRESS like a peasant" in [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]].
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| 12/16/2004 || [[User:68.184.255.94|68.184.255.94]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.184.255.94|all edits]]) || [[User:83.88.139.108]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:83.88.139.108], [[Homsar Runner]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Homsar_Runner]|| Created two pages apparently meant to troll users.
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| 12/16/2004 || [[User:199.126.35.93|199.126.35.93]] ([[Special:Contributions/199.126.35.93|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=5&diff=27782&oldid=27779], [[User:TheRealZajac]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:TheRealZajac&curid=4010&diff=27780&oldid=27776], [[Whaddya Know, Haddi-Man?]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Whaddya_Know%2C_Haddi-Man%3F&curid=3880&diff=27766&oldid=27763][[User:70.17.153.105]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:70.17.153.105&oldid=27764] || Trolled several pages including the [[Main Page]], added obscenities to [[User:TheRealZajac]], also threatened the site [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:TheRealZajac&oldid=27785](riiiiight...).
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| 12/17/2004 || [[User:216.120.190.30|216.120.190.30]] ([[Special:Contributions/216.120.190.30|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]], [[Strong Bad Email]], and WikiTroll || Defaced all three pages
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| 12/17/2004 || [[User:69.152.199.12|69.152.199.12]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.152.199.12|all edits]]) || [[3 wishes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=3_Wishes&diff=27953&oldid=27947] || Deleted page
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| 12/17/2004 || [[User:64.63.232.186|64.63.232.186]] ([[Special:Contributions/64.63.232.186|all edits]]) || [[User:Mr. Strong Bad]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3AMr._Strong_Bad&diff=0&oldid=28071] || Created and added gibberish to page
|-
| 12/18/2004 || [[User:24.95.42.131|24.95.42.131]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.95.42.131|all edits]] [[HRFWiki:Special:Contributions/24.95.42.131|all edits on fanstuff wiki]]) || Several pages on the [[HRFWiki:Main Page|Fanstuff Wiki]]; [[Strong Mad's Room]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Mad%27s_Room&diff=28440&oldid=28433], [[HRWiki:Projects]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AProjects&diff=28445&oldid=28441], [[HRWiki:Cleanup]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3ACleanup&diff=28443&oldid=28439], [[Main Page]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=28446&oldid=28444] || Trolled several pages, including making rude and very obscene comments. Should be blocked.
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| 12/18/2004 || [[User:68.10.80.125|68.10.80.125]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.10.80.125|all edits]] || [[Ballad of the Sneak]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Ballad_of_The_Sneak&diff=28457&oldid=28434] || Added rude comment
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| 12/16/2004 || [[User:68.215.158.33|68.215.158.33]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.215.158.33|all edits]]) || [Image:pomgirls.PNG][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Image%3Apomgirls.png&diff=28484&oldid=28474] || Defaced [Image:pomgirls.PNG].
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| 12/18/2004 || [[User:69.152.236.224|69.152.236.224]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.152.236.224|all edits]]) || [[Homestar Runner ]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&diff=28567&oldid=28561] || Defaced [[Homestar Runner]].
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| 12/18/2004 || [[User:70.64.34.61|70.64.34.61]] ([[Special:Contributions/70.64.34.61|all edits]]) || [[Strong Sad]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Sad&curid=956&diff=28735&oldid=28733] || Replaced text in [[Strong Sad]]'s bio with "Homsar rules".
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| 12/18/2004 || [[User:67.181.245.35|67.181.245.35]] ([[Special:Contributions/67.181.245.35|all edits]]) || [[radio]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=radio&curid=4163&diff=28768&oldid=28767] || Filled [[radio]] with links to online stores.
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| 12/18/2004 || [[User:68.91.91.113|68.91.91.113]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.91.91.113|all edits]]) || [[Gavin]][http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Gavin&diff=29043&oldid=29021] || Created [[Drasticpasticbarfmosis]] and included it on Gavin's page.
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| 12/20/2004 || [[User:60.55.58.202|60.55.58.202]] ([[Special:Contributions/60.55.58.202|all edits]]) || [[User talk:Kilroy]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKilroy&diff=29050&oldid=28799], [[HRWiki:Projects]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AProjects&diff=29061&oldid=28810], [[Talk:Floppy Disk Container Plus]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3AFloppy_Disk_Container_Plus&diff=28969&oldid=28785], [[Talk:your friends]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3Ayour_friends&diff=29065&oldid=28784] || Spammed several pages by adding useless links.
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| 12/20/2004 || [[User:210.49.167.191|210.49.167.191]] ([[Special:Contributions/210.49.167.191|all edits]]) || [[HRFWiki:Other Character Email The Poopsmith]] || Blanked page.
|-
| 12/20/2004 || [[User:60.55.57.90|60.55.57.90]] ([[Special:Contributions/60.55.57.90|all edits]]) || [[User talk:JoeyDay]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:JoeyDay&curid=739&diff=29200&oldid=29197] || Spammed page by adding useless links
|-
| 12/20/2004 || [[User: 24.209.223.70|24.209.223.70]] ([[Special:Contributions/24.209.223.70|all edits]]) || [[for kids]] || Added a fake transcript consiting of what seems to be a conversation with itself.
|-
| 12/21/2004 || [[User:69.110.228.72|69.110.228.72]] ([[Special:Contributions/69.110.228.72|all edits]]) || [[Homestar vs. Little Girl]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_vs._Little_Girl&curid=2869&diff=29244&oldid=29242] || Blanked transcript.
|-
| 12/21/2004 || [[User:68.39.156.170|68.39.156.170]] ([[Special:Contributions/68.39.156.170|all edits]]) || [[Main Page]] || Changed Secret Pages link, then reverted.
|-
| 12/21/2004 || [[User:63.127.54.121|63.127.54.121]] ([[Special:Contributions/63.127.54.121|all
edits]]) || [[Talk:Homestar's house]] || Added some immature comments
|-

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2004-11-26T21:40:17Z

fahooglewitz1077: /* Speaker sound */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's notable, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pok�mon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. The name you sign must match the name in the edit history of this page. That is, you may not sign your vote with a name other than the account you're using, even if you own both of them.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Strong Sad's face ====
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.

*'''Decline.''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. [[HRWiki:Once_And_Only_Once|Once and Only Once]] issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== One flash file ====
The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Dito. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Linux ====
[[Wikipedia:Linux|"Linux"]] is a [[Wikipedia:Free software|Free]] [[Wikipedia:Unix|Unix-like]] [[Wikipedia:Kernel (computer science)|kernel]] originally written for the [[Wikipedia:Intel 80386|386]] by [[Wikipedia:Linus Torvalds|Linus Torvalds]] in 1991, or part of an entire operating system which uses this kernel ([[Wikipedia:GNU/Linux|"GNU/Linux"]]).

*'''Modify and keep'''. This seems a bit long winded. It needs to be trimmed down.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I agree that it's interesting and that it probably could be trimmed down somewhat. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Needs the trimming. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''.→''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, keep'''. What about just linking to the Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Linux]] article while mentioning, quite simply, it's an operating system. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 12:59, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That's a good idea, Wikipedia links are helpful - if people want more info they can go there. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:17, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Oh, a wise guy, eh? ====
Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.

*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Accept'''. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Out in the black ====
Strong Bad being outside of "normal space" (where he exclaims "it is cold out here!") could be a reference to a bug/feature in Peasant's Quest where you can also end up "out in the black".

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Seems rather unlikely. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Not likely, that was a glitch. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. See previous. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:02, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Very unlikely. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:21, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Breaking the fourth wall ====
This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

*'''Trim and redirect'''. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite'''. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point DG. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Compy 386?? (page title) ====
The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. It's obvious and not exactly fun. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Bad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== Ain't that a drag? ====
Strong Bad sings the line, "Ain't that a drag?" just as the Cheat takes a long drag on his cigarette.

*This comment on a double-entendre was recently taken down without comment. Would anyone like to see it reposted, or should it stay in the graveyard? -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline'''. We can't really tell when The Cheat takes a drag or not. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*Check out his stomach rising and the exhale. But I suppose you could see it as The Cheat sighing. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Sill. I don't think it's really supposed to mean that. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. This isn't even remotely interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:41, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[little animal]] ===

==== sdrawkcab ====
The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Second.''' - It's more of an optical illusion.--[[User:24.117.186.168|24.117.186.168]] 20:52, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Fan-freaking-tastic ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Doesn't seem likely for some reason. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This saying was around long before that show ever aired.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' Stretch. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I hate that show. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. ====
This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' So what? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Speaker sound ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Nah. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' No.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' It's a general sound effect.
*'''Decline''' Notta. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' Nup. [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used all over the place. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Only if the sound is unusually reused is it interesting. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:44, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:40, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

===[[Halloween Fairstival]]===

==== Page title ====
The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Shin guards ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

*'''Decline:''' I don't know why this is here.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I think this is pretty obvious, and not very "fun" anyway.
*'''Decline.''' Eh, no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' ...and Halloween is a real event on 31 October every year. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' homestarrunner.com is a website. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:43, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Anyone born and raised on Earth who remembers their childhood should know what shin guards are. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Dripping towel noise ====
The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Like "The Paper coming down" Sound! -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:27, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Locka-room ====
The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]

==== Blue Star Ointment ====
Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Old man remedies ====
"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].

*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== Breath-holding skill ====
Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.

*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Philly Cheat Steak ====
"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== KoT and SBemail ====
When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Humminama What? ====
When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Creeping Death ====
The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== WEAR FLIP FLOPS. ====
In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[Wear a Bikini!|WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Irrelevant. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Strong Mad's laugh ====
Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]]. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' OK. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch." ====
(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

*'''Decline:''' Seems unlikely that it is intentional, or any more than a fluke of Flash Actionscript. -[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]]
**'''Second'''. It may be intentional. To bad nobody cares, though. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Second.'''. No one cares. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:38, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''. Nobody cares and it was most likely just a glitch. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 13:13, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Fifth. Or Second.''' See Mithent's comment. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:11, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2004-11-26T21:29:44Z

fahooglewitz1077: /* Shin guards */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's notable, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pok�mon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. The name you sign must match the name in the edit history of this page. That is, you may not sign your vote with a name other than the account you're using, even if you own both of them.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Strong Sad's face ====
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.

*'''Decline.''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. [[HRWiki:Once_And_Only_Once|Once and Only Once]] issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== One flash file ====
The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Dito. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Linux ====
[[Wikipedia:Linux|"Linux"]] is a [[Wikipedia:Free software|Free]] [[Wikipedia:Unix|Unix-like]] [[Wikipedia:Kernel (computer science)|kernel]] originally written for the [[Wikipedia:Intel 80386|386]] by [[Wikipedia:Linus Torvalds|Linus Torvalds]] in 1991, or part of an entire operating system which uses this kernel ([[Wikipedia:GNU/Linux|"GNU/Linux"]]).

*'''Modify and keep'''. This seems a bit long winded. It needs to be trimmed down.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I agree that it's interesting and that it probably could be trimmed down somewhat. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Needs the trimming. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''.→''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, keep'''. What about just linking to the Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Linux]] article while mentioning, quite simply, it's an operating system. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 12:59, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That's a good idea, Wikipedia links are helpful - if people want more info they can go there. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:17, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Oh, a wise guy, eh? ====
Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.

*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Accept'''. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Out in the black ====
Strong Bad being outside of "normal space" (where he exclaims "it is cold out here!") could be a reference to a bug/feature in Peasant's Quest where you can also end up "out in the black".

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Seems rather unlikely. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Not likely, that was a glitch. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. See previous. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:02, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Very unlikely. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:21, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Breaking the fourth wall ====
This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

*'''Trim and redirect'''. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite'''. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point DG. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Compy 386?? (page title) ====
The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. It's obvious and not exactly fun. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Bad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== Ain't that a drag? ====
Strong Bad sings the line, "Ain't that a drag?" just as the Cheat takes a long drag on his cigarette.

*This comment on a double-entendre was recently taken down without comment. Would anyone like to see it reposted, or should it stay in the graveyard? -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline'''. We can't really tell when The Cheat takes a drag or not. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*Check out his stomach rising and the exhale. But I suppose you could see it as The Cheat sighing. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Sill. I don't think it's really supposed to mean that. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. This isn't even remotely interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:41, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[little animal]] ===

==== sdrawkcab ====
The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Second.''' - It's more of an optical illusion.--[[User:24.117.186.168|24.117.186.168]] 20:52, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Fan-freaking-tastic ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Doesn't seem likely for some reason. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This saying was around long before that show ever aired.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' Stretch. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I hate that show. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. ====
This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' So what? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Speaker sound ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Nah. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' No.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' It's a general sound effect.
*'''Decline''' Notta. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' Nup. [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used all over the place. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Only if the sound is unusually reused is it interesting. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:44, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

===[[Halloween Fairstival]]===

==== Page title ====
The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Shin guards ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

*'''Decline:''' I don't know why this is here.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I think this is pretty obvious, and not very "fun" anyway.
*'''Decline.''' Eh, no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' ...and Halloween is a real event on 31 October every year. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' homestarrunner.com is a website. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:43, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Anyone born and raised on Earth who remembers their childhood should know what shin guards are. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:29, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Dripping towel noise ====
The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Like "The Paper coming down" Sound! -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:27, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Locka-room ====
The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]

==== Blue Star Ointment ====
Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Old man remedies ====
"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].

*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== Breath-holding skill ====
Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.

*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Philly Cheat Steak ====
"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== KoT and SBemail ====
When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Humminama What? ====
When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Creeping Death ====
The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== WEAR FLIP FLOPS. ====
In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[Wear a Bikini!|WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Irrelevant. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Strong Mad's laugh ====
Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]]. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' OK. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch." ====
(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

*'''Decline:''' Seems unlikely that it is intentional, or any more than a fluke of Flash Actionscript. -[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]]
**'''Second'''. It may be intentional. To bad nobody cares, though. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Second.'''. No one cares. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:38, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''. Nobody cares and it was most likely just a glitch. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 13:13, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Fifth. Or Second.''' See Mithent's comment. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:11, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2004-11-26T21:27:52Z

fahooglewitz1077: /* Dripping towel noise */

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<div id="shortcut" style="border: 1px dashed blue; margin: 0em 1em 0em 1em; text-align: center; padding:5px; float: right; clear: both;">
Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's notable, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pok�mon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. The name you sign must match the name in the edit history of this page. That is, you may not sign your vote with a name other than the account you're using, even if you own both of them.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Strong Sad's face ====
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.

*'''Decline.''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. [[HRWiki:Once_And_Only_Once|Once and Only Once]] issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== One flash file ====
The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Dito. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Linux ====
[[Wikipedia:Linux|"Linux"]] is a [[Wikipedia:Free software|Free]] [[Wikipedia:Unix|Unix-like]] [[Wikipedia:Kernel (computer science)|kernel]] originally written for the [[Wikipedia:Intel 80386|386]] by [[Wikipedia:Linus Torvalds|Linus Torvalds]] in 1991, or part of an entire operating system which uses this kernel ([[Wikipedia:GNU/Linux|"GNU/Linux"]]).

*'''Modify and keep'''. This seems a bit long winded. It needs to be trimmed down.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I agree that it's interesting and that it probably could be trimmed down somewhat. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Needs the trimming. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''.→''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, keep'''. What about just linking to the Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Linux]] article while mentioning, quite simply, it's an operating system. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 12:59, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That's a good idea, Wikipedia links are helpful - if people want more info they can go there. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:17, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Oh, a wise guy, eh? ====
Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.

*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Accept'''. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Out in the black ====
Strong Bad being outside of "normal space" (where he exclaims "it is cold out here!") could be a reference to a bug/feature in Peasant's Quest where you can also end up "out in the black".

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Seems rather unlikely. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Not likely, that was a glitch. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. See previous. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:02, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Very unlikely. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:21, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Breaking the fourth wall ====
This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

*'''Trim and redirect'''. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite'''. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point DG. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Compy 386?? (page title) ====
The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. It's obvious and not exactly fun. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Bad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== Ain't that a drag? ====
Strong Bad sings the line, "Ain't that a drag?" just as the Cheat takes a long drag on his cigarette.

*This comment on a double-entendre was recently taken down without comment. Would anyone like to see it reposted, or should it stay in the graveyard? -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline'''. We can't really tell when The Cheat takes a drag or not. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*Check out his stomach rising and the exhale. But I suppose you could see it as The Cheat sighing. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Sill. I don't think it's really supposed to mean that. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. This isn't even remotely interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:41, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[little animal]] ===

==== sdrawkcab ====
The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Second.''' - It's more of an optical illusion.--[[User:24.117.186.168|24.117.186.168]] 20:52, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Fan-freaking-tastic ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Doesn't seem likely for some reason. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This saying was around long before that show ever aired.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' Stretch. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I hate that show. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. ====
This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' So what? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Speaker sound ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Nah. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' No.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' It's a general sound effect.
*'''Decline''' Notta. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' Nup. [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used all over the place. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Only if the sound is unusually reused is it interesting. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:44, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

===[[Halloween Fairstival]]===

==== Page title ====
The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Shin guards ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

*'''Decline:''' I don't know why this is here.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I think this is pretty obvious, and not very "fun" anyway.
*'''Decline.''' Eh, no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' ...and Halloween is a real event on 31 October every year. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' homestarrunner.com is a website. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:43, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Dripping towel noise ====
The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Like "The Paper coming down" Sound! -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:27, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Locka-room ====
The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]

==== Blue Star Ointment ====
Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Old man remedies ====
"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].

*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== Breath-holding skill ====
Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.

*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Philly Cheat Steak ====
"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== KoT and SBemail ====
When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Humminama What? ====
When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Creeping Death ====
The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== WEAR FLIP FLOPS. ====
In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[Wear a Bikini!|WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Irrelevant. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Strong Mad's laugh ====
Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]]. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' OK. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch." ====
(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

*'''Decline:''' Seems unlikely that it is intentional, or any more than a fluke of Flash Actionscript. -[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]]
**'''Second'''. It may be intentional. To bad nobody cares, though. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Second.'''. No one cares. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:38, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''. Nobody cares and it was most likely just a glitch. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 13:13, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Fifth. Or Second.''' See Mithent's comment. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:11, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2004-11-26T21:15:52Z

fahooglewitz1077: /* WEAR FLIP FLOPS. */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's notable, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pok�mon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. The name you sign must match the name in the edit history of this page. That is, you may not sign your vote with a name other than the account you're using, even if you own both of them.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Strong Sad's face ====
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.

*'''Decline.''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. [[HRWiki:Once_And_Only_Once|Once and Only Once]] issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== One flash file ====
The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Dito. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Linux ====
[[Wikipedia:Linux|"Linux"]] is a [[Wikipedia:Free software|Free]] [[Wikipedia:Unix|Unix-like]] [[Wikipedia:Kernel (computer science)|kernel]] originally written for the [[Wikipedia:Intel 80386|386]] by [[Wikipedia:Linus Torvalds|Linus Torvalds]] in 1991, or part of an entire operating system which uses this kernel ([[Wikipedia:GNU/Linux|"GNU/Linux"]]).

*'''Modify and keep'''. This seems a bit long winded. It needs to be trimmed down.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I agree that it's interesting and that it probably could be trimmed down somewhat. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Needs the trimming. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''.→''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, keep'''. What about just linking to the Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Linux]] article while mentioning, quite simply, it's an operating system. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 12:59, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That's a good idea, Wikipedia links are helpful - if people want more info they can go there. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:17, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Oh, a wise guy, eh? ====
Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.

*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Accept'''. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Out in the black ====
Strong Bad being outside of "normal space" (where he exclaims "it is cold out here!") could be a reference to a bug/feature in Peasant's Quest where you can also end up "out in the black".

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Seems rather unlikely. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Not likely, that was a glitch. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. See previous. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:02, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Very unlikely. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:21, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Breaking the fourth wall ====
This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

*'''Trim and redirect'''. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite'''. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point DG. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Compy 386?? (page title) ====
The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. It's obvious and not exactly fun. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Bad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== Ain't that a drag? ====
Strong Bad sings the line, "Ain't that a drag?" just as the Cheat takes a long drag on his cigarette.

*This comment on a double-entendre was recently taken down without comment. Would anyone like to see it reposted, or should it stay in the graveyard? -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline'''. We can't really tell when The Cheat takes a drag or not. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*Check out his stomach rising and the exhale. But I suppose you could see it as The Cheat sighing. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Sill. I don't think it's really supposed to mean that. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. This isn't even remotely interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:41, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[little animal]] ===

==== sdrawkcab ====
The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Second.''' - It's more of an optical illusion.--[[User:24.117.186.168|24.117.186.168]] 20:52, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Fan-freaking-tastic ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Doesn't seem likely for some reason. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This saying was around long before that show ever aired.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' Stretch. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I hate that show. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. ====
This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' So what? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Speaker sound ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Nah. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' No.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' It's a general sound effect.
*'''Decline''' Notta. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' Nup. [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used all over the place. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Only if the sound is unusually reused is it interesting. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:44, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

===[[Halloween Fairstival]]===

==== Page title ====
The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Shin guards ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

*'''Decline:''' I don't know why this is here.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I think this is pretty obvious, and not very "fun" anyway.
*'''Decline.''' Eh, no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' ...and Halloween is a real event on 31 October every year. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' homestarrunner.com is a website. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:43, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Dripping towel noise ====
The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Locka-room ====
The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]

==== Blue Star Ointment ====
Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Old man remedies ====
"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].

*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== Breath-holding skill ====
Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.

*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Philly Cheat Steak ====
"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== KoT and SBemail ====
When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Humminama What? ====
When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Creeping Death ====
The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== WEAR FLIP FLOPS. ====
In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[Wear a Bikini!|WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Irrelevant. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:15, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Strong Mad's laugh ====
Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]]. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' OK. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch." ====
(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

*'''Decline:''' Seems unlikely that it is intentional, or any more than a fluke of Flash Actionscript. -[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]]
**'''Second'''. It may be intentional. To bad nobody cares, though. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Second.'''. No one cares. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:38, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''. Nobody cares and it was most likely just a glitch. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 13:13, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Fifth. Or Second.''' See Mithent's comment. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:11, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2004-11-26T21:14:28Z

fahooglewitz1077: /* Strong Mad's laugh */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's notable, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pok�mon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. The name you sign must match the name in the edit history of this page. That is, you may not sign your vote with a name other than the account you're using, even if you own both of them.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Strong Sad's face ====
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.

*'''Decline.''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. [[HRWiki:Once_And_Only_Once|Once and Only Once]] issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== One flash file ====
The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Dito. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Linux ====
[[Wikipedia:Linux|"Linux"]] is a [[Wikipedia:Free software|Free]] [[Wikipedia:Unix|Unix-like]] [[Wikipedia:Kernel (computer science)|kernel]] originally written for the [[Wikipedia:Intel 80386|386]] by [[Wikipedia:Linus Torvalds|Linus Torvalds]] in 1991, or part of an entire operating system which uses this kernel ([[Wikipedia:GNU/Linux|"GNU/Linux"]]).

*'''Modify and keep'''. This seems a bit long winded. It needs to be trimmed down.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I agree that it's interesting and that it probably could be trimmed down somewhat. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Needs the trimming. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''.→''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, keep'''. What about just linking to the Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Linux]] article while mentioning, quite simply, it's an operating system. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 12:59, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That's a good idea, Wikipedia links are helpful - if people want more info they can go there. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:17, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Oh, a wise guy, eh? ====
Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.

*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Accept'''. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Out in the black ====
Strong Bad being outside of "normal space" (where he exclaims "it is cold out here!") could be a reference to a bug/feature in Peasant's Quest where you can also end up "out in the black".

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Seems rather unlikely. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Not likely, that was a glitch. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. See previous. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:02, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Very unlikely. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:21, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Breaking the fourth wall ====
This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

*'''Trim and redirect'''. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite'''. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point DG. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Compy 386?? (page title) ====
The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. It's obvious and not exactly fun. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Bad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== Ain't that a drag? ====
Strong Bad sings the line, "Ain't that a drag?" just as the Cheat takes a long drag on his cigarette.

*This comment on a double-entendre was recently taken down without comment. Would anyone like to see it reposted, or should it stay in the graveyard? -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline'''. We can't really tell when The Cheat takes a drag or not. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*Check out his stomach rising and the exhale. But I suppose you could see it as The Cheat sighing. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Sill. I don't think it's really supposed to mean that. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. This isn't even remotely interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:41, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[little animal]] ===

==== sdrawkcab ====
The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Second.''' - It's more of an optical illusion.--[[User:24.117.186.168|24.117.186.168]] 20:52, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Fan-freaking-tastic ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Doesn't seem likely for some reason. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This saying was around long before that show ever aired.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' Stretch. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I hate that show. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. ====
This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' So what? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Speaker sound ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Nah. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' No.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' It's a general sound effect.
*'''Decline''' Notta. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' Nup. [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used all over the place. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Only if the sound is unusually reused is it interesting. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:44, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

===[[Halloween Fairstival]]===

==== Page title ====
The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Shin guards ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

*'''Decline:''' I don't know why this is here.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I think this is pretty obvious, and not very "fun" anyway.
*'''Decline.''' Eh, no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' ...and Halloween is a real event on 31 October every year. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' homestarrunner.com is a website. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:43, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Dripping towel noise ====
The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Locka-room ====
The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]

==== Blue Star Ointment ====
Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Old man remedies ====
"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].

*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== Breath-holding skill ====
Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.

*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Philly Cheat Steak ====
"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== KoT and SBemail ====
When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Humminama What? ====
When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Creeping Death ====
The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== WEAR FLIP FLOPS. ====
In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[Wear a Bikini!|WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Strong Mad's laugh ====
Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]]. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' OK. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' It's likely that Matt can't match everything he said earlier without it being somewhat altered. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch." ====
(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

*'''Decline:''' Seems unlikely that it is intentional, or any more than a fluke of Flash Actionscript. -[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]]
**'''Second'''. It may be intentional. To bad nobody cares, though. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Second.'''. No one cares. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:38, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''. Nobody cares and it was most likely just a glitch. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 13:13, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Fifth. Or Second.''' See Mithent's comment. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:11, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2004-11-26T21:11:46Z

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's notable, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pok�mon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. The name you sign must match the name in the edit history of this page. That is, you may not sign your vote with a name other than the account you're using, even if you own both of them.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Strong Sad's face ====
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.

*'''Decline.''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. [[HRWiki:Once_And_Only_Once|Once and Only Once]] issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== One flash file ====
The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Dito. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Linux ====
[[Wikipedia:Linux|"Linux"]] is a [[Wikipedia:Free software|Free]] [[Wikipedia:Unix|Unix-like]] [[Wikipedia:Kernel (computer science)|kernel]] originally written for the [[Wikipedia:Intel 80386|386]] by [[Wikipedia:Linus Torvalds|Linus Torvalds]] in 1991, or part of an entire operating system which uses this kernel ([[Wikipedia:GNU/Linux|"GNU/Linux"]]).

*'''Modify and keep'''. This seems a bit long winded. It needs to be trimmed down.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I agree that it's interesting and that it probably could be trimmed down somewhat. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Needs the trimming. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''.→''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, keep'''. What about just linking to the Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Linux]] article while mentioning, quite simply, it's an operating system. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 12:59, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That's a good idea, Wikipedia links are helpful - if people want more info they can go there. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:17, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Oh, a wise guy, eh? ====
Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.

*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Accept'''. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Out in the black ====
Strong Bad being outside of "normal space" (where he exclaims "it is cold out here!") could be a reference to a bug/feature in Peasant's Quest where you can also end up "out in the black".

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Seems rather unlikely. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Not likely, that was a glitch. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. See previous. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:02, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Very unlikely. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:21, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Breaking the fourth wall ====
This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

*'''Trim and redirect'''. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite'''. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point DG. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Compy 386?? (page title) ====
The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. It's obvious and not exactly fun. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Bad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== Ain't that a drag? ====
Strong Bad sings the line, "Ain't that a drag?" just as the Cheat takes a long drag on his cigarette.

*This comment on a double-entendre was recently taken down without comment. Would anyone like to see it reposted, or should it stay in the graveyard? -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline'''. We can't really tell when The Cheat takes a drag or not. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*Check out his stomach rising and the exhale. But I suppose you could see it as The Cheat sighing. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Sill. I don't think it's really supposed to mean that. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. This isn't even remotely interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:41, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[little animal]] ===

==== sdrawkcab ====
The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Second.''' - It's more of an optical illusion.--[[User:24.117.186.168|24.117.186.168]] 20:52, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Fan-freaking-tastic ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Doesn't seem likely for some reason. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This saying was around long before that show ever aired.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' Stretch. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I hate that show. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. ====
This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' So what? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Speaker sound ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Nah. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' No.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' It's a general sound effect.
*'''Decline''' Notta. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' Nup. [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used all over the place. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Only if the sound is unusually reused is it interesting. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:44, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

===[[Halloween Fairstival]]===

==== Page title ====
The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Shin guards ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

*'''Decline:''' I don't know why this is here.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I think this is pretty obvious, and not very "fun" anyway.
*'''Decline.''' Eh, no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' ...and Halloween is a real event on 31 October every year. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' homestarrunner.com is a website. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:43, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Dripping towel noise ====
The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Locka-room ====
The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]

==== Blue Star Ointment ====
Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Old man remedies ====
"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].

*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== Breath-holding skill ====
Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.

*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Philly Cheat Steak ====
"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== KoT and SBemail ====
When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Humminama What? ====
When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Creeping Death ====
The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== WEAR FLIP FLOPS. ====
In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[Wear a Bikini!|WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Strong Mad's laugh ====
Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]]. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' OK. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch." ====
(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

*'''Decline:''' Seems unlikely that it is intentional, or any more than a fluke of Flash Actionscript. -[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]]
**'''Second'''. It may be intentional. To bad nobody cares, though. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Second.'''. No one cares. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:38, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''. Nobody cares and it was most likely just a glitch. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 13:13, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Fifth. Or Second.''' See Mithent's comment. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:11, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

HRWiki:Old STUFF

2004-11-26T21:09:58Z

fahooglewitz1077: /* "I blew it, man... I lose my touch." */

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Shortcut: [[HRWiki:STUFF]]</div>The situation with fun facts was getting a bit out of hand, especially with the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[virus]]. People often add fun facts that most people just don't think are fun or factual. So, we have set up this page where you can '''S'''elect '''T'''he '''U'''sable '''F'''un '''F'''acts (STUFF).

Here's how it works. First off, you ''can'' still add a fun fact to the page directly. If somebody doesn't like it, though, it will probably be STUFF'D!, that is, moved to this list. If you think there is even a small bit of doubt as to whether or not everybody would agree it's notable, it should probably be added directly to this page instead. ''This will not be necessary for every page, only those that would otherwise likely be cluttered with fun facts. This applies mostly to pages reflecting new Homestar Runner content, for instance, the page for the latest Strong Bad Email.''

Things that always make good fun facts:
* References to other toons or e-mails that will be obvious to longtime users but not to newcomers
* References to pop culture (but not those that are so obvious that ''everybody'' will recognize them; everybody knows that Pikachu is a Pok�mon, for instance)
* ''Verified'' tidbits about the creation of the toon or e-mail (for example, "Mike, not Matt, provided the voice of Strong Sad saying 'Douglas'")

Things that often do not make good fun facts:
* Speculation ("This scene may be a reference to a vaguely similar scene in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...")
* Glitches due to the Flash software (unless the glitch may have a very amusing and relevant anecdote to go with it)
* Things already noted in the transcript
* Things that anybody can figure out by watching the toon or reading the transcript

Things that always make good fun facts can just be added directly to the appropriate page without going through the approval process. However, be careful with references: if it isn't ''necessarily'' true that the table turning into a black and red grid is a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], then you should probably post it here instead.

When something is posted here, you can vote on it. You should be logged in and sign your vote; anonymous votes do not count because it is easy for a single user to cast multiple votes. Signing your post with the name of another user in the hopes that it won't be noticed will definitely not be tolerated. This only applies to votes: fun facts may be proposed by any user and do not have to be signed (in fact, it is probably better not to sign them).

If the admins like a fun fact, they will immediately move it to the appropriate page as needed (regardless of votes). If they don't, they will wait a while until the fun fact has accumulated enough votes or a convincing argument is made.

If (and only if) you think a page needs this process, add <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts}}</nowiki></tt> directly under the <tt>== Fun Facts ==</tt> heading, then add the appropriate heading to this page. If the list is really long, you may want to add a <tt><nowiki>{{funfacts2}}</nowiki></tt> footer to the end of the list as well.

== Voting ==
New votes cast should generally be as follows:
* '''Accept.''' To accept a fun fact as-is, or possibly with very minor changes.
* '''Revise.''' The fun fact needs minor editing. Explain what needs to be changed (unless seconding another person's revise vote).
* '''Rewrite.''' The fun fact needs major changes. Explain what needs to be changed, and provide an example version. ''When an example is provided, it may be voted on independently. If somebody responds to a "rewrite" vote with "rewrite" as well, it will be taken to mean that the rewrite itself needs to be rewritten.''
* '''Decline.''' Reject the fun fact completely.
* '''Second.''' Write this as a sub-item to somebody else's vote when you want to make it clear that you agree not only with the person's vote, but his reasoning. (Don't respond to a "second" with a "third"; just make another "second" alongside the first one.)

The terms '''delete''' and '''keep''' are now discouraged because they convey the wrong idea: we will be voting mostly on whether to accept new fun facts, rather than on whether to retain existing ones.

'''Remember:''' you must be logged in to vote. If you don't have an account, [[Special:Userlogin|create one]]. It won't bite you. The name you sign must match the name in the edit history of this page. That is, you may not sign your vote with a name other than the account you're using, even if you own both of them.

== To be done ==

* How to distinguish between an approved fun fact and a directly-added fun fact on a page. Users would not be allowed to try and pass off their fun facts as approved if they weren't. ([[User:furrykef|furrykef]]'s current idea: tag each approved fun fact with a small star icon or other appropriate image.)
* Where, exactly, rejected fun facts and their recorded votes should go (probably on a subpage here)

== Toons and E-mails ==

=== [[virus]] ===
==== Strong Sad's face ====
[[Strong Sad]]'s face is a reference to current mood icons that are used in blogs such as [http://www.livejournal.com livejournal.com]. He uses these kinds of icons on his [[Strong Sad's Lament]] page.

*'''Decline.''' Isn't this already noted in the transcript? - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 09:53, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' I should know this was noted in the transcript because I was the one who wrote it up and put it in there. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:32, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not much of a reference, more like an occurance. Agree that this is noted in the transcript. [[HRWiki:Once_And_Only_Once|Once and Only Once]] issue. Reason: Duplicate information. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]]
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' OAOO. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:16, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't notice this. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**On the other hand, perhaps you should have. ;) The general rule is if it's in the transcript, it shouldn't be noted again unless there's additional information to note. In this case, there isn't. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 01:12, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== One flash file ====
The navigation and the email are combined into one flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words).

*'''Modify and keep.''' This is a depart from the normal for The Brothers Chaps but could use a re-wording.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep.''' I don't really know if it needs modifying, but it definitely should be kept, as TBC have never done it before. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because Homestar grabbing the words makes it pretty clear to anybody whom this would have any meaning that they are a single Flash file. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. Dito. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and accept.''' I think it should be changed to note that this is the ''only'' email in which the menu is part of the same flash file. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' It's an interesting fun fact. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:14, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Quadratic formula ====
[[Wikipedia:Quadratic formula|The quadratic formula]] is a mathematical equation used for finding solutions to quadratic equations.

*'''Delete'''. Not meaningful, fairly obvious [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Interesting.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. See Tom's note on it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Too obvious. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''- Not many peple know that --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
**You kidding?!?! I learned the quadratic formula in middle school! --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 15:00, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's probably one of the most well known mathmatical formulas, right up there with the pythagorean theorem.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''. This isn't fun at all. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Neither fun nor obscure. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Although I didn't know this, it is irrelevant. It is a bit like saying 'There are computers in real life that are like Strong Bad's computer'. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' On grounds of irrelevance. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 05:04, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Linux ====
[[Wikipedia:Linux|"Linux"]] is a [[Wikipedia:Free software|Free]] [[Wikipedia:Unix|Unix-like]] [[Wikipedia:Kernel (computer science)|kernel]] originally written for the [[Wikipedia:Intel 80386|386]] by [[Wikipedia:Linus Torvalds|Linus Torvalds]] in 1991, or part of an entire operating system which uses this kernel ([[Wikipedia:GNU/Linux|"GNU/Linux"]]).

*'''Modify and keep'''. This seems a bit long winded. It needs to be trimmed down.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I agree that it's interesting and that it probably could be trimmed down somewhat. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Needs the trimming. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''.→''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, keep'''. What about just linking to the Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Linux]] article while mentioning, quite simply, it's an operating system. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 12:59, 24 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' That's a good idea, Wikipedia links are helpful - if people want more info they can go there. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:17, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Pi ====
The issue number of the Teen Girl Squad is the first nine digits of Pi ("3.14159265 and the rest"). Pi is an [[Wikipedia:irrational number|irrational number]], so "the rest" would fill up an infinite number of pages.

*'''Modify and keep'''. While I think Pi is interesting enough to include, I don't think the "infinite number of pages" part is necessary.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''' Pi is pretty interesting in and of itself. I'm not so sure it needs altering, though. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Way too obvious. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. A little too obvious. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. The "infinite number of pages" part isn't needed. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
* '''Decline''' because anybody who could understand the concept of pi would probably already know about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' It is supposed to be a joke, not a hidden fun fact. Most people would realise that it is pi. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Oh, a wise guy, eh? ====
Strong Bad saying "Oh, a wise guy, eh?" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]], where [[Wikipedia:Curly|Curly]] uses the very same phrase often.

*'''Delete.''' I'm not convinced that no one besides Curly has used this phrase.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' I'm sure tons of other people besides Curly and Strong Bad have used this phrase. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
*'''Delete.''' This one seems kind of vague, though it definitely is a phrase associated with The Three Stooges. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''. I think it's good, it's interesting and not something everybody knows. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete.''' No evidence it's a reference. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. I don't think it's a reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because the phrase has also been used in many other places other than The Three Stooges and H*R. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Classic Three Stooges line. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Accept'''. I didn't know this before. I think it's interesting. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' Perhaps if it were a bit more 'fun.' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:05, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Out in the black ====
Strong Bad being outside of "normal space" (where he exclaims "it is cold out here!") could be a reference to a bug/feature in Peasant's Quest where you can also end up "out in the black".

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Seems rather unlikely. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Not likely, that was a glitch. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. See previous. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I don't think it is a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 23:02, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Very unlikely. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:21, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== 3D Bubs legs ====
When Bubs walks across the screen with Homestar's leg, his lower half is done in two layers of red and blue. Watching this scene with red and blue 3D glasses makes Bubs vaguely 3D. This is most likely a reference to "[[stunt double]]", in which Dangeresque 3 was supposed to be in 3D.

*'''Delete'''. Doubtful.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Eh. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify but keep'''. I doubt the stunt double thing, but keep the other part. It's hard to see at first because you focus on the rest of bubs more in that scene. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but maybe Modify'''. See previous anonymous vote. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''- Vaguely 3D???? --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline'''. I don't think The Brothers Chaps intended to reference stunt double on this one. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. I doubt it's a stunt double reference. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Remove bit about "stunt double"/"Dangeresque 3". - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''. Remove bit about stunt double. Yeah. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' Keep the bit about it being in 3D. "stunt double" isn't worth the bother. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite.''' If it is actually 3-D, then keep it, but take out the reference part. It is not a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Breaking the fourth wall ====
This is one of only a few emails where the characters seem to "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own. Other emails in which they do this are "[[flashback]]" (they extend the size of the display area and Homestar is "behind the black"), "[[for kids]]" where Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children at home watching the emails, "[[the process]]" (the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home), "[[huttah!]]", where The Cheat actually watches the e-mail on his own computer, and "[[extra plug]]" (the scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail give the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished).

*'''Trim and redirect'''. This sounds very well put together, but it's a bit much for a fun fact. It sounds like it could use a page of its own which could then be linked to from a much smaller fun fact.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:40, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep''' I'm not entirely sure it should be redirected to a seperate page, but it definitely needs to be cut down, as it's a whole paragraph. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. It's not literally true as stated (I've seen it said that, to the H*R crew, the SB e-mails are more of a live-action deal than cartoons, and I agree.) And it's useless. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite'''. This needs to be trimmed. It's a little too much information. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. There's too many 4th wall breakdowns for any to be worth noting. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify, keep''' This is definitely worth noting, but needs to be severely trimmed or maybe noted elsewhere. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Of course the characters are aware that they have an audience: the entire concept of the SBEmails hinges on this. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Good point DG. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
**'''Second.''' If they broke the fourth wall in the first sbemail, this instance isn't very special. - [[User:tender branson|tender branson]]

==== Compy 386 on e-mail menu ====
When this e-mail was posted to Homestarrunner.com, the Compy 386 was still used for the e-mail menu and appeared to be working fine.

*'''Modify'''. It could bear noting that the email menu hadn't been changed yet, but as it's written, it's a tad confusing. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Hold until tomorrow'''. This one is meaningless until the new e-mail comes out, or at least until a full week has gone by. They may be trying to keep the fate of the Compy secret until everyone gets a chance to see the new e-mail. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
**Good point. Now it's tomorrow and the fate of the Compy is somewhat established, but because it's not associated with any other e-mail it may as well be noted here, but with a link to a page with the transcript of the new e-mail menu scene. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete''' (or at least modify to refer to the new e-mail main page) --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:16, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth noting, and not too bad as is. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*<s>'''Decline''' because it's a little obvious (changing the menu would spoil the surprise) and the fun fact page is already cluttered. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)</s>
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline.''' Not fun. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Compy 386?? (page title) ====
The page title is "Compy 386??" to reflect the fate of the Compy.

*'''Keep'''. I think it's worthy enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. This one's okay. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Worth mentioning. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' because anybody reading the transcript or watching the toon can figure out why the page title is what it is. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. Any change in the standard browser window should be noted and kept 08:06 22 Nov 2004 (EST)
**The point is it's not any ''more'' notable than the other page titles. The page title is noted anyway; we don't have to make an additional fun fact about it. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 07:41, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. It's obvious and not exactly fun. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't even notice the page title was different until I saw this fun fact. -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Homsar's walking sound ====
The sound made when the "blocky" Strong Mad walks away is the same sound heard when Homsar walks towards the screen in "[[for kids]]".

*'''Delete'''. Wasn't this exact same fact listed somewhere else on the page already? It is interesting to note that M Strong Bad's walking noise is the exact same as Homsar's, but I don't think it's a specific reference. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. I think it's interesting, but take out the specific reference because that's a common sound for homsar. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep but Modify'''. Again, it's not a specific reference, just the sound Homsar always makes when he walks. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 14:41, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It should be modified to remove the specific for kids reference because that is always the sound heard when Homsar walks. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:35, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, keep'''. Chop off "for kids" part. --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, accept'''. Again, chop off "for kids" part. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Sounds are used over and over again on the site. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete.''' Heaps of sounds have been reused. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Edgar's anachronism ====
Edgar the Virus Hunter was written a year before the first computer virus was written. In 1983, US student Fred Cohen created the first documented virus as an experiment in computer security at the University of Southern California.

*<strike>'''Keep'''. Now this is a pretty interesting fact, and something I had no idea about. It might need to be trimmed somewhat, but otherwise this is good.</strike> --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 14:29, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Delete'''. I knew I should've checked this out before I voted. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 16:18, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep''', because it's a rather funny consequence of randomly picking an old date in the past for a fake copyright notice. A virus scanner with no viruses written yet! --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 15:13, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''', this is incorrect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus#History Wikipedia] lists the first computer virus made in 1982.
*'''Decline'''. Incorrect. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:37, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 16:53, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Rewrite, accept'''. While the first virus was indeed invented in 1982 (it seems), a general virus scanner couldn't possibly exist in 1982. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 18:06, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and keep''' As per kef's comment. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:29, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' -[[User:Dark Grapefruit|DG]] 22:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' Interesting. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Proposed Revision:''' Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982. [[User:FireLily|FireLily]]

=== [[montage]] ===

==== Ain't that a drag? ====
Strong Bad sings the line, "Ain't that a drag?" just as the Cheat takes a long drag on his cigarette.

*This comment on a double-entendre was recently taken down without comment. Would anyone like to see it reposted, or should it stay in the graveyard? -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*'''Decline'''. We can't really tell when The Cheat takes a drag or not. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*Check out his stomach rising and the exhale. But I suppose you could see it as The Cheat sighing. -[[User:Svelt|Svelt]]
*Sill. I don't think it's really supposed to mean that. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Decline'''. This isn't even remotely interesting. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:41, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Not interesting enough. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

=== [[little animal]] ===

==== sdrawkcab ====
The Olde Tyme version people run backwards in the Easter Egg.

*'''Delete'''. I've looked at it. They are most definitely NOT running backwards with respect to The Sneak. I also don't think they're running backwards with respect to the buildings in the background - it almost seems that the buildings in the background are just changing randomly. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 21:12, 21 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. The person who added this was probably refering to the way The Strong Bad's arms and legs move, but even so, the movement is too stiff to really tell, and is probably just an optical illusion. (run-on much?) --[[User:Paliosun|Paliosun]] 00:25, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete'''. Oh, come on. Did this person just think they were running backwards because of the way Strong Man was boucing? [[User:Astral Maelstorm|Acorn]] 02:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Keep'''. They look like they're running backwards to me. Plus, that used to be an old optical illusion. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete'''. I've personally NEVER thought they were running backwards, even for a second. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:01, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*Not a vote, but a comment (but personally I'd vote '''decline'''): we shouldn't use the process for old pages with few fun facts. See [[HRWiki talk:Select The Usable Fun Facts]]. - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 10:23, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**Sorry, but it kept getting deleted and added and deleted and added. I guess I didn't read the introduction closely enough and assumed this was for ALL controversial fun facts. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 12:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***It's fine, I guess we could use it for that, too, but that's not its main purpose. Though I don't wanna see the "Yeah, no" question being added here... :P - [[User:furrykef|[[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]])]] 19:20, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Second.''' - It's more of an optical illusion.--[[User:24.117.186.168|24.117.186.168]] 20:52, 25 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Shopping for Danger]] ===

==== Reynold and Ghostbusters ====
Reynold trying on the Justice Rocket Backpack may be a nod to ''Ghostbusters II''.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' This makes some sense, though it should be rewritten to reflect WHY it's a nod to Ghostbusters II. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This is a stretch and only for those who have seen the movie-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Modify, Keep''' Only if we can see why. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' -- [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Fan-freaking-tastic ====
'FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC' may be a reference to 'Sex in the City' or [[Cheat Commandos...O's]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Doesn't seem likely for some reason. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' This saying was around long before that show ever aired.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' Stretch. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' I hate that show. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== No Homestar, Pom Pom, etc. ====
This one sorta goes without saying, but this is the only 'toon in the full-length section that does not feature some form of Homestar or (believe it or not) Pom-Pom, and the only one besides [[The King of Town DVD]] that does not feature any of the three Brothers Strong or Marzipan.

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Keep''' It does bear noting, but conversational style = no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' So what? →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Modify and Keep''' I think they should delete the Brother's Strong bit. --[[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline.''' That's not very special. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Speaker sound ====
The sound for turning on the speaker in the easter egg might be a reference from the SBEmail [[theme park]].

*'''Delete''' [[User:heavy bolter|heavy bolter]] 06:31, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Delete''' Nah. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 10:09, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' No.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline''' It's a general sound effect.
*'''Decline''' Notta. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
*'''Delete''' Nup. [[User:Asploder|Asploder]]
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:44, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used all over the place. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' Only if the sound is unusually reused is it interesting. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:44, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

===[[Halloween Fairstival]]===

==== Page title ====
The page title is a reference to [[Malloween Commercial]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' How is this a reference?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' This probably is a reference to Marshie saying "Boogidy boogidy! I'll scare your dad!" in Malloween Commercial. I don't see why it should be removed. --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be a reference to the old song "The Streak" which had that as part of its chorus. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Revise'''. It needs to clearly state that it is ''quoting'' Malloween Commercial. Otherwise, I accept. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify and Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Shin guards ====
Shin Guards are used to protect your shins while sparring in sports such as Karate and Kickboxing.

*'''Decline:''' I don't know why this is here.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I think this is pretty obvious, and not very "fun" anyway.
*'''Decline.''' Eh, no. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' ...and Halloween is a real event on 31 October every year. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' homestarrunner.com is a website. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:43, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

==== Dripping towel noise ====
The dripping towel noise is the same as the dripping faucet noise from [[Main Page 14]].

*'''Accept:''' These sort of things are interesting, I guess...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' Not nearly interesting enough. Dripping water always sounds like dripping water. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 16:57, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' Sounds are re-used a lot anyway. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Locka-room ====
The "locka-room" may be a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]], wherein phrases such as "Unda-Wears" appear.

*'''Decline:''' This may also be a reference to the way Coach Z's speaks, or any number of things.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' It is similar to TGS in a way, but I doubt it's a reference to TGS in particular(or a reference at all). --[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' I wouldn't call it a reference. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Accept.''' It could also be referring to Strong Bad calling Homestar "undabite" in [[big white face]] and Blue Las-Alert. -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|My name is too long]]

==== Blue Star Ointment ====
Blue Star Ointment is a product used for ringworm and jock itch. It's frequently seen on the US version game show [[Wikipedia:The Price is Right|The Price is Right]].

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' Where does TPIR come in to this?-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Modify, Accept.''' Remove the bit about The Price is Right, and you have something worthwhile. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Old man remedies ====
"Grody old man remedies" may also refer to Peasant's Quest, in which the innkeeper has a closet full of "old man rub". Also, there is an "old lady rub" in [[Shopping for Danger]].

*'''Decline:''' This is a stretch.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User:Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' It could be, yet it's kind of shaky. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify, Accept''' [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' Three times is becoming a running gag? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:42, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Decline.''' - Can't it just be funny without being a reference? -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== Breath-holding skill ====
Homestar's breath-holding skill was first seen on the [http://homestarrunner.com/yearbook.html yearbook] characters page.

*'''Decline:''' ehh...-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline:''' I don't think that this is entirely relevant. Sure, Homestar did hold his breath on the Yearbook Characters Page, but that isn't really connected to him holding his breath in Fair-stival.
*'''Decline.''' This is a huge stretch, let's face it. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It is too trivial. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Philly Cheat Steak ====
"Philly Cheat-steak" is a reference to the popular sandwich "Philly Cheese Steak".

*'''Decline:''' Most people could figure this pun out for themselves.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Accept:''' I think that some people wouldn't know, though. It's not entirely self-evident.
*'''Accept.''' I think it's good enough to note. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' That's uber-obvious. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I've never heard of a Philly Cheese Steak. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*'''Modify, accept''' I think it's fine if it's accompanied by a wikipedia reference. I think it's only "uber-obvious" to us fast food eating americans :) [[User:MetaStar|MetaStar]]
**'''Second.''' I'm a Brit, so :) -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:46, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' I didn't know this! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

==== KoT and SBemail ====
When Strong Bad talks to the King of Town he does it in the style of a Strong Bad Email.

*'''Decline:''' Again almost anyone could figure this out-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' You'd have to be completely new to H*R to not get this. And if you're reading the Wiki, chances are you're not new to this. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 15:51, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
***'''Second.''' -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:41, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept''' I think it's an interesting idea. [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' That's the joke. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Humminama What? ====
When Bubs says "Humminama-What?",that is a reference to Under Construction, where Stinkoman says something similar.

*'''Decline:''' Similar, but not noteworthy-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Creeping Death ====
The sign at the auction where we see the Poopsmith and Pom Pom says "CREEPING silent DEATH auction" which could be reference to Metallica's "Creeping Death", which was a reference to one of the Plagues in The Bible.

*'''Accept/Rewrite:''' I can buy that this is a ref. to Metallica because TBC have other Metallica refs (see [[Carol]]). Also Creeping Death (caps) and silent auction (lower case) make sence together.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second''' [[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:56, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' It could just as easily be just a reference to general Halloween spookiness. --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline''' - The phrase "creeping death" is neither unique to Metallica nor popularized by them. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 10:48, 23 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== WEAR FLIP FLOPS. ====
In the haunted locka-room, there is a sign in the top-left corner that says, "WEAR FLIP FLOPS." This may be a reference to the in-joke "[[Wear a Bikini!|WEAR A BIKINI!]]" Or it may just be because it's good policy to wear flip flops in public showers.

*'''Decline:''' This is just good policy, not a ref. to wearing another article of clothing.-[[User:Your Fuzzy God|Fuzzy]]
*'''Decline.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]
*Without the green hair and red makeup, Strong Bad looks like the picture of Strong Bad with all white stuff on his face in the museum section of H*R website.
*'''Decline:''' Not relevant. -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
**'''Second'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline.''' What? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.''' - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== Strong Mad's laugh ====
Strong Mad's laugh is different in this toon than from the last time we heard it in [[helium]]. The latter toon had Strong Mad with a deep laugh, while this one features him with a raspy laugh much closer to his speaking voice.

*'''Decline:''' So, they changed his laugh. -[[User:Your_Fuzzy_God|Fuzzy]]
**'''Second:''' -[[User: Ogog|Ogog]]
*'''Decline.''' Yep, Strong Mad's voice has changed. Are we going to start noting every single time Matt starts altering character voices? --[[User:TheNintenGenius|TheNintenGenius]] 13:45, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Decline'''. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 22:07, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Accept.''' OK. - [[User:Rainer|Rainer]]

==== "I blew it, man... I lose my touch." ====
(After the bit about Homsar as Kumar from "Bottle Rocket")

In addition, his line ("I blew it, man... I lose my touch") is one of Kumar's lines from the film.

*'''Accept.''' I didn't know that. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:37, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
*'''Modify and Keep.''' I get it, but only after intensive decoding. This needs to be more readable. Interesting, though. -- [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:09, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

=== [[Broken Compy Menu]] ===

==== Large Blank Space ====
If you scroll all the way down the list of emails, there is a large blank space. This could be intentional.

*'''Decline:''' Seems unlikely that it is intentional, or any more than a fluke of Flash Actionscript. -[[User:Nerdular Nerdence|Nerdular Nerdence]]
**'''Second'''. It may be intentional. To bad nobody cares, though. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''
**'''Second.'''. No one cares. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:38, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)
**'''Second.'''. Nobody cares and it was most likely just a glitch. --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 13:13, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

HRWiki:Sandbox

2004-11-26T21:04:52Z

fahooglewitz1077:

{{sandbox}}
<sticks hands in sand>

Strong Bad 0wns you!

Your head a splode!

Minor signature tweak: --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 09:44, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

Old signature to compare: --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 09:45, 26 Nov 2004 (MST) No difference..

I might even redesign it in the future..!!

Seeing if this works. [[User:fahooglewitz1077|-- [[User:fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:04, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

HRWiki:Sandbox

2004-11-26T21:03:28Z

fahooglewitz1077:

{{sandbox}}
<sticks hands in sand>

Strong Bad 0wns you!

Your head a splode!

Minor signature tweak: --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 09:44, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

Old signature to compare: --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 09:45, 26 Nov 2004 (MST) No difference..

I might even redesign it in the future..!!

Seeing if this works. [[User:fahooglewitz1077|--[[User:fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:03, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

HRWiki:Sandbox

2004-11-26T21:01:01Z

fahooglewitz1077:

{{sandbox}}
<sticks hands in sand>

Strong Bad 0wns you!

Your head a splode!

Minor signature tweak: --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 09:44, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

Old signature to compare: --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]]] 09:45, 26 Nov 2004 (MST) No difference..

I might even redesign it in the future..!!

Seeing if this works. --[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077/[[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 14:01, 26 Nov 2004 (MST)

HRWiki:Sandbox

2004-11-26T20:58:56Z

fahooglewitz1077:

User talk:fahooglewitz1077

2004-11-26T20:53:59Z

fahooglewitz1077:

That was a stupid...thing. So I deleted it.
== Post Comments Here. ==

Hey fahooglewitz!!! -[[User:ThatGoblin|ThatGoblin]]
Hi.

Hey, you stole my welcome message! :P --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]] 14:16, 27 Oct 2004 (MST)

User talk:fahooglewitz1077

2004-11-26T20:53:16Z

fahooglewitz1077: /* Post Comments */

So.... What's up?
You can post comments here.
But let me finish my speech.
Or something.

'''AwesomeGuy:''' Hi Guys!

'''Me:'''What the CRAP? You intrude on my speech? And you still exist? I'm supposed to be you!

'''AwesomeGuy:'''The world just got a whole more confusing...

'''BAM!!!'''

'''FahoogleGuy:'''What the crap just happened?

== Post Comments Here. ==

Hey fahooglewitz!!! -[[User:ThatGoblin|ThatGoblin]]
Hi.

Hey, you stole my welcome message! :P --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]] 14:16, 27 Oct 2004 (MST)

HRWiki:WikiTroll

2004-10-27T21:04:37Z

fahooglewitz1077: /* Offenders */

Strong Bad Email

2004-10-27T21:02:53Z

fahooglewitz1077: Reverted version from 217.44.14.69

[[Image:sbemail.png|right|thumb|300px|Strong Bad checks his email.]]

[[Strong Bad]]'s emails are the most updated feature of the Homestar Runner website. Most of the inside jokes on the website (e.g., the [[Floppy Disk Container]]) come from here. A few characters were even created here!

== The Strong Bad Emails ==
<table width="100%">
<td width="33%" valign="top">
116. [[extra plug]] 
115. [[time capsule]] 
114. [[the facts]] 
113. [[pizzaz]] 
112. [[old comics]] 
111. [[other days]] 
110. [[for kids]] 
109. [[crying]] 
108. [[pom pom]] 
107. [[cheatday]] 
106. [[dangeresque 3]] 
105. [[replacement]] 
104. [[theme park]] 
103. [[haircut]] 
102. [[lunch special]] 
101. [[car]] 
100. [[flashback]] 
99. [[different town]] 
98. [[stupid stuff]] 
97. [[monument]] 
96. [[lackey]] 
95. [[the bet]] 
94. [[video games]] 
93. [[army]] 
92. [[kind of cool]] 
91. [[caffeine]] 
90. [[colonization]] 
89. [[local news]] 
88. [[couch patch]] 
87. [[mile]] 
86. [[no loafing]] 
85. [[2 years]] 
84. [[kids' book]] 
83. [[labor day]] 
82. [[impression]] 
81. [[date]] 
80. [[stunt double]] 
79. [[the process]] 
78. [[anything]] 
<td width="33%" valign="top">
77. [[suntan]] 
76. [[sibbie]] 
75. [[funny]] 
74. [[privileges]] 
73. [[mascot]] 
72. [[crazy cartoon]] 
71. [[2 emails]] 
70. [[big white face]] 
69. [[personal favorites]] 
68. [[caper]] 
67. [[autobiography]] 
66. [[the show]] 
65. [[unused emails]] 
64. [[english paper]] 
63. [[fingers]] 
62. [[interview]] 
61. [[monster truck]] 
60. [[huttah!]] 
59. [[marzipan (email)|marzipan]] 
58. [[dragon]] 
57. [[japanese cartoon]] 
56. [[current status]] 
55. [[cheat talk]] 
54. [[morning routine]] 
53. [[comic]] 
52. [[island]] 
51. [[website]] 
50. [[50 emails]] 
49. [[theme party]] 
48. [[ghosts]] 
47. [[new hands]] 
46. [[your friends]] 
45. [[techno]] 
44. [[lures & jigs]] 
43. [[little questions]] 
42. [[action figure]] 
41. [[invisibility]] 
40. [[vacation]] 
39. [[property of ones]] 
</td><td width="33%" valign="top">
38. [[helium]] 
37. [[dullard]] 
36. [[guitar]] 
35. [[sisters]] 
34. [[weird dream]] 
33. [[gimmicks]] 
32. [[flag day]] 
31. [[sugarbob]] 
30. [[12:00]] 
29. [[superhero name]] 
28. [[1 step ahead]] 
27. [[3 Wishes]] 
26. [[CGNU]] 
25. [[super powers]] 
24. [[the bird]] 
23. [[little animal]] 
22. [[sb_email 22]] 
21. [[cartoon]] 
20. [[spring cleaning]] 
19. [[tape-leg]] 
18. [[stand-up]] 
17. [[studying]] 
16. [[band names]] 
15. [[the basics]] 
14. [[duck pond]] 
13. [[i she be]] 
12. [[credit card]] 
11. [[i rule]] 
10. [[trevor the vampire]] 
9. [[i love you]] 
8. [[brianrietta]] 
7. [[halloweener]] 
6. [[depressio]] 
5. [[making out]] 
4. [[homestar hair]] 
3. [[butt IQ]] 
2. [[homsar (email)|homsar]] 
1. [[some kinda robot]]
</td>
</table>

== Not Quite Strong Bad Emails ==
The following shorts were originally associated in one way or another with the Strong Bad Emails. They are numbered by halves to show where they appeared chronologically in the list above. Number 99½ is not linked to from anywhere on the site, while the others do appear on the Shorts menu in the [[Toons]] section.

99½. [[Not the 100th Email!!!]] 
68½. [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] 
66½. [[Arcade Game]]

== Strong Bad Email Raps ==
The rap is the ditty Strong Bad does on the E-mail menu page.

===Current Email Rap===

* Huzzah, on the mike I'm droppin' scrollable science, and I'm scrollin' through the 'hood with my e-mail client. Huzzah!

===Previous Known Raps===

* Hold it. Control it. And buttons, come on, let's see you scroll it!
(On June 22, 2004 a click-and-drag scroll bar was added to this edition of the e-mail menu page.)
* Dear scroll buttons, let's not mince words. I love you guys!! [http://e2tl.playvectrex.com/jingles/sbemail_menu100.swf Listen] 
* I keep my buttons on scroll and all the ladies in check, did you find the spare key to my apartment yet? What!? (sounds like Wuh!) [http://e2tl.playvectrex.com/jingles/sbemail_menu95.swf Listen] 
* The scroll, the scroll, the buttons, the buttons, scrolling so smooth like the butter on a muffin. [http://e2tl.playvectrex.com/jingles/sbemail_menu90.swf Listen] 
* Chew-it chew-it scroll buttons! Chew-it chew-it rock on! I got scroll buttons like the day is long! I got scroll buttons like the day is long! [http://e2tl.playvectrex.com/jingles/sbemail_menu84_TGS4.swf Listen] 
* Scroll button, scroll button, one two, one two, and if you swing by my crib then I can scroll with you! [http://e2tl.playvectrex.com/jingles/sbemail_menu80_3.swf Listen] 
(Around mid-2003, "updated mondays" was replaced with "updated somedays.")
* '''Coach Z''': And if you're tryin' to fade me then ya must smoke crack. '''Strong Bad''': Scroll buttons, oh yeah, like that heart attack. [http://e2tl.playvectrex.com/jingles/sbemail_menu80_1.swf Listen] 
* Once again it comes scrollin' back, scroll buttons get ill like a heart attack! [http://e2tl.playvectrex.com/jingles/sbemail_menu69.swf Listen] 
* Scroll it out, just scroll it out, scroll buttons 2.0. [http://e2tl.playvectrex.com/jingles/sbemail_menu59.swf Listen] 
* Scroll-a buh-tone-es! [http://e2tl.playvectrex.com/jingles/sbemail_menu58.swf Listen] 
* Keep on scrollin' on, my scriggities. 
* 'Sup my scrollies? You guys are looking good. 
* Scroll buttons.. you guys okay? [http://e2tl.playvectrex.com/jingles/sbemail_menu38.swf Listen] 
* Oooh, fancy new scroll buttons. 

===Listen===
You can find mirrors of the old raps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/superferret111/swf/sbemail/

== Strong Bad Email Page Titles ==

* '''1-33''' ''except 5, 6, 20 and 22'': TANDY 400!!! (The computer Strong Bad uses.)
** 5 ([[making out]]): Frampton's Camel
** 6 ([[depressio]]): Tandy 500!!
** 20 ([[spring cleaning]]): Mandy 400!! (Strong Bad does some spring cleaning.)
** 22 ([[sb_email 22]]): The Lost Email! (It was censored)

* 34 ([[weird dream]]): Tangerine Dreams!! (Strong Bad's Tandy is broken so he uses The Cheat's computer)

* 35 ([[sisters]]): Tandy 400: The Big Comeback!! (Strong Bad returns to using his Tandy 400)

* 36-38 ([[guitar]], [[dullard]], [[helium]]): Tandy 400: Still Broken. (Strong Bad is still using his Tandy 400, but it's messed up.)

* 39-40 ([[property of ones]], [[vacation]]): Tandy 400: Still Bloke.

* 41 ([[invisibility]]): The Last Stand(y) of the Tandy 400. (Strong Bad replaces his Tandy 400 with a Compy 386.)

* '''42-current''', ''except 50, 66½, 68½, 70 and 99½'': Compy 386!! (Strong Bad's current computer.)
** 50 ([[50 emails]]): Lordy, Lordy! Look who's over there! (It's his fiftieth email.)
** 66½ ([[Arcade Game]]): Quite Exciting This Computer Magic! (Strong Bad gets a new arcade game.)
** 68½ ([[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]]): T-TV, TV Show! (referring to the background music during this. It's not an email, but that's still a weird title.)
** 70 ([[big white face]]): Compy 086!! (reference to the old Macintosh screen Strong Bad uses.)
** 99½ ([[Not the 100th Email!!!]]): Not the 100th Email!!!

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html Strong Bad Email menu]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.swf View the flash file for Strong Bad Email Menu]
[[Category: Strong Bad Email]][[Category: Lists]]

HRWiki:Welcoming committee

2004-10-27T20:36:26Z

fahooglewitz1077: /* Members */

Welcome to the Welcoming Committee of the [[Main Page|Homestar Runner Wiki]].

== Who We Are ==
The welcoming committee is a group of people who kindly greet new users and help them get started (if needed). If you want to help out, the most obvious thing you can do is post welcome messages, and be friendly and helpful with new users you meet. You can find a list of all our users at [[Special:Listusers]]. There's no way to order it by join date, but if you glance at it from time to time you should be able to recognize who's new.

Note that joining the committee confers neither responsibilities nor privileges, but you would be expected to do some welcoming (we won't want to simply clutter up this page with member names). You should also have a basic technical understanding of the wiki so that you can answer any questions they might have. When welcoming, you should be careful not to bite the new members (don't '''"yell"''', etc.).

Below is a list to which you can sign your name if you want to join our group.

== Standards for Welcoming ==

A good welcome message should be around the lines of

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:"Welcome to the Homestar Runner Wiki! If you have any questions, feel free to ask me (you should probably link your user name to "me") or any other users. We're glad to have you as a member!"

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or

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:"Welcome to the Homestar Runner Wiki! We're glad to have you as a member! If you need any help, ask me or any others on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee|Welcoming Committee]]. Again, welcome to the Homestar Runner Wiki!"

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or

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:Hello and welcome to the [[HRWiki:About|Homestar Runner Wiki]]! Hope you like it here, and stick around.

:Here are some tips to help you get started:

*Have a look at the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Index MediaWiki User's Guide].
*If you need help, post a question on the [[HRWiki_talk:FAQ|discussion page]] for the [[HRWiki:FAQ|FAQ]].
*Read the [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] of the Wiki.
*Remember that above all else, this is a collaborative knowledge-base dedicated to [[Homestar Runner]].
*Explore, and be sure to have fun!

:Good luck!

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privileges

2004-10-24T16:50:17Z

fahooglewitz1077: Correction on grammar

[[Image:sbemail74.png|thumb|"Thanks for all the privaleges. I guess."]]

== Summary ==
'''Strong Bad Email #74'''

Strong Bad upgrades The Cheat's privileges.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Homestar Runner]]

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Ooh hoo hoo hoo E-MAIL ME GIRL! ''{stops singing}'' Unh! Once times! Twice times!

''{reading}''

<pre>Dear strongbad,
did you ever think about letting the
cheat have some other privaleges
since he helps you so much.

from your friend crazyclemens</pre>

''{he says "crazyclemens" quickly}''
''{he pronounces "privaleges" as pri-vah-lah-gez}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Privileges eh, C.C.? It does seem like The Cheat is overdue. Let's see, the last time I upgraded his privileges was when I reinstated his bathroom privileges; which he had previously abused. Let's see when he's due for an upgrade. ''{calling out}'' Oh the Cheat! ''{The Cheat walks up behind him}'' Oh the Che-! ''{The Cheat says something and it surprises Strong Bad, causing him to fall off his stool}'' WHOAH! Geeze, the Cheat! Can't sneak up on a brother like that! Lemme see your Strong Bad Reward Score Card. ''{The Cheat holds up a card titled just that, with four out of five points punched in}'' Ooh! You only need one more point to become a medallion gold plus club member!

''{The Cheat squeaks with delight, and zips off. Chainsaw noises are heard}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' Ow! Both my face and hands!

''{The Cheat comes back}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bwahahaha! That's definitely worth a point. ''{He punches out the last hole}'' Alright! Now let's see what new privileges await you! ''{opens a file called "medalliongoldplus.txt"}'' Oh yeah, look at some of these! The crisper drawer, I know you've been wanting to get in there! Ooh, and the mute button! You could do plenty with that! These are WAY better than the rewards Bubs gives out for selling his magazine subscriptions! "Oh, save up points to win a tropical vacation!" What a scam that was. So what are you gonna do with your newfound powers, the Ch- ''{He turns to find that The Cheat has already left}'' Whuh? The Cheat?

''{The Cheat is in the crisper drawer in front of the TV, watching TV and randomly muting and unmuting it.}''
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{offscreen}'' Bing-bong!

''{The Cheat responds with Cheat noises, Homestar walks on with a pizza in hand.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, The Cheat! Bubs asked me to bring you this pizza you ordered. It's a large, thin crust, with mushrooms and Pop-tarts. ''{The Cheat squeaks}'' Okay! ''{Homestar puts the pizza on the couch}'' Soooo.... you wanna buy some magazine subscriptions?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{dismissively}'' Yeah, yeah, yeah...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aw, c'mon! Help me out! I'm trying to go to Acapulco.

''{Strong Bad peeks his head in}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, C.C., The Cheat ended up in the crisper drawer. So until next week, so long, and thanks for all the privalages... I guess...

''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*You can no longer click on the word "abused" when Strong Bad says it, but originally it restarted the toon. Maybe this was a placeholder for something else, who knows.
*You can click on the pizza box to see the top of it.
*You can click on the magazines after the paper comes down to see the "Hardest Chord Ever" (be sure to do this BEFORE torching them, see below.) Note: The kid playing the chord has eleven fingers!!! Talk about a difficult chord!
*After doing the above, you can also click on The Cheat's hand to get him to torch the lame magazines.

== Fun Facts ==
*"So long, and thanks for all the privalages" is a reference to Douglas Adams' book "So long, and thanks for all the fish".
*The Cheat is using the [[BMW Lighter]] to torch Homestar's magazines.
*The "living" truck in the TV show may be a reference to the Generation 2 Transformer Staxx, because his alternate mode was a truck. It may also be a reference to the movie "Christine", based on Stephen King's book about a living car that tried to kill people.
=== Contents of medalliongoldplus.txt ===
<pre>*Crisper Drawer Use(not for sleeping)
*Dominion over Pizza Toppings
*Mute Button on TV Remote
*Limited Use of Beamer Lighter
*Ghost-write issues of TGS
*Strong Mad Bath
*Friday Night Study Session
*Saturday Segwayday
*Strong Bad Math
*Use of Duct Tape
*Braces
*Uno</pre>
*In "Strong Bad Math" and "Strong Mad Bath" the M and the B are switched.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail74.html watch "privileges"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail74.swf view the flash file for "privileges"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Strong Bad Email]]
[[Category:The Cheat Filmography]]
[[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]]
[[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]]

privileges

2004-10-24T16:49:59Z

fahooglewitz1077: Correction on grammar

[[Image:sbemail74.png|thumb|"Thanks for a the privaleges. I guess."]]

== Summary ==
'''Strong Bad Email #74'''

Strong Bad upgrades The Cheat's privileges.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Homestar Runner]]

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Ooh hoo hoo hoo E-MAIL ME GIRL! ''{stops singing}'' Unh! Once times! Twice times!

''{reading}''

<pre>Dear strongbad,
did you ever think about letting the
cheat have some other privaleges
since he helps you so much.

from your friend crazyclemens</pre>

''{he says "crazyclemens" quickly}''
''{he pronounces "privaleges" as pri-vah-lah-gez}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Privileges eh, C.C.? It does seem like The Cheat is overdue. Let's see, the last time I upgraded his privileges was when I reinstated his bathroom privileges; which he had previously abused. Let's see when he's due for an upgrade. ''{calling out}'' Oh the Cheat! ''{The Cheat walks up behind him}'' Oh the Che-! ''{The Cheat says something and it surprises Strong Bad, causing him to fall off his stool}'' WHOAH! Geeze, the Cheat! Can't sneak up on a brother like that! Lemme see your Strong Bad Reward Score Card. ''{The Cheat holds up a card titled just that, with four out of five points punched in}'' Ooh! You only need one more point to become a medallion gold plus club member!

''{The Cheat squeaks with delight, and zips off. Chainsaw noises are heard}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' Ow! Both my face and hands!

''{The Cheat comes back}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bwahahaha! That's definitely worth a point. ''{He punches out the last hole}'' Alright! Now let's see what new privileges await you! ''{opens a file called "medalliongoldplus.txt"}'' Oh yeah, look at some of these! The crisper drawer, I know you've been wanting to get in there! Ooh, and the mute button! You could do plenty with that! These are WAY better than the rewards Bubs gives out for selling his magazine subscriptions! "Oh, save up points to win a tropical vacation!" What a scam that was. So what are you gonna do with your newfound powers, the Ch- ''{He turns to find that The Cheat has already left}'' Whuh? The Cheat?

''{The Cheat is in the crisper drawer in front of the TV, watching TV and randomly muting and unmuting it.}''
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{offscreen}'' Bing-bong!

''{The Cheat responds with Cheat noises, Homestar walks on with a pizza in hand.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, The Cheat! Bubs asked me to bring you this pizza you ordered. It's a large, thin crust, with mushrooms and Pop-tarts. ''{The Cheat squeaks}'' Okay! ''{Homestar puts the pizza on the couch}'' Soooo.... you wanna buy some magazine subscriptions?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{dismissively}'' Yeah, yeah, yeah...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aw, c'mon! Help me out! I'm trying to go to Acapulco.

''{Strong Bad peeks his head in}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, C.C., The Cheat ended up in the crisper drawer. So until next week, so long, and thanks for all the privalages... I guess...

''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*You can no longer click on the word "abused" when Strong Bad says it, but originally it restarted the toon. Maybe this was a placeholder for something else, who knows.
*You can click on the pizza box to see the top of it.
*You can click on the magazines after the paper comes down to see the "Hardest Chord Ever" (be sure to do this BEFORE torching them, see below.) Note: The kid playing the chord has eleven fingers!!! Talk about a difficult chord!
*After doing the above, you can also click on The Cheat's hand to get him to torch the lame magazines.

== Fun Facts ==
*"So long, and thanks for all the privalages" is a reference to Douglas Adams' book "So long, and thanks for all the fish".
*The Cheat is using the [[BMW Lighter]] to torch Homestar's magazines.
*The "living" truck in the TV show may be a reference to the Generation 2 Transformer Staxx, because his alternate mode was a truck. It may also be a reference to the movie "Christine", based on Stephen King's book about a living car that tried to kill people.
=== Contents of medalliongoldplus.txt ===
<pre>*Crisper Drawer Use(not for sleeping)
*Dominion over Pizza Toppings
*Mute Button on TV Remote
*Limited Use of Beamer Lighter
*Ghost-write issues of TGS
*Strong Mad Bath
*Friday Night Study Session
*Saturday Segwayday
*Strong Bad Math
*Use of Duct Tape
*Braces
*Uno</pre>
*In "Strong Bad Math" and "Strong Mad Bath" the M and the B are switched.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail74.html watch "privileges"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail74.swf view the flash file for "privileges"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Strong Bad Email]]
[[Category:The Cheat Filmography]]
[[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]]
[[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]]

privileges

2004-10-24T16:49:40Z

fahooglewitz1077: Thumbnailed. Last.

[[Image:sbemail74.png|thumb|"Thanks for a the privaleges. I guess.]]

== Summary ==
'''Strong Bad Email #74'''

Strong Bad upgrades The Cheat's privileges.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Homestar Runner]]

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Ooh hoo hoo hoo E-MAIL ME GIRL! ''{stops singing}'' Unh! Once times! Twice times!

''{reading}''

<pre>Dear strongbad,
did you ever think about letting the
cheat have some other privaleges
since he helps you so much.

from your friend crazyclemens</pre>

''{he says "crazyclemens" quickly}''
''{he pronounces "privaleges" as pri-vah-lah-gez}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Privileges eh, C.C.? It does seem like The Cheat is overdue. Let's see, the last time I upgraded his privileges was when I reinstated his bathroom privileges; which he had previously abused. Let's see when he's due for an upgrade. ''{calling out}'' Oh the Cheat! ''{The Cheat walks up behind him}'' Oh the Che-! ''{The Cheat says something and it surprises Strong Bad, causing him to fall off his stool}'' WHOAH! Geeze, the Cheat! Can't sneak up on a brother like that! Lemme see your Strong Bad Reward Score Card. ''{The Cheat holds up a card titled just that, with four out of five points punched in}'' Ooh! You only need one more point to become a medallion gold plus club member!

''{The Cheat squeaks with delight, and zips off. Chainsaw noises are heard}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{offscreen}'' Ow! Both my face and hands!

''{The Cheat comes back}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bwahahaha! That's definitely worth a point. ''{He punches out the last hole}'' Alright! Now let's see what new privileges await you! ''{opens a file called "medalliongoldplus.txt"}'' Oh yeah, look at some of these! The crisper drawer, I know you've been wanting to get in there! Ooh, and the mute button! You could do plenty with that! These are WAY better than the rewards Bubs gives out for selling his magazine subscriptions! "Oh, save up points to win a tropical vacation!" What a scam that was. So what are you gonna do with your newfound powers, the Ch- ''{He turns to find that The Cheat has already left}'' Whuh? The Cheat?

''{The Cheat is in the crisper drawer in front of the TV, watching TV and randomly muting and unmuting it.}''
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{offscreen}'' Bing-bong!

''{The Cheat responds with Cheat noises, Homestar walks on with a pizza in hand.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, The Cheat! Bubs asked me to bring you this pizza you ordered. It's a large, thin crust, with mushrooms and Pop-tarts. ''{The Cheat squeaks}'' Okay! ''{Homestar puts the pizza on the couch}'' Soooo.... you wanna buy some magazine subscriptions?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{dismissively}'' Yeah, yeah, yeah...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aw, c'mon! Help me out! I'm trying to go to Acapulco.

''{Strong Bad peeks his head in}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, C.C., The Cheat ended up in the crisper drawer. So until next week, so long, and thanks for all the privalages... I guess...

''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*You can no longer click on the word "abused" when Strong Bad says it, but originally it restarted the toon. Maybe this was a placeholder for something else, who knows.
*You can click on the pizza box to see the top of it.
*You can click on the magazines after the paper comes down to see the "Hardest Chord Ever" (be sure to do this BEFORE torching them, see below.) Note: The kid playing the chord has eleven fingers!!! Talk about a difficult chord!
*After doing the above, you can also click on The Cheat's hand to get him to torch the lame magazines.

== Fun Facts ==
*"So long, and thanks for all the privalages" is a reference to Douglas Adams' book "So long, and thanks for all the fish".
*The Cheat is using the [[BMW Lighter]] to torch Homestar's magazines.
*The "living" truck in the TV show may be a reference to the Generation 2 Transformer Staxx, because his alternate mode was a truck. It may also be a reference to the movie "Christine", based on Stephen King's book about a living car that tried to kill people.
=== Contents of medalliongoldplus.txt ===
<pre>*Crisper Drawer Use(not for sleeping)
*Dominion over Pizza Toppings
*Mute Button on TV Remote
*Limited Use of Beamer Lighter
*Ghost-write issues of TGS
*Strong Mad Bath
*Friday Night Study Session
*Saturday Segwayday
*Strong Bad Math
*Use of Duct Tape
*Braces
*Uno</pre>
*In "Strong Bad Math" and "Strong Mad Bath" the M and the B are switched.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail74.html watch "privileges"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail74.swf view the flash file for "privileges"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Strong Bad Email]]
[[Category:The Cheat Filmography]]
[[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]]
[[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]]

funny

2004-10-24T16:47:46Z

fahooglewitz1077: Thumbnailing

[[Image:funny.png|thumb|Strong Bad bounces on his head.]]

== Summary ==
'''Strong Bad Email #75'''

Strong Bad answers an e-mail in the funniest. Way. Ever.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Bubs]], [[The Cheat]], [[Homestar Runner]] (easter egg)

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Watch me do a little bit o' e-mail, and I'll watch you do a little bit o' ''{screen reads "File Not Found," as Strong Bad accidentally typed "stongbad_email.exe"}'' Whoa--that's never happened before. ''{singing}'' Watch me do a little bit o' e-mail, and I'll watch you do a little bit o' ''{email loads properly this time}'' Whoa--that's never happened befo--oh wait, it's an e-mail. That ''has'' happened before. And quite a few times if I remember correctly. Alright, so...

''{reading}''

<pre>Dear Strong Bad,

Respond to this E-Mail in the
funniest way ever.

From Sam</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Let's see here...I can tape this blank floppy disk to my head ''{he doesn't actually type blank}'' and start talking gibberish and acting like the crazy squeaky guy. LEEKO! LEEKO! LEEKO! I'm a squeaky guy! ''{jumps up on the table and starts dancing around}'' I got squeaky pants! Come check out my squeaky pants dance! Squee squaw squee squaw squee squaw ''{a bottle of ketchup falls from the ceiling into his hands and he starts pouring it over everything and hitting the keyboard with his foot, producing "WHOA!! I CAN TYPE WITH ONE FOOT!"}'' punkity punkity punkity punkity punkity punkity punkity punkity punkity punkity punkity punkity! Aunt Ruthie! Aunt Ruthie! There's ketchup on the computer! Halzee-WHOOP!

''{He leaps from the table backwards and starts bouncing around the floor on his head}''

Punk-REER! Punk-REER! Punk-REER! Punk-REER! Punk-REER! Punk-REER!

''{He runs up to Strong Sad and starts yelling rhyming gibberish at him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Jor Jee Jibbera Jaw! Huppidda Roopja Oop Jup Jaw! Ooka Oog

''{Strong Sad begins talking over him.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Quit that!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ooka Reetoo Taw!

'''STRONG SAD:''' You're freakin' me out.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{pauses shortly, then continues}'' Eeckoo Ickoo Ickoo Slaw! Hooka Hoo Ha!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Did you take some of my pills again?

''{Cut to Compy. Bubs and The Cheat are dipping fries in the ketchup poured over the computer.}''

'''BUBS:''' You know what? You're right, The Cheat! This computer catsup is better than the regular kind! Or that purple kind.

''{Strong Bad walks back in}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Alright alright. Clear outta here, you two! 'Cept for you, The Cheat. ''{The Cheat grumbles}'' You better start cleaning this mess up!

'''BUBS:''' What happened in here? Some type of ketchup bomb go off?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Nah, not really. I was answering an e-mail and dancing and acting like a squeaky guy and I started throwing ketchup everywhere.

'''BUBS:''' Oh. That's pretty cool.

''{Strong Bad does a double-take behind him to make sure nobody's around.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sotto voce to Bubs}'' Hey man, are ketchup bombs real?

'''BUBS:''' Not yet! ''{walks off}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{to the Cheat}'' Well? Aren't you gonna go get your 409 or Awesome Sauce or whatever you're gonna clean this up with? ''{The Cheat squeaks at him and starts heading off}'' Maybe a moist chamois? ''{tries a fry with the computer ketchup}'' Ooh! This computer ketchup ''is'' pretty good! Needs more RAM, though. Maybe a couple of megachips.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*If you click on the floppy disk on his head while he is bouncing and spinning on his head, Homestar will come out to say something funny. It may take a few tries to get it, you have to be quite quick.
*At the very end you can click on blob of ketchup near the left fries to see the ketchup bottle.

== Fun Facts ==
*If you watch carefully you'll see that he types, "WOAH!! I CAN TYPE WITH ONE FOOT" when he is jumping around
*Wondering why it said "file not found" the first time? Look closely and you'll see that he types "stongbad_email.exe" (the r is missing). This may be a reference to [[50 emails]].
*When he says "I could put this blank floppy disk on my head" he does not type the word blank.
*The ketchup bottle falls from the sky into his hand.
*[http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=chamois Chamois] is actually pronounced "Shammy." Strong Bad pronounces it "Sham-oyce," like it's spelled.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail75.html watch "funny"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail75.swf view the flash file for "funny"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Strong Bad Email]]
[[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]]
[[Category:Bubs Filmography]]
[[Category:The Cheat Filmography]]
[[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]]

sibbie

2004-10-24T16:46:01Z

fahooglewitz1077: Also Thumbnailed

[[Image:sbemail76.png|thumb|"Thanks Man! I'd just about had it with that talking toaster."]]

== Summary ==

'''StrongBadEmail #76'''

Strong Bad tries his hardest not to write or sing a song about sibbie.

We also get to see some of Strong Bad's wrestling moves for the first time.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Announcer]], [[Coach Z]] (easter egg), [[Strong Mad]] (easter egg)

== Transcript ==

'''Strong Bad:''' Email! Email! Email! Email!

''{reading email}''

<pre>Dear Strong Bad,

You rock! Your are the most awesomest thing ever, but how come you made a song about fhqwhgads?</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{stops reading}'' Woah. Spelled fhqwhgads right. You wouldn't believe how many I get where they're like, "Hey Strong Bad, I love your fubugrass." Or "Dear Strong Bad, where's that fuguman?" Anyways... ''{continues reading}''

<pre>Will you make a song about me?

Sibbie.</pre>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh... ''{typing}'' You people and your demands. Look, I'm not here to fulfill your every freakin' whim, alright? Make a song about me. Send Trogdor over to my house. Put on a purple thing and dance around! Well, I've had it! I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever make a song about the sibbie. ''{A beat starts playing in the background, and Strong Bad types and reads along with it}'' And I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever write a song about HEY! WHAT!?? Where's that beat coming from?

''{Zoom out a bit. Strong Bad turns to the side and sees The Cheat bobbing around as he plays a keyboard}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ohh, look who thinks he's Clever Dan. What are you trying to do, man? Get out of here! ''{The Cheat picks up the keyboard and walks behind Strong Bad's computer}'' Well, that brought this email to a screeching halt. My focus is all... crokused. Guess it's time for a break!

''{Strong Bad exits stage left. The Cheat peeks up from behind the computer. Cut to Strong Bad's Basement. Strong Bad enters stage right}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And... whoop! ''{He leaps over the back of the couch, sitting down to watch TV}'' Oh, this is the one where the guy's mom shows the guy's girlfriend the pictures of the guy when he was a baby.

'''TV VOICE:''' MOM!!! ''{laughter}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, the embarassment!

''{Strong Sad enters stage left, listening to an iPod}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ... never, ever, ever, ever, ever write a song about sibbie.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, shut up! Where'd you hear that?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Geez, I don't know. Some song I just downloaded off the Internet.

'''STRONG BAD:''' What the...?! Ugh... I gotta get out of here. ''{He exits stage left}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{walks towards stage right}'' And I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever...

''{Cut to The Field. Homestar Runner is standing next to a radio, occasionally bobbing left and right to the music.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing on the radio}'' And I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever write a song about sibbie.

''{Strong Bad enters stage right}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{on the radio}'' And coming in at number 4, that was Strong Bad with "Song About Sibbie."

'''STRONG BAD:''' I didn't write a song about sibbie! The Cheat just started playing some beat, I mean, I wasn't even... I didn't mean to... it was never my intention to... I FREAKIN' HATE SIBBIE!

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' And debuting at number 3, it's Strong Bad with "I Freakin' Hate Sibbie!"

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing on the radio}'' I freakin' hate sibbie...

'''STRONG BAD:''' '''''AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!'''''

''{As he shouts, he picks up the radio and piledrives it, then kicks it over, then slams it backwards over his head, damaging it so that it stops playing. He then stands up, breathing hard}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks, man! I'd just about had it with that talking toaster.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==

*Click on the words "purple thing" to see Strong Bad doing his "Fruit-of-the-Loom" impression.
*At the very end you can click on the radio to see Strong Bad teaching a class how to say, "[[fhqwhgads]]"

== Fun Facts ==
*While watching Strong Bad teach the class, Strong Mad comes up and says, "Douglas!" This is a reference to [[cheat talk]]

*On Strong Sad's iPod it says "playlists", "songs" and "settings"

*The game on the floppy disk "50K Race/Walk" is one of the games put out by Videlectrix.

*Strong Bad says his focus is "crokused." Krokus is an awesome metal band also mentioned, along with Motorhead, in [[band names]].

*When Strong Bad sings the sibbie song, he uses the words 'about the sibbie', whereas the Internet/Radio version uses the words 'about sibbie', removing the 'the'.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail76.html watch "sibbie"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail76.swf view the flash file for "sibbie"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Strong Bad Email]]
[[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]]
[[Category:The Cheat Filmography]]
[[Category:Homestar Runner Filmography]]
[[Category:Strong Sad Filmography]]
[[Category:The Announcer Filmography]]
[[Category:Coach Z Filmography]]
[[Category:Strong Mad Filmography]]

suntan

2004-10-24T16:44:20Z

fahooglewitz1077: Thumbnailed

[[Image:sbemail77.png|thumb|Strong Bad Tanning?]]

== Summary ==
'''Strong Bad Email #77'''

Strong Bad discovers the awesomeness of black marker on stomach. Who needs pecs when you've got abs?

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[The King of Town]], [[Marzipan (character)|Marzipan]], [[The Announcer]], [[Strong Sad]], [[Homsar (character)|Homsar]] (easter egg)

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I met her in the summertime. Her name was... ''{high pitch singing}'' e-mail!

''{reading}''

<pre>Hey Strong Bad,

I thought you looked cute as a
Japanese cartoon with the blue hair
and everything. ^_~ I was thinking
you might look even better if you got
out in the sun and got a nice tan. I've
heard that a nice tan really
helps your muscles stand out.

Meg,
KS</pre>

''{Strong Bad says "EEEO HE! I think that's how you say that..." for "^_~"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' That's a good point, KS. With the summer months all up on us, I'll probably be going shirtless more often than usual. I know one thing the ladies love more than a regular Strong Bad is a lightly toasted Strong Bad. ''{clears screen}'' And I guess it'll help to accentuate my abdominal muscles and my abs, and my cloits. They're already bulging all over the place as it is, but I guess a little more definition wouldn't kill me.

''{Cut to Strong Bad lying on a towel, sunbathing in the field. Next to him are buckets labeled 'Animal Phat - "it's lard, yo!"' and 'cocoa butter'}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Alright c'mon sun, show me what you got. Don't pull no punches neither. I want the real radioactive stuff.

''{enter stage right, The King of Town, wearing round sunglasses}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{Sniffs}'' Oh there it is!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{rising from his towel}'' There what is?

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ooh nothing. Hi Strong Bad. How are you this day?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, I was certainly better before you showed up. I'm still doing pretty good.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{sneakly stealing the cocoa butter while Strong Bad isn't looking}'' Oh good, Oh, well that's all I wanted to know. I guess I'll be moving to a different smell-- place. ''{shoots off stage right taking the cocoa butter}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What the-? Hey! He took my cocoa butter!

''{The King of Town peeks back in and grabs the Animal Phat with his invisible hands}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? Aw!

''{The words 6-8 hours later in the Compy 386 font appear on screen. Cut to Strong Bad sunbathing again. His chest is now extremely pink. Marzipan enters with a large green oriental style umbrella}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Bad, how long have you been laying here?

'''STRONG BAD:''' I dunno, six, maybe eight hours.

'''MARZIPAN:''' You know, you're supposed to flip over every 15 minutes or so...

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? Who wants a tan on their back? There's no abs to accentuate. Not like up here. ''{stands, admiring his non-existant abs}'' Ooh, check it out, Ab City, USA, ''{Shaking hips. We can see that Strong Bad's back is lily-white.}'' do do do.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Bad, I don't see a single ab.

'''STRONG BAD:''' What are you talking about, it's like a cold one brewery over here, there's so many six-packs. ''{producing a sharpie marker}'' check it out, ''{drawing abs onto his chest}'' one, two, threefourfivesix. Oops, forgot the hatching. ''{adds shading}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Aren't you supposed to have pecs?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Don't need em! That's why they call me Double A. All Abs.

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's weird.

''{Marzipan exits stage right}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, I bet I could make some serious dough off this idea. I could be like, a thousandaire, or at least a hundredaire.

''{cut to fake ad, with Strong Bad's Ab-Abber 2000 zooming in slowly}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Introducing the all new Strong Bad Ab-Abber 2000! Get results like the the professionals in ''{words appear on screen}'' Minutes! Nay! Seconds! Just listen to this guy over here!

''{cut to Strong Sad holding the Ab-Abber 2000}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{sounding like he is reading off of a tele-prompter}'' Since using Strong Bad's Ab-Abber Two Thousand ''{pronounces thousand as Thous And}'' the ladies have been all up ons. ''{talking to someone off camera}'' All up ons? I don't even know what that means?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{off camera}'' Well, Strong Sad, it means they really like you.

'''STRONG SAD:''' But they don't! Especially now with all this sharpie on my stomach.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Just read the lines man.

''{Strong Bad's hand appears on camera holding what appears to be a plush lobster}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Do you want to see Goobliss again or what?

'''STRONG SAD:''' You leave Gooby out of this!

''{Cut to: Close up of the Ab-Abber 2000 box with words 'Act Now!' flashing at the top of the screen}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Act now and recieve the Cloitserizer ''{words appear at bottom of screen}'' Abs-solutely free! ''{words disappear}'' Max out your ''{words appear flashing in center screen}'' Cloits and Dloits!!?! with the ease of a thousandaire. Strong Bad's Ab-Abber 2000. ''{words appear}'' "They'll be all up ons!"

''{[[The Paper]] appears}''

== Easter eggs ==
*Click on the little "G" tag (right side, up near Strong Bad's hand) on Strong Sad's lobster [[Gooblies]] to see a Homsar Celebrity testimonial.
*Click on the marker at the end of the email to see the instructions for Strong Bad's Ab-Abber.

== Fun Facts ==
*The first bucket says "Animal Phat". Phat is a slang word meaning cool, although it's intended to mean actual fat in this case. This ties in with the second phrase on the bucket: "It's lard, yo!", both a reference to the fact of the bucket's contents and the whole ridiculous slang/rap thing.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail77.html watch "suntan"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail77.swf view the flash file for "suntan"]

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