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Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 16.2

2009-03-02T23:38:39Z

Zonis: /**/Greetings Weary Traveller, I sense you are....

== Lack of phone ==
Is this the first time we see the entire table? Marzipan appears to have an answering machine, but no phone.
:No, it's not. and it's always been suggested that the phone is elsewhere in the house. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:51, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

== Wait, Stong? ==

are we all sure marzipan says "stong" instead of "strong"? because i've listened to the line over and over, and i think i can hear the "r" --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman (Neumannz)]] 17:26, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
:I listened to it 8 times by this point, 6 while i was making the edit, and i hear no r whatsoever. I am 100% positive about this. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:29, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
::I don't think it's an intentional use of "Stong Sad" though. Sounds more like "stchong" than anything to me. I'd say change it to strong and accept that Missy probably just wasn't focused on enunciating when trying to sound upset. If she had meant it to be stong to bring up a previous reference it would have been more clearly pronounced. [[User:DaOysterboy|DaOysterboy]] 21:04, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Intentional or not, it's what she said. Heck, half of the instances of [[stong]] are typoes and thus unintentional. This would just be the verbal equivalent of a typo. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:36, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

== Shadows? ==
I don't know how to put this into words, but when Strong Sad's at the toilet there are shadows on the spots where his feet were when he was talking to Homestar. If someone could add that, that would be great. {{User:Coach z's cool/sig}} 21:37, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
:I wouldn't call them shadows... I think they're more like impressions, coz he stands in that one spot at all other times during the toon. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:39, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

== Greetings Weary Traveller, I sense you are.... ==

The beginning of Strong Sad's first greeting seems like a reference to Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective. "Bongiorno! I'm known around these parts as Stinky the Peeve. I sense that you are looking for information!" --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 23:38, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:4 Gregs

2009-02-17T03:23:21Z

Zonis: /**/G

== The inside refrence no one has been waiting for!==

The toon menu description(The spin-off no one has been waiting for!)is a refrence to narrator.--[[User:Mariofan1000|Mariofan1000]] 08:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
"The spin-off no one was ''asking'' for" is what it says actually, but you're right, this is a reference to something, I just can't remember what.

:[[Strong Badman Characters#Scanton|The CROSSOVER no one was asking for!]] [[Special:Contributions/216.11.35.3|216.11.35.3]] 16:31, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

== Unwritten Fun Facts ==

Who's doing the Explanations, Remarks, and Real-World References? {{User:Neox/sig}} 09:41, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Whoever has one to plug in. Duties aren't assigned, and fun facts are never "inprogress". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::I just added a RWR. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to try to go back to sleep kthxbai. Insomnia sucks. Good night! {{User:Neox/sig}} 10:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Indeed, many toons ''don't'' have all three of the categories you mentioned, because there's nothing to say. It's not an automatic "this is a toon, so it '''always''' has Explanations, Trivia, Remarks, and both types of References" sort of deal. (Not saying that this toon can't have them. Just saying it's not automatic. The subcategories are added as needed.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:07, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

== 5 Gregs??? ==

Shouldn't it be noted that there's a regular Greg, making it 5 Gregs? [[User:Kumquaticus|*BOOM!*Kumquaticus*BOOM!*]] 12:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:He's not part of the gang, I guess. [[Special:Contributions/72.95.4.185|72.95.4.185]]

== Misspelled Japanese? ==

Regarding the Okasan remark: I dunno, I'm kinda hesitant to say a transliteration of a japanese word is misspelled. It depends on the system of romanization you use. The fact we have is kind of akin to saying "Tokyo is misspelled. It is more properly spelled Tookyoo or Toukyou" -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.171|132.183.151.171]] 17:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing. Besidies, I don't think the a with the macron is in the font. Also, it wouldn't fit over ''moms'' very well if there were two a's. --[[User:Alexie|Alexie]] 17:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

In either romanization, it should be spelled "okāsan" or "okaasan" not "okasan". The difference between "Tokyo" and "okāsan" is that "Tokyo" is technically an English word, just like "Japan" is an English word and not a romanization of a Japanese word. It might also be worth mentioning that he mispronounced the word. He prounouced it like it was spelled (with one 'a') instead of how "okāsan" is supposed to be pronounced; which is why that macron or second 'a' is so important. "Okasan" literally means "hill-three" or "Mr. Hill". Incidentally, "Tokyo" in Japanese would be either "Tōkyō" or "Toukyou", but not "TooKyoo". Just sayin' :P {{User:TrueTsumetai/sig}} 01:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:The pronunciation part has some merit, I agree. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 01:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Unpluralized plurals? ==

So I remember from a while back a conversation about adding a page for unpluralized plurals... using a singular for something that would ordinarily be pluralized (like Bubs' quote "And it sold like [[DNA Evidence|'''hotcake!''']]"). The page wasn't created because there weren't three instances, but now we have Tompkins' quote "Ow! All my '''client!'''" There was a third instance way back, but now it's slipped out of my head, if anyone can recall it... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 19:23, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:I can, it was my idea, and it's on a main page talk archive somewhere. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:25, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::[[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 23#Singularized pluralizations|Here it be.]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Ah yes, "the '74s was the prime of my dating [[Decemberween Short Shorts|'''year''']]" was the third example. I'd say this merits a page, although there is the issue of finding a good commando name... {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 19:30, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

== Can you use this pic I made? ==
[[:Image:Sci-FiGregUhh.PNG]] {{User:Neox/sig}} 21:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Use it for what? Where? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

== HAXXORED ==

Is that a real word or isn't it? {{User:Coach z's cool/sig}} 22:41, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:It's as much of a real word as any [[internet slang]] is... so it depends on your definition of "real word". Mine says "no". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::But it is not a word created by the Brothers Chaps. People use it on the internet. It means "Hacked". {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Is that what they're saying? ==

When the teen girl squad voice says "SciFi Greg, 1 Greg, D n' D Greg, 2 Greg, etc., the article says "D n' D Greg, 2 Gregs, with an s. But in the toon, they say it without an s and write it without one until they say "4 Gregs!" I hope I didn't confuse anyone... Let me know if I totally lost everyone.
:You're right! I fixed it in the transcript. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== "Both my names" ==

A reference to Cheerleader and Virginia/Joy/Jennifer? Maybe? [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] 00:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== Spread ==

I am a football freak, and i know terms when i see them. The spread is an offense which usually consists of 3 to 5 wide recievers. To beat the spread, is to have a defense in which the spread is negated. The explanations say it is a gambling thing, which could be correct, but, it does not apply to this.
:I think the gambling definition fits the context better. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 00:45, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::How? They're at a FOOTBALL game. I think the football definition fits a whole lot better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:47, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::People spread bet on football all the time. Saying "at least" beat the spread seems to imply that the mascot doesn't believe the team can win, but they should at least try to beat the spread number set by bookies. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 00:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Or it could mean "at least make one decent play" {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:55, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Of course. I said that I think it fits the gambling context better, meaning it fits both to a degree. It's pretty ambiguous. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.17|128.103.10.17]] 00:59, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::And i'm saying that i'm not sure that's the case. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

== G ==

The G on the chest of The Mascott/Greg from AP Math class is another reference to [[G]]'s. --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 03:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Best Caper Ever

2009-02-10T06:51:46Z

Zonis: /**/sketchbook?

The doctor and vet explanation - that makes no sense to me. But I'd like to offer someone the opportunity to explain it or clean it up a little. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

== Tv Time ==

In the T.V. Time Toons Menu preview, there's visible static to the left of the image. --[[Special:Contributions/66.29.169.1|66.29.169.1]] 00:53, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
:Already noted on the toons menu page. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:22, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Caper Page? ==

Should there be a Caper page now?
References now include [[Best Caper Ever]], [[Caper]] (and subsequent song), [[Ballad of the Sneak]] and [[Dangeresque: Puppet Squad]]. --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 06:41, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== Sat Phone ==

Should there be an explaination for Satalite Phones (and perhaps the Flare Gun as well?) --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 06:43, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== sketchbook? ==

The image of Homestar being lured onto a Cargo plane looks quite simular to a picture of him from the Sketchbook for August 18th, 2006, http://hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Sketchbook060818.png . The only difference I can see is that Homestar is facing the other way, has his usual Star in the pic, and his tounge is sticking out. --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 06:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Best Caper Ever

2009-02-10T06:43:07Z

Zonis: /**/Sat Phone

Talk:Best Caper Ever

2009-02-10T06:41:42Z

Zonis: /**/Caper Page?

Best Caper Ever

2009-02-09T07:17:37Z

Zonis: /* Inside References */ trash can

{{toonnav|Shorts|bestcaper|Coach Z's 110%|Strong Bad Sings}}

[[Image:Best Caper Ever.png|thumb|"You're a polar bear, right?'']]

Strong Bad some how manages to pull off the best caper ever... if he could only remember it.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}, {{film|Bubs}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Wikipedia:Arctic Ocean|Arctic Ocean]], [[The House Of The Brothers Strong]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' Monday, February 9, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 2:43

'''Page Title:''' Total Coincidence! Not Intentional!

==Transcript==
''{slow fade to a closeup of Homestar Runner}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Man, what should I do today? ''{takes a deep breath and turns the other way}'' I just wander what I should be doing today, you know? ''{shakes head}'' I just can't stop wondering what I maybe could be should be doing today?

''{cut to a long shot of Homestar standing alone on an ice floe, with an iceberg visible in the back}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' Man. ''{the echo is heard; Homestar looks around}''

''{cut to a closer shot}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' Oh, I know! I can pretend that one leg is short than the other again. ''{Homestar lifts his right leg and lets it swing freely}'' ''{softly}'' It doesn't touch.

''{cut to a long overhead shot of Homestar drifting which crossfades to a slightly grainy black white pictures with the legend Satellite Feed in the lower right corner}''

''{camera pulls back to reveal the TV is sitting in The House of The Brothers Strong}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So you have no idea how we pulled this off?

''{reverse shot of Strong Bad and The Cheat watching the television}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{uncertain The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, let's retrace our steps. We stole Homestar's melonade.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{nodding}'' ''{affirmative The Cheat noise}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You made pee-pee in said melondade.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{embarrassed affirmative The Cheat noise}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And now he's on a tiny ice floe in the middle of the Arctic somehow.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{enthusiastic affirmative The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I think we might be missing a few key steps there.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{shrugging}'' ''{uncertain The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Come on, man! This is like our best caper ever, and we don't even remember what we did!?

''{cut back to Homestar. A black lump can be seen floating off to frame left.}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' Okay. Bye, bloated sea lion carcass! ''{singsong}'' Thanks for stopping by! ''{cut to a medium shot}'' Marzipan, we've got to have them over more often. They are a riot! ''{Homestar looks over his shoulder, annoyed}'' Hm! ''{He starts shaking his body in random directions, grunting}'' That is it, satellite phone! You've poked me for the last time! ''{He tosses the phone into the ocean}'' You too, flare gun. ''{He drops the gun into the ocean}''

''{cut back to Strong Bad and The Cheat, laying on the carpet}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You're sure you don't remember like tricking Homestar to get on a cargo plane, ''{sketch of Homestar running towards a plane with a sign saying "Free Pile" appears over them}'' maybe bribing some walruses, ''{sketch of The Cheat with feet giving money to three walruses appears and fade}'' or maybe experimenting with the folding of space-time? ''{sketch of a diagram of a black hole, The Cheat with [[Cool Shades|glasses]], and math equations}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{negative The Cheat response}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So, the only thing we know for certain is you made wee ''{a picture of a glass of melonade appears}'' in Homestar's melonade and he's stuck ''{picture of a globe appears with a circle around it pointing to a tiny Homestar}'' on the other side of the globe in which we mysteriously have satellite coverage. ''{a satellite appears next to the globe}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noise}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's it, I'm taking you to the vet!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{leaps up, makes scared The Cheat noise}''

''{cut back to a medium shot of Homestar standing on the ice floe}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' All right. At this point, I'm willing to admit that maybe, ''just maybe'', this ''{close-up of Homestar}'' isn't Marzipan's new patio. I should probably yell for help.

''{cut to a long shot}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' Larry! ''{echo is heard}''

''{cut back to a close-up}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' Larry sounds like the kind of guy that get me out of this jam!

''{cut back to long shot}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' ''{voice breaking}'' Larry! ''{echo}''

''{cut back to close-up}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' Homestar? ''{echo}''

''{cut to a medium shot. Strong Sad is drifting in frame left, reading a book}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, would you please keep it down?

'''HOMESTAR:''' Oh, great! Strong Sad! You're a polar bear, right?

''{close-up of Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' Use your frost breath to turn me into an ice cube, so future generations can thaw me out ''{cut back to a medium shot of the two of them}'' so they can marvel at my same length legs!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Boy, did I pick the wrong hemisphere to aimlessly drift through this year....

''{black card with an iceberg and the word "end." appears}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on the period to see a scene with Strong Bad and The Cheat at Bubs' Concession Stand.
:''{The Cheat is on the counter of the stand, beside Bubs, while Strong Bad looks on. A sign is taped on the counter, reading, "BUBS A VET NOW! GET IT"}''
:'''BUBS:''' ''{to Strong Bad}'' And I'm gonna need you to fill ''this'' up.
:''{He takes out a trash can, which has a fill line drawn on it and a "Grody Sample" label taped to it}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa-ho-ho. Sorry, The Cheat.
:'''BUBS:''' ''{suddenly angry}'' I'm not looking at The Cheat!
:''{Strong Bad looks surprised}''

==Fun Facts==
===Inside References===
*The Cheat sabotaged Homestar's [[Melonade|melonade]] by [[peeing]] into it.
*The Satellite Feed monitor resembles the security camera monitor from [[date]].
*The Trash Can is the same one that appeared in [[bike thief]]

===Real-World References===
*The "Total Coincidence! Not Intentional!" title, is referring to the cartoon's unfortunate timing - It was released the day after 134 people were rescued from a freeflowing sheet of ice that broke off into [[Wikipedia:Lake Erie|Lake Erie]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:bestcaper.html|Watch "Best Caper Ever"]]
*[[HR:bestcaper.swf|View the Flash file for "Best Caper Ever"]]

[[Category:Shorts]]

Talk:Date Nite

2009-02-09T06:17:32Z

Zonis: /**/lack of visible arms reference

{{talk|11290}}
== What about a SECRET Hot Date ==

Is there a connection between the "secret hot date" Cardboard Marzipan invited the Cheat on and the "hot date" they actually went on? Is the fact that there are fireworks in both of the cartoons relevant? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}
:Might even mention the end of [[do over]] in relation to this too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, there's definitely been a pattern here. also note the "who's making out with marzipan" line from the cheat's theme song. that was probably the first lead in, or whatever --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
Also peculiar that Marzipan doesn't seem to mind The Cheat's small talk about two Ira's, after being annoyed by Homestar's two Sid's in [[date]]. [[User:61.149.38.114|61.149.38.114]] 13:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Well, Homestar was playing a stupid, boring game that she had no hope of winning. The Cheat was actually holding a conversation. -[[User:Wrath|Wrath]]
::The "Making out with Marzipan" thing was a reference to the [[Homestar Talker]] game. The original wining phrase was "Making out with Marzipan is totally awesome." {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:04, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

== Irony ==

Is it worth mentioning that Strong Bad proposes that they drown the Cheat and Marzipan, but in the end it is Homestar and Strong Bad who are drowned? {{unsigned|75.85.125.208|22:58, 23 April 2007}}

:That's along the lines of explaining the joke, something not normally done around here unless it's rather obscure. Also, please sign your talk page posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>){{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Public Rage-o flyer ==

The broken glasses could be a play off of the glasses Ira Glass wears. (They look quite similar) Anyone else think so? -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 08:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, I thought the same thing. Weird when you see radio people on TV. It's always like "I don't know what I would have expected him to look like, but it just ain't that." {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, the first rule of thumb for all radio personalities is to [[:Image:deadlypallor.png|look]] absolutely nothing like how they sound. =3 {{User:Trey56/sig}} 08:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh yeah, forgot we'd already had a lesson on that. Glass actually comes ''close'' to what you'd (I'd) expect him to look like, but just not quite. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 09:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Truly, he looks just different enough so as to throw you off. It's like he has his own personal [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley uncanny valley] ;¬) -Cappy Red [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 15:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== 8-Bit resemblence ==

i'm not suggesting anybody uses this, but does any one else notice any echoes of Black Mage from 8-bit theater in Strong Bad when he's discussing the drowning of Marzipan and the Cheat? especially the "Explain to me how drowning them wouldn't ruin their date" line. it's funny, but that's just me.
--[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
:Strong Bad always sounds like that. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]

Heh, that is totally something BM would say. [[User:The makuta|The makuta]] 13:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like a combonation of BM and Bob from Bob and George. But mostly BM. [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 15:19, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

== Mario ==

I obviously thought of Mario when Strong Bad said "Itsa me, the chef-a", but I don't know if it's really that clear. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 09:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Mario has a bad Italian accent too, yes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 09:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:One of Mario's catchphrases is "It's-a me! Mario!" I thought of Mario as well. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Stereotypical Italian, probably. I thought it was Mario as well, but an Italian seems more practical. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Shockingly, Mario ''is'' Italian. and we know TBC are nintendo guys, i'd expect them to have had mario in the front of their minds as a role model for a fake-italian accent --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]
::::I immediately thought of Mario. It brought me back to my N64 days. The startup screen..."Itsa me! Mario! *doo doo doo doo doo doo* Hello!" --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 22:03, 24 Apr 2007 (UTC)
:::::Methinks it's a stereotypical Italian chef. Not Mario. It's POSSIBLE, but I doubt it. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::Not possible. It's stereotyped Italian, just as Mario is. If it's like Mario, it's stereotypical Italian, and is no ref to Mario. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Mario is not the only Italian in the world. He's not even the only Italian stereotype. Have you forgotten [[Wikipedia:List_of_recurring_characters_from_The_Simpsons#Luigi_Risotto|Luigi]]? The one on the Simpsons, not Mario's brother! --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 03:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::::My opinion: I think a reference to Mario. My username may play a part in this, though. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::I didn't think of Mario at all when I first watched this, and my initial reaction to the idea was that it is only a play on the stereotype. But I did a few [http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=%22it%27sa+me%22&btnG=Google+Search google] [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22it%27s-a-me%22&btnG=Search searches] and an overwhelming majority of the results pertain to Mario, often the N64 incarnation of the game. I'm still hesitant, but now I'm not as sure.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 16:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

The reason I thought of Mario was because of the "Itsa me ***" format. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 04:10, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Speaking as an IP address, I probably don't have much clout, but I'd definitely say Mario reference. Stereotypical italians don't say "Itsa Me!" Only Mario does. [[User:129.64.141.43|129.64.141.43]] 16:06, 25 April 2007 (UTC) (oh, and this image code thing is disgusting, I normally can get these things no problem, but this is just like paint splatters)

:(129.64.141.43, I replied [[User talk:129.64.141.43|here]]) This one's a tough call, but I'm leaning toward it being a reference to Mario here. The discussion is so evenly split, I think that [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] would be helpful here — I'll get one started. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

::Okay, [[#Thank you, chef! But our reference is in another castle.|here it is]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I also thought of Mario right away, but that doesn't mean that that's what TBC were thinking of when they wrote the cartoon. --[[User:Lux Acerbus|Lux Acerbus]] 01:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== Another Reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman ==

The curlers on Coach Z's head and the rolling pin he's holding seems to be another reference to Coach Z thinking he's a woman, the other being when he said he was a mom in an easter egg at the end of Sbemail #129 Garage Sale.
:I think it's unwise to assume that Coach is conscientiously pretending to be a woman. Can't TBC just stick him in the cartoon to make a final punchline with no strings attached? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Right now the page suggests that Coach Z is a "mom" in this cartoon. He is clearly displaying characteristics of a woman (certain attitude, curlers, rolling pin), but there is no indication that he is acting like a "mom" (a particular kind of woman). [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 17:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I think he's acting like a wife. I mean, that's just such a classic image in television and movies. I don't know if he's doing it on purpose or if he just has a complex, though. Personally, I was thinking OTP. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]
::::I think he's being portrayed as a mother. Mabye he's actually a girl. We have no way of knowing if he is or not. He may actually be Bubs' mother. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 19:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Oh my. That would be quite the interesting development...--[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 22:04, 24 Apr 2007 (UTC)
::::Believe it or not, there are some men who wear curlers (I'm involved in the dance world :P). Though I agree it's more than likely a joke that he's playing a mom. Nothin' serious. Coach Z has always been weird. [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:29, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::We have, after all, established that he has more than two problems. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::I agree that Coach Z is acting like a wife, but it's not implying that he and Bubz are gay. I think it was more of a joke to get the viewers to really crack up. ~[[User:HideAndSeek|HideAndSeek]]
:::::::HideAndSeek hit the nail on the head. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:34, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
[[Image:Lockhorn Comic.PNG|thumb|Another rolling pin-wielding housewife]]
:Just as a note, this isn't the first time that a rolling pin has been used as a prop for a stereotypical housewife (see right). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:32, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

== Going down with the ship ==

Is the fact that Homestar and Strong Bad are singing the national anthem as their 'ship' goes down a reference to anything? It seems familiar to me, but I don't know where from... {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:I thought of [[Wikipedia:RMS Titanic|Titanic]] when I first saw it. The orchestra on the ship continued playing as the ship was sinking. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 11:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::I thought of that Looney Toons with Nero and Yosemite Sam as a Roman centurion and the pillar slowly falling while Nero plays Taps on a violin. Maybe something like that inspired them. [[User:Elvis|Uhuh huh. Thankyaveramuch.]] 12:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I think Elvis got it. This "going down with the ship" thing seems very cartoony. Looney Toony. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Okay bear with me a second. I've never actually seen the Hunt for Red October, so I'm getting this from my mom. In order to hijack the Red October and go to America, they took it out on the maiden voyage. The part of the crew that was in on the plot arranged a fake nuclear explosion and forced the rest of the crew off the sub. That part of the crew was standing on an American ship when the fake explosion occurred, and they sang the Russian national anthem while the Red October "sank". I think that's the reference the Brothers Chaps were going for. -[[User:Wrath|Wrath]]
::Could be that too. You never know for sure what they are thinking. I say we shouldn't try to pinpoint this as a solid reference to anything in particular. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Except they don't sing the anthem as the ship goes down. The Russians stand on the deck of the rescuing American ship, silent and mournfully removing their caps, staring at the sea. They sing it much earlier in the film, when they first engage the [[Wikipedia:Magnetohydrodynamic drive|caterpillar drive]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::::It's actually another sub that explodes. The Russian Anthem does play at the end of the movie IIRC. It's close, but I wouldn't call it a reference.{{User:NFITC1/sig}} 13:56, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::They didn't know it was another sub, of course. At the end, it's not the Russian anthem, but a reprise of the main theme of the movie. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:I fail to see how this is cartoony. It's a common motif, not a reference to anything in particular.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:It could be a reference to most cartoons, which sing/plays [[Wikipedia:Taps|Taps]] as their ship sinks. - {{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
Mind, I don't think it should be in the article, but for the record, I thought the same thing. "Hm, Red October reference, singing a national anthem..." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Who put the whole Titanic thing in there? I see no similarity. I believe it's already mentioned in the article that sailors often sing their national anthem as they go down with their ship, the Titanic wasn't a military vessel, there are no panicking passengers for Homestar and Strong Bad to soothe with their music (as the musicians on the Titanic were trying to do by continuing to play), and neither of them is using an instrument, nor were the musicians on the Titanic singing. Barely any similarity. I think this needs to be removed. --[[User:Lux Acerbus|Lux Acerbus]] 04:47, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:Just for the record, I agree (and I see that it's now been {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Date_Nite&curid=34045&diff=450885&oldid=450878 removed}}). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:53, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

== Rockets ==

In the inside references section it mentions the part in SBIIJC where the bang was all that was needed. Wouldn't the fathoom be necessary in this case, considering without it Homestar and Strong Bad would just blow up? [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 12:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Yea, I noticed the same thing. From what I can tell, they want the fathoom so that they fire towards Marzipan and The Cheat. I'm changing it. [[User:The makuta|The makuta]] 13:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

== Fundraising weeks ==

How many local NPR stations are having their drives this week? I know it is in Jacksonville, FL.
:Why are you asking this? What relativity does it have to Homestar Runner? Why didn't you sign your post? --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 20:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Because the Easter egg is about public radio fundraising drives, during the same time that many NPR stations are having fundraising drives. That's why. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:24, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I didn't read the easter egg. It just seemed really out of the blue. --{{User:Jangles5150/sig}} 21:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::::I'd say the fact doesn't belong. There is no official schedule that I'm aware of for fund raising on public radio, so each week could be a fundraising week for some station. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Don't read it, watch it! {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:07, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::Huh? What am I not supposed to read and supposed to watch? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:49, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::::That was a reply to Jangles' "I didn't read the easter egg."{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== FUN Facts. FUN ==
How is this piece of trivia a Fun fact? "Marzipan strokes her right eye with mascara 18 times." I'm pretty sure it isn't. [[User:63.229.175.33|63.229.175.33]] 14:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Good point. I've deleted it- maybe whoever put it there would mind explaining why it's of interest? {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 15:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::oh, you know, just in case someone wanted to be able to say that they apply makeup just like marzipan does or something --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]]

== Squared Circle ==
The Squared Circle is a term used in Professional Wrestling, because unlike the actual sport, where they wrestle within a circle, the entertainment version takes place in a square ring, hence, square instead of circle.

or maybe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaring_the_circle ?

== Differnet ==
Is it just me, or did this toon seem... I dunno... different than the older ones somehow? Did TBC use a different engine to make it or something?--[[User:68.53.87.6|68.53.87.6]]
:Looks like Flash to me. Maybe they upgraded the program or something. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]
:Maybe you're not used to the style used (as in it's night, romance, fancy resteraunts, etc.).-{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
Yer probably right Zerlock. After all, most toons are in the day.--[[User:68.53.87.6|68.53.87.6]]

== Marzipan's house ==

I'm pretty sure Homestar and Marzipan live together now. [[User:130.91.36.229|130.91.36.229]] 17:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:DVD Commentary on [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]:
:<blockquote>'''MATT:''' Dude, I don't want to hint at any cohabitation here, okay?</blockquote>
:--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Although they probably don't, alot of things hint at it, such as the "stay home running in place" (Homestar was jogging at Marzy's house) and the "Marzipan, I'm home!" from [[your funeral]]. But, of couse, the above quote dispells all. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::So, [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] was what, three years ago? They sure do seem to live together now, though. [[User:76.99.53.18|76.99.53.18]] 22:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC) (Same guy, different IP address.)
::::That commentary was recorded last summer. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
FYI: Homestar has his own house. Weren't you looking hard enough? Jeez! - '''Unknown'''

== Strong Bad, Nice? ==

Is it just me, or is strong bad being a friend towards homestar? isn't that out of character?
:Strong Bad can be civil when he wants. Besides, they had a common goal. I admit, it was a little 'Bwuh?', though. [[User:Wrath|Wrath]]
::The common goal between Homestar and Strong Bad is what made this toon stand out. And quite nicely too. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I've seen this before in cartoons. [[Wikipedia:The Fairly Oddparents|Fairly Oddparents]], for one. Timmy and Remy were both mad at Cupid in one episode, so they truced (even though they are enemies) to "kill" him (or at least seriously injure him, that gorrilla looked an''gry'') --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Maybe to make it so you don't have to have watched that episode to know what it's about, I'll reference [[Wikipedia:The Jimmy Timmy Power Hour 2: When Nerds Collide|this episode]], in which Jimmy and Timmy team up to make it so the anti-faires (and later Professor Calamitous) don't take over the world. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

== A little gay...==

Don't be mad at me or anything, but dosen't it seem the SB and TC are...(ugh). I mean, Homestar was mad at Marzi because she is going out with another man and she is his girlfriend, but SB was mad at TC for the same reason, making TC his...Boyfriend?!? -A little confused, {{User:HeyMama/sig}} 04:32 pm, Tuesday, April 24th.
:Strong Bad 1. Hates Marzipan and B. Is TC's best friend. Of course he's angry. It's Coach Z we should be worried about though :P {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:37, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Well, personally, I don't know why that would be worrying. On the other hand, this is really a discussion for the forum.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

No. Strong Bad hates Marzipan. The gay relationship we should worry about is Strong Mad and The Cheat.{{unsigned|Tgcdse|15:50, 25 April 2007}}
::What Loafing said.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 22:53, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::This thread is veering out of talk page appropriateness but let me state that in no way would I buy for a second that TBC are ever going to present their characters in any relationship other than goofy, dysfunctional ones. Not that we need to "worry" about a gay relationship in the first place, but it's as close to a certainty as anything is in this world that TBC are not intending their characters to be gay. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:it might be worrisome that TBC might be introducing gay themes to HR.com. Isn't that the entire point of HeyMama's post? I might be able to ignore your politically correct notions that homosexuality is normal if you didn't feel the need to lecture people about it and then complain that the discussion is inappropriate. If you truly thought it was inappropriate you wouldn't engage in it yourselves, but merely say "this is inappropriate." But that urge to add your viewpoint on homosexuality to the thread is just too strong to pass up, isn't it? My guess is that TBC leave gay themes out of HR.com because it ''isn't'' normal and it offends a lot of people. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 07:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::This is inappropriate. You have now ''both'' given in to the urge to state your personal viewpoints. This thread is not material to the content of the article, so, per our talk page policy, please stop using it for discussion. You or anyone else is certainly welcome to continue this subject, so long as it's not here. As it has been repeatedly suggested, our forum is one such venue where you can go to talk about it if you so desire. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's voice ==

Is it just me, or does Strong Sad's voice sound suddenly different? Deeper or something. [[User:Ekul|Ekul]] 21:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
*Yes, Strong Sad's voice and character have been evolving a bit lately. Just this year, he's already been physicially violent toward Strong Bad (Rough Copy) and smiled willingly (Looking Old) before that. Nothing particularly unusual about it, though, as this sort of evolution happens with all of the characters from time to time. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 08:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

== Title Card ==
Is this the only toon, other than [[Summer Short Shorts]], that has a title card in it?--[[User:SDSpivey|SDSpivey]] 21:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:Ummm...what do you mean by Title Card?? --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 21:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::A [[Wikipedia:Title card|title card]] is a separate image of the show's title. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:I think [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] had a title card. Some of the older ones (like [[A Jorb well done]] and [[Powered by The Cheat]] cartoons) -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
::Speaking of title cards, should someone add that at the end of the title sequence, the 'e' falls against the title frame?[[User:Sir Vimes|Sir Vimes]] 23:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Every Big Toon, even from 2005-now, has a title card. (although for [[Strongest Man in the World]] they simply reused the cover of [[The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest]], which the toon is based on) Also, every major Halloween toon, the [[Puppet Stuff]], and every [[Decemberween]] special except the email [[what i want]] have title cards. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Isn't the tilted 'e' a reference to a sign for a famous club or bar or restaurant or something (or maybe it was a painting)? I swear I've seen something similar to it before. Does anyone know what I'm taking about? [[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 05:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Dell? Enron? Sorry my mind reading abilities are on the fritz.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 06:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::No, it wasn't like a company (I don't think). I think the format of the sign was similar, two words on top of one another, the last one or two letters being the same in both words, so they used a large letter for both. I can picture it, but I can't name it for the life of me. I dunno, maybe divine inspiration will hit me at some point to remember it.[[User:Nynexman4464|Nynexman4464]] 20:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== Strong Bad Old-timey Strong Bad Reference ==

Is it me or is that italian mustache SB was wearing look kinda like Old-Timey SB's mustache? {{User:Austio888888/sig}} 23:53, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:A lot of mustaches have appeared in Homestar Runner. See [[Mustaches]]. Also, Old-Timey SB's 'stache is a lot longer, methinks. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

:I thought the same thing - I wondered if it's worth mentioning that SB resembles his Old-Timey counterpart here. --{{User:NoMayonnaise/sig}} 15:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

== Fireworks mirror ==

I think we should do a mirror where the fireworks goof appears (when they're still attached to the ship when they sink) like the "floating lime" mirror in [[Let us give TANKS!]]. I have the flash file for that version, so I think that would help. How would I upload it? --{{User:Darkangel/sig}} 03:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:You wouldn't. Only images and audio can be uploaded. Tom runs the mirror as far as I know, so if he doesn't already have it, you'd have to get it to him. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:17, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::Perhaps you could take a screen shot of the fireworks appearing on the sub? Just a suggestion --[[User:Murgatroid|Murgatroid]] 05:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Email it to the address at the bottom of [[User:Tom#Contact me|Tom]]'s user page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:20, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

== ... that fake mustache he always wears ... ==

I acknowledge that the mustache appearance is a good inside reference, but isn't this more directly an inside reference to Fabrosi / Homestar's fake mustaches from Lady-ing given the fact that the Cheat's mustache is a fake? [[User:71.96.169.82|71.96.169.82]]
:Since when did Homestar have a fake mustache in lady...ing? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:41, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::Since the Easter egg. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:45, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Oh. Now see, I've never watched that Easter Egg. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::::For shame, Martyo, for shame. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

== Four, then? ==

Who is Marzipan referring to when remarks that Homestar has had to fight off four foxes' mothers to stay loyal to her? The first thing that popped in my head was TGS, but that doesn't really make sense. Could it be the failed female characters they're referring to? Champeen and them? [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:Oh, nevahmind, it's prolly just that's as high as he can count. LOL [[User:Coveredinharmony|CoveredinSuudzu]] 15:32, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::('''edit conflict''')She's not referring to anyone in particular. Homestar says "more than I can count," so she's making fun of him by saying he can't even count to 4. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 15:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

== Character Development ==

Woah. This is the first time I've seen real character development, done by characters, with actual development, since, like...ever. Does anyone else notice that? And feel unnverved? [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 15:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:This is probably the most salient example, but I think it would be difficult to hold that it is the first time. There are snippets of character development here and there, if we allow that the entire world of www.homestarrunner.com is one holistic narrative. For example, we know that the relationship between Strong Sad and Strong Bad wasn't always as it is now ([[The Secrets That I Keep]]). We also see a desperate attempt by the KOT to become a cool character (seeking help from Marzipan on her answering machine and creating KOTVOQPCS, which by it's name implies that the KOT is "popular"). Numerous characters have had epiphanies of self-awareness (SS "I'm a waste of space", CZ "I've hit rack bartom!"). And throughout the entire narrative we see fluctuating relational dynamics between all of the characters; their attitudes and behavior towards one another does not remain static (at times SB hates HR, and at other times they are found playing Cheat Commandos or drinking 'old ones together). Because HR.com is episodic in nature it is difficult to see much character development in any given instance, but as a broader story arc it should be easier to see development. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:32, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::Don't forget Strong Sad's development in Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon. That was a big one. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

== Jail reference? ==
Doesn't the use of fireworks used as TNT count as a reference to the [[Strong Bad is in Jail]] 'toon? -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}
:Yep. Already mentioned. Same brand of rockets and everything. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:: To be technical, they were used as rockets here, not TNT. [[User:PureQuestion|PureQuestion]] 22:58, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

== BIAS ==

I think the current interpretation of the phrase "normal bias" found on the tape in the easter egg might be the wrong one.
Public radio is commonly perceived as having a left leaning ''political bias''. The addition of the word "normal" might refer to the perception that this political bias is normal for public radio.
Further, "Normal bias" is in the label location, where the person who records something onto the tape indicates what the recording is or is about (such as "David Bowie" or "2007 mix tape"). If "normal bias" was actually referring to the technical design of the tape we might expect to find it stamped on the tape in a different location and in a different manner. We don't find other technical aspects of a tape or CD-R (such as "120 minutes" or "700 Mb") in the label area of the item. Any thoughts? [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 01:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

:I'm a little confused... just answering the last question you asked there, it's a cartoon, and TBC don't have time to draw in every little detail, especially on a tape or CD. Or Laserdisc. The "Normal Bias" label is there for satirical humor. I mean, what's funnier, "Normal Bias" or "TapeMakers 90 minutes"? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 01:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

::I just looked at what is posted about "normal bias" and I can see why you are confused. Let me clarify my previous post. If you follow the link on the word "bias" it will take you to a wikipedia article about tape bias, a technical development in sound reproduction for cassette tapes. By linking to this article, it is suggested that the use of the term "normal bias" in the cartoon refers to Tape Bias. My previous post was meant to argue that Tape Bias is the wrong way to interpret "normal bias" and that there is a better, more likely interpretation. My error was in thinking that the current interpretation is more obvious than it really is, thus I am at fault for your confusion. With this clarification in mind, I hope that my previous post is more clear to you. I propose that what is currently posted about "normal bias" be removed from the Trivia section and in it's place we use my interpretation to explain "normal bias" in the Real World References section. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

:::I think it's referring to tape bias — see [[geddup noise]] and [[Sketchbook 2006#SK-2006-08-31]] for other places that this comes up in the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

::::Good point. I am still puzzled why tech specs would be found in the user label portion of the tape, but the fact that the geddup noise radio station is a ribald morning show and ''not'' public radio demands the conclusion you have reached. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 02:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think they simply didn't put as much thought as you into what they put on the tape to make it look like a tape. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:56, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Also, bias is something that is applied to the tape when it is recorded, it's not inherent to the specific tape itself (though, different bias is better for different kinds of tape). When I used to work with tapes extensively I would always note on the label what bias I used to record the tape (in fact, there was typically a checkbox devoted to it on the user label).{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Incidentally, I'm the one who originally added the link to [[Wikipedia:Tape bias|tape bias]], which I put there for readers who might not know there was a double meaning to the word. But I've always thought that the pun was intended. That is, I think they used the technical term as a play on the political sense of the words. I figured linking to anything besides tape bias would be unnecessarily explaining the joke. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::I can't say I agree; Homestar Runner stuff rarely if ever ventures into sociopolitical commentary. It goes against the idea of the body of work. Also, considering there was nothing political in the broadcast, it seems like a severe stretch. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 23:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== Marzipan eats Marshmallows?! ==

A primary ingredient in Marshmallows is gelatin, which made from boiled animal bones. I don't think Marzipan would like this very much (since she is a vegetarian). Thoughts? I modified the article to show this, but it was reverted and claimed to be "nit-picking." Hardly. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 02:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:Is Marzipan a vegetarian? Can you cite where it's disclosed? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::Well, it's mentioned without citation a couple times on this wiki... but the only thing close to an official statement that I see comes from [[All_Things_Considered_Interview_-_8_May_2005|a 2005 interview on NPR]], in which the interviewer refers to Marzipan as "Homestar's Vegetarian girlfriend" and his statement is not refuted by TBC.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

::It's pretty safe to assume that Marzipan is a vegetarian or vegan of some kind. Her mascara, for instance. The tofu BBQ, for another. [[Homestar Jr.]], for a third. You may not have a verbal confession from her, but all signs point to that assumption. I would suggest that based on the evidence we have it is harder to prove that she ''isn't'' a vegetarian than that she ''is''. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 03:28, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

:::However - Vegan Mascara might be a brand name. I like tofu almost as much as I like a steak. And reporters do get facts wrong sometimes, even NPR. I think it's just speculation to decide she's a vegan/strict vegetarian/weak vegetarian without explicit establishment. If the fact is included, it needs to be worded so as not to say she "is" a vegetarian, but that she might be; and also without weaseling the fact to the point of it no longer being notable. A challenge. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::All you need to prove that she isn't a vegetarian is an instance where she clearly violates general vegetarian protocol (marshmallows, we should agree, is a gray area). In the logic tradition and in real world common sense 'no instance of violating vegetarian protocol' + 'numerous instances of demonstrating vegetarian behavior' = 'the fair assumption that Marzipan is a vegetarian.' Put simply, I think your standard of proof is unnecessarily high. My standard is the one practiced in the disciplines of Philosophy, History, English, and Behavioral Psychology, to name a few, and ought to be sufficient for a silly cartoon web site. Your challenge does not need to be answered because a reasonable and sufficient argument has already been offered (not "just speculation"), not only by myself, but by Bryanc as well. Again, a contrary example is all you need to prove our contention false. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 04:08, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::She could just be stupid, ignorant, or misinformed. This could also be a mistake by The Brothers Chaps. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::Speaking of stupid, ignorant, or misinformed, how about those vegetarians? {snicker}. Seriously though, I would have to agree in the end that it probably is just a mistake (and an understandable and forgivable one at that) by TBC; this would seem the most likely explanation for the perceived inconsistency. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 07:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

:::::Lynx, I don't need to prove she's not anything. The natural presumption is that people are like most other people unless there is evidence to the contrary. I maintain that calling her a vegetarian is speculative unless there is firm evidence. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::I think what Lynx is trying to argue is that there is quite a lot of evidence. Each piece of evidence alone may be interpreted as circumstantial, but the summation of it all lends great credence to the probability that Marzipan is indeed a vegetarian. You are absolutely correct that there is no definitive proof. She sure eats like one though.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

::::::Qermaq, I didn't say you needed to prove anything- you have it backwards. I said that if you want to end all doubt and vindicate your position there is a simple way. I didn't say "you need to ''prove''", I said "what you ''need'' to prove." There's a real difference there. I won't continue to rehash this topic with you, but I do want to say for the sake of others reading this that there ''is'' evidence that she is a vegetarian, the assumption is a reasonable one, not a speculative one, according to classical epistemology. Instead of yielding to better reasoning, my friend Qermaq seems to be ignoring the firm evidence provided and misinterpreting what I have said. I would that he follow my example from above (the BIAS discussion) and simply admit when he is beat. I will say no more. [[User:Lynx|Lynx]] 06:23, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

::::On the [[Chinese Food Toons Menu]] TBC imply ''very'' strongly that Marzipan is a vegetarian in the subtext to [[The Reddest Radish]]. Also, if this is being questioned than it follows that [[The Luau]], [[Marzipan]], and [[Old-Timey Marzipan]] all should be re-worded also.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

::::Incidentally, the word vegan was [http://www.vegansociety.com/html/business/trademark/opportunities/standards.php coined] by The Vegan Society in the UK which still retains related trademarks. A mascara company would not likely be granted permission to use the word as a brand name, even if the product was vegan.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::You're confusing reality with the toon. I am not suggesting that "vegan" is indeed a brand name or even eligible to be one. I'm saying that in the H*R universe it could be intended as such. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::I meant that as a sort of trivial interjection, but even so, why would they choose that particular brand name?{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

:Gelatin is sort of a gray area for some vegetarians, so are dairy products and eggs. Certainly there are vegetarians who will not eat them, vegans definitely won't, but I do know several vegetarians who do eat such things. I'm actually not against mentioning this fact in the article really, just wanted to mention that.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 03:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::No, it isn't. Just like meat, gelatin comes from the dead body of an animal. Dairy products and eggs are clearly gray areas, but gelatin is *not*. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::Further, this is ''Chilean Sea'' Marshmallow. Maybe it's a naturally-occurring plant life form, like the sea cucumber? Or maybe it's a soy-based marshmallow substitute? (What we really need is an Explanation about sea bass...) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]]
:::It ''is'' possible to make vegetarian/vegan marshmallows without using gelatin. Given that Marzipan's exact status as a non-meat-eater is fuzzy, I think it would be a stretch to draw any kind of conclusion from the fact that she eats a marshmallow (which hardly count as food anyway). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

: 1 - The [[Marzipan]] article clearly states that she is a vegetarian.
: 2 - Although the specific type of vegetarianism that Marzipan follows is not known, eating gelatin is against *all* of them. The [[Wikipedia:Vegetarian|wikipedia article]] has a good discussion of the various types. You will note that all of them decry the eating of meat (remains of dead animals.)
: Thus, this is pretty clearly a goof to me. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 05:17, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::re: 1 - Yes it does, but when it comes to citations we can't cite ourselves.
::re: 2 - I can't knowledgeably comment on this, suffice to say that I know more than one self-proclaimed vegetarians who will eat gelatin. Perhaps that makes them not-really-vegetarians.
::Dot com has already pointed out that there are readily available recipes to make marshmallow's that are both vegetarian and vegan.{{User:Bryanc/sig}} 05:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Correct. A "vegetarian" who eats gelatin is no more a true vegetarian than one who eats chicken or beef. I do concede that there are vegetarian marshmallow recipes, though. [[User:70.58.71.12|70.58.71.12]] 14:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:::I strongly agree with Bryanc in all three points. As a non-gelatin-eating vegetarian, I say this is not a goof. Also, if anybody feels any further need to discuss whether Marzipan is a veg(etari)an or not, then this talk page is ''not'' the place to do it. Please do this at [[Talk:Marzipan#Vegetarian or vegan?]]. Thanks.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== Pledge? ==

Would it be relevant to include an explanation of what a 'pledge' is in the Explanations section? There must be at least some people who would benefit from the knowledge (myself included).--[[User:Tally Solleni|Tally Solleni]] 16:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:Sure — I'll try to add a little bit, and feel free to edit it if you can improve it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== How Was Your Coincidence? ==

It's probably not a direct reference, but I can't help but notice one of Marzipan's lines ("My almond-encrusted Chilean sea marshmallow was just delicious. How was your hot dog?") is strikingly similar to Veronica Lodge's line from the cover of Archie #547, which I read in the Editor's Notebook. ("My lobster thermador was superb! How was your hot dog?") [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 06:30, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:I'd say that's reference material. I felt like Marzipan's "how was your hot dog?" was something that I'd heard/seen before, but I'm not at all familar with Archie. Maybe the gag has been used in other works? (A quick web search doesn't turn up anything in particular; not even the Archie quote.) --[[User:Rriegs|Rriegs]] 10:29, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
::I just thought it was a coincidence because I didn't catch any other references to Archie. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:41, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

== "Bod" reference ==

Homestar's line "That you--gulp--'want his bod'?" is pretty close to the line dropped by Strong Bad in [[lady...ing]], "Oh, Marzipan. Do you want a-my bod!" Anyone think it's worth a mention in the article? --[[User:Rriegs|Rriegs]] 10:15, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

:I think it is. [[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 17:56, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

== Reminiscent? ==

*Homestar and Strong Bad singing as their ship sinks is reminiscent of how the orchestra on the RMS Titanic continued to play while she sank.

Didn't a fun fact just get destroyed recently due to that word? Personally, I don't see any similarity at all between the two, but somehow I didn't feel right just outright removing it... anyone? -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

== Bought a bod? ==

I keep hearing "gulp - bought his bod?" Has Marzipan paying TC to do this? [[User:The Magic Pixel|The Magic Pixel]] 15:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
:I would suggest that you get a nice set of headphones, go into a quiet room, and listen to it again. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:13, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

== Wharf? ==

When the USS Flirtini sinks, the water becomes wide and expansive, could this be the wharfs that have been alluded to? Or is it just for pseudo-dramatic effect? [[User:Strong Sader|Strong Sader]] 16:44, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
:It could be either; the facts is, we don't really know. TBC tend not to make connections like these. They often comment on how much they ''don't'' plan things out on their website and how inconsistent it is. On the other hand, you never know what they think while they make the toon. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:21, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
:: I always figured that since they were launched backwards, the river was connected to a lake, which they ended up in.

== Capers? ==

Can someone explain "capers" to me? What does he mean by that? At first I thought he was meaning "Never seeing each other again, with kippers." as in like, a meal with fish as a side dish. But capers? Can I get an explanation please? -[[User:Abelhawk|Abelhawk]] 13:55, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

:[[wikipedia:capers#Culinary_Uses]] [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 13:57, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== Thank you, chef! But our reference is in another castle. ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's greeting, "it's-a me! The chef-a!" is a play on [[Wikipedia:Mario|Mario]]'s famous line, "It's a-me, Mario!".}}
{{stuffverdict|16:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC)|22:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)|declined|29|21. A proposed revision was also declined, 31-2|Date Nite}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}

=== I can do it. I can do it sixteen times. ===
{{stufffact|Marzipan strokes her right eyelashes with mascara 16 times.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:26, 24 April 2007 (UTC)|14:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC)|declined|38|17|Date Nite}}

== Strong Bad's Location ==

I've confirmed this by looking at the flash file in frames, so don't change it (It's in the transcript): Strong bad is already in Marzipan's house when he says "head."

== Public Rage-o ==

Is it just a coincidence that "Public Rage-o" sounds a lot like "Public Radio"? You have to sound it out a bit but the resemblance is uncanny. --[[User:Echeese|Echeese]] 19:44, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

== Curse? ==

I know Missy Palmer/Marzipan have only said "crap" once, but I distinctly keep hearing, "Homestar, if you're trying to say I look like a f***sy mama..." Anyone else? {{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 20:38, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

:Umm, no, not at all. Foxy Mama makes sense, especially in the context of "fox's mother". [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 20:40, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh. You're right. I listened again, and it's just her inflection. My bad! {{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 00:15, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

== Count Fiveguardo ==

I know it's just an insult, but how notable is it that Homestar counts past Marzipan's claim of four in [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
:He's reading from a cue card there.

== Or is it THE Marzipan now? ==

I think that the fact Homestar comments that Marzipan's name might have a 'the' in front of it is referencing the magority of characters that have 'the' as a title eg. the king of town, the cheat, the homestar runner.
:Yes, it's definitely a reference to the [[integral article]]. In fact, this is already mentioned in inside references. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:44, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
::Noes, I think it's that Homestar is hinting that The Cheat and Marzipan are steady, and wives will often adopt their husband's last names, so it makes sense... a little bit. -Werghy (Image codes stink)

=It'sa me!=

Any one else think that's from Mario 64? [[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 17:53, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
:See [[#Mario|above]] {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 17:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

== Fabrosi's fake mustache ==

I made the following addition to the Inside References section, which was promptly deleted. I think this is bogus, so someone back me up here.

**The Cheat's fake mustache may be a reference to [[lady...ing]], in which Fabrosi is said to use a fake mustache when lady-ing.

== lack of visible arms reference ==

when The Cheat holds out his arm for Marzipan to hook her arm around, isn't that a reference to the lack of visible arms? Its also mentioned in the commentary as well. --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 06:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Hremail 2000

2009-02-06T03:21:19Z

Zonis: /* Dream */

==Dipped in ink==
Could the claim in the Easter egg that Shadow Homestar was "dipped in a vat of ink" be a reference to the ending montage of [[dangeresque 3]], where the silhouette of [[Killingyouguy]] was shown to be made by painting Strong Mad in black? It's what came first to my mind, anyway... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:22, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:Mine too.-{{User:Record307/sig}} 14:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:: Oh most definitely. Should there be a page for shadow Homestar, or at least a part of the chacter variation page for hime? He seems like a pretty important duplicate.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 21:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::[[Shadow Homestar Runner]]. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 22:58, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I don't really think the page is neccesary (Hope I spelled that right). It should be under Homestar's variations because that is practically him.---{{User:Record307/sig}} 02:17, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Shadow Homestar ==
Isn't this a reference to "Shadow Link" in the Legend of Zelda games? We all know TBC are big fans, so possibilities?
--[[User:Lustmyeyes|lustmyeyes <3]] 10:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think lots of video game characters have "shadow" or "dark" versions of themselves, it's quite common, from what I can tell. --[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 16:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::I wish, but the easter egg seems to be referencing the [[Street Fighter]] series. {{User:That_game_dude386/sig}} 16:20, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Mortal Kombat as well. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Since the whole scene is a parody of Mortal Kombat, I kinda think the Noob Saibot line holds some water. Another "ambiguous reference" about the ubiquitousness of "shadow" characters may also be appropriate. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.21|132.183.151.21]] 01:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::For what it's worth, the original "Prince of Persia" was almost certainly the first game to have such a "shadow" opponent... predates Mortal Kombat by 3 years. --[[User:dmz|dmz]] 08:30, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::I think we're best off with the ambiguous reference, like we already have on the page, though i wouldn't mind a nod to noob in the same line, since it IS mortal kombat after all. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Frankly, I'm against any reference at all to Noob Saibot - he wasn't all-black, just gray, and he didn't copy the moves of any character in particular. In his initial appearance, there were MULTIPLE characters that looked like him aside from the color scheme. If it's got anything at all to do with Mortal Kombat, it's almost certainly the mirror matches that were in the original game. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:04, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Multiples again? ==
It should probably be noted that this is another instance of [[duplicate characters]], both with the 3rd Homestar leg (which is obviously not part of homestar when he's shown on the basketball court) and possibly also because of the Shadow Homestar. [[Special:Contributions/72.70.158.239|72.70.158.239]] 13:56, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:'''Agree'''. Yeah we should probably note the third leg.-{{User:Record307/sig}} 14:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::Done.-{{User:Record307/sig}} 19:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Except the three leg thing has really nothing to do with "shadow Homestar"... --[[Special:Contributions/71.58.29.180|71.58.29.180]] 23:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::::No one said it did... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==Homestar's Arms==
I'm no master at editing wikis, so I think I'll just mention it here. There should probably be something about how Homestar holds a big sock, then a big shoe, then a bigger sock, and then a bigger shoe, more than someone could hold with two hands (as he lifts them up seperately, and they don't move afterwards).
:There is a place to do that. I'll try to find it for consistancy. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 17:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::Try going [[invisible arms|here]]. I also added a remark on the article. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 17:51, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Okay, does anyone else think the Chaps are doing this on purpose now? I notice the whole "doing-things-that-would-require-more-than-two-arms" controversy has seemed to heighten somewhat on this wiki lately, so are they just adding fuel to the fire? Do they ''enjoy'' making those who try to find at least some level of vague sense-make in the cartoon squirm uncomfortably in their seats? (Not that I'm one of those people, I'm just sayin'. It's a weird co-weenky-dink.) [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I believe one of their commentaries mentioned the wiki, so they definitely know what goes on here. Probably amused their dumb little animal cartoon is causing so much silly bantering. My take is it's, 'relax, it's just a cartoon." And giant hands. Just because they're invisible doesn't mean they have to be normal sized!
:::::He holds them up individually, so unless he has REALLY big fingers..... -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:26, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Dream ==
When marzipan says that "the whole last season was just a dream", could this be a reference to the infamous ending of the Sopranos Tv series?
:This is the fourth suggestion so far as to what show it's referring to. I think that pretty much makes it something that can't be pinned to any one thing. The other three are Roseanne, Dallas, and Newhart, as seen when i removed them [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Hremail_2000&diff=627207&oldid=627205&rcid=586009 here]. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:44, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::Dallas did it first and is most famous for it. -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.21|132.183.151.21]] 21:20, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::The show Newhart is arguably the most famous as making the ''entire show'' was a dream in his earlier show. But I don't want to get into an argument about which is "more famous", because if one is mentioned, they all need to be. The best way is to make an ambiguous reference. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:33, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
There's a big controversy on how to include a remark about how "the entire last season was a dream." Why not just add a non-specific reference like; "Several prime-time shows have revealed in the season's last episode that the entire season had merely been a dream."? I'm not good at writing these things though, but i'm sure someone could make it sound very good and succinct. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:01, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:Why hasn't anyone else thought of this? Nice idea. -Nonuser mster24
::I'll take a shot at it. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:08, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Okay, it's up. Wasn't sure whether to put it in Explanations or Real-World References, but if I've erred someone can move it. I tried to word it as succinctly as I could, but of course if someone can reword it better, go for it. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:13, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Great summary, that's better than I could have put it. However, I believe that it belongs under Real-World references as it really isn't explaining anything rather than mention something said is referring to a real-life show(s). -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:29, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, general references to culture rather than references to something specific go in explanations. it's in the right place. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:35, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::I almost changed it, but realized the same thing trying to rephrase it. I like it where it is. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::There has only been one show where they had an entire season which was a dream. That was Dallas. This is a direct, complete reference to Dallas. -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]]
:::-as opposed to NEWHART which was only 8 seasons dreamed up. If I do my math right, NEWHART is 800% more direct than Dallas. My point is, there's more than one show which did that and we have the reference already in the article. We appreciate your input, but this has been discussed. Please see above. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 22:32, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, not necessarily. One could argue that, by the "math" of the transitive <strike>butt</strike> gimmick property, Dallas: 1 season = 100% direct reference by what Marzi said, whereas Newhart: 1 series/8 seasons = 0% direct reference by what Marzi said. And as much as love Bob Newhart, I really think Dallas is the most likely reference (this coming from someone who hasn't even seen Dallas, but is just familiar with certain famous attributes, this being one of them). Having said that, though, I don't think there's a strong enough case to put that specific one in the article, so I don't think there's any other way to do it, no matter how much I hate general, ambiguous references (I usually don't find 'em very useful). (Though I do maintain that Dallas did it first, in the 85-86 season (Newhart ended in 1990), and that they've referenced Dallas at least once in the past, with the [[Caleb Rentpayer]] thing.) -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.21|132.183.151.21]] 22:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::The Trope link, on the other hand, makes a general reference much more useful. Anonny satisfied! -[[Special:Contributions/132.183.151.21|132.183.151.21]] 23:27, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::First of all, it would be 800% AS direct, not 800% more direct. Secondly Newhart presumes the entire series was a dream (and entirely for comedic effect, not even pretending to be realistic). If marzipan had said the entire series was a dream, then it would make sense. Dallas is the only series to have had a "Dream Season" which is what Marzipan says -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]]
:::::The only point I was proving is that Dallas is not the only show that has done it (while Dallas may have been first). All I is saying is that it shouldn't be a specific reference. -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 21:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Since when is TV Tropes Wiki a reliable source for anything? -[[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]] 19:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Since TBC started making reference to TV tropes... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Show me where they did this. -[[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]] 00:46, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Well, there's two of them in this very toon, and tons of others all over the place. they spoof pop culture a lot. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:50, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Oh. I thought you meant they referenced the TV Tropes website itself, in which case a link would be appropriate. As it is I don't see why the links shouldn't be replaced with Wikipedia articles that explain the concepts. -[[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]]
::::::::::::Because tropes does a better job at documenting and describing them, and is more specific. that's why. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:06, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::True as that may be, that's not my point. Maybe I wasn't being clear enough. My point in my original edit was that I don't see how TV Tropes is a reliable source. I mean, Wikipedia's not perfect, but I'd take it over a site that openly says it has few standards and is mostly for fun any day. I mean, yeah, it's kinda entertaining sometimes, and I get the feeling some people are actually trying provide objective information about common plot devices and media conventions, after visiting that site for nearly two years I get the impression that a large chunk of the contributors are more concerned with informing everyone that Doctor Who/Avatar The Last Airbender/Discworld/some furry webcomic is awesome and every other piece of fiction ever written is crap. -[[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]] 02:16, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:Other shows have done it, but Dallas is arguably the most well-known, especially given the Brothers Chaps' ages. Not to mention, that website doesn't even mention it, just a bunch of anime references...I don't know if it's really what fits in here.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 13:10, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
::To elaborate, the Newhart ending was itself a parody of the tendency of 80s TV shows to turn to the "it was all a dream" copout to throw away story elements they didn't like, resurrect characters, move the show to Jupiter, etc. That ending is also widely regarded as one of the best moments in TV history. In contrast, there was a lot of aggravation that Dallas decided to just throw away an entire season's worth of story as just being a dream, which Marzipan's annoyance definitely alludes to. Frankly, I think the mathematically questionable attempts to say that it refers to this or that ought to give way to what folks older than 20 or so will recognize as a clear Dallas reference.--[[User:Big Dog|Big Dog]] 13:20, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Just how does TV Tropes do "a better job at documenting and describing [concepts]" than this very wiki? To me, that website is the very definition of ""[[unnatural|an organized forum for people to shout out their ideas all at the same time]]": it's a complete mess of potentially interesting information, which overwhelms the reader due to a complete lack of standards and formatting. You claim that we should make ANY specific references to any examples of "dream seasons" (what's wrong with mentioning just two or three extremely well-known examples?), yet then link to some website that attempts to list every single use of dreams in all the films, TV programmes, anime, manga and video games that it can think of? Do we really need to pass the buck this badly? Instead, we should all take a look at a similar problem that happened a while ago with [[bottom 10]]; the problem involved "songs that try to pass off la la's, na na's, and doot do's as legit lyrics". There are a million songs this statement could be referencing, so it was decided that we would only make three well-known references and leave it at that. A similar solution should be taken with this article; we add a sentence to the fact along the lines of "Notable example of 'dream seasons' include Dallas, Newhart and Roseanne," and an invisble comment asking people not to make any more references. It might be OK to keep the link to TV Tropes if enough people want to, but at least don't leave our explaination of the concept as it is. It just looks terribly generic and wishy-washy unless the link is followed. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 16:31, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:I'd forgotten about ''Roseanne''. ''Dallas'' is the only example I find where the writers wrote themselves into a corner and out of desperation wiped out the whole season. I would not support listing ''Newhart'', as that final episode wiped out the entire ''series'' and was played for laughs. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
It just occurred to me that I forgot to add an alternative to the Tropes link, so it looks like I'm complaining instead of trying to improve the article. Sorry about that. For the record, I think that a general explanation of the concept with one or two references to the most popular examples, like what somebody suggested above, would suffice. -[[User:Ingiald|Ingiald]]

Can we just add at the end of the reference a couple of examples? Just make it "Marzipan's remark that the entire last season was just a dream refers to a gimmick employed by several television series in which such a revelation is made, usually in the last episode of that season, in series such as ''Dallas'' or ''Roseanne''." I think it would make the reference better, while still leaving it open ended. --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 03:21, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

== Homestar's Shoes? ==

Think it should be noted somewheres that Homestar's feet/shoes act like (and are referred to as) shoes in this toon? As far as I know, there's been a dispute over whether Homestar wears shoes or not, and this, especially the puppet show, could possibly confirm that he does.-Nonuser mster24
:Or that he doesn't. Note the fact that in that one closeup, his supposed "shoes" have those gnarly wart-looking things and his leg region is shown to have hair, despite the fact that there's no clear boundary between his "shoes/feet" and his legs. Just another wrench in the works-of-clearing-up-ambiguity is my guess. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 21:08, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::Either way, we include references to his shoes on [[Homestar Runner's Pants]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

== Foot Pelts ==
Is this easter egg another instance of [[Strong Sad]]'s implied [[death]]? [[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 00:03, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:Implied amputation isn't implied death. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::It could go here though -> [[Severed Body Parts]] -02:00, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:Why not? In [[modeling]], Strong Sad informs Strong Bad that poachers have been after his feet.

== Cow Clips ==

The "Cow Clips" Homestar uses on his shoes are Binder Clips, also known as Bulldog Clips.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binder_clip --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 19:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:The transcript already calls them binder clips. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Swiss-ness ==

"swiss miss" is a brand of hot cocoa and other food-esque items. to be included in real-world references? --[[User:Neumannz|Zatchman (Neumannz)]] 20:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:And [[Wikipedia:Swiss Miss (disambiguation)|many other things]] as well. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

== Missle vs. Missal ==

When Homestar says "today's missle," I think he is actually saying "Today's Missal," a publication found at nearly every Catholic church. See: http://www.ocp.org/products/tm Also see the Wikipedia article on Missal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missal
Should this be included in explanations or maybe real-world references?
:It's a [[malapropism]] for "missive". "Missile" has the benefit of being one letter off. "Missal" does not. The pronunciation is the same. I say "missile" is fine. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think "missal". Mostly because both are written materials, a much more closely related semantic field than "missile" would be. (Although, one could make the argument that Homestar misread a teleprompter or queue card).

== Long Pants ==

Remember when Strong Bad asserted that Homestar "simply has blue soles glued to the bottom of his feet"? Should that be mentioned?

== Power forward ==

Why isn't [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_forward_(basketball) power forward] explained? [[Special:Contributions/24.165.150.118|24.165.150.118]] 23:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:Who knows? Feel free to add it if you'd like. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 23:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::I added the explanation, and I also explained what it means to "post up" and I clarified "in the paint" a bit, but I'm sure what I wrote could be worded better. By the way, this is my first time editing. [[User:Willstar|Willstar]] 05:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

== Art Stockton ==

I hear "Technical foul ''on'' Stockton", not "Art Stockton". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:31, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:I would agree that that makes SLIGHTLY more sense, however, the "T" is clearly audible. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:26, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
::it makes entirely more sense. In that "On Stockton" makes sense, and "Art Stockton" doesn't. Also, that "clearly audilbe T" isn't. I hear "on" every time.[[User:Nightsong81|Nightsong81]] 21:49, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Is it "Art"? I think so, but I'm not 100% sure. What I ''am'' 100% sure of is that it is ''not'' "On". And even if it was, who puts the stress on a preposition? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, and one more thing. "Art" makes ''exactly'' as much sense as "Stockton" in this context — it's short for "Arthur". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:27, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Definitely "Art Stockton" rather than "on".
::::After cramming my left ear up to my computer speaker and listening to it like 7 times, I deduced that it's "on Stockton." {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 03:09, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Showdown

2009-02-06T03:04:10Z

Zonis:

[[Image:Showdown.png|thumb|Feel the burn]]
"'''Showdown'''" is a training song to which several characters have worked out.

==Lyrics==
Guts, guts and might 
Liftin' weights and feelin' all right 
It's a showdown! 
Going downtown! 
You're gonna mess around 
Showdown! 
Put your nose down 
Showdown! 

==Limozeen Full Version==
Guts, guts and might 
Liftin' weights and feelin' all right! 
It's a showdown! 
Going downtown! 
You're gonna mess around 
Showdown! 
Put your nose down 
Showdown! 

Strength, strength and grease 
Heading down to the GNC! 
It's a showdown! 
Going downtown! 
You're gonna mess around 
Showdown! 
Put your nose down 
Showdown! 

It's Wet! 
Wearing a Speedo 
Living it up! 
It's a showdown! 
Going downtown! 
You're gonna mess around 
Showdown! 
Put your nose down 
Showdown! 

Guts, guts and might 
Liftin' weights and feelin' all right! 
It's a showdown! 
Going downtown! 
You're gonna mess around 
Showdown! 
Put your nose down 
Showdown! 

==Fun Facts==

===Real-World References===
*General Nutrition Centers or [[Wikipedia:General Nutrition Centers|GNC]] is a chain of stores that focus on selling weight loss, bodybuilding and nutritional supplements.

==Appearances==
*Email [[montage]]
*[[Strongest Man in the World]]
*[[Limozeen Live! - 27 Mar 2008]]
*[[Homestar Ruiner]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail117.html|Listen to the song's first appearance in "montage"]]
*[[HR:sbemail117.swf|View the Flash File for "montage"]]
*[[YouTube:GHeWGQneLN8|Listen to Limozeen's cover of the song from "Limozeen Live! - 27 Mar 2008"]]

[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Songs from SBCG4AP]]

Showdown

2009-02-06T03:02:40Z

Zonis: added Real World Reference - GNC

[[Image:Showdown.png|thumb|Feel the burn]]
"'''Showdown'''" is a training song to which several characters have worked out.

==Lyrics==
Guts, guts and might 
Liftin' weights and feelin' all right 
It's a showdown! 
Going downtown! 
You're gonna mess around 
Showdown! 
Put your nose down 
Showdown! 

==Limozeen Full Version==
Guts, guts and might 
Liftin' weights and feelin' all right! 
It's a showdown! 
Going downtown! 
You're gonna mess around 
Showdown! 
Put your nose down 
Showdown! 

Strength, strength and grease 
Heading down to the GNC! 
It's a showdown! 
Going downtown! 
You're gonna mess around 
Showdown! 
Put your nose down 
Showdown! 

It's Wet! 
Wearing a Speedo 
Living it up! 
It's a showdown! 
Going downtown! 
You're gonna mess around 
Showdown! 
Put your nose down 
Showdown! 

Guts, guts and might 
Liftin' weights and feelin' all right! 
It's a showdown! 
Going downtown! 
You're gonna mess around 
Showdown! 
Put your nose down 
Showdown! 

===Real-World References===
*General Nutrition Centers or [[Wikipedia:General Nutrition Centers|GNC]] is a chain of stores that focus on selling weight loss, bodybuilding and nutritional supplements.

==Appearances==
*Email [[montage]]
*[[Strongest Man in the World]]
*[[Limozeen Live! - 27 Mar 2008]]
*[[Homestar Ruiner]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail117.html|Listen to the song's first appearance in "montage"]]
*[[HR:sbemail117.swf|View the Flash File for "montage"]]
*[[YouTube:GHeWGQneLN8|Listen to Limozeen's cover of the song from "Limozeen Live! - 27 Mar 2008"]]

[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Songs from SBCG4AP]]

The Movie Theater

2009-02-04T04:00:56Z

Zonis:

[[Image:Silver_Screen_Stairers.png|thumb|right|300px|"Cinema has never Luked so Wilson!"]]

'''The Movie Theater''' is where movies are watched, sometimes by force. [[Pom Pom]] and [[Homestar Runner]] brought [[Coach Z]] here to watch a movie about the word "job" in the toon [[A Jorb Well Done]]. [[Tom Servo]] from ''[[Wikipedia:Mystery Science Theater 3000|Mystery Science Theater 3000]]'' is silhouetted in this scene.

This is a popular date destination, as seen in the email [[montage]], where [[Strong Bad]] and the [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]] enjoy a film together, and when Bubs and [[Lord Quackingstick|Lady Quackingstick]] watch a movie [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 15.2|together]].

[[Image:The movies.png|left|thumb|220px|"Good efening, Bontilda. Forty-twone will be on your lest."]]
The movie theater is featured prominently in [[the movies]]. Here, it is revealed that [[Senor Cardgage]] has a job as the ticket-taker. Strong Bad also describes the different types of people who attend the movies: the "genius who can't resist answering the oh-so-challenging film trivia slides they show before the movie" (Coach Z); the "guy who insists on rattling off the complete filmographies of each of the actors" ([[Strong Sad]]); the "guy sitting next to you munching popcorn" ([[The Cheat]]); the person who "regularly sneak[s] in their own all-you-can-eat fajitas" ([[The King of Town]]); and the "little girl behind [him] who wouldn't shut up" (Homestar Runner). Here, it is also revealed that the theater requests that all [[Strong Bad's Bazooka|bazookas]] be turned off before the film.

The featured movies playing at the movie theater include ''[[King Bubsgonzola Supreme]]'' and ''[[dangeresque 3|Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective]]''.

This theater is the modern equivalent of [[The Old Movie Reel Room]] of the [[Old-Timey]] era.

==Appearances==
*'''Debut:''' [[A Jorb Well Done]]
*Email [[montage]]
*Email [[the movies]]
*[[DNA Evidence]]
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 15.2]] (Easter egg)
*Email [[rated]]

[[Category:Places|Movie Theater, The]]

montage

2009-02-04T03:44:15Z

Zonis: /* Fast Forward */ added link to Showdown song's page in Fast Forward, previously it was just in quotes.

{{sbenav|117}}
[[Image:sbemail117.png|thumb|"You're a girl. Or maybe a wagon. Filled up with pancakes."]]

Strong Bad "creats" a few montages about a wagon fulla pancakes.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]], {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Pond]], [[The Movie Theater]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[Race Track]], [[Gymnasium]], [[The Stick]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' Monday, November 8, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 3:15

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Four}}

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{announcing}'' Tonight on Strong Bad Email: Comedian Coach Z, actress Marzipan, and some guy from a zoo.

''{reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
Why don't you creat a montage? 
 
Steve 
Surf City, NJ</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad pronounces "creat" as "cree-at" and reads NJ as "No Job"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' ''{in a high-pitched, mocking voice}'' Oooohhh! Why don't you creat an alternate reality where you don't have to spell correctly ''{short pause}'' and I talk like this. And your name is Watered Down! ''{Strong Bad clears the screen and continues typing in normal voice.}'' A montage, eh Watered Down? Like, about whatever? Okay. I'll make a montage about...

''{cut to an empty field}''

Me. ''{Strong Bad appears}''

And a wagon. ''{a wagon appears, and a short tune starts playing}''

Full of pancakes. ''{pancakes appear in the wagon}''

''{Diamond wipe to Strong Bad and the wagon walking past Bubs' Concession Stand.}''

''{Wipe to a field where Strong Bad kicks the wagon calmly.}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad pulling the wagon uphill. Music stops when Strong Bad starts speaking.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooh, or maybe a montage of me falling in love with the wagon full of pancakes.

''{Heart wipe to Strong Bad in a boat with the wagon. They are both holding glasses of wine, romantic music starts playing.}''

''{singing}''

Let's make this moment be the symbol of our lives 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon listening to a Taranchula LP on headphones.}'' 
We'll pawn your dad's computer 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon, under the stars. Strong Bad points to some shooting stars in the distance.}'' 
and we'll sail to paradise 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon spinning around, holding "hands".}'' 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon at the movies. Strong Bad drops some popcorn.}'' 
You're a girl... or maybe a wagon... 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon at Marshmallow's Last Stand. Strong Bad puts ketchup on some fries while laughing and smiling.} 
filled up with pancakes 
''{Cut to Strong Bad frolicking across a field as the wagon follows.}'' 

'''STRONG BAD:''' Or maybe a montage of the wagon full of pancakes—

''{Cut to a front door view of The Cheat and the wagon, both sporting business-class fedoras.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —and The Cheat being down-on-their-luck door-to-door salesmen.

''{Cut to The Cheat lying in the wagon as the wagon rolls past.}''

''{Several doors slam on The Cheat at different angles.}''

''{singing}''
You can't do it so give up now 
Whatcha gonna do when your dough runs out? 
Ain't that a drag? 
''{Cut to the wagon sitting in an arm chair while the Cheat lies on the floor in front, smoking.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{He stops singing.}'' No, I got it. A montage of the wagon full of pancakes training—

''{Cut to Homestar in a black shirt that says "The #1" looking at the wagon in a field.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —for the championship.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' A wagon fulla pamcakes? In the Champeenship?! I'd like to see ya try!

''{Zoom in on pancakes as training music starts to play.}''

''{Cut to the wagon climbing the stairs of a stadium.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}''
Guts, guts, and might ''{The wagon's handle slowly collapses on top of a barbell.}'' 
''{Cut to Strong Bad and the wagon on a track.}'' 
Liftin' weights and feelin' all right ''{Strong Bad clicks a stop watch.''} 
''{Cut to a silhouette of Strong Bad and the wagon running past a sunset and an ocean.}'' 
It's a showdown going downtown 
You're gonna mess around showdown 
''{Cut to the wagon ascending the bleachers again.}'' 
Put your nose down showdown 
''{Cut to quick shot of wagon jumping up and down at the top of the bleachers.}'' 

''{Cut to Homestar Runner, who is now wearing a karate black-belt and head-band, and the wagon in a gym as Coach Z looks on in a referee costume.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hi-yah! Hi-yah! ''{Homestar kicks.}''

''{The wagon's handle falls on Homestar, just like it did while training with the barbell, and Homestar falls down.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oof!

'''COACH Z:''' The pamcakes wins!

''{A buzzer sounds and the score changes from 6–6 to 6–7 on the scoreboard.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Showdown.

''{Cut to Strong Bad at the Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Those were some good montages, eh Watered Down? That was like, a montage of montages. The only thing we left out is the end credits photo montage. ''{Music starts up}'' Hit it!

''{Cut to a glossy of Strong Bad and the wagon in the boat.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': ''{singing}''
Partying... ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to glossy of Strong Bad about to kick the wagon.}''
It's the weekend... ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to glossy of Strong Bad and the wagon in the movie theater.}'' 
''{Cut to a closeup of The Cheat lying on the floor.}'' 
'''CAPTION:''' The Cheat never sold a single box of toner. He is currently unemployed. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still singing}'' And a wagon... ''party party party''. 
Full of pancakes... 
''{Cut to Homestar kicking in the gym.}'' 
'''CAPTION''': Homestar sold his "The #1" shirt for $3(US). He got a good deal. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still singing}'' ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to a glossy of Strong Bad frolicing across the field, the wagon not in the photo.}'' 
'''CAPTION''': Strong Bad went on to host some show on Animal Planet. 
It was cancelled before the first commercial break. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still singing}'' And we're partying... ''party party party'' 
''{Cut to the wagon with a fedora.}'' 
'''CAPTION''': After winning the champeenship, the Wagon Fulla Pancakes did some local TV spots for a used car dealership. 
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' It's the weekend... ''party party party'' 
And we're partying... ''party party party'' 
Everybody does it tonnniiight... 
'''CAPTION''': It currently resides in Long Beach with its spouse and 2 children.

''{Homestar quits singing.}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down over the photo.}''

''{After about 5 seconds, cut to a captioned photo of the current scene}''

'''CAPTION''': The Paper stuck around until email #173, at which time Strong Bad upgraded to an inkjet printer.

== Easter Eggs ==
[[Image:Showdown.png|thumb|It's a showdown!]]
*At the end, click on "4 Wheels" on the wagon to see Homestar, undefeated in spirit, trying to recreate the tournament scene from [[Wikipedia:The Karate Kid|The Karate Kid]].
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing in the now dark champeenship stadium}''
:I'm the best around!
:Sombadubba sombadubba, take me down!
:I'm the best around!
:Dubba dubba dubbado, take me down!
:''{His score on the scoreboard behind him turns from 0 to -1 as the buzzing sound is heard.}''

*At the end, click on "Strong Bad" to see another scene.
:''{Highly pixelated versions of Strong Bad wearing a pink jogging suit and the Wagon Fulla Pancakes are running through a highly pixelated city, which is the NYC backdrop (minus the [[Wikipedia:World Trade Center|World Trade Center]] towers) from Punch-Out!! on the NES.}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' It's a showdown going downtown
:You're gonna mess around showdown
:Put your nose down showdown

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*In filmic terms, scholars [[Wikipedia:David Bordwell|David Bordwell]] and Kristin Thompson define a [[Wikipedia:Montage (film)|montage]] sequence as "a segment of film which summarizes a topic or compresses a passage of time into brief symbolic or typical images." Also, montage sequences generally represent a longer passage of time than the also-typical "dissolve" or "fade" techniques between shots.

===Trivia===
*This is the earliest email confirmed to be sent by an HRWiki user: [[User:Porplemontage|Porplemontage]].
*In the original version of this email, the background was static while Strong Bad and the wagon were spinning around. It has since been fixed to blurred trees and The Stick.
*This email introduces an updated, more symmetrical version of the gray "horns" on Strong Bad's mask.

===Remarks===
*Homestar gets less money for a shirt than he gets for a half-eaten breakfast burrito in [[HR:auction.html|"Some Type of Online Auction"]].
*Strong Bad probably changed Steve's name to Watered Down to prevent another "[[Eh! Steve!]]" crack, like he did in [[kids' book]] and [[different town]].
*The scoreboard in the gym has the word "TIMES" written under the timer.

===Goofs===
*As The Cheat keeps getting doors slammed in his face as a salesman, the last place he visits with the blue wall and white door, the door frame ends before the bottom of the toon's frame, and the right end of the door ends before the right of the frame.
*Just after Strong Bad clicks his stopwatch, the landscape shifts slightly and the piles of pancakes change in height and location. This occurs because the jpeg image used for the screen transition didn't exactly match the previous frame.

===Glitches===
*Between The Wagon's picture and The Paper's picture, there's a split-second sound clip that sounds like the beginning of "It's" from the Champeenship montage, and the Easter egg at the end.

===Inside References===
*The scene with Strong Bad and the Wagon Fulla Pancakes sitting in the canoe is reminiscent of [[lures & jigs]], where Strong Bad and Coach Z fish in the exact same spot. This is probably prompted by the [[lures & jigs]] DVD Commentary, in which [[The Brothers Chaps]] decide to reuse the lake, and which was presumably recorded before this email came out. In this email, TBC also reused [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], the [[Quite Fancy 'Chup|ketchup]] and fries from [[funny]], the [[The Halloween House|house]] from [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], and [[The Movie Theater]] from [[A Jorb Well Done]].
*The song Strong Bad sings when he falls in love with the wagon is reminiscent of the style of [[The Kinda Long-Haired Band]].
*The [[Taranchula]] album cover is the same one from the liner notes of [[Strong Bad Sings and Other Type Hits]], on which their song [[Moving Very Slowly]] appears. The name "Taranchula" also appears in the e-mail [[band names]].
*The first and last house that The Cheat and the Wagon Fulla Pancakes stop at are the same house. They are also the same format of the house that you give treats from in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*Besides the [[The Cheat's Smoking Challenge|smoking game]] and [[big white face]], this is the first actual cartoon in which we see [[Smoking#The Cheat's Smoking|The Cheat smoking]]. Strong Bad originally acknowledged The Cheat's nicotine habit in [[Where's The Cheat?]]
*The sparkling water seen while Strong Bad is running on the horizon seems to be the same from [[Main Page 3]].
*The lyric "Lifting weights and feeling all right", from the song played during the training montage, may be a reference to [[dangeresque 3]]'s "Riding in a Corvette and feeling all right" lyric.
*"The #1" T-Shirt is loosely referenced by Strong Sad in the commentary of [[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD|In Search Of The Yello Dello]].
**Though the shirt Strong Sad refers to says "''I'm'' #1" according to him, as opposed to "''The'' #1."
*Strong Bad has a problem identifying things that rhyme with "agon" in song. In this email, he mistakes a wagon for a girl, and in [[dragon]] he mistakes a dragon for a man, or maybe a dragon man. He catches the mistake both times.
*The buzzer used for the scoreboard is the same as the [[DELETED]] buzzer.
*The score of -1 is the first instance of an [[Scoreboard#Irregular Scores|irregular score]].
*During all scenes with Strong Bad in love with the Wagon Fulla Pancakes, Strong Bad [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]].

===Real-World References===
*The song Homestar is singing in the Easter egg ("You're the Best") comes from the 1984 classic ''[[Wikipedia:The Karate Kid|The Karate Kid]]''. Homestar's headband, bearing the design of an old Japanese flag, is also a reference to this film, and has appeared before in both [[pom pom]] and [[Theme Song Video]].
**There is actually a song called "Training Montage" from Rocky IV by Vince DiCola.
**The scene during which "You're the Best" plays in ''The Karate Kid'' is another well-known martial arts training montage.
*Much of the wagon's training sequence (especially the wagon "running" up the stairs) is a parody of the training sequence from the immortal boxing epic, ''[[Wikipedia:Rocky (series)|Rocky]]'', including the "[[Wikipedia:Rocky Steps|Rocky steps]]".
*The Strong Bad Easter egg is a take on the popular [[Nintendo|NES]] game ''[[Wikipedia:Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!|Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!]]'', in which players saw a similar sequence in between bouts of various boxing circuits (the jumps from Minor to Major, and from Major to World).
**The ''Punch-Out!!'' sequence itself was a clear reference to the training sequence in ''[[Wikipedia:Rocky (series)|Rocky]]''.
*There actually is a system call in the [[Wikipedia:Unix|Unix]] operating system called <tt>creat</tt>. It creat(e)s a new file.
*The "some guy from a zoo" line by Strong Bad during the "Late-Night Talk Show"-style intro is most likely a reference to how such shows often resort to the gimmick of having zoo workers appear on the show, accompanied by their animal partners, whose mischievous antics can often get a cheap laugh from the audience.
*The line about Strong Bad's show being canceled before the commercial break may be a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:Turn-On|Turn-On]]'', which was pre-empted by many affiliates a mere 10 minutes into its pilot episode.
*The End Credits Photo Montage song is reminiscent of the ''[[Wikipedia:Queen (band)|Queen]]'' song "Headlong."
*''[[Wikipedia:Animal Planet|Animal Planet]]'' is a TV network devoted to programs about animals and nature.
* The "Where are they now" photos and text at the end of the email are a likely reference to the ending of the 1973 film [[Wikipedia:American Graffiti|American Graffiti]], where it was first used, or the 1978 movie [[Wikipedia:National Lampoon's Animal House|National Lampoon's Animal House]].

===Fast Forward===
[[Image:The Paper---Shreder'd + montage.PNG|thumb|220px|right|'Twas foretold]]
*The Wagon Fulla Pancakes really ''does'' do some spots for a used car dealership, as it shows up in a commercial for [[Senor Cardgage]]'s in [[Senorial Day]].
*Strong Bad and his pink suit from the Easter egg show up again in [[rock opera]].
*Homestar's "weekend" song plays at [[The King of Town]]'s party of [[boring (really)]].
*The [[Showdown]] song plays while Pom Pom and Homestar work out in [[Strongest Man in the World]], and during the montage of Strong Bad digging a hole in Marzipan's front yard in [[Homestar Ruiner]].
*The Paper does indeed stick around until email #173 ([[the paper]]), at which time Strong Bad actually does upgrade to an [[New Paper|inkjet printer]]. This change was also foreshadowed in email 172 ([[more armies]]) when The Paper comes down torn and sick looking. Strong Bad remarks that "that's a bad sign".

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Mike Chapman]], [[Marzipan]])

'''MATT:''' Listen... ''{Strong Bad says, "actress Marzipan" in the background.}'' And we've got Marzipan right here with us!

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously, indecipherable}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah!

'''MATT:''' He called you an actress. Isn't that nice?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah!

'''MATT:''' Seems like usually he calls you something worse than that.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah!

''{Matt and Mike both laugh.}''

'''MIKE:''' You're doing a good job acting right now, saying the word "yeah" over and over again.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Thank you.

'''MATT:''' Oh, thank you. A new word.

'''MARZIPAN:''' So, what are we here for, today?

'''MIKE:''' We're doing the commentary for the "montage" email.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. We're here in this tiny, glass-enclosed booth, recording some commentary.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It is getting smelly in here, too.

'''MATT:''' It is. Mike and I have been in here all day.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It smells like Fritos.

'''MIKE:''' Have you ever seen this email before?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I... haven't.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}''

'''MIKE:''' Look, he's got a wagon fulla pancakes, isn't that something?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Those are not real pancakes.

'''MIKE:''' No? What are they?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I dunno, I think they're made out of plaster.

'''MATT:''' Look, Mike, there's the lake that did appear later as per your, uh, prophecy on the old DVD.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, yeah.

'''MATT:''' Your comments of the—

'''MIKE:''' ''{indecipherable}''

'''MATT:''' Yeah, that we were going to use it later and— and we did, just a few weeks after that I think.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It really is starting to smell.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Let's comment more on the— on the email. Is that— that was completely new, that— I mean it looks kind of like the one from — can't say "job" — doesn't it? But that theater—?

'''MIKE:''' It's been modified for the theater, yeah.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Um, we should head back there someday, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' And maybe we will.

'''MATT:''' For a movie.

'''MIKE:''' Look, there's your friend The Cheat.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Look, the pancakes are wearing a hat, Marzipan.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I see.

'''MATT:''' And holding a briefcase somehow.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' And now they're enjoying a highball.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I didn't know that The Cheat smoked!

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' He's got a problem.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I didn't know that—

'''MIKE:''' ''{whispering}'' There's your boyfriend.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar had that— that's ''my'' shirt.

'''MATT:''' That's yours? Uh oh, 'cause he sells it later on in this email, so—

'''MARZIPAN:''' That was mine! I was wondering what happened to it.

'''MATT:''' He got a good deal for it, at least.

'''MARZIPAN:''' What'd he get?

'''MATT:''' Uh, I'm not sure. Probably, like, 17 dollars.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I'll tell him he needs to split the proceeds.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' He should. Sounds like it should ''all'' go to you; it was ''your'' shirt.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' A nice sunset.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It's okay.

''{Pause}''

'''MATT:''' Ohhh, Homestar looks like Daniel LaRusso—

'''MIKE:''' His Karate's a joke. "You think you can rely on that crane crap?"

'''MARZIPAN:''' He's actually trained in Tae Kwon Do.

'''MATT:''' Really? Homestar is?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Wow.

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's probably why he didn't do well with the Karate.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' Oh ho! He learned the wrong martial art.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Right.

'''MATT:''' What do you think of this, um, end of the— end of the movie photo montage?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I think it's okay.

'''MATT:''' See, look. Oh! He— no, sorry, I lied. He got it for three bucks. Not 17.

'''MIKE:''' You got a buck-fifty comin' to ya.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I— Animal Planet's my favorite program.

'''MATT:''' Hey, isn't "cancelled" spelled wrong there?

'''MIKE:''' Was it?

'''MATT:''' I think "cancelled" only has one L. Let's change that before we put out this DVD.

'''MIKE:''' We can— ''{Pause}'' Oh, it's not over yet.

'''MATT:''' Oh, it's not, Marzipan.

'''MIKE:''' You might think it's over, but it's not.

'''MATT:''' Say something!

'''MIKE:''' Now it's over.

===Fun Facts===
*Daniel LaRusso is the name of the main character from ''[[Wikipedia:The Karate Kid|The Karate Kid]]''.
*"Cancelled" appears on both the website and DVD. Though both are correct ways of spelling, "canceled" is generally a more American way of spelling it.
*Unlike her prior DVD commentary appearances in emails 1-100, Marzipan has largely dropped the premise that homestarrunner.com is a show and not "real" life.
*"Can't Say Job" is the name of the HTML and Flash files for [[A Jorb Well Done]].
*[[Wikipedia:Tae Kwon Do|Tae Kwon Do]] (literally ''hand and foot art'') is a Korean form of martial arts.

== External Links ==
{{sbemailextlinks|117|1226}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]
[[Category:Podstar Runner]]

Talk:Hremail 2000

2009-02-03T19:50:07Z

Zonis: /* Cow Clips */

Talk:Hremail 2000

2009-02-03T19:49:36Z

Zonis: /**/Cow Clips

User talk:Zonis

2009-01-31T21:44:57Z

Zonis: replaced the page with 'wait what?'

wait what?

pay plus

2009-01-31T21:43:16Z

Zonis: created redirect

#REDIRECT [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]

G

2009-01-30T06:58:24Z

Zonis: /* Notable Appearances */

[[Image:homsar G.PNG|thumb|"That's a healthy piece of real estate."]]
[[The Brothers Chaps]] tend to toss the letter '''G''' around in places one would not normally expect to see it. It seems as if when The Brothers Chaps need to pick a letter, G is usually their choice.

==Notable Appearances==
*Email [[suntan]] — [[Strong Sad]]'s plush lobster [[Gooblies]] has a tag labeled "G".
*[[TROGDOR!]] — The "G" in the title must be clicked to access the hint screen.
*[[Cheat Commandos...O's]] — [[Ser-g-geant Marshie]] reports for duty.
*Email [[for kids]] — [[Homsar]]'s letter of the day was "G".
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]] — [[What's Her Face]] claimed that she could count to "G".
*Email [[pizzaz]] — [[Strong Bad]] said the secret to his pizzaz is the three G's: gumption, gum, and minty gargle.
*[[Happy Fireworks]] — [[The Cheat]]'s firework display was "Plan G".
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]] — [[Cheerleader]] [[Fourth Wall Breaks|breaks the fourth wall]] by reading a script for the toon she is in. While reading, she asks, "Does "ugs" have one "g" or two?" to which [[The Ugly One]] replies, "The Deuce."
*Email [[the paper]] — in an Easter egg, a "G" replaces the "?" used as the Home team's score on the [[Scoreboard]] when Strong Bad interrupts the scene.
*Email [[hygiene]] — Strong Bad's fictional alias "Gene" receives a grade of G- on a school assignment.
*Email [[licensed]] — One of the names of the "country of manufacture" is Double G.
*Email [[shapeshifter]] — Strong Bad thanks his "G-moms" for the ability to turn into a sweater.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 14]] — One of [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#The Seniors|The Seniors]] has a "G" on his cap.
*[[Homestar Ruiner]] — Homestar wonders whether despair is spelled with one "G" or two.
*[[Place ya bets!]] — Homestar bets half a "G" that Strong Bad doesn't make it through SBEmail 200 alive.
*[[Baddest of the Bands]] — Bubs "carries a G" while doing math to figure out how much Strong Bad still owes him.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
Image:Gooblies Pet Lobster.PNG|<center>Gooblies the Lobster '''[[suntan]]'''</center>
Image:Ser-g-geant Marshie Action Figure.PNG|<center>Ser-'''g'''-geant Marshie '''[[Cheat Commandos...O's]]'''</center>
Image:count to G.PNG|<center>"I can count to G" '''[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]]'''</center>
Image:HappyFireworksCheatsHeadExplode.png|<center>Plan G '''[[Happy Fireworks]]'''</center>
Image:Not again.PNG|<center>G on scoreboard '''[[the paper]]'''</center>
Image:Gminus.PNG|<center>G- '''[[hygiene]]'''</center>
Image:Double G.PNG|<center>Double G '''[[licensed]]'''</center>
Image:G hat.png|<center>G Hat '''[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 14]]'''</center>
</gallery>

==Mispronunciation of G==
Words that start with a hard "G" sound are sometimes pronounced with a soft "G" (or "J") sound instead.
*Email [[website]] — [[Strong Bad]] is unsure whether to pronounce "gif" with a hard or soft G.
*[[A Decemberween Pageant]] — [[Dr. Christmas]] pronounces "[[gold]]" as "jold".
*[[Homsar Main Page]] — Homsar reads "Games" as "james".
*Email [[the show]] — [[Marshie]] says "hey guys" as "hey juys".
*Email [[isp]] — Strong Bad is once again confused about the pronunciation of "gif".
*Email [[redesign]] — Sundae Drivin' displays "Your James Over" when Strong Bad loses.
*[[Main Page 25]] — Marshie mispronounces both "guys" and "games" as "juys" and "james".

[[Category:Word running gags]]

G

2009-01-30T06:57:16Z

Zonis: /* Notable Appearances */ Shapeshifter G-moms

[[Image:homsar G.PNG|thumb|"That's a healthy piece of real estate."]]
[[The Brothers Chaps]] tend to toss the letter '''G''' around in places one would not normally expect to see it. It seems as if when The Brothers Chaps need to pick a letter, G is usually their choice.

==Notable Appearances==
*Email [[suntan]] — [[Strong Sad]]'s plush lobster [[Gooblies]] has a tag labeled "G".
*[[TROGDOR!]] — The "G" in the title must be clicked to access the hint screen.
*[[Cheat Commandos...O's]] — [[Ser-g-geant Marshie]] reports for duty.
*Email [[for kids]] — [[Homsar]]'s letter of the day was "G".
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]] — [[What's Her Face]] claimed that she could count to "G".
*Email [[pizzaz]] — [[Strong Bad]] said the secret to his pizzaz is the three G's: gumption, gum, and minty gargle.
*[[Happy Fireworks]] — [[The Cheat]]'s firework display was "Plan G".
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]] — [[Cheerleader]] [[Fourth Wall Breaks|breaks the fourth wall]] by reading a script for the toon she is in. While reading, she asks, "Does "ugs" have one "g" or two?" to which [[The Ugly One]] replies, "The Deuce."
*Email [[the paper]] — in an Easter egg, a "G" replaces the "?" used as the Home team's score on the [[Scoreboard]] when Strong Bad interrupts the scene.
*Email [[hygiene]] — Strong Bad's fictional alias "Gene" receives a grade of G- on a school assignment.
*Email [[licensed]] — One of the names of the "country of manufacture" is Double G.
*Email [[shapeshifter]] — Strong Bad thanks his G-moms for the ability to turn into a sweater.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 14]] — One of [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#The Seniors|The Seniors]] has a "G" on his cap.
*[[Homestar Ruiner]] — Homestar wonders whether despair is spelled with one "G" or two.
*[[Place ya bets!]] — Homestar bets half a "G" that Strong Bad doesn't make it through SBEmail 200 alive.
*[[Baddest of the Bands]] — Bubs "carries a G" while doing math to figure out how much Strong Bad still owes him.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
Image:Gooblies Pet Lobster.PNG|<center>Gooblies the Lobster '''[[suntan]]'''</center>
Image:Ser-g-geant Marshie Action Figure.PNG|<center>Ser-'''g'''-geant Marshie '''[[Cheat Commandos...O's]]'''</center>
Image:count to G.PNG|<center>"I can count to G" '''[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]]'''</center>
Image:HappyFireworksCheatsHeadExplode.png|<center>Plan G '''[[Happy Fireworks]]'''</center>
Image:Not again.PNG|<center>G on scoreboard '''[[the paper]]'''</center>
Image:Gminus.PNG|<center>G- '''[[hygiene]]'''</center>
Image:Double G.PNG|<center>Double G '''[[licensed]]'''</center>
Image:G hat.png|<center>G Hat '''[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 14]]'''</center>
</gallery>

==Mispronunciation of G==
Words that start with a hard "G" sound are sometimes pronounced with a soft "G" (or "J") sound instead.
*Email [[website]] — [[Strong Bad]] is unsure whether to pronounce "gif" with a hard or soft G.
*[[A Decemberween Pageant]] — [[Dr. Christmas]] pronounces "[[gold]]" as "jold".
*[[Homsar Main Page]] — Homsar reads "Games" as "james".
*Email [[the show]] — [[Marshie]] says "hey guys" as "hey juys".
*Email [[isp]] — Strong Bad is once again confused about the pronunciation of "gif".
*Email [[redesign]] — Sundae Drivin' displays "Your James Over" when Strong Bad loses.
*[[Main Page 25]] — Marshie mispronounces both "guys" and "games" as "juys" and "james".

[[Category:Word running gags]]

shapeshifter

2009-01-30T06:54:27Z

Zonis: /* Inside References */ G-mon's

{{sbenav|192}}
[[Image:sbemail192.png|thumb|"I said a tiger, not a poodle!"]]

Strong Bad explains why shapeshifting isn't as attractive as it sounds.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Coach Z}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' Monday, March 31, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 4:04 [[TV Time Toons Menu|official]], 4:07 actual

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc Six}}

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' Back again. Checking email from my friends. I mean, the stupid people that write me.

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: email</div>
Dear Strongbad, if you could shapeshift, waht would you 
turn into? 
From Paxton Westergard Anacortes, Washington
</blockquote>
''{Strong Bad reads "waht" as "waaaaaat," with high inflection. He also reads "Paxton Westergard Anacortes, Washington" as the sender's full name.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh. You'll never be a weatherman with a name like that. How about just... Paxto West? ''{typing}'' Now you might think I'd be all over this shapeshifting business Paxto, but if comic books, cartoons, and Sci-Fi Original Movies have taught me anything, it's that shapeshifting comes with a bunch of boring rules and restrictions that limit its potential Turn-Into-A-Bulldozer-Whenever-I-Wantity. ''{clears screen, speaks in mocking voice}'' You can turn into a machine gun but not bullets, contemporary jazz turns you back to normal, you can only turn into presents your grandma's knitted for you. ''{speaks normally}'' Crap like that. For example, let's say I could turn into any species... OF BALLOON ANIMAL!!??

''{Cut to the Field. Strong Bad, Marzipan and The Cheat are there. The Cheat's fur is messed up and he's foaming at the mouth}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look out! A rabid The Cheat! I'll handle this!

''{The scene pauses like a video tape}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Oh yeah. Another thing about shapeshifting is that you have to have a cool trademark sound effect that happens every time you change forms.

''{The scene unpauses}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shapeshift unto... A Sumatran tiger! DWAYNE!

''{The word "DWAYNE!!" appears above Strong Bad and fades, as it continues to do every time he shapeshifts. Strong Bad turns into a pink, four-legged balloon animal}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I said a tiger, not a poodle! ''{with an annoyed tone}'' DWAYNE. ''{Turns into a blue balloon animal of the same shape, but with a different tail and droopy nose.}'' A ''tiger'', not a donkey. Dwayne. ''{The sound effect appears in lowercase and has an even more annoyed tone to it, and Strong Bad turns into an orange balloon animal, still of the same shape, but with shorter ears and muzzle.}'' That's better. Now stand back! ''{The wind starts to blow Strong Bad away.}'' Um...

''{The Cheat jumps at Marzipan and she gasps. Then the scene is paused again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Ooh, but what if I could turn into legal tender? ''{Cut to Strong Bad approaching Bubs' Concession Stand}'' One of the only good ''legal'' things in existence.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Say, Bubs. How much for that Lamborghini hot tub you got back there?

'''BUBS:''' The what? ''{Looks down}'' Oh! That Lamborghini hot tub. It sure is back here! That'll run you one hundred... ''{Bubs and Strong Bad jerk their heads back twice}'' dollars.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Swedish deals! Shapeshift unto... A hundred dollar bill! DWAYNE!

''{Strong Bad turns into a hundred dollar bill, which floats down onto the counter, then is blown away by the wind.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So... Apparently wind is a pretty big problem for most shapeshifters.

''{Cut to Coach Z walking along. Strong Bad floats nearby.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, check it out! A Benjamin! ''{Snatches Strong Bad out of the air and puts him in a pocket, causing drops of liquid to go flying}'' I'll just tuck you into the loose band of my sweaty-sweat-sweats! ''{Hits his waist for emphasis. More liquid goes flying}''

''{Cut to Strong Bad lying on the floor next to his computer chair}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{distressed}'' Blaaaaaaaggghhhh! Hang on. Lemme try again. What if I could turn into... almost anyone in the world? Is that too much to ask?

''{Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat in the Field. They are standing next to a large structure made from round objects}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Don't worry! I know just how to get us through this ten-foot thick wall of pecan cheese balls! Shapeshift unto... The King of Town! DWAYNE! ''{Turns into the King of Town. His voice stays the same, however}'' Norwegian deals! It worked! ''This'' should only take a few seconds! ''{He leans forward and makes chomping noises. The wall of pecan cheese balls is unaffected}'' R— why isn't this working? ''{Turns side on. Half of him is missing. Strong Bad speaks bitterly}'' Oh, I get it. ''{The Cheat screams and runs away}'' I can turn into ''almost'' anyone. Well, two can play at this game, dumb rules of shapeshifting!

''{Cut to Strong Bad, back in his normal form, at Bubs' Concession Stand. Bubs isn't there}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Say Bubs, I'd like one Lamborghini hot tub for free, please. Shapeshift unto Bubs! DWAYNE! ''{Strong Bad turns into Bubs's legs}'' Oh man! I turned into the wrong "almost". This plan was supposed to be foolproof. All anybody ever sees is Bubs' ample top portions!

'''COACH Z:''' ''{Offscreen}'' Oh Bubs! Oh Bubs! I'm coming to your concession stand to talk to you!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wait. Maybe I can still make this work! ''{He jumps onto the counter, turning himself upside-down in the process}''

''{Coach Z comes onscreen}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, nice headstand, Bubs. I'd like one Lamborghini hot tub, please. ''{pulls out some money from his pocket}'' Allow me to use this moistened hundred dollar bill I found earlier today.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wait, what?

''{Strong Bad the balloon animal floats past}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh look! A giraffe!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad sitting at his computer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Uh, that was confusing. See what I mean? Shapeshifting is laden with confusing troubles and a severe lack of hot tubs.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{offscreen}'' Oh Strong Bad! Oh Strong Bad, I'm coming to your computer desk to talk to you!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{quietly}'' Oh crap! DWAYNE!

''{Strong Bad turns into a colorful scarf, with a tag on it reading "From: Grandma". Homestar walks in holding a chessboard with a glob of vanilla ice cream with chocolate sprinkles and a cherry on top and assorted chess pieces.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{angrily}'' Oh. It's you again, scarf from Grandma! Never mind.

''{He turns and walks away}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Phew. Maybe it's not ''all'' bad. Thanks, G-mom's.

''{[[New Paper]] comes down}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Paxto_Postcard.png|thumb|"Local weather with Tire!"]]
*Click on the words "Paxton Westergard" after Strong Bad says "Paxto West" to see a picture of the Tire as a [[local news|weather forecaster]].
*At the end click on Strong Bad to make him shape shift from the scarf to the balloon donkey, a $100 bill, Bubs's legs, Strong Bad, and back to the scarf, along with "Dwayne!" shape shifting sound effect.
*Clicking on the diskette box at the end yields this secret code: [[YouTube:3uSyK2RdlUY|3uSyK2RdlUY]], which is a hash representing part of the URL to the YouTube video [[Strong Bad Gameways]].

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*{{p|l=http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=benjamins Benjamins}} is urban slang for a 100 dollar bill or money in general. It is so named because [[Wikipedia:Benjamin Franklin|Benjamin Franklin]] is on the face.

===Trivia===
*The label on the [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads [[Floppy Disk Container#relentless|relentless]].
*Initially, this toon was released without the Easter egg leading to [[Strong Bad Gameways]]. It was added over a day later.
*If the mound of pecan cheese-balls really is ten feet thick at its center, then Strong Bad is slightly more than four feet, six inches tall.
*The summary of the [[Podstar Runner]] RSS feed reads, "Strong Bad explains why shapeshifting is overrated".

===Remarks===
*In the Easter egg at the end, Strong Bad appears in front of New Paper rather than behind it, as he normally does.
*When the video pauses when The Cheat pounces on Marzipan, the hills in the background shake and distort from the video, but The Cheat's hair (which is in front of the hills) is not affected.


===Inside References===
*The [[Tire]] was previously seen in the role of a weatherman in [[local news]].
*The rabid The Cheat was previously seen in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].
*The scarf is from [[parents|Grandma]].
*A drawing of half of the King of Town was previously seen in the [[Sketchbook 2006#SK-2006-08-03|sketchbook]].
*Strong Bad's simultaneous appearance as Bubs's legs, a $100 bill, and a balloon tiger, which Strong Bad identifies as "confusing", is an incidence of [[duplicate characters]].
*The "Paused" frame during the rabid The Cheat scene is in the same style as the VHS portraits in the [[character videos]].
*Strongbad's line of "Thanks, G-mom's" is another reference to [[G]].

===Real-World References===

*"Sci-Fi Original Movies" refers to the [[Wikipedia:Sci Fi Channel (United States)|Sci Fi Channel]], a TV network that specializes in science fiction and speculative fiction programming.
*[[Wikipedia:Lamborghini|Lamborghini]] is an [[Wikipedia:Italy|Italian]] automobile manufacturer known for its high-performance vehicles.
*The reference to turning into machine guns but not the bullets refers to a scene in the movie [[Wikipedia:Terminator 2|Terminator 2]] in which [[Wikipedia:Arnold Schwarzenegger|Arnold Schwarzenegger]] explains the extent of the [[Wikipedia:T-1000|T-1000]]'s shapeshifting ability: to change into any solid metal shape, but not guns and explosives that have "chemicals" or "moving parts".
*The way Strong Bad says "shapeshift unto" whatever is in a similar style to [[Wikipedia: The Wonder Twins|The Wonder Twins]].

==DVD Version==
{{commentary|email=true}}
{{sectionstub}}

== External Links ==
{{sbemailextlinks|192|13806}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Podstar Runner]]

Talk:Parsnips A-Plenty

2009-01-30T06:45:42Z

Zonis: /* Where have all the Parsnips gone? */

== Revising ==
Looks like this one needs revising. I'm on it. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 14:42, 5 Aug 2004 (MST)

== American Flag ==
The flag with 8 stars in a circle, and 5 stripes, is closer to the Confederate Stars and Bars (originally 7 stars and 3 stripes) than any incarnation of the U.S. flag (originally 13 stars and 13 stripes). I don't know whether this is worth remarking on the page. -- [[User:Caradhras|Caradhras]] 07:01, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I think that would be worth posting on the page, so I say go ahead. Don't be afraid to post anything that you think is worth remarking on. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 07:07, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:So I did, and it was immediately reverted. I thought the point of "remarks" was to point out something interesting. I wasn't claiming it was the same flag or that Homestar lives in the C.S.A., just pointing out what struck me as an interesting coincidence. Apparently someone else disagrees. -- [[User:Caradhras|Caradhras]] 05:05, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Unfortunately, in most cases, if we open the door for interesting coincidences, the fun facts sections become severely bloated. The reason I don't think it's the same flag is because the caption reads "''U.S.'' Soup Bonds," and The Homestar is wearing a WWI helmet. Clearly, it's supposed to be an American flag, it just suffers from poor "old-timey" animation. Like you said, the resemblance is probably coincidental to the Confederate flag. On a side note, American Cival War armies actually suffered due to the similarities of the two flags, and the Southern troops demanded a flag that was [[Wikipedia:Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America#The_Second_National_Flag.2C_.22The_Stainless_Banner.22|easier to distinguish]] from the U.S. flag so that they wouldn't rally 'round the wrong one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:40, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Hell==

Is this the only time the word "hell" is used, other than the original character page ("Bubs makes a helluva snowcone?")

There was the use of "Hella tight" in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]].

OK, well then was this the first instance of cursing (y'know, the kind that seven-years-old-and-under kids shouldn't use} on the site? -{{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 18:48, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
:It's not technically cursing in this instance (since he's referring to the place). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Good point. I have to keep remembering that since I'm under 15. -{{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 19:03, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

PS:Anyone else like Weird Al? If so, post on my talk page.

== Pencils in Bubs' Can ==

Could the pencils in Old Timey Bubs' can possibly be a reference to The Cheat paying normal Bubs with pencil shavings, seeing as Old Timey Strong Bad and The Sneak just bought all of Old Timey Bubs' parsnips, possibly paying with pencils instead of pencil shavings? - [[User:SBLOUNSKCHED!|SBLOUNSKCHED!]] 18:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
:Another interesting thought on the same subject is that pencils might be seen as the "old timey" version of the pencil shavings - i.e., what the pencil shavings looked like a long time ago, before they were put through the sharpener. This may be a bit of a stretch though. {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 22:20, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
::You'll have to excuse my n00b-ness as I get used to how things run around here. I looked around, and, after seeing messages about boldness and whatnot, decided to be bold and post it. Feel free to delete either that or this talk section, or both, if you want. {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 00:34, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

:::Hmm. How can [[Parsnips A-Plenty]] reference [[lackey]] when "lackey" came out about two years after "Parsnips A-Plenty"? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 00:40, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Good point, didn't think of that one... um... oops? {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 00:44, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

:::::how about a fast-forward, then?-[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 02:33, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

== Parsnippitties ==

Shouldn't there be a mention that [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsnip parsnips] are real?-[[User:LordQuackingstick|LordQuackingstick]] 02:20, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

== Reference Missing ==

I don't the "scene missing" gag is a Monty Python reference. Missing scenes are common in old movies. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 00:00, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

== Where have all the Parsnips gone? ==

is a reference to the song [[Wikipedia:Where Have All the Flowers Gone?|Where Have All the Flowers Gone?]] by Pete Seeger.--[[Special:Contributions/63.139.175.45|63.139.175.45]] 05:31, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:Maybe. It's possible, I suppose, though I think it's too generic. I've always seen it as a reference to the slogan in the commercials back when Hershey's first invented their Cookies 'N Cream bar ("Where have all the cookies gone?"), for example. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:41, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:: I think they sound the same. Check it; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLe9pJSRas0--[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 06:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Decemberween Short Shorts

2006-12-20T02:04:39Z

Zonis: /**/Homestar's Halloween Costume Question

==transcript==

If it is still up for grabs I will do the transcript at 1pm eastern time (1 hour). I've never gotten to do one before. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

:Could I get Easter Eggs? I don't really care if I don't, however. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 16:54, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

::It's still up for grabs. Put up <nowiki>{{transcriptinprogress}}</nowiki> if you start. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:55, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

:::Ima work on Easter Eggs, so, I'd REALLY appriciate it if no one editied that section. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 16:57, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

::::I couldn't find any Easter eggs, Bluebry... —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:10, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

:::::Yeah...I noticed... {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:16, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

::::::Hey, is anyone doing the Cast/place thing? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 17:17, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

:::::::Hey Invisible Robot Fish, I got started on the transcript before I read the above message (I couldn't figure out why no one had started — sorry). It's 1PM EST now, do you want to do the other half? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:06, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

==Adding in this possible goof==

*During old timey short, the rat pile moves and gets lighter after homestar says "the most sanitary time of year"

I am unsure if intentional but the position of camera stays the same --[[User:68.47.9.181|68.47.9.181]] 17:29, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
:It's most likely intentional. Old-Timey cartoons are riddled with characters and props moving, showing primitive video editing. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:32, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

==Coach Z's Butt==
Coach Z's butt is abnormally big, but does that mean it should be listed on [[Big Butt]]? That article is strictly talking about mentions of the phrase "big butt". I feel it should be listed somewhere, since it involves both Coach Z and a butt (an apparent fixation of his). I feel we need to merge [[Butt-Patting]] into a new article with more than just patting and grabbing. [[Coach Z's Butt Habit]] or sommat? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 17:52, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

:I think the abnormal largeness is for comical/visibility reasons, not because Coach Z has an abnormally large butt. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 18:33, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

::I was talking more along the lines of, "Coach Z is shown yet again with something involving butts, I think we should list it somewhere." But where? {{User:FireBird/sig}} 03:03, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

:::Hmm...well, what about Coach Z's page? You know, [[Coach Z]]? Maybe as a section with links to various butt-related articles... {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 03:05, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== you can't do that on television ==

I pretty sure the Decemberween Short Shorts is suppose to be parodying you can't do that on television. The style and everything is really similar...

:It says it was a Canadian show. Did it air in the US? If not, methinks TBC don't even know what it is. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 23:58, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
::I'm American, and I'm vaguely familiar with the show (it was on Nickelodeon when I was a wery young. TBC are a few years older than me.) That said, I doubt that it's a reference. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:04, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
:::I'll add: 1) I'm a little older than TBC, and I clearly remember the show. 2) TBC have definitely seen the program, I'll bet... this pen! 3) I agree that this isn't likely to be an intentional reference. YCDTOT was a fun show but they didn't invent the style they used. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:07, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
::::TBC have referred to the program [[12:00#Easter Eggs|before]], but I doubt this is a reference for the reasons suggested above. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 00:17, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar's Helmet ==

Is it just me, or is that a cricket helmet Homestar was was wearing when he came into the locker room? Having seen them a few times, that's what it looks like to me. If it is, then it should be a Real World Reference. Plus, Coach Z's sports are huge mash-ups anyway, why not add an international sport (as long as its not soccer).

:[http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=cricket%20helmet&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi I totally buy it] — and that makes a lot more sense than a hardhat with a mouthguard, which is what I thought when I watched it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:49, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

::Though, the hardhat-with-mouthguard is kinda in keeping with the mangled "sports" they all play, with equipment and devices from a variety of sports and non-sports all mixed up together. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:01, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar's Wiggly Dancing ==

I don't recall seeing Homestar do this wiggly dancing before outside of the nobot easter egg in the sbemail "What I Want." Is this an inside reference?

:Methinks not. I think they just needed some strange/stupid/pie?/obscure dance to put in there. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:17, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== Picket Fence ==

In Hoosiers, as I recall the Picket Fence wasn't used to win the championship game. It was used to win an earlier, regular season game.

== Tube socks and Cosby Show ==

The first time I saw the tube socks as a gift, I thought of the final episode of the Cosby Show in which Theo gets tube socks as a gift from Kenny for his graduation. Not sure if this could be considered a reference, but I can't think of any other pop-culture references to someone getting tube socks as a gift. I just thought I'd mention it.

:I think it's just making fun of how bad a gift of tube socks are. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 20:45, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

::Its probobly just making fun of how bad a gift socks in general are, they just chose tube socks because it was the first thing they tought of (probobly). [[User:Xifihas|Xifihas]] 21:08, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== Local gentry ==

"The local gentry" has to be a reference to the song "Love and Marriage." I don't know who wrote the song, but it is most associated with Frank Sinatra. It was also used as the theme to "Married With Children." "Ask the local gentry, and they will say it's elementry."

== reused song? ==

Did anyone notice that Homestar's song had the exact same beat and sound to the bass beat in Strong Bad's laserdisc song from [[lady...ing]]? [[User:KKyuubi|KKyuubi]] 21:10, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar's Halloween Costume Question ==

This is yet another instance of Homestar's traditional question "So ____, I like your _____ costume!"

Talk:Let us give TANKS!

2006-11-24T10:16:41Z

Zonis: /**/Green Helmets

==Lil Steiny?==
I thought Lil' Steiny was a reference to [[superhero name]]... --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 23:44, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
:No, in an email, it's pronounced, "Stiny." [[User:The Valentine Bros.|The Valentine Bros.]]
::This is actually a double reference to [[Stiny]] and [[Wikipedia:Steinway & Sons|Steinway & Sons]]. It's not a particular reference to "superhero name" because Stiny was yelled at in more than one email (see Stiny's article). —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Though, now that I think about it, the only use of Li'l Stiny came from superhero names. A reword is possible. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I assumed it was a ref to [[Thy Dungeonman 3]], where Thy Dungeonman's mug was referred to as "Steiny". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::That's a similar joke, but it derives from a completely different kind of "stein", so it's not really a reference here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

==About the "Gun-haver" thing==
Listen...everybody and their dog seems to think that "Gunhaver! You actually Have A GUN!" is a reference about Gunhaver's never really been seen with a gun...uh...HELLO? HIS FREAKIN NAME IS
'''"Gun"-"Haver"'''...DUH! {{User:Strong Devon/sig}}
:But he hasn't ever been SEEN with a gun, which is the irony. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:30, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::You forgot the "duh", BJ. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

== Fourth Wall? ==

"The Blue Laser Commander's comment about Reinforcements' camera pretends to break the Fourth Wall." While this may be partly true, the joke (to me) was the fact it explained that Gunhaver could see into the Thanksgiving dinner somehow. Many shows have villans/heroes that somehow bring up a location on a screen with no explanation as of how they are seeing it. [[User:76.212.89.130|76.212.89.130]] 04:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:I think you're right. In fact, TBC made mention of this joke several times on the DVD commentary for the other Cheat Commandos toons. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:50, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

== Real-world reference? ==

The "make a milkshake from this food" easter-egg is a reference to the "will it blend" video blog, which has shown how to make disgusting milkshakes such as "cochicken" (http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=cochicken) and most recently the "thanksgiving dinner" (http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=thanksgiving).
* Hah, I thought the exact same thing when I was watching it! --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
**blent marbles. yum. that is seriously funny. {{User:Csours/sig}} 22:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

== Lime ==

It says the goof is fixed. I just watched it, and it's not fixed. I updated the wiki, and it got reverted, saying that it is fixed. I just watched it again after that, and it's not fixed. I don't want to edit it again, because it will just get reverted. --[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 17:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
: Clear your cache. It was fixed very quickly, if indeed it was ever there at all (I never saw it). --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::I've cleared my cache. It stays the same. Are you sure it's fixed? --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 21:14, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:::It's certainly fixed on my compy. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::It ''is'' fixed. And I put a link to an unfixed version down in the external links. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:23, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::It's not fixed. Someone tell me how it could be fixed when the latest version on the site and HRWiki's mirror version give the same hash. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 10:40, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::It's fixed in both versions. Dot com accidentally mirrored the fixed toon. I'll take the link out until the correct one is mirrored. Dot com, if you haven't got the old version anymore, I've got it.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 10:54, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::[http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8494/thelimehp3.png This frame] is still there. This is the only version of the toon I've seen, so the goof seemed to still be present. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 11:02, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::So it is... Frame 1703, for those who don't know where to look. After you being so insistent, I finally stepped through it frame by frame instead of just dragging the seekbar, and there it was. Identical to the version I downloaded within about 30 minutes of the first mention of the toon at the wiki. Embarrassing. How did we suddenly not see it anymore? Anyways, sorry guys! ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Is step-by-step possible with the Greasemonkey script? I had to take pot luck with Pause for the above screenshot. {{User:Blendage/sig}} 12:30, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::The vaguely arrow-looking buttons next to the seek bar ("|<" and ">|") step through frame by frame. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:44, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Is it possible that TBC just changed the Flash file so that it just skips that frame on an ordinary play-through? Because when watching the toon from beginning to end, I do not see that frame, but when I go frame by frame or rewind to that scene and watch it alone, I ''do'' see that frame. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::No, I just watched it without touching the seekbar, and it's still there.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 16:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Loafing, I have it on [[:Image:NoGoof.PNG|frame 1703]] in FireFox. In the version on the site, Crackotage's arm is still raised. I also looked at Dot com's yesterday, and Crackotage lowered his arm. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::PS. And I don't see it when just watching the toon straight either. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Just cleared my cache and checked again, and the arm ''definitely'' lowers. Crazy thought: Maybe TBC thought that Crackotage's arm ''should'' have lowered and changed the toon to make this the case? {{User:Blendage/sig}} 18:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Jay, of course I had cleared my cache when I went through all those steps last night. And now I've cleared my cache again (and waited for about a minute until the toon was downloaded again), and the goof is still there. It's possible that we use a different version of the seekbar, giving us different frame numbers. Have stepped through it to see if the bug occurs in a different frame in the vincinity of 1703?{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Yes - frame 1704 is of the Blue Laser Commander. I've also checked this in two different browsers (one of which does not have the seek bar.) And, as I said, I tested Dot com's version, where the arm DOES lower. This Goof is fixed. That's all I can see. Look, to get by Blendage's theory, I'll clear MY OWN cache and tell you what happens. UPDATE: Exactly what I expected. Nothing happened. Still fixed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:18, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Teh weird!{{User:Loafing/sig}} 22:01, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::First of all, it's Tom's file, not mine. All I did was post the link. Second, I loaded both the official H*R version and the mirror on this computer (which hasn't been online since last weekend) and cued them both to frame 1703 in separate tabs. The H*R version has the arm supporting the lime; in the mirror version, the lime is floating. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::Well, it's now miraculously fixed for me as well. Even though I did clear my cache Xty times before and the bug was still there. Maybe I should get some third-party "cache-ex" or something :-/{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::I think Flash might maintain its own memory cache... sometimes you have to clear the cache and then restart the browser for stuff to update. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:48, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::::::I'm wondering if it could be being cached somewhere upstream of any given user's local machine, like at the ISP; that would explain how computers that had never loaded it could still see an old version. I decompiled the H*R version and the mirror version. Besides being different file sizes with different numbers of shapes, the difference between 1702 and 1703 in the mirror is ''three'' shapes (the mouth, the arm, and the candle flame), but in the H*R version it's just ''two'' (the mouth and the candle flame). I've loaded it in at least three browsers and have gotten the same result every time; I'm therefore re-updating the page to fixed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:15, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

== X-Men reference ==

blue laser commander calling Gunhaver Charles reminded me of the X Men series, ei, Professor X's name is Charles Xavier, and Magneto calls him that instead of Professor X. But im not sure how to say that succinctly for a fun fact.{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:I can sum it up in one word for you: coincidence. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:21, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::um, let me lay it out for you: bad guy calls good guy by his first name. does anyone know of any other good guy named Charles, besides Charles Xavier that would be called by his first name by a bad guy?{{User:Csours/sig}} 22:27, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I get the connection. Maybe a DVD commentary will prove you right someday. But for now, we can't put a fun fact up based on that kind of conjecture. There's just not enough to go on to justify the speculation. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
::::meh. but its MY conjecture. {{User:Csours/sig}} 18:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

==Crackotage Goof on IE==

On IE, the scene cuts right as Crackotage moves his arm the second time, so it looks more like a cut before the lime falls. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 21:17, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
:What do you mean, on IE? Are yu saying they're delivering different content to IE users than to Firefox or Opera users? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

== Green Helmets ==

I believe the word that the person who put the reference in is looking for is "Cannon Fodder".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannon_fodder --[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 10:16, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Talk:4 branches

2006-11-14T17:46:52Z

Zonis: /**/Mongolian

== Homestar Water Container ==

Does anyone want to have some fun and guess how Homestar got in there.I think... hmm what do I think umm I don't know what I think never mind.
{{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 06:17, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:Chuck Norris - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 06:32, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:Well, he was in Barbados, hanging a picture on the wall... -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:32, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
::Naturally he met a witch doctor who asked him where he spends most of his time, and he said in the water cooler...
Or even better, take this to the [[Forum:10200|forum thrad]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:Anyone have any idea what Barbados has to do with a water cooler? Very odd. I feel like there HAS to be a joke there that I'm not getting. I mean why does that one partial sentence tell SB all he needs to know?? Is this a movie reference maybe?
::I think it's just completely random. SB knew that Homestar was about to tell him some completely untrue and nonsensical story, so he stopped him right there... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 11:53, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

== Old-Timey Nebulon? ==

Think this alien could be the Old-Timey Nebulon? Could be!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 07:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:Well, The Homestar Runner doesn't like his style...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:33, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
::True, but i expected that 1936 Nebulon would be green (in the easter egg, he's gray) and to be shaped more like him. --[[User:Young Roy|Y. Roy]] 13:00, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:I think it's possible; I did kind of think about Nebulon (the whole "Because you're a communist fool!" thing seems a bit similar to the "Nobody likes your style!" thing), but I don't think there's quite enough resemblance other than that to say he's ''definitely'' supposed to be 1936'd Nebs. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 13:27, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:It's not much of a stretch to see that as Neb. But "our" Neb has two eyes and doesn't talk... Not to mention no arms or discernible legs. I'm still going with that being Neb, however. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 14:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

== Stretch in Real World References ==

"The Homestar fireworks at the end of the cartoon is a direct sendup from Super Mario Brothers 1 for the Nintendo Entertainment System; you recieved fireworks when you did very well on a level."

Highly unlikely. For one, you got that at the end if you finished at a certain time. Second, lots of things have fireworks at the end. I don't see how this is a referance to SMB more than, say, a political cartoon in which fireworks appear as a patriotical symbol.

:I completely agree and removed the fact. Anyone who thinks differently may STUFF it. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:01, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

== Coulomb's law ==

...and I thought that I was going to go the rest of my life without ever hearing Coulomb's law again. Oh well. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 11:04, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

:That's makes two of us... {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

::On my [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish#Pre-Calc_101|talk page]] we already talked about the horrors of Calc, now I have to relive physics again. I never really understood what a Gausian Surface was, but I got the problems correct on the test somehow. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:52, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

== TTATOT Oprah ==

When homestar started talking about makeovers, did anyone else think that he sounded a little like Oprah? I'm enough people will shout TTATOT, so I'm not even going to bother putting it up. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

:Yeah, there are tons of shows like that, once again it's a reference to the whole genre of talk shows, instead of a particular one. Although that chair-throwing is clearly a Jerry Springer, because he is known for his violence. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

::Not just the chair throwing but the whole, let's bring on the bad boyfriend thing, which was obviously JS. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:59, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

== AM ==

When the show comes on, there is a semi circle. I am certain that it is very close to a 1980's logo for either Good Morning America or a similiar show. Can anyone find it? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:58, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:Nevermind, I found it, it was the old Today show logo. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:55, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

== Transcript ==

I'm pretty sure that Homestar says "sweet Jesus" after SB tries to get him out of the water cooler, not "sweet genius". [[User:Zero.exe|Zero.exe]] 15:18, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I am certain he said genius. Living the Atlanta, TBC have (very wisely IMO), never overtly made light of religion, and I listened a second time, just to me sure.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 15:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
== Old KOT? ==

The king of town's crown looked like it was in the King of town DVD.

==Match Game PM==

Could The Show AM be a reference to Match Game PM? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

== Mongolian ==

This is another reference to a Mongolian Product, such as the Finest Mongolian Aftershave Lotion.--[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 17:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Fan Costumes '06

2006-11-06T18:09:22Z

Zonis: Mushrooms

==TGS-esque Voices?==
This might just be me, but the teen kid and gravely mum/mom voices sound a bit like characters from Teen Girl Squad. Do you think they did voices like that on purpose? Because the Mom sounds sorta like The Ugly One, or one of the other members of the Squad. --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 09:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Both TGS and the commentary were done by Strong Bad, so they are bound to sound similar.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:43, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I was thinking that the teenage boy voice sounded like teenage Strong Bad from [[highschool]]. I don't think they're intentional references though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::But there is a chance that TBC chose that style of voices for it. (Croaky, high Stongbad voices) Is that qulaification for a fact or is it too much of a stretch? --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 09:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:::My interpretation is that Strong Bad was choosing from his repertoire of croaky voices to make fun of the guy in the picture, not necessarily trying to draw reference to the TGSers. (I may be wrong though.) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

== Transcript Uncertainties ==

There were a couple lines in the transcript that I wasn't sure about:
<blockquote>
'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes. Thank you. Tonight.
</blockquote>
Could this be "Good night"?
<blockquote>
'''STRONG BAD:''' What's this guy smilin' about? {in a mocking voice} Oh, yeah. I just got promoted to the three-foot-wide cubicle. Now I can fit four to three post-its on my wall. Hey Doogen, you stayin' after tonight for the LAN party?
</blockquote>
I'm really not sure about these, especially the Local Area Network party... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:56, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I'd say that It 's more likely to be goodnight. But I think the LAN party thing shows up SB's lack of computer knowlege, rather than a mistranscribe. --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 09:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, "Good night." makes more sense contextually...I just had trouble hearing the "g" sound. Go ahead and change it if you're confident in what you hear. :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 10:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:I think the first one is probably "Tonight". He said it a lot in local news, and that's what it sounds like to me. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Drat, it can work both ways. --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 10:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
::It's "tonight" from [[local news]]. It's a hard reference.
<blockquote>'''STRONG BAD:''' Good evening and tonight. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Yes, well, thank you, tonight. 
 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{commentary}'' ...So, if you're a news...carster...you gotta...you gotta say "tonight" as much as possible. 
'''MIKE:''' Mmhmm. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' That's what I learned. 
'''MIKE:''' Well, you say it a lot in this email. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, you're supposed to. Because you have to remind people, or they'll think it's the afternoon news, and they'll turn it off. Nobody wants to watch that crap. 
'''MIKE:''' No, just the evening news. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah. Evening— 
'''MIKE:''' "Tonight." 
'''STRONG BAD:''' Tonight. The tonight news. We should have called it that. 
 
''{simultaneously, after newscaster Strong Bad says "Yes. Well, thank you. Tonight."}'' 
'''MIKE:''' There, he said... There, he did... So, Bubs... Bubs is... 
'''STRONG BAD:''' See? Because, see, someone was about to change the channel, they'd be like, "Oh, this is the—this is noonday. I don't want to watch noonday." Oh! Yeah... 
 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{After newscaster Strong Bad says "tonight" again}'' ...See? Once again, that was, like, five more viewers— 
'''MIKE:''' That doesn't even make any sense. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{laughs}'' What do you mean? 
'''MIKE:''' I mean, you're just saying "tonight." 
'''STRONG BAD:''' I s—I kept reiterating that it is tonight! 
'''MIKE:''' And you never told us what the World in Crisis was about. 
'''STRONG BAD:''' That's to get you to come back tomorrow night and watch.</blockquote>
::—[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:34, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Doogen sounds like a good enough guess to me. It's probably his last name. LAN party, definitely. Geeky people at the office have LAN parties. Just like me and people from my workplace. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 15:37, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

== Mario and the KOT ==

I put this fun fact in, but I'll admit it's a bit of a stretch:
*The Mario costume in the background of one of the pictures may be a reference to the King of Town, who dressed up as Mario in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
What do you guys think? Keep, or is it too far a stretch?
*The Al Roker losing a lot of weight in regards to Strong Sad also is too much of a stretch. It's just a skinnier guy dressed up as SS, just like the above is just a guy dressed as Mario standing next to a guy dressed like HSR.
:We don't note references that are made by other people as references. TBC didn't make a Mario reference, the submitter of the photo did. So I say it's unnotable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
== Not Necessarily ==

To me, it sounds like Homestar is saying "Not necessary", which would make more sense in the context. --[[User:Color Printer|Color]] [[User talk:Color Printer|Printer]] 14:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

:"Necessarily" makes perfect sense. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

== Missing Picture ==

Has anyone noticed that when you scroll your mouse over the fan costumes '06 button in the holiday section you see a picture of a Homestar costume in the preview box and it's not in the cartoon.[[User:Flamer8965|Flamer8965]] 14:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

== Quake? ==

Is it just me or is it really the Quake logo on strong bads mask on pic 13? [[User:Cyberdemon]] 7:03am, 7 Nov 2006

== Mushrooms ==

Homestar saying that Luigi tasted like Mushrooms is a reference to the Mushroom Powerups and overall mushroominess of all the Mario games.

retirement B

2006-10-03T15:23:45Z

Zonis: /* Goofs */

{{sbenav|159b|retirement A|some kinda robot}}
[[Image:sbemail159b.png|thumb|"Oh! Automatic hole-formatting."]]
Strong Bad continues from [[retirement A]], checking an email on the [[Compy 386]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Marzipan}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|The Cheat}}, {{film|Strong Mad}}, [[Female_Lappy_486]], [[The Paper]]

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Carnival Tent]], [[The Field]]

{{Comp|Compy 386}}, [[Lappy 486]] [[Category: Lappy 486 Emails]]

'''Date:''' October 3, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 2:48

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
''{Strong Bad is in front of the Compy. Despite the hole, he manages to type "strongbad_email.exe".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' There's a big ol' hole inside my email, makin' it hard to cheeeeck...

''{He brings up the email. It is formatted around the hole.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooh! Automatic hole formatting! ''{starts reading}''

<blockquote class="compy email">
Dear Strong Bad, 
I want to see you perform some amazing 
feats of 
wonder. 
 
Very ser-                     iously, 
Luke S.
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "Double Dear Strong Bad" in place of the first line, and after reading "wonder", he comments "You mean, more amazing than checking an email on this computer?!" In place of the name, he says "Luke South".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well, I am very serious too. Serious about the most incredible, tantalizing, pants-defying, mind-googling sights in the whole world!! ''{stops typing}'' Lalalalalalaaaa!

''{Cut back to show the whole computer room.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ladies and Luke, I give you...

''{A [[Wikipedia:Boater (hat)|boater hat]] falls on his head and a cane into his hand. The screen pans away to a carnival tent.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as a sideshow caller}'' Strong Bad's Amazing Feats of Wonder! Gawk and squawk as I walk and talk like an old-timey sideshow caller, and add "Lalalalalaa" to the end of everything I say lalalalalalaaa!

''{Cut to inside the tent.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' First, in our gallery of ocular oddities, is a contortionist with a twist!

''{He moves away, revealing a curtain painted with "MARZiPAN - SHE-TYPE! KA-RAZY?"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Feast your Dust Bowl-ravaged eyes on Marzipan, the Human Woo-man ''{rolls the next "R"}'' Rrrrrotini!

''{A logo for "The Human Woo-man Rotini appears, and the curtain lifts, revealing Marzipan with her hair tied up. She curls her neck like a spring. The audience makes amazed sounds.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Behold! An ocean of pesto!

''{Green liquid flies in from offscreen and lands on Marzipan.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's not part of my act!

''{Cut to The King of Town, with some of the green liquid dribbling down from his moustache.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' I know! It's a part of ''mine'' lalalalalalalaaa!

''{He sucks in the liquid. Cut back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now, direct your attention to the Pee Wee Stage...

''{Again, Strong Bad moves aside. Now the curtain shows "THE CHEAT - AND HOW! PART ANVIL?"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...where the flea circus has left town, and the inmates are restless!

''{The audience ooohs as the curtain is lifted, showing a manacled The Cheat.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Gather strong at The Cheat's Flea Prison Riot!

''{As the above words appear, a magnifying glass focuses on The Cheat and zooms in on a tiny prison in his hair, where a number of small black dots are rioting and squabbling. The prison has some flames coming out of the windows, and a siren is heard. Cut back to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And lastly, so ghastly, the ate-thh wonder of the world!

''{He again moves aside. The curtain shows "Strong Mad - ATE THH! NECK?"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' House-mouth!!!

''{The curtain lifts, showing Strong Mad in a loincloth. A "HOUSE-MOUTH" logo appears. The audience gasps.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' DAAAAH!! ''{Opens his mouth very wide, taking up most of his body and creating the shape of a house.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{popping in from the side of the screen}'' This land-locked leviathan conveniently subsists only on outdated electronics!

''{He ducks away as the Compy is thrown in Strong Mad's mouth. He closes his mouth. A second later, he jumps a bit as a sparking sound is heard. Strong Mad gulps it down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{popping in again, and throwing his hat and cane}'' ''We did it!!!'' Lalalalalalalaaaa!

''{The screen pans back to the computer room. The Lappy is back.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Lappy! You're back...y! You and I have some unfinished business, little lady!

''{Strong Bad sits down. Cut to the Lappy's screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' There ya go, Jake-ula. Now all the cliffhangers have been for reallysolved. Okay, Lappy, I hope your battery's charged, ''{music starts}'' cuz I'm finally taking you out for those hush-puppies you always wanted!!!

''{He picks up the Lappy and walks off. Cut to a silhouette of Strong Bad holding the Lappy and walking across the sunset. Ghostly images of the Tandy and Compy appear over his head. The music suddenly stops with a record scratch.}''

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' But Strong Bad, I'm hate hush puppies!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Man, I coulda sworn one of you guys liked hush puppies.

''{The Paper comes down, reading "It was me. I like hushpuppies." The music starts again. It eventually stops again with a record scratch.}''

'''FEMALE LAPPY 486:''' Can we please find my toe?

''{Strong Bad stops walking and looks up toward the ghostly images, which speed away.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Computers in harmony.png|thumb|At peace at last]]
*When Strong Bad says "Luke South", click on the Compy's exposed gear to see a southward traffic sign.
*At the end, before the old computers fly away, click their contrast knobs for the [[Bad Graphics Ghost]] and a dancing skeleton.

{{clear}}

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*Structures or people are called the [[Wikipedia:Eighth Wonder of the World|Eighth Wonder of the World]] in order to liken their perceived greatness to the [[Wikipedia:Seven Wonders of the World|Seven Wonders of the Ancient World]].

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad has no problem typing commas on the Lappy, despite its missing "toe".
*As in [[retirement A]], The Paper doesn't have a link to Strong Bad's email address.
*The contrast dial on the Compy does not work during the intro.
*This email uses the Compy's loading screen.
*The hole in the Compy is smaller here than it was at the end of [[virus]], making it possible to fit a token amount of legible text onto the screen.

===Goofs===
*The hyphen in "ser-iously" is overlapping the hole a little.
*The Lappy's "toe" is removed when Strong Bad gets it back, even though it was present in retirement A.
*Despite the Lappy's "little toe", the [< ,] key, clearly missing, Strong bad is still able to type commas.

===Inside References===
*This email follows from [[cliffhangers]] and [[retirement A]]. In fact, Strong Bad's closing remarks are directed toward Jake, who sent cliffhangers.
*Marzipan had short hair because in [[keep cool]] part of her hair was burned and turned green by the chemicals in Strong Bad's pool, although her hair is yellow in this e-mail.
*The Cheat was previously compared with an anvil in [[huttah!]]
*The skeleton image on the Compy's computer is from [[Peasant's Quest]].
*Marzipan's curtain contains another case of [[Lowercase i's]].
*The ghost image on the Tandy is from the e-mail [[ghosts]]

===Real World References===
*The [[Wikipedia:Dust Bowl|Dust Bowl]] was a series of dust storms caused by poor farming techniques that ravaged the midwestern United States from 1934 to 1939. Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced.
*Referring to Strong Mad as the Eighth Wonder of the world could be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Andr%C3%A9 the Giant|André the Giant]], a professional wrestler who was sometimes called by that name.

==External Links==
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{{Strong Bad Email}}

cliffhangers

2006-09-23T23:11:43Z

Zonis: /* Inside References */

{{sbenav|158|trading cards|some kinda robot}}
[[Image:sbemail158.png|thumb|"Prepare to be resolved!"]]
Strong Bad resolves three cliffhangers, and is then confronted by "sweet lady irony."

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Bubs}}/[[The Thnikkaman]], {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Cliffs|A Cliff]], [[Coach Z's Locker Room]], Inside [[The Proud Anselmo]], [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] (Easter egg), [[The Office]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' September 18, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:21

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Oooh, it's a e-email, money, money, money. Oooh-ooh. Shut up. ''{brings up email}''
<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: cliffhangers</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
Resolve all the cliffhangers please. 
 
Thanks, 
Jake
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad reads "Jake" as "Little Jakey Pleasenthanks".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Hmmmmm. The cliffhangers, eh? I never really thought to call them that, but I guess that ''is'' what they are. Yeah, Why not? ''{gets up, accompanied by the geddup noise}''

''{Cut to a face of a cliff. Homsar and the King of Town are both hanging from separate ropes, which are attached to the top of the cliff.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' This dinner party is top dollar!

''{Strong Bad is seen walking up to the edge of the cliff. Zoom in on him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Alright, cliffhangers. Prepare to be resolved!

''{Strong Bad takes out a knife and slices both the ropes, causing the King of Town and Homsar to fall out of the shot.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, and I brought you some snacks.

''{Strong Bad tosses some paper bags labeled "Hom" and "Kot" down the cliff.}''

'''KING OF TOWN:''' ''{echoing}'' You're a good friend, Strong Bad!

''{Strong Bad leaves. Cut back to Strong Bad's computer room. Strong Bad sits back down, and the screen has already been cleared.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Alright, alright. I know what you really mean, Jakesy. So, you say you want a resolution, huh?

''{Static away to the words "Cliffhanger #1" on a dark grey screen. Then, cut to the Locker Room. The Thnikkaman is crammed into a locker, bound with ropes. Coach Z is facing him.}''

'''COACH Z:''' And now, Thnikkaman, at long last, the world will discover your secret, sorcret identity!

''{Cut to a closeup of Coach Z's face.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Thereby rendering you useless as a Thnikkaman!

''{Cut back to the original view of the locker room.}''

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' I'll render you ''toothless''!

'''COACH Z:''' Now, give me them cool shades!

''{Coach Z swipes at the Thnikkaman's "cool shades". Just as he's about to take them off, the frame freezes. Coach Z's arm is blurred. Zoom in, and play the "dun, dun, duuun" sound effect. The screen fades, and "Resolution" appears over the top in yellow text. This goes away, and we return to the scene—Coach Z misses the glasses and falls on his face.}''

'''THNIKKAMAN:''' Yeah, shut up, Coach.

''{The Thnikkaman jumps out of the locker on top of Coach Z, and walks off the left of screen. The usual singers chime in, the words flying across the screen.}''

'''SINGERS:''' You missed unmasking the Thnikkaman!!! ''{slight pause}'' Because you have really bad hand-eye coordination!!!

'''COACH Z:''' Enough already, I get it! My secret sorcret has been revereled.

''{The words "Cliffhanger #2" appear. Cut to Strong Bad in his Space Captainface outfit inside a cardboard spaceship, talking on a cardboard cell phone, with a little paper umbrella as an antenna.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah I ''know'', Lita Ford... but I'm in orbit, baby! Look, I'll call you back when I'm not—

''{Cut to The Cheat, dressed as Strap, who plays an alarm sound effect on the CD player, and turns a lamp with a red bulb on and off.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strap! Collision alarm! Bring it up on screen.

''{Strong Mad takes away the piece of cardboard representing the screen, revealing a circular silhouette hanging from a piece of string, and holds up a sign reading "Malmsteen's Comet".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' We're on a collision course with Malmsteen's Comet! Full power to the forward humbuckers!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{anxious The Cheat noises}''

''{The Cheat points to a screen drawn on the cardboard that reads "The forward humbuckers have never worked!".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Humbuckers are offline? Then strap in, Strap, and prepare for ramming speed! If this is the end, then we can at least make it awesome for the people in...

''{Strong Bad looks out a side window labelled "the view" at a desktop globe of the Earth.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...Greenland.

''{The Cheat plays a rockets firing sound on the CD player, and the ship starts shaking.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooohhhh... Shooooooo....

''{Everything freezes, and the same "dun, dun, duuun" sound effect plays.}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Will Cap and Strap make it out of this one?

''{Cut to the silhouetted comet, with a question mark overlaid, Strong Mad holds up a sign reading "Tune in NEXTime...".}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Tune in next—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Nope, none of that, just get to resolving.

'''ANNOUNCER:''' Okay!

''{Up comes the "Resolution" screen, then cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat holding on to each other as the ship shakes around them.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' This is it, Strap!

''{The shaking stops, the rocket sound dies away, and the "comet" comes out of the silhouette, revealing it to actally be a moldy cantaloupe, with the label "grodalated cantaloupe".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wait a minute... that's no comet! We've wandered into the Forgotten Produce belt of Tablature 5!

''{The cantaloupe is joined by a bunch of overripe bananas and an overripe avocado.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's guacamole and banana bread time, Strap!

''{Some upbeat music plays, and Strong Bad and The Cheat dance to it. "Cliffhanger #3". Strong Sad and Homestar are standing around a table.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Look, you can tell me.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I can't!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, come on, what is it?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm... pregnant!

''{Slow zoom in on Homestar, "dun, dun, duuun". Up comes the "Resolution" screen.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' No... no, you're Homestar. Runner. ''The male''.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oohhhh, phew. Thought I was a pregnant woman for a second there.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Yeah... uh... I think I'd like my money back now.

''{Cut through static to Strong Bad walking back to the computer desk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And there you go, Jakenstein. All the cliffhangers have been re— Aah!

''{The Lappy isn't on the desk; it has been replaced by a ransom note, which reads "i got your Lappy", and has a red-splattered comma key from the keyboard.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' My computer's been Lappy-napped! And they cut off her little toe! ''{falls to his knees}'' Oh, sweet lady irony! Why do you mock me?

''{"Dun, dun, duuun". [[The Paper]] comes down, reading "Tune in next time for the cliff hanging conclusion!!"}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on Jake to see a book called "[[Little Jakey Pleasenthanks]]" by [[Crazy Prof. Sportsinterviews]].

*Click on the power plug at the end to see a scene with Coach Z and Bubs at the concession stand:
:'''COACH Z:''' Nah, I bet if you take away them cool shades and rip that "TH" ''{pronounced as the "th" in "three"}'' off his chest, underneath, you'd find a thin green man with a big ol' "Z" hanging from his—
:'''BUBS:''' ''{glares at Coach Z}'' Coach, are you accusing ''yourself'' of being the Thnikkaman?!
:'''COACH Z:''' Yeah, I, uh— no! I, wuh, da, rumble-dumble sports team?!
*Click on the ransom note at the end to see an extra scene in the office with Homestar and Strong Bad.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, yeah, you know who I think done it? Homestar Runner, think about it, think about it. He's got the history, he's got the motive...
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Homestar, are you admitting that you stole my computer?
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What? No! I was just making watercooler conversation, trying to sound up with the times, uh, um, sports team? ''{Strong Bad looks down, dejected}''


== Fun Facts ==
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=== Explanations ===
*An actual [[Wikipedia:Cliffhanger|cliffhanger]] is a plot device where the end of a movie or TV show sees the story come to an end quite abruptly, without resolving some key issues, so that if the viewer wants to know how the story ends, they will have to tune in to the next episode, or watch the next movie.
*A [[Wikipedia:Humbucker|humbucker]] is a type of guitar pick-up that uses two coils.
*[[Wikipedia:Tablature|Tablature]] is a specialized type of sheet music for stringed instruments, such as guitar.
* Homestar's line "I'm Pregnant" with a close up is a spoof of stereotypical [[Wikipedia:Soap Opera|soap operas]] in which an episode would end with such a cliffhanger.

=== Trivia ===
*This e-mail was sent by wiki user [[User:Cessna Man!|Cessna Man!]].
*The floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#cake_walk|cake walk]]".
*Below "the view" in the cardboard spaceship, there is a switch. Both positions of the switch are labelled "off".
*Homestar's and Strong Bad's shirts in the Easter egg read "Just Disks" and "Data Boys" respectively.

=== Remarks ===
*The Thnikkaman already took his shades off in [[monument]] without his secret identity being revealed.

=== Goofs ===
* Strong Bad unnecessarily capitalized "Why" in "Yeah, Why not?"

=== Glitches ===
[[Image:Cliffhangergoof.png|thumb|125px|Strap in, Strap!]]
*During most of the cardboard spaceship scene, the green ground is slightly cut off on the left side of the screen, so that a strip of white is visible along the black edge of the frame.

=== Inside References ===
*Strong Bad first appeared as [[Space Captainface]] in [[space program]].
*When The Thnikkaman waddles away, he makes Homsar's [[Sound Effects|walking noise]].
*The sticker on the cantaloupe says "grodalated", a word that first appeared in [[bedtime story]].
*This email marks another spoken reference to "[[Cool Shades]]."
*Strong Bad wields a [[Big Knives|Big Knife]] in this email.
*A cantaloupe also appears as [[Doreauxgard]] in [[lackey]].
*Strong Sad's stressing of Homestar's first and last name separately is similar to Homestar's introduction in his [[Homestar Runner#Character Video Transcript|character video]].
*This is the second time Strong Bad has anthropomorphized an abstract concept as a "sweet lady", the first being "sweet lady freedom" in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].
*The announcer in the Space Captainface cliffhanger was first heard in the email [[fingers]].
*Strongbad and Homestar are wearing the free polo shirts they got from various software companies, as they did in [[other days]].

=== Real-World References ===
* Malmsteen's Comet is a reference to Swedish guitar player [[Wikipedia:Yngwie J. Malmsteen|Yngwie Malmsteen]] and [[Wikipedia:Ace Frehley|Ace Frehley]], lead guitarist for Kiss, and his solo album ''Frehley's Comet''.
*The bloody comma key on the ransom note that Strong Bad calls a "little toe" refers to the movie [[The Big Lebowski]], in which a ransom note appears for a kidnapped woman along with a severed little toe.
* The cover of Little Jakey Pleasenthanks (by Crazy Prof. Sportsinterviews) is drawn in the style of [[Wikipedia:Dr. Seuss|Dr. Seuss]].
*"So you say you want a resolution, huh?" is a reference to the famous opening line "You say you want a revolution" from the song "[[Wikipedia:Revolution (song)|Revolution]]" by the [[Wikipedia:Beatles|Beatles]].
* The left-hand "screen" picture in the cardboard spaceship and center "eye" when Space Captainface is on screen are from [[Wikipedia:2001: A Space Odyssey (film)|2001: A Space Odyssey]].
* [[Wikipedia:Lita Ford|Lita Ford]] is a female glam metal rocker who became popular in the 80's.
* The Announcer in the second cliffhanger, also heard in [[fingers]] and [[alternate universe]], is a reference to the original [[Wikipedia:Batman (TV series)|Batman TV series]].
* The "Y" in the word "Lappy" of the ransom note is similar to that of the [[Wikipedia:Image:Ymca-logo.gif|YMCA logo]].
* Homestar's purple polo shirt in the Easter Egg is reminiscent of the character "The Jesus" in the Big Lebowski played by [[Wikipedia:John Turturro|John Turturro]].
* [[Wikipedia:Greenland|Greenland]] is a very large and sparsely populated island in northern North America, almost completely covered in ice. It is officially a dependent territory of [[Wikipedia:Denmark|Denmark]], but also has an autonomous government.

== External Links ==
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{{Strong Bad Email}}

Nicknames

2006-09-08T17:47:03Z

Zonis: /* Homestar Runner */

{{cleanup}}
[[Image:Wretchedsimmons.png|thumb|"Get it out of here, Wretched Simmons!"]]
Most [[Characters|characters]] in the [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]] universe have been assigned a variety of '''nicknames''' by other characters, usually by [[Strong Bad]]. Strong Bad also gives nicknames to [[Strong Bad Email By Name of Sender|those who send him emails]].

==Main Characters==
===[[Homestar Runner]]===
'''Big Toons'''
*The big fat yellow blob (Strong Bad, [[Strongest Man in the World]])
*The me (Homestar, [[Strongest Man in the World]])
*My Dog (Bubs, [[A Folky Tale]])
*McDorkle (Strong Bad, [[Bug In Mouth Disease]])
*Humphel (Coach Z, [[A Jorb Well Done]])
*Homestar von Runnerberger (Strong Bad, [[In Search of the Yello Dello Commentary]])
*Mr. Prancy-time (Strong Bad, [[The King of Town DVD]])

'''Shorts'''
*Desire Man (Strong Sad, [[Sbemail 150?!?]])
*Dumbstar (Strong Bad, [[The Interview]])

'''Holiday Toons'''
*The old captain of the team (Homestar, [[Homestar Presents: Presents]])
*A real state trooper (Homsar, [[Homestar Presents: Presents]])
*Homestarchu ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])
*Homestar Riggidy Riggidy Runner ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])

'''Puppet Stuff'''
*homeslice ([[Puppet Jam]])
*weirdon (Puppet Strong Bad, [[Real-Live E-Mails]])
*weirdo (Puppet Strong Bad, original audio for Real-Live E-Mails)

'''Strong Bad Emails'''
*Officer Cheese-for-butt (Strong Bad, [[road trip]])
*Homestar Bunmaker (Homestar, [[disconnected]])
*Old 'Strammy (Coach Z, [[disconnected]])
*Wretched Simmons (Strong Bad, [[lady fan]])
*Mr. Dee Williams (Bubs, [[secret identity]])
*Kevin (Announcer, [[geddup noise]])
*Hal (Marzipan, [[time capsule]] DVD commentary)
*Meatball Face Butt (Strong Bad, [[dangeresque 3]])
*Baldy (Strong Bad, [[haircut]])
*Duckie-man (The Prince of Town, [[flashback]])
*Duckshirt (Strong Bad, [[flashback]])
*Prancibald (Strong Bad, [[flashback]])
*Whitey (Doreauxgard, [[lackey]])
*Kevin DuBrow (Homestar, [[the bet]])
*edgardo (Strong Bad, [[Strumstar Hammer]] Easter egg in [[kids' book]])
*Dumpface (Strong Bad, [[island]])
*Stupid (Strong Bad, [[halloweener]])

'''Marzipan's Answering Machine'''
*[[Wikipedia: Ghostface Killah|Goatface Killa]] (Homestar, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2]])
*Boyfriend Dan (Homestar, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2]])
*The H-star, the H-star-R (Homestar, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2]])
*Sugar-face (Homestar, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]])
*Strong Bad (Homestar, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]])
*Batman (Homestar, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]])
*Dead Guy Perez, alternately known as the DPG (Homestar, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]])

'''Other'''
*A Big Moron Who Can't Remember His Lines (Strong Bad, [[First Time Here?]])
*Doofus (Strong Bad, [[Homestar_Runner#Character_Video_Transcript| Homestar's character page]])
*Moron (Strong Bad, [[Homestar_Runner#Character_Video_Transcript| Homestar's character page]])
*[[Wikipedia:Lionel Richie|Lionel Richie]] (Strong Bad, [[Homestar_Runner#Character_Video_Transcript| Homestar's character page]])
*Homesar (John Flansburgh, [[TMBG Concert - 25 Sep 2004]])

===[[Strong Bad]]===
'''Big Toons'''
*Strong Caleb (Strong Bad imitating Tucksworth, [[Bug In Mouth Disease]])
*Grandma (Strong Bad, [[Bug in Mouth Disease]])
*Prisoner Number 5408 (Strong Sad, [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]])
*Professor Tor Coolguy (Strong Sad and Strong Bad, [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]])

'''Shorts'''
*Cool Guy (Homestar, [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]])
*Stong Bah (Homestar, [[Arcade Game]])

'''Powered By The Cheat'''
*B-hand (Powered by the Cheat Homestar, [[mile]])

'''Holiday Toons'''
*Strong-o Bad-o (Homestar, [[Homestar Presents: Presents]])
*Miss America (Senor Cardgage, [[Senorial Day]])
*Strong Badchu ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])

'''Puppet Stuff'''
*My Homie (Puppet Homestar, [[Biz Cas Fri 3]])
*Rondo (Puppet Homestar, [[Biz Cas Fri 2]])
*Rondleman (Puppet Homestar, [[Biz Cas Fri 1]])
*My D-O-G-E (Puppet Homestar, [[Biz Cas Fri 1]])
*My Dog (Puppet Homestar, [[Biz Cas Fri 1]])

'''Strong Bad Emails'''
*Backseat Bradley (Homestar, [[road trip]])
*I've actually lost two pounds in the last nine months, thank you very much Bad (Strong Bad [[road trip]])
*Fatty bad (That guy, from that place, [[road trip]])
*Super Bad (emailer Jonathan Shaheen, [[theme song]])
*Myrtlebeth (Senor Cardgage, [[alternate universe]])
*Big Nose (Stinkoman, [[alternate universe]])
*Eggman (Homestar, [[disconnected]])
*Strong Body (Bubs, [[disconnected]])
*Head Bad (Coach Z, [[disconnected]])
*Senor Muybueno (Strong Bad, [[pop-up]])
*Tip Tappers: Expensive Briefcase Carrier (Strong Bad, [[secret identity]])
*Vance (Daddy) Mudgeman (Strong Bad, [[secret identity]])
*Cara Carabowditbowdit (Strong Bad, [[secret identity]])
*Strongio da Baddio (Strong Bad, [[portrait]])
*First Lieuteneral Captainface (SBASAF Orientation Film Speaker, [[space program]])
*Space Captainface (SBASAF Orientation Film Speaker, [[space program]])
*Strongest of the Bads (emailers Lorenzo and Fillbert, [[lady...ing]])
*Strong Bad The Good Dancer (Strong Bad, [[bottom 10]])
*Weak Bad (the sender of the email in [[bottom 10]])
*Sed Bed (Strong Bad, [[do over]])
*Ong-stray ad-bay (emailer Peter, [[rampage]])
*Chester Elegante (Strong Bad, [[dreamail]])
*Senator (Strong Sad, [[radio]])
*S to the B (emailer Justin Corcoran, [[extra plug]])
*Silne Zle (Strong Bad, [[other days]])
*Elizagerth (Senor Cardgage, [[flashback]])
*No-shirt (Strong Bad, [[flashback]])
*Ethel (Senor Cardgage, [[kind of cool]])
*Mr. Supreme (Strong Bad, [[Strumstar Hammer]] Easter egg in [[kids' book]])
*Double A, All Abs (Strong Bad, [[suntan]])
*Reggie (Homsar, [[interview]])
*[[Stinkoman]] (Homestar, [[island]])
*Buckethand (Homestar, [[new hands]])
*Stark Dålig (Strong Bad, [[little questions]])
*Stong Band (Strong Bad as Monkey D, [[vacation]])
*[[Strong Badman]] (Strong Bad, [[superhero name]])

'''Teen Girl Squad'''
*Sir Hotbod Handsomeface (The Ugly One, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]])

'''Marzipan's Answering Machine'''
*Lorenz Magazine Man (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2]])
*[[Obviously Phony Aliases#Goatface|Goatface]] (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2]])
*Senator Bobblehead (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]])
*Senator Statesbob (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]])
*Bob Statesman (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]])
*Cableman Jorge (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]])
*Sweepstakes Ron (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0]])
*Safety Dan (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]])
*Dr. Professional (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 6.0]])
*Constable Anybody (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]])
*Detective Everybody (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 2.0]])
*Mr. Nobody (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 1.0]])

''' Other'''
*The Bee (Strong Bad, [[Sensitive To Bees]])
*No-brow (Strong Sad, [[Strong Sad's Lament]])

===[[The Cheat]]===
'''General'''
*The Chort (Coach Z, [[Where's The Cheat?]], [[rampage]], [[impression]], [[mascot]], [[crazy cartoon]], [[mile]] (Powered by The Cheat Coach Z))
*DJ Teh Cheat (his DJ name, referenced in [[geddup noise]] and [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2]])

'''Big Toons'''
*That little yellow thing (The King of Town, [[Where's The Cheat?]])

'''Shorts'''
*Strong Mad's Girlfriend (Strong Bad, [[Summer Short Shorts]])
*Cool guy (Homestar, [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]])
*The man with the plan (Strong Bad, [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]])

'''Powered by the Cheat'''
*A [[Striped Green Rabbit]] With Two Butts (Strong Bad, [[New Boots]])
*The man who looks like The Cheat (Singers, [[The Cheat Theme Song]])
*The one with yellow feet (Singers, [[The Cheat Theme Song]])
*The dude that moves to the beat (Singers, [[The Cheat Theme Song]])
*Not the guy from 21 Jump Street (Singers, [[The Cheat Theme Song]])

'''Puppet Stuff'''
*Yellow Man (Homestar, [[Labor Dabor]] and [[Some Puppet Stuff]])

'''Holiday Toons'''
*Philly Cheat-steak (Strong Bad, [[Halloween Fairstival]])
*Cheatachu ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])
*A Nice Hawaiian Cheat ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])

'''Strong Bad Emails'''
*The Cheat Baxter-Birney ("starring", [[theme song]])
*The Cheato Bandito (Strong Bad, [[pop-up]])
*Squeak (Strong Bad, [[narrator]])
*The Cheatbot (Strong Bad, [[technology]])
*a no-talent minion (Strong Bad, [[portrait]])
*4rt b4nd1t (on his shirt, [[portrait]])
*Harold "Strap" Coopmore (SBASAF Orientation Film Voiceover, [[space program]])
*The Strap (Strong Bad, [[space program]])
*Cheat (Homestar, [[secret recipes]])
*The C H E _ T (Strong Bad, [[secret recipes]])
*The Chekt (Strong Bad, [[secret recipes]])
*Captain Past-His-Prime (Strong Bad, [[animal]])
*the ol' Cheatasaurus (Strong Bad, [[other days]])
*The Cheatentina (Strong Bad, [[crying]])
*Ilko Skevüld (fake ID, [[cheatday]])
*Teh C. (The Cheat, [[cheatday]])
*Cheet (Strong Mad, [[lunch special]])
*little yellow squeaky thing (Strong Bad, [[lackey]])
*[[Firebert]] (The Cheat, [[army]])
*That one little guy (Strong Bad, [[army]])
*yellow dog (Homestar, [[army]])
*The Friggin' Cheat (The Cheat, [[local news]])
*Squeaky (Motivational poster, [[no loafing]])
*Slowbie (Strong Bad, [[2 years]])
*Cheat-in-a-Bag (Strong Bad, [[impression]])
*Clever Dan (Strong Bad, [[sibbie]])
*dacheese (Strong Bad, [[big white face]])
*Batman (Homestar, [[caper]])
*an ugly bird (Homestar, [[helium]])
*cheatachu72 ([[i she be]], later reused in [[marzipan]] and also used for bidding on a [[english_paper#Easter_Eggs|breakfast burrito]])

'''Other'''
*Mr. Cheat[[Names ending in -erson|erson]] (Strong Bad, [[Strong Badia National Anthem]])
*a little yellow dog-thing ([[Videlectrix]], [[Awexome Cross]])

===[[Strong Mad]]===
'''General'''
*Big Guy ([[Where's The Cheat?]], [[A Decemberween Pageant]])

'''Big Toons'''
*Our Bass Player (Marzipan, [[Weclome Back]])

'''Shorts'''
*Cool guy (Homestar, [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]])

'''Holiday Toons'''
*Tough Skins (Strong Bad, [[Superbowl Dealie]])
*Strong Madchu ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])
*Strong Madden ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])

'''Strong Bad Emails'''
*graw mad (Strong Bad, [[keep cool]])
*A website (Strong Mad, [[isp]])
*Lugnut (Strong Bad, [[narrator]])
*a no-talent minion (Strong Bad, [[portrait]])
*Chef Boyardee (Strong Bad, [[portrait]])
*Biggest Bro (Strong Bad, [[the facts]])
*Graw Mad (Strong Bad, [[the facts]])
*[[Killingyouguy]] (End credits, [[dangeresque 3]])
*Stlong Mad (Strong Mad, [[lunch special]])
*That one big guy (Strong Bad, [[army]])
*no-neck (Strong Bad, [[big white face]])
*Brain-for-brains (Strong Bad, [[invisibility]])

'''Other'''
*Low-brow (Strong Sad, [[Strong Sad's Lament]])
*A big lug ([[Yearbook Character Page]])

===[[Strong Sad]]===
'''Big Toons'''
*The Elephant Man (Coach Z, [[A Folky Tale]])
*Dripping Yellow Madness (Homestar, [[Cool Things]])
*Dairy Queen (Strong Bad, [[Bug In Mouth Disease]])
*wiener (Strong Bad, [[Where's the Cheat?]])

'''Shorts'''
*A butt (Strong Bad, [[TrogdorCon '97]])
*Rondell (Strong Sad, [[Experimental Film]])

'''Holiday Toons'''
*Half Man (Homestar Runner, [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]])
*Strong Sadchu ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])

'''Strong Bad Emails'''
*Trundle bed (Strong Bad, [[keep cool]])
*The Elephant-Footed Ghost Man (Strong Bad, [[myths & legends]])
*Biggest Waste of Dump (Strong Bad, [[record book]])
*Double-Bottom (Strong Bad, [[record book]])
*S² (Neils Bohr, [[boring (really)]])
*Helvetica (Senor Cardgage, [[garage sale]])
*The Lurker (Strong Bad, [[garage sale]])
*DJ Dumpy Dump (Strong Bad, [[rampage]])
*M.C. for Master of Ceremonies (Coach Z, [[rampage]])
*A round mound of gray fatness (Strong Bad, [[rampage]])
*S.S. for Strong Sad (Coach Z, [[rampage]])
*My Dear Fatson (Strong Bad, [[best thing]])
*Harry Elephanté (Strong Bad, [[origins]])
*[[The Deathly Pallor]] (Strong Sad, [[radio]])
*A whiny know-it-all (Strong Bad, [[radio]])
*Ol' Greystoke (Strong Bad, [[radio]])
*El Dumpo (Strong Bad, [[dangeresque 3]])
*[[Tendafoot]] (Strong Bad, [[crying]])
*Gron Sad (Strong Bad, [[car]])
*My stupid baby brother (Strong Bad, [[different town]])
*[[The Deathly Pallor]] (Coach Z, [[impression]])
*wiggity-wiener (Strong Bad, [[big white face]])
*Dumpus (Strong Bad, [[autobiography]])
*That rhinoceros (Homsar, [[interview]])
*depressio111117 ([[marzipan]]; also seen as his AOL IM in [[Strong Sad's Lament]])
*Interrupter Jones (Strong Bad, [[morning routine]])
*Stupid (Strong Bad, [[depressio]])
*Stupid kid brother (Strong Bad, [[depressio]])

'''Marzipan's Answering Machine'''
*A waste of FAT space (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]])

'''Other'''
*The Floating Head of Dooooom (Strong Sad, [[Main Page 23]])
*A fat, gray, [[Soolnds|elephant-footed]] depressing lump ([[Yearbook Character Page]])
*A total drag ([[Yearbook Character Page]])

===[[Pom Pom]]===
''' Big Toons '''
*Roundy Man (Homestar, [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]])

''' Holiday Toons '''
*My main man (Homestar, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]])
*My dog (Homestar, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]])
*My ace in the hole (Homestar, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]])
*Pom Pomchu ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])

''' Strong Bad Email '''
*My dog Pom Pom (Homestar, [[myths & legends]])
*Hindenburg (Strong Bad, [[pom pom]])
*Led Zeppelin (Strong Bad, [[pom pom]])
*Ronnie (Strong Bad, [[Strumstar Hammer]])

===[[Marzipan]]===
''' Big Toons '''
*Marzi-person (Bubs, [[Weclome Back]])
*Lady (Homestar, [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]])
*Stupid (Homestar, [[Where's The Cheat?]])

''' Holiday Toons '''
*Mom-zipan (Homestar, [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]])
*Marzi-man (Homestar, [[Homestar Presents: Presents]])
*Marzychu ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])
*A Laugh Riot [[Grrl]] ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])

''' Strong Bad Emails '''
*some type of enormous... alien... cow (Homestar, [[narrator]])
*ladytype (Homestar, [[lady...ing]])
*Girlfriend (Homestar, [[secret recipes]])
*M4RZ1P4N (Strong Bad, [[big white face]])
*Hooray4Dolphins (Strong Bad, [[marzipan]])

''' Marzipan's Answering Machine '''
*Brown (The Homestar Runner, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2]])
*Not Marzipan (Marzipan, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2]])
*you old broomstick (Homestar, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]])
*Sister (Homestar, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]])
*M-A-R-Z-I-P-A-N (Marzipan, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]])
*Pawkeegan (Homestar, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0]])
*Marz-pan (Grape Nuts Robot, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0]])
*Marzy (Coach Z, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0]])
*Marzipanio (Marzipan, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 8.0]])
*Mrs. Pan (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 7.0]])
*Mrs. Pan (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]])
*Ugly-Pan (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 3.0]])
*Mrs. Pan (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 2.0]])
*Mrs. Pan (Strong Bad, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 1.0]])

'''Other'''
*[[Homestar and Marzipan's Relationship|Homestar's Girlfriend]] ([[Yearbook Character Page]])
*a dirty hippie...without the dirt (Strong Bad, [[Yearbook Character Page]])

===[[Coach Z]]===
'''Big Toons'''
*Coach Dang Z (Coach Z, [[A Folky Tale]])

'''Holiday Toons'''
*Coach Zchu ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])

'''Strong Bad Emails'''
*Green Bubs (Strong Bad, [[road trip]])
*Deborah (Homestar Runner, [[senior prom]])
*Cadet Z (Space Captainface, [[space program]])
*Just a silly little bumblebee (Coach Z, [[record book]])
*Coach Zed (Strong Bad, [[do over]])
*The Coach Z (Strong Bad, [[flashback]])
*hot girl #37 (Coach Z, [[2 emails]])
*[[Coach B and Zubs|Coach B]] (Strong Bad, [[current status]])

'''Marzipan's Answering Machine'''
*The Lyrical Wondermind (Coach Z, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]])

'''Other'''
*The Coach (Coach Z, [[Coach_Z#Character_Video_Transcript|Coach Z's Character Video]])
*a crazy man from another country ([[Yearbook Character Page]])
*the master of all the big sports ([[Yearbook Character Page]])
*Coach Zee (the apparent original spelling, [[Where My Hat Is At?]])

===[[Bubs]]===
'''Big Toons'''
*Ol' Bubs (Homestar, [[Cool Things]])
*Dr. Bubs (Bubs, [[Bug In Mouth Disease]])
*Tubbs (Homsar, [[Where's The Cheat?]])

'''Shorts'''
*Bubsy (Homestar, [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]])

'''Holiday Toons'''
*Old Mr. Bubs (Homestar, [[Fall Float Parade]])
*Blue face man (Homestar, [[Fall Float Parade]])
*Great American Bubs (Homestar, [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]])
*Bubba-daddy (Homestar Runner, [[Senorial Day]])
*The hoppity frog of values (Bubs, [[Senorial Day]])
*Bubsy (Coach Z, [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]])
*Cornbread (Bubs as [[Dr. Christmas]], [[A Decemberween Pageant]])
*Bubsachu ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])

'''Strong Bad Emails'''
*Orange Coach Z (Coach Z, [[road trip]])
*Old Man Bubs (Strong Bad, [[isp]])
*Bubs-O (Coach Z, [[geddup noise]])
*The Haggler (Strong Bad, [[garage sale]])
*Mr. Bubs (Strong Bad, [[part-time job]])
*The computer genius man (Strong Bad, [[virus]])
*Sbu (Strong Bad, [[lunch special]])
*[[The Thnikkaman]] (announcer, [[monument]])
*Bu-Hubs (Strong Bad, [[big white face]])
*[[Coach B and Zubs|Zubs]] (Strong Bad, [[current status]])

'''Marzipan's Answering Machine'''
*[[The Thnikkaman]] (Bubs, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2]])

'''Other'''
*Bubsy (Homestar, [[Broken Compy Menu]])

===[[The King of Town]]===
''' Big Toons '''
*Santa (Homestar Runner, [[Bug In Mouth Disease]])
*Kingy (Coach Z, [[Where's The Cheat?]])

''' Holiday Toons '''
*Your Kentucky Fried-ness (Homestar, [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]])
*Oldie (Strong Bad, [[Halloween Fairstival]])
*Your "Highness" (Strong Bad, [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]])
*Kingy (Coach Z, [[A Decemberween Pageant]])
*Mr. Of Town (Homestar, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]])
*Kingachu ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])

''' Strong Bad Emails '''
*King o' Town (Strong Bad, [[record book]])
*Old Bag (Strong Bad, [[boring (really)]])
*Old King Droll (Strong Bad, [[secret recipes]])
*Creepy Old Man (Strong Bad, [[the bet]])

''' Marzipan's Answering Machine '''
*Strong Bad (King of Town, [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 4.0]])

''' Other '''
*Kingio ([[Super Kingio Brothers]])
*The KoT ([[King of Town Main Page]])

===[[The Poopsmith]]===
''' Big Toons '''
*doodieman (Strong Bad, [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]])

''' Holiday Toons '''
*Poop-Stick (Homestar, [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]])
*Poopachu ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])
*Teddy Poopspin ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])

''' Strong Bad Emails '''
*Doodoo Man (Strong Bad, [[big white face]])
*mr.smith (Strong Bad, [[big white face]])

===[[Homsar]]===
''' Holiday Toons '''
*The secret guy (Homestar, [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]])
*Shortstop (Homestar, [[Homestar Presents: Presents]])
*The ghost of Christmas past (Homsar, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]])
*little man (Homestar, [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]])
*The Original Ladies' Man (Homsar, [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]])
*Homsarchu ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]])

''' Strong Bad Emails '''
*The Human Wedgie (Homsar, [[origins]])
*America's favorite blue midget Homestar (Strong Bad, [[for kids]])
*Haddi-man (kids, [[for kids]])
*A trendy tote bag (Homsar, [[for kids]])
*Little weirdo (Strong Bad, [[different town]])
*bread?? (Strong Bad, [[interview]])
*stoop (Strong Bad, [[interview]])

''' Other '''
*Captain of the Gravy Train (Homsar, [[Homsar#Character_Video_Transcript|Homsar's Character Video]])
*Parson Brown (Homsar, [[Strong Sad's Lament]])

==Minor Characters==
===[[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]===

'''[[The Wheelchair]]'''
*That stupid wheelchair kid (Cheerleader, [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]])

'''[[Eh, Steve!]]'''
*Steven (Cheerleader, [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]])
*Eh. Steven. (Leomard Sportsinterviews, Email [[different town]])

'''[[Ready For Primetime]]'''
*That blonde guy (Homestar, [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]])
*Eh, Greg (Strong Bad, Email [[haircut]])
*Sweetie cakes (Strong Mad, Email [[haircut]])

===[[Old Timey]]===
'''[[Old-Timey Strong Bad]]'''
*Sir Strong Bad (Telegram sender Lord Elsington Hallstingdingdingworth, [[50 emails]])
*Uncle Strong Bad (Old-Timey Strong Bad, [[2 emails]])

'''[[Fat Dudley]]'''
*Fat Duds (The Homestar Runner, [[That A Ghost]])

'''[[The Sneak]]'''
*[[The Dapper Swindler]] ("Wanted" poster, [[Ballad of The Sneak]])

'''[[Mr. Shmallow]]'''
*That monster (The Homestar Runner, [[Mr. Shmallow (toon)|Mr. Shmallow]])

===[[Cheat Commandos]]===
'''[[Reynold]]'''
*Reynold-a (Fightgar, [[Shopping for Danger]])
*Cheat Cuss-mando (Gunhaver, [[Commandos in the Classroom]])

'''[[Ser-g-geant Marshie]]'''
*this flying cotton ball (Gunhaver, [[Cheat Commandos...O's]])

===[[Teen Girl Squad]]===
'''[[Teen Girl Squad]]'''
*T33n G1rl Squ4dx0rx!!11 (Page title; [[Teen Girl Squad|TGS Menu]])
*the other girls (All girls except What's Her Face, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]])
*my gallies (Cheerleader, [[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad|Teen Girl Squad Issue 6]])
*Worldwide Starlets (Teen Girl Squad, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]])
*Smartly Pretty (Teen Girl Squad, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]])
*Kissy Boots (Teen Girl Squad, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]])
*You little brats (Mrs. So-and-So-erson, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]])
*my Spanish galleons (Cheerleader, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9]])
*my art galleries (Cheerleader, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9]])
*gals (Cheerleader, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]])
*grlfrndz (The Ugly One, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]])
*fair maidens (DN'D Greg, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]])
*earthlings (SciFi Greg, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]])

'''[[Cheerleader]]'''
*rich [[Grrl|grrl]] (Her shirt, [[Teen Girl Squad|TGS Menu]])
*hott type! (Her shirt, [[Teen Girl Squad|TGS Menu]])
*fattycakes (Intro description, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]])

'''[[So and So]]'''
*Kristen (Cheerleader, [[comic]] and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]])
*Kristin-a (What's Her Face, [[comic]] and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]])
*The Over-Achiever Bandit (So and So, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9]])
*Mark (Cut-Out Shirt Folding Store Girl, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]])

'''[[What's Her Face]]'''
*The new leader (What's Her Face, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]])
*The follower (What's Her Face, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]])
*W HERFACE (Mailbox, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]])
*the one with baggy pants (Teen Girl Squad, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]])
*bunkmate (Raccoon Girl, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]])

'''[[The Ugly One]]'''
*Young Man (Teacher; [[Teen Girl Squad|TGS Menu]])
*The new leader (The Ugly One, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]])
*The follower (The Ugly One, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]])
*The Hotgly One (The Brothers Chaps, [[Sketchbook#SK-2005-10-20|Sketchbook]])
*Uggs (Cheerleader, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 11]])

'''[[Arrow'd Guy]]'''
*mister (Strong Bad, [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]])

===[[20X6]]===
'''[[Stinkoman]]'''
*MY DOGE (Vector Strong Bad, [[alternate universe]])
*a demon on wheels (Stinkoman, [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]])
*Sign Up Today Man ([[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]])

'''[[Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies]]''' 
(All of these are from the [[Stinkomanual]].)
*'''Pooru-Pooru''' - punk cucumber
*'''Rose Blake''' - 'lectric burner
*'''Clowder''' - crotchety old cloud
*'''Astromund''' - astro style mund
*'''Piedmont''' - comedian
*'''Porchi''' - round-about
*'''Stafulter''' - flying plug-duck
*'''Postlethwaite''' - ol' P-thwaite
*'''Ditmars''' - NOT a tree and a blanket
*'''Ekersby''' - A jumble of good, good graphics
*'''Prudench''' - skrimps
*'''Dolmerlay''' - Dolmy
*'''Semulade''' - shark-ships
*'''Broodacre''' - jungle-ized bolcano, Broody

===Miscellaneous===
'''[[The Sad Kids]]'''
*those little punks next door (Marshie, [[Malloween Commercial]])

'''[[Marshie]]'''
*that fweakin' marshmallow (Homestar, [[Meet Marshie]])
*that fweakin' robot (Homestar, [[Meet Marshie]])
*that flying mushroom (Strong Bad, Email [[the show]])
*Marshy (Dan Miller, [[TMBG Concert - 25 Sep 2004]] track listing)
*that freakin' marshmallow (Strong Bad, [[TMBG Concert - 3 May 2006]])
'''[[They Might Be Giants]]'''
*the old Supreme Giants Boys (Strong Bad, [[Experimental Film]])
*Super Giant guys (Strong Bad, [[Experimental Film]])
*The Super Giants (Homestar Runner, [[Experimental Film]])

'''John Flansburgh (of TMBG)'''
*Flans ([[Puppet Jam]])
*that one right there with the glasses (Strong Bad, [[Experimental Film]])
*the glasses guy/that glasses guy (Strong Sad, [[Experimental Film]]: DVD version)

'''[[Carol]]'''
*Carl (The Cheat, [[Seasonal Sweaters]], Email [[marzipan]])

'''[[Señor]]'''
*Señor Ha-Ha-Ha-Havin' A Little Trouble (The Announcer, [[Strongest Man in the World]])

'''[[Mr. Bland]]'''
*The prince of plain (The Announcer, [[Strongest Man in the World]])
*The master of mundane (The Announcer, [[Strongest Man in the World]])

'''[[The Robot (storybook)|The Robot]]'''
*The walking metal robot (The Announcer, [[Strongest Man in the World]])

'''[[Senor Cardgage]]'''
* T. Mendous Savings (Senor Cardgage, [[Senorial Day]])
* old denominator (Senor Cardgage, Email [[kind of cool]])
* old wintergreen (Senor Cardgage, Email [[kind of cool]])
* old Soderbergh (Senor Cardgage, Email [[kind of cool]])

'''[[Balding Man]]'''
* Husband of the Year (Narrator, [[Senorial Day]])

'''[[Li'l Brudder]]'''
* The king of the dregs (Singers, [[The Li'l Brudder Show]])

'''[[The Robot]]'''
* Valerie (Senor Cardgage, [[Senor Mortgage]])
* Not Valerie (The Robot, [[Senor Mortgage]])

'''[[Saddy Dumpington]]'''
* Ol' Dumps (Strong Sad, [[A Folky Tale]])
* Weird Snake Joe (Saddy Dumpington, [[A Folky Tale]])

'''[[Atari Dragon]]'''
*freakin' duck (Strong Bad, [[Main Page 13]], [[highschool]])

'''[[Trogdor]]'''
*Trogador ([[TROGDOR!]] intro)
*Troggie (Strong Bad, [[Happy Trogday]])

'''[[Rather Dashing]]'''
*Rather Homely (The Blue Knight, [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]])

'''[[Tandy 400]]'''
*that old buncha beige (Strong Bad, [[pop-up]])

'''[[Compy 386]]'''
*three-eighty-sucks (Tandy 400, [[invisibility]])

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[[Category:Name running gags]]

Talk:pom pom

2006-09-07T18:20:31Z

Zonis: Dot Egg - Dot EDU?

== Opinion ==

Wow, there's not even a discussion on this one yet? Well I have some stuff to say: I DID NOT LIKE IT!! And you guys probably don't either (admit it, you don't like seeing Strong Bad get beaten up :P).
- [[User:Miss Free Country USA|Miss Free Country USA]]

== Image ==

[[Image:sbemail108-pin.png|thumb|YEEEEOOOOWWW!!!]] I made another picture for my user page, but thought you guys might like it too :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 21:57, 12 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Ahnberg Hand Q? ==

<pre>In the letter to Pom-Pom's parents, TBC did not use the modified Ahnberg Hand Q.</pre>

What exactly is Ahnberg Hand Q? A font? And what is its significance? (Is that what [[The Brothers Chaps]] use for Strong Bad's handwriting?) Please be more specific with things like this. --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 14:52, 17 Nov 2004 (MST)

Yes, Ahnberg Hand Q is what TBC use for Strong Bad's handwriting. I wish I had it on my computer! -[[User:Miss Free Country USA|Click if you dare]]

Question: If Strong Bad's typing gets messed up when he blindfolds himslef, wouldn't that mean that he needs to be looking at the keys to type properly? -[[User: Krem|Krem]]

:I 'gree. Is that a fun fact? {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:10, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Oh good, it is. 05:11, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

::I reworded it. Ahnberg Hand is the font. This font uses a crossed q, which TBC normally change to a normal q. They did not this time. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

== Three-to-one marny ==

Are Strong Bad and Bubs playing three-to-one marny in the easter egg at the end? I'm not quite sure. --sticklyman

Good question. It's possible, because Strong Bad had 3 cards and Bubs had 1. So that's three-to-one. And here's something else to consider: if Bubs had a Kevin instead of a MonkeyDude, would that give him a full house? --[[User:unknownwarrior33|unknownwarrior33]] 14:28, 24 Dec 2004 (MST)

==Helium or Hydroge==
"Strong Bad assumed that Pom Pom was filled with either hydrogen or helium, although it's probably neither of those, since they are each lighter than air in their natural states. If he were filled with hydrogen or helium, he would float away like a balloon, instead of being able to land on the ground."

Technically, he would not ''necessarily'' float even if filled with Helium or Hydrogen. It would depend on what his outside is made of, and how thick his outside was. For example, if you had a typical one-foot diameter balloon made out of lead instead of rubber, or of the latex was three inches thick, they would not float either, even filled with your standard balloon-level density of helium. Also, his arms and legs must have been solid, due to the fact that he can kick [[Strong Bad]] a fair distance. If they were simply inflated lumps on his body, they probably woudn't be able to do much damage. If his legs and arms were heavy enough, he would be stabilized.

== Closed STUFF ==

These were on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page and declined. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

===Bubs...greedy? (Declined)===
When Strong Bad smashes his face into the wall, Bubs puts up a sign saying that face smachings are $5. When Pom Pom beats the everloving crap out of Strong Bad, Bubs puts up a sign saying that severe beatings are $10. Could Bubs be greedy?
*'''Decline.''' This is definitely not the only reference to Bubs' greedyness. By the point this email comes out, anyone that knows Bubs would almost expect that of him. --[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Second.''' -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Third.''' And add, duh. -- [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 09:47, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Fourth.''' Everyone knows that Bubs' is greedy. It's not just the [[pom pom]] email. Don't forget [[local news]] where they have to pay 5 bucks to wait in line. It's a joke to poke fun at already known knowledge. (I know I'm being repetitive.) [[User:Pop_tire|Pop_tire]] 24 Mar 2005
**'''Fifth''' A fact by a newb. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 19:09, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' (or '''Sixth''', I guess, to follow the pattern here...) - [[User:Alun Clewe|Alun Clewe]] 09:26, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second''' ('''Seventh''') We all KNOW Bubs is greedy. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 13:37, 1 Apr 2005 (MST)
***'''Accept'''. We know Bubs IS greedy, but the fact says that he COULD BE greedy, which is a new idea and very much worth keeping.
**** It's a good thing this guy didn't sign his vote. Or we should've counted it. (I won't sign this, this isn't a vote.)
**'''SECOND'D!''' ('''Eighth''') It's not all that hard to figure out. [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 19:15, 6 Apr 2005 (EST)
*'''Decline-inate'''And what about him charging increasing amounts of cash for pictures with the tragic hotdog clown? [[User:Donny vs Universe|Donny vs Universe]]
*'''Decline''' Gee, you figured out Bubs was greedy all by yourself huh? No flashcards or anything? [[User:The_Pardack|The_Pardack]]
*'''Decline''' ('''Tenth'd!''')Well, there's no way this is getting Accepted now. -Walking Armless
*'''Decline''' Bubs is greedy?! You've ruined my perception of his character! But seriously... the best place to acknowledge Bubs' greed is in his profile. -[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]]

===hidden frame (Declined)===
For those of us using a seek bar there is a broken frame between the two easter eggs; a single frame of a black object that doesn't appear anywhere in the email itself.
* Flash artifacts = no. '''Decline''' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:52, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second.''' --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:54, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
** '''Second.''' -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 02:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
**'''Second.''' I can tell this one's gonna come off the board quickly. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 03:46, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''That'll be 4 DECLINES.''' No idea what you're saying, so also a serious '''Rewrited.''' [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 02:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' Uhh... no. I don't even know what you're talking about and I'm sure many others would be able to say the same. We're supposed to keep people informed, not confuse the poop out of them. --[[User:Upset_Your_Balance|Upset_Your_Balance]] 02:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*'''Decline.''' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
==Hidden Object Revealed==
*The submitter of the "hidden frame" fun fact above may have confused many, but he/she is, in fact, right about the unused object. It appears for twenty frames (frame 2085 to 2105) and while it is a flash artifact, it leaves the question of why it was not used. Perhaps it's a goof of some sort (although not a significant one) or maybe something extra for us "flash kiddies". I personally think it is some kind of ribbon or award. Picture of object in question:
http://www.strongfans.com/upload/thepaper/sb108_hidden.png

{{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:03, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:*Check out the picture at the top of the page. That object is clearly the ribbon at the back of Strong Bad's headband, only in black instead of white. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 14:42, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:This is obviously old news, but for those who never figured it out... Watch the [[Theme Song Video]] and look at Pom Pom's belt when he's practicing his karate, and you'll see exactly what this object is (or was). If you watch his bandana as well, you'll notice that it's never shown from the back or side, so the knot is never visible. When Mike borrowed his bandana for Strong Bad's blindfold, he needed to add the knot for side views. So apparently he grabbed part of Pom Pom's belt from the same costume and recolored it. The stray object is the knot in its original colors, probably just left behind out of carelessness. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 14:39, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

==BMW Lighter Reference?==

This is the only one of the toons containing the BMW Lighter in which it does not burn something. Should that be added to a section of the front page? It seems rather special to me. [[User:Mortacai|Mortacai]]

:I think it's too easily outdated and not really that notable, sorry. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:39, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC) (BTW, here's a better way to sign your name. Use four tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>)

== Kamikaze ==

I edited the mentions of Strong Bad's blindfold in the Transcript and Real-World References for accuracy. Specifically, I removed claims that it is a "Kamikaze bandana". While kamikaze pilots probably did often wear bandanas, this was a much older Japanese tradition and nothing specific to kamikaze. Actually, a kamikaze's bandana would be more likely to have a slogan written on it, particularly ''banzai'' ("ten-thousand years").

Of course, if someone feels that there's enough false association in people's minds between this bandana and kamikaze (like there could be with The Karate Kid, although the two bandanas side-by-side really don't look that similar), go ahead and revert. Just please make sure you're spelling it correctly, with no capitalization. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 14:55, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== Dot Egg ==

I believe "Dot Egg" is actually a well-disuiged inside reference to Coach Z's bizzare accent. (and may deserve mention as such in the remarks section) Coach Z's unique style of speaking would actually cause the word "Egg" to be pronounced "Org" --Tempestryder
: Given that Coach Z disagrees with it, I doubt it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:: Yes, it's something of a backwards reference, where homestar has "removed" the Coach Z accent from the correct way of speaking the word. (As opposed to ADDING the Coach Z accent to the correct pronunciation) --Tempestryder

== Dot Egg - Dot EDU? ==

Is Homestar trying to say .edu, misreading it and confusing it with .egg?

Talk:No Hands On Deck!

2006-09-04T05:16:33Z

Zonis: /* Bubs Likes to Dance, Right? */

== What does "in progress" mean? ==

Folks, please note the <nowiki>{{inprogress}}</nowiki> template - Thunderbird is already working on the transcript, and rather than have him and everyone run into endless edit conflicts, please respect the template. K? Thanks. There are other sections we can work on. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
: Hey, only reason ''I'' messed with it was because of some [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=No_Hands_On_Deck%21&diff=356571&oldid=356568 sloppy edit] undoing what Thunderbird started. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
::Understood. I'm waiting for the notice to go down to correct the image extension from PNG to png myself. It was right at one point... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:32, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Meh. Whatever. It's not like it was pretty much my only chance to ever do an actual transcription of a visual toon. I'm sure I'll have another chance in another two years of wiking or so. Though it is darn annoying when you spend 10 minutes transcribing a toon, only to find out that one edit prior, somebody else already transcribed the same section, despite the in progress template. Maybe if I hadn't actually bothered to look for the Cardboard Marzipan precident, I would have got my revision out first. Oh well, I guess fastest transcriber wins, or something like that. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
::::'''Nobody''' wins when it's a contest in someone's mind. We're here to serve the HRWiki first, our pitiful little egos second, and slipshod work that has to be rewritten is less valuable to this user than a careful edit which lasts, all other things being equal. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Agreed, but I think there's some merit to combining the best elements of two edits as well if there are important differences between them. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 20:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::True, but what we were discussing was the "screw-the-other-guy" push to be the one who can transcribe the toon (presumably to brag about it on a user page). That's a little different. Observing the <nowiki>{{inprogress}}</nowiki> is important, wouldn't you agree? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, of course. What I meant was that if an edit conflict ends up happening, we should make the best of it. But I totally agree that the progress tag is important, and I apologize if I was confusing. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 07:07, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

== Feeding ducks through a tube ==

This is probably a reference to force-feeding geese in order to harvest their livers for foie gras. This has come under attack by animal rights activists recently.

:Yup, see [[No Hands On Deck!#Explanations]]. Thanks. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

== Added to main page? ==

lol the toon came out the morning but its not on any of the main pages but it iz in the toons menu
iz this the 1st thime that's happened? {{User:Rabb/sig}}
:It is on the main pages, all of them.... {{User:Salty/sig}} 18:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
::I see "New Short Toon" in a red oval... clear your cache? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:24, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

== But will it play in Chicago? ==

I question the relevance of the mention of Chicago's ban on foie gras. One, this toon is not made near Chicago; while it's a story on the news all over, it's not directly relevant to Atlanta. Two, they started this days ago, and the comment fits neatly into Marzipan's character even if there was no Chicago news today. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:39, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

:I didn't include that bit when I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=No_Hands_On_Deck%21&diff=356657&oldid=356655 first wrote the fact] because I didn't know about it. Heck, I didn't even know about foie gras until I did some research on tubes and ducks. When I saw the bit about the Chicago ban was [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=No_Hands_On_Deck%21&diff=356682&oldid=356681 added] then [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=No_Hands_On_Deck%21&diff=356684&oldid=356682 removed] and then [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=No_Hands_On_Deck%21&diff=356685&oldid=356684 re-added], I beefed it up a [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=No_Hands_On_Deck%21&diff=356693&oldid=356686 teesy bit], but I can probably take it or leave it. What do others think? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:50, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
::Just to clarify - the tube bit is clearly a reference to foie gras and the controversy. It's just the specific tie-in to today's news from Chicago that seems a stretch. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:53, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I support this fact. TBC said in interviews that what they like most about doing cartoons on the internet, is that they can change stuff in the last minute. Maybe Marzi used to say something else, and was changed in light of the Chicago thing. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I like it. {{User:Csours/sig}} 19:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::There was an article in our paper about the impending ban three weeks ago, so they could easily have heard about it by toonmaking time. If not a reference, I'd bet it's at least inspired by the ban.[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
::::::The Chicago story was on the front page of cnn.com this morning (possibly earlier too). {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

== I'm not Rapaport ==

I swear, they do this because we debate this stuff. Remember the "Mr. Chechov" controversy? Well, here we are again.

Now that we have an egg showing the spelling of "Rappaport", is it a reference to Michael Rapaport at all, or just the play? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

:I'm still not convinced it's a reference to either of them - it seems too vague to be a reference to that play, and it can't be the actor because of the spelling. I'm on the fence (or maybe on the deck?) about it. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 07:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

::This is a strong case (to me) of something which would be an obvious reference to either one of these if the other didn't exist. Does that mean it cannot be a reference to either if it's possibly a reference to both? That's not how I interpret TTATOT. This is not like saying it may be a reference to a brand of socks or to a famous coalminer. These two possible sources for the name Rap(p)aport are closely linked and quite relevant to context. I say keep 'em both. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:19, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

== Prescription ==

Strong Sad could have been talking about a contact lens prescription.

:No, He meant his medication. He thought that he was just seeing this (not with his eyes, that is). Also, you don't wear contacts in bed.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
::And in case you needed anything more, it was established in [[funny]] that Strong Sad takes some kind of medication and that it can have some pretty powerful effects judging by his reaction to Strong Bad's behavior. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 23:26, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

== handbill image ==
i uploaded an image of the hand bill, but i do not know how to put it on the page or where, or know what the protocol is for adding images, ie what type do we typically add/leave off. anyway, could someone discuss this for me? here is the image:
[[Image:Deckhandbill.png]]{{User:Csours/sig}} 21:39, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
:Add'd. See if you can figure out where? --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
::got it {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

==Bubs Likes to Dance, Right?==
When is the last time we have seen him dance?" [[User:Catman87|Catman87]]
:The moves we see are from [[Dancing Bubs]], which is already noted. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
::If I'm not mistaken, he was last seen dancing in [[disconnected]], but it's not fun fact worthy, as he didn't say anything in the toon about not dancing in a while like Homestar did about melonade. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Bubs has a history of dancing. He dances quite a lot, and I think it really should be a Running Gag. He's done a dance in quite a few toons/e-mails. It is usually accompanied by Bubs or Homestar saying the same word or phrase many times a row, such as "Check it out, check it out, check it out, check it out..."

== Deckeman or Duckie-man? ==

Deckeman sounds like the name the prince of town (flashback) gave Homestar which is Duckie-man or however you spell it. Should it be noted or am I thinking about this too much? {{User:Steve/sig}} 00:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
:Homestar's nickname in [[flashback]] was Duckshirt, not Duckieman. So no, I don't think it's a reference. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 02:33, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
::The POT does say, "and the duckie-man is the winner!" But I still think this is a stretch because they don't sound ''that'' similar. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
:It says "Deckeman" because that's how Homestar spells it earlier in the toon. -[[User:154.35.47.59|154.35.47.59]] 06:23, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

== Second Homestar? ==

OK, so the first time Homestar runs away from Cardboardzipan, is that a second Homestar under the table, saying "I've got to find me a new girlfriend?" Or, did he run...in a rather odd direction?

:The second - this happens all the time; see [[Summer Short Shorts]] for an example of Strong Bad doing it. While we're here, the second possible "twin" Homestar sighting was in the stylized "hammer and saw" montage. I really can't see how that'd count, though. It's a montage, these things happen. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

::These two instances aren't nearly so identical as you claim, Qermaq, though it's an instructive comparison. In [[Summer Short Shorts]] the "second" Strongbad breaks the third wall in the manner of a voice-over narrator of a documentary talking about footage in which he appears. So in that case, he's not really a "second" Strongbad but the same Strongbad speaking at a later date in the manner of an aside or DVD commentary. In No Hands On Deck!, the "second" Homestar appears in the same temporal sequence so he can make faux-Marzipan move in the manner of any puppeteer or ventriloquist. In this case, as with Strongbad in Summer Short Shorts, there isn't really a second Homestar. And in both cases the unexpected appearence of the same character has the effect of calling attention to the artificiality of what we're watching: a show, put on (often ineptly) for our entertainment, and not simply events in an alternate universe. So there is a meaningful similarity. But the effect is accomplished differently: as a reference to puppetry/ventriloquism, rather than a reference to documentaries/DVD commentary. [[User:Henebry|Henebry]] 12:53, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
::: Um, wrong toon. You are pretty clearly referring to [[keep cool]]. I think Qermaq is referring to the first short in [[Summer Short Shorts]], where Strong Bad dashes across the room suddenly while encouraging The Cheat to eat "ONE MORE!" French fry. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 13:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
::: (Edit conflict) Are you getting confused with [[keep cool]]? The [[Summer Short Shorts]] appearance is, I think, the "Did you hear the latest news?" line. I think Homestar annoying Strong Bad in [[Bug in Mouth Disease ]] is a better example, or getting the powdered herbs and spices in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]... In both, Homestar leaves in one direction and immediately enters from another. It's just, as DorianGray said, [[Wikipedia:cartoon physics|cartoon physics]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I had always assumed it was the same Homestar, just moving around "behind the black" incredibly fast. Let's not forget how he zapped around from place to place in [[long pants]] either. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Incase anyone's wondering, if u squeeze the window really narrow you can see behind the black frame and see that its just Homestar's head and it doesnt even move while he talks. Clearly that is not a twin of Homestar
::::::In case the poster above checks this again: Things "behind the black" don't really count as "reality" within a cartoon; if they did we'd have people missing arms or legs 'n' stuff all the time. And by the way, a much easier way to check it out is with a [http://www.eltima.com/products/flashdecompiler/ Flash decompiler]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:10, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::An even easier way is to install [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|this Greasemonkey script]] and turn on the "show outside the frame" option... but no, it makes sense it's just Homestar's non-talking head... why bother to animate it it virtually noone (and noone who watches it properly) will see? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::"turn on the "show outside the frame" option" - can you direct me to a help file on how to do that? I see pause, back and forth, in and out, and that's it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yes, Qermaq, there's a painfully obvious icon in the upper left. NERD!!! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
:Of course, it could be this guy:[[Image:mustachioedHR.png]], first featured in [[Senorial Day]]. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:29, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

== Sitting girl thing. ==
What do you hear? Homestar's speech was never the crispest dialogue, but I hear '''sitting'''. It's been changed back and forth more than once today. Peoples? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
:Homestar's mouth movements accomodate two syllables. A very clear "sitting." This one's not even close. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:03, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

::Frame 79-80 Look
::Frame 82-83 girl
::Frame 85 thing
::Frame 87 a
::Frame 89-91 cross
::Frame 93 from
::Frame 95-97 me

::Where is there an extra mouth movement? Visual seems to be the right syllable count. We need to rely on audio here. When I play from frame 85, I can hear "ing", but not from frame 86. So 85 and 87 cannot possibly be "sit" and "ting".

::And while last night "thing" sounded exactly right, I can this morning hear why "sitting" seems right ar well. This reminds me of all the times we've had "s"s turn up when they shouldn't - Flash audio seems to add a degree of sibilance to the sound, resulting in a very lisp-like rendition of what was said. Thing is, this is one of those things that's never going to be obvious, no matter how "not even close" one person declares it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
:::try this [[Image:Gewlthing.ogg]]. its girl thing... {{User:Csours/sig}} 13:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
::::i looked in that same thing and i heard an "s". i am pretty sure it is girl sitting across from me. [[User:Jhonka|Jhonka]]
:::::I hear '''thing'''. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 16:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::Sitting. Absolutely. {{User:Salty/sig}} 17:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Agree. I distinctly hear two syllables. Thus, sitting. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::Sitting. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:45, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::I hear "sitting". -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:28, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::for future debates, would it be a appropriate to link the transcript to this kind of discussion? also you ppl are all wrong. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC) well except for qermaq and cool.
:::::::::::I heard "sitting", mainly because the /i/ sound seemed to have a stop in the middle - but pulling out the sound with a decompiler and isolating the word in Audacity, I see it's only one syllable long, and listening to it on its own sounds much more like "thing". So I vote for "thing". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:10, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::I hear "sitting" (admittedly with a lisp). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:12, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::hears some more ear candy for all you'se guys. also, how do i list this better? since its not an image. btw its from cool things. where homestar actually does say sitting. to compare/contrast. [[Image:Sittingoncoolthings.ogg]] {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::At first I heard "thing," but after going back and listening several times, I can hear both. I think "thing" is funnier but "sitting" makes more sense. Sounds like it would make a good qotw to me, though. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 06:20, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Look at [[:Image:Gewlthing.png]], a breakdown of the speech, to complement my original post above. "Sitting" would be normally be pronounced /sɪtɪŋ/ ([[Wikipedia:IPA chart for English|IPA]]), or, with Homestar's speech impediment, /sɪ.ɪŋ/, with just a stop between the /ɪ/s. There is no stop in the word, it's just /sɪŋ/, or /θɪŋ/, as Qermaq mentioned, /θ/ can mutate into /s/ under heavy MP3 compression. So, it's either "thing" or "sing", but not "sitting". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:44, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::I agree with all that technical business, having done my own research and achieved similar results. When I listen to the word in the context of the toon itself, however, I ''still'' always hear "sitting". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 11:53, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Could it be that they skipped a syllable of mouth movements because the words are slurred together? I'm thinking it's possible that sit'''ting a'''cross could have one jaw drop. After all, that's what ''we'' do when we speak that phrase. So if that is true, then "sitting" could very well be technically accounted for. Also, what audio medium are you guys using? Speakers or a headset? A headset is without argument the better way to listen to it. On this computer, I have speakers, and it's hard to tell what he's saying, but my headsets in a quiet room downstars give me an easier time. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:06, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I've refused to take a position yet because I don't have the time at the moment to give it a fair trial. If someone else weighed in after two minutes of effort, I'd take their opinion with a grain of salt too. But for what it's worth, my cursory listening sounds like two syllables—specifically I hear two vowel sounds, a short and a long "i". —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

==I Can Be the Orphan==

Is Coach Z's orphan impersination a reference to Oliver or another musical? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 04:31, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
: Annie. As long as there is more than one major musical with an orphan (and there is) this would be TTATOT. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:07, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
::But if the reason he brings up orphans is that so many musicals involve them, is THAT worth mentioning? After all, the two musicals mentioned here are very famous, so does anyone think they might have influenced the coach's idea? -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 07:11, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
:::What are the two mentioned here? I see one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Jay mentioned [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083564/ Annie].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:21, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I see it now, I must be a little sleepy. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
::I immediately thought of Oliver, then a moment later Annie. But maybe the reason everybody thinks of Oliver first is the cap? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:10, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
:::"Where is my Mudder, dee doo," is an obvious reference to "Where is Love" in Oliver. The song is Oliver requesting someone to care for him like his mother would have, thus, "Where is my Mudder, dee doo". --[[User:71.35.152.110|71.35.152.110]] 17:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Isn't the joke that Coach Z wants to be "the" orphan because he thinks that every musical has one? [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 23:34, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::The orphan is a staple of musicals, and Coach Z probably doesn't watch many, so he thought Homestar's must have one. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 19:23, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::I don't agree that the orphan is a staple of musicals, as we could only list 2 above. By that logic, they are a staple of TV sitcoms (''Webster'', ''Diff'rent Strokes'') as well. The jury's still out on whether Oliver would beg for more staple sauce, however. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

==FCUSA==
Can someone edit it, and make it say that FCUSA is a reference to Free Country USA please?
i just don't have the time right now...

:FCUSA is not a reference to Free Country, USA. It is an initialism for it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:17, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Might the acronym also be an allusion to the clothing retailer French Connection U.K. (which has a rather risqué acronym that they put on t-shirts and their signage)?

== nails ==

[[wikipedia:Galvanized nails|Galvanized nails]] and [[wikipedia:Vulcanized nails|Vulcanized nails]] have no articles at 'Kipedia. Neither ''Galvanised'' or ''Vulcanised'' I've put them on my watchlist so vandals beware. The population of nails have tripled in recent years. [[User:216.106.180.138|216.106.180.138]] 13:18, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
:However, it does have articles on [[Wikipedia:galvanization|galvanization]] and [[Wikipedia:vulcanization|vulcanization]] (both linked to in the article, under [[No Hands On Deck!#Explanations|Explanations]])... and given what it actually is, I doubt 'kipedia would reccommend vulcanized nails... they wouldn't be particularly stable... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
::when you find an article on vulcanized nails, ill buy you a pizza. or a trophy. or a pizza trophy. or a pit's atrophy.{{User:Csours/sig}} 13:45, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I looked at [[Wikipedia:Deck_(building)|deck building]] and it says nothing about nails either. So much for THAT reference. HR prob isn't reading the actual wikipedia. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 15:38, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yay for Stephen Colbert. And by the way, Csours, Pit's a trophy in Super Smash Brothers Melee: [http://nindb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/dol/images/cam/gal/gal_ms-t26.jpg check here]. And yed, in case you were wondering, I DO have too much random video game information. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 06:27, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::you get a vulcanized nail for finding that. well, as soon as [[User:Phlip|Phlip]] finds some. {{User:Csours/sig}} 13:26, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::The [[Wikipedia:Nail_(engineering)|Wikipedia article about nails]] mentions galvanized nails, citing them as "treated for resistance to corrosion and/or weather exposure", which would make them perfect for building a deck. Of course that means that either 'Kipedia is not the same thing as Wikipedia or Homestar is just talking out of his butt. Neither alternative is surprising, but it does mean that galvanized nails sound pretty legit. Also, NFITC, that link is a little misleading; It's an article about decks, not building them. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 23:47, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::galvanized nails are good for building decks. only prablem is if you use acq treated lumber, and here is why: acq contains a pretty good amount of copper, and galvanized nails are coated with zinc. when zinc and copper meet across a solution, ie rainwater, electricity happens. it is a very tiny amount, but it is enough to eat the nails pretty quickly (from a building's pov). so they are legit, but still kind of funny and ignorant. {{User:Csours/sig}} 23:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

== Loadinating the Websites! ==

On the Irregular Loading Screen page is says that loadinate might be a reference to burninate. How can "Loadinate" not be a reference to "Burninate"?! I think it should be moved from Trivia to Inside References, but not while the ILS page says "might be". {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 15:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

== Deck-Building Sequence Stub ==

Can someone please add more detail to the Deck-Building-Sequence bit of the transcript? You know, the bit with all the hammers and stuff? I was gonna do it myself but so much happens and it's really hard and I'm too lazy. You know how it is. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 15:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
:I'll do it. Hang on a mo'. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::And now it's done. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::You missed a few details. I added them. I was working on it while you were and had an edit conflict. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 18:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

==Apothecary==

Apothecary was last mentioned in [[2 emails]]. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 18:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
: No, it wasn't. It was last mentioned in [[theme song]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:11, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
: PS. That wasn't an invitation to add it to the page. Sure, it's not a common word, but it's still a WORD. Either we should make a page for it (which I can actually see, since it's been used three times in rather unusual contexts) or just leave it be. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
::I made a page for it, but someone wants it deleted. Go to [[Apothecary]] and tell me what you think.
:::'''Update:''' The page is not being contested at this time. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

== Impossible ==

I put in the real life references, originally, though someone took it out, that the floating objects at the end are Escher-like impossible objects. Any reason why this shouldn't be there? Good ol' Escher. I didn't put it in, but he was an actual "Dutch Master" instead of a "Deutsch Master."

:Uhh, why are they impossible objects? Just because you can't have floating wood? Thats hardly incongruent with the Homestar Runner universe. Stranger things have happened. I also can't place ANY resemblence between clouds surrounded with wood to MC Escher.

::I took them out because the clouds are no impossible objects. I'm quite familiar with the works of Escher and Penrose, etc. Those clouds don't even try to be impossible in that sense. Sure, the two swirly bits point in different directions, but there is no indication that they are both supposed to sit flat on that connecting beam. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:54, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

:::In fact, the clouds are presumably in three dimensions, and not perfectly spheroid (there could easily be 'dents'). So, it's impossible to say whether or not the wood actually matches the contour of the clouds. And as it's physically impossible to line clouds with decking anyway, we must rite this off to cartoon physics anyhow. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:10, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

== Tony's pizza? ==

[[Image:Coach's Tonys.png|thumb|Coach's Tonys]]
[[Image:Tony.jpg|thumb|left|Tha actual Tony]]
I question the comparison of the Tony Award to pizza. Here's blurry photographic evidence. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:51, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

:You know, the trophies do look kinda PBTC. Mabye The Cheat counterfitted those trophies.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 12:13, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

::They're about the same level of detail as, say, the free money in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:12, 18 August 2006 (UTC)


{{clear}}

== 'uestion about 'reviation of 'kipedia ==

Hey, am I the only one wondering whether "'kipedia" was not in fact Homestar abbreviating, but the scene cutting to him mid-word? I.e. "...-kipedia" instead of "'kipedia"? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
:During the sliding transition scene, Homestar's mouth is closed. So if he was getting cut in mid-word, he was taking a little bit longer than usually between the "wick" and the "kee". - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 03:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

== itchy glitchy ==

once you get the lockers and can click the handle, you can still click where it was after the scene changes once
:yea, i had it on there and some1 deleted it.{{User:Csours/sig}} 23:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

== Is this a 10 year anniversary reference? ==

In a [[R!OT Radio Interview 1|radio interview]], Mike said:

<blockquote>... we were working in the Olympics one day in 1996, and, uh, had a day off, and were bored, and wanted to do something, so we, uh, created the, uh, characters and made a little book, and, uh, that was pretty much it. We went to Kinko's, and made about ten copies for our friends. And, uh, you know, a few years later, we, uh, we decided to make a website. Pretty much the rest is history.</blockquote>

This toon is 10 years and a few weeks from the '96 Olympics in Atlanta. So, could the "original" Homestar" appearance ("Marshmallows!") be a reference to the 10-year anniversary of the creation of Homestar Runner? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:23, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

:Hmmm, there are no marshmallows in the [[Original Book]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:31, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

::Yes, but there is that design of Homestar. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:47, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

:::Um no there isnt. That design of Homestar is around luau time. That and the orignal book Homestar are different. {{User:Dagger/sig}} 05:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Qermaq: I don't think this is it. [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006#Where do you see yourself in five years?|TBC said]] that they've been planning this for some time now. The toon is coming this month. Get ready. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 07:49, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

== Walk-Smash-Walk? ==

The building sequence seems similar to the internet cartoon, Walk-Smash-Walk. [http://newgrounds.com/portal/view/193426]

Both featured a similar graphical styling, techno music in the background, and silhouetted characters banging on nails.

I kind of think that the status as a possible reference should be on the main page. Anyone agree?

[[User:72.73.32.226|72.73.32.226]] 23:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
*Apparently, no one does. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:37, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

*I wouldn't say that the graphical styling is similar, and there's not really anyone banging on nails in the cartoon. I think that it's probably just a coincidence. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 16:03, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

*Wow, now that I watch it again, it's very similar. That's really weird. It's probably still a coincidence, though. That's really odd.... {{User:The Joe/sig}} 23:23, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

*Looking at the Homestar one again, it's really not that similar but it did totally remind me of Walk-Smash-Walk when I saw it. [[User:67.149.152.79|67.149.152.79]] 04:27, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

== It's a minor quibble, but... ==

It seems pretty clear to me that Coach Z sings "where is my mother" and not "mudder," despite what the Playbill reads.

With Coach Z's accent, you can never tell. He has never been one to pronounce "th". {{User:The Joe/sig}} 18:55, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Cardboard Marzipan? ==

Could Missy have been busy while they were doing this toon? [[User:70.153.120.35|70.153.120.35]] 17:55, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
:Possibly, maybe. We can't ever really be sure, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

well se did just have a baby
:Yeah, like, months ago... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Which would mean that she's now busy with an infant. Given that there's no real explanation for the real Marzie's absence, as in "Happy Fireworks," this seems like a reasonable guess to me, though I think you'd need some type of source for this to merit a mention in the article.
:::Still, how busy is she? Too busy to squeeze in a half hour or less of voice-over work? Doubtful. And I doubt that's the reasoning behind revisiting Cardboard Marzipan, anyway. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:22, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Ahem. What's all this, then? Would you guys kindly take this to the forum? Move along, nothing to see here.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:39, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
:I think the point of the thread was whether Missy's non-involvement was notable due to the baby. I think not. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
::Oh, then I misunderstood. I thought it was about ''why'' she was missing, which would of course be pure speculation. And you're right, Marzipan's absence isn't notable — especially not based on speculation. :-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:49, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

== Possible Error/Goof ==

When you are able to click the handle in the locker room to bring up the Playbill, you can still click that area of the screen when the shot changes to that of Coach Z with the orphan hat on. Would this count as an error? To see it just hold down tab during that entire scene.

Talk:Strongest Man in the World

2006-08-26T23:39:59Z

Zonis: Mookie Wilson

== 10 years! ==

Nice toon. I added this to the filmography of mr. bland and señor's charecter pages. I'm glad they re-did the old book. and there is another thing that I saw, when señor gets crushed, it says "sbloncheked" or what ever sb's candy bar was.
[[User:Cessna Man!|Cessna Man!]] 23:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
:I really liked this toon. It really captures the series' appeal. Who's doing the transcript for this, by the way? I hope they get done soon. We should put up pictures of Senor, Mr. Bland, etc.'s new forms on their pages. And also, Senor's voice doesn't sound like Matt's; think it could've been done by someone else?-[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 00:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:I'm almost certain that Mr. Bland was voiced by Mike. Anyone know for sure? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 01:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Plain ol' Matt's voice. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I added all the pictures, so that's done. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Not on main page? ==

Does anyone else not see this on the Main Pages? Should this be included as a Fun Fact of some kind?
:I see it there. Maybe clear your cache? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Introduction ==

The intro says that Homestar enters the contest yet again. This seems a little misleading, as the toon is a modernization, not a sequel, as the intro could imply.

:Looks like that's been changed {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Everybody Loves The Homestar Runner ==

doesnt he say "Everybody loves THE me" not "loves a'me"? that would make more sense to me. --([[User:Superplough|superplough]] not logged in) [[User:132.181.7.1|132.181.7.1]] 02:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:He does say "the me." You can go ahead and change that. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I hear a'me. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:::It's a joke. The original book says "The Homestar Runner" rather than just "Homestar Runner" so he says "the me" rather than "me". {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:05, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== Mega Man Introductions? ==

I think that Mr. Bland, Señor, and The Robot's introductions may be references to games from the [[Wikipedia:Mega_Man_(series)|Mega Man series]], in which the bosses are introduced with a snazzy background, a pose, and a sound effect before you begin their levels. Or, is this a more general reference? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:07, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:The opening to The New Leave it to Beaver Show introduced the cast in a similar fashion if I remember correctly. Can't find any substantiating images though. Does it have to be a reference? Maybe it's just a visually interesting way to introduce characters. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 02:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Slo-Mo Action That is The Matrix, Super Mario Strikers and Final Fantasy In One==

Currently, the article page says that Homestar's slo-mo kicking of The Cheat is a reference to Super Mario Strikers. I think that it's actually a reference to The Matrix.

Hmmm... I dont think its necessarily a Matrix reference...its just in slow motion. the camera doesnt rotate around Homestar like the famous "bullet time" effect usually does. To me it just looks like a bicycle kick.
- [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 02:49, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, you're probably right. But I don't think TBC would make a reference to Super Mario Strikers. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 03:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

TBC have mentioned in an Interview (can't remember which one) that they are fans of Nintendo games, it is possible that they would reference Super Mario Striker, In SMS if a player passes the ball to a teammate in front of the Goal and the recieving teammate holds down the shoot button, the game will go into slow motion and the reciving teammate will do one of many different styles of Kicks,The most popular one Being the exact same move that Homestar did on Teh C. Also regarding the fact that it may be actually a reference to The Matrix, I recall no such move being used in any of the Matrix movies, [[User:Dctcool|Dctcool]]

It actually reminded me most of Shaolin Soccer... but that could be because I just watched it today.
:It reminds me of a lot of martial arts movies, but not one in particular that springs to mind.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Does anyone have a video of that specific kick from Super Mario Strikers? {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 14:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::: I found a video on Youtube of Super Mario Strikers which features the move in question [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0xihGkfuw / SMS video review] The move happen at around the 1:10 mark

I recently removed these RWRs from the page:

*Homestar's slow-motion move (a Pele kick) seems similar to a "Slo-mo Cross Shot" from [[Wikipedia:Super_Mario_Strikers|Super Mario Strikers]].
**It could also be a reference to the "Bullet Time" sequences in [[Wikipedia:The_Matrix|The Matrix]].
***Another possibility is they modeled it after the Sphere Shot in [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]].

This seems to me to be the very definition of TTATOT. I'd be glad to entertain discussion to help settle what Homestar's move ''actually'' refers to; however, I kind of suspect it's actually just a generic fighting move and not a reference at all. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:Heh, I agree. But now that you mention the Sphere Shot...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 04:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I propose that it is a reference to Shaolin Soccer. Though, actually, like many of the most reasonable people here, I doubt it's a direct reference to -anything-. Still, that kind of manuever is done at least once, if not a few times in Shaolin Soccer, in slo-mo and everything.

It's possible that it references all 3 franchises (except the Matrix as there is no such move in any Matrix movies)

::I don't think it references a single thing. Homestar kicks the cheat around like a soccer ball with generic moves and does an out of the ordinary extra kick in slow motion to emphasize it. It might be inspired by such things but not directly referencing Shaolin Soccer, Matrix or Super Mario Strikers. The ONLY WAY it could be a reference, directly, to any of those is if the moves Homestar is doing are pretty much exactly done like those in the particular move in the game or movie. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not saying it's a referance, but is it just me, or is Homestar's flip when kicking the Cheat very similar to one of Tidus's blitzball kicks in Final Fantasy X? -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 01:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
: There are other things it's similar to as well, though - we removed it as a TTATOT fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[[Wikipedia:Image:Grabbed Frame 18.jpg|Here's a picture of the FFX kick in question.]] ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 21:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

:I'd seriously go with SMS, as the Blitzball kick seems to have a much greater range of motion, not to mention that TBC would be more inclined to reference the Nintendo game. Remember: Just because there's a possibility for TTATOT doesn't mean that it always is. This fact falls under that category; it most definitely is a reference to SOMETHING. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 21:43, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:: Yeah. It's a reference to a [[Wikipedia:Bicycle kick|Bicycle kick]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:::And the slow motion? (Super Mario Strikers is a soccer game... >_>) ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 22:01, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:::: Just to make it more dramatic (and so what? If it's a real move in soccer, and the game allows characters to perform the move, then how is that anything other than normal?) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:05, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::::: Alright. I'm not sure why no one has brought this up before, but... What really cinched it for me is the fact that the slow motion stops EXACTLY when Homestar kicks The Cheat, just like in SMS. (Any FFX guys wanna take a stand on this?) ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 16:32, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

==I still alive?==
I think Senor says "I see the light!" Instead of "I still alive"! I see the light is much funnier. The Chaps would go for I See The Light!-Me
: I hear "I still alive," funny or not. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:I originally thought it was "i see the light", but i think "I still alive" makes more sense with the way he waves his hand up through the grapes. And his bad grammar does fit with hes dialect. -[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 02:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
: I was just about to add a discussion on this line. I hear, "I ''feel'' alive!" His accent is a little hard to decipher, so I don't see this ending well. Prepare for weeks of arguing...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::FWIW, the first time I heard it I heard "I steel alive!" and it was hilarious. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I heard "I steel alive" [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[[Media:Alive.ogg|The first quote in question]]--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I heard "I see de light!" {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 03:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::It is clearly "I steel alive" {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
After watching it a few timew I thought that it was I see de light [[User:Smallowman|Smallowman]] 04:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::I hear "I still alive!", too.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:56, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"I still alive!" —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::"I still alive!" - {{User:Kookykman/sig}} 23:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::He's still alive; I hear "I still alive" - {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 16:40 23 August 2006
:::::::::: I hear "I feel alive!". If it is actually "I feel alive", might it be a reference to "I FEEL ASLEEP"? :/ {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 23:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
It sounds like "I feel alive" to me, but I think it's just his accent so I think "I still alive". {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:31, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Ah well. Let us hope that the [[The Brothers Chaps|Almighty Ones]] shall hear our cry and bestow upon us a [[QotW]]... {{User:Raised by Coffee/sig}} 16:03, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== All right, you crap-for-brains ==

What is it that the Grape Fairie is saying in his first line. I can't tell what it is, but it doesn't sound anything like "stupid" to me. Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:My first guess is "sorry brains", but I'm not sure enough to change the transcript.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Perhaps "slowest brains"? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:: ive just listeend to it a bunch of times and im pretty sure its just one syllable. kinda sounds like "All right you slows brains". Im not really hearing the 2 sylables of slowest and not the "ee" sound of sorry. But yea definatly not "stupid brains" -[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 03:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[[Media:Listenup.ogg|The second quote in question]]--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::sounds like: " i'm ready, so you'se brains listen up smart " possibly calling them brains in conjunction with listen up smart. {{User:Csours/sig}} 03:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Do you have headphones or speakers, Csours? I'm curious. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Ohhh yeah, "slows brains" kind of works! I was looking for something that rhymes/sounds like "stoes brains," and I think that's it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::speakers. i know headphones are better, i just havent got any yet. also i put it on loop on my sound editor and listened to it like 100 times.{{User:Csours/sig}} 14:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

How about 'doze brains'?

:It sounds like "booze brains" to me, but, not likely. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 22:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Unplugged? ==

The first fun fact credits the show MTV Unplugged with the creation of the term unplugged. I think (and am researching) that the term predates the show. [[User:Mila|Mila]] 03:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:"Unplugged" dates back to the beginnings of elictricity. But as a description of music played without extra amplification, MTV gets the credit. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

The unplugged fact is credited both to MTV and Eric Clapton in different sections, which is kind of contradicting itself. One or the other should be taken out.
===Teh Proof===
Quotes from the Oxford English dictionary:
*New York Times, 21 April 1957
*:The return of the unplugged guitar gets another boost from George Van Eps, who was supplying rhythmic chords to jazz groups long before voltage came into fashion.
*Washington Post, 26 December 1986
*:Nils Lofgren unplugged is still Nils Lofgren the musician... Lofgren will give a rare acoustic concert at the Bayou tomorrow.
*Toronto Star, 6 October 1989
*:The simple, six-string folk rhythms of several songs here..owe some of their sincere appeal to the unplugged colors of Tracy Chapman's music.
MTV Unplugged first aired on 26 November, 1989. Lexicography saves the day again! --[[User:60.228.144.21|60.228.144.21]] 08:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:Nice catch... I've reworded the fact to say that MTV popularised it, but didn't coin it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

==hacky sack vs footbag==

in the transcript, it says that homestar kicks the cheat around like a hacky sack. this is a brand name. footbag is the generic term.{{User:Csours/sig}} 03:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
: I never play with hackysacks or footbags, but I don't know anyone who would know what you mean if you say footbag [[User:Inverse Tiger|Inverse Tiger]] 04:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I've never heard the word "footbag", either. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Ditto--I've heard them called hacky sacks for 20 years (or thereabouts), but I've never heard footbags. It may be a brand name, but it's pretty much been adopted as a generic term (like with Levis or Kleenex).--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I've never heard of a footbag ''or'' a hacky sack. Does that mean I'm stupid? [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 12:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I've never heard Levis used as a generic term... --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 15:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Actually, the way he kicks it also looks like the way you can bounce a ball in soccer.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Other examples are a coke, scotch tape, or band-aids where the brand name are the most commonly used versions. I added this as a trivia item a few days ago {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:16, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

== Page Title ==

Is "The Homestar Runner Enters the Longest Page Title on the Website Contest!" actually the longest page title on the website? [[User:!!|!!]]

: [[User talk:William | Shall we find out?]] [[User:William|William]] 04:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I did my own search by looking up "Page title" on the wiki's search bar and looking through each selection. Turns out this toon doesn't win. See the fun facts for the true winner. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 05:30, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Wretched Simmons Outfit ==

Homestar's spandex workout uniform is from the Lady Fan E-mail.
:Yep, that's already mentioned there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Enough with the golbol! ==

Alright already! I see that it's captioned as GOLBOL in the Easter egg. I can accept that many, if not all, characters pronounce it "golbol". But, for the love of all that is humane, can we PLEASE use "gold bowl" or "trophy" when we are describing it? Please, oh please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Since you asked so nicely... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:: Actually, in the 'toon version, it's never once referred to as a "trophy" or "gold bowl", and only once as just simply a "bowl". Why not call it "Golbol"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Because it sounds ridiculous...? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::[[Suudsu]]. [[The Denzel]]. [[Lord Quackingstick]]. We don't describe these every time they appear after being named, but they have ridiculous names as well. This is a site about silly cartoon animal people. Keep your sense of humor about you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::From another edit just made on another page, I'm reminded of another such case: [[The Geddup Noise]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I wonder, though, if in the Fun Facts the word golbol would be better placed in quotes, since it's not a real word?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Jay, those are established more solidly than this. The spelling "golbol" is solely from an egg which in all likelihood is just a joke in itself on the characters' pronunciation. As Dorian put in an edit summary, it makes it look like we're a bunch of turkeys. This is a knowledge base, not a poultry farm. We should use an odd spelling when it's needed, but not when it doesn't add to meaning. Suudzu - how else would you spell it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::We had a bit of conversation over this, and it was determined that I would transcribe it as "Golbol". Sorry if there's been any confusion. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 12:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::"More solidly?" Lord Quackingstick's name is mentioned all of once. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Sure. Strong Bad unquestionably says "Quackingstick". It's a duck on a stick, the name makes perfect sense. Here, we are transcribing a word based on Homestar's and The Grape Faerie's accents, which we never do. The only supporting evidence is the egg, which could easily be itself making a joke about how those two pronounced it. I mean, concensus will win, and I can see the argument for, but I'm of the mind we ought not do this in the transcript. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Doesn't spelling it out in the Easter egg as they did carry a lot of weight, just as if Strong Bad had typed it or if it were featured as a Quote of the Week? I mean, it sure ''sounds'' like they're saying "golbol" and not "gold bowl" to me, so there's not the problem of the two not matching. Oh, to add to Jay's list of examples: "zader matermorts". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yeah, but that's only because of the Easter egg. Do you really think you would transcribe it as "golbol" if you hadn't seen it? Also, you guys are making a big deal out of it. Just because it's listed as "GOLBOL" doesn't mean that it wouldn't be "''the'' golbol" otherwise. And just typing out "golbol" makes me queasy. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 22:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::No, if it weren't for the Easter egg, then there's no way I would transcribe it "golbol"... but there ''is'' the Easter egg. Are we just supposed to ignore it? In fact, I can't see any reason for the Easter egg's existence other than to give the correct spelling of the trophy's name. I therefore have no problem with calling it "the golbol" in the transcript, and in fact we may should call it "the Golbol" (a proper noun). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::'''EDIT CONFLICT X2 (Darn you!):''' Yeah, but would it kill you to refer to it as "the gold bowl"? Besides, I hear "gold bowl" the first time it's mentioned, but unless we want to get in [[User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings|here]], I suggest we get a clear consensus. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 23:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think the reason for the Easter egg is to be funny, not to tell us how to spell "gold bowl" in the HRWiki. That's a little presumptuous! And again, "zarer matermorts" was given as a direct transcription,. so that is clear. We don't know WHAT "golbol" was given for. I don't think it's appropriate to just speculate it's how to spell "gold bowl". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::Hang on... what's funny about the Easter egg? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:24, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't hear the D in "goldbol". Therefore, I say it's Golbol. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
: Agreed. I hear none of the characters use the "D" when they refer to it. They also don't break up the words. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::I only hope TBC will [[Talk:Summer Short Shorts#Excuse Me While I Kiss This Guy|hear our cry]] and make it a QotW. Although, even then, it might still be ambiguous. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 16:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
i hear no '''d'''. therefore it is '''GOLBOL'''
:I agree, putting it as "golbol" does look kind of funny. But the precidents mentioned above have been long set (As well as "[[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy|H'whatcha teekenbot]]"), that we call/spell things how The Brothers Chaps do. If they decided to make a Quote of the Week, and spell it "Gold Bowl" or something, I would be partial to that spelling, but as the evidence currently stands, we have to go with "Golbol" {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:51, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== Strongest Man in the World Poster ==

If I am not mistaken, it features the "Big Beefy Arm" from Trogdor fame.
:I think it's just a generic beefy arm. Y'know, coz it's a strength contest and all. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I agree, just a generic arm.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:28, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:: I thought it looked like the same beefy arms from [[Dragon]], too. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== LotR reference? ==

It's a stretch, but I thought I'd bring it up here. When Pom Pom has the trophy at the end, Homestar says he should give it to him for his birthday, which of course was today. This is like when Gollum's friend got the Ring and Gollum demanded it for his birthday, which was that day. Of course Homestar didn't kill Pom Pom... but could they be related? I don't feel sure enough about it to add it without some agreement [[User:Inverse Tiger|Inverse Tiger]] 04:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No offense, but is there a single line in all of H*R which isn't a reference, by this standard? Anonymous has spoken. [[User:89.1.17.101|89.1.17.101]] 04:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::OK, anonymous, there's no need to be insistent. But I do think you're right that this reference is a stretch. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:D-d-definitely, definitely a stretch [[User:Jetpac|Jetpac]] 05:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Extra Sauce? ==

I think that Homestar acutally says "Extra Sauce" instead of exercise.
:I heard Extracise
:: Me too, though I thought of it as "Extrasize". --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Correction--the first incident, it sounds like "extra size", the second it sounds like he says "pour on that extra sauce".--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I'll second that.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::sounds like extro-sauze to me, but it could easily be both. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
I heard "extracise", as in excercise and extra put together. Extracise. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:42, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pure Pwnage Reference ==

Okay, this is DEFINITELY a reference, stop deleting it. I will make my case clear here.

Pure Pwnage is a somewhat popular internet-show. They did an episode where the main character sat at a desk with a Compy 386 and answered emails EXACTLY like Strong Bad does. Naturally, someone pointed this out to TBC and they threw him a bone by making this reference:
When Strong Bad writes to Homestar telling him he can achieve anything and then stops and says "you're a butt", this is a reference to the episode of Pure Pwnage (which references Strong Bad Emails) where Jeremy answers emails like Strong Bad and he tells someone who professes to 'like boys more than girls' that he should stay true to who he is and then erases it and writes "u r a fag".
Clearly these are the exact same principle. Starting out telling someone that they can 'acheve anything' and 'stay true to who you are' and then saying to them "you're a butt" or "u r a fag" is a TOTAL DIRECT reference. They cant use the word "fag" on Homestar Runner, and Strong Bad wouldnt write "u r" They abbreviated the best they could.
:Except that kind of joke is as old as the hills.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Character ''x'' does something absurdly out of character, realises what s/he's doing, stops, and reverts back to in character. This isn't exactly a new formula. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, sorry, agree with the people above me. Not a reference. It's just Strong Bad signing 50 autographs in a row without looking up, then realizing he's signing one for Homestar.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Agreed. This is not worth getting on a soapbox over. It's an old joke. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:I don't know. Personally, the reference kind of makes sense to me...[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:25, 23 August 2006

== Down Goes Bland ==

Someone is out to take out all of my references that are blazingly clear here, so i'm gonna write another discussion one.
"Down goes Bland" is a reference to Howard Cosell's ringside calling of the Foreman Vs Frazier fight where when George Foreman won, Howard Cosell repeatedly shouted "Down goes Frazier!"
C'mon, its a competition, one of them goes down and they yell "Down Goes <Last Name>"
What more do you want Phlip?!
:Maybe, but there are only so many ways to say that a competitor is down, after all.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Given there are over 350,000 Google results for "Down goes" and only 10,000 for "Down goes Frazier", I don't think Frazier owns this phrase. Even after allowing for the number of false positives of a shorter search string, and other refereneces to Frazier's fight, 35x the results is a lot. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::When are you going to refine a search and come up with MORE results? Your logic is perplexing to say the least. I have seen a lot more obscure things go up on this wiki. --Your Fuzzy God
::::I'm saying that if "Down goes" was actually a reference to Frazier, then a reasonable portion of the results for "Down goes" would also be results for "Down goes Frazier". As it is, less than 4% are. So "Down goes Frazier" cannot be considered the only possible source for the phrase, and once that is considered we have [[TTATOT]]. It's not a question of obscurity, it's a question of "How do we know it's this, and not something else?". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:21, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:When Homestar says "Watch your language" to Pom Pom it's a direct reference to The Lion King when Timon says that to Pumbaa!!!11111one OMG FASCISM!! ... seriously, no. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Golbol Easter Egg ==

The section about the Easter Egg says that the logo in the background of the golbol belongs to the New York Yankees.

In fact, it belongs to the New York Mets. (Mookie Wilson played for the Mets) {{unsigned|68.203.142.206|12:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)}}

:Thanks for point this out, but a hint for next time – if you see a clear mistake in the article, you don't need to tell us about it, just go in and fix it... taking it to the talk page is generally only necessary if you're not sure, or others don't agree. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

::That may all be well and good, but is it more than a coincidence that this toon came out just after the "Yankees finish historic sweep of Red Sox"? It would seem that would be rewarded with a gold bowl.

::: It is a coincidence. It's not a Yankees logo.

:::: Correct. The Mets and Yankees both have "NY" in their logos but they are arranged very distinctly. See the page backgrounds [http://www.mets.com/ here] and [http://www.yankees.com here] to compare the logos (in fact, it almost looks like the Mets logo in the Easter Egg could have been taken directly from the Mets website -- notice the angle!). But on a related note, does anyone think that it's worthy of note as trivia in the article that two days before this toon appeared on the site, Mookie Wilson (who has barely ever been in the news since the Mets won the World Series in 1986) appeared at a big ceremony at the Mets stadium with many of his '86 comrades marking the 20th anniversary of the championship and that Wilson was the one to speak on behalf of all the players present in accepting the honor? [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 23:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

::::: Here is an [http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060819&content_id=1618842&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym article] about Saturday's ceremony. Mookie Wilson is shown in the accompanying picture. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[[Image:Mets logos.png|thumb|[[Wikipedia:New York Mets|Mets]] logos]]
:::::: I still don't see the Logo anywhere, where exactly is it in the toon!! Am I just blind?
:::::::It's in the background of the Easter egg accessed at the end of the toon by clicking on the trophy. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::: I still don't see it, all I see is just a plain red backround with a trophy on it and GOLBOL next to it.
:::::::::May be a problem with your Flash player, your monitor, or (no offense) your eyes. They're pretty clear. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:03, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::: Just tell me where it is in this picture? http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Golbol.PNG
::::::::::: I opened that file in paint and whited out the solid red portions, producing [[:Image:GoldBowlWhiteWash.PNG|this]]. The big blobs are where the Mets logos are. Compare to the original picture. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::: Or, from another viewpoint, [[:Image:GoldBowlGreenNY.PNG|this one]] has all of the logos repainted green (very roughly, as their colors aren't perfectly solid, but it's close enough to get the general idea.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::See the image above for a clearer view. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== hewwo ==

he doesn't normally mispronounce l's

:Hmm... He does on every single main page...Just scroll over email. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 17:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

==Stong Bad vs. Strond Bad==
When I looked at the autograph egg, Strong Bad's inscription is signed "Strond Ba... wait a sec" instead of "Stong" as is mentioned in the transcript. It's possible that this will change randomly, I suppose, although I checked it a couple of times (in different windows) and it remains "Strond". I hesitate to change it, though, because TBC have done random stuff before, so maybe someone else can see what they get. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 14:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Fowl/Foul Language ==
Since Pom Pom only speaks in bubbles, we can never really know what he is saying. But from the reaction of Homestar and Strong Bad, not to mention Homestar's comment of toning the language down... couldn't this be considered the first time TBC actually have one of their characters use curse words? I mean we know they were always wanting to do that one day? ;)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:[[Swears]]. Sorry to crush your hopes and dreams! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

:{edit conflict} You mean apart from the ones listed in [[Swears]]? And it would also be possible for him to say something very nasty without actually using swear words. So it's really just speculation. Either way, looking at Strong Bad's expression, it must have been pretty tough stuff. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::That's typical "character you can't understand" behavior. I think it was done with The Cheat multiple times before. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:Um...... wow. I wasn't aware of the Swears page! lol. Yeah, and uh, apparently I haven't noticed all those other times they borderline'd it on cursing! lol.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Voice connections ==

Ok, so 1) Mr. Bland sounds a lot like Mike or Matt. And 2) The Grape Faerie sounds like a Bronx version of Homestar. Well, they're noted on this talk page now. These observations, and ones like them, aren't really relevant to the toon, and should remain off the main toon page. What could be blander than doing ''no'' voice impression at all for Mr. Bland? And certainly it's possible that some of Matt's voices will sound alike in some way—they're all coming out of the same mouth, dontcha know—so these are unnotable. Thanks for your time, and keep on tranglin'. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:Agree. Thanks, Qer. It's Matt, btw everybody. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:11, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::Do you actually have something to substantiate that, or did you just want the last word? I'm inclined to believe that it's Matt too due to similarities to voices like "[[Blue_Laser_Babies|The Twins]]" and Strong bad saying "[[brianrietta|I remember the time when I checked my e-mail]]", but I don't understand why you'd state that so matter-of-factly, unless you had some other information the rest of us weren't aware of. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 23:14, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Homestar? ==

According to the transcript, The Announcer says "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Homestar", but every time I listen to it, I hear "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-Dunce" (or possibly "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-Loser"), which would also explain Homestar's suprised look. --[[User:81.94.65.69|81.94.65.69]] 05:56, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:He could just be surprised coz he doesn't get a good introduction, like the minor characters do. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:: He's just rushing it when he says it. He seems to rush Homestar's name most of all, adding to the confusion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I slowed it down and listened closely - the "and" is more of a "'n'", and the "ar" at the end of "Homestar" is nearly missing entirely, but it's very definately "Homestar". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:50, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Would be cool if you could put a slowed down version of that soundbite online for the audio-technically stupid like me ;-) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:I heard it 3 times (with earbuds), and he clearly said "Doofus". [[User:Stomhar|Stomhar]]
::[[:Image:ShortIntroduction-SMITW.ogg|Yes, you're right.]] ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:14, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
:::<strike>I've got yer ogg file on loop, The Mu, and I can't hear "doofus" at all. For me, it seems to start with "n", not "d". {{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:29, 24 August 2006 (UTC)</strike> OK, that was probably the shortened "and".{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:32, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I listened to the 'toon itself, and I heard "Homestar", but it's obscured by the raspberry sound of the spotlight and his speed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::After listening to that slowed down version a hundred or so times, I believe it's either "doofus-a" or "Homestar". "Homestar" seems much more likely. The Mu, you should probably not have gone ahead and changed the transcript before waiting for reactions here. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:41, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::I don't hear "doofus" at all. I hear "Homest–", with the end of Homestar's name not very pronounced (if at all), but it ''is'' his name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:21, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't appear as if anyone wants this changed on the transcript, so I'll leave it alone; but it sounds to me like "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Dumpface". I'm not sure if I'm the only one who thinks this, but it's not the first time Homestar has been called Dumpface (however, Doofus could work also). -Some Guy

I'ma gonna try to settle this issue once and for all. I ran noise reduction on the audio to try and eliminate the "squish" noise that obscures the names. It sounds to me that the announcer is saying "Pom-Pom, Strong Bad, '''Loser'''." Give a listen yourself! [http://home.comcast.net/~mikepontillo/audio/original.wav Original audio] [http://home.comcast.net/~mikepontillo/audio/withNR.wav Processed audio] --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 17:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

:To me, the processed one sounds no different than mine (when I slow it down in Audacity.) ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 18:04, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

:Hmmm. I slowed it down as well, and I'm thinking you're right, The Mu. It does sound like "doofus." So much for settling the issue! --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 18:46, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

::I've listened to the original recording, a slowed-down recording, a speeded-up recording, and the processed recordings above, and not once have I heard anything resembling a /d/ or /f/ sound (both of which would be required for "doofus"), even when I'm specifically listening for them and trying to convince my brain that they're there in the hopes of discerning them. Honestly, I don't know why this one is being picked apart like it is. If it sounds like he ''might'' be saying "Homestar" (which it certainly does to me, every time), and his saying "Homestar" makes sense in the context (again, which it does), and he had no reason ''not'' to be saying "Homestar" (which why would he? The announcer has nothing againt Homestar), then I think it's [[Wikipedia:Occam's razor#Variations|safe to conclude]] that that's what he really is saying. The joke is just that the names are hurried instead of featured, nothing else. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:27, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

::I use Audacity as well for much of my sound endeavours (I do voice-overs) and though I was pretty certain he said "And.... Pom-Pom, Strongbad, and Homestar." I went and decreased the tempo to about 30% (30-40% is about the most you can slow it down without it sounding too choppy). The Mu, I would suggest you amplify the last part in your clip and listen to it again. It is my humble opinion that he definitely says "Homestar." Whether he says "and" or "n" immediately before that is unclear to me but I would surmise it's more of an "n" since this line is very difficult to say fast.--The Shadow

== I hear there's a pretty big wine building up? ==

I'm not sure this could be put in the article since Homestar's talk is converted into English talk in the transcript. But anyway it's a joke I think many overlooked.

Strong Bad says: "There's a pretty big line building up over there." and Homestar then says, according to the current transcript: "I hear there's a pretty big line building up." It's the tradition here to make abstraction of Homestar's accent when transcribing his dialogue. But what we actually hear instead of "line" sounds much more like "wine".

Considering that the contest involves lifting giant grapes, "I hear there's a pretty big wine building up." would be the kind of line only Homestar could have. I'm sure it's not the first time TBC made a joke where Homestar's distorted talk innocently resulted in a clever pun that fits the situation. -[[User:Vltone|Vltone]] 09:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

:Homestar has twoubles with his l's as well. See [[Talk:Strongest Man in the World#hewwo|above]]. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 07:48, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

::That was my point. He misspronounces his l's and that's why in that case he inadvertently ends up saying something else that happens to fit the context. -[[User:Vltone|Vltone]] 09:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

:::Coincidence. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 10:23, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

::::Actually, I hear "vine", not "wine". That's pretty strong, even for Homestar. But I don't believe that it's a reference to the grapes.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 11:05, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== "arm"y man ==

in the remarks section is says
*When Homestar holds up the grapes, they float as if he's controlling them with his mind rather than with invisible arms.
**Homestar's invisible arms are also emphasized in the high-five scene.

Which is it? At best the two sentences do no relate. The first says that his lask of visible arms are not involved while the second says that they are. I personally don't see how mind controlling has anything to with it. The H*R universe just has weird physics because...well, its a cartoon. If we were documenting a Road Runner cartoon and Wiley Coyotee ran off a cliff but didn't fall, would we note that he suspended himself off the cliff with mind power?

Think that this whole thing about mind power is out of line, things just balance differently in the H*R universe. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:14, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
:I think putting them both together in this way makes it deliberately ambiguous. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Various Minor Differences ==

In the original book:

1. Strong Bad appeared behind Homestar and Pom Pom instead of in front on the way to the contest.

2. Senor was holding his grapes with his right hand, not his left.

3. The Robot's cord was on an actual wall, not just a tiny piece of one.

4. Pom Pom's eyes were closed at the end when he was holding the trophy, not open (when it fades to the OB, his eyes change).

Any of these worth mentioning? -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 17:02, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

:I think that when dealing with a remake, these kind of differences are bound to happen. All in all, the toon was really close to the original, so I don't think this kind of nitpicking is in order. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:10, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

== Senor's grapes ==

I count 20 grapes when Senor falls down.

But since he started with 20, then one was added, where's the last?

== Mookie Wilson ==

If Mookie Wilson gave the Grape Fairy in 1974, then Mookie would have been 18. Wilson did not join the Mets organization until 1977, when he was 21, and the Mets big league club itself in 1980.

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Zonis: Senor's grapes

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Zonis: /* Golbol Easter Egg */

== 10 years! ==

Nice toon. I added this to the filmography of mr. bland and señor's charecter pages. I'm glad they re-did the old book. and there is another thing that I saw, when señor gets crushed, it says "sbloncheked" or what ever sb's candy bar was.
[[User:Cessna Man!|Cessna Man!]] 23:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
:I really liked this toon. It really captures the series' appeal. Who's doing the transcript for this, by the way? I hope they get done soon. We should put up pictures of Senor, Mr. Bland, etc.'s new forms on their pages. And also, Senor's voice doesn't sound like Matt's; think it could've been done by someone else?-[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 00:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:I'm almost certain that Mr. Bland was voiced by Mike. Anyone know for sure? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 01:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Plain ol' Matt's voice. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I added all the pictures, so that's done. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Not on main page? ==

Does anyone else not see this on the Main Pages? Should this be included as a Fun Fact of some kind?
:I see it there. Maybe clear your cache? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Introduction ==

The intro says that Homestar enters the contest yet again. This seems a little misleading, as the toon is a modernization, not a sequel, as the intro could imply.

:Looks like that's been changed {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Everybody Loves The Homestar Runner ==

doesnt he say "Everybody loves THE me" not "loves a'me"? that would make more sense to me. --([[User:Superplough|superplough]] not logged in) [[User:132.181.7.1|132.181.7.1]] 02:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:He does say "the me." You can go ahead and change that. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I hear a'me. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Mega Man Introductions? ==

I think that Mr. Bland, Señor, and The Robot's introductions may be references to games from the [[Wikipedia:Mega_Man_(series)|Mega Man series]], in which the bosses are introduced with a snazzy background, a pose, and a sound effect before you begin their levels. Or, is this a more general reference? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:07, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:The opening to The New Leave it to Beaver Show introduced the cast in a similar fashion if I remember correctly. Can't find any substantiating images though. Does it have to be a reference? Maybe it's just a visually interesting way to introduce characters. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 02:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Slo-Mo Action That is The Matrix, Super Mario Strikers and Final Fantasy In One==

Currently, the article page says that Homestar's slo-mo kicking of The Cheat is a reference to Super Mario Strikers. I think that it's actually a reference to The Matrix.

Hmmm... I dont think its necessarily a Matrix reference...its just in slow motion. the camera doesnt rotate around Homestar like the famous "bullet time" effect usually does. To me it just looks like a bicycle kick.
- [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 02:49, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, you're probably right. But I don't think TBC would make a reference to Super Mario Strikers. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 03:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

TBC have mentioned in an Interview (can't remember which one) that they are fans of Nintendo games, it is possible that they would reference Super Mario Striker, In SMS if a player passes the ball to a teammate in front of the Goal and the recieving teammate holds down the shoot button, the game will go into slow motion and the reciving teammate will do one of many different styles of Kicks,The most popular one Being the exact same move that Homestar did on Teh C. Also regarding the fact that it may be actually a reference to The Matrix, I recall no such move being used in any of the Matrix movies, [[User:Dctcool|Dctcool]]

It actually reminded me most of Shaolin Soccer... but that could be because I just watched it today.
:It reminds me of a lot of martial arts movies, but not one in particular that springs to mind.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Does anyone have a video of that specific kick from Super Mario Strikers? {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 14:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::: I found a video on Youtube of Super Mario Strikers which features the move in question [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0xihGkfuw / SMS video review] The move happen at around the 1:10 mark

I recently removed these RWRs from the page:

*Homestar's slow-motion move (a Pele kick) seems similar to a "Slo-mo Cross Shot" from [[Wikipedia:Super_Mario_Strikers|Super Mario Strikers]].
**It could also be a reference to the "Bullet Time" sequences in [[Wikipedia:The_Matrix|The Matrix]].
***Another possibility is they modeled it after the Sphere Shot in [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]].

This seems to me to be the very definition of TTATOT. I'd be glad to entertain discussion to help settle what Homestar's move ''actually'' refers to; however, I kind of suspect it's actually just a generic fighting move and not a reference at all. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:Heh, I agree. But now that you mention the Sphere Shot...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 04:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I propose that it is a reference to Shaolin Soccer. Though, actually, like many of the most reasonable people here, I doubt it's a direct reference to -anything-. Still, that kind of manuever is done at least once, if not a few times in Shaolin Soccer, in slo-mo and everything.

It's possible that it references all 3 franchises (except the Matrix as there is no such move in any Matrix movies)

::I don't think it references a single thing. Homestar kicks the cheat around like a soccer ball with generic moves and does an out of the ordinary extra kick in slow motion to emphasize it. It might be inspired by such things but not directly referencing Shaolin Soccer, Matrix or Super Mario Strikers. The ONLY WAY it could be a reference, directly, to any of those is if the moves Homestar is doing are pretty much exactly done like those in the particular move in the game or movie. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not saying it's a referance, but is it just me, or is Homestar's flip when kicking the Cheat very similar to one of Tidus's blitzball kicks in Final Fantasy X? -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 01:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
: There are other things it's similar to as well, though - we removed it as a TTATOT fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[[Wikipedia:Image:Grabbed Frame 18.jpg|Here's a picture of the FFX kick in question.]] ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 21:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

:I'd seriously go with SMS, as the Blitzball kick seems to have a much greater range of motion, not to mention that TBC would be more inclined to reference the Nintendo game. Remember: Just because there's a possibility for TTATOT doesn't mean that it always is. This fact falls under that category; it most definitely is a reference to SOMETHING. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 21:43, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:: Yeah. It's a reference to a [[Wikipedia:Bicycle kick|Bicycle kick]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:::And the slow motion? (Super Mario Strikers is a soccer game... >_>) ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 22:01, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:::: Just to make it more dramatic (and so what? If it's a real move in soccer, and the game allows characters to perform the move, then how is that anything other than normal?) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:05, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

==I still alive?==
I think Senor says "I see the light!" Instead of "I still alive"! I see the light is much funnier. The Chaps would go for I See The Light!-Me
: I hear "I still alive," funny or not. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:I originally thought it was "i see the light", but i think "I still alive" makes more sense with the way he waves his hand up through the grapes. And his bad grammar does fit with hes dialect. -[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 02:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
: I was just about to add a discussion on this line. I hear, "I ''feel'' alive!" His accent is a little hard to decipher, so I don't see this ending well. Prepare for weeks of arguing...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::FWIW, the first time I heard it I heard "I steel alive!" and it was hilarious. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I heard "I steel alive" [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[[Media:Alive.ogg|The first quote in question]]--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I heard "I see de light!" {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 03:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::It is clearly "I steel alive" {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
After watching it a few timew I thought that it was I see de light [[User:Smallowman|Smallowman]] 04:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::I hear "I still alive!", too.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:56, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"I still alive!" —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::"I still alive!" - {{User:Kookykman/sig}} 23:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::He's still alive; I hear "I still alive" - {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 16:40 23 August 2006

== All right, you crap-for-brains ==

What is it that the Grape Fairie is saying in his first line. I can't tell what it is, but it doesn't sound anything like "stupid" to me. Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:My first guess is "sorry brains", but I'm not sure enough to change the transcript.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Perhaps "slowest brains"? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:: ive just listeend to it a bunch of times and im pretty sure its just one syllable. kinda sounds like "All right you slows brains". Im not really hearing the 2 sylables of slowest and not the "ee" sound of sorry. But yea definatly not "stupid brains" -[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 03:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[[Media:Listenup.ogg|The second quote in question]]--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::sounds like: " i'm ready, so you'se brains listen up smart " possibly calling them brains in conjunction with listen up smart. {{User:Csours/sig}} 03:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Do you have headphones or speakers, Csours? I'm curious. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Ohhh yeah, "slows brains" kind of works! I was looking for something that rhymes/sounds like "stoes brains," and I think that's it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::speakers. i know headphones are better, i just havent got any yet. also i put it on loop on my sound editor and listened to it like 100 times.{{User:Csours/sig}} 14:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

How about 'doze brains'?

== Unplugged? ==

The first fun fact credits the show MTV Unplugged with the creation of the term unplugged. I think (and am researching) that the term predates the show. [[User:Mila|Mila]] 03:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:"Unplugged" dates back to the beginnings of elictricity. But as a description of music played without extra amplification, MTV gets the credit. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

The unplugged fact is credited both to MTV and Eric Clapton in different sections, which is kind of contradicting itself. One or the other should be taken out.
===Teh Proof===
Quotes from the Oxford English dictionary:
*New York Times, 21 April 1957
*:The return of the unplugged guitar gets another boost from George Van Eps, who was supplying rhythmic chords to jazz groups long before voltage came into fashion.
*Washington Post, 26 December 1986
*:Nils Lofgren unplugged is still Nils Lofgren the musician... Lofgren will give a rare acoustic concert at the Bayou tomorrow.
*Toronto Star, 6 October 1989
*:The simple, six-string folk rhythms of several songs here..owe some of their sincere appeal to the unplugged colors of Tracy Chapman's music.
MTV Unplugged first aired on 26 November, 1989. Lexicography saves the day again! --[[User:60.228.144.21|60.228.144.21]] 08:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:Nice catch... I've reworded the fact to say that MTV popularised it, but didn't coin it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

==hacky sack vs footbag==

in the transcript, it says that homestar kicks the cheat around like a hacky sack. this is a brand name. footbag is the generic term.{{User:Csours/sig}} 03:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
: I never play with hackysacks or footbags, but I don't know anyone who would know what you mean if you say footbag [[User:Inverse Tiger|Inverse Tiger]] 04:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I've never heard the word "footbag", either. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Ditto--I've heard them called hacky sacks for 20 years (or thereabouts), but I've never heard footbags. It may be a brand name, but it's pretty much been adopted as a generic term (like with Levis or Kleenex).--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I've never heard of a footbag ''or'' a hacky sack. Does that mean I'm stupid? [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 12:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I've never heard Levis used as a generic term... --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 15:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Actually, the way he kicks it also looks like the way you can bounce a ball in soccer.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Page Title ==

Is "The Homestar Runner Enters the Longest Page Title on the Website Contest!" actually the longest page title on the website? [[User:!!|!!]]

: [[User talk:William | Shall we find out?]] [[User:William|William]] 04:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I did my own search by looking up "Page title" on the wiki's search bar and looking through each selection. Turns out this toon doesn't win. See the fun facts for the true winner. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 05:30, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Wretched Simmons Outfit ==

Homestar's spandex workout uniform is from the Lady Fan E-mail.
:Yep, that's already mentioned there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Enough with the golbol! ==

Alright already! I see that it's captioned as GOLBOL in the Easter egg. I can accept that many, if not all, characters pronounce it "golbol". But, for the love of all that is humane, can we PLEASE use "gold bowl" or "trophy" when we are describing it? Please, oh please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Since you asked so nicely... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:: Actually, in the 'toon version, it's never once referred to as a "trophy" or "gold bowl", and only once as just simply a "bowl". Why not call it "Golbol"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Because it sounds ridiculous...? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::[[Suudsu]]. [[The Denzel]]. [[Lord Quackingstick]]. We don't describe these every time they appear after being named, but they have ridiculous names as well. This is a site about silly cartoon animal people. Keep your sense of humor about you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::From another edit just made on another page, I'm reminded of another such case: [[The Geddup Noise]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I wonder, though, if in the Fun Facts the word golbol would be better placed in quotes, since it's not a real word?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Jay, those are established more solidly than this. The spelling "golbol" is solely from an egg which in all likelihood is just a joke in itself on the characters' pronunciation. As Dorian put in an edit summary, it makes it look like we're a bunch of turkeys. This is a knowledge base, not a poultry farm. We should use an odd spelling when it's needed, but not when it doesn't add to meaning. Suudzu - how else would you spell it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::We had a bit of conversation over this, and it was determined that I would transcribe it as "Golbol". Sorry if there's been any confusion. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 12:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::"More solidly?" Lord Quackingstick's name is mentioned all of once. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Sure. Strong Bad unquestionably says "Quackingstick". It's a duck on a stick, the name makes perfect sense. Here, we are transcribing a word based on Homestar's and The Grape Faerie's accents, which we never do. The only supporting evidence is the egg, which could easily be itself making a joke about how those two pronounced it. I mean, concensus will win, and I can see the argument for, but I'm of the mind we ought not do this in the transcript. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Doesn't spelling it out in the Easter egg as they did carry a lot of weight, just as if Strong Bad had typed it or if it were featured as a Quote of the Week? I mean, it sure ''sounds'' like they're saying "golbol" and not "gold bowl" to me, so there's not the problem of the two not matching. Oh, to add to Jay's list of examples: "zader matermorts". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yeah, but that's only because of the Easter egg. Do you really think you would transcribe it as "golbol" if you hadn't seen it? Also, you guys are making a big deal out of it. Just because it's listed as "GOLBOL" doesn't mean that it wouldn't be "''the'' golbol" otherwise. And just typing out "golbol" makes me queasy. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 22:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::No, if it weren't for the Easter egg, then there's no way I would transcribe it "golbol"... but there ''is'' the Easter egg. Are we just supposed to ignore it? In fact, I can't see any reason for the Easter egg's existence other than to give the correct spelling of the trophy's name. I therefore have no problem with calling it "the golbol" in the transcript, and in fact we may should call it "the Golbol" (a proper noun). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::'''EDIT CONFLICT X2 (Darn you!):''' Yeah, but would it kill you to refer to it as "the gold bowl"? Besides, I hear "gold bowl" the first time it's mentioned, but unless we want to get in [[User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings|here]], I suggest we get a clear consensus. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 23:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think the reason for the Easter egg is to be funny, not to tell us how to spell "gold bowl" in the HRWiki. That's a little presumptuous! And again, "zarer matermorts" was given as a direct transcription,. so that is clear. We don't know WHAT "golbol" was given for. I don't think it's appropriate to just speculate it's how to spell "gold bowl". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't hear the D in "goldbol". Therefore, I say it's Golbol. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
: Agreed. I hear none of the characters use the "D" when they refer to it. They also don't break up the words. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::I only hope TBC will [[Talk:Summer Short Shorts#Excuse Me While I Kiss This Guy|hear our cry]] and make it a QotW. Although, even then, it might still be ambiguous. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 16:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Strongest Man in the World Poster ==

If I am not mistaken, it features the "Big Beefy Arm" from Trogdor fame.
:I think it's just a generic beefy arm. Y'know, coz it's a strength contest and all. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I agree, just a generic arm.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:28, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:: I thought it looked like the same beefy arms from [[Dragon]], too. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== LotR reference? ==

It's a stretch, but I thought I'd bring it up here. When Pom Pom has the trophy at the end, Homestar says he should give it to him for his birthday, which of course was today. This is like when Gollum's friend got the Ring and Gollum demanded it for his birthday, which was that day. Of course Homestar didn't kill Pom Pom... but could they be related? I don't feel sure enough about it to add it without some agreement [[User:Inverse Tiger|Inverse Tiger]] 04:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No offense, but is there a single line in all of H*R which isn't a reference, by this standard? Anonymous has spoken. [[User:89.1.17.101|89.1.17.101]] 04:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::OK, anonymous, there's no need to be insistent. But I do think you're right that this reference is a stretch. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:D-d-definitely, definitely a stretch [[User:Jetpac|Jetpac]] 05:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Extra Sauce? ==

I think that Homestar acutally says "Extra Sauce" instead of exercise.
:I heard Extracise
:: Me too, though I thought of it as "Extrasize". --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Correction--the first incident, it sounds like "extra size", the second it sounds like he says "pour on that extra sauce".--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I'll second that.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::sounds like extro-sauze to me, but it could easily be both. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pure Pwnage Reference ==

Okay, this is DEFINITELY a reference, stop deleting it. I will make my case clear here.

Pure Pwnage is a somewhat popular internet-show. They did an episode where the main character sat at a desk with a Compy 386 and answered emails EXACTLY like Strong Bad does. Naturally, someone pointed this out to TBC and they threw him a bone by making this reference:
When Strong Bad writes to Homestar telling him he can achieve anything and then stops and says "you're a butt", this is a reference to the episode of Pure Pwnage (which references Strong Bad Emails) where Jeremy answers emails like Strong Bad and he tells someone who professes to 'like boys more than girls' that he should stay true to who he is and then erases it and writes "u r a fag".
Clearly these are the exact same principle. Starting out telling someone that they can 'acheve anything' and 'stay true to who you are' and then saying to them "you're a butt" or "u r a fag" is a TOTAL DIRECT reference. They cant use the word "fag" on Homestar Runner, and Strong Bad wouldnt write "u r" They abbreviated the best they could.
:Except that kind of joke is as old as the hills.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Character ''x'' does something absurdly out of character, realises what s/he's doing, stops, and reverts back to in character. This isn't exactly a new formula. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, sorry, agree with the people above me. Not a reference. It's just Strong Bad signing 50 autographs in a row without looking up, then realizing he's signing one for Homestar.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Agreed. This is not worth getting on a soapbox over. It's an old joke. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:I don't know. Personally, the reference kind of makes sense to me...[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:25, 23 August 2006

== Down Goes Bland ==

Someone is out to take out all of my references that are blazingly clear here, so i'm gonna write another discussion one.
"Down goes Bland" is a reference to Howard Cosell's ringside calling of the Foreman Vs Frazier fight where when George Foreman won, Howard Cosell repeatedly shouted "Down goes Frazier!"
C'mon, its a competition, one of them goes down and they yell "Down Goes <Last Name>"
What more do you want Phlip?!
:Maybe, but there are only so many ways to say that a competitor is down, after all.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Given there are over 350,000 Google results for "Down goes" and only 10,000 for "Down goes Frazier", I don't think Frazier owns this phrase. Even after allowing for the number of false positives of a shorter search string, and other refereneces to Frazier's fight, 35x the results is a lot. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::When are you going to refine a search and come up with MORE results? Your logic is perplexing to say the least. I have seen a lot more obscure things go up on this wiki. --Your Fuzzy God
::::I'm saying that if "Down goes" was actually a reference to Frazier, then a reasonable portion of the results for "Down goes" would also be results for "Down goes Frazier". As it is, less than 4% are. So "Down goes Frazier" cannot be considered the only possible source for the phrase, and once that is considered we have [[TTATOT]]. It's not a question of obscurity, it's a question of "How do we know it's this, and not something else?". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:21, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:When Homestar says "Watch your language" to Pom Pom it's a direct reference to The Lion King when Timon says that to Pumbaa!!!11111one OMG FASCISM!! ... seriously, no. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Golbol Easter Egg ==

The section about the Easter Egg says that the logo in the background of the golbol belongs to the New York Yankees.

In fact, it belongs to the New York Mets. (Mookie Wilson played for the Mets) {{unsigned|68.203.142.206|12:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)}}

:Thanks for point this out, but a hint for next time – if you see a clear mistake in the article, you don't need to tell us about it, just go in and fix it... taking it to the talk page is generally only necessary if you're not sure, or others don't agree. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

::That may all be well and good, but is it more than a coincidence that this toon came out just after the "Yankees finish historic sweep of Red Sox"? It would seem that would be rewarded with a gold bowl.

::: It is a coincidence. It's not a Yankees logo.

:::: Correct. The Mets and Yankees both have "NY" in their logos but they are arranged very distinctly. See the page backgrounds [http://www.mets.com/ here] and [http://www.yankees.com here] to compare the logos (in fact, it almost looks like the Mets logo in the Easter Egg could have been taken directly from the Mets website -- notice the angle!). But on a related note, does anyone think that it's worthy of note as trivia in the article that two days before this toon appeared on the site, Mookie Wilson (who has barely ever been in the news since the Mets won the World Series in 1986) appeared at a big ceremony at the Mets stadium with many of his '86 comrades marking the 20th anniversary of the championship and that Wilson was the one to speak on behalf of all the players present in accepting the honor? [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 23:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

::::: Here is an [http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060819&content_id=1618842&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym article] about Saturday's ceremony. Mookie Wilson is shown in the accompanying picture. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::: I still don't see the Logo anywhere, where exactly is it in the toon!! Am I just blind?
:::::::It's in the background of the Easter egg accessed at the end of the toon by clicking on the trophy. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::: I still don't see it, all I see is just a plain red backround with a trophy on it and GOLBOL next to it.
:::::::::May be a problem with your Flash player, your monitor, or (no offense) your eyes. They're pretty clear. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:03, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::: Just tell me where it is in this picture? http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:GoldBowl.jpg

== hewwo ==

he doesn't normally mispronounce l's

:Hmm... He does on every single main page...Just scroll over email. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 17:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

==Stong Bad vs. Strond Bad==
When I looked at the autograph egg, Strong Bad's inscription is signed "Strond Ba... wait a sec" instead of "Stong" as is mentioned in the transcript. It's possible that this will change randomly, I suppose, although I checked it a couple of times (in different windows) and it remains "Strond". I hesitate to change it, though, because TBC have done random stuff before, so maybe someone else can see what they get. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 14:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Fowl/Foul Language ==
Since Pom Pom only speaks in bubbles, we can never really know what he is saying. But from the reaction of Homestar and Strong Bad, not to mention Homestar's comment of toning the language down... couldn't this be considered the first time TBC actually have one of their characters use curse words? I mean we know they were always wanting to do that one day? ;)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:[[Swears]]. Sorry to crush your hopes and dreams! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

:{edit conflict} You mean apart from the ones listed in [[Swears]]? And it would also be possible for him to say something very nasty without actually using swear words. So it's really just speculation. Either way, looking at Strong Bad's expression, it must have been pretty tough stuff. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::That's typical "character you can't understand" behavior. I think it was done with The Cheat multiple times before. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:Um...... wow. I wasn't aware of the Swears page! lol. Yeah, and uh, apparently I haven't noticed all those other times they borderline'd it on cursing! lol.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Voice connections ==

Ok, so 1) Mr. Bland sounds a lot like Mike or Matt. And 2) The Grape Faerie sounds like a Bronx version of Homestar. Well, they're noted on this talk page now. These observations, and ones like them, aren't really relevant to the toon, and should remain off the main toon page. What could be blander than doing ''no'' voice impression at all for Mr. Bland? And certainly it's possible that some of Matt's voices will sound alike in some way—they're all coming out of the same mouth, dontcha know—so these are unnotable. Thanks for your time, and keep on tranglin'. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:Agree. Thanks, Qer. It's Matt, btw everybody. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:11, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Homestar? ==

According to the transcript, The Announcer says "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Homestar", but every time I listen to it, I hear "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-Dunce" (or possibly "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-Loser"), which would also explain Homestar's suprised look. --[[User:81.94.65.69|81.94.65.69]] 05:56, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:He could just be surprised coz he doesn't get a good introduction, like the minor characters do. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:: He's just rushing it when he says it. He seems to rush Homestar's name most of all, adding to the confusion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I slowed it down and listened closely - the "and" is more of a "'n'", and the "ar" at the end of "Homestar" is nearly missing entirely, but it's very definately "Homestar". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:50, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:I heard it 3 times (with earbuds), and he clearly said "Doofus". [[User:Stomhar|Stomhar]]

Talk:Strongest Man in the World

2006-08-23T21:48:40Z

Zonis: /* Golbol Easter Egg */

== 10 years! ==

Nice toon. I added this to the filmography of mr. bland and señor's charecter pages. I'm glad they re-did the old book. and there is another thing that I saw, when señor gets crushed, it says "sbloncheked" or what ever sb's candy bar was.
[[User:Cessna Man!|Cessna Man!]] 23:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
:I really liked this toon. It really captures the series' appeal. Who's doing the transcript for this, by the way? I hope they get done soon. We should put up pictures of Senor, Mr. Bland, etc.'s new forms on their pages. And also, Senor's voice doesn't sound like Matt's; think it could've been done by someone else?-[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 00:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:I'm almost certain that Mr. Bland was voiced by Mike. Anyone know for sure? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 01:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Plain ol' Matt's voice. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I added all the pictures, so that's done. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Not on main page? ==

Does anyone else not see this on the Main Pages? Should this be included as a Fun Fact of some kind?
:I see it there. Maybe clear your cache? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Introduction ==

The intro says that Homestar enters the contest yet again. This seems a little misleading, as the toon is a modernization, not a sequel, as the intro could imply.

:Looks like that's been changed {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Everybody Loves The Homestar Runner ==

doesnt he say "Everybody loves THE me" not "loves a'me"? that would make more sense to me. --([[User:Superplough|superplough]] not logged in) [[User:132.181.7.1|132.181.7.1]] 02:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:He does say "the me." You can go ahead and change that. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I hear a'me. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Mega Man Introductions? ==

I think that Mr. Bland, Señor, and The Robot's introductions may be references to games from the [[Wikipedia:Mega_Man_(series)|Mega Man series]], in which the bosses are introduced with a snazzy background, a pose, and a sound effect before you begin their levels. Or, is this a more general reference? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:07, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:The opening to The New Leave it to Beaver Show introduced the cast in a similar fashion if I remember correctly. Can't find any substantiating images though. Does it have to be a reference? Maybe it's just a visually interesting way to introduce characters. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 02:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Slo-Mo Action That is The Matrix, Super Mario Strikers and Final Fantasy In One==

Currently, the article page says that Homestar's slo-mo kicking of The Cheat is a reference to Super Mario Strikers. I think that it's actually a reference to The Matrix.

Hmmm... I dont think its necessarily a Matrix reference...its just in slow motion. the camera doesnt rotate around Homestar like the famous "bullet time" effect usually does. To me it just looks like a bicycle kick.
- [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 02:49, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, you're probably right. But I don't think TBC would make a reference to Super Mario Strikers. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 03:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

TBC have mentioned in an Interview (can't remember which one) that they are fans of Nintendo games, it is possible that they would reference Super Mario Striker, In SMS if a player passes the ball to a teammate in front of the Goal and the recieving teammate holds down the shoot button, the game will go into slow motion and the reciving teammate will do one of many different styles of Kicks,The most popular one Being the exact same move that Homestar did on Teh C. Also regarding the fact that it may be actually a reference to The Matrix, I recall no such move being used in any of the Matrix movies, [[User:Dctcool|Dctcool]]

It actually reminded me most of Shaolin Soccer... but that could be because I just watched it today.
:It reminds me of a lot of martial arts movies, but not one in particular that springs to mind.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Does anyone have a video of that specific kick from Super Mario Strikers? {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 14:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::: I found a video on Youtube of Super Mario Strikers which features the move in question [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0xihGkfuw / SMS video review] The move happen at around the 1:10 mark

I recently removed these RWRs from the page:

*Homestar's slow-motion move (a Pele kick) seems similar to a "Slo-mo Cross Shot" from [[Wikipedia:Super_Mario_Strikers|Super Mario Strikers]].
**It could also be a reference to the "Bullet Time" sequences in [[Wikipedia:The_Matrix|The Matrix]].
***Another possibility is they modeled it after the Sphere Shot in [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]].

This seems to me to be the very definition of TTATOT. I'd be glad to entertain discussion to help settle what Homestar's move ''actually'' refers to; however, I kind of suspect it's actually just a generic fighting move and not a reference at all. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:Heh, I agree. But now that you mention the Sphere Shot...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 04:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I propose that it is a reference to Shaolin Soccer. Though, actually, like many of the most reasonable people here, I doubt it's a direct reference to -anything-. Still, that kind of manuever is done at least once, if not a few times in Shaolin Soccer, in slo-mo and everything.

It's possible that it references all 3 franchises (except the Matrix as there is no such move in any Matrix movies)

::I don't think it references a single thing. Homestar kicks the cheat around like a soccer ball with generic moves and does an out of the ordinary extra kick in slow motion to emphasize it. It might be inspired by such things but not directly referencing Shaolin Soccer, Matrix or Super Mario Strikers. The ONLY WAY it could be a reference, directly, to any of those is if the moves Homestar is doing are pretty much exactly done like those in the particular move in the game or movie. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not saying it's a referance, but is it just me, or is Homestar's flip when kicking the Cheat very similar to one of Tidus's blitzball kicks in Final Fantasy X? -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 01:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
: There are other things it's similar to as well, though - we removed it as a TTATOT fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[[Wikipedia:Image:Grabbed Frame 18.jpg|Here's a picture of the FFX kick in question.]] ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 21:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

:I'd seriously go with SMS, as the Blitzball kick seems to have a much greater range of motion, not to mention that TBC would be more inclined to reference the Nintendo game. Remember: Just because there's a possibility for TTATOT doesn't mean that it always is. This fact falls under that category; it most definitely is a reference to SOMETHING. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 21:43, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:: Yeah. It's a reference to a [[Wikipedia:Bicycle kick|Bicycle kick]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

==I still alive?==
I think Senor says "I see the light!" Instead of "I still alive"! I see the light is much funnier. The Chaps would go for I See The Light!-Me
: I hear "I still alive," funny or not. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:I originally thought it was "i see the light", but i think "I still alive" makes more sense with the way he waves his hand up through the grapes. And his bad grammar does fit with hes dialect. -[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 02:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
: I was just about to add a discussion on this line. I hear, "I ''feel'' alive!" His accent is a little hard to decipher, so I don't see this ending well. Prepare for weeks of arguing...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::FWIW, the first time I heard it I heard "I steel alive!" and it was hilarious. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I heard "I steel alive" [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[[Media:Alive.ogg|The first quote in question]]--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I heard "I see de light!" {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 03:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::It is clearly "I steel alive" {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
After watching it a few timew I thought that it was I see de light [[User:Smallowman|Smallowman]] 04:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::I hear "I still alive!", too.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:56, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"I still alive!" —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::"I still alive!" - {{User:Kookykman/sig}} 23:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::He's still alive; I hear "I still alive" - {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 16:40 23 August 2006

== All right, you crap-for-brains ==

What is it that the Grape Fairie is saying in his first line. I can't tell what it is, but it doesn't sound anything like "stupid" to me. Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:My first guess is "sorry brains", but I'm not sure enough to change the transcript.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Perhaps "slowest brains"? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:: ive just listeend to it a bunch of times and im pretty sure its just one syllable. kinda sounds like "All right you slows brains". Im not really hearing the 2 sylables of slowest and not the "ee" sound of sorry. But yea definatly not "stupid brains" -[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 03:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[[Media:Listenup.ogg|The second quote in question]]--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::sounds like: " i'm ready, so you'se brains listen up smart " possibly calling them brains in conjunction with listen up smart. {{User:Csours/sig}} 03:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Do you have headphones or speakers, Csours? I'm curious. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Ohhh yeah, "slows brains" kind of works! I was looking for something that rhymes/sounds like "stoes brains," and I think that's it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::speakers. i know headphones are better, i just havent got any yet. also i put it on loop on my sound editor and listened to it like 100 times.{{User:Csours/sig}} 14:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

How about 'doze brains'?

== Unplugged? ==

The first fun fact credits the show MTV Unplugged with the creation of the term unplugged. I think (and am researching) that the term predates the show. [[User:Mila|Mila]] 03:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:"Unplugged" dates back to the beginnings of elictricity. But as a description of music played without extra amplification, MTV gets the credit. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

The unplugged fact is credited both to MTV and Eric Clapton in different sections, which is kind of contradicting itself. One or the other should be taken out.
===Teh Proof===
Quotes from the Oxford English dictionary:
*New York Times, 21 April 1957
*:The return of the unplugged guitar gets another boost from George Van Eps, who was supplying rhythmic chords to jazz groups long before voltage came into fashion.
*Washington Post, 26 December 1986
*:Nils Lofgren unplugged is still Nils Lofgren the musician... Lofgren will give a rare acoustic concert at the Bayou tomorrow.
*Toronto Star, 6 October 1989
*:The simple, six-string folk rhythms of several songs here..owe some of their sincere appeal to the unplugged colors of Tracy Chapman's music.
MTV Unplugged first aired on 26 November, 1989. Lexicography saves the day again! --[[User:60.228.144.21|60.228.144.21]] 08:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:Nice catch... I've reworded the fact to say that MTV popularised it, but didn't coin it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

==hacky sack vs footbag==

in the transcript, it says that homestar kicks the cheat around like a hacky sack. this is a brand name. footbag is the generic term.{{User:Csours/sig}} 03:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
: I never play with hackysacks or footbags, but I don't know anyone who would know what you mean if you say footbag [[User:Inverse Tiger|Inverse Tiger]] 04:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I've never heard the word "footbag", either. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Ditto--I've heard them called hacky sacks for 20 years (or thereabouts), but I've never heard footbags. It may be a brand name, but it's pretty much been adopted as a generic term (like with Levis or Kleenex).--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I've never heard of a footbag ''or'' a hacky sack. Does that mean I'm stupid? [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 12:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I've never heard Levis used as a generic term... --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 15:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Actually, the way he kicks it also looks like the way you can bounce a ball in soccer.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Page Title ==

Is "The Homestar Runner Enters the Longest Page Title on the Website Contest!" actually the longest page title on the website? [[User:!!|!!]]

: [[User talk:William | Shall we find out?]] [[User:William|William]] 04:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I did my own search by looking up "Page title" on the wiki's search bar and looking through each selection. Turns out this toon doesn't win. See the fun facts for the true winner. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 05:30, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Wretched Simmons Outfit ==

Homestar's spandex workout uniform is from the Lady Fan E-mail.
:Yep, that's already mentioned there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Enough with the golbol! ==

Alright already! I see that it's captioned as GOLBOL in the Easter egg. I can accept that many, if not all, characters pronounce it "golbol". But, for the love of all that is humane, can we PLEASE use "gold bowl" or "trophy" when we are describing it? Please, oh please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Since you asked so nicely... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:: Actually, in the 'toon version, it's never once referred to as a "trophy" or "gold bowl", and only once as just simply a "bowl". Why not call it "Golbol"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Because it sounds ridiculous...? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::[[Suudsu]]. [[The Denzel]]. [[Lord Quackingstick]]. We don't describe these every time they appear after being named, but they have ridiculous names as well. This is a site about silly cartoon animal people. Keep your sense of humor about you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::From another edit just made on another page, I'm reminded of another such case: [[The Geddup Noise]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I wonder, though, if in the Fun Facts the word golbol would be better placed in quotes, since it's not a real word?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Jay, those are established more solidly than this. The spelling "golbol" is solely from an egg which in all likelihood is just a joke in itself on the characters' pronunciation. As Dorian put in an edit summary, it makes it look like we're a bunch of turkeys. This is a knowledge base, not a poultry farm. We should use an odd spelling when it's needed, but not when it doesn't add to meaning. Suudzu - how else would you spell it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::We had a bit of conversation over this, and it was determined that I would transcribe it as "Golbol". Sorry if there's been any confusion. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 12:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::"More solidly?" Lord Quackingstick's name is mentioned all of once. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Sure. Strong Bad unquestionably says "Quackingstick". It's a duck on a stick, the name makes perfect sense. Here, we are transcribing a word based on Homestar's and The Grape Faerie's accents, which we never do. The only supporting evidence is the egg, which could easily be itself making a joke about how those two pronounced it. I mean, concensus will win, and I can see the argument for, but I'm of the mind we ought not do this in the transcript. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Doesn't spelling it out in the Easter egg as they did carry a lot of weight, just as if Strong Bad had typed it or if it were featured as a Quote of the Week? I mean, it sure ''sounds'' like they're saying "golbol" and not "gold bowl" to me, so there's not the problem of the two not matching. Oh, to add to Jay's list of examples: "zader matermorts". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yeah, but that's only because of the Easter egg. Do you really think you would transcribe it as "golbol" if you hadn't seen it? Also, you guys are making a big deal out of it. Just because it's listed as "GOLBOL" doesn't mean that it wouldn't be "''the'' golbol" otherwise. And just typing out "golbol" makes me queasy. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 22:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::No, if it weren't for the Easter egg, then there's no way I would transcribe it "golbol"... but there ''is'' the Easter egg. Are we just supposed to ignore it? In fact, I can't see any reason for the Easter egg's existence other than to give the correct spelling of the trophy's name. I therefore have no problem with calling it "the golbol" in the transcript, and in fact we may should call it "the Golbol" (a proper noun). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::'''EDIT CONFLICT X2 (Darn you!):''' Yeah, but would it kill you to refer to it as "the gold bowl"? Besides, I hear "gold bowl" the first time it's mentioned, but unless we want to get in [[User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings|here]], I suggest we get a clear consensus. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 23:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think the reason for the Easter egg is to be funny, not to tell us how to spell "gold bowl" in the HRWiki. That's a little presumptuous! And again, "zarer matermorts" was given as a direct transcription,. so that is clear. We don't know WHAT "golbol" was given for. I don't think it's appropriate to just speculate it's how to spell "gold bowl". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't hear the D in "goldbol". Therefore, I say it's Golbol. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
: Agreed. I hear none of the characters use the "D" when they refer to it. They also don't break up the words. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::I only hope TBC will [[Talk:Summer Short Shorts#Excuse Me While I Kiss This Guy|hear our cry]] and make it a QotW. Although, even then, it might still be ambiguous. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 16:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Strongest Man in the World Poster ==

If I am not mistaken, it features the "Big Beefy Arm" from Trogdor fame.
:I think it's just a generic beefy arm. Y'know, coz it's a strength contest and all. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I agree, just a generic arm.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:28, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:: I thought it looked like the same beefy arms from [[Dragon]], too. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== LotR reference? ==

It's a stretch, but I thought I'd bring it up here. When Pom Pom has the trophy at the end, Homestar says he should give it to him for his birthday, which of course was today. This is like when Gollum's friend got the Ring and Gollum demanded it for his birthday, which was that day. Of course Homestar didn't kill Pom Pom... but could they be related? I don't feel sure enough about it to add it without some agreement [[User:Inverse Tiger|Inverse Tiger]] 04:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No offense, but is there a single line in all of H*R which isn't a reference, by this standard? Anonymous has spoken. [[User:89.1.17.101|89.1.17.101]] 04:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::OK, anonymous, there's no need to be insistent. But I do think you're right that this reference is a stretch. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:D-d-definitely, definitely a stretch [[User:Jetpac|Jetpac]] 05:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Extra Sauce? ==

I think that Homestar acutally says "Extra Sauce" instead of exercise.
:I heard Extracise
:: Me too, though I thought of it as "Extrasize". --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Correction--the first incident, it sounds like "extra size", the second it sounds like he says "pour on that extra sauce".--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I'll second that.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::sounds like extro-sauze to me, but it could easily be both. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pure Pwnage Reference ==

Okay, this is DEFINITELY a reference, stop deleting it. I will make my case clear here.

Pure Pwnage is a somewhat popular internet-show. They did an episode where the main character sat at a desk with a Compy 386 and answered emails EXACTLY like Strong Bad does. Naturally, someone pointed this out to TBC and they threw him a bone by making this reference:
When Strong Bad writes to Homestar telling him he can achieve anything and then stops and says "you're a butt", this is a reference to the episode of Pure Pwnage (which references Strong Bad Emails) where Jeremy answers emails like Strong Bad and he tells someone who professes to 'like boys more than girls' that he should stay true to who he is and then erases it and writes "u r a fag".
Clearly these are the exact same principle. Starting out telling someone that they can 'acheve anything' and 'stay true to who you are' and then saying to them "you're a butt" or "u r a fag" is a TOTAL DIRECT reference. They cant use the word "fag" on Homestar Runner, and Strong Bad wouldnt write "u r" They abbreviated the best they could.
:Except that kind of joke is as old as the hills.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Character ''x'' does something absurdly out of character, realises what s/he's doing, stops, and reverts back to in character. This isn't exactly a new formula. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, sorry, agree with the people above me. Not a reference. It's just Strong Bad signing 50 autographs in a row without looking up, then realizing he's signing one for Homestar.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Agreed. This is not worth getting on a soapbox over. It's an old joke. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:I don't know. Personally, the reference kind of makes sense to me...[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:25, 23 August 2006

== Down Goes Bland ==

Someone is out to take out all of my references that are blazingly clear here, so i'm gonna write another discussion one.
"Down goes Bland" is a reference to Howard Cosell's ringside calling of the Foreman Vs Frazier fight where when George Foreman won, Howard Cosell repeatedly shouted "Down goes Frazier!"
C'mon, its a competition, one of them goes down and they yell "Down Goes <Last Name>"
What more do you want Phlip?!
:Maybe, but there are only so many ways to say that a competitor is down, after all.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Given there are over 350,000 Google results for "Down goes" and only 10,000 for "Down goes Frazier", I don't think Frazier owns this phrase. Even after allowing for the number of false positives of a shorter search string, and other refereneces to Frazier's fight, 35x the results is a lot. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::When are you going to refine a search and come up with MORE results? Your logic is perplexing to say the least. I have seen a lot more obscure things go up on this wiki. --Your Fuzzy God
::::I'm saying that if "Down goes" was actually a reference to Frazier, then a reasonable portion of the results for "Down goes" would also be results for "Down goes Frazier". As it is, less than 4% are. So "Down goes Frazier" cannot be considered the only possible source for the phrase, and once that is considered we have [[TTATOT]]. It's not a question of obscurity, it's a question of "How do we know it's this, and not something else?". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:21, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:When Homestar says "Watch your language" to Pom Pom it's a direct reference to The Lion King when Timon says that to Pumbaa!!!11111one OMG FASCISM!! ... seriously, no. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Golbol Easter Egg ==

The section about the Easter Egg says that the logo in the background of the golbol belongs to the New York Yankees.

In fact, it belongs to the New York Mets. (Mookie Wilson played for the Mets) {{unsigned|68.203.142.206|12:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)}}

:Thanks for point this out, but a hint for next time – if you see a clear mistake in the article, you don't need to tell us about it, just go in and fix it... taking it to the talk page is generally only necessary if you're not sure, or others don't agree. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

::That may all be well and good, but is it more than a coincidence that this toon came out just after the "Yankees finish historic sweep of Red Sox"? It would seem that would be rewarded with a gold bowl.

::: It is a coincidence. It's not a Yankees logo.

:::: Correct. The Mets and Yankees both have "NY" in their logos but they are arranged very distinctly. See the page backgrounds [http://www.mets.com/ here] and [http://www.yankees.com here] to compare the logos (in fact, it almost looks like the Mets logo in the Easter Egg could have been taken directly from the Mets website -- notice the angle!). But on a related note, does anyone think that it's worthy of note as trivia in the article that two days before this toon appeared on the site, Mookie Wilson (who has barely ever been in the news since the Mets won the World Series in 1986) appeared at a big ceremony at the Mets stadium with many of his '86 comrades marking the 20th anniversary of the championship and that Wilson was the one to speak on behalf of all the players present in accepting the honor? [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 23:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

::::: Here is an [http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060819&content_id=1618842&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym article] about Saturday's ceremony. Mookie Wilson is shown in the accompanying picture. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::: I still don't see the Logo anywhere, where exactly is it in the toon!! Am I just blind?
:::::::It's in the background of the Easter egg accessed at the end of the toon by clicking on the trophy. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::: I still don't see it, all I see is just a plain red backround with a trophy on it and GOLBOL next to it.

== hewwo ==

he doesn't normally mispronounce l's

:Hmm... He does on every single main page...Just scroll over email. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 17:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

==Stong Bad vs. Strond Bad==
When I looked at the autograph egg, Strong Bad's inscription is signed "Strond Ba... wait a sec" instead of "Stong" as is mentioned in the transcript. It's possible that this will change randomly, I suppose, although I checked it a couple of times (in different windows) and it remains "Strond". I hesitate to change it, though, because TBC have done random stuff before, so maybe someone else can see what they get. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 14:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Fowl/Foul Language ==
Since Pom Pom only speaks in bubbles, we can never really know what he is saying. But from the reaction of Homestar and Strong Bad, not to mention Homestar's comment of toning the language down... couldn't this be considered the first time TBC actually have one of their characters use curse words? I mean we know they were always wanting to do that one day? ;)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:[[Swears]]. Sorry to crush your hopes and dreams! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

:{edit conflict} You mean apart from the ones listed in [[Swears]]? And it would also be possible for him to say something very nasty without actually using swear words. So it's really just speculation. Either way, looking at Strong Bad's expression, it must have been pretty tough stuff. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::That's typical "character you can't understand" behavior. I think it was done with The Cheat multiple times before. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:Um...... wow. I wasn't aware of the Swears page! lol. Yeah, and uh, apparently I haven't noticed all those other times they borderline'd it on cursing! lol.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Voice connections ==

Ok, so 1) Mr. Bland sounds a lot like Mike or Matt. And 2) The Grape Faerie sounds like a Bronx version of Homestar. Well, they're noted on this talk page now. These observations, and ones like them, aren't really relevant to the toon, and should remain off the main toon page. What could be blander than doing ''no'' voice impression at all for Mr. Bland? And certainly it's possible that some of Matt's voices will sound alike in some way—they're all coming out of the same mouth, dontcha know—so these are unnotable. Thanks for your time, and keep on tranglin'. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:Agree. Thanks, Qer. It's Matt, btw everybody. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:11, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Homestar? ==

According to the transcript, The Announcer says "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Homestar", but every time I listen to it, I hear "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-Dunce" (or possibly "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-Loser"), which would also explain Homestar's suprised look. --[[User:81.94.65.69|81.94.65.69]] 05:56, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:He could just be surprised coz he doesn't get a good introduction, like the minor characters do. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:: He's just rushing it when he says it. He seems to rush Homestar's name most of all, adding to the confusion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I slowed it down and listened closely - the "and" is more of a "'n'", and the "ar" at the end of "Homestar" is nearly missing entirely, but it's very definately "Homestar". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:50, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:I heard it 3 times (with earbuds), and he clearly said "Doofus". [[User:Stomhar|Stomhar]]

Talk:Strongest Man in the World

2006-08-23T21:07:29Z

Zonis: /* Golbol Easter Egg */

== 10 years! ==

Nice toon. I added this to the filmography of mr. bland and señor's charecter pages. I'm glad they re-did the old book. and there is another thing that I saw, when señor gets crushed, it says "sbloncheked" or what ever sb's candy bar was.
[[User:Cessna Man!|Cessna Man!]] 23:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
:I really liked this toon. It really captures the series' appeal. Who's doing the transcript for this, by the way? I hope they get done soon. We should put up pictures of Senor, Mr. Bland, etc.'s new forms on their pages. And also, Senor's voice doesn't sound like Matt's; think it could've been done by someone else?-[[User:Brightstar Shiner|Brightstar Shiner]] 00:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:I'm almost certain that Mr. Bland was voiced by Mike. Anyone know for sure? --[[User:Bigscarymike|BigScaryMike]] 01:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Plain ol' Matt's voice. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I added all the pictures, so that's done. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Not on main page? ==

Does anyone else not see this on the Main Pages? Should this be included as a Fun Fact of some kind?
:I see it there. Maybe clear your cache? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Introduction ==

The intro says that Homestar enters the contest yet again. This seems a little misleading, as the toon is a modernization, not a sequel, as the intro could imply.

:Looks like that's been changed {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Everybody Loves The Homestar Runner ==

doesnt he say "Everybody loves THE me" not "loves a'me"? that would make more sense to me. --([[User:Superplough|superplough]] not logged in) [[User:132.181.7.1|132.181.7.1]] 02:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:He does say "the me." You can go ahead and change that. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I hear a'me. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Mega Man Introductions? ==

I think that Mr. Bland, Señor, and The Robot's introductions may be references to games from the [[Wikipedia:Mega_Man_(series)|Mega Man series]], in which the bosses are introduced with a snazzy background, a pose, and a sound effect before you begin their levels. Or, is this a more general reference? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:07, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:The opening to The New Leave it to Beaver Show introduced the cast in a similar fashion if I remember correctly. Can't find any substantiating images though. Does it have to be a reference? Maybe it's just a visually interesting way to introduce characters. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 02:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Slo-Mo Action That is The Matrix, Super Mario Strikers and Final Fantasy In One==

Currently, the article page says that Homestar's slo-mo kicking of The Cheat is a reference to Super Mario Strikers. I think that it's actually a reference to The Matrix.

Hmmm... I dont think its necessarily a Matrix reference...its just in slow motion. the camera doesnt rotate around Homestar like the famous "bullet time" effect usually does. To me it just looks like a bicycle kick.
- [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 02:49, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, you're probably right. But I don't think TBC would make a reference to Super Mario Strikers. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 03:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

TBC have mentioned in an Interview (can't remember which one) that they are fans of Nintendo games, it is possible that they would reference Super Mario Striker, In SMS if a player passes the ball to a teammate in front of the Goal and the recieving teammate holds down the shoot button, the game will go into slow motion and the reciving teammate will do one of many different styles of Kicks,The most popular one Being the exact same move that Homestar did on Teh C. Also regarding the fact that it may be actually a reference to The Matrix, I recall no such move being used in any of the Matrix movies, [[User:Dctcool|Dctcool]]

It actually reminded me most of Shaolin Soccer... but that could be because I just watched it today.
:It reminds me of a lot of martial arts movies, but not one in particular that springs to mind.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Does anyone have a video of that specific kick from Super Mario Strikers? {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 14:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::: I found a video on Youtube of Super Mario Strikers which features the move in question [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0xihGkfuw / SMS video review] The move happen at around the 1:10 mark

I recently removed these RWRs from the page:

*Homestar's slow-motion move (a Pele kick) seems similar to a "Slo-mo Cross Shot" from [[Wikipedia:Super_Mario_Strikers|Super Mario Strikers]].
**It could also be a reference to the "Bullet Time" sequences in [[Wikipedia:The_Matrix|The Matrix]].
***Another possibility is they modeled it after the Sphere Shot in [[Wikipedia:Final Fantasy X|Final Fantasy X]].

This seems to me to be the very definition of TTATOT. I'd be glad to entertain discussion to help settle what Homestar's move ''actually'' refers to; however, I kind of suspect it's actually just a generic fighting move and not a reference at all. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:Heh, I agree. But now that you mention the Sphere Shot...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 04:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I propose that it is a reference to Shaolin Soccer. Though, actually, like many of the most reasonable people here, I doubt it's a direct reference to -anything-. Still, that kind of manuever is done at least once, if not a few times in Shaolin Soccer, in slo-mo and everything.

It's possible that it references all 3 franchises (except the Matrix as there is no such move in any Matrix movies)

::I don't think it references a single thing. Homestar kicks the cheat around like a soccer ball with generic moves and does an out of the ordinary extra kick in slow motion to emphasize it. It might be inspired by such things but not directly referencing Shaolin Soccer, Matrix or Super Mario Strikers. The ONLY WAY it could be a reference, directly, to any of those is if the moves Homestar is doing are pretty much exactly done like those in the particular move in the game or movie. --{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not saying it's a referance, but is it just me, or is Homestar's flip when kicking the Cheat very similar to one of Tidus's blitzball kicks in Final Fantasy X? -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 01:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
: There are other things it's similar to as well, though - we removed it as a TTATOT fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

==I still alive?==
I think Senor says "I see the light!" Instead of "I still alive"! I see the light is much funnier. The Chaps would go for I See The Light!-Me
: I hear "I still alive," funny or not. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:I originally thought it was "i see the light", but i think "I still alive" makes more sense with the way he waves his hand up through the grapes. And his bad grammar does fit with hes dialect. -[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 02:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
: I was just about to add a discussion on this line. I hear, "I ''feel'' alive!" His accent is a little hard to decipher, so I don't see this ending well. Prepare for weeks of arguing...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::FWIW, the first time I heard it I heard "I steel alive!" and it was hilarious. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I heard "I steel alive" [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[[Media:Alive.ogg|The first quote in question]]--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I heard "I see de light!" {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}} 03:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::It is clearly "I steel alive" {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
After watching it a few timew I thought that it was I see de light [[User:Smallowman|Smallowman]] 04:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::I hear "I still alive!", too.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:56, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"I still alive!" —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::"I still alive!" - {{User:Kookykman/sig}} 23:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::He's still alive; I hear "I still alive" - {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 16:40 23 August 2006

== All right, you crap-for-brains ==

What is it that the Grape Fairie is saying in his first line. I can't tell what it is, but it doesn't sound anything like "stupid" to me. Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:My first guess is "sorry brains", but I'm not sure enough to change the transcript.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 02:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Perhaps "slowest brains"? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:: ive just listeend to it a bunch of times and im pretty sure its just one syllable. kinda sounds like "All right you slows brains". Im not really hearing the 2 sylables of slowest and not the "ee" sound of sorry. But yea definatly not "stupid brains" -[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 03:13, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[[Media:Listenup.ogg|The second quote in question]]--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 03:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::sounds like: " i'm ready, so you'se brains listen up smart " possibly calling them brains in conjunction with listen up smart. {{User:Csours/sig}} 03:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Do you have headphones or speakers, Csours? I'm curious. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Ohhh yeah, "slows brains" kind of works! I was looking for something that rhymes/sounds like "stoes brains," and I think that's it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::speakers. i know headphones are better, i just havent got any yet. also i put it on loop on my sound editor and listened to it like 100 times.{{User:Csours/sig}} 14:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

How about 'doze brains'?

== Unplugged? ==

The first fun fact credits the show MTV Unplugged with the creation of the term unplugged. I think (and am researching) that the term predates the show. [[User:Mila|Mila]] 03:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:"Unplugged" dates back to the beginnings of elictricity. But as a description of music played without extra amplification, MTV gets the credit. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

The unplugged fact is credited both to MTV and Eric Clapton in different sections, which is kind of contradicting itself. One or the other should be taken out.
===Teh Proof===
Quotes from the Oxford English dictionary:
*New York Times, 21 April 1957
*:The return of the unplugged guitar gets another boost from George Van Eps, who was supplying rhythmic chords to jazz groups long before voltage came into fashion.
*Washington Post, 26 December 1986
*:Nils Lofgren unplugged is still Nils Lofgren the musician... Lofgren will give a rare acoustic concert at the Bayou tomorrow.
*Toronto Star, 6 October 1989
*:The simple, six-string folk rhythms of several songs here..owe some of their sincere appeal to the unplugged colors of Tracy Chapman's music.
MTV Unplugged first aired on 26 November, 1989. Lexicography saves the day again! --[[User:60.228.144.21|60.228.144.21]] 08:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:Nice catch... I've reworded the fact to say that MTV popularised it, but didn't coin it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

==hacky sack vs footbag==

in the transcript, it says that homestar kicks the cheat around like a hacky sack. this is a brand name. footbag is the generic term.{{User:Csours/sig}} 03:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
: I never play with hackysacks or footbags, but I don't know anyone who would know what you mean if you say footbag [[User:Inverse Tiger|Inverse Tiger]] 04:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I've never heard the word "footbag", either. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Ditto--I've heard them called hacky sacks for 20 years (or thereabouts), but I've never heard footbags. It may be a brand name, but it's pretty much been adopted as a generic term (like with Levis or Kleenex).--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I've never heard of a footbag ''or'' a hacky sack. Does that mean I'm stupid? [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 12:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I've never heard Levis used as a generic term... --[[User:ComputerBox|ComputerBox]] 15:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Actually, the way he kicks it also looks like the way you can bounce a ball in soccer.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Page Title ==

Is "The Homestar Runner Enters the Longest Page Title on the Website Contest!" actually the longest page title on the website? [[User:!!|!!]]

: [[User talk:William | Shall we find out?]] [[User:William|William]] 04:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::I did my own search by looking up "Page title" on the wiki's search bar and looking through each selection. Turns out this toon doesn't win. See the fun facts for the true winner. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 05:30, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Wretched Simmons Outfit ==

Homestar's spandex workout uniform is from the Lady Fan E-mail.
:Yep, that's already mentioned there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Enough with the golbol! ==

Alright already! I see that it's captioned as GOLBOL in the Easter egg. I can accept that many, if not all, characters pronounce it "golbol". But, for the love of all that is humane, can we PLEASE use "gold bowl" or "trophy" when we are describing it? Please, oh please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Since you asked so nicely... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:: Actually, in the 'toon version, it's never once referred to as a "trophy" or "gold bowl", and only once as just simply a "bowl". Why not call it "Golbol"? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:26, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Because it sounds ridiculous...? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::[[Suudsu]]. [[The Denzel]]. [[Lord Quackingstick]]. We don't describe these every time they appear after being named, but they have ridiculous names as well. This is a site about silly cartoon animal people. Keep your sense of humor about you. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::From another edit just made on another page, I'm reminded of another such case: [[The Geddup Noise]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I wonder, though, if in the Fun Facts the word golbol would be better placed in quotes, since it's not a real word?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Jay, those are established more solidly than this. The spelling "golbol" is solely from an egg which in all likelihood is just a joke in itself on the characters' pronunciation. As Dorian put in an edit summary, it makes it look like we're a bunch of turkeys. This is a knowledge base, not a poultry farm. We should use an odd spelling when it's needed, but not when it doesn't add to meaning. Suudzu - how else would you spell it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::We had a bit of conversation over this, and it was determined that I would transcribe it as "Golbol". Sorry if there's been any confusion. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 12:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::"More solidly?" Lord Quackingstick's name is mentioned all of once. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Sure. Strong Bad unquestionably says "Quackingstick". It's a duck on a stick, the name makes perfect sense. Here, we are transcribing a word based on Homestar's and The Grape Faerie's accents, which we never do. The only supporting evidence is the egg, which could easily be itself making a joke about how those two pronounced it. I mean, concensus will win, and I can see the argument for, but I'm of the mind we ought not do this in the transcript. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Doesn't spelling it out in the Easter egg as they did carry a lot of weight, just as if Strong Bad had typed it or if it were featured as a Quote of the Week? I mean, it sure ''sounds'' like they're saying "golbol" and not "gold bowl" to me, so there's not the problem of the two not matching. Oh, to add to Jay's list of examples: "zader matermorts". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Yeah, but that's only because of the Easter egg. Do you really think you would transcribe it as "golbol" if you hadn't seen it? Also, you guys are making a big deal out of it. Just because it's listed as "GOLBOL" doesn't mean that it wouldn't be "''the'' golbol" otherwise. And just typing out "golbol" makes me queasy. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 22:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::No, if it weren't for the Easter egg, then there's no way I would transcribe it "golbol"... but there ''is'' the Easter egg. Are we just supposed to ignore it? In fact, I can't see any reason for the Easter egg's existence other than to give the correct spelling of the trophy's name. I therefore have no problem with calling it "the golbol" in the transcript, and in fact we may should call it "the Golbol" (a proper noun). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::'''EDIT CONFLICT X2 (Darn you!):''' Yeah, but would it kill you to refer to it as "the gold bowl"? Besides, I hear "gold bowl" the first time it's mentioned, but unless we want to get in [[User:Rogue Leader/Lamest Edit Wars and Senseless Mud Slingings|here]], I suggest we get a clear consensus. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 23:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think the reason for the Easter egg is to be funny, not to tell us how to spell "gold bowl" in the HRWiki. That's a little presumptuous! And again, "zarer matermorts" was given as a direct transcription,. so that is clear. We don't know WHAT "golbol" was given for. I don't think it's appropriate to just speculate it's how to spell "gold bowl". {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't hear the D in "goldbol". Therefore, I say it's Golbol. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 02:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
: Agreed. I hear none of the characters use the "D" when they refer to it. They also don't break up the words. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::I only hope TBC will [[Talk:Summer Short Shorts#Excuse Me While I Kiss This Guy|hear our cry]] and make it a QotW. Although, even then, it might still be ambiguous. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 16:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Strongest Man in the World Poster ==

If I am not mistaken, it features the "Big Beefy Arm" from Trogdor fame.
:I think it's just a generic beefy arm. Y'know, coz it's a strength contest and all. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I agree, just a generic arm.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:28, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:: I thought it looked like the same beefy arms from [[Dragon]], too. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== LotR reference? ==

It's a stretch, but I thought I'd bring it up here. When Pom Pom has the trophy at the end, Homestar says he should give it to him for his birthday, which of course was today. This is like when Gollum's friend got the Ring and Gollum demanded it for his birthday, which was that day. Of course Homestar didn't kill Pom Pom... but could they be related? I don't feel sure enough about it to add it without some agreement [[User:Inverse Tiger|Inverse Tiger]] 04:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No offense, but is there a single line in all of H*R which isn't a reference, by this standard? Anonymous has spoken. [[User:89.1.17.101|89.1.17.101]] 04:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::OK, anonymous, there's no need to be insistent. But I do think you're right that this reference is a stretch. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:D-d-definitely, definitely a stretch [[User:Jetpac|Jetpac]] 05:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Extra Sauce? ==

I think that Homestar acutally says "Extra Sauce" instead of exercise.
:I heard Extracise
:: Me too, though I thought of it as "Extrasize". --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Correction--the first incident, it sounds like "extra size", the second it sounds like he says "pour on that extra sauce".--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 07:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I'll second that.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::::sounds like extro-sauze to me, but it could easily be both. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 15:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pure Pwnage Reference ==

Okay, this is DEFINITELY a reference, stop deleting it. I will make my case clear here.

Pure Pwnage is a somewhat popular internet-show. They did an episode where the main character sat at a desk with a Compy 386 and answered emails EXACTLY like Strong Bad does. Naturally, someone pointed this out to TBC and they threw him a bone by making this reference:
When Strong Bad writes to Homestar telling him he can achieve anything and then stops and says "you're a butt", this is a reference to the episode of Pure Pwnage (which references Strong Bad Emails) where Jeremy answers emails like Strong Bad and he tells someone who professes to 'like boys more than girls' that he should stay true to who he is and then erases it and writes "u r a fag".
Clearly these are the exact same principle. Starting out telling someone that they can 'acheve anything' and 'stay true to who you are' and then saying to them "you're a butt" or "u r a fag" is a TOTAL DIRECT reference. They cant use the word "fag" on Homestar Runner, and Strong Bad wouldnt write "u r" They abbreviated the best they could.
:Except that kind of joke is as old as the hills.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Character ''x'' does something absurdly out of character, realises what s/he's doing, stops, and reverts back to in character. This isn't exactly a new formula. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, sorry, agree with the people above me. Not a reference. It's just Strong Bad signing 50 autographs in a row without looking up, then realizing he's signing one for Homestar.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:Agreed. This is not worth getting on a soapbox over. It's an old joke. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:I don't know. Personally, the reference kind of makes sense to me...[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 14:25, 23 August 2006

== Down Goes Bland ==

Someone is out to take out all of my references that are blazingly clear here, so i'm gonna write another discussion one.
"Down goes Bland" is a reference to Howard Cosell's ringside calling of the Foreman Vs Frazier fight where when George Foreman won, Howard Cosell repeatedly shouted "Down goes Frazier!"
C'mon, its a competition, one of them goes down and they yell "Down Goes <Last Name>"
What more do you want Phlip?!
:Maybe, but there are only so many ways to say that a competitor is down, after all.--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 06:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
::Given there are over 350,000 Google results for "Down goes" and only 10,000 for "Down goes Frazier", I don't think Frazier owns this phrase. Even after allowing for the number of false positives of a shorter search string, and other refereneces to Frazier's fight, 35x the results is a lot. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:::When are you going to refine a search and come up with MORE results? Your logic is perplexing to say the least. I have seen a lot more obscure things go up on this wiki. --Your Fuzzy God
::::I'm saying that if "Down goes" was actually a reference to Frazier, then a reasonable portion of the results for "Down goes" would also be results for "Down goes Frazier". As it is, less than 4% are. So "Down goes Frazier" cannot be considered the only possible source for the phrase, and once that is considered we have [[TTATOT]]. It's not a question of obscurity, it's a question of "How do we know it's this, and not something else?". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:21, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
:When Homestar says "Watch your language" to Pom Pom it's a direct reference to The Lion King when Timon says that to Pumbaa!!!11111one OMG FASCISM!! ... seriously, no. [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Golbol Easter Egg ==

The section about the Easter Egg says that the logo in the background of the golbol belongs to the New York Yankees.

In fact, it belongs to the New York Mets. (Mookie Wilson played for the Mets) {{unsigned|68.203.142.206|12:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)}}

:Thanks for point this out, but a hint for next time – if you see a clear mistake in the article, you don't need to tell us about it, just go in and fix it... taking it to the talk page is generally only necessary if you're not sure, or others don't agree. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

::That may all be well and good, but is it more than a coincidence that this toon came out just after the "Yankees finish historic sweep of Red Sox"? It would seem that would be rewarded with a gold bowl.

::: It is a coincidence. It's not a Yankees logo.

:::: Correct. The Mets and Yankees both have "NY" in their logos but they are arranged very distinctly. See the page backgrounds [http://www.mets.com/ here] and [http://www.yankees.com here] to compare the logos (in fact, it almost looks like the Mets logo in the Easter Egg could have been taken directly from the Mets website -- notice the angle!). But on a related note, does anyone think that it's worthy of note as trivia in the article that two days before this toon appeared on the site, Mookie Wilson (who has barely ever been in the news since the Mets won the World Series in 1986) appeared at a big ceremony at the Mets stadium with many of his '86 comrades marking the 20th anniversary of the championship and that Wilson was the one to speak on behalf of all the players present in accepting the honor? [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 23:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

::::: Here is an [http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060819&content_id=1618842&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym article] about Saturday's ceremony. Mookie Wilson is shown in the accompanying picture. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::: I still don't see the Logo anywhere, where exactly is it in the toon!! Am I just blind?

== hewwo ==

he doesn't normally mispronounce l's

:Hmm... He does on every single main page...Just scroll over email. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 17:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

==Stong Bad vs. Strond Bad==
When I looked at the autograph egg, Strong Bad's inscription is signed "Strond Ba... wait a sec" instead of "Stong" as is mentioned in the transcript. It's possible that this will change randomly, I suppose, although I checked it a couple of times (in different windows) and it remains "Strond". I hesitate to change it, though, because TBC have done random stuff before, so maybe someone else can see what they get. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 14:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

== Fowl/Foul Language ==
Since Pom Pom only speaks in bubbles, we can never really know what he is saying. But from the reaction of Homestar and Strong Bad, not to mention Homestar's comment of toning the language down... couldn't this be considered the first time TBC actually have one of their characters use curse words? I mean we know they were always wanting to do that one day? ;)--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 00:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:[[Swears]]. Sorry to crush your hopes and dreams! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

:{edit conflict} You mean apart from the ones listed in [[Swears]]? And it would also be possible for him to say something very nasty without actually using swear words. So it's really just speculation. Either way, looking at Strong Bad's expression, it must have been pretty tough stuff. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
::That's typical "character you can't understand" behavior. I think it was done with The Cheat multiple times before. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 01:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:Um...... wow. I wasn't aware of the Swears page! lol. Yeah, and uh, apparently I haven't noticed all those other times they borderline'd it on cursing! lol.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 02:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Voice connections ==

Ok, so 1) Mr. Bland sounds a lot like Mike or Matt. And 2) The Grape Faerie sounds like a Bronx version of Homestar. Well, they're noted on this talk page now. These observations, and ones like them, aren't really relevant to the toon, and should remain off the main toon page. What could be blander than doing ''no'' voice impression at all for Mr. Bland? And certainly it's possible that some of Matt's voices will sound alike in some way—they're all coming out of the same mouth, dontcha know—so these are unnotable. Thanks for your time, and keep on tranglin'. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:Agree. Thanks, Qer. It's Matt, btw everybody. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:11, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Homestar? ==

According to the transcript, The Announcer says "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Homestar", but every time I listen to it, I hear "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-Dunce" (or possibly "Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-Loser"), which would also explain Homestar's suprised look. --[[User:81.94.65.69|81.94.65.69]] 05:56, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:He could just be surprised coz he doesn't get a good introduction, like the minor characters do. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:: He's just rushing it when he says it. He seems to rush Homestar's name most of all, adding to the confusion. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I slowed it down and listened closely - the "and" is more of a "'n'", and the "ar" at the end of "Homestar" is nearly missing entirely, but it's very definately "Homestar". {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:50, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
:I heard it 3 times (with earbuds), and he clearly said "Doofus". [[User:Stomhar|Stomhar]]

Strongest Man in the World

2006-08-23T20:56:45Z

Zonis: /* Real-World References */

{{toonnav|Big Toon|10years|Weclome Back|The King of Town DVD}}

[[Image:Strongest Man Contest Judges.png|thumb|"Really quite an impressive bowl!"]]
[[The Brothers Chaps]] celebrate [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]]'s 10th anniversary with a remake of the [[Original Book|original story]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|The Announcer}}, {{Film|Mr. Bland}}, {{Film|The Robot (storybook)}}, {{Film|Señor}}, {{Film|The Grape Fairie}}, [[The Fat Bee]]

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Gymnasium]]

'''Date:''' August 21, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 4:25

'''Page Title:''' The Homestar Runner Enters the Longest Page Title on the Website Contest!

==Transcript==
''{The cover page of the Original Book appears. The book opens to the first page.}''

''{Homestar Runner changes into his modern form, and the old background is replaced by The Field.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Everybody loves the me! I'm a terrific athlete!

''{Pom Pom enters and pulls out a flier}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubble noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' A strongest man in the world contest? ''{pan to a closeup of Homestar Runner}'' Oh, sweet dog, you know I'm all over it.

''{Pan to the gymnasium, where Homestar Runner and Pom Pom are wearing aerobic gear and lifting weights. The training music from [[montage]] is playing in the background.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Extra-size, Pom Pom! Lemme see ya pour on that extra sauce! That strangest man in the world contest ain't gonna win itself!

''{Pan to a scene of the setting sun. Silhouettes of Homestar Runner and Pom Pom jump up and high five each other.}''

'''SINGER:''' Showdown!

''{Fade out. Cut back to the Field, where Homestar Runner and Pom Pom are walking to the right.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Man, Pom Pom, I feel great! I feel fresh as a bagel! I bet I could lift fifty stringiest man in the world contests!

''{They approach a sign pointing the way to the contest, where Strong Bad and The Cheat are waiting.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, look, The Cheat! If it isn't the big, fat, yellow blob and Pom Pom!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{closeup of Homestar}'' Hey! ''{normal view}'' W— wait. ''{closer closeup of Homestar}'' Hey! ''{normal view}'' You— wait. ''{another closeup}'' Hey! ''{normal view}'' Wait—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Lemme break it down for you like this: I am the very strongest. While on the other hand, inversely, you guys are ''not'' very strong!

'''POM POM:''' ''{looks angry, loud bubble noises}''

''{Strong Bad reacts in surprise.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoa, Pom Pom! Let's tone down the language before the contest, huh?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Come on, The Cheat. We'd better go start signing autographs. There's a pretty big line building up over there. ''{exits with The Cheat}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{looks annoyed}'' Come on, Pom Pom! Let's go get Strong Bad's autograph! ''{Pom Pom gives Homestar a funny look, but Homestar doesn't notice}'' I hear there's a pretty big line building up.

''{Cheering voices over momentarily before cutting to a banner reading "Strongest Man In The World Contest".}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover over microphone}'' Ladies and gentlemen, you can ''not'' be ready for the ''{pan down to show The Announcer}'' Strongest Man In The World Contest!

''{He flips the microphone from one hand to the other.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Let's meet our smokin' hot contestants!

''{Cut to a silhouette of Mr. Bland with disco lights in the background.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Hailing from the middle of the road, the prince of plain, the master of mundane, it's ''{spotlight turns on}'' Mr. Bland!

''{Cut to a beige background of panning cubes and "mr. bland" scrolls to the right. Mr. Bland strikes an action pose. Cut back to The Announcer.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' And next, our returning champion, the walking—

''{Cut to a smiliar disco lights scene with The Robot in silhouette.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' —metal robot... The Robot!

''{A spotlight shines on The Robot and he waves. A blue background of screws and hex nuts pans in, and "The Robot" appears while The Robot holds a waving pose. Cut back to The Announcer.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' And from Foreign Lands, the foreign man:

''{Cut back to the disco scene, now with Señor in silhouette.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Señor Ha-Ha-Ha-Havin' A Little Trouble!

''{A brown background of beans pans in, and "Señor" appears while Señor strikes an action pose.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' And...

''{Cut to silhouettes of Pom Pom, Strong Bad, and Homestar Runner, whose respective spotlights turn on as their names are mentioned.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{quickly}'' Pom-Pom-Strong-Bad-and-Homestar.

''{Homestar looks surprised. Cut back to The Announcer.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Grape Fairie! Hit me with da rules!

''{Pan up to The Grape Fairie riding his bee. He makes a scroll appear that reads "Rules".}''

'''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' ''{in a Bronx accent}'' All right, you slow brains, listen up smart. I start yas each off with like twenty grapes.

''{A pile of grapes takes the place of the floating scroll.}''

'''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' Then I adds one at a time.

''{A grape appears above the pile.}''

'''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' The bum what holds the most grapes —

''{A golden bowl-shaped trophy appears in place of the grapes.}''

'''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' — wins this gold bowl.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{from offscreen; sounds impressed}'' Dang, Pom Pom, you see that golbol? ''{zooms in on "golbol"}'' That's a nice golbol.

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Let's get this over with!

'''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' Ollzy oop. ''{zaps a pile of grapes on top of the contestants}''

'''MR. BLAND:''' ''{speaking monotone}'' Okay.... This is going really well.

''{The pile of grapes crushes Mr. Bland.}''

'''MR. BLAND:''' Oh.

''{Cut to silhoettes of everyone on a yellow background.}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' Down goes Bland!

'''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' Ka-bu op! ''{pings a single grape over each contestant}''

''{Cut to Señor, impossibly balancing the entire pile on one hand.}''

'''SEÑOR:''' Oh, no, boy. I havin' a little trouble!

''{The pile falls on Señor with a "Sblounskched!" He sticks his arm out of the grapes}''

'''SEÑOR:''' I still alive!

''{Cut to Strong Bad and The Cheat, with Pom Pom in the background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, The Cheat—

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —I hear our friend The Robot is about to do a set of his acoustic numbers. Or should I say, unplugged?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmative The Cheat noises, salutes}''

''{The Cheat slides to the feet of The Robot, who is apparently plugged into an outlet on a very small section of wall out of nowhere.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}'' ''{looks around, unplugs The Robot's cord, and slides away}'' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{Cut to The Robot, who shuts down and drops the pile of grapes. General sad "Aw"s among the crowd are heard as the eyes of The Robot disappear slowly.}''

''{Cut to Homestar, whose grapes appear to be floating in mid-air, due to his lack of visible arms.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{looks around}'' Did nobody just see that?! Judge? Fairie? Giant bee?

''{Cut to The Grape Fairie and The Announcer, who are admiring the bowl and not paying attention to the contest.}''

'''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' Honest to God, Mookie Wilson gave me the golbol in my hands in 1974.

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' Really quite an impressive bowl.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{off screen}'' Hellooo?

'''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' Oh. Right.

''{Cut to Pom Pom, Strong Bad, and Homestar.}''

'''THE GRAPE FAIRIE:''' ''{poofs another grape on top of everyone}'' Crazy eights!

''{Strong Bad begins to lose his grip on the grapes.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat? Big help here! Big help!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{rushes over}'' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay.... Even it out there on the south side.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Jump her up.

''{Cut to Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right, seriously. At first it was cute, but this is just borderline unsportsmanlike! Let me outline my master plan. I will (a) drop my grapes, and (b) uncover that cheat! ''{drops his grapes; walks over to Strong Bad and The Cheat}'' Could I just borrow this a second? ''{grabs The Cheat}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{surprised The Cheat noises}''

''{Homestar kicks The Cheat about his feet like a hackey-sack, then does a slow-motion flip and bicycle kicks The Cheat off screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{melodramatically}'' Oh-nooo! ''{gets squished by his pile of grapes}''

''{The action-pose scene appears, this time with a green grapes background, "squished bad", and Strong Bad under his pile of grapes.}''

''{Cut to Pom Pom}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' Pom Pom wins!

''{Pom Pom winks; a record scratch sounds, cut to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wait, what?!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ooh.... These grapes are succulently crushing my windpipe.... Ooh, but they're seedless! ''{The pile of grapes begins to collapse as Strong Bad eats it}''

''{Cut to Homestar and Pom Pom holding the trophy.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right, seriously, Pom Pom. Gimme the golbol!

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubble noises, pulls the trophy back a bit}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, that's great. But I still won. I sportsmanliked everybody! Now gimme the golbol!

'''POM POM:''' ''{bubble noises}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right, fine. You can give it to me for my birthday. Now check out my victory dance! Huhyayayayaaa!

''{Homestar crosses his left leg over his right and jumps into the air. The Grape Fairie and the Fat Bee enter from the upper right, the announcer from the lower left. Pom Pom jumps in the air holding the trophy. The scene fades into the last page of the Original Book with "1996-2006" written across the upper left. The ending also provides a link to the original book.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Strongestmanintheworld_sbautograph.png|thumb|Dare to Dream!]]
*Clicking on the [[Contests|Contest]] sign when Homestar mentions getting Strong Bad's autograph will show a picture of said autograph, on which is written:
<blockquote>homestar, 
dare to dream! believe in yourself 
and you can achieve anything!! 
your pal 
Strond Ba... 
wait a sec, 
2nd try: 
homestar, 
you're 
a butt. 
''Strong'' 
''Bad''</blockquote>

*Clicking the [[Trophies|trophy]] at the end shows a shot of it (captioned "GOLBOL") in the same style as the ones shown when Mr. Bland, The Robot, and Señor are introduced. The [[Wikipedia:New York Mets|New York Mets]] logo is shown in the background.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*"Unplugged" is a term popularized by [[Wikipedia:MTV Unplugged|MTV Unplugged]] and is used to refer to [[Wikipedia:Acoustic music|acoustic music]].

===Trivia===
*The [[Main Page Messages|main page message]] for this toon read "10 years!".
*This toon is the first time The Grape Fairie, Mr. Bland, and Señor are given a voice.
*Despite its attempt, this toon's page title is not the longest one of the website. [[Shopping for Danger]]'s page title "Blue Las-alert, Kids! Cheat Commandos will be right back after these messages!" surpasses it by five characters. They are, however, both 19 syllables long.

===Remarks===
*When The Grape Fairie's mouth disappears when he isn't talking, his [[Wikipedia:Five o'clock shadow|five o'clock shadow]] disappears with it.
*When Homestar holds up the grapes, they float as if he's controlling them with his mind rather than with [[Lack of Visible Arms|invisible arms]].
**Homestar's invisible arms are also emphasized in the high-five scene.
*Señor may also defy physics. He holds the pile on one side with the other half of the pile mysteriously floating in mid-air. This was also true in the original book.
*The way the grapes fall on Strong Bad, he should be laying on his stomach since he was holding the pile behind his head. However in the action scene, "squished bad," Strong Bad is shown laying on his back so that he could eat them in the next scene.

===Goofs===
*When Mr. Bland, The Robot and Señor are introduced, the smaller spotlights cross over their feet, yet none of the characters' feet light up.
* In the silhouette scene following Mr. Bland's loss, the grapes are actually floating above Pom Pom.
*The first page says "Everyone loves The Homestar Runner..." instead of "Everybody loves The Homestar Runner...", which would have been the correct quote from the original book.

===Inside References===
[[Image:Strongestmanintheworld_kickthecheat.png|thumb|All part of his master plan.]]
*When Señor gets squished, the [[Wikipedia:onomatopoeia|onomatopoeia]] used is "[[SBLOUNSKCHED! Bar|Sblounskched!]]".
*The song during the training scene is "[[Songs#from Strong Bad Emails|Showdown]]" from [[montage]], except with vocals by someone who sounds like [[Larry Palaroncini]].
*The outfit Homestar wears during the training scene originally appeared in [[lady fan]].
*The autographed picture of Strong Bad in the Easter egg is the same as the one that Strong Bad gives to his "main man" Van Mundegaarde in [[2 years]].
*Homestar is shown [[Kicking The Cheat]], albeit in a more elaborate fashion than in the original book.
*Señor's line "I still alive!" may be a reference to [[Strumstar Hammer]], in which this scene is captioned with the line "this blue guy died."
**It could also be a reference to [[origins]], in which Señor (along with Mr. Bland) is crushed by a falling [[Bubs' Concession Stand]].
*One of the sound effects that plays when the Robot gets unplugged is the loading sound from [[Thy Dungeonman 3]].
*Homestar's first speaking line is an example of an [[Integral Article|Integral Article]]
*The ending music is the remix of the [[Old Intro|old intro music]], which is also heard at the end of [[flashback]] and can also be heard on [[Main Page 20]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Mookie Wilson|Mookie Wilson]] is a former [[Wikipedia:Major League Baseball|Major League Baseball]] outfielder who played with the [[Wikipedia:New York Mets|New York Mets]] from 1980 to 1989. The Mets' logo is shown in the background of the Easter egg.

*[[Wikipedia:Crazy Eights|Crazy Eights]] is a Card Game in which two players try to get rid of all their cards by discarding a card with the same number or suite as the previous card played. In this game, Eights are wild.

==External Links==
*[[HR:10years.html|watch "Strongest Man in the World"]]
*[[HR:strongestmanredux.swf|view the Flash file for "Strongest Man in the World"]]
*[[Forum:9577|forum thread re: "Strongest Man in the World"]]

Talk:lady...ing

2006-08-04T14:19:22Z

Zonis: /* Do you want my Bod? */

== Mustachioed Homestar Runner==

Well I guess this email answers the question about whether [[Mustachioed Homestar Runner]] was a unique character or not. Now we know that he at least has the same voice as Homestar. And I imagine that this is the first time we can actually see him without having to view the toon from its Flash file directly. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 00:50, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Could that be Fabrosi? Strong Bad mentioned that he was probably out lady-ing with a fake mustache. -- 71.34.147.24 20:37, 8 Aug 2005 (MDT)

Maybe Homestar wrote in using Fabrosi as a pseudonym...

A side note: Fabrosi could also be Homsar, since he wears a false mustache in his main page. [[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 19:10, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::If Fabrosi is in fact meant to be a real character, I think [http://http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/The_Announcer The Announcer] resembles SB's description the best. But I think "Fabrosi" is just a completely random character. --[[User:Skizzot|Skizzot]] 21:46, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Stocks and Stipes Forever ==
Toward the end of the email, Strong Bad says stocks are up and stipes are down. According to dictionary.com, a 'stipe' is "A supporting stalk or stemlike structure, especially the stalk of a pistil, the petiole of a fern frond, or the stalk that supports the cap of a mushroom". It's a bit of an unfamiliar word, I bet, so someone may want to add it to the Fun Facts. Just make sure no one alludes 'stocks' to being like 'stalks'. That's a bit too much of a stretch. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::I agree. TBC is very good at making such obscure allusions to things that require a bit more knowledge to know about. From the definition it sounds like it correlates perfectly, too. --[[User:64.164.69.221|64.164.69.221]] 10:05, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::I have added the definition to Real-world references and changed stocks to stalks. --[User:Eman|Eman]

::::I changed it back. Strong bad types '''stocks'''. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:39, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Stipes, TBC and Georgia==

I'm surprised the no one has mentioned Michael Stipe since TBC are from Georgia and so is ... oh, never mind! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 18:43, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I thought the same thing. - [[User:211.28.51.186|211.28.51.186]] 06:51, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Buisness/Ab-Abber ==

I don't feel confident to put this on the main page, but is it possible he says "buisness"? And I'm a little surprised no one's tried to note the similarity between his appearance when he says "muscular" and the handiwork of the Ab-Abber 2000 (granted, not identical; he HAS pecs here).--notstrongorbad

I noticed that too. I second the motion but I'm still not confident enough to add it. I'd wait for the DVD so people can find out by reading the subtitles. -- Octan

== Kicking The Cheat ==
Don't we have enough for this to be a bona fide [[:Category:Running Gags|running gag]]? Namely:

*[[little animal]].
*Strong Bad threatens to kick The Cheat a couple times at the end of [[caper]].
*He tells Homestar to give The Cheat (hiding under the box)a "swift kick in The Cheat" in [[replacement]].
*He also mentions "Kickin' Cheats 'till the day I die" in [[replacement]].
*Mentioned in [[do over]].
*This email.

[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:35, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I agree. [[User:Trey56|Trey56]]
::Yeah, totally. That's totally a worthwhile running gag. Don't forget the [[Kick the Cheat]] plushie too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
I thought it was already a running gag. Somebody should get on this. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 20:44, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Page begun here: [[Kicking The Cheat]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:48, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Cat ==
I think SB says "or holy-crap-adorable cat"...why else would Marzipan comment that it smells like litterbox? Maybe that's just me. --[[User:Cocoa|Cocoa]]

:Meh, sounds like "pet". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:06, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I hear "pet" as well, and Marzipan isn't making a whole lot of sense in this email anyway. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 00:14, 10 August 2005 (BST)

::Then it's just me. :/ --[[User:Cocoa|Cocoa]]

== The Fabrosi ==

I don't hear the "the" in "What did you two do to (the) Fabrosi". But since about 1.5% max of the users here ever agree with me on matters like this, discuss. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:05, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:There's no "the". It's just "What'd you two do to Fabrosi?" — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:05, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::I hope you don't mind that I combined the two topic headings that were created nigh-simultaneously. That said, if Dot com agrees with me... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:07, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't hear a "the" either. I think the repetition of the same "oo" sound has confused people's ears. I once thought there was a "the", but I gave it another listen and found that it was the "you two do to" confusing my ears. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::No, there's definitely no 'the' in there. The ears want to hear "What did you do to Fabrosi?" but the two beforehand throws it off, making the to, which he pronounces 'tuh', sound like a the. So what the ear actually hears is "What did you do to the Fabrosi?", even though that's not what he said. It took me several times to catch that though. {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 03:58, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
::I was unsure if it was "the," but there definitely is some syllable in between there... - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
He doesn't type a the... {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:33, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

== Genghis the Mongolian ==

Should we add that Genghis Khan lotion for women is referencing the ‘Mongolian aftershave lotion’ mentioned by Strong Bad or is it common knowedge Genghis was from Mongolia?-[[User:The Pardack|the Pardack]]
: It's already there, under Real-World References. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:29, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Didn't notice that, boy do I feel dumb. [[User:The Pardack|the Pardack]]
:: Ah, don't worry. Everyone makes mistakes sometimes. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:32, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Inside Reference? ==
"Even though Strong Bad says he would not openly admit that he could never get ladies, he did accidently say he doesn't know anything about the ladies at the end of lures & jigs."

Is this really an inside joke? If anything, I'd call this a fun fact, but it's not even very fun. I think any relation between the two is coincidental at best. -FatPamPam

:You have a point, although I think you meant "Is it an inside ''reference?''" No, it's really not. The item has been moved to "Remarks". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:27, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Slightly Different?==
I've seen this fact thrashing in and out over the last couple of days. Is this really notable?

<blockquote>The old-fashioned Homestar in this email has a lower voice than his Marshmallow's Last Stand counterpart, sounding slightly more like his modern self. Strong Bad's voice is also slightly different and sounds more like his modern counterpart.</blockquote>

Slightly different? We normally kill stuff with language like that. Isn't it unlikely that an MLS-era voice would be "performed" precisely as it was years ago? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:09, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I didn't write this fact. I just put it back in because I don't like it when an anonymous user deletes something substantial without so much as a word of explanation. As for the fact itself, meh, I could probably go either way. If you really think it should go, you know what to do. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:39, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Oh, yeah. I know what to do! ;) -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:44, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::I meant you should STUFF it. Which I have now done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:41, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== STUFF'd fact false ==

Even though it's too late to change it (it was already unanimously declined), I noticed that the fun fact that said "suppleties" means "supplements" in Dutch was blatantly false. I looked it up on Alta Vista, and the Dutch word for "supplements" is "supplementen." Wish I'd caught that beforehand. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 22:20, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Did you do a "Dutch to English" translation of "suppleties"? I got an English translation of "supplements". Also, google "suppleties" ... lots of hits on sites in Dutch. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 22:27, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:I'm confused, Kerrek Slayer... you wish the fact hadn't already been declined so that you could give an even-better reason to decline it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:56, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Well, I dunno if the "even-better" reason was really "even-better". The "Dutch-to-English" translation of "suppleties" is indeed "supplements". Assuming you believe altavista's babelfish, of course. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:52, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::The translator at worldlingo.com agrees. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:56, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::Right. I should have said "''supposedly'' even-better". The fact that ISlayedTheKerrek considered it a better reason was what I was getting at. I was curious about why he seemed to wish the item was still open... So we could decline it with more oomph, or something? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:01, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::I'm a lot less inclined to believe "suppleties" means supplements, because I know a few people that speak Dutch, amazing as that may be, and they told me it was "supplementen." --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:38, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::But you didn't answer my original question. The one that begins "I'm confused..." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

::::::It's gotta mean ''something'' in Dutch. [http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-13,GGLD:en&q=suppleties This] search turns up all kinds of Dutch sites. -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 19:17, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Well, it's dot com, I wish I had caught it earlier. That's all there is to it. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:55, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::::Cool. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== The return of the unamed girl!!! ==

in the sahdow, we si a girl who look like in the old game of dancing bubs!
* No, it's clearly a different girl, it's the same sillhouetted girl from the crowd in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Not Unnamed Girl. --[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 21:27, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Homestar ==
Did anyone else think that when "Strong Bad" threw the anvil into the crowd, the guy sounded like PBTC Homestar? I know it's not, but...weird. TBC may be a-running out of voices! ''{crowd gasps}'' YOU A-SHUT UP! [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 00:02, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Cheatachu, you're onta sumfin! [[User:SupremeRulerOfSBadia|SupremeRulerOfSBadia]] 17:00, 5 Oct 2005

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== I hear voices ===
{{stufffact|The old-fashioned Homestar in this email has a lower voice than his Marshmallow's Last Stand counterpart, sounding slightly more like his modern self. Strong Bad's voice is also slightly more relaxed and sounds more like his modern counterpart.}}
{{stuffverdict|18:41, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)|03:07, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)|accepted|13|8|lady...ing}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== What about Van Mundegaarde?===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's comments about his closest friends are devoid of mention of his self-proclaimed (in [[2_years|2 years]]) main man, Van Mundegaarde.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:20, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)|03:41, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)|declined|16|13|lady...ing}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Adorable The Cheat's blue eyes ===
{{stufffact|Adorable The Cheat shares [[20X6_The_Cheat|20X6 The Cheat]]'s irresistible blue eyes.}}
{{stuffverdict|15:58, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)|03:41, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)|accepted|16|12|lady...ing}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Long Pants reference ===
{{stufffact|This is another reference to [[Homestar's Pants]].}}
{{stuffverdict|20:51, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)|01:23, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted ([[:Category:Running Gags|running gag]])|19|6|lady...ing}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Holy crap! ===
{{stufffact|Although Strong Bad says "Holy crap" a lot in the flashback, he never actually used this phrase in Marshmallow's Last Stand.}}
{{stuffverdict|01:53, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)|01:06, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|25|8|lady...ing}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Ice Creme Fixation===
{{stufffact|This is the second instance where Strong Bad ends his email by saying that he wants ice cream. The first instance was [[kids' book]].}}
{{stuffverdict|16:40, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)|06:59, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)|declined (and retracted by author)|9|2|lady...ing}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Anchorman Strong Bad?===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's using of gasoline as cologne may be a reference to the movie Anchorman, in which Ron Burgundy tells Brian Fantana that his sex panther cologne "smells like pure gasoline."}}
{{stuffverdict|15:50, 10 Aug 2005 (UTC)|06:59, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|14|1|lady...ing}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Broken Lappy Screen (Goofs) ===
{{stufffact|While Strong Bad is sleeping at the end of the email (after he ducks out for the creme brulee ice creme), the Lappy's screen doesn't give the distortion effect it usually does when you click on it.}}
{{stuffverdict|16:30, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)|14:11, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)|unanimously accepted|18|0|lady...ing}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Bubble Teas? ===
{{stufffact|Homestar's "bubbleties" is aurally identical to "Bubble tea," a fashionable drink involving chilled tea and large tapioca balls. Is this worth including in "Real-World References," even though by no stretch of the imagination could it be considered an outright allusion?}}
{{stuffverdict|04:52, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)|19:21, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|19|1|lady...ing}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Suppleties ===
{{stufffact|The word "suppleties" means "supplements" in Dutch.}}
{{stuffverdict|06:54, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)|19:21, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)|unanimously declined|14|0|lady...ing}}

== Strong Bad's exact height ==

Surprised I'm the first to pick up on this eMail's potential for beautifully pointless nitpickery and obssessive fandom. Think about it: a laserdisc is held onscreen, perfectly parallel to the plane of the camera lens, and apparently the exact same distance from said lens as Strong Bad's head. Laserdiscs have a diameter of precisely 30 centimeters. We now know Strong Bad's exact height. That's one step away from knowing his shoe size. That's yet another step away from actually stalking a fictional character. Just think of the potential; "Homsar's hat leaps exactly 14.7 centimeters above his head", "The Thnikkaman's shades appear to be <brand name>, but are 0.3 millimeters too wide, et-bloody-cetera". Or I suppose we could just take note of Strong Bad and the Cheat's height, since it's the kind of delightfully meaningless factoid on which true fanboys and fangirls thrive.
Update: Ding! ~76 centimeters, or a mere 2'6''. I suppose I'll just add this in, under "remarks".

:Can we compare it to The Cheat's hight in [[Where's The Cheat?]]? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:42, 27 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Hey, whatever floats the collective wikiboat. On a related note, someone seems to have delorted this particular Fun Fact without providing a reason or STUFFing the entry. I suppose I'll restore it until such a reason/vote is forthcoming.

:::What do you mean, "without providing a reason"? Read the edit summaries. You are right about one thing, though: it's pointless nitpickery. There's ''no way'' you can assume TBC would have tried to get the size of the laserdisc accurate to the point of its being used as a standard of measure. They made it look "about right" on screen, nothing more. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:15, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::My bad, not sure how I overlooked that. [[User:85.64.210.95|85.64.210.95]] 01:44, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::::TBC probably just exaggurated the size of the laserdisc. Most people don't know how exactly big a laserdisc is, a lot of people have probably never seen one. They just know they're big. So standard caricature action comes into play when it gets cartoonised - people know they're big, so make it huge. {{User:phlip/sig}} 15:44, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::::You're both absolutely right, but I fail to see how that's in any way relevant. Obviously the disc was never actually intended for size comparison, but that's why this is the Wiki That Should Not Be. TBC make hilarious toons. That's what they do. Continuity, internal consistency, the fourth wall, none of these things matter to them, so long as they get the joke across. This wiki, in contrast, endeavors to turn the Homestarverse into some sort of rational, objective, well-documented world, and keep a straight face the whole while. We bring order to chaos, even when there's no good reason to do so. When TBC put a 'stashed Homestar just outside the frame, that's just a visual non sequitur. When this wiki gets light of said 'stashed Homestar, it wonders whether this might be the former King of Town, the one that's supposedly Marzipan's dad. When we realize there's no way the Gravy Train could fit a captain that's over half a million ladies tall, we fudge the numbers to make it work. So c'mon; just because this was clearly unintentional, doesn't mean it isn't worth noting. SB's bleeding tiny, he is. About as tall as puppet Strong Bad.[[User:85.64.210.95|85.64.210.95]] 01:44, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::::But compare Strong Bad to all the other objects around, like his computer. Is he living in a dwarf world, and The Cheat brought a laserdisc from elsewhere? I'll believe that the laserdisc was extra big before I believe the whole H*R universe is extra small. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 01:50, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, you must think I am a jak a** for pointing it out, I am ashamed, for I would not want any one to do the same. I mean look at this, this rite her, calculating pi would be easier than correcting all my misspellings 'n ty[oes! -[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 01:57, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== First Email? ==
So if that little flashback sequence in the wrestling pit area was the REAL first e-mail, then what about "some kinda robot"? That is labeled as the first e-mail, so does that make the wrestling pit email #0? [[User:Ian911299|Ian911299]]
:To borrow a phrase from the [[Email FAQ]]: 'Twas a joke. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:30, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
I think Fabrosi's email was fake. Well, now that I think about it, I think it was ''probably'' fake. Just a joke. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:43, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

== Bush's Baked Beans ==

What's up with the link to www.bushbeans.com/jayduke/ads.jsp? If an external link is used, the link doesn't appear at all. I can't use HTML for the link, either, I end up with <a href=""></a>. I've compromised by putting the link in text after (having to chop off http://, though), but if anyone can resolve it... --[[User:65.145.122.42|65.145.122.42]] 21:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

:Done. It works if you use wiki syntax for the link: <nowiki>[http://www.bushbeans.com/jayduke/ads.jsp]</nowiki> gets you [http://www.bushbeans.com/jayduke/ads.jsp]. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:24, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== Nipple Regeneration ==

See [http://www.annalsplasticsurgery.com/pt/re/annps/abstract.00000637-200502000-00017.htm;jsessionid=E4D76c5vCS7A1I3MZWqTlg0evrIv45vnyN41O2qS7peAtkWinvfS!-837306200!-949856144!9001!-1 this study] - it apparently is possible, if not a fact. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:13, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

:Wow. Well that's... Disturbing. Thanks anyways Qermaq. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:17, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
::Oh, don't thank me, thank Dot Com, it was his idea. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:20, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
::It was with rats. Not humans or Strong Bads. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:19, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Still, if it happens in one mammal, it's very likely to happen in others. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:20, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
::::'''EDIT:'''Oh yeah. It said female rats. That's two factors which Strong Bad is not: rat and female. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:23, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Well, I mean, one mammal. So, the fact should say: Strong Bad would most likely regenerate his nipples because female rats did". No offense, but that sounded really weird. I just think no. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:23, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Who said Strong Bad is a mammal? ;) (I know, someone's gonna probably shove some scientific mumbo-jumbo in my face that somehow "proves" Strong Bad is a mammal after I post this...) {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:23, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Reading more, it said they were "regenerated", but they were hurt by insicion. Revised fact: "Strong Bad would most likely regenerate his sanded off nipples because female rats did with their vertically cut nipples." {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:25, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:Wanna know what's even more disturbing? This talk page is the fourth item in the google search results for [http://www.google.com/search?q=Nipple+Regeneration&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official nipple regeneration]. {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 02:46, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Maybe he sands his nipples often to prevent regeneration? {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:51, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

== Do you want my Bod? ==

When Strongbad ask's Marzipan if she "wants his bod", it is a reference to a cologne commerical "Bod Man", seen here: http://www.parfumsdecoeur.com/bod_ads.cfm
:[http://m-w.com/dictionary/bod Bod] is just a slang term for "body"... not a reference to anything. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

:: -Strongbad puts on "Mongolian aftershave lotion" and then walks up to Marzipan and asks "Marzipan. Do you want a-my bod!", watch the commericals in the link, and you will see the reference is pretty clear.

Talk:lady...ing

2006-08-04T05:57:33Z

Zonis: Do you want my Bod?

Talk:lunch special

2006-08-04T04:51:05Z

Zonis: Basketball egg

== MS Paint ==

I might just be reaching here, but isn't it odd that Strong Bad refers to MS Paint as MS Paint, since there is no evidence that Microsoft or Windows exists in the H*R universe? --[[User:65.101.153.252|65.101.153.252]] 19:57, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Well, here's your evidence that Microsoft exists in the H*R universe! :) There's also the blue screen of death, and the parody of the Windows '95 shutdown screen. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 00:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The Cheat's Imac proves that Macintosh exists, so why wouldn't Mirosoft?-[[User:Jhonka|Jhonka]]

== Flooding Bubs Out ==

It is interesting to see Strong Bad flooding Bubs out since we see in [[geddup noise]] that he has a basement. SB must've poured a lot of water in there! Fast forward candidate?
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:40, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:It seems a little iffy to me... I can hear the revert excuses now: 'Maybe he didn't have the basement yet.' 'Maybe it was sealed too tightly for water to seep in.' But it is an interesting point nonetheless... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Yeah I thought of those too. I just like to conveniently choose not to hear them ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:02, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Basketball egg ==

could it be yet another reference to "Reg had the ball at the top of the key", as it is the stuff of legends?

Talk:Main Pages

2006-08-03T01:26:34Z

Zonis: Main Page Button Bug?

{{featuredarticle}}
== Bold? ==

On each main page, should each category (toons, games, characters) be bolded? I think they should. -- [[User:FireBird|FireBird]]|[[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]]

== 2005? ==

Should we take new screenshots of the main pages for 2005 and get rid of the old ones? →[[User:evin290|evin290]]

:No, I don't think we need to.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:55, 21 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Click and drag trick==

Do we really need the instances of the click and drag trick in the fun facts for each main page? Isn't mentioning it here enough? [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 20:05, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
: That was the standard until today(?). I'd have figured that it would have been mentioned here if it had changed, but obviously, your comment is the only one. Was there any consenses as to the change? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 20:21, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)
::I just noticed somebody editing this info into the fun facts of each main page earlier this evening. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 20:26, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Yeah, we always excluded that information as "flash-byproducts" in the past. Is it worth keeping now?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:22, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::I don't see why it'd be worth keeping. It's not "fun," although it IS a fact. In any event, it's a flash glitch, probably should go byebye. -- [[User:AgentSeethroo|AgentSeethroo]] 09:25, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::::I'm new here, and I added that stuff because I thought it would be okay. Anydangway, someone suggested that maybe there could be a different category (besides Fun Facts) to put them all on, called "Click-and-Drag Bugs" or something like that. So, yeah. Anyways, you guys can delete all that stuff, except for the actual facts I added that are unique to the pages. --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 12:28, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::::I think we should delete all "fun facts" that are something like, "If you roll over 'email', then quickly roll over 'games', it looks like ...". These aren't anything interesting. Just little tricks with flash. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:::::::I've gone ahead and deleted all Flash tricks from the Main Pages. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::::::::Great jorb! [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 20:56, 28 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::::::::Bad jorb! They're interesting, and they're fun. I like them, and I'd never have known about them if they weren't on the wiki. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 13:14, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

== Different Website ==
Does anyone know that if you go to www.homsar.com, you will go to some wierd pic of someone rock climbing? Can someone explain please?

WAIT! Never mind... It's something else... Like some writing...

== Change of Title?==

If you type "Main Page" without a "s" you go to the home page. Should we change the title? - Catman87(user page being worked on)

== Gallery ==

Does anyone think this should be a gallery, like [[Items]] or [[Characters]]?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 01:06, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Meh, I think that this page doesn't need a gallery. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:07, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Why not go for it? We already have the images. Let's at least see how it looks. Put it at the bottom to start. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:09, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::I think this begs for a gallery. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 01:10, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::I'll do the first five, and if anyone thinks it's bad, say so.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 01:12, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::First five=done. Comments?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 01:17, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::::Looks good, but the images are a little small for me. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:18, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::::The image size in a gallery is always 120px x 120px max. It might look better at the bottom without all the page title business. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:22, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

if that is all it can get, I don't like it. I simply can't see the screenshots well. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:29, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:But can you see the screenshots well enough to tell which main pages they are?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 01:31, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I don't like it. I'm kind of not liking this overuse of galleries. (I liked it with characters and items, but that's all) Anyway, I like having the page titles up there on the list, along with our own name. If we do use the gallery, we need to have our own names up there along with the number, because its sometimes to hard to see what each main page is about, in "Main Page #" is hardly descriptive enough. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 01:32, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I guess I'll be fine with it as long as it has the "Main Page #" part '''and''' our little name for it. (In a neat manner of course, like 20X6 characters.) - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 01:33, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::They're fine for the purpose we're using them for. As long as the screenshots are ''in addition to'' the rest of the page, then they're not hurting anything. Keep at it, BK. We need to see them all to get the full effect. The worst thing would only be that we look at it and decide to revert later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::No, I think that we are over using galleries. The galleries on Characters, Games, and Items were one thing, but are we going to use them for every list? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:44, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Dude, text is out of style. Galleries are cool. :) Seriously though, galleries are logical for some things... but my poor game list!!! :( - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]''''' 01:46, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::What about the other menus?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 02:03, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::::Oh! Good job Dot com!--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 02:34, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::::Rather, good jorb BK! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

::::::But why do we have both the original list '''and''' the gallery? --[[User:Sam Goldfish|Sam Goldfish]] 20:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::I think that's so the themes/page titles and stuff can be put in list form and be easier to search for. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::We could use a [[Wikipedia:Help:Table|table]] to list both the screenshots and the themes/page titles, like we do with the [[Toons|Toon]] page. --[[User:Sam Goldfish|Sam Goldfish]] 21:02, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::I like that. Tables make everything better. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::::Nah. The point of the gallery is so you can see them all at once. The point of the list is so that you can ''read'' them all at once and to give a little extra info. Having both is useful and keeps each individual section from being too cluttered. (In addition, I don't see why we need a screenshot next to every toon, but I'm not going to try and change that now.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:10, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::::Leave it the way it is. A table would make the pictures to small to be worth anything. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 21:20, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::::Leave it. Looks good for people who just want the text. For people who want too look at the pretty pics: Scroll down. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 21:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::::::But it's violating [[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once And Only Once]]... --[[User:Sam Goldfish|Sam Goldfish]] 21:40, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::::::What if we remove our names (i.e.: [[The Moon]], The Alps, Tropical island ect.) from the first of second list, and have just the page titles on the other? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 21:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::It's fine the way it is. Once and Only Once is a good guideline, but it's not a straitjacket. It can be overruled with the consent of those involved (another example is different ways we have ''chosen'' to list the Strong Bad Emails). Yes it means in this case that we have to update two lists, but they don't make new main pages often enough for that to be an issue. Plus, it's easy since both lists are on the same page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:52, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

==Old News Items==
I had decompiled [[HR:main8.swf|main8.swf]] and was looking through it, when I found some old news items, which were from before the news bubble was in a seperate .swf file. There's some interesting stuff on it, and they're all reallllly old.

Here's a list. I put them in order of where they are in the Flash library, from top to bottom, but judging by the content, I'd say the oldest one is at the bottom.

(Last Updated 10-2-01)
*[[HR:answer5.html|new answering machine]]
*[[HR:sbemail.html|3 new strong bad e mails!!]]
*[[HR:index.html|new intro]]

(Unknown Update Date)
*[[HR:store.html|strong bad shirts!!]]
*[[HR:sbemail2.html|new email strong bad]]

(Unknown Update Date)
*[[HR:store.html|store accepts credit cards!!]]
*[[HR:yellowdellomenu.html|Yello Dello Directors Cut]]
*[[HR:main14.html|New home page]]
*[[HR:kingmenu.html|King of Town Directors Cut]]
*[[HR:sbemail.html|E mail Strong Bad]]
*[[HR:answer4.html|new answering machine]]
*[[HR:marshmallow2.html|marshmellows last stand]]

(Unknown Update Date)
*[[HR:fluffypuff2.html|marshmellow commerical]]
*[[HR:main11.html|3 new home pages]]
*[[HR:store.html|T-shirts!!]]
*[[HR:quiz.html|pop quiz]]
*[[HR:answer3.html|new answering machine]]
*[[HR:museum.html|museum update]]

Just a bit of estimates - it would appear the [[some kinda robot|first Strong Bad Email]] was released about the same time as [[Marzipan's Answering Machine|Marzipan's Answering Machine 4]]. The [[homsar|second Strong Bad Email]] was released around the same time as there were Strong Bad shirts in the store, and many othert things.

If anybody could put some estimate dates on these, it'd be great. All of these should help fill in some of the items at [[H*R.com_updates_2001|this page]].

I have also uploaded a file to a place where you can see what the news bubbles look like: http://simpedia.5gigs.com/supersam/newsbuttons.swf

== Lowercase ==

The labels for the buttons read "'toons" (with an apostrophe and all lowercase), "games", etc., but we list them as "Toons" (no apostrophe and title case), "Games", etc. Is there some reason for this? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:32, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

:My guess would be it matches the nomenclature used in our [[Main Page]] Main Menu and their subject's respective page titles such as [[TV Time Toons Menu|this]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:45, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

::I don't know... the only time I'm aware that we change capitalization is to make the Teen Girl Squad issues conform to proper English. In all other cases, like for example the [[Weekly Fanstuff]], we transcribe it exactly as-is. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Yeah, I don't know either. This and all of the main page pages do that. Maybe it was cuz it looks prettier!? Ok I'm out of ideas. Officially. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:35, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

== Random Main Page Redirect ==

(Hmmm, a minute ago I couldn't think of the word "redirect"). Both the "come on in" button, and the "main" button on the toolbar take you to a random main page. At first I thought there was a "main.html" or "mainpage.html" link that would take you to a random page. It didn't. Does anyone know if there's a .html page floating around there somewhere in the hr.com site that would do just that - take you to a random main page? Or is it all activescript? Thanks! (If not, is there perhaps an external mirror page that would have the same effect?) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:11, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:The "come on in" and "main" buttons are hard-coded with a script: <code style="background:#E9E9E9">getURL("main" + Math.floor(Math.random() * TOTAL_MAINPAGES) + 1 + ".html","")</code>. It builds the URL using a random-number function based on the total number of main pages (which incidentally is correctly set to 23 in the navbar and incorrectly set to 20 on the index page). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:15, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
::Cool, thanks! That clears things up. :)--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:39, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

== News button ==

I think it's about time that the "News Button" have [[News Button|its own page]]! Don't you think? I should include a history of everything it has said along with its description. It is too late for me to start that now (and I'm not really sure how to go about it), but i'll leave links to it around in [[Main Page|this]] page and the [[Secret Pages]] page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:05, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:The [[Navigation Bar]] could have its own page too. It would have to be linked [[Main Pages|here]], in [[virus]] and in [[Secret Pages]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::Go for it. Note that we call the navigation bar the "navbar" for some reason I can't remember (maybe it's a filename), so that should at least be a redirect. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:02, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

:::See also [[Site Components]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:31, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== 2k6 changes ==

BTW, I went to the site and main pGE 23 Is not updated. just warning you guys....--[[User:Ed500|Ed500]] 13:11, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== Bug?!?!?1 ==
Went to hr to see if it was finally updated and got a huge scare - instead of clicking "come on in" I happened to click "main" and didn't have the buttons in the top right corner. No "first time here,", no new email button (no button at all), and no quote, sketch, etc. buttons.
I clicked the numbers for the various front pages and none of them had the buttons. I was worried that the good times were OVER, came here and found no mention of it, went back, clicked "come on in" and everything was fine. Now I can't get the problem to happen again, unless it requires a browser close to 'reset' thing to get it to happen.

:Similar bugs have been reported recently. From what we can tell, the site has been running a bit slow lately. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:19, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

== Main Page Nav Template ==

:'''''This dicussion will be continued on [[HRWiki:Projects#Main_Page_Nav_Template]].'''''

== List places ==
Listing the places seems kind of redundant. For example, on [[Main Page 4]], the description reads "Homestar Runner is in a bowling alley," and then the place (two lines down) is "A bowling alley". What of substance does this add? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:10, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

:If a fan want to see if the same bowling alley was ever used again, he can see that there is no link to it and concludes that it was never reused. Same thing with the others. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

:I'd tend to agree with Dot com. If the location is an established place in the H*R universe, I can see it's being mentioned. But, for example, how do you describe [[Main Page 16]]'s place? There's The Stick, but it's not The Field.
:Wouldn't the absence of mention of place lead one to the same comclusion? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:16, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

::That is why I left it blank for now. No mention at all can lead to the idea that we are just sloppy. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:19, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

:::I like it for consistency. Having the place on some, and no place on others just doesn't look good to me. I would much rather have Place on every page. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:23, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

::::What's the point of consistency when we're trying to force a square peg into a round hole? "Place: A notebook"? Where is that? The description alone should suffice. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:25, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::In addition, [[Main Page 23]] would have us believe that these main pages are all just sets, or are at the very least staged. It's possible that the places listed don't actually exist (as though the field and Strong Bad's house do, but you get my point). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:28, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::Two other points. If we use Place, it should not be Places unless there are more than one place. And they probably should match what's on this page's list and gallery. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:29, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

::::::Dot com: This is not trying to put a square peg in any round hole. The main page does happen inside a page of a notebook. I know it's not the most Orthodox of places to have a main page in, but it ''is'' true. And until proven otherwise, lets please refer to anything as it looks. For all you know the whole website can be inside Homeschool Winner's head.
::::::Qermaq: No probalo. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:32, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Don't forget the setting of a certain [[Teen Girl Squad|feature]]... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:37, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::You're missing my point. Referring to it as it looks is fine... in the ''description''... which is ''right above'' the so-called place. I'll ask again: why are we noting the same information ''twice'' so close to itself? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:38, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Then change the summaries? And in reply to everything taking place in Homeschool Winner's head: according to the main menu of [[Everything Else, Volume 1]], it all takes place in Homestar Runner's eye, which is still quite the paradox. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, the description was written by us, the place was made by TBC. We can always change what we wrote earlier. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:42, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

== Main Page Button Bug? ==

On Homestarrunner.com, sometimes when I press the "Main" button, it sends me to this site: http://www.homestarrunner.com/mainNaN.html

Talk:Death

2006-08-01T16:18:25Z

Zonis: Halloween Pictures

This page needs a better caption. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:24, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

I think so, too. I mean, "Homsar died."? Pff. [[User:Nintendogs123|Nintendogs123]] 02:20, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

:I'm actually the one that made it, but I couldn't think of a better one. Maybe this page just needs a different image? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:21, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. Hope I didn't offend you. Maybe we do need a new image. [[User:Nintendogs123|Nintendogs123]] 02:26, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

I put Frank Bennedetto's image on there. And no, you didn't offend me. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:27, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

What about "replacement"? Strong Bad's grave was shown there. Okay, yeah. {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

== dead goose ==

i think we should oput the dead goose from the email narrator on this page, and i think there were dead animals somewhere else.-The 4rticle B4ndit

== Halloween Pictures ==

On one of the Halloween picture slideshows, Strongbad comments on a pumkin that looks like Strong Sad, saying that everyone likes to have Strong Sad's severed head in their window, or something like that.

Talk:keep cool

2006-07-31T19:38:46Z

Zonis: Baseball reference

==DS?==

What do you suppose Homestar's marking as "ds" means? I can think of one that's not family friendly, but other options? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:My guess is on Dumb Star, or something like that. He previously called Homestar that in an email, I think, but I am not sure. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== Baseball reference ==

Strongsad's Easteregg mentioning Baseball could be a reference to the MLB Trade Deadline (which ends in 20 minutes)

Where's The Cheat?

2006-07-31T17:20:46Z

Zonis: /* Real-World References */

{{toonnav|Big Toon|whereis|The Luau|Parsnips A-Plenty}}
[[Image:WheresTheCheat.png|thumb|"The King's gone mad with power! He's gonna eat The Chort!"]]

Strong Bad and his posse can't find The Cheat. Homestar Runner makes Marzipan a sandwich, which she immediately falls in love with and names [[Homestar Jr.]]

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Bubs|}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The Goblin}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}.

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Stick]], [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Coach Z's Locker Room]], [[Spooky Forest]], [[Strong Badia]], [[King of Town's Castle]], [[The King of Town's Grill]]

'''Date: '''February 25, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 6:18

'''Page Title:''' Where is the Cheat?

__FORCETOC__
== Transcript ==
''{We begin by looking at a sesame seed bun with mayo being spread over it. Each time the knife passes over it, the credits displayed on the mayo change. "This is a Homestar Runner Cartoon" "Mike, Craig and Matt wrote it" "Matt and Mike made it" "Matt and Missy did the voices" "its called: Where's the Cheat?" We zoom out to see Homestar Runner in Marzipan's kitchen making a veggie burger. He puts green olives on top and sticks them on with toothpicks.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{making sound effects for the olives}'' Dik, doing! Dik, sboing!

''{The sandwich is finished, Homestar lifts it up to marvel at his creation}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hmm! ''{walks over to Marzipan, who's taking a nap on her couch}'' Hey stupid, I brought you this stuff! Oh, I mean, I brought you this veggie burger.

''{Marzipan gets up from the couch and Homestar hands her the burger.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh, thanks, Homestar! ''{looks at the burger}'' Oh! He's just adorable! He's got a little face.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, I thought that was great, too. The olives, um, kinda look like... he has eyes.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Little green eyes with red pupils and a big leafy smile? Homestar, I don't think I'm gonna eat this. He's just too cute!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Umm... yeah. It's cute and all, but, um, it's not ''that'' cute.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh, yes he is ''{voice squeaks briefly}'' ''that'' cute! Aren't you that cute? Aren't you that cute?

''{The phone begins to ring, and continues during the following dialogue.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Umm... Marzipan? Um, I think your phone... is ringing. Yeah, definitely your phone's ringing.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Yes you are. Yes... you... are! Oh yes you are. Now do a little smile for me. Do a smile, that's it. That's it. Oh, I like your lettuce.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Um... are you gonna get that?

''{Cut to Marzipan's Answering Machine.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{answering machine}'' Hi, this is Marzipan. Please leave me a message.

''{beep}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{leaving a message}'' Oh, hey Marzipan. Have you seen The Cheat? 'Cause we can't find him anywhere. Anyways, this is Strong Bad and— uh, ooh, um... ''{clears throat and starts mimicking Homestar's style of speech, poorly}'' I mean this—this is Homestar... Runner. Oh Marzipan... um... I killed Pom Pom!

''{Cut to the stick; Strong Bad, Pom Pom, and Strong Mad are there. Strong Bad is talking on Pom Pom's cell}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, we're—we were playing badminton in his yard... and I got mad and I killed him! ''{cut back to the answering machine}'' Oh no, I need your help... burying his body...

''{Strong Bad is snickering, cut back to the field}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, bring some towels... and some garbage bags... Uh... this is Homestar...

''{Strong Bad closes the cell phone and tosses it to Pom Pom.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Pom Pom, cell.

''{Pom Pom's body absorbs the cell phone}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{bursts out laughing}'' Oh man, that was so great! You guys shoulda heard that man! I pretended to be Homestar, and I said I killed you, Pom Pom! Like, Marzipan's gonna freak out—

'''STRONG MAD:''' THE CHEEEEEAAAAT! Huh?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, The Cheat. Right, right. Pom Pom, cell again.

''{Pom Pom lowers his eyelids in annoyance, bubbles, and gives him the cell again. Strong Bad makes a call and Strong Sad answers.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Hello?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey wiener. Is The Cheat over there? Don't you guys play Candyland sometimes or something?

''{Cut to Strong Sad's room.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh no. The Cheat and I play Jenga on Tuesdays. Tonight is my night to play—

''{Cut back to The Stick. Strong Sad is heard mumbling from Pom Pom's cellphone.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, so The Cheat is not there. Thanks. Bye. ''{hangs up and tosses the cell back to Pom Pom}'' I mean, where could he be, you know? It's like, what part of "Meet us at the stick" didn't he understand? Well, I guess we should go look for him. Come on, guys.

''{They all walk off and arrive at Bubs' Concession Stand. Bubs is going over "inventory," handwritten on a piece of paper.}''

'''BUBS:''' 17... 24... 17... hey you guys! This isn't another shake-down, is it?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Naw, man. We're just looking for The Cheat. You seen him?

'''BUBS:''' Well, let's see here. ''{goes through his inventory}'' Candy bars, popcorns, ketchup, catsup... ''{arrives at "cheats... 0"}'' Uh, nope! I'm fresh outta Cheats.

''{Cut to Marzipan's living room, using the veggie-burger as a scene change a la Batman logo in the old Batman show. She's talking to the burger, while Homestar is standing there in a daze, slowly tipping over.}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' ''{while Marzipan talks}'' Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....

'''MARZIPAN:''' Somebody needs a name! Who needs a name? You need a name, that's who! I think I'll call you Homestar Junior. Homestar Junior! ''{Homestar falls over}'' Do a smile for me, Homestar Junior! Who's the cutest, Homestar Junior?

''{Cut to Coach Z's locker room, using the same veggie-burger scene change. Bubs, Strong Bad, Strong Mad, and Pom Pom are facing the Coach.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Sorry, boys, I haven't seen The Chort. Though I have caught him sleepin' in that far locker there from time to time.

''{Strong Bad goes up to the locker and opens it up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Lessee what we got in there. Nope, he's not here. Though I see he ''has'' been cheating on his New Year's Resolution. ''{pulls out a pack of cigarettes}'' Though I can't really blame him. You know, because he's The Cheat.

''{Strong Mad holds up a signed picture of The Cheat that he gave to Strong Mad. It's signed "To Strong Mad, You are rad! —The Cheat" Strong Mad starts crying.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Don't worry, big guy. We'll cut to a montage. I mean, find The Cheat.

''{Cut to a montage. Pom Pom puts up posters of The Cheat, titled "Have You Seen The Cheat???? Ht: 1 ft. 2 in. Wt: 18 lbs." He then bounces off. Strong Mad walks through the Halloween area. He overturns the [[Gremlin]], revealing the Goblin underneath.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' The Cheat?

''{The Goblin starts dancing. We do a logo transition, this time using one of the posters Pom Pom was putting up. We are in Strong Sad's room. He's playing Connect Four.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Okay, your turn.

''{Cut to the other side of the table, where Homsar is sitting.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' Oh no! You shanked my Jengaship!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{slight pause}'' I shanked your Jengaship? We're playing Connect Four!

''{Bubs walks in.}''

'''BUBS:''' Hey you guys. Where The Cheat is at?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, I don't know. It's just us two.

'''HOMSAR:''' AaAaAaAaAaAaA! Hey, Tubbs! I just lost my Jengajam.

'''BUBS:''' ''{stares for a second, then responds}'' Don't you talk to me.

''{Bubs walks off. Cut to Strong Badia. Strong Bad walks in.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The Cheat? The Cheat! ''{His voice echoes as the wind howls. He groans.}'' How's it going, Tire?

''{Cut to The Poopsmith and Coach Z near The Poopsmith's pile.}''

'''COACH Z:''' So you haven't seen him then? ''{The Poopsmith shakes his head}'' Okay. Though I see you still got your pile of whatsit there.

''{The Poopsmith nods.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Doo hoo hoo!

''{Coach Z and The Poopsmith turn to look and the camera follows them, cutting to the King of Town approaching his grill with a steak.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Doo dee doo doo doo! Doo hoo hoo hoo!

''{He lifts the cover of the grill to find The Cheat sleeping there}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Oh! That little yellow thing! Wake up!

''{Cut back to Coach Z.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Hey look! The King's gone mad with power! He's gonna eat The Chort!! JEEEOOOOORRRHH!

''{Coach Z leaps onto the King of Town's back, clinging to his head. The impact sends the King's crown flying, and it lands on Coach Z's head, who continues to cling as the King of Town runs back and forth. Strong Mad steps into view}''

'''COACH Z:''' I got him, Strong Mad!

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Woo hoo! Woo hoo hoo! I'm absolutely being assaulted! Woo hoo hoo hoo!

''{Strong Mad cocks his fist back and brings it forward, punching the King of Town (with Coach Z still on him), and they both go flying into the wall of the King's castle. Strong Bad approaches.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hang on, everybody! The King of Town was not going to eat The Cheat.

'''COACH Z:''' Ooh jeeze! Sorry about that there, Kingy.

''{Coach Z and the King of Town walk up to the grill, and Pom Pom arrives from the opposite direction}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, no, no, no. That's where The Cheat ''lives''. That's his house!

'''COACH Z:''' Wait a minute! The Chort lives in the King of Town's grill, but you didn't think to check there before now?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh... Well... yeah. I mean, it's a really complicated story. It all started...

''{Marzipan arrives with the veggie-burger.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hey guys! Homestar Junior's talking now!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Who?

'''MARZIPAN:''' He said, "Put that freakin' sandwich down!"

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{from behind Marzipan}'' No, it was me!

''{Marzipan holds up Homestar Jr. so that it blocks Homestar's head from our view, making it look like the sandwich has a body}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' I know it was, sweetie!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No, it was me! Homestar Runner! ''{waggles his body}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' You're Homestar Junior, remember?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Will you put that FREAKIN' SANDWICH DOWN?!

'''MARZIPAN:''' There, he said it again! I'm so proud of you! Who's the best, Homestar Junior?

''{She continues to baby-talk Homestar Junior under Homestar's dialogue as the scene cuts to a silhouetted wide shot. The screen slowly fades to black.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Somebody, can I get some help here? Strong Bad? ''{Strong Bad shrugs.}'' Would someone talk some sense into this woman?

''{Fade to black.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' King, you wanna eat that sandwich? {music cuts out} Somebody eat that sandwich...

''{After a pause, fade into a commercial for "The Homestar Jr."}''

'''MAN:''' Introducing the Homestar Junior. For a limited time only, certain children get prizes. Pay 99 cents.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This is the first big 'toon on the site featuring [[The Brothers Chaps|The Brothers' Chaps]] current style of animation.
*This is currently the longest 'toon, short, or email on the entire site. This is closely followed by [[Halloween Fairstival]], which is 13 seconds shorter.
*The cookie jar in Marzipan's kitchen is modeled after [[Rejected Characters#Trivia Time|Trivia Time]], Pom Pom's dog that never saw the light of day in any cartoons.
*This toon marks the beginning of Strong Sad's more or less fully developed "delicate" voice. There were still some remnants of his "tired" voice in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]].
*This is the first time Homsar is acknowledged by a character other than Strong Bad.
*This cartoon marks the debut of [[The Stick]].
*The ring of Marzipan's phone is default ringin.wav file in Microsoft Windows.
*This is the first regular toon to feature every main character.
*The announcer who says, "Introducing the Homestar Junior..." was [[Mike Chapman|Mike]].
*The following is hidden in the code if one views the source:<blockquote style="font-family: monospace">"A Jorb HOME VISITORS Well Done" written, directed, drawn and animated by the Brothers Chaps all voices by Matt Chapman 0 1 2 3 4 Job vs. JAERB "A" "E" "O" JOERGHB! the businessman's job is giving the business JOB the construction worker's job is to smash things the poopsmith's job is obvious "job" - 285,194 times ghetto blastro "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times "job" - 285,194 times the end</blockquote>
**This was automatically generated by Flash, which automatically puts all the text from a movie into the HTML file for the search engines. This text is from [[A Jorb Well Done]], which suggests they simply edited the HTML file for that cartoon for this one. Strangely, though, the A Jorb Well Done HTML file doesn't have this text.

===Remarks===
*When the The King of Town is walking toward his grill, a flyer for The Cheat is seen stapled to his stone castle wall, which is impossible, since staples could never go through stone. Although, the castle may not be made of stone.
*The old pop-up menu appears on this cartoon (at the bottom). All the buttons still work. Only this toon, [[A Jorb Well Done]], [[Chinese Food Toons Menu]], and the [[Yearbook Character Page]] seem to still have it.
*The Cheat weighs more than 4 times as much as Pom Pom.
*Bubs's "fresh outta Cheats" is a rare use of The Cheat's name without an [[Integral Article|integral article]].
*The Cheat apparently prefers "Trophy Lights" brand [[Smoking#Cigarettes|cigarettes]], in keeping with his [[Trophies|trophy]] obsession seen in [[crazy cartoon]].
*Marzipan apparently doesn't have any legs. This was previously revealed in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].

===Goofs===
*In the beginning, Homestar's toothpicks appear from nowhere.
*Right before The King of Town comes up when Coach Z is talking to The Poopsmith, Coach Z quickly changes his hand gesture. Apparently, The Brothers Chaps accidentally left the graphic for his other gesture there for a couple frames.
*Bubs's legs are missing when he is talking with Homsar and Strong Sad.
*Throughout random parts of the cartoon, one of Strong Bad's eyes is drastically larger than the other.
*When Strong Sad and Homsar are playing Connect Four, the piece that Strong Sad puts in is not seen later.
*When Homestar mentions that the olives on Homestar Junior do in fact look like eyes, his eyes are reversed from the previous shot.
*The title has the phrase, "Its called," which should actually be "It's called."
*The first time Strong Bad returns the cell phone to Pom Pom, the orange creases in Pom Pom's surface where the cell phone is absorbed don't completely disappear; they fade to almost nothing, but are still visible for the remainder of the shot.
*As Homestar is walking out of Marzipan's kitchen, his shirt changes to the old magenta color. It stays this color up to the close-up of Homestar Junior, and remains the newer bright red for the remainder of the toon.
*The last frame shows that Homestar Junior is available at "parcipitating" locations (though this may be intentional).
*After Strong Mad punches the King of Town and Coach Z towards the wall, the King's crown falls off. However, it is not there when they return to that shot.

===Inside References===
*"Where The Cheat is at?" is a reference to "[[Where My Hat Is At?]]", an old Homestar thing that was "Homestar's World Wide Web Debut".
*According to the credits, this cartoon was co-written by [[Craig Zobel]].
*Strong Bad leaving prank calls on [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]] is a running gag.

===Real-World References===
*"You shanked my Jengaship" is a reference to the games [[Wikipedia:Jenga|Jenga]] and [[Wikipedia:Battleship (game)|Battleship]].
*The Homestar Jr. is a reference to the fast food hamburger chain [[Wikipedia:Carl's Jr.|Carl's Jr.]]

===Fast Forward===
*The music used in the montage was later used in the email [[little animal]].
*Strong Bad said the title "Where's The Cheat" later in the email [[for kids]].
*[[Coach Z]]'s pose grabbing [[The King of Town]] was used later in the email [[virus]].

== External Links ==

*[[HR:whereis.html|watch "Where's The Cheat?"]]
*[[HR:whereis.swf|view the Flash file for "Where's The Cheat?"]]
[[Category:Toons]]

Talk:Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2

2006-07-29T16:01:58Z

Zonis: Harrison and Garfield

Finally, I gots me a full transcript. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 07:12, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

:Heim (Or anybody else up at this hour): Message 3 - The remix. Transcribe the lyrics, or just mention that the song plays? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 07:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:: Jay totally took care of it. Now put all your money into your mailbox for... uh, for safekeeping, 'cuz I promise it'll all be there in the morning. No way would I... I mean, would somebody come along and take it! Okay, bye! --[[User:Jay|Lorenz Magazine Man]] 07:58, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

==Not Talkin' About Van Halen?==
I was wondering if anyone else thought the title Not Talkin' 'Bout Butter was a referrence to Van Halens song "Not Talkin' 'Bout Love"?
:Didn't sound anything like it, though. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:35, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

==Knee vs 'Neath==
I could be wrong, but on message 2, I think I heard "with a length of twine coming from the 'neath."--[[User:Antisexy|Antisexy]]
: I concur. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:58, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
: "The 'neath" also fits with the same theme as "the 'bove" from Strong Bad's children's book. -- [[User:67.161.78.153|67.161.78.153]] 09:14, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::As do I, already changed. Knee didn't sound right while I was transcribing it, but I couldn't hear it saying anything better. I hate the old-timey jargin. Thanks Antisexy. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 07:59, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

==Raymond E. Feist==
Is it just me, or does it seem very unlikely the Old-Timey Homestar would be making a reference to a modern fantasy novel? Me, I understood "Hi Sign", as in a wave of the hand.--[[User:Tosus|Tosus]] 09:43, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:I agree. In fact, another "possible reference" to it was just added to the fun facts. I've heard that term used in many places. It's entering the realm of TTATOT. -[[User:YK|YK]] 10:00, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::Indeed, Webster's defines high sign as "a gesture used as a signal (as of approval or warning) -- usually used in the phrase 'give the high sign',"[http://www.webster.com/dictionary/high%20sign] wording almost identical to The Homestar Runner's. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 10:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I just editted the page accordingly, I'd appreciate a proofread and maybe a high-sign regarding the wording and placement. My contributions are kind of hit-and-miss, so I'll just cross my fingers against a solid [[STUFF]]ing. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 10:31, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

== Split 7-inch ==

Anybody, know what a split 7-inch is? I think that would be worth an explanation on the article page. Also I don't know what the KOT mean by album needing to ''drop''. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:52, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

:This [[Wikipedia:7"|7"]] disambiguation on Wikipedia was the closest thing I could find to "seven-inch" being related to audio. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::The Wikipedia article [[Wikipedia:Split_record|Split Record]] helps answer this question. Thus, a "split 7-inch" is a 7-inch diameter vinyl record containing a song by a different artist on each side.
:::You guys are right, but it's not necessarily one song per artist. It might be better to say "a record produced by two artists, each with songs on one side" or something to that effect. Just sayin'. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 14:32, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

== Picture ==

Why a screenshot of an ''Easter egg''? What about Homestar talking into a banana? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 14:48, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

:I did bring that up on IRC last night. I'm all for the Bananna. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 15:00, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

::Agree, and done. {{User:Bill/sig}} 15:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

:::I dunno. That picture really doesn't look right: is there a better picture that's non-egg? {{User:Alcnolien/sig}} 18:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::No. The entire rest of the 'toon (besides the egg) is just the answering machine itself, visually speaking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:13, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::It's the bananaphone! www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/badgerphone.php
::::::Cute animation, but no. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:13, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::::Wow, that picture makes Homestar look like he has little triangular arms or something.

== KOT Remix!! ==

Wow. I wish I had DJ Teh Cheat's amazing remix abilities. --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 19:09, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I concur... that was one fantastic remix. -- Some Random Guy

== Phone cord ==

Is this really a goof? It could be that the phone jack is just a foot or so above the outlet. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:38, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

== homestar and marzipan living together? ==

something seems weird, why is homestar asking marzipan to get eggs and milk, and it always seems like homestar lives in her house with her since we never get to see whre homestar lives!

:Compare: [[Homestar's House]] vs [[Marzipan's House]]. They're not living together. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:03, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure TBC would never do something like that! Plus, just from watching the toons you can tell that they live in different houses. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

== picture caption ==

You misspelt what homestairs spelt. He backspacebar'd the S.

Nevermind. Heehee..... ^^;;;

==Pay, Plause, and Rewind Live TV!==
:''For additional opinions on this subject, see [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Marzipan%27s_Answering_Machine_Version_13.2#Banana_Manana.3F|this archive]].''
Homestar is walking around talking into the banana as we are hearing the message for message 6. There are three equally implausible explanations for this:
*He is mouthing the words to his already-recorded message into a banana.
*Message 6 is actually a section of blank tape of equal length to Homestar's banana-message.
*<s>The banana really is a phone, and the viewer is hearing him record the message live</s>.
Now that I look at Kiefer's comments below, I see that the last one isn't possible. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:04, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
:[You] mention "three equally implausible explanations" for Homestar's banana-message. It isn't really constructive conversation, but I just wanted to state abent-mindedly and for the record that I prefer several even less plausible explanations. First, I rather like the notion that the sincerity of Homestar's delusion works a faith miracle of sorts; because he believes so thoroughly in the "phone-ness" of the banana, the message is successfully recorded. But really, the heart of the matter is that it's not Homestar and his banana that cause the message, but the other way 'round. The message exists because, well, it's a Marzipan's Answering Machine. And then Homestar walks past with the banana simply because it's necessary to fully exploit the comedic potential of his cell-phone enthusiasm. So the real mystery is not how the banana created the message, but how the message created the banana! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:19, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::I think that (1) it's an obvious joke and any explanation dumbs down the whole thing, (B) it was STUFFed twice and was argued down each time, and (III) I cannot make my mind up as to how to do anything here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:23, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh, Abdi. You make me laugh out loud sometimes. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:25, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::If you really want to STUFF it, I won't stop you. I just reverted it before because were in mid-revision, and didn't want it shot down in its original, disorganized, obvious-to-be-declined state. If you guys STUFF it, I'm not gonna revert it again. (But I will vote for it) ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:26, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'm confused, who said anything about inclusion on the page? First of all, if there's something on the page that was voted down in STUFF, then it needs to get off. Secondly, let's be clear that the above is simply me letting my mind wander out loud somewhat sillily. Okay, well, it does have a hidden agenda, reminding us once again that, as entertaining as the "make sense out of H*R causalities" game can be, the ultimate cause and explanation for so many things is simply comedic necessity or TBC's artistic whim. In so many cases "because it's funny" or "because TBC dang well wanted to" is the ''only'' working explanation for why something happens. (But speculating about relationships within the artistic continuum can still be worthwhile, just as "Why did Hamlet take so long killing Claudius?" doesn't have to be dismissed with "Because Shakespeare an' the gang needed a new two-hour play.") —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:36, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::It was originally added by an IP address, and wasn't very NPOV. Me and Dot com were revising it, but as we were it was getting STUFF'd. I reverted the STUFFing until it was revised. Now that it has been, if it is deemed still STUFFable, that's a totally different story, and obviously wouldn't be reverted. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:42, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::<s>As it stands now, it never actually made it into STUFF (that is, the item was reverted before it got off the ground). It was headed that way because the original wording was unusuable and we had people deleting it and others revising it simultaneously. We were lobbying to spare it the process, at least until we could get it into a presentable form. It is my understanding that the current wording is much more acceptable, although I suppose that remains to be seen.</s> (By the way, Abdi, I got that you were just letting your mind wander, something I enjoy very much when you share.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:05, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Something just occurred to me regarding a [this] discussion about what Homestar is doing during Message 6 (the first one that plays). He walks by talking into a banana while the message is playing, so people have suggested that perhaps he's actually recording that message live.

There's a problem with that explanation: In all of the Answering Machines prior to this one (and even this one, if you consider The Cheat remixed the KOT's new jam after the KOT did it in the first place), all messages are played in chronological order from first to last, despite the numbers counting down. This is made clear when Homestar tries to learn how to make a prank call, or in any of the other cases where a character references an earlier message in a later one.

The Answering Machine's display (and therefore the way we number the messages) works like this: It shows the total number of messages on the machine, and we can assume that the message is deleted from memory once it's played. When you loop back to the beginning, the whole toon plays over again, so the messages reset. (Exception: When Homestar replaces the tape in Version 9.2.)

So, now that I've established that, here's the problem with the idea that Homestar is recording his message live when we listen to it: That would mean he'd need to be inserting his message as the first one on the machine, ahead of all the rest already there. That doesn't work. Therefore, Eh! Steve's mouth asplodes the universe. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:07, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

:I—... I can't b—... Chi-g-d-b ... He—g ... You're exactly right. I'm buyin' you a pizza! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:12, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
:: Why can't the other ones be live too? Which, I guess, does produce other odd inconsistencies, but whatever. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:14, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
:::See the thing that I laugh most at in life is when people say completely random things as their conclusions, such as in Dot com's userpage, when he says "Which can bring us to only one conclusion: Strong Sad's adopted" or something like that. I just love that, Kieferskunk. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:17, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

==New KOT...B?==
Okay, am I the only one who thought of the '''New K'''ids '''O'''n '''T'''he Block? Stupid Coincidence? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:28, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

:Haha, it's certainly in their time period of reference. But I think they would have been a bit clearer if it was supposed to be. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:29, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Good thinking, but I don't think so. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:55, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

== Mrs. Pan ==

Marzipan seems sad to me in her message- her voice is slightly broken up and she talks about eating dirt, something Strong Bad would say to her. I'm not sure if this belongs on the page (probably not) but I just thought I'd point it out. Feel better, Marzy! [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 06:24, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

:Could Missy C be pregnant? They say pregnant women sometimes eat dirt... >.>

:There's a long running joke among pretty much everyone I know that "Organic" means that it has dirt in it, which is what I thought of when I first heard the message. [[User:Benabik|Benabik]] 06:37, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

:Also note the irony—probably unintentional—that her [[Yearbook Character Page]] claims that Strong Bad described her as a "dirty hippie without the dirt". --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 18:47, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
::Interesting! I decided to STUFF that - check it out. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

It sounds more like she's got a cold or something. It's all crackly and sore throat-sounding. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 00:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

:Incidentally, it looks like the anonny up there guessed right... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I always thought she was a worm in a dress.-The 4rticle B4ndit

Anyone else who's read it reminded of Eurydike from "House of the Eagle"? brillinat book, well worth it.
== Pauses Betweem Words ==

In the last message, I think that when Strong Bad pauses between some of his words, he is imitating an automated message. Maybe?

*I think he's just trying to come up with the words to say. He does that a lot. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

== Food=Phone? ==

I think this deserves a running gag notice. First the Twinkie phone in [[Where the Crap are We?]], now this, and probably other times I can't recall. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
:I've already made a page for it. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:04, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::Sweet. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]
Why hasn't anyone said anything about the very obvious reference here to Banana Phone?
C'mon, you know -- Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring, banana phone?
Do I really need to sing it?
:Because it is being debated in STUFF. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:44, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
::''Was''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:46, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

== The New KOT's Jam ==
Does anyone think that "Not Talkin 'bout Butter" deserves a page? {{User:LePorello/sig}} 22:11, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:I think it's part of the KoT's running gag about eating everything, but I'd wait for something else related to the tune to pop up before it gets its own page. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:21, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think so, the only songs that get their own pages are Strong Bad Sings songs, right? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:26, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
:::[[DJ Teh Cheat]] needs his own page seperate from Club Technochocolate I think, since he seems to do more than just play at that club. His page should cover the collab /w the KOT, and the KOT's page should link to DJ Teh Cheat for info about it. --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 22:36, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
::::I disagree - I think this information should simply be included in The Cheat's main character page, as an elaboration on the things he does. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:18, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::That remix was awesome. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}

==Disappearing Homestar==
Something stupid I noticed. Basically, if you listen to the first message long enough for Homestar to walk by, then hit the next/previous button, he'll disappear (of course). I didn't know if you guys thought this would be a goof, remark, or stupid stuff that gets ignored. I figured I'd post this here, as I don't even have an account on this site anyways.
:Sign up! It's easy! :) And as for that: This is a Flash artifact, and something you can control as the watcher - just like in any of the Main Pages where an effect stops and restarts when you mouse over and off the buttons. I asked a similar question about the possibility of [[Twin Characters]] on [[Main Page 13]] because it was possible to get two copies of [[Atari Strong Bad]] to appear at the same time, and it was decided then that this didn't qualify since you could control the action there. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:40, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

==Magma=Lava==
Am I right in saying that Strong Bad should have said the LAVA was seeping under the door, since magma is no longer called such once it reaches the surface. Is this good enough to be mentioned or not(My science teacher just drove us crazy about this kind of thing!)? [[User:ItalianBallerina|ItalianBallerina]] 19:46, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:I was wondering about that too. I'd probably make it a Remark that Strong Bad uses the wrong term to depict molten volcanic rock. It's probably worth mentioning - let's see if it holds up. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:12, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
::Well, it ''is'' theoretically possible that the eruption was taking place right under her door, in which case it is still magma until the moment it seeps out. :-) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:59, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

== Lorenz Magazine Man ==

What in the world is a Lorenz? - [[User:Brittany|Brittany]]
:The name "Lorenz" is short for Lorenzo, a common Spanish/Mexican name. I believe it's analogous to Lawrence, as well. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 05:27, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

== Marzipan: Pregnant? ==
It could be Marzipan thats pregnent. She's sounding depressed, and eating dirt. I hope this isn't the case. I'd hate to see TBC jump the Bear-Shark.
:Actually, it's Missy (voice of Marzy) who's pregnant. Check the Remarks section. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I already knew that Missy was pregnant. I'm just saying that Marzy could be pregnant too, meaning that they jumped the Bear-Shark.--[[User:24.216.248.85|24.216.248.85]] 00:39, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

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=== This isn't dirt! It's STUFF! ===
{{stufffact|Marzipan's statement that she's eating dirt is likely a reference to [[Stinkoman]], who eats dirt in the email [[time capsule]], and also in [[Under Construction]] (where he finds the dirt is actually pudding).}}
{{stuffverdict|23:12, 3 March 2006 (UTC)|00:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|17|1|Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== A Dirty Hippie Without the STUFF ===
{{stufffact|[[Wikipedia:Geophagy|Eating dirt]] is a practice common among pregnant women, especially in rural societies. The day after this toon was released, [[The Brothers Chaps]] announced at [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006|Flashforward 2006]] that [[Missy Palmer]] (the voice of Marzipan) was pregnant.}}
{{stuffverdict|22:46, 3 March 2006 (UTC)|00:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC)|revised and then overwhelmingly accepted|17|2|Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Banana Manana? ===
{{stufffact|Homestar is walking around talking into the banana as we are hearing the message for message 6. There are three equally implausible explanations for this:
*He is mouthing the words to his already-recorded message into a banana.
*Message 6 is actually a section of blank tape of equal length to Homestar's banana-message.
*The banana really is a phone, and the viewer is hearing him record the message live.
}}
{{stuffverdict|04:20, 28 February 2006 (UTC)|21:10, 2 March 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined (part of it was shown to be patently false; see also the [[Talk:Marzipan%27s_Answering_Machine_Version_13.2#Pay.2C_Plause.2C_and_Rewind_Live_TV.21|talk page]])|22|10|Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Bana...Banamana...Banamanamana tonight! ===
{{stufffact|Homestar using a banana as a telephone may be a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Raffi|Raffi]] CD and subsequent Internet phenomenon [[Wikipedia:Bananaphone|Bananaphone]].}}
{{stuffverdict|15:13, 27 February 2006 (UTC)|21:14, 2 March 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|24|7|Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Speculation into the Stratosphere ===
{{stufffact|The fact that The Strong Bad supposedly "launched the recording into the stratosphere" could be another reference to time capsule.}}
{{stuffverdict|20:53, 27 February 2006 (UTC)|06:19, 1 March 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined|19|0|Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2}}

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=== A hankering for some prankering ===
{{stufffact|Old-Timey Strong Bad's line "I've got a hankering for a prankering" might be a reference to a Homer Simpson line in "[http://www.snpp.com/episodes/2F18.html Two Dozen & One Greyhounds (2F18)]": "Which is lucky, too, because it's spanking season, and I got a hankering for some spankering!"}}
{{stuffverdict|15:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)|01:09, 28 February 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|22|1|Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 13.2}}

== Harrison and Garfield ==

OK, maybe the Lasagna joke is a reference to Garfield the cat, but there should be no way that Old Timey Strongbad should even know what Garfield is, since the comic strip started in '78. Is this a goof?

Talk:Summer Short Shorts

2006-07-25T16:37:07Z

Zonis: Fries and Catsup

==Pom Pom segment==
Anyone want to bet how long it'll take before someone claims this is a Naruto reference? [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:You mean like [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Summer_Short_Shorts&diff=348440&oldid=348439 here?] --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::D'oh! [[User:Danny Lilithborne|Danny Lilithborne]] 07:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I was a bit fast on that one. But somehow you've just proven that it's obviously Naruto :-P {{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Did any of you notice that part of this segment contradicts the "Strong Bad is in jail catoon"? In the begining of said cartoon, Strong Bad and The Cheat run up to Bub's Concession Stand which is shown right next to the woods. But when Pom Pom does that huge jump in this segment, it appears that Strong Badia is located between the woods and the Concession Stand. Weird o_0. [[User:Scholar of Homestar|Scholar of Homestar]] 15:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Obviously Naruto, or Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, or House of Flying Daggers, or any other film where people fly through the trees. Actually I'm inclined to say it's more of a reference to live action martial arts because of way Pom Pom hovers above the ground before seems to parody the effect of using counterweight harnesses to give the effect of actors jumping incredibly high. I've never seen any of the ninjas on Naruto do that. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== First forest ==

Is it worth mentioning that this is the first instance of a forest in the standard animation style? [[User:216.232.210.238|216.232.210.238]] 08:07, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:Sure. I mean, that could be the creepy halloween forest during summer, but still...--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 14:09, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== pi=pie? ==
Does anyone else think the Pi reference in this and weclome back could tie in with the pie running joke?

:I think you got it [http://clampettstudio.com/images/archives/wb/WB1026-PiE.jpg confused]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Eggselent ==

I don't believe that Homestar says "Eggs, can I get you gentlemen..." I think he says the more logical "And". Thoughts? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:Definatly sounds like "And" to me. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::I leaning towards "And". {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:18, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Ef=ggs!

== Raising the Seek Bar... ==

[[Image:LaBrea.PNG|thumb|Seek bars not spake here.]]
Lapper removed the Transcript edit about Cave Strong Bad's feet poking out from under the tar pit. He said it only comes up when you use a Seek Bar. I present to you: exhibit A. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:48, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I removed it because I checked on that a few hours ago and thought it was only the seek bar. But I did a very sloppy check. You were absolutely right. (btw, I'm not Lapper) {{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:51, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::Sorry. Guess you're not the only one who did a sloppy check. Happens to the best of us. And me, too. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== From the front to the back... ==

So these pants we are staring at: Are these from the front or the back? I can't really tell. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:I say the front.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC) [[Image:Goodgraphics.PNG|thumb]]
::Back, and thus a double entendre on "end." [[User:68.5.95.211|68.5.95.211]] 12:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Nice idea, but the same image is shown in the beginning and in the end.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 12:23, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Can't Really Tell. -{{User:Homsar7/sig}}

== Excuse Me While I Kiss This Guy ==

I think the lyrics for "Brain Sister" are wrong (The trancscriber didn't seem too confident anyway). The line "She's a {mile?} away" sounds like it ends "all day" to me, not "away". Obviously "She's a mile all day" makes no sense at all, So I'm pretty sure that whole line is wrong. Can anybody make it out? [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:26, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
:And I don't seem able to manage any more than "She {three syllables} all day". I'm giving up for now. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 16:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

== Fries and Catsup ==

Arn't they the same as from the e-mail [[funny]], from the "Computer Catsup" scene?

Talk:marzipan

2006-07-23T03:07:10Z

Zonis: Fast Forward Concert

== Double transcription ==

Is it entirely necessary to translate Marzipan's final IM from the Webdings font in both the transcript and in Fun Facts? --[[User:oddtodd|oddtodd]] 10:40, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)

no I think we should get rid of the fun facts one. [[User:Choco|Choco]] 23:14, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== Marzi-hands ==

"Because she doesn't have hands"

I think she does, but they're invisible, as evidenced in Yello Dello. --[[User:70.25.9.49|70.25.9.49]] 00:53, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

Good one, man. No hands. --[[User:The 386|The 386]] 00:48, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Then how does she pick stuff up, hm? {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 20:22, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

::See [[Lack of Visible Arms]] and its talk page and you'll find that there's quite a bit of controversy about this. I don't think she has arms, but some insist that she has invisible arms. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 20:25, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

==depressio111117==
Is depressio111117 real can you really instent message him?{{User:The thing/sig}} 15:10, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

:Although the screen name is registered, it is never online. So, no, you can not instant message it. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 19:20, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

==Other Easter Egg?==
Anoyne else catch the IM from Strong Sad at the end of the e-mail? I did. I added it, and it got deleted. What? {{User:Chaos747}}
:It's noted in the transcript immediately above the Easter eggs section —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 18:23, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

... I'm stupid. Sorry about that. {{User:Chaos747}}
:No problem. [[Weclome]] to the wiki. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 18:28, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

== Fast Forward Concert ==

Should Marzipan's Cool Tapes tour of bead shops and topiary gardens from Welcome Back be added?

Talk:The Show

2006-07-22T07:01:04Z

Zonis: /* Homestar's Independance */

When you say that it's similar to Tic Tac Toe, are you referring to "Tic Tac Dough" or "Hollywood Squares"? "Tic Tac Toe" itself was never a game show, but was the central theme in both these game shows.

'''Hollywood Squares''' definately. --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 16:34, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

==The cool background==
Has anybody been able to get that cool looking background from The Show made into a nice desktop background image? --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 16:34, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar's Independence ==

is it really necessary to say "This could explain Homestar's ability to exist independently without parents or anyone to provide for his needs, since characters in the Homestar Runner universe do appear to require food." I mean, its pretty much figured that they are all out of college, and we know that Homestar has a job as a Tech Support and Office Worker with Strongbad and The Cheat.

Talk:The Show

2006-07-22T07:00:39Z

Zonis: Homestar's Independance

When you say that it's similar to Tic Tac Toe, are you referring to "Tic Tac Dough" or "Hollywood Squares"? "Tic Tac Toe" itself was never a game show, but was the central theme in both these game shows.

'''Hollywood Squares''' definately. --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 16:34, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

==The cool background==
Has anybody been able to get that cool looking background from The Show made into a nice desktop background image? --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 16:34, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar's Independance ==

is it really nessisary to say "This could explain Homestar's ability to exist independently without parents or anyone to provide for his needs, since characters in the Homestar Runner universe do appear to require food." I mean, its pretty much figured that they are all out of college, and we know that Homestar has a job as a Tech Support and Office Worker with Strongbad and The Cheat.

long pants

2006-07-11T05:43:23Z

Zonis: /* Fast Forward */

{{sbenav|127|best thing|rampage}}
[[Image:sbemail127.png|thumb|Creepy pants all the time get some light globes.]]

Strong Bad shortens a long email, which causes Homestar to get some [[Homestar's Daisy Dukes|creepy pants]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Atari Homestar]], {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Marzipan}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Homestar's House]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' March 28, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:04

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' And if I email you! Girl, woman! ''{He holds up pieces of paper that say "Girl." and "Woman." as he says those words.}'' Oh, would you email me? Girl, woman! ''{He holds up the papers again. Then he brings up the email:}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: Homestar's pants</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
Why doesn't homestar ever wear pants? It's kind of 
creepy how he walks around with no pants on all the time. 
Anyway, I think you should get him some pants, maybe some 
parachute pants would work...yeah, that would work. Or maybe 
some clown pants, I don't care, just get him some pants! 
Tootles! 
Clancy</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad skips everything after "Anyway" and before "I don't care" and, instead, says "Blabbity blah, blah blebbity bloo". He also pronounces "Tootles" as "Toot-less" and "Clancy" as "Clanky".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, ''{begins typing}'' Too long, Clanky, too looong! Good thing you didn't indent, man, or this never woulda made it past my 2nd paragraph filter: ''{types 'run "Edga Jr."'}'' Edga Jr.

''{The splash screen for "Edga Jr. The Long Email Killa Filta" comes up, similar to Edgar the Virus Hunter, except it shows a picture of a pimply red-haired boy saying "Indent and Die!"}''
<blockquote class="short compy email" style="text-align:center">Edga Jr. 
The Long Email 
Killa Filta
 
'' "Indent and Die!" '' 
programmed entirely in Mom's sewing room       c1989 </blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aw, look at him. He's one o' them red-haireded rapscalli... wags. ''{He returns to the email.}'' Well, I think we can salvage this one with a little editing. Let me once again call upon the services of my trusty, somewhat dusty, electronic light-pen input high-tech expensive device! Now in HD!

''{He pulls out a correction pen bearing the words "X-PENSIVE WHITE" and shakes it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Just have to shake up the...expensive electrons here. All set! So, let's see! ''{he mumbles and says}'' Expensive high-tech device... ''{as he whites out the words, producing:}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: Homestar's pants</div>
Dear Strongbad, 
Why doesn't homestar ever wear pants? It's kind of 
creepy how he walks around with no pants on all the time. 
Anyway, I think you should get him some pants, maybe some 
parachute pants would work...yeah, that would work. Or maybe 
some clown pants, I don't care, just get him some pants! 
Tootles! 
Clancy</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' There! Now let's see what we got!

''{re-reads the altered email}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Dear Strongbad, Why wear pants? Creepy pants all the time get some. Maybe parachute, maybe clown care. Some ants toot! Clanky. ''{He begins typing.}'' Now ''there's'' an email worth answering! Some ants toot. Tee-hee! ''{He clears the screen, but the correction fluid remains.}'' So, why wear pants? An age old question. Was it not Adam West who once said, "E—

''{The camera pans back to show Homestar wearing very short purple pants}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Strong Bad, check out my creepy pants!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{looking away}'' Ew, Homestar! What're you wearing them Daisy Dukes for?!

''{Homestar's pants shine.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' 'Cuz you said, "Creepy pants all the time get some."

'''STRONG BAD:''' Get some what?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I dunno. Light globes?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{stares flatly}'' ...Light globes.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You know, like in a lamp! Light globes! ''{His pants shine again.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So... You put on hot pants in the hopes of getting some lightbulbs.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{correctively}'' Globes.

''{Homestar's pants shine again briefly as he says it.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, since you're here, let's talk about your pants. Or your lack thereof... Daisy Dukes aside.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What are you talking about, Strong Bad? ''{shakes leg}'' I wear long pants.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Um... no, from what I can tell, you wear ''no'' pants and have blue soles glued to the bottoms of your feet. ''{indicates Homestar's feet}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{looking shocked}'' Well, that's simply not true. I have long pants, I wear long pants. I'm a long pants man, long pants, long pants!

''{Homestar starts getting upset and dances around}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, calm down... I didn't mean to—

''{Homestar jumps high into the air and convulses on Strong Bad's desk.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Long pants, Strong Bad! The longest pants! Everybody everybody! Longest pants!

''{He starts teleporting around the room to a different place after each word he utters. He first appears in front of Strong Bad, then leaning in behind him, then hanging upside down from the ceiling, then pixellated on the Lappy's screen as Atari Homestar, then blurred in the scene's foreground, then upside down under the desk, then back to his original position, looking exhausted and out of breath, all while chanting the following.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Long long long long long long pants!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oight! Ah! That's it! We need to get you some serious clown care, man!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' But I was told long pants! Long pants! They said long pants! Always long pants! ''{leans toward Strong Bad}'' Long, my pants! Gleaming pants! Glorious pants!

''{Homestar runs away, leaving the Daisy Dukes behind. They fall and hook around Strong Bad's foot.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Bleh! Egh! BLEEEGGEHHEGH!

''{He shakes his foot in a panic until the Daisy Dukes fly off and land on the floor some distance away, while The Cheat appears stage left to burn them with the [[BMW Lighter]]. They almost instantly combust with a noxious, neon green flame.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{The Cheat leaves, and Strong Bad turns back to the computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Noice work, Clanky. You made Homestar go nuts and you've seriously creeped me out. And how am I supposed to get ''this'' crap offa here?

''{Everything starting with the "t" in "get" is obscured by the correction fluid. Strong Bad grabs a cloth and attempts to wipe it off the screen, to no avail. He mutters.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Stupid... made-up technology... that I made up... light pen... ''{mumbles a bit before yelling:}'' The Cheat! Call tech support and tell 'em you broke the Lappy again!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* Selecting "wear pants" will bring up some fortune cookies, similar to those in the old [[Fortune Cookies]] game. As you hover the cursor over each one, it brings up a sentence of Strong Bad's "improved" email.
* Clicking on the socket under the table after Strong Bad says "Clown Care" brings up a business card for the service, [[Kertified Klown Kare]]. It reads:
<blockquote>Kertified 
Klown Kare 
 
-Pie Injuries 
-Giant Foot Problems 
-Wacky Malaria 
-Grease Paint Poisoning 
 
"Rodeo and Tragic Clown Hot Dogs NOT ACCEPTED"</blockquote>
* Selecting "creeped" at the end of the email reveals a touching moment between Homestar and Marzipan.
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' {''Lying in bed with light globes beside and on the floor beneath him, crying''} Loooonnng paaaannnts!
*:'''MARZIPAN:''' Awww, there there, Homestar. It's not so bad. Everybody thinks I'm a broom.
*:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{Sits up suddenly, surprised and upset}'' You're not a broom?!

== Fun Facts ==

=== Explanations ===
*[[Wikipedia:Daisy Dukes|Daisy Dukes]] are extremely short cut-offs, so named for the character from ''[[Wikipedia:The Dukes of Hazzard|The Dukes of Hazzard]]'' television show that wore them.
*Parachute Pants are large billowy pants which come in at the waist and ankles with snug elastic bands.
*Homestar insists that he has "light globes", not [[Wikipedia:Incandescent light bulb|light bulbs]]. In Australia and South Africa, it is common for light bulbs to be called light globes.
**It is also common in theatrical productions to refer to stage lamps as globes and household lamps as bulbs, distinguishing the two.
*The neon green flame that occurs when The Cheat burns Homestar’s discarded shorts would indicate that they may contain large traces of [[Wikipedia:Barium|barium]], which, among other things, is used heavily in fluorescent lighting, especially fireworks. This might be the explanation as to why Homestar’s shorts have a glow to them or "light globes."

=== Trivia ===
* This is the first time Strong Bad has lowered his upper eyelids.
* In the Easter egg, the messages in the fortune cookies read "You are not as good as most people" before they are completely unraveled, probably because [[The Brothers Chaps]] only changed the writing on the cookie. The cookies also said "You are not as good as most people" in [[Fortune Cookies]].
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#fiendish freddys|fiendish freddys]]".

=== Remarks ===
*When Strong Bad returns to the email after having opened up Edga Jr., all the text he had typed as a reply is gone, and only the email remains.

=== Goofs ===
*Although Strong Bad puts pressure onto the Lappy's screen when trying to rub off the marker and when applying the white out, no ripples pop up on the screen.
*After he clears the screen and starts writing about the age old question, Homestar comes in. You can clearly see the text the whole time Homestar is there, but when Homestar leaves and Strong Bad turns back to the Lappy, it is gone.
*The Klown Kare Easter egg (by clicking on the socket) can still be clicked in the same location on the screen when the scene moves around.
*When Homestar appears close-up to the computer, if you zoom in, you can see that the disk label is slightly garbled, like it would be in a JPEG file. This is because it actually '''is''' a JPEG being used to show both Homestar and the part of the background placed behind him, as the JPEG format does not allow for transparency.
**Additionally, the image appears to be displayed slightly above its proper location.
*Each time Strong Bad's hands are visible in front of the Lappy's screen, they do not have reflections in the screen.
*There is a separate shadow on the white line in the Lappy's email client.
*When Homestar appears on the Lappy's screen, he isn't covered by the correction fluid, but rather, he shows up on top of it.
*As Strong Bad shakes his foot, the shading on his boot changes to a previous version.
*When Homestar jumps onto the table during his freak-out, his right leg appears to be outside of his Daisy Dukes.

=== Inside References ===
*[[Edgar#Edga Jr.|Edga Jr.]] is a reference to the e-mail [[virus]], in which his ambiguous relation, [[Edgar]], created Strong Bad's virus protection program. Also, Edgarware was made in "mom's basement", whereas Edga Jr. was made seven years later in "mom's sewing room".
*Homestar says "Everybody everybody" in his tirade, a reference to the [[Intro]].
*The business card Easter egg makes reference to the [[Tragic Clown Dog]] from [[part-time job]].
*Marzipan's line about people thinking she's a broom (along with Homestar's response) may be a reference to [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]] where Homestar leaves a message calling Marzipan an "old broomstick".
*The noise made by Homestar's glowing pants is used often in [[Stinkoman]] cartoons.
*Strong Bad's "light pen" is based on his "light pen" from [[haircut]]—there, it was a black [[Permanent Marker|permanent marker]].
*The green smoke created when the pants are incinerated is similar to that given off by the rotten Chinese food in [[ghosts]] and the "stench of biblical proportions" in [[couch patch]].
*Strong Bad's opening song is suspiciously similar to the one in [[the show]].

=== Real-World References ===
*Strong Bad throwing cue cards away during the intro song is a reference to the [http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/weatherunderground/images/film_dylan.jpg music video] for Subterranean Homesick Blues by Bob Dylan.
**It could also be a reference to the video "Need You Tonight/Mediate" by INXS.
*The [[Wikipedia:Light Pen|light pen]] was an input device that would make an EGA or CGA monitor into a touch screen of sorts. You touched a light sensor to the screen, and it would calculate a position by sensing the 'flicker' of the monitor's cathode ray. A real light pen could never work with the [[Lappy 486]], since LCD displays do not flicker.
*[[Wikipedia:Adam West|Adam West]] is an actor best known for his role as [[Batman]] on the campy '60s TV show. The Batman costume has tights with briefs over them, so Batman does not wear pants, either.


=== Fast Forward ===
*Strong Bad mentions [[Wikipedia:Technical support|tech support]]. He would later actually call tech support (which is Homestar Runner) in the e-mail [[isp]].
*In e-mail 151, [[senior prom]], Strongbad uses a device to do a mass pantsing. Since only Strongbad gets Pantsed, and Homestar is unaffected, it proves that Homestar does indeed not wear any pants.

== DVD Version ==
*For some reason, the Kertified Klown Kare business card Easter egg has been disabled.

*The DVD version features ''two'' hidden commentaries. To access them, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Creators' Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]], [[Ryan Sterritt]])

'''MIKE:''' ''{singing}'' Long pants! Long paaants!

'''MATT:''' Wow.

'''MIKE:''' That's my email song.

'''MATT:''' Yeah, we should have made email songs for each one of the commentaries.

'''MIKE:''' So, Ryan, what is this email about? Give us the skinny.

'''RYAN:''' Somebody has pants, I think.—

''{laughter}''

'''RYAN:''' —And someone else wants them.

'''MIKE:''' ''{still laughing}'' Okay. I like it.

'''RYAN:''' I watched it.

'''MIKE:''' Coveting thy neighbor's pants.

'''MATT:''' Mm hmm. Um, so this is also, I would like to have a long email filta killa. Uh, killa filta, rather. Um...

'''MIKE:''' It's true. That's a way that you can guarantee your Strong Bad email not being read, if it's over—

'''MATT:''' If there's an indention...

'''MIKE:''' —over three or four lines, I just delete 'em.

'''MATT:''' You make that second paragraph, and good, good night, Irene.

''{laughter}''

'''RYAN:''' So where'd you guys find this pen?

'''MATT:''' It's right here, actually, Ryan. ''{He shakes the pen.}''

'''RYAN:''' Aah! Ohh!

'''MIKE:''' Look at that!

'''MATT:''' It's uh, it's a white paint pen from Uni. ''{reading the pen}'' It marks on most surfaces. Medium line, opaque oil-based paint marker.

'''MIKE:''' It's the PX-20 variety.

'''MATT:''' So, uh, it's kinda funny, the story; Mike wrote this email, or we picked this email to do something with, and then Mike in parentheses underneath the email said, "Maybe could be edited," as a note to me saying hey, maybe we could cut this email a little shorter. I thought this was actually something that the person had actually written Strong Bad, so I decided to write the email where Strong Bad edits the email. And then, we ended up keeping it, even though that wasn't someone's, what the guy said. It was what Mike put.

'''MIKE:''' Why do his pants shine?

'''MATT:''' ''{laughing}'' They're just, there's so much glory and majesty about his pants.

'''MIKE:''' But are his pants glowing or is what's underneath the pants glowing?

'''MATT:''' ''{continuing to laugh}'' It's, uh, he's, it's just glowing.

'''MIKE:''' Behind his... it's disturbing, to say the least.

'''MATT:''' ''{still laughing}'' So Homestar's wearing Daisy Dukes; there's the power that comes with that.

'''MIKE:''' There's just certain words, that he says, that make them shine.

'''MATT:''' I like how Strong Bad has folded his legs there. I remember thinking that would be good.

''{laughter}''

'''MATT:''' "Oh, wow. Let's talk about your pants." Um, that's Feindish Freddy's Big-Top of Terror? What was it called?

'''MIKE:''' Fun? Something.

'''MATT:''' Big-Top of Fun. Circus-themed computer game.

'''RYAN:''' I always liked when Homestar hopped up on the desk like that.

'''MATT:''' Yeah? That's a new, 'cause I had to make some new legs for him there.

'''RYAN:''' I love too the pockets hanging out of the shorts, implying that he cut them that short.

''{laughter}''

'''MATT:''' Britney Spears style.

''{They watch The Cheat burn the pants.}''

'''MATT:''' Green flames... Oh yeah, I remember the week after this we tried to make the paint pen still be on the screen but just barely visible—

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah.

'''MATT:''' —but it made it hard to read everything else. So we decided to ditch it, and...

'''MIKE:''' What Matt just said is correct.

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Ryan?

=== Fun Facts ===
*"[[Wikipedia:Goodnight Irene|Goodnight Irene]]" is the name of a famous song by [[Wikipedia:Leadbelly|Leadbelly]].

=== Characters' Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Homestar Runner]], [[Marzipan]], [[Shark-Tooth Bubs]])

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hello, everybody. My name is Homestar Runner. I'm joined here in the booth by Marzipan—

'''MARZIPAN:''' Hi, guys.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' —and Shark-Tooth Bubs.

'''SHARK-TOOTH BUBS:''' ''{half singing}'' And I can say no more.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Ooh, Shark-Tooth!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What does that mean, Bubs?

'''SHARK-TOOTH BUBS:''' That's my regular greeting. It's a greeting card I ran once.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That's a great greeting card!

'''SHARK-TOOTH BUBS:''' Thanks.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' So this one deals mostly with me. It's all about my pants.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, I always have liked your pants.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks, Marzipan. See? Marzipan knows I wear long pants.

'''SHARK-TOOTH BUBS:''' ''{overlapping}'' You don't wear pants. No pants.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Shark-Tooth Bubs, what do you know about it? You've got a horn on your head.

'''SHARK-TOOTH BUBS:''' ''{half singing}'' I am a purple-pant man.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I think it's starting to smell in here again.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I believe it. Shark-Tooth Bubs, you stink.

''{They watch the email for a moment.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Um, that just looks like a paint pen, Marzipan, not an expensive high-tech device.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, it ''is'' a paint pen.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I know, but Strong Bad claims it's some kind of newfangle.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh.

'''SHARK-TOOTH BUBS:''' I got fangle jangle.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, do you?

'''SHARK-TOOTH BUBS:''' Yeah.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Can we see it later on?

'''MARZIPAN:''' I—

'''SHARK-TOOTH BUBS:''' I got it on my face all the time.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I have a song about the fangle jangle.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Will you sing it for us?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yes. ''{singing}'' The fang—the fangle jangle, he's a nice guy. The fangle jangle, he gets real high.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey! You can't say that. That's interrupted.

'''MARZIPAN:''' High on life!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, okay. That's okay. ''{regarding the email}'' Look! Look, I look like, I look like Daisy Duke.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I thought Daisy Duke's pants were, um, not that color.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No, they probably weren't, but I dyed them purple.

'''MARZIPAN:''' It looks more like a skirt.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What?!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Actually, it looks a lot like one of ''my'' skirts.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I just—Look, Marzipan. I don't wear your skirts anymore.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I don't think that's true.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' See? Could I do a little... jingle jangle?

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing}'' Oh, jingle jangle, he is my friend. Jingle jangle, he is my friend. Jingle jingle, jangle jangle, jingle jingle, jangle jangle. Everyone should have a jingle jangle.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What do you say to that, Shark-Tooth Bubs?

'''SHARK-TOOTH BUBS:''' ''{half singing}'' I got my jingle jangle man, movie man, on the chicken stand.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I have a chicken.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Do you? Where is it? ''{regarding the email}'' I freaked out! I just freaked out! You guys, I totally freaked out.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, my chicken is out in the backyard, usually, but today he is in the laundry room.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I feel like on this DVD, we don't, we don't comment on the emails much during the commentaries.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Have you ever thought about getting a chicken?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' See? My point exactly.

'''MARZIPAN:''' A lot of people keep chickens as pets.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay.

== External Links ==
{{sbemailextlinks|127|2496}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

User:Zonis

2006-07-10T21:42:43Z

Zonis:

Running Gags spotted thus far (that need to be made into pages):

Dancing: Mainly Bubs and Homestar, will dance while repeating the same word or phrase over and over again.

Coach Z being taught: Coach Z is almost always present when things are being taught on the chalkboard.

Coach Z and Listerine/Mouthwash

Talk:Strong Bad Email

2006-07-10T02:05:37Z

Zonis: E-mail Command Lines

{{Template:Talk:Strong Bad Email}}
{{featuredarticle}}

{| style="background:#CFC; border: 1px dashed #090"
|-
| style="padding:10px" | '''Checklist for new Strong Bad Email:'''
*Update main [[Strong Bad Email]] list, and the [[Template:Strong Bad Email|template list]].
*On the main [[Strong Bad Email]] page, update the total emails and various fun facts.
*Update each list in the Strong Bad Email [[Template:StrongBadEmailInfo|navigation template]].
*Point the navigation template at the top of the next-to-last email and [[some kinda robot]] to the current email and vice versa.
*Link the email page to the forum and vice versa, if necessary.
*Redirect <nowiki>[[</nowiki>sbemail***]] to the current email.
|} 

__TOC__

== new menu ==

When the new rap came out, the email [[geddup noise]] is new again, and the emails newer than that aren't there.
--{{User:Nckinfn04/sig}} 20:31, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
: Even odder: I'm trying to load it, and NO emails are listed, and the "random.bat" button leads to [[HR:undefined|this]] (404'd) page (that is, "undefined", without even so much as a ".html".) [[highschool]] works fine though... when linked from the [[Main Pages]] or externally. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:30, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::Most works for me... The only glitchy thing is random.bat. It works fine; it just doesn't scroll. I mean, you click it and the screen stays in place, instead of following the cursor. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I get Jay's error. Very strange {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}}
:::Me too. When I pressed random, it went to undefined but when I pressed it again, it caused my computer to run very slowly. Odd. - [[User_talk:Sahm|talk]] [[User:Sahm|Sahm]] [[Special:Contributions/Sahm|ribs]]
::::I'm having similar problems. Yesterday I couldn't see ''any'' emails listed (and I got a warning dialog saying that Flash was running slowly and was making my computer slow); today the newest one is geddup noise. {{User:Bill/sig}} 16:03, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::For me the entire site has been running '''''very sloooooolyyy''''' (I just checked and the site is back up to 100% speed! I wonder if they were getting a DOS attack or just every desparate H*R fan was hitting the site all at once!). This would explain your problems: the flash files are unable to load the new versions of the .xml files and therefore will either present an error or load an older, cached version. (I too was getting emails up to geddup noise and thought that might be the problem. I didn't use rando though). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, the menu is working just fine now (and doesn't seem to be [[Moving Very Slowly]]... very, very slowly... any more.) If it was loading older .xml files from cache, that might explain why I was getting nothing - I keep my cache as small as possible at all times (hit to loading times, but I have a fast enough connection that it's not that bad, and it helps pages refresh faster.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:48, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Fixed it. Just clear your cache. [[Special:Preferences|How?]]
I cleared the cache but it still doesn't scroll. {{User:Salty/sig}} 02:10, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

== roulette ==

On the menu, the roulette dosen't move around, and it doesn't pick a random email. --{{User:Nckinfn04/sig}} 21:53, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:See the conversation directly above this one. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Of which you were a part of... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:23, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

== External links template ==

I can never remember the verbiage for the external links, and it occurred to me: why don't we have a template for it? So I made one and applied it to the most recent email:

<code><nowiki>{{sbemailextlinks|142|6836}}</nowiki></code> produces this: 
*[[HR:sbemail142.html|watch "secret identity"]]
*[[HR:sbemail142.swf|view the Flash file for "secret identity"]]
*[[Forum:6836|forum thread re: "secret identity"]]

There are a few special cases where the Flash file is different from the HTML file, and the early emails don't have forum threads, so we could also make sbemailextlinks2 and -3 if we wanted. I don't know that it's necessary to convert all the old ones, but it should be helpful on the new ones. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:47, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

:Is it worth it to make it more complicated? I've thought about it before for the info at the top of emails too, but then always talked myself out of it because it seems like it would confuse some for only a small gain (at least for the stuff at the top, this is a better scenario). We could make lots of things easier by using complicated templates, but then the learning curve would increase. I like the idea though, and if others like it too, I wouldn't be against using it. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:23, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

::Well, it saves having to type the name of the toon three times, and I can never remember the wording without looking it up. At the very least, it could be a tool that could be subst'd on each new email. Maybe it could be tweaked (or a "toon" version created) to handle all toons. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:26, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

:::At the '''''*very*''''' least it can be used as a <code>subst:</code> template. If you know about it, you use it, if not you don't. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:12, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== All emails? ==

Does [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=247500&oldid=247175 this] number take into account DVD emails or no? I think that information should be explicit. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:08, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think so, I don't see why they wouldn't count those. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Floppy Disk Container ==

:''This discussion was originally on [[Talk:secret identity]].''

I don't remember now where i got the comment from, but the original Sam & Max comment had been removed because it's in the [[Floppy Disk]] page now. I made the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=secret_identity&diff=248700&oldid=248699 new one] more concise and pointed to the floppy disk page. So what is the precedent for it? Do we simply not mention anything about the floppy disk and simply assume readers know about the floppy disk page (and know where it's at) and will go there to find out what the floppy disk says? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:03, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:I have often wonder why that page is never mentioned on the email page but far as I know, we don't mention the floppy disks on th email page. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:41, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah...it seems like the page should be linked ''somewhere'' on the email page. If it was linked, where would that go? In the remarks section? Or could the link be put in a common location on each email page which features a floppy disk? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:05, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::''[noting edit conflict due to similarity of ideas]'' You know, this should be fixed. [[Floppy Disk Container]] isn't, as far as I can tell, linked to from anywhere relevant, not even the main [[Strong Bad Email]] navigation template. The best it has going for it is that it's in [[:Category:Strong Bad Email]]. Why not have a one-line mention somewhere in each email that points out what the disk title is and gives a link to FDC? I'm thinking either something in the trivia or up in the stats at the top of the page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:12, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::I'd go with Remarks/Trivia on each email that features it. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:20, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I like the idea of the stats position at the top of each page. For example this week's would have the following:
::::'''Floppy Disk:''' [[Floppy Disk Container|sam and max]]
:::right below '''Page Title'''. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:21, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Regarding the link to FDC: We should have a standard. How about this: <nowiki>[[Floppy Disk Container#<game name>|<game name>]] where <game name> is the name of the game written exactly as it is on the disk label. Then, we should insert corresponding IDs into the rows of the table over at FDC, like this: id="<game name>"</nowiki>. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:29, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::That makes sense...so that the link goes to the relevant floppy. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:32, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Until we decide where on the email page to link, I'm going to just start adding the id's to the FDC page. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:35, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Perhaps something like...
* The [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads ''sam and max''.
::::And maybe the italized part will... link to the actual section of the Floppy Disc Container page... I don't think it needs a place up at the top, because not all emails have them. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:55, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::I give up...I thought I could figure out how to add those invisible ID's, but I need help. Is it literally the text, id="sam and max", for example, or am I missing brackets, etc.? Thanks, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:57, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Shouldn't we just go with subheaders within the table, as we do with almost every other table-based page? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:06, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::It looks a little redundant to have the two bold headings though...if we add those subheaders, should we unbold the second occurrence? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Probably. I noticed this, too. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:18, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::What about an invisible tag? To my eye, the current bold text is sufficient as a header... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:20, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::How do you make those? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:23, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Personally, I think the standard headers add too much space to each entry. Dot com's done the id thing before but I don't remember what page he's used it at (probably one of the obscure list page thingys somewhere). I'll check and see if i've linked to it at any point. Or if it's in the help pages. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:24, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::It would've been [[User talk:It's dot com/The System Is Down|here]] if someone had asked already but it's not. I recommend you post an inquiry in his talk page. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::What, you don't think I would be following this thread? :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::Are you kidding? I was ''counting'' on you to answer the question like [[Talk:secret_identity#Past_our_bedtimes|three minutes]] after Trey56 has posed it! ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:21, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I should be more patient (sorry). By the way, the current tags all link to the top of the table (see [[HRWiki:Sandbox#Test]]), but I'm going to leave this project to somebody who actually knows what s/he's doing. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:29, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::You seem to be on the right track. Don't give up. :) By the way, the other pages with IDs are [[Quote of the Week|QotW]] and [[Weekly Fanstuff]]. Also, the underscores may be important (I'm not sure) and there are special characters to watch out for (like question marks, etc.), just so you know. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:26, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::If you need/want help with some of the grunt work, gimme something to do. I am looking for a project. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:Sorry, too many colons. So far, I've added all the tags to [[Floppy Disk Container]], and as soon as we decide where we want the links on the email pages, those need to be added. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::I changed the wording in the Trivia section a little. For one, the label on the disk has the writing on it, not the disk container itself. Also, I changed it from italics to quotes. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:10, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

So, the two main options for adding the links to [[Floppy Disk Container]] on the relevant emails follow (please add comments/preferences):
----
<div style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 132%;"> Top-of-page statistics </div>
In this case, the title for [[secret identity]] would look like this:

:'''Strong Bad Email #142'''

:Chris from Laramie, Wyoming, asks Strong Bad if he has any secret identities. Strong Bad discusses several options.

:'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]] , [[The Poopsmith]] , [[Homestar Runner]], [[The King of Town]], [[Bubs]], [[Marzipan]], [[Strong Sad]] (Easter egg)

:'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand|Bubs' Motor Lodge]], [[Trailer Home]], [[Smoky Office]], [[Marzipan's House]]

:'''Computer:''' [[Lappy 486]]

:'''Date:''' January 25, 2006

:'''Running Time:''' 3:42

:'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

:'''Floppy Disk:''' [[Floppy Disk Container#sam_and_max|sam and max]]
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<div style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 132%;"> Trivia section </div>
In this case, the Trivia section of [[secret identity]] would have the following fact:
:* The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#sam_and_max|sam and max]]".
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=== Top-of-page statistics ===
#<s>I second {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:11, 26 January 2006 (UTC)</s>
#I third. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:34, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
#I fourth. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:04, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

=== Trivia section ===
#I like this one better. The Floppy Disk Container is more of a "remark" or "real-world reference" than a vital statistic, and a casual reader might not know what '''Floppy Disk: *a game*''' means. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
#I agree with Homestar Coder. It flows better in a fun fact-type location. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
#It's an inside joke. All other inside jokes go in the fun facts, so why should this one be different? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
#Y'all are convincing. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:57, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
#I second that notion. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:02, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
#{{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:03, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
# Sounds convincing, so, for now, I'll abstain by voting twice. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:46, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
#{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:17, 27 January 2006 (UTC) ''Good arguments, switching my vote''
#{{User:E.L. Cool/sig}}
{{clear}}

=== Consensus ===
It looks like the trivia section won out. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:17, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:Update: they're done. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:23, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

=== Where does the period go? ===
This will probably seem ridiculous to most everybody reading it, but I want to make all the pages consistent. I'm not an English major, so could somebody tell me which of the following is the correct location of the period?
# The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#sam_and_max|sam and max]]."
# The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#sam_and_max|sam and max]]".
Just wanted to get it right before I made all the changes. Thanks, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:06, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:The second one. That way there's no confusion as to whether Strong Bad included the period or not. (Of course, if there is ever one with a dot at the end, it would go inside the quotation marks.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:11, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks for the help (and sorry to whoever ends up having to patrol all those changes) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:54, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Okay, folks! Cool new fact: According to the W3C, which wins, ID's cannot begin with numbers. So some of the ID's have to be changed, maybe by the discrete insertion of a "id_" before the name (e.g. <code>id="7th_guest</code> -> <code>id="id_7th_guest"</code>). I realize this makes the id's kinda unwieldy and silly, but as they don't affect the content of the page or its meaning I think this is a good overall solution. Please raise here any objections or proposals for modification to this. Thankee! -- [[User:Jweb Guru|Jweb Guru]] 03:28, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

:Count on Jweb to ruin our setup... *Grumble Grumble*. Okay okay, I'll fix it. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:35, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

== Unreleased Email ==

When watching [[Sketchbook (video)]], I documented all the writings on paper seen in the video. One of the things appeared to be an unreleased email with The Cheat. Here's what it said:

''at 3:12''

and then as a special treat 
I let The Cheat answer 
some emails 
 
Dear SB, 
Why so glate? 
-Deb Stein 
 
Yeah, man. I'll gnaw your 
face off. 
-Teh C. (repeat) 
 
Oh man, "I'll gnaw your face 
off!" every year it gets 
funnier! Happy The Cheat 
Day Ilko. <s>Here's hopin you</s> 
May never get the 

Is there anywhere that we could put this?
:That's part of the script for [[cheatday]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:: Well, not the "glate" part, but yeah. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Heh Heh...... Didn't know. That. Thanks for setting me straight. :)-[[User:AtionSong|AtionSong]] 23:35, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

== What is wrong with "Crapfully yours" ==

I don't understand, is he just getting mad about it? It doesnt seem like something one would care about, though I have never sent strong bad an e-mail, I would say crapfully yours.-ken
: He's not getting mad, just exasperated at the extremely old joke. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:16, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

::See [[Crapfully Yours]] for more information. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:30, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I personally think that it is awesome, genious, and creative just like trogdor is, but nobody is sayin he's old, although, trogdor is sooo much cooler. If you sit down and think about it, you'll thinks it's hillarious, i mean, crapfully yours, hahahahahaha, say, i am gunna make another section about strong badia in the strong badia section, sooo i'll see you there. But i will still check this out.-ken

== Email list: Column length and <tt><autocolumn></tt> ==

I noticed that not long ago, my editing the lengths of the columns in the email list were reverted, and not long after, I noticed that [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] added an <tt><autocolumn></tt> tag. I think that's a good idea, but I don't like how the way it's currently implemented deals with the lengths of the columns. Currently, the first two columns are each one item longer than the second two. When email #149 is released, the way <tt><autocolumn></tt> is set up now, the first column will be one longer than the other ''three''. It seems to me that in any other context, the more usual and more natural method is to have all the columns but the last equal in length, with the last column being shorter. When #149 is released, that would mean the last column would be shorter by three items, but because the others are equal, it looks better than having the first column sort of jutting out at the bottom. (Interestingly, I think I was the first one to convert the list from three columns to four, and it wasn't reverted then.) [[User:Gus|Gus]] 23:49, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

:To clarify, when 149 comes out, you would rather have columns of 38, 38, 38, 35 than the 38, 37, 37, 37 that the <tt><autocolumn></tt> tag would display? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:57, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
::<s>My guess is that you mean to have 37, 37, 37, 38 instead of the 38, 37, 37, 37 which would appear with the autocolumn now. Am I correct Gus?</s> Oops, I think I was wrong and Tom got it right. However I think it looks more even the way it is now. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:09, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

::Yes, Tom. Think of it this way: If you think of anywhere else you might see columns of text, you expect each column to go to the very bottom of the page or section or wherever, and have it stop wherever it needs to. Here, though, there is no defined bottom, but 38-38-38-35 gives that effect better than 38-37-37-37. It's more aesthetic. [[User:Gus|Gus]] 00:19, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::Also, would I be right to assume that <tt><autocolumn></tt> is programmed into the wiki software, and would require access to the wiki source to change the way it renders the list? [[User:Gus|Gus]] 00:24, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

== Running along with ze gags! ==

You know the bit at the top of all the articles about SBemail? like Name: pop-up Characters: Strong Bad and all that? why don't we add a new bit to that with Running Gags: Disconnected phone? --[[User:Jetamoo|Coach J]] 14:04, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:Well, it is not so prevolent that it appears in *every single* email so to speak. The [[Floppy Disk]] does, but it has its own page and a reference in the fun facts section. That is where that would appear. Moreoever, these should link to the Disconnected phone's page, but it doesn't seem to [[Disconnected Telephones|have one]] that I know about. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:03, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

::See [[Disconnected Telephones]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:46, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

== Are Strong Bad Emails actually real? ==

Is really sent by ordinary people?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 03:18, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

:Yes it is. In fact, several emails have been sent by members of the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum], including [[montage]]. [[mile]] was the only email they ever made up, because "[[The Cheat]] made it up". You can even email strongbad yourself at ''strongbad@homestarrunner.com'', by using the link on [[The Paper]] at the end of emails. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:22, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

::I Happen to know the person who sent [[japanese cartoon]]. {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 03:24, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

who?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:30, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
:Whoever it is needs a big cookie! But not as big as [[dragon|kaizer's]] :) {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 06:37, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

::In fact, I'ved heard that TBC get thousands of emails a day. I forget in which interview they said that. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:05, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Yeah, they get around a thousand a day, on average. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:21, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

:::It's in the FAQ if you click on Email on the main H*R page. --[[User:Collin|Collin]] 21:09, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

:Probably closer to around a thousand a day, on average.
He works at a EB Games around here{{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 17:32, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

== Era labels ==

Maybe that anonny had a good idea. I put the era labels back, although I did it in a way that is better suited to the autocolumn. Namely, I inserted some special line breaks so that it will correctly number the lines and so that there is never a heading without at least one email title underneath it. I tested it through email 162, and from emails 155 to 158, the three computer headings will be at the top of their respective columns. From emails 159 to 161 it evens the columns out as it starts dividing the Lappy emails, and then beginning at email 162 the second two headers will again be in the middle of their respective columns. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:01, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

:It looks better now than after the first attempt, but it still doesn't look that great. Before the list was clean and unbroken and now it, well, isn't. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

::But that can be a ''good'' thing. Sometimes lists can get ''too'' long. I think dividing it a little actually improves its legibility. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:22, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

:::Yeah, but ugly isn't good either. If you really want to break it up, then why not just [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&oldid=290122 use sections]? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:32, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

::::Those look better than what I had. I changed it back to your version. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:46, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

:::::Okay. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:47, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::Looks great. And boy is it ever Monday! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:17, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Looks great IDC and Tom, I likey. I hate to use such an over-used term such as great joerb, so I make up a Homsar-ish phrase of endearment just for this occassion. ''aHahahaAA this looks like a modern day birthday card.''' {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:50, 21 March 2006 (UTC) oh, well I tried

== Tangerine Dream/Pom Pilot ==

I put a comment in [[weird dream]] about this, but figured the real meat of it belonged here. Maybe it exists unbeknownst to me, but it seems that there out to be a mention of the fact that sbemails are inexplicably accessible through computers other than Strong Bad's own. -BRUCKER
:I'm able to access my email from computers that aren't my own... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
::So am I, but ''not by a single click on a desktop icon'', which is essentially what Strong Bad does in both cases. -BBRUCKER
:::You're right, but it's more of a dramatic device. Other times that we see The Cheat's computer and Pom Pom's Pom Pilot, the email program isn't there. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:56, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

== I think... ==

We should have a Running Gags bit, like what you said about the statistics about Floppy Disk Container, i think we should do a Running Gags one.--[[User:Jetamo|Coach J]] 11:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:No, we already have a seperate page for the floppy disk container. And besides, i just really don't like the idea of it. [[User:Sbmaniac|Sbmaniac]]

== Around his head ==
I think this is wierd but why does the text go around Strong Bad's head, and if it doesn't then how does he know to space the words around his head? He didn't do this in earlier emails but he does now. Andrew 911
:Actually, he did in the earliest emails, I believe... On th' Tandy. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Lets be honest though... If it didn't go round his head, we would get frustrated and want to see what he is typing... Methinks its better the way it is. Anyone else agree?--[[User:Noonelikeskat|josh]] 17:00, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

:::Please use the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum] for conversations like this. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

==NQSBEmails==
Uhh, is there Something Better to call the SBEmail Episodes that aren't SBEmails? "Not Quite SBEmail" sound like the name of a Brand of Cream Cheese or something... Pleez help! ~ [[YOuRmOtHeR182]]
:What would you suggest? I myself have always kinda liked the name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:42, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

== Email Glut ==
Does anyone else think that having 150+ emails listed at the bottom of email page is excessive. Prehaps a list of the most recent and a link to this page would look nicer?
 A semi regesterd user: Aaron

:We had this discussion before at [[Template talk:Strong Bad Email#Overcrowded]]. And I actually made the comment in the next section of that page, but remember that the intent of this template has always been to show where in the big world of emails the current email falls. This wouldn't be possible without having all of the emails listed. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

== E-mail Command Lines ==

Is there a list of all the command lines Strongbad has used to check his e-mail? (IE: sbemail.exe, strongbad_email.exe or run "Strongbad's__email", etc...)

User:Zonis

2006-07-09T20:44:34Z

Zonis:

Running Gats spotted thus far (that need to be made into pages):

Dancing: Mainly Bubs and Homestar, will dance while repeating the same word or phrase over and over again.

Coach Z being taught: Coach Z is almost always present when things are being taught on the chalkboard.