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2006-05-18T19:57:12Z

Totoro: /* Hampster <nowiki>[sic]</nowiki> Dance? */ STUFF'd

== YTMND ==

Is my fun fact on YTMND really unsuitable, I think it makes sense. Also should it be changed to the Wikipedia article? - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Don't think YTMND is unsuitable. Maybe put it in the Remarks section along with the Goof it's under? --[[User:Narwaffle|Narwaffle]] 10:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::I am more concerned with what to do with that link that other guy posted.

==Phone cord==
[[Image:Phone_cord.PNG|thumb|But it's not Dangeresque's phone]]
As demonstrated in the shown image, there is a goof in the phone call scene. Can someone write something about it, beacuse I have writer's block. And no, it is NOT a reference to Dangeresque. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:26, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It IS a reference to [[Disconnected Phone]]. S. What ever. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:I gotta agree, i don't think it's a goof, i think they made a reference to cordless phone on purpose, kinda like an uninteractive easter egg maybe...
::It's just a goof. It's not onscreen long enough to be noticed. TBC didn't notice that they didn't make the phone cord long enough, is all.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 11:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I aggree with Bassbone. It doesen't look like a reference. If it were it would actually look disconnected, not just a stub.

::::I think it's a reference to the cordless phone. remember on [[replacement]]?--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 14:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::I smell a vote coming. :D Democracy!

=="Or" or "For"?==
I thought Homestar said "account number for identity theft" rather than "or identity theft". Anyone else hear that? I don't want to change it in case it's just me. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 15:27, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
*I heard "or." When I first heard it, I assumed it was Homestar pulling together a few phrases that he had heard in relation to giving out personal information in order to form what he though was an intelligent sentence (but which to the rest of us is a complete non sequitur.) It makes less sense from a sentence-structure standpoint, but more sense considering that we are, after all, dealing with Homestar.
**I'd recommend putting a footnote after the word in the transcript saying that it could be either. I'd put it there myself, but I don't know how, and my search for help has been fruitless. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Here's my logica-thingy that proves it's "Or": If Homestar had been able to steal Strong Bad's personal identity by typing in his number, then it would easily be accesible whether he's on the phone with Strong Bad or not. It might be harder to find him if Bubs had a lot of customers, but according to him, Strong Bad is the only one. Also, Homestar has a tendency to piece together words that are similar to the ones he wants. --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 19:08, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Pasty white whatsit? ==

Are you sure SB's saying "bottom"? I'm not sure what he's saying, but it sounds like it starts with a W and has an S in it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It sounds a bit like "whaffum", or perhaps "wawesome" (or "wassum"?). It certainly doesn't sound like "bottom" to me. --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 15:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:As I put it in the first draft of the transcript, it's "boittom" or "bwahttom". Perhaps "Bwahthom."{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 16:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Hilarity Ensues ==

I have a problem with the "Strong Bad's laughter comes from A Jorb Well Done" reference. Two instances of him simply laughing shouldn't be cross-referenced, and I don't don't think the similarity between the two was very strong. After watching the two files, they don't even sound remotely the same. If anything, his laughter would be a reference to crappy sit-coms (a la Brady Bunch) in which the final joke was seemingly gut-busting to the people onscreen so the show could end with a freeze-frame of everyone looking happy.
:But they both are using Strong Bad's insane laughter to make a joke. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::Those two instances of laughter a) come from completely different things, and b) sound absolutely nothing alike, so how on earth can the reference be that the laughter comes FROM "A Jorb Well Done"? The reference makes no sense. You would have to start cross-referencing anything that was even remotely similar if you accept this as precedent. Every time Homestar falls down? Every time Pom Pom laughs?
:::If it's not an actual reference, then it doesn't belong on this page. If it's the exact sound clip then it should go on [[Sound Effects]], though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's laughter, seriously, it happens on a reqular basis, whats next, "Hey, he's walking, lets put that in the wiki!"

Can't it be both? I'm going to have to agree with Joshua here. Both the "A Jorb Well Done" laugh and the "isp" laugh both go on for longer than usual, both get high pitched and insane, and both have a zoom up on the face. Not like his normal "Bwa ha ha" routine. Also, I agree that this is a reference to the sitcom laugh, bo only to a certain extent. If there was a laugh at the end of the Brady Bunch, and then the camera focused in on Greg Brady's face and his laugh went on for 30 seconds getting more shrill and higher pitched by the second... well, you got to admit, something's not normal with this Brady Bunch episode. - El Santo, 13:39 PST, 16 May 2006

The sitcom reference is simply refering to that in both (for example) the B.B. and in this email, the characters are reacting to something only mildly amusing in an over-the-top way in the final moments of the show. Strong Bad's laughter in this episode is over-the-top to the nth degree to drive that point home: it's not at all funny, but it's the last joke, so it's HYSTERICAL! Now go back and watch "A Jorb Well Done." Strong Bad is not being over the top. He's not being hysterical. He's just laughing hard, and since back then he was a bad guy, he laughed hardest when it was at someone else's expense. There's nothing at all extreme about that back-in-the-day laugh. He just thought it was really funny. The olden-days laugh doesn't even build up to any hysterics. It starts out that way. The two references simply don't match. They have as much in common with each other as me writing with a pencil and me coloring with a crayon.

== Hampster <nowiki>[sic]</nowiki> Dance? ==

Didn't see a Fun Stuff link, so I'll post it here. I thought the "break-dancing rodent" might be a reference to the (annoying) Internet meme, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hampster_Dance The Hampster Dance]. Both include animated gifs of a dancing rodent. I'm not positive on this one, but it's the first thing that came to mind when the rodent started not-really-break-dancing on the Lappy. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 18:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:I don't think so. The first thing that came to my mind was the little animated mouse GIF on [[Strong Bad's Website]] {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:21, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

yea id totally say thats a hampster dance reference. back in that day, hampster dance was the only thing the internet was good for anyway. [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 23:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:STUFF'd. Like I said, I'm not positive on this one, but it's worth a discussion. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Not so Magical ==

That "this is where the magic happens" line in the real-world references HAD to come out. That phrase has been around for decades. It did not originate with Cribs.

== Is this worth mentioning? ==

<blockquote>This is the shortest Strong Bad Email name to date, with only three letters.</blockquote>

I think it's cool, but I'm a nerd. What do you think?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 18:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Seems kind of obvious to me, anybody who would find that kind of thing interesting would probably already know. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Eh, maybe because I'm a nerd too, I don't see a problem with it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::It is also [[car|patently false]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:::Yeah, [[12:00]] doesn't have any letters, just numbers. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::: 12:00 doesn't count in my eyes (zero letters, but five characters) but yeah, didn't think of car. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::::Aw, crackles. I forgot about [[car]]. Totally my bad.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 01:06, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Wired Pom Pom? ==

Regarding the comment in Remarks about other characters have Internet access: I need some clarification for my own edification. Pom Pom can obviously check his email through his PDA, but do Palm users need to subscribe to an online service in order to do this, or is it just tacked onto the monthly bill as an add-on, as would happen with someone checking their email through their cell phone?

:It depends; normally a PDA accesses the internet by wirelessly connecting to an ISP, but some work as cell phones too. That being said, the Pom Pilot doesn't look like the phone type. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 21:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::He [[technology|doesn't]]? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I said "Pom Pilot", not "Pom Pom". I'm saying that his PDA doesn't look like the kind of PDA that functions as a phone. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== "CD-ROM Cupholder" is a real call! ==

Go to the very bottom of the page on this link:
http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_cdroms.shtml

You'll notice that the responce homestar gave about the "CD-Rom not being a cupholder" may be a real-world reference. (If for whatever reason you cannot acess the link, here is the text

'''Customer:''' "Hello, is this Tech Support?" 
'''Tech Support:''' "Yes, it is. How may I help you?" 
'''Customer:''' "The cup holder on my PC is broken and I am within my warranty period. How do I go about getting that fixed?" 
'''Tech Support:''' "I'm sorry, but did you say a cup holder?" 
'''Customer:''' "Yes, it's attached to the front of my computer." 
'''Tech Support:''' "Please excuse me if I seem a bit stumped, it's because I am. Did you receive this as part of a promotional, at a trade show? How did you get this cup holder? Does it have any trademark on it?" 
'''Customer:''' "It came with my computer, I don't know anything about a promotion. It just has '4X' on it." 
At this point the Tech Rep had to mute the caller, because he couldn't stand it. The caller had been using the load drawer of the CDROM drive as a cup holder and snapped it off the drive.
[[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
: We previously had a fact stating that that was an urban legend. Maybe it was real; maybe it wasn't. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Hey! Someone deleted it! They could've at least said why they were deleting it. If they thought it was an urban legend, they could have added "this is possibly an urban legend" or something. Jeez. I'm putting it back in, but with a mention of its urban-legendism possibility. [[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::: Just because you found a transcript of it does not make it real. There is also a transcript available of the famous "too stupid to own a computer" tech-support call. Smopes places these under the "undetermined" heading because while there may have been a grain of truth to them at one time, after being passed around for ten years, they've been embellished a lot.
:::: Someone deleted even after I mentioned the possiblity of it being an urban legend. That's like removing the Big Foot reference in Myths and Legends because it may not be true. Well, not exactly, but if it's a notorious tech support call which may or not be true, and the fact STATES that it may or not be true, there is no reason to delete it. We shouldnt be trying to decide on its truth or not, (although that should be mentioned) but whether the brothers chaps MADE THE REFERENCE. and they did. There is no reason to delete it because of it's referential nature, and if you list that it may or may not be true it should NOT be deleted. Also, please sign your posts. [[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::::: There's a simpler answer to your problems than this, and that answer can be summed up in one simple acronym: learn the magic of [[STUFF]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Whoa. I was particularly amused by that site, and by searching around I actually found another thing that's related to what Homestar says:

I work for a local ISP. Frequently we receive phone calls that go something like this:

*Customer: "Hi. Is this the Internet?"
...or...
*Customer: "Do you own the Internet?"
...or...
*Customer: "Is this 'Internet' the same as 'www' and do you own that as well?"

We would love to be able to say, just once, to these callers, "YES! We are the Internet, and we own all."

-- [[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 21:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:Strangely, this is not the first time the above site has been linked on a talk page. See [[Talk:technology#Whos that stupid?]] for arguably the prize-winning tech support story. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Guys, the CD-ROM Cupholder *is* an urban legend. There are no official records of this call actually happening. And it has been quoted in so many different forms, with the joke itself being essentially the same, that you can't really attribute it to anyone in particular. Calling it such on this page is thus appropriate. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:Of course, the fact could still be there, stating that the line references a common urban myth. [[User:64.231.120.38|64.231.120.38]] 21:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::As Kiefer said, it ''is'' a [http://www.snopes.com/humor/business/wordperf.htm legend]. Note that it [http://www.snopes.com/info/glossary.asp does not matter] whether or not it ever actually happened to be classified as a legend. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== The incredible vanishing trivia ==

Someone took out the "back of the Lappy" trivia before I could get to it (I can think of seeing it two places at least, in Animal and Part-Time Job), and I had to take out the "This is the first time we see Bub's laughing" one since he laughs with the rest at the end of Labor Day. Well, chuckles, but it's still laughing. Just an FYI.
:Like Jay said in response to a previous comment, put it in STUFF if you're not sure. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]]
::This wasn't a "is this right?" comment. I WAS sure. But people hate it when their remarks, trivia, etc are deleted without any explanation, so i explained.
:::Sorry, I misspoke. What I meant to say is that if the wiki community can't agree, it should be STUFF'd. That seems to be the case, because the fact is back up. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Datum? ==

This might be kind of obscure, or even accidental, but I had a thought that when SB says "Datum sounds good", not only is it a play off of the word (and obviously "that"), but it may be a reference to to cheesy Westerns and the such of the 40s and 50s when the Indians in such films used a dialect in which they would put "um" on the end of english words. Like for example, "He-um heap good man. Mighty brave." And other such nonsense. Did anyone else grow up watching these movies? -- [[User:Paulsint|Paulsint]]
:I never would have thought of that if you hadn't mentioned it, but now that you did, the tone of voice in which he says that line seems a little too "old-West-style Indian" to be coincidence.

::It wasn't just old-style movies; people really did (and do) put an -um (or -im) suffix on the end of words. Only verbs, though. It's a transitivity marker (iirc) that shows up in certain pidgin and creole Englishes. (I believe you'll find it, for example, in [http://tpi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tok_Pisin Tok Pisin]) I don't know, myself, if actual American Indians ever actually talked like this, but it's a common feature of pidgin Englishes, and thus something that writers of Westerns could have immediately seized upon when trying to write "native talk". [[User:67.171.71.112|67.171.71.112]] 05:21, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== speech impediment ==

Under Remarks:

''When Homestar says the word "internet" after he first answers Strong Bad's call, he speaks without his trademark speech impediment.''

MAybe it should be clarified what the word "internet" would sound like with Homestars speeech impediment... cause im not hearing too much of a difference.[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 00:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

:I would imagine it would sound like "in-tew-net" or somesuch. I hear a clear "R" sound in there.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 06:56, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:: I would imagine it would sound like "Inn-or-net" which is EXACTLY what I'm hearing.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 19:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Zzzzz... ==

I just thought I'd mention that when it cuts back to the Lappy at the end of the email, it shows 99% Complete with the text "Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..." under it. Is it at least worth mentioning? --[[User:GLO3|GLO3]]
:I'd say yes. I noticed that not in the transcript. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
I said "Zzzzz..." when I watched this. I did not find it funny.
One of the worst in a while. --[[User:Dongolev|Dongolev]] 21:30, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar has another new mouth thingy or I'm emo ==

I added [[Image:homestar_pshh]] in the early stages of this article, as well as text saying it's an unusual mouth shape for him. It's relevant, WHY THE CRAP DID SOMEONE DELETE BOTH THE FACT AND THE IMAGE? The KB really hates me, I should leave. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, this face was show already in [[Cool Things]] when Homestar says to Strong Sad " Oh, and good luck tonight"

:We have [[Talk:garage sale#Eyebrow? (DECLINED)|precedent]] in not including "new facial expressions" as fun facts... (Oh, and don't worry, they certainly weren't deleted just because you put them there... you know we all love you, Volbie.) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:40, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

::Oh ok I see now. 
::Eww, you love me. =P - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 08:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Motion blur ==

Should a connection be drawn between the quick-spin around to the back of the Lappy and the quick-drop into the basement in [[Sbemail 150?!?]]? They're both recent, it's the same motion blur effect and the same sound effect... but it's rather minor... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

eh... in my opinion its too minor and not really an interesting fact. we dont have to mention eeeeevery style similarity between cartoons.[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 21:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hold music vs. car alarm==

Possible [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Category:Homestar_Runner_running_gags Homestar Runner running gag] - Homestar voicing the sound of the hold music in this email, just as he voiced the sound of the car alarm in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. I feel like he's done it at least one other time. Thoughts? - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 18:37, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:He also does the theme from <strike>Knight Rider</strike> Night Court starring Richard Moll when you spin his buzzer (in [[car]]). And maybe when he did the "Back In Black" music intro in that one Answering Machine... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:COURT. Night COURT. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]
::Right, right... That. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::"Back in Black" is the one I was thinking of. All-time classic. Anyway, is this enough for a running gag page? I'll create it, but I figured I should get some feedback first. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 22:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::::What would you call the page, out of curiosity? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Homestar Singing? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:54, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::That would be my suggestion too. It's not perfect, but it's more concise than anything else I came up with. Homestar Sound Effects would be a decent alternative. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 00:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That was already [[Talk:Running Gags#Homestarrunner sings|suggested and declined]]. We have a full page for all the songs on [[Songs]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:39, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::That barely looks declined to me. I'd say go for it. It's a more intelligent page than something like Strong Mad Smiling. >.> - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:27, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::[[Homestar Singing]] is up. I suggest we take further discussion over to its [[Talk:Homestar Singing|talk page]]. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 15:28, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Rodent hand gesture ==

There's a lengthy comment about the rodent's hand gesture being the metal horns, but I think that's wrong. For one, metal horns are always with the fingers pointing up, and the rodent points his hands down several times. It's way more likely that it's just supposed to be a hip-hop hand gesture, completely unrelated to the horns. I can't find a good cite, though, so I haven't changed it. Any kind soul want to help out?
: Frankly, I think that the current fact is alredy too long, Clanky, too long! Wouldn't mind seeing it altered heavily... heck, wouldn't mind seeing it DELETED!!, personally. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::Agreed - he's supposed to be breakdancing, so why would he make a heavy metal gesture? - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Of course, it does say "NOT REALLY BREAK DANCING" in those large yellow letters. [[User:64.231.120.38|64.231.120.38]] 21:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== missing arm ==

I'm not sure if this should go in "goofs" or "remarks", and I'm not sure of the best way to word it, so I'll just describe my observation and let someone else put it in the article (if it's deemed worthwhile). When watching the flash file, I noticed that right after Strong Mad declares himself to be a website, when we see Bubs and Strong Bad laughing, Bubs' right arm (the one out of frame) is missing. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 22:16, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:It's neither a goof or a remark, it's a Flash artifact, and therefore non-notable. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 22:20, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, this happens nigh-universally in H*R toons when a major body part of a character is totally offscreen for an entire scene. Arms vanish, legs vanish, objects vanish, and sometimes a limb will even get duplicated. Unless something that has no excuse to be there is seen (like the right-hand Homestar's mustache in [[Senorial Day]] or some of the items that never appear on-camera in [[garage sale]]), it shouldn't be in. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::And in some of these instances, not only are they noteworthy they are actually classed as Easter eggs. The Mustached Homestar mentioned above, and the signing of the ancient fence paintings from [[myths & legends]] being two examples. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:51, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Speaking of out-of-frame stuff, I noticed that at the end, there's a small square off to the left that gets highlighted before the easter-egg "O", but it doesn't appear to do anything. Again, this is likely not something to be included in the article, but does anyone know what it is, or perhaps what it was supposed to be? - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 08:30, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Old Bubs ==

Just throwing it out there: "old man Bubs" related to "[[Fall Float Parade|old mista Bubs]]"? {{User:VolatileChemical/sig}}
:Bubs is often described as old, isn't he? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Sweet Cuppin' Rodents? ==

Is it just me, or does the song the song that plays when the breakdancing mouse appears sound a bit like the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes theme? -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 01:52, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

isp

2006-05-18T19:50:04Z

Totoro: /* Fun Facts */ added checkstuffpage; about to create STUFF page with one item

{{sbenav|152|senior prom|some kinda robot}}
[[Image:Isp.PNG|thumb|"Ma'am, please calm down. Your CD tray is not a cup holder."]]
Gary from the UK asks about Strong Bad's [[Wikipedia:Internet service provider|ISP]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Office]], [[The Field]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Garage]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' May 16, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:23

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}''A badaladoo, it's time for email, bra-doop-ba-dabadoo.
<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: ISP</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
Since you answer emails, you must have some sort of 
internet, right? What kind of internet do you guys get in 
Strong Badia? Who runs it? Is it expensive? 
Your bestest buddy in the whole wide world, 
Gary, UK
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "Not even close," very quickly after "Your bestest buddy in the whole wide world," and says "UK" as, "You 'kay?"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Yeah, I'm fine, Gary. Calm down. Of course I've got the internet. How else could I download this awesome animated gif/gif of a cute breakdancing rodent. ''{Pronounces "gif/gif" as /gif/, /jif/}''

''{A progress bar pops up with a ding that says "11% Complete" with "Less than a fortnight remaining" below}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' What??!! Eleven percent? I started downloading this thing like two days ago! Oh, that's IT!! Hold on to your fat, sweaty D&D playing headsets, tech support. 'Cuz Strong Bad's about to Do-Sum-Bow-Dis!

''{The camera rotates around the Lappy to a rear view as Strong Bad picks up the telephone. There is a phone ringing sound and the screen is split by a phone cord with Homestar Runner in the office on the left and Strong Bad on the right. On Homestar's cubicle wall there is a Post-It Note that reads "Note to self: Chew more." Homestar wears a headset.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thank you for calling the internet, may I have your account number or identity theft, please?

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, but you can have a heapin' helpin' of my unbridled rage!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{reading slowly from sheets of paper}'' Ma'am, please calm down. Your CD tray is not a cup holder. ''{turns page}'' I cannot help you clear your browser cache. No, I'm not in India.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Shut up and listen. ''{bangs hand on keyboard, causing Homestar to drop the papers in surprise}'' My internet is crawling along like... something... funny... that crawls along.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' All right, I can help you with that. Please hold while I transfer you to someone who can help you with that.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{incredulous}'' What?!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' Doo doot-tsp. Do doo doot-tsp. Do doo doot-tsp.

''{Cut to a long shot of the office as Homestar stands up. Homestar is the only visible tech representative.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{still singing}'' It's the hold music, do doot-tsp. Pa doo doot-tsp. Doodoo doo doot-tsp. ''{high pitched voice}'' Hold, music!

''{Cut back to the splitscreen as Homestar sits down.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thank you for holding. Your call is very unportant to us. The next available representative wi—okay, I'm back! Lemme just verify your address so I can send you my weight in free sign-up CDs.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh, enough! ''{bangs hand against keyboard again}'' I'm marching my pasty white bwathom down there to talk to the man in charge!

''{He slams the phone down and walks offscreen during Homestar's next line.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I'm so glad we could get that resolved. Is there anything else I could—

''{Cut to Strong Bad marching across The Field at dusk as march music plays in the background. Strong Bad ends up at Bubs' Concession Stand, slightly out of breath from the marching.}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{as the camera zooms in}'' Well if it isn't my lone internet customer. How's e-business?

''{Cut to Strong Bad from inside the concession stand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now listen here, old man Bubs! What's the big idea of throttling me down?!

'''BUBS:''' Throttling you down?! That's not one of the ninety-nine ways I rip you off!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, back in the day I used to connect at twelve-hundred baud, but ever since ''the merger'' I'm lucky if I get twelve baud.

'''BUBS:''' Hmm.

''{Cut back to Bubs.}''

'''BUBS:''' Let's head down to the datum center and see what we can find.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Dat'um sounds good.

''{Cut to the garage which is currently housing several computers with Bubs' face on them and is sporting a sign labelled, "Datum Center".}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{indicating the computers}'' So this is where the magic happens. I wonder where the trouble could be.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sarcastically}'' Yeah, I wonder.

''{Camera pulls back to reveal a computer with a garden hose sticking out of it and smoke issuing from the back}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' It's probably not this computer with the garden hose coming out of it.

'''BUBS:''' Hey! Somebody's suckin' up all my bandwidth!

''{Cut to a hole in the wall with the garden hose running through, then outside to Strong Mad sucking on the end of the hose. Strong Bad and Bubs walk up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Mad!

''{Startled, Strong Mad takes the hose out of his mouth. His mouth is now tiny.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' ''{in a high-pitched voice}'' I'm a website!

''{Cut to Strong Bad and Bubs as they both start laughing, with the off-screen Strong Mad soon joining in (in his regular voice). The laughter gets more and more hysterical until it reaches a psychotic peak. At that point we cut back to the Lappy. For a moment, the status bar reads "99%" and has "Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..." written below where it previously read "Less than a fortnight remaining". With a ding, this is replaced by "100%" and "Already?!!" The Lappy's screen then shows an animated gif of a rat dancing to computer music. The rat is replaced by yellow text that says "NOT REALLY BREAK DANCING" and [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:Homestar in CD form.PNG|thumb|CD Runner]]
*When Homestar mentions the free sign-up CDs, click on the [[Sticky Notes|post-it note]] that reads "note to self: chew more" to see a picture of them.
*At the end of the email, click on the "O" in "Not Really Break Dancing" to see a collection of free sign-up CDs in the shape of Homestar running backed by music similar to the [[Theme Song Video]]. This particular musical arrangement was heard in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]].

==Fun Facts==
{{checkstuffpage}}
===Explanations===
*D&D stands for [[Wikipedia:Dungeons & Dragons|Dungeons & Dragons]], a popular [[Wikipedia:Tabletop_role-playing_game|pen and paper role-playing game]] that, like working in tech support, is often associated with "geek culture".
*[[wikipedia:Baud|Baud]] is measure of the symbol rate made to the transmission medium per second in a digitally modulated signal.
*[[wiktionary:datum|Datum]] is the singular form of the word data.
*A [[wiktionary:fortnight|fortnight]] is a period of two weeks. The word "fortnight" is most often used in the UK, which is where the emailer is from.
*[[wiktionary:Bandwidth_throttling|Throttling]] is the limitation of a computer's ability to call data from a server within a certain period of time; it is used to alleviate network congestion and server crashes that result from high usage or too many incoming connections.
*Homestar's message "your call is very unportant to us" is a spoof of 'on hold' messages. They often repeat things such as "Thank you for holding. Your call is important to us. Please stay on the line. A specialist will be with you shortly."

===Remarks===
[[Image:Lappybackside.png|thumb|The lappy's back panel]]
*It is unclear how Strong Bad is connected to the Internet - there does not appear to be a network cable plugged in to the back of the Lappy, and it is unlikely that the computer has a wireless connection. However, it is possible that Strong Bad's Internet connection works in a similar way to the [[Disconnected Telephones]].
*The [[Wikipedia:GIF|GIF]] file format does not support any form of sound on its own. The animation that Strong Bad downloaded is either not a true animated GIF, or it is embedded in a webpage that also contains embedded sound.
*When Homestar says the word "internet" after he first answers Strong Bad's call, he speaks without his trademark speech impediment. Same goes for "representative" while Strong Bad is on hold.
*Bubs refers to Strong Bad as his lone internet customer. It is unknown whether Free Country USA has other ISPs, but Strong Sad, the Cheat and Homestar all seem to be connected to the internet too. However, The Cheat and Strong Sad would presumably use Strong Bad's internet connection since their computers are in the same residence, and it's possible Homestar gets his connection for free as an employment benefit. Pom Pom may or may not have subscribed to an ISP through his Pom Pilot, though he can clearly access the Internet.
*While the first time we saw the back of the Lappy was in the email [[part-time job]], this is the first time we have seen a clear view of the various ports and inputs on the back of the computer.
*Assuming that the animated gif is downloading at a constant speed, with "less than a fortnight remaining", it would mean Strong Bad started the download around 40 hours ago, ie later in the day, two days ago.
*Although they are normally considered unimpressive, the gif does employ two common dance moves: The Cabbage Patch and Raise the Roof.
*This is the first time Bubs has been seen openly laughing. He previously suppressed his laughter at "Da Bee" in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] and merely chuckled in [[labor day]].
*At the end of the email, outside the frame on the left, just below the paper, there is an invisible button. Clicking on it doesn't appear to do anything.

===Goofs===
[[Image:Bubs Hidden Teeth.PNG|thumb|150px|Walking backwards?]]
* The last time Homestar imitates the hi-hat sound in his hold music or when he's getting up from his chair, his mouth doesn't move.
* Bubs' mouth outline is just barely visible on the backside of his silhouette. Altering the brightness and contrast can make the error more apparent.

===Inside References===
*Strong Mad first unsuccessfully attempted to alter his voice in [[helium]].
*Strong Bad's confusion over the pronunciation of the word "GIF" is a reference to [[website]].
**Strong Bad was also first seen using an animated GIF involving a rodent in that email.
*The Easter egg at the end refers to [[Bug In Mouth Disease]], which in turn refers to [[Theme Song Video]].
*The icon of a 5 1/4 inch floppy disc on the download-progress screen is another instance of Strong Bad using outdated [[Strong Bad's Technology|technology.]]
*The tech support scene also has a [[Disconnected Telephone]].

===Real World References===
*When Homestar says "No, I'm not in India," he is refering to the [[Wikipedia:Outsourcing|outsourcing]] of Western tech-support labor to Eastern countries like India.
*The absurd amount of "free sign-up CDs" is a reference to the ISP [[Wikipedia:America Online|America Online]], who is notorious for aggressively marketing its services with free-trial CDs through mass mailings, newspaper and magazine inserts, and in-store displays.
* The Break Dancing Rat's dance involves making a hand sign out of a fist with index and little fingers extended. This is today widely known as the symbol for heavy metal ([[Wikipedia:Devil horns|Devil horns]]) invented by [[Wikipedia:Ronnie James Dio|Ronnie James Dio]], a popular heavy metal vocalist in bands such as [[Wikipedia:Black Sabbath|Black Sabbath]]. This is another reference in H*R to 80's metal, along with such things as "Satriani 5" and the "Proud Anselmo".
* Homestar's mention of a lady who used her CD-ROM drive [http://www.snopes.com/humor/business/wordperf.htm as a cupholder] is part of an [[Wikipedia:urban legend|urban legend]] about a notorious tech-support call.
* The "breakdancing rodent" Strong Bad tries to download is based off [http://www.hampsterdance.com/ Hampster Dance] a popular website from a few years ago which featured a number of animated [[Wikipedia:Hamster|hamsters]] dancing. This site spawned a number of imitators.

==External Links==
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{{Strong Bad Email}}

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Totoro: Thanks for the help

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== Wilde Coincidence? ==

Your name is a reference to ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'', is it not? And furthermore, does that indicate that you identify with the character Dorian Gray, or are you just a fan of the book/movie/story/author? If you are referencing the novel, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. I'm a big Oscar Wilde fan myself, and I wrote an essay on ''The Picture of Dorian Gray'' for Philosophy class, back in June. -[[User:Polly|Polly]] 07:47, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Actually, I've been trying to find the novel to read. I only know about Dorian Gray from the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen film. I like reading the background of such things, which is why I want the novel. I haven't yet had an oppurtunity to get to the library yet, and it's never in at the bookstore...
::EDIT: I got my mum to check the book out for me instead. All is well. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Sorry for the edit ==

Ya sorry, that was pretty stupid of me, I just wanted to see if anyone would notice and change it. I promise nothing of the sort will happen again.
:That's quite all right. No lasting harm done, and it was all taken care of quickly. Thanks for apologising, though. I hope you enjoy the rest of your time here. ^-^ --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Moved examples into list ==

I hope it's okay, but on [[Talk:Ice Cream]] I went ahead and moved your examples into the list itself and put a note on it so others will edit it as they see fit. If you want, repost with your opinion on whether it should be a running gag. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:48, 11 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Yes, of course it's fine. Anything for the good of the wiki, yeah? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== England ==

Have a good trip! Never mind the bullocks! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:30, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:England, huh? That's quite the trip you're taking. Hope it's a good one. We'll try to keep the wiki afloat during your absence, but it will be tough. Have a good time. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:30, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Away Message Song ==

I'll be away in England for the next three weeks, y'all. Sorry. To make up for my not being here to help the Wiki, I offer you this away message song. Yes, it's the same 'Believe It Or Not' song that Homestar and George Costanza have sung to before. 

''Believe it or not, ''
''I'm away from the comp, ''
''So leave a message just for me. ''
''I must be out, or I'd IM you back. ''
''Where could I be? ''
''Believe it or not, you're alone! ''

Please, hold your applause. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Well, Seany-sama, how was England? If you're from Pennsylvania, how come you spell favorite "favourite"? I'm from Texas, one of your other favou—I mean, favorite places. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:28, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::I spell everything the English way coz, well, coz I'm so hung up on England. Originally, though, it was a side effect from visiting Neopets and it's just stuck with me. And all those other reasons about it actually being the real and correct spelling and all. And as for England itself... Well, to tell the truth, it's not so different from here, except for the television programmes, when you get right down to it. But, despite being faintly similar, it was a total blast.
:::Did you go to the tower, or the abbey, or the palace? Did you ride the Eye? The last time I was there, I got to drive a car by myself through the cities and highways of Scotland. ''That'' was fun, and not just a little weird being on the wrong side of the road. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:57, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::Me, I didn't really do much of anything a normal tourist does. I went up to stay with my friend, who I met a couple years ago online. We've been planning this forever. I stayed at her house up in Nottingham, so most of the sights I saw were generally A) really cool and loud, 2) around the general Nottingham area, and D) more "fun" than "historic" or "tourist-y". My mum and sister did the whole bus-tour thing throughout England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, and even nipped down to France for a day, though. But I was more content to stay with my best friend than go sightseeing.

==Sound Effects==
I think it's great you're spearheading this project. Look at the formatting changes I just made (putting each table cell on a new line and a space after the align=center part). I think that makes the code easier to read. Also, be sure to link every instance in the last column. A user shouldn't have to search up and down the list for a link. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:31, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:All right. Thanks for the advice (and the help). And I just like making lists. I have tons of similar lists on my computer (none are H*R related, though). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Secret==

Yes, it does. I was wondering if someone would see that. you win. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 20:41, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Synonyms ==

Um, have you been known to collect synonyms? I saw that in your entry. --[[User:The 386|The 386]] 00:31, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:For some things. Synonyms are useful if you write a lot. That way, you don't come off as boring by repeating yourself. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

So, we all know that. But do you REALLY do that for a livin'? --[[User:The 386|The 386]] 00:33, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Currently, I don't do ''anything'' for a living. I do it as more of a hobby. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Hobbies ==

I see. Why is that your hobby? --[[User:The 386|The 386]] 00:36, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:I think 'coz I'm weird like that' works best here. Anyway, I have a lot of hobbies, some of which I take more seriously. Some, like my synonym collections, are just for fun. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I think you're right. If you want, you can tell me about synonyms in my talk page. --[[User:The 386|The 386]] 00:39, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Well, aside from all those ones for regurgitation, I only collect synonyms for 'crazy'. You can see them all [http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/16326646/ here]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I remember learning that in school. But don't you want to tell me about it in my talk page? --[[User:The 386|The 386]] 00:57, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Well, I figure we're already here... Would you like me to move the discussion, then? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Uh, no. Just leave it here. --[[User:The 386|The 386]] 01:05, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:All right then. Maybe we can continue some other time on your page. But for now, I'm gonna go... [[Place]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Okay then. I'll try to log on tomorrow. But till then, I'm outta here! --[[User:The 386|The 386]] 01:13, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Note ==

You asked for a note encouraging you to do that work on the Videlectrix games. I have left such a note [[Talk:50K_Racewalker#New_Racewalker_Image|here]]. See also the bit about the music. Thanks for being willing to do this. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:05, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Willing, yes... Unfortunately, by the time I got here, it seems someone already added all the music links (although I was able to make a few minor corrections). As to the other bit... D'you want me to just include a new "Official Videlectrix Description" section in each game, or what? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 16:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::Oh, whatever you think is best. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Looks like someone beat me to the punch there, too. I did get to do some minor formatting, though... Ah, well. Next time, I won't get 12 hours sleep before starting a project. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Thank You ==

Thanks, Dorian. I didn't even notice it happened. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 17:11, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:You're welcome. Any time. Just remember: CONSTANT VIGILANCE. (And if you know that quote, you get a cookie.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Yeah! Thanks, dude. First time someone trolled my page :) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:21, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:First time someone trolled my page too. But then, I was reverting all his edits, so it was to be expected. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I know that quote. Its from Harry Potter book 4, from Mad-Eye Moody. (Cookie please?) {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:30, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::<nowiki>*</nowiki>gives Bubsty a cookie* Right in one. =) Noice work, Clanky. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Bottommost vote ==

Hey Dorian. This is a reminder that only your bottommost accept vote counts in STUFF. The one from the upper voting section has been removed. Please review this and make any changes if necessary. Thanks. (And thanks for voting for my revision. :) ) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:02, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:Oh, okay. I didn't know that. First time voting for a revision... Keep it the way it is, with the vote at the revised version. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::As it turns out, I was persuaded that the revision was wrong, so I split the second half of it into its own item. You should review it an make a new vote accordingly. Sorry for all the confusion. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:49, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Oy. Complication upon complication, eh? And it seems such a simple fact... So, in essence, I voted the same way you did for both facts. Thanks for the heads-up. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Yeah, how did it become such a mess? ;) One last thing (and I'm really not trying to bother you with all this)... Would you like to fix your vote in the [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/Strong_Bad_is_a_Bad_Guy#Good_Ol.27_Uncle_Sam|archive]]? If so, then please do so. Just put a note in the edit summary to see your talk page. Or I could fix it for you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:17, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::Yes, please fix it for me. No one will question it if it comes from you, I've noticed. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::I swear this is the last time I'll post on this subject on your talk page. After studying the evidence a little closer, it seems the ''drawing'' of Uncle Sam didn't come about until the 1830s. So I changed my vote to the revision. (Not that you have to vote the same way I do, but since we've been through it together ''this'' far, I thought it would only be polite for me to let you know I'd switched again. But I'm ''not'' switching ''any more''... I hope.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:04, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks. I didn't realize that. [[User:Shnizzedy|Johnny Baby]] 15:47, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

== Hmm.. I thought I checked that ==

Must not have notice he was already blocked. (I really did check—honest!) {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:49, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
:Oh, I believe you. Sometimes it's easy to glance over a name. I've done that sort of thing many times in my day. Nice catch anyway, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==I wouldn't put ''anything'' in that yellow man's mouth!==
Yes, your memory of a decision not to transliterate The Cheat Talk is correct: see [[HRWiki talk:Standards#Standardize "The Cheat Noises"]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:33, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
:Ah, thanks... I can never find that when I want it. And I wonder if that urban legend about a dog's mouth being cleaner than our own even applies to yellow ones. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Defender of the Wiki==
[[Image:defender of the wiki.jpg|thumb|Handcrafted by Fell Blacksmiths]]DorianGray was one of several users assiduously reverting the tsunami of edits of an IP-shifting troll-bot the night of November 11th 2005. For your heroism, this [[HRWiki:Barnstars|barnstar]] seems a small token. And your new Viking name will be DorianGray TrollBane. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:00, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:Many congraturations!!! (Hey Wilbur, mind if I eat the last one?) {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 16:30, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
::Woo! Thanks, guys. Glad to help out. I just did what anyone with the best interest of the wiki at heart would do. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::P.S. Yeah, Bubsty, go ahead. I was just gonna put it at the end of my new card game anyway.

== Yeah...sorry about that. ==

About the Star Wars intro on [[haircut]], I was really tired when I heard that. The "Da Da Da Dear" sounded like the opening notes of the Star Wars main theme to me, at the time. Now it just sounds...not like that.

Anyway, sorry.
-{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}}
:No problem. I can see how one might think that, but it's really kind of... not that. No need to be sorry. That's the way the wiki works, yeah? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Oh, come on. A Holiday Greeting most likely to be reverted? It doesn't sound like Chriiiii(st) to you? Listen to it one more time just to make sure. If you don't hear it though, I understand. Or did you revert it because you thought I was being in appropriate? Either way, I understand.

Sorry again.
-{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}}
:::Yeah, I'm thinkin' more of who it would offend rather than what it sounds like. The page has a history of that revert, and I was just following what [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] put last time I remember it being reverted (right down to the edit comment). Maybe we could take it to the talk page. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::::Understandable, but we didn't write/say/direct this. I thought we were here to report and act as a reference. I know it will offend a few people, but we're just supposed to state the facts, aren't we? Maybe it deserves a vote.

::::-{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}}

==quote?==
:As you might have noticed, I have a new quote thingy on my user page. Do you have a quote you can/want to use? Just keep it under PG-13. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 19:02, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
::You came to the right guy, then. ^-^ I have a lot of quotes I use all the time... Let's see... How about this one: "Don't put off until tomorrow what you can put off until the day after tomorrow." --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::That is the first time I hear that saying in English. It's far more common in Hebrew. ("Al tidkh'e lemakhar ma she'ata yakhol lidkhot lemakhrataim") {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:39, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Really? That's neat... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Thanks. I'm usin that. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:23, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
==award'd==
:So... for being a cool person, (and for being the first person to notice my guestbook), you get the '''thank you award'''.
:Thanks! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:29, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
[[Image:Thankyouposter.PNG|thumb|The thank you award presented to '''DorianGray''']]
::Thank ''you'', and you're welcome. ^-^ And a very merry Decemberween to you too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::Sorry, to keep posting, but I have one more thing. After counting every single e-mail password reminder I got, (which took a long time), I found out that I got 4992 password reminders. Maybe next time Dorian... {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:45, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Aw, man. Although I hope there ''isn't'' a next time... Ah, well. I'll go change mine to second place. Or "one of the most". Or something like that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==New Format==
Hey DorianGrey. I was wondering, did you bring up your new format unto Standards? Try to clear it up with them before you implement new formats. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:03, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
:Well, actually... It was discussed a lot under one of the Running Gags (I forget which), and was then applied to several other pages. I just was bored and thus decided to take the next step. If I was out of order, sorry. It was discussed with users I respect a lot, so I figured it wasn't too bad. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::If you discussed it, it isn't out of order. Most people didn't like italics, though. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 00:13, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Well, we liked italics better than the <nowiki></nowiki> tags, I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Awww, that's the sweetest guestbook signature! ==

Thanks! :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:53, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
:Any time. Coz it's true. If I had a list of favourite users, you'd be on it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Really? How come? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:58, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
:::I think it has to do with how you always get those OGGs for the debated wordstyles. That's pretty awesome. I mean, if I could do that, I'd be all the time making my own QOTWs. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Check out [http://www.goldwave.com Goldwave] (if you're a Windows user). It's what I use - all you gotta be able to do is record from your "What U Hear" or "Wave Out Mix" on your soundcard's mixer. STill, thanks. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:02, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Wow, that seems complicated. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::It's a relatively simple and yet full-featured sound editor - personally, I think it's just as good as a more expensive package like Sound Forge. Give it a try. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:16, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::All right, but what do I click on? Is it free? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::On the main page, click on "Goldwave 5.12 is Available", then in the Download Links section, click on one of the links to download the program. It's shareware, and it will start prompting you to register it after a month (I think). It's something like $40 to register (or at least it was when I registered it, which was some time back). {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:26, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Ooy. I dun care for shareware... Not if it's gonna prompt me for cash. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::::If you can't afford the money-cost variety, might I recommend [http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ Audacity]. Or even if you can! This is the best of both worlds: it's free, and it's really high-quality non-crap. I mean, the digital music labs at both Eastman School of Music and UNC have it on their computers. Plus it's open source so it's good karma. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:46, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::::Actually, I already have Audacity. Smileyface pointed me in such a direction, when the .OGGs were being added to [[Sound Effects|my pride and joy]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Nonsense con Carne ==

Hey man! what's up? I didn't even realize [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Stux&diff=215077&oldid=215069 until now] I had [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Stux&diff=210301&oldid=210298 blatantly] ... um borrowed, your [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Stux&diff=208684&oldid=208666 nonsense incarnate line]. My my, no wonder I was coming up with such "great ideas". --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:33, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
:Great minds think alike? Or it could simply be that "nonsense incarnate" is simply such a great description of everyone's favourite blue midget Homestar. I, in turn, can say I got it from his [[Homsar|character page]]'s opening lines.
:To be honest, I hadn't even noticed. But thanks for giving credit to me anyways. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==theres water on mars!==
:I just saw this: [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6a/Water_on_mars.jpg PROOF] THAT THERES WATER ON MARS! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:07, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, there is. =3 Mars has polar ice caps. *checked the link before you even sent it* ;) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Aw crap. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:10, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
::::...Bubsty. For one; what is the point of this outburst? And two; plenty of people have known for as long as '''I''' can remember that there ''is'' water on the moon. Except that it's frozen. So... Ice. There is icecaps on Mars indeed. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 05:11, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::You guys don't get it. look at the picture. it's a joke.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 05:15, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::... {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 05:18, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::''{Edit conflict}'' Yup. Made me smile. Though it might have been more effective if they had used LIFE cereal, or the board game, and said "Life on Mars." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:19, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::'''edit conflict x3''' yeah, its just a joke homestramy. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:21, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::::I got it. I just commented with "...", because I couldn't believe how spaced of me to not realise that I shouldn't stick my nose into ''everything''. :) {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 05:29, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::I stick my nose into everything... ''see!'' Okay, I gotta go study for my test tommorrow. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:50, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

== How could I forget? ==

In answer to your question of how I could forget to link Dot com's name correctly: actually, I forget that sort of thing all the time. I can be pretty absent-minded, especially when I'm thinking about otheer things, like a project that I'm working on. So, thanks for catching that one for me! I probably wouldn't have for quite some time. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:13, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
:No problem. Maybe I'll watch it particularly, just in case it happens again. Or maybe he should just have a main namespace redirect. I mean, he's cool enough. ;) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Thanks! ==

Thank you for reverting the Peasant's quest page. I was trying to revert it, but my mom was yelling at me to get off so I didn't have a chance.--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 19:59, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
:No problem. I would've reverted it earlier, but wanted to see if anyone else would get to it first. All about teamwork, isn't it? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Ayuh.--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 21:12, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

==Trollage==

Wow. First troll in a while. What a waste of one of the few chances to troll nowadays. The least he could have done is waited until the dark of night, and then moved a million pages here there and everywhere... In any case, thanks for the revert. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:18, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
:That's what I'm here for... And it was a pretty sad attempt, truth be told. If I was a troll--which I am not, never was, never will be--I'd make something special of it, since the chance is rare, like you said. (Hopefully, we're not giving anyone any ideas. Although, my talk page and user page are rarely looked at, so there should be no problem.) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Oh, and just for the record, we actually had a similar incident of vandalism only about a week ago, when someone decided to blank portions of [[Homestar Runner]] (a similarly feeble effort, quickly reverted). So it actually hasn't been all that long. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:30, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Haha, yea, I saw that one. I think it was Jay that got him. But the block log has been pretty sparce as of late, there's only been like a dozen blocks (3 or 4 because of trolls) since NSMC. I feel kinda special to have been able to block one of the few trolls in the past while. And yeah DorianGray, you gotta watch for 'em. Take it from someone who once was one - Trolls are a sly bunch. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:34, 19 December 2005 (UTC) DorianGray's mother was a hampster, and his father smelled of elderberries!
::::Oh, yeah... That one totally slipped my mind. Shows how pathetic it truly was, yeah? And not all are such a sly bunch, yeah? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] (I use the word "yeah?" too much, don't I?)
:::::Actully, it was PFloyedPotter who did the blanking, and *ahem* ''I'' reverted it. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:57, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::Funny, that's not quite how I remember it... nor how the history of that page remembers it... {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:59, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Oh. *turns red* Then it was me who put him on the offenders list. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 22:57, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

== thanks ==
:Thanks for putting me on your fav users list. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 22:46, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
::^-^ Any time. But ''shh''! It's a secret! =P --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Ditto. :D {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:55, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
::::SHH! How do you people keep finding this? =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::I was seeing how you made the unnofficial QOTW, and saw it. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:50, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::Peekin' at the secret inner workings of my page, eh? =3 Well, that's why I have it. Speaking of my QOTW, I should make some more of those... I only have enough to last 'til, like, February. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::I'd like to take credit for having found the list minutes after it was created. Not exactly hard, though, since I ''was'' patrolling the recent changes at the time. But I decided not to mention it, since you said it was a secret. I guess not no more! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:59, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::::And I thanked you for it on the IRC chnnel, so that counts too. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:29, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

==Reverts==
I would like to help out the site. Can you tell me how a revert works? [[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]]
:Sure I can! When a page has been trolled or had a bad edit made, the simplest way to change it back is to revert it. Each page has a history of every edit made to it, see. Up at the top, you'll notice a little tab marked "history" (it's the fourth from the left, usually). Click on that and it'll bring up a page of all the edits made to that page, most recent ones on the top. Find the version you want to change it back to and click the date for that version. This will bring that version up in the window for editing. Just type "reverted" or "rv" (or "rv/v" for vandalism) ito the edit summary box beneath it and hit "save page". And that will correct the whole page! I hope that helps. If not, check out the [[Help:Contents|Help pages]] for more information. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Danke ==

Thanks for reverting my user page from that vandal. That's a first for me, getting vandalised. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:19, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Well, I certainly wasn't going to just leave it, yeah? Oddly, I've reverted several people's first trollings. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Sure, I knew you wouldn't just leave it, but I thought I'd still thank you. I suppose with my revert-happy trigger finger I'm probably getting vandals mad at me by now and it was sure someone would come after me. Great way to celebrate the new year, don't you think? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:14, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Happens all the time. If you check the Contribs of trolls who vandalise userpages, I bet most will have another edit that was reverted by the same person whose page they ruined. I know this coz it's happened to me several times. It's nice to get back in the trenches again, though, isn't it? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::That's what I'd always thought about that (I remember one vandal who wrote an obscene message about Thesmokingmonkey after he made a revert). Which I find interesting, since I'd never reverted anything by this guy. He seems to have been nothing but a troublemaker: he just want after me and [[User:Has Matt?|Has Matt?]] for no obvious reason. But I had always figured it would happen someday. And yes, it's good to be back in the trenches. I love reverting crappy edits again! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== Happy New Year! ==

I know it's a little late, I just wanted to wish you a happy new year, and may you finally beat Stinkoam 20X6! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:20, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thankies. And I'm getting pretty good at the -0 levels... I can get to somewhere 'round the middle of -0.2 (I think that's the one). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Happy also late new year! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:28, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:::And the same to you, my friend! ^-^ --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
Happy very, very, very, very, very, very, very, etc. with the verys, late New Year.{{User:LePorello/sig}} 02:15, 10 January 2006 (UTC) P. S. I'll help you with Stinkoman 20X6 if you need it. I'm just a click (cool click sound) away. (Though I'm not on the Wiki as often as I would like. Booooooo.)
::Ten days. That's ''very'' very. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:19, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Better late than never I always say. =D And my main problem with Stinkoman (aside from how small the life bar is, but that can't be helped) is that I have a slow response time. It's like, "Hey, that thing shot me. I'd better move in case it does it again." --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Drawing of Darth Katana X ==

Yo, Dorian. I was wondering if you would draw a picture of Darth Katana X for my profile. I see by your guestbook entry and your deletion of AbdiViklas' note on John Reuben that you've seen my profile. You can read up on my Sith Apprentice there, if you haven't already.

He looks like Inuyasha dressed like Darth Vader, but he's only wearing Vader's headgear. And he has a big, glowing Katana Sword. So, would you mind drawing that? Because that'd totally rock - thanks one million! {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:I'd be totally willing to give it a try, although I can't promise top quality. But I shall still try! DorianGray never backs down from a challenge, believe it! I'll get on that first chance I have. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Awesome! Thank you! Supashi-bo! {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:And now it is complete. You can see the pic on DeviantART, complete with my comments, [http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/27817918/ here]. If you want to direct link to it, it's also on [http://photobucket.com/albums/v203/andsean/?action=view&current=DarthKatanaX.jpg PhotoBucket]. Feel free to copy and resize as you see fit. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

That is so cool! Thanks so much for taking the time to draw my character. I'm-a post that on my user page. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:Oh, any time. Glad to to it. Also glad you like it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== You've won the Platypus Award!==
Yay! You've won the Platypus award! Congradgulationsingtonish! This award is really for you're help with my userpage, finding most of the Homsar quotes. Enjoy![[Image:platypusaward.jpg]]
:Ooh, many ''mahalos''. I was glad to do it. And if you need any help again in the future, don't hesitate to give me a ring. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Ha ha ha! ==

Your Quote of the Week with Homestar saying he doesn't wear Marzipan's skirts anymore was hilarious! Keep it up, man! [[User:Nintendostar_Runner|Nintendostar_Runner]]
:Yeah, I liked that one. I should get to work collecting more. I only have enough to last for February... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== lol ==
:I burst out laughing when I saw [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3Ainterview&diff=244754&oldid=244747 this]. It's just funny to think of someone gnawing their leg off all the time. [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 20:48, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
::You'd probably run out of legs awfully quickly, too. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Vandals ==

Yes, um, the Welcoming page said to welcome people no matter what. (Trust me, it's there). But, um, sorry 'bout that. I'll stop for the day. (or week, if needed) [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry]] 02:07, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:Hmm. Maybe we need to change that...? I'll bring it up at the next board meeting. =P --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:K [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry]] 03:26, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::Anyways, good luck. It's at least a good thing that you read the policies and stuff. I'm sure you'll do [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|HG HJHG HAAAALL right]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::I learn'd a new word! WoW. Cool. Also, I made another poll. [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry]] 01:07, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== MLS QOD ==

Hey DG, how'd you get the Old-School Homestar for your newest quote? {{User:LePorello/sig}} 14:39, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:I actually took a screen shot from... [[personal favorites|personal favourites]], I think. I cropped out everything but his head, and rotated, resized, and/or flipped it 'til it was layered perfectly over a normal Quote of the Week box with the current Homestar in it. And there it was: one old-school Homestar quote. However, since my editing software is now kaput, I can't do any more specialised quotes like that. Ah, well. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::What do you mean kaput? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:36, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
:::It won't load anymore. Click it, nothing happens. Also, since all PNGs are saved to open directly from that program, now if you wish to open a PNG, you have to right click and find "Open With..." and open it with something like Picture and Fax Viewer or Paint. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Verboten ==

Re: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk:A_History&curid=15714&diff=255319&oldid=255315 this edit]: Or, to put it another way, "If she could have done one thing to make absolutely sure that every single person in this school will read your interview, it was banning it!" {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:02, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, quite... =3 That one never occurs to me 'til later, though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== You won! ==

Combolations on winning the Object of the Week! You get these fine leather jackets. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:01, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, awesome. My very own these jackets. ''Mahalo.'' --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Oops ==

Well, good grief. Many apologies, DorianGray. How foolish of me; I really have no idea how that happened. Man, I need to take a wiki-vacation or something. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 22:29, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
:No problem. It was easily fixed, although I admit I did have a sudden heart palpatation when I saw it on Recent Changes. It's easy to get confused when the RC is all clogged like that. Keep on doin' your thing, man. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Thanks for understanding. My heart, too, had a bit of a shaking when I realized what I had done. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 22:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
::Wait, what did he do? Just wondering why you guys are having heart palpatations. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:49, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
:::He accidentally blocked me for a few seconds during a big flood of vandalism. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Clarifying edit summary ==

[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:InterruptorJones&curid=714&diff=265592&oldid=265588] That's the user list from the 'Tavi Wiki. I guess Jones copied that here in case old.hrwiki.org ever goes off line. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:43, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:Ahh... I figured it was something like that. Thanks for clearing that up. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Parody wiki ==

Go [http://hrwooky.wikicities.com/ here] I'll make u a sysop --{{User:The thing/sig}} 19:44, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
:No thanks, for the same reasons as [[User talk:E.L. Cool#Parody wiki|E.L. Cool]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Userboxes (and more!) ==
Yeah, DG. I ''saw'' what you did with the userbox that ''I'' added. It's OK; I found it prooty humorous. And I remember you being blocked on the 9th. I actually saw the unblockage first, and I thought, "Huh? How'd Dorian get blocked?" [[suntan|HEE HO HEE!]] Oh, and is it OK if I use your "tomorrow" quote on my page. Keep up the good work! {{User:LePorello/sig}} 16:57, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
:A) Glad you don't mind. It was a little long, and it's actually how I feel. o_o I'm gonna be twenty in 5 months exactly, and I feel ancient. 
:2) Yeah, the block was pretty freaky. I had a premonition I'd end up on that list somehow, but I don't do anything bad. So that's that, then. 
:D) Sure it's fine. =3 I love that quote. It's the procrastinator's creed. 
:Keep on tranglin'. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Weird ==
You know, just now you reverted 3 pages that I was also reverting. Weird huh? {{User:LePorello/sig}} 20:45, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
:Yep, that happens when two good users are fightin' an annoyance together. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Yeah. Hi-five, man. ''(loud clap)''{{User:LePorello/sig}} 20:49, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

== HELP!!! ==

SOMEBODY MESSED UP TAMPO'S WELCOME MESSAGE HE SENT ME!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT HAPPENED???????????????? --Not a Robot
:It was a persistent vandal around here by the name of Dr. Who. Don't worry, I fixed it. It's very hard to do permanent damage around here, especially with such vigilant users. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Hacking ==

I think someone hacked onto my compy. [[User:Some stupid idiot]] somehow came up on my watchlist, but I didn't even know it existed! Please tell me it's a problem with Mediawiki. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 20:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:Do you watch [[User:FireBird]]? Someone tried to move FireBird's page to that name, which is probably why it came up in your watchlist. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Oh, wait, I DID put his talk page under my watchlist because I was waiting fo a reply. Thanks! {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 21:00, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:::No problem. Glad to alleviate your fears. =) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Thank You Again==

Thanks for rv-ing the vandalism to my userpage. {{User:Granola/sig}} 22:52, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:You're welcome. Glad to do it. =) I mean, not, like, glad to see vandalism. Like, glad to help out the wiki any way possible. You know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Yeah, I know what you meant. It's kinda ironic, really, that Dr. Who vandalized ''my'' userpage. {{User:Granola/sig}} 22:54, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Ironic in what way? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Ironic that he would vandalize a former vandal's userpage. {{User:Granola/sig}} 22:58, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Ah, yes. Who knows, though, maybe you'll get to revert him. Then he'll be ''reverted'' by a former vandal, and that's almost poetic, I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::Then he'll revert TARDIS, the next vandal to come along. :=) {{User:Granola/sig}} 23:03, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::And so on, until it makes a cycle, and Willy on Wheels and NSMC are simultaneously reverting each other. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::Then it turns out that Willy on Wheels was Jimbo Wales all along, and NSMC was JoeyDay all along, LOL. {{User:Granola/sig}} 23:22, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::*Gasp* WHAT?! Oh, scandalous Nah, I'm just kidding. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 23:36, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I've always wondered if Willy was Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger, who left the project and turned against the idea of such a site. {{User:Granola/sig}} 23:40, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Sorry for hijacking your talkpage. {{User:Granola/sig}} 23:40, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::No, I don't mind. It's very quiet tonight. This helps. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Oh, well if it helps, this is another false alarm. {{User:Granola/sig}} 05:41, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

== Pizza ==

Did you eat pizza? --{{User:The thing/sig}} 22:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
:Not today, but I've been thinking about it an awful lot. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Why? ==

Why did you remove my picture from the halloweener page? You gotta give me some credit. I'm a full wiki member, and I don't deserve to have my image deleted. Also, if you think it's ugly, keep it to yourself. Sorry, but I don't find this very respectful.
[[User:Chess Cheese|Chess Cheese]]
:It's not relevant because tons of people do fanart of all sorts of toons all the time. That doesn't make it necessary to mention in an encyclopedic knowledge-base. It's nothing against you. Anyone's would be deleted. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

Well, this is a big slap in the face to art.
[[User:Chess Cheese|Chess Cheese]]
:Sorry, but that's how things are. Maybe you should check out our [[HRFWiki:Main Page|Fanstuff Wiki]]...? That's the creative companion to this wiki. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Squeaketycoo==
On the other hand, can we hold up just a sec on the unsqueaking? I think there ''are'' a few times when it's okay. After all, Strong Bad does call "a little yellow squeaky thing". Specifically, if he makes a ''single'' noise, like "Meh!", that isn't exactly a scream, then I think that could best be called a squeak. It's more wieldy than '''THE CHEAT:''' ''{makes a The Cheat noise}''. Also [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Best_Decemberween_Ever&curid=1024&diff=297773&oldid=297028&rcid=244845 this] seems like a good candidate for squeaking: the intent is to say he "sings along," but what the Cheat does can't really be called singing. About the best thing it can be called, then, is squeaking. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:23, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
:Well, there's pretty much nothing left to correct anyways, so I can definitely hold up for a while. =3 Fix whatever you like; I guess there ARE some times when it's okay, like you said. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Cool. I think I'll just revert a few on the basis of wieldiness. For the record, the [[HRWiki talk:Standards#Standardize "The Cheat Noises"|original crusade]] was to correct instances where people had tried to transliterate The Cheat noises into our alphabet. If you see any of that still around, a small train needs to be dropped. At least a caboose. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:28, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
:::I always look out for those. I think that's actually referred to a few entries earlier up my talk page. Along with putting words in his mouth. Always watch out for those, I do... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
==Hi, Dorian!==
Hi Dorian, I saw you wondered about my name. Well--in short--I made it up. It's basically the name I use everywhere, unless it's more formal (in which case I use the long form, Katori), or in the rare case where there's something better (like Coach Z on BHZ's forum ;)). I made it up a few years ago. Occassionally I use it in stories as well. :) Nice to meet you!! --[[User:Kato|Kato]]
:Likewise. =) I have a character named Kato, who's one of my most popular creations, is why I asked. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Awsomeness! ==

You like the same shows and games I like! =D (i.e. Kingdom Hearts, Drawn Together, Seinfeld, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Paper Mario Thousand-Year Door, the list goes on and on!) {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 05:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
:Cool-cool. =) Those are all among my favourites. Nice to meet another fan, yeah? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Yeah, I'm a PM:TTYD fan, too. Oh, and I consider it your fault that I'm now addicted to El Goonish Shive. =P - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::Hehehe. I do what I can. And you're not the first to express a similar sentiment to me. =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Countervandalism ==

[[Image:colonelhomestar.PNG|thumb|Prepare to feel the fluoride sting of the DorianGray!]]
Hey Dorian:

I wanted to let you know that you are one of the best countervandals I've ever known. Before I was a sysop, I remember how often the two of us were working together to stop a persistent vandal. Since I became a sysop, I find myself blocking vandals after being alerted by your reverts.

You've already received the Defender of the Wiki barnstar for revering NSMC, but I felt it was time for you to get a little more recognition: not for one act of countervandalism, but for a long history of defending this wiki. I'm leaving you this image to let you know you'll always be a colonel in the Homestarmy in my mind. Keep up the good fight, man. Constant vigilance! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:10, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
:And the same to you. =) I'm happy to help any way I can, and will continue to do so as long as I can. ^-^ Thanks very much for the recognition. It makes me feel special. I'm glad to be part of such a dedicated wiki, and to know such dedicated users. May you continue to great things too. =) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== You Following Me? ==

i was reading over my talk in random things, and ive gotten a lot of responses from you. thanks! now i know that other people patrol the recent changes pages:)-{{User:Homsar7/sig}}
:Oh, yeah. Lots of people do. That's pretty much how I spend my day. Checkin' the recent changes for stuffs. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Hawaii==
Since you wanted to know about Hawaii so bad I am making a Hawaiian Journal On my Talk page and Day 1 is up.{{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 23:08, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Cool. I'll definitely have to take a look. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
== Once again...==
Like the other countless vandalism reverts you've done, someone has to thank you. So I will. :) Seriously, you astound me with your amazing abilities to represent the wiki like you do. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 19:52, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:^-^ I jus' do what anyone with the best interest of the wiki at heart would do. *sweatdrop* An' I did mess up a little towards the end there, if you check the move log. Shh! Is a secret. o_o --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::LOL. Heimstern, we've got a possible vandal, and he doesn't seem stable...</useless gossip> — {{User: Seriously/sig}}
:::Nah, I jus' misread the move log entry and thought he'd moved my page, so I hit the revert. Then realised that was the entry for [[privileges]] I'd just done. So I had to re-revert it. Happens to the best of us sometimes... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Heh. I saw that error during that mess. Wasn't going to bring it up, but since you did... Well, you might be interested in [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Fhqwhgads&diff=prev&oldid=282268 this edit]. Heh. I was a little new to the rollback button at the time. :-) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Y'know, that reminds me of something Has Matt? and some others did a while ago in the sandbox...gimme a sec to find it, it's really funny. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:07, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Sandbox&oldid=251699 Here] it is. It includes sysops reverting vandalism fighters, Kilroy sailign the ocean blue, and much, much more! :P — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 21:10, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Hehehe, I remember that... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==[[Homestar Singing]]==

Thanks for the help with the formatting and writing style on that page. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:44, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

User talk:KieferSkunk

2006-05-18T19:40:55Z

Totoro: thanks for the help

== Welcome! ==
Welcome to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!'''

...

Sincerely, 
[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] and [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|the rest of the welcoming committee]] (18:46, 10 October 2005 (UTC))

== Congrats to Bubsty ==

Just wanted to leave a quick note in my own Talk congratulating Bubsty on a valiant effort to battle the trollbots we experienced earlier today. I tried to help as well, but I was only able to affect about 5 or 6 pages before the site went down completely. (Plus, I had to do actual work, too.)

So, great jorb there, Bubsty! - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 07:59, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:Thank you. And congrats on your defender of the wiki award! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 20:00, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

==Defender of the Wiki==
[[Image:defender of the wiki.jpg|thumb|The fluoride sting]]Even in the midst of the blitzkreig of trollbotting on the night of November 11, 2005, KieferSkunk had his wits about him. Along with a host of other stout-hearted users he became a first responder, reverting before the insolent foe had even completed his ill-fated career. For promptitude of the first degree, this [[HRWiki:Barnstars|barnstar]] is hereby awarded. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:21, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:I definately agree. I think you were the first one (other then me) to notice the trollbot. Congratulations!!! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 16:24, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

::Aww, thanks you guys. :) - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 17:12, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

==stinkoman 20X6==
:Nice work on the 20X6 enemies page! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:41, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
::Thanks! Did you see my edits on [[Awexome Cross]] and [[Population: Tire]] as well? :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:42, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Well... I have now! Nice goin! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:48, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== Sig-ness. ==

I realized just now that my sig looks freaky-similar to yours. I probably saw it on a talk page a while ago and decided that my sig should look something like that. I never knew it turned out so similar. Heh. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Nay, you've been here longer than I have. I modeled my sig after yours. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:26, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
::Lol. I'm seeing double! O_o --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:12, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Btw, Kiefer, the "talk" part of your sig isn't a link for me. I don't know whether it's just me, or whether something's missing there! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:45, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Is that on all pages or just this one? You can't click on a link to a page if you're already on it, as I will now demonstrate: [[User talk:KieferSkunk]]. See how it's unclickable? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 20:49, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::For any page that links to itself, the link becomes plain text. It just works out that way. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:51, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Abdi: What they said. :) Check and see if the Talk link works on other pages, like STUFF/space program. It should work from there. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:02, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Yeah yeah, wight wight. Makes sense. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:26, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

== Seriously! ==

[[User:Seriously]] ''was'' right about [[50 emails]], but I'm sure there are several places where Homestar Runner, well, reads. I like to keep only two or three examples in a fact, but it doesn't really matter. Thanks for fixing it up. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 22:04, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:No problem. :) I saw his original point, and I considered expounding on it (giving a reason as to why [[50 emails]] was significant). But like I said in the edit, that didn't excuse him being a jerk about it. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:06, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::You can't be serious! That ball was on the line! I don't believe this! (Sorry... I couldn't help it.) :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::wait....what did i do? i kinda forget....{{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:21, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
::::We were discussing [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_King_of_Town_DVD&diff=203807&oldid=203806 this edit] and a few edits before that on [[The King of Town DVD]]. I believe you got blocked for those edits. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:29, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== No thanks ==
No, I don't need a greeting. I've been Wiki-ing for nearly 2 years now. I'm fluent enough in Wiki. And no, don't give me that "You're new to HR Wiki though", because I'm really, really not.
Seriously, you people are too nice, and I don't need two hundred greeting messages every time I join another wiki. Sorry that I'm lashing out at you, but by your logic "I'm too noob to even edit correctly", so please, extend this message to the greetings parties, that they should check WHEN the user created his/her account. In fact, if you just did a quick Google search for "RPharazon", you would conviniently find my Wikipedia Profile as the first result. Thank you for your time. - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]] 00:37, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
:Heh, sorry. I try to extend the standard greeting message to all users who don't have a Talk page yet. And unless I'm missing something, I don't have a way of knowing when your account was actually created, except by looking at your Contributions page. That's why I mentioned that you'd been here for a while in the Recent Changes comment.

:Anyway, sorry to have annoyed you. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:41, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

::Wow. That guy made ''two'' main namespace edits in the course of a year; I think you were correct to welcome him. Especially since nobody ever had. I bet he's a real hit at parties, though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:00, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

:::Nobody ever welcomed me? What about [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RPharazon#Welcome Here]?
::::Wikipedia and HRWiki are two separate sites. Just because you've been around on Wikipedia for a long time doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't welcome you to HRWiki. Besides, I'm not aware that any of us are accustomed to checking other Wikis to see if a user exists there. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:28, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Also, I've nearly never made major edits because my edits are auto-set to minor. All I do on wikis is browse like a maniac, and fix any problems that so occur. I also contribute a little, add images, and fix general grammar and punctuations. I just don't use the preview button a lot. - [[User:RPharazon|RPharazon]] 02:04, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

:Whatever, dude. Most people would just say thanks for the welcome or not reply at all, instead of lashing out. Kiefer obviously knew yours was not a new account, and just wanted to say hey. Anyways, maybe we're getting off on the wrong foot here, so let's start over: Welcome to the wiki! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:16, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

::Hi RPharazon, and again, welcome to the wiki! You asked: ''Nobody ever welcomed me? What about [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RPharazon#Welcome Here]?''. I would just like to mention that we are not affilliated in any way with Wikipedia or the Wikipedia foundation in any formal way (other than we use their software suit). So, to us, a new user is a new user, and we have no way of knowing how much previous wiki experience they've had or if they have been welcomed in other wiki's before. We do our best to make sure people feel welcomed to contribute in this wiki, and if the account has been active for a while we would consider it more of an oversight that you weren't welcomed (officially) before! So please understand where we're coming from. ''<this is the part where I say "sincerely", or "crapfully yours", or "crapfully crap", or come up with some witty comment... but I won't. Nope. I won't.>'' --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:02, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Additionally, the links provided in the welcome message deal with getting accustomed not only to the MediaWiki software, which you obviously are, but far more importantly, to our standards and moduses operendis ''{I know there's a real Latin plural for those, but I'm lazy}''. Which are significantly different from Wikipedias. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:35, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

== Userpage blockquote ==

Hey, I noticed that one of your emails on your userpage is from Homestar, but SB's reflection is still there. There's a workaround to this (used in [[anything]] and on [[User:Kookykman|my userpage]]). Instead of just
<pre>
<blockquote class="email">
</pre>
You can get rid of the SB background by using
<pre>
<blockquote class="email" style="background-image:none">
</pre>
instead. Thanks! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

Thanks for the tip! I didn't really bother with changing the formats of the emails - doesn't bother me that Strong Bad appears in the background of all of them. :) Maybe eventually I'll come up with a way to put each character's image in the background. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:32, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
:Wow. I'm still seeing double? Did you know both your names have 3 K's (and obviously both begin with K)? So... cool! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:37, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

== Marzipan's Answering Machine X.0 ==

Thanks for all your help eliminating redirects! {{User:Bill/sig}} 20:07, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
[[Image:GruntWorkAward.png|center]]
:No problem! :) Happy to help - that "What Links Here" toolbox page is VERY useful. ;) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:12, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

== Reword vs. revise ==

Hey KieferSkunk. A full revision wasn't necessary on that STUFF item about the SAAB lighter, because the underlying substance of the fact didn't change. I took your version and your comments and just pasted them over the original, and I switched your vote from decline to accept at the top. Please look it over to make sure everything is shipshape. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:34, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
:Looks fine to me. Thanks. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:41, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

== Message'd! ==

I realized that, like Benol, I never gave you a random hi message, so I've decided that I'd give you one now. Hi.--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 17:46, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
:Cool! Hi back! :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:08, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

== Rreshing pages ==

Hey KieferSkunk. Happy New Year! Here's a tip on refreshing pages without having to create a new entry in the page history. Click "edit" at the top of the page you want to refresh. In the URL, replace "action=edit" with "action=purge". Press Enter. Voilà! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:54, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, cool! Thanks. :) And Happy New Year to you too! {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:58, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== Crapfully yours redirects ==

Hang on a second. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:14, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:Meh? What's going on? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:15, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think those articles should be merged. They describe different things. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:16, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:::How so? They all concern the word "Crap", just in different forms. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:19, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::::The article on Crapfully Yours describes a phenomenon outside the simple use of the word. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:21, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Okay, then. I significantly modified the Crapfully Yours section in [[Crap]] from the way it was in [[Crapfully Yours]], so I'd like to use the new code on the old page. There are also some non-signature "craps" in there that can probably be listed in "Miscellaneous "Crap"", like "Send me a little email and I'll give you a little crap", etc. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:25, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Cool. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:26, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

== Fatburger ==

Hey, there's one of those not far from my parents (who live on the ''east'' coast)! Though my family never eats there. Anyway, I can relate to the name issue; my last name is pronounced EXACTLY the way that it's spelled, but people get it wrong more often than not (it has an O and a double D; lots of people pronounce it as if it had a double O and a single D instead.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:21, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
:Fascinating! I really thought Fatburger was a Southern California exclusive! Shows what I know. I guess I should have expected it; even [[Wikipedia:In-N-Out Burger|In-N-Out]] is no longer exclusive to So Cal. We have both in Santa Barbara. Talk atcha later! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:30, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
::I kinda wish they'd get some In-N-Outs up here. They're a really good shop. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 06:54, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
:::No kidding. When I lived in the Northwest, it was one of the things I most missed about California. That and the sun. And Disneyland. And just Los Angeles itself. I love that place. But anyway, I live in So Cal again, so I'm glad of that. I'm sure I'll be visiting In-N-Out within the next few days! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:10, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I read what you guys write about "not having this", and "not having that...". Here we only have three chains of burgers: McDonalds, Burger King and Burger Ranch (a local). Other then a few small places we've got nothing else! We don't even have Mountain Dew! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:28, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::There are other burger resturaunts than Burger King?? o_O --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::Uh, yeah; and some have even ''worse'' names than burgerking. Like fatburger. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:39, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:Feel like reviving this month-and-a-half old topic with a new anecdote: My first name (Jason) was recently misspelled by a restaurant as "Jazen". WTF?!?! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:20, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::I don't even want to begin going into why it's so hard to write "Nat". Everyone assumes they've misheard and writes "Nate" or "Matt". It starts with an "N" rhymes with "cat", folks! Haven't people ever heard of Nat King Cole? Anyway, another example of first-name mangling. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:26, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::You think you have problems? Try being named Sean. No one can pronounce it (usually interpreting it as something like "seen"), and they always misspell it. I had a preschool teacher who insisted my name was spelt "Shawn". Um, even as a three years old boy, I know how to spell my own name. It's Irish, peoples. Like "Seamus". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Heh. My cousin is named "Sean" so I wouldn't have had trouble with that. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:39, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

== Kitty! ==

Is that a Chrono Trigger kitty in your sig? *huggles it* {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 02:00, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yes! :) I was thinking of replacing it with an animated version, of it walking. I used pretty much the whole set of sprites as animated icons in my program [http://www.kieferskunk.net/foxplay.htm FoxPlay] (which I am no longer supporting). {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 02:03, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== dude..... ==
Sweet new sig...much better than blue. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:18, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks! :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:20, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== some of my buses please? ==

Could you please rip the line "Hey strong bad you junmped over some of my buses" from [[mile]] for me please? --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 13:27, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:[[Media:Buses.ogg|Done and done, Nerd42!]] {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:14, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
::hey thanks man! how do you do that? (what software do you use or whatnot?) --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 17:59, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
::LOL I will never get tired of listening to that one line --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 18:00, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I use [http://www.goldwave.com Goldwave] to record the audio from my soundcard (most soundcards these days have a "What U Hear" or "WaveOut Mix" recording option that lets you record what the soundcard itself is sending to the speakers). :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:48, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== Very likely dumb question ==

I don't imagine that there are too many people out there in the world who go by 'KieferSkunk,' but are you, in fact, the same fellow with the webpage at [http://www.kieferskunk.net kieferskunk.net]? - [[User:204.155.72.129|204.155.72.129]] 00:36, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:That's me. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:49, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

==Email==

Hi there Keifer. Do you check your email? -- {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:13, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, and I replied to you this morning. Did you not get my reply? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:39, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

::Nope. Nothing there. You could try the "Email this user" wiki feature, I know that works. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:46, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
::(Or IRC) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:57, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
:::My email seemed to be kinda slow this morning, so it's possible my message didn't get out to you. It's also possible your Hotmail ate it as Spam or something - unrecognized domain, perhaps? Anyway, I'll try to catch you on IRC in a moment. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:01, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
::::(Btw, I got your reply on the 25th. Did the control of email somehow get switched over to the postal system? :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::It was just plain down, actually. It's back up now, though, and backlogged messages were being redelivered. And BTW, I have not yet received your package - hopefully it'll be in today - if not, we're outta luck. :( {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:58, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

::::::Hmmm... Picking it up tomrrow morning wouldn't work, would it? (If it came with the morning mail; I won't be around there until around 11:00ish) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Well, I have to go in to work around 9am, so if it's not there by then, I won't have it with me in my office. :/ I'll be back home tonight between 6 and 7pm, so I'll check then to see if the package has arrived and will leave a message for you here. If I do have it tonight, I'll be sure to bring it in with me to work tomorrow, and you can meet me here at my building. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:45, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Sounds good, thanks man. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:49, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Your package has arrived. I will have it with me at work tomorrow. :) See you then! {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 03:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::You two should take a snapshot together, given the rarity of face-to-face contact. (TBird can even sport the item contained in the package.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Ah, he's just grabbing a polo shirt for the Flashforward event tomorrow. I offered to help him get it because it would take too long to ship to Canada. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 03:18, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::I know. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:19, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Dot com: It's not a date. Are you jealous? :P {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:21, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Well, Kiefer is marrying a lovely woman in a couple of weeks, so I wouldn't get my hopes up. But alls I really meant is that people from an online community almost never actually see each other, and so that fact shouldn't go unobserved. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::No, I think I'd feel perfectly fine with it going unobserved. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:53, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks again for the shirt! Captcha's annoying! --TBird

== Hitchable possibilities ==
I just want to say that I hope you have a great time at your wedding. You've always been a great user. Also, I would get a gift or donate, but I'm only eleven. Both of my parents say it would be a bad idea. — {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:55, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
:It's alright - I appreciate the feedback and the sentiment. Don't worry about it. :) And thanks! {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:05, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

== Just had marriage ==
Welcome back, you scalawag! :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:(p.s. the title there is what was mistakenly put on my friend's car instead of "just married")
:: Huh. Looks like what Homestar said to Marzipan in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]]... That's what I thought when I saw this on Recent Changes. ;) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:46, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
:::Heh. I should be asleep, but I woke up just to say congrats. (If that makes any sense. I'm going back to bed now). {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 08:48, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
::::Thanks guys! We're actually still out on our honeymoon, but I've had a few moments here and there to get caught up on my Watchlist. Still haven't watched the latest SBEmail yet - will do that sometime later this week. :) But thank you for the warm welcome and the congrats and stuff - we're having a great time. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:41, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yes! Happy honeymoon! {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:43, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
::::::A little late, but congratulations! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:33, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::''{very late. sorry.}'' Colombolations! May your times be sweet {{User:Dacheatbot/sig}} 20:36, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks! :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

== In Memoriam ==

<blockquote class="tandy email" style="background-image:none; text-align:center">
In Memoriam 
 
-Don Chapman- 
 
We're gonna miss you, bro.
</blockquote>

== How come nobody talks on my talk page anymore? ==

It's cold out here! {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:39, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:Hi. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

==[[Homestar Singing]]==

Thanks for the formatting help on that page. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Thy Dungeonman 3

2006-05-18T15:30:22Z

Totoro: rv - item was accepted with original wording

{{gamenav|New Game|dman3|Thy Dungeonman|TROGDOR!}}

[[Image:thy dungeonman 3 deinterlaced.png|thumb|right|220px|Behold Thy Graphics!!]]
[[Image:Dungeonman 3 cover.PNG|thumb|Box art]]

''"No man slays dungeons quite like the Thy Dungeonman from the Thy Dungeonman computer game series. Hi-res graphics improve on the no-res graphics from the previous text-onlyventures. Get ye flask, fool!"'' - [[Videlectrix]]

'''Thy Dungeonman 3''' (also spelled '''Thy Dungeonman III''') is the second sequel in the [[Thy Dungeonman]] franchise produced by [[Videlectrix]]. The most notable feature of this sequel is the addition of graphics, with imitation low-resolution still frames accompanying each room of the game. As with the first two installments in the the Dungeonman series, the game is a text-command-controlled adventure centered around a knight named [[Thy Dungeonman (character)|Thy Dungeonman]]. However, the mission in this quest is to get [[Ye Flask]], rather than escape yon dungeon.

'''Page Title:''' Behold Thy Graphics!!

'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games Menu]] Description:''' Text and graphics! Orange adventure!

'''Date:''' April 24, 2006

==Commands==
===Main Commands===

*north or n
*south or s
*east or e
*west or w
*leave (if you're in a room where you can only go the way you came)
*look
*get
*talk
*inventory or inv
*use
*save (1-5)
*load (1-5)
*the UP arrow cycles through previous commands

'''[[Thy Dungeonman 3 Commands|See full list of commands]]''' 
'''[[Thy Dungeonman 3 Messages|See full list of responses]]'''

==Ways to Lose the Game==

*Get crushed by the spikes (not escaping from ''Thy Dungeon'' before your twelfth action).
*Going back into the room with the monk after he attempts to eat you.
*Not getting out of the cauldron fast enough.
*Getting lost in the woods (wander around without a map, going EAST will save you).
*Trying to fight the troll (KILL TROLL).
*Trying to kill the bird at the monastery (KILL BIRD).
*Trying to kill the barkeep (PUNCH, KICK, or KILL BARKEEP).
*Attempting to steal barkeep's beard (STEAL BEARD).
*Attempting to steal barkeep's drink (STEAL DRINK).
*RETIREing in Westerberg.
*Choosing the wrong Kigalonian.
*Getting the answers wrong to the Hag's questions.
*Attempting to steal the Vegetable Cart Man's Corn. (STEAL CORN).
*Eating the fake ketchup. (EAT BLOOD, DRINK KETCHUP).
*By typing HANG OUT or QUIT (the latter causing you to exit the game entirely).

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*The [[Wikipedia:Amber (color)|amber]]-only color palette is an homage to the many vintage monochrome [[Wikipedia:Computer display#History|monitors]] that were released during the 1980s. The concept is similar to the [[Tandy 400]]'s [[Wikipedia:Green screen|green-phosphor]] monitor.
*The horizonal black lines simulate an effect on some old monitors, where the [[Wikipedia:Display resolution|display resolution]] was low enough that the individual [[Wikipedia:Scanline|scanlines]] were visible.
*When you first end up in the cauldron, it says that the broth is getting "progreffively warmer." The f's are supposed to be [[Wikipedia:Long s|long s's]] (ſ), which resemble lowercase f's.

===Trivia===
*Each time a new graphic appears, it is preceded by the sound of a 5¼ floppy drive from the [[Wikipedia:Apple II family|Apple II]] family of computers. The actual sound heard in the game is produced by the drive when the computer first boots or resets, or when there is no disk in the drive.
* You can flip over its box art on the Videlectrix website to read the back, which is a first for their games. The back cover features the Videlectrix logo as well as screenshots of the town, pub, and grabbing minigame. It also has the following text.
[[Image:Dungeonman 3 cover back.PNG|thumb|300px|Back cover]]
<blockquote>'''''Behold Thy Graphics!''''' 
<big>'''O'''</big>ut of the dungeon 
and into the pile! 
Videlectrix has 
added multi - bit 
graphics to someone's favorite text adventure! 
Visit LOCATIONS, get ITEMS, and interact 
with PEOPLE-all in vivid monochrome color!
:::::::<big>'''S'''</big>hort 4-page manual! No more novels! (Thanks for all the letters!) 
It's the final confrontation between Thy 
Dungeonman and the elusive FLASK!! 
<big>'''I'''</big>nnovative FPG -first 
person getter- action! 
(actual gameplay-type 
screenshots shown!)</blockquote>
*The photos for Thy Dungeonman, the Fat Friar, the Vegetable Cart Dude, the Disgruntled Cleaner Guy and the Old Hag are named internally as "mike", "matt", "matt" again, "me" and "ryan", respectively. Presumably they are photos of [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]], [[Jonathan Howe]] and [[Ryan Sterritt]].
*The tombstone on the death screen reads "THY DEADGEONMAN".

===Remarks===
*Apparently Videlectrix has had a change of heart. When Strong Bad originally imagined Thy Dungeonman in the email [[video games]], the game scoffed "Graphics, shmaphics".
*The "[[pwd]]" command has been modified, and it now gives your location as "Wastes of Time/Dumb Games/Dungeonman 3/''{location}''".
*This is the first text adventure on the site where the command "DIE" doesn't kill you - or do anything at all.
*Although the hag's clearing is west of the thickly thuckled woods, typing NORTH or SOUTH will take you there. However, you still must type EAST to get back to the woods.
*The name of the town is Westerburg. This is ironic, seeing as you get to it by going east.

===Goofs===
*The instructions on the death screen read "Press C to '''cnntinue''' or R to restart".
*When you go to the monastery, the room description includes these sentences twice: "Upon the table is a STEIN. The exit tis back SOUTH."
*If you attempt to get ye flask a second time without putting on the glove, when it says "Perhaps ye needs something to help ye get ye flask. Ye." it doesn't say "(PRESS ENTER)" after it.

===Glitches===
*While being cooked alive in the pot, type SOUTH on the turn you die and you will die and escape at the same time.
*When the hag asks how many children you have, the scrapbook photo may not correspond with her required answer. (eg: there are four wee hags pictured, but the correct answer may be three instead.)
*In the minigame where you press Enter to try to get ye flask, simply hold Enter the entire time and you'll automatically grab the flask when your hand moves to the correct position.

=== Fixed Glitches ===
*Some hours after its release, the game began in the ''Hag's Clearing'' where you have no points yet possess the Fake Ketchup, already used.
*There was a warp portal that took you directly inside the dungeon that was accessed by typing "GO IN LOG" or "ENTER LOG" at the creepy woods; however, if you have not yet gotten the flask-grabbing glove, you will be unable to win the game. VOIPing back out from this path would cause a gateway to the dungeon to appear at the crossroads, and then at the creepy woods.
*When the game was first released, if the hag had 4 kids, then any answer you give her (including 4) would be taken as incorrect. The only way to fix this was to restart. This was fixed soon afterward.
*Also upon release, it was possible to get stuck by grabbing the stein in the monastery, then escaping the cauldron and re-entering the monastery, then pressing C to continue. This was later fixed so that you now continue from outside the monastery.
*Originally, if you typed LOOK FLOOR while holding the bone, the picture of the bone would appear.
*Originally, if you typed LOOK BONE or LOOK FLOOR in Yon Dungeon after using the bone, it would say that the bone is still on the ground. New phrases were later added in place of this.

===Inside References===
*The dungeonman is wearing the [[Horned Helmet|horned helmet]].
*The obsession with "getting a flask" has run throughout the Thy Dungeonman series. It originated with [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad's]] earliest concept of the game in [[video games]], in which "you'd just have to sit there and imagine why on Earth you can't get ye flask!"
*When flipping through the hag's scrapbook, if you see the town sign for Rottenscab, it reads "If thou lived here, thou would be home by now". This joke was also made in [[for kids]].
*When you look at the stone bridge, it will tell you that it is notorious for its knife fights. This is a reference to [[personal favorites]], where Coach Z and Pom Pom had a knife fight on a [[The Stone Bridge|Stone Bridge]].
*The "OMG!" when you get the coins from inside the log is another example of [[Internet Slang]].
*If you try to talk to the disgruntled cleaning guy inside the sandwich shoppe through the window, the text refers to him as Disgruntor the Cleaninator, an obvious reference to [[Trogdor|Trogdor the Burninator]].
*When in the town, type "Listen to music" to get the response "Sounds like the [[Peasant's Quest]] theme".
*Teleporting out of the dungeon is accompanied by the sound effect "VOIP". This sound effect was previously used in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]], the Videlectrix game [[Hallrunner]], and the Strong Bad email [[alternate universe]].
* The back of the box claiming "no more novels" refers to the previous two entries of the series. The first game's box claimed to contain a 400-page manual, while the second game's page title states that the game "Comes with 3 volume set of Thy Encyclopedias and Reference Guide!". This explains why, on the Videlectrix website, the box for Thy Dungeonman 3 is shown as being slimmer than the boxes for the first two games.
*If you look at the stein in the pub after using it, it reads "Thou'll never forget thy old sidekick, Steiny." This refers to [[Strong Badman]]'s sidekick, Stiny.
*The phrase "ugly bird" may be a reference to [[helium]], in which [[Homestar]] refers to a flying [[The Cheat]] as such.
*The phrase "Lord Round Mound" is similar to Strong Bad's description of Strong Sad as a "round mound of gray fatness" in [[rampage]].
*The phrase "shimmy all up on the dead dongrel" is another example of [[All up ons]].


===Real-World References===

*When you attempt to "take spoon" or "take knife" from the Fat, Fat Friar while you are in the cauldron, the game informs you, "Twould be like removing the sword from the stone. 'Whoso pulleth out the utensils of this meaty palm is rightwise King born of England and privy to my secret recipe for cupcakes.'" This is a reference to the legend of [[Wikipedia:King Arthur|King Arthur of Camelot]].
*The phrase "It's all about the ... who the heck is that on these coins?" is a reference to the Puff Daddy song "It's All About The Benjamins", meaning the portraits of [[Wikipedia:Benjamin Franklin|Benjamin Franklin]] on U.S. hundred-dollar bills.
*The response "I don't understand you..." is an excerpt from the song [[TMBW:Fingertips|Fingertips]] by [[They Might Be Giants]].
*The screen shown when you get the flask for the first time is a reference to the opening sequence of [[Wikipedia:Myst|Myst]], which features the silhouetted Atrus plummetting through the Star Fissure (that image of Atrus also being featured on Myst's original box art). In the Myst series, it is possible to teleport to other worlds or 'Ages' by touching items.
*The "internal or external command" error message is the message you get in the [[Wikipedia:Windows XP|Windows XP]] [[Wikipedia:Command line interface|command prompt]] if it doesn't recognize what you type.
*While musing on thoughts of her dead husband, the hag is said to be [[Wikipedia:FernGully|'ferngullying']] and [[Wikipedia:The Land Before Time|'landbeforetiming']], both references to popular early 90's animation franchises.
*The response "Ye taps the bottle and twists the cap" is a reference to the song "Tap the Bottle" by the rap group YBT (Young Black Teenagers).
* One of the possible presents that the hag might have gotten is a [[Wikipedia:Nintendo_64|Nintendo 64]] Controller (called an N64 Paddle in this game). The controller is popular for being the first in console gaming since 1982 to use the [[Wikipedia:Analog_stick|Analog stick]]. It is also popular for its rather unusual but successful three-handled design.
*Just before you begin answering the hag's questions, she says "If ye answers questions three..." This is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Monty Python and the Holy Grail|Monty Python and the Holy Grail]], in which the old man at the Bridge of Death proclaims "Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, 'ere the other side he see."
*If you answer the hag incorrectly, the game refers to her as "Hagatha Christie", a reference to crime author [[Wikipedia:Agatha Christie|Agatha Christie]].
*The error displayed when you type "Go West" when there is no west exit is a reference to the lyrics of two songs: "King of Wishful Thinking" by the band [[Wikipedia:Go West (band)|Go West]], and "Go West" by the [[Wikipedia:The Village People|Village People]].
*When you've beaten the game, the line "The sanctum begins to rattle and hum" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:U2|U2]] album "Rattle and Hum."
*If you try to pick up the log in the woods west of the crossroads, it says "Painful memories of finishing last in the World's Strongest Dungeonman contest are dredged up." This is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:World's Strongest Man|World's Strongest Man]] competition, an annual tournament which involves completing difficult strength-based challenges.
**In addition the text mentions "Magnus and Junko". Magnus is a reference to either [[Wikipedia:Magnús Ver Magnússon|Magnús Ver Magnússon]] or [[Wikipedia:Magnus Samuelsson|Magnus Samuelsson]], who were both World's Strongest Man Champions. Junko is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Jouko Ahola|Jouko Ahola]], who was another World's Strongest Man Champion.
*"Lonely Dungeon: Westerburg" is a reference to the [http://www.lonelyplanet.com Lonely Planet] series of travel guides.
*"Westerberg" is also a reference to [[Wikipedia:Paul Westerberg|Paul Westerberg]], rock songwriter and singer from the 80s punk band "The Replacements".
*If you don't escape from the cauldron in time, it says "Next time, Try Hard 2: Try Harder." This is taken from the film title ''[[Wikipedia:Die Hard 2: Die Harder|Die Hard 2: Die Harder]]''.
*The "Franken Brand stein" is a reference to the famed novel ''[[Wikipedia:Frankenstein|Frankenstein]]'' by [[Wikipedia:Mary Shelley|Mary Shelley]].
*"[[Wikipedia:The Unbearable Lightness of Being|The Unbearable Lightness of Being]]" is a novel written by Czech novelist [[Wikipedia:Milan Kundera|Milan Kundera]].
*The first picture in the hag's scrapbook sometimes reads Zork, and claims it is a "Krill-free community". [[Wikipedia:Zork|Zork]] is a long-running series of (mostly) text adventure games by [[Wikipedia:Infocom|Infocom]]. Krill was the name of the villain in the first [[Wikipedia:Zork books#The Forces of Krill|Zork book]].
**In addition, the opening sequence, which transitions from text only to graphics, is similar to the opening of the first graphical game of the Zork franchise, [[Wikipedia:Return to Zork|Return to Zork]].
*When asking to look at the barrel in front of the "sammich" shop, it replies "A very small barrel. Maybe made by a small man. A mini cooper if thou will." A [[Wikipedia:Cooper (profession)|cooper]] is a barrelmaker. A [[Wikipedia:Mini Cooper|Mini Cooper]] is a small British car.
*The ending screen is very reminiscent of the ending to the Nintendo game [[Wikipedia:Faxanadu|Faxanadu]].
*After buying corn from the veggie cart dude, he'll say one of a number of parodied slogans, such as:
**"Visualize whirled peas" parodies the common motto, "Visualize world peace," often found on bumper stickers. This parody itself has also appeared on bumper stickers.
**"Think flatly, act locally" parodies "Think globally, act locally." This refers to the popular [[Wikipedia:Flat Earth|misconception]] that everyone in the Middle Ages believed the Earth was flat, not a globe. (While most scholars knew better, we have little evidence of what unlearned common folk believed).
**"Kill your scroll" parodies "Kill your television" which is the slogan of [http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/ a movement] to get people to watch less tv.

==See Also==

*[[Thy Dungeonman 3 Walkthrough]]

==External Links==

*[[HR:dman3.html|Play Thy Dungeonman 3]]
*[[HR:thyDungeonman3.swf|Play Thy Dungeonman 3 (Flash file)]]
*[[Forum:8038|Forum thread re: "Thy Dungeonman 3"]]
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Talk:isp

2006-05-18T15:28:17Z

Totoro: /* Hold music vs. car alarm */ new page created

== YTMND ==

Is my fun fact on YTMND really unsuitable, I think it makes sense. Also should it be changed to the Wikipedia article? - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Don't think YTMND is unsuitable. Maybe put it in the Remarks section along with the Goof it's under? --[[User:Narwaffle|Narwaffle]] 10:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::I am more concerned with what to do with that link that other guy posted.

==Phone cord==
[[Image:Phone_cord.PNG|thumb|But it's not Dangeresque's phone]]
As demonstrated in the shown image, there is a goof in the phone call scene. Can someone write something about it, beacuse I have writer's block. And no, it is NOT a reference to Dangeresque. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:26, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It IS a reference to [[Disconnected Phone]]. S. What ever. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:I gotta agree, i don't think it's a goof, i think they made a reference to cordless phone on purpose, kinda like an uninteractive easter egg maybe...
::It's just a goof. It's not onscreen long enough to be noticed. TBC didn't notice that they didn't make the phone cord long enough, is all.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 11:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I aggree with Bassbone. It doesen't look like a reference. If it were it would actually look disconnected, not just a stub.

::::I think it's a reference to the cordless phone. remember on [[replacement]]?--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 14:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::I smell a vote coming. :D Democracy!

=="Or" or "For"?==
I thought Homestar said "account number for identity theft" rather than "or identity theft". Anyone else hear that? I don't want to change it in case it's just me. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 15:27, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
*I heard "or." When I first heard it, I assumed it was Homestar pulling together a few phrases that he had heard in relation to giving out personal information in order to form what he though was an intelligent sentence (but which to the rest of us is a complete non sequitur.) It makes less sense from a sentence-structure standpoint, but more sense considering that we are, after all, dealing with Homestar.
**I'd recommend putting a footnote after the word in the transcript saying that it could be either. I'd put it there myself, but I don't know how, and my search for help has been fruitless. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Pasty white whatsit? ==

Are you sure SB's saying "bottom"? I'm not sure what he's saying, but it sounds like it starts with a W and has an S in it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It sounds a bit like "whaffum", or perhaps "wawesome" (or "wassum"?). It certainly doesn't sound like "bottom" to me. --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 15:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:As I put it in the first draft of the transcript, it's "boittom" or "bwahttom". Perhaps "Bwahthom."{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 16:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Hilarity Ensues ==

I have a problem with the "Strong Bad's laughter comes from A Jorb Well Done" reference. Two instances of him simply laughing shouldn't be cross-referenced, and I don't don't think the similarity between the two was very strong. After watching the two files, they don't even sound remotely the same. If anything, his laughter would be a reference to crappy sit-coms (a la Brady Bunch) in which the final joke was seemingly gut-busting to the people onscreen so the show could end with a freeze-frame of everyone looking happy.
:But they both are using Strong Bad's insane laughter to make a joke. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::Those two instances of laughter a) come from completely different things, and b) sound absolutely nothing alike, so how on earth can the reference be that the laughter comes FROM "A Jorb Well Done"? The reference makes no sense. You would have to start cross-referencing anything that was even remotely similar if you accept this as precedent. Every time Homestar falls down? Every time Pom Pom laughs?
:::If it's not an actual reference, then it doesn't belong on this page. If it's the exact sound clip then it should go on [[Sound Effects]], though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's laughter, seriously, it happens on a reqular basis, whats next, "Hey, he's walking, lets put that in the wiki!"

Can't it be both? I'm going to have to agree with Joshua here. Both the "A Jorb Well Done" laugh and the "isp" laugh both go on for longer than usual, both get high pitched and insane, and both have a zoom up on the face. Not like his normal "Bwa ha ha" routine. Also, I agree that this is a reference to the sitcom laugh, bo only to a certain extent. If there was a laugh at the end of the Brady Bunch, and then the camera focused in on Greg Brady's face and his laugh went on for 30 seconds getting more shrill and higher pitched by the second... well, you got to admit, something's not normal with this Brady Bunch episode. - El Santo, 13:39 PST, 16 May 2006

The sitcom reference is simply refering to that in both (for example) the B.B. and in this email, the characters are reacting to something only mildly amusing in an over-the-top way in the final moments of the show. Strong Bad's laughter in this episode is over-the-top to the nth degree to drive that point home: it's not at all funny, but it's the last joke, so it's HYSTERICAL! Now go back and watch "A Jorb Well Done." Strong Bad is not being over the top. He's not being hysterical. He's just laughing hard, and since back then he was a bad guy, he laughed hardest when it was at someone else's expense. There's nothing at all extreme about that back-in-the-day laugh. He just thought it was really funny. The olden-days laugh doesn't even build up to any hysterics. It starts out that way. The two references simply don't match. They have as much in common with each other as me writing with a pencil and me coloring with a crayon.

== Hampster <nowiki>[sic]</nowiki> Dance? ==

Didn't see a Fun Stuff link, so I'll post it here. I thought the "break-dancing rodent" might be a reference to the (annoying) Internet meme, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hampster_Dance The Hampster Dance]. Both include animated gifs of a dancing rodent. I'm not positive on this one, but it's the first thing that came to mind when the rodent started not-really-break-dancing on the Lappy. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 18:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:I don't think so. The first thing that came to my mind was the little animated mouse GIF on [[Strong Bad's Website]] {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:21, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

yea id totally say thats a hampster dance reference. back in that day, hampster dance was the only thing the internet was good for anyway. [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 23:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Not so Magical ==

That "this is where the magic happens" line in the real-world references HAD to come out. That phrase has been around for decades. It did not originate with Cribs.

== Is this worth mentioning? ==

<blockquote>This is the shortest Strong Bad Email name to date, with only three letters.</blockquote>

I think it's cool, but I'm a nerd. What do you think?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 18:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Seems kind of obvious to me, anybody who would find that kind of thing interesting would probably already know. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Eh, maybe because I'm a nerd too, I don't see a problem with it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::It is also [[car|patently false]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:::Yeah, [[12:00]] doesn't have any letters, just numbers. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::: 12:00 doesn't count in my eyes (zero letters, but five characters) but yeah, didn't think of car. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::::Aw, crackles. I forgot about [[car]]. Totally my bad.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 01:06, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Wired Pom Pom? ==

Regarding the comment in Remarks about other characters have Internet access: I need some clarification for my own edification. Pom Pom can obviously check his email through his PDA, but do Palm users need to subscribe to an online service in order to do this, or is it just tacked onto the monthly bill as an add-on, as would happen with someone checking their email through their cell phone?

:It depends; normally a PDA accesses the internet by wirelessly connecting to an ISP, but some work as cell phones too. That being said, the Pom Pilot doesn't look like the phone type. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 21:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::He [[technology|doesn't]]? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I said "Pom Pilot", not "Pom Pom". I'm saying that his PDA doesn't look like the kind of PDA that functions as a phone. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== "CD-ROM Cupholder" is a real call! ==

Go to the very bottom of the page on this link:
http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_cdroms.shtml

You'll notice that the responce homestar gave about the "CD-Rom not being a cupholder" may be a real-world reference. (If for whatever reason you cannot acess the link, here is the text

'''Customer:''' "Hello, is this Tech Support?" 
'''Tech Support:''' "Yes, it is. How may I help you?" 
'''Customer:''' "The cup holder on my PC is broken and I am within my warranty period. How do I go about getting that fixed?" 
'''Tech Support:''' "I'm sorry, but did you say a cup holder?" 
'''Customer:''' "Yes, it's attached to the front of my computer." 
'''Tech Support:''' "Please excuse me if I seem a bit stumped, it's because I am. Did you receive this as part of a promotional, at a trade show? How did you get this cup holder? Does it have any trademark on it?" 
'''Customer:''' "It came with my computer, I don't know anything about a promotion. It just has '4X' on it." 
At this point the Tech Rep had to mute the caller, because he couldn't stand it. The caller had been using the load drawer of the CDROM drive as a cup holder and snapped it off the drive.
[[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
: We previously had a fact stating that that was an urban legend. Maybe it was real; maybe it wasn't. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Hey! Someone deleted it! They could've at least said why they were deleting it. If they thought it was an urban legend, they could have added "this is possibly an urban legend" or something. Jeez. I'm putting it back in, but with a mention of its urban-legendism possibility. [[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::: Just because you found a transcript of it does not make it real. There is also a transcript available of the famous "too stupid to own a computer" tech-support call. Smopes places these under the "undetermined" heading because while there may have been a grain of truth to them at one time, after being passed around for ten years, they've been embellished a lot.
:::: Someone deleted even after I mentioned the possiblity of it being an urban legend. That's like removing the Big Foot reference in Myths and Legends because it may not be true. Well, not exactly, but if it's a notorious tech support call which may or not be true, and the fact STATES that it may or not be true, there is no reason to delete it. We shouldnt be trying to decide on its truth or not, (although that should be mentioned) but whether the brothers chaps MADE THE REFERENCE. and they did. There is no reason to delete it because of it's referential nature, and if you list that it may or may not be true it should NOT be deleted. Also, please sign your posts. [[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::::: There's a simpler answer to your problems than this, and that answer can be summed up in one simple acronym: learn the magic of [[STUFF]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Whoa. I was particularly amused by that site, and by searching around I actually found another thing that's related to what Homestar says:

I work for a local ISP. Frequently we receive phone calls that go something like this:

*Customer: "Hi. Is this the Internet?"
...or...
*Customer: "Do you own the Internet?"
...or...
*Customer: "Is this 'Internet' the same as 'www' and do you own that as well?"

We would love to be able to say, just once, to these callers, "YES! We are the Internet, and we own all."

-- [[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 21:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:Strangely, this is not the first time the above site has been linked on a talk page. See [[Talk:technology#Whos that stupid?]] for arguably the prize-winning tech support story. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Guys, the CD-ROM Cupholder *is* an urban legend. There are no official records of this call actually happening. And it has been quoted in so many different forms, with the joke itself being essentially the same, that you can't really attribute it to anyone in particular. Calling it such on this page is thus appropriate. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:Of course, the fact could still be there, stating that the line references a common urban myth. [[User:64.231.120.38|64.231.120.38]] 21:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::As Kiefer said, it ''is'' a [http://www.snopes.com/humor/business/wordperf.htm legend]. Note that it [http://www.snopes.com/info/glossary.asp does not matter] whether or not it ever actually happened to be classified as a legend. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== The incredible vanishing trivia ==

Someone took out the "back of the Lappy" trivia before I could get to it (I can think of seeing it two places at least, in Animal and Part-Time Job), and I had to take out the "This is the first time we see Bub's laughing" one since he laughs with the rest at the end of Labor Day. Well, chuckles, but it's still laughing. Just an FYI.
:Like Jay said in response to a previous comment, put it in STUFF if you're not sure. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]]
::This wasn't a "is this right?" comment. I WAS sure. But people hate it when their remarks, trivia, etc are deleted without any explanation, so i explained.
:::Sorry, I misspoke. What I meant to say is that if the wiki community can't agree, it should be STUFF'd. That seems to be the case, because the fact is back up. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Datum? ==

This might be kind of obscure, or even accidental, but I had a thought that when SB says "Datum sounds good", not only is it a play off of the word (and obviously "that"), but it may be a reference to to cheesy Westerns and the such of the 40s and 50s when the Indians in such films used a dialect in which they would put "um" on the end of english words. Like for example, "He-um heap good man. Mighty brave." And other such nonsense. Did anyone else grow up watching these movies? -- [[User:Paulsint|Paulsint]]
:I never would have thought of that if you hadn't mentioned it, but now that you did, the tone of voice in which he says that line seems a little too "old-West-style Indian" to be coincidence.

::It wasn't just old-style movies; people really did (and do) put an -um (or -im) suffix on the end of words. Only verbs, though. It's a transitivity marker (iirc) that shows up in certain pidgin and creole Englishes. (I believe you'll find it, for example, in [http://tpi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tok_Pisin Tok Pisin]) I don't know, myself, if actual American Indians ever actually talked like this, but it's a common feature of pidgin Englishes, and thus something that writers of Westerns could have immediately seized upon when trying to write "native talk". [[User:67.171.71.112|67.171.71.112]] 05:21, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== speech impediment ==

Under Remarks:

''When Homestar says the word "internet" after he first answers Strong Bad's call, he speaks without his trademark speech impediment.''

MAybe it should be clarified what the word "internet" would sound like with Homestars speeech impediment... cause im not hearing too much of a difference.[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 00:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

:I would imagine it would sound like "in-tew-net" or somesuch. I hear a clear "R" sound in there.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 06:56, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:: I would imagine it would sound like "Inn-or-net" which is EXACTLY what I'm hearing.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 19:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Zzzzz... ==

I just thought I'd mention that when it cuts back to the Lappy at the end of the email, it shows 99% Complete with the text "Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..." under it. Is it at least worth mentioning? --[[User:GLO3|GLO3]]
:I'd say yes. I noticed that not in the transcript. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
I said "Zzzzz..." when I watched this. I did not find it funny.
One of the worst in a while. --[[User:Dongolev|Dongolev]] 21:30, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar has another new mouth thingy or I'm emo ==

I added [[Image:homestar_pshh]] in the early stages of this article, as well as text saying it's an unusual mouth shape for him. It's relevant, WHY THE CRAP DID SOMEONE DELETE BOTH THE FACT AND THE IMAGE? The KB really hates me, I should leave. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, this face was show already in [[Cool Things]] when Homestar says to Strong Sad " Oh, and good luck tonight"

:We have [[Talk:garage sale#Eyebrow? (DECLINED)|precedent]] in not including "new facial expressions" as fun facts... (Oh, and don't worry, they certainly weren't deleted just because you put them there... you know we all love you, Volbie.) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:40, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

::Oh ok I see now. 
::Eww, you love me. =P - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 08:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Motion blur ==

Should a connection be drawn between the quick-spin around to the back of the Lappy and the quick-drop into the basement in [[Sbemail 150?!?]]? They're both recent, it's the same motion blur effect and the same sound effect... but it's rather minor... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

eh... in my opinion its too minor and not really an interesting fact. we dont have to mention eeeeevery style similarity between cartoons.[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 21:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hold music vs. car alarm==

Possible [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Category:Homestar_Runner_running_gags Homestar Runner running gag] - Homestar voicing the sound of the hold music in this email, just as he voiced the sound of the car alarm in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. I feel like he's done it at least one other time. Thoughts? - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 18:37, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:He also does the theme from <strike>Knight Rider</strike> Night Court starring Richard Moll when you spin his buzzer (in [[car]]). And maybe when he did the "Back In Black" music intro in that one Answering Machine... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:COURT. Night COURT. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]
::Right, right... That. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::"Back in Black" is the one I was thinking of. All-time classic. Anyway, is this enough for a running gag page? I'll create it, but I figured I should get some feedback first. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 22:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::::What would you call the page, out of curiosity? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Homestar Singing? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:54, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::That would be my suggestion too. It's not perfect, but it's more concise than anything else I came up with. Homestar Sound Effects would be a decent alternative. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 00:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That was already [[Talk:Running Gags#Homestarrunner sings|suggested and declined]]. We have a full page for all the songs on [[Songs]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:39, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::That barely looks declined to me. I'd say go for it. It's a more intelligent page than something like Strong Mad Smiling. >.> - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:27, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::[[Homestar Singing]] is up. I suggest we take further discussion over to its [[Talk:Homestar Singing|talk page]]. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 15:28, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Rodent hand gesture ==

There's a lengthy comment about the rodent's hand gesture being the metal horns, but I think that's wrong. For one, metal horns are always with the fingers pointing up, and the rodent points his hands down several times. It's way more likely that it's just supposed to be a hip-hop hand gesture, completely unrelated to the horns. I can't find a good cite, though, so I haven't changed it. Any kind soul want to help out?
: Frankly, I think that the current fact is alredy too long, Clanky, too long! Wouldn't mind seeing it altered heavily... heck, wouldn't mind seeing it DELETED!!, personally. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::Agreed - he's supposed to be breakdancing, so why would he make a heavy metal gesture? - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Of course, it does say "NOT REALLY BREAK DANCING" in those large yellow letters. [[User:64.231.120.38|64.231.120.38]] 21:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== missing arm ==

I'm not sure if this should go in "goofs" or "remarks", and I'm not sure of the best way to word it, so I'll just describe my observation and let someone else put it in the article (if it's deemed worthwhile). When watching the flash file, I noticed that right after Strong Mad declares himself to be a website, when we see Bubs and Strong Bad laughing, Bubs' right arm (the one out of frame) is missing. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 22:16, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:It's neither a goof or a remark, it's a Flash artifact, and therefore non-notable. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 22:20, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, this happens nigh-universally in H*R toons when a major body part of a character is totally offscreen for an entire scene. Arms vanish, legs vanish, objects vanish, and sometimes a limb will even get duplicated. Unless something that has no excuse to be there is seen (like the right-hand Homestar's mustache in [[Senorial Day]] or some of the items that never appear on-camera in [[garage sale]]), it shouldn't be in. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::And in some of these instances, not only are they noteworthy they are actually classed as Easter eggs. The Mustached Homestar mentioned above, and the signing of the ancient fence paintings from [[myths & legends]] being two examples. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:51, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Speaking of out-of-frame stuff, I noticed that at the end, there's a small square off to the left that gets highlighted before the easter-egg "O", but it doesn't appear to do anything. Again, this is likely not something to be included in the article, but does anyone know what it is, or perhaps what it was supposed to be? - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 08:30, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Old Bubs ==

Just throwing it out there: "old man Bubs" related to "[[Fall Float Parade|old mista Bubs]]"? {{User:VolatileChemical/sig}}
:Bubs is often described as old, isn't he? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Sweet Cuppin' Rodents? ==

Is it just me, or does the song the song that plays when the breakdancing mouse appears sound a bit like the Sweet Cuppin' Cakes theme? -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 01:52, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Talk:isp

2006-05-18T00:32:02Z

Totoro: /* Hold music vs. car alarm */ one other name suggestion

== YTMND ==

Is my fun fact on YTMND really unsuitable, I think it makes sense. Also should it be changed to the Wikipedia article? - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Don't think YTMND is unsuitable. Maybe put it in the Remarks section along with the Goof it's under? --[[User:Narwaffle|Narwaffle]] 10:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::I am more concerned with what to do with that link that other guy posted.

==Phone cord==
[[Image:Phone_cord.PNG|thumb|But it's not Dangeresque's phone]]
As demonstrated in the shown image, there is a goof in the phone call scene. Can someone write something about it, beacuse I have writer's block. And no, it is NOT a reference to Dangeresque. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:26, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It IS a reference to [[Disconnected Phone]]. S. What ever. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:I gotta agree, i don't think it's a goof, i think they made a reference to cordless phone on purpose, kinda like an uninteractive easter egg maybe...
::It's just a goof. It's not onscreen long enough to be noticed. TBC didn't notice that they didn't make the phone cord long enough, is all.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 11:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I aggree with Bassbone. It doesen't look like a reference. If it were it would actually look disconnected, not just a stub.

::::I think it's a reference to the cordless phone. remember on [[replacement]]?--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 14:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::I smell a vote coming. :D Democracy!

=="Or" or "For"?==
I thought Homestar said "account number for identity theft" rather than "or identity theft". Anyone else hear that? I don't want to change it in case it's just me. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 15:27, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
*I heard "or." When I first heard it, I assumed it was Homestar pulling together a few phrases that he had heard in relation to giving out personal information in order to form what he though was an intelligent sentence (but which to the rest of us is a complete non sequitur.) It makes less sense from a sentence-structure standpoint, but more sense considering that we are, after all, dealing with Homestar.
**I'd recommend putting a footnote after the word in the transcript saying that it could be either. I'd put it there myself, but I don't know how, and my search for help has been fruitless. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Pasty white whatsit? ==

Are you sure SB's saying "bottom"? I'm not sure what he's saying, but it sounds like it starts with a W and has an S in it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It sounds a bit like "whaffum", or perhaps "wawesome" (or "wassum"?). It certainly doesn't sound like "bottom" to me. --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 15:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:As I put it in the first draft of the transcript, it's "boittom" or "bwahttom". Perhaps "Bwahthom."{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 16:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Hilarity Ensues ==

I have a problem with the "Strong Bad's laughter comes from A Jorb Well Done" reference. Two instances of him simply laughing shouldn't be cross-referenced, and I don't don't think the similarity between the two was very strong. After watching the two files, they don't even sound remotely the same. If anything, his laughter would be a reference to crappy sit-coms (a la Brady Bunch) in which the final joke was seemingly gut-busting to the people onscreen so the show could end with a freeze-frame of everyone looking happy.
:But they both are using Strong Bad's insane laughter to make a joke. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::Those two instances of laughter a) come from completely different things, and b) sound absolutely nothing alike, so how on earth can the reference be that the laughter comes FROM "A Jorb Well Done"? The reference makes no sense. You would have to start cross-referencing anything that was even remotely similar if you accept this as precedent. Every time Homestar falls down? Every time Pom Pom laughs?
:::If it's not an actual reference, then it doesn't belong on this page. If it's the exact sound clip then it should go on [[Sound Effects]], though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's laughter, seriously, it happens on a reqular basis, whats next, "Hey, he's walking, lets put that in the wiki!"

Can't it be both? I'm going to have to agree with Joshua here. Both the "A Jorb Well Done" laugh and the "isp" laugh both go on for longer than usual, both get high pitched and insane, and both have a zoom up on the face. Not like his normal "Bwa ha ha" routine. Also, I agree that this is a reference to the sitcom laugh, bo only to a certain extent. If there was a laugh at the end of the Brady Bunch, and then the camera focused in on Greg Brady's face and his laugh went on for 30 seconds getting more shrill and higher pitched by the second... well, you got to admit, something's not normal with this Brady Bunch episode. - El Santo, 13:39 PST, 16 May 2006

The sitcom reference is simply refering to that in both (for example) the B.B. and in this email, the characters are reacting to something only mildly amusing in an over-the-top way in the final moments of the show. Strong Bad's laughter in this episode is over-the-top to the nth degree to drive that point home: it's not at all funny, but it's the last joke, so it's HYSTERICAL! Now go back and watch "A Jorb Well Done." Strong Bad is not being over the top. He's not being hysterical. He's just laughing hard, and since back then he was a bad guy, he laughed hardest when it was at someone else's expense. There's nothing at all extreme about that back-in-the-day laugh. He just thought it was really funny. The olden-days laugh doesn't even build up to any hysterics. It starts out that way. The two references simply don't match. They have as much in common with each other as me writing with a pencil and me coloring with a crayon.

== Hampster <nowiki>[sic]</nowiki> Dance? ==

Didn't see a Fun Stuff link, so I'll post it here. I thought the "break-dancing rodent" might be a reference to the (annoying) Internet meme, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hampster_Dance The Hampster Dance]. Both include animated gifs of a dancing rodent. I'm not positive on this one, but it's the first thing that came to mind when the rodent started not-really-break-dancing on the Lappy. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 18:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:I don't think so. The first thing that came to my mind was the little animated mouse GIF on [[Strong Bad's Website]] {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:21, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

yea id totally say thats a hampster dance reference. back in that day, hampster dance was the only thing the internet was good for anyway. [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 23:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Not so Magical ==

That "this is where the magic happens" line in the real-world references HAD to come out. That phrase has been around for decades. It did not originate with Cribs.

== Is this worth mentioning? ==

<blockquote>This is the shortest Strong Bad Email name to date, with only three letters.</blockquote>

I think it's cool, but I'm a nerd. What do you think?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 18:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Seems kind of obvious to me, anybody who would find that kind of thing interesting would probably already know. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Eh, maybe because I'm a nerd too, I don't see a problem with it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::It is also [[car|patently false]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:::Yeah, [[12:00]] doesn't have any letters, just numbers. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::: 12:00 doesn't count in my eyes (zero letters, but five characters) but yeah, didn't think of car. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Wired Pom Pom? ==

Regarding the comment in Remarks about other characters have Internet access: I need some clarification for my own edification. Pom Pom can obviously check his email through his PDA, but do Palm users need to subscribe to an online service in order to do this, or is it just tacked onto the monthly bill as an add-on, as would happen with someone checking their email through their cell phone?

:It depends; normally a PDA accesses the internet by wirelessly connecting to an ISP, but some work as cell phones too. That being said, the Pom Pilot doesn't look like the phone type. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 21:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::He [[technology|doesn't]]? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I said "Pom Pilot", not "Pom Pom". I'm saying that his PDA doesn't look like the kind of PDA that functions as a phone. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== "CD-ROM Cupholder" is a real call! ==

Go to the very bottom of the page on this link:
http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_cdroms.shtml

You'll notice that the responce homestar gave about the "CD-Rom not being a cupholder" may be a real-world reference. (If for whatever reason you cannot acess the link, here is the text

'''Customer:''' "Hello, is this Tech Support?" 
'''Tech Support:''' "Yes, it is. How may I help you?" 
'''Customer:''' "The cup holder on my PC is broken and I am within my warranty period. How do I go about getting that fixed?" 
'''Tech Support:''' "I'm sorry, but did you say a cup holder?" 
'''Customer:''' "Yes, it's attached to the front of my computer." 
'''Tech Support:''' "Please excuse me if I seem a bit stumped, it's because I am. Did you receive this as part of a promotional, at a trade show? How did you get this cup holder? Does it have any trademark on it?" 
'''Customer:''' "It came with my computer, I don't know anything about a promotion. It just has '4X' on it." 
At this point the Tech Rep had to mute the caller, because he couldn't stand it. The caller had been using the load drawer of the CDROM drive as a cup holder and snapped it off the drive.
[[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
: We previously had a fact stating that that was an urban legend. Maybe it was real; maybe it wasn't. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Hey! Someone deleted it! They could've at least said why they were deleting it. If they thought it was an urban legend, they could have added "this is possibly an urban legend" or something. Jeez. I'm putting it back in, but with a mention of its urban-legendism possibility. [[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::: Just because you found a transcript of it does not make it real. There is also a transcript available of the famous "too stupid to own a computer" tech-support call. Smopes places these under the "undetermined" heading because while there may have been a grain of truth to them at one time, after being passed around for ten years, they've been embellished a lot.
:::: Someone deleted even after I mentioned the possiblity of it being an urban legend. That's like removing the Big Foot reference in Myths and Legends because it may not be true. Well, not exactly, but if it's a notorious tech support call which may or not be true, and the fact STATES that it may or not be true, there is no reason to delete it. We shouldnt be trying to decide on its truth or not, (although that should be mentioned) but whether the brothers chaps MADE THE REFERENCE. and they did. There is no reason to delete it because of it's referential nature, and if you list that it may or may not be true it should NOT be deleted. Also, please sign your posts. [[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::::: There's a simpler answer to your problems than this, and that answer can be summed up in one simple acronym: learn the magic of [[STUFF]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Whoa. I was particularly amused by that site, and by searching around I actually found another thing that's related to what Homestar says:

I work for a local ISP. Frequently we receive phone calls that go something like this:

*Customer: "Hi. Is this the Internet?"
...or...
*Customer: "Do you own the Internet?"
...or...
*Customer: "Is this 'Internet' the same as 'www' and do you own that as well?"

We would love to be able to say, just once, to these callers, "YES! We are the Internet, and we own all."

-- [[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 21:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:Strangely, this is not the first time the above site has been linked on a talk page. See [[Talk:technology#Whos that stupid?]] for arguably the prize-winning tech support story. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Guys, the CD-ROM Cupholder *is* an urban legend. There are no official records of this call actually happening. And it has been quoted in so many different forms, with the joke itself being essentially the same, that you can't really attribute it to anyone in particular. Calling it such on this page is thus appropriate. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:Of course, the fact could still be there, stating that the line references a common urban myth. [[User:64.231.120.38|64.231.120.38]] 21:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== The incredible vanishing trivia ==

Someone took out the "back of the Lappy" trivia before I could get to it (I can think of seeing it two places at least, in Animal and Part-Time Job), and I had to take out the "This is the first time we see Bub's laughing" one since he laughs with the rest at the end of Labor Day. Well, chuckles, but it's still laughing. Just an FYI.
:Like Jay said in response to a previous comment, put it in STUFF if you're not sure. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]]
::This wasn't a "is this right?" comment. I WAS sure. But people hate it when their remarks, trivia, etc are deleted without any explanation, so i explained.
:::Sorry, I misspoke. What I meant to say is that if the wiki community can't agree, it should be STUFF'd. That seems to be the case, because the fact is back up. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Datum? ==

This might be kind of obscure, or even accidental, but I had a thought that when SB says "Datum sounds good", not only is it a play off of the word (and obviously "that"), but it may be a reference to to cheesy Westerns and the such of the 40s and 50s when the Indians in such films used a dialect in which they would put "um" on the end of english words. Like for example, "He-um heap good man. Mighty brave." And other such nonsense. Did anyone else grow up watching these movies? -- [[User:Paulsint|Paulsint]]
:I never would have thought of that if you hadn't mentioned it, but now that you did, the tone of voice in which he says that line seems a little too "old-West-style Indian" to be coincidence.

== speech impediment ==

Under Remarks:

''When Homestar says the word "internet" after he first answers Strong Bad's call, he speaks without his trademark speech impediment.''

MAybe it should be clarified what the word "internet" would sound like with Homestars speeech impediment... cause im not hearing too much of a difference.[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 00:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

:I would imagine it would sound like "in-tew-net" or somesuch. I hear a clear "R" sound in there.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 06:56, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:: I would imagine it would sound like "Inn-or-net" which is EXACTLY what I'm hearing.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 19:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Zzzzz... ==

I just thought I'd mention that when it cuts back to the Lappy at the end of the email, it shows 99% Complete with the text "Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..." under it. Is it at least worth mentioning? --[[User:GLO3|GLO3]]
:I'd say yes. I noticed that not in the transcript. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
I said "Zzzzz..." when I watched this. I did not find it funny.
One of the worst in a while. --[[User:Dongolev|Dongolev]] 21:30, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar has another new mouth thingy or I'm emo ==

I added [[Image:homestar_pshh]] in the early stages of this article, as well as text saying it's an unusual mouth shape for him. It's relevant, WHY THE CRAP DID SOMEONE DELETE BOTH THE FACT AND THE IMAGE? The KB really hates me, I should leave. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, this face was show already in [[Cool Things]] when Homestar says to Strong Sad " Oh, and good luck tonight"

:We have [[Talk:garage sale#Eyebrow? (DECLINED)|precedent]] in not including "new facial expressions" as fun facts... (Oh, and don't worry, they certainly weren't deleted just because you put them there... you know we all love you, Volbie.) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:40, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Motion blur ==

Should a connection be drawn between the quick-spin around to the back of the Lappy and the quick-drop into the basement in [[Sbemail 150?!?]]? They're both recent, it's the same motion blur effect and the same sound effect... but it's rather minor... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

eh... in my opinion its too minor and not really an interesting fact. we dont have to mention eeeeevery style similarity between cartoons.[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 21:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hold music vs. car alarm==

Possible [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Category:Homestar_Runner_running_gags Homestar Runner running gag] - Homestar voicing the sound of the hold music in this email, just as he voiced the sound of the car alarm in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. I feel like he's done it at least one other time. Thoughts? - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 18:37, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:He also does the theme from <strike>Knight Rider</strike> Night Court starring Richard Moll when you spin his buzzer (in [[car]]). And maybe when he did the "Back In Black" music intro in that one Answering Machine... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:COURT. Night COURT. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]
::Right, right... That. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::"Back in Black" is the one I was thinking of. All-time classic. Anyway, is this enough for a running gag page? I'll create it, but I figured I should get some feedback first. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 22:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::::What would you call the page, out of curiosity? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Homestar Singing? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:54, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::That would be my suggestion too. It's not perfect, but it's more concise than anything else I came up with. Homestar Sound Effects would be a decent alternative. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 00:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Rodent hand gesture ==

There's a lengthy comment about the rodent's hand gesture being the metal horns, but I think that's wrong. For one, metal horns are always with the fingers pointing up, and the rodent points his hands down several times. It's way more likely that it's just supposed to be a hip-hop hand gesture, completely unrelated to the horns. I can't find a good cite, though, so I haven't changed it. Any kind soul want to help out?
: Frankly, I think that the current fact is alredy too long, Clanky, too long! Wouldn't mind seeing it altered heavily... heck, wouldn't mind seeing it DELETED!!, personally. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::Agreed - he's supposed to be breakdancing, so why would he make a heavy metal gesture? - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Of course, it does say "NOT REALLY BREAK DANCING" in those large yellow letters. [[User:64.231.120.38|64.231.120.38]] 21:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== missing arm ==

I'm not sure if this should go in "goofs" or "remarks", and I'm not sure of the best way to word it, so I'll just describe my observation and let someone else put it in the article (if it's deemed worthwhile). When watching the flash file, I noticed that right after Strong Mad declares himself to be a website, when we see Bubs and Strong Bad laughing, Bubs' right arm (the one out of frame) is missing. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 22:16, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:It's neither a goof or a remark, it's a Flash artifact, and therefore non-notable. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 22:20, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, this happens nigh-universally in H*R toons when a major body part of a character is totally offscreen for an entire scene. Arms vanish, legs vanish, objects vanish, and sometimes a limb will even get duplicated. Unless something that has no excuse to be there is seen (like the right-hand Homestar's mustache in [[Senorial Day]] or some of the items that never appear on-camera in [[garage sale]]), it shouldn't be in. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Talk:isp

2006-05-17T22:43:19Z

Totoro: /* Hold music vs. car alarm */ worth a new page?

== YTMND ==

Is my fun fact on YTMND really unsuitable, I think it makes sense. Also should it be changed to the Wikipedia article? - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Don't think YTMND is unsuitable. Maybe put it in the Remarks section along with the Goof it's under? --[[User:Narwaffle|Narwaffle]] 10:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::I am more concerned with what to do with that link that other guy posted.

==Phone cord==
[[Image:Phone_cord.PNG|thumb|But it's not Dangeresque's phone]]
As demonstrated in the shown image, there is a goof in the phone call scene. Can someone write something about it, beacuse I have writer's block. And no, it is NOT a reference to Dangeresque. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:26, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It IS a reference to [[Disconnected Phone]]. S. What ever. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:I gotta agree, i don't think it's a goof, i think they made a reference to cordless phone on purpose, kinda like an uninteractive easter egg maybe...
::It's just a goof. It's not onscreen long enough to be noticed. TBC didn't notice that they didn't make the phone cord long enough, is all.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 11:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I aggree with Bassbone. It doesen't look like a reference. If it were it would actually look disconnected, not just a stub.

::::I think it's a reference to the cordless phone. remember on [[replacement]]?--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 14:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::I smell a vote coming. :D Democracy!

=="Or" or "For"?==
I thought Homestar said "account number for identity theft" rather than "or identity theft". Anyone else hear that? I don't want to change it in case it's just me. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 15:27, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
*I heard "or." When I first heard it, I assumed it was Homestar pulling together a few phrases that he had heard in relation to giving out personal information in order to form what he though was an intelligent sentence (but which to the rest of us is a complete non sequitur.) It makes less sense from a sentence-structure standpoint, but more sense considering that we are, after all, dealing with Homestar.
**I'd recommend putting a footnote after the word in the transcript saying that it could be either. I'd put it there myself, but I don't know how, and my search for help has been fruitless. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Pasty white whatsit? ==

Are you sure SB's saying "bottom"? I'm not sure what he's saying, but it sounds like it starts with a W and has an S in it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It sounds a bit like "whaffum", or perhaps "wawesome" (or "wassum"?). It certainly doesn't sound like "bottom" to me. --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 15:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:As I put it in the first draft of the transcript, it's "boittom" or "bwahttom". Perhaps "Bwahthom."{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 16:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Hilarity Ensues ==

I have a problem with the "Strong Bad's laughter comes from A Jorb Well Done" reference. Two instances of him simply laughing shouldn't be cross-referenced, and I don't don't think the similarity between the two was very strong. After watching the two files, they don't even sound remotely the same. If anything, his laughter would be a reference to crappy sit-coms (a la Brady Bunch) in which the final joke was seemingly gut-busting to the people onscreen so the show could end with a freeze-frame of everyone looking happy.
:But they both are using Strong Bad's insane laughter to make a joke. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::Those two instances of laughter a) come from completely different things, and b) sound absolutely nothing alike, so how on earth can the reference be that the laughter comes FROM "A Jorb Well Done"? The reference makes no sense. You would have to start cross-referencing anything that was even remotely similar if you accept this as precedent. Every time Homestar falls down? Every time Pom Pom laughs?
:::If it's not an actual reference, then it doesn't belong on this page. If it's the exact sound clip then it should go on [[Sound Effects]], though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's laughter, seriously, it happens on a reqular basis, whats next, "Hey, he's walking, lets put that in the wiki!"

Can't it be both? I'm going to have to agree with Joshua here. Both the "A Jorb Well Done" laugh and the "isp" laugh both go on for longer than usual, both get high pitched and insane, and both have a zoom up on the face. Not like his normal "Bwa ha ha" routine. Also, I agree that this is a reference to the sitcom laugh, bo only to a certain extent. If there was a laugh at the end of the Brady Bunch, and then the camera focused in on Greg Brady's face and his laugh went on for 30 seconds getting more shrill and higher pitched by the second... well, you got to admit, something's not normal with this Brady Bunch episode. - El Santo, 13:39 PST, 16 May 2006

The sitcom reference is simply refering to that in both (for example) the B.B. and in this email, the characters are reacting to something only mildly amusing in an over-the-top way in the final moments of the show. Strong Bad's laughter in this episode is over-the-top to the nth degree to drive that point home: it's not at all funny, but it's the last joke, so it's HYSTERICAL! Now go back and watch "A Jorb Well Done." Strong Bad is not being over the top. He's not being hysterical. He's just laughing hard, and since back then he was a bad guy, he laughed hardest when it was at someone else's expense. There's nothing at all extreme about that back-in-the-day laugh. He just thought it was really funny. The olden-days laugh doesn't even build up to any hysterics. It starts out that way. The two references simply don't match. They have as much in common with each other as me writing with a pencil and me coloring with a crayon.

== Hampster <nowiki>[sic]</nowiki> Dance? ==

Didn't see a Fun Stuff link, so I'll post it here. I thought the "break-dancing rodent" might be a reference to the (annoying) Internet meme, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hampster_Dance The Hampster Dance]. Both include animated gifs of a dancing rodent. I'm not positive on this one, but it's the first thing that came to mind when the rodent started not-really-break-dancing on the Lappy. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 18:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:I don't think so. The first thing that came to my mind was the little animated mouse GIF on [[Strong Bad's Website]] {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:21, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

yea id totally say thats a hampster dance reference. back in that day, hampster dance was the only thing the internet was good for anyway. [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 23:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Not so Magical ==

That "this is where the magic happens" line in the real-world references HAD to come out. That phrase has been around for decades. It did not originate with Cribs.

== Is this worth mentioning? ==

<blockquote>This is the shortest Strong Bad Email name to date, with only three letters.</blockquote>

I think it's cool, but I'm a nerd. What do you think?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 18:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Seems kind of obvious to me, anybody who would find that kind of thing interesting would probably already know. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Eh, maybe because I'm a nerd too, I don't see a problem with it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::It is also [[car|patently false]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:::Yeah, [[12:00]] doesn't have any letters, just numbers. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::: 12:00 doesn't count in my eyes (zero letters, but five characters) but yeah, didn't think of car. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Wired Pom Pom? ==

Regarding the comment in Remarks about other characters have Internet access: I need some clarification for my own edification. Pom Pom can obviously check his email through his PDA, but do Palm users need to subscribe to an online service in order to do this, or is it just tacked onto the monthly bill as an add-on, as would happen with someone checking their email through their cell phone?

:It depends; normally a PDA accesses the internet by wirelessly connecting to an ISP, but some work as cell phones too. That being said, the Pom Pilot doesn't look like the phone type. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 21:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::He [[technology|doesn't]]? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I said "Pom Pilot", not "Pom Pom". I'm saying that his PDA doesn't look like the kind of PDA that functions as a phone. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== "CD-ROM Cupholder" is a real call! ==

Go to the very bottom of the page on this link:
http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_cdroms.shtml

You'll notice that the responce homestar gave about the "CD-Rom not being a cupholder" may be a real-world reference. (If for whatever reason you cannot acess the link, here is the text

'''Customer:''' "Hello, is this Tech Support?" 
'''Tech Support:''' "Yes, it is. How may I help you?" 
'''Customer:''' "The cup holder on my PC is broken and I am within my warranty period. How do I go about getting that fixed?" 
'''Tech Support:''' "I'm sorry, but did you say a cup holder?" 
'''Customer:''' "Yes, it's attached to the front of my computer." 
'''Tech Support:''' "Please excuse me if I seem a bit stumped, it's because I am. Did you receive this as part of a promotional, at a trade show? How did you get this cup holder? Does it have any trademark on it?" 
'''Customer:''' "It came with my computer, I don't know anything about a promotion. It just has '4X' on it." 
At this point the Tech Rep had to mute the caller, because he couldn't stand it. The caller had been using the load drawer of the CDROM drive as a cup holder and snapped it off the drive.
[[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
: We previously had a fact stating that that was an urban legend. Maybe it was real; maybe it wasn't. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Hey! Someone deleted it! They could've at least said why they were deleting it. If they thought it was an urban legend, they could have added "this is possibly an urban legend" or something. Jeez. I'm putting it back in, but with a mention of its urban-legendism possibility. [[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::: Just because you found a transcript of it does not make it real. There is also a transcript available of the famous "too stupid to own a computer" tech-support call. Smopes places these under the "undetermined" heading because while there may have been a grain of truth to them at one time, after being passed around for ten years, they've been embellished a lot.
:::: Someone deleted even after I mentioned the possiblity of it being an urban legend. That's like removing the Big Foot reference in Myths and Legends because it may not be true. Well, not exactly, but if it's a notorious tech support call which may or not be true, and the fact STATES that it may or not be true, there is no reason to delete it. We shouldnt be trying to decide on its truth or not, (although that should be mentioned) but whether the brothers chaps MADE THE REFERENCE. and they did. There is no reason to delete it because of it's referential nature, and if you list that it may or may not be true it should NOT be deleted. Also, please sign your posts. [[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::::: There's a simpler answer to your problems than this, and that answer can be summed up in one simple acronym: learn the magic of [[STUFF]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Whoa. I was particularly amused by that site, and by searching around I actually found another thing that's related to what Homestar says:

I work for a local ISP. Frequently we receive phone calls that go something like this:

*Customer: "Hi. Is this the Internet?"
...or...
*Customer: "Do you own the Internet?"
...or...
*Customer: "Is this 'Internet' the same as 'www' and do you own that as well?"

We would love to be able to say, just once, to these callers, "YES! We are the Internet, and we own all."

-- [[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 21:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:Strangely, this is not the first time the above site has been linked on a talk page. See [[Talk:technology#Whos that stupid?]] for arguably the prize-winning tech support story. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Guys, the CD-ROM Cupholder *is* an urban legend. There are no official records of this call actually happening. And it has been quoted in so many different forms, with the joke itself being essentially the same, that you can't really attribute it to anyone in particular. Calling it such on this page is thus appropriate. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:Of course, the fact could still be there, stating that the line references a common urban myth. [[User:64.231.120.38|64.231.120.38]] 21:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== The incredible vanishing trivia ==

Someone took out the "back of the Lappy" trivia before I could get to it (I can think of seeing it two places at least, in Animal and Part-Time Job), and I had to take out the "This is the first time we see Bub's laughing" one since he laughs with the rest at the end of Labor Day. Well, chuckles, but it's still laughing. Just an FYI.
:Like Jay said in response to a previous comment, put it in STUFF if you're not sure. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]]
::This wasn't a "is this right?" comment. I WAS sure. But people hate it when their remarks, trivia, etc are deleted without any explanation, so i explained.
:::Sorry, I misspoke. What I meant to say is that if the wiki community can't agree, it should be STUFF'd. That seems to be the case, because the fact is back up. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 22:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Datum? ==

This might be kind of obscure, or even accidental, but I had a thought that when SB says "Datum sounds good", not only is it a play off of the word (and obviously "that"), but it may be a reference to to cheesy Westerns and the such of the 40s and 50s when the Indians in such films used a dialect in which they would put "um" on the end of english words. Like for example, "He-um heap good man. Mighty brave." And other such nonsense. Did anyone else grow up watching these movies? -- [[User:Paulsint|Paulsint]]
:I never would have thought of that if you hadn't mentioned it, but now that you did, the tone of voice in which he says that line seems a little too "old-West-style Indian" to be coincidence.

== speech impediment ==

Under Remarks:

''When Homestar says the word "internet" after he first answers Strong Bad's call, he speaks without his trademark speech impediment.''

MAybe it should be clarified what the word "internet" would sound like with Homestars speeech impediment... cause im not hearing too much of a difference.[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 00:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

:I would imagine it would sound like "in-tew-net" or somesuch. I hear a clear "R" sound in there.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 06:56, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:: I would imagine it would sound like "Inn-or-net" which is EXACTLY what I'm hearing.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 19:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Zzzzz... ==

I just thought I'd mention that when it cuts back to the Lappy at the end of the email, it shows 99% Complete with the text "Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..." under it. Is it at least worth mentioning? --[[User:GLO3|GLO3]]
:I'd say yes. I noticed that not in the transcript. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
I said "Zzzzz..." when I watched this. I did not find it funny.
One of the worst in a while. --[[User:Dongolev|Dongolev]] 21:30, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar has another new mouth thingy or I'm emo ==

I added [[Image:homestar_pshh]] in the early stages of this article, as well as text saying it's an unusual mouth shape for him. It's relevant, WHY THE CRAP DID SOMEONE DELETE BOTH THE FACT AND THE IMAGE? The KB really hates me, I should leave. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, this face was show already in [[Cool Things]] when Homestar says to Strong Sad " Oh, and good luck tonight"

:We have [[Talk:garage sale#Eyebrow? (DECLINED)|precedent]] in not including "new facial expressions" as fun facts... (Oh, and don't worry, they certainly weren't deleted just because you put them there... you know we all love you, Volbie.) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:40, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Motion blur ==

Should a connection be drawn between the quick-spin around to the back of the Lappy and the quick-drop into the basement in [[Sbemail 150?!?]]? They're both recent, it's the same motion blur effect and the same sound effect... but it's rather minor... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

eh... in my opinion its too minor and not really an interesting fact. we dont have to mention eeeeevery style similarity between cartoons.[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 21:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hold music vs. car alarm==

Possible [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Category:Homestar_Runner_running_gags Homestar Runner running gag] - Homestar voicing the sound of the hold music in this email, just as he voiced the sound of the car alarm in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. I feel like he's done it at least one other time. Thoughts? - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 18:37, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:He also does the theme from <strike>Knight Rider</strike> Night Court starring Richard Moll when you spin his buzzer (in [[car]]). And maybe when he did the "Back In Black" music intro in that one Answering Machine... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:COURT. Night COURT. [[User:ComputerBox|Tom H]]
::Right, right... That. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::"Back in Black" is the one I was thinking of. All-time classic. Anyway, is this enough for a running gag page? I'll create it, but I figured I should get some feedback first. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 22:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Rodent hand gesture ==

There's a lengthy comment about the rodent's hand gesture being the metal horns, but I think that's wrong. For one, metal horns are always with the fingers pointing up, and the rodent points his hands down several times. It's way more likely that it's just supposed to be a hip-hop hand gesture, completely unrelated to the horns. I can't find a good cite, though, so I haven't changed it. Any kind soul want to help out?
: Frankly, I think that the current fact is alredy too long, Clanky, too long! Wouldn't mind seeing it altered heavily... heck, wouldn't mind seeing it DELETED!!, personally. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::Agreed - he's supposed to be breakdancing, so why would he make a heavy metal gesture? - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Of course, it does say "NOT REALLY BREAK DANCING" in those large yellow letters. [[User:64.231.120.38|64.231.120.38]] 21:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== missing arm ==

I'm not sure if this should go in "goofs" or "remarks", and I'm not sure of the best way to word it, so I'll just describe my observation and let someone else put it in the article (if it's deemed worthwhile). When watching the flash file, I noticed that right after Strong Mad declares himself to be a website, when we see Bubs and Strong Bad laughing, Bubs' right arm (the one out of frame) is missing. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 22:16, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:It's neither a goof or a remark, it's a Flash artifact, and therefore non-notable. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 22:20, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Talk:isp

2006-05-17T19:51:34Z

Totoro: /* Rodent hand gesture */ agreement

== YTMND ==

Is my fun fact on YTMND really unsuitable, I think it makes sense. Also should it be changed to the Wikipedia article? - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Don't think YTMND is unsuitable. Maybe put it in the Remarks section along with the Goof it's under? --[[User:Narwaffle|Narwaffle]] 10:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::I am more concerned with what to do with that link that other guy posted.

==Phone cord==
[[Image:Phone_cord.PNG|thumb|But it's not Dangeresque's phone]]
As demonstrated in the shown image, there is a goof in the phone call scene. Can someone write something about it, beacuse I have writer's block. And no, it is NOT a reference to Dangeresque. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:26, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It IS a reference to [[Disconnected Phone]]. S. What ever. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:I gotta agree, i don't think it's a goof, i think they made a reference to cordless phone on purpose, kinda like an uninteractive easter egg maybe...
::It's just a goof. It's not onscreen long enough to be noticed. TBC didn't notice that they didn't make the phone cord long enough, is all.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 11:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I aggree with Bassbone. It doesen't look like a reference. If it were it would actually look disconnected, not just a stub.

::::I think it's a reference to the cordless phone. remember on [[replacement]]?--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 14:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::I smell a vote coming. :D Democracy!

=="Or" or "For"?==
I thought Homestar said "account number for identity theft" rather than "or identity theft". Anyone else hear that? I don't want to change it in case it's just me. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 15:27, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
*I heard "or." When I first heard it, I assumed it was Homestar pulling together a few phrases that he had heard in relation to giving out personal information in order to form what he though was an intelligent sentence (but which to the rest of us is a complete non sequitur.) It makes less sense from a sentence-structure standpoint, but more sense considering that we are, after all, dealing with Homestar.

== Pasty white whatsit? ==

Are you sure SB's saying "bottom"? I'm not sure what he's saying, but it sounds like it starts with a W and has an S in it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It sounds a bit like "whaffum", or perhaps "wawesome" (or "wassum"?). It certainly doesn't sound like "bottom" to me. --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 15:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:As I put it in the first draft of the transcript, it's "boittom" or "bwahttom". Perhaps "Bwahthom."{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 16:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Hilarity Ensues ==

I have a problem with the "Strong Bad's laughter comes from A Jorb Well Done" reference. Two instances of him simply laughing shouldn't be cross-referenced, and I don't don't think the similarity between the two was very strong. After watching the two files, they don't even sound remotely the same. If anything, his laughter would be a reference to crappy sit-coms (a la Brady Bunch) in which the final joke was seemingly gut-busting to the people onscreen so the show could end with a freeze-frame of everyone looking happy.
:But they both are using Strong Bad's insane laughter to make a joke. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::Those two instances of laughter a) come from completely different things, and b) sound absolutely nothing alike, so how on earth can the reference be that the laughter comes FROM "A Jorb Well Done"? The reference makes no sense. You would have to start cross-referencing anything that was even remotely similar if you accept this as precedent. Every time Homestar falls down? Every time Pom Pom laughs?
:::If it's not an actual reference, then it doesn't belong on this page. If it's the exact sound clip then it should go on [[Sound Effects]], though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's laughter, seriously, it happens on a reqular basis, whats next, "Hey, he's walking, lets put that in the wiki!"

Can't it be both? I'm going to have to agree with Joshua here. Both the "A Jorb Well Done" laugh and the "isp" laugh both go on for longer than usual, both get high pitched and insane, and both have a zoom up on the face. Not like his normal "Bwa ha ha" routine. Also, I agree that this is a reference to the sitcom laugh, bo only to a certain extent. If there was a laugh at the end of the Brady Bunch, and then the camera focused in on Greg Brady's face and his laugh went on for 30 seconds getting more shrill and higher pitched by the second... well, you got to admit, something's not normal with this Brady Bunch episode. - El Santo, 13:39 PST, 16 May 2006

The sitcom reference is simply refering to that in both (for example) the B.B. and in this email, the characters are reacting to something only mildly amusing in an over-the-top way in the final moments of the show. Strong Bad's laughter in this episode is over-the-top to the nth degree to drive that point home: it's not at all funny, but it's the last joke, so it's HYSTERICAL! Now go back and watch "A Jorb Well Done." Strong Bad is not being over the top. He's not being hysterical. He's just laughing hard, and since back then he was a bad guy, he laughed hardest when it was at someone else's expense. There's nothing at all extreme about that back-in-the-day laugh. He just thought it was really funny. The olden-days laugh doesn't even build up to any hysterics. It starts out that way. The two references simply don't match. They have as much in common with each other as me writing with a pencil and me coloring with a crayon.

== Hampster <nowiki>[sic]</nowiki> Dance? ==

Didn't see a Fun Stuff link, so I'll post it here. I thought the "break-dancing rodent" might be a reference to the (annoying) Internet meme, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hampster_Dance The Hampster Dance]. Both include animated gifs of a dancing rodent. I'm not positive on this one, but it's the first thing that came to mind when the rodent started not-really-break-dancing on the Lappy. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 18:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:I don't think so. The first thing that came to my mind was the little animated mouse GIF on [[Strong Bad's Website]] {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:21, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

yea id totally say thats a hampster dance reference. back in that day, hampster dance was the only thing the internet was good for anyway. [[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 23:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Not so Magical ==

That "this is where the magic happens" line in the real-world references HAD to come out. That phrase has been around for decades. It did not originate with Cribs.

== Is this worth mentioning? ==

<blockquote>This is the shortest Strong Bad Email name to date, with only three letters.</blockquote>

I think it's cool, but I'm a nerd. What do you think?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 18:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Seems kind of obvious to me, anybody who would find that kind of thing interesting would probably already know. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Eh, maybe because I'm a nerd too, I don't see a problem with it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::It is also [[car|patently false]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:::Yeah, [[12:00]] doesn't have any letters, just numbers. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::: 12:00 doesn't count in my eyes (zero letters, but five characters) but yeah, didn't think of car. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:10, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Wired Pom Pom? ==

Regarding the comment in Remarks about other characters have Internet access: I need some clarification for my own edification. Pom Pom can obviously check his email through his PDA, but do Palm users need to subscribe to an online service in order to do this, or is it just tacked onto the monthly bill as an add-on, as would happen with someone checking their email through their cell phone?

:It depends; normally a PDA accesses the internet by wirelessly connecting to an ISP, but some work as cell phones too. That being said, the Pom Pilot doesn't look like the phone type. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]] 21:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::He [[technology|doesn't]]? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== "CD-ROM Cupholder" is a real call! ==

Go to the very bottom of the page on this link:
http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_cdroms.shtml

You'll notice that the responce homestar gave about the "CD-Rom not being a cupholder" may be a real-world reference. (If for whatever reason you cannot acess the link, here is the text

'''Customer:''' "Hello, is this Tech Support?" 
'''Tech Support:''' "Yes, it is. How may I help you?" 
'''Customer:''' "The cup holder on my PC is broken and I am within my warranty period. How do I go about getting that fixed?" 
'''Tech Support:''' "I'm sorry, but did you say a cup holder?" 
'''Customer:''' "Yes, it's attached to the front of my computer." 
'''Tech Support:''' "Please excuse me if I seem a bit stumped, it's because I am. Did you receive this as part of a promotional, at a trade show? How did you get this cup holder? Does it have any trademark on it?" 
'''Customer:''' "It came with my computer, I don't know anything about a promotion. It just has '4X' on it." 
At this point the Tech Rep had to mute the caller, because he couldn't stand it. The caller had been using the load drawer of the CDROM drive as a cup holder and snapped it off the drive.
[[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
: We previously had a fact stating that that was an urban legend. Maybe it was real; maybe it wasn't. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Hey! Someone deleted it! They could've at least said why they were deleting it. If they thought it was an urban legend, they could have added "this is possibly an urban legend" or something. Jeez. I'm putting it back in, but with a mention of its urban-legendism possibility. [[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::: Just because you found a transcript of it does not make it real. There is also a transcript available of the famous "too stupid to own a computer" tech-support call. Smopes places these under the "undetermined" heading because while there may have been a grain of truth to them at one time, after being passed around for ten years, they've been embellished a lot.
:::: Someone deleted even after I mentioned the possiblity of it being an urban legend. That's like removing the Big Foot reference in Myths and Legends because it may not be true. Well, not exactly, but if it's a notorious tech support call which may or not be true, and the fact STATES that it may or not be true, there is no reason to delete it. We shouldnt be trying to decide on its truth or not, (although that should be mentioned) but whether the brothers chaps MADE THE REFERENCE. and they did. There is no reason to delete it because of it's referential nature, and if you list that it may or may not be true it should NOT be deleted. Also, please sign your posts. [[User:Tommygun141|Tommygun141]] 21:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::::: There's a simpler answer to your problems than this, and that answer can be summed up in one simple acronym: learn the magic of [[STUFF]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Whoa. I was particularly amused by that site, and by searching around I actually found another thing that's related to what Homestar says:

I work for a local ISP. Frequently we receive phone calls that go something like this:

*Customer: "Hi. Is this the Internet?"
...or...
*Customer: "Do you own the Internet?"
...or...
*Customer: "Is this 'Internet' the same as 'www' and do you own that as well?"

We would love to be able to say, just once, to these callers, "YES! We are the Internet, and we own all."

-- [[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 21:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:Strangely, this is not the first time the above site has been linked on a talk page. See [[Talk:technology#Whos that stupid?]] for arguably the prize-winning tech support story. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Guys, the CD-ROM Cupholder *is* an urban legend. There are no official records of this call actually happening. And it has been quoted in so many different forms, with the joke itself being essentially the same, that you can't really attribute it to anyone in particular. Calling it such on this page is thus appropriate. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 04:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== The incredible vanishing trivia ==

Someone took out the "back of the Lappy" trivia before I could get to it (I can think of seeing it two places at least, in Animal and Part-Time Job), and I had to take out the "This is the first time we see Bub's laughing" one since he laughs with the rest at the end of Labor Day. Well, chuckles, but it's still laughing. Just an FYI.
:Like Jay said in response to a previous comment, put it in STUFF if you're not sure. -[[User:Unknownwarrior33|Unknownwarrior33]]
::This wasn't a "is this right?" comment. I WAS sure. But people hate it when their remarks, trivia, etc are deleted without any explanation, so i explained.

== Datum? ==

This might be kind of obscure, or even accidental, but I had a thought that when SB says "Datum sounds good", not only is it a play off of the word (and obviously "that"), but it may be a reference to to cheesy Westerns and the such of the 40s and 50s when the Indians in such films used a dialect in which they would put "um" on the end of english words. Like for example, "He-um heap good man. Mighty brave." And other such nonsense. Did anyone else grow up watching these movies? -- [[User:Paulsint|Paulsint]]
:I never would have thought of that if you hadn't mentioned it, but now that you did, the tone of voice in which he says that line seems a little too "old-West-style Indian" to be coincidence.

== speech impediment ==

Under Remarks:

''When Homestar says the word "internet" after he first answers Strong Bad's call, he speaks without his trademark speech impediment.''

MAybe it should be clarified what the word "internet" would sound like with Homestars speeech impediment... cause im not hearing too much of a difference.[[User:Del Taco?|Del Taco?]] 00:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

:I would imagine it would sound like "in-tew-net" or somesuch. I hear a clear "R" sound in there.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 06:56, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:: I would imagine it would sound like "Inn-or-net" which is EXACTLY what I'm hearing.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 19:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Zzzzz... ==

I just thought I'd mention that when it cuts back to the Lappy at the end of the email, it shows 99% Complete with the text "Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..." under it. Is it at least worth mentioning? --[[User:GLO3|GLO3]]
:I'd say yes. I noticed that not in the transcript. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Homestar has another new mouth thingy or I'm emo ==

I added [[Image:homestar_pshh]] in the early stages of this article, as well as text saying it's an unusual mouth shape for him. It's relevant, WHY THE CRAP DID SOMEONE DELETE BOTH THE FACT AND THE IMAGE? The KB really hates me, I should leave. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, this face was show already in [[Cool Things]] when Homestar says to Strong Sad " Oh, and good luck tonight"

:We have [[Talk:garage sale#Eyebrow? (DECLINED)|precedent]] in not including "new facial expressions" as fun facts... (Oh, and don't worry, they certainly weren't deleted just because you put them there... you know we all love you, Volbie.) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:40, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Motion blur ==

Should a connection be drawn between the quick-spin around to the back of the Lappy and the quick-drop into the basement in [[Sbemail 150?!?]]? They're both recent, it's the same motion blur effect and the same sound effect... but it's rather minor... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hold music vs. car alarm==

Possible [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Category:Homestar_Runner_running_gags Homestar Runner running gag] - Homestar voicing the sound of the hold music in this email, just as he voiced the sound of the car alarm in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. I feel like he's done it at least one other time. Thoughts? - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 18:37, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

== Rodent hand gesture ==

There's a lengthy comment about the rodent's hand gesture being the metal horns, but I think that's wrong. For one, metal horns are always with the fingers pointing up, and the rodent points his hands down several times. It's way more likely that it's just supposed to be a hip-hop hand gesture, completely unrelated to the horns. I can't find a good cite, though, so I haven't changed it. Any kind soul want to help out?
: Frankly, I think that the current fact is alredy too long, Clanky, too long! Wouldn't mind seeing it altered heavily... heck, wouldn't mind seeing it DELETED!!, personally. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
::Agreed - he's supposed to be breakdancing, so why would he make a heavy metal gesture? - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Talk:isp

2006-05-17T18:37:21Z

Totoro: Possible running gag

Talk:isp

2006-05-16T18:05:16Z

Totoro: Hampster Dance?

==Discussion==

Just starting the discussion here. Jot down whatever you think needs to go in. --[[User:Narwaffle|Narwaffle]] 09:21, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:PLZ GET EGGS,MILK? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:36, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== YTMND ==

Is my fun fact on YTMND really unsuitable, I think it makes sense. Also should it be changed to the Wikipedia article? - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:Don't think YTMND is unsuitable. Maybe put it in the Remarks section along with the Goof it's under? --[[User:Narwaffle|Narwaffle]] 10:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::I am more concerned with what to do with that link that other guy posted.

== Transcript ==

Hope I did an okay job. *whew* That was fun! Bed now. {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 10:11, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[[Image:Phone_cord.PNG|thumb|But it's not Dangeresque's phone]]
*Be nice to see hyphens for the two-word modifiers, but you can't have everything. Good job. :)

==Phone cord==

As demonstrated in the shown image, there is a goof in the phone call scene. Can someone write something about it, beacuse I have writer's block. And no, it is NOT a reference to Dangeresque. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:26, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It IS a reference to [[Disconnected Phone]]. S. What ever. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 11:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:I gotta agree, i don't think it's a goof, i think they made a reference to cordless phone on purpose, kinda like an uninteractive easter egg maybe...
::It's just a goof. It's not onscreen long enough to be noticed. TBC didn't notice that they didn't make the phone cord long enough, is all.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 11:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I aggree with Bassbone. It doesen't look like a reference. If it were it would actually look disconnected, not just a stub.

::::I think it's a reference to the cordless phone. remember on [[replacement]]?--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 14:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::I smell a vote coming. :D Democracy!

=="Or" or "For"?==
I thought Homestar said "account number for identity theft" rather than "or identity theft". Anyone else hear that? I don't want to change it in case it's just me. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 15:27, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
*I heard "or." When I first heard it, I assumed it was Homestar pulling together a few phrases that he had heard in relation to giving out personal information in order to form what he though was an intelligent sentence (but which to the rest of us is a complete non sequitur.) It makes less sense from a sentence-structure standpoint, but more sense considering that we are, after all, dealing with Homestar.

== Pasty white whatsit? ==

Are you sure SB's saying "bottom"? I'm not sure what he's saying, but it sounds like it starts with a W and has an S in it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It sounds a bit like "whaffum", or perhaps "wawesome" (or "wassum"?). It certainly doesn't sound like "bottom" to me. --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 15:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

:As I put it in the first draft of the transcript, it's "boittom" or "bwahttom". Perhaps "Bwahthom."{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 16:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

== Hilarity Ensues ==

I have a problem with the "Strong Bad's laughter comes from A Jorb Well Done" reference. Two instances of him simply laughing shouldn't be cross-referenced, and I don't don't think the similarity between the two was very strong. After watching the two files, they don't even sound remotely the same. If anything, his laughter would be a reference to crappy sit-coms (a la Brady Bunch) in which the final joke was seemingly gut-busting to the people onscreen so the show could end with a freeze-frame of everyone looking happy.
:But they both are using Strong Bad's insane laughter to make a joke. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 17:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::Those two instances of laughter a) come from completely different things, and b) sound absolutely nothing alike, so how on earth can the reference be that the laughter comes FROM "A Jorb Well Done"? The reference makes no sense. You would have to start cross-referencing anything that was even remotely similar if you accept this as precedent. Every time Homestar falls down? Every time Pom Pom laughs?

== Hampster <nowiki>[sic]</nowiki> Dance? ==

Didn't see a Fun Stuff link, so I'll post it here. I thought the "break-dancing rodent" might be a reference to the (annoying) Internet meme, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hampster_Dance The Hampster Dance]. Both include animated gifs of a dancing rodent. I'm not positive on this one, but it's the first thing that came to mind when the rodent started not-really-break-dancing on the Lappy. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 18:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

User:Totoro

2006-05-11T21:42:25Z

Totoro: updating

Just another H/R fan.

Talk:Li'l Brudder

2006-05-11T14:04:44Z

Totoro: reference to Little Brother rap artist?

==T-shirt==

Shall we add info about the New Li'l Brudder shirt?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 00:28, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:That's for the [[Store]] page.-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

==Li'l Brudder vs Little Brother?==

Anyone think the name of this character might be a reference to the retro-rap group [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE47819DD47A47020CF9E3E5384A77AF507CB53A9D94A706A58DDBC3D4A810275EA4FBB8A92ECB637E531AABE5AC20443D6D5EF57E3DE663D3BC1E7AC653E344807185438&sql=11:dxdjyl53xpsb~T1 Little Brother]? We know TBC like old-school rap, and LB are one of the leading groups in the retro-rap movement. On the flip side, "little brother" isn't exactly a unique phrase. It's probably a stretch, but knowing TBC's penchant for rap references, I thought it was worth putting out there. [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 14:04, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Thy Dungeonman 3

2006-05-11T13:49:30Z

Totoro: /* Real-World References */ added missing bullet character

{{gamenav|New Game|dman3|Thy Dungeonman|TROGDOR!}}

[[Image:thy dungeonman 3 deinterlaced.png|thumb|right|220px|Behold Thy Graphics!!]]
[[Image:Dungeonman 3 cover.PNG|thumb|Box art]]

''"No man slays dungeons quite like the Thy Dungeonman from the Thy Dungeonman computer game series. Hi-res graphics improve on the no-res graphics from the previous text-onlyventures. Get ye flask, fool!"'' - [[Videlectrix]]

'''Thy Dungeonman 3''' (also spelled '''Thy Dungeonman III''') is the second sequel in the [[Thy Dungeonman]] franchise produced by [[Videlectrix]]. The most notable feature of this sequel is the addition of graphics, with imitation low-resolution still frames accompanying each room of the game. As with the first two installments in the the Dungeonman series, the game is a text-command-controlled adventure centered around a knight named [[Thy Dungeonman (character)|Thy Dungeonman]]. However, the mission in this quest is to get [[Ye Flask]], rather than escape yon dungeon.

'''Page Title:''' Behold Thy Graphics!!

'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games Menu]] Description:''' Text and graphics! Orange adventure!

'''Date:''' April 24, 2006

==Commands==
===Main Commands===

*north or n
*south or s
*east or e
*west or w
*leave (if you're in a room where you can only go the way you came)
*look
*get
*talk
*inventory or inv
*use
*save (1-5)
*load (1-5)
*the UP arrow cycles through previous commands

'''[[Thy Dungeonman 3 Commands|See full list of commands]]''' 
'''[[Thy Dungeonman 3 Messages|See full list of responses]]'''

==Ways to Lose the Game==

*Get crushed by the spikes (not escaping from ''Thy Dungeon'' before your twelfth action).
*Going back into the room with the monk after he attempts to eat you.
*Not getting out of the cauldron fast enough.
*Getting lost in the woods (wander around without a map, going EAST will save you).
*Trying to fight the troll (KILL TROLL).
*Trying to kill the bird at the monastery (KILL BIRD).
*Trying to kill the barkeep (PUNCH, KICK, or KILL BARKEEP).
*Attempting to steal barkeep's beard (STEAL BEARD).
*Attempting to steal barkeep's drink (STEAL DRINK).
*RETIREing in Westerberg.
*Choosing the wrong Kigalonian.
*Getting the answers wrong to the Hag's questions.
*Attempting to steal the Vegetable Cart Man's Corn. (STEAL CORN).
*Eating the fake ketchup. (EAT BLOOD, DRINK KETCHUP).
*By typing HANG OUT or QUIT (the latter causing you to exit the game entirely).

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*The [[Wikipedia:Amber (color)|amber]]-only color palette is an homage to the many vintage monochrome [[Wikipedia:Computer display#History|monitors]] that were released during the 1980s. The concept is similar to the [[Tandy 400]]'s [[Wikipedia:Green screen|green-phosphor]] monitor.
*The horizonal black lines simulate an effect on some old monitors, where the [[Wikipedia:Display resolution|display resolution]] was low enough that the individual [[Wikipedia:Scanline|scanlines]] were visible.
*When you first end up in the cauldron, it says that the broth is getting "progreffively warmer." The f's are supposed to be [[Wikipedia:Long s|long s's]] (ſ), which resemble lowercase f's.

===Trivia===
*Each time a new graphic appears, it is preceded by the sound of a 5¼ floppy drive from the [[Wikipedia:Apple II family|Apple II]] family of computers. The actual sound heard in the game is produced by the drive when the computer first boots or resets, or when there is no disk in the drive.
* You can flip over its box art on the Videlectrix website to read the back, which is a first for their games. The back cover features the Videlectrix logo as well as screenshots of the town, pub, and grabbing minigame. It also has the following text.
[[Image:Dungeonman 3 cover back.PNG|thumb|300px|Back cover]]
<blockquote>'''''Behold Thy Graphics!''''' 
<big>'''O'''</big>ut of the dungeon 
and into the pile! 
Videlectrix has 
added multi - bit 
graphics to someone's favorite text adventure! 
Visit LOCATIONS, get ITEMS, and interact 
with PEOPLE-all in vivid monochrome color!
:::::::<big>'''S'''</big>hort 4-page manual! No more novels! (Thanks for all the letters!) 
It's the final confrontation between Thy 
Dungeonman and the elusive FLASK!! 
<big>'''I'''</big>nnovative FPG -first 
person getter- action! 
(actual gameplay-type 
screenshots shown!)</blockquote>
*The photos for Thy Dungeonman, the Fat Friar, the Vegetable Cart Dude, the Disgruntled Cleaner Guy and the Old Hag are named internally as "mike", "matt", "matt" again, "me" and "ryan", respectively. Presumably they are photos of [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]], [[Jonathan Howe]] and [[Ryan Sterritt]].
*The tombstone on the death screen reads "THY DEADGEONMAN".

===Remarks===
*Apparently Videlectrix has had a change of heart. When Strong Bad originally imagined Thy Dungeonman in the email [[video games]], the game scoffed "Graphics, shmaphics".
*The "[[pwd]]" command has been modified, and it now gives your location as "Wastes of Time/Dumb Games/Dungeonman 3/''{location}''".
*This is the first text adventure on the site where the command "DIE" doesn't kill you - or do anything at all.
*Although the hag's clearing is west of the thickly thuckled woods, typing NORTH or SOUTH will take you there. However, you still must type EAST to get back to the woods.
*The name of the town is Westerburg. This is ironic, seeing as you get to it by going east.

===Goofs===
*The instructions on the death screen read "Press C to '''cnntinue''' or R to restart".
*When you go to the monastery, the room description includes these sentences twice: "Upon the table is a STEIN. The exit tis back SOUTH."
*If you attempt to get ye flask a second time without putting on the glove, when it says "Perhaps ye needs something to help ye get ye flask. Ye." it doesn't say "(PRESS ENTER)" after it.

===Glitches===
*While being cooked alive in the pot, type SOUTH on the turn you die and you will die and escape at the same time.
*When the hag asks how many children you have, the scrapbook photo may not correspond with her required answer. (eg: there are four wee hags pictured, but the correct answer may be three instead.)
*In the minigame where you press Enter to try to get ye flask, simply hold Enter the entire time and you'll automatically grab the flask when your hand moves to the correct position.

=== Fixed Glitches ===
*Some hours after its release, the game began in the ''Hag's Clearing'' where you have no points yet possess the Fake Ketchup, already used.
*There was a warp portal that took you directly inside the dungeon that was accessed by typing "GO IN LOG" or "ENTER LOG" at the creepy woods; however, if you have not yet gotten the flask-grabbing glove, you will be unable to win the game. VOIPing back out from this path would cause a gateway to the dungeon to appear at the crossroads, and then at the creepy woods.
*When the game was first released, if the hag had 4 kids, then any answer you give her (including 4) would be taken as incorrect. The only way to fix this was to restart. This was fixed soon afterward.
*Also upon release, it was possible to get stuck by grabbing the stein in the monastery, then escaping the cauldron and re-entering the monastery, then pressing C to continue. This was later fixed so that you now continue from outside the monastery.
*Originally, if you typed LOOK FLOOR while holding the bone, the picture of the bone would appear.
*Originally, if you typed LOOK BONE or LOOK FLOOR in Yon Dungeon after using the bone, it would say that the bone is still on the ground. New phrases were later added in place of this.

===Inside References===
*The dungeonman is wearing the [[Horned Helmet|horned helmet]].
*The obsession with "getting a flask" has run throughout the Thy Dungeonman series. It originated with [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad's]] earliest concept of the game in [[video games]], in which "you'd just have to sit there and imagine why on Earth you can't get ye flask!"
*When flipping through the hag's scrapbook, if you see the town sign for Rottenscab, it reads "If thou lived here, thou would be home by now". This joke was also made in [[for kids]].
*When you look at the stone bridge, it will tell you that it is notorious for its knife fights. This is a reference to [[personal favorites]], where Coach Z and Pom Pom had a knife fight on a [[The Stone Bridge|Stone Bridge]].
*The "OMG!" when you get the coins from inside the log is another example of [[Internet Slang]].
*If you try to talk to the disgruntled cleaning guy inside the sandwich shoppe through the window, the text refers to him as Disgruntor the Cleaninator, an obvious reference to [[Trogdor|Trogdor the Burninator]].
*When in the town, type "Listen to music" to get the response "Sounds like the [[Peasant's Quest]] theme".
*Teleporting out of the dungeon is accompanied by the sound effect "VOIP". This sound effect was previously used in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]], the Videlectrix game [[Hallrunner]], and the Strong Bad email [[alternate universe]].
* The back of the box claiming "no more novels" refers to the previous two entries of the series. The first game's box claimed to contain a 400-page manual, while the second game's page title states that the game "Comes with 3 volume set of Thy Encyclopedias and Reference Guide!". This explains why, on the Videlectrix website, the box for Thy Dungeonman 3 is shown as being slimmer than the boxes for the first two games.
*If you look at the stein in the pub after using it, it reads "Thou'll never forget thy old sidekick, Steiny." This refers to [[Strong Badman]]'s sidekick, Stiny.
*The phrase "ugly bird" may be a reference to [[helium]], in which [[Homestar]] refers to a flying [[The Cheat]] as such.
*The phrase "Lord Round Mound" is similar to Strong Bad's description of Strong Sad as a "round mound of gray fatness" in [[rampage]].
*The phrase "shimmy all up on the dead dongrel" is another example of [[All up ons]].


===Real-World References===

*When you attempt to "take spoon" or "take knife" from the Fat, Fat Friar while you are in the cauldron, the game informs you, "Twould be like removing the sword from the stone. 'Whoso pulleth out the utensils of this meaty palm is rightwise King born of England and privy to my secret recipe for cupcakes.'" This is a reference to the legend of [[Wikipedia:King Arthur|King Arthur of Camelot]].
*The phrase "It's all about the ... who the heck is that on these coins?" is a reference to the Puff Daddy song "It's All About The Benjamins", meaning the portraits of [[Wikipedia:Benjamin Franklin|Benjamin Franklin]] on U.S. hundred-dollar bills.
*The response "I don't understand you..." is an excerpt from the song [[TMBW:Fingertips|Fingertips]] by [[They Might Be Giants]].
*The screen shown when you get the flask for the first time is a reference to the opening sequence of [[Wikipedia:Myst|Myst]], which features the silhouetted Atrus plummetting through the Star Fissure (that image of Atrus also being featured on Myst's original box art). In the Myst series, it is possible to teleport to other worlds or 'Ages' by touching items.
*The "internal or external command" error message is the message you get in the [[Wikipedia:Windows XP|Windows XP]] [[Wikipedia:Command line interface|command prompt]] if it doesn't recognize what you type.
*While musing on thoughts of her dead husband, the hag is said to be [[Wikipedia:FernGully|'ferngullying']] and [[Wikipedia:The Land Before Time|'landbeforetiming']], both references to popular early 90's animation franchises.
*The response "Ye taps the bottle and twists the cap" is a reference to the song "Tap the Bottle" by the rap group YBT (Young Black Teenagers).
* One of the possible presents that the hag might have gotten is a [[Wikipedia:Nintendo_64|Nintendo 64]] Controller (called an N64 Paddle in this game). The controller is popular for being the first in console gaming since 1982 to use the [[Wikipedia:Analog_stick|Analog stick]]. It is also popular for its rather unusual but successful three-handled design.
*Just before you begin answering the hag's questions, she says "If ye answers questions three..." This is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Monty Python and the Holy Grail|Monty Python and the Holy Grail]], in which the old man at the Bridge of Death proclaims "Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, 'ere the other side he see."
*If you answer the hag incorrectly, the game refers to her as "Hagatha Christie", a reference to crime author [[Wikipedia:Agatha Christie|Agatha Christie]].
*The error displayed when you type "Go West" when there is no west exit is a reference to the lyrics of two songs: "King of Wishful Thinking" by the band [[Wikipedia:Go West (band)|Go West]], and "Go West" by the [[Wikipedia:The Village People|Village People]].
*When you've beaten the game, the line "The sanctum begins to rattle and hum" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:U2|U2]] album "Rattle and Hum."
*If you try to pick up the log in the woods west of the crossroads, it says "Painful memories of finishing last in the World's Strongest Dungeonman contest are dredged up." This is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:World's Strongest Man|World's Strongest Man]] competition, an annual tournament which involves completing difficult strength-based challenges.
**In addition the text mentions "Magnus and Junko". Magnus is a reference to either [[Wikipedia:Magnús Ver Magnússon|Magnús Ver Magnússon]] or [[Wikipedia:Magnus Samuelsson|Magnus Samuelsson]], who were both World's Strongest Man Champions. Junko is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Jouko Ahola|Jouko Ahola]], who was another World's Strongest Man Champion.
*"Lonely Dungeon: Westerburg" is a reference to the [http://www.lonelyplanet.com Lonely Planet] series of travel guides.
*"Westerberg" is also a reference to [[Wikipedia:Paul Westerberg|Paul Westerberg]], rock songwriter and singer from the 80s punk band "The Replacements".
*If you don't escape from the cauldron in time, it says "Next time, Try Hard 2: Try Harder." This is taken from the film title ''[[Wikipedia:Die Hard 2: Die Harder|Die Hard 2: Die Harder]]''.
*The "Franken Brand stein" is a reference to the famed novel ''[[Wikipedia:Frankenstein|Frankenstein]]'' by [[Wikipedia:Mary Shelley|Mary Shelley]].
*"[[Wikipedia:The Unbearable Lightness of Being|The Unbearable Lightness of Being]]" is a novel written by Czech novelist [[Wikipedia:Milan Kundera|Milan Kundera]].
*The first picture in the hag's scrapbook sometimes reads Zork, and claims it is a "Krill-free community". [[Wikipedia:Zork|Zork]] is a long-running series of (mostly) text adventure games by [[Wikipedia:Infocom|Infocom]]. Krill was the name of the villain in the first [[Wikipedia:Zork books#The Forces of Krill|Zork book]].
**In addition, the opening sequence, which transitions from text only to graphics, is similar to the opening of the first graphical game of the Zork franchise, [[Wikipedia:Return to Zork|Return to Zork]].
*When asking to look at the barrel in front of the "sammich" shop, it replies "A very small barrel. Maybe made by a small man. A mini cooper if thou will." A [[Wikipedia:Cooper (profession)|cooper]] is a barrelmaker. A [[Wikipedia:Mini Cooper|Mini Cooper]] is a small British car.
*The ending screen is very reminiscent of the ending to the Nintendo game [[Wikipedia:Faxanadu|Faxanadu]].
*After buying corn from the veggie cart dude, he'll say one of a number of parodied slogans, such as:
**"Visualize whirled peas" parodies the common motto, "Visualize world peace," often found on bumper stickers. This parody itself has also appeared on bumper stickers.
**"Think flatly, act locally" parodies "Think globally, act locally." In the Middle Ages, people thought the earth was flat, not a globe.
**"Kill your scroll" parodies "Kill your television" which is the slogan of [http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/ a movement] to get people to watch less tv.

==See Also==

*[[Thy Dungeonman 3 Walkthrough]]

==External Links==

*[[HR:dman3.html|Play Thy Dungeonman 3]]
*[[HR:thyDungeonman3.swf|Play Thy Dungeonman 3 (Flash file)]]
*[[Forum:8038|Forum thread re: "Thy Dungeonman 3"]]
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Talk:senior prom

2006-05-07T21:28:02Z

Totoro: /* Almond paste filled sweet delight */ almond paste vs marzipan

== Is the KOT Very Own Show a reference to Butter's Own Episode on South Park ==

Just a comment about the thoughts I had before realizing it was a sbemail instead of a KOT short!
~OptimumCoder
:I don't think it was an intentional reference, as the Brothers Chaps claim they don't watch South Park, and definitely not to that episode (the fact that it's his very own episode is a little too broad), but it is remarkable similar to the infamous Terrance and Phillip episode. They were running a 2-part episode, and rather than showing the second part of it, since the airdate fell on April Fools, they showed a completely unrelated episode. I was thinking of adding this to the references. As long as it's clear that it probably isn't intentional, I think it would fit. And complaints, before I add it? [[User:Evan|Evan]]
::No, this thing is totally a parady of ''Butter's Own Episode''. The opening music is nearly an exact match. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:30, 3 May 2006 (PDT)
:::If someone could get a screenshot from Butters own Episode that would be helpful.
::::I have the episode on my compy, matter o' fact. The "Everyone Knows It's Butters!" part sounds SORTA like the KoT chime, but if the song was a little longer and described how the KoT thinks being your self is the best thing around, then MAYBE I would agree. :P I still insist that it's more like the Terrance and Phillip gag as mentioned.

::::EDIT: Hope it's okay, but I uploaded the song from the Butters episode. http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Butterssong.ogg Whaddya think? I still insist that it's a little vague. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

==Almond paste filled sweet delight==
I think Strong Bad is talking about Marzipan here... you know, the real type.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 16:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

:From Wikipedia: "Marzipan is a confectionery consisting primarily of ground almonds and sugar that derives its characteristic flavor from bitter almonds, which constitute 4% to 6% of total almond content by weight." Sounds reasonable to me. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::I like it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH... I get it now. That fact was extremely poorly worded, hence my removal of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::::So, right now the FF ends with "The comment is clearly directed at the character Marzipan." What about Coach Z and Strong Sad (and the band)? The comment ''may'' be directed only at Marzipan (and this would coincide with the reference to the confection), but I don't agree that it's clear that he's only talking to Marzipan. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::: Marzipans are very gross in my opinion. Yuckaroo— [[User:24.119.81.22|24.119.81.22]] ([[User talk:24.119.81.22|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.119.81.22|contribs]]) 22:36, 5 May 2006 (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])<noinclude>[[Category:Internal link templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

:::::::Marzipan <> almond paste. Almond paste is just almonds ground with sugar and corn syrup, but isn't cooked. Marzipan is a type of candy that usually contains almond paste plus more sugar, and it's cooked until it reaches the "firm ball" stage (244 F). The cooking gives it a smoother texture, almost like fondant. But I'd still guess that the "almond paste" bit was meant as a reference to Marzipan. | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 21:28, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== The poopsmith speaketh!? ==

Did the poopsmith really just speak in this email? The voice sounds exactly like the poopsmith's in different town, but the poopsmith is shown shrugging afterwards like that wasn't his voice. I'd like to say that he didn't, but I'm not too sure about it. What are your opinions? - Wevegottapulse

:I think it was him. Who else could it be? It sounded like he was about to lead the band into that "Oh Yeah" song from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::Reply to Trey: Totally different "Ohhh Yeah", actually. The one in this email is higher-pitched and was pretty common to hear in this kind of music. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::There's certainly enough suggestion there (that this was The Poopsmith). Might I also point out that this was done in the same voice as the "Hello!" in [[different town]].
::THEN AGAIN! That was in Strong Bad's imagination. Do we have proof that this scene was NOT in Strong Bad's imagination? Did this senior prom actually happen? If not, having The Poopsmith speak here might not be as unusual as it would be if this senior prom really did happen. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I personally think its safe to assume this email wasn't in Strong Bad's imagination. With how Strong Bad actually got The Cheat and Strong Mad to help him and all. (If it was, then we really can't trust anything that happens in H*R ever again. >.> ) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Fair enough. :) Since we can't absolutely prove it was The Poopsmith who said "Ohhh yeah!", there's a Fun Fact there that ties this occurrence together with [[different town]]. I believe that should suffice. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Everyone thought it was him, but Mr. Smith shook his head and shrugged, as if to say, "It wasn't me! I don't know who that was!"[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 19:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Did the Oh Yeah remind anyone else of the Kool-Aid Man's catchphrase? Before the Poopsmith was shown I thought that was who was speaking. Don't know if it's good enough to be a Real Life reference. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Now that you mention it, it does remind me of that! That would've been a perfect end to the email—the Kool-Aid Man busting through the concrete wall with his famous catchphrase; everyone staring at him agape as he sheepishly retreats a few moments later. With only the phrase though, it's probably a coincidence. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:40, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, it makes no sense as a reference. No one crashed through a wall. And they already had a refreshing punch available. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::If he did that, it would then become a Family Guy reference, as I've seen that exact same scene happen on Family Guy in about a brazillian animated .gifs on LiveJournal. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 18:06, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

There's no solid proof that it was the Poopsmith.
:Yes, that has been pointed out. Nobody is claiming that it definitely ''was'' the Poopsmith in this case. We're acknowledging that it was "very strongly suggested", but the whole point of the joke is that we didn't see it happen. So there's still some ambiguity there. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::It could have easily been The Knight or The Blacksmith. We've never heard ''them'' speak! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:49, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps the voice was ventriloquism performed by David Coppafeel. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Even if he did speak, why really care? It's just a goofy site, and it was probably just a joke that didn't mean anything -Guest

:If you don't care, then why bother to post in this thread? But take a look around the wiki. You'll see we care about a great deal of minutia. It's actually quite fascinating, once you get the hang of it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== More than two prom...blems? ==

Current Fun Fact:

*Marzipan's comment "...every freakin' year...." implies that she has attended the senior prom more than once. Because it is typically the final dance in high school, most people only attend the senior prom once.

I edited this from another version that said "it seems implausible that she would have attended it more than once". I beg to differ: There are a few reasons why she could have. (1) She could have gotten held back and repeated <s>the third grade</s> her senior year multiple times. (2) She could have gone with Homestar in previous years (and he'd probably be more likely to get held back). And (3) She could have served some other purpose in previous years.

My point is, I don't think we have enough to go on to say why she'd be at the prom multiple years. But a lot of cartoons and comics run on the implication that the characters never age, and they repeat the same years of their lives each year (a 365-day version of Groundhog Day, or something). That seems plausible in the HR Universe as well. Thus, I think the Fun Fact should kinda gloss over the "implausibilities" and relate Marzipan's comment to the way it is in real life.

[[the show|And for the block, do you agree?]] {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
: I agree. Also, Marzipan could have simply ''heard'' that pantless-Strong Bad won Prom Queen multiple years in a row or whatever happened. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

It makes more sense to me that they just all go to a senior prom every year. [[User:130.127.84.204|130.127.84.204]] 18:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't Marzipan's initial " as always, we're the only couple at the prom" comment lend further credence to the whole multiple prom hypothesis? [[User:85.65.116.80|85.65.116.80]] 00:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

The thing is some schools let any students go to the prom. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:33, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

Another possibility is that, like in many cartoons, none of the characters age. This would allow for a senior prom every year. Also note that in many of the same cartoons (or comic strips), they can have "flashbacks" to x number of years ago, despite the fact that in reality they were the same age in that year as they are now. [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 03:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Everybody everybody! Longest pants! ==

I would suggest that there definitely needs to be a reference regarding the ongoing pants/no-pants debate regarding Coach Z and Homestar. This seems to put the nail in the coffin that there are, in fact, no pants going on with either of them. Although (he realizes) it could also be argued that Coach Z wears a body suit, which doesn't technically have any stand-alone pants, which still leaves the door open for his "green-body/green body suit" ambiguity. (PS: Stand Alone Pants would be a great name for a rock band.)
:There's a reference to [[Homestar's Pants]] already on the page. That's where the debate is most fully explained. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::Whether or not this is proof Homestar doesn't wear pants should be put up for a vote me thinks. The obvious argument for would be the fact that his pants didn't poof away at all and his discussion with pompom during the easteregg seemed to imply he was covering. The arguments against could be that Strong Bads remote malfunctioned, or perhaps Homestar wears pants that look exactly like his legs!

:::I like the "Maybe Homestar's pants look exactly like his legs" line of thinking. Another thought on Coach Z: how can one reliably say that he "puked his pants" and then have no pants disappear? On a personal note, two years ago, before finding this site, I never thought I would be this concerned about the existence of a cartoon character's pants.

::::For general [[Pants]], see [[Pants]]. (Would General Pants be a good name for a Cheat Commando?) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:18, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Better than "Firebert."
:::::Well, the fact that we didn't hear a poof or see a poof is enough evedince for me that Homestar is pantsless and not a long pants man.

::::::Right, it seems like Homestar is the only one around who seems convinced that he wears pants. Coach Z is still a bit of an issue, in my mind. As far as the [[Pants]] page is concerned, that's less an informational resource on the evidence for and against the various characters' pantsitudinal condition and more of a link to all the cartoons where someone simply mentions the word "pants." Since this is such a long-standing gag, it would be nice to see it expanded.

:::::::Every time recently that Homestar's pants have been mentioned, TBC present both sides, first suggesting one thing and then the other. (The same is true for Homestar's arms.) It is ''intentionally'' ambiguous. I wouldn't be surprised if TBC didn't even know the true nature of things. He's drawn that way just because it looks right to them. Trying to assert that he actually does or doesn't have pants (or, sheesh, ''voting here'' on the matter) would be futile. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::::::::Of course it's intentionally ambiguous. That's not in dispute. The location of Springfield on The Simpsons is intentionally ambiguous as well, not meant to have an actual answer, but it's still entertaining to look at a single body of evidence regarding all the clues to its location. Considering all the "pants/no pants" and even "arms/no arms" clues TBC have sprinkled throughout the life of this gag, am I the only one that would find it an entertaining resource to have all the data in one place?

:::::::::That's why we have articles like [[Homestar's Pants]] and [[Pants]]. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::: more pants!!!!{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:38, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thank Goodness! ==

I'ma just glad Strong Bad wore undawears this day. Thank you, thank you. Back to where I was! {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 18:30, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. I actually didn't realise that Strong Bad was the only one in the group that wears pants until now. Maybe Bubs too, but he wasn't in the shot. I can't imagine how Bubs would look pantsless.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 18:39, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
: There's something I'd prefer not to think about... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::i blame this problem quite squarely on tight pants. yep, tight pants. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::''{shudders at the thought of Pantless Strong Bad or Pantless Bubs. They're not exactly Ms. America, are they?}'' {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hey, ummm, everybody?==

This wasn't really the senior prom. It all happens in the present, and evrybody was probably preforming for Strong Bad's little idea thing.
:See Joshua's comment above, about whether it was in SB's imagination or not. If it wasn't a canonical occurence, then we really can't trust anything that happens on H*R.com again. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::Further more, why would everyone play this out for Strong Bad. Obviously, Marzipan wouldn't do anything for Strong Bad
:::She played Cutesy Buttons. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

:::Obviously they're playing their roles in 'Strong Bads Quite popular cartoon show' which is why he threw together that over-the-top opening scene with the "answering machine"
::::My two theories:
::::1. This is their SENIOR year and they did a large amount of growing up from whenever highschool took place.
::::2. The highschool e-mail was the fake thing (as said, doodle memory) and this is real. High School Strong Bad WAS in another universe, although so were Old-Timey, Stinkoman and Storybook Strong Bad, who we know take place in different parts of time. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

== All the Kingsmen ==

I know the band's name All the King's Men is more than likely a reference to the nursery rhyme Humpty Dumpty (which remarkably isn't in RWR). But it could also be a reference to the rock band "The Kingsmen", famous for their cover of "Louie Louie". [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 20:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
*It sounds plausible to me - sort of like Before and After Puzzles on Wheel of Fortune. It would fit the situation, since that seems to be the cover band type. Do I detect a double meaning? {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 20:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Delilelia, you got me on my knees ==

What is up with the "Delilelia" easter egg? -[[User:Shnizzedy|Johnny Baby]] 20:58, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:Since we missed the beginning of the email, that part's recapping what we missed. So we still have an email song and all that. {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 21:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::About that, is this the first SBEMAIL to feature the email song at the end??? {{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 11:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I think so, but only because it was the first time we missed the song at the start. And it's [[morning routine|not the first time]] that the song has been sung somewhere other than the very start. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Jumping the Shark ==

Anyone else think that the way SB pronounced "Copperfield" was...ahem...risque?
Alex H.
:That was Marzipan, and someone says that ''every single frikking time'' someone in the 'toons mentions something even remotely sexual. People said the same thing when Strong Bad mentioned naked women in [[secret identity]], for instance. And it's no worse than [[3 Times Halloween Funjob|somebody a-gwabbin' Homestar's butt]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::I'd like to see "Jumping the Shark" make its permanent home on the forums, personally. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:51, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I'd be willing to make a complainery type topic about this, if someone else would help find all the refs ([[Commandos in the Classroom]] comes to mind, but I dunno what else). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Astro-Sad ==

Would this be an inside refrence that Strong Sad was dressed as an astronaut in the sketch book?

:No, he was dressed as an astronaut because that was the prom theme. Everybody else was either too cool or too stupid to dress up though. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::I do think it's significant that Strong Sadonaut appeared in the Sketchbook prior to this cartoon, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Boxers or Briefs ==

The fun fact about SB saying he never wears underwear could still be true...some people consider "underwear" to mean briefs, but boxers as something else.

== Little Robot On Mars ==

Is that a refference to the "explorer" or whatever the heck that Mars Rover is called? You know the one we sent to mars to take pictures of the surface and its all the time getting stuck on rocks and crap?
: We're one step ahead of you: check Real-World References on the main page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== David Copperfield ==

It seems more likely that the reference to ''David Copperfield'' is from the [http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copperfield_%28novel%29 very famous book] by Dickens than the illusionist. Certainly, the latter probably takes his name from the former (though it could be a coincidence) so unless there is a specific reason why it would be the illusionist over the book, it seems like the reference should be cataloged as being to the book and not the person (or, at least, both the book and the person). --[[User:Sailor titan|Sailor titan]] 06:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:While I agree that the book is more famous than the illusionist, I'd imagine it would be hard for Strong Bad to take Delilelia to see [[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (novel)|David Copperfield the novel]] perform. [[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (illusionist)|David Copperfield the illusionist]] is more of a performer. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:43, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Old Folks Cafeteria ==

Could the "All You Can Eat Old Folks' Cafeteria" refer to Hometown Buffet or some similar establishment? {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Clearly it does - so clearly, in fact, that it's the joke and needs no comment. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::Apparently not as clearly as you think--because I have no idea what you're talking about ^^;;; what is the "Hometown Buffet"? Mayhaps this is some kind of regional custom/establishment that we don't have here in the northeast? --[[User:Sailor titan|Sailor titan]] 16:12, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Granny's Buffet is a more national chain, or Old Country Buffet, but the poin is that anyone can tell the kind of place he means, and that's the joke. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 20:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== KOT's Cartoon Show ==
Was anyone else disappointed when the KOTs cartoon show was interrupted for the Strong Bad e-mail? I was like "Hey a KOT cartoon? YES! There hasn't been one since 'The King of Town DVD'" Then I was like "awwwwe man!" when it was interrupted. I had high hopes, I always like to see the so-called reject characters (KOT, Strong Sad, Homsar) get together once in awhile. Though don't get me wrong I had worries E-mail #150 would be the last. Worries which were finally put to rest. Thank god.
:I was as well. Personally, I think the KOT is always consistently funny -- "Butter-da" and "stuffinged ham" still cracks me up -- and I went through the same emotional cycle as thee. "Cool! Aww..." And since I didn't think this was a particularly strong SBemail, it made for a double dose of disappointment. It's a shame the KOT keeps getting dumped on as being unpopular. He's got a hell of a lot more humor potential than the Poopsmith.
::I was a bit disappointed at first, but the fun of a good Marzipan appearance made up for it. She's been absent-ish lately, but today she got a major role and a neat new hairstyle! :)

== Back to the Future? ==

This whole Prom remindeth moi of the "Enchantment Under the Sea" Theme of the dance from the ''Back to the Future'' series and All the King's Men's suits are reminiscent of Marvin Berry and the Starlighters'. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 15:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Apparently, someone else thought the same thing, as that's already in the article. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Who is David Coppafeel? ==

I wonder who was responsible for violating Marzipan. I'm guessing Strong Mad, for the following reasons: (1) he was standing next to Marzipan with his hands up when the lights came back on, (2) he has been known to [[:Image:Mysfit-steries.PNG|violate Marzipan]] in the past (though this was later fixed by TBC), and (3) he's stupid/clumsy enough that it could have been an accident. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Just in case it's Homestar, it has been noted on [[Lack of Visible Arms]] (with some wording that indicates it might not be notable). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:16, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Mars rover ==

Someone deleted my STUFF'D Mars Rover entry?? Why? I thought i used all the templates right! (im ccool2ax, cant login right now)
:There's already a fact about the Mars rover in the real-world references section. That's why the STUFF was deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::It's required by law that you log in before STUFFing anyway. Well, maybe not law, but our own standards, anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:07, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Of course, that rule doesn't have much bearing here, since he [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:STUFF/senior_prom&diff=prev&oldid=319505 was logged in] at the time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh. Well, in that case... never mind. Pay no attention to the man behind the keyboard. These are not the sysops you seek. Uh... yeah. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Also, there's really not much else this "robot on Mars" could refer to, considering Spirit and Opportunity are the only ones up there... or at least, the only ones getting any press coverage. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:23, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Coppin' a feel? ==

Is it possible that someone "a-Grabbin' mah butt" as homestar aptly put it, or "David Coppafeel"...ing... as marzipan put it a recurring joke of some kind? They both happened after the lights go out in an unexplicable manner, and, to my knowledge, these are the only two instances of blackouts Throughout the site. Anyone else think this? {{User:Alcnolien/sig}} 21:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:''See [[Talk:Running_Gags#Coppin.27_a_feel.3F|Talk:Running Gags → Coppin' a feel?]]''

== Walrus Association ==

An inside reference claiming that the Walrus Association Easter egg is a reference to the Certified Arborist Easter egg from [[other days#Easter Eggs|other days]] was removed, on the grounds that "a repeated joke does not equal a reference" (paraphrase). However, I have compiled a list of reasons that lead me to believe that it is a reference, and a pretty clear reference at that. Athough I admit some of these are glaringly obvious, I feel I have the need to point them out.

*They are both Easter eggs (told you some of these were obvious)
*They are both business cards
*They are both jokes formed from the emailer's state abbreviation
*They are both accesed by clicking on the state abbreviation
*They both have a pair of images on the sides of the card
*They both have a 555 phone number followed by a 4-letter abbreviation pertaining to the business (TUSQ and [[Wikipedia:Xylem|XYLM]])
*They both list a mobile phone number as "coming soon" (or, in the Walrus card, "gimme about a week or so").
*They both have a quote/motto at the bottom pertaining to the business

and here's the giveaway...

*'''''They both use the same font.'''''

Also, I have searched the wiki and found no other business card formatted in this manner.

{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:Agreed, this is more than a repeat appearance... I think make it a inside reference, and if it happens a third time make it a running gag (like the [[Beverly Sportsinterviews]] books). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Well... next time, say what you mean. The only thing I hate more than vagueness is... some other thing. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:::i hate that...{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Summary/Relevance ==

Really, folks. The KOT's show is so minor to the plot (and such a delightful surprise) that including it in the summary of this 4:00+ email is kinda idiotic, IMO. If we're summarizing ''The Princess Bride'' in a sentence or two, Peter Falk and Fred Savage wouldn't get a mention. Same should go here. Rather than add it back in, please present an argument for its inclusion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:Because many users were led to believe it was what the toon was about. For The Brothers Chaps to go so far as to change the URL and main page message, it's a pretty big part of the email and makes it unique. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Agreed. It was a huge gag. I don't think anyone who went into that toon blind would have thought that a SBemail was on the way. Just because in retrospect it seems weirdly random doesn't mean that it wasn't important at that time. And come on, Fred Savage constantly interrupting Peter Falk's reading of the book? That was a pretty funny part of the story. "She doesn't get eaten by the eels at this time..."
::: Also agreed. I'ma put it back. Again. There's just something that strikes me as very funny about the strikethrough (on the wiki) and the way it picks up with Strong Bad in mid-sentence (on the official site). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
::::NO PETER FALK!!!!! wt* {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:Wait. I agree that was a great part of the story. My point was that if you're encapsulating it in a sentence or two, that's a detail you're likely not to mention in favor of the story of the characters in the tale. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think striking out a sentence makes the article unprofessional at all. On the contrary, I think it perfectly highlights the abrupt change in the course of the toon, and it recognizes the unique nature of how the email was promoted; namely, TBC announced it as a KoT toon, so we should incorporate that into the description at the top. The strikethrough is just a nice, humerous touch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Cool. Although I deleted the <s>struckthrough</s> part without having read this discussion, with an edit summary to which It's dot com's referring about it looking funny, I don't particularly feel strongly about it. And like I said, it's clever. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:43, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== This is not... America... (no!) ==

:*In the [[Wikipedia:United States|United States]], a senior [[Wikipedia:Prom|prom]] is a formal dance held at the end of the final year of high school.

I'm Canadian, and our senior proms are pretty much the same thing. Not every region uses the term "senior", but the "prom" thing is universal in every province. I won't edit until we get more information, since "In the United States and Canada" seems too bulky, but "In North America" might not be accurate since I don't know if Mexican schools do the same thing. Perhaps a bit more research is called for. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 18:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know where in Canada you're from, Ugliness Man, but I've never heard anyone use the word "prom" (except as an affectation). "Grad" is the much more common Canadian term, at least in my opinion. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 19:48, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:I've lived in Ontario and Prince Edward Island. I've only known "grad" in that context to refer to some non-formal or semi-formal end-of-year event, usually the night of the graduation ceremony, or less than a week beforehand, and is also sometimes called "safe grad" because it is a supervised event where drugs and alcohol are strictly forbidden. On the other hand, the "prom" usually happens at least a month before grad. In fact, I've never been to a high school that ''didn't'' have a prom. Obviously it's a matter of different people having different experiences, but the point still stands that the prom is not a USA-only occurance by any stretch, considering I've been to 3 proms (and 5 Christmas proms) and I've lived in Canada my whole life. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::From your experience, are Canadian proms typically intended for seniors, or for all classes? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::The "regular" prom is open only to the graduates and their guests (in other words, any graduate going out with someone not graduating that year is allowed to bring them). I suppose this would make the term "senior prom" redundant. Then again, we rarely use the term "senior" anyway, students are referred to by what grade they're in. It's apocryphal, but just for the sake of full disclosure, the Christmas prom is open to all students. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:From Wikipedia's article on [[Wikipedia:Prom|proms]]:

<blockquote>In the '''United States''', a '''prom''', short for promenade, is a formal dance held at the end of the years of high school and college, called junior prom and senior prom respectively. In British English such an event would be called a ball, although in '''Canada''', Australia and New Zealand it is also often called a '''formal'''.</blockquote>

:(Emphasis added) Please know that I am not from Canada, so I do not have firsthand knowledge about this.
:{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::That's rather odd... I've lived in 2 Canadian provinces and my ex-wife has lived in 4, and neither of us have heard the term "formal" used like in that context. Every such dance has been called a "prom" or "senior prom" (and in some places there's a Christmas prom, but that's another story). I think when I'm more awake I'll take a nip over to the Wikipedia article and see what their source is for that information. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:38, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::I'm sure that there are other countries in the world that have senior proms, but I think the fact can stay written as it is. The current wording does not preclude the existence of senior proms in other countries; also, both TBC and Free Country are in the USA. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::::I disagree. Leaving it stated as it is suggests that the prom is a USA-only event. I feel that it should either be changed to include countries other than the USA, or changed to remove the reference to any specific country. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::How's 'bout:
:::*A senior [[Wikipedia:Prom|prom]] is a formal dance held at the end of the final year of high school, chiefly in the [[Wikipedia:United States|United States]].
:::::Though we had a junior prom, but that's irrelevent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

::::::That's a fair compromise to me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== "Koo koo ka-choo" (Bless You) ==

The phrase "Koo koo ka-choo" is also from Simon and Garfunkel's "Mrs. Robinson".
: That's nice. However, the "Goo goo ga-joob" reference in "I Am the '''Walrus'''" is more relevant to a '''Walrus''' Association, is it not? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::198.107.27.252: Yup, Simon and Garfunkel took it from the Beatles. A few other people have too, if I remember correctly. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:12, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::True. They were both 1967 songs, so I'm not sure which was written first (I'm inclined to guess that the S&G song is actually referring to "I am the Walrus", since it features other pop culture references. Also, this was a time of great "inspiration" for The BeatLeS D). At any rate, the Walrus Association definitely ties it to The Beatles' song. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::::just wondering, do either of these actually have any connection to reality?{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::"[[Wikipedia:I am the Walrus|I am the Walrus]]" intentionally has no meaning:

<blockquote>
Lennon received a letter from a pupil of Quarry Bank Grammar School, which he had attended as a child. The writer mentioned that their English master was making his class analyze Beatles' song lyrics. (John wrote an answer to the letter, dated September 1, 1967, which was auctioned by Christie's of London in 1992).
 Lennon, amused that a teacher was putting that much effort into understanding Beatles lyrics, decided to write the most confusing, unusual lyric he could.
 ...
 Upon finishing the lyrics, Lennon remarked to Shotton, "Let [them] work that one out."
</blockquote>

:::::"Mrs Robinson" has much more to do with reality, as several lines relate to the movie "The Graduate", in which the song debuted. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes, but this line still is meaningless there. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That's right—its meaning is simply to refer to The Beatles' song. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== still saving the last one... ==

i would just like to say that i am personally gratefull that we are still saving the last email for strongbad. that wait was somewhat scary. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:48, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== nebulon style reference. ==

this aint enough to make it to the arcticle style page, but nebulon and style are mentioned in this email. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:51, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Caption ==

Can we stop the edit war and discuss captions here? Thanks so much. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, please, let's do so. Now, the person who has been removing the quote has argued that it shouldn't be there because Marzipan, who says the quote, is not in the picture. I don't find this argument convincing. I don't think a quote has to line up ''exactly'' with the image as long as its connection with the image is clear. And here, I think the connection is indeed clear: what happens in the image ''is'' what happens every year. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:50, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Peep: worth a fun fact? ==

I noticed the inclusion of "summat" as a real-world reference, which made me wonder if including a similar item for the rap term [http://www.rapdict.org/Peep peep] was worth one as well, esp. since TBC use a lot of hip-hop lingo. Is it too widely known? | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:26, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Talk:senior prom

2006-05-07T19:26:49Z

Totoro: Peep - worth a fun fact?

== Is the KOT Very Own Show a reference to Butter's Own Episode on South Park ==

Just a comment about the thoughts I had before realizing it was a sbemail instead of a KOT short!
~OptimumCoder
:I don't think it was an intentional reference, as the Brothers Chaps claim they don't watch South Park, and definitely not to that episode (the fact that it's his very own episode is a little too broad), but it is remarkable similar to the infamous Terrance and Phillip episode. They were running a 2-part episode, and rather than showing the second part of it, since the airdate fell on April Fools, they showed a completely unrelated episode. I was thinking of adding this to the references. As long as it's clear that it probably isn't intentional, I think it would fit. And complaints, before I add it? [[User:Evan|Evan]]
::No, this thing is totally a parady of ''Butter's Own Episode''. The opening music is nearly an exact match. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:30, 3 May 2006 (PDT)
:::If someone could get a screenshot from Butters own Episode that would be helpful.
::::I have the episode on my compy, matter o' fact. The "Everyone Knows It's Butters!" part sounds SORTA like the KoT chime, but if the song was a little longer and described how the KoT thinks being your self is the best thing around, then MAYBE I would agree. :P I still insist that it's more like the Terrance and Phillip gag as mentioned.

::::EDIT: Hope it's okay, but I uploaded the song from the Butters episode. http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Butterssong.ogg Whaddya think? I still insist that it's a little vague. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

==Almond paste filled sweet delight==
I think Strong Bad is talking about Marzipan here... you know, the real type.--[[User:Dwedit|Dwedit]] 16:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

:From Wikipedia: "Marzipan is a confectionery consisting primarily of ground almonds and sugar that derives its characteristic flavor from bitter almonds, which constitute 4% to 6% of total almond content by weight." Sounds reasonable to me. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::I like it. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH... I get it now. That fact was extremely poorly worded, hence my removal of it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::::So, right now the FF ends with "The comment is clearly directed at the character Marzipan." What about Coach Z and Strong Sad (and the band)? The comment ''may'' be directed only at Marzipan (and this would coincide with the reference to the confection), but I don't agree that it's clear that he's only talking to Marzipan. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 02:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::: Marzipans are very gross in my opinion. Yuckaroo— [[User:24.119.81.22|24.119.81.22]] ([[User talk:24.119.81.22|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.119.81.22|contribs]]) 22:36, 5 May 2006 (left [[HRWiki:Standards#Do sign your Talk posts|unsigned]])<noinclude>[[Category:Internal link templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]</noinclude>

== The poopsmith speaketh!? ==

Did the poopsmith really just speak in this email? The voice sounds exactly like the poopsmith's in different town, but the poopsmith is shown shrugging afterwards like that wasn't his voice. I'd like to say that he didn't, but I'm not too sure about it. What are your opinions? - Wevegottapulse

:I think it was him. Who else could it be? It sounded like he was about to lead the band into that "Oh Yeah" song from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::Reply to Trey: Totally different "Ohhh Yeah", actually. The one in this email is higher-pitched and was pretty common to hear in this kind of music. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::There's certainly enough suggestion there (that this was The Poopsmith). Might I also point out that this was done in the same voice as the "Hello!" in [[different town]].
::THEN AGAIN! That was in Strong Bad's imagination. Do we have proof that this scene was NOT in Strong Bad's imagination? Did this senior prom actually happen? If not, having The Poopsmith speak here might not be as unusual as it would be if this senior prom really did happen. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I personally think its safe to assume this email wasn't in Strong Bad's imagination. With how Strong Bad actually got The Cheat and Strong Mad to help him and all. (If it was, then we really can't trust anything that happens in H*R ever again. >.> ) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Fair enough. :) Since we can't absolutely prove it was The Poopsmith who said "Ohhh yeah!", there's a Fun Fact there that ties this occurrence together with [[different town]]. I believe that should suffice. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Everyone thought it was him, but Mr. Smith shook his head and shrugged, as if to say, "It wasn't me! I don't know who that was!"[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 19:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Did the Oh Yeah remind anyone else of the Kool-Aid Man's catchphrase? Before the Poopsmith was shown I thought that was who was speaking. Don't know if it's good enough to be a Real Life reference. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Now that you mention it, it does remind me of that! That would've been a perfect end to the email—the Kool-Aid Man busting through the concrete wall with his famous catchphrase; everyone staring at him agape as he sheepishly retreats a few moments later. With only the phrase though, it's probably a coincidence. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:40, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, it makes no sense as a reference. No one crashed through a wall. And they already had a refreshing punch available. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::::If he did that, it would then become a Family Guy reference, as I've seen that exact same scene happen on Family Guy in about a brazillian animated .gifs on LiveJournal. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 18:06, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

There's no solid proof that it was the Poopsmith.
:Yes, that has been pointed out. Nobody is claiming that it definitely ''was'' the Poopsmith in this case. We're acknowledging that it was "very strongly suggested", but the whole point of the joke is that we didn't see it happen. So there's still some ambiguity there. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::It could have easily been The Knight or The Blacksmith. We've never heard ''them'' speak! {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:49, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps the voice was ventriloquism performed by David Coppafeel. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Even if he did speak, why really care? It's just a goofy site, and it was probably just a joke that didn't mean anything -Guest

:If you don't care, then why bother to post in this thread? But take a look around the wiki. You'll see we care about a great deal of minutia. It's actually quite fascinating, once you get the hang of it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== More than two prom...blems? ==

Current Fun Fact:

*Marzipan's comment "...every freakin' year...." implies that she has attended the senior prom more than once. Because it is typically the final dance in high school, most people only attend the senior prom once.

I edited this from another version that said "it seems implausible that she would have attended it more than once". I beg to differ: There are a few reasons why she could have. (1) She could have gotten held back and repeated <s>the third grade</s> her senior year multiple times. (2) She could have gone with Homestar in previous years (and he'd probably be more likely to get held back). And (3) She could have served some other purpose in previous years.

My point is, I don't think we have enough to go on to say why she'd be at the prom multiple years. But a lot of cartoons and comics run on the implication that the characters never age, and they repeat the same years of their lives each year (a 365-day version of Groundhog Day, or something). That seems plausible in the HR Universe as well. Thus, I think the Fun Fact should kinda gloss over the "implausibilities" and relate Marzipan's comment to the way it is in real life.

[[the show|And for the block, do you agree?]] {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
: I agree. Also, Marzipan could have simply ''heard'' that pantless-Strong Bad won Prom Queen multiple years in a row or whatever happened. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:57, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

It makes more sense to me that they just all go to a senior prom every year. [[User:130.127.84.204|130.127.84.204]] 18:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't Marzipan's initial " as always, we're the only couple at the prom" comment lend further credence to the whole multiple prom hypothesis? [[User:85.65.116.80|85.65.116.80]] 00:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

The thing is some schools let any students go to the prom. --[[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:33, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

Another possibility is that, like in many cartoons, none of the characters age. This would allow for a senior prom every year. Also note that in many of the same cartoons (or comic strips), they can have "flashbacks" to x number of years ago, despite the fact that in reality they were the same age in that year as they are now. [[User:Point7Q|Point7Q]] 03:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Everybody everybody! Longest pants! ==

I would suggest that there definitely needs to be a reference regarding the ongoing pants/no-pants debate regarding Coach Z and Homestar. This seems to put the nail in the coffin that there are, in fact, no pants going on with either of them. Although (he realizes) it could also be argued that Coach Z wears a body suit, which doesn't technically have any stand-alone pants, which still leaves the door open for his "green-body/green body suit" ambiguity. (PS: Stand Alone Pants would be a great name for a rock band.)
:There's a reference to [[Homestar's Pants]] already on the page. That's where the debate is most fully explained. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::Whether or not this is proof Homestar doesn't wear pants should be put up for a vote me thinks. The obvious argument for would be the fact that his pants didn't poof away at all and his discussion with pompom during the easteregg seemed to imply he was covering. The arguments against could be that Strong Bads remote malfunctioned, or perhaps Homestar wears pants that look exactly like his legs!

:::I like the "Maybe Homestar's pants look exactly like his legs" line of thinking. Another thought on Coach Z: how can one reliably say that he "puked his pants" and then have no pants disappear? On a personal note, two years ago, before finding this site, I never thought I would be this concerned about the existence of a cartoon character's pants.

::::For general [[Pants]], see [[Pants]]. (Would General Pants be a good name for a Cheat Commando?) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:18, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Better than "Firebert."
:::::Well, the fact that we didn't hear a poof or see a poof is enough evedince for me that Homestar is pantsless and not a long pants man.

::::::Right, it seems like Homestar is the only one around who seems convinced that he wears pants. Coach Z is still a bit of an issue, in my mind. As far as the [[Pants]] page is concerned, that's less an informational resource on the evidence for and against the various characters' pantsitudinal condition and more of a link to all the cartoons where someone simply mentions the word "pants." Since this is such a long-standing gag, it would be nice to see it expanded.

:::::::Every time recently that Homestar's pants have been mentioned, TBC present both sides, first suggesting one thing and then the other. (The same is true for Homestar's arms.) It is ''intentionally'' ambiguous. I wouldn't be surprised if TBC didn't even know the true nature of things. He's drawn that way just because it looks right to them. Trying to assert that he actually does or doesn't have pants (or, sheesh, ''voting here'' on the matter) would be futile. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::::::::Of course it's intentionally ambiguous. That's not in dispute. The location of Springfield on The Simpsons is intentionally ambiguous as well, not meant to have an actual answer, but it's still entertaining to look at a single body of evidence regarding all the clues to its location. Considering all the "pants/no pants" and even "arms/no arms" clues TBC have sprinkled throughout the life of this gag, am I the only one that would find it an entertaining resource to have all the data in one place?

:::::::::That's why we have articles like [[Homestar's Pants]] and [[Pants]]. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::: more pants!!!!{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:38, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Thank Goodness! ==

I'ma just glad Strong Bad wore undawears this day. Thank you, thank you. Back to where I was! {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 18:30, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. I actually didn't realise that Strong Bad was the only one in the group that wears pants until now. Maybe Bubs too, but he wasn't in the shot. I can't imagine how Bubs would look pantsless.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 18:39, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
: There's something I'd prefer not to think about... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::i blame this problem quite squarely on tight pants. yep, tight pants. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::''{shudders at the thought of Pantless Strong Bad or Pantless Bubs. They're not exactly Ms. America, are they?}'' {{User:The Chort/sig}} 11:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

==Hey, ummm, everybody?==

This wasn't really the senior prom. It all happens in the present, and evrybody was probably preforming for Strong Bad's little idea thing.
:See Joshua's comment above, about whether it was in SB's imagination or not. If it wasn't a canonical occurence, then we really can't trust anything that happens on H*R.com again. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

::Further more, why would everyone play this out for Strong Bad. Obviously, Marzipan wouldn't do anything for Strong Bad
:::She played Cutesy Buttons. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

:::Obviously they're playing their roles in 'Strong Bads Quite popular cartoon show' which is why he threw together that over-the-top opening scene with the "answering machine"
::::My two theories:
::::1. This is their SENIOR year and they did a large amount of growing up from whenever highschool took place.
::::2. The highschool e-mail was the fake thing (as said, doodle memory) and this is real. High School Strong Bad WAS in another universe, although so were Old-Timey, Stinkoman and Storybook Strong Bad, who we know take place in different parts of time. [[User:Evan|Evan]]

== All the Kingsmen ==

I know the band's name All the King's Men is more than likely a reference to the nursery rhyme Humpty Dumpty (which remarkably isn't in RWR). But it could also be a reference to the rock band "The Kingsmen", famous for their cover of "Louie Louie". [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 20:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
*It sounds plausible to me - sort of like Before and After Puzzles on Wheel of Fortune. It would fit the situation, since that seems to be the cover band type. Do I detect a double meaning? {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 20:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Delilelia, you got me on my knees ==

What is up with the "Delilelia" easter egg? -[[User:Shnizzedy|Johnny Baby]] 20:58, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:Since we missed the beginning of the email, that part's recapping what we missed. So we still have an email song and all that. {{User:SBLOUNSKCHED!/sig}} 21:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::About that, is this the first SBEMAIL to feature the email song at the end??? {{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 11:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I think so, but only because it was the first time we missed the song at the start. And it's [[morning routine|not the first time]] that the song has been sung somewhere other than the very start. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

== Jumping the Shark ==

Anyone else think that the way SB pronounced "Copperfield" was...ahem...risque?
Alex H.
:That was Marzipan, and someone says that ''every single frikking time'' someone in the 'toons mentions something even remotely sexual. People said the same thing when Strong Bad mentioned naked women in [[secret identity]], for instance. And it's no worse than [[3 Times Halloween Funjob|somebody a-gwabbin' Homestar's butt]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::I'd like to see "Jumping the Shark" make its permanent home on the forums, personally. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:51, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I'd be willing to make a complainery type topic about this, if someone else would help find all the refs ([[Commandos in the Classroom]] comes to mind, but I dunno what else). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Astro-Sad ==

Would this be an inside refrence that Strong Sad was dressed as an astronaut in the sketch book?

:No, he was dressed as an astronaut because that was the prom theme. Everybody else was either too cool or too stupid to dress up though. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::I do think it's significant that Strong Sadonaut appeared in the Sketchbook prior to this cartoon, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

== Boxers or Briefs ==

The fun fact about SB saying he never wears underwear could still be true...some people consider "underwear" to mean briefs, but boxers as something else.

== Little Robot On Mars ==

Is that a refference to the "explorer" or whatever the heck that Mars Rover is called? You know the one we sent to mars to take pictures of the surface and its all the time getting stuck on rocks and crap?
: We're one step ahead of you: check Real-World References on the main page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== David Copperfield ==

It seems more likely that the reference to ''David Copperfield'' is from the [http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copperfield_%28novel%29 very famous book] by Dickens than the illusionist. Certainly, the latter probably takes his name from the former (though it could be a coincidence) so unless there is a specific reason why it would be the illusionist over the book, it seems like the reference should be cataloged as being to the book and not the person (or, at least, both the book and the person). --[[User:Sailor titan|Sailor titan]] 06:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:While I agree that the book is more famous than the illusionist, I'd imagine it would be hard for Strong Bad to take Delilelia to see [[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (novel)|David Copperfield the novel]] perform. [[Wikipedia:David Copperfield (illusionist)|David Copperfield the illusionist]] is more of a performer. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:43, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Old Folks Cafeteria ==

Could the "All You Can Eat Old Folks' Cafeteria" refer to Hometown Buffet or some similar establishment? {{User:Bassbone/sig}} 08:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Clearly it does - so clearly, in fact, that it's the joke and needs no comment. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::Apparently not as clearly as you think--because I have no idea what you're talking about ^^;;; what is the "Hometown Buffet"? Mayhaps this is some kind of regional custom/establishment that we don't have here in the northeast? --[[User:Sailor titan|Sailor titan]] 16:12, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Granny's Buffet is a more national chain, or Old Country Buffet, but the poin is that anyone can tell the kind of place he means, and that's the joke. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 20:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== KOT's Cartoon Show ==
Was anyone else disappointed when the KOTs cartoon show was interrupted for the Strong Bad e-mail? I was like "Hey a KOT cartoon? YES! There hasn't been one since 'The King of Town DVD'" Then I was like "awwwwe man!" when it was interrupted. I had high hopes, I always like to see the so-called reject characters (KOT, Strong Sad, Homsar) get together once in awhile. Though don't get me wrong I had worries E-mail #150 would be the last. Worries which were finally put to rest. Thank god.
:I was as well. Personally, I think the KOT is always consistently funny -- "Butter-da" and "stuffinged ham" still cracks me up -- and I went through the same emotional cycle as thee. "Cool! Aww..." And since I didn't think this was a particularly strong SBemail, it made for a double dose of disappointment. It's a shame the KOT keeps getting dumped on as being unpopular. He's got a hell of a lot more humor potential than the Poopsmith.
::I was a bit disappointed at first, but the fun of a good Marzipan appearance made up for it. She's been absent-ish lately, but today she got a major role and a neat new hairstyle! :)

== Back to the Future? ==

This whole Prom remindeth moi of the "Enchantment Under the Sea" Theme of the dance from the ''Back to the Future'' series and All the King's Men's suits are reminiscent of Marvin Berry and the Starlighters'. [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] 15:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Apparently, someone else thought the same thing, as that's already in the article. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Who is David Coppafeel? ==

I wonder who was responsible for violating Marzipan. I'm guessing Strong Mad, for the following reasons: (1) he was standing next to Marzipan with his hands up when the lights came back on, (2) he has been known to [[:Image:Mysfit-steries.PNG|violate Marzipan]] in the past (though this was later fixed by TBC), and (3) he's stupid/clumsy enough that it could have been an accident. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 17:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Just in case it's Homestar, it has been noted on [[Lack of Visible Arms]] (with some wording that indicates it might not be notable). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:16, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Mars rover ==

Someone deleted my STUFF'D Mars Rover entry?? Why? I thought i used all the templates right! (im ccool2ax, cant login right now)
:There's already a fact about the Mars rover in the real-world references section. That's why the STUFF was deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::It's required by law that you log in before STUFFing anyway. Well, maybe not law, but our own standards, anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:07, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Of course, that rule doesn't have much bearing here, since he [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:STUFF/senior_prom&diff=prev&oldid=319505 was logged in] at the time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh. Well, in that case... never mind. Pay no attention to the man behind the keyboard. These are not the sysops you seek. Uh... yeah. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:Also, there's really not much else this "robot on Mars" could refer to, considering Spirit and Opportunity are the only ones up there... or at least, the only ones getting any press coverage. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:23, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

== Coppin' a feel? ==

Is it possible that someone "a-Grabbin' mah butt" as homestar aptly put it, or "David Coppafeel"...ing... as marzipan put it a recurring joke of some kind? They both happened after the lights go out in an unexplicable manner, and, to my knowledge, these are the only two instances of blackouts Throughout the site. Anyone else think this? {{User:Alcnolien/sig}} 21:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
:''See [[Talk:Running_Gags#Coppin.27_a_feel.3F|Talk:Running Gags → Coppin' a feel?]]''

== Walrus Association ==

An inside reference claiming that the Walrus Association Easter egg is a reference to the Certified Arborist Easter egg from [[other days#Easter Eggs|other days]] was removed, on the grounds that "a repeated joke does not equal a reference" (paraphrase). However, I have compiled a list of reasons that lead me to believe that it is a reference, and a pretty clear reference at that. Athough I admit some of these are glaringly obvious, I feel I have the need to point them out.

*They are both Easter eggs (told you some of these were obvious)
*They are both business cards
*They are both jokes formed from the emailer's state abbreviation
*They are both accesed by clicking on the state abbreviation
*They both have a pair of images on the sides of the card
*They both have a 555 phone number followed by a 4-letter abbreviation pertaining to the business (TUSQ and [[Wikipedia:Xylem|XYLM]])
*They both list a mobile phone number as "coming soon" (or, in the Walrus card, "gimme about a week or so").
*They both have a quote/motto at the bottom pertaining to the business

and here's the giveaway...

*'''''They both use the same font.'''''

Also, I have searched the wiki and found no other business card formatted in this manner.

{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 02:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:Agreed, this is more than a repeat appearance... I think make it a inside reference, and if it happens a third time make it a running gag (like the [[Beverly Sportsinterviews]] books). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 02:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Well... next time, say what you mean. The only thing I hate more than vagueness is... some other thing. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:::i hate that...{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Summary/Relevance ==

Really, folks. The KOT's show is so minor to the plot (and such a delightful surprise) that including it in the summary of this 4:00+ email is kinda idiotic, IMO. If we're summarizing ''The Princess Bride'' in a sentence or two, Peter Falk and Fred Savage wouldn't get a mention. Same should go here. Rather than add it back in, please present an argument for its inclusion. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:Because many users were led to believe it was what the toon was about. For The Brothers Chaps to go so far as to change the URL and main page message, it's a pretty big part of the email and makes it unique. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Agreed. It was a huge gag. I don't think anyone who went into that toon blind would have thought that a SBemail was on the way. Just because in retrospect it seems weirdly random doesn't mean that it wasn't important at that time. And come on, Fred Savage constantly interrupting Peter Falk's reading of the book? That was a pretty funny part of the story. "She doesn't get eaten by the eels at this time..."
::: Also agreed. I'ma put it back. Again. There's just something that strikes me as very funny about the strikethrough (on the wiki) and the way it picks up with Strong Bad in mid-sentence (on the official site). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
::::NO PETER FALK!!!!! wt* {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:Wait. I agree that was a great part of the story. My point was that if you're encapsulating it in a sentence or two, that's a detail you're likely not to mention in favor of the story of the characters in the tale. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think striking out a sentence makes the article unprofessional at all. On the contrary, I think it perfectly highlights the abrupt change in the course of the toon, and it recognizes the unique nature of how the email was promoted; namely, TBC announced it as a KoT toon, so we should incorporate that into the description at the top. The strikethrough is just a nice, humerous touch. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Cool. Although I deleted the <s>struckthrough</s> part without having read this discussion, with an edit summary to which It's dot com's referring about it looking funny, I don't particularly feel strongly about it. And like I said, it's clever. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:43, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== This is not... America... (no!) ==

:*In the [[Wikipedia:United States|United States]], a senior [[Wikipedia:Prom|prom]] is a formal dance held at the end of the final year of high school.

I'm Canadian, and our senior proms are pretty much the same thing. Not every region uses the term "senior", but the "prom" thing is universal in every province. I won't edit until we get more information, since "In the United States and Canada" seems too bulky, but "In North America" might not be accurate since I don't know if Mexican schools do the same thing. Perhaps a bit more research is called for. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 18:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know where in Canada you're from, Ugliness Man, but I've never heard anyone use the word "prom" (except as an affectation). "Grad" is the much more common Canadian term, at least in my opinion. [[User:ModestlyHotGirl|ModestlyHotGirl]] 19:48, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:I've lived in Ontario and Prince Edward Island. I've only known "grad" in that context to refer to some non-formal or semi-formal end-of-year event, usually the night of the graduation ceremony, or less than a week beforehand, and is also sometimes called "safe grad" because it is a supervised event where drugs and alcohol are strictly forbidden. On the other hand, the "prom" usually happens at least a month before grad. In fact, I've never been to a high school that ''didn't'' have a prom. Obviously it's a matter of different people having different experiences, but the point still stands that the prom is not a USA-only occurance by any stretch, considering I've been to 3 proms (and 5 Christmas proms) and I've lived in Canada my whole life. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::From your experience, are Canadian proms typically intended for seniors, or for all classes? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::The "regular" prom is open only to the graduates and their guests (in other words, any graduate going out with someone not graduating that year is allowed to bring them). I suppose this would make the term "senior prom" redundant. Then again, we rarely use the term "senior" anyway, students are referred to by what grade they're in. It's apocryphal, but just for the sake of full disclosure, the Christmas prom is open to all students. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:From Wikipedia's article on [[Wikipedia:Prom|proms]]:

<blockquote>In the '''United States''', a '''prom''', short for promenade, is a formal dance held at the end of the years of high school and college, called junior prom and senior prom respectively. In British English such an event would be called a ball, although in '''Canada''', Australia and New Zealand it is also often called a '''formal'''.</blockquote>

:(Emphasis added) Please know that I am not from Canada, so I do not have firsthand knowledge about this.
:{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 21:19, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::That's rather odd... I've lived in 2 Canadian provinces and my ex-wife has lived in 4, and neither of us have heard the term "formal" used like in that context. Every such dance has been called a "prom" or "senior prom" (and in some places there's a Christmas prom, but that's another story). I think when I'm more awake I'll take a nip over to the Wikipedia article and see what their source is for that information. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:38, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::I'm sure that there are other countries in the world that have senior proms, but I think the fact can stay written as it is. The current wording does not preclude the existence of senior proms in other countries; also, both TBC and Free Country are in the USA. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::::I disagree. Leaving it stated as it is suggests that the prom is a USA-only event. I feel that it should either be changed to include countries other than the USA, or changed to remove the reference to any specific country. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 21:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::How's 'bout:
:::*A senior [[Wikipedia:Prom|prom]] is a formal dance held at the end of the final year of high school, chiefly in the [[Wikipedia:United States|United States]].
:::::Though we had a junior prom, but that's irrelevent. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

::::::That's a fair compromise to me. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== "Koo koo ka-choo" (Bless You) ==

The phrase "Koo koo ka-choo" is also from Simon and Garfunkel's "Mrs. Robinson".
: That's nice. However, the "Goo goo ga-joob" reference in "I Am the '''Walrus'''" is more relevant to a '''Walrus''' Association, is it not? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::198.107.27.252: Yup, Simon and Garfunkel took it from the Beatles. A few other people have too, if I remember correctly. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:12, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:::True. They were both 1967 songs, so I'm not sure which was written first (I'm inclined to guess that the S&G song is actually referring to "I am the Walrus", since it features other pop culture references. Also, this was a time of great "inspiration" for The BeatLeS D). At any rate, the Walrus Association definitely ties it to The Beatles' song. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

::::just wondering, do either of these actually have any connection to reality?{{User:Csours/sig}} 06:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::"[[Wikipedia:I am the Walrus|I am the Walrus]]" intentionally has no meaning:

<blockquote>
Lennon received a letter from a pupil of Quarry Bank Grammar School, which he had attended as a child. The writer mentioned that their English master was making his class analyze Beatles' song lyrics. (John wrote an answer to the letter, dated September 1, 1967, which was auctioned by Christie's of London in 1992).
 Lennon, amused that a teacher was putting that much effort into understanding Beatles lyrics, decided to write the most confusing, unusual lyric he could.
 ...
 Upon finishing the lyrics, Lennon remarked to Shotton, "Let [them] work that one out."
</blockquote>

:::::"Mrs Robinson" has much more to do with reality, as several lines relate to the movie "The Graduate", in which the song debuted. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes, but this line still is meaningless there. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 14:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::That's right—its meaning is simply to refer to The Beatles' song. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== still saving the last one... ==

i would just like to say that i am personally gratefull that we are still saving the last email for strongbad. that wait was somewhat scary. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:48, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== nebulon style reference. ==

this aint enough to make it to the arcticle style page, but nebulon and style are mentioned in this email. {{User:Csours/sig}} 06:51, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

== Peep: worth a fun fact? ==

I noticed the inclusion of "summat" as a real-world reference, which made me wonder if including a similar item for the rap term [http://www.rapdict.org/Peep peep] was worth one as well, esp. since TBC use a lot of hip-hop lingo. Is it too widely known? | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:26, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Thy Dungeonman 3

2006-04-27T13:26:06Z

Totoro: /* Glitch */ a related glitch, and a possible solution

== First Impressions ==
Okay, everybody, I have the benefit of being a timezone where it made sense to be awake when DMIII was released. Thus, I have started the article. This is my first ever HRWiki edit, so I tried not to be too ambitious. I'm sure you will have filled in the rest by the time I finish typing this. Thank you! [[User:Matthew McVickar|Matthew McVickar]] 10:26, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey everybody, this is the kid who made that one [http://s88340807.onlinehome.us/~bkr/archives/2004/02/24/thy_dungeonman_2_walkthrough.php walkthrough] for Thy Dungeonman II way back when. I was looking for a way to kill time between CS assignments at 2:00 AM and found that the Bros Chaps released a new Dungeonman game! Here is the basic sequence of steps: I know this awesome community will flesh it out. Thanks guys! [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 10:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Best Dungeonman ever. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 12:09, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:I'll second this. This is the first one in the series that felt like a real Adventure-style game, rather than more of a series of jokes (not that there's anything wrong with series of jokes, either). | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 22:14, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

The useful word ''ganching'' has now entered my vocabulary. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

== Canonical name ==

I think these pages need to be moved to [[Thy Dungeonman 3]] (with the arabic numeral instead of the roman numeral). First of all, and most importantly, the actual title screen uses the numeral 3. In addition, the [[Videlectrix:videlectrix_catalog.html|game catalog]] lists a 3. I realize the [[Videlectrix:videlectrix_gallery.html|box art]] has a III, but that shouldn't outweigh what's displayed in the actual game, should it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:23, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:Probably not. Though they should be left as redirects. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 16:29, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::The first title one would normally see is the box title, not the in-game title. I'd leave it as is. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:32, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:::The only place it says III is on the box. ''Everywhere'' in the game it's referred to as 3. The updates button refers to it as 3. I vote for the move, keeping redirects. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:40, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Qermaq: I didn't think of this earlier, but most people wouldn't even ''see'' the box art (you have to dig around Videlectrix to find it), whereas everyone who plays the game will see the title screen. Therefore, people searching for the game here will be using a 3. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::The liberty TBC have taken with using roman/arabic numerals leads me to conclude that it's okay to use them interchangeably for this game. I would rather keep our counting method the same rather than duplicate what we see on the game's title screen. I would like it for us to have articles for Thy Dungeonman II and III, or Thy Dungeonman 2 and 3. I can't stand to see it both ways. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:38, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::I think it's more TBC's style to ''intentionally'' mix roman and arabic numerals. I think our need should be to get it right as it appears on the title screen, not by some arbitrary counting system. Coincidentally, it was I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Thy_Dungeonman_II&diff=157446&oldid=146992 who noticed] that Thy Dungeonman II's title screen uses a roman numeral. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:14, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Thy Dungeonman isn't the [[Wikipedia:Doom|only]] game [[Wikipedia:Descent (computer game)|series]] to use II and 3 in their game titles. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Also, we've got the nonmatching Duck Guardians ("[[Duck Guardian One|One]]" and "[[Duck Guardian 2|2]]"). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:38, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Aren't the Pentium procesors like that too? My computer runs on a III, but then there is Pentium 4, right? Pentium D and M also go in another direction. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:14, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

== fake blood, um i mean fake ketchup. ==

kinda funny, using fake ketchup for fake blood... {{User:Csours/sig}} 19:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
: Who said it was ''fake'' blood? The game never once even hints in that direction, and in fact hints that it's really blood multiple times. Though it never outright says it... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:18, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, it makes more sense as a joke that way. "Fake Blood" = Ketchup generally, so it stands to reason that "Fake Ketchup" = Blood. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:22, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::: OMG!!! it is full of cholesterol. ugghh. thou feelest very ill. {{User:Csours/sig}} 19:27, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

== Glitch ==

Umm... I am experiencing a problem. I have found the hag, and I correctly answer the first two questions. But no matter which of the four choices I choose for question three, I die. Whatith happenth? --{{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}} 19:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
: Use the version from Homestarrunner.com (rather than Videlectrix.com) or clear your cache. That's a known issue when she has four haglets. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:26, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, it ''is'' four for me. That's likely the problem. Thanks. Also, would I be able to load from my save after I clear the cache? --{{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}} 19:29, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:::You should. The saved games aren't part of your cache; they're cookies. You cache just saves a copy of every page you visit (within a certain size) so that they'll load faster later. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:32, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Hmm... Didn't seem to work. Clearing the cache is ''Shift + Reload'' for Firefox, right? --{{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}} 19:36, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Are you playing the game through Homestarrunner.com? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes. I noticed something even wierder when I cleared my cahce. Whenever I start a game, I start at the Hag. Noth! --{{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}} 19:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Oddly, that just happened to me a moment ago too. And I had the "fake ketchup" but zero points! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Maybe I should remove the H*R cookies... --{{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}} 19:47, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Hmm... I'll try playing in IE. --{{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}} 20:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I just played this today, and the hag wouldn't accept the correct answer, four haglets. Three was accepted though.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 15:36, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I had a similar glitch; here's how I worked around it. The scrapbook first had two haglets, and it accepted 2 as the answer, but I missed the final question and had to restart. I looked at the scrapbook again and this time it had 4 haglets. I answered 4, but it didn't accept it. So I started again (again), looked at the scrapbook (still 4), then answered 2 and it worked. So perhaps the first # of haglets is persistent. | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 13:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== Huh? ==

For some strange reason, it starts me up at the hag clearing. I don't get that. Is my cookies messed? Oh no. Help me! {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 20:38, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:Happens to me too. Why'd you post this twice? [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 20:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::It's just a mistake on TBC's part. It'll probably be fixed real soon, so I suggest you find something else to play until they solve the problem. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:50, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I got it too. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

== Pictures ==
Does anybody recognize any of the pictures from anywhere? Or did TBC stage/draw all of these scenes themselves? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:50, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:My guess-- they drew 'em. Or took pictures (for the people, I didn't get very far, ok?!) of themselves/friends.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:15, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:The vegetable cart man outside Westerburg is definitely based on Matt. I wouldn't be surprised if the pictures were just contrasted to look that way. But some of them were probably drawn. [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 22:26, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::The vegetable cart guy reminds me of Carrot Top. I wonder if he might be "Corn Top" or something, given that he's carting corn. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:46, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

== Older games like this? ==

I seem to remember playing a game like this in middle school about twelve years ago on an old Apple II (the game was probably old even then). It was 2D, and it sported a series of monochrome drawings (or maybe it was just the monitor that was monochrome, I dunno) and crude animation (two frames for walking). You were a guy exploring a castle, and you had to collect items and solve puzzles. I remember barely anything about it, except that you could go up and down stairs and I think one of the objects was a magic goblet. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? :p [[User:68.33.67.116|68.33.67.116]] 04:03, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

== Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy? ==

"'Corn in thy ear' is a reference to an episode of Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy (entitled Scrambled Ed) in which Ed says 'Do you have corn in your ears, mister?'"

Leaping to conclusions, much? Looks like a pretty simple play on the phrase "ear of corn" to me.

:Ah. "Ear of corn". I didn't get that. Sorry. [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 08:37, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== Out of the X and into the Y ==

Seems to me that "Out of the dungeon and into the bile" is a reference to the chapter from The Hobbit, "Out of the frying pan and into the fire". [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 20:43, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
:That's a common phrase... --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 20:49, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
::I was just thinking about the "Hobbit" reference. And so what, it's a common phrase? The Hobbit is medieval fantasy, which fits with the theme. {{User:VolatileChemical/sig}} 00:19, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
:::The thing is... is it in the book because it's a common phrase, or is it a common phrase because it gets quoted a bunch from the book, so often it became cliched? Personally I'm betting on the former, but I don't know for sure... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:03, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm pretty certain that the phrase was already in common use before Tolkien wrote The Hobbit. It's a very old phrase - I'd have to look this up, but I believe you can trace this phrase's roots all the way back to the Bible (Proverbs, specifically). As it is, it's generally considered a proverb of sorts. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:15, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== Pirates! Reference ==

Hey, maybe it's just me, but isn't the ending screen very similar to the ending of Sid Meier's Pirates! (stupid games with puncuation in the titles)? If no one here knows what that game is, I'll get a pic with the ending text from it and link/post it here. --[[User:Neuromancer6|Neuromancer6]]
:Yea. It ''is'' a little like that. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 22:45, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

== Nebulon Reference ==

WHy did someone remove the nebulon reference? I thought that was pretty clear too, it wasn't me who wrote it.

:I removed it because the word "style" is mentioned many other times on Homestar Runner. Just a few examples: "[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|Quit bitin' my style!]]", [[Styles Upon Styles]], "[[technology|Strong Bad gots the style]]", [[Price Style]]. It wasn't a clear reference to [[New Boots]] or any of the examples I gave. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:01, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
::Wasn't there once a page about "Style" references? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::[[Sample of Style]], [[Sample of Style Too]], [[Puppets on the Road|"My style's got eight burgers"]]... The list goes on! We ought to have a page on "[[style]]". [[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 08:40, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

== They Might Be Giants Reference ==
I don't know how best to put this into the Wiki... One of the game's responses is "I don't understand you. I cannot understand you. I don't understand a thing you say. I can't understand a single word." These are lyrics from They Might Be Giants' "Fingertips".
:Good catch! However, it is already noted in [[Thy Dungeonman 3#Real-World References]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:21, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
::Fingertips, I might add, is one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:47, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

==Death glitch?==
It seems that when you die and the continue sequence appears, it says "Press C to cnntinue." This may just be a glitch with my PC, or a purposeful thing, but it's definitely a "n" not an "o" [[User:Motor.on|Motor.on]] 00:39, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
:I get that too. It looks sort of like a cut off "o", but it also looks exactly like the n next to it. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 20:28, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

== II & 3 ==
Can we please make the two games labled as II & III or 2 & 3? Having them use seperate numerical systems looks... very inconsistant... and bad. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:50, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

:See conversation [[#Canonical name|here]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:53, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

== Behold Thy 5 1/4" Floppy Noise! ==

More specifically, that "floppy" noise is from an Apple II-series external floppy drive. (This does not include the Apple IIc or IIGS, which had internal drives.) And even more specifically, the drive would make that "sputtering" sound when the computer is first powered on or reset, or if there is no disk in the drive.

Which means, if TBC had wanted this to be more lifelike, they would have included a quieter sound where you could hear the drive power up and the head seeking back and forth across the disk. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:52, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

== Where is Storng Bad ==

Isn't thy dungeonman one of the games Strong Bad stars in, as his email says he does? Then where is he?
: Thy Dungeonman is what Strong Bad would look like if he looked like a muscular half-naked guy in a viking helmet with no wrestling mask and no boxing gloves, of course! But how does he type with that viking helmet, anyway? Okay, I'm just being silly. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:31, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
::You'll note that Strong Bad didn't even put himself in the text adventure in the email. So I guess he's the player. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh, oh, Storng Bad. I don't know where he is!!! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Thy Dungeonman 3

2006-04-26T22:14:37Z

Totoro: commenting on "best dungeonman ever"

Okay, everybody, I have the benefit of being a timezone where it made sense to be awake when DMIII was released. Thus, I have started the article. This is my first ever HRWiki edit, so I tried not to be too ambitious. I'm sure you will have filled in the rest by the time I finish typing this. Thank you! [[User:Matthew McVickar|Matthew McVickar]] 10:26, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey everybody, this is the kid who made that one [http://s88340807.onlinehome.us/~bkr/archives/2004/02/24/thy_dungeonman_2_walkthrough.php walkthrough] for Thy Dungeonman II way back when. I was looking for a way to kill time between CS assignments at 2:00 AM and found that the Bros Chaps released a new Dungeonman game! Here is the basic sequence of steps: I know this awesome community will flesh it out. Thanks guys! [[User:The Lyrical Wondermind|The Lyrical Wondermind]] 10:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Best Dungeonman ever. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 12:09, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:I'll second this. This is the first one in the series that felt like a real Adventure-style game, rather than more of a series of jokes (not that there's anything wrong with series of jokes, either). | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 22:14, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

The useful word ''ganching'' has now entered my vocabulary. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

== Canonical name ==

I think these pages need to be moved to [[Thy Dungeonman 3]] (with the arabic numeral instead of the roman numeral). First of all, and most importantly, the actual title screen uses the numeral 3. In addition, the [[Videlectrix:videlectrix_catalog.html|game catalog]] lists a 3. I realize the [[Videlectrix:videlectrix_gallery.html|box art]] has a III, but that shouldn't outweigh what's displayed in the actual game, should it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:23, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:Probably not. Though they should be left as redirects. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 16:29, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::The first title one would normally see is the box title, not the in-game title. I'd leave it as is. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:32, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:::The only place it says III is on the box. ''Everywhere'' in the game it's referred to as 3. The updates button refers to it as 3. I vote for the move, keeping redirects. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:40, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Qermaq: I didn't think of this earlier, but most people wouldn't even ''see'' the box art (you have to dig around Videlectrix to find it), whereas everyone who plays the game will see the title screen. Therefore, people searching for the game here will be using a 3. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::The liberty TBC have taken with using roman/arabic numerals leads me to conclude that it's okay to use them interchangeably for this game. I would rather keep our counting method the same rather than duplicate what we see on the game's title screen. I would like it for us to have articles for Thy Dungeonman II and III, or Thy Dungeonman 2 and 3. I can't stand to see it both ways. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 19:38, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::I think it's more TBC's style to ''intentionally'' mix roman and arabic numerals. I think our need should be to get it right as it appears on the title screen, not by some arbitrary counting system. Coincidentally, it was I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Thy_Dungeonman_II&diff=157446&oldid=146992 who noticed] that Thy Dungeonman II's title screen uses a roman numeral. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:14, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Thy Dungeonman isn't the [[Wikipedia:Doom|only]] game [[Wikipedia:Descent (computer game)|series]] to use II and 3 in their game titles. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Also, we've got the nonmatching Duck Guardians ("[[Duck Guardian One|One]]" and "[[Duck Guardian 2|2]]"). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:38, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Aren't the Pentium procesors like that too? My computer runs on a III, but then there is Pentium 4, right? Pentium D and M also go in another direction. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 10:14, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

== fake blood, um i mean fake ketchup. ==

kinda funny, using fake ketchup for fake blood... {{User:Csours/sig}} 19:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
: Who said it was ''fake'' blood? The game never once even hints in that direction, and in fact hints that it's really blood multiple times. Though it never outright says it... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:18, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, it makes more sense as a joke that way. "Fake Blood" = Ketchup generally, so it stands to reason that "Fake Ketchup" = Blood. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:22, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::: OMG!!! it is full of cholesterol. ugghh. thou feelest very ill. {{User:Csours/sig}} 19:27, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

== Glitch ==

Umm... I am experiencing a problem. I have found the hag, and I correctly answer the first two questions. But no matter which of the four choices I choose for question three, I die. Whatith happenth? --{{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}} 19:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
: Use the version from Homestarrunner.com (rather than Videlectrix.com) or clear your cache. That's a known issue when she has four haglets. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:26, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, it ''is'' four for me. That's likely the problem. Thanks. Also, would I be able to load from my save after I clear the cache? --{{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}} 19:29, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:::You should. The saved games aren't part of your cache; they're cookies. You cache just saves a copy of every page you visit (within a certain size) so that they'll load faster later. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:32, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Hmm... Didn't seem to work. Clearing the cache is ''Shift + Reload'' for Firefox, right? --{{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}} 19:36, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Are you playing the game through Homestarrunner.com? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:39, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes. I noticed something even wierder when I cleared my cahce. Whenever I start a game, I start at the Hag. Noth! --{{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}} 19:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Oddly, that just happened to me a moment ago too. And I had the "fake ketchup" but zero points! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Maybe I should remove the H*R cookies... --{{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}} 19:47, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Hmm... I'll try playing in IE. --{{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}} 20:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I just played this today, and the hag wouldn't accept the correct answer, four haglets. Three was accepted though.--[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 15:36, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

== Huh? ==

For some strange reason, it starts me up at the hag clearing. I don't get that. Is my cookies messed? Oh no. Help me! {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 20:38, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:Happens to me too. Why'd you post this twice? [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 20:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::It's just a mistake on TBC's part. It'll probably be fixed real soon, so I suggest you find something else to play until they solve the problem. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:50, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I got it too. -[[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]]

== Pictures ==
Does anybody recognize any of the pictures from anywhere? Or did TBC stage/draw all of these scenes themselves? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 20:50, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:My guess-- they drew 'em. Or took pictures (for the people, I didn't get very far, ok?!) of themselves/friends.--[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 22:15, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:The vegetable cart man outside Westerburg is definitely based on Matt. I wouldn't be surprised if the pictures were just contrasted to look that way. But some of them were probably drawn. [[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 22:26, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
::The vegetable cart guy reminds me of Carrot Top. I wonder if he might be "Corn Top" or something, given that he's carting corn. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:46, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

== Older games like this? ==

I seem to remember playing a game like this in middle school about twelve years ago on an old Apple II (the game was probably old even then). It was 2D, and it sported a series of monochrome drawings (or maybe it was just the monitor that was monochrome, I dunno) and crude animation (two frames for walking). You were a guy exploring a castle, and you had to collect items and solve puzzles. I remember barely anything about it, except that you could go up and down stairs and I think one of the objects was a magic goblet. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? :p [[User:68.33.67.116|68.33.67.116]] 04:03, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

== Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy? ==

"'Corn in thy ear' is a reference to an episode of Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy (entitled Scrambled Ed) in which Ed says 'Do you have corn in your ears, mister?'"

Leaping to conclusions, much? Looks like a pretty simple play on the phrase "ear of corn" to me.

== Out of the X and into the Y ==

Seems to me that "Out of the dungeon and into the bile" is a reference to the chapter from The Hobbit, "Out of the frying pan and into the fire". [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 20:43, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
:That's a common phrase... --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 20:49, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

== Pirates! Reference ==

Hey, maybe it's just me, but isn't the ending screen very similar to the ending of Sid Meier's Pirates! (stupid games with puncuation in the titles)? If no one here knows what that game is, I'll get a pic with the ending text from it and link/post it here. --[[User:Neuromancer6|Neuromancer6]]
:Yea. It ''is'' a little like that. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 22:45, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

== Nebulon Reference ==

WHy did someone remove the nebulon reference? I thought that was pretty clear too, it wasn't me who wrote it.

:I removed it because the word "style" is mentioned many other times on Homestar Runner. Just a few examples: "[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|Quit bitin' my style!]]", [[Styles Upon Styles]], "[[technology|Strong Bad gots the style]]", [[Price Style]]. It wasn't a clear reference to [[New Boots]] or any of the examples I gave. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:01, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
::Wasn't there once a page about "Style" references? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== They Might Be Giants Reference ==
I don't know how best to put this into the Wiki... One of the game's responses is "I don't understand you. I cannot understand you. I don't understand a thing you say. I can't understand a single word." These are lyrics from They Might Be Giants' "Fingertips".
:Good catch! However, it is already noted in [[Thy Dungeonman 3#Real-World References]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:21, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
::Fingertips, I might add, is one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:47, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

==Death glitch?==
It seems that when you die and the continue sequence appears, it says "Press C to cnntinue." This may just be a glitch with my PC, or a purposeful thing, but it's definitely a "n" not an "o" [[User:Motor.on|Motor.on]] 00:39, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
:I get that too. It looks sort of like a cut off "o", but it also looks exactly like the n next to it. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 20:28, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

== II & 3 ==
Can we please make the two games labled as II & III or 2 & 3? Having them use seperate numerical systems looks... very inconsistant... and bad. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:50, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

:See conversation [[#Canonical name|here]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:53, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

== Behold Thy 5 1/4" Floppy Noise! ==

More specifically, that "floppy" noise is from an Apple II-series external floppy drive. (This does not include the Apple IIc or IIGS, which had internal drives.) And even more specifically, the drive would make that "sputtering" sound when the computer is first powered on or reset, or if there is no disk in the drive.

Which means, if TBC had wanted this to be more lifelike, they would have included a quieter sound where you could hear the drive power up and the head seeking back and forth across the disk. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:52, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

== Where is Storng Bad ==

Isn't thy dungeonman one of the games Strong Bad stars in, as his email says he does? Then where is he?
: Thy Dungeonman is what Strong Bad would look like if he looked like a muscular half-naked guy in a viking helmet with no wrestling mask and no boxing gloves, of course! But how does he type with that viking helmet, anyway? Okay, I'm just being silly. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:31, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
::You'll note that Strong Bad didn't even put himself in the text adventure in the email. So I guess he's the player. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh, oh, Storng Bad. I don't know where he is!!! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

lackey

2006-02-21T19:35:19Z

Totoro: /* Fast Forward */ senor->señor

{{sbenav|96|the bet|monument}}
[[Image:sbemail96.PNG|thumb|"So excited, so naive..."]]

Steve from Victoria, BC, wants to know why The Cheat is such a diligent lackey.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, [[Doreauxgard]], Puppet {{Film|Homestar Runner}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Strong Sad}} (DVD Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]]

'''Date:''' January 26, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 2:42

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386!!

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' So innocent and email-free.... That's you 'n me. ''{He pulls up the e-mail and reads it aloud.}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Hey, yo there Strong Bad! 
I was wondering why The Cheat is such 
a diligent lackey. Did you save his 
life one time and now he has to repay 
you? 
 
Steve 
Victoria, BC</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' BC? Whoa! This is an old freakin' email. Most of the emails I get are ADs. And the occasional JD. Wow. I wonder if it was written on, like, a stone tablet. Or maybe some, uh, papyrus. Anyhow... ''{Strong Bad clears the screen and continues typing.}'' No, Steve, The Cheat is a good lackey because he "knows what's best" and "doesn't want to get left by the side of the road during a thunderstorm" or "taped to Pom-Pom again." ''{He clears screen and continues typing.}'' It probably also has to do with the fact that I "treat him like a brother that's not Strong Sad" instead of a "little yellow squeaky thing that somethetimes steals my ladytypes." I also pay him real nice. Which isn't very difficult considering The Cheat "thinks pencil shavings are legal tender." Check it out...

''{Strong Bad sharpens a pencil with a small handheld sharpener.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Hey, The Cheat!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{walks in and makes a The Cheat noise}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Strong Bad waves his hand over the fresh pencil shavings.}'' I'll pay you all these precious pencil shavings if you go pilfer me a cantaloupe from Marzipan's melon patch.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises, then runs out}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Ahhhh, look at him go. So excited, so naive... ''{''Naive'' is said like the word "knave."}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat runs back in with a cantaloupe and makes another The Cheat noise}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, supa soivice! Thanks man. You can go back to whatever you were doin'.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{angry The Cheat noises while pointing to the pencil shavings}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, right. Your "payment." Here ya go! ''{Strong Bad scrapes pencil shavings onto The Cheat's head.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{grateful The Cheat noises}}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Awwww, that's almost adorable... Now, what am I gonna to do with all my tons of new stuff? A sharp pencil...and a can-ta-loo-pay. The possibilities are endless! I suppose I could use the pencil to draw a little guy on the cantaloupe. ''{mumbling while drawing}'' Ooh, and then if I jammed the cantaloupe on the end of the pencil... Hey everybody look! It's Doreauxgard! How ya doin', Do?

'''DOREAUXGARD:''' Hey, there, Mister Strong Bad! Well, I'm fine, past couple days though...

''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand with The Cheat.}''

'''BUBS:''' Your total comes out to fifteen tooty-two!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{makes a The Cheat noise while pushing the pencil shavings onto the counter.}''

'''BUBS:''' What's this malarkey?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{more The Cheat noises. He points to a sign saying: "We'll Gladly Accept: Cash, Money, or Cash Money." "Pencil shavings" has been added at the bottom.}''

'''BUBS:''' Well, if it's on the sign... Nice doin' business witchya!

''{The Cheat walks off with his new "Boy's Hobby Kit." Doreauxgard shows up}''

'''DOREAUXGARD:''' Hey, there, Mr. Bubs. I'm from the collection agency. You missed your last payment. Gonna have to bust your kneecaps if ya don't pay up!

'''BUBS:''' Oh, dag! You found me! ''{He slams down a metal shop gate, revealing "SB" graffiti.}''

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! Forgot about that one! I mean...

'''DOREAUXGARD:''' Sure is some niiice graffiti!

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on the top of the "[[Hollerin' Jimmy's Hobby Kit|boy's hobby kit]]" box when The Cheat is buying it to see what it says.
<pre> hollerin' jimmy's hobby kit
"We have no idea what's in this box!!"</pre>
*Click on the "SB" part of the graffiti to play a StrongBad Lib.
<pre>No, dan, the Cheat is a good lackey
because he "(active verb phrase (i.e. "does some stuff."))"
and "(negative active verb phrase (i.e. "doesn't do some stuff."))" or
"(active verb phrase)." It probably
also has to do with the fact that I
treat him "(comparison phrase (i.e. "like an idiot"))"
instead of a "(noun)."
I also pay him real nice. Which isn't
very difficult considering the Cheat
"(another stupid active verb phrase)."
Check it out.</pre>
*Click on Doreauxgard's head at the end to see a video of the "Homestar and Doreauxgard Show!"

=== Easter Egg Transcript ===
'''ANNOUNCER:''' The Homestar Runner and Doreauxgard Show! Brought to you by Hollerin' Jimmy Hobby Kits!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''': Hey, Doreauxgard! We've got our own show!

'''DOREAUXGARD:''' Boy, I'll say! I'm gonna be a star!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Nope. I'm afraid there's only one job for you on ''this'' show!

'''DOREAUXGARD:''' Well, lay it on me!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You have to be...the ''produce''-r! ''{Homestar and the audience laugh.}''

'''DOREAUXGARD:''' Forget you, Whitey! I'm going solo! ''{Doreauxgard walks off. Soon Homestar stops laughing.}''

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*When this email was first put up, you could click "Stone Tablet" and "Papyrus" to see fake emails written on said items. These have since been removed.
*In the StrongBad Libs Easter Egg, we can see Strong Bad's green tongue, introduced in [[Super NES]].
*The floppy disk container was accidentally placed behind the flash border, and cannot be read in the toon. Decompiling the flash file reveals the title to be "[[Floppy Disk Container#maniac mansion|maniac mansion]]".

===Goofs===
*Strong Bad misspells [[Pom Pom]]. (He spells it with a hyphen.)
*When Doreauxgard is in front of [[Compy 386]], you can't see the contrast buttons.
*When Strong Bad contemplates what to do with his sharp pencil and cantaloupe, you can see another pencil behind Strong Bad's head. The pencil is resting on the keyboard, which is where Strong Bad was holding it earlier in the e-mail.

===Inside References===
*When The Cheat is buying the hobby kit, Bubs says, "and that comes out to fifteen-[[Tooty-two]]," which is an [[Inside Jokes|inside joke]].
*When Strong Bad says The Cheat doesn't want to be taped to Pom Pom again he is referring to the e-mail [[your friends]].
*In the Strong Lib easter egg, it calls the author of the email [[Dan]].

===Real-World References===
*"JD" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Julian day| ''Julian Date'']], an astronomical dating system that counts the total days from January 1, 4713 BC (for example, January 26, 2004 AD is 2453031 JD).
*Strong Bad's remark about "super service" (in a Brooklyn accent) is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]] short [http://www.stoogeworld.com/_Videography/Filmography/ViolentCurly.htm ''Violent is the Word for Curly'']

===Fast Forward===
*Doreauxgard is an actual cantaloupe in the Easter egg, but [[The Brothers Chaps]] later created an actual Doreauxgard puppet with a moving mouth that has not been used on the site but can be seen in their Comcast interview.
*The Strong Bad Libs version of Strong Bad would later be seen in [[pop-up]], as "Señor Muybueno".

== DVD Version ==
*The Boy's Hobby Kit Easter egg is viewable using the angle button on your DVD remote.
*The Homestar Runner and Doreauxgard Show Easter egg is now fullscreen and in much higher quality video. It also adds a tiny bit of additional footage to the end (though sans any dialogue).
*The Strong Libs Easter egg now has Strong Sad moderating a Strong Lib and Strong Bad reluctantly playing.
===Transcript===
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Awww, don't make me do this thing! They're only funny when you're, like, 4 years old.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' No, we're gonna do it, and it's gonna be great! ''{booklet flips to page two}'' OK, I need an active verb phrase.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Uhm... "brings the noise"

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{He writes "brings the noise" in.}'' ''{voiceover}'' OK, now I need a negative active verb phrase.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' "Never takes two."

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{He writes in "never takes two."}'' ''{voiceover}'' O-kay... Uh, another active verb phrase.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Uh, let me think about it, "gets busy."

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{He writes in "gets busy."}'' ''{voiceover}'' OK. A comparison phrase. You know, like "like an idiot."

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' "Like a beard."

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{He writes in "like a beard."}'' ''{voiceover}'' What? Oh, OK, I need a noun.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' "Throat lozenge."

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{He writes in "throat lozenge."}'' ''{voiceover}'' All right, and finally, one more active verb phrase.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' I can't think of anymore!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{He writes in "can't think of anymore."}'' OK! Great! Let's see how it turned out! ''{turns page}'' "A Strong Bad Email. No, dan, the Cheat is a good lackey because he 'brings the noise' and 'never takes two' or 'gets busy.'" You see, that's... You told me to write that.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover, irritated}'' I know! Hurry up and finish!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Oh! "It probably also has to do with the fact that I treat him 'like a beard' instead of a 'throat lozenge.'" You see, that's good, you see, you wouldn't... you'd rather be treated like—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover, angry}'' Come on!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' "I also pay him real nice. Which isn't very difficult considering that the Cheat 'can't think of anymore.' Check it out." See, that turned out pretty good! Strong Bad?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover, more distant}'' I'm already playing Nintendo in the other room!

===Fun Facts===
*"Brings the noise" is likely a reference to the Public Enemy song "Bring the Noise."
*Oddly enough, Strong Sad writes the phrases in Strong Bad's handwriting.

== External Links ==
{{preforumsbemailextlinks|96}}*[[HR:sbemail96_puppet.swf|view the Flash file for the puppet short]]
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Puppet Stuff]]

Talk:technology

2006-02-03T20:27:06Z

Totoro: /* Catacombs */

==Extrapolates voice==
"extrapolates voice"? I, uh, don't think that word means what you think it means.
I'd correct it, but I can't think of anything better than "adopts a high-pitched voice"

Oh, and also, I've actually seen "Computers don't BYTE" posters. In the back of libraries, where even the librarians don't go anymore.

==Endless Square?==
*That doesn't seem right. It looks the the screen saver alternates between turning left and right, making it an endless zig-zag. And that doesn't seem to be worth mentioning. ~Ostrichburger
**I concur, and I changed it to indicate alternating left/right. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
*Take a better look. Its actually just one corridor like end----end with the camera turning around to go back the other way. And, if you think about it, this actually makes a bit more sense from an sbemail humor standpoint. ~SuperKawaiiNeko
** I agree with that - JamesDean

==Has anyone tried...==
*To decode what Strong Bad was saying in binary?[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 15:29, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
**You could. [http://nickciske.com/tools/binary.php This] is a handy web-based utility. Short of decoding it yourself. ;) {{User:The Paper/sig}} 15:31, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
***Actually, that doesn't work because Strong Bad doesn't say a number of characters divisable by 8, so all the decoder is doing is adding 0's to make up for the lack of bits. And could whoever put the translation specify which coding you are using? eaglescout1984 30 Jan 2006 15:40 GMT
***Actually ASCII is 7 bit system. -- Crowther
****Well, I'm still trying to find out if he is saying anything. I get lost, though. I have this so far: 1001101 means...m.[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 15:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
*****I don't have time to try again but I got 9945 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 213 + 210 + 29 + 27 + 26 24 + 23 + 20 = {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
******I don't think it adds up to anything now. I've used all of those programs, and they just come out with mainly this:�.[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 15:46, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
*******If you're using Windows, just open up Calculator, put it in Scientific mode, switch to Binary, enter 1001101101100, then switch it to Decimal mode again. It confirms that Strong Bad's binary translates to 9945 in decimal.
*******That said, I don't think his binary speak means anything in particular. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:21, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
**For that matter, has anyone decoded what Strong Bad said in Semaphore? Or was he even doing real semaphore? -Ed
***Well, in Morse code, it's EMITEAUN if zero is a dot; TIMETNGA if zero is a dash. --[[User:Sgleason|S Gleason]] 04:51, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==Homestar Flying==
*Why on earth does homestar fly up the left side of the screen? What's that all about? [[User:dayve_57|dayve_57]]
**I'm not sure--it seemed to be more of a glitch than something done intentionally. Unless it was a callback to [[virus]]. TBC have a habit of referencing their older cartoons. [[User:Bruce|Bruce]]
:::I'm pretty sure it was just a joke. The way Homestar Runner said "four" made it seem like it was done intentionally. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:47, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I think it was just a little addition to the ridicul-ous way he raised his pitch.--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 20:52, 30 January
2006 (UTC)
:::::It has to be intentional, not a glitch, because Bubs' eyes follow Homestar up as he flies away. And how could it be a reference to [[virus]]? [[User:dayve_57|dayve_57]]
::::::I bet he was raised by wireless wires. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:49, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::If TBC wanted it to be a reference to virus, they would have made Homestar with The Homestar Runner's body, they would have made his head come off, and they would have made those weird shadowy things appear behind him. It's probably just your everyday Homestar randomness. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::haha... I thought so. Everyday randomness, indeed![[User:dayve_57|dayve_57]]
:::::::::I was thinking maybe it has something to do with the way that Strong Bad rises up also when he says "I'll be your best friend!" Maybe they had SB rise up when he spoke in a higher pitch and in a sing-song tone, so they thought it would be funny if Homestar flew up when he spoke particularly high and sing-song. There's my theory. --Der Pepper
::::::::::Nah...it obviously has something to do with wireless extension cords.--vl-tone

Just curious, did anyone see anything strange on the .swf file before it got black-boardered? -- Nobody Important (NI)

The way he flies up also kind of looks like that glitch in Double Dragon where you can get people to fly up off the screen.

== The Amber Screen ==

The screen in whihc Strong Bad describes how to select an email address is coloured Amber. this is a reference to a time in the mid 80's when Amber replaced green as the principle colour for monochrome screens. It was supposed to reduce eye strain or something.
--"Creepy Pants man"

I remember we had one of those amber monochrome screens.. Well, I was pretty little. I remember it being quite like that - that same color, with the diagonal-ish lines going up it.
No, I don't remember what year this would be.. probably very early 90's. (Probably just happened to have one.)
-- [[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 01:46, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I would add that it's similar to the Tandy SB used to have. -- User who doesn't want to tell you his name (UWDWTTYHN)

The [http://oldcomputers.net/compaqiii.html Compaq Portable III] had an amber screen. Sigh ... ahhhhhh, for the good old days! -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 17:00, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== Clarke's Third Law ==

It seems to me that Strongbad was referencing ''Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law'' with:

''The word technology... means... magic. It's basically anything that's really cool that you don't know how it works. And if it breaks, you have to buy a new one. Why, I've got some technology beneath my pants right now! Whoo-ya!''

''''Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law:''''
''Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.''

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_Third_Law Arthur C. Clarke's Laws]

--Kitsula

:Oh. I just plain added the thing just now. Incidentally, although I didn't include it, it's even more similar to [http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff300/fv00255.htm this corollary]. - [[User:Octan|Octan]] Jan 30 2006, 3:44PM EST

==Catacombs==

When SB said "catacombs," the first thing I thought of was the second dungeon in the original Bard's Tale game, which used the first-person viewpoint as well. I'm sure other games had tombs/catacombs as well, since it's a standard RPG element. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:54, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:I was instantly reminded of DungeonQuest, with the Catacombs expansion pack. The screen saver itself resembles a first-person perspective of an extremely boring game of DungeonQuest (no catacombs). -Ed

::Yeah, but the screen saver itself is just a clone of "3D Maze", which was one of a series of free 3D screen savers supplied with Win98. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:::What about adding a bullet along the lines of "Catacombs were a common setting for dungeons in 1980s RPGs, such as the Bard's Tale and DungeonQuest." The 1980s might be superfluous, since tombs and catacombs are still popular settings in RPGs, but the feel of that screensaver is very '80s, and TBC love to make references to '80s games. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 00:34, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::The "feel" of the screensaver may be '80s, but that would be a very incorrect reference - that screensaver didn't exist until '96 or '97. (Besides, I doubt you'd find an RPG-style catacomb made up of brick walls.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:36, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::I never said that the screensaver was actually from the '80s. The point is that the choice of the word "catacombs" was probably a deliberate reference to one or more 1980s games. "Catacombs" isn't exactly a word in the common vernacular, and as you said, it's odd that Strong Bad would refer to a maze of brick walls as catacombs unless TBC were referring to something specific. | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 20:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

I remember having that screensaver when I was a kid.--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 20:55, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:I remember an uncle or somebody having an old computer (not amber-screen or green-screen old, but still) with a game like this, it was a giant, brick wall maze game. Forgot the name, though. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

==I can make mine say oboe shoes!==
Heh. Does anyone else like it when TBC refrence calculator words in such a funny way?
So, one time, in third grade, I remember a few kids typing

7734

on the calculators, and then turned them upside down. As you may of guessed, the H word was on the calculator screen. Very amusing. Especially when we could spell our teacher's first name on the
calculator. Weird. So does anybody like calculator words? - Oopsyoubwokeit (not logged in)
:It's a pretty common thing... I've done it before, but I don't particularily like it... - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
::Calculator talk is fun. There's 55378008, 58008, 0.7734, and a lot more I can't remember right now. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]] 21:39, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Some Hebrew words can be typed on a calculator to! like 71070 or 7109179 (no need to turn it upside down for it!) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
::It's very similar to 1337. Now they have those calculators that type letters, though. Boo...--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 11:28, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh, those are awesome! My friend has a TI one (the same kind that the calculator-drawn The Cheat was drawn on a long time ago) and we type notes back and forth in math on it. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

== The Cheatbot ==

I'm not going to STUFF this because it'd probably get denied right away, and I'm definitely not going to just add it to the email's fun facts list because it'd be taken off right away. In fact, I'm not even sure if this qualifies as a fun fact...it's fun to me, at least. Anyway, might could Strong Bad's mentioning of robot's purpose (other than destroying Japan) to be to serve hors d'œuvres be a reference to the first scene of The Second Renaissance? Just think about. And no, I'm not going to put a Wikipedia link to it, it's only worth discussing if you've actually seen TSR. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 22:32, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:If by "Second Renaissance", you're referring to episodes 2 and 3 of Animatrix, then I know what you're talking about. And I think that's a stretch - the idea of service robots that can do all sorts of menial tasks has been around much much longer. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:15, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:PS: Just like when you were making fun of my name, I still think you're making things a lot harder on yourself with all that excess verbiage there. You know how much harder it is to type all that than just to type <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Animatrix|Animatrix]]</nowiki>? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:15, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

::Yes...I do. I do indeed, KieferSkunk. And do ''you'' know how much harder it is to type a message telling someone to type less in their messages on Homestar Runner Wiki talk pages, which is a decision that doesn't affect you or anyone else other than the one who types the message, than to type nothing at all, which is what would be better for everyone? And what else would I mean by ''Second Renaissance'' than the Animated Matrix episodes? I wouldn't care to hazard a guess. Plus, the only examples of fiction I can think of with robots that serve orderves are the 2nd Ren-sawnce, and <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Clone High|Clone High</nowiki>]]. And I'm guessing Strong Bad wouldn't be referencing old Mr. Butlertron. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:12, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Eh, it's not that hard for me. I type at over 100 WPM. That's not the point, though - I'm just trying to suggest ways to be less laborious and to allow yourself to be taken more seriously (at least in my opinion - I obviously don't speak for everyone). When I see "I'm not gonna bother to look this up, just gonna spew it out anyway", I see someone who is making a point of being lazy, and most of the time I tend to skip over the entirety of what they said as a result. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:24, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:::As for the last part of that: See [[Template:STUFF/technology|STUFF]] for quite a few examples of servant robots. It's pretty much gotten into TTATOT territory by now. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:24, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

==Email Song==
Does the email song sound familiar to anyone else? I tried googling some of the key words to figure out which song it comes from, but no luck. It reminds me of something I've heard on a classic rock station though. Maybe fleetwood mac? --[[User:Racerx is Alive|racerx_is_alive]] 22:35, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I can't put my finger on it, but it isn't Fleetwood Mac (the closest I can come up with in this vein is that it shares a similar sort of tone to "The Chain", but not an actual series of notes or lyrics). [[User:Yaztromo|Yaztromo]] 11:25, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==Schrödinger's cat?==

I'm not sure, so I didn't want to add this as a fun fact, and I didn't feel like going through all the STUFF stuff. Anyway, does anyone else think that the half alive/half dead goat is a reference to schrodinger's cat? [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 00:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:No, I don't. {{unsigned|220.237.71.13|01:21, 31 January 2006 (UTC)}}
::I think it's possible - here's the Wikipedia article: [[Wikipedia:Schrödinger's cat|Schrodinger's Cat]]. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:25, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I's more of a reference to "Is the glass half empty or half full?", that psycological question used to determine if someone is optimistic or pessimistic. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:58, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::'''Second''' -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 16:55, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
The question on the paper is a reference to the glass half empty quesiton. It's a pretty big stretch to say it's a reference to Schrodinger's Cat, though I'll admit it does have some connections. And Schrodinger's Goat would be pretty funny. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 07:50, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== Digits of Pi ==

I don't entirely like the sentence "The number on the solar calculator, 3.14, is the most common representation of pi." under the fun facts heading. Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but 3.14 is not a representation of pi, it is a representation of the number 3.14 which is not pi. Perhaps a better sentence could be something of the form "The number on the solar calculator, 3.14, is the first few digits of pi".
:Perhaps "most common approximation" might work better? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 03:58, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::I agree and have just changed it. -[[User:Polly|Polly]] 06:24, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Approximation is a better word, thanks. I do think "representation" is a correct word, as that's what most people think pi is, or at least what most people use when doing formulas with pi by hand. (It's also what a lot of math textbooks tell you to use.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:45, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Or worse, they would tell you to use 22/7, which is only 3.14 truncated and is nowhere near pi. However, most [[Wikipedia:Texas Instruments|TI calculators]] use ''3.141592654'' for best approximation when graphing or calculating circles. I agree with you both, as no matter how many digits you calculate to, it is still an approximate value. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 16:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yeah. As far as I know, pi goes on forever. Also, I just opened Windows Calculator. Seems using 22/7 is a very bad idea, as that number is actually ''bigger'' than pi. As far as I know, pi is irrational--there's no fraction that exactly equals it. -[[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 01:38, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

==Cell phone movie festival==
Hey, when was this email released? Because if it was after 5 am, we've got another case of creepy last-minute coincidence between a real-world broadcast and a sbemail (granted, NPR ain't Family Guy): check out [http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5175556 this report on Morning Edition] about a guy writing, directing, and producing a movie on his cell phone... and hoping to win a festival. At any rate, the [http://www.cellflixfestival.org/ festival itself] might merit mention. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:56, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Great leaping ocelots, that's amazing! Nice find! --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

==Forward Right...==
*The screensaver goes in an endless loop of Forward, Right, Forward, Left, as shown here:

<code> ---- end
|
|---- end
| |
end |---- end
| |
end |...</code>
I don't think it goes like this. It looks to me like its forward right, forward right, in a big square. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:02, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:It seems to turn randomly left or right to me... - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 05:08, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Maybe the behavior is different at different times or for different people? It looks to me like a movie clip, but there could be more code in there than that. Every time I've watched it, though, it's gone left/right/left/right, etc. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:47, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah I saw it go left/right/left/right... too. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:17, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I just realized that the little picture up there is correct, but if you were actually walking across those lines, it would be right,forward,right,forward. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:58, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== .swf changed. ==

The .swf file has changed from the original to completly black around the primary screen. {{User:Count X/sig}}
:Yeah, someone mentioned that somewheres. This and death metal, I think are like that. {{User:Salty/sig}} 13:35, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

== Worthless screensaver ==

That Screen Saver that Strong Bad is so proud of isn't gonna do the job. Anyone who has gone to an arcade can tell you about machines where the words "Game Over" or "Insert Coin(s)" has been literaly burned either into the glass or onto the colored mesh of the display. This is visible even when playing the game. HOWEVER, the point of a screen saver is to consistantly change the colors of these pixels so that the screen never has a chance of getting burned. While he's running his saver, the bottom part of the maze (probably about 3" of his screen) is always that dark yellowish color. Surely that would get burned into his screen if he runs it too long. -[[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 17:05, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:That's true.. however, the Lappy has an LCD screen. Can LCDs get burn-in? -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 20:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Nope. LCD panels don't burn-in. Plus, most CRT screens these days have built-in protection against burn-in. It's not to say that they will NEVER burn in, but a screen saver like that would be unlikely to cause burn-in even on a CRT screen. It has partly to do with the contrast and brightness of the screen, partly to do with the intensity of the colors, and also the specific technology the CRT is using. Older CRTs, like in the arcade games, and cheaper CRTs not of computer-monitor grade, are more likely to burn-in simply due to those factors. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 21:02, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::LCDs don't burn like normal CRTs because they're made differently. They can, however, be damaged by direct sunlight or physical abuse (heh, what can't?). I wasn't arguing that his screen would get burned, I'm just saying that as far as screen savers go, this one's bunk. [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 05:08, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

::: You would think that the point of a screen saver would be to constantly change pixel colors, wouldn't you? But unfortunately the real point of all too many of them is simply to get you to download the screen saver, or to visit the website where it's hosted, or to purchase the product it's bundled with; what happens after that, they doesn't care. Probably more people use them for entertainment than for monitor upkeep. Think about all those stupid "aquariums" you've seen where the ocean floor is essentially constant. So Strong Bad's screen saver is, in fact, an accurate representation: looks interesting, but does nothing (or makes matters worse). {{User:Bill Martinson/sig}} 14:28, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Yeah pretty much what Bill Martinson (wb!) says is pretty much right on the money. Case in point: my labmate has a cool-looking screensaver of this futuristic looking room with a flame in the center. Only the flame colors move. Nowadays I think the need for screensavers has been reduced significantly by that (sometimes) nice powersave feature modern monitors have. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:58, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad knows it's a Floppy Disk ==

In email #75 ("funny") he says "I can tape a floppy disk to my forehead". It's a 3.5" floppy. Just thought I'd point that out.
:Ooh. Now that's an observation worthy of a remark if ever there was one. Nice figuring. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== The Screensaver in general. ==

The screensaver is an obvious reference to the 3D Maze screensaver on windows 95 and later (I don't think it's on XP though), so why was my addition deleted? - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 05:01, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:Your edit was reverted because that reference was already listed near the top of the Real World References. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:10, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Damn, I always do that (by accident) - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 08:15, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

== .5 or ½ ==

When refuring to floppy disk shouldn't their size be in fractions? For example 3½" floppy instead of 3.5" floppy. – [[User:Zntrip|Zntrip]] 05:16, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:I see 3.5 much more often that 3½ - [[User:Aaronstj|Aaronstj]] 09:19, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:Both are acceptable, and 3.5 is much easier to type. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 15:42, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
On [[Wikipedia:Floppy|Wikipedia]] its written as "5¼-inch" and "3½-inch". So I thought I would ask. – [[User:Zntrip|Zntrip]] 23:33, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
::Fixed. Wow, that's the biggest contribution I've made to the wiki yet! ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 02:11, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::I disagree with the validity of this change. Unless you can find a unicode or symbol code for "one-half", I don't recommend using it over decimal places. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 02:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
::::You can use &#188; and &#189; (the unicode values for the symbols already being used) <s>but there's no real advantage of them over the straight-up ¼ and ½, and they're harder to read in the wiki source</s>... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:06, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Wait... there's &frac12; and &frac14; – perhaps we should use them. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:09, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::We could indeed. It's probably eaisier to recognize anyway. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:53, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Well, it's good to see that at least my change wasn't reverted. You have no idea how discouraging it is when that happens, especially when you think you've made a valid contribution. We're told to "be bold" when editing articles, but... ~[[User:Bruce|Bruce]]
::::::::Don't feel bad, Bruce. It takes time to "settle in". :) By being bold, you learn how to distinguish good edits from bad ones. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:45, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== Cell Phone Videos ==

It seems to be at least worth mentioning that the President's of the United States vdieo for Some Postman was indeed filmed entirely with cell phone cameras, specifically 12 Sony Ericsson K750i [[User:Aaronstj|Aaronstj]] 09:17, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== Hard Disk Description ==
isn't this a bit wordy and irrelevant. i always thought the difference between a hard disk and a floppy is that the read/write heads and contol circutry all come in a case with the disk platters for a hard disk not that the disk is internal and immovable, for example the Amiga 1200 had an optional external hard disk that was completely removable back in the early 1990's. A floppy is a floppy because its basically the disk platter in a protective sleve, with none of the technology required to read the data included with it.
:Technically, the term "hard disk" refers to the actual media itself. Floppy disks consist of a thin disk of flexible magnetic material (hence the name "floppy"), whereas a "hard disk" is just that: A hard, inflexible platter. A hard drive is a hermetically sealed box with the platters inside in order to protect the disk from dust and moisture (both of which can impede performance and even damage the media). And the HDD is usually non-removable because moving the unit around while it's turned on can cause alignment problems. Gyroscopic forces can also cause damage to the platter and the read-write heads, since the platters are usually always spinning. Hope this helps. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:27, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

==Whos that stupid?==
"You cannot actually fold a 5.25" floppy disk to make it work in a 3.5" drive. Attempting to do so will destroy the media." come on. you have to have an IQ to know that it wont work.i think it shoudl be deleted. {{unsigned|Darkstalker|}}
:You'd be surprised! There are COUNTLESS records of people doing stuff just like that - see [http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_drives.shtml The Computer Stupidities Website] for some examples. I used to work in a computer lab myself, and I saw people doing this sort of thing with my own eyes. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:27, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
::Skunk I love you! You just gave me hours of reading and fun. I can't wait to show this to my wife. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 23:43, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Glad to be of service! :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:36, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::::<blockquote>The night operator, apparently not sure if the problem was with the drive or the disc pack, stuffed the pack into the next drive in line, crashing that one, too, as the heads encountered the plowed-up aluminum from the first crash. He then proceeded to put that increasingly lethal pack into every single drive in the room, in some instances physically ripping the heads from their brackets.</blockquote>
::::Nice! Just absolutely NICE! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:15, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yeah! Actually, I didn't know it would destroy the media. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:42, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::I see anony's point about the obviousness of this fact, but the reason I think it should stay is precisely because of people who do crapfully crappy things like that above. Besides, for those of us who know better, it just gives us a chance to laugh at those who don't. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 03:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Quite. ''stupid is as stupid does'' {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:05, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::oops forgot to add my sig...im not an annony lol i just think that putting that remark isnt really neccassary. -[[User:Darkstalker|Darkstalker]]

== The computer in the poster takes 5¼ disks ==

Not only does folding a large disk to fit it into the drive not work at all, but the computer pictured on the poster that he holds the folded disk up to appears to have two 5¼" drives on the front, not 3½", so Strong Bad wouldn't even need to fold it. ~Garglfluz doesn't know how to do sigs

He said "New computers", not "Computers like the one in this poster". ~[[User:That crazy DumDe!|DumDe]] 10:56, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:Strong Bad actually said "'''these''' new computers" from what I could hear, and clearly indicated the computer in the picture (by pointing at it with the disk). Maybe I'm just arguing semantics, but I think Garglfluz's argument is valid. ~[[User:Bruce|Bruce]]

:[[Help:Signature|how to create sigs]] ~{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:07, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::My guess is the lappy takes 3.5" disks and he may be referring to that computer or computers like it since the lappy is "new technology" for him. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:54, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== Nalgene ==

Pom Pom is not using a Nalgene because Nalgenes have flat sides. Once you zoom in it is obvious that this is not the case and that Pom Pom is drinking a store bought bottled water. - [[User:BlackWidower|BlackWidower]] 14:27, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

:All Nalgene bottles do not have flat sides. See [http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/ their website] for examples. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:30, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

::Whoops, you didn't mean flat as in rectangular prism, you meant flat as in a smooth cylinder. Yeah, it has a bumpy texture and that lends me to believe it is not a Nalgene. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:33, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Talk:technology

2006-01-31T00:34:02Z

Totoro: /* Catacombs */ a suggestion

"extrapolates voice"? I, uh, don't think that word means what you think it means.
I'd correct it, but I can't think of anything better than "adopts a high-pitched voice"

Oh, and also, I've actually seen "Computers don't BYTE" posters. In the back of libraries, where even the librarians don't go anymore.

==Endless Square?==
*That doesn't seem right. It looks the the screen saver alternates between turning left and right, making it an endless zig-zag. And that doesn't seem to be worth mentioning. ~Ostrichburger
**I concur, and I changed it to indicate alternating left/right. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

==Has anyone tried...==
*To decode what Strong Bad was saying in binary?[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 15:29, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
**You could. [http://nickciske.com/tools/binary.php This] is a handy web-based utility. Short of decoding it yourself. ;) {{User:The Paper/sig}} 15:31, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
***Actually, that doesn't work because Strong Bad doesn't say a number of characters divisable by 8, so all the decoder is doing is adding 0's to make up for the lack of bits. And could whoever put the translation specify which coding you are using? eaglescout1984 30 Jan 2006 15:40 GMT
***Actually ASCII is 7 bit system. -- Crowther
****Well, I'm still trying to find out if he is saying anything. I get lost, though. I have this so far: 1001101 means...m.[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 15:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
*****I don't have time to try again but I got 9945 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 213 + 210 + 29 + 27 + 26 24 + 23 + 20 = {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
******I don't think it adds up to anything now. I've used all of those programs, and they just come out with mainly this:�.[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 15:46, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
*******If you're using Windows, just open up Calculator, put it in Scientific mode, switch to Binary, enter 1001101101100, then switch it to Decimal mode again. It confirms that Strong Bad's binary translates to 9945 in decimal.
*******That said, I don't think his binary speak means anything in particular. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:21, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
**For that matter, has anyone decoded what Strong Bad said in Semaphore? Or was he even doing real semaphore? -Ed

==Homestar Flying==
*Why on earth does homestar fly up the left side of the screen? What's that all about? [[User:dayve_57|dayve_57]]
**I'm not sure--it seemed to be more of a glitch than something done intentionally. Unless it was a callback to [[virus]]. TBC have a habit of referencing their older cartoons. [[User:Bruce|Bruce]]
:::I'm pretty sure it was just a joke. The way Homestar Runner said "four" made it seem like it was done intentionally. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:47, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I think it was just a little addition to the ridicul-ous way he raised his pitch.--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 20:52, 30 January
2006 (UTC)
:::::It has to be intentional, not a glitch, because Bubs' eyes follow Homestar up as he flies away. And how could it be a reference to [[virus]]? [[User:dayve_57|dayve_57]]

== The Amber Screen ==

The screen in whihc Strong Bad describes how to select an email address is coloured Amber. this is a reference to a time in the mid 80's when Amber replaced green as the principle colour for monochrome screens. It was supposed to reduce eye strain or something.
--"Creepy Pants man"

== Clarke's Third Law ==

It seems to me that Strongbad was referencing ''Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law'' with:

''The word technology... means... magic. It's basically anything that's really cool that you don't know how it works. And if it breaks, you have to buy a new one. Why, I've got some technology beneath my pants right now! Whoo-ya!''

''''Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law:''''
''Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.''

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_Third_Law Arthur C. Clarke's Laws]

--Kitsula

:Oh. I just plain added the thing just now. Incidentally, although I didn't include it, it's even more similar to [http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff300/fv00255.htm this corollary]. - [[User:Octan|Octan]] Jan 30 2006, 3:44PM EST

==Catacombs==

When SB said "catacombs," the first thing I thought of was the second dungeon in the original Bard's Tale game, which used the first-person viewpoint as well. I'm sure other games had tombs/catacombs as well, since it's a standard RPG element. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:54, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:I was instantly reminded of DungeonQuest, with the Catacombs expansion pack. The screen saver itself resembles a first-person perspective of an extremely boring game of DungeonQuest (no catacombs). -Ed

::Yeah, but the screen saver itself is just a clone of "3D Maze", which was one of a series of free 3D screen savers supplied with Win98. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:::What about adding a bullet along the lines of "Catacombs were a common setting for dungeons in 1980s RPGs, such as the Bard's Tale and DungeonQuest." The 1980s might be superfluous, since tombs and catacombs are still popular settings in RPGs, but the feel of that screensaver is very '80s, and TBC love to make references to '80s games. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 00:34, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I remember having that screensaver when I was a kid.--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 20:55, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

==I can make mine say oboe shoes!==
Heh. Does anyone else like it when TBC refrence calculator words in such a funny way?
So, one time, in third grade, I remember a few kids typing

7734

on the calculators, and then turned them upside down. As you may of guessed, the H word was on the calculator screen. Very amusing. Especially when we could spell our teacher's first name on the
calculator. Weird. So does anybody like calculator words? - Oopsyoubwokeit (not logged in)
:It's a pretty common thing... I've done it before, but I don't particularily like it... - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
::Calculator talk is fun. There's 55378008, 58008, 0.7734, and a lot more I can't remember right now. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]] 21:39, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== The Cheatbot ==

I'm not going to STUFF this because it'd probably get denied right away, and I'm definitely not going to just add it to the email's fun facts list because it'd be taken off right away. In fact, I'm not even sure if this qualifies as a fun fact...it's fun to me, at least. Anyway, might could Strong Bad's mentioning of robot's purpose (other than destroying Japan) to be to serve hors d'œuvres be a reference to the first scene of The Second Renaissance? Just think about. And no, I'm not going to put a Wikipedia link to it, it's only worth discussing if you've actually seen TSR. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 22:32, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:If by "Second Renaissance", you're referring to episodes 2 and 3 of Animatrix, then I know what you're talking about. And I think that's a stretch - the idea of service robots that can do all sorts of menial tasks has been around much much longer. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:15, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:PS: Just like when you were making fun of my name, I still think you're making things a lot harder on yourself with all that excess verbiage there. You know how much harder it is to type all that than just to type <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Animatrix|Animatrix]]</nowiki>? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:15, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

==Email Song==
Does the email song sound familiar to anyone else? I tried googling some of the key words to figure out which song it comes from, but no luck. It reminds me of something I've heard on a classic rock station though. Maybe fleetwood mac? --[[User:Racerx is Alive|racerx_is_alive]] 22:35, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk:technology

2006-01-30T19:54:01Z

Totoro: Catacombs

==Has anyone tried...==
*To decode what Strong Bad was saying in binary?[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 15:29, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
**You could. [http://nickciske.com/tools/binary.php This] is a handy web-based utility. Short of decoding it yourself. ;) {{User:The Paper/sig}} 15:31, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
***Actually, that doesn't work because Strong Bad doesn't say a number of characters divisable by 8, so all the decoder is doing is adding 0's to make up for the lack of bits. And could whoever put the translation specify which coding you are using? eaglescout1984 30 Jan 2006 15:40 GMT
****Well, I'm still trying to find out if he is saying anything. I get lost, though. I have this so far: 1001101 means...m.[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 15:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
*****I don't have time to try again but I got 9945 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 213 + 210 + 29 + 27 + 26 24 + 23 + 20 = {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
******I don't think it adds up to anything now. I've used all of those programs, and they just come out with mainly this:�.[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 15:46, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
*******If you're using Windows, just open up Calculator, put it in Scientific mode, switch to Binary, enter 1001101101100, then switch it to Decimal mode again. It confirms that Strong Bad's binary translates to 9945 in decimal.
*******That said, I don't think his binary speak means anything in particular. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:21, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

==Homestar Flying==
*Why on earth does homestar fly up the left side of the screen? What's that all about? [[User:dayve_57|dayve_57]]
**I'm not sure--it seemed to be more of a glitch than something done intentionally. Unless it was a callback to [[virus]]. TBC have a habit of referencing their older cartoons. [[User:Bruce|Bruce]]
:::I'm pretty sure it was just a joke. The way Homestar Runner said "four" made it seem like it was done intentionally. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:47, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== The Amber Screen ==

The screen in whihc Strong Bad describes how to select an email address is coloured Amber. this is a reference to a time in the mid 80's when Amber replaced green as the principle colour for monochrome screens. It was supposed to reduce eye strain or something.
--"Creepy Pants man"

== Clarke's Third Law ==

It seems to me that Strongbad was referencing ''Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law'' with:

''The word technology... means... magic. It's basically anything that's really cool that you don't know how it works. And if it breaks, you have to buy a new one. Why, I've got some technology beneath my pants right now! Whoo-ya!''

''''Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law:''''
''Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.''

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_Third_Law Arthur C. Clarke's Laws]

--Kitsula

==Catacombs==

When SB said "catacombs," the first thing I thought of was the second dungeon in the original Bard's Tale game, which used the first-person viewpoint as well. I'm sure other games had tombs/catacombs as well, since it's a standard RPG element. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:54, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Television Sightings

2006-01-27T21:00:09Z

Totoro: /* Good Eats */ another response

==Grainy Screencaps==
Sorry about the grainy screencaps. Buffy, Angel, and Zim will soon have clean DVD screencaps once I finish with some schoolwork. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:22, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

== Foster's ==

This show has 4 documented sightings, so I think the creators are H*R fans hiding it. The other H*R fans just find it.[[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

*I saw an episode of Foster's that I don't know what it was called (Comcast calls it The Big Leblooski, but it's not always right), about bowling, and learning how to bowl, and half the plot was that Bloo was trying to win a paddleball at a crane machine. But one of the things in the crane looked suspiciously like a Strong Bad head... but not exactly like it. I don't have a screenshot, and because it wasn't totally like SB, it may have been a coincedence, so I didn't put it on. If anyone else has seen this episode, please tell me if you noticed this resemblance (or the object in question). --[[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]] 04:44, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I did happen to see the episode, and it did bear a little bit of a resemblence.--[[User:witchesbrew82|witchesbrew82]] 00:13, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Lizzie Mcguire ==
In the epiosde ''My Dinner with Dig'' there is a Teacher named Miss. Chapman, I know it ain't h*r related but it's Mike and Matt chapman related if no-one replies in 7 days, I will add it.

:Consider this that reply. It's not H*R-related, and it's not TBC related. Chapman is a very common name.

:P.S. Please sign your posts. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 04:43, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, ya didn't have to be rude about it Intteruptor Jones, I am not so sure how to sign my posts.-Anynomous

== Disney (Australia) ==

On the Disney Channel in Australia, there have been ads, for santa claus 2 and a bunch of other movies, and they say it's ''Christmas in July''. Like decemberween, should I add it, if no-one replies in 7 days, I'll add it.-Anynonmous

:''Christmas in July'' is a very common phrase. [[The Brothers Chaps]] are not the creators of this idea. This does not count as a sighting. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:54, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Alright then show me were else someone has used ''Christmas in July''.

:Off the top of my head, I can think of a local furniture manufacturer that had annual Christmas in July sales, and my orthodontist office's theme of the month was once Christmas in July. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:47, 3 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::How about [http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-13,GGLD:en&q=%22christmas+in+july%22 354,000] of them? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:59, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Ed, Edd 'n Eddy ==

An episode of Ed, Edd 'n Eddy has the Eds making a time capsule, in which they have flashbacks to clips from older episodes. However, as a fan of the show will note, most of these flashback clips are fakes; that is they never occured in earlier episodes of the show, much like most of Strong Bad's flashbacks in [[personal favorites]].
--[[User:Payphone Ed|Payphone Ed]] 15:59, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Way to far of a stretch to be a sighting. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:00, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

That's why I tossed it in here.--[[User:Payphone Ed|Payphone Ed]] 16:08, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Oh. Gotcha. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:10, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Bloo Done It? ==

How is this a reference:In an episode called "Bloo done it" Bloo just grows pecs and abs. Just like Stinkoman in the time capsule e-mail. In tonnes of shows people just grow pecs and abs.

== Stan the Man ==

I went on to tv.com and did a search for Matt Chapman. It turns out he did the voice of Kingston in Episode Three of the series [http://www.tv.com/stan-the-man/show/14754/episode_guide.html Stan the Man]. Should I/someone else add this to this page? Or is this just for the Characters of hsr.com? --[[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 23:29, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Billy and Mandy ==

what about how billy jumps over the busses on his bike? it looks almost exactly like in the e-mail "Mile" when strong bad cartwheels over Bubs' busses--[[User:StrongBad110990|StrongBad110990]] 00:09, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I removed the Billy and Mandy reference where Billy supposedly pronounced "job" like Coach Z would. After seeing that episode again, Billy in fact pronounces it like "Job," the man from the Biblical book of Job. -- MSR

that's not what i was asking but...ok

==my dad the rock star==
In an episode, (I can't remember which, sorry!) Q's dad is walking, and he walks past Coach's Z's medallion on a fence! [[User:Fizz123|I'm not logged in]]

Isn't Q's huge Q medallion a parody of Coach Z's Z itself?--[[User:witchesbrew82|witchesbrew82]] 00:11, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Good Eats==
In last night's episode on meatballs, "Great Balls of Meat," host Alton Brown pulls out an apparently useless trinket and says, "Best five grand I ever spent." Too vague? The show is filmed in Atlanta and AB is a definite net user, so I think it's likely he knows about H/R. - [[User:Mrdarcy|Mrdarcy]] 14:47, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:He seems just like the kind of person to reference Homestar. I'd say put it on there for now. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I just noticed that this edit was reverted the moment I posted it, with no explanation other than "common phrase." [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Television_Sightings&diff=184231&oldid=184230] Now, if something is suggested on the talk page, and after a week there's just one comment, and it's positive, why on earth would anyone revert the edit? Seems rude to me, and not terribly justified. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 21:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Sorry, Totoro, but I just deleted it for the same reason. I agree that "best X$ I ever spent" is a common phrase that's far from exclusive to H*R. I'm guessing that HSR username, like me, doesn't always check the talk page before reverting an edit just because we get so many dubious sightings ("I was watching this show and they said Holy Crap, it MUST be a Strong Bad ref!") Again, sorry for the hasty revert. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:14, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, I don't agree, because of the reasons mentioned above, because Brown makes a slew of pop-culture references, because of the situation it was used in (the character has obviously bought something of no value for a lot of cash), and because of the tone Brown used when saying it. It's a no-brainer, and as I said above, I had vetted it through the talk page before adding it. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 20:31, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::"Best X bucks I ever spent" is a phrase used in many pop-culture contexts. It's a common phrase. I'm pretty sure I heard it on Seinfeld a couple of times, for example. If the "Good Eats" guy is in the habit of making H*R refs, then I'd agree, but I think it's far from a "no brainer". {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:40, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::That doesn't address any of what I've said. I'm not arguing that the phrase is unique to H/R. I'm arguing that the use of it in that context (speaker has been taken, doesn't realize it, is enthusiastic about the expenditure) as a sort of catchphrase is unique to H/R, so unless you're saying that Brown came up with the same gag on his own (possible), I don't see how this doesn't belong. I can't find any reference to a Seinfeld quote using (best + "ever spent"), BTW. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 21:00, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

==The Colbert Report==

Recently on The Colbert Report, Steven was talking about his word "Truthiness" being nominated for word of the year and said "I'm simutaneouly honoured and offended to recieve this award". Then, the next day he said another quote similar to one off H*R.com (Forget what it was). Considering it could just be coincidence I thought I'd ask first. - [[User:Darthvader66|Darthvader66]] 01:07, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Television Sightings

2006-01-27T20:31:34Z

Totoro: /* Good Eats */ response

==Grainy Screencaps==
Sorry about the grainy screencaps. Buffy, Angel, and Zim will soon have clean DVD screencaps once I finish with some schoolwork. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:22, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

== Foster's ==

This show has 4 documented sightings, so I think the creators are H*R fans hiding it. The other H*R fans just find it.[[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

*I saw an episode of Foster's that I don't know what it was called (Comcast calls it The Big Leblooski, but it's not always right), about bowling, and learning how to bowl, and half the plot was that Bloo was trying to win a paddleball at a crane machine. But one of the things in the crane looked suspiciously like a Strong Bad head... but not exactly like it. I don't have a screenshot, and because it wasn't totally like SB, it may have been a coincedence, so I didn't put it on. If anyone else has seen this episode, please tell me if you noticed this resemblance (or the object in question). --[[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]] 04:44, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I did happen to see the episode, and it did bear a little bit of a resemblence.--[[User:witchesbrew82|witchesbrew82]] 00:13, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Lizzie Mcguire ==
In the epiosde ''My Dinner with Dig'' there is a Teacher named Miss. Chapman, I know it ain't h*r related but it's Mike and Matt chapman related if no-one replies in 7 days, I will add it.

:Consider this that reply. It's not H*R-related, and it's not TBC related. Chapman is a very common name.

:P.S. Please sign your posts. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 04:43, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, ya didn't have to be rude about it Intteruptor Jones, I am not so sure how to sign my posts.-Anynomous

== Disney (Australia) ==

On the Disney Channel in Australia, there have been ads, for santa claus 2 and a bunch of other movies, and they say it's ''Christmas in July''. Like decemberween, should I add it, if no-one replies in 7 days, I'll add it.-Anynonmous

:''Christmas in July'' is a very common phrase. [[The Brothers Chaps]] are not the creators of this idea. This does not count as a sighting. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:54, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Alright then show me were else someone has used ''Christmas in July''.

:Off the top of my head, I can think of a local furniture manufacturer that had annual Christmas in July sales, and my orthodontist office's theme of the month was once Christmas in July. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:47, 3 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::How about [http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-13,GGLD:en&q=%22christmas+in+july%22 354,000] of them? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:59, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Ed, Edd 'n Eddy ==

An episode of Ed, Edd 'n Eddy has the Eds making a time capsule, in which they have flashbacks to clips from older episodes. However, as a fan of the show will note, most of these flashback clips are fakes; that is they never occured in earlier episodes of the show, much like most of Strong Bad's flashbacks in [[personal favorites]].
--[[User:Payphone Ed|Payphone Ed]] 15:59, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Way to far of a stretch to be a sighting. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:00, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

That's why I tossed it in here.--[[User:Payphone Ed|Payphone Ed]] 16:08, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Oh. Gotcha. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:10, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Bloo Done It? ==

How is this a reference:In an episode called "Bloo done it" Bloo just grows pecs and abs. Just like Stinkoman in the time capsule e-mail. In tonnes of shows people just grow pecs and abs.

== Stan the Man ==

I went on to tv.com and did a search for Matt Chapman. It turns out he did the voice of Kingston in Episode Three of the series [http://www.tv.com/stan-the-man/show/14754/episode_guide.html Stan the Man]. Should I/someone else add this to this page? Or is this just for the Characters of hsr.com? --[[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 23:29, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Billy and Mandy ==

what about how billy jumps over the busses on his bike? it looks almost exactly like in the e-mail "Mile" when strong bad cartwheels over Bubs' busses--[[User:StrongBad110990|StrongBad110990]] 00:09, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I removed the Billy and Mandy reference where Billy supposedly pronounced "job" like Coach Z would. After seeing that episode again, Billy in fact pronounces it like "Job," the man from the Biblical book of Job. -- MSR

that's not what i was asking but...ok

==my dad the rock star==
In an episode, (I can't remember which, sorry!) Q's dad is walking, and he walks past Coach's Z's medallion on a fence! [[User:Fizz123|I'm not logged in]]

Isn't Q's huge Q medallion a parody of Coach Z's Z itself?--[[User:witchesbrew82|witchesbrew82]] 00:11, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Good Eats==
In last night's episode on meatballs, "Great Balls of Meat," host Alton Brown pulls out an apparently useless trinket and says, "Best five grand I ever spent." Too vague? The show is filmed in Atlanta and AB is a definite net user, so I think it's likely he knows about H/R. - [[User:Mrdarcy|Mrdarcy]] 14:47, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:He seems just like the kind of person to reference Homestar. I'd say put it on there for now. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I just noticed that this edit was reverted the moment I posted it, with no explanation other than "common phrase." [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Television_Sightings&diff=184231&oldid=184230] Now, if something is suggested on the talk page, and after a week there's just one comment, and it's positive, why on earth would anyone revert the edit? Seems rude to me, and not terribly justified. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 21:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Sorry, Totoro, but I just deleted it for the same reason. I agree that "best X$ I ever spent" is a common phrase that's far from exclusive to H*R. I'm guessing that HSR username, like me, doesn't always check the talk page before reverting an edit just because we get so many dubious sightings ("I was watching this show and they said Holy Crap, it MUST be a Strong Bad ref!") Again, sorry for the hasty revert. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:14, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, I don't agree, because of the reasons mentioned above, because Brown makes a slew of pop-culture references, because of the situation it was used in (the character has obviously bought something of no value for a lot of cash), and because of the tone Brown used when saying it. It's a no-brainer, and as I said above, I had vetted it through the talk page before adding it. | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 20:31, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

==The Colbert Report==

Recently on The Colbert Report, Steven was talking about his word "Truthiness" being nominated for word of the year and said "I'm simutaneouly honoured and offended to recieve this award". Then, the next day he said another quote similar to one off H*R.com (Forget what it was). Considering it could just be coincidence I thought I'd ask first. - [[User:Darthvader66|Darthvader66]] 01:07, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Television Sightings

2006-01-27T19:37:26Z

Totoro: fixing header levels

{{sightingslanguagewarning}}
== Anime Unleashed ==
In many episodes of Cromartie High School, there is a weird person that looks like the [[Balding Man]] from [[Senor Mortgage]] that only appears in the sky at random times.

== Angel ==
*In a season five episode of ''Angel'' entitled ''The Girl in Question'', Spike and Angel visited Buffy's apartment and instead found Andrew, who was wearing a black Strong Bad t-shirt. Later in the episode, Andrew wore the same Strong Bad shirt with a pore strip plastered on his nose.
*Incidentally, Andrew is the very same character who appeared in the Trogdor-laden ''Buffy'' reference. Since both shows are the brainchildren of creator/writer/executive director Joss Whedon, we can probably assume that the creator of Buffy is also a fan of Homestar Runner.

== Buffy the Vampire Slayer ==
[[Image:chosen164.jpg|thumb|Trogdor vs. Scoobies]]
In the series finale of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Ep. 722) Trogdor was used as a creature in a game of Dungeons and Dragons.

=== Transcript ===
:'''GILES:''' I'm — I'm — I'm all turned around. You're here?

:'''XANDER:''' By the pillar, yeah. I'm protecting this area.

:'''GILES:''' That puts me over by the door. Demons around the perimeter. Right! I open the door.

:''{Pan over to show Andrew is also at the table, but he's wearing a red hooded cloak.}''

:'''ANDREW:''' ''{reading from a book}'' You go through the door and are confronted by Trogdor the Burninator.

:'''GILES:''' Oh, bugger it. Fight. ''{rolls dice, sips wine}''

:'''ANDREW:''' Adios to 5 hit points. Trogdor has badly wounded you.

:'''GILES:''' Well, wait a minute. What about my... ''{puts on glasses}'' bag of illusions?

:'''ANDREW:''' ''{scoffs}'' Illusions against a Burninator? Silly, silly British man. ''{Giles sips his wine again.}''

:'''AMANDA:''' I invoke a time flux on Trogdor.

:'''ANDREW:''' ''{looks at Amanda}'' Step down, girlfriend, you can't just —

:'''AMANDA:''' Ninth level sorcerer, and I carry the emerald chalice. Trogdor is frozen in time. Deal with it.

== Attack of the Show! ==
*On the May 24, 2005 episode of G4's ''Attack of the Show!'' Kevin Pereira, a host, mentions [[Peasant's Quest]].
*On the July 6, 2005 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' guest host Tom Fulp, creator of Newgrounds.com, was wearing a [[Homsar]] shirt.
*On the July 12, 2005 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' Kevin Pereira commented on a dragon tattoo saying that "It's almost Trogdor."
*On the July 20, 2005 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' Kevin Pereira mentioned that "the robots cannot beat the Trogdor."

== The Andy Milonakis Show ==
On one episode Andy makes an awkward play named "MOOOOOOOOON!" This is said like the soy sauce drunk Strong Bad in [[personal favorites]]. The video for "MOOOOOOOOOOON!" can be found [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1285801792027620314 here]

== Cheat ==
On one episode of Cheat on G4TechTV, they mentioned that if you use the random name generator enough times in the XBox game "Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic," Homsar's name will be generated.

== CNN Student News ==
On the December 15, 2004 edition of [http://cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/fyi/index.html/ CNN Student News], a short news magazine on CNN Headline news, they had a clip of a soldier in Iraq receiving a Kick The Cheat toy for Christmas.

== d'FUSED ==
On the March 12th episode of ''d'FUSED'', a segment on Red Vs. Blue showed the cast of Homestar Runner in their real-world, plastic figurine state atop the preview monitor for a Red Vs. Blue episode.

== Filter ==
This tech review show asks viewers to send in their favorite websites, but there were three websites that they did not want people submitting anymore. Homestar Runner.com was ranked #3 with 166 submissions, Red vs. Blue was #2, and Runescape was #1.

== Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends ==
[[Image:Bloostar.PNG.PNG|thumb|100px|This speaks for itself.]]
*During the episode "Bloo's Brothers" a Bloo clone that looks freakishly similar to Homestar appears very briefly.
**There is also a Bloo clone that looks like [[Shark-Tooth Bubs]].
*The ending of the episode "A Sight For Sore Eyes" is very similar to [[Old Intro 2]].
*In the episode "Bye Bye Nerdy", Bloo pulls off a jump similar to that in [[stunt double]] and [[dangeresque 3]] by [[Strong Bad]] as the title character.
*At one point in the episode "Squeakerboxxx", Wilt calls the elephant "Harry Elefante", which [[Strong Bad]] calls [[Strong Sad]] in [[origins]]. [http://tv.com TV.com] said this about it:
**''It also refers to two different items: The first comes from the "Friends" episode "The One That Follows The Super Bowl" in which Ross (David Schwimmer) says that Marcel (his pet monkey) has a favorite toy named "Harry Elefante", and was used in a Strong Bad E-mail entitled "origins" on homestarrunner.com that refered to Strong Bad's brother, Strong Sad, as "Harry Elefante".''
*In "Duchess of Wails," there's an orange imaginary friend that looks suspiciously like [[Trogdor]].
*In the episode "Bloo Done It," Bloo has a star sticker stuck to his head, and he takes it off and angrily stomps on it, similar to what Homestar does in [[different town]].

== G4tv.com ==
On [http://www.g4tv.com/g4tv/episodes/3888/Men_are_from_World_of_Warcraft_Woman_are_From_The_Sims.html this episode] of G4tv.com on G4, an unnamed person, playing the role of Laura Foy's date, was seen wearing a "[[Trogdor (character)|Trogdor]]" shirt. The videoclip, entitled Gamer Dating Do's And Don'ts is now available for viewing at [http://www.g4tv.com/mediaplayer/index.aspx?video_key=9033 this location.]

== The Geek Show ==
On ''[http://www.thegeekshow.com/ The Geek Show]'', Strong Bad Emails are frequently shown as an example of "What's funny on the internet." They have played "[[japanese cartoon]]", "[[dullard]]", "[[theme party]]" and "[[Strong Bad Sings]]" on their show.

==''Good Eats''==
On the episode "Great Balls of Meat" [http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/Season9/meatballs/meatball_tran.htm] of the [http://www.foodnetwork.com Food Network] show Good Eats, Alton Brown pulls out a piece of parchment with a circle drawn on it, claims it's an Egyptian artifact, and says, "Best five grand I ever spent" - a reference to [[Best/Worst X bucks I ever spent]].

== The Life And Times Of Juniper Lee ==
A certain episode entitled "Not In My Backyard" is based on a benign monster called a "Batoot" named "Hector", whose head and underbite look extremely like [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]]'s.

== Junkin' ==
On the television show ''[http://www.turnersouth.com/network/shows/junkin/ Junkin']'', the host "Dave" has appeared wearing Trogdor and Strong Bad T-shirts.

== NFL Films: Game of the Week ==
About three quarters through this hour-long recap of the game, a Falcons' victory, one of the defensive linemen for Atlanta, Patrick Kerney, points to his family in the stands. One of them is holding up a sign that says "GOOD JORB!", an unmistakable reference to [[Coach Z]].

== Megas XLR ==
In an episode called "Breakout", Coop tried to use an attack called Double Deuce by jumping and putting two fists in front of him.

== Monster House ==
In an episode of ''Monster House'' called "[http://www.tvtome.com/MonsterHouse/season1.html#ep18 Sports House]," the host Steve is wearing a Strong Bad T-shirt during the introductions. This episode first aired February 2, 2004.
In the Christmas House episode, a group of 'carolers' from across the neighborhood sings for the people living in the house. One girl is wearing a Strong Bad T-shirt.

== Pulse ==
In early 2004 the show Pulse on G4TechTV talked with the Brothers Chaps, and asked them about the new game that they are developing for the Atari 2600. They showed many video clips of their Atari game. The Chaps talked about how they record their voices and how successful they have been. They announced that later this year they are going to release a DVD with the first hundred emails. After the commercial break, the hosts interviewed the company that is developing the Homestar Runner game, Videlectrix, which was really just one of the Brothers Chaps wearing a fake mustache.

== The Screen Savers ==
*An episode of The Screen Savers on G4TechTV featured a guest who is making a [[Homestar Runner RPG]] for the Atari 2600, which is still in development.
*The [http://www.g4techtv.com/screensavers/episodes/3848/Home_Star_Runner_eXeem_LA_Auto_Show.html January 24th episode] of The Screen Savers had [[Screen Savers Interview - 24 Jan 2005|an interview]] with [[The Brothers Chaps]]. In this episode, puppet Strong Bad made his debut to answer questions from fans. The article also mentions that in order to learn more than one ever thought possible about [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]], one can head over to the Homestar Runner Wiki.

== The Suite Life of Zack and Cody ==
*On one episode, Cody tries accomplishing a dance trick, and calls it a name. Max says in reply, "I call it last place!" which may be a reference to [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].

== Survivor: Pearl Islands ==
When Ryan Shoulders picks up some tree mail (the show's system of getting messages to the castaways), he sings the opening to SB Email [[techno]], singing it as "the tree mail, the tree mail, what, what, the tree mail."

== The Tonight Show with Jay Leno ==
Leno was showing examples of absurd eBay auctions and having the audience guess whether they sold or not. One of them was a laptop that had been shot with a shotgun. Its subject line said "LIKE USED! SLIGHTLY SHOTGUNNED!" like the tags on the similarly shotgunned Compy at the end of [[virus]]. It sold.

== WonderShowzen ==
In an episode of an alternative-style televison show, "Wondershowzen," a puppet named Chauncey, in one of many skits, informed the number Two that if she didn't stop talking, he would 'Puke his Pants.' Number Two proceeded to leave the screen.

== X-Play ==
On an episode of G4TechTV's ''X-Play'', the wrestling game "WWE: Day of Reckoning" is reviewed. To demo the "create your own wrestler" mode, the reviewers create a wrestler that looks suspiciously like Strong Bad, and appears to be named "SB".

{{Template:sightingslist}}
[[Category:Sightings]]

Television Sightings

2006-01-27T19:35:27Z

Totoro: restoring deleted "Good Eats" reference - explained on talk page

{{sightingslanguagewarning}}
== Anime Unleashed ==
In many episodes of Cromartie High School, there is a weird person that looks like the [[Balding Man]] from [[Senor Mortgage]] that only appears in the sky at random times.

== Angel ==
*In a season five episode of ''Angel'' entitled ''The Girl in Question'', Spike and Angel visited Buffy's apartment and instead found Andrew, who was wearing a black Strong Bad t-shirt. Later in the episode, Andrew wore the same Strong Bad shirt with a pore strip plastered on his nose.
*Incidentally, Andrew is the very same character who appeared in the Trogdor-laden ''Buffy'' reference. Since both shows are the brainchildren of creator/writer/executive director Joss Whedon, we can probably assume that the creator of Buffy is also a fan of Homestar Runner.

== Buffy the Vampire Slayer ==
[[Image:chosen164.jpg|thumb|Trogdor vs. Scoobies]]
In the series finale of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (Ep. 722) Trogdor was used as a creature in a game of Dungeons and Dragons.

=== Transcript ===
:'''GILES:''' I'm — I'm — I'm all turned around. You're here?

:'''XANDER:''' By the pillar, yeah. I'm protecting this area.

:'''GILES:''' That puts me over by the door. Demons around the perimeter. Right! I open the door.

:''{Pan over to show Andrew is also at the table, but he's wearing a red hooded cloak.}''

:'''ANDREW:''' ''{reading from a book}'' You go through the door and are confronted by Trogdor the Burninator.

:'''GILES:''' Oh, bugger it. Fight. ''{rolls dice, sips wine}''

:'''ANDREW:''' Adios to 5 hit points. Trogdor has badly wounded you.

:'''GILES:''' Well, wait a minute. What about my... ''{puts on glasses}'' bag of illusions?

:'''ANDREW:''' ''{scoffs}'' Illusions against a Burninator? Silly, silly British man. ''{Giles sips his wine again.}''

:'''AMANDA:''' I invoke a time flux on Trogdor.

:'''ANDREW:''' ''{looks at Amanda}'' Step down, girlfriend, you can't just —

:'''AMANDA:''' Ninth level sorcerer, and I carry the emerald chalice. Trogdor is frozen in time. Deal with it.

== Attack of the Show! ==
*On the May 24, 2005 episode of G4's ''Attack of the Show!'' Kevin Pereira, a host, mentions [[Peasant's Quest]].
*On the July 6, 2005 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' guest host Tom Fulp, creator of Newgrounds.com, was wearing a [[Homsar]] shirt.
*On the July 12, 2005 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' Kevin Pereira commented on a dragon tattoo saying that "It's almost Trogdor."
*On the July 20, 2005 episode of ''Attack of the Show!'' Kevin Pereira mentioned that "the robots cannot beat the Trogdor."

== The Andy Milonakis Show ==
On one episode Andy makes an awkward play named "MOOOOOOOOON!" This is said like the soy sauce drunk Strong Bad in [[personal favorites]]. The video for "MOOOOOOOOOOON!" can be found [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1285801792027620314 here]

== Cheat ==
On one episode of Cheat on G4TechTV, they mentioned that if you use the random name generator enough times in the XBox game "Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic," Homsar's name will be generated.

== CNN Student News ==
On the December 15, 2004 edition of [http://cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/fyi/index.html/ CNN Student News], a short news magazine on CNN Headline news, they had a clip of a soldier in Iraq receiving a Kick The Cheat toy for Christmas.

== d'FUSED ==
On the March 12th episode of ''d'FUSED'', a segment on Red Vs. Blue showed the cast of Homestar Runner in their real-world, plastic figurine state atop the preview monitor for a Red Vs. Blue episode.

== Filter ==
This tech review show asks viewers to send in their favorite websites, but there were three websites that they did not want people submitting anymore. Homestar Runner.com was ranked #3 with 166 submissions, Red vs. Blue was #2, and Runescape was #1.

== Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends ==
[[Image:Bloostar.PNG.PNG|thumb|100px|This speaks for itself.]]
*During the episode "Bloo's Brothers" a Bloo clone that looks freakishly similar to Homestar appears very briefly.
**There is also a Bloo clone that looks like [[Shark-Tooth Bubs]].
*The ending of the episode "A Sight For Sore Eyes" is very similar to [[Old Intro 2]].
*In the episode "Bye Bye Nerdy", Bloo pulls off a jump similar to that in [[stunt double]] and [[dangeresque 3]] by [[Strong Bad]] as the title character.
*At one point in the episode "Squeakerboxxx", Wilt calls the elephant "Harry Elefante", which [[Strong Bad]] calls [[Strong Sad]] in [[origins]]. [http://tv.com TV.com] said this about it:
**''It also refers to two different items: The first comes from the "Friends" episode "The One That Follows The Super Bowl" in which Ross (David Schwimmer) says that Marcel (his pet monkey) has a favorite toy named "Harry Elefante", and was used in a Strong Bad E-mail entitled "origins" on homestarrunner.com that refered to Strong Bad's brother, Strong Sad, as "Harry Elefante".''
*In "Duchess of Wails," there's an orange imaginary friend that looks suspiciously like [[Trogdor]].
*In the episode "Bloo Done It," Bloo has a star sticker stuck to his head, and he takes it off and angrily stomps on it, similar to what Homestar does in [[different town]].

== G4tv.com ==
On [http://www.g4tv.com/g4tv/episodes/3888/Men_are_from_World_of_Warcraft_Woman_are_From_The_Sims.html this episode] of G4tv.com on G4, an unnamed person, playing the role of Laura Foy's date, was seen wearing a "[[Trogdor (character)|Trogdor]]" shirt. The videoclip, entitled Gamer Dating Do's And Don'ts is now available for viewing at [http://www.g4tv.com/mediaplayer/index.aspx?video_key=9033 this location.]

== The Geek Show ==
On ''[http://www.thegeekshow.com/ The Geek Show]'', Strong Bad Emails are frequently shown as an example of "What's funny on the internet." They have played "[[japanese cartoon]]", "[[dullard]]", "[[theme party]]" and "[[Strong Bad Sings]]" on their show.

===''Good Eats''===
On the episode "Great Balls of Meat" [http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/Season9/meatballs/meatball_tran.htm] of the [http://www.foodnetwork.com Food Network] show Good Eats, Alton Brown pulls out a piece of parchment with a circle drawn on it, claims it's an Egyptian artifact, and says, "Best five grand I ever spent" - a reference to [[Best/Worst X bucks I ever spent]].

== The Life And Times Of Juniper Lee ==
A certain episode entitled "Not In My Backyard" is based on a benign monster called a "Batoot" named "Hector", whose head and underbite look extremely like [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]]'s.

== Junkin' ==
On the television show ''[http://www.turnersouth.com/network/shows/junkin/ Junkin']'', the host "Dave" has appeared wearing Trogdor and Strong Bad T-shirts.

== NFL Films: Game of the Week ==
About three quarters through this hour-long recap of the game, a Falcons' victory, one of the defensive linemen for Atlanta, Patrick Kerney, points to his family in the stands. One of them is holding up a sign that says "GOOD JORB!", an unmistakable reference to [[Coach Z]].

== Megas XLR ==
In an episode called "Breakout", Coop tried to use an attack called Double Deuce by jumping and putting two fists in front of him.

== Monster House ==
In an episode of ''Monster House'' called "[http://www.tvtome.com/MonsterHouse/season1.html#ep18 Sports House]," the host Steve is wearing a Strong Bad T-shirt during the introductions. This episode first aired February 2, 2004.
In the Christmas House episode, a group of 'carolers' from across the neighborhood sings for the people living in the house. One girl is wearing a Strong Bad T-shirt.

== Pulse ==
In early 2004 the show Pulse on G4TechTV talked with the Brothers Chaps, and asked them about the new game that they are developing for the Atari 2600. They showed many video clips of their Atari game. The Chaps talked about how they record their voices and how successful they have been. They announced that later this year they are going to release a DVD with the first hundred emails. After the commercial break, the hosts interviewed the company that is developing the Homestar Runner game, Videlectrix, which was really just one of the Brothers Chaps wearing a fake mustache.

== The Screen Savers ==
*An episode of The Screen Savers on G4TechTV featured a guest who is making a [[Homestar Runner RPG]] for the Atari 2600, which is still in development.
*The [http://www.g4techtv.com/screensavers/episodes/3848/Home_Star_Runner_eXeem_LA_Auto_Show.html January 24th episode] of The Screen Savers had [[Screen Savers Interview - 24 Jan 2005|an interview]] with [[The Brothers Chaps]]. In this episode, puppet Strong Bad made his debut to answer questions from fans. The article also mentions that in order to learn more than one ever thought possible about [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]], one can head over to the Homestar Runner Wiki.

== The Suite Life of Zack and Cody ==
*On one episode, Cody tries accomplishing a dance trick, and calls it a name. Max says in reply, "I call it last place!" which may be a reference to [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].

== Survivor: Pearl Islands ==
When Ryan Shoulders picks up some tree mail (the show's system of getting messages to the castaways), he sings the opening to SB Email [[techno]], singing it as "the tree mail, the tree mail, what, what, the tree mail."

== The Tonight Show with Jay Leno ==
Leno was showing examples of absurd eBay auctions and having the audience guess whether they sold or not. One of them was a laptop that had been shot with a shotgun. Its subject line said "LIKE USED! SLIGHTLY SHOTGUNNED!" like the tags on the similarly shotgunned Compy at the end of [[virus]]. It sold.

== WonderShowzen ==
In an episode of an alternative-style televison show, "Wondershowzen," a puppet named Chauncey, in one of many skits, informed the number Two that if she didn't stop talking, he would 'Puke his Pants.' Number Two proceeded to leave the screen.

== X-Play ==
On an episode of G4TechTV's ''X-Play'', the wrestling game "WWE: Day of Reckoning" is reviewed. To demo the "create your own wrestler" mode, the reviewers create a wrestler that looks suspiciously like Strong Bad, and appears to be named "SB".

{{Template:sightingslist}}
[[Category:Sightings]]

User talk:Totoro

2006-01-27T18:42:39Z

Totoro: /* Comment-nothing important, but... */ totoro and miyazaki-san

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— {{User:Lapper/sig}}, and "The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee" 21:41, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Comment-nothing important, but... ==

From your user name, it seems that we are the only two Wiki members who have heard of the Japanese film "My Neighbor Totoro". Wierd, huh? Either that, or you're Robin Glynn (obscure inside joke). {{User:Gnome of Fury/sig}} 21:12, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, I've heard of it too. I've not seen it, but I'd like to. My friend Koneko raves up and down about it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I've heard of it too, and plan to get the DVD when it's released ('cause I love Miyazaki films). {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:31, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I just saw it for the first time when TCM aired it last Thursday. Great movie; probably my third favorite after Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke. And while it's not directed by Miyazaki, Whisper of the Heart is pretty good too (a Ghibli film he wrote but a protege directed). | [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 18:42, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Television Sightings

2006-01-25T21:39:06Z

Totoro: /* Good Eats */ why was this edit reverted?

==Grainy Screencaps==
Sorry about the grainy screencaps. Buffy, Angel, and Zim will soon have clean DVD screencaps once I finish with some schoolwork. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 02:22, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

== Foster's ==

This show has 4 documented sightings, so I think the creators are H*R fans hiding it. The other H*R fans just find it.[[User:Amy Whifflepoof|Amy Whifflepoof]]

*I saw an episode of Foster's that I don't know what it was called (Comcast calls it The Big Leblooski, but it's not always right), about bowling, and learning how to bowl, and half the plot was that Bloo was trying to win a paddleball at a crane machine. But one of the things in the crane looked suspiciously like a Strong Bad head... but not exactly like it. I don't have a screenshot, and because it wasn't totally like SB, it may have been a coincedence, so I didn't put it on. If anyone else has seen this episode, please tell me if you noticed this resemblance (or the object in question). --[[User:Bonkava!|Bonkava!]] 04:44, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I did happen to see the episode, and it did bear a little bit of a resemblence.--[[User:witchesbrew82|witchesbrew82]] 00:13, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Lizzie Mcguire ==
In the epiosde ''My Dinner with Dig'' there is a Teacher named Miss. Chapman, I know it ain't h*r related but it's Mike and Matt chapman related if no-one replies in 7 days, I will add it.

:Consider this that reply. It's not H*R-related, and it's not TBC related. Chapman is a very common name.

:P.S. Please sign your posts. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 04:43, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, ya didn't have to be rude about it Intteruptor Jones, I am not so sure how to sign my posts.-Anynomous

== Disney (Australia) ==

On the Disney Channel in Australia, there have been ads, for santa claus 2 and a bunch of other movies, and they say it's ''Christmas in July''. Like decemberween, should I add it, if no-one replies in 7 days, I'll add it.-Anynonmous

:''Christmas in July'' is a very common phrase. [[The Brothers Chaps]] are not the creators of this idea. This does not count as a sighting. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:54, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Alright then show me were else someone has used ''Christmas in July''.

:Off the top of my head, I can think of a local furniture manufacturer that had annual Christmas in July sales, and my orthodontist office's theme of the month was once Christmas in July. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:47, 3 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::How about [http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-13,GGLD:en&q=%22christmas+in+july%22 354,000] of them? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 14:59, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Ed, Edd 'n Eddy ==

An episode of Ed, Edd 'n Eddy has the Eds making a time capsule, in which they have flashbacks to clips from older episodes. However, as a fan of the show will note, most of these flashback clips are fakes; that is they never occured in earlier episodes of the show, much like most of Strong Bad's flashbacks in [[personal favorites]].
--[[User:Payphone Ed|Payphone Ed]] 15:59, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Way to far of a stretch to be a sighting. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:00, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

That's why I tossed it in here.--[[User:Payphone Ed|Payphone Ed]] 16:08, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Oh. Gotcha. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 16:10, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Bloo Done It? ==

How is this a reference:In an episode called "Bloo done it" Bloo just grows pecs and abs. Just like Stinkoman in the time capsule e-mail. In tonnes of shows people just grow pecs and abs.

== Stan the Man ==

I went on to tv.com and did a search for Matt Chapman. It turns out he did the voice of Kingston in Episode Three of the series [http://www.tv.com/stan-the-man/show/14754/episode_guide.html Stan the Man]. Should I/someone else add this to this page? Or is this just for the Characters of hsr.com? --[[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 23:29, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Billy and Mandy ==

what about how billy jumps over the busses on his bike? it looks almost exactly like in the e-mail "Mile" when strong bad cartwheels over Bubs' busses--[[User:StrongBad110990|StrongBad110990]] 00:09, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I removed the Billy and Mandy reference where Billy supposedly pronounced "job" like Coach Z would. After seeing that episode again, Billy in fact pronounces it like "Job," the man from the Biblical book of Job. -- MSR

that's not what i was asking but...ok

==my dad the rock star==
In an episode, (I can't remember which, sorry!) Q's dad is walking, and he walks past Coach's Z's medallion on a fence! [[User:Fizz123|I'm not logged in]]

Isn't Q's huge Q medallion a parody of Coach Z's Z itself?--[[User:witchesbrew82|witchesbrew82]] 00:11, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Good Eats==
In last night's episode on meatballs, "Great Balls of Meat," host Alton Brown pulls out an apparently useless trinket and says, "Best five grand I ever spent." Too vague? The show is filmed in Atlanta and AB is a definite net user, so I think it's likely he knows about H/R. - [[User:Mrdarcy|Mrdarcy]] 14:47, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:He seems just like the kind of person to reference Homestar. I'd say put it on there for now. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I just noticed that this edit was reverted the moment I posted it, with no explanation other than "common phrase." [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Television_Sightings&diff=184231&oldid=184230] Now, if something is suggested on the talk page, and after a week there's just one comment, and it's positive, why on earth would anyone revert the edit? Seems rude to me, and not terribly justified. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 21:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

==The Colbert Report==

Recently on The Colbert Report, Steven was talking about his word "Truthiness" being nominated for word of the year and said "I'm simutaneouly honoured and offended to recieve this award". Then, the next day he said another quote similar to one off H*R.com (Forget what it was). Considering it could just be coincidence I thought I'd ask first. - [[User:Darthvader66|Darthvader66]] 01:07, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

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Totoro: my other identities

I previously edited as [[Special:Contributions/Mrdarcy|Mrdarcy]] and anonymously as [[Special:Contributions/65.78.2.81|65.78.2.81]].