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Talk:Teen Girl Squad Issue 13

2007-06-18T21:33:14Z

Spell4yr: She Gone

==!==
*Oops. Looks like we got two images. Which one should we choose? I uploaded mine one minute before Techgeekmbg. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 05:09, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

== The bodyguard ==

Looks exactly like Olympic Man from issue 10. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 06:06, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
:Yup — that's what I put in the transcript. The blurred words on his shirt read "Olympic Man". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:09, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

== Hotel balcony dangling reference ==

So, right now the following two real-world references are both in the article:
<blockquote>
* The Olympic Guy dangling The Ugly One from a hotel balcony is a reference to a widely-publicized event in 2002, when [[Wikipedia:Michael Jackson|Michael Jackson]] dangled his son from a hotel balcony;
* Dangling The Ugly One over the balcony is also a reference to [[Wikipedia:Vanilla_Ice|Vanilla Ice's]] claim that rap record producer [[Wikipedia:Suge_Knight|Marion "Suge" Knight]] hung him up upside down on a hotel balcony in order to get Vanilla Ice to turn over his royalties. This relates to the rapper Peacey P shown earlier in the episode.
</blockquote>
They can't both be true. When I first watched the toon, I thought of the Michael Jackson incident, but now that I think about it, the Vanilla Ice one makes sense. First, it fits with the rapper theme (Peacey P), and second, Olympic Man dangles The Ugly One by her ankles (Michael Jackson held his baby by the torso). Any thoughts? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:46, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
:Hm. I have to agree. I thought of Michael Jackson when I first watched the toon, too, but the Vanilla Ice thing, while I'd never heard of it beforehand, makes more sense in context. It's not quite TTATOT, and warrants mention, but... If I had to choose, I'd say go with the latter of the two. -{{User:YK/sig}} 07:12, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
::Although I also immediately thought of Wacko Jacko, the theme here is Hip-Hop, which Jacko is not. The latter makes more sense in context. It won't be long till this'll get STUFFed anyway. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 09:48, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't know where to post this, cuz I'm editing on Wii and it won't let me start a new row. Peacy P's name must be a reference to Eazy-E of N.W.A, right? [[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 09:12, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
:No, it's more of a reference to "Doggy Dog" (as in "Snoop Doggy Dog"), which is whom Peacy P is parodying. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 09:48, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

But then again, I'm teekin bot the name, and since Eazy-E is both a rapper and rimes with Peacy P I'd guess that there's a reference here. [[User:Marvelrulez|Marvelrulez]] 14:13, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

== goo goo is wah wah? ==

"Goo goo is ga-ga. Wah wah is ga-ga. Are all goo goos wah wahs?"

Algebraically, this is: "A = B, C = B, does A = C?"

Being that algebra is a popular thing to test for in the SAT's I thought I'd at least bring it up. Don't know if it's worth mentioning on the page though.--[[User:69.243.221.87|69.243.221.87]] 08:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

: That's not ''quite'' what that corresponds to (it's not an algebraic statement; it's a logical grouping statement) but, yeah, that it what they're talking about. Like you, I doubt it merits inclusion on the page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 09:06, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, it's more the question of "Lions are Felines. Tigers are Felines. Are all Lions Tigers?" But I think it deserves some mention in the Fun Facts. Since it's an actual IQ question, I'm sure there's a few that wouldn't be able to really solve it (I know I had to think about it for a few seconds to work it out) which deserves being mentioned and solved in the Fun Facts. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:15, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

== Eau de toilette ==

Regarding the reference to the French "Toilet water" is it worth putting that this is only the literal translation, with the actual product being Cologne? Eg, Eau de toilette is French for Cologne, literally "Toilet water"

:Actually, it's not even a literal translation. The literal translation is "bathroom water." "Toilette" means "bathroom." {{unsigned|70.44.119.165|15:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)}}

== M.A.S.H.E.D.'.D ==
Says I that m.a.s.h. is not a reference to the TV show, but just to the video game practice of button mashing. This is reflected later with The Ugly One t.a.p.ing the TV remote.
:I agree — I considered this, but (1) M*A*S*H has asterisks, not periods between the letters, and (2) "m.a.s.h." has one after the last letter, whereas M*A*S*H does not. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
::But here's the question: if they didn't put dots between MASH because of M*A*S*H, why else did they put them in? And even if it is a coincidence, couldn't we still mention it? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 14:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
::Unless someone can come up with a better explantion, i think that this is a good reference. If it gets STUFF'd...well, who cares -{{User:Zerlock1124/sig}}

== Tompkins playing a GameBoy? ==
when Tompkins is shown playing with his virtual pet, it looks a heck of a lot like a GameBoy (original). anyone think this should be put somewhere? or am i just crazy? --[[User:EricTheDerek|EricTheDerek]] 14:10, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

:It's mentioned a few times in the transcript; do you think it should be mentioned elsewhere? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
::I'm pretty sure there have been virtual pet games on the Game Boy, so maybe Tompkins is playing one of those. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 14:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
:::There was actually a Tamagotchi game for GameBoy; I own it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 18:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

== I have a crush on EACH AND EVERY BOY!! ==

Does anyone else think Cheerleader's saying "I'll call EACH AND EVERY BOY!!" is reminiscent of The Ugly One's saying "I have a crush on EVERY BOY!!"? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 19:16, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

== Door from Alice in Wonderland ==

The fact that the door of Tompkins' house is the door from the Alice in Wonderland cartoon - Real world reference? Also, the top row of cereal boxes in the pantries seem to be Count Chocula, Frankenberry, and Boo Berry, though admittedly crude Strong-Bad-ish renderings. → [[User:Peacey_P|☮y P]] … Y'all biscuitheads! 19:23, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
:Well, I see my addition of the Alice in Wonderland fact has been removed. It's pretty clear that the door on this cartoon is based on the talking door (the door knob being on the face of the talking door, not the face itself as the removal notice claims...) but I'm not going to get into a revert war on my first edit. :B → [[User:Peacey_P|☮y P]] … Y'all biscuitheads! 20:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

== Real-World Overkill ==

Is the item "Caesars is a casino brand owned by Harrah's Entertainment" a little overkill on the real-world references? I don't think it's really necessary. --[[User:MadShrubbery|MadShrubbery]] 19:41, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

== Page Title Reference ==

I'm mostly certain that the page title is a reference to comedian Robin Harris' routine "Bebe's Kids" which became a movie in 1992.
:It's already listed in Real World Refs. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 20:23, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

== Gold Digger ==

In explanations it explains what a gold digger is. When did they ever even say that in the toon? [[User:D&d greg|D&d greg]] 20:36, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
: It doesn't, really, but Momkins ''is'' dressed as a prospector. That's probably what the person who wrote that fact was thinking. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
::Would it be better to say "The fact that Momkins goes "prospecting" for ex-husbands refers to the concept of a "gold-digger", which is..."? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 21:28, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

== She gone ==

Probably not worth noting other than here on the talk page, but the way "She gone" was said seems to be very similar to [[Wikipedia:Ken Harrelson|Hawk Harrelson]]'s strikeout call for Chicago White Sox games, "He gone!" Again, probably not noteworthy, but I was just curious if any other Midwesterners on here noticed that as well.[[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 21:33, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

One Two, One Two

2007-05-31T06:47:54Z

Spell4yr: /* Real-World References */

{{toonnav|Shorts|onetwo|Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:One Two.png|thumb|"One, two, one, two...."]]

A music video composed of sounds made by all the main characters.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[The King of Town's Grill]], [[The King of Town's Castle]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Gymnasium]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[Club Technochocolate]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]], [[Outer Space]]

'''Date:''' Monday, May 28, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 1:31

'''Page Title:''' Lookout World!

==Transcript==
''{Open to Homestar walking in The Field.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' One, two, one, two, one, two, one, two... ''{continues in background}''

''{Cut to Strong Mad lifting the cover off The King of Town's grill to reveal The Cheat.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{angry The Cheat noises}''

''{Strong Mad replaces the cover; his reflection is clearly visible}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' GAH!

''{This set of sounds continues in the background; cut to The Poopsmith patting a pile of whatsit. As he does, noises are generated.}''

''{Noise continues in background again; cut back to Strong Mad.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' GAH!

''{All three noises are still playing in background; cut to Bubs using a [[Wikipedia:meat grinder|meat grinder]] to grind various things into sausages}''

'''BUBS:''' Ooh! Ah! A-rink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a...

''{Cut to a 4-way screen split of the four scenes currently going on, sound effects continue.}''

''{Cut back to The Poopsmith. He continues to make noises with the whatsit. Cut to Strong Sad and Coach Z in the gymnasium.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Here I go! ''{pats his belly to make noise; scoreboard buzzes}''

'''COACH Z:''' Atta boy!

''{This continues in the background; cut to The King of Town eating marshmallows.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{eating noises}''

''{Eating noises continue in the background; cut back to Homestar Runner walking.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' One, two...

''{Cut to Coach Z and Strong Sad.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Atta boy!

''{Cut to Pom Pom at Club Technochocolate; he is throwing 100 dollar bills into the air, making bouncing noises.}''

''{Sound effects continue in the background; cut to Bubs}''

'''BUBS:''' A-rink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink...

''{Cut to Strong Bad in the shower, using a showerbrush as a microphone.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I'm a woman on the prowl and I stick up for myself! The city is at night and I'm ''dancin'!''

''{Cut to a 3-way screen split of Pom Pom, Strong Mad and The Cheat, and Homestar.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' ''Dancin'!''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Homsar solo!

''{All sound effects temporarily cease; cut to Homsar in a starry background.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' ''{vaguely similarly to the song Strong Bad was singing}''
AaAaAaA! OurAaAaA! ''{his hat floats around the screen}'' UrAaAaAaA, Uwarwarwarwar! A-way-way-way-waa!

''{All sound effects resume; cut to Marzipan playing her guitar.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{guitar riff}''

''{Sound effects continue; cut to a 4-way screen split of Pom Pom, Bubs, Marzipan and Homestar. Cut to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look out world! I'm an independent girl!

''{On each of the next 5 beats, we cut to The Poopsmith, Strong Sad and Coach Z, The King of Town, Strong Mad and The Cheat, and then Pom Pom.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Rollin' around like a motorcade!

''{Cut to a 4-way vertical screen split of Homsar, The King of Town, Marzipan and Homestar. Then cut to Bubs.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look out world!

''{Cut to a 4-way screen split of Strong Mad and The Cheat, Strong Bad, Strong Sad and Coach Z, and Pom Pom}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm an independent girl! ''{sound effects stop; zoom in on Strong Bad's square}'' ''{out of key}'' You can meet me down at the arcade! ''{no longer singing}'' Whoa. Need to get the acoustics checked out in here. ''{taps the brush he is holding, making a sound like tapping a microphone}'' Is this thing broken?

''{fade out}''

''{The word "END." appears with "MIX YOUR OWN STYLE" written under it. Click on "MIX YOUR OWN STYLE" to go to the [[MixMastah 800]].}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*A [[wikipedia:Motorcade|motorcade]] is a procession of cars leading a VIP, usually a political figure, down a main road.

===Trivia===
*When this toon was first released, the MixMastah was in the same Flash file as the video, and would automatically appear at the end. It was later split out into a separate Flash file, and the toon was modified in order to make the user click a link to reach the MixMastah instead.
*The items Bubs grinds into sausages include a [[steak]], a tennis ball, and a [[General Tso's Chicken|Chinese food]] carton. Even though these items are differently colored, they all come out the same color.

===Remarks===
*Homestar doesn't say "one, two" in time with his walking in some parts.
*The [[Showering|shower]] Strong Bad is in looks exactly like the one on [[Main Page 14]].
*Until around 19:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC), the toon was only linked on the main page, not in the toons menu.
*Bubs is making sausages that are already in their casings and split into links by using nothing but a meat grinder. In real life, one has to stuff the casings and twist into sausages after grinding.


===Goofs===
*Strong Sad pats his belly 20 times, but the scoreboard displays a score of 18 at the end.

===Fixed Goofs===
*When released, this toon had an "Again?" button, but clicking it would cause all the sounds from the MixMastah to continue playing with the replayed toon. This was fixed with the removal of the "Again?" button.
*Before, at one part when The King of Town is eating his marshmallows one would appear to go under and outside his mustache when he eats it.
*In the MixMastah, Pom Pom's sound effect loop also included The Poopsmith's loop. This was fixed when the MixMastah was separated from the main toon.
*At one point, during a cut to Strong Sad and Coach Z, the score on the scoreboard changed from 12 to 2 for a single frame before changing to 13. Also, when it was 13, it just barely stuck out of the box. This has been corrected.

===Inside References===
[[Image:Sketchbook060727.png|thumb|Keep on Trucking!]]
*Homestar Runner's animation is based on a [[Sketchbook 2006#SK-2006-07-27|Weekly Sketchbook]] image, and was previously shown at the [[Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007|Georgia Tech talk]]. A [[graffiti]] image of Coach Z seen behind Strong Sad was also from a [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-05-24|Sketchbook]] image.
*The starry background in the Homsar solo was previously seen in an Easter egg in [[ghosts]].
*This is another example of the word [[style]].
*Striking Strong Sad's belly also scores points in the [[Peg Strong Sad]] game.

===Real-World References===
*The way Homestar walks references the iconic [http://www.zubeworld.com/crumbmuseum/truckin.html "Truckin'"] images by [[Wikipedia:Robert Crumb|R. Crumb]].
* The 'Fightin' Coach Z's' logo, as well as the 180-degree angle of Coach Z's feet, resemble [[Wikipedia:Notre Dame Fighting Irish football|Notre Dame]]'s 'Fighting Irish' logo.
*Pom Pom's money throwing is a reference to the "Makin' It Rain" technique employed by rappers.

== External Links ==
* [[HR:onetwo.html|watch "One Two, One Two"]]
* [[HR:onetwo.swf|view the Flash file for "One Two, One Two"]]
* [[HR:onetwomixer.html|view the "MixMastah 800"]]
* [[HR:onetwomixer.swf|view the Flash file for the "MixMastah 800"]]
* [[Forum:11543|forum thread re: "One Two, One Two"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|onetwo}}
[[Category:Shorts]] [[Category:Songs]]

One Two, One Two

2007-05-31T06:47:05Z

Spell4yr: /* Real-World References */

{{toonnav|Shorts|onetwo|Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene|Strong Bad Sings}}
[[Image:One Two.png|thumb|"One, two, one, two...."]]

A music video composed of sounds made by all the main characters.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[The King of Town's Grill]], [[The King of Town's Castle]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[Gymnasium]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[Club Technochocolate]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]], [[Outer Space]]

'''Date:''' Monday, May 28, 2007

'''Running Time:''' 1:31

'''Page Title:''' Lookout World!

==Transcript==
''{Open to Homestar walking in The Field.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' One, two, one, two, one, two, one, two... ''{continues in background}''

''{Cut to Strong Mad lifting the cover off The King of Town's grill to reveal The Cheat.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{angry The Cheat noises}''

''{Strong Mad replaces the cover; his reflection is clearly visible}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' GAH!

''{This set of sounds continues in the background; cut to The Poopsmith patting a pile of whatsit. As he does, noises are generated.}''

''{Noise continues in background again; cut back to Strong Mad.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' GAH!

''{All three noises are still playing in background; cut to Bubs using a [[Wikipedia:meat grinder|meat grinder]] to grind various things into sausages}''

'''BUBS:''' Ooh! Ah! A-rink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a...

''{Cut to a 4-way screen split of the four scenes currently going on, sound effects continue.}''

''{Cut back to The Poopsmith. He continues to make noises with the whatsit. Cut to Strong Sad and Coach Z in the gymnasium.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Here I go! ''{pats his belly to make noise; scoreboard buzzes}''

'''COACH Z:''' Atta boy!

''{This continues in the background; cut to The King of Town eating marshmallows.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{eating noises}''

''{Eating noises continue in the background; cut back to Homestar Runner walking.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' One, two...

''{Cut to Coach Z and Strong Sad.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Atta boy!

''{Cut to Pom Pom at Club Technochocolate; he is throwing 100 dollar bills into the air, making bouncing noises.}''

''{Sound effects continue in the background; cut to Bubs}''

'''BUBS:''' A-rink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink-a-dink...

''{Cut to Strong Bad in the shower, using a showerbrush as a microphone.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I'm a woman on the prowl and I stick up for myself! The city is at night and I'm ''dancin'!''

''{Cut to a 3-way screen split of Pom Pom, Strong Mad and The Cheat, and Homestar.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' ''Dancin'!''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Homsar solo!

''{All sound effects temporarily cease; cut to Homsar in a starry background.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' ''{vaguely similarly to the song Strong Bad was singing}''
AaAaAaA! OurAaAaA! ''{his hat floats around the screen}'' UrAaAaAaA, Uwarwarwarwar! A-way-way-way-waa!

''{All sound effects resume; cut to Marzipan playing her guitar.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{guitar riff}''

''{Sound effects continue; cut to a 4-way screen split of Pom Pom, Bubs, Marzipan and Homestar. Cut to Strong Bad.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look out world! I'm an independent girl!

''{On each of the next 5 beats, we cut to The Poopsmith, Strong Sad and Coach Z, The King of Town, Strong Mad and The Cheat, and then Pom Pom.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Rollin' around like a motorcade!

''{Cut to a 4-way vertical screen split of Homsar, The King of Town, Marzipan and Homestar. Then cut to Bubs.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Look out world!

''{Cut to a 4-way screen split of Strong Mad and The Cheat, Strong Bad, Strong Sad and Coach Z, and Pom Pom}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm an independent girl! ''{sound effects stop; zoom in on Strong Bad's square}'' ''{out of key}'' You can meet me down at the arcade! ''{no longer singing}'' Whoa. Need to get the acoustics checked out in here. ''{taps the brush he is holding, making a sound like tapping a microphone}'' Is this thing broken?

''{fade out}''

''{The word "END." appears with "MIX YOUR OWN STYLE" written under it. Click on "MIX YOUR OWN STYLE" to go to the [[MixMastah 800]].}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*A [[wikipedia:Motorcade|motorcade]] is a procession of cars leading a VIP, usually a political figure, down a main road.

===Trivia===
*When this toon was first released, the MixMastah was in the same Flash file as the video, and would automatically appear at the end. It was later split out into a separate Flash file, and the toon was modified in order to make the user click a link to reach the MixMastah instead.
*The items Bubs grinds into sausages include a [[steak]], a tennis ball, and a [[General Tso's Chicken|Chinese food]] carton. Even though these items are differently colored, they all come out the same color.

===Remarks===
*Homestar doesn't say "one, two" in time with his walking in some parts.
*The [[Showering|shower]] Strong Bad is in looks exactly like the one on [[Main Page 14]].
*Until around 19:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC), the toon was only linked on the main page, not in the toons menu.
*Bubs is making sausages that are already in their casings and split into links by using nothing but a meat grinder. In real life, one has to stuff the casings and twist into sausages after grinding.


===Goofs===
*Strong Sad pats his belly 20 times, but the scoreboard displays a score of 18 at the end.

===Fixed Goofs===
*When released, this toon had an "Again?" button, but clicking it would cause all the sounds from the MixMastah to continue playing with the replayed toon. This was fixed with the removal of the "Again?" button.
*Before, at one part when The King of Town is eating his marshmallows one would appear to go under and outside his mustache when he eats it.
*In the MixMastah, Pom Pom's sound effect loop also included The Poopsmith's loop. This was fixed when the MixMastah was separated from the main toon.
*At one point, during a cut to Strong Sad and Coach Z, the score on the scoreboard changed from 12 to 2 for a single frame before changing to 13. Also, when it was 13, it just barely stuck out of the box. This has been corrected.

===Inside References===
[[Image:Sketchbook060727.png|thumb|Keep on Trucking!]]
*Homestar Runner's animation is based on a [[Sketchbook 2006#SK-2006-07-27|Weekly Sketchbook]] image, and was previously shown at the [[Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007|Georgia Tech talk]]. A [[graffiti]] image of Coach Z seen behind Strong Sad was also from a [[Sketchbook#SK-2007-05-24|Sketchbook]] image.
*The starry background in the Homsar solo was previously seen in an Easter egg in [[ghosts]].
*This is another example of the word [[style]].
*Striking Strong Sad's belly also scores points in the [[Peg Strong Sad]] game.

===Real-World References===
*The way Homestar walks references the iconic [http://www.zubeworld.com/crumbmuseum/truckin.html "Truckin'"] images by [[Wikipedia:Robert Crumb|R. Crumb]].
* The 'Fightin' Coach Z's' logo, as well as the 180-degree angle of Coach Z's feet, resembles [[Wikipedia:Notre Dame Fighting Irish football|Notre Dame]]'s 'Fighting Irish' logo.
*Pom Pom's money throwing is a reference to the "Makin' It Rain" technique employed by rappers.

== External Links ==
* [[HR:onetwo.html|watch "One Two, One Two"]]
* [[HR:onetwo.swf|view the Flash file for "One Two, One Two"]]
* [[HR:onetwomixer.html|view the "MixMastah 800"]]
* [[HR:onetwomixer.swf|view the Flash file for the "MixMastah 800"]]
* [[Forum:11543|forum thread re: "One Two, One Two"]]

{{subtitlesLinks|onetwo}}
[[Category:Shorts]] [[Category:Songs]]

Talk:the movies

2007-02-21T06:34:28Z

Spell4yr: /* The Homestar */

==newb alert==
* Sorry guys, I'm still new at this. I hate to leave my entries for others to clean up; I promise to learn more soon :) [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 07:21, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
**Don't sweat it. That's why wikis can be edited by anyone. Welcome aboard. [[User:0rion|0rion]] 10:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== ASCII movie ==

Could the ASCII movie possibly be a reference to this [http://geekswithblogs.net/btinkler/archive/2005/03/21/26915.aspx Star Wars ASCII Movie] [http://www.asciimation.co.nz/ (can also be seen here)]? I don't know how common full length ASCII movies are, but something tells me they aren't that popular. --[[User:Electricnet|Electricnet]] 07:53, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
: Could be, although it's kind of a stretch, seeing as the actual "movie" SB watches doesn't have anything to do with Star Wars; maybe if the movie was something sci-fi. I think, more than anything, it's just a reference to SB being hopelessly behind with technology, like when he refered to the Cheat's monitor as having its back chopped off, etc. But then again, what do I know? haha -- [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 07:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::I agree, it's likely not a specific reference to any one ASCII instance. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:50, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I was totally not aware of this movie, but HOLY CRAP it is amazing!!! Thanks for directing us to this! But, no, I don't think it is a reference.[[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 04:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== Chili's fajitas ==

This was probably rightfully removed — while the utensils are identical to those used at Chili's, I'm not surprised that they are used elsewhere. Also, the Mariachi band doesn't fit with Chili's. At any rate, the resemblance of the utensils is strong enough that I think it's worthy of posting on the talk page. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 09:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
*The pans, wooden trays, and tortilla containers that accompany The King of Town's fajitas are the same style as those served at the popular restaurant chain [[Wikipedia:Chili's|Chili's]].

Just to verify that this is not a fun fact, I've seen identical platters at a local Mexican restaurant as well as an Indian restaurant. I guess they've become very popular lately.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 17:56, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I've been to three non-Chili's restaurants in the past year that used the EXACT SAME STUFF. Not a reference to anything in particular. --Steve Worek
:Plently of Mexican places do that and pretty much every time freshly-cooked fajitas are served, they put it in those types of dishes. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 22:23, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::It's just funny how you should say that because just yesterday I went to an Authentic Mexican restaurant, and the EXACT utensils were used. There is no reference to anything in particular, just Mexican food. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 22:38, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:::And I was at about five last week. None of us got fajitas, but there's a Mexican restaurant in the town next to us that uses those same dishes. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 22:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, it seems it's settled then. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::Wow, I'll say. Good work, guys! {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:19, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
*Chili's is not a Mexican restaurant. It's continental. Just FYI. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:36, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== Dangeresque 3 = Duke Nukem Forever (sorta) ==

For some reason, the Dangeresque 3 poster reminded me of a poster I once saw at the local gaming store of Duke Nukem Forever several, several, several years ago. I'm trying to do an image search to see if I can find it (with little luck right now). Anyway, when you think about it, the Dangeresque 3 poster has all those dates scratched off then it says "We'll See..." and Duke Nukem Forever had a buch of dates set, but had delays, delays, and delays, then finally, according to 3D Realms's site, it says [http://www.3drealms.com/duke4/ "When it's done."] - {{User:Neo_foxx000/sig}} 13:09, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

*That's what I thought. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:11, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== Bwoken ==

I keep getting a 404'd when I try to watch this email. Is something wrong with the site, or did someone pour Mountain Dew on my computer again?

Hit Control + F5, that should do it. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 20:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== Dangeresque Poster ==

Should I note (perhaps in "Remarks") that the pair of glasses on the Dangeresque 3 poster seems to be made for three eyes?

==Ice Cold Refreshment==

The "ice cold refreshment" trivia refers to [[Wikipedia: Coca-Cola|Coca-Cola]] games and trivia ads seen before a film. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
: There are plenty of companies that sponsor trivia screens. And plenty of ice-cold refreshments. I'm drinking a Pepsi as we speak. [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 17:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::the red background with the filmstrip on the side is associated with coke. {{User:Csours/sig}} 21:06, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, coca cola is definitely the major sponsor of trivia things at the theater. it looks exactly like that -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 00:17, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Also, Coca-Cola is headquartered in Georgia. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

==Common Problems==

The most common problems with people talking during a film are:
# Giving away the plot during a suspenseful or comedic scene
# Commenting on every scene

[[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:09, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

: I think this is too high a level of "detail." There's not really an authoritative source to compare these statements to. I could, for instance, claim that the most common problem during movies is people making out. Or crappy movies. Doesn't seem like it's noteworthy enough for inclusion on the page. [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 17:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::Forget it then. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:33, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== How much detail? What's a fact? ==
What is the standard for a "fun fact?" Some stuff seems kind of obvious or a stretch like
* "Please turn off your..." usually refers to cell phones and pagers.
* The refreshment trivia about popcorn pricing refers to the common problem with cinemas overpricing their food.
How do you decide if a piece of trivia is noteworthy or, well, just trivial? [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 17:33, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, those really explain the obvious. That's common for early stages of articles; everybody is simply adding everything they can think of. The week or so after the release of the toon is then usually spent debating which facts are important and which aren't.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 19:03, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

::You might take a look at [[HRWiki:Standards#Fun Facts]]. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:13, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== Bet? Dare? Challenge? ==

*After reading off the name and location of the e-mail sender, what is SB talking about when he tells The Cheat "Told you I could do it."? I'm assuming that he was just proving to TC that he could read the details without mangling them, but it might be some more specific inside reference that I'm not aware of. Either way, I think it deserves a mention in the "Explanations" section. - [[User:Uglinessman|Ugliness Man]] 17:41, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
**Seems obvious that he was refering to his tendency to mangle names and places. Whether that's noteworthy, I leave it to others to decide. [[User:Mohan37|Mohan37]] 17:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:::I concur. Ding! Er, I mean, yes, it was his tendency to mangle places and names. Note that he still mangles Cooper's name ''after'' he points out "Todja I could do it!" to The Cheat. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::::That's the first thing I thought of when I saw that part. "Oh, he finally got through a closing without messing it up!" Also, Cooper reminded me of Megas XLR. That show is kewl. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 22:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== Faceless Strong Sad ==

If you view the flash (.swf) file, right at the point where Homestar starts singing "Ever and more! Ever and more!", Strong Sad's face is BLANK. (He seems to lose his features the minute he goes off-screen.) It's off the left edge of the screen when viewing it "normally", so would that be considered a glitch or not? I'm not sure what the proper protocol is ...

In case you want to see what I'm talking about, here's a [http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8776/blankpn7.png Screen Shot] of it (hosted by ImageShack ...)

--[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 18:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
: We do not note "missing" objects outside the frame. The only times we note something unusual outside the frame is if it is something that does not appear in the 'toon itself, like some items in [[garage sale]] or the [[Mustaches|mustache]] in [[Senorial Day]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:14, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

::Gotcha. Thanks! (Noted for future reference.) --[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 19:15, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== Karate Car ==
Could the "Karate Car" movie be considered a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Karate Kid|Karate Kid]]?
:How? --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 21:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::Well, obviously, the names are vaguely similar! Isn't it obvious? Note, that was sarcasm. I'm getting somewhat annoyed at all this "scraping for references" going on here these days... =P -{{User:YK/sig}} 21:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, it's not "Karate Kid" therefore it is not a reference. But I see what you mean by scraping for references. Like, in unnatural Homestar makes a reference to chocolate cake from the previous email and everybody's like "Oh, it is not a reference, he only referenced to the exact thing that just happened last email, just like Strong Bad." --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 22:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
::::No need to get testy, I was just trying to contribute...I'll try to stop "scraping for references."

==Forty-Twan? Forty-Twone? ==
Any reason for it to be 'twan' rather than 'twone'? It seems like Senor Cardgage is mangling the phrase 'forty-one' to me... {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 22:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:Sounds like "twan" to me. Good luck making sense of a lot of stuff Senor Cardgage says. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

::Hm, I think it's forty-twone. Like, a mini-[[Portmanteaus|portmanteau]] of "two" and "one". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:21, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Know what I think?? I think that the MOVIE everyone's seeing is called "Forty-Twone" and that Senor Cardgage and Strong Bad say, "'Forty-Twone' is on your LEFT.", like when movie peoples tell moviegoers where their specified theater is. I definitely hear an f in those sentences. -{{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 23:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC) (PS: This is now my favorite email! Yay, I have one!)

:Yep, I agree. Though Senor Cardgage always says things that are "almost one word and not quite another", what he's getting at is that theater number Forty-twhatever is on their left. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:34, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

== Crowdbreaking ==
So maybe I just don't speak very good "Homestar Runner", but it sounds to me like he says "crowdbreaking" instead of "groundbreaking". [[User:Hrjogger|Hrjogger]] 23:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:It's groundbreaking. That actually makes sense in the context. Just for future notice, whenever you think a character says something that doesn't make sense compared to what we already have in the transcript, you probably just heard wrong. Thanks for posting your opinion, though! :) -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 23:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
No, I don't think he says "crowdbreaking", as there's no such thing. The "N" is clearly audible, and there's no "N" in crowd. Being that I've been to a couple of groundbreakings myself, I fully understand the sentiment of "what is the point of those things?" Plus "crowdbreaking just isn't funny and doesn't make sense. So until next time, keep making stupid remarks, and I'll keep making fun of them. I mean, answering them. Preeeeow. 
[[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 23:53, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

==Please Turn Off Your==

"Please turn off your..." usually refers to electronic devices such as cell phones and pagers. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that's already in explanations, why did you repeat it here? [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 00:28, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

:Someone removed it. I'll put it back. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
::I really don't think that needs to be explained. That's why I removed it earlier. Someone further up the page already noted that it is too obvious. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:50, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

==The Cheat talks again!==

Doesn't the first thing that The Cheat say sound ironically like "Yeah, yeah."? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 00:35, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
:The Cheat has done that before, it's no big mystery. -{{User:Stinkoman K/Sig}} 00:49, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== The Homestar ==

I think that Homestar singing "Ever More" is a reference to Edgar Allen Poe's "The Raven." Anyone agree with me?
:I'd have to say no, seeing as it doesn't make any sense whatsoever in this context. If "The Raven" was a song, and this was a Halloween toon, then it may have been plausible.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 03:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
::For the record, "The Raven" was made into a song in the 1970s by the Alan Parsons Project. Which is a good song, but doesn't sound anything like what Homestar says.[[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 06:34, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
:No, sorry. It's totally not in the right context, and "Ever and more" foesn't really sound like it would be from "The Raven," where the repeated words are "nevermoer" and "evermore" along with very similar permutations. I'd say that this is much too far of a stretch (Strong Bad could do cartwheels for as long as this is a stretch). [[User:EYanyo|EYanyo]] 04:34, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== Subtitle madness ==

Can anyone tell me why people have started adding subtitles that show one part of a quote at the left, then the second in the middle or right? It just seems really unnecessary to me. [[User:Tony Myers|Tony Myers]] 04:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

:I don't see any subtitles being rendered side-by-side in this email. It might be my userscript is out of date (?). Are the subtitles being spoken by two characters? (Or, a soundeffect in addition to speech?). {{User:Bryanc/sig}} 04:55, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

::He's talking about where sometimes in the script, the line is shown gradually, rather than all at once. It's generally used if the pieces are too small to make them a line of their own, but showing them all at once would spoil some punchline... though more often it's added for comedic effect (such as Homestar in [[long pants]]), and I agree that it's a bit overused in this way (every now and again is fine, but it doesn't need to be used every email). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== Progrum? ==

In the transcript, the announcements says to turn off bazookas before the "progrum." This is, I assume, a phonetic rendering of the way the announcer pronounces the word "program" in the cartoon. My personal experience probably doesn't matter much, but I've heard "progrum" (as the announcer says it) used as a conventional pronounciation of the word "program." Perhaps a phonetic spelling isn't necessary?

BTW, this seems to suggest that the cartoon's pronounciation is conventional.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/program

:The transcriber noticed it because the word [[Progrum|progrum]] has been used before.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
::I believe, unless something's specifically spelt out for us, we try to match what was said phonetically (a good example being Coach Z). Furthermore, "[[Progrum|progrum]]" is something of an inside joke on H*R. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 05:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes, that is an acceptable pronunciation; the only reason we spell it that way when we transcribe it is that [[:Image:sbinterview logo.png|it has appeared as such in print]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 05:07, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

User:Spell4yr

2007-02-04T06:45:10Z

Spell4yr:

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==Biography==
'''Spell4yr''' is a relatively recent convert to the world of Homestar Runner. He disliked the site until a friend of his continuously watched the emails in 2004 (the chronology is somewhat uncertain, but must be in the early part of 2004, since it coincided with the "Spare Key" email rap). He began watching the emails and enjoyed them, and then enjoyed the other toons on the site as well.

Spell4yr's beginning was somewhat uneventful. He was born Stephen ... um, H., on December 19, 1984 at Exeter Hospital in Exeter, N.H. He has claimed Seabrook, N.H. as his town of residency for his entire life (save for about a month spent in Newburyport, Mass., following the death of his grandfather). Attending Seabrook Elementary School he found his greatest achievement, winning four spelling bees in four years between the fifth and eighth grades (which albeitly, considering many of his classmates, wasn't much of an achievement). His username was a result of misguided egotism and a mistaken assumption that Hotmail restricted usernames for email accounts to no more than eight letters. Spell4yr then went on to Winnacunnet High School in Hampton, N.H., in the technology and engineering career track, and was a member of the twice-state-champions school math team, a trombone/tuba player for the band, and, for two years, a copy editor on the student newspaper. A successful academic career led him to enrollment at [http://www.valpo.edu Valparaiso University] in northwest Indiana, which he has attended for two and a half years, majoring in meteorology and mathematics.

He is well known for incredible lapses in memory and general absent-mindedness; he has tried to improve over the years but has only gotten much worse. He has joked that he marks his territory by leaving things behind in places he has been (usually pens or receipts, sometimes hats or other larger items). Spell4yr has not had much luck with the ladies (probably at least partially due to the forgetfulness), and does not expect prospects to improve anytime soon.

'''Domicile:''' IP address to be researched later 
'''Debut:''' editing a comma in [[geddup noise]]

==Wiki User Video Transcript==
''{'''Page Title:''' Four more years!} {'''Place:''' Valparaiso University}

''{The scene starts on the campus, in the middle of a large field. People walk on the pathways in the background, but Spell4yr is nowhere to be seen.}''

'''CAMERAMAN:''' Hey, we're rolling!

'''SPELL4YR:''' Sorry, I can't really focus right now!

''{The camera drops downward to show Spell4yr frantically searching through the grass for something.}''

'''CAMERAMAN:''' You'll just have to do this and then go back to that later! Don't worry about it right now!

'''SPELL4YR:''' Okay ... ''{gets up}'' Well, I'm Spell4yr. I can spell, and to answer you wackos on Yahoo! Messenger, that does not refer to witchcraft. So don't even ask me that. I like listening to music, and having good, clean, non-alcoholic fun, and ... sorry, I just can't do this! I have to find my keys!

'''CAMERAMAN:''' Whatever.

''{Spell4yr searches for a little while longer, then all of a sudden shakes his pocket inadvertently. It jingles.}''

'''SPELL4YR:''' Oh. They're right in here.

==Fun Facts==
*"Four more years" is typically used as some sort of campaign slogan for presidents seeking reelection.
*Spell4yr is standing/searching through a section of campus that once housed Moellering Library, which was demolished in May 2005 due to architectural and asbestos problems, in addition to being replaced the year before by the Christopher Center for Library and Information Resources.
**The Christopher Center is named after Jay and Doris Christopher. Jay is an alumnus of the university, and Doris created the Pampered Chef company of cooking products.

==What's Next?==
Spell4yr has decided over the next few weeks and months to undertake a project to gather together any and all multiple real-world references of the same subject, even if the references themselves aren't related, so that they can be more easily attained from one source (without having to do a search for that item). More info on this to come.

Talk:keep cool

2007-02-04T06:43:27Z

Spell4yr: /* Sou' Sou'west or South Southwest? */

==DS?==

What do you suppose Homestar's marking as "ds" means? I can think of one that's not family friendly, but other options? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:My guess is on Dumb Star, or something like that. He previously called Homestar that in an email, I think, but I am not sure. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I'm guessing it's a reference to the Nintendo DS. It has been shown again and again that TBC are Nintendo fans. At least, the DS was what I first thought of when I saw that. My two cents. {{User:Alcnolien/sig}} 20:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:::It's almost certainly "duckshirt." That's pretty much a synonym for Homestar, and in [[flashback]], SB uses "Duckshirt" as Homestar's name. [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 20:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I concur: Duckshirt is the answer. [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 14:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yea, I'd have to say duck shirt, it fits better than the other options. [[User:Vash Lupin VI|Vash Lupin VI]] 20:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::I think dumbstar makes more sense, because duck shirt is only in flashback, and it's a specific refrence to homestar wearing a duck shirt. Granted, dumbstar has only been said once as well, but it seems to more universally cover Homestar in general.--[[User:208.54.15.129|208.54.15.129]] 01:04, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Maybe it's just the "sb" on the Strong Bad cutout mirrored. {{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}}
::If that's the case then the "s" would be backwards.
:When I first saw it, it seemed like the "ds" was just a (poor) phonetic spelling of "this". He IS saying that as he cycles through the images. Not everything needs to be a reference! :P This simply seems like a bit of overthinking to me. 16:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, not everything needs to be a reference, but all the other labels are names or nicknames. It's not overthinking if things like it are obviously references.[[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Dosent DS mean Dip Sh**? I remember that from my elemntary school years.--{{User:Finest1/sig}} 12:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:I personally thought Nintendo DS. But duck shirt seems like the best choice. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
Foxtrotblues]] 23:09, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, when I saw it I was like "Oh, Dual Screen" but then, why would they do that? I think it's agreed that it stands for duckshirt {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 01:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
:Fact is, it's all speculation. Unless they reveal something in the future, this will never be Fun Fact material. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:25, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
::I thought it would be dipstick or something like that...-[[User:Cool Tapes.exe|You know who it is! But if not, click here to find out!]]
== Baseball reference ==

Strongsad's Easteregg mentioning Baseball could be a reference to the MLB Trade Deadline (which ends in 20 minutes)
:Doubtful - TGS11 had a baseball ref too. I think TBC just like baseball. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== Sticklyman's Return! ==
No running, no diving, and no swimming; All represented by the pudding-shoveler himself! --[[User:207.69.139.8|207.69.139.8]] 19:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah, but are you sure it's Sticlyman? Does he have a shovel? Is he into light fighting? Or maybe he's just the typical guy-on-a-sign stick man. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:I hate you. My hopes and dreams rise up and you cruelly shoot them down with your harsh words. I will have my revenge, jerk! --[[User:207.69.139.8|207.69.139.8]] 20:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::That was kind'a rude, Qermac, but I suspect a block-in-progress, Mr. IP {{User:Stongbah/sig}} 21:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:::There was nothing rude about what Qermaq said. He was just making the facts obvious.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::::In a somewhat funny way too. I don't think it's sticklyman. Although I'd like to see him return for another challeeeeenge one day!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::Don't block the IP. It's real hard to express sarcasm on the 'net; it might have been a sarcastic remark. On that note, I think Stinkoman killed Sticklyman. --[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== no clicky on the lappy ==

when you click the lappy's screen, the pressure waves don't show up.

:Sure they do. I just did it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

::They don't show up after Strong Bad falls through the roof. --[[User:Ragey|Ragey]] 22:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== Up, A, and Start ==

Does this reference any particular video game? If it were just Up+A, I'd be sure it was a reference to Metroid or both Legend of Zelda games on the NES (using that code on a second controller would save your progress and restart) but I can't think of any games that used Up+A and Start. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 20:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:You are almost certainly right. In fact, the Up+A on the second controller trick only works when you have paused (pressed start) on the first controller. I'm going to add it to the real-world references section. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:58, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think it refers to any video game, he's just making up a cheat code. [[User:Swimma Dan|Swimma Dan]] 22:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::I agree with Swimma Dan. The Metroid and Zelda references don't make sense because you have to press Start before hand. That's not Up, A, Start, that's Start, A, Up. And if we're going to accept Kirby's Dream Land, where it's Up, A, Select, then are we going to accept codes that go Up, B, Start, or Down, A, Start, or A, Up, Start? Unless someone can find a game code that goes exactly "Up, A, Start", I think this should be changed to a more general reference about video game codes. [[User:70.224.249.166|70.224.249.166]] 00:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Agreed, I figured it was just a generic cheat code thing, not a reference to a specific game. The Zelda reference might make sense, but I think the Kirby one is really stretching it (it's not even the same code!). As for the Metroid thing, I'm probably going to make myself sound really stupid here, but didn't Metroid use ''passwords'', not save files? At least the US version did. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 01:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Metroid did use passwords, Mr. Saturn. However, if you paused and hit Up+A on Controller 2, you would get brought to the password screen, and you can restart the game from there. I've seen this trick in the various tool-assisted speedruns of the game. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 04:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I'd have to agree with the Generic Game Code people. We could make a poll though {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::Another point in favor of a reference to the Zelda games and Metroid is that it fits the context. In the games, you would want to save your progress using this trick before you went in to a dungeon or some place where you might die. In the toon, Strong Bad urges swimmers who have just eaten to do this before they reenter the pool, presumably so that if they died they could start again from the point right before entering the pool. If I'm not mistaken, that's part of the joke SB's making. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 19:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::"If they died they could start again"? I don't see that at all. To me, it sounds like he's just adding something ridiculous onto a list of other ridiculous things. I agree that if TBC were referencing those games, they would have said "Start, A, Up." I think it's just general. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:18, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Well, I think there's enough of a consensus here to remove the fact in question. Oh well :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::There is a button combo in the original Kirby for GB that unlocked the "hard mode". It was Up+A+SELECT and not start, but maybe this is what some people are thinking. I thought that at first, but it has been so long since I played the game that I forgot it. I don't think they had a specific game in mind when they wrote that. {{User:NFITC1/sig}}

== Long Pants? ==

Is it me, or is Homestar wearing his 'long pants' in the 'ool? (~InvaderJem)
:According the Strongbad, he doesn't have [[long pants]]. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::True, but that's why I put quote-marks. Homestar insists that he wears long pants, though...
:::What are you getting at? {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 20:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Since his "long pants" are really just his bare skin, what else would he be wearing in the pool? It's not like he can take ''that'' off. --[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 21:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::I guess that's true.
::::::Yeah, do you take off your leg skin when you go swimming? And if so, are you some kind of robot? And if so, do you use your powers for good, or for awesome? Would you like to join forces? I just happen to be the greatest criminal mind of our time. -[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Pooling ==

How about the fact that the "pool" had been previously mentioned here [http://www.homestarrunner.com/hs6.html]

:I think that might pass off as a fun fact. Nice find, there! (~InvaderJem)
::See [[Swimming Pool]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

It seems more likely to be the pool from [[A Jumping Jack Contest]].
:Was there not also a pool mentioned in [[other days]], when Strong Bad had swim practice? Apparently he's finished them as well as lifeguard training since then. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
::[[other days]] doesn't directly mention a pool, but where else would Strong Bad and Strong Sad have swim practice?{{User:The_Spainish_Inquisition/sig}}
:::They had a pool back in [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] and [[Theme Song Video]]. [[User:75.22.195.241|75.22.195.241]] 02:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::The Color Pallette in the backdrop of the 'ool is similar to the older cartoons, too. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::Color palette? Huh? Anyway, [[Swimming Pool]] mentions all the above. That's the place for pool sightings. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Mr. Chek(h)ov ==

I'm pretty sure this is a double reference to both the writer and the Star Trek character. Yeah, they're spelled differently, but who ever calls Anton Chekhov "Mr. Chekhov"? However, Kirk did call his Chekov "Mr." all the time...
:It's not going to be TTATOT. If they were referencing Star Trek, they'd have spelled it Chekov. They didn't, so I doubt it's a ST reference at all, especially as Chekhov is even more famous. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Not only that, but Anoton Chekhov is someone Strong Sad would be reading. It's Strong Sad. I mean, come on.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 07:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes. Obviously, Strong Sad would read Chekhov. So it's a reference to the author. But nobody calls Anton Chekhov "Mr.". That is obviously (I think) a reference to the Star Trek character. It's a joke. And I think that it's worth putting in the explanation because many people won't know what it's about. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I removed the Chekov reference based on points above. It's this, that and the other thing if it's a reference to both. And it's spelled like the author, not the navigator, so it's clear which was being referenced. Now, IF "Mr. Chekov" is included, I can live with it, but not without. Otherwise it's like saying that Monkey D is a reference to Sunny D, Tenacious D and Sandra Dee. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC) (Add: And by "living with it" I am saying I still don't agree, but can let it go. But we're a bit too generous in claiming what's a reference around here. Without an explanation of why "Mr. Chechov" might be referring to a guy with a differently-spelled name, it seems out of place and random, and reduces the knowledge-base-ness of the page.)
:Nice, we were working on it at the same time... I reckon "Mr. Checkov" is simply such an iconic name that "Mr. Chekhov" is an obvious reference for someone who knows Star Trek. And there have been made enough ST references by TBC that I believe they do know ST. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Yup; sorry Qermaq, but I gotta disagree with you on this one. If it's not a reference, it's a goof, and I'd like to think they know how to spell it. Plus, suppose they were simply thinking of Chekhov, and Chekov never entered their minds; why choose the "Mr." title? It's a strange choice for an anthology or biography. And it would be a stranger coincidence for it to mirror the Star Trek usage accidentally. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Nah, I don't think this is a goof. Chekhov sounds like the kind of stuff that Strong Sad was reading. He doesn't strike me as the type who reads Star Trek anthologies. Anyway, the way the fact is written now, everybody can make up their own mind. {{User:Loafing/sig}} 20:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
You guys are all forgetting that this is a funny cartoon. It's a joke. Strong Sad was reading Anton Checkhov, but the brothers, in Strong Bad-style humor, added "Mr." to the front of it, referring to Pavel Chekov, more or less to make fun of the author and/or Strong Sad. I mean, couldn't you totally see Strong Bad making fun of someone's name in this way?--[[User:208.54.15.129|208.54.15.129]] 01:17, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
:What does Strong Bad's sense of humor have to do with Strong Sad's choice of reading material? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:25, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
::Because Strong Bad's sense of humor and TBC's sense of humor are pretty much one in the same. I'm just saying, Strong Bad is always making fun of peoples names, and intentionally crossing Chekov with Checkhov seems like something he would do, right? Well, TBC are the ones that come up with all the jokes, so it's not unlikely that they would put just such a joke on the cover of that book.--[[User:24.107.30.56|24.107.30.56]] 20:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

== Progressive progress ==

Is anyone still currently working on the transcript? When I stopped, I took the "inprogress" template off... If whoever's working on it now is going really slowly, that's one thing, but it's kinda rude to leave the template there and just stop. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

== The school aways had an elevator! ==

Is anyone else thinking that this particular line might be a reference to Saved by the Bell? Specifically, that time the school suddenly had an elevator for Zack to deliver Mr. Belding's son in? - [[User:81.157.53.124|81.157.53.124]] 21:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

--I think it is a refrence to that, and many other TV shows where the charecters go to a second floor, basement, pool, etc.

Or, maybe it was like my school, where there was no elevator, and there was no swimming pool, but all the freshman were sold swimming pool passes and elevator passes by the upperclassmen.
::It makes more sense that it was the Saved by the Bell episode, because it's referring to how their cartoon and the TV show suddenly and conveniently had something that was never obviously there before for sake of the plot.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::However: they '''have''' always had this pool. Since one of the very first animated toons. So the analogy doesn't really apply, does it? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that's true. I'd say maybe TBC forgot, but if you go to the flash file for Theme Song Video and look at how they did the water effect, it looks like the same piece makes up the wavy top of the water in both toons. *shrug* It makes more sense the way I said it. lol. I'm not really sure on this.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 18:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Someone, perhaps anonymous above, added a Fun Fact linkin SB's line to a supposedly common prank by upperclassmen of making freshmen believe in nonexistant pools or elevators. I left it alone simply because I can't think of another way to make sense of his line, but at the moment it's a purely anecdotal Fun Fact. If it's going to stay, it would be nice to have some kind of documentation showing that this has happened to more than one person. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::When I saw it, I immediately thought of Saved By The Bell. I've been watching the sbemails for a long time, and I hadn't remembered the pool. Even if they remembered that it was there, the average viewer has never heard of them having a pool, so for SB to say that the pool's always there and they use it all the time seems on par with suddenly announcing Bayside had an elevator, and it's been there all along and people use it all the time.

:I, for one, have heard of this prank as far back as sixteen years ago, and when I first heard it in junior high it was presented as something that had been making the rounds for quite a while. When we got to high school, we always joked about how the gag didn't exactly work there (because that building did in fact have an elevator, albeit not one open to normal student use). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Whether or not the prank exists, I don't think it could be a reference to that. Clearly, Strong Bad isn't pranking anyone--the pool does exist. He isn't selling pool items or fooling people. I never watched Saved by the Bell that much, but I immediately recognized what he was making fun of: places or things suddenly appearing conveniently, which happens as often in the Homestarrunner universe as anywhere. [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:::At my school, we had a freight elevator I used to move my drums downstairs, and the upperclassmen convinced me there was a snake pit under there. Oh, and on the subject, I thought that was Strong Bad's pool in A Jumping Jack Contest. [[User:Foxtrotblues| - Foxtrotblues]] 23:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

::::As I said, I really don't think it's a reference to that whether or not the prank exists. And if it is, it shouldn't be in "Remarks." Are there any objections to removing the fact or at least stuffing it? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::You should make that fact a splode.[[User:Foxtrotblues| - Foxtrotblues]] 23:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::The SbtB reference is probably not far-fetched. However, since I hate that show (and practically everything that came out of the 80's now) it was not the first thing that came to my mind. I've always heard of the prank and knew a few people that fell for it and some that did it when they were upper-classmen. Perhaps a FF mentioning both possibile origins of the joke is in order. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 03:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

:Folks: The Pool has been there forever. We have not seen it for 5 years. If the Marshmallow Shop shows up next week, we won't be talking about it appearing out of nowhere. Please see [[Swimming Pool]] for more. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:I think it is about the high school prank, its the first thing I thought of when he said it. My school told freshman the same thing, that there was a pool on the (non existant) second floor. Strong Bad uses a kinda sarcastic tone when he talks about the pool and the school elevator. He also states that they use the pool all the time, which is clearly not true. Why would he even mention a school with an elevator, or that they've always had a pool if it wasn't meant to be funny? I doubt he would just like to remind viewers that the pool has always existed.

== Einstein and Muffled?==
<blockquote>STRONG BAD: So later on anybody wanna get together a game of "Sharks and Minnows"? "Einstein and [muffled]"? "Pregnant and seventeen"?</blockquote>
It seems to me that Strong Bad says "Einstein and Kreskin," likely a refrence to [[wikipedia:kreskin |The Amazing Kreskin]].
I'll refrain from changing the article untile there's a consensus. [[User:216.229.35.170|216.229.35.170]] 23:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:Well, someone just made the edit. Nevermind.[[User:216.229.35.170|216.229.35.170]] 23:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
:Second reference to pregnant teenagers, with the Cheat Commando's setting precedence?
::Sorry, I removed that. Noting the first instance of something is ''sometimes'', conceivably, worthwhile. Noting the second and third and so on gets hard. (Plus, I think "seventeen" was a reference to the magazine, though I haven't found a "''Pregnant''" magazine.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I fail to see how you infer a Seventeen magazine reference here. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Inflated The Cheat ==

In regards to the Inside Reference of the Helium email, I'm not certain the cheat is actually inflated, from what I can tell he just seems to be leaning back (or tilting his head up) -{{Tempestryder}}
---He is neither inflated nor lying on his back. I present you with this image.
[[Image:Dacheet.JPG ]]
cessna man!

:I find myself to be skeptical as well. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::Well, he sure looks inflated to me... Perhaps not quite in the same way, but much rounder in some way. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::The cheat is a pudge like thing. He has no feet, it kind of just has skin folds near the bottom of him. In order to swim forward, a normal person would need to kick their feet... apparently the cheat leans his bottom half backward and it causes a bend in him, making him look puffed up. He uses his arms to paddle. This also makes him look kind of like a boat. Regardless, I don't think he is inflated at all.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 06:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Claiming he's inflated is pure speculation. He could easily be arching his body to propel himself across the water's surface. We really don't know anything about his physiology to assume he can or cannot inflate. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::He looks like a duck. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 10:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::He's obviously lying on his stomache lifting his head up. {{User:Salty/sig}} 17:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:Since most of us seem to be in agreement, should the inside reference to Helium made on the article page be removed? --{{User:Tempestryder}}
::I'd say yes, from the looks of it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::: I'd say he's a speedboat, or a hydro. Especially because of the sound effects. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:::: now i really really want a the cheat... {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::He looks poofier, but it could be an artist's error (no offesnse TBC). To see examples of artist errors, watch the first episode of Family Guy. Brian's Head keeps changing shape. It's probably just the difficulty of drawing him in this position. [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::(sigh) There's no error, I'm sure. To me, The Cheat is arched back, paddling away, making motorboat sounds. Sometimes it's as simple as it looks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::As an animator, I have to say that I sometimes just make quick things that don't have that much detail when they're only going to be on the screen for a few seconds. I'd have to agree that the cheat is a speedboat type thing in this cartoon, but I wouldn't really count any tiny troubles in turning him into one as artist errors. To me it looks like he's on his stomach. Sorry I'm still an IP, [[User:207.7.187.135|207.7.187.135]] 18:02, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

The stand-up comic [http://www.brianregan.com/index.html Brian Regan] has a bit about being able to skim across the top of a pool like a dolphin standing on its tail. The gag is basically about not getting very wet and impressing people. Could The Cheat be preforming a similar, dolphin-acrobatic move? --[[User:216.54.161.254|216.54.161.254]] 02:28, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

== Funny and true ==

It has been hot in Sunnyvale, Ca. I know this because I live there. Unfortunately, I didn't write this one, but I'm glad Strong Bad knows about it. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
:Yeah, it's been hot in St. Louis, too. It's been constantly in the triple digits. I sent SB an e-mail 'bout it, but I guess it just didn't cut it. Hey, did your power go out? Mine was out for 5 days.{{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:No, thank god. Of course, we dont have AC, so it wouldnt have made difference, coolness wise. But at least our food didnt cook in the fridge. That blackout must have sucked! -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 01, 19:51:15 UTC
::Yeah, it did. And I just heard that more people in my area who already had their power out for numerous days are going out again- electric company says it's because of the heat. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::guess what! its hot in texas. everybody here is like: "So What?" its always 100 degrees. and we still go to work, outside, in the sun. uphill. both ways. my sympathy truly goes out to the families who have lost ppl. but seriously guys. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Guess what? It's ''always'' hot in Texas. If we lived in Texas, we'd be like "So what?" too. But we don't. And we think it's hot. I'm sorry about the hills. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, we know it's hot in Texas. That's why we don't live there. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 02, 19:09:45 UTC
:::::It's so hot in Chicago! I'd go [[User:Foxtrotblues|complain]] about it but I don't know what to write... [[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

===Heat wave===

no doubt about th heat wav. I mean, even in Seattle it's boiling hot! --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 06:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:In Michigan, my city had a low temperature of 81 degrees F (27 degrees C) this morning. That's a record high minimum temperature. At eleven o'clock last night, it still felt like (heat index) 100 F (38 C). And that's not the worst of it. Ask the people from St. Louis and central Illinois how hot it is. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

::I live in St. Louis and was getting up in the triple digits pretty much all of last week. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Most of the north SF Bay Area was up in the 110s last weekend (I think the high in my city was 115?). Plus, traffic was terrible as a lot of lights were out. It was awful trying to get around in a car without a/c. Imagine our relief when the heat wave started going down--"Yes! It's in the high 90s!!!!" [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 16:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::You got that right. Here in NC, summer is hard enough normally, but this summer is crazy. It's still in the 80s at 9PM.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 01:33, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: Actually, I live on the outskirts of Seattle, and the heat wave has (at least for now) passed around here. It dropped to the 60s or low 70s (normal for summer in this area) last weekend. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

This discussion might be better suited to the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum].  I'll leave this here as it displays the meteorogical significance of this toon, but let's move future weather-related discussion to the forum, please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Ool, not Pool ==

After Homestar crashes through Strong Bad's roof. He says "Uh, Strong Bad, I think that total wave ruined your ool." That's "Ool" not "Pool" as the transcript currently reads. This is in reference to the "There is no P in our pool, please keep it that way" Sign referenced in the toon. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]]
: You could have just updated the transcript yourself and explained your reasoning in the summary... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:: ....oh yeah...duh... Thanks!
:::i think he says "that toadal wave ruined your ool... {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:11, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::It's hard to tell with his lisp. He's not known for pronouncing his Ts. I think "Total" works better anyway. -[[User:Jesselangham|JesseLangham]] Aug. 02, 19:10:58 UTC

== Goofs - The parenthesis ==

Are you guys sure this is a goof? When i first watched it I took it as an apostrophe. Ie: for the marking of a missing letter --ME!

:I'm confused, so I'll elaborate on what we're talking about: it's the ( right before "Notice." There is an apostrophe on the sign for comparison, i.e. in 'ool. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Ahhh dont mind me then, your right i was wrong. I thought it meant the apostrophe in 'ool :D

== Marzi's green hair ==

Any chance that her green hair is a reference to Diff'rent Strokes? There was an ep where Kimberly washed her hair using acid rain water (which contained lots of chemicals, like the 'ool) and the result was her hair turned green. [[User:AcidHelmNun|Mike]] 06:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Was I the only one reminded of that Falling Sand java game? The "plant" sand is green and burns away like Marzi's hair.
:According from a few posts in the forum, it's apparently a somewhat common real-world occurance for blondes to have their hair turn green from pool chemicals.
I don't think it's a reference to any particular TV show. My wife has very thin, natural blond hair, and when she was young and at the pool all the time, her hair would turn very green. It's a reaction to the chlorine in the water. So, it's not a problem limited to dyed blonds as the article currently states.--[[User:Eepiccolo|eepiccolo]] 15:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I admit it, I was reaching. ;) [[User:AcidHelmNun|Mike]] 04:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I have naturally blonde hair, and my hair turns a slight greenish tint when I've been in a pool with chlorine. It's a natural occurance. And it washes out. --S

== Nu-uh! Still the third wall! ==

The article currently states that when Strong Bad explains what Strongbadia is and is not, it is one of the most abrupt fourth wall breaks to date. There was a discussion over a similar incident a while back in the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Talk:mile talk page for "mile"]. Basically, the Strong Bad emails are based on the premise that he is answering his emails for an audience. I honestly don't care that much about the consistency, but these are the kinds of things the wiki loves to bicker over.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 16:10, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:Yup. That's why I removed it. Even if it were a break, it's certainly not "one of the most abrupt to date", but it's not. What we're seeing qualifies as Strong Bad's imagination--characters aren't really blank spaces--and simply pointing out which location is Strong Badia and which are not... I have no idea how that's supposed to be a break. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::I put it back. When I originally wrote it, I admitted it could be reworded, so if you see a way to fix it up then feel free. The break is ''not'' the part where we see the character cutouts. The break ''is'' the part where Strong Bad freezes the supposedly live "webcast", takes us on a trip around FCUSA, offers us a high five, and then restarts the action. Essentially he is speaking directly ''for TBC'' and addressing the real viewers—you and me—about an apparently common misconception ''outside the continuity'' of the actual email. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Just wondering--where is it ever stated that sbemails are live? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::You do have a point there — in [[Weclome Back]], Strong Bad was attempting to record a sbemail with a video camera. Nevertheless, that one uncharacteristically had "REC" and a flashing dot in the corner of the screen. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 23:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Other instances include The Cheat's watching [[huttah]] on his computer. But never mind the "live" bit; it's secondary to my point. My point is that TBC, using Strong Bad, brought the email to a complete halt and directly addressed the fans in order to clear up something a lot of fans no doubt get wrong. It's also noteworthy that the little digression was not brought up in the rest of the email. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::I thought that Strong Bad pointed out what Strong Badia was because he wanted to trick people into thinking that the pool is in Strong Badia. "In the pool that we've always had... that we use all the time..." reinforces this. This is beside the point of whether or not it's a FWB. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:56, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
"Third wall"... there's a term I've never heard used before... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:While I accept that you may be joking there: breaking the fourth wall comes from the thought that the front of the stage in a theater represents a wall of whatever room is portrayed on the set, so by breaking that wall it allows the characters to see (and interact with) the audience. (I have also heard it said that the first wall is letting the characters know the script, 2nd is awareness that thy are in a play, 3rd is ability to change anything based on these, and 4th is audience involvement, but i dont accept this) -- The annony formerly known as DumbMuscle (sister's compy due to technical problems)
:: I know what "breaking the fourth wall" means. My comment was directed at the title of this topic ("Still the third wall!") So... Strong Bad's breaking the third wall or something? (As a note, I have never heard of the "first wall is letting the characters know the script" etc. thing before and think that whoever told it to you made it up.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Sou' Sou'west or South Southwest? ==

In the second Easter Eggs, Strong Sad clearly says "sou' sou'west" instead of "south southwest". Is this a reference to something? I recall similar pronounciations for compass points in the movie "Master and Commander", is it old British Navy jargon? At any rate, I changed the transcript (without explaination, my bad) to reflect this contraction but it was reverted, so I figured I'd start a discussion topic on it.--[[User:Adrock|Adrock]] 20:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
: I don't think it's an intentional reference as much as just how it's said in that dialect [[User:Vash Lupin VI|Vash Lupin VI]] 20:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::I don't know. On one hand, they could be making some kind of joke, or Matt could have just stuttered {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 20:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
"South-southwest" is one of the [[Wikipedia:Boxing the compass|principal points]] on a compass.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 21:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::The reference is to a NorEaster, which is a typical way of describing a storm that comes in from the NorthEast.
:::He definitely said sou'sou'west, and yes, this is how mariners talk. among other ways.{{User:Csours/sig}} 05:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Loafing's got a point there. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 12:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::It's not a reference to anything. Strong Sad is just dropping consonants because he's relaxed/tired. My NOAA weather radio is always telling me winds are south-southwest at 5-10 knots. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Gah! To the anonymous poster who "defined" a Nor'Easter, you made this meteorologist cringe! Nor'easters move TO the northeast, and typically have northeast winds on their northwestern side ... they definitely do not move southwestward (or from the northeast) ... [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 00:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Was this changed recently, and I missed the memo? From [[Wikipedia:Windsock]]:<blockquote>Note that wind directions are conventionally specified as being the compass point from which the wind originates; so a windsock pointing due north indicates a southerly wind</blockquote>This is the way I've always seen it quoted... a nor'easter blows ''from'' the northeast, a sou'wester blows ''from'' the southwest, and is also a type of [[Wikipedia:Sou'wester|sailor's hat]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:21, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Much delayed reply -- I was only quibbling with the comment that a nor'easter "comes in from the northeast." The wind does, yes, but the storm moves northeast. They develop in the southeast and move up the east coast, not southward from Nova Scotia.[[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 06:43, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

== Twin Characters? ==

Does Strong Bad interrupting himself to explain what Strongbadia is count as an appearance of [[Twin Characters]]? {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:I don't think so. I think it's a fourth-wall break, discussed above. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
::From Twin Characters: "where a single character appears more than once in the same scene." That's all the description given. Why can't it be both? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 03:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Usually, in the Twin Characters instances, they tend to react to each other, I think. Strong Bad's pauses the action, coming up in a separate place entirely. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Agree with DG up above. It's a seperate instance of the same character, the original footage is stopped so that he can make a point and resume. They are in fact the same Strong Bad so it is not an instance of twin characters. Maybe the description should be updated so that it makes more sense. I imagine for the twin characters situation to apply they must react to one another or it must be done in a way so that both characters are in the same scene in "real-time." Or in other words, no pausing the action and then resuming like in this toon.--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 05:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::yea, not twin characters, post-production. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== strong mad-nami ==

this might be too vague/general/overanalytical for a fun fact, but strong mad jumping into the pool is similar to the action of a tsunami, ie, you dont see the effect in deep water, only when the wave gets to the shallows does the compression lead to a severe rise in water level. just a thought. {{User:Csours/sig}} 05:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

It is too overanalytical. But we can make it better:

The way the tidal wave behaves is similar to the behavior of a [[wikipedia:Tsunami|Tsunami]].
[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

:I'd say its really more of a comic device than any kind of scientific thing. Because first your surprised by such a tiny splash he makes, and then your surprised again after that by the enormous "total wave." It's doubly surprising. --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

::I think it's just a joke, and requires no reference-related explanation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

==Left-handed?==

When Strong Bad says "Gimme a high five" he raises his left hand. Could this possibly mean he left-handed. Being right-handed, I find it fairly uncomfortable to high five with my left hand. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 19:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: Although I'm personally of the persuasion that TBC just don't bother keeping track, the consensus here is that Strong Bad is [[Left Handedness|ambidextrous]] (like me!) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

::Being so versatile on the computer, I'd imagine he would be!
[[User:Foxtrotblues|
- Foxtrotblues]] 23:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:::ummm............. 'kay.

== Tomby, Dick and harry ==

Is Strong Bad's spelling of tom B as "Tomby" a reference to the videogame character of the same name? - Grover Junior
: No such character, Stu. Perhaps you meant [[Wikipedia:Tomba|Tomba]]? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 20:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::Was about to say, ol' Jaycob but you interrupted my edit, although it is spelled 'Tombi' in some versions, hence my mistake - Grover Junior.

==Total wave or turtle wave?==
What exactly does homestar say at the end of the email? I think he says turtle wave. If he does, then it might a reference to the Kamehameha from Dragonball Z. Thoughts?
[[User:66.65.115.218|66.65.115.218]] 20:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Definitely "toadal" or phonetically similar. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
: "Reference to the Kamehameha"?! Uh... how? Am I missing something? Anyway, '''total'''. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:: "Kame" is Japanese for Turtle, so the attack's name does have turtle in it (the protagonist learned the attack from the "Turtle Hermit") and the English dub has described the attack as a "Kamehameha Wave", so if Homestar had said "Turtle Wave", well, I think the question is reasonable, if stretching. However, I don't think that's what TBC were refencing it at all, even if Homestar had said "turtle."
::I'm leaning towards total wave. It just seems more like something that Homestar would say, doesn't it? --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:41, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
:: Isn't he trying to say "tidal"? --[[User:Grover Junior|Grover Junior]]

== Homestar mixing up words ==

Right now there's an "Inside Reference" that says: "Homestar, as he has done many times, mixes up two words ("total" and "tidal")." Isn't Homestar mixing up words far too common, general and obvious an occurrence to qualify as an Inside Reference? It's not a reference to anything; it's just the way Homestar talks. [[User:LitigationMattson|LitigationMattson]] 01:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
:Some foks may say that it's a reference to how he's done that in other cartoons. It's a regular mistake that he's making. {{User:Cutepetsrus/sig}} 01:36, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
::I'd probably say it's more of a running gag than in inside reference. --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 01:42, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

:::I think it's unnotable, myself. It's just Homestar. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:54, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== VANDALISM!!!!! ==

In case you haven't noticed some dork has replaced all the lines from Marzipan's POOL TIME! line to Bubs's "How bout me play keeping Strong Mad away from the diving board for pete
's sake!" with poop. If someone has already noticed this just leave this here for historical record.
: Thanks, but for future reference, [[HRWiki:WikiTroll|you could have fixed it yourself.]] --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:20, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Oh-oh, what a feelin', we're crashing through the ceiling... ==

Other than [[pom pom]] and [[keep cool]], when has Strong Bad crashed through the ceiling and landed at his computer? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:09, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
: Never. Which is why I reworded the fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:12, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

== Now gimme how many? ==

You know, I relistened, and I distinctly hear "five". The "v" is a bit aspirated and not totally voiced (more like an "f"), which creates a sibilance-like hiss which could be misheard as an "s", but it's (to me) definitely not an "s". Hmm? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 23:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
:I can't even hear anything that could be mis-heard for an "s". Been going over it again and again with the seek bar.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
::Once again Flash is making it sound like there's an "s" when there isn't. I think this is the same problem that also occurs in [[The Reddest Radish]] ([[Talk:The Reddest Radish#"Cheezit"|discuss]]). And I've been trying to tell people that it's the cause of the cute/shoes problem in [[disconnected]] ([[Talk:disconnected|discuss]]). I can hear why people think there's an "s", but nobody has backed me up on those. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:10, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
:::<nowiki>*</nowiki>ahem* I've said it was "cute" all along... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:22, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Not that, I mean I haven't had anybody (that I can remember) say that they can also hear and understand it being said both ways. It would have been nice to know that I'm not the only one, but this five/fives deal is confirmation enough for me. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:32, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

== More importantly, give me five WHAT? ==

Okay, I was going to add it myself, then I thought it deserved discussion, since I think it's a bigger issue and I can't find a central location for references to it: Strong Bad says "Gimme five!" but five what? He has no fingers. I think this is a running joke just as much as Strong Bad's [[Lack of Visible Arms#Strong Bad.27s Nose|lack of nose]] or various other characters' lack of arms. I'm not sure what page people would tend to think it belongs on, so I've actually started a discussion [[Talk:Lack of Visible Arms#Strong Bad.27s fingers|here]].

While there are numerous small references like this, of course it is the main theme of the humor in both [[the bird]] and [[fingers]]. The only other minor reference I can think of off the top of my head is in [[guitar]].
:He's asking the the audience to give him five. So as long as you have five fingers, it's all good.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:49, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

==Press UP, A and START==

Isn't that a reference to cheat codes, where you have to enter a button sequence to activate the cheat?

:look at [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] for the video game reference debate. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:08, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

==Rough Horse==

Also, should rough-horsing be explained that it is a play on roughousing? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 03:52, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, it should be mentioned. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:08, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

::Disagree. It's so obvious it's insulting to mention it. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:15, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

:::How is that insulting? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:16, 6 August 2006 (UTC) p.s. butt-slapping is a reference to No Bare Buns.

::::Insulting to the intelligence. I mean, it's so obvious. Horsing aroung, rough-housing = Rough-horsing. This needs no explanation. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:23, 6 August 2006 (UTC) (And I don't get it. What is "No Bare Buns"?)

:::::I'd have to agree. It is way too obvious. Sorry man. -[[User:Foxtrotblues|Foxtrotblues]] 18:14, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

:::::: No Bare Buns is a common rule meaning no skinny-dipping. The image of butt-slapping is the same as the usual image for that rule. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 01:23, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

==Chlorine==

Why was the chlorine reference declined? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:58, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
: [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/keep cool|Reasons found here.]] --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:24, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

== Floppy Disk ==

How do you know what the disk says when Homestar's foot is covering it? [[User:209.104.139.221|209.104.139.221]] 17:36, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

:There's a couple of frames where the floppy disk container is visible, before Homestar lands... with a seek bar it's possible to see what it says. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== Coach Z's body suit ==

In this email, Coach Z is seen wearing a barrel. This could be an old reference that might reinforce the thought that he actually has a green colored body, and not just some body suit with hands and feet. Jimmie

== Did anyone else notice yesterday ==

Yesterday the article somehow doubled. I'm just saying someone could've somehow vandilized the page without us knowing. They might try to blank the whole page out next. Be on the lookout. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 01:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

:Given it was [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=keep_cool&diff=prev&oldid=353437 Qermaq] that did it, I doubt it was vandalism... probably just a mistake. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:35, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

::Oh yeah, i was the one who patrolled that. I thought at first someone blanked out the page and he was fixing it. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 01:54, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

:::I'm not entirely sure what caused that glitch, but ya, it was an accident for sure. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:47, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
::::I think he probably hit "select all," then "copy," then "paste." Probably. [[User:Franklin Delano Loafing|Franklin Delano Loafing]] 20:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

==The pool at the school?==

"STRONG BAD: In the pool that we've always had... that we use all the time... at the school that's always had an elevator!"

I'd rather not get into an edit war, but I'm pretty sure he sats "and the school has" rather than "at the school that's". Any other opinions? [[User:So makey outy|So makey outy]] 23:17, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

:Agreed, and changed. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

::I thought that it was "and the school has always had an elevator"

== Color Palette? ==

What's the color palette? Explain it as if you were faced with someone dumber than Homsar, please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:16, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
:It's like, the colors they use for the design, like the old swimming pool in "Where is my hat at?". It uses the same palette as the new one, because it uses the little red checkerboard thing, which is about the same color as the newer one. It could also mean the little window that pops up in graphics programs to let you choose colors. Well, that's the best I can sum it up. And homsar's not dumb, he's just confused. {{User:The Joe/sig}} 19:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== stand-up reference? ==

When Coach Z seems disappointed about the no butt-patting rule, could this be a reference to [[stand-up]], when Strong Bad mentions something about Coach Z not patting his butt? -Umm...someone

:Hello, Somone. Yes, that might be notable. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:21, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

::The packaging for the Coach Z action figure in, well, [[action figure]] also says that it has "butt patting action". I'm sensing a running gag, of sorts... might be worth mentioning on the Coach Z page or something. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 17:23, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

:::And plus there's a chance Coach Z was the one "a ga-wabbin'" Homestar's butt in the Halloween toon. Unless it was someone else...or nobody. -Someone. Again.

== About The Easter Egg ==
*On the Easter Egg at the end, I don't get the idea. Like, how is the Easter Egg funny? I just don't get it. --[[User:205.206.196.178|205.206.196.178]] 01:48, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Hey There, Dairy Queen ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's calling Strong Sad "[[Wikipedia:Dairy Queen|Dairy Queen]]" (a restaurant famous for its soft-serve ice cream products) in [[Bug In Mouth Disease]] <s>could be</s> is related to his describing Strong Sad's head as having a "soft-serve flip" in this toon. <s>(Strong Sad previously replied that he didn't want to be called "Dairy Queen" because he "made a mistake!")</s>}}
'''Posted on:''' 21:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC) 
'''Closed:''' 19:19, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

'''VERDICT:''' <s>This item was finally declined, 9–6. The wording above is from the second revision. The original wording was overwhelmingly declined, 26–7. The first revision was narrowly declined, 23–19.</s> The votes and arguments have been moved to [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/keep cool]].

'''OVERRULED:''' In the commentary for [[Bug In Mouth Disease]], [[The Brothers Chaps]] specifically mention this.
|}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== SB gettin' his Game Boy on ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's command to "press UP, A, and START before re-entering the pool" is a reference to the manner in which various [[Wikipedia:Cheat code|cheat codes]] are entered on video game consoles, such as the [[Nintendo|Nintendo Entertainment System]].}}
{{stuffverdict|06:37, 2 August 2006 (UTC)|18:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)|accepted as revised|17|7|keep cool}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Marzipan's True Colors ===
{{stufffact|Marzipan's hair reacting to the 'ool chemicals reveals she is not a natural blonde, a fact she acknowledged previously in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2]].}}
{{stuffverdict|21:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)|03:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|18|2|keep cool}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Chemical SB ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's line about chemicals is a reference to chlorine, usually put into pools.}}
{{stuffverdict|04:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)|19:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)|swiftly and unanimously declined|20|0|keep cool}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Welcome to our tuff. Notice there's no S in it. ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad's "Welcome to our 'ool" sign is a parody of a popular [http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/crystalclear_1905_10799723 "Pool Rules" sign] that states "Welcome to our ool. Notice there's no 'P' in it. Let's keep it this way."}}
{{stuffverdict|22:06, 31 July 2006 (UTC)|14:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)|accepted in a landslide|25|2|keep cool}}

== Questionable Fact ==

<blockquote>While Homestar and the King of Town wear swimsuits to the pool, Coach Z, Bubs, Strong Mad, and Marzipan appear as they normally do, wearing their usual outfits as if they were swimsuits (although Coach Z adds a barrel).</blockquote>
We never actually see Marzy swim with her dress on (she may have quickly gotten dressed after swiming), and we don't know if Coach Z's [[labor day|skin is green or that's a green body suit]]. (I also don't think we tell if Bubs is naked or [[the process|wearing a shirt]].) --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
:I don't have a problem with your argument, I think the point of whoever originated this fact was that there were a number of characters who although going swimming did not dress as one would expect. [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 16:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

helium

2007-02-04T06:40:43Z

Spell4yr: /* Fast Forward */ period

{{sbenav|38|dullard|property of ones}}

[[Image:sbemail38.PNG|thumb|"Check out that ugly bird!"]]

Shack wants to know what Strong Bad sounds like under the influence of helium.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}} (Easter Egg, Voice Only)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Living Room of the Brothers Strong]], [[The Field]]

'''Computer:''' [[Tandy 400]]

'''Date:''' July 29, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 1:29

'''Page Title:''' Tandy 400: Still Broken

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc One}}

== Transcript ==

''{Strong Bad bounces his head slowly up and down, right and then left while he sings "Emaillll eeeemailll eeemmailll...", sounding like a car going through its gear shifts.}''

<blockquote class="tandy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
What do you sound like when you breathe helium? 
 
Shack 
Whittier</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh I dunno, Shaq. ''{quickly replaces "q" with "ck"}'' I haven't done that in a while. Though I think we have some leftover balloons from a party we threw last night. Lemme see.

''{Strong Bad leaves his seat and goes to a room where Strong Mad and The Cheat are standing. Strong Bad takes a yellow helium balloon and breathes it in.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a high-pitched voice}'' Hey guys! How do you like my sounds?

''{Strong Mad laughs.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Pretty great, huh? I sound like...one of the Golden Girls. Or, like, some type a guy who might... sing a song. You know like ''{singing}'' "Welcome to the High Voice Crew! ''{Strong Mad starts to tap his foot to the beat}'' I hope you have a high voice, too! When you've got a high voice, you don't have a choice, ''{gradually descends to his regular tone}'' your voice is high all the time. Welcome to the High Vo..." ''{stops singing}'' Oh, I guess... I got kicked out of the High Voice Crew.

'''STRONG MAD:''' MEEEE. ''{takes a blue helium balloon angrily}'' MEEEEEEEE! ''{breathes it in but his voice doesn't change}'' THIS IS MY FUNNY VOICE! ''{more emphatically}'' ''THIS IS MY FUNNY VOICE''!!!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, that's a pretty funny one, big guy.

''{He rubs his head and The Cheat inhales nearly all of the helium from a blue balloon. The balloon suddenly gets stuck inside The Cheat, who is now a large, round, floating The Cheat. He flies smoothly across the room as Strong Mad looks on in shock.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aagghh... I've got a wicked head rush.

''{Homestar Runner and Marzipan are talking to each other in The Field.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' So from then on, it was pork and beans.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I don't know if that's entirely healthy.

''{Homestar Runner looks above behind him and sees the large, round, floating The Cheat soaring across The Field.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoa, Marzipan. Check out that ugly bird.

''{The Cheat floats offscreen.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar, I think that bird is The Cheat.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No way! The Cheat is one fine-looking young man. ''That'' is an ugly bird.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down. The Cheat reappears, floating through the sky further in the background and in the opposite direction.}''

== Easter Eggs ==

*Click on The Cheat as he floats by the second time to hear Strong Sad say, "I'm sad that he's flying."

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
* The reason Strong Bad got a head rush (or neurological [[Wikipedia:Vertigo (medical)|vertigo]] in scientific terms) was because the helium in the balloon momentarily replaced the oxygen normally carried to the brain.

===Trivia===
*This email marks the first appearance of Marzipan's new mouth movement style. (Look closely at how her mouth moved in cartoons like [[Where's The Cheat?]] and you will see the change.)
*This is also Marzipan's first appearance in a Strong Bad Email.
*Strong Bad's voice while he breathed helium was only his regular voice sped up. You can tell this when Strong Bad's voice is returning to normal - his song gradually slows down.
*The Cheat's appearance when he's inflated would seem to imply that he doesn't have any legs.

===Goofs===
*The string on the red balloon does not reach the ground, nor does the balloon reach the ceiling.

===Inside References===
*During the helium scene, a keg that reads "[[Melonade|melonade]]" sits off to the side, which is the same keg from the old [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] cartoon.
*The Strong Sad Easter egg is a reference to [[Main Page 15]] ("I'm sad that I'm flying.").

===Real-World References===
*Shaq refers to [[Wikipedia:National Basketball Association|NBA]] player [[Wikipedia:Shaquille O'Neal|Shaquille O'Neal]].
*''[[IMDB:tt0088526|The Golden Girls]]'' was a popular sitcom about four elderly women that ran from 1985 to 1992.

===Fast Forward===
*Strong Mad manages to get a high-pitched voice by sucking up [[wikipedia:Bandwidth|Bandwidth]] in [[isp]].

==DVD Version==
*Strong Sad automatically says, "I'm sad that he's flying."

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail38.html|watch "helium"]]
*[[HR:sbemail38.swf|view the Flash file for "helium"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]]

helium

2007-02-04T06:40:24Z

Spell4yr: /* Inside References */ need a period to end the actual sentence

{{sbenav|38|dullard|property of ones}}

[[Image:sbemail38.PNG|thumb|"Check out that ugly bird!"]]

Shack wants to know what Strong Bad sounds like under the influence of helium.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}} (Easter Egg, Voice Only)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Living Room of the Brothers Strong]], [[The Field]]

'''Computer:''' [[Tandy 400]]

'''Date:''' July 29, 2002

'''Running Time:''' 1:29

'''Page Title:''' Tandy 400: Still Broken

{{dvd|strongbad_email.exe Disc One}}

== Transcript ==

''{Strong Bad bounces his head slowly up and down, right and then left while he sings "Emaillll eeeemailll eeemmailll...", sounding like a car going through its gear shifts.}''

<blockquote class="tandy email">Dear Strong Bad, 
What do you sound like when you breathe helium? 
 
Shack 
Whittier</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Oh I dunno, Shaq. ''{quickly replaces "q" with "ck"}'' I haven't done that in a while. Though I think we have some leftover balloons from a party we threw last night. Lemme see.

''{Strong Bad leaves his seat and goes to a room where Strong Mad and The Cheat are standing. Strong Bad takes a yellow helium balloon and breathes it in.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in a high-pitched voice}'' Hey guys! How do you like my sounds?

''{Strong Mad laughs.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Pretty great, huh? I sound like...one of the Golden Girls. Or, like, some type a guy who might... sing a song. You know like ''{singing}'' "Welcome to the High Voice Crew! ''{Strong Mad starts to tap his foot to the beat}'' I hope you have a high voice, too! When you've got a high voice, you don't have a choice, ''{gradually descends to his regular tone}'' your voice is high all the time. Welcome to the High Vo..." ''{stops singing}'' Oh, I guess... I got kicked out of the High Voice Crew.

'''STRONG MAD:''' MEEEE. ''{takes a blue helium balloon angrily}'' MEEEEEEEE! ''{breathes it in but his voice doesn't change}'' THIS IS MY FUNNY VOICE! ''{more emphatically}'' ''THIS IS MY FUNNY VOICE''!!!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, that's a pretty funny one, big guy.

''{He rubs his head and The Cheat inhales nearly all of the helium from a blue balloon. The balloon suddenly gets stuck inside The Cheat, who is now a large, round, floating The Cheat. He flies smoothly across the room as Strong Mad looks on in shock.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Aagghh... I've got a wicked head rush.

''{Homestar Runner and Marzipan are talking to each other in The Field.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' So from then on, it was pork and beans.

'''MARZIPAN:''' I don't know if that's entirely healthy.

''{Homestar Runner looks above behind him and sees the large, round, floating The Cheat soaring across The Field.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Whoa, Marzipan. Check out that ugly bird.

''{The Cheat floats offscreen.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Homestar, I think that bird is The Cheat.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No way! The Cheat is one fine-looking young man. ''That'' is an ugly bird.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down. The Cheat reappears, floating through the sky further in the background and in the opposite direction.}''

== Easter Eggs ==

*Click on The Cheat as he floats by the second time to hear Strong Sad say, "I'm sad that he's flying."

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
* The reason Strong Bad got a head rush (or neurological [[Wikipedia:Vertigo (medical)|vertigo]] in scientific terms) was because the helium in the balloon momentarily replaced the oxygen normally carried to the brain.

===Trivia===
*This email marks the first appearance of Marzipan's new mouth movement style. (Look closely at how her mouth moved in cartoons like [[Where's The Cheat?]] and you will see the change.)
*This is also Marzipan's first appearance in a Strong Bad Email.
*Strong Bad's voice while he breathed helium was only his regular voice sped up. You can tell this when Strong Bad's voice is returning to normal - his song gradually slows down.
*The Cheat's appearance when he's inflated would seem to imply that he doesn't have any legs.

===Goofs===
*The string on the red balloon does not reach the ground, nor does the balloon reach the ceiling.

===Inside References===
*During the helium scene, a keg that reads "[[Melonade|melonade]]" sits off to the side, which is the same keg from the old [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] cartoon.
*The Strong Sad Easter egg is a reference to [[Main Page 15]] ("I'm sad that I'm flying.").

===Real-World References===
*Shaq refers to [[Wikipedia:National Basketball Association|NBA]] player [[Wikipedia:Shaquille O'Neal|Shaquille O'Neal]].
*''[[IMDB:tt0088526|The Golden Girls]]'' was a popular sitcom about four elderly women that ran from 1985 to 1992.

===Fast Forward===
*Strong Mad manages to get a high-pitched voice by sucking up [[wikipedia:Bandwidth|Bandwidth]] in [[isp]]

==DVD Version==
*Strong Sad automatically says, "I'm sad that he's flying."

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail38.html|watch "helium"]]
*[[HR:sbemail38.swf|view the Flash file for "helium"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Tandy 400 Emails]]

Talk:keep cool

2006-08-03T00:53:47Z

Spell4yr: /* Sou' Sou'west or South Southwest? */

Talk:Melonade

2006-06-08T07:09:13Z

Spell4yr: /* More Real Melonade, in the Cold One Realm */

I don't know how to revert, so I'm leaving a note here. The final line of this article was changed, and it strikes me as vaguely trollish. --[[User:Mila|Mila]]

:I've reverted the edit you mentioned, before I even saw your note here. Thanks. Instructions for reverting pages can be found on the [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]] page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:10, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)

If Homestar drunk 147 glasses of Melonade, and normally eats 147 marshmallows before drinking a glass of melonade, that means Homestar should have eaten 21609 marshmallows before drinking the melonade.
The average marshmallow contains 159 calories, therefore Homestar would have got 3435831 calories from the marshmallows. This is of course presuming that Fluffy-Puff marshmallows have the average calorie content. [http://www.calorieking.com/foods/food.php?category_id=30146&brand_id=1&food_id=70022&partner=.com Marshmallow Facts]

Has anyone here ever actually tried making their own melonade? If so, how did it turn out? I happen to have half a watermelon handy at this moment, but I don't know the best way to go about juicing it. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 02:34, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Didja know "melon" can be rearranged to spell "lemon"? Coincidence? I think not. [[User:The Coachsmith|The Coachsmith]]

:''Reply to Marshmallow Facts:'' Hmmm, i just thought of something: if homestar was able to eat 21609 marshmallows before drinking the melonade, he only has to drink 147 glasses of melonade 46.27 times before [[the_show#Trivia|to win]] by eating a 1,000,000. Oh wait, I think I stumbled into an inconsistency. This article says that he eats 147 marshmallows before drinking 1 glass of melonade. The trivia I pointed to points to the [[Fluffy_Puff_Commercial|Fluffy puff commercial]], whose transcript says: ''Oh. Before I drink 147 glasses of melonade, I eat 147 Fluffity Puffity Marshalades.'' Which to me means that he eats ''one'' marshmallow for every glass of melonade he drinks. Oh but he also says ''Before I drink a tall glass of melonade, I like to eat about 147 Fluffy Puff Marshmallows.'' So my questions are: 1. which one is correct (is there another instance that supports the latter, and this is just his usual confusion 2. where in [[the_show#Trivia]] do they find out that he eats 147 marshmallows every day (or drink 1 or 147 glasses of melonade, which would imply that)? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:30, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
::also, that's for the Nibblers. Homestar's talking about regular sized Marshmallows. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

== recipie ==

does anyone know a good recipie for melonade? --[[User:Benol|Coach B]] 21:16, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

:Hey! It just occured to me that Melonade looks ominously(sp?) like ''Pink Lemonade''! I wonder if they make ''Green Melonade''. As for a recipe, my guess would be squeeze the melon, take out the pulp, add sugar? Or well in this case, add salt, citric acid or sour candy... ? Don't forget the ice! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:23, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:There was originally a recipe on the page, but it got taken down for good reason. How do we know if it's true? Anyway, this is what it said:
:The recipe is as folows:
:6 ounces cubed, seeded watermelon
:4 ounces sour mix
:1 ounce simple syrup
:6 ounces ice
:Blend all ingredients together; serve in a 14-ounce glass. Garnish with lemon and watermelon wedge. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:01, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

::What was the good reason?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 00:10, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
:::As I said, "How do we know if it's true?" {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:22, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

== Real Melonade ==

I remember seeing a flavored water flavor called Melonade. It was green. That's the only palce I saw it though... [[User:Begone Demon|Begone Demon]] 20:43, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== More Real Melonade, in the [[Cold One]] Realm ==
Buffalo Wild Wings has a "melonade" that is a combination of vodka, some sort of fruity liqueur (I can't remember it at the moment), and lemonade. (Imagine having 147 of those; a friend of mine was feeling a tad lightheaded after having just one yesterday ...) For what it's worth. (Edit: It's also almost exactly the same color as the drink The Cheat is holding.) [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 07:08, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Melonade

2006-06-08T07:08:00Z

Spell4yr: melonade

I don't know how to revert, so I'm leaving a note here. The final line of this article was changed, and it strikes me as vaguely trollish. --[[User:Mila|Mila]]

:I've reverted the edit you mentioned, before I even saw your note here. Thanks. Instructions for reverting pages can be found on the [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]] page.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:10, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)

If Homestar drunk 147 glasses of Melonade, and normally eats 147 marshmallows before drinking a glass of melonade, that means Homestar should have eaten 21609 marshmallows before drinking the melonade.
The average marshmallow contains 159 calories, therefore Homestar would have got 3435831 calories from the marshmallows. This is of course presuming that Fluffy-Puff marshmallows have the average calorie content. [http://www.calorieking.com/foods/food.php?category_id=30146&brand_id=1&food_id=70022&partner=.com Marshmallow Facts]

Has anyone here ever actually tried making their own melonade? If so, how did it turn out? I happen to have half a watermelon handy at this moment, but I don't know the best way to go about juicing it. [[User:GG Crono|GG Crono]] 02:34, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Didja know "melon" can be rearranged to spell "lemon"? Coincidence? I think not. [[User:The Coachsmith|The Coachsmith]]

:''Reply to Marshmallow Facts:'' Hmmm, i just thought of something: if homestar was able to eat 21609 marshmallows before drinking the melonade, he only has to drink 147 glasses of melonade 46.27 times before [[the_show#Trivia|to win]] by eating a 1,000,000. Oh wait, I think I stumbled into an inconsistency. This article says that he eats 147 marshmallows before drinking 1 glass of melonade. The trivia I pointed to points to the [[Fluffy_Puff_Commercial|Fluffy puff commercial]], whose transcript says: ''Oh. Before I drink 147 glasses of melonade, I eat 147 Fluffity Puffity Marshalades.'' Which to me means that he eats ''one'' marshmallow for every glass of melonade he drinks. Oh but he also says ''Before I drink a tall glass of melonade, I like to eat about 147 Fluffy Puff Marshmallows.'' So my questions are: 1. which one is correct (is there another instance that supports the latter, and this is just his usual confusion 2. where in [[the_show#Trivia]] do they find out that he eats 147 marshmallows every day (or drink 1 or 147 glasses of melonade, which would imply that)? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:30, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
::also, that's for the Nibblers. Homestar's talking about regular sized Marshmallows. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]]

== recipie ==

does anyone know a good recipie for melonade? --[[User:Benol|Coach B]] 21:16, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

:Hey! It just occured to me that Melonade looks ominously(sp?) like ''Pink Lemonade''! I wonder if they make ''Green Melonade''. As for a recipe, my guess would be squeeze the melon, take out the pulp, add sugar? Or well in this case, add salt, citric acid or sour candy... ? Don't forget the ice! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:23, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:There was originally a recipe on the page, but it got taken down for good reason. How do we know if it's true? Anyway, this is what it said:
:The recipe is as folows:
:6 ounces cubed, seeded watermelon
:4 ounces sour mix
:1 ounce simple syrup
:6 ounces ice
:Blend all ingredients together; serve in a 14-ounce glass. Garnish with lemon and watermelon wedge. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:01, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

::What was the good reason?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 00:10, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
:::As I said, "How do we know if it's true?" {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:22, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

== Real Melonade ==

I remember seeing a flavored water flavor called Melonade. It was green. That's the only palce I saw it though... [[User:Begone Demon|Begone Demon]] 20:43, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== More Real Melonade, in the [[Cold One]] Realm ==
Buffalo Wild Wings has a "melonade" that is a combination of vodka, some sort of fruity liqueur (I can't remember it at the moment), and lemonade. (Imagine having 147 of those; a friend of mine was feeling a tad lightheaded after having just one yesterday ...) For what it's worth. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 07:08, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Website Sightings

2006-05-12T18:42:53Z

Spell4yr: /* The $39 Dollar Experiment */ removing redundancy

{{sightingslanguagewarning}}

== The 2004 Cartoonist's Choice Awards ==
[[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]] won in the Best Use of Flash category at [http://www.ccawards.com/2004.htm "The 2004 Cartoonist's Choice Awards"]

==The $39 Experiment==
On a site called [http://www.the39dollarexperiment.com The $39 Experiment] a man named Tom Locke sent 100 letters to 100 companies asking for free stuff. In [http://www.the39dollarexperiment.com/march15.htm one letter] to "Del Monte Pet Products" Tom claims that he has a dog named [[Li'l Brudder]].

== 8-Bit Theater ==
*In [http://www.nuklearpower.com/redmage21.php Twinkin' out with RedMage 21:Errata!], a-once weekly advice column, a reader inquires: "How does strong bad type with boxing gloves"


== 8BitJoystick.com ==
In [http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_how_to_burn_xbox_games_and_copy_protected_cds.php this article] about how to literally burn CDs, the author notes to "burn it properly like Trogdor burninates the peasants."

== Addicting Games ==
*[http://www.addictinggames.com The site] features [[Stinkoman 20X6]] and [[TROGDOR!]]
*[[Awexome Cross]] and [[Population: Tire]] were on the site before it was redesigned.
*In the game [http://www.addictinggames.com/trackmaster.html Track Master], if you get a good score it says good jorb.
*In the game [http://www.http://www.addictinggames.com/slacker2.html Slacker 2], after you beat the game there is an epilogue, and if you zoom in on Slacker's nametag, it has a picture of [[Homestar Runner]].

== All Your Base parody list ==
The [http://tmst.twu.net/ayb/ayb.htm TmsT Zero Wing Parodies Emporium] features "[http://tmst.twu.net/ayb/allyourstrongbad.htm All Your HomeStarRunner are belong to Trogdor]".

== The Andy Milonakis Show website (MTV2) ==
[http://www.mtv2.com/#andymilonakis The website] for this show has the marshmallow [[Wallpaper]] on the background of Videos, Photos, Episodes, Cast, and Shop.

==Animalxing.com==
*On the [http://www.animalxing.com/patternsv3/textures.php Textures] page, They have many Homestar related designs such as Homestar, Strong Bad, The Cheat, etc. that can be found by typing in the search box.
*An image of [[Strong Bad]] to be used on the Animal Crossing cat, Blanca, appears [http://www.animalxing.com/blanca_ah.php here.]

== Atari Age ==
At [http://www.atariage.com this site], someone hacked the Atari "Donkey Kong" game. Player, Enemy, and Object sprites have been changed to resemble characters from Homestar Runner. [http://www.atariage.com/hack_page.html?SystemID=2600&SoftwareHackID=186 You can find it here].

== BB-Spot-''Which website are you?'' ==
In the [http://www.bbspot.com/News/2005/02/website_quiz.php website personality test] at www.bbspot.com, one of the [http://bbspot.com/News/2005/02/website_quiz_all.html possible answers] you can get is Homestarrunner.com.

== Best Page In The Universe ==
On [http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net thebestpageintheuniverse.net] in one of Maddox's rants about the amount of emails he gets, he [http://maddox.xmission.com/aliens.html makes a little ode] to The Chapman Brothers. This must mean he is aware of homestarrunner.com. The actual quote is "I know there are other big websites out there that generate a lot of email (my sympathies to the Chapman brothers)".

== Bryan Waterman Interview ==
Bryan Waterman, who does the series "''[http://www.watermanstudios.com Waterman]''" had an interview and he mentioned the best internet cartoon was Homestar Runner:
<blockquote>
:''Who is your favorite flash movie artist or flash artists if you have more than one? What are some of your favorite flash movie series?''

:'''BRIAN WATERMAN:''' Above all else Homestar Runner not only do I love the cartoon, Mike and Matt are two good friends of mine. Bonus Stage is another one I really like and I do look forward to Joseph's animations.
</blockquote>
[http://www.medaverse.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=2&page=2 See It Here]

== Charlie Clay And The Clay Crew ==
At [http://www.freewebs.com/charlieclay/ this site], Season 1's episodes so far contain Homestar cameos.

[http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2209220516.gif&s=x4 Episode 1] A Trogdor arcade game can be seen behind the Sonic arcade game that the crew is playing.

[http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2209253732.gif&s=x4 Episode 2] The crew finds a grey monster, but when they put the flashlight on it, they find out it is actually Homestar and he helps them get their power back.

[http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2915224932.gif&s=x2 Episode 3] Jacob wears Homestar's shoes and gets beat up by Homestar, the text "ROCK'D" pops up when Charlie is hit by a rock in the head, the text "ROCK'D AGAIN!" pops up as a guy who commented the grammar error gets a rock thrown at his head, and Trogdor gets defeated by Charlie doing homing attack on him.

[http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=2/3916110594.gif&s=x7 Episode 4] "Thief'd" is the episode name and Homestar gets stolen by the thief.

[http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=3/6215223823.gif&s=x10 Episode 5] Homestar escapes from the thief with Charlie.

== Choose your own change ==
If you submit a story to [http://www.cyoc.net Choose Your Own Change], the following message appears: "Your article has been received... If Instructions on the previous page have been followed your story will be posted soon, if not it will be [[DELETED|baleeted!]]"

== Comcast.net ==
[[Image:Comcast Homestar.PNG|thumb|It's Dot Net!]]
On June 10th, 2004, HomestarRunner.com was featured on [http://www.comcast.net Comcast.net's] main page as the icon for its "FUN FOR ALL AGES" news article, where [[Homestar Runner]]'s image was displayed, along with a link to the website and [[The Brothers Chaps]]' meeting with G4TechTV.

== Crash Mania ==
On [http://crashmania.topcities.com/ this] site, [http://crashmania.topcities.com/paltiny.png this] screenshot has the profile name listed as "[[Fhqwhgads|Fhqwgads]]".

== Dance Dance Immolation ==
On a site for Dance Dance Immolation, a flaming DDR, a gallery contains a picture of a man on fire with the caption "BURNINATED!!". [http://www.interpretivearson.com/gallery/album05?page=3]

== Dangerskew ==
*A flash developer on [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com Albino Black Sheep], Dangerskew, is a reference to [[Dangeresque]].
*Some of the games developed by this author are [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/cheeserobots Attack of the Cheese Eating Robots], [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/industry Industry], and [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/redlight Red Light].

== Double-Tongued Word Wrester ==
Neolinguist Grant Barrett has done an [http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/comments/3102/ entry on "asplode"] on his site. It looks like "asplode" was not coined by the Brothers Chaps, but he agrees that "This term was popularized in 2004 by the character Strong Bad on the HomestarRunner web site."

== Duct Tape Guys ==
At [http://www.ducttapeguys.com DuctTapeGuys.com] on [http://www.octanecreative.com/ducttape/fashion/accessories/accessories1.html this]
webpage there is a picture of a duct tape backpack featuring Strong Bad, Marzipan, and Homestar.

== Episode Comparisons ==
The anime episode comparison site [http://mmpu.smuncensored.com/ Mew Mew Power Uncensored] sometimes uses the term [[DELETED|Baleeted]] and frequently uses the Teen Girl Squad-esque term [[-'d|DELET'D]] in their comparisons to say when a scene was cut out.

== Eric Conveys The Brothers Chaps? ==
*Eric at [http://www.emotioneric.com Eric Conveys an Emotion] got together with The Brothers Chaps for a rough and tumble game of football, complete with Eric's warped and hilarious sense of humor. See a step-by-step progression of [http://www.emotioneric.com/ae/?adv=thefootballgame The Game]. On page 1 [[Trogdor]] is in the background, on page 2 [[The Ugly One]] is in the background, on page 3 [[Old-Timey Homestar]] is in the background, on page 4 Homestar is in the background, on page 5 [[Strong Bad]] is in the background, on page 6, [[The Cheat]] is actually in the foreground, on page 7, [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]] and a keg of [[Melonade]] are in the background, and on page 8, [[Stinkoman]] is in the background.
*Also, in "getting a great idea... while falling to your doom" Eric has a [[Homsar]] shirt on. [http://www.emotioneric.com/greatideafalldoom.jpg greatideafalldoom.jpg]

== Europa Universalis Forums ==
This site has a large number of fanfiction entries for Paradox Entertainment games, such as Europa Universalis and Hearts of Iron. The author Prufrock451 put a "Private Benedetto" in [http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204565 this] Hearts of Iron 2 After Action Report. He's told to "keep that mess down".

== Fake Domain Registration Info ==
The [http://whois.webhosting.info/OLENE.NET. registration information] provided for "olene.net" references [[Mundelow]], [[Schenectady Crispies]], [[some kinda robot|Abdi LaRue]], [[Cheap as Free]], [[cheat talk|Cory, ND]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Badia]], [[Free Country, USA]], [[Coach Z]], and [[Coach Z's Locker Room|his locker room]].

== FeedBurner ==
[[Image:FeedBurner_Sighting.png|thumb|Let's date.]]
On the [http://www.feedburner.com FeedBurner] website, in the section in which you can manage your feeds, random messages show up. One of them is this: "To the nearly 140,000 customers using FeedBurner... we are [http://www.homestarrunner.com/tgs2.html totally crushing] (in a good way)." The link takes you to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 2]].

== Flame Warriors ==
The [http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/garble.htm entry for Garble] includes a reference to a certain [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?|infamous question often asked of Strong Bad]].

== Flying Omelette's Kitchen ==
*According to [http://www.flyingomelette.com/ this site], Strong Bad may have been switched at birth with Viewtiful Joe or the Red Power Ranger as found in [http://www.flyingomelette.com/oddities/oddities45.html this article] .
*Also, The Cheat is compared to Pikachu in [http://www.flyingomelette.com/oddities/oddities31.html this article].

== The Force.net Humor ==
At a Star Wars Fansite's humor section one of their "Top 46 lists" titled 'Top 47 lesser known goals of the evil empire' says "Secret co-production of Dangeresque 1, 2, & 3" at number 8. [http://www.theforce.net/humor/topten/ct10_lesser_known_goals_pt1.asp The List] [http://www.theforce.net/humor The Site]

==Forum Stage==
On the main page, the description for episode 1 is "Idiot gets sucked into the internet creating a cartoon so bad, [[Homestar Runner]] died." It can be seen [http://www.editthis.info/FSwiki/index.php/Internet here.]

== Fred The Monkey ==
[http://www.fredthemonkey.com/ Fred the Monkey.com] is a Flash animation site that is greatly influenced by Homestar Runner. It's been around for three years now. Like Homestar Runner, the site features a "First Time Here"-video and a mailbag, very much like Strong Bad's e-mail, and in the sixteenth mailbag, he comments on how he gets a lot of emails from people pretending to be Strong Bad. Another more obvious reference is displayed in [http://www.fredthemonkey.com/cartoons/reviewSM2.html this toon], where Fred The Monkey wears a Strong Bad mask at the end.

== Fruitcake MIDI ==
Dr. Fruitcake, a famous video game music sequencer and remixer, has created a song called "The Occasional Beat (Strong Bad Remix)" in tribute to [[new hands]]. Check the song out [http://www.fcmidi.net/mp3/drf_bw_beat.mp3 here]. [http://www.fcmidi.net Fruitcake MIDI]

== Funny Junk ==
In a flash cartoon [http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/smurf.htm here](warning: adult material), Strong Bad is dancing in the middle of the screen at about the middle of the flash cartoon. He dances like he does in [[The Luau]].

== Funny Part ==
[http://www.funnypart.com Funny part], a website with numerous funny pictures, cartoons, and jokes, had [[Teen Girl Squad]] issues 2 and 3 on their website, though they have since been removed. 

== Futurama Madhouse ==
At the [http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar Futurama Madhouse], they have a regular feature on "Uses for a hacker".
*[http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/hacker/hack498.png Use #498] is entitled "Homsar's Translator" and features everyone's favorite blue midget Homestar, [[Homsar]]!
**Also notable is the fact that the copyright reads "© [[Tandy 400]], [[The Brothers Chaps|Chapman Bros]]".
*[http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/hacker/hack667.png Use #667] is entitled "Homestar Runner's Evil Twin", and features, just that.
*[http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/hacker/hack669.png Use #669], entitled "Strong Bad's Torture Victims Who Misspell Repeetedli", is the latest Homestar-related use for a hacker.

==Gamecheetz==
*Homestar Runner is mentioned on the [http://www.gamecheetz.com GameCheetz] [http://www.gamecheetz.com/Links.html link] page under "Excellent Humorous Sites".
*In the comic [http://www.gamecheetz.com/Comic.php?comic=15692 "Buzz Buzz"], there's a caption in the 7th frame that reads "If you don't know what this means, you need to go to homestarrunner.com".
*One of the Forum avatars is a picture of Ilko's head.

== GameFAQs ==
*On the [http://www.gamefaqs.com GameFAQs] video game database, there are pages for [[Peasant's Quest]] [http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/online/data/922153.html here] and [[Stinkoman 20X6]] [http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/online/data/928815.html here], where each game has user-submitted walkthroughs, reviews and more, as well as its own message board!
*Homestar Runner is listed as a company [http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/company/75484.html here].
*Also, The Unofficial Homestarrunner board can be found [http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=575567 here.]
*On April Fools 2006, a [http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2333 poll] on GameFAQs listed a series of internet phrases, one of which being "YOUR HEAD ASPLODE".

== Google ==
*Google's secret plans for an upcoming project are codenamed Trogdor. An article about these plans can be found at [http://www.valleywag.com/tech/google/googles-secret-plans-trogdor-calendar-and-wifi-153854.php this site].

*On an episode of Google Current, the host (Conor Knighton) wears a Strong Bad shirt. [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8426498908161701167&q=Aqua+Teen&pl=true Video]

== Homokaasu.org ==
A Homestar Runner [http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator/gallery.gas?1331 wall-size printout] demonstrating homokaasu.org's Rasterbator software (Web service)

==Howstuffworks.com==
In this [http://science.howstuffworks.com/cold-heat4.htm article] about the Cold Heat soldering iron, they refer to the solder as being "burninated", an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].

== IGN ==
*The image behind the Nintendo Wi-Fi Registration Tool is from a [[Teen Girl Squad]] comic in [http://ds.ign.com/articles/665/665128p1.html this article].
*In the Animal Crossing: Wild World video review at the 2:52 mark, there is a selection screen where you pick the design for your clothes. There are three Homestar inspired designs, including the red star shirt, a Homestar head, and Strong Bad. The video selection page is found [http://media.ds.ign.com/media/682/682878/vids_1.html here], and the actual video is on the top left, or [http://media.ds.ign.com/media/682/682878/vid_1341240.html here.]

== I-Mockery==
*EVOLUTION OF JACK!
**After Pjalne pretends to have stabbed himself in the arm, there is a picture of Andy with a caption of "Halloween'd", which is a direct reference to [[Teen Girl Squad]]. See the page [http://www.i-mockery.com/halloween/bag/jack3.php here].
*Bishop of Battle
**On the second page of his review, the image of the Bishop swallowing J.J. is captioned with a reference to [[StrongBadZone]], "YOUR HEAD A SPLODE!" A direct link to the page is available [http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/bishopofbattle/page2.php here]. Contains profanity.

== Insert Disc Two ==
In the sketch [http://www.insertdisctwo.com/jamesjoyce.htm My Dream Date with James Joyce], Lori Williams' character has a [[The Cheat]] doll on her bed.

== Jay is games ==
[http://jayisgames.com/ Jay is games] is a site that reviews a large number of online games. They have had reviews of [[Peasant's Quest]] [http://jayisgames.com/archives/2004/08/peasants_quest.php] and [[Thy Dungeonman 3]] [http://jayisgames.com/archives/2006/04/thy_dungeonman.php].

== JengaJam.com ==
[http://www.jengajam.com This] website always puts up links to the latest Homestar updates. The name of the site came from Homsar's quote in [[Where's The Cheat?]]

== Kid Radd! ==
At the [http://home.att.net/~miller.daniel.r/index.htm Kid Radd] web page, in one of the first
comics, Kid Radd is upset because, "My world [[StrongBadZone|a-splode]]!"

==Kings of Chaos==
After attacking an enemy in the MMORPG [http://www.kingsofchaos.com/ Kings of Chaos], the victory page will sometimes say "You burninated the enemy!" an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].

== La La La ==
The video "[http://www.flashplayer.com/music/lalala.html La La La]" on UGOplayer contains a few Homestar Runner characters, including Strong Bad and Homestar Runner. It also includes the Homestarmy wallpaper image, edited to suit the cartoon.

== Legendaryfrog.net ==
*In [http://www.legendaryfrog.net/flashmovies/kerri3.htm Kerrigan's Big Invention] there is a picture of Strong Bad and Homestar on the chalk board.
*In [http://www.legendaryfrog.net/flashmovies/avp.htm Senya's movie review: Alien V.S. Predator] there are several cheat commandos toys by the toy box.

== Lemmy's Land ==
In one of [http://www.lemmykoopa.com/ Lemmy's] [http://www.lemmykoopa.com/lk35/lk35.php Funnies] called [http://www.lemmykoopa.com/lk35/lk35.php?&Submission=514 "Superstar Mario in Too Much Water"] By Drew, we see the classic "Scene missing" bit from [[Parsnips-a-Plenty]] and [[The Homestar Runner]] says, "What?" while Mario was still drinking water to become fat.

== Mind Body Guide ==
*Strong Bad is the featured image of a slightly tongue-in-cheek tally of the body’s many muscles on [http://mindbodyguide.ca/articles/many-muscles.php this site].
*Strong Bad Email [[suntan]] is quoted when the article states, "let’s not forget the cloits and dloits!"
*The [http://mindbodyguide.ca/articles/many-muscles.php#note1 footnote] says "There are no such thing as cloits or dloits. This is a reference to anatomy according to Strong Bad, which is hilarious, and included here entirely for the sake of comic relief. Kind of like the whole article, come to think of it."

== More Awesome Than You! ==
*[http://www.moreawesomethanyou.net This] page (warning: explicit "under construction" graphic) the index.html page title is "More Awesome Than You PAY PLUS!", an obvious reference to [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]].
*The main logo has a picture of [[Trogdor]] on it.
*Seven of the sub-forums are marked as been in the "[[Trogdor|Burnination]]" parent forum. One of the child forums in the "Burnination" parent forum is entitled "[[Peasantry]]". Another is titled "[[theme park|Bowels of Trogdor]]". Yet another is titled "[[Planet K]] [[20X6]]". A child forum under the "Peasantry" forum is "Made-Up Animals", with the description: "[[animal|If you were a sim, what would you like as if?]]"
*Several phrases used are similar, or based on Homestar Runner phrases. Examples include: "Game exploding in a [[pom pom|big fiery ball that is visible from space]]" and "[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|GameCube is no place for a mighty warrior.]]"

== Neglected Characters ==
*[http://www.smbhq.com/nc/ This] is a site where the Neglected Characters of Mario games are honored. One of them, [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/guide.html Dr. Donez], answers questions regularly (much like [[Strong Bad Email]]) at [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/askdrd.html Ask Dr. Donez].
**In [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/e501600.html question 595], [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/v14011500.html question 1412], and [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/v18011900.html question 1842] he gets asked how he types with boxing gloves on his hands, which he responds differently each time.
*In one of Bowser's [http://www.smbhq.com/nc/election/radical/bowser/speeches.html speeches], Koopa asks Bowser, "How do you know Trogdor?" and he replies "We went to Burniniation classes together."

== Neopets ==
*[http://www.neopets.com Neopets] released a new avatar with the caption "Your Lupe A Splode" which is an obvious reference to [[video games]] and [[StrongBadZone]].
[[Image:Yourlupeasplode.gif]]
*In this avatar, the caption reads "Garlic'd!" at the end-an obvious Teen Girl Squad reference.
[[Image:Runaway garlic.gif]]
*Another avatar features a Scorchio (a dragon-like Neopet) with the caption "Burninate!", an obvious reference to [[Trogdor]].
[[Image:Scordrax.gif]]
*Neopets also has an avatar reserved for theneopetsteam, a staff username, which references the "a splode."
[[Image:Tntasplode.gif]]
*There is also a Petpet Laboratory, that can change your Petpet's image, and one thing that can happen is your Petpet's name can change to [[So and So]].
== NES Horsemen ==
*On [http://www.neshorsemen.com/ this site], [http://www.neshorsemen.com/oreview.html this page] has several references, including a variation on the "dot dot dot" quote from [[Under Construction]] and a reference to the [[Extra Real Dating Sim XR]] ("featuring the most polygonal of technoligies"). [[20X6]] is also mentioned.

== Nintendojo ==
As an April Fools prank, Nintendojo put up a [http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1143867894 fake list of characters] for the upcoming Super Smash Bros. Revolution. [[Trogdor]] is among the characters listed.

== NoSlang.com ==
The [http://www.noslang.com NoSlang.com] [http://www.noslang.com/spelling.php "commonly misspelled words"] page has a statement saying, "Since not everybody owns a copy of '[[local news#Easter Eggs|Strong Bad's Rythm  N' Grammar]],' we've tried to do our part to help by compiling a list of common internet misspellings." It also posted a "Happy Birthday Trogdor" link from January 13th through January 16th, 2006.

== Olde English ==
In their [http://oldeenglish.org/general.html General Procrastination] sketch, Razin was holding off going to battle by going on the internet and watching the new Strong Bad Email. (which really wasn't even an email, he opened up the Strong Bad bio 'toon and the email menu.)

[http://oldeenglish.org View Oldeenglish].

==OrbiTouch==
On the website for [http://www.keybowl.com/kb/index?page=benefits OrbiTouch], a new, safe way to type, they mention that you can "Type with Boxing Gloves On" in the lower right-hand side of one of their pages.

==Pure Pwnage ==
[[Image:Purepwnage_email.jpg|thumb|Jeremy from Pure Pwnage]]At the beginning of episode 10, Jeremy answers e-mails in the exact same style as Strong Bad does. The computer used says "[[Compy 386]]" in the corner.

http://www.purepwnage.com/

== PVP Online ==
[[Pan Pan]] shows up in a panda line-up on [http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20060421 pvponline.com], done by guest artist [http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ Howard Taylor].

== Real Ultimate Power ==
Parodies of [http://www.realultimatepower.net '''''Real Ultimate Power'''''] are everywhere. A fan [http://www.geocities.com/viggler/trogdor.html made one] featuring TROGDOR.

== Red vs Blue ==
*At [http://www.redvsblue.com Red vs Blue] they made a public service announcement about tattoos (It appears every 4 weeks or so in the season 1 archive). When Church suggests you get a tattoo of your favorite character from your favorite online comic (obviously referring to himself), Strong Bad's face appears on-screen instead.
*A Strong Bad and a Homestar sticker is also seen during the Red vs. Blue segment in the Halo 2 Limited Collectors Edition DVD, on the window of a door.

== Rinkworks Graffiti ==
Homestar is referenced twice on the [http://www.rinkworks.com/ Rinkworks] [http://www.rinkworks.com/graffiti graffiti pages].
*The text "[[50 emails#Homestar's attempts at DELETED|Baleted]]" can be seen [http://rinkworks.com/graffiti/index.cgi?g=12 here].
*An image of Strong Bad has been crudely pasted in to all the other crazy stuff going on [http://rinkworks.com/graffiti/index.cgi?g=14 here].

== Rocketboom ==
*On the [http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2005/12/rb_05_dec_05.html 12/5/05] episode of the v-log [http://www.rocketboom.com/ Rocketboom], Amanda Congdon is wearing a Homestar Runner shirt.

*On the [http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2006/04/rb_06_apr_12.html 4/12/2006] episode, after Amanda reports about a human clock, she comments that she still likes her [[Strong Bad Clock]] better.

== Sam & Max Episodes ==
On the [http://www.telltalegames.com/samandmax/faq FAQ page for the new Sam & Max game,] Homestar Runner is mentioned--praised, even.

== The Schumin Web ==
The [http://www.schuminweb.com/ splash page] for November 2005 showed an image of Ben Schumin dressed up as [[The Thnikkaman]]. The same image also appears in the [http://www.schuminweb.com/schumin-web/archives/splash-page.asp Splash Page Archives].

== Shenmue II : The Gang Edition ==
In the fan-movie [http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/%7Eshenmuedojo/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14850&sid=4d196b2cc178187c5528f347a593e744 Shenmue II : The Gang Edition], when Ryo arrives at Guilin, he is distracted by a The Cheat Talking Plush Doll, which is the guardian of the village where Shenhua lives. 
Later, Ryo kicks the Plush Doll, making it complain.

== Shoot the Cliché ==
Trogdor appears as one of the clichés in this game from [http://www.anothersite.co.uk another site].
[http://www.anothersite.co.uk/news.php?artc=131& Click here] to play the game.

== Something Awful ==
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Strong Bad, Homestar, Strong Mad, The Cheat and Marzipan appear as grotesque caricatures in [http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=3714 Tub Bites vol. 2.]. The computer used in the toon appears to be a parody of the [[Compy 386]]. The first email is "[[DELETED!|Recycle Binned!]]". Homestar returns Strong Bad's ''[[Wikipedia:Tag Team Wrestling|Tag Team Wrestling]]'' game, as well as some of his "[[Crap|crappy]] catchphrases" (the one used as an example is "[[Crap#Holy Crap! and Other Exclamations|holy crap!]]").
*The Easter egg is a parody of [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]], featuring calls from parodies of Strong Bad, the King of Town, Homsar, Coach Z and Strong Sad.

== South Park Studios ==
Somebody at South Park Studios is a fan, as a January 28, 2006 [http://www.southparkstudios.com/show/display_faq_search.php?section=2&id=38887&search_faq= FAQ update] contains the following:

'''Q. - How do you type with boxing gloves on?''' A. - I'm sorry, this is "Ask South Park" not "Ask StrongBad ''(sic)''."

== Stinkoman 20X6 on VGMusic.com ==
*[http://www.vgmusic.com VGMusic.com] have done a remix of some of the Stinkoman 20X6 soundtrack. However, since VGMusic doesn't allow direct linking to MIDI files, the creator has put them up on his website for download. The links can be found here:
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_levelselect.mid Level Select]
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_levelstart.mid Level Start]
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_level1.mid Level 1]
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_boss.mid Boss Theme]
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_level2.mid Level 2]
*[http://tyler.f85.net/midis/20x6_level8.mid Level 8]
These files were sequenced by Tyler Prevost.

== The Straight Dope ==
The StrongBadZone was submitted for [http://www.straightdope.com/columns/ Weird Earl's] on [http://www.straightdope.com/ The Straight Dope], a category featuring strange and/or awesome sites.

== Strong Bad Pilots an F/A-22 Raptor ==
For a short time, Strong Bad could be seen on the Lockheed Martin [http://www.f22-raptor.com/ F/A-22 Raptor Team Web Site] [[:Image:sbf22.png|F/A-22 Raptor]].

==Suave==
[http://www.suave.net/~dave/trogdor.cgi This Suave page] is about Trogdor, Strong Bad, and The Cheat.

== Superdickery.com ==
*In a "Bizzaro letters" segment, one guy writes "Dear Strongbad: How do you type with boxing gloves on?" [http://www.superdickery.com/gabliam4-16.html]
*Also, the creator says "head a'splode" in a little blurb following [http://www.superdickery.com/other/256.html this comic cover]

== Technopets ==
On [http://technopets00.tripod.com technopets00.tripod.com], in the tpemail [http://technopets00.tripod.com/id36.html Icons], the e-mail message at the bottom says "Email me. Bad emails will be burninated, er burned"

== ThinkGeek ==
[http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/cubegoodies/722a/action/2111db4/ Here] there is a picture showing plastic toys dressed up for halloween. One of the toys is dressed up as Strong Bad (or, as they call him, "Strong Bob").

== Uncyclopedia==
*On the ever-popular factually-inaccurate encyclopedia [http://uncyclopedia.org Uncyclopedia], the VfD (vote for deletion) template reads "Baleeted! This article is total crap. Please VFD."
*According to [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/UnNews:Homestar_Runner%27s_face_is_seen_on_milk_cartons_worldwide. this article], Homestar Runner has gone missing. Several inside references.
* In [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Errors.png this image], one of the error messages is the "[[:Image:this is real.png|Everything is fine. Nothing is ruined.]]" error from [[50 emails]].
* One of the user awards includes [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Burninator Burninator].
*In the [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Recentnews Recentnews] template, one of the news items reads that "An astremely astonishing asperiment has show that acessive asposure to '''[[StrongBadZone|Strong Bad Zone]]''' has an astraordinarily affect on grammar."
*If you attempt to restore [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Game:Zork/File_1 File 1] of [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Game:Zork Zork], you have some [[Grumblecakes]] in your inventory. You are also wearing the [[Kerrek]]'s belt.
*Fake (or at least, mostly fake) descriptions of the characters have been entered.
**'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Homestar_Runner Homestar Runner]''': "A prolific actor (famous for playing the role of [[Matt Chapman]] in the 2000 movie "Flash Cartoonists")"
**'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Strong_Bad Strong Bad]''': One of "the most notable and prolific singer/songwriters of the past decade".
**'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Coach_Z Coach Z]''': "An athletic genius" and "a prolific writer and rapper".
**'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Pom_Pom Pom Pom]''': "A large, balloon-like alien from the planet Inflatrosis".
**'''[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Trogdor_the_Burninator Trogdor]''': "The son of the Friendly Giant and Puff, The Magic Dragon".
*[[homsar]] has been "sporked" from this Wiki (see [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Homsar here]). There is also an article on the [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Tandy_400 Tandy 400], as well as one on [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Homestar_Runner_Wiki this Wiki].
*[[50K Racewalker|50K RaceWalker]] is listed as the 43rd [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Worst_100_Computer_Games_of_All_Time worst computer game of all time].
*There are [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/You_have_two_cows/25#Category_.CF.80:_The_World_Wide_CoWeb 5 Homestar Runner variations] of the phrase "[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/You_have_two_cows You have two cows]".
*The start of [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Game:Game_Online Game Online] is a direct rip-off of the start of [[Thy Dungeonman]].
*Two of the choices for [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Monster the monster template] are "a [[The Yello Dello|Yello Dello]]" and "a cavalry of [[Dongrel|dongrel]]s".
*Two of the choices on the [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:Random/killed random "killed by" template] are "[[Trogdor|burninated]]" and "[[50 emails#Homestar's attempts at DELETED|BALEETED!]]"

== Urban Dictionary ==
On July 1st, 2005, the main page "word of the day" on Urban Dictionary was biz cas fri. (It is misspelled as "bis cas fri.") [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bis+cas+fri&defid=801385]

Various other phrases and words are defined on the site (with varying degrees of accuracy in spelling and content) such as [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Teen+Girl+Squad Teen Girl Squad], [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Strong+Bad Strong Bad], [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homestar+runner Homestar Runner], [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fhgwhgads fhqwhgads], and [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Somebody+get+this+freaking+duck+away+from+me "Somebody get this freakin' duck away from me!"].

== Variousimmers ==
On [http://www.variousimmers.net this site] dedicated to modding [[Wikipedia:The Sims 2|The Sims 2]], two of the objects are a [[Painting of a guy with a big knife]] ([http://www.variousimmers.net/vsimforum/showthread.php?t=518 here]), and a Strong Bad [[monument]] ([http://www.variousimmers.net/vsimforum/showthread.php?t=1568 here]).

== VG Mix ==
[http://www.vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=615 Here] there is a remix of the first racing tune from Rad Racer (which is also Stinkoman's theme). The title references to [[japanese cartoon]] and the song itself contains quotes from said e-mail.

== Wikipedia's April Fool's Day Article 2005 ==
Homestar in his Daisy Dukes was eventually added to the somewhat lengthy Wikipedia April Fool's Day 2005 article detailing a hostile takeover of Wikipedia by Encyclopedia Britannica. He was part of Wikipedia's "[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&oldid=11827614#New_corporate_structure new corporate structure]" as the Minister of Long Pants. He was then pictured lower on the page in the "[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&oldid=11828885#Immediate_aftermath Immediate Aftermath]" section, then moved to the "[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&oldid=11833150#Related_Information Related Information]" section, then finally [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&oldid=11833471 dropped] altogether. The page as it exists now can be found [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:April_1%2C_2005/2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia here], and the edit history for the page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:2005_Britannica_takeover_of_Wikimedia&action=history here]. Strong Bad was also named Minister of Deleting email, and is found directly under Homestar's listing.

== ytmnd ==
Many Homestar Runner-related [http://ytmnd.com You're The Man Now, Dog] pages have been [http://ytmnd.com/list/?search=homestar created], such as [http://hatesomuch.ytmnd.com/ this one], which involves the [[Cheat Commandos]], [http://homestarspin.ytmnd.com/ this one], which includes a scene from [[dangeresque 3]], [http://ytmnd.com/list/?search=freakin+duck these], which all reference [[Main Page 13]], and [http://mahmoudahmadinejad.ytmnd.com/ this one] which capitalizes on the song [[Everybody to the Limit]], involving [[Fhqwhgads]].

==Zingtech==
The [http://www.zingtech.com/features/painting/ paintings] section of the website features an acrylic painting entitled [[Painting of a guy with a big knife|"Guy With a Big Knife"]].

{{Template:sightingslist}}
[[Category:Sightings]]

Talk:Portmanteaus

2006-05-08T19:00:53Z

Spell4yr:

== Name of article ==

There's something not-quite-right about the title. Looking closely at various articles and dictionaries, I think the name of this page should either be [http://www.bartleby.com/61/91/P0459100.html portmanteau words] or [[Wikipedia:Blend (linguistics)|blends]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:21, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
:According to [[Wikipedia:Portmanteau]]<blockquote>"Portmanteau word" was the original phrase used to describe such words (as listed in dictionaries published as late as the early 1990s), but this has since been abbreviated to simply "portmanteau" as the term (and the type of words it describes) gained popularity.</blockquote>{{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:26, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
::Hmm, I see. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:33, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== Duplication? ==
A lot of this is already covered in [[Strong Bad's Spelling]] ... [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 19:00, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

User:Spell4yr

2006-03-24T06:47:38Z

Spell4yr: adding what's next for me

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==Biography==
'''Spell4yr''' is a relatively recent convert to the world of Homestar Runner. He disliked the site until a friend of his continuously watched the emails in 2004 (the chronology is somewhat uncertain, but must be in the early part of 2004, since it coincided with the "Spare Key" email rap). He began watching the emails and enjoyed them, and then enjoyed the other toons on the site as well.

Spell4yr's beginning was somewhat uneventful. He was born Stephen ... um, H., on December 19, 1984 at Exeter Hospital in Exeter, N.H. He has claimed Seabrook, N.H. as his town of residency for his entire life (save for about a month spent in Newburyport, Mass., following the death of his grandfather). Attending Seabrook Elementary School he found his greatest achievement, winning four spelling bees in four years between the fifth and eighth grades (which albeitly, considering many of his classmates, wasn't much of an achievement). His username was a result of misguided egotism and a mistaken assumption that Hotmail restricted usernames for email accounts to no more than eight letters. Spell4yr then went on to Winnacunnet High School in Hampton, N.H., in the technology and engineering career track, and was a member of the twice-state-champions school math team, a trombone/tuba player for the band, and, for two years, a copy editor on the student newspaper. A successful academic career led him to enrollment at [http://www.valpo.edu Valparaiso University] in northwest Indiana, which he has attended for two and a half years, majoring in meteorology and mathematics.

He is well known for incredible lapses in memory and general absent-mindedness; he has tried to improve over the years but has only gotten much worse. He has joked that he marks his territory by leaving things behind in places he has been (usually pens or receipts, sometimes hats or other larger items). Spell4yr has not had much luck with the ladies (probably at least partially due to the forgetfulness), and does not expect prospects to improve anytime soon.

'''Domicile:''' IP address to be researched later 
'''Debut:''' editing a comma in [[geddup noise]]

==Wiki User Video Transcript==
''{'''Page Title:''' Four more years!} {'''Place:''' Valparaiso University}

''{The scene starts on the campus, in the middle of a large field. People walk on the pathways in the background, but Spell4yr is nowhere to be seen.}''

'''CAMERAMAN:''' Hey, we're rolling!

'''SPELL4YR:''' Sorry, I can't really focus right now!

''{The camera drops downward to show Spell4yr frantically searching through the grass for something.}''

'''CAMERAMAN:''' You'll just have to do this and then go back to that later! Don't worry about it right now!

'''SPELL4YR:''' Okay ... ''{gets up}'' Well, I'm Spell4yr. I can spell, and to answer you wackos on Yahoo! Messenger, that does not refer to witchcraft. So don't even ask me that. I like listening to music, and having good, clean, non-alcoholic fun, and ... sorry, I just can't do this! I have to find my keys!

'''CAMERAMAN:''' Whatever.

''{Spell4yr searches for a little while longer, then all of a sudden shakes his pocket inadvertently. It jingles.}''

'''SPELL4YR:''' Oh. They're right in here.

==Fun Facts==
*"Four more years" is typically used as some sort of campaign slogan for presidents seeking reelection.
*Spell4yr is standing/searching through a section of campus that once housed Moellering Library, which was demolished in May 2005 due to architectural and asbestos problems, in addition to being replaced the year before by the Christopher Center for Library and Information Resources.
**The Christopher Center is named after Jay and Doris Christopher. Jay is an alumnus of the university, and Doris created the Pampered Chef company of cooking products.

==What's Next?==
Spell4yr has decided over the next few weeks and months to undertake a project to gather together any and all multiple real-world references of the same subject, even if the references themselves aren't related, so that they can be more easily attained from one source (without having to do a search for that item). More info on this to come.

candy product

2006-03-21T22:35:55Z

Spell4yr: /* Real-World References */ it's relevant due to the Easter egg, but I realize I made the fact too long

{{sbenav|149|disconnected|some kinda robot}}

[[Image:CandyProduct.png|thumb|You got SBLOUNSKCHED!]]

Strong Bad gets his own [[SBLOUNSKCHED! Bar|candy product]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Senor Cardgage}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Marshie}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]], [[The Field]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' March 21, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 2:58

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as if talking into a microphone}'' Check one, check two. Sibilance. Sibilance. SBEmail.
<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: Candy</div>
Dear Strongbad 
I was wondering, if you are so famous, popular, and a 
chick-magnet how come you dont have any candy product... 
or food thing... to sell.............. 
From somone thats not homestarrunner
</blockquote>

''{While reading, Strong Bad says "Dear Strongbad I was wondering," as one clause, pronounces "dont" with a short O sound (as "daunt"), inserts exaggerated pauses where the ellipses are in the email, and says "somone" as a name.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well, of course you're not, Somone. Or else you would've fallen prey to Edgar's Baby's Daddy: my Homestar junkmail filter. ''{clears screen}'' So what I don't have a candy product. I betcha I will by the end of this email. I'm famous, popular, and chick-magnet enough to have a candy product. Why is it athletes are the only ones with their own candy bars? Shouldn't they have their own brand of, like, jock-strap or divorce lawyer, instead? ''{clears screen}'' For my candy bar, we're gonna need a name that's 50% Strong Bad, 50% tooth rot, and 50% ta-dah!!! How 'bou... SBLOUNSKCHED!

''{A brown "SBLOUNSKCHED! bar" smashes onscreen, and then disappears.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' 'Cuz that's how you're gonna feel when you eat one...like you got SBLOUNSKCHED! ''{has trouble pronouncing the end}'' Now we gotta be sure and represent as many of the different states—

''{A [[The Periodic Table of Candy Elements|candy-based periodic table]] covers the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —of candy matter as possible. We’ll start with a gaseous cloud of marshmallow vapor—

''{While Strong Bad says the second sentence, a pile of marshmallows appears from the left and puffs into a shiny, white vapor.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —encased in a globule of semi-solid licorice colloid.

''{As this is said, some black goo comes from behind and encases the vapor in a bubbly black sphere. It shrinks while it and many other identical blobs will the lower part of the screen as the next sentence starts.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' A bunch of those will be floating in a channel of liquid nougat—

''{A wave of white nougat fills the lower half of the screen, and the licorice spheres are floating in the new stream.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —which I recently found out is the candy equivalent of veal. And we roll all that up inside a solid crispety cookety log—

''{At the end of the last sentence, a cookie dough log with chocolate chips wraps around the stream and puts it back to the center. It has a small stump sticking out with a leaf.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —and cover it with rich, creamy... pepperoni.

''{Seven slices of pepperoni drop along the top of the candy log.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Then sprinkle that with, not just crispy puffed rice, but whole tiny bowls of crispy puffed rice cereal.

''{As this is spoken, twelve tiny bowls of chrispy puffed rice cereal drop onto the treat.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And finally, smother that with the ol’ BBC: Boring Brown Chocolate.

''{Liquid chocolate is poured onto the candy and completely covers it.}''

'''ENGLISH VOICE:''' I say...

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now that is a confection worthy of the SBLOUNSKCHED name. But I need to think of a better shape than the standard piece-of-crap shape.

''{Cut to Strong Bad in the bathroom, reading a newspaper.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I’m talkin’ to you, Baby Ruth.

''{Cut back to the Periodic Table.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let's see ... shape, shape, shape, shape, shape—

''{The candy rapidly morphs through a series of shapes: a chainsaw, a dollar sign, a thumbs-up, a syringe, a campfire, the state of Indiana, a moustache, and the Van Buren Statue.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —ooh, what about my pants? Everybody knows my pants! And they come with a built-in bite out of them ''{chomp}'' for security, ‘cuz who’s gonna steal a pair of half-eaten choco-pants?

''{Cut back to computer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Typing}'' Man, with a candy bar like that, you could get away with anything!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Singing}'' You’ve got the munch, the crisp and the crunch, livin’ in the gutter with grandma. When coach puts you in, you gotta go for the win. Y2K turned out all right! SBLOUNSKCHED! You can do it! SBLOUNSKCHED! Crunchy chew it! Who’s got the money?!? You got SBLOUNSKCHED!

'''TV ANNOUNCER:''' ''{speaking very rapidly}'' Buy one and you can get one free root canal or cavity search.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
[[Image:JunkmailFilta.png|thumb|Egdar's Baby's Daddy]]
*Click "Edgar's Baby's Daddy" to see Strong Bad's Homestar junkmail filter.
{| cellspacing=4 style="font-family:Courier New, monospace;font-weight:bold;border:2px solid gray;margin-top:8px;margin-bottom:8px"
|-
| style="padding:4px;border:2px solid red" |Edgar´s Baby´s Daddy H*R Junkmail Filta
|-
|
{| cellspacing=0 style="font-family:Courier New, monospace;font-weight:bold;"
|-
! align="left" style="border-right:2px solid #CCC" | Subject !! style="border-right:2px solid #CCC" | Time !! Sender
|-
| style="border-right:2px solid #CCC;border-top:2px solid #CCC;padding-right:4px" | Re: Besing Friends Draw Trogdor again ;) Re: re: re: resending Re: PharmBlacy news Possible caper Rrrrates so low!!!! Shemp vs. Curly Joe It's almost 10:25!!
| style="border-right:2px solid #CCC;border-top:2px solid #CCC;padding-right:4px;padding-left:4px" | 10:22 10:22 10:23 10:23 10:23 10:24 10:24 10:24
| style="border-top:2px solid #CCC;padding-left:4px" | Homestar Runner Homestar Runner Homestar Runner Homestar Runner Homestar Runner Homestar Runner Homestar Runner Homestar Runner
|}
|}

*At the end of the e-mail, click the front SBLOUNSKCHED! bar to see a short scene of Homestar (dressed as a robber) preparing to steal a discarded candy product.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh, paydirt! A pair of half-eaten choco-pants!

*Also click the SBLOUNSKCHED! logo below the candy bars to see a short scene of Marshie's face appearing in the gaseous marshmallow vapor.
:'''MARSHIE:''' ''{creepy voice}'' You can't destroy me!

== Fun Facts ==
{{checkstuffpage}}

===Explanations===
*Although the word [[wikipedia:colloid|colloids]] has several meanings, in this situation it refers to small particles that are suspended within the substance that contains them.
*[[wikipedia:Sibilants|Sibilants]] (or "sibilance") is a word commonly used when testing microphones to make sure that sibilant sounds ("s", "sh", "z", and "zh") are picked up properly.
*The date shown on the Tandy 400 is Friday, December 31, 1999. It is possible that Strong Bad was changing the date to avoid the [[Wikipedia:year 2000 problem|year 2000 problem]].

===Trivia===
[[Image:DaNewsPapes.png|thumb|Da NewsPapes]]
*Strong Bad's [[News Articles|newspaper]] reads as follows:
<pre>Da NewsPapes

World events continued for the 43rd
consecutive day. This is just 3 shy of
the all-time record of 46. Many believe
this to be a sign of things to come. Ed
Bache concurs. "This is a sign of
things to come."

Back Pape

Famous couples were spotted eating,
walking around, and on movie screens
across the country.
</pre>

===Remarks===
* Strong Bad's candy bar comes packaged in two different rectangular shapes — the first resembling the old Choco-Lite bar or a [[Wikipedia:Nestle Crunch|Nestlé Crunch]] with Caramel, and the second resembling a [[Wikipedia:Kit Kat|Kit Kat]] — in spite of the fact that the bar itself is supposed to be shaped like a pair of pants.
*When the pants-shaped candy is with a bite taken out of it, it's shown as solid chocolate, not with the "filling" he described before.

===Goofs===
*There is no back button at the end of the e-mail.

===Inside References===
*"Re: re: re: resending" is a possible reference to [[bottom 10]], where Strong Bad explains that he hates emails that have more than one Fwd:, or Re: in the subject line.
*"Draw [[Trogdor (character)|Trogdor]] again ;)" is a reference to [[dragon]].
*This is another example of [[Homestar Peeking|characters peeking]] from behind objects in the foreground.
*One of the rejected forms for the candy bar is the [[Van_Buren | bust of Van Buren]].
*At the beginning of the commercial, small print at the bottom reveals that it is a production of [[Cheap As Free]] Foodstuffs.
*Marshie's creepy voice in the Easter egg is similar to an Easter egg in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*During the SBLOUNSKCHED! jingle, the scoreboard behind Coach Z reads CGNU, the acronym of [[Crazy Go Nuts University]].
*"Edgar's Baby Daddy" is another instance of Edgar based computer protection software, first seen in [[virus]] (as Edgar) as an anti-virus program, and also in [[long pants]] (as Edgar Jr.) as a paragraph filter.

===Real-World References===
*The "SBLOUNSKCHED!" commercial refers to ads for candies like [[Wikipedia:Mentos|Mentos]] where it is suggested that consumers of the product can do anything at all.
*[[Wikipedia:Baby Ruth|Baby Ruth]] is a popular candy bar 2 oz. in size in a log-shaped form. Strong Bad's allusion to its scatological appearance is most likely a reference to a like-minded gag in the film [[Wikipedia:Caddyshack|Caddyshack]].
*[[Wikipedia:BBC|BBC]] actually stands for ''British Broadcasting Corporation'', which may explain why the English voice is offended by Strong Bad's interpretation.
*"Sibilance," a word describing the "s" sound, was used by [[IMDb:nm0000158|Tom Hanks]] in a Wayne's World sketch on [[Wikipedia:Saturday Night Live|Saturday Night Live]] in a soundcheck for [[Wikipedia:Aerosmith|Aerosmith]].
*The "built-in bite" shape of SBLOUNSKCHED! may refer to Grizzly Chomps, a Hostess-brand treat introduced in 1992. The package included two cupcakes with a bite-mark shape cut out of them, and the package bore a cartoon bear saying, "I start 'em, you finish 'em."
*"Crispity" is a made-up word used in advertisements, along with "crunchity" and "peanut-buttery," to describe the [[Wikipedia:Butterfinger|Butterfinger]] candy bar.
*[[Wikipedia:Shemp Howard|Shemp Howard]] and [[Wikipedia:Curly Joe DeRita|"Curly Joe" DeRita]] served the role as the third of the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]] at various points in the act's history.

== External Links ==
{{sbemailextlinks|149|7465}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

candy product

2006-03-21T22:30:20Z

Spell4yr: /* Real-World References */ (5th try) Shemp vs Curly Joe from Easter egg

{{sbenav|149|disconnected|some kinda robot}}

[[Image:CandyProduct.png|thumb|You got SBLOUNSKCHED!]]

Strong Bad gets his own [[SBLOUNSKCHED! Bar|candy product]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Senor Cardgage}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Marshie}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]], [[The Field]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' March 21, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 2:58

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{as if talking into a microphone}'' Check one, check two. Sibilance. Sibilance. SBEmail.
<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: Candy</div>
Dear Strongbad 
I was wondering, if you are so famous, popular, and a 
chick-magnet how come you dont have any candy product... 
or food thing... to sell.............. 
From somone thats not homestarrunner
</blockquote>

''{While reading, Strong Bad says "Dear Strongbad I was wondering," as one clause, pronounces "dont" with a short O sound (as "daunt"), inserts exaggerated pauses where the ellipses are in the email, and says "somone" as a name.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well, of course you're not, Somone. Or else you would've fallen prey to Edgar's Baby's Daddy: my Homestar junkmail filter. ''{clears screen}'' So what I don't have a candy product. I betcha I will by the end of this email. I'm famous, popular, and chick-magnet enough to have a candy product. Why is it athletes are the only ones with their own candy bars? Shouldn't they have their own brand of, like, jock-strap or divorce lawyer, instead? ''{clears screen}'' For my candy bar, we're gonna need a name that's 50% Strong Bad, 50% tooth rot, and 50% ta-dah!!! How 'bou... SBLOUNSKCHED!

''{A brown "SBLOUNSKCHED! bar" smashes onscreen, and then disappears.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' 'Cuz that's how you're gonna feel when you eat one...like you got SBLOUNSKCHED! ''{has trouble pronouncing the end}'' Now we gotta be sure and represent as many of the different states—

''{A [[The Periodic Table of Candy Elements|candy-based periodic table]] covers the screen.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —of candy matter as possible. We’ll start with a gaseous cloud of marshmallow vapor—

''{While Strong Bad says the second sentence, a pile of marshmallows appears from the left and puffs into a shiny, white vapor.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —encased in a globule of semi-solid licorice colloid.

''{As this is said, some black goo comes from behind and encases the vapor in a bubbly black sphere. It shrinks while it and many other identical blobs will the lower part of the screen as the next sentence starts.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' A bunch of those will be floating in a channel of liquid nougat—

''{A wave of white nougat fills the lower half of the screen, and the licorice spheres are floating in the new stream.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —which I recently found out is the candy equivalent of veal. And we roll all that up inside a solid crispety cookety log—

''{At the end of the last sentence, a cookie dough log with chocolate chips wraps around the stream and puts it back to the center. It has a small stump sticking out with a leaf.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —and cover it with rich, creamy... pepperoni.

''{Seven slices of pepperoni drop along the top of the candy log.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Then sprinkle that with, not just crispy puffed rice, but whole tiny bowls of crispy puffed rice cereal.

''{As this is spoken, twelve tiny bowls of chrispy puffed rice cereal drop onto the treat.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And finally, smother that with the ol’ BBC: Boring Brown Chocolate.

''{Liquid chocolate is poured onto the candy and completely covers it.}''

'''ENGLISH VOICE:''' I say...

'''STRONG BAD:''' Now that is a confection worthy of the SBLOUNSKCHED name. But I need to think of a better shape than the standard piece-of-crap shape.

''{Cut to Strong Bad in the bathroom, reading a newspaper.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I’m talkin’ to you, Baby Ruth.

''{Cut back to the Periodic Table.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let's see ... shape, shape, shape, shape, shape—

''{The candy rapidly morphs through a series of shapes: a chainsaw, a dollar sign, a thumbs-up, a syringe, a campfire, the state of Indiana, a moustache, and the Van Buren Statue.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —ooh, what about my pants? Everybody knows my pants! And they come with a built-in bite out of them ''{chomp}'' for security, ‘cuz who’s gonna steal a pair of half-eaten choco-pants?

''{Cut back to computer}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Typing}'' Man, with a candy bar like that, you could get away with anything!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Singing}'' You’ve got the munch, the crisp and the crunch, livin’ in the gutter with grandma. When coach puts you in, you gotta go for the win. Y2K turned out all right! SBLOUNSKCHED! You can do it! SBLOUNSKCHED! Crunchy chew it! Who’s got the money?!? You got SBLOUNSKCHED!

'''TV ANNOUNCER:''' ''{speaking very rapidly}'' Buy one and you can get one free root canal or cavity search.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
[[Image:JunkmailFilta.png|thumb|Egdar's Baby's Daddy]]
*Click "Edgar's Baby's Daddy" to see Strong Bad's Homestar junkmail filter.
{| cellspacing=4 style="font-family:Courier New, monospace;font-weight:bold;border:2px solid gray;margin-top:8px;margin-bottom:8px"
|-
| style="padding:4px;border:2px solid red" |Edgar´s Baby´s Daddy H*R Junkmail Filta
|-
|
{| cellspacing=0 style="font-family:Courier New, monospace;font-weight:bold;"
|-
! align="left" style="border-right:2px solid #CCC" | Subject !! style="border-right:2px solid #CCC" | Time !! Sender
|-
| style="border-right:2px solid #CCC;border-top:2px solid #CCC;padding-right:4px" | Re: Besing Friends Draw Trogdor again ;) Re: re: re: resending Re: PharmBlacy news Possible caper Rrrrates so low!!!! Shemp vs. Curly Joe It's almost 10:25!!
| style="border-right:2px solid #CCC;border-top:2px solid #CCC;padding-right:4px;padding-left:4px" | 10:22 10:22 10:23 10:23 10:23 10:24 10:24 10:24
| style="border-top:2px solid #CCC;padding-left:4px" | Homestar Runner Homestar Runner Homestar Runner Homestar Runner Homestar Runner Homestar Runner Homestar Runner Homestar Runner
|}
|}

*At the end of the e-mail, click the front SBLOUNSKCHED! bar to see a short scene of Homestar (dressed as a robber) preparing to steal a discarded candy product.
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ooh, paydirt! A pair of half-eaten choco-pants!

*Also click the SBLOUNSKCHED! logo below the candy bars to see a short scene of Marshie's face appearing in the gaseous marshmallow vapor.
:'''MARSHIE:''' ''{creepy voice}'' You can't destroy me!

== Fun Facts ==
{{checkstuffpage}}

===Explanations===
*Although the word [[wikipedia:colloid|colloids]] has several meanings, in this situation it refers to small particles that are suspended within the substance that contains them.
*[[wikipedia:Sibilants|Sibilants]] (or "sibilance") is a word commonly used when testing microphones to make sure that sibilant sounds ("s", "sh", "z", and "zh") are picked up properly.
*The date shown on the Tandy 400 is Friday, December 31, 1999. It is possible that Strong Bad was changing the date to avoid the [[Wikipedia:year 2000 problem|year 2000 problem]].

===Trivia===
[[Image:DaNewsPapes.png|thumb|Da NewsPapes]]
*Strong Bad's [[News Articles|newspaper]] reads as follows:
<pre>Da NewsPapes

World events continued for the 43rd
consecutive day. This is just 3 shy of
the all-time record of 46. Many believe
this to be a sign of things to come. Ed
Bache concurs. "This is a sign of
things to come."

Back Pape

Famous couples were spotted eating,
walking around, and on movie screens
across the country.
</pre>

===Remarks===
* Strong Bad's candy bar comes packaged in two different rectangular shapes — the first resembling the old Choco-Lite bar or a [[Wikipedia:Nestle Crunch|Nestlé Crunch]] with Caramel, and the second resembling a [[Wikipedia:Kit Kat|Kit Kat]] — in spite of the fact that the bar itself is supposed to be shaped like a pair of pants.
*When the pants-shaped candy is with a bite taken out of it, it's shown as solid chocolate, not with the "filling" he described before.

===Goofs===
*There is no back button at the end of the e-mail.

===Inside References===
*"Re: re: re: resending" is a possible reference to [[bottom 10]], where Strong Bad explains that he hates emails that have more than one Fwd:, or Re: in the subject line.
*"Draw [[Trogdor (character)|Trogdor]] again ;)" is a reference to [[dragon]].
*This is another example of [[Homestar Peeking|characters peeking]] from behind objects in the foreground.
*One of the rejected forms for the candy bar is the [[Van_Buren | bust of Van Buren]].
*At the beginning of the commercial, small print at the bottom reveals that it is a production of [[Cheap As Free]] Foodstuffs.
*Marshie's creepy voice in the Easter egg is similar to an Easter egg in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*During the SBLOUNSKCHED! jingle, the scoreboard behind Coach Z reads CGNU, the acronym of [[Crazy Go Nuts University]].
*"Edgar's Baby Daddy" is another instance of Edgar based computer protection software, first seen in [[virus]] (as Edgar) as an anti-virus program, and also in [[long pants]] (as Edgar Jr.) as a paragraph filter.

===Real-World References===
*The "SBLOUNSKCHED!" commercial refers to ads for candies like [[Wikipedia:Mentos|Mentos]] where it is suggested that consumers of the product can do anything at all.
*[[Wikipedia:Baby Ruth|Baby Ruth]] is a popular candy bar 2 oz. in size in a log-shaped form. Strong Bad's allusion to its scatological appearance is most likely a reference to a like-minded gag in the film [[Wikipedia:Caddyshack|Caddyshack]].
*[[Wikipedia:BBC|BBC]] actually stands for ''British Broadcasting Corporation'', which may explain why the English voice is offended by Strong Bad's interpretation.
*"Sibilance," a word describing the "s" sound, was used by [[IMDb:nm0000158|Tom Hanks]] in a Wayne's World sketch on [[Wikipedia:Saturday Night Live|Saturday Night Live]] in a soundcheck for [[Wikipedia:Aerosmith|Aerosmith]].
*The "built-in bite" shape of SBLOUNSKCHED! may refer to Grizzly Chomps, a Hostess-brand treat introduced in 1992. The package included two cupcakes with a bite-mark shape cut out of them, and the package bore a cartoon bear saying, "I start 'em, you finish 'em."
*"Crispity" is a made-up word used in advertisements, along with "crunchity" and "peanut-buttery," to describe the [[Wikipedia:Butterfinger|Butterfinger]] candy bar.
*[[Wikipedia:Shemp Howard|Shemp Howard]] and [[Wikipedia:Curly Joe DeRita|"Curly Joe" DeRita]] served the role as the third of the [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|Three Stooges]] in various points of the act's history. Shemp, a founding member, left the group in 1931 and returned from 1946 to 1955, and Curly Joe appeared from 1958 to 1970.

== External Links ==
{{sbemailextlinks|149|7465}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

candy product

2006-03-21T18:54:24Z

Spell4yr: I think that's him in the alley, isn't it?

{{sbenav|149|disconnected|some kinda robot}}

[[Image:CandyProduct.png|thumb|SBlounskched! bar]]

Strong Bad gets his own candy product.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Senor Cardgage}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}} ''{easter egg}'' {{Film|Marshie}} ''{easter egg}''

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[The Field]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]]

'''Date:''' 2006

'''Running Time:'''

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

== Transcript ==

== Easter Eggs ==
* Click "Edgar's Baby's Daddy" to see Strong Bad's Homestar junkmail filter.

== Fun Facts ==

===Goofs===

===Inside References===

===Real-World References===

*The "SBLOUNSKHED" commercial refers to ads for candies like [[Wikipedia:Mentos|Mentos]] where it is suggested that consumers of the product can do anything at all.
*[[Wikipedia:Baby Ruth|Baby Ruth]] is a popular candy bar 2 oz. in size in a log-shaped form.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail149.html|watch "candy product"]]
*[[HR:sbemail149.swf|view the Flash file for "candy product"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}

User talk:AbdiViklas

2006-02-24T02:41:36Z

Spell4yr: /* Google fight? */

=='''Explanatory note'''==
On Oct. 9, 2005, I changed my name from '''notstrongorbad''' to '''AbdiViklas'''. This was prompted by the fact that MediaWiki 1.5.0 wouldn't accept uncapitalized usernames, but motivated by a long-standing wish for a different name. So you'll see a lot of "notstrongorbad" signatures below; that was me. I've changed a few instances, especially when they link, to AbdiViklas.

== Welcome! You've Got Mail ==
Hi! Greetings! I'm just stopping by, here to say a friendly 'hello'. I also wanted to give you a friendly reminder about putting up a User Page about yourself so that we may know more about you ;). No pressure, we're all busy. Hmmmm, but a petition/guestbook asking you to write a user page might be cool. Feel free to remove this if you feel it to be obstrusive. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:LOL--you guys are incorrigible! I just wish the real world worked that way--you walk into a party: "Hi." "Who is this fascinating stranger? You must tell us all about yourself!" Seriously, I'll get to work at once! [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 04:49, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

=== Petition ===
We, the undersigned, do beleive it <strike>would be</strike> ''is'' very cool to see a [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] user page. ''Moreover, we sincerely thank ''notstrongorbad'' for writing such an amazing user page!'' (Feel free to initial somehow for revision.)

*--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:19, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC) ''KL''
*— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
*--[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
*{{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}}
*{{User:The Paper/sig}}
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*[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]]
*— {{User:Lapper/sig}}
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=== Yay! ===
I haven't had time but to skim it so far, but I wanted to go ahead and leave a note to say thanks for letting us know about yourself. I myself was a music ed major in college (actually a double major with Spanish—and now I'm a graphic designer). I primarily played horn, but I also had to learn all the other instruments, including violin, as part of my degree plan. Cello was my favorite stringed instrument. Well, it's late, so I will give your user page the closer read it deserves in the morning. Talk atcha later! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:01, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Whoa! A graphic designer who can speak Spanish and play every instrument! You should, like, write an opera in Spanish and record every part yourself, then design the CD cover!
::LOL. Nice. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:09, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:It's funny you say that, because that's a lot of what I do. I don't write operas, but I help publish a music educators magazine for our state association. I still speak Spanish (although not as much as I should to remain fluent... gotta get on that), and I just recently finished a CD cover. If I did write an opera (and it was hard enough just writing for theory and comp classes), I don't think I could record every part myself... that is, I can play brass instruments pretty well, but my best song on the violin was "Go Tell Aunt Rhody." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::I've given it a second read (I didn't wait till morning like I said I would), and although the lateness of the hour precludes my being especially witty or profound, I do have one remark: I hope that what you really meant for the last line was "The Beginning." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:42, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::Ditto. Ok where did all of my original ideas go? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:29, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Can you help me? ==

What is this STUFF and everything you were talking about? And can you see what this little 15 year old punk did? Every move I made he reverted, even though all but the first email one was valid.

-Mortacai
:     Absolutely. First of all, the links that bkmlb left on your talk page are good reading; [[Help:Contents|Help]] is mostly on ''how'' to do things, [[HRWiki:Standards|Standards]] more on ''what'' to do. But they're kind of a lot to take in; I just today noticed some excellent details on how to make some stuff more easily at [[Help:Contents#Specific Help]]. 
:     But to answer your question: [[HRWiki:STUFF]] is a sort of formal voting process. Using the most recent email as an example: usually when an email comes out, disagreements will arise about what they're saying; at first people will talk about them in [[Talk:geddup noise|that email's Talk page]], and if there are two clear sides, or if it's an important issue, someone will move the fact being discussed into [[Template:STUFF/geddup noise|Stuff]], using the process described in [[HRWiki:STUFF]]. There it'll be voted on; even if it's declined those votes and arguments will be archived forever and can be found. Voting tends to be pretty restrictive, i.e. not much gets by; if I'm really interested in an e-mail I'll check the archived Stuff arguments. For instance: the possible bit of trivia expressed in [[Talk:Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_9#Byrds_reference]] is way too speculative to appear in the official, user-end page for that 'toon, but it's helpful to know. 
:     By the way, I know it's frustrating being repeatedly reverted, but dramatic actions to the official, front-page part of an article are simply met with equally dramatic reversal. When that happens, just move your point to the less public Talk or Stuff venues, and see what majority opinion is. You might be overruled, but you always have the right to express your opinion (there, at least). For example, in [[do over]], there was a LONG and HEATED debate about a possible [[Talk:do_over#Change_of_Pace_.28ACCEPTED.29|Family Guy reference]]. Jay was strongly against it, and in the end was voted down; he had to live with it, but was able to [[Talk:do_over#IMMEDIATE_contesting_of_an_Accepted_fact|continue the debate]]. 
:     So yeah, what Camalex did wasn't really unusual or rude, just the way it's done. Also, this Wiki is an amazingly civil and democratic place; conversation is (usually) done politely, and someone's age doesn't really have much to do with it. There are quite a few amazingly mature, articulate, ca.-12-yr-old users who keep the place shipshape. 
:     I know this is long, but I just wanted to say great edit on [[guitar]]. I can't believe no one had caught that earlier. --[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 05:31, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Tha Lyrical Flow==
Hey, '''notstrongorbad''', just dropping you a line. So, you're the master of the violin, eh? My girlfriend plays one of those things in something called an "orchestra," but that just sounds like crazy music-talk to me. Dozens of musicians all playing a variety of instruments at the ''same time''? Can it be ''done''? Furthermore, do you get in bragging rights fights with the viola people? Have you ever played "the word's smallest violin" for someone?

I myself only play the electrical guitar and the electric bass, and I have zero formal training in either. Needless to say, I would never call myself a "guitarist." But, for the style of music I play (punk), ''no'' talent is necessary! Anyway, I dig your long-winded, rambling comments. There's too much succinctness, terseness and brevity at the wiki, and running up the word count rules. Cheers, {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 12:46, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, I used to play in a couple of community "orchestra"-contraptions until this thing called '''grad school''' (imagine [[origins|jittery green text]] plus "lurking horrors" sfx) happened. And yeah, I don't know about bragging, but violins and violas get in some good jokes at each others' expence. ("Which is bigger, a vln. or vla.? Really they're the same size; it just looks that way 'cause the violinists have such big heads." "How do you tell when the viola section is at your door? '''No one knows when to come in.'''") 
:     But punk's more fun. Now do you mean old-school, The Clash-type punk, or one of the many offspring of punk's indiscriminate liaisons with other genres (hardcore, loudcore, punk-pop (wha??? shouldn't that be a contradiction?)...)? — [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 09:05, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::'''nsob''', I knew there was some "good-natured ribbing" going on between the violin/viola sets. That's good to hear, no pun intentionally meant! As for my "craft" I was raised on the smooth, soulful sounds of [[Wikipedia:The Descendents|The Descendents]] and the [[Wikipedia:Dead Kennedys|Dead Kennedys]], so there's more than a little post-surf punk going on in my stuff: tight, sometimes sliding (you know, those surfy "twang") riffs, semi-melodic vocals, and drums that try to mix it up beyond the straight 4/4 (see the "snooty independent record store" easter egg in [[comic]] for more insight on that). My friend (and owner of one of those cute, fledging start-up labels that will be putting my "music" out) calls it "electro-punk", since I use a drum machine. Ah, the Alesis AS-16. So much, ''much'' easier to deal with than an actual drummer.

:::For my next "album," an EP, I'm basically paying tribute to one of my recent punk favorite adoptees, [[Wikipedia: The Alkaline Trio|The Alkaline Trio]], except without all the macabre imagery. Just plety of relentlessly fast guitar work and songs clocking in under two minutes. In fact, I'ma go blaze through a set right now. Thanks for responding and giving me a chance to rant about my music! — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 12:56, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::::LOL—yeah, there's also a joke about that new drum machine, an emulator ''so'' authentic that it shows up half an hour late for rehearsal and then asks to crash at your place because its girlfriend threw it out! (By the way, you can tell when the punk drummer is at your door because... the knocking speeds up whenever it gets louder.) — [[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 19:35, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::::'''Abdi''' - man, is that odd - thanks for the drummer-related laughs. Incidentally, I've worked with about half a dozen drummers, and their biggest crime was being too professional (i.e., ''prima donnas''), but perhaps one day I can work with the guy kicked out of his place by his girlfriend. That, indeed, would be rocking and scary at the same time. {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 02:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)~

:::::nice. just nice. next there'll be a guitar that gets hangovers and doesn't even ''show up'' for practice. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:47, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Heimstern responds! ==
Glad to see someone noticed my new user page! Yes, here at UCSB, most people start the Ph.D. program immediately after the bachelor's. Glad to hear that you remembered the Tristan chord; that is a personal fascination of mine. That being said, I am hoping to look into 20th-century tonal and/or centric music. I haven't decided on a dissertation topic yet, though. Anydangway, keep on tranglin'. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:50, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==New name==
Heh. Oops. You should move your welcome to your new name. It will create an automatic redirect from the old name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:28, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:I had the impression we weren't supposed to create subpages if we can help it; are you saying I should move it to User:AbdiViklas/welcome? I just changed the references to myself and have been subst'ing it same as ever; seems to work okay. (I'm a little lost by what you mean about an automatic redirect...?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:30, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yes, if you're abandoning the old name you should move it. You'll see what I mean about the redirect once you move it. Also (and I don't know whether it's too late), but you should also see [[HRWiki:Changing username]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:33, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::See the "move" link at the top of the page? That's what you're looking for on your welcome page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:39, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Hm; apparently I didn't move that correctly. I guess you meant using the formal "move" procedure... I'll look into that, just a sec. But meanwhile, the old one's been marked for deletion... EDIT CONFLICT okay, thanks for the help; I'll see what I can do... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::That better? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yes. And I thought the procedure was necessary because other users' pages were linking to your old welcome, but now I see that no pages link to it. I can just delete the old one now, I suppose. (And isn't it more fun to do something the prescribed way instead of the duct-tape way? ;) ) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yup! (Unless some doctor could prescribe duct-tape... I haven't found one yet.) Also, yeah, I saw [[HRWiki:Changing username|Changing username]] after it was already too late. But I had my preferences back in a few minutes, and I linked to my old contributions from my user page; I don't see that I'm missin' much. If there's anything I've missed that's a problem for the wiki, not just an inconvenience for myself, let me know! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Hi from Schuminweb ==

Thanks for the welcome message.

I've actually been familiar with the HRWiki for quite some time, and had a username on here at least as recently as September when I did an edit on Senor Cardgage. Then I attempted to log in to make these most recent edits, and my username was gone (go figure). So I reregistered my same name. Again, go figure.

Otherwise, though, I definitely do know my way around, not only here, but I'm quite a regular Wikipedian.

Still, I don't understand how I lost my username. Ah, well. Life goes on. [[User:Schuminweb|Schuminweb]] 22:49, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Capitalization... It used to be so coooool... ==

It is NOT the standard on this Wiki to write TGS issues in all-lowercase, even though Strong Bad does. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks! I didn't get an answer on that! So... what gets capitalized? Proper nouns like Nick at Nite? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:: Anything that would normally be capitalized, in general: proper nouns, first words of sentences, and, of course, anything Strong Bad writes in AAAAAALL CAPS!!! ''{said in the same fashion as "SOOOO GOOD!"}'' --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:11, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::What about surprising instances; e.g. in the 'toon proper Manolios capitalizes all of his business, "Manolios Ugly One's Lectro-Pawn," but in the easter egg he leaves "Lectro-Pawn" capped and uncaps the rest? Or maybe at that point it's getting too nitpicky. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:14, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Rant re TGS 10 ==
''{The STUFF'd fact about the Coach's voice not being Strong Bad's prompted the following entry. Jay quite rightfully got it off the STUFF page, which is hardly the place for it, but I was kind of fond of it, so I moved it here.}'' 
     This is another of those "4th Wall" issues that tend to get me talking [[Talk:geddup_noise#Rant_Re:_Reality|at length]]. I can feel it coming. 
     As something Strong Bad authors, TGS is a fiction ''within'' the fiction Strong Bad exists in. Since its origins in [[comic]], it's been in some ways moving away from an awareness that it's being created by Strong Bad and bleeding into the exterior H*R world (by being listed on Toons, for instance). The increasing frequency of voices that don't sound like Strong Bad would fit this trend (or you could argue they're simply Matt running out of voices). 
     ''On the other hand'', several recent episodes have contained reminders of Strong Bad's authorship; he wrote himself into Episode 9, and now—'''now'''—we have the first appearance of the exterior H*R world in a TGS episode. Although this would seem to contribute to the "bleed" in the previous paragraph, it in fact does the latter; it emphasizes TGS as an interior fiction when we see it lying there on the table. (Of course Strong Bad's makey outy action just throws the whole thing for a loop: first he draws himself ''into'' the interior fiction, then causes his representation ''in that world'' to interact with its characters, then interacts ''himself'' across the existential boundary.) The relative reality (within H*R) of TGS wobbles dramatically during this episode: Strong Sad reduces it to "looose leaf," while Strong Bad gets drawn into its fictional reality (figuratively and literally). The introduction of color and fancier animation is no accident, either; they of course heighten the perceived reality of the TGS universe. Enough to make all our minds spin 360 degrees. 
     So where does that leave me on this vote? Honestly, I dunno. This is sure as heck not the ''first'' time (Mr. Pitters, the vultures that eat him, and others are arguably un-Strong-Bad-like), but whether such voices are in fact '''not''' Strong Bad has to do with how rigid the authorial connection of Strong Bad to TGS has become. If anything, this episode simultaneously weakens and cements that bond. So.... NO. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

==STUFF nuances==
Hey AbdiViklas (I'm still not used to that). The instructions on the standards page read: "If there's any reasonable doubt, ... please add it to the Talk page or the STUFF page before adding it to the article." Well, that's exactly what Kookykman did, so I don't think it's necessary to list that on the STUFF page. Also, the comments section isn't really for communicating with specific users. That's one of the reasons we don't sign comments, to keep a little distance between the comments and the commenter (and so that we don't degrade into personal attacks (we used to have a ''huge'' problem with that)). Perhaps your comments to Kookykman would be better suited for his talk page. Just a thought. All in all, you're getting the hang of it... just remember, in STUFF, the shorter, the better. This is kind of changing the subject, but while I'm thinking about it, you should join us in the [[HRWiki:IRC channel|IRC chatroom]] sometime. It's much easier to get to know folks, and one can ask questions to his or her heart's content. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:24, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the tip! Yeah, the difference between "Talk" and "STUFF" hasn't been entirely clear to me. And yeah, I'd love to hang out on IRC, except that I really ought not to spend even as much time on the Wiki as I do, and can't really bring myself to justify IRC time. Maybe around Thanksgiving break or the likes! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:48, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey there. How are ya? When there's more than one STUFF revision, it's not necessary for you to completely move your vote. You should just decline one revision and accept the other. (You could also decline more than one revision, should you choose.) When one of the votes is close, it's actually better if you don't remove yours from the list. The only thing that isn't currently allowed is for someone to ''accept'' more than one revision. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== Thank you for the welcome. ==

I've actually been around for a while here, (and was at Wikipedia before that) but I guess I brought some attention to myself by STUFFing that fact. I wasn't expecting an acceptance, which is why I STUFFed it instead of putting it on the page. Thank you for your kindness in handling the matter.--[[user:Kookykman|The Kooky One]][[User talk:Kookykman|(talk)]] 12:31, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:Cool; it's not the first time I've welcomed a non-newcomer, but I figure better that than accidentally let a real newcomer go unwelcomed. I'm big on the whole idea of being "welcoming," obviously. Thanks for responding! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:50, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

== Note to Self ==

Cheat talk standardized through Puppet Time. [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:40, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Pages that need serious work, or completion, if I (or anbody else for that matter) happen to be bored:'''
*[[Happy Trogday]]
*[[Everybody to the Limit Visuals]]
*[[Ballad of The Sneak#DVD Version]]

'''Issues to check in on from time to time:'''
*[[Mellow Mushroom/The Sun Almost Rises]]
*stripe-ed etc.
*teenage variations

== Duffrence ==

Can you make a Hilary Duff reference????? RHRN the Zerg Jigglypuff

:If you mean say something about her on my user page, probably not. But you could mention her on your own user page! Just read [[HRWiki:User space]]. (But make sure it doesn't turn into a Hillary Duff fansite; it should mostly be related to the wiki, but mentioning her as one of your interests is appropriate.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:06, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

No no no! I mean without insulting her like TBC? RHRN

:Sorry--I still don't understand. (By the way, I have nothing against Hillary Duff; I'm 25, though, and a little old to be enthusiastic about her "hawtness.") Also, unrelatedly, you can sign your name real nifty-like by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>! Three leaves your name, four your name plus the time (like I'm about to do), and five is just the time. Here I go now. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:21, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

I understand. You're not the one insulting her. That's the point. And I wouldn't. RHRN the Zerg Jigglypuff. Make sure accounts that do insult Hilary Duff blocked until they stop for a week.

== slight mistake ==
Just wanted to let you know, you accidentally copied your User page onto [[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82's]] talk page.—[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 23:15, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
:Wow—thanks for picking that up. (By the way, is there any rule against creating user pages that simply redirect to another wiki?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:18, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

::None at all. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 23:23, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== Dude... ==

I have been a member of the Fanstuff HRWiki for the longest time, I know the rules.--[[User:Witchesbrew82|Witchesbrew82]] 23:25, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

:Cool. Didn't mean to offend! (Also, I didn't notice that that was ''our'' Fanstuff; I thought it was just some random H*R site.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:28, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Im glad that you were the first person to see me, so your objective of a teacher is verry cool, in fact im a bit of a comic maker and inventor, so anywhey tanks a l07!
--[[User:Ed500|Ed500]] 12:23, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the thanks! Do you know about the related [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/ fanstuff wiki]? If you have H*R-related comics, you can share them there! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 12:39, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for welcoming me. I thought that was very nice of you. I'm adding you to my favorite users list. I've been looking around the wiki for months now and only just created an account, so I know what some things are, but not much. Anyways, thanks. -Brightstar Shiner
:Cool. Yeah, I ''used'' the Wiki for a good year and a half without really doing much editing. By the way, you can sign your name simply by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>; it makes it link to your user page. Three tildes yields just your name; four is name plus date (as I'm about to do), and five is just the date. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:07, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::Five tildes makes the date? 01:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC) FIle that under "Things I Didn't Know About MediaWiki"! Anyhoo, thanks for the warm welcome. I'm somewhat active on Wikipedia, so I know my way around a wiki. I came here for a bit of fun ;) {{User:Thetorpedodog/SIG}} 01:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that's how I separated my name from the date on my welcome template! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks AbdiViklas! (just so you know, I was the one who created the real-world references for DVD version on [[garage sale]], but if you look in recent changes it shows an IP) I realized you left me a welcome message on my talk page (I am on2see, I can't get Firefox to remember wiki cookies (any help appreciated)) Thanks again! [[User:On2see|On2see]]
:Glad you got a username! Now then—you mean you're having a problem staying logged in because Firefox won't use the cookies? (And by the way, brownie points and good karma to ya for using Firefox!) For me, if I go to the '''Tools''' menu, then '''Options''', then the '''Privacy''' tab, I find the controls for cookies. My settings are "allow sites to set cookies," "for the originating site only," and keep "til they expire," and it seems to work fine for me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:34, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, I changed my settings, but now on some pages it shows I am logged in (ex. on the page that shows right after I log in) and, well, ''sometimes not...'' (ex. right now as I am editing your talk page, it shows my ip address and also says '''create an account or log in'''... But thanks for the quick response! You're my favorite Wikipedian (really!) Thanks, [[User:on2see|on2see]]
:::Thanks! But what you're experiencing is still odd, and it would be nice to get it tracked down. One other thing: when I sign in, I usually select the "remember me" checkbox (since I'm using my own computer in my own apartment); if I hadn't, I'd need to sign in each time I re-open my browser. If you're using a private computer you might try that. Beyond that, you'll need the help of those who know more about these superboxes than I do, to figure out why your cookies are crumbling. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:25, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Bad = Marzipan ==

Hey Abdi! Yeah, I originally heard the song say "Strong Bad ''is'' Marzipan" also... I, too, thought that was weirder than weird. So, you're not alone. Crapfully yours, [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 23:58, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

:Cool. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC) ''{comment continued in next thread}''

== T-shirt pitches==
Hey, as a theory type, I was just muddling over whether there were any rhyme or reason to the pitches selected for the t-shirts in the store? I was on the verge of doing a set analysis, but somehow my sense of perspective must have put in an unwonted appearance. I mean, it's probably just Matt humming whatever he wants into a mic--but wouldn't it be cool if it turned out to accidentally fit some complicated explanation! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:22, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
:I wondered that myself. For awhile, I thought it was a whole tone scale, but I found that wasn't correct. So, after reading your question, I decided to use my theory chops (and that neat little trick called absolute pitch) to find out what it is. Here's what I got: A-B-C#-D#-F#-G#-A#-C-C#-D-Eb-F-G-Bb. So, there are some whole-tone segments, but it's certainly not entirely whole tone. Not to mention that I swear a few of them are some kind of quarter tone. I can't really find any good pattern for it at all (if only it had been octatonic! A little Homestravinsky Runner!) Geez, the other, normal, non-music-nerd people on the Wiki are going to have no idea what the heck I'm talking about. Anyway, that's the answer I've got for your question. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 04:30, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
::LOL!! Homestravinsky Runner—''there's'' something for Fanstuff. (How 'bout what would have happened if, instead of They Might Be Giants, they had outsourced [[different town]] to, say, Philip Glass? "''Towanisqatsi'': You'll Think You're Pea-Buried Alive!") But I'm going with the "Matt humming whatever he wants into a mic" analysis. (Though more interesting—perhaps venturing into psychoacoustics?—would be what intervallic structure, invented or otherwise, may have subconsciously influenced his output?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I don't know where this fits into the discussion, but I think they recorded the sound once and then modulated it up and/or down. Other than the pitch, the sound effect is uniform from one T-shirt to the next. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:49, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Hm—true. Which would actually make it ''more'' likely that the resulting pitches are intentional. Hm. On closer inspection (and note, we're talking about the lineup in [[Flash Store]] here), I hear the last pitches from D through G a half step higher than you (Bb I hear the same). If this were true, and it were reduced into prime form—crap, it still wouldn't be chromatic. I'm not taking the time to think through this very carefully, but I ''think'' prime form would be G#-A-A#-B-C-C#-D#-E-F#. This would be chromatic for the span of a perfect fourth and octatonic for another perfect fourth; there, that makes as good a sense as any. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

::::: "Rondleman is my D-S-C-H!" Abdi, that is, IMHO, ''at least'' as good as Homestravinsky Runner! You crack me up! Crack! me! up! As for the pitches, you may be right (one thing that was driving me crazy was that a lot of them sounded like they were between two semitones). It's as good a theory as any. This has to be one of the weirdest intersections of Homestar Runner addiction and music nerdiness ever to appear on the Wiki... it's awesome. Maybe I should suggest that the other Homestar fans at my department read this. They'd probably think I've been smoking something. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::Yeah, in particular that D and/or D# for the TGS shirt. If we take that to be a D, it gets even cooler: chromatic G#-D, one tritone; whole-tone D-G# (by implication), the remaining tritone!! (And yes... there needs to be a Trogdorcon-style segment of Strong Bad making fun of anybody who'd do what we just did.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:35, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

So, I just found out that I wasn't even looking at the same set of pitches as you. I didn't realize the T-shirt pitches even existed in the new store and was using the old store t-shirt pitches. So, there may be a bit of difference because of that (notably, the old store had more pitches). That being said, I'm a little busy reading ''Stravinsky and the Rite of Spring'' right now to make any comparisons between the collections (although Prof. van den Toorn might be pleased if I found some octatonic/diatonic intersections in the collections...) Anyway, as always, I remain, [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 19:30, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

:No, I realized we were talking about the [[Flash Store]] when you cited 14 pitches, and my comments above have been in connection to them. I would guess that, even ''if'' there was a musical motivation in their pitch-shifting decisions for the 14-shirt lineup, the pitches that exist in the current store are simply a result of which t-shirts have been dropped. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:36, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

== arguments??? ==

I don't give arguments to back up my edits!--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
:Oh. If you're talking about my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Stephen923&diff=175892&oldid=169416 post on your talk page] about [[pizzaz]], then no, I don't normally post to people's talk pages when I edit either. In this case, though, you had already made the edit and I had reverted it several times, so I thought explaining myself might have been better than reverting at each other in silence. Incidentally, since then, I noticed somebody else (I forget who, but I think a sysop) put a "sic" in an html comment (<nowiki></nowiki>), saying he didn't like seeing them in the transcript. So your edit was actually a good one (although we should still put it in a comment). Unfortunately—since you ''don't'' give arguments to back up your edits, even by using the "Summary:" box, all I could tell was that you didn't know what ''sic'' means. Perhaps next time an edit summary would be helpful. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:12, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:No, it's about the Marshie history page.--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
::I see. Still, [[HRWiki:Standards#Always use the Summary box|using the summary box]] is a good idea. (Actually, more than just a good idea.) If you make an edit, you probably have a reason for doing so; explaining that reason might make others less likely to revert it, or at least let them know you're making thoughtful edits and not just trolling. (Getting a user name helps in the same way; props in that regard.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:16, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Um...was this suppossed to be for me? That's what it says...if this is about the edits I have made with no summary, it was because I accidentally clicked "save page" before putting in the summary. -[[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 23:21, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
::::No no, sorry 'bout that; I confused the two "S" people who posted on my page today. I was talking to [[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]. (And you don't have to tell me about the perils of clicking "Save page" too early; I need to learn to use "Show preview" more often. Then I'd have fewer consecutive edits where I correct my own spelling or add periods. And less crushed spirits, too!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:31, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::::From the Marshie history page, ''(Reverted edit of 24.24.226.13, who perhaps will give us some argument to back up his edit, and changed back to last version by DorianGray)''--[[User:Stephen923|Stephen923]]/24.24.226.13
:::::Yes, I know what you're talking about. My reply is four paragraphs above. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:31, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== Ooooooops!!! ==

I guess I should have looked the word "pronunciation" up in a dictionary before i changed it...sorry about that!! [[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 22:37, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
:S'cool! By the way, if you're using Firefox (if you're not... '''do!'''), there's a nice plugin called DictionarySearch that lets you right click on a word and look it up instantly in a dictionary. (I also used Firefox's "keyword search" function on www.m-w.com's search box, so I can just type, say, "mw pronunciation" into the address bar and go straight to the definition. Just two more examples of why Life Is Better With Firefox!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:41, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

::Ok, thanks for the advese...advise. [[User:Sbemail|Sbemail]] 22:43, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

== Verse ==

I'm cool with making that read like poetry. I just copied it from the WP article. But is it a poem? I thought it was just a saying. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:30, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:Again, I assume it was in German at first. I added the slash because it was the only thing I could figure the semicolon was thinking of. It ''is'' a rhyming couplet; although it's certainly not "a poem," a lot of folk wisdom sayings are expressed in rhyme. I think the fun fact could do just fine without the slash, though; just so long as there isn't a semicolon there! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:34, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::I just figured whoever put the semicolon there did so because of all the commas before it, in an attempt to separate it. But the solidus is fine with me. By the way, it's "[[User:It's dot com|Dot com]]." :) 06:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:::?? I.e. if I'm going to drop the "It's" you'd prefer I capitalize the ''d''? But don't you prefer the "It's" be included anyway? (I was being a little informal in the summary; sorry!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Hmmm... I think all would be best explained by a trip to the first line of my [[User:It's dot com|user page]] (although I was also partially rebelling against the one-word "dotcom" variety from the edit summary on the STUFF page). — [[User:It's dot com|Dot com]] 06:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

==Welcome==
Hey AbdiViklas. I was just wondering how you are welcoming people with your user page instead of a welcome. It is obvious that you are doing it by accident. Do you use a sub page? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 18:58, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yup. I'm supposed to type ''<nowiki>{{subst:User:AbdiViklas/welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>''. In a hurry, I often forget the ''/welcome'' part. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:01, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::Why don't you just copy and paste it? Thats what I do, and it has been working pretty well. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:03, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I suppose I could. It's one step longer than ''subst'', but fool-proof! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:05, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I have been doing it 150 times. No problems yet! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:07, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

----

Thanks for the welcome. Almost as fast as we do at [http://furry.wikicities.com/ WikiFur] (and, truth be told, somewhat more polished ;-). [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] 05:26, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks! I know we've got at least one Furry enthusiast around here, [[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]], although he hasn't been around much lately. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:33, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:: *chuckles* - yes, I know furrykef, he used to hang out with us in [irc://irc.freenode.net/wikicities #wikicities]. Been a fortnight since I've seen him - maybe he's gone on an online poker binge . . . [[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]] 05:39, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sid and Marty Kroft Present: G.K. Chesterton ==

Abdi, because of you I now know of G.K. Chesterton. If I ever come across a "Father Brown" story, I'll know the truth - the truth embodied in a large, walrus-like British author/journalist. I now consider myself just that much richer in spirit. Next order of bwisness - determining the fate of Mayor McCheese. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 13:17, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

:Seriously. You should see me when I find out that there's some out-of-print story of his I haven't read! I do a little dance that certain NFL touchdowners have been known to refer to as "vulgar excess." So yeah, if you like detective stories, Father Brown is a great way to start (particularly ''[http://www.ccel.org/c/chesterton/innocence/title.html The Blue Cross]'', but the best-known, and arguably best, piece of fiction he ever wrote is the novel ''[http://www.ccel.org/c/chesterton/thursday/thursday.html The Man Who Was Thursday]''. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:55, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Losing the will to check the edits closely ==

I knew that would happen. Earlier today I had to force myself not just to hit the revert button, and actually examine the edit. Why won't this guy talk to us? On an unrelated note, I have, upon reflection, decided that compromise might be the best avenue for the New Boots/different town non-reference. It's too bad B left so quickly, before we could have a chance to really discuss it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:52, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Indeed, it's perplexing. I can't figure out whether he (or she, but he in the future for simplicity) is an extremely zealous, extremely well-meaning, extremely misguided individual, or a one-trick troll. Some of his edits really are improvements, like correcting something to reflect what SB really typed, but others seem to just add !s where there are few and take them away where there are many. But no, in the final analysis I think he must be well meaning. My only explanation for the silence is either that he's a true "gnome," who tries to do good but is shy and prefers anonymity, or that he's a user so new he hasn't discovered his own talk page or Recent changes, and is simply selecting emails at random. (Say—there isn't any kind of browsing setup that would keep someone from seeing the "new messages" banner, is there?) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:17, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I'm confounded as well. My hunch was that he <s>or she</s> was never getting the message, hence my test on the sandbox, but I was able to receive my message to myself just fine as an anonny. And this guy's not even experiencing the weird IP changes I was, so that shouldn't be an issue. No, I think we're being ignored. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:22, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== On Trolling and other Isomorphisms... ==

Don't mind my nonsensical banter... I am currently (''not'') working on writing a statement of purpose for my fellowship application (properly read: ''avoiding it''). Don't ask when it's due, otherwise you'd be shocked. Anyway, I was thinking we should make up a section called ''[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=187594&oldid=187593 trolls post the dardnest things.]'' It would be a hit don't you think? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:It would be ''hilarious''... but don't you think people would then ''try'' to get in it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:01, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, I'd read it. Several times. In fact, I'd print it and read it offline. Now I'm excited. I really hope this is able to be done ''somewhere''. I'd love helping this thing. Please tell me you had even an iota of seriousness in that suggestion. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::EDIT CONFLICT (or whatever): Yes, people trying to get in might be bad... Perhaps it'd be better to not broadcast the idea.
::I think they would want to get in. I admit that I've gotten an occasional guilty pleasure out of reading the ridiculous things trolls write (and I'm always thinking to myself, "This is vandalism! I'm not supposed to find this funny!") Anyway, it would just encourage trolls to keep vandalizing if they hoped to get featured somewhere on the Wiki. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:07, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:I'm reminded, for some reason, of the Simpsons (or was it Futurama?) spoof of Bill Cosby's similarly titled show. What if this were done somewhere off-wiki? (I.e. on somebody's website or blog?) 
:Stux: What manner of beast is said fellowship application? It sounds like the sort of thing that carries high stakes. Me, all I have to do is transcribe some field notes and make some lesson plans, but I've been putting it off all day and so will stay up all night to make up (yeah, that's how I work). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:09, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:''(DorianGray): Please tell me you had even an iota of seriousness in that suggestion.'' A hint of seriousness yes, an iota, I am not so sure ;). Unfortunately, yes, this could serve as an incentive. But have any of you guys ever read [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Bad_Jokes_and_Other_Deleted_Nonsense|Bad_Jokes_and_Other_Deleted_Nonsense]] (or rather perused through it)? We'll always have trolls you know, just not as many as the big 'pedia, but even an increase might be 'enough'. As for the fellowship, it is a [http://was.nd.edu/gem/gemwebapp/public/gem_01_100.htm summer-work] type program that links you with industry and helps you pay for your grad school. I'm *finally* getting momentum, esp now that I found my grad school application essay and realized it will likely help me finish what i need to do! <insert *evil grin* here> :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:10, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::I actually ''have'' gone through the Deleted Nonsense stuff on the big wiki. It's amazing... And I'm sure we have our fair share of weirdness... I know I've seen some. Now then. Back to the All Hallow's Eve toon. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::wow, i just looked at that page. hours of wierd things about evil squirrels and chocolate covered raisins......{{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:15, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Note ==

It's not "What am I supposed to do?", but "What ''I'm'' supposed to do?". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:04, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:Oop. Thanks. That makes a little more sense. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:32, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or a little ''less'' sense, depending on how you look at it. I guess it makes more sense for Homestar. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:37, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

==Solfège...==

Humming RE-MI-DO-DO-SOL, eh? What does that refer to? [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:42, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075860/ Close Encounters of the Third Kind]''. Aliens contact Earth—and choose moveable do as the best method of communication. (Seriously—they even know the hand symbols!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:46, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
::That would explain my lack of recognition. I haven't seen that film. And am not missing much, apparently, if it features moveable do. I really dislike moveable do. Talk atcha later. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 01:57, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::WHOA no you don't—knock moveable do and then just postpone the discussion!!! (For onlookers, this is what music nerds fight over. It's like which Elvish language is better.) And them '''is''' fightin' words. I'm not going to go into my rant on the subject at the moment, but it's very entertaining (as long as I don't break anything). On the other subject, you ought to see movie; if you like sci-fi it's a classic, but even if you don't it's a well-shaped movie for its time. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:03, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
::::That's it, man! We are dueling to the death! A PLAGUE UPON MOVEABLE DO! No, just kidding. It's only a personal dislike, not a pedagogical philosophy or anything like that. But, since I have absolute pitch, I don't find it very useful. I prefer a system that always calls a C a C. I actually just use the German names of notes (since they're all monosyllables). I guess a lot of people find moveable do useful, but I was always annoyed that my teachers made me use it too when it isn't my ''modus operandi'' at all. Anyway, that's my philosophy. Talk to my man with the green and white stripes. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 02:12, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Actually, that ''is'' my objection to fixed do (one of them); as long as we're using these letters, it's simply a redundant system. If we were French it would be different, but at the moment we already have a system tied to absolute pitch. (Learning it for the purpose of international communication is a different matter; I have a Korean student whom I use it with since he grew up with it; but for sight-singing purposes it doesn't really bring anything new to the party, where as moveable brings an opportunity to engage tonality.) I guess, in pedagogical contexts, its supporters are putting a higher priority on developing absolute pitch than on developing sensitivity to tonal function. Personally, preferring a less eurocentric view of musics, I'm not as wed to a 12-note, octave-based, equal-tempered system as the be-all and end-all; I think training students to critically match a provided pitch is the most important. (I keep having dreams of writing a piece of ear training software with string instruments in mind that uses some midi controller with a slider—preferably emulating the physical instrument—to adjust the user's pitch to match a generated one, with visual representation on-screen and a little "you win!" message when it matches!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:28, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: I suppose you're right, it's just that I've never used real fixed-do, just my German system (which I usually consider a variant on fixed-do). I don't really have any use for old do, re and mi except when singing ''The Sound of Music'' (which I don't really ever sing). For me, sightsinging is much easier with an absolute pitch system, so I sing "ah, ha, tseh, tseh, deh" (for the Glance motive from ''Tristan'') or whatever for whatever notes I need. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 02:44, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Personally, for my own use, I prefer "moveable la." (Something we used to joke about in college—"La, la, la, la..." Not to mention moveable na, doot, and doo. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:52, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
''{conversation continued in next section...}''

Oh, something just came into my mind about this earlier today: About the first pronouncement I ever heard on the topic of moveable-do (or any kind of solfège) was from my fabulously musical mother, who bluntly told me, "Solfège is stupid." So, I was probably biased against it from the beginning, and that surely contributed to my bad attitude about it for the rest of time. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 07:01, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

==...And the Absoluteness of Absolute Pitch==
I really don't have anything useful to add to this conversation, other than to say I understood it, and to agree with AbdiViklas, because moveable do makes way more sense in the sense of teaching singing within a key or when a particular key isn't important (I realize that's a strange concept to someone with perfect pitch (which I don't have, but I wish I did. I do have pretty good pitch memory, so if you ask me to sing an F, I can usually hit it or at least get within a half step, but I can't hear a note out of the blue and immediately say, Oh, that's an A-sharp)). I still, however, think both AbdiViklas and Heimstern Läufer are cool. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:46, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:And the sentiment is mutual. I have this weird thing that I've heard referred to as "acquired pitch"; i.e. from playing the violin so long I've developed pitch-identification ability within its range, but my skillz have an abrupt cutoff at the bottom note of the violin. Also, certain instrumental "voiceprints" completely throw me for a loop. I can ID a pitch on piano, flute, oboe, saxophone—but I'm pretty inconsistent with clarinet. And, frustratingly, the human voice! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:11, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
::I hear about people being able to identify pitches only on certain instruments all the time. I've never had that experience; to me, a pitch is a pitch, whatever instrument it is. I've actually often wondered what it would be like not to be able to identify and produce pitches at will, and I admit that it baffles me as much as it must baffle the normal people to know that I can do so. Oh, and Dot com, you may not want to wish you had absolute pitch. It's a really neat party trick, but it can be really frustrating. If someone starts singing a song in a key other than the original, it really grates on me. Then there's period-instrument recordings: while I certainly respect their intentions, I really can't listen to them because they play everything too low. So, those are the disadvantages of absolute pitch. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:30, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Ah, now I don't have that problem. I can ''tell'' when something isn't aligned to a modern, Western, equal-temperament A-440 scale, but I don't suffer under it. After all, our selection of A-440 is so arbitrary (unless there's some kind of acoustic principle I don't know about, like the circumference of the earth divided by the distance to da mooon on the winter solstice equals A-440), and, although there are some mathematical arguments for our division of the octave, I prefer to engage the scale systems of other cultures on their own terms. Admittedly, it is a little hard for me to listen to a [[Wikipedia:Gamelan|Gamelan]] and remember that it's not just "out of tune," that they tuned it to those pitches just as carefully as I do, but if it's a 10-minute piece I get acclimated before long. The alternative is the colonial British attitude that dismissed the Carnatic system as a primitive "folk music" because their "poor intonation" was "indicative of a bad ear."
:::     And yeah, I played in Eastman's baroque ensemble for a couple of years (I didn't realize at first what a resource I had there, or who [http://www.esm.rochester.edu/faculty/?id=115 Paul O'Dette] was!), and it really throws you for a loop to play roughly an exact half step down. After the first 10 minutes of the rehearsal, though, I just get recalibrated into "Baroque mode." (But when listening to my prized [http://www.barockorchester.de/englisch/e_orchest.htm Freiburger] CDs, I still mentally identify what I'm hearing as a half step below what's written, and if I try to think about it it screws me up. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:08, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::Arbitrary A=400 is indeed, yet it is completely ingrained into my ear. I guess it wouldn't make a difference if the Baroque ensemble were playing a piece I didn't know, since I wouldn't know its real key (although it sounds odd to me to hear a Baroque piece in Db major, since that was a rather uncommon key during that era.) The biggest problem is anything well-known: if it's ''The Messiah'' or a Brandenburg concerto the lower pitch is just going to sound wrong to me. Ahistorical and arbitrary, but still part of my congnition. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:03, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, same here. I have the problem of kind of subconsciously imagining the physicality of the note, i.e. the fingering they're doing—which gets pretty funky in Db (or Gb!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::[[Wikipedia:Pitch (music)#Historical pitch standards]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:24, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Amen, hallelujah, preach it. Also http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi1305.htm. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Hi guys! I've been following this conversation for a while, and I figured I may have something to actually contribute: I have this vague recollection from my physics II class that the reason 440Hz is used is in part due to resonance qualities of the material. That is, that would be why we'd use 440Hz and not 439 or 441. (????) I'm trying to find out more about the subject, then again reading about [[Wikipedia:Pitch_%28music%29#Need_to_standardize_pitch|Pitch standardization]] suggests that I remembered it wrong, and that the resonance frequencies have to do with all the ''C'' frequencies being the same, and the pitch really IS arbitrary. (Apparently they tried to set A at 439 once but it being prime was really hard to reproduce). While reading i'm learning about such big phrases as [[Wikipedia:Fundamental_frequency|Fundamental_frequency]] and [[Wikipedia:Harmonic series (music)|Harmonic series]]. Hmmm, maybe I don't have anything to contribute... I like shiny things. (There, that's better!). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:37, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::But don't assume we ''really'' play at A-440 today. We had an Israeli/French/German conductor at Eastman who routinely tuned us to 442 or so. I hear it's fairly popular in Europe (but what do you expect from people who drink Warm Ones). I hear also there's some concern about pitch just continuing to rise "out of control" (see a [http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2003/2003-January/001455.html response] to that concern). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:15, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Wow! Did I just read that correctly? Fines by the Italian government for tuning forks outside of 440!? O_o --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:57, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Proposed, proposed. And as I read more I'm getting very confused; I'm not sure what connection [[Wikipedia:Lyndon LaRouche|a guy]] who tried to run for president from jail has to the Italian senate, or whether any bill with his name on it would really be taken seriously. On the one hand, it must seem remarkable to the general onlooker that these music nerds are ''at'' each other's ''throats'' over a half-step, but on the other hand the whole "Slatkin serves Satan" thing and the absurdity of all these shenanigans are vaguely pleasing to me. They renew my faith that the "classical" music scene has not simply ossified into an arena for the performance of 18th-century works with 19th-century sensibilities amid 20th-century conventions of a darkened, hushed audience composed mainly of nursing home excursions and tobacco heiresses trying to assuage their inherited guilt by donating to a cause that is both ostensibly societally uplifting and effectually exclusivist. Rather, it offers hope that the sheer ''messiness'' we see in music history—with major composers' mud-slinging, name-calling, old-school/new-school ([[Wikipedia:Ars nova|Ars nova]], [[Wikipedia:Claudio Monteverdi|seconda practica]]), East-coast/West-coast-style invective, rampant rumors that certain [[Wikipedia:Niccol%C3%B2_Paganini|virtuosi]] ''did'' in fact "serve satan," and audiences that simultaneously awarded their [[Wikipedia:Farinelli|favorite vocalists]] with lives of fame, free love, and [http://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/collection/international/painting/a/plate_ipa00014.html gratuitous jewelry] that rival any modern-day blingster, and then gossiped obliviously through the operas to the point that even their pet stars, when their arias came, had to come out to the edge of the stage, grab the spotlight, and gesticulate broadly to wrest their attention—is not dead. (If you didn't follow that sentence, leave out everything between the dashes.) In a way, it's almost a performance art of sorts; LaRouche, his critics, the respective governments, and the colorful, vicious, vivacious rhetoric form one big, societal piece of entertaining pageant—"reality opera," if you will! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:45, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

== Hallrunner ==

Awesome job on [[Hallrunner]]! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:44, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks! I was bored, and using "random page" until I found something worth editing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:50, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

==wiki defender thing...y==

Hey abdi, thanks for the trophy!! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 16:27, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks, dude! That's was awesome to see first thing in the morning! [[User:SparkPlug|SparkPlug]] 19:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

:Hey; that seemed to me to be the clearest example I've seen yet of what it was meant for. But you know, with a little extra effort it would have been chock full of Steak-umms! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:01, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks also from me. :) I didn't do much, but I appreciate it. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 23:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:::And many ''mahalos'' from me too. I think that was the ultimate recognition I've always wanted on here... Thanks, man. And I'd just about had it with that trolling toaster. So I stepped in to fix it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Hizzlary Hahn==

So I just got back from a Hilary Hahn concert. She stuck around afterwards to sign CDs; I cursed myself for not bringing mine, and for not bringing a camera. Can you imagine how a photo of me 'n' Hilary would look on my user page?! (If you're having trouble understanding the significant beautification that this would represent for my page, examine [http://www.hilaryhahn.com hilaryhahn.com].) You have to understand, she's like exactly my age; when I was 16 I bought her solo Bach CD simply because she was on the cover (and no, we're not talking about a [[Wikipedia:Lara St. John|Lara St. John]] cover; her eyebrow alone was enough to sell me), and have harbored a crush ever since. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:34, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:This may actually be the first time I've heard of anyone having a crush on a famous ''classical'' musician. I can't say I've ever had one of those myself. At least I'm glad to hear that not ''all'' the heartthrobs have to be no-talents like Britney Spears. Anyway, that's cool you got to see Hilary Hahn in concert; I hear she's great, although I haven't yet heard her myself. I probably don't listen to as much violin solo music as you do, since I'm a horn-player-turned-tenor. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 16:37, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
::They say you're not supposed to judge a book by its cover, but if she plays half as hot as she looks, then you had an extremely enjoyable concertgoing evening, to put it mildly. You should have drawn a picture of her and handed it to her after the concert. She would have posted it on her website. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:34, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Ah, but she does, that's the marvel of it. Her strong suit is an absolute, impeccable, superhuman purity and perfection of tone and intonation. You could have a competition in which all the major violin supastars play only one note each, and she'd win, for her bow control. Others may have a tone that sounds perfect from 10 feet away, but then you could put it under a microscope and you'd find the tiniest jitter or bump in their sound and none in Hilary's. >>''Edit'': Wait, I just found an Amazon page that puts it well: "Her tone has the directness and intensity of a laser beam and the unblemished purity of fine-spun crystal." (That page, btw, is her own [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/580596/ref=ed_mus_mysh_qp_hahn_1/102-4070132-3504108 music recommendations]; the story of her convergence with [[Wikipedia:...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead|And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead]] is quite amusing.)<< That Her weakness is that her artistic persona and interpretations are fairly reserved, poised, collected, and cool. Not like she's a cold fish, or lacks emotive expression; she can bring it; but she's not all-over-the-place, blood-'n'-guts melodrama like [http://www.nadjasalernosonnenberg.com/ Nadja], and sometimes I want that. I'd actually prefer both artists for different pieces. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::By the way, Heimstern (can I call you Heimstern?), I played horn too! I'm immensely glad I chose it (due to its superiority over all the other brass instruments (I'll insert that qualifier there since this ''is'' AbdiViklas's page, and there's no need to be a bad guest here)), but the real reason I originally selected horn over trumpet is that this hot girl was also in the section. Another ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::Yes, Dot com, please do call me Heimstern. I find it overly formal and awkward when people address me by both first name and surname (if those terms really apply to a pseudonym like "Heimstern Läufer"). I always did love the horn, and I picked it because I liked the instrument, not for any ulterior motives. (I also thought I'd have advantages finding the right notes because of absolute pitch.) Then came college and the teacher from the abyss. We were ''not'' meant for each other at all. So, I'm now a tenor. Let me tell you, the world of vocalists is ''miles'' away from the world of instrumentalists. Half of them seem to seriously believe that singing the right rhythm is optional. I've actually been working on a Schubert song, "Auf dem Strom", which features a horn part in addition to voice and piano. It has to be one of the most beautiful and heartrending songs ever written. It alone proves your point that the horn is the greatest of brass instruments, since no trumpet or tuba could ever be so lyrical and full of ''Sehnsucht''. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 18:58, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::LOL—I had a tubist friend at Eastman who would be up in arms at that. Thanks to his friendship, I know far more about tubas, tuba rep, and where to buy tubas than I'll ever need to. I've also had the joy of hearing the last movement of the [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006LWQH/qid=1132021791/sr=1-17/ref=sr_1_17/102-4070132-3504108?v=glance&s=classical Mendelssohn violin concerto] (listen to track 3) arranged for tuba!! "Bopbopbopbop ''boop'' boodeboop boop boop boop boop boop..." It's something like watching a hippo do a tap routine on a tightrope: astounding, but you wonder why it had to be done. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Well, tubists just exist in a completely alternate universe to us, anyway. My thought about them is the same thing all we tenors think about basses: "Why would anyone ''want'' to sing/play that low?" [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:11, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

==I know I am not supposed to, but==

I need to talk again...
-[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 13:51, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

:Well, you did it the right way this time. Forum ahoy! (Though I can't be much help; I'm leaving in half an hour for a big music teachers' convention.) There are plenty of smart folks over there, though, who can take my place. I will at least check up on your edits at the forum before I leave and when I get back Monday night. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 14:19, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey again, I sent a message to you in the forum, send a repply when you get the chance.
-[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 20:19, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

==A telegrammaparcel==

It is I, '''Sir Strong Bad!''' '''STOP'''

I bid you greetings from the year 1938! '''STOP'''

I'm rather new at this whole electronic communication system. '''STOP'''

So I am just making aquaintances. '''STOP'''

Feel free to leave me an electronic message. '''STOP'''

Farewell, you buffoon! '''STOP'''

'''Sir Strong Bad'''
==Sweden??==
Judging by that message you posted on Sir Strong Bad's talk page, are you seriously from Sweden, or are you just saying that 'cause your name is Abdi'''Viklas'''? Because Sweden is totally my favorite country ever. Because I used to live in Sweden before we moved to Seattle. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:08, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:No no, I'm no more from Sweden than [http://www.mclars.com/ MC Lars] is actually "[http://mclars.com/laptop_lyrics.html#stock Straight Outta Stockholm]." For what it's worth, I'm a hardcore fan of Swedish folk music, especially the group [http://www.noside.com/Catalog/CatalogArtist_01.asp?Action=Get&Artist_ID=45 Väsen]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:16, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::Never heard of it. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:17, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Not an acceptable situation! Check out particularly their second US release, [http://www.noside.com/Catalog/CatalogAlbum_01.asp?Album_ID=101 Whirled] (even though it's from, like, '96, it's still their best single album). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:20, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::::I'll take a look at it. Thanks. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

== Message from Nikolce Kocovski ==

Hey there Abdiviklas, how have you been, i've noticed you mostly answer my questions in the discussion pages, lets get to konw each other:

1.Whats your real name?

2.What do you do for a living?

3.How did you get the name "AbdiViklas"?

4.How long have you been on Homestar runner wiki?

5.How did you find me?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:17, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey there, just so you know, you can get some of the information you want from Abdi's [[User:AbdiViklas|user page]]. A person's user page is usually the best place to start if you want to know about a user. Hope that's helpful! (And, Abdi, hope you don't mind my butting in.) ''(grins sheepishly)'' [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:25, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:Not at all; I've been doing it a good bit myself recently! And he's right, Nikolce; my [[User:AbdiViklas|user page]] explains questions 3 and 4 pretty well. As for #1, I prefer not to use my real name on the internet if I can help it. And for #5, I found you by watching [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] and noticing the questions you were asking on discussion pages.
I have some questions for you, actually!
#How do you pronounce your name? With friends with international names, I like to at least make an effort to pronounce them correctly. I know it's hard to explain in writing, without being able to speak, but at least could you explain the "-ce" ending: does the "e" have much of a sound? If so, is it more of an "ey," like "hey," or "e" like "wet"? And what does the "c" do—a "s" sound, a "k" sound, or a "ch" sound?
#I think we're all a little confused about your gender. You mentioned that your name translates to "Nick," but [[User:Sir Strong Bad|Sir Strong Bad]] adressed you as a lady. (Here "Nick" is usually a guy's nickname, short for Nicholas; the female equivalent is "Nicole." I've never known a girl named "Nick," though I think I have heard of one who went by "Nicky."
#Umm... I guess I only had two questions, but a two-number list didn't seem like a real list. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:03, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:1. The way you say my name is would be like the same way to say Europian names: Nikolce Kocovski-Ne-kol-che Ko-cho-v-ske. 
:2.I'm male, its just that Nick is easier to say then Nikolce, I've never been called Nicholas or Nikky, but you can call me that if you wish. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 04:36, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

== More Anagrams ==

Now look what you've done. That anagram thing you showed me is massively addicting. But there's one in particular I wanna share. "Strongbadia" can be arranged to spell "A brat's doing". Don't you love it when they work out and mean something relavent like that? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:I personally think Strong Bad should abandon the "Prof. Tor Coolguy" moniker in favor of "Dr. Snot Bag". [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:32, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
::But who among us will agree that Strong Mad is "Most Grand"? Although Strong Bad would agree that Strong Sad "Drags Tons", I'm sure. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Holy cow—what storm have I unleashed?? Those are supoib, guys. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:35, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== A Reply ==

Hi. I just wanted to thank you for caring. I appreciate it. [[User:Homsarroks|Homsarroks]] 18:22, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
:Don't mention it. In fact, it could be considered a school assignment, since I'm currently reading [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0807746096/qid=1132443884/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-4070132-3504108?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 The Challenge to Care in Schools: An Alternative Approach to Education]. I find it a little alarming that the idea of giving a crap can be described as "an alternative approach," though in fairness it gets into way more than that. It's about creating a supportive classroom community that doesn't just announce the tenets of "character education" without really believing them, but models and values true... well, caring. Much more fun. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:48, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

== On TOCs and other nuances ==

Hey Abdi! What's up? I wanted to brief you on TOC oddities since you asked about it [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Coach_Z&diff=202369&oldid=202367 here]. Basically, what Mediawiki does is that it hides TOCs for pages with less than 3 titles (i think it's 3 at least), however there are special commands such as <code><nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki></code> that make the TOC be placed in that precise location and have the TOC always be hidden, respectively. I think that toc can make a TOC appear in short pages, but I think <code><nowiki>__FORCETOC__</nowiki></code> might be more of what you need. [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words This page] explains more in depth the different Magic Words available for use in the wiki. I hope this is helpful and informative! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:52, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
:Cool. I thought it had something to do with the titles, and added one at the top of the page (thinking the important thing was that the page start with one); that must have bumped it over three, since a TOC appeared. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:55, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

== Jibney ==

Looking at Jibney's edit history, it looks like he's always been a little off-the-wall. It wouldn't surprise me if he decided he just wanted to start making gibberish edits here and there. But then again, it's also possible someone is trying to make him look bad. Any ideas? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:31, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

:I think he was immitating president bush when he signed your guestbook. I think he just wants attention and wants it bad. My guess is that he either thought it would be ok to deface a vandal's ip user page, or it might even be his own and doesn't know he can't prove that it's his ip. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:38, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

::'''(Edit conflict):''' Yeah; he ''has'' demonstrated an ability to write in at least semi-standard English (e.g. his last few responses on his user page). I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt, since he has made legit article edits like [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strongbadia&diff=prev&oldid=199670]. Remember several of our power users started out rough, with a block or two. ''{after edit conflict}'' ...and I would think it would be more in his interests to prove it's ''not'' his IP! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:42, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:::''(I almost put this [[Talk:The_Brothers_Chaps%27_Fansite_Acknowledgements#Possession|in the wrong section]])'' Jibney claims to have been [[User:Timmy%21|Timmy]], who used to be a vandal. (Not a Visigoth) But yeah the changes are recent enough that it would be best that they are not his. But remember he doesn't have to explain that (innocent till proven guilty?), just explain his current actions. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:52, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yep. And he also identifies himself as one Marshieman on the Fanstuff wiki, who apparently wore out his welcome there for general obnoxiousness in Aug and was blocked for a year. See [[User talk:Jibney#Hello, Marshieman.]]; apparently [[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] has some bad blood for him (see also [[User talk:Jibney#Heh heh...]]). Obviously he has his past, but I'd prefer to hold out hope whenever possible. A mentor orchestra teacher I know has several stories of kids that she would have paid money to get out of her class, who she didn't believe had ''any'' musical talent... who went on to attend conservatories and ultimately become music teachers themselves. Besides, unless blocks are made binding unilaterally across the wikis, he should be judged simply by what he does here.
::::To the best I can tell, neither [[User:Timmy!|Timmy]] nor [[User:Jibney|Jibney]] has ever been blocked here. The user Jibney was created, actually, at [[User:Kerrek_slaya|Kerrek_slaya]]'s suggestion when Timmy couldn't remember his password and didn't have an email address (see [[User_talk:66.169.119.137]]). And to avoid confusion, I strongly doubt that ''our'' [[Special:Contributions/Marshieman|Marshieman]] has anything to do with him. His [[Special:Contributions/Marshieman|edits]] consisted of a spree of obscene, offensive page moves roughly 5 hrs before Jibney's first edits. Timmy/Jibney's style tends to be at worst nonsensical or puerile and involve heavy AOLspeak. Jibney was created 5 hrs too late to give him an alibi, but I really don't think it's him. If I'm right, it wouldn't be the first time someone has tried to make bad edits appear as his; the "Heh heh..." section of his talk page linked above seems to involve some such occurrence on fanstuff. Additionally, both here and on fanstuff, occasional runs of brazenly vandalistic and heavily misspelled edits have been made (e.g. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=185999], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186003], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186005], and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=bedtime_story&diff=prev&oldid=186011]), which he has subsequently [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:66.169.119.137&diff=prev&oldid=186037 explained] as his little sister gaining access to his computer. Although Thatkidsam doubts his veracity rather sneeringly, compare the semiliterate raving of those edits to his explanation; although uncap.d, etc, it shows a different style. And the edit 2.5 hrs [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:boring_%28really%29&diff=prev&oldid=185897 before] the suspicious ones was even more prosaic. Bottom line: the guy makes things hard on himself through AOLspeak and impulsive editting that seems to make more sense to himself than to others, but I see in his saner edits the desire (or at least potential) to be a constructive member of the the wiki, and I'd prefer not to oppose that desire in anyone as long as it remains at the forefront. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:33, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Wow! That is the most thorough analysis of a user I have '''ever''' seen! I didn't even know how many colons to use to indent this thing! Oh yeah I should reply to this too shouldn't I? Well basically you've summed up Jibney's mystery into ... another mystery! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:36, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

== Welcome template ==

Quick question: When I use '''<nowiki>{{subst:welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>''' to greet new users, where does the template come from? Did the change you made to your Welcome template (with the Tour) also affect that tag? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:17, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:Nope. What you're using is [[Template:welcome]]; I took that and made a personalized version which I keep at [[User:AbdiViklas/welcome]], and that's what I editted. You can do the same if you want; you'd use the same code to implement it, but substitute its location for the word "welcome" (e.g. I type <nowiki>{{subst:User:AbdiViklas/welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}</nowiki>). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:40, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
::Or, if you think the tour should be added to the main welcome template itself, you could just add it there. If you decide to do that, however, it might be a good idea to announce your intentions on [[Template talk:welcome]] first. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Personally, I think it should be incorporated into [[HRWiki:Introduction]] first, and then the Introduction should be linked in the welcome template. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:47, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

==HTML Romanian codes==
For my own reference, and the curiosity of anyone who happens by, how to create some of the characters in the Romanian alphabet:
{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" style="text-align:center;"
|- bgcolor="#eeeeee"
! Upper case
! Lower case
! Upper case encoding
! Lower case encoding
! Notes
|-
| Ă
| ă
| &#258;
| &#259;
|  
|-
| Â
| â
| &#194;
| &#226;
|  
|-
| Î
| î
| &#206;
| &#238;
|  
|-
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|Ș}}
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|ș}}
| &#536;
| &#537;
| s with [[Wikipedia:Comma (punctuation)|comma]], not widely supported
|-
| Ş
| ş
| &#350;
| &#351;
| s with [[Wikipedia:cedilla|cedilla]], alternately
|-
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|Ț}}
| {{Wikipedia:Template:unicode|ț}}
| &#538;
| &#539;
| t with [[Wikipedia:Comma (punctuation)|comma]], not widely supported
|-
| Ţ
| ţ
| &#354;
| &#355;
| t with [[Wikipedia:cedilla|cedilla]], alternately
|}

Are you romanian Abdi? (Or of romanian descent?) My old roommate is Romanian. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:06, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:Nope; no connection except that I went there two summers in a row with teams from my church. I tried to pick up a little language, but really had only an ornamental vocabulary (enough to say something in Romanian just so I'd be saying something in Romanian). I got myself into '''BIG''' trouble, evidently, when I tried to order a lemon Fanta (they have different flavors over there, many of which are awesome), and mispronounced the word for lemon. My hosts' eyes got ''really'' big and they turned bright red; when they regained the power of speech all they could manage was "Don't... ever... say that again...." Me: "Why, what? What did I say?" Them: "You... ''{pause}'' you don't want to know." To this day I don't know what word that sounded like!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:38, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::Lol! Well if you transliterate (is that a word) what you wrote perhaps I can ask my old roommate this weekend. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:41, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::The word was (and here I get a chance to use some of those characters above) "lămâjie"; that "a" with a circumflex, as I understood it, was supposed to be something like the "oo" of "wood" but closer to the "ou" of "would," a hint of the "oo" of "boot" creeping in. I way over-emphasized the latter, and then gave the final "e" too much of a Spanish "ey" sound—"luhmooyay." —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:50, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::LOL i'll see what I can do... I think I have enough to explain to him the word ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:54, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::So where your hosts like really mad or were they cracking up? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:58, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Either cracking up or kind of embarrassed or both, depending on their personality. (These were teenagers; the 15-yr-old guy thought it was the funniest event of the 21st century, though even he demurred to tell me what it meant; the shy girl looked like she thought it was funny and felt guilty for thinking so.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:03, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Not that this really relates to Romanian, although it does relate to language mix-ups and the current season: My favorite mistake in a German essay by an American student was "An Thanksgiving esse ich die Türkei", which means, "On Thanksgiving I eat Turkey" (i.e., the ''country'' of Turkey!) [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:05, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::LOL; I'm ''sure'' he tries. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:09, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::'''Edit Conflict''' Ohhh it's possibly slang then. My old roommate moved from there when he was 8 and i don't know if he knows all the slang. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:07, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

== A wery new electronic reply! ==

'''For Sir Viklas. Hi?'''

'''1. Prehaps! I'm've was to make football often times. Play? Know. Best football results twice again.'''

'''2. Every age I have seen out as a baby. I think I has the solution: width times height.'''

'''3. As a wery old, I can fathom the scene to be with me. Looking always as I ever did. It was not came's. He borrowed mine.'''

'''Okay, Viklas, one would certainly wish that would answer your questions. I do believe that we're on the same page. Unfortunately, yours has a large F on it.'''

'''— Sir Stark Dålig '''

==Marching Bands (not of Manhattan)==

I said "marching bands". Most schools near me have bands, but none I know have marching bands. I live in the same city as TBC. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 23:20, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:That's reassuring. And frankly, I'd rather they had a sit-down-an'-play-music band than a put-on-a-purple-thing-and-dance-around band. (Or better yet, how about Strings and Choral programs?) But seriously, I'd be very surprised if a city the size of Atlanta didn't have a fair number of HS marching bands. In fact, a cursory Googling reveals that [http://www.marching-band.net/news/ "The Official" Metro Atlanta Battle of the Bands] on Oct. 14, 2004 included bands from the following schools:
::Southwest DeKalb
::Morrow
::Redan
::Westlake
::Columbia
::Towers
::Mays
::Stephenson
::Martin Luther King
::Pebble Brook
::Cedar Grove
::Riverdale
::Lithonia
:However, cross-checking against the [http://www.atlanta.k12.ga.us/our_schools/schools_list/school_list1.html#high list of Atlanta public high schools] shows only Mays. What's the deal—the others are suburban schools with nice budgets? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:36, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
::Woah, there's a actully a real school called Riverdale high? In those old Archie comics he's in riverdale high school, for those of you who don't know. That's awsome! {{User:Bubsty/xmasig}} 00:41, 28 November 2005 (UTC) PS: For some reason my sig isn't working on this page. Or my new x-mas themed one. Whats happening?
:::Man. Now [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:ISlayedTheKerrek&diff=prev&oldid=205706 my] User page is haunted! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:52, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Weird, man. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Ok, problem fixed! Curse lifted :p. Binary Searches sure come in handy. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:28, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::That Stux is a computer genius man! (Let's do a dance for the computer genius man.) Btw (not in the tone of trauma that would continue the quote), what did you do? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:33, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Well it didn't involve shotguns that's for sure... If you check out this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&diff=prev&oldid=206819 diff] you'll see that there were a few template inclusions that were not closed, making everything be template text. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:17, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Dances for the computer genius man* doo-doo! doo-doo! Thank you stux! you rule! Doo-doo!{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 02:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Lovett and Westminster aren't on there because they're private schools. Fancy-shemancy. --[[User:Thatkidsam|Thatkidsam]] 21:11, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic request! ==

Greetings, Sir Viklas! '''Stop'''

I once again come to you asking for a favor! '''Stop'''

Might I trouble you for a photograph? '''Stop'''

Because you are being inducted into my honorary members gang! '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

'''PS: If possible, please make it a B/W photo. My telegramophone doesn't seem to handle the colored genre oh too well. Regards!'''

:I'd rather not use my real picture, for the same reason that I'd rather not use my real name. Also, I'm not actually Swedish (see [[#Sweden??|conversation above]]). But since I impersonated a Swedish prince on your talk page, I find it only fitting to use an [[Wikipedia:Image:Ducele_de_Halland.jpg|image of one]] to represent me. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:26, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::I bet you are a hit with the ladies Mr. Swedish Prince. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:50, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Woah, that picture totally looks like me! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:48, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

== GVBAoA ==

[[Image:Pewtervanburen.PNG|right|Pretend its golden, since I'm already pushing the one-personal-image rule.]]
Abdi, you've just earned yourself the '''GVBAoA''': 
'''G'''old 
'''V'''an 
'''B'''uren 
'''A'''award 
'''o'''f 
'''A'''wesomeness 
for helping me get off the ground when I was a newbie, and for being an all around nice person. There are only five in the entire world! - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Whoa!! What an honor! I have so many people to thank—I'd like to thank the academy; I'd like to thank The Cheat, for helping me to cheat—oh no, wait, I shouldn't say that... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:07, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
==The "Yet another award" award==
:Just kiddin. It's the '''thank you award'''. I present this thank you award to AbdiViklas, <s>Pretty weird person</s> Swedish Prince, for giving me an awesome trophy and for just being cool.
So here you go! Thanks!
:{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:49, 1 December 2005 (UTC) [[Image:Thankyouposter.PNG|thumb|Thank You Award givin to '''AbdiViklas''']]
::Presenting: the '''"No, thank ''you''!" award'''! For being an expert trophy-giver and encourager. People who affirm good stuff in others are themselves ''good stuff''. G-E-W-D.
::On an unrelated note: when I hear "Swedish Prince" I can't help imagining a [[Wikipedia:Prince (artist)|guy in a purple suit]] trying to look sultry but failing because his [[Wikipedia:Swedish Chef|eyebrows and mustache entirely obscure his face]]. [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/u/u2/141603.html Oh-oh-oh, the Swedish thing]... —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:16, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

== "wiki is gay"? ==

I'm sorry, I need to ask this question in order to see if this was just an inane dream or a reality - did Homestarrunner.com temporarily put up a message in their updates section (top-right corner of the main pages) saying that "The HRWiki is gay"? Thanks, this is killing me... {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 13:32, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:Interesting. No, we don't have any record of that happening. Who did you hear that one from?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:49, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

::TBC like us. We're cool. Most of us seem to like members of the opposite gender...so there. **sticks out tongue and gives a rasbery** {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:33, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that sounds something more like what Matt Wilson would do... He doesn't like his cartoon's wiki much, and has put things like "the wiki is creepy" in the credits occasionally, and even openly mocked them with a "Bonus Stage Wiki Guy" character in a recent toon. But the Brothers Chaps love us. They sent Joey sketches and stuff. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Who's Matt Wilson, and what cartoon does he make? He sounds like a not-so-nice person. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 19:39, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Matt Wilson writes the [[Wikipedia:Bonus Stage|Bonus Stage]] webtoons. He doesn't think much of his fans, I think, the wiki in particular. But the cartoons rock. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::Like I said, I think I was — literally — dreaming. I was up really late last night. {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:52, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::...which reminds me that I really spend too much time on the computer. Dreaming about the internet, wow... :/ {{User:Gafaddict/sig}} 19:53, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::LOL—yes, that is a warning sign. (I can just imagine Gafaddict doing couch mumbling: "Mbl... hammminbble... Edit conflict...".) Seriously, not only do TBC like the wiki, their record is notably free from the use of "gay" as a generic negative. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:36, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

== hey there AbdiViklas ==

How have you been, me i've be doing great, can i ask you some questions:

1.whats your favourite toon?

2.whats your favourite character?

3.how did you find Homestar runner?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:52, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
:Two of those are tough. (One's easy; the answer to #3 is on [[User:AbdiViklas#Homestar Runner: A History of an Addiction|my user page]].) For favorite 'toon, I'll have to limit it to sbemails to make it easier. In that case, the three that I ''enjoy'' the most are [[funny]], [[caffeine]], and [[your friends]]. I can't decide exactly what the order should be. I feel a little guiltily lowbrow for enjoying so much the ones that are just straight-up, slapstick, audiovisual gags; I ''appreciate'' the ones that are "clever" too, but I can't help just laughing at loud at these.
:For favorite character: also tough. Of course I like 'em all, for the appropriate reasons. (Strong Bad because he's... Strong Bad; Strong Sad for his good taste in literature, music, art, and intellectual culture; Homestar for his heartwarming naïveté; etc.) If I have to pick a major character, I'll go with The Cheat; I just bought one of the The Cheat t-shirts while they were on sale, and it's the first t-shirt I've bought. But if we're including minor characters, I think What's Her Face is pretty cool, as I once [[Talk:What's Her Face|observed]] in a characteristically wordy post. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::[[Talk:What%27s_Her_Face#From_the_Paper_.22Teen_Girl_Squad:_Class_Stratification_and_the_Role_of_Otherness_Within_A_Multi-teen_Peer_Group_Dynamic.22|''No wonder'']] you didn't post the entire link that discussion. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:::That and the fact that my comment was in response to some above that heading. (By the way, that heading was [[User:Thesmokingmonkey|Thesmokingmonkey]]'s doing; [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:What%27s_Her_Face&diff=151263&oldid=151256 originally] I hadn't started a new section.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:53, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh! I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:What%27s_Her_Face&diff=next&oldid=151263 see].--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:59, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

== Louisiana residents ==

AbdiViklas: I noticed that you reverted my edit on [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/weird dream#Louisiana lingerie?|this page]], which was a removal of the phrase "it could even be a jab at the relative intelligence of Louisiana residents." Let me make the case for my removal, and then I'll let you do with that information as you see fit.

I'm not aware of a stereotype that Louisiana residents are unintelligent. I ''am'' aware of a false stereotype that people living in the South are "slow." I'm assuming this is what you're referring to. In this case, I have little confidence that TBC would propogate this bias--they are from Georgia, about as South as you can get. (I also have difficulty seeing the connection between askew undergarments and intelligence, although one could argue this point.)

So, I removed your comment because I saw no need to perpetuate an insulting stereotype, especially one which residents of Georgia would be unlikely to defend. I trust that you'll take these comments as what they're intended to be--an explanation of my position--and not a personal attack. Best, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 15:52, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for your tact! I live in NC myself, so I certainly don't subscribe to the "dumb Southerner" concept (and am concerned about research showing employer bias against Southern accents!). I offerred the comment as illustration that the Easter egg could have meant something other Mardi Gras. In fact, my first thought when watching it, since I didn't make the Mardi Gras connection, was "Ha ha, that one couldn't even figure out how to put it on!" True, Louisiana isn't the butt of such jokes so much as Arkansas; it was jokes like the [http://www.joke-archives.com/youmaybe/arkansasreadingtest.html Arkansas reading test] that I was thinking of. (And I've heard that one ''from'' Southerners, in NC!) I'm not so sure TBC have qualms about perpetuating insulting stereotypes, either; I find it hard to watch Li'l Brudder in light of the physically impaired. (But yes, to their credit, they steer mostly clear of shock humor and using touchy subjects for cheap laughs.)
:As for removing the comment, I just reverted because I thought it was generally frowned upon to edit other people's comments in STUFF or talk pages. (I mean, I once deleted one when someone used a homosexual slur, but for anything less extreme I try to let it stand.) In light of your argument that acknowledging a harmful stereotype reinforces it, though, you can consider it ''my'' deletion!
:Thanks for responding in such a diplomatic and well-explained way! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:43, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, thanks for the cheerful reply; I probably made a mountain out of a molehill anyway (it's only a STUFF page, after all). I'll keep your comments in mind before editing arguments in the future. Have a great week, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 06:31, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

== greetings from Nikolce Kocovski (plus homeschooling) ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i've been doing fantastic. anyway onto business:
#do you know a user by the name of elvis?
#did you ever had a bulling problem in school?
#what have been up to recently?
yours truly [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:13, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
:Hey Nik!
:#I think I'd noticed [[User:Elvis|Elvis]] a couple of times on recent changes, but I hadn't looked up his user page until you asked. I wonder how his Elvis impersonation is? I hope it's better than the one on [http://www.ubu.com/outsiders/365/01-1.html this] page (see the entry for Jan. 8)!
:#I was [[Wikipedia:Homeschooling|homeschooled]] from 2nd grade through high school, so I certainly didn't have as many problems with bullying as most students, but even so I had some. Interestingly, one of the guys who used to tease me in really painful ways eventually (like within the same year) realized that he really was hurting me, apologized, and started being nicer. I think he wasn't really so much a true bully; he just thought he was being funny (while I didn't). These days, as a teacher, I'm more concerned with trying to prevent bullying for my students. It's really a serious problem; in the U.S. 75% report being bullied at some point, which means not only are they being denied a fundamental human right, but their education and development are being affected. I'm not sure how much I can do as a teacher to really change bullying, but I intend at least not to be unaware of it or (worse) ignore it.
:#Recently I've been doing a bunch of homework for finals in my university courses. Also I've been visiting a high school where I've been practicing conducting the orchestra in [[Wikipedia:Arcangelo Corelli|Corelli]]'s ''Christmas Concerto'', which has been a lot of fun. Conducting Baroque music has an effect on me sort of like "runner's high"; by the end of the rehearsal I'm a little giddy. Their concert is Tuesday. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:50, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

::Abdi, I had no idea you were once a homeschooler! So was I from K-12. I'm still very glad of it and quite appreciative of the sacrifices my dear mother made to teach me (especially since I was sometimes grotesquely lazy). Anyway, keep on tranglin'! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:59, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yup. From about halfway through 2nd grade, when my Mom pulled me out because I was having serious problems. I was ADD (not hyperactive) before it had really become well-known, and my teacher couldn't understand why I wasn't getting my worksheets ''{sneer expressing intense teacherly contempt for worksheets}'' done without supervision. Plus I was a real troublemaker, having problems "keeping my hands to myself" (less from agression than from a confusion about the fact that tripping others or swinging my lunchbox into them was not as funny for them as for me). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:14, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Not that it's much to add, but my ex was homeschooled. I think kids can benefit more through homeschooling. If I have kids, I'd like them to be homeschool as much as possible too. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:37, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Let me hasten to say that, as somebody about to be employed by it, I'm definitely not anti-public-education-system. The pros and cons of homeschooling versus public would have to do largely with what you felt the purpose of school was. If you adhered to a very traditional understanding of education in which "knowledge" meant a canon of factual information to be "uploaded" from written curricula and direct instruction into students' minds—in which "school" was primarily about the stuff it seems, on the surface, to be about (Reading 'n' Riting 'n' 'Rithmetic, etc.)—then yeah, that can be more efficiently accomplished through 1-on-1 instruction. But if you define "knowledge" as socially created, i.e. understanding is best achieved by experiencing something rather than hearing about it, and the transfer of experiential understandings through group work is not simply a side effect of schooling but an asset; if you think that what school is there to provide is not simply the official curriculum but the hidden curricula of social interaction and societal structures, and especially if you place a priority on exposing your child to other socioeconomic groups and cultures, then public school becomes desirable. (Although, contrary to popular opinion, homeschooling isn't typically insular; I had just as much contact with peers via co-opped classes and extracurricular clubs as most public schoolers. It would still be possible to achieve all the benefits above, though in my experience you might have to look outside the homeschooling community for meaningful interaction with other cultures.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:55, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

:I seem to be a bit late to this conversation, but I just figured I'd also meantion I was homeschooled from grade 2 onward as well. I switched when we moved way up country to Quesnel, and when we moved back south I never went back. I liked it, especially since it's so flexible. A bit ''too'' flexible sometimes too, it is somewhat dificult to stay on schedule. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:15, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

::I too, am late in responding, but I will anyway. Yes, I, too, occasionally found it too flexible. My mother can tell many a story of my dreadful procrastination. It still bites me occasionally, but I think I've mostly outgrown that bad habit now. (Of course, finding the Wiki has done nothing to improve my habits in that area...) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:20, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, hehe. Perhaps my earlier Wikiing is partly responsible for the remarkable intensity of my finals-period workload, which is why I haven't been on her much in a couple of weeks. Anydangways... I'm back! Missed y'all. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:49, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic request! ==

Greetings, Sir Viklas! '''Stop'''

I am updating my Honorary Gang Members electronic page and I need the following information. '''Stop'''

What rank would you consider yourself in my gang? '''Stop'''

For example, I am the '''"Brains"'''. '''Stop'''

The Sneak is '''"The Thief"'''. '''Stop'''

And The Strong Man is '''"The Brawn"'''. '''Stop'''

Please try not to use any of those ranks. '''Stop'''

Please respond on my electronic talk page. '''Stop'''

Dapperly yours,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

:Gee, I'm not sure, S.S. Bad. I think I need to rewatch Ocean's 11 for ideas. I'll get back to you, though. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:57, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

== The Official "You're Back!" Greetings ==

Hey, what can we say but that we missed you? I constantly kept thinking "Gee, where's Abdi and his amazing replies an' such?" I even tried to fill your niche whilst you were gone (check my contributions. There's at least one marked "An Abdi-worthy reply"), but to no avail. So now we won't be too bored, with so many other people leaving the wiki for the hols. Glad to have ya back, Abdi. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:<s>Oh? You were gone?</s> Er... I mean... glad to have you back too! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 18:22, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, I noticed you'd been a bit scarce around here. I figured it was school-related. I've been done for over a week now. I'm in Oregon visiting family and friends for Christmas, but I'm still definitely present on the Wiki. So don't worry, either you or DorianGray, I'll be there like shareware. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:42, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Glad to have you back, man! And I also rememebred you. See my reply over [[User_talk:Thunderbird_L17#Is_it_cardboard.2C_or_is_it_feedback.3F|TB's talk]]. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:48, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
You guys are so nice! So—yeah... guess that was kind of a false alarm, what with not visiting for another week. As you guessed, H.L., my absence up until about the 22nd was school-related, but absence since then was spending-Christmas-with-the-family-related. To be more specific, sitting-around-in-pajamas-eating-chocolate-and-drinking-hot-cider-and-egg-nog-alternately-for-three-days-straight-related. We punctuated the festive lethargy with trips to Narnia and King Kong, which were both just great, in their (very different) ways. Next up: Pride & Prejudice (yes, there ''are'' men who dig it), Harry Potter, The Producers, maybe some Memoirs of a Geisha, and all those things from a while ago like Crash or Zorro that I haven't seen yet. Whew! The worload!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:06, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== An electronic crisis! ==

Dear, Sir Viklas '''Stop'''

I apologize for being absent for a while. '''Stop'''

The Decemberween season keeps me busy even in the past! '''Stop'''

It is a delight to recollect with the gang during this glorious season! '''Stop'''

However our joyous gatherings may have to end shortly. '''Stop'''

For a complaint has been presented to my electronic talk page. '''Stop'''

Please refer to my talk page and view the complaint from Sir Dot Com. '''Stop'''

If you all agree to the idea he has proposed then the gang may live for another day! '''Stop'''

I thank you all in the most gracious manner and bid you a very merry Decemberween season! '''Stop'''

Sincerely,

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

:See [[User_talk:Sir_Strong_Bad#Personal_images]] for more info. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:44, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

== Merry christmas ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i've been doing great. i just wanted to say, merry christmas and a happy and safe holiday. thank you for your kind messages, you've helped me quite a bit. We friends right?

merry christmas [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:04, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
:Course we friends, foo! You're my only Macedonian Aussie friend; those are hard to come by! Seriously, I'm really happy that you've stayed involved in the wiki, and I admire the fact that you keep asking about things and improving your wiki skills. Thanks for saying hi for the holidays; it's a little late to return the Merry Christmas, but I hope you have a great New Year's! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:17, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== Happy new year ==

Happy new year and a enjoyable year for you, see you soon.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:47, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== Greetings from M.J ==
Uh, Hi, you may not remember me but I was a long term member of the hrwiki and then got locked out with the changing of sites and re-registering and the no-annonymous-users-can-edit situation.
''{takes breath}'' anyhoo I'm back and I wanted to thank you for your support, I was going to give up on the hrwiki and never return until I got your message on my livejournal account a while back urging me to keep battling on. So Thanks! I'll show myself out -[[User:MJ|MJ]]

== thanks, abdi ==
thanks for reducing the exc. points on my guestbook. ciberdude also seems to have accidently added four 4's instead of three on his signature. that man does not know what he is doing. just like you did to me, i hope we can somehow teach him to be more familiar with the wiki. thanks to you, i'm joining the welcoming commitee. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 18:53, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::''{note: This edit and its reply were made after the entries below them}'' for the record i '''do''' know what i am doing. i used to be a nerd, fixing trolling, reverting stupid ideas, but then when i tried to add to the [[www.hrwiki.org|wiki]] i kept getting reverted on all the references and goofs. so i thought that the wiki must not like too streached references and i started deleting stuff but that went down hill when thise edit got reverted so i realized that all of you are exactally the kind of person [[Strong Bad|SB]] would hate. so i decided to troll and troll and troll and troll and troll [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 21:57, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Wow. Um, I assume you changed your mind again. But yeah, the experience you mentioned (getting reverted at first) is so common I put some stuff into my [[User:AbdiViklas/welcome|welcome template]] about it. It's tough, because everybody makes an attachment, however little, between their edits and themselves; praise for their edits is praise for them and an abrupt and ignominious death for their edits is felt personally too. And yeah, you woudn't be the first who's responded to that injury by trolling. But as I'm sure you've experienced, all that reverting at the beginning is really just the result of the wiki learning curve; like people make edits that don't match the standards or that say something that was already said elsewhere. So anyway, I hope you're finding it a little less frustrating now being "the kind of person SB would hate." (Actually, seriously, I don't think he would; he's a pretty big grammar nerd himself. But yes, the kind of personality that makes the wiki work is closer to Adrian Monk's [[Wikipedia:Obsessive-compulsive disorder|OCD]] than Strong Bad's "whatever"-ness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:12, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:''{responding to Seriously again}'' Don't mention it. And thanks for your response patching things up with Ciberdude (though I took the liberty of moving it from ''User talk:Ciberdude'' to [[User talk:Ciberdude444]]). There are some unfortunate examples on the wiki of users who are still pissed at each other and seriously make life rough; there are also ''daily'' examples of people who might have reason to be offended with each other shrugging it off and being generous about it. I encourage you to keep doing that—and not just making it so relationships with other users are "okay," but actually actively trying to improve them (i.e. calling them on it when they make a really good edit, or just making them feel good in whatever way you can). It's not just some Hallmark-Care-Bears conspiracy to make everybody feel all warm and fuzzy; it actually makes for a better website (and ultimately better people in real life!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:09, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::P.S. In other words, easy with comments like "doesn't know what he is doing." Yeah, literally, we're all learning more about how this wiki thing works every day (like just a minute ago I learned how to resize an image!). But be careful not to be insulting. (Also, I don't think there's any clue about Ciberdude's gender; assuming all online types are male can be dangerous!) Unrelatedly, cool that you're joining the welcoming committee! It's a great feeling when you get to welcome someone (though you have to have a fast trigger finger around here; the past few days I've seen, like, six new users get welcomed by other folks before I had a chance!). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:16, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

nice. real nice. "quick! the carebears are coming! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!"
anyway, i don't even know your gender, so i can't say anyting. i'm pretty sure thunderbird is a guy, but i'll have to look into it. i'm guessing......your......a......guy? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 19:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yup. (Come to think of it, I guess my user page, while it tells ''everything'' else about me, doesn't mention that!) I was thinking of users like [[User:Homestar Coder|Homestar Coder]] who often get assumed to be guys. (And Soylent Green is a hilarious movie.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:30, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

true dat. in fact, double true.
if you know what snl skit double true is from, you get a gold star. hint: it's new. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Ironically, although I ''know'' about the Chroni(what?)cles of Narnia, I haven't seen it yet. (The rap, I mean; the movie was great.) I'm-a go see if I can hunt down a copy hosted by a site my filter won't block. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:43, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
youtube.com
:Yeah, that didn't work for me, but I found one that did. Dang; now I want a cupcake! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:33, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
two. no six. no twelve. BAKER'S DOZEN!!

dude, is that not the funniest thing you have ever seen? i watch it all the time. in fact, i'ma go watch it right now. see ya. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 22:21, 2 January 2006 (UTC) 22:20, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, that was up there with the Cowbell. I think the NY Times (or was it Slate?) was right; what makes it funny isn't just that their whiteness but the extraordinary harmlessness and yuppiness of their subject matter. I'm reminded of Weird Al's ''It's All About the Pentiums''. ("I'm the king of the spreadsheets / got 'em printed out all over my bedsheets...") —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:38, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

due, seriously. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 22:44, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

==ciberdude444's at it ==
abdi, ciberdude444 has once again reverted my comment on the guestbook. i said it was okay, but i didn't think it would be like this. i don't want to edit something on his userpage, and i doubt he will listen to me. i will try anyway, but i need your help.
:Meh; it doesn't seem to me like it matters a ton either way. The question is who gets "custody"; whether you can't edit because it's his userpage or he can't edit because it's your comment. There's no official rule about it, but it seems like nobody should have to live with stuff on their userpage they don't want, or with their edits misrepresented. I think I'll revert it to your signature alone, which shouldn't be a problem for anybody. But seriously, in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it's a really big deal. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:57, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

thanks, ab! abdi! abdivi! abdiviklas! yeah, i just don't like that stuff. it's a tender relationship, we don't him to put stuff that i would assume offensive and start another argument. i just want to take things carefully. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 23:02, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
::who needs grammar lessons now? "we don't him to put stuff " whats that suposed to mean?
:Cool. Also, with regard to the age thing, maybe the best thing you could do would be to take your real name off your page. Zillions of people could be your age, but you'd be ''amazed'' how easy it is to trace a person from their name. (In my city, at least, if you've ever voted, the info on how you're registered and your voting history, plus address, is right there on the web for free!) I've got my age on mine but don't give out my name or anything else very personally identifiable. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:07, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== what do you like mostly about homestar runner? ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been i've been doing great, the question i'm asking you is the title. see you around.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 10:07, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Man... actually, that's a really tough one to answer. Why ''do'' we—or I, at least—like H*R so much? I think it has a lot to do with the form it's in—relatively short cartoons updated roughly weekly for free, and all accessible at any time. I mean, let's face it; it has nowhere near the same number of laughs-per-week as, say, Simpsons or Futurama, but if H*R were on TV it would mean it would come in 30' chunks instead of 6' max, and (Tivo aside) you could only get to it at specific times, one 'toon at a time. The best time of my life was when I was watching the Strong Bad Emails for the first time, and was spending days at a time just watching them back-to-back chronologically; I think they're actually funnier that way.
:But I haven't ''really'' answered your question. What ''element'' of H*R do I like best? Well... I dunno. Do I like the randomness of its humor, or its relevence (via the "pop culture, mumble grumble" references)? Do I appreciate more its PG rating or the frequent ways it pushes that envelope (which, frankly, are funnier because they're so unexpected than the reliable shock-humor of Family Guy and related shows)? Do I enjoy Strong Bad's wittiness or Homestar's naivete (or Marzipan's activism or Strong Sad's misunderstood artistic sensibilities)? Can't say. I guess it's '''D''', all of the above!! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

i kinda agree with you, the reason i like homestar runner the best on the internet, for its humour, the way it uses pop culture like simpsons a bit, and the characters. but the reason why i like it is:'

because it acts like a cartoon. i'll explain:

you see most of the things you find on the internet are either horrible violent with lots of swearing or lots of adult content. but homestar runner is nothing like it. Do you understand?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 03:13, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

ps: i do aslo enjoy sb emails long or short toons, the characters etc.

==welcoming==
can i join the welcoming comitte? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 17:30, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Sure! Check out [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee]]; it's got all the details on how to do so. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 17:33, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey, that kind of proves my point. ==

''"sorry, rv; "hypocrisy" seems to me to have inaccurate connotations. He doesn't *give* a darn, really, whether "jillion" is a real word."''

The fact that he doesn't give a darn is kind of the point. He holds everyone else up to quite lofty standards of perfect spelling and grammar but doesn't do the same. That is the definition of hypocrisy and being a hypocrit. "Do as I say and not as I do." -{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 05:35, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I see what you mean. But see my [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Strong_Bad&curid=818&diff=230061&oldid=230056&rcid=174751 reply just now] on [[Talk:Strong Bad]], disagreeing somewhat with that definition of hypocrisy. The definition you offer is certainly a common one, but I feel it's a misuse of the word. "Inconsistency" might be better. I also reverted partly because I just felt like, by itself, it wasn't that remarkable; now, if a page gets made, that would be a reason to have a remark saying something like "this is another instance of '''Strong Bad's Usage Errors'''" or the like. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:44, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

== An electronic GIF! ==

Dear Sir Viklas, '''Stop'''

Please view the brand new symbol-ma-drawin' I have crafted on my electronic user page! '''Stop'''

Has fun! '''Stop'''

{{User:Sir Strong Bad/sig}}

== Manual of Style ==

Actually, I ''just'' added that rule (and it was because I saw the stripèd discussion, though I'd been considering it for a while), but it actually works in your favor if you count the fact that (a sentence prior) Strong Bad actually ''did'' write "striped" while pronouncing it "stripèd". Thus, this one can go either way. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:57, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I understand the Appetizers/Appe-teasers example. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, that was actually a bad example (as "Appe'teasers'" is written in the 'toon in question in an Easter Egg, [[Biz Cas Fri 1]].) But, if we were to assume that nothing was written, then you'd still want to write "Appe-teasers" because that's what was said. There are better examples out there, though... most of what Coach Z says, for instance. That was just the first thing to cross my mind. This has been the unofficial consensus for a while, actually; I was just trying to make it official. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:05, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Cool. We've got a lot of back-revising to do on it, then. But maybe before we do, at least with regard to the aspiration-of-"-ed"-suffixes issue, see my hesitance I just added to [[Talk:highschool#Accent on striped]]. I agree that using the diacritical is preferable to "stripe-ed", but—I can't get over it's funnylookiness. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:09, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::One more question: What's an example of a mispronounced word where the phonetic spelling is identical to the standard spelling? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:13, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Just thinking hypothetically, maybe something like pronouncing "bomb" with the final ''b'' aspirated, but not enough to transcribe as "bombuh". You'd have to add a note. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 22:17, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::"Colonel" is a good one. Currently, it's written as such on every relevant page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Ah, now I understand. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:31, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Screenshot ==

Sorry. You must be talking about my first upload. Right after I saw it had no copright notice, I went to fix it. I did so for the other 3. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}}01:29, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

:Also, will you check to see if this is ok? [[Characters#Other_Alternates]]. The teen versions. Thanks. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}}01:37, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::Looks okay to me! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:16, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== Edit conflicts ==

Hey there, Dr. AdbiViklas. I'm totally cool with you giving 24.239.109.228 [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:24.239.109.228&diff=prev&oldid=239289 extra instruction], but I just want to point out that noting an edit conflict is completely unnecessary in this case. In fact, most times, noting edit conflicts are unnecessary. Crapfully crap, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:08, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right; I know that the general rule is "if your comment would still make sense in the flow of the page don't note it"; in this case I did note it because otherwise there wasn't much explanation for my commenting at all! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:11, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it looks unprofessional to have a note up there. You can easily reword the message and have it flow. I would agree with it. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::That makes sense; I did so and also added a bit about the turn he took. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Heh. You're awesome. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::LOL; on the wiki I seem to be permanently in schoolteacher mode, in which first-time vandals are suspendees and potential dropouts. (The alarming thing that just kind of clicked for me recently is that these users ''are'' in fact real people, and their interaction with this wiki is a window of opportunity to teach them about how to interract with others. (Yes yes, and about H*R!) That's why, although the squabbles and typos of middle-school users take up time and energy, I'm glad we have them. The whole Seriously/Totebag/Ciberdude deal is a chance for three guys either to learn that nothing's fair, no one in authority cares, and name-calling and petty revenge get results, or to learn that co-operation and community are more than smarmy buzzwords and are actually realisable and effective. Then, realizing that two of those go to the same school: what could be the exponential impact of two kids who actually believed that?) So even though chances are good he'll never come back, and even though it was kind of silly of me to do so, that's why I left that for him; I daydream that maybe he's at a formative moment in his life and the wiki could tip the balance between a life of crime and a career as a school counselor or a Doctor Without Borders or some such. It sounds cheesy, but... maybe it's not too great an exaggeration! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:41, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::I just read all of that. I should print that out and save it for posterity. ''print_of_it.exe''. I don't find it silly. That's the perfect way you should treat someone like that. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:45, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::By the way, I added another note on the the IP user talk page noting that the article talk page (rather than STUFF) would be the best place to discuss the change he wanted to make. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:48, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::P.S. I was edit-conflicted on this edit. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::::::::LOL; thanks both of you. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:51, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Incidentally, what do you mean "three guys [are] either to learn that nothing's fair [and that] no one in authority cares"? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:54, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I don't think anyone's going to learn that around here! I just mean that's the burden of responsibility on us. If this place had the atmosphere that a lot of fansites and online communities in general did... well, events wouldn't have played out the way they ''did''. I leave it to your imaginations to conjecture what would have happened (hint: the ''Lord of the Flies'' allusion might not be too far off!). And from a teacher point of view, that ''is'' a lesson kids get in school far too often ("nobody cares", plus they have no agency so why bother). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:59, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I ask because my goal as an admin is to always be fair. I sincerely hope that I am not playing favorites with any one of them, instead treating them based on their actions and by the way they respond to instructions. So long as they stop squabbling, I'm willing to leave the past in the past, but if they insist on bickering, a certain train is going to be dropped. I like to think I have a good bit of patience, but I admit it's wearing quite thin. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:05, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::It's dot com, you ''define'' fair administration!! Yeah, of course any of the involved parties would bring that accusation (which is explained partly by adolescent developmental psych, a time when you're trying to figure out exactly what your standing in relation to others is), but I'm a witness on this one at least. As far as patience goes, that's one thing that makes me think I might make a good teacher, since I seem to have an unusually high frustration threshhold. But even I've reached it a couple of times just in the past few months of rehearsing unruly orchestras! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== im back! ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how have you been, i;ve been doing great becasue i was on a 10 day holiday to the gold coast with my family. on the 5/1/06. fantastic. so whats been going on, with you?

Ps:WHats happended to bubsty, when i checked bubsty's user page, all that was written was bye wiki, whats happened?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 03:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right—very sad: evidently he's had to quit the wiki for some reason. See his talk page for many expressions of grief at his leaving, several quite eloquent. (I know you ''have'' seen it because you signed it, but I mean higher up.)
:I'm glad you had a nice vacation; it's summer for you, right? I'm in North Carolina, which is kinda southern US, and we've been having a really warm January anyway; last week it was 68° (Farenheit). But tonight it's back below freezing. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

== looking for an explanation ==

Why did you add the definition for decoupage to "Death Metal"'s "Explanation" section? I realize it starts with "de" and has something to do with glue. Those do not seem like enough to bother including the word in the email's wiki page.
--[[User:209.157.156.126|209.157.156.126]] 10:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:Right; not just those, but because of Taranchula's video (some helpful anonymous IP has just now added the lyrics), ''The Decoupage''. Yeah, if it weren't for that, it would be a seriously unnecessary fact! (By the way, speaking of helpful anonymous IPs, your interest in the accuracy of the article and the fact that you knew and bothered to sign your post are a little unusual in anonymous users; have you ever considered [[HRWiki:Why create an account?|becoming a member]]? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:32, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey sir ==

Thanks about the poster thing. [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry]] 03:08, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

== Fractured discussion ==

Hey there. One of the problems with such a multifaceted discussion is that the replies can get a little (or a lot) scattered. So I just wanted to let you know that I have replied to no fewer times than to [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Other|your proposal]], [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Move_existing_ones_to_subpages_and_lock_them|your question here]], [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Comments|your comments here]], and also [[HRWiki:Guestbooks#Oppose|that big long thread]] with Darth Katana X. I would read them all first before replying, as they kinda form one big thought. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:39, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

==''thanks, abdi'' 2: Son of ''[[#thanks, abdi|thanks, abdi]]''==
well, thanks to you and dot com, i now have a username. thanks a lot, i will join a lot of commitees. [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 13:16, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

by the way, when i was an anonymous user, you said something about how if i am who you think i am, it's important that i take the plunge. i have a brother who is a wiki user, but i am on my own laptop, so it's not like you could match the ip addresses if you thought i was him. so........just who do you think i am? [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]] 13:40, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:The combination of the fact that you commented on [[User:Seriously|Seriously]]'s talk page and mentioned that someone you knew got blocked suggested that you might know either him or a couple of other users that he had some interaction with. Plus you now say on your user page that he's your brother. If I'm not mistaken, your brother's blockedness is up today or tomorrow; a couple of edits you made to his user page got reverted because we don't really let people (even siblings) edit each others' pages, but he can do them himself then. If he doesn't, bug him to; we have quite a few users who started out getting temporarily blocked and ended up as major contributors (I seem to remember there's some sysop with that story, though I can't find who it is at the moment). I hope your brother and another user who got blocked at the same time do exactly that. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:58, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::[[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] is the name you're looking for. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Thanks; that was my hunch, but I couldn't verify it. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:35, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
::::yeah, now i am unblocked, and i feel great about it. by the way, no, i didn't tell him to do those edits (although he said i did) and he really won't be on that much anymore. this website is too cool for him. plus, he said he just wanted to try it out, y'know? {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

wait, why did you change the headline to a familiar joke that's on the tip of my tongue? well, you are a teacher, and i am a caps-hating 11 year old with poor grammar (but good spelling!), so you would know it better than i would. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&diff=246006&oldid=246003 LOL]! Perhaps this might be a sign of archival necessities. Even I [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Stux&diff=prev&oldid=218187 have been asked] to archive... and you're at 70! :) Welcome to the wiki [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] and [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]]!! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]]: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Yeltensic&diff=246355&oldid=246350 seriously].--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

thank you, stux, but i have been on the wiki since nov. 8. and thank you for the backup on that comment. i just think it should be reworded. also, sice the guestbooks are going soon, please sign mine. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 18:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

oh, wait. you already have. thanks. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 18:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Lol. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::yeah, if ever evidence that i was an idiot, that was it. ah well. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Glad you're back, Will; I meant what I said above (and mean it for Ciberdude as well). In answer to your question, I realized that the section heading your brother used originally was the exact same you had used higher on the page, and it confused the browser when it tried to jump to the section. I'm not sure what exactly I'm referencing with the "Son of", other than the stereotypical 30s-monster-movie sequels that get referenced all the time (''Son of Dracula! · Bride of Frankenstein! · Second Cousin Once Removed of Wolfman!''). At least I didn't say ''Electric Boogaloo''. And as for archiving, Stux, despite the recent caving of a prominent holdout, I'm being obstinate. I don't see a particular need to yet, especially since I just recently discovered that ctrl+home and ctrl+end jump to the top or bottom of a page instantly! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:I hate to break it to you (ok not really) but lemme tell you a little secret... for web pages, Home and End works just as well! ;) Well, the ball is rollin', I'm sure that circumstances (and pressures ;)) will chage... :)--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== (Not so) random encouragement for your recent efforts ==

<nowiki>:</nowiki>) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:32, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks! I've been incredibly busy (like to the point of consecutive all-nighters) for the past week, so I just dropped in and don't know how much I might have missed (though I'm piecing together a picture that involves iPods, sockpuppets, Animal Crossing, and the like. I'm probably going to be similarly sparse for the next week; I don't count on sleeping tonight, anyway! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:38, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Hey there, hope all's going well for you. We miss you when you're not around. I should probably be pulling all-nighters too (and not all-nighter troll fights, like I did Saturday), with the work I have to do. But I'm not. Anyway, keep on tranglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Um, I have 8 words for you: Wow! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Ok now that I've made my obligatory short random message, on to the real random message. But i don't have much time to talk so I'll try to be briefer than brief. By um, our standards :). Excellent points on the [[HRWiki_talk:Guestbooks]] article! I like the ideas, though right now I don't have the time nor the imagination to be that creative. Still, I like it. I brings hope in a otherwise tense and (not) hopeless situation. I brings an alternative to a post guestbook-alyptic world. It's the feel good movie -- er I'm getting carried away. But seriously, what I'm trying to say is this: to me there seemed there was much tension that arose with the guestbook situation (and certain events didn't help things), more so than with most issues. Your options and optimism, I think, will help ease those fears and tensions in some of our users. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:02, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==We Are The Wiki==
''This is an expansion of an idea from [[HRWiki talk:Guestbooks#Guestbook replacement activities]].'' 
     The recent [[HRWiki:Guestbooks|Guestbooks]] phenomenon brought into discussion a tension that has been around for a while. Specifically, many who supported guestbooks felt that HRWiki is, or should be, a place for H*R fans to interact. Others pointed out that it is a "knowledge base," and that its activity should be limited to the upkeep of its content, and pure socializing done in other venues such as the forum. "I'm ... hesitant" about my own position on this issue, and the wording I used in the "Guestbook replacement" suggestions reflects a hope that the wiki's fun (maybe even frivolous?) functions and its documentary function are not mutually exclusive. 
     The fact is, though, some of my suggestions (based on current user practices) toy with a fine and elusive line in [[HRWiki:User space]]. My suggestions included saying hi to other users on their talk pages and featuring content on your user page that provokes responses on your talk page. Now a few quotes from [[HRWiki:User space]] include (emphasis added):
*''Your user talk page is for other users to discuss matters ''related to the Wiki'' with you.
*''Generally, you should avoid any ''substantial content that is unrelated to the Homestar Runner Wiki''. Examples include ... ''discussion not related to the Homestar Runner Wiki'' ... excessive personal information ... opinion pieces not related to the Homestar Runner Wiki or other non-encyclopedic material...''
     By a strict reading, this could be taken to mean that ''any'' discussion on a Talk page or a User talk page that is not ''directly'' related to a matter of editing is in noncompliance. I'm not going to take the trouble or embarrassment of linking to examples, but I suspect every user here has at some time been party to a discussion that had nothing immediately to do with H*R or the wiki. However, there are several (intentionally) vaguely-defined phrases in there: Just how much is "substantial content"? How much personal information is "excessive"? How much opinion constitutes a "piece"? But the Great Loophole is this line:
*''Particularly, community-building activities that are not strictly "on topic," may be allowed, especially when initiated by committed users with good edit histories. At their best, such activities help us to build the community, and this helps to build the knowledge-base.''
     This, dear friends, is the text of my sermon today. This line expresses—guardedly and with many qualifications—a recognition that certain "not strictly 'on-topic'" behaviors may in fact be not simply permissible but indirectly beneficial. It does not go on to specify what these behaviors "at their worst" might do, but recent events certainly helped us imagine. So it is with great care, my brothers, yea with gravity and trepidation, that we invoke this clause. It is not intended to justify chaos, or to effortlessly nullify the injunctions above it. Yet invoke it I must, and I do so with sobriety and deference. 
     'Nuff preacher-talk. So: what is this clause? Is it a contradiction? Is it a weak concession to the fact that we all chat a little here and there, and it doesn't seem to be killing us? What about that last sentence: "At their best, such activities help us build the community, and this helps us to build the knowledge-base." Do you really believe that, or is it just a pleasant fiction softened by euphemism? What ''is'' this "community" of which we speak so often? 
     (Now, a disclaimer: I don't know a lot about "Wiki" philosophy overall; I've never been involved with Wikipedia and know little of its ideological history. When I say "wiki" I'm speaking specifically of HRWiki, and what I've observed here.) But I'll tell you what I've seen: I've seen people on the Eastern seaboard, the Pacific coast, Texas, Canada, Israel, Australia-by-way-of-Macedonia, and everywhere in between talking, collaborating, and knowing each other's "names" and personalities, not just demographics. I've seen users genuinely broken up over the "departure" of people they've never seen or shaken hands with—which would be odd behavior for a group of cyber-librarians who just happen to be simultaneously working on a database. I've seen users respond to vandal attacks, some of them massive, not with a language of personal injury ("Oh no, what'll ''I'' do?" "Look at all this I've got to revert!"), but calling each other by name and encouraging each other. I've seen users take great pride in their personal contributions, presumably experiencing the joy of accomplishment and becoming incrementally better defended against the paralysis of percieved incompetence. I've seen users engage in heated—often turbulent—disagreement, and learn, albeit by trial and error, how to do so in a civil, productive, and charitable way. 
     Let's step back for a sec. What are you doing? You're sitting on your butt looking at a computer—which is displaying an "opinion piece" about a wiki—which attempts to chronicle and analyze every minutest detail of an internet cartoon—which itself consists of some eccentric and anatomically deficient characters saying a few minutes of funny things on roughly a weekly basis. Is this feeding children in Africa? Is it curing cancer? Is it impacting the policies and actions of national or local governments? Well—hold that thought. My point is: '''what is the ultimate purpose of this wiki?''' Yes, recent discussions have precipitated a restatement that its primary purpose, it's ''raison d'etre'', is to be a knowledge base, documenting H*R cartoons. But its primary purpose does not disallow secondary purposes, and I see its potential for teaching "community" to be a compelling one. If, through this wiki, even one person learns how to work collaboratively with others, to encourage each other's efforts, and above all how do disagree with someone and debate that opinion in an open, respectful, and supportive way, ''and'' if these lessons transfer over into real life, then something much greater has happened than simply transcribing a web cartoon. And it ''could'' very well impact the society and governance of neighborhoods and nations. 
     This brings me to the title of this section. '''We are the wiki.''' The wiki is binary data on a server, yes, but without us it would be static. Furthermore, because [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sick_Day&diff=157523&oldid=157522 the wiki is a liquid], it assumes the contour of its container, the users. If we were replaced with a different set of users, the wiki would become fundamentally different. A gardening model is not adequate for the wiki—we are not groundskeepers, who come in and work on "the wiki"; we ''are'' an integral and vital part of it. If there is an analogy, maybe we're like a good sports play—ahem, sports ''team'': the members of a baseball team all work together on something (the game), but if they all got up and left "the game" wouldn't remain (just a stadium full of very surprised fans). You see what this means? Nearly every user here expresses some desire to "help the wiki," "maintain the wiki," or otherwise contribute to its upkeep and improvement. The most immediate way to do that, certainly, is to edit mainspace articles. But tending to relationships with other users—cultivating them, pruning them, mediating them, and healing them—is every bit as much a way of improving the wiki. 
     On the flipside, that's what's so terrible about [[HRWiki talk:Glossary#Miss Nomer 2005|true trolls]] (as opposed to vandals): Just as vandals attack the digital, visible fabric of the wiki, trolls attack the relational, social fabric of it. A vandal simply aspires to scrawl a few lines of graffiti; a troll aspires to tear ''us'' apart. Which is more insidiously devestating? A vandal can be reverted and blocked in seconds. The damage of trolling, if accomplished, is far harder to repair. So if you consider yourself a "troll fighter," take a deep breath and a look in the mirror before replying hastily to another user: when you damage a relationship, ''you'' are the troll. And keep in mind that, unlike the many defensive tools we have against vandalism, our ''only'' defense against this vulnerability is the intentional, calculating, untiring maintenance of our "community" ties—in other words, working specifically on "being friends." 
     This is where the last phrase of that Loophole gets its justification. "Building the community" does ''indeed'' "help to build the knowledge base." It defends and perpetuates it, and gives it a greater excuse for existing than the Flash-based antics of an Internet phenomenon. And for that reason there ''is'' an excuse for User talk content to go beyond "What's up with this edit?" and "Please delete a personal pic." ''As long as'' the activity is kept within reasonable bounds, and does ''not'' in fact impede the wiki's primary functioning—and ''if'' it is ''meaningfully effective'' at building relatinships—then it is not simply irrelevent frivolity; it is in fact... the Work of the Wiki. 
     Whew! That was long! If you just read all that, thanks and I'm sorry! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:25, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:Don't be sorry. What you wrote was true to the deepest. '''We''' are the Wiki. You, me, the gnomes, the admins, the fanstuffers, the forumers, the developers, those who left, those who lurk, those that always complain that they spend too much time on "Dumb animal characters". '''We''' are all part of this, and I know it sounds like a cliché, but we must continue joining together for a common couse. It's hard to write as long as you do, but I just want to say: '''Thank you HRWiki.''' {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:06, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
::You just said exactly what I've wanted to say ever since I joined this Wiki. At the risk of sounding like a complete nerd, I truly have to say that the friendships I've built on this Wiki are better than some of my friendships in real life. What I love about this Wiki is that you feel this sense of community that is hard to feel on other HUGE wikis like Wikipedia. Everyone knows each other, everyone participates in discussions, and everyone here has one thing in common: Homestar Runner. Thank you AbdiViklas. Thank you to everyone working on this Wiki, for you are not really working on the Wiki, '''You are the Wiki itself.''' {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:27, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

== Personal Images ==

I draw you attention to [[User_talk:Sir_Strong_Bad#Personal_images|Sir Strong Bad's]] talk page where you offered to take one of Sir Strong Bad's personal images for your own so that he will be in compliance with the image policy. Please choose one of the following images and claim as your own if you have an image slot to spair by inserting your name into the <nowiki>{{personal-image|Sir Strong Bad}}</nowiki> tag:
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/d/d0/SSB%27s_Gang.gif SSB's_Gang.gif] 
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/b/be/SBadiaRula_B%26W.jpg SBadiaRula_B%26W.jpg] 
[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/2/24/B_and_W_Swedish_Fish.jpg B and W Swedish Fish.jpg] 
<s>[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/0/0c/Macedonia_B_and_W.jpg Macedonia B and W.jpg] </s>
[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Homsar_Old_timey_bandit.PNG Homsar Old timey bandit.PNG] 
<s>[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/9/91/homestaryodlebw.PNG homestaryodlebw.PNG] </s>

I show that you have 2 empty personal image slot. Thanks, have a great day. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}}
:I took the fish. I would have sooner, but I wasn't sure whether it required anything more elaborate than changing the template. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Kaption Kontest ==
Yeah, could I follow the rules by making it on my [[User:Seriously/old captions|Archive]]? Also, I strongly disagree with this rule when it's only a bit of fun. There is no con to people editing my userpage; unless it's the ever-hated guestbook signing or vandalizing (obviously.) I would like you to consider letting me keep it as it presents no immediate harm. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:47, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

:By the way, why havn't you been on? I miss seeing comments with 100 lines just to fit your ideas. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 20:54, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
::LOL; because the 100 lines have been going into school-related activities. I was far more active in December and January since I had less work. Expect higher involvement in March, declining in April, and nearly non in mid-May, with a sudden spike around the last week. And a 60% chance of rain.
::Now then, about the captions: I guess it's not a hard-'n'-fast ''rule'' per se at the moment, and it's certainly not a matter of ''making'' you move it. What we ''do'' have in the way of suggestions on the topic: It's dot com says in [[HRWiki talk:Guestbooks#Guestbook replacement activities|HRWiki talk:Guestbooks]], "Please note that you should not encourage people to edit your user page, for any reason." [[HRWiki:User space#What can I have on my user page?|HRWiki:User space]] says "In general, avoid editing another's user page without their permission, but feel free to correct any linking errors that might confuse readers. However, some users are fine with their user pages being edited, and may even have a note to that effect." This clearly means that non-owner edits aren't ''completely'' forbidden. It also hints at a possibility that the owner could encourage the edits of others, though from context and when it was written, I imagine it means an invitation to feel free to correct mistakes or improve content (for instance, [[User:FireLily]], [[User:Ppk01#Japanese_Character_Names]], or [[User:Thechamp#Links_and_stuff]]). That would probably result in much less frequent non-owner editing than a recurring feature. So yeah, I'm certainly not "making" you move it, but I still suggest it. Kinda using your argument against you, what would it hurt? Well... I suppose even if you kept the image and an "edit!" link on your user pages, the captions wouldn't be with it. I was thinking there might be some way, via [[Wikipedia:Transclusion|Transclusion]], to keep the content elsewhere, have users edit elsewhere, but have it show up on your user page. I did a test in the sandbox that seemed like that didn't work, but I haven't given up on it yet. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Update: I wasn't able to get transclusion to work in my brief test. I tried putting <nowiki>{{User:AbdiViklas/welcome}}</nowiki> here, as my only subpage, and as expected it appeared. Then I went and edited the original welcome subpage and saved, but the edit didn't appear here on refresh. I'll have to submit this to those who know more about how this place works. '''Attention: 'elp!''' Is live transclusion (including updates being reflected) only for the Template namespace? Or did my test not work because the changes take more than a few seconds to propagate? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:12, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:Regarding transclusion: give it another go, but this time instead of a browser refresh, give the page an [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:AbdiViklas&action=purge action=purge]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:34, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::Cool. But I was just now trying it with [[HRFWiki:Sandbox]], since It's dot com asked that the contest be moved to Fanstuff, and I guess transclusion doesn't work interwiki? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:43, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Nope, no interwiki transclusion. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 08:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Ach wohl. (For Heimstern's benefit!) So I guess, unless It's dot com's cool with it being on a subpage, the best you can do is put the image and a link on your user page. You could of course update it manually when someone adds to it over at Fanstuff. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:59, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== guess what happened to me. ==

Hey there abdiviklas, how are you, i've been doing great. About the heading, check out my talk page and user page, and you'll see what happened. Have you every got a similar award?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Wow; congratulations! I've got a couple of awards [[#GVBAoA|higher up on this page]], but not pizza-based! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 01:21, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:Pizza's always better. It also feels good that this trophy is actually taken seriously, as it seems it means much more to users than I thought it did. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 15:23, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Google fight? ==

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f343/TheKookyOne/googlefight_kooky_abdi.png 
Well, you've beat me again, comrade! ''(Though, I must wonder, what 22,500 people would want to look us up so bad?)'' =P I'm just stopping by to say hi, considering it's been a while since I was around here. How've things been? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Egad—and just browsing the first few pages of those results ''are'' all posts of mine on here (plus a few on various tech support boards)! Is it really possible that I've made over <s>11,000</s> eleventyhundred edits? I'm not sure whether that's an accomplishment or a monumental squandering of time! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:52, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::I'd lean towards "monumental squandering". Except I'm only 300 results behind you. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::: Yeah, well, I beat both of you ''combined''! 'Course it helps that my user name is an English word... :p --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:48, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah that's cuz you [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=AbdiViklas&word2=Jay cheated] :-p (at 157,000,000). For non common names I have Abdi and Kookyk [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=AbdiViklas&word2=Stux beat]: 287,000 to 14,100. But the ultimate winner has to be [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=It%27s+dot+com&word2=Stux Dot com]: weighin in at 501,000. Not to be [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Tom&word2=Jay outdone], Jay is easily outclassed by Tom at a whopping 539,000,000. Congratulbalatitaitions Tom! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:05, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::But Stux is a Linux program, isn't it? So most of those hits are not you. I get 26,500 hits, and you can guarantee they're all me! {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:28, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Aw, I'm only at 1190 ... [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 02:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Podstar Runner

2006-02-21T19:10:05Z

Spell4yr:

== Alt versions for podcast ==
On the DVD version of [[dragon]], the homsar easter egg is automatically enabled. They also did this on the new podcast version of the email. So, is there some place that we can note this on the page for that email? Should we create new an entirely new section for Podcast version on this page and all sbemails??? --[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 17:25, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
: Probably, yeah. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:00, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== Haha... MINDREADERS! ==

I was thinking about H*R toons on iPods ''THIS MORNING''...!

== RSS Feed ==
Now all they need is an RSS feed so you can put this right in iTunes as a podcast and download it straight to the iPod.. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:25, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:Maybe a fan can create one. Y'know, like [http://interglacial.com/rss/homestar.html this one]. And no, I didn't mean that I would create one, either.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 19:08, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:I could certainly do it. I would just assume this would be something we'd want the Brothers Chaps to do themselves. In any case, I'll break out Notepad and have something up in a bit. :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 20:11, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

-I Created one that you can subscribe to here: [http://feeds.feedburner.com/podstartopod] The tags aren't all that great because I just created a category in Wordpress. But they're there and it works! Check it out - Brad Kovach

== XHTML 1.0 Transitional ==

First time I can remember a DOCTYPE being declared. Can anyone confirm? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:54, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:It's a shame it [http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/ doesn't validate]. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 03:49, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

== Podstar links ==

I added a new interwiki-style link to our repertoire. To link to one of the podstar.homestarrunner.com files, simply preface it with "Podstar:" (for example: [[Podstar:sb_email_japanese_cartoon.m4v]]). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:58, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== Picture? ==

What's with this weird picture we got here? Is this photoshopped or what?--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 20:36, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:Nope, the picture is from the .m4v of [[techno]]. [http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/technofullscreen.png Here's] a screenshot of the scene in iTunes. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 20:57, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
::Why is the wiki logo different? -You know who!
:::I customized it. See [[User:Venusy/monobook.css|my monobook.css]], about 25 lines down. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 21:09, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
::::That was cool.--{{User:That is Truly an Apple/Sig}} 21:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Can somebody transcript any custom animation it contains, like this Strong Bad thing? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:33, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== Quality ==

Has anybody noticed that the M4V videos have a much higher sound quality than the Flash files? Might seem a bit unfair for the "normal Flashers" at first, but if someone was to import the Flash file (which, if possible, would give us a load of vectors and so a nearly unlimited possibility of resizing) and mix its video track with the audio track of the M4V video, they could actually get megalomanic resolutions and a sound quality that beats the Flash file on the site. Anybody up to the task to make a proof-of-concept, HDTV-compatible Strong Bad Email? As long as it stays a non-redistributed proof-of-concept, it shouldn't be illegal. <nowiki>~~</nowiki>[[User:RavuAlHemio|Ravu]] 21:20, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:Seems like a bit of a waste of time to me, but whatever. Anyway, in regard to your question: from what i've seen, it may not be as, ahem, "simple", as that. Most Flash decompiling programs manage to bugger up tweens etc as well as fonts. Then, on top of this, you usually need to fiddle with the .fla file you get at the end to get it to match up with the original .swf as mask layers etc often separate. Basically, it'd be some hassle.

Actually.. also its higher sound quality on the DVD's too so you could always just buy the dvds... [[User:24.185.119.106|24.185.119.106]] 01:12, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, you should buy the DVDs, because it supports TBC. By the way, I wouldn't spend any time on it, because it ''would'' end up being illegal since anything worth doing eventually ends up distributed. Even if it were legal, this talk page is not the place to solicit volunteers to work on it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:45, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Never wished to argue with that. Anyways, I was actually thinking about buying myself the Overkill Combo, but since it seems minors can't have credit cards over here in Austria, I'll have to put that off for the next few years (or ask somebody with a credit card). <nowiki>~~</nowiki>[[User:RavuAlHemio|Ravu]] 06:08, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:::It is illegal. I study copyright law in my free time, and it is illegal. Sorry to crush your hopes and dreams, {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:43, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Sound? Yeah, that's a good one. I can't get any sound at all. Not to mention, the video quality seriously sucks.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:02, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh man! I am a complete idiot. The sound was off. No matter, I can just use the ones already there.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:06, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Have they explicitly forbidden ''creating derivative works for the sole personal use by one single person'' now? If it isn't redistributed, I don't see where the problem lies. <nowiki>~~</nowiki>[[User:RavuAlHemio|Ravu]] 13:13, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Link on Site ==

Is there a link to this page on the actual site besides the recently updated on the homepages? Like in downloads or something? That's where it should be.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 22:27, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== MP4's ==

Hey, do you guys think there is any chance that they would release them on MP4 format so we (i) can watch them on Our (my) PlayStation Portable (PSP) System? either that, or is there some sort of Software or something that i could download so i could convert the M4V Files to MP4's?

-COLA

Since theyve done m4p's they'll probablyn eventually do ones for the PSP. As for converting.. i have no clue lol. [[User:24.185.119.106|24.185.119.106]] 01:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

yes they work on the psp- [[HRFWiki:User:Freezestar|Freezestar]]

No, they dont. i checked it out, i even upgraded my Bloody psp, didnt work, and all my movies that i had on it couldnt be played. great job, Sony.

-COLA

They don't work on the PSP. The videos available from the Podstar Runner page are encoded using H.264, and not MPEG-4. While giving it a better file size and reasonable video quality, it makes it incompatible with the PSP. --[[User:TuqueeLukee|Tuquee]] 06:55, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Use PSPVideo9 to transcode the .M4v files. -CujoSR

[[Wikipedia:mencoder|mencoder]] sb_email_techno.m4v -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=896 -oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3:br=128 -o sb_email_techno.mp4
Let me know how that works for you, I'm not sure exactly what a PSP expects. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:10, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

== WMP? ==

do these files play on windows media player? (Or are they convertable to VuGo format?)--{{User:Benol/sig}} 01:09, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:: They are in H.264 video with AAC audio. I think there are codecs you can get for those for WMP. [[User:Person Man|Person Man]] 02:01, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==Unfocused Floppy==
[[Image:Floppy podcast background.png|thumb|discoveries of the deep?]]
So uh... Anybody figure out what the floppy is labled, the one that the iPod is resting against? All you... Decompilers or just those with good eyesight? And intuition? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:57, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think the floppy says: ''Something'' of the ''Something''. It's just too faded.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 02:09, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, I searched Moby games for a DOS title with "of the" in it, and of around 250 results, the most likely canditate I could find was "discoveries of the deep". Does that look plausible to anybody? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:36, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Definitely looks plausible. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 01:11, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Ditto that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::I added info for Discoveries of the Deep to the [[Floppy Disk Container]] article. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 19:31, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's iPod? I think not. ==

That is not Strong Sad's iPod in the background, as stated on the wiki. It appears to be at least a 4G iPod, but its shape (especially the screen) is closer to that of the 5G iPod. Look at it--it has the gray clickwheel characteristic of 4G+ iPods. Strong Sad's is first- or second-generation. -[[User:Bruce|Bruce]]

:It doesn't look exactly like Strong Sad's iPod from the picture, but it is blurry, so details might not have been put in. Other times that this happens is when you see a zoomed-out picture of the Compy, and you cannot see the dial. Lets just see what others put in as well and then we will make final decisions. -[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:52, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

::Whoops. Didn't sign that last message--fixed. Anyway, here's the thing. The blur would make it hard to decide, except for the scroll-wheel. Notice it's gray. Strong Sad's iPod, as seen so far, has had a white scroll-wheel. The blur filter may obscure details, but it's not going to change the colors of anything. -[[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 05:04, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:::The width of the screen appears to be wider than Strong Sad's iPod, but quite like a video iPod.

::::The enlarged screen size and trademarked click wheel give it away that this iPod was designed to be a 5G iPod. However, note the headphone jack is plugged into the middle of the top of the iPod. That characteristic is not true with 5G iPods, which have the jack on the far right of the top. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:35, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::Well, let's think about this for a minute. Who else in the Brothers Strong house (or anywhere else in FCUSA for that matter) owns an iPod? Mabye Strong Sad upgraded to a newer version or something. I agree, it's not the same one that we've seen before, but no one else has an iPod, so in my opinion, it ''has'' to be Strong Sad's. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:50, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

::::::I concur. Is this already noted on the item's article, or have we yet to add it? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:31, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

::::::I thought the same exact thing as Has Matt? but I forgot to mention it. Who else would have an ipod? I think so far its Strong Sads, unless maybe in the future it is revealed that maybe Strong Bad got one or something.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 21:55, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::Strong Bad with an iPod? Strong Bad thinks that flashlights are "the future of technology". {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:25, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::: Maybe the Cheat bought an iPod... I mean, we already know he likes Apple :P

== Original Name ==

Since they changed the name from Strong Bad video podcasts, I think we should mention it in trivia.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 22:00, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:So... mention it. :) I'd do it but I haven't kept up with this page closely enough to know for sure what you're talking about. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==What do I have to do?==
What do I have to do to make Strong Bad pop up? I says wait a second after the email, what email it doesn't play any email. {{User:Bassium!/sig}}

:Please be more specific. After every Strong Bad Email featured, a short clip of Strong Bad should appear. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:46, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh, so you have to download the emails to watch the clips and stuff, well in that case nevermind. {{User:Bassium!/sig}}

== PSP...rar ==

I could help with the PSP and iPod video conversion

:I don't believe that creating PSP files for distribution would fall under [[Wikipedia:Fair use|fair use]] laws. Thanks for offering, though. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:44, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

::While distribution of alternate versions would be illegal, converting it yourself to another format and playing it on your PSP would be considered fair use. Since the videos don't have DRM, they are not covered by the DMCA and the fair use exception can apply.
:::Creating a instructions to convert or a program that will do the converting would be fine (assuming you don't charge for it or anything). --[[User:SirNuke|SirNuke]] 01:22, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

::::This may be true, but ''I'' don't believe it falls under fair use. Just me. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 19:11, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Requires Quicktime? ==

Below external links it says that either iTunes or Quicktime is required to play these, but I must disagree. All that's needed is a player that can support the MOV file format, H264 decoding, and AAC decoding. The videos all play back perfectly on my computer without any sort of Apple "adware" installed. And it says that Quicktime version 6.0 is required, but I don't think that 6.0 can play H264 video. --[[User:Taku42|Taku42]] 21:07, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

:It can play H263, however. As for other programs, Quicktime and iTunes are the only two official programs that fully support and write .mov format. If you know of another that's as good as either of these, however, please say so. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:11, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

::[[Wikipedia:MPlayer|MPlayer]] (the almighty) has no problems. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:26, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

::The VideoLan Client ([http://www.videolan.org/vlc/]) works really well. Which is a bit odd since VLC often has trouble with newer Quicktime files.--[[User:SirNuke|SirNuke]] 01:06, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

They may mean Quicktime 7, which I believe is the minimum requirement for iTMS videos.

Anonymous.

Also, video is only supported in iTunes 6.0 and up, podcasts from version 4.9. So regarding either capability, the iTunes version in the article is incorrect. [[User:68.239.131.197|68.239.131.197]] 01:24, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Brothers Chaps helped! wooh ==

I got a email, from them after i emailed them.

Quicktime Pro can convert a .m4v file to an .mp4 file or any other format for that matter. Just open the file up in Quicktime and choose Export to put it in whatever format you need, this way you shouldn't have a problem getting it onto you PSP.

Brothers Chaps

On Jan 31, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Beep wrote:

Hello, i noticed that you just put up Podstar Runner, for the iPod, well, is it possible that you could do a different version, for the PSP? PSP uses the .mp4 files.

Thank You.

So...Wooh! --[[User:Jetamoo|Coach J]] 18:53, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

The psp needs a thumbnail file too so just converting it to mp4 won't work (I've tried). [http://www.pspvideo9.com/ PSP video 9]is the easiest way, it creates a thumbnail file automatically. Get a big memory stick too, videos eat up space fast.

== RSS feed oddities ==
I removed them from the article, because the odd things in the RSS feed (copyright tag, link tag) are because TBC copied the RSS example from [http://www.podcastx.com/articles/26/1/How-To-Publish-a-Podcast-on-the-iTunes-Music-Store Apple's website]. I have emailed TBC about the tags, too. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 00:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

==¿Qué está el problema?==

I downloaded the latest versions of quicktime and iTunes and these files won't run on my computer no matter what I try! The podcast won't even download, it keeps showing the same error! Is it because my comp uses windows? Does my computer hate me?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 05:23, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:Can't help you with the podcast. That's really too bad. :( But I can help you in other ways. Que and esta need é and á, and it's ''el'' problema. Tricky Spanish, eh? But sorry about the errors, and sorry that I'm no expert in iPods. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:36, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

::I don't even have an iPod, I just want to watch them on my comp so I can hear this so called "better sound quality".--{{User:Benol/sig}} 12:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Today's top podcast! ==

Strong Bad Email is currently "Today's Top Podcast" in the iTunes Music store! {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:32, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:Get a screenshot while it lasts. =) It might come in useful. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Here's the screenshots:
:<gallery>
Image:Podstar Top Podcast.png|<center>Top Podcast</center>
Image:Podstar New & Notable.png|<center>New & Notable</center>
</gallery>
:I'm not sure if these should go on the page or not, though. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 06:43, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

==Descriptions==

I'm not sure if this can go anywhere on the page, but I figured I'd list the descriptions within iTunes for the episodes.

techno -- Some bozo asks about techno music. 
japanese cartoon -- Strong Bad makes up his own japanese cartoon. 
dragon -- Strong Bad starts a bad drawing revolution. 
kids book -- Strong Bad seriously defaces a children's book. 
crying -- Strong Bad seriously defaces a children's book. (whoops on their part, apparently) 
bottom 10 -- From the home office in Scotsdale, AZ... 
caffeine -- Strong Sad gets caffeinated. 
virus -- A virus wreaks havoc on the Compy. 

I wasn't exactly sure where to put this, but I figured it should at least be listed somewhere around here, so here it is. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 07:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:lol, reading the edit history for the main page, I suppose I should have left my editorialized comments out of it, or put it separate or in italics or something. Sorry! (I didn't realize they fixed it, though; I guess I'll have to redownload it.) [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 19:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

virus

2006-02-21T08:07:57Z

Spell4yr: /* Real-World References */ adding justification for adding it even though a somewhat common phrase; the inflection is definitely Stooge-like

{{sbenav|118|montage|animal}}

[[Image:sbemail118.png|thumb|181px|"Waaugh! That is not a small number!!! That is a big number!!"]]

{{aboutemail}} {{for|collective name of viruses that affected the Homestar Runner universe|The Virus}}

Strong Bad experiences some "technical difficulties" with Compy 386... and the rest of the [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]] universe.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[The Virus]], {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}} (Easter egg) {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Rather Dashing}}, {{Film|Fightgar}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[King of Town's Castle]], [[The Stick]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' November 15, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 4:05

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386??

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I got the email, you got the email, I got the email, you got the email.
<blockquote class="compy email">ert+ 
y76p; '0lu8jkyee;u4p;e'/Rh 
Strong ba15456 `-------++++++gf 
+++++-//==========/*8901ikg</blockquote>

''{Pronounces "Ert plus: Why seven-six P? Ohlyuu eightkyee—" then stops}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What is this? Did the quadratic formula explode? I see a "Strong ba" in there, but it's getting eaten. By some... Linux or something. Wait a minute! Is this one of those ''virus'' emails? Like the kind that moms and offshore casinos send you?! I'll take care of this!

''{Strong Bad types "deleted," but the screen flashes:}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background:#003893;text-align:center">NICE TRY!</blockquote>

''{A red line of text appears reading "That didn't work."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! I said deleted!

''{Strong Bad types it again, this time in capital italicized letters, but the screen flashes:}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background:#003893;text-align:center">NOTTA 
CHANCE!!</blockquote>

''{A red line of text appears reading "That neither."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, a wise guy, eh? Maybe I should introduce you to my main man, Edgar!

''{Strong Bad types in [[Edgarware]].exe, bringing up the following text on-screen, along with a quick tune.}''

<blockquote class="compy email" style="text-align:center">Edgar the Virus 
Hunter 
 
programmed entirely 
in mom's basement 
by Edgar       c1982 </blockquote>

''{Strong Bad hits enter, and the screen switches to the following text}''

<blockquote class="compy email" style="text-align:center">Virus Protection 
version .0001 
 
Last scan was NEVER ago. 
 
scanning...</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, Edgar, now drop a ''train'' on 'em!

''{The following text now appears on the screen:}''

<blockquote class="compy email" style="text-align:center">Scan Complete! 
 
'''<big><big><big><big>423,827</big></big></big></big>''' 
Viruses Found! 
 
A New Record!!</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{alarmed}'' Waaugh! That is not a small number! That is a ''big'' number!! What'm I gonna do?

''{The following text now appears on the screen, accompanied by the Compy's startup beep:}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background:#003893;text-align:center">FLAGRANT SYSTEM ERROR 
 
Computer over. 
Virus = Very Yes.</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Computer over? Virus equals very yes? That's not a good prize!

''{The text on the Compy 386 screen melts off and slides onto the floor.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooh!

''{Strong Bad jumps out of the way. The camera zooms out to a view of the computer desk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And the Compy just peed my carpet.

''{The corner of the computer desk briefly flashes, showing an underlying gridwork to it, The No Loafing sign becomes the following text and falls off the wall.}''

<pre>
<head>
<href>No loafing!!</href>
</body>
</pre>

''{The Floppy Disk Container gets eaten by the computer desk. Strong Sad walks in, but his head is floating a foot to the left of where it should be and has been replaced by his emoticons from [[Strong Sad's Lament]].}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Strong Bad, what is going on?

'''STRONG BAD:''' WAH! I dunno. You forgot to wear your neck?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Have you been using the Internet irresponsibly?

''{The top of a Main Page starts to creep into the top of the email, with the text "Stave it off, 1, 2, 3..." in the corner in place of the "What's new" text.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No more irresponsibly than usual.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{His lower body starts walking away in place.}'' Did you get a virus?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{with guilt}'' Uhhh, noo...

'''STRONG SAD:''' Did you get four hundred thousand viruses?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{submissive}'' Yes... Very yes!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, hurry up and ''do'' something about it before it gets worse!

''{Strong Sad turns into a Strong Sad trading card and flies up and off the screen. The Main Page at the top of the screen creeps up and out of the email.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{scared}'' The Cheeeaaat!

''{Strong Bad runs off the screen and into the black to the right of the computer desk, then stops.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What the? Whoa! ''{shivers}'' It's cold out here!

''{Strong Bad tries to jump back into the room, but the room shifts left, causing him to still fall on blank space.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey!

''{Homestar Runner walks onscreen. His body is Old-Timey Homestar Runner's body, while the rest of him is normal. Instead of his legs moving, he just glides on, producing several ghost images of himself.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Never fear, Strong Bad! I know how to fix your computer box! ''{He turns to the Compy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{stands up}'' No, no! Don't touch that!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Your super box needs words. ''{His head falls off and onto the ground.}'' Like these right here!

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, stop! That's not supposed to be possible!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Uhh, this one ''{He picks up "downloads" from the bottom menu.}'' and this one ''{He picks up "games" from the bottom menu.}'' and this-a-this-a-this one. ''{He picks up "characters" from the bottom menu.}''

''{Suddenly, several pop-up windows appear one after the other (including a real one, unless popup blocking is used), titled "Click on the Monkey!!" They each feature oldschool Homestar who is saying "Making out with Marzipan is totally awesome!" Strong Bad starts screaming and pounds the side of the screen with his fists. Cut to Marzipan's living room. Strong Mad is standing nearby and Marzipan is standing next to a stack of VHS tapes.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, I think it's fantastic, Strong Mad! That's the best stack of VHS tapes I've ever—

''{Marzipan turns into an [[Wikipedia:ASCII|ASCII]] rendering of herself, and her voice becomes extremely deep and distorted making her words unintelligible.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' I CAN'T SPELL YOU!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{more unintelligible gibberish}''

''{Strong Mad turns into a picture of himself from his character video inside a large M, which walks offscreen with Homsar's walking noise. Text appears at the top of the screen reading as follows.}''

<pre>
If anyone is truly a big lug, Strong Mad is. This guy is dumb
strong, and that's pretty much the definition of a lug. One ti
his brother Strong Bad asked him to pick up this one car. An
he did, but it was the wrong car. See? Dumb and strong. He'
</pre>

''{Cut to the King of Town's castle. The Poopsmith is standing with his shovel extended and some [[Whatsit|whatsit]] on the end of it, as the King of Town stands nearby.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' A little to the left... ''{The Poopsmith extends the shovel toward the King.}'' Good, good...

''{The scene suddenly changes to a [[Teen Girl Squad]] style piece of paper, with the text "issue [[Wikipedia:Pi|3.14159265and the rest]]" at the top. The Poopsmith is gone.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ooh! Poopsmith?

''{The Ugly One appears out of nowhere with the rhino sound from "Strong Bad's RhinoFeeder", and her mouth is huge and distorted.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' I can do it! I can do it 9 times!

''{The Ugly One extends her arm and starts slapping the King of Town.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Uh! No! Please! Stop! I'm old! And fat! And rich! And cool!

''{Cut to the Homestar Runner loading screen, and reveals a screen with the text "It's now safe to turn your computer off." Bubs walks on from the side of the screen. His mouth is a broken JPEG (with "TH" as the alt text), his legs are rendered in a fashion suitable for red/blue 3D-glasses, his midsection is missing, and he's carrying one of Homestar's legs in his left arm. His other arm is continually waving about, as seen on [[Dancin' Bubs]]. It is a bit larger than it should be}''

'''BUBS:''' I shoulda done this, like, a million years ago.

''{Cut to The Field, now a cloud scene. The Stick is gone. Strong Bad has one big foot instead of both legs, his black mark is too high, and his head and mouth are lopsided. The Cheat is floating around the screen, interchanging between different versions of himself. A pitch-black Rather Dashing and a colon fly by in the foreground. As Strong Bad talks, his left arm detaches from his body and flies off in random directions.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Using an old version of his voice}'' With Marzipan's radish, we're gonna win the competition!

''{An explosion sound effect is heard, and suddenly everything returns to normal, revealing Strong Bad and The Cheat standing by The Stick.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey! He fixed it! That Bubs is a computer genius man! Let's do a dance for the computer genius man!

''{A salsa rhythm starts up, and Strong Bad and The Cheat start dancing. The camera pans to the left to reveal Bubs holding a shotgun.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks Bubs! How'd you get rid of the vi— ''{salsa music fades away}'' wait...why do you have a shotgun? ''{shaken}'' What did you do? Where's my Compy?!

'''BUBS:''' It's in a better place, Strong Bad. Or rather, it's in the same place, but now it's got a big hole through it!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{still shaken}'' YOU MURDERER! You killed my brother! ''{nearly sobbing}'' I mean, computer!

'''BUBS:''' Look, Strong Bad, my mouth was a broken JPEG! I had no choice!

'''STRONG BAD:''' You don't understand! You ''all'' understand! I mean, don't understand. AAAUUUGGGHHH!

''{Strong Bad runs off screen, very distraught. The Cheat squeaks and runs after him. Homestar hops onscreen on one leg, holding his other leg up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Bubs! Can I have my leg back now?

''{Bubs stares at Homestar for a long, uncomfortable moment.}

''{Cut to the Compy 386, which now has a giant hole through its monitor and most of the wall behind it. Strong Bad is sitting in front of it, head bowed.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{very distraught}'' Dear Strong Bad, I doh du duoh crapfully yours. ''{He hits his head on the keyboard a few times.}''I...ID DOH DU DUOH CRAPFULLY YOURS! I can relate. ''{He hits his head on the keyboard again.}'' I ''can't'' re''late!'' ''{He hits his head on the keyboard again.}'' I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get in there and '''mix''' ''{He hits his head.}'' it up.

''{The Paper comes down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{still very distraught}'' I don't remember your ''name'', Davey! ''{hits head on keyboard again}'' Dear Strong Bad. ''{voice trailing off}'' How do you text with boxing gloves on?

== Easter Eggs ==

*When the Main page is encroaching on the top of the screen you can still click the [[Quote of the Week]], weekly [[Sketchbook]], and [[Weekly Fanstuff]] buttons to see them.
**If you hold tab until it highlights over where the updates are posted and hit enter, it takes you to [[Halloween Fairstival]].
**If you mouse over the Quote of the Week, it bounces around the screen until it gets lodged at the top. When you click "Hear it," a pixelated broom scrolls vertically along the screen and makes a loud distorted noise, the same as is heard by Marzipan moments later and some of the links disappear off the bottom of the screen. When you click the "X" to close it, the Quote of the Week box wobbles a bit and then falls off the screen and the links reappear.
***This happens because the SWF file for virus's fake QOD (qod_virus.swf) has black bars at the bottom, right where those words are, so when it appears in the email, it covers up those words.
**If you click on Weekly Fanstuff, it leads to a glitched fanstuff box, where there is a picture of Coach Z upside down with his arms and legs wrapped around a white space the shape of The King of Town's head. This image is from [[Where's The Cheat?]], when Coach Z attacked The King over a misunderstanding involving The Cheat and [[The King of Town's Grill|a grill]]. The picture has a lot of numbers at the bottom. Scroll over the close button, which is misspelled as OCⓧSLE, and the words 'A BOOK' appear in green.
***The numbers are in a font called "MS Reference Specialty" and spell out the phrase "stick to your books" (possibly—since the letters a–h in MS Reference Specialty are represented by little squares).
**If you click on the Sketchbook, it leads to a glitched sketchbook box, where the Flash MX color mixer appears. Scroll over it and a green X appears overtop. Clicking it causes it to close. Allowing it to remain on-screen causes a screen glitch—a black box appears over the left side of the screen when the screen moves off of the center of the page.
***The reason for the glitch is because in the .swf file of the glitched up sketchbook, there is a black box to the left of the screen, which, of course, covers up the screen on the left.
*If you click on the cog on the left at the end of the e-mail, you can see Compy 386 on sale at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], with signs reading "Like Used!" and "Slightly Shotgunned!"
*If you click on the fan on the right, you can see an excerpt of the original [[Cheat Commandos (toon)|Cheat Commandos]] toon, but with Fightgar using Homestar's leg as a gun.
:'''NARRATOR:''' To protect the world from the evil forces of Blue Laser!

== Fun Facts ==
=== Explanations ===
*The [[Wikipedia:Quadratic equation#Quadratic formula|quadratic formula]] is an algebraic equation used to determine the roots of a [[Wikipedia:Quadratic equation|quadratic equation]].

=== Trivia ===
*This is the only email in which the [[HR:main_nav.swf|navbar]] and the email are combined into one Flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words). When the [[Random Toon|random toon]] link ("rando") was added to the navbar, The Brothers Chaps forgot or chose not to update this page.
*The broken JPEG is used in the Netscape family of web browsers, including [[Wikipedia:Netscape Navigator|Netscape Navigator]], [[Wikipedia:Mozilla|Mozilla]], and [[Wikipedia:Mozilla Firefox|Mozilla Firefox]].
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#spy vs spy|spy vs spy]]".

=== Remarks ===
*Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982.
*Strong Bad's head is larger than normal (but not his wrestling mask) while he is talking to Strong Sad. It reverts back to normal when he runs for The Cheat, but then regresses back to the larger head once he enters into the black.
*The letters that make up ASCII Marzipan refer to parts of her body: "E" for eyes, "f" for face, "h" for hair, and "d" for dress.
*Strong Bad says that Edgar from the [[Edgarware]] program is his "main man." However, he claims in "[[2 years]]" that his main man "is, and has been since [[1987]], Van Mundegaarde."
*The reason the "making out with Marzipan" pop-up doesn't come up in the .swf, or Flash, version is because the information for the pop-up is stored in the HTML source code. All that the Flash file does is to send a JavaScript command to the browser, opening the pop-up window.
*In the Fake QOD, the words "Quote of the Day (Or So)" are displayed reversed, as though in a mirror, and, instead of "Hear It!" and "Get It!", the buttons are "Hear It!" and "Don't TAPE It", although the latter is hidden by the top of the screen.
**If you view the Flash file directly and hover over "Don't TAPE It", the button changes to "Don't TAKE It".
*This is the second e-mail made using the Widescreen technique. The first was [[flashback]].
*If you click "main" on the navigation bar, it takes you to [[404'd]]. The address is http://www.homestarrunner.com/mainNaN.html. NaN is the computer term for Not a Number, which is obtained in some environments by dividing zero by zero, and/or other mathematical errors.
*When the fake popups appear followed by the real one, the fake ones look similar to the windows from some of the older Windows operating systems. Depending on which visual theme or version of Windows you are running, the real popup looks quite different from the fake ones. This is more pronounced when viewed on Windows ME, Windows 2000 and especially Windows XP. Windows 98 users will see no obvious difference.

=== Goofs ===
*While the liquid is leaking out of the screen, the contrast buttons are still clickable.
*After Homestar grabs "downloads", "characters", and "games" from the bottom, "toons" is no longer clickable, unlike the other remaining links. Then, at the end of the email when everything else returns to normal, all the links disappear.
*The fake QOD, fanstuff, and sketchbook stay on the screen until you get rid of them, even after Bubs shotguns the Compy, and in the Easter eggs.
*After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears.
*The links between "toons" and "contact" disappear while the Quote of the Day Easter egg is active.
*Most shotguns spread out from the barrel, whereas the blast from Bub's shotgun seems to narrow down as it reaches the back wall.
*When Strong bad runs away from Bubs and The Cheat at the end his legs are missing in the flash file.

=== Inside References ===

*This is an extreme instance of [[Strong Bad's Computer Malfunctioning]].
*Strong Bad's response to the Flagrant System Error ("That's not a good prize!") comes from "[[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]".
*"Stave it off, 1, 2, 3..." is from the counting song in "[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]]".
*The card that Strong Sad transforms into is from the original deck of [[Character Cards]] that has since been removed from the site.
*The pixelated broom induced by the glitched Quote of the Day is the same graphic used in Peasant's Quest for the broom [[Baby Lady & Her Baby|the baby]] knocks over to let you into [[Naked Ned]]'s cottage.
**Using a broom to play Marzipan's ASCII noise may be an oblique reference to people mistaking her for a broom.
*"Making out with Marzipan is totally awesome" was once the phrase necessary to trigger the Strong Bad Talker from the [[Homestar Talker]]. (It has since been changed.) The sound clips for the words were also taken from the Homestar Talker. The first four words of the phrase are also heard in "[[The Cheat Theme Song]]".
*Strong Bad screaming and pounding on the edge of the screen while the popups are appearing could be a reference to [[Where the Crap Are We?]].
*Strong Mad's description, which appears when he glitches, comes from the [[Yearbook Character Page]], as does the picture of him inside a giant M.
*The sound effect that plays when The Ugly One appears is taken from [[RhinoFeeder]].
*[[The Ugly One]]'s line and the sound effects for her slapping the King of Town in the face come from [[crazy cartoon]]. (However, she slightly misquotes it: the original line was "I can do it! I ''will'' do it nine times.")
*The powering-down sound that plays just before Bubs walks across the screen is the same sound that plays just before the [[Tandy 400]] explodes in [[gimmicks]]
*As Bubs is walking across the screen the first time, his left and right arms are moving as if stuck in positons #4 and #5 (respectively) in the [[Dancin' Bubs]] game. Bubs' right arm is also about twice as large as usual.
*Bubs' broken JPEG mouth bears the letters "TH." This might be a reference to his other identity, [[The Thnikkaman]].
*During the final glitch scene (just before Bubs "fixes" the computer), the song playing in the background is the intro to "[[Parsnips-A-Plenty]]" and "[[That A Ghost]]".
*Strong Bad's line during the final glitch scene is taken directly from [[The Reddest Radish]].
*The cloud background during the final glitch scene is the same cloud background used in [[New Boots]].
[[Image:virusdthecheat.gif|thumb|Virus'd The Cheat]]
*During the final glitch scene, The Cheat is on a rotation of six different versions of himself:
:# The [[Awexome Cross]] version.
:# One that looks like one of The Cheat's styles from "[[The Cheat Theme Song]]".
:# A drawn version, from "[[The Reddest Radish]]".
:# Another drawn version from Strong Bad's site.
:# A far more pixellated version of him, with a thin black outline around it.
:# And a Cheat x-ing sign, much like the similar signs seen in the "fan stuff" part of the [[Museum]].
*The fan and cog in the Compy 386 are the same fan and cog that were visible when the Tandy 400 exploded.
**If you look closely (or zoom into the Flash file) the fan is once again mysteriously floating in space, just like when the Tandy 400 blew up.
*Bubs sells the [[Broken Compy Menu|broken Compy 386]] as he did with the [[King of Town Email|broken Tandy 400]].
*At the very end, Strong Bad mutters "[[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?|how do you text with boxing gloves on?]]", a question commonly asked in his emails.

=== Real-World References ===
*[[Wikipedia:Linux|"Linux"]] is a [[Wikipedia:Free software|Free]] [[Wikipedia:Unix|Unix-like]] [[Wikipedia:Kernel (computer science)|kernel]] originally written in 1991, or part of an entire operating system which uses this kernel ([[Wikipedia:GNU/Linux|"GNU/Linux"]]).
*[[Edgarware]] is a spoof of Norton Anti-Virus, which until 2001 used bespectacled computer nerd [[Wikipedia:Peter Norton|Peter Norton]] as a front man.
*The [[Floppy Disk Container]] on Strong Bad's desk is labeled "''Spy vs. Spy''" before it melts into the desk. ''[[Wikipedia:Spy vs. Spy|Spy vs. Spy]]'', based on the feature comic of [[Wikipedia:Mad Magazine|MAD Magazine]], was a game for old computers and the NES that featured innovative split screen gameplay.
*The part where Homestar is followed by "ghost" images of himself is a Flash in-joke, referring to the [[Wikipedia:Onion skinning|Onion skinning]] feature of the program that will display translucent images of previous frames as an animation guide.
*"Click on the monkey" refers to various [[Wikipedia:Pop-up ad|popups]] where if you click said object (ranging from targets to robbers, iPods, etc.), your computer will usually get bombarded with spyware, viruses, etc.
*The dance The Cheat performs when Strong Bad says, "Let's do a dance for the computer genius man," looks like [[Wikipedia:Dana Carvey|Dana Carvey]]'s "[[Wikipedia:Church Lady|Church Lady]]" dance from the classic SNL sketch.
*"[[Wikipedia:Bourgeoisie|Bourgeoise]]," one of the emoticons acting as Strong Sad's head is the term used in [[Wikipedia:Marxism|Marxism]] to describe the upper or middle class that opposed the [[Wikipedia:Proletariat|proletariat]] in the class struggle.
*The "ding" sound heard after EdgarWare finds the viruses is taken from some versions of [[Wikipedia:Microsoft Windows|Microsoft Windows]].
*The screen "It's now safe to turn your computer off." is similar to the one displayed when shutting down a Windows computer that cannot turn itself off. The actual message is "It is now safe to turn off your computer", and the style of this message is taken from Windows 95 through 98.
*"A wise guy, eh?" was frequently muttered (in a very similar tone of voice to how Strong Bad says it) by [[Wikipedia:Moe Howard|Moe Howard]] of the comedy group [[Wikipedia:The Three Stooges|The Three Stooges]].

== DVD Version ==
*The central pop-up (e.g. the one that would actually pop up on the website version) does not appear.
*Unlike all other DVD emails, this has the [[HR:main_nav.swf|navbar]] on the bottom.
*The way the Quote of the Week, Sketchbook, and Weekly Fanstuff easter eggs work has changed. All three are combined into one easter egg, which goes to the Weekly Fanstuff easter egg, then the Quote of the Week easter egg, and finally the Sketchbook easter egg.
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]], [[Homestar Runner]])

'''MIKE:''' This email looks tiny, Matt.

'''MATT:''' It's a funny shape.

'''MIKE:''' It's smaller than the rest, and there's little words at the bottom.

'''MATT:''' This doesn't make any sense to me!

'''MIKE:''' What's going on?

'''MATT:''' S— Oh, no. Strong Bad must have gotten some type of a wirus!

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Virus.

'''MATT:''' B— Pardon?

'''MIKE:''' Virus?

'''MATT:''' Oh. I used the German pronunciation.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah?

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' K. Um, so this was, uh, this was a— this email was kind of a big— big production.

'''MATT:''' Mm hmm.

'''MIKE:''' Took longer than most.

'''MATT:''' A long time in coming.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. Um...

'''MATT:''' Yeah, see— he hasn't used "deleted" on the Lappy yet, now that he has a new computer, has he?

'''MIKE:''' I guess not. I wonder what it looks like when he deletes something on the Lappy.

'''MATT:''' I dunno. "Drop a train on 'em" was from a bad hip-hop song I made in college — ''{Mike laughs}''— where I sampled the soundtrack from a Dirty Harry movie.

'''MIKE:''' That's a good song.

'''MATT:''' Thanks.

''{Pause}''

'''MIKE:''' So this, obviously, was, uh, pretty fun to make where you could just kinda put stuff wherever and just...

'''MATT:''' It's more like ''your'' computer is getting the virus than Strong Bad's computer getting the virus.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. The whole world is getting the virus.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. "Stave it off, 1, 2, 3" up there at the top.

'''MIKE:''' Mm hmm. There's uh, Strong Sad's head is the, uh, his little emoticons from the uh, his—

'''MATT:''' Strong Sad's Web journal.

'''MIKE:''' Strong Sad Journal.

'''MATT:''' That was from an unused character page we never made.

'''MIKE:''' Mm hmm.

''{Pause}''

'''MIKE:''' Say something good, Matt.

'''MATT:''' Uh—

'''MIKE:''' Make it— Make it funny.

'''MATT:''' All right. ''{adopts different tone}'' T— To— ''{normal voice}'' Oh, yeah, weren't we gonna do— I was going to be a character when we did this commentary.

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah. Start doing Homestar.

'''MATT:''' All right...

''{Pause}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' That was a lot of me's.

'''MIKE:''' That ''was'' a lot of you's.

'''HOMESTAR:''' Mike, some of them were old me's that don't look so great.

'''MIKE:''' That's right. I thought you looked pretty good back in the old days.

'''HOMESTAR:''' No, no.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, you—

'''HOMESTAR:''' Look bad.

'''MIKE:''' Look Bad!

'''HOMESTAR:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Strong Bad.

'''HOMESTAR:''' That's a different character.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Who was Look Bad again?

'''HOMESTAR:''' Oh, what are they doing there? Is he gonna eat that doo-doo shovel?

'''MIKE:''' No, I think was going to take a picture of it, maybe.

'''HOMESTAR:''' But he doesn't have a camera, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' But the camera was offscreen.

'''HOMESTAR:''' He's got a mustache.

'''MIKE:''' The camera was offscreen.

'''HOMESTAR:''' He clearly wanted... a doo-doo-stache.

'''MIKE:''' Who's that, Homestar?

'''HOMESTAR:''' That looks kinda like Bubs, from Website. But I don't think so. Oh, look, it's ''Pitfall''.

'''MIKE:''' That did happen in ''Pitfall''.

'''HOMESTAR:''' If you flick the on and off switch a lot, you get a little floating Pitfall Harry through the trees!

'''MIKE:''' Oh, I like The Cheat's little sassy dance there, Homestar. Did you teach him that?

'''HOMESTAR:''' I did. Hands on hips!

'''MIKE:''' How'd you teach him that?

'''HOMESTAR:''' I said, "Hands on hips!"

'''MIKE:''' Look, there's your leg.

'''HOMESTAR:''' That is not my leg! That looks like a shotgun.

'''MIKE:''' Bu—

''{Pause}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' That shotgun looks dangerous, Mike. I don't agree with its appearance in this cartoon.

'''MIKE:''' You shouldn't play with shotguns, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR:''' I don't, man.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Good.

'''HOMESTAR:''' Did you learn that the hard way?

'''MIKE:''' No.

'''HOMESTAR:''' Penny Hardaway?

'''MIKE:''' I'm allowed to— I'm allowed to draw them, though. Drawing them's no problem.

'''HOMESTAR:''' Drawing them is bad.

'''MIKE:''' No, I think it's okay.

'''HOMESTAR:''' Here I come!

'''MIKE:''' See?

'''HOMESTAR:''' Look! I lost my leg!

'''MIKE:''' I know, that's— Bubs— Bubs has it there.

'''HOMESTAR:''' Strong Bad looks like he's a little delirious in this part.

'''MIKE:''' He's— He's sad. He's had a great loss. People sometimes act like this... when they're experiencing great losses.

'''HOMESTAR:''' But— Mike, a great loss sounds like a contradiction.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' I don't— I've never had any ''great'' losses.

'''MIKE:''' "Great"— "Great" meaning "large," not meaning—

'''HOMESTAR:''' All my losses are bad losses.

'''MIKE:''' You've never had a great loss?

'''HOMESTAR:''' Except maybe, some pounds. ''{Pause}'' He just really put a hole right through that thing, huh?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. Didn't go through the wall, though.

'''HOMESTAR:''' Nope. ''{whispering}'' Let's get quiet.

'''MIKE:''' ''{whispering}'' Okay.

=== Fun Facts ===

* Matt says Strong Bad got a "wirus" and then calls this "the German pronunciation". This is because many native German speakers have difficulty distinguishing the "v" and "w" sounds in English and might thus say "wirus" instead of "virus".
* Homestar demonstrates his ignorance that he has [[Lack of Visible Arms|no visible hands or arms]].

== See Also ==
* [[Main Page 22]]

== External Links ==
{{sbemailextlinks|118|1284}}*[[HR:hsmakeout.html|view the "click the monkey" popup]]
*[[HR:hsmakeout.swf|view the Flash file for the "click the monkey" popup]]
*[[HR:qod_virus.swf|view the Flash file for the "fake QOD"]]
*[[HR:fanstuff_virus.swf|view the Flash file for the "fake fanstuff"]]
*[[HR:sketchbook_virus.swf|view the Flash file for the "fake sketchbook"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Powered by The Cheat]][[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

virus

2006-02-21T08:06:32Z

Spell4yr: /* Real-World References */ I can't believe T3S reference isn't on the page

{{sbenav|118|montage|animal}}

[[Image:sbemail118.png|thumb|181px|"Waaugh! That is not a small number!!! That is a big number!!"]]

{{aboutemail}} {{for|collective name of viruses that affected the Homestar Runner universe|The Virus}}

Strong Bad experiences some "technical difficulties" with Compy 386... and the rest of the [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]] universe.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[The Virus]], {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Coach Z}} (Easter egg) {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Rather Dashing}}, {{Film|Fightgar}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[King of Town's Castle]], [[The Stick]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Compy 386}}

'''Date:''' November 15, 2004

'''Running Time:''' 4:05

'''Page Title:''' Compy 386??

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I got the email, you got the email, I got the email, you got the email.
<blockquote class="compy email">ert+ 
y76p; '0lu8jkyee;u4p;e'/Rh 
Strong ba15456 `-------++++++gf 
+++++-//==========/*8901ikg</blockquote>

''{Pronounces "Ert plus: Why seven-six P? Ohlyuu eightkyee—" then stops}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What is this? Did the quadratic formula explode? I see a "Strong ba" in there, but it's getting eaten. By some... Linux or something. Wait a minute! Is this one of those ''virus'' emails? Like the kind that moms and offshore casinos send you?! I'll take care of this!

''{Strong Bad types "deleted," but the screen flashes:}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background:#003893;text-align:center">NICE TRY!</blockquote>

''{A red line of text appears reading "That didn't work."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! I said deleted!

''{Strong Bad types it again, this time in capital italicized letters, but the screen flashes:}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background:#003893;text-align:center">NOTTA 
CHANCE!!</blockquote>

''{A red line of text appears reading "That neither."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, a wise guy, eh? Maybe I should introduce you to my main man, Edgar!

''{Strong Bad types in [[Edgarware]].exe, bringing up the following text on-screen, along with a quick tune.}''

<blockquote class="compy email" style="text-align:center">Edgar the Virus 
Hunter 
 
programmed entirely 
in mom's basement 
by Edgar       c1982 </blockquote>

''{Strong Bad hits enter, and the screen switches to the following text}''

<blockquote class="compy email" style="text-align:center">Virus Protection 
version .0001 
 
Last scan was NEVER ago. 
 
scanning...</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right, Edgar, now drop a ''train'' on 'em!

''{The following text now appears on the screen:}''

<blockquote class="compy email" style="text-align:center">Scan Complete! 
 
'''<big><big><big><big>423,827</big></big></big></big>''' 
Viruses Found! 
 
A New Record!!</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{alarmed}'' Waaugh! That is not a small number! That is a ''big'' number!! What'm I gonna do?

''{The following text now appears on the screen, accompanied by the Compy's startup beep:}''

<blockquote class="email" style="background:#003893;text-align:center">FLAGRANT SYSTEM ERROR 
 
Computer over. 
Virus = Very Yes.</blockquote>

'''STRONG BAD:''' Computer over? Virus equals very yes? That's not a good prize!

''{The text on the Compy 386 screen melts off and slides onto the floor.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooh!

''{Strong Bad jumps out of the way. The camera zooms out to a view of the computer desk.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And the Compy just peed my carpet.

''{The corner of the computer desk briefly flashes, showing an underlying gridwork to it, The No Loafing sign becomes the following text and falls off the wall.}''

<pre>
<head>
<href>No loafing!!</href>
</body>
</pre>

''{The Floppy Disk Container gets eaten by the computer desk. Strong Sad walks in, but his head is floating a foot to the left of where it should be and has been replaced by his emoticons from [[Strong Sad's Lament]].}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Strong Bad, what is going on?

'''STRONG BAD:''' WAH! I dunno. You forgot to wear your neck?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Have you been using the Internet irresponsibly?

''{The top of a Main Page starts to creep into the top of the email, with the text "Stave it off, 1, 2, 3..." in the corner in place of the "What's new" text.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No more irresponsibly than usual.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{His lower body starts walking away in place.}'' Did you get a virus?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{with guilt}'' Uhhh, noo...

'''STRONG SAD:''' Did you get four hundred thousand viruses?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{submissive}'' Yes... Very yes!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, hurry up and ''do'' something about it before it gets worse!

''{Strong Sad turns into a Strong Sad trading card and flies up and off the screen. The Main Page at the top of the screen creeps up and out of the email.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{scared}'' The Cheeeaaat!

''{Strong Bad runs off the screen and into the black to the right of the computer desk, then stops.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What the? Whoa! ''{shivers}'' It's cold out here!

''{Strong Bad tries to jump back into the room, but the room shifts left, causing him to still fall on blank space.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey!

''{Homestar Runner walks onscreen. His body is Old-Timey Homestar Runner's body, while the rest of him is normal. Instead of his legs moving, he just glides on, producing several ghost images of himself.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Never fear, Strong Bad! I know how to fix your computer box! ''{He turns to the Compy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{stands up}'' No, no! Don't touch that!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Your super box needs words. ''{His head falls off and onto the ground.}'' Like these right here!

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, stop! That's not supposed to be possible!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Uhh, this one ''{He picks up "downloads" from the bottom menu.}'' and this one ''{He picks up "games" from the bottom menu.}'' and this-a-this-a-this one. ''{He picks up "characters" from the bottom menu.}''

''{Suddenly, several pop-up windows appear one after the other (including a real one, unless popup blocking is used), titled "Click on the Monkey!!" They each feature oldschool Homestar who is saying "Making out with Marzipan is totally awesome!" Strong Bad starts screaming and pounds the side of the screen with his fists. Cut to Marzipan's living room. Strong Mad is standing nearby and Marzipan is standing next to a stack of VHS tapes.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, I think it's fantastic, Strong Mad! That's the best stack of VHS tapes I've ever—

''{Marzipan turns into an [[Wikipedia:ASCII|ASCII]] rendering of herself, and her voice becomes extremely deep and distorted making her words unintelligible.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' I CAN'T SPELL YOU!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{more unintelligible gibberish}''

''{Strong Mad turns into a picture of himself from his character video inside a large M, which walks offscreen with Homsar's walking noise. Text appears at the top of the screen reading as follows.}''

<pre>
If anyone is truly a big lug, Strong Mad is. This guy is dumb
strong, and that's pretty much the definition of a lug. One ti
his brother Strong Bad asked him to pick up this one car. An
he did, but it was the wrong car. See? Dumb and strong. He'
</pre>

''{Cut to the King of Town's castle. The Poopsmith is standing with his shovel extended and some [[Whatsit|whatsit]] on the end of it, as the King of Town stands nearby.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' A little to the left... ''{The Poopsmith extends the shovel toward the King.}'' Good, good...

''{The scene suddenly changes to a [[Teen Girl Squad]] style piece of paper, with the text "issue [[Wikipedia:Pi|3.14159265and the rest]]" at the top. The Poopsmith is gone.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ooh! Poopsmith?

''{The Ugly One appears out of nowhere with the rhino sound from "Strong Bad's RhinoFeeder", and her mouth is huge and distorted.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' I can do it! I can do it 9 times!

''{The Ugly One extends her arm and starts slapping the King of Town.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Uh! No! Please! Stop! I'm old! And fat! And rich! And cool!

''{Cut to the Homestar Runner loading screen, and reveals a screen with the text "It's now safe to turn your computer off." Bubs walks on from the side of the screen. His mouth is a broken JPEG (with "TH" as the alt text), his legs are rendered in a fashion suitable for red/blue 3D-glasses, his midsection is missing, and he's carrying one of Homestar's legs in his left arm. His other arm is continually waving about, as seen on [[Dancin' Bubs]]. It is a bit larger than it should be}''

'''BUBS:''' I shoulda done this, like, a million years ago.

''{Cut to The Field, now a cloud scene. The Stick is gone. Strong Bad has one big foot instead of both legs, his black mark is too high, and his head and mouth are lopsided. The Cheat is floating around the screen, interchanging between different versions of himself. A pitch-black Rather Dashing and a colon fly by in the foreground. As Strong Bad talks, his left arm detaches from his body and flies off in random directions.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Using an old version of his voice}'' With Marzipan's radish, we're gonna win the competition!

''{An explosion sound effect is heard, and suddenly everything returns to normal, revealing Strong Bad and The Cheat standing by The Stick.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey! He fixed it! That Bubs is a computer genius man! Let's do a dance for the computer genius man!

''{A salsa rhythm starts up, and Strong Bad and The Cheat start dancing. The camera pans to the left to reveal Bubs holding a shotgun.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Thanks Bubs! How'd you get rid of the vi— ''{salsa music fades away}'' wait...why do you have a shotgun? ''{shaken}'' What did you do? Where's my Compy?!

'''BUBS:''' It's in a better place, Strong Bad. Or rather, it's in the same place, but now it's got a big hole through it!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{still shaken}'' YOU MURDERER! You killed my brother! ''{nearly sobbing}'' I mean, computer!

'''BUBS:''' Look, Strong Bad, my mouth was a broken JPEG! I had no choice!

'''STRONG BAD:''' You don't understand! You ''all'' understand! I mean, don't understand. AAAUUUGGGHHH!

''{Strong Bad runs off screen, very distraught. The Cheat squeaks and runs after him. Homestar hops onscreen on one leg, holding his other leg up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, Bubs! Can I have my leg back now?

''{Bubs stares at Homestar for a long, uncomfortable moment.}

''{Cut to the Compy 386, which now has a giant hole through its monitor and most of the wall behind it. Strong Bad is sitting in front of it, head bowed.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{very distraught}'' Dear Strong Bad, I doh du duoh crapfully yours. ''{He hits his head on the keyboard a few times.}''I...ID DOH DU DUOH CRAPFULLY YOURS! I can relate. ''{He hits his head on the keyboard again.}'' I ''can't'' re''late!'' ''{He hits his head on the keyboard again.}'' I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get in there and '''mix''' ''{He hits his head.}'' it up.

''{The Paper comes down.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{still very distraught}'' I don't remember your ''name'', Davey! ''{hits head on keyboard again}'' Dear Strong Bad. ''{voice trailing off}'' How do you text with boxing gloves on?

== Easter Eggs ==

*When the Main page is encroaching on the top of the screen you can still click the [[Quote of the Week]], weekly [[Sketchbook]], and [[Weekly Fanstuff]] buttons to see them.
**If you hold tab until it highlights over where the updates are posted and hit enter, it takes you to [[Halloween Fairstival]].
**If you mouse over the Quote of the Week, it bounces around the screen until it gets lodged at the top. When you click "Hear it," a pixelated broom scrolls vertically along the screen and makes a loud distorted noise, the same as is heard by Marzipan moments later and some of the links disappear off the bottom of the screen. When you click the "X" to close it, the Quote of the Week box wobbles a bit and then falls off the screen and the links reappear.
***This happens because the SWF file for virus's fake QOD (qod_virus.swf) has black bars at the bottom, right where those words are, so when it appears in the email, it covers up those words.
**If you click on Weekly Fanstuff, it leads to a glitched fanstuff box, where there is a picture of Coach Z upside down with his arms and legs wrapped around a white space the shape of The King of Town's head. This image is from [[Where's The Cheat?]], when Coach Z attacked The King over a misunderstanding involving The Cheat and [[The King of Town's Grill|a grill]]. The picture has a lot of numbers at the bottom. Scroll over the close button, which is misspelled as OCⓧSLE, and the words 'A BOOK' appear in green.
***The numbers are in a font called "MS Reference Specialty" and spell out the phrase "stick to your books" (possibly—since the letters a–h in MS Reference Specialty are represented by little squares).
**If you click on the Sketchbook, it leads to a glitched sketchbook box, where the Flash MX color mixer appears. Scroll over it and a green X appears overtop. Clicking it causes it to close. Allowing it to remain on-screen causes a screen glitch—a black box appears over the left side of the screen when the screen moves off of the center of the page.
***The reason for the glitch is because in the .swf file of the glitched up sketchbook, there is a black box to the left of the screen, which, of course, covers up the screen on the left.
*If you click on the cog on the left at the end of the e-mail, you can see Compy 386 on sale at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], with signs reading "Like Used!" and "Slightly Shotgunned!"
*If you click on the fan on the right, you can see an excerpt of the original [[Cheat Commandos (toon)|Cheat Commandos]] toon, but with Fightgar using Homestar's leg as a gun.
:'''NARRATOR:''' To protect the world from the evil forces of Blue Laser!

== Fun Facts ==
=== Explanations ===
*The [[Wikipedia:Quadratic equation#Quadratic formula|quadratic formula]] is an algebraic equation used to determine the roots of a [[Wikipedia:Quadratic equation|quadratic equation]].

=== Trivia ===
*This is the only email in which the [[HR:main_nav.swf|navbar]] and the email are combined into one Flash file (so that Homestar can grab the words). When the [[Random Toon|random toon]] link ("rando") was added to the navbar, The Brothers Chaps forgot or chose not to update this page.
*The broken JPEG is used in the Netscape family of web browsers, including [[Wikipedia:Netscape Navigator|Netscape Navigator]], [[Wikipedia:Mozilla|Mozilla]], and [[Wikipedia:Mozilla Firefox|Mozilla Firefox]].
*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container reads "[[Floppy Disk Container#spy vs spy|spy vs spy]]".

=== Remarks ===
*Edgar the Virus Hunter is said to have been written in 1982, a year before the first documented experimental virus was created. Although there are conflicting accounts as to when the first virus was made, it would pretty much be impossible for a virus scanner to have existed in 1982.
*Strong Bad's head is larger than normal (but not his wrestling mask) while he is talking to Strong Sad. It reverts back to normal when he runs for The Cheat, but then regresses back to the larger head once he enters into the black.
*The letters that make up ASCII Marzipan refer to parts of her body: "E" for eyes, "f" for face, "h" for hair, and "d" for dress.
*Strong Bad says that Edgar from the [[Edgarware]] program is his "main man." However, he claims in "[[2 years]]" that his main man "is, and has been since [[1987]], Van Mundegaarde."
*The reason the "making out with Marzipan" pop-up doesn't come up in the .swf, or Flash, version is because the information for the pop-up is stored in the HTML source code. All that the Flash file does is to send a JavaScript command to the browser, opening the pop-up window.
*In the Fake QOD, the words "Quote of the Day (Or So)" are displayed reversed, as though in a mirror, and, instead of "Hear It!" and "Get It!", the buttons are "Hear It!" and "Don't TAPE It", although the latter is hidden by the top of the screen.
**If you view the Flash file directly and hover over "Don't TAPE It", the button changes to "Don't TAKE It".
*This is the second e-mail made using the Widescreen technique. The first was [[flashback]].
*If you click "main" on the navigation bar, it takes you to [[404'd]]. The address is http://www.homestarrunner.com/mainNaN.html. NaN is the computer term for Not a Number, which is obtained in some environments by dividing zero by zero, and/or other mathematical errors.
*When the fake popups appear followed by the real one, the fake ones look similar to the windows from some of the older Windows operating systems. Depending on which visual theme or version of Windows you are running, the real popup looks quite different from the fake ones. This is more pronounced when viewed on Windows ME, Windows 2000 and especially Windows XP. Windows 98 users will see no obvious difference.

=== Goofs ===
*While the liquid is leaking out of the screen, the contrast buttons are still clickable.
*After Homestar grabs "downloads", "characters", and "games" from the bottom, "toons" is no longer clickable, unlike the other remaining links. Then, at the end of the email when everything else returns to normal, all the links disappear.
*The fake QOD, fanstuff, and sketchbook stay on the screen until you get rid of them, even after Bubs shotguns the Compy, and in the Easter eggs.
*After Strong Bad types "deleted!" for the first time, and the blue screen appears, the drive letter disappears.
*The links between "toons" and "contact" disappear while the Quote of the Day Easter egg is active.
*Most shotguns spread out from the barrel, whereas the blast from Bub's shotgun seems to narrow down as it reaches the back wall.
*When Strong bad runs away from Bubs and The Cheat at the end his legs are missing in the flash file.

=== Inside References ===

*This is an extreme instance of [[Strong Bad's Computer Malfunctioning]].
*Strong Bad's response to the Flagrant System Error ("That's not a good prize!") comes from "[[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]".
*"Stave it off, 1, 2, 3..." is from the counting song in "[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]]".
*The card that Strong Sad transforms into is from the original deck of [[Character Cards]] that has since been removed from the site.
*The pixelated broom induced by the glitched Quote of the Day is the same graphic used in Peasant's Quest for the broom [[Baby Lady & Her Baby|the baby]] knocks over to let you into [[Naked Ned]]'s cottage.
**Using a broom to play Marzipan's ASCII noise may be an oblique reference to people mistaking her for a broom.
*"Making out with Marzipan is totally awesome" was once the phrase necessary to trigger the Strong Bad Talker from the [[Homestar Talker]]. (It has since been changed.) The sound clips for the words were also taken from the Homestar Talker. The first four words of the phrase are also heard in "[[The Cheat Theme Song]]".
*Strong Bad screaming and pounding on the edge of the screen while the popups are appearing could be a reference to [[Where the Crap Are We?]].
*Strong Mad's description, which appears when he glitches, comes from the [[Yearbook Character Page]], as does the picture of him inside a giant M.
*The sound effect that plays when The Ugly One appears is taken from [[RhinoFeeder]].
*[[The Ugly One]]'s line and the sound effects for her slapping the King of Town in the face come from [[crazy cartoon]]. (However, she slightly misquotes it: the original line was "I can do it! I ''will'' do it nine times.")
*The powering-down sound that plays just before Bubs walks across the screen is the same sound that plays just before the [[Tandy 400]] explodes in [[gimmicks]]
*As Bubs is walking across the screen the first time, his left and right arms are moving as if stuck in positons #4 and #5 (respectively) in the [[Dancin' Bubs]] game. Bubs' right arm is also about twice as large as usual.
*Bubs' broken JPEG mouth bears the letters "TH." This might be a reference to his other identity, [[The Thnikkaman]].
*During the final glitch scene (just before Bubs "fixes" the computer), the song playing in the background is the intro to "[[Parsnips-A-Plenty]]" and "[[That A Ghost]]".
*Strong Bad's line during the final glitch scene is taken directly from [[The Reddest Radish]].
*The cloud background during the final glitch scene is the same cloud background used in [[New Boots]].
[[Image:virusdthecheat.gif|thumb|Virus'd The Cheat]]
*During the final glitch scene, The Cheat is on a rotation of six different versions of himself:
:# The [[Awexome Cross]] version.
:# One that looks like one of The Cheat's styles from "[[The Cheat Theme Song]]".
:# A drawn version, from "[[The Reddest Radish]]".
:# Another drawn version from Strong Bad's site.
:# A far more pixellated version of him, with a thin black outline around it.
:# And a Cheat x-ing sign, much like the similar signs seen in the "fan stuff" part of the [[Museum]].
*The fan and cog in the Compy 386 are the same fan and cog that were visible when the Tandy 400 exploded.
**If you look closely (or zoom into the Flash file) the fan is once again mysteriously floating in space, just like when the Tandy 400 blew up.
*Bubs sells the [[Broken Compy Menu|broken Compy 386]] as he did with the [[King of Town Email|broken Tandy 400]].
*At the very end, Strong Bad mutters "[[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?|how do you text with boxing gloves on?]]", a question commonly asked in his emails.

=== Real-World References ===
*[[Wikipedia:Linux|"Linux"]] is a [[Wikipedia:Free software|Free]] [[Wikipedia:Unix|Unix-like]] [[Wikipedia:Kernel (computer science)|kernel]] originally written in 1991, or part of an entire operating system which uses this kernel ([[Wikipedia:GNU/Linux|"GNU/Linux"]]).
*[[Edgarware]] is a spoof of Norton Anti-Virus, which until 2001 used bespectacled computer nerd [[Wikipedia:Peter Norton|Peter Norton]] as a front man.
*The [[Floppy Disk Container]] on Strong Bad's desk is labeled "''Spy vs. Spy''" before it melts into the desk. ''[[Wikipedia:Spy vs. Spy|Spy vs. Spy]]'', based on the feature comic of [[Wikipedia:Mad Magazine|MAD Magazine]], was a game for old computers and the NES that featured innovative split screen gameplay.
*The part where Homestar is followed by "ghost" images of himself is a Flash in-joke, referring to the [[Wikipedia:Onion skinning|Onion skinning]] feature of the program that will display translucent images of previous frames as an animation guide.
*"Click on the monkey" refers to various [[Wikipedia:Pop-up ad|popups]] where if you click said object (ranging from targets to robbers, iPods, etc.), your computer will usually get bombarded with spyware, viruses, etc.
*The dance The Cheat performs when Strong Bad says, "Let's do a dance for the computer genius man," looks like [[Wikipedia:Dana Carvey|Dana Carvey]]'s "[[Wikipedia:Church Lady|Church Lady]]" dance from the classic SNL sketch.
*"[[Wikipedia:Bourgeoisie|Bourgeoise]]," one of the emoticons acting as Strong Sad's head is the term used in [[Wikipedia:Marxism|Marxism]] to describe the upper or middle class that opposed the [[Wikipedia:Proletariat|proletariat]] in the class struggle.
*The "ding" sound heard after EdgarWare finds the viruses is taken from some versions of [[Wikipedia:Microsoft Windows|Microsoft Windows]].
*The screen "It's now safe to turn your computer off." is similar to the one displayed when shutting down a Windows computer that cannot turn itself off. The actual message is "It is now safe to turn off your computer", and the style of this message is taken from Windows 95 through 98.
*"A wise guy, eh?" was frequently muttered by [[Wikipedia:Moe Howard|Moe Howard]] of the comedy group [[Wikipedia:The Three Stooges|The Three Stooges]].

== DVD Version ==
*The central pop-up (e.g. the one that would actually pop up on the website version) does not appear.
*Unlike all other DVD emails, this has the [[HR:main_nav.swf|navbar]] on the bottom.
*The way the Quote of the Week, Sketchbook, and Weekly Fanstuff easter eggs work has changed. All three are combined into one easter egg, which goes to the Weekly Fanstuff easter egg, then the Quote of the Week easter egg, and finally the Sketchbook easter egg.
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]], [[Homestar Runner]])

'''MIKE:''' This email looks tiny, Matt.

'''MATT:''' It's a funny shape.

'''MIKE:''' It's smaller than the rest, and there's little words at the bottom.

'''MATT:''' This doesn't make any sense to me!

'''MIKE:''' What's going on?

'''MATT:''' S— Oh, no. Strong Bad must have gotten some type of a wirus!

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Virus.

'''MATT:''' B— Pardon?

'''MIKE:''' Virus?

'''MATT:''' Oh. I used the German pronunciation.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah?

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' K. Um, so this was, uh, this was a— this email was kind of a big— big production.

'''MATT:''' Mm hmm.

'''MIKE:''' Took longer than most.

'''MATT:''' A long time in coming.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. Um...

'''MATT:''' Yeah, see— he hasn't used "deleted" on the Lappy yet, now that he has a new computer, has he?

'''MIKE:''' I guess not. I wonder what it looks like when he deletes something on the Lappy.

'''MATT:''' I dunno. "Drop a train on 'em" was from a bad hip-hop song I made in college — ''{Mike laughs}''— where I sampled the soundtrack from a Dirty Harry movie.

'''MIKE:''' That's a good song.

'''MATT:''' Thanks.

''{Pause}''

'''MIKE:''' So this, obviously, was, uh, pretty fun to make where you could just kinda put stuff wherever and just...

'''MATT:''' It's more like ''your'' computer is getting the virus than Strong Bad's computer getting the virus.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. The whole world is getting the virus.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. "Stave it off, 1, 2, 3" up there at the top.

'''MIKE:''' Mm hmm. There's uh, Strong Sad's head is the, uh, his little emoticons from the uh, his—

'''MATT:''' Strong Sad's Web journal.

'''MIKE:''' Strong Sad Journal.

'''MATT:''' That was from an unused character page we never made.

'''MIKE:''' Mm hmm.

''{Pause}''

'''MIKE:''' Say something good, Matt.

'''MATT:''' Uh—

'''MIKE:''' Make it— Make it funny.

'''MATT:''' All right. ''{adopts different tone}'' T— To— ''{normal voice}'' Oh, yeah, weren't we gonna do— I was going to be a character when we did this commentary.

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah. Start doing Homestar.

'''MATT:''' All right...

''{Pause}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' That was a lot of me's.

'''MIKE:''' That ''was'' a lot of you's.

'''HOMESTAR:''' Mike, some of them were old me's that don't look so great.

'''MIKE:''' That's right. I thought you looked pretty good back in the old days.

'''HOMESTAR:''' No, no.

'''MIKE:''' Oh, you—

'''HOMESTAR:''' Look bad.

'''MIKE:''' Look Bad!

'''HOMESTAR:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Strong Bad.

'''HOMESTAR:''' That's a different character.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Who was Look Bad again?

'''HOMESTAR:''' Oh, what are they doing there? Is he gonna eat that doo-doo shovel?

'''MIKE:''' No, I think was going to take a picture of it, maybe.

'''HOMESTAR:''' But he doesn't have a camera, Mike.

'''MIKE:''' But the camera was offscreen.

'''HOMESTAR:''' He's got a mustache.

'''MIKE:''' The camera was offscreen.

'''HOMESTAR:''' He clearly wanted... a doo-doo-stache.

'''MIKE:''' Who's that, Homestar?

'''HOMESTAR:''' That looks kinda like Bubs, from Website. But I don't think so. Oh, look, it's ''Pitfall''.

'''MIKE:''' That did happen in ''Pitfall''.

'''HOMESTAR:''' If you flick the on and off switch a lot, you get a little floating Pitfall Harry through the trees!

'''MIKE:''' Oh, I like The Cheat's little sassy dance there, Homestar. Did you teach him that?

'''HOMESTAR:''' I did. Hands on hips!

'''MIKE:''' How'd you teach him that?

'''HOMESTAR:''' I said, "Hands on hips!"

'''MIKE:''' Look, there's your leg.

'''HOMESTAR:''' That is not my leg! That looks like a shotgun.

'''MIKE:''' Bu—

''{Pause}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' That shotgun looks dangerous, Mike. I don't agree with its appearance in this cartoon.

'''MIKE:''' You shouldn't play with shotguns, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR:''' I don't, man.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' Good.

'''HOMESTAR:''' Did you learn that the hard way?

'''MIKE:''' No.

'''HOMESTAR:''' Penny Hardaway?

'''MIKE:''' I'm allowed to— I'm allowed to draw them, though. Drawing them's no problem.

'''HOMESTAR:''' Drawing them is bad.

'''MIKE:''' No, I think it's okay.

'''HOMESTAR:''' Here I come!

'''MIKE:''' See?

'''HOMESTAR:''' Look! I lost my leg!

'''MIKE:''' I know, that's— Bubs— Bubs has it there.

'''HOMESTAR:''' Strong Bad looks like he's a little delirious in this part.

'''MIKE:''' He's— He's sad. He's had a great loss. People sometimes act like this... when they're experiencing great losses.

'''HOMESTAR:''' But— Mike, a great loss sounds like a contradiction.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}''

'''HOMESTAR:''' I don't— I've never had any ''great'' losses.

'''MIKE:''' "Great"— "Great" meaning "large," not meaning—

'''HOMESTAR:''' All my losses are bad losses.

'''MIKE:''' You've never had a great loss?

'''HOMESTAR:''' Except maybe, some pounds. ''{Pause}'' He just really put a hole right through that thing, huh?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. Didn't go through the wall, though.

'''HOMESTAR:''' Nope. ''{whispering}'' Let's get quiet.

'''MIKE:''' ''{whispering}'' Okay.

=== Fun Facts ===

* Matt says Strong Bad got a "wirus" and then calls this "the German pronunciation". This is because many native German speakers have difficulty distinguishing the "v" and "w" sounds in English and might thus say "wirus" instead of "virus".
* Homestar demonstrates his ignorance that he has [[Lack of Visible Arms|no visible hands or arms]].

== See Also ==
* [[Main Page 22]]

== External Links ==
{{sbemailextlinks|118|1284}}*[[HR:hsmakeout.html|view the "click the monkey" popup]]
*[[HR:hsmakeout.swf|view the Flash file for the "click the monkey" popup]]
*[[HR:qod_virus.swf|view the Flash file for the "fake QOD"]]
*[[HR:fanstuff_virus.swf|view the Flash file for the "fake fanstuff"]]
*[[HR:sketchbook_virus.swf|view the Flash file for the "fake sketchbook"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Powered by The Cheat]][[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

Talk:Podstar Runner

2006-02-21T07:59:35Z

Spell4yr: /* Descriptions */ br'd!!!

Talk:Podstar Runner

2006-02-21T07:58:44Z

Spell4yr: Descriptions

== Alt versions for podcast ==
On the DVD version of [[dragon]], the homsar easter egg is automatically enabled. They also did this on the new podcast version of the email. So, is there some place that we can note this on the page for that email? Should we create new an entirely new section for Podcast version on this page and all sbemails??? --[[User:Duke33|Duke33]] 17:25, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
: Probably, yeah. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:00, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== Haha... MINDREADERS! ==

I was thinking about H*R toons on iPods ''THIS MORNING''...!

== RSS Feed ==
Now all they need is an RSS feed so you can put this right in iTunes as a podcast and download it straight to the iPod.. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 18:25, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:Maybe a fan can create one. Y'know, like [http://interglacial.com/rss/homestar.html this one]. And no, I didn't mean that I would create one, either.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|S*R]] 19:08, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:I could certainly do it. I would just assume this would be something we'd want the Brothers Chaps to do themselves. In any case, I'll break out Notepad and have something up in a bit. :) --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 20:11, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

-I Created one that you can subscribe to here: [http://feeds.feedburner.com/podstartopod] The tags aren't all that great because I just created a category in Wordpress. But they're there and it works! Check it out - Brad Kovach

== XHTML 1.0 Transitional ==

First time I can remember a DOCTYPE being declared. Can anyone confirm? -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:54, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:It's a shame it [http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/ doesn't validate]. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 03:49, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

== Podstar links ==

I added a new interwiki-style link to our repertoire. To link to one of the podstar.homestarrunner.com files, simply preface it with "Podstar:" (for example: [[Podstar:sb_email_japanese_cartoon.m4v]]). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:58, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== Picture? ==

What's with this weird picture we got here? Is this photoshopped or what?--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 20:36, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:Nope, the picture is from the .m4v of [[techno]]. [http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/technofullscreen.png Here's] a screenshot of the scene in iTunes. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 20:57, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
::Why is the wiki logo different? -You know who!
:::I customized it. See [[User:Venusy/monobook.css|my monobook.css]], about 25 lines down. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 21:09, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
::::That was cool.--{{User:That is Truly an Apple/Sig}} 21:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Can somebody transcript any custom animation it contains, like this Strong Bad thing? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:33, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== Quality ==

Has anybody noticed that the M4V videos have a much higher sound quality than the Flash files? Might seem a bit unfair for the "normal Flashers" at first, but if someone was to import the Flash file (which, if possible, would give us a load of vectors and so a nearly unlimited possibility of resizing) and mix its video track with the audio track of the M4V video, they could actually get megalomanic resolutions and a sound quality that beats the Flash file on the site. Anybody up to the task to make a proof-of-concept, HDTV-compatible Strong Bad Email? As long as it stays a non-redistributed proof-of-concept, it shouldn't be illegal. <nowiki>~~</nowiki>[[User:RavuAlHemio|Ravu]] 21:20, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:Seems like a bit of a waste of time to me, but whatever. Anyway, in regard to your question: from what i've seen, it may not be as, ahem, "simple", as that. Most Flash decompiling programs manage to bugger up tweens etc as well as fonts. Then, on top of this, you usually need to fiddle with the .fla file you get at the end to get it to match up with the original .swf as mask layers etc often separate. Basically, it'd be some hassle.

Actually.. also its higher sound quality on the DVD's too so you could always just buy the dvds... [[User:24.185.119.106|24.185.119.106]] 01:12, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, you should buy the DVDs, because it supports TBC. By the way, I wouldn't spend any time on it, because it ''would'' end up being illegal since anything worth doing eventually ends up distributed. Even if it were legal, this talk page is not the place to solicit volunteers to work on it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:45, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Never wished to argue with that. Anyways, I was actually thinking about buying myself the Overkill Combo, but since it seems minors can't have credit cards over here in Austria, I'll have to put that off for the next few years (or ask somebody with a credit card). <nowiki>~~</nowiki>[[User:RavuAlHemio|Ravu]] 06:08, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:::It is illegal. I study copyright law in my free time, and it is illegal. Sorry to crush your hopes and dreams, {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:43, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Sound? Yeah, that's a good one. I can't get any sound at all. Not to mention, the video quality seriously sucks.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:02, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh man! I am a complete idiot. The sound was off. No matter, I can just use the ones already there.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 00:06, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Have they explicitly forbidden ''creating derivative works for the sole personal use by one single person'' now? If it isn't redistributed, I don't see where the problem lies. <nowiki>~~</nowiki>[[User:RavuAlHemio|Ravu]] 13:13, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Link on Site ==

Is there a link to this page on the actual site besides the recently updated on the homepages? Like in downloads or something? That's where it should be.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 22:27, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== MP4's ==

Hey, do you guys think there is any chance that they would release them on MP4 format so we (i) can watch them on Our (my) PlayStation Portable (PSP) System? either that, or is there some sort of Software or something that i could download so i could convert the M4V Files to MP4's?

-COLA

Since theyve done m4p's they'll probablyn eventually do ones for the PSP. As for converting.. i have no clue lol. [[User:24.185.119.106|24.185.119.106]] 01:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

yes they work on the psp- [[HRFWiki:User:Freezestar|Freezestar]]

No, they dont. i checked it out, i even upgraded my Bloody psp, didnt work, and all my movies that i had on it couldnt be played. great job, Sony.

-COLA

They don't work on the PSP. The videos available from the Podstar Runner page are encoded using H.264, and not MPEG-4. While giving it a better file size and reasonable video quality, it makes it incompatible with the PSP. --[[User:TuqueeLukee|Tuquee]] 06:55, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Use PSPVideo9 to transcode the .M4v files. -CujoSR

[[Wikipedia:mencoder|mencoder]] sb_email_techno.m4v -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=896 -oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3:br=128 -o sb_email_techno.mp4
Let me know how that works for you, I'm not sure exactly what a PSP expects. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:10, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

== WMP? ==

do these files play on windows media player? (Or are they convertable to VuGo format?)--{{User:Benol/sig}} 01:09, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:: They are in H.264 video with AAC audio. I think there are codecs you can get for those for WMP. [[User:Person Man|Person Man]] 02:01, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==Unfocused Floppy==
[[Image:Floppy podcast background.png|thumb|discoveries of the deep?]]
So uh... Anybody figure out what the floppy is labled, the one that the iPod is resting against? All you... Decompilers or just those with good eyesight? And intuition? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:57, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think the floppy says: ''Something'' of the ''Something''. It's just too faded.--{{User:Benol/sig}} 02:09, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, I searched Moby games for a DOS title with "of the" in it, and of around 250 results, the most likely canditate I could find was "discoveries of the deep". Does that look plausible to anybody? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:36, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Definitely looks plausible. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 01:11, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Ditto that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::I added info for Discoveries of the Deep to the [[Floppy Disk Container]] article. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 19:31, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's iPod? I think not. ==

That is not Strong Sad's iPod in the background, as stated on the wiki. It appears to be at least a 4G iPod, but its shape (especially the screen) is closer to that of the 5G iPod. Look at it--it has the gray clickwheel characteristic of 4G+ iPods. Strong Sad's is first- or second-generation. -[[User:Bruce|Bruce]]

:It doesn't look exactly like Strong Sad's iPod from the picture, but it is blurry, so details might not have been put in. Other times that this happens is when you see a zoomed-out picture of the Compy, and you cannot see the dial. Lets just see what others put in as well and then we will make final decisions. -[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 04:52, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

::Whoops. Didn't sign that last message--fixed. Anyway, here's the thing. The blur would make it hard to decide, except for the scroll-wheel. Notice it's gray. Strong Sad's iPod, as seen so far, has had a white scroll-wheel. The blur filter may obscure details, but it's not going to change the colors of anything. -[[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 05:04, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:::The width of the screen appears to be wider than Strong Sad's iPod, but quite like a video iPod.

::::The enlarged screen size and trademarked click wheel give it away that this iPod was designed to be a 5G iPod. However, note the headphone jack is plugged into the middle of the top of the iPod. That characteristic is not true with 5G iPods, which have the jack on the far right of the top. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:35, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::Well, let's think about this for a minute. Who else in the Brothers Strong house (or anywhere else in FCUSA for that matter) owns an iPod? Mabye Strong Sad upgraded to a newer version or something. I agree, it's not the same one that we've seen before, but no one else has an iPod, so in my opinion, it ''has'' to be Strong Sad's. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:50, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

::::::I concur. Is this already noted on the item's article, or have we yet to add it? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:31, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

::::::I thought the same exact thing as Has Matt? but I forgot to mention it. Who else would have an ipod? I think so far its Strong Sads, unless maybe in the future it is revealed that maybe Strong Bad got one or something.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 21:55, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::Strong Bad with an iPod? Strong Bad thinks that flashlights are "the future of technology". {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:25, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::: Maybe the Cheat bought an iPod... I mean, we already know he likes Apple :P

== Original Name ==

Since they changed the name from Strong Bad video podcasts, I think we should mention it in trivia.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 22:00, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:So... mention it. :) I'd do it but I haven't kept up with this page closely enough to know for sure what you're talking about. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:22, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==What do I have to do?==
What do I have to do to make Strong Bad pop up? I says wait a second after the email, what email it doesn't play any email. {{User:Bassium!/sig}}

:Please be more specific. After every Strong Bad Email featured, a short clip of Strong Bad should appear. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 23:46, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh, so you have to download the emails to watch the clips and stuff, well in that case nevermind. {{User:Bassium!/sig}}

== PSP...rar ==

I could help with the PSP and iPod video conversion

:I don't believe that creating PSP files for distribution would fall under [[Wikipedia:Fair use|fair use]] laws. Thanks for offering, though. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 15:44, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

::While distribution of alternate versions would be illegal, converting it yourself to another format and playing it on your PSP would be considered fair use. Since the videos don't have DRM, they are not covered by the DMCA and the fair use exception can apply.
:::Creating a instructions to convert or a program that will do the converting would be fine (assuming you don't charge for it or anything). --[[User:SirNuke|SirNuke]] 01:22, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

::::This may be true, but ''I'' don't believe it falls under fair use. Just me. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 19:11, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Requires Quicktime? ==

Below external links it says that either iTunes or Quicktime is required to play these, but I must disagree. All that's needed is a player that can support the MOV file format, H264 decoding, and AAC decoding. The videos all play back perfectly on my computer without any sort of Apple "adware" installed. And it says that Quicktime version 6.0 is required, but I don't think that 6.0 can play H264 video. --[[User:Taku42|Taku42]] 21:07, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

:It can play H263, however. As for other programs, Quicktime and iTunes are the only two official programs that fully support and write .mov format. If you know of another that's as good as either of these, however, please say so. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:11, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

::[[Wikipedia:MPlayer|MPlayer]] (the almighty) has no problems. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:26, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

::The VideoLan Client ([http://www.videolan.org/vlc/]) works really well. Which is a bit odd since VLC often has trouble with newer Quicktime files.--[[User:SirNuke|SirNuke]] 01:06, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

They may mean Quicktime 7, which I believe is the minimum requirement for iTMS videos.

Anonymous.

Also, video is only supported in iTunes 6.0 and up, podcasts from version 4.9. So regarding either capability, the iTunes version in the article is incorrect. [[User:68.239.131.197|68.239.131.197]] 01:24, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Brothers Chaps helped! wooh ==

I got a email, from them after i emailed them.

Quicktime Pro can convert a .m4v file to an .mp4 file or any other format for that matter. Just open the file up in Quicktime and choose Export to put it in whatever format you need, this way you shouldn't have a problem getting it onto you PSP.

Brothers Chaps

On Jan 31, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Beep wrote:

Hello, i noticed that you just put up Podstar Runner, for the iPod, well, is it possible that you could do a different version, for the PSP? PSP uses the .mp4 files.

Thank You.

So...Wooh! --[[User:Jetamoo|Coach J]] 18:53, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

The psp needs a thumbnail file too so just converting it to mp4 won't work (I've tried). [http://www.pspvideo9.com/ PSP video 9]is the easiest way, it creates a thumbnail file automatically. Get a big memory stick too, videos eat up space fast.

== RSS feed oddities ==
I removed them from the article, because the odd things in the RSS feed (copyright tag, link tag) are because TBC copied the RSS example from [http://www.podcastx.com/articles/26/1/How-To-Publish-a-Podcast-on-the-iTunes-Music-Store Apple's website]. I have emailed TBC about the tags, too. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 00:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

==¿Qué está el problema?==

I downloaded the latest versions of quicktime and iTunes and these files won't run on my computer no matter what I try! The podcast won't even download, it keeps showing the same error! Is it because my comp uses windows? Does my computer hate me?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 05:23, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:Can't help you with the podcast. That's really too bad. :( But I can help you in other ways. Que and esta need é and á, and it's ''el'' problema. Tricky Spanish, eh? But sorry about the errors, and sorry that I'm no expert in iPods. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 05:36, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

::I don't even have an iPod, I just want to watch them on my comp so I can hear this so called "better sound quality".--{{User:Benol/sig}} 12:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Today's top podcast! ==

Strong Bad Email is currently "Today's Top Podcast" in the iTunes Music store! {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:32, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:Get a screenshot while it lasts. =) It might come in useful. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Here's the screenshots:
:<gallery>
Image:Podstar Top Podcast.png|<center>Top Podcast</center>
Image:Podstar New & Notable.png|<center>New & Notable</center>
</gallery>
:I'm not sure if these should go on the page or not, though. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 06:43, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

==Descriptions==

I'm not sure if this can go anywhere on the page, but I figured I'd list the descriptions within iTunes for the episodes.

techno -- Some bozo asks about techno music.
japanese cartoon -- Strong Bad makes up his own japanese cartoon.
dragon -- Strong Bad starts a bad drawing revolution.
kids book -- Strong Bad seriously defaces a children's book.
crying -- Strong Bad seriously defaces a children's book. (whoops on their part, apparently)
bottom 10 -- From the home office in Scotsdale, AZ...
caffeine -- Strong Sad gets caffeinated.
virus -- A virus wreaks havoc on the Compy.

I wasn't exactly sure where to put this, but I figured it should at least be listed somewhere around here, so here it is. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 07:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Strong Bad's (Mis)use of English

2006-02-21T06:59:48Z

Spell4yr: /* Strong Bad's Mistakes */ adding four year-old

Though [[Strong Bad]] is quite obsessive about everyone's [[Spelling|grammar and punctuation]], he still makes some of the same mistakes himself. Everything from missing puncuation marks to made-up words to the occasional blatant spelling error grace the pages of his [[Strong Bad Email|emails]].

== Strong Bad's Mistakes ==

*[[some kinda robot]] - In his very first email, Strong Bad misspells "before you go to bed" as "before you ''got'' to bed."
*[[i love you]] - ''Fhqwhgads'' is misspelled as ''Fhqwgads'', missing the h in between w and g. This is ironic because Strong Bad [[sibbie|later]] complains about people misspelling it in emails.
*[[i she be]] - Strong Bad types the phrase "all i gotta say..." The ''i'' isn't capitalized.
*[[duck pond]] - Strong Bad misspells ''unfortunately'' as ''unfortunatley''.
*[[band names]] - A space is added before, rather than after, a comma in this email: ''"the easiest way is to ,you know..."''
*[[dullard]] - Strong Bad incorrectly uses the one-word adjective ''everyday'' instead of the two-word adverb ''every day''.
*[[techno]] - Strong Bad uses the possessive form of its instead of it's in the statement, "well, its not really my style." He later lionizes Dan D. in [[local news]] for the same mistake.
*[[dragon]] - After demonstrating how to draw Trogdor, Strong Bad says, "Let's see how the other students are doing." However, when he types it, he omits the word ''see''.
*[[the show]] - Not only does Strong Bad miss a question mark in this email (''"And what's with that flying mushroom he's always advertizing for."''), he also neglects to capitalize The Cheat's name (as ''the cheat''), and later the ''The'' in The Cheat's name.
*[[funny]] - Strong Bad misspells the filename of his email client, strongbad_email.exe, at the beginning of the email as stongbad_email.exe.
*[[the process]] - After stating that he makes fun of people's poor grammar and spelling, Strong Bad promptly misspells the word ''occasionally'' as ''occassionally.''
*[[lackey]] - Strong Bad misspells ''Pom Pom'' as ''Pom-Pom''; the hyphen isn't necessary.
*[[monument]] - After explaining that he was distracted by the Thnikkaman, Strong Bad omits a period: "So you can see why I got distracted".
*[[pom pom]] - Strong Bad makes a spelling error in his letter to "General and Fraulein Pom Pom." ''Fräulein'' should be written with the [[Wiki:umlaut|umlaut]] over the "a" as shown. It is also politically incorrect to use ''Fräulein'' in modern Germany, but the term used to mean "young woman." He is wrong to use it in either case and should have used ''Frau'' instead. Strong Bad is obviously not fluent in German.
*[[pizzaz]] - Of the accepted spellings of this email's title, none are used in this email. Correct spellings include ''pizazz'' and ''pizzazz''. Strong Bad not only misses this, he even adopts the misspelling throughout in a very uncharacteristic move.
*[[time capsule]] - Strong Bad types "your hot single Mom" at one point. In this situation, after the posessive "your," mom doesn't need to be capitalized.
*[[part-time job]] - Strong Bad misses a question mark at the beginning; "What do you mean do I do anything else besides checking e-mails."
*[[origins]] - Curiously, Strong Bad misspells curiosity as ''curiousity''.
*[[rampage]] - Strong Bad stresses the importance of the "M.L.A. handbook." However, the actual MLA doesn't use periods in its abbreviation.
*[[garage sale]] - Continuing his bad grammar on moms everywhere, Strong Bad types "the only joke Moms have." ''Moms'' shouldn't be capitalized in this instance.
*[[bottom 10]] - Though it is spelled properly in the bottom 10 list, the word ''chocolate'' appears as ''chocloate'' on Strong Bad's monitor at the end of the email.
*[[portrait]] - Strong Bad misplaces a period. "Guess what? Nobody calls you Coolio da Fabio (aka quit making up nicknames for yourself.)" The period should be outside the parentheses, but Strong Bad puts it inside.
*[[secret identity]] - When Strong Bad asks "have you ever seen The Poopsmith and I...", it should be "The Poopsmith and ''me''".
*[[pop-up]] - Strong Bad types "four year-old." As an adjective for the implied noun "child," it should be written "four-year-old."

== Strong Bad's Made-up Words and Phrases ==
*[[guitar]] - Strong Bad refers to ''trembalos'', which is a mangling of ''[[Wikipedia:tremolo|tremolo]]'', a rapid repetition of the same note, or an alternation between two or more notes.
*[[dragon]] - Strong Bad invents ''burninator'', ''burninate'', and ''burninating'' in order to describe his dragon, [[Trogdor]].
*[[crazy cartoon]] - Strong Bad uses the contraction ''I'ma'', a combination of ''I'm'' and ''gonna'' which is a [[Wikipedia:List of slang used in hip-hop music|hip-hop slang term]]. [[Coach Z]] later says this in [[flashback]].
*[[suntan]] - Strong Bad says that the "Ab-Abber" can make him a ''thousandaire''... or, at least, a ''hundredaire''. He also creates the phrase ''all up ons''.
*[[local news]] - Strong Mad's subtitle, written on an [[Index Cards|index card]], reads "''Sportscarster'' Strong Mad." Strong Bad seems to be the culprit of this misspelling because (A) he threw together the news broadcast and (B) it's his handwriting, as seen in [[dragon]].
*[[kind of cool]] - Strong Bad uses the word ''anyways'', an unnecessary plural of ''anyway''.
*[[lackey]] - Three words coalesce into one in this email: ''Some the times'' becomes ''somethetimes''.
*[[monument]] - Strong Bad refers to the [[Stop Sign]] as having "all the ''rightness'' of a foot without all the ''footdom'' of a right."
*[[car]] - Using a figure of speech called [[Wikipedia:tmesis|tmesis]], Strong Bad inserts ''dang'' into the word ''anyway'' to make ''anydangway''.
*[[lunch special]] - Strong Bad changes the email "someone" sent to him to end with "Keep on ''tranglin''".
*[[haircut]] - ''Barbzerdry'', a [[Wikipedia:Portmanteau|portmanteau]] of ''barber'' and ''wizardry''
*[[theme park]] - In describing the mascots for [[Strong Bad's Mount RidesPlace USA]], Strong Bad turns a noun into a verb: ''antic-ing''.
*[[time capsule]] - Strong Bad creates the word ''coolty'' to describe something the people of the future definitely won't doubt about him.
*[[animal]] - The deep sea ''fanglyfish'' is another new invention of Strong Bad's, both literally and physically.
*[[part-time job]] - Strong Bad refers to himself as a ''hundredaire socialite''. ("Hundredaire" was repeated from suntan.)
*[[secret recipes]] - In order to cover up the fact that Strong Bad has a recipe for cooking The Cheat, he invents the countries/cities of ''Bumdumbourge'' and ''Totalslava''. The Cheat, as evidenced by his later [[Wrestleman|reading choices]], doesn't buy it.
*[[best thing]] - Strong Bad claims to be doing ''rrll rrll'' well in this email. This apparantly has the same meaning as ''real real'' well, just with no vowels and twice the consonants akin to [[Wikipedia:Grrl|grrl]].
*[[do over]] - The return of ''anydangway'', a word Strong Bad used in [[car]].
*[[modeling]] - Strong Bad wants to advertise a product called ''Colognac'' (pronnounced Coe-lone-yak). This is a combination of ''cologne'', or men's fragrance, and ''cognac'', a type of distilled liquor.
*[[bedtime story]] - The words ''dadbysitter'', ''grodalated'' and ''gewd'' are coined in this email.
*[[portrait]] - ''Onwardly'', possibly an adverb form of onward.
*[[highschool]] - Strong Bad greets Patrick, the sender of the email, with ''cowichewa''.
*[[death metal]] - The words ''extracurriculariffic'' and ''geographist'' are coined in this email. (The correct word for ''geographist'' is ''geographer''.)
*[[technology]] - Strong Bad refers to Pom Pom's ''Tellular Cellaphone'' in this email.
*[[pop-up]] - Strong Bad refers to a tab on his "fleshtangle".

==See Also==
*[[Spelling]]

[[Category:Lists|Lists]]
[[Category:Strong Bad Email]]

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2006-02-21T06:51:57Z

Spell4yr: /* Transcript */ adding sic since, as a noun, it should be four-year-old. I don't know if it constitutes a goof, though.

{{sbenav|146|myths & legends|some kinda robot}}
[[Image:sbemail146.PNG|thumb|right|It was the book of my dreeeeams!]]
Strong Bad shows us his own Strong Bad pop-up book.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Gavin}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[The Tire]], {{Film|Strong Sad}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Bubs}} (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' February 20, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 3:11

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{rapping}'' I was born to check emails and eat lots of cake!

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: dream book</div>
Dear Strong Bad, 
I had a dream that my friend had a Strong Bad 
pop-up book. It was the book of my dreams. 
Kat 
Spokane, Wash.
</blockquote>

''{After reading the email once, Strong Bad repeats it in rap twice. He says "Wash." as the word "wash".}'' 

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises from offscreen}''

''{Cut back to show The Cheat next to his keyboard}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, all right. One more time.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{approving The Cheat noises}''

''{Strong Bad jumps on his stool and dances as The Cheat plays on his keyboard.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{rapping}'' I had a dream that my friend had a Strong Bad pop-up book! It was the book of my dreeeams! ''{on "dreams", he jumps up and nearly hits the ceiling}'' There you go, little one. Now get back in there and win me a car!

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{affirmatory The Cheat noises; he rushes off.}''

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' You know, I feel like that sentence could really apply to anything. ''{moves the cursor up to "pop-up book" and replaces it with "salad".}'' Like, uh, "I had a dream that my friend had a Strong Bad salad. ''{scrolls over toward the other "book" and replaces it with "salad" as well.}'' It was the salad of my dreams." Or maybe like, ''{adds "taco" before each "salad"}'' "I had a dream that my friend had a Strong Bad taco salad. It was the taco salad of my dreams." ''{moves the cursor below the email, types}'' Anyways, a Strong Bad pop-up book. This sounds like a job for: makin' stuff up.

''{Cut to an image of a pop-up book. The inside cover reads "From the libarry [sic] of D. Squirrel" with a dead squirrel drawn in. The inside cover reads "STRONG BAD'S POP-UP BOOK of your dreams by Strong Bad, for Strong Bad".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' The Strong Bad pop-up book would obviously feature...

''{The page turns to show Strong Bad near two cherubs. The text reads "This is a good kid." A tab is seen under Strong Bad's head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...me hangin' out with some of those wingaling babies! ''{The cherubs bob up and down}'' And I'd have a little tab on my flesh-tangle so you could make me talk! ''{As the pop-up Strong Bad, who waves his arms}'' You little almost-naked babies are so cute, I could just dip you in beer batter and fry you right up! ''{As the cherubs, who bob up and down}'' Okay, Mr. Strong Bad! ''{as himself}'' Oh! And don't forget the ab-tab!

''{The tab moves over and Strong Bad's chest obtains Sharpie abs. The page turns to reveal an image of the Tandy reading "HOW TYPE BOX GLOVES?" Two tabs are seen, one to the right of the screen and one on the keyboard. A speaker can also be seen on the keyboard.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey look! It's my crappy old computer! Asking the same crappy old questions!

''{The tab on the screen moves and the screen changes to "DELETED!!"}''

'''SPEAKER:''' ''{very indistinctly}'' Deleted!

'''STRONG BAD:''' The lake head? What does that mean?

''{The tab goes back, taking the screen with it, and changes to "DELETED!!" again.}''

'''SPEAKER:''' Deleted!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Police quest?! This thing is obviously broken.

''{The other tab is pulled, and smoke appears above the computer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' No wonder I got rid of that old buncha beige.

''{The page turns. Strong Sad is seen covered in cement. A forklift and Strong Bad in a construction outfit are seen in the background. The text reads "Strong Sad is covered in Gray cement" with "Gray cement" in a box. A turning wheel is seen on the right, and another tab is seen at the bottom.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, look! Strong Sad has wandered onto my construction site. What sweet fate did I bestow on him from the cement mixer? ''{The wheel turns, the liquid on Strong Sad turns red, and the box reads "Ram's blood".}'' Ram's blood? ''{The wheel turns, the color becomes light yellow, and the box reads "Boston Cream".}'' Boston cream? ''{Again, to a transitional color and "Magic Eye".}'' Magic Eye? Don't forget the flab-tab! ''{The tab is pulled out, and Strong Sad's upper body flips down to make him look flabbier.}''

''{The page turns to a "NegativeZero" fridge. It has a sticky note on it that reads "2 more eggs!"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The next page is snack time! What am I gonna have to eat today?

''{The door opens to reveal a single burger patty with two pickle slices on it. A carton of "mmmilk", two eggs, a small paper box, a bottle of "pop!", and a jar of mayo are drawn onto the back.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! A real-live burger! Do I get one of these every time I turn the page?!

''{The page turns back to the last one, and then to the fridge again. When the door opens this time, there are two burgers inside.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! ''Two'' burgers! ''{Gavin appears from under a flap and crawls around a little}'' Clearly, this pop-up book is a source of unspeakable power.

''{Spooky music is heard. The page turns to Homestar Runner's image, which has a black eye and two saws stuck through him.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Why look. It's the Homestar Runner! Bye, the Homestar Runner!

''{The page turns to extremely cartoony images of Strong Bad and The Cheat in front of a cave. The sun can be seen overhead, and there's a tree in front of the cave. There's a tab above the cave and one at the bottom of the page.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{rapidly decreasing volume}'' SeeyalaterStrongBaaa...

''{The rays of the sun move.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh-oh! It looks like The Cheato Bandito has stolen all of Senor Muybueno's gold!

''{The tree flips down, revealing a pile of gold underneath.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Let's help him get some Cheatsabution.

''{The lower tab is pulled and pushed back several times, and as it does, "Strong Bad"'s foot rises and The Cheat moves upward.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Boot 'em up, boot 'em up, boot 'em up, yoooooo. This is like kicking The Cheat light! All of the flavor, with only half the chance of rabies!

''{The upper tab is pulled, and a bear pokes down in the cave. The tree goes back to normal, and the page turns. Strong Bad's head, with flashing lights for eyes, is in the center. Two towers with ropes between them, and The Tire hanging from them, is in the upper-left, with a sliding tab below it. A "Cold One" is seen to the right of that, with a turn wheel above it. Near it is the BMW Lighter, with a pull tab to its right. A box is in the lower right. A cherub over a "FAT FRYER" is in the lower right, with a tab to its left. In the background, it reads "Slide! Spin! Grasp! Pull! His Head! Tap the flabs! Pull!!!" near each object.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And the last page would be a veritable cornucop-pourri of pop-up mastery!

''{The various objects all move. The Tire simply falls off its wires. The Cold One has its label replaced over and over. The BMW opens up with a flame, and closes. The box flips over, revealing the same box tipped the other way. The cherub moves into and out of the fryer.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' There'd be tabs and flaps, flabs and taps, a string thing that doesn't work, and some more sound chips and dips.

'''SPEAKER:''' Holy crap!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Sounds like they improved on the technology since page 2! Aaaaaand, don't forget the crap-flap!

''{A flap turns down with a pile of whatsit underneath. Cut back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So now the pop-up book is primed and ready for the four year-old, or The Cheat, in your life to use as a tissue! That thing'll provide seconds of non-ripped apart fun! Speaking of seconds, I'm gonna go eat my burgers.

''{He leaves. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
* Click ''Kat Spokane, Wash.'' after Strong Bad raps for The Cheat to reveal a book entitled ''"Cat," spoke Anne, "Wash!"''.
* Click on the pop-up Tandy 400 after Strong Bad says "The Lake Head" to see a comparison between Strong Sad's head and [[Wikipedia:Manicouagan_Reservoir|Manicouagan Reservoir]] in Quebec, a circular lake formed by a meteor impact in the late Triassic.
* Click ''The Cheat'' to see a clip of The Cheat, Strong Sad and Bubs playing dominoes
:'''STRONG SAD:''' Ugh, The Cheat wins again. Pay up.

:'''BUBS:''' Well, she's all yours! ''{He hands The Cheat a car key. The Cheat does a dance.}''

==Fun Facts==
{{checkstuffpage}}
===Trivia===
[[Image:magiceye.jpg|thumb|right|Magic Eye]]
*This is the first time we see the main floor ceiling of the [[House of the Brothers Strong]].
*The [[Floppy Disk Container]] reads [[Floppy Disk Container#codename iceman|"codename: iceman"]].
*Decompiling the SWF reveals that the Magic Eye image is a working stereogram of Saturn, from [http://www.vision3d.com/book.html ''Magic Eye: How to See 3-D''].

===Remarks===
*Although smoke is shown coming out of the Tandy, the Tandy actually met its demise due to an explosion, not overheating.

===Inside References===
*This email confirms Strong Bad's statement in [[different town]] that his house has recessed lighting.
*Strong Bad calling the angels “wing-a-ling babies” is a reference to the email [[dragon]], where Strong Bad calls [[Trogdor]] a “wing-a-ling dragon.”
*The "ab tab" is a reference to the [[Ab-Abber 2000]].
*The spooky music sound effect comes from [[myths & legends]].
*This is another appearance of [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?]] and [[DELETED]].
*Bubs' smoking a cigar in the Easter egg is yet another instance of [[Smoking#Cigars|Cigars]].
*The odd looking Strong Bad in the book comes from the Strong Bad Libs Easter egg in [[lackey]].
*This is another appearance of [[Kicking The Cheat]].
*This is another appearance of [[The Cheat's keyboard]].
*"2 more [[Eggs|eggs]]" was an ingredient in [[Strong Bad's EGGS]] in [[morning routine]].
*This is another appearance of the [[BMW Lighter]].
*The label "Negative Zero" on the fridge may be a reference to [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0|level -0]] in [[Stinkoman 20X6]].
**Its location on the fridge may be a reference to the weak point of its boss, Ekersby.
*This is another appearance of [[Beverly Sportsinterviews]].
*This is another appearance of [[Sticky Notes]].
*The term "flesh-tangle" is a reference to the term "breadtangle" used in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]].
*Most of the Cold Ones on the last page of the book are from [[property of ones]].

===Real-World References===
*The Cheeto Bandito is a reference to Tex Avery's famous "[[Wikipedia:Frito Bandito|Frito Bandito]]", a character featured in many [[Wikipedia:Fritos|Frito]] commercials back in the 1970s.
*[[Wikipedia:Police Quest|Police Quest]] is a series of adventure games published by [[Wikipedia:Sierra Entertainment|Sierra]] between 1987 and 1993.
*[[Wikipedia:Magic Eye|Magic Eye]] is a series of books that feature [[Wikipedia:autostereogram|autostereograms]], which allow people to see 3D images by focusing on 2D patterns. The viewer must diverge their eyes in order to see a hidden 3-dimensional image within the pattern.
*"Señor Muybueno" is Spanish for "Mister Very Good", which is rather the opposite of Strong "Bad".

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|146|7133}}

{{Strong Bad Email}}

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2006-02-21T02:14:16Z

Spell4yr: /* Real-World References */ maybe trivial, but I'm not a fan of using 's for decades

Talk:pop-up

2006-02-21T02:10:10Z

Spell4yr:

== Gags Galore ==

Wow... This is, like... A cornucopia of running gags. How many pages are we gonna have to update? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Let's see... BMW Lighter, Kicking The Cheat, "How do you type with Boxing Gloves On?", Strong Bad hurting Strong Sad, Gavin, DELETED, the goofy book based on the author's name/city... Any others? -[[User:YK|YK]] 01:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::Whatsit made an appearance, as did post-it notes... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Don't a-forget, a-Holy Crap! -[[User:YK|YK]] 01:40, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Yay, for Gavin! Hey, the lights in the top of the celing...weren't they mentioned in [[other days]]? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::::Don't forget the [[Floppy Disk Container]]. No matter, I'm on it. (id tag of [[Floppy Disk Container#code name iceman]] is set up for whenever somebody wants to link it via Fun Facts) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:47, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::Bev Sportsinterviews, The Cheat's Keyboard, Strong Bad has a green tongue, one of the SBs looks like [[Super Brave!!]] style... I was just going to say the same thing. Don't you all love the cornucopia-reference types? —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:49, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I'm surprised there was no reference to [[Pie|pie]] in this e-mail. It's been referenced in, what... the last four e-mails? -[[User:YK|YK]] 01:57, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::::We can use this as a checklist, if necessary. Once you've added pop-up to the gag's page, you can check it off here, yeah? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::::I added the [[BMW Lighter]] sighting to its page. How do I check it off? -[[User:YK|YK]] 02:03, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

== Name ==

Hey, I decided to move this page to [[pop-up book]] (with a description) before everyone and their brother decided to edit it, but Bazooka Joe moved it back without any edit desc. So, [[pop-up]], or [[pop-up book]]? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:"pop-up" is the official name on the email menu. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 02:04, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

::Uh, no it's not. It's not even on the email menu yet. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:::Yes it is. Try clearing your cache, Kookykman. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 02:07, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Hm...multiple cache clearings, and it's not showing up for me. o_0 - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:::::That's weird ... it ''is'' showing up for me, and on the first try, too. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 02:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

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2006-02-19T20:52:13Z

Spell4yr: adding the userbox

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==Biography==
'''Spell4yr''' is a relatively recent convert to the world of Homestar Runner. He disliked the site until a friend of his continuously watched the emails in 2004 (the chronology is somewhat uncertain, but must be in the early part of 2004, since it coincided with the "Spare Key" email rap). He began watching the emails and enjoyed them, and then enjoyed the other toons on the site as well.

Spell4yr's beginning was somewhat uneventful. He was born Stephen ... um, H., on December 19, 1984 at Exeter Hospital in Exeter, N.H. He has claimed Seabrook, N.H. as his town of residency for his entire life (save for about a month spent in Newburyport, Mass., following the death of his grandfather). Attending Seabrook Elementary School he found his greatest achievement, winning four spelling bees in four years between the fifth and eighth grades (which albeitly, considering many of his classmates, wasn't much of an achievement). His username was a result of misguided egotism and a mistaken assumption that Hotmail restricted usernames for email accounts to no more than eight letters. Spell4yr then went on to Winnacunnet High School in Hampton, N.H., in the technology and engineering career track, and was a member of the twice-state-champions school math team, a trombone/tuba player for the band, and, for two years, a copy editor on the student newspaper. A successful academic career led him to enrollment at [http://www.valpo.edu Valparaiso University] in northwest Indiana, which he has attended for two and a half years, majoring in meteorology and mathematics.

He is well known for incredible lapses in memory and general absent-mindedness; he has tried to improve over the years but has only gotten much worse. He has joked that he marks his territory by leaving things behind in places he has been (usually pens or receipts, sometimes hats or other larger items). Spell4yr has not had much luck with the ladies (probably at least partially due to the forgetfulness), and does not expect prospects to improve anytime soon.

'''Domicile:''' IP address to be researched later 
'''Debut:''' editing a comma in [[geddup noise]]

==Wiki User Video Transcript==
''{'''Page Title:''' Four more years!} {'''Place:''' Valparaiso University}

''{The scene starts on the campus, in the middle of a large field. People walk on the pathways in the background, but Spell4yr is nowhere to be seen.}''

'''CAMERAMAN:''' Hey, we're rolling!

'''SPELL4YR:''' Sorry, I can't really focus right now!

''{The camera drops downward to show Spell4yr frantically searching through the grass for something.}''

'''CAMERAMAN:''' You'll just have to do this and then go back to that later! Don't worry about it right now!

'''SPELL4YR:''' Okay ... ''{gets up}'' Well, I'm Spell4yr. I can spell, and to answer you wackos on Yahoo! Messenger, that does not refer to witchcraft. So don't even ask me that. I like listening to music, and having good, clean, non-alcoholic fun, and ... sorry, I just can't do this! I have to find my keys!

'''CAMERAMAN:''' Whatever.

''{Spell4yr searches for a little while longer, then all of a sudden shakes his pocket inadvertently. It jingles.}''

'''SPELL4YR:''' Oh. They're right in here.

==Fun Facts==
*"Four more years" is typically used as some sort of campaign slogan for presidents seeking reelection.
*Spell4yr is standing/searching through a section of campus that once housed Moellering Library, which was demolished in May 2005 due to architectural and asbestos problems, in addition to being replaced the year before by the Christopher Center for Library and Information Resources.
**The Christopher Center is named after Jay and Doris Christopher. Jay is an alumnus of the university, and Doris created the Pampered Chef company of cooking products.

User talk:Thunderbird L17

2006-02-16T04:11:36Z

Spell4yr:

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== Happy New Year! ==

I know it's a little late, I just wanted to wish you a happy new year, and may you have the biggest collection of Reboot in the world! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:15, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

:Haha, thanks. I'm not really collecting that much as of late. It was just kinda a coincidental blitz time. My next big purchases are gonna be the SBE Disk 4, EE Disk 1, and Figurines 1 & CC. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:22, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== Condensed? ==

Wow, Thunderbird L17. [http://staff.x10hosting.com/suspended.page/?title=User:Thunderbird_L17 This page] you linked to is quite condensed. So much so, that it doesn't have anything about you on it. Is it new news that the account is suspended? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:18, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

:That's news to me. But my link on my userpage still works fine. My link goes [http://www.kilroy.x10hosting.com/index.php?title=User:Thunderbird_L17 here], and it seems as though I can still view and edit it just fine. How exactly did you come up with your link? I'll look into it a bit in the meantime. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:03, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

== Language issues ==

Hey there, I'm writing these thoughts here instead of on El Coolio von der Pollo Loco's page because we're getting a bit off the original topic there. But I did want to respond to your comments, so here goes. Re: Hebrew— My dad went to seminary, so he learnt both Hebrew and Greek for the sake of reading the Bible in the original languages. I also learnt Greek in high school, although never that well. But I still have a Greek New Testament and I try to read it every once in a while. Learning Greek also helped me with German a lot because I got used to using cases like ''Akkusativ'' and ''Nominativ''. Re: Korean— I have a friend in military intelligence in the US army who's learning Korean. He tells me it's ''really'' hard to actually learn it. He used to be afraid he'd fail out of school, but I think he's improving and is less concerned about it now. As for me, I started my French reading knowledge class today. ''That'' could be interesting. It's just so different from German. Anyway, this has been a long comment, so I'll wrap up now. Talk atcha later! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:21, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

:Well I won't be learning Korean then, thanks. :) That's cool you're learning French. You should move up to Canada, every label is bi-lingual up here, weather you like it or not. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:14, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

::Or come to Israel, where every label is '''tri'''-lingual! Hebrew, Arabic and English. Here's a [http://blog.lib.umn.edu/archives/mill1974/EGAD/images/Israel04/jeru_directions.jpg street sign] to compare. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 04:54, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

:::Yeah, I've heard about Canada's bilingualism. Actually, we're starting to see those English-French labels in the US a bit on various items you buy in stores. And on [[Heavy Lourde]]s. (I hear it's because of NAFTA or something.) And then, of course, California is becoming more and more bilingual every day what with all the Spanish-speakers we have around here. I actually had as interesting experience earlier tonight: I went to Cucca's, a wonderful taqueria here in SB, and asked if I could charge my order. The employee didn't know what it meant to charge something and had to ask one of her coworkers in Spanish what I meant. (Perhaps using the word "credit card" would have been helpful on my part.) But I digress... E.L. Cool: English, Hebrew and Arabic... ''that'' sounds fascinating. I'll have to come to Israel someday and see that. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
::::It's sometihng to see graphic deigners design a bag of potato chips with three tables of nutritional facts at the back of it. In three languages. Which two of them is writen from right to left and one the other way around. And don't you forget the informative pieces of paper in drugs: When to take, how, all of it tri-lingual. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 07:43, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Probably the most annoying thing about it is whenever you try to buy something like a boardgame, everything printed on the cards are in the two languages, which makes the font half the size, and it just bugs me, something you keep forever with a language on it that you'd rarely use on the West Coast. Luckily I live 5 minutes from the boarder, so I usually just pop down to bellingham in the states and buy any boardgames and the like from there. And although we're bi-lingual with all the products, our street signs aren't. Only the stop signs at the boarder crossing for some reason are in English and French, because I guess they have to be. In parts of Vancouver though, some of the signs are bi-lingual between English and Punjabi, or English and chinese, etc, depending what part of it you're in. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 13:24, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::That sounds fascinating. Man, I haven't been in Canada since I was, like, ten or something. And we even have a theory conference in Vancouver this year, but I can't imagine that I'll be able to afford to make it there. Oh, well. I'll still have to try to get to Canada again sometime. Oh, and I find it interesting that you mention coming to Bellingham, because my aunt used to live there. Now she lives even closer to the Canadian border, in a town called Lynden (maybe you know where that is, too, since I'm thinking it has to be pretty close to you?) Anyway, talk atcha later! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:52, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, I heard of Lynden. Given the chance, you should totally come to Vancouver sometime. It's a great place. We have had a near record 35 straight days of [http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/cities/can/pages/CABC0323.htm rain] of course, but don't let that discourage you. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:06, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Ech. Talking about rain is no way to get me to visit a city. That's what I despised about living in Oregon. But I imagine it's fine in the summer, much like in Oregon. I can't imagine I'll be in Vancouver anytime soon, unless I do manage to make the conference this year. But I definitely want to head there sometime.
::::::::P.S.: I'm glad to see I made your "Others" list! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:22, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

== Phantom message ==

Thanks for being a good sport! Your pal, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:01, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the help with my sig. But now is the time for the next step: a kick-awesome user page. Like... Nearly everyone here. Any ideas?> Thanx. {{User:Gnome of Fury/sig}} 22:19, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

:Well what exactly are you looking for? Start building what you want, and I'll try and fix any formatting/offer suggestions as you go. [[HRWiki:Userspace|this]] has some good ideas, as does looking at other's userpages, as you meantioned before. Your signature also seems to need a bit more work, as I meantioned on [[User talk:Gnome of Fury|your talk page]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:22, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

== dude, help me ==
hi. have you heard of [[User: Trendy Totebag]]? anyway, [[User: Ciberdude444]] has made some messages on his user page that i find unacceptable. can you block him? thanks. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 01:17, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

:Blocking is generally reserved for malicious anonymous trolls, not users that can be reasoned with. I'll talk to him. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:34, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

::Hang on now, Seriously, 'cause I can't find what you're talking about. Answer these three questions: Who made the message? What did the message say? Where is the message? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:38, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

:::I had a bit of trouble figuring out what they were talking about too. [[User:Ciberdude444]]'s userpage. He made some questionable comments about the two users in question. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:40, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

hm....[[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 01:42, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

:That is what you were refering to, right? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:44, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

i don't get this. that was what i was referring to, the links and stuff. ciberdude was temporarily trolled by trendy a while ago. he has held a grudge, so he wrote the comments from trendy. i just want him to forgive us. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 01:49, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

:I understand now, I didn't realize before that he didn't start it. I'll see what I can do. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:50, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:'''EDIT:''' I'm stepping out of this one. Talk to [[User:It's dot com|Dot com]] about any future problems, since he seems to already have had some history with you three. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

what i don't get is why dot com just deleted the whole thing. all evidence, and trendy hasn't even said his part. we need to hear his side bfore we decide what we have to do. i want ciber to be blocked. what does trendy want? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 02:01, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Holiday Sigs ==

So do I need to make them big enough for the box that says: maximum sig length.png? {{User:Tampo/sig}} 02:42, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

:You mean small enough. Well you could try <nowiki> or </nowiki> tags for a start, maybe some different wording, things like that. They just need to be peared down a bit before you switch to any of them. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:44, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Bis Februar! ==

See you when you get back! Too bad you won't be able to win any more cupcakes while you're gone! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:20, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

== Cool people ==

I put you on my cool people list. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:51, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

:<nowiki>[[No comment]]</nowiki>? Oh well, in any case, cool. Keep on tranglin', yo. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 08:24, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

::Cool {{User:The thing/sig}}

== get back to work ==
:Stop posting on Da Basement and get back to work! [[User:24.18.208.18|24.18.208.18]] 01:00, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
::Uhoh, you caught me. I was uh... just stopping in for a second to check my watchlist. I wasn't gonna check the recent changes or anything, really! Okay okay, I'll get back to work. Thanks Bubsty, (or whoever's on his computer), that was just what I needed. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:05, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
:It was me. I prefer editing annonomously. [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 17:03, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Umm, Thunderbird, aren't you supposed to be getting to work? (Believe me, I'm glad to see you around the wiki, but you ''did'' tell us to tell you to get back to work.) :-) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:10, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:Aw dangit! Foiled again! Fine fine, I'm gone, I'm gone. Thanks guys, that's just what I needed. Keep it up. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 07:16, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::And up it will be kept. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 07:18, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Ending sentences with prepositions is something up with which I will not put. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:20, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I know about this quote from Churchill (I think). <Looks at my own hand> Marde. I still have some [http://www.fsmb.mw.tu-muenchen.de/images/zeichenmat/Marker.jpg marker] marks on it. I better wash it again. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:22, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Ah, you recognized it! Good times! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:27, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Cheers! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 13:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
I hate to do this again, but, since you ''did'' tell me to... umm... get back to work. :-) {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:I know I know! I just came on for two seconds before going to bed. Really!
:Oh, who am I kidding. "I'm a wikiholic. I just can't live without Wikihol!". {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::'''All together:''' We love you Thunderbird!
::'''One Kid:''' Christopher Columbus.
::{{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 13:58, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Papadox ==

Yes, I did mean paradox. Thanks for noticing that! [[User:Bluebry muffin|Bluebry]] 18:38, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Sig ==

I actually just did some HTML editing and fixed my sig with due digelence! Hoo-rah! {{User:Total Spaceship Guy3/sig}} 10:42, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

== great jorb ==
I was looking at the recent changes, and I noticed your extensive work on the featured articles. You deserve a barnstar, but I don't know how to upload images. Ah well. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 01:06, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

:[[HRWiki:Barnstars]]. There's a bunch of them already showcased and availible, just input the image code. Be careful not to tread on anyone's toes though, most of the last half are personalized ones, made and given by a specific user. But thanks for the mention, it's always nice when people notice somebody's work. Well I've gotta go watch LOST now, and hopefully fit in a bit of English work somewhere too. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Longest. Name. Ever. ==

I'm thinking of "!!!!!!!!!!!!Jh9uy987ttrtider......biy," for example. Good work blocking these guys... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

:I just popped in to update Featured Article Selection, check the recent changes, and low and behold, it's NSMC all over again! It was actually kinda fun, I don't get to do much blocking too often, other sysops always beat me to it. It was total fluke I checked it when I did. Blocked 'em before they could even make one solitary edit, and I managed to welcome two legitimite users in the process. Thanks for noticing. (Don't worry about updating Wikitroll, those names'll just cause havoc for the tables) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Yes ==
Yes, that was me, blanking my own user page anonymously to see what would happen... heh.... {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:42, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

:From [[HRWiki:Blocking Policy]]: <blockquote>Users who act so as to impersonate a previously banned user, to impersonate a known vandal, or to pretend to be engaging in vandalism, are also likely to be accidentally blocked. To avoid this problem, do not act in this way. "[http://www.jargon.net/jargonfile/d/Dontdothatthen.html Don't do that then]". It is good practice to edit so as to demonstrate your trustworthiness, not to put up a facade of untrustworthiness.</blockquote>So, don't do that then. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:51, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

== You're not the only Canadian here ==

According to his [[Wikipedia:User:Drhaggis|Wikipedia user page]], Drhaggis is from Calgary. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:59, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== Dallas ==

I see you were in Dallas once (3 hours) but still, were you just at an airport, or like, did you go somewhere? And if it was an airport, DFW, Love Field, or some other one I don't know, and if you went somewheres, where? Just some questions. Also, if you ever go again, I might post a Dallas tour guide on my page. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 00:07, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:Hmm... I'm not quite sure. For some reason, it was a stopover from New York to Seattle (don't ask me why I was routed through Dallas, I agree it's a bit out of the way), and as such I didn't leave the airport for the 3 hours I was there. I don't recall the name "Love Field", it could have been DFW, but I'd be more certain if I knew what DFW stands for. It was a big one at least. Texas is on my mental list of places to go in America though, I've sorta half checked it off, but It'd be nice to actually roam around there. That, Florida, and Georgia are pretty much the only states left that I really want to see sometime. I take it you live in Dallas (or at least Texas), eh? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:39, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Cool, another Dallasite! Except, I would be more of a... Plano...ite, I guess... But to answer your question, Thunderbird, DFW stands for Dallas/Fort Worth, as in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. But it could also stand for [[Discount Flashback Warehouse]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:43, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that rings a bell. It was Fort Worth. Quite a nice airport, I rode that cool mini-skytrain for most of my stay there. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:45, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::K. Fort Worth is close. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:01, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

== Yousmell ==

I think [[User:Yousmell|Yousmell]] is a sock puppet of [[User:Yeltensic|Yeltensic]]. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 02:57, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

:Possibly. At the very least ''somebody's'' up to no good... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:58, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::Isn't the other recent name, [[User:Peltsnick|Peltsnick]], a copy of Yeltensic...? It looks like one. Made in between the Heimstern and Tbird attempts... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Maybe, but he hasn't done anything yet. So give him the benifit of the doubt. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:02, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

== A Wiki Story ==
Hey, what's with that Wiki Story link on your userpage that links to a nonexistant Fanstuff Wiki page? Some sorta fanstuff you plan on making? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 03:06, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

:That link I created a month or so ago, directing to an informal story that generated during a chat on the IRC channel. That story was, and is still stored [http://www.kilroy.x10hosting.com/index.php?title=User:Thunderbird_L17/Wiki_Story here], at the "Powered By The Kilory" wiki, since it's a bit questionable to put something that "Fanstuffy" on the HRWiki. But the PBTK wiki has been running pretty slow, off and on, so at the time I thought of moving my guestbook to the less formal "Fanstuff Wiki", I also decided to switch that link to a link to the story at the HRFWiki. However, I wasn't able to access my only copy at the PBTK wiki, since it was kinda struggling all day. But now it's seemed to recover, and I was able to grab the code from there. So to answer your question simply: Yes, the story's there now. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:04, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, uh, that... isn't ''Homestar Runner'' Fanstuff. At all. It's the kind of fanstuff that belongs on the [http://www.anubite.co.uk/wikis/wuw/index.php/Main_Page Wiki User Wiki], which was created because of similar fanstuff not relating the Homestar Runner got out of hand. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 19:45, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Hmm... Well I'm not really trying to put it up as part of my work or anything, it's just a funny thing that happened, and I'm hoping to just put it somewhere and link to it. I was gonna just put it here, but since the HRWiki has somewhat high standards for what is allowed, I figured the Fanstuff Wiki would be a safer bet. I really don't care where it goes, I just want it someplace stable. But if it's not allowed at the Fanstuff Wiki, I'll move it on over to the link you provided. Thanks. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:27, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::Well, generally the Fanstuff Wiki has an "anything goes" atmosphere, but occassionally some things go out of hand (like guestbooks did here) and we get strict in that area. We are strict [[HRFWiki:HRFWiki:Fanstuff Guidelines|against rule breaking fanstuff]], and pretty much anything that's been laid down in a [[HRFWiki:HRFWiki:Discussions|discussion]]. ([[HRFWiki:HRFWiki:Wiki User Problem|Here's the one]] that's causing problems for your fanstuff.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 01:30, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

FYI, Thunderbird, it's "Powered By Kilroy," not "Powered By The Kilory." :) —'''[[User:Kilroy|Kilory]]'''/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]

== PROTECT'D? ==

Just thoght I'd let you know that the Sketchbook image on the Main Page hasn't been protected yet. Just for the sanity of the Wiki, I wanted to let you know. You know, because you can do something about that and I can't? Whatever. Thanks, T-Bird. {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 21:44, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:Protect'd, thanks. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:49, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== Templates ==
I want to make my own custom-made welcome message, but I don't know how to make a template. I'll create a subpage for it, but can you show me how to do it? Thanks. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 13:44, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

:Here's the basic rules for creating your own Welcome message (if you so choose):

:#Create a subpage like "User:Seriously/Welcome".
:#Type <nowiki>{{{1}}}</nowiki> where ever you want your sig to appear. If you don't want your signature and datestamp at the same place, put {{{2}}} wherever you want your datestamp.
:#When you welcome someone, type <nowiki>{{subst:User:Seriously/Welcome|~~~~}}. If your sig and datestamp aren't together, instead of |~~~~}}, type |~~~|~~~~}}</nowiki>
:#Make sure you type "subst" first! Otherwise when they try to reply to your welcome, instead of your message they'll just see <nowiki>{{User:Seriously/Welcome|~~~~}}</nowiki>
:#If you want to ignore the whole <nowiki>{{{1}}}</nowiki> thing, you can always just make a welcome message without your sig incorperated into it, and just sign your template, like so: <nowiki>{{User:Seriously/Welcome}}~~~~</nowiki>
:Hope that helps. If all else fails, just look at the code for something you want to copy, and see how it all works. Like taking apart a radio. (That's how I always learn everything). {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 15:18, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

::Thank you so much. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 15:32, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Can I do it on your userpage just to try it out? {{User: Seriously/sig}} 15:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

=== Welcome to the wiki! The coolest place in the world! ===
Hey! Thanks for joining the wiki! I assure you, pretty much everyone likes seeing a new user join the wiki, so no matter what you'll be treated well here. If you need any help with editing, users, or anything else ask anyone you want on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming Committee#Members|Welcoming Committee]] (like {{{1}}}

Here are some things to help you get started:
* Don't know how to edit? Don't know how to do, well.....anything on the wiki? I know, I was like that too. Just check out the [[Help: Contents|help page]].
* Before you do much serious editing on this site, the best thing you can do is visit the [[HRWiki:Standards|standards for doing so]].
* If you want to create a user page, make sure you visit [[hRWiki:User Space|This page]]. That way, people will '''love''' your userpage.
* If you're bored, or you just want to know what to do to help the wiki, visit [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
* If you're looking to just hang out with all the extremely cool people on this wiki, you might wanna check out the [http://www.forum.hrwiki.org wiki forum]. Cool place. If you want a more relaxed environment for chilling with users, check out the [[Hrwiki:IRC channel|IRC channel]].
*Above all when on the wiki, be '''Bold''' and have fun!

Feel free to delort this message when you are done reading it. After all, your userpage belongs to you. Have a fun time on the wiki, and thanks for joining!

Sincerely, 
{{User: Seriously/sig}} 15:57, 7 February 2006 (UTC) and everyone else on the wiki.

===Fixes===

I did a minor fix or two on the template, it should work a bit better now. just type:

<nowiki>{{User:Seriously/welcome|~~~|~~~~~}}

Or if you want to take the datestamp right out of the template, just delete the "{{{2}}}", and type this instead:

{{User:Seriously/welcome|~~~}}</nowiki>

But it looks like you've got a pretty good handle on it now. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:35, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

== 8,000 views ==

Hey man, congratulations on your 8,000th page view. You have, in my opinion, one of the best user pages on this Wiki. [[User:65.6.33.133|65.6.33.133]] 00:30, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
:Woo-hoo, T-Bird, woo-hoo. I've almost caught up with you! I only have 5,400 page views to go. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
::Oh! You're right, I totally forgot. I'd better update that. And thanks 65.6.33.133, that's nice of you to say. I'd be interested in seeing your userspace, but it doesn't look like you've quite made one yet. Let me know if you ever do, anybody who commends my userpage gets a free pass into my good books. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:06, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

== Flood ==

''psst...'' You know you don't have to edit each section individually, right? ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:39, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

:True, but if I tried to edit each page as a whole, I'd be FAR more likely to miss entries. This way's alot more methodical, I can test each link to make sure my new id's are all correct, and I can catch when I miss formatting, which I have a few times. Don't worry, I'll be done in an hour. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:42, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

::Dude, even so, I'm not gonna go and spend, like, an hour patrolling these. Even if that's just me, it seems a little weird. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:05, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Ah ha! Now's my chance to vandalize, without "Seriously's" careful watching! Hahahahaha! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:07, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Yeah, right. You wouldn't dare. Even if you would, that means I'm right that you would be the first sysop to go overboard.......Kidding. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:09, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::Whew, done and done. I'm gonna be typing "Standardized" in my sleep now, I did it so many times. Okay, I'm gonna go pick up my new strongbad_email.exe disc 4 from the post office now and unwind. Don't expect me around for a while... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}}

::::::Doing, like, fourty edits is definitely a reason to watch some strong bad. See ya. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 03:36, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::::Try a little over 150. :) But I'm done now, watched all the commentaries, all the bonus videos, now I'm just waiting for my "Everything Else" DVD to come next week. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:42, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

::::::::Holy crap, I need that thing. I've been wanting it for so long......''And'' it's got so much more secret stuff to watch. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 03:43, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Heck, you shoulda seen the flood I took care of reverting Dr. Who at the BSWiki... Probably around that amount. Except in your case, it was positive flood... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::::Yeah, I finally got myself a credit card last month, and finished up my backlog wishlist. In a week I'll have all the figurines sets, all the DVDs and CD's, and my brother's got a Kick the Cheat The Cheat. I'm all set for being the first in line for [[Everything Else, Volume 2]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:48, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
::You could use browser tabs and show preview to help you. You won't miss entries if you're slow and cautious. Nobody's going to be editing those pages while you're doing it anyway. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:13, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Hmmm... Well it's easier to do it this way, but if it's really annoying, I guess I can try and just do edit summaries and whatnot. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:14, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Sweet job. Thanks bud; that looks a lot better on RC and histories. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 22:36, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

== Your "mystery" ==

Every time you log in, some ISPs will issue you a new IP number within their range(s). It just so happens that ''both'' of the IP numbers in your "mystery" are owned by Shaw Communications, Inc. in Alberta. So, no real mystery, unless you don't get internet service from Shaw Communications. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:42, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:Well that's not quite the whole thing. Here's the total deal. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=24.69.255.236 These edits] are mostly by me. At the very least, I know that the first two edits there were from my own computer, at home, troll edits by accident. Now look at the main chunk of edits in December. I was housesitting at a friend's house five blocks away for those. So the main question of my mystery is: How the crap are both my house edits, and my friend's house edits of four months later the same IP address?!?!?!?! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:52, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:: Ah. Well, your friend must ''also'' use Shaw Communications. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:54, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::So you're saying it's just a fluke that somehow my original IP floated it's way over to him? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:55, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::: Yup. As long as you're in the same domain, it's possible. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:47, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

== BazookaJoe ==

He traded on us [http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?title=User%3ADm_illera&diff=531955&oldid=531950 look!]

That is obviously an impersonator. Anybody who knows BzJ would know that. Plus, "joe" isn't even capitalized. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:48, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== IRC ==

You want to hop on IRC quick a minute? I have some sweet stuff to tell you. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:33, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Nikolce Kocovski ==
Hey, I'm wondering if you can help Nick's page. I don't seem to be able to fix it, but He wants a caption on the pizza trophy. Instead, he's only able to put it on the thermometer thingy. I don't know what to do, but I think you will. Thanks. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 12:45, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Spam? ==

Awl's user page looked like a mess, but I'm not sure that "spam" was the right word... it looked more like a copy/paste of Yahoo's main page or something. There weren't even any links (except a copy of an example link, which went nowhere.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:46, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

:It was for the sole purpose of advertising, which is completely against policy. And it was ''Aws''' user space. (I also double checked with Dot com first) ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:52, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:: How did you figure this? It looked like a new user playing around to me. And, yeah, forgot the name the moment I looked away. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:55, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Well if it was just a user playing around, they're welcome to start editing normally. But if it was an advertiser, they'll either not edit anymore, or try posting obvious spam again and get blocked. You could be right, that's why I left the message. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:00, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

== Corn Army ==
Thanks for uploading the better picture of the Corn Army. I think I ended up rotating the original picture in Paint Shop Pro so much that it ended up distorting the quality, so the better image is much appreciated. I just wanted ''something'' to be up there so that they didn't get unacknowledged. :-) [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 04:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

myths & legends

2006-02-16T04:06:54Z

Spell4yr: /* Easter Eggs */ linkage to the Corn Army; not adding to cast list per Coach Zed discussion of do over

{{sbenav|145|narrator|some kinda robot}}
[[Image:Sbemail145.PNG|thumb|Mysterious Myth... or Legendary Legend? ]]
Strong Bad recounts the legendary myth of the [[Bear-Shark]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):'''
{{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#A Mighty Warrior|A Mighty Warrior]] (Easter egg), {{Film|Trogdor}} (Easter egg), [[Bear-Shark]], {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], The Woods

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' February 13, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 2:54

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I'm livin' the Strong Bad life, I take an email for my wife. I take an email for my wife. ''{brings up and reads the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: Hey Strongbad!</div>
Hey Strongbad, 
Does Strong Badia have any Mysterious Myths or 
Legendary Legends? 
Cephas 
Cornwall, CA 
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "Strongbad" as "Two words. Two different words. That are not one word. That are 'Strong' and 'Bad'." and the name and location as "Cephas Cornwall of the Corn Army".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Mysterious Myths or Legendary Legends? Isn't that a show on one of those channels up in the high hundreds? Ya know, like between the CG Dinosaur Channel and the Homes with Rollercoasters in Them Network? Well, if not, it should be! ''{makes a static-like sound}'' Come on! ''{makes it again, but this time the screen cuts to static}'' There we go.

''{Cut to Strong Badia. Strong Bad carries a stick.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Badia. An idyllic fruit-opia. Rich in madeupstories and nottrueities. The nottrue-est of which...

''{He prods The Tire with his stick. The Bear-Shark pops up. The Cheat runs by, panicked.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{screams in The Cheat}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...is the mighty bear holding a shark. ''{spooky music starts}'' More than a mere security counter-measure, its origins lie in the skies of old.

''{Cut to a starry sky. Constellations of the Strong Badia flag's snake, the guy with the big knife, a hand giving the "OK" symbol, a board with nails in it, General Tso's chicken, a fish with an afro, and a marathon runner sporting a Union Jack singlet.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The stars tell us that two of the seven elemental spirits of Strong Badia, the fish wearing a 'fro wig and the British distance runner, combined forces to defeat the others.

''{The two constellations in question fight, and in the end, the runner holds the fish over his head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' In paintball... or maybe Red Rover.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Then, through years of bad story-telling and the telephone game,

''{Over the following, images of a satyr holding a fish, labeled "Wildernessman withst Sea-Beast", a moose with a chameleon in its antlers, and a bad drawing of the bear-shark on the fence appear.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The mythic beast transformed into the bear holding a shark we know today. These ancient fence drawings show evidence of destroyed crops, stolen babies, and family bike-rides. ''{The screen pans over to show bad drawings of the same.}'' Or family pie-sitting contests. Bear-holding-a-shark fever gripped the nation.

''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand, with various Bear-Shark paraphernelia.}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{holding up an ice cream bar}'' We got Bear-holding-a-shark frozen delights, ''{looking at a pile of glasses near him}'' and these shot glasses are always popular with the kids. Oh, and my favorite: ''{reaches down and produces a necklace}'' these Bear-tooth-holding-a-shark-tooth necklaces!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Of course, not everyone caught the fever.

''{Music starts and Bubs dances. Then, cut to Strong Sad. The screen reads "Bear Holding a Shark Skeptic".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' I'm sure it's just a weather balloon or a foreign exchange student. These strange beasts just aren't real!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...said the elephant-footed ghost man. And then, one day, the Bear-holding-a-shark got the break all made-up creatures dream of. ''{The screen becomes more and more blurry, and zooms further and further into Strong Bad, on each word in:}'' Blurry photographic evidence.

''{Cut to Homestar Runner}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Now, I'm a little fuzzy on the details, but I was in the woods, walking my dog Pom Pom. All of a sudden, he started growlin' and poopin' all over the place. And that's when I saw it.

''{Static, then cut to a very fuzzy video reel of the Bear-Shark walking through the woods.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{voiceover}'' A very. Scary. Monsterman.

''{More spooky music}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Now that we've seen all the evidence, it's up to you to decide: ''{the following words appear on the screen}'' Mysterious Myth? Or Legendary Legend?

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Join us next week when we examine startling new evidence in the Biscuitdoughhandsman conspiracy.

''{More spooky music. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:WalkingwithTrogdor.PNG|thumb|Walking with Trogdor]]
[[Image:By_strong_bab_age_5.PNG|thumb|Who REALLY made all those fence drawings...]]
*After Strong Bad says "Corn Army", click on CA in the email to see a [[Teen Girl Squad]] frame of the Mighty Warrior taking on the [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#The Corn Army|Corn Army]].
:'''A MIGHTY WARRIOR:''' The corn army is no match for A Mighty Warrior!
*Click on "CG Dinosaur Channel" to see Trogdor walk on the screen, advertising "Walking with Trogdor".
* By viewing the Flash file, when the "ancient fence drawings" are going by, you can see the following text written in sloppy, child handwriting outside of the typical viewing area.
<blockquote>by strong bab ag9 5
</blockquote>
*Click on "startling" at the end to see a scene with Strong Bad and Bubs.
:''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{holding one of the Bear-Shark ice cream bars}'' So this is supposed to be the bear holding a shark? Looks more like...Morgan Freeman.
:'''BUBS:''' Oh, right! That's what it is! Now gimme twenty extra bucks for that Shawshank style.
*Click on "Biscuitdoughhandsman" to see Coach Z reporting an incident.
:''{Cut to Coach Z, standing in silhouette in front of a dark background. A caption appears reading "This guy's voice has been digitally altered again"}''
:'''COACH Z:''' ''{with voice digitally altered}'' So there I was, minding my own creepy business, when I found this severed hand in the lacker room! ''{He holds up a biscuit with a bite taken out.}''

==Fun Facts==
{{checkstuffpage}}
===Explanations===
*"CG" is short for "Computer graphics".
*"Telephone Game" is a game for children where a message is whispered from one participant to another, along a group, causing the message to be distorted more and more.

===Trivia===
*This is another appearance of [[Pie|pie]].
*One of the "Cave Drawings" bears a striking resemblance to [[What's Her Face]].

===Goofs===
*When Strong Bad is introducing Strong Badia for the first time, his left arm is briefly missing.
*If you click on the Trogdor easter egg directly before the static, the egg will appear over the static and disappear as soon as it arrives in Strong Badia.

===Inside References===
*A Mighty Warrior first appeared in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]], and has mentioned corn each time he has appeared.
*[[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]] first appeared in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].
**While this character's name is normally made up of multiple words, it has previously appeared as a single word in one of the Easter-egg reviews of Strong Bad's [[rock opera]].
*The constellation scene features the [[Strong Badia|Strong Badian]] flag's snake, the [[Painting of a guy with a big knife|big knife guy]] and his knife, and [[General Tso's Chicken]], which all had connections to Strong Badia in the past.
*Coach Z's voice was digitally altered before in [[couch patch]].
*The Cheat was revealed to be scared of the Bear-Shark in [[date]].
*Strong Sad's [[Soolnds]] are mentioned again.
*The "Bear Holding A Shark" ice cream bar is similar in style to the [[Ice Cream|ice cream bars]] of Homestar Runner, [[Pom Pom]] and Strong Bad, as seen in the [[Museum]]. It also bears a resemblance to the Aunt Gert Doll seen in [[garage sale]].
*"Strong Bab" is a reference to [[The Secrets That I Keep]], in which Strong Sad's birthday card was signed the same way by [[Lil' Strong Bad]].
*Homestar Runner's pronunciation of "monsterman," as one word with the last syllable unaccented, matches the pronunciation of "[[Santaman]]".
*The cottage and Trogdor sprite used in the "Walking with Trogdor" easter egg come from the game [[TROGDOR!]].
*One of the fence drawings appears to be a thatched-roof cottage being burninated.

===Real-World References===
*"Walking With Trogdor" is a reference to the TV special [[Wikipedia:Walking With Dinosaurs|Walking With Dinosaurs]], which features CG dinosaurs.
**The "Walking with Trogdor" Easter egg is a reference to the recent trend of television networks to advertise for their shows by displaying short video clips along the bottom during the broadcast of another show.
*The British Long Distance Runner is likely a reference to [[Wikipedia:Roger Bannister|Roger Bannister]], the first man who ran the mile in under four minutes.
*"Bear Holding a Shark Week" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Discovery Channel|The Discovery Channel]]'s [http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/sharkweek/sharkweek.html Shark Week].
*One of the fence drawings is a [[Wikipedia:TIE fighter|TIE fighter]].
*"Shawshank style" is in reference to the 1994 movie [[Wikipedia:The Shawshank Redemption|The Shawshank Redemption]] in which Academy Award-winning actor [[Wikipedia:Morgan Freeman|Morgan Freeman]] plays a convict.
*The Strongbadia Myth Show is a reference to [[Wikipedia:In Search Of...|In Search Of...]] and similar shows and documentaries that investigate paranormal phenomena such as [[Wikipedia:Cryptozoology|monster sightings]] and alien abductions, and often include interviews with people who claim to have encountered such things.
*The blurry video footage of the bear holding a shark is a reference to the famous [[Wikipedia:Patterson-Gimlin_film|Patterson-Gimlin]] home-movie footage of an alleged [[Wikipedia:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] (Sasquatch) moving through a forest.
**A notable detail about Homestar's footage is that the bear-shark's feet are white and have blue soles, suggesting that the footage is not authentic. The Bigfoot footage has been debunked for similar reasons.
*[[Wikipedia:Fruitopia|Fruitopia]] is a fruit drink manufactured by [[Wikipedia:The Coca-Cola Company|Coca-Cola]].
*Strong Sad's mention of a weather balloon refers to the [[Wikipedia:Roswell UFO incident|1947 UFO incident]] in Roswell, New Mexico. Government officials identified strange debris as a weather balloon, which was later alleged to be a cover-up. Since then, weather balloons have become a typical rationalization of UFO sightings.
*The "Homes with Rollercoasters in Them Network" is likely a reference to the many home improvement shows that exist on channels like [[Wikipedia:TLC|TLC]] and The Discovery Channel, in which rooms are redecorated to fit a specific theme. Such shows include [[Wikipedia:Trading Spaces|Trading Spaces]] and [[Wikipedia:Monster House|Monster House]].
**This could also be a reference to the Travel Channel showing various such houses on their programs.
*The T-Shirt in Bubs's Concession Stand which reads "My Baby Got Stole By the Bear Holding a Shark" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Azaria Chamberlain disappearance|Azaria Chamberlain disappearance]] in Australia in 1980, the subject of many books and films. The parents of two month old Azaria claimed that she was stolen by a [[Wikipedia:dingo|dingo]]; they were widely disbelieved and convicted of her murder, though the conviction was later overturned. Even now there is dispute over whether their claim that a dingo stole their baby was a hoax.


==External Links==

{{sbemailextlinks|145|7040}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}

Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters

2006-02-15T16:53:00Z

Spell4yr: whoops -- fix'd?

Some characters make a very brief appearance in [[Teen Girl Squad]], often hurting one of the girls. Usually they are never seen again, but in the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|10th Issue special]], many of these characters made cameo appearances at [[The Ugly One]]'s Sweet Someteen Birthday Bash.
[[Image:Sweetsometeen.PNG|500px|thumb|A party of minor characters]]
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1|Issue 1]]==

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|[[Image:The_Helicopter.PNG|150px|Bang-bang-bang!]] ||
=====A Helicopter=====
This helicopter attacked some [[The Birds|birds]] with machine guns. Surprisingly, this aircraft was the first object to harm living creatures in the entire series, yet its victims did not include one of the girls. [[Strong Bad]] supplied the rapid fire noise of its deadly projectiles.
 
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| [[Image:Dinosaur.PNG|150px|Bend It Like Beckhamasaurus Rex]] ||
=====The Dinosaur=====
The [[Dinosaurs|dinosaur]] punted [[What's Her Face]] across the cartoon. Just after this, she was heard to remark, "Dag, yo." She is presumed to have died upon landing. The dinosaur also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza, where it was revealed to have bloody teeth.
 
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 2|Issue 2]]==
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|[[Image:Cloud_Monster.PNG|150px|Bad weather]] ||
=====Cloud Monster=====
As the girls go to look so good, a cloud in the background grows angry eyes and a mouthful of sharp teeth. This cloud monster quickly chomped on some [[The Birds|birds]].
 
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|[[Image:paul_no_I_in_team.png|150px|No "I" in dead either]] ||
=====No "i" in team boy=====
He is a boy who goes out with [[So and So]], which causes her friends to get jealous. When So and So mentions that she's totally crushing, the boy gets hit by a school bus (driven by [[Arrow'd Guy]]) marked "'''CHILDREN'''". He also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza. He appears again, silhouetted, in an Easter egg in the email [[death metal]].
 
|-
|[[Image:Vulture.png|left|150px|SWOOP'D!!]] 
[[Image:Bat.png|left|150px|GRASP'D!]]
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=====The Vulture and the Bat=====
The Vulture swooped [[The Ugly One]] when she got jealous of [[So and So]]'s getting the "No I In Team Boy" to date her. The Bat grasped [[Cheerleader]] for the same reasons as the vulture.
 
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3|Issue 3]]==
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=====Buzzsaw Sun=====
The sun turned into a buzzsaw, and chopped up some [[The Birds|birds]] in this episode.
 
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|[[Image:Thrift_Store_Girl.PNG|150px|Boy or girl?]] ||
=====Thrift Store Person=====
This person is found at the thrift store that [[What's Her Face]] shopped at, where she stays behind a rack of shirts, holding a sign that reads, "1 or 2 cent each item." In the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]] DVD commentary, Strong Bad says that she is a "homeless woman."
 
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|[[Image:Possum_Attack.PNG|150px|"Poooosssssummmmms...!"]] ||

=====Possums=====
A wave of possums, announced by a menacingly voiced "Poooosssssummmmms...!" attacked What's Her Face as she walked home from the thrift store. They got her dirty and tore her clothing, but didn't kill her. When she met up with the other girls, one possum was seen still attacking her. The possum attack apparently made [[What's Her Face]]'s blood hurt. They also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza. 
 
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4|Issue 4]]==
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| [[Image:Pierced_Heart.PNG|150px|Cupid strikes back]] ||
=====Brett Bretterson=====
Brett is an imaginary person who So And So made up in first grade. He is mentioned in Teen Girl Squad Issues 4 and 10. Ignoring her friends' denial of Brett's reality, So And So interacts with "Brett" as if she could actually see and hear him. This causes the other girls to be weirded out. Brett and So And So were going to study together when their plans were ended abruptly by falling in the Fighting Growlbacks [[Bottomless Pits|Bottomless Spirit Pit]].

So And So is in love with Brett, and when she thinks of him hearts appear over her head. One of them grew a face just as it was pierced with an arrow.

In the tenth episode, So And So states that she and Brett Bretterson are "Splitsville".

Brett may or may not be a real person, too; he is listed in the [[best thing#Credits listed|credits]] for [[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"]] as the "Worst animator". Strong Bad confirms this in the [[best thing#Commentary Transcript|DVD commentary]] for [[best thing]].
 
|-
| [[Image:quarterback.png|150px|Quarterman]] ||
=====Quarterback=====
The quarterback for the Fighting Growlbacks is a target of the affections of [[Cheerleader]]. He dismisses her with the quip "How's about you get some brains?" This causes Cheerleader to get CEREBELLUM'D by [[Arrow'd Guy]]'s [[Minor_Teen_Girl_Squad_Characters#Giant_Brain_Mech|Giant Brain Mech]]. He also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
|-
|[[Image:Cerebellumed_Cheerleader.PNG|150px|Cerebellum'd!]] ||
=====Giant Brain Mech=====
The Giant Brain Mech is a giant brain with lips and an eye patch. It is apparently mechanical, because [[Arrow'd Guy]] can be seen controlling the brain under a glass dome. The brain CEREBELLUM'D! [[Cheerleader]] when the Quarterback suggested that she should go get some brains.
 
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5|Issue 5]]==
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=====Fat Bird=====
The fat bird is first seen in Issue 5, perched on the "meanwhile, ON VACATION" sign in the transition scene. Later in the cartoon, when The Ugly One gets nervous and sticks her head in the sand, the fat bird flies down and perches on her side. The bird doesn't seem to do anything after that. It just sits there with its tongue hanging out for the rest of the cartoon.
 
|-
| [[Image:oldaboys.png|150px|Lying around...]] ||
=====Olda Boys=====
The olda boys are college boys that were at the vacation beach with Cheerleader, So and So, and The Ugly One. One misses video games, but the other misses his mom even more. They can combine their sayings into a pretty cool jam. The longer-haired one earned a [[Quote of the Week]]. They also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
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|[[Image:Famous or Cool Guys.PNG|150px|Cool or famous]] ||
=====[[Wikipedia:Henry Rollins|Henry Rollins]], [[Wikipedia:Abraham Lincoln|Abraham Lincoln]], and [[Wikipedia:George Washington|George Washington]]=====
These are the "cool or famous" people who look at the nervous The Ugly One and then parasail with So and So. They also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza. There, Henry Rollins was revealed to be an odd red color, a likely reference to [http://21361.com/site_2004/watch_listen.html the music video for "Liar"] (from the album Weight--Henry Rollins Band, Imago Records 1994).
 
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==[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad|Issue 6]]==
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=====Gift Exchange Lion=====
This [[Lions|lion]], who seems to be missing a leg, appears in Decemberween Teen Girl Squad. Cheerleader, So and So, and The Ugly One all dive into its mouth in pursuit of [[Decemberween]] presents, but What's Her Face declines. For some reason the [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Inside the Lion|inside of the lion]] looks like the inside of a whale. He also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
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|[[Image:smileyfaceman.png|150px|A nose from the happy judge]] ||
=====Smiley Face Man=====
This happy fellow is a judge in the Decemberween Teen Girl Squad. He and the other two judges (who are both [[Arrow'd Guy]]) TWO'D The Ugly One for her cannonball into the Gift Exchange Lion's mouth. He rates Cheerleader's dive into the lion's mouth a "nose" along with the other judges. Noticeable is the fact that he can move his arms along his skinny body. His "shoulder" is not visible until he lifts up the sign. Little else is known about this person, or what the value of a "nose" is in competitive Lion's mouth jumping. He also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
|-
|[[Image:hawiianguy.png|150px|Singing about babies]] ||
=====Hawaiian Guy=====
This musician wears a Hawaiian shirt and plays a ukulele. He sang "Wave o' Babies" as a wave of babies appeared. He also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
|-
| [[Image:Wave of Babies.PNG|150px|A virtual tsunami of infants.]] ||

=====Wave o' Babies=====
These babies are in a giant wave that crashed into What's Her Face. They are seen caving onto What's Her Face, but the actual crash is not shown. It is possible that the wave just swept past without stopping. This is further supported by the fact that after the crash, only two babies are visible clinging onto What's Her Face, while all the others are gone. They also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
|-
|[[Image:gazelle_carcass_half-digested.PNG|150px|Bonus: Half-Digested!]] ||
=====Gazelle Carcass=====
This half-digested animal is presented by [[The Ugly One]] at the very end of Decemberween Teen Girl Squad to [[Cheerleader]] to her dismay. All of the other girls seem to be pleased at the sight of the dead animal, despite the negative aspects of decomposing carcasses.
 
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|Issue 7]]==
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=====Fat Man=====
He's a fat man who wears a singlet similar to Strong Mad's. He fell down a slide and squished Teeny Tiny Cheerleader while she was throwing a tantrum. He bears a striking resemblance to pro wrestler [[Wikipedia:Chris Pallies|King Kong Bundy]].
 
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| [[Image:billbellamy.png|150px|The bell tolls for thee]] ||
=====Bill Bellamy=====
This is the bell seen in Issue 7 in the Teeny Tiny Girl Squad's [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Diaper School|preschool]]. His role is similar to that of the Intercom, but specific relationship details are unknown. He bears the same name as actor and comedian [[IMDB:nm0004740|Bill Bellamy]].
 
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|Issue 8]]==
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=====Intercom=====
The intercom is a feature of the Teen Girl Squad's school. As it is hanging up high in the girls' classroom, it is responsible for announcing things like the school lunch and commands. Later in the cartoon, the Intercom is seen mounted on a robot body, hosting the Battle of the Bands. It introduced the bands "Fatty's Big Chance" and the Teen Girl Squad "[[Kissyboots]]." It also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party on its stand, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza, nursing a martini.
 
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|[[Image:floortommed.png|150px|Floor Tom, the evil drum]] ||

=====Floor Tom=====
When [[The Ugly One]] does her 16-hour drum solo, she was rudely interrupted by an evil floor tom (a type of drum included in a drumset that stands on the floor with 3 legs) when it FLOOR TOMMED her by biting her top half off. This was just one of three events that stopped her drum solo, as she was also STEP-MOMMED and POM POMMED.
 
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|[[Image:stepmom.jpg|150px|"YOU LITTLE BRATS BEST SHUT YER YAPS!!!"]] ||
=====Mrs. So-and-so-erson=====
Mrs. So-and-so-[[Names ending in -erson|erson]] is [[So and So]]'s "step-mom". "She" resembles [[Arrow'd Guy]] in lipstick and a jogging suit; it's debatable whether she is in fact the same person. As [[Cheerleader]] states, she has questionable taste, which is agreed upon by [[What's Her Face]] after observing the many jogging suits in her [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson's Walk-in Closet|walk-in closet]]. She "STEP-MOMMED" [[The Ugly One]] by pouring ranch dressing on her during her 16-hour drum solo.
 
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|[[Image:FattysBigChance2.png|150px|Consider it Picked!]] ||

=====Fatty=====
Fatty is the sole member of the one-man saxophone band, "Fatty's Big Chance." He played before Kissyboots in the Battle of The Bands. With his [[Wikipedia:Two Tone|two tone]] suit and rousing chant of "pick it up, pick it up," Fatty is a [[Wikipedia:Ska|ska]] machine. He also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
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|[[Image:Trollswantautograph.PNG|150px|KRA'AGH!]] ||

=====Trolls=====
The trolls enter So and So's dressing room while [[So and So]] is preparing for the Battle of the Bands. In their native tongue, they ask her for her autograph. Apparently So and So can understand them, and is happy to oblige. But before she could sign, she was TWELVE-SIDED DiED!, inexplicably by a 20-sided die. They also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza. One of the trolls appears again, silhouetted, in an Easter egg in the email [[death metal]].
 
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|[[Image:whatsherfacesshark.PNG|150px|A seaworthy bass]] ||
=====A Shark=====
At the Battle of the Bands, [[What's Her Face]]'s bass guitar suddenly transforms into a shark. "My bass feels seaworthy," she says. Suddenly, the shark bites off the upper half of her body. "Ahhh! My most of me!" she laments.

Amazingly, the shark can also play a mean bass even without fingers. Cheerleader keeps him on to play backup and the remaining member(s) of Kissyboots finish the performance respectably. Alas, after the song ends, the shark can be heard snacking on Cheerleader.
 
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|Issue 9]]==
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|[[Image:TGS_LPGirl.PNG|150px|TEN O' CLOCK AND TWO O' CLOCK!]] ||
=====Learner's Permit Girl=====
This girl first appears in Teen Girl Squad Issue 9. She is not a very good driver, and ends up DRiVER'S ED'ED...DEADing Cheerleader. On the plus side, she gives Strong Bad a ride to Babbage's. She also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
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|[[Image:SciFiGreg.png|120px|He knew she'd come back to him]] ||
=====Science Fiction Greg=====
Science Fiction Greg is an old boyfriend of What's Her Face, and, judging by his name, is a science fiction fan. After Cheerleader died, he admits that he knew that she would come back to him. He also claims that his experience points went into triple digits and he has since needed to keep the ladies and valkyries off with a two-handed +3 broad sword. As these are all Dungeons and Dragons terms, this claim bites D N' D Greg's style.
 
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|[[Image:SciFiGregPallies.PNG|152px|Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum]] ||

=====Friends of Science Fiction Greg=====
Putative friends of Science Fiction Greg. They listen patiently as he brags about his relationship with What's Her Face and his experience points. The character on the left bears a resemblance to an overweight character often found in Gary Larson's [[Wikipedia:Far Side|Far Side]] cartoons.
 
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|[[Image:DndGreg.PNG|152px|Doesn't like his style bitten]] ||

=====D N'D Greg=====
An apparent [[Wikipedia:Dungeons and Dragons|Dungeons and Dragons]] expert. Science Fiction Greg's boasting bites his style.
 
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|[[Image:Vultures.PNG|150px|Vulture'd!]] ||

=====Vultures=====
When [[Mr. Pitters]] tries to join the Teen Girl Squad, these fiendish birds tell him that he "ain't no Teen Girl" before eating him at a fancy dinner. According to the second vulture, Mr. Pitters tastes "quite good, quite good." They may be an evolution of the vulture from Issue 2. They also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
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|[[Image:Port-O-John.png|150px|Starring Johnny Rite There as some sort of king.]] ||
=====Port-O-John=====
Port-O-John is a portable outhouse that came to life by growing eyes, a nose, a moustache, a mouth, hands and feet. A sign on his side reads ''Johnny Rite There''.It put on a play with So and So once Cheerleader died in Teen Girl Squad Issue 9. It didn't get very good reviews, however, and he is killed by [[Arrow'd Guy]].
 
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|Issue 10]]==
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=====A Mighty Warrior=====
A [[Wikipedia:Samurai|samurai]] armed with a [[Wikipedia:Naginata|naginata]] who bursts twice from corn-based products: "corn and corn alone" and corn chips. Both times he does so because they are "no place for a mighty warrior." After emerging from the corn chips, he lathe'd a spinning What's Her Face in two with his naginata. He also appeared in an Easter egg for [[myths & legends]], fighting the corn army.
 
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|[[Image:Coach and olympic man.png|150px|We're not sure what they're talking about, either]] ||

=====Olympic Man and Coach=====
A lonely pair at the "Olympic Race," Olympic Man and Coach prepare for some type of sporting event after being ditched by Cheerleader. Coach apparently brings this about by telling Cheerleader over the phone that "the olympics are soooo dumb!", though Coach vehemently denies this to his well-muscled companion, who apparently has no hands.
 
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|[[Image:TGS_Scotsmen.PNG|150px|ACHGH!]] ||
=====Scotsmen=====
This "uppaclass" trio of burly, bearded, kilted Scots were drinking a frothy brew from a keg marked "XXX" when they were interrupted by Cheerleader's flirtation. Predictably, she was rejected and caber-tossed only 23 metres away for her efforts.
 
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|[[Image:Manolio's.png|150px|p4wned!]] ||

=====Manolios Ugly One=====
The Ugly One's father. Owns [[Minor Companies|Manolios Ugly One's Lectro-pawn]], specializing in used and broken electronic goods. ''See main article: [[Manolios Ugly One]]''
 
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== Other ==
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=====Brainkrieg=====
Seen in [[death metal]], Brainkrieg is a death metal band in [[Strong Bad]]'s imagination that seems to use all of the wrong "d-e" words in their song. They also frequently use the phrase "Jugga jigga wugga". Cheerleader seems to be a fan—she comes for the wuggas, but stays for the jiggy juggas. They also received last place in The Battle of the Crappy High School Bands.
 
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|[[Image:Cornarmy.png|150px|No match.]] ||
=====The Corn Army=====
The army debuted in an Easter Egg in [[myths & legends]]. It is apparently led by Cephas Cornwall, but is no match for A Mighty Warrior.
 
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{{Teen Girl Squad}}

[[Category: Teen Girl Squad Characters]]

Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters

2006-02-15T16:51:00Z

Spell4yr: Corn Army

Some characters make a very brief appearance in [[Teen Girl Squad]], often hurting one of the girls. Usually they are never seen again, but in the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|10th Issue special]], many of these characters made cameo appearances at [[The Ugly One]]'s Sweet Someteen Birthday Bash.
[[Image:Sweetsometeen.PNG|500px|thumb|A party of minor characters]]
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1|Issue 1]]==

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=====A Helicopter=====
This helicopter attacked some [[The Birds|birds]] with machine guns. Surprisingly, this aircraft was the first object to harm living creatures in the entire series, yet its victims did not include one of the girls. [[Strong Bad]] supplied the rapid fire noise of its deadly projectiles.
 
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| [[Image:Dinosaur.PNG|150px|Bend It Like Beckhamasaurus Rex]] ||
=====The Dinosaur=====
The [[Dinosaurs|dinosaur]] punted [[What's Her Face]] across the cartoon. Just after this, she was heard to remark, "Dag, yo." She is presumed to have died upon landing. The dinosaur also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza, where it was revealed to have bloody teeth.
 
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 2|Issue 2]]==
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|[[Image:Cloud_Monster.PNG|150px|Bad weather]] ||
=====Cloud Monster=====
As the girls go to look so good, a cloud in the background grows angry eyes and a mouthful of sharp teeth. This cloud monster quickly chomped on some [[The Birds|birds]].
 
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|[[Image:paul_no_I_in_team.png|150px|No "I" in dead either]] ||
=====No "i" in team boy=====
He is a boy who goes out with [[So and So]], which causes her friends to get jealous. When So and So mentions that she's totally crushing, the boy gets hit by a school bus (driven by [[Arrow'd Guy]]) marked "'''CHILDREN'''". He also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza. He appears again, silhouetted, in an Easter egg in the email [[death metal]].
 
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|[[Image:Vulture.png|left|150px|SWOOP'D!!]] 
[[Image:Bat.png|left|150px|GRASP'D!]]
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=====The Vulture and the Bat=====
The Vulture swooped [[The Ugly One]] when she got jealous of [[So and So]]'s getting the "No I In Team Boy" to date her. The Bat grasped [[Cheerleader]] for the same reasons as the vulture.
 
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3|Issue 3]]==
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| [[Image:Buzzsaw sun.png|150px|Preeow!]] ||
=====Buzzsaw Sun=====
The sun turned into a buzzsaw, and chopped up some [[The Birds|birds]] in this episode.
 
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|[[Image:Thrift_Store_Girl.PNG|150px|Boy or girl?]] ||
=====Thrift Store Person=====
This person is found at the thrift store that [[What's Her Face]] shopped at, where she stays behind a rack of shirts, holding a sign that reads, "1 or 2 cent each item." In the [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]] DVD commentary, Strong Bad says that she is a "homeless woman."
 
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|[[Image:Possum_Attack.PNG|150px|"Poooosssssummmmms...!"]] ||

=====Possums=====
A wave of possums, announced by a menacingly voiced "Poooosssssummmmms...!" attacked What's Her Face as she walked home from the thrift store. They got her dirty and tore her clothing, but didn't kill her. When she met up with the other girls, one possum was seen still attacking her. The possum attack apparently made [[What's Her Face]]'s blood hurt. They also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza. 
 
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4|Issue 4]]==
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| [[Image:Pierced_Heart.PNG|150px|Cupid strikes back]] ||
=====Brett Bretterson=====
Brett is an imaginary person who So And So made up in first grade. He is mentioned in Teen Girl Squad Issues 4 and 10. Ignoring her friends' denial of Brett's reality, So And So interacts with "Brett" as if she could actually see and hear him. This causes the other girls to be weirded out. Brett and So And So were going to study together when their plans were ended abruptly by falling in the Fighting Growlbacks [[Bottomless Pits|Bottomless Spirit Pit]].

So And So is in love with Brett, and when she thinks of him hearts appear over her head. One of them grew a face just as it was pierced with an arrow.

In the tenth episode, So And So states that she and Brett Bretterson are "Splitsville".

Brett may or may not be a real person, too; he is listed in the [[best thing#Credits listed|credits]] for [[Limozeen: "but they're in space!"]] as the "Worst animator". Strong Bad confirms this in the [[best thing#Commentary Transcript|DVD commentary]] for [[best thing]].
 
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| [[Image:quarterback.png|150px|Quarterman]] ||
=====Quarterback=====
The quarterback for the Fighting Growlbacks is a target of the affections of [[Cheerleader]]. He dismisses her with the quip "How's about you get some brains?" This causes Cheerleader to get CEREBELLUM'D by [[Arrow'd Guy]]'s [[Minor_Teen_Girl_Squad_Characters#Giant_Brain_Mech|Giant Brain Mech]]. He also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
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|[[Image:Cerebellumed_Cheerleader.PNG|150px|Cerebellum'd!]] ||
=====Giant Brain Mech=====
The Giant Brain Mech is a giant brain with lips and an eye patch. It is apparently mechanical, because [[Arrow'd Guy]] can be seen controlling the brain under a glass dome. The brain CEREBELLUM'D! [[Cheerleader]] when the Quarterback suggested that she should go get some brains.
 
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5|Issue 5]]==
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|[[Image:perchingbird.png|150px|PERCH!]] ||
=====Fat Bird=====
The fat bird is first seen in Issue 5, perched on the "meanwhile, ON VACATION" sign in the transition scene. Later in the cartoon, when The Ugly One gets nervous and sticks her head in the sand, the fat bird flies down and perches on her side. The bird doesn't seem to do anything after that. It just sits there with its tongue hanging out for the rest of the cartoon.
 
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| [[Image:oldaboys.png|150px|Lying around...]] ||
=====Olda Boys=====
The olda boys are college boys that were at the vacation beach with Cheerleader, So and So, and The Ugly One. One misses video games, but the other misses his mom even more. They can combine their sayings into a pretty cool jam. The longer-haired one earned a [[Quote of the Week]]. They also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
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|[[Image:Famous or Cool Guys.PNG|150px|Cool or famous]] ||
=====[[Wikipedia:Henry Rollins|Henry Rollins]], [[Wikipedia:Abraham Lincoln|Abraham Lincoln]], and [[Wikipedia:George Washington|George Washington]]=====
These are the "cool or famous" people who look at the nervous The Ugly One and then parasail with So and So. They also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza. There, Henry Rollins was revealed to be an odd red color, a likely reference to [http://21361.com/site_2004/watch_listen.html the music video for "Liar"] (from the album Weight--Henry Rollins Band, Imago Records 1994).
 
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==[[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad|Issue 6]]==
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=====Gift Exchange Lion=====
This [[Lions|lion]], who seems to be missing a leg, appears in Decemberween Teen Girl Squad. Cheerleader, So and So, and The Ugly One all dive into its mouth in pursuit of [[Decemberween]] presents, but What's Her Face declines. For some reason the [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Inside the Lion|inside of the lion]] looks like the inside of a whale. He also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
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|[[Image:smileyfaceman.png|150px|A nose from the happy judge]] ||
=====Smiley Face Man=====
This happy fellow is a judge in the Decemberween Teen Girl Squad. He and the other two judges (who are both [[Arrow'd Guy]]) TWO'D The Ugly One for her cannonball into the Gift Exchange Lion's mouth. He rates Cheerleader's dive into the lion's mouth a "nose" along with the other judges. Noticeable is the fact that he can move his arms along his skinny body. His "shoulder" is not visible until he lifts up the sign. Little else is known about this person, or what the value of a "nose" is in competitive Lion's mouth jumping. He also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
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|[[Image:hawiianguy.png|150px|Singing about babies]] ||
=====Hawaiian Guy=====
This musician wears a Hawaiian shirt and plays a ukulele. He sang "Wave o' Babies" as a wave of babies appeared. He also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
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| [[Image:Wave of Babies.PNG|150px|A virtual tsunami of infants.]] ||

=====Wave o' Babies=====
These babies are in a giant wave that crashed into What's Her Face. They are seen caving onto What's Her Face, but the actual crash is not shown. It is possible that the wave just swept past without stopping. This is further supported by the fact that after the crash, only two babies are visible clinging onto What's Her Face, while all the others are gone. They also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
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|[[Image:gazelle_carcass_half-digested.PNG|150px|Bonus: Half-Digested!]] ||
=====Gazelle Carcass=====
This half-digested animal is presented by [[The Ugly One]] at the very end of Decemberween Teen Girl Squad to [[Cheerleader]] to her dismay. All of the other girls seem to be pleased at the sight of the dead animal, despite the negative aspects of decomposing carcasses.
 
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7|Issue 7]]==
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=====Fat Man=====
He's a fat man who wears a singlet similar to Strong Mad's. He fell down a slide and squished Teeny Tiny Cheerleader while she was throwing a tantrum. He bears a striking resemblance to pro wrestler [[Wikipedia:Chris Pallies|King Kong Bundy]].
 
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| [[Image:billbellamy.png|150px|The bell tolls for thee]] ||
=====Bill Bellamy=====
This is the bell seen in Issue 7 in the Teeny Tiny Girl Squad's [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Diaper School|preschool]]. His role is similar to that of the Intercom, but specific relationship details are unknown. He bears the same name as actor and comedian [[IMDB:nm0004740|Bill Bellamy]].
 
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|Issue 8]]==
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=====Intercom=====
The intercom is a feature of the Teen Girl Squad's school. As it is hanging up high in the girls' classroom, it is responsible for announcing things like the school lunch and commands. Later in the cartoon, the Intercom is seen mounted on a robot body, hosting the Battle of the Bands. It introduced the bands "Fatty's Big Chance" and the Teen Girl Squad "[[Kissyboots]]." It also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party on its stand, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza, nursing a martini.
 
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|[[Image:floortommed.png|150px|Floor Tom, the evil drum]] ||

=====Floor Tom=====
When [[The Ugly One]] does her 16-hour drum solo, she was rudely interrupted by an evil floor tom (a type of drum included in a drumset that stands on the floor with 3 legs) when it FLOOR TOMMED her by biting her top half off. This was just one of three events that stopped her drum solo, as she was also STEP-MOMMED and POM POMMED.
 
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|[[Image:stepmom.jpg|150px|"YOU LITTLE BRATS BEST SHUT YER YAPS!!!"]] ||
=====Mrs. So-and-so-erson=====
Mrs. So-and-so-[[Names ending in -erson|erson]] is [[So and So]]'s "step-mom". "She" resembles [[Arrow'd Guy]] in lipstick and a jogging suit; it's debatable whether she is in fact the same person. As [[Cheerleader]] states, she has questionable taste, which is agreed upon by [[What's Her Face]] after observing the many jogging suits in her [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson's Walk-in Closet|walk-in closet]]. She "STEP-MOMMED" [[The Ugly One]] by pouring ranch dressing on her during her 16-hour drum solo.
 
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|[[Image:FattysBigChance2.png|150px|Consider it Picked!]] ||

=====Fatty=====
Fatty is the sole member of the one-man saxophone band, "Fatty's Big Chance." He played before Kissyboots in the Battle of The Bands. With his [[Wikipedia:Two Tone|two tone]] suit and rousing chant of "pick it up, pick it up," Fatty is a [[Wikipedia:Ska|ska]] machine. He also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
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|[[Image:Trollswantautograph.PNG|150px|KRA'AGH!]] ||

=====Trolls=====
The trolls enter So and So's dressing room while [[So and So]] is preparing for the Battle of the Bands. In their native tongue, they ask her for her autograph. Apparently So and So can understand them, and is happy to oblige. But before she could sign, she was TWELVE-SIDED DiED!, inexplicably by a 20-sided die. They also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza. One of the trolls appears again, silhouetted, in an Easter egg in the email [[death metal]].
 
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|[[Image:whatsherfacesshark.PNG|150px|A seaworthy bass]] ||
=====A Shark=====
At the Battle of the Bands, [[What's Her Face]]'s bass guitar suddenly transforms into a shark. "My bass feels seaworthy," she says. Suddenly, the shark bites off the upper half of her body. "Ahhh! My most of me!" she laments.

Amazingly, the shark can also play a mean bass even without fingers. Cheerleader keeps him on to play backup and the remaining member(s) of Kissyboots finish the performance respectably. Alas, after the song ends, the shark can be heard snacking on Cheerleader.
 
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|Issue 9]]==
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=====Learner's Permit Girl=====
This girl first appears in Teen Girl Squad Issue 9. She is not a very good driver, and ends up DRiVER'S ED'ED...DEADing Cheerleader. On the plus side, she gives Strong Bad a ride to Babbage's. She also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
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|[[Image:SciFiGreg.png|120px|He knew she'd come back to him]] ||
=====Science Fiction Greg=====
Science Fiction Greg is an old boyfriend of What's Her Face, and, judging by his name, is a science fiction fan. After Cheerleader died, he admits that he knew that she would come back to him. He also claims that his experience points went into triple digits and he has since needed to keep the ladies and valkyries off with a two-handed +3 broad sword. As these are all Dungeons and Dragons terms, this claim bites D N' D Greg's style.
 
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|[[Image:SciFiGregPallies.PNG|152px|Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum]] ||

=====Friends of Science Fiction Greg=====
Putative friends of Science Fiction Greg. They listen patiently as he brags about his relationship with What's Her Face and his experience points. The character on the left bears a resemblance to an overweight character often found in Gary Larson's [[Wikipedia:Far Side|Far Side]] cartoons.
 
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|[[Image:DndGreg.PNG|152px|Doesn't like his style bitten]] ||

=====D N'D Greg=====
An apparent [[Wikipedia:Dungeons and Dragons|Dungeons and Dragons]] expert. Science Fiction Greg's boasting bites his style.
 
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|[[Image:Vultures.PNG|150px|Vulture'd!]] ||

=====Vultures=====
When [[Mr. Pitters]] tries to join the Teen Girl Squad, these fiendish birds tell him that he "ain't no Teen Girl" before eating him at a fancy dinner. According to the second vulture, Mr. Pitters tastes "quite good, quite good." They may be an evolution of the vulture from Issue 2. They also appeared in the sweet someteenth birthday party, part of the Tenthennial Extravaganza.
 
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|[[Image:Port-O-John.png|150px|Starring Johnny Rite There as some sort of king.]] ||
=====Port-O-John=====
Port-O-John is a portable outhouse that came to life by growing eyes, a nose, a moustache, a mouth, hands and feet. A sign on his side reads ''Johnny Rite There''.It put on a play with So and So once Cheerleader died in Teen Girl Squad Issue 9. It didn't get very good reviews, however, and he is killed by [[Arrow'd Guy]].
 
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==[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|Issue 10]]==
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=====A Mighty Warrior=====
A [[Wikipedia:Samurai|samurai]] armed with a [[Wikipedia:Naginata|naginata]] who bursts twice from corn-based products: "corn and corn alone" and corn chips. Both times he does so because they are "no place for a mighty warrior." After emerging from the corn chips, he lathe'd a spinning What's Her Face in two with his naginata. He also appeared in an Easter egg for [[myths & legends]], fighting the corn army.
 
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|[[Image:Coach and olympic man.png|150px|We're not sure what they're talking about, either]] ||

=====Olympic Man and Coach=====
A lonely pair at the "Olympic Race," Olympic Man and Coach prepare for some type of sporting event after being ditched by Cheerleader. Coach apparently brings this about by telling Cheerleader over the phone that "the olympics are soooo dumb!", though Coach vehemently denies this to his well-muscled companion, who apparently has no hands.
 
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|[[Image:TGS_Scotsmen.PNG|150px|ACHGH!]] ||
=====Scotsmen=====
This "uppaclass" trio of burly, bearded, kilted Scots were drinking a frothy brew from a keg marked "XXX" when they were interrupted by Cheerleader's flirtation. Predictably, she was rejected and caber-tossed only 23 metres away for her efforts.
 
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|[[Image:Manolio's.png|150px|p4wned!]] ||

=====Manolios Ugly One=====
The Ugly One's father. Owns [[Minor Companies|Manolios Ugly One's Lectro-pawn]], specializing in used and broken electronic goods. ''See main article: [[Manolios Ugly One]]''
 
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|[[Image:Strong bad email D.PNG|150px|jugga jigga wugga]] ||
=====Brainkrieg=====
Seen in [[death metal]], Brainkrieg is a death metal band in [[Strong Bad]]'s imagination that seems to use all of the wrong "d-e" words in their song. They also frequently use the phrase "Jugga jigga wugga". Cheerleader seems to be a fan—she comes for the wuggas, but stays for the jiggy juggas. They also received last place in The Battle of the Crappy High School Bands.
 
|}
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|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Image !! Description
|-
|[[Image:Cornarmy.png|150px|No match.]] ||
=====The Corn Army=====
The army debuted in an Easter Egg in [[myths & legends]]. It is apparently led by Cephas Cornwall, but is no match for A Mighty Warrior.
 
|}
{{Teen Girl Squad}}

[[Category: Teen Girl Squad Characters]]

File:Cornarmy.png

2006-02-15T16:45:27Z

Spell4yr: The army waging war with A Mighty Warrior in myths & legends.

The army waging war with A Mighty Warrior in [[myths & legends]].

Integral Article

2006-02-15T16:37:26Z

Spell4yr: /* Teen Girl Squad */

A few [[Characters]]/[[Characters#PseudoCharacters|PseudoCharacters]] have a name with the [[Wikipedia:Article (grammar)|definite article]] '''The''' in front. With occasional exceptions, these characters are always referred to with the definite article, regardless of how odd it makes the construction of the sentence ("He won a lifetime supply of fish sticks, and a The Cheat!") In some instances, however, this rule is overlooked or suspended. For instance, in [[replacement]], [[Strong Bad]] calls over an intercom, "Attention The Cheat!", though at the end of the email Strong Bad says, "...and kicking Cheats in the hereafter." Also, in the beginning of [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]], The Strong Man is just shown as "Strong Man."

On a side note, Wizard's character page on the [[Mellow Mushroom]] site has a page title that reads: "Not THE Wizard, Just Wizard."

==Main Characters==

<gallery>
Image:modernthecheat.gif|<center>'''[[The Cheat]]'''</center>
Image:kot.PNG|<center>'''[[The King of Town]]'''</center>
Image:poopsmith.PNG|<center>'''[[The Poopsmith]]'''</center>
</gallery>

==Secondary Characters==

===The King's Servants===

<gallery>
Image:bishop.png|<center>'''[[The Bishop]]'''</center>
Image:blacksmith.PNG|<center>'''[[The Blacksmith]]'''</center>
Image:hornblower.png|<center>'''[[The Hornblower]]'''</center>
Image:the knight.png|<center>'''[[The Knight]]'''</center>
Image:Little Chef Dude KOT DVD.PNG|<center>'''[[The Little Chef Guy]]'''</center>
</gallery>

===Storybook Characters===

<gallery>
Image:Prince of Town.png|<center>'''[[The Prince of Town]]'''</center>
Image:TheRobot.png|<center>'''[[The Robot]]'''</center>
</gallery>

===Mascots===

<gallery>
Image:Jolly Dumple.PNG|<center>'''[[The Jolly Dumple]]'''</center>
</gallery>

===Pseudocharacters===

<gallery>
Image:qod_31_-_geddup_noise.png|<center>'''[[The Geddup Noise]]'''</center>
Image:close Paper.png|<center>'''[[The Paper]]'''</center>
Image:TheStick.png|<center>'''[[The Stick]]'''</center>
</gallery>

===Miscellaneous===

<gallery>
Image:deadlypallor.png|<center>'''[[The Deathly Pallor]]'''</center>
Image:Thedenzel.png|<center>'''[[The Denzel]]'''</center>
Image:teh goblin.PNG|<center>'''[[The Goblin]]'''</center>
Image:the two kids.png|<center>'''[[The Sad Kids]]'''</center>
Image:the teach.PNG|<center>'''[[The Teach]]'''</center>
Image:Thnikkaman.png|<center>'''[[The Thnikkaman]]'''</center>
Image:yellodello.png|<center>'''[[The Yello Dello]]'''</center>
</gallery>

==Also known as...==

===Old Timey===

<gallery>
Image:barbershop trio.PNG|<center>'''[[The Barbershop Trio]]'''</center>
Image:dapplerswindler.png|<center>'''[[The Dapper Swindler]]'''</center>
Image:thedevil.png|<center>'''[[The Demon]]'''</center>
Image:coachz1936.png|<center>'''[[The Fort Wayne Locomotive]]'''</center>
Image:the guys.PNG|<center>'''[[The Guys]]'''</center>
Image:thehstarr2.png|<center>'''[[The Homestar Runner]]'''</center>
Image:1936 KOT.png|<center>'''[[The Kaiser]]'''</center>
Image:thesneak.PNG|<center>'''[[The Sneak]]'''</center>
Image:strongman.png|<center>'''[[Strong Man|The Strong Man]]'''</center>
</gallery>

===20X6===

<gallery>
Image:Chibi Avatar.gif|<center>'''[[20X6 The Cheat]]'''</center>
</gallery>

===Decemberween===

<gallery>
Image:angel.png|<center>'''[[The Angel]]'''</center>
Image:Strong sad first decemberween.png|<center>'''[[The First Decemberween]]'''</center>
Image:kotdecemberween.PNG|<center>'''[[The King of Town (Decemberween)]]'''</center>
Image:popularvote.png|<center>'''[[The Popular Vote]]'''</center>
</gallery>

==Created Worlds==

===Teen Girl Squad===

<gallery>
Image:tgs-uglyone.PNG|<center>'''[[The Ugly One]]'''</center>
Image:A_mighty_warrior.png|<center>'''[[Minor_Teen_Girl_Squad_Characters#A_Mighty_Warrior|A Mighty Warrior]]'''''(usage of an indefinite article)''</center>
</gallery>

===Folk Tale World===

<gallery>
Image:DancingBros.PNG|<center>'''[[The Dancing Brothers]]'''</center>
</gallery>

[[Category:Running Gags]]

Integral Article

2006-02-15T16:36:54Z

Spell4yr: /* Teen Girl Squad */ A Mighty Warrior

A few [[Characters]]/[[Characters#PseudoCharacters|PseudoCharacters]] have a name with the [[Wikipedia:Article (grammar)|definite article]] '''The''' in front. With occasional exceptions, these characters are always referred to with the definite article, regardless of how odd it makes the construction of the sentence ("He won a lifetime supply of fish sticks, and a The Cheat!") In some instances, however, this rule is overlooked or suspended. For instance, in [[replacement]], [[Strong Bad]] calls over an intercom, "Attention The Cheat!", though at the end of the email Strong Bad says, "...and kicking Cheats in the hereafter." Also, in the beginning of [[Parsnips-A-Plenty]], The Strong Man is just shown as "Strong Man."

On a side note, Wizard's character page on the [[Mellow Mushroom]] site has a page title that reads: "Not THE Wizard, Just Wizard."

==Main Characters==

<gallery>
Image:modernthecheat.gif|<center>'''[[The Cheat]]'''</center>
Image:kot.PNG|<center>'''[[The King of Town]]'''</center>
Image:poopsmith.PNG|<center>'''[[The Poopsmith]]'''</center>
</gallery>

==Secondary Characters==

===The King's Servants===

<gallery>
Image:bishop.png|<center>'''[[The Bishop]]'''</center>
Image:blacksmith.PNG|<center>'''[[The Blacksmith]]'''</center>
Image:hornblower.png|<center>'''[[The Hornblower]]'''</center>
Image:the knight.png|<center>'''[[The Knight]]'''</center>
Image:Little Chef Dude KOT DVD.PNG|<center>'''[[The Little Chef Guy]]'''</center>
</gallery>

===Storybook Characters===

<gallery>
Image:Prince of Town.png|<center>'''[[The Prince of Town]]'''</center>
Image:TheRobot.png|<center>'''[[The Robot]]'''</center>
</gallery>

===Mascots===

<gallery>
Image:Jolly Dumple.PNG|<center>'''[[The Jolly Dumple]]'''</center>
</gallery>

===Pseudocharacters===

<gallery>
Image:qod_31_-_geddup_noise.png|<center>'''[[The Geddup Noise]]'''</center>
Image:close Paper.png|<center>'''[[The Paper]]'''</center>
Image:TheStick.png|<center>'''[[The Stick]]'''</center>
</gallery>

===Miscellaneous===

<gallery>
Image:deadlypallor.png|<center>'''[[The Deathly Pallor]]'''</center>
Image:Thedenzel.png|<center>'''[[The Denzel]]'''</center>
Image:teh goblin.PNG|<center>'''[[The Goblin]]'''</center>
Image:the two kids.png|<center>'''[[The Sad Kids]]'''</center>
Image:the teach.PNG|<center>'''[[The Teach]]'''</center>
Image:Thnikkaman.png|<center>'''[[The Thnikkaman]]'''</center>
Image:yellodello.png|<center>'''[[The Yello Dello]]'''</center>
</gallery>

==Also known as...==

===Old Timey===

<gallery>
Image:barbershop trio.PNG|<center>'''[[The Barbershop Trio]]'''</center>
Image:dapplerswindler.png|<center>'''[[The Dapper Swindler]]'''</center>
Image:thedevil.png|<center>'''[[The Demon]]'''</center>
Image:coachz1936.png|<center>'''[[The Fort Wayne Locomotive]]'''</center>
Image:the guys.PNG|<center>'''[[The Guys]]'''</center>
Image:thehstarr2.png|<center>'''[[The Homestar Runner]]'''</center>
Image:1936 KOT.png|<center>'''[[The Kaiser]]'''</center>
Image:thesneak.PNG|<center>'''[[The Sneak]]'''</center>
Image:strongman.png|<center>'''[[Strong Man|The Strong Man]]'''</center>
</gallery>

===20X6===

<gallery>
Image:Chibi Avatar.gif|<center>'''[[20X6 The Cheat]]'''</center>
</gallery>

===Decemberween===

<gallery>
Image:angel.png|<center>'''[[The Angel]]'''</center>
Image:Strong sad first decemberween.png|<center>'''[[The First Decemberween]]'''</center>
Image:kotdecemberween.PNG|<center>'''[[The King of Town (Decemberween)]]'''</center>
Image:popularvote.png|<center>'''[[The Popular Vote]]'''</center>
</gallery>

==Created Worlds==

===Teen Girl Squad===

<gallery>
Image:tgs-uglyone.PNG|<center>'''[[The Ugly One]]'''</center>
Image:A_mighty_warrior.png|<center>'''[[Minor_Teen_Girl_Squad_Characters#A_Mighty_Warrior|A Mighty Warrior]]'''|''(usage of an indefinite article)''</center>
</gallery>

===Folk Tale World===

<gallery>
Image:DancingBros.PNG|<center>'''[[The Dancing Brothers]]'''</center>
</gallery>

[[Category:Running Gags]]

H*R.com updates 2005

2006-02-15T16:29:34Z

Spell4yr: /* Monday, June 6, 2005 */ I can't believe I never noticed this before ...

{{updates-box}}
This is a log of all of the changes that happened at [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|H*R.com]] during 2005.

==Wednesday, December 28, 2005==
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2005#December 28, 2005|Holiday sales extended until January 8th.]]

==Wednesday, December 21, 2005==
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2005#December 21, 2005|Last chance for Decemberween orders]]

==Thursday, December 8, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-12-08|You say tomater, I zader matermorts.]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-12-08|4rt b4ndit strikes again]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-12-08|these are gross looking]]

==Monday, December 5, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #139: [[portrait]]

==Monday, November 28, 2005==
*[[Puppet Stuff]]: [[Homestar vs. Other Little Girl]]
*[[Store]]: [[Decemberween]] [[Store Front Page News 2005#November 28, 2005|sale]]

==Friday, November 25, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-11-25|Let's sing a song of Pennzoil!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-11-25|sweet sterrance bag]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-11-25|alternate sb float]]

==Monday, November 21, 2005==
*[[Holiday Toons|Holiday Toon]]: [[Fall Float Parade]]

==Thursday, November 17, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-11-17|I'll be marching around in gold pants in no time!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-11-17|lego fan sculptures]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-11-17|hot 60's-looking girls?]]

==Wednesday, November 16, 2005==
*[[Store]]: Footer changed to [[Store#Store Footer|autumn]] theme.

==Monday, November 14, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #138: [[space program]]
*[[Store]]: [[Everything Else]], [[Everything Else, Volume 1|Volume 1]] [[Store Front Page News 2005#November 14, 2005|for sale]]

==Thursday, November 10, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-11-10|The punishment is not too bad, eh?]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-11-10|see gee en you!]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-11-10|kot-z top]]

==Tuesday, November 8, 2005==
*[[Store]]: [[Store#Messenger Bags|Messenger bag]] sale

==Monday, November 7, 2005==
*[[Holiday Toons|Holiday Toon]]: [[More Fan Costumes]]

==Thursday, November 3, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-11-03|You're pretty good, shorty! That's worth an Under Siege 2 collector's spoon!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-11-03|kids dig the cheat]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-11-03|ryan]]

==Tuesday, November 1, 2005==
*[[Holiday Toons|Holiday Toon]]: [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]

==Monday, October 31, 2005==
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] message: ''workin as fast as we can''

==Thursday, October 27, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-10-27|Oh! Very mean things...to say. Funny also, too.]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-10-27|fatbody sb bobblehead]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-10-27|uh oh, maggot man sketches]]

==Monday, October 24, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #137: [[bedtime story]]
*[[Store]]: [[Store#polo_sb|Strong Bad Polo Shirt]] [[Store Front Page News 2005#October 24, 2005|for sale]]
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] message: ''email soon''

==Sunday, October 23, 2005==
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] message: ''atlanta fans click here!'' removed.

==Friday, October 21, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-10-21|Strong Bad is a bad guy, bad guy, bad guy.]]"

==Thursday, October 20, 2005==
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] message regarding [[Paste Rock 'n Reel Festival - 22 October 2005|2005 Paste Rock 'n Reel Festival]]: ''atlanta fans click here!''
<blockquote>Mike and Matt are doing a H*R 
screening at Paste Magazine's 
Rock 'n Reel Festival this Saturday 
Oct. 22nd at 2:30 in Decatur, GA. 
Cool bands, fun times, check it out: 
[http://www.pasterocknreel.com pasterocknreel.com]</blockquote>
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-10-20|The good times are over!!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-10-20|no way am i usin' orange]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-10-20|potential hotgly ones]]

==Monday, October 17, 2005==
*[[Toons|Short]]: [[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]]
*[[Punkin Stencils]] updated with [[:Image:logo.png|Homestar Runner logo]], [[Li'l Brudder]], [[Rather Dashing]] and [[Sterrance]] designs.
*[[Store]]: [[Store#tshirt_lil_brudder|Li'l Brudder T-Shirt]] [[Store Front Page News 2005#October 17, 2005|for sale]]

==Monday, October 10, 2005==
*[[Teen Girl Squad]]: [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|Issue 10]]

==Thursday, October 6, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-10-06|Come on in heeeeere.]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-10-06|sweet cheatpod sleeve]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-10-06|160 vlin 12, 17 at 26]]

==Monday, October 3, 2005==
*[[Toons|Short]]: [[Sick Day]]
*[[Store]]: [[Store#figurines_cheat_commandos|Cheat Commandos Figurines]] [[Store Front Page News 2005#October 3, 2005|for sale]]
*[[Cheat Commandos Playsets]] availible

==Thursday, September 29, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: [[Quote of the Week#2005-09-29|The Geddup Noise indie-tronic remix by DJ Teh Cheat.]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-09-29|pixel blocks homestar]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-09-29|portly washboy]]

==Wednesday, September 28, 2005==
*Recent [[Store]] message changed; '''Toys''' → '''Figurines'''. [[:Image:commandos tease.jpg|Photos]] were also added.

==Monday, September 26, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #136: "[[geddup noise]]"
*[[Store]]: [[Store#Baseball Caps|Trogdor Baseball Caps]] and [[Store#Tote Bag|Teen Girl Squad Tote Bags]] [[Store Front Page News 2005#September 26, 2005|for sale]]

==Thursday, September 22, 2005==
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2005#September 22, 2005|New Cheat Commandos Toys, Tote Bags, Shirts, and a DVD coming soon]]
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-09-22|Can you spare any mush for me?]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-09-22|homestarbeque]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-09-22|dreamaway johnny]]

==Monday, September 19, 2005==
*[[Main Page 23]]

==Thursday, September 15, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-09-15|Oh, I really need to go grocery shopping. I wish my girlfriend didn't leave me.]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-09-15|fairly on point kings]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-09-15|pom pom's hypothetical family]]

==Tuesday, September 13, 2005==
*[[Toons|Short]]: [[Commandos in the Classroom]]

==Monday, September 12, 2005==
*[[Random Toon#Random Toon Button|Random toon button]] added to [[Main Pages|Main Page]].
*[[Random Toon#random.bat|random.bat]] added to [[Strong Bad Email|Strong Bad Email Menu]].
*[[Random Toon#Navigation Bar|rando]] added to the [[HR:main_nav.swf|navbar]].
*Message added to [[Main Pages|Main Page]]: ''new toon soon!''
*[[Store]]: [[Store#Kick The Cheat|Kick The Cheat The Cheat]] [[Store Front Page News 2005#September 12, 2005|back in stock]]
*[[Scroll Button Songs]]: "Scroll buttons and random, you can't handle 'em. Just the way I planned 'em. Everybody likes... you... friend."
*"more-->" label added to the Lappy's scroll bar.

==Friday, September 9, 2005==
*[[Strong Sad's Lament]]: Working For the Weak-End?
*[[Strong Sad's Lament]]: Richard Moll [[Strong Sad's Lament#Avatars|Avatar]] and [[Strong Sad's Lament#Taglines|Tagline]]: ''"Sweetheart, you can't buy the necessities of life with cookies."''

==Thursday, September 8, 2005==
*[[Store]]: "COMING SOON! A DVD containing all the [[Toons#Shorts|short cartoons]], [[Teen Girl Squad]] 'toons, and much more!"
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-09-08|What in Pete Sampras is going on here?!?]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-09-08|smooshed strongblecakes]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-09-08|the count abides]]

==Monday, September 5, 2005==
*[[Toons|Short]]: [[TrogdorCon '97]]
*[[Stinkoman 20X6]]: [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 9|Level 9]]
*[[Stinkomanual#Level_9_-_Turbolence|Level 9]] added to the [[Stinkomanual]].
*Icons added to the Stinkoman 20X6 selection screen.
*The colors on Stinkoman 20X6's "Continute" menu changed.
*Stinkoman 20X6's shooting mechanism changed to have longer range.
*[[Bobby Blackwolf Interview - 5 Sep 2005|Bobby Blackwolf Interview]] takes place

==Thursday, September 1, 2005==
*[[Strong Sad's Lament]]: Parade on my Rain
*[[Strong Sad's Lament]]: Bubo [[Strong Sad's Lament#Avatars|Avatar]] and [[Strong Sad's Lament#Taglines|Tagline]]: ''"The earth swarms with people who are not worth talking to."''
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-09-01|I want pudding!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-09-01|h jumping jacks man r]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-09-01|stinkotetsuo]]

==Wednesday, August 31, 2005==
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] message: ''h*r at dragoncon!''
<blockquote>'''Homestar Runner at DragonCon '05!''' 
 
'''Sept 2 - 5 Atlanta, GA''' 
 
We'll be selling our wares at '''booth #101''' in the '''Exhibitor's Hall''' for all 4 days of DragonCon! We're way back in the back left corner. Try not to get twelve-sided died on your way over. 
 
Stop by for discounted merchandise and '''FREE''' high fives! The Brothers Chaps, the Family Chaps, and other members of the Homestar crew will be manning the booth throughout the weekend. Look for '''puppet appearances''' and maybe some '''toons you've never seen before!''' 
 
We'll be offering DVDs, CDs, figurines, messenger bags, beanies, posters, stickers, patches, and Trogdor t-shirts. (it is ''DRAGON''con afterall) 
 
Visit [http://www.dragoncon.org/ dragoncon.org]* for directions, locations, and more info. 
 
''<nowiki>*</nowiki>Homestar Runner is NOT responsible for the content of this site. There's some seriously nerdy stuff on there. Browse at your own risk.''</blockquote>

==Thursday, August 25, 2005==
*[[Strong Sad's Lament]]: A Curious Email
*[[Strong Sad's Lament]]: Jim Jarmusch [[Strong Sad's Lament#Avatars|Avatar]] and [[Strong Sad's Lament#Taglines|Tagline]]: ''"Why am I here?"''
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-08-25|Those rotten little punks next door won't know what hit 'em when you...fill 'em...fulla lead.]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-08-25|strong bad drummer tat]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-08-25|more weird snakes]]

==Monday, August 22, 2005==
*[[Toons|Toon]]: [[A Folky Tale]]
*[[Store]]: [[Store#Beanie Caps|Beanie Caps]] [[Store Front Page News 2005#August 22, 2005|sale]]
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] message: ''new toon soon!''

==Thursday, August 18, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-08-18|Ready boys? 1-2-3-4 Cool tapes are cool 'cause they're where it's at. Cool tapes are cool and we like it like that...]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-08-18|hsr wedding invite]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-08-18|matt just drew these]]

==Wednesday, August 17, 2005==
*[[Strong Sad's Lament]]: Stats n' Stumps
*[[Strong Sad's Lament]]: Vince Guaraldi [[Strong Sad's Lament#Avatars|Avatar]] and [[Strong Sad's Lament#Taglines|Tagline]]: ''"We're just blowing through naptime."''

==Tuesday, August 16, 2005==
*[[Store]]: Trogdor [[Store#Beanie Caps|Beanie]]

==Monday, August 15, 2005==
*[[Toons|Toon]]: [[Cool Things]]

==Thursday, August 11, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-08-11|My left name is tremendous savings, Ms. America!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-08-11|beachface homsar]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-08-11|exag-a-homestar]]

==Monday, August 8, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #135: "[[lady...ing]]"
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2005#August 8, 2005|Super sale]]
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] message: ''email soon''

==Friday, August 5, 2005==
*[[Puppet Stuff]]: [[Biz Cas Fri 3]]

==Thursday, August 4, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-08-04|IT'S DAZZLE-MAZING!!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-08-04|ain't that a drag!]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-08-04|ilko concept art]]

==Monday, August 1, 2005==
*[[Stinkoman 20X6]]: [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0|Level -0]]
*[[Stinkomanual#Level_8_-_Negatory|Level 8]] added to the [[Stinkomanual]].

==Monday, July 25, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #134: "[[record book]]"
*[[Store]]: [[strongbad_email.exe]] [[strongbad_email.exe Disc Four|Disc 4]] [[Store Front Page News 2005#July 25, 2005|for sale]]

==Thursday, July 21, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-07-21|buttdance again, like the rhythm's down your pants now!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-07-21|beady little the cheat]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-07-21|whiteboard wet cheat]]

==Monday, July 11, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #133: "[[bottom 10]]"
*[[Store]]: [[Store#tshirt_HSR|HStarR]] and [[Store#tshirt_hs_lite|Homestar Lite T-Shirts]]
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2005#July 11, 2005|Old T-shirts replaced]]
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] message: ''new sbemail a-comin'''

==Friday, July 8, 2005==
*[[Puppet Stuff]]: [[Puppet Jam: Mission Control]] returned to site as 'lost puppet jam'.

==Thursday, July 7, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-07-07|A wagon full of pamcakes? In the Champeenship?! I'd like to see ya try!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-07-07|eh! steve pillow]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-07-07|matt's early homsars]]

==Wednesday, July 6, 2005==
*[[Stinkomanual#Level_7_-_Ice_2_Meet_U|Level 7]] added to the [[Stinkomanual]].

==Monday, July 4, 2005==
*[[Stinkoman 20X6]]: [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 7|Level 7]]
*[[Holiday Toons|Holiday Toon]]: [[Happy Fireworks]]

==Friday, July 1, 2005==
*[[Puppet Stuff]]: [[Biz Cas Fri 2]]

==Thursday, June 30, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-06-30|Check it out check it out check it out...etc.]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-06-30|a real sign in new jersey]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-06-30|strong sad as mike shank]]

==Monday, June 27, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #132: "[[modeling]]"

==Friday, June 24, 2005==
*[[Puppet Stuff]]: [[Biz Cas Fri 1]]
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] message: ''old shirts going away'' (Referring to Homestar Classic and Homestar Running)
*[[Store]]: [[Store Front Page News 2005#June 24, 2005|T-shirts coming and going]]

==Wednesday, June 23, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-06-23|You bet! Hit me on the slant!!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-06-23|fan basement & couch]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-06-23|riddle me twice limolosers!]]

==Monday, June 20, 2005==
*[[Teen Girl Squad]]: [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9|Issue 9]]

==Thursday, June 16, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-06-16|THE GOOD TIMES ARE OVER!!!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-06-16|trogdor the bubninator]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-06-16|homstar runner]]

==Friday, June 10, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-06-10|Naw, it can't be heaven. There's not enough Twinkies.]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-06-10|cool s c'n'c linocut]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-06-10|aunt gert doodle]]
*[[Alamo Drafthouse - 10 Jun 2005|Alamo Drafthouse]] takes place

==Monday, June 6, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #131: "[[boring (really)]]"
*[[Store]]: [[Store#tshirt_sb_head|Strong Bad Head T-Shirt]] and other [[Store Front Page News 2005#May 23 – June 6, 2005|various news items]]
*[[Scroll Button Songs]]: "And that's why I like to scroll, with scroll buttons"
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] message: ''new sbemail a-comin'''

==Thursday, June 2, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-06-02|AAAaaaAAh'm the human wedgie!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-06-02|the brothers chapstick]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-06-02|blue laser was gonna be an ungurait?!]]

==Monday, May 30, 2005==
*[[Holiday Toons|Holiday Toon]]: [[Senorial Day]]
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] message: ''New Short Shortly''

==Tuesday, May 24, 2005==
*[[Stinkomanual#Level_6_-_Stratosfear!|Level 6]] added to the [[Stinkomanual]]

==Monday, May 23, 2005==
*[[Flash Store]] abandoned, Yahoo [[Store]] redesigned; footer set at [[Store#Store Footer|summer]] theme.

==Monday, May 16, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #130: "[[do over]]"
*[[Stinkoman 20X6]]: [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 6|Level 6]]

==Thursday, May 12, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-05-12|I'm on a RAMPAGE!!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-05-12|stonehenge homestar?]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-05-12|the new style]]

==Monday, May 9, 2005==
*[[Stinkoman 20X6]]: [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 5|Level 5]]
*[[Toons|Toon]]: [[Bug In Mouth Disease]]
*[[Store]]: [[Store#tshirt_stinkoman_20X6|Stinkoman 20X6 T-Shirt]]
*Motor Con Message added:
<blockquote>Now you can buy Homestar Stuff at great Show Prices at some of the Comic Conventions and Shows around the Country.
The Homestar Runner booth will be staffed by Strong Dad and The Mother Chaps, so if you're in the area of one of these fine shows,
drop by and say hello! You can win door prizes - autographed merchandise!! And of course, you get freebies with every purchase!</blockquote>

==Sunday, May 8, 2005==
*[[All Things Considered Interview - 8 May 2005|All Things Considered Interview]] takes place

==Monday, May 2, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #129: "[[garage sale]]"
*[[Store]]: [[Store#Hooded Sweatshirts|Hoodie]] sale

==Thursday, April 28, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-04-28|Once again Biscuit Dough Hands Man slips through our fingers!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-04-28|feltstar creeper]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-04-28|fhqwhgads robot]]

==Tuesday, April 26, 2005==
*[[Stinkoman 20X6]] put back up with [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 4|Level 4]] and its [[Stinkomanual]] article
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 12.2]]

==Monday, April 25, 2005==
*[[Stinkoman 20X6]] temporarily removed from site.

==Thursday, April 21, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-04-21|Dong DIIING!!!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-04-21|sharkmobile pinewood derby. can it work?]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-04-21|but they're in space!]]

==Monday, April 18, 2005==
*[[Toons|Short]]: [[The Li'l Brudder Show]]

==Thursday, April 14, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-04-14|I'M THE HUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]"
**The "hear it" and "get it" font is now [[Fonts|Bauhaus 93]].
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-04-14|sweet sterrance doll]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-04-14|serpented!!]]

==Monday, April 11, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #128: "[[rampage]]"

==Monday, April 4, 2005==
*"[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]" put back up at a different location, and is added to Toons menu.

==Saturday, April 2, 2005==
*"[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]" removed from site.
*[[Videlectrix]]: [[Stinkoman 20X6]] music added.

==Friday, April 1, 2005==
*[[Holiday Toons|Holiday Toon]]: "[[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]]"

==Thursday, March 31, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-03-31|Well, folks, you know what that means: Now I'll do a dance.]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-03-31|graw mad dresser]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-03-31|der cheat geist]]

==Monday, March 28, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #127: "[[long pants]]"
*[[Store]]: Big spring sale

==Friday, March 25, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-03-25|Everybody knows me. Mine name cornbread.]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-03-25|'lectric tape hotness, yo]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-03-25|stinkoman as just some dude]]

==Monday, March 21, 2005 ==
*[[Games|Game]]: [[Stinkoman 20X6]] added with Levels [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 1|1]], [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 2|2]], and [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level 3|3]], complete with their [[Stinkomanual]] articles.
*[[Videlectrix]]: [[Stinkoman 20X6]] added with synopsis, box art, and main page message.

==Thursday, March 17, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-03-17|Stop what? I don't do nothing!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-03-17|my name stuffed bubs]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-03-17|problematics]]

==Monday, March 14, 2005==
*[[Puppet Stuff]]: [[Strong Bad vs. Little Girl!]]
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] message: ''cool new poster!''
*[[SXSW Panel - 14 Mar 2005|SXSW Panel]] takes place

==Friday, March 11, 2005==
*[[Store]]: [[Everybody Everybody Poster]]

==Thursday, March 10, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-03-10|Oh. Why do you...guys...like me anymore. I-I've lost it!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-03-10|dump tape wallet]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-03-10|trogdor age 6. drawn by billy age 4.]]

==Tuesday, March 8, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #126: "[[best thing]]"

==Monday, March 7, 2005==
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] message: ''new sbemail soon''

==Wednesday, March 2, 2005==
*"NYC fans!" message removed.

==Tuesday, March 1, 2005==
*Portion of "NYC fans! Updated!" changed to:

<blockquote>We'll be doing a talk 
at NYU tonight.
</blockquote>

*[[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|NYU Talk]] takes place

==Monday, February 28, 2005==
*Message entitled "NYC fans!" added. It reads:

<blockquote>We'll be doing a talk 
at NYU on Tuesday. 
puppets. peasants. and 
never before seen crap 
 
where: Kimmel Bldg 
Shorin Performance Ctr 
8th floor 
when: 6pm Tuesday 5/1  
$3 with NYU ID. $4 public</blockquote>

*Message title later changed to "NYC fans! Updated!" Date line highlighted in red and changed to:

<blockquote>when: 6pm Tuesday 3/1</blockquote>

==Sunday, February 27, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-02-27|Look out below, geronimo! Hee hee HA HA!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-02-27|cheatar's final home]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-02-27|you jumped over some of my bubses]]

==Tuesday, February 22, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #125: "[[rock opera]]"
*[[Store]]: [[Store#tshirt_scalding_lake|Scalding Lake T-Shirt]]

==Monday, February 21, 2005==
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] message: ''email soon''
*[[Main Pages]] copyright date changed from 2004 to 2005
*[[Store]] merchandise to be available at MegaCon.

==Thursday, February 17, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]:"[[Quote of the Week#2005-02-17|I'm the human wedgie.]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-02-17|soapstar cleanser]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-02-17|'lectric boot sketches]]

==Tuesday, February 15, 2005==
*New [[FAQ]], including new questions.

==Monday, February 14, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #124: "[[secret recipes]]"

==Thursday, February 10, 2005==
*[[Store]]: DVD+CD combo deal
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-02-10|Everyone is different. No two people are not on fire. Awww.]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-02-10|trogsaic vs. trogstitch]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-02-10|this is a cheat-up! nobody move!]]

==Monday, February 7, 2005==
*[[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]] separated into three movie sizes: "Jhonka", "Kerrek", and "Trogdor".

==Sunday, February 6, 2005==
*[[Toons|Short]]: [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]]

==Friday, February 4, 2005==
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] message: ''Super Bowl Halftime''
<blockquote>We will be putting up our weekly update at halftime of the Super Bowl. So check it on out if you want.</blockquote>

==Monday, January 31, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #123: "[[origins]]"

==Thursday, January 27, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-01-27|My name's Bubs. This is my regulah voice.]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-01-27|sweet frosting tips]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-01-27|will not be replacing strong bad any time soon]]

==Monday, January 24, 2005==
*[[Screen Savers Interview - 24 Jan 2005|Screen Savers Interview]] takes place

==Thursday, January 20, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-01-20|We're Kissyboots and it's nice to meetcha!]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-01-20|ancient hsr stop sign]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-01-20|brotherly love]]

==Tuesday, January 18, 2005==
*[[Videlectrix]]: Game Gallery and Game Music categories added.

==Monday, January 17, 2005==
*[[Teen Girl Squad]]: [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8|Issue 8]]
*[[Store]]: [[Store#Patches|Embroidered Patches]]

==Friday, January 14, 2005==
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "[[Quote of the Week#2005-01-14|Alms for the pudgy? Alms for the pudgy?]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Weekly Fanstuff#2005-01-14|photoshopped but still]]
*[[Sketchbook]]: [[Sketchbook#2005-01-14|not approved!!]]
*[[Videlectrix]]: [[50K Racewalker]]

==Monday, January 10, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #122: "[[dreamail]]"
*[[Store]]: Big after-Christmas t-shirt sale
*[[They Might Be Giants|TMBG]] [[Experimental Film]] music video released. Accessible [http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/com.apple.jingle.app.store.DirectAction/viewVideo?b=a&videoId=41146400 via iTunes]

==Monday, January 3, 2005==
*[[Strong Bad Email]] #121: "[[part-time job]]"
__NOTOC__
[[Category:Past Updates|2005, H*R.com updates]]

Talk:myths & legends

2006-02-15T06:55:27Z

Spell4yr:

This ones mine!!! ''{Evil laugh}'' [[User:Riley|Riley]]

I'll do the Easter Eggs. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, i'll do the next one. [[User:Riley|Riley]]

==Mentions of Sooldns==
It says, that they are mentioned, however I can't find where.
If it's the "elephant footed ghost man" I don't think it really is a mentioning of Strong Sad's sooldns. --Not Registered

==Elephantfooted Ghost man==
Is this some kind of reference that I am missing?
[[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 07:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I doubt it. Strong Bad is just pointing out the irony of "These strange beasts just aren't real" coming from a bizarre little brother who seems to have the feet (excuse me, soolnds) of an elephant and the head of a ghost. Or a Dairy Queen soft-serve cone. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 13:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

==Mile==
I suppose that the "British distance runner" sort of clears up the mini-STUFF-controversy over "mile" a while back? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:That's what I thought of when I saw it too. It's not completely overt, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::Watching it again I realize it's not as blatant as I thought. I thought everything in the clouds was some sort of inside reference to something prior (when I was only half-paying attention to the scene), but since I can't place some of them to something else, I suppose the runner wasn't referencing anything either. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 03:59, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:what the what what??? btw heres a pic of roger bannister: http://www2.iaaf.org/Multimedia/Photo/AthletesLegends/Men/RogerBannister_54.jpg {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== cool ==

this almost made up for the crappyness of [[500 the Cheats]] --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:You need to watch over and over to really appreciate it. It's really a cute short. Just candy for some of us. But, suit yourself. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:No, it's really terrible, I was extremly dissapointed, come on, seriously, it's terrible, but then theirs the fact that unless TBC TRY to make it bad, it really can't be, but anything else is always of overall "ok" standard, but for the H*R standard, its terrilbe.

:It's got a catchy tune. It's just a little bit of candy that they gave us before the Strong Bad Email. Appreciate that TBC gave you anything at all. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::I'd just like to reiterate that this is more the kind of topic for the forum, not for a Talk page. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:08, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Interesting ==

Bubs' shirt reads: "My Baby, Got Stole... By the bear holding A Shark"... a wiki reference? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:09, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
: Uh, how? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
: I would say it's a reference to the line "A Dingo Took My Baby!" This was said in the film [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094924/ "A Cry in the Dark"] which was based on the case of Azaria Chamberlain, an Australian child whose parents claimed was taken by dingos in the night. This line has been referenced a lot, specifically in sitcoms (e.g. Seinfeld). [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00002E22E/002-0997424-1932055?v=glance&n=130 Amazon.com says:]'"The dingo took my baby" remains a derisive expression in the Australian lexicon.' [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 23:58, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::And the Videlectrix game [[King Dingo]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::If anybody wants to add this to the article, the best source to link to would be the Wikipedia article: [[Wikipedia:Azaria Chamberlain disappearance|Azaria Chamberlain disappearance]]. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 00:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
: Hmm, no. It's referencing how Strong Bad describes "evidence of destroyed crops, stolen babies, and family bike-rides" and the corny tourist attraction T-shirts that always seem to irreverantly mention some legend. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 01:09, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::Exactly - Qermaq is absolutely right, and I think the reference on the article to the dingo-baby case is a huge stretch. Strong Bad merely mentions earlier in the email that "babies were stolen." I remember the baby-case, but this has nothing to do with it, and everything to do with Strong Bad's passing line. [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 16:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Certainly the t-shirt is simply playing off of Strong Bad's line, but that doesn't mean the line couldn't be a reference to Azaria Chamberlain. I would readily agree that it's too vague, if it weren't for the fact that TBC already made a fairly clear reference to the incident with [[King Dingo]]. On the other hand, it could just as easily refer to old European folk tales about goblins stealing babies, since those are also creatures of myth & legend while dingos are not. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:18, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I may be mistaken, but I don't think that just because a bit resembles something in the real world it's definitely a reference to it. I mean, if some story of a guy shooting his computer was found, would we add that as a reference to [[virus]]? I don't think so. I think it's doubtful TBC were thinking of Australian dingo babynappers when they wrote the joke. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 23:27, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

==Good Work==

At pretty much 50 minutes from start to finish, that's one speedy article creation. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:On a semi-related note: that'll look interesting on the statistics page... a (hopefully) brief trend where the Lappy emails got shorter and shorter. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== SG:C2C Reference ==

Wether it is intended to or not, the Bear/Shark is a reference to Space Ghost: Coast 2 Coast episode "Kentucky Nightmare" where SpaceGhost shows off a spoof "nature" show about bears and sharks being "Nature's Best Friends". Space Ghost had made the documentary for public television, but they rejected it on the account of it being grossly inaccurate. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 21:33, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:The Bear Shark's been around for a long time. Unless that SG:C3C episode came out more than 3 years ago, it's a reverse reference. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::The episode came out 2001 ... That's about 5 years ago. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 21:49, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::: Even then, it'd be better noted in [[date]] or [[Bear-Shark]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:50, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:::: Done and Done. I made a section in [[Bear-Shark]] about possible references. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== SBemail police ==

Is it worth mentioning that this seems to be the end of Strong Sad's SBemail police spree?-The 4rticle B4NDIT
:Nah, not really. The "Sbemail Police" was kind of a gag just for the last email. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:'''(Edit Conflict)''' I don't think so. It'd be notable if the spree continued, but I think it's best left as-is. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::"I'm sure it's just a weather balloon or a foreign exchange student. These strange beasts just aren't real!"
::Heck, if they do something like that involving Strong Sad next week too, I say it could be counted as still on. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Annoying TV Show SFX ==

Not sure what the writer meant with the SFX and the Geddup Noise having the same "notes". You'd be hard pressed to call Geddy a musical note. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 23:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:It was nonsense, so I removed it. I also removed the claim that it was the same sound effect used when [[Taranchula]] was first mentioned, in [[band names]]. That was definitely an amplified string instrument tuned extremely low (or pitch-shifted), with a chorus effect. The myths & legends sound is percussion-based, more like a marimba riff with heavy reverb and echo. By that token, if there is an existing sound effect upon which this one is based, it would most likely be the signature "dong-dong" of the Law & Order series, both from the sound itself, and from its ridiculous overuse throughout the show. The latter argument applies even more to the signature "whoosh" of Homicide: Life on the Street. However, since neither of these shows explores myths or legends, I think a Reference would be tenuous at best. Can anyone think of a myth/legend show that has a similarly annoying signature sound effect? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:39, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear Shark Filmography ==

Hi, since this page is being worked on and had a high profile at the time, I wanted your guys' opinions on the post I made [[Talk:Bear-Shark#Filmography.3F|here]]. Any input would be most welcomed. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:46, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Many Mins? ==

Would "Very Scary Monstermin" be a reference to "Santamin", or are the two perhaps an inside joke? [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

: I thought that too. And it's only Homestar who ever says "sanataman" or "monsterman" so it could be a quirk of his.

== Mythbusters? ==

Re: comment "The show Strong Bad mentions at the begining of the email is a reference to the The Discovery Channel's popular show, Mythbusters" - no. It's more like "In Search Of..." or any number of shows exploring strange phenomena. Mythbusters is not at all like SB's show.

Agreement/disagreement? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 01:41, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I kinda agree... from what I remember, Mythbusters tries to disprove urban legends, and then if it can't, it decrees them plausible. In Search Of seems to be more like SB's show.

: I'm going to go ahead and balleet it. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 04:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I think this is more of a reference to the show, Truth or Scare.[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 13:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Whoa, hold on a sec, guys. I think the Mythbusters reference has some credence at the moment - have you guys seen their current line of ads for the show? They feature a sasquatch out in the woods talking to the camera about how afraid he is that the Mythbusters will eventually discover him. Complete with cheesy French or Russian accent (I can't tell). While it's not a direct reference, I think some mention might be due. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:53, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I second that, the whole thing, down to the Trogdor mini-ad is a spoof of the Discovery channel's latest antics, among the most popular, if not the most popular, of which is Mythbusters. The show has also been using historians to explain the origins of legends. Even though the format of "their show" is quite different, the clues are still there. *play X-files theme* --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:13, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

::Right, but the tone of the program is totally different. SB is clearly going for "In Search Of...". While the name of the programs share the word "myth", one sets out to prove or disprove a myth (Mythbusters) while this one (MM or LL?) simply lays out evidence to lead the viewer. Would you ever see blurry photographic evidence on Mythbusters? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 17:55, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear in tennis shoes? ==

Someone referred to the bear with blue soles on his feet - did anyone else see that as a reference to the old campfire song about the bear in tennis shoes? If so, is it worth mentioning?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 02:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

: My answer: What campfire song? never heard of it. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I highly doubt it. The color scheme of the shoes was obviously intended to imply that it was Homestar himself posing as the Bear-Shark. A double meaning seems unlikely. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I looked at the shoes, and I didn't see white sneakers with blue soles. It looked more like little gray lines. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Intro song ==

I get the feeling Mr. Bad goes out of his way to come up with intro songs that ''feel'' like they're parodies of something but actually are not. I certainly can't place this one, but searching the Web for similar lyrics turned up "Walkin' With a Mountain" by Mott the Hoople: 
''And if I had a choice in life'' 
''I'd take that mountain for my wife'' 
Anyone know what this song sounds like? I'm not hopeful. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:04, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Morgan Freeman ==

Could this be a reference to Half-Life? --[[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 4:08, 14 Feb 2006
:No. The protagonist of [[Wikipedia:Half-Life|Half-Life]] is named ''Gordon'' Freeman. [http://imdb.com/name/nm0000151/ Morgan Freeman] is the co-star (with Tim Robbins) of The Shawshank Redemption. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Biscuit-Dough Hands Man ==

As I'm new, I'll pose this as a question. Why was the item "Biscuitdoughhandsman is a reference to "[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]." Bubs drew him from the [[King of Town]]'s description of the criminal who stole his crown, who was actually Strong Bad." removed? It is true. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

: Well, I see it's back. Where do I learn a bit more about what is in and what is out? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 04:00, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:I'm going to guess that it was because [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]] (note the "proper" spelling, although Strong Bad fudges it in this email) has appeared several times and has his own filmography. That said, the removal was over-hasty, because nowhere else in the article is this pointed out. While his origins don't necessarily need to be explained here, he at least needs to be mentioned and linked as an Inside Reference. He's neither present enough to be part of the Cast, nor obvious enough to be glossed over.

:As for where to learn about this sort of thing, check out [[HRWiki:Standards]]. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 04:10, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

::I removed it since he's linked above, in Remarks, and because it would be kind of unusual to provide a fun fact on a character saying "This is where this character was first introduced, and what happened in that 'toon," when a link to its page would suffice (imagine what it would be like if we did that for everything!). I'd still prefer to remove it, but I'll give it some time for debate first now that it's been reinstated and challenged. Specifically, the second sentence seems unrelated to ''this'' email, and the first sentence simply gives his origin; the only information that we really need here is that he ''is'' a pseudocharacter who has a page. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm the one who took it down in the first place. I took it down because the fact stated that his name appearing was a ''reference'' to Sb's in Jail Toon, but technically, it's not. I vote no. {{User:Salty/sig}} 13:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I have an idea. We can take down the fun fact about Biscuit Dough Hands Man, and we can link to him in the Easter eggs section! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:23, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::How about simply mentioning where this "character" first appeared and letting that be it? We do have other references (like the Mighty Warrior from TGS) to places where infrequent characters first appeared. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Gentlemen, gentlemen. He ''is'' linked, in Remarks; and the difference between him and the Mighty Warrior is that the latter has only appeared in one place before. If The Denzel showed up again, we'd probably mention [[bedtime story]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Shark-Tooth Bubs? ==

Likely a stretch...but does Bubs holding a shark-tooth necklace obliquely reference to the [[Shark-Tooth Bubs]] doll? That was one of the first things that came to mind when he was selling the necklaces at the stand. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 11:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:Well, while it ''is'' the first thing that comes to mind, they probably have no relation whatsoever. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 12:29, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:i dunno, but that is frikken funny... i hadnt seen that b4. {{User:Csours/sig}} 15:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear vs. Shark? ==

Could the whole Bear holding a Shark thing poosibly be a reference to the indie band Bear Vs. Shark?

:Doubt it. They existed from 2003 to 2005 and were based in MI. What are the odds? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 17:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:The Real-World References for [[date]] mentions a book called ''Bear v. Shark''. It was published in 2001, so it's possible that the book inspired both the band and the counter-measure separately. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Pom Pom dog? ==

Does Homestar saying Pom Pom is his dog refwerence to Pom Pom's Character Page, and/or Biz Cas Fri? "My dog! My main man! My ace in the Hole!" Please tell me whatcha' think. Also, could Pom Pom "the dog" growling and pooping everywhere refer to how animals act different when something strange is heading their way? Your <s>onion</s> opinion is needed. {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 21:43, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:"My dog Pom Pom" as a typical Homestar mangling of his own tendency to call everyone and everything, specifically including Pom Pom, his "dawg"? Sounds plausible to me. I would not call it obvious enough that it couldn't be unintentional, but probably worth mentioning.

:Growling and pooping? Well, um, yeah. That was kind of the whole point. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 02:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
i thought of the Carve-nival first thing. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:09, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear v. Radiohead ==

The shot glasses look like the Radiohead 'Kid A' logo.

There's a picture of it up at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bear20Big.gif .

:Yes they do, but only because they're both fairly primitive drawings of bears. Nothing compelling to connect them, I think. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 02:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Homes with Rollercoasters in them Network ==

Currently the real world reference to this show includes home improvement shows like Monster House. However this could just as easily be a reference to shows like MTV Cribs which feature celebtrities and their outreageous homes.

== Cornsistency ==
Maybe it's just me, but I think there should be some consistency in the transcript for A/The/the Mighty Warrior. The cast list says "A", as does his bio, but the Easter egg and Inside Reference says the/The. My personal feeling is "A" works best, with a link to the definite article page, but I don't want to take that initiative without others' opinions. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 05:24, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Sustained! (doink doink doink) More accurately, I think the Inside Reference one should change to "A", but I'm cool with the Easter Egg one in context (it lists the character in the dialogue line as "A MIGHTY WARRIOR," but speaks of "a frame of the Mighty Warrior..." To me that's okay. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:26, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
::lol, the Easter Egg transcript is something I added after posting my original comment. Now the next step should be making a page [[Indefinite Article]], redirecting it to [[Definite Article]], and adding A Mighty Warrior to the page. Just a thought. (I'd do it myself, but I hate taking initiative and, well, I'm really tired right now.) [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 06:51, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Talk:myths & legends

2006-02-15T06:51:57Z

Spell4yr: /* Cornsistency */

This ones mine!!! ''{Evil laugh}'' [[User:Riley|Riley]]

I'll do the Easter Eggs. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, i'll do the next one. [[User:Riley|Riley]]

==Mentions of Sooldns==
It says, that they are mentioned, however I can't find where.
If it's the "elephant footed ghost man" I don't think it really is a mentioning of Strong Sad's sooldns. --Not Registered

==Elephantfooted Ghost man==
Is this some kind of reference that I am missing?
[[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 07:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I doubt it. Strong Bad is just pointing out the irony of "These strange beasts just aren't real" coming from a bizarre little brother who seems to have the feet (excuse me, soolnds) of an elephant and the head of a ghost. Or a Dairy Queen soft-serve cone. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 13:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

==Mile==
I suppose that the "British distance runner" sort of clears up the mini-STUFF-controversy over "mile" a while back? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:That's what I thought of when I saw it too. It's not completely overt, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::Watching it again I realize it's not as blatant as I thought. I thought everything in the clouds was some sort of inside reference to something prior (when I was only half-paying attention to the scene), but since I can't place some of them to something else, I suppose the runner wasn't referencing anything either. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 03:59, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:what the what what??? btw heres a pic of roger bannister: http://www2.iaaf.org/Multimedia/Photo/AthletesLegends/Men/RogerBannister_54.jpg {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== cool ==

this almost made up for the crappyness of [[500 the Cheats]] --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:You need to watch over and over to really appreciate it. It's really a cute short. Just candy for some of us. But, suit yourself. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:No, it's really terrible, I was extremly dissapointed, come on, seriously, it's terrible, but then theirs the fact that unless TBC TRY to make it bad, it really can't be, but anything else is always of overall "ok" standard, but for the H*R standard, its terrilbe.

:It's got a catchy tune. It's just a little bit of candy that they gave us before the Strong Bad Email. Appreciate that TBC gave you anything at all. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::I'd just like to reiterate that this is more the kind of topic for the forum, not for a Talk page. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:08, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Interesting ==

Bubs' shirt reads: "My Baby, Got Stole... By the bear holding A Shark"... a wiki reference? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:09, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
: Uh, how? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
: I would say it's a reference to the line "A Dingo Took My Baby!" This was said in the film [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094924/ "A Cry in the Dark"] which was based on the case of Azaria Chamberlain, an Australian child whose parents claimed was taken by dingos in the night. This line has been referenced a lot, specifically in sitcoms (e.g. Seinfeld). [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00002E22E/002-0997424-1932055?v=glance&n=130 Amazon.com says:]'"The dingo took my baby" remains a derisive expression in the Australian lexicon.' [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 23:58, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::And the Videlectrix game [[King Dingo]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::If anybody wants to add this to the article, the best source to link to would be the Wikipedia article: [[Wikipedia:Azaria Chamberlain disappearance|Azaria Chamberlain disappearance]]. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 00:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
: Hmm, no. It's referencing how Strong Bad describes "evidence of destroyed crops, stolen babies, and family bike-rides" and the corny tourist attraction T-shirts that always seem to irreverantly mention some legend. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 01:09, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::Exactly - Qermaq is absolutely right, and I think the reference on the article to the dingo-baby case is a huge stretch. Strong Bad merely mentions earlier in the email that "babies were stolen." I remember the baby-case, but this has nothing to do with it, and everything to do with Strong Bad's passing line. [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 16:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Certainly the t-shirt is simply playing off of Strong Bad's line, but that doesn't mean the line couldn't be a reference to Azaria Chamberlain. I would readily agree that it's too vague, if it weren't for the fact that TBC already made a fairly clear reference to the incident with [[King Dingo]]. On the other hand, it could just as easily refer to old European folk tales about goblins stealing babies, since those are also creatures of myth & legend while dingos are not. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:18, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I may be mistaken, but I don't think that just because a bit resembles something in the real world it's definitely a reference to it. I mean, if some story of a guy shooting his computer was found, would we add that as a reference to [[virus]]? I don't think so. I think it's doubtful TBC were thinking of Australian dingo babynappers when they wrote the joke. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 23:27, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

==Good Work==

At pretty much 50 minutes from start to finish, that's one speedy article creation. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:On a semi-related note: that'll look interesting on the statistics page... a (hopefully) brief trend where the Lappy emails got shorter and shorter. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== SG:C2C Reference ==

Wether it is intended to or not, the Bear/Shark is a reference to Space Ghost: Coast 2 Coast episode "Kentucky Nightmare" where SpaceGhost shows off a spoof "nature" show about bears and sharks being "Nature's Best Friends". Space Ghost had made the documentary for public television, but they rejected it on the account of it being grossly inaccurate. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 21:33, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:The Bear Shark's been around for a long time. Unless that SG:C3C episode came out more than 3 years ago, it's a reverse reference. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::The episode came out 2001 ... That's about 5 years ago. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 21:49, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::: Even then, it'd be better noted in [[date]] or [[Bear-Shark]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:50, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:::: Done and Done. I made a section in [[Bear-Shark]] about possible references. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== SBemail police ==

Is it worth mentioning that this seems to be the end of Strong Sad's SBemail police spree?-The 4rticle B4NDIT
:Nah, not really. The "Sbemail Police" was kind of a gag just for the last email. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:'''(Edit Conflict)''' I don't think so. It'd be notable if the spree continued, but I think it's best left as-is. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::"I'm sure it's just a weather balloon or a foreign exchange student. These strange beasts just aren't real!"
::Heck, if they do something like that involving Strong Sad next week too, I say it could be counted as still on. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Annoying TV Show SFX ==

Not sure what the writer meant with the SFX and the Geddup Noise having the same "notes". You'd be hard pressed to call Geddy a musical note. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 23:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:It was nonsense, so I removed it. I also removed the claim that it was the same sound effect used when [[Taranchula]] was first mentioned, in [[band names]]. That was definitely an amplified string instrument tuned extremely low (or pitch-shifted), with a chorus effect. The myths & legends sound is percussion-based, more like a marimba riff with heavy reverb and echo. By that token, if there is an existing sound effect upon which this one is based, it would most likely be the signature "dong-dong" of the Law & Order series, both from the sound itself, and from its ridiculous overuse throughout the show. The latter argument applies even more to the signature "whoosh" of Homicide: Life on the Street. However, since neither of these shows explores myths or legends, I think a Reference would be tenuous at best. Can anyone think of a myth/legend show that has a similarly annoying signature sound effect? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:39, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear Shark Filmography ==

Hi, since this page is being worked on and had a high profile at the time, I wanted your guys' opinions on the post I made [[Talk:Bear-Shark#Filmography.3F|here]]. Any input would be most welcomed. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:46, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Many Mins? ==

Would "Very Scary Monstermin" be a reference to "Santamin", or are the two perhaps an inside joke? [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

: I thought that too. And it's only Homestar who ever says "sanataman" or "monsterman" so it could be a quirk of his.

== Mythbusters? ==

Re: comment "The show Strong Bad mentions at the begining of the email is a reference to the The Discovery Channel's popular show, Mythbusters" - no. It's more like "In Search Of..." or any number of shows exploring strange phenomena. Mythbusters is not at all like SB's show.

Agreement/disagreement? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 01:41, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I kinda agree... from what I remember, Mythbusters tries to disprove urban legends, and then if it can't, it decrees them plausible. In Search Of seems to be more like SB's show.

: I'm going to go ahead and balleet it. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 04:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I think this is more of a reference to the show, Truth or Scare.[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 13:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Whoa, hold on a sec, guys. I think the Mythbusters reference has some credence at the moment - have you guys seen their current line of ads for the show? They feature a sasquatch out in the woods talking to the camera about how afraid he is that the Mythbusters will eventually discover him. Complete with cheesy French or Russian accent (I can't tell). While it's not a direct reference, I think some mention might be due. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:53, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I second that, the whole thing, down to the Trogdor mini-ad is a spoof of the Discovery channel's latest antics, among the most popular, if not the most popular, of which is Mythbusters. The show has also been using historians to explain the origins of legends. Even though the format of "their show" is quite different, the clues are still there. *play X-files theme* --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:13, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

::Right, but the tone of the program is totally different. SB is clearly going for "In Search Of...". While the name of the programs share the word "myth", one sets out to prove or disprove a myth (Mythbusters) while this one (MM or LL?) simply lays out evidence to lead the viewer. Would you ever see blurry photographic evidence on Mythbusters? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 17:55, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear in tennis shoes? ==

Someone referred to the bear with blue soles on his feet - did anyone else see that as a reference to the old campfire song about the bear in tennis shoes? If so, is it worth mentioning?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 02:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

: My answer: What campfire song? never heard of it. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I highly doubt it. The color scheme of the shoes was obviously intended to imply that it was Homestar himself posing as the Bear-Shark. A double meaning seems unlikely. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I looked at the shoes, and I didn't see white sneakers with blue soles. It looked more like little gray lines. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Intro song ==

I get the feeling Mr. Bad goes out of his way to come up with intro songs that ''feel'' like they're parodies of something but actually are not. I certainly can't place this one, but searching the Web for similar lyrics turned up "Walkin' With a Mountain" by Mott the Hoople: 
''And if I had a choice in life'' 
''I'd take that mountain for my wife'' 
Anyone know what this song sounds like? I'm not hopeful. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:04, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Morgan Freeman ==

Could this be a reference to Half-Life? --[[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 4:08, 14 Feb 2006
:No. The protagonist of [[Wikipedia:Half-Life|Half-Life]] is named ''Gordon'' Freeman. [http://imdb.com/name/nm0000151/ Morgan Freeman] is the co-star (with Tim Robbins) of The Shawshank Redemption. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Biscuit-Dough Hands Man ==

As I'm new, I'll pose this as a question. Why was the item "Biscuitdoughhandsman is a reference to "[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]." Bubs drew him from the [[King of Town]]'s description of the criminal who stole his crown, who was actually Strong Bad." removed? It is true. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

: Well, I see it's back. Where do I learn a bit more about what is in and what is out? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 04:00, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:I'm going to guess that it was because [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]] (note the "proper" spelling, although Strong Bad fudges it in this email) has appeared several times and has his own filmography. That said, the removal was over-hasty, because nowhere else in the article is this pointed out. While his origins don't necessarily need to be explained here, he at least needs to be mentioned and linked as an Inside Reference. He's neither present enough to be part of the Cast, nor obvious enough to be glossed over.

:As for where to learn about this sort of thing, check out [[HRWiki:Standards]]. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 04:10, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

::I removed it since he's linked above, in Remarks, and because it would be kind of unusual to provide a fun fact on a character saying "This is where this character was first introduced, and what happened in that 'toon," when a link to its page would suffice (imagine what it would be like if we did that for everything!). I'd still prefer to remove it, but I'll give it some time for debate first now that it's been reinstated and challenged. Specifically, the second sentence seems unrelated to ''this'' email, and the first sentence simply gives his origin; the only information that we really need here is that he ''is'' a pseudocharacter who has a page. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm the one who took it down in the first place. I took it down because the fact stated that his name appearing was a ''reference'' to Sb's in Jail Toon, but technically, it's not. I vote no. {{User:Salty/sig}} 13:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I have an idea. We can take down the fun fact about Biscuit Dough Hands Man, and we can link to him in the Easter eggs section! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:23, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::How about simply mentioning where this "character" first appeared and letting that be it? We do have other references (like the Mighty Warrior from TGS) to places where infrequent characters first appeared. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Gentlemen, gentlemen. He ''is'' linked, in Remarks; and the difference between him and the Mighty Warrior is that the latter has only appeared in one place before. If The Denzel showed up again, we'd probably mention [[bedtime story]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Shark-Tooth Bubs? ==

Likely a stretch...but does Bubs holding a shark-tooth necklace obliquely reference to the [[Shark-Tooth Bubs]] doll? That was one of the first things that came to mind when he was selling the necklaces at the stand. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 11:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:Well, while it ''is'' the first thing that comes to mind, they probably have no relation whatsoever. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 12:29, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:i dunno, but that is frikken funny... i hadnt seen that b4. {{User:Csours/sig}} 15:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear vs. Shark? ==

Could the whole Bear holding a Shark thing poosibly be a reference to the indie band Bear Vs. Shark?

:Doubt it. They existed from 2003 to 2005 and were based in MI. What are the odds? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 17:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:The Real-World References for [[date]] mentions a book called ''Bear v. Shark''. It was published in 2001, so it's possible that the book inspired both the band and the counter-measure separately. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Pom Pom dog? ==

Does Homestar saying Pom Pom is his dog refwerence to Pom Pom's Character Page, and/or Biz Cas Fri? "My dog! My main man! My ace in the Hole!" Please tell me whatcha' think. Also, could Pom Pom "the dog" growling and pooping everywhere refer to how animals act different when something strange is heading their way? Your <s>onion</s> opinion is needed. {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 21:43, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:"My dog Pom Pom" as a typical Homestar mangling of his own tendency to call everyone and everything, specifically including Pom Pom, his "dawg"? Sounds plausible to me. I would not call it obvious enough that it couldn't be unintentional, but probably worth mentioning.

:Growling and pooping? Well, um, yeah. That was kind of the whole point. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 02:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
i thought of the Carve-nival first thing. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:09, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear v. Radiohead ==

The shot glasses look like the Radiohead 'Kid A' logo.

There's a picture of it up at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bear20Big.gif .

:Yes they do, but only because they're both fairly primitive drawings of bears. Nothing compelling to connect them, I think. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 02:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Homes with Rollercoasters in them Network ==

Currently the real world reference to this show includes home improvement shows like Monster House. However this could just as easily be a reference to shows like MTV Cribs which feature celebtrities and their outreageous homes.

== Cornsistency ==
Maybe it's just me, but I think there should be some consistency in the transcript for A/The/the Mighty Warrior. The cast list says "A", as does his bio, but the Easter egg and Inside Reference says the/The. My personal feeling is "A" works best, with a link to the definite article page, but I don't want to take that initiative without others' opinions. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 05:24, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Sustained! (doink doink doink) More accurately, I think the Inside Reference one should change to "A", but I'm cool with the Easter Egg one in context (it lists the character in the dialogue line as "A MIGHTY WARRIOR," but speaks of "a frame of the Mighty Warrior..." To me that's okay. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:26, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
::lol, the Easter Egg transcript is something I added after posting my original comment. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 06:51, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Museum

2006-02-15T05:43:06Z

Spell4yr: some copy-editing

[[Image:New_museum_screenshot.png|thumb|220px|Historical, but fun]][[Image:Museum Screenshot.png|thumb|150px|Even more historical]]
The '''Museum''' is an often-overlooked section of the [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestar Runner]] website where old material and fan submissions are kept. You can go there directly by clicking on the H*R logo in the upper left corner of any of the [[Main Pages]], or clicking on the 'museum' icon on the animated list that comes from the bottom when you roll over it on old toons.

Around February 14, 2006, the Museum underwent its first update in several years. The Fanstuff was completely removed, the Ice Cream was moved to the end of the Sketchbook, some of the Sketchbook summaries were changed, and all the windows were merged into "[[Puppet Stuff]]" style format, as Flash popups within the same window.

'''Page Title:''' Check out this old Crap!

==Current Museum Contents==
*[[Museum Sketchbook|Sketchbook]]: See early sketches of your favorites and what they would look like as ice cream.
**[[Ice Cream]]: What various characters would look like as ice cream novelties.
*[[Original Book]]: The very first H*R kids' book.
*[[Super NES]]: A Homestar toon created on a Super Nintendo using [[Wikipedia:Mario Paint|Mario Paint]].
*[[Where My Hat Is At?]]: Another kids' "book" (H*R's first web appearance).
*[[Old Flash Stuff]]: Early Flash creations.
===Old Museum Contents===
*[[Fan Stuff]]: All kinds of things sent in by fans.

==Fun Facts==
*The drawer beneath the Museum drawer is labeled "BOTTOM DRAWER".

==External links==
*[[HR:museum.html|Visit the Museum]]
*[[HR:museum.swf|View the Flash file for the Museum]]
{{Museum}}
{{H*RNav}}
[[Category: Special Pages]]

Talk:myths & legends

2006-02-15T05:30:12Z

Spell4yr: /* Cornsistency */ slight amend

This ones mine!!! ''{Evil laugh}'' [[User:Riley|Riley]]

I'll do the Easter Eggs. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, i'll do the next one. [[User:Riley|Riley]]

==Mentions of Sooldns==
It says, that they are mentioned, however I can't find where.
If it's the "elephant footed ghost man" I don't think it really is a mentioning of Strong Sad's sooldns. --Not Registered

==Elephantfooted Ghost man==
Is this some kind of reference that I am missing?
[[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 07:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I doubt it. Strong Bad is just pointing out the irony of "These strange beasts just aren't real" coming from a bizarre little brother who seems to have the feet (excuse me, soolnds) of an elephant and the head of a ghost. Or a Dairy Queen soft-serve cone. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 13:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

==Mile==
I suppose that the "British distance runner" sort of clears up the mini-STUFF-controversy over "mile" a while back? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:That's what I thought of when I saw it too. It's not completely overt, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::Watching it again I realize it's not as blatant as I thought. I thought everything in the clouds was some sort of inside reference to something prior (when I was only half-paying attention to the scene), but since I can't place some of them to something else, I suppose the runner wasn't referencing anything either. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 03:59, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:what the what what??? btw heres a pic of roger bannister: http://www2.iaaf.org/Multimedia/Photo/AthletesLegends/Men/RogerBannister_54.jpg {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== cool ==

this almost made up for the crappyness of [[500 the Cheats]] --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:You need to watch over and over to really appreciate it. It's really a cute short. Just candy for some of us. But, suit yourself. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:No, it's really terrible, I was extremly dissapointed, come on, seriously, it's terrible, but then theirs the fact that unless TBC TRY to make it bad, it really can't be, but anything else is always of overall "ok" standard, but for the H*R standard, its terrilbe.

:It's got a catchy tune. It's just a little bit of candy that they gave us before the Strong Bad Email. Appreciate that TBC gave you anything at all. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::I'd just like to reiterate that this is more the kind of topic for the forum, not for a Talk page. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:08, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Interesting ==

Bubs' shirt reads: "My Baby, Got Stole... By the bear holding A Shark"... a wiki reference? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:09, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
: Uh, how? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
: I would say it's a reference to the line "A Dingo Took My Baby!" This was said in the film [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094924/ "A Cry in the Dark"] which was based on the case of Azaria Chamberlain, an Australian child whose parents claimed was taken by dingos in the night. This line has been referenced a lot, specifically in sitcoms (e.g. Seinfeld). [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00002E22E/002-0997424-1932055?v=glance&n=130 Amazon.com says:]'"The dingo took my baby" remains a derisive expression in the Australian lexicon.' [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 23:58, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::And the Videlectrix game [[King Dingo]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::If anybody wants to add this to the article, the best source to link to would be the Wikipedia article: [[Wikipedia:Azaria Chamberlain disappearance|Azaria Chamberlain disappearance]]. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 00:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
: Hmm, no. It's referencing how Strong Bad describes "evidence of destroyed crops, stolen babies, and family bike-rides" and the corny tourist attraction T-shirts that always seem to irreverantly mention some legend. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 01:09, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::Exactly - Qermaq is absolutely right, and I think the reference on the article to the dingo-baby case is a huge stretch. Strong Bad merely mentions earlier in the email that "babies were stolen." I remember the baby-case, but this has nothing to do with it, and everything to do with Strong Bad's passing line. [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 16:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Certainly the t-shirt is simply playing off of Strong Bad's line, but that doesn't mean the line couldn't be a reference to Azaria Chamberlain. I would readily agree that it's too vague, if it weren't for the fact that TBC already made a fairly clear reference to the incident with [[King Dingo]]. On the other hand, it could just as easily refer to old European folk tales about goblins stealing babies, since those are also creatures of myth & legend while dingos are not. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:18, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I may be mistaken, but I don't think that just because a bit resembles something in the real world it's definitely a reference to it. I mean, if some story of a guy shooting his computer was found, would we add that as a reference to [[virus]]? I don't think so. I think it's doubtful TBC were thinking of Australian dingo babynappers when they wrote the joke. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 23:27, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

==Good Work==

At pretty much 50 minutes from start to finish, that's one speedy article creation. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:On a semi-related note: that'll look interesting on the statistics page... a (hopefully) brief trend where the Lappy emails got shorter and shorter. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== SG:C2C Reference ==

Wether it is intended to or not, the Bear/Shark is a reference to Space Ghost: Coast 2 Coast episode "Kentucky Nightmare" where SpaceGhost shows off a spoof "nature" show about bears and sharks being "Nature's Best Friends". Space Ghost had made the documentary for public television, but they rejected it on the account of it being grossly inaccurate. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 21:33, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:The Bear Shark's been around for a long time. Unless that SG:C3C episode came out more than 3 years ago, it's a reverse reference. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::The episode came out 2001 ... That's about 5 years ago. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 21:49, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::: Even then, it'd be better noted in [[date]] or [[Bear-Shark]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:50, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:::: Done and Done. I made a section in [[Bear-Shark]] about possible references. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== SBemail police ==

Is it worth mentioning that this seems to be the end of Strong Sad's SBemail police spree?-The 4rticle B4NDIT
:Nah, not really. The "Sbemail Police" was kind of a gag just for the last email. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:'''(Edit Conflict)''' I don't think so. It'd be notable if the spree continued, but I think it's best left as-is. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::"I'm sure it's just a weather balloon or a foreign exchange student. These strange beasts just aren't real!"
::Heck, if they do something like that involving Strong Sad next week too, I say it could be counted as still on. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Annoying TV Show SFX ==

Not sure what the writer meant with the SFX and the Geddup Noise having the same "notes". You'd be hard pressed to call Geddy a musical note. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 23:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:It was nonsense, so I removed it. I also removed the claim that it was the same sound effect used when [[Taranchula]] was first mentioned, in [[band names]]. That was definitely an amplified string instrument tuned extremely low (or pitch-shifted), with a chorus effect. The myths & legends sound is percussion-based, more like a marimba riff with heavy reverb and echo. By that token, if there is an existing sound effect upon which this one is based, it would most likely be the signature "dong-dong" of the Law & Order series, both from the sound itself, and from its ridiculous overuse throughout the show. The latter argument applies even more to the signature "whoosh" of Homicide: Life on the Street. However, since neither of these shows explores myths or legends, I think a Reference would be tenuous at best. Can anyone think of a myth/legend show that has a similarly annoying signature sound effect? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:39, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear Shark Filmography ==

Hi, since this page is being worked on and had a high profile at the time, I wanted your guys' opinions on the post I made [[Talk:Bear-Shark#Filmography.3F|here]]. Any input would be most welcomed. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:46, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Many Mins? ==

Would "Very Scary Monstermin" be a reference to "Santamin", or are the two perhaps an inside joke? [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

: I thought that too. And it's only Homestar who ever says "sanataman" or "monsterman" so it could be a quirk of his.

== Mythbusters? ==

Re: comment "The show Strong Bad mentions at the begining of the email is a reference to the The Discovery Channel's popular show, Mythbusters" - no. It's more like "In Search Of..." or any number of shows exploring strange phenomena. Mythbusters is not at all like SB's show.

Agreement/disagreement? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 01:41, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I kinda agree... from what I remember, Mythbusters tries to disprove urban legends, and then if it can't, it decrees them plausible. In Search Of seems to be more like SB's show.

: I'm going to go ahead and balleet it. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 04:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I think this is more of a reference to the show, Truth or Scare.[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 13:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Whoa, hold on a sec, guys. I think the Mythbusters reference has some credence at the moment - have you guys seen their current line of ads for the show? They feature a sasquatch out in the woods talking to the camera about how afraid he is that the Mythbusters will eventually discover him. Complete with cheesy French or Russian accent (I can't tell). While it's not a direct reference, I think some mention might be due. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:53, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I second that, the whole thing, down to the Trogdor mini-ad is a spoof of the Discovery channel's latest antics, among the most popular, if not the most popular, of which is Mythbusters. The show has also been using historians to explain the origins of legends. Even though the format of "their show" is quite different, the clues are still there. *play X-files theme* --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:13, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

::Right, but the tone of the program is totally different. SB is clearly going for "In Search Of...". While the name of the programs share the word "myth", one sets out to prove or disprove a myth (Mythbusters) while this one (MM or LL?) simply lays out evidence to lead the viewer. Would you ever see blurry photographic evidence on Mythbusters? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 17:55, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear in tennis shoes? ==

Someone referred to the bear with blue soles on his feet - did anyone else see that as a reference to the old campfire song about the bear in tennis shoes? If so, is it worth mentioning?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 02:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

: My answer: What campfire song? never heard of it. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I highly doubt it. The color scheme of the shoes was obviously intended to imply that it was Homestar himself posing as the Bear-Shark. A double meaning seems unlikely. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I looked at the shoes, and I didn't see white sneakers with blue soles. It looked more like little gray lines. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Intro song ==

I get the feeling Mr. Bad goes out of his way to come up with intro songs that ''feel'' like they're parodies of something but actually are not. I certainly can't place this one, but searching the Web for similar lyrics turned up "Walkin' With a Mountain" by Mott the Hoople: 
''And if I had a choice in life'' 
''I'd take that mountain for my wife'' 
Anyone know what this song sounds like? I'm not hopeful. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:04, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Morgan Freeman ==

Could this be a reference to Half-Life? --[[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 4:08, 14 Feb 2006
:No. The protagonist of [[Wikipedia:Half-Life|Half-Life]] is named ''Gordon'' Freeman. [http://imdb.com/name/nm0000151/ Morgan Freeman] is the co-star (with Tim Robbins) of The Shawshank Redemption. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Biscuit-Dough Hands Man ==

As I'm new, I'll pose this as a question. Why was the item "Biscuitdoughhandsman is a reference to "[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]." Bubs drew him from the [[King of Town]]'s description of the criminal who stole his crown, who was actually Strong Bad." removed? It is true. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

: Well, I see it's back. Where do I learn a bit more about what is in and what is out? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 04:00, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:I'm going to guess that it was because [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]] (note the "proper" spelling, although Strong Bad fudges it in this email) has appeared several times and has his own filmography. That said, the removal was over-hasty, because nowhere else in the article is this pointed out. While his origins don't necessarily need to be explained here, he at least needs to be mentioned and linked as an Inside Reference. He's neither present enough to be part of the Cast, nor obvious enough to be glossed over.

:As for where to learn about this sort of thing, check out [[HRWiki:Standards]]. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 04:10, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

::I removed it since he's linked above, in Remarks, and because it would be kind of unusual to provide a fun fact on a character saying "This is where this character was first introduced, and what happened in that 'toon," when a link to its page would suffice (imagine what it would be like if we did that for everything!). I'd still prefer to remove it, but I'll give it some time for debate first now that it's been reinstated and challenged. Specifically, the second sentence seems unrelated to ''this'' email, and the first sentence simply gives his origin; the only information that we really need here is that he ''is'' a pseudocharacter who has a page. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm the one who took it down in the first place. I took it down because the fact stated that his name appearing was a ''reference'' to Sb's in Jail Toon, but technically, it's not. I vote no. {{User:Salty/sig}} 13:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I have an idea. We can take down the fun fact about Biscuit Dough Hands Man, and we can link to him in the Easter eggs section! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:23, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::How about simply mentioning where this "character" first appeared and letting that be it? We do have other references (like the Mighty Warrior from TGS) to places where infrequent characters first appeared. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Shark-Tooth Bubs? ==

Likely a stretch...but does Bubs holding a shark-tooth necklace obliquely reference to the [[Shark-Tooth Bubs]] doll? That was one of the first things that came to mind when he was selling the necklaces at the stand. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 11:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:Well, while it ''is'' the first thing that comes to mind, they probably have no relation whatsoever. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 12:29, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:i dunno, but that is frikken funny... i hadnt seen that b4. {{User:Csours/sig}} 15:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear vs. Shark? ==

Could the whole Bear holding a Shark thing poosibly be a reference to the indie band Bear Vs. Shark?

:Doubt it. They existed from 2003 to 2005 and were based in MI. What are the odds? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 17:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:The Real-World References for [[date]] mentions a book called ''Bear v. Shark''. It was published in 2001, so it's possible that the book inspired both the band and the counter-measure separately. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Pom Pom dog? ==

Does Homestar saying Pom Pom is his dog refwerence to Pom Pom's Character Page, and/or Biz Cas Fri? "My dog! My main man! My ace in the Hole!" Please tell me whatcha' think. Also, could Pom Pom "the dog" growling and pooping everywhere refer to how animals act different when something strange is heading their way? Your <s>onion</s> opinion is needed. {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 21:43, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:"My dog Pom Pom" as a typical Homestar mangling of his own tendency to call everyone and everything, specifically including Pom Pom, his "dawg"? Sounds plausible to me. I would not call it obvious enough that it couldn't be unintentional, but probably worth mentioning.

:Growling and pooping? Well, um, yeah. That was kind of the whole point. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 02:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
i thought of the Carve-nival first thing. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:09, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear v. Radiohead ==

The shot glasses look like the Radiohead 'Kid A' logo.

There's a picture of it up at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bear20Big.gif .

:Yes they do, but only because they're both fairly primitive drawings of bears. Nothing compelling to connect them, I think. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 02:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Homes with Rollercoasters in them Network ==

Currently the real world reference to this show includes home improvement shows like Monster House. However this could just as easily be a reference to shows like MTV Cribs which feature celebtrities and their outreageous homes.

== Cornsistency ==
Maybe it's just me, but I think there should be some consistency in the transcript for A/The/the Mighty Warrior. The cast list says "A", as does his bio, but the Easter egg and Inside Reference says the/The. My personal feeling is "A" works best, with a link to the definite article page, but I don't want to take that initiative without others' opinions. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 05:24, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

myths & legends

2006-02-15T05:29:18Z

Spell4yr: /* Easter Eggs */ transcript of TGS Easter egg

{{sbenav|145|narrator|some kinda robot}}
[[Image:Sbemail145.PNG|thumb|"I'm sure it's just a weather balloon..."]]
Strong Bad recounts the legendary myth of the [[Bear-Shark]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):'''
{{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#A Mighty Warrior|A Mighty Warrior]] (Easter egg), {{Film|Trogdor}} (Easter egg), [[Bear-Shark]], {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], The Woods

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' February 13, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 2:54

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I'm livin' the Strong Bad life, I take an email for my wife. I take an email for my wife. ''{brings up and reads the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: Hey Strongbad!</div>
Hey Strongbad, 
Does Strong Badia have any Mysterious Myths or 
Legendary Legends? 
Cephas 
Cornwall, CA 
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "Strongbad" as "Two words. Two different words. That are not one word. That are 'Strong' and 'Bad'." and the name and location as "Cephas Cornwall of the Corn Army".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Mysterious Myths or Legendary Legends? Isn't that a show on one of those channels up in the high hundreds? Ya know, like between the CG Dinosaur Channel and the Homes with Rollercoasters in Them Network? Well, if not, it should be! ''{makes a static-like sound}'' Come on! ''{makes it again, but this time the screen cuts to static}'' There we go.

''{Cut to Strong Badia. Strong Bad carries a stick.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Badia. An idyllic fruit-opia. Rich in madeupstories and nottrueities. The nottrue-est of which...

''{He prods The Tire with his stick. The Bear-Shark pops up. The Cheat runs by, panicked.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{screams in The Cheat}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...is the mighty bear holding a shark. ''{spooky music starts}'' More than a mere security counter-measure, its origins lie in the skies of old.

''{Cut to a starry sky. Constellations of the Strong Badia flag's snake, the guy with the big knife, a hand giving the "OK" symbol, a board with nails in it, General Tso's chicken, a fish with an afro, and a marathon runner.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The stars tell us that two of the seven elemental spirits of Strong Badia, the fish wearing a 'fro wig and the British distance runner, combined forces to defeat the others.

''{The two constellations in question fight, and in the end, the runner holds the fish over his head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' In paintball... or maybe Red Rover.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Then, through years of bad story-telling and the telephone game,

''{Over the following, images of a satyr holding a fish, labeled "Wildernessman withst Sea-Beast", a moose with a chameleon in its antlers, and a bad drawing of the bear-shark on the fence appear.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The mythic beast transformed into the bear holding a shark we know today. These ancient fence drawings show evidence of destroyed crops, stolen babies, and family bike-rides. ''{The screen pans over to show bad drawings of the same.}'' Or family pie-sitting contests. Bear-holding-a-shark fever gripped the nation.

''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand, with various Bear-Shark paraphernelia.}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{holding up an ice cream bar}'' We got Bear-holding-a-shark frozen delights, ''{looking at a pile of glasses near him}'' and these shot glasses are always popular with the kids. Oh, and my favorite: ''{reaches down and produces a necklace}'' these Bear-tooth-holding-a-shark-tooth necklaces!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Of course, not everyone caught the fever.

''{Music starts and Bubs dances. Then, cut to Strong Sad. The screen reads "Bear Holding a Shark Skeptic".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' I'm sure it's just a weather balloon or a foreign exchange student. These strange beasts just aren't real!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...said the elephant-footed ghost man. And then, one day, the Bear-holding-a-shark got the break all made-up creatures dream of. ''{The screen becomes more and more blurry, and zooms further and further into Strong Bad, on each word in:}'' Blurry photographic evidence.

''{Cut to Homestar Runner}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Now, I'm a little fuzzy on the details, but I was in the woods, walking my dog Pom Pom. All of a sudden, he started growlin' and poopin' all over the place. And that's when I saw it.

''{Static, then cut to a very fuzzy video reel of the Bear-Shark walking through the woods.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{voiceover}'' A very. Scary. Monsterman.

''{More spooky music}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Now that we've seen all the evidence, it's up to you to decide: ''{the following words appear on the screen}'' Mysterious Myth? Or Legendary Legend?

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Join us next week when we examine startling new evidence in the Biscuitdoughhandsman conspiracy.

''{More spooky music. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:WalkingwithTrogdor.PNG|thumb|Walking with Trogdor]]
[[Image:By_strong_bab_age_5.PNG|thumb|Who REALLY made all those fence drawings...]]
*After Strong Bad says "Corn Army", click on CA in the email to see a [[Teen Girl Squad]] frame of the Mighty Warrior taking on the corn army.
:'''A MIGHTY WARRIOR:''' The corn army is no match for A Mighty Warrior!
*Click on "CG Dinosaur Channel" to see Trogdor walk on the screen, advertising "Walking with Trogdor".
* By viewing the Flash file, when the "ancient fence drawings" are going by, you can see the following text written in sloppy, child handwriting outside of the typical viewing area.
<blockquote>by strong bab ag9 5
</blockquote>
*Click on "startling" at the end to see a scene with Strong Bad and Bubs.
:''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{holding one of the Bear-Shark ice cream bars}'' So this is supposed to be the bear holding a shark? Looks more like...Morgan Freeman.
:'''BUBS:''' Oh, right! That's what it is! Now gimme twenty extra bucks for that Shawshank style.
*Click on "Biscuitdoughhandsman" to see Coach Z reporting an incident.
:''{Cut to Coach Z, standing in silhouette in front of a dark background. A caption appears reading "This guy's voice has been digitally altered again"}''
:'''COACH Z:''' ''{with voice digitally altered}'' So there I was, minding my own creepy business, when I found this severed hand in the lacker room! ''{He holds up a biscuit with a bite taken out.}''

==Fun Facts==
{{checkstuffpage}}
===Explanations===
*"CG" is short for "Computer graphics".
*"Telephone Game" is a game for children where a message is whispered from one participant to another, along a group, causing the message to be distorted more and more.

===Trivia===
*This is another appearance of [[Pie|pie]].
*One of the "Cave Drawings" bears a striking resemblance to [[What's Her Face]].

===Goofs===
*When Strong Bad is introducing Strong Badia for the first time, his left arm is briefly missing.
*If you click on the Trogdor easter egg directly before the static, the egg will appear over the static and disappear as soon as it arrives in Strong Badia.

===Inside References===
*The Mighty Warrior first appeared in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]], and has mentioned corn each time he has appeared.
*[[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]] first appeared in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].
**While this character's name is normally made up of multiple words, it has previously appeared as a single word in one of the Easter-egg reviews of Strong Bad's [[rock opera]].
*The constellation scene features the [[Strong Badia|Strong Badian]] flag's snake, the [[Painting of a guy with a big knife|big knife guy]] and his knife, and [[General Tso's Chicken]], which all had connections to Strong Badia in the past.
*Coach Z's voice was digitally altered before in [[couch patch]].
*The Cheat was revealed to be scared of the Bear-Shark in [[date]].
*Strong Sad's [[Soolnds]] are mentioned again.
*The "Bear Holding A Shark" ice cream bar is similar in style to the [[Ice Cream|ice cream bars]] of Homestar Runner, [[Pom Pom]] and Strong Bad, as seen in the [[Museum]]. It also bears a resemblance to the Aunt Gert Doll seen in [[garage sale]].
*"Strong Bab" is a reference to [[The Secrets That I Keep]], in which Strong Sad's birthday card was signed the same way by [[Lil' Strong Bad]].
*Homestar Runner's pronunciation of "monsterman," as one word with the last syllable unaccented, matches the pronunciation of "[[Santaman]]".
*The cottage and Trogdor sprite used in the "Walking with Trogdor" easter egg come from the game [[TROGDOR!]].
*One of the fence drawings appears to be a thatched-roof cottage being burninated.

===Real-World References===
*"Walking With Trogdor" is a reference to the TV special [[Wikipedia:Walking With Dinosaurs|Walking With Dinosaurs]], which features CG dinosaurs.
**The "Walking with Trogdor" Easter egg is a reference to the recent trend of television networks to advertise for their shows by displaying short video clips along the bottom during the broadcast of another show.
*The British Long Distance Runner is likely a reference to [[Wikipedia:Roger Bannister|Roger Bannister]], the man who first ran the mile in four minutes or less.
*"Bear Holding a Shark Week" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Discovery Channel|The Discovery Channel]]'s [http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/sharkweek/sharkweek.html Shark Week].
*One of the fence drawings is a [[Wikipedia:TIE fighter|TIE fighter]].
*"Shawshank style" is in reference to the 1994 movie [[Wikipedia:The Shawshank Redemption|The Shawshank Redemption]] in which Academy Award-winning actor [[Wikipedia:Morgan Freeman|Morgan Freeman]] plays a convict.
*The Strongbadia Myth Show is a reference to [[Wikipedia:In Search Of...|In Search Of...]] and similar shows and documentaries that investigate paranormal phenomena such as [[Wikipedia:Cryptozoology|monster sightings]] and alien abductions, and often include interviews with people who claim to have encountered such things.
*The blurry video footage of the bear holding a shark is a reference to the famous [[Wikipedia:Patterson-Gimlin_film|Patterson-Gimlin]] home-movie footage of an alleged [[Wikipedia:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] (Sasquatch) moving through a forest.
*[[Wikipedia:Fruitopia|Fruitopia]] is a fruit drink manufactured by [[Wikipedia:The Coca-Cola Company|Coca-Cola]].
*Strong Sad's mention of a weather balloon refers to the [[Wikipedia:Roswell UFO incident|1947 UFO incident]] in Roswell, New Mexico. Government officials identified strange debris as a weather balloon, which was later alleged to be a cover-up. Since then, weather balloons have become a typical rationalization of UFO sightings.
*The "Homes with Rollercoasters in Them Network" is likely a reference to the many home improvement shows that exist on channels like [[Wikipedia:TLC|TLC]] and The Discovery Channel, in which rooms are redecorated to fit a specific theme. Such shows include [[Wikipedia:Trading Spaces|Trading Spaces]] and [[Wikipedia:Monster House|Monster House]].
*The T-Shirt in Bubs's Concession Stand which reads "My Baby Got Stole By the Bear Holding a Shark" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Azaria Chamberlain disappearance|Azaria Chamberlain disappearance]] in Australia in 1980, the subject of many books and films. The parents of two month old Azaria claimed that she was stolen by a [[Wikipedia:dingo|dingo]]; they were widely disbelieved and convicted of her murder, though the conviction was later overturned. Even now there is dispute over whether their claim that a dingo stole their baby was a hoax.
*In Homestar's blurry video footage, the Bear-Shark's feet are white and have blue soles, suggesting that the footage is not quite authentic. Video footage of [[Wikipedia:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] has also been debunked with similar evidence.


==External Links==

{{sbemailextlinks|145|7040}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}

Talk:myths & legends

2006-02-15T05:24:42Z

Spell4yr: A Mighty Warrior

This ones mine!!! ''{Evil laugh}'' [[User:Riley|Riley]]

I'll do the Easter Eggs. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, i'll do the next one. [[User:Riley|Riley]]

==Mentions of Sooldns==
It says, that they are mentioned, however I can't find where.
If it's the "elephant footed ghost man" I don't think it really is a mentioning of Strong Sad's sooldns. --Not Registered

==Elephantfooted Ghost man==
Is this some kind of reference that I am missing?
[[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 07:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I doubt it. Strong Bad is just pointing out the irony of "These strange beasts just aren't real" coming from a bizarre little brother who seems to have the feet (excuse me, soolnds) of an elephant and the head of a ghost. Or a Dairy Queen soft-serve cone. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 13:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

==Mile==
I suppose that the "British distance runner" sort of clears up the mini-STUFF-controversy over "mile" a while back? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:That's what I thought of when I saw it too. It's not completely overt, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::Watching it again I realize it's not as blatant as I thought. I thought everything in the clouds was some sort of inside reference to something prior (when I was only half-paying attention to the scene), but since I can't place some of them to something else, I suppose the runner wasn't referencing anything either. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 03:59, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:what the what what??? btw heres a pic of roger bannister: http://www2.iaaf.org/Multimedia/Photo/AthletesLegends/Men/RogerBannister_54.jpg {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== cool ==

this almost made up for the crappyness of [[500 the Cheats]] --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:You need to watch over and over to really appreciate it. It's really a cute short. Just candy for some of us. But, suit yourself. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:No, it's really terrible, I was extremly dissapointed, come on, seriously, it's terrible, but then theirs the fact that unless TBC TRY to make it bad, it really can't be, but anything else is always of overall "ok" standard, but for the H*R standard, its terrilbe.

:It's got a catchy tune. It's just a little bit of candy that they gave us before the Strong Bad Email. Appreciate that TBC gave you anything at all. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::I'd just like to reiterate that this is more the kind of topic for the forum, not for a Talk page. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:08, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Interesting ==

Bubs' shirt reads: "My Baby, Got Stole... By the bear holding A Shark"... a wiki reference? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:09, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
: Uh, how? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
: I would say it's a reference to the line "A Dingo Took My Baby!" This was said in the film [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094924/ "A Cry in the Dark"] which was based on the case of Azaria Chamberlain, an Australian child whose parents claimed was taken by dingos in the night. This line has been referenced a lot, specifically in sitcoms (e.g. Seinfeld). [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00002E22E/002-0997424-1932055?v=glance&n=130 Amazon.com says:]'"The dingo took my baby" remains a derisive expression in the Australian lexicon.' [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 23:58, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::And the Videlectrix game [[King Dingo]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::If anybody wants to add this to the article, the best source to link to would be the Wikipedia article: [[Wikipedia:Azaria Chamberlain disappearance|Azaria Chamberlain disappearance]]. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 00:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
: Hmm, no. It's referencing how Strong Bad describes "evidence of destroyed crops, stolen babies, and family bike-rides" and the corny tourist attraction T-shirts that always seem to irreverantly mention some legend. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 01:09, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::Exactly - Qermaq is absolutely right, and I think the reference on the article to the dingo-baby case is a huge stretch. Strong Bad merely mentions earlier in the email that "babies were stolen." I remember the baby-case, but this has nothing to do with it, and everything to do with Strong Bad's passing line. [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 16:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Certainly the t-shirt is simply playing off of Strong Bad's line, but that doesn't mean the line couldn't be a reference to Azaria Chamberlain. I would readily agree that it's too vague, if it weren't for the fact that TBC already made a fairly clear reference to the incident with [[King Dingo]]. On the other hand, it could just as easily refer to old European folk tales about goblins stealing babies, since those are also creatures of myth & legend while dingos are not. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 17:18, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::::I may be mistaken, but I don't think that just because a bit resembles something in the real world it's definitely a reference to it. I mean, if some story of a guy shooting his computer was found, would we add that as a reference to [[virus]]? I don't think so. I think it's doubtful TBC were thinking of Australian dingo babynappers when they wrote the joke. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 23:27, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

==Good Work==

At pretty much 50 minutes from start to finish, that's one speedy article creation. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:On a semi-related note: that'll look interesting on the statistics page... a (hopefully) brief trend where the Lappy emails got shorter and shorter. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== SG:C2C Reference ==

Wether it is intended to or not, the Bear/Shark is a reference to Space Ghost: Coast 2 Coast episode "Kentucky Nightmare" where SpaceGhost shows off a spoof "nature" show about bears and sharks being "Nature's Best Friends". Space Ghost had made the documentary for public television, but they rejected it on the account of it being grossly inaccurate. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 21:33, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:The Bear Shark's been around for a long time. Unless that SG:C3C episode came out more than 3 years ago, it's a reverse reference. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::The episode came out 2001 ... That's about 5 years ago. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 21:49, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::: Even then, it'd be better noted in [[date]] or [[Bear-Shark]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:50, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:::: Done and Done. I made a section in [[Bear-Shark]] about possible references. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== SBemail police ==

Is it worth mentioning that this seems to be the end of Strong Sad's SBemail police spree?-The 4rticle B4NDIT
:Nah, not really. The "Sbemail Police" was kind of a gag just for the last email. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:'''(Edit Conflict)''' I don't think so. It'd be notable if the spree continued, but I think it's best left as-is. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::"I'm sure it's just a weather balloon or a foreign exchange student. These strange beasts just aren't real!"
::Heck, if they do something like that involving Strong Sad next week too, I say it could be counted as still on. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Annoying TV Show SFX ==

Not sure what the writer meant with the SFX and the Geddup Noise having the same "notes". You'd be hard pressed to call Geddy a musical note. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 23:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:It was nonsense, so I removed it. I also removed the claim that it was the same sound effect used when [[Taranchula]] was first mentioned, in [[band names]]. That was definitely an amplified string instrument tuned extremely low (or pitch-shifted), with a chorus effect. The myths & legends sound is percussion-based, more like a marimba riff with heavy reverb and echo. By that token, if there is an existing sound effect upon which this one is based, it would most likely be the signature "dong-dong" of the Law & Order series, both from the sound itself, and from its ridiculous overuse throughout the show. The latter argument applies even more to the signature "whoosh" of Homicide: Life on the Street. However, since neither of these shows explores myths or legends, I think a Reference would be tenuous at best. Can anyone think of a myth/legend show that has a similarly annoying signature sound effect? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:39, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear Shark Filmography ==

Hi, since this page is being worked on and had a high profile at the time, I wanted your guys' opinions on the post I made [[Talk:Bear-Shark#Filmography.3F|here]]. Any input would be most welcomed. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:46, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Many Mins? ==

Would "Very Scary Monstermin" be a reference to "Santamin", or are the two perhaps an inside joke? [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

: I thought that too. And it's only Homestar who ever says "sanataman" or "monsterman" so it could be a quirk of his.

== Mythbusters? ==

Re: comment "The show Strong Bad mentions at the begining of the email is a reference to the The Discovery Channel's popular show, Mythbusters" - no. It's more like "In Search Of..." or any number of shows exploring strange phenomena. Mythbusters is not at all like SB's show.

Agreement/disagreement? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 01:41, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I kinda agree... from what I remember, Mythbusters tries to disprove urban legends, and then if it can't, it decrees them plausible. In Search Of seems to be more like SB's show.

: I'm going to go ahead and balleet it. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 04:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I think this is more of a reference to the show, Truth or Scare.[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 13:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Whoa, hold on a sec, guys. I think the Mythbusters reference has some credence at the moment - have you guys seen their current line of ads for the show? They feature a sasquatch out in the woods talking to the camera about how afraid he is that the Mythbusters will eventually discover him. Complete with cheesy French or Russian accent (I can't tell). While it's not a direct reference, I think some mention might be due. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:53, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I second that, the whole thing, down to the Trogdor mini-ad is a spoof of the Discovery channel's latest antics, among the most popular, if not the most popular, of which is Mythbusters. The show has also been using historians to explain the origins of legends. Even though the format of "their show" is quite different, the clues are still there. *play X-files theme* --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:13, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

::Right, but the tone of the program is totally different. SB is clearly going for "In Search Of...". While the name of the programs share the word "myth", one sets out to prove or disprove a myth (Mythbusters) while this one (MM or LL?) simply lays out evidence to lead the viewer. Would you ever see blurry photographic evidence on Mythbusters? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 17:55, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear in tennis shoes? ==

Someone referred to the bear with blue soles on his feet - did anyone else see that as a reference to the old campfire song about the bear in tennis shoes? If so, is it worth mentioning?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 02:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

: My answer: What campfire song? never heard of it. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I highly doubt it. The color scheme of the shoes was obviously intended to imply that it was Homestar himself posing as the Bear-Shark. A double meaning seems unlikely. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I looked at the shoes, and I didn't see white sneakers with blue soles. It looked more like little gray lines. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Intro song ==

I get the feeling Mr. Bad goes out of his way to come up with intro songs that ''feel'' like they're parodies of something but actually are not. I certainly can't place this one, but searching the Web for similar lyrics turned up "Walkin' With a Mountain" by Mott the Hoople: 
''And if I had a choice in life'' 
''I'd take that mountain for my wife'' 
Anyone know what this song sounds like? I'm not hopeful. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:04, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Morgan Freeman ==

Could this be a reference to Half-Life? --[[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 4:08, 14 Feb 2006
:No. The protagonist of [[Wikipedia:Half-Life|Half-Life]] is named ''Gordon'' Freeman. [http://imdb.com/name/nm0000151/ Morgan Freeman] is the co-star (with Tim Robbins) of The Shawshank Redemption. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Biscuit-Dough Hands Man ==

As I'm new, I'll pose this as a question. Why was the item "Biscuitdoughhandsman is a reference to "[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]." Bubs drew him from the [[King of Town]]'s description of the criminal who stole his crown, who was actually Strong Bad." removed? It is true. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

: Well, I see it's back. Where do I learn a bit more about what is in and what is out? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 04:00, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:I'm going to guess that it was because [[Biscuit Dough Hands Man]] (note the "proper" spelling, although Strong Bad fudges it in this email) has appeared several times and has his own filmography. That said, the removal was over-hasty, because nowhere else in the article is this pointed out. While his origins don't necessarily need to be explained here, he at least needs to be mentioned and linked as an Inside Reference. He's neither present enough to be part of the Cast, nor obvious enough to be glossed over.

:As for where to learn about this sort of thing, check out [[HRWiki:Standards]]. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 04:10, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

::I removed it since he's linked above, in Remarks, and because it would be kind of unusual to provide a fun fact on a character saying "This is where this character was first introduced, and what happened in that 'toon," when a link to its page would suffice (imagine what it would be like if we did that for everything!). I'd still prefer to remove it, but I'll give it some time for debate first now that it's been reinstated and challenged. Specifically, the second sentence seems unrelated to ''this'' email, and the first sentence simply gives his origin; the only information that we really need here is that he ''is'' a pseudocharacter who has a page. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm the one who took it down in the first place. I took it down because the fact stated that his name appearing was a ''reference'' to Sb's in Jail Toon, but technically, it's not. I vote no. {{User:Salty/sig}} 13:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I have an idea. We can take down the fun fact about Biscuit Dough Hands Man, and we can link to him in the Easter eggs section! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:23, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
::How about simply mentioning where this "character" first appeared and letting that be it? We do have other references (like the Mighty Warrior from TGS) to places where infrequent characters first appeared. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Shark-Tooth Bubs? ==

Likely a stretch...but does Bubs holding a shark-tooth necklace obliquely reference to the [[Shark-Tooth Bubs]] doll? That was one of the first things that came to mind when he was selling the necklaces at the stand. -- [[User:Frickinsellout|Frickinsellout]] 11:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:Well, while it ''is'' the first thing that comes to mind, they probably have no relation whatsoever. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 12:29, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:i dunno, but that is frikken funny... i hadnt seen that b4. {{User:Csours/sig}} 15:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear vs. Shark? ==

Could the whole Bear holding a Shark thing poosibly be a reference to the indie band Bear Vs. Shark?

:Doubt it. They existed from 2003 to 2005 and were based in MI. What are the odds? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 17:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:The Real-World References for [[date]] mentions a book called ''Bear v. Shark''. It was published in 2001, so it's possible that the book inspired both the band and the counter-measure separately. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 19:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Pom Pom dog? ==

Does Homestar saying Pom Pom is his dog refwerence to Pom Pom's Character Page, and/or Biz Cas Fri? "My dog! My main man! My ace in the Hole!" Please tell me whatcha' think. Also, could Pom Pom "the dog" growling and pooping everywhere refer to how animals act different when something strange is heading their way? Your <s>onion</s> opinion is needed. {{User:Homfrog/sig}} 21:43, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

:"My dog Pom Pom" as a typical Homestar mangling of his own tendency to call everyone and everything, specifically including Pom Pom, his "dawg"? Sounds plausible to me. I would not call it obvious enough that it couldn't be unintentional, but probably worth mentioning.

:Growling and pooping? Well, um, yeah. That was kind of the whole point. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 02:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
i thought of the Carve-nival first thing. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:09, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear v. Radiohead ==

The shot glasses look like the Radiohead 'Kid A' logo.

There's a picture of it up at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bear20Big.gif .

:Yes they do, but only because they're both fairly primitive drawings of bears. Nothing compelling to connect them, I think. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 02:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

== Homes with Rollercoasters in them Network ==

Currently the real world reference to this show includes home improvement shows like Monster House. However this could just as easily be a reference to shows like MTV Cribs which feature celebtrities and their outreageous homes.

== Cornsistency ==
Maybe it's just me, but I think there should be some consistency in the transcript for A/The/the Mighty Warrior. The cast list says "A", as does his bio, but the transcript and Inside Reference says the/The. My personal feeling is "A" works best, with a link to the definite article page, but I don't want to take that initiative without others' opinions. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 05:24, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Talk:500 The Cheats

2006-02-14T04:05:32Z

Spell4yr: /* i can't hear it LOL */

== Why? ==

What the crap? Why? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 07:34, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
: I dunno. Why not? Maybe they just had lots and lots of old The Cheat drawings sitting around. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm with you, thunderbird. -- [[User:TheRealZajac|The Real Zajac]] 00:09, 13 Feb 2006 (PST)
:I believe the answer to the question "Why?" can in this case be answered in two words: "Why not?" {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::Wow, that was... odd. Feels like a Fanstuff. But I suppose it was because they have so dang many sketches lying around by now that they could edit them into a slideshow—kind of like leftovers casserole. The whole thing felt very Japanese, like the vibe of the [[Super NES|original theme song video]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 08:28, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Weird little toon. Heh. Maybe this was an early... uh... *very* early [[cheatday|The Cheatday]] present? -[[User:YK|YK]] 10:35, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:Happy mornings. Email later. This will be a good day. Anybody want to count the drawings to make sure there are 500 of them? I'm kidding. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:22, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::<s>There are exactly 498 frames (not including the "loading" and the "done"). Each frame contains one The Cheat, so there should be about 500, if not exactly 498.</s> Hmm. There are exactly 536 frames altogether. Doing it again shows me the first 13 frames are "loading", and the last 23 frames are "done". First 13 frames + last 23 frames = 36. 536 - 36 = 500. Exactly 500 frames, each including one The Cheat, which means there are exactly 500 The Cheats. Yay! {{User:FireBird/sig}} 13:37, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I counted every single little The Cheat in the background (including ones that are usually obscured) and got to 407. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

Is this the Bros Chaps equivalent of "I got nothin'"?
:This toon was accompanied by a "new email soon" button, which makes me think that they're just giving us a snack before the main course is introduced. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 16:06, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::That snack was disgusting!!!! &mdash [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]
Is this supposed to be a semi-rip of the HamsterDance?
- Kharnellius

== That Was Fast... ==

''Dayum'', you guys are fast. XD

~ [[User:Jessica Ingmann|Jessica Ingmann]]
: I've written plenty of pages before, happened to be around when the 'toon went up, and it's not like there was a whole lot ''to'' this one... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:30, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::I honestly don't think there's any way better to summarize this toon except "What the crap? Why?". You get cupcakes, thunderbird.

== Picture ==

I don't think we should have the image for this toon be the one with the real ghost cheat easter egg enabled. Can we have a different picture? - {{User:Alcnolien/sig}} 14:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:I agree. I'll replace the current one with a new one. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 14:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== i can't hear it LOL ==

i'm in a library and I can't hear the toon till I get home - so, after reading the comments here ... I am convinced that it REALLY DOES suck ... I'm not just prejudging it from the silent version. --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 15:28, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:All you're missing is music. Oh, and it doesn't suck. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:29, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::um ... yeah it does. this crap would never survive on Newgrounds --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:46, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::: No flash survives on Newgrounds unless it satifies one of the following: A.) It's really good. B.) It involves video game characters C.) It involves pooping D.) It involves pot-smoking E.)It involves violence G.) It involves sex. I have seen too many flashes there that satisfy B,C,D,E way too well without satisfying A. - cakeman
::::Yeah. Newgrounds seems to do that. Even though crappiness seems to have no effect. See: Sonic adventure 2 in four minutes; Super mario dumbshine; and super mario dy es. —[[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]
::::It actually doesn't "suck" ''as much'' when it's accompanied by music. It's got a catchy tune. It's just a little bit of candy that they gave us before the Strong Bad Email. Appreciate that TBC gave you anything at all. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:11, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:::To respond to nerd42: I didn't think it was that bad, myself, and could see it as being something offered on Albinoblacksheep. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 04:05, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Unique ==
Are each of the 500 The Cheats unique? Can somebody compare some and see if he can find any matches? (Because showcasing 500 unique Teh C. sketches is probably the point of this short.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:12, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
*possibly... i thought it repeated every 15 times or so, but im not sure after looking at it. to check,right click on the flash and uncheck play, then hit forward for each frame. do a screenshot of each one, and open them in a picture editor that allows multiple layers. then compare them in that. have fun.{{User:Csours/sig}} 17:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

==Music Track Layers==
there are 3 music layers on this thing, the drums, the cheat, and some midi/synthesizer type thing... any of them familiar on their own? {{User:Csours/sig}} 17:56, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
*Definitely the drum loop is from the homestar runner theme song. -[[User:Eman]]

==I agree with Strong Bad now...==
:Too much of a good thing is an awesome thing, but too much of an awesome thing is, um, dumb. And bad. -[[Strong Bad]] &mdash [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]
:I don't see why everyone is complaining. I liked it. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

myths & legends

2006-02-14T04:02:17Z

Spell4yr: /* Inside References */ linkage

{{sbenav|145|narrator|some kinda robot}}
[[Image:Sbemail145.PNG|thumb|Probably a weather balloon...]]
Strong Bad recounts the legendary myth of the [[Bear-Shark]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):'''
{{Film|Strong Bad}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#A Mighty Warrior|A Mighty Warrior]] (Easter egg), {{Film|Trogdor}} (Easter egg), [[Bear-Shark]], {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], The Forest

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' February 13, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 2:54

'''Page Title:''' Lappy 486

==Transcript==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' I'm livin' the Strong Bad life, I take an email for my wife. I take an email for my wife. ''{brings up and reads the email}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: Hey Strongbad!</div>
Hey Strongbad, 
Does Strong Badia have any Mysterious Myths or 
Legendary Legends? 
Cephas 
Cornwall, CA 
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad says "Strongbad" as "Two words. Two different words. That are not one word. That are 'Strong' and 'Bad'." and the name and location as "Cephas Cornwall of the Corn Army".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Mysterious Myths or Legendary Legends? Isn't that a show on one of those channels up in the high hundreds? Ya know, like between the CG Dinosaur Channel and the Homes with Rollercoasters in Them Network? Well, if not, it should be! ''{makes a static-like sound}'' Come on! ''{makes it again, but this time the screen cuts to static}'' There we go.

''{Cut to Strongbadia. Strong Bad carries a stick.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strongbadia. An idyllic fruit-opia. Rich in madeupstories and nottrueities. The nottrue-est of which...

''{He prods The Tire with his stick. The Bear-Shark pops up. The Cheat runs by, panicked.}''

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{screams in The Cheat}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...is the mighty bear holding a shark. ''{spooky music starts}'' More than a mere security counter-measure, its origins lie in the skies of old.

''{Cut to a starry sky. Constellations of the Strongbadia flag's snake, the guy with the big knife, a hand giving the "OK" symbol, a board with nails in it, General Tso's chicken, a fish with an afro, and a marathon runner.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The stars tell us that two of the seven elemental spirits of Strongbadia, the fish wearing a 'fro wig and the British distance runner, combined forces to defeat the others.

''{The two constellations in question fight, and in the end, the runner holds the fish over his head.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' In paintball... or maybe Red Rover.

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Then, through years of bad story-telling and the telephone game,

''{Over the following, images of a satyr holding a fish, labeled "Wildernessman withst Sea-Beast", an elk with a fish in its antlers, and a bad drawing of the bear-shark on the fence appear.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' The mythic beast transformed into the bear holding a shark we know today. These ancient fence drawings show evidence of destroyed crops, stolen babies, and family bike-rides. ''{The screen pans over to show bad drawings of the same.}'' Or family pie-sitting contests. Bear-holding-a-shark fever gripped the nation.

''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand, with various Bear-Shark paraphernelia.}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{holding up an ice cream bar}'' We got Bear-holding-a-shark frozen delights, ''{looking at a pile of glasses near him}'' and these shot glasses are always popular with the kids. Oh, and my favorite: ''{reaches down and produces a necklace}'' these Bear-tooth-holding-a-shark-tooth necklaces!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Of course, not everyone caught the fever.

''{Music starts and Bubs dances. Then, cut to Strong Sad. The screen reads "Bear Holding a Shark Skeptic".}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' I'm sure it's just a weather balloon or a foreign exchange student. These strange beasts just aren't real!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...said the elephant-footed ghost man. And then, one day, the Bear-holding-a-shark got the break all made-up creatures dream of. ''{The screen becomes more and more blurry, and zooms further and further into Strong Bad, on each word in:}'' Blurry photographic evidence.

''{Cut to Homestar Runner}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Now, I'm a little fuzzy on the details, but I was in the woods, walking my dog Pom Pom. All of a sudden, he started growlin' and poopin' all over the place. And that's when I saw him.

''{Static, then cut to a very fuzzy video reel of the Bear-Shark walking through the woods.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{voiceover}'' A very. Scary. Monsterman.

''{More spooky music}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Now that we've seen all the evidence, it's up to you to decide: ''{the following words appear on the screen}'' Mysterious Myth? Or Legendary Legend?

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Join us next week when we examine startling new evidence in the Biscuitdoughhandsman conspiracy.

''{More spooky music. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:WalkingwithTrogdor.PNG|thumb|Walking with Trogdor]]
[[Image:By_strong_bab_age_5.PNG|thumb|Who REALLY made all those fence drawings...]]
*After Strong Bad says "Corn Army", click on CA in the email to see a [[Teen Girl Squad]] frame of the Mighty Warrior taking on the corn army.
*Click on "CG Dinosaur Channel" to see Trogdor walk on the screen, advertising "Walking with Trogdor".
* By viewing the flash file when the "ancient fence drawings" are going by, you can see the following text written in sloppy, childish handwriting outside of the typical viewing area.
<blockquote>by strong bab ag9 5
</blockquote>
*Click on "startling" at the end to see a scene with Strong Bad and Bubs.
:''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{holding one of the Bear-Shark ice cream bars}'' So this is supposed to be the bear holding a shark? Looks more like...Morgan Freeman.
:'''BUBS:''' Oh, right! That's what it is! Now gimme twenty extra bucks for that Shawshank style.
*Click on "Biscuitdoughhandsman" to see Coach Z reporting an incident.
:''{Cut to Coach Z, standing in silhouette in front of a dark background. A caption appears reading "This guy's voice has been digitally altered again"}''
:'''COACH Z:''' ''{with voice digitally altered}'' So there I was, minding my own creepy business, when I found this severed hand in the lacker room! ''{He holds up a biscuit with a bite taken out.}''

==Fun Facts==
{{checkstuffpage}}
===Explanations===
*"CG" is short for "Computer generated".
*"Telephone Game" is a game for children where a message is whispered from one participant to another, along a group, causing the message to be distorted more and more.

===Trivia===
*This is another appearance of [[Pie|pie]].

===Remarks===
* If you look at the Bear Holding a Shark's feet during the blurry footage, you can see that they are white with blue soles, indicating Homestar's footage is not quite authentic.
* On the [[FAQ|Frequently asked questions]] page, where it shows the eyes of all the characters and allows you to fill in the names, Biscuit Dough Hands Man is multiple words. This is contradictory to the end of this email in which it is spelled "Biscuitdoughhandsman", which in turn is probably a nod to "Strongbad" at the beginning, although in an easter egg in [[rock opera]], the name is also spelled as all one word in one of the reviews given about Strong Bad's rock opera.

===Inside References===
*The Mighty Warrior discussing corn is a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]].
*The constellation scene features the [[Strong Badia|Strong Badian]] flag's snake, the [[Painting of a guy with a big knife|big knife guy]] and his knife, and [[General Tso's Chicken]], which all had connections to Strong Badia in the past.
*Coach Z's voice was digitally altered before in [[couch patch]].
*The Cheat was revealed to be scared of the Bear-Shark in [[date]].
*Strong Sad's [[Soolnds]] are mentioned again.
*One of the girls seen on a bicycle in the "ancient fence drawings" bears a resemblance to [[What's Her Face]].
*The "Bear Holding A Shark" ice cream bar is similar in style to the actual [[Ice Cream|ice cream bars]] of Homestar Runner, [[Pom Pom]] and Strong Bad, as seen in the [[Museum]].
*[[Biscuitdoughhandsman]] is a reference to "[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]." Bubs drew him from the [[King of Town]]'s description of the criminal who stole his crown, who was actually Strong Bad.
*"Strong Bab" is a reference to [[The Secrets That I Keep]], in which [[Strong Sad]]'s birthday card was signed the same way by [[Lil' Strong Bad]].

===Real-World References===
*"Walking With Trogdor" is a reference to the TV special [[Wikipedia:Walking With Dinosaurs|Walking With Dinosaurs]], which was shown in CG.
**The "Walking with Trogdor" easter egg is a reference to the recent trend of television networks to advertise for their shows by displaying short video clips along the bottom during the broadcast of another show.
*The British Long Distance Runner is likely a reference to [[Wikipedia:Roger Bannister|Roger Bannister]], the man who first ran the mile in four minutes or less.
*"Bear Holding a Shark Week" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:The Discovery Channel|The Discovery Channel]]'s [http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/sharkweek/sharkweek.html Shark Week].
*One of the fence drawings is a [[Wikipedia:TIE fighter|TIE fighter]].
*"Shawshank style" is in reference to the 1994 movie [[Wikipedia:The Shawshank Redemption|The Shawshank Redemption]] in which [[Wikipedia:Morgan Freeman|Morgan Freeman]] plays a convict.
*The Strongbadia Myth Show is a reference to [[Wikipedia:In Search Of...|In Search Of...]] and similar shows and documentaries that investigate paranormal phenomena such as [[Wikipedia:Cryptozoology|monster sightings]] and alien abductions, and often include interviews with people who claim to have encountered such things.
*The blurry video footage of the bear holding a shark is a reference to the famous [[Wikipedia:Patterson-Gimlin_film|Patterson-Gimlin]] home-movie footage of an alleged [[Wikipedia:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]] (Sasquatch) moving through a forest.
*[[Wikipedia:Fruitopia|Fruitopia]] is a fruit drink manufactured by [[Wikipedia:The Coca-Cola Company|Coca-Cola]].
*Strong Sad dismissing the existence of the Bear holding a Shark, claiming what people actually see is a weather balloon is a reference to the U.S. Government's (and skeptics') common reaction to any UFO sighting or other supernatural event.
*The "Homes with Rollercoasters in Them Network" is likely a reference to the many home improvement shows that exist on channels like [[Wikipedia:TLC|TLC]] and The Discovery Channel, in which rooms are redecorated to fit a specific theme. Such shows include [[Wikipedia:Trading Spaces|Trading Spaces]] and [[Wikipedia:Monster House|Monster House]].
*The show Strong Bad mentions at the begining of the email is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:The Discovery Channel|The Discovery Channel]]'s popular show, [[Wikipedia:Mythbusters|Mythbusters]].

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|145|7040}}
{{Strong Bad Email}}

Talk:myths & legends

2006-02-14T03:59:24Z

Spell4yr: /* Mile */

This ones mine!!! ''{Evil laugh}'' [[User:Riley|Riley]]

I'll do the Easter Eggs. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, i'll do the next one. [[User:Riley|Riley]]
==Mile==
I suppose that the "British distance runner" sort of clears up the mini-STUFF-controversy over "mile" a while back? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:That's what I thought of when I saw it too. It's not completely overt, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::Watching it again I realize it's not as blatant as I thought. I thought everything in the clouds was some sort of inside reference to something prior (when I was only half-paying attention to the scene), but since I can't place some of them to something else, I suppose the runner wasn't referencing anything either. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 03:59, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:what the what what??? btw heres a pic of roger bannister: http://www2.iaaf.org/Multimedia/Photo/AthletesLegends/Men/RogerBannister_54.jpg {{User:Csours/sig}} 02:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== cool ==

this almost made up for the crappyness of [[500 the Cheats]] --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:You need to watch over and over to really appreciate it. It's really a cute short. Just candy for some of us. But, suit yourself. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:No, it's really terrible, I was extremly dissapointed, come on, seriously, it's terrible, but then theirs the fact that unless TBC TRY to make it bad, it really can't be, but anything else is always of overall "ok" standard, but for the H*R standard, its terrilbe.

:It's got a catchy tune. It's just a little bit of candy that they gave us before the Strong Bad Email. Appreciate that TBC gave you anything at all. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::I'd just like to reiterate that this is more the kind of topic for the forum, not for a Talk page. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:08, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Interesting ==

Bubs' shirt reads: "My Baby, Got Stole... By the bear holding A Shark"... a wiki reference? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:09, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
: Uh, how? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
: I would say it's a reference to the line "A Dingo Took My Baby!" This was said in the film [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094924/ "A Cry in the Dark"] which was based on the case of Azaria Chamberlain, an Australian child whose parents claimed was taken by dingos in the night. This line has been referenced a lot, specifically in sitcoms (e.g. Seinfeld). [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00002E22E/002-0997424-1932055?v=glance&n=130 Amazon.com says:]'"The dingo took my baby" remains a derisive expression in the Australian lexicon.' [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 23:58, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::And the Videlectrix game [[King Dingo]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::If anybody wants to add this to the article, the best source to link to would be the Wikipedia article: [[Wikipedia:Azaria Chamberlain disappearance|Azaria Chamberlain disappearance]]. — [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]] 00:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
: Hmm, no. It's referencing how Strong Bad describes "evidence of destroyed crops, stolen babies, and family bike-rides" and the corny tourist attraction T-shirts that always seem to irreverantly mention some legend. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 01:09, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

==Good Work==

At pretty much 50 minutes from start to finish, that's one speedy article creation. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:On a semi-related note: that'll look interesting on the statistics page... a (hopefully) brief trend where the Lappy emails got shorter and shorter. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== SG:C2C Reference ==

Wether it is intended to or not, the Bear/Shark is a reference to Space Ghost: Coast 2 Coast episode "Kentucky Nightmare" where SpaceGhost shows off a spoof "nature" show about bears and sharks being "Nature's Best Friends". Space Ghost had made the documentary for public television, but they rejected it on the account of it being grossly inaccurate. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 21:33, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

:The Bear Shark's been around for a long time. Unless that SG:C3C episode came out more than 3 years ago, it's a reverse reference. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::The episode came out 2001 ... That's about 5 years ago. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 21:49, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
::: Even then, it'd be better noted in [[date]] or [[Bear-Shark]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:50, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:::: Done and Done. I made a section in [[Bear-Shark]] about possible references. [[User:SargeAbernathy|SargeAbernathy]] 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== SBemail police ==

Is it worth mentioning that this seems to be the end of Strong Sad's SBemail police spree?-The 4rticle B4NDIT
:Nah, not really. The "Sbemail Police" was kind of a gag just for the last email. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:'''(Edit Conflict)''' I don't think so. It'd be notable if the spree continued, but I think it's best left as-is. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

::"I'm sure it's just a weather balloon or a foreign exchange student. These strange beasts just aren't real!"
::Heck, if they do something like that involving Strong Sad next week too, I say it could be counted as still on. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Annoying TV Show SFX ==

Not sure what the writer meant with the SFX and the Geddup Noise having the same "notes". You'd be hard pressed to call Geddy a musical note. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 23:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
:It was nonsense, so I removed it. I also removed the claim that it was the same sound effect used when [[Taranchula]] was first mentioned, in [[band names]]. That was definitely an amplified string instrument tuned extremely low (or pitch-shifted), with a chorus effect. The myths & legends sound is percussion-based, more like a marimba riff with heavy reverb and echo. By that token, if there is an existing sound effect upon which this one is based, it would most likely be the signature "dong-dong" of the Law & Order series, both from the sound itself, and from its ridiculous overuse throughout the show. The latter argument applies even more to the signature "whoosh" of Homicide: Life on the Street. However, since neither of these shows explores myths or legends, I think a Reference would be tenuous at best. Can anyone think of a myth/legend show that has a similarly annoying signature sound effect? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:39, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear Shark Filmography ==

Hi, since this page is being worked on and had a high profile at the time, I wanted your guys' opinions on the post I made [[Talk:Bear-Shark#Filmography.3F|here]]. Any input would be most welcomed. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:46, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

== Many Mins? ==

Would "Very Scary Monstermin" be a reference to "Santamin", or are the two perhaps an inside joke? [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]

: I thought that too. And it's only Homestar who ever says "sanataman" or "monsterman" so it could be a quirk of his.

== Mythbusters? ==

Re: comment "The show Strong Bad mentions at the begining of the email is a reference to the The Discovery Channel's popular show, Mythbusters" - no. It's more like "In Search Of..." or any number of shows exploring strange phenomena. Mythbusters is not at all like SB's show.

Agreement/disagreement? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 01:41, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bear in tennis shoes? ==

Someone referred to the bear with blue soles on his feet - did anyone else see that as a reference to the old campfire song about the bear in tennis shoes? If so, is it worth mentioning?--[[User:H-ko|H-ko]] 02:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

: My answer: What campfire song? never heard of it. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
:I highly doubt it. The color scheme of the shoes was obviously intended to imply that it was Homestar himself posing as the Bear-Shark. A double meaning seems unlikely. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Intro song ==

I get the feeling Mr. Bad goes out of his way to come up with intro songs that ''feel'' like they're parodies of something but actually are not. I certainly can't place this one, but searching the Web for similar lyrics turned up "Walkin' With a Mountain" by Mott the Hoople: 
''And if I had a choice in life'' 
''I'd take that mountain for my wife'' 
Anyone know what this song sounds like? I'm not hopeful. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:04, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Morgan Freeman ==

Could this be a reference to Half-Life? --[[User:Cyberdemon|Cyberdemon]] 4:08, 14 Feb 2006
:No. The protagonist of [[Wikipedia:Half-Life|Half-Life]] is named ''Gordon'' Freeman. [http://imdb.com/name/nm0000151/ Morgan Freeman] is the co-star (with Tim Robbins) of The Shawshank Redemption. --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 03:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

== Biscuit-Dough Hands Man ==

As I'm new, I'll pose this as a question. Why was the item "Biscuitdoughhandsman is a reference to "[[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]." Bubs drew him from the [[King of Town]]'s description of the criminal who stole his crown, who was actually Strong Bad." removed? It is true. [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 03:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Talk:myths & legends

2006-02-13T20:41:38Z

Spell4yr:

This ones mine!!! ''{Evil laugh}'' [[User:Riley|Riley]]

I'll do the Easter Eggs. [[User:Crystallina|Crystallina]] 20:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

==Mile==
I suppose that the "British distance runner" sort of clears up the mini-STUFF-controversy over "mile" a while back? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Talk:technology

2006-01-31T03:58:27Z

Spell4yr: /* Digits of Pi */

"extrapolates voice"? I, uh, don't think that word means what you think it means.
I'd correct it, but I can't think of anything better than "adopts a high-pitched voice"

Oh, and also, I've actually seen "Computers don't BYTE" posters. In the back of libraries, where even the librarians don't go anymore.

==Endless Square?==
*That doesn't seem right. It looks the the screen saver alternates between turning left and right, making it an endless zig-zag. And that doesn't seem to be worth mentioning. ~Ostrichburger
**I concur, and I changed it to indicate alternating left/right. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

==Has anyone tried...==
*To decode what Strong Bad was saying in binary?[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 15:29, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
**You could. [http://nickciske.com/tools/binary.php This] is a handy web-based utility. Short of decoding it yourself. ;) {{User:The Paper/sig}} 15:31, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
***Actually, that doesn't work because Strong Bad doesn't say a number of characters divisable by 8, so all the decoder is doing is adding 0's to make up for the lack of bits. And could whoever put the translation specify which coding you are using? eaglescout1984 30 Jan 2006 15:40 GMT
***Actually ASCII is 7 bit system. -- Crowther
****Well, I'm still trying to find out if he is saying anything. I get lost, though. I have this so far: 1001101 means...m.[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 15:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
*****I don't have time to try again but I got 9945 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 213 + 210 + 29 + 27 + 26 24 + 23 + 20 = {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
******I don't think it adds up to anything now. I've used all of those programs, and they just come out with mainly this:�.[[User:The Noid|The Noid]] 15:46, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
*******If you're using Windows, just open up Calculator, put it in Scientific mode, switch to Binary, enter 1001101101100, then switch it to Decimal mode again. It confirms that Strong Bad's binary translates to 9945 in decimal.
*******That said, I don't think his binary speak means anything in particular. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 16:21, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
**For that matter, has anyone decoded what Strong Bad said in Semaphore? Or was he even doing real semaphore? -Ed

==Homestar Flying==
*Why on earth does homestar fly up the left side of the screen? What's that all about? [[User:dayve_57|dayve_57]]
**I'm not sure--it seemed to be more of a glitch than something done intentionally. Unless it was a callback to [[virus]]. TBC have a habit of referencing their older cartoons. [[User:Bruce|Bruce]]
:::I'm pretty sure it was just a joke. The way Homestar Runner said "four" made it seem like it was done intentionally. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:47, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I think it was just a little addition to the ridicul-ous way he raised his pitch.--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 20:52, 30 January
2006 (UTC)
:::::It has to be intentional, not a glitch, because Bubs' eyes follow Homestar up as he flies away. And how could it be a reference to [[virus]]? [[User:dayve_57|dayve_57]]
::::::I bet he was raised by wireless wires. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:49, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::If TBC wanted it to be a reference to virus, they would have made Homestar with The Homestar Runner's body, they would have made his head come off, and they would have made those weird shadowy things appear behind him. It's probably just your everyday Homestar randomness. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

== The Amber Screen ==

The screen in whihc Strong Bad describes how to select an email address is coloured Amber. this is a reference to a time in the mid 80's when Amber replaced green as the principle colour for monochrome screens. It was supposed to reduce eye strain or something.
--"Creepy Pants man"

I remember we had one of those amber monochrome screens.. Well, I was pretty little. I remember it being quite like that - that same color, with the diagonal-ish lines going up it.
No, I don't remember what year this would be.. probably very early 90's. (Probably just happened to have one.)
-- [[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 01:46, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

== Clarke's Third Law ==

It seems to me that Strongbad was referencing ''Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law'' with:

''The word technology... means... magic. It's basically anything that's really cool that you don't know how it works. And if it breaks, you have to buy a new one. Why, I've got some technology beneath my pants right now! Whoo-ya!''

''''Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law:''''
''Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.''

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_Third_Law Arthur C. Clarke's Laws]

--Kitsula

:Oh. I just plain added the thing just now. Incidentally, although I didn't include it, it's even more similar to [http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff300/fv00255.htm this corollary]. - [[User:Octan|Octan]] Jan 30 2006, 3:44PM EST

==Catacombs==

When SB said "catacombs," the first thing I thought of was the second dungeon in the original Bard's Tale game, which used the first-person viewpoint as well. I'm sure other games had tombs/catacombs as well, since it's a standard RPG element. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 19:54, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:I was instantly reminded of DungeonQuest, with the Catacombs expansion pack. The screen saver itself resembles a first-person perspective of an extremely boring game of DungeonQuest (no catacombs). -Ed

::Yeah, but the screen saver itself is just a clone of "3D Maze", which was one of a series of free 3D screen savers supplied with Win98. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:12, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:::What about adding a bullet along the lines of "Catacombs were a common setting for dungeons in 1980s RPGs, such as the Bard's Tale and DungeonQuest." The 1980s might be superfluous, since tombs and catacombs are still popular settings in RPGs, but the feel of that screensaver is very '80s, and TBC love to make references to '80s games. - [[User:Totoro|Totoro]] 00:34, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::::The "feel" of the screensaver may be '80s, but that would be a very incorrect reference - that screensaver didn't exist until '96 or '97. (Besides, I doubt you'd find an RPG-style catacomb made up of brick walls.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:36, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I remember having that screensaver when I was a kid.--[[User:Robert Benedicio|Robert Benedicio]] 20:55, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

==I can make mine say oboe shoes!==
Heh. Does anyone else like it when TBC refrence calculator words in such a funny way?
So, one time, in third grade, I remember a few kids typing

7734

on the calculators, and then turned them upside down. As you may of guessed, the H word was on the calculator screen. Very amusing. Especially when we could spell our teacher's first name on the
calculator. Weird. So does anybody like calculator words? - Oopsyoubwokeit (not logged in)
:It's a pretty common thing... I've done it before, but I don't particularily like it... - {{User:Joshua/sig}}
::Calculator talk is fun. There's 55378008, 58008, 0.7734, and a lot more I can't remember right now. --[[User:Ookelaylay|אוקאלייליי (Ookelaylay)]] 21:39, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== The Cheatbot ==

I'm not going to STUFF this because it'd probably get denied right away, and I'm definitely not going to just add it to the email's fun facts list because it'd be taken off right away. In fact, I'm not even sure if this qualifies as a fun fact...it's fun to me, at least. Anyway, might could Strong Bad's mentioning of robot's purpose (other than destroying Japan) to be to serve hors d'œuvres be a reference to the first scene of The Second Renaissance? Just think about. And no, I'm not going to put a Wikipedia link to it, it's only worth discussing if you've actually seen TSR. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 22:32, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:If by "Second Renaissance", you're referring to episodes 2 and 3 of Animatrix, then I know what you're talking about. And I think that's a stretch - the idea of service robots that can do all sorts of menial tasks has been around much much longer. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:15, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:PS: Just like when you were making fun of my name, I still think you're making things a lot harder on yourself with all that excess verbiage there. You know how much harder it is to type all that than just to type <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Animatrix|Animatrix]]</nowiki>? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:15, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

==Email Song==
Does the email song sound familiar to anyone else? I tried googling some of the key words to figure out which song it comes from, but no luck. It reminds me of something I've heard on a classic rock station though. Maybe fleetwood mac? --[[User:Racerx is Alive|racerx_is_alive]] 22:35, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== schrodinger's cat? ==

I'm not sure, so I didn't want to add this as a fun fact, and I didn't feel like going through all the STUFF stuff. Anyway, does anyone else think that the half alive/half dead goat is a reference to schrodinger's cat? [[User:Nosmorking|No Smorking]] 00:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
*No, I don't. {{unsigned|220.237.71.13|01:21, 31 January 2006 (UTC)}}
*I think it's possible - here's the Wikipedia article: [[Wikipedia:Schrodinger's Cat|Schrodinger's Cat]]. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:25, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
*I's [''sic''] more of a reference to "Is the glass half empty or half full?", that psycological question used to determine if someone is optimistic or pessimistic. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:58, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

== Digits of Pi ==

I don't entirely like the sentence "The number on the solar calculator, 3.14, is the most common representation of pi." under the fun facts heading. Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but 3.14 is not a representation of pi, it is a representation of the number 3.14 which is not pi. Perhaps a better sentence could be something of the form "The number on the solar calculator, 3.14, is the first few digits of pi".
:Perhaps "most common approximation" might work better? [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 03:58, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

==Cell phone movie festival==
Hey, when was this email released? Because if it was after 5 am, we've got another case of creepy last-minute coincidence between a real-world broadcast and a sbemail (granted, NPR ain't Family Guy): check out [http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5175556 this report on Morning Edition] about a guy writing, directing, and producing a movie on his cell phone... and hoping to win a festival. At any rate, the [http://www.cellflixfestival.org/ festival itself] might merit mention. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:56, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk:secret identity

2006-01-28T16:58:47Z

Spell4yr: /* Another goof */

==Past our bedtimes==
It has finally happened! I discovered and watched this Strong Bad email before the Wiki knew that it existed. Ah, sweet success.[[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 10:31, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:You mean not counting the fact that I started the toon page several minutes before you posted anything? ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:35, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, it let me create the page and found no conflicts when I did. I guess you just started editing it before me :-) [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 10:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, I realize I'm tooting my own horn here, but I'm [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=secret_identity&action=history&limit=2&offset=20060125102814 pretty sure] my edit was before yours. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Ugh! you can do [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=secret_identity&action=history&limit=2&offset=20060125102814 that]!? Oh and hi Triumvir! Welcome to the wiki! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:...And how exactly is that an accomplishment?
[[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 21:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Dunno where to put it, but ==

The .wad file extension is most famous for its use on data files for Doom. -- Vorn

== simpsons? ==

Isn't "worst mayo party ever" a reference to the simpsons? You know, Comic Book Guy: Worst ____ Ever!" --[[User:TheGreatLogini|TheGreatLogini]] 12:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:That's currently in dispute on the STUFF page for this toon. [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 15:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== brokeback Laramie? ==

did anyone else think about brokeback mountain when the cowboy picture came up or is there another cowboy reference that I might be missing. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:I did, but I still don't think it's a reference. More likely, Laramie is a popular setting for westerns... come to think of it, I think I'll add that. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 19:01, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Isn't Laramie a brand of cigarettes on the Simpsons, with a wild west theme (sort of like Marlboro)?
:I totally thought the same thing. Don't know if it's worth referencing, but then with all the press the movie's gotten...--Impulse2, who needs to register

Actually, the town of Laramie is sort of famous for a hate crime which killed a gay man. There is a play about it entitled The Laramie Project.--[[User:Lucyinthesky|Lucyinthesky]] 22:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

yeah, actually the only time ive ever heard of laramie personally is from the laramie project and the hate crime. it was a gay ''kid'' get ur facts straight geez

:I think two possible Simpsons references in one toon is too coincidental to be a coincedence. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:54, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::The reason that the Simpsons chose "Laramie" as the popular cigarette brand is to parody [[Wikipedia:Marlboro (cigarette)|Marlboro cigarettes]], which are also cowboy-themed. Point is, Laramie's cowboy connotations came before the Simpsons. In fact, Wikipedia has an article on the Jimmy Stewart western [[Wikipedia:The Man from Laramie|The Man from Laramie]]. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 05:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Nintendogs? ==

Is the video game "where you pretend to be a dog" Nintendogs? Or possibly Animal Crossing? Neither of those really counts since you're not actually pretending to ''be'' a dog or frog. There was another one, a non-DS one, where you actually pretend to be a dog, but I forget its name off the top of my head. - [User:Octan|Octan] Jan 25 2005, 8:38AM EST
:A Dog's Life, for the PS2. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} [[Wikipedia:Leet|13:37]], 25 January 2006 (UTC)

:Hm...aren't you a frog in Frogger?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 23:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

::I say ''Frogger'' and ''Nintendogs.'' Or perhaps ''Dog's Life'' for PS2... --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:36, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== a lot of work for one small comment ==

When SB talks about seeing the Poopsmith and himself together, I was thinking that TBC put there just to gives us work to do. It would take a bit of work, but does anyone find it worth it to list all of the times that SB and TPS have appeared in the same frame...or is that just too much work which will just amount to one small comment such as, "depsite trying to claim that he has never been seen with the poopsmith, they appeared together in ______, _____, and ______." {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:40, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Three words: [[big white face]]. And don't forget [[couch patch]]. And [[rock opera]]. And [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. And [[Parsnips-a-Plenty]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::I know, there are a bunch, but is it worth trying to find them all? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Doubt it. But who knows what bored people with no lives will do. :P - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Especially bored wiki people. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:56, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::And [[labor day]]... {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 14:00, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Like in [[The Geddup Noise]], I made [[User:Stux/Email_CheckList_Template|this]] to help make tedious searches like this one. The only thing it doesn't have is regular toons. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:32, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::You know, I remeber seeing that but I couldn't find it. SB and TPS have also appeared in several Halloween toons together. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::By the way, Parsnips-a-Plenty doesn't really count because it's an Old Timey Era with different characters. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:04, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Don't forget [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] {{User:Sbmaniac}}
:::::::::::And [[The Luau]] --Der Pepper

== Superman reference ==

Ms Fessmocker (sp?) is a reference to the female henchman(woman?) of Lex Luthor in the first Superman movie. Does this mean that the cheat is female? Maybe... probably not. It does kind of make sense that the cheat would pick a henchman of a villian as a fake name.

Would make even more sense if this was signed...--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== The Poopsmith and I? ==

Shouldn't that be "The Poopsmith and me?" -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 14:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
: Nope. The correct pronoun to use is 'I'. --[[User:Musachan|Musachan]] 15:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)Musachan
::Hmmmm ... but, wouldn't you say "Have you ever seen us together"? You + me = us. You + I = we. -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 15:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::It should be "me", not "I". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Yes. Because it is so drilled in everyone's head that you must always say "{someone} and I" (instead of "me and {someone}") in the subject of a sentence, people often don't realize that they should instead say "{someone} and me" instead in the predicate. The usage of I/me is exactly the same as if you were only speaking of yourself, and I/me should always be written last. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
My English teacher taught me to take out the extra phrase (in this case, "The Poopsmith") and see how the sentence should be without it. It would be "Have you ever seen me in...", so, it would be me. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:19, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:"(person) and me" is a terrible Americanization. Technically it '''should''' say "..and I", or better still in my eyes, the reflective "and myself". Eitherway it's an Americanization only. [[User:62.137.135.77|62.137.135.77]] 05:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:: Say to yourself: "Have you ever seen I with The Poopsmith?" Does that sound fluid at all? "Me" is the only word that fits there. The structure of the sentence (other than the prepositional phrase) does not change by adding "The Poopsmith" to "I/me". "The Poopsmith and me" is the only correct option. What's more, the reflexive is ''only'' appropriate when the subject and object are the same entity. See also: [[Wikipedia:Hypercorrection|Hypercorrection]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::You beat me to it! I was about to say that. But to reiterate anyway: "myself" is only to be used as a grammatical particle in a sentence (negating quotes of course, gotta cover all the bases) if and only if (iff for those math-types like me) "I" is the subject of the sentence. Since the subject is "You", then "myself" should never appear in the sentence. [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 16:06, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
== Real Genius ==

Could "I heart Toxic Waste" be a reference to the T-shirt Chris Knight wears in the eighties movie Real Genius?

Yeah that plus the pink bunny slippers and bath robe - he looked sort of like a cross between Chris Knight and that professor at the end, when they're both wearing the slippers.

== These edit conflicts are REALLY cheesing me off! ==

I just want to state, for the record, that I'm still very highly annoyed by receiving Edit Conflict after Edit Conflict when other people's edits have nothing to do with mine. (Someone makes a change in the transcript while I'm editing Inside References: Edit conflict.) This wasn't a problem before. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:15, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
: Actually, it used to be a problem, then it was "fixed" (but extremely glitchy; ie. One edit would auto-revert the previous edit in many cases), and then the "fix" was fixed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:20, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:You're not kidding. ._. I went through, like, nine edit conflicts to change "great" to "Greek" and remove that extra bit about Bubs. This has not been a good day so far, but that's too off topic. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Yeah, ironically the same complaint has been posted [[Talk:Main_Page#holy_edit_conflicts_batman.21|here]]. I posted a similar reply to Jay's except I didn't know if the fix had been [[Wikipedia:Spaying and neutering|fixed]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:37, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== SB's facial hair ==

Where was it that we saw Strong Bad working on growing a moustache and all he could manage was one tiny hair? Wherever that was, it seems to contradict his ability to grow stubble as Vance Mudgeman. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 19:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Maybe he can only grow the hair when he's taking on his alternate persona ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:31, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Or it could be fake. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::By the way, the pathetic tiny hair was seen in [[theme park]]. And who said he ''really'' takes the identity of Vance Mudgeman? He could be messing about with us. Remember [[highschool]]? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, it could be fake, but this email seems more, I dunno, ''real'' than just a made-up Strong Bad fantasy (which [[highschool]] certainly was). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I think that you could get a real big ice cream headache if you try to just reality from fiction in a toon where only one character resembles a human, most don't have arms (debatedly), and the narrator SB, has the maturity of some of the adolescents that I see on those judge shows. So, lets me understand this...He is a charachter on a website that thinks he's real, but also knows that he is performing and can actively let us in on events that he made up and his dreams which happened to be conveniently downloaded onto tangerine dreams for us to view. In this case, ignorance is bliss. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:22, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

==Mr. Chamberlain = Pom Pom? ==
Given Pom Pom's attraction to and luck with the ladies, and Wilt Chamberlain's [[Wikipedia:Wilt_Chamberlain#.2220.2C000_women.22_claim|legendary prowess]], is it possible that Mr. Chamberlain would be Pom Pom's pseudo-name? -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 19:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
: I was thinking Strong Mad, actually. But either way, what does "COMPED" mean? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Bubs didn't charge Mr. Chamberlain, the room was [[Wikipedia:Comp|COMP]]-limentary. -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 19:48, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
: Not to mention that only Pom Pom would be likely to get the Posh suite. That leaves only Mr. Allen Poe, who I think is Strong Sad. He had a pic of him for his blog once, I think. He'd also be into that kind of story, and would definitely require a double bed. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Very good points. I was actually only thinking of Strong Mad because of his tendency to wear costumes related to sports stars (which, admittedly, Pom Pom did once too.) And I recalled the name being mentioned on the site once before, though it actually turned out to be in [[50K Racewalker]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::'''EDC:''' Didn't Pom pom dess up as [[Kobe]] Bryant once? Ooo! I guessed the link right! What team did chamberlain play for? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:55, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::'''EDCx2:''' Oh and both played for the [[Wikipedia:Wilt_Chamberlain#Los_Angeles_Lakers|Lakers]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:58, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm not big on sports. You're lucky that I correctly realized that he was a basketball player. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== House of Portraits ==

Isn't the trailer SB is in for the "Daddy" secret identity the same one as in [[portrait]]?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 20:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yes it is. This has been mentioned. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Daemon ==

The word "daemon" can be correctly pronounced "DEE-mon" or "DAY-mon". See [http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/D/daemon.html here] for more info. [[User:ClamIAm|ClamIAm]] 20:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks for the link - I went ahead and pulled the pronunciation note from the transcript. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Easter Eggs ==

Is it just me, or was the easter egg at the end with strong sad added some time after the tune was origionally put up? I remember looking for one at the end and not finding one, and then checking the wiki and not seeing it listed. [[User:Snowboardpunk|Snowboardpunk]]

:Did you actually check, as in, with the "tab" key? If not, then you could have easily missed any egg. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::But to answer your question, yes, it was added later. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Yeah when I saw it earlier this morning I was surprised not to see an egg either. Now I have to go back and watch it again! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:03, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Whaddaya Know, Reference-Man? ==

*''[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]]'' is playing on the TV in the Mudgeman home.

I pulled this item from Inside References because I listened several times to the Mudgeman scene, and I could not hear anything that sounded like Homsar's show. Figured I'd post it here in Talk, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Actually it sounds like the chords from Caleb Rentpayer, but I can't tell for sure. --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 23:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

::I think it's definitely Haddi-Man on the TV. Some proof? Just as Strong Bad says "Jeffery Beffery", you can here that "doo-doo-DOO-doo" tune, but the words are hard to make out. While he's saying "Mudgeman", you can clearly here the words "make some new". --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 00:43, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::But there's also quite a bit of other noise in the background that wasn't there in [[for kids]] - whether that's part of the TV show or coming from elsewhere in the trailer, I don't know. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I clearly hear the line "we'll make some new friends..." (everything else is obscured by Strong Bad's voice). [[User:Jonnny|Jonnny]] 05:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::I hear it too. Though it might be coming from the other room, where the kids are. (That wouldn't explain what Strong Bad's watching and why we can't hear it though.) - [User:Octan|Octan] Jan 26 2006, 9:45PM EST
:: Seriously, it IS Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man. You just need better headphones. I'm putting it back.
Ok, I here two things:
1) Some kids, one of them apparently Jeffrey Beffrey, are laughing in another room.
2) The openning song from Haddi-Man is playing on the TV. I can almost clearly hear the tune and the voice of the singer.
{{User:Salty/sig}} 04:19, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:::It's definitely Haddi-Man's theme song. No question. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:25, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

== My Name Bubs ==

I believe the Bubs' nametag is a reference to his line ''My name cornbread'' in the Decemberween Pageant. Anyone else agree?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 00:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:Me, I thought of "My name Bubs. This is my regulah voice" from [[Sample of Style]], which was made into a Quote of the Week. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. It could be that too. They were both made Quote of The Week.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 00:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
I thought of "mine name cornbread" but I knew he said something similar somewheres. I think it could be a reference, maybe. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think it could be a little Bubs idiosyncronicity by now. (Spelling help, anyone?) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Girl on magazine ==
[[Image:Scarfgirl.PNG|thumb|right|who am I?]][[Image:baby lady real.jpg|thumb|Jackie Chapman]]
Who could be the girl on the woman's magazine?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 00:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:It of course could be [[Missy Palmer]], but I'm leaning more towards [[Jackie Chapman]], simply because it looks a bit more like her (from what we can see). Of course, it could be someone we don't know. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 00:24, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well guys, judge for [[:Image:Scarfgirl.PNG|yourselves]]: --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Um. I can't tell either. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::What I don't get is why somebody uploaded another Scarf after I already had one. Anyway, I think it looks a lot like Jackie Chapman after comparing with this: (picture at bottom right) {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:32, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agee with Mibluvr, it's probably a third person. When it comes to making a descision about this picture, VolatileChemical thinks third person is the best way to go. That's a joke, by the way. And either hyperlink that picture, or scale it down. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 03:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::'''Edit conflict'''Oh I guess someone already uploaded a version. And she even has a [[Scarfgirl|page of her own]] too! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:35, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Turns out yours was uploaded first, I was getting ready to tag mine for deletion before i got the conflict. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:36, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
{{clear}}

== PoopBad Image ==

I've uploaded the image of poopbad to here: [http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8550/poopbad8bb.png] can someone put it on the site? -- [[User:ravs|ravs]]
:This is [[HRFWiki:Main Page|Fanstuff]]. Please don't upload it onto the Knowledge Base. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::Uh...fraid not. It's the image that appears as an easter egg in the actual email. Click on "so apparently I'm not The Poopsmith" as they're being spoken. Oh, and I'll try to find somewhere to put it. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Oops, I guess I didn't see that Easter egg. My bad. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::It's already on some page somewhere, though, so uploading it is still unnecessary. Check the recent images gallery. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Great. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Sb_and_poopsmith.PNG It already exists]. ''Now'' you tell me, after I've already uploaded it. Oh, well. I'll just put it at [[Minor Character Variations]], see how that works out. I'll call this monstrosity Poopbad, because that's the only name I've heard of so far. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:11, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Now the question is: Which entry do we get rid of: the one at [[Other Character Variations]] or the one at [[Strong Bad Other Costumes]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::::::Hey! DorianGray! I was just thinking about how you're pleasantly ubiquitous. I'd say the Strong Bad Other Costumes one. It's not a costume, it's a hypothetical amalgamation. By this logi , could just as easily be called a Poopsmith costume. Plus, Poopbad is as tall as TPS, which means he could be in a costume that size, but SB couldn't have a costume that height unless that entire head is a very realistic mask. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 03:29, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with you wholeheartedly, actually. Plus I prefer the Variations pic, coz it has no extra stuff in the background. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Lodgings? ==

Has no one else noticed that Bub's is running a hotel with no rooms?
There is a chance they are off screen but this is shattered by the fact Homestar appears from behind the stand, could the rooms be hidden in the supposed Basment? or does Bub's make them sleep on the ground behind the stand? :P
:Probably the basement. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== I ♥ Flint ==

Is it just me, or are these emails verging on [[Wikipedia:Documentary film|documentary]] format? I mean, it used to be Strong Bad answering the emailer's question, then showing an example of him doing it/seeing it/showing it. But now, it's Strong Bad saying he often does a certain thing, and then they'll switch to "[[Wikipedia:Stock footage|stock footage]]" of him doing that thing. More often than not, he narrates the clip. Like in "secret identity" itself, with Strong Bad describing all his alter-ego's, and then suddenly switching to him as that ego in the past. The clips must be in the past because the Tip Tappers one is during the night, and Strong Bad wouldn't take two days to answer an email).

Either that, or he'll say he's going to do something, and then the "directors" switch to other people talking about what he did without showing him doing it. Even though you don't see him doing it, it no doubt happened, due to the character's reaction. This proves the declaration of intent to exercise a certain action, the action-doing itself, and reaction of the other characters are all "filmed". Whether they're edited out or not varies.

Sometimes, Strong Bad (or, in this case, Bubs) will say he's going to do something, then they skip the doing, and go straight to the reaction. Like in [[virus]]. Declaration: Bubs says he's going to shotgun the [[Compy 386|Compy]]; Reaction: Strong Bad runs off crying and Homestar hops on one leg. The action is skipped. Other times, the declaration is stated, completed, and then reacted to. In [[modeling]], Strong Bad says he's going to get Pom Pom take pictures of him, then he does this, and him and Strong Sad talk about it at the end. Other times, Strong Bad will say he'll do something, then he'll do it, and finish the email without showing the reaction. In [[ghosts]], Strong Bad says he'll sweep [[Strongbadia|Strong Badia]] for paranormal activity with The Cheat, and he does, but then he ends the email ends without anyone reacting to it.

I'm sorry that I've taken up so much space with those last two paragraphs, and I just wrote those parts to prove that every action and reaction in these emails are filmed, but some parts are edited out. Okay, so: we got stock footage, editing, talking only to the camera numerous times instead of to someone else or writing the response, plus the fact that he's answering real life fan mail...even though you guys probably won't believe b/w agree with me, but I think these emails have long surpassed [[Fourth Wall Breaks|fourth wall breakings]], and are now full-fledged mockumentaries.

<nowiki>*</nowiki>prepares for the annoying barage of disagreements or personal insults or threats on my life coming from the same condescendingly ubiquitous group of users who get into every moderately imporatant argument on toon pages that seems to follow me like the tail of a snake on that [[Wikipedia:Snake (video game)|cell phone game]]* --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:I disagree you <nowiki>*** **** $&$$*@!!! ***** chinese dentist! I'ma kill</nowiki> — err, gotta be firm. Well, I'm kinda not sure I see what your point is. If most emails fall under one of those few categories, then most, if not all, well not all, but a lot, of emails are like that, so it kinda hasn't "changed", but what do you expect? Him to say he did something, then the email ends? It's kinda the only way to do things, unless you want every email to be like [[some kinda robot]]. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::TBC are known to like ''Arrested Development'', which cuts to different scenes and/or back in time in documentary style. Maybe they like that type of format and are either intentionally using it or subconsciously being influenced by it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Ooh, Chinese dentist! That's the best one yet. Anyway, yes, ''Arrested Development''. Great show. That's kinda what subconsciously inspired me to make this argument. Same style. To the teeth. Metaphorical teeth, that is. And It's dot com, it shouldn't be noted that I originally planned to say that all the people in that group of condescendingly ubiquitous sooth-sayers and life-threateners include you personally in pretty much every single capacity I was thinking of! I would've said "like that guy [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]", but I was afraid you or someone like you would go all "admin" on me and get mad at me and talk at me in that way that shows they're trying to be polite and not sound like you've broken one of the seven deadly sins (by using words like "could you please" or "next time, try to") but fail miserably. Not that admins fail miserably at anything, no, of course not...they're the g-greatest people in the world! Hehe...heh...*runs off screaming* *as I'm saying this next part my voice is gradually fading away into the distance as I run* To answer Salty's accusations with a lack of question but with an implied inquisitive tone as to my desire that every email should be like [[some kinda robot|SKR]], the answer is no! I wasn't saying I didn't like that really old style where he doesn't really do anything, or even say he'll do anything for that matter. I was just trying to prove that all parts of the email-making process are filmed by breaking the parts into categories such as declaration action and reaction, then going on to prove that they're not all shown, just to prove that these emails are (in the Homestar Runniverse) edited, thus making them more like documentaries. Wow, my voice has gone on for a really long time of fading away without disappearing into silence. Anyway, the meaning of life is ''not'' forty-two, it's actually... *voice fades away* --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 03:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== Not My E-Mail, Yo ==

The Chaps didn't use my e-mail. That's just the way life goes, I guess. Has anyone noticed that Strong Bad has never answered an e-mail from a wiki user? Whatever, I guess I should watch this one. Kinda pointless, but hey, I don't have much life beyond Homestar. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:Actually, they have. [[montage]] was sent in by a wiki user. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
There's been more than that. There was [[animal]] (sent by kerrek slaya) and.... that's it. It makes me wonder, if there's so many wiki users, how could only two have there email picked, out of all the percentage of Homestar Runner fans, that comes out to about 1.4% of emails checked sent by wiki users. There's gotta be more than 1% of fans being wiki fans, right? {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::It wouldn't shock me in the least if that statistic was ''exactly'' right... if not on the generous side. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Well... actually. If you look at things from a different perspective, 1.4% might not be so bad after all: considering the number of H*R fans that contribute to this wiki (out of ~5,000 registered users, i'd say maybe 1,000 if not less are or have been active and/or legitimate). Let's be generous and say we have 4,000 registered users. I don't know the actual statistics, but I think i read somewhere that TBC has ~1,000,000 hits a month. So i'll be conservative and estimate that there are 500,000 H*R fans in existence. That's roughly 0.8% of the fan population that contributes to the wiki. Less conservative estimates (say 2,500 contributors and 750,000 fans) yield smaller numbers (in this case 0.3333%). So, by comparison, one could argue that the proportions of accepted wikian emails vs. general fan populations is bigger, or something. I should be doing my stats HW instead of this. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:05, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well, your forgetting [[User:Shim-Sham-Sam|Shim-Sham-Sam]], who sent [[time capsule]], [[User:NachoMan|NachoMan]], who sent [[portrait]], and a certain forum user who sent [[space program]]. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 23:20, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

=="Sign-in Book" Fun Facts==

What about moving all the "Guestbook Fun Facts", (there's over a dozen, from the references of the names, to who's behind the names) into one "Special Fun Fact" subheading? Much like we did with [[boring (really)#Fun Facts|Strong Bad's List Of 3 Letter Words]]? Perhaps in a table or something? It's kind of hard to figure out just who's who, and why, when the fun facts are all around everwhere. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:11, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'd agree to that. I think it'd look neat. Although when I first saw this edit summary, I was thinkin' "Why the crap is he writing about [[HRWiki:Guestbooks|guestbooks]] ''here''?" --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::I keep getting edit conflicted, so I'll just leave him to it and mention it here. It somehow needs to mention "Why The Bed", and have a Wikipedia link somewhere there for the person referenced. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:21, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::: I got the main layout finished, anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:27, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::The wiki-link for "Mr. Tesmacher" doesn't explain it at all, as far as I can tell the article doesn't have "tesmacher" in it at all. Anybody know anything about Tesmacher to get a better link or something? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:41, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::: Eh, it made sense when there was a separate fact explaining it, which is the only case where I really think that even might be necessary without a better link. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:42, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Skull Barette ==

The skull-and-bone barette that Cara Carabowditbowdit wears is really ringing a bell for me, but I can't quite place it. It's possible that I'm thinking of Elmyra, from Tiny Toon Adventures, who wore a bow in her hair with a skull in the middle, but I still feel like there's someone more directly similar. Some sort of comic strip or comic book character? Anyone? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 14:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:Nope, sorry I'm no help with that one. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::Elmyra's hair decoration was pretty different from Cara's. I agree that the skull barette feels like a reference but I'm not sure to what. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Real-world References ==

The items listed in Bub's guestbook are real people and belong in real world references... just as they do in every single other toon. Just because other H*R character take those name as their pseudonym doesn't negate their existence as a real world reference. Please stop removing that section! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:They were listed as references in the special section. There's no reason to split them up like that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:14, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::I think that this is improper and out of line with every other toon. There is no good reason to seperate those real-world references from the others for the reasons stated above. I kindly ask that you revert your edit on this one. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:20, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm fine with it being a special case. (We have other special cases in [[50 emails]], [[boring (really)]], and [[bottom 10]], just to name a few.) If it was just one or two lines, it wouldn't be so bad, but in this case we shouldn't present such lengthy information separately. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Hi guys! I was disconnected for a little bit so I missed all the fun. The reason I made the reorganization was as a result of the different edits surrounding this theme. Having this information spread out like this seemed to me a little haphazard and redundant. So I opted to combine all this information into one subsection for clarity. (I originally had [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] in mind as a framework, but now that I see it, it's a different kind of organization; Dot com's examples are better.) Nevertheless, this structure seemed more logical and reasonable than what had been in place. So I think it is reason enough to break with our typical structure and do things a little differently :) Now, to DO that stats hw i've been griping about for days. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:39, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== floppy disk stuff ==

''This thread has been moved to [[Talk:Strong Bad Email#Floppy_Disk_Container|Talk:Strong Bad Email → Floppy Disk Container]] due to its relevance to each of the emails, not just this one.''

== Real Genius! ==

Puppet Homestar sings a song from Real Genius in [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2472939609435805830&q=Homestar this] video from a convention. Coincedence? I think not! Except, I don't know where to put this or even whether it should be put somewhere at all. --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 16:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:Good find, but I don't see what the relevance is to this toon. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:14, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::"Homestar's I ♥ Toxic Waste shirt is a reference to the movie Real Genius." Maybe TBC are fans or something. --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 22:23, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Type Writer Room ==

The room where Strong Bad as Cara Caraboutitboutit(sp?) is typing his article, is very similar to the room in The Interview where he is also typing.

:Yes, it is. That's why [[Smoky Office]] was added to the "Places" section of the page. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Another goof ==

Did anyone else notice that there is a grammatical error on the cover of "Scarfgirl" magazine? It should be "''Are'' politics bad?" not "''Is'' politics bad?". I'm not sure if this is worth noting, so I thought I'd mention it here instead and let all of you regulars decide. (originally posted by anonymous poster)
:"Politics" is a singular noun, so "politics is ..."/"Is politics ...?" is the correct verb tense usage. Definition 1 from the American Heritage Dictionary (quoted from dictionary.com):
:'''''(used with a sing. verb)''' The art or science of government or governing, especially the governing of a political entity, such as a nation, and the administration and control of its internal and external affairs.''
:''Political science.''
:[[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 21:05, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, also its a teen magazine of some sort so the grammatical error are prolly intentional
:Look at the definition I posted, it's NOT a grammatical error. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 03:25, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::I stand corrected on the verb agreement; however, you left out an important part of the definition: "Usage Note: Politics, although plural in form, takes a singular verb when used to refer to the art or science of governing or to political science: Politics has been a concern of philosophers since Plato. But in its other senses politics can take either a singular or plural verb. Many other nouns that end in -ics behave similarly, and the user is advised to consult specific entries for precise information." (Also from Dictionary.com). That is, it is not singular, but it may take a singular verb as well as a plural verb in most of its meanings.
:::I left out the important usage note because we weren't dealing with plural verbs. Yes, "Are politics bad?" ''could'' be correct (I don't really think in that context, personally), but the question was over politics' singularity, not over its ambiguity. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 16:58, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think since "politics" is short for "political science", the s from "Science" is like, "blended" (not sure how to put this) into the shortened word. It's the same way with "forensic science", which is shortened to "forensics". I guess there's like a new rule that I am inventing with sciences and English. {{User:Salty/sig}} 22:47, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== what was wrong with what i added? ==

well, about when strong bad threw homestar and KOT? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:22, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:You're going to need to tell us what it was you posted before we can answer that. Stuff gets removed around here all the time, but if you let me know what it was, I can probably give you an idea, at least, why it was removed. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:24, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::OK, I looked up what it was. The problem is that it isn't a clear enough reference: characters throwing other characters doesn't ''necessarily'' refer to Looney Tunes or other cartoons. It may be similar, but we usually only note clear references. That's why it
got reverted (I assume). {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:27, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:::TTATOT {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:12, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

==Uh, The Poopsmith, definite article, stuff==

So, the fun facts state that this is the first time The Poopsmith has been named with the definite article. That sentence makes no sense to me. I would like it clarified, but moreover, I would like it deleted. But I'd like to see someone make sense of it. {{unsigned|Kimn|02:29, 27 January 2006}}
:I think what this means is the like "The Cheat" we find out that his name is "'''T'''he Poopsmith" rather than '''t'''he poopsmith, which would be his job. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:10, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::I added the reference because, when Strong Bad types (and says) "So I'm apparently not The Poopsmith", I noticed that he typed "'''T'''he Poopsmith" and not "the Poopsmith". The capital "The" in that made this an instance of using the [[Definite Article]], and this was the first time he's been explicitly named as such. In previous toons, he has been called "Poopsmith" without the "The", and Strong Bad has typed "the Poopsmith" (with "the" in lower-case). {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== Between you and me, it shouldn't be "you and I" ==

Some IP removed the "The Poopsmith and I" Goof and it went uncaught, so let's start this up again:

The phrase should be "The Poopsmith and me". Strong Bad is committing a common error called [[Wikipedia:Hypercorrection|hypercorrection]]. You see, when young or learning English, many people are taught that you shouldn't say, for instance, "Me and you are Homestar Runner fans." This is corrected to: "You and I are Homestar Runner fans." And that's perfectly correct... in the ''subject'' of the sentence.

However, what is often not stressed is that in the ''predicate'', "me" should still be "me." "Homestar Runner is watched by you and I" is '''''WRONG'''''. It's "Homestar Runner is watched by you and me." The simple method is to say the sentence:

a) without the person who isn't "I" or "me": "Homestar Runner is watched by me." 
b) using "us" or "we": "Homestar Runner is watched by we" is clearly wrong. We = you and I; Us = you and me.

In this case, the sentence sounds wrong as "Have you ever seen we in the same place at the same time?" So the word should be "me". Don't remove the fact. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:40, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

==Homestar's Pseudonym==
"Unless the email is not in chronological order, Homestar already has a pseudonym ("Mr. Dee Williams") when he talks about getting one in the Easter egg."

I removed this before, and it got readded. Since I'm not a registered user, I guess I can understand that. My reasoning for this is as follows: Webster's lists the definition of pseudonym as "a fictitious name; especially : PEN NAME". Given that "Cara Caraboutitboutit" was the only one that Strong Bad actually called a pseudonym, I believe TBC is using pseudonym to mean a "pen name" as well. Under that definition, "Mr. Dee Williams" is not a pseudonym. Any thoughts? Is this something that should be voted on? If so, could someone do that? [[User:70.224.232.14|70.224.232.14]] 04:45, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
: A pen name is a pseudonym, but a pseudonym is not necessarily a pen name. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:46, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, not all pseudonyms are pen names; as long as they aren't your real name, it would probably be a pseudonym. I'd accept this fact {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
::: Still, it seems like kind of a wishy-washy fact. Homestar's not the brightest bulb on the lamp. And even if the sentence is true, why does this need to be pointed out? I'ma STUFF it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:52, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk:secret identity

2006-01-27T03:25:52Z

Spell4yr: /* Another goof */ response to anony

==Past our bedtimes==
It has finally happened! I discovered and watched this Strong Bad email before the Wiki knew that it existed. Ah, sweet success.[[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 10:31, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:You mean not counting the fact that I started the toon page several minutes before you posted anything? ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:35, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, it let me create the page and found no conflicts when I did. I guess you just started editing it before me :-) [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 10:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, I realize I'm tooting my own horn here, but I'm [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=secret_identity&action=history&limit=2&offset=20060125102814 pretty sure] my edit was before yours. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Ugh! you can do [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=secret_identity&action=history&limit=2&offset=20060125102814 that]!? Oh and hi Triumvir! Welcome to the wiki! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:...And how exactly is that an accomplishment?
[[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 21:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Dunno where to put it, but ==

The .wad file extension is most famous for its use on data files for Doom. -- Vorn

== simpsons? ==

Isn't "worst mayo party ever" a reference to the simpsons? You know, Comic Book Guy: Worst ____ Ever!" --[[User:TheGreatLogini|TheGreatLogini]] 12:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:That's currently in dispute on the STUFF page for this toon. [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 15:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== brokeback Laramie? ==

did anyone else think about brokeback mountain when the cowboy picture came up or is there another cowboy reference that I might be missing. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:I did, but I still don't think it's a reference. More likely, Laramie is a popular setting for westerns... come to think of it, I think I'll add that. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 19:01, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Isn't Laramie a brand of cigarettes on the Simpsons, with a wild west theme (sort of like Marlboro)?
:I totally thought the same thing. Don't know if it's worth referencing, but then with all the press the movie's gotten...--Impulse2, who needs to register

Actually, the town of Laramie is sort of famous for a hate crime which killed a gay man. There is a play about it entitled The Laramie Project.--[[User:Lucyinthesky|Lucyinthesky]] 22:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

yeah, actually the only time ive ever heard of laramie personally is from the laramie project and the hate crime. it was a gay ''kid'' get ur facts straight geez

:I think two possible Simpsons references in one toon is too coincidental to be a coincedence. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:54, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::The reason that the Simpsons chose "Laramie" as the popular cigarette brand is to parody [[Wikipedia:Marlboro (cigarette)|Marlboro cigarettes]], which are also cowboy-themed. Point is, Laramie's cowboy connotations came before the Simpsons. In fact, Wikipedia has an article on the Jimmy Stewart western [[Wikipedia:The Man from Laramie|The Man from Laramie]]. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 05:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Nintendogs? ==

Is the video game "where you pretend to be a dog" Nintendogs? Or possibly Animal Crossing? Neither of those really counts since you're not actually pretending to ''be'' a dog or frog. There was another one, a non-DS one, where you actually pretend to be a dog, but I forget its name off the top of my head. - [User:Octan|Octan] Jan 25 2005, 8:38AM EST
:A Dog's Life, for the PS2. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} [[Wikipedia:Leet|13:37]], 25 January 2006 (UTC)

:Hm...aren't you a frog in Frogger?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 23:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

::I say ''Frogger'' and ''Nintendogs.'' Or perhaps ''Dog's Life'' for PS2... --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:36, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== a lot of work for one small comment ==

When SB talks about seeing the Poopsmith and himself together, I was thinking that TBC put there just to gives us work to do. It would take a bit of work, but does anyone find it worth it to list all of the times that SB and TPS have appeared in the same frame...or is that just too much work which will just amount to one small comment such as, "depsite trying to claim that he has never been seen with the poopsmith, they appeared together in ______, _____, and ______." {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:40, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Three words: [[big white face]]. And don't forget [[couch patch]]. And [[rock opera]]. And [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. And [[Parsnips-a-Plenty]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::I know, there are a bunch, but is it worth trying to find them all? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Doubt it. But who knows what bored people with no lives will do. :P - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Especially bored wiki people. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:56, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::And [[labor day]]... {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 14:00, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Like in [[The Geddup Noise]], I made [[User:Stux/Email_CheckList_Template|this]] to help make tedious searches like this one. The only thing it doesn't have is regular toons. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:32, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::You know, I remeber seeing that but I couldn't find it. SB and TPS have also appeared in several Halloween toons together. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::By the way, Parsnips-a-Plenty doesn't really count because it's an Old Timey Era with different characters. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:04, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Don't forget [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] {{User:Sbmaniac}}
:::::::::::And [[The Luau]] --Der Pepper

== Superman reference ==

Ms Fessmocker (sp?) is a reference to the female henchman(woman?) of Lex Luthor in the first Superman movie. Does this mean that the cheat is female? Maybe... probably not. It does kind of make sense that the cheat would pick a henchman of a villian as a fake name.

Would make even more sense if this was signed...--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== The Poopsmith and I? ==

Shouldn't that be "The Poopsmith and me?" -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 14:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
: Nope. The correct pronoun to use is 'I'. --[[User:Musachan|Musachan]] 15:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)Musachan
::Hmmmm ... but, wouldn't you say "Have you ever seen us together"? You + me = us. You + I = we. -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 15:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::It should be "me", not "I". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Yes. Because it is so drilled in everyone's head that you must always say "{someone} and I" (instead of "me and {someone}") in the subject of a sentence, people often don't realize that they should instead say "{someone} and me" instead in the predicate. The usage of I/me is exactly the same as if you were only speaking of yourself, and I/me should always be written last. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
My English teacher taught me to take out the extra phrase (in this case, "The Poopsmith") and see how the sentence should be without it. It would be "Have you ever seen me in...", so, it would be me. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:19, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:"(person) and me" is a terrible Americanization. Technically it '''should''' say "..and I", or better still in my eyes, the reflective "and myself". Eitherway it's an Americanization only. [[User:62.137.135.77|62.137.135.77]] 05:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:: Say to yourself: "Have you ever seen I with The Poopsmith?" Does that sound fluid at all? "Me" is the only word that fits there. The structure of the sentence (other than the prepositional phrase) does not change by adding "The Poopsmith" to "I/me". "The Poopsmith and me" is the only correct option. What's more, the reflexive is ''only'' appropriate when the subject and object are the same entity. See also: [[Wikipedia:Hypercorrection|Hypercorrection]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::You beat me to it! I was about to say that. But to reiterate anyway: "myself" is only to be used as a grammatical particle in a sentence (negating quotes of course, gotta cover all the bases) if and only if (iff for those math-types like me) "I" is the subject of the sentence. Since the subject is "You", then "myself" should never appear in the sentence. [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 16:06, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
== Real Genius ==

Could "I heart Toxic Waste" be a reference to the T-shirt Chris Knight wears in the eighties movie Real Genius?

Yeah that plus the pink bunny slippers and bath robe - he looked sort of like a cross between Chris Knight and that professor at the end, when they're both wearing the slippers.

== These edit conflicts are REALLY cheesing me off! ==

I just want to state, for the record, that I'm still very highly annoyed by receiving Edit Conflict after Edit Conflict when other people's edits have nothing to do with mine. (Someone makes a change in the transcript while I'm editing Inside References: Edit conflict.) This wasn't a problem before. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:15, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
: Actually, it used to be a problem, then it was "fixed" (but extremely glitchy; ie. One edit would auto-revert the previous edit in many cases), and then the "fix" was fixed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:20, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:You're not kidding. ._. I went through, like, nine edit conflicts to change "great" to "Greek" and remove that extra bit about Bubs. This has not been a good day so far, but that's too off topic. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Yeah, ironically the same complaint has been posted [[Talk:Main_Page#holy_edit_conflicts_batman.21|here]]. I posted a similar reply to Jay's except I didn't know if the fix had been [[Wikipedia:Spaying and neutering|fixed]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:37, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== SB's facial hair ==

Where was it that we saw Strong Bad working on growing a moustache and all he could manage was one tiny hair? Wherever that was, it seems to contradict his ability to grow stubble as Vance Mudgeman. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 19:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Maybe he can only grow the hair when he's taking on his alternate persona ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:31, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Or it could be fake. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::By the way, the pathetic tiny hair was seen in [[theme park]]. And who said he ''really'' takes the identity of Vance Mudgeman? He could be messing about with us. Remember [[highschool]]? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, it could be fake, but this email seems more, I dunno, ''real'' than just a made-up Strong Bad fantasy (which [[highschool]] certainly was). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I think that you could get a real big ice cream headache if you try to just reality from fiction in a toon where only one character resembles a human, most don't have arms (debatedly), and the narrator SB, has the maturity of some of the adolescents that I see on those judge shows. So, lets me understand this...He is a charachter on a website that thinks he's real, but also knows that he is performing and can actively let us in on events that he made up and his dreams which happened to be conveniently downloaded onto tangerine dreams for us to view. In this case, ignorance is bliss. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:22, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

==Mr. Chamberlain = Pom Pom? ==
Given Pom Pom's attraction to and luck with the ladies, and Wilt Chamberlain's [[Wikipedia:Wilt_Chamberlain#.2220.2C000_women.22_claim|legendary prowess]], is it possible that Mr. Chamberlain would be Pom Pom's pseudo-name? -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 19:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
: I was thinking Strong Mad, actually. But either way, what does "COMPED" mean? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Bubs didn't charge Mr. Chamberlain, the room was [[Wikipedia:Comp|COMP]]-limentary. -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 19:48, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
: Not to mention that only Pom Pom would be likely to get the Posh suite. That leaves only Mr. Allen Poe, who I think is Strong Sad. He had a pic of him for his blog once, I think. He'd also be into that kind of story, and would definitely require a double bed. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Very good points. I was actually only thinking of Strong Mad because of his tendency to wear costumes related to sports stars (which, admittedly, Pom Pom did once too.) And I recalled the name being mentioned on the site once before, though it actually turned out to be in [[50K Racewalker]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::'''EDC:''' Didn't Pom pom dess up as [[Kobe]] Bryant once? Ooo! I guessed the link right! What team did chamberlain play for? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:55, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::'''EDCx2:''' Oh and both played for the [[Wikipedia:Wilt_Chamberlain#Los_Angeles_Lakers|Lakers]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:58, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm not big on sports. You're lucky that I correctly realized that he was a basketball player. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== House of Portraits ==

Isn't the trailer SB is in for the "Daddy" secret identity the same one as in [[portrait]]?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 20:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yes it is. This has been mentioned. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Daemon ==

The word "daemon" can be correctly pronounced "DEE-mon" or "DAY-mon". See [http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/D/daemon.html here] for more info. [[User:ClamIAm|ClamIAm]] 20:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks for the link - I went ahead and pulled the pronunciation note from the transcript. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Easter Eggs ==

Is it just me, or was the easter egg at the end with strong sad added some time after the tune was origionally put up? I remember looking for one at the end and not finding one, and then checking the wiki and not seeing it listed. [[User:Snowboardpunk|Snowboardpunk]]

:Did you actually check, as in, with the "tab" key? If not, then you could have easily missed any egg. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::But to answer your question, yes, it was added later. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Yeah when I saw it earlier this morning I was surprised not to see an egg either. Now I have to go back and watch it again! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:03, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Whaddaya Know, Reference-Man? ==

*''[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]]'' is playing on the TV in the Mudgeman home.

I pulled this item from Inside References because I listened several times to the Mudgeman scene, and I could not hear anything that sounded like Homsar's show. Figured I'd post it here in Talk, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Actually it sounds like the chords from Caleb Rentpayer, but I can't tell for sure. --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 23:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

::I think it's definitely Haddi-Man on the TV. Some proof? Just as Strong Bad says "Jeffery Beffery", you can here that "doo-doo-DOO-doo" tune, but the words are hard to make out. While he's saying "Mudgeman", you can clearly here the words "make some new". --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 00:43, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::But there's also quite a bit of other noise in the background that wasn't there in [[for kids]] - whether that's part of the TV show or coming from elsewhere in the trailer, I don't know. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I clearly hear the line "we'll make some new friends..." (everything else is obscured by Strong Bad's voice). [[User:Jonnny|Jonnny]] 05:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::I hear it too. Though it might be coming from the other room, where the kids are. (That wouldn't explain what Strong Bad's watching and why we can't hear it though.) - [User:Octan|Octan] Jan 26 2006, 9:45PM EST
:: Seriously, it IS Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man. You just need better headphones. I'm putting it back.

== My Name Bubs ==

I believe the Bubs' nametag is a reference to his line ''My name cornbread'' in the Decemberween Pageant. Anyone else agree?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 00:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:Me, I thought of "My name Bubs. This is my regulah voice" from [[Sample of Style]], which was made into a Quote of the Week. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. It could be that too. They were both made Quote of The Week.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 00:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
I thought of "mine name cornbread" but I knew he said something similar somewheres. I think it could be a reference, maybe. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think it could be a little Bubs idiosyncronicity by now. (Spelling help, anyone?) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Girl on magazine ==
[[Image:Scarfgirl.PNG|thumb|right|who am I?]][[Image:baby lady real.jpg|thumb|Jackie Chapman]]
Who could be the girl on the woman's magazine?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 00:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:It of course could be [[Missy Palmer]], but I'm leaning more towards [[Jackie Chapman]], simply because it looks a bit more like her (from what we can see). Of course, it could be someone we don't know. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 00:24, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well guys, judge for [[:Image:Scarfgirl.PNG|yourselves]]: --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Um. I can't tell either. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::What I don't get is why somebody uploaded another Scarf after I already had one. Anyway, I think it looks a lot like Jackie Chapman after comparing with this: (picture at bottom right) {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:32, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agee with Mibluvr, it's probably a third person. When it comes to making a descision about this picture, VolatileChemical thinks third person is the best way to go. That's a joke, by the way. And either hyperlink that picture, or scale it down. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 03:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::'''Edit conflict'''Oh I guess someone already uploaded a version. And she even has a [[Scarfgirl|page of her own]] too! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:35, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Turns out yours was uploaded first, I was getting ready to tag mine for deletion before i got the conflict. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:36, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
{{clear}}

== PoopBad Image ==

I've uploaded the image of poopbad to here: [http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8550/poopbad8bb.png] can someone put it on the site? -- [[User:ravs|ravs]]
:This is [[HRFWiki:Main Page|Fanstuff]]. Please don't upload it onto the Knowledge Base. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::Uh...fraid not. It's the image that appears as an easter egg in the actual email. Click on "so apparently I'm not The Poopsmith" as they're being spoken. Oh, and I'll try to find somewhere to put it. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Oops, I guess I didn't see that Easter egg. My bad. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::It's already on some page somewhere, though, so uploading it is still unnecessary. Check the recent images gallery. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Great. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Sb_and_poopsmith.PNG It already exists]. ''Now'' you tell me, after I've already uploaded it. Oh, well. I'll just put it at [[Minor Character Variations]], see how that works out. I'll call this monstrosity Poopbad, because that's the only name I've heard of so far. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:11, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Now the question is: Which entry do we get rid of: the one at [[Other Character Variations]] or the one at [[Strong Bad Other Costumes]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::::::Hey! DorianGray! I was just thinking about how you're pleasantly ubiquitous. I'd say the Strong Bad Other Costumes one. It's not a costume, it's a hypothetical amalgamation. By this logi , could just as easily be called a Poopsmith costume. Plus, Poopbad is as tall as TPS, which means he could be in a costume that size, but SB couldn't have a costume that height unless that entire head is a very realistic mask. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 03:29, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with you wholeheartedly, actually. Plus I prefer the Variations pic, coz it has no extra stuff in the background. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Lodgings? ==

Has no one else noticed that Bub's is running a hotel with no rooms?
There is a chance they are off screen but this is shattered by the fact Homestar appears from behind the stand, could the rooms be hidden in the supposed Basment? or does Bub's make them sleep on the ground behind the stand? :P
:Probably the basement. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== I ♥ Flint ==

Is it just me, or are these emails verging on [[Wikipedia:Documentary film|documentary]] format? I mean, it used to be Strong Bad answering the emailer's question, then showing an example of him doing it/seeing it/showing it. But now, it's Strong Bad saying he often does a certain thing, and then they'll switch to "[[Wikipedia:Stock footage|stock footage]]" of him doing that thing. More often than not, he narrates the clip. Like in "secret identity" itself, with Strong Bad describing all his alter-ego's, and then suddenly switching to him as that ego in the past. The clips must be in the past because the Tip Tappers one is during the night, and Strong Bad wouldn't take two days to answer an email).

Either that, or he'll say he's going to do something, and then the "directors" switch to other people talking about what he did without showing him doing it. Even though you don't see him doing it, it no doubt happened, due to the character's reaction. This proves the declaration of intent to exercise a certain action, the action-doing itself, and reaction of the other characters are all "filmed". Whether they're edited out or not varies.

Sometimes, Strong Bad (or, in this case, Bubs) will say he's going to do something, then they skip the doing, and go straight to the reaction. Like in [[virus]]. Declaration: Bubs says he's going to shotgun the [[Compy 386|Compy]]; Reaction: Strong Bad runs off crying and Homestar hops on one leg. The action is skipped. Other times, the declaration is stated, completed, and then reacted to. In [[modeling]], Strong Bad says he's going to get Pom Pom take pictures of him, then he does this, and him and Strong Sad talk about it at the end. Other times, Strong Bad will say he'll do something, then he'll do it, and finish the email without showing the reaction. In [[ghosts]], Strong Bad says he'll sweep [[Strongbadia|Strong Badia]] for paranormal activity with The Cheat, and he does, but then he ends the email ends without anyone reacting to it.

I'm sorry that I've taken up so much space with those last two paragraphs, and I just wrote those parts to prove that every action and reaction in these emails are filmed, but some parts are edited out. Okay, so: we got stock footage, editing, talking only to the camera numerous times instead of to someone else or writing the response, plus the fact that he's answering real life fan mail...even though you guys probably won't believe b/w agree with me, but I think these emails have long surpassed [[Fourth Wall Breaks|fourth wall breakings]], and are now full-fledged mockumentaries.

<nowiki>*</nowiki>prepares for the annoying barage of disagreements or personal insults or threats on my life coming from the same condescendingly ubiquitous group of users who get into every moderately imporatant argument on toon pages that seems to follow me like the tail of a snake on that [[Wikipedia:Snake (video game)|cell phone game]]* --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:I disagree you <nowiki>*** **** $&$$*@!!! ***** chinese dentist! I'ma kill</nowiki> — err, gotta be firm. Well, I'm kinda not sure I see what your point is. If most emails fall under one of those few categories, then most, if not all, well not all, but a lot, of emails are like that, so it kinda hasn't "changed", but what do you expect? Him to say he did something, then the email ends? It's kinda the only way to do things, unless you want every email to be like [[some kinda robot]]. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::TBC are known to like ''Arrested Development'', which cuts to different scenes and/or back in time in documentary style. Maybe they like that type of format and are either intentionally using it or subconsciously being influenced by it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Ooh, Chinese dentist! That's the best one yet. Anyway, yes, ''Arrested Development''. Great show. That's kinda what subconsciously inspired me to make this argument. Same style. To the teeth. Metaphorical teeth, that is. And It's dot com, it shouldn't be noted that I originally planned to say that all the people in that group of condescendingly ubiquitous sooth-sayers and life-threateners include you personally in pretty much every single capacity I was thinking of! I would've said "like that guy [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]", but I was afraid you or someone like you would go all "admin" on me and get mad at me and talk at me in that way that shows they're trying to be polite and not sound like you've broken one of the seven deadly sins (by using words like "could you please" or "next time, try to") but fail miserably. Not that admins fail miserably at anything, no, of course not...they're the g-greatest people in the world! Hehe...heh...*runs off screaming* *as I'm saying this next part my voice is gradually fading away into the distance as I run* To answer Salty's accusations with a lack of question but with an implied inquisitive tone as to my desire that every email should be like [[some kinda robot|SKR]], the answer is no! I wasn't saying I didn't like that really old style where he doesn't really do anything, or even say he'll do anything for that matter. I was just trying to prove that all parts of the email-making process are filmed by breaking the parts into categories such as declaration action and reaction, then going on to prove that they're not all shown, just to prove that these emails are (in the Homestar Runniverse) edited, thus making them more like documentaries. Wow, my voice has gone on for a really long time of fading away without disappearing into silence. Anyway, the meaning of life is ''not'' forty-two, it's actually... *voice fades away* --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 03:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== Not My E-Mail, Yo ==

The Chaps didn't use my e-mail. That's just the way life goes, I guess. Has anyone noticed that Strong Bad has never answered an e-mail from a wiki user? Whatever, I guess I should watch this one. Kinda pointless, but hey, I don't have much life beyond Homestar. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:Actually, they have. [[montage]] was sent in by a wiki user. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
There's been more than that. There was [[animal]] (sent by kerrek slaya) and.... that's it. It makes me wonder, if there's so many wiki users, how could only two have there email picked, out of all the percentage of Homestar Runner fans, that comes out to about 1.4% of emails checked sent by wiki users. There's gotta be more than 1% of fans being wiki fans, right? {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::It wouldn't shock me in the least if that statistic was ''exactly'' right... if not on the generous side. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Well... actually. If you look at things from a different perspective, 1.4% might not be so bad after all: considering the number of H*R fans that contribute to this wiki (out of ~5,000 registered users, i'd say maybe 1,000 if not less are or have been active and/or legitimate). Let's be generous and say we have 4,000 registered users. I don't know the actual statistics, but I think i read somewhere that TBC has ~1,000,000 hits a month. So i'll be conservative and estimate that there are 500,000 H*R fans in existence. That's roughly 0.8% of the fan population that contributes to the wiki. Less conservative estimates (say 2,500 contributors and 750,000 fans) yield smaller numbers (in this case 0.3333%). So, by comparison, one could argue that the proportions of accepted wikian emails vs. general fan populations is bigger, or something. I should be doing my stats HW instead of this. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:05, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

=="Sign-in Book" Fun Facts==

What about moving all the "Guestbook Fun Facts", (there's over a dozen, from the references of the names, to who's behind the names) into one "Special Fun Fact" subheading? Much like we did with [[boring (really)#Fun Facts|Strong Bad's List Of 3 Letter Words]]? Perhaps in a table or something? It's kind of hard to figure out just who's who, and why, when the fun facts are all around everwhere. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:11, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'd agree to that. I think it'd look neat. Although when I first saw this edit summary, I was thinkin' "Why the crap is he writing about [[HRWiki:Guestbooks|guestbooks]] ''here''?" --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::I keep getting edit conflicted, so I'll just leave him to it and mention it here. It somehow needs to mention "Why The Bed", and have a Wikipedia link somewhere there for the person referenced. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:21, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::: I got the main layout finished, anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:27, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::The wiki-link for "Mr. Tesmacher" doesn't explain it at all, as far as I can tell the article doesn't have "tesmacher" in it at all. Anybody know anything about Tesmacher to get a better link or something? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:41, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::: Eh, it made sense when there was a separate fact explaining it, which is the only case where I really think that even might be necessary without a better link. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:42, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Skull Barette ==

The skull-and-bone barette that Cara Carabowditbowdit wears is really ringing a bell for me, but I can't quite place it. It's possible that I'm thinking of Elmyra, from Tiny Toon Adventures, who wore a bow in her hair with a skull in the middle, but I still feel like there's someone more directly similar. Some sort of comic strip or comic book character? Anyone? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 14:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:Nope, sorry I'm no help with that one. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::Elmyra's hair decoration was pretty different from Cara's. I agree that the skull barette feels like a reference but I'm not sure to what. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 22:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Real-world References ==

The items listed in Bub's guestbook are real people and belong in real world references... just as they do in every single other toon. Just because other H*R character take those name as their pseudonym doesn't negate their existence as a real world reference. Please stop removing that section! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:They were listed as references in the special section. There's no reason to split them up like that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:14, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::I think that this is improper and out of line with every other toon. There is no good reason to seperate those real-world references from the others for the reasons stated above. I kindly ask that you revert your edit on this one. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:20, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm fine with it being a special case. (We have other special cases in [[50 emails]], [[boring (really)]], and [[bottom 10]], just to name a few.) If it was just one or two lines, it wouldn't be so bad, but in this case we shouldn't present such lengthy information separately. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Hi guys! I was disconnected for a little bit so I missed all the fun. The reason I made the reorganization was as a result of the different edits surrounding this theme. Having this information spread out like this seemed to me a little haphazard and redundant. So I opted to combine all this information into one subsection for clarity. (I originally had [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] in mind as a framework, but now that I see it, it's a different kind of organization; Dot com's examples are better.) Nevertheless, this structure seemed more logical and reasonable than what had been in place. So I think it is reason enough to break with our typical structure and do things a little differently :) Now, to DO that stats hw i've been griping about for days. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:39, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== floppy disk stuff ==

''This thread has been moved to [[Talk:Strong Bad Email#Floppy_Disk_Container|Talk:Strong Bad Email → Floppy Disk Container]] due to its relevance to each of the emails, not just this one.''

== Real Genius! ==

Puppet Homestar sings a song from Real Genius in [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2472939609435805830&q=Homestar this] video from a convention. Coincedence? I think not! Except, I don't know where to put this or even whether it should be put somewhere at all. --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 16:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:Good find, but I don't see what the relevance is to this toon. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 22:14, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::"Homestar's I ♥ Toxic Waste shirt is a reference to the movie Real Genius." Maybe TBC are fans or something. --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 22:23, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Type Writer Room ==

The room where Strong Bad as Cara Caraboutitboutit(sp?) is typing his article, is very similar to the room in The Interview where he is also typing.

:Yes, it is. That's why [[Smoky Office]] was added to the "Places" section of the page. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Another goof ==

Did anyone else notice that there is a grammatical error on the cover of "Scarfgirl" magazine? It should be "''Are'' politics bad?" not "''Is'' politics bad?". I'm not sure if this is worth noting, so I thought I'd mention it here instead and let all of you regulars decide. (originally posted by anonymous poster)
:"Politics" is a singular noun, so "politics is ..."/"Is politics ...?" is the correct verb tense usage. Definition 1 from the American Heritage Dictionary (quoted from dictionary.com):
:'''''(used with a sing. verb)''' The art or science of government or governing, especially the governing of a political entity, such as a nation, and the administration and control of its internal and external affairs.''
:''Political science.''
:[[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 21:05, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, also its a teen magazine of some sort so the grammatical error are prolly intentional
:Look at the definition I posted, it's NOT a grammatical error. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 03:25, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk:secret identity

2006-01-26T21:11:08Z

Spell4yr: /* Another goof */ making sure it's clear it's not my question

==Past our bedtimes==
It has finally happened! I discovered and watched this Strong Bad email before the Wiki knew that it existed. Ah, sweet success.[[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 10:31, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:You mean not counting the fact that I started the toon page several minutes before you posted anything? ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:35, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, it let me create the page and found no conflicts when I did. I guess you just started editing it before me :-) [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 10:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, I realize I'm tooting my own horn here, but I'm [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=secret_identity&action=history&limit=2&offset=20060125102814 pretty sure] my edit was before yours. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Ugh! you can do [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=secret_identity&action=history&limit=2&offset=20060125102814 that]!? Oh and hi Triumvir! Welcome to the wiki! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:...And how exactly is that an accomplishment?
[[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 21:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Dunno where to put it, but ==

The .wad file extension is most famous for its use on data files for Doom. -- Vorn

== simpsons? ==

Isn't "worst mayo party ever" a reference to the simpsons? You know, Comic Book Guy: Worst ____ Ever!" --[[User:TheGreatLogini|TheGreatLogini]] 12:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:That's currently in dispute on the STUFF page for this toon. [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 15:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== brokeback Laramie? ==

did anyone else think about brokeback mountain when the cowboy picture came up or is there another cowboy reference that I might be missing. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:I did, but I still don't think it's a reference. More likely, Laramie is a popular setting for westerns... come to think of it, I think I'll add that. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 19:01, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Isn't Laramie a brand of cigarettes on the Simpsons, with a wild west theme (sort of like Marlboro)?
:I totally thought the same thing. Don't know if it's worth referencing, but then with all the press the movie's gotten...--Impulse2, who needs to register

Actually, the town of Laramie is sort of famous for a hate crime which killed a gay man. There is a play about it entitled The Laramie Project.--[[User:Lucyinthesky|Lucyinthesky]] 22:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think two possible Simpsons references in one toon is too coincidental to be a coincedence. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:54, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::The reason that the Simpsons chose "Laramie" as the popular cigarette brand is to parody [[Wikipedia:Marlboro (cigarette)|Marlboro cigarettes]], which are also cowboy-themed. Point is, Laramie's cowboy connotations came before the Simpsons. In fact, Wikipedia has an article on the Jimmy Stewart western [[Wikipedia:The Man from Laramie|The Man from Laramie]]. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 05:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Nintendogs? ==

Is the video game "where you pretend to be a dog" Nintendogs? Or possibly Animal Crossing? Neither of those really counts since you're not actually pretending to ''be'' a dog or frog. There was another one, a non-DS one, where you actually pretend to be a dog, but I forget its name off the top of my head. - [User:Octan|Octan] Jan 25 2005, 8:38AM EST
:A Dog's Life, for the PS2. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} [[Wikipedia:Leet|13:37]], 25 January 2006 (UTC)

:Hm...aren't you a frog in Frogger?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 23:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

::I say ''Frogger'' and ''Nintendogs.'' Or perhaps ''Dog's Life'' for PS2... --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:36, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== a lot of work for one small comment ==

When SB talks about seeing the Poopsmith and himself together, I was thinking that TBC put there just to gives us work to do. It would take a bit of work, but does anyone find it worth it to list all of the times that SB and TPS have appeared in the same frame...or is that just too much work which will just amount to one small comment such as, "depsite trying to claim that he has never been seen with the poopsmith, they appeared together in ______, _____, and ______." {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:40, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Three words: [[big white face]]. And don't forget [[couch patch]]. And [[rock opera]]. And [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. And [[Parsnips-a-Plenty]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::I know, there are a bunch, but is it worth trying to find them all? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Doubt it. But who knows what bored people with no lives will do. :P - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Especially bored wiki people. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:56, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::And [[labor day]]... {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 14:00, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Like in [[The Geddup Noise]], I made [[User:Stux/Email_CheckList_Template|this]] to help make tedious searches like this one. The only thing it doesn't have is regular toons. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:32, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::You know, I remeber seeing that but I couldn't find it. SB and TPS have also appeared in several Halloween toons together. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::By the way, Parsnips-a-Plenty doesn't really count because it's an Old Timey Era with different characters. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:04, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Don't forget [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] {{User:Sbmaniac}}

== Superman reference ==

Ms Fessmocker (sp?) is a reference to the female henchman(woman?) of Lex Luthor in the first Superman movie. Does this mean that the cheat is female? Maybe... probably not. It does kind of make sense that the cheat would pick a henchman of a villian as a fake name.

Would make even more sense if this was signed...--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== The Poopsmith and I? ==

Shouldn't that be "The Poopsmith and me?" -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 14:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
: Nope. The correct pronoun to use is 'I'. --[[User:Musachan|Musachan]] 15:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)Musachan
::Hmmmm ... but, wouldn't you say "Have you ever seen us together"? You + me = us. You + I = we. -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 15:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::It should be "me", not "I". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Yes. Because it is so drilled in everyone's head that you must always say "{someone} and I" (instead of "me and {someone}") in the subject of a sentence, people often don't realize that they should instead say "{someone} and me" instead in the predicate. The usage of I/me is exactly the same as if you were only speaking of yourself, and I/me should always be written last. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
My English teacher taught me to take out the extra phrase (in this case, "The Poopsmith") and see how the sentence should be without it. It would be "Have you ever seen me in...", so, it would be me. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:19, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:"(person) and me" is a terrible Americanization. Technically it '''should''' say "..and I", or better still in my eyes, the reflective "and myself". Eitherway it's an Americanization only. [[User:62.137.135.77|62.137.135.77]] 05:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:: Say to yourself: "Have you ever seen I with The Poopsmith?" Does that sound fluid at all? "Me" is the only word that fits there. The structure of the sentence (other than the prepositional phrase) does not change by adding "The Poopsmith" to "I/me". "The Poopsmith and me" is the only correct option. What's more, the reflexive is ''only'' appropriate when the subject and object are the same entity. See also: [[Wikipedia:Hypercorrection|Hypercorrection]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::You beat me to it! I was about to say that. But to reiterate anyway: "myself" is only to be used as a grammatical particle in a sentence (negating quotes of course, gotta cover all the bases) if and only if (iff for those math-types like me) "I" is the subject of the sentence. Since the subject is "You", then "myself" should never appear in the sentence. [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 16:06, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
== Real Genius ==

Could "I heart Toxic Waste" be a reference to the T-shirt Chris Knight wears in the eighties movie Real Genius?

Yeah that plus the pink bunny slippers and bath robe - he looked sort of like a cross between Chris Knight and that professor at the end, when they're both wearing the slippers.

== These edit conflicts are REALLY cheesing me off! ==

I just want to state, for the record, that I'm still very highly annoyed by receiving Edit Conflict after Edit Conflict when other people's edits have nothing to do with mine. (Someone makes a change in the transcript while I'm editing Inside References: Edit conflict.) This wasn't a problem before. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:15, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
: Actually, it used to be a problem, then it was "fixed" (but extremely glitchy; ie. One edit would auto-revert the previous edit in many cases), and then the "fix" was fixed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:20, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:You're not kidding. ._. I went through, like, nine edit conflicts to change "great" to "Greek" and remove that extra bit about Bubs. This has not been a good day so far, but that's too off topic. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Yeah, ironically the same complaint has been posted [[Talk:Main_Page#holy_edit_conflicts_batman.21|here]]. I posted a similar reply to Jay's except I didn't know if the fix had been [[Wikipedia:Spaying and neutering|fixed]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:37, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== SB's facial hair ==

Where was it that we saw Strong Bad working on growing a moustache and all he could manage was one tiny hair? Wherever that was, it seems to contradict his ability to grow stubble as Vance Mudgeman. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 19:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Maybe he can only grow the hair when he's taking on his alternate persona ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:31, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Or it could be fake. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::By the way, the pathetic tiny hair was seen in [[theme park]]. And who said he ''really'' takes the identity of Vance Mudgeman? He could be messing about with us. Remember [[highschool]]? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, it could be fake, but this email seems more, I dunno, ''real'' than just a made-up Strong Bad fantasy (which [[highschool]] certainly was). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I think that you could get a real big ice cream headache if you try to just reality from fiction in a toon where only one character resembles a human, most don't have arms (debatedly), and the narrator SB, has the maturity of some of the adolescents that I see on those judge shows. So, lets me understand this...He is a charachter on a website that thinks he's real, but also knows that he is performing and can actively let us in on events that he made up and his dreams which happened to be conveniently downloaded onto tangerine dreams for us to view. In this case, ignorance is bliss. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:22, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

==Mr. Chamberlain = Pom Pom? ==
Given Pom Pom's attraction to and luck with the ladies, and Wilt Chamberlain's [[Wikipedia:Wilt_Chamberlain#.2220.2C000_women.22_claim|legendary prowess]], is it possible that Mr. Chamberlain would be Pom Pom's pseudo-name? -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 19:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
: I was thinking Strong Mad, actually. But either way, what does "COMPED" mean? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Bubs didn't charge Mr. Chamberlain, the room was [[Wikipedia:Comp|COMP]]-limentary. -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 19:48, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
: Not to mention that only Pom Pom would be likely to get the Posh suite. That leaves only Mr. Allen Poe, who I think is Strong Sad. He had a pic of him for his blog once, I think. He'd also be into that kind of story, and would definitely require a double bed. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Very good points. I was actually only thinking of Strong Mad because of his tendency to wear costumes related to sports stars (which, admittedly, Pom Pom did once too.) And I recalled the name being mentioned on the site once before, though it actually turned out to be in [[50K Racewalker]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::'''EDC:''' Didn't Pom pom dess up as [[Kobe]] Bryant once? Ooo! I guessed the link right! What team did chamberlain play for? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:55, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::'''EDCx2:''' Oh and both played for the [[Wikipedia:Wilt_Chamberlain#Los_Angeles_Lakers|Lakers]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:58, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm not big on sports. You're lucky that I correctly realized that he was a basketball player. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== House of Portraits ==

Isn't the trailer SB is in for the "Daddy" secret identity the same one as in [[portrait]]?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 20:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yes it is. This has been mentioned. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Daemon ==

The word "daemon" can be correctly pronounced "DEE-mon" or "DAY-mon". See [http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/D/daemon.html here] for more info. [[User:ClamIAm|ClamIAm]] 20:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks for the link - I went ahead and pulled the pronunciation note from the transcript. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Easter Eggs ==

Is it just me, or was the easter egg at the end with strong sad added some time after the tune was origionally put up? I remember looking for one at the end and not finding one, and then checking the wiki and not seeing it listed. [[User:Snowboardpunk|Snowboardpunk]]

:Did you actually check, as in, with the "tab" key? If not, then you could have easily missed any egg. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::But to answer your question, yes, it was added later. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Yeah when I saw it earlier this morning I was surprised not to see an egg either. Now I have to go back and watch it again! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:03, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Whaddaya Know, Reference-Man? ==

*''[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]]'' is playing on the TV in the Mudgeman home.

I pulled this item from Inside References because I listened several times to the Mudgeman scene, and I could not hear anything that sounded like Homsar's show. Figured I'd post it here in Talk, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Actually it sounds like the chords from Caleb Rentpayer, but I can't tell for sure. --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 23:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

::I think it's definitely Haddi-Man on the TV. Some proof? Just as Strong Bad says "Jeffery Beffery", you can here that "doo-doo-DOO-doo" tune, but the words are hard to make out. While he's saying "Mudgeman", you can clearly here the words "make some new". --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 00:43, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::But there's also quite a bit of other noise in the background that wasn't there in [[for kids]] - whether that's part of the TV show or coming from elsewhere in the trailer, I don't know. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I clearly hear the line "we'll make some new friends..." (everything else is obscured by Strong Bad's voice). [[User:Jonnny|Jonnny]] 05:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::I hear it too. Though it might be coming from the other room, where the kids are. (That wouldn't explain what Strong Bad's watching and why we can't hear it though.) - [User:Octan|Octan] Jan 26 2006, 9:45PM EST
:: Seriously, it IS Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man. You just need better headphones. I'm putting it back.

== My Name Bubs ==

I believe the Bubs' nametag is a reference to his line ''My name cornbread'' in the Decemberween Pageant. Anyone else agree?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 00:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:Me, I thought of "My name Bubs. This is my regulah voice" from [[Sample of Style]], which was made into a Quote of the Week. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. It could be that too. They were both made Quote of The Week.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 00:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
I thought of "mine name cornbread" but I knew he said something similar somewheres. I think it could be a reference, maybe. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think it could be a little Bubs idiosyncronicity by now. (Spelling help, anyone?) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Girl on magazine ==
[[Image:Scarfgirl.PNG|thumb|right|who am I?]][[Image:baby lady real.jpg|thumb|Jackie Chapman]]
Who could be the girl on the woman's magazine?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 00:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:It of course could be [[Missy Palmer]], but I'm leaning more towards [[Jackie Chapman]], simply because it looks a bit more like her (from what we can see). Of course, it could be someone we don't know. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 00:24, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well guys, judge for [[:Image:Scarfgirl.PNG|yourselves]]: --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Um. I can't tell either. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::What I don't get is why somebody uploaded another Scarf after I already had one. Anyway, I think it looks a lot like Jackie Chapman after comparing with this: (picture at bottom right) {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:32, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agee with Mibluvr, it's probably a third person. When it comes to making a descision about this picture, VolatileChemical thinks third person is the best way to go. That's a joke, by the way. And either hyperlink that picture, or scale it down. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 03:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::'''Edit conflict'''Oh I guess someone already uploaded a version. And she even has a [[Scarfgirl|page of her own]] too! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:35, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Turns out yours was uploaded first, I was getting ready to tag mine for deletion before i got the conflict. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:36, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
{{clear}}

== PoopBad Image ==

I've uploaded the image of poopbad to here: [http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8550/poopbad8bb.png] can someone put it on the site?
:This is [[HRFWiki:Main Page|Fanstuff]]. Please don't upload it onto the Knowledge Base. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::Uh...fraid not. It's the image that appears as an easter egg in the actual email. Click on "so apparently I'm not The Poopsmith" as they're being spoken. Oh, and I'll try to find somewhere to put it. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Oops, I guess I didn't see that Easter egg. My bad. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::It's already on some page somewhere, though, so uploading it is still unnecessary. Check the recent images gallery. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Great. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Sb_and_poopsmith.PNG It already exists]. ''Now'' you tell me, after I've already uploaded it. Oh, well. I'll just put it at [[Minor Character Variations]], see how that works out. I'll call this monstrosity Poopbad, because that's the only name I've heard of so far. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:11, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Now the question is: Which entry do we get rid of: the one at [[Other Character Variations]] or the one at [[Strong Bad Other Costumes]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::::::Hey! DorianGray! I was just thinking about how you're pleasantly ubiquitous. I'd say the Strong Bad Other Costumes one. It's not a costume, it's a hypothetical amalgamation. By this logi , could just as easily be called a Poopsmith costume. Plus, Poopbad is as tall as TPS, which means he could be in a costume that size, but SB couldn't have a costume that height unless that entire head is a very realistic mask. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 03:29, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with you wholeheartedly, actually. Plus I prefer the Variations pic, coz it has no extra stuff in the background. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Lodgings? ==

Has no one else noticed that Bub's is running a hotel with no rooms?
There is a chance they are off screen but this is shattered by the fact Homestar appears from behind the stand, could the rooms be hidden in the supposed Basment? or does Bub's make them sleep on the ground behind the stand? :P
:Probably the basement. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== I ♥ Flint ==

Is it just me, or are these emails verging on [[Wikipedia:Documentary film|documentary]] format? I mean, it used to be Strong Bad answering the emailer's question, then showing an example of him doing it/seeing it/showing it. But now, it's Strong Bad saying he often does a certain thing, and then they'll switch to "[[Wikipedia:Stock footage|stock footage]]" of him doing that thing. More often than not, he narrates the clip. Like in "secret identity" itself, with Strong Bad describing all his alter-ego's, and then suddenly switching to him as that ego in the past. The clips must be in the past because the Tip Tappers one is during the night, and Strong Bad wouldn't take two days to answer an email).

Either that, or he'll say he's going to do something, and then the "directors" switch to other people talking about what he did without showing him doing it. Even though you don't see him doing it, it no doubt happened, due to the character's reaction. This proves the declaration of intent to exercise a certain action, the action-doing itself, and reaction of the other characters are all "filmed". Whether they're edited out or not varies.

Sometimes, Strong Bad (or, in this case, Bubs) will say he's going to do something, then they skip the doing, and go straight to the reaction. Like in [[virus]]. Declaration: Bubs says he's going to shotgun the [[Compy 386|Compy]]; Reaction: Strong Bad runs off crying and Homestar hops on one leg. The action is skipped. Other times, the declaration is stated, completed, and then reacted to. In [[modeling]], Strong Bad says he's going to get Pom Pom take pictures of him, then he does this, and him and Strong Sad talk about it at the end. Other times, Strong Bad will say he'll do something, then he'll do it, and finish the email without showing the reaction. In [[ghosts]], Strong Bad says he'll sweep [[Strongbadia|Strong Badia]] for paranormal activity with The Cheat, and he does, but then he ends the email ends without anyone reacting to it.

I'm sorry that I've taken up so much space with those last two paragraphs, and I just wrote those parts to prove that every action and reaction in these emails are filmed, but some parts are edited out. Okay, so: we got stock footage, editing, talking only to the camera numerous times instead of to someone else or writing the response, plus the fact that he's answering real life fan mail...even though you guys probably won't believe b/w agree with me, but I think these emails have long surpassed [[Fourth Wall Breaks|fourth wall breakings]], and are now full-fledged mockumentaries.

<nowiki>*</nowiki>prepares for the annoying barage of disagreements or personal insults or threats on my life coming from the same condescendingly ubiquitous group of users who get into every moderately imporatant argument on toon pages that seems to follow me like the tail of a snake on that [[Wikipedia:Snake (video game)|cell phone game]]* --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:I disagree you <nowiki>*** **** $&$$*@!!! ***** chinese dentist! I'ma kill</nowiki> — err, gotta be firm. Well, I'm kinda not sure I see what your point is. If most emails fall under one of those few categories, then most, if not all, well not all, but a lot, of emails are like that, so it kinda hasn't "changed", but what do you expect? Him to say he did something, then the email ends? It's kinda the only way to do things, unless you want every email to be like [[some kinda robot]]. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::TBC are known to like ''Arrested Development'', which cuts to different scenes and/or back in time in documentary style. Maybe they like that type of format and are either intentionally using it or subconsciously being influenced by it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Not My E-Mail, Yo ==

The Chaps didn't use my e-mail. That's just the way life goes, I guess. Has anyone noticed that Strong Bad has never answered an e-mail from a wiki user? Whatever, I guess I should watch this one. Kinda pointless, but hey, I don't have much life beyond Homestar. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:Actually, they have. [[montage]] was sent in by a wiki user. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
There's been more than that. There was [[animal]] (sent by kerrek slaya) and.... that's it. It makes me wonder, if there's so many wiki users, how could only two have there email picked, out of all the percentage of Homestar Runner fans, that comes out to about 1.4% of emails checked sent by wiki users. There's gotta be more than 1% of fans being wiki fans, right? {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::It wouldn't shock me in the least if that statistic was ''exactly'' right... if not on the generous side. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Well... actually. If you look at things from a different perspective, 1.4% might not be so bad after all: considering the number of H*R fans that contribute to this wiki (out of ~5,000 registered users, i'd say maybe 1,000 if not less are or have been active and/or legitimate). Let's be generous and say we have 4,000 registered users. I don't know the actual statistics, but I think i read somewhere that TBC has ~1,000,000 hits a month. So i'll be conservative and estimate that there are 500,000 H*R fans in existence. That's roughly 0.8% of the fan population that contributes to the wiki. Less conservative estimates (say 2,500 contributors and 750,000 fans) yield smaller numbers (in this case 0.3333%). So, by comparison, one could argue that the proportions of accepted wikian emails vs. general fan populations is bigger, or something. I should be doing my stats HW instead of this. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:05, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

=="Sign-in Book" Fun Facts==

What about moving all the "Guestbook Fun Facts", (there's over a dozen, from the references of the names, to who's behind the names) into one "Special Fun Fact" subheading? Much like we did with [[boring (really)#Fun Facts|Strong Bad's List Of 3 Letter Words]]? Perhaps in a table or something? It's kind of hard to figure out just who's who, and why, when the fun facts are all around everwhere. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:11, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'd agree to that. I think it'd look neat. Although when I first saw this edit summary, I was thinkin' "Why the crap is he writing about [[HRWiki:Guestbooks|guestbooks]] ''here''?" --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::I keep getting edit conflicted, so I'll just leave him to it and mention it here. It somehow needs to mention "Why The Bed", and have a Wikipedia link somewhere there for the person referenced. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:21, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::: I got the main layout finished, anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:27, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::The wiki-link for "Mr. Tesmacher" doesn't explain it at all, as far as I can tell the article doesn't have "tesmacher" in it at all. Anybody know anything about Tesmacher to get a better link or something? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:41, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::: Eh, it made sense when there was a separate fact explaining it, which is the only case where I really think that even might be necessary without a better link. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:42, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Skull Barette ==

The skull-and-bone barette that Cara Carabowditbowdit wears is really ringing a bell for me, but I can't quite place it. It's possible that I'm thinking of Elmyra, from Tiny Toon Adventures, who wore a bow in her hair with a skull in the middle, but I still feel like there's someone more directly similar. Some sort of comic strip or comic book character? Anyone? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 14:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Real-world References ==

The items listed in Bub's guestbook are real people and belong in real world references... just as they do in every single other toon. Just because other H*R character take those name as their pseudonym doesn't negate their existence as a real world reference. Please stop removing that section! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:They were listed as references in the special section. There's no reason to split them up like that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:14, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::I think that this is improper and out of line with every other toon. There is no good reason to seperate those real-world references from the others for the reasons stated above. I kindly ask that you revert your edit on this one. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:20, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm fine with it being a special case. (We have other special cases in [[50 emails]], [[boring (really)]], and [[bottom 10]], just to name a few.) If it was just one or two lines, it wouldn't be so bad, but in this case we shouldn't present such lengthy information separately. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Hi guys! I was disconnected for a little bit so I missed all the fun. The reason I made the reorganization was as a result of the different edits surrounding this theme. Having this information spread out like this seemed to me a little haphazard and redundant. So I opted to combine all this information into one subsection for clarity. (I originally had [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] in mind as a framework, but now that I see it, it's a different kind of organization; Dot com's examples are better.) Nevertheless, this structure seemed more logical and reasonable than what had been in place. So I think it is reason enough to break with our typical structure and do things a little differently :) Now, to DO that stats hw i've been griping about for days. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:39, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== floppy disk stuff ==

''This thread has been moved to [[Talk:Strong Bad Email#Floppy_Disk_Container|Talk:Strong Bad Email → Floppy Disk Container]] due to its relevance to each of the emails, not just this one.''

== Real Genius! ==

Puppet Homestar sings a song from Real Genius in [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2472939609435805830&q=Homestar this] video from a convention. Coincedence? I think not! Except, I don't know where to put this or even whether it should be put somewhere at all. --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 16:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Type Writer Room ==

The room where Strong Bad as Cara Caraboutitboutit(sp?) is typing his article, is very similar to the room in The Interview where he is also typing.

:Yes, it is. That's why [[Smoky Office]] was added to the "Places" section of the page. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Another goof ==

Did anyone else notice that there is a grammatical error on the cover of "Scarfgirl" magazine? It should be "''Are'' politics bad?" not "''Is'' politics bad?". I'm not sure if this is worth noting, so I thought I'd mention it here instead and let all of you regulars decide. (originally posted by anonymous poster)
:"Politics" is a singular noun, so "politics is ..."/"Is politics ...?" is the correct verb tense usage. Definition 1 from the American Heritage Dictionary (quoted from dictionary.com):
:'''''(used with a sing. verb)''' The art or science of government or governing, especially the governing of a political entity, such as a nation, and the administration and control of its internal and external affairs.''
:''Political science.''
:[[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 21:05, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk:secret identity

2006-01-26T21:09:03Z

Spell4yr: /* Another goof */ adding definition

==Past our bedtimes==
It has finally happened! I discovered and watched this Strong Bad email before the Wiki knew that it existed. Ah, sweet success.[[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 10:31, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:You mean not counting the fact that I started the toon page several minutes before you posted anything? ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 10:35, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, it let me create the page and found no conflicts when I did. I guess you just started editing it before me :-) [[User:Triumvir|Triumvir]] 10:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, I realize I'm tooting my own horn here, but I'm [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=secret_identity&action=history&limit=2&offset=20060125102814 pretty sure] my edit was before yours. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Ugh! you can do [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=secret_identity&action=history&limit=2&offset=20060125102814 that]!? Oh and hi Triumvir! Welcome to the wiki! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:...And how exactly is that an accomplishment?
[[User:Agentjs03|Agentjs03]] 21:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Dunno where to put it, but ==

The .wad file extension is most famous for its use on data files for Doom. -- Vorn

== simpsons? ==

Isn't "worst mayo party ever" a reference to the simpsons? You know, Comic Book Guy: Worst ____ Ever!" --[[User:TheGreatLogini|TheGreatLogini]] 12:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:That's currently in dispute on the STUFF page for this toon. [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 15:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== brokeback Laramie? ==

did anyone else think about brokeback mountain when the cowboy picture came up or is there another cowboy reference that I might be missing. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:I did, but I still don't think it's a reference. More likely, Laramie is a popular setting for westerns... come to think of it, I think I'll add that. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 19:01, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Isn't Laramie a brand of cigarettes on the Simpsons, with a wild west theme (sort of like Marlboro)?
:I totally thought the same thing. Don't know if it's worth referencing, but then with all the press the movie's gotten...--Impulse2, who needs to register

Actually, the town of Laramie is sort of famous for a hate crime which killed a gay man. There is a play about it entitled The Laramie Project.--[[User:Lucyinthesky|Lucyinthesky]] 22:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think two possible Simpsons references in one toon is too coincidental to be a coincedence. {{User:Salty/sig}} 23:54, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::The reason that the Simpsons chose "Laramie" as the popular cigarette brand is to parody [[Wikipedia:Marlboro (cigarette)|Marlboro cigarettes]], which are also cowboy-themed. Point is, Laramie's cowboy connotations came before the Simpsons. In fact, Wikipedia has an article on the Jimmy Stewart western [[Wikipedia:The Man from Laramie|The Man from Laramie]]. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 05:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Nintendogs? ==

Is the video game "where you pretend to be a dog" Nintendogs? Or possibly Animal Crossing? Neither of those really counts since you're not actually pretending to ''be'' a dog or frog. There was another one, a non-DS one, where you actually pretend to be a dog, but I forget its name off the top of my head. - [User:Octan|Octan] Jan 25 2005, 8:38AM EST
:A Dog's Life, for the PS2. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} [[Wikipedia:Leet|13:37]], 25 January 2006 (UTC)

:Hm...aren't you a frog in Frogger?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 23:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

::I say ''Frogger'' and ''Nintendogs.'' Or perhaps ''Dog's Life'' for PS2... --[[User:MrsCommanderson|MrsCommanderson]] 00:36, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== a lot of work for one small comment ==

When SB talks about seeing the Poopsmith and himself together, I was thinking that TBC put there just to gives us work to do. It would take a bit of work, but does anyone find it worth it to list all of the times that SB and TPS have appeared in the same frame...or is that just too much work which will just amount to one small comment such as, "depsite trying to claim that he has never been seen with the poopsmith, they appeared together in ______, _____, and ______." {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:40, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Three words: [[big white face]]. And don't forget [[couch patch]]. And [[rock opera]]. And [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]]. And [[Parsnips-a-Plenty]]. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 13:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::I know, there are a bunch, but is it worth trying to find them all? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Doubt it. But who knows what bored people with no lives will do. :P - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Especially bored wiki people. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 13:56, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::And [[labor day]]... {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 14:00, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Like in [[The Geddup Noise]], I made [[User:Stux/Email_CheckList_Template|this]] to help make tedious searches like this one. The only thing it doesn't have is regular toons. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:32, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::You know, I remeber seeing that but I couldn't find it. SB and TPS have also appeared in several Halloween toons together. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::By the way, Parsnips-a-Plenty doesn't really count because it's an Old Timey Era with different characters. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:04, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Don't forget [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] {{User:Sbmaniac}}

== Superman reference ==

Ms Fessmocker (sp?) is a reference to the female henchman(woman?) of Lex Luthor in the first Superman movie. Does this mean that the cheat is female? Maybe... probably not. It does kind of make sense that the cheat would pick a henchman of a villian as a fake name.

Would make even more sense if this was signed...--[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 15:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== The Poopsmith and I? ==

Shouldn't that be "The Poopsmith and me?" -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 14:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
: Nope. The correct pronoun to use is 'I'. --[[User:Musachan|Musachan]] 15:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)Musachan
::Hmmmm ... but, wouldn't you say "Have you ever seen us together"? You + me = us. You + I = we. -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 15:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::It should be "me", not "I". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Yes. Because it is so drilled in everyone's head that you must always say "{someone} and I" (instead of "me and {someone}") in the subject of a sentence, people often don't realize that they should instead say "{someone} and me" instead in the predicate. The usage of I/me is exactly the same as if you were only speaking of yourself, and I/me should always be written last. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
My English teacher taught me to take out the extra phrase (in this case, "The Poopsmith") and see how the sentence should be without it. It would be "Have you ever seen me in...", so, it would be me. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:19, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:"(person) and me" is a terrible Americanization. Technically it '''should''' say "..and I", or better still in my eyes, the reflective "and myself". Eitherway it's an Americanization only. [[User:62.137.135.77|62.137.135.77]] 05:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:: Say to yourself: "Have you ever seen I with The Poopsmith?" Does that sound fluid at all? "Me" is the only word that fits there. The structure of the sentence (other than the prepositional phrase) does not change by adding "The Poopsmith" to "I/me". "The Poopsmith and me" is the only correct option. What's more, the reflexive is ''only'' appropriate when the subject and object are the same entity. See also: [[Wikipedia:Hypercorrection|Hypercorrection]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::You beat me to it! I was about to say that. But to reiterate anyway: "myself" is only to be used as a grammatical particle in a sentence (negating quotes of course, gotta cover all the bases) if and only if (iff for those math-types like me) "I" is the subject of the sentence. Since the subject is "You", then "myself" should never appear in the sentence. [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]] 16:06, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
== Real Genius ==

Could "I heart Toxic Waste" be a reference to the T-shirt Chris Knight wears in the eighties movie Real Genius?

Yeah that plus the pink bunny slippers and bath robe - he looked sort of like a cross between Chris Knight and that professor at the end, when they're both wearing the slippers.

== These edit conflicts are REALLY cheesing me off! ==

I just want to state, for the record, that I'm still very highly annoyed by receiving Edit Conflict after Edit Conflict when other people's edits have nothing to do with mine. (Someone makes a change in the transcript while I'm editing Inside References: Edit conflict.) This wasn't a problem before. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:15, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
: Actually, it used to be a problem, then it was "fixed" (but extremely glitchy; ie. One edit would auto-revert the previous edit in many cases), and then the "fix" was fixed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:20, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:You're not kidding. ._. I went through, like, nine edit conflicts to change "great" to "Greek" and remove that extra bit about Bubs. This has not been a good day so far, but that's too off topic. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Yeah, ironically the same complaint has been posted [[Talk:Main_Page#holy_edit_conflicts_batman.21|here]]. I posted a similar reply to Jay's except I didn't know if the fix had been [[Wikipedia:Spaying and neutering|fixed]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:37, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== SB's facial hair ==

Where was it that we saw Strong Bad working on growing a moustache and all he could manage was one tiny hair? Wherever that was, it seems to contradict his ability to grow stubble as Vance Mudgeman. [[User:Terlet Brush|Terlet Brush]] 19:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Maybe he can only grow the hair when he's taking on his alternate persona ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:31, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Or it could be fake. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::By the way, the pathetic tiny hair was seen in [[theme park]]. And who said he ''really'' takes the identity of Vance Mudgeman? He could be messing about with us. Remember [[highschool]]? {{User:The Chort/sig}} 19:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yes, it could be fake, but this email seems more, I dunno, ''real'' than just a made-up Strong Bad fantasy (which [[highschool]] certainly was). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I think that you could get a real big ice cream headache if you try to just reality from fiction in a toon where only one character resembles a human, most don't have arms (debatedly), and the narrator SB, has the maturity of some of the adolescents that I see on those judge shows. So, lets me understand this...He is a charachter on a website that thinks he's real, but also knows that he is performing and can actively let us in on events that he made up and his dreams which happened to be conveniently downloaded onto tangerine dreams for us to view. In this case, ignorance is bliss. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:22, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

==Mr. Chamberlain = Pom Pom? ==
Given Pom Pom's attraction to and luck with the ladies, and Wilt Chamberlain's [[Wikipedia:Wilt_Chamberlain#.2220.2C000_women.22_claim|legendary prowess]], is it possible that Mr. Chamberlain would be Pom Pom's pseudo-name? -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 19:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
: I was thinking Strong Mad, actually. But either way, what does "COMPED" mean? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Bubs didn't charge Mr. Chamberlain, the room was [[Wikipedia:Comp|COMP]]-limentary. -- [[User:Mycroft.holmes|Mycroft Holmes]] 19:48, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
: Not to mention that only Pom Pom would be likely to get the Posh suite. That leaves only Mr. Allen Poe, who I think is Strong Sad. He had a pic of him for his blog once, I think. He'd also be into that kind of story, and would definitely require a double bed. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Very good points. I was actually only thinking of Strong Mad because of his tendency to wear costumes related to sports stars (which, admittedly, Pom Pom did once too.) And I recalled the name being mentioned on the site once before, though it actually turned out to be in [[50K Racewalker]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::'''EDC:''' Didn't Pom pom dess up as [[Kobe]] Bryant once? Ooo! I guessed the link right! What team did chamberlain play for? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:55, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::'''EDCx2:''' Oh and both played for the [[Wikipedia:Wilt_Chamberlain#Los_Angeles_Lakers|Lakers]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:58, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm not big on sports. You're lucky that I correctly realized that he was a basketball player. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== House of Portraits ==

Isn't the trailer SB is in for the "Daddy" secret identity the same one as in [[portrait]]?--{{User:Benol/sig}} 20:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yes it is. This has been mentioned. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Daemon ==

The word "daemon" can be correctly pronounced "DEE-mon" or "DAY-mon". See [http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/D/daemon.html here] for more info. [[User:ClamIAm|ClamIAm]] 20:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks for the link - I went ahead and pulled the pronunciation note from the transcript. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Easter Eggs ==

Is it just me, or was the easter egg at the end with strong sad added some time after the tune was origionally put up? I remember looking for one at the end and not finding one, and then checking the wiki and not seeing it listed. [[User:Snowboardpunk|Snowboardpunk]]

:Did you actually check, as in, with the "tab" key? If not, then you could have easily missed any egg. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::But to answer your question, yes, it was added later. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Yeah when I saw it earlier this morning I was surprised not to see an egg either. Now I have to go back and watch it again! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:03, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Whaddaya Know, Reference-Man? ==

*''[[Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man?]]'' is playing on the TV in the Mudgeman home.

I pulled this item from Inside References because I listened several times to the Mudgeman scene, and I could not hear anything that sounded like Homsar's show. Figured I'd post it here in Talk, though. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Actually it sounds like the chords from Caleb Rentpayer, but I can't tell for sure. --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 23:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

::I think it's definitely Haddi-Man on the TV. Some proof? Just as Strong Bad says "Jeffery Beffery", you can here that "doo-doo-DOO-doo" tune, but the words are hard to make out. While he's saying "Mudgeman", you can clearly here the words "make some new". --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 00:43, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::But there's also quite a bit of other noise in the background that wasn't there in [[for kids]] - whether that's part of the TV show or coming from elsewhere in the trailer, I don't know. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I clearly hear the line "we'll make some new friends..." (everything else is obscured by Strong Bad's voice). [[User:Jonnny|Jonnny]] 05:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::I hear it too. Though it might be coming from the other room, where the kids are. (That wouldn't explain what Strong Bad's watching and why we can't hear it though.) - [User:Octan|Octan] Jan 26 2006, 9:45PM EST
:: Seriously, it IS Whaddaya Know, Haddi-Man. You just need better headphones. I'm putting it back.

== My Name Bubs ==

I believe the Bubs' nametag is a reference to his line ''My name cornbread'' in the Decemberween Pageant. Anyone else agree?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 00:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:Me, I thought of "My name Bubs. This is my regulah voice" from [[Sample of Style]], which was made into a Quote of the Week. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. It could be that too. They were both made Quote of The Week.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 00:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
I thought of "mine name cornbread" but I knew he said something similar somewheres. I think it could be a reference, maybe. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think it could be a little Bubs idiosyncronicity by now. (Spelling help, anyone?) --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Girl on magazine ==
[[Image:Scarfgirl.PNG|thumb|right|who am I?]][[Image:baby lady real.jpg|thumb|Jackie Chapman]]
Who could be the girl on the woman's magazine?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 00:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:It of course could be [[Missy Palmer]], but I'm leaning more towards [[Jackie Chapman]], simply because it looks a bit more like her (from what we can see). Of course, it could be someone we don't know. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 00:24, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well guys, judge for [[:Image:Scarfgirl.PNG|yourselves]]: --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Um. I can't tell either. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::What I don't get is why somebody uploaded another Scarf after I already had one. Anyway, I think it looks a lot like Jackie Chapman after comparing with this: (picture at bottom right) {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:32, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agee with Mibluvr, it's probably a third person. When it comes to making a descision about this picture, VolatileChemical thinks third person is the best way to go. That's a joke, by the way. And either hyperlink that picture, or scale it down. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 03:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::'''Edit conflict'''Oh I guess someone already uploaded a version. And she even has a [[Scarfgirl|page of her own]] too! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:35, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Turns out yours was uploaded first, I was getting ready to tag mine for deletion before i got the conflict. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:36, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
{{clear}}

== PoopBad Image ==

I've uploaded the image of poopbad to here: [http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8550/poopbad8bb.png] can someone put it on the site?
:This is [[HRFWiki:Main Page|Fanstuff]]. Please don't upload it onto the Knowledge Base. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::Uh...fraid not. It's the image that appears as an easter egg in the actual email. Click on "so apparently I'm not The Poopsmith" as they're being spoken. Oh, and I'll try to find somewhere to put it. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Oops, I guess I didn't see that Easter egg. My bad. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::It's already on some page somewhere, though, so uploading it is still unnecessary. Check the recent images gallery. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Great. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:Sb_and_poopsmith.PNG It already exists]. ''Now'' you tell me, after I've already uploaded it. Oh, well. I'll just put it at [[Minor Character Variations]], see how that works out. I'll call this monstrosity Poopbad, because that's the only name I've heard of so far. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 02:11, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Now the question is: Which entry do we get rid of: the one at [[Other Character Variations]] or the one at [[Strong Bad Other Costumes]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::::::Hey! DorianGray! I was just thinking about how you're pleasantly ubiquitous. I'd say the Strong Bad Other Costumes one. It's not a costume, it's a hypothetical amalgamation. By this logi , could just as easily be called a Poopsmith costume. Plus, Poopbad is as tall as TPS, which means he could be in a costume that size, but SB couldn't have a costume that height unless that entire head is a very realistic mask. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 03:29, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I agree with you wholeheartedly, actually. Plus I prefer the Variations pic, coz it has no extra stuff in the background. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Lodgings? ==

Has no one else noticed that Bub's is running a hotel with no rooms?
There is a chance they are off screen but this is shattered by the fact Homestar appears from behind the stand, could the rooms be hidden in the supposed Basment? or does Bub's make them sleep on the ground behind the stand? :P
:Probably the basement. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== I ♥ Flint ==

Is it just me, or are these emails verging on [[Wikipedia:Documentary film|documentary]] format? I mean, it used to be Strong Bad answering the emailer's question, then showing an example of him doing it/seeing it/showing it. But now, it's Strong Bad saying he often does a certain thing, and then they'll switch to "[[Wikipedia:Stock footage|stock footage]]" of him doing that thing. More often than not, he narrates the clip. Like in "secret identity" itself, with Strong Bad describing all his alter-ego's, and then suddenly switching to him as that ego in the past. The clips must be in the past because the Tip Tappers one is during the night, and Strong Bad wouldn't take two days to answer an email).

Either that, or he'll say he's going to do something, and then the "directors" switch to other people talking about what he did without showing him doing it. Even though you don't see him doing it, it no doubt happened, due to the character's reaction. This proves the declaration of intent to exercise a certain action, the action-doing itself, and reaction of the other characters are all "filmed". Whether they're edited out or not varies.

Sometimes, Strong Bad (or, in this case, Bubs) will say he's going to do something, then they skip the doing, and go straight to the reaction. Like in [[virus]]. Declaration: Bubs says he's going to shotgun the [[Compy 386|Compy]]; Reaction: Strong Bad runs off crying and Homestar hops on one leg. The action is skipped. Other times, the declaration is stated, completed, and then reacted to. In [[modeling]], Strong Bad says he's going to get Pom Pom take pictures of him, then he does this, and him and Strong Sad talk about it at the end. Other times, Strong Bad will say he'll do something, then he'll do it, and finish the email without showing the reaction. In [[ghosts]], Strong Bad says he'll sweep [[Strongbadia|Strong Badia]] for paranormal activity with The Cheat, and he does, but then he ends the email ends without anyone reacting to it.

I'm sorry that I've taken up so much space with those last two paragraphs, and I just wrote those parts to prove that every action and reaction in these emails are filmed, but some parts are edited out. Okay, so: we got stock footage, editing, talking only to the camera numerous times instead of to someone else or writing the response, plus the fact that he's answering real life fan mail...even though you guys probably won't believe b/w agree with me, but I think these emails have long surpassed [[Fourth Wall Breaks|fourth wall breakings]], and are now full-fledged mockumentaries.

<nowiki>*</nowiki>prepares for the annoying barage of disagreements or personal insults or threats on my life coming from the same condescendingly ubiquitous group of users who get into every moderately imporatant argument on toon pages that seems to follow me like the tail of a snake on that [[Wikipedia:Snake (video game)|cell phone game]]* --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 01:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:I disagree you <nowiki>*** **** $&$$*@!!! ***** chinese dentist! I'ma kill</nowiki> — err, gotta be firm. Well, I'm kinda not sure I see what your point is. If most emails fall under one of those few categories, then most, if not all, well not all, but a lot, of emails are like that, so it kinda hasn't "changed", but what do you expect? Him to say he did something, then the email ends? It's kinda the only way to do things, unless you want every email to be like [[some kinda robot]]. {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::TBC are known to like ''Arrested Development'', which cuts to different scenes and/or back in time in documentary style. Maybe they like that type of format and are either intentionally using it or subconsciously being influenced by it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Not My E-Mail, Yo ==

The Chaps didn't use my e-mail. That's just the way life goes, I guess. Has anyone noticed that Strong Bad has never answered an e-mail from a wiki user? Whatever, I guess I should watch this one. Kinda pointless, but hey, I don't have much life beyond Homestar. {{User:Darth Katana X/sig}}
:Actually, they have. [[montage]] was sent in by a wiki user. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
There's been more than that. There was [[animal]] (sent by kerrek slaya) and.... that's it. It makes me wonder, if there's so many wiki users, how could only two have there email picked, out of all the percentage of Homestar Runner fans, that comes out to about 1.4% of emails checked sent by wiki users. There's gotta be more than 1% of fans being wiki fans, right? {{User:Salty/sig}} 03:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::It wouldn't shock me in the least if that statistic was ''exactly'' right... if not on the generous side. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Well... actually. If you look at things from a different perspective, 1.4% might not be so bad after all: considering the number of H*R fans that contribute to this wiki (out of ~5,000 registered users, i'd say maybe 1,000 if not less are or have been active and/or legitimate). Let's be generous and say we have 4,000 registered users. I don't know the actual statistics, but I think i read somewhere that TBC has ~1,000,000 hits a month. So i'll be conservative and estimate that there are 500,000 H*R fans in existence. That's roughly 0.8% of the fan population that contributes to the wiki. Less conservative estimates (say 2,500 contributors and 750,000 fans) yield smaller numbers (in this case 0.3333%). So, by comparison, one could argue that the proportions of accepted wikian emails vs. general fan populations is bigger, or something. I should be doing my stats HW instead of this. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:05, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

=="Sign-in Book" Fun Facts==

What about moving all the "Guestbook Fun Facts", (there's over a dozen, from the references of the names, to who's behind the names) into one "Special Fun Fact" subheading? Much like we did with [[boring (really)#Fun Facts|Strong Bad's List Of 3 Letter Words]]? Perhaps in a table or something? It's kind of hard to figure out just who's who, and why, when the fun facts are all around everwhere. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:11, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'd agree to that. I think it'd look neat. Although when I first saw this edit summary, I was thinkin' "Why the crap is he writing about [[HRWiki:Guestbooks|guestbooks]] ''here''?" --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::I keep getting edit conflicted, so I'll just leave him to it and mention it here. It somehow needs to mention "Why The Bed", and have a Wikipedia link somewhere there for the person referenced. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:21, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::: I got the main layout finished, anyway. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:27, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::The wiki-link for "Mr. Tesmacher" doesn't explain it at all, as far as I can tell the article doesn't have "tesmacher" in it at all. Anybody know anything about Tesmacher to get a better link or something? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:41, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::: Eh, it made sense when there was a separate fact explaining it, which is the only case where I really think that even might be necessary without a better link. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:42, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Skull Barette ==

The skull-and-bone barette that Cara Carabowditbowdit wears is really ringing a bell for me, but I can't quite place it. It's possible that I'm thinking of Elmyra, from Tiny Toon Adventures, who wore a bow in her hair with a skull in the middle, but I still feel like there's someone more directly similar. Some sort of comic strip or comic book character? Anyone? --[[User:TheNicestGuy|TheNicestGuy]] 14:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Real-world References ==

The items listed in Bub's guestbook are real people and belong in real world references... just as they do in every single other toon. Just because other H*R character take those name as their pseudonym doesn't negate their existence as a real world reference. Please stop removing that section! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:They were listed as references in the special section. There's no reason to split them up like that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:14, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::I think that this is improper and out of line with every other toon. There is no good reason to seperate those real-world references from the others for the reasons stated above. I kindly ask that you revert your edit on this one. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:20, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I'm fine with it being a special case. (We have other special cases in [[50 emails]], [[boring (really)]], and [[bottom 10]], just to name a few.) If it was just one or two lines, it wouldn't be so bad, but in this case we shouldn't present such lengthy information separately. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Hi guys! I was disconnected for a little bit so I missed all the fun. The reason I made the reorganization was as a result of the different edits surrounding this theme. Having this information spread out like this seemed to me a little haphazard and redundant. So I opted to combine all this information into one subsection for clarity. (I originally had [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] in mind as a framework, but now that I see it, it's a different kind of organization; Dot com's examples are better.) Nevertheless, this structure seemed more logical and reasonable than what had been in place. So I think it is reason enough to break with our typical structure and do things a little differently :) Now, to DO that stats hw i've been griping about for days. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 15:39, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== floppy disk stuff ==

''This thread has been moved to [[Talk:Strong Bad Email#Floppy_Disk_Container|Talk:Strong Bad Email → Floppy Disk Container]] due to its relevance to each of the emails, not just this one.''

== Real Genius! ==

Puppet Homestar sings a song from Real Genius in [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2472939609435805830&q=Homestar this] video from a convention. Coincedence? I think not! Except, I don't know where to put this or even whether it should be put somewhere at all. --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 16:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Type Writer Room ==

The room where Strong Bad as Cara Caraboutitboutit(sp?) is typing his article, is very similar to the room in The Interview where he is also typing.

:Yes, it is. That's why [[Smoky Office]] was added to the "Places" section of the page. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Another goof ==

Did anyone else notice that there is a grammatical error on the cover of "Scarfgirl" magazine? It should be "''Are'' politics bad?" not "''Is'' politics bad?". I'm not sure if this is worth noting, so I thought I'd mention it here instead and let all of you regulars decide.
:"Politics" is a singular noun, so "politics is ..."/"Is politics ...?" is the correct verb tense usage. Definition 1 from the American Heritage Dictionary (quoted from dictionary.com):
:'''''(used with a sing. verb)''' The art or science of government or governing, especially the governing of a political entity, such as a nation, and the administration and control of its internal and external affairs.''
:''Political science.''
[[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 21:05, 26 January 2006 (UTC)