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User:Michelle Mabelle

2007-05-26T12:12:50Z

Michelle Mabelle:

So, you've come to my user page for no apparent reason. More likely, you haven't, and nobody is actually reading this. Well, for those of you who aren't currently reading, you may as well know that I'm sixteen, a Beatles fan (but I'm subtle about it, you dig?) and also a big [[Homestar Runner]], um, person...ness...ment. What else is there?

Oh, right. My bottom five (too lazy for ten):

5. Insects - the way they crawl gives me the jeeblies

4. People who don't like music or the H-star-R - they are soulless, let's face it.

3. [[Thy Dungeonman]] - I keep thinking it's going to better than it is.

2. Coming up with crap reasons why you don't like stuff, eg. - because it sucks.

1. Finally, people who don't use apostrophes correctly! Do'nt pretend its not annoyin'g

In conclusion: on a scale from one to awesome, I'm super great.

Talk:Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe

2007-02-21T11:04:33Z

Michelle Mabelle:

== Vague page description ==

There are lots of inconsistencies in the Homestar Runner universe; some are clearly intentional, some are probably not, and most fall somewhere in between. We already have places to note these on the individual toons' pages when they come up; why have a totally separate page for them? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Is it just me, or is this page basically what the Goofs section in every single transcript page is for? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:45, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it could be a page for contradictory things in Homestar Runner? That's a little less vague. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 00:48, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

:Shwoo's idea might work out. This is basically an organizational thing. If I wanted to find all the inconsistencies right now, it would take me FOREVER. Being spread out among dozens of pages, I would probably never find many of them, since a search for "inconsistencies" brings up 4 results. It's just a way to make things easier to find. And that's the point right? Making information easily accessable for everyone else. {{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 00:49, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

::But if you notice an inconsistency in a toon, is that not what the Goofs section is for? Why not search "goofs" and see what you get? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 00:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

:::Not every goof is an inconsistancy. Looking at the goofs on the wiki, most of them are of the "Strong Bad spelled a word wrong" or "the animation looks weird" type.{{User:Shwoo/sig}} 00:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

::::Shwoo is right. Only major inconsistencies are mentioned anyway, and most of the minor ones are ignored. You can search "goofs" all you want, it will come up with a result for every cartoon page on the entire wiki, and that won't help you in any way whatsoever locate your inconsistencies. This page at least deserves a chance, but then again, all of my pages were deleted before they had a chance...{{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 01:03, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

:::::I want to give this page a chance . The bits like how the Lappy have 10 MB instead of 5 MB is a good one. I'm still not removing the {{tl|tobedeleted}} template, but I'm for this page. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:48, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
This is interesting. I'll bet you the Star Trek wiki (if there is one even, I haven't looked) lists at least the major things where continuity is broken within the universe. (If they don't, maybe they should....) Internal inconsistencies are pretty interesting to most people. Creators of a universe also create a world of "fact" which is bound to certain expectations; when the facts fall short of those expectations, it's clearly notable. I see this page as a place to list all the major issues where "Homestar geeks" (read: geekier than us) would argue about which way of looking at things is the one best supported by the canon. I say allow this to develop for a while; if it does, '''keep'''. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

If this page is kept, it should be renamed [[Wikipedia:Retcon|Retcons]]. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:11, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

::Technically, a "retcon" is not when the creators merely contradict themselves, but when they indicate that the new version of "reality" is the correct one. For example, if TBC released a toon telling how Strong Bad and Homestar were friends in their childhood, that may be considered a retcon as it intentionally changes the account from [[flashback]]. The Strong Sad navel drilling might be part of a retcon. But the disk space of the Lappy changing isn't really a retcon, by my read of its definition. And The Cheat being unable to say "Dennis" yet being able to voice characters in his animations is a close call. Additionally, not only is "inconsistencies" a bit more wide-reaching than "retcon" but is a more well-known term that will be a bit more accessible to readers not up on words not found in the Oxford Dictionary. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

:Long live this page! The more the merrier!--[[User:Theyellowdart|Theyellowdart]] 16:53, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
::I don't consider all the site's inconsistencies as "goofs"; the main reason being that inconsistencies often appear between two or more different toons (or games), whereas goofs happen in one toon only. For example, the Trogdor-Peasant's Quest inconsistency (see article) is, of course, between [[TROGDOR!]] and [[Peasant's Quest]]. An example of a goof (or, in this case, a remark) would be Strong Sad's "covered bridge" obsession seen in [[Fall Float Parade]], which began and ended in one cartoon. My bottom line is that there ''is'' a difference, and I therefore vote '''No Delort.''' — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 14:58, 4 December 2005
:::There, I just added an inconsistancy in the King of Town DVD Commentary. I think this is enough info for '''no deletion'''. Keep this page. I found it useful. --[[User:Theyellowdart|Theyellowdart]] 21:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

So is it okay to take the {{tl|tobedeleted}} template off now? It's been over two weeks. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 00:53, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
:I believe that would be a good idea. Now about that moving. I don't think that the name needs to be changed.--[[User:H*Bad|H*Bad]] 03:02, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

== Strong Sad's Apparel ==

*There are several places where Strong Sad wears a "one-time type" article of clothing, ("The Blue Ones," "The Sturge" t-shirt, the two Geddup Noise shirts, etc). I think these should be left out in this section. The "wildebeest pheromones in his laundry" is more consistent with the whole"inconsistency" thing, because it's as though he's saying he ''always'' wears clothes (I think. Sorry, but I'm having trouble explaining what I mean.) I think there's another instance of this type of discrepancy, but I can't remember where it is... [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 22:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
*True dat. I made that edit. Leave it out, then... {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}

== Compy screen width and length ==

It's been very inconsistent, through the main Strong Bad view, and through examples in [[replacement]] and [[huttah!]]. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 00:02, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

What I mean is the width has been 4:3'd at times and then it's a bit wider... --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 00:03, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
:Hm. It's true. I say it can go on the page. Anyone else? {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}

== The chair ==

Here's one to add: In [[the chair]], Strong Bad gets a new chair, but in [[what i want]], he's back to the stool.

That's not an inconsistency, Strong Bad just went back to Stooly. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 12:07, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

== Tongue or no tongue? ==

I just realized: In the DVD version of Homestar Runner's theme song video, Homestar sticks out his tongue while figuring out an answer for the test, but there are TONS of times when he says words with the letter "L" in them without lifting it.
Not to mention Strong Mad, who had his tongue out while carving "DAGRON" on the table, but no tongue present when he says "L" words or any words with "L" in them. See also Remarks in [[retirement]]. This whole description should count as a long-lasting inconsistency, shouldn't it?
-(Feb. 3, 2007)
:This delves into the topic of "cartoon physics". In short, we don't know the method these "dumn animal characters" use to produce the phoneme /l/. One might assume it's the same as we do, given the presence of a tongue, but that's not necessarily the case. When two apparently conflicting facts can in some way coexist within a cartoon, that's not really an inconsistency in my mind. When they cannot be reconciled based on each simply having to be impossible given the other, that's an inconsistency. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:43, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

== Anti Chicken-Wings ==
I think it's kind of unnecessary to be arguing over the "chicken wings" thing. I made this article for inconsistencies and goofs IN-BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT TOONS, not within the same toon. That's the Goofs section. If we really can't decide, then someone should STUFF it.{{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 03:28, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

== Senior Prom "Inconsistency" ==
I would argue that it's not an inconsistency for Strong Bad to say he never wears underwear, only to be revealed wearing underwear in [[senior prom]]. I mean, we don't know how many years earlier that toon is. That's like someone saying "I never wear diapers," and being called a liar because they wore diapers as a baby. Sure, to be more accurate he could've said, "I never wear underwear ''anymore''", but I'm still not sure. [[User:Michelle Mabelle|Michelle Mabelle]] 11:04, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

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2007-02-21T10:55:18Z

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Talk:Strong Bad Email

2007-02-21T10:49:12Z

Michelle Mabelle:

{{Template:Talk:Strong Bad Email}}
{{featuredarticle}}
{| style="background:#CFC; border: 1px dashed #090"
|-
| style="padding:10px" | '''Checklist for new Strong Bad Email:'''
*Create an article with the title of the new email (as listed on the [[HR:sbemail.html|Strong Bad Email menu]]) with the content <tt><nowiki>{{subst:newsbemail|###}}</nowiki></tt> (substitute the new email number for <tt>###</tt>). If you already know the forum thread number, use <tt><nowiki>{{subst:newsbemail|###|#####}}</nowiki></tt>.
*Update [[Template:sbemail]]. Be sure to set the value of "last" to the new email.
*Update main [[Strong Bad Email]] list, and the [[Template:Strong Bad Email|template list]].
*On the main [[Strong Bad Email]] page, update the total emails and various fun facts.
*Update each list in the Strong Bad Email [[Template:StrongBadEmailInfo|navigation template]].
*Update [[Template:recenttoons]].
*Link the email page to the forum and vice versa, if necessary.
*Redirect <tt><nowiki>[[</nowiki>sbemail###]]</tt> and <tt><nowiki>[[</nowiki>sbemail ###]]</tt> (one with no space, one with) to the current email.
|} 

== E-mail Command Lines ==

Is there a list of all the command lines Strongbad has used to check his e-mail? (IE: sbemail.exe, strongbad_email.exe or run "Strongbad's__email", etc...)
:Each of the computers' pages ([[Tandy 400]], [[Compy 386]], and [[Lappy 486]]) has a list of ALL the commands used on that particular computer. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== A Quick Question... ==

does anybody know why the title of the sbemail page is "denny's menu"? i looked around, and tell me if i missed anything...-{{User:Homsar7/sig}}
:I believe it's a reference to the resturaunt [[Wikipedia:Denny's|Denny's]]. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==No caps==

All of the titles of our email pages are in lowercase. This is because they're lowercase in the email menu, right? Well, they aren't lowercase on the Podcast page, and so officially the titles are capital, maybe. I don't think we should change these, but I'm just throwing it out there. {{User:Salty/sig}} 22:10, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Hm, I'm not sure what to think of that. Technically, all the emails had lowercase titles when they were first released, but if they were changed to uppercase, does that mean TBC have intentions of changing them to uppercase? Or could it just be some incompatability issue with the iPod software? I think this issue should merit expert consultation. {{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 22:14, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

: There are capital letters in a few emails on the site - [[3 Wishes]] and [[CGNU]], specifically, cross my mind. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:30, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
::What he's getting at is that on the podcast, emails like [[techno]] are capitalized. So the question is, should we capitalize these titles as well? Or more accurately, how should we handle this? {{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 22:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I know what he was getting at, but... ah, you know what, I can't even remember what I was trying to get at. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:35, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

::::It's not just Podstar; the email titles on the DVDs are all capitalized. Has anybody noticed that the DVD-only email articles are capitalized? Now that this is thrown into the pot, the problem with capitalizing only Podstar emails can be thrown out. Personally, I'm in favor of capitalizing Strong Bad Emails with respect to the DVD and Podstar, but first, I'm going to need someone to do some research for me, since I do not have access to my DVDs:
::::*Which multiple-word and special-case titles are capitalized Like This, and which, if any, are capitalized Like this?
::::*Do any capitalizations on the DVD conflict with Podstar?
::::Due to the breadth of such a project, this is going to need a well-defined plan of action, including: when and by whom the titles are going to be moved, what high-priority redirects need to be fixed right away, how to accomplish fixing all other redirects, how to find and fix all non-linked titles, the understanding that all future emails will have to have a lowercase redirect, and stuff like that. It's a massive project and a very big change over how it's been done these years, but I don't think it will be too much to get used to. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:46, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::WaitWaitWaitWaitWait. Putting "Road Trip" in the search box yields [[road trip]] immediately. A lower-case title being found with a capitalized search is not an issue. I recommend not changing the current page names, as they are the historic first names, and they won't break a search. If a DVD or Podcast-only sbemail should be capitalized (like [[Videro Games]]), we should capitalize the same. If it's shown a capped title won't properly lead to the sbemail's page, a redirect should be made. And finally, the changed title should be noted in the Fun Facts on the sbemail's page. There's no reason to change all the locks when the key's not out. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:53, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
::::::It has occurred to me that capitalizing will create ambiguity between [[pom pom]] and [[Pom Pom]], [[marzipan]] and [[Marzipan]], etc. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:00, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Good point. It will also break the Greasemonkey script.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:02, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Well, (character) can be added, and scripts can be modified. But the real question is which title is canonical? Originally, most sbemails are un-capped. I strongly suggest staying with that, and solving any problems with redirects and the like. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:06, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I agree; we should stick with the email titles as shown on the Strong Bad Email menu. DVDs are not on the site, and I don't consider the Podstar menu to have more weight than the real email menu. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:07, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Whoa, you guys actually considered it? Well, I also thought of the conflicts with Marzipan and Pom Pom. This would also be a whole lot of work. It's just that two official things have them capitalized "DVDs and Podstar) and only one (though it's more official) has it capped. I dunno. Did we reach consensus? {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:17, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I think we have officially reached consensus that the titles '''NOT''' be changed unless it is shown on the website. {{User:Ten Ten/sig}} 01:19, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
:To be more precise: we will capitalize according to the first actual title. Subsequent tilles will at best reach it through a redirect of sorts. So sbemails debuting on the site get the site title, sbemails debuting on the DVD get the DVD title, and if a sbemail ever debuts on Podcast, it gets that title. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:46, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

::What if the sbemails were titled according to number? (e.g. 001. Some Kinda Robot) This way, marzipan & pom pom can be simply titled, "059. Marzipan" and "108. Pom Pom," respectively, rather than titling them, "Marzipan (SBEmail)" and "Pom Pom (SBEmail)," respectively again. Plus, nobody will have to search the emails by lowercase letters.

:::I don't think that's a good idea at all. Under that system, just about every time we wanted to refer to ''any'' email, we'd have to use a piped link. I can't see any compelling reason whatsoever to change the status quo. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:54, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

==Not quite Strong Bad email==
Is that missing Lappy short a NQSBE? It does relate to his email checking.[[User:68.239.213.209|68.239.213.209]] 13:54, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:I think so, yes. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:49, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
::I agree. At first I didn't think so, but after looking at the list of what else has been considered NQSBE's, I think that this another one. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:57, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

== Retirement ==

Shouldn't the retirement email be labeled like this?

158. cliffhanger
159. retirement A
160. retirement B

[[User:RocketMasterZ|RocketMasterZ]] 04:49, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

:It's officially 159 a & b, per the URLs: [[HR:sbemail159a.html|sbemail159a.html]], [[HR:sbemail159b.html|sbemail159b.html]]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:53, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks, but it's not very, accurate. [[User:RocketMasterZ|RocketMasterZ]] 05:17, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, it's a bit odd that they called two seperately released emails one email, but they did call it that, so that's what we stick with. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 05:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
:::How is it not accurate? It's precisely what TBC called them. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 12:48, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

== Retirement, part 2 ==

Just for argument's sake- I put this to a vote. I believe that emails 159a and 159b should be placed in the proper era where they were answered in. Opinions? --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:29, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

:Er - they were answered in the Lappy era. That was the whole point of the plot. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 20:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
::Also, the point of the list is to keep them in numerical order. The eras and email-style formatting are just nifty things we've added on. Plus, parts A and B don't exist separately anymore. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Emails 119-present are Lappy ''era'' emails, not necessarily Lappy ''email'' emails. This is like how there are no Pom Pilot era email(s) or Tangerine Dreams era email(s). —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:44, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

== Eggs ==

I just saw the newest Weebl and Bob cartoon in which they reference Strong Bad Email. The cartoon is called "Email" and the reference reads as follows:

Weebl: Yes, but today also...THE DAY WE GET EMAIL! 
Bob: Ooh. Like that strongbad chap? 
Weebl: No, not like that at all. 

Where should we put this? --[[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] 22:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

:Already listed as an animation sighting: [[Animation Sightings#Weebl and Bob]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 02:13, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

== Other Characters? ==

I'd be interested in a page dedicated to the other characters who have answered Strong Bad's e-mails (the Cheat and Homestar come to mind), or one that deals exculsively with internet access to all the characters (disconnected phone, ISP, and website pages come to mind first, as well as Strong Sad's Lament/e-mail, King Of Town's page/e-mail, etc.). I'm not sure if this would go under statistics or what. I'd try to start one but all my stuff tends to be deleted so I won't. :-). Does anyone else think this is cool? Or is there already one like that? I love the details on this site... -Cyndi 12 October 2006
:Well, there's already a category for it: [[:Category:Character Websites]]. And exept The Cheat and Homestar i don't think anyone answered an email besides Strong Bah. If anyone else answer an email then ''maybe'' there could be a page. Nice idea though. Keep on thinking of ways to improve the wiki! :) {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:17, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
::There have been a number of references to online activity by the characters (from Bubs hosting his only customer, to Strong Mad's "E-COMMERCE!" carton) but I wonder if that's so unique to merit being noted. In a way, it'd be like having a page discussing all the characters' various jobs - that's info we'd note on a character's page, but not notable enough to collect all onto one. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:26, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Coul' be one o' them "Re-Serch" pages. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:41, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Or one of those lists where people aren't sure what should be included and what not.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:46, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

== Question on emailing ==

Would it make any difference if you sent an email using yahoo. - {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 04:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
:Any difference in what? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:21, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
:Sorry what I meant to say was do TBC get emails sent from yahoo. - {{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 04:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
::Of course. Everybody can get emails from any provider. - {{User:The Joe/sig}} 04:34, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

== Bugging Me==
Okay, sorry guys, but something's been bugging me. Which email is the email where Strong Bad shows that he blocks all of Homestar's emails? It's one of the newer ones.... I just can't remember though. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:27, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
:That would be [[candy product]] (which I found via the [[Edgar]] page). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:32, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
::Thank you, phlip. {{User:Salty/sig}} 01:49, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

== Blockquotes ==

I think we should update the blockquotes with the most recent Strong Bad, which has a different emblem shading. <s>[[User:X66x66|X66x66]]</s> {{unsigned|152.3.5.15|23:28, 15 December 2006}}

== What about The Paper? ==

Why isn't the Paper included in the cast lists? [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 22:49, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

:See [[Talk:The Paper#TBC refer to The Paper as a character.|Talk:The Paper]]. The Paper is a [[:Category:PseudoCharacters|pseudocharacter]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:52, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
::Oh. Okay. But aren't some other pseudocharacters listed, like in [[army]], (Frank Bennedetto), or [[bedtime story]], (The Denzel)? [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 22:59, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
:::The Paper's listed at the bottom of each. I think it's more convenient that way. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Okay! I'll take that. [[User:4kai2lyn6|kai lyn]] 23:01, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

== The font used in sbemails ==

Does anyone know which font exactly is used in the Strong Bad e-mails? Is it a free one?
:Check our [[Fonts]] page. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Capitalizing titles ==
:''This discussion is a continuation of "[[Talk:Main Page#Capital Sbemail titles?]]".''
Seeing that TBC capitalize email titles on [[Podstar Runner]] and [[TV Time Toons Menu]], should we start doing the same? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 22:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:I think Denny's Menu should set the precedent, as they appear there first and longest. So no. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 22:30, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
::We need to combine all the fractured discussions on this topic so that we don't have to post in X0 places. And I agree with Dorian. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:::They're capitalised on the DVDs too... Denny's Menu is the only place where they're lowercase... I think the status quo is fine though. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:40, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
::::The earliest/most complete listing is the one we should use. Little letters, please. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

== Scrolling Songs ==

Is there a list of all the songs Strong Bad has sung while enticing you to use the scroll buttons? It seems like pretty much everything else is covered, so I'd be surprised if they weren't anywhere on the Wiki. [[User:Michelle Mabelle|Michelle Mabelle]] 10:49, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

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== Homestar Water Container ==

Does anyone want to have some fun and guess how Homestar got in there.I think... hmm what do I think umm I don't know what I think never mind.
{{User:Flamer8965/sig}} 06:17, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:Chuck Norris - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 06:32, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:Well, he was in Barbados, hanging a picture on the wall... -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:32, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
::Naturally he met a witch doctor who asked him where he spends most of his time, and he said in the water cooler...
Or even better, take this to the [[Forum:10200|forum thrad]].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 06:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:Anyone have any idea what Barbados has to do with a water cooler? Very odd. I feel like there HAS to be a joke there that I'm not getting. I mean why does that one partial sentence tell SB all he needs to know?? Is this a movie reference maybe?
::I think it's just completely random. SB knew that Homestar was about to tell him some completely untrue and nonsensical story, so he stopped him right there... {{User:Trey56/sig}} 11:53, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Ok maybe it's really completely random, but just for the sake of it I'll try. Homestar was in Barbados, hanging a picture on the wall of a bathroom. Much like Doc in Back to the Future when he was hanging a clock on the wall, he was standing on the toilet while doing it, but since it's Homestar, he didn't think of closing the lid. He slipped, fell in the toilet, and flushed himself on the way. He then went through a maze of pipes and ended up in the water cooler in the office. It almost make sense, no?

== Old-Timey Nebulon? ==

Think this alien could be the Old-Timey Nebulon? Could be!--{{User:Bleed0range/sig}} 07:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:Well, The Homestar Runner doesn't like his style...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 07:33, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
::True, but i expected that 1936 Nebulon would be green (in the easter egg, he's gray) and to be shaped more like him. --[[User:Young Roy|Y. Roy]] 13:00, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Actually, *all* the Old-Timey characters are in black and white, all the time. Even if they're outside of the Old-Timey dimension, such as [[20X6 vs. 1936]] and [[alternate universe]]. I'd say this is the Old-Timey equivilent of Nebulon. -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:23, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:I think it's possible; I did kind of think about Nebulon (the whole "Because you're a communist fool!" thing seems a bit similar to the "Nobody likes your style!" thing), but I don't think there's quite enough resemblance other than that to say he's ''definitely'' supposed to be 1936'd Nebs. {{User:Saturn/sig}} 13:27, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:It's not much of a stretch to see that as Neb. But "our" Neb has two eyes and doesn't talk... Not to mention no arms or discernible legs. I'm still going with that being Neb, however. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 14:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
::Strong Bad tells nebulon that noone likes his style. 1-Up tells 20X6 Nebulon that no one likes his style. So, it's be legit that The Homestar Runner would tell 1936 Nebulon that noone likes his style. Also, he has no similar shape to him, Homestar says he's RED, and whne homestar says "Because you're a communist fool!" to him, he doesn't make the noise. Or any noise. --[[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]
:::"Red" is just a nickname because he's a Commie, though. Or something like that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Stretch in Real World References ==

"The Homestar fireworks at the end of the cartoon is a direct sendup from Super Mario Brothers 1 for the Nintendo Entertainment System; you recieved fireworks when you did very well on a level."

Highly unlikely. For one, you got that at the end if you finished at a certain time. Second, lots of things have fireworks at the end. I don't see how this is a referance to SMB more than, say, a political cartoon in which fireworks appear as a patriotical symbol.

:I completely agree and removed the fact. Anyone who thinks differently may STUFF it. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 09:01, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree completely with the Super Mario Bros. reference. That was my take on it. (Sorry if I'm screwing this wiki format up, I'm a newbie)

Frankly, I think that the fireworks in this mail are closer to the fireworks found in either one of the Main Pages or Strong Bad E-Mail #100. But that's about the same kind of stretch, so... Hah hah! ~ [[User:Jessica Ingmann|Jessica Ingmann]] 13:21, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

== Coulomb's law ==

...and I thought that I was going to go the rest of my life without ever hearing Coulomb's law again. Oh well. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 11:04, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

:That's makes two of us... {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 11:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

::On my [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish#Pre-Calc_101|talk page]] we already talked about the horrors of Calc, now I have to relive physics again. I never really understood what a Gausian Surface was, but I got the problems correct on the test somehow. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:52, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey hey hey. Hey. Hey. Hey, now... physics is cool. Yes, I'm a physicist.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 23:41, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

:Do you teach physics or practice it? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

::Well, in a sense we ''all'' practice physics every day... {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:::re-phrase... Teach? If so HS or college? <s>Practice</s> Research? If so, what's your field? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 04:05, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

::::Still an undergraduate, but I'm hoping to teach it some day. I'm thinking about getting into solar cell design and that kind of stuff. But for now, I have enough to worry about with statistical mechanics.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 00:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

:::::Forgive me for indirectly insulting your passion/future profession; I've always found that while physics is fun to rattle off (and hear other people do this), this past time loses favor as my will to live dives.--{{User:The4sword/sig}} 00:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm just impressed that they stated the law correctly. TBC are pretty smart. --[[User:75.194.212.178|75.194.212.178]] 04:57, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

== TTATOT Oprah ==

When homestar started talking about makeovers, did anyone else think that he sounded a little like Oprah? I'm enough people will shout TTATOT, so I'm not even going to bother putting it up. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

:Yeah, there are tons of shows like that, once again it's a reference to the whole genre of talk shows, instead of a particular one. Although that chair-throwing is clearly a Jerry Springer, because he is known for his violence. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

::Not just the chair throwing but the whole, let's bring on the bad boyfriend thing, which was obviously JS. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:59, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

::The surprise guest is Springer, but the thrown chair if infamously Geraldo.

:::As is, the fun fact is horribly TTATOT. There's a certain reference to the Today Show logo as noted below, but listing specific programs the "makeover" and "reality talk show" segments refer to is a little much, in my opinion. This could be split into two facts, one a reference to the logo, another to the basic genres of shows being referenced (but not specifics). {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

::::I think you may have gone a bit too far. The incident where a chair gets thrown at Homestar is almost definitely from Geraldo. It pretty much the single incident most people think of when you mention someone throwing a chair at a reality talk show. NOT mentioning Geraldo in reference to that scene would sound like you'd missed a reference. [[User:El Santo|El Santo]]

:Wasn't it Jenna Jones who had rhyming titles for her shows, like Homestar does when intoducing his guest? [[User:Lord-z|Lord-z]] 19:54, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

== AM ==

When the show comes on, there is a semi circle. I am certain that it is very close to a 1980's logo for either Good Morning America or a similiar show. Can anyone find it? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 12:58, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:Nevermind, I found it, it was the old Today show logo. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:55, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

== Transcript ==

I'm pretty sure that Homestar says "sweet Jesus" after SB tries to get him out of the water cooler, not "sweet genius". [[User:Zero.exe|Zero.exe]] 15:18, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I am certain he said genius. Living the Atlanta, TBC have (very wisely IMO), never overtly made light of religion, and I listened a second time, just to me sure.--[[User:Saxonjf|Saxon the Deutschmaster]] 15:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

It ''is'' "Sweet '''genius''', that huht!!", babe. Though it probably ''is'' a take on "Sweet '''Jesus'''," which is part of an explitive some people say, blah blah blah. ~ [[User:Jessica Ingmann|Jessica Ingmann]] 13:25, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

== Old KOT? ==

The king of town's crown looked like it was in the King of town DVD.

==Match Game PM==

Could The Show AM be a reference to Match Game PM? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 17:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:I was thinkin' it was more along the lines of early morning talk shows such as Good Morning America and Today. As IRF said about three subjects ago, the AM logo is the old Today show logo. Also, many things were based on The Jerry Springer Show. -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 20:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
::When I saw the AM, that was actually the first thing I thought of. (Maybe The Show AM is in syndication :P) --[[User:Libertyernie|Libertyernie]] 21:36, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Just like Limozeen: But They're in Space!! -[[User:Brightstar Shiner|''Brightstar Shiner'']] 01:17, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

== Mongolian ==

This is another reference to a Mongolian Product, such as the Finest Mongolian Aftershave Lotion.--[[User:Zonis|Zonis]] 17:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

== Mid-term Election Time?? ==

Does anybody else think it was not just a coincidence that this came out fairly soon after the mid-term elections in the USA?
I mean it even has Homestar as the Capitol building. Just putting it out there... {{User:Raptor5ix/sig}} 00:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:I think coincidence. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

::I think it's not just a coincidence; it's the first thing that came to my mind when I saw they were going governmental. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 05:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

::The elections are ''exactly'' what I thought of. Why else would they make the governmental analogy in this e-mail? It seems out of place otherwise. (Another thought -- are TBC comparing our government to Homestar? Um ... never mind. Let's not go there ...) --[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 16:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I think it's obviously about the election. I don't think it is for or against anything, it's just about the government generally, and it was done at this paticular time because of the recent election.

Therefore, I think the page should mention that this was done shortly after the election and link to Wikipedia's article about the election. --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 20:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I didn't notice it, and even now that it's mentioned, it seems pretty irrelevant. It boils down to "there was a government in a cartoon around election time, but the cartoon stated nothing/insinuated nothing about the actual government" - I mean, I'm not sure if it's even intentional. Even so, it couldn't hurt to put a link in or at least acknowledge the fact. Anyway, I'm not from the US so maybe it just didn't jump out at me -- [[User:Michelle Mabelle|Michelle Mabelle]] 21:50, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

== Collecting the correct line ==

Yeah, uh oh, it's me questioning a line in the transcript. Again. Sorry. Okay, anyway, the word "collect"/"correct" may never be fully distinguishable thanks to it being Homestar, but I do not and cannot hear "calls". I hear a distinct M, especially with my good headphones. Sure, maybe "calls collect" makes the most sense, but... this is Homestar. Doing stupid things. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 06:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I also clearly hear an "M". {{User:Exhibit A/sig}} 16:20, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

So what are you suggesting, then? "Comes Correct"? --[[User:Bobsmith84|Bobsmith84]] 18:14, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

:I hear "calls collect". {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:18, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:Bobsmith: pretty much. As I said, I recognize that it's nonsense, but that's what I hear. And would Homestar saying nonsense really be that unexpected? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
::I hear "Comes correct". — {{User:SamFisher1022/sig}} 15:34, 15 November 2006
:::For once, I agree with Jay against all reason. It sounds more like "comes correct", even though I want to hear "calls collect".--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 00:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::I also hear "Comes correct". The phrase is not nonsense, (it sounds odd to me too, but I have heard it used before). A few google queries for reference: [http://www.google.com/search?q=comes+correct][http://www.google.com/search?q=come+correct][[User:Bryanc|Bryanc]] 00:45, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I agree with Bryanc. I definitely hear "comes correct", and since it is [http://www.rapdict.org/Come_correct rap vocabulary], it also makes perfect sense in the sentence Homestar uses it in. He's also half-rapping, IMHO.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 00:55, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

== Communists..... ==

Is "War of the Worlds" really an example of aliens representing communists? It's about the right time period, but that's the only reason for this as far as I can see, and there's nothing about it on the Wikipedia article, or any of the references to that. If anything it seems to carry the same message as the original book (that however great man's power is we are still dependent on nature). Plus it was hardly likely that the communists were going to all die of a cold..... [[User:DumbMuscle|DumbMuscle]] 20:35, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

== Jolly Dumple = Cast? ==

Is the Jolly Dumple a cast member? Homestar is not actively portraying this mascot. The costume is being used as a kind of house. I simply don't see how this character is a real cast member. He appears, sure, but the appearance of a costume does not, in my mind, constitute an appearance by the character the costume represents. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:[[mascot|Mascot]]'s cast list says "[[Homestar Runner]] as [[The Jolly Dumple]]", so since Homestar isn't playing ol' Jolly, it shouldn't be in the cast list. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

== "Correct" Spanish Form ==

I am under the impression there technically is no "'correct' Spanish form" for New York, as you are not supposed to translate proper nouns. Shouldn't this be noted in the remark in question, or am I just being an English major again?
:Proper nouns get translated all the time. It's true that some words are not translatable, but those that can be tranlated, are translated. Most of the words we use for foreign cities and countries differ (at least slightly) from the local spelling and pronunciation, and in some cases it differs drastically (what we call ''Germany'' the Germans call ''Deutschland''). Likewise, English proper nouns are translated into other languages. ''The United States of America'' is ''les États-Unis d'Amérique'' in French and ''los Estados Unidos de América'' in Spanish. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

== yes BABY, the whole password ==

frame 1376 or so, he says baby, im pretty sure. at any rate, it sound more like baby than lady to me, and it would fit the changing pronouns that he uses, ie, maam, sir, baby, etc.

also, could we note somehow in inside references that the work they do at the office consists of trying to get ppl's passwords? {{User:Csours/sig}} 04:35, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I also think he says "baby" and I was just about to make a post on it here. It is rather difficult to tell for sure, but I've watched the toon several times (I just can't get enough of Homestar stuffed into a water cooler!) and each time I listen close to that part. I give it about 70 - 30 in favor of "baby".

Completely agree with "baby". I'm gonna go ahead and change that if it's not reverted immediately.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 15:07, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm a little surprised, but yes, I hear baby now too. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:44, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

:I definitely hear baby. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:57, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

== Super quick geddup noise ==

If you have a flash seek bar and 'fast forward' through the email you can hear the super quick geddup noise! Weird...
:Yeah, I hear seek bars do all kinds of wierdness... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::There's a record scratch in there too. Most toons have at least one sound effect that isn't embedded into the Flash, but is triggered by it. Take [[virus]]: Strong Bad crying as he runs back to his Compy. I dunno why they do that though. It must be easier in some way. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:::theres another one too, around the mascot part of the email...
:::::The record scratch. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm guessing that TBC add all the sounds as individual sound bites, and Flash mixes them all together when the .swf file is saved... and every now and again they forget to change one of the clips from "Event" to "Stream"... so it just plays when that frame is reached, rather than being tied directly to the video... something like that, anyways. It'd probably be easier to do this way... they could add or remove parts of the toon without having to remix all of the audio again... Flash would do it all for them. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:48, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::That's what I was thinking too, but I didn't know a whole lot about the technicalities to be confident. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

== Fro-tardent? ==

Am I the only one who hears "flame fro-tardent" even though pro-tardent makes more sense and is funnier? Yes? I am? Oh, okay then...--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 23:48, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
:Okay then. ^_^ —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
::yea i actually do hear fro-tardent but that may be the compression doing that. i think flame thro-tardent would be funnier. {{User:Csours/sig}} 00:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Thro-tardant? What does that even mean? Protardant is hilarious because it's meant to be the opposite retardant. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

== Communist ==
Took out remark about how "communist" would not be perceived as an insult before WWII, because that statement is simply untrue.
:Why is it untrue? Please give a more detailed reason than this. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
::I assume the line of thinking is about U.S. relations with the Soviet Union, which were pretty good until the Allies had to divide up the conquered Axis territory. That all fell apart and basically caused the Cold War. That, however, resulted in the ''second'' "Red Scare". The [[Wikipedia:First Red Scare|''first'' one]] began shortly after the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution in response to fears that a Communist revolution would destroy the American way of life. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
:::According to that 'Kipedia article, the "first red scare" ended 1920, about 15 years before the Old-Timey time.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 08:02, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
::::That does not suddenly make it not an insult. According to [[Wikipedia:Red Scare|Wikipedia]], "As a result of the fear and oppression around the First Red Scare, membership in the Communist Party of the United States and similar Marxist/Communist groups was reduced by some 80 percent." If there was not some negative stigma connected to being labeled a Communist, why would this have happened post-1920? It's a mistake to read the article and assume that everything was all nicey-nicey for 25 years. From [[Wikipedia:Anti-communism|Anti-communism]]:

<blockquote>The 1920s and 30s saw the fading of traditional conservatism. The mantle of conservative anti-communism was taken up by the rising fascist movements on the one hand, and by American-inspired liberal conservatives on the other. Communism remained largely a European phenomenon, so anti-communism was also concentrated in Europe. When communist groups and political parties began appearing elsewhere in the world, such as in China in the late 1920s, their opponents were usually colonial authorities and/or local nationalist movements.</blockquote>

::::While this paragraph is speaking specifically about European sentiment, note how the anti-communist attitude was inspired by American ideals, which at this point were partly instrumental in transforming the largely monarchial European governments into the democracies we see today. Later in this article, we read how public opposition, even fear, of communism started to occur in the 40's. What history teaches us is that these public hostilities are always preceded by more private beliefs. To state, as this fact does, that the 30's were a "golden window" when there was no negative attitudes toward Communists in the US is simply misguided. That's why I believe the fact should be removed. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 10:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::It's now [[STUFF:4_branches|STUFF'd]] {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 15:01, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Weclome Back

2006-08-08T12:47:03Z

Michelle Mabelle:

==Agatha Christie/Angela Lansbury==
Shouldn't the part explaning that be in Real-World References, rather than Remarks? Seems to me like it should. -- [[User:Michelle Mabelle|Michelle Mabelle]]

==Bologna==
We can leave the Baloney in Baloney Sammich Truck but otherwise it should be bologna
:Both are accepted spellings... [http://m-w.com/dictionary/baloney Merriam-Webster] lists Baloney as a variant of Bologna. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Those words have undergone differentiation. ''Baloney'' is properly only "nonsense", and the meat product is ''bologna''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::It's dot com, I don't think that's a true statement. M-W shows it as a variant of "bologna"; if you have a dictionary citation where it's noted that "baloney" doesn't mean "bologna" anymore, then provide it. Especially as they use the "baloney" spelling in the toon, and barring absence of evidence that it cannot adequately mean the meat, we should use the "baloney" spelling throughout. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 19:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::: Touché. Sandwich was also misspelled as "sammich" so the explicit use of "baloney' was probably just word play.
:::::"Sammich" is not a documented and accepted spelling of "sandwich", however. "Baloney" is. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::: I have personally never seen the sausage meat being spelled as anything except "bologna" in any ''serious'' context. Bubs' truck is hardly what I'd call serious. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::Because simple personal experience is limited, we have lexicographers whose job it is to determine actual usage on the broad scale. Above it is shown that Merriam Webster's lexicographic staff feels "baloney" is an accepted spelling of the meat product. [http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=5771&dict=CALD Cambridge] and [http://www.bartleby.com/61/79/B0047900.html American Heritage] agree. Oxford seems to disagree, however Oxford is a primarily British dictionary which also documents US usage, so the actual US dictionaries should take precedence here. Note that I am not saying "bologna" would be wrong, but that it would be inconsistent with TBC's usage on the site, and as such would be less appropriate for the knowledge base. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::I don't think the outcome of this discussion is very important, but I will note that searching Oscar Meyer's (probably the manufacturer of the most bologna in North America) website for [http://www.kraftfoods.com/oscarmayer/main.aspx?s=recipe&m=recipe%2Fknet_recipe_grid&u1=keyword&u2=baloney baloney] reveals zero occurrences, and searching for [http://www.kraftfoods.com/oscarmayer/main.aspx?s=recipe&m=recipe%2Fknet_recipe_grid&u1=keyword&u2=bologna bologna] reveals several. My vote is to refer to it as "bologna" everywhere but "Baloney Sammich Truck". {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Of course that's a branding choice on Oscar Meyer's part (the song wouldn't be so great if they had a way with b-a-l-o-n-e-y!), as "baloney" is the branding choice for [http://www.maloneysbaloney.com/ Maloney's Baloney]. Then there's LightLife's [http://www.solae.com/soyproteinproducts/products/foneybaloney.jsp Foney Baloney], another clear branding choice. One would expect branding usage to be consistent, regardless of whether the word is real or not, or whether the form of the word is more, less, or equally prevalent in American English. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 21:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Also, I think it's strange to assume that "baloney" is TBC's preferred spelling based off of "Baloney Sammich Truck"; no one's arguing that "sandwich" should be respelled "sammich" everywhere in the article... :) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 21:54, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Again, as I noted above, no one would argue that, because "sammich" is not a lexicographically-accepted word. "Baloney" is, as I think I have proven, as correct a spelling as "bologna" in American English, and to insist on using a spelling TBC did not use in this case seems a little odd to me. Compare to this: what if they did a toon about "pop" and people argued we should call it "soda" because it matches their personal experience? This is NOT a case of them making up a word or spelling out a slang term, and the line of thinking we'd use if they called it "ba-low-knee" or something else like that doesn't apply. It's my position that if they use a real spelling of a real word in canon, we should follow suit when discussing canon. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think it's pretty much a regional spelling difference, like saying 'soda' or 'pop'. Most people, I would assume, have seen both. Since the only documented instance of the word's spelling is 'baloney', I think we should continue that spelling throughout, although add somewhere "baloney (which can also be spelled bologna)".[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]] 22:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::If only they had misspelled "truck" — then the case would be clear! Since this isn't the case, I think Trelawney's suggestion is the best compromise, although I would change the parenthetical statement to "(more commonly spelled bologna)". And now I plan to spend no more time thinking about this molehill. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm not questioning the veracity of the various dictionaries you noted, nor am I suggesting that ''baloney'' isn't a variant of ''bologna''. What I am saying is that, given their differentiation, ''baloney'' in the sense of the meat product is a ''needless'' variant (for my source and some excellent further reading, I highly recommend ''[[Special:Booksources/0195161912|Garner's Modern American Usage]]''). As for this toon, I don't have a good answer there. It clearly reads "Baloney" on the truck, which is why I have made no attempt to change the references in the transcript. Whether or not TBC were being tongue-in-cheek with the spelling is anyone's guess, but, as much as I dislike it, we should spell it consistently without a better reason not to. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I will say that because bubs spelled Sandwich as Sammich. We should spell it sammich the whole article and i'm off! {{unsigned|Taste of your medicine|03:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)}}

:I'd caution against disrupting the wiki to illustrate a point, as [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point|Wikipedia does in this guideline]]. Please discuss the issue here on the talk page and not through edits and edit summaries. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:08, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:Please review my points above, in particular my 22:03, 3 July 2006 UTC post. With which part of that do you disagree? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

::I'd just like to add that "sammich" is pronounced differently to "sandwich", so it was clear which one to transcribe. When Bubs said "I'm-tryingtosellabaloneysammich!" he clearly says "sammich", and when he says "I drove my baloney sandwich truck down to the beach" he clearly says "sandwich". Yes, I thought of that while I was transcribing - I considered using "sammich" everywhere too, but that wasn't what he was ''saying''. With baloney/bologna, there is no such differentiation - the only difference is in the spelling, and the decision boils down to "we should use the correct term" vs "we should use the term that's still an accepted variant, but would be consistant". I think the latter is the better choice. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:::It was word play! Tell you what. A wiki and fourm consensus seems like what we should do, I say we vote on this to be truly fair. At next Tuesday we take the winner and post that in Weclome Back. '''TOYM''' 15:42 UTC 4 July 2006

::::I think we should just spell it however Los` Brotheren Cowboy Boots spell it. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Quick question: Has anyone considered the possibility that Bubs is trying to sell ''nonsense'' sandwiches, as opposed to bologna sandwiches? That if someone actually bought a sammich from Bubs on this deserted [[island]], they'd get a couple slices of bread, maybe with a [[Fortune Cookies|fortune]] inside or something? :) It could just be one of the [[isp|99 ways he rips you off]]. That would be a good case for leaving it "baloney", IMHO. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:17, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:Uh... can I simply say that this whole bologna/baloney controversy began with an incorrect assumption that "baloney" is not an acceptable spelling of the meat many call "bologna"? With many respected lexicons agreeing on its acceptance, thereby setting that incorrect assumption aside, there's no purpose in formulating an excuse for the use of the spelling we are using. We're using good American English, and we have no need to fear we're being imprecise or uncivilized, or to otherwise feel bad about it.
::Well ''I'' feel guilty ;) {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

==Strong Bad on the Airplane==
Did anybody notice that Strongbad didn't move with the plane? Should we put this under goofs?
:I don't think it was a goof; I think it was an intentional choice on the part TBC. They probably thought it would look better if SB wasn't jiggling the whole time he was talking. Also, cartoons don't necessarily have to obey physics. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Is it worth noting that on the video StrongBad recorded, he doesn't appear to be actually wearing a parachute -- just a helmet? -- Catgirl
:I think both the above statements deserve to be in remarks at least. {{User:NFITC1/sig}}

==Topiary==
Who is that man in the topiary garden? It doesn't look anything like the bust of [[Van Buren]]... Rogue mentioned Shakespere in IRC, and it bears a resemblance... what do people think? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 15:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:I think it might just be Shakespere.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 16:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::I gotta agree with H*Bad. Shakespeare is who I immediately thought of when I saw that. [[User:Ramrod|Ramrod]] 16:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I, too, thought of the Bard of Avon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::One more vote for Shakespeare... that's why come he's so awesome. [[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:::::I thought it was Bach when I first saw it, and since Bach is referenced in the same scene (Rockin' with Bach), it seems to make sense.[[user:AndrewS|AndrewS]]
::::::It's definitely Shakespeare. Bach was always depicted with a full wig and no facial hair, whereas the most famous portrait of Old Billie has him balding with medium-long hair and a Van Dyke. And the earring. [[User:Catgirl|Catgirl]]

== Chaps upgrade to Flash 8? ==

They've said before that they still use Flash 5 (or was it Flash MX, I forget). But this eppisode used alot more blurred objects then usual (in the plane, the blades of grass the camera records and the quick zoom in on h*) and bluring is a new feature added to Flash 8 (Chaps have previously used photoshop to do this). I'm working on importing the flash file into my Flash 8, I'll see if that has any clues. --John

No, it's still made in 7. They just used images I guess. --B14Z3

:Well, I don't know 'bout you, but my copy of Flash 7 can blur stuff. It can also addd accurate shadows, made explosions, and somethin' else I can't remember. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
::They said they use Flash 5 though, not 7 or 8. {{User:Dagger/sig}} 05:35, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

== Doin' that thing you do ==
The lyric referring to "our bass player" reminds me of ''[[IMDb:tt0117887|That Thing You Do!]]'', where the bass guitarist had no other name than T(he) B(ass) Player. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Heh, thats true.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 17:02, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Actually TBC are most likely referring to the fact that bass players are generally un-notested

== "The part with the narwhal?" ==

At least, I think SB said Narwhal. You don't get that many of them in midair, but I'd imagine one of the celebrities had brought one along.
:There were no celebrities.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 19:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps a reference to Hitchhiker's Guide? It's far too subtle for me to add it, though someone braver might include it. At least it should die in STUFF.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 19:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::That was a sperm whale, though, not a narwhal. It's probably just cause narwhals are so cool. :)[[User:Trelawney|Trelawney]]
:::Not to metion the marked lack of a Bowl of Petunias. [[User:Geshmalderborgen|Geshmalder]] 01:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
::::I dunno, narwhals seem to have a habit of [http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/penguincalls coming out of nowhere] in the world of Macromedia Flash (see #9, although it's better to watch them in order). It wouldn't surprise me at all to have one pop up midair in Free Country USA. --{{User:Soapergem/sig}} 04:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:::::It should be noted that the "Penguin Calls" flash you just linked to was made by the same person--drewmo--that did the Narwhal Diving game, which the toon appears to reference. Everything's connected. ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 05:27, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Homsars hat flying off... ==
...and then coming back, reminds me of the parts from Airplane! when one of the characters tossed their jacket and it came back to him.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 18:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, I think the sae thing happened with a hat too. I love that movie.... {{User:Salty/sig}} 18:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Homsar's hat comes back to him all the time. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 18:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::Maybe its something that the Chapmans took from the movie.--{{User:H*bad/sig}} 19:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I just thinks that he threw it around the world, so naturally it came back to him. Homsar would do that kind of thing. --{{User:Homfrog/sig}} 22:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Or it simply flew around behind the viewer. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:29, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
:It should be pointed out that in the movie, the hat and jacket came back from the direction he threw them, as if someone tossed them back, not from the opposite direstion, which is what Homsar's hat did.-[[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 03:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Did anyone notice... ==
The audio levels in this tune were kinda subpar. I suppose it might be my computer, god knows my speakers are dying, but I've watched every toon on the site and I've never had problems understanding as much dialogue as this one. The Cheat and Strong Mad were playing so loudly I couldn't hear Marzy...
Oh, and Homestar's eyes looked kinda small in his sleepyhead outfit, didn't they?

== Blogs? ==

Did it sound to anyone else like Strong Bad said "ladies' blogs", not "latest blogs"? [[User:SA2Tails|SA2Tails]] 03:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:I thought so at first too, but on a re-listen it was pretty clearly "latest" to me. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 04:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
::I myself heard "latest blogs". {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
:::I heard "latest blogs" but that's probably because I didn't know there was such thing as a vlog until I read this hrwiki article. I guess vlogs would make more sense though, considering Strong bad is (or at least thinks he is) taping the event on video. --[[User:Chupaqueso|Chupaqueso]] 17:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:I heard "ladies' blogs" when I first watched it and was actually surprised to see it transcribed as "latest blogs" here. Personally, I think he was saying "ladies" but it sounded similar to "latest" because of that Strong Badian pseudo-Mexican accent we've all come to know and love. Besides, given his constant and hopeless obsession with attempting to impress "the ladies", it would be a very much in-character thing for him to say. [[User:Beatfox|Beatfox]] 05:33, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

== Vlog or Blog? ==

Is it vlog or blog in the transcript? The real-world refernces say about vlogs... [[User:JudgeDeadd|JudgeDeadd]] 09:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Homestar's Eyes ==

Did anybody else notice that Homestar's eyes were flipped during his "sleepy" mode? - {{User:Super Sonic X/Sig}} 13:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
:It happened in [[Biz Cas Fri 3]], too. [[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 20:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Rival camps ==

Right now we have the following real-world reference:
*Athletic competitions between summer camps occupying the same campground are common in family movies and cartoons.
Could someone add a well-known example to this fact; I can't think of one offhand. Thanks, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:55, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

The movie Heavyweights is a good example of this
-TheDensel

I just added "Heavyweights" (didn't see TheDensel's comment) and "Meatballs" to the fact. [[User:69.217.59.140|69.217.59.140]] 16:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Goofs ==
First of all, weclome? (it's spelled wrong) That's on purpose, right? It doesn't really seem to stand out, and it seems like if it was on purpose, TBC would make it stand out more. Second, strongbad doesn't wiggle with the plane. Should we add these?
:I think both are intentional: the former has [[Unusual_Greetings#Weclome|its own page]], and see [[Talk:Weclome Back#Strong Bad on the Airplane|my comments on the latter]]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 14:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

==Arm length and head position goof?==
When Strong Bad is turning on his camera in the plane, his arm is abnormally long (stretchy??), also his head is in "front" of his laptop's screen. A few frames later he pulls his head back behind the screen (where we'd normally see it) -- it almost looks as if his head just passed through the laptop. [[User:75.26.2.227|75.26.2.227]] 19:19, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

== Westerburg/berg ==

"Burg" is the german word for "Castle", while "Berg" is for "Mount(ain)". Both are very common suffixes for german town names as well. Coincidence?

== TBC Vacation ==

I have a feeling that the reason why the site didn't update much is because TBC went on vacation? This cartoon sounds like a way of telling everyone. Oh, and please don't remove this comment again. It ticks me off. [[User:King Cheesia|King Cheesia]]
:I'm sorry to hear that. You see, your comment doesn't really belong here: it doesn't have anything to do with the content of the ''article'' about this toon, which is what this talk page is for. On the other hand, there is a [[Forum:8992|forum thread]] specifically for opinions and chatter about the toon itself. Also, this is kind of already mentioned in the [[Weclome Back#Explanations|Explanations]] section. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

==Island trivia==
Do we really know for a fact that "The island is used in this toon because in the DVD commentary on Strong Bad Email island, Matt said they should use the island again"? Sounds like hearsay to me. It could just as easily be based on a whim, or that it's the only previously seen beach for one to drive to. - (Random Nitpicky Person) 23:31, 4 July 2006 (EST)
:Hasn't it been reused since that commentary anyway? Was it in [[disconnected]]? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Baloney Sammich Truck==
[[Image:Baloneytruck.PNG|thumb|Like magic?]]
Can someone upload a picture of that beach scene? Specifically when Bubs says "You shut your face" to the atari seagul?-[[User:68.113.192.114|68.113.192.114]] 03:53, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:C'n I ask why? I mean, I'll do it an' everything, but I wanna know what it's for. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Already on it. Here you go: {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

== Narwhal is a reference to AKA Driver... ''how'' exactly? ==

How is Narwhal Diving a reference to AKA Driver? I've looked up the lyrics for said song and there's not a single line in the song mentioning narwhals. In addition, drewmo (the author of Narwhal Diving) has posted in the forum topic for Weclome Back, saying he's never heard AKA Driver. I'd say we have reasonable doubt here... ~ [[User:Bruce|Bruce]] 05:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:I agree. Other than "Narwhal Diver" and "NyQuil Driver" sounding alike, there's nothing. --[[User:4.159.116.75|4.159.116.75]] 18:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:Fair enough. The similarity in name seemed more than coincidental to me, but I guess not.

== I'm with gluten/stupid ==
Strong Sad's "I'm with gluten" t-shirt seems to be a reference to the "I'm with stupid" t-shirts, which I think were popular in the eighties. Might be something more to it, though.[[User:Old Timey Me|Old Timey Me]] 03:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
:It almost certainly is, but I think that'd be explaining the joke, which we avoid. Unless most viewers wouldn't get the reference, such a joke-explaining comment talks down to the reader, and we avoid them. Of course, it being an obvious joke is merely my opinion, I may be wrong. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
::I think it's worth a shot — I hadn't noticed it, even though I'm familiar with the "stupid" shirts. And I'm sure there's a healthy portion of people who haven't seen the shirt. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 04:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

==Homestar Running Gag==
Isnt it a Running Gag with Homestar to announce something, then immidietly ask what he is hearing about so-and-so happening (Sleeping through June, not bringing Donuts, and from the Marzipan Answering machine, hearing about this Boyfriend Dan)
:Well, if it happens any more it will be notable. But what would you title a page like this? {{User:Salty/sig}} 06:47, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

==Bubs' Voice==
A lot of the characters' voices have been more and more pronounced lately. I noticed this with Strong Bad, and for example in Weclome Back, Bubs' voice sounds very Limozeen-y, and less Bubs-y. It's a little irritating. Did anyone else notice this? [[User:Quite|Quite]] 23:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

== Toot sweet/tout de suite? ==

Near the beginning, I thought Marzipan's response to Bubs' question about her vacation was that it was "toot sweet" a reference to a song in the movie Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. (sign your posts)
:See [[Template:STUFF/Weclome Back|STUFF]]. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

==Trogdor Filmography?==
[[Trogdor]] appears in this toon, albeit in topiary garden form. Does this count as an "appearance" worthy of adding this article to the [[:Category:Trogdor Filmography|Trogdor Filmography Category]]? --[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/User:The_Homestrongzipansadcheatsmith http://www.hrwiki.org/images/3/3b/The_homestrongzipansadcheatsmith2.PNG] [[User talk:The Homestrongzipansadcheatsmith|Tlk]]/[[Special:Contributions/The_Homestrongzipansadcheatsmith|Cnt]] 19:59, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
:We've added characters to their filmography categories for similar things before (for example, [[Homsar]]'s appearance in [[stupid stuff]]). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== Pom Pom Eyes ==

At the ending part, did anyone else think that Pom Pom's eyes were too far apart? --{{User:Fizz123/sig}}
:Perhaps, but isn't it a little bit extreme to be analyzing the distance between Pom Pom's eyes? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:44, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
::It just looked unnatural... --{{User:Fizz123/sig}}
:::It ''did'' look a little off, but he was facing right at the camera, which is also unusual... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::I always figured that like his appendages, his other features can just kind of float around to an extent. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:38, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

== Light in the Leftovers ==

Is there a way to compare this phrase with "Light in the loafers" without offending people? Or should I not bother.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 22:30, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

:This has already been dealt with; the decision seems to be "don't point it out." --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 22:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

::It's highly unlikely that Homsar meant anything related to sexuality by saying the phrase, and nothing else in the scene suggests or even hints at a sexual theme. Therefore, the connection between "leftovers" and "loafers" must just be a coincidence, and Homsar was referring to something else. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Actually, most of what Homsar says (with the exception of that message he left for Marzipan) means nothing at all, and is not related to anything. I think it is a play of "light in the loafers", but since we have little kids here, this one (like [[senior prom|David Coppafeel]]) can slide. --[[HRFWiki:User:The Mu|Da M-izz-u]][[HRFWiki:User talk:The Mu|Tizzalk]] 22:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

::::[[Analysis of Homsar's Speech Patterns|This article might interest you...]] {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:07, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

== Closed STUFF ==

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== Commonly misunderstood Coach ===
{{stufffact|Coach Z's line about "Glorten" Camp echoes a similar line from him in [[mascot]]. There, he refers to the same entity in two different ways, and here, he refers to two different entities in the same way.}}
{{stuffverdict|06:43, 4 July 2006 (UTC)|17:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC)|declined|17|10|Weclome Back}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}
=== Whistling candy ===
{{stufffact|"Toot sweet" is a play on the French phrase ''"tout de suite"'' (which translates to "immediately" or "at once"). Both phrases are pronounced roughly the same.}}
{{stuffverdict|23:08, 3 July 2006 (UTC)|04:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|23|3|Weclome Back}}

Strong Bad

2006-05-09T21:43:07Z

Michelle Mabelle:

{{charnav|Strong Bad|sb|Homestar Runner|The Cheat}}
[[Image:MontageStrongBad.png|thumb|"Check me out! No, seriously, check me out."]]
== Biography ==

'''Strong Bad''' is one of the most well-known characters on [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|Homestarrunner.com]]. He started out as the villain who always tried to cheat his way to the top but was always doomed to fail before [[Homestar Runner]]; however, he's now less of a villain and more of a highly expanded form of comic relief, with his irascible sarcasm and rough voice seeming to make him ever more popular with fans of the website. He answers [[Strong Bad Email|e-mails]] with a passion, and will [[Poorly Written Emails|make fun]] of your grammar, punctuation, and spelling - he just doesn't seem to be worried about [[Strong Bad's Spelling|his own]]. He also writes, illustrates, and narrates the [[Teen Girl Squad]] comics.

He is the middle child of [[The Brothers Strong]]. His is the dominant personality and he loves to push everyone around: he's often abusing Homestar, [[Kicking The Cheat|kicking]] [[The Cheat]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine|prank-calling]] [[Marzipan]], or [[Strong Bad Hurting Strong Sad|tormenting]] Strong Sad (although it's been hinted that they [[The Secrets That I Keep|got along]] when they were younger). All in all, he seems to dislike or positively loathe almost every character in the Homestar Runner Universe, with the notable exception of The Cheat, his ever-diligent lackey.

He has boxing gloves for hands (which always have square window reflections on them, no matter where he is), and a [[Wikipedia:Lucha libre|lucha libre]] mask for a head (as confirmed in the [[UMFM Interview - 20 May 2003|UMFM interview]]). His mouth is rectangular, though it often becomes round when he says words with the letter "o". Most of the time, Strong Bad's mouth is in a slight frown, but there are occasions where he [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]]. The blue diamond on his face may also give him the power to mentally open [[Cold One]]s and even pop Homestar's hat off his head; however this seems to have been abandoned, as it was only demonstrated in [[super powers]]. Strong Bad may also have a Homestar-like telekinesis as demonstrated in the Holiday special [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]]. Strong Bad owns his own country, [[Strong Badia]], a barren field behind the [[Wikipedia:Dumpster|dumpsters]] that is completely devoid of any sentient life. His favorite saying is (or was for a time) "[[Crap|holy crap]]", though he hates when people use the word crap when [[Crapfully Yours|signing emails]]. He also hates to be asked about [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?|how he manages to type with boxing gloves on]]. He usually does what he does best when he gets an e-mail like that: '''[[DELETED|DELETED!!!]]'''

Strong Bad talks a big line, claiming to be a criminal mastermind, a [[Exaggerated Strong Bad|muscle man]], and totally popular with the [[Strong Bad's Ladies|ladies]], though there is little evidence of any of these claims, and no shortage of evidence that they are all untrue. Strong Bad refuses to acknowledge this however, and continues unfazed with his delusions of grandeur. He is convinced that Marzipan likes, or has a crush on, him when in fact she "[[marzipan|really doesn't like him at all]]." He seems to have a grudge against [[The Birds|birds]], as shown in issues of [[Teen Girl Squad]]. He also loves to listen to [[Limozeen]], [[Taranchula]], and [[Wikipedia:Peter Frampton|Peter Frampton]] (though his opinion of Frampton is somewhat mixed). His favorite show is [[Caleb Rentpayer]]. He also enjoys doing Jumble puzzles and baking. His love for [[Strong Bad's Technology|older technology]] such as cassette tapes, command prompt computers, old video games and laserdiscs, and the titles of events such as "[[monster truck|Awexome Cross '98]]", and "[[TrogdorCon '97]]" suggest that Strong Bad is "stuck in the 90's". Despite his love of the nineties, he seems to despise and destroy anything from any previous decade, like [[Wikipedia:8-track cartridge|8-Tracks]], TVs that lost their essence in the 70s, and the [[Wikipedia:Nintendo Entertainment System|Nintendo Entertainment System]].

[[Image:Baby strong bad.png|thumb|Pretending to play better video games.]]
Strong Bad has sung many hit singles, his most popular being "[[Everybody to the Limit]]". He also stars as the protagonist in the blockbuster action series "[[Dangeresque]]". He works with Homestar and The Cheat at an [[The Office|unnamed tech company]], though despite this fixed income, he seems to have financial troubles as he often attempts money making solutions of questionable legitimacy and burns his bills with his [[BMW Lighter]].

Strong Bad is somewhat prejudiced; he has been [[sb_email 22|banned from the UK]], and often [[little questions|ridicules non-English speakers]] on their e-mails. He also hates old people and children, although he claims to have children of his own, including Jeffrey Beffrey Mudgeman, at his second secret home where he goes by the name Vance Mudgeman. He doesn't appear to care much for those children either, or perhaps he does and truly believes that "you got to be firm."

*'''Domicile:''' [[House of the Brothers Strong]]
*'''Debut:''' [[Original Book|"The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest"]]
*[[:Category:Strong Bad Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

== Character Video Transcript ==
''{'''Page Title:''' Get ready for the new!}'' ''{'''Place:''' [[Strong Badia]]}''

''{Strong Bad is seen standing next to several cardboard props, including one of Homestar Runner with a snake wrapped around his head. He is moving some of the props around.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Hold on, I'm not done with the props yet! ''{turns to camera}'' Greetings, party people in the place to be! I am called Strong Bad! Hand over all your moneys in a paper and/or plastic bag! Ladies, form a line to my left for makeouts! Dudes, form a line to my right for high fives! Like I said, I'm Strong Bad. I've been described as cool, awesome, hot, video games, the hottest, and real real hot. Me and my big brother and our The Cheat pretty much run the show around here, as well as serve as a sort of multi-purpose criminal element. Yeah, we got a lot of—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Ahe-he-hem.

'''STRONG BAD''': What are you doing here?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Well, I was gonna get a high five, but, I see that I'm already here. And with a snake on my head!

'''STRONG BAD''': Yeah, that's right. So I'm gonna have to charge you double. You know, since you're both here.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': That sounds reasonable! ''{pronounces it re-ZON-able}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Okay, I only accept gold nuggets. Or maybe Denver Nuggets. ...Whatever you got on ya. Chicken nuggets.

== Strength ==

There is highly conflicting evidence towards Strong Bad's supposed strength. For the most part, it was continuously implied that Strong Bad is actually very weak and out of shape and that "Strong Bad" was merely his name and not an accurate description. But in the Strong Bad Emails "[[car]]", "[[old comics]]", and "[[secret identity]]", Strong Bad demonstrates the ability to punch Homestar's lights out and literally toss both him and The King of Town out of his house, thus condradicting this claim. He can also easily pick up and carry the 42-pound [[Lappy 486]] with ease. However, In the email "[[lady fan]]", the idea of Strong Bad being a weakling is supported yet again when he is unable to do a single push-up, and states that he used to be able to do four. It is possible that, like Homestar's "[[Lack of Visible Arms|arms]]", this fact may be purposely ambiguous, or that Strong Bad really is a complete weakling. He has [[Kicking The Cheat|kicked The Cheat]] quite a few times, but it is unknown exactly how much The Cheat weighs or how far Strong Bad kicked him, so it is debatable whether this factors into his strength or not.

== Fun Facts ==
*"Party peoples in the place to be!" is a reference to an [[Wikipedia:Ultramagnetic MC|Ultramagnetic MC]] song called "Ego Trippin'", during which before the song, the announcer says, "party peoples in the place to be! Just for you, it's the Ultramagnetic MCs!"
*The [http://www.nba.com/nuggets/ Denver Nuggets] are a professional [[Wikipedia:National Basketball Association|NBA]] basketball team.
*Strong Bad and Strong Mad, and their original role as tag team wrestlers, came from the Nintendo video game [[Wikipedia:Tag Team Wrestling|Tag Team Wrestling]] created by Data East U.S.A. in 1986. In this game, one of the teams is called "The Strong Bads".
*Apparently, Strong Bad is able to survive, stand up, and even talk, with a hole blasted in his head, as shown in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] and the email [[lady...ing]].
*Strong Bad has never closed his eyes completely, even when he is sleeping.
*He also has never completely closed his mouth, and he apparently has a green tongue.
*Strong Bad was originally conceived as a masked wrestler because in their childhood, The Brothers Chaps viewed masked wrestlers as the embodiment of evil, making them an ideal choice for an antagonist.
*As seen by [[Lil' Strong Bad]] and in [[highschool]], his head seems to get more oval-shaped as he grows older.

== Also known as... ==
[[Image:puppetstrongbad.png|thumb|[[Puppet Stuff|Puppet]] Strong Bad]]
*[[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] ([[Old-Timey]])
*[[Stinkoman]] ([[20X6]])
*[[Archibald]] ([[A Decemberween Pageant]])
*[[Keyboard Strong Bad]] ([[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]])
*[[Tiny-Handed Strong Bad]]
*[[Dangeresque (character)| Dangeresque]]
*[[Lil' Strong Bad]]
*[[Strong Badman]]
*[[Atari Strong Bad]]
*[[Vector Strong Bad]]
*[[Tragic Clown Dog]]
*[[Wrestleman]]
*[[Made-Up Strong Bad Animals]]
*[[Sterrance]]
*[[Teenage Variation#Teenage Strong Bad|Teenage Strong Bad]]
*[[Crazy_Go_Nuts_University|Prinicpal]] Strong Bad
*[[The Strong Badian Administration of Some Aluminum Foil|First Lieuteneral Space Captainface]] ([[space program]])
*[[Free_Petry_Dish,_USA_Variation#Strongbadiophage|Strongbadiophage]] ([[highschool]])
*Tip Tappers, Expensive Briefcase Carrier ([[secret identity]])
*Vance Mudgeman (secret identity)
*[[Scarfgirl|Cara Carabowditbowdit]] (secret identity)
*[[Head Bad and Strong Body]] ([[disconnected]])


=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===
*[[Wikipedia:Carmen Miranda|Carmen Miranda]] in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*[[Wikipedia:Carmen Sandiego|Carmen Sandiego]] in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*Homestar as [[Wikipedia:Angus Young|Angus Young]] in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*Ozone (from the movie [[imdb:tt0086998|Breakin']]) in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*[[Wikipedia:Cesar Romero|Cesar Romero]] as [[Wikipedia:Joker (comics)|The Joker]] in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*Jambi the Genie from [[Wikipedia:Pee-wee's Playhouse|Pee-wee's Playhouse]] in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]

== See Also ==
*[[Strong Bad Evolution]]
*[[Strong Bad Other Costumes|Other Costumes]]
*[[Nicknames#Strong Bad|Nicknames]]
*[[Senor Cardgage]]
*[[Strong Bad Lore]]

 
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*The SBLOUNSKCHED! Bar jingle ([[candy product]], [[HR:weeklies/sblounskched.mp3|download]])
*"Oh, if you want it to be possessive it's just 'its,' but if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's I-T apostrophe S! ...scalawag." ([[local news]], [[Mirror:sb_itsits.mp3|download]])
*"What?! ''[[Wikipedia:Under Siege 2: Dark Territory|Under Siege 2]]''?? You got me this for like the last 3 years, man!" ([[The Best Decemberween Ever]] outtake, [[Mirror:sb_undersiege2.mp3|download]])
*"The Cheatbot! Do you use that same mouth to kiss your... motherboard." ([[technology]] outtake, [[Mirror:sb_motherboard.mp3|download]])
*"They flew on a sweet, sweet mushroom bridge to the...baseball...game." ([[flashback]] outtake, [[Mirror:sb_baseballgame.mp3|download]])
*"Oh! Very mean things...to say. Funny also, too." (QotW exclusive, [[Mirror:sb_verymean.mp3|download]])
*The "Strong Bad is a Bad Guy" song. ([[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]], [[Mirror:badguy.mp3|download]])
*As [[Reynold]]: "Oh, I really need to go grocery shopping. I wish my girlfriend didn't leave me." ([[Cheat Commandos (toon)|Cheat Commandos]], [[Mirror:reynold_groceries.mp3|download]])
*"You bet! Hit me on the slant!" ([[Senorial Day]], [[Mirror:sb_hitmeontheslant.mp3|download]])
*"Naw, it can't be heaven. There's not enough [[Wikipedia:Twinkies|Twinkies]]." ([[Where the Crap Are We?]], [[Mirror:sb_twinkies.mp3|download]])
*"I'm on a RAMPAGE!!" ([[rampage]], [[Mirror:sb_rampage.mp3|download]])
*Imitating the [[Lappy 486]] startup noise: "Dong DIIING!!!" ([[animal]], [[Mirror:sb_dongdling.mp3|download]])
*"Oh. Why do you...guys...like me anymore. I—I've lost it!" ([[origins]] outtake, [[Mirror:sb_ivelostit.mp3|download]])
*"Everyone is different. No two people are not on fire. Awww." ([[kids' book]], [[Mirror:sb_no2people.mp3|download]])
*"I doh du duoh [[Crapfully Yours|crapfully yours]]. ID DO DU DUOH CRAPFULLY YOURS!" ([[virus]], [[Mirror:qod_sb_crapfullyours.mp3|download]])
*Sings the "You're a Girl" song ([[montage]], [[Mirror:youreagirl.zip|download]])
*"And I'll just erase it using my... electron... towel." ([[haircut]] outtake, [[Mirror:sb_lightrag.mp3|download]])
*'''With [[Homestar Runner]]''': "Looks like we're gonna have to jump!" ([[dangeresque 3]], [[Mirror:sbhs_havetojump.zip|download]])
*''{click}'' "Don't forget to experience the fury of our gift shooop." ''{click}'' ([[theme park]], [[Mirror:sb_giftshop.zip|download]])
*'''As [[Li'l Brudder]]''': "I can make it on my own!" ([[crying]], [[Mirror:sb_brudder.zip|download]])
*"Strong Bad did a jig while holding all the grapes, and [[The Cheat]] learned to fly!" ([[kids' book]] Easter egg [[strongbad_email.exe|DVD version]], [[Mirror:sb_jig.mp3|download]])
*"Ah, the self-proclaimed King of Town. Like you aren't an easy jab for my witty glivers and put-dubs." ([[labor day]] outtake, [[Mirror:sb_kingmessup.mp3|download]])
*"Jeez, The Cheat, you can't sneak up on a brotha like that!" ([[privileges]], [[Mirror:sb_sneakup.mp3|download]])
*"Possums!" ([[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]], [[Mirror:sb_possums.mp3|download]])
*"Why you lazy crap for crap!" ([[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], [[Mirror:sb_crap4crap.mp3|download]])
*"This is the quote of the day!" (QotW exclusive, [[Mirror:sb_qod.mp3|download]])
*"You guys, that was a pretty good one." (QotW exclusive, [[Mirror:sb_fart.mp3|download]])
*"Check me out! No, seriously, check me out." (A la [[First Time Here?]], [[Mirror:sb_checkme2.mp3|download]])
*The Strong Bad Show theme song. (QotW exclusive, [[Mirror:sb_sbshow.mp3|download]])
*"Okay, now I got to bust a wicked solo. ''{a crappy acoustic guitar solo is played}'' Thank you, goodnight!" ([[vacation]], [[Mirror:sb_wickedsolo.mp3|download]])
*'''Strong Bad:''' "It's that cloc—"
:'''[[Mike Chapman]]:''' "Sorry." ([[vacation]] outtake, [[Mirror:sb_clockmessup.mp3|download]])
*"Pretty impressive, huh? I bet you're pretty impressed." ([[Homestar Quiz]], [[Mirror:sb_impressive.mp3|download]])
*"I am the very strongest. You guys are not very strong." ([[Original Book|original book]] line, [[Mirror:sb_strongest.mp3|download]])
*"Matt Equals MATT!!" ([[50 emails]])
|}

== External Links ==
*[[HR:vcr_sb.html|watch Strong Bad's character video]]
*[[HR:vcr_sb.swf|view the Flash file for Strong Bad's character video]]
*[mailto:strongbad@homestarrunner.com Email Strong Bad]

{{Characters|Strong Bad}}
[[Category:Strong Badia]]

Homestarloween Party

2006-05-06T21:25:07Z

Michelle Mabelle: /* Trivia */

{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|homestarloween|Happy Trogday|A Holiday Greeting}}
[[Image:homestarloween.PNG|thumb|Strong Sad's take on the tale]]

Homestar Runner throws a Halloween party. They take turns telling a story about a goblin.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|The Goblin}}, [[Pom Pom's girls]], [[Visor Robot]], {{Film|The Sad Kids}}

See [[Homestarloween Party Costumes]] for more information on what everyone was wearing.

'''Places:''' [[Spooky Forest]]

'''Date:''' 2000

'''Running Time:''' 4:55

'''Page Title:''' Homestarloween Party
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== Transcript ==

'''COACH Z:''' Oh jeez, I don't know, I think I prefer his work with the Furious 5 much more. Uh, he had more street cred back then...

''{Homestar walks by, and continues to do so throughout the scene.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, thanks for coming to my party guys. Ahh, Coach Z is down with the PE! ''{Coach Z dances to Homestar's second remark.}''

''{Switch to Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ...ya know, I think it turned out pretty good. I mean Mom helped me do the fruit ''{gestures to hat}'', and I did the sewing—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, lookin' good Strong Bad. The Chiquita Banana lady, that's great!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooh, Chiquita Ba—?! ''{shouting}'' For the last time, I'm Carmen freakin' Miranda!

''{Switch to Marzipan, Strong Sad, Pom Pom and The Poopsmith, who is bobbing for pumpkins. He picks up a pumpkin and spits it into the bucket twice.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yesterday, I was out in the garden, and I was weeding, and there was this little worm...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Aww, everybody looks so great! ''{stops walking}'' You know, there's more punch over there, if anybody... wants any. All riiiiiight, everybody! Line up! ''{holds up flashlight}'' We're gonna play ''{clicks flashlight on and off}'' Flashlight Ghost Storytelling with a Flashliiight. ''{thunder booms}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' We should stand boy-girl-boy-girl. ''{thunder booms, organ sting}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Good one, Marzipan! That way we know it's fair!

'''MARZIPAN:''' I get to stand next to you, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Nope. I'm standin' next to Bubs. You get to stand next to Strong Baaad. ''{walks away}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{gasps}'' Uh!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Psst! ''{whispering}'' Hey, Marzipan... is my slip showing?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Okay, okay, okay! I'll go first.

''(A circle forms around him so his picture is now an inset of a new scene.)''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Umm... okay! Once, there was this green gobliiiin... ''{a goblin appears}'' and um, he used to... look aroooound... ''{the goblin looks around}'' And um, I guess he did a daaance. ''{the goblin dances}'' Oh man, that was terrible.

''{Homestar passes the flashlight to Bubs.}''

'''BUBS:''' And, the goblin, he had a Gremlin! And he jacked it up on some fat tires, and uh, and he tuned it up on some 4.11 positrak outback 750 double pumper edelbrock intake, 4 over 30 11-to-1 pop-up pistons turbo jets 390 horsepower! I mean, he had some freakin' muscle!

''{Bubs passes the flashlight to Pom Pom}''

'''POM POM:''' ''{Pom Pom makes bubbling noises throughout his segment.}''

''{A giggling blonde girl in a pink bikini with a Pom head appears next to the Gremlin, as well as a redhead with a blue bikini and a brunette in a leopard-pattern bikini, followed by beer and sports paraphernalia. Pom Pom passes the flashlight to Marzipan.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' One of the girls had a cute little kitten named Kitty-kitty.

''{A cat appears beside the girl on the left.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' The other girl had a cute little puppy named Chris.

''{A dog appears beside the girl on the right.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' And then the third girl was a Republican.

''{A Republican Party Elephant sign appears in the hand of the girl on the Gremlin.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, brother! Gimme that! ''{snatches the flashlight from Marzipan}'' So then the robot came—

''{The Visor Robot appears onscreen, to the right.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' —and he started vaporizing everybody with his vapor-sound! ''{Robot begins doing just that}'' And he was like "You take this, and you'd better, you, and you take this, everybody's gonna die!" And then he said, "Oh, the Gremlin! I hate the Goblin Gremlin! Bah!"

''{The Robot picks up the Gremlin and heaves it across the place where it is not visible anymore.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I need to get some more punch.

''{Strong Bad passes the flashlight to the King of Town and walks off}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Oooh, oooh!

''{The Visor Robot and Goblin stand across from each other and all the food appears that the KOT mentions in between them.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' And there was fried fish and heavenly ham and Salisbury sundaes and globs of meringue and strawberry frosted donuts and bowls full of jelly and Klondike pudding and scrumptious fillers... and—DOO! DOO-HOO-HOO-HOO-HOO!

''{All the food inexplicably disappears. The King passes the flashlight to Strong Sad and hurries off.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' And so it turns out the Robot had a human brain which was stolen from a kindly old man. And the children of that old man came to the Robot looking for their father, and they called out to him.

''{Speech bubble with an exclamation point in it appears on the girl.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' And the Robot's human brain remembered his children and his stolen life, and he was moved to tears. ''{Robot starts to cry.}'' But the tears shorted out his circuits, and fried his brain. ''{Electric bolts appear on the robot's head}'' And the Robot toppled over, and he crushed his children, and the Goblin, too. ''{Robot falls on them and his brain comes out.}'' And none of them lived.

''{cut to Bubs, Coach Z, and The King of Town crying.}''

'''COACH Z:''' ''{crying}'' Oh, jeez, what a total downer! ''{they walk away, still crying}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh man, I'm outta here!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{crying}'' That's the saddest story I've ever heard! You can't come to next year's party.

''{Marzipan walks away crying, while The Poopsmith sighs deeply and also walks away.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{sadly}'' Gee... thanks for coming to my party, Strong Sad. ''{sighs, walks away.}''

''{Everyone except Strong Sad leaves, and crickets start chirping. An owl hoots and a far-off dog howls. Strong Sad clicks the flashlight on and off a few times, then the screen fades.}''

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This is the first cartoon where any of the characters admit ever having a mom, when Strong Bad admits that his mom helped him with his costume. If you want to get ''really'' technical, though, the short-lived [[Yearbook Character Page]] was actually the first admission of parental leadership.
*With nine deaths, this cartoon has a higher body count than any other cartoon on the website, including [[Teen Girl Squad]].
*This is the only time we've seen Coach Z with a full complement of fingers.
*Marzipan suggests they should line up boy-girl-boy-girl. She is the only girl, making this difficult. Strong Bad crossdressing could allow him to be considered a girl, but if so he shouldn't stand next to Marzipan.
*Strong Mad, The Cheat, The Poopsmith, and Coach Z never contributed to the ghost story, but the Poopsmith probably doesn't contribute to the story on purpose, courtesy of his vow of silence.
*This toon was "Written, drawn, and directed by Matt, Mike, and Craig". This is most likely [[Craig Zobel]].
*According to [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]], the spooky trees in the background are just next to [[Bubs' Concession Stand]].
*Coach Z's clock reads 4:57.

===Goofs===
*The birthmark on Strong Sad as [[Wikipedia:Mikhail Gorbachev|Gorbachev]] is on the wrong side of his head.
*When Homestar turns the flashlight on and off for Flashlight Ghost Storytelling with a Flashlight, his face isn't illuminated any better, so much as the rest of his body is cast into shadow.
*When Strong Sad turns the flash light on & off at the end, his hands didn't move.

===Inside References===
*The dog "Chris" looks suspiciously like [[Rejected Characters#Trivia Time|Trivia Time]].

===Real World References===
*Bubs' description of the Gremlin is [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106677/quotes quoted] directly from the movie ''[[IMDB:tt0106677|Dazed And Confused]]''.
*The [[Wikipedia:flux capacitor|flux capacitor]] visible on the Gremlin is a reference to the ''[[IMDB:tt0088763|Back to the Future]]'' movies.
*Strong Sad turning the flashlight on and off is possibly an homage to the movie ''[[imdb:tt0111149|Shallow Grave]]'', in which Christopher Eccleston's character turns a flashlight on and off into his face while spiralling into insanity.
*Homestar's shirt says "corporate rock still sucks", which is the motto of [[Wikipedia:SST Records|SST Records]], a favorite record label of Cobain's. Cobain once wore a shirt parodying the slogan on a famous [[Wikipedia:Rolling Stone|Rolling Stone]] [http://i.rollingstone.com/assets/rs/110/76/images/23060_lg.jpg cover] saying "Corporate Magazines still suck". Also, his shoes look a lot like [[Wikipedia:Converse Shoes|Converse]], which the video for [[Wikipedia:Smells Like Teen Spirit|Smells Like Teen Spirit]] helped to repopularize.
**It's also possibly a nod to certain ''[http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/TSHIRTS/NV204.jpg Nirvana sweaters]''
*Homestar's line "Coach Z is down with the PE" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Public Enemy|Public Enemy]] song "Burn Hollywood Burn", wherein guest-rapper [[Wikipedia:Ice Cube|Ice Cube]] raps "Ice Cube is down with the PE".
**This could be a play on words; PE could also stand for physical education, as Coach Z is indeed a coach.
*The bear The Cheat has is Pooky, Garfield's teddy bear.

===Fast Forward===

*Marzipan's line, "You can't come to next year's party," was revisited in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], when Marzipan said, "I like your costume, Strong Sad, but you weren't invited this year."
*The music that was used for the Flashlight Ghost Storytelling Using a Flashlight was used again in The House That Gave Sucky Treats and the Strong Bad e-mail [[theme park]] during "Strong Sad's Stunt Spooktacular".
*A slight variation of Homestar's "Corporate Rock Still Sucks" (the motto of SST Records) shirt was worn by Strong Sad in [[geddup noise]], which said "Corporate The Geddup Noise Still Sucks".
*This movie was the first appearance of the [[Gremlin]], which later has reappeared in several movies, among them [[Where's The Cheat?]] and the Strong Bad e-mail [[dangeresque 3]].

== See Also ==
* [[Egg Throwing Game]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:homestarloween.html|watch "Homestarloween Party"]]
*[[HR:halloween3.swf|view the Flash file for "Homestarloween Party"]]
{{halloweennav}}
[[Category:Halloween]]

User talk:Jnelson09

2006-05-06T21:16:37Z

Michelle Mabelle:

== Welcome! ==
Welcome to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' We're glad to have you as a member. If you need any help, feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]]. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].

Here are some tips to get you started:
* If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.
* Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].
* Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[hRWiki:User space|user page]].
* If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
* If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum].
* Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' and have fun!

Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user page belongs to you. I hope this information is helpful, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.

Sincerely, 
— {{User:Lapper/sig}}, and "The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee" 20:23, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

== Reddest Radish and Yello Dello ==

To answer your question, [[In Search of the Yello Dello]] has two versions. The original (in which Marzipan does not speak) predates [[The Reddest Radish]], but I'm not sure the new version does. Lemme double-check. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:09, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
: Results were inconclusive. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:13, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
:: Also, where does [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 1.0]] fall in the mix? It has a date of 2000 listed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:14, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

== Annoying Apostrophes ==

Ha! No way. I'm a real grammar stickler, so I tend to round up apostrophes into their places like the proverbial sheepdog, or perhaps a kindly matron with unruly children. Ahem. So. You haven't read ''Eats, Shoots & Leaves'', by any chance, have you? - [[User:Michelle Mabelle|Michelle Mabelle]] 22:15, 6 May 2006

User talk:Jnelson09

2006-05-06T21:14:52Z

Michelle Mabelle: Annoying Apostrophes

All up ons

2006-05-06T20:36:13Z

Michelle Mabelle:

[[Image:All up ons.PNG|thumb|310px|"Well, Strong Sad, it means they really like you."]]
"'''All up ons'''" is a saying defined by [[Strong Bad]] as meaning, "to really like you"; an example sentence is ''"The ladies are all up ons"'', meaning ''"The ladies really like you"''. However, in many of the phrase's other appearances, this does not seem to fit the context, so presumably Strong Bad just made this meaning up on the spot to suit him.

==Appearances==

*Email [[suntan]] — The origin of the saying: [[Strong Bad]] made [[Strong Sad]] to say it in an advertisement for the [[Ab-Abber 2000]]. The Ab-Abber's slogan is "They'll be ''all up ons''!" This may be a variation of the phrase "all up on us" used by Strong Bad earlier in the same e-mail.
*[[Hallrunner]] — When you face an object, the game says "You come ''all up on'' an object."
*[[Hip Hop Dance]] — [[Coach Z]]'s CD is called "The Z Is ''All Up Ins''", a variant of the term.
*Email [[dreamail]] — [[Female Lappy 486]] tells Strong Bad that in replying to his email he played well and that "Those ladies are sure to be ''all up ons''."
*Email [[lady fan]] — In a panel of the comic [[Buck Webb, Extraordinaire]], Strong Bad advises the sender of the email to drop his girlfriend if she is not ''all up ons'' after all the advice Strong Bad has given the sender.
*[[Thy Dungeonman 3]] — Near the beginning of the game, the phrase "shimmy ''all up on'' the dead dongrel" is used.
*Email [[senior prom]] — Strong Bad crashes the "Entrapment ''All Up On'' the Moon" Dance.

[[Category:Word running gags]]

HRWiki:Projects

2006-04-08T11:36:49Z

Michelle Mabelle: /* Ignored rule */

[[Category:HRWiki Maintenance|{{PAGENAME}}]]
[[Category:Community Projects|{{PAGENAME}}]]

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== Unfinished and ongoing projects ==

=== Wiki Cleanup ===
Ongoing cleanup tasks can be found at [[HRWiki:Cleanup]]

=== Links to be fixed ===
*Any [[Homestar Runner]] link that in context discusses the flash cartoon as a whole and not the actual character Homestar can be changed to [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)]]

=== Music Video Visuals ===
When it comes to music videos, the visuals are nearly half the cartoon, yet only the lyrics are listed. "[Insert Toon's Name Here] Visuals" pages need to be added for every music video, similar to [[Rock Opera Visuals|this one]].

=== TriviaTime ===

Please help add interesting questions to JoeyDay's [[User:JoeyDay/TriviaTime|TriviaTime]].

=== Image Captions ===

Some images need their captions updated, such as having links to the characters that are in the picture, links to where they are from, and links to where they are going. Also, I think it would be a good idea for all floppy disks from the [[Floppy Disk Container]] page to have links to the email or toon it's from and links to the game itself. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 15:35, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:The floppy disk container page already does have links, its in the "Appearances" column, also as for your caption thing, I don't quite catch what you are talking about, captions are just short blurbs about the pic or a line that was used in that scene. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:06, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::Example: [[:Image:Blue Hair 1-Up.PNG]]. We need to have captions more like that, and as for the floppy disks, I meant like a link to the Wikipedia article on the game shown on the disk. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 16:12, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I see {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:35, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== Completed or overrulred projects ==

=== Kobe Problem ===
Figure out a way to fix the [[Kobe]] problem discussed [[Talk:Kobe|here]].
:Fixed as of 17:28, 5 May 2005 (UTC). The solution is explained on the talk page.

=== TBC G4techTV Interview - 01 Aug 2003 ===
Due to the success of pages like [[TMBG Concert - 25 Sep 2004]] and [[Screen Savers Interview - 24 Jan 2005]], we bring you [[Pulse Interview - 1 Aug 2003]], a new page for the "Pulse" video interview [http://www.g4techtv.com/html/videostream.asp?file=G4_Extras_Pulse_Homestar.wmv available for download] on the [[Links]] page.

:It would be brilliant if somebody would do this.

:P.S. Please sign your posts. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:00, 9 Feb 2005 (MST)

I have since completed the entire transcript of [[Pulse Interview - 1 Aug 2003|this interview]] - so this can probably be "refactored" or removed entirely from Projects. Right now, I would appreciate if others would check my work for accuracy as a few more eyes will catch the errors that I most inevitably made. For the record, I intentionally omitted many instances of the word "Uh" spoken by Matt and Mike as they don't contribute to the interview. However, there likely are some "on the record" types who insist transcripts be as accurate a possible - feel free to include them if you feel compelled to. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 16:15, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== Splitting Fun Facts ===
Any toon, game- any article with many fun facts needs to be split into the categories found in [[HRWiki:Standards]].

=== Release Dates ===

I've noticed that a lot of Toons and E-mails now have 'release date' in bold at the top of the page, with an accompanying date. I really like this feature, but it only goes back so far. Until now. With the recent use of the Live Journal website, I have managed to compile a mostly complete list of updates, going back until late 2001. (It gets sketchy there.) So anyways, if anyone wants to go over those new past updates pages, and add the release dates to the many Toons, emails, etc., that would be much appreciated. Thanks.
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 02:59, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)

=== Tying Updates Together ===

I'm kinda afriad to do this, because they all have some kinda notoc thing or something on the pages, I don't know what they do, and am too scared I'll mess it up. So can somebody, somehow, tie all the updates pages, (2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, and 2001) all together? Either just expand the disclaimers at the tops of all of them, or maybe even make a new page with all of them on there or something? I dunno, it's up to you, but they really should be linked to somehow, now that they're all doneish.
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 18:05, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
:I made a [[:Template:updates-box|template]] that we could use; what do you guys think? [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 18:54, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
::I like it.—[[User:StrongstarRunbad|StrongstarRunbad]] 18:58, 25 Feb 2005 (MST)
:::So do I, it's always annoying when I try to add a new 2005 update, I have to go into the code to find the other page that I CAN edit and everything. If we add this to all 4 pages, It'll be way easier to add an update, and navigate. Count this a vote for yes.
[[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 11:54, 27 Feb 2005 (MST)

::::That template rocks. Most certainly yes. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

=== Running Times ===

It appears that at least [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]], possibly others, have begun adding 'Running Time' to many toons, expanding on the section that includes Date. I think this feature is almost as important and useful as date, so if anyone would like to add running times to the various e-mails and toons, I think they would apprecate a bit of help. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 20:37, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:Check all emails to date and they all have the running times{{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:56, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

=== TBC at SxSW ===
*Page: [[SXSW Panel - 14 Mar 2005]]
*''The guys from HomestarRunner.com talk about their cartoons, their five years on the Internet, and show you a bunch of stuff you have never seen; including footage that they just shot at SXSW, like, today even. Puppet versions of their characters will no doubt stop by and insult you or your family. You can ask the boys questions and they will do their best to provide informative and clever answers. High fives for everyone!''
:The Brothers Chaps made [http://2005.sxsw.com/interactive/conference/panels/?action=show&id=IAP0063 an appearance at SxSW]. There is tons and tons of info out there on this, since the kind of people who attend blogger conferences are typically bloggers. See [http://www.google.com/search?q=homestar+sxsw Google] and [http://www.technorati.com/cosmos/search.html?rank=&url=homestar+sxsw Technorati] for many writeups. There are also a bunch of photos at [http://www.flickr.com/photos/search/tags:homestar%2Csxsw/tagmode:all/ Flickr]. (Though be sure to get permission for any photos used.)
:Note that there seems to be a bit of content from [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005]].
*[[User:InterruptorJones|Jones]] [http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=2396 found] some video links for us too! [http://sxswvlog.blogspot.com/2005/03/homestar-runner-uncut.html hsruncut], [http://sxswvlog.blogspot.com/2005/03/homestar-runner-fan-art.html hsrfansart], [http://blogumentary.typepad.com/chuck/2005/03/we_totally_met_.html homestarkisses], and [http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2005/03/rb_05_mar_15.html Amanda Congdon's video]. There's a bit of overlap, so we should be able to get a great transcript.

=== Introducing a new Interwiki link ===
====homestarrunner.com links====
I just set up a new interwiki link that I think will make things super-easy around here (though I shant take the credit, it was [[User:InterruptorJones|Jones]]' idea). From now on, when you want to build a link to the official Homestar Runner site, use

<nowiki>[[HR:sbemail.htm|Strong Bad Email]]</nowiki>

instead of

<nowiki>[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.htm Strong Bad Email]</nowiki>

It's that simple. [[User:JoeyDay|<nowiki></nowiki>]] —[[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] [[User talk:JoeyDay|(Talk)]] 15:23, 21 Mar 2005 (MST)

:All links to homestarrunner.com should be changed to the new interwiki-type shortcut format, since now with MediaWiki 1.4 all external links have a rel="nofollow" attribute. For information on "nofollow", please see [http://www.google.com/googleblog/2005/01/preventing-comment-spam.html this Google article].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:19, 3 Apr 2005 (MDT)

:Actually, that was ''my'' idea when we were moving to MediaWiki :P - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 08:21, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::I think you had a [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk%3AStrong_Bad_Email&diff=533&oldid=530 similar] idea.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:42, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::That's not what I was talking about at all. I was talking about Interwiki, exactly the way Joey did it. I don't know if that discussion actually took place on this wiki or not, though. Of course, it's not important anyway. :) - [[User:furrykef|furrykef]] ([[User_talk:furrykef|Talk at me]]) 12:53, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==== Forum links ====
There's another new interwiki link: <code>Forum</code>

:Example: <nowiki>[[Forum:1226|forum thread re: "montage"]]</nowiki> becomes [[Forum:1226|forum thread re: "montage"]].

Again, it's just that simple. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:11, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:'''I'm on it.''' -[[User:Polly|Polly]] 00:14, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)

=== Fan Stuff List ===

I'm trying to get all the Fan Stuff Items onto the [[Fan Stuff]] page. #1 - 10 are already there, if anybody could do a few I'd appreciate it. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 13:10, 29 Mar 2005 (MST)

=== Sightings ===
The [[Sightings]] page has some terrible grammar and spelling and is altogether very cluttered. The whole page needs to be cleared out. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

:I think Sightings should be split into various page like TV Sightings, Comic Sightings etc. That nobody has to sift through a million "this webcomic made a reference" sightings to get to interesting ones. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:59, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

=== Food ===
I recently added a new article, [[Food]] , because there are something like 30 different food articles which aren't connected. I didn't have enough time, though, to write much or make a very extensive list. Please help out. I also added a Cuisine section to the [[Free Country, USA]] page.

- [[Anonymous]]

:Lists like you are thinking of making are generated by our category system. See [[:Category:Food and drinks]]. Also, I left a comment on the [[Talk:Food|talk page]] regarding the merits of that article.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:44, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

=== Things to Merge ===
*[[Army-Style Mayo]] / [[Awwww Gratin Potates]] / [[Good Gravy]] -> [[King of Town Select Food]] or similar. See discussion [[Talk:Ice_Style_Cream|here]].

=== Track Information Template ===
I'm trying to get all the pages related to the tracks on the Strong Bad Sings CD to use the [[Template:Track information]] in the "Detailed Information" section, rather than everything being typed out. You can see the template in action on the page for [[The System Is Down (song)|The System Is Down]]. --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 18:03, 3 Jul 2005 (UTC)

=== Easter Egg Character Problem ===

I've noticed that in toons and emails, the characters that are only seen in easter eggs sometimes have "(easter egg)" following their names on the cast, such as [[haircut]] and others don't. -- [[User:Tompkins]]
: Give an example of the "don't." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:39, 7 Sep 2005 (UTC)

=== Ignored rule ===
<blockquote>If a character does something while speaking a line of dialogue, or if more description is needed for their manner of speaking or inflection (e.g. if they're singing or whispering) the action ('''if it is not too long to describe in a few words''') can be enclosed in curly braces — { } — and made italic, like this: ''{goes to the refrigerator}''. Note that the curly braces themselves are also italic. Short actions like these do not need to be proper sentences.</blockquote>

The bold rule is probably one of the most ignored rules ever. Go through the various transcripts and you'll see tons of examples of long in-dialogue actions, some of which don't even relate to the speaker. This problem needs to be fixed, but it's way too big for me to do alone. ([[modeling|Here]] is an extreme example of this problem.) - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 14:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:If the rule is so widely ignored, wouldn't that imply that the rule needs review instead of the application of the rule? I'm not saying that [[modeling]] should or shouldn't be fixed, but I just want to make sure people don't get over zealous in taking this on.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:03, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:Without meaning to sound ignorant, where or how should the long in-dialogue actions be transcribed? In [[modeling]] the actions are quite important to the plot and script, so it would be a fault if they were left out. How else should they be written? [[User:Michelle Mabelle|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Michelle Mabelle|Michelle Mabelle]] 12:33 7 April 2006

=== Image copyright tags ===

Add appropriate copyright tags to every image on the wiki. Categories and tags can be found through [[:Category:Images by copyright status]] {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}}
:Done! Now verify none were skipped, and that they're all correct. (Some may need more than one) {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}}

=== TGS template ===

Took a mixture of Bill's template code from the prexnext template, and some from IDC's code from the sbemailnav template and made {{tl|tgsnav}}. This added a watch button and the issue number being standardized. Some pages had the issue number under the main title, some didn't. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

:Please proof for error as this is my first time working with a template {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:58, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::To those not in the know: this nav is based out of {{tl|sbenav}}. Discussion for this can be found [[Talk:Strong_Bad_Email#Navigation_template|here]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:33, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Looks great! I guess this can go in the "completed" section now? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:40, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::::The only question that I have, for which I could find an answer in the original discussion, did we decide finally on the watch link being there or is there a chance that people want it in the middle? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 17:15, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

=== Lappy Email Template ===
Ok, to make creating the Lappy email boxes easier, I created a template. You type the subject, then the email (click edit to see proper way). [[Template:Lappyemail]] is the name. Here's an example:

{{Lappyemail|(subject)|
first line
second line)}}

Tell me if you think it's easier!

{{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 23:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

=== Navigation templates ===
'''''This project dicussion originated from the [[Talk:Strong_Bad_Email#Navigation_template]] discussion.'''''
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|-
! | Toon Type !! width=220 | Status !! width = 250 | worked on by !! Templates used
|-
| [[Toons#Big_Toons|Big Toons]] || {{tick}} completed || {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} thanks to Venusy for some fixes. || {{tl|toonnav}}
|-
| [[Toons#Shorts|Shorts]] || {{tick}} completed || {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} || {{tl|toonnav}}
|-
| [[Toons#Powered_by_The_Cheat|Powered by The Cheat]] || not going to complete because too many PBTC pages are shared with email pages || {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} || N/A
|-
| [[Toons#Puppet_Stuff|Puppet Stuff]] || {{tick}} completed || {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} || {{tl|puppetnav}}
|-
| [[Toons#Holiday_Toons|Holiday_Toons]] || {{tick}} completed || {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} || {{tl|toonnav}}
|-
| [[Marzipan%27s_Answering_Machine|Marzipan's Answering Machine Version]] || {{tick}} completed || [[User:Bill|Bill]] [[User:Stux|Stux]] || {{tl|mamnav}}
|-
| [[Strong_Bad_Email#Strong_Bad_Emails|Strong Bad Email]] || {{tick}} completed || [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] — {{User:Lapper/sig}} [[User:Stux|Stux]] [[User:Bill|Bill]] || {{tl|sbenav}}
|-
| [[Teen_Girl_Squad|Teen Girl Squad]] || {{tick}} completed || {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} || {{tl|tgsnav}}
|-
| [[Toons#Special_Cartoons|Intros]] || {{tick}} completed || was already done || {{tl|Succession box}}
|-
| [[Toons#Special_Cartoons|Character Videos]] || {{tick}} completed || {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} || {{tl|charnav}}
|-
| [[Main_Pages]] || {{tick}} completed|| {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} || {{tl|mainnav}}
|}
====Suggestions====
As for the character video, why not just do one for each main characters? {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 03:26, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
:I sencond that. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:47, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

==== Main Page Nav Template ====

''This conversation was moved from [[Talk:Main_Pages#Main_Page_Nav_Template]].''

Does anyone think we need a navigation template for the main pages like we have for the Toons, TGS Issues, Answering Machines and SBEmails? You know, like, if you were on Main Page 5, there would be arrows at the top of the screen pointing to Main Pages 4 and 6. Just a thought. I thought it would be prooty awexome because the main pages pages go in sequential order. Any opinions on how stupid and/or borderline mental that sounded? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 00:16, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:I, personally, don't think it's a bad idea. It's looked good [[HRWiki:Projects#Navigation_templates|so far]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 02:43, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
<blockquote> Great idea are you doing that one? If not I don't mind I just don't want us both doing it at the same time. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 14:38, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking something like this:
{{mainnav|1|23|2}}
</blockquote>

::Right now I am not doing it so feel free to work on that. However, I was wondering about the [[Main_Pages#Other_Main_Pages|secondary main pages]] such as [[Luau Main Page|this one]] that do not have a number assigned to them. The current form of {{tl|mainnav}} does not allow for listings of such pages. As for the "go to Main Page X" tag, it might be slightly long, but the only other option i was thinking of was "go to Main Page" which isn't that much shorter. So that should be adequate I guess. You may have to alter the nav so that you have to type: <code><nowiki>{{mainnav|main1.html|Main Page 23|Main Page 2}}</nowiki></code> in order to handle secondary pages. In this case, the use of a generic navigation template (there should be one out there somewhere -- SBEmail talk perhaps?) would be better. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:42, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:::That was quick work! Hopefully the comment above won't set you back ... much. Anyway I just wanted to note that the blank space to the left of the nav makes me a little "uncomfortable". I don't like having that big gap between the title and the first line of text. Oh! I know... I think i know how to fix it and i'll fix it in the first main page only... gotta eat lunch and get to work! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:52, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
::::My solution is not going to work. I'll have to look at it later. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:54, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::I don't think those egg pages need to be lumped in with the rest of them. They are eggs and as such are not in order like the rest of them. It would not be in the list of main page that users would be looking normally (which is what the nav is made for; easier access to HRWIKI knowledge). I don't think the goal of the navigation buttons are to link every article in every area. <big>IF</big> we decide those main pages get nav button to, I say nav them JUST with each other keeping them seperate from the ither main pages {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:00, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
::::::That <code><nowiki><big>IF</big></nowiki></code> comment makes sense (I just wanted to paste the code). If we take the [[Strong Bad Emails]] as precedent (and [[TGS]]), the [[Strong_Bad_Emails#DVD_Emails|DVD]] emails and [[Strong_Bad_Emails#Not_Quite_Strong_Bad_Emails|NQSB]] emails don't have anything currently and are separated from the real emails. I'll looks at the template formatting soon. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:40, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Ok I fixed the spacing issue. I also added a list of the templates we're using. I will add a cat to them soon. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:52, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

==== Help with Shorts Template ====
I signed up for the shorts template. Is it okay to have 4 of <nowiki>{{{X}}}</nowiki> these in there? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 03:36, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:I created it, um... [[Template:shortnav]]. Tell me what you think. Here's an emaple:

{{toonnav|Shorts|sickday|Commandos in the Classroom|Strong Bad is a Bad Guy}}

{{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 03:40, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:What if we changed it to [[Template:toonnav]], which would be a generic template. We don't really need the "Short:" identifier. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:42, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

::Umm, okay, but this isn't for big toons. Shorts. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 03:45, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:::Oh oh oH! I get it! Good idea. Sure. moving! {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 03:46, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

::::Mov'd! [[Template:toonnav]] {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 03:48, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::Cool. But, now that I think about it, are the toons considered to be in an order? Wouldn't [[Template:watchtoon|this]] be sufficient? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:50, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

::::::Well, if they're in the order on the TV guide. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 03:51, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::That's how I did the example. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 03:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

April Fools' 2006

2006-04-02T14:10:01Z

Michelle Mabelle:

[[Image:Intro decision page flipped.png|thumb|Which way is up again?]]
On '''[[Wikipedia:April Fool's Day|April Fool's Day]] 2006''', [[The Brothers Chaps]] flipped the site upside down.
==Fun Facts==
===Remarks===
*The following pages / sites were exempt from the flipping because they are hosted separately from the main H*R content or are not Flash files:
**[[Strong Bad's Website]]
**[[Store]]
**[[Legal]]
**[[Strong Sad's Lament]]
**[[Stinkoman 20X6]]
***Note that if a HTML file is put together to try to do this, the "[[Stinkoman 20X6 Trivia#General|no Flash 7]]" warning appears.
**[[Podstar Runner]]
**[[Store Thank You Messages]]
**All the stuff in [[Museum]].

*Seek bars do not work with the flipped toons.
*Amusingly, this makes [[Homsar]]'s character page right-side up.

===Glitches===
*Several toons that are not the usual 550x400 resolution are not centered properly:
**[[virus]]
***This email also suffers from its custom navbar missing, so Homestar pulls his words from nowhere.
**[[Not the 100th Email!!!]]
**[[Handheld Games Menu]]
**[[flashback]] and [[Main Page 22]] are both correct, as they use their own flipper swf files, which handle the different size.
*Some pages have invisible or missing text:
**[[Under Construction]]
**[[Main Page 18]] (No HTML text in the "Store" effect.)
*In [[highschool]], the "m." on Young Strong Mad's shirt is missing.
*[[TROGDOR!]] doesn't load up properly - the game itself takes up only the bottom right quarter of the usual frame, and the rest is filled in with gray.
*Many buttons and other scripts on some of the site do not work, as they use the <code>_root</code> property in ActionScript to access the main scene of the Flash file. However, with the flipper file loading the main scene, <code>_root</code> actually referrs to the ''flipper'', not the scene itself. The Brothers Chaps could have gotten around this by using the <code>[http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/mx2004/main_7_2/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=Flash_MX_2004&file=00001522.html _lockroot]</code> property in the flipper, but it seems they didn't know about it (probably because they still use Flash 5, in which the _lockroot property doesn't exist).
**The Eject button on the [[Character Videos | Characters page]] (which normally makes Homsar's video come out of the VCR) does nothing.
**[[Edgar#Edgar's Baby's Daddy|Edgar's Baby's Daddy]] on [[candy product]] does not appear. Neither does the [[Old-Timey]] Easter egg in [[little animal]].
**The video clips in [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] repeat themselves automatically.
**The [[Random Toon|rando]] link on the navbar does not work.
**[[The King of Town DVD]], [[King of Town Main Page]] and anything linked from there loop at the end instead of stopping.
***Additionally, [[Revenge of the King]] seems to have a similar fate to TROGDOR! (with the broken screen), except you can not hurt The King of Town, nor does he shoot at you. The timer also doesn't work
**On the [[Decemberween Email Menu]], none of the Easter eggs work.
**The buttons on [[Downloads]] don't work.
**The [[Telebision Toons Menu]] does not work.
**On any [[Strong Bad Email]]s featuring the [[Tandy 400]] or the [[Compy 386]], the contrast buttons don't work. This includes the Easter eggs in [[gimmicks]]. The ripples on the [[Lappy 486]] appear and disappear much faster than normal, and do not stay if the mouse button is held down.
**In any of the [[Strong Bad's Message Bored]] Games, none of them work right. There is no possble way to score on any of them.
**In [[First Time Here?]], the number of takes never changes.
**The [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]]s never load.
**The number of messages on [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]] never changes.
*In [[Peasant's Quest]], Trogdor's voice doesn't work.
**When the [[Kerrek]] is encountered, his tune does not play.
**Trying to kill [[Poor Gary]] proves unsuccessful.
*It seems that the text in the Quote of the Week isn't bold, like before the 'flip'.
*Nothing in the [[Handheld Games Menu]] (except for [[Homestar Quiz]]), including itself, is fully playable.
**None of the buttons in the actual menu work (except for "new games").
**None of the buttons in [[Dancin' Bubs]] work.
**[[Homestar Talker]] does not lay out stars for each correct word, and never progresses to the Strong Bad Talker.
**Nothing but the bongos in [[Audition With Marzipan]] are playable.
**[[Bronco Trolleys]] is broken; you can click the "Play" button, but the timer doesn't work and the ingredients are missing.
**Neither the text boxes nor the finished libs work in [[Strong Libs]].
**[[Hairstyle Runner]] is playable, but many things are not visible because the top frame is off-center.
**The fortune cookies in [[Fortune Cookies]] do not work.
**The [[Spin and Say]] does not spin.
**The buttons on the [[Astro Lite]] don't work.
*Although the [[Main Pages]] rollover effects were mostly fixed, some issues remain:
**[[Main Page 3]]: Homestar isn't knocked back by the coconut for "Email".
**[[Main Page 8]]: The screen keeps moving on "Characters".
**[[Main Page 10]]: [[The Homestar Runner]]'s body doesn't expand when the bomb explodes after "Downloads".
**[[Main Page 16]]: The entire menu still doesn't work properly. In fact, two versions of the copyright notice appear at the "top" of the screen, and the trees in the background are light blue.
**[[Main Page 18]]: On "Games", [[Sherlock]] does not mumble to himself. On "Store", the background "opens" and "closes" faster than usual, with no sound effects and no HTML behind it.
**[[Main Page 22]]: The "What's New", "Weeklies", and "Main Pages" buttons appear in their normal positions and orientations, and the partial scene from [[Peasant's Quest]] does not come in from the side.
**[[Main Page 23]]: Homestar doesn't move his lips for "Toons" and doesn't reply with "'Sup" for "Store". Also, the "What's New" and "Weeklies" are missing.
**[[Homsar Main Page]]: None of the effects work, except a few bubbles appearing on "Toons".
**[[Awexome Cross 98]]: When you lose all your lives, the game freezes and you see [[The Cheat]] spinning in the tire, but the background stays still.
*The Storyboards and Deleted Scenes in "In Search of The Yellow Dello" do not work.
*When the pages were fixed early on the morning of April 2nd, the Main Page Navigation Bar fix was not initially repaired, leaving the main page right-side up, but the News button and Main Page numbers flipped.
[[Image:Main 16 from 2001.PNG|thumb|[[Main Page 16]]: Looking into the past?]]
*After the orientation reset on April 2, [[Main Page 16]] had a copyright date of 2001 overlaying the regular copyright notice. Homestar would still speak as normal, but no triggered animations would happen other than mouth movements and a visible wisp of Homestar's breath.
**Homestar's scarf was also missing, as were some trees in the background.
*[[Strong Bad's Message Bored]] Games were also not functioning correctly, as many of their components (cars, Homestar Runners to shoot) were not present.

===Fixed Glitches===
* Originally, the "What's new" button on the main pages did not appear in the correct location and was right-side up. This was fixed shortly after the "feature's" release.
* The [[Strong Bad Email]] menu originally did not list any emails. This was also fixed.
* The Weeklies popups originally appeared right-side up, but were later fixed so that they would appear flipped like the rest of the site.
*Many of the rollover button effects on the Main Pages don't work. In most cases, the speaker simply says the name of the button that is hovered over (without moving his lips) and no visual effects or other sounds occur. This was later fixed.
* In the [[Main Page 22]] the word "games" was not there. This was fixed later in the day.

===Real-World References===
*The Flash file that causes the pages to be flipped contains the phrase "They call him Flipper", which is one of the lyrics to the [[Wikipedia:Flipper (1964 television)|Flipper]] theme song.

==External Links==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipper.swf?contentURL=welcome.swf View the Flash file for the flipped opening page]
*Several toons with different sizes have their own flash file to compensate:
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperMainNav.swf?contentURL=main_nav.swf View the Flash file for the flipped navbar]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperToons.swf?contentURL=tvguide.swf View the Flash file for the flipped Toons Menu]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperGames.swf?contentURL=gamesmenu_new.swf View the Flash file for the flipped Games Menu]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperPayPlus.swf?contentURL=payplus2.swf View the Flash file for the flipped HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperVirusMain.swf?contentURL=main22.swf View the Flash file for the flipped Main Page 22]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperHundred.swf?contentURL=sbemailahundred.swf View the Flash file for the flipped flashback]
*[[Forum:7608|Forum thread Re: April Fool's 2006]]
[[Category:April Fools]]

April Fools' 2006

2006-04-02T14:09:15Z

Michelle Mabelle:

[[Image:Intro decision page flipped.png|thumb|Which way is up again?]]
On '''[[Wikipedia:April Fool's Day|April Fool's Day]] 2006''', [[The Brothers Chaps]] flipped the site upside down.
==Fun Facts==
===Remarks===
*The following pages / sites were exempt from the flipping because they are hosted separately from the main H*R content or are not Flash files:
**[[Strong Bad's Website]]
**[[Store]]
**[[Legal]]
**[[Strong Sad's Lament]]
**[[Stinkoman 20X6]]
***Note that if a HTML file is put together to try to do this, the "[[Stinkoman 20X6 Trivia#General|no Flash 7]]" warning appears.
**[[Podstar Runner]]
**[[Store Thank You Messages]]
**All the stuff in [[Museum]].

*Seek bars do not work with the flipped toons.
*Amusingly, this makes [[Homsar]]'s character page right-side up.

===Glitches===
*Several toons that are not the usual 550x400 resolution are not centered properly:
**[[virus]]
***This email also suffers from its custom navbar missing, so Homestar pulls his words from nowhere.
**[[Not the 100th Email!!!]]
**[[Handheld Games Menu]]
**[[flashback]] and [[Main Page 22]] are both correct, as they use their own flipper swf files, which handle the different size.
*Some pages have invisible or missing text:
**[[Under Construction]]
**[[Main Page 18]] (No HTML text in the "Store" effect.)
*In [[highschool]], the "m." on Young Strong Mad's shirt is missing.
*[[TROGDOR!]] doesn't load up properly - the game itself takes up only the bottom right quarter of the usual frame, and the rest is filled in with gray.
*Many buttons and other scripts on some of the site do not work, as they use the <code>_root</code> property in ActionScript to access the main scene of the Flash file. However, with the flipper file loading the main scene, <code>_root</code> actually referrs to the ''flipper'', not the scene itself. The Brothers Chaps could have gotten around this by using the <code>[http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/mx2004/main_7_2/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=Flash_MX_2004&file=00001522.html _lockroot]</code> property in the flipper, but it seems they didn't know about it (probably because they still use Flash 5, in which the _lockroot property doesn't exist).
**The Eject button on the [[Character Videos | Characters page]] (which normally makes Homsar's video come out of the VCR) does nothing.
**[[Edgar#Edgar's Baby's Daddy|Edgar's Baby's Daddy]] on [[candy product]] does not appear. Neither does the [[Old-Timey]] Easter egg in [[little animal]].
**The video clips in [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] repeat themselves automatically.
**The [[Random Toon|rando]] link on the navbar does not work.
**[[The King of Town DVD]], [[King of Town Main Page]] and anything linked from there loop at the end instead of stopping.
***Additionally, [[Revenge of the King]] seems to have a similar fate to TROGDOR! (with the broken screen), except you can not hurt The King of Town, nor does he shoot at you. The timer also doesn't work
**On the [[Decemberween Email Menu]], none of the Easter eggs work.
**The buttons on [[Downloads]] don't work.
**The [[Telebision Toons Menu]] does not work.
**On any [[Strong Bad Email]]s featuring the [[Tandy 400]] or the [[Compy 386]], the contrast buttons don't work. This includes the Easter eggs in [[gimmicks]]. The ripples on the [[Lappy 486]] appear and disappear much faster than normal, and do not stay if the mouse button is held down.
**In any of the [[Strong Bad's Message Bored]] Games, none of them work right. There is no possble way to score on any of them.
**In [[First Time Here?]], the number of takes never changes.
**The [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]]s never load.
**The number of messages on [[Marzipan's Answering Machine]] never changes.
*In [[Peasant's Quest]], Trogdor's voice doesn't work.
**When the [[Kerrek]] is encountered, his tune does not play.
**Trying to kill [[Poor Gary]] proves unsuccessful.
*It seems that the text in the Quote of the Week isn't bold, like before the 'flip'.
*Nothing in the [[Handheld Games Menu]] (except for [[Homestar Quiz]]), including itself, is fully playable.
**None of the buttons in the actual menu work (except for "new games").
**None of the buttons in [[Dancin' Bubs]] work.
**[[Homestar Talker]] does not lay out stars for each correct word, and never progresses to the Strong Bad Talker.
**Nothing but the bongos in [[Audition With Marzipan]] are playable.
**[[Bronco Trolleys]] is broken; you can click the "Play" button, but the timer doesn't work and the ingredients are missing.
**Neither the text boxes nor the finished libs work in [[Strong Libs]].
**[[Hairstyle Runner]] is playable, but many things are not visible because the top frame is off-center.
**The fortune cookies in [[Fortune Cookies]] do not work.
**The [[Spin and Say]] does not spin.
**The buttons on the [[Astro Lite]] don't work.
*Although the [[Main Pages]] rollover effects were mostly fixed, some issues remain:
**[[Main Page 3]]: Homestar isn't knocked back by the coconut for "Email".
**[[Main Page 8]]: The screen keeps moving on "Characters".
**[[Main Page 10]]: [[The Homestar Runner]]'s body doesn't expand when the bomb explodes after "Downloads".
**[[Main Page 16]]: The entire menu still doesn't work properly. In fact, two versions of the copyright notice appear at the "top" of the screen, and the trees in the background are light blue.
**[[Main Page 18]]: On "Games", [[Sherlock]] does not mumble to himself. On "Store", the background "opens" and "closes" faster than usual, with no sound effects and no HTML behind it.
**[[Main Page 22]]: The "What's New", "Weeklies", and "Main Pages" buttons appear in their normal positions and orientations, and the partial scene from [[Peasant's Quest]] does not come in from the side.
**[[Main Page 23]]: Homestar doesn't move his lips for "Toons" and doesn't reply with "'Sup" for "Store". Also, the "What's New" and "Weeklies" are missing.
**[[Homsar Main Page]]: None of the effects work, except a few bubbles appearing on "Toons".
**[[Awexome Cross 98]]: When you lose all your lives, the game freezes and you see [[The Cheat]] spinning in the tire, but the background stays still.
*The Storyboards and Deleted Scenes in "In Search of The Yellow Dello" do not work.
*When the pages were fixed early on the morning of April 2nd, the Main Page Navigation Bar fix was not initially repaired, leaving the main page right-side up, but the News button and Main Page numbers flipped.
[[Image:Main 16 from 2001.PNG|thumb|[[Main Page 16]]: Looking into the past?]]
*After the orientation reset on April 2, [[Main Page 16]] had a copyright date of 2001 overlaying the regular copyright notice. Homestar would still speak as normal, but no triggered animations would happen other than mouth movements and a visible wisp of Homestar's breath.
**Homestar's scarf was also missing, as were some trees in the background.
*[[Strong Bad's Message Board]] Games were also not functioning correctly, as many of their components (cars, Homestar Runners to shoot) were not present.

===Fixed Glitches===
* Originally, the "What's new" button on the main pages did not appear in the correct location and was right-side up. This was fixed shortly after the "feature's" release.
* The [[Strong Bad Email]] menu originally did not list any emails. This was also fixed.
* The Weeklies popups originally appeared right-side up, but were later fixed so that they would appear flipped like the rest of the site.
*Many of the rollover button effects on the Main Pages don't work. In most cases, the speaker simply says the name of the button that is hovered over (without moving his lips) and no visual effects or other sounds occur. This was later fixed.
* In the [[Main Page 22]] the word "games" was not there. This was fixed later in the day.

===Real-World References===
*The Flash file that causes the pages to be flipped contains the phrase "They call him Flipper", which is one of the lyrics to the [[Wikipedia:Flipper (1964 television)|Flipper]] theme song.

==External Links==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipper.swf?contentURL=welcome.swf View the Flash file for the flipped opening page]
*Several toons with different sizes have their own flash file to compensate:
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperMainNav.swf?contentURL=main_nav.swf View the Flash file for the flipped navbar]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperToons.swf?contentURL=tvguide.swf View the Flash file for the flipped Toons Menu]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperGames.swf?contentURL=gamesmenu_new.swf View the Flash file for the flipped Games Menu]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperPayPlus.swf?contentURL=payplus2.swf View the Flash file for the flipped HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperVirusMain.swf?contentURL=main22.swf View the Flash file for the flipped Main Page 22]
**[http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperHundred.swf?contentURL=sbemailahundred.swf View the Flash file for the flipped flashback]
*[[Forum:7608|Forum thread Re: April Fool's 2006]]
[[Category:April Fools]]

User:Michelle Mabelle

2006-03-23T18:41:14Z

Michelle Mabelle:

So, you've come to my user page for no apparent reason. More likely, you haven't, and nobody is actually reading this. Well, for those of you who aren't currently reading, you may as well know that I'm fifteen, a Beatles fan (but I'm subtle about it, you dig?) and also a big [[Homestar Runner]], um, person...ness...ment. What else is there?

Oh, right. My bottom five (too lazy for ten):

5. Insects - the way they crawl gives me the jeeblies

4. People who don't like music or the H-star-R - they are soulless, let's face it.

3. [[Thy Dungeonman]] - I keep thinking it's going to better than it is.

2. Coming up with crap reasons why you don't like stuff, eg. - because it sucks.

1. Finally, people who don't use apostrophes correctly! Do'nt pretend its not annoyin'g

In conclusion: on a scale from one to awesome, I'm super great.