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Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective

2008-12-01T23:43:07Z

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[[Image:Dangeresque 3.PNG|thumb|right|Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective logo]]
[[Image:SBCG4AP Dangeresque.PNG|thumb|"Looks like I'm gonna have to JUMP!"]]
'''Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective''' is the fourth episode of [[Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People]] game series, released November 17th, 2008. It was written by Mark Darin and [[The Brothers Chaps]].

The long-awaited third episode of the [[Blatant Lies|much-beloved]] and [[Poor Acting|well-acted]] [[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]] series is finally released to the world!

Dangeresque will have to solve a number of mysteries - Why is Cutesy Buttons' beloved rainforest being polluted, what are Perducci and Killingyouguy up to, and just who is the nefarious Craig?

'''Cast:'''
*{{film|Strong Bad}} as [[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque]]
*{{film|Homestar Runner}} as [[Dangeresque Too]] and [[Uzi Bazooka]]
*{{film|Coach Z}} as [[Renaldo]]
*{{film|The Cheat}} as [[Craig]]
*{{film|Strong Mad}} as [[Killingyouguy]]
*{{film|Marzipan}} as [[Cutesy Buttons]], [[Sultry Buttons]]
*{{film|The King of Town}} as [[Perducci]]
*{{film|Strong Sad}} as [[The Stunt Double]], [[The Monster]], [[The Informant]]
*{{film|Pom Pom}} as [[Dr. Experimento]]
*{{film|Bubs}} as [[Baron Darin Diamonocle]]
*{{film|Senor Cardgage}} as [[Dadgeresque]]
*{{film|The Poopsmith}} as [[Kidnapping Victim]]
*[[Cardboard Marzipan]]
*[[Bear Holding a Shark]]
*Bubtronic Security Robot

{| cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
|-
| '''Places:'''
|- valign="top"
| style="padding-right: 2.5em" |
[[Smoky Office|Office]] 
[[Strong Badia|Strongborneo]] 
[[Computer Room|Secret Lab]] 
[[Club Technochocolate|Old Club]] 
[[The King of Town's Castle|Catacombs]] 
[[Marzipan's House|Cutsey's House]] 
[[The Stone Bridge|Venice/Tokyo/Paris/Ireland/Cairo]] 
[[Basement of the Brothers Strong|The Sun]] 
| style="padding-right: 36px" |
[[The Field|Brainblow City]] 
[[Drive-Thru Whale|Agent Blue]] 
[[The Stick|Stickanee Tree]] 
[[Snap Shak|Photo Booth]] 
[[Bubs' Concession Stand|Brainblow City Prison]] 
[[The Gremlin|DangCar-esque]] 
Helicopter set 
[[Kiddie Pool|Shark Pond]]
|}

==Preview Transcript==

''{The "On the next episode of SBCG4AP..." screen is shown.}''

''{Homestar as Dangeresque Too? is in the Field.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{whispers}'' Okay, now? Okay—

''{Strong Bad as Dangeresque peers from behind Bubs' Stand.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{whispers}'' Shut up! We're rolling!

''{The screen flares "STRONG BAD is 'Dangeresque'" in blue text, but then fades into orange text. A slight beat starts.}''

''{Strong Bad and Homestar are sitting in the [[Gremlin]]. The Cheat can just barely be seen running past the car with a tree to simulate movement.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'm wanted outside Brainblow City for "''Undisclothed'' Violations". If I go beyond this point, I could be shot on sight!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{sounding annoyed}'' Take the shot!

''{The screen flares "HOMESTAR RUNNER is 'Dangeresque, Too?'" in blue text, but then fades to orange, just like the last caption.}''

''{Homestar is back in the Field.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You got what you had coming to you, ''{he takes off his Dangeresque, Too? glasses}'' Toe-fu!

''{The screen flares "DANGERESQUE 3: The Criminal Projective" in the same manner as "HOMESTAR RUNNER is 'Dangeresque, Too?'" and "STRONG BAD is 'Dangeresque'", then the text zooms into orange and displays "New episode every month!"}''

''{Homestar and Strong Bad are on top of Bubs' Stand.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER AND STRONG BAD:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Looks like we're gonna have to jump!

''{Homestar and Strong Bad jump off of Bubs' Stand, the screen freezes and fades a little into orange and displays on the Wii version "Play it on Wiiware", and on the PC version, "www.telltalegames.com".}''

== Inventory ==
*Ace of Spades
*Branch
*Blueprints
*Charity Card
*[[Cheatball|Creature Card]]
*[[Credenza]]
*Diamond
*[[Minor Foods|Diet Brown]]
*Fancy Flower
*Formula
*Hubcaps
*[[Big Knife|Large Knife]]
*Launch Codes
*Numbered Card
*[[Nunchuck Gun]]
*Old Receipt
*[[Painting of a Guy with a Big Knife|Painting]]
*Romantic Photo
*Ruby
*Safety Scissors
*Small Rock
*[[Taranchula Black Metal Detector]] (with shovel attachment)
*Time Card
*Trivia Card
*Toy Heart
*Trinket
*Yellow Hair

== Ranks ==
#Dead Informant
#Arms and Legs Dealer
#Unfunny Sidekick
#Doomed Eye Candy
#B-List Action Star
#12-Fingered Henchman
#Cop on the Edge
#Septuple Agent
#Vaguely European Villain
#Suave Super-Savior
#Codename: Awesome!

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*Strong Sad's costume in the Catacombs is a [[wikipedia:Motion capture#Optical: Passive Markers|passive optical marker motion capture suit]], or at least an approximation of one. It is similar to the "motion capture suit" worn by [[Matt Chapman]] in [[Sample Of Style Too]].
*Dangeresque Too's answer when asked about the trinket ("The doctor is his MOTHER!") is the solution to a lateral-thinking conundrum. The conundrum goes "a boy and his father stalled their car on a set of train tracks. A train hit the car, killing the father and wounding the boy. When the boy was taken to the hospital, the doctor on duty exclaimed "I can't operate on this boy, he's my son!" How can this be?"
*A "romcom" is a [[wikipedia:Romantic comedy|romantic comedy]].
*[[wikipedia:Billy Dee Williams|Billy Dee Williams]] is an American actor best known for playing Lando Calrissian in Star Wars.
*"Post", mentioned when Dangeresque first meets the monster in the catacombs, refers to [[wikipedia:Post-production|post-production]].
*Pick-ups are minor shots filmed during post-production in order to augment footage already filmed.
*The Irish Informant's name, Cecil van Gough, combines Cecil, a common first name in Ireland, with [[wikipedia:Vincent van Gogh|Vincent van Gogh]], an artist — which makes his job as an art critic unsurprising.
*The Tokyo Informant's name, Stoolie Rat Weasel, is a hint. A stoolie is a person acting as a decoy, rat is informally used to mean an informant, and weasel is informally used to mean a deceitful person. (The presence of Perducci's bullet in Tokyo is also a hint, among other things.)
*An "[[Wikipedia:Uzi|Uzi]]" is a type of submachine gun, and a "[[Wikipedia:Bazooka|bazooka]]" is a type of rocket launcher.

===Trivia===
*This is the first episode of SBCG4AP where the House of Strong cannot be navigated, and the first episode not to have a [[Teen Girl Squad]] comic.
*This is also the first SBCG4AP which doesn't feature Homsar.
*It's also the first SBCG4AP where [[Strong Badia]] isn't linked to [[The Field]].
*A blooper from this game of Bubs' line "Oh, you know him more than you know that you know that you know... him... or somethin'." was put on the website as [[Quote of the Week]] on 11th September 2008, just over two months before the game's release.
*Strong Bad had said in [[stunt double]] that Dangeresque 3 would be in 3D. However, it was depicted as an [[Wikipedia: anaglyph image|anaglyph image]] rather than a [[Wikipedia: computer generated image|computer generated image]].
*The end credits for the movie itself read:
<blockquote>
Written and directed by Strong Bad 
 
Dangeresque -- Strong Bad 
Dangeresque Too -- Homestar Runner 
DADgeresque - Senor Cardgage 
Renaldo -- Coach Z 
Perducci -- The King of Town 
Diamonocle -- Bubs 
Cutesy Buttons -- Marzipan 
Sultry Buttons -- Marzipan 
Killingyouguy -- Himself 
Buncha Dopey Informants -- El Dumpo the Wide 
Craig -- The Cheat 
 
All Stunts by Strong Bad 
 
'Today is Alright 4 2nite' 
Written and performed by Strong Bad 
</blockquote>

===Remarks===
*If the preview is watched following the end credits of [[Baddest of the Bands]], The Stick appears in the background behind Bubs' stand, still covered in toilet paper. Watching the preview from the main menu, however, does not show The Stick at all.
*It took Strong Bad over 4 1/2 years to complete this "blockbuster", as [[dangeresque 3]] marked the 114th day of production.
*In the tutorial for this episode, Strong Bad wears the Dangeresque shades throughout most of it, taking them off at Bubs' Consession Stand.
*The smoky office has the shark pond and picket fence just outside the window, suggesting it should be located in the center of the Field, probably behind the camera as Strong Bad walks around. However, shots across the Field, over characters' shoulders, show nothing there.
*The King of Town, against his word in his last line in the film as Perducci, does not attend the premiere.
*All of the "exotic locales" at the stone bridge are cities except for "Ireland", a country.

===Goofs===
*The [[Lappy 486]] has a black outline in this episode, instead of it being colored as in every other appearence.
*If you look out the window after Cutesy Buttons gets kidnapped, the video of Marzipan watching Credenza in the shark pond will play, except without the animation of Marzipan.
*In extended play, several scenes involving Renaldo will replay without his being there.
*The "Renaldo Fun Sheets" is actually a pillowcase.
*In the opening to the car chase scene, as Strong Bad speaks the line "Make it snappy, Yellow 5!", The Cheat runs backwards twice without returning to the front in between.
*Sometimes when Strong Bad (as Dangeresque) checks emails, his trademark glasses are not visible in his reflection on the Lappy's screen.
**Occasionally, his reflection will not appear at all.
====Wii Version====
*The manual page in the catacombs area is unobtainable in extended play.

===Glitches===
*On occasion, the moving ojects in [[Space Circus Catastrophe]] will disappear.
*Though the characters always refer to Experimento as being a Professor, the mouse-over text for him calls him Doctor.
*Experimento's list of ingredients on the black board calls for a "bubbly drink", but characters always read it as "bubbly liquid".
*The metal detector reacts at every world location, but Perducci's bullet can only be found at Tokyo (in standard play) and Venice (in extended play). In addition, it continues to react even after Perducci's bullet has been found.
*If the cereal box was acquired from the Stick during standard play, the extra can of Diet Brown on the table in the Office during extended play simply vanishes shortly after Strong Bad's introduction.
*The disk box is missing from the Secret Lab during extended play.

===Inside References===
*In [[stunt double]], Strong Bad advertised that Dangeresque 3 would be in 3D, although the 3D he mentioned was [[wikipedia:Anaglyph|anaglyphic]] rather than computer animation.
*The two pieces of art in Dangeresque's office depict Strong Sad's dragon from [[dragon]], and the "Deutsch Master" painting from [[portrait]].
**Additionally, the painting that Perducci carries with him throughout the movie is the [[Painting of a Guy with a Big Knife]].
*Diet Brown originated in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 13]].
*Several references are made to previous SBCG4AP episodes. Notably:
**Coach Z's stunt double was a potted plant that appeared in the King of Town's castle in [[Homestar Ruiner]].
**The autopilot in the car was Bubs' security robot in [[Baddest of the Bands]].
**When Strong Sad acts as Homestar's stunt double, he wears the float head Strong Bad used in [[Homestar Ruiner]].
**One of Homestar's "demands" was a million dollars in quesos, which was the Strong Badian currency in [[Strong Badia the Free]].
**''Food Related Love'', as performed by Pomstar in [[Baddest of the Bands]], is re-used as backing music at Cutesy's House.
**In extended play, inspecting the skulls in the catacombs will have Strong Bad reveal that they're the same ones Marzipan made for Strong Mad's short-lived Country in [[Strong Badia the Free]].
**The joystick control for the helicopter set is the pogo stick used for the Race to the End of the Race in [[Homestar Ruiner]].
**Strong Bad's line "Do you have any fruit to declare?" when interrogating one of the City Limits signs at Brainblow City is a repeat of one of Homestar's lines at Marzistar in [[Strong Badia the Free]].
*In the opening, a billboard can be seen advertising for [[The Pizz]] from [[pizza joint]].
*When in Strong Borneo, Dangeresque and Renaldo use the [[Riverquest Safariventure]] box from [[theme park]]. During extended play, Strong Bad will acknowledge this, even going as far as mentioning the email itself.
*When Perducci is asked to shuffle cards for the first time, a reference is made to his [[lack of visible arms]]
*Strong Bad's line "Oh, so ''that's'' how come you don't dance no more" mimcks a line from [[New Boots]].
*The game's finale features another instance of [[kicking The Cheat]].
*Strong Sad's line, "Only that I am not one of his minions," is from [[dangeresque 3]].
*In extended play, Strong Bad mentions that one of the matte paintings was painted by a guy named [[Matt Chapman|Matt]].
*Strong Bad twice refers to a drink as being not a [[Cold One]], and once mentions Cold Ones specifically.
*When speaking to Renaldo at his retirement party, he mentions [[suntan|cocoa butter]].
*If he catches her during the Mexican stand-orff scene, Uzi Bazooka calls Cutesy Buttons "[[Missy Palmer|Missy]]".
*Many of Strong Bad's lines when putting on clothing in the [[Snap Shak]] are slightly-paraphrased quotes from [[modeling]].
*Strong Bad's "rhinociraptors" is a [[portmanteau]] of "rhinocerous" and "velociraptors".
*Strong Bad mentions that Perducci smells of mints and gravy, a reference to the ice cream flavors seen in the King of Town's castle in [[the bet]].
*One of the onions in Cutesy Buttons' enriched garden is [[Other Character Variations#Onion Bubs|Onion Bubs]].
*Strong Bad refers to Dadgeresque as being [[crazy go nuts|crazy go insane]].
*[[Dinosaurs]], [[robots]], [[pants]], [[Underwear]], [[disconnected telephones]], [[poor acting]], [[smoking]], [[cool shades]], [[cross-dressing]], [[blatant lies]], [[breakfast cereal]]. [[cheese]], [[color flavored]], [[seriously]], [[cars]], [[deodorant]], [[lasers]], [[mustaches]], [[kicking The Cheat]], [[lack of visible arms]], [[portmanteaus]] [[spaceships]], [[the Poopsmith's signs]], [["Er" pronounced as "Oi"]], [[suntan]]s [[dump]], [[-èd]] and [[tonite]] are all running gags that make appearences in the game.

===Real-World References===
*The format of the text in the opening credits is the same as the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Lethal_Weapon|Lethal Weapon]]''.
**When you point the nunchuck gun at Dangeresque Too, he asks, "Do you want to get crazy? Oh, I'll get crazy!" Mel Gibson's character Martin Riggs says something very similar in ''Lethal Weapon''.
*In responding to the first email, Dangeresque says that in basic training at Crooked Cop Academy you learn how to make cool noises with your mouth. This is a reference [[Wikipedia:Michael Winslow|Michael Winslow]]'s ''[[Wikipedia:Police Academy (franchise)|Police Academy]]'' character Sgt. Larvell "Motor Mouth" Jones.
*The videotape of the villain brushing The Cheat's hair while his face is hidden references James Bond villain [[Wikipedia:Ernst_Stavro_Blofeld|Ernst Stavro Blofeld]].
*Dangeresque misunderstands Perducci's game of rock, paper, [[Wikipedia:Baccarat|Baccarat]], as "Rocks, Papers and [[Wikipedia:Burt_Bacharach|Burt Bacharach]]".
*When Perducci plays the Ace of Spades, Dangeresque says it in a similar sounding way to the chorus of the [[Wikipedia:Motorhead|Motorhead]] song "[[Wikipedia:Ace of Spades (song)|Ace of Spades]]".
*The "time card" in Perducci's game is for ''Embarrassing Idol'', one of the shows being filmed at the TV studio in [[Wikipedia:Situation: Comedy (Sam & Max)|Sam and Max Episode 102: Situation: Comedy]]. The card itself comes from [[Wikipedia:Situation: Comedy (Sam & Max)|Sam and Max Episode 204: Chariot of the Dogs]].
** If you use the phone in Dangeresque's office, one of the responses involves Dangeresque getting a call from the Commissioner, asking him to do something "to a rabbit", and Dangeresque telling him "You got the wrong number", another reference to the ''Sam and Max'' franchise: the Freelance Police received most of their assignments over the phone from "the Commissioner".
**One of the backgrounds in the Snap Shak is for Sam & Max's office building and Bosco's Inconvenience Store.
*Dangeresque shouts "Another boot to the head, and another for Jenny and The Wimp!" as he fights the Bear Holding a Shark, a reference to [[Wikipedia:Last Will and Temperament|"Last Will and Temperament"]], a skit by The Frantics where various heirs in a will get "boots to the head".
*The term "a Jessica Tandy joint" refers to the British-American actress, [[Wikipedia:Jessica Tandy|Jessica Alice Tandy]] and director [[Wikipedia:Spike Lee|Spike Lee]], who uses the credit "A Spike Lee Joint" rather than the typical "A Spike Lee Film."
*When preparing to go to the sun, Strong Bad uses the phrase "It's dark and I'm wearing sunglasses", a quote from the 1980 movie ''[[Wikipedia:The_Blues_Brothers_(film)|The Blues Brothers]]''.
*The "ruby" on powering Dr. Experimento's rocket is a red [[Wikipedia:Ring Pop|Ring Pop]] candy.
*Strong Bad's line "It's what plants crave!" references the film ''[[Wikipedia:Idiocracy|Idiocracy]]'', in which a drink called Brawndo is promoted with the same slogan.
*Strong Bad once refers to Homestar as "Mushmouth", the name of a character in [[Bill Cosby|Bill Cosby's]] ''[[Wikipedia:Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids|Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids]]''.
*Strong Bad mentions the [[Wikipedia:XFL|XFL]], a defunct football league run by [[professional wrestling|pro wrestling]] promoter Vince McMahon.
*The Purple Nose of Cairo that Sultry Buttons steals in Cairo references the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Purple_Rose_of_Cairo|The Purple Rose of Cairo]]''.
*Dangeresque attempts to disable the drill in the sun base by attacking it with the "Four Fingered Exploding Fist of the Lotus Knuckle" maneuver, similar to the "Five Point Exploding Heart Technique" used by The Bride to kill Bill in the movie ''[[Wikipedia:Kill Bill|Kill Bill]]''.
*When Dadgeresque dies, Dangeresque responds by stringing together the names of a bunch of sappy love songs - specifically [[Wikipedia:Bette Midler|Bette Midler's]] "[[Wikipedia:Wind Beneath My Wings|Wind Beneath My Wings]]" and the [[Wikipedia:The Carpenters|Carpenters']] "[[Wikipedia:We've Only Just Begun|We've Only Just Begun]]" - but ends randomly with [[Wikipedia:Cyndi Lauper|Cyndi Lauper's]] "[[Wikipedia:She_Bop|She Bop]]".
*When Dangeresque finds the third manual page (in Strongborneo), he remarks that the map of the solar system is "out of date". This is likely a reference to the fact that [[Wikipedia:Pluto|Pluto]], which appears on the map, is no longer classified as a planet.
*When Dangeresque aims his gun at Uzi Bazooka after Dadgeresque is killed, he rather embellishes on a quote from ''[[Wikipedia:The Princess Bride|The Princess Bride]]''.
*Strong Bad calls the impostor informant "[[Wikipedia:Trader Joe's|Traitor Joe]]".
*Strong Bad saying that the paintings in the office "belong in a museum!" is a reference to the ''[[Wikipedia:Indiana Jones franchise|Indiana Jones]]'' film series.
*Strong Bad's GSPTK is a reference to the [http://www.gpstk.org/bin/view/Documentation/WebHome GPSTK], or Global Positioning Satellite ToolKit, a suite of open-source programs designed to assist researchers in using the GPS network.
*Strong Bad's line "I'll always have Paris on my map" is a reference to the movie ''[[wikipedia:Casablanca (film)|Casablanca]]''.
*Strong Bad mentions having a license to kill, which refers to [[wikipedia:00 Agent|James Bond]].
*Professor Experimento somewhat resembles [[wikipedia:Albert Einstein|Albert Einstein]].
*Agent Blue's name references [[wikipedia:Agent Orange|Agent Orange]], a powerful herbicide.
*Strong Bad calling the Whale Deep Spout references [[wikipedia:Deep Throat|Deep Throat]], the codename used for an informant during the Watergate scandal.
*Tri-Lambda Penitentiary, or nerd prison, is a reference to Lambda Lambda Lambda, a fraternity house featured in the movie ''[[wikipedia:Revenge of the Nerds|Revenge of the Nerds]]''.
*The devices used during the car chase scene are a reference to [[wikipedia:List of James Bond vehicles|James Bond's cars]], which were typically equipped with similar devices. They may also be a reference to the oil slick around the car in [[Baddest of the Bands]].
*The name of the Western Lowland Grizzlysharkasaurusbot comes from the [[wikipedia:Western Lowland Gorilla|Western Lowland Gorilla]].
*Homestar sings "Billy Dee" to the tune of Michael Jackson's ''[[wikipedia:Billie Jean|Billie Jean]]''
*Strong Bad's "to the Dangeresque cave!" is a reference to "to the Batcave!", a line regularly used in the [[Batman|Batman tv series]].
*Strong Bad mentions blowing a ball up a tube in order to become an astronaut — this refers to a [[wikipedia:Spirometer|spiromete]], as lung capacity is vital to astronauts.
*Strong Bad mentions "trekking the stars", a reference to [[wikipedia:Star Trek|Star Trek]].
*Strong Bad mentions [[wikipedia:Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band|Sergeant Pepper]].
*The "diamond-tipped diamond" is a souvenir paperweight from the [[wikipedia:Luxor (hotel)|Luxor Hotel]] in Las Vegas.
*One of the backgrounds in the Snap Shak is a vertically-compressed photo of Miami's [[Wikipedia:Bank of America Tower (Miami)|Bank of America Tower]] at night.
*The view outside the noir office window is a (slightly-edited) nighttime photo of [[Wikipedia:Union Square, San Francisco|Union Square]] in San Francisco, CA. Gabriel Robledo is credited for [http://www.imagekind.com/Showartwork.aspx?IMID=a30e07c5-0f0e-4338-a080-36cf5959f86d the original photo].
*Uzi Bazooka is a cheat in the computer game Worms, which makes the Uzi fire Bazooka shells instead of normal bullets, for massive destruction.

==External Links==
*[[Telltale:strongbad/dangeresque3|Official Episode Webpage]]
*[[Forum:14888|Forum thread re: "{{PAGENAME}}"]]
**[[Forum:14644|Pre-release thread]]
*[http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7037 Telltale forum thread re: "{{PAGENAME}}"]
*[http://www.telltalegames.com/strongbad/dangeresque3promo The official website for ''Dangeresque 3'']
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Strong Bad

2007-04-27T18:44:20Z

Meneth: /* Biography */

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[[Image:MontageStrongBad.png|thumb|The ramblin' wreck of email-check!]]
== Biography ==

'''Strong Bad''' is one of the most well-known characters in the [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work. He started out as the villain who tried to cheat his way to the top but was always doomed to fail before [[Homestar Runner]]. In the manner that minor characters become [[Wikipedia:breakout character|breakout characters]], he's now less of a villain and more of a highly expanded form of comic relief, with his irascible sarcasm and rough voice seeming to make him ever more popular with fans of the website.

He answers [[Strong Bad Email|emails]] with a passion, and will [[Poorly Written Emails|make fun]] of their grammar, punctuation, and spelling—although he's not overly worried about [[Strong Bad's Spelling|his own]]. He also hates to be asked about [[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?|how he manages to type with boxing gloves on]]. He usually does what he does best when he gets an e-mail like that: '''[[DELETED|DELETED!!]]''' He also writes, illustrates, and narrates the [[Teen Girl Squad]] comics.

Strong Bad is the middle child of [[The Brothers Strong]]. His is the dominant personality and he loves to push everyone around: he's often abusing Homestar, [[Kicking The Cheat|kicking]] [[The Cheat]], [[Marzipan's Answering Machine|prank-calling]] [[Marzipan]], or [[Strong Bad and Strong Sad's Relationship|tormenting]] Strong Sad (although it's been hinted that they [[The Secrets That I Keep|got along]] when they were younger). Although he seems to dislike or positively loathe many characters in the [[Homestar Runner universe]], he enjoys the company of [[Pom Pom]], [[Bubs]], The Cheat, his ever-diligent lackey, and [[Strong Mad]], his older brother.

He has boxing gloves for hands (which always have square window reflections on them, no matter where he is), and a [[Wikipedia:Lucha libre|lucha libre]] mask for a head (as confirmed in [[some kinda robot]]). Although he claims that his mask is his face, he once removed it in the [[the chair]], which caused him a lot of pain. His mouth is rectangular, though it often becomes round when he says words with the letter "o". Most of the time, Strong Bad's mouth is in a slight frown, but there are occasions where he [[Strong Bad Smiling|smiles]]. The blue diamond on his face also gives him the power to mentally open [[Cold One]]s and even pop Homestar's hat off his head; however, this seems to have been abandoned, as it was only demonstrated in [[super powers]]. Strong Bad rules the land of [[Strong Badia]], a barren field behind the [[Wikipedia:Dumpster|dumpsters]] that is completely devoid of any sentient life. His favorite saying is (or was for a time) "[[Crap|holy crap]]", though he hates when people use the word crap when [[Crapfully Yours|signing emails]]. He frequently mangles words, as seen in [[army]]. ("We're a one man army. Er, a three man one-y. [[Three-to-One Marny|Three-to-one-marny]]?") It has also been [[road trip|implied]] that he wets the bed, a fact the he attempts to cover up with little success.

Strong Bad talks a big line, claiming to be a criminal mastermind, a [[Exaggerated Strong Bad|muscle man]], and totally popular with the [[Strong Bad's Ladies|ladies]], though there is little evidence of any of these claims, and no shortage of evidence that they are all untrue. Strong Bad refuses to acknowledge this however, and continues unaffected with his delusions of grandeur. He is convinced that Marzipan likes, or has a crush on, him when in fact she "[[marzipan|really doesn't like him at all]]." Due to his delusional opinions about himself, much of what Strong Bad says is [[Blatant Lies|obviously untrue]].

He loves to listen to [[Limozeen]], [[Taranchula]], and [[Peter Frampton]]. His favorite show is [[Caleb Rentpayer]]. He also enjoys doing Jumble puzzles and baking. His love for [[Strong Bad's Technology|older technology]] such as cassette tapes, command prompt computers, old video games and laserdiscs, and the titles of events such as "[[monster truck|Awexome Cross '98]]", and "[[TrogdorCon '97]]" suggest that Strong Bad is "stuck in the '90s". Despite his love of the nineties, he seems to despise and destroy anything from any previous decade, like [[Wikipedia:8-track cartridge|8-Tracks]], TVs that lost their essence in the '70s, and the [[Wikipedia:Nintendo Entertainment System|Nintendo Entertainment System]].

[[Image:Baby strong bad.png|thumb|Pretending to play better video games.]]
Strong Bad has sung many hit singles, his most popular being "[[Everybody to the Limit]]". He also stars as the protagonist in the blockbuster action series "[[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]]".

He works with Homestar and The Cheat at an [[The Office|unnamed tech company]], though despite this fixed income, he seems to have financial troubles, and often attempts money making solutions of questionable legitimacy and burns his bills with his [[BMW Lighter]].

Strong Bad is somewhat prejudiced; he has been [[sb_email 22|banned from the UK]], and often [[little questions|ridicules non-English speakers]] on their e-mails. He also does not get on well with old people or children, although he claims to have children of his own, including Jeffrey Beffrey Mudgeman, at his second secret home where he goes by the name Vance Mudgeman. He doesn't appear to care much for those children either, or perhaps he does and truly believes that "you got to be firm."

As evidenced in [[stand-up]], Strong Bad once did [[Wikipedia:standup comedy|stand-up comedy]] as a kid. He apparently wasn't very good, as he tried to make up jokes instead of using natural comedy or rehearsed jokes. However, he doesn't like talking about his act, because his pants fell down in front of the audience, and he ran away embarrassed.

*'''Domicile:''' [[House of the Brothers Strong]]
*'''Debut:''' [[Original Book|"The Homestar Runner Enters The Strongest Man in the World Contest"]]
*[[:Category:Strong Bad Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

== Character Video Transcript ==
''{'''Page Title:''' Get ready for the new!}'' ''{'''Place:''' [[Strong Badia]]}''

''{Strong Bad is seen standing next to several cardboard props, including one of Homestar Runner with a snake wrapped around his head. He is moving some of the props around.}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Hold on, I'm not done with the props yet! ''{turns to camera}'' Greetings, party people in the place to be! I am called Strong Bad! Hand over all your moneys in a paper and/or plastic bag! Ladies, form a line to my left for makeouts! Dudes, form a line to my right for high fives! Like I said, I'm Strong Bad. I've been described as cool, awesome, hot, video games, the hottest, and real real hot. Me and my big brother and our The Cheat pretty much run the show around here, as well as serve as a sort of multi-purpose criminal element. Yeah, we got a lot of—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Ahe-he-hem.

'''STRONG BAD''': What are you doing here?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': Well, I was gonna get a high five, but, I see that I'm already here. And with a snake on my head!

'''STRONG BAD''': Yeah, that's right. So I'm gonna have to charge you double. You know, since you're both here.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER''': That sounds reasonable! ''{pronounces it re-ZON-able}''

'''STRONG BAD''': Okay, I only accept gold nuggets. Or maybe Denver Nuggets. ...Whatever you got on ya. Chicken nuggets.

===Fun Facts===
*"Party peoples in the place to be!" is a reference to an [[Wikipedia:Ultramagnetic MC|Ultramagnetic MC]] song called "Ego Trippin'", during which before the song, the announcer says, "Party peoples in the place to be! Just for you, it's the Ultramagnetic MCs!"
*The [http://www.nba.com/nuggets/ Denver Nuggets] are a professional [[Wikipedia:National Basketball Association|NBA]] basketball team.

== Strength ==
There is highly conflicting evidence regarding Strong Bad's strength. For the most part, it is implied that Strong Bad is actually very weak and out of shape and that "Strong Bad" is merely his name and not an accurate description: In the email [[lady fan]], he is unable to do even a single push-up, and states that he used to be able to do only four. In addition, the paper on Strong Bad's desk in the [[Homestar Quiz]] reads "Strong Bad isn't so strong after all. If he tried hard, which of the following could he lift?", and lists the choices as "an ounce", "a week", "a weak", and "pepper". On the other hand, in the email [[car]], Strong Bad demonstrates the ability to punch Homestar hard enough to hit and crack the wall, and in the email [[secret identity]], he literally tosses both Homestar and the King of Town out of his house. He can also easily pick up and carry the supposedly 42-pound [[Lappy 486]], and is quite adept at [[Kicking The Cheat|kicking The Cheat]] (hinted in [[Where's The Cheat?]] to weigh about 18 pounds). It is possible that, like Homestar's "[[Lack of Visible Arms|arms]]", Strong Bad's true strength may be purposely ambiguous.

== Fun Facts ==
*Strong Bad and Strong Mad, and their original role as tag team wrestlers, came from the [[Nintendo]] video game [[Wikipedia:Tag Team Wrestling|Tag Team Wrestling]] created by Data East U.S.A. in 1986. In this game, one of the teams is called "The Strong Bads."
*Apparently, Strong Bad is able to survive, stand up, and even talk, with a hole blasted in his head, as shown in [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]] and the email [[lady...ing]].
*Strong Bad has never closed his eyes completely, even when he is sleeping.
**However, it appears that his eyes will turn black after he dies.
*He also has never completely closed his mouth, and he supposedly has a green tongue.
*Strong Bad was originally conceived as a masked wrestler because in their childhood, The Brothers Chaps viewed masked wrestlers as the embodiment of evil, making them an ideal choice for an antagonist.
*As seen by [[Lil' Strong Bad]] and in [[highschool]], his head seems to become more oval-shaped as he grows older.
*When he is sleeping, he [[Couch Mumbling|mumbles]] names of famous SNES games, such as Super Contra or Chrono Trigger.
*Strong Bad's head moves around when he is speaking a lot more when he is facing away from the camera. This is true even when he [[Main Page 23|thinks he is facing the camera]].
*As of 18 March 2007, Strong Bad has the highest complete filmography of all the characters on the website, appearing in 320 toons.
*Strong Bad hopes of becoming a 2nd 2nd Assistant Space-Whale scrubber.

== Variations ==
[[Image:puppetstrongbad.png|thumb|[[Puppet Stuff|Puppet]] Strong Bad]]
*[[Old-Timey Strong Bad]] ([[Old-Timey]])
*[[Stinkoman]] ([[20X6]])
*[[Keyboard Strong Bad]] ([[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]])
*[[Tiny-Handed Strong Bad]]
*[[Lil' Strong Bad]]
*[[Strong Badman]]
*[[Atari Strong Bad]]
*[[Vector Strong Bad]]
*[[Wrestleman]]
*[[Made-Up Strong Bad Animals]]
*[[Sterrance]]
*[[Teenage Variation#Teenage Strong Bad|Teenage Strong Bad]]
*[[Free_Petry_Dish,_USA_Variation#Strongbadiophage|Strongbadiophage]] ([[highschool]])
*[[Head Bad and Strong Body]] ([[disconnected]])
*[[The Castlefunnies|The Castlefunnies Strong Bad]] ([[old comics]])
*[[Zombie Strong Bad]] ([[your funeral]])


=== [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters|Teen Girl Squad Variations]] ===
*[[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Strong Bad|Strong Bad]]
*[[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Leprechaun Strong Bad|Leprechaun Strong Bad]]
*[[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Sir Hotbod Handsomeface|Sir Hotbod Handsomeface]]
*[[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Strong Bad Robot|Strong Bad Robot]]

=== [[Halloween Costumes]] ===
*[[Wikipedia:Carmen Miranda|Carmen Miranda]] in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*[[Wikipedia:Carmen Sandiego|Carmen Sandiego]] in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*Homestar as [[Wikipedia:Angus Young|Angus Young]] in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*Ozone (from the movie [[Wikipedia:Breakin'|Breakin']]) in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*[[Wikipedia:Cesar Romero|Cesar Romero]] as [[Wikipedia:Joker (comics)|The Joker]] in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*Jambi the Genie from [[Wikipedia:Pee-wee's Playhouse|Pee-wee's Playhouse]] in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]
*[[Wikipedia:Father Guido Sarducci|Father Guido Sarducci]] in [[Happy Hallow-day]].

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|'''Singers:''' "You and me, babe, livin for dreams, lifin' for love, drinkin' for free. Sittin' on top of an old robot, sharin' and carin' it out. The memory's scrubbin' you down!"|[[theme song]]|Mirror:lifingforlove.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Whoa, it's been upgraded to stank. Just last week it was only stink. Stonk can't be far away."|[[the chair]] outtake|Mirror:sb_stankstonk.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Naw it's a moon computer. Y'know, the kind the planets use to do their taxes." |[[A Decemberween Pageant]]|Mirror:sb_planetaxes.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"When email comes to town you know, you know it's like a rainstorm in your browser.When email comes to town I know, I know it's like a netscape hurricane"|Extended version of [[theme song]]'s opening lines (with background music)|Mirror:sb_rainstorm.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"You will note the artist's attention to fine wines, his masterful use of shadow...stevens. Circle gets the square."|[[portrait]] outtake|Mirror:sb_stevens.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Alright I gotta get out of here. I'm meetin Delelilia for some vietma- viamatese tunuffins!"|[[senior prom]] outtake|Mirror:sb_vietbunmuffins.mp3}}
*{{qotw|The SBLOUNSKCHED! Bar jingle|[[candy product]]|Mirror:sblounskched.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Oh, if you want it to be possessive it's just 'its,' but if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's I-T apostrophe S! ...scalawag."|[[local news]]|Mirror:sb_itsits.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"What?! ''[[Wikipedia:Under Siege 2: Dark Territory|Under Siege 2]]''?? You got me this for like the last 3 years, man!"|[[The Best Decemberween Ever]] outtake|Mirror:sb_undersiege2.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"The Cheatbot! Do you use that same mouth to kiss your... motherboard."|[[technology]] outtake|Mirror:sb_motherboard.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"They flew on a sweet, sweet mushroom bridge to the...baseball...game."|[[flashback]] outtake|Mirror:sb_baseballgame.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Oh! Very mean things...to say. Funny also, too."|QotW exclusive|Mirror:sb_verymean.mp3}}
*{{qotw|As [[Reynold]]: "Oh, I really need to go grocery shopping. I wish my girlfriend didn't leave me." |[[Cheat Commandos (toon)|Cheat Commandos]]|Mirror:reynold_groceries.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"You bet! Hit me on the slant!"|[[Senorial Day]]|Mirror:sb_hitmeontheslant.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Naw, it can't be heaven. There's not enough [[Wikipedia:Twinkies|Twinkies]]."|[[Where the Crap Are We?]]|Mirror:sb_twinkies.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I'm on a RAMPAGE!!"|[[rampage]]|Mirror:sb_rampage.mp3}}
*{{qotw|Imitating the [[Lappy 486]] startup noise: "Dong DIIING!!!"|[[animal]]|Mirror:sb_dongdling.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Oh. Why do you...guys...like me anymore. I—I've lost it!"|[[origins]] outtake|Mirror:sb_ivelostit.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Everyone is different. No two people are not on fire. Awww."|[[kids' book]]|Mirror:sb_no2people.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I doh du duoh [[Crapfully Yours|crapfully yours]]. ID DO DU DUOH CRAPFULLY YOURS!"|[[virus]]|Mirror:qod_sb_crapfullyours.mp3}}
*{{qotw|Sings the "You're a Girl" song|[[montage]]|Mirror:youreagirl.zip}}
*{{qotw|"And I'll just erase it using my... electron... towel."|[[haircut]] outtake|Mirror:sb_lightrag.mp3}}
*{{qotw|'''With [[Homestar Runner]]''': "Looks like we're gonna have to jump!"|[[dangeresque 3]]|Mirror:sbhs_havetojump.zip}}
*{{qotw|''{click}'' "Don't forget to experience the fury of our gift shooop." ''{click}''|[[theme park]]|Mirror:sb_giftshop.zip}}
*{{qotw|'''As [[Li'l Brudder]]''': "I can make it on my own!"|[[crying]]|Mirror:sb_brudder.zip}}
*{{qotw|"Strong Bad did a jig while holding all the grapes, and [[The Cheat]] learned to fly!"|[[kids' book]] Easter egg [[strongbad_email.exe|DVD version]]|Mirror:sb_jig.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Ah, the self-proclaimed King of Town. Like you aren't an easy jab for my witty glivers and put-dubs."|[[labor day]] outtake|Mirror:sb_kingmessup.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Jeez, The Cheat, you can't sneak up on a brotha like that!"|[[privileges]]|Mirror:sb_sneakup.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Possums!"|[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 3]]|Mirror:sb_possums.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Why you lazy crap for crap!"|[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]]|Mirror:sb_crap4crap.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"This is the quote of the day!"|QotW exclusive|Mirror:sb_qod.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"You guys, that was a pretty good one."|QotW exclusive|Mirror:sb_fart.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Check me out! No, seriously, check me out."|A la [[First Time Here?]]|Mirror:sb_checkme2.mp3}}
*{{qotw|The Strong Bad Show theme song.|QotW exclusive|Mirror:sb_sbshow.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Okay, now I got to bust a wicked solo. ''{a crappy acoustic guitar solo is played}'' Thank you, goodnight!"|[[vacation]]|Mirror:sb_wickedsolo.mp3}}
*{{qotw|'''Strong Bad:''' "It's that cloc—" '''[[Mike Chapman]]:''' "Sorry."|[[vacation]] outtake|Mirror:sb_clockmessup.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"Pretty impressive, huh? I bet you're pretty impressed."|[[Homestar Quiz]]|Mirror:sb_impressive.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I am the very strongest. You guys are not very strong."|[[Original Book|original book]] line|Mirror:sb_strongest.mp3}}
*{{qotw-nd|"Matt Equals MATT!!"|[[50 emails]]}}
|}

== See Also ==
*[[Strong Bad Evolution]]
*[[Strong Bad Other Costumes|Other Costumes]]
*[[Nicknames#Strong Bad|Nicknames]]
*[[Senor Cardgage]]
*[[History according to Strong Bad]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:vcr_sb.html|watch Strong Bad's character video]]
*[[HR:vcr_sb.swf|view the Flash file for Strong Bad's character video]]
*[[HR:cheatintro.swf|Strong Bad's website]], from [[website]]
*[mailto:strongbad@homestarrunner.com Email Strong Bad]

{{Characters|Strong Bad}}

{{subtitlesLinks|vcr_sb}}

[[Category:Strong Badia]]

Talk:Drive-Thru

2007-03-20T14:23:11Z

Meneth: /* Speed to Europa */ relativity

==Pretend Reference??==
Strong Bad ordering a "Chateau Pretend" may be a reference to [[Wikipedia:François-René de Chateaubriand|François-René de Chateaubriand]], a French author/political figure from the 18-19th century. Strong bad uses the name in relation to food, and Chateaubriand was known for involvement in culinary arts.
:I think you're making the reference unnecessarily complicated. The way I see it, Chateau Pretend is a pretend wine. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 11:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::Lies. All lies. Clearly I'm the only one who knows how it all went down. Cast your mind back to [[car]], when Homestar gave a shout-out to Lemon Pretend. Whilst we can safely assume that within the fictional universe of Free Country, USA, Lemon Pretend is a type of pie, a search on Google turns back no recipies or even references to the existence of a Lemon Pretend pie (outside of the Homestar Runner reference, of course). It is through this method that I have come to the conclusion that the reference here is not a Real-World one, but one of the Inside demographic, and, as such, refers to the [[Strong Bad Email]] that usually goes by the name of "car". Thank you for your time. --[[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 12:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Um... I'm not all that convinced that having the word 'Pretend' in a foodstuff's name really qualifies it as an inside reference. Unless you can find a way of working Great Uncle Pawdabber's Pre-Tend Ice Cream Showdown into the reference somehow. {{User:Kahteh/sig}} 16:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Considering the three instances of the word "[[Pretend]]" in three separate cartoons, this should be considered an Inside Joke and a page should be made for it. After all, we've made pages for [[All Is On|less]]. --[[User:Ppk01|Ppk01]] 18:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::It doesn't have to be a reference to be funny. Pawdabber's ice cream is pretend because it's really just sour cream and The Cheat fur. Chateau Pretend is pretend because the only real part of the restaurant is a cardboard box. There's nothing notable about Strong Bad using a regular English word to mean the same thing on two occasions. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 19:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::Most likely a reference to [[Wikipedia:Château Latour|Château Latour]], considering he orders a bottle of it.
:::::::Agreed. Chateaubriand is a real stretch. [[User:JudahNielsen|JudahNielsen]] 22:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::::''My'' first thought was that the wine was a tad [[Glossary#P|pretendous]]. [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Name that Tune ==

Gah... The tune the whale plays is ''extraordinarily'' familiar. I just can't place it, for the life of me. It's very frustrating. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


:It sounds really familar to me to. It's really annoying. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::It reminds me a LOT of the music from one of the towns in [[Wikipedia:Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door|Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:36, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::I think I've got it! It's the first few notes of the music that plays in Koopa Village in the original [[Wikipedia:Paper Mario|Paper Mario]]! Nailed it! [[:Image:Crappy Speaker Song.ogg|Compare]] the [[:Image:Koopa Village.ogg|two]]. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 10:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Those two don't sound that similar to me... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::The key may be a bit off. The tune seems similar to me, though. I very may well be tone-deaf. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Here's another idea [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Drive-Thru&diff=431666&oldid=431665 that was proposed]. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>The tune that the drive-thru whale plays appears to be the first few notes from the theme song for the television show ''Night Court''.</blockquote>
After listening to [http://youtube.com/watch?v=7pod-uZH8s8 the theme from Night Court], I think they're similar, but different. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 13:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it's from a game, possibly one on this site? (doubt it) - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 13:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Call me weird, but to me it sounds somewhat similar to the title screen themes in the Pokemon games. -Sumgirl

I think it's the beat that makes it familiar, rather than the tune. The beat is more or less the same as the [[Everybody Knows It]] song. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 17:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

TSSG3: When you try to match the two up, [[:Image:Speaker Song BW Koopa Village.ogg|even when you're nice]] to the beats, you don't get much of a hit. ¤ {{User:The Mu/sig}} 20:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Isn't it the chorus from the Gorillaz track "Dirty Harry"?

:I looked it up and it matches pretty well. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

It's not Paper Mario, I have that game, or Night Court (I looked it up on YouTube). [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't know, I'm pretty convinced by Night Court. The groove is different, but the melodic contour is the same. Both songs start on Bb, move through a major chord (w/ ornamentation) to rest briefly on F, peak on Ab, and descend by way of G and F. The crappy-speaker song is more or less what you'd get if you took Night Court, changed the tempo, set it to a different beat, and changed some of the little in-between notes. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]]

For the musically challenged: [[:Image:Drive-Thru Tune.png]]. The real tune from the toon, the Koopa Village tune that TSSG3 posted, Night Court pulled from some MIDI I found on the net, and Dirty Harry, from me, since I own that one... all shifted to start on C, so they're easier to compare. They're don't really seem all that similar to me... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

The 2nd half of the song is identical for all intents and purposes to night court and the first half is 'similar' -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 03:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It sounds a little Daytime TV to me, and it's said right after the word Password...does anyone know what the theme to that gameshow was? I've been trying to YouTube it for a few minutes...actually something in the background could have been it. I'll keep searching. There's 4 themes, I can find...one. Just a thought, probably nothing. ~ Shadix

The tune reminds me a bit of the music from the first level of the NES game Mappy Land.. but is slightly different. --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 05:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Which in turn was a lyricless version of "This little light of mine". The whales song does sound similar.{{User:Sesshoumaru Cian/sig}}
== Distorted speaker ==

The lines Strong Bad hears as "Sever your leg", I hear that the speaker is saying "Serve to your right", or something similar... and, {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Drive-Thru&diff=431603&oldid=431600 like Shwoo}}, I hear "seventh window". The others I hear the same as SB, but I wouldn't be surprised if I'm mishearing any or all of these... what do you think? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:I distinctly heard "seventh window" too, even before there was a transcript. I stand with "sever your leg", though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 10:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:I can't really hear "serve to your right". There's no t sound. {{User:Shwoo/sig}} 10:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::It's confirmed in the New Stuff section. The description is "Sever your leg, please, sir." --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 11:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Not really, the toon description there could be quoting SB, it was one of the funny lines in the toon after all... Oh well, ''{waits patiently for QotW}''. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 11:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I heard "serve to your right" the first time I watched it, but after listening it to a few more times, I hear "sever your leg". "Seventh window" is definetely correct. - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 13:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::In terms of the window, I almost hear "south window". [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 15:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::I hear "sever your leg" and that's all I hear. [[User:DeFender1031|DeFender1031]] 01:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

It tells the lobster to sever its leg, or whatever it really said, and the lobster severed its leg...

I hear "steve turn around to the seventh window"
I absolutely hear "steve turn around to the seventh window" as well -[[User:JamesDean|JamesDean]] 03:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

The distorted speaker also reminded me of the ones from [[what I want]]. [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 22:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I hear "the lake head". In all seriousness, I think TBC actually said "sever your leg" because they don't want people thinking that it's anything else.--[[User:Bobo the King|Bobo the King]] 09:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Jeeves ==

Reginald Jeeves is a character created by P.G. Wodehouse who appears in a number of short stories and novels. In the literature, Jeeves works as the valet of Bertie Wooster. Due to the popularity of the series, the name Jeeves is frequently used in popular culture to refer to chauffeurs, butlers, and waiters. [[User:Spiderbaby|Spiderbaby]] 14:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

==Whale speaker==

What fast food place has a whale for its speaker? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 15:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
: Invisible ones? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I think the trend of having the order speaker/mic live inside of a mascot started with Jack-in-the-box, which used to have the speaker/mic inside a clown's mouth. [[User:Nsayer|Nsayer]] 18:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== That was...odd. ==

I don't really see what this short was about... --[[User:Das654|Das654]] 16:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:That was my initial reaction too. You can talk more about it at the forum instead of here, please. There's a nice link to the thread at the bottom of Drive-Thru. -{{User:Brightstar Shiner/sig}} 16:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
::As I propose below, I think its about something that was on cable on March 18th. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 19:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

==Echo==

*Is the echo becoming a running gag? That is, an echo where there wouldn't normally be one? [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 16:18, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
**Only other instance I could find by searching the wiki for "echo" was in [[4 branches]]. But it is a running gag in [[wikipedia:Rosencrantz_and_Guildenstern_Are_Dead| Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead]]. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 19:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== Pro-awesome ==

I hear "'''B'''ro-awesome". I don't know what that means, but I don't hear a "P" sound. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
: And, while on the subject, I don't hear "Steer your car around" either, though in that case I'm kinda unsure ''what'' I'm hearing. I think part of it is "turn around" though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with Bro-awesome, but I hear "Stee your car around" which just sounds like the whale didn't pronounce the R very clearly, and I can't imagine what else that would be. --SamuraiMoose
::Yup, I definitely hear bro. {{User:Dr._Clash/sig}} 20:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah. I hear 'bro-awesome', no question about it. [[User:Yadaman|Yadaman]] 13:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== a blue one? ==

Strong Bad says "how 'bout a blue one for my little friend"; does this seem to anyone else like a possible reference to Strong Sad's "the blue ones"? [[User:66.251.25.205|66.251.25.205]] 18:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:I thought about that too, but I think it's a coincidence — there's nothing else to tie the two together. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:It's a fluke, there's no connection.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 21:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:It did occur to me as well. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

::I thought it was a reference to [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] where everyone drink colored ones. But The Cheat drink a red one and bubs the blue one. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:I think it is, personally. - [[User:Volbeat A The Cheat|Volbeat A The Cheat]] 07:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Rocket Sound ==

Hey, the sound for The Compressor sounds a lot like Bubs's pumpkin from the [[Pumpkin Carve-nival|Carve-nival]]. [[User:71.192.94.44|71.192.94.44]]

== Actual reference to what was on TV last night? ==

My little brother informs me that he saw something on cable yesterday concerning the potential for real lobsters on Europa. I want to put together a more solid reference than "my little brother told me"--for instance the name of the show and even better, the episode. Anybody know a good way to find out what was on TV last night? Or maybe someone saw the show and can remember what it was called? [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 19:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it was Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, the episode "Guess WHAT'S Coming to Dinner?" Chaos!

== Fun with Facts ==
"Sperm whales are not known to eat lobsters, Europa-pean or otherwise." To this I'd like to add "Drive through speakers are not known to eat anything, or have a hidden Europan-lobster-powered rocket, or stand out in the middle of a field where no restaurant has ever been or ever will be. [[User:PolarBoy|PolarBoy]] 19:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. That "fun fact" isn't much fun at all. It was probably just some weird, bizarre ending TBC came up with. It had nothing to do with the mascot being a whale.--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 19:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:Whoever first wrote this article must have been desperate for "fun" facts and "trivia", because some of them seem pretty weak.--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 21:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
:: Yeah, what the crap was that about? *mumble*... {{User:Visorbot 386/sig}} 00:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Reference? ==

Just looking at the article of the day, I think the table in the easter egg is the top of the [[Jail|jail]]. Anyone else? - {{User:HeyMama/sig}}
:Looks like the same box to me. ([[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 23:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC))
::The shading is different in a few spots, it doesn't have "JAIL" or "A BOX" or the bars, but is clearly based on that box. If you view the .swf file in something like media player classic, or directly in the browser, and resize the window so you can see further below on the box.. and flip it horizontally.. it does share features. Overall shape, and most shading. --[[User:AshyRaccoon|AshyRaccoon]] 02:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Do we really need the "300 ft. equals 100 yd...." under the trivia section? It's not really needed, and it's got nothing to do with anything. Also, did anyone else think that this was a little more... "outlandish" than usual?--{{User:DongleGoblin/sig}} 20:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

:No, I think that part could be left out. The kilometers could be left in, as there are some Wiki Users from "across the pond."--{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 02:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Extra Sauce? ==
When Strong Bad orders, he asks for extra sauce. In Strongest Man in the World, Homestar tells Pom-Pom to "Pour on that extra sauce" when they're training. Possible inside reference?
:I don't think so. [[User:Some kind of scientist|Some kind of scientist]] 22:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

::I'm pretty sure this is a coincidence, especially because a lot of "specials" include some kind of sauce. It's a common thing to order extra sauce. Plus, I'm pretty sure he said "extra-size," mispronouncing exercise. --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 02:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Actually, I guess the transcript does say "extra sauce." But I still think it's a total coincidence. --{{User:NevaDie/sig}} 03:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Weird Al Reference? ==

I saw that Weird Als music video for "Trapped In The Drive-Thru" was released on Myspace Video yesterday. Reference?

:First of all, SIGN YOUR NAME!!!! And, second, yeah, when I saw the title, I thought, "Hey, is this a ref to "TitDT?" It MIGHT be a reference, just MIGHT. I '''do''' think it's too simalar sounding to be a coincidence...I mean, TWO videos about a drive-thru in, like, 1 1/2 days??!?!?! What do all a y'all think??? -{{User:WeirdAl/sig}} 00:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

::First of all, NO SHOUTING!!!! :-p Well, considering that it takes TBC about a day and a night to animate a sbemail (I think they said that in an interview), and that this toon is much shorter than recent sbemails, it's definitely possible. But it would have required them to see the video as soon as it was released, drop the toon/sbemail they were working on, come up with an idea in no time and start working on the animation immediately. And for all that effort, there is no clear reference to the Weird Al video in this toon (as far as I can see). So yes, it's possible, but highly unlikely. Definitely a stretch.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 03:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Speed to Europa ==

:''For the rocket to have traveled the minimum distance of 628,089,000 kilometers (390,276,411 miles, 4.2AU) to Europa and back in the 1:30 between the rocket's launch and its landing, it must have traveled at an average speed exceeding 23 times the speed of light.''
I moved this here from the article, since we have several precedents of moving calculations to the talk page. (See [[Talk:A Folky Tale#Physics|Talk:A Folky Tale → Physics]] for an example.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
: For reference, I ''would'' like to note that the calculation is more than possible, as there are is no "lost time" between the rocket's launch and landing (ie. no cuts where time would have elapsed.) And I think it's worth noting on the main page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I note that this calculation doesn't take the [[Wikipedia:Theory of Relativity|Theory of Relativity]] into account. If it did, the rocket would return a long time before it left. — [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 14:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

== Going too far? ==

Ok, is this just strange? [http://www.sae.org/technical/papers/2003-01-2586 Europa and Lobster connection, not the arctic connection.]

Blatant Lies

2007-03-07T11:19:27Z

Meneth: /* Other */ spelling

[[Image:Notswimpractice.PNG|thumb|"On Saturday I certainly don't wake up at 6 A.M., put on a Speedo, and go to swim practice."]]
Characters have been known to '''blatantly lie''' to one another or to the audience, often in an attempt to try to persuade others that something is either true or untrue, when in fact the opposite is extremely obvious.

==Appearances==
===Strong Bad Emails===
*Email [[sugarbob]] — Strong Bad types in different colors and fonts to try to convince the emailer's girlfriend that he is taken by several other girlfriends.
*Email [[lures & jigs]] — Strong Bad accidentally admits to not knowing anything about the ladies. He then hurriedly tries to rectify his slip-up before running off.
*Email [[huttah!]] — Strong Bad says that [[The Cheat]] looks like a cheese or an anvil, then says that they are two of the finest things in life when The Cheat walks in. He then tapes a piece of paper reading "the cheat" on the [[Compy 386]] to make it look as if his emails are written to The Cheat.
*Email [[stunt double]] — Strong Bad says that he doesn't use a stunt double. When ''Dangeresque II: This Time, It's Not Dangeresque 1'' is then shown, it is obvious that Strong Sad is Strong Bad's stunt double.
*Email [[different town]] — Strong Bad is singing while standing on the stool when Strong Sad walks in. Strong Bad claims that he was just checking the lights.
*Email [[crying]] — Strong Bad begins to sniffle over [[Li'l Brudder]], and runs off claiming that he just has "a food" in the oven.
*Email [[other days]] — Strong Bad tries to convince the viewer that on Saturdays, he does not go to swim practice, and instead takes battle axe lessons. In an [[Easter egg]], Strong Sad is seen telling Strong Bad that they are late for swim practice.
*Email [[extra plug]] — Strong Bad says that the hot girl that he will be dancing with will be The Cheat, before catching himself and stating that it will be an actual hot girl.
*Email [[part-time job]] — Strong Bad sings "Comin' in to work on time.." while coming to his job at [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] 15 minutes late.
*Email [[secret identity]] — Strong Bad says that his secret identity is The Poopsmith, only to be disproven when The Poopsmith himself walks in.
*Email [[senior prom]] — Strong Bad claims that he got a message on his "answering machine" from "Delilelia". It is obvious that he is the one providing the girl's voice, and that the "answering machine" is just a clock radio.
*Email [[road trip]] — Strong Bad emphasizes that a "not originally yellow spotted sheet" is from Strong Sad's room, and not his room.
*Email [[cliffhangers]] — After [[Coach Z]] and [[Homestar Runner]] accuse themselves of being the [[Thnikkaman]] and stealing the [[Lappy 486]], respectively, they both try to cover it up by talking about "sports team".
*Email [[strong badathlon]] — Strong Bad claims that his strongest event in the [[Strong Badathlon (contest)|Strong Badathlon]] is "Probably Something with Guitars, lasers, Robots, and Hot Girls". This event is only shown in [[Powered by The Cheat]] form, obviously suggesting that the event did not actually take place.
*Email [[the movies]] — [[The King of Town]] insists that his many trays of sizzling fajitas came from a box of [[Wikipedia:Milk Duds|Milk Duds]].

===Marzipan's Answering Machine===
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 2.0]]
**[[Pom Pom]] calls and apparently tells Marzipan about something that Homestar said. Homestar repeatedly insists that he did not say that, and that Pom Pom is crazy.
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 6.0]]
**Strong Bad calls, saying that he has a real girlfriend for whom he needs to buy a Valentine's Day present.
**Homestar calls asking Marzipan what to get his girlfriend for Valentine's Day. He calls Marzipan annoying and overbearing, and then realizes his mistake, at which point he begins pretending to be a dial tone.
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]]
**Strong Bad calls, saying that tofu is made from baby seals.
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]]
**Strong Sad calls to ask Marzipan if she wants to come over and watch the ''V.I. Warshawski'' DVD. he later calls again and admits that he doesn't really have the DVD.

===Other===
*[[Halloween Awards Show]] — Strong Bad claims to have a super-hot girlfriend who recently got sucked into a wormhole.
*[[Where's The Cheat?]] — Strong Bad calls Marzipan, pretending to be Homestar Runner, saying that he killed Pom Pom, ''while'' Homestar was at Marzipan's house.
*[[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] — For almost the entire 'toon, Strong Bad and his gang attempt to convince Homestar that there is something cool in their paper bags. Bubs convinces Homestar that he knows nothing about Strong Bad's plan to get free drinks. Later on, Strong Bad tells Homestar that the thing in the bag escaped into the mountains.
*[[Broken Compy Menu]] — When Bubs asks Homestar, who was previously arguing, what he is doing at the stand, Homestar replies that he was talking to nobody, everybody, or [[Strong Mad]]. When asked where Strong Mad is now, Homestar says that he flew away. Later on, Bubs claims to Homestar that the shotgunned [[Compy 386]] is a low-priced automobile.
*[[Homestar Presents: Presents]] — While talking on the phone, Coach Z claims that he is not alone and his phone is plugged in, but nobody is nearby and the [[Disconnected Telephones|phone]] is unplugged.
*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]] — After being caught making out with a drawing of [[The Ugly One]], Strong Bad claims that it is a piece of pizza and hurriedly stuffs the drawing into his mouth.
*[[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]] — The King of Town tries to convince Homestar that he is not trying to find a ham sandwich that he had buried in the [[Spooky Woods]] when he was nine. [[The Poopsmith]] is seen right next to him, digging holes.

==See Also==
*[[Aliases Used in Prank Calls]]
*[[Strong Bad Lore]]
*[[Strong Bad's Ladies]]

[[Category:Exaggeration running gags]]

Let us give TANKS!

2006-11-22T17:44:47Z

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{{toonnav|Holiday Toon|ccdo5|Fan Costumes '06|Homestarloween Party}}
[[Image:Let Us Give Tanks.PNG|thumb|"I can never tell you guys apart!"]]
Blue Laser invites the Cheat Commandos to Thanksgiving dinner.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Green Helmets]], {{film|Gunhaver}}, {{film|Silent Rip}}, {{film|Reinforcements}}, {{film|Crackotage}}, {{film|Reynold}}, {{film|Firebert}}, {{film|Fightgar}}, [[Blue Laser Minions]], {{film|Blue Laser Commander}}, [[Ripberger]], [[Oliver Smidgen]], [[Reynold's Brother]]

'''Places:''' [[Cheat Commandos HQ]], Blue Laser Cottage, Reynold's Parents' House

'''Date:''' November 21, 2006

'''Running Time:''' 5:00

'''Page Title:''' A Very Tremendous Chimendez Thanksgiving

==Transcript==
''{The title appears — ''"LET US GIVE TANKS!!" written by A. Chimendez'' — over a shot of the Cheat Commando base in red, orange, yellow, and brown hills in the background and falling leaves. Light, percussive music plays.}''

''{Gunhaver and Silent Rip appear in front of the control panel and video screen, watching shaky video of three Cheat Commandos being assaulted by blue lasers and explosions on a smoky, war-torn landscape.}''

'''CHEAT COMMANDO:''' We're taking heavy losses, sir. They've got us pinned down! We really need—

''{The video image is interrupted by a siren and a yellow and orange screen with the text, "Thanksgiving Break Alert"}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' All right! Thanksgiving break!

''{The screen fades through static back to the Cheat Commandos}''

'''CHEAT COMMANDO:''' But sir! We could really use some—

''{Gunhaver turns off the monitor and turns to Silent Rip}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' I ''love'' Thanksgiving break!

''{The camera focuses on Silent Rip}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' Uh, shouldn't we go help him?

''{The camera zooms out to include Gunhaver, along with Reinforcements and Fightgar}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Naw, he's just one of those green helmets. We got like fifty of them. So, what's everybody doing for the holiday?

''{The camera shifts to Reynold}''

'''REYNOLD:''' I'm going to stay at my parents' house! If they haven't rented out my room... again... to my brother.

''{Gunhaver salutes the Cheat Commandos as they leave}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Well, have a good time, soldiers. I'll just be here in case Blue Laser tries to blow up over-the-river-and-through-the-woods... so that no one to grandmother's house... can go.

''{The scene shifts to a small cottage in the autumn woods with a gravel path and smoke rising out of the stone chimney. Transition music plays}''

''{Cut to the inside of the cottage. A Blue Laser minion is preparing a turkey in the kitchen. Blue Laser Commander enters, brandishing a meat fork.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' I thought I told you to fiendishly dice the evil onions!

'''BLUE LASER MINION 1:''' No sir.

''{The camera pans to a second Blue Laser Minion chopping onions with fiendish faces drawn on them on the counter.}''

'''BLUE LASER MINION 2:''' That was me, sir.

''{Camera pans back to Blue Laser Commander}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' I can never tell you two apart! ''{hurls the meat fork into the offscreen second minion's eye}''

'''BLUE LASER MINION 2:''' Ow.

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' There! Now you're the one with the fork stuck in your eye!

''{The door crashes open and the Fightgar, Firebert, and Silent Rip enter, armed with guns.}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Sorry Blue Laser — the only thanks ''you'll'' be giving is getting shot by us with our bullet-shooting guns!

''{Blue Laser Commander approaches the Cheat Commandos}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' What?!

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Aw, just kiddin'. ''{smiles, along with Firebert}'' Thanks for havin' us over!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' ''{laughs and smiles}'' You really had me going for a second there. Get in here, you guys!

''{Fightgar, Firebert, and Silent Rip enter, followed by Ripberger}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Ripberger, you made it! ''{Ripberger stops at the door}'' I thought you were only available for a limited time with three proofs of purchase!

'''RIPBERGER:''' I brought some ambrosia salad! ''{displays the salad}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Uh! Where's Gunhaver?!

''{The camera pans to Fightgar and Silent Rip}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' ''{scratching his head}'' Uh, we kinda didn't give him your invitation. Gunhaver has a bit of a hard time cutting loose.

''{The scene cuts to Gunhaver in the Cheat Commandos base, saluting a flag labeled "The Flag" which is being blown by a fan.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Forty-seven! Forty-eight! Forty-nine! Fifty! C'mon Gunhaver, you maggot! Give me fifty more! One! Two! Three!

''{The scene cuts back to the cottage, with Blue Laser Commander and Fightgar at a table with plates, the turkey, and yams with marshmallows.}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Uh... I guess... Claude Monet, and um... Manchester United!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' That's good, that's good! Now what about you, Silent Rip?!

''{The camera pans over to Silent Rip.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' I'm thankful for this bountiful Blue Laser Thanksgiving action playset!

''{A "ding" noise is heard and the words "CHEAP AS FREE" appear in a cloud bubble in the corner of the scene}''

''{The camera cuts to Crackotage}''

'''CRACKOTAGE:''' I'm thankful for the gift of rhyme!!

''{The camera cuts to Ripberger}''

'''RIPBERGER:''' Ambrosia salad!

''{The camera cuts back to Crackotage}''

'''CRACKOTAGE:''' I'm also thankful for this lime! ''{holds up a lime}'' Hibbety-jeebity!

''{The camera cuts to Blue Laser Commander}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Plutonium at closeout prices!

''{The camera cuts to a Blue Laser minion}''

'''BLUE LASER MINION 1:''' I'm thankful I don't have a fork in my eye, sir.

''{The camera cuts back to Blue Laser Commander}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' My Nana's new hip!

''{The camera cuts to the Blue Laser minion with a fork stuck through his visor into his eye}''

'''BLUE LASER MINION 2:''' I'm... thankful for this fork in my eye.

''{The scene cuts to Gunhaver, facing the camera in front of the control panel.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' So I exchanged it for something of lesser value, and they gave me the rest in store credit!

''{The camera comes behind Gunhaver's back to show him standing in front of the video monitor with the anonymous Cheat Commando onscreen.}''

'''CHEAT COMMANDO:''' That's great sir! A real value. But we could really use some air support.

'''GUNHAVER:''' Yeah, I should go too. Gotta check in on Blue Laser.

'''CHEAT COMMANDO:''' Please, NO—

''{Gunhaver brings up the Blue Laser cottage on the video monitor, showing Blue Laser Commander, Fightgar, Silent Rip, and a Blue Laser minion at the table with the turkey.}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' Ambros-er-a salad... sayin' right, right, right, right...

'''GUNHAVER:''' Tight buns! Blue Laser has captured the Cheat Commandos and is forcing them to sit down to a delicious meal and pleasant conversation! Hang on, boys. Daddy Gunhavvy's on his way! ''{walks away from the monitor}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' But I'm ''not'' thankful for that guy over there with the camera!

''{The scene cuts to Reinforcements, who is using a camera and lights to record the Thanksgiving dinner.}''

'''REINFORCEMENTS:''' Hey, guys.

''{The camera focuses on Silent Rip and Blue Laser Commander}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' Uh-oh. You know what ''that'' means.

''{The camera cuts to Fightgar.}''

'''FIGHTGAR:''' It won't be long before...

''{Gunhaver comes out of the turkey pointing a handgun.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Gobble, gobble... you're in trobble!

'''CRACKOTAGE:''' ''{offscreen}'' Hey, that's not bad!

''{The camera cuts to Blue Laser Commander.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Gunhaver! You actually have a gun!

''{The camera cuts back to Gunhaver, with the silhouettes of two Cheat Commandos in the foreground}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' Cheat Commandos, run! For cover! ''{camera zooms in}'' Blue Laser is clearly trying to have you all over for dinner!

''{The camera cuts to Silent Rip.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' Uh, yeah! He invited you too! But we didn't tell you because we were afraid you'd do something like this!

''{The camera cuts back to Gunhaver.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' And I did! The Cheat Commandos win again!

''{The camera cuts to Blue Laser Commander.}''

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Well, since you're here... ''{clasps his hands together}'' Play us a song, won't you Charles?

''{The camera pans past several Cheat Commandos, all murmuring in agreement}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' A—a song? No, I couldn't possibly... it's been so long, I...

''{The camera cuts back to Gunhaver, with a small, dirty Cheat Commando wearing a cap behind him.}''

'''OLIVER SMIDGEN:''' Won't you play us a song, Gun'aver?

'''GUNHAVER:''' All right, you talked me into it. One song!

''{Cut to Gunhaver sitting at a black upright piano with the Cheat Commandos and Blue Laser gathered around.}''

'''GUNHAVER:''' This is one everybody knows, so give me a hand, boys. ''{begins playing the piano and singing}'' Buy all our playsets and...

'''CHEAT COMMANDOS AND BLUE LASER:''' Ooh!

'''GUNHAVER:''' ''{singing}'' Buy all our playsets and...

''{Ripberger descends upside-down from the ceiling.}''

'''CHEAT COMMANDOS AND BLUE LASER:''' Ah!

'''GUNHAVER:''' ''{singing}'' Buy all our playsets and...

'''EVERYONE:''' ''{singing}'' Toys!

''{The camera pans past Fightgar, Silent Rip, and the Blue Laser minion with the fork in his eye. The camera focuses on the piano keys, which Gunhaver is playing the Cheat Commandos theme song, and then cuts back to everyone in front of the piano}''

'''EVERYONE:''' Yeah!

'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' A holiday classic!

''{Smoke begins wafting through the top of the room.}''

'''SILENT RIP:''' Uh, what's that smell?

'''FIGHTGAR:''' How should I know? You're the one called Silent Rip!

'''GUNHAVER:''' That's all me. I stuck a nuclear device in the oven in case I didn't make it out of here alive! ''{several of the attendees open their mouths in surprise}''

''{The scene cuts to Reynold's room, with his brother playing video games. There are several speakers in the room; the ones in the foreground are shaking as they play music. The Blue Laser cottage can be seen outside the window with smoke rising from it.}''

'''MUSIC:''' No one understands me! No one understands me!

''{Reynold enters the room, covering his ears}''

'''REYNOLD:''' Will you turn that noise down?!

'''REYNOLD'S BROTHER:''' You're so lame.

'''MUSIC:''' No one understands me... but YOU!'''

''{The Blue Laser cottage explodes in a mushroom cloud and the glass window of Reynold's room shatters}''

''{The screen shifts to a picture of Gunhaver coming out of the turkey, with the message, "Happy Thanksgiving! from those Cheat Commandos" and the "Buy all our playsets and toys" music.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on "Cheat Commandos" to see Oliver Smidgen and Reynold's Brother action figures.
*At the end, click on the turkey drumstick to see Blue Laser order around a minion. 
*:'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' ''{Holding a plate of food}'' I need you to take this plate of food, make a milkshake out of it, and spread it on Nana's gums for her! 
*:'''BLUE LASER MINION:''' I'm going to go ahead and disobey a direct order, sir. 
*:'''BLUE LASER COMMANDER:''' Understandable!!

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The "Green Helmets" are minor, expendable characters added so "heroes" can die without losing any members of the main cast. Such characters are frequently called "[[Wikipedia:Redshirt (stock character)|Redshirts]]", due to the fact that such characters in [[Wikipedia:Star Trek|Star Trek]] usually wore red shirts.

===Trivia===
*This is the first time Ripberger is heard speaking.
*This is the first Cheat Commandos cartoon to feature civilian characters besides Reynold.
*The Blue Laser Commander exclaims, "Gunhaver! You actually have a gun!" Indeed, in spite of his name, this is the first time Gunhaver is actually seen holding a gun. However, his gun appeared in [[Shopping for Danger]], though Blue Laser Commander never saw it.
*This is the first time that we have heard another name of a Cheat Commando. (Blue Laser says "Play us a song, won't you, Charles?" to Gunhaver.)

===Remarks===
*The notes that Gunhaver can be seen playing on the piano do not match the notes heard (although there is a similarity).
*In action figure form, Reynold's brother still has cartoon-style eyes, although it may be because of his kindergoth physique.

===Fixed Goofs===
[[Image:Cheat Commandos Lime No Decend.PNG|thumb|The floating lime]]
*When Crackotage's arm went down after showing the lime, the lime didn't descend with his arm. This was quickly fixed by removing the downwards arm movement.

===Inside References===
*The Lil' Steiny piano is a reference to [[Stiny]]'s nickname, Li'l Stiny, from [[superhero name]].
*The page title refers to [[A. Chimendez]].
*This is another instance of [[Blood|blood]] in a cartoon.
*This is another instance of [[Cheap as Free]] in a cartoon.
*The price of each Easter egg [[Action_Figure_Character_Variations|action figure]] is [[$11.01]].

===Real-World References===
*The Lil' Steiny piano is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Steinway & Sons|Steinway & Sons]] pianos.
*"Over the river and through the woods" is a reference to the Christmas song, [[Wikipedia:Over the River and Through the Woods|Over the River and Through the Woods]], by Lydia Maria Child.
*Oliver Smidgen is an allusion to [[Wikipedia:Oliver Twist|Oliver Twist]] and Tiny Tim.
*[[Wikipedia:Claude Monet|Claude Monet]] (1840-1926) was a French Impressionist painter.
*[[Wikipedia:Manchester United|Manchester United]] Football Club is a world-famous English football club.
*Reynold's brother dresses and acts very much like a stereotypical [[Wikipedia:Mansonite|kindergoth]]. The music he listens to is a parody of [[Wikipedia:Punk rock|punk]] and [[Wikipedia:Emo (music)|emo]] music. The way in which the words "no one understands me" are sung is similar to the way "hope and understanding" are sung in the emo band [[Wikipedia:Spoken (band)|Spoken]]'s song "Wind In My Sails."
*The poster in Reynold's Brother's room displays the [[Wikipedia:Anarchy|anarchy]] symbol.
*The gun that Gunhaver is holding resembles a Colt .45 [[Wikipedia:M1911|M1911]].
*The second package in the toy Easter egg states "Next Gen Gamepad!" in the corner; this is a reference to the new game consoles which were recently released.

==External Links==
*[[HR:ccdo5.html|watch "Let Us Give TANKS!"]]
*[[HR:ccdo5.swf|view the Flash file for "Let Us Give TANKS!"]]
*[[Forum:10241|forum thread re: Let Us Give TANKS!]]

{{CheatCommandos}}

Talk:Everybody to the Limit (Live)

2006-10-08T21:37:06Z

Meneth:

"The crowd cheering louder when Strong Bad mentions The Cheat is a reference to huttah!"

How is it a reference? --[[User:Gafaddict|Gafaddict]] 17:45, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

I think the reference-writer is saying that the louder cheering when The Cheat is mentioned refers to the fact that The Cheat is more popular than Strong Bad, which was brought up in huttah. Still not a good reference though. [[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora Szalinski]] 19:12, 25 Mar 2005 (MST)

Spoken vs Sung:
Can any of this song actually be said to be -sung-?

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you gotta wonder.... if they're now officially making money off the word "Fhqwhgads", could the person who originally sent in the email and used the word "fhqwhgads" legally sue them for royalties?

:No. Their [[Legal|Terms of Use]] says they can use anything you send them. [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 21:37, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, there was this one time a friend of the sender came to this wiki and asked to add a fun fact about his friend, but it got STUFF'd and declined. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:37, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC)

This isnt live for real is it?--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 00:54, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

No, just made to sound like it. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 03:34, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Store Thank You Messages

2006-09-08T07:52:31Z

Meneth: /* Decompiled ActionScript */

This page will describe the special "Thank You" messages from the Store. The title should be better, but I can't think of a better one. Any ideas on what it should be moved to? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:10, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== Mirrors ==
Can we get mirrors to the toons that we usually can't see? Or would that be going too far legally? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 15:22, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
:Oh yeah and that's kinda my question too that's been nagging at me... --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:33, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

::Someone had made a mirror and posted the link to the Forum. I cannot find the post, though. If someone can, that would be great.{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 21:22, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

== How does the flash know something's been bought? ==

How does the flash know something's been bought? There must be some kind of parameter or something passed to the HTML that tells the flash that an Item's been bought... Does anyone know? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:02, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

:From what I can tell, the JavaScript on the page reads the browser referrer, then adds it as a Flash variable (for example, "thankyou.swf?rf=''Referrer goes here''"). I guess that if it doesn't match a preset value embedded in the Flash, then it takes you to the backdoor message. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 16:15, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

::Hmmm... quite interesting. So we'd just need to disassemble the Actionscript to figure out what the referrer codes are (or is)... --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:23, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Just decomplied thankyou.swf. See below for the actionscript. It seems like the only referrers are "https://order.store.yahoo.com/" and everything else. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 16:40, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

===Decompiled ActionScript===
<pre>// Frame 1 actions...

function masterPresent () {
return true
}
function controllerLoaded () {
var _local7 = _root.rf.substr(0, 30)
if (_local7 == "https://order.store.yahoo.com/") {
var _local6 = new Array ("thankyou_celegante.swf","thankyou_bubsness.swf",
"thankyou_song.swf","thankyou_cinnamon.swf")
var _local2 = sceneChoice = Math.floor(Math.random() * ((_local6.length - 1)))
var _local4 = new Date ()
var _local5 = LocalData.load("ty", "lt")
var _local3 = LocalData.load("ty", "n")
if ((_local5 == undefined) || (_local3 == undefined)) {
}
else if ((!isNaN (_local5.getTime())) && (!isNaN (_local3))) {
if ((_local4.getTime() - _local5.getTime()) / 60000 < 10) {
_local2 = Number(_local3)
if (_local4.getHours() < 5) {
}
}
}
_local2 = 3
LocalData.save("ty", "lt", _local4)
LocalData.save("ty", "n", _local2)
_root.content_mc.loadMovie(_local6[_local2])
} else {
_root.content_mc.loadMovie("thankyou_bonus.swf")
}
}
test_txt.text = _root.rf
stop()
_root.onEnterFrame = function () {
if ((_root.getBytesLoaded() > 4) && (_root.getBytesLoaded() >= _root.getBytesTotal())) {
controllerLoaded ()
delete(_root.onEnterFrame)
}
}</pre>

Sweetness! I'm making the links and will watch them shortly to see which one's which (though it's pretty obvious)...
*https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_celegante.swf
*https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_bubsness.swf
*https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_song.swf
*https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_cinnamon.swf
*https://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou_bonus.swf

--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:07, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
:Okay, I tried the files above and couldn't get any to work properly except the bonus. They all blank out for me. I can only guess that they need to be loaded through the main SWF file. I'll see if a custom-built HTML file works... --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:14, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
::I managed to make it so I can see one of the toons. Though all the files had to be saved locally in order for this to work. It was the homestar singing one, and unfortunately it kept playing every time I reloaded the page regardless. Then I tried chaning the clock and saw the late night homestar, and when I changed it back saw the version with strong bad and all his money. It's still stuck on that one and I'm not really sure why. The flash shouldn't save information across sections unless it's setting some cookie... is it doing that? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:30, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
:::It might be easier to click [http://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou.swf?rf=https://order.store.yahoo.com/ here] and press back to see all of them. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}} 17:41, 19 February 2006 (UTC) '''EDIT:''' Found why they cannot be watched from a direct URL link: in frame 5, the actionscript below is present:
<pre>
// Frame 5 actions...

if (_parent.masterPresent()) {
blocker_mc._visible = false
content_mc.play()
} else {
content_mc.stop()
var snd = new Sound (content_mc)
snd.setVolume(0)
}
stop()</pre>
:::Basically, it stops the Flash from playing, and puts a black screen over the Flash if it hasn't been loaded from thankyou.swf.
::::So I could've just clicked on [http://secure.homestarrunner.com/thankyou.swf?rf=https://order.store.yahoo.com/ that] link above!? Sweetness! Why didn't I think of that before? Oh, actually, I didn't know you could do that with swf's... Though the back button solution isn't working on my compy for some reason (when I do it blanks the SWF). Anyway the single file protection is quite sneaky. I'm gonna have to buy something now to make up for this work ;) Thanks a lot Venusy! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:03, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

:I downloaded the linked SWFs (thanks, Stux!) and managed to play them only by using SWF Decompiler to view the key Sprite directly. [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 07:52, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

== Work around for blocker_mc ==

<s>I was fooling around with a [http://www.eltima.com/products/flashdecompiler/ flash decompiler] trying to see how to get the movies to play through the thankyou.swf. I couldn't figure out how to trick the thankyou.swf, but the decompiler itself will play the clip with minimal graphical errors. There's a Sprite labeled as content_mc in each of them. If you click on that the decompiler will play the clip. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 06:15, 6 September 2006 (UTC)</s>

OK, ignore that. I figured it out...sorta. This will work in tandem with the heythanks.html

The heythanks.html on the site has a script in it that looks like this:

<script type="text/JavaScript">
document.write('<embed src="thankyou.swf" FlashVars="rf=' + document.referrer + '" quality="high" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="550" height="400" name="confirmation_test" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="https://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" />');</script>

If you make the following change to the file and save it on your computer along with the rest of the thankyou_*.swf files they'll all play according to the time on your system if you open the heythanks.html file. You can change the time on your system to play a different one.

<script type="text/JavaScript">
document.write('<embed src="thankyou.swf" FlashVars="rf=https://order.store.yahoo.com/" quality="high" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="550" height="400" name="confirmation_test" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="https://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" />');</script>

I'm not sure how to make them not be links, but there you are. They just worked for me. It's easier than getting a flash decompiler and only using it during the trial period. Thing about this is that it will always take you back to the store page since all the thankyou_*.swf files are coded to do that. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 06:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

:I just noticed that it's only playing the thankyou_celegante.swf during 6am-12am, but it will play the cinnamon between 12am-6am. <s>Is there some way to get the random function to work for the flash files? It's probably some resource file on the site that gives it code. It's a different random function from Marzi's character page so it's probably a math library of some kind. Can anyone who writes flash help look for such a file?</s>
:'''Edit:''' It just seems like the Math.Random() (which is part of flash library since Flash 5 so I don't think it's a separate file or class object) isn't setting var _local2 mentioned in the above topic. I can't figure out why it isn't working. Can someone else try this? Maybe you'll have better luck with it. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 14:40, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Stiny

2006-09-03T13:35:49Z

Meneth: grammar

[[Image:Strong badman.PNG|thumb|left|150px|Stiny (not pictured) on the job.]]
[[Image:Who is little stiny.PNG|thumb|100px|Who ''is'' L'il Stiny?]]
'''Stiny''', also known as '''Li'l Stiny''' and '''L'il Stiny''', is [[Strong Badman]]'s temporary hypothetical sidekick. He is merely a ficticious character that [[Strong Bad]] muses about in order to insult yet another e-mail writing fan, and ceases to exists after the cheat gets upset about the notion of being replaced as Strong Bad's sidekick (see below). But for argument's sake, Stiny lives with Strong Badman in [[Strong Badman's Apartment]], assisting Strong Badman with his various evil schemes. Stiny is frequently yelled at by his boss to get him a [[Wikipedia:Danish pastry|danish]] or asked who spilled coffee all over Strong Badman's plans for his death ray. Stiny presumably debuts in the first issue of ''The Total Adventures of Strong Badman''.

Stiny first appears as the sender of the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[superhero name]]. Stiny asks Strong Bad why his name doesn't end in "man", like other superheroes (examples given are [[Wikipedia:Superman|Superman]] and [[Wikipedia:Spider-Man|Spiderman]] [sic]). Strong Bad proceeded to comment that Stiny is not in a very good position to be criticizing people's names, as Strong Bad believed that Stiny sounded like some supervillain's little sidekick that he's always ordering around. After mocking him, Strong Bad agreed to changing his name to Strong Badman ''if'' Stiny agreed to become his sidekick, changes his name to Li'l Stiny, and wears "a little mask and a little cape". [[The Cheat]] (dressed in a little mask and a little cape) complains that Strong Bad is trying to replace him and takes offense at Strong Bad's mocking reference to a little mask and a little cape.

Stiny is [[Unseen Characters|never actually seen]], only yelled at by Strong Badman.

== Appearances ==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[superhero name]] (mentioned)
*Email [[alternate universe]] (mentioned)

[[Category:Strong Badman]]
[[Category:Characters based on Strong Bad Email senders]]

Strong Mad

2006-07-10T06:42:37Z

Meneth: /* Biography */ grammar

{{charnav|Strong Mad|sm|The Cheat|Strong Sad}}
[[Image:neweststrongmad.png|thumb|right|"I'M STRONG MAD!"]]

==Biography==
A monolith of muscle and hostility, '''Strong Mad''' is, as his name implies, strong and usually mad. His brothers are [[Strong Bad]] and [[Strong Sad]], and he is the oldest of the three. He and [[The Cheat]] are "The next bosom buddies" according to a [[Toons Menu|TV TIME]] cover, and though he often tries to help Strong Bad with his evil plans, he usually only messes up. He communicates mostly in simple sentences shouted in an uninflected roar. He seems to be a wrestler (or perhaps was one in the past), since he wears a blue spandex singlet with an "M" on it. He's a big lug, but with a big heart: though you wouldn't know it to look at him, Strong Mad has a soft side. In [[Where's the Cheat?]] he cries over an autographed picture of The Cheat, given to him by the little yellow guy.
[[Image:SM_has_a_Posse.PNG|thumb|right|200px|Strong Mad IS a posse]]
Strong Mad apparently enjoys sports. He dressed as [[Kobe]] in [[A Decemberween Pageant]]; he has dressed as a professional sports player twice in Halloween episodes ([[Wikipedia:William Perry (football)|Refrigerator Perry]], [[Wikipedia:Ben Wallace|Ben Wallace]]); he wore a baseball cap with the [[Wikipedia:Detroit Tigers|Detroit Tigers']] logo on it as [[Wikipedia:Magnum, P.I.|Magnum, P.I.]]; he is the sports reporter for [[local news|Strong Badia Action Cool News 5]]; and he has a statue of a football player in [[Strong Mad's Room|his room]].

Strong Mad's creative drive has produced two works of [[Dinosaurs|dinosaur]]-themed art (an [[lunch special|MS Paint drawing of a "fairly hot brontasaurus"]] and the claymation short [[Doug the Dino]]. At Strong Bad's behest he has also carved the word "DAGRON" in a table and produced a portrait of Strong Bad in glitter and macaroni. Despite these achievements, Strong Bad has devoted [[the facts|an entire email]] to explaining why Strong Mad can't produce his own cartoon show. His musical talent is evident, however: he plays what looks like a black Hofner Violin bass guitar in [[guitar]], [[Cool Things]], and [[Weclome Back]], and the drums in [[highschool]], and he's a natural [[death metal]] singer.

Strong Mad is notable for being the only main character to have five fingers and a visible nose. He seems more than willing to eat otherwise inedible objects, such as rocks, chain-whips, and printed e-mails. He does not, however, [[haircut|want to eat a guitar]]. When Strong Mad inhales [[helium]], his voice stays the same, but when he sucks up [[isp|bandwidth]] through a garden hose, his voice gets high pitched and his mouth gets tiny. Strong Mad has a [[Horrible Painting]] in his closet that gives Strong Bad the [[Jibblies|jibblies]]. He apparently needs reading glasses.

Strong Mad seems to want a pet, as he (as Marzipan put it) "absconded with" [[Bubs' Concession Stand]] during the [[Fall Float Parade]] and tried to convince Strong Bad to let him keep it, saying it followed him home.

*'''Domicile:''' [[House of the Brothers Strong]]
*'''Debut:''' First Seen: "[[Marshmallow's Last Stand]]"
*[[:Category:Strong Mad Filmography|Complete Filmography]]

==Physical Statistics==

[[Image:Sbemail141.PNG|thumb|right|300px|"He's like a big square, this guy."]]
Apparently, Strong Mad's height and weight are not definite. He's simply large and heavy, and as with many other things, the specifics don't really matter and can change from cartoon to cartoon. As stated on the [[Wikipedia:André the Giant Has a Posse|OBEY]] style [[HR:smsticker.html|stickers]], Strong Mad is 8 feet, 3 inches tall, and weighs 900 pounds. According to Strong Bad in [[the facts]], he is 88 inches (7 feet 4 inches) tall and 88 inches wide. As described by The Cheat in [[i she be]], he is only 6 feet tall. In [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], it is stated that Strong Mad and Strong Bad have a combined weight of one million pounds. Apparently, Strong Mad is simply a big guy, and specific measurements are given only when needed for a joke or to convey a meaning.

As seen in [[fingers]], [[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]], and [[death metal]], Strong Mad's shoulders are squared-off, almost cubic, though his [[Store_Toys#Collectible_Figurines|figurine]] is rounder with a football-shaped top.

==Character Video Transcript==

''{'''Page Title''': Light Fuse, Get Away!!}'' ''{'''Places:''' [[Strong Bad's Basement]]}''

''{The character video opens up to Strong Mad sleeping. [[Coach Z]], who is apparently doing the videotaping, nudges him.}''

'''STRONG MAD''': ''{wakes up}'' I'M STRONG MAD! ''{pauses and looks around, then frowns''} I DON'T LIKE THIS MOVIE! ''{another pause, then smiles}'' I LIKE THE CHEAT. Ummmm. BREAKIN' STUFF!'' {Charges camera and knocks it over, causing it to point up at the ceiling.}''

'''COACH Z''': ''{offscreen}'' Okay, that's, uh... that's good then, Strong Mad. We'll go with that one.

==Also known as...==

*[[Strong Man]] ([[Old-Timey]])
*[[Killingyouguy]] ([[Dangeresque (film series)|Dangeresque]])
*[[Kobe|Kobe 2]] ([[A Decemberween Pageant|Decemberween]])
*[[Ready For Primetime]] ([[Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]])
*[[The Teach]] ([[geddup noise]])

===[[Halloween Costumes]]===

*[[Wikipedia:Slim_Goodbody|Slim Goodbody]] in [[Homestarloween Party]].
*[[Wikipedia:William_Perry_%28football%29|William "The Fridge" Perry]] in [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]].
*a [[Wikipedia:Ghost|Ghost]] in [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]].
*[[Wikipedia:Magnum,_P.I.|Magnum P.I.]] in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
*[[Wikipedia:Ben Wallace|Ben Wallace]] in [[Halloween Fairstival]].
*[[Wikipedia:Gossamer (Looney_Tunes)|Gossamer]] in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]

==Quotes of the Week==
{{qotwstart}}
*{{qotw|'''As Small Mouth Strong Mad:''' "I DON'T KNOW WHEN TO SAY WHEN!!"|[[isp]] outtake|Mirror:sm_when2saywhen.mp3}}
*{{qotw|"I'M THE HUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"|[[other days]]|Mirror:sm imthehump.mp3}}
|}

==See Also==

*[[Strong Mad Evolution]]
*[[Strong Mad Other Costumes|Other Costumes]]
*[[Nicknames#Strong Mad|Nicknames]]

==External Links==

*[[HR:vcr_sm.html|watch Strong Mad's character video]]
*[[HR:vcr_sm.swf|view the Flash file for Strong Mad's character video]]
*[[HR:smsticker.html|See a sticker which says "Strong Mad Has a Posse"]]

{{Characters|Strong Mad}}

Teen Girl Squad Issue 8

2006-06-09T12:03:51Z

Meneth: /* Real-World References */ trolls, not goblins

{{tgsnav|8|Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_7|Issue 7|Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_9|Issue 9}}

[[Image:Kissy Boots.PNG|200px|thumb|Kissy Boots in action.]]

The girls join the Battle of the Bands.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Cheerleader}}, {{Film|So and So}}, {{Film|What's Her Face}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Intercom|Intercom]], {{Film|Tompkins}}, [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Floor Tom|Floor Tom]], {{Film|Pom Pom}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Fatty|Fatty]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Trolls|Trolls]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#A Shark|A Shark]], {{Film|Strong Bad}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#The School|The School]], [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Mrs. So-and-so-erson's Walk-in Closet|Mrs. So-and-so-erson's Walk-in Closet]], [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#School Stage|School Stage]], [[Teen Girl Squad Locations#Dressing Room|Dressing Room]]

'''Date:''' January 17, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 2:24

'''Page Title:''' Soopa Groop

==Transcript==
'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Teen Girl Squad! Cheerleader! ''{top 40 hits!}'' So and So! ''{hooked on classics!}'' What's Her Face! ''{college radio!}'' The Ugly One! ''{listens to pine bark!}''

''{The girls are sitting at their desks in class. The Cheerleader shirt says "Suga Sweet". The Cheerleader's desk has a square of paper, So and So's desk has a lamp on it, The Ugly One's desk has an open book on it, and What's Her Face's desk's legs are bent.}''

'''INTERCOM:''' And lunch today will be a breadtangle of pizza. Don't forget the battle of the bands this Friday. Tompkins, point your rear end in the direction of the principal's office.

'''TOMPKINS:''' ''{offscreen}'' Awww, peas!

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Y'hear that girls??

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Pizza belongs in a triangle!

'''SO AND SO:''' ''{hearts over head and drooling awkwardly}'' That Tompkins is SUCH a renegade!

'''CHEERLEADER:''' ''{inexplicably drawn wearing a derby, sunglasses, a moustache, a tie, and smoking a cigar}'' No yous guys! The battle of the bands! ''{back to normal}'' We can form a band and become...

'''ALL:''' WORLDWIDE STARLETS!!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Worldwide starlets get much boys!

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Or so I have read. Obviously, I'll sing and pretend to play guitar.

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Can I not get stuck playing bass?

'''CHEERLEADER, SO AND SO and THE UGLY ONE:''' NO WAY!!

'''SO AND SO:''' We'll be called "Smartly Pretty".

''{we are shown a CD case with "(S)mar+ly PrΣ(π)y" written on it}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' ''{vomits}'' Augh! Bleh! Ewww! Grugh! ''{suddenly sotto voce}'' No. ''{cheerfully}'' We're called "Kissy Boots"!

''{a CD case which says "Kissy Boots" and features a huge pair of lips with cowboy boots is shown}''

'''SO AND SO:''' We can practice after school in my step-mom's walk-in closet!

''{Cut to an image of a man carrying a rock that reads...}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' After school!

''{Cut to So and So's step-mom's walk-in closet, as evidenced by a large rack of clothes.}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Your step mom has questionable taste.

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' And like a million jogging suits.

''{So and So's step-mother appears from behind the clothes rack.}''

'''MRS. SO-AND-SO-ERSON:''' YOU LITTLE BRATS BEST SHUT YER YAPS!!!

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Yes Mrs. So-and-so... -erson.

''{Mrs. So-and-so-erson vanishes. The girls' instruments appear, Cheerleader with a guitar, So and So on keyboard, What's Her Face on bass and The Ugly One on drums.}''

'''SO AND SO:''' Count us off, The Ugly One.

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' One, two, three and a four.

'''CHEERLEADER:''' ''{singing as the other girls play}'' Ooncha ooncha! One, two, three-cha! We're Kissy Boots and it's nice to meetcha! ''{music pauses}'' Ooncha ooncha! ''{music resumes}'' One, two, three-cha! Gonna get a breadtangle of pizza!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' 16 hour drum solo! doo do boop bop...

''{She starts playing the drums and scatting along, until a large floor tom eats her head.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' FLOOR TOMMED!!!!

''{Mrs. So-and-so-erson returns and pours "Ranch Dress" over The Ugly One and the floor tom}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' STEP-MOMMED!!!

''{Cut to a romantic dinner setting where The Ugly One, with the drum still engulfing her head, stands opposite Pom Pom, who holds a single rose.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' POM-POMMED??

''{Cut to a huge mouth with "BATTLE OF THE BANDS!!!" written on its teeth.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' BATTLE OF THE BANDS!!!

''{Cut to the school auditorium, where the Intercom (mounted on a robot body) stands on stage with a microphone, and a handful of stick-figure heads compose the audience.}''

'''INTERCOM:''' Alright, give it up for "Fatty's Big Chance."

''{A large man, presumably Fatty, with a saxophone and checkerboard pants appears from stage right.}''

'''FATTY:''' Pick it up! Pick it up! Hup! Hup! Pick it up! Pick it up!

''{Fatty vanishes.}''

'''INTERCOM:''' Next up is "Kissyboots".

''{Cut to Cheerleader and What's Her Face, probably back stage. Cheerleader's shirt now says "X-girl". Cheerleader holds a heart-shaped guitar with three necks and What's Her Face has a bass.}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Where is So and So? We can't play the hits without her!

''{Cut to So and So in a dressing room. Her hair is dyed black and she wears a black t-shirt with Strong Sad's face on it and heavy black makeup.}''

'''SO AND SO:''' I'm going with that gloomy keyboardist look I keep hearing about!

''{A group of trolls enters the dressing room.}''

'''TROLL:''' KRA'AGH! KLEET'OH BRANGH CHE'EKOH TAGHQ?

'''SO AND SO:''' My autograph? Why sure!

''{A huge multi-sided die lands on her from above.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' TWELVE SIDED DIED!! ''{without text}'' Whoa, that's rough.

''{Back in the auditorium, Cheerleader and What's Her Face are the only ones on stage.}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' I'm Kissyboots and she plays bass. One, two, three, and a four!

''{They start playing. What's Her Face's guitar suddenly turns into a shark.}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' My bass feels seaworthy.

''{The shark eats the entire upper half of What's Her Face in one JGHOWMP!}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' OW! My most of me!!

'''CHEERLEADER:''' ''{indicating the shark}'' Dis my new backup band... a shark. One, two, three, and a four!

''{Cut to the end title which reads "it's over!". Cheerleader sings over it and the lyrics are shown at the top of the screen.}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' It's over! It's over! Strong Bad says it's over! It's over! It's over! Everybody died 'cept me!! ''{a chomping sound is heard.}'' Aw, crap!

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click the "o" to see a breadtangle, breadpazoid, breadallelogram, and brhombus of [[Pizza|pizza]] (click each one to see the next. Click the brhombus to go back to the IT'S OVER! screen.)
*Click the "!" to see what happened to Tompkins.
:''{Tompkins and Strong Bad are in the principal's office. Tompkins is standing to the left of Strong Bad. Strong Bad has a sign on his desk reading "PRINICPAL" [sic] and has a Sega cartridge saying "Road Rash." Tompkins is wearing shorts, and has his right hand in his pocket. Tompkins is also wearing a T-Shirt with the word "Truk" [sic] on it, and a poorly drawn truck on it}''

:'''TOMPKINS:''' Aw, come on prinicpal ''{pronounced as prin-ICK-pal}'' Strong Bad. I only stole ONE Sega tape!

:'''STRONG BAD:''' That's just it, Tompkins... You could have stolen UPWARDS of one Sega tape.

:'''TOMPKINS:''' Awww PEAS!

:'''STRONG BAD:''' Kid, I think you're gonna turn out... HG HJHG HAAAALL ''{pronounced HAAAAAAL}'' right!

==Fun Facts==
=== Trivia ===
*This is the first Teen Girl Squad issue where all four girls clearly die.
*This is the first appearance of a main character (namely, Pom Pom) in a Teen Girl Squad issue (outside of an Easter egg).
*This is the first time Strong Bad has made an apparently personal comment during narration.
*This is the first time that someone other than Strong Bad has said "IT'S OVER!"
*This is the first time someone said the word "[[Crap|crap]]" in a Teen Girl Squad issue.
*The main stage also appears in an Easter egg in [[death metal]].


===Remarks===
*So and So appears twice in this issue with two sharp fangs; The Ugly One also grows fangs in [[Decemberween Teen Girl Squad|Issue 6]] and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10|Issue 10]].
*Cheerleader, So and So, and The Ugly One have no chairs by or attached to their desks to sit on.
*During their first practice session, So-and-So looks like she is playing some odd mix between a Gibson Explorer and a Fender Jazz Bass, and What's Her Face is playing a Gibson V-Factor (more commonly known as the Flying V) with a Fender headstock.


=== Goofs ===
*The die that crushes So And So is a 20-sided die. Twelve-sided dice have pentagonal faces.
*The blue lines on the paper are misplaced inside Tompkins' speech bubble in the Easter egg.
*At the actual Battle of the Bands concert, it's quite clear that the only instruments being played are Cheerleader's three-necked guitar and What's Her Face's bass. However, you can easily distinguish the sound of a drumset being played in the background of the song.
*Before "Kissy Boots" practice, the piano loop overlaps.
*Cheerleader is supposed to play the guitar; however, in the closet jam, the instrument she is holding has only 4 tuners like a bass.
*Two of What's Her Face's vertebrae are floating in the air after the shark bites her "most of me" off.

=== Inside References ===
*"Ooncha ooncha one, two, three-cha" and Tompkins debuted in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]].
*The "[[-erson]]" tacked onto Mrs. So and So's name is a running gag also previously used on Teen Girl Squad Issue #7.
*Strong Bad is called a "prinicpal" (note the misspelling) by his nameplate and by Tompkins, just like in the [[Homestar Quiz]] and [[CGNU]].
*What's Her Face's desk is resting on her lap, and this could be a reference to the DVD commentary for the email "[[date]]."
*When What's Her Face points out that Mrs. So-and-so-erson has "like a million jogging suits" her mouth looks like one of the earlier versions of What's Her Face when she had huge lips. This early version is in Matt and Mike's sketchbook on the DVD.

*Cheerleader's inexplicable change of dress when she says "No yous guys" is similar to what happens to a pile of marshmallows in [[Meet Marshie]].
*When So and So talks about Tompkins being a renegade, she has an expression on her face reminiscent of [[Doreauxgard]] in [[lackey]].

===Real-World References===
*"Breadtangle" refers to cafeteria pizzas which are rectangular in shape, and very bready.
*The Sega "tape" (technically a ROM cartridge) Tompkins steals in the Easter egg is "Road Rash." Road Rash was a [[Wikipedia:Sega Genesis|Sega Genesis]]/Sega MegaDrive game where you race on motorcycles and knock other racers off their motorcycles by punching them or using clubs.
*All of Kissyboots' music is taken from the in-game music of Road Rash.
*One of The Ugly One's drums reads "mr. drummond", a reference to Philip Drummond, a character in the '70s/'80s TV show ''[[IMDB:tt0077003|Diff'rent Strokes]]''.
*Cheerleader's three-necked guitar is a reference to [http://www.jemsite.com/jem/model/vai_triple.htm Steve Vai's guitar], which he played in the video for "Just Like Paradise" by David Lee Roth.
*The "16 hour drum solo" brings to mind the epic drum solos of "[[Wikipedia:In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida|In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida]]" by Iron Butterfly and Led Zeppelin drummer John Bonham's solo in [[Wikipedia:The Song Remains the Same|The Song Remains the Same]] or "Moby Dick".
*Cheerleader's close-up of her with a hat, moustache, glasses, and a tie is similar to that of the [[Wikipedia:Blues Brothers|Blues Brothers]], though the way she says "yous guys" also directs the reference toward Edward G. Robinson.
*The classic Hanna-Barbera cartoon [[Wikipedia:Jabberjaw|Jabberjaw]] also had a shark as a band member.
*The trolls and the gamers multi-sided die are staples of [[Wikipedia:Role_playing_game|RPGs]] such as [[Wikipedia:Dungeons and dragons|Dungeons & Dragons]].
*The trolls' language sounds vaguely "Gothic" (in the ethnic sense of the word) to go with So and So's image. It also bears a striking resemblance to [http://www.kli.org Klingon] which along with [[Wikipedia:Dungeons and dragons|Dungeons & Dragons]] are 2 of the best known geek symbols.
*The opening quote for So and So "[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000063T50/002-1408612-1164808?v=glance Hooked on Classics]" refers to a real compilation album. It consists of classical musical themes set against rock beats.
*The pose for the shark at the end is remarkably similar to the pose of the Shark enemy in Final Fantasy 1.
*Fatty's Big Chance is clearly a Ska band, what with his checkered pants and the phrase "pick-it-up".
**This is likely a specific reference to the 1970's British ska band [[Wikipedia:Bad_Manners|Bad Manners]] and its fat, shaven-headed singer [[Wikipedia:Buster_Bloodvessel|Buster Bloodvessel]]. The checkered pants match the standard set by the British ska label [[Wikipedia:Two_Tone|Two Tone]], on which Bad Manners recorded. Additionally, Bad Manners recorded the song "Lip Up, Fatty".
*What's Her Face's bass transforming into a shark is a reference to the 1997 TV special, "[[IMDB:tt0218329|Hey, Hey, It's the Monkees]]". During a musical sequence, Mike's guitar turns into a shark.
*When the girls form Kissy Boots, note that The Ugly One is the drummer. [[Wikipedia:Ringo Starr|Ringo Starr]] was the drummer for [[Wikipedia:The Beatles|The Beatles]]. Each Beatle had his own little nickname, and Ringo was also known as "The Ugly One".
**Also note that What's Her Face plays bass left-handed, just like [[Wikipedia:Paul McCartney|Paul McCartney]] from The Beatles.
*What's Her Face's guitar closely resembles the Gibson Thunderbird.

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

===Commentary Transcript===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Matt Chapman]], [[Ryan Sterritt]], [[Mike Chapman]])

'''MATT:''' So, we got our main Ryan Sterritt up in the house! Ryan! We'll give a shout-out!

'''RYAN:''' Yo, yo!

'''MATT:''' Umm, what is The Ugly One doing listening to pinebark, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' Does What's Her Face never have an apostrophe?

'''MATT:''' Uh yeah, y— I noticed that this week you added one for number ten. And she usually doesn't have one.

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' And she's never had one before? I mean, it ''should'' have one, right?

'''MATT:''' I mean, sometimes "it's over", yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Didn't we fix all the "it's over"s?

'''RYAN:''' We did. But only two of the nine had apostrophes.

'''MIKE:''' On the website?

'''RYAN:''' Yes.

'''MIKE:''' But on the DVD they've all got 'em. I've finally learned the difference. Because of your Strong Bad's Rhythm and Grammar song!

'''MATT:''' Well, there you go!

'''MIKE:''' So... these days, one of the Teen Girl Squad's members almost always has fangs, at some point in the cartoon.

'''RYAN:''' Tha— that's always Mike. Mike loves to add the fangs. You know that Mike drew those frames if they have fangs.

'''MIKE:''' ''{sotto voce}'' I drew that. ''{normal volume}'' And I played bass! Like— like What's Her Face! I know what she's going through.

'''MATT:''' Like Kim Gordon! And—

'''MIKE:''' Darcy!

'''MATT:''' Laura! Laura from Superchunk, and Darcy from Smashing Pumpkins!

'''RYAN:''' Jabucks had a girl bass player.

'''MATT:''' Did they? Look at that poor guy.

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Kim Deal? ''{crosstalk}'' Girl bassists... I'm not a girl, just to be clear! ''{laughs}'' I don't know how we got on girl bass players.

'''MATT:''' Hey guys, look at how creepy Mrs. So-and-so-erson is.

'''MIKE:''' I remember going to friends' houses and, like, their— the walk-in closet was kind of a fun place to play.

'''MATT:''' The, uh—, the New You used to play in a walk-in closet I had at the plaza apartments! And we played for months and months and months and the day before I moved out was the only day someone came and complained about the noise. Which was really surprising. Umm, so, I'm not believing that stuff about bombing a sixteen-hour drum solo, you guys.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' You can't— ha—

'''MATT:''' Uh, so now, we've personified that speaker, uh, into some kind of speaker robot.

'''MIKE:''' Kinda looks like Screech's best friend robot that's in one episode of Saved by the Bell.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Um, Kevin is his name.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Fatty there, of course, being— representing the ska contingent.

'''MIKE:''' Were you ever into ska, Ry?

'''RYAN:''' Uh, yeah. Ska punk.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah? ''{laughs}'' Pick it up, pick it up, Boston! Pick it up, pick it up, pick it up, pick it up!

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' So what...

'''RYAN:''' Yeah. There's some maggot on— there's some others. They— they're catching in. ''{sings}'' Sound system gonna bring me back up right. ''{incomprehensible}'' Guys?

'''MATT:''' That was all right for a certain "pick it up, pick it up".

'''MIKE:''' Eh, ''{incomprehensible}''?

'''MATT:''' Yeah. ''{laughs}'' Dis my new band.

'''MATT and MIKE:''' Bismarcky and the bitsy boys!

'''MIKE:''' So were those people— were those supposed to be people in the foreground?

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs}'' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Or black lollipops?

'''MATT:''' Oh no.

'''MIKE:''' Oh wait, did she die then?

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

===Fun Facts===
*The "Strong Bad's Rhythm and Grammar" song Mike refers to is from [[local news]].

== External Links ==
*[[HR:tgs8.html|watch "Teen Girl Squad Issue 8"]]
*[[HR:tgs8.swf|view the Flash file for "Teen Girl Squad Issue 8"]]
*[[Forum:1770|forum thread re: "Teen Girl Squad Issue 8"]]

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[[Category:DVD Commentary]]

Lack of Visible Arms

2006-05-17T14:26:21Z

Meneth: lack of hands->arms

[[Image:Homestar's Arms.PNG|thumb|Homestar with "arms"]]
One of the ultimate mysteries of [[Homestar Runner (Flash cartoon)|HomestarRunner.com]] is that [[Homestar Runner]], [[Marzipan]], [[The King of Town]], [[Homsar]], and many other characters all '''lack visible arms''' and hands. In spite of this, they have the ability to pick stuff up and carry it around. The most common explanations for the phenomenon are that they either have invisible arms or can manipulate objects with some kind of [[Wikipedia:psychokinesis|psychokinesis]]. Usually none of the other characters seem to pay attention to this curiosity, although sometimes their lack of arms is referenced.

==References==
*'''[[Armless Invaders]]''' — Homestar is the "armless invader" of the title.
*Email '''[[vacation]]''' — [[Strong Bad]] imagines, in a hypothetical email from [[Monkey D]], "How does Homestar pick stuff up if he's not wearing any Marzi-pants?"
*Email '''[[action figure]]''' — Homestar's [[Action Figure Character Variations|action figure box]] reads "No arms! Like real life!"
*'''[[The Interview]]''' — Strong Bad refers to Homestar as a "no-armed whitey".
*Email '''[[fingers]]''' — Homestar makes himself a pair of fake arms.
*'''[[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]]''' — [[Strong Mad]] starts to say that Homestar doesn't have arms, but is cut off by the end of the cartoon.
*'''[[Stinkomanual]]''' — Level 5's intro reads, "1-Up takes matters into his own, um, torso!"

==Oddities==
[[Image:Homestar_head_no_arms.PNG|thumb|Head Hands]]
*'''[[In Search of the Yello Dello]]''' — Marzipan slaps Homestar across the face, leaving a visible handprint.
**In the commentary, Strong Bad says that Marzipan has really nice hands and Homestar replies, "Yeah, I suppose she does."
*'''[[The Reddest Radish]]''' — Marzipan knocks on the door of Homestar's house with her head, despite the fact she could have used her invisible arms/telekinetic powers instead.
**Likewise, in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], Homestar knocks on Marzipan's door with his head, although he's probably just being silly, or possibly because he's holding his bagful of candy with both 'hands'.
*'''[[Homestar vs. Little Girl 2]]''' — When Puppet Homestar plays Tag with [[Little Girl]], he touches her with his head.
*Email '''[[the bird]]''' — Strong Bad flips Homestar off, and after Homestar replies "Right back atcha," Strong Bad exclaims, "He just gave me the bird!"
*Email '''[[your friends]]''' — Strong Bad asks Marzipan to hold out her hands; instead of replying that she doesn't have any, she just says she doesn't want to.
*'''[[Strong Bad Sings]]''' — One of Strong Bad's songs is titled "This One Time I Saw Homestar Punching a Kitten in the Throat".
*Email '''[[marzipan]]''' — Strong Bad remarks that "Marzipan can't keep her hands offa" him, although this could be just a figure of speech.
*Email '''[[time capsule]]''' — Homestar is able to manipulate the box, box lid, and wig all at the same time, as if he has multiple invisible arms.
**This is also seen in Email [[the show]] and [[Main Page 19]], where Homestar holds a microphone and sorts through a stack of index cards at the same time.
*'''[[Puppet Jam: Everybody Knows It]]''' — Puppet Homestar gives high fives to [[They Might Be Giants]].
*[[Arcade Game]], and emails '''[[50 emails]]''' and '''[[anything]]''' — Homestar can type on a keyboard.
**Similarly, in the [[King of Town Email]] (reached via the [[King of Town Main Page]]), the King of Town is heard typing on the keyboard of the broken [[Tandy 400]].
*'''[[Puppet Jam: Apple Juice Blues]]''' - Homestar says, "my arm really really hurts," though it is probably [[Matt Chapman]] speaking about his own arm.
*Email '''[[highschool]]''' Highschool-Homestar sings "Shaking hands with my man".
*'''[[Biz Cas Fri 1]]''' — When Homestar "helps" Strong Bad with his spreadsheet, Homestar types with his head, when he could type with his "hands" in Emails [[50 emails]], [[anything]], and [[Arcade Game]].
*Email '''[[virus]]''' — Homestar's head falls off his body, and then the ''head'' picks up the links in the navigation bar.
*Email '''[[senior prom]]''' — When the lights go out, Marzipan warns someone to "watch those hands". This is notable if she was speaking to her date, Homestar. On the other hand, when the lights come back on, she is standing quite a distance from Homestar and Strong Mad is the nearest one to her.

== Other Apparently Invisible Body Parts ==

=== Coach Z's Face ===
Various references are made to parts of [[Coach Z|Coach Z's]] face that are not visible to the viewer:

*'''[[The Best Decemberween Ever]]''' — Coach Z is seen drinking mouthwash.
*'''[[A Jorb Well Done]]''' — When Marzipan is trying to teach Coach Z how to say "job", she tells him to make his mouth into an "O".
*'''[[The Luau]]''' — Coach Z, [[Bubs]] and [[Pom Pom]] are seen eating marshmallows. (Pom Pom also does not appear to have a mouth, and Bubs' mouth appears to be a solid wall of teeth.)
*'''[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]]''' — [[20X6 Coach Z]] appears to speak by wiggling his eyebrow.
*'''[[Fall Float Parade]]''' — Coach Z claims to have "fairly good teeth".
*Email '''[[narrator]]''' — Coach Z claims a napkin has his "snot balls" on it, and Bubs tells him he doesn't even have a nose.
*'''[[Sbemail 150?!?]]''' — [[Strong Sad]] mentions wanting to pour black coffee over Coach Z's head so it "continually streams down his mouthless face." (This later happens in email [[alternate universe]].)

=== Strong Bad's Nose ===
Similarly, references are occasionally made to Strong Bad's nose, even though he does not appear to have one.

*Email '''[[autobiography]]''' — In his autobiography tape, Strong Bad claims that "milk and cookies shot out my nose!"
*Email '''[[alternate universe]]''' — [[Stinkoman]] calls Strong Bad "big nose", then refers to his nose.
*Email '''[[big white face]]''' — Strong Bad acts like he's holding his nose when near [[The Poopsmith]].

=== Ears ===
None of the [[Characters#Main characters|main characters]] appear to have ears, yet they still act as though they do.

*Email '''[[impression]]''' — In a tape recording, Strong Sad tells Strong Bad to stop flicking his ear.
*Email '''[[stunt double]]''' — [[Dangeresque]] wears cool glasses which are apparently held on his head by invisible ears.
**This is seen again in emails [[dangeresque 3]], [[disconnected]], and [[alternate universe]].
**Homestar and [[The Thnikkaman]] also wear [[Homestar's Shades|sunglasses]] in several toons.
*Email '''[[alternate universe]]''' — [[Tiny-Handed Strong Bad]] attempts to dig to China with his ear.

==See also==
*[[How Do You Type With Boxing Gloves On?]]

==Characters With No Visible Arms==
<gallery>
Image:homestar.PNG|<center>'''[[Homestar Runner]]'''</center>
Image:marzipan.png|<center>'''[[Marzipan]]'''</center>
Image:kot.PNG|<center>'''[[The King of Town]]'''</center>
Image:homsarcharacter.PNG|<center>'''[[Homsar]]'''</center>
Image:thehstarr2.png|<center>'''[[The Homestar Runner|The Homestar Runner]]'''</center>
Image:marzipan1936.PNG|<center>'''[[Old-Timey Marzipan]]'''</center>
Image:20x6homestar.png|<center>'''[[1-Up]]'''</center>
Image:wheelchair.png|<center>'''[[The Wheelchair]]'''</center>
Image:teh goblin.PNG|<center>'''[[The Goblin]]'''</center>
Image:the knight.png|<center>'''[[The Knight]]'''</center>
Image:Little Chef Dude KOT DVD.PNG|<center>'''[[The Little Chef Guy]]'''</center>
Image:yodeling man.png|<center>'''[[Unnamed Characters#The Yodeling Man|The Yodeling Man]]'''</center>
</gallery>

=== Debatable Characters ===
These characters lack visible arms, but have never been seen to manipulate objects.

<gallery>
Image:Prince of Town.png|<center>'''[[The Prince of Town]]'''</center>
Image:the two kids.png|<center>'''[[The Sad Kids]]'''</center>
Image:Unnamed_Girl.PNG|<center>'''[[Rejected Characters#Unnamed Girl|Unnamed Girl]]'''</center>
Image:hswin.PNG|<center>'''[[Rejected Characters#Homeschool Winner|Homeschool Winner]]'''</center>
Image:theunguraits.png|<center>'''[[Rejected Characters#The Unguraits|The Unguraits]]'''</center>
</gallery>
[[Category:Activity running gags]]

Talk:Lack of Visible Arms

2006-04-24T06:46:11Z

Meneth: Invisible Hands Only theorem

The [[King of Town]] also doesn't appear to have any visible arms (nor does the Prince of Town in [[flashback]]), but no direct reference is made to this.

== He just gave me the bird! ==

:''Homestar flips Strong Bad off, and Strong Bad reacts as if he can see it.''

I think the joke in [[the bird]] was that Homestar "flips off" Strong Bad by responding "right back at you" to Strong Bad's Single Deuce, as if ''he didn't even need to'' flip a hand. Understand? --[[User:Sam Goldfish|Sam Goldfish]] 22:31, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:...Actually, you're right, I think. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Yeah, I was about to make that very same comment before I saw I was beaten to it. If not totally removed, I think the entry should be heavily reworded. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:42, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::Nah, it's supposed to be taken straightforward; Homestar ''really'' flips him the bird. If somebody merely ''told me'' they were flipping me off, I don't think I would take it as badly as Strong Bad does. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:08, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I had always seen it as a real, invisible one rather than "it's the thought that counts." I'm not arguing definitely against that. ''But'' a little bit of humor in the whole email comes from the fact that ''none'' of the flip-offs are visible, since even the characters with visible hands lack independent finger movement. Strong Bad's and Pom Pom's "deuces" are mere hand movements, yet all the characters seem to be perceiving the gesture. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::All we know for certain is that Homestar says "right back atcha," which (since it's Homestar) probably means that he either didn't see or didn't understand the gesture. (I mean two different things by that: "didn't see" would be due to the boxing gloves; "didn't understand" would be due to him being Homestar.) We do not know that Homestar really made any "hand gestures" at all, invisible hands or no; he probably just thought Strong Bad was waving, hence the "right back atcha." Since the joke works whether Homestar is actually making an invisible hand gesture or not, time to apply Occham's (sp?) Razor. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:01, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::PS. Abdi makes a good point. The only main characters who could make a visible "bird" would be Strong Mad, Strong Sad, and The Poopsmith, none of whom appeared in that email.
::::Exactly! Homestar thought Strong Bad was waving! I get it now! As for Strong Bad taking it so bad, I think that's part of the joke: He can dish it out, but he can't take it. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 06:33, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Though note that [[Strong Mad]] would be the only one who could do it properly, as he has five fingers, while [[Strong Sad]] and [[The Poopsmith]] have four.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:55, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Dot com is right: It is clear that Homestar's gesture or lack thereof was taken by Strong Bad as an actual one-fingered salute. We should take it just as seriously as we take Strong Bad and Pom Pom's deuces. Yes, he may have thought Strong Bad was just "waving", but if he did, it appears that he "waved" back, and therefore, for all practical purposes, Homestar did in fact flip Strong Bad off. I hope that wasn't ridiculouly confusing; I feel like I'm rambling. If it doesn't make sense, let me know; I'll try to clarify. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 07:07, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::The quotation marks on waving seem to convey it just right. Couldn't have said it better myself (and I tried to above). {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 18:24, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

I really think you guys are overanalyzing this. The joke was that you can't see either Strong Bad or Pom Pom's gestures - just the suggestion of them given the context. The joke is continued when Strong Bad "flips off" Homestar, and Homestar just reflects it right back. Given the lack of visible evidence, but also given Strong Bad's responses to both Pom Pom ("Pom Pom prefers the single deuce") and Homestar ("He just gave me the bird!"), I think it's safe to assume that the gesture (visible only to Strong Bad) was repeated both times. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 19:47, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:I've always perceived this as exactly how the current wording explains it. Strong Bad flips Homestar off, so Homestar responds by flipping Strong Bad off, and Strong Bad reacts as if he can see it. It doesn't need any more explanation than that. In fact, it's funny precisely because it's ambiguous. Let's not squeeze the poop out of the fly here. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 20:04, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::I'm willing to believe that Homestar doesn't actually understand the gesture - he's pretty dim. Say you're from another country, and you've never seen or heard of the middle-finger gesture before. Someone does it to you, and you might interpret it as a friendly gesture and do it right back to them. Of course, the first person might then be offended by it. Since Homestar generally tends to have memory lapses and is otherwise just a dim-witted fellow to begin with, I think it's perfectly reasonable to interpret this as him seeing the flip-off and just not understanding it. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:10, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::As my mother always said: It's the thought that counts. It doesn't metter if they actualy did it or not. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 20:11, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:::I think the joke here is the ambiguity. Is Homestar wittily flashing the bird back, or does he not realize the back of String Bad's boxing glove is actually the finger, making his response a wave? That's what puts the hummor in the situation. I don't think we can take SB's reply as evidence to support either side. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 20:14, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Hence the original statement: Strong Bad reacts as though he can see (the gesture). - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:19, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::::Proposed Revision: ''"When Strong Bad flips off Homestar, Homestar apparently returns the gesture, causing Strong Bad's feelings to be hurt."'' - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:21, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::Meh, the feelings hurt part is not that relevant. The key is that Strong Bad says, "He just gave me the bird," something someone wouldn't be expected to say if they hadn't actually been flipped off. This whole page is based on trying to interpret something that doesn't make sense in the real world. Its purpose is to highlight the ambiguity where we find it. I think there's enough support for including the instance found in [[the bird]] to put it back on the page, but I suggest my own revision: ''Strong Bad flips Homestar off, and after Homestar replies "Right back atcha," Strong Bad exclaims, "He just gave me the bird!"'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:53, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::::::Sounds good to me. That's nice and unambiguous. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 20:57, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Yes, very good. It's got no speculation. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

That sounds re-ZON-able. (Or however you spell that.) [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 23:03, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

== Pic? ==

Which do you think we should use for this article's picture? I'm for Homestar's "arms" from [[fingers]].-{{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:EDIT: Lunar Jesters uploaded[http://www.hrwiki.org/images/7/7f/Homestar%27s_Arms.PNG]. I like it.{{User:Kookykman/sig}}

== Page Title ==
Invisible Arms? I don't think that Homestar, Marzi & KOT have arms at all. I think it's some kind of force field or something. I mean, the fact about time capsule (Homestar holding three things at once) was already declined on STUFF because the majority of people here think it's not clear that Homestar has arms as such. Can we get a better name for this page? And perhaps remove that dubious fact? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 23:06, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:How about "Ambiguious Arms" or simply "Arms"? {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::I don't like just "arms" because this page is actually about ''lack of'' arms. Say, how about "Lack of Arms" ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 23:08, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::"Lack of Arms" has the same problem that "Invisible Arms" has. Namely, it assumes as fact one of the possible explanations for the situation. (I admit I chose "Invisible Arms" because that's the camp I'm in. Is there something (besides just "Arms") that is more neutral?) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:10, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Well, I did propose Ambiguous Arms earlier... - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::::"Ambiguous Arms" is a step in the right direction, although something about it (maybe the alliteration?) doesn't sound quite right to me. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:14, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::Yes, the alliteration kind of threw me off, too. *looks up synonyms* "ambiguous, cryptic, dark, darkling, deep, enigmatic (also enigmatical), equivocal, inscrutable, murky, mysterious, mystic, nebulous, occult." Not a good list. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::::::How about "Vague"? - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 23:19, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::What about "Extremities"? Homestar uses that term in the DVD commentary in [[time capsule]]. :) - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 23:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::That has the same problem as just "Arms", though. :P - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::::::Yeah, "Extremities" doesn't really address the adjective problem. How about "Missing or Invisible Arms"? "The Arm Situation"? "No Visible Arms"? "How the Crap Do They Pick Stuff Up"? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:21, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::"Missing or Invisible Arms" does adress both sides of the problem. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::::::"Vague Extremities", then. :) - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 23:22, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
I say "Arms?"—with the question mark. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:23, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Looking at my most recent list, I like "No Visible Arms." It gets the point across, it's easy to remember, and it works for both completely missing arms and arms that are just invisible. Plus, it can be worked into a fun fact: "This is another reference to Homestar's having [[Lack of Visible Arms|no visible arms]]." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:25, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'm for "No Visible Arms". {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::Yeah, that's a good solution to all sides. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:30, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I'm going to move it in about 5 minutes if there's no objections. {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::::Well, now let's give everyone a chance to weigh in. Just to be thorough, here are the choices so far:
:::::*This is another reference to Homestar's [[Lack of Visible Arms|missing or invisible arms]].
:::::*This is another reference to Homestar's [[Lack of Visible Arms|ambiguous arms]In].
:::::*This is another reference to the [[Lack of Visible Arms|arm situation]].
:::::*[[Lack of Visible Arms|How the crap do they pick stuff up?]] (just kidding).
:::::*This is another reference to Homestar's having [[Lack of Visible Arms|no visible arms]].
:::::— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::::Alright, I'll wait. Though, looking at that list, it looks pretty obvious. :) - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

::::::I'll go along with '''no visible arms'''. It seems the best of both worlds. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::It's a bit awkward, but I'd go with "No Visible Arms." How about "Lack of Visible Arms"? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 23:57, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::The point of "no visible arms" is that it will be linked easily from fun facts pages (see the list above) - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::::::::"This is another reference to Homestar's [[Lack of Visible Arms|lack of visible arms]]." It sounds better, see? {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 00:00, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::You're right. "Lack of Visible Arms" does sound better. We're going to need a clear agreement before we move it. Any way we could have a quick STUFF-style vote, or should we just move it now? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

::::::::::I emphatically agree that a negative statement about visible arms is the way to go (it makes no statement about invisible or none), and I enthusiastically agree with H. Coder that "Homestar's lack" is preferable to "Homestar's having." That gerund gamme the gerbblies. (Not to be confused with the gerbilys.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:26, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::::I'd say '''lack of visible arms''' is good too. As long as it finally gets a name everyone can agree on, yeah? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::::::::::Done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Homestar's perception ==
Note that just because clearly Strong Bad and Strong Mad are of the opinion he doesn't have arms doesn't prove it for sure; that's ''their'' opinion. Homestar seems to think he does. This could be Homestar being delusional, or one could argue that he ought to know best. Seems to me this is similar to the pants issue—he maintains he's wearing pants although others disagree. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 23:30, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sarcasm? ==

When Strong Bad notes that Marzipan has "really nice hands" in the Yellow Dello commentary, I think it's possible that he was being sarcastic. His tone (notice his emphasis on the word "hands"), combined with the fact that he seems to have a pretty good handle on just who has arms in Free Country U.S.A, indicates that he may have been making a joke. Of course, that doesn't mean Homestar's agreement wasn't completely earnest... [[User:Rocketlex|Rocketlex]] 00:13, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Another character with no visible arms ==

[[The Wheelchair]] is seen lifting the lid to his pot of burled holiday cabbage in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]. Any significance? - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 21:51, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
:Sure, add it on. He has definitely got no arms. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::Done. Added a note that he actually DOES have visible arms, but they don't move. (You can see the arms, but they obviously aren't designed to pick things up. :)) - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 22:18, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Good call on adding the wheelchair. But I have to disagree, he does not have arms. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:57, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Uh, he means the wheels. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 23:02, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::I meant the wheels? Actually, I ''was'' talking about the arms (the parts that you'd rest your arms on if you were sitting in a wheelchair. I had forgotten that The Wheelchair's arms (in this case) serve as his mouth. - [[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]] 23:05, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
::::::Nevermind. I didn't do any fact checking. I am probably just going crazy...again. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 23:28, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

== Not quite so visible ==

Be it in another page or this page, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Fall_Float_Parade&diff=206146&oldid=206084 this] might be a good idea! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:51, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
:Hey, we added the bit about Strong Bad "flicking" Strong Sad's "ears" to the Type-With-Boxing-Gloves page... I see nothing wrong with this. And the coach must have some sort of mouth, as we've seen him blow a whistle AND eat... But it might just be an invisible one. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

== No telekinetic abilities. Just arms. ==

This is my opinion on it, taken from the Homestar talk page:

If you want something close to proof, look at [[the bird]]. But really, you're just analyzing it too hard. Look at his eyes on the picture in the upper left. They're clearly on the front of his head, with him facing diagonally. Notice that you can see the underside of the hat? Notice the mouth is seen from a diagonal angle? It's like an Egyptian painting. Yes, the puppet has the eyes on the side, but can't you tell that's just to make it work in real life? It's a cartoon, it's like Egyptian paintings, it doesn't have to be exactly like that in real life. There is no real life, in fact, so reality is simply what the creators intended. How can he flip Strong Bad the bird with telepathic abilities? It's like Pom-Pom's voice, they can understand it but we can't. The arms exist but we can't see them. His eyes are just eyes. </rant> [[User:Uh...Cwapface|Uh...Cwapface]] 03:44, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Ummm..I totally forgot what I wrote on the other page so I'm just gonna wing it- It's just one of those many questions everyone has for TBC, but they have no answer for. Like "How come Marzipan has no legs" or "Why does Bubs' mouth not move when he talks or just barely does"? It's one of those things the world may never know.--[[User:Gir007|Gir007]] 00:53, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

* If [[Homestar Runner|Homestar]] had arms, there would be holes in his shirt/skirt for them to come out of. I think this decisively shows that he must be telekinetic.

*How does Strong Bad type with boxing gloves on? --{{User:Nerd42/sig}} 23:10, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

* Sorry to post anonymously, but I haven't created an account here yet. I think that the Brothers Chaps may have finally answered the arms vs. telekinesis question with the recent Strong Bad E-mail lady fan. Since Homestar's workout clothes include a leotard/onesie thing, the shoulder straps would fall if he didn't have *something* holding them up.

**To add to that (still anonymous diffrent poster) in the same E-mail Strong Bad slaps the scoisors out of Marzipan's hands, or the lack thereof. This implys that people with arms can interact with those without, giving play to the "invisble arms" argument.

== They're not the only ones... ==

I happen to know, and I would really appreciate if no one asked me why I know, that the characters from [[Wikipedia:VeggieTales|VeggieTales]] also don't have arms, but can pick stuff up. Who came first, anyways?--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 23:41, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
:VeggieTales came first. [[User:PurpleKoopa|PurpleKoopa]] 21:58, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
::There's nothing wrong with liking VeggieTales, Jnelson09. They rock. One of my favorite jokes is in the one about Jericho where someone is giving a speech and everyone applauds. One of the characters leans to another and says, "''How'' are we clapping??" Good stuff. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:57, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:::It's not that I ''like'' VeggieTales (honestly, I think they're weird, no offense), it's just that I saw it a few times, and the first time I saw Homestar in [[Experimental Film]], it just reminded me of that.--[[User:Jnelson09|Jnelson09]] 23:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

== Something Worth Knowing ==

There's an article on Homestar's discussion page about the "no arms" mystery, but it discusses the reasoning behind the lack of arms. Anybody care to add to it?

== The Wheelchair ==

The Wheelchair does 'technically' have arms(handles). And even if not so, this isn't a character that should actually be designed to have arms. Shouldn't the title of that section be labeled differently, instead of just listing what abscure characters don't have arms? If your intention is that, then why not add "The Huuuuuudge" and other mentioned characters without libs? {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 22:35, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
:I think the main point of including the Wheelchair is that it has been seen manipulating an object if it had arms--or, rather, invisible ones. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::That's it exactly. The Wheelchair opened a pot of burled cabbage with invisible arms. This page isn't discussing the armrests, but actual manipulative arms we cannot see but have seen evidence of. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:44, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
::It might be worth having a closer look at some of the characters on this page: I'm not sure all of them have ever been seen moving objects as though they had invisible arms. It seems to me this page shouuld ''only'' feature those characters who have done so, not just any character with no visible arms. I'll check up on this when I have more time. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:43, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
:::A list and a check if there is a verified example of proof there are arms that are not invisible, and not just no arms:

*{{done}}Homestar Runner
*{{done}}Marzipan
*{{done}}The King of Town
*{{done}}Homsar ([[Homestar Presents: Presents]] - using paintbrush as bell)
*{{done}}The Yodeling Man (he holds the horn somehow)
*{{done}}The Knight (bass drum mallets in [[Fall Float Parade]]
*{{done}}The Little Chef Guy
*{{todo}}The Prince of Town
*<s>{{todo}}The Goblin</s> NO ARMS
*{{todo}}The Sad Kids
*{{done}}The Homestar Runner (parsnip soup)
*{{done}}Old-Timey Marzipan
*{{done}}1-Up (puuding)
*{{done}}The Wheelchair (burled cabbage)
*{{todo}}Unnamed Girl
*{{todo}}Homeschool Winner
*{{todo}}The Unguraits

:::Add checks and confirmations as you find them. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:54, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
::::The chef guy seems to be holding a knife somehow, but he doesn't move it at all. The others are all unconfirmed, as far as I know. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Shouldn't we be able to assume that The Prince of Town has invisible arms, as he is the storybook counterpart to The King of Town? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 23:06, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Wasn't Homsar holding a paintbrush in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]? I think that would count... {{User:Saturn/sig}} 23:39, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::He was also holding a magic wand and dropped a bunch of confetti in [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig]]. Good call. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:44, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::'''(Edit Conflict)''' I'd also suggest that any character who looks human or vaguely human (The Sad Kids, Unnamed Girl, etc) should also be considered as having invisible arms if they're not actually shown. If you choose to accept that, then this leave The Goblin, Homeschool Winner and the Unguraits. And you can probably assume that Homsar and Homeschool Winner have the same or similar qualities to Homestar Runner, since they are similar creatures. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 23:41, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
*Prince Of Town: hey, maybe if they aren't arms but are telekinesis, he hadn't yet developed the power at that point. Add to that the PoT is apocryphal, and I see no reason to assume he has arms.
*The Goblin, The Unguraits: possibly no arms. Probably, even, considering we don't know their physiology. By that logic we add Da Huuudge and other such nonsense.
*The Sad Kids, Unnamed Girl, Homeschool: while we might deduce by analogy that they must have arms, there remains no proof, and therefore we don't actually know for sure.
I think The Goblin and The Unguraits should be removed, and the others debated. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:08, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
:How about if we put them in a separate section? "Debatable/Unproven Characters" or something like that? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 03:45, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
::That sounds like a good idea. I could see removing the Goblin and the Unguraits (especially the Unguraits), but I think there's enough to assume that the prince, the kids, the girl, and Homeschool meet the criteria for this page, even without explicit proof. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:01, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
:::If [[:Image:goblin arms fangs.PNG|The Goblin was gonna have arms]], that means he doesn't have now. I say confirmed. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 07:19, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't see how that picture of the Goblin confirms that he has no arms at all. If anything, it confirms for me that he has invisible arms. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:40, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I went ahead and moved all the questionables to a new subsection: "Debatable Characters". Is that good enough? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:09, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

== Invisible Hands Only theorem ==

I consider [[Strong Bad is a Bad Guy]] canon, so Homestar (and presumably the rest of the cast) really doesn't have arms, invisible or otherwise. However, Marzipan clearly have hands, so this is how I think things work:

Each armless character has two invisible hands, which are manipulated psychokinetically. These hands are the only things that can be so manipulated. [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 06:46, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Talk:l33t Interview

2006-04-19T14:23:48Z

Meneth: /* Date */ signed

===PG-13?===
Can you guys give me a good reason why you keep censoring back the interview? Yes, it's wrong to put PG-13 language on a fansite for a PG website, but what's wrong with my foul language warning? I mean, if we censor every swear TBC say, should't we start censoring everytime Strong Bad says "crap" (a swear to some)? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]]

:[[HRWiki:About]]. No swears. Ever. If someone cares that much about it they can read the actual interview. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

::Plus 'crap' is on a slightly different level from '****', '***', and especially '****'. If we start allowing swears, it would lower the dignity of the Wiki. Before long, people would start swearing on all their talk comments, in the articles, and this wouldn't be a family safe site anymore. Besides, most people who really want to know what's behind the stars can usuall guess by the context, and there is always the source at the bottom too, yes. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 05:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Still, I don't see anything wrong with an uncensored transcript with a warning. While I do hate trolls who add profanity to a family site, what if the site became more vulgar? (highly unlikely, but still) Would we censor transcripts for something that's not for kids anymore? If the interviews gave TBC [[wikipedia:Freedom_of_speech|freedom of speech]], why can't we? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:Trogga and I might not agree on a lot - but we DO agree on this point. It's one article that will never be transcribed properly if censored. I doubt everyone and his brother is going to start using profanities just because we transcribe an interview that contained them. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::Second Jay and Trogga. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:52, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::I also agree with Trogga. See my comments (and other's) at [[Talk:Interviews and Public Appearances]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::I've posted my comment on this at [[Talk:Interviews and Public Appearances]]. I think the general rule is that "If it's on the site, it's acceptable here", meaning if H*R.com started to use a swear word, it would most likely have to be allowed here. That's how it is at the moment (I don't know what would happen if H*R.com did become less family friendly). [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 09:13, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::Ditto. So what if there are swears? I'm 12, and I know this is more family friendly than my school is. --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 02:17, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Copyright ==

Uh... I'm clearly seeing the following at the bottom of this interview:
<pre>Copyright © 2001 by www.wtfiml33t.com Staff, All Rights Reserved</pre>
I'm hoping whoever put this here got permission first and just forgot to post on the discussion page about it.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:32, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:Okay I'll go send an email to them now. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
::In case anyone was wondering... here's what they sent me:
:::First, I wrote them an email asking if we could use the transcript on this page (I posted a link to this article). A few days later, Greg sent me:
I'll talk to Stephan since it's his interview you're interested in
:::then a few days later
Go ahead, thanks for asking!
[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

== External Link ==
On the uncensored version, should the warning be removed since there's already a warning about the transcript? [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

The site is down. [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 14:23, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

== Date ==

When was this interview made? [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 14:23, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Talk:l33t Interview

2006-04-19T14:23:29Z

Meneth: /* External Link */

Talk:l33t Interview

2006-04-19T14:22:52Z

Meneth: signed

===PG-13?===
Can you guys give me a good reason why you keep censoring back the interview? Yes, it's wrong to put PG-13 language on a fansite for a PG website, but what's wrong with my foul language warning? I mean, if we censor every swear TBC say, should't we start censoring everytime Strong Bad says "crap" (a swear to some)? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]]

:[[HRWiki:About]]. No swears. Ever. If someone cares that much about it they can read the actual interview. →''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>''

::Plus 'crap' is on a slightly different level from '****', '***', and especially '****'. If we start allowing swears, it would lower the dignity of the Wiki. Before long, people would start swearing on all their talk comments, in the articles, and this wouldn't be a family safe site anymore. Besides, most people who really want to know what's behind the stars can usuall guess by the context, and there is always the source at the bottom too, yes. ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|⇔]][[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|⇔]]</tt>'' 05:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Still, I don't see anything wrong with an uncensored transcript with a warning. While I do hate trolls who add profanity to a family site, what if the site became more vulgar? (highly unlikely, but still) Would we censor transcripts for something that's not for kids anymore? If the interviews gave TBC [[wikipedia:Freedom_of_speech|freedom of speech]], why can't we? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 16:07, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:Trogga and I might not agree on a lot - but we DO agree on this point. It's one article that will never be transcribed properly if censored. I doubt everyone and his brother is going to start using profanities just because we transcribe an interview that contained them. --[[User:Jay|''Jay'']] [[User talk:Jay|(Talk)]] 16:11, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::Second Jay and Trogga. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 16:52, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::I also agree with Trogga. See my comments (and other's) at [[Talk:Interviews and Public Appearances]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

::I've posted my comment on this at [[Talk:Interviews and Public Appearances]]. I think the general rule is that "If it's on the site, it's acceptable here", meaning if H*R.com started to use a swear word, it would most likely have to be allowed here. That's how it is at the moment (I don't know what would happen if H*R.com did become less family friendly). [[User:Rainer|RAINER]][[User talk:Rainer|talk]] 09:13, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

:::Ditto. So what if there are swears? I'm 12, and I know this is more family friendly than my school is. --[[User:Ookelaylay|Ookelaylay]] 02:17, 15 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Copyright ==

Uh... I'm clearly seeing the following at the bottom of this interview:
<pre>Copyright © 2001 by www.wtfiml33t.com Staff, All Rights Reserved</pre>
I'm hoping whoever put this here got permission first and just forgot to post on the discussion page about it.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:32, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:Okay I'll go send an email to them now. [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]
::In case anyone was wondering... here's what they sent me:
:::First, I wrote them an email asking if we could use the transcript on this page (I posted a link to this article). A few days later, Greg sent me:
I'll talk to Stephan since it's his interview you're interested in
:::then a few days later
Go ahead, thanks for asking!
[[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

== External Link ==
On the uncensored version, should the warning be removed since there's already a warning about the transcript? [[User:Ed smildE|EDSMILDE]]

== Date ==

When was this interview made? [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 14:22, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Talk:l33t Interview

2006-04-19T14:22:03Z

Meneth: Date

Kissyboots

2006-03-16T09:59:21Z

Meneth: corrected "most of me" quote

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|+<big>'''Kissyboots'''</big>
|-
| align=center colspan=2 | [[Image:Kissyboots.png|230px]]
|- valign=top
! Origins
| [[Teen Girl Squad Locations|Teen Girl Squad universe]]
|- valign=top
! Genre(s)
| [[Wikipedia:Punk rock|Punk rock]]
|- valign=top
! Members
| [[Cheerleader]] [[So and So]] [[What's Her Face]] [[The Ugly One]]
|- valign=top
! Backup
| [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#A Shark|A Shark]]
|- valign=top
! Discography
| Ooncha Ooncha (2005) it's over!! (2005)
|- valign=top
! Producer
| N/A
|- valign=top
|}

'''Kissyboots''' is a band featured in [[Teen Girl Squad]]. The band members are:
*[[Cheerleader]] (singer and pretend-to-play-guitarist)
*[[So and So]] (keyboardist)
*[[What's Her Face]] (begrudging bass guitarist)
*[[The Ugly One]] (drummer)

[[Image:TGS_Kissyboots.png|thumb|220px|left|Teen Girl Band]] The genesis of the band took place in class at school with all four members present, in the week of their school's Battle of the Bands. The name ''Smartly Pretty'' was originally suggested by So and So, but was overruled by Cheerleader, who came up with the present name. After practices in [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson's Walk-in Closet]] they were ready for their debut at the Battle of the Bands, which was less than spectacular due to the swift and brutal deaths of band members meted out by [[Strong Bad]]'s imagination.

At the end of Kissyboots' brief run, [[Image:smartly_pretty.png|thumb|220px|left|"Augh! Bleh! Ewww! Grugh! No."]] all the original members except for Cheerleader had been replaced by [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#A Shark|a shark]], who broke into the band by inexplicably replacing What's Her Face's bass mid-performance and eating her "most of me". It is assumed that the shark then ate Cheerleader at the end of the song, as chomping noises were heard, and Cheerleader sings "everybody died 'cept me" and after the chomping she says "oh, crap".

=== Discography ===
*Ooncha Ooncha (single, 2005)
*it's over!! (single, 2005)

=== Appearances ===
*'''Debut:''' [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]

[[Category:Teen Girl Squad Characters]]
[[Category:Bands]]

Podstar Runner 2008

2006-02-08T07:49:07Z

Meneth: /* Glitches */ crying glitch fixed

[[Image:Podstar.PNG|thumb|"What am I doing in this tiny box?"]]
'''Podstar Runner''' is a collection of [[Strong Bad Emails]] transferable to a [[Wikipedia:IPod#Fifth generation|fifth generation]] [[Wikipedia:IPod|iPod]], in [[Wikipedia:MPEG-4 Part 14|.m4v]] format. It was released simultaneously with the email [[technology]]. Currently, it features the emails [[techno]], [[dragon]], [[japanese cartoon]], [[kids' book]], [[bottom 10]], and [[crying]], although it promises to feature more in the future.

'''Places:''' [[iPod Menu]]

'''Page Title:''' Podstar Runner, Come On And Come On, Y'all

'''Release Date:''' January 30th, 2006
:'''Updates:''' Feburary 6, 2006
==Transcript==

''{The Homestar Runner head from the spoof on Apple's "Think different" campaign appears. After a few seconds, the iPod menu appears and scrolls down to the bottom.}''

''{The selected email plays.}''

''{After the email has played, the screen cuts back to the "iPod menu". After a second, Strong Bad's head pops into view}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, what am I doing in this tiny box? ''{starts banging his head and hands on the screen}'' Let me! Outta the! Tiny! Box!

''{The screen appears to shatter, with a shattering sound effect.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoops. Hope you got the extended warranty.

''{The shattered screen crackles, and goes black.}''

==Fun Facts==

===Remarks===

*Although the files are directed towards use on a fifth generation iPod, the iPod shown in the background is technically a [[Wikipedia:IPod#Fourth generation|fourth generation]] iPod. This is due to the positioning of the headphone jack at the top-center of the iPod instead of the top-right. Interesting to note, however, is the fact that the screen's dimensions match that of a fifth generation iPod.
*None of the Easter eggs from the original versions are present; [[Homsar]]'s appearance in [[dragon]] is the exception.
*The notice on the main page originally said "sbemail podcast!" but it was later changed to "sbemails on ipod!". This was most likely changed after noting that Podstar Runner was not truly a [[Wikipedia:Podcasting|podcast]], due to the videos not being broadcasted through a [[Wikipedia:RSS (file format)|RSS feed]] [[Wikipedia:Web syndication|syndication]]. As of February 6th, 2006, however, an official RSS feed has been released making Podstar Runner an actual podcast.

===Trivia===

*The label on the disk in the floppy disk container may read "[[Floppy Disk Container#podstar floppy|Discoveries of the Deep]]".

===Glitches===

*Due to the use of [[Wikipedia:Hyperlink|relative linking]] in the navbar, clicking on any of the links on the bottom of the page used to take you to a nonexistent page beginning with ''<nowiki>http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/</nowiki>'', with the [[Store]] being the only exception. The links have since been fixed, so the paths now direct you back to a page on www.homestarrunner.com.
*In the RSS feed, the description of [[crying]] was the same as that of [[kids' book]], namely "Strong Bad seriously defaces a children's book." This has since been fixed.

===Inside References===

*The page title refers to the [[Strong Bad Email Intros|email intro]] of [[rampage]].

==External Links==

*[[Podstar:index.html|Podstar Runner]]
*[[Podstar:podcast.xml|Podstar Runner XML feed]]
*[[Podstar:podcast_bkgrd.jpg|View the page background]]
*[[Podstar:hrpodcast_pic.jpg|View the "album art"]]
*[[Podstar:sb_email_techno.m4v|Download "techno"]] (3.5 MB)
*[[Podstar:sb_email_trogdor.m4v|Download "dragon"]] (9.3 MB)
*[[Podstar:sb_email_japanese_cartoon.m4v|Download "japanese cartoon"]] (5.8 MB)
*[[Podstar:sb_email_kids_book.m4v|Download "kids' book"]] (4.6 MB)
*[[Podstar:sb_email_crying.m4v|Download "crying"]] (9.7 MB)
*[[Podstar:sb_email_bottom10.m4v|Download "bottom 10"]] (11.2 MB)

''[http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/ iTunes 4.8] or later or Quicktime 6.0 ([http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/mac.html mac], [http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/win.html win]) or later required to view files.''

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HRWiki talk:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.5

2005-12-19T08:02:20Z

Meneth: /* Images */

==Nifty stuff==
The "Edit diff." feature sounds fortuitous. I'm not sure I understood the permalink business, though. —[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 06:37, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:For instance, the current revision of the [[HRFWiki:Main Page|fanstuff Main Page]] is [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=119031 rev 119031]. With 1.4 and earlier, it is not possible to have a link that would always display what was on the page at the time that you viewed it, as the current link in 1.4 just has an [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki_talk:Upgrade_to_MediaWiki_1.5&oldid=0 oldid of 0]. That link will always take you to the current version, which may have been updated since the time you linked to the article. This is important when someone would want to cite an article for research and so forth.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 07:03, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::I'm looking forward to the 'Print' tab I've heard about. I'm always up for a new tab. And the move log sounds kinda nifty. I am gonna miss that maintenance page though, *sniff*. I fondly remember searching for double redirects. Is the upgrade probably gonna be finished by Monday morning, NA time? Or are we probably gonna be late updating the Wiki for the Monday update? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:53, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::When no one was looking late last night, I did a complete dry run and everything worked as expected. It didn't take more than a few hours, and I think I'll be able to shave a few minutes off that because of some of the prepping I've been doing. I expect that everything will be done by Monday barring anything drastic happening. Who knows, I could have a dozen ninjas bust in through my window and I'd have to fight them off instead.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:01, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::::What, you mean ''again''? But I called them off the last time! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 21:05, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::::Just for the record, ''I'' was looking. But I didn't really see anything I understood. I'm pretty sure I didn't see any ninjas, though. (And yeah, that was prettydanglate, especially for EST; don't ask me why I was awake!) —[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 21:19, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::::::Don't forget pirates. Ninjas and Pirates. Well, looking forward to it. See all y'alls on the 1.5 flipside. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:21, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

==Logo is messed up==
While I am searching the wiki some times tho hrwiki logo in the top-left corner of the screen turns to the mediawiki flower logo with a message saying: "set #wgLogo to the URL parh to your own logo image". Is the hrwiki logo not set up properly?
[[User:Matt|Matt]] 15:47, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Okay, that was a problem where the Wiki was in two places at once for a little while. I don't know how people made it into the "/new" directory, but this is all fixed now.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:16, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== Images ==

A few images will not display correctly, but fixing them is simple. They just need to be re-uploaded.

<blockquote><div style="float:right">http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/images/4/4e/20051007_broken_fanstuff_image_example.png</div>
Steps to reupload image:
#Find broken image
#Go to image description page
#Click on direct image link. In the example to the right, this is "ZipZap_OldSchool.png".
#Save this image to your computer.
#Click on the "Upload a new version of this file" link on the image description page.
#Browse to the location that you saved the image and re-upload the file, making sure to click the "Save file" button when the upload warning appears.</blockquote>
Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:20, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:I've looked through [[Special:Newimages]] until [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Newimages&until=20050715203537 20050715203537] (or there abouts) and found the following. (The broken ones will appear as [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/icons/fileicon.png this image].) Feel free to pick up where I left off.
<s>[[:Image:JHDC05.JPG]]
[[:Image:20050922 sketchbook dreamaway johnny.PNG]]
[[:Image:Flashfight.PNG]]
[[:Image:Ripberger.PNG]]
[[:Image:The Randomiser.gif]]
[[:Image:20050915 sketchbook pom poms family.PNG]]
[[:Image:Crackotage2.PNG]]
[[:Image:Atari Homestar.PNG]]
[[:Image:Dangeresque.PNG]]
[[:Image:Frank Bennedetto.PNG]]
[[:Image:Tofu Homestar.png]]
[[:Image:Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters.png]]
[[:Image:Townsfolk.PNG]]
[[:Image:Snake.PNG]]
[[:Image:Cricket.PNG]]
[[:Image:Squirrel.PNG]]
[[:Image:Fox.PNG]]
[[:Image:20050825 sketchbook more weird snakes.PNG]]
[[:Image:A Little Girl.PNG]]
[[:Image:The Mayor.PNG]]
[[:Image:DancingBros.PNG]]
[[:Image:Kobe 1-4.png]]
[[:Image:Reynold.PNG]]
[[:Image:040919 sketchbook.png]]
[[:Image:20050818 sketchbook matt just drew these.PNG]]
[[:Image:Perry Palaroncini.PNG]]
[[:Image:Puppets Little Girl Outtakes2.JPG]]
[[:Image:Puppets Little Girl Outtakes.JPG]]
[[:Image:20050804 sketchbook ilko concept art.PNG]]
[[:Image:1936 Strong Bad.png]]
[[:Image:20050721 sketchbook whiteboard wet cheat.PNG]]
[[:Image:Quote Of Week Box Design.PNG]]
[[:Image:PomPomSnowman.png]]</s>
:Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:36, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Here's up to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Newimages&until=20050514105519 20050514105519]:
<s>[[:Image:20050707 sketchbook matts early homsars.PNG]]
[[:Image:Mission Control.JPG]]
[[:Image:Comix-Heavy Sample.png]]
[[:Image:Shareholders.gif]]
[[:Image:Styles Upon Styles Logo.PNG]]
[[:Image:20050701 sketchbook mike shank.PNG]]
[[:Image:Dullard comic.png]]
[[:Image:20050623 sketchbook riddle me twice.PNG]]
[[:Image:TragicClownDog.PNG]]
[[:Image:Vector Homestar.PNG]]
[[:Image:Virus Bad.PNG]]
[[:Image:Aunt Gert.PNG]]
[[:Image:20050602 weekly sketchbook blue laser ungurait.PNG]]
[[:Image:Westminster.png]]
[[:Image:VOY DOT LCD.png]]
[[:Image:LCDD.png]]
[[:Image:Joystix.png]]
[[:Image:Glitch0.png]]
[[:Image:Commodore 64.png]]
[[:Image:Bauhaus 93.png]]
[[:Image:Ahnberghand.png]]
[[:Image:20X6 Badguy.PNG]]
[[:Image:Harmless Junk.JPG]]
[[:Image:20050512 weekly sketchbook the new style.png]]
[[:Image:Bug in mouth.PNG]]
[[:Image:PRS.png]]</s>

:I'm having a problem with [[:Image:1936 Strong Bad.png]]. There isn't a download link to the file, so I can't download it to re-upload it. Any ideas? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 12:22, 9 October 2005 (BST)
::I've tried to re-upload it, to no avail. [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 20:30, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
:::It works fine for me. What's wrong with it on your end?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:31, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
::::[http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/Not1936SB.png Here's a screenshot.] --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:36, 9 October 2005 (BST)
:::::This image, and [[Image:sbghost.jpg|sbghost.jpg]] as well, are being adblocked. Disabling adblock for hrwiki.org should fix the problem. [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 08:02, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

nvm, main_22.png works after all. [[User:DDRfreak1|posted by DDRfreak1]] 15:20, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:More, through [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Newimages&until=20041125003209 20041125003209]:
<s>
[[:Image:Mrs Commanderson with Cheat Commandos.png]]
[[:Image:SpaceSketchBook.PNG]]
[[:Image:The Lil Brudder Show.png]]
[[:Image:StinkoDude.PNG]]
[[:Image:Cheap as free.PNG]]
[[:Image:FattysBigChance2.png]]
[[:Image:Strong Sad in the bathroom.png]]
[[:Image:Unnamed Girl.PNG]]
[[:Image:KeisersLatrine.PNG]]
[[:Image:MissyPalmer.jpg]]
[[:Image:Peasantry Map Real.png]]
[[:Image:Happy T.png]]
[[:Image:TGS Kissyboots.png]]
[[:Image:20050120 sketchbook brotherly love.png]]
[[:Image:50Kracewalk.PNG]]
[[:Image:QWERTY.PNG]]
[[:Image:Videlectrix developers.jpg]]
[[:Image:Kinda long-haired band.png]]
[[:Image:Mendelev the archer.png]]
[[:Image:Blue Knight.png]]
[[:Image:Bookazon screenshot.png]]
[[:Image:Strong Bads Website.png]]
[[:Image:Email page screenshot.png]]
[[:Image:LitterOfCheatpups.PNG]]
[[:Image:Homestar Runner Face Screen Saver.png]]
[[:Image:Cold One Premium Alcoholic Screen Saver.png]]
[[:Image:3 dee logo.PNG]]
[[:Image:John & John 2.png]]
[[:Image:Yearbook page.png]]
[[:Image:WSBD coozie.png]]
[[:Image:Portly Washboy.gif]]
[[:Image:Bubs with Keytar.png]]
[[:Image:PuppetTime.png]]
[[:Image:Compy 2.png]]
[[:Image:Puppet vitaminscelebrities.png]]
[[:Image:Puppet lazorbeams.png]]
[[:Image:Holiday Toons Pic.PNG]]
</s>

:And this should be the last of them:
<s>
[[:Image:20X6 versus 1936.png]]
[[:Image:Hairstyle runner.png]]
[[:Image:Spooky Toilet.PNG]]
[[:Image:TreatSnatcha.png]]
[[:Image:TheBrothersChapsBandW.jpg]]
[[:Image:TheBrothersChaps.jpg]]
[[:Image:TMBG Marshie closeup 20040925.jpg]]
[[:Image:Clay Toilet.PNG]]
[[:Image:Cheat Toilet.PNG]]
[[:Image:Kids Toilet.PNG]]
[[:Image:Book Toilet.PNG]]
[[:Image:CastleFunniesSketches.png]]
[[:Image:KoT People.PNG]]
[[:Image:Duck Gaurd One.PNG]]
[[:Image:King Brothers Game.PNG]]
[[:Image:Strong Libs.PNG]]
[[:Image:TTOM One.PNG]]
</s>

The following are ones I've found with bad images when not logged in: [[Whatsit]] and [[Pigs on Head]]. Bye, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] from FL 03:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:The images on those pages seem okay, so maybe it's your cache? Have you tried purging it or hard-refreshing the pages?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Cache problem again? No matter, alls I gotta do is log in and I'm fine. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 10:48, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== Table of Contents ==

I know this sounds kind of petty, but the table of contents toggle link for every page is ''undefined'' and will not perform its script. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 13:59, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Okay, one user ran into this problem on the Fanstuff wiki. I think it might have something to do with your JavaScript settings. See [[HRFWiki:HRFWiki talk:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.5#Table of Contents|this discussion for details.]][[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:19, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::It's not a client-side problem. The scripts for the TOC link here are broken on so many levels I don't know where to begin...
::*The pages have the script<pre>if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = "show"; var tocHideText = "hide"; showTocToggle(); }</pre>and [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/wikibits.js this] has the function<pre>function showTocToggle(show,hide) {</pre> - it's not passing the parameters correctly to the function.
::*The showTocToggle function uses document.write() - in the age of DOM this is almost a capital offence for a site that tries to be standards compliant.
::*The showTocToggle function checks that the DOM functions exist and bails out of they don't. This makes the previous point even worse because it shows the writer knew about DOM. But then it fails to use them at all in the script.
::However the corresponding [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org/skins/common/wikibits.js fanstuff scripts] work properly - perhaps you could just copy the function over? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 17:17, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:::I'd love to try that, but the functions look exactly the same in those two files. I don't get it...[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:35, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Hmm, it seems someone copied it over already... might have been a caching issue at my end. Though I swear when I checked as I wrote that post the script for this site looked something like
<pre>function showTocToggle(show,hide) {
if (document.getElementById) {
document.write("something... I forget exactly what, but it wasn't working");
}
}</pre>
::::{{User:Phlip/sig}} 17:40, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::Okay, so it's some kind of cache problem then. Good investigating Philip, thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:46, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== Can't log in ==

This is [[User:mibluvr13|mibluvr13]] here and I can't seem to log in. I kept typing ''m''ibluvr13, but it acted like there was no such username. So I put my password in twice and my email and made a "new" username, which showed up as ''M''ibluvr13. Help?

:This is [[User:computerdude33|computerdude33]]. I'm having the exact same "no username found" error.
::My user name is red, there's nothing in it, and I acidently clicked the email me a new password and the one that was sent doesn't work!--bkmlb

:::Okay, I feared this happening. Users with lowercase first letters can no longer login. I don't think there's any way I can fix this. There should be a way that I can transfer your contribs to another username, I think, but I'm going to have to look into that. Sorry.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:24, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::::But, Bkmlb is a troll impersonator, so what should I do?--bkmlb

:::::You have any other username ideas? -Computerdude33

:::::Okay, now, I'm '''Bkmlb.''' with the period. --[[User:Bkmlb.|Bkmlb.]] 16:42, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Can we now move our old pages to new pages?--[[User:Bkmlb.|Bkmlb.]] 16:50, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Sure.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:14, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::If you want to nip that 'period at the end of your name' in the bud, give [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]] a ring, and get him to delete the 'Bkmlb' username. I would think Tom could do it too, but they're your only two options, I think. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:22, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

One way to fix this would be to go into the database and edit any user with a lowercase first letter's '''user_name''' field and capitalize the first letter. - porplemontage

:Hmm. Hey Steve, you up for being the test case for this one?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:32, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::Go for it. -porplemontage

:::Okay, you are now "Porplemontage" in the database and you should be able to login without a problem. Now it should be as simple as moving your userpage to the new name, me thinks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:49, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Okay, your [[Special:Contributions/porplemontage|contribs]] need to be moved, and I'm going to work on that now.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:51, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::Yeah, I just noticed that too. Other than my contributions and my userpage names everything seems to be intact. --'''[[User:porplemontage|Steve]]''' (''[[User talk:porplemontage|talk]]'') 17:56, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::Okay. Also, I just found [[MetaWikipedia:Renameuser|this extension]] which I'm going to give a try. Let's see how it goes...[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:00, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::::Sigs need fixing too after all this. Any sig subpages seem to become redirects, so you have to edit the old sigpage to just a usual sig, and leave it at that. [[User:Bkmlb|Bkmlb]] and I just went through the whole thing at his [[User talk:Bkmlb#sig rederect|talk page]]. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 18:04, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Is there anyway I can get my watchlist back too? No way I'll ever remember all the pages I had on there. -- [[User:Mibluvr13|Mibluvr13]] 19:16, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm having the same problem. Please help. [[User:invisible robot fish|invisible robot fish]]

Actually, I had always wished I had a more thoughtfully selected name than [[User:notstrongorbad]]. Official announcement: I'm now [[User:AbdiViklas]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:17, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

'''Please see [[HRWiki:Changing username]] for all information regarding changing your username.''' This will fix all of our problems, and I'll be better able to deal with things on a one to one basis there. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:54, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== Main Page ==

Some thing's happened to the [[Main Page]]. I'd say trolling, but its protected. The "templates" are all messed up, but I'm checking again. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 15:20, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
:In the last minute, things have really gotten messed up! It's as if the site's being pulled into a reality warping vortex! ABORT!! -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 15:28, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
::Okay, maybe not. I still better go. Maybe. -[[User:FaceCrap|FaceCrap]] 15:31, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
:::There's some discussion [http://www.hrwiki.org/new/index.php/HRWiki_talk:Upgrade_to_MediaWiki_1.5 here] leading me to believe that at one point many of the templates pointed to a directory called "new" for some time. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 15:33, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Ah! Almost all of the sbemail links are red!!--[[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]] (password problem, not logged in)

:::::This is also because you guys ended up in the "/new" directory some how. It's fixed now, as you can't get there any more.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:20, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== Capitalisation ==

I think I've pinpointed a source to one of the problem: everything that begins with a lowercase letter is being sent to a version with a capital letter. So, for example, the email 'pom pom' redirects to 'Pom pom' (which is his character page. It even affects users (which may be why some people can't log in). I'm sure you've noticed this yourself, but I thought I'd point it out anyway. Just to help. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:This is also because you ended up in the "/new" directory some how. It's fixed now, as you can't get there any more.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:21, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

==Watchlists==

No biggie, but my (and likely everybody else's) watchlists have been reset, so that any changes to watched pages that happened before MediaWiki 1.5 aren't on the watchlist. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:50, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Well that's kinda nifty. It seems that once you click on a bolded item on your watchlist, the next time you go to your watchlist the change is no longer bolded. Probably the case is the same for watched pages in Recent Changes. That's new, right? It is pretty nifty. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:02, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, pretty cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:03, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:::One other thing I discovered about it, is if you just check 'diff', it stays bold. You have to click on the actual page for it to de-bold. That's my contribution to the 1.5 transition. :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:58, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

== Edit Summaries ==

The edit summaries in Recent changes and page histories are not italic, but WP's are. *bites fingernails* —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 18:35, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:They are italic for me. Hmm.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:50, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::Firefox problem. Cache clear worked. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 20:04, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== 404'd ==

I can't go into Stinkoman 20X6 Enimies, because every time I click on it it goes to a 404 page. - [[User:Genstar Morenner|Genstar]]

never mind --[[User:Genstar Morenner|Genstar]] 18:55, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Most pages are blocked by 404'd, even ones I previously visited. --[[user:anomynimys]] 16:30, 9 october 2005 (UTC)

:Which pages? What are the urls when you get the 404 errors?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:34, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

All gotten multiple in the Stinkoman 20X6 pages.---[[User:RatherAnnoying|RatherAnnoying]] 22:45, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:What pages? Could you provide the names for the page and the URLs for when you receive the 404 errors?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:22, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

<s>Many</s> A few pages point to /new/index.php instead of /index.php. This is causing all the 404s. One example is a few of the links on [[Horrible Painting]]. [[User:The MAZZTer|The MAZZTer]]

:None of the links on that page do what you described. Could you provide the URLs for when you receive the 404 errors and the pages that link to them?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:13, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

All links to videlectrix games result in a 404'd page.

:Specifically, the non-playable Videlectrix games and Horrible Painting's links, pictures, and so on, all lead to that "/new" directory thing mentioned earlier. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:: I'm not seeing this... --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:04, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::I could make a screenshot if you'd like. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::: I'm not saying it's not happening for you, but it's not happening for me. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:13, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::Hmm. 'Tis a puzzlement. Maybe it's my browser or something. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

I am seeing it for me, on a few pages. If it helps, I'm running Mozilla Firefox 1.07 on Windows 98 SE. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] [[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]] 03:18, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:Eh, I just ran a purge command on [[Horrible Painting|the page I was seeing problems with]], and it fixed it. For me, at least. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] [[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]] 03:18, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Whatever it was you did, it works for me now too. Weird... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::Try purging the cache for each of the pages. Dorian, you said the non-playable Videlectrix games. (Meaning, if [[Rabbit Algebra]] does not work, purge it's cache by clicking on [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Rabbit_Algebra&action=purge this link].) Then [[Rabbit Algebra|try it again]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 03:23, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::::How do you do that purging thing? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::::*The easiest way for me is to right click on the edit tab, and copy the URL. Then I paste that into the address bar, but replace action=edit with action=purge. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] [[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]] 03:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::Thanks for that, Blu Aardvark. It worked. All the pages that seemed messed up are all right again. I'll have to keep that ability in mind. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Character Head Images==

The images won't load on [[Quote of the Week Character Heads]] and the links point to http://www.hrwiki.org/new/index.php/

:They display okay for me. Is it better now?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:37, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::No, they still don't display. The weird thing is if I go to the history page and compare the last two versions, then everything looks correct. - [[User:M Moogle|M Moogle]]

:::Have you tried a hard refresh of the page? Or emptying your browser's cache?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:45, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Yep, I tried both. For good measure I even tried it in IE which I never use, and it still didn't load correctly. - [[User:M Moogle|M Moogle]]

:::::Doesn't work for me either. Just so you know it's not just him. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::::::Any better now? Are you sure you cleared all of your temp files, etc.?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:12, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::::It looks normal now. I don't know what you did, but you sure fixed everything up. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

:::::::It works for me now as well. - [[User:M Moogle|M Moogle]]

:::::::This happened to me on several cheat commandos links, any help?

:::::::Try the thread right above this, "404'd." It seems to address the same problem. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:05, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

== New pages ==

[[Crisper drawer]] doesn't appear on [[Special:Newpages]]. I'm not sure if this happens for every new page (this very page appears on it, though). {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:16, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Hmm, that might be because of how it got moved and stuff, or maybe something else. It seems to work for other pages though.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:39, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

==Protected Page Message==

Whenever I edited a protected page, it would say "WARNING: This page has been locked so that only users with sysop privileges can edit it. Be sure you are following the protected page guidelines." It still does this, but it's not bolded anymore. Is this supposed to happen? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:41, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Fixed. See [[MediaWiki:Protectedpagewarning]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:48, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== That table thing ==

I seem to remember that table "movie preview" thing on my userpage being all white. Now, some of it is black. Am i remembering incorrectly, or is it a problem? --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 21:33, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

I checked into the page I got it from, [[Commandos in the Classroom]], and part of that is black too.

:I fixed it for you. The [http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/monobook/main.css Monobook stylesheet] has a rule which make table contents black text by default - so you need to override that in the table style. I'm guessing it wasn't like that in 1.4, so tables would inherit the text colour from their parent. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:39, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks Philip. --{{User:Smileyface11945/sig}} 21:46, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

== Minor exclamation ==

This is a minor thing, but is the order of the exclamation point and the minor "m" reversed from what it used to be in the recent changes? If I'm remembering correctly, the red exclamation points used to all line up, and it was better that way. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:31, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
: !Hey, you're right --{{User:Jay/sig}} 04:37, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::I can't change the order (easily, I'd imagine), but I can easily style and . How do you guys want it?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 04:46, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Okay, so after a second viewing under the tutelage of Pom Pom's keen eyes, it appears that I was misremembering the old version, as this example shows:

<div style="border:1px #CCC solid;padding:3px;background:#fafafa;margin-left:7.5em">• ([http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=3_Times_Halloween_Funjob&curid=1020&diff=160173&oldid=159585&rcid=112217 diff]) ([http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=3_Times_Halloween_Funjob&curid=1020&action=history hist]) . . m ! [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]]; 10:16 . . [[User:Homestar_Coder|Homestar Coder]] ([[User_talk:Homestar_Coder|Talk]]) (Reverted ...)</div>

:::Apparently, the difference is that there used to be a space between the two. I wonder why this was changed. (Also, the styles themselves are fine and don't need to be changed.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:12, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::::Hmm, I seem to remember this:
<div style="border:1px #CCC solid;padding:3px;background:#fafafa;margin-left:9.5em">http://www.hrwiki.org/skins/common/images/Arr_r.png<tt> m! 11:32 </tt>[[Main Page]] ([[Main Page|diff]]; [[Main Page|hist]]) . . [[Special:Contributions/Tom|127.0.0.1]] ([[User talk:Tom|Talk]]) ([[Main Page#Section|→]]Section - Editing this section.)</div>
::::Also, the relavent code is found around line 18 in [http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/phase3/includes/ChangesList.php?view=markup ChangesList.php] is as follows:
<pre> /**
* Returns the appropiate flags for new page, minor change and patrolling
*/
function recentChangesFlags( $new, $minor, $patrolled, $nothing = '&nbsp;' ) {
$f = $new ? '' . wfMsgHtml( 'newpageletter' ) . ''
: $nothing;
$f .= $minor ? '' . wfMsgHtml( 'minoreditletter' ) . ''
: $nothing;
$f .= $patrolled ? '!' : $nothing;
return $f;
}</pre>
::::What do you think? Is it really different?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:06, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::I've never seen anything like your example. Could it be the developer version? The example I provided was taken directly from an HTML dump of the recent changes right before the upgrade (edited to make the links work and for the length of the line, but otherwise intact). The only difference I see between it and the current recent changes is the space between the m and the !. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:21, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::No, not a developer version, I just have Enhanced Recent Changes enabled in my [[Special:Preferences|preferences]]. That's what it looks like for me. Yours is what it looks like for regular Recent Changes.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

==HELP!==
it wont log me on! ive tryed it over and over agen with no luck im djm1791 plese help!

:Apparantly, there's a problem with usernames that start with a lowercase letter. Look in the [[HRWiki talk:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.5#Can.'t log in|Can't log in]] section of this page. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] [[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]] 08:32, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Did you receive an error message when you attempted to login?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:44, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

:::yes

::::And what did the error message say?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:56, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

==Re-confirming E-mail address==
Ever since the upgrade, I am finding it difficult to email anyone via the wiki's '''E-mail this user''' link. For some reason, the system thinks that none of the email adresses have been authenticated, thus requiring everyone to visit [[Special:Preferences|Preferences]]. Under the "Email" portion of "User data" one will find a way to have a new e-mail address confirmation sent. I am fairly sure this has affected all users. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 14:07, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:It affected me. {{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 09:33, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

== Well, this is odd ==

I keep getting this mess:

'''Line 32: Line 32:''' <nowiki>== {{User:GWR_2004/headtemplate|Contributions from gwr2004}} == == {{User:GWR_2004/headtemplate|Contributions from gwr2004}} ==</nowiki>
'''Fatal error:''' Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in '''/home/hrwiki/public_html/includes/DifferenceEngine.php''' on line '''662'''

when I try to patrol this edit:
http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:GWR_2004&curid=3346&diff=171113&oldid=171093&rcid=113859

Why? I don't know. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 22:39, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

:It looks like [[User:GWR 2004]] is doing some crazy stuff on his/her userpage. He or she might have broken something, but I'm guessing a particular thing they did just queried the database too heavily. You might want to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:GWR_2004&action=edit&section=new ask them].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

::I tried that diff a few days ago. Someone went on my user page and LINK'D!! a whole bunch of [[Special:Contributions/GWR 2004|contributions]] on that page before I found out about the whole [[HRWiki:Changing username|request]] process. {{User:gwr2004/sig}} 23:22, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Had to do some wweird things with URLs, but I finally got marked as patrolled. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:46, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

== Database error ==

I have gotten several database errors recently. Here is the last:
<blockquote>A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
<blockquote>(SQL query hidden)</blockquote>
from within function "MediaWikiBagOStuff:_doquery". MySQL returned error "1062: Duplicate entry 'hrwiki_mwiki6:messages:Bad_image_list' for key 1 (localhost)".</blockquote>
— [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:31, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

:Did you hide the SQL query or did the software?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:46, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

::The software. The above is copied and pasted as-was. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:The last time I saw this error message, it was when [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] was blanked instead of leaving it is a dash. But now, content is in there, and the error is still occuring. I am using Mozilla Firefox 1.0.7 on a Windows XP Professional machine, if that information is necessary. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 21:51, 12 October 2005 (BST)
::Tom, think it's possible to enable display of the queries? (Or alternatively, just send out an e-mail with it?) The displayed error doesn't seem to bring any possible issue to mind, so it's hard to tell when there's no way of knowing what it was trying to do... --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 21:03, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
:::If the query should be displayed, set $wgShowSQLErrors to true in LocalSettings.php. If it should be e-mailed, add the code to the databaseError function in includes/OutputPage.php before the query is hidden. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 21:10, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

::::I like the OutputPage.php option better. How should I set that up?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

:::::Note that this is based on MediaWiki 1.4.5, but it should be quite similar in 1.5.x.
:::::Open includes/OutputPage.php and look for the text <code>function databaseError</code>. You should see a block of code similar to this:
function databaseError( $fname, $sql, $error, $errno ) {
global $wgUser, $wgCommandLineMode, $wgShowSQLErrors;

$this->setPageTitle( wfMsgNoDB( 'databaseerror' ) );
$this->setRobotpolicy( 'noindex,nofollow' );
$this->setArticleRelated( false );
$this->enableClientCache( false );
$this->mRedirect = '';

if( !$wgShowSQLErrors ) {
$sql = wfMsg( 'sqlhidden' );
}

:::::Add the following lines before <code>if( !$wgShowSQLErrors ) {</code>, putting in the appropriate e-mail address as the first parameter to mail():
$header='From: SQLMonitor@hrwiki.org\r\nX-Mailer: MediaWiki/'. $wgVersion .', PHP/'. phpversion();
mail('destination e-mail','HRWiki: Failed query',$sql, $header);
:::::Save and upload. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 17:17, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::Done. I'll let you know what errors come up.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:15, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::::If you prefer, you can add my e-mail address to the destination field by seperating the two with a comma. So that'd be <code>your@email.something, my@email.something</code>. This will send a copy of it to both addresses. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 21:28, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

::::::::I just spoke with Brion Vibber via IRC about the errors I've received already and he had me change a line in a file that should fix the problem. Let me know if the errors still occur.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:11, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

==Weird extra Talk Page note==

<pre>

# (cur) (last) 15:32, 15 October 2005 Thunderbird L17 (→Personal CSS - - Reply.) updated (since my last visit)
# (cur) (last) 15:26, 15 October 2005 It's dot com (Personal CSS)
# (cur) (last) 18:39, 13 October 2005 Thunderbird L17 (→Story? - - Reply to Lapper.)

</pre>

The 'updated (since my last visit)' was bordered seperately in red, and I didn't write it. Then I realized I was watching my talk page, therefore the 'new message' message kept coming up. I unwatched it, and the message went away. Any significance of the red bordered message at all? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:39, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:It's meant to show you if an article has been changed since the last time you visited it. I think it's a part of the [[wikipedia:m:Enotif|Enotif]] extension to MediaWiki, as it doesn't appear on Wikipedia. I don't really know a lot about that extension, but I think that's one of its features. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 23:59, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

::You're seeing the [[MediaWiki:Updatedmarker]]. As far as I know, what you've described is exactly what is supposed to happen. This feature came standard with MediaWiki 1.5.0 and simply put: the page has changed since your last visit.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:08, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

== You have new messages ==
The following threads discuss the same issue and have been grouped here. The cause of the problem was [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3805 bug 3805], which has now been fixed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:52, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

=== Thread 1 ===
I recently got a new message, and even though I replied, it still shows the You Have new Messages banner. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 20:39, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

:Hmm. It might be because someone changed another page on your watchlist. I haven't tested this yet though.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:43, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

::I removed my talk page from my watchlist, and the problem is fixed. ~�{{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

I had something similar happen to me, although my page is not on my watch list. Does anybody have any suggestsions? ~Isaac Smith

I still can't figure out why it's doing this. I've moved to a new computer, and logged in there, but I didn't think that that would fix it. Hmmmm... ~Isaac Smith
:Isaac, you may want to try manually clicking on the "unwatch" button on your user talk page. For some reason, our watchlists were not backward compatible, meaning that the system might tell you that you don't have any pages on your watchlist, even though you still do. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 02:38, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

=== Thread 2 ===
When I get a new message, I check it, but when I go anywhere else after checking it, it still says, "You have new messages" and the last messages were the ones I checked. HELP! - [[User:Young Roy|Young Roy]]
*I've had this same problem on another wiki, and although I am not sure what is causing it (the other wiki isn't upgraded yet), clearing your browser cache should solve it. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] [[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]] 12:04, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::The answer to your problem is already answered on this page right [[HRWiki_talk:Upgrade_to_MediaWiki_1.5#New_Messages|here]]. Always check before starting a new thread. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 12:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

=== Thread 3 ===

I seem to alweys have the "You have new messages." orange thingy above the page. I already read what was sent to me and repleyed. Why won't it go away? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:05, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

:Try removing your talk page from your watchlist. See [[#New Messages]] and [[#"New messages"]] for more information.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:53, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

::Oh. Thanks. Soo.. Now when I ''do'' get a new massege, would it show the orange bar? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 12:58, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Is it possible to fix this without the workaround? I like having my talk page on my watchlist. It's frustrating to have to unwatch it each time I get a new message. Speaking of this, it now seems impossible to add my talk page to my watchlist. I click "watch," but nothing changes. (Speaking of watchlists, regular talk pages have become temporarily separated from their article pages. If I want to reestablish the connection between the two, I have to manually unwatch and then re-watch the article.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:33, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

<s>Argh! The same thing is happening to me! I can't remove my talk page from my watchlist because it says that I have no items on my watchlist. But I know it has to be on my watchlist because the page title is in bold on Recent Changes. I just can't see to get rid of the banner or remove the page from the watch list! Please reply ASAP! 
PS: I tried adding this page to the watchlist and both this page AND User talk:The Chort have turned up. I can remove this page but not the talk page! Stupid Wiki! 
PPS: It's gone! HOORAY! Please ignore everything above this line. </s>
Just for the record, I got rid of the orange template thingy by adding my User page to my watchlist and then removing it. I think that sorted it. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 17:17, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

:Again, if you missed the notice above: This bug has been fixed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:52, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

==Talk page watchlist==

Here's something that's driving me mad. When you watch your talkpage, the new message sitemessage won't go away, right? So I unwatch it. The thing is, everytime I get a new message, it starts watching it again by itself. I looked, but it didn't seem like this problem was addressed here. Any suggestions? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 22:15, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

:It looks like the way the talk page is added to the watchlist has been changed. First of all, you no longer can manually add it to your watchlist. If someone sends you a message, your talk page is automatically watched. When you check your talk page, it is automatically unwatched (now that the bug above has been fixed). I don't know whether this is a separate bug or an intentional new feature. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:55, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

== Edit conflict ==

Obviously, the mechanism for determining whether there's an edit conflict has been enhanced to that if different sections are modified at the same time, a conflict doesn't necessarily occur. Is there some page somewhere that details the new functionality? In spite of it, however, I was still able to accidentally revert some changes with [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_10&diff=172151&oldid=172150 this edit] (the hidden comment) and had to fix it [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_10&diff=next&oldid=172154 here]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:38, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:What should happen is that it detects whether the section you were editing has changed. If not, it merges your changes into the article, regardless of any other edits.
:That said, I'm not sure why you had that happen to you, unless you had an edit conflict PRIOR to that and then copy/pasted your version to overwrite the other one. I've yet to see such a thing happen on Wikipedia. --[[User:Pidgeot|Pidgeot]] [[User_talk:Pidgeot|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Pidgeot|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Pidgeot|(e)]] 23:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, it's the [[MetaWikipedia:Help:Edit conflict]] technology. I think your situation might have something to do with your [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Teen_Girl_Squad_Issue_10&diff=172150&oldid=172149 previous edit], which dealt with that very text. Of course, I have no idea, but that's my best guess.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:14, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

:::This may have come up again recently, and it has been discussed on my talk page. To summarize, it probably has to do with [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1150 bug 1150]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:57, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

== Special:Random question. ==

How come this talk page seems to count as part of the main namespace for search and random page? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:Hmm. What's even more interesting is the difference between [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?ns0=1&search=mediawiki&searchx=Search this search] and [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Special:Search?ns5=1&search=mediawiki&searchx=Search this one].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:59, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Teen Girl Squad Issue 10

2005-12-17T17:33:59Z

Meneth: /* Remarks */ frame rate

[[Image:TeenGirlSquad10.PNG|200px|thumb|COLOR'D!]]

The Teen Girl Squad celebrates The Ugly One's sweet someteenth birthday in 24 great-smelling colors!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Cheerleader}}, {{Film|So and So}}, {{Film|What's Her Face}}, {{Film|The Ugly One}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#A Mighty Warrior|A Mighty Warrior]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Olympic Man and Coach|Olympic Man]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Olympic Man and Coach|Coach]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Wave o' Babies|Wave o' Babies]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Smiley Face Man|Smiley Face Man]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#George Washington, Abraham Lincoln & Henry Rollins|Henry Rollins]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#George Washington, Abraham Lincoln & Henry Rollins|Abraham Lincoln]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#George Washington, Abraham Lincoln & Henry Rollins|George Washington]], {{Film|Thomas}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Olda Boys|Olda Boys]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Quarterback|Quarterback]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Possums|Possums]], [[Visor Robot]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Gift Exchange Lion|Gift Exchange Lion]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Hawaiian Guy|Hawaiian Guy]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#No I In Team Boy|No I In Team Boy]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Dinosaur|Dinosaur]], [[Mrs. Commanderson]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Scotsmen|Scotsmen]], {{Film|Tompkins}}, [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Fatty|Fatty]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Intercom|Intercom]], [[Manolios Ugly One]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Vultures|Vultures]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Trolls|Trolls]], [[Mr. Pitters]], [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Learner's Permit Girl|Learner's Permit Girl]], {{Film|Arrow'd Guy}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}

'''Date:''' October 10, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:34

'''Page Title:''' Tenth Issue-versary!

== Transcript ==
'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' TEEN GIRL SQUAD: TENTHENNIAL EXTRAVAGANZA! In 24 Great-Smelling Colors! ''{the screen is filled with color}'' Cheerleader! ''{groovy grapefruit pink}'' So And So! ''{viscious violent violet}'' What's Her Face! ''{radacious bodadical razberry blue!}'' The Ugly One! ''{gnarly nursing home green}''

''{The episode begins with Cheerleader, So And So, and What's Her Face sitting at a lunch table.}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Lunchtime gals. Now let's get ready to eat...

'''CHEERLEADER, SO AND SO, WHAT'S HER FACE:''' NO FOOD!

'''SO AND SO:''' Eating lunch is for weirdos.

''{The Ugly One walks on to the screen with a cafeteria tray piled high with corn in her hands.}''

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Holla grlfrndz. It's Corn and Corn Alone Day!

''{The Ugly One places a plate of corn on the table. Cut to a close-up of the corn. A tiny samurai warrior carrying a [[Wikipedia:naginata|naginata]] jumps out of the corn.}''

'''WARRIOR:''' Corn is no place for a mighty warrior!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' So... who wants to come to my sweet someteen birthday bash tonight?

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Is it going to be Nick-at-Night themed again?

'''SO AND SO:''' ''{slaps her forehead}'' I don't think I can stomach another show not on the WB.

'''CHEERLEADER:''' No! We can't come. We have... the... Olympics... tonight!

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Oh, cuz it's a boy/girl party...

''{Close-up of So And So and Cheerleader, who look rather insane.}''

'''CHEERLEADER, SO AND SO:''' a B'GRL PRTY??!?

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Taking the vowels out of words doesn't always make them cool.

'''SO AND SO:''' 'm srry.

'''CHEERLEADER:''' ''{holds up a cell phone, from which "the olympics are sooooo dumb!" is coming}'' So, coach just called and said the Olympics are dumb. We'll be there like shareware!

''{Cut (the music stops). A small man in a red hoodie labeled "coach" is standing next to a rather angry-looking burly man labeled "olympic man." Behind him is a banner that says "OLYMPIC RACE," and a cell phone identical to Cheerleader's is on the ground beside the coach.}''

'''COACH:''' I don't know what they're talking about, I swear!

''{Cut again to the Teen Girl Squad (music starts again).}

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Now, more than ever before, let's get ready to look....

'''CHEERLEADER, SO AND SO, WHAT'S HER FACE, THE UGLY ONE:''' SO GOOOD! ''{the camera does a 360-degree spin around the girls}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' Whoa! That was about the coolest thing ever! Me gotta see that again.

''{The cartoon rewinds and replays the 360-spin. The "SO GOOOD!" speech bubble has disappeared and doesn't return. At the end, however, What's Her Face is still spinning.}'' Uh-oh. We got a spinner.

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Wheeeee! ''{the word slides to the right across the text bubble}''

''{A title slide entitled "AT THE PARTY" (imprinted on a cigarette, which a man is smoking) appears. Cut to the boy/girl party. Various characters from previous TGS episodes are attending. Pan right to reveal the TGS sans The Ugly One. What's Her Face is still spinning.}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Alright, wallflowers, watch a professional at work... I'm fit to get makey outy all over those uppaclassmen.

''{Cut to three Scots standing around a wooden barrel marked "XXX," holding froth-topped mugs.}''

'''SCOT #1:''' ACHGH!

'''SCOT #2:''' ACHGH!

'''SCOT #3:''' ACHGH!

''{Cheerleader walks in.}''

'''CHEERLEADER:''' Any o'you boys wanna ditch this preschool party? I know of a couple HAWT junior college jams we could hit.

''{One of the Scots throws Cheerleader away from them.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' CABER TOSSED!!

''{Cut to a spinning What's Her Face}''

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' I really want... some of these chips.

''{Dead Cheerleader falls at the feet of What's Her Face.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Tonk! Ponk!

'''SCOT:''' ''{off-screen}'' BAGH! Only 23 metres!

''{Cut to the bowl of chips. The warrior jumps out of the chips.}''

'''WARRIOR:''' Corn chips are no place for a mighty warrior!

''{The samurai's naginata digs into What's Her Face as she rotates, and the upper half of What's-Her-Face's body falls off.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' ''{grinding sound}'' LATHE'D!

'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Oww! I hope they have those corn chips in heaven!

''{Cut to So And So and Tompkins, playing a Game Boy.}''

'''SO AND SO:''' Say, Tompkins, Brett Bretterson and I are Splitsville, so I'm lookin for a little rebound action!

'''TOMPKINS:''' Hecks no! I got Bowser on the ropes!

''{A Koopa shell comes out of the Game Boy and strikes So And So in the face.}''

'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' ''{the word "pØwned!!" appears}'' Puh-owned! Or however you say that...

''{Cut to The Ugly One's Father, standing at a microphone, speaking to the party crowd.}''

'''MANOLIOS UGLY ONE:''' OK, party people, get ready to give it up for my little girl on her sweet someteenth birthday... and remember, if you're looking for low prices on used and broken electronics, don't forget... Manolios Ugly One's Lectro-Pawn!

'''TOMPKINS:''' ''{offscreen}'' p4wned! ''{said "peh-awned"}''

'''MANOLIOS UGLY ONE:''' And here she is... THE UGLY ONE!

''{Cut to The Ugly One, wearing a red dress and ''much'' more attractive than before. The music is ended with the scratching of a record.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa! Did ''I'' draw that new hotness?

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Thanks for coming to my party everyone! Now let's get it on like Diddy Kong!

''{All people at the party, including The Ugly One, begin dancing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ARROWED II! ELECTRIC—

''{Arrow'd Guy appears on the screen, wearing a tuxedo and holding a diamond ring in a box. He has two spikes on his back, a bad case of razor burn, and what appears to be a mound of corn in his breast pocket.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Wait a minute! Not this time, mister!

''{Strong Bad places a new piece of paper on the screen, containing The Ugly One and a muscular Strong Bad in a construction helmet. In the background are the [[Wikipedia:Great Sphinx of Giza|Great Sphinx of Giza]] and two pyramids.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, why, hello, The Ugly One, you're looking so makey outy tonight.

'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Why thank you Sir Hotbod Handsomeface. So are you!

''{Strong Bad and The Ugly One start making out. Cut to Strong Bad at his desk, making out with the paper of The Ugly One. Zoom out to a broader view of the desk, revealing Strong Mad, Strong Sad, and The Cheat standing next to him, looking bewildered.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh...mmm, not bad...oh, twice...

'''STRONG MAD:''' Oh?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh...

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{The Cheat noises}''

''{Strong Bad notices them, and quickly hides the paper.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh! Uh, this is a piece of uh... pi- pizzaa-aaa...

''{Strong Bad shoves most of the paper into his mouth.}''

''{Cut to a crumpled & salivated paper, with the "IT'S OVER" screen appearing on the paper. A faint outline of the making-out scene is visible.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{slightly muffled}'' IT'S OVER!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{off-screen}'' Uh, Strong Bad, were you just first-basin' it with that piece of loose-leaf?!

==Easter Eggs==
* At the end, click on the "O" to play a scene with Manolios Ugly One.
:'''MANOLIOS UGLY ONE:''' So okay, guys. Come down and be shopping at Manolios Ugly One's Lectro-pawn! ''{"come down and see us" flashes on the screen.}'' I have a price on broken VCR, smashed tape, or something like that. I'll be over here yelling, Manolios Lectro-pawn! ''{he appears upside-down from the top of the screen}'' Manolios Lectro-pawn! Or something like that.
* Click on the "!" to play a scene with the girls.
:'''CHEERLEADER:''' It's our tenth issue-versary!!! Let's do a clip show!!!
:'''SO AND SO:''' Let's have a wedding!!
:'''THE UGLY ONE:''' Let's have a baby!!!
:'''WHAT'S HER FACE:''' Let's kill someone off!
:'''NARRATOR STRONG BAD:''' Okay!
:''{A "splat" is heard, and Cheerleader's head is turned upside-down, but with one ponytail still coming out of the "top" of her head, with the other ponytail on her backside and her arms and legs swapped. So and So is squished by a giant golf ball. The Ugly One is eaten by a carnivorous plant. What's Her Face has a lampshade over her head.}''

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*"24 great-smelling colors" refers to scented markers like the [http://www.sanford.com/sanford/consumer/jhtml/new-product/productdetail.jhtml?attributeId=SNATT20025&nrProductId=SN20072 Mr. Sketch] series.
*"pØwned" is a variation of Internet slang meaning "owned". "[[Wikipedia:Pwn|Pwned]]" has numerous pronunciations, with popular ones including "owned" or "poned". Along the same lines, "P4wned" would also be [[Wikipedia:Leet|leetspeak]] for "pawned" as in pawn shop.
*The [[Wikipedia: Caber toss|Caber toss]] is a traditional Scottish sport, usually involving a log of specific weight. However, the remark "BAGH! Only 23 metres!" does not apply to the sport, for distance is not the object, rather how straight the throw is after it lands end-over-end.
*A [[Wikipedia:lathe|lathe]] is a tool used to create objects with [[wikipedia:rotational symmetry#Rotational symmetry with respect to any angle|cylindrical symmetry]] such as table legs. It works by rotating the subject while a cutting or smoothing tool is applied, evenly removing material around its circumference.
*[[Wikipedia:Clip show|Clip shows]], weddings, new babies, and characters getting killed off are staples of anniversary episodes and are generally considered signs of a TV show [[Wikipedia:Jumping the shark|jumping the shark]]. Such episodes also reprise characters and themes from the show as a whole (this issue features a great number of minor characters from previous issues). In the '60s, some shows, such as ''[[IMDb:tt0055662|The Beverly Hillbillies]]'', were thought to have jumped the shark when they made the switch from black and white to color.
*The "Sweet Someteen" birthday is a play on [[Wikipedia:Sweet sixteen (birthday)|sweet sixteen]].
*[[Wikipedia:Shareware|Shareware]] is generally software that an individual creates and grants distribution rights to for free (accompanied by a request for payment), with the intention that recipients will like it and share it with other people, increasing its visibility and potential profitability.
*The 3 "X's" on the beer barrel surrounded by the Scots are marks that once signified the thoroughness of distillation of [[Wikipedia:moonshine|moonshine]], but now have come to be synonymous with any type of alcohol.

===Remarks===
*This cartoon uses a higher [[Wikipedia:Frame rate|frame rate]] than any of the other ones before due to the 3-D sequence; this makes Strong Bad's makeout sequence and a few minor effects such as So-And-So's spinning eyes seem a little smoother than normal.
*If The Ugly One's dad's name is Manolios Ugly One, then "Ugly One" is actually her surname; this calls to mind So and So's step-mom being named [[Mrs. So-and-so-erson]].
*This toon has more characters in it than any other toon to date.
*The music at the party is a dance mix version of the TGS main theme song.
*Even though it says in "24 great smelling colors", there are 43 colors.
*Strong Bad drew the "It's Over!" page on the back of the making-out page (you can see it reversed through the page, which is crumpled).
*This is the first time we've actually seen Strong Bad kiss something.
*When Strong Bad places the paper of himself greeting The Ugly One over the ARROWED II page, you can faintly see the ARROWED page beneath it.
*This toon, the 10th issue special, was released on October 10, or 10/10.
*So And So's teeth are only pink in her introductory shot.
*This is the first Teen Girl Squad issue to take us outside the paper and into the regular Homestar Runner universe (not counting the [[Wikipedia:frame story|frame story]] in the email [[comic]]).
*The speech balloons for the Mighty Warrior's first phrase, the Coach's phrase over the cellphone and "SO GOOD!" are opaque; the lines on the paper aren't visible inside them.
*When Strong Bad says "It's over", it sounds like the making-out page is still in his mouth. However, "It's over" is written on the back of the same piece of paper.

===Goofs===
*"Vicious" is misspelled as "viscious" in So and So's description.
*When Manolios says "give it up," his speech bubble says "give up."
*Near the end, in the "real life" scene, we see the "ARROWED II" paper on the desk. However, it is missing the "II."
*In the Easter Egg, when Manolios Ugly One is waving his arms around, a gap opens and closes repeatedly in his beard.

[[Image:Babydaddy.PNG|100px|thumb|Oops.]]

===Glitches===
*In the rotational scenes, Cheerleader's ''baby daddy'' floats off of her dress. This is probably because of a shortcut taken which involves decorations such as eyes rotating around spherical objects, such as heads. Masks are then added to cause the eyes to disappear when they leave the head area. Apparently they forgot to add this mask to Cheerleader's dress.

===Inside References===
* "ARROWED II!" is a reference to "ARROWED!" on [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]].
* "[[Minor_Teen_Girl_Squad_Characters#Brett_Bretterson|Brett Bretterson]]" is So and So's imaginary boyfriend in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]].
* The three scotsmen saying, "ACHGH! ACHGH! ACHGH!" is a reference to [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 1]], where three of the girls say "word" and "a'ight" in the same fashion, and a similar occurence in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5|Issue 5]], with George Washington, Abe Lincoln, and Henry Rollins all saying "woot" in sequence.

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Nick at Nite|Nick at Nite]] (misspelled as "Night" in the toon) is a programming block of [[Wikipedia:Nickelodeon (TV Channel)|Nickelodeon]] that runs "classic" TV like ''[[Wikipedia:Cheers|Cheers]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:The Cosby Show|The Cosby Show]]'', while [[Wikipedia:WB Television Network|The WB]] is a network historically aimed at teens, with shows such as ''[[Wikipedia:Dawson's Creek|Dawson's Creek]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Gilmore Girls|Gilmore Girls]]''.
*[[Wikipedia:Bowser|Bowser]] and [[Wikipedia:Diddy Kong|Diddy Kong]] are [[Wikipedia:Nintendo|Nintendo]] characters. Bowser is the king of [[Wikipedia:Koopa|Koopas]], which is why a Koopa shell hit So And So.
*Tompkins is playing the original 1989 [[Wikipedia:Game Boy|Game Boy]] model. However, Bowser never appeared in a traditional game for this version of the Game Boy.
*The grinding noise Strong Bad uses when the warrior "lathe"s Whats Her Face is strikingly similar to the noise made by electric can openers, which spin the can slowly in a similar fashion.
*"ARROWED II! Electric..." is a reference to the movie [[Wikipedia:Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo|''Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo'']]. It has become frequently referenced as an example of facetious follow-ups to popular films.
*The "spinner" gag refers to glitches in physics simulation used in CGI animation, such as when certain objects fail to stop moving. Examples can be seen in the DVD special features of the computer-animated film ''[[IMDb:tt0198781|Monsters, Inc.]]''
*Henry Rollins is coloured bright red when he is shown socializing at the party. This is a reference to the make-up he wore in the video for ''[[Wikipedia:The Rollins Band|The Rollins Band]]'' song called "Liar."
*The hair on the "Olympic Man" seems similar to Phil's on the webtoon "Bonus Stage".

== DVD Version ==
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
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== External Links ==
*[[HR:tgs10.html|watch "Teen Girl Squad Issue 10"]]
*[[HR:tgs10.swf|view the Flash file for "Teen Girl Squad Issue 10"]]
*[[Forum:5318|forum thread re: "Teen Girl Squad Issue 10"]]

{{Teen Girl Squad}}
[[Category:Teen Girl Squad]]

Fall Float Parade

2005-11-22T07:46:53Z

Meneth: /* Easter Eggs */

[[Image:Fall Float Parade.PNG|thumb|Coach Z, you jerk!]]
Coach Z and Marzipan host a parade!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, [[Homsar]], {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, [[The Hornblower]], [[The Knight]], {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}

'''Places:''' [[The Field]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], Strong Bad's Laundry Room

'''Date:''' November 21, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 3:28

'''Page Title:''' Reign On, Parade! Reign On!

== Transcript ==
''{A leaf appears with the words "The 4Tst Annual Fall Float Parade".}''

'''ANNOUNCER:''' We now return to the firty-tirst annual fall float parade.

''{Cut to Coach Z and Marzipan wearing scarves and ear muffs. Marzipan is holding a mug of hot chocolate with marshmallows, and is clearly mad at Coach Z.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Ok then, welcome back. First please allow me to apologize to my co-host, here, for any innapprapriate comments I may have made while we was at commercial.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{nearly under her breath}'' That's two strikes Coach Z.

'''COACH Z:''' Yes, yes, what fun!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{suddenly no longer angry}'' So, next up is good old Bubs.

'''COACH Z:''' Yes, good old my favorite type of guy who I'm just all the time hangin' around and doin' stuff with, Bubs!

''{Cut to Bubs on a giant float with the words "Coach Z, you jerk" written on it. There is a banner hanging on the float that reads, "Happy Thanksgiving!".}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{through a megaphone}'' Coach Z, you jerk!

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{surprised}'' Oh.

'''BUBS:''' Coach Z, you jerk!

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, I see then...

'''BUBS:''' Coach Z —

'''COACH Z:''' That's very —

'''BUBS:''' ''{with more emphasis than before}'' — you jerk!

'''COACH Z:''' — overt.

''{Cut to a close-up of a giant balloon in the likeness of Pom Pom.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, now here's somethin' that doesn't appear to be makin' fun of me, it's the Pam Pam b'lloon!

'''MARZIPAN:''' That's "Pom Pom balloon" for those of you who don't speak Coach Z. Always a hit with the ladies, that Pom Pom.

''{Cut to a wide-shot with the Pom Pom balloon still visible. A pair of fez-wearing Homsars are coming in behind the balloon driving miniature red cars.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' And never a hit with anyone, it's Homsar! Oh, and there's another Homsar.

'''HOMSARS:''' ''{both of them in usison}'' Let's sing a song of tinfoil!

''{A new float enters the frame behind the two Homsars. This float has a big pile of sweatshirts in the center, a giant shooting star on the front, and a bee suspended by a giant spring on the back. "SWE ATSHIRTS" is printed on the base of the float. Homestar Runner is buried in the pile of sweatshirts with only his head visible.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, now this is just adorable, Homestar Runner's sweatshirt float.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{referring to the noticable space in the float's wording}'' It looks more like a "swee-atshirt" float to me.

'''COACH Z:''' You say tomater, I say tomatamorts.

''{Cut to a close-up of Homestar buried in the pile of sweatshirts.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Marzipan, help! I woke up in this pile of swee-atshirts and I don't know how to stop it! I'm supposed to be watching Bubs concession stand while he's in some ridiculous parade, ''{looking down}'' and I'm pretty sure a rat just bit my knee.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh, that's great sweetie. Say hi to that bee for me.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{annoyed}'' Hi, bee.

''{Cut back to the wide shot. Strong Mad walks into the frame carrying Bubs' Concession Stand, which has clearly been ripped out of the ground recently, as there are bits of sod still hanging from the bottom.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Well, it looks like Bubs has come to his senses and entered a proper float in the parade. 'Atta boy, Bubs!

'''MARZIPAN:''' I'm pretty sure that's just Strong Mad absconding with Bubs' Consession Stand.

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, serves him right then.

''{Cut back to Coach Z and Marzipan.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, and here comes one of my favorites: the KOTHS Junior Varsity Marching Band!

''{Cut back to the parade. The band enters, comprised of The King of Town waving The Poopsmith's shovel like a drum major's mace, The Poopsmith playing cymbals, The Hornblower blowing his horn, and the Knight playing a bass drum. The band comes to a halt. Cut to a close up of The King of Town.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Break it down for me, fellas!

''{Cut to a wide shot of the band again. They face the camera and resume playing.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Oh, yeah! I'm feeling this! ''{begins rapping}'' One two, one two, keep it ___ ! Listen to me cause Coach Z's, he's got it goin' on!

''{Cut to a close-up of Coach Z as he continues rapping.}''

'''COACH Z:''' I'm a pretty nice guy with fairly good teeth! C'mon, watch me —

'''MARZIPAN:''' No more free-styling. It's really annoying.

''{Cut back to the parade route. A new float enters. Strong Bad is on the float standing between two Snowmen and beating them with a nunchaku. The base of the float, which appears to be a matress, reads: "Celebrating 04 Glorious Seconds of Nunchucking Snowmen." The "04" is a digital sign that counts up as the scene continues.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Ah, and here's Strong Bad's annual not-even-remotely-fall-related float.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Is it just me, or does one of those snowmen look suspiciously like Strong Sad?

'''COACH Z:''' Nah, Strong Sad's yellow.

''{Cut to a close-up of Strong Bad and the snowman on the left, who is in fact Strong Sad. He spits out the carrot that had been in his mouth.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Ptooey! Strong Bad, I thought you said our float was going to be celebrating our nation's covered bridges.

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, I said our float was going to be sticking-you-in-a-fake-snowman-and-beating-you-senseless-with-nunchucks... covered bridges.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, how on earth did I misunderstand all that?

'''STRONG BAD:''' I don't know man. You hear the words "covered bridges" and you just go into a trance.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, covered bridges.

''{Strong Sad goes into a trance, but snaps out of it when Strong Bad resumes beating him with the nunchaku.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' And, as always, bringing up the rear...

''{As Strong Bad continues beating the snowmen, a looming shadow crawls across the scene.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' It's the Marshie balloon!

''{Cut to a close-up of a giant balloon in the shape of [[Marshie]].}''

'''COACH Z:''' Man, that thing has got to frighten some children!

'''MARZIPAN:''' Is anyone guiding that balloon?

''{The camera pans down and The Cheat can be seen hanging from one of the balloon ropes, clearly not in control of the balloon.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Run for your lives!

''{The Marshie balloon collides with the wooden platform where Coach Z and Marzipan are standing.}''

'''COACH Z:''' Argh! I regret everything!

''{The television signal is apparently lost when the platform collapses, as the picture cuts to a few seconds of static. The picture quickly returns, but not to the parade. Instead, we get a technical difficulty screen with a turkey pulling a plug. The caption at the top reads "Pardon our problems..." and "The End" appears at the bottom.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click the top left question mark at the end to see what happened to Bubs' Concession Stand.
:''{Strong Mad and Strong Bad are in what appears to be the Computer Room, but there's a washing machine in place of Strong Bad's desk. Strong Mad is still holding the concession stand.}''
:'''STRONG MAD:''' CAN I KEEP IT?
:'''STRONG BAD:''' No, you can't keep it. Now go put that thing back.
:'''STRONG MAD:''' IT FOLLOWED ME HOME!!!
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, yeah. ''That's'' not true.

*Click the top plug outlet at the end to see an additional scene with Homestar Runner.
:''{Homestar is standing in what seems to be the Field.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Homestar Runner, you have truly outdone yourself!
:''{Pan out to reveal Homestar in a box labeled "blue face man's store" over the removed Bubs' Concession Stand's foundation.}''
:'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Old Mr. Bubs will never know the difference!

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
* KOTHS stands for "King of Town High School". Most American high schools have marching bands.

===Trivia===
* When this toon was first advertised on the site, you could not view either version. After a few minutes, the Flash file was released. The regular version was released a little while later.

===Remarks===
* The two Homsars is another instance of [[Twin characters|twin characters]].
* The site of Bubs' Concession Stand is shown in this toon without a basement, contradicting [[geddup noise]].
* The foliage in the background of the parade has changed to fall colors, but the foliage is still green behind Homestar Runner as he stands on the site of Bubs' Concession Stand.
* This toon features all 12 main characters.

===Inside References===
*The "pardon our problems" screen is in the same format as the "technical difficulties" screen from [[pizzaz]].
*The [[Wikipedia:Nunchaku|nunchaku]] Strong Bad uses is from [[Dangeresque (character)|Dangeresque's]] "nunchuck-gun" in [[dangeresque 3]].
*This is another appearance of [[Sticky Notes|sticky notes]].
* Coach Z wears a fez similar to those of the two Homsars in his role as [[Renaldo]] in the [[Dangeresque]] series.
*The wagon supporting Strong Bad's float is the [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]] minus the pancakes.
*When the KOTHS band first appears, it plays the theme song from [[The King of Town DVD]].

===Real-World References===
*The theme of a "Fall Float Parade" is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade|Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade]], a large parade taking place in New York on Thanksgiving each year.
**The theme is also commonly used in individual town parades, usually taking place the weekend before the Macy's Day Parade.
*The fez-wearing Homsars in the little cars are modeled after the [[Wikipedia:Shriners|Shriners]], who also appear often in the Macy's Parade.
*"You say tomato, I say tomatamorts" is a reference to [[Wikipedia:George Gershwin|George]] and [[Wikipedia:Ira Gershwin|Ira Gershwin]]'s 1937 hit song ''Let's Call the Whole Thing Off.''

==External Links==
*[[HR:floatparade.html|Watch "Fall Float Parade"]]
*[[HR:fallparade.swf|View the Flash file for "Fall Float Parade"]]
*[[Forum:5999|Forum thread re: Fall Float Parade]]

[[Category:Holiday Toons]]

dragon

2005-11-21T15:37:21Z

Meneth: /* Transcript */ more of the same

[[Image:sbemail58picture2a.PNG|thumb|The beginning of a legend]]

'''Strong Bad Email #58'''

Kaizer wants to know if Strong Bad can draw a dragon.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Trogdor}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Homsar}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Strong Sad}}'''

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]]

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' January 13, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 3:18

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Here I go once again with the email! Every week I hope that it's from a female! ''{opens email, stops singing}'' Oh man! Not from a female.

''{reading email}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Hey Strong Bad, 
 
Can you draw a dragon? I want to see 
your skills of an artist. 
 
well, g2g, 
kaizer 
CA</blockquote>

''{after "artist," Strong Bad mumbles, "um, okay."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' A dragon? That's easy! Feel free to follow along with my simple step-by-step instructions. I make drawing FUN!!

''{Cut to a close-up of a piece of paper on a table. You can see only Strong Bad's right boxing glove, and he is holding a pencil. Simple music starts playing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' To begin, draw an S ''{draws an S on the paper.}'' for snake. Or dragon. Er, whatever. Next, we'll draw a more different S. ''{draws another S connected to the other}'' For the head, put a top mark on a long V. ''{draws a triangle on top of the S}'' Then you add some legs... ''{draws two beefy legs}'' draw on a couple of arms... and ''{draws two beefy arms, eyes, spikes, teeth and angry eyebrows.}'' Whoa. Wait a minute. ''{music stops with a record scratch}'' I think I need to start over. Thing doesn't look natural. ''{draws a speech bubble coming from the dragon that says 'The S is for sucks,' and pulls up a clean sheet of paper.}'' Okay, so starting again, the same way. S, more different S. ''{Music starts again}'' Close it up real good at the top for his head ''{makes an attached, open-mouth head}'', and then, using consummate V's, give him teeth, spinities, and angry eyebrows. ''{draws all of what he mentioned, plus stick legs.}'' Then, you can add smoke or fire ''{draws both coming from the dragon's mouth}'', or maybe some wings, you know, if he's a...wing-a-ling dragon. ''{Draws two wings on the dragon's back.}'' Let's put one of those beefy arms back on for good measure. ''{draws a single beefy arm on the back of the dragon}'' That looks really good. Comin' out of the back of his neck, there. Now he needs a name. How about ''Trogdor the Burninator''. ''{writes it below the dragon}'' Oh yeah. Check out all his majesty. ''{draws rays of majesty coming from the dragon}''

''{Cut to Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So there's my dragon, Kaizer. {music stops} Let's ''{stops typing}'' see ''{typing}'' how the other students are doing.

''{Cut to scene in a big room with several tables. Strong Bad approaches Coach Z, who is drawing with chalk on a small slate.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right! What do you got for me, Coach Z?

'''COACH Z:''' Take a look there! ''{zoom in a squiggly drawing that resembles a snake}'' I think she's lookin' pretty good!

'''STRONG BAD:''' I said consummate V's! CONSUMMATE!!! Geez. ''{walking away}'' Guy wouldn't know majesty if it came up and bit him in the face.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{offscreen}'' That happened once!

''{Cut to Strong Mad. He is using an X-Acto Knife to carve the word 'DAGRON' into the table.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Mad. You just, keep doing your thing, man.

''{Cut to Strong Sad, who has drawn a masterpiece.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh crap! I didn't know ''you'' were doing one.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, sure. I think I've improved on your methods a bit, too. ''{zoom in on his picture}'' I employed some chiaroscuro shading, and...

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll improve on your methods!!

''{Strong Bad takes out his [[BMW Lighter]] and sets Strong Sad's picture aflame. It quickly disintegrates with hardly a trace.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' What? That's not an improvement!

'''STRONG BAD:''' WA HA HA HA!! Trogdor strikes again!

''{Cut to black and white pencil-drawn scene of Trogdor. Rock music is playing in the background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{screaming}'' TROGDOR!!! TROGDOR!!! ''{singing}'' Trogdor was a man! I mean, he was a dragon-man! Or, maybe he was just a dragon. Um... But he was still TROGDOR!!!! TROGDOR!!!! Burninating the countryside! Burninating the peasants! Burninating all the people! In their thatched roof COTTAGES!!! THATCHED ROOF COTTAGES!!

''{Cut to Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And the Trogdor comes in the NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on the "R" in the "DAGRON" Strong Mad is carving to see Homsar's attempt at drawing a dragon.
:''{Strong Bad walks up to Homsar, who has written "TASTER'S CHOICE" on a piece of paper and taped it to the table}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Get out of my house! ''{walks away}''
:'''HOMSAR:''' ''{Sadly}'' I do what I'm told...

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Chiaroscuro|Chiaroscuro]] is a [http://www2.evansville.edu/studiochalkboard/s-chiaro.html method] for creating the illusion of a three-dimensional solid form in a two-dimensional piece of artwork through the use of contrasting areas of light and dark. Literally "lightdark" in Italian.

===Trivia===
*[[The Brothers Chaps]] say this email took the longest to make in an interview with Kevin Scott.
*Strong Bad writes "TROGDOR the BURNiNATOR" using a [[Lowercase i's|lowercase "i"]] because the [[Fonts|font]] that The Brothers Chaps used doesn't have a capital "I."

===Goofs===
*As noted in the DVD commentary ''(see below)'', Coach Z's drawing faces a different direction in the close-up from the previous scene.
**This same situation also applies to Strong Sad's drawing.
*When Strong Bad is drawing Trogdor's majesty, for a moment we can see that Strong Bad's arm is floating, unattached to anything.
*When Strong Bad types "Let's see how the others are doing", he leaves out the word "see."

===Inside References===
*"And the Trogdor comes in the NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHHHHHHHHT!!!!!!!" is a reference to the email [[guitar]], where Strong Bad says "dragon" instead of "Trogdor".
*Homsar having a roll of masking tape next to him is a reference to the [[Strong Sad's Lament|Strong Sad Blog]], where he is "holding" a roll of tape in the background of his e-vite.
*The X-Acto Knife that [[Strong Mad]] uses is the same one that [[Strong Bad]] uses in the email [[flag day]].

===Real-World References===
*Homsar's "drawing" says [[Wikipedia:Taster's Choice|Taster's Choice]], a popular coffee from Nescafe.
*"Kaiser" is the ultimate dragon form of the hero in the [[Wikipedia:Breath of Fire|Breath of Fire]] series of video games. Since The Brothers Chaps have stated that all of the emails except [[mile]] are authentic, this is either a coincidence, or the email writer was a fan of this series.

== DVD Version ==
*The Homsar Easter egg is automatically enabled, no selecting required.
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MIKE:''' This is one of the least popular emails we've ever done.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Everybody hates it.

'''MIKE:''' Uh, this one took a really long time, and I remember, not, like—

'''MATT:''' Yeah, you wanted to abandon it. Like, we were three-quarters of the way done—

'''MIKE:''' This is one—

'''MATT:''' —and you wanted to start over.

'''MIKE:''' It was... we just—it's very long, and I felt—I dunno. When you're in the middle of it, sometimes it's hard to tell.

'''MATT:''' I wonder, though, if we had just, let's say we cut out the whole Trogdor metal thing at the end, if people would, like, if it's Trogdor, just this dr—bad drawing of a dragon or if it's the metal and the, like, drawings

'''MIKE:''' I think it's th—mostly the metal.

'''MATT:''' That's what I'm sayin'.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' So it'd be funny if we hadn't done that at the end or if we'd made it an Easter egg even, so less people saw it.

'''MIKE:''' So this is, uh, you know, we learned to draw the Ed Emberley way.

'''MATT:''' And later the Marvel Comics way.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' That's true. Um...

'''MATT:''' That thing is unholy. ''{Mike starts laughing again}'' True. It's horrible. We always find ourselves humming this song that's in the background.

'''MIKE:''' Doo doo doot doot, see I'm doing it again.

'''MATT:''' Uh, what is a tincidence[1]! What is a tincidence, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' Um... uh so yeah, the- this email, we're, it went up late Monday at probably, i dunno, 4 or 5 o'clock on Monday we were pretty much done with the whole email and Matt started singing the Trogdor song in this squealy—

'''MATT:''' ''{in squealy voice}'' Trogdor!

'''MIKE:''' —in the squealy voice and so then we sort of knew we had to make the Trogdor metal song and then when we made the Trogdor metal song we had to make all the...fancy-shaded Tro—uh, Trogdor drawings for the video.

'''MATT:''' And then didn't Trogdor, the name Trogdor the Burn—I think it was just, like, we decided he had to name him and just, like, it just came out, like, there was no deciding.

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously, overlapping}'' Yeah, you just came up with it. There was no, like thought—yeah, right.

'''MATT:''' The drawing of Trogdor took a while. Took some...

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. And if you watch there, his thing flips.

'''MATT:''' What happened?

'''MIKE:''' Coach Z's drawing—well there, his head's on the left, but in the closeup the head's on the right.

'''MATT:''' Ohhhh.

'''MIKE:''' I mean, Coach Z's left, and Coach Z's right.

'''MATT:''' Right. Dagron.

'''MIKE:''' Dagron. He's misspelled the word "dragon." There's everybody's favorite. He's correctly spelled the words "Taster's Choice."

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs a little, then a pause}'' That's a good drawing, Mike. We still have those.

'''MIKE:''' Yep.

'''MATT:''' There's the BMW—the, the ever-present BMW lighter. Didn't we say we had some, some people we met that said they tried really hard to find one.

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah.

'''MATT:''' And they don't exist in real life, so we apologize.

'''MIKE:''' So... I don't know how these drawings are going to look on your TV screen.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' All made big like this. They might look kind of pixelly and gross, but...

'''MATT:''' I'm, uh, I don't regret it, though, if they look pixelly and gross.

'''MIKE:''' No, we did that on purpose!

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs a little}'' Yes.

'''MIKE:''' You can see in the smoke of the flaming peasant's head, it just kind of—there's a straight line at the top of the smoke. It just kind of stops and that's from the edge of the page. It's just—

'''MATT:''' Oh really?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. You can't see it—yeah, you can see just how it stops

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Oh there we go, I see.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' And so, of course, later this all became Peasant's Quest fodder.

=== Fun Facts ===
*Ed Emberley is the author of several "how to draw" books for children. Emberley's methods consisted of drawing letters of the alphabet to simplify things.
*"How to Draw the Marvel Comics Way" is one of a series of many, many books detailing how you too can learn to draw in the style of your favorite comic artists.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail58.html|watch "dragon"]]
*[[HR:sbemail58.swf|view the Flash file for "dragon"]]
*[http://blau.homeunix.net/pub/strongbad/trogdor.mp3 download the song (MP3 format)]
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

dragon

2005-11-21T15:36:03Z

Meneth: /* Transcript */ italics fix

[[Image:sbemail58picture2a.PNG|thumb|The beginning of a legend]]

'''Strong Bad Email #58'''

Kaizer wants to know if Strong Bad can draw a dragon.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Trogdor}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Homsar}} (Easter egg), {{Film|Strong Sad}}'''

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]]

'''Computer:''' [[Compy 386]]

'''Date:''' January 13, 2003

'''Running Time:''' 3:18

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Here I go once again with the email! Every week I hope that it's from a female! ''{opens email, stops singing}'' Oh man! Not from a female.

''{reading email}''

<blockquote class="compy email">Hey Strong Bad, 
 
Can you draw a dragon? I want to see 
your skills of an artist. 
 
well, g2g, 
kaizer 
CA</blockquote>

''{after "artist," Strong Bad mumbles, "um, okay."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' A dragon? That's easy! Feel free to follow along with my simple step-by-step instructions. I make drawing FUN!!

''{Cut to a close-up of a piece of paper on a table. You can see only Strong Bad's right boxing glove, and he is holding a pencil. Simple music starts playing.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' To begin, draw an S ''{draws an S on the paper.}'' for snake. Or dragon. Er, whatever. Next, we'll draw a more different S. ''{draws another S connected to the other}'' For the head, put a top mark on a long V. ''{draws a triangle on top of the S}'' Then you add some legs... ''{draws two beefy legs}'' draw on a couple of arms... and ''{draws two beefy arms, eyes, spikes, teeth and angry eyebrows.}'' Whoa. Wait a minute. {music stops with a record scratch} I think I need to start over. Thing doesn't look natural. ''{draws a speech bubble coming from the dragon that says 'The S is for sucks,' and pulls up a clean sheet of paper.}'' Okay, so starting again, the same way. S, more different S. ''{Music starts again}'' Close it up real good at the top for his head ''{makes an attached, open-mouth head}'', and then, using consummate V's, give him teeth, spinities, and angry eyebrows. ''{draws all of what he mentioned, plus stick legs.}'' Then, you can add smoke or fire ''{draws both coming from the dragon's mouth}'', or maybe some wings, you know, if he's a...wing-a-ling dragon. ''{Draws two wings on the dragon's back.}'' Let's put one of those beefy arms back on for good measure. ''{draws a single beefy arm on the back of the dragon}'' That looks really good. Comin' out of the back of his neck, there. Now he needs a name. How about ''Trogdor the Burninator''. ''{writes it below the dragon}'' Oh yeah. Check out all his majesty. ''{draws rays of majesty coming from the dragon}''

''{Cut to Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' So there's my dragon, Kaizer. {music stops} Let's ''{stops typing}'' see ''{typing}'' how the other students are doing.

''{Cut to scene in a big room with several tables. Strong Bad approaches Coach Z, who is drawing with chalk on a small slate.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' All right! What do you got for me, Coach Z?

'''COACH Z:''' Take a look there! ''{zoom in a squiggly drawing that resembles a snake}'' I think she's lookin' pretty good!

'''STRONG BAD:''' I said consummate V's! CONSUMMATE!!! Geez. ''{walking away}'' Guy wouldn't know majesty if it came up and bit him in the face.

'''COACH Z:''' ''{offscreen}'' That happened once!

''{Cut to Strong Mad. He is using an X-Acto Knife to carve the word 'DAGRON' into the table.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Strong Mad. You just, keep doing your thing, man.

''{Cut to Strong Sad, who has drawn a masterpiece.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh crap! I didn't know ''you'' were doing one.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, sure. I think I've improved on your methods a bit, too. ''{zoom in on his picture}'' I employed some chiaroscuro shading, and...

'''STRONG BAD:''' I'll improve on your methods!!

''{Strong Bad takes out his [[BMW Lighter]] and sets Strong Sad's picture aflame. It quickly disintegrates with hardly a trace.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' What? That's not an improvement!

'''STRONG BAD:''' WA HA HA HA!! Trogdor strikes again!

''{Cut to black and white pencil-drawn scene of Trogdor. Rock music is playing in the background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{screaming}'' TROGDOR!!! TROGDOR!!! ''{singing}'' Trogdor was a man! I mean, he was a dragon-man! Or, maybe he was just a dragon. Um... But he was still TROGDOR!!!! TROGDOR!!!! Burninating the countryside! Burninating the peasants! Burninating all the people! In their thatched roof COTTAGES!!! THATCHED ROOF COTTAGES!!

''{Cut to Compy 386.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' And the Trogdor comes in the NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!

''{[[The Paper]] comes down.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Click on the "R" in the "DAGRON" Strong Mad is carving to see Homsar's attempt at drawing a dragon.
:''{Strong Bad walks up to Homsar, who has written "TASTER'S CHOICE" on a piece of paper and taped it to the table}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Get out of my house! ''{walks away}''
:'''HOMSAR:''' ''{Sadly}'' I do what I'm told...

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Chiaroscuro|Chiaroscuro]] is a [http://www2.evansville.edu/studiochalkboard/s-chiaro.html method] for creating the illusion of a three-dimensional solid form in a two-dimensional piece of artwork through the use of contrasting areas of light and dark. Literally "lightdark" in Italian.

===Trivia===
*[[The Brothers Chaps]] say this email took the longest to make in an interview with Kevin Scott.
*Strong Bad writes "TROGDOR the BURNiNATOR" using a [[Lowercase i's|lowercase "i"]] because the [[Fonts|font]] that The Brothers Chaps used doesn't have a capital "I."

===Goofs===
*As noted in the DVD commentary ''(see below)'', Coach Z's drawing faces a different direction in the close-up from the previous scene.
**This same situation also applies to Strong Sad's drawing.
*When Strong Bad is drawing Trogdor's majesty, for a moment we can see that Strong Bad's arm is floating, unattached to anything.
*When Strong Bad types "Let's see how the others are doing", he leaves out the word "see."

===Inside References===
*"And the Trogdor comes in the NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHHHHHHHHT!!!!!!!" is a reference to the email [[guitar]], where Strong Bad says "dragon" instead of "Trogdor".
*Homsar having a roll of masking tape next to him is a reference to the [[Strong Sad's Lament|Strong Sad Blog]], where he is "holding" a roll of tape in the background of his e-vite.
*The X-Acto Knife that [[Strong Mad]] uses is the same one that [[Strong Bad]] uses in the email [[flag day]].

===Real-World References===
*Homsar's "drawing" says [[Wikipedia:Taster's Choice|Taster's Choice]], a popular coffee from Nescafe.
*"Kaiser" is the ultimate dragon form of the hero in the [[Wikipedia:Breath of Fire|Breath of Fire]] series of video games. Since The Brothers Chaps have stated that all of the emails except [[mile]] are authentic, this is either a coincidence, or the email writer was a fan of this series.

== DVD Version ==
*The Homsar Easter egg is automatically enabled, no selecting required.
*The DVD version features hidden creators' commentary. To access it, switch your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MIKE:''' This is one of the least popular emails we've ever done.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. Everybody hates it.

'''MIKE:''' Uh, this one took a really long time, and I remember, not, like—

'''MATT:''' Yeah, you wanted to abandon it. Like, we were three-quarters of the way done—

'''MIKE:''' This is one—

'''MATT:''' —and you wanted to start over.

'''MIKE:''' It was... we just—it's very long, and I felt—I dunno. When you're in the middle of it, sometimes it's hard to tell.

'''MATT:''' I wonder, though, if we had just, let's say we cut out the whole Trogdor metal thing at the end, if people would, like, if it's Trogdor, just this dr—bad drawing of a dragon or if it's the metal and the, like, drawings

'''MIKE:''' I think it's th—mostly the metal.

'''MATT:''' That's what I'm sayin'.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' So it'd be funny if we hadn't done that at the end or if we'd made it an Easter egg even, so less people saw it.

'''MIKE:''' So this is, uh, you know, we learned to draw the Ed Emberley way.

'''MATT:''' And later the Marvel Comics way.

'''MIKE:''' ''{laughs}'' That's true. Um...

'''MATT:''' That thing is unholy. ''{Mike starts laughing again}'' True. It's horrible. We always find ourselves humming this song that's in the background.

'''MIKE:''' Doo doo doot doot, see I'm doing it again.

'''MATT:''' Uh, what is a tincidence[1]! What is a tincidence, Mike?

'''MIKE:''' Um... uh so yeah, the- this email, we're, it went up late Monday at probably, i dunno, 4 or 5 o'clock on Monday we were pretty much done with the whole email and Matt started singing the Trogdor song in this squealy—

'''MATT:''' ''{in squealy voice}'' Trogdor!

'''MIKE:''' —in the squealy voice and so then we sort of knew we had to make the Trogdor metal song and then when we made the Trogdor metal song we had to make all the...fancy-shaded Tro—uh, Trogdor drawings for the video.

'''MATT:''' And then didn't Trogdor, the name Trogdor the Burn—I think it was just, like, we decided he had to name him and just, like, it just came out, like, there was no deciding.

'''MIKE:''' ''{simultaneously, overlapping}'' Yeah, you just came up with it. There was no, like thought—yeah, right.

'''MATT:''' The drawing of Trogdor took a while. Took some...

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. And if you watch there, his thing flips.

'''MATT:''' What happened?

'''MIKE:''' Coach Z's drawing—well there, his head's on the left, but in the closeup the head's on the right.

'''MATT:''' Ohhhh.

'''MIKE:''' I mean, Coach Z's left, and Coach Z's right.

'''MATT:''' Right. Dagron.

'''MIKE:''' Dagron. He's misspelled the word "dragon." There's everybody's favorite. He's correctly spelled the words "Taster's Choice."

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs a little, then a pause}'' That's a good drawing, Mike. We still have those.

'''MIKE:''' Yep.

'''MATT:''' There's the BMW—the, the ever-present BMW lighter. Didn't we say we had some, some people we met that said they tried really hard to find one.

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah.

'''MATT:''' And they don't exist in real life, so we apologize.

'''MIKE:''' So... I don't know how these drawings are going to look on your TV screen.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' All made big like this. They might look kind of pixelly and gross, but...

'''MATT:''' I'm, uh, I don't regret it, though, if they look pixelly and gross.

'''MIKE:''' No, we did that on purpose!

'''MATT:''' ''{laughs a little}'' Yes.

'''MIKE:''' You can see in the smoke of the flaming peasant's head, it just kind of—there's a straight line at the top of the smoke. It just kind of stops and that's from the edge of the page. It's just—

'''MATT:''' Oh really?

'''MIKE:''' Yeah. You can't see it—yeah, you can see just how it stops

'''MATT:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Oh there we go, I see.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' And so, of course, later this all became Peasant's Quest fodder.

=== Fun Facts ===
*Ed Emberley is the author of several "how to draw" books for children. Emberley's methods consisted of drawing letters of the alphabet to simplify things.
*"How to Draw the Marvel Comics Way" is one of a series of many, many books detailing how you too can learn to draw in the style of your favorite comic artists.

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail58.html|watch "dragon"]]
*[[HR:sbemail58.swf|view the Flash file for "dragon"]]
*[http://blau.homeunix.net/pub/strongbad/trogdor.mp3 download the song (MP3 format)]
{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category: Emails With DVD Commentary]]

The Denzel

2005-10-27T17:56:23Z

Meneth: removed extra Strong Bad links

[[Image:Thedenzel.png|thumb|How would The Cheat sleep without him?]]

'''The Denzel''' is a "security item" that [[The Cheat]] sleeps with. According to [[Strong Bad]], The Denzel is a "grodalated" old sponge covered in bandages. The Cheat has needed The Denzel ever since watching a shock-you-mentary about [[Wikipedia:Gingivitis|Gingivitis]] which scared him into insomnia. He likes to curl up with The Denzel and a nice glass of [[Suudsu]] while hearing a bedtime story from Strong Bad. "The Denzel" also accompanies him while he is listening to his lullaby, which features Strong Bad on vocals and [[Strong Mad]] on the chain saw. It is not known if Strong Bad's so-called "bug bombs" affect "The Denzel" in any way.

==Complete Filmography==
*'''Debut''': [[bedtime story]]

[[Category:PseudoCharacters]]

modeling

2005-10-24T22:24:48Z

Meneth: /* Trivia */ linked Place

[[Image:sbemail132.PNG|thumb|He'll "pencil you in"]]

'''Strong Bad Email #132'''

Strong Bad is encouraged to become a model.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[King of Town's Castle]], [[The Field]]

{{Comp|Lappy 486}}

'''Date:''' June 27, 2005

'''Running time:''' 3:09

==Transcript==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{singing}'' Can you handle my style? No, you can't handle my styyyyyle. Email! ''{pulls up the email, begins reading}''

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div>subject: modeling</div>
dear STRONG BAD!!!!!! 
i think you're a pretty good looking guy. Have you ever 
considered doing some modeling? 
Yours truuly, 
Meghan, Albuquerque
</blockquote>

''{Strong Bad yells his name at the top of his lungs, and says "truuly" as "troo-OOly", "Meghan" as "Meg-han", and "Albuquerque" as "Al-bu-quay-quay"}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' dear MEGHAN!!!!!! ''{yelled and pronounced as before}'' Of course I've considered modeling. Someone as pretty good looking as me gets approached on the street all the-wait. Modeling?! Hmmmm. That's a truuly ''{pronounced as before}'' great idea! ''{clears screen}'' Why did I never think of that before? Maybe I should go get me some new threads at Styles Upon Styles and get some headshots taken. Pom Pom has a camera. Maybe I'll get him to take some pictures of me. Or better yet, maybe I'll go karate chop the King of Town and THEN get Pom Pom to take some pictures of me.

''{Music starts as Strong Bad approaches the King of Town, in front of his castle. Strong Bad karate chops the King.}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Ow!

''{Cut to Strong Bad in a makeshift modeling studio in the Field. He is sitting on a box, and wearing a blue shirt with a yellow shirt tied around his neck, like a cape. The backdrop is a white sheet with paint in various colors randomly splattered on it, taped to two wooden posts. Photography lights are seen on the left and right, and a silhouette of Pom Pom is seen in the foreground with a camera. The screen flashes as Pom Pom takes the picture, and as it fades back in, we see a closeup of Strong Bad in the same outfit, now holding a tennis racket.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ha haa! ''{The screen flashes, and now Strong Bad is lying on the ground.}'' Who, me? ''{Another flash, and now he's standing on the box, with his right hand held out in front of him, as though he's pointing at the camera}'' I'm charming! ''{Points with his left hand too. Another flash, and he's now standing with the tennis racket.}'' I'm charming! ''{Yet another flash, and the camera is panned back so that Pom Pom is visible again. Strong Bad is standing.}'' Oh, what's the time? ''{He looks at his right wrist as though looking at a watch. Another flash, and we see another close up, as Strong Bad starts out turned away from the camera, and he turns toward it, waves, and holds his chin, with afterimages following him. Another flash, and now Strong Bad is wearing a black suit with a purple shirt and glasses, holding a briefcase.}'' I'm casually late! ''{Another flash, but the screen doesn't change. Strong Bad walks toward stage right, and pauses posing. The camera flashes again, and Strong Bad is now seen in front of what seems to be a paneled wood wall, holding a telephone with only a frayed wire coming out of it.}'' Let's-a do lunch! Ha-haaa! ''{puts down the phone and picks up the tennis racket again. Another flash, and Strong Bad is lying on his stomach on the ground, holding a pencil and leaning toward the camera. We can see that the wall in the last image was actually just another screen, leaning on the posts.}'' I'll pencil you in. ''{Pretends to write something on the ground. One more flash, and now Strong Bad is in a frozen walking pose in front of a blue screen.}'' Oh, look at the time! ''{He kneels and looks at his "watch" again. Another flash, and now Strong Bad is wearing a white turtleneck and a sailor's cap, while holding a corn-cob pipe and a golf club. A map is seen in the background, in front of the false wood wall.}'' I say, lads, is that Cape Cod? ''{Uses the golf club to point at the map, and shrugs. Another flash, and the camera cuts back again. This time, Strong Bad is sitting on the box.}'' Oh, look, off the portboard stow! ''{Another flash, and he's standing with his hands on his hips.}'' We're on a collision course with sultriness! ''{He shakes his hips. One final flash.}''

''{Cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' I can't wait to get those pictures back from the lab. I can totally see some of them being used in one of those glossy fashion magazines. Y'know, the kind that cost nine bucks and are 97% ads. Like maybe in an ad for those fancy leather shoes that you're supposed to wear without ''{An ad for "Homely Boy Brand HUGE Tube Socks" featuring Strong Bad is displayed.}'' socks. WITHOUT SOCKS! ''{The image vanishes.}'' Man! Can you imagine the luxury! Ooh! Or some kinda fancy men's cologn...ac. ''{An ad for "Doctor Stankfoot's Watery Athlete's Foot Cream" featuring Strong Bad appears.}'' And I can be laying next to some skinny blonde girl looking totally disinterested. You know like, "Whatever, baby. ''{The ad disappears.}'' You can't even approach the flava... of my colognac." ''{Clears the screen.}'' No wait! The cover of some steamy romance novel! And my ripped ''{A book titled "Unattractive Detective Stories!! The Case of the Dame with the Hard-to-Look-at-Teeth" appears.}'' self would be on top of some cliff or lighthouse clutching a milkmaid in a flowy dress. ''{It vanishes.}'' And she'd be like, "No, Parson Jim, it can never be!" But I'm all like, "Look in your heart, Chezmerelda."

''{The camera cuts back to show Strong Sad standing next to the desk, holding a pile of mail.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Hey Strong Bad, I was just looking through today's mail, and guess who made the cover of ''Husky Headed Boys Back 2 School Catalog''?

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! Back-to-school already?! It's not even July! So, who's on the cover?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh, you are.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''What?!'' I ain't got no husky head!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, it's about the same size as my husky body... ''{hits his stomach twice, resulting in a dodgeball-like sound effect}'' Oh, and this check ''{holds out a check}'' from ''Husky Headed Boys Catalog'' came—

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{swiping the check}'' Whoa-ho! My husky head commands a pretty penny! This'll bring home a few months' worth of bacon! I bet your husky body's not worth a hundred and eight dollars!

'''STRONG SAD:''' No, but poachers have offered several ''thousand'' for my feet.

''{Homestar Runner walks up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey guys! Guess who made this week's cover of ''Stupid Coincidence Magazine''!

''{He holds up the magazine, which features Homestar himself. He then throws it over his shoulder and starts dancing to the same music Strong Bad posed to earlier. The camera flashes, and we see the "Husky Headed Boys" and "Stupid Coincidence Magazine" issues up close. [[The Paper]] comes down.}''

==Easter Eggs==
*At the end, click on the diamond on Strong Bad's head to see an ad for "SB Finest Colognac."

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*"Colognac" is a portmanteau word formed by combining "[[Wikipedia:Cognac (drink)|cognac]]", a distilled liquor one drinks, and "[[Wikipedia:Eau_de_Cologne|cologne]]", a fragrance one wears.

===Trivia===
*The ads and magazines read, in order:
<pre>HOMELY BOY BRAND
HUGE TUBE SOCKS

"YOU MIGHT COULD SLEEP IN ONE!"</pre> 
<pre>GOT STINKFOOT?
GET STANKFOOT!
DOCTOR
STANKFOOT'S
WATERY
ATHLETE'S
FOOT CREAM</pre> 
<pre>Unattractive
Detective Stories!!
The Case of the Dame
with the
Hard-to-Look-at-Teeth</pre>
:*''[[Stupid Coincidence Magazine]]:''
<pre>Stupid $9
Coincidence
MAGAZINE

Why Some People
Our Think Saying
Least Likely Ka-Winky-Dink
Issue Yet!! Is Funny
pg. 143</pre>
:*''[[Husky Headed Boys Back 2 School Catalog]]:''
<pre>HUSKY Headed Boys
BACK 2 SCHOOL!!
Catalog

Giant Headed
SUMMER 2005 Kids Need
Clothes
Too!!</pre> 
<pre>SB

FINEST COLOGNAC.

drink it. or wear it. we don't really give a care.</pre>

* The map that Strong Bad stands in front of while posing marks "Land," "Haggleston," "[[Place]]," and "Nautical Ocean."

===Remarks===
*We see Strong Bad's written signature in the HUGE Tube Socks ad, and it is different from his signature in the [[Yearbook Character Page]].
*Stupid Coincidence Magazine costs $9, the same price as one of those glossy fashion magazines that Strong Bad mentions.
*Homestar was considering breaking into male modeling in [[crying]].

===Goofs===
*When Strong Bad yells, "dear STRONG BAD!!!!!" and, "dear MEGHAN!!!!!", the reflection of his head appears slightly above the Lappy.
*When Homestar holds up the magazine, his image on the cover blinks (this does not happen at the end of the email).
*In the email screen when the "romance novel" comes up, you can no longer click the Lappy to see the "ripple" effect.
*Right after Strong Bad says "letsa do lunch," he holds up the tennis racket, and even though he is in a suit, the arm is bare.

===Inside References===
*Pom Pom's camera was also in the email [[part-time job]].
*"Styles Upon Styles" is a retailer previously mentioned in [[animal]].
*Strong Bad dressed up as a ship's captain in [[pizzaz]], minus the turtleneck.
**The turtleneck was from [[A Decemberween Pageant|the Decemberween pageant]] that [[Free Country, USA]] once put on.
*The screen with the wooden panels is the [[Balding Man]]'s room from [[Senorial Day]].
*"Skinny blonde girls" were first mentioned in [[theme party]].
*[[Place]] first appeared in [[different town]].
*When Strong Sad hits his "husky body" it makes the same sound as when he was pegged by kickballs in [[1 step ahead]].
*Strong Bad originally tried to sell Strong Sad's feet to poachers in [[50 emails]].
*Strong Bad uses a yellow [[Disconnected Telephone]] for one of his business shots.

===Real-world References===
*"Got stinkfoot" is a reference to the SNES game [[Wikipedia:Parodius| Parodius]], in which gaining a power-up will sometimes result in the main character saying "GOT A STINKFOOT?!" out of a megaphone.

==External Links==
*[[HR:sbemail132.html|watch "modeling"]]
*[[HR:sbemail132.swf|view the Flash file for "modeling"]]
*[[Forum:4027|forum thread re: "modeling"]]

{{Strong Bad Email}}

In Search of the Yello Dello

2005-10-21T17:21:27Z

Meneth: /* Theatrical Trailer Transcript */ fixed line breaks in green box

[[Image:searchfortheyellodello.PNG|thumb|One hot bird.]]

''"The Yello Dello is the most rare and beautiful bird in this entire cartoon."''

Homestar wants to get a gift for Marzipan, but can't decide what to get. Coach Z advises him to get something rare and exotic, so Homestar, Pom Pom, and Strong Sad head out to catch the Yello Dello.
The DVD is complete with commentary, the old version of the cartoon, and deleted scenes.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, [[Unnamed Characters#Other Characters|The Alien Guy]], [[The Mountain Goat]], [[The Yello Dello]], {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|The Announcer}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}

'''Places:''' [[The Athletic Field]], [[Coach Z's Locker Room]], [[Far Off Lands]], [[Homestar's House]]

'''Date:''' 2000

'''Commentary''': Strong Bad, Strong Sad, and Homestar Runner talk about the movie as it's being played. Hilarity ensues.

'''Deleted Scenes''': Coach Z and Homestar Runner in the shower room, Strong Mad telling Marzipan about the Yello Dello, and a pixelated challenge which is a parody of the Atari 2600 game [http://www.atariage.com/screenshot_page.html|?SoftwareLabelID=976 Barnstorming].

== Old Version Transcript ==

''{Homestar, Coach Z, and Pom Pom are on the athletic field. Pom Pom is seen kicking a basketball around in the background whilst Homestar kicks a can, depressed}''

'''CAPTION''': "One day after sports, Coach Z noticed Homestar Runner looking troubled"

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, what's the problem there, Homestar?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh man, Coach Z, I guess I just don't understand the ladies.

'''COACH Z:''' Oh jeez, I figured it was girl trouble. Step into my office.

''{Cut to the locker room}''

'''COACH Z:''' So, tell me what's the matter.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, it's Marzipan's birthday, and I don't what to get her!

''{The alien in the shower's towel falls off}''

'''COACH Z:''' Well, Homestar, I tell you. Girls are like a great sports play. ''{We now see a blackboard with a gameplay on it}'' You can't just rush in to the score zone! You kiddin' me? You'd be clobbered! You've gotta stick and move and zig and zag to get past the defenses, so youse can score! ''{Blackboard writing forms a skull and crossbones}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' But Coach, I don't understand! ''{Homestar's mouth simply stays open through the entire sentence here}''

'''COACH Z:''' Don't just get her a flower. ''{Scene showing Homestar giving Marzipan a regular flower; flower droops.}'' Get her some rare flower from the tallest mountain! ''{Scene showing Homestar at the top of a mountain with a rare flower wearing lederhosen}'' That way she knows how much she means to yahse!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks, Coach! ''{Levitates and flies away to the sound of squealing tires}''

''{Homestar is sitting on a rock next to a tree. The sun and moon rise and set several times}''

'''CAPTION:''' So he thought and thought... Until finally...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I think I has the solution! The Yello Dello!
''{Scene changes to the Yello Dello on the "Discover Network"; a David Attenborough-type host describes the bird}''

'''HOST:''' Found only in northeastern Potamia, the Yello-Dello is the most rare and beautiful bird in this entire cartoon.

''{Strong Sad, Pom Pom, and Homestar are about to set out on their journey}''

'''CAPTION''': And So Homestar, Pom Pom, and Strong Sad set out in search of the Yello Dello...

''{A map appears and red dotted lines track their route through Far Off Lands, Prance, Portugal, and Potamia}''

'''CAPTION:''' They traveled many miles...

''{The adventurers are in a game of Pitfall.}''

'''CAPTION:''' Encountered many dangers...

''{Homestar swings over the alligators}''

'''CAPTION:''' Until at last they reached their destination...

''{The Yello Dello is shown atop a mountain. The three approach the base of the mountain}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, I don't know, Homestar, that looks really dangerous.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ah, come on, guys, lets do it for Marzipan!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, I already got Marzipan a present and I don't really think that—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Right, right. We do it for Marzipan.

{''Cut to Marzipan watering some flowers with a watering can that says "H2Oh!".''}

'''CAPTION:''' Meanwhile...

''{Strong Bad flies onscreen, wearing what appear to be oven mitts}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Marzipan, I heard Homestar's getting you the Yello Dello for your birthday. You wanna know what I got you? NOTHING!

''{Marzipan is angry at Strong Bad's rudeness but cheers herself up by thinking about the Yello Dello}''

''{Back to our heroes at the bottom of the mountain. A burlap sack wiggles next to them}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ok, we got it. Now let's go home and get ready for the party.

''{Marzipan's house is decorated with balloons (on the mailbox) and a big banner reading "happy birthday marzipan" Marzipan hops around a bit by her mailbox then walks over to her house. She opens the door to see Pom Pom, Strong Sad, and Homestar, who is holding chicken on a platter}''

'''ALL:''' Happy Birthday!

''{Marzipan thinks the chicken is the Yello Dello, screams and slaps Homestar. Hard. The unharmed Yello Dello pops out of a giftbox.}''

'''YELLO DELLO:''' Gee, whaddya think her problem was?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I guess I just don't understand the ladies.

'''CAPTION:''' end. ''{The scorpion from the Pitfall scene crawls by and you hear the music played when your Character from the game is killed.}''

== New Version Transcript ==
''{Homestar, Coach Z, and Pom Pom are on the athletic field. Pom Pom is seen kicking a basketball around in the background whilst Homestar kicks a can, depressed}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER''': ''{voiceover}'' One day after sports practice, Coach Z noticed Homestar Runner looking dejected.

'''COACH Z:''' Hey, what's the problem there, Homestar?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh man, Coach Z, I guess I just don't understand the ladies.

'''COACH Z:''' Oh jeez, I figured it was girl trouble. Step into my office.

''{Cut to the locker room}''

'''COACH Z:''' So, tell me what's the matter.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well, it's Marzipan's birthday, and I don't know what to get her!

''{The alien in the shower's towel falls off}''

'''COACH Z:''' Well, Homestar, I tell you. Girls are like a great sports play. ''{We now see a blackboard with a gameplay on it}'' You can't just rush in to the score zone! You kiddin' me? You'd be clobbered! You've gotta stick and move and zig and zag to get past the defenses, so youse can score! ''{blackboard writing forms a skull and crossbones}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' But Coach, I don't understand! ''{Homestar's mouth simply stays open through the entire sentence here}''

'''COACH Z:''' Don't just get her a flower. ''{Scene showing Homestar giving Marzipan a regular flower; flower droops.}'' Get her some rare flower from the tallest mountain! ''{Scene showing Homestar at the top of a mountain with a rare flower wearing lederhosen}'' That way she knows how much she means to yahse!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks Coach! {''Levitates and flies away to the sound of squealing tires''}

{''Homestar is sitting on a rock next to a tree. The sun and moon rise and set several times''}

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' And so he thought...and thought...and thought...and thought...and thought...until finally...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I think I has the solution! The Yello Dello!
{''Scene changes to the Yello Dello on the "Discover Network." A David Attenborough-type host describes the bird''}

'''HOST:''' ''{voiceover}'' Found only in north-eastern Potamia, the Yello Dello is the most rare and beautiful bird in this entire cartoon.

{''Strong Sad, Pom Pom, and Homestar are about to set out on their journey. Homestar picks up his knapsack, which accidentally hits Strong Sad in the face.''}

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' OK, you guys, we're about to embark on a very serious journey. I can't promise you it will be easy, rewarding, or even any fun, really.

''{Pom Pom and Strong Sad exchange a sidelong glance}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' But you guys will do it because you're my friends, right? OK, any questions?

{''Strong Sad raises his hand''}

'''STRONG SAD:''' I have a question—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' OK, let's go!

''{A map appears and red dotted lines track their route through Far Off Lands, Prance, Dortugal, and Potamia}''

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' And so they traveled many miles...

{''The adventurers are in a game of Pitfall.''}

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' Encountered many dangers...

{''Homestar swings over the alligators''}

'''THE ANNOUNCER:''' ''{voiceover}'' Until at last they reached their destination...

''{The Yello Dello is shown atop a mountain. The three approach the base of the mountain}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh I don't know Homestar, that looks really dangerous.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ah, come on guys, let's do it for Marzipan!

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, I already got Marzipan a present and I don't really—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Right, right. We do it for Marzipan.

''{Cut to Marzipan watering some flowers with a watering can that says "H2Oh!".}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{singing to herself}'' My birthday, my birthday, it's almost my birthday. Yeah yeah yeah...

''{Strong Bad flies onscreen, wearing what appear to be oven mitts}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{surprised}'' Oh!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, Marzipan.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh hi, Strong Bad. Are those my oven mitts?

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? No! These are my training gloves...probably... Uhh, anyways, I heard Homestar's getting you the Yello Dello for your birthday.

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{drops watering can}'' Yello Dello?

'''STRONG BAD:''' You wanna know what I got you?

'''MARZIPAN:''' My oven mitts?

'''STRONG BAD:''' NOTHING!

''{Strong Bad leaves. Marzipan is angry at Strong Bad's rudeness but cheers herself up by thinking about the Yello Dello}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' {''happily''} Oh, my very own Yello Dello!

''{Marzipan imagines the Yello Dello wearing a gardener's outfit}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' She can assist me with my gardening!

''{The Yello Dello is seen eating something pink out of what looks like a clam shell on top of the mountain. The camera moves slightly down the mountain where Homestar appears}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' HELLO! YELLO!

''{Strong Sad appears}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' DELLO!

''{Pom Pom appears}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' DELLO! ''{stops singing}'' All right, you guys, any ideas?

''{Pom Pom nods, and pulls out a pistol, which makes a clicking noise}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uhm, I kinda wanted to take her alive, Pom Pom.

''{Pom Pom shrugs, then tosses the pistol off the side of the mountain. Strong Sad raises his hand}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' I have an idea—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' OH! OH! OH! I have the best idea! You guys stay here.

''{Homestar peeks over the peak of the mountain, where we see the Yello Dello's legs}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, hello, Dello. Would you mind coming with us? You see, it's—

''{The Yello Dello starts pecking Homestar furiously on the head. Homestar retreats back to the others all lumped up.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' OK, that didn't work.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{raising his hand again}'' I have an idea—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uhm... sooo...

'''STRONG SAD:''' I have an idea-

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Let me think...

'''STRONG SAD:''' I have an idea—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ...of what to try...

'''STRONG SAD:''' I have an idea—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ...next.

'''STRONG SAD:''' I ha—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' OH! OH! OH! I've got an even BETTER idea!

''{Homestar peeks over the peak of the mountain again, this time behind the Yello Dello}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, hello, Dello. Would you mind coming with us? You see, it's—

''{The Yello Dello once again pecks Homestar furiously on the head, causing Homestar to once again retreat to his friends. Homestar is now lumped up and bleeding from under his cap}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' OK. Uh, Pom Pom, hand me that gun.

''{Pom Pom produces another pistol to hand to Homestar}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh, wait, Homestar, I really have an idea that I think will work and we won't have to shoot the Yello Dello with that gun.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, Strong Sad! How long have you been standing there?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, I've been here pretty much the whole time.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh I ''bet'' you have. Let's hear your idea.

''{Cut back to the top of the mountain. We see the Yello Dello standing there once again. From the bottom of the screen, we see a pillar consisting of Pom Pom, Homestar, and Strong Sad rise itself up to the Yello Dello}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, excuse me, Mrs. Dello, I don't mean to bother you. I just wanted to tell you a story about a little, grey, fat kid that nobody liked.

''{Closeup on Homestar and Pom Pom. We continue to hear Strong Sad speak}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' And the little grey fat kid had two horrible brothers.

''{Some time later, Homestar and Pom Pom have fallen asleep, and Strong Sad is still talking}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' In fact, there was this one time where they took his underpants and filled it with bologna.

''{Cut to long shot featuring the silhouettes of Strong Sad, Homestar, Pom Pom, and the Yello Dello}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' And then there was the time they took the only thing precious to him in the whole world, his journal...

''{More time passes. It's now night, and the Yello Dello is sleeping as well. Strong Sad is STILL speaking}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' —and they read his poems aloud to all the children and they laughed and laughed...

''{Cut to Homestar and Pom Pom dozing again, and Homestar wakes up with a start, and gets up behind Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' And the little grey fat kid was—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I think that's enough, Strong Sad.

'''STRONG SAD:''' And the little grey fat kid was—
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Strong Sad... Strong Sad!

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{shrugs}'' Sorry.

''{Back to our heroes at the bottom of the mountain. A burlap sack making snoring noises sits next to them.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{visibly tired}'' Ok, uhm... nice work you guys. Uhm... let's uh... let's go... um... home.

''{Cut to Marzipan's house. We see Marzipan walking up to her door.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' {''singing to herself''} I'm getting the Yello Dello... yeah yeah yeah...

''{She opens the door to see Pom Pom, Strong Sad, Homestar, Coach Z, and Strong Mad.}''

'''STRONG SAD, HOMESTAR RUNNER, COACH Z, AND STRONG MAD:''' Happy birthday!
'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{simultaneously}'' Happy freakin' birthday!

''{Homestar hands Marzipan a roast chicken. Marzipan thinks the chicken is the Yello Dello.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Oh, how awful! Homestar, how could you?!

''{Marzipan slaps Homestar so hard across the face that the chicken flies out of his hands and across the room.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' This is the worst birthday I've ever had...

''{Marzipan walks off in a huff. The unharmed Yello Dello pops out of a giftbox.}''

'''YELLO DELLO:''' Gee, whaddya think her problem was?

''{Cut back to outside the house}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I guess I just don't understand the ladies...

'''CAPTION:''' end. ''{The scorpion from the Pitfall scene crawls by and you hear the Pitfall death music}''

== Commentary Transcript ==
'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, hello! This is Homestar Runner!

'''STRONG SAD:''' And this is Strong Sad.

'''STRONG BAD:''' And we're both morons!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No, "and welcome to the King of Town Super DVD!"

'''STRONG SAD:''' Uh, I think he means "the Yello Dello DVD."

'''STRONG BAD:''' No, I think what he means is "I'm the dumbest guy on the planet. Here's some proof!"

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' OK, let's begin!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Yeah, let's begin. What the crap kind of freaked-up sport are you guys playing anyway? I mean, you're on a football field, but you've got a basketball goal, and basketballs and footballs...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I know! It's America's pastime! Working with Coach Z is always so great! He's such a-

'''STRONG BAD:''' Idiot? Moron? Crap for brains? Creep? You know, Homestar, I saw Coach Z coming out of Marzipan's house the other day...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Wait. Really? You did?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Little known fact: Homestar gained a hundred pounds and shrank two feet for this role.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' It's true. Oh yeah, oh yeah, this is the scene that has subliminal advertisement! Watch, if you see that X, it ends up going between the E and the Z, which means that it...uhm...is easy...does it?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{sarcastically}'' Pfft! You look so great in that lederhosen, Homestar. Shall we start calling you Homestar von Runnerberger or something?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, I look great in that stuff!

'''STRONG SAD:''' It was ''my'' lederhosen...

'''STRONG BAD:''' And so he crapped and crapped and crapped and crapped and crapped all over that rock.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey! That only happened once!

'''STRONG SAD:''' It was ''my'' rock... uh, it always kind of bugged me how you could never get your grammar right here, Homestar. "I think I ''has'' the solution?" What's that mean?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, and I don't care what anybody says, but that bird is hot. I'll tell you that right now. A fine looking bird. Oh, here comes my favorite part! Oh ho ho! That's so great! That's a great one, Homestar! Classic!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What? What'd I do?

'''STRONG SAD:''' You hit me in the face.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ohhh, I know! It's America's pastime!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, I hate it when Pom Pom floats like that. It gives me the creeps, you know. I don't trust that guy any farther than I can throw him.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh, then you must trust Pom Pom a whole lot—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh shut up, why don't you? You guys were doing pretty good at this point. You hadn't lost any men. Had you found a diamond ring yet?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, yeah, I think we found a diamond ring and some platinum bars and a couple bags of gold.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{imitating Strong Sad}'' Oh, I don't know, Homestar, that looks really dangerous.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Stop that!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{imitating Homestar}'' Oh come on, let's do it for Marzipan!

''{Homestar laughs}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{imitating Strong Sad}'' Well, I already got Marzipan a present.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Stop it!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No, no, keep it up, Strong Bad! I DO sound funny! Who's that? Oh, wait.

'''STRONG BAD:''' OK, now before you guys start, I've got to say, in my defense, that I never wore a pair of oven mitts in my life, OK? Those have ''obviously'' been added in later on using the most advanced computer magic available. All right?

''{Homestar starts laughing}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? I'm serious!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, I wasn't laughing at you. I was laughing at Marzipan. She's funny lookin'.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh man, what a hottie.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' OK, this scene is my pride and joy. I wrote this whole song all by myself. Well, except for the lyrics. And, uh, the music.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, yeah, I got an idea for you: jump. OK, Homestar, where the crap are your legs in this scene?

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, actually, Homestar wasn't in this scene. That was a sophisticated puppet that I'm operating with one of my hands at... offscreen?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh yeah, I remember that. They had to replace me because I didn't have any legs.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Pwahahahaha! OK, I lied, man. THIS is my favorite part of the whole cartoon. Hahaha. Oh look at him. His head looks like one of those things on a cow. ''(gasping for breath)'' You know the part, where the milk comes out.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Well, actually, that was a sophisticated bladder system that I operated off-screen with a belt—

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh shut up, why don't you? Bwahahahaha! Oh man, that's so great! And now he's bleeding! Hohoho! Like some stupid bleeding baby.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Strong Sad, this, I feel, is your strongest role. It's like your every delicate intonation and gesture helps to weave this rich subtext of despair and wisdom.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh wow. Thanks Homestar!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What? Did you just say something to me?

'''STRONG BAD:''' I don't know how the two of you managed to get his, fat, ugly butt up there.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, don't worry. We had, like, twelve other guys underneath us helping.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Haha, it is a, a fat butt isn't it? It's ugly too.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Now this was my time to really shine in the cartoon, so I used a bit of method acting to apply some of my own personal experiences to the scene. ''{snoring in the background}'' And I remembered this time back in school where, all of a sudden, everybody started being real nice to me, and I thought it was 'cause I started wearing this T-shirt that said "I'm #1" on it, but it turns out it was all just because I had a pool.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{wakes up}'' Hmm? What? Huh? What's going on? Oh, Strong Sad is stupid and Homestar is dumb. OK, Homestar, I've gotta ask, do you ever remember your lines? Because you're always going "uhm, uh, uhm, uh OK, OK, uhm."

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uhm... yeah, I think I remembered this one line, one time.

'''STRONG BAD:''' That's a big door.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' That's a fake turkey. That's a fake invisible turkey.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Marzipan really scares me when she's angry.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oooh, ouch. You know, Marzipan has really nice hands.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, I suppose she does.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, you know those little guys creep me out, man. Like, I'll have nightmares where there's like a thousand of those little scorpions crawling all over me.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah yeah yeah, or like that thing from Yar's Revenge, and, like, you wake up, and it's nibbling on pieces of you falling off in squares.

'''STRONG SAD:''' I dream of my own death. Over and over and over and over and over and over ''{fades out with him continually repeating it}''

== Theatrical Trailer Transcript ==
''{Opening preview screen:}''
<blockquote style="background:#390; color:#FFF; padding:12px; width:500px; border:none; font-weight:bold"><center>THE FOLLOWING <big>PREVIEW</big> HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR 
<big>EVERYBODY! EVERYBODY!</big> 
BY THE MOTION PICTURE GUY OF FREE COUNTRY USA</center></blockquote>

''{Cut to scene of a jungle. We see a bright flash and the silhouette of the Yello Dello. The camera lunges forward and dramatic jungle music plays. Everything the Preview Guy says appears as words on the screen.}''

'''PREVIEW GUY:''' ''{voiceover}'' DEEP IN THE DARKEST JUNGLE... ''{Camera lunges forward}'' LURKS A CREATURE SO FEROCIOUS... ''{Camera lunges forward}'' ONLY ONE MAN CAN TAME IT...

''{The Camera lunges forward again and we find Homestar Runner wearing a pith helmet. The music comes to a grinding halt.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What?

''{The theme to In Search of the Yello Dello starts playing}''

'''PREVIEW GUY:''' ''{voiceover}'' THIS SUMMER, THE SEARCH IS ON

''{Cut to screen that looks like the original Title Screen for In Search of the Yello Dello}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' No seriously, what? And what am I wearing this hat for?

''{Fade to the following theatrical credits:}''
<blockquote style="background:#000; color:#FFF; padding:12px; width:500px; border:none">
IN SEARCH OF THE
<center>'''YELLO-DELLO''' 
A HOMESTAR RUNNER CARTOON – IN SEARCH OF THE YELLO-DELLO STARRING HOMESTAR RUNNER  POM-POM  STRONG SAD MARZIPAN  COACH Z  AND STRONG BAD VOICES BY MISSY PALMER AND MATT CHAPMAN WRITTEN, ANIMATED, AND PRODUCED BY THE BROTHERS CHAPS</center></blockquote>

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Ohhh, it's a PREVIEW. Oh, now I get it.

''{Homestar sticks his head in front of the screen}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Everybody, it was a preview.

== Deleted Scenes Transcripts ==
=== Original Danger ===
'''CAPTION:''' Deleted Scene #1: This scene was to be used as one of the perils that Homestar, Pom Pom, and Strong Sad faced on their journey to find the Yello Dello. Homestar's foul mouth kept it out of the final cut.

''{Cut to scene from the Atari game Barnstormers. Homestar is piloting a biplane with Strong Sad and Pom Pom as passengers, and runs it into a barn four times, then pulls up and runs into a couple birds}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Somebody get this freakin' duck away from me!

=== Coach Z's Office ===
'''CAPTION:''' Deleted Scene #2: Coach Z's office wasn't always the locker room. Watch and learn. And be disturbed.

'''COACH Z:''' Step into my office.

''{Cut to the showers. Homestar is seen from the back, naked except for a showercap, while Coach Z is fully clothed.}''

'''COACH Z:''' So, tell me what's the matter. ''{claps three times}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Well...

=== Strong Mad ===
'''CAPTION:''' Originally cast in the role of Strong Bad, was Strong Mad. Despite a stellar performance, it was later decided that his oven mitts were too big, so the role went to Strong Bad.

''{Cut to Strong Mad and Marzipan standing in Marzipan's garden.}''

'''STRONG MAD:''' THE YELLO DELLO...

'''MARZIPAN:''' What?

'''STRONG MAD:''' YELLO DELLO...

'''MARZIPAN:''' What did you say? Mello Yello?

'''STRONG MAD:''' The Yello Dello...

'''MARZIPAN:''' What?

'''STRONG MAD:''' Uhhhh... Homestar...

'''MARZIPAN:''' I'm Marzipan.

== Fun Facts ==

=== Remarks ===
*When Coach Z talks to Homestar Runner about not just getting Marzipan a flower, but getting a special flower, Homestar's star has unusual lines across it. Star shapes are sometimes drawn this way so that the shape can easily be drawn symmetrically. This symbol is called a pentacle.
*If you go to the third deleted scene, the one where Strong Mad plays Strong Bad's role, you can see that Strong Mad has a [[Wikipedia:Black Flag (band)|Black Flag]] tattoo on his right arm. Also, he has a shirt with a megaphone decal on it.
* The flower that Marzipan is watering is made in the likeness of the flower given by Homestar in Coach Z's "bad gift" scenario.
*Marzipan's handprint provides further speculation into whether or not Homestar Runner, Marzipan, Homsar and the King of Town have existent, yet invisible, arms and hands.
*Unless Pom Pom had two identical guns, he couldn't have pulled out the gun the second time, because he threw it away.
*The goat head that pops out from behind the mountain in Coach Z's "Bad gift scenario" is also used in the old game "Audition for Marzipan".

=== Goofs ===
*There is no "back" link at the end of the old version.
*The link to the storyboards no longer works.

=== Real-World References ===

* "Hello Yello Dello" might be a reference to [[Wikipedia:Three Stooges|The Three Stooges']] quote of "Hello, Hello, Hello! Hello hello hello hello hello!"
*The deleted scene with the plane is a reference to the Atari 2600 game [http://www.atariage.com/screenshot_page.html|?SoftwareLabelID=976 Barnstorming]. The scene with the scorpion is also from the classic Atari 2600 game [http://www.atariage.com/screenshot_page.html|?SoftwareLabelID=360 Pitfall].
*The title may be a reference to the old TV series [[Wikipedia:In Search of...|"In Search Of"]], which was narrated by [[Wikipedia:Leonard Nimoy|Leonard Nimoy]] ([[Wikipedia:Star Trek|Star Trek's]] [[Wikipedia:Mr. Spock|Mr. Spock]]) and detailed the search for various legendary beasts, artifacts, and places (e.g. In Search of [[Wikipedia:Bigfoot|Bigfoot]], In Search of [[Wikipedia:Loch Ness Monster|The Loch Ness Monster]], and so on).
*[[Wikipedia:Mello Yello|Mello Yello]] (mentioned in the third deleted scene) is a brand of soda made by [[Wikipedia:Coca-Cola|Coca-Cola]] similar to [[Wikipedia:Mountain Dew|Mountain Dew]].
*The menu theme being obnoxiously loud is a reference to Pitfall 2, in which it played all through the game incredibly loud for an Atari. The menu theme is also the same as Pitfall 2's.
* H2-OH! is a bottled water brand.
*The Yello Dello's manner of eating is a reference to the Lucasarts adventure game LOOM, in which a seagull eats a clam in the same way.
* The character from [[Wikipedia:Yars' Revenge|Yars' Revenge]] that Homestar mentions in the Commentary is the Yar that you control in the game. In the game you can eat squares off of the Quotile's (the enemy) Shield.

=== Fast Forward ===

*In the deleted scene, where Homestar and his companions are in the plane, after they fly into the ducks Homestar yells out, "Somebody get this freakin' [[Ducks|duck]] away from me!" This would be later said by Strong Bad relating to the Atari dragon on [[Main Page 13]].
*The quote, "I think I has the solution" was also said by Strong Bad in [[little questions]]

== DVD Contents ==

''' Menu '''
*Page Title: '''LIMITED EDITION COLLECTORS' PLATE -- I MEAN DVD!!'''
**[[HR:yellodellomenu.html|view the "Yello Dello" DVD menu]]
**[[HR:yellodellomenu.swf|view the flash file for the "Yello Dello" DVD menu]]
''' New Version '''
*Page Title: '''IN SEARCH OF THE YELLO-DELLO v2.0'''
**[[HR:yellodello_mark2.html|watch "In Search of the Yello Dello", the new version]]
**[[HR:yellodello_mark2.swf|view the flash file for the new version of "In Search of the Yello Dello"]]
''' Storyboard '''
*Page Title: '''Yello Dello Storyboards'''
**[[HR:delloboard1.html|view the storyboards]]
''' Commentary '''
*Page Title: '''YELLO-DELLO COMMON TATERS'''
**[[HR:dellocomment.html|watch the commentary]]
**[[HR:dellocomment.swf|view the Flash file for the commentary]]
''' "Theatrical" Trailer '''
*Page Title: '''Coming in June to a theater near you'''
**[[HR:dellotrailer.html|watch the theatrical trailer]]
**[[HR:dellotrailer.swf|view the Flash file for the theatrical trailer]]
''' Old Version '''
*Page title: '''In Search of the Yello Dello'''
**[[HR:yellodello.html|watch the old version]]
**[[HR:yellodello.swf|view the Flash file for the old version]]
''' Deleted Scenes '''
*Page title: '''Diluted Scene #1'''
**[[HR:deleted1.html|watch deleted scene #1]]
**[[HR:deleted1.swf|view the Flash file for deleted scene #1]]
*Page title: '''Diluted Scene #2'''
**[[HR:deleted2.html|watch deleted scene #2]]
**[[HR:deleted2.swf|view the Flash file for deleted scene #2]]
*Page title: '''Diluted Scene #3'''
**[[HR:deleted3.html|watch deleted scene #3]]
**[[HR:deleted3.swf|view the Flash file for deleted scene #3]]
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HRWiki talk:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.5

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Big Knives

2005-10-02T11:32:11Z

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[[Image:bigknife.png|thumb|A big-type knife is better than a small-type knife.]]

'''Big Knife''' is one of the oldest recurring references in the Homestar universe. This inside joke's featured appearance was in the email [[i love you]], although it appeared earlier in the [[Theme Song Video]]. [[Strong Bad]] seems to have a particular—albeit unexplained—affinity for it. The big knife appears on the [[Strongbadia]] flag, among many other places.
==Sightings==
*In the [[Theme Song Video]], Strong Bad throws the knife at Strong Sad while he is strapped to a spinning wheel.
*In [[i love you]], Strong Bad's weapon of choice makes its email premiere in his [[Painting of a guy with a big knife]].
*In [[band names]], one of the band names Strong Bad suggests is "Bigg Nife."
*In [[flag day]], the knife appears in the clutches of a snake on the Strongbadian flag.
*In [[Everybody to the Limit]], Strong Bad pops out of the [[Visor Robot]] with knife in hand.
*In [[japanese cartoon]], even [[Stinkoman]] gets a piece of the big knife action by posing with it in a cool manner.
*In [[marzipan]], Strong Bad asks The Cheat if he could borrow "that big knife."
*In [[couch patch]], Strong Bad cuts a hole in [[The Couch]] with the knife so he can hide his "Aztec gold."
*In [[army]], the [[Painting of a guy with a big knife]] apparently turns traitor and becomes a member of the [[Homestarmy]].
*In [[CGNU]], one of the requirements to get into the [[Crazy Go Nuts University]] is to draw a picture of that very same guy with a big knife.
* In [[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]], the minigame "Strong Bad's Treat Snatcha" involves using Strong Bad's knife to get treats out of trick-or-treaters' bags (although it does appear to be slightly different from the big knife).
* In [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 9]], The Ugly One carves "BFF" into a tree with the knife.
[[Category: Inside Jokes]]
[[Category: Weapons]]

HRWiki:The Stick

2005-10-02T10:30:28Z

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Blue Laser Minion

2005-09-29T11:57:51Z

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[[Image:BL_Minions.PNG|thumb|right|220px|Blue Laser minions]]
'''Blue Laser minions''' are the foot soldiers of [[Blue Laser]], an evil organization of evil that does evil stuff for few explored reasons. The minions are led by [[Blue Laser Commander]], but they are always defeated by the [[Cheat Commandos]].

Blue Laser minions wear blue bodysuits with the Blue Laser emblem on the chest, head visors, and blue patches on one arm. Just about every sentence they say ends in "sir", whether or not it is actually addressed to a man. Each one speaks in the same monotone voice, a reference to the fact that, to this day, many cartoons use only one or two different voices for generic footsoldiers. In more recent cartoons, this has been explained away by making all the soldiers robots programmed with the same voice, or clones of the same person, but in the 80's, viewers were expected to ignore the fact that every single member of various armies sounded exactly the same.

In the [[Cheat Commandos (toon)|Cheat Commandos Commercial]], six of them went to build and protect [[The Stick|a radar dish]], which [[Reinforcements]] destroyed, crushing all but one. On a second mission, two were sent to protect the Blue Laser mountain headquarters, where the Blue Laser Commander was planning to blow up the ocean. However, [[Firebert]] blew a part off the headquarters with explosives, crushing the two guards.

== Filmography ==
*'''Debut:''' [[Cheat Commandos (toon)|Cheat Commandos]]
*[[:Category:Blue_Laser_minion_Filmography|Complete Filmography]]
[[Category: Cheat Commandos Characters]]

Stinkoman 20X6

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[[Image:stinkogame.png|thumb|Always looking for a fighting or a challenge.]]

''Blue hair, anyone? Stinkoman's always got fightings and challenges to keep him busy. Jump and shoot your way to all ends of Planet K. End Boss feature!!'' --[[Videlectrix]] description

'''Stinkoman 20X6''' is a side-scrolling platformer game which stars [[Stinkoman]]. This game is based on the [[Wikipedia:Mega Man Classic|classic Capcom ''Mega Man'' series]]. It also parodies the [[Wikipedia:Engrish|poor "Japanese to English" translations]] common to video games of that era, similar to those that appear on the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|current Games Menu]].

[[The Brothers Chaps]] demonstrated the game at [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|their talk at NYU]] before it was released.

'''Date:''' March 21, 2005

[[Image:stinkobox.png|thumb|Stinkoman 20X6 box art]]

==Updates==

*March 21, 2005 - Debut
*April 26, 2005 - Level 4 Added With Stinkomanual Article
*May 9, 2005 - Level 5 Added With Stinkomanual Article
*May 16, 2005 - Level 6 Added
*May 24, 2005 - Level 6's Stinkomanual Article Added
*July 4, 2005 - Level 7 Added
*July 6, 2005 - Level 7's Stinkomanual Article Added
*August 1, 2005 - Level -0 Added With Stinkomanual Article
*September 5, 2005 - Level 9 Added With Stinkomanual Article, icons added to the menus, "Continute" menu select-colours changed and shooting mechanism changed slightly.

== Easter Eggs ==
* Hover your mouse below "Controls" on the main menu to access the [[Stinkomanual]].
** When you click it, "loading manuél" appears briefly.
* Wait long enough at the title screen to see an [[Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough#Transcript|intro cinematic]].
* Stay still long enough and Stinkoman will yawn.
** On the Level 4 stages, after yawning Stinkoman will rest against his giant fist.
** On the Level 5 stages, [[1-Up]] will fall asleep and blow a [http://tvwiki.sytes.net/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SnotBubble snot bubble].
** On the Level 7 stages, Stinkoman will shiver and eventually freeze (this costs you one unit of energy.)

== Fun Facts ==
=== Trivia ===
* This is the first time we have seen [[Stinkoman Headquarters|Stinkoman's House]]. (Or any 20X6 character's house, for that matter).
*In the "Game Over" screen, Stinkoman has a green tongue, just like Strong Bad in [[Super NES]], although it's red or pink all other times that it is seen in the game — though the green tongue may be due to the fact that his "stummy hurts."
**Just as well, 1-Up's "Game Over screen" has him standing with the caption "My tongue is green..."
**The Level -0 "Game Over screen" has a glitched up sprite of Stinkoman and 1-Up with the caption "Sorry, Hamburger."
**The Level 9 "Game Over screen" is like the normal screen, only it includes a destroyed Stinkowing with the caption "Our stummies hurts..."
* In the bottom right-hand corner of the PLAY GAME! screen it says "V7.1 EPISODES 1-9".
** It said "V6.0 EPISODES 1-8" until September 5, 2005, when the ninth level was added.
** It said "V5.0 EPISODES 1-7" until August 1, 2005, when the eighth level was added.
** It said "V4.0 EPISODES 1-6" until July 4, 2005, when the seventh level was added.
** It said "V3.0 EPISODES 1-5 THUS FAR" until May 16, 2005, when the sixth level was added.
** It said "V2.0 EPISODES 1-4" until May 9, 2005, when the fifth level was added.
** It said "V1.X EPISODES 1-3" until April 26, 2005, when the fourth level was added.
* This game used to lack the gray navbar at the bottom of the screen to move to other parts of the website. But when Level 4 was added the links were added also.
* The quality of the music in Level 7 onward is higher than the other ones, resulting in sharper sound.
* In versions 4 (and below), the Flash 7 Warning in the bottom left corner read "FLASH PLAYER 7 REQUIRED". In version 5, it read "FLASH 7 VERY REQUIRED". In version 6, it read "FLASH 7 REQUIRED, 8 IS COOL TOO". In version 7, it reads "FLASH 7 OR HIRE REQUIRED".
* In the beginning of level 6, in the cutscene when Stinkoman is playing the game the music is the same as the moon level. When he gets Game Over it is also the same music you get when it's Game Over. He might be playing Stinkoman 20X6!
*When world 8/-0 was first released, the Poorbt at the beginning of level -0.1 came from the right side of the screen. It now comes from the left.
**With the release of version 7.1, it comes from the right again.
*The Level 8/-0 "MORE LEVELS TO COME" screen has/had a glitched screen, with a miscolored Stinkoman, and the bronze Pan Pan from the intro, with the caption reading "MORE LEVLS TO C OME". A piece of the music would loop like a broken record until the page eventually refreshed.
[[Image:Stinkoman 20X6 MORE LEVLS TO C OME.PNG|thumb|Glitch'D!]]
*The Level 9 "MORE LEVELS TO COME" screen had the picture from the "TRY LEVEL 9.X" screen, with the caption reading "LAST LEVEL TO COME!"
*Version 7 enabled the menus to be navigated with either the mouse or keyboard.
*When version 7 was released, Stinkoman's punches changed from the usual pattern. They used to fly forwards a small bit, while falling slightly, and then disappear. However, it seems they now have much the same traits as the lasers the ship fires, heading almost straight forward without any hindrance.
**Because of this, you can kill the Greggo at the beginning of 1.2 by shooting repeatedly as you fall into the level.
*The "No Flash 7" warning box reads;
<pre>
FLASH PLAYER 7
IS REQUIRED
TO PLAY STINKOMAN 20X6

THIS THING SAYS YOU DON'T HAS</pre>
*When level 9 was first released, your number of shields would remain constant after losing a life. This meant that you could hoard shields if you had lives to spare, or that you could use up all your shields on one life and have none on the next. This has since been changed: after losing a life, your shield count always resets to 3.
*Aside from the "[[Kerrek]]" and "[[Trogdor]]" versions of the [[Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer]], stinkogame.swf is the single largest Flash file on the site.

=== Remarks ===
* This is the second instance of sprites modeled after 8-bit Megaman, the first instance being with Coach Z in [[Hip Hop Dance]].
*On Levels 4.1 and 4.2, Stinkoman can actually fall down in certain spots to join 1-Up, but you will eventually lose because there will be no one to jump on the tiles.
* To get capsules that are hiding behind enemies without having to kill the enemy, run into the enemy with health to spare. You will take damage, grab the crunch and will be invincible long enough to escape unharmed.
*The head of the [[Shadowy Figure|silhouette]] at the end of Levels 5 and 6 and beginning of 7 and -0 appears to match the head of [[20X6 Coach Z]] in the Games menu.
*Stinkoman "breaks the [[Fourth Wall Breaks|Fourth Wall]]" by saying (in Level 5) "No way! I helped you in Level 4!"
**He does it again at the end of Level -0 by saying that 1-Up and [[Pan Pan]] "are on Level 10."
*The meteors in Level 5 cause the game to lag for a split second when they crash. This may be done on purpose to emulate how easy it is to put stress on older game systems.
*This is the first new game not to use some sort of scoring system.
*In Episode 4, when Stinkoman is facing to the right, his giant fist powerup is a left hand but when he turns around the fingers are still facing the player so it turns into a right hand. This "sprite mirroring" is common in older games to conserve memory. A notable exception is Metroid, in which Samus is always left handed.
*When 1-Up falls into the fiery lava below (usually when a platform is not in the right position), the screen pans to the right for a little bit before losing the life. Is 1-Up still walking down there?
*The 1-Up sprites in Level 4 are slightly different from the ones in Level 5 — they were not reused, as the Stinkoman ones are.
*There are three kinds of ladders used in the game: Ladders with small rungs (1.1, 1.2, 5.2), ladders with large rungs (2.1, 2.2, 5.1, 6.1), and ladders with duck rungs (-0.1, -0.2).
*If you type in the URL for volume 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6, for a split second the page title will say "Old Stinkoman Game Page R.I.P." then it will take you to the current one.
*The sound made when collecting a capsule or an extra life is the same as cracking a Bitzar.
*In Level 2.3, if you listen closely, when Brody tries to peck you, you can hear him shriek. Also, Ekersby shrieks when he raises his arms.
*The background music of the cutscene of level 1.1 is the same as the music in the background of the level 3.1 cutscene.
*It is possible to get a ton of extra lives in level -0.2. Since there are two extra lives available, once you get both, you can die and start over, gaining one more for each time.
*All of the voice clips in the game have been taken from previous 20X6 'toons and sped up. ("20X6!"; "Are you asking for a challenge?"; Stinkoman's victory laugh; "I wanna be the guy too!")
*Sackastanos and Semulades sport visors which are edited Browntant visors.
*During the fight with Brody, he will lift both of his legs off the ground at the same time. How could he be still standing?
*Harvax XVII's hands are white, but his face is purple.
*There is no cutscene before the boss battle on Level 9.3 against Harvax XVII's.

=== Goofs ===
*Manual inconsistencies:
**Kolkaryu is listed under level 2, but Kolkaryu already appears in level 1.
**Old Sage is listed under level 2, but Old Sages already appear in level 1.
**Level 3 is called "Dumb Wall" on the level select screen, but it's called "Up 'n Down" in the instruction manual.
**In Level 1 in the manual, the original version said "face treats" instead of "fave treats."
**Level 3 is the only part to have its title constantly on the top of the page. All of the other Levels' titles disappear after the first page.
**When v4 (Level 6) and v5 (Level 7) were first put up, The Brothers Chaps forgot to update the [[Stinkomanual]] to include Level 6. This was fixed, but the release of version 5 seemingly broke it again. Later in the day, the level 6 section was replaced, the level 7 section was added.
[[Image:level1.jpg|thumb|Level 1 or Level 1.1? ]]
*In the Videlectrix catalogue, if you click Stinkoman 20X6, a screenshot of the game will appear. In the bottom right corner, it says "Level 1" and not "Level 1.1".
*Any damage you took as Stinkoman in levels 3 and 4 will remain on 1-Up in level 5, even though they're not the same person.
**Similarly, any damage you took as 1-Up in Level 5 will remain on Stinkoman when you progress to level 6.
*The two Pooru-Poorus at either end of Stlunko seem to be hovering above the ground.
*When you fall off the conveyor belt on Stlunko and stand on the ground below the belt, you'll still be carried along with it. (However, once you jump or are hit by one of the Pooru-Poorus, you appear back on the conveyor belt.)
*When Stinkoman wears his giant fist, it is slightly larger than when Stlunko has it.
*Before level 4, 1-UP says he is taking a short cut. Before level 5, they are back at Stinkoman Headquarters. The "short cut" didn't go anywhere!
*In levels 4.1 and 4.2, if Stinkoman walks directly beneath the lavafall and then hits the ground with the rock fist, he apparently deflects the lava with his head.
*In the "Level Select" screen, levels 9.1 and 9.2 were listed as -0.1 and -0.2. This was fixed later in the day.


=== Glitches ===
''See [[Stinkoman 20X6 Glitches]].''

=== Inside References ===
* "Check out my new gameplay!" is a reference to Stinkoman's quote "Check out my new cosplay!" in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
* Level 3.2 reveals that Stinkoman hates apples, just as Strong Bad does in [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]].
* The health-restoring pills are a reference to the capsule containing the "power crunch" from the Strong Bad Email [[time capsule]].
**They are also a reference to the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]], where you can get similar capsules to change your ship.
* Grundy's illustration in the manual shows him running in a manner similar to [[Homestar Runner]].
* Stlunko, the level 3 boss, bears a striking resemblance to the [[Visor Robot]].
*The Rose Blake's description in the manual as a "'Lectric burner" is a reference to the email [[extra plug]], where Strong Bad gets [['Lectric Boots]].
*The line "blast em up [[Dan]]!" is an adaptation of "fry 'em up, Dan!" from [[TROGDOR!]]
*The sentence in the manual, "Falling from the skies and bove", references [[That Time of Year]].
*The Stobats in Level 2 blow up like the ducks in [[Duck Guardian]] after being hit with the hatch ray.
*1-Up saying "I'm going this way!" is a reference to [[Meet Marshie]].
*1 Up in the level 5 cut scene says "Mooooooon" just like a soy drunken Strong Bad did in [[personal favorites]] and in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]] when Strong Bad says, "We're takin' this baby to da MOOOOOOOOOOOON!"
*When 1-Up defeats [[Nebulon]], he says no one likes his style, just like Strong Bad did in [[New Boots]].
*1-Up saying that he's just a kid, and maybe when he's older is a reference to [[japanese cartoon]].
*The ship that flies by at the beginning of 5.1 and 5.2 is featured twice in "japanese cartoon" that was originally intended to be the 20X6 version of [[20X6 The Cheat|The Cheat]].
*The background in Level 5 looks like the third background in the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|Games menu]].
*The Saargtsson intro cinema contains yet another appearance of Stinkoman's signature attack, the [[Double Deuce]], but this time uses a ''Single Deuce''.
*There are ladders in level -0 that resemble ducks from [[Duck Guardian]].
*The red and green lamps on Level 2 are similar to the one in the bar in the [[Theme Song Video]].
*The ship you fly in Level 9 is the Stinkoman ship in the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]].
*Stinkoman's line at the end of Level 9, "Prawn Salad", is a reference to the easter egg in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]], where Stinkoman says "I love prawns! Simple as that!"

=== Real-World References ===
* Stlunko, 404 is a reference to the 404 error that browsers give when a webpage cannot be found.
* The [[Wikipedia:Piedmont_(United States)|Piedmont]] region of the United States is the area between the Atlantic coastal plain and the Appalachian mountains. Atlanta, home of the Brothers Chaps, lies in this region. [[Wikipedia:Piedmont|Piedmont]] is also a region in Northern Italy.
* Lundsford is a reference to the symbol and/or mascot of [http://www.georgianaturalgas.com/ Georgia Natural Gas]. Billboards featuring this symbol and character can be seen in many places in the Atlanta area where The Brothers Chaps live.
**This is more accurately a combination of Moldorm and [http://www.flyingomelette.com/kidicarus/kidicarusenemies.html Hewdraw] from ''Kid Icarus''.
*Negatory is [[Wikipedia:Citizens%27_band_radio|Citizens' Band Radio]] (CB) [http://www.cbgazette.com/slang.html slang] for no or negative.
*[http://www.protekdevices.com/aboutProtek00.htm Protek] is a Tempe, AZ based company specializing in Transient Voltage Suppression products. This may explain why the Protek enemy is an electric outlet.
*Stratosfear is an album by The Unisex.
====Nintendo Entertainment System====
*The game controller Stinkoman is holding in the cutscene for level 5.1, bears a striking resemblance to the [http://www.gamerzuniverse.net/nintendo/imagesnes/dogbone.jpg redesigned NES controller] (AKA the dogbone controller).
* The fade-in is a reference to NES games that had large images in the background fade in. Because the NES did not have many colors to choose from, there would be weird color glitches with some games when they'd have something fade in.
====Mega Man series====
* The sprites used for Stinkoman are patterned after 8-bit ''Mega Man'' sprites, and the same applies to the enemy Poorbt and Astromund.
** In fact, the poses of the [[Videlectrix Mascot]] in the logo are taken directly from the NES ''Mega Man'' series.
* The sounds of the text appearing in the cinematics are also the same as in ''Mega Man''.
**The chime noise for the main menu is taken from the first ''Mega Man X'' game.
* In ''Mega Man V'', there is a chicken robot similar to the chickens encountered in level 2.
* When Stinkoman says that the large gray fist could be a new powerup and takes off with it, this is an obvious reference to Mega Man taking the power of defeated bosses.
* At the start of the first side-scrolling stage the little theme played is very similar to the old ''Mega Man'' starting theme. In fact, the whole soundtrack was probably meant to sound like ''Mega Man'' game music.
* Stinkoman being unable to clear the wall using his normal jump is also a joke from ''Mega Man''.
* When all three characters flash onto the screen during the intro, that is also a ''Mega Man'' reference, where in one of the arcade games (namely ''Mega Man: The Power Battle'') Mega Man, Proto Man, and Bass would flash onto the screen in a similar way.
*The spikes that can kill Stinkoman instantly (Old Sage) are a reference to similar spikes which were placed under moving platforms in Mega Man games and which would also kill Mega Man instantly.
* The dropping platforms are a reference to the original ''Mega Man'', in which similar platforms were found in Guts Man's stage.
* Only three of Stinkoman's flying fists can be on the screen at the same time. In the ''Mega Man'' series, Mega Man's Mega Buster shots also suffer from the same drawbacks. Even in Level 4, Stinkoman can only drop three clusters of rocks onscreen when pounding his giant fist.
**Early sprite-based video games suffered this fate as well. Limiting the number of sprites on screen prevented slow down.
* Greggos are similar to Metalls (also known as Mettaurs, Metools, Mets, or Hard Hats), who were also invincible while ducking.
* Stinkoman fights like Mega Man X by shooting at enemies while 1-Up fights like Zero with acrobatic melee attacks.
* The Bendini Sisters that fall on level 5 are similar to the meteorites that fall in Star Man's stage in Mega Man 5 for the NES.
*The "Evil Fortress" in the levels 9 and 10 are an obvious parody of the Skull Castle/Fortress in ''MegaMan''.
* The bulky, muscular Stinkoman on the box art is likely a reference to the first and second ''Mega Man'' games, where the original American version of the game's box art had a big, muscular Mega Man that looked nothing like the character in the game. It could also be a reference to [[time capsule]] where Stinko Man got huge muscles from eating a power crunch.
**This problem wasn't exclusive to the Megaman series. Almost every game localized for the U.S had new box art made for it. This continued right up till the days of the SNES.

====Legend of Zelda series====
*My Benj is similar to the Bit enemies in Zelda II: The Adventure of Link.
* Stlunko is one of many, many video game bosses that consist of a mostly inactive head defended by two enormous disembodied hands. Such bosses are popular in [[Wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda series|The Legend of Zelda]] series, examples being Bongo-Bongo from [[Wikipedia: The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|Ocarina of Time]], Gohdan from [[Wikipedia: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker|The Wind Waker]] and Mazaal from [[Wikipedia: The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap|The Minish Cap]].
*Saargtsson is most likely a reference to [http://www.zeldauniverse.net/content/view/62/46/ Moldorm] from ''The Legend of Zelda'' video games, who was almost exactly the same in terms of appearance, and having a weakness in its tail.
*The fact that Gaspeau (red) and Frotzer (blue) are almost the same exact enemies may be a reference to the old Zelda games where an enemy could be red or blue and that the blue version of the enemy was always harder. In fact, many game have used the method of recoloring an enemy to represent a harder version.
**This was common practice among sprite-based games. To get the most use out of the graphics ROMs, designers would re-use game graphics by drawing them with any of several palettes. An object drawn with a different palette from the same graphic looks identical to the original except for its colors, like Gaspeau and Frotzer, or like the normal Browntant and the blue variant on Level 6.
====Super Mario Bros./Donkey Kong series====
* Tampo moves in a similar way to that of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_Kong_Country_2:_Diddy%27s_Kong_Quest Krow,] the first boss in Donkey Kong Country 2.
* The manual mentioning this game has no "weepy princess crap" is a reference to the Super Mario series, the Legend of Zelda series, and a few other games where you had to rescue a helpless princess.
** Likewise, Pan Pan being kidnapped references the countless games which featured a random character being kidnapped, such as in Donkey Kong Country 2 or 3.
* Hold B is a reference to ''Super Mario Bros.'' and a few other Nintendo games in which if you held down B, you would run faster or power up your weapon. In this game, holding S (which is like a B button) allows you to rapid fire. In Megaman, this would allow you charge up your shot for a more powerful hit.
*There are a vast number of seemingly unexplainable appearances of letter P in NES-era games. Ranging from P-switches, P-wings, P-gauges etc. in ''Super Mario Bros. 3'', to the Arm Cannon/Mega Buster character designation in ''Mega Man 2''. This may explain the collectible Ps in level 3.
**P most likely stands for "power" in these games.
*Firey-Hot is a lot like the fire coming out of the cannons in the airship levels on Super Mario Bros. 3.
*The Old Sages on the moon look mysteriously like the spikes on the moon in Super Mario Land 2.
*In the cutscene after 6.3, Liekand is defeated and shows that it was a rat after all. This may be a reference to the Sega Genesis game Sonic the Hedgehog, where defeated enemies revealed that they were once an animal.
**The mouse looks amazingly like Mouser, the first and sixth boss of Doki Doki Panic, or Super Mario Bros. 2.
***In the same game, the level 4 boss was a flame wearing sunglasses called "Fryguy", which resembles the Liekand.
*Level -0 (Negatory) is a reference to the [[Wikipedia:Minus World|Minus World]] level found in the original ''[[Wikipedia:Super Mario Bros.|Super Mario Bros.]]'' game, which was a glitch that could be found by walking through a wall in level 1-2.

====Other Games====
*In one portion of level 5.2, if you jump off of the top of a platform, you will see a planet that has a C-shaped portion on its left side. This portion bears a striking similarity to the stylized C in the title of "Chrono Trigger".
* Stinkoman's becoming bored when idle is an old gag first found in the old PC game ''[[Wikipedia:Boulder Dash|Boulder Dash]]'', later emulated in ''[[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog (Genesis)|Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' and countless other titles.
* Right after Tampo blows up in the cinematic, you can hear the same sound that is played in Metroid when Samus phases in.
* Stinkoman doing a forward flip is a reference to characters such as Samus Aran and Duke Nukem, whose over-the-top flips served little or no in game purpose.
** However, it does allow Stinkoman to jump a small distance further.
* The first boss, Tampo, is similiar to the final boss of ''Star Fox 64'', which was the giant, floating brain of Andross, which had the same weak point (medulla).
*The pose with the large fist is a direct reference to the old NES game Battletoads.
*Jaro's explosion appears to be modeled after many of the character explosions in ''Rad Gravity'' for the [[Wikipedia:Nintendo Entertainment System|NES]].
*1-Up's spin kick bears a resemblance to the [[wikipedia:Street Fighter|''Street Fighter'']] move "Tatsumaki Senpuu Kyaku" (otherwise known as the Hurricane Kick), which Homestar uses in [[dangeresque 3]].
*The "pink cloud zone" in level 6 could be a reference to countless video games with cloud zones, but is most likely to [[Wikipedia:Earthbound|Earthbound]], where the sixth Your Sanctuary location (in Dalaam) is called Pink Cloud.
*Level four is a reference to many such levels in classic period games, (now often called "protect-the-idiot levels"), in which a character would keep walking with no A.I. at all—right towards all sorts of enemies and such traps! Many gamers became annoyed with this, as it would be hard to protect this weakling, and if it died, they died. This design is still used frequently today.
*Fullbide's drawing in the "manuel" resembles the shield attacker enemy from various Mega Man games.
*The [[Shadowy Figure|mysterious character]] in the cutscene before level 7.1 is a reference to the evil boss [[:Image:ashtar.png|Ashtar]] from the Nintendo game Ninja Gaiden II, who appears in a silhouette from behind in the [http://www.gamespot.com/nes/action/ninjagaiden2thedarksoc/media.html cutscene] at the beginning of the game, laughs maniacally, and is surrounded by lightning.
*Stinkoman blasting the wall away in level -0 is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Dragon Ball (Manga)|Dragon Ball]] where a similar attack called the [[Wikipedia:Kamehameha Wave|"Kamehameha Wave"]] is used. It even looks the same when Stinkoman charges it up.
* The text "PI...PI...PI..." in the cutscene at the end of level 9.3 refers to [[:Image:bionic_commando.png|messages spoken by robots]] in the [[Wikipedia:Nintendo Entertainment System|NES]] game [[Wikipedia:Bionic Commando|Bionic Commando]].
**It also might be a reference to Dragon Warrior Monsters 2, where one of the secret bosses was a Roboster, that, after a few battles, would say the same thing.
**More likely it is a direct translation of Japanese "robot sounds"... the robots in Chrono Cross and a few other games also say similar things.
* The flying ship levels are strikingly similar in context to ''Operation Neptune'', a submarine/math program devised by The Learning Company. That game also involved sea-like creatures moving in an erratic fashion. In this game, you had to gather special pieces of a space capsule which crashed into the sea. Gameplay was similar, yet you didn't have infinite ink pellets to shoot, and you could turn around, no autoscrolling etc. etc.
** They are also similar to the NES game Gradius.
*The fact that the main villain sends out an aquatic armada echoes the second to last level of [[Wikipedia:Sonic Heroes|Sonic Heroes]].
*Harvax XVII fights exactly like Kaboola, a blimp-like enemy from [[Wikipedia:Kirby's Dream Land|Kirby's Dream Land]].
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== External Links ==
* [[HR:stinkogame/v7/stinkogame.html|Play Stinkoman 20X6]]
* [[HR:stinkogame/v7/stinkogame.swf|Play the Game (Flash file)]]
* [[HR:stinkogame/v7/objectLibrary.swf|See the Stinkoman 20X6 object library]]

[[Category:Stinkoman 20X6]]

Cool Things

2005-08-31T09:21:57Z

Meneth: /* Inside References */ added Dangereque 2 Theme Song reference

[[Image:cool tapes.PNG|200px|thumb|What in Pete Sampras is goin' on here?]]
Homestar tries to do something constructive. Strong Sad gets a date. Marzipan forms a band with Strong Mad and The Cheat. Bubs decides to stick it to the man.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Strong Bad}} (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Marzipan's House]], [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], [[The Field]], [[Strong Bad's Basement]] (Easter egg)

'''Date:''' August 15, 2005

'''Running Time:''' 4:00

'''Page Title:''' Sittin' with a kitty...

== Transcript ==

''{COOL THINGS appears on Marzipan's carpet. We tilt up to see Homestar and Marzipan sitting on the couch. Marzipan is reading "Peter Threadbare", while Homestar just looks bored.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{sighs}'' Sitting on the couch is zero amount of fun when there's not a TV or hang glider in front of it.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, why don't you do something constructive? Like read a book, or write a novella.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Nah, I already did some writing today. And then I read what I wrote.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Yay! Good for you. Can I see it?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' It's right over there. Check it out!

''{Homestar looks at the left wall. The camera view changes to show that "Cool tapes" is roughly written on the wall.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{offscreen}'' Why did you write "Cool tapes" on my wall?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Uh, hello? ''{Cut back to the couch. Marzipan and Homestar both look annoyed.}'' Maybe because I like cool tapes?

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, I hope you like "cool" painting, because this has got to go.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{imitating a trombone}'' Mwah, bwah, bwahhhh.

''{Cut to Bubs' Concession Stand. Bubs is inside, looking bored. Three cans of "yella paint" are stacked next to him. Homestar walks up to the stand.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Say there, old Bubs! I need three cans of yella paint, and one pair of cool shades.

'''BUBS:''' Sorry, customer, I'm closed.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' But you're standing right there. And I see the yella paint right next to you.

'''BUBS:''' But I'm closed! Cutbacks, layoffs, downsizing, you know the drill.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{He looks over his shoulder, then looks back at Bubs.}'' Hey, Bubs, can you steal three cans of yella paint for me?

'''BUBS:''' I never pass up a chance to stick it to the man! Here you go! ''{He gives the cans of paint to Homestar.}'' I slipped the cool shades in the can number two.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Thanks, Bubs. Power to the people!

'''BUBS:''' I heard that!

''{Cut to Homestar's silhouette walking away from the stand. We then cut to a close-up of Homestar walking in the field.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' I think I'm gonna bust out my new cool shades. ''{He kneels down, opens one of the paint cans, and pulls out a pair of [[Homestar's Shades|cool shades]] that are completely covered in paint. He puts them on.}'' Coool! Everything's yellow and drippy.

''{Strong Sad enters.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Hey, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, hello, Dripping Yellow Madness!

'''STRONG SAD:''' What? I'm Strong Sad! Dripping Yellow Madness moved away after fifth grade!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Look, I'd love to stay and argue that you are in fact Dripping Yellow Madness, but this paint and I ''{He kicks one of the cans of paint}'' have a date with a wall!

'''STRONG SAD:''' I wish I had a date with a wall.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Go for it! Here. ''{He gives the paint cans to Strong Sad}'' You'll need these.

'''STRONG SAD:''' Oh!

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' And, uh, good luck tonight.

''{He makes a clicking sound with his mouth, then walks off. He lands in a small hole. There is a sign next to it that says "death hole" in Strong Bad's handwriting. Homestar screams while falling in and continues to scream after he's stopped falling. He's standing in a hole up to his neck.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{gradually getting quieter}'' Aaaaaaaaaaah...I'm at the bottom of a giant piiiit...

'''STRONG SAD:''' Homestar, take off those stupid cool shades.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Yeah, I should probably return these things.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{walking offscreen, singing}'' Oh, getting lucky tonight...

''{Paint runs down the screen. When it is gone, we see a close-up of Homestar, still wearing the cool shades.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Hey, friend. Lemme get my money back for these cool shades.

''{The camera pulls back to reveal Homestar standing a bit too far away from Bubs' Concession Stand. Bubs is inside, and there's a banner on the stand that says "UNDER OLD MANAGEMENT!!"}''

'''BUBS:''' Little bit closer, Homestar.

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh. ''{He walks closer, and walks past Bubs a bit. Bubs moves in front of him.}'' Lemme get my money back for these cool shades.

'''BUBS:''' Sure! You got your receipt?

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Um, no. ''{He takes off his shades.}'' The sales representative I dealt with gave them to me...free of charge. I believe...his name was Stan.

'''BUBS:''' Stan?! I fired that guy after the fifth grade! Without a receipt, I can only exchange them for something of lesser or much lesser value. And the only thing that qualifies is this! ''{He holds up a bag with four grapes in it.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{He takes the bag}'' These'll do! These'll do juuust fine!

''{Cut to Homestar's silhouette walking away from the stand. The sun is lower than before, and the sky is a purplish color. Cut to a view of Homestar walking into Marzipan's house, then cut to Marzipan's living room, where Marzipan, Strong Mad and The Cheat are standing in front of the wall with "Cool Tapes" written on it. Strong Mad has an electric bass, The Cheat has a drum kit, and Marzipan has [[Carol]].}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' All right, boys. From the top. ''{Homestar's silhouette appears in the foreground.}'' One, two—

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' What in— ''{Cut to a close-up of Homestar's face. He looks angry.}'' —Pete Sampras is going on here?!

''{cut to a close-up of Marzipan's face.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, you took too long, so Strong Mad, and The Cheat and I formed a band called Cool Tapes. ''{She smiles sheepishly.}''

''{Cut back to a still-angry Homestar.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' Oh, really?! What kind of...music do you play?!

''{Cut to a wide shot of Marzipan, Strong Mad and The Cheat.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' Well, here, we'll show you. We only have one song so far, and it's not quite finished, but here goes. Ready, boys?

''{Strong Mad, The Cheat and Marzipan all play their instruments.}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' One, two, three four!

''{singing}'' 
''Cool tapes are cool, 'cause they're where it is at,'' 
''Cool tapes are cool, and we like it like that!'' 
''Cool tapes! Cool tapes!'' 
''We like to get it down with the cool, cool tapes,'' 
''We like to get down with'' ...um... ''{the music stops}'' um...

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' A bag of four grapes?

'''MARZIPAN:''' ''{music starts again, singing} A bag of four grapes!''

''{We hear an audience cheering. Homestar pops up from the bottom of the screen and shakes the bag. A cassette tape appears in the foreground that reads "THE END." Homestar peeks through one of the holes in the cassette.}''

== Easter Eggs ==
* Click on "THE" on the cassette at the end to see a conversation with Strong Bad and The Cheat.
''{Strong Bad is lying on the couch in his basement, watching TV.}''

'''TV:''' ...same truck that tried to kill my dad!

''{The Cheat enters, carrying his drumsticks.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Hey, The Cheat. We catch anything in the Death Hole today?

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{Makes The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' What? There's no way he could've been in there. He moved away after fifth grade!

* Click on "END" on the cassette at the end to see a T-shirt for [[Cool Tapes]].

== Fun Facts ==

===Explanations===
*A [[Wikipedia:Novella|novella]] is a work of fiction intermediate in length and complexity between a short story and a novel.

===Trivia===
*The crowd cheering sound effect is taken from the end of [[Everybody to the Limit (Live)]].

===Remarks===
*This is the first time Marzipan's teeth are shown.
*None of the paint remains on Homestar's face after he removes the cool shades.
*Paint appears to drip from Homestar's glasses into his mouth.
*The tape at the end is the same shade of yellow as the yellow highlights that appear around buttons when the Tab key is pressed, slightly obscuring the Easter egg highlight over "The" and completely obscuring the highlight over "End." Since the tape was grey during the song, this may have been intentional.
*Carol looks like a classical guitar, but is apparently an electric-acoustic guitar, capable of producing a distorted tone.

===Goofs===
*When Marzipan closes her eyes and sings "...a bag of four graaaaapes!", you can see her closed eyes distort for a brief moment. This is because she and Homestar always blink every three seconds, and with her eyes closed, she attempts to blink over her closed eyes. The effect can also be observed if the toon is paused while her eyes are closed.
*The amp that is behind Marzipan when she's about to play her song disappears in the next scene.
*The phrase "Cool Tapes" changes position slightly during the toon. To see this better, focus on the bottom of the "p" in "Tapes" and the lighter part of the yellow wall.
*When Homestar goes to return his cool shades to Bubs, in the second wide shot, Homestar is suddenly standing to the left of where he was in the first wide shot.
*With the Yella Shades on, the paint drips off the lens over his right eye, but the drops fall in front of the left side of the mouth.
*When Homestar is returning the Yella Shades at the concession stand, the paint suddenly stops dripping between the close-up and the wide shot.
*As he walks back from Bubs' with the bag of four grapes, Homestar's walkcycle doesn't quite fit the speed at which he is walking.
*After the scene with Marzipan singing in front of the blue and red tapes, the Cheat's drumming is one beat off, that is, he is hitting the snare drum when he should be hitting the bass drum and vice-versa.

===Inside References===
*The show Strong Bad is watching is the "killer truck" show The Cheat watched in [[privileges]].
*The amps that Marzipan plays through are from [[different town]].
*Strong Mad playing the bass was mentioned in [[guitar]], but this is the first time we've actually seen it.
*Strong Sad patting his belly makes the same dodgeball noise it made in [[modeling]].
*Strong Sad mentions that he likes to talk to walls in his [[Strong Sad#Character Video Transcript|character video]].
*"Stick it to the man" and "Cool glasses" are mentioned in the [[The theme from DANGERESQUE II: This time, it's not Dangeresque I|Dangeresque 2 Theme Song]].

===Real-World References===
*The title of the page, "Sittin' with a kitty," is a lyric from the [[Wikipedia:Sonic Youth|Sonic Youth]] song "[http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/sy/song88.html Kool Thing]."
*[[Wikipedia:Pete_Sampras|Pete Sampras]] is a retired professional tennis player.
*"Stick it to the Man" and "Power to the People" were common phrases used during the Student Protests in the 1960s and '70s.
*Strong Mad's bass is the same shape as a [[Wikipedia:Hofner|Hofner]] 500/1 [http://www.edromanguitars.com/guitar/hofner/hof_models/hof_basses.htm violin bass], the same kind [[Wikipedia:Paul_McCartney|Paul McCartney]] plays.
*The amplifiers that they play with very closely resemble [[Wikipedia:Marshall_Amplifiers|Marshall Amps]].

== External Links ==
*[[HR:coolthings.html|watch "Cool Things"]]
*[[HR:coolthings.swf|view the Flash file for "Cool Things"]]
*[[Forum:4531|forum thread re: "Cool Things"]]

[[Category: Toons]]

Stinkomanual

2005-05-24T23:32:49Z

Meneth: /* External Links */ removed "not updated" message

== Stinkomanual ==
[[Image:stinkomanual.png|thumb|Check out my new gameplay!]]

STINKOMAN
20X6

Instruction
Stinkomanual Videlectrix

'''Welcome to Stinkoman GAME!'''
Stinkoman is trying very hard to win this exciting challenge! Only YOU can help him. Keep striving until you REACH YOUR GOALS or you'll be stuck with the same dead end friends you've had since HIGH SCHOOL. This game will prove a challenge...

''...but can you prove it back?!?!''

'''The Story'''
STINKOMAN and his pals 1-UP and PAN PAN live on Planet K in the year 20X6. This game is all about that. Don't expect any weepy princess crap, this is a STINKOMAN game! Or at least it was last time we checked! Maybe fighting? Maybe challenge?
THE CHOICE IS OURS!!

'''The Controls'''
This game keeps using ARROW KEYS to move Stinkoman around. It won't stop making him JUMP with the A key or SHOOT with the S key, either. You won't find this kind of quality in other countries!!

===Level 1 - Go Home!===

Stinkoman fighted a challenge and WINS! Help him get back home for some fave treats.

'''JARO''' - A bouncing cup, Jaro will hop around until he's punded you down!

'''GREGGO''' - This robot will become indestructible if you stare at him. Shoot, jive, GET OUTTA THE WAY!

'''POORU-POORU''' - This punk cucumber is no cactus! Land on one and it's DOINK for you!

'''CHORCH''' - A flying mecha with pinching fingers, Chorch will make you wish you were never even born!!

'''BROWNTANT''' - This little robot is no mecha. He'll shoot you down with his mecha antenna! Takes a lickin!

====Boss 1 - TAMPO====

Tampo is as mean as he is delicious! Stinkoman already beat Tampo before you started playing the game only now his brain has decided to get revenge! Dodge his attacks and shoot him or you'll never amount to anything

''"I wish I still had a lungs!"
-Tampo '89''

===Level 2 - Pick a Bone!===

Stinkoman found a chicken bone in his dumpling soup. Battle throughout the kitchen for revenge!

'''TERRELL''' - A baby chick with no body? That's freaky. Blast em up Dan!

'''ROSE BLAKE''' - A 'Lectric burner with a taste for human flesh!

'''KOLKARYU''' - A UFO that zips in and is always shooting at you. I honestly don't think you can kill it.

'''GRUNDY''' - A jogging chicken? That has to be a bold faced lie.

'''LUNDSFORD''' - Natural gas is the name of the game when Lundsford is in town. Learn his habits, have him followed, hunt down his family.

'''STOBAT''' - The fattest chicken plays fly, hocking up old bones. Stay outta range and BLAMMO: Stobat tenders.

'''OLD SAGE''' - These are sharp tips! They'll kill ya dead! DEAD I SAY!

'''TORTAN''' - Tortan is a drippy bottle of poisonous Tortan. Don't drink! Is no good for you!

''"I am waiting a good while for you to help me win this game! What's the hold up? Help me out already!"
-Stinkoman''

====Boss 2 - Brody====

Brody is stompin' mad! Keep from squished, ya know? Shoot him in the eye when he tries to come in for the kill. You're not chicken, are you?

''"My feet are orange feet."
-BRODY, FL''

===Level 3 - Up 'n Down===

Stinkoman goes up, up, up and then down, down
down

'''CLOWDER''' - Steer clear of this crotchety old cloud. He won't die and doesn't say hello.

'''MR. UBBERS''' - A rain drop that releases golden nuggets when punched. Go for the GOLD!

Stinkoman loves BREAD, but boy does he hate SOAP, APPLES, EARS and P's.
Falling from the skies and bove.

1 BREAD results in 1 ITEM POINT! SOAP, APPLES, EARS, and P's result in minus 1 ITEM POINT!

EVASIVE ACTION!!

====Boss 3 - Stlunko====

Stlunko gonna pound you!! Shoot the wall on top of Stlunko's head to send him packing. His fists hurt you, but you can't hurt thems.

''"Stlunko need a reason to live"
-Stlunko, 404''

===Level 4 - Fisticuff!===

Use some giant hand to protect 1up the extra man!

'''POORBT''' - Man! 'Poorbt' is hard to say! This guy shoots straight from the fist.

'''GOKUL''' - Dear Throbbing Mass, If you gotta go, gokul.

'''GASPEAU''' - Gaspeau flies in like a lion and out like Gaspeau!

'''PINK CHAM CHAM''' - STAY AWAY FROM CHAM CHAM! He's rolled in coconut and highly delicious.

'''FROTZER''' - If you think Frotzer is different from Gaspeau, that's okay.

'''1UP''' - Apparently you've gotta save this guy. (No, there aren't five of them in real life! Jeez! Quit writing already!)

====Boss 4 - Saargtsson====

Saargtsson rarely plays fair. He'll often employ the help of his firey hot friend, Firey-Hot. Smash his tail bit by bit by bit by bit until he doesn't have a head to stand on. Watch out for those fierce laser blasts and you'll be sure to have a blast with Saargtsson.

(GRAPHICS TOO AWESOME TO BE DEPICTED)

''"Saargtsson is an equal opportunity employer." Saargtsson-Bosch, GmbH''

===Level 5 - Oh the Moon!===
1up takes matters into this own, um, torso!

'''ASTROMUND''' - This little astro style mund has a shield that can't be beat! Or maybe it's a trashcan lid.

'''THE BENDINI SISTERS''' - This family of asteroids are meteors! Hit the breaks when you feel them comin in the air tonight. Hold on!

'''DOWNTANT''' - This guy thinks you killed his Browntant cousin. Well, DID YOU?!?! Better think twice, or pay the price. UPTANT sold seperately.

'''PIEDMONT''' - At least little Piedmont knows how to keep a guy laughing. This little comedian scans for intruders and open mic nights with a hot fry lamp!

====Boss 5 - Nebulon====
Nebulon's been working out and it shows. He's had it with scenes and cliques. He's ready to be accepted for WHO HE IS!!

''"Another green salad, another iced tea..." -Nebulon''

===Level 6 - Stratosfear!===
Stinkoman is back in style and vacationing in the clouds where he can challenge all the plugs and saws he wants! Is it getting warmer in hear?!?

'''PORCHI''' - This round-about lives inside the clouds, waiting for the perfect opportunity to make his IPO. Incision Puncture OUCH! Yeah, he's invincible.

'''STAFULTER''' - Man, can't you kill ANYTHING on this level? This flying plug-duck saunters around like it's goin outta style!

'''POSTLETHWAITE''' - A gloomy, dark cloud, ol' P-thwaite is real jealous of the pink clouds and zaps them to and fro! Don't get caught in the middle of this domestic cloud-spute!!

'''PROTEK''' - Watch out for the 3-pronged, 2-prong attack! Take out his cord first, then go for the face!

'''HASH-HAW''' - What kind of a name is Hash-haw for anyone to have anyway? Time your jumps! Take your lumps!

====Boss 6 - The Liekand====
You will probably not be able to beat this guy. I'm sorry. He is a truly great warrior with firm resolve and sweet shades. And I mean, come on, he shoots bubbles. BUBBLES!

''"Fashion first, ask sections later." -The Liekand''

===Giving Up Already?!===

Stinkoman must be ashamed of you! Get back in the game and try out these rules and hints!!

*play the game every day, even after mom says no 
*new and exciting recipes 
*hold B 
*ask your parents 
*walk and talk 
*table the label! wear your own brand!

== See also ==
*[[Stinkoman 20X6]]

== Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*[[Wikipedia:Gmbh|GmbH]] is the German acronym for "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung", literally translating into "Company with limited liability".

===Real-World References===
*The description of the Bendini Sisters refers to the [[Wikipedia:Phil Collins|Phil Collins]] song "[http://www.philcollins.co.uk/air.htm In the Air Tonight]."

== External Links ==
* [[HR:stinkogame/v4/externalSwf/stinkomanual.swf|See the Stinkoman 20X6 manual (flash file)]] 

[[Category:Stinkoman 20X6]]

HRWiki:Why create an account?

2005-05-20T22:33:33Z

Meneth: /* Reputation and privacy */ This is not Wikipedia.

You do not have to [[Special:Userlogin|log in]] to read the Homestar Runner Wiki. You don't even have to log in to edit articles — ''anyone'' can edit [[HRWiki:Protected page|almost]] any article, even without logging in. Nevertheless, creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, and it's generally considered a good idea to do so, for a variety of reasons.

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PhoneTime XL8

2005-05-04T09:53:33Z

Meneth: fixed tempus

[[Image:Marzipans_Answering_Machine.png|thumb|right|220px|New! The PhoneTime XL8, from... PhoneTime.]]

The '''PhoneTime XL8''' is [[Marzipan]]'s current answering machine. It first appeared in [[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 9.2]]. This new machine is functionally the same as the previous model, but rather than the faux wood case, this sports a nice, black finish.

[[Strong Bad]] managed to leave a prank call on this machine from prison using a can and some string in [[Strong Bad is in Jail Cartoon]].

[[Strong Bad]] tried to sell it back to [[Marzipan]] in the e-mail [[garage sale]]. Marzipan wasn't too happy about that.

{{stub}}

[[Category:Electronics]]

Stinkoman 20X6

2005-03-23T16:34:55Z

Meneth: /* Trivia */

[[Image:stinkogame.png|thumb|Stinkoman runs right]]
[[Image:stinkobox.png|thumb|Stinkoman 20X6 box art]]

''Blue hair, anyone? Stinkoman's always got fightings and challenges to keep him busy. Jump and shoot your way to all ends of Planet K. End Boss feature!!'' --[[Videlectrix]] description

'''Stinkoman 20X6'''
is a side-scrolling platformer game which stars [[Stinkoman]].

[[The Brothers Chaps]] showed it off at [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|their talk at NYU]] before it was released. This game seems to be based on the [[Wikipedia:Mega Man Classic|classic Capcom ''Mega Man'' series]]. It also parodies the poor "Japanese to English" translations (a.k.a. "[[Wikipedia:Engrish|Engrish]]") common to video games of that era, similar to those that appear on the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu|current Games Menu]].

Below is the text that appears in the introduction sequence:
<pre>
On Planet K, Stinkoman is always
looking for a fighting or a challenge.
In 20X6, he can usually find one!
</pre>

== Stinkomanual ==
STINKOMAN
20X6

Instruction
Stinkomanual Videlectrix

'''Welcome to Stinkoman GAME!'''
Stinkoman is trying very hard to win this exciting challenge! Only YOU can help him. Keep striving until you REACH YOUR GOALS or you'll be stuck with the same dead end friends you've had since HIGH SCHOOL. This game will prove a challenge...

''...but can you prove it back?!?!''

'''The Story'''
STINKOMAN and his pals 1-UP and PAN PAN live on Planet K in the year 20X6. This game is all about that. Don't expect any weepy princess crap, this is a STINKOMAN game! Or at least it was last time we checked! Maybe fighting? Maybe challenge?
THE CHOICE IS OURS!!

'''The Controls'''
This game keeps using ARROW KEYS to move Stinkoman around. It won't stop making him JUMP with the A key or SHOOT with the S key, either. You won't find this kind of quality in other countries!!

'''Level 1 - Go Home!'''

Stinkoman fighted a challenge and WINS! Help him get back home for some face treats.

JARO - A bouncing cup, Jaro will hop around until he's punded you down!

GREGGO - This robot will become indestructible if you stare at him. Shoot, jive, GET OUTTA THE WAY!

POORU-POORU - This punk cucumber is no cactus! Land on one and it's DOINK for you!

CHORCH - A flying mecha with pinching fingers, Chorch will make you wish you were never even born!!

BROWNTANT - This little robot is no mecha. He'll shoot you down with his mecha antenna! Takes a lickin!

'''Boss 1 - TAMPO'''

Tampo is as mean as he is delicious! Stinkoman already beat Tampo before you started playing the game only now his brain has decided to get revenge! Dodge his attacks and shoot him or yo'll never amount to anything

''"I wish I still had a lungs!"
-Tampo '89''

'''Level 2 - Pick a Bone!'''

Stinkoman found a chicken bone in his dumpling soup. Battle throughout the kitchen for revenge!

TERRELL - A baby chick with no body? That's freaky. Blast em up Dan!

ROSE BLAKE - A 'Lectric burner with a taste for human flesh!

KOLKARYU - A UFO that zips in and is always shooting at you. I honestly don't think you can kill it.

GRUNDY - A jogging chicken? That has to be a bold faced lie.

LUNDSFORD - Natural gas is the name of the game when Lundsford is in town. Learn his habits, have him followed, hunt down his family.

STOBAT - The fattest chicken plays fly, hocking up old bones. Stay outta range and BLAMMO: Stobat tenders.

OLD SAGE - These are sharp tips! They'll kill ya dead! DEAD I SAY!

TORTAN - Tortan is a drippy bottle of poisonous Tortan. Don't drink! Is no good for you!

''"I am waiting a good while for you to help me win this game! What's the hold up? Help me out already!"
-Stinkoman''

'''Boss 2 - Brody'''

Brody is stompin' mad! Keep from squished, ya know? Shoot him in the eye when he tries to come in for the kill. You're not chicken, are you?

''"My feet are orange feet."
-BRODY, FL''

'''Level 3 - Up 'n Down'''

Stinkoman goes up, up, up and then down, down
down

CLOWDER - Steer clear of this crotchety old cloud. He won't die and doesn't say hello.

MR. UBBERS - A rain drop that releases golden nuggets when punched. Go for the GOLD!

'''Level 3 - Up 'n Down'''

Stinkoman loves BREAD, but boy does he hate SOAP, APPLES, EARS and P's.
Falling from the skies and bove.

1 BREAD results in 1 ITEM POINT! SOAP, APPLES, EARS, and P's result in minus 1 ITEM POINT!

EVASIVE ACTION!!

'''Boss 3 - Stlunko'''

Stlunko gonna pound you!! Shoot the wall on top of Stlunko's head to send him packing. His fists hurt you, but you can't hurt thems.

''"Stlunko need a reason to live"
-Stlunko, 404''

'''Giving Up Already?!'''

Stinkoman must be ashamed of you! Get back in the game and try out these rules and hints!!

- play the game every day, even after mom says no 
- new and exciting recipes 
- hold B 
- ask your parents 
- walk and talk 
- table the label! wear your own brand!

== Easter Eggs ==
* Hover your mouse below "Controls" on the main menu to access the Instruction Booklet.
* Wait long enough at the title screen to see an intro cinematic.
* Let Stinkoman stand still in the game for a few seconds and he'll start yawning.
* In the first level, before you reach your first gray wall, there is a short cut under the first Browntant.
* [[Stinkoman 20X6 Hidden Items]]

== Bosses ==
* Tampo - Tampo's weak point is the darker colored, lower part of the brain. You can only hit it when it comes near the ground, and you'll need to jump. It starts by coming to the lower right. Stand just in range and shoot it, but make sure you're on the ground when his shots reach you, they shouldn't come close. He will then float to the top-right. You want to be closer to the left edge of the screen to be able to jump this shot. Now run to the right, about mid-screen. Tampo will do the exact same thing on the left, then will return and repeat.
* Brody - Brody tries to stomp you with her feet, but eventually she'll try to peck you with her head. Just shoot Brody's head when it appears. Brody takes 5 hits to kill.
* Stlunko - Stinkoman will ride a conveyor belt on Stlunko with a Pooru-Pooru at each end. while it tries to pound him with its fists. You must shoot at the wall on his head until all of the sections of the wall have been destroyed.

== Fun Facts ==

=== Trivia ===
* This game is the first official mention of the 20X6 version of Homestar Runner's actual name, 1-Up.
* This is the first time we have seen Stinkoman's house, or any 20X6 character's house, for that matter.
* According to the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[time capsule]], it would seem that Planet K is Earth in the future.
* Planet K is in the Year 20X6, where gas stoves would have gone out of everyday life, yet some can be seen in stage 2.
*This is also the first complete platform game that [[The Brothers Chaps]] and co. have ever made. ([[Super Kingio Brothers]] was meant as a joke and was impossible to play past the first enemy)

=== Remarks ===
* There is a hidden energy capsule right before the end of the 1st level. Stand at the top of the triangular set of platforms and then jump up to a hidden platform and jump again.
* In the bottom right-hand corner of the PLAY GAME! screen it says "V1.X EPISODES 1-3", possibly hinting at a sequel.
* When you beat the game it will say "MORE LEVELS TO COME!"
* When you beat the final boss, Stinkoman says he got a power-up and puts on the stone fist, showing an almost 100% chance for more levels!
* The creators of Stinkoman 20X6 are poking fun at the 'all your base are belong to us' type language goofs in the stereotypical English port of a Japanese game.

=== Goofs ===

* To get energy pills that are hiding behind enemies without having to kill the enemy, run into the enemy with health to spare. You will take damage, grab the pill and will be invincible long enough to escape unharmed.
* This game doesn't feature the regular links at the bottom of the screen to move to other parts of the website.
* The manual has Kolkaryu listed under level 2, but Kolkaryu already appears in level 1.
*Greggo will not stop or become indestructable unless you are parallel to him.

=== Glitches ===
* When the game was first released, you could skip (press space or click) the first part of the final movie (any part before the MORE LEVELS TO COME SCENE) to enter stage 3.4: A small buggy world of cliffs and cacti.
**This glitch is now fixed.
* When you run right and jump, you will flip as if you were running left and jumping.
* If you fall long enough and don't touch anything, Stinkoman will stop doing his falling pose and act like he's standing and will even start to yawn. Such a long fall can be found in stage 2.2.
* You can float in mid-air on level 1.1 if a Browntant hits you while you’re falling against the gray pole close to the beginning.
* If you jump at the right time after killing a boss, you can do your victory pose in midair.
* If you die right after killing a boss, you start the next level with 0 hp
** Alternately, if you die with only one life left after defeating a boss, the usual "die" sequence will happen, but then Stinkoman will do his victory dance with no ground beneath him and you will start the next stage with no lives, which will increase by one life and the "Game Over" screen will appear the next time he dies in the next stage.
* Sometimes you can start up a new game and it will be nothing but Stinkoman and the background. Since there's no ground, you can only fall and die. This may be linked to older versions of Flash.
** A possible reason that this happens is because earlier versions of Flash may not be able to read the levelData xml files. For more information on these files, please see the talk page.
* The auto save feature does not seem to work, even with cookies enabled. I'm sure someone can mention exactly what cookie I must be blocking so we can delete this note?

=== Inside References ===
* "Check out my new gameplay!" is a reference to Stinkoman's quote "Check out my new cosplay!" in [[3 Times Halloween Funjob]].
* This is the second appearance of Strong Bad's green tongue. In the "Game Over" screen, Stinkoman's green tongue is shown. It also appeared in [[Super NES]].
**Although Stinkoman's tongue is red or pink all other times you see it in the game.
***The green color of Stinkoman's tongue may be due to the fact that he has a "stummyache"
* The nuggets in Level 3.1 are a reference to [[Strong Bad|Strong Bad's]] Character Video.
* Level 3.2 reveals that Stinkoman hates apples, just as Strong Bad does in [[The House that Gave Sucky Treats]]
* The health-restoring pills are a reference to the Strong Bad E-Mail [[time capsule]].
**They are also a reference to the [[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]], where you can get similar capsules to change your ship.
* Grundy's illustration in the manual shows him running in a manner similar to a certain [[Homestar Runner|no-armed athlete]].
* Stlunko, the level 3 boss, has a striking resemblance to the [[Visor Robot]].
*The Rose Blake's description in the manual as a "'Lectric burner" is a reference to the email [[extra plug]], where Strong Bad gets 'Lectric boots.
*"Blast em up Dan!" is a reference to "Fire em up Dan" as seen in [[Peasant's Quest]] and "fry 'em up Dan" as seen in [[TROGDOR!]].
*The sentence in the manual, "Falling from the skies and bove", is a reference to [[That Time of Year]].

=== Real-World References ===
* The sprites used for Stinkoman are patterned after 8-bit ''Mega Man'' sprites.
** In fact, the poses of the white silhouette in the logo are taken directly front the NES ''Mega Man'' series.
**The sounds of the text appearing in the cinematics are also the same as in ''Mega Man''.
** In ''Megaman V'' there is a chicken robot similar to the chickens encountered in level 2.
* When all three characters flash onto the screen during the intro, that is also a ''Mega Man'' reference, where in one of the arcade games (''The Power Battle'') Mega Man, Proto Man, and Bass would flash onto the screen in a similar way.
* The cinematic sequences may be an extended reference to the ''Ninja Gaiden'' series for the NES.
:"Mans" instead of lives is a reference to some other NES game I can't remember. Other Videlectrix games use "Mans" to refer to lives.
* Stlunko, 404 is a reference to the 404 error that browsers give when a webpage cannot be found.
* Stlunko, the final boss, could very well be modeled after the final boss in the ''Donkey Kong'' game for Game Boy, in which you fight a giant version of Donkey Kong who uses two hands to smash you in a manner very similar to Stlunko. He also could be modeled after Gamma, the giant robot and final boss in Mega Man 3. Or the final Boss at the end of Wario World 3.
* The illustrations in the manual and the names of the enemies are similar in style to those found in Sega Master System game manuals.
* Hold B is a reference to ''Super Mario Bros'' and a few other Nintendo games where if you held down B, you would run faster. It seems to do nothing in this game, though.
** It may mean hold S (which in this case is like a B button), which allows you to rapid fire.
* Stinkoman doing a forward flip may be a reference to the ''Metroid'' series, where Samus does very similar flips.
* The fading blue boxes around Stinkoman's face on the title screen are a reference to large NES sprites, which sometimes had a similar problem.
* The first boss, Tampo, may be a reference to the final boss of ''Star Fox 64'', which was the giant, floating brain of the enemy, in which it had the same weak point (medulla).
* The dropping platforms are a reference to the original ''Mega Man'', in which similar platforms were found in the Guts Man stage.
* Stinkoman's becoming bored when idle is an old gag first found in ''[[Wikipedia:Sonic the Hedgehog (Genesis)|Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' and emulated in countless other titles.
* Greggo, the robot enemy that only moves when you're not facing it, is similar to the Boo enemies from the Super Mario Brothers games.
* Brody looks similar to Big Bird from Sesame Street.
* The phrase "Table the Label" is from a hilariously bad motivational video hosted by Mr. T called "[http://www.agonybooth.com/mr_t/ Be Somebody or be Somebody's Fool!]"
* The manual mentioning this game has no "weepy princess crap" is a reference to the Mario series and a few other games where you had to rescue a helpless princess.
* When Stinkoman defeats Tampo's robot body in the first cinematic scene, Tampo's robot body dies like the bosses from the video game Contra.
* The name, Tampo may be a reference to a Japanese kind of fried food (Tempura). Or even Tempo, the speed of music.
* The explosions of the enemy are a reference to either Double Dragon or Ninja Turtles, both NES games.
* Stinkoman's power-up could be a reference to an episode of ''Super Robot Monkey Team HyperForce Go!'', in which Lord Scrapperton steals Sparks' magnetic hands and replaces them with ugly gray human hands.
*Only 3 of Stinkoman's flying fists can be on the screen at the same time. In the ''Mega Man'' series, Mega Man's bullets also suffer from the same drawbacks.

== External Links ==
* [[HR:stinkogame/stinkogame.html|Play Stinkoman 20X6]]
* [[HR:stinkogame/stinkogame.swf|Play the Game (flash file)]]
[[Category:Videlectrix Games]][[Category:20X6]]

Talk:NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005

2005-03-17T16:30:22Z

Meneth: Collected the video sections.

==Wowzers==
I'll be personally attending this event tomorrow. And I'll be taking photos galore. If anyone is interested, the Kimmel Building is located at [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=60%20Washington%20Square%20South%20New%20York%2C%20NY&spn=0.022736%2C0.039312 60 Washington Square South]. I'm very, very, very excited. Does anyone else plan to attend? Perhaps we could meet or something.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:10, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:You should bring a video camera with you, so we can possibly do a transcript. That would be sweet.
:I wish I could go, but sadly, I cannot. It would rock to meet you, though. :) →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

Oh man! I wish I could go. I only live 40 minutes away from the city, but I have my theater group! (That's fun too.) I '''second''' on the idea about video taping it for the transcript (as long is it's okay.) I wonder if you'll get to meet TBC!!! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:22, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Additional info==
I was able to find some additional info [http://www.nyu.edu/ticketcentral/events.html here]:
<center><pre>Program Board Presents:
A DATE WITH HOMESTAR RUNNER
Tuesday, 3/1, doors at 5:45pm
Kimmel Center, Shorin Performance Studio, 8th Floor

A Date With Homestar Runner is a presentation by the Chapp
brothers & their video guy Ryan. There will be an awesome
puppet video shot around campus, your favorite cartoons and a
Q&A.

On Sale NOW at Ticket Central!
Tickets $3 with NYU ID, $4 with gov’t issued ID.
Must have NYU ID to obtain 'advance' tickets at Ticket Central.
Limit 2 'advance' tickets per NYU ID. </pre></center>
So yeah, I'm stoked.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:46, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I sure wish I could go. Bring a video camera! →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:Who are the "Chapp brothers"?? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:38, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Update ==

Okay dudes, here's the scoop. After quite an adventure today, I managed to collect a whole bunch of video and some photos. I'll be doing my best to convert and upload the video so that you all can view and transcribe it. I learned quite a bit today, and I know you are all going to ''love'' the video. I'll keep you posted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Ooh... I can't wait. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:How did you get the video? Did you watch the show?? →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah man, I managed to buy two ticket stubs from some guy. (He was somehow able to get back in with his NYU ID, and I was able to get in with the stubs.) I paid quite a pretty penny too. But I'd have to say it's the [[Best/Worst X bucks I ever spent|best forty bucks I ever spent]]![[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Ooooh!!! *steams* I want ticket stubs! I WANT TICKET STUBS!! →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

I'm all tingly! Good work Tom. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

:As am I. Not just good work -''awesome'' work. Awesome work, Tom. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Thanks guys, but just wait until you see this thing! It's totally cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Can't wait for the video! Totally cool, eh Steve..er, Tom? So "totally cool that we don't even know it's totally cool" kind of cool? http://forum.hrwiki.org/images/smiles/icon_mrgreen.gif --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 09:23, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Introduction: Doing a very crappy job ==

I'm sure that this summary will ultimately be replaced by a more accurate chronology of events and even a transcript. But for the time being, I went ahead and partially re-wrote the following:

<pre>Matt and Mike did a very crappy job introducing themselves and instead opted...</pre>

Feel free to change it back to how it is above. I just prefer not to use such slang (e.g., "crappy") - just trying to reduce the use of the colloquial in the article. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:44, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Video and write-up ==

Okay, here we go:
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/2005/03/06/the-brothers-chaps-at-nyu/ My write-up]
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/images/TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent Download the video] (torrent for 1.66 GB avi)
[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:14, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Video's not working. Tips? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]
::Yeah, All it's showing is a bunch of (seemingly) random symbols. What's a torrent anyways? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:26, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::That's a third strike from my try too. And I was so looking forward to the video too! I want to see the bouncing eggs! Oh well, I'm sure [[User:Tom|the man with the plan]] will find a way... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 21:33, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Oops. Okay, since neither the Wiki nor I have infinite bandwidth to spare, I've decided to user the [[WIkipedia:BitTorrent|BitTorrent]] protocol to distribute this file. Simply put, it works like this:
:#I have a big AVI file on my computer.
:#I create a special ".torrent" file for this AVI.
:#I upload the torrent file to my server and link to it from my web page.
:#You download this torrent file.
:#Your torrent handling program takes this file and uses it to contact my torrent handling program.
:#You start downloading the file from me. As you download, you also upload to others downloading.
::Yeah, not the best explanation, but everything you need should be in that Wikipedia article. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:02, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Which Torrent handler do you recomend? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:07, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I use [[Wikipedia:BitComet|BitComet]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:21, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Thanks a lot for making the video. Now for the problems: I've noticed that the torrent uses the UDP tracker protocol extension, and thus is incompatible with most older (and some newer) clients. I also can't seem to connect to anyone except the seeder, and the download is excruciatingly slow, less than 1 kBps. At this rate, I estimate that it will take at least 19 days to complete. Am I the only downloader? - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 22:35, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Well, I'm the only uploader. Any suggestions?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Okay, I've never been much for computer problems being explained with bits, bytes, bandwidth and whatnot, so I'm hoping someone can help a layman (correct spelling?) like me. I downloaded the BitComet program, but what do I do now? I also downloaded the video file, which took about 10 seconds and came in as a Real Player file. So what do I have to do to acquire the actual video, or download it, or view it or whatnot? Thanks alot for getting it though Tom. At least it's out there... Somewhere... '''EDIT: Never mind, I think I got it figured out. It'll take a while, possibly days, right?'''
::Hmmmmm... It says the time remaining is 99:99:99. Any suggestions? (I think I got the same problem as [[User:Meneth|Meneth]]) [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 22:50, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::It sounds like your browser thought the ".avi.torrent" file was some other file. I'm guessing you renamed it "TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent" so BitComet should was able to open it. And yeah, it's going to take a long time. But the more people that download/upload, the faster it will go.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::This is going to take a long, long time. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah! After about 12 hours, I'm up to 1%!!! Only about a month and a half more, and it should be done! Oh well, better than nothing. At least I'll have something to look forwards to in the distant future... '''EDIT: 7:42 Pm another 12 hours later, and it's up to 1.1%. Maybe I should re-upgrade from 'Lite' Speed to 'Light' Speed...''' [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 11:44, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I spent about 5 minutes at it (at the moment, I've uploaded about 32KB and downloaded about 18MB) - So it seems like I'm getting the better deal, and it doesn't seem fair to other users - I'm sure that with more and more users connected, the rate at which we can download the file as a group will go up. I've seen the number of "Connected Peers" grow from four to eight (with a maximum of 14). So it looks encouraging. Just as the wiki is a collaborative effort - so is the idea of bit "torrenting" - Like [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]], I hope I can get past that 1%. My percentage of the 1.66GB AVI file seemed to rush quickly to 1% and then my transfer rate dropped to zero after that (and for quite some time I might add). --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 16:25, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::Update: Can any experienced torrent user (I'm using BitComet) explain why the following "one percent" situation is occuring? [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005.png view 1.0% screenshot here] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005_b.png 3 hours later - 1.1%] --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 20:51, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::That's because the swarm (the set of downloaders) has higher bandwidth than the uploader. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

Could you put the file up on the Gnutella network? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 20:19, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:That wouldn't be faster, unless you've limited your upload speed in BitComet. Come to think of it, a more likely explanation for the low speed (even a 28k modem should be faster) is that you have other torrents and/or p2p apps that hog your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm not running any other p2ps or other torrents. This 1kB/s stuff is killer. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

The torrent tracker seems to be down, is it just me? --[[User:tmbg37|tmbg37]] 20:55, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It's just you. Or your client, if it doesn't support the UDP tracking protocol. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I don't think the tracker is down, tmbg37. The tracker is on a delay but it has continued to function - at least for me anyway. I've been connected since 8:30PM yesterday and so far I see about 9 users connected and all of them have what I have - 3.5% of Tom's AVI file. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 10:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I'm sitting pretty on 4.3% myself, though it looks like everyone else is also around 4.3 or 4.2. Ugh... someone join the chat. I'm lonely. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:::I'm at 4.6% after 25 hours. Who-who. I guess this works great if you are the last person on the planet to download something and not one of the first 20 [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 23:15, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I've got a 4.8% chunk thus far (been connected for more than a day now). This torrent stuff is so...pretendous. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 22:41, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::I just realized it's somehow been off for the past day or so, since I rebooted the computer. Oh no, I've falled behind! I'm only at %4.1. I can't help but feel I'm caught up in some kind of Internet Dowloads pyramid scheme... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 18:08, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I'm at 5% and downloading pretty quickly-about 256 kb/s [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 08:36, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Now I'm near 13% and at 300 kb/s. [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 08:44, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm at 20%. Gosh, this thing's gonna take a while! [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 23:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

===Seed problems?===

Have we lost the seeder for the torrent? There's no reason it should be taking ''this'' long to download the file, and all the peers seem to have the same 3.5%. Torrents are only fast if different peers can obtain different parts of the file... (connected for 23 hours now on a T1 line, no other bandwidth hogs running)

:I'm still here, and I never shut off the computer or disconnect by my own will, so don't worry about that. Is there some way I can set the thing to upload faster?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:41, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
::Use BitComet's Preferences dialog. Under Connection, check the Global Max Upload Rate. Under Task, check the Maximum upload rate per task. You can also check the Task Specific Settings. If that doesn't help, use NetLimiter or a software firewall (I recommend Kerio Personal Firewall) to make sure that there aren't any other tasks taking up all your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

You could probably not use the torrent at all. You could split up the file into, say, 10 minute segments (or shorter, or longer.) Have that up for download. After a day (when almost everybody who wanted it had already gotten it) Upload the next segment, and repeat that process until everyone has everything. It will take long, but it won't be as complicated or annoying as this torrent stuff.

I also have another idea, but I'm not sure it'll work. Could you make the .AVI into a flash file? Would that make the file size smaller? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:03, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It could, but recoding the .avi with a smaller bitrate would have the same result. In both cases quality would suffer. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

===Encouraging Milestone===
"First and 10" - See [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/firstat10.png screenshot]. I shouldn't brag about being the first "leecher" to have 10%. This is, however, encouraging as I've been connected for about three days and have one tenth of the desired AVI file...at this rate, I see just about everyone drawing off Tom's 'seed' to have all 1.66GB in a month. Does that seem reasonable? ...Or will it (the rate) pick up? --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:26, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

===Gotta Break 4:40(%)===

...and we did! Nearly all of my peers are past 40%, and some are heading toward 50%. Despite having an ''Average Download Rate'' of 1 KB/s (on my machine, it say within 99h:99m:99s), it seems that the average rate of 3% a day has been blown away - at least that's what I've witnessed (as I had 19.5% of the file last night and now have 46.5%, quite a difference for just overnight!) Now, I know for sure that it won't take a month to see the treasure Tom recorded for us and himself - 20 minutes of Matt and Mike signing autographs until his camera's battery died and then what we believe to be the entirety of the performance - something to look forward to. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 22:18, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I'm 45.6, nearly half way. My estimite says about 17, 18 hours left, which'll be awsome if it's right. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 13:09, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

::60.1 now. Man, I can't wait until it's over. My bandwidth's getting murdered. Anything I try to download takes forever, so I've been putting off all of my other downloads. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 19:34, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::60.1 here, too. More than half way there! →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::::70.1% as of this morning. Too bad partially downloaded AVI cannot be viewed - otherwise I imagine the bulk of the transcript would have already been posted in the article. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 09:30, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

Actually, partial AVIs can be viewed using [http://videolan.org/vlc/ VLC]. However, it doesn't work very well with torrented files unless one has over 90% or so. I tried it just now and got only a few seconds. By the way, has the tracker stopped working for you? I can't connect to it, or any peers. [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 11:07, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Woah, you're right. I've got 72% and have watched about 15 mins so far. It's a bit choppy but great stuff. -Jonathan

::70%. Getting there... I haven't watched any of it though, wanna watch the whole thing in one big chunk... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 23:59, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

::: Well, I managed to watch an hour. I think it's all there, apart from many frames and bits of sound between bits already there. So I think you can watch it all but until more is downloaded it will be very choppy. -Jonathan

===Recompress?===
1.6 gigs is a little big for a video, I don't know how long the video is but it's pretty common to have 2+ hour movies at under 700 megs, so it would be much more convenient for most people to compress the video more. Just a thought ... ---JZ
: It's over 1 hour long. That's all I know. -Jonathan

User talk:Meneth

2005-03-16T20:37:36Z

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Email FAQ

2005-03-16T18:18:34Z

Meneth: /* Fun Facts */ I don't know exactly how to put this. Please make it better. :)

[[Image:faq.png|thumb|right|320px|Frequently asked questions, and their answers]]

An older version of the Site FAQ based on the Strong Bad Email menu from the Compy Era. Much of the information on this FAQ is clearly out of date, such as the information on the potential DVD release dates (it has since already been released), as well as information on the Series 2 Figurine Set and the Kick the Cheat doll. As of Feb. 14 2005 (or earlier), this page no longer exists on H*R.com and has been replaced with an updated version.

'''Page Title''': Email Menu - It's maybe just for email againymore!

== Transcript ==

''{We open to the Compy 386, and Strong Bad greets us with either:}''

*'''Strong Bad:''' All right, all right, I'll load this up for you. But hurry up, I'm working on a Trogdor text adventure.

*'''Strong Bad:''' All right, all right, I'll load this up for you. But hurry up, I want to play my new copy of "Duck Guardian 2." ''{holds up box for "Duck Guardian 2"}''

*'''Strong Bad:''' All right, all right, I'll load this up for you. But hurry up, I gotta balance my checkbook. The Cheat made some unexpected expenditures.

''{as this is said, he types}''

c:\>faq.txt

''{which causes the following to load:}''

== Frequently Asked Questions (now quit buggin me!) ==
'''Q: Are the emails Strong Bad answers real?''' 
A: Yup, all of them come from real people. He gets thousands of emails a day so that's why he hasn't picked yours. Keep trying, though. 
''('''Strong Bad:''' Ugh, I can't believe you asked that. You, my friend, are a part of the problem.)''

'''Q: Where are Jumping Jacks and the wrestling one?''' 
A: They had to be removed from the site temporarily. They'll be back up some day.

'''Q: Where are the old cartoons and emails that aren't on the site anymore?''' ''(shortened to "Where are the old cartoons and emails?" in the FAQ body)'' 
A: Check the museum section of the site, just click the H*R logo on any of the main pages. Every Strong Bad Email we've ever done is on the site. The clips from the 'Personal Favorites' emails were just made up. Twas a joke. Oh, and that 'Old Emails' button on some older emails button is an outdated button.

'''Q: Who does the voices on ya'lls site?''' 
A: Matt does all the voices except Marzipan, that's Missy. Mike does the voices when The Cheat makes cartoons.

'''Q: What software do you use to make your Flash cartoons? How do you record your sound?''' ''(shortened to "What software do you use to make your toons?" in the FAQ body)'' 
A: You kinda answered that one yourself. We use Macromedia Flash to make our Flash cartoons. You can download a free trial at Macromedia.com. For Flash help, try out Flashkit.com or buy one of the Visual Quickstart Guide books on Flash. As for sound, we run a microphone through a USB preamp and record in an old version of Cool Edit Pro. 
''('''Strong Bad:''' Whoa, you can hardly see me through all of this text. {lowers voice} I'm back here. Aah, the text is attacking my head.)'' 

'''Q: When does the DVD come out?''' 
A: Sometime in 2004. We keep putting more and more stuff on it so you'll like it more. But hopefully it'll be the first half of 2004

'''Q: Why won't the Joy of Painting cartoon work?''' 
A: Easy. It's not a cartoon. Just a little easter egg to show you Marzipan with a beard.

'''Q: Where does 'Fhqwhgads' come from?''' 
A: From the Strong Bad Email called 'i love you.' The Cheat also made a music video bout it. Look in our Shorts section. 
''('''Strong Bad:''' You didn't know that? What, have you been living under a rock... that doesn't have Internet access?)'' 

'''Q: You should put Homestar and Strong Bad on a TV show!!''' ''(altered to "You should put Homestar and Strong Bad on TV" in the FAQ body)'' 
A: No thanks.

'''Q: You dudes use Windows or Macs?''' 
A: We use Windows machines except for some video editing. We do that on a Mac.

'''Q: Why come I don't get any updates? I signed up!''' ''(shortened to remove the part about "I signed up!" in the FAQ body)'' 
A: We stopped sending updates because we pretty much update every week. Mostly on Mondays. 
('''Strong Bad:''' Geez... How much longer are you gonna be? How many questions did you have?)''

'''Q: Some cartoons won't load on my 'puter! What's up?''' ''(shortened to "Some cartoons won't load on my 'puter!" in the FAQ body)'' 
A: Download the latest free Flash player from Macromedia.com. That usually helps.

'''Q: I can never see the latest updates! My computer says 'the show' is the newest email!''' ''(shortened to remove the part about "the show" in the FAQ body)'' 
A: You may need to contact your ISP about refreshing their DNS or something like that.

'''Q: So is that Homestar puppet for sale?''' ''(shortened to "Is the puppet for sale?" in the FAQ body)'' 
A: Nope, he's one of a kind. Talking The Cheat plush dolls are on the way though. Early 2004.

'''Q: Are you ever gonna make more figurines?''' 
A: Yessir. A 2nd set is in production as we speak. It will feature Homsar, Poopsmith, The KOT, Homestar running, and Buckethand Strong Bad with BathTime The Cheat.

'''Q: Are you guys for hire? Or can you make my friend and/or loved one a special cartoon?''' ''(shortened to remove the entire second sentence in the FAQ body)'' 
A: Homestar keeps us so busy that we don't have time for freelance or personalized stuff. Thanks for thinking of us, though.

'''Q: Will you put up a banner or link to my site?''' 
A: Our policy has always been absolutely no advertising. That includes banners, pop-ups, and even links to other sites.

'''Q: So like, is this all you guys do? Like, it's your job and stuff?''' ''(shortened to "Is this what you do for a living?" in the FAQ body)'' 
A: Yes, t-shirt sales are good enough that we are able to do this full time. Rock on.

'''Q: That drawing of Homestar in the fan section is NOT Michael Jackson like you said. Did you know that? Same with that one you said is Ken from Street Fighter. You guys are wrong!!''' ''(shortened to "Mistakes on fan art drawings?" in the FAQ body)'' 
A: We know. We've seen the movie and the cartoon. It's a joke. Now leave us alone. 
''('''Strong Bad:''' Oh, I swear, If I got another email asking about this... {makes angry/frustrated noises})''

== Fun Facts ==
*[[Duck Guardian 2]] has a playable first version: [[Duck Guardian]].
*Many of the questions appearing on "Email FAQ" were taken from a Question and Answer session featuring [[The Brothers Chaps]] at their alma mater [http://www.fsu.edu Florida State University] on November 7, 2003.
*Unlike the more modern [[Compy 386|Compy]]-based menus, this FAQ page does not have a draggable scroll bar
*There is a Trogdor (graphical) text adventure: [[Peasant's Quest]].

==External Links==
*[http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/faq-2004.html view the Email FAQ (mirror)]

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{{Succession box | before = N/A | title = Site FAQ Page | years = 2004-2005 | after = [[FAQ]]}}
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[[Category:Special Pages]]

Talk:NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005

2005-03-16T18:07:48Z

Meneth: /* Gotta Break 4:40(%) */

==Wowzers==
I'll be personally attending this event tomorrow. And I'll be taking photos galore. If anyone is interested, the Kimmel Building is located at [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=60%20Washington%20Square%20South%20New%20York%2C%20NY&spn=0.022736%2C0.039312 60 Washington Square South]. I'm very, very, very excited. Does anyone else plan to attend? Perhaps we could meet or something.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:10, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:You should bring a video camera with you, so we can possibly do a transcript. That would be sweet.
:I wish I could go, but sadly, I cannot. It would rock to meet you, though. :) →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

Oh man! I wish I could go. I only live 40 minutes away from the city, but I have my theater group! (That's fun too.) I '''second''' on the idea about video taping it for the transcript (as long is it's okay.) I wonder if you'll get to meet TBC!!! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:22, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Additional info==
I was able to find some additional info [http://www.nyu.edu/ticketcentral/events.html here]:
<center><pre>Program Board Presents:
A DATE WITH HOMESTAR RUNNER
Tuesday, 3/1, doors at 5:45pm
Kimmel Center, Shorin Performance Studio, 8th Floor

A Date With Homestar Runner is a presentation by the Chapp
brothers & their video guy Ryan. There will be an awesome
puppet video shot around campus, your favorite cartoons and a
Q&A.

On Sale NOW at Ticket Central!
Tickets $3 with NYU ID, $4 with gov’t issued ID.
Must have NYU ID to obtain 'advance' tickets at Ticket Central.
Limit 2 'advance' tickets per NYU ID. </pre></center>
So yeah, I'm stoked.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:46, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I sure wish I could go. Bring a video camera! →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:Who are the "Chapp brothers"?? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:38, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Update ==

Okay dudes, here's the scoop. After quite an adventure today, I managed to collect a whole bunch of video and some photos. I'll be doing my best to convert and upload the video so that you all can view and transcribe it. I learned quite a bit today, and I know you are all going to ''love'' the video. I'll keep you posted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Ooh... I can't wait. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:How did you get the video? Did you watch the show?? →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah man, I managed to buy two ticket stubs from some guy. (He was somehow able to get back in with his NYU ID, and I was able to get in with the stubs.) I paid quite a pretty penny too. But I'd have to say it's the [[Best/Worst X bucks I ever spent|best forty bucks I ever spent]]![[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Ooooh!!! *steams* I want ticket stubs! I WANT TICKET STUBS!! →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

I'm all tingly! Good work Tom. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

:As am I. Not just good work -''awesome'' work. Awesome work, Tom. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Thanks guys, but just wait until you see this thing! It's totally cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Can't wait for the video! Totally cool, eh Steve..er, Tom? So "totally cool that we don't even know it's totally cool" kind of cool? http://forum.hrwiki.org/images/smiles/icon_mrgreen.gif --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 09:23, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Introduction: Doing a very crappy job ==

I'm sure that this summary will ultimately be replaced by a more accurate chronology of events and even a transcript. But for the time being, I went ahead and partially re-wrote the following:

<pre>Matt and Mike did a very crappy job introducing themselves and instead opted...</pre>

Feel free to change it back to how it is above. I just prefer not to use such slang (e.g., "crappy") - just trying to reduce the use of the colloquial in the article. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:44, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Video and write-up ==

Okay, here we go:
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/2005/03/06/the-brothers-chaps-at-nyu/ My write-up]
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/images/TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent Download the video] (torrent for 1.66 GB avi)
[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:14, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Video's not working. Tips? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]
::Yeah, All it's showing is a bunch of (seemingly) random symbols. What's a torrent anyways? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:26, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::That's a third strike from my try too. And I was so looking forward to the video too! I want to see the bouncing eggs! Oh well, I'm sure [[User:Tom|the man with the plan]] will find a way... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 21:33, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Oops. Okay, since neither the Wiki nor I have infinite bandwidth to spare, I've decided to user the [[WIkipedia:BitTorrent|BitTorrent]] protocol to distribute this file. Simply put, it works like this:
:#I have a big AVI file on my computer.
:#I create a special ".torrent" file for this AVI.
:#I upload the torrent file to my server and link to it from my web page.
:#You download this torrent file.
:#Your torrent handling program takes this file and uses it to contact my torrent handling program.
:#You start downloading the file from me. As you download, you also upload to others downloading.
::Yeah, not the best explanation, but everything you need should be in that Wikipedia article. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:02, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Which Torrent handler do you recomend? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:07, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I use [[Wikipedia:BitComet|BitComet]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:21, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Thanks a lot for making the video. Now for the problems: I've noticed that the torrent uses the UDP tracker protocol extension, and thus is incompatible with most older (and some newer) clients. I also can't seem to connect to anyone except the seeder, and the download is excruciatingly slow, less than 1 kBps. At this rate, I estimate that it will take at least 19 days to complete. Am I the only downloader? - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 22:35, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Well, I'm the only uploader. Any suggestions?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Okay, I've never been much for computer problems being explained with bits, bytes, bandwidth and whatnot, so I'm hoping someone can help a layman (correct spelling?) like me. I downloaded the BitComet program, but what do I do now? I also downloaded the video file, which took about 10 seconds and came in as a Real Player file. So what do I have to do to acquire the actual video, or download it, or view it or whatnot? Thanks alot for getting it though Tom. At least it's out there... Somewhere... '''EDIT: Never mind, I think I got it figured out. It'll take a while, possibly days, right?'''
::Hmmmmm... It says the time remaining is 99:99:99. Any suggestions? (I think I got the same problem as [[User:Meneth|Meneth]]) [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 22:50, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::It sounds like your browser thought the ".avi.torrent" file was some other file. I'm guessing you renamed it "TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent" so BitComet should was able to open it. And yeah, it's going to take a long time. But the more people that download/upload, the faster it will go.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::This is going to take a long, long time. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah! After about 12 hours, I'm up to 1%!!! Only about a month and a half more, and it should be done! Oh well, better than nothing. At least I'll have something to look forwards to in the distant future... '''EDIT: 7:42 Pm another 12 hours later, and it's up to 1.1%. Maybe I should re-upgrade from 'Lite' Speed to 'Light' Speed...''' [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 11:44, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I spent about 5 minutes at it (at the moment, I've uploaded about 32KB and downloaded about 18MB) - So it seems like I'm getting the better deal, and it doesn't seem fair to other users - I'm sure that with more and more users connected, the rate at which we can download the file as a group will go up. I've seen the number of "Connected Peers" grow from four to eight (with a maximum of 14). So it looks encouraging. Just as the wiki is a collaborative effort - so is the idea of bit "torrenting" - Like [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]], I hope I can get past that 1%. My percentage of the 1.66GB AVI file seemed to rush quickly to 1% and then my transfer rate dropped to zero after that (and for quite some time I might add). --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 16:25, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::Update: Can any experienced torrent user (I'm using BitComet) explain why the following "one percent" situation is occuring? [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005.png view 1.0% screenshot here] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005_b.png 3 hours later - 1.1%] --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 20:51, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::That's because the swarm (the set of downloaders) has higher bandwidth than the uploader. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

Could you put the file up on the Gnutella network? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 20:19, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:That wouldn't be faster, unless you've limited your upload speed in BitComet. Come to think of it, a more likely explanation for the low speed (even a 28k modem should be faster) is that you have other torrents and/or p2p apps that hog your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm not running any other p2ps or other torrents. This 1kB/s stuff is killer. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:20, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

The torrent tracker seems to be down, is it just me? --[[User:tmbg37|tmbg37]] 20:55, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It's just you. Or your client, if it doesn't support the UDP tracking protocol. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I don't think the tracker is down, tmbg37. The tracker is on a delay but it has continued to function - at least for me anyway. I've been connected since 8:30PM yesterday and so far I see about 9 users connected and all of them have what I have - 3.5% of Tom's AVI file. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 10:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

::I'm sitting pretty on 4.3% myself, though it looks like everyone else is also around 4.3 or 4.2. Ugh... someone join the chat. I'm lonely. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:::I'm at 4.6% after 25 hours. Who-who. I guess this works great if you are the last person on the planet to download something and not one of the first 20 [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 23:15, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I've got a 4.8% chunk thus far (been connected for more than a day now). This torrent stuff is so...pretendous. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 22:41, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::I just realized it's somehow been off for the past day or so, since I rebooted the computer. Oh no, I've falled behind! I'm only at %4.1. I can't help but feel I'm caught up in some kind of Internet Dowloads pyramid scheme... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 18:08, 9 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I'm at 5% and downloading pretty quickly-about 256 kb/s [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 08:36, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Now I'm near 13% and at 300 kb/s. [[User:fahooglewitz1077|[[User:fahooglewitz1077|fahooglewitz1077]] | [[User talk:fahooglewitz1077|Talk]]]] 08:44, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

I'm at 20%. Gosh, this thing's gonna take a while! [[User:Kilroy|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 23:19, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Seed problems? ==

Have we lost the seeder for the torrent? There's no reason it should be taking ''this'' long to download the file, and all the peers seem to have the same 3.5%. Torrents are only fast if different peers can obtain different parts of the file... (connected for 23 hours now on a T1 line, no other bandwidth hogs running)

:I'm still here, and I never shut off the computer or disconnect by my own will, so don't worry about that. Is there some way I can set the thing to upload faster?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:41, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
::Use BitComet's Preferences dialog. Under Connection, check the Global Max Upload Rate. Under Task, check the Maximum upload rate per task. You can also check the Task Specific Settings. If that doesn't help, use NetLimiter or a software firewall (I recommend Kerio Personal Firewall) to make sure that there aren't any other tasks taking up all your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

You could probably not use the torrent at all. You could split up the file into, say, 10 minute segments (or shorter, or longer.) Have that up for download. After a day (when almost everybody who wanted it had already gotten it) Upload the next segment, and repeat that process until everyone has everything. It will take long, but it won't be as complicated or annoying as this torrent stuff.

I also have another idea, but I'm not sure it'll work. Could you make the .AVI into a flash file? Would that make the file size smaller? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:03, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It could, but recoding the .avi with a smaller bitrate would have the same result. In both cases quality would suffer. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

===Encouraging Milestone===
"First and 10" - See [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/firstat10.png screenshot]. I shouldn't brag about being the first "leecher" to have 10%. This is, however, encouraging as I've been connected for about three days and have one tenth of the desired AVI file...at this rate, I see just about everyone drawing off Tom's 'seed' to have all 1.66GB in a month. Does that seem reasonable? ...Or will it (the rate) pick up? --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:26, 10 Mar 2005 (MST)

===Gotta Break 4:40(%)===

...and we did! Nearly all of my peers are past 40%, and some are heading toward 50%. Despite having an ''Average Download Rate'' of 1 KB/s (on my machine, it say within 99h:99m:99s), it seems that the average rate of 3% a day has been blown away - at least that's what I've witnessed (as I had 19.5% of the file last night and now have 46.5%, quite a difference for just overnight!) Now, I know for sure that it won't take a month to see the treasure Tom recorded for us and himself - 20 minutes of Matt and Mike signing autographs until his camera's battery died and then what we believe to be the entirety of the performance - something to look forward to. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 22:18, 12 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I'm 45.6, nearly half way. My estimite says about 17, 18 hours left, which'll be awsome if it's right. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 13:09, 13 Mar 2005 (MST)

::60.1 now. Man, I can't wait until it's over. My bandwidth's getting murdered. Anything I try to download takes forever, so I've been putting off all of my other downloads. [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 19:34, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::60.1 here, too. More than half way there! →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::::70.1% as of this morning. Too bad partially downloaded AVI cannot be viewed - otherwise I imagine the bulk of the transcript would have already been posted in the article. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 09:30, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

Actually, partial AVIs can be viewed using [http://videolan.org/vlc/ VLC]. However, it doesn't work very well with torrented files unless one has over 90% or so. I tried it just now and got only a few seconds. By the way, has the tracker stopped working for you? I can't connect to it, or any peers. [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 11:07, 16 Mar 2005 (MST)

origins

2005-03-11T00:35:04Z

Meneth: Corrected all the Se?ors

[[Image:bellybutton.PNG|thumb|The origin of Strong Sad's belly button.]]

'''Strong Bad Email #123'''

Strong Bad discusses the hangingoutitude of [[The Stick]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Little Strong Bad]], [[Señor]], [[Mr. Bland]], [[Bubs]], [[The Stick]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Marzipan]], [[Homsar]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The King of Town]]

'''Date:''' January 31, 2005

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in monotone}'' This email is leaving the station. Please move to the center of the email, and away from the doors.

<pre>subject: a sticky question...
Dear Strong bad,
I have recently been wondering about the origin of the
stick. Has it always been a good place for hanging out and
making rendezvous?

Luke, Eau Claire, WI</pre>

''{he tries to pronounce 'rendezvous' plural, as 'rendezvouuuu-ses?', and the bottom line as 'Look, eww...Claire...why?'}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh! Why do you Van Peebles always wanna know the origins and histories of every freakin' little thing? Like, do you wanna know how Strong Sad got his belly button, too?

''{cut to a young Strong Bad's birthday; a sign reads 'Happy Birthday Lil Strong Bad'. Strong Bad has a black shirt with a yellow truck on it, and is looking at a white present with a blue ribbon and a tag reading 'To Strong Bad From Mom or Dad'. He grabs the lid and takes it off to reveal a power drill.}''

'''LIL STRONG BAD:''' ''{lifting the drill}'' Oh, awesome! ''{he revs the drill}''

''{cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clears the screen}'' Or, like, the origin of Bubs' Concession Stand?

''{Original Book style. Señor and Mr. Bland stand in flat greenness, and Strong Bad's words are subtitled.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Señor Havin' A Little Trouble and Mr. Bland were by far the most popular characters.

''{a red Stand falls on them with a splurt!}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Then, they were crushed by a falling Bubs' Concession Stand.

''{Bubs appears in it, waving}''

'''BUBS:''' Hot time!

'''STRONG BAD:''' said Bubs

''{back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, I'm not gonna show you those things. Or the origin of the stick. But I will indulge your curiousity ''{misspelt, but pronounced correctly}'' about the stick's hangingoutitude. It currently rates a 10, but such was not always the case. Like when Homestar used to hold his weekly ''{sounding disturbed, and the words turn green and jiggle on screen}'' bread sing-alongs, ''{back to normal}'' we avoided that place like the plegg! Er, ''{deletes up to the 'p'}'' plague!

''{cut to The Stick, where Homestar Runner is surrounded by bread. He is holding a slice and waving it around while marching on the spot}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' Bread is a good time for me, woo-oo-doo singing, bread is a good time for everybody!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover; Homestar keeps peeking out around the bread slice}'' We sure sniped that problem right between the eyes from three hundred yards by scheduling The Cheat's rhythmic chain dancing recitals for the same time and place.

''{Strong Bad and Strong Mad stand in the background while The Cheat, dressed in a blue suit, is swinging a chain around, hitting Homestar's face and the bread. Homestar has acquired a sign reading 'Come On & Sing.'}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing, despite being hit in the face}'' I cut the crusts off in the morning light...

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clapping; The Cheat picks up a slice of bread and twirls it while making The Cheat noises}'' He's quite good.

'''STRONG MAD:''' WHAT GRACE!

''{back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' After a couple of minutes, the popularity of Homestar's sing-alongs faded and Strong Mad ate The Cheat's chainwhip. So that's when the stick became a great place to spraypaint Marzipan.

''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat by The Stick spraying at Marzipan's dress, which has a picture of a steak and 'St8k DiNNeR' written on it graffiti-style}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' To me, this is something that losers would do.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, this is gonna be my freshest piece yet.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Mad, that looks like cooking spray.

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! Aw, that's some never-forgive action right there.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover; the scene darkens slightly}'' But spraypainting people isn't very much fun when they stand there and make fun of you.

''{cut to Marzipan standing by The Stick with an upside-down Homsar stuck to her head, at night; a wolf howls}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So I super-glued her to Hhh-Homsar...and left them for dead.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Ooh, I think I hear wolves coming.

'''HOMSAR:''' Iiiii'm the human wedgie. ''{His hat falls and lands on Marzipan's dress}''

''{Homestar marches in, holding a loaf of bread}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' .. don't ask me why, pumpernickel and rye. ''{Note: Homestar's speech impediment makes "why" and "rye" sound exactly the same.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' In order to properly leave them for dead, and not keep hanging around them for dead, we relocated to behind Bubs' ''{cut to Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat behind Bubs' Concession Stand with the muffler and pipe, and a crown with 'On Point' spraypainted on the wall}'' and started calling ourselves the On Point Kings. We'd take no guff from nobody!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{to The Cheat}'' Hey man, I know what it means. I was just seeing if you knew.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{makes frustrated The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{walking in}'' Have you guys seen my moleskin journal?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{producing the power drill}'' You want another belly button there, Harry Elephant�?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{starts at powering of drill}'' Waaah! No sir! Heck no at all! ''{runs away}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{throws drill away}'' Man, did you guys see me refuse to take that guff? I flat out rejected it! That guff never even had a chance! ''{pulls out a nail file and starts filing his gloves}'' Ah, that's what being an On Point King is all about.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{walks in with a blue dunce cap on for some reason}'' I hear somebody mention a pointy king? ''{nods his hat}'' Doink doink?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Heck no at all!

''{back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So ya see Claire, if it weren't for the stick, and Marzipan's considerable resistance to death, the On Point Kings may never have stolen the King of Town's dunce cap and renamed it Lotionman. {''a little embarrassed, and stutters his 'd' (not typed)}'' D-Don't ask, it was Strong Mad's idea. Well, I hope that makes you not email me anymore.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==

* Click on "Eau Claire, WI" to view [[Beverly Sportsinterviews]]' book "Ewww..Claire!! Why???"
* Click on "dunce" at the end to see and hear an album of Homestar's Bread Sing-alongs.
** Keep clicking the CD cover to hear different songs. The three songs he sings are the same as the ones from the email.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This is the first time Homsar's hat has not returned to him, regardless of his position (if we don't count [[Modestly Hot Homsar]]). Because he is upside down while glued to Marzipan's forehead, his hat settles on her dress. However, in his character video, he ends up upside down at the end (or, depending on your point of view, the entire video), but his hat still comes back to him.
*This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the [[Strong Bad's Drill|drill]], is featured. Normally [[The Brothers Chaps]] keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.
*This is the first time [[Señor|Señor's]] full name (Señor Havin' A Little Trouble) is revealed on the website (though it had been mentioned in the DVD commentary for [[flashback]].)
*Even though in the origin of [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], the sign above the window reads "STAND", the first appearance of said concession stand ([[Where My Hat is At?]]), the sign reads "CANDY".
*Señor & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.
*If you look closely at Strong Mad's silhouetted shape, you can see an outline of the front of Strong Mad.

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad has trouble with the pronunciation of the plural form of the word ''rendezvous'', which is spelled the same as the singular, not ''rendezvouses''. The plural can be pronounced either /'''ron'''-day-voo/ (which is also the same as the singular) or /'''ron'''-day-vooz/.
*"Eau Claire" means "Clear Water" in French; the correct pronunciation of "eau" is "oh".
*The word "St8k" is spraypainted on Marzipan. If it were pronounced the way it is spelled, it would be "Stateke" instead of Steak.
*In the Bread Sing-a-Longs CD, the picture of Homestar blinks. This is due to his flash animation, which constantly has him blinking.
*Strong Bad misspells "curiosity" as "curiousity."
*The card on Strong Bad's present reads:
To: Strong Bad
From: Mom or Dad

===Goofs===
*[[Little Strong Bad]] doesn't seem to need to push down on the 'trigger' of the drill to make it work.

===Inside References===
*We last saw the smashed muffler in [[no loafing]].
*The appearance of Homestar's Bread Singalongs CD is similar to Strong Bad's Rhythm 'N' Grammar as seen at the end of [[local news]].
*Homestar peeking out behind the bread concealing his eyes at the end of his first bread sing-along song is a long-time running joke that whenever his eyes are concealed or closed, he has to move them so he can see you. Other examples are [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] and [[A Holiday Greeting]]
* Strong Bad was last "On Point" in the "[[Extra Real Dating Sim XR]]."
*This is the second time in the past two cartoons that a character has been pictured wearing a truck shirt. Little Strong Bad does so here, and [[Tompkins]] wore one in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. Also, Little Strong Bad's voice is very similar to [[Tompkins]]'.
*Strong Bad's misspelling of "plague" is likely a reference to [[Peasant's Quest]], in which there is a joke about misspelling "plaque" as "plague."

===Real-World References===
*Strong Bad's introduction to the email is a reference to the automated voice systems commonly used on subway trains, and is nearly identical to the one once used on the train between concourses at the Atlanta Airport (TBC live in Atlanta).
*The drill used to give Strong Sad his belly button is likely a DeWalt Drill, DeWalt being famous for their yellow colored heavy duty tools.
**The sound that the drill makes is closer to the sound of a compressed-air powered tool, rather than an electric drill.
*When Señor and Mr. Bland are crushed in the scene depicting the origin of [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], the manner in which their legs stick out is as that of the Wicked Witch of the East in [[Wikipedia:The_Wizard_of_Oz_%281939_movie%29|The Wizard of Oz]] when she is crushed by Dorothy's house.
*Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]], is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Beverly Cleary|Beverly Cleary]], an author for children and young adults.
*[[Wikipedia:Moleskine|Moleskine]] is a brand of pocket notebooks and sketch pads popular among trend-following artists and writers. Strong Sad mistakenly pronounces it "mole skin", whereas the correct pronunciation is "mol-a-skeen'-a".
*"Harry Elephante" is a reference to famous calypso musician [[Wikipedia:Harry Belafonte|Harry Belafonte]]. A similar joke was made in the ''Friends'' episode entitled "The One After The Super Bowl," when Ross (David Schwimmer) mentions that his monkey's favorite toy is named "Harry Elephante". It also brings to mind Chester Elegante, from [[dreamail]].
*"Van Peebles" is a reference to the filmmakers [[Wikipedia:Melvin Van Peebles|Melvin Van Peebles]] (known for ''[[Wikipedia:Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song|Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song]]'') and his son [[Wikipedia:Mario Van Peebles|Mario Van Peebles]].
*In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band [[Wikipedia:Dokken|Dokken]], whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."
*Where "bread sing-alongs" is green and jittering, this could be a reference to the Nintendo 64 game Banjo-Kazooie, where when a character said something 'disgusting' those particular words would jiggle in that fashion.
*Strong Bad's line "that's some never-forgive action right there" is a direct quote from Min One in the [[Wikipedia:graffiti|graffiti]] documentary [[Wikipedia:Style Wars|Style Wars]].

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail123.html view "origins"] 
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail123.swf view the flash file for "origins"]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1907 forum thread re: "origins"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
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origins

2005-03-11T00:28:10Z

Meneth: /* Transcript */

[[Image:bellybutton.PNG|thumb|The origin of Strong Sad's belly button.]]

'''Strong Bad Email #123'''

Strong Bad discusses the hangingoutitude of [[The Stick]].

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Little Strong Bad]], [[Señor]], [[Mr. Bland]], [[Bubs]], [[The Stick]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[The Cheat]], [[Strong Mad]], [[Marzipan]], [[Homsar]], [[Strong Sad]], [[The King of Town]]

'''Date:''' January 31, 2005

== Transcript ==

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{in monotone}'' This email is leaving the station. Please move to the center of the email, and away from the doors.

<pre>subject: a sticky question...
Dear Strong bad,
I have recently been wondering about the origin of the
stick. Has it always been a good place for hanging out and
making rendezvous?

Luke, Eau Claire, WI</pre>

''{he tries to pronounce 'rendezvous' plural, as 'rendezvouuuu-ses?', and the bottom line as 'Look, eww...Claire...why?'}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ugh! Why do you Van Peebles always wanna know the origins and histories of every freakin' little thing? Like, do you wanna know how Strong Sad got his belly button, too?

''{cut to a young Strong Bad's birthday; a sign reads 'Happy Birthday Lil Strong Bad'. Strong Bad has a black shirt with a yellow truck on it, and is looking at a white present with a blue ribbon and a tag reading 'To Strong Bad From Mom or Dad'. He grabs the lid and takes it off to reveal a power drill.}''

'''LIL STRONG BAD:''' ''{lifting the drill}'' Oh, awesome! ''{he revs the drill}''

''{cut back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clears the screen}'' Or, like, the origin of Bubs' Concession Stand?

''{Original Book style. Senor and Mr. Bland stand in flat greenness, and Strong Bad's words are subtitled.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Senor Havin' A Little Trouble and Mr. Bland were by far the most popular characters.

''{a red Stand falls on them with a splurt!}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Then, they were crushed by a falling Bubs' Concession Stand.

''{Bubs appears in it, waving}''

'''BUBS:''' Hot time!

'''STRONG BAD:''' said Bubs

''{back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Well, I'm not gonna show you those things. Or the origin of the stick. But I will indulge your curiousity ''{misspelt, but pronounced correctly}'' about the stick's hangingoutitude. It currently rates a 10, but such was not always the case. Like when Homestar used to hold his weekly ''{sounding disturbed, and the words turn green and jiggle on screen}'' bread sing-alongs, ''{back to normal}'' we avoided that place like the plegg! Er, ''{deletes up to the 'p'}'' plague!

''{cut to The Stick, where Homestar Runner is surrounded by bread. He is holding a slice and waving it around while marching on the spot}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' Bread is a good time for me, woo-oo-doo singing, bread is a good time for everybody!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover; Homestar keeps peeking out around the bread slice}'' We sure sniped that problem right between the eyes from three hundred yards by scheduling The Cheat's rhythmic chain dancing recitals for the same time and place.

''{Strong Bad and Strong Mad stand in the background while The Cheat, dressed in a blue suit, is swinging a chain around, hitting Homestar's face and the bread. Homestar has acquired a sign reading 'Come On & Sing.'}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing, despite being hit in the face}'' I cut the crusts off in the morning light...

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{clapping; The Cheat picks up a slice of bread and twirls it while making The Cheat noises}'' He's quite good.

'''STRONG MAD:''' WHAT GRACE!

''{back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' After a couple of minutes, the popularity of Homestar's sing-alongs faded and Strong Mad ate The Cheat's chainwhip. So that's when the stick became a great place to spraypaint Marzipan.

''{Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat by The Stick spraying at Marzipan's dress, which has a picture of a steak and 'St8k DiNNeR' written on it graffiti-style}''

'''MARZIPAN:''' To me, this is something that losers would do.

'''STRONG BAD:''' Oh, this is gonna be my freshest piece yet.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Strong Mad, that looks like cooking spray.

'''STRONG BAD:''' What?! Aw, that's some never-forgive action right there.

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover; the scene darkens slightly}'' But spraypainting people isn't very much fun when they stand there and make fun of you.

''{cut to Marzipan standing by The Stick with an upside-down Homsar stuck to her head, at night; a wolf howls}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' So I super-glued her to Hhh-Homsar...and left them for dead.

'''MARZIPAN:''' Ooh, I think I hear wolves coming.

'''HOMSAR:''' Iiiii'm the human wedgie. ''{His hat falls and lands on Marzipan's dress}''

''{Homestar marches in, holding a loaf of bread}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{singing}'' .. don't ask me why, pumpernickel and rye. ''{Note: Homestar's speech impediment makes "why" and "rye" sound exactly the same.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{voiceover}'' In order to properly leave them for dead, and not keep hanging around them for dead, we relocated to behind Bubs' ''{cut to Strong Bad, Strong Mad and The Cheat behind Bubs' Concession Stand with the muffler and pipe, and a crown with 'On Point' spraypainted on the wall}'' and started calling ourselves the On Point Kings. We'd take no guff from nobody!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{to The Cheat}'' Hey man, I know what it means. I was just seeing if you knew.

'''THE CHEAT:''' ''{makes frustrated The Cheat noises}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{walking in}'' Have you guys seen my moleskin journal?

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{producing the power drill}'' You want another belly button there, Harry Elephant�?

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{starts at powering of drill}'' Waaah! No sir! Heck no at all! ''{runs away}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{throws drill away}'' Man, did you guys see me refuse to take that guff? I flat out rejected it! That guff never even had a chance! ''{pulls out a nail file and starts filing his gloves}'' Ah, that's what being an On Point King is all about.

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{walks in with a blue dunce cap on for some reason}'' I hear somebody mention a pointy king? ''{nods his hat}'' Doink doink?

'''STRONG BAD:''' Heck no at all!

''{back to the Lappy}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' So ya see Claire, if it weren't for the stick, and Marzipan's considerable resistance to death, the On Point Kings may never have stolen the King of Town's dunce cap and renamed it Lotionman. {''a little embarrassed, and stutters his 'd' (not typed)}'' D-Don't ask, it was Strong Mad's idea. Well, I hope that makes you not email me anymore.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==

* Click on "Eau Claire, WI" to view [[Beverly Sportsinterviews]]' book "Ewww..Claire!! Why???"
* Click on "dunce" at the end to see and hear an album of Homestar's Bread Sing-alongs.
** Keep clicking the CD cover to hear different songs. The three songs he sings are the same as the ones from the email.

== Fun Facts ==
===Trivia===
*This is the first time Homsar's hat has not returned to him, regardless of his position (if we don't count [[Modestly Hot Homsar]]). Because he is upside down while glued to Marzipan's forehead, his hat settles on her dress. However, in his character video, he ends up upside down at the end (or, depending on your point of view, the entire video), but his hat still comes back to him.
*This is one of the only times in a toon that a reaction shot, such as Strong Sad's after being threatened with the [[Strong Bad's Drill|drill]], is featured. Normally [[The Brothers Chaps]] keep the perspective facing in one direction, children's book style, and do not show the faces of those facing away from the normal camera perspective.
*This is the first time [[Se�or|Se�or's]] full name (Se�or Havin' A Little Trouble) is revealed on the website (though it had been mentioned in the DVD commentary for [[flashback]].)
*Even though in the origin of [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], the sign above the window reads "STAND", the first appearance of said concession stand ([[Where My Hat is At?]]), the sign reads "CANDY".
*Se�or & Mr. Bland got crushed by Bubs' Concession Stand, though they appear in the audience of [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (toon)|Marshmallow's Last Stand]]. Bubs' Concession Stand appeared before this toon.
*If you look closely at Strong Mad's silhouetted shape, you can see an outline of the front of Strong Mad.

===Remarks===
*Strong Bad has trouble with the pronunciation of the plural form of the word ''rendezvous'', which is spelled the same as the singular, not ''rendezvouses''. The plural can be pronounced either /'''ron'''-day-voo/ (which is also the same as the singular) or /'''ron'''-day-vooz/.
*"Eau Claire" means "Clear Water" in French; the correct pronunciation of "eau" is "oh".
*The word "St8k" is spraypainted on Marzipan. If it were pronounced the way it is spelled, it would be "Stateke" instead of Steak.
*In the Bread Sing-a-Longs CD, the picture of Homestar blinks. This is due to his flash animation, which constantly has him blinking.
*Strong Bad misspells "curiosity" as "curiousity."
*The card on Strong Bad's present reads:
To: Strong Bad
From: Mom or Dad

===Goofs===
*[[Little Strong Bad]] doesn't seem to need to push down on the 'trigger' of the drill to make it work.

===Inside References===
*We last saw the smashed muffler in [[no loafing]].
*The appearance of Homestar's Bread Singalongs CD is similar to Strong Bad's Rhythm 'N' Grammar as seen at the end of [[local news]].
*Homestar peeking out behind the bread concealing his eyes at the end of his first bread sing-along song is a long-time running joke that whenever his eyes are concealed or closed, he has to move them so he can see you. Other examples are [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]] and [[A Holiday Greeting]]
* Strong Bad was last "On Point" in the "[[Extra Real Dating Sim XR]]."
*This is the second time in the past two cartoons that a character has been pictured wearing a truck shirt. Little Strong Bad does so here, and [[Tompkins]] wore one in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 8]]. Also, Little Strong Bad's voice is very similar to [[Tompkins]]'.
*Strong Bad's misspelling of "plague" is likely a reference to [[Peasant's Quest]], in which there is a joke about misspelling "plaque" as "plague."

===Real-World References===
*Strong Bad's introduction to the email is a reference to the automated voice systems commonly used on subway trains, and is nearly identical to the one once used on the train between concourses at the Atlanta Airport (TBC live in Atlanta).
*The drill used to give Strong Sad his belly button is likely a DeWalt Drill, DeWalt being famous for their yellow colored heavy duty tools.
**The sound that the drill makes is closer to the sound of a compressed-air powered tool, rather than an electric drill.
*When Se�or and Mr. Bland are crushed in the scene depicting the origin of [[Bubs' Concession Stand]], the manner in which their legs stick out is as that of the Wicked Witch of the East in [[Wikipedia:The_Wizard_of_Oz_%281939_movie%29|The Wizard of Oz]] when she is crushed by Dorothy's house.
*Beverly Sportsinterviews, likely related to [[Lem Sportsinterviews]], is a reference to [[Wikipedia:Beverly Cleary|Beverly Cleary]], an author for children and young adults.
*[[Wikipedia:Moleskine|Moleskine]] is a brand of pocket notebooks and sketch pads popular among trend-following artists and writers. Strong Sad mistakenly pronounces it "mole skin", whereas the correct pronunciation is "mol-a-skeen'-a".
*"Harry Elephante" is a reference to famous calypso musician [[Wikipedia:Harry Belafonte|Harry Belafonte]]. A similar joke was made in the ''Friends'' episode entitled "The One After The Super Bowl," when Ross (David Schwimmer) mentions that his monkey's favorite toy is named "Harry Elephante". It also brings to mind Chester Elegante, from [[dreamail]].
*"Van Peebles" is a reference to the filmmakers [[Wikipedia:Melvin Van Peebles|Melvin Van Peebles]] (known for ''[[Wikipedia:Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song|Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song]]'') and his son [[Wikipedia:Mario Van Peebles|Mario Van Peebles]].
*In the second bread sing-along song, Homestar sings, "I cut the crusts off in the morning light." This is a reference to the 80s metal band [[Wikipedia:Dokken|Dokken]], whose song "Alone Again" had the same tune and opens with "I'd like to see you in the morning light."
*Where "bread sing-alongs" is green and jittering, this could be a reference to the Nintendo 64 game Banjo-Kazooie, where when a character said something 'disgusting' those particular words would jiggle in that fashion.
*Strong Bad's line "that's some never-forgive action right there" is a direct quote from Min One in the [[Wikipedia:graffiti|graffiti]] documentary [[Wikipedia:Style Wars|Style Wars]].

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail123.html view "origins"] 
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail123.swf view the flash file for "origins"]
*[http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=1907 forum thread re: "origins"]

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Talk:NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005

2005-03-09T00:33:29Z

Meneth: /* Seed problems? */ addition to last post

==Wowzers==
I'll be personally attending this event tomorrow. And I'll be taking photos galore. If anyone is interested, the Kimmel Building is located at [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=60%20Washington%20Square%20South%20New%20York%2C%20NY&spn=0.022736%2C0.039312 60 Washington Square South]. I'm very, very, very excited. Does anyone else plan to attend? Perhaps we could meet or something.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:10, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:You should bring a video camera with you, so we can possibly do a transcript. That would be sweet.
:I wish I could go, but sadly, I cannot. It would rock to meet you, though. :) →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

Oh man! I wish I could go. I only live 40 minutes away from the city, but I have my theater group! (That's fun too.) I '''second''' on the idea about video taping it for the transcript (as long is it's okay.) I wonder if you'll get to meet TBC!!! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:22, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Additional info==
I was able to find some additional info [http://www.nyu.edu/ticketcentral/events.html here]:
<center><pre>Program Board Presents:
A DATE WITH HOMESTAR RUNNER
Tuesday, 3/1, doors at 5:45pm
Kimmel Center, Shorin Performance Studio, 8th Floor

A Date With Homestar Runner is a presentation by the Chapp
brothers & their video guy Ryan. There will be an awesome
puppet video shot around campus, your favorite cartoons and a
Q&A.

On Sale NOW at Ticket Central!
Tickets $3 with NYU ID, $4 with gov’t issued ID.
Must have NYU ID to obtain 'advance' tickets at Ticket Central.
Limit 2 'advance' tickets per NYU ID. </pre></center>
So yeah, I'm stoked.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:46, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I sure wish I could go. Bring a video camera! →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:Who are the "Chapp brothers"?? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:38, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Update ==

Okay dudes, here's the scoop. After quite an adventure today, I managed to collect a whole bunch of video and some photos. I'll be doing my best to convert and upload the video so that you all can view and transcribe it. I learned quite a bit today, and I know you are all going to ''love'' the video. I'll keep you posted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Ooh... I can't wait. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:How did you get the video? Did you watch the show?? →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah man, I managed to buy two ticket stubs from some guy. (He was somehow able to get back in with his NYU ID, and I was able to get in with the stubs.) I paid quite a pretty penny too. But I'd have to say it's the [[Best/Worst X bucks I ever spent|best forty bucks I ever spent]]![[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Ooooh!!! *steams* I want ticket stubs! I WANT TICKET STUBS!! →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

I'm all tingly! Good work Tom. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

:As am I. Not just good work -''awesome'' work. Awesome work, Tom. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Thanks guys, but just wait until you see this thing! It's totally cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Can't wait for the video! Totally cool, eh Steve..er, Tom? So "totally cool that we don't even know it's totally cool" kind of cool? http://forum.hrwiki.org/images/smiles/icon_mrgreen.gif --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 09:23, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Introduction: Doing a very crappy job ==

I'm sure that this summary will ultimately be replaced by a more accurate chronology of events and even a transcript. But for the time being, I went ahead and partially re-wrote the following:

<pre>Matt and Mike did a very crappy job introducing themselves and instead opted...</pre>

Feel free to change it back to how it is above. I just prefer not to use such slang (e.g., "crappy") - just trying to reduce the use of the colloquial in the article. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:44, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Video and write-up ==

Okay, here we go:
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/2005/03/06/the-brothers-chaps-at-nyu/ My write-up]
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/images/TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent Download the video] (torrent for 1.66 GB avi)
[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:14, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Video's not working. Tips? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]
::Yeah, All it's showing is a bunch of (seemingly) random symbols. What's a torrent anyways? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:26, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::That's a third strike from my try too. And I was so looking forward to the video too! I want to see the bouncing eggs! Oh well, I'm sure [[User:Tom|the man with the plan]] will find a way... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 21:33, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Oops. Okay, since neither the Wiki nor I have infinite bandwidth to spare, I've decided to user the [[WIkipedia:BitTorrent|BitTorrent]] protocol to distribute this file. Simply put, it works like this:
:#I have a big AVI file on my computer.
:#I create a special ".torrent" file for this AVI.
:#I upload the torrent file to my server and link to it from my web page.
:#You download this torrent file.
:#Your torrent handling program takes this file and uses it to contact my torrent handling program.
:#You start downloading the file from me. As you download, you also upload to others downloading.
::Yeah, not the best explanation, but everything you need should be in that Wikipedia article. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:02, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Which Torrent handler do you recomend? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:07, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I use [[Wikipedia:BitComet|BitComet]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:21, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Thanks a lot for making the video. Now for the problems: I've noticed that the torrent uses the UDP tracker protocol extension, and thus is incompatible with most older (and some newer) clients. I also can't seem to connect to anyone except the seeder, and the download is excruciatingly slow, less than 1 kBps. At this rate, I estimate that it will take at least 19 days to complete. Am I the only downloader? - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 22:35, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Well, I'm the only uploader. Any suggestions?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Okay, I've never been much for computer problems being explained with bits, bytes, bandwidth and whatnot, so I'm hoping someone can help a layman (correct spelling?) like me. I downloaded the BitComet program, but what do I do now? I also downloaded the video file, which took about 10 seconds and came in as a Real Player file. So what do I have to do to acquire the actual video, or download it, or view it or whatnot? Thanks alot for getting it though Tom. At least it's out there... Somewhere... '''EDIT: Never mind, I think I got it figured out. It'll take a while, possibly days, right?'''
::Hmmmmm... It says the time remaining is 99:99:99. Any suggestions? (I think I got the same problem as [[User:Meneth|Meneth]]) [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 22:50, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::It sounds like your browser thought the ".avi.torrent" file was some other file. I'm guessing you renamed it "TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent" so BitComet should was able to open it. And yeah, it's going to take a long time. But the more people that download/upload, the faster it will go.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::This is going to take a long, long time. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah! After about 12 hours, I'm up to 1%!!! Only about a month and a half more, and it should be done! Oh well, better than nothing. At least I'll have something to look forwards to in the distant future... '''EDIT: 7:42 Pm another 12 hours later, and it's up to 1.1%. Maybe I should re-upgrade from 'Lite' Speed to 'Light' Speed...''' [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 11:44, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I spent about 5 minutes at it (at the moment, I've uploaded about 32KB and downloaded about 18MB) - So it seems like I'm getting the better deal, and it doesn't seem fair to other users - I'm sure that with more and more users connected, the rate at which we can download the file as a group will go up. I've seen the number of "Connected Peers" grow from four to eight (with a maximum of 14). So it looks encouraging. Just as the wiki is a collaborative effort - so is the idea of bit "torrenting" - Like [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]], I hope I can get past that 1%. My percentage of the 1.66GB AVI file seemed to rush quickly to 1% and then my transfer rate dropped to zero after that (and for quite some time I might add). --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 16:25, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::Update: Can any experienced torrent user (I'm using BitComet) explain why the following "one percent" situation is occuring? [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005.png view 1.0% screenshot here] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005_b.png 3 hours later - 1.1%] --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 20:51, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::That's because the swarm (the set of downloaders) has higher bandwidth than the uploader. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

Could you put the file up on the Gnutella network? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 20:19, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:That wouldn't be faster, unless you've limited your upload speed in BitComet. Come to think of it, a more likely explanation for the low speed (even a 28k modem should be faster) is that you have other torrents and/or p2p apps that hog your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

The torrent tracker seems to be down, is it just me? --[[User:tmbg37|tmbg37]] 20:55, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It's just you. Or your client, if it doesn't support the UDP tracking protocol. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I don't think the tracker is down, tmbg37. The tracker is on a delay but it has continued to function - at least for me anyway. I've been connected since 8:30PM yesterday and so far I see about 9 users connected and all of them have what I have - 3.5% of Tom's AVI file. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 10:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Seed problems? ==

Have we lost the seeder for the torrent? There's no reason it should be taking ''this'' long to download the file, and all the peers seem to have the same 3.5%. Torrents are only fast if different peers can obtain different parts of the file... (connected for 23 hours now on a T1 line, no other bandwidth hogs running)

:I'm still here, and I never shut off the computer or disconnect by my own will, so don't worry about that. Is there some way I can set the thing to upload faster?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:41, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
::Use BitComet's Preferences dialog. Under Connection, check the Global Max Upload Rate. Under Task, check the Maximum upload rate per task. You can also check the Task Specific Settings. If that doesn't help, use NetLimiter or a software firewall (I recommend Kerio Personal Firewall) to make sure that there aren't any other tasks taking up all your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

You could probably not use the torrent at all. You could split up the file into, say, 10 minute segments (or shorter, or longer.) Have that up for download. After a day (when almost everybody who wanted it had already gotten it) Upload the next segment, and repeat that process until everyone has everything. It will take long, but it won't be as complicated or annoying as this torrent stuff.

I also have another idea, but I'm not sure it'll work. Could you make the .AVI into a flash file? Would that make the file size smaller? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:03, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It could, but recoding the .avi with a smaller bitrate would have the same result. In both cases quality would suffer. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

Talk:NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005

2005-03-09T00:31:31Z

Meneth: /* Seed problems? */ replies

==Wowzers==
I'll be personally attending this event tomorrow. And I'll be taking photos galore. If anyone is interested, the Kimmel Building is located at [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=60%20Washington%20Square%20South%20New%20York%2C%20NY&spn=0.022736%2C0.039312 60 Washington Square South]. I'm very, very, very excited. Does anyone else plan to attend? Perhaps we could meet or something.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:10, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:You should bring a video camera with you, so we can possibly do a transcript. That would be sweet.
:I wish I could go, but sadly, I cannot. It would rock to meet you, though. :) →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

Oh man! I wish I could go. I only live 40 minutes away from the city, but I have my theater group! (That's fun too.) I '''second''' on the idea about video taping it for the transcript (as long is it's okay.) I wonder if you'll get to meet TBC!!! →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 18:22, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

==Additional info==
I was able to find some additional info [http://www.nyu.edu/ticketcentral/events.html here]:
<center><pre>Program Board Presents:
A DATE WITH HOMESTAR RUNNER
Tuesday, 3/1, doors at 5:45pm
Kimmel Center, Shorin Performance Studio, 8th Floor

A Date With Homestar Runner is a presentation by the Chapp
brothers & their video guy Ryan. There will be an awesome
puppet video shot around campus, your favorite cartoons and a
Q&A.

On Sale NOW at Ticket Central!
Tickets $3 with NYU ID, $4 with gov’t issued ID.
Must have NYU ID to obtain 'advance' tickets at Ticket Central.
Limit 2 'advance' tickets per NYU ID. </pre></center>
So yeah, I'm stoked.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:46, 28 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I sure wish I could go. Bring a video camera! →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:Who are the "Chapp brothers"?? [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 08:38, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Update ==

Okay dudes, here's the scoop. After quite an adventure today, I managed to collect a whole bunch of video and some photos. I'll be doing my best to convert and upload the video so that you all can view and transcribe it. I learned quite a bit today, and I know you are all going to ''love'' the video. I'll keep you posted.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:57, 1 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Ooh... I can't wait. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

:How did you get the video? Did you watch the show?? →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah man, I managed to buy two ticket stubs from some guy. (He was somehow able to get back in with his NYU ID, and I was able to get in with the stubs.) I paid quite a pretty penny too. But I'd have to say it's the [[Best/Worst X bucks I ever spent|best forty bucks I ever spent]]![[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Ooooh!!! *steams* I want ticket stubs! I WANT TICKET STUBS!! →[[User:socetew|''<tt>[[User:socetew|socetew]]</tt>'']]

I'm all tingly! Good work Tom. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:39, 2 Mar 2005 (MST)

:As am I. Not just good work -''awesome'' work. Awesome work, Tom. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Thanks guys, but just wait until you see this thing! It's totally cool.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 09:10, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Can't wait for the video! Totally cool, eh Steve..er, Tom? So "totally cool that we don't even know it's totally cool" kind of cool? http://forum.hrwiki.org/images/smiles/icon_mrgreen.gif --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 09:23, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Introduction: Doing a very crappy job ==

I'm sure that this summary will ultimately be replaced by a more accurate chronology of events and even a transcript. But for the time being, I went ahead and partially re-wrote the following:

<pre>Matt and Mike did a very crappy job introducing themselves and instead opted...</pre>

Feel free to change it back to how it is above. I just prefer not to use such slang (e.g., "crappy") - just trying to reduce the use of the colloquial in the article. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 11:44, 3 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Video and write-up ==

Okay, here we go:
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/2005/03/06/the-brothers-chaps-at-nyu/ My write-up]
*[http://www.tompreuss.com/images/TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent Download the video] (torrent for 1.66 GB avi)
[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:14, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:Video's not working. Tips? →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]
::Yeah, All it's showing is a bunch of (seemingly) random symbols. What's a torrent anyways? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 21:26, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::That's a third strike from my try too. And I was so looking forward to the video too! I want to see the bouncing eggs! Oh well, I'm sure [[User:Tom|the man with the plan]] will find a way... [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 21:33, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Oops. Okay, since neither the Wiki nor I have infinite bandwidth to spare, I've decided to user the [[WIkipedia:BitTorrent|BitTorrent]] protocol to distribute this file. Simply put, it works like this:
:#I have a big AVI file on my computer.
:#I create a special ".torrent" file for this AVI.
:#I upload the torrent file to my server and link to it from my web page.
:#You download this torrent file.
:#Your torrent handling program takes this file and uses it to contact my torrent handling program.
:#You start downloading the file from me. As you download, you also upload to others downloading.
::Yeah, not the best explanation, but everything you need should be in that Wikipedia article. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:02, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Which Torrent handler do you recomend? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 22:07, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I use [[Wikipedia:BitComet|BitComet]].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 22:21, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

Thanks a lot for making the video. Now for the problems: I've noticed that the torrent uses the UDP tracker protocol extension, and thus is incompatible with most older (and some newer) clients. I also can't seem to connect to anyone except the seeder, and the download is excruciatingly slow, less than 1 kBps. At this rate, I estimate that it will take at least 19 days to complete. Am I the only downloader? - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 22:35, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::Well, I'm the only uploader. Any suggestions?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::Okay, I've never been much for computer problems being explained with bits, bytes, bandwidth and whatnot, so I'm hoping someone can help a layman (correct spelling?) like me. I downloaded the BitComet program, but what do I do now? I also downloaded the video file, which took about 10 seconds and came in as a Real Player file. So what do I have to do to acquire the actual video, or download it, or view it or whatnot? Thanks alot for getting it though Tom. At least it's out there... Somewhere... '''EDIT: Never mind, I think I got it figured out. It'll take a while, possibly days, right?'''
::Hmmmmm... It says the time remaining is 99:99:99. Any suggestions? (I think I got the same problem as [[User:Meneth|Meneth]]) [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 22:50, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::It sounds like your browser thought the ".avi.torrent" file was some other file. I'm guessing you renamed it "TBC_at_NYU_1_Mar_2005.avi.torrent" so BitComet should was able to open it. And yeah, it's going to take a long time. But the more people that download/upload, the faster it will go.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:06, 6 Mar 2005 (MST)

::::This is going to take a long, long time. →[[User:FireBird|''<tt>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</tt>'']]

::Yeah! After about 12 hours, I'm up to 1%!!! Only about a month and a half more, and it should be done! Oh well, better than nothing. At least I'll have something to look forwards to in the distant future... '''EDIT: 7:42 Pm another 12 hours later, and it's up to 1.1%. Maybe I should re-upgrade from 'Lite' Speed to 'Light' Speed...''' [[User:Thunderbird L17|''<tt>[[User:Thunderbird L17|⇔Thunderbird⇔]]</tt>'']] 11:44, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)

:::I spent about 5 minutes at it (at the moment, I've uploaded about 32KB and downloaded about 18MB) - So it seems like I'm getting the better deal, and it doesn't seem fair to other users - I'm sure that with more and more users connected, the rate at which we can download the file as a group will go up. I've seen the number of "Connected Peers" grow from four to eight (with a maximum of 14). So it looks encouraging. Just as the wiki is a collaborative effort - so is the idea of bit "torrenting" - Like [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]], I hope I can get past that 1%. My percentage of the 1.66GB AVI file seemed to rush quickly to 1% and then my transfer rate dropped to zero after that (and for quite some time I might add). --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 16:25, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:::Update: Can any experienced torrent user (I'm using BitComet) explain why the following "one percent" situation is occuring? [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005.png view 1.0% screenshot here] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/ender_kg/ThePaper/07Mar2005_b.png 3 hours later - 1.1%] --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 20:51, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
::::That's because the swarm (the set of downloaders) has higher bandwidth than the uploader. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

Could you put the file up on the Gnutella network? [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 20:19, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:That wouldn't be faster, unless you've limited your upload speed in BitComet. Come to think of it, a more likely explanation for the low speed (even a 28k modem should be faster) is that you have other torrents and/or p2p apps that hog your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

The torrent tracker seems to be down, is it just me? --[[User:tmbg37|tmbg37]] 20:55, 7 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It's just you. Or your client, if it doesn't support the UDP tracking protocol. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 10:27, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

:I don't think the tracker is down, tmbg37. The tracker is on a delay but it has continued to function - at least for me anyway. I've been connected since 8:30PM yesterday and so far I see about 9 users connected and all of them have what I have - 3.5% of Tom's AVI file. --[[User:The Paper|The Paper]] 10:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Seed problems? ==

Have we lost the seeder for the torrent? There's no reason it should be taking ''this'' long to download the file, and all the peers seem to have the same 3.5%. Torrents are only fast if different peers can obtain different parts of the file... (connected for 23 hours now on a T1 line, no other bandwidth hogs running)

:I'm still here, and I never shut off the computer or disconnect by my own will, so don't worry about that. Is there some way I can set the thing to upload faster?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 14:41, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
::Use BitComet's Preferences dialog. Under Connection, check the Global Max Upload Rate. Under Task, check the Maximum upload rate per task. If that doesn't help, use NetLimiter or a software firewall (I recommend Kerio Personal Firewall) to make sure that there aren't any other tasks taking up all your bandwidth. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

You could probably not use the torrent at all. You could split up the file into, say, 10 minute segments (or shorter, or longer.) Have that up for download. After a day (when almost everybody who wanted it had already gotten it) Upload the next segment, and repeat that process until everyone has everything. It will take long, but it won't be as complicated or annoying as this torrent stuff.

I also have another idea, but I'm not sure it'll work. Could you make the .AVI into a flash file? Would that make the file size smaller? →[[User:evin290|evin290]] 15:03, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)
:It could, but recoding the .avi with a smaller bitrate would have the same result. In both cases quality would suffer. - [[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 17:31, 8 Mar 2005 (MST)

Talk:NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005

2005-03-08T17:27:57Z

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Talk:NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005

2005-03-07T05:35:17Z

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H*R.com updates 2004

2005-02-28T16:45:26Z

Meneth: removed unnessecary link

{{updates-box}}
This is a log of all of the changes that happened at H*R.com from January 05, 2004 through December 30, 2004. For current updates, see [[H*R.com updates]].
==December 30th, 2004==

*[[Quote of the Week]]: BOOGIDY BOOGIDY! I'll scare your dad!
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: monstrous homsar
*[[Sketchbook]]: eww. a litter of cheatpups.

==December 20th, 2004==

*Holiday: [[Homestar Presents: Presents]]

==December 16th, 2004==

*[[Snow Globe]]
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "We got another 50 minutes straight of music free commercials comin atcha! Don't you touch that ZABITTABLOUGH!"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: ol' accordian limbs sb
*[[Sketchbook]]: thnikkaman with mustache

==December 13th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #120: "[[radio]]"

==December 9th, 2004==

*[[Quote of the Week]]: "I know you're close by, Eh, Steve! I can smell your natural musk!"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: funnable, fuzzy fomestar
*[[Sketchbook]]: some li'l brudders

==December 5th, 2004==

*[[Main Page 22]]
*[[strongbad email.exe|strongbad_email.exe DVD]] back in stock at the [[Store]]

==December 2nd, 2004==

*[[Quote of the Week]]: "Lil Brudder! I-I Don't know what I'm doing with my life!!"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: strong sad meringues
*[[Sketchbook]]: more made up animals, stnank and grumberto

==November 29th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #119: "[[animal]]"
*[[Strong Bad Email|Email Menu and rap]]: "New Brother"
*Removed short animation from [[Broken Compy Menu]]
*[[Trogdor]] [http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/trposh.html polo shirt] available in the [[Store]]
*Holiday Bargains in the [[Store]]

==November 22nd, 2004==

*[[Broken Compy Menu]]
*[[:Image:Quote_Of_Week_Box_Design.PNG|Quote of the Week box design]] changed
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "I doh du duoh crapfully yours. ID DO DU DUOH CRAPFULLY YOURS!"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: legogdor!
*[[Sketchbook]]: the goblin was gonna have arms? and fangs?
*[[Bubs]] [http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/bubsnew.html shirt] in the [[Store]]
*[[Marzipan]] [http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/marzipannew.html shirt] in the [[Store]]

==November 15th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #118: "[[virus]]"

==November 11th, 2004==

*[[Quote of the Week]]: You're A Girl
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: homestar skullcap
*[[Sketchbook]]: unused TTGS death

==November 9th, 2004==

*[[strongbad_email.exe|Strong Bad Email DVD]] boxed set in the [[Store]]

==November 8th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #117: "[[montage]]"
*[[Strong Bad DVD Promo]]
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "Women can't drive!"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: one serious equation
*[[Sketchbook]]: mashed potato jones

==November 1st, 2004==

*[[Coach Z]] [http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/coachznew.html shirt] in the [[Store]]

==October 29th, 2004==

*Holiday: [[Halloween Fairstival]]

==October 25th, 2004==

*Puppet Stuff: [[Homestar vs. Little Girl 2]]
*[[Pom Pom]] shirt in the [[Store]]

==October 18th, 2004==

*Holiday: [[That A Ghost]]
*[[Strong Sad]] shirt and [[Teen Girl Squad]] hoodie in the [[Store]]
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "Let Me In, Da da da, Let Me In!"
*[[Sketchbook]]: Many Marshies

==October 14th, 2004==

*[[Pumpkin Stencils]]

==October 11th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #116: "[[extra plug]]"
*Labor Day returned to toons menu as [[Labor Dabor]]

==October 7th, 2004==

*[[Quote of the Week]]: "That's Bupkis!"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: legomestar runner
*[[Sketchbook]]: THE TWO GUYS!!

==October 4th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #115: "[[time capsule]]"

==September 30th, 2004==

*[[Quote of the Week]]: "That sounds like FUNNY!" "It SOUNDS like funny, but it's not."
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: homestar meltymens!
*[[Sketchbook]]: Mr. HomestARMS

==September 28th, 2004==

*Toon: [[Shopping for Danger]]
*[[Labor Dabor|Labor Day]] removed from toons menu

==September 23rd, 2004==

*[[Quote of the Week]]: "And I'll just erase it using my... electron... towel." (Broken link...)
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: homestar jr. feat. thnikkaman
*[[Sketchbook]]: castlefunnies sketches

==September 20th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #114: "[[the facts]]"

==September 19th, 2004==

*[[Quote of the Week]]: "Cheat Commandos, rock, rock on!"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: cheat in a crisper drawer cake
*[[Sketchbook]]: teeny tiny girl squad sketches

==September 13th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #113: "[[pizzaz]]"

==September 9th, 2004==

*[[Strong Sad's Lament]]: Dinner for One
*[[Sketchbook]]: King S.B. with fish and axe

==September 8th, 2004==

*[[Quote of the Week]]: Todayborday is Laborday

==September 7th, 2004==

*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: Homestar felt-babies

==September 6th, 2004==

*Pupppet Stuff: [[Labor Dabor|Labor Day]]

==August 31st, 2004==

*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: Somewhere in the UK

==August 30th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #112: "[[old comics]]"
*Game: [[Duck Guardian]]

==August 26th, 2004==

*[[Strong Sad's Lament]]: History Lesson Part II
*[[Quote of the Week]]: It was Biscuit Dough Hands Man!
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: pleh jallegiance
*[[Sketchbook]]: the many butts of coach z

==August 23rd, 2004==

*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 7]]
*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2]]

==August 19th, 2004==

*[[Strong Sad's Lament]]: The Curse of Keen Eyes
*[[Main Pages|Main Page]] buttons for [[Quote of the Week]], [[Weekly Fanstuff]], and [[Sketchbook]]
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "Hey, Stickly Man!"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: sweetchucks.
*[[Sketchbook]]: viewtiful brothers strong

==August 16th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #111: "[[other days]]"
*[[Strong Bad Email|Email Rap]]: "Scrollable Science"

==August 12th, 2004==

*Holiday: [[Fan Costume Commentary]]
*[[Strong Sad's Lament]]: Dr. Scholls?
*[[Quote of the Week]]: The Fury of Our Gift Schop
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: seriously. the chet IS fune
*[[Sketchbook]]: the sad kids had a mom?

==August 9th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #110: "[[for kids]]"
*[http://www.videlectrix.com/bhz.mp3 bhz congrats] added

==August 5th, 2004==

*[[Quote of the Week]]: Wheat Grows Sweet
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: A Cheese With Legs?
*[[Sketchbook]]: Cowcopter Prototypes

==August 4th, 2004==

*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/favicon.ico favicon.ico] added

==August 2nd, 2004==

*Game: [[Hallrunner]]
*Game: [[Peasant's Quest]]
*[[StrongBadZone]] [http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/strongbadzone.html t-shirt] in the store
*[http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/coat.html Back to School Sale] in the store

==July 29th, 2004==

*[[Scrolling Shooter Games Menu]]
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "I can make it on my own."
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: "Real Life [[Bubs]]! AAAHH!!!"
*[[Sketchbook]]: "Caffinated Strong Sad"
*[[Strong Bad Zone]] t-shirt coming soon

==July 26th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #109: "[[crying]]"

==July 19th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #108: "[[pom pom]]"
*Short: [[Peasant's Quest Preview]]
*[[Seasonal Sweaters]] song added to [[Decemberween In July]]
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "Is a miracle."
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: "congrats [[The Cheat|the cheat]]!!!"
*[[Sketchbook]]: "modestly hot homsars"

==July 14th, 2004==

*Commentary easter egg added to [[Experimental Film]]

==July 13th, 2004==

*Short: [[Experimental Film]]
*the "little gray links" at the bottom of each page are now Flash instead of HTML

==July 12th, 2004==

*Holiday: [[Decemberween In July]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Trogdor]] Stand-up Cabinet

==July 5th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #107: "[[cheatday]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: Sweet [[The Cheat|Cheat]] Bread.
*[[The Cheat Commandos]] shirts now in the [[Store]].
*[[Puppet Jam: Mission Control]] is removed from the [[Toons]] menu.

==July 2nd, 2004==

*Summer Sale Extended to July 4

==June 30th, 2004==

*[[Puppet Jam: Mission Control]] is added to the [[Toons]] menu, but not released.

==June 29th, 2004==

*Short: [[Senor Mortgage]]
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "I just hate you so much!"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Homestar Runner]] sock puppet.

==June 22nd, 2004==

*Scroll buttons added to [[Strong Bad Email]] menu
*[[Toons]] menu changed, [[Powered by the Cheat]] and [[Puppet Stuff]] sections added

==June 21st, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #106: "[[dangeresque 3]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Trogdor]] License Plate

==June 16th, 2004==

*[[Main Page 21]]
*Posters for sale in the [http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/posters.html store].

==June 8th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #105: "[[replacement]]"

==June 7th, 2004==

*Short: [[Puppet Jam: Vitamins/Celebrities]]
*Series 2 figurines in the [http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/ store].

==May 31st, 2004==
*Short: [[Cheat Commandos...O's]]
*Short: [[Puppet Jam: Tropical Lazor Beams]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: Hello [[The Yello Dello|Yello Dello]]

==May 25th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #104: "[[theme park]]"

==May 24th, 2004==

*Short: [[What We Did Last Week]] "a.k.a. The Cheatar"
*Short: [[Puppet Jam: Bad Jokes]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: [[Senor Cardgage]] greeting
*Summer Sale in the [http://store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/stsusa.html store].

==May 17th, 2004==

*[[Trogdor]] Messenger Bags available in the [[Store]].
*[[Quote of the Week]]: Cheat Commandos Theme

==May 10th, 2004==

*Short: [[Cheat Commandos Commercial]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: Pom Pom iPod

==May 5th, 2004==

*[[Store]] layout changed

==May 3rd, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #103: "[[haircut]]"
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "Shinin' up a chicken..."
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: Photo of [[Bubs]]' Beverages & Redemption Cente

==April 26th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #102: "[[lunch special]]"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: Butt Dance Homestar Bobble

==April 20th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #101: "[[car]]"
*[[Strong Bad Email|Email Rap]]: "Hold and Control"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: Clay [[Trogdor]]

==April 7th, 2004==

*Short: [[New Boots]]

==April 4th, 2004==

*[[Main Page 20]]

==April 1st, 2004==

*Holiday: [[Under Construction]]
*[http://shop.store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/aprilfoolsday.html April Fool's Day Sale] in the store
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: Stinkoman Underdrawers

==March 22nd, 2004==

*Toon: [[Strong Bad Is In Jail Cartoon]]
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "We're from the band Limozeen!"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: "Matchstick Strong Bad"

==March 16th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #100: "[[flashback]]"
*[[Strong Bad Email|Email Rap]]: "Mince Words"

==March 15th, 2004==
*[[Not the 100th Email!!!]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: Pinewood Derby Homestar and Strong Bad

==March 8th, 2004==

*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 10.2]]
*Short: [[Puppet Time]]
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "I'm gonna miss video games."
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: "Modestly Hot Tattoo"

==March 1st, 2004==

*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: "Tiny, Tiny Stinkoman"

==February 23rd, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #99: "[[different town]]"
*Game: [[Thy Dungeonman 2]]
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: "Duct Tape Trogdor"

==February 16th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #98: "[[stupid stuff]]"

==February 9th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #97: "[[monument]]"
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "Here comes the Thnikkaman!"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: "Custom plates, yo."

==February 2nd, 2004==

*Game: [[Pigs on Head]]
*[[Videlectrix]] webpage launched
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "What more do they want?"
*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: "Trogdor Fan Plushie"

==January 27th, 2004==

*[[Weekly Fanstuff]]: Cold One Cross Stitch

==January 26th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #96: "[[lackey]]"
*Wallpaper: Do you has?

==January 19th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #95: "[[the bet]]"
*[[Strong Bad Email|Email Rap]]: "Apartment"

==January 12th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #94: "[[video games]]"
*[[Quote of the Week]]: "Back off baby."

==January 7th, 2004==

*Mac OS X Icons
*Wallpaper: Pom x2

==January 5th, 2004==

*Strong Bad Email #93: "[[army]]"
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[[Category: Regular Updates]]

comic

2005-02-21T16:23:09Z

Meneth: /* Transcript */

[[Image:sbemail53.PNG|thumb|TEEN GIRL SQUAD!]]

'''Strong Bad Email #53'''

The origin of [[Teen Girl Squad]]! A girl asks Strong Bad to make a comic about her friends.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' [[Strong Bad]], [[Cheerleader]], [[So and So]], [[What's Her Face]], [[The Ugly One]], [[Visor Robot]], [[The Man with the Huge Mouth]], [[Dinosaur]]

== Transcript ==
'''STRONG BAD:''' In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them.

''{reading}''

<pre>Can you make a comic about my friends?
Tey are totally obsessed with you.
Their names are Virginia, Joy,
Kristen, and Jennifer. I would really
appriciate it.

Thank You.

Brittany</pre>

''{Strong Bad mumbles over the four girls' names instead of reading them. He also pronounces "Tey" as it is written and "appriciate" "a-prick-ee-ate".}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Well, I'd really appriciate ''{same as in the email}'' it if you proofread your emails before you sent them to me! So, a comic about your little friends, huh? Well, okay. I'll see what I can do!

''{He gets out pencil and starts drawing something. Some music starts playing.}''


{{TGS1 Transcript}}

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{typing}'' Wow, Brittany! That turned out pretty good! I should maybe make some crappy xeroxes of that thing and sell it over at Bubs'. Or at least some snooty independent record store. ''{stops typing}'' Ok, so, that's it! No more Strong Bad Emails. Nah, I'm just kiddin... maybe.

''{[[The Paper]] comes down}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*When Strong Bad reads, "I would really appriciate it" you can click on the names of the girls to bring up pictures of some States.
*When the "Girls' States" appear - you can click on the tippy-top of each one to show it in its underwear, just like in [[weird dream]].
*When the headstones appear you can click on the far right one to bring up a rather funny alternate ending.
:''{Strong Bad walks on from offsceen}''
:'''STRONG BAD:''' Whoa, hey there Cheerleader. You looking so good. You want to go take a ride with me up to Checker's... or Rally's... or Sonic Burger? Whatever you guys got here.
*At the very end you can click on the words, "independent record store" to bring up a part showing the comic for sale in some record store. Funny banter going on in the background:
:'''CUSTOMER''': ''[presumably Matt]'': 'Sup, man?
:'''CLERK''': ''[presumably Mike]'': Hey, how ya doin'?
:'''CUSTOMER''': Pretty good.
:'''CLERK''': Good to see you back in.
:'''CUSTOMER''': Yeah, did you, uh... did you listen to this yet?
:'''CLERK''': You know, I have. Yah. I wasn't into it. I couldn't get into it.
:'''CUSTOMER''': Huh. I thought... I was kinda hoping it'd be....
:'''CLERK''': Yah, you know, they were---the whole thing's in 4/4, and... um... yeah. So, I just got---it wasn't for me. I liked their solo stuff better, you know?
:'''CUSTOMER''': Yeah. Well what about, uh, what about their guitars? D'ya think they're all, like, in tune? Like the... the frets?
:'''CLERK''': Yeah, the frets are in tune. The frets they're using are... are B-modal. But, uh, 'cuz they just have the same producer.
:'''CUSTOMER''': Al Beno.
:'''CLERK''': Al Beno.
:'''CUSTOMER''': Right.
:'''CLERK''': Yah.
:'''CUSTOMER''': Yah, I really liked their last album.
:'''CLERK''': Yah, their old stuff is great! Have you ever seen them live?
:'''CUSTOMER''': Yah. Yah.
:'''CLERK''': I mean... I saw, I saw 'em... I saw 'em, like, twice... actually, uhm, uh, last night, I saw them.
:'''CUSTOMER''': Yeah, I saw them... I saw them earlier this morning. Yah.
:'''CLERK''': Oh.
:'''CUSTOMER''': Like, four times.
:'''CLERK''': Oh.
:'''CUSTOMER''': Yah. I mean I've been a big, I've been a bigger fan than you for a while, I mean...
:'''CLERK''': Yah, well...
:'''CUSTOMER''': For a lot longer probably, too...
:'''CLERK''': Well, no no...
:'''CUSTOMER''': Well, I mean, I dunno...
:'''CLERK''': Yah.

== Fun Facts ==
===Real-World References===
* The song playing in the background of the record store bit is Sonic Youth's "Teenage Riot" from the album Daydream Nation.
* In the Easter Egg, a number of albums are visible:
**"Mudhoney" was a grunge band from the late 80's-early 90's. A 45 for their single "You Stupid Asshole" is in the box labeled "Used 45s".
**The Brothers Johnson was a funk band from the 70's. Their album "Winners" is visible.
**The album on the far right is ''[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000000XDH/qid=1093205886/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl15/002-9179656-1977639?v=glance&s=music&n=507846 A Boy Named Charlie Brown]'' by [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/artist/glance/-/16682/ref=m_art_dp/002-9179656-1977639 The Vince Guaraldi Trio].
*"Al Beno" is most likely a reference to Steve Albini, the famous producer, who was not actually associated with Daydream Nation.
*"In the United States alone, someone checks their email every three seconds. This is one of them" - This is a reference to the closing lines of [http://imdb.com/title/tt0040636/ The Naked City].

== DVD Version ==
* The State Easter Eggs are still viewable using the angle button on your DVD remote.
* The Strong Bad Easter Egg near the end of the TGS cartoon is automatically enabled, no clicking required.
* The 45 of Mudhoney's "You Stupid Asshole" has its cover censored.
* This email also features a hidden creator's commentary. You can access it by switching your DVD player's audio language selection while watching.
**This commentary also extends into the Record Shop Easter Egg.

=== Commentary Transcript ===
('''Commentary by:''' [[Mike Chapman]], [[Matt Chapman]])

'''MIKE:''' Hi

'''MATT:''' Hi there. It's Matt.

'''MIKE:''' It's Miiike. Hah-hah.

'''MATT:''' T-taste.

'''MIKE:''' Alright.

'''MATT:''' Good taste. So, uh, little-known fact, this email was actually sent to the Brothers Chaps address, NOT Strong Bad, uh, and Strong Bad, stole it from us. You kno-

'''MIKE:''' He Shanghaied it.

'''MATT:''' He Shanghaied it, that's what I said last time.

'''MIKE:''' But we were- we had to redo the commentary. The ORIGINAL take of the commentary Matt said that we Shanghaied it.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. But then Mike cussed a swear later so we had to redo it.

'''MIKE:''' Alright, that's enough, I'm OUTTA HERE.

''{door opening and closing}''

'''MATT:''' Mike really just closed the door and is still sitting next to me.

'''MIKE:''' I'm GONE, in the next room!

'''MATT:''' Alright, so, let's talk about, uh, Strong Bad's voice here. It sounds much more like Strong Bad at this point.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah

'''MATT:''' When he's being the girls.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, if you watch this and then go to your computer and watch, maybe Teen Girl Squad Episode 6...

'''MATT:''' They sound a lot-

'''MIKE:''' You'll notice a difference.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. And he's like, he calls

'''MIKE:''' No mouth! No mouth!

'''MATT:''' And he calls So And So Kristen. ''She'' calls so and so Kristen.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, they've never been- do they even call themselves their... What's Her- oh, I think they-

'''MATT:''' Yeah

'''MIKE:''' -call her What's Her Face.

'''MATT:''' What's Her Face, you have to go to a junkyard.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Umm... ''{pause}'' and here comes an Easter Egg. You get to see this for FREE on the DVD

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, most people on the website have to click a gravestone over there to see this and... this is just how much we love you guys.

'''MATT:''' And this is Strong Bad referring to how we don't understand how those three fast-food chains can all exist and be so exactly alike. Especially-

'''MIKE:''' I haven't seen a Rally in a long time. I don't know, I guess there's just not many in Atlanta.

'''MATT:''' Yeah. But Checkers and Rally's-

'''MIKE:''' But there's not enough Sonics! The closest Sonic is, like, 20 miles away from us.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' I like their shakes.

'''MATT:''' ''{quickly}'' That caused a lot of concern

=== Easter Egg Commentary Transcript ===
'''MIKE:''' So here we are in the independent record store we created in our apartment, uhhh, at about 5 AM-

'''MATT:''' Yep

'''MIKE:''' the night we made this email.

'''MATT:''' Yep. Uh, that thing is, that thing is- the rack that the comics are in is just the bottom of a weird little CD rack I had.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah, that's right.

'''MATT:''' But it looks kinda like some kind of magazine rack, doesn't it?

'''MIKE:''' It does.

'''MATT:''' We improvised. I used a- a marker, a magic marker. I improvise-

'''MIKE:''' ''{interrupting}'' And it looks like a cardboarded box was used to ''{Matt starts laughing}'' house the 45, or 7 inch, records.

'''MATT:''' And there's, over on the far left, you can just barely make out the beginnings of a comic- it is a legitimate comic book box that I have that has some comics in it.

'''MIKE:''' Oh yeah.

'''MATT:''' But I think we just cropped it out. ''{pause}'' You know, so we're obviously just making fun of college people and all their... if you walk up... we have Criminal Records here. Wax and Fax both. Any given day, you walk in there. Book Nook as well, that- they'll be talking about jazz. It won't be about indie rock, but they'll be having nerdy nerdy conversations about jazz and trying to one-up each other. Like ''{mimics Super Mario Bros. 1-UP sound effect}''.

'''MIKE''' ''{mimics Super Mario Bros. 1-UP sound effect as well}''

'''MATT:''' You know, a one-up.

'''MIKE:''' It's like a green mushroom.

'''MATT:''' Yeah.

'''MIKE:''' Yeah.

'''MATT:''' Uhm... uh, over there on the far right is The Day of Bob and Lump, Issue... I think it's the Halloween Issue, I don't know which it i- bye.

== External Links ==
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail53.html watch "comic"]
*[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail53.swf view the flash file for "comic"]

{{Strong Bad Email}}
[[Category:Compy 386 Emails]][[Category:Strong Bad Filmography]][[Category:Cheerleader Filmography]][[Category:So and So Filmography]][[Category:The Ugly One Filmography]] [[Category:What's Her Face Filmography]] [[Category:Teen Girl Squad]]

Talk:Peasant's Quest Movie Trailer

2005-02-08T06:36:54Z

Meneth: R. for Robot?

Thank you to whomever posted a link to Coral Cache! It takes forever to load from the main site. -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 19:46, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I just downloaded it and copied the HTML source into a local file. It loaded almost instantly. [[User:woddfellow2|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—<tt>[[User:woddfellow2|woddfellow2]]|[[User talk:woddfellow2|✎</tt>]] 19:52, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Credits ==

I had this typed up for the credits:

<center>[[Videlectrix]] [[Videlectrix Films|Films]]

in relative association with

[[Thorax Corporation|Thorax Legitimate]] present

"Peasant's Quest: The Movie:

The Adventures of Rather Dashing

Or Trogdor's Big Movie"

[[Matt Chapman]] - Z. Gillispie - Lucky Yates

Matt Gribbon - [[Jackie Chapman]] - Rene Delefont

[[Jonathan Howe]] - [[Ryan Sterritt]] - Christian Danley

Editor: Ryan Sterrit - Cinematographer: Ryan Sterrit/[[Mike Chapman]]

Original Score: Mike Chapman / Jonathan Howe

Pterodactyl Wrangler: Matt Chapman - Cartograhper: [[Craig Zobel|R. Craig Zobel]]

Directed by [[Leomard Sportsinterviews|Lem Sportsinterviews]]</center>

Now, I won't dispute the <nowiki><pre></nowiki> tags look much nicer, but since we're going with that, and those do NOT allow linking within them (I've tried, trust me) I was wondering where I could (or if I even should) put the links... --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:30, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)

:The links, when appropriate, can be put in Fun Facts. Note that many of them will already be linked elsewhere on the page, and links shouldn't be repeated. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 21:55, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Fun Facts Image ==

Why is the picture of the end credits in the Fun Facts section? It feels, to me, like it clutters the page. Am I alone in this belief? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 23:01, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)

:I put it there to accompany the transcription, because it doesn't appear in the toon long enough to read. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 23:52, 6 Feb 2005 (MST)
:: We didn't have a picture for the [[dangeresque 3]] credits, or any of the hundreds of things from [[2 emails]], or anything else save one picture at the top of each article. Why here? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 00:12, 7 Feb 2005 (MST)
::: Why not? What's the harm? --[[User:68.149.165.171|68.149.165.171]]

== Pictures ==

Should we not add pictures of the characters from this trailer into the character biographies? I think it would be a nice touch.--[[User:Lord Pikachon|Lord Pikachon]]

:That sounds like a good idea to me. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:30, 7 Feb 2005 (MST)

== A question from Daniel ==
Why does Rather dashing scare gary if he meets both archers at the begining? [[User:DanielLC|Daniel]]

:The sequence of scenes in movie trailers frequently differs from the sequence events in the actual movie. [[User:InterruptorJones|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:InterruptorJones|InterruptorJones]][[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 14:30, 7 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Scalding Lake ==

Rather Dashing's T-Shirt says "Scalding Lake" or something - does that ring a bell to anyone? --JZ
:That it's related to the place Rather Dashing visited, as depicted in Peasant's Quest's opening dialogue? --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 20:32, 7 Feb 2005 (MST)
::Quite right, I just replayed the beginning of the game. Awesome, I found a real fun fact this time! --JZ

== R. for Robot? ==

The "R." before Craig Zobel in the credits may mean "Robot", like in [[Wikipedia:Isaac Asimov|Isaac Asimov]]'s novels. Does it? If so, should it be added to Real-World References? --[[User:Meneth|Meneth]] 23:36, 7 Feb 2005 (MST)

Fourth Wall Breaks

2005-02-08T06:08:24Z

Meneth: /* Emails that reference that the characters are on a website */ Internalized link

[[Image:fourthwalling.png|thumb|Good morning, reality!]]

In a blue moon, the H*R characters "break the fourth wall" by recognizing their existence as cartoon characters on a computer screen rather than in a fictional world of their own.

[[First Time Here?]] sets the stage for fourth wall breakages, especially when Strong Bad shows up to let you know why you're here.

It has also occurred in the following [[Strong Bad Email]]s:

== Emails that reference being watched ==

*[[huttah!]]: [[The Cheat]] actually watches the e-mail on his own computer.
*[[little animal]]: [[Strong Bad]] mentions "the viewers...at home..."
*[[the process]]: the entire email implies that Strong Bad is aware that he is a cartoon being watched by people at home.
*[[mile]]: Strong Bad tells us he won't be checking his e-mail this week.
*[[for kids]]: Strong Bad alludes to the idea of children watching his emails.
*[[other days]]: Strong Bad does his email earlier for "Eastern European viewers across the pond."
*[[extra plug]]: The scene at the end with the cast making a fake e-mail gives the impression that Strong Bad knows someone's watching, and that they want to see the e-mail finished.
*[[animal]]: Strong Bad says goodbye to everyone.
*[[part-time job]]:Bubs refers to Strong Bad's "email show," to which Strong Bad replies that one day he'll "be big."
*[[stand-up]]: [[Strong Sad]] tells us to follow him to the television, where he plays the performance of [[Little Strong Bad]].
*[[the basics]]: Strong Bad says "there'll be another one next week".

== Emails that reference that the characters are on a website ==

*[[flashback]]: The size of the display area is purposefully extended and [[Homestar Runner]] is "behind the black."
*[[virus]]: [[The Virus]] opens most of the characters' minds to realize that they are in a cartoon.
*[[Not the 100th Email!!!]]: References to the 404 page and the user poking around the site.
*[[part-time job]]: Strong Bad peeks around the edge of the black on his way to Bubs'.
*[[dreamail]]:Strong Bad says his dreamail would have a pink border.

In addition, the fourth wall has been breached in the following toons:

*[[The System is Down]]: References to both the 404 File Not Found page and homestarrunner.com being down.
*[[Homestar Presents: Presents]]: Strong Bad informs the viewers that Homestar runs around frantically from Decemberween to New Years, then, in the easter egg, there is a poster on the wall that reads, "Left Out Characters' Support Group & Buffet."
*[[Strong Sad#Character Video Transcript|Strong Sad's Character Page]]: In his character page, [[Strong Sad]] mentions that he doesn't want to "do a character tape."
*[[In Search Of The Yello Dello DVD]]: The TV announcer says that the Yellow Dello is "the most rare and exotic bird in this entire cartoon".
* In Teen Girl Squad Issue 8, when Cheerleader anounces "It's Over!", she implies somone is controlling their "world'
[[Category:Lists]]

Cold One

2005-02-08T05:39:10Z

Meneth: /* Types Of Ones */

[[Image:sbemail39.PNG|thumb|The Cold One motto]]
'''Cold Ones''' are a popular beverage in [[Free Country, USA]] that are shipped in nondescript brown bottles. Although there has been debate if they are actually alcoholic or not, the [[Kerrek]] rejects Cold Ones because he is a [[Wikipedia:Teetotalism|teetotaller]] in the email "[[for kids]]". Also since the [[Strong Bad]] [[Homestar Runner and Strong Bad Screensaver|screensaver]] displays "Premium Alcoholic Cold Ones", and that Room Temp-er-ature Ones are "brewed in Foreign Lands", the conclusion is that a Cold One is a refreshing type of beer. In addition, "Warm Ones" could possibly be referring to the British preference of drinking their beer at near room temperature.

It is revealed in the email "[[super powers]]" that Strong Bad can use the diamond-shaped icon on his head to open a Cold One.

== [[property of ones| Property of Ones]] ==

Equation stated by Strong Bad for determining the Oneness of a One:
* o is the final value of the Oneness of a One
* ''n'' is a value equivalent to the base Oneness of a One
* c is the temperature of the One.

'''o'''=(''n''ITUDE&prop;cITUDE)

==Types Of Ones==
*''Cold Ones'' - Preferred by [[Strong Bad]]
*''Cool Ones'' - A nice alternative on spring nights
*''Xtra Cold Ones'' - A step up from Cold Ones
*''Not So Cold Ones'' - Enjoyed by [[Coach Z]] at least 90 degrees
*''Room Temp-A-Ture Ones'' - Foreign brand brewed in [[:Category:Foreign Lands|Foreign Lands]]
*''Warm Ones'' - Foreign brand straight from the oven
*''Cold None'' - Not to be wished on anyone
{|- border=0
|
[[Image:notsocold.PNG|thumb|100px|Not So Cold One]]
|[[Image:warmone.PNG|thumb|100px|Warm One]]
|[[Image:roomone.PNG|thumb|100px|Room Temp-A-Ture One]]
|}

==See also==
*[[Coldson Lite]]
*[[Coach Z Ale]]

[[Category: Products]]