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Decemberween

2006-12-24T21:37:11Z

Ciberdude444: /* References to Christmas */ i agree, its reduntent

[[Image:dween cast.png|thumb|220px|Fifty-five days after Halloween]]
'''Decemberween''' (or [[what I want|X-berween]], also D'Ween) is a [[Holidays|holiday]] celebrated by the people of [[Free Country, USA]], 55 days after [[Holidays#Halloween (October 31st)|Halloween]], on December 25. It bears many similarities to [[Wikipedia:Christmas|Christmas]], with colorful lights and garlands and the giving of presents, but also has some obvious differences. Though Christmas carols have made appearances (O Holy Night in [[A Holiday Greeting]], O Christmas Tree in [[The Best Decemberween Ever]] and Jingle Bells in [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]]), their (correct) words are never sung. [[Decemberween Food|Decemberween food]] has some unique variations on more recognizable cuisine. Instead of turkeys, the traditional meal is bunnies (much to [[Marzipan]]'s chagrin). The origins of the holiday are complicated, involving at least one Angel, Dr. Christmas (who looks a bit like [[Wikipedia:Santa Claus|Santa Claus]]), two [[Wikipedia:Kobe Bryant|Kobe Bryants]], and a sailor named Archibald. Although the holiday's origins are explained in their pageant, we can only see glimpses of it in the [[Toons|toon]] "[[A Decemberween Pageant]]", leaving most of the story a mystery. Decemberween can also be celebrated in July, time permitting. There were no Decemberween cartoons in 2003 or 2005.

==Decemberween Characters==
[[Image:xmas2002.png|thumb|220px|Decemberween will come soon!]]
*[[The Angel]]
*[[Dr. Christmas]]
*[[Archibald]]
*[[The King of Town (Decemberween)|The King of Town]]
*[[The Popular Vote]]
*[[Kobe|Kobe 1 and 2]]
*[[The First Decemberween]]
*[[Santaman]]
*[[Bad Graphics Ghost]] dressed as a Santaman
*[[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Gift Exchange Lion|Gift Exchange Lion]]

==Decemberween Toons==
*[[A Holiday Greeting]] (although Decemberween isn't mentioned) (2000)
*[[The Best Decemberween Ever]] (2001)
*[[A Decemberween Pageant]] (2002)
*[[Decemberween In July]] (2004)
*[[Snowglobe|Snow Globe]] (2004)
*[[Homestar Presents: Presents]] (2004)
*[[Decemberween Short Shorts]] (2006)

===Decemberween [[Strong Bad Email|Emails]]===
*[[Decemberween Email Menu]] (2002)
*[[what I want]] (2006)

==References to Christmas==
Though Decemberween is the holiday celebrated in Free Country, USA, some characters still make reference to Christmas.

*In [[Peasant's Quest]], the description of the [[Peasant's Quest Items|Super Trinket]] tells you that "It looks like it can either kill you or make you the hit of your Christmas party."
*In [[animal]], Strong Bad says if he was a made-up animal he'd want to be a [[Made-Up Strong Bad Animals#Deep Sea Fangly Fish|Deep Sea Fangly Fish]], the kind with Christmas lights and custom lures.
*On the [[TV Time Toons Menu|toons menu]], the description for [[Happy Fireworks]] says "Strong Bad ruins Christmas. Wait, what?"
*Excluding "Decemberween Teen Girl Squad" and "Decemberween in July", all of the Decemberween toons have the word "xmas", an abbreviation for Christmas, in the URL address.
*In [[Pumpkin Carve-nival]], [[Homsar]] remarks, "I'm the ghost of Christmas past", a reference to Charles Dickens' [[Wikipedia:A Christmas Carol|A Christmas Carol]].

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[[Category: Decemberween]]
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User:Ciberdude444

2006-04-22T15:14:41Z

Ciberdude444: /* if you can tell me the names of these songs post it on my talk */

User:Ciberdude444

2006-04-22T15:14:08Z

Ciberdude444: /* if you can tell me the names of these songs post it on my talk */

User:Ciberdude444

2006-04-18T01:10:14Z

Ciberdude444: /* quotes */

User:Ciberdude444

2006-04-16T21:08:37Z

Ciberdude444: /* (yeah) */

User:Ciberdude444

2006-04-14T12:28:09Z

Ciberdude444: /* (yeah) */

===wow, its been a while===

==quotes==
Second place is like being the tallest midget... no one cares.

Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes; that way, when you criticize them you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes!

it is now beyond all doubt that cigarettes are the largest cause of statistics

42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

...Because, if Santa and the holiday armadillo are in the same room for too long, the world will implode... Merry Christmas!!!!
'''-Friends'''

I see you're drinking 1%, is that because you think you're fat? cause your not, you could be drinking whole if you wanted too.
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

yeah, there's a ton of gangs at this school, this one kept on wanting me to join cause I'm pretty good with a bo staf
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

Are You suggesting coconuts migrate?
'''-Monty Python and the Holy Grail'''

so then i said to the guy 'if this is the house of pancakes how come i can't eat the walls?'
'''-Homer Simpson'''

if at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence you tried

===(yeah)===

My heart is beating from me,

I am standing all alone,

Please call me only if you are coming home,

Whatch another year flies by,

Waste a night or two,

You taught me how to live

In the streets of shame,

Where you've lost your dreams in the rain,

There's no signs of hope,

The stems and seeds of the last of the **pe,

There's a glow of light,

The St. Jimmy is the spark in the night,

Bearing gifts and trust,

A fixture in the city of lust,

"What the hells your name,

What's your pleasure what is your pain?

Do you dream too much?

Do you think what you need is a crutch?"

In the crowd of pain, St. Jimmy comes without any shame,

He says "We're f****d up,

But we're not the same,

And mom and dad are the ones you can blame"

Jimmy died today

He blew his brains out into the bay,

In the state of mind its my own private suicide

II. East 12th Street

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

Well nobody cares,

Well nobody cares,

Does anyone care if nobody cares?

Well nobody cares,

Well nobody cares,

Does anyone care if nobody cares?

Jesus filling out paperwork now,

At the facility on east 12th Street,

He's not listening to a word now,

He's in his own world,

And he's daydreaming

He'd rather be doing something else now,

Like cigarettes and coffee with the underbelly,

His life's on the line with anxiety now,

'Cuz she had enough,

And he had plenty

Somebody get me out of here,

Anybody get me out of here,

Somebody get me out of here,

Get me the f*** right out of here

So far away,

I don't want to stay,

Get me outta here right now,

I just want to be free,

Is there a possibility?

Get me out of here right now,

This life like dream ain't for me!

III. Nobody Likes You

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

I fell asleep while watching Spike TV,

After 10 cups of coffee,

And you're still not here,

Dreamin of a song,

But something went wrong,

And you can't tell anyone,

'Cuz no one's here

Left me here alone,

And I should've stayed home,

After 10 cups of coffee,

I'm thinking,

Where'd you go?

Nobody likes you,

Everyone left you,(Where'd You go)

They're all out without you,

Havin' fun,(Where'd you go)

Everyone left you,

Nobody likes you,(Where'd you go)

They're all out without you,

Havin' fun,(Where'd you go)

(go, go ,go)

IV. Rock And Roll Girlfriend

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

Tre: Geez.....*sigh*...

I got a rock n roll band,

I got a rock n roll life,

I got a rock n roll girlfriend,

And another ex-wife

I got a rock n roll house,

I got a rock n roll car,

I play the s*** out the drums,

And I can play the guitar

I got a kid in New York,

I got a kid in the Bay,

I haven't drank or smoked nothin',

In over 22 days,

So get off of my case

off of my case

off. of. my. case!

V. We're Coming Home Again

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

Here they come marching down the street,

Like a desperation murmur of a heart beat,

Coming back from the edge of town,

Underneath their feet

The time has come and it's going nowhere,

Nobody ever said that life was fair now,

Go-carts and guns are treasures they will bear,

In the summer heat

The world is spinning round and round,

Out of control again,

the 7-11 to the fear of breaking down,

So send my love to letterbomb,

And visit me in hell,

We're the ones going

Home.

We're coming home again

Home.

We're coming home again

I started f****n' running,

as soon as my feet touched ground,

We're back in the barrio,

And to you and me, that's Jingletown thats

Home.

We're coming home again,

Home.

We're coming home again,

Home.

We're coming home again,

Home.

We're coming home again,

Home.

We're coming home again,

Home.

We're coming home again,

Home.

We're coming home again,

Home.

We're coming home again,

Nobody likes you,

Everyone left you,

They're all out without you,

Havin' fun

User:Ciberdude444

2006-04-14T12:26:19Z

Ciberdude444:

===wow, its been a while===

==quotes==
Second place is like being the tallest midget... no one cares.

Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes; that way, when you criticize them you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes!

it is now beyond all doubt that cigarettes are the largest cause of statistics

42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

...Because, if Santa and the holiday armadillo are in the same room for too long, the world will implode... Merry Christmas!!!!
'''-Friends'''

I see you're drinking 1%, is that because you think you're fat? cause your not, you could be drinking whole if you wanted too.
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

yeah, there's a ton of gangs at this school, this one kept on wanting me to join cause I'm pretty good with a bo staf
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

Are You suggesting coconuts migrate?
'''-Monty Python and the Holy Grail'''

so then i said to the guy 'if this is the house of pancakes how come i can't eat the walls?'
'''-Homer Simpson'''

if at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence you tried

===(yeah)===

My heart is beating from me,

I am standing all alone,

Please call me only if you are coming home,

Whatch another year flies by,

Waste a night or two,

You taught me how to live

In the streets of shame,

Where you've lost your dreams in the rain,

There's no signs of hope,

The stems and seeds of the last of the dope,

There's a glow of light,

The St. Jimmy is the spark in the night,

Bearing gifts and trust,

A fixture in the city of lust,

"What the hells your name,

What's your pleasure what is your pain?

Do you dream too much?

Do you think what you need is a crutch?"

In the crowd of pain, St. Jimmy comes without any shame,

He says "We're f****d up,

But we're not the same,

And mom and dad are the ones you can blame"

Jimmy died today

He blew his brains out into the bay,

In the state of mind its my own private suicide

II. East 12th Street

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

Well nobody cares,

Well nobody cares,

Does anyone care if nobody cares?

Well nobody cares,

Well nobody cares,

Does anyone care if nobody cares?

Jesus filling out paperwork now,

At the facility on east 12th Street,

He's not listening to a word now,

He's in his own world,

And he's daydreaming

He'd rather be doing something else now,

Like cigarettes and coffee with the underbelly,

His life's on the line with anxiety now,

'Cuz she had enough,

And he had plenty

Somebody get me out of here,

Anybody get me out of here,

Somebody get me out of here,

Get me the f*** right out of here

So far away,

I don't want to stay,

Get me outta here right now,

I just want to be free,

Is there a possibility?

Get me out of here right now,

This life like dream ain't for me!

III. Nobody Likes You

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

I fell asleep while watching Spike TV,

After 10 cups of coffee,

And you're still not here,

Dreamin of a song,

But something went wrong,

And you can't tell anyone,

'Cuz no one's here

Left me here alone,

And I should've stayed home,

After 10 cups of coffee,

I'm thinking,

Where'd you go?

Nobody likes you,

Everyone left you,(Where'd You go)

They're all out without you,

Havin' fun,(Where'd you go)

Everyone left you,

Nobody likes you,(Where'd you go)

They're all out without you,

Havin' fun,(Where'd you go)

(go, go ,go)

IV. Rock And Roll Girlfriend

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

Tre: Geez.....*sigh*...

I got a rock n roll band,

I got a rock n roll life,

I got a rock n roll girlfriend,

And another ex-wife

I got a rock n roll house,

I got a rock n roll car,

I play the s*** out the drums,

And I can play the guitar

I got a kid in New York,

I got a kid in the Bay,

I haven't drank or smoked nothin',

In over 22 days,

So get off of my case

off of my case

off. of. my. case!

V. We're Coming Home Again

¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

Here they come marching down the street,

Like a desperation murmur of a heart beat,

Coming back from the edge of town,

Underneath their feet

The time has come and it's going nowhere,

Nobody ever said that life was fair now,

Go-carts and guns are treasures they will bear,

In the summer heat

The world is spinning round and round,

Out of control again,

the 7-11 to the fear of breaking down,

So send my love to letterbomb,

And visit me in hell,

We're the ones going

Home.

We're coming home again

Home.

We're coming home again

I started f****n' running,

as soon as my feet touched ground,

We're back in the barrio,

And to you and me, that's Jingletown thats

Home.

We're coming home again,

Home.

We're coming home again,

Home.

We're coming home again,

Home.

We're coming home again,

Home.

We're coming home again,

Home.

We're coming home again,

Home.

We're coming home again,

Home.

We're coming home again,

Nobody likes you,

Everyone left you,

They're all out without you,

Havin' fun

User:Ciberdude444

2006-04-14T12:11:51Z

Ciberdude444: /* quotes */

===wow, its been a while===

==quotes==
Second place is like being the tallest midget... no one cares.

Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes; that way, when you criticize them you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes!

it is now beyond all doubt that cigarettes are the largest cause of statistics

42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

...Because, if Santa and the holiday armadillo are in the same room for too long, the world will implode... Merry Christmas!!!!
'''-Friends'''

I see you're drinking 1%, is that because you think you're fat? cause your not, you could be drinking whole if you wanted too.
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

yeah, there's a ton of gangs at this school, this one kept on wanting me to join cause I'm pretty good with a bo staf
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

Are You suggesting coconuts migrate?
'''-Monty Python and the Holy Grail'''

so then i said to the guy 'if this is the house of pancakes how come i can't eat the walls?'
'''-Homer Simpson'''

if at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence you tried

===(yeah)===

I read the graffiti

In the bathroom stall

Like the holy scriptures of a shopping mall

And so it seemed to confess

It didn't say much

But it only confirmed that

The center of the earth

Is the end of the world

And I could really care less

City of the dead

At the end of another lost highway

Signs misleading to nowhere

City of the d***ed

Lost children with dirty faces today

No one really seems to careeeeee

----

What the hells your name,

What's your pleasure what is your pain?

Do you dream too much?

Do you think what you need is a crutch?"

In the crowd of pain, St. Jimmy comes without any shame,

He says "We're F****d up,

But we're not the same,

And mom and dad are the ones you can blame"

Jimmy died today

He blew his brains out into the bay,

In the state of mind its my own private suicide

==another==
Everybody’s got their problems (problems)
Everybody says the same things to you
It’s just a matter how you solve them (solve them)
And knowing how to change the things you’ve been through

I fear I’ve come to realize
How fast life can be compromised
Stand back to see what’s going on
I can’t believe this happened to you, this happened to you

It’s just a problem that we’re faced with
Am I not the only one that hates to standby
Complication’s headed first in this line
With all these pictures running through my mind

Knowing endless consequences
I feel so useless in this
Get back, step back, and as for me, I can’t believe

Part of me, won’t agree
Cause I don’t know if it’s for sure
Suddenly, suddenly
I don’t feel so insecure [x2]
Anymore

Everybody’s got their problems (problems)
Everybody says the same things to you
It’s just a matter how you solve them (solve them)
What else are we supposed to do

Part of me, won’t agree
Cause I don’t know if it’s for sure
Suddenly, suddenly
I don’t feel so insecure(x2)
Anymore

(why do things that matter the most
Never end up never being what we chose
Now that I find out, it ain’t so bad
I don’t think I knew what I had) [x2]

==one more==
I never thought I'd die alone
I laughed the loudest, who'd have known?
I traced the cord back to the wall
No wonder it was never plugged in at all

I took my time, I hurried up
The choice was mine, I didn't think enough
I'm too depressed to go on
You'll be sorry when I'm gone

I never conquered, rarely came
16 just held such better days
Days when I still felt alive
We couldn't wait to get outside

The world was wide, too late to try
The tour was over, we'd survived
I couldn't wait 'til I got home
To pass the time in my room alone

I never thought I'd die alone
Another six months, I'll be unknown
Give all my things to all my friends
You'll never step foot in my room again

You'll close it off, board it up
Remember the time that I spilled the cup
Of apple juice in the hall
Please tell mom this is not her fault

I never conquered, rarely came
16 just held such better days
Days when I still felt alive
We couldn't wait to get outside

The world was wide, too late to try
The tour was over, we'd survived
I couldn't wait 'til I got home
To pass the time in my room alone

I never conquered, rarely came
Tomorrow holds such better days
Days when I can still feel alive
When I can't wait to get outside

The world is wide, the time goes by
The tour is over, I've survived
I can't wait 'til I get home
To pass the time in my room alone

User:Ciberdude444

2006-04-14T12:10:02Z

Ciberdude444: /* (Yeah) */

===wow, its been a while===

==quotes==
Second place is like being the tallest midget... no one cares.

Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes; that way, when you criticize them you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes!

it is now beyond all doubt that cigarettes are the largest cause of statistics

42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

...Because, if Santa and the holiday armadillo are in the same room for too long, the world will implode... Merry Christmas!!!!
'''-Friends'''

I see you're drinking 1%, is that because you think you're fat? cause your not, you could be drinking whole if you wanted too.
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

yeah, there's a ton of gangs at this school, this one kept on wanting me to join cause I'm pretty good with a bo staf
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

Are You suggesting coconuts migrate?
'''-Monty Python and the Holy Grail'''

so then i said to the guy 'if this is the house of pancakes how come i can't eat the walls?'
'''-Homer Simpson'''

if at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence you tried

I read the graffiti
In the bathroom stall
Like the holy scriptures of a shopping mall
And so it seemed to confess
It didn't say much
But it only confirmed that
The center of the earth
Is the end of the world
And I could really care less

City of the dead
At the end of another lost highway
Signs misleading to nowhere
City of the d***ed
Lost children with dirty faces today
No one really seems to careeeeee

----

What the hells your name,
What's your pleasure what is your pain?
Do you dream too much?
Do you think what you need is a crutch?"

In the crowd of pain, St. Jimmy comes without any shame,
He says "We're F****d up,
But we're not the same,
And mom and dad are the ones you can blame"

Jimmy died today

He blew his brains out into the bay,
In the state of mind its my own private suicide

==another==
Everybody’s got their problems (problems)
Everybody says the same things to you
It’s just a matter how you solve them (solve them)
And knowing how to change the things you’ve been through

I fear I’ve come to realize
How fast life can be compromised
Stand back to see what’s going on
I can’t believe this happened to you, this happened to you

It’s just a problem that we’re faced with
Am I not the only one that hates to standby
Complication’s headed first in this line
With all these pictures running through my mind

Knowing endless consequences
I feel so useless in this
Get back, step back, and as for me, I can’t believe

Part of me, won’t agree
Cause I don’t know if it’s for sure
Suddenly, suddenly
I don’t feel so insecure [x2]
Anymore

Everybody’s got their problems (problems)
Everybody says the same things to you
It’s just a matter how you solve them (solve them)
What else are we supposed to do

Part of me, won’t agree
Cause I don’t know if it’s for sure
Suddenly, suddenly
I don’t feel so insecure(x2)
Anymore

(why do things that matter the most
Never end up never being what we chose
Now that I find out, it ain’t so bad
I don’t think I knew what I had) [x2]

==one more==
I never thought I'd die alone
I laughed the loudest, who'd have known?
I traced the cord back to the wall
No wonder it was never plugged in at all

I took my time, I hurried up
The choice was mine, I didn't think enough
I'm too depressed to go on
You'll be sorry when I'm gone

I never conquered, rarely came
16 just held such better days
Days when I still felt alive
We couldn't wait to get outside

The world was wide, too late to try
The tour was over, we'd survived
I couldn't wait 'til I got home
To pass the time in my room alone

I never thought I'd die alone
Another six months, I'll be unknown
Give all my things to all my friends
You'll never step foot in my room again

You'll close it off, board it up
Remember the time that I spilled the cup
Of apple juice in the hall
Please tell mom this is not her fault

I never conquered, rarely came
16 just held such better days
Days when I still felt alive
We couldn't wait to get outside

The world was wide, too late to try
The tour was over, we'd survived
I couldn't wait 'til I got home
To pass the time in my room alone

I never conquered, rarely came
Tomorrow holds such better days
Days when I can still feel alive
When I can't wait to get outside

The world is wide, the time goes by
The tour is over, I've survived
I can't wait 'til I get home
To pass the time in my room alone

User:Ciberdude444

2006-04-14T11:59:52Z

Ciberdude444: /* hello everyone... I'm back!!! muahahahahahahahahahahahaha */

===wow, its been a while===

==quotes==
Second place is like being the tallest midget... no one cares.

Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes; that way, when you criticize them you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes!

it is now beyond all doubt that cigarettes are the largest cause of statistics

42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

...Because, if Santa and the holiday armadillo are in the same room for too long, the world will implode... Merry Christmas!!!!
'''-Friends'''

I see you're drinking 1%, is that because you think you're fat? cause your not, you could be drinking whole if you wanted too.
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

yeah, there's a ton of gangs at this school, this one kept on wanting me to join cause I'm pretty good with a bo staf
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

Are You suggesting coconuts migrate?
'''-Monty Python and the Holy Grail'''

so then i said to the guy 'if this is the house of pancakes how come i can't eat the walls?'
'''-Homer Simpson'''

if at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence you tried

==(Yeah)==

Say, Hey!

Hear the sound of the falling rain

Coming down like an Armageddon flame

The shame

The ones who died without a name

Hear the dogs howling out of key

To a hymn called "Faith and Misery"

And bleed

The company that lost the war today

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

Hear the drum pounding out of time

Another protester has crossed the line

To find

The money's on the other side

Can I get another Amen? (Amen!)

There's a flag wrapped around a score of men

A gag

A plastic bag on a monument

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

"The representative from California has the floor"

Zieg heil to the president gasman,

Bombs away is your punishment.

Pulverize the Eiffel towers,

Who criticize your government.

Bang, Bang goes the broken glass and

Kill all the fags that don't agree.

Trials by fire, setting fires

Is not a way that's meant for me.

Just cause, just cause, because we're outlaws, yeah!

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives

This is our lives,

On holiday!

==another==
Everybody’s got their problems (problems)
Everybody says the same things to you
It’s just a matter how you solve them (solve them)
And knowing how to change the things you’ve been through

I fear I’ve come to realize
How fast life can be compromised
Stand back to see what’s going on
I can’t believe this happened to you, this happened to you

It’s just a problem that we’re faced with
Am I not the only one that hates to standby
Complication’s headed first in this line
With all these pictures running through my mind

Knowing endless consequences
I feel so useless in this
Get back, step back, and as for me, I can’t believe

Part of me, won’t agree
Cause I don’t know if it’s for sure
Suddenly, suddenly
I don’t feel so insecure [x2]
Anymore

Everybody’s got their problems (problems)
Everybody says the same things to you
It’s just a matter how you solve them (solve them)
What else are we supposed to do

Part of me, won’t agree
Cause I don’t know if it’s for sure
Suddenly, suddenly
I don’t feel so insecure(x2)
Anymore

(why do things that matter the most
Never end up never being what we chose
Now that I find out, it ain’t so bad
I don’t think I knew what I had) [x2]

==one more==
I never thought I'd die alone
I laughed the loudest, who'd have known?
I traced the cord back to the wall
No wonder it was never plugged in at all

I took my time, I hurried up
The choice was mine, I didn't think enough
I'm too depressed to go on
You'll be sorry when I'm gone

I never conquered, rarely came
16 just held such better days
Days when I still felt alive
We couldn't wait to get outside

The world was wide, too late to try
The tour was over, we'd survived
I couldn't wait 'til I got home
To pass the time in my room alone

I never thought I'd die alone
Another six months, I'll be unknown
Give all my things to all my friends
You'll never step foot in my room again

You'll close it off, board it up
Remember the time that I spilled the cup
Of apple juice in the hall
Please tell mom this is not her fault

I never conquered, rarely came
16 just held such better days
Days when I still felt alive
We couldn't wait to get outside

The world was wide, too late to try
The tour was over, we'd survived
I couldn't wait 'til I got home
To pass the time in my room alone

I never conquered, rarely came
Tomorrow holds such better days
Days when I can still feel alive
When I can't wait to get outside

The world is wide, the time goes by
The tour is over, I've survived
I can't wait 'til I get home
To pass the time in my room alone

User talk:Ciberdude444

2006-02-12T17:39:13Z

Ciberdude444: /* Do you? */

User talk:Ciberdude444

2006-02-12T17:39:03Z

Ciberdude444: /* Happy */

User talk:Ciberdude444

2006-02-12T17:38:47Z

Ciberdude444: /* Welcome list */

User talk:Ciberdude444

2006-02-07T03:10:14Z

Ciberdude444:

== awesome...lyrics, man...lyrics... ==

I lurve the lyrics you put on our user page. I LOVE, absitively posilutely LOVE that song! Yeah, just wanted to stop in and say that. Do you have the CD? {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 17:53, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:no but i have a few songs from it {{user:Ciberdude444/sig}}

== Welcome list ==

I noticed that you haven't been formally welcoming people, and also asked [[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] if you could join the committee. I'll answer it for you: go right ahead. Those lists are open to anyone so that our members can become better involved in the wiki. If you would like to welcome a user, simply copy and paste this into their user talk page: <nowiki>{{subst:welcome|~~~|~~~~}}</nowiki>. This will enter the welcome message and your name, signature, and time stamp. If you need anything else, drop me a note on my [[User talk:Teh Frossty One|talk page]]. {{User:Teh_Frossty_One/sig}} 18:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:But you should also read [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee]] first! (By the way, I did answer on my talk page—saying, well, basically what's just been said here.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:26, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

==Happy==
Wow; fast draw! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:39, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:too fast i put the wrong ip on the troll list. it had the same frist 2 digits [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 18:41, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::Well the correct one was blocked, and that's all that really matters. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} @ 18:50, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

User talk:It's dot com

2006-02-05T15:15:48Z

Ciberdude444: /* unbanned */

{{User talk:It's dot com/teasers}}
= <div style="background:#BE0023; color:#fff; width:98%; padding-bottom:0.3em; padding-top:0.3em; padding-left:2%"> Trogdor! </div> =

== Mean to young people? ==

You're my least favorite admin ever.
:Well, <s>''Bubsty''</s> <small>(I was close. See below)</small>, one of the things you learn as an admin is that you can't please everybody all the time. I am, however, open to constructive criticism, so I'm a little disappointed that you didn't give me any more to go on than that one line. Or that you didn't at least sign your name. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:23, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
::What? Did Bubsty write that? {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 20:37, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Indeed. ''EDIT: Actually, his sister said that it was she who wrote the comment.'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::Or perhaps somebody from his computer or something. He did [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Da_Basement&diff=prev&oldid=241561 refer to Bubsty in the third person]... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:33, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::How did this person edit da Basement? Didn't you block him for 3 days, TBird? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:35, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Yes, he did, but I unblocked the IP, since the edit wasn't trolling or vandalism. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I see. And in response to Thunderbird's comment: I don't know that third person is really evidence it wasn't he; he could have been covering his tracks. What ''does'' baffle me, however, is that that IP wrote false information about Bubsty's guestbook being gone, when in fact Bubsty himself removed the deletion tag from his guestbook, something one would think Bubsty would know. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Haha, I just mentioned that point a minute ago. But on IRC- I didn't bother updating my theory here. Thanks for pointing that out. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::That was me! Not Erik! And he told me he left the wiki, so I thought he had deleted his guestbook too. [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 04:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Sigh*. So much for me leaving. Seems I have some explaining to do. Some things to clear this whole thing up:
::::::::::First off, I '''''DID NOT''''' write that comment above. I recently showed Sarah the comment you left on my user talk page a while ago telling me to stop using the list of users list to welcome people. Although I really didn't care that much about what you had written, she seemed to think of it as rude and insulting. I assume that comment was her "blowing off steam".
::::::::::It seems Dot Com thinks Thekillerdynamo is me. If you still have any questions about this whole thing, ''please'' tell me. I'll try to explain it.
::::::::::Finally, I'm really sorry (not to mentioned embarrased), that this whole thing happened. I'll '''try''' to have something like this ''never'' happen again. (Depends if a certain family member agrees).
::::::::::Sincerely,
::::::::::{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:22, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Well, as you can see below, all I knew for sure was that the edits were coming from your house. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
You do a lot on this wiki, but you're mean to the young people here. 10, 11, 12, and 13 year olds shouldn't have to act like a 28-year-old!
Can't you just be a ''bit'' nicer? I think more people would like you then.
Please; I'm not trolling - although I did blank your talk page. But that was so you would see this easier.
If you revert it (which I'm sure you will) can you at least think about being ''nicer''?
Once again, sorry for messing up your talk page. Just please read. Thanks! [[User:24.18.208.18|24.18.208.18]] 04:58, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:PS: I think you're still a good admin. Just show some commen sense. (Of course, I should talk; Look who's about to get themselves blocked!)
:PPS: Oh, and about my first edit on this page; I admit that was me. But that was back when I didn't know what a wiki was and didn't know who you were. You ''aren't'' my least favorite admin ever. In fact, you're one of my favs! If you want to block me for that, go ahead; I deserve it.
::Why don't you log in so we can discuss this. Talking through an IP address isn't the kind of conversation we should be having. I'm not going to block you. If I wanted to block you, I would have blocked your IP a long time ago. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Ok, I made a user. [[User:That One User|That One User]] 06:29, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I don't mean make a sockpuppet, I mean log in as yourself. You have obviously been around for a bit for you to hold the opinion you do, and, looking closely, you are either Bubsty or, at the very least, someone inside his house. So, c'mon now, Erik, Sarah, whoever... log in for real if you actually want to talk. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:05, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::How did you know? [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 00:49, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Hang on now, let me make sure I have this right... You're telling me that someone who has [[Special:Contributions/Thekillerdynamo|18 total contributions]] (as of this writing, none of which are in the article namespace) and to whom the only thing [[User talk:It's dot com/These Peoples Try to Fade Me#Hi_from_Thekillerdynamo|I've ever said]] is "Welcome to the wiki, Sarah! Ask your brother to show you how to sign your name," would suddenly and for no apparent reason get so annoyed with me as to <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:It%27s_dot_com&diff=240812&oldid=240757 put this]</span> on my page? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't add up. Perhaps you could explain yourself a little... or come clean. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:37, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Seems odd right? Actully, I've just seen what you've said to other people (like the thing) and what you said to Bubsty that one time. That was why I said "you're my least favorite admin ever". When you said that thing about user welcoming... something like that. But I'm not mad anymore. [[User:Thekillerdynamo|Thekillerdynamo]] 04:01, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::: Oh, okay then. Please allow me to speak to your points: Occasionally messages must be posted that are stern because it's urgent that the message be understood. (In the case of the message I sent your brother, it was because of the fact that edit summaries can't be changed, and so we have to be careful what we put in them.) I do try, however, never to be insulting, and as I said way back when, I do apologize if he took it that way. Also, I have nothing against young users, and I will happily give assistance to anyone who needs it (just have a look around this talk page). It should be noted that several of our exceptional users, including a sysop, are quite young, relatively speaking. Even though actual age doesn't matter, I don't see anything wrong with expecting a certain level of maturity from our users, once they've had a chance to get the hang of things. The wiki, after all, is not a toy. I think BazookaJoe put it quite well in his message to The thing when he talked about what <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:The_thing&oldid=242251 the purpose]</span> of this wiki is. All of this can only bring us to one conclusion: ...Strong Sad's [[caffeine#Transcript|adopted]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

== Well this is (not) nice... ==

I'd just like to bring this to your attention: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Homestar_Coder&diff=242152&oldid=242150]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I noticed that. I don't know what that guy's deal is. He is addressing Coder, so I'd prefer she be the one to respond to him. That edit could be called trolling (in the true sense of the word), but it's not vandalism. Until and unless he causes more, bigger trouble, I'ma stay out of it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:12, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::I was thinking it was more along the lines of harassment. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:43, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Still, if she wants to block him, she has the power. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah. Very well I just thought I'd bring that up. Have a good night. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:55, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Thanks for bringing it up. I'll be keeping an eye on that guy for sure. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:09, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::This guy has some kind of anger management problem, and I think not responding to him is the best course of action. I don't even know where he gets this stuff; I've never blocked him (although I did warn him that he might be blocked for mucking up the Sandbox), called him any names (especially not "incredibly gay" - all the people I've known who are actually incredibly gay are far more mature than that guy ;) ), or confused him with Willy on Wheels. If he wants to periodically upchuck on my talk page, whatever. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:14, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Apparantly this is all because of [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Character_Evolution&diff=next&oldid=175719 this revert]. I'm really confused as to how posting a few images constitutes two to three hours work as well as hating Homestar Coder for reverting it. Additionally, it didn't really fit; those images were all over the place. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 01:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, I thought I [[User talk:Homestar Coder/MayAug2005#character evolution|explained reasonably]] that the pictures made the page cluttery; at the time, I was also trying to get that page deleted as I considered it redundant with [[:Category:Character Evolution]]. *shrug* {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 01:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== Whoa! ==

[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:It%27s_dot_com&diff=243608&oldid=242626 Wow.] --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:02, 21 January 2006 (UTC) <small>(And here I was trying to come up with some cool archive style for mine...)</small>
:It's dot com has archived his talk page? Saddle up my flying pig; I'm goin' ice skating in hell! (But seriously—I'm digging the topical groupings.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:24, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::Wow. I love that format! Keep on... making-great-stuff! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 08:33, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Quite impressive. Looks snazzy, and loads alot faster. Now we've just gotta convince [[User talk:Tom|Tom]]... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 08:45, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
::::This is the greatest thing ever. Would you mind terribly if I bit your style and did a similar thing? :) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::With a comment like that, how could I possibly refuse? You are more than welcome to take my coolness and rework it to achieve your own brand of awesomeness. (Never mind all that GFDL nonsense.) :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::YAYZ. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

== what happened ==

Hey it's dot com, what happened to your discussion page? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:48, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

:well, he archived it. this means that at the top, you can just go to the links and they will lead you to the headlines. pretty cool, huh?

::Yeah, I just couldn't take all the whining from all you guys anymore. ;) But I figured out a compromise between keeping all the talk on this page and moving it all to an archive, so I went with it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

:::i wasn't whining. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 00:39, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::::I know. But take a look through the archives and you'll find quite a few requests for me to do so, and there were innumerable chat conversations to that effect as well. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:17, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== i believe... ==
that you are an amazing user. you are just in everything you do. i think it is inspiring how much you care for the betterment of the wiki. you block only the most important users. you recently blocked someone i know. i just want you to know that you are doing the right thing. thank you.
:Is this from [[User:Thatkidyoualllove|Thatkidyoualllove]]? If so, why would you want me to block your brother? You guys must be like my brothers and I are. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::yeah, he hates my guts. and that's why he will never disobey me and come on a website too cool for him again. heheheh....{{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== I want to be a sysop ==

Do you no wen the next sysop election is gonna be? {{User:The thing/sig}} 16:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:Depends on several things. Why do you ask? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::I wanna be one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 16:27, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Really? How come? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:29, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I want to be a sysop. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:31, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::Right. You just said that. I'm asking why you want to be a sysop. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:33, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::Because I want to be able to: Block, Delete, Edit special pages... all the stuff sysops can do. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:48, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Why do you want to be able to do all those things? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::I can't really explain it but I know stuff that should be done that no one has done. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 16:54, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, ''try'' to explain. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::I know stuff that should be done that no one has done. Like people that should of been blocked pages that needed deletion plus I want to help the wiki as much as I can. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::Who needs to be blocked? Which pages need deletion? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:12, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::Well there gone now but there used to be some. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::What's gone? The people, or the pages? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::If there is a person abusing the Wiki, or a page that doesn't have any need, there are ways of alerting sysops even if you're not one (add abusers to [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]] and add the "tobedeleted" template to bad pages.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:19, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Both are gone but the main reason I want to be a sysop is so I can help the wiki as much a possible. --{{User:The thing/sig}} 17:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::It's admirable to want to help the wiki. We need as many people—sysops and users alike—who will do that.<br/>    Around here, we consider several factors when choosing whom to make sysops, and the most important consideration is trustworthiness. A close second is participation in the project. Rounding out the top six are the ability to deal with other users (especially in mediating disputes or deciding when to step in), technical know-how, the necessity for another position (that is, whether or not the wiki needs more sysops at any given time), and finally seniority. ([[bottom 10|Number seven]] on the top-six list is [[Senor Cardgage|senority]], which is the ability to make bad H*R-related jokes.)<br/>    With those things in mind, at this time I would not be comfortable with making you a sysop. Not long ago, you vandalized this wiki and less than a day ago you were blocked from the fanstuff wiki for persistent trolling. I think it will take a while for people to trust you again after that. Additionally, you currently don't meet the [[User_talk:It%27s_dot_com/Let%27s_Get_Started_on_Doing_All_Those_Awesome_Things_I_Suggested#How_to_become_a_sysop|participation requirements]]. That is, you really don't have that many edits in the main or talk namespace nor have you done a big project. I haven't seen how you handle stress or abuse from problematic users and I don't know the status of your technical know-how (again, because I don't have a large sample of edits from which to judge). Last (and this one matters the least to me but is nevertheless important) there's the question of seniority: In other words, even if all else were equal, quite a few deserving people have been here a lot longer than you, and would thus be ahead of you in line whenever we promote the next user(s).<br/>    Please don't think I'm trying to be overly discouraging, but your persistence in asking has made me want to be as unambiguous as possible. (By the way, asking for a position of power—no matter where you are (except maybe Wikipedia)—is a sure way to guarantee that the position will ''not'' be handed to you. Just so you know.) I encourage you to read the link above about the requirements and follow its advice. Over time, perhaps a long time, if you make good contributions and keep your nose clean, then you might be more seriously considered. Until then, keep on tranglin'. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:45, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::::Darn --{{User:The thing/sig}} 19:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

To The Thing: Personally, I'd love to be able to do all those things as well, but being given a position of power doesn't come free - [[Halloween Potion-ma-jig|You just gotta ''earn'' it!]] And to It's dot com: I found this whole conversation quite amusing. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:51, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps there should be a page devoting to answering the question "How do I become a sysop?" I see it asked a LOT. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 01:54, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:Perhaps part of the FAQ? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 01:57, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::I really liked your idea, KieferSkunk, and decided to '''be bold''' and add it myself. It's composed mainly from the large paragraph above, but also from the talk section it links to, and my personal knowledge. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 02:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

:::'''It's dot com:''' Yada yada yada sysop yada yada trust yada seniority yada yada yada edits yada yada yada long speech yada yada...<br>
:::'''The thing:''' Darn<br>
{{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 01:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC) P.S. No offense to either of you. I just found that funny.
::::One other thing, Thing: as I'm sure any of the sysops can tell you, it might not be as fun as it looks from the other side of the fence. It means a butteload of ''work'', and a commitment to a certain amount of involvement and responsibilities. It's like the Spiderman thing (you know, "With great power...). <small>(Except it ''doesn't'' come with the ability to swing through Manhattan streets in spandex.)</small> Also, about helping the wiki: yeah, deleting pages and blocking folks help, but it's really only a small percentage of the work that improves the wiki: the bulk of it is regular users editting and reviewing each other's edits. In other words, you ''already'' have the power for the single biggest part of wiki-helping that goes on. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

:::::Nevermind I'm a sysop on [http://weirdal.wikicities.com/ My own wiki] now. But it would still be cool to be one. {{User:The thing/sig}} 21:59, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

== i'm back ==
hey, it's dot com. i just got unblocked this morning. i want to say you did the right thing, and that now i will probably be spending less time on the wiki, so when i get blocked the next time it won't suck so bad. ah well. anyway, like i said, you did the completely right thing, and i hope you become an admin for what you did. thanks.
p.s. if i get blocked another time, please make it indefinite. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:02, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

:um....[[User: Yeltensic]] just made a rude remark on the guestbook discussion page, and you should check it out. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 14:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

::I am aware of it and have posted comments. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

:::good. that was just plain crude. if he pulls some stunt like that again just because [[User: Darth Katana X|Darth Katana X]] told him to, i suggest you block him. look on yeltensic's talk page if you don't know what i am talking about. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 15:06, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Well I found out about the discussion from Darth, but I didn't "pull some stunt like that" because Darth told me to, he didn't tell me to do that. So leave Darth out of it, he didn't do anything (well maybe he did, but if so it was unrelated). [[User:Yeltensic|Yeltensic]] [[User talk:Yeltensic|Save the guestbooks]] 21:21, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::I apoligize. I now understand. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 23:01, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== That image ==

Just so you know, the reason I restored that image for "[[It's like it was meant to be]]" is just because Homestar Coder and Abdi both expressed their support for it and I felt that the person who removed it was acting rather unilaterally. I don't mind its removal as much if there's actually someone else who agrees about removing it, though. Anyway, keep on tranglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Oh, and Thunderbird has added a different image. Maybe this one will work well? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::I don't have a super-strong opinion that page, but the first image just didn't seem to fit, in my opinion. I did have an idea, though (the Wagon Fulla Pancakes). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say the same about not having a super-strong opinion; I just wanted to see things done fairly. (I try not to be too committed to my own ideas around the wiki. I find it only leads to disappointment when your edit gets reverted or your Fun Fact gets crushingly declined in STUFF. Not to mention you get along in the community better if you just go with the flow and be ready to get REVERT'd a few times, eh?) And yeah, I saw your new idea, and I think it's hilarious. "Rondelman, you crack me up! Crack! Me! Up! That's why you're my doge!" Anydangway, talk atcha later! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::::I added a link to the article cuz i wasn't sure at first which article you were talking about. I definitely like the new pic! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:21, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== CAPTCHA ==

I wanted to know what you did to get CAPTCHA up and running on 1.5.6. I stopped by the IRC channel & was told to ask you about it. :) On freenode, I am earthsound (registered user). Also, you can reach me at gmail.com (same user name).
Thanks!
:(He and I spoke via the chat channel, and the gist of the discussion was that I was not the author of the software, just an assistant implementor, and I directed him to the software author. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:41, 25 January 2006 (UTC))

== The ongoing saga ==
um, someone left a message on my talk page stating that it was weird that trendy totebag did not sign on while i was blocked. i know i may be wrong, but i suspect the anonymous user was, well, you know enough to figure it out. the writing, the splling....it's all the same. you probably can't match the ip addresses, but i would like it if you did. or he just didn't leave a sig, and you can check the contribs. thank you. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 21:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
:Um, there's really no mystery, since he was logged in when he made that edit. I have taken care of it. *sigh* — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, you must be tired of our bickering. It seems i am stupid enough to not stop until i get blocked, so i guess i deserved to be. '''ah well.''' {{User:Seriously/sig}} 00:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:::I don't mean to rub it in, but EIGHT MINUTES?! Nice, real nice. Eight min. is all it takes to get blocked. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 01:03, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Has Matt? ON WHEELS! ==

Thanks for clearing up all those page moves on my user space. I seriously was actually ''laughing'' the whole time it was happening. I think my userpage had at least 12 "ON WHEELS!" in the page title. My first time being WoW'd. Ever. Well, anyway, thanks a lot! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 04:14, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:No probalo. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:17, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::Wow! someone must really like you! Ooo! ooo! Here's an idea (stemming from our basement discussion that should really go there but i'm sure the discussion has been archived): use the Captcha (ok maybe it's not such as hot of an idea now that i see the page move history) for making moves for all users (since we move pages seldom). But i guess these moves ''were'' done manually! Interesting. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Actually, I believe the CAPTCHA image is used in move processes for all users. I had to use it. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 04:23, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh yeah! you're right! It is! I just saw it when i hit the move button in your pa— *points* LOOK! *Runs away* --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== .swf decompiler ==

Where did you find a .swf decompiler? Stuntman021

:I use [http://www.eltima.com/products/flashdecompiler/ Flash Decompiler] by Eltima. A free download is available (which is the version I have, and it meets my needs pretty well), and the full version looks to have a lot of features. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:53, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

== G'bye ==
dot, I think I am going to take a break from the wiki. I just wanted you to answer a question of mine: do you ever feel like the wiki ends up affecting more than just the wiki aspect of your life? I mean, Ciberdude's got my IM screenname and my email address, and he won't stop from either. I know you can't help me with this, but I think I have to make myself a little more discreet the next time I come on here. That's why I'm taking a break. Just act like I'm gone for good, okay? I'll be back soon, just not for a while. Thanks for all the privelages. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:41, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, giving out personal info can be useful, but it can come back to haunt you sometimes. Take care, man. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
::I will. And even if you lose your sysop privelages, block ciberdork while I am gone. I'll still edit anonymously. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:46, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Seriously, Seriously, you say the weirdest things. Talk atcha later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Seriosuly, Seriously. I mean Seriously. What. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:53, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::So, i finally learned to block email addresses, and IM ones too. So.....I guess I'm on the wiki again, and once again I am wildly exaggerating like I always do. Ah well. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 22:04, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

== What did you do ==
I would just like to make a counterpoint to hating guestbooks, even though the discussion is over. Have you ever thoguht how much sigs should be deleted? You must have, because if you are going to delete guestbooks like you did, the exact same reasons apply to sigs. People working on their sigs clutters up the recent changes, I know because I do it '''all the time'''. Sigs are not contributing to the wiki, just like you insist guestbooks don't. And finally, They give no proof that someone ever read your userpage, something that by the way is something that people either do or don't but that shouldn't matter to anyone else. I just think that What you and the admins did was entirely opinionated. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 22:45, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
:No proof, eh? Well, I guess that someone could read a user page in a matter of seconds and then promptly sign a guestbook. Not all sigs clog recent changes, just yours. Sigs are a means of identifying a user, and thus serve a purpose. I am not meaning to reply for It's dot com, but I just wanted to say this. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 22:58, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
::Also, I bet a lot of sig flooding could be stopped if people just used "Show Preview". --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::: Sigs exist anyway; you edit them in your user preferences (which does not show up on Recentchanges). The custom, however, is to create a User/sig template and use ''that'' as your sig. The User/sig versions are used because:
:::# They're easier to edit.
:::# If you edit one, ''all'' of your signatures change. If you edit the sig in your preferences, only ''future'' signatures change.
::: What's more, custom sigs of any sort allow links to your Talk or Contributions page, and make it easier to tell who's who (if you see a light blue sig with a green "Talk" area, it's probably me. If you see a gold-colored sig with symbols on both sides, it's likely Thunderbird. etc.) I'd take that over not being able to tell if I've previously read a user page. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:29, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
:::And, by the way, it was not the admins' decision to remove them; they may have started the voting, but ''everyone with a user name'' could vote. I abstained voting entirely because I don't really care. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:32, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Got it. Reluctantly. {{User: Seriously/sig}} 00:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

Sorry about re-making those User_talk:Drwho? pages. I wuz trying to mark them delete but you already deleted them. {{User:The thing/sig}} 23:47, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:That's okay. Just remember to wait a couple of minutes between postings if you think that might be happening. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

== Two Questions ==

Hey Dot com, what's up? I have two questions. First, where did you post that discussion where someone was asking how to do links that were not underlined and you tried an example which didn't quite work correctly? (This is indirectly related:) I was wondering if you could take a look at [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects|this]] issue. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:34, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:See [[#Super-plain_link]]. Note: old how-to questions from my talk page are filed under ''The System Is Down → Technical help''. On your second question, I'm not sure what you're asking. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
::For the first question, I looked briefly and couldn't find it (actually i scanned the page twice) but couldn't find it. I was scanning too quickly. As for the second issue, it turns out to be a firefox issue :(. Nerd42's sig goes beyond the table borders for some reason. I looked at the sig code and all the tags were closed off. I hope you have a copy of firefox to look at this cuz i'm not gonna provide a screenshot of it right away! ;) I gotta eat! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I'd post it in a more central place, like the FAQ talk. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Good idea! Just so you know, I found out another reason why you wouldn't be able to see it: resolution. The problem only happens when you wrap text a certain way. As a result, I have [[User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects#Strange|posted]] an [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/Projects&oldid=255516#Timeline_project update] and a [[:Image:Nerd42sigProblem.png|screenshot]] of the problem, as well as an inquiry in the [[HRWiki_talk:FAQ#Sig_image_bug|FAQ talk page]]. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:45, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== trolling ==

Just so I can learn the game a little more, how did you know that those last few blocks were Yeltensic, I looked in the user contribs and didn't see much. Teach me OB1, your my only hope :-P {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 16:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, often times he makes a remark that identifies him as, in fact, yeltensic. If he didn't do that, then I'll step aside and let dot comster answer this. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 17:22, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I just looked at the blcok log, and I have to admit I am confused. He must have matched the IP addresses. Also, there are two new users that are created. How do we know they're not yeltensic? {{User:Seriously/sig}}

:User:18593095NSMC90531234 wasn't trolling. I heard about the NSMC people but mabe this wasn't. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:03, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

::Yes he was. I didn't say vandalism, I said trolling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:06, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::How? {{User:The thing/sig}}

::::I agree with The thing on this one. Even though he might look like NSMC at first glance, take a look at the article on Uncyclopedia [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/HRWIKI about our wiki]. At the near bottom, it says "If you happen to be new, register with the username: 18593095NSMC90531234 - Trust me, it'll be fun." This is the ''exact same username''. It seems to me that this guy just didn't know anything about NSMC or this wiki and got Punk'd. He wasn't doing anything bad (yet), so why block him because of "trolling"? Although I would suggest that he get a better username. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 22:11, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::Yea. {{User:The thing/sig}} 22:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::LLok at this '''North Shore Medical Center''' same first letters. {{User:The thing/sig}}

::::::I know exactly where he got the username, and it's the reason I knew what his intentions were. Trolling is the (usually intentional) provocation of a person or community with the aim of getting a negative reaction. Even if he just did it on a lark (which I doubt), he should know better than to blindly follow instructions he came across in a place like that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== The big day ==
I blieve ciberdude444 is now unblocked. would I be allowed to post a message on my user page saying welcome back? Feel free to say no; it probably gives you nightmares thinking about this crap still going on. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 03:14, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:Well, let me quote myself from your talk page, and then maybe you can tell me the correct answer. "Do not edit the user page or the user talk page of Ciberdude444 ever again. Pretend that he does not exist. Do not reply to his comments on other talk pages." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:24, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
::Wow, harsh. Very un-''it's dot com''-like. Now I'm curious to see what he did that was so bad!... Checking the block log... {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 03:44, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Ok, now I realized I've extremely embarassed myself, so.....I'ma go on IRC and pretend I never asked that question. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 04:08, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== unbanned ==

hey, i was unbanned yesterday and i wanted you to know that im done fighing with seriously, i want to be able to talk to him on pages if i start another fight or participate in another figh then by all mean bann me. CiberDude 15:10, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
oh, btw i know you wont check it cuz u never do but i think SomekidnamedIke is seriously too. i have seriously's ip so if u just check SomekidnamedIke's ip i can match it

User talk:It's dot com

2006-02-05T15:15:12Z

Ciberdude444: /* unbanned */

User:Ciberdude444

2006-02-05T15:13:17Z

Ciberdude444: /* hello everyone... I'm back!!!... again... AGAIN!!! */

===hello everyone... I'm back!!! muahahahahahahahahahahahaha===

==quotes==
Second place is like being the tallest midget... no one cares.

Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes; that way, when you criticize them you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes!

it is now beyond all doubt that cigarettes are the largest cause of statistics

42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

...Because, if Santa and the holiday armadillo are in the same room for too long, the world will implode... Merry Christmas!!!!
'''-Friends'''

I see you're drinking 1%, is that because you think you're fat? cause your not, you could be drinking whole if you wanted too.
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

yeah, there's a ton of gangs at this school, this one kept on wanting me to join cause I'm pretty good with a bo staf
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

Are You suggesting coconuts migrate?
'''-Monty Python and the Holy Grail'''

so then i said to the guy 'if this is the house of pancakes how come i can't eat the walls?'
'''-Homer Simpson'''

if at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence you tried

==(Yeah)==

Say, Hey!

Hear the sound of the falling rain

Coming down like an Armageddon flame

The shame

The ones who died without a name

Hear the dogs howling out of key

To a hymn called "Faith and Misery"

And bleed

The company that lost the war today

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

Hear the drum pounding out of time

Another protester has crossed the line

To find

The money's on the other side

Can I get another Amen? (Amen!)

There's a flag wrapped around a score of men

A gag

A plastic bag on a monument

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

"The representative from California has the floor"

Zieg heil to the president gasman,

Bombs away is your punishment.

Pulverize the Eiffel towers,

Who criticize your government.

Bang, Bang goes the broken glass and

Kill all the fags that don't agree.

Trials by fire, setting fires

Is not a way that's meant for me.

Just cause, just cause, because we're outlaws, yeah!

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives

This is our lives,

On holiday!

==another==
Everybody’s got their problems (problems)
Everybody says the same things to you
It’s just a matter how you solve them (solve them)
And knowing how to change the things you’ve been through

I fear I’ve come to realize
How fast life can be compromised
Stand back to see what’s going on
I can’t believe this happened to you, this happened to you

It’s just a problem that we’re faced with
Am I not the only one that hates to standby
Complication’s headed first in this line
With all these pictures running through my mind

Knowing endless consequences
I feel so useless in this
Get back, step back, and as for me, I can’t believe

Part of me, won’t agree
Cause I don’t know if it’s for sure
Suddenly, suddenly
I don’t feel so insecure [x2]
Anymore

Everybody’s got their problems (problems)
Everybody says the same things to you
It’s just a matter how you solve them (solve them)
What else are we supposed to do

Part of me, won’t agree
Cause I don’t know if it’s for sure
Suddenly, suddenly
I don’t feel so insecure(x2)
Anymore

(why do things that matter the most
Never end up never being what we chose
Now that I find out, it ain’t so bad
I don’t think I knew what I had) [x2]

==one more==
I never thought I'd die alone
I laughed the loudest, who'd have known?
I traced the cord back to the wall
No wonder it was never plugged in at all

I took my time, I hurried up
The choice was mine, I didn't think enough
I'm too depressed to go on
You'll be sorry when I'm gone

I never conquered, rarely came
16 just held such better days
Days when I still felt alive
We couldn't wait to get outside

The world was wide, too late to try
The tour was over, we'd survived
I couldn't wait 'til I got home
To pass the time in my room alone

I never thought I'd die alone
Another six months, I'll be unknown
Give all my things to all my friends
You'll never step foot in my room again

You'll close it off, board it up
Remember the time that I spilled the cup
Of apple juice in the hall
Please tell mom this is not her fault

I never conquered, rarely came
16 just held such better days
Days when I still felt alive
We couldn't wait to get outside

The world was wide, too late to try
The tour was over, we'd survived
I couldn't wait 'til I got home
To pass the time in my room alone

I never conquered, rarely came
Tomorrow holds such better days
Days when I can still feel alive
When I can't wait to get outside

The world is wide, the time goes by
The tour is over, I've survived
I can't wait 'til I get home
To pass the time in my room alone

User talk:It's dot com

2006-02-05T15:10:46Z

Ciberdude444: unbanned

User talk:SomekidnamedIke

2006-02-05T15:08:21Z

Ciberdude444: /* cool */

== Welcome! ==
Welcome to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' We're glad to have you as a member. If you need any help, feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]]. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].

Here are some tips to get you started:
* If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.
* Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].
* Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[hRWiki:User space|user page]].
* If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
* If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum].
* Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' and have fun!

Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user page belongs to you. I hope this information is helpful, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.

Sincerely,<br />
{{User:Has Matt?/sig}}, and "The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee" 19:24, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey! ==
I didn't know you went on here! Cool! Maybe we can play some d&d after school on monday! see you there! {{User:Seriously/sig}} 00:15, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== How old? ==
How old are you? {{User:The thing/sig}} 20:23, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
16, and my name isn't Ike.

== cool ==

so you know [[user:Seriously|the serious dork]] and [[User:Trendy Totebag|Ugly Purse]]? cool. you have a screen name of email or somethin? i dotn think talking on talk pages is safe. CiberDude 15:07, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

User talk:SomekidnamedIke

2006-02-05T15:08:04Z

Ciberdude444: /* cool */

== Welcome! ==
Welcome to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' We're glad to have you as a member. If you need any help, feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]]. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].

Here are some tips to get you started:
* If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.
* Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].
* Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[hRWiki:User space|user page]].
* If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
* If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum].
* Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' and have fun!

Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user page belongs to you. I hope this information is helpful, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.

Sincerely,<br />
{{User:Has Matt?/sig}}, and "The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee" 19:24, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey! ==
I didn't know you went on here! Cool! Maybe we can play some d&d after school on monday! see you there! {{User:Seriously/sig}} 00:15, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== How old? ==
How old are you? {{User:The thing/sig}} 20:23, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
16, and my name isn't Ike.

== cool ==

so you know [[user:Seriously|the serious dork]] and [[User:Treandy Totebag|Ugly Purse]]? cool. you have a screen name of email or somethin? i dotn think talking on talk pages is safe. CiberDude 15:07, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

User talk:SomekidnamedIke

2006-02-05T15:07:42Z

Ciberdude444: cool

== Welcome! ==
Welcome to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' We're glad to have you as a member. If you need any help, feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]]. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].

Here are some tips to get you started:
* If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.
* Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].
* Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[hRWiki:User space|user page]].
* If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
* If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum].
* Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' and have fun!

Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user page belongs to you. I hope this information is helpful, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.

Sincerely,<br />
{{User:Has Matt?/sig}}, and "The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee" 19:24, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hey! ==
I didn't know you went on here! Cool! Maybe we can play some d&d after school on monday! see you there! {{User:Seriously/sig}} 00:15, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== How old? ==
How old are you? {{User:The thing/sig}} 20:23, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
16, and my name isn't Ike.

== cool ==

so you know [[user:Seriously|the serious dork]] and [[User Treandy Totebag|Ugly Purse]]? cool. you have a screen name of email or somethin? i dotn think talking on talk pages is safe. CiberDude 15:07, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Will

2006-02-05T14:18:20Z

Ciberdude444: edit

== Welcome! ==
Welcome to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' I wanted to extend a personal welcome, since I believe strongly that a [[Wikipedia:Wiki|Wiki]] should be a democratic and non-threatening place where everyone feels like they can contribute. Unfortunately it can be very frustrating at first if you make changes that are ignored or changed back by other users, but if so I encourage you to hang in there; as you get a feel for the way things are done around here you'll feel more at home. That was my experience, anyway!

If you need any help, feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]] (like [[User_talk:AbdiViklas|me]]!). You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].

Here are some tips to get you started:
* If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.
* Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].
* Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[hRWiki:User space|user page]]. What you're reading right now, by the way, is the "Talk:" page that goes with your user page. It's a good way to communicate directly with specific users. The best way to respond, though, is on the same user page where the conversation was started. E.g. if you have a question, go to my [[User_talk:AbdiViklas|user talk page]] and edit it, then watch my page (via [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]]) for a response.
* If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
* If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum] and get More Community Interaction Than You Or Your Grandmother Can Handle!
* Above all, '''be bold''' and have fun!

Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. (In general, it's frowned on to delete other people's input on talk pages, but this entry is just here to be helpful. When it's done being helpful, I guarantee you won't hurt my feelings by ditching it!)

Sincerely,<br>
[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] and [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|the rest of the welcoming committee]] (00:53, 8 November 2005 (UTC))

== page ==

make a user page! it's fun--{{User:Benol/sig}} 21:49, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

==recent changes==
:Hi there seriously. Thanks for joinin the recent changes patrol. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you that I made a link to your user page (which does not exist... yet), and a datestamp, so that people can identify you a bit better. A suggestion: If you type four of these: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> it automaticly creates a link to your user page and a datestamp. Try it out! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:11, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Um, how do you join the recent changes patrol? I went to the page but got nothing.--[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 00:43, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
:Easy. Just put your name at the bottom of the list. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:19, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== Sig Help ==

Hey Seriously, just thought I'd drop you a quick line to give you some help on signing. :) To sign your name in a STUFF vote, a Talk page or a Guestbook, type three tildes as follows: <nowiki>~~~</nowiki> - this signs your name and creates a link to your User page.

You can also type four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) to sign your name and leave the current date - this is appropriate for Talk pages and Guestbooks, but not for STUFF.

Just thought I'd help. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:51, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

i rock.

==hi again==
:Hi again Seriously. Just to tell you, that template you were trying to put on [[Jerome]] is <nowiki>{{tobedeleted}}</nowiki>. However, unless you have a good reason to delete it, I think it's ok the way it is. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:26, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
::Hey Seriously, [[Your Hair is Messed Up]] is an actual feature; it's just from the Everything Else DVD, which a lot of people don't have yet. That's probably why it hasn't been transcribed yet. We can't delete a legit feature like that, so I'm going to remove the template. Keep on tranglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:50, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

woah, sorry. i didn't know that. i will edit right now. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 23:58, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

:Don't worry; no harm done. I've already fixed it. In the future, you may want to read the talk page of an article if you think an article needs deleting; people may already have discussed this. That was the case for the article in question in this case. Oh, and you should sign your comments. You can do that by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after your comments. Talk atcha later! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:55, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

thanks a lot. you are very nice for helping me learn how to do editing properly. i guess i should put my trigger-happy edit sign away for a while. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 23:58, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
:I was like that too when I was new... just ask [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:44, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

== I am bored ==
will someone put more on my talk page? how can i have fun on such an awesome website if i don't get messages n' stuff? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 01:34, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

:If you're bored you can always work on your userpage. You can also look around on other User's pages, and find Guestbooks, Quizzes, easter eggs, and other fun things. You can browse the [[Secret Pages]], you never know what you'll find there. Then there's opening a [[Special:Random|random]] wiki page, and fixing it up. You can patroll the [[Special:Recent Changes|recent changes]], and revert vandals, welcome new users, and help people who post questions on talk pages. Then there's the [[HRWiki:IRC channel|chat channel]], the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum], other user's talk pages, and of course, the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/ official site]. There's all sorts of things to do, if you use your [[dreamail|imagination]]! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:52, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

::well, i did, actually. you can read my userpage if you want. however, one question about vandals: if what they say is bad, then how do you fix it? and i have posted messages on a lot of STUFF and talk pages and noone has answered them. wah!

anyway, thanks. i like it when awesome people who know about this website (unlike me) set the standards for influencing new users. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 01:58, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

:I don't quite understand your question about vandals. You mean what do you do if somebody changes a page for the worst? Well you can always edit it yourself after, to fix what they did. If it's just badly worded or something, just editing it is fine. If they add something obviously wrong, but innocent, then you can [[HRWiki:WikiTroll#How to revert a page|revert it]], and if it's obviously blatantly vandalism, add it to [[HRWiki:WikiTroll#Offenders|the list of offenders]] or let a sysop know. They'll block them. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:04, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

sweet, thanks. i just tried it out. whoever the heck johnny is, your deletion of a goof in fall float parade is destroyed!!!!!

yeah, i get excited when i find this stuff on the wiki. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 02:07, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

:Well just make sure your edit is productive. If you looked in the comment of Jonny's edit, he had created that sentance, and then deleted it a minute later because it was already meantioned in remarks. Your re-adding has already been reverted by another user. Most edits are productive, so always check the comment before just assuming it's vandalism or counterproductive. Glad to see you taking an interest in recent changes though. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:22, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

things go a mile a minute around here! i just don't get it! it's like when mulder from the x-files is fighting to retrieve evidence from a broken train car in a navajo reservation, but fails spectacularly!

if you know what episode that's from, you get a gold star. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 02:27, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

well, i'm
signing off now. seeya later, thunderbird! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 02:29, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

:Sorry, I've never seen the X-Files before. Seya later. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:49, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

== Others' talk pages ==

Seriously, Ciberdude may have done some trollish things, but him blanking his own talk page is OK, now that the warnings are outdated. Please leave it alone. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:29, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

ok. sorry. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 15:31, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

i shall revert it.[[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 15:31, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== reverting my edits ==
that is not trolling, ciberdude. if you are unfamiliar with the concept of trolling, then you should look back at the things you've done. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 15:43, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

im really interested to know how that isnt trolling

im really interested to know why you keep ruining my talk page, ciberdude. and by the way, get some grammar lessons. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 15:48, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

:grammar is for nerds.

::Grammar is for people who wish to communicate in a clear, intelligent manner. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:53, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

i am logging off for now. if i see five messages from you when i get back, you are going down. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 15:49, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

:Seriously, I didn't warn you about editing other people's user talk pages just for kicks. It can indeed be considered trolling. Other actions that can be considered trolling include telling someone to get grammar lessons and telling them that they are "going down." Consider this a second warning - further actions of the same nature will result in a temporary ban. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:52, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

:: i belive mesing with the troll page is trolling too, i've been baned for that you know.

ok, i'm leaving now, i do have a life to get to.
see ya soon [[User:Ciberdude444|me]]

sorry. i have a lot to learn. i've been worse than ciberdude444 has. sorry. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 18:07, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, learning's what a wiki's about! (You didn't think by "knowledge base" it meant only what's coded in the pages, did you?) Thanks for doing it gracefully. And you know, if you're really interested in improving the wiki, an apology to Ciberdude would probably be a nice move; he seemed pretty ticked. (Yes, disproportionately and problematically so, but it's good to make the first move.) Again, the wiki isn't just binary code on a server; it's interpersonal relationships too, and patching them up is a direct way of contributing to the upkeep of the wiki. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:21, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the meaningless stereotypical psychological nonsense, abdi (for once, that's not sarcastic.) i have already signed his guestbook, so i think everythings in order. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 18:24, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Hm. I'm sad to see that you think signing a guestbook makes everything okay; given the two edits that followed that, everything is ''not'' okay between the two of you. And what I said above ''does'' have a meaning, actually; let me see if I can say it with fewer big words: users getting along is not just a nice thing; it actually matters to the wiki. The wiki's a community, and when you damage the community you damage the wiki—in other words, true trolling (worse, really, than vandalism). On the other hand, when you make the community better you improve the wiki (i.e. gnoming of the best kind). Bottom line: It would be great if you and Ciberdude get around to just co-existing peacefully while nursing grudges and just don't speak to each other. It would be a '''lot''' better, though, if one of you swallowed your pride, forgave the other's pettiness (by now this applies to both of you), and made the first move for peace (instead of keeping on insulting each other in little ways). And yes, I mean apologizing even though by now both of you could apologize to the other for exactly the same thing.
:Of course all this is a suggestion; I can't force you to do anything. (Unless the resentment that you guys are keeping on low flares up and somebody gets banned.) But I mean it when I say the relationships between users are part of the wiki, and if you leave one damaged you're missing an opportunity to improve the wiki. If that sounds meaningless, try reading it a few more times until you find a meaning. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:52, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

you said more on mine! meanie! kidding. read the thing i said on ciber's talk page. i did it before you even wote this, but thanks anyway. i was acting foolish, arrogant, and a ton of other words that really all mean the same thing: BAD. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 19:12, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Coo'. Now don't beat yourself up about it; lol! That was quite an awesome 180°; you seem like you'll make a great welcomer. By the way, I fixed some stuff on your guestbook; the problem actually wasn't with the number of 4s, but with which side of the "|" the username was on. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

seriously? that's hilarious! sometimes we get so beat up about problems we don't even understand, it's like the most ironic thing in the world. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 19:29, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks for listening, Seriously! {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:35, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

when i saw what you wrote on ciber;s talk page, i thought it had to come to an end. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 19:36, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== pretty awesome quotes ==

Hey there, Seriously. Just dropping by to tell you something. I see you added a quote to the "Pretty Awesome Quotes" section on [[User:Has Matt?|my userpage]]. While that is one of the funniest quotes I've ever heard, and I'm going to keep it there for that reason, the way it works is I have to ''find'' the quote and then ''I'' put it on there. Just letting you know so you won't do it again. Feel free to add quotes to the "Things I Wish Homsar Would Say" section though! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:54, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

sorry. didn't know. but man, some of those quotes are hilarious. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 18:06, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== guestbook ==
ciberdude: i notice from your talk page that you are deleting my comment on your guestbook. you have my permission. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 22:30, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== Caution ==

This has gone on long enough. Do not edit the user page or the user talk page of Ciberdude444 ever again. Pretend that he does not exist. Do not reply to his comments on other talk pages. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:16, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

what do you mean? sure, i was bad to him a while ago, but i haven't done anything since. abdiviklas helped me patch things up. you can ask him , i swear! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:49, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think he was telling you this because of the discussion that is/was going on [[User talk:Ciberdude444|here]]. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:51, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

guys, i am sorry. i welcomed him to the wiki. i followed abdiviklas's advice. i even gave him permission to delete my signing on the guestbook. i want to start a clean slate! he just deleted the message that i put on his talk page saying that i apologized. i want to get out of this whole thing, but not if i'm left with a reputation of being as bad as him! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:57, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

bubsty, Dot com, i consider you guys some of the best people we have here. not because i want to suck up, but because you care enough to realize the importance of this matter. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:57, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

:In regard to why I posted here on your page: I am merely being up-front. I have warned him never to edit your user space again. You should likewise never edit his again, ''for any reason at all''. If you have a problem, you can bring it to me or another of the sysops, but if you follow these instructions, there should be no problems. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:01, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

but one question: how do i contact the sysops? what if you guys don't reach your talk pages soon enough? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 01:02, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Then you can probably do two things:
::1. Wait, and hope that one comes on soon.
::2. If it's a situation that doesn't need sysop powers, (Blocking, deleting, etc.), you can ask a frequent user who knows how things work around here. (Like me!).
:Usually, if you leave a message on someones talk page, they'll get to it soon. Depends on how frequent they are. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:07, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::'''EDIT CONFLICT:''' For example, if you were to contact me, I'd respond pretty quickly, for example. Probably in 5 minutes or less. I'm pretty much always here, and I know a thing or two... I'm no sysop, but I get along pretty well... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
thanks. so..........how do i block people? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 01:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:You need to be a sysop to block people. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

thanks. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 01:13, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

:So, that should help you understand a little how things work. Also realize that we have lots of people watching out for vandalism, and that it usually gets reverted ''very'' quickly as result. Also, the sysops are very good about watching for it and knowing when they need to block people to stop them. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:19, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

==sysop nominations ==
because of the comments on the main page talk page, i have realized there is no chance of anyone being a sysop soon. however, in case there ever is, what qualities do you need to be one? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 14:27, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

:Here's my [[User talk:Homestar Coder/MayAug2005#I have a big query.|standard answer]], courtesy of [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:41, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== I must say, This is Quite expansive. ==

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Hope u like the expansion, Willis. --[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 21:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

== I must say, This is Quite expansive. ==

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Hope u like the expansion, Willis. --[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 21:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

you are quite lucky i don't ask someone to ban you, aidan.
[[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 23:45, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
I thought u would like it Willis! Sorry, revert it if u want.--[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 20:22, 6 January 2006 (U
I see that you did not revert it. Stow it willis.

==ADVERTISING!!!!! ==
if anyone wonders why i talk mean to trendy totebag and talk about blocking him, it's cause he is from my school. i persued him to go on this website. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:46, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
:Persuaded Willis, persuaded.--[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 18:04, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
::(Though I wouldn't put it past him to "pursue," either. :) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:44, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
isn't that great? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:46, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

== is my reputation killed? ==
because of my previous trolling and skirmish with ciberdude, i don't think i am very respected by fellow wikiers. apart from trendy totebag, does anyone think my reputation will ever be repaired? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 04:44, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
:Reputations can ALWAYS be repaired. I mean, [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] was a troll, wasn't he? Look what happened to him: now he's a sysop. There's always hope. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

yes, but he just deleted some stuff on peasant's quest. i made personal attacks to a user. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 04:53, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
:There's an old adage I'm reminded of: forgive and forget. What happened in the past is in the past. Focus on the future, and you're sure to become a fairly respected user. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

true. double true. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 04:59, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Word of wisdom from Me Part 1: The Awakening
Will, however much you hate certain users will not affect your reputation if you turn your life around and follow the light. But not too far. Just don't use the profane and obscene language that is so much a part of you, it seems to emanate from your mouth, and you will be fine. I'm so nominating you for sysop/admin.--[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 18:49, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
:I used to be a troll, and a really stupid person. But now I've been forgiven by ''most'' people. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:23, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

true. double true. here's lyrics from my fave snl skit of all time. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:52, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

lazy sunday, wake up in the late afternoon. i call up parnell to see just how he's doin.
hello? parn, just how are you doin? are you thinkin what i'm thinking? NARNIA! man, it's happenin! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:52, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

:But first my hunger pangs are stickin' like duct tape. Let's hit on Magnolia and back on some cupcakes! (I have it on my iPod :->) {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:47, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
::No doubt, that bakery's got all the bomb frosting.
i love those cupcakes like mcadams loves gosling
2 no 6 no 12, bakers dozen!
i told you that i'm crazy for these cupcakes, cousin!
yo wheres the movie playing? upper west side dude!
let's hit up yahoo maps to find the dopest route.
i prefer mapquest! that's a good one too.
googlemaps is the best! true that! double true!
68th and broadway step on it sucker!
what you want to do chris? snack attack, mother*beep*!
lol i got that as a ring tone on my phone — {{user:Yourmomgoestocollege/sig}} 03:05, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

== Wiki Standards ==

Hi there Seriously. I advise that you review the [[HRWiki:Standards]] and the [[MetaWikipedia:Help:Contents|MediaWiki User's Guide]] before you create any more articles. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:24, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

yeah, thanks for the redirect. i won't create any more pages. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 21:24, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

==You want to be a Cool Person?==
Here's the deal. You really need to '''stand out''' in order to make it to my list. But in a positive way. I've noticed that you have been a troller in the past and that's not a good way to go (see BANNED FOR LIFE list). Trendy T. is a good kid and I'm glad he recognized me as one of those who helped him. Most of the people on my list are people who helped me or appreciate me. However, one thing bugs me. In the words of Strong Bad, "What ever happened to capitalization? It used to be so cool." -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 21:47, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

yeah, i'm not trying to do what the thing did. i don't want that. i'm just kidding around, you know? oh, and thanks for fixing that link. i am so stupid. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 21:52, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

==Space. The Final Indent.==
By the way, I noticed your edit [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Timeline&diff=233990&oldid=233909 here]. Notice how it's got a gray box around it, and extends off the right edge of the page instead of having a line break? Both of those happen because your line started with a blank space (or more than one). It can be kind of annoying in longer comments because they just go "to the right and straight on til morning." If the spaces were because you were trying to indent your comment as you see folks doing in replies, use ":"s instead. Check it out:
:Here's one!
::Here's two!
:::Here's three! You get the drill! <small>(click edit and take a look at the code to check 'em out.)</small> —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 09:17, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

::::yeah, i do this all the time. i guess i jsut forgot. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 14:06, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::oh, now i get it. i won't do it again. i try to make my comments stand out, y'know? that's why i usually do it. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 14:08, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

== !You Won The First Official Platypus Award!==
:It is my pleasure to inform you, User:Seriously, that you have won Trendy Totebag's first official Platypus Award! Trendy Totebag owes the fact that he is on hrwiki to you. Scincerely,
--[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]]'s oficcial messenger boy/kid.[[Image:platypusaward.jpg]]--[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 23:06, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

== scincerely?! is that the best spelling you can do? ==
thanks a lot for the trophy. um, have you heard about [[User: Bubsty]]? it's a bit sad, isn't it? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 01:51, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

== Warning ==

What part of "Do not edit the user page or the user talk page of Ciberdude444 ever again" did you not understand? Then I see you post this message: "this offending garbage before i alert a sysop." ''Before'' you alert a sysop? That is directly against what you were instructed to do. On top of that, I find that Trendy Totebag made [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3ACiberdude444&diff=230962&oldid=229427 this edit], which also is trolling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:01, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

:look, sorry. i just felt alarmed. i wanted it to be over, and he does not realize that. trendy totebag had heard about my fight with ciberdude444, but he misunderstood, thinking that it had not been resolved. i did not pursuade him to do that edit. i promise. block me if you want. i deserve it more than trendy or ciber. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 02:05, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

::I will not be blocking you this time, but if my instructions are ignored again, I won't hesitate to do so. I have also warned Trendy Totebag and Ciberdude444, so there is no need for you to do so. I repeat: Leave each other alone. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Hey! By the way, I left a [[User talk:It's dot com#help.21|comment]] on It's dot com's talk page. Although it was technically replying to M. Totebag, it would probably be relevant for you too. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:46, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::See also my comments on my talk page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Me??? Cool??? ==

Why do you think I am cool???--{{User:Benol/sig}} 15:31, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

because you at least kinda welcomed me when i first came here by saying "make a user page, it's fun!" also i read your juser page and you seemed pretty cool. you don't always have to be cool to me in order to be on my cool people list. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 15:33, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== sig ==
can anyone create me a sig? i never undertand the directions. if you need my password i could give it to you, just make it cool. note: these are the people i'd like most to help me: thunderbird, abdiviklas, its dot com, gnome o' fury, and teh frossty one. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:06, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'm flattered that you'd ask me to help. First of all, though, I really, really would ''never'' give my password to anybody! (Besides which, no one would actually need it to make your sig. You'd have to go into "preferences" yourself, but that isn't too hard.) Secondly, I'm afraid I don't really have time. Somebody else might very well (maybe you could arange some kind of trade; you see stuff like that often, with users with drawing skills making pics for others in exchange for fanfics and so on), or better yet, take a shot at doing it yourself; I'll bet you'll find it easier than it looks. One other thing: some brand-new guidelines about what a sig should be have been posted at [[HRWiki:Signature]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:13, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::the problem is, i still have no idea whatsoever. believe me, i have tried, and failed spectacularly. i really don't know what the crap i am doing. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:17, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::How does this look for a sig base?
:::<blockquote>[[User:Seriously|<font color="orange">Seriously</font>]] ([[User talk:Seriously|<font color="orange">talk</font>]] <font color="orange">•</font> [[Special:Contributions/Seriously|<font color="orange">contribs</font>]])</blockquote>
:::That OK? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}
::::great, but could you make it a different color? it's fine as is, but if it was orange, that would be great. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:32, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::also, when i did 4 tildes on my userpage, it just came out bolded. is that for a reason? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:35, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

::If you link to the same page you are currently on, the link will become bold. See: [[User talk:Seriously]]. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 20:37, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

:::SWEET!!! so, how do i get it in action? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:48, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Start by clicking "edit" on this section; find the code Venusy left and copy it. Go to [[User:Seriously/sig]], delete what's there already, and paste it. Finally, go to your [[Special:Preferences|Preferences]], put "<nowiki>{{User:Username/sig}}</nowiki>" in the "Your nickname (for signatures)" box, and check the checkbox for "Raw signatures." Then just use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> as usual, except now it will leave a trail of day-glo customization! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:58, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

thanks for my cool new sig, guys! {{User:Seriously/sig}} 22:11, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

:I think I should probably explain the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Seriously/sig&diff=255413&oldid=255399 edit] I made to your sig - firsly, <code><font color="blah"></code> is deprecated in favour of <code><span style="color:blah"></code>. Next, one of the tags was <code><font font color="purple"></code> - the extra <code>font</code> was in the way. The <code><font></code> tag arround the bullet wasn't closed, and there was no space after the bullet (which made it look lopsided). Finally, I combined the color and the font face into one tag for the "other stuff" link (you can do that, and it simplifies matters). Just ask me if you have any questions... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:22, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

== WikiTroll ==

Seriously, you're not really leaving Ciberdude alone as per Dot com's instructions if you address him in your edit summaries. Let other people deal with his WikiTroll edits. I assure you, we will. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:54, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:You were instructed ''not'' to reply to him, and to let the sysops handle it. You were given plenty of warnings, but instead you got into an edit war where you [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:WikiTroll&diff=240405&oldid=240402 directly addressed Ciberdude444], which is ''exactly'' what you were instructed not to do. See you in a week. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:33, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
::i hate to rub it in, but isn't it kind of ironic that this was all done on wikitroll? [[User:69.162.201.219|69.162.201.219]] 00:33, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::It's like raieeaaain on your wedding day. But rubbing it in isn't particularly helpful or necessary. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:50, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

==Dot com==

Well I never said anything personal against him or anything like that. He has been a little less than pleasant toward me, just cos I happen to strongly disagree with him, so I'm not exactly going to be all cheery with him. Oh well. [[User:Yeltensic|Yeltensic]] [[User talk:Yeltensic|Save the guestbooks]] 03:25, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Even so, you should respect him. If he has just counterpointed your opinion and said his argument like he did, that gives you no reason to be like that. He also might just be mad at you because of your ridiculously profane comments that are barely censored. He can block you, and I might not be the one to say this, but I suggest you realize the trouble you could be in if you gave him another reason to be mad at you. So instead of talking to me about this, why don't you head on over to ''his'' talk page? {{User:Seriously/sig}} 20:26, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks, but that's really not necessary. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

::Yeah, maybe i was a bit harsh about this whole subject. Maybe i should go get some suudsu and lie down. Naw, I'm too much of a wikiholic. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 20:31, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I came to this talkpage cos my original post here was in response to your comments about all of this. [[User:Yeltensic|Yeltensic]] [[User talk:Yeltensic|Save the guestbooks]] 20:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Yay!!!!!! ==
I have special news!!!! One hundred pages now have my sig on them!!!! {{User:Seriously/sig}} 21:02, 26 January 2006 (UTC)Not anymore....--[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 02:22, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
:Congratulations! [[User:Yeltensic|Yeltensic]] [[User talk:Yeltensic|Save the guestbooks]] 21:05, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Dang man, how did you trick out your pagethingy like that.--[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 16:37, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
You mean my sig? I didn't! [[User: Venusy|Venusy]] helped me out! {{User:Seriously/sig}} 22:38, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

== Stop talking to troublemakers ==

Stop talking to troublemakers. It just puts more gas on the fire. Don't call them stupid. Don't tell them we're going to get them. If I remember correctly, it was your insistence in telling Ciberdude that he was a troll that started that whole feud. Let the sysops handle the troublemakers. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:53, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

:Yes. I understand. I am just fed up at the overflowing amount of yeltensics. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 00:55, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

::Yes, Seriously, it ''is'' frustrating. But it doesn't do any good to threaten or insult vandals and trolls (this applies to ''any'' troll or vandal, not just Yeltensic). Sometimes, that's just what they're looking for, and at any rate, it won't stop them. Since we aren't sysops, the best thing we can do is revert and, if necessary (i.e., if the sysops don't already know), report on WikiTroll. Note that since Yeltensic isn't actually committing vandalism on the pages, we really should just leave this one up to the sysops. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:56, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

:::You are right. This isn't the way. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 01:58, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

==Thanks for Welcoming Me==

Thank you for welcoming me! What's a bit ironic, though, is that the person you warmly welcomed just now is the same person you listed as a WikiTroll and have insulted now and then. CMB stands for [[User:Yeltensic|Christopher Michael Bensko]]. But thanks anyway. [[User:CMB|CMB]] 00:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

I knew it. Dot com, see what this guy just wrote. This is ridiculous. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 00:58, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

I find it rather interesting that I've always been pretty nice to you, Seriously, but you seem quite fond of insulting me. [[User:ThisDude|ThisDude]] 01:11, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

In the end, yelt, I'm just disappointed. You seemed like a pretty good user at first. Then, you became obsessed with the guestbooks and started putting offensive messages that were barely censored. Then, you went even further and made a page called save the guestbooks. Again. Again. And again. Finally you got blocked. I thought that would be the end, but no. Even when you go blocked, you just wouldn't give up. You've created more than 5 usernames, you know. That's bad. real bad. You are just ruining your reputation further. Soon, you will never have a chance to even ''salvage'' the broken pieces of your reputation, because you will be blocked indefinitely. Just give up, do your time, and come back on the wiki with a clean slate when you are unblocked. It's not too late. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 01:18, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Will, you buttkisser. And I mean that in a nice way. Once again, your opinions on and off the wiki have changed dramaticly. Or did they?--[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 02:24, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

== Sig II: ''Son of "Sig"'' ==
CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE SHOW ME HOW TO MAKE A DIFFERENT FONT ON MY SIG!!!!!{{User:Seriously/sig}} 01:32, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
:<span style="font-family:impact;">[[user talk:Yourmomgoestocollege|like this]]</span> (look at the text code for this post) — {{user:Yourmomgoestocollege/sig}} 02:12, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== Bands of today ==

I must agree with you that the bands of today, aren't so great. (no offense to anyone out there). It seems like it's meant to make you depressed. I don't want that. I DO like comedy music, though (it exists). {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:54, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

True dat, Bluebry. You get cupcakes. The question is: do you like the bands I like, or do you just hate the bands I hate too? {{User:Seriously/sig}} 01:25, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:No, I just don't like the bands of today. They do seem like they want to get you depressed. They get '''me''' depressed, at least. {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:07, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Strong Bad Typemails ==

I agree with what you're saying. Can you offer any suggestions as to where I could post such a discussion?

--[[User:President Cold One|President Cold One]] 01:52, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Ah, thank you for posting this. I suggest the talk page on Strong Bad Email. That's the most relevant place to the actual emails, since you haven't just done one strong bad email with the typing, you've done about twenty. Well, good luck. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 12:16, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== Flood ==

Seriously, please take a look away from your signature and notice that you are flooding [[Special:Recentchanges]]. To the right of the "Save page" button, there is a "Show preview" button. This shows what the page or section will look like when you save it, without actually saving it. Please use "Show preview" from now on. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 12:30, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. I still dont' know how to make a freakin' font.....{{User:Seriously/sig}}

:<span style="font-family:family;">[[user talk:Yourmomgoestocollege|like this]]</span> (look at the text code for this post) the part where it says impact can be replaced with any font u desire — {{user:Yourmomgoestocollege/sig}} 12:39, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

== Psst... psssssst..... ==

<small>''{whispering}'' Hello there Seriously. See that little button next to "Save page"? It's called "Show preview". I think you might want to click on it and see what it does. Talk atcha later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:32, 3 February 2006 (UTC)</small>

:Sorry, dot com, looks like Lapper beat you to the punch. {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 12:33, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

::Indeed. But Seriously, you should start using the second button more than the first so that, for the most part, only your final edit of that part of the page shows up. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 12:34, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

:::Looks like we both hit the [ + ] button at the top, and so even if we posted at the same time, we wouldn't get a conflict. In any case, the message we were each trying to convey bears repeating. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:37, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Wow, I make more mistakes than a cow on iceskates...Wait-{{User:Seriously/sig}}

==Parody Cool People==
I love your parody list of cool people. Can you make my name Roy 27 instead of Roy 99? Just a suggestion. -{{User:Marth 99/sig}} 17:16, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

:Thank you so much, I worked hard on it. And yes, i will. {{User:Seriously/sig}}
::Actually, you know, interestingly enough, there was actually a troll by the name of BlueJay who targeted Jay a while back. Check the WikiTroll archive for more details. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::Yeah, that's where I got it. I don't mean anything offensive by that, though. Maybe I should change it. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 19:34, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
::::Maybe. How about Kay? =3 --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Maybe.....Although that's a little less obvious.....How about Robin? Tht is, if jay has any connection to birds othr than it sounds like bluejay....{{User:Seriously/sig}} 19:39, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for the message. Just a little naseau. (is that spelled right?) {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 01:45, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

What did I say to you again? I forgot. and what does that french word mean? {{User:Seriously/sig}} 02:41, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

==Signature==

Hi Seriously, I see you're working on your signature. I'm sure you're aware of our [[HRWiki:Signature|signature standards]]. It's not a big deal if it's a tiny little bit over the size limit, but your signature is currently over ''twice'' the allowable size. Please make sure that when you're finished, it's within the size limit. I've included your sig and the sig box below, as a handy reference while you work on it. I would suggest rewording, or <nowiki><small> or <sub></nowiki> tags, or both. Thanks. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:32, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[[Image:sigbox.png]]<br>
{{User:Seriously/sig}}

Woah. I'll fix it. Sorry. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 04:51, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Is it good now? {{User:Seriously/sig}} 04:52, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Well sure, just see for yourself. Feel free to monkey around with it, just remember: Think outside the box, create inside it. (Man, that's a bad pun) ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:55, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Ah, i didn't mind the pun. {{User:Seriously/sig}} 04:55, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

:Please choose something you can live with for a while and then keep it that way. What makes a signature special in real life is that it is recognizable because it, in general, stays the same over time. Here on the wiki, a signature should not be changed very often, simply because it's kind of like a logo that people use to identify you. (If a company changed its logo every day, people would have a hard time figuring out what they're buying.) Talk atcha later. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:02, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

== edit ==

i edited happy now? [ciberdude444]

User:Ciberdude444

2006-02-05T14:13:48Z

Ciberdude444: /* one more */

===hello everyone... I'm back!!!... again... AGAIN!!!===
====muahahahahahahahahahahahaha====
i just keep getting banned dont i?
me!!!!!!!!!!
#i live in A-town
#i am 73
#my name is Ciberos Fitsgerald Dude
#if you want my email or such ask me for it on my talk page
#in conclustion: go away

==quotes==
Second place is like being the tallest midget... no one cares.

Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes; that way, when you criticize them you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes!

it is now beyond all doubt that cigarettes are the largest cause of statistics

42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

...Because, if Santa and the holiday armadillo are in the same room for too long, the world will implode... Merry Christmas!!!!
'''-Friends'''

I see you're drinking 1%, is that because you think you're fat? cause your not, you could be drinking whole if you wanted too.
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

yeah, there's a ton of gangs at this school, this one kept on wanting me to join cause I'm pretty good with a bo staf
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

Are You suggesting coconuts migrate?
'''-Monty Python and the Holy Grail'''

so then i said to the guy 'if this is the house of pancakes how come i can't eat the walls?'
'''-Homer Simpson'''

if at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence you tried

==(Yeah)==

Say, Hey!

Hear the sound of the falling rain

Coming down like an Armageddon flame

The shame

The ones who died without a name

Hear the dogs howling out of key

To a hymn called "Faith and Misery"

And bleed

The company that lost the war today

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

Hear the drum pounding out of time

Another protester has crossed the line

To find

The money's on the other side

Can I get another Amen? (Amen!)

There's a flag wrapped around a score of men

A gag

A plastic bag on a monument

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

"The representative from California has the floor"

Zieg heil to the president gasman,

Bombs away is your punishment.

Pulverize the Eiffel towers,

Who criticize your government.

Bang, Bang goes the broken glass and

Kill all the fags that don't agree.

Trials by fire, setting fires

Is not a way that's meant for me.

Just cause, just cause, because we're outlaws, yeah!

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives

This is our lives,

On holiday!

==another==
Everybody’s got their problems (problems)
Everybody says the same things to you
It’s just a matter how you solve them (solve them)
And knowing how to change the things you’ve been through

I fear I’ve come to realize
How fast life can be compromised
Stand back to see what’s going on
I can’t believe this happened to you, this happened to you

It’s just a problem that we’re faced with
Am I not the only one that hates to standby
Complication’s headed first in this line
With all these pictures running through my mind

Knowing endless consequences
I feel so useless in this
Get back, step back, and as for me, I can’t believe

Part of me, won’t agree
Cause I don’t know if it’s for sure
Suddenly, suddenly
I don’t feel so insecure [x2]
Anymore

Everybody’s got their problems (problems)
Everybody says the same things to you
It’s just a matter how you solve them (solve them)
What else are we supposed to do

Part of me, won’t agree
Cause I don’t know if it’s for sure
Suddenly, suddenly
I don’t feel so insecure(x2)
Anymore

(why do things that matter the most
Never end up never being what we chose
Now that I find out, it ain’t so bad
I don’t think I knew what I had) [x2]

==one more==
I never thought I'd die alone
I laughed the loudest, who'd have known?
I traced the cord back to the wall
No wonder it was never plugged in at all

I took my time, I hurried up
The choice was mine, I didn't think enough
I'm too depressed to go on
You'll be sorry when I'm gone

I never conquered, rarely came
16 just held such better days
Days when I still felt alive
We couldn't wait to get outside

The world was wide, too late to try
The tour was over, we'd survived
I couldn't wait 'til I got home
To pass the time in my room alone

I never thought I'd die alone
Another six months, I'll be unknown
Give all my things to all my friends
You'll never step foot in my room again

You'll close it off, board it up
Remember the time that I spilled the cup
Of apple juice in the hall
Please tell mom this is not her fault

I never conquered, rarely came
16 just held such better days
Days when I still felt alive
We couldn't wait to get outside

The world was wide, too late to try
The tour was over, we'd survived
I couldn't wait 'til I got home
To pass the time in my room alone

I never conquered, rarely came
Tomorrow holds such better days
Days when I can still feel alive
When I can't wait to get outside

The world is wide, the time goes by
The tour is over, I've survived
I can't wait 'til I get home
To pass the time in my room alone

User:Ciberdude444

2006-02-05T14:13:28Z

Ciberdude444: /* another */

===hello everyone... I'm back!!!... again... AGAIN!!!===
====muahahahahahahahahahahahaha====
i just keep getting banned dont i?
me!!!!!!!!!!
#i live in A-town
#i am 73
#my name is Ciberos Fitsgerald Dude
#if you want my email or such ask me for it on my talk page
#in conclustion: go away

==quotes==
Second place is like being the tallest midget... no one cares.

Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes; that way, when you criticize them you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes!

it is now beyond all doubt that cigarettes are the largest cause of statistics

42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

...Because, if Santa and the holiday armadillo are in the same room for too long, the world will implode... Merry Christmas!!!!
'''-Friends'''

I see you're drinking 1%, is that because you think you're fat? cause your not, you could be drinking whole if you wanted too.
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

yeah, there's a ton of gangs at this school, this one kept on wanting me to join cause I'm pretty good with a bo staf
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

Are You suggesting coconuts migrate?
'''-Monty Python and the Holy Grail'''

so then i said to the guy 'if this is the house of pancakes how come i can't eat the walls?'
'''-Homer Simpson'''

if at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence you tried

==(Yeah)==

Say, Hey!

Hear the sound of the falling rain

Coming down like an Armageddon flame

The shame

The ones who died without a name

Hear the dogs howling out of key

To a hymn called "Faith and Misery"

And bleed

The company that lost the war today

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

Hear the drum pounding out of time

Another protester has crossed the line

To find

The money's on the other side

Can I get another Amen? (Amen!)

There's a flag wrapped around a score of men

A gag

A plastic bag on a monument

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

"The representative from California has the floor"

Zieg heil to the president gasman,

Bombs away is your punishment.

Pulverize the Eiffel towers,

Who criticize your government.

Bang, Bang goes the broken glass and

Kill all the fags that don't agree.

Trials by fire, setting fires

Is not a way that's meant for me.

Just cause, just cause, because we're outlaws, yeah!

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives

This is our lives,

On holiday!

==another==
Everybody’s got their problems (problems)
Everybody says the same things to you
It’s just a matter how you solve them (solve them)
And knowing how to change the things you’ve been through

I fear I’ve come to realize
How fast life can be compromised
Stand back to see what’s going on
I can’t believe this happened to you, this happened to you

It’s just a problem that we’re faced with
Am I not the only one that hates to standby
Complication’s headed first in this line
With all these pictures running through my mind

Knowing endless consequences
I feel so useless in this
Get back, step back, and as for me, I can’t believe

Part of me, won’t agree
Cause I don’t know if it’s for sure
Suddenly, suddenly
I don’t feel so insecure [x2]
Anymore

Everybody’s got their problems (problems)
Everybody says the same things to you
It’s just a matter how you solve them (solve them)
What else are we supposed to do

Part of me, won’t agree
Cause I don’t know if it’s for sure
Suddenly, suddenly
I don’t feel so insecure(x2)
Anymore

(why do things that matter the most
Never end up never being what we chose
Now that I find out, it ain’t so bad
I don’t think I knew what I had) [x2]

===one more===
I never thought I'd die alone
I laughed the loudest, who'd have known?
I traced the cord back to the wall
No wonder it was never plugged in at all

I took my time, I hurried up
The choice was mine, I didn't think enough
I'm too depressed to go on
You'll be sorry when I'm gone

I never conquered, rarely came
16 just held such better days
Days when I still felt alive
We couldn't wait to get outside

The world was wide, too late to try
The tour was over, we'd survived
I couldn't wait 'til I got home
To pass the time in my room alone

I never thought I'd die alone
Another six months, I'll be unknown
Give all my things to all my friends
You'll never step foot in my room again

You'll close it off, board it up
Remember the time that I spilled the cup
Of apple juice in the hall
Please tell mom this is not her fault

I never conquered, rarely came
16 just held such better days
Days when I still felt alive
We couldn't wait to get outside

The world was wide, too late to try
The tour was over, we'd survived
I couldn't wait 'til I got home
To pass the time in my room alone

I never conquered, rarely came
Tomorrow holds such better days
Days when I can still feel alive
When I can't wait to get outside

The world is wide, the time goes by
The tour is over, I've survived
I can't wait 'til I get home
To pass the time in my room alone

User:Ciberdude444

2006-02-05T14:05:35Z

Ciberdude444: /* hello everyone... I'm back!!!... again */

User:Ciberdude444

2006-01-25T13:16:25Z

Ciberdude444:

===hello everyone... I'm back!!!... again===
====muahahahahahahahahahahahaha====
me!!!!!!!!!!
#i live in A-town
#i am 73
#my name is Ciberos Fitsgerald Dude
#if you want my email or such ask me for it on my talk page
#in conclustion: go away

==quotes==
Second place is like being the tallest midget... no one cares.

Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes; that way, when you criticize them you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes!

it is now beyond all doubt that cigarettes are the largest cause of statistics

42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

...Because, if Santa and the holiday armadillo are in the same room for too long, the world will implode... Merry Christmas!!!!
'''-Friends'''

I see you're drinking 1%, is that because you think you're fat? cause your not, you could be drinking whole if you wanted too.
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

yeah, there's a ton of gangs at this school, this one kept on wanting me to join cause I'm pretty good with a bo staf
'''-Napoleon Dynamite'''

Are You suggesting coconuts migrate?
'''-Monty Python and the Holy Grail'''

so then i said to the guy 'if this is the house of pancakes how come i can't eat the walls?'
'''-Homer Simpson'''

if at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence you tried

==(Yeah)==

Say, Hey!

Hear the sound of the falling rain

Coming down like an Armageddon flame

The shame

The ones who died without a name

Hear the dogs howling out of key

To a hymn called "Faith and Misery"

And bleed

The company that lost the war today

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

Hear the drum pounding out of time

Another protester has crossed the line

To find

The money's on the other side

Can I get another Amen? (Amen!)

There's a flag wrapped around a score of men

A gag

A plastic bag on a monument

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

"The representative from California has the floor"

Zieg heil to the president gasman,

Bombs away is your punishment.

Pulverize the Eiffel towers,

Who criticize your government.

Bang, Bang goes the broken glass and

Kill all the fags that don't agree.

Trials by fire, setting fires

Is not a way that's meant for me.

Just cause, just cause, because we're outlaws, yeah!

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives

This is our lives,

On holiday!

==another==
Everybody’s got their problems (problems)
Everybody says the same things to you
It’s just a matter how you solve them (solve them)
And knowing how to change the things you’ve been through

I fear I’ve come to realize
How fast life can be compromised
Stand back to see what’s going on
I can’t believe this happened to you, this happened to you

It’s just a problem that we’re faced with
Am I not the only one that hates to standby
Complication’s headed first in this line
With all these pictures running through my mind

Knowing endless consequences
I feel so useless in this
Get back, step back, and as for me, I can’t believe

Part of me, won’t agree
Cause I don’t know if it’s for sure
Suddenly, suddenly
I don’t feel so insecure [x2]
Anymore

Everybody’s got their problems (problems)
Everybody says the same things to you
It’s just a matter how you solve them (solve them)
What else are we supposed to do

Part of me, won’t agree
Cause I don’t know if it’s for sure
Suddenly, suddenly
I don’t feel so insecure(x2)
Anymore

(why do things that matter the most
Never end up never being what we chose
Now that I find out, it ain’t so bad
I don’t think I knew what I had) [x2]

User:Ciberdude444

2006-01-25T13:03:25Z

Ciberdude444:

===hello everyone... I'm back!!!... again===
====muahahahahahahahahahahahaha====
me!!!!!!!!!!
#i live in A-town
#i am 73
#my name is Ciberos Fitsgerald Dude
#if you want my email or such ask me for it on my talk page
#in conclustion: go away

==quotes==
Second place is like being the tallest midget... no one cares.

Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes; that way, when you criticize them you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes!

it is now beyond all doubt that cigarettes are the largest cause of statistics

42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

...Because, if Santa and the holiday armadillo are in the same room for too long, the world will implode... Merry Christmas!!!!

I see you're drinking 1%, is that because you think you're fat? cause your not, you could be drinking whole if you wanted too.

Are You suggesting coconuts migrate?

so then i said to the guy 'if this is the house of pancakes how come i can't eat the walls?'

if at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence you tried

==(Yeah)==

Say, Hey!

Hear the sound of the falling rain

Coming down like an Armageddon flame

The shame

The ones who died without a name

Hear the dogs howling out of key

To a hymn called "Faith and Misery"

And bleed

The company that lost the war today

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

Hear the drum pounding out of time

Another protester has crossed the line

To find

The money's on the other side

Can I get another Amen? (Amen!)

There's a flag wrapped around a score of men

A gag

A plastic bag on a monument

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

"The representative from California has the floor"

Zieg heil to the president gasman,

Bombs away is your punishment.

Pulverize the Eiffel towers,

Who criticize your government.

Bang, Bang goes the broken glass and

Kill all the fags that don't agree.

Trials by fire, setting fires

Is not a way that's meant for me.

Just cause, just cause, because we're outlaws, yeah!

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives

This is our lives,

On holiday!

==another==
Everybody’s got their problems (problems)
Everybody says the same things to you
It’s just a matter how you solve them (solve them)
And knowing how to change the things you’ve been through

I fear I’ve come to realize
How fast life can be compromised
Stand back to see what’s going on
I can’t believe this happened to you, this happened to you

It’s just a problem that we’re faced with
Am I not the only one that hates to standby
Complication’s headed first in this line
With all these pictures running through my mind

Knowing endless consequences
I feel so useless in this
Get back, step back, and as for me, I can’t believe

Part of me, won’t agree
Cause I don’t know if it’s for sure
Suddenly, suddenly
I don’t feel so insecure [x2]
Anymore

Everybody’s got their problems (problems)
Everybody says the same things to you
It’s just a matter how you solve them (solve them)
What else are we supposed to do

Part of me, won’t agree
Cause I don’t know if it’s for sure
Suddenly, suddenly
I don’t feel so insecure(x2)
Anymore

(why do things that matter the most
Never end up never being what we chose
Now that I find out, it ain’t so bad
I don’t think I knew what I had) [x2]

User:Ciberdude444

2006-01-25T12:51:06Z

Ciberdude444: /* if you dont know this song you are nothing to me */

User talk:Will

2006-01-25T12:46:39Z

Ciberdude444:

== Welcome! ==
Welcome to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' I wanted to extend a personal welcome, since I believe strongly that a [[Wikipedia:Wiki|Wiki]] should be a democratic and non-threatening place where everyone feels like they can contribute. Unfortunately it can be very frustrating at first if you make changes that are ignored or changed back by other users, but if so I encourage you to hang in there; as you get a feel for the way things are done around here you'll feel more at home. That was my experience, anyway!

If you need any help, feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]] (like [[User_talk:AbdiViklas|me]]!). You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].

Here are some tips to get you started:
* If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.
* Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].
* Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[hRWiki:User space|user page]]. What you're reading right now, by the way, is the "Talk:" page that goes with your user page. It's a good way to communicate directly with specific users. The best way to respond, though, is on the same user page where the conversation was started. E.g. if you have a question, go to my [[User_talk:AbdiViklas|user talk page]] and edit it, then watch my page (via [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]]) for a response.
* If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
* If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum] and get More Community Interaction Than You Or Your Grandmother Can Handle!
* Above all, '''be bold''' and have fun!

Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. (In general, it's frowned on to delete other people's input on talk pages, but this entry is just here to be helpful. When it's done being helpful, I guarantee you won't hurt my feelings by ditching it!)

Sincerely,<br>
[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] and [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|the rest of the welcoming committee]] (00:53, 8 November 2005 (UTC))

== page ==

make a user page! it's fun--{{User:Benol/sig}} 21:49, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

==recent changes==
:Hi there seriously. Thanks for joinin the recent changes patrol. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you that I made a link to your user page (which does not exist... yet), and a datestamp, so that people can identify you a bit better. A suggestion: If you type four of these: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> it automaticly creates a link to your user page and a datestamp. Try it out! {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:11, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Um, how do you join the recent changes patrol? I went to the page but got nothing.--[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 00:43, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
:Easy. Just put your name at the bottom of the list. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:19, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== Sig Help ==

Hey Seriously, just thought I'd drop you a quick line to give you some help on signing. :) To sign your name in a STUFF vote, a Talk page or a Guestbook, type three tildes as follows: <nowiki>~~~</nowiki> - this signs your name and creates a link to your User page.

You can also type four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) to sign your name and leave the current date - this is appropriate for Talk pages and Guestbooks, but not for STUFF.

Just thought I'd help. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 17:51, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

i rock.

==hi again==
:Hi again Seriously. Just to tell you, that template you were trying to put on [[Jerome]] is <nowiki>{{tobedeleted}}</nowiki>. However, unless you have a good reason to delete it, I think it's ok the way it is. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:26, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
::Hey Seriously, [[Your Hair is Messed Up]] is an actual feature; it's just from the Everything Else DVD, which a lot of people don't have yet. That's probably why it hasn't been transcribed yet. We can't delete a legit feature like that, so I'm going to remove the template. Keep on tranglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:50, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

woah, sorry. i didn't know that. i will edit right now. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 23:58, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

:Don't worry; no harm done. I've already fixed it. In the future, you may want to read the talk page of an article if you think an article needs deleting; people may already have discussed this. That was the case for the article in question in this case. Oh, and you should sign your comments. You can do that by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after your comments. Talk atcha later! {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:55, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

thanks a lot. you are very nice for helping me learn how to do editing properly. i guess i should put my trigger-happy edit sign away for a while. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 23:58, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
:I was like that too when I was new... just ask [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:44, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

== I am bored ==
will someone put more on my talk page? how can i have fun on such an awesome website if i don't get messages n' stuff? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 01:34, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

:If you're bored you can always work on your userpage. You can also look around on other User's pages, and find Guestbooks, Quizzes, easter eggs, and other fun things. You can browse the [[Secret Pages]], you never know what you'll find there. Then there's opening a [[Special:Random|random]] wiki page, and fixing it up. You can patroll the [[Special:Recent Changes|recent changes]], and revert vandals, welcome new users, and help people who post questions on talk pages. Then there's the [[HRWiki:IRC channel|chat channel]], the [http://forum.hrwiki.org/ forum], other user's talk pages, and of course, the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/ official site]. There's all sorts of things to do, if you use your [[dreamail|imagination]]! {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:52, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

::well, i did, actually. you can read my userpage if you want. however, one question about vandals: if what they say is bad, then how do you fix it? and i have posted messages on a lot of STUFF and talk pages and noone has answered them. wah!

anyway, thanks. i like it when awesome people who know about this website (unlike me) set the standards for influencing new users. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 01:58, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

:I don't quite understand your question about vandals. You mean what do you do if somebody changes a page for the worst? Well you can always edit it yourself after, to fix what they did. If it's just badly worded or something, just editing it is fine. If they add something obviously wrong, but innocent, then you can [[HRWiki:WikiTroll#How to revert a page|revert it]], and if it's obviously blatantly vandalism, add it to [[HRWiki:WikiTroll#Offenders|the list of offenders]] or let a sysop know. They'll block them. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:04, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

sweet, thanks. i just tried it out. whoever the heck johnny is, your deletion of a goof in fall float parade is destroyed!!!!!

yeah, i get excited when i find this stuff on the wiki. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 02:07, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

:Well just make sure your edit is productive. If you looked in the comment of Jonny's edit, he had created that sentance, and then deleted it a minute later because it was already meantioned in remarks. Your re-adding has already been reverted by another user. Most edits are productive, so always check the comment before just assuming it's vandalism or counterproductive. Glad to see you taking an interest in recent changes though. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:22, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

things go a mile a minute around here! i just don't get it! it's like when mulder from the x-files is fighting to retrieve evidence from a broken train car in a navajo reservation, but fails spectacularly!

if you know what episode that's from, you get a gold star. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 02:27, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

well, i'm
signing off now. seeya later, thunderbird! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 02:29, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

:Sorry, I've never seen the X-Files before. Seya later. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 02:49, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

== Others' talk pages ==

Seriously, Ciberdude may have done some trollish things, but him blanking his own talk page is OK, now that the warnings are outdated. Please leave it alone. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:29, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

ok. sorry. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 15:31, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

i shall revert it.[[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 15:31, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== reverting my edits ==
that is not trolling, ciberdude. if you are unfamiliar with the concept of trolling, then you should look back at the things you've done. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 15:43, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

im really interested to know how that isnt trolling

im really interested to know why you keep ruining my talk page, ciberdude. and by the way, get some grammar lessons. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 15:48, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

:grammar is for nerds.

::Grammar is for people who wish to communicate in a clear, intelligent manner. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:53, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

i am logging off for now. if i see five messages from you when i get back, you are going down. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 15:49, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

:Seriously, I didn't warn you about editing other people's user talk pages just for kicks. It can indeed be considered trolling. Other actions that can be considered trolling include telling someone to get grammar lessons and telling them that they are "going down." Consider this a second warning - further actions of the same nature will result in a temporary ban. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 15:52, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

:: i belive mesing with the troll page is trolling too, i've been baned for that you know.

ok, i'm leaving now, i do have a life to get to.
see ya soon [[User:Ciberdude444|me]]

sorry. i have a lot to learn. i've been worse than ciberdude444 has. sorry. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 18:07, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, learning's what a wiki's about! (You didn't think by "knowledge base" it meant only what's coded in the pages, did you?) Thanks for doing it gracefully. And you know, if you're really interested in improving the wiki, an apology to Ciberdude would probably be a nice move; he seemed pretty ticked. (Yes, disproportionately and problematically so, but it's good to make the first move.) Again, the wiki isn't just binary code on a server; it's interpersonal relationships too, and patching them up is a direct way of contributing to the upkeep of the wiki. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:21, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the meaningless stereotypical psychological nonsense, abdi (for once, that's not sarcastic.) i have already signed his guestbook, so i think everythings in order. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 18:24, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Hm. I'm sad to see that you think signing a guestbook makes everything okay; given the two edits that followed that, everything is ''not'' okay between the two of you. And what I said above ''does'' have a meaning, actually; let me see if I can say it with fewer big words: users getting along is not just a nice thing; it actually matters to the wiki. The wiki's a community, and when you damage the community you damage the wiki—in other words, true trolling (worse, really, than vandalism). On the other hand, when you make the community better you improve the wiki (i.e. gnoming of the best kind). Bottom line: It would be great if you and Ciberdude get around to just co-existing peacefully while nursing grudges and just don't speak to each other. It would be a '''lot''' better, though, if one of you swallowed your pride, forgave the other's pettiness (by now this applies to both of you), and made the first move for peace (instead of keeping on insulting each other in little ways). And yes, I mean apologizing even though by now both of you could apologize to the other for exactly the same thing.
:Of course all this is a suggestion; I can't force you to do anything. (Unless the resentment that you guys are keeping on low flares up and somebody gets banned.) But I mean it when I say the relationships between users are part of the wiki, and if you leave one damaged you're missing an opportunity to improve the wiki. If that sounds meaningless, try reading it a few more times until you find a meaning. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:52, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

you said more on mine! meanie! kidding. read the thing i said on ciber's talk page. i did it before you even wote this, but thanks anyway. i was acting foolish, arrogant, and a ton of other words that really all mean the same thing: BAD. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 19:12, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
:Coo'. Now don't beat yourself up about it; lol! That was quite an awesome 180°; you seem like you'll make a great welcomer. By the way, I fixed some stuff on your guestbook; the problem actually wasn't with the number of 4s, but with which side of the "|" the username was on. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 19:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

seriously? that's hilarious! sometimes we get so beat up about problems we don't even understand, it's like the most ironic thing in the world. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 19:29, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks for listening, Seriously! {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:35, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

when i saw what you wrote on ciber;s talk page, i thought it had to come to an end. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 19:36, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== pretty awesome quotes ==

Hey there, Seriously. Just dropping by to tell you something. I see you added a quote to the "Pretty Awesome Quotes" section on [[User:Has Matt?|my userpage]]. While that is one of the funniest quotes I've ever heard, and I'm going to keep it there for that reason, the way it works is I have to ''find'' the quote and then ''I'' put it on there. Just letting you know so you won't do it again. Feel free to add quotes to the "Things I Wish Homsar Would Say" section though! {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 16:54, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

sorry. didn't know. but man, some of those quotes are hilarious. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 18:06, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== guestbook ==
ciberdude: i notice from your talk page that you are deleting my comment on your guestbook. you have my permission. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 22:30, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== Caution ==

This has gone on long enough. Do not edit the user page or the user talk page of Ciberdude444 ever again. Pretend that he does not exist. Do not reply to his comments on other talk pages. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:16, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

what do you mean? sure, i was bad to him a while ago, but i haven't done anything since. abdiviklas helped me patch things up. you can ask him , i swear! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:49, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:I think he was telling you this because of the discussion that is/was going on [[User talk:Ciberdude444|here]]. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:51, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

guys, i am sorry. i welcomed him to the wiki. i followed abdiviklas's advice. i even gave him permission to delete my signing on the guestbook. i want to start a clean slate! he just deleted the message that i put on his talk page saying that i apologized. i want to get out of this whole thing, but not if i'm left with a reputation of being as bad as him! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:57, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

bubsty, Dot com, i consider you guys some of the best people we have here. not because i want to suck up, but because you care enough to realize the importance of this matter. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:57, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

:In regard to why I posted here on your page: I am merely being up-front. I have warned him never to edit your user space again. You should likewise never edit his again, ''for any reason at all''. If you have a problem, you can bring it to me or another of the sysops, but if you follow these instructions, there should be no problems. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:01, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

but one question: how do i contact the sysops? what if you guys don't reach your talk pages soon enough? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 01:02, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Then you can probably do two things:
::1. Wait, and hope that one comes on soon.
::2. If it's a situation that doesn't need sysop powers, (Blocking, deleting, etc.), you can ask a frequent user who knows how things work around here. (Like me!).
:Usually, if you leave a message on someones talk page, they'll get to it soon. Depends on how frequent they are. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 01:07, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
::'''EDIT CONFLICT:''' For example, if you were to contact me, I'd respond pretty quickly, for example. Probably in 5 minutes or less. I'm pretty much always here, and I know a thing or two... I'm no sysop, but I get along pretty well... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
thanks. so..........how do i block people? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 01:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:You need to be a sysop to block people. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

thanks. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 01:13, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

:So, that should help you understand a little how things work. Also realize that we have lots of people watching out for vandalism, and that it usually gets reverted ''very'' quickly as result. Also, the sysops are very good about watching for it and knowing when they need to block people to stop them. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:19, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

==sysop nominations ==
because of the comments on the main page talk page, i have realized there is no chance of anyone being a sysop soon. however, in case there ever is, what qualities do you need to be one? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 14:27, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

:Here's my [[User talk:Homestar Coder/MayAug2005#I have a big query.|standard answer]], courtesy of [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 16:41, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

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Hope u like the expansion, Willis. --[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 21:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

== I must say, This is Quite expansive. ==

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Hope u like the expansion, Willis. --[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 21:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

you are quite lucky i don't ask someone to ban you, aidan.
[[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 23:45, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
I thought u would like it Willis! Sorry, revert it if u want.--[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 20:22, 6 January 2006 (U
I see that you did not revert it. Stow it willis.

==ADVERTISING!!!!! ==
if anyone wonders why i talk mean to trendy totebag and talk about blocking him, it's cause he is from my school. i persued him to go on this website. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:46, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
:Persuaded Willis, persuaded.--[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 18:04, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
::(Though I wouldn't put it past him to "pursue," either. :) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:44, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
isn't that great? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:46, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

== is my reputation killed? ==
because of my previous trolling and skirmish with ciberdude, i don't think i am very respected by fellow wikiers. apart from trendy totebag, does anyone think my reputation will ever be repaired? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 04:44, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
:Reputations can ALWAYS be repaired. I mean, [[User:Thunderbird L17|Thunderbird]] was a troll, wasn't he? Look what happened to him: now he's a sysop. There's always hope. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

yes, but he just deleted some stuff on peasant's quest. i made personal attacks to a user. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 04:53, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
:There's an old adage I'm reminded of: forgive and forget. What happened in the past is in the past. Focus on the future, and you're sure to become a fairly respected user. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

true. double true. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 04:59, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Word of wisdom from Me Part 1: The Awakening
Will, however much you hate certain users will not affect your reputation if you turn your life around and follow the light. But not too far. Just don't use the profane and obscene language that is so much a part of you, it seems to emanate from your mouth, and you will be fine. I'm so nominating you for sysop/admin.--[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 18:49, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
:I used to be a troll, and a really stupid person. But now I've been forgiven by ''most'' people. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 00:23, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

true. double true. here's lyrics from my fave snl skit of all time. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:52, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

lazy sunday, wake up in the late afternoon. i call up parnell to see just how he's doin.
hello? parn, just how are you doin? are you thinkin what i'm thinking? NARNIA! man, it's happenin! [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 00:52, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== Wiki Standards ==

Hi there Seriously. I advise that you review the [[HRWiki:Standards]] and the [[MetaWikipedia:Help:Contents|MediaWiki User's Guide]] before you create any more articles. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:24, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

yeah, thanks for the redirect. i won't create any more pages. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 21:24, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

==You want to be a Cool Person?==
Here's the deal. You really need to '''stand out''' in order to make it to my list. But in a positive way. I've noticed that you have been a troller in the past and that's not a good way to go (see BANNED FOR LIFE list). Trendy T. is a good kid and I'm glad he recognized me as one of those who helped him. Most of the people on my list are people who helped me or appreciate me. However, one thing bugs me. In the words of Strong Bad, "What ever happened to capitalization? It used to be so cool." -[[User:Marth 99|Marth 99]] 21:47, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

yeah, i'm not trying to do what the thing did. i don't want that. i'm just kidding around, you know? oh, and thanks for fixing that link. i am so stupid. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 21:52, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

==Space. The Final Indent.==
By the way, I noticed your edit [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Timeline&diff=233990&oldid=233909 here]. Notice how it's got a gray box around it, and extends off the right edge of the page instead of having a line break? Both of those happen because your line started with a blank space (or more than one). It can be kind of annoying in longer comments because they just go "to the right and straight on til morning." If the spaces were because you were trying to indent your comment as you see folks doing in replies, use ":"s instead. Check it out:
:Here's one!
::Here's two!
:::Here's three! You get the drill! <small>(click edit and take a look at the code to check 'em out.)</small> —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 09:17, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

::::yeah, i do this all the time. i guess i jsut forgot. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 14:06, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::oh, now i get it. i won't do it again. i try to make my comments stand out, y'know? that's why i usually do it. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 14:08, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

== !You Won The First Official Platypus Award!==
:It is my pleasure to inform you, User:Seriously, that you have won Trendy Totebag's first official Platypus Award! Trendy Totebag owes the fact that he is on hrwiki to you. Scincerely,
--[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]]'s oficcial messenger boy/kid.[[Image:platypusaward.jpg]]--[[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] 23:06, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

== scincerely?! is that the best spelling you can do? ==
thanks a lot for the trophy. um, have you heard about [[User: Bubsty]]? it's a bit sad, isn't it? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 01:51, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

== Warning ==

What part of "Do not edit the user page or the user talk page of Ciberdude444 ever again" did you not understand? Then I see you post this message: "this offending garbage before i alert a sysop." ''Before'' you alert a sysop? That is directly against what you were instructed to do. On top of that, I find that Trendy Totebag made [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3ACiberdude444&diff=230962&oldid=229427 this edit], which also is trolling. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:01, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

:look, sorry. i just felt alarmed. i wanted it to be over, and he does not realize that. trendy totebag had heard about my fight with ciberdude444, but he misunderstood, thinking that it had not been resolved. i did not pursuade him to do that edit. i promise. block me if you want. i deserve it more than trendy or ciber. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 02:05, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

::I will not be blocking you this time, but if my instructions are ignored again, I won't hesitate to do so. I have also warned Trendy Totebag and Ciberdude444, so there is no need for you to do so. I repeat: Leave each other alone. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Hey! By the way, I left a [[User talk:It's dot com#help.21|comment]] on It's dot com's talk page. Although it was technically replying to M. Totebag, it would probably be relevant for you too. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 21:46, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
::::See also my comments on my talk page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:50, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

== Me??? Cool??? ==

Why do you think I am cool???--{{User:Benol/sig}} 15:31, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

because you at least kinda welcomed me when i first came here by saying "make a user page, it's fun!" also i read your juser page and you seemed pretty cool. you don't always have to be cool to me in order to be on my cool people list. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 15:33, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== sig ==
can anyone create me a sig? i never undertand the directions. if you need my password i could give it to you, just make it cool. note: these are the people i'd like most to help me: thunderbird, abdiviklas, its dot com, gnome o' fury, and teh frossty one. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:06, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'm flattered that you'd ask me to help. First of all, though, I really, really would ''never'' give my password to anybody! (Besides which, no one would actually need it to make your sig. You'd have to go into "preferences" yourself, but that isn't too hard.) Secondly, I'm afraid I don't really have time. Somebody else might very well (maybe you could arange some kind of trade; you see stuff like that often, with users with drawing skills making pics for others in exchange for fanfics and so on), or better yet, take a shot at doing it yourself; I'll bet you'll find it easier than it looks. One other thing: some brand-new guidelines about what a sig should be have been posted at [[HRWiki:Signature]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:13, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::the problem is, i still have no idea whatsoever. believe me, i have tried, and failed spectacularly. i really don't know what the crap i am doing. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:17, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::How does this look for a sig base?
:::<blockquote>[[User:Seriously|<font color="orange">Seriously</font>]] ([[User talk:Seriously|<font color="orange">talk</font>]] <font color="orange">•</font> [[Special:Contributions/Seriously|<font color="orange">contribs</font>]])</blockquote>
:::That OK? --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}
::::great, but could you make it a different color? it's fine as is, but if it was orange, that would be great. [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:32, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::also, when i did 4 tildes on my userpage, it just came out bolded. is that for a reason? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:35, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

::If you link to the same page you are currently on, the link will become bold. See: [[User talk:Seriously]]. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 20:37, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

:::SWEET!!! so, how do i get it in action? [[User:Seriously|Seriously]] 20:48, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Start by clicking "edit" on this section; find the code Venusy left and copy it. Go to [[User:Seriously/sig]], delete what's there already, and paste it. Finally, go to your [[Special:Preferences|Preferences]], put "<nowiki>{{User:Username/sig}}</nowiki>" in the "Your nickname (for signatures)" box, and check the checkbox for "Raw signatures." Then just use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> as usual, except now it will leave a trail of day-glo customization! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:58, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

thanks for my cool new sig, guys! {{User:Seriously/sig}} 22:11, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

== WikiTroll ==

Seriously, you're not really leaving Ciberdude alone as per Dot com's instructions if you address him in your edit summaries. Let other people deal with his WikiTroll edits. I assure you, we will. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 22:54, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:You were instructed ''not'' to reply to him, and to let the sysops handle it. You were given plenty of warnings, but instead you got into an edit war where you [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:WikiTroll&diff=240405&oldid=240402 directly addressed Ciberdude444], which is ''exactly'' what you were instructed not to do. See you in a week. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:33, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
::i hate to rub it in, but isn't it kind of ironic that this was all done on wikitroll? [[User:69.162.201.219|69.162.201.219]] 00:33, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:::It's like raieeaaain on your wedding day. But rubbing it in isn't particularly helpful or necessary. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 06:50, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

==Dot com==

Well I never said anything personal against him or anything like that. He has been a little less than pleasant toward me, just cos I happen to strongly disagree with him, so I'm not exactly going to be all cheery with him. Oh well. [[User:Yeltensic|Yeltensic]] [[User talk:Yeltensic|Save the guestbooks]] 03:25, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

==Weird==
don't you think its rather odd that trendy totebag hasn't been on while you were baned?

User:Ciberdude444

2006-01-25T12:38:12Z

Ciberdude444: /* hello everyone... I'm back!!! */

HRWiki:WikiTroll

2006-01-16T22:55:02Z

Ciberdude444: here is a compramise, let it go seriously

A WikiTroll is a person who purposefully defaces a document on a wiki. There are a few methods in place for dealing with WikiTrolls.

==How to revert a page==
Any page can be reverted back to a previous version. Here's how:
*''sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Position the radio buttons at the current version and the version you want to roll back to, then click "Compare selected versions". Next, click the "rollback" link near the upper right side of the page (directly to the right of the most recent author's name).
*''non-sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Then click on the time and date of the archived version you want to revert back to. The page will appear with the version indicated at the top of the page, just underneath the page title. Next, click "edit" at the top of the page. Add a note in the Summary box that you are reverting the page because of a troll, and then click "Save page".

After repeated defacings, an offender's IP address can be blocked by [[Special:Listadmins|several users]] who have admin rights. These admins pay careful attention to this page, and will [[Special:Ipblocklist|block]] IP addresses where/when appropriate.

== Known Offenders ==
If you see any suspicious, defamatory, or objectionable behavior by any individuals on our wiki, please add their IP address to the list following the same format as the example shown below. For our purposes, an "offense" is defined as the defacement of a single document of our wiki.

=== Example ===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/13/05 || {{troll|127.0.0.1}} || [[Main Page|Page Defaced]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=1 actual edit] || Description of dastardly deed
|}

'''The general format:'''<br>Use the <nowiki>{{troll}}</nowiki> template as shown below to input the user name, which will automatically create the appropriate links.
<div style="background:#F5F5F5;padding:8px;border:1px gray dashed"><tt>|-<br><nowiki>
| 12/13/05 || {{troll|127.0.0.1}} || [[Page Defaced]] [http://link_to_actual_edit] || Description</nowiki></tt></div>



== Offenders ==

''For a listing of older offenders, please see [[HRWiki:WikiTroll Archive|the archive]].''



{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! width="250" | IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/04/05 || {{troll|Ex-troller}} || [[User:Ex-troller]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Ex-troller&oldid=210474] || Inappropriate user page; made comments about trolling before and planning to again. Also wrote a message saying, "this will probably get me banned, won't it?"
|-
| 12/11/05 || {{troll|PFloydPotter}} || [[Homestar Runner]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215378&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215378&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215376&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215375&diff=prev] || Blanked portions of the page
|-
| 12/14/05 || {{troll|Ava}} || [[User talk:Net]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANet&diff=216758&oldid=210475] ||Deleted other users messages
|-
| 12/19/05 || {{troll|Fullbide}} || [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&oldid=218690&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&oldid=218240&diff=prev] [[User Talk:Tampo]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Tampo&oldid=218743&diff=prev] [[User:Bkmlb/welcome]] || Repeatedly modified other users' comments and sections of their user pages, despite repeated warnings and requests, particularly by Tampo, to leave him alone. See page histories and diffs for more information.
|-
| 12/21/05 || {{troll|Ciberdude444}}, || [[Quote of the Week]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&diff=prev&oldid=219272] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&diff=next&oldid=219276] [[User:Salty]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3ASalty&diff=221452&oldid=221399] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Salty&diff=next&oldid=221452] HRWiki:WikiTroll [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AWikiTroll&diff=221465&oldid=221461] || Replaced text with random words/sentences. '''UPDATE:''' 12/24/05: Insulted [[User:Salty|Salty]] on his user page. Also vandalized this page. '''UPDATE:''' 1/2/06: Created 4 sockpuppet accounts.
|-
| 12/23/05 || {{troll|Seriously}} || [[Strong Bad Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&curid=732&diff=220981&oldid=218842] [[Template:STUFF/That A Ghost]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:STUFF/That_A_Ghost&diff=prev&oldid=219007] [[user_talk:Ciberdude444]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACiberdude444&diff=228417&oldid=228415] || Added nonsense personal message to [[Strong Bad Email]]. Also messed up a STUFF page, although this may have been a mistake rather than vandalism. Is apparently a repeat offender (he's already been blocked for personal attacks; see his block log.) '''UPDATE:''' 1/2/05: reverted edits of user on his own talk page. also made persnal attacks to [[user:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] on various talk pages.
|-
| 12/27/05 || {{troll|Megajake}} || [[Day at the Park]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Day_at_the_Park&diff=prev&oldid=86973] [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Decemberween_Sweet_Cuppin%27_Cakes&diff=prev&oldid=86976] [[The Cheat Theme Song]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Cheat_Theme_Song&diff=prev&oldid=86980] HRWiki:WikiTroll [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:WikiTroll&diff=prev&oldid=86982] [[User:The Chort]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:The_Chort&curid=10107&diff=223151&oldid=223146&rcid=167620] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:The_Chort&curid=10107&diff=223153&oldid=223151&rcid=167622], [[User:DorianGray]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:DorianGray&curid=10304&diff=223162&oldid=223012&rcid=167631] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:DorianGray&curid=10304&diff=223174&oldid=223173&rcid=167639], [[3 Times Halloween Funjob Costumes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=3_Times_Halloween_Funjob_Costumes&curid=14877&diff=223177&oldid=198217&rcid=167642] [[User talk:Invisible Robot Fish]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish&curid=4168&diff=223181&oldid=223179&rcid=167646], [[pooooooop]] || Added inappropriate content to pages, blanked one page, made an inappropriate page
|-
| 12/27/05 || {{troll|Homsar_4591}} || [[Fat Bluebird]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Fat_Bluebird&curid=16227&diff=223338&oldid=219474&rcid=167819] || Blanked the page. Has already been blocked for vandalism in the past.
|-
| 12/29/05 || {{troll|68.46.96.225}} || [[geddup noise]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=geddup_noise&curid=12309&diff=225152&oldid=224865&rcid=169652] || Added profanity and rudeness to defend addition of a Fun Fact.
|-
| 12/30/05 || {{troll|217.52.206.31}} || [[HRWiki:Introduction]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Introduction&diff=prev&oldid=225659] || Pharmaceutical links
|-
| 12/30/05 || {{troll|71.251.32.154}} || [[Fhqwhgads (karaoke)]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Fhqwhgads_%28karaoke%29&diff=prev&oldid=225748] || Blanked
|-
| 12/30/05 || {{troll|69.244.167.38}} || [[Strong Bad Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=prev&oldid=225859], [[family]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=family&oldid=225861] || Pretended there was a new email out and made a page for it.
|-
| 12/30/05 || {{troll|SuperKid}} || [[Homestar Jr.]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Jr.&diff=prev&oldid=225946] [[Egg Throwing Game]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Egg_Throwing_Game&diff=prev&oldid=225954] || Vandalism, added nonsense, moved [[Homestar vs. Other Little Girl]], was warned.
|-
| 1/1/06 || {{troll|12.161.96.213}} || [[guitar]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=guitar&diff=227537&oldid=227534] || Added a link to "A website that has totally nothing to do with this, but is really awesome."
|-
| 1/1/06 || {{troll|70.23.195.204}} || [[H*R.com updates 2005]], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=H%2AR.com_updates_2005&oldid=227751], [[Talk:H*R.com updates 2005]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:H%2AR.com_updates_2005&oldid=227743] || Added profane comments about TBC not updating H*R.com on both pages.
|-
| 1/1/06 || {{troll|62.253.96.42}} || [[A Jorb Well Done]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=A_Jorb_Well_Done&curid=879&diff=227863&oldid=227785&rcid=172455] [[Where The Crap Are We?]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Where_the_Crap_Are_We%3F&curid=2157&diff=227852&oldid=220976&rcid=172444] || Added "111" and "11" to the transcripts.
|-
| 1/1/06 || {{troll|86.129.244.20}} || [[User:Heimstern Läufer]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Heimstern_L%C3%A4ufer&curid=12811&diff=228018&oldid=226649&rcid=172617] [[User:Has Matt?]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Has_Matt%3F&curid=15095&diff=228014&oldid=228004&rcid=172613] [[King of Town Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=King_of_Town_Email&curid=1449&diff=228006&oldid=187379&rcid=172605] || Left insulting and sometimes inappropriate messages on user pages after blanking them.
|-
| 1/2/06 || {{troll|66.243.76.2}} || [[User:Happy]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Happy&diff=prev&oldid=228514] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Happy&diff=prev&oldid=228518] || Added profanity to user pages.
|-
| 1/2/06 || {{troll|24.225.231.107}} || [[User:Happy]] || Added profanity to user pages.
|-
| 1/3/06 || {{troll|68.79.171.230}} || [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Peasant%27s_Quest_Walkthrough&diff=prev&oldid=229198] || Added rude comment.
|-
| 1/3/06 || {{troll|Kwan3218}} || [[Quote of the Week]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&curid=906&diff=229458&oldid=229453&rcid=174127] || Blanked and added nonsense.
|-
| 1/3/06 || {{troll|Kwan3216}} || See contribs || Blanked various pages.
|-
| 1/3/06 || {{troll|The_thing}} || [[Crap]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Crap&diff=prev&oldid=229827] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Crap&diff=next&oldid=229827] [[long pants]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=long_pants&diff=prev&oldid=229841] [[User talk:Krowlontheprowl]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Krowlontheprowl&diff=prev&oldid=229876], [[User:Homestramy20]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Homestramy20&curid=9308&diff=230468&oldid=230295] || Added nonsense to pages. Added the word "no" to talk page. Added himself to another user's "Favorite users" list, then removed himself again.
|-
| 1/4/06 || {{troll|67.102.87.59}} || [[Tobias]] || Created page saying "Thee coolest person EVER!! Enough said."
|-
| 1/4/06 || {{troll|71.8.127.169}}|| [[The Li'l Brudder Show]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Li%27l_Brudder_Show&curid=6950&diff=230275&oldid=225263], [[Don and Harriet Chapman]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Don_and_Harriet_Chapman&curid=4289&diff=230274&oldid=222386], [[Ready for Prime Time]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Ready_for_Prime_Time&curid=1219&diff=230276&oldid=228759] || IP address used by {{troll|NSMC1}}
|-
| 1/13/06 || {{troll|166.87.255.132}}|| [[time capsule]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=time_capsule&curid=2248&diff=236634&oldid=235195&rcid=181593] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=time_capsule&diff=next&oldid=236635]
|| Added various nonsense to page
|-
| 01/15/06 || {{troll|Meeko}}|| [[worst email ever]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=worst_email_ever&oldid=238675] [[stunt double]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=stunt_double&curid=802&diff=238665&oldid=230657]
|| Added uneeded pages on his opinion and put a swear word in his edit summary.
|-
| 1/15/06 || {{troll|70.110.193.123}}|| [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HomestarRunner.com_PAY_PLUS%21&curid=6402&diff=239133&oldid=227080] || Put nonsense on page.
|-
| 1/16/06 || {{troll|72.232.10.226}}|| [[User:Aram]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Aram&curid=2107&diff=239461&oldid=229500] || Vandalized Aram's user page with inappropriate language
|}

HRWiki:WikiTroll

2006-01-16T22:50:38Z

Ciberdude444: rv

A WikiTroll is a person who purposefully defaces a document on a wiki. There are a few methods in place for dealing with WikiTrolls.

==How to revert a page==
Any page can be reverted back to a previous version. Here's how:
*''sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Position the radio buttons at the current version and the version you want to roll back to, then click "Compare selected versions". Next, click the "rollback" link near the upper right side of the page (directly to the right of the most recent author's name).
*''non-sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Then click on the time and date of the archived version you want to revert back to. The page will appear with the version indicated at the top of the page, just underneath the page title. Next, click "edit" at the top of the page. Add a note in the Summary box that you are reverting the page because of a troll, and then click "Save page".

After repeated defacings, an offender's IP address can be blocked by [[Special:Listadmins|several users]] who have admin rights. These admins pay careful attention to this page, and will [[Special:Ipblocklist|block]] IP addresses where/when appropriate.

== Known Offenders ==
If you see any suspicious, defamatory, or objectionable behavior by any individuals on our wiki, please add their IP address to the list following the same format as the example shown below. For our purposes, an "offense" is defined as the defacement of a single document of our wiki.

=== Example ===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/13/05 || {{troll|127.0.0.1}} || [[Main Page|Page Defaced]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=1 actual edit] || Description of dastardly deed
|}

'''The general format:'''<br>Use the <nowiki>{{troll}}</nowiki> template as shown below to input the user name, which will automatically create the appropriate links.
<div style="background:#F5F5F5;padding:8px;border:1px gray dashed"><tt>|-<br><nowiki>
| 12/13/05 || {{troll|127.0.0.1}} || [[Page Defaced]] [http://link_to_actual_edit] || Description</nowiki></tt></div>



== Offenders ==

''For a listing of older offenders, please see [[HRWiki:WikiTroll Archive|the archive]].''



{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! width="250" | IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/04/05 || {{troll|Ex-troller}} || [[User:Ex-troller]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Ex-troller&oldid=210474] || Inappropriate user page; made comments about trolling before and planning to again. Also wrote a message saying, "this will probably get me banned, won't it?"
|-
| 12/11/05 || {{troll|PFloydPotter}} || [[Homestar Runner]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215378&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215378&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215376&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215375&diff=prev] || Blanked portions of the page
|-
| 12/14/05 || {{troll|Ava}} || [[User talk:Net]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANet&diff=216758&oldid=210475] ||Deleted other users messages
|-
| 12/19/05 || {{troll|Fullbide}} || [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&oldid=218690&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&oldid=218240&diff=prev] [[User Talk:Tampo]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Tampo&oldid=218743&diff=prev] [[User:Bkmlb/welcome]] || Repeatedly modified other users' comments and sections of their user pages, despite repeated warnings and requests, particularly by Tampo, to leave him alone. See page histories and diffs for more information.
|-
| 12/21/05 || {{troll|Ciberdude444}}, || [[Quote of the Week]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&diff=prev&oldid=219272] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&diff=next&oldid=219276] [[User:Salty]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3ASalty&diff=221452&oldid=221399] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Salty&diff=next&oldid=221452] HRWiki:WikiTroll [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AWikiTroll&diff=221465&oldid=221461] || Replaced text with random words/sentences. '''UPDATE:''' 12/24/05: Insulted [[User:Salty|Salty]] on his user page. Also vandalized this page.
|-
| 12/23/05 || {{troll|Seriously}} || [[Strong Bad Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&curid=732&diff=220981&oldid=218842] [[Template:STUFF/That A Ghost]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:STUFF/That_A_Ghost&diff=prev&oldid=219007] || Added nonsense personal message to [[Strong Bad Email]]. Also messed up a STUFF page, although this may have been a mistake rather than vandalism. Is apparently a repeat offender (he's already been blocked for personal attacks; see his block log.)
|-
| 12/27/05 || {{troll|Megajake}} || [[Day at the Park]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Day_at_the_Park&diff=prev&oldid=86973] [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Decemberween_Sweet_Cuppin%27_Cakes&diff=prev&oldid=86976] [[The Cheat Theme Song]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Cheat_Theme_Song&diff=prev&oldid=86980] HRWiki:WikiTroll [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:WikiTroll&diff=prev&oldid=86982] [[User:The Chort]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:The_Chort&curid=10107&diff=223151&oldid=223146&rcid=167620] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:The_Chort&curid=10107&diff=223153&oldid=223151&rcid=167622], [[User:DorianGray]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:DorianGray&curid=10304&diff=223162&oldid=223012&rcid=167631] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:DorianGray&curid=10304&diff=223174&oldid=223173&rcid=167639], [[3 Times Halloween Funjob Costumes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=3_Times_Halloween_Funjob_Costumes&curid=14877&diff=223177&oldid=198217&rcid=167642] [[User talk:Invisible Robot Fish]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish&curid=4168&diff=223181&oldid=223179&rcid=167646], [[pooooooop]] || Added inappropriate content to pages, blanked one page, made an inappropriate page
|-
| 12/27/05 || {{troll|Homsar_4591}} || [[Fat Bluebird]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Fat_Bluebird&curid=16227&diff=223338&oldid=219474&rcid=167819] || Blanked the page. Has already been blocked for vandalism in the past.
|-
| 12/29/05 || {{troll|68.46.96.225}} || [[geddup noise]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=geddup_noise&curid=12309&diff=225152&oldid=224865&rcid=169652] || Added profanity and rudeness to defend addition of a Fun Fact.
|-
| 12/30/05 || {{troll|217.52.206.31}} || [[HRWiki:Introduction]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Introduction&diff=prev&oldid=225659] || Pharmaceutical links
|-
| 12/30/05 || {{troll|71.251.32.154}} || [[Fhqwhgads (karaoke)]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Fhqwhgads_%28karaoke%29&diff=prev&oldid=225748] || Blanked
|-
| 12/30/05 || {{troll|69.244.167.38}} || [[Strong Bad Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=prev&oldid=225859], [[family]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=family&oldid=225861] || Pretended there was a new email out and made a page for it.
|-
| 12/30/05 || {{troll|SuperKid}} || [[Homestar Jr.]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Jr.&diff=prev&oldid=225946] [[Egg Throwing Game]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Egg_Throwing_Game&diff=prev&oldid=225954] || Vandalism, added nonsense, moved [[Homestar vs. Other Little Girl]], was warned.
|-
| 1/1/06 || {{troll|12.161.96.213}} || [[guitar]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=guitar&diff=227537&oldid=227534] || Added a link to "A website that has totally nothing to do with this, but is really awesome."
|-
| 1/1/06 || {{troll|70.23.195.204}} || [[H*R.com updates 2005]], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=H%2AR.com_updates_2005&oldid=227751], [[Talk:H*R.com updates 2005]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:H%2AR.com_updates_2005&oldid=227743] || Added profane comments about TBC not updating H*R.com on both pages.
|-
| 1/1/06 || {{troll|62.253.96.42}} || [[A Jorb Well Done]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=A_Jorb_Well_Done&curid=879&diff=227863&oldid=227785&rcid=172455] [[Where The Crap Are We?]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Where_the_Crap_Are_We%3F&curid=2157&diff=227852&oldid=220976&rcid=172444] || Added "111" and "11" to the transcripts.
|-
| 1/1/06 || {{troll|86.129.244.20}} || [[User:Heimstern Läufer]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Heimstern_L%C3%A4ufer&curid=12811&diff=228018&oldid=226649&rcid=172617] [[User:Has Matt?]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Has_Matt%3F&curid=15095&diff=228014&oldid=228004&rcid=172613] [[King of Town Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=King_of_Town_Email&curid=1449&diff=228006&oldid=187379&rcid=172605] || Left insulting and sometimes inappropriate messages on user pages after blanking them.
|-
| 1/2/06 || {{troll|66.243.76.2}} || [[User:Happy]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Happy&diff=prev&oldid=228514] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Happy&diff=prev&oldid=228518] || Added profanity to user pages.
|-
| 1/2/06 || {{troll|24.225.231.107}} || [[User:Happy]] || Added profanity to user pages.
|-
| 1/3/06 || {{troll|68.79.171.230}} || [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Peasant%27s_Quest_Walkthrough&diff=prev&oldid=229198] || Added rude comment.
|-
| 1/3/06 || {{troll|Kwan3218}} || [[Quote of the Week]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&curid=906&diff=229458&oldid=229453&rcid=174127] || Blanked and added nonsense.
|-
| 1/3/06 || {{troll|Kwan3216}} || See contribs || Blanked various pages.
|-
| 1/3/06 || {{troll|The_thing}} || [[Crap]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Crap&diff=prev&oldid=229827] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Crap&diff=next&oldid=229827] [[long pants]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=long_pants&diff=prev&oldid=229841] [[User talk:Krowlontheprowl]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Krowlontheprowl&diff=prev&oldid=229876], [[User:Homestramy20]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Homestramy20&curid=9308&diff=230468&oldid=230295] || Added nonsense to pages. Added the word "no" to talk page. Added himself to another user's "Favorite users" list, then removed himself again.
|-
| 1/4/06 || {{troll|67.102.87.59}} || [[Tobias]] || Created page saying "Thee coolest person EVER!! Enough said."
|-
| 1/4/06 || {{troll|71.8.127.169}}|| [[The Li'l Brudder Show]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Li%27l_Brudder_Show&curid=6950&diff=230275&oldid=225263], [[Don and Harriet Chapman]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Don_and_Harriet_Chapman&curid=4289&diff=230274&oldid=222386], [[Ready for Prime Time]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Ready_for_Prime_Time&curid=1219&diff=230276&oldid=228759] || IP address used by {{troll|NSMC1}}
|-
| 1/13/06 || {{troll|166.87.255.132}}|| [[time capsule]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=time_capsule&curid=2248&diff=236634&oldid=235195&rcid=181593] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=time_capsule&diff=next&oldid=236635]
|| Added various nonsense to page
|-
| 01/15/06 || {{troll|Meeko}}|| [[worst email ever]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=worst_email_ever&oldid=238675] [[stunt double]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=stunt_double&curid=802&diff=238665&oldid=230657]
|| Added uneeded pages on his opinion and put a swear word in his edit summary.
|-
| 1/15/06 || {{troll|70.110.193.123}}|| [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HomestarRunner.com_PAY_PLUS%21&curid=6402&diff=239133&oldid=227080] || Put nonsense on page.
|-
| 1/16/06 || {{troll|72.232.10.226}}|| [[User:Aram]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Aram&curid=2107&diff=239461&oldid=229500] || Vandalized Aram's user page with inappropriate language
|}

User talk:Rogue Leader

2006-01-16T22:44:25Z

Ciberdude444: /* Trendy Totebag */

I have made an [[User talk:Rogue Leader/archive|archive recently]]. Check there for old messages. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:05, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Trendy Totebag==
How is he special enough to not be listed as a troll? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 22:40, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

You can't bring this up now. TT was just being a stupid user, and it was a first offense. Me and ''many'' other users are sick of this. As Dot com previously said, pretend that they don't exist, or you will get blocked. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 22:43, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

and why dont tehy get blocked? you gave them the same warning but they continued to bother me. [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 22:44, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

HRWiki:WikiTroll

2006-01-16T22:42:11Z

Ciberdude444: sockpuppets aren't "malicious"

A WikiTroll is a person who purposefully defaces a document on a wiki. There are a few methods in place for dealing with WikiTrolls.

==How to revert a page==
Any page can be reverted back to a previous version. Here's how:
*''sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Position the radio buttons at the current version and the version you want to roll back to, then click "Compare selected versions". Next, click the "rollback" link near the upper right side of the page (directly to the right of the most recent author's name).
*''non-sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Then click on the time and date of the archived version you want to revert back to. The page will appear with the version indicated at the top of the page, just underneath the page title. Next, click "edit" at the top of the page. Add a note in the Summary box that you are reverting the page because of a troll, and then click "Save page".

After repeated defacings, an offender's IP address can be blocked by [[Special:Listadmins|several users]] who have admin rights. These admins pay careful attention to this page, and will [[Special:Ipblocklist|block]] IP addresses where/when appropriate.

== Known Offenders ==
If you see any suspicious, defamatory, or objectionable behavior by any individuals on our wiki, please add their IP address to the list following the same format as the example shown below. For our purposes, an "offense" is defined as the defacement of a single document of our wiki.

=== Example ===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/13/05 || {{troll|127.0.0.1}} || [[Main Page|Page Defaced]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=1 actual edit] || Description of dastardly deed
|}

'''The general format:'''<br>Use the <nowiki>{{troll}}</nowiki> template as shown below to input the user name, which will automatically create the appropriate links.
<div style="background:#F5F5F5;padding:8px;border:1px gray dashed"><tt>|-<br><nowiki>
| 12/13/05 || {{troll|127.0.0.1}} || [[Page Defaced]] [http://link_to_actual_edit] || Description</nowiki></tt></div>



== Offenders ==

''For a listing of older offenders, please see [[HRWiki:WikiTroll Archive|the archive]].''



{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! width="250" | IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/04/05 || {{troll|Ex-troller}} || [[User:Ex-troller]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Ex-troller&oldid=210474] || Inappropriate user page; made comments about trolling before and planning to again. Also wrote a message saying, "this will probably get me banned, won't it?"
|-
| 12/11/05 || {{troll|PFloydPotter}} || [[Homestar Runner]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215378&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215378&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215376&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215375&diff=prev] || Blanked portions of the page
|-
| 12/14/05 || {{troll|Ava}} || [[User talk:Net]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANet&diff=216758&oldid=210475] ||Deleted other users messages
|-
| 12/19/05 || {{troll|Fullbide}} || [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&oldid=218690&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&oldid=218240&diff=prev] [[User Talk:Tampo]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Tampo&oldid=218743&diff=prev] [[User:Bkmlb/welcome]] || Repeatedly modified other users' comments and sections of their user pages, despite repeated warnings and requests, particularly by Tampo, to leave him alone. See page histories and diffs for more information.
|-
| 12/21/05 || {{troll|Ciberdude444}}, || [[Quote of the Week]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&diff=prev&oldid=219272] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&diff=next&oldid=219276] [[User:Salty]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3ASalty&diff=221452&oldid=221399] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Salty&diff=next&oldid=221452] HRWiki:WikiTroll [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AWikiTroll&diff=221465&oldid=221461] || Replaced text with random words/sentences. '''UPDATE:''' 12/24/05: Insulted [[User:Salty|Salty]] on his user page. Also vandalized this page.
|-
| 12/23/05 || {{troll|Seriously}} || [[Strong Bad Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&curid=732&diff=220981&oldid=218842] [[Template:STUFF/That A Ghost]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:STUFF/That_A_Ghost&diff=prev&oldid=219007] || Added nonsense personal message to [[Strong Bad Email]]. Also messed up a STUFF page, although this may have been a mistake rather than vandalism. Is apparently a repeat offender (he's already been blocked for personal attacks; see his block log.)
|-
| 12/27/05 || {{troll|Megajake}} || [[Day at the Park]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Day_at_the_Park&diff=prev&oldid=86973] [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Decemberween_Sweet_Cuppin%27_Cakes&diff=prev&oldid=86976] [[The Cheat Theme Song]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Cheat_Theme_Song&diff=prev&oldid=86980] HRWiki:WikiTroll [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:WikiTroll&diff=prev&oldid=86982] [[User:The Chort]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:The_Chort&curid=10107&diff=223151&oldid=223146&rcid=167620] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:The_Chort&curid=10107&diff=223153&oldid=223151&rcid=167622], [[User:DorianGray]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:DorianGray&curid=10304&diff=223162&oldid=223012&rcid=167631] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:DorianGray&curid=10304&diff=223174&oldid=223173&rcid=167639], [[3 Times Halloween Funjob Costumes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=3_Times_Halloween_Funjob_Costumes&curid=14877&diff=223177&oldid=198217&rcid=167642] [[User talk:Invisible Robot Fish]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish&curid=4168&diff=223181&oldid=223179&rcid=167646], [[pooooooop]] || Added inappropriate content to pages, blanked one page, made an inappropriate page
|-
| 12/27/05 || {{troll|Homsar_4591}} || [[Fat Bluebird]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Fat_Bluebird&curid=16227&diff=223338&oldid=219474&rcid=167819] || Blanked the page. Has already been blocked for vandalism in the past.
|-
| 12/29/05 || {{troll|68.46.96.225}} || [[geddup noise]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=geddup_noise&curid=12309&diff=225152&oldid=224865&rcid=169652] || Added profanity and rudeness to defend addition of a Fun Fact.
|-
| 12/30/05 || {{troll|217.52.206.31}} || [[HRWiki:Introduction]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Introduction&diff=prev&oldid=225659] || Pharmaceutical links
|-
| 12/30/05 || {{troll|71.251.32.154}} || [[Fhqwhgads (karaoke)]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Fhqwhgads_%28karaoke%29&diff=prev&oldid=225748] || Blanked
|-
| 12/30/05 || {{troll|69.244.167.38}} || [[Strong Bad Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=prev&oldid=225859], [[family]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=family&oldid=225861] || Pretended there was a new email out and made a page for it.
|-
| 12/30/05 || {{troll|SuperKid}} || [[Homestar Jr.]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Jr.&diff=prev&oldid=225946] [[Egg Throwing Game]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Egg_Throwing_Game&diff=prev&oldid=225954] || Vandalism, added nonsense, moved [[Homestar vs. Other Little Girl]], was warned.
|-
| 1/1/06 || {{troll|12.161.96.213}} || [[guitar]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=guitar&diff=227537&oldid=227534] || Added a link to "A website that has totally nothing to do with this, but is really awesome."
|-
| 1/1/06 || {{troll|70.23.195.204}} || [[H*R.com updates 2005]], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=H%2AR.com_updates_2005&oldid=227751], [[Talk:H*R.com updates 2005]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:H%2AR.com_updates_2005&oldid=227743] || Added profane comments about TBC not updating H*R.com on both pages.
|-
| 1/1/06 || {{troll|62.253.96.42}} || [[A Jorb Well Done]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=A_Jorb_Well_Done&curid=879&diff=227863&oldid=227785&rcid=172455] [[Where The Crap Are We?]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Where_the_Crap_Are_We%3F&curid=2157&diff=227852&oldid=220976&rcid=172444] || Added "111" and "11" to the transcripts.
|-
| 1/1/06 || {{troll|86.129.244.20}} || [[User:Heimstern Läufer]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Heimstern_L%C3%A4ufer&curid=12811&diff=228018&oldid=226649&rcid=172617] [[User:Has Matt?]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Has_Matt%3F&curid=15095&diff=228014&oldid=228004&rcid=172613] [[King of Town Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=King_of_Town_Email&curid=1449&diff=228006&oldid=187379&rcid=172605] || Left insulting and sometimes inappropriate messages on user pages after blanking them.
|-
| 1/2/06 || {{troll|66.243.76.2}} || [[User:Happy]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Happy&diff=prev&oldid=228514] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Happy&diff=prev&oldid=228518] || Added profanity to user pages.
|-
| 1/2/06 || {{troll|24.225.231.107}} || [[User:Happy]] || Added profanity to user pages.
|-
| 1/3/06 || {{troll|68.79.171.230}} || [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Peasant%27s_Quest_Walkthrough&diff=prev&oldid=229198] || Added rude comment.
|-
| 1/3/06 || {{troll|Kwan3218}} || [[Quote of the Week]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&curid=906&diff=229458&oldid=229453&rcid=174127] || Blanked and added nonsense.
|-
| 1/3/06 || {{troll|Kwan3216}} || See contribs || Blanked various pages.
|-
| 1/3/06 || {{troll|The_thing}} || [[Crap]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Crap&diff=prev&oldid=229827] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Crap&diff=next&oldid=229827] [[long pants]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=long_pants&diff=prev&oldid=229841] [[User talk:Krowlontheprowl]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Krowlontheprowl&diff=prev&oldid=229876], [[User:Homestramy20]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Homestramy20&curid=9308&diff=230468&oldid=230295] || Added nonsense to pages. Added the word "no" to talk page. Added himself to another user's "Favorite users" list, then removed himself again.
|-
| 1/4/06 || {{troll|67.102.87.59}} || [[Tobias]] || Created page saying "Thee coolest person EVER!! Enough said."
|-
| 1/4/06 || {{troll|71.8.127.169}}|| [[The Li'l Brudder Show]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Li%27l_Brudder_Show&curid=6950&diff=230275&oldid=225263], [[Don and Harriet Chapman]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Don_and_Harriet_Chapman&curid=4289&diff=230274&oldid=222386], [[Ready for Prime Time]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Ready_for_Prime_Time&curid=1219&diff=230276&oldid=228759] || IP address used by {{troll|NSMC1}}
|-
| 1/13/06 || {{troll|166.87.255.132}}|| [[time capsule]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=time_capsule&curid=2248&diff=236634&oldid=235195&rcid=181593] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=time_capsule&diff=next&oldid=236635]
|| Added various nonsense to page
|-
| 01/15/06 || {{troll|Meeko}}|| [[worst email ever]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=worst_email_ever&oldid=238675] [[stunt double]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=stunt_double&curid=802&diff=238665&oldid=230657]
|| Added uneeded pages on his opinion and put a swear word in his edit summary.
|-
| 1/15/06 || {{troll|70.110.193.123}}|| [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HomestarRunner.com_PAY_PLUS%21&curid=6402&diff=239133&oldid=227080] || Put nonsense on page.
|-
| 1/16/06 || {{troll|72.232.10.226}}|| [[User:Aram]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Aram&curid=2107&diff=239461&oldid=229500] || Vandalized Aram's user page with inappropriate language
|}

User talk:Rogue Leader

2006-01-16T22:40:33Z

Ciberdude444:

HRWiki:WikiTroll

2006-01-16T22:37:01Z

Ciberdude444: please tell me how that isnt trolling

A WikiTroll is a person who purposefully defaces a document on a wiki. There are a few methods in place for dealing with WikiTrolls.

==How to revert a page==
Any page can be reverted back to a previous version. Here's how:
*''sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Position the radio buttons at the current version and the version you want to roll back to, then click "Compare selected versions". Next, click the "rollback" link near the upper right side of the page (directly to the right of the most recent author's name).
*''non-sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Then click on the time and date of the archived version you want to revert back to. The page will appear with the version indicated at the top of the page, just underneath the page title. Next, click "edit" at the top of the page. Add a note in the Summary box that you are reverting the page because of a troll, and then click "Save page".

After repeated defacings, an offender's IP address can be blocked by [[Special:Listadmins|several users]] who have admin rights. These admins pay careful attention to this page, and will [[Special:Ipblocklist|block]] IP addresses where/when appropriate.

== Known Offenders ==
If you see any suspicious, defamatory, or objectionable behavior by any individuals on our wiki, please add their IP address to the list following the same format as the example shown below. For our purposes, an "offense" is defined as the defacement of a single document of our wiki.

=== Example ===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/13/05 || {{troll|127.0.0.1}} || [[Main Page|Page Defaced]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=1 actual edit] || Description of dastardly deed
|}

'''The general format:'''<br>Use the <nowiki>{{troll}}</nowiki> template as shown below to input the user name, which will automatically create the appropriate links.
<div style="background:#F5F5F5;padding:8px;border:1px gray dashed"><tt>|-<br><nowiki>
| 12/13/05 || {{troll|127.0.0.1}} || [[Page Defaced]] [http://link_to_actual_edit] || Description</nowiki></tt></div>



== Offenders ==

''For a listing of older offenders, please see [[HRWiki:WikiTroll Archive|the archive]].''



{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! width="250" | IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/04/05 || {{troll|Ex-troller}} || [[User:Ex-troller]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Ex-troller&oldid=210474] || Inappropriate user page; made comments about trolling before and planning to again. Also wrote a message saying, "this will probably get me banned, won't it?"
|-
| 12/11/05 || {{troll|PFloydPotter}} || [[Homestar Runner]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215378&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215378&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215376&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215375&diff=prev] || Blanked portions of the page
|-
| 12/14/05 || {{troll|Ava}} || [[User talk:Net]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANet&diff=216758&oldid=210475] ||Deleted other users messages
|-
| 12/19/05 || {{troll|Fullbide}} || [[Talk:Stinkoman 20X6 Enemies]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&oldid=218690&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Stinkoman_20X6_Enemies&oldid=218240&diff=prev] [[User Talk:Tampo]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Tampo&oldid=218743&diff=prev] [[User:Bkmlb/welcome]] || Repeatedly modified other users' comments and sections of their user pages, despite repeated warnings and requests, particularly by Tampo, to leave him alone. See page histories and diffs for more information.
|-
| 12/21/05 || {{troll|Ciberdude444}}, || [[Quote of the Week]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&diff=prev&oldid=219272] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&diff=next&oldid=219276] [[User:Salty]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3ASalty&diff=221452&oldid=221399] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Salty&diff=next&oldid=221452] HRWiki:WikiTroll [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AWikiTroll&diff=221465&oldid=221461] || Replaced text with random words/sentences. '''UPDATE:''' 12/24/05: Insulted [[User:Salty|Salty]] on his user page. Also vandalized this page. '''UPDATE:''' 1/2/06: Created 4 sockpuppet accounts.
|-
| 12/23/05 || {{troll|Seriously}} || [[Strong Bad Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&curid=732&diff=220981&oldid=218842] [[Template:STUFF/That A Ghost]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template:STUFF/That_A_Ghost&diff=prev&oldid=219007] || Added nonsense personal message to [[Strong Bad Email]]. Also messed up a STUFF page, although this may have been a mistake rather than vandalism. Is apparently a repeat offender (he's already been blocked for personal attacks; see his block log.)
|-
| 12/27/05 || {{troll|Megajake}} || [[Day at the Park]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Day_at_the_Park&diff=prev&oldid=86973] [[Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Decemberween_Sweet_Cuppin%27_Cakes&diff=prev&oldid=86976] [[The Cheat Theme Song]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Cheat_Theme_Song&diff=prev&oldid=86980] HRWiki:WikiTroll [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:WikiTroll&diff=prev&oldid=86982] [[User:The Chort]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:The_Chort&curid=10107&diff=223151&oldid=223146&rcid=167620] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:The_Chort&curid=10107&diff=223153&oldid=223151&rcid=167622], [[User:DorianGray]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:DorianGray&curid=10304&diff=223162&oldid=223012&rcid=167631] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:DorianGray&curid=10304&diff=223174&oldid=223173&rcid=167639], [[3 Times Halloween Funjob Costumes]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=3_Times_Halloween_Funjob_Costumes&curid=14877&diff=223177&oldid=198217&rcid=167642] [[User talk:Invisible Robot Fish]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Invisible_Robot_Fish&curid=4168&diff=223181&oldid=223179&rcid=167646], [[pooooooop]] || Added inappropriate content to pages, blanked one page, made an inappropriate page
|-
| 12/27/05 || {{troll|Homsar_4591}} || [[Fat Bluebird]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Fat_Bluebird&curid=16227&diff=223338&oldid=219474&rcid=167819] || Blanked the page. Has already been blocked for vandalism in the past.
|-
| 12/29/05 || {{troll|68.46.96.225}} || [[geddup noise]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=geddup_noise&curid=12309&diff=225152&oldid=224865&rcid=169652] || Added profanity and rudeness to defend addition of a Fun Fact.
|-
| 12/30/05 || {{troll|217.52.206.31}} || [[HRWiki:Introduction]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:Introduction&diff=prev&oldid=225659] || Pharmaceutical links
|-
| 12/30/05 || {{troll|71.251.32.154}} || [[Fhqwhgads (karaoke)]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Fhqwhgads_%28karaoke%29&diff=prev&oldid=225748] || Blanked
|-
| 12/30/05 || {{troll|69.244.167.38}} || [[Strong Bad Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Strong_Bad_Email&diff=prev&oldid=225859], [[family]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=family&oldid=225861] || Pretended there was a new email out and made a page for it.
|-
| 12/30/05 || {{troll|SuperKid}} || [[Homestar Jr.]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Jr.&diff=prev&oldid=225946] [[Egg Throwing Game]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Egg_Throwing_Game&diff=prev&oldid=225954] || Vandalism, added nonsense, moved [[Homestar vs. Other Little Girl]], was warned.
|-
| 1/1/06 || {{troll|12.161.96.213}} || [[guitar]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=guitar&diff=227537&oldid=227534] || Added a link to "A website that has totally nothing to do with this, but is really awesome."
|-
| 1/1/06 || {{troll|70.23.195.204}} || [[H*R.com updates 2005]], [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=H%2AR.com_updates_2005&oldid=227751], [[Talk:H*R.com updates 2005]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:H%2AR.com_updates_2005&oldid=227743] || Added profane comments about TBC not updating H*R.com on both pages.
|-
| 1/1/06 || {{troll|62.253.96.42}} || [[A Jorb Well Done]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=A_Jorb_Well_Done&curid=879&diff=227863&oldid=227785&rcid=172455] [[Where The Crap Are We?]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Where_the_Crap_Are_We%3F&curid=2157&diff=227852&oldid=220976&rcid=172444] || Added "111" and "11" to the transcripts.
|-
| 1/1/06 || {{troll|86.129.244.20}} || [[User:Heimstern Läufer]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Heimstern_L%C3%A4ufer&curid=12811&diff=228018&oldid=226649&rcid=172617] [[User:Has Matt?]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Has_Matt%3F&curid=15095&diff=228014&oldid=228004&rcid=172613] [[King of Town Email]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=King_of_Town_Email&curid=1449&diff=228006&oldid=187379&rcid=172605] || Left insulting and sometimes inappropriate messages on user pages after blanking them.
|-
| 1/2/06 || {{troll|66.243.76.2}} || [[User:Happy]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Happy&diff=prev&oldid=228514] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Happy&diff=prev&oldid=228518] || Added profanity to user pages.
|-
| 1/2/06 || {{troll|24.225.231.107}} || [[User:Happy]] || Added profanity to user pages.
|-
| 1/3/06 || {{troll|68.79.171.230}} || [[Peasant's Quest Walkthrough]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Peasant%27s_Quest_Walkthrough&diff=prev&oldid=229198] || Added rude comment.
|-
| 1/3/06 || {{troll|Kwan3218}} || [[Quote of the Week]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&curid=906&diff=229458&oldid=229453&rcid=174127] || Blanked and added nonsense.
|-
| 1/3/06 || {{troll|Kwan3216}} || See contribs || Blanked various pages.
|-
| 1/3/06 || {{troll|The_thing}} || [[Crap]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Crap&diff=prev&oldid=229827] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Crap&diff=next&oldid=229827] [[long pants]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=long_pants&diff=prev&oldid=229841] [[User talk:Krowlontheprowl]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Krowlontheprowl&diff=prev&oldid=229876], [[User:Homestramy20]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Homestramy20&curid=9308&diff=230468&oldid=230295] || Added nonsense to pages. Added the word "no" to talk page. Added himself to another user's "Favorite users" list, then removed himself again.
|-
| 1/4/06 || {{troll|67.102.87.59}} || [[Tobias]] || Created page saying "Thee coolest person EVER!! Enough said."
|-
| 1/4/06 || {{troll|71.8.127.169}}|| [[The Li'l Brudder Show]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=The_Li%27l_Brudder_Show&curid=6950&diff=230275&oldid=225263], [[Don and Harriet Chapman]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Don_and_Harriet_Chapman&curid=4289&diff=230274&oldid=222386], [[Ready for Prime Time]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Ready_for_Prime_Time&curid=1219&diff=230276&oldid=228759] || IP address used by {{troll|NSMC1}}
|-
| 1/13/06 || {{troll|166.87.255.132}}|| [[time capsule]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=time_capsule&curid=2248&diff=236634&oldid=235195&rcid=181593] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=time_capsule&diff=next&oldid=236635]
|| Added various nonsense to page
|-
| 01/15/06 || {{troll|Meeko}}|| [[worst email ever]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=worst_email_ever&oldid=238675] [[stunt double]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=stunt_double&curid=802&diff=238665&oldid=230657]
|| Added uneeded pages on his opinion and put a swear word in his edit summary.
|-
| 1/15/06 || {{troll|70.110.193.123}}|| [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HomestarRunner.com_PAY_PLUS%21&curid=6402&diff=239133&oldid=227080] || Put nonsense on page.
|-
| 1/16/06 || {{troll|72.232.10.226}}|| [[User:Aram]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Aram&curid=2107&diff=239461&oldid=229500] || Vandalized Aram's user page with inappropriate language
|-
| 1/5/06 || {{troll|Trendy Totebag}}|| [[user:Ciberdude444]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3ACiberdude444&diff=230961&oldid=229427] || Vandalized User:Ciberdude444 with personal attacks
|}

HRWiki:WikiTroll

2006-01-16T22:34:18Z

Ciberdude444: /* Offenders */ updated seriously

User:Ciberdude444

2006-01-16T22:19:40Z

Ciberdude444: /* my sig */

===hello everyone... I'm back!!!===
====muahahahahahahahahahahahaha====
me!!!!!!!!!!
#i live in A-town
#i am 73
#my name is Ciberos Fitsgerald Dude
#if you want my email or such ask me for it on my talk page
#in conclustion: go away

==quotes==
Second place is like being the tallest midget... no one cares.

Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes; that way, when you criticize them you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes!

it is now beyond all doubt that cigarettes are the largest cause of statistics

42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

...Because, if Santa and the holiday armadillo are in the same room for too long, the world will implode... Merry Christmas!!!!

I see you're drinking 1%, is that because you think you're fat? cause your not, you could be drinking whole if you wanted too.

Are You suggesting coconuts migrate?

so then i said to the guy 'if this is the house of pancakes how come i can't eat the walls?'

if at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence you tried

==if you dont know this song you are nothing to me==

Say, Hey!

Hear the sound of the falling rain

Coming down like an Armageddon flame

The shame

The ones who died without a name

Hear the dogs howling out of key

To a hymn called "Faith and Misery"

And bleed

The company that lost the war today

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

Hear the drum pounding out of time

Another protester has crossed the line

To find

The money's on the other side

Can I get another Amen? (Amen!)

There's a flag wrapped around a score of men

A gag

A plastic bag on a monument

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

"The representative from California has the floor"

Zieg heil to the president gasman,

Bombs away is your punishment.

Pulverize the Eiffel towers,

Who criticize your government.

Bang, Bang goes the broken glass and

Kill all the fags that don't agree.

Trials by fire, setting fires

Is not a way that's meant for me.

Just cause, just cause, because we're outlaws, yeah!

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives

This is our lives,

On holiday!

HRWiki:WikiTroll

2006-01-16T22:18:36Z

Ciberdude444: /* Offenders */ trendy totebag

A WikiTroll is a person who purposefully defaces a document on a wiki. There are a few methods in place for dealing with WikiTrolls.

==How to revert a page==
Any page can be reverted back to a previous version. Here's how:
*''sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Position the radio buttons at the current version and the version you want to roll back to, then click "Compare selected versions". Next, click the "rollback" link near the upper right side of the page (directly to the right of the most recent author's name).
*''non-sysop:'' Simply click "history" at the top of the page you wish to roll back. Then click on the time and date of the archived version you want to revert back to. The page will appear with the version indicated at the top of the page, just underneath the page title. Next, click "edit" at the top of the page. Add a note in the Summary box that you are reverting the page because of a troll, and then click "Save page".

After repeated defacings, an offender's IP address can be blocked by [[Special:Listadmins|several users]] who have admin rights. These admins pay careful attention to this page, and will [[Special:Ipblocklist|block]] IP addresses where/when appropriate.

== Known Offenders ==
If you see any suspicious, defamatory, or objectionable behavior by any individuals on our wiki, please add their IP address to the list following the same format as the example shown below. For our purposes, an "offense" is defined as the defacement of a single document of our wiki.

=== Example ===
{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/13/05 || {{troll|127.0.0.1}} || [[Main Page|Page Defaced]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=1 actual edit] || Description of dastardly deed
|}

'''The general format:'''<br>Use the <nowiki>{{troll}}</nowiki> template as shown below to input the user name, which will automatically create the appropriate links.
<div style="background:#F5F5F5;padding:8px;border:1px gray dashed"><tt>|-<br><nowiki>
| 12/13/05 || {{troll|127.0.0.1}} || [[Page Defaced]] [http://link_to_actual_edit] || Description</nowiki></tt></div>



== Offenders ==

''For a listing of older offenders, please see [[HRWiki:WikiTroll Archive|the archive]].''



{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#eeeeee
! Date !! width="250" | IP Address and Contributions !! Pages defaced !! Description
|-
| 12/04/05 || {{troll|Ex-troller}} || [[User:Ex-troller]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Ex-troller&oldid=210474] || Inappropriate user page; made comments about trolling before and planning to again. Also wrote a message saying, "this will probably get me banned, won't it?"
|-
| 12/11/05 || {{troll|PFloydPotter}} || [[Homestar Runner]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215378&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215378&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215376&diff=prev] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Homestar_Runner&oldid=215375&diff=prev] || Blanked portions of the page
|-
| 12/14/05 || {{troll|Ava}} || [[User talk:Net]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANet&diff=216758&oldid=210475] ||Deleted other users messages
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| 12/21/05 || {{troll|Ciberdude444}}, || [[Quote of the Week]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&diff=prev&oldid=219272] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Quote_of_the_Week&diff=next&oldid=219276] [[User:Salty]] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3ASalty&diff=221452&oldid=221399] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Salty&diff=next&oldid=221452] HRWiki:WikiTroll [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki%3AWikiTroll&diff=221465&oldid=221461] || Replaced text with random words/sentences. '''UPDATE:''' 12/24/05: Insulted [[User:Salty|Salty]] on his user page. Also vandalized this page. '''UPDATE:''' 1/2/06: Created 4 sockpuppet accounts.
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User:Ciberdude444

2006-01-16T12:38:58Z

Ciberdude444: /* Trendy Totebag thinks i should say this: */

User:Ciberdude444/sig

2006-01-13T00:29:01Z

Ciberdude444:

<span style="font-family:Comic sans ms; color:#008000;">
[[User:Ciberdude444|Ciber]][[user talk:Ciberdude444|Dude]]
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User talk:Emtarkanderundergunderson

2006-01-13T00:20:47Z

Ciberdude444:

== Welcome! ==
Welcome to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki!''' We're glad to have you as a member. If you need any help, feel free to ask anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members|welcoming committee]]. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]].

Here are some tips to get you started:
* If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents|help]] page.
* Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].
* Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[hRWiki:User space|user page]].
* If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick|The Stick]].
* If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum].
* Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' and have fun!

Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user page belongs to you. I hope this information is helpful, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.

Sincerely,<br />
{{User:The 386/sig}}, and "The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee" 00:11, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to the club! <small>i mean wiki</small>
[[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 00:20, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

User talk:It's dot com

2006-01-13T00:09:37Z

Ciberdude444: /* IP */

= <div style="background:#BE0023; color:#fff; width:98%; padding-bottom:0.3em; padding-top:0.3em; padding-left:2%"> Secret Song </div> =
==it's "Dot com"==
Hello. Thanks for letting me know about the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Talk:Strong_Bad_Email#Redirects discussion] regarding deleted redirects of the first two Strong Bad Emails. I was previously unaware of the accusations by Jay against me. By the way, may I call you IDC? It's an acronym of your username if you wouldn't mind me referring you by it. Thanks again. {{User:The Paper/sig}} 18:45, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:I don't think he was accusing you, just perhaps mistaken. I alerted you to the discussion because I figured it pertained to you and therefore you could tell us why you thought it was better not to have the redirects. But if it wasn't you, then, obviously, you can't. Ah, well. I think the redirects are going to go forward (if E.L. Cool or others are still up to it). As for a short form of my user name, when people ask what it is, I say: it's [[User:It's dot com|Dot com]]. 19:26, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

==Baseball fan!==

Hey Dot com! Are you a baseball fan?--[[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]]

:I should probably add this to my user page sooner or later, but I'm a ''huge'' fan of baseball, and Major League Baseball in particular, and more specifically the Texas Rangers Baseball Club. I've got my trusty Rangers ballcap on right now, as always. I've been to several games this year and plan on more. I don't live in the Dallas–Fort Worth area, otherwise I would have season tickets at Ameriquest Field. I make up for it by keeping track of the team on TV, radio, and at mlb.com using Gameday, Gameday Audio, and MLB.TV. I mainly follow the AL (my second-favorite club is the Yankees), but I do like some NL teams: the Nationals, the Astros, the Mets, and (sorry) the Cubs, to name a few. Tonight, as it turns out, the Rangers topped the Orioles, 4–2, in Baltimore. Yay! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:32, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Cool! You're only the second user I've heard of that is a baseball fan (other than me, there are two I've heard of). If you're not a ''huge'' cub fan then you won't bother me--and if you're not drunk, I'll be fine.--[[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]]

:Not a huge Cub fan, but I do pull for them as the perennial underdogs, especially now that the Red Sox have won it all. Even being a Yankee fan, when Boston was able to overcome a 3–0 deficit, when in Game 4 all Rivera had to do was put out the side in the ninth... well, at that point I was pleased to see the BoSox finally rid themselves of that blasted curse! (I can't remember, who was it they beat in the World Series? ;) ) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:24, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Yeah. I know, the Cardinals lost. I went to game four of the World Series, I was sad *sniffle*. I remember there were lots of Red Sox fans around us. One guy was talking to his wife on the phone the whole time. When the Sox won, my dad asked this red sox fan next to us, "What will you do now? This is your whole Idenity." And the red sox fan said back, " What year is it 86 years from now?"
But the cubs haven't won the series since 1908!--[[User:bkmlb|bkmlb]]

== Fanstuff ==

Do you have an account on the HRFWiki to? -- [[User:Strong Lad|Strong]] [[User talk:Strong Lad|Lad]]

:Yes, I do, but I don't much use it. I reserved the same username as here on the knowledge base so that I'd have it if I ever wanted to comment on anything there, and also so no one could impersonate me (not like anybody ''would'', but you never know). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

What is it? -- [[User:Strong Lad|Strong]] [[User talk:Strong Lad|Lad]]

:The same as here: [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== User page ==

'''''AWESOME''''' user page Dot com! Where did you find that template thing?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 14:51, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks, BK! I spotted the code for the stuff at the top on a user page over at WikiCities, and then I just adapted it to my page. I also decided to update a few things, expand a few things, add some new sections, and make the format more readable. I'm glad you like it! I just changed it yesterday... what led you to notice it? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:40, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I don't know. I just look a recent changes alot and you're on there alot.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 17:21, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== How old are you??? ==

Well. How old are you??? (Pertmywert)
:Twenty-eight. Almost twenty-nine as of this writing. Why? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:15, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Just Wondering. {{User:Pertmywert/sig}}

== This is not Homestar Related But... ==

THEY CANCELD ARESSTED DEVLOPMENT! I just started watching it like a couple of weeks ago! and it was SWEET but oh well there is still DVD Collections. [[User:NOT Billy Bob Bob|NOT Billy Bob Bob]] 21:39, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

== Time zone ==

I've noticed you going around asking for a general idea of where people live so you can figure out when they're usually awake and whatnot, so I decided to head you off at the pass before you could ask me. I'm a Floridian, but I'm in the Central timezone part. (The Panhandle) - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:The Panhandle's in CST?! (Well at least part of it...) I'm in Michigan, and I'm still in EST (of course we're the furthest west in EST... strike that ''were'' the furthest west now that [http://www.mccsc.edu/time.html Indiana] may be joining us. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:05, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Well, I've found that around here, your time zone has very little bearing on when you edit the wiki. I like knowing where people are from because it's fun to realize that all the quirky little usernames can be traced to real people out there (who themselves are at least as quirky). As my user page says, I'm from Texas, so I'm in the Central time zone (I'm discounting the fact that the absolute western tip of the state (El Paso) is in the Mountain time zone). Thanks for letting me know where you're from! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:23, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:Hehe, cool! I once knew someone from El Paso ... a long time ago. Now, I'm curious -- have you by chance compiled some sort of table and/or computer generated map of the locations of all the wiki-pedians you have interviewed :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:18, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::Table, yes. Map, no. ...or at least, not yet. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:20, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

== Happy T ==

I love your Happy T user page (and the clever link to your regular page)! I love it so much I'm surely going to have to bite your style for <strike>Christmas</strike> <strike>Festivus</strike> <strike>Kwanhannukmas</strike> Decemberween. Keep on keepin' it on. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 06:44, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks! I've decided I'm going to make a message for all major holidays. You've reminded me, though, that it's time to take down the turkey decorations. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:46, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::In my elementary methods (music) class today we were discussing abortive attempts to recognize/celebrate everyone's heritages and December-vicinity holidays. I realized that, although I see the importance of connecting kids with their heritages, maybe it's more important that they learn about ''other'' heritages; once you make it a matter of "your music" or "your" holiday it gets personal. I mention all this because I came to the conclusion that in the interests of recognizing the celebration without necessarily personally owning it, I'm going to start wishing everybody a happy ''{blank}'' on every obscure and minor holiday I can find. Accordingly, happy Mauritanian ''and'' Albanian Independence Day(s). Oh wait, it's past midnight—happy Electronic Greetings Day. (I [http://www.holidays.net/dailys.htm kid you not]!) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 07:07, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I have long maintained that the solution to the problem is just to have everyone celebrate everything. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:14, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

= <div style="background:#BE0023; color:#fff; width:98%; padding-bottom:0.3em; padding-top:0.3em; padding-left:2%"> Oh Yeah Yeah </div> =
==Brilliance==

You sir, are quite a genius. I was trying to figure out a good way of keeping the two [[Inside Jokes]] lists the same. Your solution for its sister page, [[Running Gags]], is perfect. Therefore I copied it on Inside Jokes. Thank you very much, and keep up the good work. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:28, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks, TBird! Organizing Strong Bad Emails in different ways I can understand. But it just didn't make sense to have two lists with identical information organized the same way. We misinterpret "[[HRWiki:Once And Only Once|Once and Only Once]]" around here, but this was a clear case where it fit perfectly. Thanks for the compliment! And I will keep it up! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:07, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::I know, it was kinda a tricky thing. I suggested just making [[:Category:Running Gags]] the whole page, but Tom said they weren't meant for that. I never thought of just making the page link to the list, instead of being the list. Thanks for thinking of it. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:17, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Man, you're the man! ==

How can you not be a sysop? You are one great user. When I read others' talk pages, you are alweys there to halp and give advise. Your edits and comments are alweys constructive and truthful. Your are the awesomest thing ever. Would you write a song about me? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:23, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Sorry for not replying sooner (and I don't mean because the database was locked), but things were already in the works (see the thread two down from here), just not yet official. It's been a while since I wrote a song (I've written a few, but it was always for a class), but maybe I'll see what I can do. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:18, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Manual of style! ==

Dot com, If I were British, I'd nominate you for a knighthood. I love it! I'll have to see if there's anything I can contribute to the new Manual of Style (although it looks like you've covered it pretty well yourself). You are my doge! [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 23:43, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
:I'm not British, either, so the most I can hope for is honorary membership in the [[Wikipedia:Order of the British Empire|Most Excellent Order of the British Empire]]. That would still be pretty sweet, though. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:53, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
::Ah yes, then you could be called "It's dot com, KBE" but not "Sir It's dot com". Just like Andre Previn. (Well, except he's called Andre Previn, KBE.) [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 08:21, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

= <div style="background:#BE0023; color:#fff; width:98%; padding-bottom:0.3em; padding-top:0.3em; padding-left:2%"> It's Like It Was Meant to Be </div> =
== Merry Birthday! ==

[[Image:fanstuff cake.jpg|left|thumb|170px|the only birthday cake I could find on such a short notice!]]I assume that from your [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User%3AIt%27s_dot_com&diff=182812&oldid=181207 edit] that on this day October 25, 2X years ago you were born!? Well, a happy birthday cake to you too! Congratulations! Next year you'll have to tell me what the big 3X feels like cuz I'm not that far behind ... (ok I'm slightly less than halfway there)... Congratz! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:57, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
::Happy T!, I mean happy birthday. {clears throats and prepares to sing} "This is your birthday song, it isn't very long! Hey!" {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:04, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Sweet, sweet Dot Com, Today is the day on your real (?) I.D.<br>
Now, get upstairs—unh! And fix me some new pages! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:09, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:Hehehe... Ah, you thought you could hide it from us with your ever-so-subtle edit coz you knew people'd make a big deal out of it, yeah? Lo, but we wiki users are too sharp for that. No edit escapes our eyes. Yea unto the dawning of a new era... or just another It's dot com birthday. Seriously, though. Happy birthday, and all that. Interesting... Next year, I'm assuming you'll be hitting 30. I'll be hitting 20 just before that. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::DorianGray wrote - "Next year, I'm assuming you'll be hitting 30." Sarcastic reply - yep that usually comes after 29.
::DorianGray wrote - "Lo, but we wiki users are too sharp for that." reply - no we just don't have a life, at least not one that others would understand.
:: Again, Happy T! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:30, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Hey, thanks every peoples! ''(Longer reply to follow later.)'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:28, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:Sweet, sweet Dot Com! Today is the day on your (real) ID! So get upstairs and make me some breakfast! ;) Seriously though, Happy Happy Birthday! {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:37, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

::I love the Happy Birthday bandwagon! Please allow me to hop on and do that thing where I tell you to have a good day and all that stuff. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 19:39, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Happy sweet someteen bash, It's dot com. By the way, is it going to be [[Wikipedia:Nick at Night|Nick at Night]] themed again? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:04, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

::Happy hundredth birthday, Dot Com! [/cliche] Need I remind you that you were born just a few days before Matt Chapman? You're ''so'' lucky. Keep on keepin' on! —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 20:05, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Happy birthday! :) {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 21:08, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Happy B. Er... I mean, Happy Birthday! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 21:12, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

:Happy birthday, Ben. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 21:36, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Happy birthday, buddy. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 00:10, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

:HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!! Er, Happy Birthday. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 00:20, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

:Happy very belated birthday its dot com! (Better late then never, I assume). {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 23:54, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

::Many belated combolations, Valerie. I hope you gamble all my...particles. <font size=1>Man, so cool!</font> - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

:::I can't beleive your birthday thingy is halfway down your user talk page now! Can you beleive how fast time flies!? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:29, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

== Sysop ==

Just letting you know, you have been given [[HRWiki:Administrators|sysop]] privileges. If you have any questions, never hesitate to ask. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:28, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:To JoeyDay, Tom, and all of you who have supported this, thank you from the bottom of my heart. I promise to fight for truth, justice, and the wiki way, and to always use my powers for good, and for awesome. Sincerely, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] — 17:23, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Congrats, Dot com, and thank you for all the work you put into this wiki. Whether it be STUFF, troll fighting, public relations, revising, rewriting, copyediting, collaborating, you always do a top-notch job. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:49, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::Dot com! Conga rats, yo. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 19:01, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::Please forgive me for the delay in these combolations. This is an honor you've deserved for quite some time now, glad to see you can finally block all of those trolls that irk us so. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 03:45, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::::Here here, congrats! You've finally been endowed with the tools you so desperately deserved. (I was on the chat channel when JoeyDay first awarded them their powers, but it doesn't hurt to congratulate twice) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:56, 12 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::::'''Combolations, Valerie'''! You'll no doubt do an outstanding job as sysop! {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 11:24, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Jay here. I see from the Recent Changes page that the two of you were named sysops at the Homestar Runner Wiki. Way to go! Join the elite ranks! I was actually thinking a while back that you two would make [good sysops], though I played no part in the actual decision. I'd congratulate you on the Wiki itself, but, well... ''(from [[User:Jay|Jay]] via email at 09:35, 10 Sep 2005 (UTC), sent while the wiki was locked)''
:::::::: To note, the above was also sent to BazookaJoe (who was named a sysop at the same time). I wasn't really expecting it to appear on this Wiki... But you guys both help out a lot around here, from refining STUFF to troll-fighting to whatever, so I do stand by what I said. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:29, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Bricka bracker firecracker sis boom bah! Dot com dot com rah rah rah! {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:51, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::I'm a little late to the party, but I still wanted to congratulate you on the recently-acquired sysop privileges... Ahem, "pri-vah-lah-gez". http://forum.hrwiki.org/images/smiles/sbgif.gif Mazal tov! {{User:The Paper/sig}} 23:58, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::::Congrats!!!{{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 04:04, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::::Way 2 go!!! You da bomb! {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 02:40, 20 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Once again, thanks to everyone who has left a note here! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== Admin Team ==

Congratulations, Dot com! I always knew you'd be on the admin team! We salute you. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 22:57, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:Woah, you're on the ranks with Tom and Stu now. Congrats. :) - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

::Ohhhh! So that's what he means! Congraturalatateytions!!! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:10, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, jeepers. It's dot com's just a-jumpin' up the ladder, eh? Awesome. Anyone will say you deserve it (and everyone probably will, sooner or later. You know how these things spread on talk pages). --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::::Yea, I could see that one coming. I've thought of your technological know how, diplomatic mannar, professionalism, and zeal for the wiki as top knotch bureaucratic quality for some time now. Congratulations man. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 01:20, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

= <div style="background:#BE0023; color:#fff; width:98%; padding-bottom:0.3em; padding-top:0.3em; padding-left:2%"> Everybody to the Limit </div> =
==Thank you from pertmywert==

Thankyou so much for all your help and ideas. I hope you can keep on being nice to me and I to you. Email me if you want. --<small>[[User:Pertmywert|Pertmywert]]</small>|<sub><big>[[User_Talk:Pertmywert|♥]] </big></sub> 02:32, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Pertmywert, to answer the question you asked earlier, I think you're a fine user. You've made several good contributions recently, including some necessary reverts. Also, in all seriousness, I appreciate your willingness to welcome new users. I think your ♥ is in the right place there. (Side note: there's a link in your welcome template that says "me" but actually points to JoeyDay. Perhaps change "me" to "JoeyDay".)<div style="text-indent:1.5em">Remember that not everybody stays at their computer every minute of every day, so sometimes patience is required when waiting for a response. And it's an unfortunate fact that many of the users go unnoticed who do a lot of little but important things. It's like an umpire in baseball, who nobody pays any attention to when everything is going fine, but people rant and shout when a call is blown.</div><div style="text-indent:1.5em">A couple of pointers: whenever you're describing your edits, try to avoid emotionally charged words like "useless", etc. It's sufficient just to say "reverted such-and-such to version by so-and-so". Even better, try to find the good parts of an edit see if you can reword them so they fit into the article. (See [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=lunch_special&curid=1117&diff=108570&oldid=108569&rcid=55453 this edit] for an example.)</div><div style="text-indent:1.5em">To sum up, keep up the good work learning, gaining experience, and making quality contributions.</div><div>Sincerely,<br />[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:20, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC)</div>

:P.S. ''{comment moved under image in subsection below}''

=== User Award ===

Congrats

You have won the favourite use award for this week (or month)

Here is your trophy

[[Image:fav user awards.PNG|thumb|none|100px]]

*Thank you for your FUA on 03:31, 10 Jul 2005 (UTC). I appreciate that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

===Fav User Award Page?===

Hey, It's dot com, is there a page that has the previous winners of the "Fav. User Award"? --[[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 22:10, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Do you mean the one I got from Pertmywert? If so, I dunno; that's his page. You might check the history [[User:Pertmywert/fua|here]]. Or you could [[User_talk:Pertmywert|ask him]]. Hope that helps. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:19, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Thank you. You are undoutably awesome. [[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 22:28, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Thanx from Strong Lad==

Thanks for the help with my user page -- [[User:Strong Lad|Strong Lad]]

:No probalo. My pleasure. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:29, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Thank you from Rogue Leader==
Thank you so moch for making the troll template. It is much easier to add trolls now. Thanks again! {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}
:Copy, Rogue Leader! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:08, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Thanx from Rebecca ==
I also wanted to thank you! Thanx for helping me with some of the questions that I asked on my talk page! --{{User:RJMT/sig}} 05:42, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Any time you need help, I'm happy to do so. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:08, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Thank You from bkmlb==

For helping me with my sig and being nice to me, you get a trophy http://jrsice.com/images/trophy.jpg <br>''sparkle sparkle''
--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 04:26, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:You're certainly welcome. Gotta look out for a fellow baseball fan. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:08, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==You deserve a Pizza Trophy!==
{| align="center"
|-
| [[Image:pizza_trophy_award.PNG|70px|"Congrats! Have a Pizza Trophy!"]]
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''I present this Pizza Trophy to [[User:It's_dot_com|It's dot com]] for his outstanding work and attention to detail on countless articles.

I've been meaning to award you for your tireless efforts here on the wiki. I saw the gift that bkmlb gave you and it reminded me what I had intended to award you. Hope you don't mind receiving two trophies in the same day! http://forum.hrwiki.org/images/smiles/emowink.gif {{User:The Paper/sig}} 05:52, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Thank you, The Paper! I appreciate it. Tireless efforts sure can be tiring sometimes, but it helps to have encouragement like that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:00, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Concur'd! Those wiki projects you're all the time doing are hawt! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 12:46, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::You know, I was thinking that you deserved a Pizza Trophy for the Stuff reform. Lo and behold, here it is. Good prize! :D {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 07:34, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::Thanks, Amanda. Have fun at Disney World! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:56, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::::I'm sure I will! (I'm not actually leaving until tomorrow, but I thought I'd put the message up in case I forgot in the rush of packing & everything.) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 18:00, 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Thanks from Payphone Ed==
"Homer no function beer well without." Thanks for fixing those things on the [[Linux Incompatibilities]] page. I think I need a nap or something. :3
--[[User:Payphone Ed|Payphone Ed]] 23:09, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Glad to help. I know the feeling... "No TV and no beer make ''It's dot com'' something something." "Go crazy?" "Don't mind if I do!" Actually, it's more like no TV and no ''Dr Pepper'', in my case. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:16, 14 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Thanks For Your Help ==

The fanstuff wiki appreciates it :). {{User:Rainer/sig}} 05:35, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
:Wow. You're fast. Do you have a bot helping you do that? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 11:46, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
::No, not a bot. We did have a bot (Valerie) working on it, but it wasn't very fast, in my opinion. So I decided to keep doing them manually as long as I could. Fortunately, I know a couple of shortcuts that allowed me knock them all out in a fraction of the time it would normally take. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:36, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

== Marzipan's Answering Machine X.0 ==
[[Image:GruntWorkAward.png|225px|right]]
Thanks for all your help eliminating redirects! {{User:Bill Martinson/sig}} 20:04, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
:Collaborative effort makes everything go faster! Yay! (And when I got started fixing the category, I just couldn't stop till it was done.) There was [[User:Bill_Martinson/Reference|one more page]] I wanted to fix, but I didn't, since it was your subpage and you were the one spearheading the project. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:11, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
:: Yeah, I figured I'd leave that one for very last. When that one's done, it means I'm ''done''. {{User:Bill Martinson/sig}} 20:42, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Agreed on the collaborative effort thing. :) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:15, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

= <div style="background:#BE0023; color:#fff; width:98%; padding-bottom:0.3em; padding-top:0.3em; padding-left:2%"> These Peoples Try to Fade Me </div> =
==Thundercolor==
Hey Dot com. I noticed you gave me a color pointer on my talk page, which I'm greatful for. But what I didn't get was your pick? Which is your favorite? Thanks, ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>?</font>]][[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>Thunderbird</font>]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>?</font>]]</tt>'' 03:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
:My favorite is the one that's the easiest to read: #CD9B1D — [[User:It's dot com|<font color=#CD9B1D>It's dot com</font>]]

::Oh, my bad. You were there. Sorry 'bout that. I think it was because of the two different styles of sig, or something. I dunno. I need more sleep... ''<tt>[[Special:Contributions/Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>?</font>]][[User:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>Thunderbird</font>]][[User talk:Thunderbird L17|<font color=gold>?</font>]]</tt>'' 14:43, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

:::No probalo. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

==That one guy==

Hey man, I put your link on my page. Change it if you don't like the way it's linked. Everything is up for discussion on my page, go ahead and talk all you want and encourage others to do so also. [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 02:58, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

Thanks for all your help, um... where can I talk with people again? -it's that annoying guy again!

:Well, it's late. A lot of people are probably going to bed soon. Most people like to talk when something happens, like the release of a new toon. So check back on Monday. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:41, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Yeah, It is late, isn't it. I'm surprised you, BazukaJoe, and some other guy, are still awake... I'm too tired to spell rite.

Listen, In the morn' discuss the stuff I gots on me' page, if I'm around...n' stuff. [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 04:49, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)Thechamp

:Sure. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:53, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Hey! It's dot com, are you awake? [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 15:16, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Anyone know how long your supposed to cook beef stu? [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 18:20, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about the edditing, I just neede to get your attention.
Can you tell me who usually goes on the forums? [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 18:24, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Hundreds of people. Many of them are on this wiki. Many of them aren't. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 18:51, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

How come no one is talking about my Idea that I had? I thought it was good, does no one else think so? [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 18:35, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:This isn't exactly the wiki where people care about story ideas. Fanstuff like that goes on the [http://fanstuff.hrwiki.org Fanstuff wiki]. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 18:51, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== Martin F. ==

Hey, Its Martin F. lol Thanks for the inspiration. You and I both have a similar experience with being introduced wih Homestar. You do a great job editing. See you around the Wiki! --[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 03:02, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks, Martin. See ya 'round! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:07, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Go Bearcats!==
Are you from missouri or the area? The Bearcats aren't well known outside the area..
--[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 05:17, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Actually, no, I'm not. I've only been to Missouri a handful of times. I confess I looked it up. Go google! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:22, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Kels ==
=== Signature ===

Hi, It's dot com. I need your help.. your the only one I really trust to have enough patients with me! Anydangways, could you help me figiure out how to make my signiture stand out? I notice that alot of people do that, but I have no clue how. [[User:Homestramy20|Homestramy20]] 06:45, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Oh, never mind. The Paper helped me {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 06:48, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Glad you got that worked out. I made a couple of code tweaks for you so that the date would show up correctly on the same line as the sig. Wish I could've helped you more, but I've gotta sleep ''sometime''. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:51, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)
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=== Thank you VERY MUCH ===

I want to say thank you for being concerned, the whole situation was awkward and strange, but in the end i'm glad to know that you cared. It's great to have such a great friend here on HRWiki. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 23:58, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
:Always. And should you need anything, don't hesitate to ask. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:39, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

== Fanstuff Wiki ==

Thank you for telling me. Man, I feel stupid right now... --[[User:thatkidsam|thatkidsam]] 19:23, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Don't feel dumb. Stuff like that happens to all of us. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:34, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Pronounced with an "RWiki" ==

This is a bit trivial, but an interesting fact. As you know, I'm all hung up on England, and even spent three weeks there. In response to your question 'wouldn't it be pronounced aitch-are-wiki?', the answer is 'no'. Not in England. Just the same way they pronounce the letter Z as 'zed', they also put an H sound in front of H, making it 'haitch' or something thereof. I'm not sure if this is of significance, but it's an interesting fun-fact nonetheless. I think so, anyway. But since the Wiki (and H*R itself) are American-based, your 'an HRWiki namespace' would technically be correct. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:What do I think of the English, huh? Oh, I'll tell you what I think of the English! ''{the rest of this post has been BANNED IN THE U.K.}'' — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

==Archives.org==

I wasn't sure where to ask this, but you seem to know alot. So what exactly is this archives.org that people keep retrieving treasures from? How does it really work, and would you be able to provide me with an answer to my question on [[Talk:some kinda robot]]? {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:50, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:I'm not really all that familiar with that, TBird. You might try the FAQ talk. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== From Nikolce Kocovski ==
=== Greetings ===
Hey there It's dot com, i got your message from my talk page thanks for the greeting.

I'm new to Homestar runner wiki, but i'm also a member of Wikipedia it self, so i know about this (~) to write my name, and how to upload images ETC.

Lets get to know each other a bit:

#How did you find me so quickly?
#whats your real name?
#whats your speciality in Hrwiki?
#are you a member of wikipedia? if so whats your user name?

hope so see your reply.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:05, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Well, Nikolce...
:#I saw you create your user page in the [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]].
:#Ben.
:#Read all about me on my [[User:It's dot com|user page]].
:#I edit Wikipedia as an anonymous user from time to time, but I'm not a member.
:Again, welcome to the wiki! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:11, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)

by the way it's dot com, when you reply, reply the message to my talk page, it's just easier to know i have s new message, but thats if you want to. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 04:45, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Actually, Nikolce, I'm a big believer in keeping threads in one place. But you're welcome to add me to your [[Special:Watchlist|watchlist]] if you want, at least until you get a reply. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:07, 30 Sep 2005 (UTC)
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=== Pledge Drive ===

Hey ther It's dot com, how have you been i myself have been doing great. Let me ask you something, what happens if Homestar runner wiki doesn't get the 2005 Fall Pledge Drive money? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 01:53, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:Hello, Nikolce. I'm just fine. Glad to hear you're doing well. I don't know the exact answer to your question. You should ask [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
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=== Meaning ===

Hey there it's dot com, how have you been, can i ask you something, what does this mean:Thank you! The Homestar Runner Wiki raised over $980 in its 2005 Fall Pledge Drive.
Unfortunately, we didn't reach our pledge drive goal. You're still welcome to make a donation.

We apologize, but due to circumstances beyond our control, new-user registration and anonymous editing have been disabled.
If you are the vandal responsible, please email mail_icon.giftom@hrwiki.org. Thank you.

Also whats your Top 10 Sb emails, and your botton 10?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:55, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

:I'll let It's dot com field the favorites, but I can answer your question about the header. I'm not sure which part of it you were asking about, but:
*The [[HRWiki:2005 Fall Pledge Drive|Pledge Drive]] was a time to encourage users to donate money voluntarily to help pay for the wiki's costs (explained in that link). It's a way of raising money that some organizations use over here, especially [http://www.npr.org public radio]. We didn't raise as much money as we had hoped; discussion about that is at [[HRWiki_talk:2005_Fall_Pledge_Drive#Looking_ahead]].
*We had to stop letting people register as users, or edit pages if they weren't users, because of an attack by a vandal who used [[HRWiki:NSMC vandal|over 1,000 usernames]] to vandalize pages.
*By the way, I'm not sure which internet browser you're using, but [http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ FireFox] has a [https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&category=Languages&numpg=10&id=68 plugin] that lets you click on a word to look it up in an online dictionary. I can imagine this being very helpful to people for whom English is not their first language; if there's an English-to-Macedonian online dictionary, you could even customize it to that! —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:07, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
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=== Hey there It's dot com ===

Nick here, how have you been, i've been doing great, can i ask you something, fo you happen to knoe some people called AbdiViklas, Heimstern Läufer, Sir strong bad, and bubsty?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:30, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

:Sure, I know them all. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
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=== Something in common ===

Greetings there it's dot com, how have you been, i've been doing great, i saw on your user page and we have something in common, i too like simpsons and family guy, but i have a couple of questions(is there another word for question) regarding this and other unrelated topics:

#don't you like the recent episodes of simpsons?
#don't you like a cartoon made by the simpsons called futurama?
#what have you been up to?
#do you know a user by the name of elvis?
#did you have a bulling problem in school?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 11:27, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

:My, Nikolce, what interesting questions you have.
:#I don't like the new ''Simpsons'' episodes. I haven't liked them since about the time Maude died and Barney got sober, around six years ago. When the show first aired, the episodes had a completely different feel. The plots were more straightforward, a lot of the humor was biting and satirical, and the characters had heart and soul. One of my favorite episodes (<span class="plainlinks">[http://snpp.com/episodes/7F19.html #7F19]</span>) is when Lisa's teacher thinks she has Lyme disease and a substitute teaches her class. I found it to be so moving that nearly fifteen years later, as I type this, I still get a little misty-eyed. Nowadays, however, the plots jump all over the place (if there even is a plot to speak of), and it's unusual for story elements introduced in the first act to figure into the last act at all. The humor has lost its edge and is more wacky and non-sequitur (like a bad imitation of ''Family Guy'') or just plain stupid. They seem to have run out of ideas and just rehash the same tired, unfunny running gags. The characters, which used to be more well-rounded, are one-dimensional shells of their former selves. I guess somewhere along the line the writers realized you can't have real character growth if your cast never ages. What saddens me most is that younger viewers, some of whom weren't even ''born'' during the early years, think that what they're churning out now is as good as it's ever been, and that's just not so. *sigh*
:#Yes, I like Matt Groening's other main creation, ''Futurama''. Being set in the future and largely in space means they can get away with more, and overall I appreciate at as a silly diversion kind of show. I'm not an avid fan or anything, but if I happen to catch an episode here or there on Cartoon Network, then I'll watch.
:#Well, besides work, getting ready for Christmas, and working on the wiki, I'd say not much.
:#No, I've never heard of a user by that name before today.
:#Heh, do you mean was I a bully, or was I bullied by other kids? Either way, the answer is no, not really. Not more than normal kid stuff. What makes you ask?
:[[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:27, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

If you go to my user page you'll see why i asked. Which is your favourite episode and which is your funniest episode? By the way, would you consider homestar runner to be a bit like simpsons: having lots of stuff from real life? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 02:02, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
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=== Trolls? ===

Hey ther It's dot com, how have you been this fine couple of days, i've been doing great anyway onto business:

i have a question for you, whats a troll?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 04:47, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:I hope It's dot com won't mind me answering the last part for him: In Scandinavian mythology, [[Wikipedia:Troll|trolls]] are monsters. On the internet, the word is used for people who try to harm a particular community instead of help it. The way ''we'' use it is well explained at [[HRWiki:Glossary#T]] and also [[HRWiki talk:Glossary#Miss Nomer 2005|this discussion]]. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 05:08, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
::And even better explained [[HRWiki:WikiTroll|here]]. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:14, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

wasn't a troll a monster in overall fantasy eg:lord of rings, warcraft, dungeons and dragons etc?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 07:37, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

:Yes, that's also true. They also appear in Harry Potter, and I have a quote on my user page that refers to that. But here on the Wiki, we use the term to refer to vandals who try to screw up the Wiki. Sometimes they add useless (and often offensive) messages to the pages, sometimes they delete material from the pages, sometimes they change the page titles to nonsense, sometimes they create useless pages. As good users, it's our job to fix whatever they screw up and report them to the sysops, because the sysops can block them from editing. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:41, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

::It looks like you guys have covered everything here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

==Alphabetizing Categories and Catchin' Trolls==
This seems like a good place to put stuff... I don't wanna clutter your talk by making new categories, that's why I keep piggybacking my messages. Ever thought of Archiving!? (gasp!) Hehe. Anyway on to ''buisness'':
*Ooooohhh! Right! So that's what it does. I thought it changed how the entry looked in the category list, and seeing no change, thought it did nothing. I had to remove it cuz it was autolinking to PseudoCharacters edit page, and I am sure I had created the link after I made the page. And I think I tried to purge... the hard way... Maybe? Anyway thanks for the fix!
*BTW check out my first troll person report!
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:10, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:    If a comment really is a continuation of an earlier thread, then go ahead and piggyback, but if it's a new thought, then it's perfectly fine to (and I prefer that you would) start a new thread. :) I reorganize my talk page from time to time and it helps me keep everything straight. As for archiving, I'm probably gonna put it off for at least a little bit longer. Only recently has this page exploded to the point that archiving would be necessary. If you want to see a page really in need of being split, look at [[User talk:Tom|Tom's talk page]].
:    As for the user who deleted things, well, he's not a troll. You may disagree with the things he deleted, but each example was something that is borderline. I even agree with a couple of them. Also, there's no reason to think that he saw the message left him in the edit summaries. Most anonymous users probably never look there. If you need to leave him a note, you should do so on his talk page.
:    Sorry for removing him from the troll list, because I can tell you're proud of it and that your heart is in the right place. Don't worry... there'll be plenty others. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:36, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah.... I was proud of it. You're quite observant! :). Bye troll edit :'( ... ;) To me they looked like random edits removing credible information. He was just over that side of the line (except for his first edit). Oh well. Next time! Catch ya later! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:36, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== ATTENTION: this is a joke, don't take it seriously ==

I thought you of all people would know that it's against the rules to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Sick_Day&curid=12730&diff=0&oldid=157606 tamper with other people's comments]. I'll let it slide this time, but try to be more careful in the future. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 15:46, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Well, at least I justified it by doing it for no good reason whatsoever. ;) ...Seriously (and I know you said don't take it seriously), you ''can'' fix others' formatting to a point, so long as you don't change the ''content'' of their comments. And, for purely aesthetic value, those color words really needed to be colorized. I would have gone with green for "greediest" (which of course is not a color word, just different from "greatest"), but it was already taken by "greenest." — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, I know... Just a little too bored this morning. I usually don't let it get the best of me, but what can I say. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 18:04, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::Likewise, I only replied (partly) seriously because I don't like comments to go unanswered, especially on my own talk page, and I couldn't think of what else to say. Also, if someone comes along and reads this later, I wanted to explain it so they'll have a clue as to what we were talking about. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:18, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::::Hey, it's my sig color! *is greediest* :p {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:10, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Hi from H*L! ==
Hallo! I was ''so'' glad that my new page was noticed by a Wiki legend like yourself... Anydangway, it's cool to be welcomed into the Wiki community. I seem to be gaining popularity among current and former music students. Keep on tranglin'. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 04:33, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Sorry for the late reply. I must have missed your comments. A ''legend''? Heh, I don't know about ''that'', but it's kind of you to say. And tranglin' is my middle name. Well, actually "dot" is, but if I ever changed my name, it might be to that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's tranglin' com]] 23:33, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

== Sandbox Talk ==

Since talking through Sandbox edits can get old, I figure I'd at least close the conversation here! :) Anyway thanks for the help making the edit easier, even if I was done by that time. At least I have a better idea of how play around with this more efficiently! :D --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:35, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Heh. Yeah, I was gonna follow along with what you were doing, but all that extra stuff kept getting in the way. Oh, well. Glad I could ''almost'' help. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

== Cool Cool User ==

Hey man i'm just saying you deserved the User Award thingy you got and i've herd my brother has been a jerk to you so i'm just here to say that he's dumb your really cool. But was it you that deleated my goof on the DVD? If it was why did you do it? Well please respond to this Bye.
:Wow this a random comment !?!? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:08, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
::Yes and no. This user (wrongly) thinks that one of the shots that makes up the artwork in the interior of the Strong Bad Email DVD 4 is from [[dullard]], not [[other days]]. See [[Talk:strongbad email.exe Disc Four]] for more info. {{User:The Chort/sig}} 20:15, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
:::And it wasn't I who removed that item in question, but <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=strongbad_email.exe_Disc_Four&diff=183033&oldid=183023 Homestar Coder]</span>. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:57, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

== Forum ==

Okay, I got the forum email, then I sent out the email that I was supposed to send out, so now what do I do? I really want to join the forum. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}
:Er, I'm not really that knowledgeable about the forum. I have an account there, but I've made like 5 posts in a year, and It's been a while since I activated the account. Perhaps you could post this in a more public place. Sorry. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:41, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

:It's alright. I just post a a new subject on the Main Page talk. {{User:H*R 700/sig}}

== Greetings, carpet bagger! ==

It is I, '''Sir Strong Bad!''' '''STOP'''

I bid you greetings from the year 1938! '''STOP'''

I'm rather new at this whole electronic communication system. '''STOP'''

So I am just making aquaintances. '''STOP'''

Farewell, you buffoon! '''STOP'''

'''Sir Strong Bad'''

<div style="font-family:monospace;background:#eee; padding:8px; border:1px dashed gray">DEAR SIR STRONG BAD STOP WELCOME HEREIN THUS TO OUR WIKI REGARDING THE HOMESTAR RUNNER STOP I BID YOU GOOD TIDINGS AND HOPE ALL YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO BE OF THE UTMOST CALIBER STOP NOW GET TO WORK YOU LOAF OR I SHALL BE FORCED TO GIVE YOU THE WHAT FOR STOP MOST SINCERELY [[User:It's dot com|IT'S DOT COM]] ON THIS THE SIXTEENTH DAY OF NOVEMBER IN THE YEAR TWO THOUSAND FIVE AT ONE HOUR AND FIFTY EIGHT MINUTES PAST THE MARK OF THE NEW DAY ALONG THE PRIME MERIDIAN</div>

Not often that you see prime meridian used meaningfully in a sentence. Good one! {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:45, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

= <div style="background:#BE0023; color:#fff; width:98%; padding-bottom:0.3em; padding-top:0.3em; padding-left:2%"> Somebody Told Me (Now I Believe Them) </div> =
==No swearing, huh?==
[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:record_book&oldid=120932 Talk:record book] Now, I'm trying real hard here to see what you're getting at, but I can't for the life of me spot ANY swearing in there. Care to point it out to me?
:Look [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:record_book&diff=120932&oldid=120930 more closely]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:21, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

What r you speekin aboot? Any who, Hay dot man? wana add your speechin to my talk payj? [[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 22:23, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Sorry for the edit ==

Ya that was stupid of me, I just wanted to see if anyone would notice it and change it. I promise nothing of the sort will happen again. [[User:Sox101|Sox101]]

:Oh, we've got eyes in the back of our heads! Seriously, thanks for apologizing. I trust you'll be more careful in the future. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:42, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Block ==

what does it take to ban someone? [[User:Lil Stiny|Lil Stiny]] 02:39, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:That depends. Why do you ask? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::i just fixed some vandalism and i was wondering [[User:Lil Stiny|Lil Stiny]] 02:42, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::Ah, I see. Well, here is our official [[HRWiki:Blocking Policy|blocking policy]]. Whenever you notice vandalism, leave a note on [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]]. Try to follow the format as best you can, but don't worry if you don't get it quite right (someone will fix it for you). The sysops check that page and block vandals and trolls listed there. Hope that helps. Oh, and I went ahead and took care of the guy you mentioned. Thanks for looking out for the wiki! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:55, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Geddup Noise ==

It's dot com, it's getting pretty ugly over here at [[geddup noise]]. There is a constant revert/add between whether the KOT says Booo or Dooo. Maybe someone should add a footnote about the transcript, like in [[boring (really)]]. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 01:36, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

==Encountering trolls==

Uh... I think i just found a troll. What do i do? --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:17, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:First things first... what did you find? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

::Oh wait, dorian gray deleted it, i think. It was on the user page [[User:Aussie Evil]]. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:20, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:::Oh good, thanks for blockin them. --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 21:25, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

::::Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Below are some general suggestions for anyone who might be faced with this issue in the future. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:40, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

'''If you find a troll, especially one in progress:'''
*Revert each affected page to the last good version (the instructions for reverting are at the top of [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]]).
*''Use the edit comment "reverting trolling".'' This will help the sysops notice something is wrong.
*Make an entry on [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]] for the troll. If no sysops are around at the time of the vandalism, they can check the list and make appropriate blocks later.
'''Some things to remember, especially in the face of a serious attack:'''
*Remain calm.
*Remain professional.
'''Some things ''not'' to do:'''
*Do not feed the trolls.
*That is, do not put anything in edit summaries that would encourage them to continue their attacks.
*Likewise, do not try to reason with them or taunt them on their talk pages.
Hope that helps! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:It does, thanks!!!! --{{User:Bubsty/sig}} 22:14, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Confounded ==

Hey Dot Com! What's up? I'm leaving you a message cuz I was noticing [[Special:Contributions/Vile.exe|this user's contributions]] and they seemed strange... at best. His messages seemed almost nonsensical, and one of the most [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Jenny&diff=prev&oldid=194149 recent posts], seemed somewhat inappropriate to me. And so, once again, I run to you for sound advice and a second opinion. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:37, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

:I actually noticed that particular edit. It seems, strange, at best. At worst, it could be labeled as harassment. It was right to come to Dot Com. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:41, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
::maybe he is related to Homesar (the character, if any user is name homesar, then I apologize) {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 21:43, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I discussed the matter with [[User:JoeyDay|JoeyDay]], and we decided to block him for four days and revert the edit. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:00, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Devil's advocate here, but shouldn't that type of be a warning? Say he's only 11 and just an annoying kid but given a warning would stop, but on the other hand, he comes back tomorrow and is blocked and therefore doesn't come back anymore. I think there should be some standard of the severity of punishment to refer to. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 22:04, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Personal attacks are not tolerated. It's as simple as that. Joey briefly mentioned perhaps just giving a warning, but after looking at the contribs agreed that a temporary block was in order. We've dealt with this guy's strangeness before. Thanks for asking questions, though. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:11, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::Thank you for straightening this out. I am glad to know I wasn't the only one who felt the post was inappropriate.--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:17, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::As an addendum, I realize that he might not realize he was being offensive, perhaps because he's too young or immature. But that's not what I care about. I care about keeping this wiki a place where someone doesn't have to worry about that kind of thing showing up on his or her talk page. If someone isn't old enough to use the wiki responsibly and sensitively, then perhaps that person should stick to reading pages. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::::::I don't know if this matters much, but the remarks that user made seem to stem from [[Talk:More_Fan_Costumes#Some_New_Hotness|this discussion]]. As you can see, AbdiViklas and I suggested that the discussion should stop, but some kept going on it. I wish there were a way to get people to stop doing this sort of thing. Not that it excuses the blocked user, though. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 08:29, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, I knew full well what he was referring to, which is why my actions were such that they were. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:22, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::Cool. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 06:56, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

== NSMC ==

Ben - what in the name of crap happened with this NSMC trollbot thing? I haven't been here in a while, I come back, some robot has tried to ruin everything...it's some ''Matrix'' type lunacy here, except instead of Keanu Reeves trying to save Zion, it's some hacker trying to save his own sense of worth! Hope you guys can triumph over the (repetitive) forces of evil. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 02:48, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:And this wiki was relatively fortunate to have had some sentries on duty at the time of the attack, so we weren't down for long. (Although, if that sitenotice is still up there, then we haven't fully recovered yet.) Other wikis I know of had nearly 100 percent of their pages (at least temporarily) erased. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:11, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::Hmmm - so it's some organized, or well-thought-out, anti-wiki measure? Seems like a techno-power trip to me. I'm glad we weren't too badly hurt, though. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 03:40, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

== More crappy stuff ==

Hooray to Abdi, but I'd still like to bring [[User_talk:Jibney#NSMC_TROLL_BOT|this]] to your attention. The precedent I've seen is to delete the section entirely but I am not the experienced on in these matters. Concerned, --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:16, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, my first thought was to simply delete his edit, but I thought I remembered something about preferring strike-throughs on talk pages. Plus the "aka Riley" part suggests that maybe they know each other in real life or from elsewhere. (But even if the Col. was making a good-natured in-joke, the wiki isn't the place for it.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 00:37, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
::My better judgment told me that it should be [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Jibney&diff=202524&oldid=202502 removed], and I did so accordingly, and moved your reply to [[User_talk:Colonel_homestar#Your_previous_comment|his talk page]]. If I have overstepped my bounds (Dot com, Tom, or any of the other admins) then you may revert my changes, please accept my apologies, and inform me of the proper procedure. I felt it would be best that the comment not be ther in order to not allow things to escalate. Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:42, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
:::That whole thread was weird. I don't think the user who was accused is technically capable of what he was accused of (unless he's deliberately trying to appear younger than he is). I personally don't have a problem with removing (rather than striking out) things that never should have been here in the first place, and this is probably a case where it's okay to just delteat it. Let me know if anything else develops on this matter. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:40, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Right; I didn't want to say ''that'' on his own talk page, though ("Actually, I don't think someone who can't spell or communicate coherently in writing could do that!"). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 16:16, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

== The M word ==

What's wrong with merde? Isn't it just "crap" in french? Is khara better? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 17:47, 13 December 2005 (UTC) (P.S.: You really need to archive your page. It takes too much to load.)
:Archive? What's that? And it may be "crap" in French, but it's also (and probably better known as) "s—". — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:55, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
::The situation is quite similar in German: there's a word that's pretty mild in that language, probably equivalent to the English "crap", but it's often translated as (and is a cognate of) the S-word. What's really interesting is that the and phrases that actually are offensive in German usually don't translate to anything offensive in English. For example, the extremely offensive phrase "Du hast einen Vogel!" translates to "You have a bird (i.e., in your head)!" Weird, eh? {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:19, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

= <div style="background:#BE0023; color:#fff; width:98%; padding-bottom:0.3em; padding-top:0.3em; padding-left:2%"> The System Is Down </div> =
==Technical help==
===How to add images===
Here's a quick rundown of how to add images:
#If you haven't already, read the [[HRWiki:Image_use_policy|image use policy]]. Note that the PNG format is preferred.
#Over in the toolbox on the left, click [[Special:Upload|Upload file]].
#(A) Browse to the file on your computer.<br>(B) Write a brief description in the summary area.<br>(C) Click the copyright checkbox.<br>(D) Click "Upload file".
#Place code on your page in the following format, usually at the very top of the page (although you can place it in other places):<br><code><nowiki>[[Image:IMAGE NAME|thumb and/or POSITION|SIZE|CAPTION]]</nowiki></code>

To make an [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Gallery|image gallery]], use the wollowing format:
:<code><nowiki><gallery></nowiki>
:Image:image1.png|caption 1
:Image:image2.png|caption 2
:Image:image3.png|caption 3
:<nowiki></gallery></nowiki></code>
Start each picture on a new line. You can use links and full wiki markup in the captions.

Click on these links here for a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Picture_tutorial|tutorial]] and more [[MetaWikipedia:Help:Images and other uploaded files|technical info]] and [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Extended_image_syntax|syntax info]]. HRWiki policy allows <s>one uploaded image</s> [[HRWiki:Personal images|two large personal images]] per user with no questions asked. For an example, I placed the following code at the top of your page: <code><nowiki>[[Image:cheatgold.PNG|thumb|300px|I've got a gold tooth. Wanna see it? Tough!]]</nowiki></code><br>That's all. Have fun! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:33, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
:Thanx a bunch for telling me how to add images and adding an image and all that crap. Love your page. [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]]
::Anytime, my friend. It's my pleasure. And thanks for your comments about my page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:56, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

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===How to revert a page===
*YO! I do like what you did to my gallery, but I'd like to revert it for the time being. I do want to change it to your suggestion in the future, though. But, um, how do you revert? [[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 02:56, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:It was more complicated than normal to revert your page since you had already made changes to it. Here are some basic instructions on how to revert:

<div style="margin-left:2em;padding:6px;border:1px dashed #666;background:#F5F5F5">
:'''To completely revert a page to a previous version:'''
#View the history of the page in question.
#Click on the time and date of the version to which you want to revert; this will bring up the page as it was.
#Click "edit" at the top of the old version; it will warn you that you're editing an out-of-date version.
#Type a comment in the summary, usually something like "reverted edit of so-and-so; changed to last version by what's her face".
#Click "Save page".</div>

<div style="margin-left:2em;padding:6px;border:1px dashed #666;background:#F5F5F5">
:'''To revert a page and keep some changes at the same time:'''
#View the history of the page in question.
#Determine what changes have been made since the version to which you want to revert.
#Copy the affected section to the clipboard. If there is more than one section, it may be necessary to do a normal revert (see above) and then make the changes again one at a time in later edits.
#In the page history, click on the time and date of the version to which you want to revert; this will bring up the page as it was.
#Click "edit" at the top of the old version; it will warn you that you're editing an out-of-date version.
#From the clipboard, paste in the new changes over the appropriate old section.
#Type a comment in the summary.
#Click "Show preview" to ensure that you pasted the new changes in correctly.
#Click "Save page".</div>

:In the section way above, I've included the syntax for the image gallery for whenever you want to go back to that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:48, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::Thanx. One more helpful thing you can either

::A. Strong Mad Bath
::B. Crisper Drawer
::C. Be Cheatachu72's homeslice
::[[User:Cheatachu72|Cheatachu72]] 03:17, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::I'll take (C). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:48, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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=== Where to link characters ===
I had a question. On the page for [[monster truck]], should "The Sad kids" and "The King of town" in the transcript be changed to include links to thier respective pages? FYI, the sentence that would be changed is "{The Sad Kids and the King of Town appear on screen respectively crossed out}". —[[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]]

:No. Characters are never linked in the transcript. Instead, they are listed at the top of the page in the order in which they appear. Also, whenever you post something on a talk page, type four tildes after it, like this: "<code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>". That will automatically sign your name and put a timestamp after it. It looks like this: — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:06, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks! [[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 01:08, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::No probalo! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:09, 24 Jul 2005 (UTC)

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=== How to make the vertical line to appear ===
How do you make this vertical line appear? | It's used in a lot of links in the wiki, [[Strong Bad Email|like this]], but if I want to use the line, I always have to copy it from somewhere else. Can you press certain keys to make it appear? [[User:The Chort|The Chort]] 14:11, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:It should be on your keyboard. Mine's above the enter key. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 14:30, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Hmm...let's see: | Hey, it worked! Thank you! You're my new best friend at this wiki! [[User:The Chort|The Chort]] 14:33, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:No probalo... {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 14:34, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::I'm glad I could bring you two closer together. I have nothing useful to say here, but since this is my talk page, I feel compelled to comment. The character The Chort is speaking of is called the [[Wikipedia:vertical bar|vertical bar]], or pipe. It is used in wiki markup to create [[Wikipedia:Piped_link|piped links]], [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table tables], and other things. As Amanda (H*C) said, the key is usually located at the extreme right of the keyboard, just above the Enter (return) key, grouped with the [[Wikipedia:backslash|backslash]]. On some keyboard configurations, the key is on the top row, just to the left of the Backspace (in this case the Enter key is about double its customary size and the Backspace is about half its normal size). To type a vertical bar, you must hold the Shift key. Well, I hope you enjoyed my short essay. I now return you to the wiki. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:46, 16 Aug 2005 (UTC)

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=== Blockquote ===

How do you make that "blockquote" (i'm not sure what it is called but thats what it said in editing) where it shows what Strong Bad wrote on his computer on the transcripts? Is there a way to do it in HTML or just plain text? I'm just curious, because I think it will be so cool if I write my internet blogs like that.

Thanks again and again. You are the one user that I always go to for help! THANKS!--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 19:22, 18 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Sorry for the delay in responding. I might suggest that you would get a faster reply by posting questions to the [[HRWiki_talk:FAQ|FAQ talk page]]. Anyway, it's possible to recreate the blockquote style outside the wiki, but you need to know some CSS and where to find it. First of all, the HTML (<nowiki><blockquote> ...blah blah <br/> ... </blockquote></nowiki>) is the same as the code you get when you press "edit", so you could just copy one of those to practice. What you need then is the various definitions for "email" found in [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]] (and possibly other CSS files... check the source code of a wiki page to see what they are). Also, you would need the image of Strong Bad's face copied and saved to your server. It sounds kinda coplicated, but I hope this helps. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:55, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

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===Super-plain link===

Is there any way to link something, but keep it just a regular black color, without underlining or anything? perhaps some kind of color tags or a 'no underline' tag before and after? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 19:42, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Sure. One of the words in this sentence [[Blue Laser minion|<span style="color:black;text-decoration:none;">is</span>]] a link to a page. If you wanted to be really sneaky, I think you could even force it not to show the "hand pointing" cursor that is usually displayed when you're over a link. Out of curiosity, what makes you ask? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:58, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Hmmm... The link is still underlined. And It's not that I want it sneaky, I still want the hand to pop up. I just want uniformity. Is there any way to get rid of the underline? Then I'll let you know why. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 20:04, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::I will have to do more research. I don't know why the text-decoration property isn't being correctly displayed by your browser. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:28, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

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===Edit comments===
How does one make editing comments? -[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 21:43, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Click "edit" at the right over there → . Then look just below the editing window. See where it says "Summary"? Type something in that box. That's how you leave an edit comment. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

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=== IRC channel ===

How ... do you join it? This little experience has made me like this wiki, more, and now I want to join the chat channel. HOW?!?! {{User:H*R 700/sig}}
:There are several ways, but the easiest way is to go to [http://chat.hrwiki.org chat.hrwiki.org] and follow the instructions there. See also [[HRWiki:IRC channel]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:56, 7 Oct 2005 (UTC)

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=== Help creating welcome template? ===
I'm kinda embarrassing, since this is the sort of thing that seems like it ought to be easy to find an answer to—but it hasn't been. I want to start welcoming folks formally, and thought it would be nice to make an adapted welcome message of my own. I know doing this would involve creating a subpage in my userspace—but I have no idea how to go about that. Thanks! —[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 05:32, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Oooo! May I? (answer this one?) Making templates and new pages is really easy. So I hope I can explain well. First things first, new pages. All you need to do to create a page is to go to it and start editing it. Make sure you save the page, so it actually writes something down to create the page! Suppose you wanted to create a page called "strombalos" under your user space, then you'd go to [[User:notstrongorbad/strombalos]] (notice how it's in red now -- if you click on it now it'll take you straight to the edit page), and start adding information. It's that simple! You can even (from your user page) type the new URL yourself and start it that way. As for templates: all you need to do for the basic form is to put regular wiki code. There is more on templates that you can learn [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template here], cuz they have neat stuff like variables and the like. There is more general help [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Section here]. Now for your specific case, you want to make a welcome page for our guests. I won't go into detail here, but you must use the template format in a special way. Suppose you had a template [[User:notstrongorbad/welcome_template]] in that page. Then you inject the code: <code><nowiki>{{subst:User:notstrongorbad/welcome_template}}</nowiki></code> into the victims', er, guests page and hit submit. It will inject the code and replace the contents of the template in his page. To practice, you can always use the [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]]. Good luck! I hope this helps. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:57, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::And that's what I needed to know! DONK! Many thanks. —[[User:notstrongorbad|notstrongorbad]] 08:12, 8 Oct 2005 (UTC)

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=== E-mail this User ===

Hey, It's dot com. Just wondering what's up with the E-mail this User feature. Whenever you press the link, it says that you need to log in or enter a valid email address in your preferences. Any ideas what's wrong? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 02:09, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

:Have you entered a valid email address in your preferences? Have you confirmed it?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:19, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

:[Edit Conflict] You need to validate your email address using the link in your prefs. Also, if the person you're trying to email hasn't enabled the feature, you won't be able to send one. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:20, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

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=== Sig ===
Hey do you know how to get thoese awsom Signatures that people have -- Billy Bob Bob

:see the help section under Sig. that's where I learned. followed steps and you'll be all set {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 20:31, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

::Actually, start by typing four tildes (<code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>). That should do you for now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:55, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

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=== New Page ===

Hey do you know how to make a new article? I wan't to make one.

:You just have to insert the name of the page into two bracets like this:<nowiki>[[</nowiki>pagename<nowiki>]]</nowiki> Then, hit showpreview and the link should appear red. Click on it and edit away.--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 20:35, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

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=== Thermometer ===

Hey, do you know how to get one of those mood thermometer things for a user page? Because I want one. Well, bye. Please get back to me on this on my user page. -- [[user:NOT Billy Bob Bob|NOT Billy Bob Bob]] 01:05, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:Well, here's the code:
:<tt><nowiki>[[Image:</nowiki>Wikistress3D '''<span style="color:red">1</span>''' v3.jpg|thumb|right|'''<span style="color:red">150px</span>'''|'''<span style="color:red">My current stress level: not stressed</span>''']]</tt>
:Don't change anything except what's in red. See the red number 1 there? That controls the stress level. It can be 1, 2, 3, or 4. The 150px controls the size of the image, which you can adjust. Last, you can make the caption anything you want. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:33, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

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=== Help me, It's dot com, you're my only hope ===

Hey Dot com, I recentley made a [[Homestar Runner]] cursor that I was going to use on my talk page, but I dont know where to upload it! Please help! {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 01:34, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
:I don't know whether we can upload custom cursors. And if we can, I don't know where. But I'm not your only hope. ''(Note: Dot com changed the section title to what it is now because he thinks Star Wars is cool. DBK did not originally say that Dot com was his only hope.)'' Try asking at [[HRWiki talk:FAQ]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:43, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
::You read my mind with the Star Wars reference, I just didnt want to sound like a complete dork :-p {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 01:51, 17 November 2005 (UTC) P.S You might want to consider archiving your page, it takes forever to preview.
:::Archiving?!? No way, Lucy! Only big wusses and lesser wimps archive their pages. Besides, mine's not even as bad as [[User talk:Tom|some talk pages]] out there. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:57, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Ha ha I guess you right, oh and I found a [http://www.fileupyours.com/ website] to host my cursor. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 02:05, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
I need help again! Ahh Im so confused. I have the cursor [http://www.fileupyours.com/files/7565/homestarrunner%20cursor.ani here] but I dont know how to put it on my user page. The FAQ isnt helping either. Sorry to be bothering you. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 02:40, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
:Well, I'm still not sure that it's even possible to use that here. At least not and have everyone see it. But you need to post your question on the FAQ talk page so others will notice it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:44, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
::You could try talking to [[User:The Paper|Teh Pape]]. He's got a special cursor on his Talk page, and I don't know how he did it. I don't know if you're able to do it with custom cursers though, or if he's got one of a few options or something. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:32, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I knew there were other users that had done this... yeah I checked out his source and he has the following code: <code><nowiki><div style="cursor:pointer;"></nowiki></code> ''Insert your regular wiki code here'' <code><nowiki></div></nowiki></code>. I know someone else has a crosshair in their page. I don't think you can upload your own, these are standard cursors as far as I know. It's possible that maybe the <code>cursor:</code> option may allow a url for an image but you'll have to do some research on that. <div style="cursor:pointer;">'''If you hover over this bold text you'll see it in action'''</div>--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:38, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
::::We should take this convo on to FAQ, not Dot coms talk page. There's already a convorsation started there. {{User:Dantheburgerking/sig}} 23:46, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::And for those keeping score at home, that conversation can be found [[HRWiki_talk:FAQ#Ive_got_this_cursor....|here]]. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:39, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

==Software glitches==
=== A telegramophonic thank you! ===

Salutations, Sir Dot Com! '''Stop''' Thank you for reccomending the user name change! '''Stop''' However, it appears that I always have new electronic messages even though none are present in the actual talk area. '''Stop''' Can you perhaps suggest a remedy? '''Stop''' Thanks again! '''Stop''' [[User:Sir Strong Bad|Sir Strong Bad]]

:I've heard of several people having this problem. I assume you've tried simply refreshing the page? And visiting your talk page ''by'' clicking the "new messages" link? If so, I'm guessing the next thing you'd hear from a lot of people is "clear your cache" (seems to be a popular cure-all). You could, of course, make an edit to the page yourself, which should clear it up. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 03:17, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

::AbdiViklas is usually right, but he's wrong in this case. I posted this on your talk page, but I'll put it here for anyone who's just passing by. When we upgraded to MediaWiki 1.5, it introduced a bug in the way the system handles the new messages indicator. Currently, the only way to get the message to go away is to click "unwatch" at the top of your page. This is necessary even if you yourself are the one who edits the page. We have done what we can to make sure the people who design the software are aware of the problem and we hope they will give us a patch to fix it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:26, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

:::A solution was found for this problem, and I applied it to our source code; the problem is now fixed. (See next section.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:22, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

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=== Tape-Leg Huh? ===

What's going on with [[User Talk:Tape-Leg]] and [[User Talk:Tape-Leg 2]]? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 00:33, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
:Hahaha! Let me take a guess at it: you applied the [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3805 3805] patch and are testing it... am I close? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:43, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
::You, sir, are exactly right. And it works! I'm debating whether to go around to all the threads and put "this has been fixed" in them. Maybe people will just notice. Once we isolated the cause, I knew the solution would be a simple one; I just needed someone more familiar with the software to point out where exactly to make the tweak. w00t! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:09, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Yup yup! That's awesome! That's one down, one to go! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:35, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

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=== IRC Error ===

Hey, It's dot com. Sorry to bug ya, but I suddenly have an error with IRC. While I was talking earlier, I accidentally hit some key(s) that opened my email inbox in the same screen. I hit back to get back to the chat, which wouldn't work. So I went back to the HRWiki page with the links to sign back in, and it kept erroring, not signing me in and saying that my name was already in use. The exact words of the error is:
<blockquote>Connecting... <br>
Logging in... <br>
-- *** Looking up your hostname... <br>
-- *** Found your hostname, welcome back <br>
-- *** Checking ident <br>
-- *** No identd (auth) response <br>
DorianGray Nickname is already in use. <br>
DorianGray Nickname is already in use. <br>
Error : Closing Link: 127.0.0.1 (Connection Timed Out) <br>
Disconnected from irc.freenode.net <br> </blockquote>
If you can log me out or something, I'd be much appreciative. I even signed off the internet, but that didn't fix it. Nor did trying to sign on to the fanstuff chat. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Sometimes you leave the room but the program thinks you didn't. Eventually the situation rectifies itself, and at this point in time it has. I think if you try again now it will work. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 04:38, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::If you're registered with nickserv, you can always log in with a different nickname and then user "/msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>" (I think that's the format, you can type "/msg nickserv help GHOST" for help). It'll kill your phantom account and then you can change your nickname with the /nick command (i.e. /nick DorianGray|all_fixed). --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:49, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Well, I dun even know what nickserv is, so there you go. And it's not yet corrected itself... Still coming with the same error. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow afternoon, when I wake up. Nice to know it's nothing really major, though, right? --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

::::Nickserv is a service that allows you to control your own nickname (and not let anyone else use it). Once you are able to log in, just type "/msg nickserv register <password>" (and make up a password of course) and it will register your nickname. Every time you log in just type "/msg nickserv identify <password>" and it will know it's you. Chat clients are good for this cuz they allow you to enter the password so that it can automatically identify you. Anyway once identified you can do all sorts of cool things with your nickname. As of right now, yeah your nickname's still logged in and hasn't timed out. Tommorrow it should, but you can always use a different name until tommorrow. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:57, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::'Kay. Just thought I'd tell people that it's all fixed now. Thanks for all the help. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

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=== My Watchlist ===

Hi Dot com, I'm just curious: I just noticed that for some reason I cannot add my talk page to my watch list? (Although my User page ''is'' on my watch list.) I'm curious to know, why is that? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:10, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:It's part of [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3805 this bug], which is the "new messages" bug. If you want, you should log in there and vote for that bug, so that they will give it priority to be fixed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:24, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
::Done! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:57, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Did I [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3805 miss] something? How does a bug go from "unresolved" to "it simply vanished"? or even "works for me" status? I was a little confused when I first read it, I still am, unless the person was referring to MediaWiki's [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.5#1.5.3 1.5.3] release. Unfortunately I couldn't find a detailed changelog without having to download the distro. I'll have to look at it later. Anyway I just wanted to let you know the change in status and ask about it. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:15, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Aye, Tom took care of it. Thanks [[User:Tom|Tom]]! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:43, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Okay, so after a ''second'' viewing under the tutelage of Pom Pom's keen eyes, it appears that the 3805 bug (which has now been fixed) is not related to the behavior of the watchlist at all. It seems that users now have no control over whether their talk page is on their watchlist or not. If someone sends you a message, your talk page is automatically watched. When you check it, it is automatically unwatched. I have no information on whether this is a separate bug or an intentional new feature. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:38, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

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=== Diff Problems ===

Is it just me or is the media wiki edit conflict fix thingy, actually [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=portrait&diff=211068&oldid=211067 being] [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=portrait&diff=next&oldid=211051 buggy]? Seems to me like certain things got overwritten during the frenzy. And I don't think our editors would've simply ignored edit conflict warnings and would have just haphazardly overwritten stuff. I ''[[User_talk:Stux#Bug_hut|did]]'' find a problem when editing the same page myself with two windows at once, but I thought it was just a problem when the same user did the edit. I fear I may be wrong. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:01, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

:I'd reason a guess that it's just users not being careful when they get an edit conflict warning. But you might want to direct your questions at the users invloved as to whether they actually got warnings or the edits just went through.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 05:26, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

::Although, Joshua made consecutive edits at one point, and stuff was lost between the two versions. Strange... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:35, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
:::I have [[User_talk:Joshua#A_bug_hunting_I_will_go...|posted]] my question to Joshua to see his take on this. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:39, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Hi guys. I just got a response back from Joshua, and it indeed seems that something is amiss:
::::<blockquote>
::::I don't recall making those changes, and I never got an edit conflict on "portrait". - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:29, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
::::</blockquote>
::::So... strange, huh? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:19, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::I was going through bugzilla and i think that [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1150 this] bug may be the one we're looking at or related. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:33, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

:::::I was reading the bug report and came to [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1150#c28 comment #28] (previously all other bug comments focused on the problem centering around the same user doing the changes with two windows), and i think this paragraph describes what may have happened here, (however I'd probably like to ask Joshua again if he did anything like this, which I doubt, so I still think we have new behavior to report to this bug):
:::::<blockquote>In other words, when I am editting, all my edits are made in reference to the version I opened for editting (call it version 1). Then while I am editting someone else makes some changes and saves as version 2. Now when I save the first time, it notices that someone else has made an edit and tries to merge them. If this succeeds, then we arrive at version 3A. Now, being dumb, I notice that I misspelled "celebration", so I hit the back button, quickly fix it and save again. This time the software notices version 3A, sees that I also made that edit and consequently, it cancels all edit conflicts. Since I used the back button, my edit is still based on version 1. So this time when it saves, the conflict with version 2 is ignored. Hence, whatever changes which were made in that version are dropped from the new version 3B.</blockquote>
:::::--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 22:37, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::Believe it or not, that explanation makes sense. I don't know whether it's right or how to fix it from a technical standpoint, but the lesson here is: never click "back" to move through the software when editing. Always click "edit" anew. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:46, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

:::::::It wouldn't be hard to have two people test this while on IRC. I'd be interested in seeing the results.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:13, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

::::::::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:It%27s_dot_com/Bug_1150_test&action=history Confirmed] and [http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1150#c32 reported]. Good work Stux.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 00:08, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

:::::::::Thanks! I also wanted to let you know I asked Joshua again about the steps he took in editing and this is the response i got:
:::::::::<blockquote>Hey! I wanted to ask you... yesterday when you were doing your edits, do you recall if at any moment you hit the back button to go back and fix edits? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:25, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::::::Umm... I'm not sure. I might have, but I usually don't. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 13:54, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::</blockquote>
:::::::::I hope this gets the ball rolling on the fixes. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:55, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

= <div style="background:#BE0023; color:#fff; width:98%; padding-bottom:0.3em; padding-top:0.3em; padding-left:2%"> Let's Get Started on Doing All Those Awesome Things I Suggested </div> =
==STUFF reform==
=== The note ===

Here's the note you requested. [[HRWiki:IRC_channel]]?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:30, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I for the instructions, I have this:

:''{Tom's code moved here: [[User:It's dot com/instructions code]]}''

You need to fix up Section II, since I have no idea what's going on there. (And quite possibily sections I and III as well.) You also might want to check out some of the bulleted points in the [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion#Things_to_consider|things to consider]] section for when you write up the instructions. Well, good luck.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:58, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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=== STUFF help ===
I would be glad to help you out Dot Com. I'm bored and I'm really digging what you are doing here. Keep up the good work. -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]]

:On an aside note, when the time comes will you need help turning all of the current STUFF'd facts to your format? If so lemmie know and I can help you out. When do you think the big change might occur? -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]]

::I'm shooting for the middle of this week. Maybe there won't be a new toon this week. That would help. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Looks like you're about ready to make this happen. I would also be willing to help you and Tony with the big change, if you so desire. You know, taking what's currently in STUFF and putting it on the new page. There's a lot of them there. Just let me know. --[[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] 03:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:I welcome any help I can get. I don't know the best way to go about it. I figure we'll have to temporarily close the STUFF page so that people aren't trying to edit it while we're converting it. Also, I want to open the format up for others to test. I'm trying to get that done tonight. I think the format is really easy to use, but I ''made'' it, so there could be problems I'm not seeing. I'll leave you a note on your talk page when I have more to report, which shouldn't be too long from now. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:48, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:: In case you didn't notice, I've discovered what is causing the problem in STUFF. Not external links in and of themselves (notice that "The Legend of Credits" has an external link.) It's the fact that there was an equal sign in one of the links. Try plugging a random equal sign into any fact (link or no) and see what happens. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:59, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

If you're looking for a response as to the new STUFF's simplicity, I would say it is pretty easy if you follow the directions. I do have a suggestion, though. For the how to revise page you have the entire template out for cutting and pasting, but the initial template setup has the optional things on parts of it. It might make it easier to take the optional notes and the false user votes off of that template so it's easy to cut and paste the entire thing. That's what I think anyway. Other than that, I think the new system is great. --[[User:Some HSR themed username|Some HSR themed username]] 19:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I went ahead an implemented everything, including Protecting all the templates and DELETING!! all the test pages I could think of. If there are others I missed, feel free to TBD them. I ended up erasing a lot of old Verdicted facts on the old STUFF page - dig through the history if you really feel you need them. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:42, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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===New STUFF Verdicts===
The new STUFF looks prooty good! One little quibble: it appears that the original posting dates were not included when the open STUFFs were ported. My real question is: how should a VERDICT'D STUFF look? -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 13:12, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

: The date thing was my fault. Anyway, I guess that a VERDICT should be another template or two, and should be put in place of the arguments and votes. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 17:02, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:: I fixed the dates. For verdicts, we can either move the items to the talk pages (like we do now), or they could be moved to a different subpage, like '''HRWIKI:STUFF Archive/pagename''', for example. If we use an archive subpage, we should put a reference link on the talk page with the fact in question and the verdict.<div style="text-indent:2em">As items close, they should definitely be ''moved'' somewhere. Otherwise, if down the line someone STUFFs something new from a page, all the old, closed facts will still be there. Once a template subpage is empty (all the facts have closed), the template subpage should be deleted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:13, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)</div>

The rest of this discussion has moved to [[HRWiki_talk:STUFF#Verdicts]].

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=== <3 ===
My ace in the hole. You rock. Good prize. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:15, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Well, thank you! <small>(But what specifically are you referring to? And what does "less than three" mean in this context?)</small> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:18, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::Haha, "less than three" in this context means, "Yay! Heart!" This is just a random compliment for you. You know, because you're always cool. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 06:25, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::Of course! Now I see. (I'm not a big emoticon user myself, so you'll have to forgive my ignorance here.) And thanks for the encouraging words! Great jaerb on the [[Biz Cas Fri 1]] transcript. It's always fun to help on those (especially since I rarely get the chance to do one — they're always done so quickly after a toon is released). Keep up the good troll fightin' recent patrollin' wiki gnomin' work! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:38, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I already congraturated you once, but way to go, again, STUFF guru! -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:45, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:As always, you are welcome. Just curious, what made you think to say that this time? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:46, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::Well, I was sitting in Recent Changes... and just looking at the two jillion STUFF edits you make every two jillion seconds. That's very cool. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:48, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::: Ha ha, it feels like that sometimes. The way I look at it, since I stirred up the waters by coming up with the format, I have an obligation to keep it as well-oiled as possible, and so I do a lot of maintenance on items, even if I don't actually participate in every vote. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:52, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::And well-oiled it is. -[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:57, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

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=== STUFF query ===
Hey It's dot com, I just noticed that one of bottom 10's [[HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/bottom_10#Is_the_ride_broken.3F|STUFF entries]] is not ever going to succeed due to the author's mistake. (The Knott's Berry Farm one) It is not true, and will not get a single acceptance vote. I just thought it might be best to close that one now and save everybody time. On that note, I have also noticed that you are the only one who ever closes STUFFed facts, and was wondering if you wanted a hand with that. I am willing to help you out if you want me to. <br>Forever Young, {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 20:17, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:To tell the truth, I don't mind doing it at all; it's fun. But others are of course welcome to do it (this is a wiki, after all); and certainly you should at least know ''how''. (It's not difficult, but it ''is'' involved. The instructions are [[HRWiki:STUFF/Verdict|here]].) I dunno, like I've said to BazookaJoe, since I made up the format, I feel responsible for making sure all the gears mesh and turn like they're supposed to. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:49, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:P.S. I took care of that item like you suggested.

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=== Anonymous STUFFing ===
Okay, it's one thing to say that Anonnies can't VOTE in STUFF facts. It's another entirely to say that they can't CREATE facts; I'd taken it for granted that they could. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:18, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:The rules state: "You may only edit arguments while logged in." I would think that extends to creating items. If a user cares enough about an item, he can log in to create it. If an item truly is important, a logged-in user has probably already made it anyway. As for this particular item, it was such a stretch that it would have been deleted outright from the page. If you truly feel, however, that it needs to go through the process, resubmit it anew (but I've got a thousand dollars I would bet as to how the verdict will end up). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:26, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:: Well, I don't disagree that it was a waste of space. I was more thinking about future reference—if someone actually adds a fact worth STUFFing. I suppose the only safeguards we had specified for unlogged users were votes and editing pre-existing arguments (it doesn't specifically say that unlogged users can't add facts or arguments) so I wanted clarification. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:44, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::I'll admit, I threw it out on a technicality. A technicality I would probably overlook if it had ''any'' merit at all. The last couple of days it seems like people are abusing the STUFF page, STUFFing the most trivial bits of nothing. I was trying to make an example of something that clearly deserved to get the ax, to try and nip this in the bud. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:52, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::: Fair enough. For example, I completely deleted a false "Fact" yesterday (regarding The Cheat's bendable arms never appearing before outside of Cheat Commandos, in spite of the fact that they'd been seen in [[caper]] and [[virus]]), so imagine my surprise today to find that it had been re-added (albeit prematurely Verdicted). Was it the same guy? How could multiple people make that mistake? And, as a result of your previous comments, I modified the "Add a toon/Add an item/Revise an item" instructions; now, all three say that you must be logged in. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 18:56, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::: "Early," not "premature." When several users find multiple instances that directly contradict an item, it is patently false and therefore not worth our time. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:59, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
:::::: Er, maybe my wording was a bit confusing, but I already knew that. I tend to refer to facts as "prematurely closed" when they're closed early no matter what the reason—even if I was the one who did it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:03, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)
::::::: Ah, I see. I took it in the sense of "before it should have been", but "before normal" works too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

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=== STUFF instructions for newcomers ===

Hey there, as per our discussion last week, I plan to start working on some more detailed STUFF instructions soon to help newcomers know when to STUFF. I was wondering where these instructions should go: if they belong on the [[HRWiki:STUFF/About|About]] page or if they should get their own page if if there's another place you think they belong. Thanks for your help. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 07:20, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
:I would work them up on their own subpage, like "User:Heimstern Läufer/temp" or something. Then we can either copy and paste the content onto an existing page, or we can make the subpage into a page in its own right, depending on how much you come up with and whether it would and should fit on a page we already have or stand alone. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:22, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
::Jawohl, Herr Hauptmann! Sounds good to me. I'll work on it soon. I'm hoping to keep them brief (I think it defeats the purpose if we overwhelm newbies with tons of information) but we'll see what I come up with. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:59, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Hey there, I wrote some guidelines. They're [[HRWiki:STUFF/About#STUFFing_vs._Deleting|here]]. If you get a chance to check them out, I'd be glad to hear what you think. Especially let me know if anything about them is just not true at all. Talk atcha later. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:59, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
::::I like those a lot. Now, where to put them... — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Glad you like them. They give just enough useful information without being overkill. But we do still need somewhere to put them. My thought is to add them to the About page for STUFF, alhtough I suppose they could instead get their own page with a link from the about page. Anyway, let me know what's best. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 18:13, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::I added them to the [[HRWiki:STUFF/About#STUFFing_vs._Deleting|About]] page (and gave you credit), and I tweaked the wording on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|index]]. What do you think? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:13, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Awexome. It looks great to me. Talk atcha later. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:31, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

==Admin maintenance==
===IP block issues===
Yo, Mr. Dot Com, might I ask why you keep blocking my IP address every time, and also mark me as a "repeat offender?" I asked nicely for you and the other sysops to fix the rpoblem of this, because it's getting extremely frustrating for me when I want to edit something and I can't because somebody with a similar IP addy is trolling the site. This is now the fifth time that something like this has happened, and the second consecutive time that it's been you who has blocked me. I know you're just trying to do your job, but it isn't fair to people who follow all the wiki rules to be blocked just because of idiotic trolls who like to delete pages and add cuss words to them. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 01:57, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:I apologize for any inconvenience, ISlayedTheKerrek. I will be happy to investigate your situation further, but I need some more information. What was the IP address that was blocked? When did you notice the problem? How do you connect to the Internet? I have reviewed the block log, and any blocks I have imposed for any real length are for what I consider serious infractions. There have been only three occasions when I have used the comment "repeat offender," only one of which was recent. In addition, the IPs fitting this description have had zero legitimate edits. Unfortunately, since this seems to be a recurring problem, it may not have a simple solution. There are some real jerks out there whose mission in life seems to be to spoil the fun for everybody else. We appreciate your patience and understanding as we try to sort this out. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::My IP address, although I don't know EXACTLY which one it is offhand, is in the 205 range. Note this as well...I am not editing from my computer at this exact moment, as you again have blocked me because of the reason I stated before. I hope you can find a way to fix it soon, because this is now time number 5. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 18:28, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::KerekSlayerDude: You can check your IP by going to [http://www.ipchicken.com IP Chicken]. Let us know the exact IP that is blocked and we'll see if we can get the block removed. Thanks. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 18:54, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::::Well, my current IP address according to IP Chicken is 152.163.101.7, which has changed in the last couple of days from the 205.whatever it was before. Right now, I'm able to edit from my computer, so all is good for now. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 14:51, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, Kerrek. If you have this problem in the future please let us know. Again, we're sorry about the inconvenience. We appreciate having you around and hate to see good productive members getting blocked an behalf of nasty trollers. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 16:18, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)
::::::Actually, he ''slayed'' the Kerrek. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
:::::::ISlayedTheKerrek, if you ever find yourself blocked from editing again, please simply email a sysop or [mailto:admin@hrwiki.org the Admins] a short note explaining the situation. Make sure you include the IP address that appears on the blocked notice. It is easy for a sysop to unblock you, you just need to supply us with the proper information and remain calm. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:34, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

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=== Block and unblock ===

Dot com, you blocked me then unblocked me.-24.24.226.13

:Yes. You keep messing with [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]], and it's hard to tell whether you're doing so maliciously. I suggest not doing that. The time that I blocked you, I thought you were blanking the page; then I realized those had recently been moved to an archive. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:10, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

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===Does the box have a troll in it? Or maybe a troll?===

Are you sure about [[Special:Contributions/24.151.40.232|24.151.40.232]]? Most of his/her edits seem inept, but not malicious. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:45, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
:Oops. I was blocking every IP in sight. I'll fix it. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:47, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

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=== Please add to trusted group ===

Hey Dot com, put me in the trusted group on the Fanstuff wiki. I'd like to start reverting some vandalised pages. Thanks. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 00:20, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
:Done'd. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

He can you uhm, make me trusted? {{User:Bassium!/sig}}
:Done. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

Can I please be trusted too? Sorry to bother you. - <sub>[[User_talk:Sahm|<font color=blue><i>talk</i></font>]]</sub> <b>[[User:Sahm|<font color=teal>Sahm</font>]]</b> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Sahm|<font color=turquoise><i>ribs</i></font>]]</sup> 05:23, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

:Oh and me? PLEASE? I beg of thee to give thy trusted status. {{User:Pertmywert/sig}} 06:58, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

::Done. Although, I'm about to lift the general block anyway. Oh, and keep your pants on. For real. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

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=== About the trusted group ===
Exactly what things can a user in the trusted group do over a regular user? -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 23:12, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:Currently nothing. There is no longer any such thing as the trusted group. We created it specifically to allow access until such time as all the malicious usernames could be blocked. Once they were all blocked, regular access was restored and the trusted group was dissolved. If you look in the list of users, the "trusted" label still appears next to various users because of the way the software stores it, but at present there is no mechanism for me to either remove the label from those who already have it or to add it to those who don't. If we ever need to re-enable the group, only then will any of this be imprortant again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:30, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::Can I figure out if I was in the "trusted group"? (I'm probably hoping a little too much here. :P) - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}

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=== User accounts ===
Can sysops create new accounts during the block? My brother, Ty, wanted one. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:Yes, I can, but I'll need some information from you. Meet me or one of the other sysops in the IRC channel. If I don't respond right away, try sending me a PM. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:08, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
::I sent you a forum PM. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::Okay, he's all set: [[User:Ekho]]. He should change his password and fill in an email address. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:07, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

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=== New Fanstuff User ===
[http://s13.invisionfree.com/Fanstuff/index.php?showuser=77 This user] joined the Fanstuff Wiki Forum and requests an account on the locked down Fanstuff Wiki. Do you think you could set him/her up? He/she wants the username ''GretaWinner1234''. Thanks. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 03:05, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
:You can do it. Just go to "Special:Userlogin" while already logged-in as a sysop, and it will give you an extra password field and a button to create a new user. You need to let GretaWinner1234 know via a PM (or some other non-public means) the temporary password that you set, and you should suggest that the password be changed as soon after his or her first login as possible. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:20, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
::I'm curious, how come the Homestar Runner Fanstuff Wiki Runner Forum Forum is hosted outside the hrwiki domain and not like, under fanforum.hrwiki.org? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:37, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
:::See [[HRWiki:Main_Page_Talk_Archive_5#External_Links|this discussion]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:51, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
::::That doesn't explain why it isn't official. I'm curious too. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 04:13, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Maybe not, but it's all the info I have. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::::::My guess is, it wouldn't be official unless Joey and Tom had full control of it. I wonder who manages it now. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:45, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
:Done with giving him/her an account. Thanks, It's dot com. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 04:12, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
::No probalo. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== WikiTroll ==

Hey, It's dot com. Just letting you know that you don't have to add to WikiTroll if the user has already been blocked. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:27, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Well, I started adding him, and then I got called away from my computer, and by the time I got back you had already blocked him. I ''did'' notice this, but since it's such a hassle to add somebody to the table (what with making a list of all their evil edits and whatnot) and since I had already gone to the trouble, I just hit "Save page" anyway. Plus, I figured if he did it again, there would already be a record there. (And yes, I know there's the blocked log.) So that's why. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:45, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Oh, I see. Sorry to bug you then. :) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:50, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::No probalo. Besides, I like getting comments. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:56, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::Okay! Bother bother bother bother bother bother bother! [http://www.potterpuppetpals.com] {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:25, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::Whoa, ''weeeeird''. Funny, though. I especially liked the part where they busted out their M-16s to dispatch [[Wikipedia:Lord Voldemort|You-Know-Who]]. At Barnes & Noble, you can reserve a place in line, which I did, and I'm in the first group, so I will be one of the first thirty to get a book tonight at midnight. My [[Special:Contributions/It's dot com|contribs]] may be way down for a couple of days. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:17, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::::I'm getting mine tomorrow, via Amazon. And yes, I know weird links. Far too many weird links... ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 21:22, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::::I'll miss you two while you are lost in that other realm of fantasy. Have fun reading, [[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]]

::::::::Hold down the fort for us, BazookaJoe. Actually, I know you will... You're, like, ''always'' here. You're doing an awesome job, man. (But seriously, don't forget to see what the sun looks like every now and then. ;) ) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

:::::::::I have been very bored this summer, and have had nothing to do but wiki. I'll be on a lot less once I start my job in a week or two. The Potter Puppet Pals are funny! —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:49, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)
[[Image:sbemail127.png|thumb|shiny things!]]

Um hi, [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]], I would like to point you to the [[Store]] page where if you check out the [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Store&action=history history] you will see that the user [[User:Hydro|Hydro]] has been trolling the page constantly. I have not yet seen his name on the [[HRWiki:WikiTroll|Troll Page]]. Also, I like [[virus|linking]], and [[long_pants|shiny]] things! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 14:08, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Hi Stux. If someone ever needs to be added to the troll list, then by all means do it. Don't even worry if you mess up the format... if you should encounter problems somebody will be along to fix it. I'll take a look at Hydro now. Thanks for bringing it to someone's (in this case, my) attention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:12, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

My apologies for bugging you again. I think i'm trying to upgrade my status from being Mr. Fix minor things to being Mr. Pain-in-the-behind Wannabe. What am I talking about? Basically, fact checking. To what extent should we do fact checking. I was checking [[Matt Chapman]]'s page [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Matt_Chapman&action=history history] and noticed that the last [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Matt_Chapman&diff=0&oldid=154227 change] added the misc fact: ''"*Can be seen as an audience member in one episode of '''[[IMDb:tt0163507|Whose Line Is It Anyway?]]'''"'' This is very general and my fingers are itching to revert it and leave a 'please provide evidence' note. But I haven't. Perhaps out of pity. Suggestions? (Do you have a fact-checking or fact adding set of guidelines even for admins?) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:31, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
:Well, I hate to interrupt somebody else's conversation, but I checked this myself. If you look at Matt's IMBD page, it lists him as an uncredited audience member near the bottom. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::I don't know about [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] cuz it's his message bored but I personally appreciate the interruption. Not to mention quick response! Wow, amazing, I didn't think they'd credit such minor things, but they did! Thanks [[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]! (and thank you [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] for letting me use your Talk page!) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:43, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== The single deuce...not really ==

About Autobiography and the whole single deuce thing, you were right. I froze the frame and the way SB's holding his hand corresponds to his chin. Good call! —[[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]]

:Thanks. Yeah, I guess Strong Bad's way more fond of ''double'' deuce action. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:45, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

== DVDs ==
===strongbad_email.exe vol. 4===
Hey, how's your stuff for the DVD coming? Are you still working on [[Puppets on the Road]]? Oh, and are you doing [[Sample of Style Too]]? Because if not, I think I am going to take a stab at rewriting its transcript today. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 13:35, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:I see that the Sample of Style Too main part and outtakes are both just about done. I didn't read the transcript closely... you say you're going to ''rewrite'' it? I was working on Puppets on the Road, but I was wiped out last night and didn't finish it. I'd still like to complete POTR, but if somebody beats me to it, I won't be upset. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:38, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::I wrote Sample of Style Too's transcript using snippets of [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005#Characer Animation Video|NYU Talk]]'s transcript. There were many differences between the two videos (see [[Talk:Sample of Style Too]]). I would love it if you could get Puppets on the Road up. It's funny and popular with fans and I'm sure they would love to read it. I don't mean to rush you, though. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 04:30, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::Nah, I just kinda got slammed with going out of town and then I actually had to go in to my job and do real work. Sometimes, I can goof off here, but not today. And tonight, I was in a softball game. And we won the game. And so we went and got real fruit smoothies. (Really.) I figured at some point someone would just go ahead and take POTR from me if I didn't get a chance to finish it. I'm not even at my home computer (where my DVD is and where I've done all the DVD stuff), or I'd do it now. So to sum up, if somebody else does it instead because I dragged my feet, that's cool; but otherwise, I can do it by later tomorrow. If ''you'' should do it, just drop me a note here so I won't worry. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:45, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::::I ''did'' finally have a chance to do this, in case anybody wondered how that story ended. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

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=== Everything Else vol. 1 ===

Do you already have it? I usually get H*R merchandise quickly - in fact, FedEx's website predicts its delivery today. However, the local FedEx guy himself is horribly slow and I don't have it yet. >_> --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:34, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:Oh yeah, man. I've got it. In fact, Homestar keeps telling me "Ooh, check me out; I'm quite a masterpiece. Now get back over there and choose a choice!" — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:37, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:: Sigh. After being the first one here to get Disc 4, looks like I got pre-empted on this one. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:38, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::: So, alas, I probably won't have it until Christmas, since my mom will want to get it for me then. Oh, the sacrifices I make for my mother... Oh, wait, I shouldn't even be ''talking'' about sacrifice on ''my'' part in the same sentence as I talk about my mother! [[User:Heimstern Läufer|Heimstern Läufer]] 03:17, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

==Speculation or no==
What was [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=lady...ing&diff=123490&oldid=123488 this] for? It's not merely speculation; it's a likely reference. --[[User:195.92.67.69|195.92.67.69]] 16:52, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Really? When an item is phrased using words like "could be" and "whether she actually did is debatable," it sure sounds like speculation to me. And you're not considering the fact that Marzipan breaks up with Homestar 50% of the time on her [[Marzipan#Character_Video_Transcript|character video]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:59, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Gah. I hate this wiki. Well, maybe not wiki, more like you and BazookaJoe seemingly cutting every edit I make. In fact, I'm going to stop editing this thing and just watch the cartoons in peace. --[[User:195.92.67.69|195.92.67.69]] 17:02, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::I'm sorry you feel that way. If you truly believe I or we are acting unilaterally, I will cheerfully STUFF the item(s) in question for you. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:13, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== <nowiki><br></nowiki> format ==

I was just wondering why you changed the <tt><br clear="all" /></tt> to <tt><br style="clear:both" /></tt> on [[Template:Strong Bad Email]]. Both are standards compliant ([http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A//www.hrwiki.org/index.php%3Ftitle%3DTemplate%3AStrong_Bad_Email%26oldid%3D128594], [http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A//www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Template%3AStrong_Bad_Email]) so I was just wondering what made you make the switch. It's not a problem or anything, I'm just curious. Thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:36, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:Well, earlier this week I read [http://forums.devshed.com/t204843/s.html this]: "IE generally does not seem to appreciate using br as a clearing agent. Too, the clear attribute is deprecated in html4 in favor of the style property." Since I figured we also preferred styles, I changed it when I noticed it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:47, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Okay, thanks.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:55, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==The Process==
Hey, '''Dot com''', it's [[User:Thesmokingmonkey|The Smoking Monkey]]. As you seem both knowledgeable and up front about how things get done, I thought I'd come to you. Recently, I've been doing the whole recent change patrolling bit, and have come up with the following questions:
*Do all edits done by anonymous users need to be reverted? I've encountered a few that are correct or beneficial.
*Conversely, if a registered user makes a questionable edit (say, for example, adding a goof or remark that is open to debate), what would I do? I've reverted a couple, and I need to make sure this is within the rules.

Thanks for any input you might have.

:Well, Smoking Monkey, anonymous users are more than welcome to contribute. I daresay ''everyone'' (with the exception of the handful of people who actually set up the wiki) started out as an anonymous user. They often have insight or experience that are invaluable to getting to the bottom of an article. The reason we keep such a close eye on people who aren't members is that it just happens that most of the edits that are redundant, obvious, or otherwise non-beneficial come from anonymous users. The vast majority of trolls are anonymous as well. So, to make a long story short, '''do not ''automatically'' revert anonymous edits.''' (Note: if we wanted, we could prevent anonymous editing with a simple setting; obviously, we have not chosen to do this.)

:If a logged in user makes a bad edit, it can be reverted just like an anonymous edit. '''Logged-in users get a little special treatment, however.''' First of all, it's polite to list a reason in the edit summary instead of simply rolling back the page. Second, if an edit is borderline, strongly consider starting a discussion on the relevant talk page instead of simply removing another user's work.

:I hope this helps. Don't hesitate to ask if you have further questions. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:02, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Understood. I don't want to be overzealous in reverting things - the last thing I want to do is step on toes and hurt feelings. But my "common sense" might not be so "common" to everyone. Trying to be careful as I go. -TSM

:::I just happened upon this discussion and figured I drop a word or two. My general rule of thumb is this: revert bad edits, keep good ones. Rewrite bad wording (there's *A LOT* of it). Have fun, be polite, but be bold! It's pretty simple, really! -- [[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 17:06, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::Thanks for the input! -- {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 17:13, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:::That's an excellent way to put it, Tom (I've always assumed your name is Tom... your user page has never said anything other than "Hello world!"). I'll probably steal your rule of thumb and not give you credit, just so you know. ;) To it I would add one thing: if you ever have legitimate doubt about whether an anonymous edit is good or bad, '''take the action that leads to ''more'' content.''' That is, if someone adds something but you're not sure, then just leave it. But if an anonny deletes something (especially something big) that you think has merit, put it back.
:::There's ''always'' more than one logged-in user looking at these pages, so it all usually gets straightened out in the end. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:19, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==[[:Template:sightingslist|New Template]]==

Thanks Dot Com, that color looks good. I'm just wondering about the centering. On the Email template (the one I modeled this one after), it's much larger, and fills the whole screen from side to side. This one doesn't, so on larger displays, such as mine, it's shifted to the left. Any idea how to center it? (And for the sizing, it's small on the Strong Bad Emails to save space. I don't think it'd be too bad to have medium font on this template, for easier reading and clicking). {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:53, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)<br>
'''EDIT:''' I think the centering thing could be something to do with 'width="100%"' {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 04:55, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:Er, I guess you haven't looked at the template again yet, because I already fixed the centering. All the other nav templates (SB email, answering machines, CD, DVD, etc.) use <nowiki><small></nowiki>, so I figured this one should, too. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:04, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Hmmm... For some reason it still seems askew on my browser. Oh well, I don't care much. Like so many things on a wiki, I'm sure it'll somehow get fixed later, by someone else. And sorry about the sizing thing, I guess I'm wrong on that. In any case, I'm going to bed. Here's hoping the trolls do too. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:08, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::Amen to that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== Character screenames ==

Um, Mr. Dot com, sir.... I was just wondering if it was article-worthy to write about the AIM screenames of all the characters. Just a thought.... -- [[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]]

:Let's have a brainstorm. What ''are'' all the screen names used by the characters? Just curious. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 01:26, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:I know of hooray4dolphins for Marzipan (although it's debateable that Strong Bad was telling the truth), cheatachu72 for The Cheat, and depressio111117 for Strong Sad. There's also gr8lookinggrrl from i she be. Although, in my opinion, these aren't really worthy of an article. -- [[user:mibluvr13|<span style="color: #6600FF">mibluvr13</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:mibluvr13|<span style="color: #9999FF">dígame</span>]]</sup> 01:30, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Perhaps it could be noted in a specific spot on the character pages of those that are known, since we don't know them all. By the way, you don't have to call me sir. "Mr. Dot com" is fine. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:29, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::Thank you, Mr. Dot com. I just felt it was noteworthy somewhere. --[[User:Alcnolien|Alcnolien]]

:::I was kidding about the mister part, too. You can call me Dot com if you want. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

==Free Country USA==

'''It's dot com''', it's your friendly neighborhood '''Smoking Monkey''' again. I just wanted to comment on the [[Free Country, USA]] thing earlier today, because I've made you my unofficial HRWiki mentor and seek your advice from time to time on Wiki matters.

In any case, what caught my attention was an anonymous user dumped, say, 50% more info on the Free Country article. I've noticed over the weeks that 90% of anonymous edits tend to be speculation, stating the obvious, or just plain wrong. Let's say the other 9% are helpful typo, spelling and grammar corrections. It's that 1% that leads to doubt. This guy/gal radically expanded a decent article, but I couldn't tel whether the expansion was worthy or not. I know I was previously advised to err on the side of expanded content, but I've seen even registered users get slammed for adding little bits of info to articles. This guy/gal added a lot, and when I first saw it, I balked. It seemed like speculation, so I reverted.

Then '''Mr. Bojangles''' re-reverted. I looked at it a second time - this time I saw disconnected thoughts that added only confusion - so I reverted ''again''.

Then '''you''' reverted my change, and I looked at it a third time. This time, I saw neither speculation nor confused thinking - only prose that needed refining.

I admit I've been in a bad mood recently, and have been, er, draconian in my enforcement of what I perceive is appropriate for the Wiki. I admit I was wrong reverting this article across the board.

Hopefully I made it up by actually adding to and trying to improve on the additions of the anonymous (and British) user - I got a little too caught up in making sure others play by the rules...

Faithfully patrolling the Wiki, {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 00:26, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Your characterization of anonymous edits is probably dead-on accurate (except when pages are first being created, which isn't that often, relatively speaking). If someone has something important to add, they usually take the step of registering first. Most of my edits were relatively minor until I registered. In fact, it was when I was trying to add something more substantial that I was encouraged to join.

:I appreciate that you consider me something of a mentor, and I take seriously my responsibility to you and others I help. I carefully consider any advice I give, and it is always my hope that each user's experience here is improved by my input. This can't always be the case when someone disagrees with me, but in cases like that I try to be as diplomatic as possible. As far as anonymous users go, I try to incorporate any part of their contributions that I can—anything—so that they will feel important and be comfortable enough to finally become full contributing members.

:In ''this'' specific case, you may notice that I didn't do a straight revert, but rather cleaned it up a bit before adding it back.

:If there's anything else I can help you with, you know I will. Besides, we 28-year-olds have to stick together. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:42, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I see you're taking your critical, incisive eye to my runway pet project ([[Free Country, USA]])- and it's about time. Of all the times I've proof-read, and internally debated the structure and the "facts" of the article, I knew that others would need to parse and improve on my own thoughts. And, speaking of my own thoughts, all I have to thank for my (irrational?) devotion to this article is some anonymous British kid I tried to censor.

::In any case, I think most of it holds up well.

::I really need to sleep,

::{{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 02:49, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::Sleep well, Dave. Irrational devotion to articles, by the way, can strangely be a good thing, and is therefore completely welcome around here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:19, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

''(For more on specific parts of the above article, see [[Talk:Free Country, USA]].)''

==Offline==
Hey It's dot com! I was wondering what you did with the 2005 updates page? Was it a ploy to annoy the troll? {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:08, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Hey Rogue. That troll is not a person; rather, it is some kind of bot that searches for the different sections on the page and adds links under each one. My reasoning was that if I removed all the sections, it would have nothing to do, and would quit. In the meantime, I put up a notice so that any regular user who was looking at the page would be aware of what was going on. I don't know whether my actions actually did anything, or whether it was just coincidence that the attack stopped (almost) at that point. Only further research will tell. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:14, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Another positive consequence: it may help the bot move on to less-visible pages. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 02:32, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:::It just happened again, and this time I think blanking the page actually did some good. The bot made one more attempt after I blanked it, but then it moved on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:27, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== WOW ==
Hey, '''Ben.''' I know you probably noticed, but we had a WOW-style vandal before (Homestar walker). But he...apologized? He seems a tad confused. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 18:01, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Hey, '''Dave.''' I did notice. In fact, I deleted all the bogus redirects I could find. I think I got them all. As for blocking him, I wasn't sure whether to do it. If blocking would lead to more vandalism but ''not'' blocking wouldn't, then I'm willing to leave well enough alone. I was actually seeking advice from Joey and/or Tom, but neither of them seems to be online right at the moment. Obviously, if Willy or whoever this gets so much as a toe out of line again, he'll get the indefinite block. What do you think? I haven't been able to get in touch with any of the other sysops, either, so he could yet be blocked by one of them and this discussion would be moot. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:12, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::'Tis rather curious. I can't help but feel we're being blackmailed by the devil. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 21:15, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:::Hmmm...since it was my first WOW-battling incident, I was bit hot afterwards, ''especially'' when he came out and said "sorry" and then "if you try to block me, I'll just do it again." It all seemed typically sophmoric to me - clearly he was having fun moving the same four pages over and over and over again, but then he lost interest and indicated he wanted to contribute. Essentially, he was malicious, but only so long as it saved him from being bored.

:::Your point is well-taken, though: if we can't actually block him because of the AOL loop-hole, then I guess it shouldn't be a problem if he continues behaving like a normal user. I'm not big on holding grudges, and if '''Venusy''' and '''bkmlb''' (the other two users caught up in the battle against him) don't have a problem with him staying on, then I don't have a problem.

:::That is, until he gets bored again! {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 10:56, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC) (Incidentally, the idea of a smoking monkey on wheels is pretty funny in and of itself)

::::As long as he doesn't do it again, I don't have a problem. And you're right, the concept of a smoking monkey on wheels is pretty funny. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 12:12, 24 September 2005 (BST)
::::'''EDIT:''' I shouldn't have used MS Paint to do [http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/smokingmonkeyonwheels.png this] in 5 minutes.
:::::Dude, that's hilarious! I wonder what kind of mileage he gets? {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}}11:35, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== How to become a sysop ==

I was wondering, how do you become a sysops?
-lil stiny

:I have actually written on this subject on several other pages. Below is a copy of [[User_talk:Homestar_Coder/MayAug2005#I_have_a_big_query.|this discussion]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:19, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

<blockquote><small>Hey AtHC, How do people become Administrators? I've been thinking about that... -Kinsey

:I don't want to presume to speak for Aurora, but I've written at length about this very subject on [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Balmung_of_Azure_Sky&oldid=96317#Welcome this page], if that helps. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:42, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::''Here is the relevant text from that page:''<blockquote>Becoming an admin, as they're also called, is a good goal to have, but it doesn't happen overnight. Basically, you start out at the bottom of the totem pole, and work your way up. Over time, people will begin to notice your edits; you'll want to make good ones. If you do, gradually a sense of trust will develop between you and the wiki community. In the meantime, fight [[HRWiki:WikiTroll|trolls]], add good [[stuff|fun facts]], [[Special:Recentchanges|monitor]] pages for bad edits, help out with the maintenance of the site, learn the ins and outs of the software. Undertake a worthwhile project (but ... it's best to get approval before doing so). Then, sometime in the future, the current admins will open the floor for nominations for new sysops, at which time another user can throw your name in the ring. Then, we'll all vote on you. They probably won't nominate new admins for a while, and when they do, maybe you'll be nominated, maybe not. Either way, keep on keepin' on making good edits and building up that trust. It's just that simple!</blockquote>

::I'm glad you posted that, It's dot com, because it's a good explanation! Definately monitor for edits, learn to recognize good and poor edits, and always be diplomatic in discussions. Undertaking worthwhile projects (with wiki-approval first) is a great way to contribute and be noticed. To all of this, I would add that you should think about why you want to become an administrator. If you want to be an administrator to have more power, that's the wrong reason. It's about responsibility, not power, and it sometimes involves doing unpleasant things. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 19:46, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)
</small></blockquote>
teehee, the entire time I was reading this I'm picturing It's dot com sitting at his compy/lappy dictating this message in the best strong bad impression he can make. The question was very similar to several of the sbemails and the answer was just as good except it didn't make fun of lil stiny (I'm not saying he should have, but that was the only difference) [[User:NFITC1|NFITC1]]
:No, I wouldn't make fun here. I just have already thought long about this question and felt that the previous discussion (especially including the reply by Homestar Coder) covered the subject well. Thus, it was practical to copy and paste. :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:34, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Senor Cardgage Mortgage ==

I checked those two Fast Forwards for you. They were indeed factual. However, they still don't qualify as Fun Facts in my book. The "Fun" part is seriously lacking on those two, in my opinion. [[User:ACupOfCoffee|ACupOfCoffee]] 21:18, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Right. It wasn't that I thought that they were untrue, just that they didn't really qualify as references. Thanks for checking on that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:20, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Pasta Salad a go-go ==

Hey, Ben. Thanks for, um, clarifying the tone of my voice for the whole Pasta Salad talk Page boondoggle. It's easy for me to forget no one around here (short of you) really has any idea who I am. Life's kinda throwing me a curveball right now, and as an artist, I tend to get irrational about my work (even if it's three sentences about Gron Mad eating elbow macaroni). I wasn't trying to be a jerk. Anyway, thanks as always for the classic Dot com level-headedness. — {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 22:28, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)
:Well, Dave, I just knew you wouldn't make an article—on whatever subject—without a positive reason, and certainly not to make a point. As far as I can tell, that's not your style. And I felt I needed to step up and say so, so I did. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:36, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== Reynold ==

Alright, I have to ask. As my first bold attempt at helping keep the peace in this particular Wiki, I remove a Wikipedia reference to pizza. Why is a link to such a common food necessary? [[User:Come back, chocolates!|Come back, chocolates!]]
:Where is the harm in including it? The article is interesting, and you might be surprised how much pizza differs in other countries from the U.S. version. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:52, 29 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::No harm per se, it was simply my motivation to prevent the building a precedent of Wiki-linking every common object, regardless of its history. But I digress. -[[User:Come back, chocolates!|Come back, chocolates!]]

== Hyphen?! ==
(in regards to Freshley's) I know it's an apostrophe; I have no idea what I was thinking when I made the edit. Just so you know that I'm not completely stupid. :-) The reason I reverted the edit, though, was even though it's correct, the display of the link is really funky, and for readability, it probably needs to be without the apostrophe, correct or not. [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 20:19, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
:I'm not sure what you mean by really funky. I just looked at it again, and it looks normal to me. Either way, it's correct with the apostrophe, so it probably needs to be with it, funky or not. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:22, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
::At least for me, the external link box doesn't show up, unlike next to Mrs. Freshley's and the like, so there's several spaces between the word Shaw's and the text that follows it (such as Shaw's____and then text). But yeah, it does need it. That's why I had added it in the first place, but then I figured that it wasn't in the word because the link looked weird, so I took it back out. So it turns out that an edit of mine that I reverted was reverted back. Or something. My head hurts. — [[User:Spell4yr|Spell4yr]] 05:07, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

==Regarding the Article of the Day==

Thanks for the image revert. I probably should have discussed the choice of image earlier, but hindsight is 50/50. I didn't exactly have my heart set on any one image, since the one I came up with originally was a different one altogether. I could see an edit war happening with this feature, what with like 50 images to choose from. I just wanted something easy to make out and understandable, that embodied the early Fanstuff, particularly drawings (since they don't usually feature those anymore). But the Matrix parody is a fun, clever, simple pic, and one that TBC also meantioned in the FAQ. Thanks for keeping watch. ;) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:15, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
:I've protected images on the main page before. Are we also supposed to protect featured ''articles'' as well? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:31, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
::If it's changed again, we could just protect the article. I don't think usually, since alot of users link stuff, fix wording, ect. Perhaps something similar in the future might warrent a featured article overview protect. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 03:47, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

== 2D Boombox ==

I just rewatch Sibbie. It looks like the radio gets thinner which would make it a goof as it loses normal aspect ratio but I wouldn't care so much if this doesn't make it. {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:34, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

== Oz ==

Look, it's clear you don't support the Oz reference. Let me at least put it where I intended it to be, and quit moving it. It's about to die anyway, let it rest where it belongs. There is no need to reply. [[User:B|B]] 04:32, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:Too late. It's dead. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:33, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::Well great, and now because of your tampering with it, we have an archive that carries your agenda rather than the question being discussed. Hope you enjoyed the power trip. [[User:B|B]] 04:43, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Oh, spare me the theatrics. As explained on the page, the throwaway line in different down didn't even compare to the visuals New Boots provided. If anything, that's where the reference would be. But, like I said there, it's not a reference in the first place. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:50, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Speaking of theatrics, now you've blanked your page? I don't see why you would leave just because we disagree on which toon this item doesn't refer to. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:55, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Okay, play nice, guys. It's understandable you'd be frustrated, B, since I agree that different town should have been the only toon in discussion. But on the other hand, it stood even less chance than New Boots, so the change did you a favor of sorts. But either way, I find it's best to separate yourself from pages/edits you create; if they wind up going down, it's not a personal thing. (I say that, but yeah, I still find it hard.) —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 04:57, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
::::::While that item was open, I thought about trying to tie the two pages in together, but after the voting got going, I realized it wasn't worth the effort. I maintain that if the reference were true, both toons would be independent references to the Oz episode, and New Boots—not different town—would have the strongest connection to it. Therefore, B, I resent your saying that I was going on a power trip, since I sincerely believe my actions to be in line with what was best for the wiki. Those who know me well know that I take great pains to ''avoid'' the mere hint of such a so-called trip. I do apologize, however, if my actions seemed in haste to you. That was not my intention. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:18, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::In the interest of fairness to all points of view, I have amended the page with a link to ''both'' toons, and I will be including it in the main archive under both names and on both talk pages. I hope this compromise is satisfactory. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:47, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::::: The issue is that I have decided that I have better things to do than to remain attached to the seedy underbelly that is the wiki disussion. I will continue to visit, as the site is ''really cool''. I won't make contributions unless no one else can provide what I have to offer, or if there is a blatant error on a page. I may continue to play on the sound effects page. Other than that, I have nothing else to add.
:::::::: The amendment is acceptable. The beef was not with what was the better referene. My beef was that it kept getting moved and altered. And without comment. The whole event was a display in discourteousness (on both parts, mine especially). I don't do much of this, and I worked hard trying to get that right. I appreciate the re-consideration.
:::::::: end of line. [[User:B|B]] 05:55, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

==Alphabetical order==

Here's a puzzle for anybody concerned. It's about [[Inside Jokes]] and [[Running Gags]]. Try going to each page, and clicking on the 'List of ______'. It seems that the article Inside Jokes, which is also in the category, is listed under 'L', as it should be. However, Running Gags is listed under '*'. Anybody know why this would happen? Is this happening to everyone? I dunno, it just seems kinda weird. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 05:39, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:Someone put an asterisk in the link so that it would be listed first in the list. I made the other one match (although the dollar sign is coming before the asterisk, which probably should be fixed, but I'm not gonna do it now). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:45, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
::I won't do anything then -- I was about to make a similar change just now. I was actually thinking of doing it the other way: using the alphabet entries, but of course this makes more sense. Anyway, here's Dot com's [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Inside_Jokes&diff=190040&oldid=162318 change] so you can see what he did. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:48, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Huh. Go figure. You learn something new every day, I guess (although that little nugget is pretty useless). Thanks. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 06:01, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh, of course. Fixing $11.01 turned out to be as easy as fixing Inside Jokes. Good work, Elad. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:04, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
:::::Thanks. Just as I was going to reply my computer froze. Now I'm replying from school (See my IRC nick :P). {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 06:20, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

==The system is down, yo==
Hey Dot com, you probably already know this/don't care, but earlier today the wiki wasent working at all. I'm no computer expert, but I ''do'' know that something was wrong with the wiki. Because all the pages on the wiki would refuse to load, but other sites loaded just fine. I was just wondering if this had anything to do with this site. Sorry for your time, {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:41, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:Well, I hear someone tried to cram-a-lam a Swiss Cake Roll into the disk drive. See [[Talk:Main_Page#What_Happened?]] for more information. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:45, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
::Oh, my bad. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:48, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
:::No probalo. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== source code ==

First off, are you sick or somthing (I ask because of the whole Strong Sad picture)? Can you or someone else let the code be seen for [[Special:Statistics]]. I'd like to maybe use one of the {{ }} type item for my user page. Also is there any place that lists all of the things like this and what each one displays. Is there one the will return the number of edits that I have made? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 18:22, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

:Well, here is the code:

<pre>There are '''$1''' total pages in the database.
This includes "talk" pages, pages about {{SITENAME}}, minimal "stub"
pages, redirects, and others that probably don't qualify as content pages.
Excluding those, there are '''$2''' pages that are probably legitimate
content pages.

There have been a total of '''$3''' page views, and '''$4''' page edits
since the wiki was set up.
That comes to '''$5''' average edits per page, and '''$6''' views per edit.</pre>

:As you can see, it uses PHP variables instead of MediaWiki variables (except for <nowiki>{{sitename}}</nowiki>), so it wouldn't work on your page without editing the source code for the project. But there are ways to do interesting things with your page. A lot of Wikipedia users have developed custom tools like this. Unfortunately, I don't know where to tell you to look for them or even whether they would work on our wiki. I seem to recall Lapper experimenting with something like this, but for one reason or another he couldn't get it to work. Sorry I wasn't much help here. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:31, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::And, no, I'm not sick. That's for a friend. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:32, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::I took out the <nowiki><pre></pre></nowiki> syntax and did show preview to see what it would look like, and nothing happened. Does it only work on that one page that i mentioned above? {{User:Invisible_Robot_Fish/sig}} 19:31, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Right. Those variables are filled in by the code that generates that particular page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:33, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

:::::The MediaWiki code is [http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/ freely available]. If you want the code behind [[Special:Statistics]], it's [http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/phase3/includes/SpecialStatistics.php?rev=1.28&view=auto there].[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:36, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

== Absent minded does not begin to describe it... ==

Oh crap! Did I just do [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=HRWiki:STUFF/Archive/space_program&diff=205931&oldid=205415 that!?] Man I should know better! I was looking at it and went back and forth through things and at some point I forgot I was looking at the archives... grr! I was thinking about reverting both votes, but um, but I guess you left them both to clarify things? I'm starting to think (at least due to my absent-mindedness) that having different background colors for ''archived'' stuff would be a good idea to provide a visual cue as to what's archived and what's not. But I see they use the same templates and there's no way that I can think of right away to um... differentiate things without having to retype things. Maybe a big red border to indicate these are the archives? I should be doing my homework right now. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:07, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
:I left your vote and added one of my own, because it solved a technicality: namely, that version of the item was declined even though it showed more accept votes. By evening out the vote, there are no longer two revisions with the accepts in the lead. What really happened is that those two items were merged and the revision that was winning overwhelmingly was accepted. That whole mess was kind of confusing. As for the archive, I considered making it different colors, and then decided it wasn't worth the trouble. In the five months since we've been using the new format, we've only had two, maybe three, instances of people voting in the archives. Usually they see the big gold banner at the top that says not to vote there. ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:31, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
::Gee. Rub it in why don't ya? ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 01:18, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

== Copyrighted Images ==

Well, now that we're getting rid of all those images from the pages, they should be deleted, yes? Can you do that yourself, or should I find 'em all and put a <nowiki>{{delete|removed for copyright reasons}}</nowiki> tag on all of them for you? I ask coz certainly they don't need the tag to be deleted, but it might help you (or any other sysop) find them all in a jiffy. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:Two things: is it possible that there might be some caveat of fair use for these images? I mean these pictures have been displayed at the H*R site and we have had a habit of displaying anything and everything from the site. And nevermind on the second thing. Also I missed the discussion :( where did it happen? Oh, I [[Talk:More_Fan_Costumes#Pictures|found it]]. I guess i'm just regurgitating what was said in the discussion. It's just so boring without the pictures... --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:47, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
::Boring, perhaps, ''but that's what the official site is for.'' Why don't you mark them for deletion, DorianGray (or whoever wants to help). I won't delete them myself. Rather, I'll let another sysop do that. That way, my actions will have been ratified by the community instead of being unilateral. Make sure none of the images are being used as a representative example (which is okay) before you mark them. Thanks. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:49, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Well, just in case you didn't see, I marked 'em all. It was kinda fun, actually. Glad to help out (especially when I was gypped out of a couple other projects I promised to you that I'd do). Call me when you need it done again. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Opinion==

:I'd like some input from others for the road to take with [[Talk:Secret Pages#Cleanup Idea|this]], since it's a pretty big decision. Thanks. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 23:43, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

= <div style="background:#BE0023; color:#fff; width:98%; padding-bottom:0.3em; padding-top:0.3em; padding-left:2%"> Trogdor! </div> =
== Hmm ==
I think it was .egg or .muffin --[[User:Adamlw|Adamlw]] 17:59, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
:Hmm? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]
::Congratulations on your 100th topic? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:31, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Indeed, congradulations? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
::::Oh and speaking of 100 topics, now is when most folks with gigantic talk pages usually archive? - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::::Your talk page is too long, Clanky, too long! ;) {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 20:52, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
By the way, I'm really somewhere in the neighborhood of 114 by now. Maybe when I hit 200 I'll consider archiving. And how come you guys don't pester [[User:Tom|Tom]] about this? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:54, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
:We've just come to accept Tom's longness. - {{User:Kookykman/sig}}
:::'''This is a long page to Edit conflict on.''' If you count all headings and subheadings it's 119. Tom is up to 120 (122 if you could subheadings) and has been around there for a while? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:06, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
::::I don't pester Tom about this because I don't frequent Tom's talk page like I frequent yours. But anyway, the real reason I came was just to say '''Happy hundwedth heading, .net It's dot com!''' {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:23, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Ha ha! My [[HRFWiki:User talk:Joshua|Fanstuff Wiki talk page]] pwns you all! (One more section is all I need to reach the 400-header mark, meaning I'm currently at 399.) Anyway, congratulations, It's dot commmm! - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:36, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah, but you archived it. This is pure, unbridled talkpage-ness right here. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::Are you saying my talk page would be better if I ''didn't'' archive it? Archiving rules. It keeps things managable. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:45, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::It can make it harder to find a specific conversation you're looking for, though. Particularly in a long one with lots of archive pages. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::::::[[HRFWiki:User:Joshua/Alltalk|Ask and ye shall receive...]] ''[page now deleted]'' - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 21:55, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, you [[User talk:Tom#Deleters|know what Tom says]]: "No way. A long talk page is the coolest." {{User:FireBird/sig}} 22:03, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Eep... I think I slowed down the Fanstuff server a little... I better delete the page. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 22:11, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
::::I just realized that your count, Dot com, should've been a little higher, since you move topics out of this page and to more appropriate pages. So you could've been at 140+ easily! Maybe? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 23:51, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
This page has been severely rearranged since this thread began. Good luck trying to count the sections now... Ha ha! ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:25, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
:Well, If you only moved stuff around and added these new 8 subjects, then you'd have 119 +8 = 127 categories! :-p ;) Anyway ... do you use IE Dot com? cuz in firefox the edit buttons are shifted slightly above the purple boxes :(. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 03:59, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
::I'll probably just live with the glitch for a bit. And the section heads don't actually count. Only actual ''content'' sections count. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 04:24, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Too bad we can't just turn those off. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 04:46, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

== Blanked out ==

What did you tried to do with this template? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:35, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

:I was looking for a way to insert a space automatically in front of a sig. A almost got it to work, but nothing was simpler than just pressing the space bar before the tildes. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:28, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
::What about inserting the space in the sig preference, of the sig subpage? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 19:38, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Already tried that. The system trims spaces from the beginning and end. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:04, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
::::What about ''<code>nbspc</code>'' or whatever that code is? Would that work or does it also mess things up? or even have {{quote|<code>nbspc[SPACE]<sig></code>}}? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 20:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::<code>&nbsp;</code> would work, but I'm looking for a way to insert a literal space—without any extra code. I tried making a template that was a completely blank page and then using the "subst" command, and it kind of worked, but it actually put <nowiki>"{{subst:blank}}"</nowiki> onto the page with the first edit, and it wasn't until the page was edited ''again'' that it disappeared. And that's more trouble than just pressing the space bar. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:57, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::Ahh! I see! I think I get it. Why then not put the <code>&nbsp;</code> inside your sig itself, instead of the sig nickname field thingy? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:32, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Well, I'm sure he could, but then until the cache of every page his sig is on was cleared, his sig would have two spaces in front of it. It happened to mine, but with an em dash. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 21:37, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Oh True! Good point! Oh well. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 21:43, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::Besides, I don't use a sig template. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:53, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

== Hello from Homsarroks ==

Hi, there, It's Dot Com. It's me, Homsarroks. I just wanted to say hello. I've seen your sig around a lot on the site and I thought that it would be cool to drop in and introduce myself.--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 16:25, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
:Hey there, Homsarroks. It's nice to meet you. What's your favorite thing to do here on the wiki? Looking at your user page, I see we have a lot of things in common. (By the way, there's no dot in Dr Pepper.) Cheers! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:29, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
::I'll change that Dr Pepper thingy. Thanks. My favorite things to do are to pop in and say hello to various people, revert vandalism, add to various articles, sign guestbooks, talk with various people, and contribute positive support to users. I'm also wondering how to become a sysop.--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 16:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Well, I have written at length on that subject on various pages, and a summary, with links, is [[#How_to_become_a_sysop|above]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:50, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Oh. Cool. It there anything that I can do to help the site as it is now?--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 16:51, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Sure. Check out [[HRWiki:The Stick]] and [[HRWiki:Projects]] for some ideas. You could also help fill in the gaps in some [[:Category:Stubs|stubs]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:57, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::I'm on it!--{{User:Homsarroks/sig}} 19:26, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

== Chaps ==

Hey there it's dot com, how have you been, i've been doing great. Can i ask you something, do you think the brothers chaps are aware of Homestar runner wiki? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:11, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
:I don't mind if people ask me general questions like this, but it's kind of irksome when they turn right around and ask the same question [[Talk:Main_Page#the_brothers_chaps|somewhere else]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:12, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Ps: have you answered my previous message, before the troll one, then one i added after you answered my original questions, particularly sompsons? [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:11, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
:No, I don't have a favorite ''Simpsons'' episode. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:12, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry if i asked you the question about the brother chaps to you, it's just that i get annoyed when i ask a simple question on a discussion page, but no one answers it, sorry. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 08:23, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
:It's not that big a deal. You actually asked me first, but then posted the same question one minute later. Just try to keep discussions in one place. Rock, rock on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== Playing horn ==

Hey Dot com, thought you'd be interested to hear that I've been playing my horn again over the weekend for the Christmas programs at my church. It brings back a lot of old memories of playing Mozart concertos and stuff... anyway, I didn't really have any other reason for leaving a note on your talk page; just thought you'd be interested to hear that. Hope all's going well for you. Keep on tranglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:19, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
:I've considered playing at my church, but I'm more useful doing some kind of backstage technical job, like controlling the video screens or running the camera. This past Thanksgiving, during our annual family reunion, we thought it would be fun to put on an instrumental ensemble. (There are at least 40 who attend Thanksgiving each year, and about half that number agreed to play in the ensemble.) We were able to use the band hall at the local university (where my uncle happens to be the dean of the school of music). It was a blast! I hadn't played for real in so long, but it all came back. And we were actually ''good!'' As it turned out, there were already two horns, so I played trumpet. I even had the melody all by myself at one point. (Now I know why trumpets think they're such hot stuff.) Good times! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:38, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
::Good times, indeed. We're having a bit of a family ensemble soon: my sister is having a senior recital in a few months and my mom, sisters and I are playing a sextet for piano and winds (we also had to draft a clarinet-playing friend.) That should be a lot of fun. I don't think my family could work up a twenty-piece ensemble, though, because only my immediate family is musical (well, except for an aunt who teaches elementary music in Washington). I wish I could play horn a bit more, but there's so little time. Not to mention that voice just has so much more great solo music (seeing that Schubert alone wrote seven hundred some songs) and that you don't have to do quite as much to keep up the chops. Alas, I'll just have to make do with our sextet performance for now. Anydangway, keep on trnaglin'. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:31, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

== Welcome templates ==

Hey there Ben. I'm just wondering why you edited a bunch of welcome templates like [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Goblin_Hammer&curid=9667&diff=219209&oldid=168237&rcid=163651 this]. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 00:15, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
:The [[HRWiki:Welcoming_committee#Standards_for_Welcoming|instructions]] state that the code should be substituted, not linked as a template. When it's linked as a template, it causes problems (see Bkmlb's template for an example). Several users (including him) need to fix their personal welcome templates so that they aren't linked. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:22, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
::Yeah, I just read over [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee|this]]. Got it now. {{User:Homestramy20/sig}} 00:25, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

== These <s>Sad</s> Hopeful Times ==

It is a time of desolation, chaos, and uncertaity. Ya it is because of freakin' no new user regestraition thing!!! Do you know when this is over!?!? Thouse people down it the fanstuff wiki seriously need some people with big imaginations! Like me and want a fanstuff acount so if you have any way to get one or when this will be over tell me on my talk page. {{User:NOT Billy Bob Bob/sig}} 21:17, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
:We appreciate your continued patience as we enhance our security. We have a plan in place to restore anonymous editing, which we hope to implement very soon. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:32, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
::Will this restoration you plan on doing soon just allow annony edits or will it also allow new user registration as well? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 00:29, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
:::The whole shebang. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:48, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

==Hi from Thekillerdynamo==
Hi.
:Yeah, Im new to the wiki, and was on my brother, Bubsty's account so I by accident edited bkmlb's welcome thing instead of my talk page. I didnt mean to mess it up. Lo siento! --Thekillerdynamo
::Yeah, I was in the shower, she was on '''''MY''''' computer, and messed it up. She accidently edited the template, by clicking on the edit tab on the "welcome!" subject line, and accidently edited it. <small>Please, don't edit stuff like that Sarah...</small> {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 22:41, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Welcome to the wiki, Sarah! Ask your brother to show you how to sign your name. Bubsty, what happened is that she edited his welcome template because it was linked on the page instead of being substituted. Whenever a welcome message is put on a talk page, it needs to use the <code><nowiki>subst</nowiki></code> command in the form: <code><nowiki>{{subst:welcome|parameters}}</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>{{subst:User:Username/welcome|parameters}}</nowiki></code>. That way, actual code gets placed on the page instead of a link to the template. I notice that both you and he have a lot of pages that need fixing. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:48, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
::::I noticed. I'll fix any that I see. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 03:45, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

== Awww, I liked it ==

I thought "templage" was cool. Definitely an above-average coinage. {{User:Bill Martinson/sig}} 20:57, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
:It's funny: That thought actually went through my head as I fixed it. What's even cooler are these sorely needed disambig templates. Good work, my friend! :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Oops -- it looks like your category work is somehow breaking all the disambig templates. {{User:Bill Martinson/sig}} 02:12, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

: Found the problem -- there can't be any carriage returns in any templates that are followed by another template in the same paragraph. Just change all the returns to spaces and it seems to work. {{User:Bill Martinson/sig}} 02:18, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Just a question sort of on this subject. Won't putting the template in the category also put every article with the template in that category? I always thought we put category tags in the talk pages of templates. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 02:27, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

:Aha! We can now put the category on the template itself because there a new feature called "noinclude". Anything between those tags will only be on the page itself, not any page where the template is placed. There's also "includeonly", which is the reverse of the first. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:29, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

::Oh, thanks for clearing that up. I wonder why I didn't notice those tags on the template page before... —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 02:38, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

:::For an example of both on the same template, see {{[[Template:disambig|disambig]]}}. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 02:40, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

::::Yay! We did something on the Fanstuff before the Knowledge Base! (That was a really pointless message. I just felt like saying it because it happens so rarely. :P) -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 05:12, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

:::::Erm, I can't tell whether that's referring to something in this thread or whether it's unrelated. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

::::::I will now proceed to whack myself in the head for mixing up the disambig and tobedeleted templates. So... just ignore my previous post. You get the quickest reply award. Ding. ''{runs away}'' -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 05:21, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

== Merry Christmas ==

Hey there it's dot com, how have you been, i've been doing great. I just wanted to say, merry christmas and a happy and safe holiday. thanks for all the kind messages you've been sending me. happy holiday. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 04:57, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
:A very merry Christmas to you, my friend! And a very cheery Decemberween, too! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 18:47, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
::Merry Christmas and Fröhliche Weihnachten from H*L, too, and thanks for all your help around the wiki. I'm sure I'd never had become as active a contributor as I am without your help. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 00:57, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
:::My pleasure! :) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:58, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah it took me long enough to get around to say this but... Merry Christmas Dot com! Yeah it's been hard to post a heck of a whole lot, esp with dialup. But it's good to be able to nevertheless! New year's a comin' ... soon! Aaaaaaah! <insert girlish scream> ;) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:37, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Girlish scream? Wow, Stux, is it even earilier there than it is here? Merry Christmas, It's dot com. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 06:55, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

== The weirdest thing ==

I don't know what I was thinking to myself when I decided to add ''another'' section to your talk page, but here is something weird: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:The_Chort&oldid=222295 Link]. Hide the TOC. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:00, 26 December 2005 (UTC) (P.S.: Happy holidays!)
:''Weeeeeird.'' Later I'm gonna figure out what's causing that bug (if it is indeed a bug) and see if I can't use it somehow. Thanks, Elad. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:47, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
::You're weclome! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 15:05, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

:::<tt>id='toc'</tt> is being used twice. An "id" is a unique identifier. Each time this attribute is used in a document it must have a different value. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:25, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
::::I think I found a sneaky use for it in my user page. :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:53, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

== Developer status ==

<blockquote>
*([[Special:Log/rights|Bureaucrat log]]); 00:45 . . [[User:Tom|Tom]] ([[User talk:Tom|Talk]]) (''Changed group membership for User:It's dot com from bureaucrat, sysop to bureaucrat, sysop, developer'')
</blockquote>

Brilliant, It's dot com! Congratulations! Also congratulations on being the fastest user to be promoted in rank twice. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 05:53, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
:Top o' the heap now, aren't ya? If he wasn't such a good user, I'd think he had some sort of mind-control device, an ulterior motive, and a world-domination plot. Or maybe I read too many comics. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::Thanks you guys, but actually nothing is different (in a philosophical sense) from before. The "developer" user group is unused in MediaWiki 1.5 except for one feature, which we didn't decide to enable until just now. Because the group was undefined, before today it wasn't possible (without editing the database directly) to add me to it (or, indeed, to even remove the labels next to the names of the other members of the Admin Team, if we had wanted to dissolve the group altogether). Once the group was defined, I could have added myself to it if Tom hadn't done it for me. ''Note to self: DorianGray seems to have stumbled upon my plans. Take steps to eliminate. Muahaha.'' Er, I mean, rock, rock on! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:17, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

:::So Tom was going to promote you straight to developer before, but the feature wasn't enabled? Nothing is new? Don't you get power to directly edit the database and such? — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 06:31, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
::::Right, nothing is new. The promotion back when was to Admin, not bureaucrat. Bureaucrat status was merely part of it. It would also have included the developer group had it existed at the time. Access to the database is a separate process, and I've been able to do that as long as I've been on the Admin Team. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:39, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::Ah, now I understand. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 06:45, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::It's still kinda cool! It sort of makes it official now. :) To the big man on campus I say, Congratz! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 07:03, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::Congratulation on your developertion, Dot Commetion! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:12, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
::::::::Okay, thanks again, but I reiterate: Everything is the same. Nothing is new. :| — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 13:39, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm a bit late, but I gotta say congrats as well. Just don't let your hand slip while stroking the great big "take down the wiki" button that we all know exists. And nice work on your talk page reformatting. That's totally brilliant. It's like... It was meant to be... I'm not kidding... {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 00:54, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

== Reminder ==

Did you ever write yourself that note you mentioned [[HRWiki:Da Basement#Image uploading|here]]? {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} @ 05:41, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
:I did leave myself a note, and I haven't forgotten about it. [[User:Tom|Tom]] experimented with it some, and his conclusion was that we need to wait for MediaWiki version 1.6. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:44, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
::Oh, gotcha. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} @ 21:02, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

== Beating me to it ==

Hey Dot Com! Happy New year! I just found it funny that you [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Help:Contents&diff=226709&oldid=226707 beat me] to a change I was about to do a bit ago. Granted, it would've taken me forever to get to the page to do it. The minute I hit the edit button there it was! As if someone had read my mind! :) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:16, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
: ;) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]]

== Happy New Year ==

Happy new year and all the best wishes, see you around. [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:46, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
:Happy New Year, Nikolce! Have a fantastic 2006 (and beyond)! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:46, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

I know it's a little late, I just wanted to wish you a happy new year, and may archive your long friggin' talk page this year! {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 10:40, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== Fanstuff E-mail ==

The fanstuff doesn't have [[HRFWiki:Special:Emailuser/Super Sam|e-mail features]] re-enabled - could you please re-enable them? - {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 15:32, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

:Done. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:45, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

== What do you like most about Homestar Runner? ==

Hey there it's dot com (can i call you dot com) how have you been, i've been doing great, anyway the question i'm asking you is the title. see you around wiki, rock rock on! [[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 10:11, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
:Hey Nikolce. Yes you can call me Dot com (see the top of my [[User:it's dot com|user page]]). My [[First Time Here?|favorite joke]] is the one where I got my name (homestarrunner.net ... It's dot com), partially because it was the first joke I ever saw. The first email I saw was [[japanese cartoon]], and that may be the hardest I've ever laughed. I like just about everything on the site, but in particular I like the live [[Puppet Stuff]] where [[Matt Chapman|Matt]], playing Homestar, is interacting with an audience or an interviewer, because that's usually comic gold! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:37, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

==Block user==
How do you block someone? {{User:The thing/sig}} 00:30, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:List them on [[HRWiki:WikiTroll]], and a sysop will handle it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:31, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

== Lost password ==

Major crisas! I forgot my password for the fanstuff wiki is theire any hope of finding it? Your a syops please help me! If it'll help my user name is General Grape-Nuts! {{User:NOT Billy Bob Bob/sig}} 20:49, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

:See the little button on the bottom of the login page that says "Email new password"? That'll reset your password and send the new one to your email address. You should then be able to log in and change your password to something more memorable. — {{User:JoeyDay/sig}} 21:29, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

== Cookies and uppercase usernames ==
I noticed in the recent changes page that you deleted ''my'' talk page (yes it is mine, I am having lots of trouble with Firefox remembering my cookies on the HRWiki, [[User_talk:AbdiViklas#Thanks|take a look here]]. It shows an IP address as the creator of the question, but I am registered. Firefox is causing misunderstanding, all because of cookies! He (AbdiViklas) responded, but nothing happened! I know, you're a sysop, '''can't you do SOMETHING to help?????''' '''-ON2SEE!!!'''
: I don't know what user name you signed up as, but the page Dot Com deleted started with a lowercase letter; currently, the only user names supported are of the capitalized variety, so I know that that wasn't quite your user name. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 22:04, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:: Thanks Jay, didn't know bout the capitalized username thing! Anyotherways, any idea about the Firefox thing? -[[User:On2see|On2see]]
::: ''[Edit conflict]'' Your user page is located at [[User:On2see]] (with the capital ''O-'') and your talk page is [[User talk:On2see]]. Try closing your browser completely and logging in again. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:15, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Arrested_Development#Response|Nothing's Concrete Yet]] ==

Sure it sounds grim, but no ''official announcement'' has been made yet :) {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:57, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'm not sure whether to hold my breath or not. I dunno... at this point, I think I'll just be pleasantly surprised should it return. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:39, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

== Curiously...Here's some mad props. ==

Hey, just want to apologize for all the headaches I've been causing here on the site and to give you the credit for the "curiously, Strong Bad misspells curiousity" quote that I...uh...borrowed/stole for one of my new pages. I only used it because I thought it was really funny and couldn't think of a better way to phrase it. Just wanted to give you [[Strong Mad Other Costumes|mad props]]. You deserve it!

-{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 20:23, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

:I completely forgot about writing that. :) You shouldn't feel bad about taking anything from one article and putting it on another, because anthing on the site that is not copyrighted by someone else (usually TBC) is released under a Creative Commons Deed. Also, you're doing a [[best thing|rrll rrll]] good job, so keep it up! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:30, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

::Thanks man. Another one that I totally missed! Jeez, I'm as bad as Strong Bad. I hope. Anyway, I just thought I should give credit where credit is due. Keep up on the edits here and hopefully TBC will fix homstarrunner.net soon.

::-{{User:Houdin654jeff/sig}} 20:41, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

== IP ==
i have a suspicioun that [[user:Trendy Totebag|trendy totebag]] and [[user:Seriously|seriously]] are acually one on the same, is there a way to find out for sure? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 12:43, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
:"One ''and'' the same". It would take some digging to find out. What makes you think so? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:49, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
::can't you just match the i.p.s? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 00:15, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:::No, it's not as simple as that. And you didn't answer my question. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:21, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
::::ok, he is a "friend" of seriously and he seems obsessed with saying that he knows seriously, he keeps saying that he will name him for sysops, and he vandalized my site the only other person to do that was seriously. plus i didnt find anywhere when seriously tells totebag that i trolled his page. [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 01:57, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
so can u figure it out? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 00:04, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'll keep an eye on it. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:08, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
::just how complecated is the prosses of finding out? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 00:09, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

User:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf

2006-01-13T00:06:19Z

Ciberdude444: /* Complete Filmography */ standardizing

{|
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| bgcolor="#efefef" align="center" colspan=2 |
[[Image:joshin_me_2.gif]]
|-
| align="center" colspan="2" style="border-bottom:3px solid gray;" | <font size="-1">''I see you jockin' me. Tryin' to play like...you know me.''</font>
|-
| bgcolor="#efefef" | Name
| bgcolor="#dfefff" | [[i love you|Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf]]
|-
| bgcolor="#efefef" | Real Name
| bgcolor="#dfefff" | [[Fhqwhgads|Unknown]]
|-
| bgcolor="#efefef" | Favourite Song
| bgcolor="#dfefff" | ''[[Everybody to the Limit]]''
|-
| bgcolor="#efefef" | Least Favourite Song
| bgcolor="#dfefff" | [[sibbie|''Song About Sibbie'']]
|-
| bgcolor="#efefef" | Indifferent Song
| bgcolor="#dfefff" | [[sibbie|''I Freakin' Hate Sibbie'']]
|-
| bgcolor="#efefef" | Occupation
| bgcolor="#dfefff" | [http://getvirushelp.com/iloveyou/ Hacker]
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| bgcolor="#efefef" | Favourite Pastime
| bgcolor="#dfefff" | [http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html Emailing]
|-
| bgcolor="#efefef" | Mission
| bgcolor="#dfefff" | Spread the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail9.html ''I Love You''] virus
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| bgcolor="#efefef" | Favourite Radio Station
| bgcolor="#dfefff" | [[radio|''The Fish Was Delish Progrum'']]
|-
| bgcolor="#efefef" | Favourite Book
| bgcolor="#dfefff" | [http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail120.html ''Tolstory 2'']
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[[Image:fhqwhgadshgnsdhjsdbkhsdabfabkveybvf.gif|thumb|My debut!]]
[[Image:everybodytothelimit.gif|thumb|Everybody to the limit!]]

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''[[User Talk:Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf|Talk]] | [[Special:Emailuser/Fhqwhgadshgnsdbkhsdabkfabkveybvf|Email]]''</td></tr></small>
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Greetings and welcome to the page which has come to house the imforarmation with which I empart! USE IT WISELEY...for it may be the last thing you do...Ooooooh!

==Complete Filmography==
*'''Debut:''' [[i love you]]
*[[Everybody to the Limit]]
*[[sibbie]]
*[[Main Page 13]]
*[[Dancin' Bubs]]
*[[King Of Town Main Page]]

==Pages I Made==
*[[Bubs' Ha-Ha-Halloween Comedy Club]]
*[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Category:Clubs Clubs]
*[[Strong Sad Lookalike Contest]]
*[[Ladies' Choice Awards]]
*[[The Strongs' Capsela]]
*[[Marzipan's Purse]]
*[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Category:Magazines Magazines]
*[[Hundredaire Socialite]]
*[[Nerdular Nerdence]]
*[[Little Strong Sad]]

==Pages I Helped With==
*[[Kobe]]
*[[King of Town's Castle]]
*[[Club Technochocolate]]
*[[Killingyouguy]]

User talk:It's dot com

2006-01-13T00:04:13Z

Ciberdude444: /* IP */

User:Ciberdude444

2006-01-13T00:02:31Z

Ciberdude444: nobody correct me its my page

===hello everyone... I'm back!!!===
====muahahahahahahahahahahahaha====
me!!!!!!!!!!
#i live in A-town
#i am 73
#my name is Ciberos Fitsgerald Dude
#if you want my email or such ask me for it on my talk page
#in conclustion: go away

==[[user:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]] thinks i should say this:==
#I am an old geezer.
#I should get a life.
#I should stop trolling.

==People who have a problem with me(my vandalizers)==
[[user:Seriously|crambert]]

[[user:Trendy Totebag|dumpas]]

==quotes==
Second place is like being the tallest midget... no one cares.

Before you criticize someone walk a mile in their shoes; that way, when you criticize them you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes!

it is now beyond all doubt that cigarettes are the largest cause of statistics

42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

...Because, if Santa and the holiday armadillo are in the same room for too long, the world will implode... Merry Christmas!!!!

I see you're drinking 1%, is that because you think you're fat? cause your not, you could be drinking whole if you wanted too.

Are You suggesting coconuts migrate?

so then i said to the guy 'if this is the house of pancakes how come i can't eat the walls?'

if at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence you tried

==if you dont know this song you are nothing to me==

Say, Hey!

Hear the sound of the falling rain

Coming down like an Armageddon flame

The shame

The ones who died without a name

Hear the dogs howling out of key

To a hymn called "Faith and Misery"

And bleed

The company that lost the war today

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

Hear the drum pounding out of time

Another protester has crossed the line

To find

The money's on the other side

Can I get another Amen? (Amen!)

There's a flag wrapped around a score of men

A gag

A plastic bag on a monument

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

"The representative from California has the floor"

Zieg heil to the president gasman,

Bombs away is your punishment.

Pulverize the Eiffel towers,

Who criticize your government.

Bang, Bang goes the broken glass and

Kill all the fags that don't agree.

Trials by fire, setting fires

Is not a way that's meant for me.

Just cause, just cause, because we're outlaws, yeah!

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives on holiday.

I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies

This is the dawning of the rest of our lives

This is our lives,

On holiday!

==my sig==
{{user:Ciberdude444/sig}}
awesome, huh?

HRWiki talk:WikiTroll

2006-01-12T03:20:29Z

Ciberdude444: /* NSMC */

== Rollback link? ==
Okay, on the WikiTroll page it has instructions for reverting a page back to a previous version. In it, it says:

Next, click the "rollback" link near the upper right side of the page (directly to the right of the most recent author's name).

However it doesn't have a rollback link by the most recent author's name... do these instructions need to be revised?

--[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]] 19:05, 28 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Yes, of course. I have changed the text to refect this. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 10:26, 29 Sep 2004 (MST)

In these instructions, I noticed that the two sections are sysop and non-sysop. What is sysop, and how do I get it? Its really annoying reverting edits the non-sysop way.

:First off, please sign your posts, [[User:-erson|-erson]]. Second off, a sysop is just an [[HRWiki:Administrators|Admin]], which is a user with different rights (blocking an IP, for example). To become an admin, another one must appoint it to you. →''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''

Semi off topic, but semi on.
It's a '''very''' nice diversion from studying for your psychology exam that you're going to fail anyway to go through the trolled pages and check out all the...well...trolling ^_^ --[[User:Southpaw018|Southpaw018]] 20:47, 3 Nov 2004 (MST)

== Trolling or not? ==

I notice many IP's are starting to troll, then deleting the trolling afterwards. Is this still considered trolling? -- <small>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</small>|<sub>[[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]]</sub>

:It depends really. If it is something like they are adding "adsfafsd" to a page and then removing it, I'd think that's more a new person testing on a page instead of the sandbox. If it's something that's defacement, then it's still defacement. Do you have a specific example in mind?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 02:26, 13 Nov 2004 (MST)

::A new user ([[User:daunrealist|daunrealist]]) posted "I am dumb" and "I spelled grammar and Mozillaa wrong" on my talk page, but then deleted it. I told him to stop, but he just said he was "commenting". --<small>[[User:FireBird|FireBird]]</small>|<sub>[[User Talk:FireBird|Talk]]</sub>

::Sorry, it was a while ago and I was just testing. Sorry if you were the victim, Fire. --[[User:Daunrealist|daunrealist]] 19:02, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

== Namespace ==
Shouldn't this be in the HRWiki namespace instead of the main one? --[[User:Kilroy|[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy]]/<small><sub>[[User talk:Kilroy|talk]]</sub></small>]] 17:18, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

:Probably. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to notice. I'll move it now.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:37, 22 Nov 2004 (MST)

== New Format ==

Although I agree that the new format looks nicer, I have two concerns:
* By archiving the offense, we're adding to the exposure of spam. If people are really curious about the offense, they could find it in the old format with a few mouse clicks.
* It's more difficult for people to contribute to the spam page. Before, it was rather straightforward; now people have to figure out formatting for the chart when they add a submission. Perhaps we could devise a system in which people can add a simple comment and another person reformat it later; this adds an extra step, but is more convenient for those less familiar with Wikipedia who still wish to defend the sanctity of the Wiki. =) --[[user:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]

::I actually agree with you about the degree of difficulty. It is a big increase. I was actually thinking of saying something in the instructions about, "Yeah, and if you can't figure that table out, just do your best down at the bottom of the page and someone will fix it for you." As to the archive of the old stuff, MediaWiki keeps every edit for every page anyway. We might need to develop some kind of subpage archive, which I would want to make kind of fancy or something, but I was going to wait until the end of the month.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:38, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

::P.S.: I added the note. I'd also like to add that this format is just to make my job a little easier. All those links are the pages I check before I block someone. It's totally selfish on my part...[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 21:45, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)

:::I saw the note and I understand your reasons for wanting easy access to the offense. Thanks for your quick response! -- [[user:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]]

::::It seems kind of cluttered now (and a whole lot more confusing). But whatever is easier for the admins. It's not like it matters. →''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>''

== 64.246.132.* ==

I actually didn't block 64.246.132.116, and I won't block 64.246.132.182 for its last edit because of the nature of their IP addresses. These edits really aren't that bad, and from what I noticed the software did in the time after I blocked "spacemonkey", it seems to be that is who to blame. The software blocks anonymous editors that have the same IP as a blocked user, and I know a bunch were auto blocked while he/she was blocked. The only way to deal with these dynamic IP people is with quick reverts to discourage them. If it gets bad, I don't mind a short temp block, but I don't like blocking legitimate users that might get caught in the same range. Anyway, it just seems that this person thinks they are funny or something, and I imagine they might know Renegade Master in real life. Bah.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 12:50, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
:Yes, why is he so determined to troll?! [[User:woddfellow2|<nowiki></nowiki>]]-<tt>[[User:woddfellow2|<font color=teal>woddfellow2</font>]]|[[User talk:woddfellow2|<font color=teal>✎</font></tt>]] 22:12, 10 Jan 2005 (MST)

== Archive? ==

The troll list is getting fairly long; can we archive some of the older entries to make it shorter to edit? If someone is a repeat offender, a glance at their "contributions" should reveal that. --[[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 22:43, 11 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Okay, good idea. How much should I leave here though? One month? Two?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:39, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

::We could probably group them by month, then have just the current and previous month's troll list posted (so, now we would have December and January). Even just dividing by month would help the page, since then people could edit just one section instead of the whole page. It would also make it clearer to first-time reporters where they should place their edits. Thanks! -- [[User:FortyTwo|FortyTwo]] 19:51, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

:::I think you have the right idea with knowing previous offenders by their contributions listing. I suppose if we created an archive page, I could just put all but the most recent few months there. I don't know what you mean by adding to different months though, since each new entry is placed at the bottom of the list regardless of if they've defaced before.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 23:48, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)

:Yes, that list is getting too fragging long. It takes too long to load. How are we going to archive the older entries? [[User:woddfellow2|<nowiki></nowiki>]]-<tt>[[User:woddfellow2|<font color=teal>woddfellow2</font>]]|[[User talk:woddfellow2|<font color=teal>✎</font></tt>]] 13:35, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

::Oh, almost forgot about this. [[HRWiki:WikiTroll Archive]] works for me.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:51, 14 Jan 2005 (MST)

== pertmywert ==

I would like something done with [[User talk:pertmywert|pertmywert]]. It's driving me nuts.
It seems as though he thinks that his userspace is his own website. If you try to talk to him through his talk page he will get mad and erase your comment, as well as your userspace. He also insults people with crap (see "[[User talk:pertmywert#People I Hate|here]]). He just doesn't get it, and I see no way to contact him. →[[User:FireBird|''<small><tt>[[User:FireBird|<font color=green>FireBird</font>]]</tt></small>'']]

Hey sorry firebird

post something on my page to tell me what i am doing wrong please
;[[User:Pertmywert|''<small><tt>[[User:pertmywert|<font color=green>pertmywert</font>]]</tt></small>'']]

== New Spammer thing I noticed ==

We now have a type of spammer that claims to be unspamming in the summary of change box. Example: [[Special:Contributions/209.88.103.215|209.88.103.215]]. Just wanted to let people know, as it confused me for a moment.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 13:31, 23 Mar 2005 (MST)

== Testing Outside of [[HRWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]] = Trolling? ==

I am trying to decide whether or not to ad 217.87.196.142 to the troll blotter. He/she seems to be testing, so it would probably be mean to add his/her IP address to the troll blotter. What should I do? [[User:woddfellow2|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—<tt>[[User:woddfellow2|<font color=teal>woddfellow2</font>]]|[[User talk:woddfellow2|<font color=teal>✎</font></tt>]] 11:31, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

:My advice for the moment is to do nothing; I think the maxim "[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers|Please do not bite the newcomers]]" applies here. As of this writing, the IP in question only has [[Special:Contributions/217.87.196.142|two contributions]], which are hardly anything to get worked up about. If the user does it again, then I suggest a gentle note on his or her [[User_talk:217.87.196.142|talk page]] explaining that these actions are inappropriate. Only after that would I believe that a formal sanction was warranted. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 12:30, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)

::The use of the [[Template:test|test template]] might also be good as well.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 19:14, 2 Apr 2005 (MST)

== Block IP Blocks ==

Is it possible to delete a block of IP addresses? 69.50.1* has been spamming over and over and over and over and over and OVER again, (his favorite targets are [[Peasant's Quest]] (don't ask me why!), [[HRWiki:FAQ]], [[Talk:FAQ]], and [[HRWiki talk:FAQ]]) but his IP address shifts ever so slightly each time. He doesn't seem to realize that the Wiki now automatically adds a nofollow tag to links. It's really annoying. The alternative would be to block each and every IP address he could theoretically post through, but that's likely in the neighborhood of several thousand (give me a while and I could give you the exact number) and it's possible you might accidently block a legit user. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
: The smallest third frame I've seen him use is 166, and the largest is 187. My math gives that the smallest and largest he's probably capable of are 160 and 191. That gives him 8,190 possible different IP addresses! Ow! So if block-blocking isn't possible, he's going to be around for a while... ugh. --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 07:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:: He's still around and still spamming. Isn't there ANYTHING you can do? --[[User:Jay|Jay]] 06:13, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
::: If anyone cares (which doesn't seem to be the case), I've officially seen him use a 191 third frame. I doubt he can go higher, based on what I know about IPs. --[[User:Jay|me again]]

== I just can't resist ==

[[Special:Contributions/168.212.111.228|168.212.111.228s]] gone yay <br>
(Check the link to see what I'm talking about...) --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 15:38, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I clicked, but... [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:44, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
: He's the guy who keeps adding "schuylers gone yay" to pages. He did it to [[Email]], to [[Toons]] and to his own now-deleted illegitimate User page. He's also been responsible for other sorts of trolling (he's the guy you just reverted and I blocked for a little while.) --[[User:Jay|<span style = "color: #9090FF">''Jay''</span>]] [[User talk:Jay|<span style = "color: #006030"><small>(Talk)</small></span>]] 15:47, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I just didn't get the "schuylers gone yay" reference. [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 15:50, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== How do I? ==

Let's say I found someone trolling, you know defacing pages, breaking links and all that sort of stuff. How'd I report it? Do I just post something here saying (insert ip adress here) is trolling?

== TROLL ==

85.100.29.233 is trolling and has trolled on [[User:pertmywert|pertmywert]] s user page and on the hrwiki help page with adult porn sites.

PLEASE BLOCK HIM

:Done. {{User:Kilroy/sig}} 12:28, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

== When to Add Trolls ==

I was wondering when I should and when I shouldn't add trolls to this page, because I usually wonder if what I am doing is unnecessary when .... I add a troll ''after'' it gets temporarily blocked, to serve as a sort of "log," just in case it comes back for a repeat. But then I wonder, do most sysops look at the user contributions and block log instead of the troll page to see if it is a repeat offender?

Is this page's purpose to be more of an attention-caller to sysops after a troll has done its work, and hasn't been blocked because there were no sysops logged in? Is that really the only time I should add a troll to this page? Or ''does'' this serve as a detailed log? If so, then why don't more people add bad trolls after they are blocked? --[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 23:52, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, I usually check the user contributions before I block, to see if the user is a repeat offender. It's most important to put them on the WikiTroll page when the troll needs to be blocked but there are no sysops there. Other times, it's not necessary, I don't think. <small><tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|<span style="color:#8B0000;">Aurora the Homestar Coder</span>]]</tt></small> 23:54, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==207.69.0.0/16==
Over and over, this moron keeps returning. He's got a dynamic IP, so in order to properly thwart him, we have to block the whole range. But by doing so, there's a chance that totally legit users will get blocked as well. Is there any way to report this guy to his ISP? (It's Earthlink in, of all places, Atlanta, GA.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:01, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: To answer my own question, I tracked down their abuse line and sent an e-mail to it. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:10, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:: Yay for automated systems. After mentioning where I was coming from, the nature of the attacker, the IP address he was last seen using, the approximate time he used it, my time zone, and the date... it came back with an automated response, saying I didn't include enough information and needed to include AT LEAST an IP address, a time, a time zone and a date. >_< Strangely enough, responding to that with (in summary) "Uh... I did" got an automated response that said "Okay, we got it!" --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:18, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::: When posting on this talk page, please begin your post with several colons, which will indent your reply. Follow that with AT LEAST some content that relates to the lines that precede your message. Last, add your signature and the date and time. Thank you. — [[User:It's dot com|Automated Response]] 07:25, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::: Ell. Oh. Ell. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 07:28, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::: Okay, we got it! — [[User:It's dot com|Automated Response]]

== THE TROLL IS TROLLING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!!! ==

OMG!!!! Somehow [[User:Fricky Dee|Fricky Dee]] trolled on MY IP address!!!! How can that be????? -Kinsey

Woah. Go ask a sysop or admin for help. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}}

If you have a dynamic ip address then it's possible that at one time the troller had the same ip address as you at some point in time. Also, some ISPs use the same IP address for more then one customer (rare, however). That's my 13 cents. Can be many other things though. -[[User:Mick|Mick]]

== troll template ==

I made a simple template to make adding a troll just a little easier. <s>It is in the following format: '''<code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>troll|evildoer}}</code>'''. It's a lot like the STUFF templates, in that you add the template where it should go, preview it, and then copy and paste the resulting code over the template. '''Note:''' the code for a new row (<code>|-</code>) is ''not'' part of the template, so you'll need to add that manually. I tried it both ways and it was easier the way it is now. '''Also note:''' the HTML comments are ''next to'' the brackets where the links go, not in them, because it was easier to replace the text that way.</s> (I don't like the way the selection insists on expanding when I'm highlighting something.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:14, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:Hmm, I'm playing with the variables a little here, but why go through the whole thing of doing a copy and paste? Why not just have <s><tt><nowiki>{{subst:troll|It's dot com|page|http://diffgoeshere|description}}</nowiki></tt> output exactly what we need:
:|-
|| {{CURRENTMONTH}}/{{CURRENTDAY}}/{{CURRENTYEAR}} || [[User:It's not com|It's ''not'' com]] ([[Special:Contributions/It's not com|all edits]]) || page || http://diffgoeshere
:Works for me.</s> And I don't think it would be too hard to explain, at the very least it's easier than doing the copy and paste thing.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:35, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::Ah ha, now you want to put the table formatting in there too? I'll let you figure that out. Let me know here when you're done.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:36, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

<s>The template has been modified. The format is now: '''<code><nowiki>{{ subst:</nowiki> [[Template:troll|troll]] | evildoer | | description }}</code>'''</s> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:43, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::What a tick. I don't think CURRENTMONTH et al. work like we think they do with templates. Do you see what I'm saying?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:40, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

::::Yeah, if you posted a troll today with this template, the date would keep updating itself every day. And [[MetaWikipedia:Help:Template#subst|the user guide]] says using "subst" for each of those magic words would just show the date the template was created. It looks like we are going to have to have the user input the date themselves.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:46, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

:::::Hmm. Well stink. They need to fix that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:03, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

<s>The template has been modified ''again''. The ''new'' format is now: <br />'''<code><nowiki>{{ subst:</nowiki> [[Template:troll|troll]] | mm/dd/yy | evildoer }} <nowiki>[[pagename]][actual edit]</nowiki> || description</code>'''<br />Note where the template closes. This is necessary because of the equal signs (=) in the actual edit link.</s> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:07, 27 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I thought of a much better use for the [[Template:troll|troll template]]. The old template was primarily to help with entering the user details. I have changed it to eliminate some make it even easier. Simply type <nowiki>{{troll|evildoer}}</nowiki> where the user data goes. (You now need to build all of the table manually, but the old version of the template wasn't really helping much with that anyway.) The new template has some important links. First, '''"contribs"''' shows all contributions, as has been our custom to do. Next, '''"log"''' searches the block log to tell whether a user has already been blocked for the current vandalism and whether he or she has been blocked in the past (this link is intended for sysops, but anyone can use it). Finally, '''"block"''' is a quick link for sysops to block the troll if warranted (this link will only work for sysops). Happy hunting! — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:55, 4 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== What's with these people? ==

I've been looking at the troll edits. You'd expect if they were going to do something that would get themselves in trouble, they would do so constructively. I mean, you'd expect they'd put in something humorous or some misconception or something like that. But all they do is insert explicit crap for no good reason. And the threats against the admins? what's with that?
They type like they're illiterate, they have no sense of humor or comprehension of other people...
What do they think this site is, or that people use this for?
Who are these stupid people?

''They type like they're illiterate, they have no sense of humor or comprehension of other people''; I think that pretty well explains the vast majority of them. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:26, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==Archive==
This page needs to be archived soon. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 01:13, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Uh, this page is over forty kilos long. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:37, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
==Thechamp==

How dare you blame me for being a troll! I threaten to scare the trolls away, To stop them! I only have the sites good order in mind. I sware it! I mean only harm to the vile trolls! I will not appologize for my actions, I did what I did for the good of the site, That is my argument! --[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 19:11, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
: We don't need to ''scare'' them away; they can be blocked by sysops. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:27, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::Yes, but any administrator will admit to you that They can only be blocked for a minamal amount of time, I say we need a more permenant blocking system! If we can get funding by people that come here, We may be able to get programming axcessable only to the admins, that can perminantly block the site from users that illeaglely use it! There is always a bigger gun! --[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 19:31, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::: I ''am'' a sysop and ''have'', multiple times, blocked IP addresses or user names permanently. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:33, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::How?

::::: You can set the "Length of block" to "indefinite" or "infinite". See [[Special:Ipblocklist]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:37, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::But the admin I spoke with told me that the blockings were only finite? So they realy aren't? -[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 19:41, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

::::::: You can set them to finite or infinite. The latter is only reserved for extreme cases. Which sysop did you talk to? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:44, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I think it was the first one on the special page list. _[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 19:46, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Can someone maybe take me off the list? --[[User:Thechamp|Thechamp]] 20:06, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== crossed out ==

Why are a lot of the topics in this page crossed out or is it just me?--{{User:bkmlb/sig}} 19:39, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:me to. I think no one finished the <nowiki> <s> </nowiki> tags. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 19:40, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::These sections were crossed out for a reason. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:05, 23 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:::Uh... why are all these sections crossed out? You never excactly gave an answer when talking to bkmlb. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 05:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

== Is this like wikipedia ==

If so can't you prevent trolls by locking pages like they do at wikipedia

:Of course we can, but we choose not to lock most pages other than the Main Page. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 16:41, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)

==David Brown spammer==
Just a note to the admins - the spammer "David Brown" used the IP addresses 82.67.192.173, 24.19.127.190 and 24.60.90.194 and 69.237.70.164, but both of the 24 IPs aren't blocked. I don't know what it takes to get a permanent block, but this *ahem* gentleman blanked at least four pages with his worthless spam on all of those addresses, if it is indeed the same guy. {{User:Thesmokingmonkey/sig}} 18:09, 27 Aug 2005 (UTC)
:He struck again. I hate this spammer. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 16:02, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)

== Tired ==
Hey, guys, I'm really getting tired of being blocked from editing just because a troll has a similar IP address to mine. I DON'T troll, never have, never would, and I'm really getting sick of being blocked just because of one idiot. This is the fourth time this has happened. Please fix it. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 13:17, 19 Sep 2005 (UTC)

== What do we do about this? ==

Or rather: [[User:Lizabet|this]]? Yeah, it's a user page, but the user's only edit was to spam her (guessing from the name) user page. That was way back in May. I see no point in blocking a user who's clearly not going to deface the wiki,(note the future tense) and hasn't done so in 6 months, but also has done nothing but spam. Delete the page and user? Block and blank the page? I can't believe it took 6 months for this to be found. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:47, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
: I deleted the page (sysops can see what used to be on it if you care) but I don't know if there's any point to blocking a (l)User who doesn't seem to actually exist. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:49, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 08:52, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

== Wiki Tiki What? ==

Can somebody tell me what the Wiki Tiki Tavi troll section is? I'm totally confused here.--{{User: Ampi/sig2}} 06:01, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:That's a particular spammer, which has been grouped into its own table for ease of reading. Click on the edits and you'll see a pattern. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 07:00, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
::I must say this about the name given to this troll...it's probably the only time you'll see a loose Kipling reference on the HR Wiki. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 17:32, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:::Actually, it's his own reference to the wiki software we used on the old wiki but, yeah, I guess it is a Kipling reference. I never noticed that before! {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 17:56, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah; I found it amusing. Props to whoever named the software. Up next: The Jungle Powerbook™, The LAN Who Would Be King, How The Webmaster Got His IP, Sysops Courageous, and KIM ([http://www.google.com/search?q=%22knowledge-based+information+management%22&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official Knowledge-based Information Management]). —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 18:47, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Kipling?!?! What the... oh wait, never mind. I just rembered Rudyard Kipling's Rikki Tiki Tavi. Ok... {{User:Darklinkskywalker/DLSsignature}} 01:20, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
:Yep. Has anybody seen the cartoon of it? That was cute. —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 02:04, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
::It was definitely cute. I think I prefer ''The White Seal'', personally. (Also done when Jones went solo.) {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 18:31, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

== Notifying Sysops vs. Keeping a record? ==

Even though NSMC1 had already been blocked in the middle of his vandalism, I went ahead and added him to the Offenders list, along with the offenses. That entry was immediately removed with the message "Sorry, but this is only to alert sysops". So, my question is: Why are we keeping a record of other offenders on this page, if this page is only meant as a way to notify sysops? {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 19:15, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:[[User_talk:It%27s_dot_com#WikiTroll|That's a good question.]] I have something in mind for this guy, though (who is hopefully just a copycat with a poor sense of humor). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:20, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::Note also that it's especially unnecessary in the case of NSMC or WoW or any other serial vandals we may have because the sysops will automatically know to give these usernames infinite blocks. For these guys, we only need to list them if there are no sysops around and we need to inform them of new usernames to block. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 19:24, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:::But thanks for asking that question, Kiefer; I actually was wanting to yesterday and refrained. So the purpose of WikiTroll is ''not'' to be a comprehensive documentation of vandalism, but simply a way to "tattle" when nobody who's on can themselves block? —[[User:AbdiViklas|AbdiViklas]] 20:30, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Er, yes and no. It's gotta be somewhere in between those two extremes, otherwise we'd either list everybody or delete each entry as soon as the user was blocked. I've noticed that if people were in the middle of listing offenses when the vandal is blocked, they tend to go ahead and make the record as complete as possible. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:35, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
:::::It looks to me like we're more on the side of archiving all the vandalisms, which I think is fine, personally - it gives us a record to refer to, especially for repeat offenders, and it also tells would-be vandals that we do pay attention to this stuff. {{User:KieferSkunk/sig}} 20:43, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

== Sorry ==
I'm really really sorry''{{User:The thing/sig}}'' '''<i>[[User_talk:The thing|<small><font color=green>I selfishly trolled. sorry</font></small>]]</i>''' 22:20, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

== What actually does constitute a troll? ==

I noticed that under Ciberdude444's trolling list, he is listed for insulting Salty. Yet, I reported someone as a troll for insulting ME, on my user page, and it was reverted. What is the deal? -[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 20:12, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
:One incident is usually not enough to label somebody a troll unless they've done something especially heinous and/or they've made it clear they plan to continue. For somebody to be labeled a troll they have to have a clear ''history'' of of trolling and/or vandalism. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} @ 21:17, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
::Understandable, but this person did have a history of trolling. This person also went out of their way to post said message on page. -[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 21:21, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
:::The difference is that 67.21.159.13 (whom you listed) posted a message on your talk page, whereas Ciberdude444 was vandalizing articles and user pages. In addition, [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:ISlayedTheKerrek&diff=prev&oldid=173064 this edit], while unsigned and very poor in mechanics, is just a question in a place that questions are allowed to be posted. He didn't even type an actual swear (at least, not with that edit). Hope that helps. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:31, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
::::It does, but at the same time, it doesn't. I know user talk pages are open to editing by anyone at anytime. I know that in most cases, it isn't considered trolling (see the references to [[User:pertmywert|pertmywert]]). However, in this case, I believe said person went out of their way to cause trouble (otherwise he/she/it wouldn't have brought up an incident that happened over A YEAR PRIOR), and in this case deserved to be reported as a troll. But whatever. You guys, I'm sure, have better things to do than worry about this. My point is still this: if it looks like a troll, smells like a troll, and acts like a troll, it's a troll. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 04:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== NSMC ==
can someone tell me what NSMC means? i apologise for my non-wikiknowledge [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 02:32, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

N***** Stole my Cow. He was a troll bot that caused massive damage round here. That is why annony's need t use cathpa now. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:33, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:cathpa? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 02:36, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
::The code of letters and numbers that annonys have to correctly enter in in order to edit. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 02:41, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:what kind of damage did nsmc do? not pages but number of pages
::He hit more than 800 pages, I believe. In an extremely short amount of time. I watched it happen; I helped revert it. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
::how wasnt he banned? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 02:55, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:::The reason we couldn't jump right in and ban him was because he made so many edits he caused the whole wiki to go down for a short while. He had an ever-shifting proxy IP, and took a while to ban all of them... I'm sure someone else can explain it much better than I... --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::if he was just a ip why do u call him nsmc?[[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 03:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:That's just a general term we use to describe the massive amount of troll bots that attacked that day. <small>Or something like that.</small> {{User:Has Matt?/sig}} 03:13, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
::then why do u call it that specifically? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 03:15, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
:::His main method of operation was to entirely blank a page, replacing it with "N**** Stole My Cow". Hence the moniker, NSMC. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]
:::how did he blank so fast? [[User:Ciberdude444|Ciberdude444]] 03:20, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

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