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User talk:Phlip/Greasemonkey

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==Troubleshooting==
If the script doesn't seem to be working for you, please try:
#If you have Adblock, Flashblock, or similar addons installed, disable them on homestarrunner.com.
#Reinstalling the script, by clicking [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Phlip/Greasemonkey&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&fakeextension=.user.js this link].
#Uninstalling Greasemonkey (from the Tools menu in Firefox, choose Add-ons, then go to the Extensions section, click Greasemonkey, then Uninstall), and then reinstall it (from [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748 here]). You'll probably need to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Phlip/Greasemonkey&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&fakeextension=.user.js install the script] again.
If you're still having problems after that, ''then'' ask for help on this page. Be sure to mention what versions of Firefox and Flash you have, and what other extensions you have installed. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

==Release notes==
===Version 1.0 (8 Mar, 2006)===
*First released version.
*Had the fullscreen, seek bar, prev/next and wiki link features.
*Worked only on the main site.
===Version 2.0 (26 May, 2006)===
*Added the preferences menu.
*Added support for Videlectrix and the HRWiki mirror.
*Added "outside the frame", April Fools and plain HTML navbar options.
===Version 2.1 (8 Aug, 2006)===
*Tooltips in the preferences box.
*The "more better" rando link is now always on... the less better version was just ugly, so I removed it.
*You can set what types of toon are included in the rando selection.
*You have the option to make it check if the next sbemail/whatever actually exists before putting the "next" link (so there's no "next" link on the latest email).
**The only reason this wasn't there before is that it means an extra hit to the H*R servers... but now that I have the preferences things set up, so you can turn it on or off, I think that's fine.
===Version 3.0 (29 Aug, 2006)===
*Added [[HRWiki:Subtitles|subtitling]] functionality.
*Updating no longer requires uninstalling the previous version.
===Version 3.1 (27 Sep, 2006)===
*Whether to show the names next to subtitles is now a distinct setting from the one for colours - you can have neither, either or both.
*There is a button that will purge the local cache for all subtitles-related files downloaded from the wiki and reload the page, for when the cache is out of date.
*The ability to update the test subtitles without refreshing the page for every change (NB: disabled by default, see [[#Refresh Subtitles|below]]).
*Rewind and fast forward buttons on the seek bar to go to the first/last frame, respectively.
*Flash loading progress bar on the seek bar (see how much it's loaded).
===Version 3.2 (25 Sep, 2007)===
*Add option to automatically check for script updates (on by default).

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==Suggestion==
Would it make sense to change line 272 to
<pre> addHRWikiLink("Index_Page");</pre>
Then I suppose line 261 could be removed. By the way, ''amazing'' work Phlip. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:25, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I suggest that the games on videlectrix.com should be added, such as
<pre>http://www.videlectrix.com/duckguard1.html
http://videlectrix.com/duckguard1.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/racewalk.html
http://videlectrix.com/racewalk.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/hallrunner.html
http://videlectrix.com/hallrunner.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/lcd_game.html
http://videlectrix.com/lcd_game.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/thydungeonman2.html
http://videlectrix.com/thydungeonman2.html</pre>
And yeah, you rock. [[User:Libertyernie|Libertyernie]] 16:32, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:Hmm, that's a good point... I'll get on that sometime <s>(probably tomorrow)</s>. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:37, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
::The reason I thought of this was because I realized the Pause button on the seekbar can be used for skipping a level in Duck Guardian. [[User:Libertyernie|Libertyernie]] 21:47, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
==Homestar-Fullon Edit==
Using the user script I was getting a scrollbar on every page, so I edited line 411 from
<pre>var dh = window.innerHeight - 10;</pre>
to
<pre>var dh = window.innerHeight - 20;</pre>
This kept all the content in the window, but I didn't have to scroll down to see the navbar at the bottom. Did this happen to anyone else? [[User:Consonance|Consonance]] 08:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
:Not me. Works perfectly for me. --{{User:X-Spider2/X-Sigger2}} 03:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

==Eventual to-do list==
(in no particular order)
*{{done}} General cleanup of the code.
*{{done}} Work on Videlectrix.
*{{done}} Work on the mirrors (<s>[http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/ kitkorp]</s> ''(not needed with Tom working on completing the HRWiki mirror)'' and [[Mirror:|HRWiki]]).
*{{done}} Some way of turning various features on and off maybe?
**{{done}} Only if I get this working, replace the flash files with [[April Fools 2006|theyCallHimFlipper.swf]].
*{{done}} replace the navbar with text links (this is more for me than for you guys).
*{{done}} resize the seek bar when the toon resizes (if you resize the window)
*{{done}} show outside-the-frame stuff
Feel free to add suggestions. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

:I've got one. You could try "flipping the ''whole page'' upside down". You know, using the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperMainNav.swf?contentURL=main_nav.swf flipped navbar], too. And putting the navbar above the flipped toon/game. 
:Also, you could try adding A-B repeat to the seek bar, if you know enough to do that. Preferably make it a seperate sub-option in the prefs, too.
:[[do over|Totally not getting old]], {{User:X-Spider2/X-Sigger2}} 22:57, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
:I have a suggestion/request. If you could make a "play all sbemails in order" type of function, that would be really awesome. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/69.249.241.164|69.249.241.164]] 18:13, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

== Errors in installing ==

I keep getting this error: 
Error installing user script: 
 
[Exception... "Compoment returned failure code: 0x804b000a [nsIIOService.newChannel]" nsresult: "0x804b000a (<unknown>)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://strongbademailsprevnext/content/browser.xul :: getContents :: line 20" data: no] 
 
Any suggestions? {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 07:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
:"strongbademailsprevnext"? I'm guessing you have [https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1695/ this extension] installed? You might want to uninstall that... this script does that stuff too. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
::<s>Nope. I only have the script that allows it to be viewed 'full-screen'. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 22:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)</s>
::Nevermind. Turns out that they were both conflicting and I was misinterpreting the second error message. Thanks! {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 22:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 
Just as a side-note for people who run into the same problem I did: if you use a program that blends its own Javascript functions into every page you load (mainly found in ad-munching software, like Ad Muncher), make sure you disable it BEFORE installing the Greasemonkey script. Otherwise the extra code might break it, requiring you to clear your cache and install it again with the filters disabled. [[User:MNGoldenEagle|MNGoldenEagle]] 14:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

== HOW THE HECK!?!?!?!?! ==

HOW DID YOU MAKE THIS!?!?! {{User:The thing/sig}} 00:36, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

:Phlip has studied necromancy and sorcery for many years now. Other than that, it's a good diet, exercise, and a modicum of good fortune. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:44, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

::Phlip has access to both a monkey and a typewriter, so it really was only a [[Wikipedia:Infinite monkey theorem|matter of time]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:46, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

:::No, no, no... I sold my soul to Haxxina, ancient Greek goddess of programming and ruler of the underworld. In return She gave me the ability to write this script as my superpower. Just don't make me say my name backwards minus the first 'P' and we should be fine. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:52, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

::::We'll be out a free [[lunch special]]? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:58, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

== Refresh Subtitles ==
OK, this feature will need some explaining... First, go Tools→Manage User Scripts, click on "Homestar All-in-one" and click "Edit". If it asks you to choose a text editor, just pick Notepad unless you have something better. It'll look ugly in Notepad (it doesn't recognise the line endings) but it'll work. Now search for <code>if (settings.testsubs && false)</code> and change it to <code>if (settings.testsubs && true)</code>. Now you can use the feature. First you have to turn on "Test subtitles" and hit "Save and apply" as usual, but the next time after the page loads there'll be a "Refresh Subtitles" button below the text area, that re-parses the subtitles without reloading the page - invaluable to subtitle authors.

The reasons the option's not avaliable by default are:
*The interface is clumsy... sometimes the button's there, sometimes it's not there... depending on whether the test subtitles were already enabled before the page loaded... given it's something that's supposed to update stuff without a page load it can be confusing.
*It's not exhaustively tested, and has some weird side-effects (it calls <code>savesettings</code>, so if you, say, turn off the seekbar and hit "Reload Subtitles" the seekbar will remain, but it'll save that you want the seekbar turned off)...
*It's not permanent... Version 4.0 will hopefully make it so that ''all'' settings work like this, and clicking "Save and Apply" won't have to reload the page.
So it's there if you want it, but it's not cluttering up the settings boxes of people that don't want it.

Anyways, enjoy! {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== Greasemonkey install method ==
GM's changed the way it installs scripts by link. A single-click on the link will offer to install the script, the option isn't even on the right click menu anymore. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 17:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== Just the seek bar ==

Maybe for use on other sites, you could individually release the code for the seekbar. (And, if possible, include the preferences from the whole script, plus maybe external CSS skin support.) --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 04:00, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

== spellcheck ==

"Homestar" is misspelled in the warning section of the heap-o-comments at the beginning. Page is locked or I'd fix it myself. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:08, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

== Uniformity matters... again ==

Since "podcast" was added recently to the navbar, can you please update that? --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 20:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:Done. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:54, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

== Is it just me or is this broken? ==

One day the fullon part stopped working for me. And the Subtitles. And the seek bar. The corner buttons are still there. --[[User:68.55.198.213|68.55.198.213]] 11:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
:It's still working fine for me. What did you do the day that it broke? Did you install any other extensions, or scripts, or upgrade anything? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:03, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

::So It's just me. That's good to know. I poked around in the system, and determined an update to flashblock borked it. I normally don't unblock flash (even for homestarrunner.com). Adding it to the whitelist fixed the problem. Before that update, they both worked together. Thanks, and I hope this info helps someone.--[[User:68.55.198.213|68.55.198.213]] 13:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

== Not working in nightly build =( ==

In the nightly build of Firefox (Dubbed Minefield), the script has limited functionality.
The subtitle language selector doesn't work, as there are no options. I will try to clean up to make it work..right.

[[User:Onekopaka|onekopaka]] 02:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:By design, if subtitles are turned off, the script doesn't contact the wiki at all. When you turn the subtitles on, it tries to download the [[Subtitles:Languages|list of supported languages]] then. The list is empty until that finishes (I suppose I should put a "Loading..." message in there...). So wait a bit, see if it turns up. Failing that, it is a nightly build after all, you should expect some things to be broken... the name "Minefield" isn't just for show... chances are, it's a problem with either <code>GM_xmlhttpRequest</code> or <code>DOMParser</code>... and if so, then it's either a Firefox issue or a GreaseMonkey issue, and there's little I can do about it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:15, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::After looking in a Debug Console, the blame goes to..... Greasemonkey! [[User:Onekopaka|onekopaka]] 06:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Firefox 3's document.getElementById is changed so that it returns the first object. If you're using it, you might want to read up on MDC (http://developer.mozilla.org/) --[[User:24.17.113.45|24.17.113.45]] 06:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Typo... ==

You mispelled automatically. [[User:Don't press that button.|Don't press that button.]] 10:08, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
:I somehow think that's [[Portmanteau|intentional]]. {{User:Mee/sig}} 11:05, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
::If you're referring to "[http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/A/automagically.html automagically]", then yes, that's intentional. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:24, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Podcast/Podstar ==

<pre> addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/toons.html", "Toons");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/games.html", "Games");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/characters2.html", "Characters");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/downloads.html", "Downloads");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://homestarrunner.stores.yahoo.net/", "Store");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html", "SB Emails");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/email.html", "Contact");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/", "Podstar");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/legal.html", "Legal");
randolink = addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "javascript:alert('rando.xml not loaded yet... be patient')", "Rando");</pre>

Where it says Podstar, it should say Podcast. On main_nav.swf, it says podcast. Here, is says Podstar. Incorrect. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 19:00, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:The feature is called [[Podstar Runner]], though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:48, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
::My bad. Fixed. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, but if the purpose is to simulate the real main_mav bar, then it should be podcast. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 01:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. That's why I fixed it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:26, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Ah. You posted while I was still posting. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 22:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== Just a question... ==

Are you ever going to put this in the [http://dunck.us/collab/GreaseMonkeyUserScriptsSpecific#head-afce957a390e4b53ef2a03b41fd1b4c04a5f926b Greasemonkey Script Repository?] Just wondering... --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 18:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, that's the old Greasemonkey script place thing. The new one is at [http://www.userscripts.org/ userscripts.org]. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 19:00, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

== not working ==

i installed greasemonkey but there isnt anything under tools. you do mean tools that is above the adress bar, right? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 22:57, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== Tablet stuff ==

Hey, this is a really neat script. Anyway, I use a tablet computer, and I've noticed that, when viewing a toon in portrait (tall) mode, the toon will cover up the top two buttons ("settings" and "wiki") if the script is set to scale the toon to full size. This is, I imagine, because the script expects the screen to be wider than it is tall, as most computer screens are... so when that is not the case, the toon sticks around the top of the page and covers up those key buttons. This doesn't happen in normal, "landscape" mode because the toon is horizontally centered across a wide screen. If the toon were vertically centered as well, or at least nudged sixteen pixels downward when on a tall screen, those buttons and their inherent usefulness would be unveiled for all. ("Landscape" mode is, of course, the better option for viewing Homestar Runner, but I think this would be a pretty good fix nonetheless.)

There are some other things: in Firefox 3.0 beta 4, the seek bar extends too far to the right, visually (covering up the buttons to its right), and does not seem to work for changing your place in the toon. Also, the script never seems to be able to load subtitles, perpetually leaving "loading" in place of subtitle options in the pulldown menu. Oh, and the "settings" bar has most of its scrollbar obscured by the toon, oddly, though it still works.

I hope this helps in working out any kinks. If nobody else can reproduce these errors, I can provide more details. Anyway, thanks![[User:24.22.64.228|24.22.64.228]] 05:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

== 30 Frames fix? ==

For some reason, with the SBCG4AP "ad," the seek bar doesn't work at all. It counts the frame, but all the buttons (besides the zoom) doesn't work. --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 21:08, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:This has nothing to do with the high framerate (which is 24 anyway, not 30), and everything to do with the fact that the HTML file is on homestarrunner.com, but the flash file is on Telltale's servers... Flash's security gets in the way, and there's nothing that can be done about it. Best I can do is make it so that the seekbar is disabled on that toon (or, at least, make it more obvious that it's informative only, and you can't use it to control the playback). Which I'm working on. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:53, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

== 3.2.3 broken in FF 2? ==

I can't get the subtitles if I upgrade to 3.2.3. I'm using FF 2. I see that it was changed for tweaks for Firefox 3...did you notice that it breaks it in FF 2? I don't think a version that breaks it in the current version of Firefox should be released to the update. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 16:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:Oops... I didn't think to regression-test the changes in Fx 2... yeah, that doesn't work. The deal is that, in an earlier version of GreaseMonkey, DOMParser wasn't available for GM scripts to use... and you had to use some workaround to get at it. That workaround didn't work in Fx 3, but the site I got it from listed another option that did. Turns out that other option doesn't work in Fx 2. It also turns out that the workaround isn't necessary at all any more. It's gone now, and the script works in both Fx 2 and 3 (it should auto-update again in the next day or so). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks, it works now. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 14:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== Trouble dragging in FF3 ==

If you try to drag the seek bar, but are already moving the mouse when you start dragging (move it faster if it doesn't do it for you), it messes up. By messes up, I mean it flashes the cursor between a circular crossout symbol and the normal cursor as you hold it down (still moving the movie as you move), then when you release, it keeps following your mouse until you click on it again. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 20:04, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:Huh. That's... bizzare. I get a similar thing, but instead of the cursor-flashing thing you're saying, it actually starts dragging around a slightly-shrunk picture of the seekbar, and sometimes some of the surrounding buttons. I'll look into it (which I guess means I'll need to figure out how the drag-and-drop stuff in the seekbar actually works, since I didn't write that... that'll be "fun"). In the meantime: Don't do that. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::"In the meantime: Don't do that." lol yeah...It's just that I do it accidentally pretty often now, and it's annoying. I'll try to avoid it in the meantime, though. Thanks for looking into it. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 14:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:::OK, this is fixed, I think. I never found a way to reproduce it reliably, but I think I could get it about one try in 3 or 4... and I tried about 20 times now, and I can't get it to happen... let me know if it still happens for you. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
::::It seems to work now. It hasn't happened since I updated. The random button now shows the correct tooltip. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 21:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

== Plain HTML Rando Not Working in FF3? ==

I am finding if I used the plain HTML navbar with the script, it is not working and I get a dialog box saying "rando.xml has not loaded yet. Be Patient." from homestarrunner.com. Is this an issue with the official site, or did something in FF3 break it?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 22:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:It works for me, but shows the wrong URL when I roll over it. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 16:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::The wrong-URL thing should be fixed now. Things were happening in the wrong order... the tooltip and the page it would send you to if you clicked matched, but the URL in the status bar was from the previous selection... I tweaked the timing a bit, so this doesn't happen any more. I couldn't reproduce the infinite "has not loaded yet" thing... try clicking the "Clear Subtitles Cache" button in the preferences screen... the same button will clear the rando.xml cache, forcing it to really try again to download it from the server. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

== Subtitles broken ==

I'm on Firefox 3, with Adblock Plus (disabled on h*r.com and hrwiki.org), and the subtitles don't appear. I check "Show subtitles" in the options, and a list of languages appears, but when I go to anything that has subtitles - I tested it on [[Play Date]] - I get a "loading subtitles" message which disappears after a second or so. Other features like the seek bar work fine. Thanks in advance, [[Special:Contributions/24.250.112.127|24.250.112.127]] 23:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Works fine on 2.0.0.14, the latest stable build. I don't know if it's worth Phlip's time to develop for the beta, but you could revert to the stable build and it'll work. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:09, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::IP Guy: I had the same problem, but then I reinstalled the script and tested it by watching [[The Baloneyman]], and now the subtitles work again.
::Qermaq: the latest stable build is actually 3.0.0. --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 07:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, what do you know, must have been quite recently. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Update: I find the Greasemonkey extension is working flawlessly on my install of Firefox 3. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:42, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::I found that disabling AdBlock Plus for homestarrunner sites worked for me. --Rovlad.

I was about to report a problem with this, but I forgot about having to disable Adblock to get the subtitles working, even on the latest build. I'm installing Firefox in Ubuntu, and I though the crappy flash plugin was the problem.

Anyways, you may want to make this advice more prominent, in some sort of FAQ. (If you have already, well, I couldn't find it.)

--trlkly 23:48, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


== How'd you get the icon data? ==

I noticed that your icons are embedded in the script as base64 data. If you used an encoder program, which one was it? --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 00:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:It's pretty simple... just convert the picture to PNG (I use The GIMP for that... any web-friendly image format will work, but PNG is best), then [[Wikipedia:Base64|Base64]]-ify the PNG file (I just use the tool in [http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/coreutils coreutils]), and tack "<code>data:image/png;base64,</code>" on the start, then use the string as the URL for the image. Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:data URI scheme|more info]]. I'm sure there exists some online tools that let you upload files and generate the data: URIs for them... try Google. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Seekbar ==

I can't get the seekbar to work. Every time I click anywhere on it it just goes back to the beginning of the toon. I know nothing about code, mind you, so I have no idea how to fix this. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:32, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nevermind. I changed some of my Firefox settings and it works now. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:37, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
what did you do, i have the same problem [[User:Forddude1416|Forddude1416]] 19:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

== Screencapture ==

How do I get a screen capture in Ubuntu Linux? --[[User:O98-111-114-113|Blow Up the Ocean]] 20:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:This may vary (it's been a while since I used Gnome), but I believe that alt-Print Screen grabs the focused window, and Print Screen by itself grabs the entire desktop. It will either prompt you for a filename to save it as, or just save it automatically on your Desktop. It will be in PNG format, which is probably want you want. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 21:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Test subtitles script and back button ==

I do a lot of subtitle work (the AIO makes it about a million times easier/possible, BTW :) ) and so I often use the "Test subtitles script" feature to preview my scripts before I save 'em. The problem is that I usually forget to uncheck the box, so when I go to another toon, it displays the wrong subtitles. Not a big deal, of course, as I can go into the options and uncheck the box, but it's an annoyance. It'd be nice if it automatically unchecks the box. Possibly make it uncheck when you load a different toon. 
Also, if you have outside-the-frame action enabled and press the back/forward button (in the browser, not the next/previous button) to go to a page, it loads it full-screen instead of showing outside-the-frame action. 
Oh and BTW I just noticed there's a feature to zoom in/out of the toon when it's full screened, but not when it shows outside-the-frame action. Can you add that feature in outside-the-frame mode, too?
--[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 16:22, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
:The "Test subtitles script" option needs some serious rework anyway... I'd like the "Refresh subtitles" button to Just Work, rather than the sort of inconsistent mess it is now. Being able to give test subtitles for just one specific toon is a good idea... I'll add it to the list of things to do when I get around to doing that.
:The back/forward buttons and outside-the-frame: I hadn't noticed that... I'll look into it. Does everything else work with back/forward?
:As for the zoom buttons and outside-the-frame, if you use the Zoom things in Flash, then it stops doing the outside-the-frame thing... you can't zoom out further than how it behaves when you view the SWF alone (ie: either the height or width matches the height or width of your window, whichever is smaller)... and there's no way to go back to the outside-the-frame mode except by resetting it to the usual outside-the-frame size. I couldn't find any way around this... so I just got rid of the zoom buttons when that option's turned on. If you happen to know of a workaround, I'd love to hear it... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:41, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
::Ok, cool. I don't mean that I really care to see toon-specific subs that are remembered with different pages, in case that's what you thought. I just want it to be cleared when I go to a page besides the one being tested.
::I haven't noticed anything else wrong with back/forward. I've noticed that when a page loads normally, it's momentarily enlarged to full screen before it's changed to show outside-the-frame, but that when you do back/forward it doesn't change. Perhaps it's something with how FF tells scripts that the page has loaded when it comes in from memory (since it was in recent history) instead of loading for the first time. I should probably also note that when it's zoomed out after going back/forward, I can still see outside-the-frame action, but of course since it's already full-screen, I only see it on the edges (instead of being like the normal full screen mode that puts black on the sides, this allows vision on the sides).
::Do you think you could make it so if it's already at the max zoom out level, instead of just trying to tell the SWF to zoom out more (unsuccessfully), make it refresh as outside-the-frame in some way so it goes back out? Of course, that would preferably be without ''actually'' refreshing the page, so your place isn't lost like when you save a setting. This could eliminate the need for an outside-the-frame option, since if you want to zoom out when it's already all the way out, it goes to outside-the-frame, while zooming in while viewing outside-the-frame would go to full screen.
::I just got an idea to fix the issue that when you save settings it refreshes the page (more of a workaround really, something that does it without refreshing at all would be better). Let it refresh, but first remember the frame you're at and the pause/unpause status (is there anything else that would be needed to make it seem the same?) and set it to that once it refreshes. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 01:27, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

== Latest java build ==

Seems this script is incompatable with the latest Java version. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:08, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:Can you be more specific? Neither this script, nor Homestarrunner.com use Java in any way... {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 03:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

::I beg to differ. I upgraded to the most recent Java and it asked me to deactivate this. I tied to reinstall, but it does not work. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:59, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Can you still be more specific? Asked you to disabled this specific userscript, or Greasemonkey in general? Do you know the exact wording of the message? What version of Java did you update to? I just checked mine and it was at 1.6.0_04, there was an update available (to 1.6.0_07), which I just installed, restarted Firefox (and confirmed it was using the new version), and I did not see any change in the behaviour at all.
:::I'm still pretty sure Java isn't used directly here (in fact, I'm certain it isn't). But, it is possible that the Java installation changed something in the browsers security model that is messing things up. I'll try updating it on another computer tomorrow and see if I get the problem to happen there. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 05:07, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

::::Are you on a Mac? It appears to be broken on my Mac... but, it's past my bedtime right now. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 05:14, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::I am still unable to install this script. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:23, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::And I am still unable to even guess as to what your problem is... Can you answer GreenHelmet's questions above? They'll help narrow down the problem. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I am not certain how to check the Java version. I did go to the Java site and install the latest version. Greasemonkey itself seems to be properly installed, though I don't know how I can test that. Running Vista. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Hmm... can you try something for me... run notepad, and type in this:
<pre>// ==UserScript==
// @name GM Test Thing
// @description Check that Greasemonkey is working
// @include http://homestarrunner.com/*
// @include http://www.homestarrunner.com/*
// ==/UserScript==
alert("Greasemonkey's working");</pre>
::::::::Save it somewhere as "test.user.js" (include the quotes, when you type it into Notepad's "Save As" box, otherwise it'll save it as test.user.js.txt). Then open that file in Firefox, let it install the script, and go to [[HR:]]. You should get a message box coming up saying that GM's working. If not, there's something wrong with GM on your end... try uninstalling and reinstalling it. Otherwise, let me know, and I'll have to make a more detailed test. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I reinstalled Greasemonkey, and everything seems to be in order now. Something must have gotten goofed up on installation before. Thanks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:03, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== Script doesn't seem to work ==

I'm running Firefox 3, and none of the buttons, scrollbar[s], or subtitles work. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 22:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm... could you try out the things listed in the [[#Troubleshooting|brand new Troubleshooting section]]? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::Phlip, maybe you should move step 3 up to step 1? It might save some people unnecessary work ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 16:27, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Good point... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Firefox 3 does have its own downs, because Adblock Plus doesn't conflict with the script in Firefox '''2''' but does in 3. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 19:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you! ==

This thing is awesome. [[User:HomsarGuy|HomsarGuy]] 13:16, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks and feature suggestion ==

Hey! Thanks for making this script! It really makes watching H*R much easier (and better)!
 I would like to suggest a feature - it would be great to have an automatic 'next' feature to play through a whole series (like SBemail) or to play random through the whole site. This way we could watch sequential H*R without being near a mouse. (I don't know if this would infringe on the value of the SBemail DVDs) -[[User:Dutchscout|Dutchscout]] 05:48, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== Page-Overwrite? ==

It's been on my mind lately; would it be possible to get the script to overwrite the loaded Flash file on a page, or just replace the content of a page without creating security issues with Flash? In some cases, it could be helpful, as with being able to run subtitles on certain Puppet Stuff toons that don't have their own HTML page, like [[Marshie vs. Little Girl]]. We could use [[HR:default.html|default.html]] as a "dummy page", and using a URL referrer of "<code>overwrite=whateverflashhere.swf</code>" (which would be picked up by the script, not the page), would overwrite the page with your usual Homestar Runner toon-viewing code, with the Flash file in place of the usual "toon placeholder" itself? (I hope that made sense) --[[Special:Contributions/70.253.165.204|70.253.165.204]] 00:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Script broke. ==

Your Greasemonkey script doesn't work. I am using Minefield 3.2a1pre and Flash Player 10. I also modified Greasemonkey to make it work with Minefield. {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 08:11, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:Try everything in the [[#Troubleshooting|Troubleshooting section]]. If that doesn't help, read through [http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html this] and try again. Incidentally, "Minefield" has that codename for a reason... that Greasemonkey works at all (especially after you modified it) should be considered a stroke of luck. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== 2 things ==

1:Thanks!I really wanted a bigger screen.
2:Is it possible to make it work with the [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com kitkorp] mirror?

== subtitles stopped working ==

I just noticed it today. I used it and it worked fine the other day. It seems that the script isn't finding the list of languages at [[Subtitles:Languages]] (the Subtitles Language select box doesn't have any entries). I do have AdBlock Plus but disabled it temporarily with no change. I'm using Firefox 3.0.11 with Greasemonkey 0.8.20090123.1 and the newest All-in-one script from [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey]] (3.2.7). Perhaps it's related to "We will be making adjustments to the server throughout the evening, including upgrading to MediaWiki 1.15."? See also [[HRWiki_talk:Subtitles#Subitles_Not_Working?]] --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 03:11, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
:It's related to the [[HRWiki:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.15|new upgrade]] and the move to the /wiki/ URLs... it should be fixed now. The script should automatically prompt you to update it sometime in the next day or so, or you can just hit the install link on [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|the script page]] to do it yourself. If you're still not getting subtitles, it could be because you hit the "Save" or "Clear cache" buttons in the config panel while the subtitles were broken... in that case, just open up the config panel, make sure that the "language" option is set, and hit save. That should bring them back. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:27, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks, it works now. :) --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 20:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== sbemail201 & hremail3184 ==

Someone needs to fix the back/forward links for the Sbemails, because Sbemail #201 is actually Hremail #3184 in the URL!!! {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 22:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Not Compatible with Firefox 3? ==

Ever since upgrading to FF3, this script hasn't been working at all.
:I'm running Firefox 3.5 (on Windows) and it's working fine for me (it worked fine for me on 3.0). Did you try the troubleshooting options [[#Troubleshooting|listed above]]? I've had problems with AdBlock plus so I added an exception to [[homestarrunner.com|hr.com]], [[Main Page|hrwiki.org]] and [[videlectrix]]. If they don't work, can you provide more information regarding your problem? (Such as what platform and how does the script fail?) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:18, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

::I got it. I had to reinstall Greasemonkey, then update it, then reinstall the HR script.

== Some code for a more streamlined "Hide" ability ==

This is one way that crossed my mind. You'd have to replace the two lines in transcriptLoaded:

<pre>line.text = importNodes(lines[i]);
transcript.push(line);</pre>

With this:

<pre>var hideEnds = true;
for (var j = lines[i].firstChild; j; j = j.nextSibling)
{
// Looks for a "hide" element, and divides the line into two if one is found.
if(j.nodeType == j.ELEMENT_NODE && j.nodeName.toLowerCase() == "hide" && hideEnds)
{
// If no frame number is specified, make the last frame of hiding really big, so it never stops hiding
var hideUntil = 100000;
if(j.hasAttribute("frame"))
{
hideUntil = parseInt(j.getAttribute("frame"), 10);
if(isNaN(hideUntil) && settings.TestSubs)
transcriptError("Hide frame \"" + j.getAttribute("frame") + "\" is not a number");
}
if(hideUntil < line.start && settings.TestSubs)
{
transcriptError("Hide frame \"" + j.getAttribute("frame") + "\" is too early");
}
var firstLine = line;
if(hideuntil < line.end)
{
firstLine.end = hideuntil;
}
else
{
hideEnds = false;
}
j.setNodeName("span");
j.setAttribute("visibility", "hidden");
firstLine.text = importNodes(lines[i]);
transcript.push(firstLine);
j.setAttribute("visibility", "visible");
line.start = hideuntil;
}
}
if(hideEnds)
{
line.text = importNodes(lines[i]);
transcript.push(line);
}</pre>

I'm kinda shaky on the programming language and its nuances, though. Especially "setNodeName", or whether "span" would work without a "/span" (or if adding a "/span" is possible). Also, it's very possible I made a mistake.

If it works, though, it should allow you to add <hide frame="123" /> and it would hide everything after it on a line until frame 123. You wouldn't have to put in multiple lines that way. Even a <hide/> tag should just simply hide everything else on the line, period (unless the toon becomes 100000+ frames in length AND the line comes after that point, but that hasn't happened yet and probably will never.)

Thoughts? Fixes? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:31, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

: PS. Another useful addition would be the ability to write overlapping lines separately and have them all display. Would be useful for when characters semi-interrupt or speak over one another. [[Crystal Fortress]]'s subs were a pain to write without this feature. I don't have code for it, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:56, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::Also for sound effects that are shorter than the dialogue, etc. Perhaps though it should be a different element called "<nowiki><overlap></nowiki>" with the same syntax as line, just to keep the error checking for people who don't intend to overlap lines. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::That <hide> tag sounds like a good idea, that's definitely going on my todo list. Maybe not the way you describe, though... rather than just having the empty tag hide everything from here to the end of the line, have something like "<code>first part <hide frame="100">second part</hide></code>"... it'd make more sense, I think, and be easier to code up. Maybe it should have <code>start</code> and <code>end</code> attributes instead, so things can disappear instead of appearing? Optional, of course, so you can have just a <code>start</code> and no <code>end</code>, and have it behave like you describe.
:::As for overlapping lines, it's something that I've considered before, but never really looked into, as it could be kinda tricky. In particular, arranging the lines... if you have two lines at once, and the first one ends, you want the second one to stay on the second line, with a gap above it (it could move upwards, but that'd be confusing)... and then, if a third line starts, it'd make sense to put it in the gap above the second line... but it may not fit, if it's a long line that word-wraps, or has the <code>volume</code> attribute turned up, or something. So there's an optimisation problem there to arrange all the lines without it being so tall that it runs out of space. But I may be overthinking it here, and a greedy heuristic is probably enough. I'll try it, and see what happens.
:::But don't hold your breath for either of these... I can't guarantee how long they'll take to write... what with the full-time work and all, I'm often not in the mood for programming outside work... but we'll see. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:58, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::::We could create a <code>lineindex</code> attribute to fix that problem. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 14:21, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Not really... maybe if every line was exactly the same height, it'd work, but that's not necessarily the case, with <code>volume</code> and word-wrap. Indeed, with word-wrap, the same line could be different heights on different computers, even with the same subtitles script. Much better to have a dynamic solution. It'd be less work for the transcribers that way anyway, which is kinda the point of this whole thing. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Midori Web Browser ==

You probably don't use linux but, your script does not work with midori's built in userscript engine. I want it to work with midori but do not know why it isn't working. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:11, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:The script uses a bunch of GreaseMonkey-specific features, for things like saving the preferences or loading subtitles from the wiki. From [http://wiki.xfce.org/midori_faq#user_scripts what I can tell], Midori doesn't support any of those (note the part that says "Midori also does not support greasemonkey's api"). I looked into it briefly before, when I was considering supporting Opera... but without those features, it would be a lot of work. Maybe I'll take another look in the future, but don't hold your breath. (Incidentally: Yes, I do use Linux.) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::I don't need preferences if I can just have a userscript that does the following:
::* Stretches the flash
::* Check if next toon exists
::* Has the seek bar
::But I guess it's still not possible. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:48, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Like I said, it would be a heck of a lot of work to retrofit the script to not depend on Greasemonkey. That includes stripping out the script so that only some features are available - all the different features are pretty interconnected at the moment, it's hard to remove just one of them. It's my long-term plan to clean up the script and make it simpler to manage, but that's been my long-term plan since before the subtitles thing started 3 years ago, and I still haven't even started, so don't hold your breath. And anyway, that "check if the next toon exists" thing is one of the things that depends on the GM API, so even if I could quickly strip down the features, I couldn't do that one easily.
:::However! You might have some luck with the original scripts that the all-in-one script was based on. I suspect that the [http://userscripts.org/scripts/review/633 Homestar Full-on] ''could'' work in other browsers that have userscript features... I haven't tried it, but it looks like it could work (it doesn't depend on GreaseMonkey, but it might implicitly depend on Firefox, that's harder to tell just by looking at the script). The [https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/flash.html seek bar] bookmarklet might work, it might not. Try it and see. Obviously, if they don't work, there's not much I can do about it, but it's worth a shot. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:41, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, they unfortunately do not work. The seek bar bookmarklet gives an error even (1 @ undefined) Oh well. I'll just use my display in 1024x768, since my screen is square and not widescreen. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 22:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::WHOA! It works now! The fullon I mean. (It sometimes causes the flashes to be blank, reloading the page fixes that.) {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 01:17, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

=== Revisiting Midori With 0.2.4 ===
Well, the fullon resizes the flash, but now refreshing won't fix the blank flash box. Oh well, guess I'll have to watch it small. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 00:00, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Feedburner ==

Yeah, the navbar on greasemonkey doesn't show the 'subscribe' button. Just saying. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 21:10, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
:{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Phlip/Greasemonkey&diff=681479&oldid=660845 Yes it does}}. Are you sure your script is up to date? It has an option to check for updates automatically, but maybe you've turned that off? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:18, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
::Huh, don't know why it was off. I don't '''''think''''' I turned it off. weird. Thanks! {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 21:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

== Opening as plain text ==

Firefox = check, Greasemonkey = go, and it worked a couple of weeks ago. But the Greasemonkey stuff vanished from H*R, oh, about the time the "visit our store" link appeared on it. I uninstalled and reinstalled Greasemonkey, but when I try clicking on the "click here to install" link, all it does is open the script ''in plain text'' instead of installing the script to Greasemonkey. I tried saving the script to my desktop and running it there, but it complains that, on character 1 of line 122, "document" is undefined. Um? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:15, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
:If you save it and just try to run it, it'll do [[Wikipedia:Windows Script Host|something completely different]]... that's not going to work. You might have some luck if you save it to disk and then open it in Firefox (as opposed to just double-clicking it) but it'll probably do the same thing. Is Greasemonkey enabled? Check the little monkey in the status bar, he should be all colourful and smiley (as opposed to greyscale and frowney). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:55, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
:: That was it, actually. Thanks! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

== Chrome Now Can Install... but... ==

You need to install [http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/5166 from here] instead. Unfortunately, even though Chrome has the greasemonkey APIs, your extension, Philip, doesn't work. the only portion that DOES work is the flyout settings menu when looking at a homestarrunner.com page. None of the settings can actually be saved. You need a git or development version of chrome to be able to install the script I believe, and that's easily done on ubuntu using the chromium daily ppa from launchpad. However, as said by [http://blog.chromium.org/2010/02/40000-more-extensions.html this blog] about the new feature, you will most likely have to edit your script so it works with chrome. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:50, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, I know, both Chrome and Opera and a couple of other browsers have user script engines, but most of them don't have the power necessary to run this script (neither Opera nor Chrome for instance allow cross-site AJAX requests, which are required for subtitles, rando and check-for-updates) and even the features they do have, you need to use in a different way (eg Opera doesn't have the GM_* functions, so I'd need to re-write all the preference-saving and AJAX code using other APIs). This doesn't make it ''impossible'' to make a script this complicated that will work in all these browsers... but it means it'd be a ''lot'' of work to retrofit an existing script to work.
:tl;dr: Only Firefox is supported for the foreseeable future. Like I [[#Midori_Web_Browser|said to you before]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:38, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::I just wanted to make sure that when other people ask why your script doesn't work with chrome (as, in the foreseeable future, I see chrome overtaking firefox due to google's advertising and whatnot) that they know what you have planned for the future. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 01:12, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Eating Up CPU ==

Just to warn people who have non-HT Single Core Processors (true single-cores, meaning no logical cores.) I have a 1.60 GHz true single-core processor (atoms are not true single-cores), and adding this to homestarrunner.com shoots up CPU usage to 100% on idle. Unfocusing the tab in which the script is active will bring down the CPU. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 01:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Huh, it doesn't do that for me... my computer isn't single-core, but using this script doesn't cause my usage to shoot up to a single core being fully used. It does increase the usage a bit, but not drastically... the main culprits being (a) View fullscreen - obviously, if Flash has to render a larger area, it's going to take more processing time; and (b) Seek bar/subtitles... these too mean asking the Flash object a bunch what frame it's up to... which means a lot more context switching between the browser and the plugin, and all the wrappers and whatnot that needs... which is either the fault of Flash or the plugin architecture, I'm not sure which. Anyways - if you try turning those options off, it should help with your CPU problems. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
::I've turned off fullscreen thing, nothing changed; I don't want to turn off subtitles, but I turned off the seek bar, it took up half my CPU alone. I really like the subtitles project, so I don't want that to go away. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 15:42, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Firefox 4.0 & JaegerMonkey ==

With [http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20004620-264.html Firefox 4.0] coming this year (or so it seems), they plan to implement "JaegerMonkey," a javaScript engine that rivals Safari's and Chrome's. The suffix -Monkey, sounds like it'll probably be replacing Greasemonkey or even forcing greasemonkey users to recompile their scripts all together. What do you plan to do if this happens? Keeping in mind that Firefox is the ONLY browser that works with your script, no other does. —[[User:ColdReactive|ColdReactive]] 16:08, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'll cross that bridge when we come to it. I don't see anything to suggest JägerMonkey is going to supersede GreaseMonkey (it's more likely it got the -Monkey suffix from [[Wikipedia:SpiderMonkey (JavaScript engine)|SpiderMonkey]]). So I don't expect the changes to be that drastic (there's probably going to be new features the script could potentially use, but little in the way of old features disappearing). Also: yes, I get the fact that there's a couple of dozen browsers you've asked me to port the script to... I've made it clear that isn't going to happen. Being snarky isn't going to change that. Note the big GPL header at the top of the script - if you want it to work in Opera or Chrome or Midori or whateverthecrap other browser you're using this week, you're welcome to try to figure it out yourself. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:59, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

== Resizing option for recent toons ==

Hey, Phlip. The largest monitor I have is reasonably sized and yet can't show all of past two toons at their HTML'd resolution (at least in Firefox). I admire the screen-resizing option, but with an old laptop that can only do 1024×768 that struggles enough with Flash (The one I'm using right now, in fact. It runs Linux), I'd rather not have toons in the usual 550×400 resolution being scaled. Could there be an option so that users can downsize toons to their native resolution? After all, the newer toons were made in the usual 550×400, I've heard. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:20, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, could there be an option to set our preferred vertical resolution? {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:27, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== Firefox 4 zoom ==

I just noted that when I do the normal resize thing by holding down CTRL and using the scroll wheel in firefox 4, the homestar runner flash objects all are resized as well. Is this new to Firefox 4? Or was it already introduced into 3.6.x? I swear I wasn't able to do this previously. This probably should go somewhere else, but since I only really wanted the resize portion in this script, I may just forgo keeping greasemonkey. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 20:18, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:It works as you describe in at least 3.6.13. Maybe you had "Zoom Text Only" checked. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Do not play on load" option ==

I have another feature request, but it's more of a convenience than anything. Could we have the option to have the Flash paused on page load, instead of having it automatically play? This would help someone when they restore a browser session that has multiple tabs/windows on homestarrunner.com. In my case, I find myself going to a toon, and then adjusting my settings a few times to get it just right (or, in recent cases of one of my Linux machines, getting the Flash player to appear). The bad thing is that, after doing that, the very beginning of the toon is unpleasantly seared into my brain, after hearing it several times on several occasions. Please and thanks, {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig|nodash=nodash}} 19:53, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
:Someone has told me about the Firefox extension [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bartab/ BarTab] for Firefox versions 4.0b6 and below, which doesn't automatically load tabs when a browser session is restored. Then I learned that Firefox 4 through 7 have had an option like this available as a hidden option; in Firefox 8 it will be available through the Preferences window. I guess my request is no more, seeing as I have other options. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 20:25, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
::Hahaha, what timing. Firefox 8 is out three days later. I did not see that coming. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 22:33, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

== Flipper broken ==

The flipper function (that turns the website upside down) is broken. Can you please either remove the function or mirror the flipper SWF on mrphlip.com? {{User:Dagoth/sig}} (I mean that it shows a 404'd error in place of the flipped page)
: I'll have a bit of a look, but I'm not sure it'd work to mirror the SWF... Flash tends to get tetchy about that sort of cross-domain nonsense. Anyway, I haven't really touched this script in some time, and unless the hiatus ends, I probably won't any time soon... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:48, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
:: Yeah, doesn't work. I've disabled the flipper in the script... I didn't bother to set the "updated" flag, though, so it won't get sent out through the update notification thing... no need to alert people to have to pick this up just because a feature's getting removed. If you feel the need to have the non-working option disappear from your options, though, you can just click the "install the script" link on the page here. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:50, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

== Chromified All-In-One Prototype ==
Update: It's highly recommended to either use the CRX, or the original script with Tampermonkey, like DeFender mentioned. I might add this to the Chrome App Store, but I'd like to make sure it's mostly bug-free, first.
Downlods:
* Chrome CRX (adds button to toolbar instead of in-window): http://cl.ly/QlpQ/HRAIO.crx
* Chrome CRX source: http://cl.ly/Qlse/HRAIO.zip
* Tampermonkey: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tampermonkey/dhdgffkkebhmkfjojejmpbldmpobfkfo?hl=en
<del>I modified the userscript to work with Chrome (I have version 28.0.1500.95). It's a bit of a hack, but hey-- it works for the most part!
I tested the basics, if anyone wants to test it, download it here: http://cl.ly/QkAX/allinone.user.js</del>
To install:
1. Download the file (it'll likely complain that you can only use the Chrome App Store, ignore it because it's downloaded anyway)
2. Go to your Downloads folder and find HRAIO.crx
3. Open the URL chrome://extensions in Chrome and drag and drop the HRAIO.crx into that window.
4. Click Accept/OK/Sure/whatever it says when it asks about security to install it.
[[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 02:13, 8 August 2013 (UTC), edited 15:11, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

edit by Gh0st

yes it works kindof navigation bar works, however subtitles do not when enabled do you want to possibly contact me to work on this script gh0sti at me dot com
:Phlip's original script works (almost) perfectly fine with [https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tampermonkey/dhdgffkkebhmkfjojejmpbldmpobfkfo?hl=en tampermonkey] installed. (The almost is that the "back one frame" button has the | and the < on separate lines, making it look slightly wrong. Other than that, it's perfect.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:01, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
::I wasn't even aware that was a thing, honestly! If anything, I'm just going to keep working on this in case people don't want to download another extension for whatever reason. Also because I find it fun, cough cough. The "|<" is a problem even without tampermonkey, so it must be a Chrome thing. I'll start to look into that, even if just because of cosmetic reasons. Also, gh0st, what's the problem with the navbar/subtitles? I've got this just fine: [http://cl.ly/image/0j361g3C1x2n/i.png screenshot] [[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 20:54, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Hmm... try this:<pre>prevButton.style.whiteSpace = "nowrap";</pre>should fix the wrapping, though I haven't tested it. As for the subtitles, it looks like you're still using GM_xmlHttpRequest to fetch those, so presumably you have something set up that lets you do that... I doubt Chrome has that builtin (and what it does have builtin wouldn't let you make a replacement, since it's cross-site and all). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:09, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:::: That bit of code worked out! Although, I'm kinda confused on why Chrome would decide to wrap a button. With the subtitles, I honestly don't know what in my version of Chrome is making it work. Even with only the All-in-one extension added, it works. I tried looking it up and it seems to be implied that it was broken on version 27, but it works on 28 (which is odd in the first place because GM_ is GreaseMonkey, not Chrome), as referenced by [https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=242890 this issue in the bugtracker]. [[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 14:58, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

what if you made it a plugin in the chrome store possibly easier to update?? and philip are you back to help code it to work again?
:I decided to work on this one and came up with this buggy little .crx in the first post. <del>It's got some problems with the scaling that I couldn't figure out (if anyone could help, that'd be great; I just have to wait for tomorrow to upload the source)</del> I think I got it figured out; at least it's scrolling. I'm much better with making my own code than editing that of others', so I wouldn't be surprised if I made a mess out of it. But hey, now the button's in the Chrome toolbar! [[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 22:36, 11 August 2013 (UTC), edited 15:11, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

@Gh0sti : Subtitles still do not work on the latest version you have put up, everything else seems to be working

:::Other than the seek bar not turning off, this works pretty good. --[[User:Mr nutt|mr_nutt]] 12:39, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
::::Just looked into this and you're right; localStorage doesn't cross between site to extension, meaning all settings are stored somewhere they can't be accessed. I'll try to figure out a fix for this as soon as possible. [[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 17:49, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Talk:@ronginald

2013-08-13T21:11:52Z

Atarifanatic: /* Found old posts? */

== Related discussions ==
There were a few discussions regarding this Twitter account before this page existed. I'll list the only two I could find (which I'm very sure is all of them) here for future reference:
*[[{{movinganchor|HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 42|Talk:Main Page|Matt on Twitter}}]] — First mention of the Twitter account on the Homestar Runner Wiki.
*[[File talk:SK-09-09-11.png#Not Sketchbook]] — Regards the legitimacy of the account. This is the first serious discussion regarding the Twitter account.
{{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 03:36, 5 November 2011 (UTC), edited 15:41, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

== Looks like Matt got More Stuff Lined up ==
1) Co-Director of "The Aquabats! Super Show": [[ronginald:status/176111911727931392|here]] and [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2228547/fullcredits here] 
2) Working on Disney's Gravity Falls in some capacity: [[ronginald:status/175445927270694912|here]]

Just figured to note this here even if it's non-H*R related. — [[User:Ngamer01|Ngamer01]] 16:46, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

== Twitter Account gone ==
It appears Matt deleted his Twitter account. Links to it are now dead ends. :(

== Wiki page for sbemail206? ==

I think there needs to be a wiki page about all the holdup and discussion on sbemail206.
:Which says what exactly? The only information we have is "Matt posted a blurry picture of the corner of a computer screen which appeared to have the beginning of a script for sbemail 206 on a now deactivated twitter account". I don't think that's enough content for a page. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:09, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
::DeFender: I'm not saying I'm in support of such an article, but what about the fact that once sbemail206 is finally released, it will end the longest Sbemail hiatus (and, if it ends the overall H*R hiatus, that too)? What about what very little we know about what may be in sbemail206 from that picture?
::And last of all, like I said on the main page talk, what will we do with all the Twitter-related stuff on this Wiki? Since the Twitter account no longer exists and does not have a mirror, and that the Wayback Machine has intentionally excluded Twitter from being archived, we kind of sound a bit like we're feeding users false information. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:40, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
:::We will keep this page, of course. Are you suggesting that people will think we made it up out of whole cloth? That's just nonsense. Are you trying to make some sense? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:13, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Ronginald Remastered! ==

Thanks for pointing that out, it's dot com! (Oh wait, nevermind it was Defender who noticed') As for the speculations, I think his "someday when you least expect it..." Tweet strongly suggests a sort of correlation to homestarrunner. I'd like to point out he tweeted like 6 times within a day or two, which is sort of unusual... I don't know, as you can see from my screenshot, I don't have no twitter. [[File:Ronginaldsnewtweets.jpg|thumb|When I least expect it?| 250 px]] {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 19:39, 26 April 2013 (UTC) I read Ron planet, and all of the tweets are direct quotes except that one, It may however be referring to the strip and not Hr.

== Found old posts? ==

So either everyone knows these exist and they're currently on his twitter page, or I have unearthed some old [http://favstar.fm/users/ronginald twitter posts]. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 22:07, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
:Does anyone know if those ''are'' old posts and not ones we know about? Ronginald tweeted again, "This Lurg worked"... I've read the strip but don't recognize it, can anyone confirm a reference? {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 01:25, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
::What the crap is a Lurg? --[[User:JohnnyLurg|JohnnyLurg]] 04:17, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
:::...says the guy who has "Lurg" in his username. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 04:20, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
:::: HAH! The irony! {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 04:39, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
::::: I'm not ''not'' Ronginald on Twitter. --[[User:JohnnyLurg|JohnnyLurg]] 03:18, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
:Favstar likes to archive old tweets, and I haven't seen any goings on of tweet tampering from there. Assuming new ronginald doesn't make a favstar account, it should stay there long enough for us to at least archive old tweets. [[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 21:11, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

User talk:Phlip/Greasemonkey

2013-08-12T15:11:21Z

Atarifanatic: /* Chromified All-In-One Prototype */ Final edit for a little while on this page. Now comes with a CRX!

User talk:Phlip/Greasemonkey

2013-08-11T22:36:23Z

Atarifanatic: /* Chromified All-In-One Prototype */

==Troubleshooting==
If the script doesn't seem to be working for you, please try:
#If you have Adblock, Flashblock, or similar addons installed, disable them on homestarrunner.com.
#Reinstalling the script, by clicking [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Phlip/Greasemonkey&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&fakeextension=.user.js this link].
#Uninstalling Greasemonkey (from the Tools menu in Firefox, choose Add-ons, then go to the Extensions section, click Greasemonkey, then Uninstall), and then reinstall it (from [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748 here]). You'll probably need to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Phlip/Greasemonkey&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&fakeextension=.user.js install the script] again.
If you're still having problems after that, ''then'' ask for help on this page. Be sure to mention what versions of Firefox and Flash you have, and what other extensions you have installed. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

==Release notes==
===Version 1.0 (8 Mar, 2006)===
*First released version.
*Had the fullscreen, seek bar, prev/next and wiki link features.
*Worked only on the main site.
===Version 2.0 (26 May, 2006)===
*Added the preferences menu.
*Added support for Videlectrix and the HRWiki mirror.
*Added "outside the frame", April Fools and plain HTML navbar options.
===Version 2.1 (8 Aug, 2006)===
*Tooltips in the preferences box.
*The "more better" rando link is now always on... the less better version was just ugly, so I removed it.
*You can set what types of toon are included in the rando selection.
*You have the option to make it check if the next sbemail/whatever actually exists before putting the "next" link (so there's no "next" link on the latest email).
**The only reason this wasn't there before is that it means an extra hit to the H*R servers... but now that I have the preferences things set up, so you can turn it on or off, I think that's fine.
===Version 3.0 (29 Aug, 2006)===
*Added [[HRWiki:Subtitles|subtitling]] functionality.
*Updating no longer requires uninstalling the previous version.
===Version 3.1 (27 Sep, 2006)===
*Whether to show the names next to subtitles is now a distinct setting from the one for colours - you can have neither, either or both.
*There is a button that will purge the local cache for all subtitles-related files downloaded from the wiki and reload the page, for when the cache is out of date.
*The ability to update the test subtitles without refreshing the page for every change (NB: disabled by default, see [[#Refresh Subtitles|below]]).
*Rewind and fast forward buttons on the seek bar to go to the first/last frame, respectively.
*Flash loading progress bar on the seek bar (see how much it's loaded).
===Version 3.2 (25 Sep, 2007)===
*Add option to automatically check for script updates (on by default).

__TOC__

==Suggestion==
Would it make sense to change line 272 to
<pre> addHRWikiLink("Index_Page");</pre>
Then I suppose line 261 could be removed. By the way, ''amazing'' work Phlip. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:25, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I suggest that the games on videlectrix.com should be added, such as
<pre>http://www.videlectrix.com/duckguard1.html
http://videlectrix.com/duckguard1.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/racewalk.html
http://videlectrix.com/racewalk.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/hallrunner.html
http://videlectrix.com/hallrunner.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/lcd_game.html
http://videlectrix.com/lcd_game.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/thydungeonman2.html
http://videlectrix.com/thydungeonman2.html</pre>
And yeah, you rock. [[User:Libertyernie|Libertyernie]] 16:32, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:Hmm, that's a good point... I'll get on that sometime <s>(probably tomorrow)</s>. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:37, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
::The reason I thought of this was because I realized the Pause button on the seekbar can be used for skipping a level in Duck Guardian. [[User:Libertyernie|Libertyernie]] 21:47, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
==Homestar-Fullon Edit==
Using the user script I was getting a scrollbar on every page, so I edited line 411 from
<pre>var dh = window.innerHeight - 10;</pre>
to
<pre>var dh = window.innerHeight - 20;</pre>
This kept all the content in the window, but I didn't have to scroll down to see the navbar at the bottom. Did this happen to anyone else? [[User:Consonance|Consonance]] 08:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
:Not me. Works perfectly for me. --{{User:X-Spider2/X-Sigger2}} 03:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

==Eventual to-do list==
(in no particular order)
*{{done}} General cleanup of the code.
*{{done}} Work on Videlectrix.
*{{done}} Work on the mirrors (<s>[http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/ kitkorp]</s> ''(not needed with Tom working on completing the HRWiki mirror)'' and [[Mirror:|HRWiki]]).
*{{done}} Some way of turning various features on and off maybe?
**{{done}} Only if I get this working, replace the flash files with [[April Fools 2006|theyCallHimFlipper.swf]].
*{{done}} replace the navbar with text links (this is more for me than for you guys).
*{{done}} resize the seek bar when the toon resizes (if you resize the window)
*{{done}} show outside-the-frame stuff
Feel free to add suggestions. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

:I've got one. You could try "flipping the ''whole page'' upside down". You know, using the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperMainNav.swf?contentURL=main_nav.swf flipped navbar], too. And putting the navbar above the flipped toon/game. 
:Also, you could try adding A-B repeat to the seek bar, if you know enough to do that. Preferably make it a seperate sub-option in the prefs, too.
:[[do over|Totally not getting old]], {{User:X-Spider2/X-Sigger2}} 22:57, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
:I have a suggestion/request. If you could make a "play all sbemails in order" type of function, that would be really awesome. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/69.249.241.164|69.249.241.164]] 18:13, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

== Errors in installing ==

I keep getting this error: 
Error installing user script: 
 
[Exception... "Compoment returned failure code: 0x804b000a [nsIIOService.newChannel]" nsresult: "0x804b000a (<unknown>)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://strongbademailsprevnext/content/browser.xul :: getContents :: line 20" data: no] 
 
Any suggestions? {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 07:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
:"strongbademailsprevnext"? I'm guessing you have [https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1695/ this extension] installed? You might want to uninstall that... this script does that stuff too. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
::<s>Nope. I only have the script that allows it to be viewed 'full-screen'. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 22:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)</s>
::Nevermind. Turns out that they were both conflicting and I was misinterpreting the second error message. Thanks! {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 22:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 
Just as a side-note for people who run into the same problem I did: if you use a program that blends its own Javascript functions into every page you load (mainly found in ad-munching software, like Ad Muncher), make sure you disable it BEFORE installing the Greasemonkey script. Otherwise the extra code might break it, requiring you to clear your cache and install it again with the filters disabled. [[User:MNGoldenEagle|MNGoldenEagle]] 14:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

== HOW THE HECK!?!?!?!?! ==

HOW DID YOU MAKE THIS!?!?! {{User:The thing/sig}} 00:36, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

:Phlip has studied necromancy and sorcery for many years now. Other than that, it's a good diet, exercise, and a modicum of good fortune. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:44, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

::Phlip has access to both a monkey and a typewriter, so it really was only a [[Wikipedia:Infinite monkey theorem|matter of time]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:46, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

:::No, no, no... I sold my soul to Haxxina, ancient Greek goddess of programming and ruler of the underworld. In return She gave me the ability to write this script as my superpower. Just don't make me say my name backwards minus the first 'P' and we should be fine. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:52, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

::::We'll be out a free [[lunch special]]? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:58, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

== Refresh Subtitles ==
OK, this feature will need some explaining... First, go Tools→Manage User Scripts, click on "Homestar All-in-one" and click "Edit". If it asks you to choose a text editor, just pick Notepad unless you have something better. It'll look ugly in Notepad (it doesn't recognise the line endings) but it'll work. Now search for <code>if (settings.testsubs && false)</code> and change it to <code>if (settings.testsubs && true)</code>. Now you can use the feature. First you have to turn on "Test subtitles" and hit "Save and apply" as usual, but the next time after the page loads there'll be a "Refresh Subtitles" button below the text area, that re-parses the subtitles without reloading the page - invaluable to subtitle authors.

The reasons the option's not avaliable by default are:
*The interface is clumsy... sometimes the button's there, sometimes it's not there... depending on whether the test subtitles were already enabled before the page loaded... given it's something that's supposed to update stuff without a page load it can be confusing.
*It's not exhaustively tested, and has some weird side-effects (it calls <code>savesettings</code>, so if you, say, turn off the seekbar and hit "Reload Subtitles" the seekbar will remain, but it'll save that you want the seekbar turned off)...
*It's not permanent... Version 4.0 will hopefully make it so that ''all'' settings work like this, and clicking "Save and Apply" won't have to reload the page.
So it's there if you want it, but it's not cluttering up the settings boxes of people that don't want it.

Anyways, enjoy! {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== Greasemonkey install method ==
GM's changed the way it installs scripts by link. A single-click on the link will offer to install the script, the option isn't even on the right click menu anymore. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 17:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== Just the seek bar ==

Maybe for use on other sites, you could individually release the code for the seekbar. (And, if possible, include the preferences from the whole script, plus maybe external CSS skin support.) --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 04:00, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

== spellcheck ==

"Homestar" is misspelled in the warning section of the heap-o-comments at the beginning. Page is locked or I'd fix it myself. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:08, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

== Uniformity matters... again ==

Since "podcast" was added recently to the navbar, can you please update that? --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 20:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:Done. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:54, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

== Is it just me or is this broken? ==

One day the fullon part stopped working for me. And the Subtitles. And the seek bar. The corner buttons are still there. --[[User:68.55.198.213|68.55.198.213]] 11:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
:It's still working fine for me. What did you do the day that it broke? Did you install any other extensions, or scripts, or upgrade anything? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:03, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

::So It's just me. That's good to know. I poked around in the system, and determined an update to flashblock borked it. I normally don't unblock flash (even for homestarrunner.com). Adding it to the whitelist fixed the problem. Before that update, they both worked together. Thanks, and I hope this info helps someone.--[[User:68.55.198.213|68.55.198.213]] 13:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

== Not working in nightly build =( ==

In the nightly build of Firefox (Dubbed Minefield), the script has limited functionality.
The subtitle language selector doesn't work, as there are no options. I will try to clean up to make it work..right.

[[User:Onekopaka|onekopaka]] 02:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:By design, if subtitles are turned off, the script doesn't contact the wiki at all. When you turn the subtitles on, it tries to download the [[Subtitles:Languages|list of supported languages]] then. The list is empty until that finishes (I suppose I should put a "Loading..." message in there...). So wait a bit, see if it turns up. Failing that, it is a nightly build after all, you should expect some things to be broken... the name "Minefield" isn't just for show... chances are, it's a problem with either <code>GM_xmlhttpRequest</code> or <code>DOMParser</code>... and if so, then it's either a Firefox issue or a GreaseMonkey issue, and there's little I can do about it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:15, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::After looking in a Debug Console, the blame goes to..... Greasemonkey! [[User:Onekopaka|onekopaka]] 06:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Firefox 3's document.getElementById is changed so that it returns the first object. If you're using it, you might want to read up on MDC (http://developer.mozilla.org/) --[[User:24.17.113.45|24.17.113.45]] 06:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Typo... ==

You mispelled automatically. [[User:Don't press that button.|Don't press that button.]] 10:08, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
:I somehow think that's [[Portmanteau|intentional]]. {{User:Mee/sig}} 11:05, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
::If you're referring to "[http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/A/automagically.html automagically]", then yes, that's intentional. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:24, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Podcast/Podstar ==

<pre> addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/toons.html", "Toons");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/games.html", "Games");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/characters2.html", "Characters");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/downloads.html", "Downloads");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://homestarrunner.stores.yahoo.net/", "Store");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html", "SB Emails");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/email.html", "Contact");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/", "Podstar");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/legal.html", "Legal");
randolink = addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "javascript:alert('rando.xml not loaded yet... be patient')", "Rando");</pre>

Where it says Podstar, it should say Podcast. On main_nav.swf, it says podcast. Here, is says Podstar. Incorrect. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 19:00, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:The feature is called [[Podstar Runner]], though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:48, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
::My bad. Fixed. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, but if the purpose is to simulate the real main_mav bar, then it should be podcast. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 01:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. That's why I fixed it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:26, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Ah. You posted while I was still posting. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 22:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== Just a question... ==

Are you ever going to put this in the [http://dunck.us/collab/GreaseMonkeyUserScriptsSpecific#head-afce957a390e4b53ef2a03b41fd1b4c04a5f926b Greasemonkey Script Repository?] Just wondering... --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 18:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, that's the old Greasemonkey script place thing. The new one is at [http://www.userscripts.org/ userscripts.org]. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 19:00, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

== not working ==

i installed greasemonkey but there isnt anything under tools. you do mean tools that is above the adress bar, right? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 22:57, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== Tablet stuff ==

Hey, this is a really neat script. Anyway, I use a tablet computer, and I've noticed that, when viewing a toon in portrait (tall) mode, the toon will cover up the top two buttons ("settings" and "wiki") if the script is set to scale the toon to full size. This is, I imagine, because the script expects the screen to be wider than it is tall, as most computer screens are... so when that is not the case, the toon sticks around the top of the page and covers up those key buttons. This doesn't happen in normal, "landscape" mode because the toon is horizontally centered across a wide screen. If the toon were vertically centered as well, or at least nudged sixteen pixels downward when on a tall screen, those buttons and their inherent usefulness would be unveiled for all. ("Landscape" mode is, of course, the better option for viewing Homestar Runner, but I think this would be a pretty good fix nonetheless.)

There are some other things: in Firefox 3.0 beta 4, the seek bar extends too far to the right, visually (covering up the buttons to its right), and does not seem to work for changing your place in the toon. Also, the script never seems to be able to load subtitles, perpetually leaving "loading" in place of subtitle options in the pulldown menu. Oh, and the "settings" bar has most of its scrollbar obscured by the toon, oddly, though it still works.

I hope this helps in working out any kinks. If nobody else can reproduce these errors, I can provide more details. Anyway, thanks![[User:24.22.64.228|24.22.64.228]] 05:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

== 30 Frames fix? ==

For some reason, with the SBCG4AP "ad," the seek bar doesn't work at all. It counts the frame, but all the buttons (besides the zoom) doesn't work. --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 21:08, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:This has nothing to do with the high framerate (which is 24 anyway, not 30), and everything to do with the fact that the HTML file is on homestarrunner.com, but the flash file is on Telltale's servers... Flash's security gets in the way, and there's nothing that can be done about it. Best I can do is make it so that the seekbar is disabled on that toon (or, at least, make it more obvious that it's informative only, and you can't use it to control the playback). Which I'm working on. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:53, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

== 3.2.3 broken in FF 2? ==

I can't get the subtitles if I upgrade to 3.2.3. I'm using FF 2. I see that it was changed for tweaks for Firefox 3...did you notice that it breaks it in FF 2? I don't think a version that breaks it in the current version of Firefox should be released to the update. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 16:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:Oops... I didn't think to regression-test the changes in Fx 2... yeah, that doesn't work. The deal is that, in an earlier version of GreaseMonkey, DOMParser wasn't available for GM scripts to use... and you had to use some workaround to get at it. That workaround didn't work in Fx 3, but the site I got it from listed another option that did. Turns out that other option doesn't work in Fx 2. It also turns out that the workaround isn't necessary at all any more. It's gone now, and the script works in both Fx 2 and 3 (it should auto-update again in the next day or so). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks, it works now. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 14:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== Trouble dragging in FF3 ==

If you try to drag the seek bar, but are already moving the mouse when you start dragging (move it faster if it doesn't do it for you), it messes up. By messes up, I mean it flashes the cursor between a circular crossout symbol and the normal cursor as you hold it down (still moving the movie as you move), then when you release, it keeps following your mouse until you click on it again. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 20:04, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:Huh. That's... bizzare. I get a similar thing, but instead of the cursor-flashing thing you're saying, it actually starts dragging around a slightly-shrunk picture of the seekbar, and sometimes some of the surrounding buttons. I'll look into it (which I guess means I'll need to figure out how the drag-and-drop stuff in the seekbar actually works, since I didn't write that... that'll be "fun"). In the meantime: Don't do that. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::"In the meantime: Don't do that." lol yeah...It's just that I do it accidentally pretty often now, and it's annoying. I'll try to avoid it in the meantime, though. Thanks for looking into it. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 14:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:::OK, this is fixed, I think. I never found a way to reproduce it reliably, but I think I could get it about one try in 3 or 4... and I tried about 20 times now, and I can't get it to happen... let me know if it still happens for you. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
::::It seems to work now. It hasn't happened since I updated. The random button now shows the correct tooltip. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 21:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

== Plain HTML Rando Not Working in FF3? ==

I am finding if I used the plain HTML navbar with the script, it is not working and I get a dialog box saying "rando.xml has not loaded yet. Be Patient." from homestarrunner.com. Is this an issue with the official site, or did something in FF3 break it?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 22:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:It works for me, but shows the wrong URL when I roll over it. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 16:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::The wrong-URL thing should be fixed now. Things were happening in the wrong order... the tooltip and the page it would send you to if you clicked matched, but the URL in the status bar was from the previous selection... I tweaked the timing a bit, so this doesn't happen any more. I couldn't reproduce the infinite "has not loaded yet" thing... try clicking the "Clear Subtitles Cache" button in the preferences screen... the same button will clear the rando.xml cache, forcing it to really try again to download it from the server. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

== Subtitles broken ==

I'm on Firefox 3, with Adblock Plus (disabled on h*r.com and hrwiki.org), and the subtitles don't appear. I check "Show subtitles" in the options, and a list of languages appears, but when I go to anything that has subtitles - I tested it on [[Play Date]] - I get a "loading subtitles" message which disappears after a second or so. Other features like the seek bar work fine. Thanks in advance, [[Special:Contributions/24.250.112.127|24.250.112.127]] 23:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Works fine on 2.0.0.14, the latest stable build. I don't know if it's worth Phlip's time to develop for the beta, but you could revert to the stable build and it'll work. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:09, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::IP Guy: I had the same problem, but then I reinstalled the script and tested it by watching [[The Baloneyman]], and now the subtitles work again.
::Qermaq: the latest stable build is actually 3.0.0. --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 07:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, what do you know, must have been quite recently. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Update: I find the Greasemonkey extension is working flawlessly on my install of Firefox 3. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:42, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::I found that disabling AdBlock Plus for homestarrunner sites worked for me. --Rovlad.

I was about to report a problem with this, but I forgot about having to disable Adblock to get the subtitles working, even on the latest build. I'm installing Firefox in Ubuntu, and I though the crappy flash plugin was the problem.

Anyways, you may want to make this advice more prominent, in some sort of FAQ. (If you have already, well, I couldn't find it.)

--trlkly 23:48, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


== How'd you get the icon data? ==

I noticed that your icons are embedded in the script as base64 data. If you used an encoder program, which one was it? --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 00:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:It's pretty simple... just convert the picture to PNG (I use The GIMP for that... any web-friendly image format will work, but PNG is best), then [[Wikipedia:Base64|Base64]]-ify the PNG file (I just use the tool in [http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/coreutils coreutils]), and tack "<code>data:image/png;base64,</code>" on the start, then use the string as the URL for the image. Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:data URI scheme|more info]]. I'm sure there exists some online tools that let you upload files and generate the data: URIs for them... try Google. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Seekbar ==

I can't get the seekbar to work. Every time I click anywhere on it it just goes back to the beginning of the toon. I know nothing about code, mind you, so I have no idea how to fix this. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:32, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nevermind. I changed some of my Firefox settings and it works now. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:37, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
what did you do, i have the same problem [[User:Forddude1416|Forddude1416]] 19:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

== Screencapture ==

How do I get a screen capture in Ubuntu Linux? --[[User:O98-111-114-113|Blow Up the Ocean]] 20:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:This may vary (it's been a while since I used Gnome), but I believe that alt-Print Screen grabs the focused window, and Print Screen by itself grabs the entire desktop. It will either prompt you for a filename to save it as, or just save it automatically on your Desktop. It will be in PNG format, which is probably want you want. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 21:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Test subtitles script and back button ==

I do a lot of subtitle work (the AIO makes it about a million times easier/possible, BTW :) ) and so I often use the "Test subtitles script" feature to preview my scripts before I save 'em. The problem is that I usually forget to uncheck the box, so when I go to another toon, it displays the wrong subtitles. Not a big deal, of course, as I can go into the options and uncheck the box, but it's an annoyance. It'd be nice if it automatically unchecks the box. Possibly make it uncheck when you load a different toon. 
Also, if you have outside-the-frame action enabled and press the back/forward button (in the browser, not the next/previous button) to go to a page, it loads it full-screen instead of showing outside-the-frame action. 
Oh and BTW I just noticed there's a feature to zoom in/out of the toon when it's full screened, but not when it shows outside-the-frame action. Can you add that feature in outside-the-frame mode, too?
--[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 16:22, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
:The "Test subtitles script" option needs some serious rework anyway... I'd like the "Refresh subtitles" button to Just Work, rather than the sort of inconsistent mess it is now. Being able to give test subtitles for just one specific toon is a good idea... I'll add it to the list of things to do when I get around to doing that.
:The back/forward buttons and outside-the-frame: I hadn't noticed that... I'll look into it. Does everything else work with back/forward?
:As for the zoom buttons and outside-the-frame, if you use the Zoom things in Flash, then it stops doing the outside-the-frame thing... you can't zoom out further than how it behaves when you view the SWF alone (ie: either the height or width matches the height or width of your window, whichever is smaller)... and there's no way to go back to the outside-the-frame mode except by resetting it to the usual outside-the-frame size. I couldn't find any way around this... so I just got rid of the zoom buttons when that option's turned on. If you happen to know of a workaround, I'd love to hear it... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:41, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
::Ok, cool. I don't mean that I really care to see toon-specific subs that are remembered with different pages, in case that's what you thought. I just want it to be cleared when I go to a page besides the one being tested.
::I haven't noticed anything else wrong with back/forward. I've noticed that when a page loads normally, it's momentarily enlarged to full screen before it's changed to show outside-the-frame, but that when you do back/forward it doesn't change. Perhaps it's something with how FF tells scripts that the page has loaded when it comes in from memory (since it was in recent history) instead of loading for the first time. I should probably also note that when it's zoomed out after going back/forward, I can still see outside-the-frame action, but of course since it's already full-screen, I only see it on the edges (instead of being like the normal full screen mode that puts black on the sides, this allows vision on the sides).
::Do you think you could make it so if it's already at the max zoom out level, instead of just trying to tell the SWF to zoom out more (unsuccessfully), make it refresh as outside-the-frame in some way so it goes back out? Of course, that would preferably be without ''actually'' refreshing the page, so your place isn't lost like when you save a setting. This could eliminate the need for an outside-the-frame option, since if you want to zoom out when it's already all the way out, it goes to outside-the-frame, while zooming in while viewing outside-the-frame would go to full screen.
::I just got an idea to fix the issue that when you save settings it refreshes the page (more of a workaround really, something that does it without refreshing at all would be better). Let it refresh, but first remember the frame you're at and the pause/unpause status (is there anything else that would be needed to make it seem the same?) and set it to that once it refreshes. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 01:27, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

== Latest java build ==

Seems this script is incompatable with the latest Java version. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:08, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:Can you be more specific? Neither this script, nor Homestarrunner.com use Java in any way... {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 03:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

::I beg to differ. I upgraded to the most recent Java and it asked me to deactivate this. I tied to reinstall, but it does not work. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:59, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Can you still be more specific? Asked you to disabled this specific userscript, or Greasemonkey in general? Do you know the exact wording of the message? What version of Java did you update to? I just checked mine and it was at 1.6.0_04, there was an update available (to 1.6.0_07), which I just installed, restarted Firefox (and confirmed it was using the new version), and I did not see any change in the behaviour at all.
:::I'm still pretty sure Java isn't used directly here (in fact, I'm certain it isn't). But, it is possible that the Java installation changed something in the browsers security model that is messing things up. I'll try updating it on another computer tomorrow and see if I get the problem to happen there. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 05:07, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

::::Are you on a Mac? It appears to be broken on my Mac... but, it's past my bedtime right now. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 05:14, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::I am still unable to install this script. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:23, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::And I am still unable to even guess as to what your problem is... Can you answer GreenHelmet's questions above? They'll help narrow down the problem. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I am not certain how to check the Java version. I did go to the Java site and install the latest version. Greasemonkey itself seems to be properly installed, though I don't know how I can test that. Running Vista. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Hmm... can you try something for me... run notepad, and type in this:
<pre>// ==UserScript==
// @name GM Test Thing
// @description Check that Greasemonkey is working
// @include http://homestarrunner.com/*
// @include http://www.homestarrunner.com/*
// ==/UserScript==
alert("Greasemonkey's working");</pre>
::::::::Save it somewhere as "test.user.js" (include the quotes, when you type it into Notepad's "Save As" box, otherwise it'll save it as test.user.js.txt). Then open that file in Firefox, let it install the script, and go to [[HR:]]. You should get a message box coming up saying that GM's working. If not, there's something wrong with GM on your end... try uninstalling and reinstalling it. Otherwise, let me know, and I'll have to make a more detailed test. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I reinstalled Greasemonkey, and everything seems to be in order now. Something must have gotten goofed up on installation before. Thanks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:03, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== Script doesn't seem to work ==

I'm running Firefox 3, and none of the buttons, scrollbar[s], or subtitles work. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 22:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm... could you try out the things listed in the [[#Troubleshooting|brand new Troubleshooting section]]? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::Phlip, maybe you should move step 3 up to step 1? It might save some people unnecessary work ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 16:27, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Good point... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Firefox 3 does have its own downs, because Adblock Plus doesn't conflict with the script in Firefox '''2''' but does in 3. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 19:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you! ==

This thing is awesome. [[User:HomsarGuy|HomsarGuy]] 13:16, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks and feature suggestion ==

Hey! Thanks for making this script! It really makes watching H*R much easier (and better)!
 I would like to suggest a feature - it would be great to have an automatic 'next' feature to play through a whole series (like SBemail) or to play random through the whole site. This way we could watch sequential H*R without being near a mouse. (I don't know if this would infringe on the value of the SBemail DVDs) -[[User:Dutchscout|Dutchscout]] 05:48, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== Page-Overwrite? ==

It's been on my mind lately; would it be possible to get the script to overwrite the loaded Flash file on a page, or just replace the content of a page without creating security issues with Flash? In some cases, it could be helpful, as with being able to run subtitles on certain Puppet Stuff toons that don't have their own HTML page, like [[Marshie vs. Little Girl]]. We could use [[HR:default.html|default.html]] as a "dummy page", and using a URL referrer of "<code>overwrite=whateverflashhere.swf</code>" (which would be picked up by the script, not the page), would overwrite the page with your usual Homestar Runner toon-viewing code, with the Flash file in place of the usual "toon placeholder" itself? (I hope that made sense) --[[Special:Contributions/70.253.165.204|70.253.165.204]] 00:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Script broke. ==

Your Greasemonkey script doesn't work. I am using Minefield 3.2a1pre and Flash Player 10. I also modified Greasemonkey to make it work with Minefield. {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 08:11, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:Try everything in the [[#Troubleshooting|Troubleshooting section]]. If that doesn't help, read through [http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html this] and try again. Incidentally, "Minefield" has that codename for a reason... that Greasemonkey works at all (especially after you modified it) should be considered a stroke of luck. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== 2 things ==

1:Thanks!I really wanted a bigger screen.
2:Is it possible to make it work with the [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com kitkorp] mirror?

== subtitles stopped working ==

I just noticed it today. I used it and it worked fine the other day. It seems that the script isn't finding the list of languages at [[Subtitles:Languages]] (the Subtitles Language select box doesn't have any entries). I do have AdBlock Plus but disabled it temporarily with no change. I'm using Firefox 3.0.11 with Greasemonkey 0.8.20090123.1 and the newest All-in-one script from [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey]] (3.2.7). Perhaps it's related to "We will be making adjustments to the server throughout the evening, including upgrading to MediaWiki 1.15."? See also [[HRWiki_talk:Subtitles#Subitles_Not_Working?]] --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 03:11, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
:It's related to the [[HRWiki:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.15|new upgrade]] and the move to the /wiki/ URLs... it should be fixed now. The script should automatically prompt you to update it sometime in the next day or so, or you can just hit the install link on [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|the script page]] to do it yourself. If you're still not getting subtitles, it could be because you hit the "Save" or "Clear cache" buttons in the config panel while the subtitles were broken... in that case, just open up the config panel, make sure that the "language" option is set, and hit save. That should bring them back. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:27, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks, it works now. :) --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 20:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== sbemail201 & hremail3184 ==

Someone needs to fix the back/forward links for the Sbemails, because Sbemail #201 is actually Hremail #3184 in the URL!!! {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 22:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Not Compatible with Firefox 3? ==

Ever since upgrading to FF3, this script hasn't been working at all.
:I'm running Firefox 3.5 (on Windows) and it's working fine for me (it worked fine for me on 3.0). Did you try the troubleshooting options [[#Troubleshooting|listed above]]? I've had problems with AdBlock plus so I added an exception to [[homestarrunner.com|hr.com]], [[Main Page|hrwiki.org]] and [[videlectrix]]. If they don't work, can you provide more information regarding your problem? (Such as what platform and how does the script fail?) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:18, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

::I got it. I had to reinstall Greasemonkey, then update it, then reinstall the HR script.

== Some code for a more streamlined "Hide" ability ==

This is one way that crossed my mind. You'd have to replace the two lines in transcriptLoaded:

<pre>line.text = importNodes(lines[i]);
transcript.push(line);</pre>

With this:

<pre>var hideEnds = true;
for (var j = lines[i].firstChild; j; j = j.nextSibling)
{
// Looks for a "hide" element, and divides the line into two if one is found.
if(j.nodeType == j.ELEMENT_NODE && j.nodeName.toLowerCase() == "hide" && hideEnds)
{
// If no frame number is specified, make the last frame of hiding really big, so it never stops hiding
var hideUntil = 100000;
if(j.hasAttribute("frame"))
{
hideUntil = parseInt(j.getAttribute("frame"), 10);
if(isNaN(hideUntil) && settings.TestSubs)
transcriptError("Hide frame \"" + j.getAttribute("frame") + "\" is not a number");
}
if(hideUntil < line.start && settings.TestSubs)
{
transcriptError("Hide frame \"" + j.getAttribute("frame") + "\" is too early");
}
var firstLine = line;
if(hideuntil < line.end)
{
firstLine.end = hideuntil;
}
else
{
hideEnds = false;
}
j.setNodeName("span");
j.setAttribute("visibility", "hidden");
firstLine.text = importNodes(lines[i]);
transcript.push(firstLine);
j.setAttribute("visibility", "visible");
line.start = hideuntil;
}
}
if(hideEnds)
{
line.text = importNodes(lines[i]);
transcript.push(line);
}</pre>

I'm kinda shaky on the programming language and its nuances, though. Especially "setNodeName", or whether "span" would work without a "/span" (or if adding a "/span" is possible). Also, it's very possible I made a mistake.

If it works, though, it should allow you to add <hide frame="123" /> and it would hide everything after it on a line until frame 123. You wouldn't have to put in multiple lines that way. Even a <hide/> tag should just simply hide everything else on the line, period (unless the toon becomes 100000+ frames in length AND the line comes after that point, but that hasn't happened yet and probably will never.)

Thoughts? Fixes? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:31, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

: PS. Another useful addition would be the ability to write overlapping lines separately and have them all display. Would be useful for when characters semi-interrupt or speak over one another. [[Crystal Fortress]]'s subs were a pain to write without this feature. I don't have code for it, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:56, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::Also for sound effects that are shorter than the dialogue, etc. Perhaps though it should be a different element called "<nowiki><overlap></nowiki>" with the same syntax as line, just to keep the error checking for people who don't intend to overlap lines. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::That <hide> tag sounds like a good idea, that's definitely going on my todo list. Maybe not the way you describe, though... rather than just having the empty tag hide everything from here to the end of the line, have something like "<code>first part <hide frame="100">second part</hide></code>"... it'd make more sense, I think, and be easier to code up. Maybe it should have <code>start</code> and <code>end</code> attributes instead, so things can disappear instead of appearing? Optional, of course, so you can have just a <code>start</code> and no <code>end</code>, and have it behave like you describe.
:::As for overlapping lines, it's something that I've considered before, but never really looked into, as it could be kinda tricky. In particular, arranging the lines... if you have two lines at once, and the first one ends, you want the second one to stay on the second line, with a gap above it (it could move upwards, but that'd be confusing)... and then, if a third line starts, it'd make sense to put it in the gap above the second line... but it may not fit, if it's a long line that word-wraps, or has the <code>volume</code> attribute turned up, or something. So there's an optimisation problem there to arrange all the lines without it being so tall that it runs out of space. But I may be overthinking it here, and a greedy heuristic is probably enough. I'll try it, and see what happens.
:::But don't hold your breath for either of these... I can't guarantee how long they'll take to write... what with the full-time work and all, I'm often not in the mood for programming outside work... but we'll see. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:58, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::::We could create a <code>lineindex</code> attribute to fix that problem. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 14:21, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Not really... maybe if every line was exactly the same height, it'd work, but that's not necessarily the case, with <code>volume</code> and word-wrap. Indeed, with word-wrap, the same line could be different heights on different computers, even with the same subtitles script. Much better to have a dynamic solution. It'd be less work for the transcribers that way anyway, which is kinda the point of this whole thing. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Midori Web Browser ==

You probably don't use linux but, your script does not work with midori's built in userscript engine. I want it to work with midori but do not know why it isn't working. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:11, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:The script uses a bunch of GreaseMonkey-specific features, for things like saving the preferences or loading subtitles from the wiki. From [http://wiki.xfce.org/midori_faq#user_scripts what I can tell], Midori doesn't support any of those (note the part that says "Midori also does not support greasemonkey's api"). I looked into it briefly before, when I was considering supporting Opera... but without those features, it would be a lot of work. Maybe I'll take another look in the future, but don't hold your breath. (Incidentally: Yes, I do use Linux.) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::I don't need preferences if I can just have a userscript that does the following:
::* Stretches the flash
::* Check if next toon exists
::* Has the seek bar
::But I guess it's still not possible. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:48, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Like I said, it would be a heck of a lot of work to retrofit the script to not depend on Greasemonkey. That includes stripping out the script so that only some features are available - all the different features are pretty interconnected at the moment, it's hard to remove just one of them. It's my long-term plan to clean up the script and make it simpler to manage, but that's been my long-term plan since before the subtitles thing started 3 years ago, and I still haven't even started, so don't hold your breath. And anyway, that "check if the next toon exists" thing is one of the things that depends on the GM API, so even if I could quickly strip down the features, I couldn't do that one easily.
:::However! You might have some luck with the original scripts that the all-in-one script was based on. I suspect that the [http://userscripts.org/scripts/review/633 Homestar Full-on] ''could'' work in other browsers that have userscript features... I haven't tried it, but it looks like it could work (it doesn't depend on GreaseMonkey, but it might implicitly depend on Firefox, that's harder to tell just by looking at the script). The [https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/flash.html seek bar] bookmarklet might work, it might not. Try it and see. Obviously, if they don't work, there's not much I can do about it, but it's worth a shot. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:41, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, they unfortunately do not work. The seek bar bookmarklet gives an error even (1 @ undefined) Oh well. I'll just use my display in 1024x768, since my screen is square and not widescreen. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 22:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::WHOA! It works now! The fullon I mean. (It sometimes causes the flashes to be blank, reloading the page fixes that.) {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 01:17, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

=== Revisiting Midori With 0.2.4 ===
Well, the fullon resizes the flash, but now refreshing won't fix the blank flash box. Oh well, guess I'll have to watch it small. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 00:00, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Feedburner ==

Yeah, the navbar on greasemonkey doesn't show the 'subscribe' button. Just saying. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 21:10, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
:{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Phlip/Greasemonkey&diff=681479&oldid=660845 Yes it does}}. Are you sure your script is up to date? It has an option to check for updates automatically, but maybe you've turned that off? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:18, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
::Huh, don't know why it was off. I don't '''''think''''' I turned it off. weird. Thanks! {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 21:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

== Opening as plain text ==

Firefox = check, Greasemonkey = go, and it worked a couple of weeks ago. But the Greasemonkey stuff vanished from H*R, oh, about the time the "visit our store" link appeared on it. I uninstalled and reinstalled Greasemonkey, but when I try clicking on the "click here to install" link, all it does is open the script ''in plain text'' instead of installing the script to Greasemonkey. I tried saving the script to my desktop and running it there, but it complains that, on character 1 of line 122, "document" is undefined. Um? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:15, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
:If you save it and just try to run it, it'll do [[Wikipedia:Windows Script Host|something completely different]]... that's not going to work. You might have some luck if you save it to disk and then open it in Firefox (as opposed to just double-clicking it) but it'll probably do the same thing. Is Greasemonkey enabled? Check the little monkey in the status bar, he should be all colourful and smiley (as opposed to greyscale and frowney). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:55, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
:: That was it, actually. Thanks! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

== Chrome Now Can Install... but... ==

You need to install [http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/5166 from here] instead. Unfortunately, even though Chrome has the greasemonkey APIs, your extension, Philip, doesn't work. the only portion that DOES work is the flyout settings menu when looking at a homestarrunner.com page. None of the settings can actually be saved. You need a git or development version of chrome to be able to install the script I believe, and that's easily done on ubuntu using the chromium daily ppa from launchpad. However, as said by [http://blog.chromium.org/2010/02/40000-more-extensions.html this blog] about the new feature, you will most likely have to edit your script so it works with chrome. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:50, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, I know, both Chrome and Opera and a couple of other browsers have user script engines, but most of them don't have the power necessary to run this script (neither Opera nor Chrome for instance allow cross-site AJAX requests, which are required for subtitles, rando and check-for-updates) and even the features they do have, you need to use in a different way (eg Opera doesn't have the GM_* functions, so I'd need to re-write all the preference-saving and AJAX code using other APIs). This doesn't make it ''impossible'' to make a script this complicated that will work in all these browsers... but it means it'd be a ''lot'' of work to retrofit an existing script to work.
:tl;dr: Only Firefox is supported for the foreseeable future. Like I [[#Midori_Web_Browser|said to you before]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:38, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::I just wanted to make sure that when other people ask why your script doesn't work with chrome (as, in the foreseeable future, I see chrome overtaking firefox due to google's advertising and whatnot) that they know what you have planned for the future. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 01:12, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Eating Up CPU ==

Just to warn people who have non-HT Single Core Processors (true single-cores, meaning no logical cores.) I have a 1.60 GHz true single-core processor (atoms are not true single-cores), and adding this to homestarrunner.com shoots up CPU usage to 100% on idle. Unfocusing the tab in which the script is active will bring down the CPU. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 01:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Huh, it doesn't do that for me... my computer isn't single-core, but using this script doesn't cause my usage to shoot up to a single core being fully used. It does increase the usage a bit, but not drastically... the main culprits being (a) View fullscreen - obviously, if Flash has to render a larger area, it's going to take more processing time; and (b) Seek bar/subtitles... these too mean asking the Flash object a bunch what frame it's up to... which means a lot more context switching between the browser and the plugin, and all the wrappers and whatnot that needs... which is either the fault of Flash or the plugin architecture, I'm not sure which. Anyways - if you try turning those options off, it should help with your CPU problems. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
::I've turned off fullscreen thing, nothing changed; I don't want to turn off subtitles, but I turned off the seek bar, it took up half my CPU alone. I really like the subtitles project, so I don't want that to go away. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 15:42, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Firefox 4.0 & JaegerMonkey ==

With [http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20004620-264.html Firefox 4.0] coming this year (or so it seems), they plan to implement "JaegerMonkey," a javaScript engine that rivals Safari's and Chrome's. The suffix -Monkey, sounds like it'll probably be replacing Greasemonkey or even forcing greasemonkey users to recompile their scripts all together. What do you plan to do if this happens? Keeping in mind that Firefox is the ONLY browser that works with your script, no other does. —[[User:ColdReactive|ColdReactive]] 16:08, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'll cross that bridge when we come to it. I don't see anything to suggest JägerMonkey is going to supersede GreaseMonkey (it's more likely it got the -Monkey suffix from [[Wikipedia:SpiderMonkey (JavaScript engine)|SpiderMonkey]]). So I don't expect the changes to be that drastic (there's probably going to be new features the script could potentially use, but little in the way of old features disappearing). Also: yes, I get the fact that there's a couple of dozen browsers you've asked me to port the script to... I've made it clear that isn't going to happen. Being snarky isn't going to change that. Note the big GPL header at the top of the script - if you want it to work in Opera or Chrome or Midori or whateverthecrap other browser you're using this week, you're welcome to try to figure it out yourself. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:59, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

== Resizing option for recent toons ==

Hey, Phlip. The largest monitor I have is reasonably sized and yet can't show all of past two toons at their HTML'd resolution (at least in Firefox). I admire the screen-resizing option, but with an old laptop that can only do 1024×768 that struggles enough with Flash (The one I'm using right now, in fact. It runs Linux), I'd rather not have toons in the usual 550×400 resolution being scaled. Could there be an option so that users can downsize toons to their native resolution? After all, the newer toons were made in the usual 550×400, I've heard. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:20, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, could there be an option to set our preferred vertical resolution? {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:27, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== Firefox 4 zoom ==

I just noted that when I do the normal resize thing by holding down CTRL and using the scroll wheel in firefox 4, the homestar runner flash objects all are resized as well. Is this new to Firefox 4? Or was it already introduced into 3.6.x? I swear I wasn't able to do this previously. This probably should go somewhere else, but since I only really wanted the resize portion in this script, I may just forgo keeping greasemonkey. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 20:18, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:It works as you describe in at least 3.6.13. Maybe you had "Zoom Text Only" checked. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Do not play on load" option ==

I have another feature request, but it's more of a convenience than anything. Could we have the option to have the Flash paused on page load, instead of having it automatically play? This would help someone when they restore a browser session that has multiple tabs/windows on homestarrunner.com. In my case, I find myself going to a toon, and then adjusting my settings a few times to get it just right (or, in recent cases of one of my Linux machines, getting the Flash player to appear). The bad thing is that, after doing that, the very beginning of the toon is unpleasantly seared into my brain, after hearing it several times on several occasions. Please and thanks, {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig|nodash=nodash}} 19:53, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
:Someone has told me about the Firefox extension [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bartab/ BarTab] for Firefox versions 4.0b6 and below, which doesn't automatically load tabs when a browser session is restored. Then I learned that Firefox 4 through 7 have had an option like this available as a hidden option; in Firefox 8 it will be available through the Preferences window. I guess my request is no more, seeing as I have other options. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 20:25, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
::Hahaha, what timing. Firefox 8 is out three days later. I did not see that coming. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 22:33, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

== Flipper broken ==

The flipper function (that turns the website upside down) is broken. Can you please either remove the function or mirror the flipper SWF on mrphlip.com? {{User:Dagoth/sig}} (I mean that it shows a 404'd error in place of the flipped page)
: I'll have a bit of a look, but I'm not sure it'd work to mirror the SWF... Flash tends to get tetchy about that sort of cross-domain nonsense. Anyway, I haven't really touched this script in some time, and unless the hiatus ends, I probably won't any time soon... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:48, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
:: Yeah, doesn't work. I've disabled the flipper in the script... I didn't bother to set the "updated" flag, though, so it won't get sent out through the update notification thing... no need to alert people to have to pick this up just because a feature's getting removed. If you feel the need to have the non-working option disappear from your options, though, you can just click the "install the script" link on the page here. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:50, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

== Chromified All-In-One Prototype ==

I modified the userscript to work with Chrome (I have version 28.0.1500.95). It's a bit of a hack, but hey-- it works for the most part!
I tested the basics, if anyone wants to test it, download it here: http://cl.ly/QkAX/allinone.user.js
To install:
1. Download the file (it'll likely complain that you can only use the Chrome App Store, ignore it because it's downloaded anyway)
2. Go to your Downloads folder and find allinone.user.js
3. Open the URL chrome://extensions in Chrome and drag and drop the allinone.user.js into that window.
4. Click Accept/OK/Sure/whatever it says when it asks about security to install it.
[[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 02:13, 8 August 2013 (UTC), edited 14:58, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

edit by Gh0st

yes it works kindof navigation bar works, however subtitles do not when enabled do you want to possibly contact me to work on this script gh0sti at me dot com
:Phlip's original script works (almost) perfectly fine with [https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tampermonkey/dhdgffkkebhmkfjojejmpbldmpobfkfo?hl=en tampermonkey] installed. (The almost is that the "back one frame" button has the | and the < on separate lines, making it look slightly wrong. Other than that, it's perfect.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:01, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
::I wasn't even aware that was a thing, honestly! If anything, I'm just going to keep working on this in case people don't want to download another extension for whatever reason. Also because I find it fun, cough cough. The "|<" is a problem even without tampermonkey, so it must be a Chrome thing. I'll start to look into that, even if just because of cosmetic reasons. Also, gh0st, what's the problem with the navbar/subtitles? I've got this just fine: [http://cl.ly/image/0j361g3C1x2n/i.png screenshot] [[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 20:54, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Hmm... try this:<pre>prevButton.style.whiteSpace = "nowrap";</pre>should fix the wrapping, though I haven't tested it. As for the subtitles, it looks like you're still using GM_xmlHttpRequest to fetch those, so presumably you have something set up that lets you do that... I doubt Chrome has that builtin (and what it does have builtin wouldn't let you make a replacement, since it's cross-site and all). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:09, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:::: That bit of code worked out! Although, I'm kinda confused on why Chrome would decide to wrap a button. With the subtitles, I honestly don't know what in my version of Chrome is making it work. Even with only the All-in-one extension added, it works. I tried looking it up and it seems to be implied that it was broken on version 27, but it works on 28 (which is odd in the first place because GM_ is GreaseMonkey, not Chrome), as referenced by [https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=242890 this issue in the bugtracker]. [[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 14:58, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

what if you made it a plugin in the chrome store possibly easier to update?? and philip are you back to help code it to work again?
:I decided to work on this one and came up with this buggy little .crx: http://cl.ly/Ql2w/HRAIO.crx It's got some problems with the scaling that I couldn't figure out (if anyone could help, that'd be great; I just have to wait for tomorrow to upload the source). I'm much better with making my own code than editing that of others', so I wouldn't be surprised if I made a mess out of it. But hey, now the button's in the Chrome toolbar! [[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 22:36, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

User talk:Phlip/Greasemonkey

2013-08-11T14:58:26Z

Atarifanatic: /* Chromified All-In-One Prototype */ Updated code and replied to Phlip

==Troubleshooting==
If the script doesn't seem to be working for you, please try:
#If you have Adblock, Flashblock, or similar addons installed, disable them on homestarrunner.com.
#Reinstalling the script, by clicking [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Phlip/Greasemonkey&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&fakeextension=.user.js this link].
#Uninstalling Greasemonkey (from the Tools menu in Firefox, choose Add-ons, then go to the Extensions section, click Greasemonkey, then Uninstall), and then reinstall it (from [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748 here]). You'll probably need to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Phlip/Greasemonkey&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&fakeextension=.user.js install the script] again.
If you're still having problems after that, ''then'' ask for help on this page. Be sure to mention what versions of Firefox and Flash you have, and what other extensions you have installed. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

==Release notes==
===Version 1.0 (8 Mar, 2006)===
*First released version.
*Had the fullscreen, seek bar, prev/next and wiki link features.
*Worked only on the main site.
===Version 2.0 (26 May, 2006)===
*Added the preferences menu.
*Added support for Videlectrix and the HRWiki mirror.
*Added "outside the frame", April Fools and plain HTML navbar options.
===Version 2.1 (8 Aug, 2006)===
*Tooltips in the preferences box.
*The "more better" rando link is now always on... the less better version was just ugly, so I removed it.
*You can set what types of toon are included in the rando selection.
*You have the option to make it check if the next sbemail/whatever actually exists before putting the "next" link (so there's no "next" link on the latest email).
**The only reason this wasn't there before is that it means an extra hit to the H*R servers... but now that I have the preferences things set up, so you can turn it on or off, I think that's fine.
===Version 3.0 (29 Aug, 2006)===
*Added [[HRWiki:Subtitles|subtitling]] functionality.
*Updating no longer requires uninstalling the previous version.
===Version 3.1 (27 Sep, 2006)===
*Whether to show the names next to subtitles is now a distinct setting from the one for colours - you can have neither, either or both.
*There is a button that will purge the local cache for all subtitles-related files downloaded from the wiki and reload the page, for when the cache is out of date.
*The ability to update the test subtitles without refreshing the page for every change (NB: disabled by default, see [[#Refresh Subtitles|below]]).
*Rewind and fast forward buttons on the seek bar to go to the first/last frame, respectively.
*Flash loading progress bar on the seek bar (see how much it's loaded).
===Version 3.2 (25 Sep, 2007)===
*Add option to automatically check for script updates (on by default).

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==Suggestion==
Would it make sense to change line 272 to
<pre> addHRWikiLink("Index_Page");</pre>
Then I suppose line 261 could be removed. By the way, ''amazing'' work Phlip. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:25, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I suggest that the games on videlectrix.com should be added, such as
<pre>http://www.videlectrix.com/duckguard1.html
http://videlectrix.com/duckguard1.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/racewalk.html
http://videlectrix.com/racewalk.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/hallrunner.html
http://videlectrix.com/hallrunner.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/lcd_game.html
http://videlectrix.com/lcd_game.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/thydungeonman2.html
http://videlectrix.com/thydungeonman2.html</pre>
And yeah, you rock. [[User:Libertyernie|Libertyernie]] 16:32, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:Hmm, that's a good point... I'll get on that sometime <s>(probably tomorrow)</s>. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:37, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
::The reason I thought of this was because I realized the Pause button on the seekbar can be used for skipping a level in Duck Guardian. [[User:Libertyernie|Libertyernie]] 21:47, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
==Homestar-Fullon Edit==
Using the user script I was getting a scrollbar on every page, so I edited line 411 from
<pre>var dh = window.innerHeight - 10;</pre>
to
<pre>var dh = window.innerHeight - 20;</pre>
This kept all the content in the window, but I didn't have to scroll down to see the navbar at the bottom. Did this happen to anyone else? [[User:Consonance|Consonance]] 08:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
:Not me. Works perfectly for me. --{{User:X-Spider2/X-Sigger2}} 03:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

==Eventual to-do list==
(in no particular order)
*{{done}} General cleanup of the code.
*{{done}} Work on Videlectrix.
*{{done}} Work on the mirrors (<s>[http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/ kitkorp]</s> ''(not needed with Tom working on completing the HRWiki mirror)'' and [[Mirror:|HRWiki]]).
*{{done}} Some way of turning various features on and off maybe?
**{{done}} Only if I get this working, replace the flash files with [[April Fools 2006|theyCallHimFlipper.swf]].
*{{done}} replace the navbar with text links (this is more for me than for you guys).
*{{done}} resize the seek bar when the toon resizes (if you resize the window)
*{{done}} show outside-the-frame stuff
Feel free to add suggestions. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

:I've got one. You could try "flipping the ''whole page'' upside down". You know, using the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperMainNav.swf?contentURL=main_nav.swf flipped navbar], too. And putting the navbar above the flipped toon/game. 
:Also, you could try adding A-B repeat to the seek bar, if you know enough to do that. Preferably make it a seperate sub-option in the prefs, too.
:[[do over|Totally not getting old]], {{User:X-Spider2/X-Sigger2}} 22:57, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
:I have a suggestion/request. If you could make a "play all sbemails in order" type of function, that would be really awesome. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/69.249.241.164|69.249.241.164]] 18:13, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

== Errors in installing ==

I keep getting this error: 
Error installing user script: 
 
[Exception... "Compoment returned failure code: 0x804b000a [nsIIOService.newChannel]" nsresult: "0x804b000a (<unknown>)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://strongbademailsprevnext/content/browser.xul :: getContents :: line 20" data: no] 
 
Any suggestions? {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 07:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
:"strongbademailsprevnext"? I'm guessing you have [https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1695/ this extension] installed? You might want to uninstall that... this script does that stuff too. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
::<s>Nope. I only have the script that allows it to be viewed 'full-screen'. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 22:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)</s>
::Nevermind. Turns out that they were both conflicting and I was misinterpreting the second error message. Thanks! {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 22:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 
Just as a side-note for people who run into the same problem I did: if you use a program that blends its own Javascript functions into every page you load (mainly found in ad-munching software, like Ad Muncher), make sure you disable it BEFORE installing the Greasemonkey script. Otherwise the extra code might break it, requiring you to clear your cache and install it again with the filters disabled. [[User:MNGoldenEagle|MNGoldenEagle]] 14:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

== HOW THE HECK!?!?!?!?! ==

HOW DID YOU MAKE THIS!?!?! {{User:The thing/sig}} 00:36, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

:Phlip has studied necromancy and sorcery for many years now. Other than that, it's a good diet, exercise, and a modicum of good fortune. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:44, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

::Phlip has access to both a monkey and a typewriter, so it really was only a [[Wikipedia:Infinite monkey theorem|matter of time]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:46, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

:::No, no, no... I sold my soul to Haxxina, ancient Greek goddess of programming and ruler of the underworld. In return She gave me the ability to write this script as my superpower. Just don't make me say my name backwards minus the first 'P' and we should be fine. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:52, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

::::We'll be out a free [[lunch special]]? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:58, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

== Refresh Subtitles ==
OK, this feature will need some explaining... First, go Tools→Manage User Scripts, click on "Homestar All-in-one" and click "Edit". If it asks you to choose a text editor, just pick Notepad unless you have something better. It'll look ugly in Notepad (it doesn't recognise the line endings) but it'll work. Now search for <code>if (settings.testsubs && false)</code> and change it to <code>if (settings.testsubs && true)</code>. Now you can use the feature. First you have to turn on "Test subtitles" and hit "Save and apply" as usual, but the next time after the page loads there'll be a "Refresh Subtitles" button below the text area, that re-parses the subtitles without reloading the page - invaluable to subtitle authors.

The reasons the option's not avaliable by default are:
*The interface is clumsy... sometimes the button's there, sometimes it's not there... depending on whether the test subtitles were already enabled before the page loaded... given it's something that's supposed to update stuff without a page load it can be confusing.
*It's not exhaustively tested, and has some weird side-effects (it calls <code>savesettings</code>, so if you, say, turn off the seekbar and hit "Reload Subtitles" the seekbar will remain, but it'll save that you want the seekbar turned off)...
*It's not permanent... Version 4.0 will hopefully make it so that ''all'' settings work like this, and clicking "Save and Apply" won't have to reload the page.
So it's there if you want it, but it's not cluttering up the settings boxes of people that don't want it.

Anyways, enjoy! {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== Greasemonkey install method ==
GM's changed the way it installs scripts by link. A single-click on the link will offer to install the script, the option isn't even on the right click menu anymore. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 17:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== Just the seek bar ==

Maybe for use on other sites, you could individually release the code for the seekbar. (And, if possible, include the preferences from the whole script, plus maybe external CSS skin support.) --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 04:00, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

== spellcheck ==

"Homestar" is misspelled in the warning section of the heap-o-comments at the beginning. Page is locked or I'd fix it myself. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:08, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

== Uniformity matters... again ==

Since "podcast" was added recently to the navbar, can you please update that? --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 20:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:Done. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:54, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

== Is it just me or is this broken? ==

One day the fullon part stopped working for me. And the Subtitles. And the seek bar. The corner buttons are still there. --[[User:68.55.198.213|68.55.198.213]] 11:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
:It's still working fine for me. What did you do the day that it broke? Did you install any other extensions, or scripts, or upgrade anything? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:03, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

::So It's just me. That's good to know. I poked around in the system, and determined an update to flashblock borked it. I normally don't unblock flash (even for homestarrunner.com). Adding it to the whitelist fixed the problem. Before that update, they both worked together. Thanks, and I hope this info helps someone.--[[User:68.55.198.213|68.55.198.213]] 13:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

== Not working in nightly build =( ==

In the nightly build of Firefox (Dubbed Minefield), the script has limited functionality.
The subtitle language selector doesn't work, as there are no options. I will try to clean up to make it work..right.

[[User:Onekopaka|onekopaka]] 02:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:By design, if subtitles are turned off, the script doesn't contact the wiki at all. When you turn the subtitles on, it tries to download the [[Subtitles:Languages|list of supported languages]] then. The list is empty until that finishes (I suppose I should put a "Loading..." message in there...). So wait a bit, see if it turns up. Failing that, it is a nightly build after all, you should expect some things to be broken... the name "Minefield" isn't just for show... chances are, it's a problem with either <code>GM_xmlhttpRequest</code> or <code>DOMParser</code>... and if so, then it's either a Firefox issue or a GreaseMonkey issue, and there's little I can do about it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:15, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::After looking in a Debug Console, the blame goes to..... Greasemonkey! [[User:Onekopaka|onekopaka]] 06:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Firefox 3's document.getElementById is changed so that it returns the first object. If you're using it, you might want to read up on MDC (http://developer.mozilla.org/) --[[User:24.17.113.45|24.17.113.45]] 06:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Typo... ==

You mispelled automatically. [[User:Don't press that button.|Don't press that button.]] 10:08, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
:I somehow think that's [[Portmanteau|intentional]]. {{User:Mee/sig}} 11:05, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
::If you're referring to "[http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/A/automagically.html automagically]", then yes, that's intentional. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:24, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Podcast/Podstar ==

<pre> addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/toons.html", "Toons");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/games.html", "Games");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/characters2.html", "Characters");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/downloads.html", "Downloads");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://homestarrunner.stores.yahoo.net/", "Store");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html", "SB Emails");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/email.html", "Contact");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/", "Podstar");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/legal.html", "Legal");
randolink = addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "javascript:alert('rando.xml not loaded yet... be patient')", "Rando");</pre>

Where it says Podstar, it should say Podcast. On main_nav.swf, it says podcast. Here, is says Podstar. Incorrect. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 19:00, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:The feature is called [[Podstar Runner]], though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:48, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
::My bad. Fixed. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, but if the purpose is to simulate the real main_mav bar, then it should be podcast. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 01:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. That's why I fixed it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:26, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Ah. You posted while I was still posting. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 22:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== Just a question... ==

Are you ever going to put this in the [http://dunck.us/collab/GreaseMonkeyUserScriptsSpecific#head-afce957a390e4b53ef2a03b41fd1b4c04a5f926b Greasemonkey Script Repository?] Just wondering... --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 18:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, that's the old Greasemonkey script place thing. The new one is at [http://www.userscripts.org/ userscripts.org]. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 19:00, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

== not working ==

i installed greasemonkey but there isnt anything under tools. you do mean tools that is above the adress bar, right? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 22:57, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== Tablet stuff ==

Hey, this is a really neat script. Anyway, I use a tablet computer, and I've noticed that, when viewing a toon in portrait (tall) mode, the toon will cover up the top two buttons ("settings" and "wiki") if the script is set to scale the toon to full size. This is, I imagine, because the script expects the screen to be wider than it is tall, as most computer screens are... so when that is not the case, the toon sticks around the top of the page and covers up those key buttons. This doesn't happen in normal, "landscape" mode because the toon is horizontally centered across a wide screen. If the toon were vertically centered as well, or at least nudged sixteen pixels downward when on a tall screen, those buttons and their inherent usefulness would be unveiled for all. ("Landscape" mode is, of course, the better option for viewing Homestar Runner, but I think this would be a pretty good fix nonetheless.)

There are some other things: in Firefox 3.0 beta 4, the seek bar extends too far to the right, visually (covering up the buttons to its right), and does not seem to work for changing your place in the toon. Also, the script never seems to be able to load subtitles, perpetually leaving "loading" in place of subtitle options in the pulldown menu. Oh, and the "settings" bar has most of its scrollbar obscured by the toon, oddly, though it still works.

I hope this helps in working out any kinks. If nobody else can reproduce these errors, I can provide more details. Anyway, thanks![[User:24.22.64.228|24.22.64.228]] 05:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

== 30 Frames fix? ==

For some reason, with the SBCG4AP "ad," the seek bar doesn't work at all. It counts the frame, but all the buttons (besides the zoom) doesn't work. --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 21:08, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:This has nothing to do with the high framerate (which is 24 anyway, not 30), and everything to do with the fact that the HTML file is on homestarrunner.com, but the flash file is on Telltale's servers... Flash's security gets in the way, and there's nothing that can be done about it. Best I can do is make it so that the seekbar is disabled on that toon (or, at least, make it more obvious that it's informative only, and you can't use it to control the playback). Which I'm working on. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:53, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

== 3.2.3 broken in FF 2? ==

I can't get the subtitles if I upgrade to 3.2.3. I'm using FF 2. I see that it was changed for tweaks for Firefox 3...did you notice that it breaks it in FF 2? I don't think a version that breaks it in the current version of Firefox should be released to the update. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 16:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:Oops... I didn't think to regression-test the changes in Fx 2... yeah, that doesn't work. The deal is that, in an earlier version of GreaseMonkey, DOMParser wasn't available for GM scripts to use... and you had to use some workaround to get at it. That workaround didn't work in Fx 3, but the site I got it from listed another option that did. Turns out that other option doesn't work in Fx 2. It also turns out that the workaround isn't necessary at all any more. It's gone now, and the script works in both Fx 2 and 3 (it should auto-update again in the next day or so). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks, it works now. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 14:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== Trouble dragging in FF3 ==

If you try to drag the seek bar, but are already moving the mouse when you start dragging (move it faster if it doesn't do it for you), it messes up. By messes up, I mean it flashes the cursor between a circular crossout symbol and the normal cursor as you hold it down (still moving the movie as you move), then when you release, it keeps following your mouse until you click on it again. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 20:04, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:Huh. That's... bizzare. I get a similar thing, but instead of the cursor-flashing thing you're saying, it actually starts dragging around a slightly-shrunk picture of the seekbar, and sometimes some of the surrounding buttons. I'll look into it (which I guess means I'll need to figure out how the drag-and-drop stuff in the seekbar actually works, since I didn't write that... that'll be "fun"). In the meantime: Don't do that. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::"In the meantime: Don't do that." lol yeah...It's just that I do it accidentally pretty often now, and it's annoying. I'll try to avoid it in the meantime, though. Thanks for looking into it. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 14:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:::OK, this is fixed, I think. I never found a way to reproduce it reliably, but I think I could get it about one try in 3 or 4... and I tried about 20 times now, and I can't get it to happen... let me know if it still happens for you. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
::::It seems to work now. It hasn't happened since I updated. The random button now shows the correct tooltip. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 21:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

== Plain HTML Rando Not Working in FF3? ==

I am finding if I used the plain HTML navbar with the script, it is not working and I get a dialog box saying "rando.xml has not loaded yet. Be Patient." from homestarrunner.com. Is this an issue with the official site, or did something in FF3 break it?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 22:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:It works for me, but shows the wrong URL when I roll over it. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 16:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::The wrong-URL thing should be fixed now. Things were happening in the wrong order... the tooltip and the page it would send you to if you clicked matched, but the URL in the status bar was from the previous selection... I tweaked the timing a bit, so this doesn't happen any more. I couldn't reproduce the infinite "has not loaded yet" thing... try clicking the "Clear Subtitles Cache" button in the preferences screen... the same button will clear the rando.xml cache, forcing it to really try again to download it from the server. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

== Subtitles broken ==

I'm on Firefox 3, with Adblock Plus (disabled on h*r.com and hrwiki.org), and the subtitles don't appear. I check "Show subtitles" in the options, and a list of languages appears, but when I go to anything that has subtitles - I tested it on [[Play Date]] - I get a "loading subtitles" message which disappears after a second or so. Other features like the seek bar work fine. Thanks in advance, [[Special:Contributions/24.250.112.127|24.250.112.127]] 23:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Works fine on 2.0.0.14, the latest stable build. I don't know if it's worth Phlip's time to develop for the beta, but you could revert to the stable build and it'll work. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:09, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::IP Guy: I had the same problem, but then I reinstalled the script and tested it by watching [[The Baloneyman]], and now the subtitles work again.
::Qermaq: the latest stable build is actually 3.0.0. --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 07:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, what do you know, must have been quite recently. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Update: I find the Greasemonkey extension is working flawlessly on my install of Firefox 3. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:42, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::I found that disabling AdBlock Plus for homestarrunner sites worked for me. --Rovlad.

I was about to report a problem with this, but I forgot about having to disable Adblock to get the subtitles working, even on the latest build. I'm installing Firefox in Ubuntu, and I though the crappy flash plugin was the problem.

Anyways, you may want to make this advice more prominent, in some sort of FAQ. (If you have already, well, I couldn't find it.)

--trlkly 23:48, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


== How'd you get the icon data? ==

I noticed that your icons are embedded in the script as base64 data. If you used an encoder program, which one was it? --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 00:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:It's pretty simple... just convert the picture to PNG (I use The GIMP for that... any web-friendly image format will work, but PNG is best), then [[Wikipedia:Base64|Base64]]-ify the PNG file (I just use the tool in [http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/coreutils coreutils]), and tack "<code>data:image/png;base64,</code>" on the start, then use the string as the URL for the image. Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:data URI scheme|more info]]. I'm sure there exists some online tools that let you upload files and generate the data: URIs for them... try Google. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Seekbar ==

I can't get the seekbar to work. Every time I click anywhere on it it just goes back to the beginning of the toon. I know nothing about code, mind you, so I have no idea how to fix this. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:32, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nevermind. I changed some of my Firefox settings and it works now. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:37, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
what did you do, i have the same problem [[User:Forddude1416|Forddude1416]] 19:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

== Screencapture ==

How do I get a screen capture in Ubuntu Linux? --[[User:O98-111-114-113|Blow Up the Ocean]] 20:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:This may vary (it's been a while since I used Gnome), but I believe that alt-Print Screen grabs the focused window, and Print Screen by itself grabs the entire desktop. It will either prompt you for a filename to save it as, or just save it automatically on your Desktop. It will be in PNG format, which is probably want you want. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 21:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Test subtitles script and back button ==

I do a lot of subtitle work (the AIO makes it about a million times easier/possible, BTW :) ) and so I often use the "Test subtitles script" feature to preview my scripts before I save 'em. The problem is that I usually forget to uncheck the box, so when I go to another toon, it displays the wrong subtitles. Not a big deal, of course, as I can go into the options and uncheck the box, but it's an annoyance. It'd be nice if it automatically unchecks the box. Possibly make it uncheck when you load a different toon. 
Also, if you have outside-the-frame action enabled and press the back/forward button (in the browser, not the next/previous button) to go to a page, it loads it full-screen instead of showing outside-the-frame action. 
Oh and BTW I just noticed there's a feature to zoom in/out of the toon when it's full screened, but not when it shows outside-the-frame action. Can you add that feature in outside-the-frame mode, too?
--[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 16:22, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
:The "Test subtitles script" option needs some serious rework anyway... I'd like the "Refresh subtitles" button to Just Work, rather than the sort of inconsistent mess it is now. Being able to give test subtitles for just one specific toon is a good idea... I'll add it to the list of things to do when I get around to doing that.
:The back/forward buttons and outside-the-frame: I hadn't noticed that... I'll look into it. Does everything else work with back/forward?
:As for the zoom buttons and outside-the-frame, if you use the Zoom things in Flash, then it stops doing the outside-the-frame thing... you can't zoom out further than how it behaves when you view the SWF alone (ie: either the height or width matches the height or width of your window, whichever is smaller)... and there's no way to go back to the outside-the-frame mode except by resetting it to the usual outside-the-frame size. I couldn't find any way around this... so I just got rid of the zoom buttons when that option's turned on. If you happen to know of a workaround, I'd love to hear it... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:41, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
::Ok, cool. I don't mean that I really care to see toon-specific subs that are remembered with different pages, in case that's what you thought. I just want it to be cleared when I go to a page besides the one being tested.
::I haven't noticed anything else wrong with back/forward. I've noticed that when a page loads normally, it's momentarily enlarged to full screen before it's changed to show outside-the-frame, but that when you do back/forward it doesn't change. Perhaps it's something with how FF tells scripts that the page has loaded when it comes in from memory (since it was in recent history) instead of loading for the first time. I should probably also note that when it's zoomed out after going back/forward, I can still see outside-the-frame action, but of course since it's already full-screen, I only see it on the edges (instead of being like the normal full screen mode that puts black on the sides, this allows vision on the sides).
::Do you think you could make it so if it's already at the max zoom out level, instead of just trying to tell the SWF to zoom out more (unsuccessfully), make it refresh as outside-the-frame in some way so it goes back out? Of course, that would preferably be without ''actually'' refreshing the page, so your place isn't lost like when you save a setting. This could eliminate the need for an outside-the-frame option, since if you want to zoom out when it's already all the way out, it goes to outside-the-frame, while zooming in while viewing outside-the-frame would go to full screen.
::I just got an idea to fix the issue that when you save settings it refreshes the page (more of a workaround really, something that does it without refreshing at all would be better). Let it refresh, but first remember the frame you're at and the pause/unpause status (is there anything else that would be needed to make it seem the same?) and set it to that once it refreshes. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 01:27, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

== Latest java build ==

Seems this script is incompatable with the latest Java version. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:08, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:Can you be more specific? Neither this script, nor Homestarrunner.com use Java in any way... {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 03:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

::I beg to differ. I upgraded to the most recent Java and it asked me to deactivate this. I tied to reinstall, but it does not work. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:59, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Can you still be more specific? Asked you to disabled this specific userscript, or Greasemonkey in general? Do you know the exact wording of the message? What version of Java did you update to? I just checked mine and it was at 1.6.0_04, there was an update available (to 1.6.0_07), which I just installed, restarted Firefox (and confirmed it was using the new version), and I did not see any change in the behaviour at all.
:::I'm still pretty sure Java isn't used directly here (in fact, I'm certain it isn't). But, it is possible that the Java installation changed something in the browsers security model that is messing things up. I'll try updating it on another computer tomorrow and see if I get the problem to happen there. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 05:07, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

::::Are you on a Mac? It appears to be broken on my Mac... but, it's past my bedtime right now. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 05:14, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::I am still unable to install this script. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:23, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::And I am still unable to even guess as to what your problem is... Can you answer GreenHelmet's questions above? They'll help narrow down the problem. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I am not certain how to check the Java version. I did go to the Java site and install the latest version. Greasemonkey itself seems to be properly installed, though I don't know how I can test that. Running Vista. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Hmm... can you try something for me... run notepad, and type in this:
<pre>// ==UserScript==
// @name GM Test Thing
// @description Check that Greasemonkey is working
// @include http://homestarrunner.com/*
// @include http://www.homestarrunner.com/*
// ==/UserScript==
alert("Greasemonkey's working");</pre>
::::::::Save it somewhere as "test.user.js" (include the quotes, when you type it into Notepad's "Save As" box, otherwise it'll save it as test.user.js.txt). Then open that file in Firefox, let it install the script, and go to [[HR:]]. You should get a message box coming up saying that GM's working. If not, there's something wrong with GM on your end... try uninstalling and reinstalling it. Otherwise, let me know, and I'll have to make a more detailed test. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I reinstalled Greasemonkey, and everything seems to be in order now. Something must have gotten goofed up on installation before. Thanks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:03, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== Script doesn't seem to work ==

I'm running Firefox 3, and none of the buttons, scrollbar[s], or subtitles work. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 22:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm... could you try out the things listed in the [[#Troubleshooting|brand new Troubleshooting section]]? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::Phlip, maybe you should move step 3 up to step 1? It might save some people unnecessary work ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 16:27, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Good point... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Firefox 3 does have its own downs, because Adblock Plus doesn't conflict with the script in Firefox '''2''' but does in 3. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 19:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you! ==

This thing is awesome. [[User:HomsarGuy|HomsarGuy]] 13:16, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks and feature suggestion ==

Hey! Thanks for making this script! It really makes watching H*R much easier (and better)!
 I would like to suggest a feature - it would be great to have an automatic 'next' feature to play through a whole series (like SBemail) or to play random through the whole site. This way we could watch sequential H*R without being near a mouse. (I don't know if this would infringe on the value of the SBemail DVDs) -[[User:Dutchscout|Dutchscout]] 05:48, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== Page-Overwrite? ==

It's been on my mind lately; would it be possible to get the script to overwrite the loaded Flash file on a page, or just replace the content of a page without creating security issues with Flash? In some cases, it could be helpful, as with being able to run subtitles on certain Puppet Stuff toons that don't have their own HTML page, like [[Marshie vs. Little Girl]]. We could use [[HR:default.html|default.html]] as a "dummy page", and using a URL referrer of "<code>overwrite=whateverflashhere.swf</code>" (which would be picked up by the script, not the page), would overwrite the page with your usual Homestar Runner toon-viewing code, with the Flash file in place of the usual "toon placeholder" itself? (I hope that made sense) --[[Special:Contributions/70.253.165.204|70.253.165.204]] 00:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Script broke. ==

Your Greasemonkey script doesn't work. I am using Minefield 3.2a1pre and Flash Player 10. I also modified Greasemonkey to make it work with Minefield. {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 08:11, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:Try everything in the [[#Troubleshooting|Troubleshooting section]]. If that doesn't help, read through [http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html this] and try again. Incidentally, "Minefield" has that codename for a reason... that Greasemonkey works at all (especially after you modified it) should be considered a stroke of luck. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== 2 things ==

1:Thanks!I really wanted a bigger screen.
2:Is it possible to make it work with the [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com kitkorp] mirror?

== subtitles stopped working ==

I just noticed it today. I used it and it worked fine the other day. It seems that the script isn't finding the list of languages at [[Subtitles:Languages]] (the Subtitles Language select box doesn't have any entries). I do have AdBlock Plus but disabled it temporarily with no change. I'm using Firefox 3.0.11 with Greasemonkey 0.8.20090123.1 and the newest All-in-one script from [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey]] (3.2.7). Perhaps it's related to "We will be making adjustments to the server throughout the evening, including upgrading to MediaWiki 1.15."? See also [[HRWiki_talk:Subtitles#Subitles_Not_Working?]] --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 03:11, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
:It's related to the [[HRWiki:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.15|new upgrade]] and the move to the /wiki/ URLs... it should be fixed now. The script should automatically prompt you to update it sometime in the next day or so, or you can just hit the install link on [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|the script page]] to do it yourself. If you're still not getting subtitles, it could be because you hit the "Save" or "Clear cache" buttons in the config panel while the subtitles were broken... in that case, just open up the config panel, make sure that the "language" option is set, and hit save. That should bring them back. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:27, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks, it works now. :) --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 20:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== sbemail201 & hremail3184 ==

Someone needs to fix the back/forward links for the Sbemails, because Sbemail #201 is actually Hremail #3184 in the URL!!! {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 22:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Not Compatible with Firefox 3? ==

Ever since upgrading to FF3, this script hasn't been working at all.
:I'm running Firefox 3.5 (on Windows) and it's working fine for me (it worked fine for me on 3.0). Did you try the troubleshooting options [[#Troubleshooting|listed above]]? I've had problems with AdBlock plus so I added an exception to [[homestarrunner.com|hr.com]], [[Main Page|hrwiki.org]] and [[videlectrix]]. If they don't work, can you provide more information regarding your problem? (Such as what platform and how does the script fail?) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:18, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

::I got it. I had to reinstall Greasemonkey, then update it, then reinstall the HR script.

== Some code for a more streamlined "Hide" ability ==

This is one way that crossed my mind. You'd have to replace the two lines in transcriptLoaded:

<pre>line.text = importNodes(lines[i]);
transcript.push(line);</pre>

With this:

<pre>var hideEnds = true;
for (var j = lines[i].firstChild; j; j = j.nextSibling)
{
// Looks for a "hide" element, and divides the line into two if one is found.
if(j.nodeType == j.ELEMENT_NODE && j.nodeName.toLowerCase() == "hide" && hideEnds)
{
// If no frame number is specified, make the last frame of hiding really big, so it never stops hiding
var hideUntil = 100000;
if(j.hasAttribute("frame"))
{
hideUntil = parseInt(j.getAttribute("frame"), 10);
if(isNaN(hideUntil) && settings.TestSubs)
transcriptError("Hide frame \"" + j.getAttribute("frame") + "\" is not a number");
}
if(hideUntil < line.start && settings.TestSubs)
{
transcriptError("Hide frame \"" + j.getAttribute("frame") + "\" is too early");
}
var firstLine = line;
if(hideuntil < line.end)
{
firstLine.end = hideuntil;
}
else
{
hideEnds = false;
}
j.setNodeName("span");
j.setAttribute("visibility", "hidden");
firstLine.text = importNodes(lines[i]);
transcript.push(firstLine);
j.setAttribute("visibility", "visible");
line.start = hideuntil;
}
}
if(hideEnds)
{
line.text = importNodes(lines[i]);
transcript.push(line);
}</pre>

I'm kinda shaky on the programming language and its nuances, though. Especially "setNodeName", or whether "span" would work without a "/span" (or if adding a "/span" is possible). Also, it's very possible I made a mistake.

If it works, though, it should allow you to add <hide frame="123" /> and it would hide everything after it on a line until frame 123. You wouldn't have to put in multiple lines that way. Even a <hide/> tag should just simply hide everything else on the line, period (unless the toon becomes 100000+ frames in length AND the line comes after that point, but that hasn't happened yet and probably will never.)

Thoughts? Fixes? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:31, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

: PS. Another useful addition would be the ability to write overlapping lines separately and have them all display. Would be useful for when characters semi-interrupt or speak over one another. [[Crystal Fortress]]'s subs were a pain to write without this feature. I don't have code for it, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:56, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::Also for sound effects that are shorter than the dialogue, etc. Perhaps though it should be a different element called "<nowiki><overlap></nowiki>" with the same syntax as line, just to keep the error checking for people who don't intend to overlap lines. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::That <hide> tag sounds like a good idea, that's definitely going on my todo list. Maybe not the way you describe, though... rather than just having the empty tag hide everything from here to the end of the line, have something like "<code>first part <hide frame="100">second part</hide></code>"... it'd make more sense, I think, and be easier to code up. Maybe it should have <code>start</code> and <code>end</code> attributes instead, so things can disappear instead of appearing? Optional, of course, so you can have just a <code>start</code> and no <code>end</code>, and have it behave like you describe.
:::As for overlapping lines, it's something that I've considered before, but never really looked into, as it could be kinda tricky. In particular, arranging the lines... if you have two lines at once, and the first one ends, you want the second one to stay on the second line, with a gap above it (it could move upwards, but that'd be confusing)... and then, if a third line starts, it'd make sense to put it in the gap above the second line... but it may not fit, if it's a long line that word-wraps, or has the <code>volume</code> attribute turned up, or something. So there's an optimisation problem there to arrange all the lines without it being so tall that it runs out of space. But I may be overthinking it here, and a greedy heuristic is probably enough. I'll try it, and see what happens.
:::But don't hold your breath for either of these... I can't guarantee how long they'll take to write... what with the full-time work and all, I'm often not in the mood for programming outside work... but we'll see. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:58, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::::We could create a <code>lineindex</code> attribute to fix that problem. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 14:21, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Not really... maybe if every line was exactly the same height, it'd work, but that's not necessarily the case, with <code>volume</code> and word-wrap. Indeed, with word-wrap, the same line could be different heights on different computers, even with the same subtitles script. Much better to have a dynamic solution. It'd be less work for the transcribers that way anyway, which is kinda the point of this whole thing. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Midori Web Browser ==

You probably don't use linux but, your script does not work with midori's built in userscript engine. I want it to work with midori but do not know why it isn't working. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:11, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:The script uses a bunch of GreaseMonkey-specific features, for things like saving the preferences or loading subtitles from the wiki. From [http://wiki.xfce.org/midori_faq#user_scripts what I can tell], Midori doesn't support any of those (note the part that says "Midori also does not support greasemonkey's api"). I looked into it briefly before, when I was considering supporting Opera... but without those features, it would be a lot of work. Maybe I'll take another look in the future, but don't hold your breath. (Incidentally: Yes, I do use Linux.) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::I don't need preferences if I can just have a userscript that does the following:
::* Stretches the flash
::* Check if next toon exists
::* Has the seek bar
::But I guess it's still not possible. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:48, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Like I said, it would be a heck of a lot of work to retrofit the script to not depend on Greasemonkey. That includes stripping out the script so that only some features are available - all the different features are pretty interconnected at the moment, it's hard to remove just one of them. It's my long-term plan to clean up the script and make it simpler to manage, but that's been my long-term plan since before the subtitles thing started 3 years ago, and I still haven't even started, so don't hold your breath. And anyway, that "check if the next toon exists" thing is one of the things that depends on the GM API, so even if I could quickly strip down the features, I couldn't do that one easily.
:::However! You might have some luck with the original scripts that the all-in-one script was based on. I suspect that the [http://userscripts.org/scripts/review/633 Homestar Full-on] ''could'' work in other browsers that have userscript features... I haven't tried it, but it looks like it could work (it doesn't depend on GreaseMonkey, but it might implicitly depend on Firefox, that's harder to tell just by looking at the script). The [https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/flash.html seek bar] bookmarklet might work, it might not. Try it and see. Obviously, if they don't work, there's not much I can do about it, but it's worth a shot. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:41, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, they unfortunately do not work. The seek bar bookmarklet gives an error even (1 @ undefined) Oh well. I'll just use my display in 1024x768, since my screen is square and not widescreen. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 22:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::WHOA! It works now! The fullon I mean. (It sometimes causes the flashes to be blank, reloading the page fixes that.) {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 01:17, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

=== Revisiting Midori With 0.2.4 ===
Well, the fullon resizes the flash, but now refreshing won't fix the blank flash box. Oh well, guess I'll have to watch it small. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 00:00, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Feedburner ==

Yeah, the navbar on greasemonkey doesn't show the 'subscribe' button. Just saying. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 21:10, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
:{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Phlip/Greasemonkey&diff=681479&oldid=660845 Yes it does}}. Are you sure your script is up to date? It has an option to check for updates automatically, but maybe you've turned that off? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:18, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
::Huh, don't know why it was off. I don't '''''think''''' I turned it off. weird. Thanks! {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 21:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

== Opening as plain text ==

Firefox = check, Greasemonkey = go, and it worked a couple of weeks ago. But the Greasemonkey stuff vanished from H*R, oh, about the time the "visit our store" link appeared on it. I uninstalled and reinstalled Greasemonkey, but when I try clicking on the "click here to install" link, all it does is open the script ''in plain text'' instead of installing the script to Greasemonkey. I tried saving the script to my desktop and running it there, but it complains that, on character 1 of line 122, "document" is undefined. Um? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:15, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
:If you save it and just try to run it, it'll do [[Wikipedia:Windows Script Host|something completely different]]... that's not going to work. You might have some luck if you save it to disk and then open it in Firefox (as opposed to just double-clicking it) but it'll probably do the same thing. Is Greasemonkey enabled? Check the little monkey in the status bar, he should be all colourful and smiley (as opposed to greyscale and frowney). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:55, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
:: That was it, actually. Thanks! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

== Chrome Now Can Install... but... ==

You need to install [http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/5166 from here] instead. Unfortunately, even though Chrome has the greasemonkey APIs, your extension, Philip, doesn't work. the only portion that DOES work is the flyout settings menu when looking at a homestarrunner.com page. None of the settings can actually be saved. You need a git or development version of chrome to be able to install the script I believe, and that's easily done on ubuntu using the chromium daily ppa from launchpad. However, as said by [http://blog.chromium.org/2010/02/40000-more-extensions.html this blog] about the new feature, you will most likely have to edit your script so it works with chrome. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:50, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, I know, both Chrome and Opera and a couple of other browsers have user script engines, but most of them don't have the power necessary to run this script (neither Opera nor Chrome for instance allow cross-site AJAX requests, which are required for subtitles, rando and check-for-updates) and even the features they do have, you need to use in a different way (eg Opera doesn't have the GM_* functions, so I'd need to re-write all the preference-saving and AJAX code using other APIs). This doesn't make it ''impossible'' to make a script this complicated that will work in all these browsers... but it means it'd be a ''lot'' of work to retrofit an existing script to work.
:tl;dr: Only Firefox is supported for the foreseeable future. Like I [[#Midori_Web_Browser|said to you before]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:38, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::I just wanted to make sure that when other people ask why your script doesn't work with chrome (as, in the foreseeable future, I see chrome overtaking firefox due to google's advertising and whatnot) that they know what you have planned for the future. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 01:12, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Eating Up CPU ==

Just to warn people who have non-HT Single Core Processors (true single-cores, meaning no logical cores.) I have a 1.60 GHz true single-core processor (atoms are not true single-cores), and adding this to homestarrunner.com shoots up CPU usage to 100% on idle. Unfocusing the tab in which the script is active will bring down the CPU. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 01:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Huh, it doesn't do that for me... my computer isn't single-core, but using this script doesn't cause my usage to shoot up to a single core being fully used. It does increase the usage a bit, but not drastically... the main culprits being (a) View fullscreen - obviously, if Flash has to render a larger area, it's going to take more processing time; and (b) Seek bar/subtitles... these too mean asking the Flash object a bunch what frame it's up to... which means a lot more context switching between the browser and the plugin, and all the wrappers and whatnot that needs... which is either the fault of Flash or the plugin architecture, I'm not sure which. Anyways - if you try turning those options off, it should help with your CPU problems. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
::I've turned off fullscreen thing, nothing changed; I don't want to turn off subtitles, but I turned off the seek bar, it took up half my CPU alone. I really like the subtitles project, so I don't want that to go away. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 15:42, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Firefox 4.0 & JaegerMonkey ==

With [http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20004620-264.html Firefox 4.0] coming this year (or so it seems), they plan to implement "JaegerMonkey," a javaScript engine that rivals Safari's and Chrome's. The suffix -Monkey, sounds like it'll probably be replacing Greasemonkey or even forcing greasemonkey users to recompile their scripts all together. What do you plan to do if this happens? Keeping in mind that Firefox is the ONLY browser that works with your script, no other does. —[[User:ColdReactive|ColdReactive]] 16:08, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'll cross that bridge when we come to it. I don't see anything to suggest JägerMonkey is going to supersede GreaseMonkey (it's more likely it got the -Monkey suffix from [[Wikipedia:SpiderMonkey (JavaScript engine)|SpiderMonkey]]). So I don't expect the changes to be that drastic (there's probably going to be new features the script could potentially use, but little in the way of old features disappearing). Also: yes, I get the fact that there's a couple of dozen browsers you've asked me to port the script to... I've made it clear that isn't going to happen. Being snarky isn't going to change that. Note the big GPL header at the top of the script - if you want it to work in Opera or Chrome or Midori or whateverthecrap other browser you're using this week, you're welcome to try to figure it out yourself. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:59, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

== Resizing option for recent toons ==

Hey, Phlip. The largest monitor I have is reasonably sized and yet can't show all of past two toons at their HTML'd resolution (at least in Firefox). I admire the screen-resizing option, but with an old laptop that can only do 1024×768 that struggles enough with Flash (The one I'm using right now, in fact. It runs Linux), I'd rather not have toons in the usual 550×400 resolution being scaled. Could there be an option so that users can downsize toons to their native resolution? After all, the newer toons were made in the usual 550×400, I've heard. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:20, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, could there be an option to set our preferred vertical resolution? {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:27, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== Firefox 4 zoom ==

I just noted that when I do the normal resize thing by holding down CTRL and using the scroll wheel in firefox 4, the homestar runner flash objects all are resized as well. Is this new to Firefox 4? Or was it already introduced into 3.6.x? I swear I wasn't able to do this previously. This probably should go somewhere else, but since I only really wanted the resize portion in this script, I may just forgo keeping greasemonkey. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 20:18, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:It works as you describe in at least 3.6.13. Maybe you had "Zoom Text Only" checked. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Do not play on load" option ==

I have another feature request, but it's more of a convenience than anything. Could we have the option to have the Flash paused on page load, instead of having it automatically play? This would help someone when they restore a browser session that has multiple tabs/windows on homestarrunner.com. In my case, I find myself going to a toon, and then adjusting my settings a few times to get it just right (or, in recent cases of one of my Linux machines, getting the Flash player to appear). The bad thing is that, after doing that, the very beginning of the toon is unpleasantly seared into my brain, after hearing it several times on several occasions. Please and thanks, {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig|nodash=nodash}} 19:53, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
:Someone has told me about the Firefox extension [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bartab/ BarTab] for Firefox versions 4.0b6 and below, which doesn't automatically load tabs when a browser session is restored. Then I learned that Firefox 4 through 7 have had an option like this available as a hidden option; in Firefox 8 it will be available through the Preferences window. I guess my request is no more, seeing as I have other options. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 20:25, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
::Hahaha, what timing. Firefox 8 is out three days later. I did not see that coming. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 22:33, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

== Flipper broken ==

The flipper function (that turns the website upside down) is broken. Can you please either remove the function or mirror the flipper SWF on mrphlip.com? {{User:Dagoth/sig}} (I mean that it shows a 404'd error in place of the flipped page)
: I'll have a bit of a look, but I'm not sure it'd work to mirror the SWF... Flash tends to get tetchy about that sort of cross-domain nonsense. Anyway, I haven't really touched this script in some time, and unless the hiatus ends, I probably won't any time soon... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:48, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
:: Yeah, doesn't work. I've disabled the flipper in the script... I didn't bother to set the "updated" flag, though, so it won't get sent out through the update notification thing... no need to alert people to have to pick this up just because a feature's getting removed. If you feel the need to have the non-working option disappear from your options, though, you can just click the "install the script" link on the page here. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:50, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

== Chromified All-In-One Prototype ==

I modified the userscript to work with Chrome (I have version 28.0.1500.95). It's a bit of a hack, but hey-- it works for the most part!
I tested the basics, if anyone wants to test it, download it here: http://cl.ly/QkAX/allinone.user.js
To install:
1. Download the file (it'll likely complain that you can only use the Chrome App Store, ignore it because it's downloaded anyway)
2. Go to your Downloads folder and find allinone.user.js
3. Open the URL chrome://extensions in Chrome and drag and drop the allinone.user.js into that window.
4. Click Accept/OK/Sure/whatever it says when it asks about security to install it.
[[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 02:13, 8 August 2013 (UTC), edited 14:58, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

edit by Gh0st

yes it works kindof navigation bar works, however subtitles do not when enabled do you want to possibly contact me to work on this script gh0sti at me dot com
:Phlip's original script works (almost) perfectly fine with [https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tampermonkey/dhdgffkkebhmkfjojejmpbldmpobfkfo?hl=en tampermonkey] installed. (The almost is that the "back one frame" button has the | and the < on separate lines, making it look slightly wrong. Other than that, it's perfect.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:01, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
::I wasn't even aware that was a thing, honestly! If anything, I'm just going to keep working on this in case people don't want to download another extension for whatever reason. Also because I find it fun, cough cough. The "|<" is a problem even without tampermonkey, so it must be a Chrome thing. I'll start to look into that, even if just because of cosmetic reasons. Also, gh0st, what's the problem with the navbar/subtitles? I've got this just fine: [http://cl.ly/image/0j361g3C1x2n/i.png screenshot] [[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 20:54, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:::Hmm... try this:<pre>prevButton.style.whiteSpace = "nowrap";</pre>should fix the wrapping, though I haven't tested it. As for the subtitles, it looks like you're still using GM_xmlHttpRequest to fetch those, so presumably you have something set up that lets you do that... I doubt Chrome has that builtin (and what it does have builtin wouldn't let you make a replacement, since it's cross-site and all). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:09, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:::: That bit of code worked out! Although, I'm kinda confused on why Chrome would decide to wrap a button. With the subtitles, I honestly don't know what in my version of Chrome is making it work. Even with only the All-in-one extension added, it works. I tried looking it up and it seems to be implied that it was broken on version 27, but it works on 28 (which is odd in the first place because GM_ is GreaseMonkey, not Chrome), as referenced by [https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=242890 this issue in the bugtracker]. [[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 14:58, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

what if you made it a plugin in the chrome store possibly easier to update?? and philip are you back to help code it to work again?

User:Atarifanatic

2013-08-11T06:56:36Z

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Likes: computers, x86 ASM, C, Python, anime, jazz, yakisoba, Homestar Runner (obviously) 
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Xeriouxly Forxe

2013-08-11T06:28:21Z

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[[File:HSR Xeriouxly Forxe.png|thumb|250px|"Xhut up and juxt xay your linex!"]]
On [[Holidays#April Fools' Day (April 1st)|April Fools' Day]] 2010, Homestar and the other main characters get "xtreme" new forms for the nineties!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Homestar Runner}}/H. Star, {{film|Strong Bad}}/S. Bad, {{film|Pom Pom}}/Pom, {{film|Marzipan}}/M.Z. Pan, {{film|Coach Z}}/Zoach C, {{film|The Poopsmith}}/The Smith, {{film|Strong Sad}}/S. Sad, {{film|The Cheat}}/Ch8t, {{film|Strong Mad}}/S. Mad, {{film|Bubs}}/Bubz, {{film|The King of Town}}/Xing Town, {{film|Homsar}}/Still Homsar

'''Places:''' [[The Field]]

'''Date:''' Wednesday, March 31, 2010 (around 23:00 ET)

'''Running Time:''' 0:54

'''Page Title:''' Exerybody! Exerybody!

==Transcript==
''{Homestar Runner is running across The Field. The singers sing along, as with the [[Intro]].}''

'''SINGERS:''' Everybody! Everybody!

''{The scene starts to skip.}''

'''SINGERS:''' Eh-! Eh-! Eh-!

''{The scene skips faster before a rock version of the Intro takes over. The aspect ratio expands from standard to widescreen. During the rock intro, it shows [[Xeriouxly Forxe Visuals|slides of the characters]]. In turn, lightning turns the characters into their [[Xeriouxly Forxe Character Variations|Xeriouxly Forxe forms]].}''

'''SINGER:''' Everybody! E-e-e-everybody! 
Everybody! E-e-e-everybody! 
Everybody! E-e-e-everybody! 
Revamped for the nineties! 
So much more exciting!

Pointy elbows and lots of lightning! 
Edgy and angry, so zesty and tangy! 
There's new demographics 
When nobody asked for it! 

Everybody! E-e-e-everybody! 
Right now!

''{The sides of the screen come together with an explosion. All twelve main characters in Xeriouxly Forxe style appear around the title "HSR Xeriouxly Forxe".}''

'''H. STAR:''' ''{struggling, through gritted teeth}'' Xeriouxly Forxe! ''{turning around}'' Did I say that right?

'''S. BAD:''' ''{also through gritted teeth}'' Xhut up and juxt xay your linex! ''{mumbling, in Strong Bad's normal voice}'' Aah, it's really hard to talk like xhix.

''{After a few moments, the viewer is redirected to [[Main Page 21]].}''

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*The whole toon is based on the phenomenon of classic cartoons that have received [[tvtropes:DarkerAndEdgier|unnecessarily edgy revamps]]. 

===Trivia===
*The [[FeedBurner Page#Toons - Homestar Runner: XERIOUXLY FORXE!|RSS description]] of this toon is:
<blockquote>Homestar and Strong Bad are BACK like you've never seen them before! Pointier, angrier, pre-teenier!! The 6-12 demographic won't know what hit em when they witness Xeriouxly Forxe, the all-new adventures of Homestar Runner and friends with a bold new look and an edgier style that just screams, "Hey 6-12 demographic! Do you know what hit you? Can you tell our focus group person that you don't know what hit you, please?" With all those X's in the name, it has to be cool! </blockquote>
*This toon marked the first time in nearly five months that [[homestarrunner.com]] received a new toon.
*[[Appearances by All 12 Main Characters|All 12 main characters]] appear in this toon.
*This is the third toon in the site to be in [[Widescreen Toons|widescreen]], and the first non-[[Strong Bad Email]] toon to be in said format (not counting [[Main Page 22]]).
*This toon has exactly [[666]] frames, though the viewers are redirected to [[Main Page 21]] in frame number 645, and nothing else happens in the extra frames.

===Remarks===
*Except for Homsar (who doesn't change at all), every character that normally [[Lack of visible arms|lacks visible arms]] gains some sort of appendages (Marzipan gains tentacles) when upgraded.
*Coach Z and the King of Town have [[Lack of Visible Body Parts|gained visible mouths]].
*Homestar's eyes blink in their usual pattern, even though the video at the beginning is supposedly skipping.
**The background also only slightly skips back and then continues as normal, not matching the audio skip.

===Goofs===
*While The Smith raises his ax, you can see a small part of it through his forehead.

===Fixed Goofs===
*After The Poopsmith is transformed, the cutaway to the next character showed The Poopsmith in non-transformed form. This was fixed within a half-hour of release.

===Inside References===
*S. Sad has the head of an [[elephant]].
*[[Seriously|Xeriouxly]] is in the new name.
*The Cheat used "Ch8t" previously in [[mile]] and [[bedtime story]].
*The [[Teen Girl Squad]] were said to be "revamped for the nineties" in [[Homestarrunner.com PAY PLUS!]].
*The line "There's new demographics when nobody asked for it" is reminiscent of "The CROSSOVER no one was asking for!" from an Easter Egg in [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 14#Easter Eggs|Teen Girl Squad Issue 14]].
*Zoach C's boots bear a similarity to [[Stinkoman]]'s.
*Zoach C's name is a [[spoonerism]].
*The [[explosion]] behind the logo is the same one used when the [[Visor Robot]] malfunctions in [[Senor Mortgage]].

===Real-World References===
*H. Star has [[Wikipedia:Doctor Octopus|Doctor Octopus]]-style mechanical arms strapped around his neck.
*S. Bad has a variation of the [[Batman]] emblem on his mask.


===Fast Forward===
*Soon after this toon was released, Xeriouxly Forxe got its own Main Page, [[Main Page 26]], where they would X-ify [[Marshie]] and [[The Stick]].

==See also==
*[[Xeriouxly Forxe Character Variations]]
*[[Xeriouxly Forxe Visuals]]

==External Links==
{{extlinks|aprilfool10|16234}}

[[Category:April Fools]][[Category:Songs]][[Category:Widescreen Toons]]

User talk:Phlip/Greasemonkey

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Atarifanatic: /* Chromified All-In-One Prototype */

==Troubleshooting==
If the script doesn't seem to be working for you, please try:
#If you have Adblock, Flashblock, or similar addons installed, disable them on homestarrunner.com.
#Reinstalling the script, by clicking [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Phlip/Greasemonkey&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&fakeextension=.user.js this link].
#Uninstalling Greasemonkey (from the Tools menu in Firefox, choose Add-ons, then go to the Extensions section, click Greasemonkey, then Uninstall), and then reinstall it (from [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748 here]). You'll probably need to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Phlip/Greasemonkey&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&fakeextension=.user.js install the script] again.
If you're still having problems after that, ''then'' ask for help on this page. Be sure to mention what versions of Firefox and Flash you have, and what other extensions you have installed. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

==Release notes==
===Version 1.0 (8 Mar, 2006)===
*First released version.
*Had the fullscreen, seek bar, prev/next and wiki link features.
*Worked only on the main site.
===Version 2.0 (26 May, 2006)===
*Added the preferences menu.
*Added support for Videlectrix and the HRWiki mirror.
*Added "outside the frame", April Fools and plain HTML navbar options.
===Version 2.1 (8 Aug, 2006)===
*Tooltips in the preferences box.
*The "more better" rando link is now always on... the less better version was just ugly, so I removed it.
*You can set what types of toon are included in the rando selection.
*You have the option to make it check if the next sbemail/whatever actually exists before putting the "next" link (so there's no "next" link on the latest email).
**The only reason this wasn't there before is that it means an extra hit to the H*R servers... but now that I have the preferences things set up, so you can turn it on or off, I think that's fine.
===Version 3.0 (29 Aug, 2006)===
*Added [[HRWiki:Subtitles|subtitling]] functionality.
*Updating no longer requires uninstalling the previous version.
===Version 3.1 (27 Sep, 2006)===
*Whether to show the names next to subtitles is now a distinct setting from the one for colours - you can have neither, either or both.
*There is a button that will purge the local cache for all subtitles-related files downloaded from the wiki and reload the page, for when the cache is out of date.
*The ability to update the test subtitles without refreshing the page for every change (NB: disabled by default, see [[#Refresh Subtitles|below]]).
*Rewind and fast forward buttons on the seek bar to go to the first/last frame, respectively.
*Flash loading progress bar on the seek bar (see how much it's loaded).
===Version 3.2 (25 Sep, 2007)===
*Add option to automatically check for script updates (on by default).

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==Suggestion==
Would it make sense to change line 272 to
<pre> addHRWikiLink("Index_Page");</pre>
Then I suppose line 261 could be removed. By the way, ''amazing'' work Phlip. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:25, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I suggest that the games on videlectrix.com should be added, such as
<pre>http://www.videlectrix.com/duckguard1.html
http://videlectrix.com/duckguard1.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/racewalk.html
http://videlectrix.com/racewalk.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/hallrunner.html
http://videlectrix.com/hallrunner.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/lcd_game.html
http://videlectrix.com/lcd_game.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/thydungeonman2.html
http://videlectrix.com/thydungeonman2.html</pre>
And yeah, you rock. [[User:Libertyernie|Libertyernie]] 16:32, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:Hmm, that's a good point... I'll get on that sometime <s>(probably tomorrow)</s>. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:37, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
::The reason I thought of this was because I realized the Pause button on the seekbar can be used for skipping a level in Duck Guardian. [[User:Libertyernie|Libertyernie]] 21:47, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
==Homestar-Fullon Edit==
Using the user script I was getting a scrollbar on every page, so I edited line 411 from
<pre>var dh = window.innerHeight - 10;</pre>
to
<pre>var dh = window.innerHeight - 20;</pre>
This kept all the content in the window, but I didn't have to scroll down to see the navbar at the bottom. Did this happen to anyone else? [[User:Consonance|Consonance]] 08:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
:Not me. Works perfectly for me. --{{User:X-Spider2/X-Sigger2}} 03:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

==Eventual to-do list==
(in no particular order)
*{{done}} General cleanup of the code.
*{{done}} Work on Videlectrix.
*{{done}} Work on the mirrors (<s>[http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/ kitkorp]</s> ''(not needed with Tom working on completing the HRWiki mirror)'' and [[Mirror:|HRWiki]]).
*{{done}} Some way of turning various features on and off maybe?
**{{done}} Only if I get this working, replace the flash files with [[April Fools 2006|theyCallHimFlipper.swf]].
*{{done}} replace the navbar with text links (this is more for me than for you guys).
*{{done}} resize the seek bar when the toon resizes (if you resize the window)
*{{done}} show outside-the-frame stuff
Feel free to add suggestions. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

:I've got one. You could try "flipping the ''whole page'' upside down". You know, using the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperMainNav.swf?contentURL=main_nav.swf flipped navbar], too. And putting the navbar above the flipped toon/game. 
:Also, you could try adding A-B repeat to the seek bar, if you know enough to do that. Preferably make it a seperate sub-option in the prefs, too.
:[[do over|Totally not getting old]], {{User:X-Spider2/X-Sigger2}} 22:57, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
:I have a suggestion/request. If you could make a "play all sbemails in order" type of function, that would be really awesome. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/69.249.241.164|69.249.241.164]] 18:13, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

== Errors in installing ==

I keep getting this error: 
Error installing user script: 
 
[Exception... "Compoment returned failure code: 0x804b000a [nsIIOService.newChannel]" nsresult: "0x804b000a (<unknown>)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://strongbademailsprevnext/content/browser.xul :: getContents :: line 20" data: no] 
 
Any suggestions? {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 07:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
:"strongbademailsprevnext"? I'm guessing you have [https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1695/ this extension] installed? You might want to uninstall that... this script does that stuff too. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
::<s>Nope. I only have the script that allows it to be viewed 'full-screen'. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 22:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)</s>
::Nevermind. Turns out that they were both conflicting and I was misinterpreting the second error message. Thanks! {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 22:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 
Just as a side-note for people who run into the same problem I did: if you use a program that blends its own Javascript functions into every page you load (mainly found in ad-munching software, like Ad Muncher), make sure you disable it BEFORE installing the Greasemonkey script. Otherwise the extra code might break it, requiring you to clear your cache and install it again with the filters disabled. [[User:MNGoldenEagle|MNGoldenEagle]] 14:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

== HOW THE HECK!?!?!?!?! ==

HOW DID YOU MAKE THIS!?!?! {{User:The thing/sig}} 00:36, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

:Phlip has studied necromancy and sorcery for many years now. Other than that, it's a good diet, exercise, and a modicum of good fortune. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:44, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

::Phlip has access to both a monkey and a typewriter, so it really was only a [[Wikipedia:Infinite monkey theorem|matter of time]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:46, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

:::No, no, no... I sold my soul to Haxxina, ancient Greek goddess of programming and ruler of the underworld. In return She gave me the ability to write this script as my superpower. Just don't make me say my name backwards minus the first 'P' and we should be fine. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:52, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

::::We'll be out a free [[lunch special]]? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:58, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

== Refresh Subtitles ==
OK, this feature will need some explaining... First, go Tools→Manage User Scripts, click on "Homestar All-in-one" and click "Edit". If it asks you to choose a text editor, just pick Notepad unless you have something better. It'll look ugly in Notepad (it doesn't recognise the line endings) but it'll work. Now search for <code>if (settings.testsubs && false)</code> and change it to <code>if (settings.testsubs && true)</code>. Now you can use the feature. First you have to turn on "Test subtitles" and hit "Save and apply" as usual, but the next time after the page loads there'll be a "Refresh Subtitles" button below the text area, that re-parses the subtitles without reloading the page - invaluable to subtitle authors.

The reasons the option's not avaliable by default are:
*The interface is clumsy... sometimes the button's there, sometimes it's not there... depending on whether the test subtitles were already enabled before the page loaded... given it's something that's supposed to update stuff without a page load it can be confusing.
*It's not exhaustively tested, and has some weird side-effects (it calls <code>savesettings</code>, so if you, say, turn off the seekbar and hit "Reload Subtitles" the seekbar will remain, but it'll save that you want the seekbar turned off)...
*It's not permanent... Version 4.0 will hopefully make it so that ''all'' settings work like this, and clicking "Save and Apply" won't have to reload the page.
So it's there if you want it, but it's not cluttering up the settings boxes of people that don't want it.

Anyways, enjoy! {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== Greasemonkey install method ==
GM's changed the way it installs scripts by link. A single-click on the link will offer to install the script, the option isn't even on the right click menu anymore. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 17:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== Just the seek bar ==

Maybe for use on other sites, you could individually release the code for the seekbar. (And, if possible, include the preferences from the whole script, plus maybe external CSS skin support.) --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 04:00, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

== spellcheck ==

"Homestar" is misspelled in the warning section of the heap-o-comments at the beginning. Page is locked or I'd fix it myself. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:08, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

== Uniformity matters... again ==

Since "podcast" was added recently to the navbar, can you please update that? --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 20:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:Done. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:54, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

== Is it just me or is this broken? ==

One day the fullon part stopped working for me. And the Subtitles. And the seek bar. The corner buttons are still there. --[[User:68.55.198.213|68.55.198.213]] 11:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
:It's still working fine for me. What did you do the day that it broke? Did you install any other extensions, or scripts, or upgrade anything? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:03, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

::So It's just me. That's good to know. I poked around in the system, and determined an update to flashblock borked it. I normally don't unblock flash (even for homestarrunner.com). Adding it to the whitelist fixed the problem. Before that update, they both worked together. Thanks, and I hope this info helps someone.--[[User:68.55.198.213|68.55.198.213]] 13:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

== Not working in nightly build =( ==

In the nightly build of Firefox (Dubbed Minefield), the script has limited functionality.
The subtitle language selector doesn't work, as there are no options. I will try to clean up to make it work..right.

[[User:Onekopaka|onekopaka]] 02:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:By design, if subtitles are turned off, the script doesn't contact the wiki at all. When you turn the subtitles on, it tries to download the [[Subtitles:Languages|list of supported languages]] then. The list is empty until that finishes (I suppose I should put a "Loading..." message in there...). So wait a bit, see if it turns up. Failing that, it is a nightly build after all, you should expect some things to be broken... the name "Minefield" isn't just for show... chances are, it's a problem with either <code>GM_xmlhttpRequest</code> or <code>DOMParser</code>... and if so, then it's either a Firefox issue or a GreaseMonkey issue, and there's little I can do about it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:15, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::After looking in a Debug Console, the blame goes to..... Greasemonkey! [[User:Onekopaka|onekopaka]] 06:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Firefox 3's document.getElementById is changed so that it returns the first object. If you're using it, you might want to read up on MDC (http://developer.mozilla.org/) --[[User:24.17.113.45|24.17.113.45]] 06:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Typo... ==

You mispelled automatically. [[User:Don't press that button.|Don't press that button.]] 10:08, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
:I somehow think that's [[Portmanteau|intentional]]. {{User:Mee/sig}} 11:05, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
::If you're referring to "[http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/A/automagically.html automagically]", then yes, that's intentional. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:24, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Podcast/Podstar ==

<pre> addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/toons.html", "Toons");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/games.html", "Games");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/characters2.html", "Characters");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/downloads.html", "Downloads");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://homestarrunner.stores.yahoo.net/", "Store");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html", "SB Emails");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/email.html", "Contact");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/", "Podstar");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/legal.html", "Legal");
randolink = addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "javascript:alert('rando.xml not loaded yet... be patient')", "Rando");</pre>

Where it says Podstar, it should say Podcast. On main_nav.swf, it says podcast. Here, is says Podstar. Incorrect. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 19:00, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:The feature is called [[Podstar Runner]], though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:48, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
::My bad. Fixed. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, but if the purpose is to simulate the real main_mav bar, then it should be podcast. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 01:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. That's why I fixed it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:26, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Ah. You posted while I was still posting. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 22:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== Just a question... ==

Are you ever going to put this in the [http://dunck.us/collab/GreaseMonkeyUserScriptsSpecific#head-afce957a390e4b53ef2a03b41fd1b4c04a5f926b Greasemonkey Script Repository?] Just wondering... --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 18:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, that's the old Greasemonkey script place thing. The new one is at [http://www.userscripts.org/ userscripts.org]. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 19:00, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

== not working ==

i installed greasemonkey but there isnt anything under tools. you do mean tools that is above the adress bar, right? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 22:57, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== Tablet stuff ==

Hey, this is a really neat script. Anyway, I use a tablet computer, and I've noticed that, when viewing a toon in portrait (tall) mode, the toon will cover up the top two buttons ("settings" and "wiki") if the script is set to scale the toon to full size. This is, I imagine, because the script expects the screen to be wider than it is tall, as most computer screens are... so when that is not the case, the toon sticks around the top of the page and covers up those key buttons. This doesn't happen in normal, "landscape" mode because the toon is horizontally centered across a wide screen. If the toon were vertically centered as well, or at least nudged sixteen pixels downward when on a tall screen, those buttons and their inherent usefulness would be unveiled for all. ("Landscape" mode is, of course, the better option for viewing Homestar Runner, but I think this would be a pretty good fix nonetheless.)

There are some other things: in Firefox 3.0 beta 4, the seek bar extends too far to the right, visually (covering up the buttons to its right), and does not seem to work for changing your place in the toon. Also, the script never seems to be able to load subtitles, perpetually leaving "loading" in place of subtitle options in the pulldown menu. Oh, and the "settings" bar has most of its scrollbar obscured by the toon, oddly, though it still works.

I hope this helps in working out any kinks. If nobody else can reproduce these errors, I can provide more details. Anyway, thanks![[User:24.22.64.228|24.22.64.228]] 05:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

== 30 Frames fix? ==

For some reason, with the SBCG4AP "ad," the seek bar doesn't work at all. It counts the frame, but all the buttons (besides the zoom) doesn't work. --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 21:08, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:This has nothing to do with the high framerate (which is 24 anyway, not 30), and everything to do with the fact that the HTML file is on homestarrunner.com, but the flash file is on Telltale's servers... Flash's security gets in the way, and there's nothing that can be done about it. Best I can do is make it so that the seekbar is disabled on that toon (or, at least, make it more obvious that it's informative only, and you can't use it to control the playback). Which I'm working on. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:53, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

== 3.2.3 broken in FF 2? ==

I can't get the subtitles if I upgrade to 3.2.3. I'm using FF 2. I see that it was changed for tweaks for Firefox 3...did you notice that it breaks it in FF 2? I don't think a version that breaks it in the current version of Firefox should be released to the update. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 16:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:Oops... I didn't think to regression-test the changes in Fx 2... yeah, that doesn't work. The deal is that, in an earlier version of GreaseMonkey, DOMParser wasn't available for GM scripts to use... and you had to use some workaround to get at it. That workaround didn't work in Fx 3, but the site I got it from listed another option that did. Turns out that other option doesn't work in Fx 2. It also turns out that the workaround isn't necessary at all any more. It's gone now, and the script works in both Fx 2 and 3 (it should auto-update again in the next day or so). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks, it works now. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 14:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== Trouble dragging in FF3 ==

If you try to drag the seek bar, but are already moving the mouse when you start dragging (move it faster if it doesn't do it for you), it messes up. By messes up, I mean it flashes the cursor between a circular crossout symbol and the normal cursor as you hold it down (still moving the movie as you move), then when you release, it keeps following your mouse until you click on it again. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 20:04, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:Huh. That's... bizzare. I get a similar thing, but instead of the cursor-flashing thing you're saying, it actually starts dragging around a slightly-shrunk picture of the seekbar, and sometimes some of the surrounding buttons. I'll look into it (which I guess means I'll need to figure out how the drag-and-drop stuff in the seekbar actually works, since I didn't write that... that'll be "fun"). In the meantime: Don't do that. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::"In the meantime: Don't do that." lol yeah...It's just that I do it accidentally pretty often now, and it's annoying. I'll try to avoid it in the meantime, though. Thanks for looking into it. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 14:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:::OK, this is fixed, I think. I never found a way to reproduce it reliably, but I think I could get it about one try in 3 or 4... and I tried about 20 times now, and I can't get it to happen... let me know if it still happens for you. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
::::It seems to work now. It hasn't happened since I updated. The random button now shows the correct tooltip. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 21:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

== Plain HTML Rando Not Working in FF3? ==

I am finding if I used the plain HTML navbar with the script, it is not working and I get a dialog box saying "rando.xml has not loaded yet. Be Patient." from homestarrunner.com. Is this an issue with the official site, or did something in FF3 break it?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 22:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:It works for me, but shows the wrong URL when I roll over it. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 16:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::The wrong-URL thing should be fixed now. Things were happening in the wrong order... the tooltip and the page it would send you to if you clicked matched, but the URL in the status bar was from the previous selection... I tweaked the timing a bit, so this doesn't happen any more. I couldn't reproduce the infinite "has not loaded yet" thing... try clicking the "Clear Subtitles Cache" button in the preferences screen... the same button will clear the rando.xml cache, forcing it to really try again to download it from the server. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

== Subtitles broken ==

I'm on Firefox 3, with Adblock Plus (disabled on h*r.com and hrwiki.org), and the subtitles don't appear. I check "Show subtitles" in the options, and a list of languages appears, but when I go to anything that has subtitles - I tested it on [[Play Date]] - I get a "loading subtitles" message which disappears after a second or so. Other features like the seek bar work fine. Thanks in advance, [[Special:Contributions/24.250.112.127|24.250.112.127]] 23:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Works fine on 2.0.0.14, the latest stable build. I don't know if it's worth Phlip's time to develop for the beta, but you could revert to the stable build and it'll work. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:09, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::IP Guy: I had the same problem, but then I reinstalled the script and tested it by watching [[The Baloneyman]], and now the subtitles work again.
::Qermaq: the latest stable build is actually 3.0.0. --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 07:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, what do you know, must have been quite recently. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Update: I find the Greasemonkey extension is working flawlessly on my install of Firefox 3. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:42, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::I found that disabling AdBlock Plus for homestarrunner sites worked for me. --Rovlad.

I was about to report a problem with this, but I forgot about having to disable Adblock to get the subtitles working, even on the latest build. I'm installing Firefox in Ubuntu, and I though the crappy flash plugin was the problem.

Anyways, you may want to make this advice more prominent, in some sort of FAQ. (If you have already, well, I couldn't find it.)

--trlkly 23:48, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


== How'd you get the icon data? ==

I noticed that your icons are embedded in the script as base64 data. If you used an encoder program, which one was it? --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 00:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:It's pretty simple... just convert the picture to PNG (I use The GIMP for that... any web-friendly image format will work, but PNG is best), then [[Wikipedia:Base64|Base64]]-ify the PNG file (I just use the tool in [http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/coreutils coreutils]), and tack "<code>data:image/png;base64,</code>" on the start, then use the string as the URL for the image. Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:data URI scheme|more info]]. I'm sure there exists some online tools that let you upload files and generate the data: URIs for them... try Google. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Seekbar ==

I can't get the seekbar to work. Every time I click anywhere on it it just goes back to the beginning of the toon. I know nothing about code, mind you, so I have no idea how to fix this. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:32, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nevermind. I changed some of my Firefox settings and it works now. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:37, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
what did you do, i have the same problem [[User:Forddude1416|Forddude1416]] 19:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

== Screencapture ==

How do I get a screen capture in Ubuntu Linux? --[[User:O98-111-114-113|Blow Up the Ocean]] 20:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:This may vary (it's been a while since I used Gnome), but I believe that alt-Print Screen grabs the focused window, and Print Screen by itself grabs the entire desktop. It will either prompt you for a filename to save it as, or just save it automatically on your Desktop. It will be in PNG format, which is probably want you want. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 21:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Test subtitles script and back button ==

I do a lot of subtitle work (the AIO makes it about a million times easier/possible, BTW :) ) and so I often use the "Test subtitles script" feature to preview my scripts before I save 'em. The problem is that I usually forget to uncheck the box, so when I go to another toon, it displays the wrong subtitles. Not a big deal, of course, as I can go into the options and uncheck the box, but it's an annoyance. It'd be nice if it automatically unchecks the box. Possibly make it uncheck when you load a different toon. 
Also, if you have outside-the-frame action enabled and press the back/forward button (in the browser, not the next/previous button) to go to a page, it loads it full-screen instead of showing outside-the-frame action. 
Oh and BTW I just noticed there's a feature to zoom in/out of the toon when it's full screened, but not when it shows outside-the-frame action. Can you add that feature in outside-the-frame mode, too?
--[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 16:22, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
:The "Test subtitles script" option needs some serious rework anyway... I'd like the "Refresh subtitles" button to Just Work, rather than the sort of inconsistent mess it is now. Being able to give test subtitles for just one specific toon is a good idea... I'll add it to the list of things to do when I get around to doing that.
:The back/forward buttons and outside-the-frame: I hadn't noticed that... I'll look into it. Does everything else work with back/forward?
:As for the zoom buttons and outside-the-frame, if you use the Zoom things in Flash, then it stops doing the outside-the-frame thing... you can't zoom out further than how it behaves when you view the SWF alone (ie: either the height or width matches the height or width of your window, whichever is smaller)... and there's no way to go back to the outside-the-frame mode except by resetting it to the usual outside-the-frame size. I couldn't find any way around this... so I just got rid of the zoom buttons when that option's turned on. If you happen to know of a workaround, I'd love to hear it... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:41, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
::Ok, cool. I don't mean that I really care to see toon-specific subs that are remembered with different pages, in case that's what you thought. I just want it to be cleared when I go to a page besides the one being tested.
::I haven't noticed anything else wrong with back/forward. I've noticed that when a page loads normally, it's momentarily enlarged to full screen before it's changed to show outside-the-frame, but that when you do back/forward it doesn't change. Perhaps it's something with how FF tells scripts that the page has loaded when it comes in from memory (since it was in recent history) instead of loading for the first time. I should probably also note that when it's zoomed out after going back/forward, I can still see outside-the-frame action, but of course since it's already full-screen, I only see it on the edges (instead of being like the normal full screen mode that puts black on the sides, this allows vision on the sides).
::Do you think you could make it so if it's already at the max zoom out level, instead of just trying to tell the SWF to zoom out more (unsuccessfully), make it refresh as outside-the-frame in some way so it goes back out? Of course, that would preferably be without ''actually'' refreshing the page, so your place isn't lost like when you save a setting. This could eliminate the need for an outside-the-frame option, since if you want to zoom out when it's already all the way out, it goes to outside-the-frame, while zooming in while viewing outside-the-frame would go to full screen.
::I just got an idea to fix the issue that when you save settings it refreshes the page (more of a workaround really, something that does it without refreshing at all would be better). Let it refresh, but first remember the frame you're at and the pause/unpause status (is there anything else that would be needed to make it seem the same?) and set it to that once it refreshes. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 01:27, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

== Latest java build ==

Seems this script is incompatable with the latest Java version. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:08, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:Can you be more specific? Neither this script, nor Homestarrunner.com use Java in any way... {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 03:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

::I beg to differ. I upgraded to the most recent Java and it asked me to deactivate this. I tied to reinstall, but it does not work. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:59, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Can you still be more specific? Asked you to disabled this specific userscript, or Greasemonkey in general? Do you know the exact wording of the message? What version of Java did you update to? I just checked mine and it was at 1.6.0_04, there was an update available (to 1.6.0_07), which I just installed, restarted Firefox (and confirmed it was using the new version), and I did not see any change in the behaviour at all.
:::I'm still pretty sure Java isn't used directly here (in fact, I'm certain it isn't). But, it is possible that the Java installation changed something in the browsers security model that is messing things up. I'll try updating it on another computer tomorrow and see if I get the problem to happen there. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 05:07, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

::::Are you on a Mac? It appears to be broken on my Mac... but, it's past my bedtime right now. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 05:14, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::I am still unable to install this script. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:23, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::And I am still unable to even guess as to what your problem is... Can you answer GreenHelmet's questions above? They'll help narrow down the problem. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I am not certain how to check the Java version. I did go to the Java site and install the latest version. Greasemonkey itself seems to be properly installed, though I don't know how I can test that. Running Vista. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Hmm... can you try something for me... run notepad, and type in this:
<pre>// ==UserScript==
// @name GM Test Thing
// @description Check that Greasemonkey is working
// @include http://homestarrunner.com/*
// @include http://www.homestarrunner.com/*
// ==/UserScript==
alert("Greasemonkey's working");</pre>
::::::::Save it somewhere as "test.user.js" (include the quotes, when you type it into Notepad's "Save As" box, otherwise it'll save it as test.user.js.txt). Then open that file in Firefox, let it install the script, and go to [[HR:]]. You should get a message box coming up saying that GM's working. If not, there's something wrong with GM on your end... try uninstalling and reinstalling it. Otherwise, let me know, and I'll have to make a more detailed test. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I reinstalled Greasemonkey, and everything seems to be in order now. Something must have gotten goofed up on installation before. Thanks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:03, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== Script doesn't seem to work ==

I'm running Firefox 3, and none of the buttons, scrollbar[s], or subtitles work. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 22:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm... could you try out the things listed in the [[#Troubleshooting|brand new Troubleshooting section]]? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::Phlip, maybe you should move step 3 up to step 1? It might save some people unnecessary work ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 16:27, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Good point... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Firefox 3 does have its own downs, because Adblock Plus doesn't conflict with the script in Firefox '''2''' but does in 3. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 19:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you! ==

This thing is awesome. [[User:HomsarGuy|HomsarGuy]] 13:16, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks and feature suggestion ==

Hey! Thanks for making this script! It really makes watching H*R much easier (and better)!
 I would like to suggest a feature - it would be great to have an automatic 'next' feature to play through a whole series (like SBemail) or to play random through the whole site. This way we could watch sequential H*R without being near a mouse. (I don't know if this would infringe on the value of the SBemail DVDs) -[[User:Dutchscout|Dutchscout]] 05:48, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== Page-Overwrite? ==

It's been on my mind lately; would it be possible to get the script to overwrite the loaded Flash file on a page, or just replace the content of a page without creating security issues with Flash? In some cases, it could be helpful, as with being able to run subtitles on certain Puppet Stuff toons that don't have their own HTML page, like [[Marshie vs. Little Girl]]. We could use [[HR:default.html|default.html]] as a "dummy page", and using a URL referrer of "<code>overwrite=whateverflashhere.swf</code>" (which would be picked up by the script, not the page), would overwrite the page with your usual Homestar Runner toon-viewing code, with the Flash file in place of the usual "toon placeholder" itself? (I hope that made sense) --[[Special:Contributions/70.253.165.204|70.253.165.204]] 00:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Script broke. ==

Your Greasemonkey script doesn't work. I am using Minefield 3.2a1pre and Flash Player 10. I also modified Greasemonkey to make it work with Minefield. {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 08:11, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:Try everything in the [[#Troubleshooting|Troubleshooting section]]. If that doesn't help, read through [http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html this] and try again. Incidentally, "Minefield" has that codename for a reason... that Greasemonkey works at all (especially after you modified it) should be considered a stroke of luck. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== 2 things ==

1:Thanks!I really wanted a bigger screen.
2:Is it possible to make it work with the [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com kitkorp] mirror?

== subtitles stopped working ==

I just noticed it today. I used it and it worked fine the other day. It seems that the script isn't finding the list of languages at [[Subtitles:Languages]] (the Subtitles Language select box doesn't have any entries). I do have AdBlock Plus but disabled it temporarily with no change. I'm using Firefox 3.0.11 with Greasemonkey 0.8.20090123.1 and the newest All-in-one script from [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey]] (3.2.7). Perhaps it's related to "We will be making adjustments to the server throughout the evening, including upgrading to MediaWiki 1.15."? See also [[HRWiki_talk:Subtitles#Subitles_Not_Working?]] --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 03:11, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
:It's related to the [[HRWiki:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.15|new upgrade]] and the move to the /wiki/ URLs... it should be fixed now. The script should automatically prompt you to update it sometime in the next day or so, or you can just hit the install link on [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|the script page]] to do it yourself. If you're still not getting subtitles, it could be because you hit the "Save" or "Clear cache" buttons in the config panel while the subtitles were broken... in that case, just open up the config panel, make sure that the "language" option is set, and hit save. That should bring them back. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:27, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks, it works now. :) --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 20:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== sbemail201 & hremail3184 ==

Someone needs to fix the back/forward links for the Sbemails, because Sbemail #201 is actually Hremail #3184 in the URL!!! {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 22:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Not Compatible with Firefox 3? ==

Ever since upgrading to FF3, this script hasn't been working at all.
:I'm running Firefox 3.5 (on Windows) and it's working fine for me (it worked fine for me on 3.0). Did you try the troubleshooting options [[#Troubleshooting|listed above]]? I've had problems with AdBlock plus so I added an exception to [[homestarrunner.com|hr.com]], [[Main Page|hrwiki.org]] and [[videlectrix]]. If they don't work, can you provide more information regarding your problem? (Such as what platform and how does the script fail?) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:18, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

::I got it. I had to reinstall Greasemonkey, then update it, then reinstall the HR script.

== Some code for a more streamlined "Hide" ability ==

This is one way that crossed my mind. You'd have to replace the two lines in transcriptLoaded:

<pre>line.text = importNodes(lines[i]);
transcript.push(line);</pre>

With this:

<pre>var hideEnds = true;
for (var j = lines[i].firstChild; j; j = j.nextSibling)
{
// Looks for a "hide" element, and divides the line into two if one is found.
if(j.nodeType == j.ELEMENT_NODE && j.nodeName.toLowerCase() == "hide" && hideEnds)
{
// If no frame number is specified, make the last frame of hiding really big, so it never stops hiding
var hideUntil = 100000;
if(j.hasAttribute("frame"))
{
hideUntil = parseInt(j.getAttribute("frame"), 10);
if(isNaN(hideUntil) && settings.TestSubs)
transcriptError("Hide frame \"" + j.getAttribute("frame") + "\" is not a number");
}
if(hideUntil < line.start && settings.TestSubs)
{
transcriptError("Hide frame \"" + j.getAttribute("frame") + "\" is too early");
}
var firstLine = line;
if(hideuntil < line.end)
{
firstLine.end = hideuntil;
}
else
{
hideEnds = false;
}
j.setNodeName("span");
j.setAttribute("visibility", "hidden");
firstLine.text = importNodes(lines[i]);
transcript.push(firstLine);
j.setAttribute("visibility", "visible");
line.start = hideuntil;
}
}
if(hideEnds)
{
line.text = importNodes(lines[i]);
transcript.push(line);
}</pre>

I'm kinda shaky on the programming language and its nuances, though. Especially "setNodeName", or whether "span" would work without a "/span" (or if adding a "/span" is possible). Also, it's very possible I made a mistake.

If it works, though, it should allow you to add <hide frame="123" /> and it would hide everything after it on a line until frame 123. You wouldn't have to put in multiple lines that way. Even a <hide/> tag should just simply hide everything else on the line, period (unless the toon becomes 100000+ frames in length AND the line comes after that point, but that hasn't happened yet and probably will never.)

Thoughts? Fixes? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:31, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

: PS. Another useful addition would be the ability to write overlapping lines separately and have them all display. Would be useful for when characters semi-interrupt or speak over one another. [[Crystal Fortress]]'s subs were a pain to write without this feature. I don't have code for it, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:56, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::Also for sound effects that are shorter than the dialogue, etc. Perhaps though it should be a different element called "<nowiki><overlap></nowiki>" with the same syntax as line, just to keep the error checking for people who don't intend to overlap lines. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::That <hide> tag sounds like a good idea, that's definitely going on my todo list. Maybe not the way you describe, though... rather than just having the empty tag hide everything from here to the end of the line, have something like "<code>first part <hide frame="100">second part</hide></code>"... it'd make more sense, I think, and be easier to code up. Maybe it should have <code>start</code> and <code>end</code> attributes instead, so things can disappear instead of appearing? Optional, of course, so you can have just a <code>start</code> and no <code>end</code>, and have it behave like you describe.
:::As for overlapping lines, it's something that I've considered before, but never really looked into, as it could be kinda tricky. In particular, arranging the lines... if you have two lines at once, and the first one ends, you want the second one to stay on the second line, with a gap above it (it could move upwards, but that'd be confusing)... and then, if a third line starts, it'd make sense to put it in the gap above the second line... but it may not fit, if it's a long line that word-wraps, or has the <code>volume</code> attribute turned up, or something. So there's an optimisation problem there to arrange all the lines without it being so tall that it runs out of space. But I may be overthinking it here, and a greedy heuristic is probably enough. I'll try it, and see what happens.
:::But don't hold your breath for either of these... I can't guarantee how long they'll take to write... what with the full-time work and all, I'm often not in the mood for programming outside work... but we'll see. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:58, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::::We could create a <code>lineindex</code> attribute to fix that problem. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 14:21, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Not really... maybe if every line was exactly the same height, it'd work, but that's not necessarily the case, with <code>volume</code> and word-wrap. Indeed, with word-wrap, the same line could be different heights on different computers, even with the same subtitles script. Much better to have a dynamic solution. It'd be less work for the transcribers that way anyway, which is kinda the point of this whole thing. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Midori Web Browser ==

You probably don't use linux but, your script does not work with midori's built in userscript engine. I want it to work with midori but do not know why it isn't working. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:11, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:The script uses a bunch of GreaseMonkey-specific features, for things like saving the preferences or loading subtitles from the wiki. From [http://wiki.xfce.org/midori_faq#user_scripts what I can tell], Midori doesn't support any of those (note the part that says "Midori also does not support greasemonkey's api"). I looked into it briefly before, when I was considering supporting Opera... but without those features, it would be a lot of work. Maybe I'll take another look in the future, but don't hold your breath. (Incidentally: Yes, I do use Linux.) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::I don't need preferences if I can just have a userscript that does the following:
::* Stretches the flash
::* Check if next toon exists
::* Has the seek bar
::But I guess it's still not possible. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:48, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Like I said, it would be a heck of a lot of work to retrofit the script to not depend on Greasemonkey. That includes stripping out the script so that only some features are available - all the different features are pretty interconnected at the moment, it's hard to remove just one of them. It's my long-term plan to clean up the script and make it simpler to manage, but that's been my long-term plan since before the subtitles thing started 3 years ago, and I still haven't even started, so don't hold your breath. And anyway, that "check if the next toon exists" thing is one of the things that depends on the GM API, so even if I could quickly strip down the features, I couldn't do that one easily.
:::However! You might have some luck with the original scripts that the all-in-one script was based on. I suspect that the [http://userscripts.org/scripts/review/633 Homestar Full-on] ''could'' work in other browsers that have userscript features... I haven't tried it, but it looks like it could work (it doesn't depend on GreaseMonkey, but it might implicitly depend on Firefox, that's harder to tell just by looking at the script). The [https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/flash.html seek bar] bookmarklet might work, it might not. Try it and see. Obviously, if they don't work, there's not much I can do about it, but it's worth a shot. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:41, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, they unfortunately do not work. The seek bar bookmarklet gives an error even (1 @ undefined) Oh well. I'll just use my display in 1024x768, since my screen is square and not widescreen. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 22:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::WHOA! It works now! The fullon I mean. (It sometimes causes the flashes to be blank, reloading the page fixes that.) {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 01:17, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

=== Revisiting Midori With 0.2.4 ===
Well, the fullon resizes the flash, but now refreshing won't fix the blank flash box. Oh well, guess I'll have to watch it small. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 00:00, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Feedburner ==

Yeah, the navbar on greasemonkey doesn't show the 'subscribe' button. Just saying. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 21:10, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
:{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Phlip/Greasemonkey&diff=681479&oldid=660845 Yes it does}}. Are you sure your script is up to date? It has an option to check for updates automatically, but maybe you've turned that off? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:18, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
::Huh, don't know why it was off. I don't '''''think''''' I turned it off. weird. Thanks! {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 21:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

== Opening as plain text ==

Firefox = check, Greasemonkey = go, and it worked a couple of weeks ago. But the Greasemonkey stuff vanished from H*R, oh, about the time the "visit our store" link appeared on it. I uninstalled and reinstalled Greasemonkey, but when I try clicking on the "click here to install" link, all it does is open the script ''in plain text'' instead of installing the script to Greasemonkey. I tried saving the script to my desktop and running it there, but it complains that, on character 1 of line 122, "document" is undefined. Um? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:15, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
:If you save it and just try to run it, it'll do [[Wikipedia:Windows Script Host|something completely different]]... that's not going to work. You might have some luck if you save it to disk and then open it in Firefox (as opposed to just double-clicking it) but it'll probably do the same thing. Is Greasemonkey enabled? Check the little monkey in the status bar, he should be all colourful and smiley (as opposed to greyscale and frowney). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:55, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
:: That was it, actually. Thanks! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

== Chrome Now Can Install... but... ==

You need to install [http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/5166 from here] instead. Unfortunately, even though Chrome has the greasemonkey APIs, your extension, Philip, doesn't work. the only portion that DOES work is the flyout settings menu when looking at a homestarrunner.com page. None of the settings can actually be saved. You need a git or development version of chrome to be able to install the script I believe, and that's easily done on ubuntu using the chromium daily ppa from launchpad. However, as said by [http://blog.chromium.org/2010/02/40000-more-extensions.html this blog] about the new feature, you will most likely have to edit your script so it works with chrome. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:50, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, I know, both Chrome and Opera and a couple of other browsers have user script engines, but most of them don't have the power necessary to run this script (neither Opera nor Chrome for instance allow cross-site AJAX requests, which are required for subtitles, rando and check-for-updates) and even the features they do have, you need to use in a different way (eg Opera doesn't have the GM_* functions, so I'd need to re-write all the preference-saving and AJAX code using other APIs). This doesn't make it ''impossible'' to make a script this complicated that will work in all these browsers... but it means it'd be a ''lot'' of work to retrofit an existing script to work.
:tl;dr: Only Firefox is supported for the foreseeable future. Like I [[#Midori_Web_Browser|said to you before]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:38, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::I just wanted to make sure that when other people ask why your script doesn't work with chrome (as, in the foreseeable future, I see chrome overtaking firefox due to google's advertising and whatnot) that they know what you have planned for the future. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 01:12, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Eating Up CPU ==

Just to warn people who have non-HT Single Core Processors (true single-cores, meaning no logical cores.) I have a 1.60 GHz true single-core processor (atoms are not true single-cores), and adding this to homestarrunner.com shoots up CPU usage to 100% on idle. Unfocusing the tab in which the script is active will bring down the CPU. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 01:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Huh, it doesn't do that for me... my computer isn't single-core, but using this script doesn't cause my usage to shoot up to a single core being fully used. It does increase the usage a bit, but not drastically... the main culprits being (a) View fullscreen - obviously, if Flash has to render a larger area, it's going to take more processing time; and (b) Seek bar/subtitles... these too mean asking the Flash object a bunch what frame it's up to... which means a lot more context switching between the browser and the plugin, and all the wrappers and whatnot that needs... which is either the fault of Flash or the plugin architecture, I'm not sure which. Anyways - if you try turning those options off, it should help with your CPU problems. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
::I've turned off fullscreen thing, nothing changed; I don't want to turn off subtitles, but I turned off the seek bar, it took up half my CPU alone. I really like the subtitles project, so I don't want that to go away. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 15:42, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Firefox 4.0 & JaegerMonkey ==

With [http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20004620-264.html Firefox 4.0] coming this year (or so it seems), they plan to implement "JaegerMonkey," a javaScript engine that rivals Safari's and Chrome's. The suffix -Monkey, sounds like it'll probably be replacing Greasemonkey or even forcing greasemonkey users to recompile their scripts all together. What do you plan to do if this happens? Keeping in mind that Firefox is the ONLY browser that works with your script, no other does. —[[User:ColdReactive|ColdReactive]] 16:08, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'll cross that bridge when we come to it. I don't see anything to suggest JägerMonkey is going to supersede GreaseMonkey (it's more likely it got the -Monkey suffix from [[Wikipedia:SpiderMonkey (JavaScript engine)|SpiderMonkey]]). So I don't expect the changes to be that drastic (there's probably going to be new features the script could potentially use, but little in the way of old features disappearing). Also: yes, I get the fact that there's a couple of dozen browsers you've asked me to port the script to... I've made it clear that isn't going to happen. Being snarky isn't going to change that. Note the big GPL header at the top of the script - if you want it to work in Opera or Chrome or Midori or whateverthecrap other browser you're using this week, you're welcome to try to figure it out yourself. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:59, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

== Resizing option for recent toons ==

Hey, Phlip. The largest monitor I have is reasonably sized and yet can't show all of past two toons at their HTML'd resolution (at least in Firefox). I admire the screen-resizing option, but with an old laptop that can only do 1024×768 that struggles enough with Flash (The one I'm using right now, in fact. It runs Linux), I'd rather not have toons in the usual 550×400 resolution being scaled. Could there be an option so that users can downsize toons to their native resolution? After all, the newer toons were made in the usual 550×400, I've heard. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:20, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, could there be an option to set our preferred vertical resolution? {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:27, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== Firefox 4 zoom ==

I just noted that when I do the normal resize thing by holding down CTRL and using the scroll wheel in firefox 4, the homestar runner flash objects all are resized as well. Is this new to Firefox 4? Or was it already introduced into 3.6.x? I swear I wasn't able to do this previously. This probably should go somewhere else, but since I only really wanted the resize portion in this script, I may just forgo keeping greasemonkey. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 20:18, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:It works as you describe in at least 3.6.13. Maybe you had "Zoom Text Only" checked. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Do not play on load" option ==

I have another feature request, but it's more of a convenience than anything. Could we have the option to have the Flash paused on page load, instead of having it automatically play? This would help someone when they restore a browser session that has multiple tabs/windows on homestarrunner.com. In my case, I find myself going to a toon, and then adjusting my settings a few times to get it just right (or, in recent cases of one of my Linux machines, getting the Flash player to appear). The bad thing is that, after doing that, the very beginning of the toon is unpleasantly seared into my brain, after hearing it several times on several occasions. Please and thanks, {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig|nodash=nodash}} 19:53, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
:Someone has told me about the Firefox extension [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bartab/ BarTab] for Firefox versions 4.0b6 and below, which doesn't automatically load tabs when a browser session is restored. Then I learned that Firefox 4 through 7 have had an option like this available as a hidden option; in Firefox 8 it will be available through the Preferences window. I guess my request is no more, seeing as I have other options. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 20:25, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
::Hahaha, what timing. Firefox 8 is out three days later. I did not see that coming. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 22:33, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

== Flipper broken ==

The flipper function (that turns the website upside down) is broken. Can you please either remove the function or mirror the flipper SWF on mrphlip.com? {{User:Dagoth/sig}} (I mean that it shows a 404'd error in place of the flipped page)
: I'll have a bit of a look, but I'm not sure it'd work to mirror the SWF... Flash tends to get tetchy about that sort of cross-domain nonsense. Anyway, I haven't really touched this script in some time, and unless the hiatus ends, I probably won't any time soon... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:48, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
:: Yeah, doesn't work. I've disabled the flipper in the script... I didn't bother to set the "updated" flag, though, so it won't get sent out through the update notification thing... no need to alert people to have to pick this up just because a feature's getting removed. If you feel the need to have the non-working option disappear from your options, though, you can just click the "install the script" link on the page here. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:50, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

== Chromified All-In-One Prototype ==

I modified the userscript to work with Chrome (I have version 28.0.1500.95). It's a bit of a hack, but hey-- it works for the most part!
I tested the basics, if anyone wants to test it, download it here: http://cl.ly/QhpJ/allinone.user.js
To install:
1. Download the file (it'll likely complain that you can only use the Chrome App Store, ignore it because it's downloaded anyway)
2. Go to your Downloads folder and find allinone.user.js
3. Open the URL chrome://extensions in Chrome and drag and drop the allinone.user.js into that window.
4. Click Accept/OK/Sure/whatever it says when it asks about security to install it.
[[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 02:13, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

edit by Gh0st

yes it works kindof navigation bar works, however subtitles do not when enabled do you want to possibly contact me to work on this script gh0sti at me dot com
:Phlip's original script works (almost) perfectly fine with [https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tampermonkey/dhdgffkkebhmkfjojejmpbldmpobfkfo?hl=en tampermonkey] installed. (The almost is that the "back one frame" button has the | and the < on separate lines, making it look slightly wrong. Other than that, it's perfect.) {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:01, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
::I wasn't even aware that was a thing, honestly! If anything, I'm just going to keep working on this in case people don't want to download another extension for whatever reason. Also because I find it fun, cough cough. The "|<" is a problem even without tampermonkey, so it must be a Chrome thing. I'll start to look into that, even if just because of cosmetic reasons. Also, gh0st, what's the problem with the navbar/subtitles? I've got this just fine: [http://cl.ly/image/0j361g3C1x2n/i.png screenshot] [[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 20:54, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

User talk:Phlip/Greasemonkey

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==Troubleshooting==
If the script doesn't seem to be working for you, please try:
#If you have Adblock, Flashblock, or similar addons installed, disable them on homestarrunner.com.
#Reinstalling the script, by clicking [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Phlip/Greasemonkey&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&fakeextension=.user.js this link].
#Uninstalling Greasemonkey (from the Tools menu in Firefox, choose Add-ons, then go to the Extensions section, click Greasemonkey, then Uninstall), and then reinstall it (from [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748 here]). You'll probably need to [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Phlip/Greasemonkey&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&fakeextension=.user.js install the script] again.
If you're still having problems after that, ''then'' ask for help on this page. Be sure to mention what versions of Firefox and Flash you have, and what other extensions you have installed. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

==Release notes==
===Version 1.0 (8 Mar, 2006)===
*First released version.
*Had the fullscreen, seek bar, prev/next and wiki link features.
*Worked only on the main site.
===Version 2.0 (26 May, 2006)===
*Added the preferences menu.
*Added support for Videlectrix and the HRWiki mirror.
*Added "outside the frame", April Fools and plain HTML navbar options.
===Version 2.1 (8 Aug, 2006)===
*Tooltips in the preferences box.
*The "more better" rando link is now always on... the less better version was just ugly, so I removed it.
*You can set what types of toon are included in the rando selection.
*You have the option to make it check if the next sbemail/whatever actually exists before putting the "next" link (so there's no "next" link on the latest email).
**The only reason this wasn't there before is that it means an extra hit to the H*R servers... but now that I have the preferences things set up, so you can turn it on or off, I think that's fine.
===Version 3.0 (29 Aug, 2006)===
*Added [[HRWiki:Subtitles|subtitling]] functionality.
*Updating no longer requires uninstalling the previous version.
===Version 3.1 (27 Sep, 2006)===
*Whether to show the names next to subtitles is now a distinct setting from the one for colours - you can have neither, either or both.
*There is a button that will purge the local cache for all subtitles-related files downloaded from the wiki and reload the page, for when the cache is out of date.
*The ability to update the test subtitles without refreshing the page for every change (NB: disabled by default, see [[#Refresh Subtitles|below]]).
*Rewind and fast forward buttons on the seek bar to go to the first/last frame, respectively.
*Flash loading progress bar on the seek bar (see how much it's loaded).
===Version 3.2 (25 Sep, 2007)===
*Add option to automatically check for script updates (on by default).

__TOC__

==Suggestion==
Would it make sense to change line 272 to
<pre> addHRWikiLink("Index_Page");</pre>
Then I suppose line 261 could be removed. By the way, ''amazing'' work Phlip. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:25, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I suggest that the games on videlectrix.com should be added, such as
<pre>http://www.videlectrix.com/duckguard1.html
http://videlectrix.com/duckguard1.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/racewalk.html
http://videlectrix.com/racewalk.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/hallrunner.html
http://videlectrix.com/hallrunner.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/lcd_game.html
http://videlectrix.com/lcd_game.html
http://www.videlectrix.com/thydungeonman2.html
http://videlectrix.com/thydungeonman2.html</pre>
And yeah, you rock. [[User:Libertyernie|Libertyernie]] 16:32, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
:Hmm, that's a good point... I'll get on that sometime <s>(probably tomorrow)</s>. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:37, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
::The reason I thought of this was because I realized the Pause button on the seekbar can be used for skipping a level in Duck Guardian. [[User:Libertyernie|Libertyernie]] 21:47, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
==Homestar-Fullon Edit==
Using the user script I was getting a scrollbar on every page, so I edited line 411 from
<pre>var dh = window.innerHeight - 10;</pre>
to
<pre>var dh = window.innerHeight - 20;</pre>
This kept all the content in the window, but I didn't have to scroll down to see the navbar at the bottom. Did this happen to anyone else? [[User:Consonance|Consonance]] 08:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
:Not me. Works perfectly for me. --{{User:X-Spider2/X-Sigger2}} 03:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

==Eventual to-do list==
(in no particular order)
*{{done}} General cleanup of the code.
*{{done}} Work on Videlectrix.
*{{done}} Work on the mirrors (<s>[http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/ kitkorp]</s> ''(not needed with Tom working on completing the HRWiki mirror)'' and [[Mirror:|HRWiki]]).
*{{done}} Some way of turning various features on and off maybe?
**{{done}} Only if I get this working, replace the flash files with [[April Fools 2006|theyCallHimFlipper.swf]].
*{{done}} replace the navbar with text links (this is more for me than for you guys).
*{{done}} resize the seek bar when the toon resizes (if you resize the window)
*{{done}} show outside-the-frame stuff
Feel free to add suggestions. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

:I've got one. You could try "flipping the ''whole page'' upside down". You know, using the [http://www.homestarrunner.com/theyCallHimFlipperMainNav.swf?contentURL=main_nav.swf flipped navbar], too. And putting the navbar above the flipped toon/game. 
:Also, you could try adding A-B repeat to the seek bar, if you know enough to do that. Preferably make it a seperate sub-option in the prefs, too.
:[[do over|Totally not getting old]], {{User:X-Spider2/X-Sigger2}} 22:57, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
:I have a suggestion/request. If you could make a "play all sbemails in order" type of function, that would be really awesome. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/69.249.241.164|69.249.241.164]] 18:13, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

== Errors in installing ==

I keep getting this error: 
Error installing user script: 
 
[Exception... "Compoment returned failure code: 0x804b000a [nsIIOService.newChannel]" nsresult: "0x804b000a (<unknown>)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://strongbademailsprevnext/content/browser.xul :: getContents :: line 20" data: no] 
 
Any suggestions? {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 07:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
:"strongbademailsprevnext"? I'm guessing you have [https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1695/ this extension] installed? You might want to uninstall that... this script does that stuff too. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
::<s>Nope. I only have the script that allows it to be viewed 'full-screen'. {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 22:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)</s>
::Nevermind. Turns out that they were both conflicting and I was misinterpreting the second error message. Thanks! {{User:NFITC1/sig}} 22:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 
Just as a side-note for people who run into the same problem I did: if you use a program that blends its own Javascript functions into every page you load (mainly found in ad-munching software, like Ad Muncher), make sure you disable it BEFORE installing the Greasemonkey script. Otherwise the extra code might break it, requiring you to clear your cache and install it again with the filters disabled. [[User:MNGoldenEagle|MNGoldenEagle]] 14:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

== HOW THE HECK!?!?!?!?! ==

HOW DID YOU MAKE THIS!?!?! {{User:The thing/sig}} 00:36, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

:Phlip has studied necromancy and sorcery for many years now. Other than that, it's a good diet, exercise, and a modicum of good fortune. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:44, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

::Phlip has access to both a monkey and a typewriter, so it really was only a [[Wikipedia:Infinite monkey theorem|matter of time]]. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 00:46, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

:::No, no, no... I sold my soul to Haxxina, ancient Greek goddess of programming and ruler of the underworld. In return She gave me the ability to write this script as my superpower. Just don't make me say my name backwards minus the first 'P' and we should be fine. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:52, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

::::We'll be out a free [[lunch special]]? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 00:58, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

== Refresh Subtitles ==
OK, this feature will need some explaining... First, go Tools→Manage User Scripts, click on "Homestar All-in-one" and click "Edit". If it asks you to choose a text editor, just pick Notepad unless you have something better. It'll look ugly in Notepad (it doesn't recognise the line endings) but it'll work. Now search for <code>if (settings.testsubs && false)</code> and change it to <code>if (settings.testsubs && true)</code>. Now you can use the feature. First you have to turn on "Test subtitles" and hit "Save and apply" as usual, but the next time after the page loads there'll be a "Refresh Subtitles" button below the text area, that re-parses the subtitles without reloading the page - invaluable to subtitle authors.

The reasons the option's not avaliable by default are:
*The interface is clumsy... sometimes the button's there, sometimes it's not there... depending on whether the test subtitles were already enabled before the page loaded... given it's something that's supposed to update stuff without a page load it can be confusing.
*It's not exhaustively tested, and has some weird side-effects (it calls <code>savesettings</code>, so if you, say, turn off the seekbar and hit "Reload Subtitles" the seekbar will remain, but it'll save that you want the seekbar turned off)...
*It's not permanent... Version 4.0 will hopefully make it so that ''all'' settings work like this, and clicking "Save and Apply" won't have to reload the page.
So it's there if you want it, but it's not cluttering up the settings boxes of people that don't want it.

Anyways, enjoy! {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:30, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== Greasemonkey install method ==
GM's changed the way it installs scripts by link. A single-click on the link will offer to install the script, the option isn't even on the right click menu anymore. --[[User:AndrewNeo|AndrewNeo]] 17:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== Just the seek bar ==

Maybe for use on other sites, you could individually release the code for the seekbar. (And, if possible, include the preferences from the whole script, plus maybe external CSS skin support.) --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 04:00, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

== spellcheck ==

"Homestar" is misspelled in the warning section of the heap-o-comments at the beginning. Page is locked or I'd fix it myself. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:08, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

== Uniformity matters... again ==

Since "podcast" was added recently to the navbar, can you please update that? --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 20:55, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:Done. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:54, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

== Is it just me or is this broken? ==

One day the fullon part stopped working for me. And the Subtitles. And the seek bar. The corner buttons are still there. --[[User:68.55.198.213|68.55.198.213]] 11:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
:It's still working fine for me. What did you do the day that it broke? Did you install any other extensions, or scripts, or upgrade anything? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:03, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

::So It's just me. That's good to know. I poked around in the system, and determined an update to flashblock borked it. I normally don't unblock flash (even for homestarrunner.com). Adding it to the whitelist fixed the problem. Before that update, they both worked together. Thanks, and I hope this info helps someone.--[[User:68.55.198.213|68.55.198.213]] 13:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

== Not working in nightly build =( ==

In the nightly build of Firefox (Dubbed Minefield), the script has limited functionality.
The subtitle language selector doesn't work, as there are no options. I will try to clean up to make it work..right.

[[User:Onekopaka|onekopaka]] 02:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:By design, if subtitles are turned off, the script doesn't contact the wiki at all. When you turn the subtitles on, it tries to download the [[Subtitles:Languages|list of supported languages]] then. The list is empty until that finishes (I suppose I should put a "Loading..." message in there...). So wait a bit, see if it turns up. Failing that, it is a nightly build after all, you should expect some things to be broken... the name "Minefield" isn't just for show... chances are, it's a problem with either <code>GM_xmlhttpRequest</code> or <code>DOMParser</code>... and if so, then it's either a Firefox issue or a GreaseMonkey issue, and there's little I can do about it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:15, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::After looking in a Debug Console, the blame goes to..... Greasemonkey! [[User:Onekopaka|onekopaka]] 06:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Firefox 3's document.getElementById is changed so that it returns the first object. If you're using it, you might want to read up on MDC (http://developer.mozilla.org/) --[[User:24.17.113.45|24.17.113.45]] 06:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Typo... ==

You mispelled automatically. [[User:Don't press that button.|Don't press that button.]] 10:08, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
:I somehow think that's [[Portmanteau|intentional]]. {{User:Mee/sig}} 11:05, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
::If you're referring to "[http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/A/automagically.html automagically]", then yes, that's intentional. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:24, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Podcast/Podstar ==

<pre> addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/toons.html", "Toons");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/games.html", "Games");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/characters2.html", "Characters");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/downloads.html", "Downloads");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://homestarrunner.stores.yahoo.net/", "Store");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html", "SB Emails");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/email.html", "Contact");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://podstar.homestarrunner.com/", "Podstar");
addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "http://www.homestarrunner.com/legal.html", "Legal");
randolink = addnavbarlink(newnavbar, "javascript:alert('rando.xml not loaded yet... be patient')", "Rando");</pre>

Where it says Podstar, it should say Podcast. On main_nav.swf, it says podcast. Here, is says Podstar. Incorrect. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 19:00, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:The feature is called [[Podstar Runner]], though. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:48, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
::My bad. Fixed. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 00:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, but if the purpose is to simulate the real main_mav bar, then it should be podcast. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 01:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. That's why I fixed it. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 01:26, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Ah. You posted while I was still posting. --{{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 22:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== Just a question... ==

Are you ever going to put this in the [http://dunck.us/collab/GreaseMonkeyUserScriptsSpecific#head-afce957a390e4b53ef2a03b41fd1b4c04a5f926b Greasemonkey Script Repository?] Just wondering... --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 18:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, that's the old Greasemonkey script place thing. The new one is at [http://www.userscripts.org/ userscripts.org]. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 19:00, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

== not working ==

i installed greasemonkey but there isnt anything under tools. you do mean tools that is above the adress bar, right? {{User:Slipknot6477/sig}} 22:57, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== Tablet stuff ==

Hey, this is a really neat script. Anyway, I use a tablet computer, and I've noticed that, when viewing a toon in portrait (tall) mode, the toon will cover up the top two buttons ("settings" and "wiki") if the script is set to scale the toon to full size. This is, I imagine, because the script expects the screen to be wider than it is tall, as most computer screens are... so when that is not the case, the toon sticks around the top of the page and covers up those key buttons. This doesn't happen in normal, "landscape" mode because the toon is horizontally centered across a wide screen. If the toon were vertically centered as well, or at least nudged sixteen pixels downward when on a tall screen, those buttons and their inherent usefulness would be unveiled for all. ("Landscape" mode is, of course, the better option for viewing Homestar Runner, but I think this would be a pretty good fix nonetheless.)

There are some other things: in Firefox 3.0 beta 4, the seek bar extends too far to the right, visually (covering up the buttons to its right), and does not seem to work for changing your place in the toon. Also, the script never seems to be able to load subtitles, perpetually leaving "loading" in place of subtitle options in the pulldown menu. Oh, and the "settings" bar has most of its scrollbar obscured by the toon, oddly, though it still works.

I hope this helps in working out any kinks. If nobody else can reproduce these errors, I can provide more details. Anyway, thanks![[User:24.22.64.228|24.22.64.228]] 05:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

== 30 Frames fix? ==

For some reason, with the SBCG4AP "ad," the seek bar doesn't work at all. It counts the frame, but all the buttons (besides the zoom) doesn't work. --[[User:76.210.181.251|76.210.181.251]] 21:08, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:This has nothing to do with the high framerate (which is 24 anyway, not 30), and everything to do with the fact that the HTML file is on homestarrunner.com, but the flash file is on Telltale's servers... Flash's security gets in the way, and there's nothing that can be done about it. Best I can do is make it so that the seekbar is disabled on that toon (or, at least, make it more obvious that it's informative only, and you can't use it to control the playback). Which I'm working on. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:53, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

== 3.2.3 broken in FF 2? ==

I can't get the subtitles if I upgrade to 3.2.3. I'm using FF 2. I see that it was changed for tweaks for Firefox 3...did you notice that it breaks it in FF 2? I don't think a version that breaks it in the current version of Firefox should be released to the update. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 16:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:Oops... I didn't think to regression-test the changes in Fx 2... yeah, that doesn't work. The deal is that, in an earlier version of GreaseMonkey, DOMParser wasn't available for GM scripts to use... and you had to use some workaround to get at it. That workaround didn't work in Fx 3, but the site I got it from listed another option that did. Turns out that other option doesn't work in Fx 2. It also turns out that the workaround isn't necessary at all any more. It's gone now, and the script works in both Fx 2 and 3 (it should auto-update again in the next day or so). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks, it works now. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 14:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== Trouble dragging in FF3 ==

If you try to drag the seek bar, but are already moving the mouse when you start dragging (move it faster if it doesn't do it for you), it messes up. By messes up, I mean it flashes the cursor between a circular crossout symbol and the normal cursor as you hold it down (still moving the movie as you move), then when you release, it keeps following your mouse until you click on it again. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 20:04, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:Huh. That's... bizzare. I get a similar thing, but instead of the cursor-flashing thing you're saying, it actually starts dragging around a slightly-shrunk picture of the seekbar, and sometimes some of the surrounding buttons. I'll look into it (which I guess means I'll need to figure out how the drag-and-drop stuff in the seekbar actually works, since I didn't write that... that'll be "fun"). In the meantime: Don't do that. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::"In the meantime: Don't do that." lol yeah...It's just that I do it accidentally pretty often now, and it's annoying. I'll try to avoid it in the meantime, though. Thanks for looking into it. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 14:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:::OK, this is fixed, I think. I never found a way to reproduce it reliably, but I think I could get it about one try in 3 or 4... and I tried about 20 times now, and I can't get it to happen... let me know if it still happens for you. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
::::It seems to work now. It hasn't happened since I updated. The random button now shows the correct tooltip. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 21:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

== Plain HTML Rando Not Working in FF3? ==

I am finding if I used the plain HTML navbar with the script, it is not working and I get a dialog box saying "rando.xml has not loaded yet. Be Patient." from homestarrunner.com. Is this an issue with the official site, or did something in FF3 break it?{{User:Bassbone/sig}} 22:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:It works for me, but shows the wrong URL when I roll over it. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]] 16:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
::The wrong-URL thing should be fixed now. Things were happening in the wrong order... the tooltip and the page it would send you to if you clicked matched, but the URL in the status bar was from the previous selection... I tweaked the timing a bit, so this doesn't happen any more. I couldn't reproduce the infinite "has not loaded yet" thing... try clicking the "Clear Subtitles Cache" button in the preferences screen... the same button will clear the rando.xml cache, forcing it to really try again to download it from the server. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

== Subtitles broken ==

I'm on Firefox 3, with Adblock Plus (disabled on h*r.com and hrwiki.org), and the subtitles don't appear. I check "Show subtitles" in the options, and a list of languages appears, but when I go to anything that has subtitles - I tested it on [[Play Date]] - I get a "loading subtitles" message which disappears after a second or so. Other features like the seek bar work fine. Thanks in advance, [[Special:Contributions/24.250.112.127|24.250.112.127]] 23:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Works fine on 2.0.0.14, the latest stable build. I don't know if it's worth Phlip's time to develop for the beta, but you could revert to the stable build and it'll work. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 01:09, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::IP Guy: I had the same problem, but then I reinstalled the script and tested it by watching [[The Baloneyman]], and now the subtitles work again.
::Qermaq: the latest stable build is actually 3.0.0. --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 07:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, what do you know, must have been quite recently. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 09:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Update: I find the Greasemonkey extension is working flawlessly on my install of Firefox 3. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:42, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::I found that disabling AdBlock Plus for homestarrunner sites worked for me. --Rovlad.

I was about to report a problem with this, but I forgot about having to disable Adblock to get the subtitles working, even on the latest build. I'm installing Firefox in Ubuntu, and I though the crappy flash plugin was the problem.

Anyways, you may want to make this advice more prominent, in some sort of FAQ. (If you have already, well, I couldn't find it.)

--trlkly 23:48, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


== How'd you get the icon data? ==

I noticed that your icons are embedded in the script as base64 data. If you used an encoder program, which one was it? --{{User:Y2K/sig}} 00:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:It's pretty simple... just convert the picture to PNG (I use The GIMP for that... any web-friendly image format will work, but PNG is best), then [[Wikipedia:Base64|Base64]]-ify the PNG file (I just use the tool in [http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/coreutils coreutils]), and tack "<code>data:image/png;base64,</code>" on the start, then use the string as the URL for the image. Wikipedia has [[Wikipedia:data URI scheme|more info]]. I'm sure there exists some online tools that let you upload files and generate the data: URIs for them... try Google. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Seekbar ==

I can't get the seekbar to work. Every time I click anywhere on it it just goes back to the beginning of the toon. I know nothing about code, mind you, so I have no idea how to fix this. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:32, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:Nevermind. I changed some of my Firefox settings and it works now. {{User:That Guy Over There/sig}} 02:37, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
what did you do, i have the same problem [[User:Forddude1416|Forddude1416]] 19:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

== Screencapture ==

How do I get a screen capture in Ubuntu Linux? --[[User:O98-111-114-113|Blow Up the Ocean]] 20:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:This may vary (it's been a while since I used Gnome), but I believe that alt-Print Screen grabs the focused window, and Print Screen by itself grabs the entire desktop. It will either prompt you for a filename to save it as, or just save it automatically on your Desktop. It will be in PNG format, which is probably want you want. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 21:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Test subtitles script and back button ==

I do a lot of subtitle work (the AIO makes it about a million times easier/possible, BTW :) ) and so I often use the "Test subtitles script" feature to preview my scripts before I save 'em. The problem is that I usually forget to uncheck the box, so when I go to another toon, it displays the wrong subtitles. Not a big deal, of course, as I can go into the options and uncheck the box, but it's an annoyance. It'd be nice if it automatically unchecks the box. Possibly make it uncheck when you load a different toon. 
Also, if you have outside-the-frame action enabled and press the back/forward button (in the browser, not the next/previous button) to go to a page, it loads it full-screen instead of showing outside-the-frame action. 
Oh and BTW I just noticed there's a feature to zoom in/out of the toon when it's full screened, but not when it shows outside-the-frame action. Can you add that feature in outside-the-frame mode, too?
--[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 16:22, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
:The "Test subtitles script" option needs some serious rework anyway... I'd like the "Refresh subtitles" button to Just Work, rather than the sort of inconsistent mess it is now. Being able to give test subtitles for just one specific toon is a good idea... I'll add it to the list of things to do when I get around to doing that.
:The back/forward buttons and outside-the-frame: I hadn't noticed that... I'll look into it. Does everything else work with back/forward?
:As for the zoom buttons and outside-the-frame, if you use the Zoom things in Flash, then it stops doing the outside-the-frame thing... you can't zoom out further than how it behaves when you view the SWF alone (ie: either the height or width matches the height or width of your window, whichever is smaller)... and there's no way to go back to the outside-the-frame mode except by resetting it to the usual outside-the-frame size. I couldn't find any way around this... so I just got rid of the zoom buttons when that option's turned on. If you happen to know of a workaround, I'd love to hear it... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:41, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
::Ok, cool. I don't mean that I really care to see toon-specific subs that are remembered with different pages, in case that's what you thought. I just want it to be cleared when I go to a page besides the one being tested.
::I haven't noticed anything else wrong with back/forward. I've noticed that when a page loads normally, it's momentarily enlarged to full screen before it's changed to show outside-the-frame, but that when you do back/forward it doesn't change. Perhaps it's something with how FF tells scripts that the page has loaded when it comes in from memory (since it was in recent history) instead of loading for the first time. I should probably also note that when it's zoomed out after going back/forward, I can still see outside-the-frame action, but of course since it's already full-screen, I only see it on the edges (instead of being like the normal full screen mode that puts black on the sides, this allows vision on the sides).
::Do you think you could make it so if it's already at the max zoom out level, instead of just trying to tell the SWF to zoom out more (unsuccessfully), make it refresh as outside-the-frame in some way so it goes back out? Of course, that would preferably be without ''actually'' refreshing the page, so your place isn't lost like when you save a setting. This could eliminate the need for an outside-the-frame option, since if you want to zoom out when it's already all the way out, it goes to outside-the-frame, while zooming in while viewing outside-the-frame would go to full screen.
::I just got an idea to fix the issue that when you save settings it refreshes the page (more of a workaround really, something that does it without refreshing at all would be better). Let it refresh, but first remember the frame you're at and the pause/unpause status (is there anything else that would be needed to make it seem the same?) and set it to that once it refreshes. --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 01:27, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

== Latest java build ==

Seems this script is incompatable with the latest Java version. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:08, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:Can you be more specific? Neither this script, nor Homestarrunner.com use Java in any way... {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 03:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

::I beg to differ. I upgraded to the most recent Java and it asked me to deactivate this. I tied to reinstall, but it does not work. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:59, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Can you still be more specific? Asked you to disabled this specific userscript, or Greasemonkey in general? Do you know the exact wording of the message? What version of Java did you update to? I just checked mine and it was at 1.6.0_04, there was an update available (to 1.6.0_07), which I just installed, restarted Firefox (and confirmed it was using the new version), and I did not see any change in the behaviour at all.
:::I'm still pretty sure Java isn't used directly here (in fact, I'm certain it isn't). But, it is possible that the Java installation changed something in the browsers security model that is messing things up. I'll try updating it on another computer tomorrow and see if I get the problem to happen there. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 05:07, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

::::Are you on a Mac? It appears to be broken on my Mac... but, it's past my bedtime right now. {{User:GreenHelmet/sig}} 05:14, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::I am still unable to install this script. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 13:23, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::And I am still unable to even guess as to what your problem is... Can you answer GreenHelmet's questions above? They'll help narrow down the problem. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I am not certain how to check the Java version. I did go to the Java site and install the latest version. Greasemonkey itself seems to be properly installed, though I don't know how I can test that. Running Vista. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 18:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Hmm... can you try something for me... run notepad, and type in this:
<pre>// ==UserScript==
// @name GM Test Thing
// @description Check that Greasemonkey is working
// @include http://homestarrunner.com/*
// @include http://www.homestarrunner.com/*
// ==/UserScript==
alert("Greasemonkey's working");</pre>
::::::::Save it somewhere as "test.user.js" (include the quotes, when you type it into Notepad's "Save As" box, otherwise it'll save it as test.user.js.txt). Then open that file in Firefox, let it install the script, and go to [[HR:]]. You should get a message box coming up saying that GM's working. If not, there's something wrong with GM on your end... try uninstalling and reinstalling it. Otherwise, let me know, and I'll have to make a more detailed test. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I reinstalled Greasemonkey, and everything seems to be in order now. Something must have gotten goofed up on installation before. Thanks. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 03:03, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== Script doesn't seem to work ==

I'm running Firefox 3, and none of the buttons, scrollbar[s], or subtitles work. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 22:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm... could you try out the things listed in the [[#Troubleshooting|brand new Troubleshooting section]]? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::Phlip, maybe you should move step 3 up to step 1? It might save some people unnecessary work ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 16:27, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Good point... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 23:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Firefox 3 does have its own downs, because Adblock Plus doesn't conflict with the script in Firefox '''2''' but does in 3. --[[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 19:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you! ==

This thing is awesome. [[User:HomsarGuy|HomsarGuy]] 13:16, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks and feature suggestion ==

Hey! Thanks for making this script! It really makes watching H*R much easier (and better)!
 I would like to suggest a feature - it would be great to have an automatic 'next' feature to play through a whole series (like SBemail) or to play random through the whole site. This way we could watch sequential H*R without being near a mouse. (I don't know if this would infringe on the value of the SBemail DVDs) -[[User:Dutchscout|Dutchscout]] 05:48, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== Page-Overwrite? ==

It's been on my mind lately; would it be possible to get the script to overwrite the loaded Flash file on a page, or just replace the content of a page without creating security issues with Flash? In some cases, it could be helpful, as with being able to run subtitles on certain Puppet Stuff toons that don't have their own HTML page, like [[Marshie vs. Little Girl]]. We could use [[HR:default.html|default.html]] as a "dummy page", and using a URL referrer of "<code>overwrite=whateverflashhere.swf</code>" (which would be picked up by the script, not the page), would overwrite the page with your usual Homestar Runner toon-viewing code, with the Flash file in place of the usual "toon placeholder" itself? (I hope that made sense) --[[Special:Contributions/70.253.165.204|70.253.165.204]] 00:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

== Script broke. ==

Your Greasemonkey script doesn't work. I am using Minefield 3.2a1pre and Flash Player 10. I also modified Greasemonkey to make it work with Minefield. {{User:Dagoth/sig}} 08:11, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:Try everything in the [[#Troubleshooting|Troubleshooting section]]. If that doesn't help, read through [http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html this] and try again. Incidentally, "Minefield" has that codename for a reason... that Greasemonkey works at all (especially after you modified it) should be considered a stroke of luck. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== 2 things ==

1:Thanks!I really wanted a bigger screen.
2:Is it possible to make it work with the [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com kitkorp] mirror?

== subtitles stopped working ==

I just noticed it today. I used it and it worked fine the other day. It seems that the script isn't finding the list of languages at [[Subtitles:Languages]] (the Subtitles Language select box doesn't have any entries). I do have AdBlock Plus but disabled it temporarily with no change. I'm using Firefox 3.0.11 with Greasemonkey 0.8.20090123.1 and the newest All-in-one script from [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey]] (3.2.7). Perhaps it's related to "We will be making adjustments to the server throughout the evening, including upgrading to MediaWiki 1.15."? See also [[HRWiki_talk:Subtitles#Subitles_Not_Working?]] --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 03:11, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
:It's related to the [[HRWiki:Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.15|new upgrade]] and the move to the /wiki/ URLs... it should be fixed now. The script should automatically prompt you to update it sometime in the next day or so, or you can just hit the install link on [[User:Phlip/Greasemonkey|the script page]] to do it yourself. If you're still not getting subtitles, it could be because you hit the "Save" or "Clear cache" buttons in the config panel while the subtitles were broken... in that case, just open up the config panel, make sure that the "language" option is set, and hit save. That should bring them back. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:27, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks, it works now. :) --[[User:Mini-Geek|Mini-Geek]][[User_talk:Mini-Geek|t]] [[Special:Contributions/Mini-Geek|c]] 20:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== sbemail201 & hremail3184 ==

Someone needs to fix the back/forward links for the Sbemails, because Sbemail #201 is actually Hremail #3184 in the URL!!! {{User:Religious Corn/sig}} 22:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Not Compatible with Firefox 3? ==

Ever since upgrading to FF3, this script hasn't been working at all.
:I'm running Firefox 3.5 (on Windows) and it's working fine for me (it worked fine for me on 3.0). Did you try the troubleshooting options [[#Troubleshooting|listed above]]? I've had problems with AdBlock plus so I added an exception to [[homestarrunner.com|hr.com]], [[Main Page|hrwiki.org]] and [[videlectrix]]. If they don't work, can you provide more information regarding your problem? (Such as what platform and how does the script fail?) --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:18, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

::I got it. I had to reinstall Greasemonkey, then update it, then reinstall the HR script.

== Some code for a more streamlined "Hide" ability ==

This is one way that crossed my mind. You'd have to replace the two lines in transcriptLoaded:

<pre>line.text = importNodes(lines[i]);
transcript.push(line);</pre>

With this:

<pre>var hideEnds = true;
for (var j = lines[i].firstChild; j; j = j.nextSibling)
{
// Looks for a "hide" element, and divides the line into two if one is found.
if(j.nodeType == j.ELEMENT_NODE && j.nodeName.toLowerCase() == "hide" && hideEnds)
{
// If no frame number is specified, make the last frame of hiding really big, so it never stops hiding
var hideUntil = 100000;
if(j.hasAttribute("frame"))
{
hideUntil = parseInt(j.getAttribute("frame"), 10);
if(isNaN(hideUntil) && settings.TestSubs)
transcriptError("Hide frame \"" + j.getAttribute("frame") + "\" is not a number");
}
if(hideUntil < line.start && settings.TestSubs)
{
transcriptError("Hide frame \"" + j.getAttribute("frame") + "\" is too early");
}
var firstLine = line;
if(hideuntil < line.end)
{
firstLine.end = hideuntil;
}
else
{
hideEnds = false;
}
j.setNodeName("span");
j.setAttribute("visibility", "hidden");
firstLine.text = importNodes(lines[i]);
transcript.push(firstLine);
j.setAttribute("visibility", "visible");
line.start = hideuntil;
}
}
if(hideEnds)
{
line.text = importNodes(lines[i]);
transcript.push(line);
}</pre>

I'm kinda shaky on the programming language and its nuances, though. Especially "setNodeName", or whether "span" would work without a "/span" (or if adding a "/span" is possible). Also, it's very possible I made a mistake.

If it works, though, it should allow you to add <hide frame="123" /> and it would hide everything after it on a line until frame 123. You wouldn't have to put in multiple lines that way. Even a <hide/> tag should just simply hide everything else on the line, period (unless the toon becomes 100000+ frames in length AND the line comes after that point, but that hasn't happened yet and probably will never.)

Thoughts? Fixes? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:31, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

: PS. Another useful addition would be the ability to write overlapping lines separately and have them all display. Would be useful for when characters semi-interrupt or speak over one another. [[Crystal Fortress]]'s subs were a pain to write without this feature. I don't have code for it, though. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:56, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::Also for sound effects that are shorter than the dialogue, etc. Perhaps though it should be a different element called "<nowiki><overlap></nowiki>" with the same syntax as line, just to keep the error checking for people who don't intend to overlap lines. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::That <hide> tag sounds like a good idea, that's definitely going on my todo list. Maybe not the way you describe, though... rather than just having the empty tag hide everything from here to the end of the line, have something like "<code>first part <hide frame="100">second part</hide></code>"... it'd make more sense, I think, and be easier to code up. Maybe it should have <code>start</code> and <code>end</code> attributes instead, so things can disappear instead of appearing? Optional, of course, so you can have just a <code>start</code> and no <code>end</code>, and have it behave like you describe.
:::As for overlapping lines, it's something that I've considered before, but never really looked into, as it could be kinda tricky. In particular, arranging the lines... if you have two lines at once, and the first one ends, you want the second one to stay on the second line, with a gap above it (it could move upwards, but that'd be confusing)... and then, if a third line starts, it'd make sense to put it in the gap above the second line... but it may not fit, if it's a long line that word-wraps, or has the <code>volume</code> attribute turned up, or something. So there's an optimisation problem there to arrange all the lines without it being so tall that it runs out of space. But I may be overthinking it here, and a greedy heuristic is probably enough. I'll try it, and see what happens.
:::But don't hold your breath for either of these... I can't guarantee how long they'll take to write... what with the full-time work and all, I'm often not in the mood for programming outside work... but we'll see. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 03:58, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::::We could create a <code>lineindex</code> attribute to fix that problem. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 14:21, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Not really... maybe if every line was exactly the same height, it'd work, but that's not necessarily the case, with <code>volume</code> and word-wrap. Indeed, with word-wrap, the same line could be different heights on different computers, even with the same subtitles script. Much better to have a dynamic solution. It'd be less work for the transcribers that way anyway, which is kinda the point of this whole thing. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Midori Web Browser ==

You probably don't use linux but, your script does not work with midori's built in userscript engine. I want it to work with midori but do not know why it isn't working. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:11, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:The script uses a bunch of GreaseMonkey-specific features, for things like saving the preferences or loading subtitles from the wiki. From [http://wiki.xfce.org/midori_faq#user_scripts what I can tell], Midori doesn't support any of those (note the part that says "Midori also does not support greasemonkey's api"). I looked into it briefly before, when I was considering supporting Opera... but without those features, it would be a lot of work. Maybe I'll take another look in the future, but don't hold your breath. (Incidentally: Yes, I do use Linux.) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 13:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::I don't need preferences if I can just have a userscript that does the following:
::* Stretches the flash
::* Check if next toon exists
::* Has the seek bar
::But I guess it's still not possible. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:48, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Like I said, it would be a heck of a lot of work to retrofit the script to not depend on Greasemonkey. That includes stripping out the script so that only some features are available - all the different features are pretty interconnected at the moment, it's hard to remove just one of them. It's my long-term plan to clean up the script and make it simpler to manage, but that's been my long-term plan since before the subtitles thing started 3 years ago, and I still haven't even started, so don't hold your breath. And anyway, that "check if the next toon exists" thing is one of the things that depends on the GM API, so even if I could quickly strip down the features, I couldn't do that one easily.
:::However! You might have some luck with the original scripts that the all-in-one script was based on. I suspect that the [http://userscripts.org/scripts/review/633 Homestar Full-on] ''could'' work in other browsers that have userscript features... I haven't tried it, but it looks like it could work (it doesn't depend on GreaseMonkey, but it might implicitly depend on Firefox, that's harder to tell just by looking at the script). The [https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/flash.html seek bar] bookmarklet might work, it might not. Try it and see. Obviously, if they don't work, there's not much I can do about it, but it's worth a shot. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:41, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, they unfortunately do not work. The seek bar bookmarklet gives an error even (1 @ undefined) Oh well. I'll just use my display in 1024x768, since my screen is square and not widescreen. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 22:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::WHOA! It works now! The fullon I mean. (It sometimes causes the flashes to be blank, reloading the page fixes that.) {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 01:17, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

=== Revisiting Midori With 0.2.4 ===
Well, the fullon resizes the flash, but now refreshing won't fix the blank flash box. Oh well, guess I'll have to watch it small. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 00:00, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Feedburner ==

Yeah, the navbar on greasemonkey doesn't show the 'subscribe' button. Just saying. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 21:10, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
:{{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Phlip/Greasemonkey&diff=681479&oldid=660845 Yes it does}}. Are you sure your script is up to date? It has an option to check for updates automatically, but maybe you've turned that off? {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:18, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
::Huh, don't know why it was off. I don't '''''think''''' I turned it off. weird. Thanks! {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 21:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

== Opening as plain text ==

Firefox = check, Greasemonkey = go, and it worked a couple of weeks ago. But the Greasemonkey stuff vanished from H*R, oh, about the time the "visit our store" link appeared on it. I uninstalled and reinstalled Greasemonkey, but when I try clicking on the "click here to install" link, all it does is open the script ''in plain text'' instead of installing the script to Greasemonkey. I tried saving the script to my desktop and running it there, but it complains that, on character 1 of line 122, "document" is undefined. Um? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 01:15, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
:If you save it and just try to run it, it'll do [[Wikipedia:Windows Script Host|something completely different]]... that's not going to work. You might have some luck if you save it to disk and then open it in Firefox (as opposed to just double-clicking it) but it'll probably do the same thing. Is Greasemonkey enabled? Check the little monkey in the status bar, he should be all colourful and smiley (as opposed to greyscale and frowney). {{User:Phlip/sig}} 07:55, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
:: That was it, actually. Thanks! --{{User:Jay/sig}} 08:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

== Chrome Now Can Install... but... ==

You need to install [http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/5166 from here] instead. Unfortunately, even though Chrome has the greasemonkey APIs, your extension, Philip, doesn't work. the only portion that DOES work is the flyout settings menu when looking at a homestarrunner.com page. None of the settings can actually be saved. You need a git or development version of chrome to be able to install the script I believe, and that's easily done on ubuntu using the chromium daily ppa from launchpad. However, as said by [http://blog.chromium.org/2010/02/40000-more-extensions.html this blog] about the new feature, you will most likely have to edit your script so it works with chrome. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:50, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, I know, both Chrome and Opera and a couple of other browsers have user script engines, but most of them don't have the power necessary to run this script (neither Opera nor Chrome for instance allow cross-site AJAX requests, which are required for subtitles, rando and check-for-updates) and even the features they do have, you need to use in a different way (eg Opera doesn't have the GM_* functions, so I'd need to re-write all the preference-saving and AJAX code using other APIs). This doesn't make it ''impossible'' to make a script this complicated that will work in all these browsers... but it means it'd be a ''lot'' of work to retrofit an existing script to work.
:tl;dr: Only Firefox is supported for the foreseeable future. Like I [[#Midori_Web_Browser|said to you before]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 21:38, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::I just wanted to make sure that when other people ask why your script doesn't work with chrome (as, in the foreseeable future, I see chrome overtaking firefox due to google's advertising and whatnot) that they know what you have planned for the future. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 01:12, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== Eating Up CPU ==

Just to warn people who have non-HT Single Core Processors (true single-cores, meaning no logical cores.) I have a 1.60 GHz true single-core processor (atoms are not true single-cores), and adding this to homestarrunner.com shoots up CPU usage to 100% on idle. Unfocusing the tab in which the script is active will bring down the CPU. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 01:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Huh, it doesn't do that for me... my computer isn't single-core, but using this script doesn't cause my usage to shoot up to a single core being fully used. It does increase the usage a bit, but not drastically... the main culprits being (a) View fullscreen - obviously, if Flash has to render a larger area, it's going to take more processing time; and (b) Seek bar/subtitles... these too mean asking the Flash object a bunch what frame it's up to... which means a lot more context switching between the browser and the plugin, and all the wrappers and whatnot that needs... which is either the fault of Flash or the plugin architecture, I'm not sure which. Anyways - if you try turning those options off, it should help with your CPU problems. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
::I've turned off fullscreen thing, nothing changed; I don't want to turn off subtitles, but I turned off the seek bar, it took up half my CPU alone. I really like the subtitles project, so I don't want that to go away. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 15:42, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Firefox 4.0 & JaegerMonkey ==

With [http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20004620-264.html Firefox 4.0] coming this year (or so it seems), they plan to implement "JaegerMonkey," a javaScript engine that rivals Safari's and Chrome's. The suffix -Monkey, sounds like it'll probably be replacing Greasemonkey or even forcing greasemonkey users to recompile their scripts all together. What do you plan to do if this happens? Keeping in mind that Firefox is the ONLY browser that works with your script, no other does. —[[User:ColdReactive|ColdReactive]] 16:08, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'll cross that bridge when we come to it. I don't see anything to suggest JägerMonkey is going to supersede GreaseMonkey (it's more likely it got the -Monkey suffix from [[Wikipedia:SpiderMonkey (JavaScript engine)|SpiderMonkey]]). So I don't expect the changes to be that drastic (there's probably going to be new features the script could potentially use, but little in the way of old features disappearing). Also: yes, I get the fact that there's a couple of dozen browsers you've asked me to port the script to... I've made it clear that isn't going to happen. Being snarky isn't going to change that. Note the big GPL header at the top of the script - if you want it to work in Opera or Chrome or Midori or whateverthecrap other browser you're using this week, you're welcome to try to figure it out yourself. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:59, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

== Resizing option for recent toons ==

Hey, Phlip. The largest monitor I have is reasonably sized and yet can't show all of past two toons at their HTML'd resolution (at least in Firefox). I admire the screen-resizing option, but with an old laptop that can only do 1024×768 that struggles enough with Flash (The one I'm using right now, in fact. It runs Linux), I'd rather not have toons in the usual 550×400 resolution being scaled. Could there be an option so that users can downsize toons to their native resolution? After all, the newer toons were made in the usual 550×400, I've heard. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:20, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, could there be an option to set our preferred vertical resolution? {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:27, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== Firefox 4 zoom ==

I just noted that when I do the normal resize thing by holding down CTRL and using the scroll wheel in firefox 4, the homestar runner flash objects all are resized as well. Is this new to Firefox 4? Or was it already introduced into 3.6.x? I swear I wasn't able to do this previously. This probably should go somewhere else, but since I only really wanted the resize portion in this script, I may just forgo keeping greasemonkey. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 20:18, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:It works as you describe in at least 3.6.13. Maybe you had "Zoom Text Only" checked. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:54, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Do not play on load" option ==

I have another feature request, but it's more of a convenience than anything. Could we have the option to have the Flash paused on page load, instead of having it automatically play? This would help someone when they restore a browser session that has multiple tabs/windows on homestarrunner.com. In my case, I find myself going to a toon, and then adjusting my settings a few times to get it just right (or, in recent cases of one of my Linux machines, getting the Flash player to appear). The bad thing is that, after doing that, the very beginning of the toon is unpleasantly seared into my brain, after hearing it several times on several occasions. Please and thanks, {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig|nodash=nodash}} 19:53, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
:Someone has told me about the Firefox extension [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bartab/ BarTab] for Firefox versions 4.0b6 and below, which doesn't automatically load tabs when a browser session is restored. Then I learned that Firefox 4 through 7 have had an option like this available as a hidden option; in Firefox 8 it will be available through the Preferences window. I guess my request is no more, seeing as I have other options. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 20:25, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
::Hahaha, what timing. Firefox 8 is out three days later. I did not see that coming. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 22:33, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

== Flipper broken ==

The flipper function (that turns the website upside down) is broken. Can you please either remove the function or mirror the flipper SWF on mrphlip.com? {{User:Dagoth/sig}} (I mean that it shows a 404'd error in place of the flipped page)
: I'll have a bit of a look, but I'm not sure it'd work to mirror the SWF... Flash tends to get tetchy about that sort of cross-domain nonsense. Anyway, I haven't really touched this script in some time, and unless the hiatus ends, I probably won't any time soon... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:48, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
:: Yeah, doesn't work. I've disabled the flipper in the script... I didn't bother to set the "updated" flag, though, so it won't get sent out through the update notification thing... no need to alert people to have to pick this up just because a feature's getting removed. If you feel the need to have the non-working option disappear from your options, though, you can just click the "install the script" link on the page here. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 10:50, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

== Chromified All-In-One Prototype ==

I modified the userscript to work with Chrome (I have version 28.0.1500.95). It's a bit of a hack, but hey-- it works for the most part!
I tested the basics, if anyone wants to test it, download it here: http://cl.ly/QhpJ/allinone.user.js
To install:
1. Download the file (it'll likely complain that you can only use the Chrome App Store, ignore it because it's downloaded anyway)
2. Go to your Downloads folder and find allinone.user.js
3. Open the URL chrome://extensions in Chrome and drag and drop the allinone.user.js into that window.
4. Click Accept/OK/Sure/whatever it says when it asks about security to install it.
[[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 02:13, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Coach Z's Problems

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== Consensus of Creation? ==

Was there ever a consensus—or even a discussion— to separate this from [[Coach Z]]? Personally, I'm '''neutral''' to whether this page should stand on it's own, but it just seems odd that nothing was discussed before separating it. {{User:StrongAwesome74/sig}} 01:07, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:There was not. I personally think it's probably long enough for it to be separate. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 18:56, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
::I could probably go either way. It's a distinct enough topic that linking to a separate page is probably easier than linking to a section, so I'm fine with leaving it on its own page. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:21, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm with DeFender. It's long enough to stay as it is. [[User:SteakStyles|SteakStyles]] 20:14, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

== Hand-Eye Coordination? ==
i dont think that having bad hand-eye coordination is really a medical condition. theres lots of people out there with no hand-eye cooridination whatsoever. [[User:SteakStyles|SteakStyles]]
:It's certainly a problem though, especially for a coach... I wouldn't mind it being moved to a more appropriate section. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
::none of them see to really fit, though. [[User:SteakStyles|SteakStyles]]
:::Miscellaneous doesn't fit? Isn't that what it's for? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
::::yeah i guess that could work. [[User:SteakStyles|SteakStyles]] 12:52, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

== Color Blindness ==
In [[Fall Float Parade]] Coach Z said Strong Sad was yellow! Is he color blind or something? I mean, he doesn't look yellow to me.

== Awful Food ==

For the miscellaneous bullet:
* Even when he finds he's eating something awful, he still eats it.
Wouldn't this be grouped in with some of the food-related bullets in the Financial section? The fact that he doesn't get promised "three square meals a day" and that he can't afford "money cost" ice cream would imply that he's going to eat awful food for the sake of food. I'm probably just being nitpicky by this point, but I don't know if it's necessarily "miscellaneous".
[[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 01:54, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Coach Z's Problems

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{{watchtoon|videos/makeascenepax08|watch|Telltale}}

[[Image:Homsar_MakeScene.png|thumb|"I'm the buttersilk pancake!"]]

The audience of PAX got to help Telltale make their own little short with the Telltale Tool. Complete with guest voices!

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|The King of Town}}, {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Homsar}}, {{film|Strong Sad}} (voice only)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Badia]]

'''Date:''' Sunday, August 31, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 2:56

{{dvd|SBCG4AP Collector's DVD}}

==Transcript==
''{The following messages appear on the screen along with music}''

<blockquote style="background:#000000;color:#FFFFFF;padding:10px;width:480px;border:none;font-weight:bold;text-align:center;">
At PAX '08, we hosted a panel called 
"Make A Scene With Telltale." 
We worked with the audience to create 
a scenario and cutscene starring the cast of 
Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People
</blockquote>

<blockquote style="background:#000000;color:#FFFFFF;padding:10px;width:480px;border:none;font-weight:bold;text-align:center;">
The scene was conceived, written, and voiced 
by the audience, and built in the Telltale Tool 
by some of our choreographers during the panel.
</blockquote>

<blockquote style="background:#000000;color:#FFFFFF;padding:10px;width:480px;border:none;font-weight:bold;text-align:center;">
First, a little set-up...
</blockquote>

''{Cut to the computer room, with Strong Bad's 3D variation checking his email as usual. The music has stopped.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Give me the emails, Lappy! Shama-lama-dingalama-doomalama-domow!

<blockquote class="lappy email">
<div style="text-align:left">Where are you?</div>
Strong Bad - 
Uh, where are you? 
Our panel at PAX is about to start! Are you comeing? 
We'll try to kill time with the crowd until you show up. 
Please hurry! 
Emily M., Seattle WA
</blockquote>

''{He skips "Uh, where are you?" with a quick shake of his head. He pronouces "comeing" as "com-ey-ing." He first begins "We'll try to kill time..." as "We'll try to kill the crowd..." He interrupts himself with "Oh, 'Cuse me," and corrects himself. He says "Emily M." as "Emily...M...ily."}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' PAX? ''{Unemotionally}'' Oh, right. ''{Snottily}'' That is so 2004. Is that thing even cool anymore? ''{clears the screen}'' ''{Angrily}'' Well, even though you guys have me working NON-STOP making SBCG4AP, I'd LOVE to drop everything and fly halfway across the country to spend the weekend trading Wii friend codes with a bunch of ''{Starts yelling}'' web-comic reading dorks. ''{Refrains from yelling back to his normal tone}'' But, I can't. Some, uh, thing ''{Types "something"}'' came up. But I can explain everything in about 1 minute or less. See, ''{Starts speaking hesitantly}'' I was at that place talking to somebody...

''{Fades out to a shot of a angled view of Strong Bad from the ground, with the Strong Badia flag in the background.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{The guest imitates him with a deeper-pitch}'' Uh, man, that guy, that, guy, uh, The King of Town, yeah.

''{Cut to an angled straight view the fence, with The King of Town in the middle.]''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' ''{The guest imitates him with a higher-pitch}'' Hmm...butter! Rich, creamy- ''{Blandly}'' Whaaat?! Strong Bad!

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Are you invading Strong Badia with...butter?

''{Cut back to The King of Town}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Of course not! That's ridiculous! What I'm really doing is...making the largest pancake. ''{His moustache curves a to resemble a smile}''

''{Cut to back to Strong Bad, less angled and more close-up.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Okay, now that's much more sensible.

''{Cut to Homestar, who appears to have been standing next to The King of Town the entire time.}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' ''{The guest imitates him without his usual speech impediments}'' Uhhh...I'm standing right here, guys, uhhh... ''{Looks below him}'' in this pancake.

''{Cut to Homsar who is floating in front of the fence's left end.}''

'''HOMSAR:''' ''{The guest imitates him almost perfectly}'' DaaAAAAAaaa! I'm the buttersilk pancake!

''{Cut back to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' He's not kidding, you know. It really is buttery... ''{Soothingly}'' and delicious. ''{Grins}''

''{Cut back to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' This is ridiculous. We gotta hang out with the coherent people of...Seattle.

''{Cut to The King of Town}''

'''THE KING OF TOWN:''' Coherent? Have you ever been ''{pronounces "been" as it's spelled}'' to PAX? 

''{Fades out back to the Lappy.}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{Voiced normally}'' ''{music plays}'' So, E-maily, that why I couldn't make it. Besides, have you seen ''{does not say "have"}'' the kind of people ''{a stretched picture of a PAX audience twirls in from the centers with swoosh sound effects}'' that show up at those things? ''{Stops typing and mumbles to himself disgustedly}'' No thanks, man! ''{The photo twirls back with the same sound. Strong Bad supposedly hits enter with no tapping sound}'' 'Duhhh...Tell Ensign ''{pronounced "en-sine"}'' Crusher or Jonathan Coulton or whoever that I said what's up. I'll send my seasonal-depressed brother Strong Sad in my place.

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{Off-screen, with Strong Bad turning his to the left}'' I can't be bothered with panels. I'm DM'ing the climax of my epic Maps and Minions campaign in table-top 3 play!

'''STRONG BAD:''' Uh, ''{Turns his head forward again}'' yeah. ''{Supposedly pressed/presses enter earlier/now}'' Maybe next year. ''{Supposedly presses enter again}'' Buy SBCG4AP! ''{Ends sentence with a period}'' ''{Supposedly presses enter}'' That wasn't an ad. ''{Supposedly presses enter}'' I was just telling SBCG4AP goodbye. ''{Supposedly presses enter}'' Bye! ''{Quickly}'' SBCG4AP

==Fun Facts==
===Explanations===
*"PAX" is the common acronym for [[Wikipedia:Penny Arcade Expo|Penny Arcade Expo]], an annual gamer festival held by the creators of the web comic [[Wikipedia:Penny Arcade|Penny Arcade]], hence Strong Bad's comment of "trading Wii friend codes with a bunch of webcomic-reading dorks".

===Remarks===
*Lipsyncing was notably out-of-sync at times, probably from a short time frame the panel had to work with.

===Trivia===
*During the "fan-made" scene, there are constant laughs. They're quite hard to hear because of their low volume.

===Inside References===
*The audience's plot includes mention of [[butter]].
*Strong Bad's pronunciation of "comeing" is the same as in [[dangeresque 3]].
*The music that plays after the cut back to the Lappy was used with the Lappy's introduction in [[animal]], which would later be used with the [[Steaky Steaky 6 Millenium Edition]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Wesley Crusher|Ensign Crusher]] is a major character from [[Wikipedia:Star Trek TNG|Star Trek]]. The actor who played him, [[Wikipedia: Wil Wheaton|Wil Wheaton]], is a well known participant in online culture and frequent attendee of PAX.
*Strong Bad's mention of [[Wikipedia:Jonathan Coulton|Jonathan Coulton]] is a reference to the popular musician.
* Emily M. refers to [[Telltale Games|Emily Morganti]].

===Fast Forward===
*In September 2010, a Telltale panel once again collaborated with an audience at PAX in [[Make a Scene with Telltale at PAX 2010]]. However the only Homestar Runner character in the final product was Marzipan, and she only had one line.

==DVD Version==
*The DVD includes an extended version of this short, including the making of segments.
{{stub}}

==External Links==
*[[Telltale:videos/makeascenepax08|watch "Make a Scene with Telltale: Strong Bad Edition"]]
*[[YouTube:ldmzU-8QYHU|view the PAX crowd watching the first part of the toon]]
*[[YouTube:f5aLocBwYHk|view the production of the guest voicing]]

{{SBCG4AP}}

User talk:Atarifanatic

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Talk:Hremails

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{{featuredarticle}}
== Cleanup ==

Does anyone know how to make an email address be clickable in the article? I think this page is very organized because someone greatly improved my work. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}
:Check the external links down at the bottom there. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:45, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks! {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}}

== Transcripts ==

Does anyone object to me moving the transcripts from [[email thunder]] to this page? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 21:56, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

== Article title ==

I think we should move this article to [[Homestar Runner Email]], to make the article title match up with [[Strong Bad Email]]. "Hremail" is just short for "Homestar Runner Email" anyway, like how "sbemail" is short for "Strong Bad Email". {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 20:56, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:It's never actually referred to as "Homestar Runner Email", though. "HREmail" is consistently used throughout. However, I do see your point, and would not be opposed to it, should it happen. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:02, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
::Done and done. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 21:10, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:::There was no consensus to move. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 21:21, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
::::I vote for move, and since there seems to be no evident resistance against moving... --{{User:Sysrq868/sig}} 21:45, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Take it easy, fellas. This discussion has only been open for about an hour; give folks some time to weigh in. I myself am with DorianGray. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 22:00, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Aaaaand a consensus has not been made. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 21:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::"HREmail" was what was said. "Homestar Runner Email" is what we infer that it means. '''No move'''. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::But we have [[Strong Bad Email]] and we don't have the article named '''Sbemail''' now do we? What if we moved [[Strong Bad Email]] to '''Sbemail''' and let everyone ''infer'' that it's Strong Bad Emails, like you said we should do for this article?! We need to have the ''proper'' name for articles, not the abbreviation. Imagine what would happen if we did '''HR''', '''SB''', '''CZ''', '''PP''', ect. It's total madness! I vote '''move.''' {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 21:22, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::The difference is, they're CALLED "strong bad emaiuls" and just shortened to "sbemails". here, they're already called "hremails". {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:28, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::We still shouldn't have the abbreviation. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 21:30, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::It was only called "HREmails" meaning that it's not an abbreviation. It's its name, until and unless we're shown otherwise. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::We know that the proper word is Homestar Runner Emails. It makes no sense for us to have only an abbreviation when we '''''KNOW''''' what it is, regardless of what the characters call it or not. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 21:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
We report things as they are, not as we "know" them to be. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:42, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
:Fine. Let's keep it the bad way. It should at least be moved to ''Hremail'' without the '''s'''. Like [[Strong Bad Email]]. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 21:44, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
::Wait, not yet. Remember, Homestar calls it "Hremails" referring to his email show and calls Strong Bad's email show "Sbemails" right afterwards. Sounds to me like Homestar just felt like abbreviating. If he had called his email show "Hremails" and then called Strong Bad's email show "Strong Bad Email" right after then that would prove that "Hremails" is the actual name. But Homestar calling it "Sbemails" proves that he was just shortening each of the names, right? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I couldn't agree more. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 01:59, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::::A consensus ''still'' hasn't been reached. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 16:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
c'mon, guys! I even think it should be moved to [[Homestar Runner Email]] considering what homestarwinner said. i think it's a g-e-w-d '''''GEWD''''' idea. [[Special:Contributions/74.193.237.18|74.193.237.18]] 18:51, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::The name "Homestar Runner Email" is, as of now, unofficial. Our article [[Strong Bad Email]] is named as such because of the '''''site listed''''' toon category. "Hremails" is the only way they've ever been reffered to as, therefore, the official name, until noted otherwise by TBC themselves, is "Hremails". {{User:That_game_dude386/sig}} 02:26, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Why not just call the article "Hremail (Homestar Runner Email)" until the "official" name is announced? {{User:Fotoshop/sig}} 04:54, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::The point is, before Homestar said "Hremails," he said that Strong Bad had "Sbemails." Both of them are short, meaning that Homestar abbreviated both of them for time sake.
move to homestar runner email? michaelXX2 told me this on irc, and i agreed, and since he's blocked, i'll post it. i just think we should. need i say more?? {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 02:35, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
:Actually, it ''would'' help if you said more, because hearing an opinion is easier to base a page move on than just "Michael said something, I agreed...there ya' go". From what I hear, the "show" hasn't been referred to as "Homestar Runner Email"...only as "Hremails". So I think it makes sense to keep the article under this name. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 03:06, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
::Like I said, Homestar abbreviated "Sbemails." If he abbreviated "Sbemails," what makes you think he didn't abbreviate "Hremails?"
:::Yes, but the correct title for "sbemail(s)" is/are "Strong Bad Email(s)", whereas for "hremails", there is no official title as far as we know (and we might never know). {{User:DevonM/sig}} 03:48, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
::::What in the world makes you think that Homestar didn't mean the same freakin' CONCEPT ABOUT HIS ABBREVIATION?! WHAT MAKES HIS DIFFERENT?!
:I'd like to chime in with a "who cares?". Seriously, this is among the more useless discussions I have ever encountered on a wiki. I hope you are proud of yourselves. That said, there are two main ideologies at stake here: should we go with the standard we are already using (Strong Bad Email --> Homestar Runner Email), or should we go by the name the characters use in the cartoon? I'm personally more enamored of the former, but quite frankly, it just ''doesn't matter''. One will always redirect to the other. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] [[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]] 04:01, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
::Move then.
:::I deliberately outdented my response, as I wasn't replying to any particular poster, but to my opinion on the dispute in its entirety. I don't oppose a move, nor do I oppose keeping it where it's at. What I do oppose is mindless bickering over an issue that, quite frankly, is entirely 100% meaningless. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] [[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]] 05:23, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
::::It's far from meaningless. The article has to be called ''something'', and this page is where we decide what that should be. Regardless of whether you think some people are bickering, the issue raised is a legitimate one, and it deserves a hearing. Posting without giving an opinion just takes up space. I think we should stick with '''hremails''' as long as it's a one-off joke, since that's what it was called in the email. If they ever make ''real'' Homestar Runner Emails, then that might be another matter. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:01, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well, I guess the new Hremail takes care of this discussion. I no longer feel angry that people went with the other name! {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 21:34, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
But now we have the issue as to whether or not the article title is pluralized or not. I believe that if '''Strong Bad Email''' is not pluralized, this shouldn't be either. But that reason is similar to my reason why I thought it should be moved to "Homestar Runner Email", and that idea of mind wasn't accepted. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:55, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::: Well, my Hremails are dead. This almost never happens! (Translation: Since Hremails have been killed off in the 201st Strong Bad Email, hereafter known as "The Un-Hremail", we may never know. It is possible that Hremails will be forgotten know, or maybe not. Either way, we may never get an official name at this point. The name is fine when, and if Hremails come back. Yes, I know this is old. Just beating the dead horse. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 19:57, 3 September 2009 (UTC))

== Sbemail 49 and Hremail 49 ==

In Sbemail 49 Strong Bad talked about a theme party, and in Hremail 49 Homestar was having a pillow fight... am I the only one who notices that the latter might be referencing the former (sort of)?
:Uh...no. You have to go through a few steps to be able to correctly associate the two, and we don't play "Kevin Bacon" here (except in some situations, I'm sure). {{User:DevonM/sig}} 07:31, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
::If you want to go those stretches, then Hremail 24, which was "banned for content" could be a reference to [[Sbemail 24]], which contained quite a few people giving a pretty racy hand gesture... as for Hremail 62, I'm not sure how having an [[Sbemail 62|interview]] with Homsar could tie-in to it. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 07:12, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

== Really Continued? ==

Does anyone think this whole "hremails" thing is ''really'' going to start? And if so, do you think this could be a way TBC are trying to increace Homestar Runner's popularity after it has waned for the past few years? -{{User:Opus the Penguin/sig}} 16:55, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
:Um...no?
::Let's take this discussion to the [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum]. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:01, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Um.... ==

Am I the only one who thinks it's kinda weird that TBC started with hremails 24, 49 and 62? {{User:Stark Traurig/sig}}
:I fail to see a pattern. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:55, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::The average of all the numbers are three. Other than that no. Though I am starting to think... --[[Special:Contributions/69.150.85.66|69.150.85.66]] 22:59, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::The Hexidecimal value of the sum of all three are [[1987|87]]! Too bad it's a stretch.--[[Special:Contributions/69.150.85.66|69.150.85.66]] 23:01, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::::But if you subtract 49 from 62, and then subtract 24 from that, you get -11, an obvious reference to their [[$11.01]] running gag!!! {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:29, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I think i has the solution! Width times height. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:54, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::I'm not sure Stark Traurig meant that there was a pattern; I read her question as simply noting that it was odd to start 24, 49, 62 instead of 1, 2, 3 like one normally would. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 02:57, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, well I find that just as a cover-up for the "intermix" between [[caper|some]] [[long pants|emails]]. Getting it to start off at one? That just makes it a little awkward, in my opinion. --[[Special:Contributions/69.150.85.66|69.150.85.66]] 03:11, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

::::::::yes, according to sbemail 200, he's had hremails since forever. they have to start high for that to continue from since forever...whenever that is... {{User:Homsarstrongbad150/sig}} 22:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== Name change: Hremails-Hremail ==

I think we need to have this match up with [[Strong Bad Email]] as much as possible. We need to have it singular. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 22:07, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:Makes sense to me. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 22:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::Why not "Homestar runner email?"--[[User:Mariofan1000|Mariofan1000]] 18:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::See [[Talk:Hremails#Article title|this post]]. Personally, I like the rename to "Hremail." {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 18:11, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, we agreed that the show itself is called "Hremail"  and that we don't need to change it to Homestar Runner Email, even though I think it ''should'' be. If the consensus was that we keep it as Hremails, why not have it singular like [[Strong Bad Email]] at the very '''''least?!^$@(*&@!*%&@%starstar''''' {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 02:20, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::I also agree too. [[User:Omnisweater|Omnisweater]] 02:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::I'm not so sure. Specifically, I'm not sure these things should be thought of as a unit ("Hremail is...") as opposed to individual members of a group ("Hremails are..."). The two quotes from the source that best support this are from the email Easter egg ("Just sit tight and hremails will be back to normal before you know it") and the Strong Sad Easter egg ("Is the reign of Hremails at hand?"). — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:53, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I agree with dot com. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 19:37, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah well, It think it should just Be '''Homestar Runner Email''' and typing in hremail could be a redirect just like [[sbemail]].-{{User:Record307/sig}} 19:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::So, Dot com, you want to change Strong Bad Email to Strong Bad Emails because of thinking of them as a unit? Okay, let's rename [[Strong Bad Email]] to [[Strong Bad Emails]]! Because that seems to be the point you're making. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 21:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::I personally think [[Strong Bad Emails]] would sound better. But since it isn't, wouldn't keeping this article as '''Hremail''' be better for consistency? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:14, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::I agree with Dot com and Deffy. '''Hremails''' is the most fitting title. Hremails are not (yet) an institution like sbemails. There is no need for consistency between two articles that describe something rather different.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:58, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::To clarify, I said nothing about [[Strong Bad Email]]. I realize that it might seem inconsistent, but, try as I might, I just don't think of Hremail in the collective sense that I do Strong Bad Email, so Hremails still seems the better fit. That may change, but so far it hasn't. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 06:16, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::AH! But you are forgetting one thing. What do we have at the top of Hremail 62? "Hremail #62". Not "Hremails #62". We also have "Strong Bad Email #Whatever". Hence, Hremail should be the proper name, not Hremails. [[User:SBE-mail Checker Dan|SBE-mail Checker Dan]] 03:08, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::well, would you expect them to have a title like "Hremails #62"? 62 is only one hremail, therefore it would always be in the singular. "Strong Bad Email" makes it sound more like a primary feature of the website, which is a level that "Homestar Runner Email" just doesn't live up to. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 05:56, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Well, hremails became a weekly feature... for two weeks in a row. Besides, SB_email isn't a primary feature anymore, so will it eventually be moved to Sbemails? [[User:SBE-mail Checker Dan|SBE-mail Checker Dan]] 22:04, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

== Counting ==

Apparently, Homestar has no way of counting correctly, because in one week, he went from hremail 62 to hremail ''2000.'' That's a difference of 1938! Should we mention anything about that on the article?--[[User:Crudely Drawn Cupcake|Crudely Drawn Cupcake]] 02:38, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
: The implication is that we're not seeing all of the Hremails; after all, it ''started'' on 62, did it not? (well, okay, there are those two semi-Hremails.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 02:39, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::Indeed. These are just snippets of the apparently extremely long-time running Hremail show. They're in no chronological order. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 02:52, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Or that's just how Homestar counts. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 05:48, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Or perhaps that Hremail 2000 isn't really the 2000th Hremail, just a way of it's advancement into a "regular" cartoon. For example, if I saw an extremely awesome cheese, i'd call it Cheese 3000. -[[User:FalconPuncher]]

== Hremail 24 & 49 ==

Should there be a seperate article explaining the Hremails mentioned in the headline ([[Hremails#Hremail_24|24]] and [[Hremails#Hremail_49|49]])? We move the transcripts out, put Fun Facts from the [[Email Thunder#Fun_Facts|Sbemail]] and transcripts in. Not seperate, ([[Hremail 24]] and [[Hremail 49]]) but these two in one article. [[User:Meaty85203|Meaty85203]] 21:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== Image ==

Regarding {{pl|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Hremails&oldid=627758 this edit}}, I think we need to keep the image, until we get a blockquote something. I think it looks cute.
:I think Hremails 24, 49, and Email Thunder need a Happy background. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 23:45, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::I think an image is very unnecessary. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:46, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Hold the phone. I can make a Hremail blockquote, but I'm using an iphone now. I'll try as soon as I get home. SO DONT MAKE ONE {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 00:02, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

== Email Response ==

The "oh dango..." response only happened one time of which we are aware (i.e. with mr_josh). So we don't know for sure whether this is the response for ALL chosen hremails, which of course there are only two of anyway. Also, do we know what Strong Bad's response was to his chosen emails? And if so, why isn't that on the [[Strong Bad Email]] page? If for some good reason, Strong Bad's response is not on the Strong Bad Email wiki page, then for that same good reason, Homestar's response should not be on the Hremail wiki page.

== Soup, Not Subtitles ==

Do the (full length) HRemails subtitle language names appear double for everyone or is it just me? And somehow this page has the subtitles box for HRemail 49.

Here is a pic to see what I mean:
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8990/doublesubtitleau3.png
(It's from the [[Hremail 2000]] page)

- [[User:AlmsforthePudgy|Almsforthepudgy]]
:Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 19:55, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

== Hremails list ==

So rather than reverting again, i'm taking this to talk. The list of hremails as it is looks terrible IMO, and i think it looked far better in table form as it was in [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Hremails&oldid=640857 this revision]. The reason the strong bad email page is done the way it is, is because that's how it looks on the website, and that one actually looks good, as opposed to this one which just has this ugly white block. Thoughts? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:Agreed on all counts. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 22:28, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
::I agree as well. Not much else I can say... DeFender's way looks better. -{{User:YK/sig}} 22:32, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:::To be fair, it's not MY way... i just advocate it. Omnisweater is the one who initially changed it. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 22:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, I prefer Omnisweater's way, which Defender and the rest are also supporting; I just don't think "I say version B looks prettier" is a legit enough reason. Now, I don't think there's any need for this article to have a block quote since Hremails is a much, much, ''much'' more minor feature than Strong Bad Email. (It doesn't even have a button!) I hope that reason's legit. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 22:58, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::In response to [http://hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Hremails&curid=44451&diff=640868&oldid=640859&rcid=599903 this summary], I don't recall ever saying, "I say version A looks prettier", did I? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 23:04, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::I don't have a problem with the table, but I would like to state that the style similar to the Strong Bad Email list did not look ''terrible''. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:17, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

== Chronically chronological ==

Should we list the Hremails in their ''actual'' order, or the ''hypothetical'' order they came out in (which would put [[Hremail 7]] first)? I suppose it's more correct, but it was weird looking at the tables here going "62, 2000, 7". --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:12, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
:I say order in which they came out... the tables are already weird being that they skip numbers like crazy etc. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 21:14, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
:: I say number order, (7, 24, 49, 62, 2000) since if in order when they came out, that'd make 49 before 24. --[[User:FalconPuncher/sig]] 18:31, 4 May 2009
:::No it wouldn't, they were out the same day. And it wouldn't matter if it was, we always list things chronologically, and i see no reason to stop now just because of homestar's funky numbering scheme. Think of it like this, do we list all the old-timey toons before the regular type? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:58, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Eh, ok, i guess you're right [[User:FalconPuncher]]
:::::No, we don't always list things chronologically. On [[Strong Bad Emails]], where is [[sbemail_22]] listed? --{{User:Jay/sig}} 00:23, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::That's a very good point. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 00:25, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Ooh... well, there goes my argument... i guess i'm neutral again. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 00:26, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

== It Starts With C and Rhymes With...Bontext... ==

During which part of "8-Bit is Enough" does Homestar mention Hremails? Searching "Hremail" didn't really help. {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 16:17, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
: It's a random hint given by Homestar around the time you need to visit Stinkoman, if you have hints turned on. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:38, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
: See [[8-Bit Is Enough Responses#Hints|here]]. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 16:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

== Sent ==

I tryed somewere around 156 times to email Homestar. all that came up was some guy from Gmail saying "there is no email address by that name" Now I am really POed. Help? [[User:Origonalname]]

== Hremail 3184 Screenshot - Bashing or Boredom? ==

I recently added Hremail 3184 to the list, and the picture I chose got replaced with a better one (of the garden-weasel bashing) from the Hremail segment. Since then, another image - one of Homestar looking bored - has been added to the top of the hremail3184 wiki page. I thought of replacing the garden-weasel image with that one, but I decided to ask you guys. Which would be better? [[User:BiggerJ|BiggerJ]] 03:53, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:The garden weasel beating one is probably better. I only put the bored one on that page because it previously has a spoiler picture of the desk after the explosion. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:55, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Hremails going extinct ==

Seeing how Hremails only appear on the New Stuff menu, and were until recenlty a feature, does that mean that once enough toons and such are made they will dissapear from the site (not counting finding them via urls or wiki pages)? I mean, how is anyone supposed to know about them after they are gone? Unless they work for/know of the wiki, Hremails are gonna be toast. Is that gonna happen? --[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 19:58, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
:Doubt it. Hremails were likely used as a filler while [[Strong Bad|Stro Bro]] was in E-tirement. But I haven't seen anything put up and linked to on the website that was taken down, except for [[Marshmallow's Last Stand]], [[A Jumping Jack Contest]] and [[Stinkoman 20X6]] briefly. Besides, weren't [[Hremails]] mentioned in [[email thunder]]? Obviously anyone who sees that Sbemail will look for Hremails, right? {{User:That'sBupkis/sig}} 20:09, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
::We have toons from '07 on the New Stuff menu, so I think Hremails should be there at least until 2011, and by then, maybe more will have been made. [[User:SBE-mail Checker Dan|SBE-mail Checker Dan]] 20:29, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== Numbered Hremails ==

A section with the title "Numbered Hremails" was recently added to the page with the following text:
<blockquote>
The numbers used for the hremails are very strange. Hremails have seemingly randomly picked numbers. However, the first sbemail was released on August 22nd, 2001, or when 2014 strikes, 644.4285714285714 weeks and 4511 days. If there were hremails every week, the hremails might have to be answered at the same time, as there's only 3184 hremails known, which might explain why the start of sbemail 201/hremail 3184, [[Homestar Runner]] is looks tired.
</blockquote>
I'm not entirely sure what it's trying to say, so I removed it and put it here until we can decipher it and decide if the message is worthwhile or not. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:33, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
:Pure speculation, but my thought on what he's saying:
<blockquote>
The amount of time between the first sbemail on August 22nd, 2001, and January 1, 2014 is 644.429... weeks, or 4,511 days. Since the majority of hremails were produced during this time, and assuming that hremails would most likely be a weekly event and that the last known hremail (3184) is the latest, about five emails have to be answered at a time (which would likely be a new show per hremail). This might explain why at the start of sbemail 201/hremail 3184, Homestar Runner looks so tired.
</blockquote>
I didn't check if the amount of weeks/days is correct, but running 13 * 365 on a calculator shows close enough. Although, if this is actually followed, it should only go to when hremail 3184 was posted, not to 2014.
[[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 02:05, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Talk:different town

2013-07-20T05:45:32Z

Atarifanatic: /* Modestly hot my eye */ - Oops, that was meant to be a link

{{featuredarticle}}

==Star==
Does anyone think that homestar ripping off his star could be a reference to Marshmallow's Last stand, where Strong Bad steals it from him?
:No. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:00, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
*I think it could be. That's what I thought when I first saw it. —{{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

==Jacket==
Maybe it is just me, but where the transcript says "And Coach Z would wear this cool jacket." I keep hearing "And Coach Z would wear a schooljacket". Does anyone agree?

I do, and I don't think it's a matter of opinion as atleast the mp3 version of the song goes "would wear a schooljacket" - 212.94.80.106

:Would a listen of the DVD version where John Linnell sings the song help any?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:06, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

::Probably, as I'll admit the distinction is (after listening to it about 20 times or so) small. - 212.94.80.106

::I just listened to the John Linnell version and it's definitely "this cool jacket" — [[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 19:17, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Acknowledged. - 212.94.80.106

:::: The whole thing also comes down to: Coach Z is not wearing any sort of school jacket in that scene. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:13, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== Over-linking ==
Every instance of a character’s name does not need a link. Linking the first mention of the name or place is sufficient. [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 16:15, 14 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Yes, I agree. This needs to be clear from the start. I think there's something about it in the [[Help:Contents|Help section]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:30, 14 Sep 2004 (MST)

== First Shirt? ==
Strong Bad wears a shirt in [[stand-up]].--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 16:20, 12 Nov 2004 (MST)

That was Lil' Strong Bad. [[User:Seek Bar|Seek Bar]]

== Over-sensitive referencing? ==

Is the "fourteenth song" really an explicit reference to a particular performance by a particular band? Doesn't every band introduce their songs that way upon ocassion? - [[ehsteveistaken]]

:I deleted it at one point because I felt that it wasn't a reference, but hey, it's back now. Bye bye... - [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Pacdude pacdude]

"funny pronunciation", eh? Hah! Those funny Germans. They're so funny! And rubbish! God bless America. --[[User:195.92.67.75|195.92.67.75]]

== Baal ==
Given the game is on a floppy and the propensity of TBC for vintage games Baal is more likely a ref to the 1989 Dos/Amiga/Commodore 64 game. See [[Floppy Disk Container]] for details. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:39, 11 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Closed STUFF ==

These were on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page and declined. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

===Beastie Boys (Declined)===
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."
*'''Comment''' I STUFF'd this because it seems like a big stretch to me. I'm sure the Beastie Boys aren't the only ones who have said "this next one is the first song on our new album."
*'''Decline.''' Agreed - many bands have said this and it's way too common to be attributed to any one source. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:24, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:06, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:AwesomeSauce|AwesomeSauce]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:50, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondinated!!!''' --[[User:blakyoshi7|blakyoshi7]] 11:58, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Two'd!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:11, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''2nd.''' ("Two'd". Rudeboy is now my hero!) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Actually the voice at the beginning of the Beastie Boys' ''Check Your Head'' belongs to Robin Zander of Cheap Trick; it's a sample from the band's live album ''At Budokan''. (Zander was introducing the song "Surrender," the first track on ''Heaven Tonight''.) {{unsigned|71.136.230.120|03:52, 2 January 2007}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Make a hole with a fun fact ===
{{stufffact|The rhythm of Strong Bad's email song is taken from the They Might Be Giants song [http://tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Ana_Ng Ana Ng] – the first time is the same as the rhythm part under the verse, and the second time is this and the vocal rhythm mixed together.}}
{{stuffverdict|17:55, 23 March 2006 (UTC)|13:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|17|1|different town}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== First Song on Our STUFF'd Album ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad introduces his next song in the same manner that Cheap Trick frontman Robin Zander famously introduced "Surrender" on their landmark album Live at Budokan: "This is the first song off our new album!"}}
{{stuffverdict|21:45, 5 February 2006 (UTC)|01:52, 9 February 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined|12|0|different town}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== No Soup for You!! ===
{{stufffact|The Cheat pouring hot soup on Homestar's eyes is a reference to the [http://www.hbo.com/oz/ HBO Series OZ], [http://www.tv.com/oz/u.s.-male/episode/61334/summary.html Episode 305; U.S. Male], where this is done to inmates Poet and Pierce. This episode aired on 7/28/1999.}}
'''NOTE:''' This item applies to both [[New Boots]] and [[different town]]. 
{{stuffverdict|00:34, 25 October 2005 (UTC)|04:32, 1 November 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|17|2|New Boots}}

== That field... ==

Um, in the football fields page, it says that the football field is in this e-mail, but the field that Homestar calls it quits in is '''really''' not like the normal football field, what do you think? --[[User:Dinoshaur|Dinoshaur]] 15:38, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Real World References==
The OZ reference that you all keep deleting is legitimate. Please see [[New Boots]]. Follow the links, Google it, or watch the show.

:*I'm also familiar with this show. Why is it that this reference was dis-allowed? -[[User:B|B]] 06:52, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

::Sounds like coincidence to me. STUFF it if you think otherwise. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 08:06, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pink spiky hair ==
[[Image:Marzipanmohawk.PNG|thumb|90px|Pink spiky hair?]]
I have loaded the SWF into a decompiler in an attempt to verify the "secret" fun fact currently listed in the article (which needs to be moved to a real category). I can't find the pink spiky hair anywhere, just Marzipan's big yellow mane. Can anyone verify that the pink hair really exists and that we're not actually seeing fanstuff here? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:29, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:Confirmed. It's there. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:47, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Try double clicking the mane and delete part of it. You'll see the mohawk.-stuntman021
:It doesn't work... :-(
::If you aren't in a Flash decompiler, of course not. If you are using one, there's not reason why it shouldn't. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:59, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== '''Bust of'' or '''busted'''? ==

I hear busted Bubo, not bust of bubo--{{User:Benol/sig}} 21:30, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

I distinctly hear the "uh" sound in "of". Strong Sad's mouth moves more in the way of "of" rather than "ed". --{{User:Salty/sig}} 21:38, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

The Bubo item in the "fast forward" for the DVD - should it be moved to the "fast forward" for the email itself? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 23:19, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

== Linnell version ==

I have an mp3 of the Linnell version that I bought off a seedy looking guy in the alley behind Kroger late at night that I'm willing to send to anybody who wants it for [[Best/Worst X bucks I ever spent|$5]]. (In reality, I sent a guy I met on a message board I found searching Google for the mp3 a Gmail invite for it, and I'm willing to send it to anybody who wants it for free.) {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:16, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

== Entering email song "Check your Email and Check your Email" ==

This is actualy an vesion of They Might be Giants song "Ana Ang" off of the Lincoln CD. No one ever realized it yet.
- Sirbob

:Really? How does the Ana Ang song go? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:09, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

::There's a brief clip at [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000003BIP/qid=1143092223/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/102-4724388-0028131?s=music&v=glance&n=5174 Amazon]. Listen in a bit, to the rhythm section parts. There's a definite similarity. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:39, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

:::They're similar only in that they are heavily syncopated. The rhythms are actually quite different if you compare them in detail (unless I'm comparing it with the wrong part... from that clip Qermaq posted, would the line "All alone at the '64 world's fair" be the rhythm you're talking about?) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:35, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

::::I don't hear any lyrical comparison at all, but listen to the rhythm section parts under the vocals "All alone at the '64 World's Fair/Eighty dolls yelling "Small girl after all"". The chunk-y rhythm they're playing is identical to the "check--your e--mail--and check--your--e--mail" pattern - the inspiration for the email song? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:33, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't know how familiar you are with musical notiation, and I'm too lazy to make some, so here's some timeline ASCII art:
<pre>
- * * * - * * * | - * - * - * - *
All a-lone at the six - ty - four World's fair
- * * * - * * * | - * - * - - * *
Eigh-ty dolls yel-ling "Small girl af - ter all."

* - * * - * - * | * - * - * - * -
Check your e - mail and check your e - mail.
* - * * - * - * | * - * - * - * -
Check your e - mail and check your e - mail.
(Check your e - mail and check your e - mail.)
</pre>
(stars indicate eighth-notes with notes on them, hyphens indicate eighth-note rests). The rhythms are rather different - in particular, the "'64 World's fair" bit is off the beat, whereas the second "check your email" bit is on the beat. Interspersing regular rhythms in a syncopated piece is reasonably common (it's a little thing called contrast), Ana Ng is hardly the only song to do it... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:57, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:No, no, no. Read my post. The word rhythm is very different. I'm comparing the rhythm of the "check your email" to the RHYTHM SECTION PART under the vocals in that spot. Not the lyrics. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:04, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Let me demonstrate. <pre>
- * * * - * * * | - * - * - * - * (lyrics rhythm)
All a-lone at the six - ty - four World's fair (lyrics)
* - * * - * - * | * - * - * - * - (rhythm section rhythm)
Check your e- mail and check your e- mail (let's all sing along!)
</pre>

See? I'm not saying this is necessarily notable enough to go over there on the page, but it's certainly a striking... striking thing. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:32, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, you're right! Wow, I didn't notice that... Ordinarily I'd chalk it up to coincidence, but there is already a heavy [[TMBG]] influence in this email... Hmm... I'm gonna take it to [[STUFF]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 17:47, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

== 3 (thousand) is clearly a smaller number than a million ==

Depending on just how narrow the box filled with peas is, and based on the diameter of a pea compared to the width of the box, it would only hold around 3000 to 8000 peas. (Props to [[User:Phlip|Phlip]] for most of the math on this one.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:'''SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING:''' The following post contains large amounts of mathematics and geometry, which may be dangerous to your health. Persons who are of the faint-of-heart are advised not to read further. Side-effects include confusion, nausea, and disorientation. On the blown-up full-screen version I have on my screen, a pea is 28 pixels in diameter, and the front of the box is 515 pixels wide and 484 pixels tall, or 18.4x17.3 pea-diameters (henceforth abbreviated as "pd"). I see the box as about cuboid, with a depth of about 18pd, It's dot com sees it as significantly shorter (because there's fewer planks and based on the width of the box's frame), about 6pd (hence the 3000-8000 range in It's dot com's post). An individual pea has a radius of ½pd (of course), so its volume is (4/3)πr³ = 0.52pd³. The size of the box if it's near-cube is 18.4x17.3x18 = 5667pd³. The [[Wikipedia:Sphere packing|packing efficiency of spheres]] is about 75% (meaning that when you fill a box with spheres, about 25% is empty space) so only about 4258pd³ actually contains peas. Divide that by 0.52pd³, getting a bit over 8000 peas. If you say the box is 6pd deep, then you get closer to 3000 peas. However, this is taking into account the rather large size of the peas in the box... given a much smaller pea, a more realistic 7mm-diameter pea (or ¼") has a volume of 180mm³, a million taking 180,000,000mm³, or 240,000,000mm³ after the packing efficiency. This is the volume of a cube 620mm along each side, or about 24 inches – quite a bit smaller than the KoT's box (so a box that you could fit the KoT in could easily hold many more than a million peas). NB: All of this is not counting the space taken up by the King of Town himself, but as Tom pointed out, the label on the box just says that at one time it held a million peas. It doesn't have to have that amount in there now that the KoT is in there. Also, this uses the 75% packing efficiency of spheres, which is for a regular [[Wikipedia:Close-packing|close-packing]] arrangement, for a more reasonable random arrangement you'd get for just pouring peas into a box, it'd be significantly less. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:14, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:: :D {{User:FireBird/sig}} 11:49, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

==Why is it...==
This song was available for download but the songs from montage weren't? Do they just pick them at random? --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 18:25, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:Maybe it's coz this one was a collab with They Might Be Giants. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Song lyrics==

Are you sure Strong Bad doesn't say "his cool jacket" instead of "this cool jacket"? -[[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 18:40, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:Very sorry for bringing up this post that was over a year old, but I was just going to ask the same question before I saw that it has already been asked, but not answered. I personally hear "his cool jacket" not "this cool jacket." (Even when I listen to the DVD version of it). {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 05:30, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
::Oh. I always thought that he said "The school jacket" I think "His cool jacket" makes more sence than "This cool jacket", but that is just my opinion. --[[User:Philip8o|Philip8o]]

==Place==

I don't know which side of the argument I agree with regarding if the proper grammer for stongbad's quote at the end is correct or not. I can see the argument that it is incorrect because the easter egg makes it seem like it refers to a location (such as a city/state) called place. Thus it should be "I gotta go to Place." While it can also be argued that it could be like "home" where the "to" is not needed. . .I though would tend to say that the grammer is incorrect. Either way though. . . - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 01:05, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
*I tend to think of it as forgetting or deliberately leaving off the "s" at the end of "place'''''s'''''," if, of course, he wasn't trying to be [[vague]], as he usually is when it comes to getting out of embarrassing or otherwise awkward situations.

==Glitch?==
I dunno if it's just me and my speakers, but there appears to be a cut betewn "he'd look like a idiot basketball" and "one, two, one two (part with hot homsar)".
Does anyone else notice this? -EMOBUBS 21:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
*It's "ABA basketball", not "idiot basketball" --[[Special:Contributions/75.110.102.223|75.110.102.223]] 03:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
*I noticed that, but I never did before. {{User:Mee/sig}} 01:37, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

== Let there be recessed lighting ==

[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=different_town&curid=1037&diff=597036&oldid=597027&rcid=555342 This] is actually half true. Based on the light on the wall and floor, and the shadow of the chair, the light is more or less directly above SB. SB is shaded as if the light is coming from the top right, and SS is shaded as if the light is coming from the top left. Kind of in-between them. From the top. If we forget about SB's shading and assume that it always looks as if the light is coming from the top right... then we should look at the shadows on the wall and the floor, which show that the light is right above SB. All in all, I don't think it's notable enough to be mentioned in the article.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:27, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== My? ==

I could've sworn I heard "stupid baby brother" not "my stupid baby brother." Can any one shed some light on this mystery? --{{User:Platinum789hi/sig}} 01:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
:Nah, it's definitely "my". It's overlapping bubs's line, but it's there. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:45, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I'll Check to make sure. --{{User:Platinum789hi/sig}} 22:13, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it's there. Although, it's kinda faint because of the overlapping sound. Thanks much! --{{User:Platinum789hi/sig}} 22:18, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

== DWAYNE! ==

Is it me or does Strong Bad look smaller than usual when standing next to Strong Sad? [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 01:52, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

== Check your Email With Two E's ==

So it's been confirmed that the intro song is based on [[TMBW:Ana Ng|Ana Ng]]. Now here's something else to consider. Strong Bad has two rhythms going at once. If you listen closely, the first one is
Check your email and check your email
but the second one is
Check your email and check your e-email

And this actually makes perfect sense, compared to Ana Ng.

"Check your email and check your email" has nine syllables.
"All alone at the Sixty-Four World's Fair" has ten syllables, making the second "e" necessary to match the rhythm of the lyrics.

- all a lone - at the six - ty - four - world's - fair
- check your e - mail and check - your - e - e - mail

If you listen to the intro without trying to separate the two tracks, you'll hear three consecutive "e"s towards the end. The first and last "e" are from the second track ("all alone"), while the middle "e" is from the first track (the guitar riff).

Slow down the email, mash the audio up with Ana Ng, whatever you choose - you'll hear an extra "e". --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 15:54, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

== Modestly hot my eye ==

Odd title, thanks to Google:

[http://cl.ly/image/3M1p0C2c3c0m/image.png]

The actual page doesn't have that title, as it just has the typical "Compy 386!!". Is this typical? I tried with another one (lunch special) and just got the name of the sbemail.

[[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 05:36, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

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==Star==
Does anyone think that homestar ripping off his star could be a reference to Marshmallow's Last stand, where Strong Bad steals it from him?
:No. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 03:00, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)
*I think it could be. That's what I thought when I first saw it. —{{User:Supuhstar/sig}}

==Jacket==
Maybe it is just me, but where the transcript says "And Coach Z would wear this cool jacket." I keep hearing "And Coach Z would wear a schooljacket". Does anyone agree?

I do, and I don't think it's a matter of opinion as atleast the mp3 version of the song goes "would wear a schooljacket" - 212.94.80.106

:Would a listen of the DVD version where John Linnell sings the song help any?[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 06:06, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

::Probably, as I'll admit the distinction is (after listening to it about 20 times or so) small. - 212.94.80.106

::I just listened to the John Linnell version and it's definitely "this cool jacket" — [[User:Exhibit A|Exhibit A]] 19:17, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Acknowledged. - 212.94.80.106

:::: The whole thing also comes down to: Coach Z is not wearing any sort of school jacket in that scene. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 05:13, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

== Over-linking ==
Every instance of a character’s name does not need a link. Linking the first mention of the name or place is sufficient. [[User:Drhaggis|Drhaggis]] 16:15, 14 Sep 2004 (MST)

:Yes, I agree. This needs to be clear from the start. I think there's something about it in the [[Help:Contents|Help section]]. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 16:30, 14 Sep 2004 (MST)

== First Shirt? ==
Strong Bad wears a shirt in [[stand-up]].--[[User:Hysterical Woman|Hysterical Woman]] 16:20, 12 Nov 2004 (MST)

That was Lil' Strong Bad. [[User:Seek Bar|Seek Bar]]

== Over-sensitive referencing? ==

Is the "fourteenth song" really an explicit reference to a particular performance by a particular band? Doesn't every band introduce their songs that way upon ocassion? - [[ehsteveistaken]]

:I deleted it at one point because I felt that it wasn't a reference, but hey, it's back now. Bye bye... - [http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Pacdude pacdude]

"funny pronunciation", eh? Hah! Those funny Germans. They're so funny! And rubbish! God bless America. --[[User:195.92.67.75|195.92.67.75]]

== Baal ==
Given the game is on a floppy and the propensity of TBC for vintage games Baal is more likely a ref to the 1989 Dos/Amiga/Commodore 64 game. See [[Floppy Disk Container]] for details. [[User:Drhaggis|<nowiki></nowiki>]]- [[User:Drhaggis|Dr Haggis]] - [[User talk: Drhaggis|Talk]] 17:39, 11 Feb 2005 (MST)

== Closed STUFF ==

These were on the [[HRWiki:STUFF|STUFF]] page and declined. If you wish to contest these, leave a note here, but don't allow it to be confused with any of the original votes.

===Beastie Boys (Declined)===
"This next one is the fourteenth song on my forty-second album" is a paraphrase of the Beastie Boys' [http://www.beastieboys.com/] introduction to their song "Jimmy James" on their album "Check Your Head". In that song, the Beasties begin by saying, "This Next One, Is The First Song On Our New Album..."
*'''Comment''' I STUFF'd this because it seems like a big stretch to me. I'm sure the Beastie Boys aren't the only ones who have said "this next one is the first song on our new album."
*'''Decline.''' Agreed - many bands have said this and it's way too common to be attributed to any one source. --[[User:TheEggman|TheEggman]] 23:24, 14 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''"Second."''' --[[User:Aussie Evil|Aussie Evil]] 13:06, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:AwesomeSauce|AwesomeSauce]] 20:53, 15 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:tomstiff|tomstiff]] 21:50, 15 Mar 2005 (CST)
**'''Second.''' --[[User:Joshua|Joshua]] 18:49, 18 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Secondinated!!!''' --[[User:blakyoshi7|blakyoshi7]] 11:58, 27 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''Two'd!''' [[User:Rudeboy87|Rudeboy87]] 19:11, 30 Mar 2005 (MST)
**'''2nd.''' ("Two'd". Rudeboy is now my hero!) [[User:Kvb|Kvb]] 06:59, 5 Apr 2005 (MDT)

Actually the voice at the beginning of the Beastie Boys' ''Check Your Head'' belongs to Robin Zander of Cheap Trick; it's a sample from the band's live album ''At Budokan''. (Zander was introducing the song "Surrender," the first track on ''Heaven Tonight''.) {{unsigned|71.136.230.120|03:52, 2 January 2007}}

{{stuffclosedaccept}}

=== Make a hole with a fun fact ===
{{stufffact|The rhythm of Strong Bad's email song is taken from the They Might Be Giants song [http://tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/Ana_Ng Ana Ng] – the first time is the same as the rhythm part under the verse, and the second time is this and the vocal rhythm mixed together.}}
{{stuffverdict|17:55, 23 March 2006 (UTC)|13:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)|overwhelmingly accepted|17|1|different town}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== First Song on Our STUFF'd Album ===
{{stufffact|Strong Bad introduces his next song in the same manner that Cheap Trick frontman Robin Zander famously introduced "Surrender" on their landmark album Live at Budokan: "This is the first song off our new album!"}}
{{stuffverdict|21:45, 5 February 2006 (UTC)|01:52, 9 February 2006 (UTC)|unanimously declined|12|0|different town}}

{{stuffcloseddecline}}
=== No Soup for You!! ===
{{stufffact|The Cheat pouring hot soup on Homestar's eyes is a reference to the [http://www.hbo.com/oz/ HBO Series OZ], [http://www.tv.com/oz/u.s.-male/episode/61334/summary.html Episode 305; U.S. Male], where this is done to inmates Poet and Pierce. This episode aired on 7/28/1999.}}
'''NOTE:''' This item applies to both [[New Boots]] and [[different town]]. 
{{stuffverdict|00:34, 25 October 2005 (UTC)|04:32, 1 November 2005 (UTC)|overwhelmingly declined|17|2|New Boots}}

== That field... ==

Um, in the football fields page, it says that the football field is in this e-mail, but the field that Homestar calls it quits in is '''really''' not like the normal football field, what do you think? --[[User:Dinoshaur|Dinoshaur]] 15:38, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Real World References==
The OZ reference that you all keep deleting is legitimate. Please see [[New Boots]]. Follow the links, Google it, or watch the show.

:*I'm also familiar with this show. Why is it that this reference was dis-allowed? -[[User:B|B]] 06:52, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

::Sounds like coincidence to me. STUFF it if you think otherwise. {{User:Homestar Coder/sig}} 08:06, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

== Pink spiky hair ==
[[Image:Marzipanmohawk.PNG|thumb|90px|Pink spiky hair?]]
I have loaded the SWF into a decompiler in an attempt to verify the "secret" fun fact currently listed in the article (which needs to be moved to a real category). I can't find the pink spiky hair anywhere, just Marzipan's big yellow mane. Can anyone verify that the pink hair really exists and that we're not actually seeing fanstuff here? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 08:29, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
:Confirmed. It's there. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 05:47, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Try double clicking the mane and delete part of it. You'll see the mohawk.-stuntman021
:It doesn't work... :-(
::If you aren't in a Flash decompiler, of course not. If you are using one, there's not reason why it shouldn't. — {{User:Lapper/sig}} 20:59, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

== '''Bust of'' or '''busted'''? ==

I hear busted Bubo, not bust of bubo--{{User:Benol/sig}} 21:30, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

I distinctly hear the "uh" sound in "of". Strong Sad's mouth moves more in the way of "of" rather than "ed". --{{User:Salty/sig}} 21:38, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

The Bubo item in the "fast forward" for the DVD - should it be moved to the "fast forward" for the email itself? [[User:Qermaq|Qermaq]] 23:19, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

== Linnell version ==

I have an mp3 of the Linnell version that I bought off a seedy looking guy in the alley behind Kroger late at night that I'm willing to send to anybody who wants it for [[Best/Worst X bucks I ever spent|$5]]. (In reality, I sent a guy I met on a message board I found searching Google for the mp3 a Gmail invite for it, and I'm willing to send it to anybody who wants it for free.) {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 07:16, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

== Entering email song "Check your Email and Check your Email" ==

This is actualy an vesion of They Might be Giants song "Ana Ang" off of the Lincoln CD. No one ever realized it yet.
- Sirbob

:Really? How does the Ana Ang song go? {{User:Bluebry muffin/sig}} 02:09, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

::There's a brief clip at [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000003BIP/qid=1143092223/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/102-4724388-0028131?s=music&v=glance&n=5174 Amazon]. Listen in a bit, to the rhythm section parts. There's a definite similarity. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 05:39, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

:::They're similar only in that they are heavily syncopated. The rhythms are actually quite different if you compare them in detail (unless I'm comparing it with the wrong part... from that clip Qermaq posted, would the line "All alone at the '64 world's fair" be the rhythm you're talking about?) {{User:Phlip/sig}} 12:35, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

::::I don't hear any lyrical comparison at all, but listen to the rhythm section parts under the vocals "All alone at the '64 World's Fair/Eighty dolls yelling "Small girl after all"". The chunk-y rhythm they're playing is identical to the "check--your e--mail--and check--your--e--mail" pattern - the inspiration for the email song? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 16:33, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't know how familiar you are with musical notiation, and I'm too lazy to make some, so here's some timeline ASCII art:
<pre>
- * * * - * * * | - * - * - * - *
All a-lone at the six - ty - four World's fair
- * * * - * * * | - * - * - - * *
Eigh-ty dolls yel-ling "Small girl af - ter all."

* - * * - * - * | * - * - * - * -
Check your e - mail and check your e - mail.
* - * * - * - * | * - * - * - * -
Check your e - mail and check your e - mail.
(Check your e - mail and check your e - mail.)
</pre>
(stars indicate eighth-notes with notes on them, hyphens indicate eighth-note rests). The rhythms are rather different - in particular, the "'64 World's fair" bit is off the beat, whereas the second "check your email" bit is on the beat. Interspersing regular rhythms in a syncopated piece is reasonably common (it's a little thing called contrast), Ana Ng is hardly the only song to do it... {{User:Phlip/sig}} 16:57, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:No, no, no. Read my post. The word rhythm is very different. I'm comparing the rhythm of the "check your email" to the RHYTHM SECTION PART under the vocals in that spot. Not the lyrics. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:04, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Let me demonstrate. <pre>
- * * * - * * * | - * - * - * - * (lyrics rhythm)
All a-lone at the six - ty - four World's fair (lyrics)
* - * * - * - * | * - * - * - * - (rhythm section rhythm)
Check your e- mail and check your e- mail (let's all sing along!)
</pre>

See? I'm not saying this is necessarily notable enough to go over there on the page, but it's certainly a striking... striking thing. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 17:32, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, you're right! Wow, I didn't notice that... Ordinarily I'd chalk it up to coincidence, but there is already a heavy [[TMBG]] influence in this email... Hmm... I'm gonna take it to [[STUFF]]. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 17:47, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

== 3 (thousand) is clearly a smaller number than a million ==

Depending on just how narrow the box filled with peas is, and based on the diameter of a pea compared to the width of the box, it would only hold around 3000 to 8000 peas. (Props to [[User:Phlip|Phlip]] for most of the math on this one.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 05:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:'''SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING:''' The following post contains large amounts of mathematics and geometry, which may be dangerous to your health. Persons who are of the faint-of-heart are advised not to read further. Side-effects include confusion, nausea, and disorientation. On the blown-up full-screen version I have on my screen, a pea is 28 pixels in diameter, and the front of the box is 515 pixels wide and 484 pixels tall, or 18.4x17.3 pea-diameters (henceforth abbreviated as "pd"). I see the box as about cuboid, with a depth of about 18pd, It's dot com sees it as significantly shorter (because there's fewer planks and based on the width of the box's frame), about 6pd (hence the 3000-8000 range in It's dot com's post). An individual pea has a radius of ½pd (of course), so its volume is (4/3)πr³ = 0.52pd³. The size of the box if it's near-cube is 18.4x17.3x18 = 5667pd³. The [[Wikipedia:Sphere packing|packing efficiency of spheres]] is about 75% (meaning that when you fill a box with spheres, about 25% is empty space) so only about 4258pd³ actually contains peas. Divide that by 0.52pd³, getting a bit over 8000 peas. If you say the box is 6pd deep, then you get closer to 3000 peas. However, this is taking into account the rather large size of the peas in the box... given a much smaller pea, a more realistic 7mm-diameter pea (or ¼") has a volume of 180mm³, a million taking 180,000,000mm³, or 240,000,000mm³ after the packing efficiency. This is the volume of a cube 620mm along each side, or about 24 inches – quite a bit smaller than the KoT's box (so a box that you could fit the KoT in could easily hold many more than a million peas). NB: All of this is not counting the space taken up by the King of Town himself, but as Tom pointed out, the label on the box just says that at one time it held a million peas. It doesn't have to have that amount in there now that the KoT is in there. Also, this uses the 75% packing efficiency of spheres, which is for a regular [[Wikipedia:Close-packing|close-packing]] arrangement, for a more reasonable random arrangement you'd get for just pouring peas into a box, it'd be significantly less. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 06:14, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

:: :D {{User:FireBird/sig}} 11:49, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

==Why is it...==
This song was available for download but the songs from montage weren't? Do they just pick them at random? --[[User:Gerkuman|Gerkuman]] 18:25, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:Maybe it's coz this one was a collab with They Might Be Giants. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]]

==Song lyrics==

Are you sure Strong Bad doesn't say "his cool jacket" instead of "this cool jacket"? -[[User:Jimmy91|Jimmy91]] 18:40, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
:Very sorry for bringing up this post that was over a year old, but I was just going to ask the same question before I saw that it has already been asked, but not answered. I personally hear "his cool jacket" not "this cool jacket." (Even when I listen to the DVD version of it). {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 05:30, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
::Oh. I always thought that he said "The school jacket" I think "His cool jacket" makes more sence than "This cool jacket", but that is just my opinion. --[[User:Philip8o|Philip8o]]

==Place==

I don't know which side of the argument I agree with regarding if the proper grammer for stongbad's quote at the end is correct or not. I can see the argument that it is incorrect because the easter egg makes it seem like it refers to a location (such as a city/state) called place. Thus it should be "I gotta go to Place." While it can also be argued that it could be like "home" where the "to" is not needed. . .I though would tend to say that the grammer is incorrect. Either way though. . . - [[User:Ilko Skevüld's Teh C|Ilko Skevüld's Teh C]] 01:05, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
*I tend to think of it as forgetting or deliberately leaving off the "s" at the end of "place'''''s'''''," if, of course, he wasn't trying to be [[vague]], as he usually is when it comes to getting out of embarrassing or otherwise awkward situations.

==Glitch?==
I dunno if it's just me and my speakers, but there appears to be a cut betewn "he'd look like a idiot basketball" and "one, two, one two (part with hot homsar)".
Does anyone else notice this? -EMOBUBS 21:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
*It's "ABA basketball", not "idiot basketball" --[[Special:Contributions/75.110.102.223|75.110.102.223]] 03:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
*I noticed that, but I never did before. {{User:Mee/sig}} 01:37, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

== Let there be recessed lighting ==

[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=different_town&curid=1037&diff=597036&oldid=597027&rcid=555342 This] is actually half true. Based on the light on the wall and floor, and the shadow of the chair, the light is more or less directly above SB. SB is shaded as if the light is coming from the top right, and SS is shaded as if the light is coming from the top left. Kind of in-between them. From the top. If we forget about SB's shading and assume that it always looks as if the light is coming from the top right... then we should look at the shadows on the wall and the floor, which show that the light is right above SB. All in all, I don't think it's notable enough to be mentioned in the article.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 23:27, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== My? ==

I could've sworn I heard "stupid baby brother" not "my stupid baby brother." Can any one shed some light on this mystery? --{{User:Platinum789hi/sig}} 01:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
:Nah, it's definitely "my". It's overlapping bubs's line, but it's there. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 01:45, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I'll Check to make sure. --{{User:Platinum789hi/sig}} 22:13, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it's there. Although, it's kinda faint because of the overlapping sound. Thanks much! --{{User:Platinum789hi/sig}} 22:18, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

== DWAYNE! ==

Is it me or does Strong Bad look smaller than usual when standing next to Strong Sad? [[User:Geonightman|Geonightman]] 01:52, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

== Check your Email With Two E's ==

So it's been confirmed that the intro song is based on [[TMBW:Ana Ng|Ana Ng]]. Now here's something else to consider. Strong Bad has two rhythms going at once. If you listen closely, the first one is
Check your email and check your email
but the second one is
Check your email and check your e-email

And this actually makes perfect sense, compared to Ana Ng.

"Check your email and check your email" has nine syllables.
"All alone at the Sixty-Four World's Fair" has ten syllables, making the second "e" necessary to match the rhythm of the lyrics.

- all a lone - at the six - ty - four - world's - fair
- check your e - mail and check - your - e - e - mail

If you listen to the intro without trying to separate the two tracks, you'll hear three consecutive "e"s towards the end. The first and last "e" are from the second track ("all alone"), while the middle "e" is from the first track (the guitar riff).

Slow down the email, mash the audio up with Ana Ng, whatever you choose - you'll hear an extra "e". --{{User:Purple Wrench/sig}} 15:54, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

== Modestly hot my eye ==

Odd title, thanks to Google:

http://cl.ly/image/3M1p0C2c3c0m/image.png

The actual page doesn't have that title, as it just has the typical "Compy 386!!". Is this typical? I tried with another one (lunch special) and just got the name of the sbemail.

[[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]] 05:36, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

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Atarifanatic: /* Puppets */

== Guitarist ==

I hereby move to claim that the Guitarist's name is Stave.--{{User:Finest1/sig}} 15:03, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
: Any particular reason? If there's not, then this isn't something we should put on any pages. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:13, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
: Let's subject it to a poll, first--{{User:Finest1/sig}} 15:18, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:: No. Unless you can answer my previous question, this topic is closed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:19, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Very well. Have it your way.--{{User:Finest1/sig}} 15:22, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::::his name is Haddi-man. it says so in the videro, he's one of the directors
:::::idk what his name is, but it's pretty clear to me that it isn't Davey. get that out of the transcript. the only reason i'm not doing it is b/c idk what to replace it with. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 20:00, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::I think Davey is the kid with the french fry picture on his shirt. --{{User:Platinum789hi/sig}} 20:59, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== Audio quality ==
I think the whole song is higher quality, but 'I'm-a gonna throw a brick at your cellist' sounds higher quality than the rest. [[User:StrongAwesome74|StrongAwesome74]] 19:38, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== Puppets ==

Doesn't the title, "Davey Gets His Due" sound similar to Main Page 25's Toons quote, "The Puppets get their due"? [[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]][[User_Talk:Atarifanatic|fanatic]][[Image:atarifanatic_sig.png|Atari controller]] 21:07, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Crystal Fortress

2009-09-28T21:07:09Z

Atarifanatic: /**/Puppets

== Guitarist ==

I hereby move to claim that the Guitarist's name is Stave.--{{User:Finest1/sig}} 15:03, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
: Any particular reason? If there's not, then this isn't something we should put on any pages. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:13, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
: Let's subject it to a poll, first--{{User:Finest1/sig}} 15:18, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:: No. Unless you can answer my previous question, this topic is closed. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 15:19, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Very well. Have it your way.--{{User:Finest1/sig}} 15:22, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::::his name is Haddi-man. it says so in the videro, he's one of the directors
:::::idk what his name is, but it's pretty clear to me that it isn't Davey. get that out of the transcript. the only reason i'm not doing it is b/c idk what to replace it with. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 20:00, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::I think Davey is the kid with the french fry picture on his shirt. --{{User:Platinum789hi/sig}} 20:59, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== Audio quality ==
I think the whole song is higher quality, but 'I'm-a gonna throw a brick at your cellist' sounds higher quality than the rest. [[User:StrongAwesome74|StrongAwesome74]] 19:38, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== Puppets ==

Doesn't the title, "Davey Gets His Due" similar to Main Page 25's Toons quote, "The Puppets get their due"? [[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]][[User_Talk:Atarifanatic|fanatic]][[Image:atarifanatic_sig.png|Atari controller]] 21:07, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Middle School Character Variations

2009-09-26T23:22:31Z

Atarifanatic: /* Baby Strong Bad */

[[Image:Babies.png|thumb|Homestar Babies]]
[[Image:Sketchbook 2-22-07.PNG|thumb|Extremely unphotographic sketches]]
In the [[Strong Bad Email]] [[highschool]], [[Strong Bad]] reminisced on what the [[Characters#Main characters|main characters]] of [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] were like in their younger years. In '''middle school''', he claims that the gang was "a bunch of melon-headed [[babies]] with gigantic eyes and enormous imaginations." Although he states the characters depicted are in middle school, they appear to be infants in a nursery school. However, this may be due to his "extremely unphotographic (or doodle) memory". They appear to be a parody of [[Wikipedia:Jim Henson's Muppet Babies|Jim Henson's Muppet Babies]].

==Baby Coach Z==
'''Baby Coach Z''' is how [[Coach Z]] appeared in "middle school". Here, Coach Z and Strong Bad are shown to be around the same age, contradicting [[stand-up]], which showed Coach Z to be an adult while Strong Bad was a kid. He tosses a [[cardboard box]] labeled "NOT A BALL!" (despite the fact that there is a football right next to him) up and down as he pretends to be "craptain of the foortball torm". He wears green footie pajamas, supporting the notion that the modern-day Coach Z wears a green body suit.

==Baby Strong Bad==
'''Baby Strong Bad''' is how Strong Bad appeared in "middle school". He is wearing a blue hat, a [[diaper]], and his left eye has a star-shaped reflection, which was also seen in [[Main Page 11]] and the [[Strong Bad 404 Error Page|Old 404 error page]]. He pretends to be playing better video games, and complains that "that freakin' [[duck]] swallowed both [his] pixels". Judging by the "[[Atari Dragon|freakin' duck]]", he is probably playing ''[[Wikipedia:Adventure (Atari 2600)|Adventure]]'', though the sound effects are from [[Secret Collect]], and he is holding an [[Nintendo|NES]] controller.

==The Diapersmith==
'''The Diapersmith''' is the title for [[The Poopsmith]] as he appeared in "middle school".
The Poopsmith's shovel appears to have been predated by a baby rattle that is either similarly besmirched with [[whatsit]], or simply decorated in a pattern that suggests it. The Diapersmith's orange shoulder-length gloves are lighter and suprisingly clean. Behind him is a large pile of [[diapers]]. Baby Strong Sad pretends he is not sitting next to him. Also, he blows a raspberry—one of the few times that he's seen to make a noise with his mouth.

==Baby Strong Sad==
'''Baby Strong Sad''' is how [[Strong Sad]] appeared in "middle school". He has a pink bow on his head, long eylashes, and a frilly divide between his torso and legs that make him look like a girl.
He does not like the smell of The Diapersmith's pile of diapers, and he pretends that he is not sitting next to him. He apparently does not have his belly button yet, which Strong Bad implied to have given him using [[Strong Bad's Drill|a drill]] in [[origins]].

==Baby Pom Pom==
'''Baby Pom Pom''' is how [[Pom Pom]] appeared in "middle school". He only briefly appeared as he bounces across the screen. His body resembles a [[Wikipedia:Bumble Ball|Bumble Ball]], and he has no distinguishable head.

==Homestar Runner==
Although [[Homestar Runner]] does not make an appearance as an infant, he does appear as an adult nanny character who tells the children to "skedaddle" while waving a broom at them. He has red and white striped pants and is only seen from the waist down. Unlike the other middle school characters, his voice is the same as the modern-day counterpart. He appears to be a reference to and hybrid of both Nanny from Muppet Babies and the Mammy-Two-Shoes character from [[Wikipedia:Tom and Jerry (MGM)|Tom and Jerry]]. The costume and Southern colloquialisms are suggestive of the "Mammy" character, who often wallops the cat with a broom when he misbehaves. "Nanny", likewise, was only shown from the waist down.

==Appearances==
*'''Debut:''' Email [[highschool]]
*[[Sketchbook 2007#SK-2007-02-22|Sketchbook]]

==See Also==
*[[Teenage Variation]]
*[[Free Petry Dish, USA Variation]]

[[Category:Character Variations]]

Somber Vacation

2009-09-17T19:40:48Z

Atarifanatic: /* Explanations */

{{toonnav|Shorts|somber|Play Date|The Baloneyman}}
[[Image:SomberVacation.png|thumb|"Now, let's begin."]]

Strong Sad goes to the beach?

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{film|Homestar Runner}}, {{film|Bubs}}, {{film|Strong Bad}}, {{film|Strong Sad}}

'''Places:''' [[Basement Of The Brothers Strong]], [[Depressio Beach]]

'''Date:''' Monday, June 16, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 2:11

'''Page Title:''' Greetings From Depressio Beach!

==Transcript==
''{Open with a panning shot of Strong Bad, Bubs and Homestar Runner sitting on the couch, making unintelligible sounds like the murmur of conversation.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{off camera}'' Ahem!

''{The lights turn off. Cut to a close-up of Strong Sad's head.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Thank you all for coming to my slide show pre-sentation!

''{Cut to close-up of Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Slide show?! You said you found a dead body!

''{Cut to Bubs}''

'''BUBS:''' You told me there'd be's casseroles!

''{Cut to Homestar}''

'''HOMESTAR RUNNER:''' You're welcome.

''{Cut back to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Summertime is generally a happy time, making it my least favorite time of year. So in order to make myself appropriately miserable, I decided to embrace all the hoopla and go to the beach.

''{Cut to Strong Bad}''

'''STRONG BAD:''' Ooh, that's where you were. We all figured you were inside that barrel again. Moistening yourself, or whatever.

''{Cut back to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{angrily}'' It's called "The Dampening" and it helps me focus! ''{Normal voice}'' Now, let's begin.

''{Cut to Strong Sad in silhouette with a [[Projections|projection screen]] in the background. A slide comes down with the title written in the sand}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' "My Somber Vacation".

''{The slides fill the screen. First slide is Strong Sad standing on the beach.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Since I don't have a lot of beach apparel, The King of Town's blacksmith was kind enough to let me borrow ''{New slide: Strong Sad is posing in [[The Blacksmith]]'s black [[Wikipedia:Welding helmet|welding mask]] and apron. The apron has burn marks at the lower right corner and under the left arm.}'' this revealing little number. Even though I couldn't see anything with it on, I think it's safe to assume this ''really'' turned some heads.

''{New slide: a sand sculpture of a Strong Sad headstone and grave with a single rose on top.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Next, I went ahead and buried myself alive in the sand. ''{Close up of the headstone with a 3rd place ribbon and Strong Sad making a thumbs-up sign out of the sand.}'' I won third place in a sand sculpture competition.

''{Close up of sea shells}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Instead of collecting seashells, I stalked the sandy shores looking for ''{Slide of a broken styrofoam cooler with green stains, with a shell and beer bottle also visible}'' algae-covered chunks of styrofoam coolers. ''{Slide of several chunks with faces drawn on them and pipe cleaner limbs}'' I added googly eyes and some pipe cleaner and then played beach volleyball with them. ''{Slide of Strong Sad with a yellow volleyball embedded in his face}'' They won handily.

''{Strong Sad is smiling and holding a styrofoam cup with drink umbrellas and sand around the rim.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Here I am enjoying my favorite tropical beverage: a scalding hot cup of black coffee with beach sand on the rim. The bartender kept calling it a "Sucks On The Beach".

''{Strong Sad is standing alone on the beach, silhouetted against the moon}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' My last night there, I went for a long midnight walk on the beach. It would've been nice and lonely, if I didn't keep tripping over teenage and European couples making out. But, of course, I forgot to put on any moonscreen—

''{Cut back to the basement as the lights come on. Strong Sad is now completely pink except for an area on his chest that looks like a bikini top.}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' — so I got burned to a crisp!

''{Cut to a panning shot of the couch, where Strong Bad, Bubs, and Homestar are laughing.}''

'''BUBS:''' ''{Close-up}'' Well, heeb my jeebies!

''{Cut back to Strong Sad}''

'''STRONG SAD:''' Shut up! It's a skin condition! ''{He pats his belly}'' This is just how I tan. I can't help it!

'''STRONG BAD:''' ''{off camera}'' Ha ha ha-ha ha! ''{close-up of Strong Bad}'' Lookin' good, Miss July!

''{A [[postcard]] of moonburnt and smiling Strong Sad lying on the beach appears on the screen, reading "Depressio Beach" "Wish U Were Here! XOXO"}''

==Easter Eggs==
[[Image:TheDampening.png|thumb|non disturbare!]]
*Click on XOXO on the postcard at the end.
:''{In the Strongs' basement, lights down. Close up on a wooden barrel against the wall. A sign is taped to the barrel, written in a calligraphic style "the Dampening in progress! non disturbare!"}''
:'''STRONG SAD:''' ''{singing}'' Sweetness. Sweetness. I was only joking when I said.

==Fun Facts==

===Explanations===
*"Sucks On The Beach" is a play on the real [[alcohol|cocktail]] [[Wikipedia:Sex on the beach (cocktail)|Sex on the Beach]].
*[[Wikipedia:Heebie Jeebies|Heebie Jeebies]] is an old slang term for feeling anxious or nervous.
*"Non disturbare" means "do not disturb" in Italian.
*The page title is 'greetings from depressio beach" depressio@homestarrunner.com is supposed to be strongsad's e-mail adress

===Remarks===
*When the toon was first released, the Easter egg was unfinished. There was no audio and no way to reach it without a browser addon or external Flash viewer to navigate beyond the "end" of the toon.
*When the toon was first released, the slides were in focus as they came onto the screen. The effect that makes them appear out of focus at first was added later.
*The Cheat, who is not seen in this cartoon, is heard laughing with the others.


===Goofs===
*Bubs's face overlaps part of his teeth.

*Strong Sad's mouth closes too early on the letters "ach" in the word "beach".

===Inside References===
*Bubs says [[be's]].
*Strong Sad first used Depressio to refer to himself in [[depressio]].
*Strong Sad makes [[Death#Strong Sad|his own grave]].
*Strong Sad makes some [[googly-eyed objects]].
*The style for this toon (a slideshow presented by Strong Sad) was originally presented as an unused idea in [[From the Vault]].
*Strong Sad has previously stated that he disliked the beach in the [[Strong Sad's Lament]] entry "Dr. Scholls?".
*There are some more examples of [[Strong Bad smiling|Strong Bad]] and [[Strong Sad smiling]].
*The seashells were previously seen in [[what I want]].
*Strong Sad keeps tripping over couples [[Making Out|making out]].
*Strong Sad previously sang from inside a locked container of water in [[Homestar Presents: Presents]] with the same echoic effect

===Real-World References===
*In the Easter egg, Strong Sad is singing lyrics from the song "[[Wikipedia:Bigmouth Strikes Again|Bigmouth Strikes Again]]" by [[Wikipedia:The Smiths|The Smiths]].

==External Links==
*[[HR:somber.html|watch "Somber Vacation"]]
*[[HR:somber.swf|view the Flash file for "Somber Vacation"]]
*[[Forum:14350|forum thread re: "Somber Vacation"]]

[[Category:Shorts]]

dictionary

2009-09-01T17:35:59Z

Atarifanatic:

{{sbenav|204}}
[[File:dictionary.png|thumb|Fo' My Own Words!]]
Strong Bad talks about his very own dictionary.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, [[Shut Up, Lady|Shut Up Lady]], {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}, [[Tire]] (Easter egg)

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]], [[The Field]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)|Marhsmallow's Last Stand]], [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[The Stage]], [[Coach Z's Locker Room]], [[Basement of The Brothers Strong]], [[Marzipan's House]], [[The Movie Theater]] (Easter egg), [[Strong Badia]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Compé}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, September 1, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 3:48

'''Page Title:''' Compy Compé

==Transcript==
{{transcriptinprogress|wbwolf}}

==Easter Eggs==
* At the end, click "Broodroscotch" to see some broodroscoth fall on the word. Click it again to see it disappear.
* At the end, click "raspberry sauce" to see a scene of Homsar in Strong Badia.
:'''HOMSAR:''' ''{holding the dictionary; his hat floats off while he speaks}'' Krrrrronk there, Rubbermaid, can you redirect me to the nearest Puke-valanche?
:''{The Tire bounces away.}''
*Click Hwimself to see Homestar at the movie theater.

==Fun Facts==

===Inside References===
*Strong Bad's desktop appears to advertise a sequel to [[Where's an Egg?]]
*One of the dictionaries The Cheat is seen standing on is labeled "Thick n' Nasty DICTIONARY", a reference to the Thick n' Nasty burger seen in [[Blubb-O's Commercial]].
*This is another instance of [[Shut Up, Lady]].
*The music that plays in the Easter egg featuring The Movie Theater is from [[city (comma) state]].
*The entire email is about [[portmanteaus]].
*Count Longardeaux first appeared in [[record book]].
*[[Trivia Time]] appears again in Homestar's kitchen.
*Coach Z calls Strong Bad "[["man" pronounced as "m'n"|Strong B'd]]".
*The colored lines background previously appeared in [[Coach Z's 110%]]
*The email mentions "[[pee|pee-pee]]" and [[paunch]].

===Real-World References===
*[[Wikipedia:Glory Days (song)|Glory Days]] is a song written and performed by [[Wikipedia:Bruce Sprinsteen|Bruce Springsteen]].

==External Links==
{{sbemailextlinks|204|15762}}

dictionary

2009-09-01T17:22:47Z

Atarifanatic:

dictionary

2009-09-01T17:09:27Z

Atarifanatic:

Strong Bad Email

2009-09-01T17:07:44Z

Atarifanatic: /* Compé Era */

<div class="thumb tright"><div class="thumbinner" style="width:202px;"><div class="hovul" style="font-size:smaller;border-bottom:1px #CCC solid;margin-bottom:4px;padding-bottom:4px">[[hr:sbemail.html|Strong Bad Email menu]]</div>[[File:Compé email.png|200px|Strong Bad checks his email.]]<div style="padding-top:4px">Strong Bad checks his email.</div></div></div>
'''Strong Bad Email''', frequently shortened to '''sbemail''', was originally a small feature in which [[Strong Bad]] would answer a fan-sent email and commonly mock the spelling and grammar of those who wrote to him. The animations were initially brief, but gradually the responses grew to establish numerous [[inside jokes]], and [[running gags]] and catchphrases, as well as [[Strong Bad Email Spin-offs|spin-offs]], like [[20X6]], [[Teen Girl Squad]], [[Hremails]], [[Trogdor]], and even the main character [[Homsar]]. A typical Strong Bad Email includes numerous [[Easter egg]]s and other hidden material, often found at the ending screen. Many Strong Bad Emails, such as [[japanese cartoon]], [[video games]], and [[theme song]], are satirical views of particular aspects of popular culture.

Introduced in 2001, Strong Bad Email has historically been the most frequently updated feature of [[homestarrunner.com]], but was put on hiatus from September 2008 to June 2009. [[The Brothers Chaps]] stated in interviews that they wanted to focus on other characters and vary their output.[http://mag.awn.com/index.php?ltype=pageone&category2=&article_no=3983&page=1] Email 200 just happened to be a round number at which to take a break.[http://omgnintendo.blogfaction.com/article/108144/one-year-of-wiiware-matt-and-mike-chapman-on-strong-bads-cool-game-for-attractive-people/]
__TOC__
{{clear}}

==Strong Bad Emails==

===[[Compé]] Era ===
''(August 2009 — present)''
<blockquote class="compe email" style="padding-left:3px;padding-right:10px;padding-top:5px;padding-bottom:8px;background:#999;width:92%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal;border:#ddd;border-bottom:#ccc">
<table class="emaillinks" style="height:150px;color:#fff;background:#000 url(/images/e/e3/compeBackCatalog.png) no-repeat;background-position:top left;width:100%;">
<autocolumn cols="3" width="33%">
203. [[independent]] 
204. [[dictionary]] new! 
</autocolumn>
</table>
<div style="margin-top:-142px;border:none;padding:none;width:198px;height:137px;background:url(/images/4/46/SB-overlay.png) no-repeat bottom right; float:right;"> </div>
</blockquote>
----

===[[Corpy NT6]] Transition===
''(July 2009)''
<blockquote class="corpy email" style="width:90%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal;border:#ddd;border-bottom:#ccc">
<table class="emaillinks" style="color:#fff;background:none;width:100%">
<div id=subject>Corpy Remote Work Email - NO PERSONAL EMAILS!</div>
<autocolumn cols="3" width="33%">
202. [[imaginary]] 
<div style="border:none;background:#08089c"></div>
</autocolumn>
</table>
</blockquote>
----

===[[Lappy 486]] Era===
''(November 2004 — June 2009)''
<blockquote class="lappy email" style="width:90%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal">
<div>subject: sb_email menu</div>
<table class="emaillinks" style="color:#fff;background:none;width:100%">
<autocolumn cols="3" width="33%">
201. [[hremail3184]] 
200. [[email thunder]] 
199. [[being mean]] 
198. [[magic trick]] 
197. [[your edge]] 
196. [[hiding]] 
195. [[love poems]] 
194. [[specially marked]] 
193. [[rated]] 
192. [[shapeshifter]] 
191. [[buried]] 
190. [[licensed]] 
189. [[pet show]] 
188. [[fan club]] 
187. [[winter pool]] 
186. [[environment]] 
185. [[nightlife]] 
184. [[diorama]] 
183. [[yes, wrestling]] 
182. [[business trip]] 
181. [[web comics]] 
180. [[slumber party]] 
179. [[pizza joint]] 
178. [[bike thief]] 
177. [[original]] 
176. [[hygiene]] 
175. [[concert]] 
174. [[mini-golf]] 
173. [[the paper]] 
172. [[more armies]] 
171. [[underlings]] 
170. [[rough copy]] 
169. [[from work]] 
168. [[your funeral]] 
167. [[the movies]] 
166. [[unnatural]] 
165. [[strong badathlon]] 
164. [[looking old]] 
163. [[what I want]] 
162. [[the chair]] 
161. [[4 branches]] 
160. [[coloring]] 
159. [[retirement]] 
158. [[cliffhangers]] 
157. [[trading cards]] 
156. [[road trip]] 
155. [[theme song]] 
154. [[keep cool]] 
153. [[redesign]] 
152. [[isp]] 
151. [[senior prom]] 
150. [[alternate universe]] 
149. [[candy product]] 
148. [[disconnected]] 
147. [[lady fan]] 
146. [[pop-up]] 
145. [[myths & legends]] 
144. [[narrator]] 
143. [[technology]] 
142. [[secret identity]] 
141. [[death metal]] 
140. [[highschool]] 
139. [[portrait]] 
138. [[space program]] 
137. [[bedtime story]] 
136. [[geddup noise]] 
135. [[lady...ing]] 
134. [[record book]] 
133. [[bottom 10]] 
132. [[modeling]] 
131. [[boring (really)]] 
130. [[do over]] 
129. [[garage sale]] 
128. [[rampage]] 
127. [[long pants]] 
126. [[best thing]] 
125. [[rock opera]] 
124. [[secret recipes]] 
123. [[origins]] 
122. [[dreamail]] 
121. [[part-time job]] 
120. [[radio]] 
119. [[animal]] 
</autocolumn>
</table>
</blockquote>
----

===[[Compy 386]] Era===
''(September 2002 — November 2004)''
<blockquote class="compy email" style="width:90%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal">Volume in drive C: has no label 
Directory of C:\sbemail\updated somedays 
<table class="emaillinks" style="color:#fff;background:none;width:100%">
<autocolumn cols="3" width="33%">
118. [[virus]] 
117. [[montage]] 
116. [[extra plug]] 
115. [[time capsule]] 
114. [[the facts]] 
113. [[pizzaz]] 
112. [[old comics]] 
111. [[other days]] 
110. [[for kids]] 
109. [[crying]] 
108. [[pom pom]] 
107. [[cheatday]] 
106. [[dangeresque 3]] 
105. [[replacement]] 
104. [[theme park]] 
103. [[haircut]] 
102. [[lunch special]] 
101. [[car]] 
100. [[flashback]] 
99. [[different town]] 
98. [[stupid stuff]] 
97. [[monument]] 
96. [[lackey]] 
95. [[the bet]] 
94. [[video games]] 
93. [[army]] 
92. [[kind of cool]] 
91. [[caffeine]] 
90. [[colonization]] 
89. [[local news]] 
88. [[couch patch]] 
87. [[mile]] 
86. [[no loafing]] 
85. [[2 years]] 
84. [[kids' book]] 
83. [[labor day]] 
82. [[impression]] 
81. [[date]] 
80. [[stunt double]] 
79. [[the process]] 
78. [[anything]] 
77. [[suntan]] 
76. [[sibbie]] 
75. [[funny]] 
74. [[privileges]] 
73. [[mascot]] 
72. [[crazy cartoon]] 
71. [[2 emails]] 
70. [[big white face]] 
69. [[personal favorites]] 
68. [[caper]] 
67. [[autobiography]] 
66. [[the show]] 
65. [[unused emails]] 
64. [[english paper]] 
63. [[fingers]] 
62. [[interview]] 
61. [[monster truck]] 
60. [[huttah!]] 
59. [[marzipan]] 
58. [[dragon]] 
57. [[japanese cartoon]] 
56. [[current status]] 
55. [[cheat talk]] 
54. [[morning routine]] 
53. [[comic]] 
52. [[island]] 
51. [[website]] 
50. [[50 emails]] 
49. [[theme party]] 
48. [[ghosts]] 
47. [[new hands]] 
46. [[your friends]] 
45. [[techno]] 
44. [[lures & jigs]] 
43. [[little questions]] 
42. [[action figure]] 
41. [[invisibility]] 
</autocolumn>
</table>
</blockquote>
----

===[[Tandy 400]] Era===
''(August 2001 — September 2002)''
<blockquote class="tandy email" style="width:90%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal"><div style="border:none;background:none;text-align:center;padding-left:17%"> FILENAME  - updated mondays</div>
<table class="emailgreenlinks" style="color:#0c0;background:none;width:100%">
<autocolumn cols="3" width="33%">
40. [[vacation]] 
39. [[property of ones]] 
38. [[helium]] 
37. [[dullard]] 
36. [[guitar]] 
35. [[sisters]] 
34. [[weird dream]] 
33. [[gimmicks]] 
32. [[flag day]] 
31. [[sugarbob]] 
30. [[12:00]] 
29. [[superhero name]] 
28. [[1 step ahead]] 
27. [[3 Wishes]] 
26. [[CGNU]] 
25. [[super powers]] 
24. [[the bird]] 
23. [[little animal]] 
22. [[sb_email 22]] 
21. [[cartoon]] 
20. [[spring cleaning]] 
19. [[tape-leg]] 
18. [[stand-up]] 
17. [[studying]] 
16. [[band names]] 
15. [[the basics]] 
14. [[duck pond]] 
13. [[i she be]] 
12. [[credit card]] 
11. [[i rule]] 
10. [[trevor the vampire]] 
9. [[i love you]] 
8. [[brianrietta]] 
7. [[halloweener]] 
6. [[depressio]] 
5. [[making out]] 
4. [[homestar hair]] 
3. [[butt IQ]] 
2. [[homsar]] 
1. [[some kinda robot]]
</autocolumn>
</table>
</blockquote>

==DVD Releases==

*Emails 1-200 have been released on the [[strongbad_email.exe]] 6-disc DVD series. There is also a best of selection, [[SBEmails' 50 Greatest Hits DVD]].

===DVD Emails===

The following emails only appear on the DVD set:

*[[Greeting Cards]] (Bonus Email #1)
*[[E-mail Birds]] (Bonus Email #2)
*[[Videro Games]] (Bonus Email #3)
*[[Family Resemblence]] (Bonus Email #4)
*[[Real-Live E-Mails]] (Bonus [[Puppet Stuff]] Email)
*[[Accent]] (Bonus Email #5)
*[[Comic Book Movie]] (Bonus Email #6)

==Podstar Runner Releases==
Beginning January 30, 2006, Strong Bad emails were released under a feature called [[Podstar Runner]]. They have featured popular [[Toons]], [[Teen Girl Squad|Teen Girl Squads]], and Strong Bad Emails in .m4v format. They are designed to be viewed on a Fifth Generation Apple [[Wikipedia:iPod|iPod]], but are workable on a variety of other portable media players. These emails are featured or have been featured through this service (in order of release, top left being the earliest, bottom right being the latest):

<table width="100%">
<autocolumn cols="4" width="20%">
*[[techno]]
*[[dragon]]
*[[japanese cartoon]]
*[[kids' book]]
*[[crying]]
*[[bottom 10]]
*[[caffeine]]
*[[virus]]
*[[guitar]]
*[[video games]]
*[[different town]]
*[[montage]]
*[[personal favorites]]
*[[sisters]]
*[[death metal]]
*[[theme park]]
*[[crazy cartoon]]
*[[army]]
*[[flag day]]
*[[trevor the vampire]]
*[[stunt double]]
*[[best thing]]
*[[caper]]
*[[mascot]]
*[[geddup noise]]
*[[isp]]
*[[alternate universe]]
*[[garage sale]]
*[[monster truck]]
*[[action figure]]
*[[radio]]
*[[spring cleaning]]
*[[replacement]]
*[[technology]]
*[[haircut]]
*[[animal]]
*[[highschool]]
*[[theme song]]
*[[mile]]
*[[looking old]]
*[[strong badathlon]]
*[[unnatural]]
*[[the movies]]
*[[your funeral]]
*[[from work]]
*[[rough copy]]
*[[underlings]]
*[[more armies]]
*[[the paper]]
*[[mini-golf]]
*[[concert]]
*[[hygiene]]
*[[original]]
*[[bike thief]]
*[[pizza joint]]
*[[slumber party]]
*[[web comics]]
*[[business trip]]
*[[yes, wrestling]]
*[[diorama]]
*[[nightlife]]
*[[environment]]
*[[winter pool]]
*[[fan club]]
*[[pet show]]
*[[licensed]]
*[[buried]]
*[[shapeshifter]]
*[[rated]]
*[[specially marked]]
*[[love poems]]
*[[hiding]]
*[[your edge]]
*[[magic trick]]
*[[being mean]]
*[[email thunder]]
</autocolumn>
</table>

==Not Quite Strong Bad Emails==

The following shorts were originally associated in one way or another with the Strong Bad Emails. They are numbered by halves to show where they appeared chronologically in the list above. Numbers 99½B, 118½, 158½ and 199½B are not linked to from anywhere on the site.
*202½. [[Compy Catalog]] (Strong Bad buys a new computer for checking emails.)
*200½B. [[April Fool 09]] (Strong Bad "sbemailiarizes" the Intro to homestarrunner.com.)
*200½A. [[Sbemailiarized!]] (Strong Bad explains how old toons can be recycled into Strong Bad Emails.)
*199½B. [[Page Load Error]] (Secret URL address for anyone who wanted a peek at Email 200 before it was released.)
*199½A. [[Place ya bets!]] (Its HTML file is "sbemail199andahalf". In it, [[The Deleteheads]] try to predict what will be in Strong Bad Email #200.)
*193½B. [[The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw]] (The reading of the story takes place after what appears to be a Strong Bad Email.) 
*193½A. [[SBCG4AP Advertisement]] (This email is an advertisement for a game that was in the making and never actually appeared on the Strong Bad Email page)
*191½. [[Rotten Eggs]] (A message made by the splattered rotten Easter egg reads, "Sbemail Next Week.")
*170½. [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]] (A deleted scene from [[from work|sbemail 169]])
*158½. [[Lappynapped!]] (Messages on Strong Bad's answering machine, as the Lappy is missing.)
*152½. [[Weclome Back]] (Strong Bad tries to show an email he checked over summer vacation (in midair, no less), but hits "stop" instead of "record" on the video camera.)
*149½. [[Sbemail 150?!?]] ([[Strong Sad]] tries to get Strong Bad to do his 150th email.) 
*136½. [[Sick Day]] (A failed attempt at an email due to sickness striking the entire cast.) 
*127½. [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] ("The Email Show" is one of the pay-per-view features.)
*118½. [[Broken Compy Menu|Strong Bad Email?]] (Broken Compy Menu.) 
*99½B. [[Not the 100th Email!!!]] (Secret URL address for anyone who wanted a peek at Email 100 before it was released.)
*99½A. [[Puppet Time]] (A message was taped onto Puppet Compy's screen that read "Probably at a barbecue, from SB")
*84½. [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 4]] (A message was taped onto the Compy on the Strong Bad Email menu that read "made a new teen girl squad")
*68½B. [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] (A message was taped onto the Compy in the email menu that read "Looking at a thing in a bag" when the cartoon was released.)
*68½A. [[King of Town Email]] ([[The King of Town]] tries to answer an email on his recently bought (but broken) Tandy 400.)
*66½. [[Arcade Game]] (Homestar Runner reads Strong Bad's note he left on the Compy 386.)
*59½. [[Superbowl Dealie]] ([[The Paper]] reads "Due to the big game, the Strong Bad Email will be late this week.")
*55½. [[Decemberween_Email_Menu|Too Busy to Check E-mails]] (Typed on the Compy is "No emails on the holidays.")
*36½. [[TV Time Toons Menu]] (Placing the mouse over Strong Bad Email will bring up a short, soundless email from Stu. See [[Wireless Bizness]].)

==Strong Bad Email Menus==

*1–32 [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemail_first.html Tandy 400 menu]
*33–34 [[Broken Tandy Menu]]
*35–40 [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemail_youguysokay.html Slightly damaged Tandy menu]
*41 [[HR:sbemail(vacation).swf|Vacation menu]]
*42–118 [[HR:sbemail.swf|Compy 386 menu]]
**Between 55 and 56 [[Decemberween Email Menu]]
**Between 118 and 119 [[Broken Compy Menu]]
*119–201 [[HR:sbemail_lappy.swf|Lappy 486 menu]]
*202 [[HR:sbemail_corpy.swf|Corpy NT6 menu]]
*203-Current [[HR:sbemail.html|Compé menu]]

==Milestones==
Whenever Strong Bad reaches an email milestone, such as 100 or 200, the email will be special or at least some note will be taken. Thus far, five emails have been considered milestones.

*50. [[50 emails]] — Strong Bad checks 50 emails (or attempts to) in honor of it being his 50th email check.
*100. [[flashback]] — The email is done in widescreen. [[Marzipan]], [[Senor Cardgage]], [[Old Timey Strong Bad]], and [[Limozeen]] congratulate him on his 100th email. Upon the Compy indicating that he has checked 100 emails with a special screen, Strong Bad says "email" 100 times. [[Homestar]] says "Happy 100th birthday, Strong Bad".
*125. [[rock opera]] — features scenes and at least one word from all of Strong Bad's emails.
*150. [[alternate universe]] — Strong Bad goes into many alternate universes featuring alternate versions of himself, which at the end accompany him in a supergroup ballad. Called the "sesquicentennemail".
*200. [[email thunder]] — The email song is a grand fanfare written by [[They Might Be Giants]] and sung by [[The Poopsmith]]. The email also ends with a screen listing the first 200 sbemails.

Frequently, a "teaser" toon is released a week before a milestone email in order to play off the anticipation for the upcoming milestone. The teaser toons so far have been [[Not the 100th Email!!!]] (teasing viewers hoping to view email 100 before it was released); [[Sbemail 150?!?]] (in which Strong Sad tries to convince Strong Bad to check email 150 and writes a proposed storyboard for it); [[Place ya bets!]] (in which [[the Deleteheads]] speculate on what will happen in email 200); and [[Page Load Error]] (in which the Deleteheads camp out at the sbemail200.html URL).

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*Some time during mid-2003, "updated mondays" on the main Strong Bad Email Menu changed to "updated somedays." Nothing like this is even noted in Lappy, Corpy or Compé-era emails.
*On the Compy 386 menus, Strong Bad types "<tt>dir /p</tt>", a [[Wikipedia:DOS|DOS]] command used to list all the files in a directory, and to pause between each screen's worth of files.
*Not including Not Quite Strong Bad Emails, Strong Bad has checked 232 emails as of [[independent]].
*As of [[being mean]], it would take 9 hours, 42 minutes, and 34 seconds  to watch every Strong Bad email, including the DVD exclusives but excluding clickable Easter eggs. Including clickable Easter eggs, it would take 10 hours, 35 minutes, and 37 seconds. 
*Email #22, "[[sb_email 22]]", was actually made between emails 40 and 41. It was originally skipped and later made and released under the title 'the lost email' right before Strong Bad replaced his computer with the Compy 386.
*As of [[the movies]], Strong Bad Emails make up about 60% of the toons on the site.
*Back in the Tandy 400 era (at least until July 2002), emailing Strong Bad would result in this automated response:
<blockquote>Thanks for your freakin email. I hope it's not stupid. 
Once I finish these swiss cake rolls I'll read it and if it's awesome enough, 
I'll answer it on the site. 
But if your email is terrible, then it gets R.E.D. alright. 
The Cheat Reads it, Strong Mad Eats it, and I Deletes it. 
[[HR:processing.html|Click Here]] to see us in action! 
Check back every Monday to see if your email has what it takes. 

Watch me while I'm awesome, 
Strong Bad</blockquote>

The link in the automated response leads to the [[Email Processing Room]].
*After [[Random Toon|random.bat]] was implemented, the email list comes from the [[Secret_Pages_XML_Source#Random_Toon_XML_File|rando.xml]] file. Before this, it was included in the Flash file.
*Occasionally, there is a [[Acknowledged Update Delays|lengthy gap]] between email updates. This is sometimes recognized at the start of the next email, as in [[army]], [[geddup noise]], [[redesign]], and [[hremail3184]].
*[[butt IQ]], [[CGNU]], [[3 Wishes]], and [[what I want]] are the only emails with capital letters in their titles.
*Typing sbemail.swf in the address bar will take you to the Flash file for the [[Compy 386]] era.

===Remarks===
*At [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006|Flashforward 2006]], [[The Brothers Chaps]] gave a list of [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006#Pre-animation Process - 4:05 p.m.|five things not to email Strong Bad about]]. Additional information about which emails are selected were given in a later [[Late Nite JengaJam Interview - 4 Oct 2007#Email|radio interview]].
*During most emails, you see the back of Strong Bad's head when he sits in front of the computer, which is why he often starts a new line before the text reaches the right side of the computer's screen. However, on the Strong Bad Email menu, you don't see his head at all. This is probably so the viewers can use the bottom scroll button without anything in the way.
*During [[Lappynapped!]], [[retirement|retirement A]], [[retirement|retirement B]] after when the Lappy was kidnapped, and after [[hremail3184]] when the Lappy is destroyed, it was still used for the Strong Bad Email menu.
**If you clicked the random.bat button on the Lappy after [[hremail3184]] was released, Strong Bad would still say the things during the random email selection even though he wasn't still there.
*The Strong Bad Email menu of the Corpy NT6 lacked a random button; however, Strong Bad sung his lines for selecting a random email and a random email will be selected by using a Flash seekbar.
**The Compé menu lacked a random button from its introduction until August 31, 2009, when a new scroll button song was also released.
*The Compé Email Menu zooms in before Strong Bad finishes double-clicking it.
*The Compé Email Menu's "go rando!" button is clickable, even when zooming in.

==External Links==

*[[HR:sbemail.html|Strong Bad Email menu]]
*[[HR:sbemail_compe.swf|view the Flash file for Strong Bad Email Menu]]
*{{pl|l=mailto:strongbad@homestarrunner.com Email Strong Bad}}

==See Also==

*[[Homestar Runner Email]]

{{StrongBadEmailInfo}}
{{H*RNav}}
{{recenttoons}}

<noinclude>
[[Category:Strong Bad Email]]
[[Category:Lists]]
[[Category:Computer Files]]
[[Category:H*R Navigation]]
</noinclude>
{{subtitlesLinks|sbemail}}

dictionary

2009-09-01T17:02:57Z

Atarifanatic:

{{sbenav|204}}
Strong Bad talks about his very own dictionary.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Bathroom of the Brothers Strong]], [[The Field]], [[Marshmallow's Last Stand (place)]], [[The Movie Theater]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Compé}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, September 1, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 3:48

'''Page Title:''' Compy Compé

==External Links==

http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail204.html

http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail204.swf

dictionary

2009-09-01T17:00:11Z

Atarifanatic:

{{sbenav|204}}
Strong Bad talks about his very own dictionary.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Bad}}, {{Film|The Cheat}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Strong Sad}}, {{Film|Pom Pom}}, {{Film|Homestar Runner}}, {{Film|Marzipan}}, {{Film|Strong Mad}}, {{Film|Bubs}}, {{Film|Coach Z}}, {{Film|Homsar}}, {{Film|The Poopsmith}}, {{Film|The King of Town}}

'''Places:''' [[Computer Room]], [[Strong Sad's Room]], [[The Field]], [[The Movie Theater]] (Easter egg)

{{Comp|Compé}}

'''Date:''' Tuesday, September 1, 2009

'''Running Time:''' 3:48

'''Page Title:''' Compy Compé

==External Links==

http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail204.html
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail204.swf

Talk:Main Page

2009-09-01T16:54:36Z

Atarifanatic: /**/Hidden Sbemail!

{{Main Page Talk}}

== Archive ==

What do you have to say about running an archive of our deleted pages? Some sound interesting and I want to see them. I won't become a sysop anytime soon, so... --{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 16:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:All of the pages that were previously deleted obviously don't need to be kept, hence wwhy they were deleted by the [[Special:Listusers/sysop|overlords]] and [[Special:Listusers/bureaucrat|gods]] of the wiki. It would be too much trouble to bring them all back anyway, and a troll might grab the code and restore the page. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 17:33, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

== 50 best sbemails ==

someone mark this post as patrolled; visit the store if you have to. The [[Sbemail's 50 Greatest Hits|post]] might need a clean up, but it's true. {{User:Open Source Greg/sig}} 11:12, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
*This is true. Someone patrol it; everyone needs to know this!
Can somebody who own the dvd please complete the article ASAP? [[User:Omnisweater|Omnisweater]] 17:24, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
:The sooner you buy it, the sooner you can take care of that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:38, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

== Image:Egg.jpg ==

Is it a good idea to make this image transparent so it doesn't look awful on black surfaces? I looked at the thing's user page, and that white box on black is really annoying. I have made a PNG of this, but I don't think it looks that great either. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}

==Signature Size==
is my signature size fine? Because the coffee cup only extends a few pixels outside the box -_-

http://hrwiki.org/index.php/User_talk:Iyeru/sig#testing {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:It's no worse than [[User:Phlip/sig|Phlip's]], so I think it is fine. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
::Looks fine to me, too, but I'm the new guy, so don't listen to me :-P [[User:LobStoR|LobStoR]] 00:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
::''edit'': you also might be able to crop my screenshot a little bit further, to squeeze your sig down maybe another pixel or so. [[User:LobStoR|LobStoR]] 00:52, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
:::I made it 18 pixels this time, it should fit better now. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
::::You can leave it 20 pix if you want. There's a slight inconsistency in how the box shows up, but 20pix is the guideline that the wiki's set, and is fine. -[[Special:Contributions/128.103.10.135|128.103.10.135]] 14:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

== Adopt-A-File? ==

I noticed there's a HEAVY LOURDE of files on the unusedfiles page. When do these files get deleted, and if they don't, shouldn't we start an Adopt-A-File campaign of some sorts? {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:No, that's not necessary. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
::So I'm guessing they never get deleted? {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:::Not in most cases, no. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:10, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

== Linking Internal Images to Internal Pages... ==

How do we do this? <nowiki>[[File:Example.jpg|link=http://wikipedia.org]]</nowiki> doesn't work according to MediaWiki forums because we do not have MediaWiki 1.14+. And I can't use imagemap tag on such a small image as my sig image (as it will just be a circle with an i in it) {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:Like this: <code><nowiki>[http://targetlink.com http://www.hrwiki.org/path/to/Example.jpg]</nowiki></code> — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
::The picture I'm going to link to though is over 500 pixels -_- I doon't think that's small enough to fit in my signature. Plus, you're still linking externallyish using that. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
:::Something like [http://www.google.com http://hrwiki.org/images/thumb/e/ea/CupAJoe.png/18px-CupAJoe.png] ? (Note: what I thought I was doing didn't actually work... but the end result did anyway... I'm not sure if the URL of the 18px version is permanent or a cache thing though, you might want/need to upload a version that is explicitly the size you want). —[[Special:Contributions/98.222.134.36|98.222.134.36]] 04:16, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
::::The 18px thumbnail thing is semi-permanent... it won't disappear on its own, but if you upload a new image over that one, then it'll disappear, and you'll have to look at a page with <code><nowiki>[[Image:CupAJoe.png|18px]]</nowiki></code> (either hard-refresh a page that already has it, or add it to a page and show preview, that sort of thing) to get it to re-generate the thumbnail. Best bet is to put that in a <code><noinclude></code> section in the sig template itself, just in case. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 08:22, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, I did that. Now to wait for someone to vandalize the picture and upload a huge or really, really small one-pixel version of the image. :D {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
::::::It's like no one knows of the {{t|pl}} template anymore... {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 14:41, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::How do you even USE that template in conjunction with a file? Seems pointless to bring it up here when there's no input for a file. {{User:Iyeru/sig}}
::::::::Like this: <code><nowiki>{{pl|l=http://www.google.com http://hrwiki.org/images/thumb/e/ea/CupAJoe.png/18px-CupAJoe.png}}</nowiki></code> makes this :{{pl|l=http://www.google.com http://hrwiki.org/images/thumb/e/ea/CupAJoe.png/18px-CupAJoe.png}}. And please sign your talk posts with 4 tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 14:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Sure thing Mike, err, Micheal. {{User:Iyeru/sig}} 14:59, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::That's much better. And it's Michael. ;) {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 15:00, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

== Link to Job Queue ==

The link to the information on Job Queues in [[Special:Statistics]] is broken (sort of). It should instead link to {{p|l=http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Job_queue Job queue}} on MediaWiki.org. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 18:17, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

== New article idea ==

I've an idea for a new article: fanscripts, people could post scripts that they invented about homestar runner's adventures, please can you consider my idea- posted 23 Thursday 2009 [[User:DJ Dumpy Dump|DJ Dumpy Dump]]

The wiki, as far as I know, doesn't put articles on fanstuff. There are other places you can post things, like the H*R fanstuff wiki (after the purge is over) and the fanstuff forum.--[[User:Mariofan1000|Mariofan1000]] 16:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

:: What happened to Fanstuff? I'm probably not going to get a real answer, but can someone point me in direction of finding one?

== new videlectrix update, ==

im not sure if any of you saw this but theres a new update on the
videlectrix site http://www.videlectrix.com/ {{User:Girrbyte/sig}}
:So just post it. There's a template for recent changes that you edit to show the changes, you know. If not, well now you know!

== Background Image ==

I'd like to resurrect [[HRWiki:Main Page Talk Archive 28#Background Image|a topic]] that I brought up almost a year ago. Here's [http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1783/fieldgreyxd2.png a link] to the tileable image that I suggest we use as our new background image. Plans were to make the change with update 1.13, which was skipped.. so, what's the plan now? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 13:07, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
:I still haven't forgotten about that. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
::OptimisticFool, would it be too hard to make a different image in the style of the [[:Image:Pizza Joint The Field.PNG|current design of the field]]? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 00:25, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Maybe, maybe not. The sky might present a challenge. Here's a quickly-thrown-together new-style field with an all-white sky, first [http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1875/newfieldtile.png the tile], and then [http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6584/newfieldtiled.png the tiled result]. I'm kind of partial to the older field, but I'm willing to fight with the sky behind the new field if it's the popular vote. {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 13:31, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

== Preferences ==

I went into my preferences and saw in the "Old password" box a word that was twice the size of the box (with the black dots). Is this normal, or was my account hacked? Because I'm automatically logged in here and haven't entered my password since last week. And my password isn't that long. Yes, I'm aware that this question doesn't belong here, so where do I post this? {{User:Thy Not Dennis/sig}} 21:40, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:[[HRWiki talk:FAQ]]. It's not normal (the field for the old password isn't pre-filled when the page loads), but I don't think your account was hacked. Maybe a key was stuck on your keyboard and you selected the field. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 22:27, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
::You're probably right. It's fine now, and I just logged in on a different computer. {{User:Thy Not Dennis/sig}} 01:04, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== Case (in)sensitive links - plugin? ==

I am under the impression that this wiki uses a plugin to achieve case insensitivity on the links (see [[HRWiki:Autopipe/Autoredirect]])... I don't immediately see anything under [[Special:Version]] that sticks out to me as being it. I was wondering if anyone knows how that was accomplished on here? Thanks. {{User:LobStoR/sig}} 16:03, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:It's not a plugin so much as a direct hack to the system core. With each new branch release of MediaWiki, I'm able to move more and more of it to hooks, but even in the latest release it still requires substantial edits to LinkHolderArray.php (formerly Parser.php) as well as minor edits to a couple of other files. (The edits are substantial enough that I'm still not comfortable releasing it into the wild, if you wonder.) — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:32, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

== Rating system ==

I have an idea. We could allow people to rate the page from 1 star to 5 stars. Let me know if anyone think this is a good idea.
:I gotta' side with a "not really". As this is a wiki, people can edit the page if they don't think it's up to snuff. Rating a page would just act like a note that says, "I'm to lazy to edit this part, so I'm gonna' leave it up to someone with more time on their hands". Plus, it could be an easy place for trolls to strike, which could probably mean the ratings would be inadequate with what they should be. {{User:DevonM/sig}} 03:26, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
:: As with Devon, this is a wiki. Pages change so quickly the quality will waver every edit. Plus this will only open up more trolling, what with all the "1 starring" and "bad voting" and such. <strike>Good</strike> idea. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 03:31, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I also agree, trolling would be the number one reason for it not to be included (as well as to be included actually) so I could label you as a troll. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 18:42, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Look, I was just trying to let people know what is a page that they should check out or not ColdReactive. Kevo411
:::::ColdReactive, no, you could not. There's nothing trollish about this good-faith request. Still, I have to agree with Devon that this isn't really a good idea. If an article's bad, people should take the time to leave a note on the talk page (or better yet, fix it themselves), not just leave a quick rating. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 08:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

== New Toon Now ==

Cheat Commandos Part 2 has now replaced the 'New Toon Soon' main page message. Since I'm not sure how to make it, I'd like it if someone could right an article.
-Corruption

::Already on it. Please help if you can. [[2 Part Episode: Part 2]].--{{User:Record307/sig}} 20:15, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

== somethings wrong ==

I;m trying to watch the new cheat commandoes toon part one, but its not leading, but my internet is fast today?

Something wrong?
[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 06:36, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:This is an [[Talk:2 Part Episode: Part 1#Flash file deleted?|acknowledged problem]]. It's not just you. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 06:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

== Server adjustments ==

The fanstuff wiki will return 404'd when I try to view it. --{{User:Fangoriously/SIGGY HERE!}} 01:19, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
:The wiki and its sister sites may be unavailable for various periods of time as we make server adjustments throughout the evening. Everything is fine; nothing is ruined. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
::Sorry you had to edit the heading of my topic. I am Fangoriously, just not logged in. And I changed the heading back! --[[Special:Contributions/98.162.148.46|98.162.148.46]] 02:15, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Changed back. The topic is not specifically fanstuff-related, but rather has to do with the entire server, making the current heading more appropriate. Note that section headers are not in any way owned or controlled by the original poster. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:06, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== Marking duplicate images ==

With the upgrade to MW1.15, I'm really liking the more robust search and file page layout (being able to see thumbnails is good!). However, I seem to remember not long after the Wiki was up and running again, I saw a note on a page saying it was a duplicate image. Has the way of marking duplicate images changed? For example, we have [[:File:Scrawn Job.jpg|Scrawn job.jpg]] and [[:File:Scrawnjob.png|Scrawnjob.png]] as duplicates of [[:File:scrawnjob.png|scrawnjob.png]]. (Note the files in question are in different resolutions and formats.) Does the system automagically note when two files are the same, or is there a way other than using the [[:Template:delete|delete template]]? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 23:16, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:The system can tell when images are identical, down to the last pixel. It can't tell automatically otherwise. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:24, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== SignBot Like on Wikipedia? ==

It's getting annoying to have to remember the unsigned template. Can't we create a bot that auto signs unsigned posts, like [[Wikipedia:User:SineBot|Wikipedia does]]? {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 04:12, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
:That seems like a good idea in theory. But that bot has one of the most perverted userboxes on its userpage that I've ever seen... >_> {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 04:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
::Perverted, maybe, but it's true. Programming isn't frequently known to wear clothes while editing. Also, I totally agree. The problem is programming; SineBot itself isn't opensource. Someone would have to code it on out.
:::EDIT: I forgot to sign. XD --{{User:Onamuji/sig}} 04:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Perverted? This is the HRWiki, not a Southern elementary school. —{{User:Mibluvr13/sig}} 20:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::I'm in the process of persuading the coder to either give me the source, or run it over here. {{User:The Goblin/sig}} 23:53, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== Rando tool ==

I've created a quick and easy tool that redirects people to a random toon. It is at [http://scriptwiki.net/rando.php], and the documentation is [[User:The Goblin/rando|here]]. {{User:The Goblin/sig}} 23:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

:Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in /rando.php on line 502. Seems like it has prablems. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 03:25, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
::I saw this earlier today and it was working fine. now i got that same message. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 03:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Fixed. {{User:The Goblin/sig}} 03:47, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
:::: [http://i29.tinypic.com/msj12x.png warnings are afoot] still. The last warning (about headers) is because you're using header() function even though the head HTML tag was already passed. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 12:54, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
:::: seems you fixed them. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 14:58, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

== Don't auto-parse image url as image ==

Please don't, it's annoying. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 12:55, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's built into the MediaWiki software. If you want to link to a File: or Category:, just append it with a colon. (<nowiki>[[:File:somepicture.png]]</nowiki>) For off-site images, it seems to be working fine. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:29, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
:Okay, will test nowiki with offsite images. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 16:05, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

== Wikitable class not used? ==

I've noticed that most tables on this wiki don't use the built-in "[[Meta:Help:Table#Style_classes|wikitable]]" class. Why is this? Changing all of the tables to <code><nowiki>class="wikitable"</nowiki></code> saves a lot more time and space than <code><nowiki>border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 style="border-collapse:collapse"</nowiki></code>. I know it doesn't matter, but I also prefer the light shade of gray on the cell borders, which the wikitable class uses, than the darker shade of gray that we currently use. --[[Special:Contributions/76.224.216.122|76.224.216.122]] 19:52, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

== What time? ==

What time are new toons usually added? {{User:The thing/sig}} 02:41, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
:Usually it's sometime between 12:00:00 AM and 11:59:59 PM, give or take a week or two. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 02:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

== Harmless Junk, Inc ==

Anyone know what domains [http://bit.ly/13xcd5 these] are? {{User:The thing/sig}} 03:29, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
: homestarrunner.com, videlectrix.com, thoraxcorp.com, and that website. whatthepafargle.com or something i forgot ---[[User:girrbyte|Girrbyte]]
::Thorax Corp isn't owned by Harmless Junk... it's owned by TBC, but not under the company. I think there was a whatthepfargtl site at one point, but it was owned by a fan, not TBC. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 09:23, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
::: [[http://hrwiki.org/wiki/homestarrunner.com#Other_Domains acording to the homestar runner.com page the domain for whatthepfargtl was owned by them for a short time]] --[[User:girrbyte|Girrbyte]]
::::Actually, there is a [http://www.harmlessjunk.com harmlessjunk.com]. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 00:58, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::::: The K is stumping me and that's saying something. I find it strange that ronplanet.com is not included in that list. —{{User:MibZelinda/sig}} 05:17, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Not conflict'd? ==

[http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Crimes_Committed_by_Strong_Bad&diff=next&oldid=662404 Is there something wrong with the edit conflict function?] {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 02:05, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:I was wondering the same thing. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 02:12, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::What exactly is that link supposed to be highlighting? What was the difference between the expected and observed behavior? — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:01, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Me and Knights removed the same thing, at the same time. Both show up in Recent Changes. {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 03:16, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::::In addition to removing that line, you apparently added a period on a different line, which makes it count as a different edit. The software is designed to merge edits when there's a conflict if they don't interfere with each other. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:09, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::I had something the other day: i was trying to revert something, but DeFender beat me to it, so my edit didn't show up at all. i think that's what you mean by merging edits. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 16:58, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Sort of. If you edit part of an article in ''exactly the same way'' as someone else before you, the system won't display a conflict. If you make no other changes, your edit will just be ignored, as in your last example. But if you change something elsewhere in the article, it will show up as two edits: first the part that you both changed (credited to the other person), and then whatever else you changed (which is what happened with the addition of the period in the very first example). The primary use of this feature is to allow one person to edit, say, the transcript of an article and another person to edit the remarks. The system (using [[Wikipedia:diff3|diff3]]) can merge the two edits without displaying a conflict as long as they don't interfere with each other. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:37, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Okay, it makes much more sense now. Thanks. {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 21:42, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

== Cookies saved separately ==

External links and subtitle links link to www.hrwiki.org when I'm browsing hrwiki.org, this means I'm not logged in when I click them; as cookies are saved separately for www.hrwiki.org and hrwiki.org {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 22:58, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:The workaround is to log in on both www.hrwiki.org and hrwiki.org. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:12, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::Feels like the admins are too lazy to fix it though with that response. Fine, whatever. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 23:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
:::They're not ''lazy.'' For security reasons, any browser sees '''www.hrwiki.org''' and '''hrwiki.org''' as two different websites. {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 23:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
::::ColdReactive: Thanks for your comments. I will bear them in mind the next time you need assistance. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:08, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Help with subtitles ==

When I tried to do the subtitles for that weird [[home|H - o - m - e]] video, the subtitles wouldn't display because the software automatically assumes that the page is on [[homestarrunner.com]], but it's on [[videlectrix]].com. Does anyone (preferably [[User:Phlip|Phlip]]) know how to fix this? {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 20:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:OK, looks like there were different problems with both the GM script and the local viewer with that subtitles script... both have been fixed. The GM script got confused by the nested templates in the header... which was fixed by creating a redirect so that the nested templates {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Subtitles:home/en&diff=664941&oldid=664733 weren't necessary}}. If we ever do need nested templates on a subtitles script for some reason, adding <code><nowiki><noinclude></noinclude></nowiki></code> tags around it will also fix it. For the local viewer, it's been changed so that you can have an absolute URL in the <code>file</code> attribute (which has to be a {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Subtitles:home/en&diff=next&oldid=664941 full URL}}), as long as it's on homestarrunner.com, videlectrix.com or the mirror. All three should work, now. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 04:16, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

== Broken link ==

[http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail203 watch] (links to sbemail "independent") is broken. Please change it to [http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail203.html watch]. --[[User:Pdedecker|Pdedecker]] 10:28, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:That "fixed" link is also 404'd for me. In fact, the entire H*R Website is not updated with that email for me. {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 12:48, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::It's broken because there's no ".html" at the end of it. The correct link is [http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail203.html here.] {{User:MichaelXX2/sig}} 21:10, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Yup. Just like the second link in the original post. This {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:whatsnew&diff=prev&oldid=667245 was fixed}} six and a half days ago, when this thread was current. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:16, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== Security change? ==

I know that H*R is suppose to be a Wiki that anyone can edit, but it seems like lately especially, we've had numerous incidents where anonies are coming in just to disrupt the wiki just because they think that they are funny. While I don't want to totally block anony edits, and it wouldn't completely eliminate the problem, but would it be worth it to at least block anony page creation? From what I've observed is that while occasionally an anony does create a useful page, that makes up a very small percentage. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 15:57, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I agree with you, but I AM VERY ANNOYED WITH ALL THOSE NONSENSE PAGES. We could have, like, a requested article page for the annonies who want to create a page or something. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 16:15, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::Meh, they're a minor annoyance. Nothing to get worked up about. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 21:00, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Or we could just force everyone to LOGIN. *cough* {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 00:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::::There's no reason to go that far. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 01:43, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::Back on the original topic of just restricting page creation: We're not Wikipedia, but what Wikipedia does can be informative to us. Wikipedia does in fact restrict page creation to logged-in accounts. What caused Wikipedia to make this restriction was not mere vandalism, but actual [[Wikipedia:libel|libel]] concerns related to [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:biographies of living persons|biographies of living persons]] (the specific impetus a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia biography controversy|controversy]] in which a biography was created falsely linking a journalist to the [[Wikipedia:John F. Kennedy assassination|John F. Kennedy assassination]]) and this was not caught for quite some time. We have no matters this serious here at HRWiki: some nonsense pages are being created and then deleted relatively soon thereafter. We don't sometimes miss a few pages that then sit around for a few days (Wikipedia sometimes does just because it's so big). This kind of step really isn't needed; our cleanup methods are fine. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 04:26, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Maybe it's just me, but surely it's more work to tidy up after anonymous users going on rampages than it is to simply prevent anonymous users from going on a rampage in the first place. Though I find it really weird that they even care enough to bother going on said rampage in the first place. In the last three hours, you and Jay have had to block twenty-five different IP addresses (most likely all the same user using some kind of spoofing software) and revert extremely offensive vandalism. I mean, you could have spent that time doing something more productive. --[[User:Belthazar|Belthazar]] 08:27, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::::It would be sad and counterproductive to block all annonies from editing. Most of them do good work, and I'm sure most users here started as annonies. We should keep the open and inviting nature of this wiki and not panic because every once in a blue moon some idiot is bored. That would be over-reacting and destroying a part of our wiki's culture.{{User:Loafing/sig}} 09:50, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Wow, I can't believe you actually did it. How long will this last? (No new users and no annony editing) I hope we can remove this lock soon...there were many ''many'' helpful annonies, and only one(?) very bad one. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 12:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, anonies can be helpful! Can they at least register, or is our member count forever frozen? [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 12:09, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I doubt they'll leave the ban forever, but I'm not sure if the whole disabling user creation thing is necessary. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 12:15, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, it sucks being prevented from editing due to other people's actions. I know this firsthand; this one time I saw a bunch of things that needed fixing at Bulbapedia, but I couldn't do anything because vandals caused account creation to be disabled. I felt kinda sad, and I imagine anonies here would feel the same. [[User:Hagurumon|Hagurumon]] 12:18, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Are we gonna post a note or something on this page, like "anonymous editing and user creation have temporarily disabled due to vandalism, and we apologize for any inconvenience this may cause"? And yes, I know what it's like not being able to edit a wiki that needs fixing. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 12:31, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:Man. The first time I checked this wiki today I saw all of this vandalism going on the recent changes page. ''And'', two days after soda explosion in one of my family's cars, it starts to smell like a dumpster! [[ghosts|Boy, is it ever Monday]]! I'm fine with blocking off anonnies from editing temporarily. It won't be a big loss if anonymous users can't edit for a day or two, as long as it deters some of the proxying vandals away. It does seem we have been getting a series of vandals these past weeks. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 19:44, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::Also, I do agree that we should put up a notice, but what position would be appropriate (i.e., <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:recentchangesnotice|recentchangesnotice]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> or [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]]), I'm not sure. Also, this has been happening once in a while with my ISP, but is just me or is the wiki a little slow? {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 19:51, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:::There's no need for a notice, because anonnies aren't blocked. This morning was just a temporary measure. Yes the server is a little slow. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 19:54, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I couldn't even view the wiki for 3 hours, and it's still slow. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 19:58, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Is there sever maintenence going on or something? Three hours was an awfully long downtime. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 23:31, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::The speed seems to be goinging back to normal for me. It's Dot Com, out of curiosity, what's been happening with the server these past four hours? {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::The server experienced a technical problem unrelated to the events of yesterday evening. We are working on getting everything back the way it's supposed to be. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:35, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Well, I wasn't here for yesterday evening (in UTC?) so I guess I missed something. {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:38, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::In short, we had two or three waves of vandal attacks; one group possibly from 4chan or Encyclopedia Dramatica, defacing pages with explicit images from several different IPs, likely spoofed (sidebar: don't go looking at them, they are nasty. I do hope IDC can get them pulled or suppressed). Then our more recent vandal who's been doing all the nonsense pages, showed up, and just defaced pages. [[User:Heimstern Läufer|HL]] and [[User:Jay|J]] did a great job of valiantly defending yon wiki from the foul despoilers. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 23:58, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::That was probably the most foul vandalism I've seen on the wiki. I saw it before the whole server thing went wrong. I was going to make sure that it was all reverted, but I GAVE UP. (Partly because the server was acting up, but partly because of the filth) Wbwolf's right; don't look for it. {{User:Theycallmefree/sig}} 00:19, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Also, is it safe to edit the wiki as normal? Or should we give things a little time? {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 23:40, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Last question, what is the switchout of the main pages fixing?--{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 23:45, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::A miscellaneous glitch. I'll put it back when I can. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:59, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

== API URL? ==

Do we have the MediaWiki API set up over here? I would like to add Homestar Runner Wiki to [http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=317805085 WikiSnail], a MediaWiki client, on my iPhone. I would need to know the URL for the API in order to connect to this wiki (I assume they mean the "api" folder). {{User:Soiled Bargains/sig}} 02:46, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

== Hidden Sbemail! ==

Well, not really hidden. Just go to Toons/Dictionary, or use this link: http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail204.html. Can this be added to the main page? I'll add it to the Updates (if it hasn't been done). And this was added to the forum. [[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]][[User_Talk:Atarifanatic|fanatic]][[Image:atarifanatic_sig.png|Atari controller]] 16:54, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Scroll Button Songs

2009-08-31T14:35:59Z

Atarifanatic: /* Silent Lappy */

== Norman vs. Normal ==

For the "S to the C, R O double L, my name is not Norman, but still I rock well!" rap, I always thought of it as "S to the C, R O double L, my name is not normal, but still I rock well!" If I'm the only one, then I'll shut up, but yeah. ~senor

:It's certainly Norman, because Norman Rockwell is a famous painter. It's a joke. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 15:28, 9 Apr 2005 (MDT)

::Okay, thanks. :) {{unsigned|señor|17:00, 9 April 2005 (UTC)}}

:::It could also be a referance to those old [http://www.emeraldnuts.com emerald nuts] ads, where, in one, there are two guys yelling "I am Norman and I am great! I am Norman and I am also great! I'm a greater Norman then you are!" etc. etc. {{User:Bubsty/sig}} 04:23, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

== A long one ==

Is it me, or has the current rap been kept longer than the previous ones? -Kinsey

:Yes, it has. {{User:FireBird/sig}} 15:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

::You know what scroll button song lasted the longest (over one year)? The one that begins with "You never seen anything..." Let's put it in the Trivia section, shall we? --[[Special:Contributions/69.19.14.44|69.19.14.44]] 14:42, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

== Broken links ==

All the links to the sbemail raps on http://e2tl.playvectrex.com just come up with a "HTTP 404 Not Found" page.

These three links are the only ones that do work:
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail_lappy.swf
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.swf
http://porplemontage.com/media/sbemail_raps/Scroll%20it.swf
[[User:The Tire|The Tire]] 23:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I already changed all of these over to my mirror, problem solved.
--Kit

== Two things ==

First, the previous scroll rap link (scroll buttons and the Lappy) actually gives the present one.

Second, that mention of the Coach Z/Strong Bad rap duet being a reference to [[rampage]] is highly doubtful.. considering [[rampage]] came way after.

-- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 12:56, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== I know it would be hard now, but... ==

It would be cool if we had which emails the scroll button songs were active for, like for the second latest "119-130" or the latest "131-present."

Also, these shouldn't be called 'Email Raps,' they should be called 'Scroll Button Songs' or 'Scroll Button Raps' or something along those lines. [[User:señor|»ßenit, known as señor«]] 23:08, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== The newest Scroll Button Song ==

The newest scroll button song that appeared after email 131 is also the song that Marzipan sings in [[replacement]]. Strong Bad says it is the worst song ever, but apparently he uses it now. - [[User:EMJS|EMJS]]

== Smoking crack ==

I don't believe that Coach Z is saying anything about smoking crack in the scroll button rap duet, I *think* he is saying then you must go crash, but I could be wrong.

:I definitly hear a "sh" at the end of Coach Z's rap...besides i doubt The Brothers would put such a drug reference, especially one encouraging drug use... -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 01:57, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oh, he's saying crack. Make no mistake. For one thing, it rhymes with "attack." But the absolute proof is the fact that the Chaps changed it so quickly. Like, within a couple days. I don't know the exact time frame - could have sworn the dates used to be printed on this page.

: I think someone found TBC explicitly saying that it's "smoke crack." But he wasn't saying "must" as in "you should do this," he was saying it as in "you probably already do." --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

::I'm just saying that if you listen to it with speakers on full tilt I hear coach z saying "crash"...then again it might just be Strong Bad begining to say "scroll"...but i still hear a soft "sh" rather than a hard "ck"... -- [[User:Tony Stony|Tony Stony]] 23:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::I recommend some new speakers.

:Crack rhymes with attack. That's proof enough for me. <tt>[[User:Homestar Coder|Aurora the Homestar Coder]]</tt> 23:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. Crack=attack. That's definitley enüff prüff for me. --[[User:VolatileChemical|VolatileChemical]] 20:44, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I always thought it was:
CZ: And if you're tryin' to fade me then you must smoke grass!
SB: Scroll buttons aww yeah like that heart attack.
I guess that doesn't really rhyme, but it's what it sounded like to me.

And as a side note, yes, they did not mean: "SMOKE IT!" They meant it as: "If you're making fun of me then obviosly you smoke something."
--[[User:Kit|Kit]]

crash is what I hear --[[User:Mrdude|jake]] 05:33, 21 Aug 2005 (UTC)

:He definitely says "smoke crash," but I think that's just his accent acting up. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

Sounds like 'grass' to me. 'smoke grass' .. it doesn't rhyme, but that's what it sounds like. marginally 'better' ^_^'

I hear a "sh" and a "ck" both at the same time. {{User:Salty/sig}} 04:13, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Guys, if you have the DVD, you hear it clearly: it's "crack." 'Nuff said. --[[User:ISlayedTheKerrek|ISlayedTheKerrek]] 05:32, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Um, I hear crash, not crack. Like "And if your trying to fade me you must smoke ''crash''." Is it just me or did someone else hear it? [[User:Doctorwho295|Doctorwho295]] April 6, 2009

Smoking crash? What does that even mean? It doesn't make sense! What this is so pointless! esides, this discussion ended years ago. Why bring it up? We already have consensus. Geez. --[[User:Jellote|Jellote]] 23:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
== Cut off ==

In the new "scroll buttons and random" rap, a sound clip of SB saying "Wha-" can be heard at the end. The sound clip is SB saying something else, but all we hear is "Wha-".
*I think that this has more to do with your flash player than it does the scroll button rap. Sometimes, (and I have no idea why), the sound doesn't cut off when it's supposed to. You probably heard the start of one of the random.bat noises. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] [[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]] 11:13, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

== Moving Suggestion ==

I think this should be moved to "Strong Bad Scroll Button Raps". It has more relevance. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 14:59, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I agree with Super Sam. --[[User:69.40.181.52|69.40.181.52]] 15:04, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't logged in. ''I'' agree with Super Sam --[[User:Smileyface11945|Smileyface11945]] 15:06, 14 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:Well, I hear no objections, so I'll move it. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:35, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

::I don't like it, and there should be more of a consensus before a move like that. {{User:Some HSR themed username/sig}} 12:37, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:What is it called in the DVD? (If they call it something...) Anyway, I'm fine either way. - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''

It would be nice to know why you object. (Some HSR themed username and Lapper) To me, Email Raps are the things Strong Bad says at the start of each email. Scroll Button Raps/Songs/Whatever are the things Strong Bad says on the menu page. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:53, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

:'''Update:''' Alright, following Joshua's suggestion, I looked at the DVD page. ([[strongbad_email.exe_Disc_One]]) It says this:

:<blockquote>Scroll Button Songs: A video featuring every scroll button rap up until the "S to the C" rap.</blockquote>

:I think that speaks for itself. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:58, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)
::Yep. Scroll Button Rap. Any objections now? - '''''[[User:Joshua|Joshua]]'''''
:::For clarification - "Scroll Button Songs" is what it's called on the DVD. The "every scroll button rap" part was added by the wiki, saying what it was, but it's only called "Songs" on the DVD itself. {{User:Phlip/sig}} 17:05, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

I think I will move it back now. {{User:Rogue Leader/sig}} 13:35, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:Why? What's the problem now? When you object to something, you really should say why. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 07:00, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

:*Unless I'm mistaken, his message was in response to the above discussion, and this was a comment stating that he was moving the page back to [[Strong Bad Email Raps]]. Which is were it is now. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] [[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]] 07:08, 3 Oct 2005 (UTC)

I figured that. I want to know why he moved it back. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 10:05, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

*Oh, I see. I mis-read the discussion, and thought it was a decision reached by consensus. Looking over it again, I see your point. Disregard. --[[User:Blu Aardvark|Blu Aardvark]] [[user talk:Blu Aardvark|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blu Aardvark|(edits)]] 11:10, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Alright. Now, unless I start getting some valid reasons why this should not be moved. "Scroll Button Songs" is the official name, as noted on [[strongbad_email.exe_Disc_One|this page]]. It's been almost a month. Reasons, or I'm moving it. -- {{User:Super_Sam/sig}} 12:02, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

:Do it. Accuracy is best. - {{User:Joshua/sig}}

:I'm moving it right now.

::Um... take a closer look at this conversation. It happened '''in 2005'''. Nothing has been said since then, and the page was never moved (or, if it was, it was moved back). -{{User:YK/sig}} 20:20, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Top H*R Listen button & Firefox ==

For most of my browsing I use firefox, and firefox gives you an interesting feature: it puts the site icons next to some of the links placed in this wiki (if you use firefox or netscape you'll know what i'm talking about, if you use IE or Opera you won't see anything). For the longest time I thought this was a feature of the wiki -- that it automatically added these sprites into the HTML code. I found out that it doesn't when I surfed this page. Ok -- on to my point in this page. If you surf this page with firefox, the first "Listen" button is shifted to the left because of the icon, and so it crossed the table boundaries, looking not-so-good! IE and opera do not do this, as I mentioned earlier, and so they look fine and line up fine.
:*Does anybody have an explanation as to why Firefox does this with this site
:*Does anyone have good suggestions as to making that table look good in both Firefox and IE (other than the one i thought of which was to make that column bigger).
--[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:49, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

:I saw what you were talking about. all it needed is just a fixed width. I set it up to 70. looks good? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 14:13, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

::Looks great! Thanks! It bothers me though that only certain users will see what we're talking about. They probably thing we're crazy ;)... Ironic ain't it? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 16:12, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

:By the way, it isn't Firefox inserting the icons. The Wiki does insert them by itself, but only certain browsers (i.e. Firefox) can see them. If you are on a different browser, and wondering what we're talking about, see [http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/Linknotes.png this image]. --{{User:Venusy/Sig}}, 17:33, 13 October 2005 (BST)

::Ahhh! Thank you! That clears things up a lot! If you don't mind, I'll post a [[User_talk:Lapper#Link_notes|link]] to the discussion being shown in the screenshot. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 17:06, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

:::Yes, those icons are displayed using CSS3. See the [http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/CR-css3-selectors-20011113/ W3C specs] for more information. Oh, and in addition to Firefox/Mozilla/Seamonkey/Gecko etc., I pretty sure Safari supports them, but I don't have a Mac so I couldn't tell you for sure.[[User:Tom|<nowiki></nowiki>]] -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 20:27, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yes--Safari also supports them. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 20:39, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== Main page updates ==

When the song is updated, I think it should be listed as "New Scroll Button Song" Instead of rap, because they haven't been raps for the past few times anyway, and it will be more correct.--[[User:Martin925|Martin925]] 21:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

== why isn't there ==

a link to the (current) second scroll button song?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 05:16, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

the one that says: Scroll buttons and random, you can't handle 'em. Just the way I planned 'em. Everybody likes... you... friend.

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 04:40, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

:See below. {{User:ACupOfCoffee/sig}} 04:52, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

== Audio / Video of other scroll button songs ==
I see no one got the swf of the other scroll button songs. I have a video of them in avi format (and the audio in mp3 format). Should I post them online so that they can be linked from here? [[User:DrWorm|DrWorm]]

:Hmm... I don't see any problem with that. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 17:09, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

== HRWiki Mirror ==
Can we get HRWiki mirrors for every old scroll button song possible? Similar to the one featured in [[If I Ran the Camera]]? That way it'd be neater, more secure, and updated so people can listen to ones like the Rando song. - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:13, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:[[If I Ran the Camera]] is kind of a special case in the fact that this is (or at least was at the time of creation) the only mirror for the toon. We don't want to start mirroring everything in our little wiki. I'm pretty sure our links to mirror websites are more than enough in this case. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:18, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
[http://home.comcast.net/~alanweiss3/dwedit/files/ifiranthecamera.html Original mirror of If I Ran the Camera.] So... that arguement isn't really true, as the HRWiki mirror came from that one. And I don't trust these mirror sites too much as they seem to have stopped updating. (So they might go offline at any moment, I think.) But I guess I'm fine with them. But what about the modern scroll button song that has no mirror? Are we going to make one for that? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:24, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
:Oh you're right. Sorry about that. My bad. You make a pretty good case. Alright, I'm behind you, but you gotta get the vote of an admin too, to upload around a dozen toon mirrors. {{User:Thunderbird L17/Siggie}} 16:28, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

::Sure, I'll do it. Who is up for making a list of links to the files here to make it easier for me? I think the only one you'll have a hard time finding is the Norman Rockwell one. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 15:56, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
:::[http://homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemailnotnorman.html Normal Rockwell?] Or did you mean the Rando one? - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 16:41, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

::::The Rando one, that's it. Serves me right for trusting my memory and not checking the article. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 17:11, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

:::::Done. -- [[User:Tom|Tom]] 18:25, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

== There's no lady...ing allowed? ==

So no one has a copy of the lady...ing scroll buttong song?! :( I'm trying to see if my any miracle I have a copy but I doubt that... Has anyone been saving the current songs? That way when they "become old" we have them ready for archiving? --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:13, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
:I found a copy all by myself and [[User:Super Sam|Super Sam]] gets no credit. Yay! - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:00, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== Can't anyone find ==

A link to "Scroll buttons and random, you can't handle 'em. Just the way I planned 'em. Everybody likes... you... friend."

well?

[[User:Nikolce Kocovski|Nikolce Kocovski]] 04:44, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
:The world is saved! I found the [[Cool Things|blue ooonnneeesss]]!!!! - {{User:Joshua/sig}} 12:00, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

== Safari browser ==

<blockquote>As of June 10, 2006, users with Safari browsers can access an Easter egg: while Strong Bad is singing, switch to a different tab in the same window. Shortly after he finishes singing, Strong Bad will make a series of strange noises. If you switch back to his tab, he stops.</blockquote>
This "Easter egg" describes the random feature noises. Anyone else using the same browser experiance the same "Easter egg"? {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:39, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
:You're right, the same thing happens to me. I wonder if there are other cases where Flash does this. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 18:46, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

== No SB and song during vacation ==

I think that the fact that Strong Bad's "Scroll buttons, what is UP?" quote should have ended upon the release of [[vacation]], and I find that Strong Bad's presence during that email is questionable. So why not replace the end date (which is the date before the release of [[invisibility]]) with the date ''before'' the release of vacation?

All I'm sayin' is, Strong Bad wasn't here in the vacation menu.

: So, you're saying Strong Bad didn't appear in vacation? Uuuh, yeah he did, he answered the email.

No, no, no. It was the '''''sbemail''''' menu that listed sbemails 1 through 40. That's what I meant. --[[Special:Contributions/69.19.14.44|69.19.14.44]] 14:39, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

== Scrolling up high and down low ==

Okay, my last guess would be to provide an [[Wikipedia:Internet Archive|Internet Archive]] Wayback Machine copy of the last scroll button song. But until someone provides something to the mirror, this is all I have. And it's to listen to, not browse existing emails. [http://web.archive.org/web/20060823032022/http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html] --Don't try the random.bat on that archive, [[User:Addict 2006|Addict]] [[User talk:Addict 2006|2006]] 17:13, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

==Willie Wonka==

The latest one sounds like that Willie Wonka song "If you want to view paradise, simply look around and do it." [[User:Retromaniac|Retromaniac]] 01:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
:Nah, I think it barely resemles that, but if you really think it does, you could STUFF it. {{User:Theyellowdart/sig}}
::Nope, never, DELETED. [[User:Xifihas|Xifihas]] 17:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

==name'd==

i think this article needs a better name.--[[User:Dj teh homsar|Dj teh homsar]] 17:01, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

:What else can they be called. Scroll Button Songs is exactly what they are. They are also referenced by Strong Bad in [[replacement]].

== Ungh ==

That grunt at the end of the current (August 13, 2007) song reminds me a lot of Jimi Hendrix's style. Does anyone also think so, and think it's notable enough? --[[User:Dandin1|Dandin1]] 01:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I think your right. I guess thats notable.

== Mirror Glitch ==

Every mirror starting with the [[highschool]] song lists [[portrait]] as the newest email. (As well as the 1 before that, but that's not a problem) Is this intentional? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 22:29, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
:And if it was intentional, why do the mirrors of these songs leave out the newest emails at their last time of use? How did you remove those emails from the list? What do Strong Bad's parents look like? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:19, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
::Okay, in case you guys don't understand my posts, let me try to give an example. I'll use the "I scroll it up high, you scroll it down low," song since it was the 1 being used when I 1st got into Sbemails. If the mirror of that song is supposed to accurately reenact the menu from that era, it should have all the emails from [[some kinda robot]] to [[what I want]], but the list stops at [[portrait]]. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:50, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Can I at least get a, "There's nothing we can do about it so shut up"? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:15, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Why won't anybody answer my question already!? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 02:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
:Clearly all the users on HRWiki hate you.
:(I'm joking, and I don't know the answer)[[User:DAGRON|DAGRON]] 03:12, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
The problem is the XML file that controls the list isn't being updated. I know how to fix it, but it'll be a bit before I have the time to get it all organized. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
:I just found out you would have to fix the "scoll buttons and random" song as well. [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 00:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Can it be fixed by the end of the month? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 21:59, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
:It's on my to-do list. Since it's not a critical error, and since I'm working on several other things both in real life and here at the wiki, it's not very high on the list. But it will get done. Keep your pants on. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 20:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

== Should I... ==

Should I upload OGG files of the scroll button songs and post links to them on this page? --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 04:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

== Mash play on that jambox! ==

"The August 13th, 2007 song is the only one to include music, and the sound of the enter button is different."

After about the fifth time, I realized that might actually be the sound of hitting play on a tape player. In fact I'm fairly certain it is, since the enter key doesn't sound like that in the last couple emails. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 17:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

== Error in newest song? ==

With the song most recent song (Control your scroll, click and hold with scroll button), maybe it's just my computer screwing up, but Strong Bad always does that noise he makes when you press "random.bat". Has anyone else noticed this? {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 17:56, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
:Works fin in Firefox. [[User:King of wikis|King of wikis]] 18:02, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
::Hmmm...maybe I was just imagining it. It's gone now. Seemed like it was there before...::shrug::. Oh well. {{User:LongLiveCoachZ/sig}} 02:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I just heard it several times, myself. It never happened before today... weird? [[User:134.174.140.208|134.174.140.208]] 05:26, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
:This is starting to happen for me now, almost a year after this was first sighted. I just didn't know what it was from. [[User:Octan|Octan]] 02:09, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Happens in "You've never seen anything yadda yadda yadda" too. I think we should put that as a glitch in the article... --[[User:Pretztailfan95|Pretztailfan95]] 02:53, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
:::There is a known glitch with certain versions of flash player that make it play for a split second after a stop. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

== Control your scrolls. Click and hold with scroll buttons! ==

It's the first one with music. Beat that! :P

== Oh, you are now scrollin' with the best! Scroll buttons put your mouse-clickin' finger to the test! ==

I thought that strong bad didn't know what a mouse is?
(In the email where they redesigned the no loafing sign, he called the mouse on the cheat's G5 "a plastic bar of soap")
[[User:Poopskin|Poopskin]] 12:56, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:Maybe he didn't know what a powermac mouse was? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:08, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:: i always thought the song went "oh you are now scrollin' with the best scroll buttons. put your mouse clickin' finger to the test" [[User:58.174.65.227|58.174.65.227]] 13:31, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

== Kitkorp ==

There are many archieved email menus on the kitkorp mirrors. I heard one that I didn't see on the article.--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 22:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

== S to the C ==

It's still accessable on the website: http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.swf

== Quick changes ==

Why was [http://www.hrwiki.org/mirror/20070813_sbemail.html this one] changed to [http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html this one] so fast, but [http://www.hrwiki.org/mirror/20070122_sbemail_lappy.html this one] was changed to [http://www.hrwiki.org/mirror/20070813_sbemail.html this one] after a '''LONG''' time?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 14:00, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:Probably a coincidence...TBC are very busy lately...I think...considering that the website was at one point not updated for like many months...but now it's updating normally...

== No SB? ==

Where is Strong Bad?? Anybody knows/noticed, why/that he/his reflection is Missing? His voice is heard when you click random! If this due to DOOJ! why isn't the Lappy Missing? Anybody? [[Pom Pom]]? [[User:Der Schummler|Meh!]] 12:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== "Listen" ==

Listen to nothing? I doubt a link to the audio is necessary if there's absolutely no audio. [[User:Mechamind90|Mechamind90]] 16:05, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Mirror? ==

I seriously hope someone has a mirror somewhere of last week's Strong Bad Email Menu (most recent email: hremail3184, no song). {{User:The Chort/sig}} 13:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

== Silent Lappy ==

It says that there is no link for the silent lappy screen, but what about this? http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail_lappy.swf [[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]][[User_Talk:Atarifanatic|fanatic]][[Image:atarifanatic_sig.png|Atari controller]] 14:35, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Oops, I didn't see someone else had written something on it. Can this be deleted? [[User:Atarifanatic|Atari]][[User_Talk:Atarifanatic|fanatic]][[Image:atarifanatic_sig.png|Atari controller]] 14:35, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

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Talk:Stong Bad

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== Strond Bad ==

Would references to that variation be relevant? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:57, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, and to do so, just write in the reference, put in parenthesis "(Variation)", or you can add a whole entire section called, "Variations". It worked for me in the past. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 00:17, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== New Page Name ==

It seems to me that naming the page "Strong Bad Mispellings" would be easier than "Stong Bad," because it seems more descriptive, along with the part that a person could misspell "Strong Bad," and end up here. [[User:Atarifanatic|Atarifanatic]] 20:42, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
: Easy? Maybe. Related directly to the joke at hand? Not so much. The gag is about "Stong Bad" itself, not "Srong Bad" "Stank Bag" or anything else. Stong Bad is the joke, the rest are just related sub-jokes and one-offs. But if you say so, I'm adding the template.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 20:46, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
::The main joke here is the "Stong bad" not the variations thereof. As for people accidentally finding this page, that's what the disambiguation notice at the top is for. '''no rename'''. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:50, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:::That makes enough sense. I was thinking that the title was just referring to one of the names. Should the banner be taken down? (I have no idea if that's built-in or not). [[User:Atarifanatic|Atarifanatic]] 22:59, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

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== Strond Bad ==

Would references to that variation be relevant? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 23:57, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, and to do so, just write in the reference, put in parenthesis "(Variation)", or you can add a whole entire section called, "Variations". It worked for me in the past. --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 00:17, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

== New Page Name ==

It seems to me that naming the page "Strong Bad Mispellings" would be easier than "Stong Bad," because it seems more descriptive, along with the part that a person could misspell "Strong Bad," and end up here. [[User:Atarifanatic|Atarifanatic]] 20:42, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
: Easy? Maybe. Related directly to the joke at hand? Not so much. The gag is about "Stong Bad" itself, not "Srong Bad" "Stank Bag" or anything else. Stong Bad is the joke, the rest are just related sub-jokes and one-offs. But if you say so, I'm adding the template.--[[User:Jellote|Jellote wuz here]] 20:46, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
::The main joke here is the "Stong bad" not the variations thereof. As for people accidentally finding this page, that's what the disambiguation notice at the top is for. '''no rename'''. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 20:50, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:::That makes enough sense. I was thinking that the title was just referring to one of the names. [[User:Atarifanatic|Atarifanatic]] 22:58, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

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Some of these seem a bit extraneous. (I hope I'm using that word properly.) Do we really need these all? {{User:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!/sig}} 16:07, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:In what way they are irrelevant? Which ones in particular? I went over the table and couldn't find any costume that is unnecessary. {{User:E.L. Cool/sig}} 18:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::Homestar Runner without a head, without a body, without legs, without a head ''and'' without legs... do all those really need to be there? They're not really costumes per se... {{User:Shadow Scythe of Strongbadia?!/sig}} 17:58, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

== Kick the Can ==

What about sending the "costumes" (more or less "different looks") to either another page, or another section? It seems that, not only do "Kick the Can" costumes take up a lot of space in this, but, in my opinion, don't classify as "costumes." [[User:Atarifanatic|Atarifanatic]] 01:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

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This is a complete walkthrough for the game [[Dangeresque Roomisode 1: Behind the Dangerdesque]].

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==Walkthrough==
In order to complete this game, three actions must be performed. These actions can be seen at any time by looking at the case file on the noticeboard.
*Need photographic evidence of the attack
*Need physical evidence that was left behind
*Need this case file to have SOLVED stamp on it
The three actions can be performed in any order, but since the takeout container is involved in all three, some steps must be done in a specific order. The full walkthrough is shown below. Points earned for a particular step are indicated in bold.

===Open the Safe===
*Use the rug to have Dangeresque flip up a corner of it.
*Use the light switch. Dangeresque turns off the light, revealing glowing text under the rug. The blinds must be down for this to work.
*Look at the rug - the text is the combination for the safe. '''(20 points)'''
*Optional: Use the light switch again, if you don't want to spend the rest of the game stumbling around in the dark.
*Use the safe to open it.
*Get the camera from inside. '''(5 points)'''

===Get the Photographic Evidence===
*Attempt to get the takeout container. Dangeresque will be unable to take it, since it's stuck to the top of the safe. '''(5 points)'''
*Walk to the front of the room, and use the chair. Dangeresque will spin on it.
*Look at the card that came flying out. It has the phone number for the takeout place. '''(10 points)'''
*Walk to the phone and use it. Dangeresque calls the takeout place, who will send a technician (Pom Pom) who un-sticks the takeout container with a well-placed karate kick. '''(15 points)'''
*Get the takeout container. '''(5 points)'''
*Use the blind to open it, then place the takeout container in the window.
*Place the camera on the window to take a photo showing the dragon-man on the takeout container apparently assaulting the fat man (Strong Sad) in the building opposite. '''(30 points)'''

===Get the Physical Evidence===
*Get the takeout container again, then give it to Dangeresque, who eats it. '''(10 points)'''
*Get the coffee cup, then give it to Dangeresque, who (you guessed it) drinks it. '''(10 points)'''
*Walk to the front of the room and use the chair again. The combination of rotary motion with months-old coffee and Chinese takeout causes Dangeresque to throw up into a handy paper bag. '''(25 points)'''

===Get the Stamp===
*Walk around to the front of the desk and use it. Dangeresque kicks the desk, causing the drawer to pop out.
*Walk around to the other side of the desk and get the stamp. '''(5 points)'''
*Place the stamp on the sweet and sour sauce on top of the safe to ink it. '''(10 points)'''

===Solve the Case===
Now all that's left is to place the three pieces of evidence into the case file on the noticeboard. Place the photographic evidence '''(10 points)''' and the bag of whoozit '''(10 points)'''. This should make your full total of 170 points.

The hard part is the stamp, which you'll notice says "UN-SOLVED". We want it to say "SOLVED" — the whole "SOLVED" and nothing but the "SOLVED". How can we do this? Simple, stamp it so that the "UN-" part isn't on the document. Line up the stamp so that the hyphen crosses the left-hand edge of the page. Be careful, now — miss and it's Game Over, and Dangeresque goes to prison... until you click the mouse button, in any case, at which point time gets rewound and you get another shot.

With all three bits in place, Dangeresque hands the file to The Chief... until he realizes something's amiss, so it looks like Dangeresque is gonna have to jump...out the window.

{{Dangeresque}}
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==Source of plot!!!==

Nintendo Power: Issue 234: "...when Strong Bad's beloved game console- the Videlectrix Fun Machine- melts down when he's playing Limozeen's Hot Babelien Odyssey (a side-scrolling action game...). When Strong Bad discovers he doesn't have the money to get it repaired, he does the only sensible thing: he arranges a 'battle of the bands'..."

== Forum Link ==

How do you fix the link to the Telltale forum? {{User:Bad Bad Guy/sig}} 01:22, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

== Date ==

10/13
:According to whom? I can't find any info on this from Telltale or H*R.com. The date sounds highly reasonable, but we need a reliable source before we'll add it to the article. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 01:48, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

::Due to the fact that the date right now is the 22nd, there is only one monday left in october. Some people might say this doesn't prove anything, but nintendo only updates the wii shop channel on mondays, and it's less likely to see two SBCG4AP's in november, so that is the official date. [[Special:Contributions/204.191.74.245|204.191.74.245]] 03:00, 23 October 2008 (UTC) P.S. I'm Don't say jorb 101 but I'm not logged in.
:::Not quite, no. We still can't be sure it won't be delayed until November. Certainly, it seems likely it will be this upcoming Monday, but we won't document that until it comes from a reliable source. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 03:10, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

== LEAKED Gameplay! ==

See http://gamespotting.net/gameblog/sbcg4ap-baddest-of-the-bands-leaked-gameplay-footage/
: I'm not sure that's really ''leaked'' exactly. IGN has a video that's almost identical to it (not quite, though. There are some extra scenes, and it doesn't go all the way through the billy club dialogue.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:23, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

== Homsar ? ==

i watched the trailer and the GF for this episode and Homsar is not in it but it says he is here.
: Go to IGN and check the videos there. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:46, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
: PS. Those same videos, and the new one on Telltale's site, show I was wrong about SB being a member of Cool Tapes (when I removed a contrary mention of Cool Tapes from the page earlier), but the preview certainly made it look that way. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Spoilers of Extended Play ==

I found a video on youtube that showed major spoilers on the Episode, includes clothes, the Limozeen game, and some other gameplay about the band. It's a very spoilery video so be warned. --{{User:splashUru1}} 12:08 25 October 2008 (UTC)

== Linked pages ==

Let's add some of the pages we'll need here so we have convenient (red)links. These are the only ones I know of so far:

*[[Baddest of the Bands Walkthrough]]
*[[Baddest of the Bands Responses]]
*[[Baddest of the Bands Responses (House of Strong)]]
*[[Baddest of the Bands Responses (The Field)]]
*[[Baddest of the Bands Responses (Marzipan's)]]
*[[Baddest of the Bands Responses (Club Technochocolate)]]
*[[Baddest of the Bands Responses (Locker Room)]]

Note that I have NOT seen any evidence that the Teen Girl Squad is in this one. I didn't even notice a score for them on the scorecard. I'm not finished with the game yet (I only played for like an hour before work), though, so there could be more locations, or other pages that could come in handy. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 19:02, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

== Possible refrence to episode 1 ==

In episode 1's opening song some of the lyrics are "like a imploding star , like a burning car" maybe a reffrence to "The Best Album Cover Ever".
: I dare say that the only possible way it's ''not'' a reference is if they planned it in advance and put it into Episode 1 for exactly that reason, which would be kind of a reverse referense or something. It's already on the [[Homestar Ruiner]] page for that very reason. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

== Glitched Pac-Man ==

The way Strong Bad's game gets messed up reminds me of the way that one level on Pac-Man gets glitched up. Since I am not good at explaining it, [[Wikipedia:Image:Split_Screen_in_Pac_Man.gif|here is an image]]. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
*Except for the Fun Machine, the failure is distinctly different in method, as here it's supposed to be a failure of logic components within the device, rather than pure software error.

== Nonexistant Homestar Glitch ==

It seems that if you attempt to "examine" the turntable in Club Technocholate in Extended Play, Homestar will say something without actually being there.

== Wire to No-Wire ==

Something just occurred to me. You need the wire hanger to complete a puzzle. The puzzle is during the Battle Royale, but AFAIK, you can only get the wire from the Locker Room, which is inaccessible during the Battle Royale. What happens if you skip taking the wire? (Note that you ''can't'' skip getting the bleach, which is obtained in the same place and also mandatory during the Battle Royale - you need to use it earlier than that.) --{{User:Jay/sig}} 21:12, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:Y'know, I was wondering the same thing. This requires checking, but my theory for now is that it'd automatically give it to you. It does, after all, alter your inventory between the pre-Royale and Royale scenes. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 21:16, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:: I just tested it. Turns out that the Track remains on the map until you take the hanger, even after everything else disappears. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 03:59, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== Zeppelin reference ==

The teen girl (I forget which one) says "it's always the saaaame!" after she gets killed by "uncommunication breakdown"...somebody who's not me should write that in. [[Special:Contributions/75.69.165.163|75.69.165.163]] 18:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

==Baddest of the Articles==

I think we should have a [[Baddest of the Bands Bands]] article, or something in that vein. You know, like with [[Countries in Strong Badia the Free]]. {{User:Strongkinghomsarsmith/sig}} 23:22, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:Be '''bold''' and have fun! --{{User:Theyellowdart/sig}} 04:12, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

== Cheatday? ==

I just noticed that I have SBCG4AP Chapter 3, and I just watched cheatday. Well, cheatday has the Two-o Duo (as an easter egg)! So, anyway, should that be a remark, inside reference, etc., or is this just one of those things that don't go in the trivia spot? --[[User:Atarifanatic|Atarifanatic]] 00:28, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Not the 200th Email

2008-09-20T00:49:44Z

Atarifanatic: Not The 200th Email

{{watch|sbemail200.html}}
[[Image:notthe200themail.PNG|thumb|"Back of the Line!"]]

The Deleteheads are waiting for the 200th email, at the page error screen.

'''Cast (in order of appearance):''' {{Film|Strong Sad}},
{{Film|The Deleteheads}}

'''Places:''' [[Error Page]]

'''Date:''' September 18, 2008

'''Running Time:''' 0:30

'''Page Title:''' Page Load Error

== Transcript ==
''{A page that looks like an error page is showing. Strong Sad appears from the bottom.}''

'''Strong Sad:''' Oh no you don't! The Deleteheads started camping out for the sbemail 200 weeks ago!

''{Screen scrolls over to The Deleteheads, who have a tent and cooler.}"

'''Strong Sad:''' Back of the line!
''{Screen scrolls even further to reveal nobody else.}''

'''Strong Sad:''' Well, there's no one else here yet, so you can get behind us. We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on, if you want to join us, but don't even think about eating any Sun Chips! I packed them special!

''{Screen scrolls back to "Address Not Found" Screen}''

== Easter Eggs ==
*Clicking the "Try Again" button when the screen goes back to the "Address Not Found" screen restarts the whole thing.

== Fun Facts ==
===Explanations===
*A Sun Chip is a kind of multigrain chip by [[Wikipedia:HTTP Fritolay|Fritolay]].
*The "Address Not Found" Screen comes from Firefox, with plays on the "possible reasons".
===Trivia===
*Like the "Not 100th Email", the only way to get to this is by typing in the HTML file.

==See Also==
*[[Place ya bets!]]
*[[Page Load Error]]
*[[Not the 100th Email!!!]]

== External Links ==
*[[HR:sbemail200.html|watch "Not the 100th Email"]]
*[[HR:sbemail200.swf|view the Flash file for "Not the 200th Email"]]

[[Category: Strong Bad Email]] [[Category:Not Quite Strong Bad Emails]]

File:notthe200themail.PNG

2008-09-19T23:42:04Z

Atarifanatic: The screenshot to the sbemail200.

== Summary ==
The screenshot to the sbemail200.
== Licensing ==
{{web-screenshot}}

Strong Bad Email

2008-09-19T22:17:49Z

Atarifanatic: /* Not Quite Strong Bad Emails */

<div class="thumb tright"><div class="thumbinner" style="width:202px;"><div class="hovul" style="font-size:smaller;border-bottom:1px #CCC solid;margin-bottom:4px;padding-bottom:4px">[[hr:sbemail.html|Strong Bad Email menu]]</div>[[Image:sbemail_lappy2.png|200px|Strong Bad checks his email.]]<div style="padding-top:4px">Strong Bad checks his email.</div></div></div>
'''Strong Bad Email''', frequently shortened to '''sbemail''', is the most frequently updated feature of [[homestarrunner.com]]. It was originally a small feature introduced in 2001, in which [[Strong Bad]] would answer a fan-sent email and commonly mock the spelling and grammar of those who wrote to him. Although the animations were initially brief, the responses gradually grew to establish numerous [[inside jokes]], and [[running gags]] and catchphrases, as well as [[Strong Bad Email Spin-offs|spin-offs]], like [[20X6]], [[Teen Girl Squad]], [[Trogdor]], and even the main character [[Homsar]]. A typical Strong Bad Email will include numerous [[Easter egg|Easter eggs]] and other hidden material, often found at the ending screen. Many Strong Bad Emails, such as [[action figure]], [[japanese cartoon]], and [[isp]], are satirical views of particular aspects of popular culture.

__TOC__
{{clear}}

==Strong Bad Emails==

===[[Lappy 486]] Era===
''(November 2004 — present)''
<blockquote class="lappy email" style="width:90%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal">
<div>subject: sb_email menu</div>
<table class="emaillinks" style="color:#fff;background:none;width:100%">
<autocolumn cols="3" width="33%">
199. [[being mean]] new! 
198. [[magic trick]] 
197. [[your edge]] 
196. [[hiding]] 
195. [[love poems]] 
194. [[specially marked]] 
193. [[rated]] 
192. [[shapeshifter]] 
191. [[buried]] 
190. [[licensed]] 
189. [[pet show]] 
188. [[fan club]] 
187. [[winter pool]] 
186. [[environment]] 
185. [[nightlife]] 
184. [[diorama]] 
183. [[yes, wrestling]] 
182. [[business trip]] 
181. [[web comics]] 
180. [[slumber party]] 
179. [[pizza joint]] 
178. [[bike thief]] 
177. [[original]] 
176. [[hygiene]] 
175. [[concert]] 
174. [[mini-golf]] 
173. [[the paper]] 
172. [[more armies]] 
171. [[underlings]] 
170. [[rough copy]] 
169. [[from work]] 
168. [[your funeral]] 
167. [[the movies]] 
166. [[unnatural]] 
165. [[strong badathlon]] 
164. [[looking old]] 
163. [[what I want]] 
162. [[the chair]] 
161. [[4 branches]] 
160. [[coloring]] 
159. [[retirement]] 
158. [[cliffhangers]] 
157. [[trading cards]] 
156. [[road trip]] 
155. [[theme song]] 
154. [[keep cool]] 
153. [[redesign]] 
152. [[isp]] 
151. [[senior prom]] 
150. [[alternate universe]] 
149. [[candy product]] 
148. [[disconnected]] 
147. [[lady fan]] 
146. [[pop-up]] 
145. [[myths & legends]] 
144. [[narrator]] 
143. [[technology]] 
142. [[secret identity]] 
141. [[death metal]] 
140. [[highschool]] 
139. [[portrait]] 
138. [[space program]] 
137. [[bedtime story]] 
136. [[geddup noise]] 
135. [[lady...ing]] 
134. [[record book]] 
133. [[bottom 10]] 
132. [[modeling]] 
131. [[boring (really)]] 
130. [[do over]] 
129. [[garage sale]] 
128. [[rampage]] 
127. [[long pants]] 
126. [[best thing]] 
125. [[rock opera]] 
124. [[secret recipes]] 
123. [[origins]] 
122. [[dreamail]] 
121. [[part-time job]] 
120. [[radio]] 
119. [[animal]] 
</autocolumn>
</table>
</blockquote>
----

===[[Compy 386]] Era===
''(September 2002 — November 2004)''
<blockquote class="compy email" style="width:90%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal">Volume in drive C: has no label 
Directory of C:\sbemail\updated somedays 
<table class="emaillinks" style="color:#fff;background:none;width:100%">
<autocolumn cols="3" width="33%">
118. [[virus]] 
117. [[montage]] 
116. [[extra plug]] 
115. [[time capsule]] 
114. [[the facts]] 
113. [[pizzaz]] 
112. [[old comics]] 
111. [[other days]] 
110. [[for kids]] 
109. [[crying]] 
108. [[pom pom]] 
107. [[cheatday]] 
106. [[dangeresque 3]] 
105. [[replacement]] 
104. [[theme park]] 
103. [[haircut]] 
102. [[lunch special]] 
101. [[car]] 
100. [[flashback]] 
99. [[different town]] 
98. [[stupid stuff]] 
97. [[monument]] 
96. [[lackey]] 
95. [[the bet]] 
94. [[video games]] 
93. [[army]] 
92. [[kind of cool]] 
91. [[caffeine]] 
90. [[colonization]] 
89. [[local news]] 
88. [[couch patch]] 
87. [[mile]] 
86. [[no loafing]] 
85. [[2 years]] 
84. [[kids' book]] 
83. [[labor day]] 
82. [[impression]] 
81. [[date]] 
80. [[stunt double]] 
79. [[the process]] 
78. [[anything]] 
77. [[suntan]] 
76. [[sibbie]] 
75. [[funny]] 
74. [[privileges]] 
73. [[mascot]] 
72. [[crazy cartoon]] 
71. [[2 emails]] 
70. [[big white face]] 
69. [[personal favorites]] 
68. [[caper]] 
67. [[autobiography]] 
66. [[the show]] 
65. [[unused emails]] 
64. [[english paper]] 
63. [[fingers]] 
62. [[interview]] 
61. [[monster truck]] 
60. [[huttah!]] 
59. [[marzipan]] 
58. [[dragon]] 
57. [[japanese cartoon]] 
56. [[current status]] 
55. [[cheat talk]] 
54. [[morning routine]] 
53. [[comic]] 
52. [[island]] 
51. [[website]] 
50. [[50 emails]] 
49. [[theme party]] 
48. [[ghosts]] 
47. [[new hands]] 
46. [[your friends]] 
45. [[techno]] 
44. [[lures & jigs]] 
43. [[little questions]] 
42. [[action figure]] 
41. [[invisibility]] 
</autocolumn>
</table>
</blockquote>
----

===[[Tandy 400]] Era===
''(August 2001 — September 2002)''
<blockquote class="tandy email" style="width:90%;font-family:Verdana,Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;font-weight:normal"><div style="border:none;background:none;text-align:center;padding-left:17%"> FILENAME  - updated mondays</div>
<table class="emailgreenlinks" style="color:#0c0;background:none;width:100%">
<autocolumn cols="3" width="33%">
40. [[vacation]] 
39. [[property of ones]] 
38. [[helium]] 
37. [[dullard]] 
36. [[guitar]] 
35. [[sisters]] 
34. [[weird dream]] 
33. [[gimmicks]] 
32. [[flag day]] 
31. [[sugarbob]] 
30. [[12:00]] 
29. [[superhero name]] 
28. [[1 step ahead]] 
27. [[3 Wishes]] 
26. [[CGNU]] 
25. [[super powers]] 
24. [[the bird]] 
23. [[little animal]] 
22. [[sb_email 22]] 
21. [[cartoon]] 
20. [[spring cleaning]] 
19. [[tape-leg]] 
18. [[stand-up]] 
17. [[studying]] 
16. [[band names]] 
15. [[the basics]] 
14. [[duck pond]] 
13. [[i she be]] 
12. [[credit card]] 
11. [[i rule]] 
10. [[trevor the vampire]] 
9. [[i love you]] 
8. [[brianrietta]] 
7. [[halloweener]] 
6. [[depressio]] 
5. [[making out]] 
4. [[homestar hair]] 
3. [[butt IQ]] 
2. [[homsar]] 
1. [[some kinda robot]]
</autocolumn>
</table>
</blockquote>

==DVD Releases==

*Emails 1-160 have been released on the [[strongbad_email.exe]] 5-disc DVD series.

===DVD Emails===

The following emails only appear on the DVD set:

*[[Greeting Cards]] (Bonus Email #1)
*[[E-mail Birds]] (Bonus Email #2)
*[[Videro Games]] (Bonus Email #3)
*[[Family Resemblence]] (Bonus Email #4)
*[[Real-Live E-Mails]] (Bonus [[Puppet Stuff]] Email)
*[[Accent]] (Bonus Email #5)

==Podstar Runner Releases==
Beginning January 30, 2006, Strong Bad emails were released under a feature called [[Podstar Runner]]. They have featured popular [[Toons]], [[Teen Girl Squad|Teen Girl Squads]], and Strong Bad Emails in .m4v format. They are designed to be viewed on a Fifth Generation Apple [[Wikipedia:iPod|iPod]], but are workable on a variety of other portable media players. These emails are featured or have been featured through this service (in order of release, top left being the earliest, bottom right being the latest):

<table width="100%">
<autocolumn cols="4" width="20%">
*[[techno]]
*[[dragon]]
*[[japanese cartoon]]
*[[kids' book]]
*[[crying]]
*[[bottom 10]]
*[[caffeine]]
*[[virus]]
*[[guitar]]
*[[video games]]
*[[different town]]
*[[montage]]
*[[personal favorites]]
*[[sisters]]
*[[death metal]]
*[[theme park]]
*[[crazy cartoon]]
*[[army]]
*[[flag day]]
*[[trevor the vampire]]
*[[stunt double]]
*[[best thing]]
*[[caper]]
*[[mascot]]
*[[geddup noise]]
*[[isp]]
*[[alternate universe]]
*[[garage sale]]
*[[monster truck]]
*[[action figure]]
*[[radio]]
*[[spring cleaning]]
*[[replacement]]
*[[technology]]
*[[haircut]]
*[[animal]]
*[[highschool]]
*[[theme song]]
*[[mile]]
*[[looking old]]
*[[strong badathlon]]
*[[unnatural]]
*[[the movies]]
*[[your funeral]]
*[[from work]]
*[[rough copy]]
*[[underlings]]
*[[more armies]]
*[[the paper]]
*[[mini-golf]]
*[[concert]]
*[[hygiene]]
*[[original]]
*[[bike thief]]
*[[pizza joint]]
*[[slumber party]]
*[[web comics]]
*[[business trip]]
*[[yes, wrestling]]
*[[diorama]]
*[[nightlife]]
*[[environment]]
*[[winter pool]]
*[[fan club]]
*[[pet show]]
*[[licensed]]
*[[buried]]
*[[shapeshifter]]
*[[rated]]
*[[specially marked]]
*[[love poems]]
</autocolumn>
</table>

==Not Quite Strong Bad Emails==

The following shorts were originally associated in one way or another with the Strong Bad Emails. They are numbered by halves to show where they appeared chronologically in the list above. Numbers 99½B, 118½, and 158½ are not linked to from anywhere on the site.

*199½B. (When you go to the HTML File "sbemail200", there shows a page load error page, the default in Firefox, with the [[The Deleteheads]], who seem to be camping out. )
*199½A. [[Place ya bets!]] (Its HTML file is "sbemail199andahalf". In it, [[The Deleteheads]] try to predict what will be in Strong Bad Email #200.)
*193½B. [[The Homestar Runner Gets Something Stuck In His Craw]] (The reading of the story takes place after what appears to be a Strong Bad Email.) 
*193½A. [[SBCG4AP Advertisement]] (This email is an advertisement for a game that was in the making and never actually appeared on the Strong Bad Email page)
*191½. [[Rotten Eggs]] (A message made by the splattered rotten Easter egg reads, "Sbemail Next Week.")
*170½. [[Sbemail 169 Deleted Scene]] (A deleted scene from [[from work|sbemail 169]])
*158½. [[Lappynapped!]] (Messages on Strong Bad's answering machine, as the Lappy is missing.)
*152½. [[Weclome Back]] (Strong Bad tries to show an email he checked over summer vacation (in midair, no less), but hits "stop" instead of "record" on the video camera.)
*149½. [[Sbemail 150?!?]] ([[Strong Sad]] tries to get Strong Bad to do his 150th email.) 
*136½. [[Sick Day]] (A failed attempt at an email due to sickness striking the entire cast.) 
*127½. [[HomestarRunner.com PAY PLUS!]] ("The Email Show" is one of the pay-per-view features.)
*118½. [[Broken Compy Menu|Strong Bad Email?]] (Broken Compy Menu.) 
*99½B. [[Not the 100th Email!!!]] (Secret URL address for anyone who wanted a peek at Email 100 before it was released.)
*99½A. [[Puppet Time]] (A message was taped onto Puppet Compy's screen that read "Probably at a barbecue, from SB")
*68½. [[Lookin at a Thing in a Bag]] (A message was taped onto the Compy in the email menu that read "Looking at a thing in a bag" when the cartoon was released.)
*66½. [[Arcade Game]] (Homestar Runner reads Strong Bad's note he left on the Compy 386.)
*59½. [[Superbowl Dealie]] ([[The Paper]] reads "Due to the big game, the Strong Bad Email will be late this week.")
*55½. [[Decemberween_Email_Menu|Too Busy to Check E-mails]] (Typed on the Compy is "No emails on the holidays.")
*41½. [[King of Town Email]] ([[The King of Town]] tries to answer an email on his recently bought (but broken) Tandy 400.)
*36½. [[TV Time Toons Menu]] (Placing the mouse over Strong Bad Email will bring up a short, soundless email from Stu. See [[Wireless Bizness]].)

==Strong Bad Email Menus==

*1–32 [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemail_first.html Tandy 400 menu]
*33–34 [[Broken Tandy Menu]]
*35–40 [http://www.homestarrunner.kitkorp.com/sbemail_youguysokay.html Slightly damaged Tandy menu]
*41 [[HR:sbemail(vacation).swf|Vacation menu]]
*42–118 [[HR:sbemail.swf|Compy 386 menu]]
**Between 55 and 56 [[Decemberween Email Menu]]
**Between 118 and 119 [[Broken Compy Menu]]
*119–Current [[HR:sbemail_lappy.swf|Lappy 486 menu]]

==Milestones==
Whenever Strong Bad reaches an email milestone, such as 100 or 150, the email will be special or at least some note will be taken. Thus far, four emails have been considered milestones.

*50. [[50 emails]] — Strong Bad checks 50 emails in honor of it being his 50th email check.
*100. [[flashback]] — The email is done in widescreen. [[Marzipan]], [[Senor Cardgage]], [[Old Timey Strong Bad]], and [[Limozeen]] congratulate him on his 100th email. Upon the Compy indicating that he has checked 100 emails with a special screen, Strong Bad says "email" 100 times. [[Homestar]] says "Happy 100th birthday, Strong Bad".
*125. [[rock opera]] — features scenes and at least one word from all of Strong Bad's emails.
*150. [[alternate universe]] — Strong Bad goes into many alternate universes featuring alternate versions of himself, which at the end accompany him in a supergroup ballad. Called the "sesquicentennemail".

Frequently, a "teaser" toon is released a week before a milestone email in order to play off the anticipation for the upcoming milestone. The teaser toons so far have been [[Not the 100th Email!!!]] (teasing viewers hoping to view email 100 before it was released), [[Sbemail 150?!?]] (in which Strong Sad tries to convince Strong Bad to check email 150 and writes a proposed storyboard for it), and [[Place Ya Bets!]] (in which the Deleteheads speculate on what will happen in email 200).

==Fun Facts==
===Trivia===
*Some time during mid-2003, "updated mondays" on the main Strong Bad Email Menu changed to "updated somedays." Nothing like this is even noted in Lappy-era emails.
*On the Compy 386 menus, Strong Bad types "<tt>dir /p</tt>", a [[Wikipedia:DOS|DOS]] command used to list all the files in a directory, and to pause between each screen's worth of files.
*Not including Not Quite Strong Bad Emails, Strong Bad has checked 228 emails as of [[being mean]].
*It would take 9 hours, 31 minutes, and 19 seconds  to watch every Strong Bad email, including the DVD exclusives but excluding clickable Easter eggs. Including clickable Easter eggs, it would take 10 hours, 22 minutes, and 29 seconds. 
*Email #22, "[[sb_email 22]]", was actually made between emails 40 and 41. It was originally skipped and later made and released under the title 'the lost email' right before Strong Bad replaced his computer with the Compy 386.
*Strong Bad Emails make up about 60% of the toons on the site.
*Back in the Tandy 400 era (at least until July 2002), emailing Strong Bad would result in this automated response:
<blockquote>Thanks for your freakin email. I hope it's not stupid. 
Once I finish these swiss cake rolls I'll read it and if it's awesome enough, 
I'll answer it on the site. 
But if your email is terrible, then it gets R.E.D. alright. 
The Cheat Reads it, Strong Mad Eats it, and I Deletes it. 
[[HR:processing.html|Click Here]] to see us in action! 
Check back every Monday to see if your email has what it takes. 

Watch me while I'm awesome, 
Strong Bad</blockquote>

The link in the automated response leads to the [[Email Processing Room]].
*After [[Random Toon|random.bat]] was implemented, the email list comes from the [[Secret_Pages_XML_Source#Random_Toon_XML_File|rando.xml]] file. Before this, it was included in the Flash file.
*Occasionally, there is a [[Acknowledged Update Delays|lengthy gap]] between email updates. This is sometimes recognized at the start of the next email, as in [[army]], [[geddup noise]], and [[redesign]].
*[[butt IQ]], [[CGNU]], [[3 Wishes]], and [[what I want]] are the only emails with capital letters in their titles.
*Typing sbemail.swf in the address bar will take you to the Flash file for the [[Compy 386]] era.

===Remarks===
*At [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006|Flashforward 2006]], [[The Brothers Chaps]] gave a list of [[Flashforward 2006 Seattle - 28 Feb 2006#Pre-animation Process - 4:05 p.m.|five things not to email Strong Bad about]]. Additional information about which emails are selected were given in a later [[Late Nite JengaJam Interview - 4 Oct 2007#Email|radio interview]]
*During most emails, you see the back of Strong Bad's head when he sits in front of the computer, which is why he often starts a new line before the text reaches the right side of the computer's screen. However, on the Strong Bad Email menu, you don't see his head at all. This is probably so the viewers can use the bottom scroll button without anything in the way.
*During [[Lappynapped!]], [[retirement|retirement A]], and [[retirement|retirement B]], when the Lappy was kidnapped, it was still used for the Strong Bad Email menu.

==External Links==

*[[HR:sbemail.html|Strong Bad Email menu]]
*[[HR:sbemail_lappy.swf|View the Flash file for Strong Bad Email Menu]]
*{{pl|l=mailto:strongbad@homestarrunner.com Email Strong Bad}}

{{StrongBadEmailInfo}}
{{H*RNav}}
{{recenttoons}}

<noinclude>
[[Category:Strong Bad Email]]
[[Category:Lists]]
[[Category:Computer Files]]
[[Category:H*R Navigation]]
</noinclude>
{{subtitlesLinks|sbemail}}

Stinkoman 20X6 Walkthrough Level -0

2008-09-19T20:47:14Z

Atarifanatic: /* Stage -0.2 (Guide) */

==Level -0 - NEGATORY!==
''"A glitch takes our hero where no Stinko should Stink-go"'' 
Stinkoman is zapped into a wall, but escapes into the negative zone, where he faces bizarre challenges and glitches from previous levels.
===Stage -0.1 (Transcript)===

''{A field on Planet K is shown, with the right side taken up by a wall. Suddenly, lightning flashes, and Stinkoman appears inside the wall. He attempts to move, in vain.}'' 

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{subtitled}'' WHAT HAPPENS?! I'M SAD IN SIDE A WALL!!

''{Cut to the shadowy figure in his lair.}'' 

'''SHADOWY FIGURE:''' ''{subtitled}'' MUU HOO HAAHAA!! STINKOMAN WILL BE FOREVER TRAPPED SAD INSIDE THAT WALL!

''{The camera turns to show 1-Up on the left.}'' 

'''1-UP:''' ''{subtitled}'' YOU'RE MYSTERIOUS!!

''{Cut to a close-up of Stinkoman inside the wall.}'' 

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{subtitled}'' I'M SURE BY NOW I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU PEOPLE WHAT I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN THIS WALL IS ASKING FOR...

''{Stinkoman blasts a section of wall away, and runs out via the newly created path. Cut back to the shadowy figure's lair.}'' 

'''SHADOWY FIGURE:''' ''{subtitled}'' NOOOO! HE ESCAPED! AND THAT PATH LEADS STRAIGHT TO THE NEGATIVE ZONE!!

''{Cut to a close up of 1-Up.}'' 

'''1-UP:''' ''{subtitled}'' NEGATIVE ZONE?!?!

''{Alternating shots of 1-Up and the shadowy figure yelling. The level start scene is shown; however, instead of the standard start scene showing Stinkoman, it shows a jumble of 1-Up and Stinkoman, with the words "TRY LEVEL -0.1" at the bottom.}''

<pre>START PLAY!</pre>

===Stage -0.1 (Guide)===
[[Image:stinkoman_negatory.png|thumb|Twenty-Exty-Glitch??]]

*You start at the wall you blasted. Go forward and soon you'll leave the bit of land and will be walking on air. A Poorbt will appear and fire at you. Kill or ignore him and walk forward, where a Jaro and Gaspeau will be. Also, you'll fall off the air and land on the ground.
*Go to the edge and jump to the stone platform, and then to the ladder. Climb up it, take care of the Terrell, and continue forward.
**If you take the lower path, you will see a Protek that won't hurt you and a cloud of My Benj. Blast away.
*Jump to the cloud and jump or run to the conveyor belt before the cloud disappears. Jump to the ladder, climb it and fall to the stone platform below. Destroy the Biztar and continue.
*Walk off the edge, being careful of the Bendini Sister, and you'll land on trees.
*Challenge the Frotzer and go forward. You'll see a trapdoor that works in reverse. You can land on it while it's down, yet you'll fall when it's up. Jump past it and eliminate the Chorch. Jump past the assorted platforms to the rapidly changing platform below, but watch out for the Kolkaryu.
**Before going on, jump down into the ovens stacked on one another; there's a hidden capsule for you.
*Climb the ladder of ducks while avoiding the Stothos' fire and destroy the Grundy and Chorch up there. Continue on to the two platforms.
*Take them to the next area where you'll see a Drill and a switch like the one from level 4. Run onto the platform to be teleported.
*You'll land on a platform. Jump through the second one and get rid of the 3 Jaros. (If you look closely, you can see an Astromund jumping around at the bottom.)
**Ignore the discolored capsule off to your left — it's poisoned and hurts you instead of healing you.
*Climb the retractable ladder and jump on the large assortment of platforms to the two conveyor belts. The first one doesn't work and the second one works in reverse. Shoot the Biztars and My Benj. Progress forward, but watch out for the Piedmonts.
*You'll then come across 3 Lundfords lined up on top of each other. Go past them and the Porchis so you can defeat the Stobat. Then you'll meet a large assortment of Chorches, Greggos, and a Terrel. Kill them.
*There's a capsule ahead, but watch out, because again, there's a Gaspeau and a set of Bendini Sisters guarding it. Grab it and go forward to see a pile of Gokuls, with a blue Browntant on top, and a Pink Cham Cham under them. Avoid the Kolkaryu's bullets.
*Destroy everything that you can, since you can't reach the Pink Cham Cham, and walk through the lava-fall - it's fake, and won't hurt you. Shoot the Terrell and Grundy, then go up the retractable ladder and destroy the Terrell. Go to the array of ladders, and go to the first one there.
*Climb all the way up to the top, and you can stand on it. Jump forward to land on an invisible platform. Walk forward and you'll fall and land on a retractable ladder. Destroy the Chorch, jump to the next ladder, and destroy the Frotzer.
*Walk forward to walk on air, watching out for the Kolkaryu. Climb down the retractable ladder, and then down the duck ladder. When you go down the duck ladder, a switch platform from Level 4 will try to smack into you.
*Walk forward, avoiding the Postlethwaite's lightning. Defeat the Chorch and be sure to jump to land on the invisible platform because if you just walk, you will fall and lose a life. Watch out for the Bendini Sisters that are waiting. Go to the rapidly changing platform.
*Go to the set of trapdoors. Remember that they work in reverse, so jump when they're down and you'll land on them. Eliminate the Stobat and get the capsule he leaves behind.
*Jump over the Lundsfords and you'll land on a line of 1-Up heads. A Fullbide will charge at you too, so be careful. Continue. You'll see another Fullbide and a Browntant.
*Destroy them and walk forward to the collection of Old Sages, Sporks, Hash-Haws, and other deadly items, and you'll reach the invisible goal! -0.1 Complete!

===Stage -0.2 (Transcript)===
''{The same level start scene is shown with the words, "TRY LEVEL -0.2" at the bottom.}''

''{As the level begins, the following words are projected across the screen for a few seconds.}''
<pre>START PLAY!</pre>

===Stage -0.2 (Guide)===
[[Image:Stinkoman_20x6_-0.2_fridgemaze.PNG|thumb|Stove maze solution.]]
* As soon as you enter, you'll face a Stobat. Defeat him.
* Jump onto the first oven in the first row. Walk forward - the next oven isn't solid, so you'll fall into that. Jump onto the next oven, then continue jumping up ovens diagonally to the right.
* When you reach the top, a Kolkaryu is waiting for you. Jump to the platform near him to avoid him. To get the extra life, walk forward and then jump over the oven next to the one where the life is (a Fullbide will attack here). Go back to the platform. Walk forward and then jump over the next oven, to the one where the Chorch is waiting. Destroy the Chorch.
** The second oven after the platform isn't solid, and you'll fall below the wall of ovens. Don't panic — continue to the left, destroy the Gaspeaus, and jump back up.
* Walk to the oven next to the Lundsford. You'll fall to the bottom. Jump onto the next oven and continue on.
** You can also jump over the oven with the Lundsford on it to get a hidden capsule inside the oven on the right of the Lundsford.
* Run forward to the retractable ladder, and take it to the top.
* Jump on the cloud platform, and then jump to the stone platform as soon as possible, or you'll smack into the drill.
** You can stay on the right edge of the cloud platform to avoid the drill entirely.
* Jump past the other two platforms and back on land. Destroy the Browntant ahead and go up the ladder. Eliminate the Terrell and the My Benj there and get the capsule, but watch out for the flying platform.
* Jump onto the conveyor belt, then to the evaporating cloud, then to the stone platform. Now jump forward over the Pooru-Poorus — you'll land on the air. Walk forward until you fall and hit the platforms below you. Walk down the platforms and destroy or ignore the Astromunds. Then defeat the Gaspeau nearby.
* You should see a line of Rose Blakes. Make sure the last two are extinguished, then jump over the first two and quickly move forward.
* Now you'll see a series of switches from Level 4. Jump onto the first one to teleport. You'll land next to two more. Avoid/destroy the Uptant, then go on the teleporter on the left. Destroy the unnamed plant and go to the right teleport. Walk to your right and jump, trying to land on the right side teleport. There's only one in the next place, so take it, then take the next one too. The next set of teleports will be right on top of each other — walk into the set and jump, trying to hit the bottom one. Take the next teleport you see, then dodge the Stafulter and walk into the teleport on the ground. Jump off the evaporating cloud and get the capsule. Jump off the next platform, avoiding the column of My Benj.
** To get an extra life, instead of jumping off the platform, jump on the teleport above you, get the life, jump on the next teleport, climb up the duck ladder, and continue on.
* Take care of the Protek. Another set of Bendini Sisters is there, but they can't hurt you.
* Walk forward to see two Biztars with a Pink Cham Cham under them. Watch out for the flying Level 4 platform. Destroy the Biztars, the Fullbides, and the blue Browntant, but be careful of another flying platform.
* Jump on the moving platforms and go up to the clouds. You'll see some letters and three capsules below you on Old Sages. Walk forward, and you'll eventually fall through the clouds to the three capsules. Snag a capsule.
* A split second before you become Stinkoman-kabobs on the Old Sages, you'll trigger Ekersby. You're saved! -0.2 Complete!

===Level -0 Boss: Ekersby (Transcript)===
[[Image:Level8transcript.PNG|thumb|Negative Challenge!]]

''{Stinkoman walks to a pile of junk}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{subtitled}'' AND OTHER PILE OF JUNK. EVEN A NEGATIVE ZONE IS GETTING TO BE PREDICTABLE.

''{The area darkens}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{subtitled}'' FADE TO FIGHTING?!

''{As the round begins, the pile of junk moves, forming Ekersby. Stinkoman says his famous line out loud.}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' Are you asking for a challenge?

'''''After you defeat Ekersby...'''''

''{Stinkoman watches the boss explode}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{subtitled}'' HOW EASY. WAS THAT?

''{Close-up of Stinkoman}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{subtitled}'' I MIGHT EVEN SAY HE WAS A NEGATIVE CHALLENGE!!

''{A red glow flashes in the corner of the view}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{subtitled}'' HUH– RED BLINK; RED BLINK?

''{We see that the red glow is coming from one of Ekersby's Uptant eyes}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{subtitled}'' WHAT COULD IT MEAN?

''{The eye opens up to reveal a green screen. Pan Pan's and 1-Up's heads can be seen next to the red button}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{subtitled}'' IT'S A USEFUL DEVICE SHOWING 1-UP AND PAN PAN'S WHEREABOUTS. AND THEY'VE GOT THE RED BUTTON!

''{The words LEVEL 10 appear on the screen}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{subtitled}'' THEY'RE AT THE END OF LEVEL 10!!!

''{Close-up of Stinkoman}''

'''STINKOMAN:''' ''{subtitled}'' WHAT A BUMMER!! I'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH LEVEL 9 TO GET TO THEM! I'LL MAKE THEM PAY FOR RED BUTTONING ME!

===Level -0 Boss: Ekersby (Guide)===
*Ekersby is a jumble of random sprites from the other levels, with Uptants and Downtants for weapons.
*Watch the Lundsford on the right. When it lights up, it activates the fridge door, opening or closing it. When the fridge door is open, that's your cue to attack it. Hitting the [[ham]] delivers damage to Ekersby.
*After a hit, the door will open from the other side, blocking your beam, so you'll have to get to the other side to shoot Ekersby's ham-heart again.
*Jump on the green tile to teleport to the top. Avoid the Uptants and the sporks on his head by waiting for the Uptants to fire, walking to the Sporks, waiting for them, and running past.
*Go to the other side and wait for Ekersby to go to the other side. Climb down the ladder, avoiding the Downtants, and repeat. Don't try to kill the 'Tants, it doesn't work. Number of hits needed: 6.
*An alternative method is to run into Eskerby at the very beginning and jump when the 'tants shoot and face the ham and shoot, elimanating the need to teleport, but make sure you are not too close to the ham or this does not work.

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