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=Homestar Runner 20th Anniversary Show=
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What if we had quote boxes? Like at the top, or floating left/right Wikipedia-style... Ob'm know. I've added a lot to the tops of articles and sections (Oscar Wilde-style) and it might be nice to (a) standardize w/ a template (b) do something a little snazzier than blockquotes. Some rough style explorations made by editing notices:
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{{about|event}} {{for|toon shown at both events|Homestar Runner Goes For The Gold}}
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* The current quotes have been added for comparison. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:57, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
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* If we turn this into a template, the image sizes are inconsistent: Matt's image is 60px, SB's is 24px, and SS's is 36px.  I thought {{t|qotwheads}} could be of use but that's for [[Quote of the Week Character Heads|a completely different context]].
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** Ah, the template I was looking for was {{t|head}} but that can't be used either.  That said, I've made both head images 35px to see what they look like. --[[User:Stux|Stux]]
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* I've added earlier samples for comparison. --[[User:Stux|Stux]]
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* Regardless of the format we choose, I think creating a template that allows consistent quote formatting would be a good thing(TM).
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** That said, there are several questions that should be answered:
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** How do we handle quotes with multiple speakers? {{t|canonquote}} has at least one example.
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** This leads to a design decision that I think needs to be done early on: do we include the name of the speaker (as with the current "transcript" style format) or not?  In the transcript style, the speaker name is ''not'' a template parameter, it must be added by hand, but that allows us to link to the speaker however we want.  Otherwise, the speaker would most likely be a template parameter, but that breaks down if we have multiple speakers.
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** Do we have more examples of non-standard quotes that we can reference? --[[User:Stux|Stux]]
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=Alcohol=
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Would certainly be open to moving this to the HRWiki:Project space if it's something that other editors think is worth pursuing beyond my fiddlin' around. My thought process was to identify a very basic layout {{--}} i.e. what color/outline is the box, do we ''italicize'' or "enclose in quotes" or both or neither {{--}} and do basic problem solving to make sure it can work alongside a right-floating image thumb rather than solve for every case. I was mainly referencing how {{w|Template:Quote box}} on WP is used (i.e. for a phrase shared by only one speaker) to avoid getting caught up in how to deal with more complicated scenarios. As far as non-standard quote examples, some articles to look at include [[Batman]],  [[How do you type with boxing gloves on?]], and the UMFM snippets on most [[main character]] pages. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 20:45, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
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==Appearances==
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===General===
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*[[The Luau]] {{--}} Among the phrases of "{{wp|Polynesia}}n Prose" that [[Strong Sad]] recites is "{{wp|Kahlúa}} and Creme", an alcoholic drink.
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*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 5.0]] {{--}} Coach Z and [[Bubs]] leave messages while drunk.
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*[[Nighttime Driving Type Game]] {{--}} Features "Drunk Drivers".
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=[[Shark-Tooth Bubs]]=
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*[[Everybody to the Limit]] {{--}} Strong Bad is seen sitting in an armchair with a glass of liquor.
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[[Image:Shark-Tooth Bubs.png|thumb|"I'm going to go throw up at your house!"]]
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*[[Ballad of The Sneak]] {{--}} As mentioned in the song, [[The Sneak]] drinks bootleg [[Wikipedia:Moonshine|hooch]], a homemade whiskey usually produced and/or sold through illegal methods.
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**Also, there is a [[Wikipedia:Editorial cartoon|political cartoon]] featuring the subjects of {{wp|prohibition}} and the [[Wikipedia:Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act|Hawley-Smoot Tariff]].
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''From [[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|"A Date with Homestar Runner" at New York University, 2005]]:''
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*[[Because, It's Midnite]] {{--}} The song mentions a "champagne glass".
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<blockquote>'''[[MATT CHAPMAN]]:''' We were getting these stuffed animals of The Cheat made. To show us that they were the right people for the job, this company in Hong Kong made some little six-inch plush dolls of our characters. Most of them they got pretty good! And then... Bubs they just completely misinterpreted.</blockquote>
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*[[Limozeen Thanksgiving E-Cards]] {{--}} [[Gary Palaroncini]] says, "Kids under six, don't drink and drive!"
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*[[lures & jigs]] {{--}} Strong Bad attempts to "lure" fish into his and Coach Z's boat by telling them that they have "a keg" (to which he immediately appends "of worms and phytoplankton").
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'''Shark-Tooth Bubs''' is a plush doll prototype of [[Bubs]] that sharply deviates from his character design. Rather than two [[mismatched eyes]], one black and one blue with a white ring, he has two black eyes and a large protruding white-ringed horn; his teeth are pointed and shark-like rather than rectangular.
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*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 5]] {{--}} The [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Olda Boys|Olda Boys]] are seen with a cooler of "college drinks," likely another name for alcohol.
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*[[radio]] {{--}} [[Homestar Runner]] throws a [[Wikipedia:Old fashioned glass|rocks glass]] while yelling "[[Wikipedia:Highball|High-ball!]]"
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*[[space program]] {{--}} During the [[The Strong Badian Administration of Some Aluminum Foil|SBASAF]] slide show, the narrator says, "Somebody get that man a highball".
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*[[myths & legends]] {{--}} [[Bubs]] states that the [[Bear holding a Shark]] [[Wikipedia:Shot glass|shot glasses]] are "always popular with the kids".
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=Shark-Tooth Bubs=
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*[[your funeral]] {{--}} Strong Bad describes his funeral as being "off the wagon". "Falling off the wagon" is an idiom referring to a recovering alcoholic's relapse into alcoholism.
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[[Image:Shark-Tooth Bubs.png|thumb|"I'm going to go throw up at your house!"]]
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*[[hygiene]] {{--}} Gene/Strong Bad's mother claims to have a "grown-up headache", a likely reference to a {{wp|hangover}}.
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<div class="boilerplate metadata toccolours" style="margin-left: 1em; padding-left: 1em; border-style: hidden hidden hidden solid; background: #FFF">
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*[[nightlife]] {{--}} Bubs runs the bar at [[Club Technochocolate]] and Strong Bad orders an expensive drink in an eye dropper.
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*[[Peasant's Quest]] {{--}} [[Baby Lady & Her Baby|The Baby]] is said to go on to develop a mead problem later in life.
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*[[That A Ghost]] {{--}} [[Fat Dudley]] is caught drinking hooch.
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|style="padding-right: 10px;" |  [[File:Matt closeup.png|60px|MATT!]]
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*[[Biz Cas Fri 2]] {{--}} Homestar is almost certainly hung over, mentioning that he partied so hard the night before he can't remember what he did and falls asleep under Strong Bad's desk.
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| ''We were getting these stuffed animals of The Cheat made. To show us that they were the right people for the job, this company in Hong Kong made some little six-inch plush dolls of our characters. Most of them they got pretty good! Bubs they just completely misinterpreted.''
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*[[Commandos in the Classroom]] {{--}} One of the [[Blue Laser Minion]]s asks [[Fightgar]] "to put these wine coolers down your pants... er, down your headband".
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*[[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]] {{--}} The [[Minor Teen Girl Squad Characters#Scotsmen|Scotsmen]] are seen standing around a beer barrel with 3 Xs on it (when regarding beverages, X is a symbol for an [[Wikipedia:Proof (alcohol)|alcoholic proof]] of 50; multiple X's indicate multiples of 50).
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|colspan=2 style="text-align:right" | {{--}} [[Matt Chapman]]<br><small>[[NYU Talk - 1 Mar 2005|"A Date with Homestar Runner", New York University]], 2005</small>
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*[[Fan Costumes '06]] {{--}} Strong Bad comments that The Cheat's [[hot mom]] is giving out frozen "margaracheatas".
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*[[Sickly Sam's Big Outing]] {{--}} A jug of hooch can be found in [[Sickly Sam]]'s stomach.
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*[[Strong Badia the Free]] {{--}} Strong Bad can order a Cold One and a green drink from Bubs at [[Club Technochocolate]], both of which he proceeds to drink.
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*[[Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective]] {{--}} The shelf of the old club is stocked with neon colored "Ones", which Strong Bad comments "are all old and warm, and stuffed with light bulbs apparently".
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'''Shark-Tooth Bubs''' is a plush doll prototype of [[Bubs]] that sharply deviates from his character design. Rather than two [[mismatched eyes]], one black and one blue with a white ring, he has two black eyes and a large protruding white-ringed horn; his teeth are pointed and shark-like rather than rectangular.
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*[[Hooked on Decemberween]] {{--}} [[Brainkrieg]] claims if they don't get video games for Decemberween, they'll spike Uncle Edgar's eggnog.
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*[[I Killed Pom Pom]] {{--}} Marzipan mentions that she makes homemade kombucha.
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The plush toy was created by a company in {{w|Hong Kong}}, during the pre-production of the [[Kick The Cheat]] dolls. To demonstrate their ability to adapt [[The Cheat]] to three dimensions, the toy company produced sample plush dolls of [[Strong Bad]], [[Homestar Runner]], [[Marzipan]], and Bubs (the first two of which [[Puppet Character Variations#Not Quite Puppets|have also been shown]]). Though the first three were created largely on-model, the manufacturer "[[theme park#Commentary Transcript|misinterpreted pretty much everything]]" about Bubs's [[dumb animal characters|odd design]], resulting in the inclusion of [[fangs]] and a horn.
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*[[Characters from Yonder Website]] {{--}} The [[Smarty Juice]]'s effects imply that it contains alcohol (or at least has [[Wikipedia:Fermentation|fermented]]).
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===Beer===
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*[[Homestarloween Party]] {{--}} [[Pom Pom's girls]] are seen with beer, liquor, and other related paraphernalia.
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*[[Dancin' Bubs]] {{--}} Background two includes a broken beer bottle and a beer mug.
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= [[Easter egg]] =
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*[[super powers]] {{--}} Strong Bad uses the diamond on his head to pop the cap off of a [[Cold One]].
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==Decompiled Flash Easter Eggs==
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*[[theme party]] {{--}} Strong Bad suggests getting "a couple of kegs of cheap cold ones" for the party. Also, one of the Easter eggs features a "Spring Drink'n Formal 2002" T-shirt with a picture of a [[bear]] wearing [[Cool Shades|sunglasses]], holding a beer mug, along with [[Wikipedia:Calvin and Hobbes|Calvin]], who appears to be passed out.
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''From [[Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007|a 2007 talk at the Georgia Tech library]]:''
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*[[time capsule]] {{--}} An Easter egg features [[Minor Drinks#coach_z_ale|Coach Z Ale]], a brand of (presumably alcoholic) ale that is either produced or endorsed by [[Coach Z]].
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<blockquote>'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' People are poking around, they decompile our Flash files and look at stuff. So we've started adding a few things here and there for the nerds that do that stuff. [[Senorial Day|There's one]] where these two Homestars appear {{--}} like, it appears that there's two Homestars, you can barely see the edge of his feet on that side of the frame, that's in the actual cartoon. But then, to make it consistent in the universe, one of them has a mustache. But you only see it if you decompile the Flash thing and be like, ''"Oh, that's Homestar with a mustache."''</blockquote>
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*[[theme song]] {{--}} In one of the clips from the "unaired pilot", Strong Bad is seen filling his mouth with a Coldson Lite and a coffee via a beer helmet.
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*[[rough copy]] {{--}} Homestar advertises his "Malinko Drinko", claiming it is "crystal clear like domestic beer".
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=== Appearances ===
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*[[business trip]] {{--}} Homestar and Strong Bad have ordered beer called "[[Cold One#expenseones|Expen$e Account Ones]]".
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[[Image:By strong bab age 5.PNG|thumb|Who actually made all those fence drawings...]]
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*[[Date Nite]] {{--}} Homestar and Strong Bad are shown drinking [[Cold One#oldone|'old Ones]] after Marzipan and [[The Cheat]] left for [[Marzipan and The Cheat's Relationship|their date]].
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*All [[Halloween Teasers]] {{--}} The teasers feature messages hidden behind the [[silhouettes]] of the [[characters]], visible upon attempting to view the [[Halloween costumes]] with a Flash decompiler (presuming that they are obscured versions of the full image).  
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*[[Where's an Egg?]] {{--}} One of the items the suspects have is a mug of beer.
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*Email [[different town]] {{--}} Marzipan has a secondary hairdo when decompiled.
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*[[hremail 3184]] {{--}} Bubs and Coach Z watch the explosion of the [[Lappy 486]] in lawn chairs, with beer cans.
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*Email [[myths & legends]] {{--}} When the ancient fence drawings are viewed outside the border, the words "by strong bab age 5" can be found.
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*[[Poker Night at the Inventory]] {{--}} [[Strong Bad]] mentions that he heard the Cold Ones were pretty good at The Inventory (causing Tycho to mock "[[Ages|aren't you like, ten]]?")
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*[[sloshy - No-stalgia]] {{--}} [[sloshy]] mentions "[not] meetin' old friends for beers", while the backup singer would "still like to get beers if we can".
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*[[Disk 4 of 12 - FriendlyWare]] {{--}} One of the prizes of the Match game (first seen in a [[@StrongBadActual]] Tweet on {{prs|1337678165557252096|12|Dec|2020}}) is a six pack of [[Wikipedia:Coors Brewing Company|Coors]] (alternately referred to by Strong Bad as Cold Ones).
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*[[parenting]] &mdash; Two of the "real family restaurants" that Strong Bad considers taking his pudding baby to are a micro-brewery and a craft distillery.
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==Decompiled Flash Easter Eggs==
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===Cognac===
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<div class="boilerplate plainlinks" style="margin: 1em; padding: 1em; border: 1px solid #ccc; background: #F9F9F9;">People are poking around, they decompile our Flash files and look at stuff. So we've started adding a few things here and there for the nerds that do that stuff. [[Senorial Day|There's one]] where these two Homestars appear {{--}} like, it appears that there's two Homestars, you can barely see the edge of his feet on that side of the frame, that's in the actual cartoon. But then, to make it consistent in the universe, one of them has a mustache. But you only see it if you decompile the Flash thing and be like, "Oh, that's Homestar with a mustache."
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*[[modeling]] {{--}} "Colognac" is a [[portmanteau]] formed by combining "[[Wikipedia:Cognac (drink)|cognac]]", a distilled liquor, and "[[Wikipedia:Eau de Cologne|cologne]]", a fragrance.
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<div style="text-align:right">{{--}} [[Matt Chapman]] <small>([[Georgia Tech - 26 Apr 2007|"Homestar Runner comes to the GT Library!"]], 2007)</small></div>
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*[[The House That Gave Sucky Treats]] {{--}} Coach Z raps about {{wp|Hennessy}}, a brand of cognac.
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</div>
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===Martinis===
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*[[Thorax Corporation]]:
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=== Appearances ===
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**[[Thorax:staph.html|Our Gentle Staph]] page contains the statement, "Click on a man to read his drunken ramblings."
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[[Image:By strong bab age 5.PNG|thumb|Who actually made all those fence drawings...]]
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**[[Thorax:stardom.html|Leg Delabor's page]] includes an animated GIF of that at one point shows a martini.
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*All [[Halloween Teasers]] {{--}} The teasers feature messages hidden behind the [[silhouettes]] of the [[characters]], visible upon attempting to view the [[Halloween costumes]] with a Flash decompiler (presuming that they are obscured versions of the full image).  
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**[[Thorax:stardom2.html|Leg Delabor's "Paths to Total Stardom" page]] states that he was drinking while thinking of new PRODUKTs<!--Remember, this is not a typo.-->.
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*Email [[different town]] {{--}} Marzipan has a secondary hairdo when decompiled.
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*[[Meet Marshie]] {{--}} [[Marshie]] recommends [[Fluffy Puff Marshmallows]] over a variety of other consumables visualized on a blackboard, one of which is a [[Wikipedia:Martini (cocktail)|martini]].
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*Email [[myths & legends]] {{--}} When the ancient fence drawings are viewed outside the border, the words "by strong bab age 5" can be found.
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*[[That Time of Year]] {{--}} Strong Bad comments about martinis going to people's heads.
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*[[Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 14.2]] {{--}} [[Marzipan]] is drinking a "wheatgrasstini", a [[portmanteau]] of wheatgrass and martini.
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*[[senior prom]] {{--}} Strong Bad mentions consuming "[http://web.archive.org/web/20070516184115/http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0308c&L=ads-l&D=1&F=&S=&P=6102 okratinis]", martinis served with a pickled okra pod instead of an olive.
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*[[SBCG4AP Dev Blog]] {{--}} One of Strong Bad's edited screenshots includes a "high class bikini [lady]" with a martini.
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=[[Abdi LaRue]]=
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===Mouthwash===
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[[Image:Compy Some Kinda Robot.PNG|thumb|Roll that beautiful email footage!]]
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*[[The Best Decemberween Ever]] {{--}} Coach Z drinks mouthwash, offers Homestar some, and passes out at the end of the cartoon as Homestar sings "Coach Z's been drinking Listerine", an antiseptic mouthwash that contains alcohol.
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''From a [[@StrongBadActual]] Tweet from [[@StrongBadActual Tweets 2020#1250876792174514176|16 April 2020]]:''
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**Coach Z is also seen spiking the punch with Listerine in [[senior prom]].
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*[[Decemberween Short Shorts]] {{--}} In the last short, Coach Z is seen inebriated by Listerine.
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Abdi is real! An early fan I actually had to ask to specifically email me because nobody knew I had an email address yet!
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===Wine===
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</blockquote>
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*[[making out]] {{--}} In order to get the sender's boyfriend to [[Making Out|make out]] with her, [[Strong Bad]] proposes lighting "a few candles and maybe having a glass of wine".  
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In 2001, '''Abdi LaRue''' made [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] history as the first of hundreds to have an email personally answered by [[Strong Bad]]. Future [[Strong Bad Email]]s would make brief tribute to this unknown figure.
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*[[the show]] {{--}} The character on the "We'll be right back" screen holds a wine glass.
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*[[different town]] (Easter egg) {{--}} A drawing of Eh! Steve! drinking from a wine glass can be seen.
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{{clear}}
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*[[dangeresque 3]] {{--}} Strong Bad asks the viewer not to throw "full wine bottles" at the screen.
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*[[montage]] {{--}} [[Strong Bad]] and the [[Wagon Fulla Pancakes]] drink wine on a boat in the lake.
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=Abdi LaRue=
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*[[rock opera]] {{--}} Strong Bad swirls a glass of wine as he informs the viewers that he is "pleasant".
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[[Image:Compy Some Kinda Robot.PNG|thumb|Roll that beautiful email footage!]]
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*[[Videlectrix]] {{--}} The [[Videlectrix:videlectrix gallery.html|Game Gallery]] has a picture of a glass of wine and cheese.
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<div class="boilerplate metadata toccolours" style="margin: 1em; border-style: hidden; background: #fff;">
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*[[New Boots]] {{--}} [[Powered by The Cheat]] Strong Bad made The Cheat's favorite: a picnic plate with wine and a baguette.
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*[[Drive-Thru]] {{--}} Strong Bad asks "Inviso-Jeeves" for a bottle of Château Prétende 1974, presumably wine.
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*[[Baddest of the Bands]] {{--}} A bottle of wine sits on a table at Club Technochocolate.
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|style="padding-right: 10px;" |  [[File:qod 2 - strong bad.PNG|35px|Stro Bro]]
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*[[Disk 4 of 12 - Vampire's Castle]] {{--}} After finding wine and [[cheese]] in the castle study, Strong Bad suggests that the Vampire will be having a wine tasting later. After winning the game, he and The Cheat have a wine tasting in the Alchemist's laboratory with the members of the metal band Ratt.
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| "Abdi is real! An early fan I actually had to ask to specifically email me because nobody knew I had an email address yet!"
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|colspan=2 style="text-align:right" | '''{{--}} [[Strong Bad]]''', {{postref|1250876792174514176|16|Apr|2020}}
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In 2001, '''Abdi LaRue''' made [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] history as the first of hundreds to have an email personally answered by [[Strong Bad]]. Future [[Strong Bad Email]]s would make brief tribute to this unknown figure.
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=Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe=
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:'''''Comment:''' this one uses {{t|canonquote}} under the hood!''
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{{clear}}
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[[Image:Strong Badia Bubs' Stand.PNG|thumb|Is Bubs' right? Or is it left?]]
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{{canonquote}}
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'''Inconsistencies''' large and small occur throughout the toons portraying the [[Homestar Runner universe]]. The [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work is primarily created independently by [[The Brothers Chaps]], without use of a dedicated style guide or {{w|Script supervisor|continuity supervisor}}, allowing for discrepancies to accumulate over [[Timeline of Homestar Runner|the 20-plus years of production]].
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Furthermore, Homestar Runner relies heavily on whimsical, surreal, and absurd humor. Much like comedic inspirations ''[[Looney Tunes]]'' or ''[[The Three Stooges]]'', toons are largely independent of one another; though some elements remain as constants, various minor facets of settings or characterization may be changed or ignored to better tell a joke or set a scene. Because Homestar Runner is not narrative-driven, complete consistency and total continuity are not goals and very minor inconsistencies are common between cartoons. The site's [[FAQ]] recommends that fans remember "[[TVTropes:Main/MST3KMantra|it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it]]."
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{{clear}}
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=[[Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe]]=
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:'''''Comment:''' these are earlier samples from the page's history''
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<blockquote>''There's no— there's no style guide, or continuity— we don't have a continuity person working on set.''
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:&mdash; [[Matt Chapman]], [[geddup noise]] commentary</blockquote>
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<blockquote>''We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.''
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:&mdash; [[Strong Sad]], [[Page Load Error]]</blockquote>
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<blockquote>''There's no style guide. We don't have a continuity person working on set.''</blockquote>
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:{{--}} [[Matt Chapman]], [[geddup noise]] commentary
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<blockquote>''We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.''</blockquote>
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:{{--}} [[Strong Sad]], [[Sbemail 200 Fakeout]]
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:'''''Comment:''' here's the flag day quote with two speakers and multiple lines (from {{t|canonquote}})''
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''From the [[flag day]] [[flag day#Commentary Transcript|commentary]]:'' <blockquote>'''[[MIKE CHAPMAN]]: '''We're not very consistent with our scale.<br/>'''[[MATT CHAPMAN]]:''' Yeah... We should make a style guide.<br/>'''MIKE CHAPMAN:''' ''You'' can make a style guide.<br/>'''MATT CHAPMAN:''' Yeah, ''you'' make one, more like.
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:'''''Comment:''' might as well go for broke and include all the other quotes from {{t|canonquote}})''
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''From the [[geddup noise]] [[geddup noise#Commentary Transcript|commentary]]:'' <blockquote>'''[[MATT CHAPMAN]]:''' There's no style guide. We don't have a continuity person working on set.</blockquote>
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''From a {{postref|ID=1200983950707101696|day=30|month=Nov|year=2019}}:'' <blockquote>'''[[STRONG BAD]]:''' If you’re watching/playing my stuff for the canon, you might be doing it wrong.</blockquote>
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''From [[Sbemail 200 Fakeout]]:'' <blockquote>'''[[STRONG SAD]]:''' We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.</blockquote>
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''From the [[FAQ]]:'' <blockquote>'''Q:''' I noticed a mistake or inconsistency in one of your cartoons!! AHHH!<br/>'''A:''' It was either done on purpose or it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it.</blockquote>
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''From a {{postref|ID=1160753651637465088|day=11|month=Aug|year=2019}}:'' <blockquote>'''[[STRONG BAD]]:''' The more ye searcheth for canon in mine universe, the less canon ye shall findeth.</blockquote>
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{{clear}}
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=Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe=
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[[Image:Strong Badia Bubs' Stand.PNG|thumb|Is Bubs' right? Or is it left?]]
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{| style="padding: 1em; background: Ivory;"
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|rowspan=2 style="padding-right: 10px;" |  [[File:qod 3 - strong sad.PNG|35px|I probably could...]]
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| "We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us."
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|style="text-align:right" | '''{{--}} [[Strong Sad]]''', [[Sbemail 200 Fakeout]] <small>(2008)</small>
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'''Inconsistencies''' large and small occur throughout the toons portraying the [[Homestar Runner universe]]. The [[Homestar Runner (body of work)|Homestar Runner]] body of work is primarily created independently by [[The Brothers Chaps]], without use of a dedicated style guide or {{w|Script supervisor|continuity supervisor}}, allowing for discrepancies to accumulate over [[Timeline of Homestar Runner|the 20-plus years of production]].
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Furthermore, Homestar Runner relies heavily on whimsical, surreal, and absurd humor. Much like comedic inspirations ''[[Looney Tunes]]'' or ''[[The Three Stooges]]'', toons are largely independent of one another; though some elements remain as constants, various minor facets of settings or characterization may be changed or ignored to better tell a joke or set a scene. Because Homestar Runner is not narrative-driven, complete consistency and total continuity are not goals and very minor inconsistencies are common between cartoons. The site's [[FAQ]] recommends that fans remember "[[TVTropes:Main/MST3KMantra|it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it]]."

Current revision as of 20:45, 1 July 2025

What if we had quote boxes? Like at the top, or floating left/right Wikipedia-style... Ob'm know. I've added a lot to the tops of articles and sections (Oscar Wilde-style) and it might be nice to (a) standardize w/ a template (b) do something a little snazzier than blockquotes. Some rough style explorations made by editing notices:

  • Comments:
  • The current quotes have been added for comparison. --Stux 19:57, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
  • If we turn this into a template, the image sizes are inconsistent: Matt's image is 60px, SB's is 24px, and SS's is 36px. I thought {{qotwheads}} could be of use but that's for a completely different context.
    • Ah, the template I was looking for was {{head}} but that can't be used either. That said, I've made both head images 35px to see what they look like. --Stux
  • I've added earlier samples for comparison. --Stux
  • Regardless of the format we choose, I think creating a template that allows consistent quote formatting would be a good thing(TM).
    • That said, there are several questions that should be answered:
    • How do we handle quotes with multiple speakers? {{canonquote}} has at least one example.
    • This leads to a design decision that I think needs to be done early on: do we include the name of the speaker (as with the current "transcript" style format) or not? In the transcript style, the speaker name is not a template parameter, it must be added by hand, but that allows us to link to the speaker however we want. Otherwise, the speaker would most likely be a template parameter, but that breaks down if we have multiple speakers.
    • Do we have more examples of non-standard quotes that we can reference? --Stux

Would certainly be open to moving this to the HRWiki:Project space if it's something that other editors think is worth pursuing beyond my fiddlin' around. My thought process was to identify a very basic layout — i.e. what color/outline is the box, do we italicize or "enclose in quotes" or both or neither — and do basic problem solving to make sure it can work alongside a right-floating image thumb rather than solve for every case. I was mainly referencing how Template:Quote box on WP is used (i.e. for a phrase shared by only one speaker) to avoid getting caught up in how to deal with more complicated scenarios. As far as non-standard quote examples, some articles to look at include Batman, How do you type with boxing gloves on?, and the UMFM snippets on most main character pages. -- Bleu Ninja 20:45, 1 July 2025 (UTC)


[edit] Shark-Tooth Bubs

"I'm going to go throw up at your house!"

From "A Date with Homestar Runner" at New York University, 2005:

MATT CHAPMAN: We were getting these stuffed animals of The Cheat made. To show us that they were the right people for the job, this company in Hong Kong made some little six-inch plush dolls of our characters. Most of them they got pretty good! And then... Bubs they just completely misinterpreted.

Shark-Tooth Bubs is a plush doll prototype of Bubs that sharply deviates from his character design. Rather than two mismatched eyes, one black and one blue with a white ring, he has two black eyes and a large protruding white-ringed horn; his teeth are pointed and shark-like rather than rectangular.

[edit] Shark-Tooth Bubs

"I'm going to go throw up at your house!"
MATT! We were getting these stuffed animals of The Cheat made. To show us that they were the right people for the job, this company in Hong Kong made some little six-inch plush dolls of our characters. Most of them they got pretty good! Bubs they just completely misinterpreted.
— Matt Chapman
"A Date with Homestar Runner", New York University, 2005

Shark-Tooth Bubs is a plush doll prototype of Bubs that sharply deviates from his character design. Rather than two mismatched eyes, one black and one blue with a white ring, he has two black eyes and a large protruding white-ringed horn; his teeth are pointed and shark-like rather than rectangular.

The plush toy was created by a company in Hong Kong, during the pre-production of the Kick The Cheat dolls. To demonstrate their ability to adapt The Cheat to three dimensions, the toy company produced sample plush dolls of Strong Bad, Homestar Runner, Marzipan, and Bubs (the first two of which have also been shown). Though the first three were created largely on-model, the manufacturer "misinterpreted pretty much everything" about Bubs's odd design, resulting in the inclusion of fangs and a horn.

[edit] Easter egg

[edit] Decompiled Flash Easter Eggs

From a 2007 talk at the Georgia Tech library:

MATT CHAPMAN: People are poking around, they decompile our Flash files and look at stuff. So we've started adding a few things here and there for the nerds that do that stuff. There's one where these two Homestars appear — like, it appears that there's two Homestars, you can barely see the edge of his feet on that side of the frame, that's in the actual cartoon. But then, to make it consistent in the universe, one of them has a mustache. But you only see it if you decompile the Flash thing and be like, "Oh, that's Homestar with a mustache."

[edit] Appearances

Who actually made all those fence drawings...
  • All Halloween Teasers — The teasers feature messages hidden behind the silhouettes of the characters, visible upon attempting to view the Halloween costumes with a Flash decompiler (presuming that they are obscured versions of the full image).
  • Email different town — Marzipan has a secondary hairdo when decompiled.
  • Email myths & legends — When the ancient fence drawings are viewed outside the border, the words "by strong bab age 5" can be found.

[edit] Decompiled Flash Easter Eggs

People are poking around, they decompile our Flash files and look at stuff. So we've started adding a few things here and there for the nerds that do that stuff. There's one where these two Homestars appear — like, it appears that there's two Homestars, you can barely see the edge of his feet on that side of the frame, that's in the actual cartoon. But then, to make it consistent in the universe, one of them has a mustache. But you only see it if you decompile the Flash thing and be like, "Oh, that's Homestar with a mustache."

[edit] Appearances

Who actually made all those fence drawings...
  • All Halloween Teasers — The teasers feature messages hidden behind the silhouettes of the characters, visible upon attempting to view the Halloween costumes with a Flash decompiler (presuming that they are obscured versions of the full image).
  • Email different town — Marzipan has a secondary hairdo when decompiled.
  • Email myths & legends — When the ancient fence drawings are viewed outside the border, the words "by strong bab age 5" can be found.

[edit] Abdi LaRue

Roll that beautiful email footage!

From a @StrongBadActual Tweet from 16 April 2020:

Abdi is real! An early fan I actually had to ask to specifically email me because nobody knew I had an email address yet!

In 2001, Abdi LaRue made Homestar Runner history as the first of hundreds to have an email personally answered by Strong Bad. Future Strong Bad Emails would make brief tribute to this unknown figure.

[edit] Abdi LaRue

Roll that beautiful email footage!
Stro Bro "Abdi is real! An early fan I actually had to ask to specifically email me because nobody knew I had an email address yet!"
— Strong Bad, @StrongBadActual tweet (16 Apr 2020)

In 2001, Abdi LaRue made Homestar Runner history as the first of hundreds to have an email personally answered by Strong Bad. Future Strong Bad Emails would make brief tribute to this unknown figure.

[edit] Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe

Comment: this one uses {{canonquote}} under the hood!
Is Bubs' right? Or is it left?
From the geddup noise commentary:
MATT CHAPMAN: There's no style guide. We don't have a continuity person working on set.

Inconsistencies large and small occur throughout the toons portraying the Homestar Runner universe. The Homestar Runner body of work is primarily created independently by The Brothers Chaps, without use of a dedicated style guide or continuity supervisor, allowing for discrepancies to accumulate over the 20-plus years of production.

Furthermore, Homestar Runner relies heavily on whimsical, surreal, and absurd humor. Much like comedic inspirations Looney Tunes or The Three Stooges, toons are largely independent of one another; though some elements remain as constants, various minor facets of settings or characterization may be changed or ignored to better tell a joke or set a scene. Because Homestar Runner is not narrative-driven, complete consistency and total continuity are not goals and very minor inconsistencies are common between cartoons. The site's FAQ recommends that fans remember "it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it."

[edit] Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe

Comment: these are earlier samples from the page's history
There's no— there's no style guide, or continuity— we don't have a continuity person working on set.
— Matt Chapman, geddup noise commentary
We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.
— Strong Sad, Page Load Error
There's no style guide. We don't have a continuity person working on set.
— Matt Chapman, geddup noise commentary
We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.
— Strong Sad, Sbemail 200 Fakeout
Comment: here's the flag day quote with two speakers and multiple lines (from {{canonquote}})
From the flag day commentary:
MIKE CHAPMAN: We're not very consistent with our scale.
MATT CHAPMAN: Yeah... We should make a style guide.
MIKE CHAPMAN: You can make a style guide.
MATT CHAPMAN: Yeah, you make one, more like.
Comment: might as well go for broke and include all the other quotes from {{canonquote}})
From the geddup noise commentary:
MATT CHAPMAN: There's no style guide. We don't have a continuity person working on set.
From a @StrongBadActual tweet (30 Nov 2019):
STRONG BAD: If you’re watching/playing my stuff for the canon, you might be doing it wrong.
From Sbemail 200 Fakeout:
STRONG SAD: We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us.
From the FAQ:
Q: I noticed a mistake or inconsistency in one of your cartoons!! AHHH!
A: It was either done on purpose or it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it.
From a @StrongBadActual tweet (11 Aug 2019):
STRONG BAD: The more ye searcheth for canon in mine universe, the less canon ye shall findeth.

[edit] Inconsistencies within the Homestar Runner universe

Is Bubs' right? Or is it left?
I probably could... "We're gonna play "Name That Inconsistency" later on if you want to join us."
— Strong Sad, Sbemail 200 Fakeout (2008)

Inconsistencies large and small occur throughout the toons portraying the Homestar Runner universe. The Homestar Runner body of work is primarily created independently by The Brothers Chaps, without use of a dedicated style guide or continuity supervisor, allowing for discrepancies to accumulate over the 20-plus years of production.

Furthermore, Homestar Runner relies heavily on whimsical, surreal, and absurd humor. Much like comedic inspirations Looney Tunes or The Three Stooges, toons are largely independent of one another; though some elements remain as constants, various minor facets of settings or characterization may be changed or ignored to better tell a joke or set a scene. Because Homestar Runner is not narrative-driven, complete consistency and total continuity are not goals and very minor inconsistencies are common between cartoons. The site's FAQ recommends that fans remember "it's just a cartoon and you probably shouldn't worry about it."

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