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== decline in use ==
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''It has been [[HRWiki talk:Main page redesign|suggested]] that the Main Page be redesigned. Feel free to use [[HRWiki:Main page redesign|its project page]] for proposed redesigns.''
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Has anyone else noticed that the wiki is declining in use?  The talk pages on the emails aren't nearly as big as they used to be.  Infact, i checked a good sampling of emails and the number of times accessed on the talk pages, and back around the 100-130 range they were 6-7 thousand views, but the last 10 or 15 have been only 2-3 thousand.  Please don't try and say that there are 3-5 thousand people viewing the talk pages 6 months or a year after they're out.  Any idea whats going on? -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 16:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
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== Featured content of the day (or whenever) issue ==
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:Well, it's an interesting question. We did have that baby break this summer, and it's possible we still haven't really gotten back up to the level we held before (It's dot com has suggested this idea to me a few times on IRC). Other than that, we may be just be going through a slow period for other reasons I can't think of. Interestingly, this past email rush has been one of the biggest I can remember, with lots of talk page discussion and even a STUFF frenzy. So, who knows what will happen next. Anyway, there's my thoughts; others may have more ideas. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 17:39, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
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::Homestar Runner's popularity has been going downhill ever since the Trogdor-Peasant's Quest pinnacle (2003-2005). HRWiki seems to have peaked in early 2006. I think it's because nothing new has taken the world by storm as much as Trogdor did, so people are slowly losing interest as they move on to different things. Entertainment shows can't hold many people's attention forever. Power Rangers, Rugrats, Spongebob... you know what I mean. —[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 17:56, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
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I noticed that the trogdor 08 link to "watch" links to trogday.html, and not trogday08.html is this a known issue? {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 13:04, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
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:Fixed. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:48, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
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==Wiki font==
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== Discussions ==
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Why does the Wiki use a different font from that of Wikipedia? [[User:124.180.248.253|124.180.248.253]] 10:24, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
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:Because this is not Wikipedia. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 15:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
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::Our not being a Wikipedia has nothing to do with it. The font we use, Verdana, was especially designed for computer monitors to be readable at small sizes and is widely considered to be one of the best fonts for online use. — [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
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== Singularized pluralizations ==
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There are a lot of talk page discussions happening on this wiki. The problem is, this wiki is not very active, so such discussions rarely get consensus and very few things get done. (That's why I'm {{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Links&diff=777176&oldid=777175 always}} {{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Puppet_Character_Variations&diff=prev&oldid=776839 reviving}} {{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Homestar_Runner_20th_Anniversary_Show&diff=prev&oldid=775801 old}} {{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Teenage_Variation&diff=prev&oldid=776233 discussions}} with a phrase like "I still agree with this.") I think there should be some way to keep track of all the ongoing discussions. Maybe a <nowiki>[[HRWiki:Discussions]]</nowiki> page or something to keep these discussions from becoming inactive. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:37, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
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:I still agree with this. <small>(See? That proves my point!)</small> {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 06:17, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
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::I also agree with this. <small>(You have a good point!)</small> {{User:Minecraft lover147/sig}} 04:58, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
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::There's [[HRWiki:Open Discussions]] - not really active, but since it's directly linked from The Stick it could be revived easily. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 21:40, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
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Soo... that's not a very good title for such a page, and i can't think of a good one, but i think we should have a page on such a thing. examples; "it sold like '''hotcake'''" and "the '74s was the prime of my dating '''year'''" I'm sure there are other times that something usually pluralized is said in singular. Anyone have a good idea for a name? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:40, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
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== Aquabats Kickstarter Cameo ==
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:How about [[Deliberately Poor English]]? {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 15:05, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
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Homestar Runner makes an appearance in this Aquabats Kickstarter video
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::No, it's not actually poor english, it's more that it's commonly said in plural but here they're talking in singular... by the dna evidence, there was only one, and coach z is implying that he only dated in one year. Not poor english, just sad people... {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbfRQBFC3hk&t=0s]
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:::I fail to see how that doesn't qualify as deliberately poor english -[[User:Jdhannan|Jdhannan]] 04:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
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::::Actually, I understand DeFender's argument in that the examples he gave are not grammatically incorrect (almost), which is what I'd consider, at first, to constitute poor english (the first setence I think should've read "it sold like ''a'' hotcake" to be 100% grammatically correct -- someone please correct me if i'm wrong).  However, poor english can also constitute english that is stylistically bad, like mine, like Strong Bad's.  Therefore, I think it is withing the scope of [[Deliberately Poor English]] to list such examples. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 06:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
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:::::Again, it's a different joke than poor english. It's clearly its own type of running gag. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 13:32, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
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::::::I agree with DeFender; it's a particular kind of joke, not merely poor English. I also agree with him that "singularized pluralizations" is not a very good commando name. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:45, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
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:::::::Then, again i ask, what WOULD be a good commando name? {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 16:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
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::::::::Firebert!  Ahem.. the question is a difficult one.  Unpluralized plurals ?  {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 16:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
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:::::::::Before we go to the trouble to think of one, do we have a third example for the running gag? &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:50, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
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== Redesign of Main Page for Welcome Page Project ==
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== February 21? ==
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It was suggested by [[User:Trey56|Trey56]] on [[Category_talk:International_welcome_pages]] that a discussion about changing the front page layout is needed, so I figured I get the ball rolling.  With the new international welcome pages coming together, they will have to be linked on the front page.  To me, the logical place to place the links in a single line between the Main Menu navigation and the Browse/What's New boxes, perhaps with a yellow box around it.  I believe [[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] was dummying out some different possible configurations.
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My feeling is the multilingual links should be easy to find, especially for those that are interested but not the strongest English skills, but at the same time be aware that the main page is already pretty crowded.  Any thoughts about this process? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 00:21, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
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Why does the Main Page say that the newest Skills of an Artist was released on February 21 when it was released this month? [[Special:Contributions/76.184.27.104|76.184.27.104]] 20:23, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
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:This needs to be done at some point or another. We can set up a mock up at someone's userpage, for experimenting with. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 00:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
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:My bad. I probably copy-pasted it when updating and forgot to change the date. Thanks for bringing it to my attention~  --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:34, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
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::I decided to try out a few different layouts using [[User:Sysrq868/mainpagebox|Sysrq868's suggestions]]:
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::* [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512390 Single line, yellow box]
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::* [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512391 Single line, green box ver 1]
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::* [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512392 Single line, green box ver 2]
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::* [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512393 Larger yellow box, at the bottom]
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::* [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512396 Larger yellow box, at the top] The only way I got this version to work is with the extra space between the subtitle box and the Browse/What's New boxes.
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::What do you think, sirs? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 00:47, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
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== Two Questions ==
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:::Nicely done! I think I'm preferring the single line boxes. And what about putting them right at the top? Like so:
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{{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Jurvy-Skat&curid=18745&diff=777714&oldid=777337&rcid=740575 These}} {{p|l=http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Peasant%27s_Quest_Preview&curid=890&diff=777715&oldid=777710&rcid=740576 two}} edits raise two questions concerning [[HRWiki:Standards|wiki standards]].
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:::*[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512405 Single line, at the very top]
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:''See [[HRWiki talk:Standards#Linking to articles with disambiguation in the page title|HRWiki talk:Standards → Linking to articles with disambiguation in the page title]]
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:::This way, it doesn't break the flow of the current page. Obviously, we'd have to fix that huge linebreak under the box ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:01, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
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:''and [[HRWiki talk:Standards#Retroactive names in transcripts|HRWiki talk:Standards → Retroactive names in transcripts]]
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::::Now that I see it, I think I like it at the very top better.  The main problem I found with the putting the languages navbar under the Main Menu line was the fonts would have to be adjusted, since it overpowered the small caps of Main Menu. (and no, I don't mind if others try out different configurations on my mock up) {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:10, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
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::::[http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512413 Fix the line break like this?] {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 01:12, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::::Awesomeness. How about making it even shorter? [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512425 like this].{{User:Loafing/sig}} 01:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::::Here are a few of mine, a lot simpler...
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:::::* [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&oldid=512417 In with the Featured Article area]
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:::::* [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&oldid=512418 Below What's New?]
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:::::* [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&oldid=512419 Up with the Main Menu]
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::::: {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 01:25, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::::: Of those, I think I like the one up with the Main Menu the best.  The other layouts tend to get lost in the overall page.  Having said that, I kinda like having a box or something to draw the eye quickly to that section.  Perhaps using the Small caps format, but having a box around languages? Something [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512464 like this]?  Again, the issue is spacing; I couldn't draw the box around just the second line with space between, nor can I eliminate the extra line underneath. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 03:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
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We want the international links to catch the eye of people who need to see them, but they shouldn't have undue salience over the English-language elements of the page. This is, after all, an English site. Thus we look for the balance. I think the links under the featured article or under the what's new box are too subtle, but I think a big yellow banner at the top is too much. My suggestion is that we should go outside the box and overhaul the main page completely. We've had this overall design for a while, and its probably due for a makeover. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
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:Woohoo! Maybe we should have that done... {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 03:17, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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::And [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&oldid=512748 here it is]. If we want, we could probably alter it more, in terms of graphics. I was only looking for the layout right now, with a little bit of coloring. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 05:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::I like it, although I think it looks a bit... chaotic. The yellow box at the top seems maybe a bit too big. I really like that bar on the right though. {{User:GuardDuck/sig}} 05:28, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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::::It looks fine on IE, but it's completely broken on Firefox. At this stage, it doesn't make sense to make it work for every browser, of course, but maybe it helps if designers say which browser one should use to watch their suggestions in full glory ;-){{User:Loafing/sig}} 05:33, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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::::It looks fine on IE, Safari. I see what you mean about FF, though. I don't know what to do about that, though. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 05:45, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::::It's a good start, but it puts way too much emphasis on the top yellow box, and has too much vacant space. The most important thing on the main page is the what's new box (and the what's new picture), so any proposed redesign needs to take that into account. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 15:17, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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So, I totally missed this one, but I'll say my opinions that I think might matter to whoever will do this Main Page redux. Firstly, I think that if we are going for somekind of a box for the welcome links, it should match with the colors of the welcoming pages: <span style="color:#FC0; font-weight:bold;">#FC0</span> border, <span style="color:#FFFFCC; font-weight:bold;">#FFFFCC</span> background. Secondly, I really do think it should be a box, to sort of seperate it from the other, English content. On no account should a foreign user need to scroll for the international links, and they should not [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&oldid=512419 "sink in"]. In fact, looking at that menu version, it took me about 6 seconds to find the links, I don't know where my eyes should focus. Remember, the international users that stumble across this website '''do not expect''' these links, and thus they should be very visible for people unaware. In short: No scrolling, no sinking, no linking. But that last one's not so widely enforced. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 09:39, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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== Some questions we would like to ask about... ==
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:I took [[User:Techgeekmbg|Techgeekmbg]]'s suggested layout and made few changes.  I like the side bar, but I flipped the What's New and Featured Articles sections.  I then shameless stole [[Wikipedia:|Wikipedia's]] front navigation.  The result is [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512891 this layout].  Colors and font sizes could be adjusted, but does offer having the languages available immediately without being overpowering.  Any ideas? {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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Hi there, I'm a stranger who wants to ask you some questions.
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:: Further refinement: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Wbwolf/MainMock&oldid=512902 debolding languages and giving them a yellow background], per [[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]]'s suggestion. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 17:35, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::I don't think we need to redesign the whole main page. We should just make one little box that will hardly make the main page look different at all. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 17:38, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::: I've taken the code and modified it to make the Featured Article and What's New side by side. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&oldid=512905 here]. For a reason I don't know, the two titles do not line up perfectly. And all of the layouts with that "Features sidebar are all messed up on Firefox. Sigh. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 17:44, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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::::: [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&oldid=512917 Here's my new version.] {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 18:09, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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::::::Maybe we could just have something like that subtitle box that's on toon articles. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 18:50, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::::::You mean like a sidebar box? That would still require the user to scroll. And I bet no-one would like it to be placed high enough that scrolling wouldn't be necessary. --[[User:Sysrq868|Sysrq868]] 22:14, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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::::::I like the latest three column design, Tech, but my main concern would be the order.  I dunno, but I think that the "What's New" should be on right edge, and the Features column would work better on the left. Though, I find [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:It%27s_dot_com/Main_Page&oldid=513113 It's Dot Com's latest effort] impressive. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 23:54, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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Here are [[User:It's dot com/Main Page|my attempts]] at a different layout. Ignore the fact that there's no color yet. Browse the recent history for some variations. Comments welcome on the talk page. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 23:20, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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1) When will ALL the old Flash pages turn to HTML5?
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:Personally, I like the layout, but if you guys want to change it, change it. For a version that doesn't drastically change anything, here is [[User:Super Martyo Brother/Main Page|my version]]. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 23:41, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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::For a minimal change, I think that's the best one so far, but the front page hasn't had a significant change since [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&direction=prev&oldid=86533 May 2005], so it's overdue for a major refresh. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 23:54, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::I've got a variation of mine, with 2 columns, vuewable [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&oldid=513143 here]. It still has some obvious bugs, though. I'm working on them, but if someone could help me, thanks will be given. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 01:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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::::Fixed the error, I was missing a <nowiki></div></nowiki>. [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User:Techgeekmbg/Main_Page&curid=38715&oldid=513187 link]. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 02:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::::TechGeek: I like it a lot. Only critique I have is I'd prefer the languages to slide under the Welcome snippet. But it's your design. --{{User:Super Martyo Brother/sig}} 03:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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::::::Of the lot, I prefer Dot Coms clean and orderly approach, and I don't really like any of the others, seeing as they're really, really messy and make us look like a bunch of...well, inexperienced Wiki-ers. If Dot Coms one was more colourful, then I might even like it to be the new main page, but in reality, I prefer just having the first green bar on the current page.--{{User:Slipstream/sig}} 03:34, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::::::Just remember, colors aren't important right now. I like Dot Com's layout, except for one thing: the title iembedded into the page. I think the title should be alone, so it is emphasized. {{User:Techgeekmbg/sig}} 15:23, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
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== Talk Page Archives ==
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2) When are you going to UNBAN IP addresses who "committed" persistent vandalism?
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Could someone teach me how to archive pages like [[Talk:Jibblies 2]], or are sysops the only members allowed to create archives? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 20:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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3) If Flash is dead, are you going to cancel HomestarRunner.com ?
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:You do not need to be a sysop. Create a page with a title patterned after existing archives. Copy the content from the talk page to the archive page - do it from the edit mode so you carry all formatting. Then remove that content from the talk page and add a link to the archive, and the archive should link to the talk page too. Be sure you do not move any active discussion to the archive page. I think that's about it, if not someone will add. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 22:04, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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::But I don't think that Jibblies 2 needs to be archived. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 22:13, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::I think it's okay too &mdash; especially since it's such a new toon. Many of the discussions are probably still pertinent. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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4) Why wouldn't we see ANY updates from 2011 to 2014?
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::::Can we archive it now? How many messages should each page contain? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 03:44, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::::Usually around twenty, but we still really don't have a need to. You'll notice this talk is archived because it has over 450 topics. I honestly don't think it's out of hand at all. &mdash; {{User:Lapper/sig}} 03:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
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::::::Yeah, the only real reason to archive a page is if it's not only long but we also think it's going to get substantially longer in the future. Now that the toon is no longer the newest kid on the block, it's not likely to see as much activity. Plus, the talk page is long''ish'', but it's not ''that'' long. I don't think requiring an extra click to see the older topics does much good in this case. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:05, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
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== Deleted Article Template vs New Template ==
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5) Could y'all please tell us what email The Brothers Chaps have?
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I think we should create a template for a merged article rather then putting a deleted page template if it's been merged. See [[Talk:The Dapper Swindler]]. {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 22:29, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
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--[[Special:Contributions/83.185.35.154|83.185.35.154]] 18:37, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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:1) We don't know. Ask [[the Brothers Chaps]].
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:2) Never. Why should we?
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:3) You'll have to be more specific as to what that means exactly. We aren't involved with homestarrunner.com, so we can't take down someone else's website. And The Brothers Chaps are planning to give the site a HTML5 update, so they won't take it down.
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:4) Kids, creative burnout, side projects, etc. See [[HRWiki:Hiatuses]] for more details.
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:5) Their email address used to be brotherschaps@homestarrunner.com, but it was removed from the site's [[Email]] page, so it seems [[@StrongBadActual]] is now their primary contact method.
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:Hope this helps! {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 22:33, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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:Not a bad idea &mdash; I {{p|l=http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=Template%3Adeletedtalk&diff=515570&oldid=513723 changed}} {{t|deletedtalk}} so that it can serve both purposes &mdash; hopefully it'll be more versatile now. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 22:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
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::Concerning the answer #2, why never? --[[Special:Contributions/83.185.35.154|83.185.35.154]] 22:50, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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::Should we used a separate category for merged pages versus deleted ones or not? It seems there is a greater number of merges compared to deletions so that set of pages will grow faster. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 00:22, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::To reduce the risk of a repeat offender. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 23:32, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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::::THAT repeat offender is way worse than CE5, aren't we right? --[[Special:Contributions/83.185.35.154|83.185.35.154]] 23:36, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Look, I'm not sure what your issues are, but the simple truth is that the best thing for you to do is behave like someone who has never even heard the name "Maudi Algabban" (we are not fooled, we know who you are) and has literally zero curiosity about the name or the user's history, while also showing no particular interest toward all the things you show far too much interest over (such as the Pyongyang reference, the hiatuses, and the possibility of homestarrunner.com being taken down) and never, ever, even for a moment, even consider writing loud yelling, swearing posts demanding people unblock you and give you answers to questions we have no way of answering. Also, make constructive Wiki edits (that means not vandalism, with or without scare quotes), not just Talk page chatter. Basically, you need to start over completely and pretend you are not and were never you and do not care about you - and that doesn't mean to insult yourself, it means ''do not mention'' yourself. You've built up far too much bad karma, so it's very likely that even the slightest hint that you are you will be treated with immediate suspicion, and likely result in further blocks. And if you think this is unreasonable, perhaps what you really need to do is to find a way to end your obsession with this Wiki. You've been pulling these bizarre stunts for literal years. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:50, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::Personally, I don't think there's a need to create separate categories. This would be consistent with the consolidation of the {{t|tbd}}, {{t|merge}}, etc. and templates and corresponding categories into  {{t|talktobediscussed}} and [[:Category:Articles for Discussion]]. Perhaps the category could be more aptly named, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 01:41, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
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::::::I must tell you all that I'm NOTHING but a stranger, but if you would like to send some ANGRY emails to him, his email address is ''-redacted-'' . Maudi MUST be punished and he's WAY the worst contributor on Homestar Runner Wiki! LET'S GET HIM!!!! --[[Special:Contributions/83.185.35.154|83.185.35.154]] 23:57, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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::::::: *sigh* I tried. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 23:59, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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== Everything Else Easter Eggs ==
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== Netiquette w/r/t interviews on defunct sites ==
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So we have 1 less section stub to deal with when a wiki member gets Everything Else 3 and confirms which toons have commentaries, could someone give me instructions on how to unlock the Easter Eggs on [[Everything Else, Volume 1]]? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 04:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
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As I [[HRWiki:WikiGnome|clean up]] various pages on the site I'm finding that many cited interviews and links are dead and gone.
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:''See [[HRWiki talk:Standards#Interviews on defunct sites|HRWiki talk:Standards → Interviews on defunct sites]]''
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== Upgrade ==
 
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So, what does this baby do now? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 20:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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== https ==
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:You can find everything by just clicking on that link at the [[#Top|top]] of the page. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 20:58, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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== Holiday Changes ==
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Hi! Can you make this site secure please, https. Thanks kindly!
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Here's my idea: You know for Halloween, we redo the wiki and change the logo and backround. Well, I was thinking for Holidays such as Valentines Day, St. Patrick's Day and Decemberween (Also Christmas), we could the exact same thing with a different theme. What do you think? {{User:Sam the Man/sig}} 23:30, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
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:In the past, we've done this for Christmas/Decemberween, and I'd guess we'll likely do it again. For other holidays, though, it would be overkill. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 23:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::I have literally no idea what you mean by that. -[[Image:Baby strong bad.png|20px]][[User talk:Minecraft lover147|<span style="color:#00ab33;">Minecraft</span><span style="color:#734e00;"> lover147</span>]] 04:53, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
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== Wiki facts ==
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==YouTube channel?==
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Maybe you could consider adding the HomestarRunner YouTube channel to the new content watchlist, since that's where TBC seems to be doing most of their work, now?
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I think we should get rid of any facts that mention something about this wiki (like on [[Fat Bluebird]]). Anyone else think so? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 13:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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ToaJuaraevo01(Forgot how to sign)
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:Nope, in the few cases where we mention the wiki, it's only because TBC themselves did. It makes sense to. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 14:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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::To sign, just put four tildes after your post (<code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>). {{User:Lira/sig}} 16:20, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
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::Well, what about [[Field Day Intro]]? I never thought we needed that fact. {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 14:49, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::If you just want your name, like this:[[Image:Baby strong bad.png|20px]][[User talk:Minecraft lover147|<span style="color:#00ab33;">Minecraft</span><span style="color:#734e00;"> lover147</span>]], you just put 3 tildes after your post (<code><nowiki>~~~</nowiki></code>). If you want to do your name ''and'' the time, do the aforementioned 4 tildes. To do ''just'' the time, like this: 05:11, 9 February 2020 (UTC), do 5 tildes (<code><nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki></code>).
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:::I agree, and removed that. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 15:00, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::<small>This post has been posted by [[Image:Baby strong bad.png|20px]][[User talk:Minecraft lover147|<span style="color:#00ab33;">Minecraft</span><span style="color:#734e00;"> lover147</span>]]. The time it was posted is 05:11, 9 February 2020 (UTC).</small>
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:I disagree. YouTube is really more of a dumping ground for all the old Flash stuff that is still available on the site, but might not be should the Flash plug be pulled. And though I prefer to avoid YouTube, I don't think the Homestar Runner YouTube channel has been updated in months. [[website|Because YouTube is a place where absolutely nothing happens]]. I would mention that most new content is now posted on Twitter, but much of it doesn't qualify as full toons that demand full attention. (This may change, but not in the foreseeable future). -- [[Special:Contributions/68.37.43.131|68.37.43.131]] 13:35, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
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== My Baby Got Stole ==
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::There actually is SOME original content on there, if you bother to look. {{User:ToaJuaraevo01/sig1}} 04:12, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
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:::What exactly do you mean "new content watchlist"? YouTube-exclusive content is already listed and documented in numerous places. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 07:38, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
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They just removed the Bear-Holding-a-Shark hoddie! Is that worth mentioning in the "recent updates"?
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== Redesign ==
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:No, we typically only add additions and new stuff. Removals happen all the time, and aren't ever mentioned. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 20:04, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
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== Login Successful: Now a HRWiki Template ==
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I was just looking at the [[HRWiki:Main page redesign]], and it had something entitled, "On this day..." for H*R stuff that happened on that day in history. I like the idea of that, but when I looked on it, it had stuff for February 9th. Where I live, it's still February 8th. I know this wiki is centered around UTC, but it could be very confusing for someone who ''doesn't'' know that. -[[Image:Baby strong bad.png|20px]][[User talk:Minecraft lover147|<span style="color:#00ab33;">Minecraft</span><span style="color:#734e00;"> lover147</span>]] 04:50, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
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Umm... when I log in, I get:
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==Sick Homestar, BRAH==
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Why is homestar sick looking on the main page button? Found no other place to post this question --[[User:Jeffjman|Jeffjman]][http://www.scratch.mit.edu/users/jeffjman][[File:Baby_strong_bad.png‎|30px]] 16:04, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
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:World events, Jeff. World events. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 17:12, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
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::How long exactly will the COVID-related logos continue to show up? It's been long enough now - if it was even necessary in the first place. Yes, we get it. Current events, the end times have almost come, we almost danced the Conga of the Apocalypse, etc. We get that. I think everyone who visits this wiki is aware of that by now. I think we'd all be aware of that ''even if'' this wiki's logo didn't shove it in our faces every few page loads (though I do appreciate that it is no longer EVERY page load like it was at first).  And I don't think any of us like being reminded of it - especially not this long after the fact. I'm sure most of us visit this wiki to take our minds ''off'' of the bad news for a while, not to be reminded of it by the logo. But it's your call, I suppose. I do hope I'm not coming across as rude - I just want to give my two cents on the matter since no one has brought up this point of view yet. [[Special:Contributions/76.184.23.181|76.184.23.181]] 01:24, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
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:::What's funny is I agree with you—it ''has'' been long enough now, and ''I'' don't like being reminded of it, either. In fact I came this close to taking it down completely a couple of days ago, but I stopped myself. It just didn't feel right, since this mess is still very much not over. But I toned it way down (btw, the most it has ever appeared is on half of all page loads; now it's on a twelfth). If you'd like to eliminate it completely, you can of course create an account and then set whatever logo you like on your user CSS page. As you mention, no one else has brought up this point of view yet. If they do, I'll reconsider whether it's time to take it down altogether. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 03:03, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
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::::1) You have no idea how relieved I am to hear that you agree with me for the most part! :)
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::::I apologize if I came across as preemptively defensive earlier. I'm not the best at wording, so I was gulp-afraid of saying the wrong thing and being misunderstood... that's happened to me a lot, especially in discussions about this pandemic. (Which is the major reason for me not liking to be reminded of it too often if possible.)
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::::2) Oh yes, I do remember that even in the beginning it wasn't on every page load. I think I initially assumed it was on only certain pages or something. And I did notice that it wasn't appearing as frequently lately, but I wasn't sure if that meant it had been toned down or was just a coincidence (at one point I even thought it was finally gone). Once every 12 page loads is acceptable, especially now that I know I'm not the only one who's tired of it. ;)
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::::3) I didn't know it was possible to change the logo on my user CSS page. I don't have a lot of practice with CSS but I might give it a try. Thanks for letting me know!
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::::4) I suppose it should be mentioned: technically I do have an account here, that I made when I was about 14 or 15. Same with the forum. But I've haven't been to the forum in years and have barely used the wiki account - instead, I mostly just browse the wiki, and, on VERY rare occasions, post on talk pages. Every once in a while I think about logging in and making contributions more often and becoming a regular user (after all, I read talk pages more than the average non-contributing user does, and several times I've thought of edits I could make), but... I said a LOT of dumb things on the forum back in the day, and my wiki and forum usernames are similar, so I cringe thinking about the possibility that people might still remember all of that. One of these days I'm going to see if I can still log in so I can change my username.
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::::[[Special:Contributions/76.184.23.181|76.184.23.181]] 07:49, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
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:Turns out the coronavirus doubles as a computer [[virus]]. {{User:The thing/sig}} 20:31, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
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<blockquote>You are now logged into the Homestar Runner Wiki as "Bluebry".<br/><br/>Return to Main Page.<br/><br/>Category: HRWiki Templates</blockquote>
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== What's new correction ==
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So... is this supposed to happen, or, am I just insane<small><small><small>ly cool</small></small></small>? {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 01:36, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
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The "What's New" should have the Fan Costumes from Thanksgiving at the bottom. [[User:Wolf O&#39;Donnel|Wolf O&#39;Donnel]] 03:52, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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:[[MediaWiki:Loginsuccess]]  apparently has {{tl|recentchangesnotice}} embedded. It seems that the <nowiki><noinclude></nowiki> tag is not obeyed.  I think moving the category tag to the talk page and clearing the page should do the trick. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 05:48, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
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:I think whoever edited What's New last opted to take the Fan Costumes out instead, because the Halloween toon is a bigger, more significant update. The importance of updates should be considered alongside their recent,,,ness. A big toon should take priority over a short, and so on. --[[User:DorianGray|DorianGray]] 04:33, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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::I did that. I was under the impression that the box was meant to primarily show the updates on the site's "what's new" button. The Halloween toon is there, while the Fan Costumes is not. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 04:37, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::A good rule of thumb is that we should list everything within the last month and anything that's still in the What's New button, and if we still have space to fill, we can include older things that you can actually watch, like toons. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 14:07, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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== I'll stop being cute: I Need Help With an Image ==
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== Site on the fritz ==
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We've seen normal bushes in [[pizza joint|normal The Field]], [[Jibblies 2|nighttime The Field]], and [[Toikey TV|autumn The Field]]. I think it's clear the round bushes are not coming back soon. (I'm personally indifferent to the change) Could someone with a decompiler help remove the characters and props from [[:Image:Pizza_Joint_The_Field.PNG|this picture]] so it could be properly displayed on The Field's article? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 19:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
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The wiki has been taking an age to load lately. Is there something amiss or do just that many people wanna know what the crap Bod is? [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 12:21, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
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:<s>Meh, I had a nice decompiler on my old computer. I'll redownload it and see what I can do. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 20:01, 25 November 2007 (UTC)</s>
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:Yeah that happens sometimes, especially when there's a new toon. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:35, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
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::Sorry, I can't find my good old trusty old decompiler on the web. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 20:13, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
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:::You can't decompile a JPG. {{User:Qermaq/sig}} 02:10, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
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::::I think BBG means decompile the scene from the Flash file, Qermaq. Which is what I tried. Yay. {{User:Bluebry/sig}} 02:11, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
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== Search Problems on Main Page ==
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== History preservation ==
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When I got on the site I noticed that instead of Go or Search it said <input type='submit' name="go" class="searchButton" id="searchGoButton". Is this happening to everyone or just me?--[[User:Onestop|ONESTOP]] 21:21, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
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Could you keep the pages for the stuff that will be removed from the website in 2021 (e.g. games, character videos, etc.) on the Wiki, so as to preserve the history of the website? (That "Mashed Potato Jones" comment from "Halloween Fairstival" and other stuff that was changed should be kept on the Wiki, too)
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:Probably just you. It looks fine to me. Does refreshing help? &mdash;[[User:BazookaJoe|BazookaJoe]] 21:59, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
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:Has there been any announcement indicating that content will be removed from the website? I believe individuals have made content archives and projects such as [[Wikipedia:Lightspark|Lightspark]] should allow such content to remain playable after flash's EOL. So we should be ok? Still I haven't seen any notice of content deletion as of yet. --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 18:06, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
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== Scroll Button Mirrors ==
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== Remove [[FeedBurner]] from the main page ==
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If that problem I pointed out earlier with mirrors of Scroll Button Songs from 2006-2007 is truly unexplainable and unfixable, will we eventually have a mirror of Strong Bad singing a song about the Zappy's buttons to the Lappy, or would it be fixed by then? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 14:54, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
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If we're not doing a main page redesign in the near future, could we at least replace the link to [[FeedBurner]] with [[@StrongBadActual]]? It's where updates really happen now. {{User:Elcool/sig}} 07:02, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
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:I get that you're talking about [[Talk:Scroll Button Songs#Mirror Glitch|this question]] (although a link would have been nice so I didn't have to search for it). Two things: it's not unexplainable, and it's not unfixable. As for the rest of your question, I have no idea what you're talking about. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:05, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
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: I agree with Elcool. Which is why I decided to '''be bold''' and make the exact update he suggests. --{{User:Jay/sig}} 10:02, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
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::Will mirrors we make in the future of Scroll Button Songs Strong Bad sings to his next computer still show the Lappy? [[User:Bad Bad Guy|Bad Bad Guy]] 17:17, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
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::A '''bold''' edit? on the '''''Main Page'''''?!?!? :O Awesome! {{User:Elcool/sig}} 12:28, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
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:::'''NOTE:''' ''I've updated the redesign discussion [[HRWiki_talk:Main_page_redesign#Recent_update|here]] in response to this update.'' --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 19:47, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
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::To Elcool, Jay, and the rest of the sysops (and the greater wiki community at large): '''I would greatly appreciate everyone's feedback on if and how to move forward with the main page redesign!''' This is another thing that has stalled for years and I think even small changes would be helpful.  However, changes for the main page need to begin with sysop and admin participation!  Thanks! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:53, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
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== Swears ==
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== Flash archive preservation ==
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On any censored versions of Interviews, there is a part that says <nowiki>{{Interview's name|swear=***}}</nowiki>. Where do you put where all the words that you consider swears? {{User:Homestar-winner/sig}} 01:25, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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What are we going to do with the wiki's flash archives? We need to preserve the old content, and there isn't any sign that the brothers chaps will post them on youtube.
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:[[https://twitter.com/StrongBadActual/status/1343723058289373184/photo/1 They've got their top man on it.]] And we got all the files backed up here so if needed we can run our own legacy player for stuff like [[Where the Crap are we?]] or worst case scenario, beg Newgrounds for their player. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 00:16, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
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:And just like that, they've unveiled a new HTML site that runs Ruffle for the old crap! I already found two Easter eggs! [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 01:50, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
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== Some sbemails redirect to the wrong ones. ==
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As an example: [[1 step ahead]] redirects to sbemail 29 if you take the link to http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail28.html {{User:ColdReactive/sig}} 08:13, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
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:Sounds like a redirect bug to me (or similar). It could be noted in the [[Post-Flash Site Update]] page.  But more importantly TBC should be made aware of this so it can be fixed.  Not sure what the best way to do that is, I don't think they have a 'report site problems' link or similar.  Oh, I guess there's also twitter! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 08:20, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
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== Index page seems to be missing from the Main Page ==
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The title says it all: every since the [[Post-Flash Site Update]], it seems the [[Index Page]] has risen to prominence a bit more than before. It should probably be included in the Main Page as well! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 09:10, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
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:I see this a lot. Why do people say that the title says it all and then go on to say more things? Anyway I added the index page to the main page. &mdash; [[User:It's dot com|It's dot com]] 16:45, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
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::That is a ''very'' good question!  I had never thought of that before. I almost didn't put the phrase in, but I still felt like it should go there.  People are riddled and mired in contradiction.  That's the only thing that comes to mind. Also, thank you very much for adding the link! --[[User:Stux|Stux]] 13:51, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
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Twice, I've come across [http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Eggs_(disambiguation)&diff=prev&oldid=804774 edits that] [http://hrwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Pink_Pants!&diff=prev&oldid=805372 go against] tradition. I'm fairly certain we have never had a disambiguation with a non-name-matching entry or a categorised redirect, and I also don't understand the sudden acceptance for them<!--not unlike the sudden like for clones in Smash Bros. when certain ones were given an official name-->. {{User:RickTommy/sig}} 13:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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:Tradition for tradition's sake isn't necessarily a good thing. If all decisions were made purely based on precedent, nothing would ever change. Also, since these edits have been made, they are no longer unprecedented. When these precedents were established is irrelevant; what matters is whether these practices should continue based on their own merits.
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:The first is more common than you think ([[Haunted House]], for instance, has no links with "Haunted House" in the title). The content of the page is just as relevant as its title, so I see no reason to enforce such a restriction. I can imagine a user looking for the sbemail about eggs, and visiting that disambiguation for help finding it.
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:I'm more conflicted on the second thing. I can see the benefits, but to me, a categorised redirect is an indication that either the redirect should get its own page, or that the page should be categorised instead of the redirect. I'd prefer a more elegant solution, but it's not harming anyone and is unlikely to cause confusion, so I'm fine with it staying. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 19:12, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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==Markiplier Mentions==
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I recently noticed the Markiplier has referenced Homestarrunner.com on more than one occasion.
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He made a vague reference to the Virus SBEmail in his :The Game: trilogy.
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Also in his playthrough of Home Improvisation I noticed that one of the boxes in the game has Fhqwhgads printed on it.
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{{User:ToaJuaraevo01/sig1}} 22:19, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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:Markiplier is a good fit for [[Other Sightings]]. See the entries for [[Other Sightings#Brutalmoose|Brutalmoose]], [[Other Sightings#DaThings|DaThings]], or [[Other Sightings#PeanutButterGamer|PeanutButterGamer]] for examples of how to note the mentions. Describe Markiplier's references and link to the videos where they appear, timestamped if possible. The "Home Improvisation" reference can go in [[Game Sightings]]. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 05:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
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::Thanks, Done! {{User:ToaJuaraevo01/sig1}} 17:40, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
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== DVD commentary filmographies? ==
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Although the DVD commentaries are generally just the two Brothers Chaps, many times they are joined by [[contributors|friends and family]] and/or Matt will portray one of the dumb animal characters. The toon articles all identify who is present for the DVD version with a "Commentary by:" subheader, but is there a separate article tracking commentators? Something like [[:Category:Filmography]], [[Strong Bad Email By Name of Sender]], or [[Fan Costumes#Costumes]]. If not this is something that I think would be a good addition to the wiki. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 17:26, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
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:Each DVD page (e.g. [[strongbad_email.exe Disc One]]) lists the commentators of each toon, but it might be interesting and helpful to have a centralized list of all of them. Ideally it should be formatted differently from the DVD articles (such as having separate sections for each character), or else it might be redundant. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 18:05, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
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I've been having some loading issues on both Chrome and Firefox with ad blockers off. [[User:Wolf O&#39;Donnel|Wolf O&#39;Donnel]] 08:35, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
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:The wiki tends to load slower when it receives more traffic. My guess is that more people are coming here to check if the Halloween toon/teaser is out. {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 03:45, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

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Featured content of the day (or whenever) issue

I noticed that the trogdor 08 link to "watch" links to trogday.html, and not trogday08.html is this a known issue? ColdReactive 13:04, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Fixed. — It's dot com 15:48, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Discussions

There are a lot of talk page discussions happening on this wiki. The problem is, this wiki is not very active, so such discussions rarely get consensus and very few things get done. (That's why I'm always reviving old discussions with a phrase like "I still agree with this.") I think there should be some way to keep track of all the ongoing discussions. Maybe a [[HRWiki:Discussions]] page or something to keep these discussions from becoming inactive. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 01:37, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

I still agree with this. (See? That proves my point!) Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 06:17, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
I also agree with this. (You have a good point!) Minecraft lover147 04:58, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
There's HRWiki:Open Discussions - not really active, but since it's directly linked from The Stick it could be revived easily. -- Bleu Ninja 21:40, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Aquabats Kickstarter Cameo

Homestar Runner makes an appearance in this Aquabats Kickstarter video

[1] — 108.54.219.151 (Talk | contribs) 20:07, 10 August 2018 (UTC) (left unsigned)

February 21?

Why does the Main Page say that the newest Skills of an Artist was released on February 21 when it was released this month? 76.184.27.104 20:23, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

My bad. I probably copy-pasted it when updating and forgot to change the date. Thanks for bringing it to my attention~ --DorianGray 20:34, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Two Questions

These two edits raise two questions concerning wiki standards.

See HRWiki talk:Standards → Linking to articles with disambiguation in the page title
and HRWiki talk:Standards → Retroactive names in transcripts

Some questions we would like to ask about...

Hi there, I'm a stranger who wants to ask you some questions.

1) When will ALL the old Flash pages turn to HTML5?

2) When are you going to UNBAN IP addresses who "committed" persistent vandalism?

3) If Flash is dead, are you going to cancel HomestarRunner.com ?

4) Why wouldn't we see ANY updates from 2011 to 2014?

5) Could y'all please tell us what email The Brothers Chaps have?

--83.185.35.154 18:37, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

1) We don't know. Ask the Brothers Chaps.
2) Never. Why should we?
3) You'll have to be more specific as to what that means exactly. We aren't involved with homestarrunner.com, so we can't take down someone else's website. And The Brothers Chaps are planning to give the site a HTML5 update, so they won't take it down.
4) Kids, creative burnout, side projects, etc. See HRWiki:Hiatuses for more details.
5) Their email address used to be brotherschaps@homestarrunner.com, but it was removed from the site's Email page, so it seems @StrongBadActual is now their primary contact method.
Hope this helps! Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 22:33, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Concerning the answer #2, why never? --83.185.35.154 22:50, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
To reduce the risk of a repeat offender. The Knights Who Say Ni 23:32, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
THAT repeat offender is way worse than CE5, aren't we right? --83.185.35.154 23:36, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Look, I'm not sure what your issues are, but the simple truth is that the best thing for you to do is behave like someone who has never even heard the name "Maudi Algabban" (we are not fooled, we know who you are) and has literally zero curiosity about the name or the user's history, while also showing no particular interest toward all the things you show far too much interest over (such as the Pyongyang reference, the hiatuses, and the possibility of homestarrunner.com being taken down) and never, ever, even for a moment, even consider writing loud yelling, swearing posts demanding people unblock you and give you answers to questions we have no way of answering. Also, make constructive Wiki edits (that means not vandalism, with or without scare quotes), not just Talk page chatter. Basically, you need to start over completely and pretend you are not and were never you and do not care about you - and that doesn't mean to insult yourself, it means do not mention yourself. You've built up far too much bad karma, so it's very likely that even the slightest hint that you are you will be treated with immediate suspicion, and likely result in further blocks. And if you think this is unreasonable, perhaps what you really need to do is to find a way to end your obsession with this Wiki. You've been pulling these bizarre stunts for literal years. --Jay (Gobble) 23:50, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
I must tell you all that I'm NOTHING but a stranger, but if you would like to send some ANGRY emails to him, his email address is -redacted- . Maudi MUST be punished and he's WAY the worst contributor on Homestar Runner Wiki! LET'S GET HIM!!!! --83.185.35.154 23:57, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
*sigh* I tried. --Jay (Gobble) 23:59, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Netiquette w/r/t interviews on defunct sites

As I clean up various pages on the site I'm finding that many cited interviews and links are dead and gone.

See HRWiki talk:Standards → Interviews on defunct sites


https

Hi! Can you make this site secure please, https. Thanks kindly!

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I have literally no idea what you mean by that. -Minecraft lover147 04:53, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

YouTube channel?

Maybe you could consider adding the HomestarRunner YouTube channel to the new content watchlist, since that's where TBC seems to be doing most of their work, now?

ToaJuaraevo01(Forgot how to sign)

To sign, just put four tildes after your post (~~~~). Lira (talk) 16:20, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
If you just want your name, like this:Minecraft lover147, you just put 3 tildes after your post (~~~). If you want to do your name and the time, do the aforementioned 4 tildes. To do just the time, like this: 05:11, 9 February 2020 (UTC), do 5 tildes (~~~~~).
This post has been posted by Minecraft lover147. The time it was posted is 05:11, 9 February 2020 (UTC).
I disagree. YouTube is really more of a dumping ground for all the old Flash stuff that is still available on the site, but might not be should the Flash plug be pulled. And though I prefer to avoid YouTube, I don't think the Homestar Runner YouTube channel has been updated in months. Because YouTube is a place where absolutely nothing happens. I would mention that most new content is now posted on Twitter, but much of it doesn't qualify as full toons that demand full attention. (This may change, but not in the foreseeable future). -- 68.37.43.131 13:35, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
There actually is SOME original content on there, if you bother to look. ToaJuaraevo01 File:Homsar-in-motion.gif 04:12, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
What exactly do you mean "new content watchlist"? YouTube-exclusive content is already listed and documented in numerous places. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 07:38, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Redesign

I was just looking at the HRWiki:Main page redesign, and it had something entitled, "On this day..." for H*R stuff that happened on that day in history. I like the idea of that, but when I looked on it, it had stuff for February 9th. Where I live, it's still February 8th. I know this wiki is centered around UTC, but it could be very confusing for someone who doesn't know that. -Minecraft lover147 04:50, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Sick Homestar, BRAH

Why is homestar sick looking on the main page button? Found no other place to post this question --Jeffjman[2] 16:04, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

World events, Jeff. World events. — It's dot com 17:12, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
How long exactly will the COVID-related logos continue to show up? It's been long enough now - if it was even necessary in the first place. Yes, we get it. Current events, the end times have almost come, we almost danced the Conga of the Apocalypse, etc. We get that. I think everyone who visits this wiki is aware of that by now. I think we'd all be aware of that even if this wiki's logo didn't shove it in our faces every few page loads (though I do appreciate that it is no longer EVERY page load like it was at first). And I don't think any of us like being reminded of it - especially not this long after the fact. I'm sure most of us visit this wiki to take our minds off of the bad news for a while, not to be reminded of it by the logo. But it's your call, I suppose. I do hope I'm not coming across as rude - I just want to give my two cents on the matter since no one has brought up this point of view yet. 76.184.23.181 01:24, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
What's funny is I agree with you—it has been long enough now, and I don't like being reminded of it, either. In fact I came this close to taking it down completely a couple of days ago, but I stopped myself. It just didn't feel right, since this mess is still very much not over. But I toned it way down (btw, the most it has ever appeared is on half of all page loads; now it's on a twelfth). If you'd like to eliminate it completely, you can of course create an account and then set whatever logo you like on your user CSS page. As you mention, no one else has brought up this point of view yet. If they do, I'll reconsider whether it's time to take it down altogether. — It's dot com 03:03, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
1) You have no idea how relieved I am to hear that you agree with me for the most part! :)
I apologize if I came across as preemptively defensive earlier. I'm not the best at wording, so I was gulp-afraid of saying the wrong thing and being misunderstood... that's happened to me a lot, especially in discussions about this pandemic. (Which is the major reason for me not liking to be reminded of it too often if possible.)
2) Oh yes, I do remember that even in the beginning it wasn't on every page load. I think I initially assumed it was on only certain pages or something. And I did notice that it wasn't appearing as frequently lately, but I wasn't sure if that meant it had been toned down or was just a coincidence (at one point I even thought it was finally gone). Once every 12 page loads is acceptable, especially now that I know I'm not the only one who's tired of it. ;)
3) I didn't know it was possible to change the logo on my user CSS page. I don't have a lot of practice with CSS but I might give it a try. Thanks for letting me know!
4) I suppose it should be mentioned: technically I do have an account here, that I made when I was about 14 or 15. Same with the forum. But I've haven't been to the forum in years and have barely used the wiki account - instead, I mostly just browse the wiki, and, on VERY rare occasions, post on talk pages. Every once in a while I think about logging in and making contributions more often and becoming a regular user (after all, I read talk pages more than the average non-contributing user does, and several times I've thought of edits I could make), but... I said a LOT of dumb things on the forum back in the day, and my wiki and forum usernames are similar, so I cringe thinking about the possibility that people might still remember all of that. One of these days I'm going to see if I can still log in so I can change my username.
76.184.23.181 07:49, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Turns out the coronavirus doubles as a computer virus. TheThin 20:31, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

What's new correction

The "What's New" should have the Fan Costumes from Thanksgiving at the bottom. Wolf O'Donnel 03:52, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

I think whoever edited What's New last opted to take the Fan Costumes out instead, because the Halloween toon is a bigger, more significant update. The importance of updates should be considered alongside their recent,,,ness. A big toon should take priority over a short, and so on. --DorianGray 04:33, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
I did that. I was under the impression that the box was meant to primarily show the updates on the site's "what's new" button. The Halloween toon is there, while the Fan Costumes is not. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 04:37, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
A good rule of thumb is that we should list everything within the last month and anything that's still in the What's New button, and if we still have space to fill, we can include older things that you can actually watch, like toons. — It's dot com 14:07, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Site on the fritz

The wiki has been taking an age to load lately. Is there something amiss or do just that many people wanna know what the crap Bod is? Guybrush20X6 12:21, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Yeah that happens sometimes, especially when there's a new toon. — It's dot com 16:35, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

History preservation

Could you keep the pages for the stuff that will be removed from the website in 2021 (e.g. games, character videos, etc.) on the Wiki, so as to preserve the history of the website? (That "Mashed Potato Jones" comment from "Halloween Fairstival" and other stuff that was changed should be kept on the Wiki, too)

Has there been any announcement indicating that content will be removed from the website? I believe individuals have made content archives and projects such as Lightspark should allow such content to remain playable after flash's EOL. So we should be ok? Still I haven't seen any notice of content deletion as of yet. --Stux 18:06, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Remove FeedBurner from the main page

If we're not doing a main page redesign in the near future, could we at least replace the link to FeedBurner with @StrongBadActual? It's where updates really happen now. Elcool (talk)(contribs) 07:02, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

I agree with Elcool. Which is why I decided to be bold and make the exact update he suggests. --Jay (Gobble) 10:02, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
A bold edit? on the Main Page?!?!? :O Awesome! Elcool (talk)(contribs) 12:28, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
NOTE: I've updated the redesign discussion here in response to this update. --Stux 19:47, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
To Elcool, Jay, and the rest of the sysops (and the greater wiki community at large): I would greatly appreciate everyone's feedback on if and how to move forward with the main page redesign! This is another thing that has stalled for years and I think even small changes would be helpful. However, changes for the main page need to begin with sysop and admin participation! Thanks! --Stux 13:53, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Flash archive preservation

What are we going to do with the wiki's flash archives? We need to preserve the old content, and there isn't any sign that the brothers chaps will post them on youtube.

[They've got their top man on it.] And we got all the files backed up here so if needed we can run our own legacy player for stuff like Where the Crap are we? or worst case scenario, beg Newgrounds for their player. Guybrush20X6 00:16, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
And just like that, they've unveiled a new HTML site that runs Ruffle for the old crap! I already found two Easter eggs! Guybrush20X6 01:50, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Some sbemails redirect to the wrong ones.

As an example: 1 step ahead redirects to sbemail 29 if you take the link to http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail28.html ColdReactive 08:13, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Sounds like a redirect bug to me (or similar). It could be noted in the Post-Flash Site Update page. But more importantly TBC should be made aware of this so it can be fixed. Not sure what the best way to do that is, I don't think they have a 'report site problems' link or similar. Oh, I guess there's also twitter! --Stux 08:20, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Index page seems to be missing from the Main Page

The title says it all: every since the Post-Flash Site Update, it seems the Index Page has risen to prominence a bit more than before. It should probably be included in the Main Page as well! --Stux 09:10, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

I see this a lot. Why do people say that the title says it all and then go on to say more things? Anyway I added the index page to the main page. — It's dot com 16:45, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
That is a very good question! I had never thought of that before. I almost didn't put the phrase in, but I still felt like it should go there. People are riddled and mired in contradiction. That's the only thing that comes to mind. Also, thank you very much for adding the link! --Stux 13:51, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Breaking tradition

Twice, I've come across edits that go against tradition. I'm fairly certain we have never had a disambiguation with a non-name-matching entry or a categorised redirect, and I also don't understand the sudden acceptance for them. RickTommy (edits) 13:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Tradition for tradition's sake isn't necessarily a good thing. If all decisions were made purely based on precedent, nothing would ever change. Also, since these edits have been made, they are no longer unprecedented. When these precedents were established is irrelevant; what matters is whether these practices should continue based on their own merits.
The first is more common than you think (Haunted House, for instance, has no links with "Haunted House" in the title). The content of the page is just as relevant as its title, so I see no reason to enforce such a restriction. I can imagine a user looking for the sbemail about eggs, and visiting that disambiguation for help finding it.
I'm more conflicted on the second thing. I can see the benefits, but to me, a categorised redirect is an indication that either the redirect should get its own page, or that the page should be categorised instead of the redirect. I'd prefer a more elegant solution, but it's not harming anyone and is unlikely to cause confusion, so I'm fine with it staying. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 19:12, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Markiplier Mentions

I recently noticed the Markiplier has referenced Homestarrunner.com on more than one occasion.

He made a vague reference to the Virus SBEmail in his :The Game: trilogy.

Also in his playthrough of Home Improvisation I noticed that one of the boxes in the game has Fhqwhgads printed on it. ToaJuaraevo01 File:Homsar-in-motion.gif 22:19, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Markiplier is a good fit for Other Sightings. See the entries for Brutalmoose, DaThings, or PeanutButterGamer for examples of how to note the mentions. Describe Markiplier's references and link to the videos where they appear, timestamped if possible. The "Home Improvisation" reference can go in Game Sightings. -- Bleu Ninja 05:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, Done! ToaJuaraevo01 File:Homsar-in-motion.gif 17:40, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

DVD commentary filmographies?

Although the DVD commentaries are generally just the two Brothers Chaps, many times they are joined by friends and family and/or Matt will portray one of the dumb animal characters. The toon articles all identify who is present for the DVD version with a "Commentary by:" subheader, but is there a separate article tracking commentators? Something like Category:Filmography, Strong Bad Email By Name of Sender, or Fan Costumes#Costumes. If not this is something that I think would be a good addition to the wiki. -- Bleu Ninja 17:26, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Each DVD page (e.g. strongbad_email.exe Disc One) lists the commentators of each toon, but it might be interesting and helpful to have a centralized list of all of them. Ideally it should be formatted differently from the DVD articles (such as having separate sections for each character), or else it might be redundant. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 18:05, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Loading issues

I've been having some loading issues on both Chrome and Firefox with ad blockers off. Wolf O'Donnel 08:35, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

The wiki tends to load slower when it receives more traffic. My guess is that more people are coming here to check if the Halloween toon/teaser is out. Gfdgsgxgzgdrc 03:45, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
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