User talk:0rion - Revision history

Trey56: /* Shouting */ revised comment -- hopefully less preachy

Trey56 — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:44:03 GMT

Shouting: revised comment -- hopefully less preachy

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	::Taking this to the talk page is a good idea. At any rate, my only problem here is that Heimstern isn't taking issue with what I ''said'' or ''did'', but rather he is obsessing over a technicality in the way I went about doing it. And obsessing is just what I mean. Because really... all caps? Is there an all caps demon that is slowly released whenever someone "shouts" a sentence in an edit page? Come on. It's just such a ridiculous thing to quibble over. [[User:0rion\|0rion]] 07:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)		::Taking this to the talk page is a good idea. At any rate, my only problem here is that Heimstern isn't taking issue with what I ''said'' or ''did'', but rather he is obsessing over a technicality in the way I went about doing it. And obsessing is just what I mean. Because really... all caps? Is there an all caps demon that is slowly released whenever someone "shouts" a sentence in an edit page? Come on. It's just such a ridiculous thing to quibble over. [[User:0rion\|0rion]] 07:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

-	:::I think Heimstern's comments are entirely reasonable: typing in all caps universally communicates shouting, and there's no reason to shout at other users/other users' opinions~~. Remember that this is~~ a wiki about [[Glossary#D\|dumb animal characters]], ~~and it's not worth inciting conflict over a simple fun fact~~. ~~Also, I might remind~~ you ~~that this is the second time that someone has posted~~ on your talk page ~~asking you~~ not to shout ~~(granted, it was Heimstern in that case too, but I remember that occurrence and I agreed with him then too). The length~~ of ~~this discussion may seem like it's making a mountain out~~ of a ~~molehill, but I just want~~ to ~~stress that~~ you [[HRWiki:Talk page etiquette#Talk post content\|~~treat all~~ other users with dignity and respect]] ~~— this includes their opinions~~. ~~Thanks~~, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)	+	:::I think Heimstern's comments are entirely reasonable: typing in all caps universally communicates shouting, and there's no reason to shout at other users/other users' opinions (it's a wiki about [[Glossary#D\|dumb animal characters]], after all). That people have asked you twice on your talk page not to shout is good reason to think about toning down the intensity of some of your posts and to give them a second read to make sure you're [[HRWiki:Talk page etiquette#Talk post content\|treating other users with dignity and respect]]. I don't mean to make a mountain out of a molehill, though. {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

-	::::P.S. I read the comment you made on the article talk page. You expressed your point clearly and in a civil way — ~~thanks~~. See ya around, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)	+	::::P.S. I read the comment you made on the article talk page. You expressed your point clearly and in a civil way — awesome. See ya around, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Trey56: reply

Trey56 — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 07:59:00 GMT

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	::Taking this to the talk page is a good idea. At any rate, my only problem here is that Heimstern isn't taking issue with what I ''said'' or ''did'', but rather he is obsessing over a technicality in the way I went about doing it. And obsessing is just what I mean. Because really... all caps? Is there an all caps demon that is slowly released whenever someone "shouts" a sentence in an edit page? Come on. It's just such a ridiculous thing to quibble over. [[User:0rion\|0rion]] 07:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)		::Taking this to the talk page is a good idea. At any rate, my only problem here is that Heimstern isn't taking issue with what I ''said'' or ''did'', but rather he is obsessing over a technicality in the way I went about doing it. And obsessing is just what I mean. Because really... all caps? Is there an all caps demon that is slowly released whenever someone "shouts" a sentence in an edit page? Come on. It's just such a ridiculous thing to quibble over. [[User:0rion\|0rion]] 07:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
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		+	:::I think Heimstern's comments are entirely reasonable: typing in all caps universally communicates shouting, and there's no reason to shout at other users/other users' opinions. Remember that this is a wiki about [[Glossary#D\|dumb animal characters]], and it's not worth inciting conflict over a simple fun fact. Also, I might remind you that this is the second time that someone has posted on your talk page asking you not to shout (granted, it was Heimstern in that case too, but I remember that occurrence and I agreed with him then too). The length of this discussion may seem like it's making a mountain out of a molehill, but I just want to stress that you [[HRWiki:Talk page etiquette#Talk post content\|treat all other users with dignity and respect]] — this includes their opinions. Thanks, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
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		+	::::P.S. I read the comment you made on the article talk page. You expressed your point clearly and in a civil way — thanks. See ya around, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

0rion: /* Shouting */

0rion — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 07:24:14 GMT

Shouting

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	Second, aside from the whole shouting issue, the best way to handle that kind of content dispute in an article is not to engage in a revert war — it's a lot better to take it to the talk page and calmly discuss it there. After I saw the reverting going on, I created [[Talk:Drive-Thru#Echo II: Echo-lectric Boogaloo\|a section on the talk page]] as a place to resolve this. It's just not important enough to make such a big deal out of. Later, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)		Second, aside from the whole shouting issue, the best way to handle that kind of content dispute in an article is not to engage in a revert war — it's a lot better to take it to the talk page and calmly discuss it there. After I saw the reverting going on, I created [[Talk:Drive-Thru#Echo II: Echo-lectric Boogaloo\|a section on the talk page]] as a place to resolve this. It's just not important enough to make such a big deal out of. Later, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

-	::Taking this to the talk page is a good idea. At any rate, my only problem here is that Heimstern isn't taking issue with what I ''said'' or ''did'', but rather he is obsessing over a technicality in the way I went about doing it. And obsessing is just what I mean. Because really... all caps? Is there an all caps demon that is slowly released whenever someone "shouts" a sentence in an edit page? Come on. It's just such a ridiculous thing to quibble over.	+	::Taking this to the talk page is a good idea. At any rate, my only problem here is that Heimstern isn't taking issue with what I ''said'' or ''did'', but rather he is obsessing over a technicality in the way I went about doing it. And obsessing is just what I mean. Because really... all caps? Is there an all caps demon that is slowly released whenever someone "shouts" a sentence in an edit page? Come on. It's just such a ridiculous thing to quibble over. [[User:0rion\|0rion]] 07:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

0rion: /* Shouting */

0rion — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 07:23:43 GMT

Shouting

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	Second, aside from the whole shouting issue, the best way to handle that kind of content dispute in an article is not to engage in a revert war — it's a lot better to take it to the talk page and calmly discuss it there. After I saw the reverting going on, I created [[Talk:Drive-Thru#Echo II: Echo-lectric Boogaloo\|a section on the talk page]] as a place to resolve this. It's just not important enough to make such a big deal out of. Later, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)		Second, aside from the whole shouting issue, the best way to handle that kind of content dispute in an article is not to engage in a revert war — it's a lot better to take it to the talk page and calmly discuss it there. After I saw the reverting going on, I created [[Talk:Drive-Thru#Echo II: Echo-lectric Boogaloo\|a section on the talk page]] as a place to resolve this. It's just not important enough to make such a big deal out of. Later, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
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		+	::Taking this to the talk page is a good idea. At any rate, my only problem here is that Heimstern isn't taking issue with what I ''said'' or ''did'', but rather he is obsessing over a technicality in the way I went about doing it. And obsessing is just what I mean. Because really... all caps? Is there an all caps demon that is slowly released whenever someone "shouts" a sentence in an edit page? Come on. It's just such a ridiculous thing to quibble over.

Trey56: /* Shouting */ some words

Trey56 — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 07:13:57 GMT

Shouting: some words

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	:If I get impatient trying to explain the obvious, so be it. This sounds less like a refutation of what I'm saying and more of a nitpick on the way I'm saying it. [[User:0rion\|0rion]] 06:52, 21 March 2007 (UTC)		:If I get impatient trying to explain the obvious, so be it. This sounds less like a refutation of what I'm saying and more of a nitpick on the way I'm saying it. [[User:0rion\|0rion]] 06:52, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
	::My comment to you has nothing to do with whether or not you are right about the content in question. Rather, it is because shouting in edit summaries is uncivil and not acceptable behavior at the wiki. Your attitude of "if I get impatient, so be it" isn't OK, either. Civility is not optional, it is required. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC)		::My comment to you has nothing to do with whether or not you are right about the content in question. Rather, it is because shouting in edit summaries is uncivil and not acceptable behavior at the wiki. Your attitude of "if I get impatient, so be it" isn't OK, either. Civility is not optional, it is required. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
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		+	First, I want to clarify [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:0rion&diff=432837&oldid=432836 my edit summary] — my meaning was "I put your talk page back", not "Put your talk page back" (command). Sorry about the confusion.
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		+	Second, aside from the whole shouting issue, the best way to handle that kind of content dispute in an article is not to engage in a revert war — it's a lot better to take it to the talk page and calmly discuss it there. After I saw the reverting going on, I created [[Talk:Drive-Thru#Echo II: Echo-lectric Boogaloo\|a section on the talk page]] as a place to resolve this. It's just not important enough to make such a big deal out of. Later, {{User:Trey56/sig}} 07:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

0rion: /* Welcome! */ First, mind your own business. Second, I was trying to delete the other one. It's an accident.

0rion — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 06:58:43 GMT

Welcome!: First, mind your own business. Second, I was trying to delete the other one. It's an accident.

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-	Hello and [[Weclome]] to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki''', 0rion. We're glad to have you as a member. If you need any help, feel free to ask [[User talk: The Joe\|me]], or anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members\|welcoming committee]]. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ\|FAQ talk page]].
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	== Shouting ==		== Shouting ==

Heimstern Läufer: /* Shouting */ keeping discussion together and reply

Heimstern Läufer — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 06:57:52 GMT

Shouting: keeping discussion together and reply

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	As I have already warned you in the past, please do not shout in edit summaries. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)		As I have already warned you in the past, please do not shout in edit summaries. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
		+	:If I get impatient trying to explain the obvious, so be it. This sounds less like a refutation of what I'm saying and more of a nitpick on the way I'm saying it. [[User:0rion\|0rion]] 06:52, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
		+	::My comment to you has nothing to do with whether or not you are right about the content in question. Rather, it is because shouting in edit summaries is uncivil and not acceptable behavior at the wiki. Your attitude of "if I get impatient, so be it" isn't OK, either. Civility is not optional, it is required. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Trey56: put talk page back -- you're in the middle of a conversation

Trey56 — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 06:56:24 GMT

put talk page back -- you're in the middle of a conversation

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	+	==Welcome!==

	+	Hello and [[Weclome]] to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki''', 0rion. We're glad to have you as a member. If you need any help, feel free to ask [[User talk: The Joe\|me]], or anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members\|welcoming committee]]. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ\|FAQ talk page]].
	+
	+	Here are some tips to get you started:
	+	*If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents\|help]] page.
	+	*Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards\|wiki standards]].
	+	*Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[HRWiki:User space\|user space]].
	+	*If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick\|The Stick]].
	+	*To practice editing, go over to the [[HRWiki:Sandbox\|sandbox]].
	+	*If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum].
	+	*If you see an update on [[HR:\|homestarrunner.com]] that isn't listed on the [[Main Page]], put it up [[Template:whatsnew\|here]].
	+	*To sign and timestamp a post on a talk page, type four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
	+	*Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' and have fun!
	+
	+	Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user space belongs to you. I hope this information is helpful, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.
	+
	+	Sincerely,<br />
	+	- {{User:The Joe/sig}}, and "The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee", 16:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
	+
	+	== Shouting ==
	+
	+	As I have already warned you in the past, please do not shout in edit summaries. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

0rion at 06:55, 21 March 2007

0rion — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 06:55:09 GMT

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-	~~==Welcome!==~~

-	Hello and [[Weclome]] to the '''Homestar Runner Wiki''', 0rion. We're glad to have you as a member. If you need any help, feel free to ask [[User talk: The Joe\|me]], or anyone on the [[HRWiki:Welcoming committee#Members\|welcoming committee]]. You can also post questions on the [[HRWiki talk:FAQ\|FAQ talk page]].
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-	~~Here are some tips to get you started:~~
-	*If you need general information, editing tips, or answers to frequently asked questions, check out the [[Help:Contents\|help]] page.
-	*Before you do any significant editing, be sure to familiarize yourself with our [[HRWiki:Standards\|wiki standards]].
-	*Read up on the rules and guidelines for your [[HRWiki:User space\|user space]].
-	*If you're not sure what you can do to help out, head over to [[HRWiki:The Stick\|The Stick]].
-	*To practice editing, go over to the [[HRWiki:Sandbox\|sandbox]].
-	*If you're looking for more community interaction, you can also register over at our [http://forum.hrwiki.org forum].
-	*If you see an update on [[HR:\|homestarrunner.com]] that isn't listed on the [[Main Page]], put it up [[Template:whatsnew\|here]].
-	*To sign and timestamp a post on a talk page, type four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
-	*Above all, be sure to '''be bold''' and have fun!
-
-	Feel free to delete this message when you're done reading it. After all, your user space belongs to you. I hope this information is helpful, and that you'll have a good experience contributing to our knowledge-base and our community.
-
-	~~Sincerely,<br />~~
-	~~- {{User:The Joe/sig}}, and "The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee", 16:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)~~
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-	~~== Shouting ==~~
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-	~~As I have already warned you in the past, please do not shout in edit summaries. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)~~

Heimstern Läufer: /**/Shouting

Heimstern Läufer — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 06:48:44 GMT

: Shouting

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	Sincerely,<br />		Sincerely,<br />
	- {{User:The Joe/sig}}, and "The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee", 16:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)		- {{User:The Joe/sig}}, and "The Homestar Runner Wiki Welcoming Committee", 16:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
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		+	== Shouting ==
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		+	As I have already warned you in the past, please do not shout in edit summaries. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 06:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)