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It's dot com: /* DVD Exclusives */ variable added

It's dot com — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:47:44 GMT

DVD Exclusives: variable added

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	This template doesn't allow for commentary on DVD Exclusives.. at the moment, the only example I can come up with is [[Making of Email 100]]. It just doesn't make sense to start this with "The DVD version" when that is the only version there is. Do we call this an exception that we'll need to remember if a rewording ever comes about? Or do we modify the template for this type of thing? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 04:11, 26 August 2008 (UTC)		This template doesn't allow for commentary on DVD Exclusives.. at the moment, the only example I can come up with is [[Making of Email 100]]. It just doesn't make sense to start this with "The DVD version" when that is the only version there is. Do we call this an exception that we'll need to remember if a rewording ever comes about? Or do we modify the template for this type of thing? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 04:11, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
		+	:I added a <code><nowiki>{{{source}}}</nowiki></code> variable that can replace "The DVD version" with "This video" or whatever it needs to say on a particular page. — [[User:It's dot com\|It's dot com]] 23:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

OptimisticFool: /**/DVD Exclusives

OptimisticFool — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:11:30 GMT

: DVD Exclusives

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	::Right. although, a clever bot could probably do it better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)		::Right. although, a clever bot could probably do it better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
	:::It could be faster and cleaner, yeah. And nicer for me (or anyone else that starts to pick up on it). I know what needs to be done to get it done right (remove existing text, format correctly, remove the manual categorizing), but others that follow may not know; a bot would eliminate that problem as well. [[User:The Cheatbot\|The Cheatbot]]..? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)		:::It could be faster and cleaner, yeah. And nicer for me (or anyone else that starts to pick up on it). I know what needs to be done to get it done right (remove existing text, format correctly, remove the manual categorizing), but others that follow may not know; a bot would eliminate that problem as well. [[User:The Cheatbot\|The Cheatbot]]..? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
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		+	== DVD Exclusives ==
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		+	This template doesn't allow for commentary on DVD Exclusives.. at the moment, the only example I can come up with is [[Making of Email 100]]. It just doesn't make sense to start this with "The DVD version" when that is the only version there is. Do we call this an exception that we'll need to remember if a rewording ever comes about? Or do we modify the template for this type of thing? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 04:11, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

OptimisticFool: /* Deletion */ Then let's ask a clever bot.

OptimisticFool — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:26:28 GMT

Deletion: Then let's ask a clever bot.

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	:By there being no consensus to delete, then the solution is to keep the template, and if we are keeping the template it only makes sense to use the template. By this reasoning, there should be no dispute if I start putting this template to use .. right? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)		:By there being no consensus to delete, then the solution is to keep the template, and if we are keeping the template it only makes sense to use the template. By this reasoning, there should be no dispute if I start putting this template to use .. right? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
	::Right. although, a clever bot could probably do it better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)		::Right. although, a clever bot could probably do it better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
		+	:::It could be faster and cleaner, yeah. And nicer for me (or anyone else that starts to pick up on it). I know what needs to be done to get it done right (remove existing text, format correctly, remove the manual categorizing), but others that follow may not know; a bot would eliminate that problem as well. [[User:The Cheatbot\|The Cheatbot]]..? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Defender1031: /* Deletion */ yeah

Defender1031 — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:11:52 GMT

Deletion: yeah

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	Now, as for my close: I find that there is no consensus one way or another on this template. This typically means not to delete, so I am leaving this up. Of course, if, in practice, we find we don't want to use this template, we will probably want to reconsider deleting this template. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:24, 29 June 2008 (UTC)		Now, as for my close: I find that there is no consensus one way or another on this template. This typically means not to delete, so I am leaving this up. Of course, if, in practice, we find we don't want to use this template, we will probably want to reconsider deleting this template. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:24, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
	:By there being no consensus to delete, then the solution is to keep the template, and if we are keeping the template it only makes sense to use the template. By this reasoning, there should be no dispute if I start putting this template to use .. right? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)		:By there being no consensus to delete, then the solution is to keep the template, and if we are keeping the template it only makes sense to use the template. By this reasoning, there should be no dispute if I start putting this template to use .. right? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
		+	::Right. although, a clever bot could probably do it better. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 03:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

OptimisticFool: /* Deletion */ Time to use.

OptimisticFool — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:09:16 GMT

Deletion: Time to use.

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	Now, as for my close: I find that there is no consensus one way or another on this template. This typically means not to delete, so I am leaving this up. Of course, if, in practice, we find we don't want to use this template, we will probably want to reconsider deleting this template. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:24, 29 June 2008 (UTC)		Now, as for my close: I find that there is no consensus one way or another on this template. This typically means not to delete, so I am leaving this up. Of course, if, in practice, we find we don't want to use this template, we will probably want to reconsider deleting this template. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:24, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
		+	:By there being no consensus to delete, then the solution is to keep the template, and if we are keeping the template it only makes sense to use the template. By this reasoning, there should be no dispute if I start putting this template to use .. right? {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 03:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Heimstern Läufer: rm ttbd

Heimstern Läufer — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:25:00 GMT

rm ttbd

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	== Needed? ==		== Needed? ==
	This is an interesting idea, but it's poorly laid out, and I'm not sure it's really all that helpful, especially considering the wording sometimes needs to be tweaked. (Some DVD toons have two commentaries, after all...) That said, I'm mostly neutral on this, because it could be helpful if set up right, so I marked it TBD to see what others think. -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:04, 30 May 2008 (UTC)		This is an interesting idea, but it's poorly laid out, and I'm not sure it's really all that helpful, especially considering the wording sometimes needs to be tweaked. (Some DVD toons have two commentaries, after all...) That said, I'm mostly neutral on this, because it could be helpful if set up right, so I marked it TBD to see what others think. -{{User:YK/sig}} 06:04, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Heimstern Läufer: /* Deletion */ close rationale

Heimstern Läufer — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:24:42 GMT

Deletion: close rationale

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	::I agree. Knowing that we'd have to go through the process of adding the templates to every transcript on the site that has DVD commentary, it feels unnecessary. Even if we '''don't''' have to add this template to all those transcripts, it still feels to me that its easy enough just going to a different page with a commentary on it and copying that. '''Baleete.''' {{User:DevonM/sig}} 06:52, 27 June 2008 (UTC)		::I agree. Knowing that we'd have to go through the process of adding the templates to every transcript on the site that has DVD commentary, it feels unnecessary. Even if we '''don't''' have to add this template to all those transcripts, it still feels to me that its easy enough just going to a different page with a commentary on it and copying that. '''Baleete.''' {{User:DevonM/sig}} 06:52, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
	:::The effort of going through every toon with DVD commentary and replacing what's there with this template is pretty unappealing. And when the next DVD hits the [[Store]], copying and pasting this template won't be much different than copying and pasting what we already have been. However, I do see the value of maintaining the same wording and capitalization and punctuation and categorizing (etc.) that this template would maintain. A broken template is easier to notice than a missing comma or category (for example), and would get fixed a lot quicker. And later, should we want to reword something, it's a matter of one edit rather than hundreds. '''Keep and use.''' {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)		:::The effort of going through every toon with DVD commentary and replacing what's there with this template is pretty unappealing. And when the next DVD hits the [[Store]], copying and pasting this template won't be much different than copying and pasting what we already have been. However, I do see the value of maintaining the same wording and capitalization and punctuation and categorizing (etc.) that this template would maintain. A broken template is easier to notice than a missing comma or category (for example), and would get fixed a lot quicker. And later, should we want to reword something, it's a matter of one edit rather than hundreds. '''Keep and use.''' {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
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		+	Michael, please note that removing tags should really be left to sysops.
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		+	Now, as for my close: I find that there is no consensus one way or another on this template. This typically means not to delete, so I am leaving this up. Of course, if, in practice, we find we don't want to use this template, we will probably want to reconsider deleting this template. {{User:Heimstern Läufer/sig}} 21:24, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

OptimisticFool: /* Deletion */ Too bad strongbad_email.exe Disc Six will probably be delayed (even longer than Disc Five was) because of SBCG4AP.

OptimisticFool — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:54:08 GMT

Deletion: Too bad strongbad_email.exe Disc Six will probably be delayed (even longer than Disc Five was) because of SBCG4AP.

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	== Deletion ==		== Deletion ==

-	Well, If no one responds with my post in a week, I'm taking the {tbd} template down. It seems there hasn't been much discussion awound here. [[User:MichaelXX2\|MichaelXX2]] 01:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)	+	Well, If no one responds with my post in a week, I'm taking the {{t\|tbd}} template down. It seems there hasn't been much discussion awound here. [[User:MichaelXX2\|MichaelXX2]] 01:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
	:If the template was replacing something that was fairly complicated, then perhaps it would stick around. But, this is something that can be easily copied and pasted from another SBEmail or toon. So, my feeling is this should be '''deleted'''. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 05:10, 27 June 2008 (UTC)		:If the template was replacing something that was fairly complicated, then perhaps it would stick around. But, this is something that can be easily copied and pasted from another SBEmail or toon. So, my feeling is this should be '''deleted'''. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 05:10, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
-	:I agree. Knowing that we'd have to go through the process of adding the templates to every transcript on the site that has DVD commentary, it feels unnecessary. Even if we '''don't''' have to add this template to all those transcripts, it still feels to me that its easy enough just going to a different page with a commentary on it and copying that. '''Baleete.''' {{User:DevonM/sig}} 06:52, 27 June 2008 (UTC)	+	::I agree. Knowing that we'd have to go through the process of adding the templates to every transcript on the site that has DVD commentary, it feels unnecessary. Even if we '''don't''' have to add this template to all those transcripts, it still feels to me that its easy enough just going to a different page with a commentary on it and copying that. '''Baleete.''' {{User:DevonM/sig}} 06:52, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
		+	:::The effort of going through every toon with DVD commentary and replacing what's there with this template is pretty unappealing. And when the next DVD hits the [[Store]], copying and pasting this template won't be much different than copying and pasting what we already have been. However, I do see the value of maintaining the same wording and capitalization and punctuation and categorizing (etc.) that this template would maintain. A broken template is easier to notice than a missing comma or category (for example), and would get fixed a lot quicker. And later, should we want to reword something, it's a matter of one edit rather than hundreds. '''Keep and use.''' {{User:OptimisticFool/sig}} 06:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

DevonM: /* Deletion */ I agree...

DevonM — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:52:13 GMT

Deletion: I agree...

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	Well, If no one responds with my post in a week, I'm taking the {tbd} template down. It seems there hasn't been much discussion awound here. [[User:MichaelXX2\|MichaelXX2]] 01:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)		Well, If no one responds with my post in a week, I'm taking the {tbd} template down. It seems there hasn't been much discussion awound here. [[User:MichaelXX2\|MichaelXX2]] 01:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
	:If the template was replacing something that was fairly complicated, then perhaps it would stick around. But, this is something that can be easily copied and pasted from another SBEmail or toon. So, my feeling is this should be '''deleted'''. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 05:10, 27 June 2008 (UTC)		:If the template was replacing something that was fairly complicated, then perhaps it would stick around. But, this is something that can be easily copied and pasted from another SBEmail or toon. So, my feeling is this should be '''deleted'''. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 05:10, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
		+	:I agree. Knowing that we'd have to go through the process of adding the templates to every transcript on the site that has DVD commentary, it feels unnecessary. Even if we '''don't''' have to add this template to all those transcripts, it still feels to me that its easy enough just going to a different page with a commentary on it and copying that. '''Baleete.''' {{User:DevonM/sig}} 06:52, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Wbwolf: /* Deletion */ I'll give you discussion....

Wbwolf — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 05:10:42 GMT

Deletion: I'll give you discussion....

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	Well, If no one responds with my post in a week, I'm taking the {tbd} template down. It seems there hasn't been much discussion awound here. [[User:MichaelXX2\|MichaelXX2]] 01:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)		Well, If no one responds with my post in a week, I'm taking the {tbd} template down. It seems there hasn't been much discussion awound here. [[User:MichaelXX2\|MichaelXX2]] 01:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
		+	:If the template was replacing something that was fairly complicated, then perhaps it would stick around. But, this is something that can be easily copied and pasted from another SBEmail or toon. So, my feeling is this should be '''deleted'''. {{User:Wbwolf/sig}} 05:10, 27 June 2008 (UTC)