Talk:Commonwealth English - Revision history

Guybrush20X6: /* Reviving rename discussion - "Commonwealth" vs "British" */

Guybrush20X6 — Thu, 09 Feb 2023 23:15:05 GMT

Reviving rename discussion - "Commonwealth" vs "British"

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	:Of those that do mention or imply a specific variety of English, [[sb_email 22]] is in reference to English as spoken in England; [[do over]], while it doesn't mention it in this article, uses "zed" in reference to ''Canadian'' English; and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]] (and by extension, [[Disk 4 of 12 - World Games]]) implies Scottish English. The fact that Canadian English is included and that most of the other references don't specify a variety of English makes me hesitant to rename it to specifically "British English". If there's a different way to say "Non-American varieties of English", perhaps a name like that could work, but despite Wiktionary listing it as an "uncommon" sense, that is the way "Commonwealth" is being used here. {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 19:37, 9 February 2023 (UTC)		:Of those that do mention or imply a specific variety of English, [[sb_email 22]] is in reference to English as spoken in England; [[do over]], while it doesn't mention it in this article, uses "zed" in reference to ''Canadian'' English; and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]] (and by extension, [[Disk 4 of 12 - World Games]]) implies Scottish English. The fact that Canadian English is included and that most of the other references don't specify a variety of English makes me hesitant to rename it to specifically "British English". If there's a different way to say "Non-American varieties of English", perhaps a name like that could work, but despite Wiktionary listing it as an "uncommon" sense, that is the way "Commonwealth" is being used here. {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 19:37, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
	::Maybe we could cut it up into sections, call the specifically british section "British English" the canadian part "Canadian English" etc. ----[[User:Jeffjman\|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman\|Ma]][[Special:Contributions/Jeffjman\|n]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png\|23px]] 20:02, 9 February 2023 (UTC)		::Maybe we could cut it up into sections, call the specifically british section "British English" the canadian part "Canadian English" etc. ----[[User:Jeffjman\|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman\|Ma]][[Special:Contributions/Jeffjman\|n]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png\|23px]] 20:02, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
		+	::I'm down for sub categories [[User:Guybrush20X6\|Guybrush20X6]] 23:15, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Jeffjman: /* Reviving rename discussion - "Commonwealth" vs "British" */

Jeffjman — Thu, 09 Feb 2023 20:02:34 GMT

Reviving rename discussion - "Commonwealth" vs "British"

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	Because "British English" is more common and a better description for the use of this dialect on Homestar Runner, I think the page name should be changed. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 00:52, 8 February 2023 (UTC)		Because "British English" is more common and a better description for the use of this dialect on Homestar Runner, I think the page name should be changed. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 00:52, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
	:Of those that do mention or imply a specific variety of English, [[sb_email 22]] is in reference to English as spoken in England; [[do over]], while it doesn't mention it in this article, uses "zed" in reference to ''Canadian'' English; and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]] (and by extension, [[Disk 4 of 12 - World Games]]) implies Scottish English. The fact that Canadian English is included and that most of the other references don't specify a variety of English makes me hesitant to rename it to specifically "British English". If there's a different way to say "Non-American varieties of English", perhaps a name like that could work, but despite Wiktionary listing it as an "uncommon" sense, that is the way "Commonwealth" is being used here. {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 19:37, 9 February 2023 (UTC)		:Of those that do mention or imply a specific variety of English, [[sb_email 22]] is in reference to English as spoken in England; [[do over]], while it doesn't mention it in this article, uses "zed" in reference to ''Canadian'' English; and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]] (and by extension, [[Disk 4 of 12 - World Games]]) implies Scottish English. The fact that Canadian English is included and that most of the other references don't specify a variety of English makes me hesitant to rename it to specifically "British English". If there's a different way to say "Non-American varieties of English", perhaps a name like that could work, but despite Wiktionary listing it as an "uncommon" sense, that is the way "Commonwealth" is being used here. {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 19:37, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
		+	::Maybe we could cut it up into sections, call the specifically british section "British English" the canadian part "Canadian English" etc. ----[[User:Jeffjman\|J∃ffJ]][[User_talk:Jeffjman\|Ma]][[Special:Contributions/Jeffjman\|n]][[File:jeffjsigchrismas.png\|23px]] 20:02, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

DEIDATVM: reply

DEIDATVM — Thu, 09 Feb 2023 19:37:21 GMT

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	* The use of this dialect in Homestar Runner tends towards being British if a country is specified. This is most obvious in [[sb_email 22]] (the Wikipedia article notes that {{w\|Scottish English}} is typically counted under the umbrella of British English, which would include the reference to a "23 metre" caber toss as well). Looking at the {{w\|English in the Commonwealth of Nations}} article again - the HRWiki doesn't indicate references to Carribbean, West African, or Indian English.		* The use of this dialect in Homestar Runner tends towards being British if a country is specified. This is most obvious in [[sb_email 22]] (the Wikipedia article notes that {{w\|Scottish English}} is typically counted under the umbrella of British English, which would include the reference to a "23 metre" caber toss as well). Looking at the {{w\|English in the Commonwealth of Nations}} article again - the HRWiki doesn't indicate references to Carribbean, West African, or Indian English.
	Because "British English" is more common and a better description for the use of this dialect on Homestar Runner, I think the page name should be changed. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 00:52, 8 February 2023 (UTC)		Because "British English" is more common and a better description for the use of this dialect on Homestar Runner, I think the page name should be changed. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 00:52, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
		+	:Of those that do mention or imply a specific variety of English, [[sb_email 22]] is in reference to English as spoken in England; [[do over]], while it doesn't mention it in this article, uses "zed" in reference to ''Canadian'' English; and [[Teen Girl Squad Issue 10]] (and by extension, [[Disk 4 of 12 - World Games]]) implies Scottish English. The fact that Canadian English is included and that most of the other references don't specify a variety of English makes me hesitant to rename it to specifically "British English". If there's a different way to say "Non-American varieties of English", perhaps a name like that could work, but despite Wiktionary listing it as an "uncommon" sense, that is the way "Commonwealth" is being used here. {{User:DEIDATVM/sig}} 19:37, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Bleu Ninja: /**/Reviving rename discussion - "Commonwealth" vs "British"

Bleu Ninja — Wed, 08 Feb 2023 00:52:59 GMT

: Reviving rename discussion - "Commonwealth" vs "British"

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	:: I like it. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 06:03, 13 August 2015 (UTC)		:: I like it. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 06:03, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
	::: Still a stub, but definitely keep. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 21:07, 15 August 2015 (UTC)		::: Still a stub, but definitely keep. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 21:07, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
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		+	== Reviving rename discussion - "Commonwealth" vs "British" ==
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		+	I believe '''British English''' would be a better name for this article. This has been mentioned before on the Talk page, looking to revive the discussion and raising a few points:
		+	*The {{p\|l=https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Commonwealth_English Wiktionary article for "Commonwealth English"}} notes that the term is "uncommon" and "rare".
		+	* A cursory Google search (without quotes) for 'commonwealth english' simply returns results for the definition of {{w\|Commonwealth of Nations\|commonwealth}}, by comparison a search for 'british english' returns results about the dialect and spelling.
		+	* Compare the Wikipedia articles for {{w\|British English}} and {{w\|English in the Commonwealth of Nations}} - the Commonwealth article is a brief historical overview of the use of English, while the British article talks about the dialect in great detail.
		+	* The use of this dialect in Homestar Runner tends towards being British if a country is specified. This is most obvious in [[sb_email 22]] (the Wikipedia article notes that {{w\|Scottish English}} is typically counted under the umbrella of British English, which would include the reference to a "23 metre" caber toss as well). Looking at the {{w\|English in the Commonwealth of Nations}} article again - the HRWiki doesn't indicate references to Carribbean, West African, or Indian English.
		+	Because "British English" is more common and a better description for the use of this dialect on Homestar Runner, I think the page name should be changed. --{{User:Bleu Ninja/sig}} 00:52, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Broncotroll: I think there's a keep consensus

Broncotroll — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 21:05:43 GMT

I think there's a keep consensus

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Broncotroll: /* Cleaned up. So, does it make the cut? */

Broncotroll — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 21:07:57 GMT

Cleaned up. So, does it make the cut?

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	:Thanks for the help. I hope your cleanup allows it to look more encyclopedic. [[Special:Contributions/76.102.80.126\|76.102.80.126]] 06:00, 13 August 2015 (UTC)		:Thanks for the help. I hope your cleanup allows it to look more encyclopedic. [[Special:Contributions/76.102.80.126\|76.102.80.126]] 06:00, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
	:: I like it. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 06:03, 13 August 2015 (UTC)		:: I like it. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 06:03, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
		+	::: Still a stub, but definitely keep. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 21:07, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Broncotroll: /* Cleaned up. So, does it make the cut? */

Broncotroll — Thu, 13 Aug 2015 06:03:23 GMT

Cleaned up. So, does it make the cut?

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	Okay, I've removed all the entries which were not actually Commonwealth English and corrected the information in a couple of others. What do people think? Is it worth inclusion at this point, or should it be redeleted? At the moment, I'm '''neutral leaning slightly toward keep'''. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:33, 12 August 2015 (UTC)		Okay, I've removed all the entries which were not actually Commonwealth English and corrected the information in a couple of others. What do people think? Is it worth inclusion at this point, or should it be redeleted? At the moment, I'm '''neutral leaning slightly toward keep'''. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:33, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
	:Thanks for the help. I hope your cleanup allows it to look more encyclopedic. [[Special:Contributions/76.102.80.126\|76.102.80.126]] 06:00, 13 August 2015 (UTC)		:Thanks for the help. I hope your cleanup allows it to look more encyclopedic. [[Special:Contributions/76.102.80.126\|76.102.80.126]] 06:00, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
		+	:: I like it. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 06:03, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

76.102.80.126: /* Cleaned up. So, does it make the cut? */

76.102.80.126 — Thu, 13 Aug 2015 06:00:58 GMT

Cleaned up. So, does it make the cut?

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	Okay, I've removed all the entries which were not actually Commonwealth English and corrected the information in a couple of others. What do people think? Is it worth inclusion at this point, or should it be redeleted? At the moment, I'm '''neutral leaning slightly toward keep'''. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:33, 12 August 2015 (UTC)		Okay, I've removed all the entries which were not actually Commonwealth English and corrected the information in a couple of others. What do people think? Is it worth inclusion at this point, or should it be redeleted? At the moment, I'm '''neutral leaning slightly toward keep'''. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:33, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
		+	:Thanks for the help. I hope your cleanup allows it to look more encyclopedic. [[Special:Contributions/76.102.80.126\|76.102.80.126]] 06:00, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Defender1031: tbd

Defender1031 — Wed, 12 Aug 2015 23:35:59 GMT

tbd

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Defender1031: /**/Cleaned up. So, does it make the cut?

Defender1031 — Wed, 12 Aug 2015 23:33:10 GMT

: Cleaned up. So, does it make the cut?

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	:[[radio#Explanations\|Explanations]]. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 07:38, 12 August 2015 (UTC)		:[[radio#Explanations\|Explanations]]. {{User:The Knights Who Say Ni/sig}} 07:38, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
	:: Ah, 14 pounds. Gotcha. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 08:43, 12 August 2015 (UTC)		:: Ah, 14 pounds. Gotcha. {{User:Broncotroll/sig}} 08:43, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
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		+	== Cleaned up. So, does it make the cut? ==
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		+	Okay, I've removed all the entries which were not actually Commonwealth English and corrected the information in a couple of others. What do people think? Is it worth inclusion at this point, or should it be redeleted? At the moment, I'm '''neutral leaning slightly toward keep'''. {{User:DeFender1031/sig}} 23:33, 12 August 2015 (UTC)