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It's dot com — Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:47:34 GMT

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		+	=== Do The Dew? ===
		+	{{stufffact\|The green drink may be [[Mountain Dew]].}}
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		+	*If you look at the labels next to it is a coke-looking label. The label for the green stuff has some red swooshes that ominously looks like an M, and the real logo has both red and green letters.
		+	**All three logos on the drink dispenser are basically just crude representations of the more famous soda labels. The one for the green drink (plus the drink itself as it's dispensed) immediately calls Mountain Dew to mind.
		+	*[[Mountain Dew]] is a running gag on the site. This is just a continuation.
		+	:*It may have also predated the mountain dew gag; i.e. it may have been the first in a series!
		+	*Moreover, this is similar to Mountain Dude from [[Mellow Mushroom]], which itself is a very obvious reference to Mountain Dew.
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		+	*Speculation.
		+	*It could be any green drink.
		+	*This main page was around a long time before the Mountain Dew gag began, so it seems tenuous to connect the two.
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		+	*Yes, it could be any green drink, but what particular green drink has appeared time after time on the site?
		+	*A question for anyone who eats at Waffle House -- what company's carbonated beverages do they serve, Coca-Cola or PepsiCo? I partially ask because if the soda next to this soda in question is Coke, then if TBC was striving for consistency (I'm sure they weren't, but follow this for a second), would make this drink [http://www.usasoda.com/Cokemello.htm Mello Yello], or possibly [http://www.karks.com/surge/top_01.gif Surge].
		+	**I'm curious: which one of the two is a Mountain Dew copy? One of them is, isn't it?
		+	***Mello Yello copies the flavor; I'm not sure if it has the same amount of caffeine. Surge, I believe, had a similar flavor as well but much more caffeine. I never had Surge, though, so I can't say for sure how close it is overall to Mountain Dew.
		+	****Surge is basically Coke's answer to Mountain Dew. The two drinks are very similar. However, Mountain Dew is the most famous of all these drinks.
		+	**To answer my own question, it appears that looking at a [http://pages.prodigy.net/bote/waffle/whmenu.html menu], Waffle House serves Coca-Cola products. (Which actually makes sense, since Coca-Cola is based in Atlanta.)
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		+	* Makes this a more general Fun Fact that accounts for the likeness of the Coke label.
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		+	* The orange soda is too generic.
		+	* The Mountain Dew-Surge uncertainty further weakens this fact.
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		+	* It would be rather unusual for Mountain Dew and Coke to be next to each other in the same dispenser, as the two products are from competing companies, and both companies usually demand contracts that keep their products separate.
		+	** Even further, the orange soda label seems to be closest to resembling Sunkist, which is owned by Dr<!--not a sic; the official name has no period; please don't edit this--> Pepper/Seven-Up, Inc., and is bottled and distributed by Coke bottlers in some areas, Pepsi bottlers in others, and independent bottlers in even other cases. So if Sunkist were the orange drink, and it appears to be, we'd have three companies' drinks in the three sections.
		+	***So... what? I see alternate companies' drinks all the time in resturaunt soda dispensers.
		+	****Usually (except in very rare circumstances), the only non-Pepsi or non-Coke products at restaurants would be Dr Pepper (I think almost every restaurant usually has that, unless that particular Coke bottler produces Mr. Pibb) or something else bottled by DPSU; I've NEVER seen intermingling of Coke and Pepsi products at a restaurant. Usually the only place you're going to see Coke and Pepsi products in the same dispenser would be at a 7-Eleven or some other type of gas station convenience store.
		+	*****I have seen restaurants with both. That should not be a determining factor here.
		+	*As I pointed out in the Recent Changes text, it's quite possible that TBC simply overlooked this point when they drew the background, so even though in reality you wouldn't likely see Mountain Dew and Coke together, they got put in that way here.
		+	*Also, it's possible that TBC deliberately put the two products together to indicate their own drink preferences or to avoid showing favoritism for one company or another. (This would seem to be contradicted by the later [[Mountain Dew]] running gag.)
		+	*For [[Wikipedia:Orange drink\|orange soda]] my guesses would be: [[Wikipedia:Orange_Crush\|Orange Crush]] and [[Wikipedia:Sunkist (soft drink)\|Sunkist]].
		+	**I don't believe we have enough information to go on here to name the orange soda.
		+	**In addition, I've seen a lot of places that had a generic "Orange Soda" label without naming the brand, but when I tasted the drink, it was clearly something I recognized (like Sunkist, Hi-C, etc). That generic label WOULD appear next to a recognizeable one, like Pepsi or Coke.
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It's dot com: another item

It's dot com — Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:05:29 GMT

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		+	=== Part-Time Jorb? ===
		+	{{stufffact\|It sounds like [[Coach Z]] is saying the orders.}}
		+	{{stuffdata\|[[Main Page 5]]\|16:02, 4 December 2005 (UTC)}}
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		+	*Sure sounds a lot more like Coach Z than a woman!
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		+	*The voice is definitely a female voice.
		+	**Coach Z's voice is also a lot higher than that person's.
		+	*This fact is totally obvious. Who can't tell that it sounds like Coach Z?
		+	*It doesn't sound exactly like him. Maybe it's not Coach Z. It could be someone with a similar accent.
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		+	*Just because it ''sounds'' like Coach Z, it doesn't necessarily mean it ''is'' him.
		+	*The voice need to be compared to his voice in [[In Search of the Yello Dello]], one of the first toons, released about the time of the main page. Voices can evolve too.
		+	*Is anyone likely to have an accent like our Coach Z?
		+	*This fact doesn't say it is Coach Z, it says it sounds like him, which it does.
		+	**No, the way it's currently phrased implies it is Coach Z. To say that it sounds like him it should say "Someone who sounds like Coach Z is saying the orders," making "someone who sounds like Coach Z" one subject. Right now Coach Z alone is the subject of the sentence.
		+	***Huh... oh I get it now....
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It's dot com: STUFF archive

It's dot com — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:50:15 GMT

STUFF archive

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=== Green stuff ===
{{stufffact|The green drink spilled when floating over the Characters button may be a reference to the Characters page on the Mellow Mushroom website.}}
{{stuffdata|[[Main Page 5]]|20:08, 5 December 2005 (UTC)}}

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*Ambiguity
*According to the Internet Archive Wayback Machine listings for [http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.mellowmushroom.com/characters.html the Mellow Mushroom page] and [http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.homestarrunner.com/main5.html Main Page 5], Main Page 5 came first.
*Hmm, that would seem to make this fact patently false. Can it be automatically declined because of this?
*Or perhaps grounds for a fast forward, or at least meantion that this occurance happens twice, quite similarly, between the two pages.
*Wouldn't it be possible that the fact is actually backwards? That the mellow mushroom characters page was based on this gag?
**Yes, I suppose a fast forward would be possible. However, the fact that this fact was losing by a substantial margin even ''before'' we learned that it was based on false premises suggests that such a fact would not be approved by the Wiki.
**(Edit conflict) Right; as it currently stands, it shouldn't even be in voting, but a similar fact coming from the other direction might be valid.


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*I'm not a fan of this fact, but it's been on the page for a while, so I think it deserves a vote.
*Q: Which one came first? MM or this page?


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