Talk:Sony - Revision history

Stux: /* Delete */ slightly very very very late response

2025-07-03T13:23:38Z

Delete: slightly very very very late response

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	::::::::::Should I just delete it then? Or should I wait for some kind of consensus? {{User:Minecraft lover147/sig}} 23:37, 9 June 2023 (UTC)		::::::::::Should I just delete it then? Or should I wait for some kind of consensus? {{User:Minecraft lover147/sig}} 23:37, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
	There are still four examples. Keep. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 00:52, 10 June 2023 (UTC)		There are still four examples. Keep. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 00:52, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
		+	:Sorry for the slightly very very very late response. I'm not sure it's enough to say there's been consensus to delete so far, but Annony's earlier point that this page does not fit the inclusion guidelines makes sense. And I hadn't read or thought of the spoons essay for a while. What baffles me and bothers me a little is that this is a topic that ''almost'' meets the letter of the guidelines (and still not being generic like spoons):
		+	:* There are two [[Walkman]] references, one short of a running gag.
		+	:* There are two [[Playstation]] references, again, one short of a running gag.
		+	:* Together these add up to four, one short of a "generic item".
		+	:Are we sure that there are absolutely no other references to Sony or its products and media in the entire H*R body of work? (For example, [[stand-up]] says Strong Bad's VCR resembles a Betamax. Is this still a valid reference? If so, it should be included here and we'd reach out 5-reference minimum at least.)
		+	:While certainly not as entrenched as [[Nintendo]], I find it hard to think that this topic is "not significant enough" to bear any mention on this wiki. (BTW, I think both links above should be linking to this article, but haven't because of this discussion.) --[[User:Stux\|Stux]] 13:23, 3 July 2025 (UTC)

	== Update ==		== Update ==

	As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 08:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)		As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 08:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Wolf O'Donnel: /* Delete */

2023-06-10T00:52:25Z

Delete

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	::::::::::Should I just delete it then? Or should I wait for some kind of consensus? {{User:Minecraft lover147/sig}} 23:37, 9 June 2023 (UTC)		::::::::::Should I just delete it then? Or should I wait for some kind of consensus? {{User:Minecraft lover147/sig}} 23:37, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
		+	There are still four examples. Keep. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 00:52, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

	== Update ==		== Update ==

	As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 08:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)		As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 08:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Minecraft lover147 at 23:37, 9 June 2023

2023-06-09T23:37:41Z

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	::::::::Four years later: I think the page hasn't been deleted. [[Image:Baby strong bad.png\|20px]][[User:Minecraft lover147\|<b><span style="color:#00ab33;">Minecraft</span><span style="color:#734e00;"> lover147</span></b>]] 16:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)		::::::::Four years later: I think the page hasn't been deleted. [[Image:Baby strong bad.png\|20px]][[User:Minecraft lover147\|<b><span style="color:#00ab33;">Minecraft</span><span style="color:#734e00;"> lover147</span></b>]] 16:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
	:::::::::[[unnatural\|I think we should kill it. I think we should kill it.]] -[[Special:Contributions/113.37.226.89\|113.37.226.89]] 17:08, 9 June 2023 (UTC)		:::::::::[[unnatural\|I think we should kill it. I think we should kill it.]] -[[Special:Contributions/113.37.226.89\|113.37.226.89]] 17:08, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
		+	::::::::::Should I just delete it then? Or should I wait for some kind of consensus? {{User:Minecraft lover147/sig}} 23:37, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

	== Update ==		== Update ==

	As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 08:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)		As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 08:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

113.37.226.89: /* Delete */

2023-06-09T17:08:50Z

Delete

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	:::::::I agree. Don't you think I agree? [[E-mail Birds\|I agree!]] (Yeah, I changed my mind about this. '''Delete'''.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)		:::::::I agree. Don't you think I agree? [[E-mail Birds\|I agree!]] (Yeah, I changed my mind about this. '''Delete'''.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
	::::::::Four years later: I think the page hasn't been deleted. [[Image:Baby strong bad.png\|20px]][[User:Minecraft lover147\|<b><span style="color:#00ab33;">Minecraft</span><span style="color:#734e00;"> lover147</span></b>]] 16:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)		::::::::Four years later: I think the page hasn't been deleted. [[Image:Baby strong bad.png\|20px]][[User:Minecraft lover147\|<b><span style="color:#00ab33;">Minecraft</span><span style="color:#734e00;"> lover147</span></b>]] 16:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
		+	:::::::::[[unnatural\|I think we should kill it. I think we should kill it.]] -[[Special:Contributions/113.37.226.89\|113.37.226.89]] 17:08, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

	== Update ==		== Update ==

	As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 08:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)		As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 08:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Minecraft lover147: /* Delete */

2023-06-09T16:58:26Z

Delete

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	::::::Any thoughts or rebukes? (Same annony) -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.88\|107.77.76.88]] 21:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)		::::::Any thoughts or rebukes? (Same annony) -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.88\|107.77.76.88]] 21:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
	:::::::I agree. Don't you think I agree? [[E-mail Birds\|I agree!]] (Yeah, I changed my mind about this. '''Delete'''.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)		:::::::I agree. Don't you think I agree? [[E-mail Birds\|I agree!]] (Yeah, I changed my mind about this. '''Delete'''.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	::::::::Four years later: I think the page hasn't been deleted. [[Image:Baby strong bad.png\|20px]][[User:Minecraft lover147\|<b><span style="color:#00ab33;">Minecraft</span><span style="color:#734e00;"> lover147</span></b>]] 16:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

	== Update ==		== Update ==

	As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 08:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)		As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 08:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Wolf O'Donnel: /* Update */

2023-06-09T08:50:59Z

Update

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	== Update ==		== Update ==

-	As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it.	+	As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 08:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Wolf O'Donnel: /**/Update

2023-06-09T08:50:41Z

: Update

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	::::::Any thoughts or rebukes? (Same annony) -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.88\|107.77.76.88]] 21:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)		::::::Any thoughts or rebukes? (Same annony) -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.88\|107.77.76.88]] 21:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
	:::::::I agree. Don't you think I agree? [[E-mail Birds\|I agree!]] (Yeah, I changed my mind about this. '''Delete'''.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)		:::::::I agree. Don't you think I agree? [[E-mail Birds\|I agree!]] (Yeah, I changed my mind about this. '''Delete'''.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
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		+	== Update ==
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		+	As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it.

166.137.12.117: Fixing long ago typo (same annony)

2020-06-14T22:36:02Z

Fixing long ago typo (same annony)

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	::::So for generic things to warrant pages, they should have a bare minimum of 5 appearances, and ideally between 5 and 10.		::::So for generic things to warrant pages, they should have a bare minimum of 5 appearances, and ideally between 5 and 10.
	::::First off, the Betamax reference is dubious, and was only added to pages by the creator of this page at around the same time as its creation. I would argue that Strong Sad's VCR resembles [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/N1500_v2.jpg this] model by Phillips as much as any Sony Betamax. In short, it's just a nondescript tape player.		::::First off, the Betamax reference is dubious, and was only added to pages by the creator of this page at around the same time as its creation. I would argue that Strong Sad's VCR resembles [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/N1500_v2.jpg this] model by Phillips as much as any Sony Betamax. In short, it's just a nondescript tape player.
-	::::That leaves the other three instances listed, Walkmans, a Sony product referred ~~two~~ by ~~names~~, and two passing references to things from Playstation. There's not a lot to connect the first two the other two. Most of the pages Stux listed are classic gaming companies. A more focused page on just [[Playstation]] would seem to fit better, but there are only 2 references to it. As it stands, Sony is just too broad and uninteresting to make a good page, and it falls short of the number of appearances to warrant one. -[[Special:Contributions/174.62.238.201\|174.62.238.201]] 21:09, 5 January 2019 (UTC)	+	::::That leaves the other three instances listed, Walkmans, a Sony product referred to by name (twice), and two passing references to things from Playstation. There's not a lot to connect the first two the other two. Most of the pages Stux listed are classic gaming companies. A more focused page on just [[Playstation]] would seem to fit better, but there are only 2 references to it. As it stands, Sony is just too broad and uninteresting to make a good page, and it falls short of the number of appearances to warrant one. -[[Special:Contributions/174.62.238.201\|174.62.238.201]] 21:09, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
	::::::Any thoughts or rebukes? (Same annony) -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.88\|107.77.76.88]] 21:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)		::::::Any thoughts or rebukes? (Same annony) -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.88\|107.77.76.88]] 21:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
	:::::::I agree. Don't you think I agree? [[E-mail Birds\|I agree!]] (Yeah, I changed my mind about this. '''Delete'''.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)		:::::::I agree. Don't you think I agree? [[E-mail Birds\|I agree!]] (Yeah, I changed my mind about this. '''Delete'''.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

RickTommy at 06:30, 24 July 2019

2019-07-24T06:30:12Z

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	==Delete==		==Delete==
	This page was nominated for deletion by an anonymous user with the rationale "Generic, not h*r-specific, not notable" (this were the nominator's arguments; they are not necessarily my own). — [[User:It's dot com\|It's dot com]] 21:49, 3 January 2019 (UTC)		This page was nominated for deletion by an anonymous user with the rationale "Generic, not h*r-specific, not notable" (this were the nominator's arguments; they are not necessarily my own). — [[User:It's dot com\|It's dot com]] 21:49, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
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	::::That leaves the other three instances listed, Walkmans, a Sony product referred two by names, and two passing references to things from Playstation. There's not a lot to connect the first two the other two. Most of the pages Stux listed are classic gaming companies. A more focused page on just [[Playstation]] would seem to fit better, but there are only 2 references to it. As it stands, Sony is just too broad and uninteresting to make a good page, and it falls short of the number of appearances to warrant one. -[[Special:Contributions/174.62.238.201\|174.62.238.201]] 21:09, 5 January 2019 (UTC)		::::That leaves the other three instances listed, Walkmans, a Sony product referred two by names, and two passing references to things from Playstation. There's not a lot to connect the first two the other two. Most of the pages Stux listed are classic gaming companies. A more focused page on just [[Playstation]] would seem to fit better, but there are only 2 references to it. As it stands, Sony is just too broad and uninteresting to make a good page, and it falls short of the number of appearances to warrant one. -[[Special:Contributions/174.62.238.201\|174.62.238.201]] 21:09, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
	::::::Any thoughts or rebukes? (Same annony) -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.88\|107.77.76.88]] 21:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)		::::::Any thoughts or rebukes? (Same annony) -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.88\|107.77.76.88]] 21:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
-	:::::::I agree. Don't you think I agree? [[E-mail Birds\|I agree!]] (Yeah, I changed my mind about this. '''Delete'''.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 19:19, ~~5 January~~ 2019 (UTC)	+	:::::::I agree. Don't you think I agree? [[E-mail Birds\|I agree!]] (Yeah, I changed my mind about this. '''Delete'''.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Gfdgsgxgzgdrc: delete

2019-05-03T01:36:58Z

delete

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	::::That leaves the other three instances listed, Walkmans, a Sony product referred two by names, and two passing references to things from Playstation. There's not a lot to connect the first two the other two. Most of the pages Stux listed are classic gaming companies. A more focused page on just [[Playstation]] would seem to fit better, but there are only 2 references to it. As it stands, Sony is just too broad and uninteresting to make a good page, and it falls short of the number of appearances to warrant one. -[[Special:Contributions/174.62.238.201\|174.62.238.201]] 21:09, 5 January 2019 (UTC)		::::That leaves the other three instances listed, Walkmans, a Sony product referred two by names, and two passing references to things from Playstation. There's not a lot to connect the first two the other two. Most of the pages Stux listed are classic gaming companies. A more focused page on just [[Playstation]] would seem to fit better, but there are only 2 references to it. As it stands, Sony is just too broad and uninteresting to make a good page, and it falls short of the number of appearances to warrant one. -[[Special:Contributions/174.62.238.201\|174.62.238.201]] 21:09, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
	::::::Any thoughts or rebukes? (Same annony) -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.88\|107.77.76.88]] 21:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)		::::::Any thoughts or rebukes? (Same annony) -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.88\|107.77.76.88]] 21:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	:::::::I agree. Don't you think I agree? [[E-mail Birds\|I agree!]] (Yeah, I changed my mind about this. '''Delete'''.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 19:19, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

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	:::::::I agree. Don't you think I agree? [[E-mail Birds\|I agree!]] (Yeah, I changed my mind about this. '''Delete'''.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)		:::::::I agree. Don't you think I agree? [[E-mail Birds\|I agree!]] (Yeah, I changed my mind about this. '''Delete'''.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
	::::::::Four years later: I think the page hasn't been deleted. [[Image:Baby strong bad.png\|20px]][[User:Minecraft lover147\|<b><span style="color:#00ab33;">Minecraft</span><span style="color:#734e00;"> lover147</span></b>]] 16:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)		::::::::Four years later: I think the page hasn't been deleted. [[Image:Baby strong bad.png\|20px]][[User:Minecraft lover147\|<b><span style="color:#00ab33;">Minecraft</span><span style="color:#734e00;"> lover147</span></b>]] 16:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
		+	:::::::::[[unnatural\|I think we should kill it. I think we should kill it.]] -[[Special:Contributions/113.37.226.89\|113.37.226.89]] 17:08, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

	== Update ==		== Update ==

	As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 08:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)		As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 08:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

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	::::::Any thoughts or rebukes? (Same annony) -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.88\|107.77.76.88]] 21:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)		::::::Any thoughts or rebukes? (Same annony) -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.88\|107.77.76.88]] 21:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
	:::::::I agree. Don't you think I agree? [[E-mail Birds\|I agree!]] (Yeah, I changed my mind about this. '''Delete'''.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)		:::::::I agree. Don't you think I agree? [[E-mail Birds\|I agree!]] (Yeah, I changed my mind about this. '''Delete'''.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 01:36, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	::::::::Four years later: I think the page hasn't been deleted. [[Image:Baby strong bad.png\|20px]][[User:Minecraft lover147\|<b><span style="color:#00ab33;">Minecraft</span><span style="color:#734e00;"> lover147</span></b>]] 16:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

	== Update ==		== Update ==

	As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 08:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)		As you can see, I removed the VCR from the list. It even clearly says VHS on it. [[User:Wolf O'Donnel\|Wolf O'Donnel]] 08:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

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	::::That leaves the other three instances listed, Walkmans, a Sony product referred two by names, and two passing references to things from Playstation. There's not a lot to connect the first two the other two. Most of the pages Stux listed are classic gaming companies. A more focused page on just [[Playstation]] would seem to fit better, but there are only 2 references to it. As it stands, Sony is just too broad and uninteresting to make a good page, and it falls short of the number of appearances to warrant one. -[[Special:Contributions/174.62.238.201\|174.62.238.201]] 21:09, 5 January 2019 (UTC)		::::That leaves the other three instances listed, Walkmans, a Sony product referred two by names, and two passing references to things from Playstation. There's not a lot to connect the first two the other two. Most of the pages Stux listed are classic gaming companies. A more focused page on just [[Playstation]] would seem to fit better, but there are only 2 references to it. As it stands, Sony is just too broad and uninteresting to make a good page, and it falls short of the number of appearances to warrant one. -[[Special:Contributions/174.62.238.201\|174.62.238.201]] 21:09, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
	::::::Any thoughts or rebukes? (Same annony) -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.88\|107.77.76.88]] 21:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)		::::::Any thoughts or rebukes? (Same annony) -[[Special:Contributions/107.77.76.88\|107.77.76.88]] 21:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
		+	:::::::I agree. Don't you think I agree? [[E-mail Birds\|I agree!]] (Yeah, I changed my mind about this. '''Delete'''.) {{User:Gfdgsgxgzgdrc/sig‎}} 19:19, 5 January 2019 (UTC)