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[edit] No swearing, huh?

Talk:record book Now, I'm trying real hard here to see what you're getting at, but I can't for the life of me spot ANY swearing in there. Care to point it out to me?

Look more closely. — It's dot com 00:21, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

What r you speekin aboot? Any who, Hay dot man? wana add your speechin to my talk payj? Thechamp 22:23, 5 Aug 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry for the edit

Ya that was stupid of me, I just wanted to see if anyone would notice it and change it. I promise nothing of the sort will happen again. Sox101

Oh, we've got eyes in the back of our heads! Seriously, thanks for apologizing. I trust you'll be more careful in the future. — It's dot com 02:42, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Block

what does it take to ban someone? Lil Stiny 02:39, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

That depends. Why do you ask? — It's dot com
i just fixed some vandalism and i was wondering Lil Stiny 02:42, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Well, here is our official blocking policy. Whenever you notice vandalism, leave a note on HRWiki:WikiTroll. Try to follow the format as best you can, but don't worry if you don't get it quite right (someone will fix it for you). The sysops check that page and block vandals and trolls listed there. Hope that helps. Oh, and I went ahead and took care of the guy you mentioned. Thanks for looking out for the wiki! — It's dot com 02:55, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Geddup Noise

It's dot com, it's getting pretty ugly over here at geddup noise. There is a constant revert/add between whether the KOT says Booo or Dooo. Maybe someone should add a footnote about the transcript, like in boring (really). — Lapper (talk) 01:36, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Encountering trolls

Uh... I think i just found a troll. What do i do? --— hr.pngBubsty My talk 21:17, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

First things first... what did you find? — It's dot com
Oh wait, dorian gray deleted it, i think. It was on the user page User:Aussie Evil. --— hr.pngBubsty My talk 21:20, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Oh good, thanks for blockin them. --— hr.pngBubsty My talk 21:25, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Below are some general suggestions for anyone who might be faced with this issue in the future. — It's dot com 21:40, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

If you find a troll, especially one in progress:

  • Revert each affected page to the last good version (the instructions for reverting are at the top of HRWiki:WikiTroll).
  • Use the edit comment "reverting trolling". This will help the sysops notice something is wrong.
  • Make an entry on HRWiki:WikiTroll for the troll. If no sysops are around at the time of the vandalism, they can check the list and make appropriate blocks later.

Some things to remember, especially in the face of a serious attack:

  • Remain calm.
  • Remain professional.

Some things not to do:

  • Do not feed the trolls.
  • That is, do not put anything in edit summaries that would encourage them to continue their attacks.
  • Likewise, do not try to reason with them or taunt them on their talk pages.

Hope that helps! — It's dot com

It does, thanks!!!! --— hr.pngBubsty My talk 22:14, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Confounded

Hey Dot Com! What's up? I'm leaving you a message cuz I was noticing this user's contributions and they seemed strange... at best. His messages seemed almost nonsensical, and one of the most recent posts, seemed somewhat inappropriate to me. And so, once again, I run to you for sound advice and a second opinion. Thanks! --Stux 21:37, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

I actually noticed that particular edit. It seems, strange, at best. At worst, it could be labeled as harassment. It was right to come to Dot Com. — Lapper (talk) 21:41, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
maybe he is related to Homesar (the character, if any user is name homesar, then I apologize) 18px-Featuredstarsmall.png I R F 18px-Featuredstarsmall.png 21:43, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I discussed the matter with JoeyDay, and we decided to block him for four days and revert the edit. — It's dot com 22:00, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Devil's advocate here, but shouldn't that type of be a warning? Say he's only 11 and just an annoying kid but given a warning would stop, but on the other hand, he comes back tomorrow and is blocked and therefore doesn't come back anymore. I think there should be some standard of the severity of punishment to refer to. 18px-Featuredstarsmall.png I R F 18px-Featuredstarsmall.png 22:04, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Personal attacks are not tolerated. It's as simple as that. Joey briefly mentioned perhaps just giving a warning, but after looking at the contribs agreed that a temporary block was in order. We've dealt with this guy's strangeness before. Thanks for asking questions, though. — It's dot com 22:11, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for straightening this out. I am glad to know I wasn't the only one who felt the post was inappropriate.--Stux 22:17, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
As an addendum, I realize that he might not realize he was being offensive, perhaps because he's too young or immature. But that's not what I care about. I care about keeping this wiki a place where someone doesn't have to worry about that kind of thing showing up on his or her talk page. If someone isn't old enough to use the wiki responsibly and sensitively, then perhaps that person should stick to reading pages. — It's dot com
I don't know if this matters much, but the remarks that user made seem to stem from this discussion. As you can see, AbdiViklas and I suggested that the discussion should stop, but some kept going on it. I wish there were a way to get people to stop doing this sort of thing. Not that it excuses the blocked user, though. Heimstern Läufer 08:29, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh, I knew full well what he was referring to, which is why my actions were such that they were. — It's dot com 03:22, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Cool. Heimstern Läufer 06:56, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] NSMC

Ben - what in the name of crap happened with this NSMC trollbot thing? I haven't been here in a while, I come back, some robot has tried to ruin everything...it's some Matrix type lunacy here, except instead of Keanu Reeves trying to save Zion, it's some hacker trying to save his own sense of worth! Hope you guys can triumph over the (repetitive) forces of evil. — THE SMOKING MONKEY 02:48, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

And this wiki was relatively fortunate to have had some sentries on duty at the time of the attack, so we weren't down for long. (Although, if that sitenotice is still up there, then we haven't fully recovered yet.) Other wikis I know of had nearly 100 percent of their pages (at least temporarily) erased. — It's dot com 03:11, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Hmmm - so it's some organized, or well-thought-out, anti-wiki measure? Seems like a techno-power trip to me. I'm glad we weren't too badly hurt, though. — THE SMOKING MONKEY 03:40, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] More crappy stuff

Hooray to Abdi, but I'd still like to bring this to your attention. The precedent I've seen is to delete the section entirely but I am not the experienced on in these matters. Concerned, --Stux 00:16, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, my first thought was to simply delete his edit, but I thought I remembered something about preferring strike-throughs on talk pages. Plus the "aka Riley" part suggests that maybe they know each other in real life or from elsewhere. (But even if the Col. was making a good-natured in-joke, the wiki isn't the place for it.) —AbdiViklas 00:37, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
My better judgment told me that it should be removed, and I did so accordingly, and moved your reply to his talk page. If I have overstepped my bounds (Dot com, Tom, or any of the other admins) then you may revert my changes, please accept my apologies, and inform me of the proper procedure. I felt it would be best that the comment not be ther in order to not allow things to escalate. Thanks! --Stux 00:42, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
That whole thread was weird. I don't think the user who was accused is technically capable of what he was accused of (unless he's deliberately trying to appear younger than he is). I personally don't have a problem with removing (rather than striking out) things that never should have been here in the first place, and this is probably a case where it's okay to just delteat it. Let me know if anything else develops on this matter. Thanks. — It's dot com 15:40, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
Right; I didn't want to say that on his own talk page, though ("Actually, I don't think someone who can't spell or communicate coherently in writing could do that!"). —AbdiViklas 16:16, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The M word

What's wrong with merde? Isn't it just "crap" in french? Is khara better? — Elcool (talk)(contribs) 17:47, 13 December 2005 (UTC) (P.S.: You really need to archive your page. It takes too much to load.)

Archive? What's that? And it may be "crap" in French, but it's also (and probably better known as) "s—". — It's dot com 17:55, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
The situation is quite similar in German: there's a word that's pretty mild in that language, probably equivalent to the English "crap", but it's often translated as (and is a cognate of) the S-word. What's really interesting is that the and phrases that actually are offensive in German usually don't translate to anything offensive in English. For example, the extremely offensive phrase "Du hast einen Vogel!" translates to "You have a bird (i.e., in your head)!" Weird, eh? Heimstern Läufer 18:19, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] IP

i have a suspicioun that trendy totebag and seriously are acually one on the same, is there a way to find out for sure? Ciberdude444 12:43, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, we're not. Thank you for playing. We do have a lovely consolation prize for you though.--Trendy Totebag 19:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
"One and the same". It would take some digging to find out. What makes you think so? — It's dot com 15:49, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
can't you just match the i.p.s? Ciberdude444 00:15, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
No, it's not as simple as that. And you didn't answer my question. — It's dot com 00:21, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
ok, he is a "friend" of seriously and he seems obsessed with saying that he knows seriously, he keeps saying that he will name him for sysops, and he vandalized my site the only other person to do that was seriously. plus i didnt find anywhere when seriously tells totebag that i trolled his page. Ciberdude444 01:57, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

so can u figure it out? Ciberdude444 00:04, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll keep an eye on it. — It's dot com 00:08, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
just how complecated is the prosses of finding out? Ciberdude444 00:09, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
we are not one and the same, or one on the same for that matter. even if you checked the ip adresses, you would find out we are not. i welcomed him to the wiki. he gos to my school in buffalo, new york. there is no suspicion to talk about. Seriously 02:27, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Assuming that's true, then you don't have anything to worry about—except leaving each other alone. — It's dot com 04:01, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
i am. goodbye. see you fellow wikians later. Seriously 04:06, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

I think I can explain this. The reason I want to nominate Will for sysop is just because we're friends. I talk as if I know him because I do know him. We go to the same school, and I am used to talking as if I know him, because I do. I trolled Ciberdude's page because I really didn't know the rules, and Will said he was a jerk. From Ciberdude's userpage, I'm starting to believe him again. Hope that solves all problems, and sorry for all the trouble.--Trendy Totebag 19:10, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seriously and I are not the Same person for goodness sakes!

Well, Dot com it has come to my attention that Will is getting pretty worked up about something or other including you and Ciberdude444 getting all up on him, and you getting the notion that we are the same person. This is getting ridiculous. Oh, and have you seen how ciberdork dissed us on his userpage? This is getting to the point where I might have to take action.--Trendy Totebag 16:02, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't recall ever saying that you were the same person, only that I would look into it. See my reply in the next section for more important comments. — It's dot com 22:42, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] help!

dude, my user page has somehow been merged with trendy totebags user page and idon't understand it and i just want my user page back to normal and whenever i try to edit it i somehow end up editing trendy totebag's user page! see for yourself! ahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! Seriously 15:10, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Whats up with that?!? What is this outrage?!? I blame the media?!? Ok, lets get serious now, this has gotta stop. I've had enough of this nonsense.--Trendy Totebag 15:56, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Fix it now.--Trendy Totebag 15:56, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Guys, I think I've fixed it. Seriously, you put curly braces like this: {{User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag}}. That replicates the entire page. What you needed were square brackets: [[User:Trendy Totebag|Trendy Totebag]]. That makes a link to his page. But guys, you really shouldn't panic like this. Seriously, you know how to revert things, right? You can just revert to a previous form of your page if something goes wrong. Furthermore, both of you seem to have been rather sharp with Dot com, as though this were his fault or something, especially Trendy Totebag's last comment. Please try to keep under control! Heimstern Läufer 16:14, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Hey, i didn't even know what happened. I figured it was a problem that could only be solved by me breaking things. Actually, I didn't really know what was going on, but recently Will told me that Ciberdude444 was telling Its dot com that we were the same person, and when I found out about this, my first reaction was to think that It's dot com actually believed the... well... "Ciberdude" I really should have more trust in that guy. Of late, It's dot com has been bugging me to get rid of stuff that either doesn't exist, or I have no clue or no power to get rid of. And Ciberdude has been dumping on us of late, and he seems to be on It's dot com's good side. I think that about sums it up.--Trendy Totebag 17:33, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Please excuse trendy. he is being very rude. i am extremely grateful for your help, its dot com and heimstern. trendy seems to think this is your fault, but it was mine. its dot com, i did not mean to be sharp with you. i left this note on your talk page because i thought you would be the most reliable. Seriously 17:37, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Oh, well thanks Will. All I've been for the past few hours is confused, thinking it is one person's fault, and then anothers. Then you go and e-mail me saying the oposite of what you are saying here. I really don't want to say that this is suckupery, I really don't, but your last few emails were quite the opposite of what was said here. As for me, I've just been getting pretty ticked about this whole ciberdude thing. Will someone just tell me what the heck is going on? Please?--Trendy Totebag 19:05, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Seems like by now you are fairly aware of what's going on, but I thought I'd comment. First of all, some The-Sphinx-style paradoxical advice: Things happen quickly on a wiki. And things happen slowly on a wiki. What I mean is stuff can go down and things can change overnight; on the other hand, if you're waiting on someone to do something, it's not going to be instantaneous, and it's reasonable to give it a day or two at least. Secondly, with regard to C.d.444 and any other instances of "emergency" on the wiki: really, there isn't any such thing. (As emergency, I mean.) Anything can be reverted; short of nuclear war destroying any and all servers which host or back up the wiki, nothing's really going to hurt it. That means it's okay to chill. And in cases involving disputes, or any dealings with other users, chilling is a very, very good thing. If someone says something bad about you, their intent is mainly that you notice it and respond. "Revenge" is a form of response, and ultimately fulfils their request. And in this context, if you just sit back and relax, it's pretty much guaranteed that someone else will fix the offense without you having to lift a finger. And in this case, given It's dot com's sorta informal restraining order on the concerned parties, that's the only appropriate response. Now if we were in Lord of the Flies or something, and didn't have awesome sysops running a tight ship, then yeah, you'd have to fight your own battles or get your skull smashed by a rock. But thankfully we're not. —AbdiViklas 21:37, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
AbdiViklas is right. Everything is fine with your page. Nothing is ruined. No need to freak out, especially when it was self-action that led to the problem, not anything someone else did.
    Trendy Totebag, I must tell you I don't like your tone at all. In fact, your comments in the section right above this one sound like a threat. Suffice it to say I believe it is a very bad idea to threaten any of the sysops around here, or any user for that matter. I am going to let it slide this time because you are new, but you should know by now that you are not in a position to assume or demand anything. As an administrator, I have pledged to treat everyone as fairly as possible, and the reason Ciberdude444 is on my good side right now is that he has, for the most part, complied with my instructions. The only reason he put those links on his user page is that you decided to troll it. (And, incidentally, I have asked him to remove them.) You seem to have lost sight of the fact that this wiki is not set up to be your personal webpage. This is an encyclopedia about Homestar Runner, and anyone who is going to contribute here needs to keep that in mind.
    In the future, Seriously, technical problems with your user page should be directed to HRWiki talk:FAQ. Thanks. — It's dot com 23:22, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, I didn't mean a threat or any disrespect, or half of what I said.--Trendy Totebag 00:10, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

okay. thank you. reverting edits just didn't come to my mind at the moment. and trendy means well. it's just that i am a horrible instructor who tought him exactly what abdiviklas didn't, that you should lose sight of the goal of our wiki and concentrate on who ticks you off the most or who has the biggest guestbook. for that, i apoligize. i will no longer agknowledge the existence of ciberdude444. nor will trendy. Seriously 02:13, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Well this is (not) nice...

I'd just like to bring this to your attention: [1]. --Stux 03:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that. I don't know what that guy's deal is. He is addressing Coder, so I'd prefer she be the one to respond to him. That edit could be called trolling (in the true sense of the word), but it's not vandalism. Until and unless he causes more, bigger trouble, I'ma stay out of it. — It's dot com 04:12, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
I was thinking it was more along the lines of harassment. --Stux 04:43, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Still, if she wants to block him, she has the power. — It's dot com 04:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Yeah. Very well I just thought I'd bring that up. Have a good night. --Stux 04:55, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for bringing it up. I'll be keeping an eye on that guy for sure. ;) — It's dot com 05:09, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
This guy has some kind of anger management problem, and I think not responding to him is the best course of action. I don't even know where he gets this stuff; I've never blocked him (although I did warn him that he might be blocked for mucking up the Sandbox), called him any names (especially not "incredibly gay" - all the people I've known who are actually incredibly gay are far more mature than that guy ;) ), or confused him with Willy on Wheels. If he wants to periodically upchuck on my talk page, whatever. Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 20:14, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Apparantly this is all because of this revert. I'm really confused as to how posting a few images constitutes two to three hours work as well as hating Homestar Coder for reverting it. Additionally, it didn't really fit; those images were all over the place. — Lapper (talk) 01:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought I explained reasonably that the pictures made the page cluttery; at the time, I was also trying to get that page deleted as I considered it redundant with Category:Character Evolution. *shrug* Homestar Coderhomestar-coder-sig.gif 01:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The ongoing saga

um, someone left a message on my talk page stating that it was weird that trendy totebag did not sign on while i was blocked. i know i may be wrong, but i suspect the anonymous user was, well, you know enough to figure it out. the writing, the splling....it's all the same. you probably can't match the ip addresses, but i would like it if you did. or he just didn't leave a sig, and you can check the contribs. thank you. Seriously (Talk) 21:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Um, there's really no mystery, since he was logged in when he made that edit. I have taken care of it. *sigh* — It's dot com 22:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, you must be tired of our bickering. It seems i am stupid enough to not stop until i get blocked, so i guess i deserved to be. ah well. Seriously (Talk) 00:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
I don't mean to rub it in, but EIGHT MINUTES?! Nice, real nice. Eight min. is all it takes to get blocked. Seriously (Talk) 01:03, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] trolling

Just so I can learn the game a little more, how did you know that those last few blocks were Yeltensic, I looked in the user contribs and didn't see much. Teach me OB1, your my only hope :-P 18px-Featuredstarsmall.png I R F 18px-Featuredstarsmall.png 16:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, often times he makes a remark that identifies him as, in fact, yeltensic. If he didn't do that, then I'll step aside and let dot comster answer this. Seriously (Talk) 17:22, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I just looked at the blcok log, and I have to admit I am confused. He must have matched the IP addresses. Also, there are two new users that are created. How do we know they're not yeltensic? Seriously (Talk)

User:18593095NSMC90531234 wasn't trolling. I heard about the NSMC people but mabe this wasn't. The thing Talking is fun. 22:03, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes he was. I didn't say vandalism, I said trolling. — It's dot com 22:06, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
How? The thing Talking is fun.
I agree with The thing on this one. Even though he might look like NSMC at first glance, take a look at the article on Uncyclopedia about our wiki. At the near bottom, it says "If you happen to be new, register with the username: 18593095NSMC90531234 - Trust me, it'll be fun." This is the exact same username. It seems to me that this guy just didn't know anything about NSMC or this wiki and got Punk'd. He wasn't doing anything bad (yet), so why block him because of "trolling"? Although I would suggest that he get a better username. — Has Matt? (talk) 22:11, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Yea. The thing Talking is fun. 22:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
LLok at this North Shore Medical Center same first letters. The thing Talking is fun.
I know exactly where he got the username, and it's the reason I knew what his intentions were. Trolling is the (usually intentional) provocation of a person or community with the aim of getting a negative reaction. Even if he just did it on a lark (which I doubt), he should know better than to blindly follow instructions he came across in a place like that. — It's dot com 22:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] seriosly

i dont think its fair to bann me every tiem I talk to seriously, he is a big user on the wiki and if i am to become a good contributor i will have to stop pretending he doesnt exist. i think i've been banned enough to know not to fight with him.— CiberDude 22:57, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

I think your mom goes to college is not the person who sent this. But that's just me. Seriously (Talk) 23:24, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fanstuff Troll

Really bad troll attacking for 2 days at the fanstuff wiki, Joshua says he needs help. Riley

What do you mean? I'm not sure that dot comster is a sysop there. If he is, please elaborate. Seriously (Talk) 00:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, he is. Riley
Seriously: This is the third time in a row you have replied to messages on my page that weren't addressed to you. And in two of the three times, your reply was either wrong or didn't give any useful information. Please let me have the opportunity to reply to my own messages. Thank you. — It's dot com 00:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Riley: What's this guy's deal? Is he Clan or someone who just doesn't like Clan? What course of action would you like me to take? — It's dot com 00:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

It's dot com: Sorry. Just trying to be helpful. Seriously (Talk) 00:29, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Um, he stopped, joshua wanted me to tell you earlier. Riley
I enabled some more security that should limit him to one new vandal account at a time, and I scrubbed out some of the filthier usernames. — It's dot com 01:49, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ciberdude444

im not ciberdude, hes my brother, my computer is auto loged on and he used it to post that talk, i didnt say anyhting cause of the warm welcome i had at the wiki compared to my brother's fued and destruction it was better not to connect me with him in any way. — Your Mom Gosh! 20:31, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent block

Umm... are you sure that IP you blocked recently is the right guy? Because I checked his contribs and he hasn't done anything vaguely trollish. Except, maybe for editing Tampo's sig and page, but Tampo din't seem to mind, which leads me to believe he is Tampo. If he's not, he still seems like a fine user. Any reason why you blocked him? — Has Matt? (talk) 23:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

  • 24.77.42.48 has created an account as A fweakin' chair
  • 24.77.42.48 has created an account as Reverted
  • 24.77.42.48 has created an account as Christian
Yep, I'm pretty sure. — It's dot com 23:24, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

You've blocked a troll with the same IP adress as Tampo. He is blocked for no reason. Stongbah

Yea! --The thing Talking is fun. 20:10, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
The IP in question was not blocked for no reason. It was being used (as you can see above) to create multiple accounts in a short amount of time, which were then being used for vandalism. I will unblock the IP for now, but I'll be keeping an eye on it. P.S. The thing: Exactly what was the point of your post? — It's dot com 20:29, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
I have no idea just kinda wanted to be in the conversation. --The thing Talking is fun. 20:32, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NSMC thing

What's the purpose of that page? Also, why'd you delete the talk page for it? Seriously (Talk) 17:45, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Also, I'd like to congrat yoyu on the amazing amount of users you've managed to obtain. Truly amazing. Seriously (Talk) 17:48, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
"Amount of users"? What? — It's dot com 17:49, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I mean the amount of sockpuppets that NSMC created. You just made a page listing all of the addresses. It looked cool. Seriously (Talk) 17:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Oh. Well, for an explanation of the page, see the section in A History. I deleted the talk page because it was a user talk page, and therefore comments on it weren't addressed to me but to the vandal. — It's dot com 18:00, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I find this extremely interesting. Y'know, I was here when NSMC hit. I didn't know how revert it, though, so I just didn't go on the Cheat Commandos section. Of Cuorse, that wasn't enough. Seriously (Talk) 18:02, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Smoking Monkey's talk page

Why isn't what he did bad to you? Before you say no, let me explain. First of all, he embarassed me and The thing on his talk page on purpose, second of all, he said apology's to dot com, which means he knew this would have a certain outcome to certain people like me, you (which for some reason you find fine), and the thing. This is a perfect example of premeditated malice. And third of all, would you like it if someone made fun of you on their talk page for everyone to see? Seriously (Talk) 21:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I have asked The Smoking Monkey to revert or remove the thread. If you find it insulting, then it is a personal attack, which we don't want. I assure you this was not The Smoking Monkey's intent, but that is beside the point. Let me take this opportunity, however, to suggest that learning to laugh at one's self is one of the most difficult yet rewarding things a person can do. In addition, I think you should stop apologizing and start adding more content to this site. Whenever I click on your contribs, I notice that over the last week your user talk contribs outnumber your main namespace contribs 7 to 1. — It's dot com 22:07, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
yes. I understand. Also, I've been adding to the wooky (a major overhaul of the site just because I feel sorry for it), so I havn't had much of a chance. Seriously (Talk) 22:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The thing

Now that he's unblocked, I'm thinking you can put that template for his block reason on his talk page. Seriously (Talk) 22:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

The thing has recently vandalized a wiki. Check Benol's talk page for info. I suggest you block him, as per your rule posted on the main page. Thanks. — Seriously (Talk) 16:53, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I LOVE this wiki the trolling was my evil cousin! Plus it wasn't this wiki. I swear I'm crying right now. --The thing Talking is fun. 16:55, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
You should have thought about that BEFORE You trolled!!!-- Benol, aka Coach B 16:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Please I'm really sorry! That was my evil cousin! --The thing Talking is fun. 16:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm crying harder than I ever have before! :'-( --The thing Talking is fun. 17:01, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry. Nothing we can do. — Seriously (Talk) 17:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Please I LOVE this wiki! --The thing Talking is fun. 17:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
You probably won't be Permanently blocked.-- Benol, aka Coach B 17:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm to sorry to even say it in words! --The thing Talking is fun. 17:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Look, you guys. I'm pretty sure all this trolling went on before Dot com posted that message on the Main Page talk. Besides, he's now trying extremely hard to clean up the mess he's made, so he obviously knows what he did is wrong. Therefore, will a block really do anything to help this situation? I think not. — Has Matt? (talk) 17:06, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Do u see how hard I'm trying to get rid of the vandalizm! --The thing Talking is fun. 17:07, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Ok guys, The thing has more than repented for that vandalism. Seriously, I suggest that you keep your nose out of matters that do not involve you. The thing is currently reverting the vandalism with extreme diligence, and this situation is misunderstood by both Benol and Seriously. Rogue Leader / (my talk) 01:39, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
It wasn't that I was not minding my own business, but I saw many changes to Benol's talk page on the recent changes and decided to see what was up about it. I only meant to help, and I'm sorry if I failed to do so. — Seriously (Talk) 12:34, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
I wasn't party to this at all, so I don't really know what happened in this particular case. But I will say this: I said once before that I thought the ops here were being too lenient on The Thing, as he's had a history of vandalism and trolling in the past, and everyone seems to be very quick to defend him. (Lots of "I'm sorry's" and "I won't do it again!'s".) I don't deny he's also made good edits here, but I have not seen discipline executed equally to him as has been to others who've done similar things, or less. That's kinda frustrating to see. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 18:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

You all need to complain to your teachers for not teaching you how to read. While you're at it, Seriously and The thing, go ahead and post a mailing address where I can send a bill to your parents for babysitting you. On the main page talk, I said that anyone caught vandalizing in our name would be dealt with. I have neither the time nor the resources to try and police other wikis. The message regarding other wikis means that if you vandalize Uncyclopedia, for example, in retaliation for something that happens here, then at that point you are speaking for all of us here, and I care very much that you don't do that. But random vandalism doesn't concern me. To The thing: I can't believe that you think vandalism is funny, especially given that you're an administrator at a wiki. To Seriously: you need to learn what is and what isn't important, and stop being such a tattletale. And stop speaking for me. In one place you say "No matter what, you must get blocked." You have neither the authority nor the experience to be making claims like that. To KieferSkunk: The thing didn't actually do anything (in this case) to harm our wiki or its good name, and therefore there are no grounds for blocking him. (And he has been blocked recently by BazookaJoe for spamming.) To anyone who needs to hear this: Stop vandalizing. Stop behaving so immaturely (and don't blame your actions on your age; I know several young good contributors). Wiki usage is not a right; it's a privilege. And for goodness' sake, stop apologizing. You've said you're sorry so much that the words have no meaning. Let your future actions be your apology. That's all for now. — It's dot com 21:38, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

In reply to your comment to me: I understand, and I'm not asking for him to be blocked in this case. I was making a more general comment about The Thing's history, seeing as how I have witnessed vandalism from him in the past and saw people, even sysops, defending him and going way out of their way to reason with him, rather than treating him as a vandal. I didn't understand it at the time, and I still don't, so I left my comments on the matter at "I think you're being too lenient with him". This was mainly just a follow-up on that, more to mention that I'm not surprised another "incident" has come up than anything else. That's all. — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 22:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Well, unless an account is being used for nothing but vandalism, then reasoning should always be exhausted before blocking is implemented. — It's dot com 22:53, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Just who do you think you are? Babysitting? Y'know, it's not like I've ever done anything mean to you. Yes, I spoke for you. Just trying to help and to see it in the eyes of an admin. Yes, I've answered your talk page questions for you with crappy answers. Again, jsut trying to help. These things don't mean you have to insult me like that. Y'know, I've really never done anything bad to you on purpose. I always had great respect for you, and I've never purposely insulted you like you just did. You need to learn how a simple misinterpretation of a comment on the main page talk should'nt be an excuse for acting like that. — Seriously (Talk) 23:09, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
When I vandalized I thought you were suppose to vandalize there. --The thing Talking is fun. 23:12, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
To Seriously: As one who has been an admin several times in other places, one thing I can say with certainty is that many admins feel very put off and are easily annoyed by non-admins (and especially relatively new people) trying to speak for them. Dictating policy to other users on behalf of the admins is usually a no-no unless you are an admin or are trusted by the admins to do so. (Obviously, I can't speak for It's dot com, but if I were in his place dealing with this crap, that's how I'd feel.) — Image:kskunk_fstandby.gif KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
And if you haven't figured it out by now who I am, Seriously, then you've got deeper problems than I can fix in one afternoon. To The thing: whatever, man. To KieferSkunk: Hear, hear. — It's dot com 23:23, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Okay. Here it goes, time for me to swallow my pride:

Look, Dot com, I just don't want to be treated like a baby. In my opinion, I think being a tattletale is the wrong was to think about it, I prefer "fighting trolls, and trying to help you with your rule". Yes, I was disrespectful to you. I just needed to prove my point and express my anger at you. Also, I know you are an admin. Maybe I was a bit overboard with you; that doesn't mean what I said was entirely wrong. I mean, I apologize, but it's not like I'll kiss your ring and beg for forgiveness. I've got to be a bit more defiant than that to ever prove my point. Just remember: I've always, always tried to help you, and I just found your comment a bit mean. Just forgive me, please, and let this whole thing disappear. Thanks a lot. — Seriously (Talk) 00:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Seriously, have you been reading this thread and understanding it? It's dot com has stated just 8 posts up: "And for goodness' sake, stop apologizing." You are still relatively new to this wiki, and your experience has been limited to editing User and User talk pages. You said yourself you give "crappy answers" to questions that don't concern you. When I first joined, I watched conversations like this unfold and saw how responsible admins reacted. I didn't try to solve everybody's problems; I knew I didn't have the knowledge. Just keep to yourself for a while and maybe see what it's like to make some main namespace contrubutions. (That is the idea of a wiki, you know.) small_logo.pngUsername-talk 00:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Can you please delete this post. The thing Talking is fun. 21:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
No way, José. This is one of my all-time favorite threads. — It's dot com 21:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I can't beleive I was writing "I'm crying harder than ever." I was actually just sitting there. lol The thing Talking is fun. 22:21, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Sure you were, rummy. — It's dot com 22:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dr. Who

HOW DOES HE KEEP COMING BACK! --The thing Talking is fun. 23:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey man, I want you to know that Dr. Who vandalized your talk page. Could you block his IP for me? --The 386 My talk 23:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
First of all, this is nothing to get excited about. He's a garden-variety vandal, nothing more, and he comes back because (a) he apparently doesn't have anything constructive to do and (b) he has access to a dynamic IP. Second, yes, I'm aware that he vandalized this page. Third, I already blocked him before you posted your message. Fourth, please list future vandals on HRWiki:WikiTroll, not this page. Thanks. — It's dot com 23:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Also, he never does much damage, besides vulgar content and stuff like that. What's weird, though, is how he always manages to come when there's no sysops around. — Seriously (Talk) 21:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
You know what I hate? When this guy writes vulgar edit summaries. For people who patrol recent changes, especially kids, we don't have to see that. Really. — Seriously (Talk) 23:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Yea. I'm 10 he on my page said This user is fulla ****. --The thing Talking is fun. 23:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Ugh. At least NSMC was was just racist. This guy swears like nobody's business. — Seriously (Talk) 23:15, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
He can go to jail for this. --The thing Talking is fun. 23:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
I doubt that severely... Though one can always wish... --Jay (Gobble) 23:21, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
To this point: would it be possible to introduce a language filter? The rare times a swear is needed (an interview transcript, for example) a sysop can override. ?? - Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 23:24, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Probably impossible. That would interfere with this wiki, though, because the cartoon says crap all the time, among other things. — Seriously (Talk) 23:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
We could allow the program to accept crap. Still, there are a lot of other issues... — Has Matt? (talk) 23:33, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
It's definitely possible, but currently it's not worth the effort it would take to install it. As for "crap", we just wouldn't put that word on the bad list. Finally, I would appreciate it if comments that aren't actually directed to me be posted in a more public place: Talk:Main Page, HRWiki talk:FAQ, or HRWiki:Da Basement, to name a few. — It's dot com 23:35, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
OK. Although I think that everyone comes to you because you are the central hub of the wiki, pretty much. Everyone comes to you in hardships, whcih if I were you, I would be honored with. — Seriously (Talk) 23:38, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I know, and don't think I'm not honored, but I, like most people, don't like new-message false alarms, and would rather talk about projects I'm currently working on. Also, there are a lot of questions that anyone could more easily answer if they were just put in a more public place. — It's dot com 00:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiTroll

OK then, I'll stop, but why don't you want me editing that page? With crap, Yeltensic (T • C) 02:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Because it's fine the way it is, and you really don't need to be editing meta-information about yourself. Besides, as you said on the talk page, that record isn't even that important anyway. — It's dot com 03:01, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Fair enough. I just wanted it to be accurate, even though it isn't necessary in the first place. With crap, Yeltensic (T • C) 03:15, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Granola

Why did you delete my old userpage? With crap, Yeltensic (T • C) 07:06, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

That is not your user page. If you continue to claim that name, I will treat you as though it was still your username (i.e. I will go back to blocking you). — It's dot com 07:07, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
OK...I just thought it would be useful to redirect it, so that people who went looking for it would come to the right place...can at least have the talkpage redirect? People have been known to still post on the old one, and I think it's useful to redirect that one, so that posts won't lie around unanswered for a long time. With crap, Yeltensic (T • C) 07:12, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Never mind about the talkpage, I logged in as Yeltensic, went into my preferences, and enabled the notification e-mail in case the old talkpage is edited, so it's covered now. With crap, Yeltensic (T • C) 08:19, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
You've said that I can't have "Yeltensic" as my sig, as I did for a while, or have "I'm Yelt" in parentheses; would it be OK if I included in my sig a link to my Wikipedia userpage, without the word "Yeltensic" visibly included, in this way: With crap, Granola (T • C)? I won't change it until you approve that suggestion (if you do). With crap, Yeltensic (T • C) 03:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I see that you have a mention of it on your user page as well as a userbox linking to Wikipedia. Those are both fine with me. (By the way, just thought I'd point out that (H*R/wiki-related) userboxes are allowed here.) But I don't think it's appropriate for your sig at this time. You need to stop focusing on your old name and work on making a new, better name for yourself here. Crapfully crappy, It's dot com 04:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
That sounds reas-ON-able. I'm pretty attached to the name Yeltensic, since I've been using it for quite some time before HRWiki, but it is my fault that the name is tainted here. Oh well. With crap, Yeltensic (T • C) 04:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cheddarlebbon

I hate to butt in with that conversation, especially because I've been under fire for that recently, but I am sure that IP address is not him. Cheddarlebbon does not type in caps, for example. He also has several spelling errors in his sentences. I'm just putting this up, because I want to make sure he does not get the password. — Seriously (Talk) 20:57, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your concern. Don't worry though: Per our policy, I will not be resetting the account without some kind of proof. — It's dot com 21:05, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
groodGood. — Seriously (Talk) 21:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My Userbox

Hey! Jerk! Why don't you stay offa my userpage and let me make my own userbox there! I didn't put it on the userbox list! It was isolated to my page! I really don't know what your deal is, but you need to get over it if it upset you that much. Maybe I should edit your page without asking you, huh? I think I can safely say that I was following the guidelines for my personal image. Now If you'll excuse me, I'm going to put it back up. No thank you very much, Republic of Stan ⬅Blah.

This discussion was originally continued at [[User talk:Republic of Stan → Userboxes]]. I had originally suspected him of being a sockpuppet of Drwho?, and that turned out to be correct.

[edit] Dr. Who Never Strikes Again

Ok. I've got to admit, somewhat grudgingly, that you caught me earlier. I AM in fact Dr. Who. But I really wasn't planning on using this account for vandalism. Yesterday after I attacked the fanstuff wiki I saw that I had hurt someone's feelings and I felt terrible when it put a personal face on what I'd done. I'm ready and willing to talk to you about why and how I did all of that trolling if you just give me this chance. Of course, I would understand if you banned me right away, but I'm asking you to give it a try. Sincerely, Taco Salad of My Dreams

I can't speak for all the other sysops, but I won't ban you if you're willing to talk civilly. The whole reason I posted on your talk page was to find out about you and talk to you. — It's dot com 02:33, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Ok then, here goes. I believe the first trolling I ever did was under the name "you smell", where I added that phrase several times to the Characters page. I decided that it was funny that someone coming to learn would see that (yes, I know, very immature and stupid of me). That was the full extent that I knew of what I was doing. I later learned of the concept of wiki vandalism from Uncyclopedia. I have been using this wiki for years without knowing exactly how maintenance worked; when I did I became jealous of the sysops. I wished to make a name for myself here without doing years of work (rather like WoW, I was trying to gain infamy). My attacks became somewhat meaner as I went on, and I attacked users when I got tired of simply tampering with content. I started thinking of ways to justify it to myself, such as that injustice was being done to me over userboxes, or that my name alone had gotten me banned. I guess I saw it as a way to "break loose" because I am normally NOT a rude or confrontational person. I just stopped for two reasons: I was ashamed of myself, and I was inspired by the way Yeltensic had turned himself around. In any case, I am deeply sorry. The least I can do is tell you how I did the vandalism so that you can better protect against anything that might happen in the future.
I used two dynamic IP's: Safari and AOL. Aol has a set of three or four dynamic IP's that change within a narrow range from page to page. Safari's IP changes once every day, but it usually retains the first two segments (75.123.12.32, 75.123.32.34.... and so on). I opened numerous windows at once and typed in my edits and (sigh) summeries. This way the vandalism was at a high speed. I hope at least me telling you this helps (or rather, that you won't need it). Taco Salad of My Dreams
I am willing to give you a chance. Several of your latest incarnations have actually showed some promise, and I hope you can build on that. Once again, I can't speak for all users and sysops, but in general we're a pretty forgiving bunch. I caution you that you will have to prove yourself (assuming others also give you a chance), and our collective patience with you might not be what it would be for a normal new user.
Thanks for the technical info (although I did already know that, by the way; that's how I was able to post on your talk page before you'd even made any real edits). — It's dot com 02:58, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dr.... Who?

Who was Dr. Who? why did he/she get kicked off so many times? I am asking this because as I travel around this Wiki I saw alot about Dr. Who. Just curious, videlectrix.pngGrit7"Meh!"

See #Dr. Who Never Strikes Again. — It's dot com 03:37, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another recent block

Looking at the Block list, I saw that you banned User:Fire Man. Are you sure you've got the right guy? Looking at his contribs he only made one edit and it wasn't anything bad. He seems like a perfectly fine user. I think he's innocent so you should unblock him. Any reason why you blocked him in the first place? NO!!! PLEASE... DON'T SHOOT!!! Tampo (T/C) AND SOMEONE GET THiS FREAKiN CURSOR AWAY FROM ME!!!!! 02:54, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

You are correct about the number and type of contribs for that account. I am unblocking it on a provisional basis. I remind whoever needs to hear it that vandalism and flagrant abuse of the wiki's policies will not be tolerated. — It's dot com 07:50, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Declaring War

Isn't there a rule against declaring war? Isn't that anti-Wiki? - Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 07:12, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't think anyone's ever enumerated a list here that specifically included "do not declare war," but I can say for sure that it's a very bad idea. — It's dot com 07:20, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Indeed. - Qermaq - (T/C) Image:Qermaqsigpic.png 07:26, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
*sigh* Yeah, that. If he keeps it confined to what he's already said, then I'm probably not going to worry about it too much (although I did have to remove some trolling (for those just passing by, note the difference between trolling and vandalism)), but if he actually moves the article against consensus or tries to escalate his "war" in any other way, there will be trains dropped. — It's dot com 07:34, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm just glad I'm on your s