User talk:It's dot com/Let's Get Started on Doing All Those Awesome Things I Suggested

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[edit] STUFF reform

[edit] The note

Here's the note you requested. HRWiki:IRC_channel? -- Tom 17:30, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I for the instructions, I have this:

{Tom's code moved here: User:It's dot com/instructions code}

You need to fix up Section II, since I have no idea what's going on there. (And quite possibily sections I and III as well.) You also might want to check out some of the bulleted points in the things to consider section for when you write up the instructions. Well, good luck. -- Tom 18:58, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] STUFF help

I would be glad to help you out Dot Com. I'm bored and I'm really digging what you are doing here. Keep up the good work. -- Tony Stony

On an aside note, when the time comes will you need help turning all of the current STUFF'd facts to your format? If so lemmie know and I can help you out. When do you think the big change might occur? -- Tony Stony

I'm shooting for the middle of this week. Maybe there won't be a new toon this week. That would help. — It's dot com 00:34, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Looks like you're about ready to make this happen. I would also be willing to help you and Tony with the big change, if you so desire. You know, taking what's currently in STUFF and putting it on the new page. There's a lot of them there. Just let me know. --Some HSR themed username 03:12, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I welcome any help I can get. I don't know the best way to go about it. I figure we'll have to temporarily close the STUFF page so that people aren't trying to edit it while we're converting it. Also, I want to open the format up for others to test. I'm trying to get that done tonight. I think the format is really easy to use, but I made it, so there could be problems I'm not seeing. I'll leave you a note on your talk page when I have more to report, which shouldn't be too long from now. — It's dot com 03:48, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

In case you didn't notice, I've discovered what is causing the problem in STUFF. Not external links in and of themselves (notice that "The Legend of Credits" has an external link.) It's the fact that there was an equal sign in one of the links. Try plugging a random equal sign into any fact (link or no) and see what happens. --Jay (Gobble) 07:59, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

If you're looking for a response as to the new STUFF's simplicity, I would say it is pretty easy if you follow the directions. I do have a suggestion, though. For the how to revise page you have the entire template out for cutting and pasting, but the initial template setup has the optional things on parts of it. It might make it easier to take the optional notes and the false user votes off of that template so it's easy to cut and paste the entire thing. That's what I think anyway. Other than that, I think the new system is great. --Some HSR themed username 19:27, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I went ahead an implemented everything, including Protecting all the templates and DELETING!! all the test pages I could think of. If there are others I missed, feel free to TBD them. I ended up erasing a lot of old Verdicted facts on the old STUFF page - dig through the history if you really feel you need them. --Jay (Gobble) 07:42, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New STUFF Verdicts

The new STUFF looks prooty good! One little quibble: it appears that the original posting dates were not included when the open STUFFs were ported. My real question is: how should a VERDICT'D STUFF look? -- tomstiff 13:12, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The date thing was my fault. Anyway, I guess that a VERDICT should be another template or two, and should be put in place of the arguments and votes. --Jay (Gobble) 17:02, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I fixed the dates. For verdicts, we can either move the items to the talk pages (like we do now), or they could be moved to a different subpage, like HRWIKI:STUFF Archive/pagename, for example. If we use an archive subpage, we should put a reference link on the talk page with the fact in question and the verdict.

As items close, they should definitely be moved somewhere. Otherwise, if down the line someone STUFFs something new from a page, all the old, closed facts will still be there. Once a template subpage is empty (all the facts have closed), the template subpage should be deleted. — It's dot com 17:13, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The rest of this discussion has moved to HRWiki_talk:STUFF#Verdicts.

[edit] <3

My ace in the hole. You rock. Good prize. —BazookaJoe 06:15, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, thank you! (But what specifically are you referring to? And what does "less than three" mean in this context?) — It's dot com 06:18, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Haha, "less than three" in this context means, "Yay! Heart!" This is just a random compliment for you. You know, because you're always cool. —BazookaJoe 06:25, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Of course! Now I see. (I'm not a big emoticon user myself, so you'll have to forgive my ignorance here.) And thanks for the encouraging words! Great jaerb on the Biz Cas Fri 1 transcript. It's always fun to help on those (especially since I rarely get the chance to do one — they're always done so quickly after a toon is released). Keep up the good troll fightin' recent patrollin' wiki gnomin' work! — It's dot com 06:38, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I already congraturated you once, but way to go, again, STUFF guru! -BazookaJoe 01:45, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

As always, you are welcome. Just curious, what made you think to say that this time? — It's dot com 01:46, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Well, I was sitting in Recent Changes... and just looking at the two jillion STUFF edits you make every two jillion seconds. That's very cool. -BazookaJoe 01:48, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Ha ha, it feels like that sometimes. The way I look at it, since I stirred up the waters by coming up with the format, I have an obligation to keep it as well-oiled as possible, and so I do a lot of maintenance on items, even if I don't actually participate in every vote. — It's dot com 01:52, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

And well-oiled it is. -BazookaJoe 01:57, 9 Jul 2005 (UTC)

[edit] STUFF query

Hey It's dot com, I just noticed that one of bottom 10's STUFF entries is not ever going to succeed due to the author's mistake. (The Knott's Berry Farm one) It is not true, and will not get a single acceptance vote. I just thought it might be best to close that one now and save everybody time. On that note, I have also noticed that you are the only one who ever closes STUFFed facts, and was wondering if you wanted a hand with that. I am willing to help you out if you want me to.
Forever Young, Username-talk 20:17, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

To tell the truth, I don't mind doing it at all; it's fun. But others are of course welcome to do it (this is a wiki, after all); and certainly you should at least know how. (It's not difficult, but it is involved. The instructions are here.) I dunno, like I've said to BazookaJoe, since I made up the format, I feel responsible for making sure all the gears mesh and turn like they're supposed to. — It's dot com 20:49, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

P.S. I took care of that item like you suggested.

[edit] Anonymous STUFFing

Okay, it's one thing to say that Anonnies can't VOTE in STUFF facts. It's another entirely to say that they can't CREATE facts; I'd taken it for granted that they could. --Jay (Gobble) 18:18, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

The rules state: "You may only edit arguments while logged in." I would think that extends to creating items. If a user cares enough about an item, he can log in to create it. If an item truly is important, a logged-in user has probably already made it anyway. As for this particular item, it was such a stretch that it would have been deleted outright from the page. If you truly feel, however, that it needs to go through the process, resubmit it anew (but I've got a thousand dollars I would bet as to how the verdict will end up). — It's dot com 18:26, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Well, I don't disagree that it was a waste of space. I was more thinking about future reference—if someone actually adds a fact worth STUFFing. I suppose the only safeguards we had specified for unlogged users were votes and editing pre-existing arguments (it doesn't specifically say that unlogged users can't add facts or arguments) so I wanted clarification. --Jay (Gobble) 18:44, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I'll admit, I threw it out on a technicality. A technicality I would probably overlook if it had any merit at all. The last couple of days it seems like people are abusing the STUFF page, STUFFing the most trivial bits of nothing. I was trying to make an example of something that clearly deserved to get the ax, to try and nip this in the bud. — It's dot com 18:52, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Fair enough. For example, I completely deleted a false "Fact" yesterday (regarding The Cheat's bendable arms never appearing before outside of Cheat Commandos, in spite of the fact that they'd been seen in caper and virus), so imagine my surprise today to find that it had been re-added (albeit prematurely Verdicted). Was it the same guy? How could multiple people make that mistake? And, as a result of your previous comments, I modified the "Add a toon/Add an item/Revise an item" instructions; now, all three say that you must be logged in. --Jay (Gobble) 18:56, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

"Early," not "premature." When several users find multiple instances that directly contradict an item, it is patently false and therefore not worth our time. — It's dot com 18:59, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Er, maybe my wording was a bit confusing, but I already knew that. I tend to refer to facts as "prematurely closed" when they're closed early no matter what the reason—even if I was the one who did it. --Jay (Gobble) 19:03, 26 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I took it in the sense of "before it should have been", but "before normal" works too. — It's dot com

[edit] STUFF instructions for newcomers

Hey there, as per our discussion last week, I plan to start working on some more detailed STUFF instructions soon to help newcomers know when to STUFF. I was wondering where these instructions should go: if they belong on the About page or if they should get their own page if if there's another place you think they belong. Thanks for your help. Heimstern Läufer 07:20, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

I would work them up on their own subpage, like "User:Heimstern Läufer/temp" or something. Then we can either copy and paste the content onto an existing page, or we can make the subpage into a page in its own right, depending on how much you come up with and whether it would and should fit on a page we already have or stand alone. — It's dot com 18:22, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Jawohl, Herr Hauptmann! Sounds good to me. I'll work on it soon. I'm hoping to keep them brief (I think it defeats the purpose if we overwhelm newbies with tons of information) but we'll see what I come up with. Heimstern Läufer 23:59, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey there, I wrote some guidelines. They're here. If you get a chance to check them out, I'd be glad to hear what you think. Especially let me know if anything about them is just not true at all. Talk atcha later. Heimstern Läufer 23:59, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I like those a lot. Now, where to put them... — It's dot com 00:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Glad you like them. They give just enough useful information without being overkill. But we do still need somewhere to put them. My thought is to add them to the About page for STUFF, alhtough I suppose they could instead get their own page with a link from the about page. Anyway, let me know what's best. Heimstern Läufer 18:13, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I added them to the About page (and gave you credit), and I tweaked the wording on the index. What do you think? — It's dot com 02:13, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Awexome. It looks great to me. Talk atcha later. Heimstern Läufer 02:31, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Admin maintenance

[edit] IP block issues

Yo, Mr. Dot Com, might I ask why you keep blocking my IP address every time, and also mark me as a "repeat offender?" I asked nicely for you and the other sysops to fix the rpoblem of this, because it's getting extremely frustrating for me when I want to edit something and I can't because somebody with a similar IP addy is trolling the site. This is now the fifth time that something like this has happened, and the second consecutive time that it's been you who has blocked me. I know you're just trying to do your job, but it isn't fair to people who follow all the wiki rules to be blocked just because of idiotic trolls who like to delete pages and add cuss words to them. --ISlayedTheKerrek 01:57, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

I apologize for any inconvenience, ISlayedTheKerrek. I will be happy to investigate your situation further, but I need some more information. What was the IP address that was blocked? When did you notice the problem? How do you connect to the Internet? I have reviewed the block log, and any blocks I have imposed for any real length are for what I consider serious infractions. There have been only three occasions when I have used the comment "repeat offender," only one of which was recent. In addition, the IPs fitting this description have had zero legitimate edits. Unfortunately, since this seems to be a recurring problem, it may not have a simple solution. There are some real jerks out there whose mission in life seems to be to spoil the fun for everybody else. We appreciate your patience and understanding as we try to sort this out. — It's dot com 04:23, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

My IP address, although I don't know EXACTLY which one it is offhand, is in the 205 range. Note this as well...I am not editing from my computer at this exact moment, as you again have blocked me because of the reason I stated before. I hope you can find a way to fix it soon, because this is now time number 5. --ISlayedTheKerrek 18:28, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

KerekSlayerDude: You can check your IP by going to IP Chicken. Let us know the exact IP that is blocked and we'll see if we can get the block removed. Thanks. — Joey (talk·edits) 18:54, 5 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Well, my current IP address according to IP Chicken is 152.163.101.7, which has changed in the last couple of days from the 205.whatever it was before. Right now, I'm able to edit from my computer, so all is good for now. --ISlayedTheKerrek 14:51, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, Kerrek. If you have this problem in the future please let us know. Again, we're sorry about the inconvenience. We appreciate having you around and hate to see good productive members getting blocked an behalf of nasty trollers. — Joey (talk·edits) 16:18, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Actually, he slayed the Kerrek. ;) — It's dot com

ISlayedTheKerrek, if you ever find yourself blocked from editing again, please simply email a sysop or the Admins a short note explaining the situation. Make sure you include the IP address that appears on the blocked notice. It is easy for a sysop to unblock you, you just need to supply us with the proper information and remain calm. Thanks. -- Tom 16:34, 6 Oct 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Block and unblock

Dot com, you blocked me then unblocked me.-24.24.226.13

Yes. You keep messing with HRWiki:WikiTroll, and it's hard to tell whether you're doing so maliciously. I suggest not doing that. The time that I blocked you, I thought you were blanking the page; then I realized those had recently been moved to an archive. — It's dot com 23:10, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Does the box have a troll in it? Or maybe a troll?

Are you sure about 24.151.40.232? Most of his/her edits seem inept, but not malicious. —AbdiViklas 04:45, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Oops. I was blocking every IP in sight. I'll fix it. Thanks. — It's dot com 04:47, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Please add to trusted group

Hey Dot com, put me in the trusted group on the Fanstuff wiki. I'd like to start reverting some vandalised pages. Thanks. — Kilroy / talk 00:20, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Done'd. — It's dot com

He can you uhm, make me trusted? Bassium! m OCE

Done. — It's dot com

Can I please be trusted too? Sorry to bother you. - _talk Sahm ^ribs 05:23, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Oh and me? PLEASE? I beg of thee to give thy trusted status. – Pertmywert (Talk·Edits) 06:58, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Done. Although, I'm about to lift the general block anyway. Oh, and keep your pants on. For real. — It's dot com

[edit] About the trusted group

Exactly what things can a user in the trusted group do over a regular user? -- Super Sam 23:12, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Currently nothing. There is no longer any such thing as the trusted group. We created it specifically to allow access until such time as all the malicious usernames could be blocked. Once they were all blocked, regular access was restored and the trusted group was dissolved. If you look in the list of users, the "trusted" label still appears next to various users because of the way the software stores it, but at present there is no mechanism for me to either remove the label from those who already have it or to add it to those who don't. If we ever need to re-enable the group, only then will any of this be imprortant again. — It's dot com 23:30, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Can I figure out if I was in the "trusted group"? (I'm probably hoping a little too much here. :P) - Kookykman(t)(c)(r)

[edit] User accounts

Can sysops create new accounts during the block? My brother, Ty, wanted one. - Kookykman(t)(c)(r)

Yes, I can, but I'll need some information from you. Meet me or one of the other sysops in the IRC channel. If I don't respond right away, try sending me a PM. — It's dot com 03:08, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

I sent you a forum PM. - Kookykman(t)(c)(r)

Okay, he's all set: User:Ekho. He should change his password and fill in an email address. — It's dot com 18:07, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New Fanstuff User

This user joined the Fanstuff Wiki Forum and requests an account on the locked down Fanstuff Wiki. Do you think you could set him/her up? He/she wants the username GretaWinner1234. Thanks. - Joshua 03:05, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

You can do it. Just go to "Special:Userlogin" while already logged-in as a sysop, and it will give you an extra password field and a button to create a new user. You need to let GretaWinner1234 know via a PM (or some other non-public means) the temporary password that you set, and you should suggest that the password be changed as soon after his or her first login as possible. — It's dot com 03:20, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm curious, how come the Homestar Runner Fanstuff Wiki Runner Forum Forum is hosted outside the hrwiki domain and not like, under fanforum.hrwiki.org? --Stux 03:37, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

See this discussion. — It's dot com 03:51, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

That doesn't explain why it isn't official. I'm curious too. - Joshua 04:13, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Maybe not, but it's all the info I have. — It's dot com

My guess is, it wouldn't be official unless Joey and Tom had full control of it. I wonder who manages it now. --Stux 06:45, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Done with giving him/her an account. Thanks, It's dot com. - Joshua 04:12, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

No probalo. — It's dot com

[edit] Fanstuff E-mail

The fanstuff doesn't have e-mail features re-enabled - could you please re-enable them? - Super Sam 15:32, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Done. -- Tom 06:45, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Finding vandalism

Hey, just wanted to flag a sysop. other days was mildly vandalized. I fixed it but figured you might want to know about it. Feel free to delete this from your talk if you want. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  22:22, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Simple nuisance vandalism can just be fixed and then ignored. The best way to let us know about more serious vandalism is to post it on HRWiki:WikiTroll. Then we'll get it taken care of. Thanks for reverting that page. — It's dot com 22:41, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IP Checking

There's been a fair amount of debate about accounts that seem to be all created by H*bad. Since we lack any ability to check for IP addresses, would you be able to see if the following accounts share the same IP?: H*bad, H*bad1, Darth Homestar Runner, Darth Homestar runner, Guyforerunner, Godzillarunner, Homestarrunner101, Running along. Any info you could get would be much combobulated. - Super Sam 01:04, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

They're the same (except I'm not sure about Guyforerunner). See also this discussion. — It's dot com 01:41, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

What in the world. My friend created H*bad1 at my house. Thats why he has the same IP address as mine, I believe. He called me up and told me that you guys are like people who want to put salt in an open wound. Why you do this to him? I will keep on fighting this little thing about H*bad1. I explained all of this cwap at My dark side--H*bad 05:52, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Um... yeah. Okay. First of all, don't let people make accounts using your computer, and if you do, have them choose a different name from you. (That still doesn't explain all the other names, by the way.) But I don't really want to get into it here, as it has been discussed on other pages, like you point out. Super Sam simply asked me whether the IPs matched and I answered him. — It's dot com 06:02, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fanstuff Extensions

Can you please put the autocolumn and random Homsar quote extensions onto the Fanstuff? - Super Sam 12:41, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Done. — It's dot com 04:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stinkopuppet

Super Sam was going to ask you this, but he says he did not have enough time. There is a user by the name of Stinkobad1 on the Fansguff Wiki. He requests an IP address check to make sure there is not another feud, and another reason to hate H*Bad. ;) Thanks. — Seriously ^(Talk) 02:51, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Um, please? I know you're on, and it's urgent...:( — Seriously ^(Talk) 23:46, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I think I'd like Super Sam to ask his own questions. If he doesn't have the time, then it must not be that urgent. — It's dot com 02:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Hooray! It's me! Anyway, could you please crosscheck the IP addresses of Stinkobad1, H*bad, and while you're at it, The thing? Many thanks. - Super Sam 03:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

None of those users coincide. — It's dot com 04:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 65.167.69.XX

Hey, I did a little investigation. This IP range is notorious. I found blocks on it back to November, and comments that it is probably WoW. I know we gotta be reluctant to block a range, but I wanted to call your attention to this particular case. Take a look at the Block Log for the last 6 months to see what I am saying. - Qermaq - (^T/C)  13:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Very belated follow-up: I took care of this later that day. — It's dot com 03:21, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Paranormal Idol

Could you check the IPs of Paranormal Idol and HomeTron V20 on the fanstuff wiki? I think they might be the same person. - Bub^Talk

Sorry, but a request for that info would have to come from a fanstuff sysop. — It's dot com 01:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, could you please check the IPs of the following Fanstuff users: HomeTron V20, Paranormal Idol, Paranormal Idol2, Paranormal Idol3 and Ytmnd Boy. Here's the reason. (edited version of reasons written by Bub on HRFWiki:User talk:Joshua.)

HomeTron V20 was a player on an interactive game which Bub created. HomeTron apparently quit the wiki because his Fake Characters were getting deleted by Joshua (as per a different discussion). A couple of days later, a new user, Paranormal Idol joined the wiki. He then created two new accounts, Paranormal Idol2 and Paranormal Idol3, claiming that he lost the password to his original account. Paranormal Idol3 then joined the same interactive game. After playing it for a while and then dying (in the game), he left the wiki. A few minutes after this, Ytmnd Boy signed up and requested to be in Bub's interactive game using the same character as HomeTron V20. All of these users share the same style of grammar, spelling and the way they transcribe.

In my opinion, this seems like valid grounds for an IP check. - Super Sam 06:43, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Based on the IPs, they are the same user. — It's dot com 07:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. - Super Sam 07:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

A few minutes ago, I got the new messages flag, and an e-mail saying that my talk page had been created by you. Do you know why this has occurred? - Super Sam 07:24, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes. I edited and saved your page without making any changes in order to force the system to send you that message but without creating a new version of your page. I hoped you would then guess that I had replied to you here, which you did, so it worked. :) — It's dot com 07:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Permanent Edit Removal

I remember how the last time the Fanstuff got attacked by a troll who placed highly unappropriate images on pages, you permanently deleted those versions of the pages from the database. You may want to do that again with edits by the troll NKSCF. Most of the pages he put images on were deleted (not sure if you still want to delete them from the database), but there's one on Y2K's userpage that still remains. - Super Sam 08:52, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

You could just delete the page, and then restore all the edits except that one... it would still be in Special:Undelete, but you don't need admin powers to do it. --phlip ^T_C 08:59, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HRWiki Forum

I've tried to register on the forum two times, under NachoMan and NachoZ, and I never get the account activation email. Is it because I'm using an AOL email address or something else? -- NachoMan 19:59, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what the problem was, but I activated the NachoMan account. Cheers! — It's dot com 20:28, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch! -- Nacho^Talk 20:42, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Turkish subtitles

Hello, do you remember me? Or an IP starts with 85? Don't remember? Then, look at subtitles requests and choose Turkish(TR) from the navigation menu? Yeah, I did what you say, and it passed some time, but I was looking continually the page whether a reply comes before you reply. And, that's your answer: I'm Turkish, and so, I can read and write Turkish subtitles. I know English, of course, but not all Turks. (Or some of them are know at least). Anyway, I want Turkish subtitles add to the list, and my goal is that HR cartoons have loved by Turkish kids, adults, and everyone. Is this wrong? Say if it is. Anymore, I already tested a SB Email cartoon. Look if you want. Here comes. OK, I think it (my reply) is long enough. I talked you and if you want, you talk atcha later, too. Thanx. Homesturk 16:57, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Of course I remember you. Glad to see you created an account. — It's dot com 17:05, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

This message copied to and further reply at HRWiki talk:Subtitles#Turkish (TR)

OK, thanks, Dot Com! I'm subtitling the toons (only toon now) from now on. Even I wish to present my first subtitled cartoon to you. P.S:I'm working yet. Click me! That cartoon also can accessible from the my message, above. Homes Turk 13:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome! — It's dot com 16:12, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiTroll

Hey, It's dot com. Just letting you know that you don't have to add to WikiTroll if the user has already been blocked. Homestar Coder 19:27, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Well, I started adding him, and then I got called away from my computer, and by the time I got back you had already blocked him. I did notice this, but since it's such a hassle to add somebody to the table (what with making a list of all their evil edits and whatnot) and since I had already gone to the trouble, I just hit "Save page" anyway. Plus, I figured if he did it again, there would already be a record there. (And yes, I know there's the blocked log.) So that's why. — It's dot com 19:45, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Sorry to bug you then. :) Homestar Coder 19:50, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

No probalo. Besides, I like getting comments. — It's dot com 19:56, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Okay! Bother bother bother bother bother bother bother! [1] Homestar Coder 20:25, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Whoa, weeeeird. Funny, though. I especially liked the part where they busted out their M-16s to dispatch You-Know-Who. At Barnes & Noble, you can reserve a place in line, which I did, and I'm in the first group, so I will be one of the first thirty to get a book tonight at midnight. My contribs may be way down for a couple of days. — It's dot com 21:17, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I'm getting mine tomorrow, via Amazon. And yes, I know weird links. Far too many weird links... ;) Homestar Coder 21:22, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I'll miss you two while you are lost in that other realm of fantasy. Have fun reading, BazookaJoe

Hold down the fort for us, BazookaJoe. Actually, I know you will... You're, like, always here. You're doing an awesome job, man. (But seriously, don't forget to see what the sun looks like every now and then. ;) ) — It's dot com

I have been very bored this summer, and have had nothing to do but wiki. I'll be on a lot less once I start my job in a week or two. The Potter Puppet Pals are funny! —BazookaJoe 21:49, 15 Jul 2005 (UTC)

shiny things!

Um hi, It's dot com, I would like to point you to the Store page where if you check out the history you will see that the user Hydro has been trolling the page constantly. I have not yet seen his name on the Troll Page. Also, I like linking, and shiny things! --Stux 14:08, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Hi Stux. If someone ever needs to be added to the troll list, then by all means do it. Don't even worry if you mess up the format... if you should encounter problems somebody will be along to fix it. I'll take a look at Hydro now. Thanks for bringing it to someone's (in this case, my) attention. — It's dot com 14:12, 28 Sep 2005 (UTC)

My apologies for bugging you again. I think i'm trying to upgrade my status from being Mr. Fix minor things to being Mr. Pain-in-the-behind Wannabe. What am I talking about? Basically, fact checking. To what extent should we do fact checking. I was checking Matt Chapman's page history and noticed that the last change added the misc fact: "*Can be seen as an audience member in one episode of Whose Line Is It Anyway?" This is very general and my fingers are itching to revert it and leave a 'please provide evidence' note. But I haven't. Perhaps out of pity. Suggestions? (Do you have a fact-checking or fact adding set of guidelines even for admins?) --Stux 01:31, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Well, I hate to interrupt somebody else's conversation, but I checked this myself. If you look at Matt's IMBD page, it lists him as an uncredited audience member near the bottom. --DorianGray

I don't know about It's dot com cuz it's his message bored but I personally appreciate the interruption. Not to mention quick response! Wow, amazing, I didn't think they'd credit such minor things, but they did! Thanks DorianGray! (and thank you It's dot com for letting me use your Talk page!) --Stux 01:43, 1 Oct 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The single deuce...not really

About Autobiography and the whole single deuce thing, you were right. I froze the frame and the way SB's holding his hand corresponds to his chin. Good call! —Smileyface11945

Thanks. Yeah, I guess Strong Bad's way more fond of double deuce action. — It's dot com 21:45, 23 Jul 2005 (UTC)

[edit] DVDs

[edit] strongbad_email.exe vol. 4

Hey, how's your stuff for the DVD coming? Are you still working on Puppets on the Road? Oh, and are you doing Sample of Style Too? Because if not, I think I am going to take a stab at rewriting its transcript today. —BazookaJoe 13:35, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I see that the Sample of Style Too main part and outtakes are both just about done. I didn't read the transcript closely... you say you're going to rewrite it? I was working on Puppets on the Road, but I was wiped out last night and didn't finish it. I'd still like to complete POTR, but if somebody beats me to it, I won't be upset. — It's dot com 14:38, 2 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I wrote Sample of Style Too's transcript using snippets of NYU Talk's transcript. There were many differences between the two videos (see Talk:Sample of Style Too). I would love it if you could get Puppets on the Road up. It's funny and popular with fans and I'm sure they would love to read it. I don't mean to rush you, though. —BazookaJoe 04:30, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Nah, I just kinda got slammed with going out of town and then I actually had to go in to my job and do real work. Sometimes, I can goof off here, but not today. And tonight, I was in a softball game. And we won the game. And so we went and got real fruit smoothies. (Really.) I figured at some point someone would just go ahead and take POTR from me if I didn't get a chance to finish it. I'm not even at my home computer (where my DVD is and where I've done all the DVD stuff), or I'd do it now. So to sum up, if somebody else does it instead because I dragged my feet, that's cool; but otherwise, I can do it by later tomorrow. If you should do it, just drop me a note here so I won't worry. — It's dot com 04:45, 3 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I did finally have a chance to do this, in case anybody wondered how that story ended. — It's dot com

[edit] Everything Else vol. 1

Do you already have it? I usually get H*R merchandise quickly - in fact, FedEx's website predicts its delivery today. However, the local FedEx guy himself is horribly slow and I don't have it yet. >_> --Jay (Gobble) 19:34, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Oh yeah, man. I've got it. In fact, Homestar keeps telling me "Ooh, check me out; I'm quite a masterpiece. Now get back over there and choose a choice!" — It's dot com 19:37, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Sigh. After being the first one here to get Disc 4, looks like I got pre-empted on this one. --Jay (Gobble) 19:38, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

So, alas, I probably won't have it until Christmas, since my mom will want to get it for me then. Oh, the sacrifices I make for my mother... Oh, wait, I shouldn't even be talking about sacrifice on my part in the same sentence as I talk about my mother! Heimstern Läufer 03:17, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Speculation or no

What was this for? It's not merely speculation; it's a likely reference. --195.92.67.69 16:52, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Really? When an item is phrased using words like "could be" and "whether she actually did is debatable," it sure sounds like speculation to me. And you're not considering the fact that Marzipan breaks up with Homestar 50% of the time on her character video. — It's dot com 16:59, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Gah. I hate this wiki. Well, maybe not wiki, more like you and BazookaJoe seemingly cutting every edit I make. In fact, I'm going to stop editing this thing and just watch the cartoons in peace. --195.92.67.69 17:02, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel that way. If you truly believe I or we are acting unilaterally, I will cheerfully STUFF the item(s) in question for you. — It's dot com 17:13, 9 Aug 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Process

Hey, Dot com, it's The Smoking Monkey. As you seem both knowledgeable and up front about how things get done, I thought I'd come to you. Recently, I've been doing the whole recent change patrolling bit, and have come up with the following questions:

• Do all edits done by anonymous users need to be reverted? I've encountered a few that are correct or beneficial.
• Conversely, if a registered user makes a questionable edit (say, for example, adding a goof or remark that is open to debate), what would I do? I've reverted a couple, and I need to make sure this is within the rules.

Thanks for any input you might have.

Well, Smoking Monkey, anonymous users are more than welcome to contribute. I daresay everyone (with the exception of the handful of people who actually set up the wiki) started out as an anonymous user. They often have insight or experience that are invaluable to getting to the bottom of an article. The reason we keep such a close eye on people who aren't members is that it just happens that most of the edits that are redundant, obvious, or otherwise non-beneficial come from anonymous users. The vast majority of trolls are anonymous as well. So, to make a long story short, do not automatically revert anonymous edits. (Note: if we wanted, we could prevent anonymous editing with a simple setting; obviously, we have not chosen to do this.)

If a logged in user makes a bad edit, it can be reverted just like an anonymous edit. Logged-in users get a little special treatment, however. First of all, it's polite to list a reason in the edit summary instead of simply rolling back the page. Second, if an edit is borderline, strongly consider starting a discussion on the relevant talk page instead of simply removing another user's work.

I hope this helps. Don't hesitate to ask if you have further questions. — It's dot com 17:02, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Understood. I don't want to be overzealous in reverting things - the last thing I want to do is step on toes and hurt feelings. But my "common sense" might not be so "common" to everyone. Trying to be careful as I go. -TSM

I just happened upon this discussion and figured I drop a word or two. My general rule of thumb is this: revert bad edits, keep good ones. Rewrite bad wording (there's *A LOT* of it). Have fun, be polite, but be bold! It's pretty simple, really! -- tomstiff 17:06, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the input! -- THE SMOKING MONKEY 17:13, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

That's an excellent way to put it, Tom (I've always assumed your name is Tom... your user page has never said anything other than "Hello world!"). I'll probably steal your rule of thumb and not give you credit, just so you know. ;) To it I would add one thing: if you ever have legitimate doubt about whether an anonymous edit is good or bad, take the action that leads to more content. That is, if someone adds something but you're not sure, then just leave it. But if an anonny deletes something (especially something big) that you think has merit, put it back.

There's always more than one logged-in user looking at these pages, so it all usually gets straightened out in the end. — It's dot com 17:19, 25 Aug 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New Template

Thanks Dot Com, that color looks good. I'm just wondering about the centering. On the Email template (the one I modeled this one after), it's much larger, and fills the whole screen from side to side. This one doesn't, so on larger displays, such as mine, it's shifted to the left. Any idea how to center it? (And for the sizing, it's small on the Strong Bad Emails to save space. I don't think it'd be too bad to have medium font on this template, for easier reading and clicking). ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 04:53, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)
EDIT: I think the centering thing could be something to do with 'width="100%"' ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 04:55, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Er, I guess you haven't looked at the template again yet, because I already fixed the centering. All the other nav templates (SB email, answering machines, CD, DVD, etc.) use <small>, so I figured this one should, too. — It's dot com 05:04, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Hmmm... For some reason it still seems askew on my browser. Oh well, I don't care much. Like so many things on a wiki, I'm sure it'll somehow get fixed later, by someone else. And sorry about the sizing thing, I guess I'm wrong on that. In any case, I'm going to bed. Here's hoping the trolls do too. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 05:08, 31 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Amen to that. — It's dot com

[edit] Character screenames

Um, Mr. Dot com, sir.... I was just wondering if it was article-worthy to write about the AIM screenames of all the characters. Just a thought.... -- Alcnolien

Let's have a brainstorm. What are all the screen names used by the characters? Just curious. —BazookaJoe 01:26, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I know of hooray4dolphins for Marzipan (although it's debateable that Strong Bad was telling the truth), cheatachu72 for The Cheat, and depressio111117 for Strong Sad. There's also gr8lookinggrrl from i she be. Although, in my opinion, these aren't really worthy of an article. -- mibluvr13^dígame 01:30, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps it could be noted in a specific spot on the character pages of those that are known, since we don't know them all. By the way, you don't have to call me sir. "Mr. Dot com" is fine. ;) — It's dot com 02:29, 5 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, Mr. Dot com. I just felt it was noteworthy somewhere. --Alcnolien

I was kidding about the mister part, too. You can call me Dot com if you want. — It's dot com

[edit] Free Country USA

It's dot com, it's your friendly neighborhood Smoking Monkey again. I just wanted to comment on the Free Country, USA thing earlier today, because I've made you my unofficial HRWiki mentor and seek your advice from time to time on Wiki matters.

In any case, what caught my attention was an anonymous user dumped, say, 50% more info on the Free Country article. I've noticed over the weeks that 90% of anonymous edits tend to be speculation, stating the obvious, or just plain wrong. Let's say the other 9% are helpful typo, spelling and grammar corrections. It's that 1% that leads to doubt. This guy/gal radically expanded a decent article, but I couldn't tel whether the expansion was worthy or not. I know I was previously advised to err on the side of expanded content, but I've seen even registered users get slammed for adding little bits of info to articles. This guy/gal added a lot, and when I first saw it, I balked. It seemed like speculation, so I reverted.

Then Mr. Bojangles re-reverted. I looked at it a second time - this time I saw disconnected thoughts that added only confusion - so I reverted again.

Then you reverted my change, and I looked at it a third time. This time, I saw neither speculation nor confused thinking - only prose that needed refining.

I admit I've been in a bad mood recently, and have been, er, draconian in my enforcement of what I perceive is appropriate for the Wiki. I admit I was wrong reverting this article across the board.

Hopefully I made it up by actually adding to and trying to improve on the additions of the anonymous (and British) user - I got a little too caught up in making sure others play by the rules...

Faithfully patrolling the Wiki, THE SMOKING MONKEY 00:26, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Your characterization of anonymous edits is probably dead-on accurate (except when pages are first being created, which isn't that often, relatively speaking). If someone has something important to add, they usually take the step of registering first. Most of my edits were relatively minor until I registered. In fact, it was when I was trying to add something more substantial that I was encouraged to join.

I appreciate that you consider me something of a mentor, and I take seriously my responsibility to you and others I help. I carefully consider any advice I give, and it is always my hope that each user's experience here is improved by my input. This can't always be the case when someone disagrees with me, but in cases like that I try to be as diplomatic as possible. As far as anonymous users go, I try to incorporate any part of their contributions that I can—anything—so that they will feel important and be comfortable enough to finally become full contributing members.

In this specific case, you may notice that I didn't do a straight revert, but rather cleaned it up a bit before adding it back.

If there's anything else I can help you with, you know I will. Besides, we 28-year-olds have to stick together. — It's dot com 01:42, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)

I see you're taking your critical, incisive eye to my runway pet project (Free Country, USA)- and it's about time. Of all the times I've proof-read, and internally debated the structure and the "facts" of the article, I knew that others would need to parse and improve on my own thoughts. And, speaking of my own thoughts, all I have to thank for my (irrational?) devotion to this article is some anonymous British kid I tried to censor.

In any case, I think most of it holds up well.

I really need to sleep,

THE SMOKING MONKEY 02:49, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Sleep well, Dave. Irrational devotion to articles, by the way, can strangely be a good thing, and is therefore completely welcome around here. — It's dot com 03:19, 8 Sep 2005 (UTC)

(For more on specific parts of the above article, see Talk:Free Country, USA.)

[edit] WOW

Hey, Ben. I know you probably noticed, but we had a WOW-style vandal before (Homestar walker). But he...apologized? He seems a tad confused. — THE SMOKING MONKEY 18:01, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Hey, Dave. I did notice. In fact, I deleted all the bogus redirects I could find. I think I got them all. As for blocking him, I wasn't sure whether to do it. If blocking would lead to more vandalism but not blocking wouldn't, then I'm willing to leave well enough alone. I was actually seeking advice from Joey and/or Tom, but neither of them seems to be online right at the moment. Obviously, if Willy or whoever this gets so much as a toe out of line again, he'll get the indefinite block. What do you think? I haven't been able to get in touch with any of the other sysops, either, so he could yet be blocked by one of them and this discussion would be moot. — It's dot com 18:12, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

'Tis rather curious. I can't help but feel we're being blackmailed by the devil. ⇔Thunderbird⇔ 21:15, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Hmmm...since it was my first WOW-battling incident, I was bit hot afterwards, especially when he came out and said "sorry" and then "if you try to block me, I'll just do it again." It all seemed typically sophmoric to me - clearly he was having fun moving the same four pages over and over and over again, but then he lost interest and indicated he wanted to contribute. Essentially, he was malicious, but only so long as it saved him from being bored.

Your point is well-taken, though: if we can't actually block him because of the AOL loop-hole, then I guess it shouldn't be a problem if he continues behaving like a normal user. I'm not big on holding grudges, and if Venusy and bkmlb (the other two users caught up in the battle against him) don't have a problem with him staying on, then I don't have a problem.

That is, until he gets bored again! THE SMOKING MONKEY 10:56, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC) (Incidentally, the idea of a smoking monkey on wheels is pretty funny in and of itself)

As long as he doesn't do it again, I don't have a problem. And you're right, the concept of a smoking monkey on wheels is pretty funny. --ENUSY , 12:12, 24 September 2005 (BST)

EDIT: I shouldn't have used MS Paint to do this in 5 minutes.

Dude, that's hilarious! I wonder what kind of mileage he gets? THE SMOKING MONKEY11:35, 24 Sep 2005 (UTC)

[edit] How to become a sysop

I was wondering, how do you become a sysops? -lil stiny

I have actually written on this subject on several other pages. Below is a copy of this discussion. — It's dot com 18:19, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Hey AtHC, How do people become Administrators? I've been thinking about that... -Kinsey

I don't want to presume to speak for Aurora, but I've written at length about this very subject on this page, if that helps. — It's dot com 19:42, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Here is the relevant text from that page:

Becoming an admin, as they're also called, is a good goal to have, but it doesn't happen overnight. Basically, you start out at the bottom of the totem pole, and work your way up. Over time, people will begin to notice your edits; you'll want to make good ones. If you do, gradually a sense of trust will develop between you and the wiki community. In the meantime, fight trolls, add good fun facts, monitor pages for bad edits, help out with the maintenance of the site, learn the ins and outs of the software. Undertake a worthwhile project (but ... it's best to get approval before doing so). Then, sometime in the future, the current admins will open the floor for nominations for new sysops, at which time another user can throw your name in the ring. Then, we'll all vote on you. They probably won't nominate new admins for a while, and when they do, maybe you'll be nominated, maybe not. Either way, keep on keepin' on making good edits and building up that trust. It's just that simple!

I'm glad you posted that, It's dot com, because it's a good explanation! Definately monitor for edits, learn to recognize good and poor edits, and always be diplomatic in discussions. Undertaking worthwhile projects (with wiki-approval first) is a great way to contribute and be noticed. To all of this, I would add that you should think about why you want to become an administrator. If you want to be an administrator to have more power, that's the wrong reason. It's about responsibility, not power, and it sometimes involves doing unpleasant things. Homestar Coder 19:46, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

teehee, the entire time I was reading this I'm picturing It's dot com sitting at his compy/lappy dictating this message in the best strong bad impression he can make. The question was very similar to several of the sbemails and the answer was just as good except it didn't make fun of lil stiny (I'm not saying he should have, but that was the only difference) NFITC1

No, I wouldn't make fun here. I just have already thought long about this question and felt that the previous discussion (especially including the reply by Homestar Coder) covered the subject well. Thus, it was practical to copy and paste. :) — It's dot com 18:34, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Senor Cardgage Mortgage

I checked those two Fast Forwards for you. They were indeed factual. However, they still don't qualify as Fun Facts in my book. The "Fun" part is seriously lacking on those two, in my opinion. ACupOfCoffee 21:18, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Right. It wasn't that I thought that they were untrue, just that they didn't really qualify as references. Thanks for checking on that. — It's dot com 21:20, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pasta Salad a go-go

Hey, Ben. Thanks for, um, clarifying the tone of my voice for the whole Pasta Salad talk Page boondoggle. It's easy for me to forget no one around here (short of you) really has any idea who I am. Life's kinda throwing me a curveball right now, and as an artist, I tend to get irrational about my work (even if it's three sentences about Gron Mad eating elbow macaroni). I wasn't trying to be a jerk. Anyway, thanks as always for the classic Dot com level-headedness. — THE SMOKING MONKEY 22:28, 25 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Well, Dave, I just knew you wouldn't make an article—on whatever subject—without a positive reason, and certainly not to make a point. As far as I can tell, that's not your style. And I felt I needed to step up and say so, so I did. — It's dot com 22:36, 25 Se