HRWiki:Select The Usable Fun Facts Archive
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The following fun facts have gone through the STUFF process.
Some items have been removed altogether and may be found here.
This is an archive of the discussion of said fun facts. This is primarily for reference (i.e., in the case of when an item on a page is STUFF'd after already being decided on in this forum) - no new votes will be considered for these items.
[edit] Homestar Presents: Presents
[edit] Marzipan a Vegetarian?(declined)
Marzipan saying she would cook Homestar's goose isnt reasonable, since Marzipan is a vegetarian.
- decline- We all know marzipan is a vegetarian, and cook someones goose isnt about food, why is this even here? (sorry for not signing, my first time,dimoko 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
- Second. (But sign your vote!) -- Mithent 19:11, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
- I gotta Second this. Sorry. dark_predator! okay, fine... thatkidsam
- Second. --MadEwokHerd 10:27, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --Chrysaor
- Second. Vegetarians say phrases like this all the time, it doesn't make them unreasonable. --Rebochan 00:35, 23 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
- Decline. It is a saying that has nothing to do with literally cooking goose. -Clever Ben
- Second. - «Rob»
- Second. --Tiggera 21:47, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Second. It's just a saying, and besides, vegetarians such as I have no problem saying sayings about meat --Homeschool Winner
[edit] Aught Four Crap(declined)
Bubs's "aught four crap" is a reference to old comics, where Strong Bad inexplicably pronounces '04 as "aught-four", at the very end of the email. Hence, Bubs's aught-four crap is most likely all the stuff he never sold in the entirety of 2004.
- decline This should be nixed, "aught four" just means 04, it isnt a reference to "old comics" it is just an old timey way to say "oh-four" this isnt a reference to something strong bad says, this is just a phrase that two different chracters said. dimoko 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
- second Apologies, I had never heard "aught-four" before in my life (or aught-anything, for that matter) and thought it had been invented by Strong Bad on the spur of the moment. Go ahead and delete it if it's not considered a reference to the e-mail. --Sokko
- Accept. Although it is an accepted term, it's very rarely used (and isn't technically correct). --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
- Revise - I've never heard "aught four" before, and if Strong Bad says it somewhere else then it is, as far as I'm concerned, a good enough reason to include. tompagenet 14:17, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
- In English, "aught" means zero. --24.21.86.243 23:45, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
- decline It's just another way of saying '04; it didn't originate on this site nor is it a specific reference to anything else. If he'd said "oh-four," this wouldn't even be an issue. --FortyTwo 14:42, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
- But he didn't say "oh four", he said "aught four", which is actually pretty archaic and extremely uncommon. It's no coincidence that it was also said by Strong Bad in old comics. --Upsilon
- Decline - I though Aught Four was Naught Four without the N. «Rob»
- Second. I've heard people say that all the time!
- Info: 'Aught is an old way of saying naught, an old term that means zero or nothing. It is still used in physics and chemistry when a variable has a zero as a subscript. -- The Real Zajac 16:04, 4 Jan 2005 (PST)
[edit] "Oh cwap" vs "I say.."(declined)
Homestar saying, "Oh cwap!" excitedly and then less and less excitedly is similar to The King of Town DVD, when he questions The King of Town's workers "I say.."
- Uber-decline That is the one of the biggest stretches ever. super orange! the lone/first voter!
- Uber-Second even if you thought that was so, Homestar says "I say" three times in the KoT dvd, and Homestar says "Oh cwap!" four times
- D'oh! Well the connection positively jumped out at me and smacked me in the face--I think of it every time I see it. socetew
- Second. - «Rob»
[edit] Broken phone(declined)
Coach Z talking into a broken phone is a reference to the somewhat different kind of Flash cartoon, Salad Fingers Since Salad Fingers also has a fetish for rusty metal, this might be intentional.
- Decline. I don't know. Cartoon characters talk on broken/toy phones all the time. --Chrysaor
- Decline. Mm, I don't think it's likely to be a reference.. and Coach Z has a fetish for rusty metal? Homestar just thinks he might give him a rusty knife. -- Mithent 08:26, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Rewrite. I think there is a connection to Salad Fingers in this cartoon, with the whole rusty knife and Coach Z. Coach Z is green, like Salad Fingers; and the idea of giving him a rusty knife also connects the two. --BegyLips
- Decline. It's more than likely a reference to replacement rather than salad fingers. -- super orange!
- i agree about it being a refrens to replasment and have never herd of "saled fingers"
- But then why make a point of it being a RUSTY knife? --Begylips
- Decline. Considering that the Coach Z scene consists of him talking on a broken phone, eating a T.V dinner, and having his power go out due to him not paying the bill, I think its quite clear that the joke is about Coach Z being used to having busted crap. Salad Fingers didn't invent the idea of rusted metal.
- Second. - «Rob»
[edit] Has what it takes(declined)
Homestar saying "Looks like the ol' captain of the team still has what it takes." may be a reference to the fact that Strong Bad has been getting all the attention and becoming the main star of the site.
- Decline. Speculative, doesn't belong in fun facts. --Chrysaor
- Second. --Lyzz
- Second. Seems like I've heard a reference to him as "captain of the team" or something similar before.. --MadEwokHerd 10:30, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second-Clever Ben
- Second. - «Rob»
- Decline Looks like Homestar remembering the characters high school days to me. --super orange!
- Decline This just sounds like the way he talks. That line could just as easily refer to his attempts to recruit members into the Homestarmy "Do you has what it takes...?" and so on.--clhinton
i agree about homestarmy
[edit] Garfield X-mas(declined)
Strong Bad gives his own take on the morals from the Garfield Christmas Special, in which Garfield says "Christmas: It's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving."
- I posted this b/c the language is almost identical (Decemberween isn't about giving presents vs. Christmas, it's not the giving); both lines are given in a living room in front of Xmas decorations immediately following gift unwrapping, while the screen is zoomed in on a speaker giving a monologue; both have the same context of philosophy on gift-giving; and TBC have referenced 80s Xmas specials before. Comments from people who've seen the toon are extra appreciated. --Svelt
- That's a *very* far reach. Almost all cliched Christmas stories have a scene where somebody gives their own "true meaning of Christmas" in this same manner.
- Second. --thatkidsam strikes again!
- This is pretty unique to Garfield, actually. Peanuts and The Grinch are also about general gaudiness, Winnie the Poo uses different language & setting, etc. Never saw The Smurfs one. --Svelt
- Second. --thatkidsam strikes again!
- Decline - I don't see the connection. The language isn't "almost identical", it's "somewhat similar". — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:40, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second - You could just as easily say it's referencing the proto-South Park "Santa vs. Jesus", but it would be missing the point, namely that this is a reference to Xmas TV language in general. — sninky-chan 09:53, 21 Dec 2004 (GMT)
- Second. Strong Bad is just deliberately misquoting a popular 'moral'. -- Mithent 08:28, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Accept - I'm a bit tentative about it, sure. But Garfield was EXACTLY what I thought of when I heard that Strong Bad line. And no, I did not add the fact in question. --Jay 14:10, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline. The meaning of Christmas = not at all unique to Garfield. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
- Second tompagenet 14:20, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Ah, but the inflection and wording of the quote are, as far as I know. Okay, SB didn't use EXACTLY the same wording, but his inflection and the general sentiment - sans punchline - were the same. --68.196.82.110 22:15, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
- (Oh, the above was written by me. My parents' computer keeps bumping my "logged in" status and I forget to check.) --Jay 05:59, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
- The wording of the two quotes aren't the same. They're poles apart. Compare: "Decemberween isn't about getting people presents. It's about getting people good presents." And: "Christmas: it's not the giving. It's not the getting. It's the loving." What similarity is there between the two? --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
- Decline. For reasons stated by Upsilon that are too numerous to second each one. --FortyTwo 14:49, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
[edit] Candy Cane(declined)
The candy cane in Coach Z's locker room is from the Decemberween In July menu.
- Decline. The same candy cane can be seen elsewhere on the site, including 'SBemail Xmas Menu' and one could equally mention that the lights in Marzipan's hair are identical to those present on the two aforementioned menus...along with any other object that appears in this toon and a previous one. --The Paper
- Second. - «Rob»
- Decline. More importantly, this isn't very interesting. People should make sure that the first response to their facts isn't "So what?" --Chrysaor
[edit] Egg Nog Glass(declined)
The glass of egg nog The Cheat is holding is the same one seen in Decemberween Sweet Cuppin' Cakes.
- Decline As stated below, this is just a normal copy and paste, and is not fun at that. --Pianoplayerontheroof
- Decline. Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Decline. --super orange! 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Second'd. →evin290 12:45, 22 Jan 2005 (MST)
[edit] Dripping Sound(declined)
The dripping sound heard during Strong Sad's scene is the same one used in Main Page 14.
- Decline. Um... yeah. That's what dripping sounds like. Not fun. --Pianoplayerontheroof
- Second --kerrek_slaya
- Second. Wasn't this already discussed (and dismissed) regarding Coach Z's towel in the last Halloween toon? SailorHippyGirl
- Decline. Yes, TBC reuse things occasionally. This is because they are using Flash, and can copy and paste. These fall under "Glitches due to Flash software" above and do not make good fun facts. --24.21.86.243 00:02, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Decline. --super orange! 19:14, 3 Jan 2005 (MST)
[edit] Alms for the poor(declined)
Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" is a reference to the common call in Ye Olde London Towne "Alms for the poor!" (as shown in Christmas Carol and others).
- Decline. Complete speculation. Some people don't seem to understand that H*R is a silly cartoon, not a carefully thought out parody. --24.21.86.243 23:56, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Decline. --racerx_is_alive 13:21, 12 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Decline. Although I disagree with the "silly" comment above, I do agree that it's not much of a fun fact. "Alms for the poor" is just a regular old saying. People used to say it a long time ago. Just because Homsar says some nonsensical thing that was clearly based on that saying doesn't mean theres a fact, a reference or any fun in there! --evin290 19:59, 17 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Wrong. Accept. It's true and should be referenced as such.ISlayedTheKerrek
- Please sign your vote, unsigned votes do not count. Kamek 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Neutral While Homsar's saying is indeed a play on the old saying, it's well-known to most people and can be figured out easily. Kamek 09:37, 21 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Decline. And somebody slap whoever is posting the same "silly cartoon" reply for every STUFFed fact. Donny vs Universe
[edit] Marzipan's Purse(declined)
This is the first time we see Marzipan's purse.
- Decline. Unimportant fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Second. --Upsilon
[edit] Screentime(declined)
The Cheat has the least screentime. He's there for two seconds.
- Decline. Unimportant fact 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
- complain about you STOP POSTING MORE THAN ONE AS ONE SECTION!!!
- Second! --Pianoplayerontheroof
- Second. Yeah, we could do an analysis of every toon of how long everyone's on screen for, but we don't care. -- Mithent 06:08, 4 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Decline No matter how popular he is the website's called homestarrunner.com not thecheat.com.
- Complain!Nitpicky, ain't we? Who cares? ACCEPT! Just to shut you ip ISlayedTheKerrek
[edit] Homestar always confuses have and has(declined)
Homestar saying "Still has what it takes" is a reference to the email "army"
- No it isn't, Homestar is always using broken English 24.21.86.243 23:42, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Decline He always says have as has. "I think I has the solution" "Do you has what it takes?" «Rob»
- Second Worse still, his use of "has" in this case is grammatically correct. --````
- Decline. Similar phrase, massive stretch. --Upsilon
[edit] Alms for the Pudgy(declined)
Homsar's line "Alms for the pudgy!" might be a reference to the movie "Ben-Hur", in which a blind beggar calls out "Alms for the blind!"
- Decline. The phrase "Alms for the poor" or words to that effect have been in countless books, movies, plays, and television shows. -- FortyTwo 13:54, 26 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second --ninja pirate 22:12, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. It's a known phrase. -- Mithent 07:26, 1 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Second. --Pianoplayerontheroof
[edit] 1 on 1(declined)
This is the first time Homestar and Homsar have had a true '1 on 1' conversation. In Pumpkin Carve-nival, it was really Strong Bad, and in army he just addressed his troops rather than Homsar himself.
- Decline. Not only is this hardly significant, it's not even true (see theme park). --Upsilon
- Second. MadEwokHerd 08:24, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. - «Rob»
Oops...I'm the one who put this one on, I completely forgot Theme park. sorry bout that. XD - super orange
[edit] Electrical Tape?(declined)
Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape. Especially when The Cheat is electrically taped to him, like in SBEmail 46.
- Decline. That was duct tape. Even if it was the same tape, this isn't a fact, so much as a comment. - Rebochan 19:23, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --MadEwokHerd 19:20, 28 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --Upsilon
- Second. --homestarkid09
- Second. What does "Pom Pom sure loves that electrical tape" mean anyway? - «Rob»
- Second. Homestar is an idiot. He made up the whole "pom pom loves electrical tape" thing. --Kerrek Slaya!
- Accept. If ever one loved his electrical tape, twas Pom Pom.
[edit] Malloween Commercial
[edit] Mallowcremes(declined)
"Malloweens" may be a spoof on Mallowcremes, a popular candy-corn like candy.
- Decline. It's just a pun combining "Marshmallow" and "Halloween". --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
- Second. --ryandesign 20:56, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --Clever Ben
- Second. --Wilbur 13:18, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
[edit] Decemberween Kids' Book
[edit] Magic Ball #1(declined)
The representaion of the "magic ball" both telling the future and burning flesh may be a nod to the Palantir from The Lord of the Rings. These crystal balls gave clairvoyance and could sometimes burn when touched.
[edit] Magic Ball #2(declined)
The "magic ball" may also be a reference to the movie "Heavy Metal", which involved an evil magic ball that showed twisted images of the future and burned the flesh of whoever touched it.
[edit] Magic Ball #3(declined)
Or it may just be a reference to the classic toy "Magic 8 Ball" that supossedly told the future, but was really just random answers floating around in water, and you randomly saw one.
- Decline. I doubt it. Magic 8 Balls rarely burn the flesh off of anybody. --Lyzz
- Second. SB's magic ball only burns flesh when it glows, which doesn't apply to any of the above. --Svelt
[edit] impression
[edit] Elephant Slippers(declined)
When Homestar wears the "elephant" slippers, it may be a reference to when Strong Bad talks on the phone in 50 emails and describes Strong Sad as having "elephant feet" as he tries to sell him.
- Decline. This is a bit of a stretch. Kamek 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline. Strong Sad's resemblance to an elephant is a running joke on the site. --Upsilon
- Second. --Lyzz
- Second. --ryandesign 20:55, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
[edit] Get it off(declined)
Homestar's quick repetition of "get it off" closely mirror's Bubs' renditions of "check it out" and "the end" (and Strong Bad's "The Cheat") in Lookin' at a Thing in a Bag.
- Decline. I don't personally think this is noteworthy, but someone else might, so feel free to move it back if you think it is. Kamek 06:06, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline. I don't think there's really a connection. -- Wilbur 13:15, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
[edit] personal favorites
[edit] The Beginning and the End(accepted)
The two real e-mails both pertain to the fall of the Tandy 400 and the introduction of the Compy 386. It's possible that they are two of Strong Bad's favourites due to how much Strong Bad disliked the Tandy 400 in comparison to the Compy 386, as is evidenced by his indifference while knocking the Tandy off the desk in invisibility and his interminable crying at the end of virus.
- Rewrite. --Suicune64
- Accept. That is interesting. I'm unsure as to whether it's intentional, but it's definitely worth noting. --Upsilon
[edit] anything
[edit] Dan Vs. Jerome 2(declined)
Homestar's referring to Dan as Jerome is a reference to Stong Bad's calling emailers by names other than their own. Ex: to quote Upsilon a few lines ago, {We might as well put on monster truck, "Strong Bad calls the emailers Dan and Linda even though their names are Stan and Loretta." Or, on date, "Strong Bad calls the emailer Boston even though this was the location of the emailer, and not the name." } (needs a major rewrite). --Superdotman
- Oddly enough, this has been here for longer than two weeks and no one has voted. --MadEwokHerd 15:10, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
[edit] Soda Physics(declined)
The idea of the soda never running out is a likely reference to old cartoons, in which physics don't apply.
- Delete. Mostly speculation, not necessarily a reference to anything. -- Kamek
- Second. --Upsilon
- Second. --Tim333
- Second — InterruptorJones[[]] 14:45, 9 Dec 2004 (MST)
[edit] E-mail/E-nail & .exe/.com(declined)
Instead of typing "run sbemail.exe", Homestar types "run sbenail.com" --Ingeniousknight
- I haven't been adding comments while archiving things, but this has had no comments, despite being up for over two weeks. --MadEwokHerd 15:17, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
[edit] Freshley's(declined)
One of Homestar's shoe box shoes is the same one as in the email "Time Capsule" when he had a "gross old wig".--Ingeniousknight
- I haven't been adding comments while archiving things, but this has had no comments, despite being up for over two weeks. --MadEwokHerd 15:17, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
[edit] Computer or Chalkboard(declined)
At first, Homestar seems to think that the computer is a chalkboard. However, after writing his name, he uses it as a regular computer. Also, how does homestar know how to access Strongbad's e-mail? Could it be that he is always, as he says in 100, "behind the black"??? --Ingeniousknight
- I haven't been adding comments while archiving things, but this has had no comments, despite being up for over two weeks. --MadEwokHerd 15:17, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
[edit] Main Page 22
[edit] The Old Man Fishin'(declined)
When you see the picture of the Old Man fishin', he is from Peasant's Quest
- Decline. Already mentioned in the button description. -- Kamek
- Second. --Upsilon
- Second. Why are we getting so many ones like this? -- Mithent 13:42, 7 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. ??? O_0--Not Kevin (OK, I lied)
- Second. --Lyzz~ 10:06, 21 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --Yeah, it's already mentioned. --Clever Ben
- Second.Pretty obvious. --Wilbur 13:08, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Second.That's really the point. The virus was messing everything up, so Peasant's quest was playing along side the screen. It's like saying 'When he gets the virus, the screen pours out on the floor'. Pop tire 22:26, 24 Mar 2005 (MST)
[edit] the facts
[edit] G'oh!(accepted)
The way Strong Bad says Jess G.OH's last name is a reference to The Simpsons, in which Homer's catch phrase is "D'oh!"
- Accept. I'd believe this. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
- Accept. Although, it is a popular phrase for many other TV shows. But that's probably because of The Simpsons.
- Second. --MadEwokHerd 10:32, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline I think this is just Strong Bad being Strong Bad.
- agree That sure sounds like homer. -Nate
- Revise & accept. change the word 'is' (in 'is a reference') to 'could be'. --Pianoplayerontheroof
[edit] Channel 3(declined)
The television was on Channel 3. Most VCRs in the United States (and other NTSC countries) send their signals on channel 3 or 4.
- Decline. I just don't think this is very interesting. I'd guess that most people either know this (in an NTSC country) or don't care (everywhere else). --Chrysaor
- Second. I don't think people in NTSC countries care either. --Ninjin Ninja
- Second. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 17:22, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --MadEwokHerd
- Second. --seedling 14:14, 20 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline. Most? I've seen MANY that send to channel 3. --ED!smilde
- Decline. Most VCRs can be changed to work on either 3 or 4. --Lyzz
- Delcine Who cares? It's too obvious and not "fun" at all --Clever Ben
- Decline So what? Video Game Consoles do that too.
[edit] Homestar's cartoon(declined)
The irony of the conversation between Strong Bad and Homestar is that Homestar really does eponymously star in many of his own cartoons, however, because the website has been hijacked by Strong Bad to the extent that it's hardly Homestar's website any more, it may seem that Homestar doesn't have his own cartoon.
- Rewrite/Decline. I'm not sure this belongs in Fun Facts, as written at least. It's speculative, and the idea is obvious to most people. --Chrysaor
- Second. --MadEwokHerd 19:39, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline -- Asploder
- Decline. Even though I'm the one who put it up there, I realise now that it's rather too obvious. --Upsilon
- Second. More opinion than fact. --Ninjin Ninja
- Weak Rewrite. Less obvious to newcomers, but a decline is reasonable. Should be shortened to one line, and read "Homestar is the eponymous star of," since eponymous has no adverb (see Ox. Engl. Dict. or dictionary.com). --Svelt
[edit] radio
[edit] Stop calling me Senator(declined)
Strong Sad's calling Strong Bad "Senator" refers to Marzipan's Answering Machine Version 11.2 when he pretends to be Bob... Statesman running for elected official. When Strong Bad calls back later as himself, he talks about Senator Statesbob and Senator Bobblehead's earlier call. --beanluc
- Revise, accept. Sounds plausible, but the last sentence (about his later call) doesn't seem relevant. --MadEwokHerd 10:36, 22 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline. Unlikely. --[[User:Upsilon|Upsilon]]
- Second My thoughts exactly. -Clever Ben
- Second --ninja pirate 22:22, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
[edit] Four-and-twenty stone(declined)
1936 Strong Bad mentions the radio adding "four-and-twenty stone to one's voice". This may be a reference to marijuana: in popular culture, 420 is the number of chemicals found in marijuana, and is often used as a sly reference. "Stone" may be a further play on words, referring to being "stoned", or high on marijuana, as well as to the unit of weight.
- Decline. Unlikely. It's more probable that it's a reference to Sing a Song of Sixpence. --Upsilon
- Second. While I don't see how it's a reference to the nursery rhyme, any more than it's a reference to the Chaucerian miller, I believe TBC wouldn't promote marijuana here. --beanluc
- Second. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 16:39, 16 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. The 420 chemicals part is a myth. The number refers to 4:20pm, supposedly when most people light up. I concur with beanluc, although putting 4:20 next to "stone" should have been avoided. --Svelt
- Second. --Ninjin Ninja
- Just a comment: 4 and 20 stones is not a reference to marijuana, but maybe to That A Ghost, where the reward was 27 and 1 pennies.
- Doubtful. The "26 and 1 pennies" line is reference to how old British currency was expressed as "two and six" (for two shillings and sixpence). "Four and twenty" is just an old-fashioned way of saying "twenty-four". [[User:Upsilon|--Upsilon]]
- Decline. The term 'stone' is an old measure of weight. --Lyzz
- Decline. I concur with Upsilon about Sing a Song of Sixpence ("four-and-twenty blackbirds baked in a pie", four-and-twenty being the handiest number in the "old format" available in the minds of the audience) and with Lyzz (a stone is fourteen pounds, as noted elsewhere). — sninky-chan
- Decline. 'Stone' is referring to weight, so he's probably saying how his voice sounds 'heavier.' -- thatkidsam
- No vote from me on this, but 420 is the police code for marjuana possesion i believe and that is where the 4:20 comes from, pot smokers have a holiday of sorts on april 20th, and light up at 4:20 pm...not that i would know ,dimoko 20:24, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)
- Decline That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. "4-and-20" is an old-fashioned way of saying 24, and "stone" is a unit of weight. -Clever Ben
- Decline It is also referring to the adage that the camera (being on TV...) adds 16 pounds. So old-tyme Strong Bad is saying in an old-timey way that the radio makes him sound fat.-Anonymous
Four hundred twenty is not a refernce to the number of chemicals found in marijuana. It is not the time smokers light up. It is the police code for possession, though, and that's where the association of that number with pot smoking comes from. Just my two cents- I don't think that Sir Strong Bad's use of that specific number is any reference to marijuana. Stone is a measure of weight (about twenty pounds I believe) and so the statement is likely a reference to the commonly held superstition among actors that being on TV makes one look fat.
[edit] The fish was delish(declined)
Strong Bad's test phrase may be a refrence to "104.7, The Fish", a popular christian radio station in Atlanta.
(Why I think so:I live near Atlanta, and "The Fish" has billboards up all over the place. It's nearly impossible to live in Atlanta for more then three weeks and not see one. TBC Must have at least heard of them. Plus, as this was an email about radio, I don't think it's much of a strech. -James)
- Decline. It's actually an old broadcasting clich� - that phrase has been used to test the levels of the F and SH sounds in the recording/broadcast. When those sounds are too "hot", the mike can be moved or covered to reduce the "swishiness". --beanluc
- Please see below as I'm adding this as a fact for consideration. --beanluc
- Second. --Ninjin Ninja
- Second. --Lyzz
[edit] Crackity towel!(declined)
Strong Mad's confused reply to Strong Sad's announcer-voice tirade in the easter egg may refer to Coach Z's "Crackity towel!" in Halloween Fairstival.
- Decline. A vast stretch. --Upsilon
- Second. That's barely a reference. --FortyTwo
- Second. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 21:56, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Ditto. Kamek 05:42, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --The Real Zajac 12:42, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
- Second. --Ninjin Ninja
- Decline He's not even saying "crackity towel". He's repeating what Strong Sad said. -Clever Ben
[edit] Senor Cardgage(declined)
Strong Bad's college radio voice sounds suspiciously like Senor Cardgage.
- Decline. That's because Strong Bad and Cardgage have the same voice. --Upsilon
- Decline. The college radio voice has different inflections and doesn't use "almost words" like Cardgage. --FortyTwo
- Second. --Ninjin Ninja
- Seconded on both accounts. Kamek 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 21:59, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline. If you ever listen to college radio they mumble a bunch and sound unprofessional.--ninja pirate 22:20, 27 Dec 2004 (MST)
[edit] Crackotage(declined)
Strong Sad's radio announcer voice sounds suspiciously like Crackotage
- Decline. Again, a vast stretch. --Upsilon
- Second --FortyTwo
- Second. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 22:00, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. They're very similar, but not the same. Also not sure if it's productive to nitpick Matt's voices, such as complaining that the kids from Malloween Commercial sound like Strong Sad. Didn't keep me from enjoying the toon. --Svelt
- Second. Kamek 05:43, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --Ninjin Ninja
[edit] Bruce Almighty(declined)
"That's the way the cookie crumbles" was Bruce Nolan's sign off phrase for his newscasting job in the Jim Carrey movie "Bruce Almighty."
- Decline. A common phrase, not unique to Bruce Almighty. --Upsilon
- Second tompagenet 14:24, 25 Dec 2004 (MST)
- But has it ever been used on the TV or Radio before the movie? --BegyLips
- Yes..Yes it has. I remember hearing it on The Simpsons in 1997 so this should be declined.. Which leads us to a Second. --RPharazon
- That's what I needed to hear...Second. --BegyLips
- Second. Kamek 05:44, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. The Real Zajac 12:37, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
- Second. Didn't realize I hadn't voted on this. People keep adding it EVERY DAY, so I've added a comment (only visible to someone trying to edit the page) NOT to add the Bruce Almighty "reference". --Jay 23:15, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --Ninjin Ninja
- Second. -- SailorHippyGirl
- Decline. looks like this fact is a definite NO. better delort it.--J to the sag
- Decline! "That's the way the cookie crumbles" is a common phrase that originated ages ago, if anything.
[edit] Plugged in(declined)
Homestar's radio is plugged into the same socket where his cow lamp used to be plugged-in.
- Decline. because we can't see where it's plugged in AT ALL. Or maybe rewrite to state that it's on the same DESK. --Jay 09:54, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline. - Just not interesting. — InterruptorJones[[]] 10:37, 13 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. Who cares? --Tim333
- Second. --The Real Zajac 12:40, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
- Second. --Ninjin Ninja
[edit] Highball!(accepted)
The way in which Homestar says "highball!" when throwing the glass at the radio is a reference to how he said "hi-ya!" during the Champeenship in montage
- Neutral This was a reference of mine that I put up that seems to have fallen by the wayside. I personally picked up on the similarity almost immediately, but I shall put it up to vote this time. --TheNintenGenius 17:12, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Accept I thought exactly the same thing (before you posted it on the Wiki), so I'm accepting this. --Jay 17:14, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. Pretty clear. --Svelt
- Second. I thought he was saying "hi-ya" to begin with. --Kamek 05:45, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --The Real Zajac 12:39, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
- Second. --Upsilon
- Decline. Though it might sound similar, the statement that it is a reference is a bit of a stretch. That might just be the way he's supposed to talk. --Ninjin Ninja
- Second. --Lyzz
[edit] The rah-dio really does add four and twenty stone to one's voice!
The Strong Bad, worrying about his appearance of extra weight on the air, is lampooning contemporary show business: In television, it's said that "the camera adds ten pounds". --beanluc
- Decline. This is already up in Fun Facts, man. :o) --Svelt
- Withdrawn! Heh, I see it now. Looked for it before, too --beanluc
- Accept. Lighten up a little, Svelt! --kerrek_slaya
- "Lighten up"? We don't need every fact repeated over and over... --Jay 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
- What do you mean, "lighten up"? If it's already up then there's no reason to add it a second time. --Jay 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Why should he "lighten up"? Don't you think it's annoying when the same information is provided over and over on the same page? --Jay 00:00, 24 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Okay, sorry, I couldn't resist. DECLINE
- sorry i thought this was the next fun fact up. my bad. -- kerrek_slaya
[edit] animal
[edit] Foster's Home(declined)
The final of Strong Bad's made-up animals, Sterrance, could be a reference to Terrance, the evil bully-of-a-brother of Mac, the main charactor of the Cartoon Network show, Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends. Sterrance is blue, which could be a reference to "Bloo", another one of the show's main characters.
- Yeah.... Um. Yeah. I don't like to dis other people's work, but I thought I should submit this for review. --Svelt
- Decline. Yeah, this is definitely not worth it. You could make a connection to anything if you tried that hard. --Ninjin Ninja
- Second.--Tiggera 19:00, 18 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second.-- SailorHippyGirl
- Second.-- Wilbur 12:36, 2 Jan 2005 (MST)
- Decline. I thought this at first, but now it seems like too far a stretch. --Lyzz
- I wouldn't be surprised if they used it for inspiration. :) Nothing explicit ties it, though. --Svelt
- Decline Guess what? There's a character on some cartoon show named Kevin! Kevin is automatically a reference to this character! Never mind that they have no similarity besides their name! It just HAS to be a reference based solely on the name! -Clever Ben
[edit] Deep Sea Fangily Fish(declined)
The deep sea fangly fish was featured in the beginning of The Simpsons on December 12th 2004, sorry if I didn't edit this right, I tried my best.
- Neutral. I have to see it to beleive it. Can anyone get any information, maybe a picture or something? http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Image:simpfanglyfish.jpg
Note: Also did some minor edits to the fact (Grammar and punctuation). -RPharazon
- Decline. - I don't see any connection with The Simpsons, here. The Fangly Fish is similar to the angler fish, an actual fish which also happens to appear in Finding Nemo and elsewhere. — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline. - It's just an angler fish. It's yellow, it doesn't have the Strong Bad mask or the Homestar lure or the deck, and it's WAY too close to the creation of the e-mail for this to be even remotely likely (most television shows, including the Simpsons, are filmed months before airing.) --Jay 17:07, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline. People are taking this deep sea fangly fish thing way out of proportion. Kamek 05:46, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --The Real Zajac 12:41, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
- Second. --Upsilon
- Second. --Ninjin Ninja
- Second. -- SailorHippyGirl
- Decline It's a friggin' ANGLERFISH for crying out loud!!! -Clever Ben
[edit] Pikmin thing?(declined)
the red steckled elbermung may be a paradoy of the bulborb from the game Pikmin.
- Note: I thought this might have merit, given that I've not played Pikmin and it's not impossible, to my knowledge, that it could be a parody. Either way I don't think it deserved to just drop off like it did, and since I didn't want to get involved in an edit war, let's let it at least get Declined/Accepted first. (If it does get accepted, though, it desperately needs a rewrite. Bad grammar ahoy.) --Shadow Hog 13:04, 11 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline What? Pikmin? Well, maybe other people will see the connection but I sure didn't.--O&U
- Decline There's some similarity, but I doubt it. --MadEwokHerd 10:53, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline I'm quite familiar with the game Pikmin (it's a favorite of mine), yet The Red Steckled Elbermung does not look anything like a Bulborb. --TheNintenGenius
- Second -Clever Ben
17:04, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. I wouldn't be surprised if TBC, being Nintendo fans, would have seen the Bulborb, but the two don't look that similar. --Ninjin Ninja
- To quote Strong Bad: "No no no." Kamek 05:47, 15 Dec 2004 (MST)
[edit] Speculations, Again(declined)
Strong Bad urges viewers to check out the Lappy's "speculations" rather than "specifications." this is a reference to Senor Cardgage's bizarre usage of common words.
- Decline Stretch...huge stretch --ninja pirate 17:00, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second --Tiggera 23:31, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Accept (somewhat reluctantly) Senor Cardage is supposed to resemble Strong Bad, but I will admit this fact does stretch it a bit. (And, capitalize the "This" in the second sentence.) --oddtodd 20:21, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --The Real Zajac 23:29, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
- Decline. This is not a reference to anything, it is merely one of Strong Bad's peculiarities. We don't need every word he says out of the ordinary deconstructed in these fun facts. --Tim333 17:48, 4 Dec 2004 (EST)
- Decline. Just another Strong Bad malaprop. Cardgage isn't famous for bizarrely using common words - "combolations", "excardon" and "canceltation" are not common words. --Upsilon
- Second. Fairly typical Strongbad lingo. --Svelt
- Second. --Ninjin Ninja
[edit] Finding Nemo(declined)
Deep-sea fangly fish, looks like the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo.
- Decline. Anglerfish are by no means exclusive to Finding Nemo. --Upsilon
- Second. --TheNintenGenius 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
- Second. - SailorHippyGirl
- Second. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. This is a general comment not a reference citation. --The Real Zajac 23:17, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
- Second. -- Kamek
- Second. --MadEwokHerd 10:55, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 22:02, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Revise & Accept change "the fish that first attacks Marlin in Finding Nemo" to "an Anglerfish" and this could be ok! --Tiggera, who hasn't seen the page yet.
- accept MetaStar Hmm, I first mentioned this on the Deep Sea Fangly Fish page.. one thing that differentiates both this and the finding nemo fish from a real anglerfish is the "christmas lights". *shrug*
- Are you sure about that? I saw Finding Nemo and as far as I can remember, the anglerfish in that film was pretty standard. --Upsilon
- Delete This has been made irrelevant by the inclusion of a similar, but more relevant anglerfish comment on the page Vannav
- Decline Sure, like angler fish never ever existed in anything besides Finding Nemo... --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline Chased Marlin and Dory? I don't think that the fangly-fish has anything to do with Finding Nemo.
- Decline - The angler fish has appeared elsewhere and is not exclusive to Nemo. — InterruptorJones[[]] 21:45, 12 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline Absolutely nothing to do with him --- Bobcat
- Decline How many times must I say, IT'S A FRIGGIN' ANGLERFISH, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! (Sorry for yelling) -Clever Ben
[edit] Second Wall Breaking(declined)
This is yet another e-mail when Strong Bad seems to know he's being watched by people in the line "goodbye everybody"
- Decline. I think that fourth wall breakage should be listed on its own seperate page at this point, as it's been done so much. --TheNintenGenius 14:42, 29 Nov 2004 (MST)
- Second. -- Kamek
- Decline.' I made a new Fourth Wall Breaks page for this sort of thing. --Vannav
- Decline A lot (if not all) of the emails give me the impression that Strong Bad knows he's being watched. Therefore, this fact isn't interesting to me. --oddtodd
- Decline It'd be more interesting to detail the instances they don't break the fourth wall. I mean, Strong Bad addresses the audience in the first few e-mails. --tender branson
- Decline. Haven't we had something about the fourth wall in here already? Strong Bad Email in itself breaks the fourth wall. --Upsilon
- Decline The Strong Bad e-mails make no sense if he doesn't realize he's being watched. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Decline. Strong Bad usually says something like "Send me email!" --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --The Real Zajac 23:18, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
- Second. --Ninjin Ninja
- Second. --Clever Ben
[edit] Soolnd(declined)
The Pardack has one of Strong Sad's legs as one of its arms
- Decline. Has been noted in transcript, is obvious to anyone watching the email. --Vannav
- Second. --Upsilon
- Second. --TheNintenGenius 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
- Second. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --The Real Zajac 23:19, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
- Second. -- Kamek
- Second. -- sterrence
- Second. -- Wow, a lot of seconds.... --RPharazon
- Second. I think this one's pretty much decided. --LynkStarr
- Now, I'm sorry I did this to whoever made the funfact but... Second-- Bonkava!
- Second. --[[User:Kilroy|Kilroy/talk]] 22:03, 14 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --Ninjin Ninja
- Second. --Clever Ben
[edit] LCD Screen(declined)
When you click on the screen of the Lappy, it goes all "wavy", like on a normal labtop.
- Decline Already been noted --Vannav
- Decline (but move) It's a feature of the Lappy, not directly due to this email. Move it to the Lappy page. --oddtodd
- Second. --Upsilon
- Second. --TheNintenGenius 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
- Second. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --The Real Zajac 12:45, 15 Dec 2004 (PST)
- Decline. This is already at the Lappy 486 page. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. -- Mithent 07:16, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. -- Kamek
- Second. --Ninjin Ninja
- Second. --Clever Ben
[edit] Ridiculous (declined)
The statement that Strong Bad says "{The Cheat} uses NO computers!" is incorrect, since the Cheat animated the Fangly fish animation with his [Tangerine Dreams] computer
- Decline With something like this, I'm sure no one will mind if I just delete it, right? I'm just going to do that from here on in. --Vannav
- Absolutely. This kind of "Fun Fact" doesn't really belong in STUFF. --Upsilon
- What is this doing on here? Did somebody, like, not read the transcript before shoving this up? --TheNintenGenius 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
- Decline for what I hope are extremely obvious reasons. Strong Bad doesn't even SAY "no computers". Forget STUFF, this should have been deleted right off the bat - in fact, it should never have been added. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Whole-hearted second. --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second^243. Anyone who actually listens to the email, and not just look at it because it 'Looks cool..duhh...pictures....'. I also DISTINCTLY heard NEW not NO. --RPharazon
- Second. -- Kamek
- Second. Person who heard 'no computers' is hard of hearing? -- Mithent 13:15, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --Ninjin Ninja
- Decline. This is a no no. --The Real Zajac 23:21, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
- I'm not registered, just a comment... This is the stupidest thing ever. Delete it. It's "new" computers!
- Decline. Whoever posted this must be hard of hearing. It's N-E-W Computers! --Clever Ben
[edit] Christmas Lights(revised and accepted)
The fangly fish having Christmas lights is one of the few H*R references to Christmas. It is more often referred to as Decemberween.
- Accept Wow I just realized that. You are correct sir!
- Second Decemberween is the same as Christmas on H*R.com. This is made clear because on one of the Decemberween toons, the file name contains 'xmas'. --fatpie
- That doesn't mean it's the same as Christmas (which it clearly isn't). It's just that the Decemberween cartoon is always brought out at Christmas. (Okay, except the last one. My point stands.) --Upsilon
- Please sign with --~~~; it's really easy. --oddtodd
- Second Decemberween is the same as Christmas on H*R.com. This is made clear because on one of the Decemberween toons, the file name contains 'xmas'. --fatpie
- Decline Decemberween isn't really Christmas; they just happen to be similar. Also, referring to "Christmas lights" doesn't seem like a direct reference to Christmas; blue and white "Christmas lights" aren't often called "Hannukah lights." --oddtodd
- Rewrite. I suggest:
Strong Bad's mention of "Christmas lights" is one of the few references to Christmas on the site, since Christmas is replaced by [[Decemberween]].
- ...since this is an interesting point, but Decemberween and Christmas aren't the same. --Upsilon
- But.. in The Best Decemberween Ever they sing "Decemberween, Decemberween, you're fifty-five days after Halloween," which would put it on December 25th. --miket61
- So they fall on the same day. So do my birthday and Candlemas, but that doesn't mean they're the same thing. In any case, this is horribly beyond the point. --Upsilon
- I gotta Second this one. --Jay 00:17, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Uh, what exactly are you seconding? Mister Mister 19:39, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Sorry, forgot an asterisk and was AFK for too long. --Jay 21:42, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Uh, what exactly are you seconding? Mister Mister 19:39, 5 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. Christmas really isn't usually referenced. -- Mithent 13:16, 2 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --The Real Zajac 23:22, 4 Dec 2004 (PST)
- Second. -- Kamek
- Second. -- sterrence
- Second. -- «Rob»
- Second. -- madkayaker
- Second. -- Tim333
- Second. --Ninjin Ninja
- Second. --Nevrmore
- But.. in The Best Decemberween Ever they sing "Decemberween, Decemberween, you're fifty-five days after Halloween," which would put it on December 25th. --miket61
- Decline Referencing the style of decoration does not necessarily mean referencing the holiday. They have Christmas lights for almost any occasion now, even just white-bulb ones for illumination. --TheNintenGenius 20:16, 30 Nov 2004 (MST)
- Second. SailorHippyGirl
- I've never heard "Christmas lights" used in any context outside actual Christmas decoration --Upsilon
- Decline. We're getting over-sensitive to references now! --The Somewhat Awesome Jesty 04:15, 1 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --Tiggera 23:27, 3 Dec 2004 (MST)
- Second. --LynkStarr 21:10, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)
- Second. Else someone needs to say that Chick Fil-A in Senor Mortgage and Hardee's in colonization were the few refe