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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:41 pm 
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^But you could send in your vote at any time during the night round.
So it doesn't matter really what day you're on, it's what round you post in.


But the "evidence" against me is that the SK was active around the day round I was active. You make a good point though: Being active in the day and being active in the night has pretty much no correlation.

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That doesnt disprove anything or prove anything. You are agreeing that the evidence is strong against you and that I was right in you being inactive. How does that help you when you ask us to abstain or vote someone else off?

If you have some other evidence that shows you are not the SK Id gladly consider it as in no way has my vote been set in stone.


I'm just being honest here. The evidence is pretty solid, considering it's all you have to go by.

I'd also like everyone to take Susan into consideration for the SK. First of all, Susan brought up this observation. I can guarantee you none of you would have made a link like that. Also, as the SK, Susan would be able to note who's floating, when those floaters actually vote, and time their kills to set a floater up in this way.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:48 pm 
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^That's a good idea. If you turn out to be a normal townie I'll be wary of Susan, but we can't tell for sure until one of you is dead. And I think it's too late to change votes (I'm never making that mistake again)

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:03 pm 
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Also, as the SK, Susan would be able to note who's floating, when those floaters actually vote, and time their kills to set a floater up in this way.

Except for the fact that the floater idea was brought up after Susan accused you, and prior to that people were voting for moderately vocal people.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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Funk it, I don't know who to vote for. Susan and Mike both seem to be suspicious.

I abstain.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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Yes, the term floater was brought up after Susan accused me. But Susan still used the basis that I was inactive (and therefore noted beforehand that there were inactive players) to accuse me of being the SK.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:09 pm 
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I think we can stop this SK business and get back to the primary focus: wolves. The SK can HELP us too. We're bound to have a wolf die one of these days. We need to get to the guys that are guaranteed to hurt us.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:17 pm 
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sk is worse in the long run noid, as there is only one of him/her/it.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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sk is worse in the long run noid, as there is only one of him/her/it.


No it's not. SK has no alignment. SK can help both teams. With a little bit of luck SK will help us out.

You seem to be pretty protective of the wolves here...I'm not flinging around suspicions (because look where that got me), but...

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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All Im saying is that the sk more dangerous than the wolves later, thus it stands to reason, we should get rid of him as early as possible and then focus on the wolves.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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That's true, but I'd like to see if we can play the SK to an advantage. To me, the SK can be like a campfire: it can cook your food or burn your hands.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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The sk is just as clueless as us as to who are wolves right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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...and that's why the SK can help. SK kills all with no discrimination,

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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The SK is just as dangerous, not more dangerous. Both the SK and the mutants are trying to kill us. Getting the SK would be a big help but there's a possibility that he would off the mutants as well as the humans.

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There's little evidence for Biscuit. Remember in the last game, when we all thought STu was a villain because he told us in his PM he was a human? I'm convinced that this is the same deal with Biscuit.

There's a lot of evidence for Biscuit. He's been nothing short of suspicious since this game started. Just go back and read his posts. They're not even rational half the time.

It's a tough call for me on this vote, so I'm sticking with Biscuit, since it looks like Mike is gone anyway.

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The sk is just as clueless as us as to who are wolves right now.

Which is why they could help us. They could kill townies or mutants in the night round.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:46 pm 
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He's been nothing short of suspicious since this game started. Just go back and read his posts. They're not even rational half the time.


I'll admit Biscuit is suspicious, but I feel like using the same old argument over and over again, so so was STu, in the last game and he turned out to be a human. He just was starting his TWG career and didn't know the right...maneuvers.

I really want to hear Capt's opinion on this. Where is he?

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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By the way, all I can think of when looking at this topic's subject is "Commence the jigglin"

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:12 pm 
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And the serial killer is obviously inactive...maybe take a look at inactive users?


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We really gotta look for evidence, guys - 3 rounds in and we're getting the crap kicked out of us. We can't let this be the first wolf win.


These two posts are what made me decide to go digging in the posts of the past for clues. You just happened to fit the bill Mike. Also, you say the SK might have set you up by choosing when to kill but that would be extremely hard. You see, night rounds happen before day rounds in this game so the SK would have had to have known ahead of time that you were not going to be active in the first day round to start setting you up in the first place by night killing the first night. Unless they can travel through time in real life to read the boards before anyone else I cant see this happening.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:22 pm 
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Shoot, sorry guys, I've been doing other things all day, guys. I'll get back on this evening (this round ends at ten, right?) and give my quip. Probably 630/7ish, for those that like their schedules.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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He's been nothing short of suspicious since this game started. Just go back and read his posts. They're not even rational half the time.


I'll admit Biscuit is suspicious, but I feel like using the same old argument over and over again, so so was STu, in the last game and he turned out to be a human. He just was starting his TWG career and didn't know the right...maneuvers.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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The Noid wrote:
I'll admit Biscuit is suspicious, but I feel like using the same old argument over and over again, so so was STu, in the last game and he turned out to be a human. He just was starting his TWG career and didn't know the right...maneuvers.

I agree, I'm not saying Biscuit is definitely a wolf. But, apart from trying to find the SK, a task I agree is not in our best interest right now, who else do we have to vote for? Can you name anyone else who is more suspicious than Biscuit? Sure, the amount of suspicion we have for him in no way makes this a sure thin, but at least we have [i]something[i] for him. Each person can abstain all they want, but we, as a whole, need to lynch somebody, and I think that ought to be the person with the highest chance of being a villian. Hence, Biscuithead.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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I'll admit Biscuit is suspicious, but I feel like using the same old argument over and over again, so so was STu, in the last game and he turned out to be a human. He just was starting his TWG career and didn't know the right...maneuvers.

I agree, I'm not saying Biscuit is definitely a wolf. But, apart from trying to find the SK, a task I agree is not in our best interest right now, who else do we have to vote for? Can you name anyone else who is more suspicious than Biscuit? Sure, the amount of suspicion we have for him in no way makes this a sure thin, but at least we have something for him. Each person can abstain all they want, but we, as a whole, need to lynch somebody, and I think that ought to be the person with the highest chance of being a villian. Hence, Biscuithead.


Um, yeah. I think that Capt. is not playing 100% for humans.

Before you call me a wolf, look at the evidence. All of his votes seem to lead to humans. Several people voted for him out of the blue with no explanation whatsoever. And yes, I know that he posted he was not suspicious of Biscuit, but I really do think that was to throw suspicion off of himself. And that's a really really clever thing to do, if he is a wolf. If he isn't then I guess I'm a random guessing crackpot.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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Why did you quote my post?


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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Can you name anyone else who is more suspicious than Biscuit?


Otherwise I wouldn't have stated my suspicions.

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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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Ohhhh, you were answering the question. My bad. I thought maybe you mistook me for Capt for a sec there.

I agree the fact that he got spontaneously nominated and elected for mayor is kinda fishy, but

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So has everyone else's as far as we know, since only humans have died so far. We can't really use vote patterns as evidence until we actually get a wolf (which kinda sucks, 'cause it's hard to get wolves without vote patterns :P)

Either way, I don't think Capt is suspicious enough yet for me to vote for him, especially 'cause it would suck to lose a player as strong as he if he were a townie. We should keep our eye on him, though


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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And the serial killer is obviously inactive...maybe take a look at inactive users?


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We really gotta look for evidence, guys - 3 rounds in and we're getting the crap kicked out of us. We can't let this be the first wolf win.


These two posts are what made me decide to go digging in the posts of the past for clues. You just happened to fit the bill Mike. Also, you say the SK might have set you up by choosing when to kill but that would be extremely hard. You see, night rounds happen before day rounds in this game so the SK would have had to have known ahead of time that you were not going to be active in the first day round to start setting you up in the first place by night killing the first night. Unless they can travel through time in real life to read the boards before anyone else I cant see this happening.


Unless the SK decides to kill and waits to see if the attention draws some inactive users out.

But, seriously, activity during the night and activity during the day isn't necessarily correlated.


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Well, yeah, I guess you're right there. I should lay off on pointing my finger from voting patterns until we actually get a wolf.

srry cap

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Unless the SK decides to kill and waits to see if the attention draws some inactive users out.

But, seriously, activity during the night and activity during the day isn't necessarily correlated.


I don't see why the SK killing would bring them out when the mutants killing doesn't. And I know it may not be correlated, I'm just using the evidence at hand to try and score a successful point. I don't see anyone else doing the same and if that kept up we would never even have a chance of winning.

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Susan, the only goal you're working towards right now is the death of another townie. The fact that you're working very hard towards that is pretty scary.

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I don't see why the SK killing would bring them out when the mutants killing doesn't.

Mutant kills happen every night. An SK killing is a rare thing apparently. Plus, the SK killing brought me out.


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 Post subject: Re: Mafia: Day 3- Commence to votelation
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You have not shown me any proof to lead me to believe I'm killing a townie as of yet. If you can give me even a fraction of a doubt Ill change my vote. Also, why does it matter that the killing of the SK is rarer then the mutants, its still just a killing and is no different from the other killings that have occurred.

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You have not shown me any proof to lead me to believe I'm killing a townie as of yet. If you can give me even a fraction of a doubt Ill change my vote. Also, why does it matter that the killing of the SK is rarer then the mutants, its still just a killing and is no different from the other killings that have occurred.


What proof can I possibly offer? All I can do is try my best to disprove your coincidental evidence. It's a killing different from other killings because it's a Serial Killer killing and how often does that happen?


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The SK is a rarer sight, actually. Had he killed every round it wouldn't be, but considering he only did it in one round, it's a rare thing. Either it's coincidental and he forgets / is inactive, or this is actually an elaborate plan of his and he's playing us like fools.

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