Harry Potter ***Possible Spoiler Warnings***

The Noid · **Posted:** Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:11 pm

Also, if Harry's a horcrux (and that's why he has the powers), Voldemort probably won't be stopped. Because Harry'd have to die AND Voldemort would too. So unless there's a gigantic explosion or there's some weird stuff going on, it ain't gonna happen.

(that's what I would love to see happen - Voldemort dies in a gas fire. It'd be so anticlimactic.)

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:29 pm

The Noid wrote:

Also, if Harry's a horcrux (and that's why he has the powers), Voldemort probably won't be stopped. Because Harry'd have to die AND Voldemort would too. So unless there's a gigantic explosion or there's some weird stuff going on, it ain't gonna happen.

(that's what I would love to see happen - Voldemort dies in a gas fire. It'd be so anticlimactic.)

You just answered the book.

Al Capone II · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:38 am

Rowling might keep Harry alive in order to ensure that her children would continue to have money because I bet that the kids of the next generation wouldn't be interested in the books if they knew that Harry dies.

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:42 am

Al Capone II wrote:

Rowling might keep Harry alive in order to ensure that her children would continue to have money because I bet that the kids of the next generation wouldn't be interested in the books if they knew that Harry dies.

News Flash: People keep reading Catcher in the Rye even though they know the ending. Why? BECAUSE ITS A CLASSIC.

The Noid · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:51 am

Anybody else think Neville's going to become Herbology teacher?

I think it seems obvious.

Cleverdan · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:53 am

Yeah, I agree. It is prooty obvious.

Didymus · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:03 am

I don't know. Remember, the prophecy about Harry is somehow connected to Neville, too. When the prophecy was first given, it was believed that it could be either boy. But after Voldemort was defeated and Harry lived, it became popular belief that it must have been about Harry. I think that somehow Neville is going to be instrumental in the final battle.

Al Capone II · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:21 am

Yeah, the same way Obi-Wan was instrumental to Luke Skywalker before the final showdown with Vader.

bwave · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:24 am

Al Capone II wrote:

Yeah, the same way Obi-Wan was instrumental to Luke Skywalker before the final showdown with Vader.

I wouldnt say for sure that those 2 situations are all that similar.

Darth vader was the person in the prophecy, whereas in harry potter, it was neville and harry who might be part of the prophecy.

Al Capone II · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:10 am

bwave wrote:

Al Capone II wrote:

Yeah, the same way Obi-Wan was instrumental to Luke Skywalker before the final showdown with Vader.

I wouldnt say for sure that those 2 situations are all that similar.

Darth vader was the person in the prophecy, whereas in harry potter, it was neville and harry who might be part of the prophecy.

Not really. First of all, Yoda said that the prophecy might have been misread (which it was) and Dumbledore said that there was no doubt that Harry was the boy that the prophecy refers to. Second, I believe that Neville will get killed by Voldemort and this act will give Harry more strength, enabling him to defeat Voldemort.

Didymus · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:19 am

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First of all, Yoda said that the prophecy might have been misread (which it was)

Actually, no, the prophecy was not misread. Vader DID bring balance to the Force. It was after several years of darkness and the near death of his own son, but it was in fact Vader who did it.

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Dumbledore said that there was no doubt that Harry was the boy that the prophecy refers to.

But that was Dumbledore's assessment. Your conclusion assumes that Dumbledore could not himself be wrong about that. He may be.

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Second, I believe that Neville will get killed by Voldemort and this act will give Harry more strength, enabling him to defeat Voldemort.

There is yet another possibility, one involving a common theme regarding "the Chosen One" in literature: Harry might die. It has already been hinted at that Harry himself may be the Last Horcrux, in which case he would have to die in order for Voldemort to die. But then, if that happened, either Harry must come back to life somehow to fulfill the prophecy, or someone else it going to have to take Voldemort out. Neville would be the perfect candidate (except he'd totally have to beef up or catch Voldemort completely unprepared, which wouldn't really be that hard if Voldemort becomes overconfident after Harry's death).

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:54 am

Is it just me, or does it seem like Rowling just ripped most of Star Wars and replaced a few key points with parts of her own?

Didymus · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:12 am

The Jedi didn't use pseudo-Latin.

Rusty · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:36 am

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote:

Al Capone II wrote:

Rowling might keep Harry alive in order to ensure that her children would continue to have money because I bet that the kids of the next generation wouldn't be interested in the books if they knew that Harry dies.

News Flash: People keep reading Catcher in the Rye even though they know the ending. Why? BECAUSE ITS A CLASSIC.

Catcher is retarded.

All I can say is that I'm picking it up at midnight. Can't wait.

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:49 am

Rusty wrote:

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote:

Al Capone II wrote:

Rowling might keep Harry alive in order to ensure that her children would continue to have money because I bet that the kids of the next generation wouldn't be interested in the books if they knew that Harry dies.

News Flash: People keep reading Catcher in the Rye even though they know the ending. Why? BECAUSE ITS A CLASSIC.

Catcher is retarded.

No its not! Its a classic! Its an entire book about a guy Rule 6ing about his life! Whats not to love?!?!

Al Capone II · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:51 am

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But that was Dumbledore's assessment. Your conclusion assumes that Dumbledore could not himself be wrong about that. He may be.

Here are some transcripts from Order of the Phoenix that makes my conclusion a bit more believable.

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"The odd thing, Harry', he said softly, 'is that it may not have meant you at all. Sybill's prophecy could have applied to two wizard boys, both born
at the end of July that year, both of whom had parents in the Order, both sets of parents having narrowly escaped Voldemort three times. One, of course, was you. The other was Neville Longbottom.

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'Then - it might not be me?' said Harry.
'I am afraid,' said Dumbledore slowly, looking as though every word cost him a great effort,'there is no doubt that it is you.'

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'Voldemort himself would mark him as his equal'

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And notice this, Harry: he chose, not the pure-blood, but the half-blood, like himself

All of these quotes can be found on p. 742.

Rusty · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:55 am

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote:

Rusty wrote:

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote:

Al Capone II wrote:

Rowling might keep Harry alive in order to ensure that her children would continue to have money because I bet that the kids of the next generation wouldn't be interested in the books if they knew that Harry dies.

News Flash: People keep reading Catcher in the Rye even though they know the ending. Why? BECAUSE ITS A CLASSIC.

Catcher is retarded.

No its not! Its a classic! Its an entire book about a guy Rule 6ing about his life! Whats not to love?!?!

That it's an entire book about a guy Rule 6ing about his life.

bwave · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:07 am

Al Capone II wrote:

Rowling might keep Harry alive in order to ensure that her children would continue to have money because I bet that the kids of the next generation wouldn't be interested in the books if they knew that Harry dies.

I highly doubt it.

The books have sold 325 million copies, plus there was also extram money from the movies, so money is definitely not an issue.

The Noid · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:51 pm

It doesn't matter who the prophecy was referring to though, because as far as ANYONE knows, it was Harry. Voldemort didn't choose Frank's son, Neville, he chose James's son - Harry. Even if it did refer to Neville, it had been made into Harry because of what Voldemort decided for whatever reason he decided to go after a half-blood.

(also, guys, Voldemort'll only die when Wormtail accidentally sets fire to Nagini! Trust me, it'll happen!)

Acekirby · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:14 pm

Didymus wrote:

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First of all, Yoda said that the prophecy might have been misread (which it was)

Actually, no, the prophecy was not misread. Vader DID bring balance to the Force. It was after several years of darkness and the near death of his own son, but it was in fact Vader who did it.

I thought Vader fufilled the prophecy when he became a Sith and eliminated a lot of Jedis. There were not a lot of Sith at all in the first couple of movies, but there are a ton of Jedi. I thought the Force was being tipped to the Light Side and Vader brought balance by having more Dark Side.

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote:

Al Capone II wrote:

Rowling might keep Harry alive in order to ensure that her children would continue to have money because I bet that the kids of the next generation wouldn't be interested in the books if they knew that Harry dies.

News Flash: People keep reading Catcher in the Rye even though they know the ending. Why? BECAUSE ITS A CLASSIC.

I hate Catcher in the Rye.

bwave · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:16 pm

Eh, I actually don't like books. Too depressing.

Harry potter just has more wands, which are supposed to make you happy, but that doesn't work for me. :-|

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:44 pm

Why the heck does everybody hate Catcher in the Rye?!?! Its a Whole book about a guy Bitching! It makes perfect sense! Its something we can all relate to!

Simon Zeno · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:29 pm

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote:

Why the heck does everybody hate Catcher in the Rye?!?! Its a Whole book about a guy Bitching! It makes perfect sense! Its something we can all relate to!

Rule 6 man, rule 6.

Anyway, Harry Potter is mediocre, it was just well-marketed.

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:31 pm

Whatever happened to Charlie bone? Did he kill himself because everyone kept making fun of his name?

Acekirby · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:34 pm

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote:

Why the heck does everybody hate Catcher in the Rye?!?! Its a Whole book about a guy Rule 6ing! It makes perfect sense! Its something we can all relate to!

That's exactly why I hate it.

Though I did like it when Holden got beaten up.

The Noid · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:48 pm

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote:

Whatever happened to Charlie bone? Did he kill himself because everyone kept making fun of his name?

lowel, Charlie Bone. The author can't spell, it's funny. I have like...five of the books.

Homeschool Winner · **Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:54 pm

To properly prepare myself for the 7th book, I have decided to read all six books in order, all in a row. In a span of about two days, I finished the first one and I'm about halfway done with the second.

For some reason, lately, I can't shake the feeling that Dumbledore and Voldemort are somehow the same person. I know it doesn't make sense, BUT WHEN THE SEVENTH BOOK COMES OUT, IF IT'S TRUE, YOU ALL HAVE TO PAYPAL ME A DOLLAR!!!

Sbemailman · **Posted:** Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:44 pm

MOVIE'S OUT!

Duecex2 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:49 pm

We really needed to know that.

The Experimental Film · **Posted:** Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:12 pm

Thought: could the Deathly Hallows possibly refer to the area beyond the veil in the Department of Mysteries?

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