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Since pretty much every state in the union has laws prohibiting polygamy.

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That doesn't answer the question of "Since when is it wrong to love?" Besides, just because laws are in place does not always mean that such laws are moral. Thoreau would agree with me there.

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It seems to me that most sensible people wouldn't consider a three-way relationship exactly what they would call "love."

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So now I'm not sensible because my heart doesn't function with the majority? I wonder...does anything that happens outside of the actions of a majority become "unsensible," just because it's not popular?

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The bible states that one is supposed to follow laws set by those in authority. It gives examples of when to draw the line, but polygamy is morally and legally wrong.

I still don't see how polygamy is morally wrong...sorry. If you're referring to the Bible, let me once again state that I am not Christian, so citing to me Biblical passages is about as effective as telling a blind person that blue is the best color.

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Since when does everyone follow the Bible?

I think polygamy is perfectly fine and should be recognized by law. I'm sure it's possible for someone to be in lvoe with more that one person. I don't think I could ever be, but that doesn't mean no one could or should.

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I disagree. I feel like the laws we have in place are there for a good reason, and I don't think we should just change them. And while it may be possible for someone to be in love with two people, it doesn't mean that it's necessarily a good thing

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I don't see any legal reason behind the laws. They were made primarily out of religious prejudice, I think.

Oh, I don't know, maybe...To protect the rights of women, who tend to be marginalized in polygamistic cultures?

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Would you be singing the same song if we still had restrictions on the rights of, say, women to vote or African Americans to be considered citizens instead of property?



Do people just ignore whatever I say in this thread? I swear that I must have already mentioned this once or twice already in this very thread, about how focusing on the stereotype of one man abusing several women in a polygyny-style relationship just goes to ignore polygamous relationships that are healthy and respectful to all members.

I could just as easily cite the appr. 50% divorce rate among monogamous couples in America today, showing how little couples really seem to cherish one another...but that would only ignore the 50% who are actually doing marriage right. Or at least more right than the divorcees.

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Probably not. In the other two cases, it is clearly that certain people are being deprived of rights offered to others. Last time I checked, polygamy isn't a right being offered to anybody. Factor in that, in my own worldview, while the same God created both men and women and all the different races, he did not create them to be polygamistic, but to be joined together, one man with one woman. To me, outlawing slavery and allowing women's suffrage is entirely moral, but so is prohibiting polygamy.

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But didy who are you to tell everyone who doesn't belive in god to say that god created them and because you believe this they cannot question your moral superiority?

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How about...a called and soon to be ordained servant of God's Holy Word? In other words, it's my job.

And while you guys keep trying to tell me I'm wrong for opposing polygamy, not one of you has given me any substantial reason why I shouldn't, your own personal opinions not withstanding. So I would ask you, who are you to tell me I'm wrong?

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I see that polygamy, like homosexual marriage, is something that would not affect you because you yourself are not polygamistic (nor are you homosexual). In essense, the argument is to allow people who operate differently from you to be legally allowed to do something that you're already legally allowed to do. These people who would do it differently wouldn't impede on your own actions and life, just as if I were to buy a different flavor of ice cream than you wouldn't affect you or your life or your ability to buy the ice cream that you want. Yet you're saying that everyone should only buy the flavor of ice cream that you like.

The bottom line is that we're saying that different people should have the rights to embrace and engage in what makes them different so long as it's not hurting anyone else, whereas you're saying that people should only act and think in a specific way that hinders those specifically different people, thereby hurting them emotionally and psychologically and thusly hindering to some degree their functionality within society and the world.

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So basically, I might as well not show up for my ceremony next week and just go back to selling business machines at Office Depot. Sorry, but the last time I checked, part of my responsibility was to call this lost world to repentance. That means that, in so far as I am able, I will oppose immoral laws, which includes, but is not limited to, discussion on this forum.

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Maybe you should ask God WHY it says polygamy is so wrong. Ask it why it opposes polygamous relationships.

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That would be doubting the word of God...

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Merely because something is not harmful to others does not make it morally right. Many things are immoral because they are harmful to oneself. Those who reject these behaviors do so because they find them to be self-destructive. I haven't the words to offer up a convincing argument against polygamy, but I can see that human nature cannot function properly in that environment. We so often go against our own natures at the call of our desires...

I cannot and would not, had I the choice, stop you from taking such actions. The only self-destructive behavior I'd have the right to prohibit would be suicide, as that cannot be remedied over time. But you must make your own choices, and I can only try to dissuade you from choosing wrongly. I wish you luck with your relationship, should you go through with it. I hope that it succeeds, and I hope that, should it fail, you will gain something from your loss.



The reason people tell you not to do things is out of concern, not egocentrism. The ice cream analogy would more accurately represent the way we see the situation if all the other flavors were poisoned.

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Because he did not create us to be bonding ourselves that way physically, emotionally, and spiritually with more than one person. The two shall become one flesh. It was fallen humanity that decided it was okay to have polygamistic relationships, and in most of the cases I am aware of, it usually resulted in jealousy and strife. Granted, fallen human beings have also tended to make a mess of monogamistic relationships, too.

But at the heart of every human being, I think, there is a desire to be loved by one person, and to be that one person's only true love, such that when that balance is shifted, say, by the introduction of a third partner, it does introduce an element of inequality, which leads to distrust.

I don't know. Maybe with three men, who are pretty much equal in the relationship, it might work differently. But when it is between men and women, it just doesn't seem to work quite right, even when the partners enter into it with the best of intentions.

So why do I think God intended us to be monogamistic? Because I think he wants us to find our physical and emotional fulfillment in one person alone, so that the rest of our attention can be focused on him. But I also think he recognizes that, without some sort of encouragement in place to move us that direction, our fallen human nature will push us into unbalanced, unhealthy relationships.

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For reference, when I say "it's not hurting anyone," I include the person committing the act inside the scope of "anyone." I don't see how polygamy hurts me, either, for practicing it.



That may be, but IMO, if the Bible were really so great, it would offer sound and thorough reasons for every rule and regulation God put down within its texts.

And Didy: I understand that the chance for jealousy rises much higher in a polygamous relationship, and I understand and accept that as a legitimate concern. It's something that many people have to face. Perhaps it's the best argument I can ask from a religious standpoint. I still feel, however, that true polygamous relationships can work when the members involved are mature enough to rise above such petty jealousy. I myself have never been a jealous type, and I would be very wary of anyone who was to be involved in a polygamous relationship. I would myself advise people who are the jealous type to stick to monogamy. I just feel that many of us have matured far more than what the standard of ethics was two thousand years ago.

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PianoMan, let me offer you this. I'm going to tell you my feelings on the suject from my mind and my heart. I'm not going to use my religion.

I adore art. Being a writer, I know what it feels like to use your individuality. It's a very grand feeling. And I support other artists to use their individuality as well.

However, there are times when I can't accept an artist's idea. There are times for me when I feel that there needs to be a limit. A time to stop and say, "I cannot do this." No matter how much I love art. And for your case, love.

I believe that love is a feeling that only a boy and a girl can feel with one another. You have stated that what your doing isn't harmful because it supports love.

I've seen people state things that weren't harmful because of love. My sister and her old boyfriend told me that. They said to me that marriage was something for older people, and that they we're fine without it. They both had a child, which became my nephew. My sister's boyfriend then abandoned her when he was just a few weeks old.

They didn't show very much love.

PianoMan, I'm very sorry. But I have to say this.

What you are doing, in my mind; is indecent, unexplainable, and frightening. Purely frightning.

I cannot accept what you are doing.

Then that is where we disagree. I think it will probably be damaging to you. But I suppose you must discover or disprove it for yourself.

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And I am convinced otherwise. If it were so, then there would be no such things as "Jerry Springer." At best, you might be able to contend that a few - maybe a couple out of millions of people - have reached that point. And if I ever met them, I'd wonder what they were hiding from the rest of us. No, the world I see around me - with all of its self-destructive addictions, heartbreaks, personal conflicts - is even more in need of that 2,000 year-old ethic.

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Fine. Whatever. I'm tired of fighting. You people believe what you want. I guess it doesn't matter to you how many times I say that I'm not like the cases you know or think about when you think of polygamy. Go ahead and stereotype me. Make your image of me fit that pessimistic view you have of the world. I quit. I shouldn't have to validate my feelings and my love to you people...I don't know why I even tried. I'll shut up now.

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PianoMan is right none of you have shown any real reason why polygamy is wrong. As far as I am concerned ther are many more abusive realtionships between one man and one woman than a man and many women or a woman and many men.

As for directly and unquestionally following the bible or any other religious text, that shows no will to think for your self. Authority is meant to be questioned. Ever wonder why our constitution has amendmants?

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And that shows pure ignorance on your part, DUA. How dare you think you have the right to tell me that my faith is unquestioned? Or that I have no ability to think for myself? Just because I have actually done the work and have concluded that there is in fact a higher authority? And yet, at the same time, you expect me to accept what you have to say without question. Honestly, don't you have anything better to do than to spout off this tripe?

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here and here. Both by Didy.

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No I don't really have anythign better to do, that's why I joined this web-forum. And No I don't except you to listen to me. I'm just not-so-humbley stating my opinion. And I wasn't as much referring to your post as Jello B's.

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Actually, that post was sarcasm.

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