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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:59 pm 
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Sorry I took so long to get back to you here. I have a rather cynical view of things: people don't care what happens to them after they die. People like to feel as if they've made a difference, that's why teachers, social workers, etc. exist. You say it's not for the feeling, and I agree. It's for the suprise and contentment of placing a bit of you in someone else. Human beings are strange things: for some reason, they always want themselfves to stay around for a long time. From the first primitive man who hammered a rough carcature of himself on a rock wall, that's what he wanted to do. Maybe that's the meaning of life: to achive superficial immortality.

As for religion: I've been cynical here too. I've always believed the reasons people look for religion is to find something to welcome them in. Their being will welcome them in, but so will the community around you. I never really understood the quest for truth: what use is truth? Will you feel content once you recieve the truth? Or is it more of knowing how to fufil your destiny in life? Learn how to achive your superficial immortality? My philosophy here is something I'd like to change: I can't do anything except be an agnostic if I keep thinking like this.


I doubt that life is about leaving an impression on the world since, no matter what you do, you will eventually be forgotten, seeing as everyone else will die too.

There are many who turn to their religion for comfort and welcoming, but often they seek only that and nothing more meaningful. Usually such people have been brought up or conditioned to believe certain things by traditions and whatnot. Rarely do people 'seek' religion, but rather they seek the truth, and find it in religion.

The use of truth is very hard to express. Like PianoMan said, truth gives us (technological, mental, etc.) power. Though that may not mean enough to pursue it for some. Thinking about it, the only other word that comes to mind is 'purpose'. Finding the truth gives us a purpose in life – and it likely is the purpose for our short stay here on earth.

There is a degree of satisfaction that comes with finding the truth, but it doesn't perfect our lives; I personally am far from satisfied with the world around me or myself. (Sorry if I sound so snobbish, acting as if I'm all enlightened and whatnot, but I truly do think I've found the truth; though I'm only at the very surface of it and have much much farther to delve into it.) While my life is still filled with pain and discontentment, I find that I have purpose, which gives me a foundation, a rock, if you will, to stand on. Which, in its own way, is very comforting.

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Atheists are not particularly under motivated people, and communism failed because it didn't give workers incentives, and relied upon false preconceptions of human virtue (that we don't carry any inherent evil at birth).

Using communism to judge all atheists is like using the Taliban to judge all theists, in that it uses a worst case scenerio to stereotype of massive a group of people.

One of the main things that communism proved, was that (in contradiction to what many missionary atheists believe) atheism has the potential to be just as destructive as any religion. Mind you, in general I think atheism is more peaceful then most religions, because there is no self reinforcing tradition inherent in it, that will produce from it activists.

Christians go to churches. Muslims pray five times a day. But atheists just go about there usual business 24/7. Theres nothing to prevent their beliefs as atheists, from having any effect on their lives whatsoever. They are no more likely to get riled up about atheism, then they are about just about anything.

None of this is course to say that I think Atheism is good (though I am one)...but anyways.


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I'm gonna have to say that the meaning of life really can only be determined by people who have lived their whole lives and died. So, I guess if any of us finds out, we won't be able to tell us about it.

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Revision. The meaning of life is to find the meaning of life. It makes no sense.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! As soon as i saw this "meaning of life" thing i was thinking to myself: "I need to reference Monty Python's Meaning of Life and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy."

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Hrm... meaning of life... I'm going to have to say that the meaning of life is to perpetuate the species...

If you're looking for something deeper than that, well, it's not coming from me.

On the subject of philosophy as a whole, I'd have to say that it's one of the biggest wastes of time ever.


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