Choc-o-lardiac Arrest wrote:
Because the bible contradicts itself
Try starting at the beginning, there Choco. In what way?
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so you could do something in the bible that says its alright, but still end up in hell because of it.
Here's my response to that:
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life (John 3:14-16).
And Peter said to them, "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself" (Acts 2:38-39).
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast (Ephesians 2:8-9).
And he called to him the crowd with his disciples and said to them, "If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake and the gospel's will save it. For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his life? For what can a man give in return for his life? For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him will the Son of Man also be ashamed when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels" (Mark 8:34-38).
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:8-9).
Other than that, I'd suggest reviewing
The Ten Commandments, and maybe studying some of St. Paul's epistles.
The problem with your logic, Choco, is that you're missing the whole point of what grace is: on your own, you can never make yourself good enough for God, but Jesus Christ can. You're never going to be perfect in this life, and he already knows that. This doesn't mean you can just do whatever you want without consequence, but it does mean that, whenever we mess up, we can always turn to him, and he'll forgive us, renew us, and cleanse us from our sins.
But I will say this: That First Commandment is pretty clear. God doesn't tolerate worship of false gods. And why would you want to worship one that was basically made up by some fiction writer anyway?
But I will ask you this: have you been baptized? I think you once told me you had been. If so, then just remember this: he has written his name on you, and you are important to him. Only, do not nullify that covenant relationship by turning away from following him.
As you said, by renouncing him and following a made-up god, at least you know for sure where you are going. But is there really any comfort in that?
But something else I will offer: Martin Luther went through the exact same kind of thinking in his life. Early in his life, he was terrified that, no matter what he did, God was going to send him to hell. But after studying the Bible for years, he finally realized that God was on his side after all, that God did in fact give him the most precious gift of his only begotten Son. Only by turning away from him, and refusing to follow the way of the cross, can you lose out on that gift.
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