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I don't understand your meaning...


I was just saying that just because someone said it didn't make it true.

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Norman Rorqual wrote:
I don't understand your meaning...

18 months, hoo, that's a lot worse than 6. I would think there would be some serious health issues if you laid still all day for 18 months. I thought boot camps were supposed to use exercise and physical labor to get you to change; laying on your face serves no purpose at all except as torture...


It wasn't meant as a boot camp.. It is meant to be a behavior modification program.. The laying on your face is meant to subdue you so that you will be more open to changing your ways... The problem is that they have no idea if you were "bad" before or not... They treat every kid there exactly the same; Some kids were in there merely for having a "bad attitude", or smoking weed once... There were some in there for worse things, but the point is that it did not matter to them...

Laying on your face for 18 months straight is akin to solitary confinement for 18 months (except you usually talk to people intermittently while in OP)... OP, though, is not just for layin on your face...OP is also the room where they beat you... You can hear screaming coming fom that room usually 1-3 times a day... Sometime a day would go by with none, but usually you would hear a friend getting beat; If not a boy, then you would hear it from the girls side...


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OP is also the room where they beat you... You can hear screaming coming fom that room usually 1-3 times a day... Sometime a day would go by with none, but usually you would hear a friend getting beat; If not a boy, then you would hear it from the girls side...


Didn't anyone ever fight back? Wasn't there anyone ever sent there with enough resolve to just kick the guards' butts for trying to beat them? I know I would--I would never go down without a fight. I'd murder them if I had to. In fact, ever since I found out about this place, I've thought up schemes (as morbid as it may be) to organize a group of people to go there and kill every last person working there and to liberate the children.

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Well, here's the thing...
First, there are a lot of staff, and they are backed by local authorities... There was a riot there, but it was subdued... A few kids tried to fight back individually, but you quickly learn that is the worst thing you can do... They will swarm you, and you will get a very severe punishment (arm dislocated etc...)... Your only hope is to just shutup and wait it out... Its horrible, and the hoplessness of the situation get to everyone eventually... You just feel so damn hopeless...
Second... Most of the staff are good local people... They obey the rules, and a few of them even disagreed with the beatings (they got fired)... They just do what they're told... They are not necessarily bad people... They just needed jobs...
Jay Kay is the guy who runs the place... He's the bastard... and his wife


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Wow. This place is awful. The worst thing is, after the six months they are there, and they call their parents to say how awful it is, and they won't belive them, because their kind is "messed up." Guh. Just guh. Thats awful.

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 Post subject: Re: Tranquility Bay (Because Parents are ALWAYS Right...)
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In my opinion, the single worst crime in all the history of humanity is to steal away somebody else's right to individual thought.


Then I guess you aren't in the Navy or Marines ;)
But yeah, I agree. The military is often a place where troubled people go to get straightened up, learn more about the world, and just try to be better. They 'brainwash' more for common-goal purposes. This just reminds me of 1984. Well, not that extreme. But yeah.

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Then I guess you aren't in the Navy or Marines Winky
But yeah, I agree. The military is often a place where troubled people go to get straightened up, learn more about the world, and just try to be better. They 'brainwash' more for common-goal purposes. This just reminds me of 1984. Well, not that extreme. But yeah.


Comparing the training of US soldiers to 1984.

Wow. :eek:

Oh, and on topic, yes this place sucks. While I agree that there are kids that need to learn discipline, this is not the right way to do it.


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 Post subject: Re: Tranquility Bay (Because Parents are ALWAYS Right...)
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This... Disgusts me. Outrages me. And, above all, scares me out of my mind - If a place like this is allowed to stay, will that mean camps and the like for unruly adults and even young children come to exist? Will they be like this? Will this mindless torture and theft of independence of body and mind even become standard? Is this the future?

I'm scared... :((

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