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Author:  Joshua [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:10 pm ]
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Capt. Ido Nos wrote:
Blue = Zelda?

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Ehhhh, I'm more one to say that it's Zero-Suit Samus. Nintendo's really in love with her at the moment, I would *not* be surprised if this was the case. I know that Zelda was the female wireframe last time, but still.


Nintendo's in love with Zero Suit Samus? I haven't seen her getting any special treatment or anything. She doesn't even get to be a full character as far as we know. :-|

Nevertheless it's impossible to tell from just one screenshot. If you ask me, it looks more like a Zelda pose than a ZSS one, just by the way they generally move, but we definitely can't be sure until we see her in action.
Author:  extremejon09 [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Super Smash Bros. Brawl Discussion
Ein Dose wrote:
So we're thinking a child. With horns.


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Author:  Spyrox6 [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:21 pm ]
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New Alloy's eh? Replacing those wireframes, I see. I like how there's a variety in them, rather than the 2 Male and Female wireframes. Now there's a difference in the shape, size and color? Neat. Do they fight differently? It'd be pretty cool if they did.

I'm not exactly sure if the Alloys are based off of a character. Seems entirely plausible. The Green one looks like Kirby. But I'm sure about the others. I'm actually really hoping they all are based of a character, because at least one of them could be a new character. Is the red one Captain Falcon? I hope so. He was actually quite a favorite of mine.

Speaking of the Wireframes, I remember how I beat the 100 man melee in Smash Bros Melee. It was actually kind of cheap. I got Donkey Kong and repeatedly used down B making DK consistently smash the ground, while the wireframes just walked into a 1 Hit KO.
Author:  DS_Kid [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:11 pm ]
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As cool as those Alloys look, I hope for more of them; I'd hope that there'd be as many variations as the Fighting Polygon Team in Smash Bros. 64. I ALWAYS WANT MORE!

extremejon09 wrote:
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YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

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YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
Author:  Positron [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:25 pm ]
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Joshua wrote:
Green = Kirby.
Spyrox6 wrote:
Green one looks like Kirby.
Does anyone besides me read image captions?
The Dojo wrote:
Green Alloy! It may look like Kirby, but it’s not him!
Author:  extremejon09 [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:30 pm ]
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I can't believe you need that caption to tell you that's not Kirby.

Did you even look at the pictures? Or the article?
Author:  Capt. Ido Nos [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:31 pm ]
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Well, duh it's *not* kirby, but with the japanman, you never really know what he means when he actually talks. For all we know, that could range from anywhere between "This is a short, stumpy character and that is as far as the resemblances go" to "It's a straight up green clone of kirby". We'll just have to wait and see what happens.
Author:  Ju Ju Master [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:34 pm ]
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Well, some of the captions imply that the alloys are character

"Red Alloy! He’s not the leader or anything!"
Leader = Captain? Could easily be Falcon.

So he might just be joking with that last one.

Though I actually think that they aren't based off characters. I think I'd rather them not be, they're cool being unique.
Author:  extremejon09 [ Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:37 pm ]
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It's a clone of Falcon.

I saw a picture that showed those screenshots next to screenshots of Falcon making the exact same movements.

Forgot to save it, though.
Author:  Joshua [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:09 am ]
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Positron wrote:
Joshua wrote:
Green = Kirby.
Spyrox6 wrote:
Green one looks like Kirby.
Does anyone besides me read image captions?
The Dojo wrote:
Green Alloy! It may look like Kirby, but it’s not him!


Well, duh, of course it isn't Kirby. It's obviously the Green Alloy Fighter. But I was talking about who his moveset and build were based off of, like how the male and female wire frames were based off of Captain Falcon and Zelda, and how all the polygon guys before that had a corresponding character.

Also, my evidence as to why I think the yellow guy is Mario.

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And I agree that it would've been sweet if there were guys like this for every character like in the first game, it would've really added some variety to the madness. Oh well, these four aren't bad and should make things more interesting than the two from Melee. Plus I'm pretty sure the co-op will open up the game mode more than anything else, should be much more fun fighting an unstoppable army side-by-side with a friend.
Author:  DumDeDum [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:07 am ]
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WARNING: CHALLENGER APPROACHING

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This addition makes me want Brawl even more. I like the Pikmin games a lot.
Author:  just a username [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:18 am ]
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Wow, they found a way to make Olimar playable in brawl.
*claps to Sakurai*
Author:  Ein Dose [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:21 am ]
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I love Pikmin, so yeah, I'm happy. My friend'll be over the moon since it's about his favorite Gamecube game.

Sorry, Ice Climbers. You've been relegated to the third most unique playing character.
Author:  extremejon09 [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:58 pm ]
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Someone on 2chan says that he's on the inside and posted this character list.

I'd like to believe it.

Quote:

Initial Roster
- Mario
- Bowser
- Peach
- Wario
- Yoshi
- Link
- Zelda
- Pikachu
- Pokemon Trainer
- Samus
- Kirby
- King Dedede
- Meta Knight
- Fox
- Pit
- Ike
- Donkey Kong
- Diddy Kong
- Captain Falcon
- Ice Climbers
- Lucas
- Pikmin & Olimar
- Sonic
- Snake

As you can see from the above list, Captain Falcon is the only character that is not shown on the website yet and every character shown is default. Zero Suit Samus is first only playable when using Samus Final Smash, but can later be unlocked to be played at any time.


Quote:
Unlockables:
The below list is a list of all characters that must be unlocked, this is the final roster, and we are sorry if your favorite character did not make the cut.

- Luigi
- Bowser Jr./Shadow Mario (Changes like Zelda in SSBM)
- Baby Mario & Luigi
- Geno
- Young Link (Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass version, is not a clone of default Link)
- Wolf Link & Midna
- Ganondorf (Has own moveset, is not a clone)
- Shiek (Seperate character from Zelda)
- Vaati
- Mewtwo
- Pokemon Rival (Turtwig, Croconaw and Blaziken)
- Lucario
- Jigglypuff
- Zero Suit Samus (Unlocked to be selected apart from Samus)
- Ridley
- Falco (Has own moveset, is not a clone)
- Krystal
- Ness (Has own moveset, is not a clone)
- Animal Crosser
- Marth
- Roy
- K.Rool
- Black Shadow
- Sukapon
- Mr. Game & Watch
- Takamaru
- Ray 01
- Andy
- Mii (Looks like your Mii! Weight and size differ, but attacks are always same)
Author:  Ein Dose [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:45 pm ]
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Yeah, those 'unlockables' prove this wrong. Allow me to explain. I will not be hiding these because they are hardly spoilers as none of them will appear.

GENO would have already been confirmed. Additionally, why would this one third party character be unlockable, whilst the other two be default?
THE BABIES/BOWSER JR. have no combat expertise.
CEL-SHADED LINK (Young Link) is wishful thinking, nothing more. You can do very little to vary Link without just using different items. As it stands Link is already using his iconic weaponry.
WOLF LINK & MIDNA do not have enough varied attacks to be their own character.
VAATI, RIDLEY, AND KING K. ROOL are boss characters and cannot be toned down enough to fight fairly. This does not count them out of NPC apperances in the Subspace Emissary though, however I doubt K. Rool or Vaati will be there.
THE RIVAL is a repaint of the Pokemon Trainer. While it'd be pretty nice, he also couldn't represent anything accurately. He's using 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation Pokemon, however who's the first guy we think of for the rival? Generation 1's Green/Blue/Gary. Who, thanks to my research, doesn't have any of the listed Pokemon in the games, anime or manga.
LUCARIO shares the same basics as Mewtwo. The only way he could come out is as a clone of Mewtwo, or replacing him entirely.
THE ANIMAL CROSSER is a fan-name in the first place. Additionally, he's hardly combat-able. He has blunt weapons and that's about it. He can fight as well as Homestar.
BLACK SHADOW I can't comment on as when I went on a Google search for it, it came up with at least three video games, none of them remotely possible (Shadow the Hedgehog, Portal and LOTRO, if you're curious - and before you say anything, I played Shadow the Hedgehog and there is no 'Black Shadow').
SUKAPON is another obscure one - reportedly from an NES game in 1993. I can't say anything, but I'm thinking he's too obscure.
TAKAMARU beats out Sukapon - an obscure standalone NES game only released in Japan to limited success. Too obscure.
RAY 01 comes up empty. Reaching heavily, I can only think they're referring to Metal Gear Ray. To which I say: Hahahah, no.
ANDY also comes up empty. No cigar, I can't even reach here.
MIIS can't be due to the fact that they are (apparently - I don't see it) human. Nothing more. They cannot fight. The best they could have been is the Fighting Horde for Brawl which belongs rightfully to the Alloys.
Author:  Joshua [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:25 pm ]
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While most of Ein Dose's "deconfirmation reasons" are pretty crappy, I can assure you that that list is just one of hundreds of crappy fanlists from random people on the Internet who claim to have "insider information". In fact, that's one of the most unbelievable and over the top character lists out there. I would strongly recommend not believing anything that doesn't come from official sources so you don't look like a fool. :eekdance:

But who cares? Captain Olimar is playable! GLEE!
Author:  extremejon09 [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:38 pm ]
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Wow Ein Dose.

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All of those reasons are awful, poorly thought out responses. I mean wow, half of them can be easily applied to characters that are confirmed.
-Why wouldn't geno be a hidden character? Haven't you ever played Smash Bros. Before?
-No combat experience? Have you seriously not played any mario game lately? Game and -Watch, Captain Falcon, and Zelda have had been in far few battle than them.

-Wolf link doesn't have enough attacks? They sure seemed able to think up more than enough moves for Captain Falcon
-Wow who cares if Gary didn't have all those pokemon in the manga. Mario and Sonic are in the same game, that never happened in the mangas either.
-Lucario is a fighting type.
-HOW IS AN AXE BLUNT. DURR
-Play f-zero or learn to google
-You never heard of it because you're not japanese.
-Play custom robo or learn to use google.
-Play Advance Wars
-If humans can't fight, explain half the Roster.

And You should feel awful for never Playing Custom Robo, Advance wars, F-zero, or Animal Crossing. And of of course those few seem obscure to you, they were never released in America.


Speaking of which, Brawl is out in 2 weeks in Japan. 2chan is a japanese message board. Heck, the Halo 3 ending was put on youtube awhile before the game even came out. It's extremely likely that's legit.

Lastly, I put them you spoiler quotes for a reason, so it wouldn't ruin it for anyone else. Color the text white and put your awful post in a quote box.
Author:  Cleverdan [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:52 pm ]
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Holy crap Olimar.
Author:  Chekt [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:57 pm ]
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Sounds utterly, and completely horrible.
But I need more information so I can justly say how bad he is.
Author:  ChickenLeg [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:32 pm ]
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I definitely agree with Ein Dose on that one list, mainly because K. Rool may be property of Rare. We haven't seen him since 1999. And since Rare is now second party to Nintendo ONLY in handhelds, I highly doubt K. Rool would be in the game.
Author:  Dark Grapefruit [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:33 pm ]
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K. Rool belongs to Nintendo as much as Diddy Kong now, as well as all characters Rare made for Donkey Kong and Starfox games.

However, I believe that list is crap for one reason: Geno. Geno is always put on every fake list just to make fans go "omg". But, he is property of Square and I really don't think we're getting anymore third party characters. And even if Square did want to throw a character in, why not one of their iconic ones, like Cloud?
Author:  extremejon09 [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:40 pm ]
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ChickenLeg wrote:
I definitely agree with Ein Dose on that one list, mainly because K. Rool may be property of Rare. We haven't seen him since 1999. And since Rare is now second party to Nintendo ONLY in handhelds, I highly doubt K. Rool would be in the game.


DK Jungle Climber, September 2007

Guess again.
Author:  The Experimental Film [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:28 pm ]
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I thought Olimar was like an inch tall.
Author:  Capt. Ido Nos [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:39 pm ]
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Steroids man, steroids.
Author:  Joshua [ Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:51 pm ]
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extremejon09 wrote:
Speaking of which, Brawl is out in 2 weeks in Japan. 2chan is a japanese message board. Heck, the Halo 3 ending was put on youtube awhile before the game even came out. It's extremely likely that's legit.


Fifty-three characters? Fifty-three?! Are you serious?

Just because we're closer to the release doesn't make this list any more believable than the two dozen "full roster leaks" we've had before. People can make up crap just as well now and they could then. And I can assure you they will.
Author:  homestar55 [ Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:20 am ]
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DumDeDum wrote:
WARNING: CHALLENGER APPROACHING

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This addition makes me want Brawl even more. I like the Pikmin games a lot.
(beaths in) yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa *cough* *cough* aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
Author:  JTHomeslice [ Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:50 am ]
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Joshua wrote:
extremejon09 wrote:
Speaking of which, Brawl is out in 2 weeks in Japan. 2chan is a japanese message board. Heck, the Halo 3 ending was put on youtube awhile before the game even came out. It's extremely likely that's legit.


Fifty-three characters? Fifty-three?! Are you serious?

Marvel vs. Capcom 2 has 55 playable characters.
Author:  extremejon09 [ Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:57 am ]
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And the Dragonball Z fighting games had a character list bigger than a Xbox

And ain't nothing bigger than a Xbox.
Author:  ramrod [ Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:08 am ]
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Dark Grapefruit wrote:
And even if Square did want to throw a character in, why not one of their iconic ones, like Cloud?

Was Cloud even on any Nintendo games?
Author:  extremejon09 [ Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:10 am ]
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Hey ramrod I think you mean systems.
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