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Author:  Didymus [ Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:00 pm ]
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Ah, I see. The consumerist "individual" is ultimately the one who follows the herd most closely. The one who tries to establish their own identity, their own "individuality" by embracing all the trends, and in the process, loses the very thing they try to build up.

Compare to this, the "true" individual, the one who refuses to follow trends, who goes out of their way to avoid the herd. There are two possible fates for such a one: to be an outcast or a trend-setter.

Oh, and let's not forget, rebelling against the trends is often a trend in itself. So the trap is often sprung even by those who claim to walk their own path.

The only true individuals are those who are so completely unmindful of trends and fads, they care not whether they follow them. Such a person neither rebels against the trends and fads, nor embraces them. Such a person does what they like, regardless of how others might perceive them, even when someone might accuse them of being a follower. Because, in the end, they know it doesn't matter.
Author:  Rusty [ Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:00 pm ]
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You guys are younger than me. And...yeah, what I think is just a phase, and soon, I'll become the beer swilling, football-watchin' American that I really am inside!

Yeah, okay.

EDIT: The fact is I don't follow trends and I don't intend to make them. If people decide to do what I do because I'm doing it, their loss. But I don't care if I'm an outcast or whatever, I just can't stand people who don't choose to have individual ideas. Which leads back to religion, but that's a whole other thing I don't wanna get into. That last paragraph would describe me more accurately, I think.
Author:  Didymus [ Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:02 pm ]
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And just what is wrong with beer?

Well, if we're talking about weak American consumer barley water, then I see your point. But don't you be dissing my Boddington's Pub Ale.
Author:  AbuGrape45 [ Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:03 pm ]
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Yep, okay. In good time.

EDIT: Rusty, this was intended for you.
Author:  Rusty [ Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:03 pm ]
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Oh. I was just using an example. I don't really have anything against alcohol. If you wanna drink it, that's your decision.

And Abu...wow, yeah, exactly what I mean. Can't stand that someone thinks something besides what you think is "normal"? That's a huge problem.
Author:  Didymus [ Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:05 pm ]
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Which leads back to religion, but that's a whole other thing I don't wanna get into.

Except that people who follow a religion should not do so because it is trendy, but based on whether its claims are true. It is a topic I am more than willing to discuss in the right context - namely the R & P board.
Author:  ed 'lim' smilde [ Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:07 pm ]
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Which leads back to religion, but that's a whole other thing I don't wanna get into.
I thought you were talking about America...?
Author:  AbuGrape45 [ Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:08 pm ]
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Rusty wrote:
Oh. I was just using an example. I don't really have anything against alcohol. If you wanna drink it, that's your decision.

And Abu...wow, yeah, exactly what I mean. Can't stand that someone thinks something besides what you think is "normal"? That's a huge problem.

That wasn't even close to being accurate. People that hate the U.S have become the norm, so you, Rusty, are the one that's thinking the same as everyone else. That's what disgusts my about it.
Author:  Rusty [ Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:10 pm ]
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Well, if people would pick and choose things about a certain religion to believe, and not just follow the whole thing just because it's what they've chosen to follow, fine. If that "pick and choose" includes the whole thing, that's fine as well.

But there are people out there (I know, trust me. I've been around) who just follow it and can't think for themselves. Which just sucks.

EDIT: ....I don't know why I'm still giving you responses, abu. Didn't I just say that I'm against following trends, doing things because everyone else does? If my beliefs coincide with someone else's based on coincidence, then that's just going to happen, there's a lot of people in this world. But I don't think it just because other people think it. I've said that by observing other people, I've made decisions for myself.

So, sorry if I'm insulting your precious America, but it's just what I think. I'm not thinking it because anyone else does, and if someone else thinks it? Well, that's them.
Author:  AbuGrape45 [ Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:12 pm ]
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Well, yeah, that does suck. But that's not really the point.

EDIT: These decisions you've made for yourself have coincided with everyone else's. That means you're following a trend.
Author:  ed 'lim' smilde [ Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:12 pm ]
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Rusty wrote:
But there are people out there (I know, trust me. I've been around) who just follow it and can't think for themselves. Which just sucks.
The same go for some people who don't follow it too... Sorry, I know that wasn't your point, but I don't like it when people blame problems on religion just because they exist in religion.
Author:  Rusty [ Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:14 pm ]
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Yeah, but you're still grouping people. Not everyone who doesn't follow religion is a follower, there are those who choose to follow it because they don't want to. That was ignorant, ed.

EDIT: But that's not what I'm doing.
Author:  IantheGecko [ Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:23 pm ]
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Guys, if you're going to talk about religion, please go to R&P. That's what it's for, y'know?
Author:  this-guy [ Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:28 pm ]
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2007.
Author:  AbuGrape45 [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:29 am ]
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2006.
Author:  Mikes! [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:29 am ]
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Didymus wrote:
The utterly fascinating thing for me is how many people on this particular forum claim to hate 4chan, but then go around quoting every 4chan meme there's ever been. Now that makes no sense to me.
I've never quoted anything from 4chan, I think...

Also, I can't stand the word, "meme." Like, I get and appreciate the concept of memetics, but "meme" is a Funk stupid sounding word.
Author:  AbuGrape45 [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:37 am ]
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I'd like to add to my list of things I hate that everyone else likes:

My freaking computer. Everyone who's been in the part of my house containing this thing seems to love it. I personally despise it because of the fact that I have 30 anti-virus notices to close every time I turn it on.

They're not even real anti-virus programs, to make things worse. They're all fake companies like WinAnonymous and stupid crap like that.
Author:  The Great Clapper [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:42 am ]
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Heroes!

Ooh, and Spongebob Squarepants.

Dunno, both concepts of the show don't appeal to me.
Author:  ed 'lim' smilde [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:57 am ]
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Rusty wrote:
Not everyone who doesn't follow religion is a follower, there are those who choose to follow it because they don't want to. That was ignorant, ed.
I only said "some people", just as you only said "some people". But whatever. I don't really want to start drama again.
AbuGrape45 wrote:
They're not even real anti-virus programs, to make things worse. They're all fake companies like WinAnonymous and stupid crap like that.
That's... definitely very bad. You should definitely try to get rid of that with HijackThis and those other good anti-spyware programs.
Author:  AbuGrape45 [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:12 am ]
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Yeah, I just ordered a Symantec program. It should take care of these problems.
Author:  Schmelen [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:17 am ]
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Rusty wrote:
Schmelen wrote:
No... I think most of them are just looking for something to hate.


Ha ha, so easy to dismiss my dislike for my own country as me looking for something to hate? No, I just don't like the place. It's a country of followers, slaves to any sort of mindset, who can't think for themselves. Now that's not to say that no other country does it, but America is probably the biggest problem.


I was talking mostly about people I know from school who don't actually know much about the country.
Author:  Larson [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:39 am ]
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they're all sheep, hating America because it's cool.
maybe if I knew about George Bush, it'd hate him, but all I know is he's president. you're not. suck it.
*wraps self in absestos*
Author:  WonderMike [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:52 pm ]
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Whoppers from BK.
Author:  HHFOV [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:50 pm ]
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Larson wrote:
they're all sheep, hating America because it's cool.
maybe if I knew about George Bush, it'd hate him, but all I know is he's president. you're not. suck it.
*wraps self in absestos*
I appreciate that you can be from somewhere besides America and still realize this.

Now, Rusty, on the other hand...

Oh, also, I hate drawing. Everybody else seems to be able to excel at it in comparison, but it really doesn't appeal to me, nor is it one of my strengths...
Author:  Mikes! [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:44 pm ]
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Larson wrote:
but all I know is he's president. you're not. suck it.
Right, but in what should be a democratic environment, it's the citizens of a country who have final say, not the person they elected to do the dirty laundry.
Author:  Potates [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:47 pm ]
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Larson wrote:
*wraps self in absestos*


Enjoy your lung cancer. :mrgreen:
Author:  Rusty [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:05 pm ]
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Schmelen wrote:
I was talking mostly about people I know from school who don't actually know much about the country.


Oh oh. My bad.

EDIT: HHFOV, I think I've said several times that I hail from Los Angeles.
Author:  HHFOV [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:09 pm ]
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I know. My comment was sort of worded improperly, but to you I was just referring to dislike of the U.S. in general.
Author:  Rusty [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:48 pm ]
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Yeah, since it's immature to think that, or whatever.
Author:  ed 'lim' smilde [ Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:34 pm ]
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Mikes! wrote:
Right, but in what should be a democratic environment, it's the citizens of a country who have final say, not the person they elected to do the dirty laundry.
You don't elect a president to do dirty laundry, you elect him to make decisions and lead the country. If the president makes bad decisions, it's the peoples' fault for voting for him.
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