That's just not right.
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Mon May 29, 2006 11:18 pm ] |
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I know that I'm usually first to come out in support of authoruty, but this, most certainly, is not one of them. There's nothing wrong with preserving class and dignity at a graduation, but thisis just retarded. How dare graduates throw their hats into the air, dance, or wear sunglasses! |
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| Author: | Ju Ju Master [ Mon May 29, 2006 11:28 pm ] |
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This is just sad. That's really all I can say. |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Mon May 29, 2006 11:30 pm ] |
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What some jerks? |
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| Author: | Marshmallow Roast [ Mon May 29, 2006 11:41 pm ] |
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I'm going to say that those are the kinds of people that really set me off. The super-conservative people who try to stifle all forms of individuality and defiance of the extremely trivial rules they set. I'm going to walk around with a scowl for a while, now, having read that. Those moronic jerkholes. |
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| Author: | Acekirby [ Mon May 29, 2006 11:43 pm ] |
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Wow, just wow. They banned hat-throwing at my High School, too. I don't know if one of the Seniors went ahead and threw his hat, but... That's seriously lame. Punishing someone for wearing sunglasses and another for dancing? Stupid. StrongRad wrote: There's nothing wrong with preserving class and dignity at a graduation,
Didn't you "trade" a fork for your diploma? |
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| Author: | lahimatoa [ Mon May 29, 2006 11:45 pm ] |
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And on the other side of the equation... It's one thing to disagree with someone's politics, but another entirely to behave in this way. |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Mon May 29, 2006 11:56 pm ] |
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Acekirby wrote: StrongRad wrote: There's nothing wrong with preserving class and dignity at a graduation, Didn't you "trade" a fork for your diploma? yes... It was all in fun and didn't create a scene.. |
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| Author: | Acekirby [ Tue May 30, 2006 12:23 am ] |
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StrongRad wrote: Acekirby wrote: StrongRad wrote: There's nothing wrong with preserving class and dignity at a graduation, Didn't you "trade" a fork for your diploma? yes... It was all in fun and didn't create a scene.. Well, so was this, but these people are being punished for something that I believe is not as bad. |
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| Author: | PianoManGidley [ Tue May 30, 2006 12:34 am ] |
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I agree that those things were trivial matters...though I recall at my older sister's high school graduation one student being escorted off the premises by policemen after grabbing the mic from the name announcer when he went up to accept his diploma to try to say a thank you to his friends and family. It is nice to want to thank your friends and family, but doing it in such a way was uncalled for--it was impolite and disrespectful to the faculty, staff, organizers of the event, other students graduating, etc. |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Tue May 30, 2006 12:38 am ] |
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Acekirby wrote: StrongRad wrote: Acekirby wrote: StrongRad wrote: There's nothing wrong with preserving class and dignity at a graduation, Didn't you "trade" a fork for your diploma? yes... It was all in fun and didn't create a scene.. Well, so was this, but these people are being punished for something that I believe is not as bad. My point EXACTLY! I'm totally against most lawsuits, but, in this case, I believe that the parents of the students involved should sue the school. This is retarded. Gidley, what the people you're talking about did was rude and disrespectful, but I think the police escorting them out of the building is a little harsh. Graduation is a night that belongs to the graduates. I see no harm in a little fun. |
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| Author: | PianoManGidley [ Tue May 30, 2006 12:50 am ] |
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StrongRad wrote: Gidley, what the people you're talking about did was rude and disrespectful, but I think the police escorting them out of the building is a little harsh. Graduation is a night that belongs to the graduates.
I see no harm in a little fun. Yeah, but the school I went to had a student body of about 4,400--my graduating class was 917--and the school district has a mix of socio-economic classes, meaning that there are too many students there (including the guy that grabbed the mic) that try to act all "ghetto fabulous" (as much of an oxymoron as that is). |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Tue May 30, 2006 12:53 am ] |
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PianoManGidley wrote: StrongRad wrote: Gidley, what the people you're talking about did was rude and disrespectful, but I think the police escorting them out of the building is a little harsh. Graduation is a night that belongs to the graduates. I see no harm in a little fun. Yeah, but the school I went to had a student body of about 4,400--my graduating class was 917--and the school district has a mix of socio-economic classes, meaning that there are too many students there (including the guy that grabbed the mic) that try to act all "ghetto fabulous" (as much of an oxymoron as that is). I kinda get it. I still don't like this idea of "everything has to be done with military precision at graduation". Disrupting the ceremony is one thing, but I don't see anything wrong with wearing sunglasses or dancing. They tried to get onto me for wearing shorts (keep in mind that the only way they found out is that they checked). Nobody else woulda known (I had on cowboy boots, don't ask, so even if my gown woulda come up everyone woulda just seen my boots). |
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| Author: | Capt. Ido Nos [ Tue May 30, 2006 12:53 am ] |
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Hmm, I don't know what to think of this. I see where the adults are coming from, trying to keep the solemnity, but it is a celebration as well, and I think it's safe to say that most graduates are closer to esctatic than strongsad solemn. I think small, not really disruptive things are often what ends up being remembered at those things. Heh, this does bring back a story my mom told me of when she graduated. everyone in her class brought a single marble, and as they shook the guy's hand and got their diploma, they handed it to him. Five hundred kids later... |
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| Author: | Alexander [ Tue May 30, 2006 3:13 am ] |
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That's absolutly hurtful and terrible. I myself am very serious in most matters, and I rarely use humorous things in my life. But even I can have a little sillyness once in a while. I completely agree for a lawsuit to the school. |
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| Author: | Einoo T. Spork [ Tue May 30, 2006 3:18 am ] |
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That's just not right.
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| Author: | What's Her Face [ Tue May 30, 2006 1:34 pm ] |
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Meh, I have limited sympathy for these kids, I must say, especially that dancing one. They're supposed to be venturing into the adult world now, so they should know how to behave at formal occasions. But maybe the punishment was a bit much. |
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| Author: | Stu [ Tue May 30, 2006 2:27 pm ] |
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I had something witty (and pithy) to say, but then an image of StrongRad wearing a graduation gown, shorts, cowboy boots, and sunglasses (I know you didn't have sunglasses, but this is my imagination here). I don't know if I will be able to do anything productive for the rest of the day... 
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Tue May 30, 2006 3:37 pm ] |
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What's Her Face wrote: Meh, I have limited sympathy for these kids, I must say, especially that dancing one. They're supposed to be venturing into the adult world now, so they should know how to behave at formal occasions. But maybe the punishment was a bit much. That is very true, adults SHOULD know how to behave at formal functions. Of course, I never really think of graduation as a formal event. Any thoughts I had of that disappeared with the graduating class that left my sophomore year of high school. They had that ceremony outside and people were there in lawn chairs, guys in the crowd were shirtless, women had on bathing suit tops, etc.. Thank God it rained the next year (so they moved it inside) and then condemmed the stadium and tore it down the year I graduated (so it had to be inside again).
and Stu, the boots were sort of a bet/dare. I'd worn them for some sort of Western Day or something like that earlier in the year and was told I wouldn't wear them to graduation. The shorts (decent, Khaki shorts, not denim, daisy duke cut-offs) were more of a comfort thing (it was something like 85 in the gym, and the girls could wear skirts, why couldn't guys wear shorts?!?) |
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| Author: | ModestlyHotGirl [ Tue May 30, 2006 3:39 pm ] |
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Wow, that's pretty ridiculous. I know I was happy when I graduated, and I see nothing wrong with acting a little goofy. I guess our ceremony was a little untraditional, though. Our valedictorian was this punk rock kid who made a tear-jerking speech then busted out an acoustic guitar and sang a song. And as for the hat-throwing thing, isn't that kind of a tradition in itself? American movies would have me think so. 
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| Author: | Didymus [ Tue May 30, 2006 4:04 pm ] |
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I think they're claiming he threw his hat when he was accepting his diploma, not at the traditional time at the end of the ceremony. |
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| Author: | ModestlyHotGirl [ Tue May 30, 2006 4:08 pm ] |
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Didymus wrote: I think they're claiming he threw his hat when he was accepting his diploma, not at the traditional time at the end of the ceremony.
Oh. Well, that's still silly, I think. 
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| Author: | ed 'lim' smilde [ Tue May 30, 2006 4:35 pm ] |
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This would really stink. Our principal is pretty strict at graduation since it is the most public event our school has. He hasn't banned hat-throwing yet; my goal is to try and get it into the upper deck of the balcony. |
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| Author: | racerx_is_alive [ Tue May 30, 2006 6:24 pm ] |
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Didymus wrote: I think they're claiming he threw his hat when he was accepting his diploma, not at the traditional time at the end of the ceremony.
To me, it sounded like it was at the end, because the the video where it supposedly shows he threw his hat was at a wide angle of the crowd, grainy, and difficult to determine faces. Both he and his mother claim he didn't throw his hat at all. The one I found most preposterous was the kind who danced across the stage. I wonder what they would have done had someone done a backflip off of the stage afterwards. I noticed the principal enacted and enforced these rules because of the "chaos" from the year before. I'd like to have seen what was going on there that made him so uptight. |
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| Author: | Rogue Leader [ Tue May 30, 2006 7:37 pm ] |
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Heh, how sad. Sorta reminds me of what I read in the Denver Post a few days back. http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_3673336 Schools are getting way to strict. So what if someone threw a hat, or, *gasp*, wore sunglasses? And we can't have dancing, oh no. Gah, these people take the fun out of graduation and just make it another day of school. Sorry if I sound a bit too angry. I just got out of 90-100 degree classrooms. |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Tue May 30, 2006 9:03 pm ] |
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racerx_is_alive wrote: I noticed the principal enacted and enforced these rules because of the "chaos" from the year before. I'd like to have seen what was going on there that made him so uptight.
I'm trying to find out. Maybe someone wrote on their hat or *gasp* hugged their mother. You'd think it'd be easy to find that stuff out, being that I'm in the city where this happened, but it's not, for some reason. |
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| Author: | ramrod [ Wed May 31, 2006 12:04 am ] |
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Wow, even my highschool, as strict as it was, didn't do anything like this. But then again, my highschool wasn't exactly filled with the brightest staff. Knowing them, they would have tried to give the 'offenders' a Detention. |
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| Author: | Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Wed May 31, 2006 12:50 am ] |
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StrongRad wrote: and Stu, the boots were sort of a bet/dare. I'd worn them for some sort of Western Day or something like that earlier in the year and was told I wouldn't wear them to graduation. The shorts (decent, Khaki shorts, not denim, daisy duke cut-offs) were more of a comfort thing (it was something like 85 in the gym, and the girls could wear skirts, why couldn't guys wear shorts?!?) What about the fork? I didn't hear that story. ModestlyHotGirl wrote: Wow, that's pretty ridiculous. I know I was happy when I graduated, and I see nothing wrong with acting a little goofy. I guess our ceremony was a little untraditional, though. Our valedictorian was this punk rock kid who made a tear-jerking speech then busted out an acoustic guitar and sang a song.
That is SO awesome. |
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| Author: | DarkSideOfTheSchwartz [ Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:29 am ] |
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that has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Graduation is a time to celebrate making it through 4 long years of school, and going out to get a career in the adult world. This punishment takes it too far. Are we no longer allowed to express our happiness. Thats just like taking away the privilage to TELL WHAT U THINK. |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:34 am ] |
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I think you've hit the key point there, Gen. Schwartzkof. Whatever else it may be, Graduation is a time of joy, not for dire-face solemnity. It's not a freaking funeral, for goodness sake! While some decor is in order, it is entirely unreasonable to expect that, on such a joyous occasion, that there would be no frivolity. |
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| Author: | DarkSideOfTheSchwartz [ Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:41 am ] |
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It seems like nowadays we can't do what we want. It seems like the governmet's policy is, if it's fun, outlaw it. |
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