Ibut if an animal product is obtained without contributing money (ie, stealing) it's all fine and dandy to use it.

Oh, yeah, that's gonna do wonders for vegetarianism and veganism's public image..

Er.. anyway, you seem to have misinterpreted your own ideology. According to the Wikipedia, most "freegans" go dumpster-diving for their food, which isn't theft (though it's often trespassing). Which, I think, makes your brand of freeganism plain old petty crime.

Well, here's some news: when you eat vegetables, you are still benefiting from the death of a living thing.

And the angel of the lord came unto me, snatching me up from my place of slumber. And took me on high, and higher still until we moved to the spaces betwixt the air itself. And he brought me into a vast farmlands of our own midwest. And as we descended, cries of impending doom rose from the soil. One thousand, nay a million voices full of fear. And terror possesed me then. And I begged, "Angel of the Lord, what are these tortured screams?" And the angel said unto me, "These are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots! You see, Reverend Maynard, tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the holocaust." And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat like the tears of one million terrified brothers and roared, "Hear me now, I have seen the light! They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers!" Can I get an amen? Can I get a hallelujah? Thank you Jesus.

Amen

Ibut if an animal product is obtained without contributing money (ie, stealing) it's all fine and dandy to use it.

Edit: Who's Maynard? He sounds right on track, it's about time we learned how to download our energy directly from the sun instead of engaging in this barbaric and unenlighened practice of "eating"

Edit: Who's Maynard? He sounds right on track, it's about time we learned how to download our energy directly from the sun instead of engaging in this barbaric and unenlighened practice of "eating"

And the angel of the lord came unto me, snatching me up from my place of slumber. And took me on high, and higher still until we moved to the spaces betwixt the air itself. And he brought me into a vast farmlands of our own midwest. And as we descended, cries of impending doom rose from the soil. One thousand, nay a million voices full of fear. And terror possesed me then. And I begged, "Angel of the Lord, what are these tortured screams?" And the angel said unto me, "These are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots! You see, Reverend Maynard, tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the holocaust." And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat like the tears of one million terrified brothers and roared, "Hear me now, I have seen the light! They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers!" Can I get an amen? Can I get a hallelujah? Thank you Jesus.


Life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on........

This is necessary.

It was daylight when you woke up in your ditch. You looked up at your sky then. That made blue be your color. You had your knife there with you too. When you stood up there was goo all over your clothes. Your hands were sticky. You wiped them on your grass, so now your color was green. Oh Lord, why did everything always have to keep changing like this. You were already getting nervous again. Your head hurt and it rang when you stood up. Your head was almost empty. It always hurt you when you woke up like this. You crawled up out of your ditch onto your gravel road and began to walk, waiting for the rest of your mind to come back to you. You can see the car parked far down the road and you walked toward it. "If God is our Father," you thought, "then Satan must be our cousin." Why didn't anyone else understand these important things? You got to your car and tried all the doors. They were locked. It was a red car and it was new. There was an expensive leather camera case laying on the seat. Out across your field, you could see two tiny people walking by your woods. You began to walk towards them. Now red was your color and, of course, those little people out there were yours too.

Vegetarians are eating the rainforests!

Ain't that the truth.
I am a carnivore and prowd of it. Screw veg-heads.

What a weird way to get my 100 post.

Vegetarians are eating the rainforests!

Ain't that the truth.
I am a carnivore and prowd of it. Screw veg-heads.

What a weird way to get my 100 post.

I don't understand all the unconditional hatred towards the veggies. I can understand the stance against PETA, but not every vegan is a zealous, proselytizing moron. I don't hate or condemn your dietary choices, y'know. There this weird stigma against vegetarians and vegan, like they're all easily offended and full of propaganda.

Look you, I don't have an agenda to push. So fine, "screw me". Just give a good reason for your slander.

The argument that vegetarianism and veganism is somehow inherently flawed because that vegetarian or vegan still consumes life is pretty much moot in my case, anyway. I would not be opposed to eating meat that I went out and obtained myself through, say, hunting or fishing or even substinance farming. However, I am opposed to the standardized and industrial method of meat production and consumption rampant western civilization. That's why I choose to keep with agriculture.