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| Author: | Mr.KISS [ Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:22 am ] |
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Any thoughts on it? Eh? I'm a bit upset the conservatives are doing so well, I thought it would have been a Liberal Minority government with the Conservatives extremly close behind (then the Quebecquois then NDP). Too bad though... |
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| Author: | Kittie Rose [ Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:34 am ] |
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The reason Canada has been enjoying such a progressive and socially productive time lately is because of the liberal government. Wave goodbye to that :/ |
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| Author: | Cobalt [ Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:37 am ] |
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bah, it's not the end of the world. a Conservative minority will probably be fine. i dislike Stephen Harper, but the Conservatives have moved a bit to the left on some of their social policies lately, and i like a lot of their foreign policy. i wish that there was a party in Canada with the foreign policy of the Conservatives and the domestic policies of the NDP, but it'll never happen. this should be interesting, at least. |
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| Author: | Mr.KISS [ Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:50 am ] |
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Kittie Rose wrote: The reason Canada has been enjoying such a progressive and socially productive time lately is because of the liberal government. Wave goodbye to that :/
Ya, I'd probably be more in favor of the Conservative if I didn't think they were going to waste time un doing things the Liberals already have accomplished (gay marriage is the main one I'm worried aboot). |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:52 am ] |
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I'll admit, I know nothing about canadian political parties, but is there a moderate party there, or is Canada like the US, where moderates don't even get laughed at? |
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| Author: | Jitka [ Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:19 am ] |
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Despite being somewhat of a political buff, I was only marginally aware that there was an election coming up in Canada. I don't know, whenever I hear the phrase "vote of no confidence" I immediately think of Star Wars Episode One. Anyway, I did a bit of research on Stephen Harper, and I've come to the conclusion that I can't trust anyone whose face is that wide and is that big of a Beatles fan. 
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| Author: | Cobalt [ Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:30 am ] |
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StrongRad wrote: I'll admit, I know nothing about canadian political parties, but is there a moderate party there, or is Canada like the US, where moderates don't even get laughed at?
compared the US, all our parties are moderate. relative to the Republicans, Stephen Harper's Conservatives are a pack of Communists. the Liberals were very middle-of-the-road, and they stayed in power for more than 12 years. the NDP are more radically left-wing, and they showed gains in this election. |
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| Author: | Trev-MUN [ Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:01 am ] |
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Well--for those who are bemoaning the vote of no confidence and re-election as Canada's downfall ... Given that Canadian friends have described the Liberal sponsorship scandal that's been brewing for years and came to a head over the past few months as Canada's version of Enron or Watergate (depending on who I talk to and their political views), I don't think I'd be so quick to say Canada has "done so well socially and progressively" under the Liberals. :/ A good explanation of what happened can be found here. It's one of the main causes for this election, as I understand it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sponsorship_scandal "... Illicit and even illegal activities within the administration of the program were revealed, involving misuse and misdirection of public funds intended for government advertising in Quebec. The resulting investigations and scandal have affected the Canadian government, particularly the ruling Liberal Party of Canada and the current government of Prime Minister Paul Martin ..." I can defnitely see why there's people who view the Liberal party as a bunch of NIxons or Kenneth Lays. |
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| Author: | Dark Grapefruit [ Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:01 pm ] |
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Bah, I really didn't want to see Harper get into power, but I knew it was going to happen. No, I'm not afraid of a "secret conservative agenda" that the fear-mongering newscasts have been speculating on. I'm afraid of the agenda that's right there in the open: cutting taxes at the expense of social services and re-opening human rights issues that should be over and one with. I voted Liberal, because I trust in Paul Martin's leadership. The sponsorship scandal was done by select individuals in Chretien's government and the Liberal party has done a good job of recovering under Martin. But I guess there's no use in complaining now. At least the Liberal candidate won in my riding. |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:04 pm ] |
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I'd suggest voting for The Popular Search Engine Google, but he's already busy being president of Forumopolis. I vote for StrongCanada. |
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| Author: | Mikes! [ Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:13 pm ] |
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How did the Greens do? |
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| Author: | Cobalt [ Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:35 pm ] |
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the Greens didn't win a single seat, as usual. |
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| Author: | Mr.KISS [ Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:36 am ] |
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The Green party barely exists anymore. There's no advertisment for them (that I've seen), my riding doesn't have a Green candidate (I'm not sure how many they have), and their too in experienced to know what they're really doing. |
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| Author: | Cobalt [ Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:47 am ] |
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the Greens apparently increased their proportion of the vote by 0.5% since the last election, but it means nothing because we don't have proportional representation in Canada, seats are decided by electoral district. none of the fringe parties will ever have a hope of getting into parliament under the current system. not that i like the Greens, particularly. i just think we should have a more democratic, proportional system. |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:46 pm ] |
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Cobalt wrote: the Greens apparently increased their proportion of the vote by 0.5% since the last election, but it means nothing because we don't have proportional representation in Canada, seats are decided by electoral district. none of the fringe parties will ever have a hope of getting into parliament under the current system.
not that i like the Greens, particularly. i just think we should have a more democratic, proportional system. That's like any third party here in the states. The only chance they have is for people to get fed up with republicans(and they're getting there), and for people like Hillary Clinton to keep saying stupid things ("The house has been run like a plantation, and you know what I'm talking about") to discredit the democrats. The party I see with the best chance in the states are the libertarians. They offer the small government that would have less regulation over business, less gun control, and lower taxes that republicans claim they offer. They also offer the freedoms that democrats claim they offer. In short, they are what both parties claim they are. I think that, as people learn more about them, they will gain a significant foothold here in the states. |
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| Author: | Kittie Rose [ Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:22 pm ] |
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I believe the conservatives in Canada are only slightly less liberal than the Liberals, and both are considerably more liberal than the republicans, and I believe the democrats too. |
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| Author: | Kevin DuBrow [ Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:46 pm ] |
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I don't know anything about the Canadian election, but the one guy that has been in office for about 12 years isn't there anymore. |
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| Author: | Mr.KISS [ Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:55 pm ] |
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Kevin DuBrow wrote: I don't know anything about the Canadian election, but the one guy that has been in office for about 12 years isn't there anymore.
Who? Cretien? He was gone a while ago. |
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| Author: | Dark Grapefruit [ Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:18 pm ] |
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Kevin DuBrow wrote: I don't know anything about the Canadian election, but the one party that has been in office for about 12 years isn't there anymore.
Fixed. One party (Liberal), two leaders (Chretien and Martin). |
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| Author: | Sexy_Sakura [ Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:10 am ] |
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Kittie Rose wrote: I believe the conservatives in Canada are only slightly less liberal than the Liberals, and both are considerably more liberal than the republicans, and I believe the democrats too.
That's very untrue. They are not as socially progressive as the Liberals. Take the gay marriage issue, or abortion, for instance. Though, with such a huge minority, they won't be able to change much of the social policies already in place. That's good news, to me. |
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