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 Post subject: A cure for AIDS discovered?
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http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_3482712

This will be wonderful if it pans out.


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that would be great, but i'm not holding my breath. i hope it's for real, tho.


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If this is the for-real deal, it will be the greatest medical breakthrough in history.

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That's wonderful. I hope it works.

And perhaps the research can be applied to curing other diseases, too. Like hepatitis or herpes.

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Beyond the Grave wrote:
If this is the for-real deal, it will be the greatest medical breakthrough in history.

No, not necessarily. The discovery of antibiotic compounds kickstarted modern medicine. Without that, we probably wouldn't have sophisticated medicines. I'll be waiting for something bigger to be the greatest medical breakthrough in history, if there is even something that could eclipse that.

I'm skeptical, because the virus could always evolve resistance against such drugs, if it even works or exists (see below). My friend has an internship alongside a doctor doing research on HIV at a local hospital, I'll chat him up Thursday and see if he's ever heard anything about this.

Also on a google news search for CSA-54 there resulted in only five articles. Four of them were the same thing, a press release from what appeared to be the company sponsoring the studies (Ceragenix) and the other was the one lahimatoa posted, from the salt lake tribune--not surprising since part of the research was from Brigham Young. Searching for the newly synthesized class (ceragenins...) came up with only one additional article from Tenessee, where Vanderbilt is, and considering it was a joint venture at some point in time, that's not surprising either.

A google scholar search for csa-54 hiv came up with only five results, one of which was in portuguese and none appearing to be from vanderbilt or brigham young universities. The others seemed to be from journals of ophthalmology. A broadened search to csa-54 came up with other articles, but most were from before the year 2000. The fact that they had not released anything scholarly before a press release seems fishy to me.

Anyone know anything about cold fusion? other than the fact that it doesn't exist? Those guys waited to release scholarly papers and their experiments couldn't be replicated, disproving their theories.

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20060206005234&newsLang=en
that's the press-release one.

sorry to get your hopes possibly down, but I honestly have doubts in these reports.


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I have to agree with Antibiotics, and penicillin. This is huge and it's great, but it's not the biggest. Still, maybe the biggest breaktrough IS just around the corner!

Unfortunately this isn't a medical wide breakthrough, it's just the discovery of a specific compund, and is probably not useful for anything else.

I really, really hope it's true though.

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I love how everyone is all of the sudden medical experts.

Kittie Rose wrote:
Unfortunately this isn't a medical wide breakthrough, it's just the discovery of a specific compund, and is probably not useful for anything else.


The article wrote:
In addition to being a potential checkmate to HIV, the compounds show indications of being just as effective against other diseases plaguing humankind - among them influenza, possibly even the dread bird flu, along with smallpox and herpes.


You should probably read the article before commenting.

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I wasn't trying to be an expert, I was just pointing out that there isn't exactly much proof for this unless you take the words of two newspapers serving the universities involved in this and some business news released by the company sponsoring the research. Yes, it may be true... but there isn't a lot of proof present to confirm these facts.

I didn't just read the article posted, but I searched for other articles too. Didn't see much, as I posted before.

Once again, if anyone knows anything about the story of cold fusion you might know where I'm coming from... or maybe not.

Viruses are difficult to combat as it is, think of the common cold.


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I didn't just read the article posted, but I searched for other articles too. Didn't see much, as I posted before.


That comment wasn't directed at you, but I do find it humorous to see so much commentary about something that none of us have much facts about. Do you really think that these scientists would release any paperwork without a small announcement of what could be the most important discovery in the last 100+ years? I didn't think it odd at all, but I don't know much about it, nor about the medical field in general. It seems though that in being obviously optomistic, they are also being cautious... just my uninformed 2 cents.

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sweet! this is gonna be the biggest discover of this ten years! next ten years, its gonna be the cure for cancer. the ten years after that..uhh..we find bin laden, but this is gonna rock if it actually works

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Dude, if they cure AIDS, that is gonna be sweet!

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seamusz wrote:
I love how everyone is all of the sudden medical experts.

Kittie Rose wrote:
Unfortunately this isn't a medical wide breakthrough, it's just the discovery of a specific compund, and is probably not useful for anything else.


The article wrote:
In addition to being a potential checkmate to HIV, the compounds show indications of being just as effective against other diseases plaguing humankind - among them influenza, possibly even the dread bird flu, along with smallpox and herpes.


You should probably read the article before commenting.


I'm getting really tired of you being so damn obnoxious.

I read that. It's my opinion that this specific compound won't be able to deal with a wide range of things as they claim, and that it's being hopeful. My point was that it's one specific thing, not a huge breakthrough that would change the whole approach to medicine, like say, nanotechnology would be. Because of that, I don't think it's going to be a big be all and end all cure as in the past cures such as this haven't been, though it will certainly help fight other immune system related disorders.

And you're *Really* someone to be talking about being ignorant of scientists and people that know better.

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Can we hold off on the personal insults?
Seriously.

As for me, I'm hoping this is a viable cure, unfortunately, I'm overly pessimistic, and as such, think this is gonna be another case of "the miners are all alive".

Of course, when it turns out that this is the end all cure for aids, I'll be the first to let you say I told you so.

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I'm hoping this works out too, but like StrongRad said, I'm a bit pessimistic about things like this.

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To all those people out there who say that "Oh, it's only on a few websites..."

SLASHDOTTED!

Granted, it's only a tech blog, but it's something.

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Anyone know anything about cold fusion? other than the fact that it doesn't exist? Those guys waited to release scholarly papers and their experiments couldn't be replicated, disproving their theories.


Actually, yes, I'm rather familiar with the University of Utah cold fusion fiasco. It makes me a bit gunshy, too, as having two major scienctific breakthroughs debunked in the same state would be rather embarrassing.

But it sounds good so far.

We'll see.


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