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Toastpaint - I don't have a problem with interracial relationships. I'll be the first to admit that I've never had any...does this mean I'm racist? I hope not.

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote:

you know... im mexican, and im going out with this German girl, and im not sure what her parents are gonna say or think........
it just really scares me...... err...... yeah.

Just show her parents how nicely you treat her (which I'm assuming you treat her nicely) and hopefully, they'll be kind enough to be cool with the relationship.

I'll be the first to admit that I've never had any...does this mean I'm racist? I hope not.

So you're tolerant of everything but what you disagree with? That's a lot to be intolerant about... you may want to take a closer look what defines you.

they are subhuman filth who should exercise their right to be idiots far away from me...

I'll be the first to admit that I've never had any...does this mean I'm racist? I hope not.

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So you're tolerant of everything but what you disagree with? That's a lot to be intolerant about... you may want to take a closer look what defines you.

A bunch of intolerant, prejudiced crap, dis

The things you've posted make you look like as much of a moron as the guy you're gunning down.

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The things you've posted make you look like as much of a moron as the guy you're gunning down.

That's not true at all. He defended his position quite well unlike the other guy who doesn't even bother doing anything past two-line trolling.

I have no problem with them because, deep down, race is irrelevant to a person. And racism will continue as long as people have a concept of "race".

DP, if you don't agree that wanting to injure others for their beliefs is intolerant, then we disagree. I'll ignore your hate-filled spew of crap and move on now

I have no problem with them because, deep down, race is irrelevant to a person. And racism will continue as long as people have a concept of "race".

It's something called anger. It's an emotion. Something you don't have. Also, it's exaggeration. I guess you have a hard time grasping some things. Guess that's why you are nationalist who can't dream of ever questioning his beloved government or support civil rights!

That's the first time I've seen anyone try to pass anger off as a positive emotion.

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That's the first time I've seen anyone try to pass anger off as a positive emotion. Generally it just makes people irrational.

So let me translate your post:

"You are a robot. And stupid. And also don't ever question the gov't. And hate minorities."

Excellent thoughts. Although I have no idea where you get these ideas from.

But keep on keepin' on. Let me know when you have coherent points to make.

Since you asked nicely, Ms. Rose, the only point I was trying to make is that to say "I'm tolerant and you aren't" generally fails to take into account things such as racism. To be 100% tolerant, you must accept EVERYONE's points of view regarding EVERYTHING. You can't pick and choose.

What you promote is complete and utter inaction against bigotry.

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What you promote is complete and utter inaction against bigotry.

Um....where does that come from?

You ragging on at anyone who is intolerant of bigots.

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You ragging on at anyone who is intolerant of bigots.

I rag on people who claim to be universally tolerant, but do not indeed tolerate everything.

I despise neo-nazis and the KKK, as well as other such groups.

Clear?

the fact of the matter is that parents can teach their kids anything they want and noone is gonna care because its not hurting them. if the parents tell their kids that Interracial Relationships are wrong, that is their buisiness.

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote:

No, it's not, it's racist, and don't force an uninformed opinion as fact. It causes plenty of harm and no good, therefore yes, it is wrong, and since you've provided nothing to say otherwise, it is not the "fact of the matter".

I can't believe you can even BEGIN to claim that racism isn't hurting anyone.

I rag on people who claim to be universally tolerant

Until racism is eliminated, Affirmative action will be needed and from the reading the posts here, I think it will be needed for quite some time.

Author:	Beyond the Grave [ Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:39 pm ]
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StrongCanada wrote: Toastpaint - I don't have a problem with interracial relationships. I'll be the first to admit that I've never had any...does this mean I'm racist? I hope not. No, not at all. If you were a racist you would totally reject the idea of inter-racial relationships. You just haven't been in one, that's all.

Author:	Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:43 pm ]
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StrongCanada wrote: Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote: you know... im mexican, and im going out with this German girl, and im not sure what her parents are gonna say or think........ it just really scares me...... err...... yeah. Just show her parents how nicely you treat her (which I'm assuming you treat her nicely) and hopefully, they'll be kind enough to be cool with the relationship. i do treat her nice, hell, nicer than ive treated anyone, but i dont know if thats even enough if theyre parents are against inter racial relationships. oi,

Author:	Shippinator Mandy [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:12 am ]
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StrongCanada wrote: I'll be the first to admit that I've never had any...does this mean I'm racist? I hope not. No, not in the least! If you hadn't had one because you refuse to date anyone who's not of your race, yeah, you'd be racist, but if you've never been in an interracial relationship because you haven't had feelings for a man of another race (which I'm certain is what you mean), there's nothing wrong with that. If the guy you love happens to be white (you're white, right?), that's great. If he happens to be black or Hispanic or Asian or whatever, that's just as great. Now, I do know that religious differences can cause trouble in a relationship. For example, I know that Catholics are taught to raise their kids Catholic, so it would be very hard for them if they married, say, a Jew, because why would the Jew want their spouse to teach their children a religion they disagree with? Cultural differences could present problems, I guess, but considering that most people in America (and almost certainly other places) are assimilated cultural mutts anyway, I don't see it being that much of a problem, if it's a problem at all. (For example, my mom's of Scottish descent and my dad's of German descent, and they've had no marital issues.)

Author:	DeathlyPallor [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:49 am ]
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Quote: So you're tolerant of everything but what you disagree with? That's a lot to be intolerant about... you may want to take a closer look what defines you. Did you even read my post? I justified my hatred of racists, very simply so even homoncului of such weak cognitive calibre like you can comprehend it. But, apparently, I made the error in giving you the benefit of the doubt. By the way, cretin, one of the friends I met in college is a conservative, and I could care less. She's cool anyways. Sure, you may be a conservative, but you're an uneducated fool who didn't realize the purpose of my aforementioned statements. She is actually a decent, kind human being, my friend and I could care less about her politics. She's not a judgmental waste of genetic material like you. That's called disagreeing. I am perfectly at home with what defines me. Racists tick me off, and that is one defining factor. And I have every effing right to be this angry and vehement about it... So, you bascially missed the whole point. You probably have never experienced racism, except being on the dealing end. I don't really go by liberal... I go by common sense. Who cares of they are the same thing. Quote: they are subhuman filth who should exercise their right to be idiots far away from me... So, you are telling me that my intolerance towards those who hate people for something as mundane as the color of their skin is unjustified? People who judge on outer appearence are truly ugly on the inside, and you just proved that you are nothing shy of hideous. Also, did you just say that you are tolerant and believe that a racists beliefs are justified. Do you even know what prejudice means? prej·u·dice (n): An irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics. And you can say that I am being prejudicial or racists. I have run acrossed a myriad of racists in my time, some bearing a badge as well. But, even though those cops had the audacity to call me a dirty f------ spick under their teeth (I heard them... reported it, but to no avail), do I think all cops are racists? No, but I digress. You have probably never experienced racism, so, you've no right to even think that my hatred is irrational or not. But, I will further display on my rationale. I think that any person who holds the ideal that justifies dragging someone to their death using a pickup truck just because their skin is a different color is worthy of hatred and has proved their sub-human status by tolerating such irrationality. And who do you think you are telling me that I can't hate racists. You mean to tell me you are in support of such behavior? Sure, they have the right to be racists... I can't force someone not to be (so... I can't change you, sorry)... They have their rights, and so do I. I have the right to hate them, and they have to right to not nauseate me with their presence. I don't say this because I am at odds with anyone because they are a conservative, I am at odds with you because you are an uneducated, and apparently, illiterate moron who is prejudicial towards liberals or anyone with a dissenting opinion towards the government.

Author:	DeathlyPallor [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:50 am ]
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Quote: I'll be the first to admit that I've never had any...does this mean I'm racist? I hope not. No... that's a stupid question. You have a right to have your tastes just like anyone else.

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Author:	StrongRad [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:19 pm ]
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DeathlyPallor wrote: Quote: So you're tolerant of everything but what you disagree with? That's a lot to be intolerant about... you may want to take a closer look what defines you. A bunch of intolerant, prejudiced crap, dis You seriously need to chill. If you have a problem with him, take it to PMs. The things you've posted make you look like as much of a moron as the guy you're gunning down. TOASTPAINT My cousin Chrissy married a black guy back in March. What bothered me is that her friends were the ones giving her most of the drama about it (they wanted her to get back with the guy she dated before Ben, even though he beat her up and generally treated her like crap). My family had a problem with it, but it was because they thought she was marrying him to marry into some money (he is cousin to Shaun Alexander, running back for the future Super Bowl champs, and his dad is a rather well off business man in Cincinnati). There were exceptions (our aunt and one of our uncles) was all "that shouldn't be!". Strangely enough, that aunt is perfectly okay with another of my cousins being a lesbian (so my aunt is racist, but not a homophobe.. go figure..) Either way, Chrissy is happy, so I am, too.

Author:	Kittie Rose [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:22 pm ]
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Quote: The things you've posted make you look like as much of a moron as the guy you're gunning down. That's not true at all. He defended his position quite well unlike the other guy who doesn't even bother doing anything past two-line trolling.

Author:	StrongRad [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:28 pm ]
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Kittie Rose wrote: Quote: The things you've posted make you look like as much of a moron as the guy you're gunning down. That's not true at all. He defended his position quite well unlike the other guy who doesn't even bother doing anything past two-line trolling. He used the "I have a friend who is ___..." line.. That's the same kind of line a lot of racists use. That's hardly defending your position.

Author:	lahimatoa [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:56 pm ]
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It's the Rose and Deathly Pallor tag-team! Live on Pay-Per-View! DP, if you don't agree that wanting to injure others for their beliefs is intolerant, then we disagree. I'll ignore your hate-filled spew of crap and move on now. That's all.

Author:	Crystallina [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:48 pm ]
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I have no problem with them because, deep down, race is irrelevant to a person. And racism will continue as long as people have a concept of "race".

Author:	StrongRad [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:10 pm ]
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Crystallina wrote: I have no problem with them because, deep down, race is irrelevant to a person. And racism will continue as long as people have a concept of "race". I've heard (on some other boards, maybe even this one) that there is no biological/genetic basis for the concept of "race".. Could someone clear this up for me?

Author:	Crystallina [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:26 pm ]
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I've read about that, but that wasn't the point I was trying to make. Thinking more along the lines of personality - the soul, if you will.

Author:	DeathlyPallor [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:28 pm ]
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Quote: DP, if you don't agree that wanting to injure others for their beliefs is intolerant, then we disagree. I'll ignore your hate-filled spew of crap and move on now It's something called anger. It's an emotion. Something you don't have. Also, it's exaggeration. I guess you have a hard time grasping some things. Guess that's why you are nationalist who can't dream of ever questioning his beloved government or support civil rights! ------------------------------------------------------ I am honestly taken aback by the fact that anyone would consider giving any leeway or tolerance for racism. Strong Rad - So... if you consider that not tolerating racism is unjustified, does that make you a racist? Quote: I have no problem with them because, deep down, race is irrelevant to a person. And racism will continue as long as people have a concept of "race". Well, at least you proved that you have a brain.

Author:	lahimatoa [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:57 pm ]
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Quote: It's something called anger. It's an emotion. Something you don't have. Also, it's exaggeration. I guess you have a hard time grasping some things. Guess that's why you are nationalist who can't dream of ever questioning his beloved government or support civil rights! That's the first time I've seen anyone try to pass anger off as a positive emotion. Generally it just makes people irrational. So let me translate your post: "You are a robot. And stupid. And also don't ever question the gov't. And hate minorities." Excellent thoughts. Although I have no idea where you get these ideas from. But keep on keepin' on. Let me know when you have coherent points to make.

Author:	Alexander [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:28 pm ]
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Alright then, here's my bit to the conversation. I'm strongly agaisn't all forms of racism. I find it utterly absurd to dislike someone based upon coloring. And because it's something you cannot control. And most of all, it breaks the second commandment of the Bible which states: "Love thy neighbor as thyself". And that is that.

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Author:	DeathlyPallor [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:18 pm ]
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Fine, you wan't coherent? Quote: That's the first time I've seen anyone try to pass anger off as a positive emotion. Where do you think inspiration for a lot of music comes from? I've never heard a good song written about happiness unless it were about it being lost. The only happy songs ever written are cheesy bubblegum crap. So, there is a lot to be said for anger. --------------------------------------------------------------- Granting any form of clemency, tolerance or acceptance towards racists and racism at large is pathetic and shows that this world has not made as much progress as many people would like to think. People who sympathize with any racists' sentiments are no better than the racists themselves. Trying to say that any one race is better than another, or even showing sympathy for such sentiment, is pitiful. From my experience, people who tolerate racism either are racists themselves or never had to experience racism first hand.

Author:	Kittie Rose [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:47 pm ]
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lahimatoa wrote: Quote: It's something called anger. It's an emotion. Something you don't have. Also, it's exaggeration. I guess you have a hard time grasping some things. Guess that's why you are nationalist who can't dream of ever questioning his beloved government or support civil rights! That's the first time I've seen anyone try to pass anger off as a positive emotion. Generally it just makes people irrational. So let me translate your post: "You are a robot. And stupid. And also don't ever question the gov't. And hate minorities." Excellent thoughts. Although I have no idea where you get these ideas from. But keep on keepin' on. Let me know when you have coherent points to make. You're just chopping up little bits of other peoples arguments and arranging them into the bloody mess that is your own. Are you doing this on purpose?

Author:	Kittie Rose [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:51 pm ]
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Lahimatoa, what ARE you fighting for?

Author:	lahimatoa [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:29 pm ]
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Since you asked nicely, Ms. Rose, the only point I was trying to make is that to say "I'm tolerant and you aren't" generally fails to take into account things such as racism. To be 100% tolerant, you must accept EVERYONE's points of view regarding EVERYTHING. You can't pick and choose. DP was portraying himself as a tolerant individual, as he is involved in something of an interracial relationship. And then he followed it up with a desire to do serious bodily harm to anyone who was racist. That doesn't quite seem to click. I am not racist. I have friends of many nationalities and skin colors. I judge people on their actions, and not on their race or genealogy. I also think that there are good songs that aren't angry. But that's entirely subjective.

Author:	Kittie Rose [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:59 am ]
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Quote: Since you asked nicely, Ms. Rose, the only point I was trying to make is that to say "I'm tolerant and you aren't" generally fails to take into account things such as racism. To be 100% tolerant, you must accept EVERYONE's points of view regarding EVERYTHING. You can't pick and choose. I never claimed to be tolerant of intolerance, nor 100% tolerant. To be 100% tolerant you'd have to tolerate murders, rapists, and politicians. I am tolerant of things that don't hurt other people. Most people take that as a given. What you promote is complete and utter inaction against bigotry. When left to it's own devices, bigotry does nothing but spread.

Author:	lahimatoa [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:01 am ]
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Quote: What you promote is complete and utter inaction against bigotry. Um....where does that come from?

Author:	Kittie Rose [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:03 am ]
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lahimatoa wrote: Quote: What you promote is complete and utter inaction against bigotry. Um....where does that come from? You ragging on at anyone who is intolerant of bigots.

Author:	lahimatoa [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:06 am ]
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Quote: You ragging on at anyone who is intolerant of bigots. I rag on people who claim to be universally tolerant, but do not indeed tolerate everything. I despise neo-nazis and the KKK, as well as other such groups. Clear?

Author:	Kittie Rose [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:13 am ]
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lahimatoa wrote: Quote: You ragging on at anyone who is intolerant of bigots. I rag on people who claim to be universally tolerant, but do not indeed tolerate everything. I despise neo-nazis and the KKK, as well as other such groups. Clear? I am not tolerant of everything, as I said. I never claimed to be universally tolerant as it's essentially a logical impossibility anyway.

Author:	Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:22 am ]
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okay, this needs a MAJOR OVERDUE TOASTPAINT. the fact of the matter is that parents can teach their kids anything they want and noone is gonna care because its not hurting them. if the parents tell their kids that Interracial Relationships are wrong, that is their buisiness.

Author:	Kittie Rose [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:30 am ]
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Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote: the fact of the matter is that parents can teach their kids anything they want and noone is gonna care because its not hurting them. if the parents tell their kids that Interracial Relationships are wrong, that is their buisiness. No, it's not, it's racist, and don't force an uninformed opinion as fact. It causes plenty of harm and no good, therefore yes, it is wrong, and since you've provided nothing to say otherwise, it is not the "fact of the matter". I can't believe you can even BEGIN to claim that racism isn't hurting anyone.

Author:	DeathlyPallor [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:58 am ]
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Well, you can teach your kids whatever they please, but it's one thing to teach them that, but it is another when they have the capability to do harm with what they are taught; be it emotional or physical. And be it emotional, physical or on another level, racism hurts people. For example, it still keeps people from jobs (don't assume Affirmative Action works... a lot of places don't use it and do go far in the other direction). Until racism is eliminated, Affirmative action will be needed and from the reading the posts here, I think it will be needed for quite some time. Of course, I think it is utterly wrong to teach your kids something like this. But, having the government tell someone how to raise your child is a bit on the authoritative side... Quote: I rag on people who claim to be universally tolerant Ok... this is going a little off subject... here's a short list of groups I'm intolerant of (since I never claimed to be universally tolerant, just tolerant of quite a bit) in no particular order: -Racists -Homophobes -Rapists -Chauvanists -Fundamentalist Christians (not all Christians mind you... just the ones that are known as bible thumpers... the one's I'd like to consider this before the next time they call the US a Christian nation "I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature.....Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion?" - Thomas Jefferson from "Notes on Virginia... keep your god off of our laws) -Far Right Conservatives (Not the right wing/conservatives in general, just those who take it way too far.) -McCarthyists (if you've done your homework, you should know who Sen. McCarthy is... a total SOB, and you should know that this a repeat of the last group) -People who wonder why the rest of the world hates the US (It's not really intolerance... It just provides me with a laugh, though it is sad.) Self Toastpaint.

Author:	lahimatoa [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:33 pm ]
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Quote: Until racism is eliminated, Affirmative action will be needed and from the reading the posts here, I think it will be needed for quite some time. Lame. Affirmative action is racism. Getting into a school based solely on the color of your skin? Whatever happened to receiving rewards based on ability and accomplishment? Are you intolerant of fundamentalist Muslims? Far left liberals? Feminists?