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Anyway, I third the motion of biracial people being exceoptionally beautiful. I don't even know WHY this is, but everyone I meet that considers themselves biracial is drop-dead gorgeous. Lucky little so-and-so grumble grumble...
They get the best features of both races, I guess. Plus, it's a fact: light brown skin is sexy.

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http://national-socialism.deviantart.com/

These guys are nuts. They promote National Socialism and think that every country should be of one particular race or religion and that this will solve all our problems.

Funny, because I could have sworn race and religion were only two aspects of a peron's self, and that all great tragedies in history weren't caused by our differences, but attempts to forcibly erradicate them(the crusades, WII, etc).

Why they even call it National Socialism is beyond me, it's like they WANT to be "misunderstood".

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Why they even call it National Socialism is beyond me, it's like they WANT to be "misunderstood".
Because it sounds nice. Just like the People's Republic of China.

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 Post subject: Re: Inter-racial Relationships.
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Ok, so recently, I found out that our church's youth group leader was against inter-racial relationships, to which I was all like, "...". And that lead me to thinking. What do you guys think about it?


Now is this just Black/White relationships or can it be any two races?

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To me, inter-racial means just that, inter-racial.

White and Black, Black and Asian, White and Asian, Black and Latino, Asian and Latino, etc..

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I have no problem with it.

My cousin (who's white) married a black girl, and she's cooler than he is.

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I don't have any problems with inter-racial relationships, but I would say that I am not a proponent of inter-cultural relationships. It isn't that I see anything ethically wrong with it, but I think that I would be a difficult marriage for all involved.

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To me, inter-racial means just that, inter-racial.

White and Black, Black and Asian, White and Asian, Black and Latino, Asian and Latino, etc..


I could have guessed that, but some people think of it differently.

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Hello. This is my first post. This topic caught my eye because I am currently in an interracial relationship. (My second actually). I'm a white guy and my girlfriend is black. As far as how we feel about each other, the race thing doesn't matter one bit. But because we both enjoy observing and discussing human nature, we do talk about our racial differences quite often. We often get stared at, and I used to be very uncomfortable with that, but I've grown accustomed to it I guess. Doesn't really phase me much anymore.
I guess there is one thing about interracial relationships that one has to be careful of: Raising children. From the direction of my relationship, it looks like my girlfriend and I will eventually get married and have kids and all that good stuff. But getting to know more black people over the past few years has taught me one thing: I don't know the first thing about raising black children. While you peeps, and I, might not really care what color they are, or we might see them as interracial children, society at large sees them as black. And raising black children may require a sort of knowledge of the "black experience" that I may never be fully equiped to teach them. I am trying my best to learn, because it will come up one day. I have never had any first hand experience with racism, and I am a bit afraid I would be completely unable to teach my children how to deal with such things.
I guess the fact is, being raised in an overwhelmingly white community left me completely ignorant to the fact that there is still racism in this country. I guess white America for the most part has no clue how much it can still suck to be black. Just ask anyone who has been pulled over for Driving While Black.

I have a black friend who describes himself as an "African Nationalist." And in my view, he is the most racist person I have ever met. If he sees a group of white people who don't look quite right, or are acting goofy, he'll just say "I HATE WHITE PEOPLE!" . . . I'm never quite sure if he's completely serious or not, but since I'm his friend, I guess he can't hate us too much. But he is against interracial marriage. He wants to keep the purity of the black race. I guess I can understand that, as he doesn't want his heritage diluted by an outside source. (Of course it's kinda silly coming from him . . his mother's mother is white). He dates white girls, or rather hooks up with them, and says "white girls are for using, black girls are for marrying." I guess I never will understand his line of thinking in these things. But not being black and not having faced any oppression at the hands of whitey, I guess there's no way I could understand. Other than that he is a good friend. Go figure.

And now, for the music topic that was brought up. I think it is very quick and judgemental to say that many black people who listen to rap and R&B are just fulfilling a stereotype. I think people just tend to gravitate towards the music they hear the most. My dad listened to lots of classic rock, Zeppelin, Stones, Allman Bros, etc, and I was basically raised listened to tons of that kind of music. That was the music that surrounded my environment, and I basically adopted it as the music I listened to and enjoyed myself. And the natural progression of that was to listen to Soundgarden and The Black Crowes and Tool and whatever else that came with my generation. I think the same thing happens with the music black kids listen to. Kids living in a black community are surrounded by the sounds of hip-hop and r&b. They absorb that type of music from a young age, and it is just a natural fit. Why would they like any other type of music as much when they aren't exposed to it nearly as much? Or it could be exactly like my situation. Black parents listen to The Supremes, Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles, so their kids are naturally drawn to black r&b artists, and they listen to whatever their generation's equivalent of those artists are. (Destiny's Child, or whatever else, I don't keep up with R&B ). Lastly, I think black kids might naturally be drawn towards musicians and artists that look like they do, that they can relate to, that may have the same experiences they do. But the claim that they are all just mindlessly fulfilling stereotypes could be in itself be regarded as a pretty bigoted statement. Besides all that, it seems ALL kids, regardless of race, are listening to rap and r&b these days, but that's another topic completely.

Well that's all I have to say about that. In conclusion, interracial relationships are super-awesome (and their offspring are so incredibly good looking), my black friend is a racist jerk, and don't give people grief for the music they listen to. And finally, Theo Huxtable is in fact the greatest rapper of our time. :coachz:

Thanks, to anybody who read and understood a damn thing I wrote here at 4:00am.

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I have a black friend who describes himself as an "African Nationalist." And in my view, he is the most racist person I have ever met. If he sees a group of white people who don't look quite right, or are acting goofy, he'll just say "I HATE WHITE PEOPLE!" . . . I'm never quite sure if he's completely serious or not, but since I'm his friend, I guess he can't hate us too much. But he is against interracial marriage. He wants to keep the purity of the black race. I guess I can understand that, as he doesn't want his heritage diluted by an outside source. (Of course it's kinda silly coming from him . . his mother's mother is white). He dates white girls, or rather hooks up with them, and says "white girls are for using, black girls are for marrying." I guess I never will understand his line of thinking in these things. But not being black and not having faced any oppression at the hands of whitey, I guess there's no way I could understand. Other than that he is a good friend. Go figure.
He sounds like a real jerk. Imagine if he was white and talked that way about black people.

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And now, for the music topic that was brought up. I think it is very quick and judgemental to say that many black people who listen to rap and R&B are just fulfilling a stereotype. I think people just tend to gravitate towards the music they hear the most. My dad listened to lots of classic rock, Zeppelin, Stones, Allman Bros, etc, and I was basically raised listened to tons of that kind of music. That was the music that surrounded my environment, and I basically adopted it as the music I listened to and enjoyed myself. And the natural progression of that was to listen to Soundgarden and The Black Crowes and Tool and whatever else that came with my generation. I think the same thing happens with the music black kids listen to. Kids living in a black community are surrounded by the sounds of hip-hop and r&b. They absorb that type of music from a young age, and it is just a natural fit. Why would they like any other type of music as much when they aren't exposed to it nearly as much? Or it could be exactly like my situation. Black parents listen to The Supremes, Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles, so their kids are naturally drawn to black r&b artists, and they listen to whatever their generation's equivalent of those artists are. (Destiny's Child, or whatever else, I don't keep up with R&B ). Lastly, I think black kids might naturally be drawn towards musicians and artists that look like they do, that they can relate to, that may have the same experiences they do. But the claim that they are all just mindlessly fulfilling stereotypes could be in itself be regarded as a pretty bigoted statement. Besides all that, it seems ALL kids, regardless of race, are listening to rap and r&b these days, but that's another topic completely.
The music debate is just stupid, I reckon. So say you're black, and the stereotype is that you like R&B - that doesn't mean you shouldn't listen to R&B even if you do like it. Listen to whatever you like, and forget about the so-called "issues".

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http://national-socialism.deviantart.com/

These guys are nuts. They promote National Socialism and think that every country should be of one particular race or religion and that this will solve all our problems.

Funny, because I could have sworn race and religion were only two aspects of a peron's self, and that all great tragedies in history weren't caused by our differences, but attempts to forcibly erradicate them(the crusades, WII, etc).

Why they even call it National Socialism is beyond me, it's like they WANT to be "misunderstood".


holy crap.... again i am hurting about my past brought through that Deviantart....

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But he is against interracial marriage. He wants to keep the purity of the black race. I guess I can understand that, as he doesn't want his heritage diluted by an outside source.


In other words, he's a black supremacist?

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In other words, he's a black supremacist?


Not really. I think that would imply black people are better than all the other races. I don't think that's what he believes. Just that they deserve the right to survive as a race. I think. I don't know. We don't really discuss it much.

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Hmm. Still sounds a bit racist if you ask me.

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Yes, it is racist.

I remember watching a show on racism in the Southern states on channel 4, and there was this really famous racist guy talking to someone asking if they were racist, when they say no, he replies "Why not? Don't you want your Children to look like you?".

People who put culture before individuals(some people call them "National Socialists") aren't exaclty high in my good books.

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I don't agree, nor do I disagree. But I think his opinions are built over a lifetime. Identity issues surrounding his white grandma (she was not a good person, apparently) haven't helped. I think the issue is not really black or white (no pun intended), but there is a lot of grey area, and it's way too complex to just write off all people with these feelings and opinons.

And back on topic . . . This weekend my girlfriend and I saw the new movie "Something New." I think it handles pretty well the subject of black-white interracial relationships, at least from the black perspective. It gets a bit preachy at the end. And we liked watching a movie with characters that reminded us of ourselves, and the issues we deal with.

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Hi Guys wrote:
(Please excuse me if this thread has already been made. I really didn't feel like looking.)

Ok, so recently, I found out that our church's youth group leader was against inter-racial relationships, to which I was all like, "...". And that lead me to thinking. What do you guys think about it?


I won't pretend I took the time to read all 5 pages... but I read this first post and I gotta say:

RIDICULOUS!

What is wrong with inter-racial relationships? I don't recall that it is against God. That sounds more like a racist youth group leader than anything else. I happen to base my opinions of people based on their actions and not their skin color. Or what language they speak. I say opinions and not judgement because who am I to judge ANYONE? Really, (no intention of being offensive to anyone who isn't religious or shares my beliefs) only God can pass judgement on any person. But you know, I also said what language they speak... Because black and white are not the only two races. What about hispanics or asians? Just dumb.

I cannot stand racism, in any form. But it will not go away. Most people only think of racism towards whites/blacks, but you know it goes further than that. Sadly it seems that people persecute anything different from themselves. Most people, not all people.

Whether it's being against homosexuality, other races or whatever... if they are not just like you, some people just find it easier and more comfortable for them to persecute or make fun of those people.

... why?

If someone I know wants to marry someone of another race, what business is it of mine that they do or do not? Exactly what difference will it make to me if they do or do not?

I do not support homosexuality. But I do not in any way try to persecute them for being what they are. Let them be who they want to be and focus on your own life.

Life is too short for meaningless things like this. Unfortunately, a lot of people get so worked up into trying to influence others to think like themselves. What is this post I'm making for? Same thing I suppose. But really it's just to get my thought out there and heard. Everyone feels the need to express their own views and sometimes that results in the "racism" and other such type of things that would be better off kept to themselves. I try to do it respectfully and hopefully I pull it off... but you never know how people may react to things you do.

Some people LOOK for racism so they can play the victim. I worked at a store and because (I am white btw) I did not place the lady's change at the cash register into her hand, but rather, I dropped it into her hand... she called me racist because I didn't touch her hand. WHAT? She said that I probably thought she had some kind of disease. WHAT?!?!

So black people can be racist to white people as well. She just assumed I was racist because I'm white and me dropping the change into her hand rather than touching her hand.

I'm going on way too long on this subject. It's just I can't stand it. Sometimes who you are goes deeper than your skin color or where your from. Be proud to be whatever race you are or wherever your from. But it's ridiculous to persecute others just because they are different.

Anyway. I'm done! lol. I'll shut up now.


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