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Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:00 am ]
Post subject:  Whats considered Satanic?
hey you guys, once again i am in the quest for knowledge of the means of the occult and trying to understand why people think certain things are satanic or not.

Rock, RolePlaying, And KISS, are they satanic to you? if so, why?
what about anything else that has been burned in a bonfire next to Harry Potter books? what other things can you recall that are like theese things that people think is satanic? anyone?

EDIT: this thread is now about all things that some extreamists may think that is satanic. not only about rock, roleplaying and kiss, its about all things that are satanic or not, okay? gewd? gewd.
Author:  Ofelix [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:29 am ]
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Okaayyy, I'm a tabletop roleplaying game fan, I *love* Metal Music (Currently I'm listenning some Children of Bodom) I read Harry Potter, and to make thing worse I play video game. So seriously do I looks like Satanic to you? That's what I though. Being Satanic assume rejecting all thing good, love, life, and mostly all Catholic dogma (Or any other Christian belief and or Church). I think the things said above are not against life or anything else.

Some Metal music might get some inspiration in Satanic belief, such as Craddle of Filth and many other I won't add (out of pure lazyness :kot:). But in general I don't think metal music can badly influence people. This subject if touchy but know NOT all Metal band has Satanic influence and certainly NOT Mettalica. They are a mainstream, comercial ''metal'' band and has nothing to do with underground band. Who, in my oppinion, are true ''metal band''

Dungeon and Dragon, in the 80s was said to be satanic because you had the option to play a cleric and or Priest of a different dogma than christian, so some Catholic priest said D&D forced you to renounce god. Also *They* said D&D gave you instruction on how to cast black magic.
Yeah right, like I'll gonna cast magic missile for real I could dig up the internet link with all the crappy '' A christian playing D&D will be lead to evil'' if you want.

Harry potter burned? WTF? That book encouraged millions of kid to grab a book and read! It's pure genius!

You have not listed it but hey video games get basshed all the time so here I go! NO video games does NOT make people violent. Prof? If you search a little you'll find that a report from the FBI shows that each years since the comming of the original Play Station, youth (14 and younger) crime has decrease significiantly. People complain that kid has acces to ''mature'' game too easily. yeahhhh riiiiight Some stores, (i.e Wall Mart) simply does not sale Mature games. While other store require you to give prof of your age before selling the said mature game. It's the parent who simply doesn't bother to read to labble on product, I mean if a game clearly says Mature, 17+ then maybe you shouldn't buy this for your 12 years old kid. People freak out when in games you see Violence and sex. Hey Just type '' Free sex '' in Google and voila! You'll have like ten time to level of sex found in video game. Violent video game? What about all those crappy violent movies about anybody can rent in a blockbuster?

KISS? KISS are scary not Satanic. Ughh Can't understand what people find in KISS other than pure madness and the crapiest costume. EVER

Rock and Roll? Yeah right, The Beatle All you need is love... Beatle are a rock and roll band you know?

Faces it, all this crap about Satanism is crappy and Girls who play video games are hot.
Author:  Beyond the Grave [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:34 am ]
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Ofelix wrote:
KISS? KISS are scary not Satanic. Ughh Can't understand what people find in KISS other than pure madness and the crapiest costume. EVER
The Religious Right used to say that KISS stood for Knights In Satan's Service. They weren't the only band the did this to. AC/DC was "supposed" to mean "Anti-Christ/Devil's Child".
Author:  Ofelix [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:56 am ]
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The Religious Right used to say that KISS stood for Knights In Satan's Service. They weren't the only band the did this to. AC/DC was "supposed" to mean "Anti-Christ/Devil's Child".


/me check his AC/DC calendar, What Angus ain't no devil...
AC/DC's music is sooooo goooodd!

[SARCASM]

Ohh and did you knew Ofelix stood for ''Of Fanstatical Evil Living In Xenophobia'' did you?

[/SARCASM]

I still find that KISS are scary looking
Author:  Parlod [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:06 am ]
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Beyond the Grave wrote:
Ofelix wrote:
KISS? KISS are scary not Satanic. Ughh Can't understand what people find in KISS other than pure madness and the crapiest costume. EVER
The Religious Right used to say that KISS stood for Knights In Satan's Service. They weren't the only band the did this to. AC/DC was "supposed" to mean "Anti-Christ/Devil's Child".

I heard somewhere that Rush stands for Rise Under Satan's Hand. I listen to a lot of their music, and it most certainly isn't Satanic.
Just my two cents.
Author:  Beyond the Grave [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:11 am ]
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wheresmycottage wrote:
Beyond the Grave wrote:
Ofelix wrote:
KISS? KISS are scary not Satanic. Ughh Can't understand what people find in KISS other than pure madness and the crapiest costume. EVER
The Religious Right used to say that KISS stood for Knights In Satan's Service. They weren't the only band the did this to. AC/DC was "supposed" to mean "Anti-Christ/Devil's Child".

I heard somewhere that Rush stands for Rise Under Satan's Hand. I listen to a lot of their music, and it most certainly isn't Satanic.
Just my two cents.
The lead singer of Slayer used to joke that slayer stood for "Satan Laughs As You Eternally Rot"

I can understand why some people think that metal is Satanic. It is dark, mysterious, foreboding and sometime demonic. The only band that I can remember that was rumored to have engaged in Satanism was Led Zepplin.
Author:  extremejon09 [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:15 am ]
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Beyond the Grave wrote:
Ofelix wrote:
KISS? KISS are scary not Satanic. Ughh Can't understand what people find in KISS other than pure madness and the crapiest costume. EVER
The Religious Right used to say that KISS stood for Knights In Satan's Service. They weren't the only band the did this to. AC/DC was "supposed" to mean "Anti-Christ/Devil's Child".


...What? Lol seriously, AC/DC is are types of batterys. Why do they not accuse batterys of being Satanic...
*Laughs for about 5 minutes at the thought of satanic Batterys.*
Ok.
Rock is not Satanic. Except when it IS BLATENTLY satanic. Whats with the Scapegoats?
Roleplaying: What? Magic? It isent real fool. No need to fear your children learning to casts from the text "Magic Missle causes 12d damage to a single enemy with in 3 spaces". Besides, isent the old cliche of magic involveing a long complicated ritual involveing Circles...and Latin...And sacraficeing goats...Like some kid is going to know thats what 12d means.


And Y'know what? So what if there satanic? Isent america about Freedom of Religion? Besides, I think Satanism Teaches Good fundamentals.

Besides, Im pretty sure in years long gone by im sure parent were o sovery afraid that Satanists were going to Kill there little ones. Nope, In satanism Children Killings a Sin, alongside Killing of animals, so there goes that ol' cliche.
Author:  Ofelix [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:19 am ]
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"Magic Missle causes 12d damage to a single enemy with in 3 spaces"
Dude Magic Missile does 1d4+1 per two levels to a maximum of 5d4+5. You're soo like GEEK'D.... Yeah I'm D&D Geek

:p :)

Seriously I don't know, Parent fear many thing will get their so precious kid growing to be madmens/womens Hey I'm mad, so what?
Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:21 am ]
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Beyond the Grave wrote:
The only band that I can remember that was rumored to have engaged in Satanism was Led Zepplin.


well actually.... it wasnt all of Led Zeppelin, just Jimmy Page bought the Beasts (Alister Crowley) old house in spain. Jimmy is a pagan, and isnt really satanic.

extremejon09 wrote:
And Y'know what? So what if there satanic? Isent america about Freedom of Religion? Besides, I think Satanism Teaches Good fundamentals.


well, that is...well..err...kinda true, i do belive that Stupidity is a sin, but i guess i am gonna burn in hell because im,weelll, stupid.
Author:  Ofelix [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:30 am ]
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well, that is...well..err...kinda true, i do belive that Stupidity is a sin, but i guess i am gonna burn in hell because im,weelll, stupid.
Dude you're out of luck... But hey I ain't better I mean I had sex before marriage with a girl who wasn't christian. I'm SOOO going to hell.

Also the three true language of god are, Latin, Hebrew, and Acient Greek. So if you do not speak any of it you're doomed.

Jimmy Page is A Pagan? Didn't know that one.
Author:  Didymus [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:41 am ]
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Actually, that's Koine Greek, not Ancient Greek. And you left out Aramaic.
Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:41 am ]
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Ofelix wrote:
Dude you're out of luck... But hey I ain't better I mean I had sex before marriage with a girl who wasn't christian. I'm SOOO going to hell.



err.... thats not something you wanna say here, and also, yes, Jimmy Page is pagan.
Author:  Mr.KISS [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:00 am ]
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NO, no, no ,no ,no,no,no,no!!! As BTG said in the seventies Southerners used to think KISS stood for Knights in satans service. This most likely happened because of Gene Simmons stage character (the demon). Rock is not Satanic, it just pumps you up and spreads messges of stickin' it to the man. So, of course religeous folks were like "Hey I dont like this how can we get sweet little billy to stop?" So they called it evil and hoped for the best. Unfortuanatly this just made Billy want to listen to Rock more (see "Detroit Rock City". It was a movie from '99 about 4 kids trying to go see a KISS concert. In it one of 'em tells those religeous types what the for reeal deal is). Harry Potter is actually accepted by the catholic religeon (and you know what us catholics can be like...) becasue it shows good triumphing over evil. As for D&D I dont care (HYPOCRITICAL'D).

In closeing saying any product of any kind is "for the devil" is just useless jabs at popular products that dont really agree with religeon. So...ya...
Author:  Jenny [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:38 am ]
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You know this reminds me of something I talked about with my roommate...

I asked her if she ever watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and she said her parents wouldn't let her watch those kind of shows. She went on to list X Files and some other Sci Fi shows as banned from the family TV set... yet when I jokingly remarked about how she always watches doctor shows like Nip Tuck, Grey's Anatomy, ER, vet shows on Animal Planet (or even court shows too... CSI and stuff)... she said her parents always let her watch them. "Always" meaning she's been watching those type of shows since gradeschool (I asked). This freaks me out, cuz most of the stuff they have on those shows is REALLY adult (or just nasty gory) material and there is no way that a kid should be watching that stuff IF the parents don't allow the viewing of sci fi shows.

If you are gonna ban one, ban them all. Don't take it out on the sci fi shows that heaven forbid actually EXPAND your imagination (a part of the human brain I believe was neglected terribly during the turn of the millenium when I was still in school... but I can't complain now because of Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings... JK Rowling saved a generation of young imaginations). To me, seeing some lady on an operating table with half the skin on her face peeled aside, or some docter digging around in a dog's intestines, is just as damaging to a child as a bug eyed alien.

I don't like it when people mix up imagination with something evil. You notice that D&D is also heavily imagination based, and that's hit on a lot too. I have been playing D&D since I was old enough to roll a twenty sided dice (ok, I exaggerated, I was seven). It taught me skills like teamwork and mediation and problem solving... and (ugh) even math. How is that evil? (ok the math is evil, but everything else...)

That's my rant. It's a touchy topic... so I won't even GO into my video games... which reminds me...

Quote:
Girls who play video games are hot.

heh heh
Author:  Ofelix [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:16 am ]
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I asked her if she ever watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and she said her parents wouldn't let her watch those kind of shows. She went on to list X Files and some other Sci Fi shows as banned from the family TV set... yet when I jokingly remarked about how she always watches doctor shows like Nip Tuck, Grey's Anatomy, ER, vet shows on Animal Planet (or even court shows too... CSI and stuff)... she said her parents always let her watch them. "Always" meaning she's been watching those type of shows since gradeschool (I asked). This freaks me out, cuz most of the stuff they have on those shows is REALLY adult (or just nasty gory) material and there is no way that a kid should be watching that stuff IF the parents don't allow the viewing of sci fi shows.

If you are gonna ban one, ban them all. Don't take it out on the sci fi shows that heaven forbid actually EXPAND your imagination (a part of the human brain I believe was neglected terribly during the turn of the millenium when I was still in school... but I can't complain now because of Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings... JK Rowling saved a generation of young imaginations). To me, seeing some lady on an operating table with half the skin on her face peeled aside, or some docter digging around in a dog's intestines, is just as damaging to a child as a bug eyed alien.


Yup but instead don't ban T.V show because they are aimed at a mature audiance, they are aimed at a mature audiance. But I'm just a leftist social democrat smelling hippie, so of course my oppinion has no value, I mean c'mon I'm broke and I study art at college. How can I be more wrong compared to the real and genius capitalist who swin in pool of money, or pool money for themselve or whatever.
Author:  Smorky [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:17 pm ]
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While we're on the topic of "satanic" things, does anyone know why people used to think that Pokemon was satanic?
Author:  Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:45 pm ]
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Choc-o-lardiac Arrest wrote:
Beyond the Grave wrote:
The only band that I can remember that was rumored to have engaged in Satanism was Led Zepplin.


well actually.... it wasnt all of Led Zeppelin, just Jimmy Page bought the Beasts (Alister Crowley) old house in spain. Jimmy is a pagan, and isnt really satanic.

extremejon09 wrote:
And Y'know what? So what if there satanic? Isent america about Freedom of Religion? Besides, I think Satanism Teaches Good fundamentals.


well, that is...well..err...kinda true, i do belive that Stupidity is a sin, but i guess i am gonna burn in hell because im,weelll, stupid.


I think the only reason that was thought in the first place is because Jimmy Page used heaven in a lot of his songs (Stairway to Heaven, Houses of the Holy, ect.) and somebody mistook his meaning as "I'm writing about Heaven a lot because I'll never get there". Methinks it was a bible junkie who origionally concieved that thought.
Author:  DESTROY US ALL! [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:18 pm ]
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I always thought AC/DC was Alternating Current/Dedicated Current
Rock and Roll is in no way Satanic, some people who play it are, but not most. KISS? Just a bunch of money hungrey Jewish dudes. Showmen. If you are looking for satanic media look at all those teen-pop idols who sld there soul for money. HOW ELSE WOULD THEY SELL RECORDS?
Author:  Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kiss, Metalica, Dungeons&Drgons: Satanic?
Choc-o-lardiac Arrest wrote:
hey you guys, once again i am in the quest for knowledge of the means of the occult and trying to understand why people think certain things are satanic or not.

Rock, RolePlaying, And KISS, are they satanic to you? if so, why?
what about anything else that has been burned in a bonfire next to Harry Potter books? what other things can you recall that are like theese things that people think is satanic? anyone?


But we shouldn't ingnore the metal bands that *happen* to be satanic. Case in point: King Diamond
Author:  Mr.KISS [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:52 pm ]
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destroy_us_all wrote:
KISS? Just a bunch of money hungrey Jewish dudes. Showmen. If you are looking for satanic media look at all those teen-pop idols who sld there soul for money. HOW ELSE WOULD THEY SELL RECORDS?



Ahem... Money hungry jewish dudes? Only Gene is the only Jew in the group. But I will agree they were a bit over marketed (KISS toothpaste?) But still, once you get atleast on gold record go ahead and bash them all you like but until then...>:(

Atleast you were able to mention those carbon copy teen idols in all those pre teen magazines.
Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:56 pm ]
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Smorky wrote:
While we're on the topic of "satanic" things, does anyone know why people used to think that Pokemon was satanic?


i think it was because you could capture beasts and summon them from your magic ball.

Prof. Tor Coolguy wrote:
I think the only reason that was thought in the first place is because Jimmy Page used heaven in a lot of his songs (Stairway to Heaven, Houses of the Holy, ect.) and somebody mistook his meaning as "I'm writing about Heaven a lot because I'll never get there". Methinks it was a bible junkie who origionally concieved that thought.


Actually, as i said before, Jimmy Page IS Pagan and he Did buy The Beasts(Alister Crowley) old home in spain. he has been practicing magic and was offered a position as a High Priest in The Church Of Satan, but he turnd Anton LaVey down. there also was a rumor among the Pagan community that he was working on a Tarot Card Deck of his own design.
Author:  Ofelix [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:22 pm ]
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he has been practicing magic and was offered a position as a High Priest in The Church Of Satan


Freak, real freak...

I agree though KISS are over marketed money hunger not Satanic.
Author:  Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:35 pm ]
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Choc-o-lardiac Arrest wrote:
Smorky wrote:
While we're on the topic of "satanic" things, does anyone know why people used to think that Pokemon was satanic?


i think it was because you could capture beasts and summon them from your magic ball.

Prof. Tor Coolguy wrote:
I think the only reason that was thought in the first place is because Jimmy Page used heaven in a lot of his songs (Stairway to Heaven, Houses of the Holy, ect.) and somebody mistook his meaning as "I'm writing about Heaven a lot because I'll never get there". Methinks it was a bible junkie who origionally concieved that thought.


Actually, as i said before, Jimmy Page IS Pagan and he Did buy The Beasts(Alister Crowley) old home in spain. he has been practicing magic and was offered a position as a High Priest in The Church Of Satan, but he turnd Anton LaVey down. there also was a rumor among the Pagan community that he was working on a Tarot Card Deck of his own design.


I was never saying he wasn't Pagan, I was just giving possible reason (I saw it on VH1) to why people could have thought he was satanic.
Author:  SEAN'D! [ Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:26 am ]
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destroy_us_all wrote:
I always thought AC/DC was Alternating Current/Dedicated Current

That's because it does.
Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:42 am ]
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Prof. Tor Coolguy wrote:
I was never saying he wasn't Pagan, I was just giving possible reason (I saw it on VH1) to why people could have thought he was satanic.


ahh, okay. either that or extreamist christians/Catholics think that paganism is satanic.
Author:  extremejon09 [ Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:46 am ]
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About Harry Potter, My Uber-Catholic freind (Like, the kind that will hold a grudge against you for a week if you say "God" out of proper context) Wasent Allowed to read Harry Potter until like a year ago Because his parents apparently thought all the spells were based off old Druid rituals involveing the sacrficeing of Children and BLAH BLAH!

Pokemon Being called Satanic? Thats just madness. But Yu-Gi-Oh! I can understand. I mean...I love the art, I think it has some of the best card ive seen. But The church nearby banned them. I can see why. I mean...the gothic art style...Rituals...the many Creepy monsters...and in particular "Doma: Angel of Silence" which apparenly was waay to close to being a satan reference. My Freinds step dad (Not christen) gave him a deck of Yugioh and He !BURNED THEM! because his church told him they were evil. I was like "What the heck man? I wanted one of those!" and he told me I'd go to hell and etc...and I'm like "Good thing I'm not christen Eh?"
Author:  Didymus [ Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:55 am ]
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Druid rituals? Funny, all the spells I remember reading in HP were simple Latin phrases. And where do these come from? The Roman Catholic Church! Now isn't that hilarious? (in fact, the word Hocus Pocus is actually derived from Hoc Est Corpus, "This is my Body," from the blessed sacrament).

And Christen is way cuter than you anyway. I haven't even met her and I know that.
Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:11 am ]
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extremejon09 wrote:
Because his parents apparently thought all the spells were based off old Druid rituals involveing the sacrficeing of Children and BLAH BLAH!

his Step dad gave him a deck of Yugioh and He !BURNED THEM! because his church told him they were evil.


okay, on the Druid Rituals thing.........

No Druid Ritual that i can recall states something like "you must endow the holy Mage with the Power to Extend the Exotic Blade Into the Heart of The new Born Adolecent" or anything like that, but i gotta re-check my sources.

As for burninating that Yugioh deck....... oi, i bet you anything that there was at least 1 Exodia Set in there. good money down the tubes.
Author:  DeadGaySon [ Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:29 pm ]
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I think I'm going to bring my little sister into this one...

Terrible, terrible taste in music. She spends all of her time listening to Avril Lavigne and Hilary Duff, and sticks her noses in those stupid magazines and refeses to go into a book store unless there's a starbucks in it. Her imagination is completely fried. Whenever I have good music playing on the computer, she asks me to turn it down. She actually called Jackson Browne bad country one time. And hates Elton John

Now if that's not satanic, I don't know what is. The poor child is so limited now!!

ON the flip side, Harry Potter made millions of kids read books that are hundreds of pages long. Dungeons and Dragons teaches problem solving, patience, math, teamwork, ect. Everyone knows that music boosts creativityand intelligence, and much of the time even improves your mood (case in point, What a Wonderful World- Louis Armstrong). Pure goodness!!!
Author:  Hi Guys [ Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:55 pm ]
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I always considered the Devil to be satanic. Maybe that's just me.
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