If this is anything like the "we never landed on the moon" conspiracy theory, it should be worth a laugh. Too bad I have to go to class and can't watch it.
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| Author: | ZealousDemon [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:07 am ] |
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http://novakeo.com/?p=262 http://novakeo.com/?p=263 Takes about 45minutes to an hour. I had dismissed alot of the conspiracy theories before, but there's simply too many things that this video pointed out that is making me think otherwise. Seven of the eight blackboxes destroyed? Explosions occuring below the falling roof? The third building collapsing simply because it caught fire? A plane crashes into the pentegon and only creates a 16-foot hole? |
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| Author: | porplemontage [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:25 am ] |
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Holy cow. Watch both videos. That's some crazy stuff. |
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| Author: | Mr.KISS [ Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:11 am ] |
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woah man, Ive considered this in the past but this is really "strong". |
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| Author: | JoeyDay [ Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:45 pm ] |
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I've watched the documentary and some of the video evidence seems quite convincing. I still haven't cast my verdict on this one, but one thing is bothering me. None of this seems to add up. If there were explosives planted in the buildings to cause them to collapse inward on themselves like a demolition, why would the planes need to carry missiles? It seems that if the government were really doing all this they would've covered their tracks better. Why install something so obvious on the bottom of the planes? If they wanted to make it look like a bunch of guys flew some planes into some buildings, why didn't they just hire a bunch of guys to fly some planes into some buildings? Why go to all the expense (not to mention risk) of rigging explosives and attaching missiles to the planes? |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:17 pm ] |
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There really IS a JoeyDay. I was beginning to think you were just a figment of the Admin's imaginations, a way of keeping us forum goers under their greasy little thumbs. Toastpaint! I remember seeing these films before. I also remember reading an essay on why they were total bunk. |
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| Author: | the_stolker [ Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:23 pm ] |
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wow this video is really trippy and i am only about 1/8 of the way thru! wow... [edit] Wow after watching that i am speachless... I am a little confused as to if this was staged, Why? good documentery tho. |
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| Author: | JoeyDay [ Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:54 am ] |
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Didymus wrote: I also remember reading an essay on why they were total bunk.
Was it something like this? Popular Mechanics took up the charge to debunk the conspiracy theorists, purportedly consulting 70 professionals in fields including "aviation, engineering and the military." I'm working my way through the article right now. I still haven't come to any personal conclusions, but the evidence is starting to stack up on the other side now. EDIT: Here is another good article debunking the claims that the Pentagon was hit by a missle or some kind of smaller jet. The guy does a pretty good job of showing the debris and damage pattern are actually from a 757. |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:04 am ] |
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T. Stolker wrote: wow this video is really trippy and i am only about 1/8 of the way thru!
wow... [edit] Wow after watching that i am speachless... I am a little confused as to if this was staged, Why? good documentery tho. Because George Bush wanted to invade Afghanistan so he could "capture" hundreds of "enemy combatants" who are actually trained americans, take them to Cuba and have them "escape" and kill Castro. Then, he would link the attacks to Iraq, so he could invade them for oil. Or something like that... Popular Mechanics DID do a great job of debunking the theories presented in all of the "9/11 was staged" sites, though. |
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| Author: | Professor No [ Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:40 pm ] |
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I watched the first part of the first video(the clips of the inital hits on the towers). I agree that these "explosions" did occur before the planes hit, but each of the aircraft are traveling at hundreds of mph, the force of the air extends the impact of the hit. I hope you get the point I'am trying to make, the force of the speeding air around the nose hits the building before the airplane. Explosions under the falling floor, remember each plane was full of jet fuel. The jet fuel traveled down the elevator shafts in most likely hood causing other explosions. The terrorist designed the attack this way, they studied the structure of the twin towers to determine their strategy. Watch a show on I think it was TLC,9/11:Anatomy of a Disaster(or something like that) it explains how the towers fell from the attacks.I notice on the top of the page with the video on it, that the banner stated the site was "Antiwar" and "Antistate", wonder why they like the idea of a 9/11 goverment conspiracy? |
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| Author: | ZealousDemon [ Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:28 am ] |
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If there is any strong peice of evidence that would have me believe against the conclusion of this video, it's the mental capabilities of our president. In my mind, Bush is simply not capable of being involved in a highly organized government conspiracy to garner support, especially in about what was it, 10 months after the election? |
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| Author: | PianoManGidley [ Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:41 pm ] |
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Reviving this thread to alert people that there's a second edition of this documentary, about 81 minutes long. |
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| Author: | lahimatoa [ Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:46 pm ] |
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Quote: If there is any strong peice of evidence that would have me believe against the conclusion of this video, it's the mental capabilities of our president.
You know, if I were president, I'm not sure that I would mind being thought of as a fool. Less pressure that way, and your enemies will always underestimate you. Whether you think Bush, Jr. is stupid or not, the man was elected President of the United States TWICE. |
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| Author: | Ju Ju Master [ Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:53 pm ] |
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I haven't watched the documenteries, but come on, would the government really kill thousands of civilians to get support? Or for anything, for that matter. No matter how crazy or evil you think Bush is, I am sure that this wasn't done on purpose. It just doesn't make sense. |
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| Author: | Code J [ Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:32 pm ] |
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Interesting, not quite sure what to think of it right now, but interesting nonetheless. Very well done, though. And the parts about the titainium engine and Bin Laden were particularily good. |
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| Author: | sb_enail.com [ Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:02 pm ] |
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If this is anything like the "we never landed on the moon" conspiracy theory, it should be worth a laugh. Too bad I have to go to class and can't watch it.
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:48 pm ] |
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I just find it funny that people who claim to be logical can believe such wild things. It seems that, if the Government was involved, the planning would have had to start well before Bush took office. Even then, I honestly doubt he (or almost anyone in his staff) would be able to pull something like this off. He's doing bad enough managing an open war. I can only imagine how badly he'd fail at waging a war against his own people. *What's this? StrongRad speaking badly of the President? Yes. You read that right. George Mason made the Final Four. Anything's possible.* |
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