It's so interesting to me how uncomfortable this makes people.
"What? God requires us to actually follow some rules to go to heaven? That's crazy talk! We should all go if we want!"
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| Author: | Shippinator Mandy [ Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:41 pm ] |
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Didymus wrote: Christmas Rose wrote: I don't consider them christians. I consider them evil fundies. Finally! Something you and I can agree on. (and no, I'm not being sarcastic, either) Yeah. They certainly aren't being very Christlike, what with their hatred of pretty much everyone except their fellow evil fundies. |
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| Author: | TrogdorTSL [ Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:03 am ] |
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Catholic all the way! I'm way into religion, and i go to church every Sunday. i know alot of people dont understand the Catholic religion, so if you have questions pm me, i'll be happy to explain. |
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| Author: | smeghead [ Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:03 pm ] |
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Classified as Protestant but since I'm Materialist I find it quite offensive some times. |
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| Author: | Kittie Rose [ Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:08 pm ] |
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smeghead wrote: Classified as Protestant but since I'm Materialist I find it quite offensive some times.
Materialist? |
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| Author: | smeghead [ Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:15 pm ] |
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Christmas Rose wrote: smeghead wrote: Classified as Protestant but since I'm Materialist I find it quite offensive some times. Materialist? Sorry, mistranslation from my side. It sounds better in my native language. I think the correct translation is "Materialistic atheist" |
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| Author: | Kittie Rose [ Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:07 pm ] |
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It still sounds mistranslated. In english, "Materialism" is something negative; valuing physical wealth over things like friends, love, and respect. |
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| Author: | BobTheFish [ Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:36 am ] |
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I don't really know. My church is a nice mix of various ones really. |
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| Author: | Cobalt [ Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:29 am ] |
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i think the term you're looking for is "physicalist." it used to be commonly called "materialist" as well, but "physicalist" is more common these days precisely due to the negative connotations of "materialist." |
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| Author: | Super Sam [ Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:09 pm ] |
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Well, I'm Christian. No specific denomination or anything. It's all Christian in the end. |
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| Author: | lahimatoa [ Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:11 pm ] |
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Quote: Well, I'm Christian. No specific denomination or anything. It's all Christian in the end.
So... the fact that all denominations of Christianity have differing doctrines doesn't bother you at all? |
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| Author: | Kittie Rose [ Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:46 pm ] |
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He probably has his own takes and beliefs on Xianity, just believes in Jesus in general and all that. I don't see what's wrong with that, it's much better than trying to stick to a set "ism". |
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| Author: | Douglas [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:41 pm ] |
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Well, as long as everything a Christian believes is confirmed in the Bible, and that he/she believes that the Bible is the Word of God, then it's all good. For example, some United churches, which say that they're Christian, have taken to women pastors. The Bible states that men are meant not be the leaders in the church. (Check out 1 Timothy 3, if you question that.) So, one must question just how "Christian" these types of United churches are... but that discussion's for another thread... I think I've said this before, but my denomination is AGC; it stands for Associated Gospel Churches of Canada. |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:53 pm ] |
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lahimatoa wrote: Quote: Well, I'm Christian. No specific denomination or anything. It's all Christian in the end. So... the fact that all denominations of Christianity have differing doctrines doesn't bother you at all? I've always felt that denominations were introduced by Satan; you know, the old "divide and conquer" strategy. |
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| Author: | lahimatoa [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:36 pm ] |
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Quote: I've always felt that denominations were introduced by Satan; you know, the old "divide and conquer" strategy. So you're comfortable with joining a denomination that was introduced by Satan? Wow. Quote: Well, as long as everything a Christian believes is confirmed in the Bible, and that he/she believes that the Bible is the Word of God, then it's all good.
Tough standard. You realize that everyone's been fighting over the collection of writings known as "The Bible" for centuries, right? Interpretations of scripture differ so much it's been apparently impossible to come to a consensus on many issues. |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:08 pm ] |
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lahimatoa wrote: Quote: I've always felt that denominations were introduced by Satan; you know, the old "divide and conquer" strategy. So you're comfortable with joining a denomination that was introduced by Satan? Wow. This is something I came to about a year ago after seeing how the Methodists in my family reacted when my grandmother was baptized in a Baptist church. Everyone is supposed to be on the same side, yet they were fighting like nobody's business. I was like, "What Gives?!" If you go by what you were baptized as, I'm baptist ( and the church I go to at home calls themselves Baptist, as they are closer to that than anything else, but they're still far from some baptists I've seen), but, if someone asks me, I'm a Christian.. |
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| Author: | lahimatoa [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:31 pm ] |
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So what are your personal requirements for exaltation? What do you base them off of? |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:40 pm ] |
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You've lost me with that question.. Can you put it in "dumb person's" terms? |
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| Author: | lahimatoa [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:43 pm ] |
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Sorry, didn't mean to go all technical on you. What do you feel you need do to get to heaven? |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:57 pm ] |
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Acts 2:38-39 Romans 10:9-11 John 3:15-18 Ephesians 2:8-10 |
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| Author: | lahimatoa [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:00 pm ] |
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Didymus, I assume you belong to a certain Christian denomination. My question is directed to StrongRad, who believes that all denominations are the same. |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:03 pm ] |
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lahimatoa wrote: Sorry, didn't mean to go all technical on you.
What do you feel you need do to get to heaven? Although this is a bit vague, I've always believe in "A,B,C".. Ask God to forgive your sins Believe that God is God and that his son Jesus was sent to earth to die for your sins, and was resurrected on the 3rd day Confess that God is God, and that he is Lord of all... Something like that, anyway.. I also believe you have to be baptized.. What that means, specifically, is something that's up for debate. I think that, if you have the intention of being baptized, and someone does it, then, any method will probably suffice... |
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| Author: | lahimatoa [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:05 pm ] |
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Seems rather vague... To ask the question in a different light, what do you believe God wants you to do to go to heaven? |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:09 pm ] |
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lahimatoa wrote: Seems rather vague...
To ask the question in a different light, what do you believe God wants you to do to go to heaven? Essentially, those things. Recognize Him, repent of my sins, worship, and defend my religion/witness to those around me. Like I said, it's a little vague, mainly because salvation seems to be an individual based thing.. |
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| Author: | lahimatoa [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:18 pm ] |
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Quote: Essentially, those things. Recognize Him, repent of my sins, worship, and defend my religion/witness to those around me. No baptism? Quote: Like I said, it's a little vague, mainly because salvation seems to be an individual based thing..
What do you mean by that, exactly? |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:33 pm ] |
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lahimatoa wrote: Quote: Essentially, those things. Recognize Him, repent of my sins, worship, and defend my religion/witness to those around me. No baptism? Quote: Like I said, it's a little vague, mainly because salvation seems to be an individual based thing.. What do you mean by that, exactly? Well, yeah, baptism, too... I said that in the earlier post, it just didn't make it in that post for some reason.. As for individual salvation, I just mean that I think that each person has their own relationship with God.. |
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| Author: | lahimatoa [ Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:56 pm ] |
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Quote: Well, yeah, baptism, too...
Okay, so any Christian denomination that didn't include baptism (or any of the other things you listed) are wrong, then? |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:59 pm ] |
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lahimatoa wrote: Quote: Well, yeah, baptism, too... Okay, so any Christian denomination that didn't include baptism (or any of the other things you listed) are wrong, then? It's like you're putting words in my mouth.. Of course, like I said, those things are all kinda vague, even the baptism, so it's not a "narrow path" to being "right".. |
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| Author: | lahimatoa [ Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:09 pm ] |
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Matthew Chapter 7 wrote: 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Oh, and Matthew was quoting Jesus there. |
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| Author: | lahimatoa [ Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:08 pm ] |
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It's so interesting to me how uncomfortable this makes people. "What? God requires us to actually follow some rules to go to heaven? That's crazy talk! We should all go if we want!"
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:18 pm ] |
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lahimatoa wrote: Matthew Chapter 7 wrote: 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Oh, and Matthew was quoting Jesus there. Yes, the way IS narrow.. It's Jesus. Not gonna argue you there.. The WHOLE KEY, if you will, to salvation is Jesus.. |
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