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Author:  Beyond the Grave [ Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:18 am ]
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The preist isn't going to ask you about your denomination. He just wans you to purge your soul of sin.
Author:  Jitka [ Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:15 am ]
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Personally, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to go into a confessional to talk to a priest, but I'm not really sure. I know Confession is a Sacrament of the Catholic church, so I'm not really sure what the criteria is to get it. I don't know that there'd be a problem, though. Why don't you talk to the priest nearest you and see what the deal is. If you can't go into the confessional, I'm sure he'd still be willing to talk with you. It's their job to help people, after all.

Good luck.
Author:  IantheGecko [ Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:39 am ]
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The reason why I wouldn't go to a Confessional is because I'm a Protestant-don't believe in formally going to one when I can do it right here.

My biggest issues are trust, fear, & judgment. I'm afraid of telling anyone in the flesh about this huge problem I have because of I'm afraid of being judged; I simply don't trust anyone "in person" about telling them about my problem.
Author:  Jitka [ Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:49 am ]
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A priest's job isn't to judge you, it's his job to help you. Just talk to someone. A guidance counselor, a priest, your pastor, a trusted friend, your parents, whoever you can trust. I think talking to someone, getting your problem out there in the open, is an important step.
Author:  IantheGecko [ Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:43 pm ]
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That's the thing-I don't know who do trust. If you knew what this problem I'm struggling with was, you wouldn't trust anyone, either.
Author:  Douglas [ Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:06 pm ]
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Ian, I read what your wrote on DeviantArt, there, and I can empathize with your loneliness. I was without any friends for several years, and last summer, I just snapped. I broke down and cried in my bedroom. But Jesus has really helped me since then, and I've gotten to know one orr two people really well.

The best advice I can give you is to take your problem to God, and ask him to help you fix it and even to overcome your fear. You might also want to talk to your pastor in confidentiality once you're ready.

I'm praying for ya, man.
Author:  IantheGecko [ Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:57 pm ]
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Thanks, Dougie! :mrgreen:

If you really want to know what my problem is, pm or e-mail me.

Toast paint: Do Catholics & Protestants for the most part get along? I go to a multi-denominational (as in Baptists, Catholics, Presbyterians, etc.) church, & everyone there seems to be pretty happy with one another.

BTW, sorry about the transsubstantation/"taste" thing. It was an afterthought from a [bad] Dane Cook joke.
Author:  Jitka [ Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:04 pm ]
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IantheGecko wrote:
Toast paint: Do Catholics & Protestants for the most part get along? I go to a multi-denominational (as in Baptists, Catholics, Presbyterians, etc.) church, & everyone there seems to be pretty happy with one another.


Sure they do. With the exceptions of lunatics like Jack Chick or the administration of Bob Jones University, and I'm sure there's also some rabidly anti-Protestant Catholics out there, Catholics and other denominations get along just fine.

In fact, here's an good article about it.
Author:  Kittie Rose [ Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:33 pm ]
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Packages, Boxes, or Bags wrote:
IantheGecko wrote:
Toast paint: Do Catholics & Protestants for the most part get along? I go to a multi-denominational (as in Baptists, Catholics, Presbyterians, etc.) church, & everyone there seems to be pretty happy with one another.


Sure they do. With the exceptions of lunatics like Jack Chick or the administration of Bob Jones University, and I'm sure there's also some rabidly anti-Protestant Catholics out there, Catholics and other denominations get along just fine.

In fact, here's an good article about it.


... unless of course you're Irish like me, then reading this post stinks of all kinds of stupid.
Author:  Jitka [ Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:38 pm ]
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I don't know how it is in Ireland, but where I live there's no conflict between denominations of Christianity.

We're like one big Coke commercial.
Author:  StrongRad [ Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:40 pm ]
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Christmas Rose wrote:
Packages, Boxes, or Bags wrote:
IantheGecko wrote:
Toast paint: Do Catholics & Protestants for the most part get along? I go to a multi-denominational (as in Baptists, Catholics, Presbyterians, etc.) church, & everyone there seems to be pretty happy with one another.


Sure they do. With the exceptions of lunatics like Jack Chick or the administration of Bob Jones University, and I'm sure there's also some rabidly anti-Protestant Catholics out there, Catholics and other denominations get along just fine.

In fact, here's an good article about it.


... unless of course you're Irish like me, then reading this post stinks of all kinds of stupid.

What are you talking about?

The IRA?

They fall under the category of "lunatics"...

Most Protestants and Catholics I know seem to get along rather well, as well they should. They are, after all, "on the same side".
Author:  Kittie Rose [ Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:48 pm ]
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Well, over here, there's still a lot of bad blood, and it really is stupid. It's not so much nowadays, but a few years ago when I was back in school people were being fed anti-"Proddy" rubbish.
Author:  IantheGecko [ Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:55 pm ]
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Just curious, Rosie. What part of Ireland are you from? Funky & Jonn-E are from teh North.
Author:  Mr.KISS [ Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:21 am ]
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Christmas Rose wrote:
Well, over here, there's still a lot of bad blood, and it really is stupid. It's not so much nowadays, but a few years ago when I was back in school people were being fed anti-"Proddy" rubbish.


It's like that where I live too. Not so much in Halifax itself but in around places (especially Sheet Harbour) there's alot of people who bash Prod's as well.
Author:  Kittie Rose [ Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:27 am ]
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IantheGecko wrote:
Just curious, Rosie. What part of Ireland are you from? Funky & Jonn-E are from teh North.


Southwest. But nowhere is that far away in Ireland... it only seems like more because of the bad roads.
Author:  goodlovindude [ Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:22 am ]
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so i go to a catholic school and all, and my religion teacher told me last year that if i ever wanted to spend a good night out on the town, i should hold a debate about politics and religion with some people of differing view points, grab some beer, and watch them kill each other.

i've always wanted to try it.
Author:  TrogdorTSL [ Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:14 pm ]
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i'm a catholic, and i cant find anythign wrong with my religion. I see that the discusion has drifted from topic, since the first few people took care of this very nicely...
Author:  Kevin DuBrow [ Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:23 pm ]
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My opinion: Catholicism is too religious on the fact that you can't do anything wrong intsead of helping people become Christians or better Christians. They aren't trying to help anybody because they are too caught up in all of their rituals that they don't notice when somebody is in trouble.
Author:  TrogdorTSL [ Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:43 pm ]
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Kevin DuBrow wrote:
My opinion: Catholicism is too religious on the fact that you can't do anything wrong intsead of helping people become Christians or better Christians. They aren't trying to help anybody because they are too caught up in all of their rituals that they don't notice when somebody is in trouble.



haha...u just like...wow...

you said Catholicism is too religios...its a religion buddy, its supposed to be religious.

There isnt anythnign about not doing anything wrong. i have no clue what ur talking about. if ur talking about that fact that Catholics try not to sin, that would make no sense, since all christians believe that sinning is wrong. And if you are more concerned about making people believe in God then not sinning, that makes no sense. if you believe in God, but you dont follow God's teachings, then you can still go to heck. it doesnt matter how much you believe in Him if you dont listen. And Catholics do try to help people believe. I do that all the time.

Catholics help people...i dont know what ur talking about there....i help people every day... you are way off base man. when u dont understand something you should ask instead of critisize.
Author:  Clan rHrN [ Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:44 pm ]
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God lets you into Heaven if you're a good little boy or girl, so be good.
I'm a Catholic myself, so I know.
Author:  TrogdorTSL [ Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:47 pm ]
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Clan rHrN wrote:
God lets you into Heaven if you're a good little boy or girl, so be good.
I'm a Catholic myself, so I know.


yea, i am too...if u didnt pick up on that already...
Author:  IantheGecko [ Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:48 pm ]
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So, Clan, maybe you should follow that example.

Toast paint!
Author:  Acekirby [ Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:35 am ]
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Clan rHrN wrote:
God lets you into Heaven if you're a good little boy or girl, so be good.
I'm a Catholic myself, so I know.

Somehow, I really doubt that the workings of God are as simple as that.
Author:  IantheGecko [ Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:40 am ]
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Ace is totally right; just look up John 3:16. See why you should pay attention, Clan?
Author:  ed 'lim' smilde [ Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:58 am ]
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Or Titus 3:5.
Author:  Douglas [ Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:38 pm ]
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Okay, sorry to bump this, but I have a question.

Why do Catholics practice infant baptism?
Author:  Mr.KISS [ Sun Jan 29, 2006 9:51 pm ]
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Douglas wrote:
Okay, sorry to bump this, but I have a question.

Why do Catholics practice infant baptism?


So they can be forgiven original sin or some limbo thing or something like that. In sunday school the teachers always had different answers for that one.
Author:  IantheGecko [ Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:00 pm ]
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Well, as one of the other threads reported, looks like limbo is outta there.
Author:  Didymus [ Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:26 pm ]
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I may not be able to speak for Roman Catholics, but I can speak for Lutherans: Acts 2:38-39. The benefits of Baptism are for children as well as adults. We Lutherans baptize children so as to offer the child to God, that he might mark them as his. We believe that forgiveness, cleansing, and new birth are available in Baptism, even for children.

But think about it: why is it that some people believe that children should not be baptized? Wouldn't you want that baptismal grace to be available to your children?
Author:  lahimatoa [ Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:37 am ]
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I may not be able to speak for Roman Catholics, but I can speak for Lutherans: Acts 2:38-39. The benefits of Baptism are for children as well as adults. We Lutherans baptize children so as to offer the child to God, that he might mark them as his. We believe that forgiveness, cleansing, and new birth are available in Baptism, even for children.

But think about it: why is it that some people believe that children should not be baptized? Wouldn't you want that baptismal grace to be available to your children?


I will answer your question and then pose one to you:

I believe children should not be baptized because they have not committed sin. Baptism is for redemtpion of sins. Little children do not have the knowledge to be accountable for sin, therefore they are clean before the Lord without having to be cleansed.

Now my question: What happens to infants that are not baptized and then die?
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