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A friend of mine recently committed suicide, and it got me thinking,'What happens when you commit suicide?" I'm wondering this from a spiritual point of view. I know that the Church used to say that it was a mortal sin, but now has said that a person is not in their right mind at the time they sommit suicide. What I want to know is, what do you think happens? I know that we have a few members of the church that belong here, so I want to know what they think.

I heard something like they get eternal damnation.
Um...maybe I shouldn't have said that!

I could give you the Jewish standpoint

The act or an instance of intentionally killing oneself.

I don't think it matters the reasons for killing yourself, it's still considered suicide.

I am very sorry about your friend, ramrod. But, what made his life so bad that he killed himself?

There's also ritual suicide, like hari kari

Shopiom wrote:

I am very sorry about your friend, ramrod. But, what made his life so bad that he killed himself?

He was going through a lot of stress. And right before he died he had a huge argument with his dad, which got him kicked out of the house. He was a cool guy too. He was the one that no-one would ever expect to die so young.

I've contemplated (and actually attempted) suicide before, and I've never gotten a clear, solid answer if I'm going to hell if it actually works,

Author:	ramrod [ Sun Jan 30, 2005 4:19 pm ]
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A friend of mine recently committed suicide, and it got me thinking,'What happens when you commit suicide?" I'm wondering this from a spiritual point of view. I know that the Church used to say that it was a mortal sin, but now has said that a person is not in their right mind at the time they sommit suicide. What I want to know is, what do you think happens? I know that we have a few members of the church that belong here, so I want to know what they think.

Author:	Didymus [ Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:33 pm ]
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I cannot answer that question. I do not know the condition of your friend's soul at the time of his death. Nor does the Bible itself give an ultimatum on it. I do not believe that God's mercy will exclude a person on the sole basis of a suicide, though (although I wouldn't push that point with someone considering suicide at the time). Most of the arguments are based on prohibitions of murder, but even murder can be forgiven (just ask King David and the Apostle Paul, both murderers who repented and were forgiven). I am deeply sorry about your friend. I cannot imagine what grief you must be feeling right now. Just know this: whatever else, God himself, the same one who wept at Lazarus' tomb, also feels your grief.

Author:	So and So [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:46 am ]
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ramrod wrote: A friend of mine recently committed suicide, and it got me thinking,'What happens when you commit suicide?" I'm wondering this from a spiritual point of view. I know that the Church used to say that it was a mortal sin, but now has said that a person is not in their right mind at the time they sommit suicide. What I want to know is, what do you think happens? I know that we have a few members of the church that belong here, so I want to know what they think. I don't know for sure, but if you like, I could give you the Jewish standpoint... Very sorry to hear that, btw.

Author:	Jerome [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:43 am ]
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ramrod wrote: A friend of mine recently committed suicide, and it got me thinking,'What happens when you commit suicide?" I'm wondering this from a spiritual point of view. I know that the Church used to say that it was a mortal sin, but now has said that a person is not in their right mind at the time they sommit suicide. What I want to know is, what do you think happens? I know that we have a few members of the church that belong here, so I want to know what they think. Damn, sorry to hear that. Personally, I reckon what happens to people who commit suicide is the exact same thing that happens to everyone else.

Author:	Discount Brick [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:47 am ]
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I heard something like they get eternal damnation. Um...maybe I shouldn't have said that!

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Author:	Jerome [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:59 am ]
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Discount Brick wrote: I heard something like they get eternal damnation. Um...maybe I shouldn't have said that! No. You shouldn't have.

Author:	ramrod [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:22 am ]
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Discount Brick wrote: I heard something like they get eternal damnation. Um...maybe I shouldn't have said that! Yeah, that's what The Church used to state, but now they've changed their teachings.

Author:	Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:27 am ]
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man thats just sad. its so sad, im not gonna try to put anything funny in this post. in my view, you would go to purgetory.

Author:	Evin290 [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:05 am ]
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So and So wrote: I could give you the Jewish standpoint What is the Jewish standpoint? I never learned about suicide in Hebrew school.

Author:	Beyond the Grave [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:10 am ]
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the only jew that i ever heard commit suicide was Judas Iscariot.

Author:	Discount Brick [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:11 am ]
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Who?

Author:	Evin290 [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:13 am ]
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Yeah, what are you talking about? I'm sure there's more than one Jewish person on earth that has committed suicide...

Author:	Didymus [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:13 am ]
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What about King Saul? My Hebrew professsor in college argued that Samson committed suicide, but in my own thinking, he was more of a martyr than a typical suicide. That is, he sacrificed himself to protect his people. That's different than killing yourself because you don't want to live anymore. Judas Iscariot was the disciple that betrayed Jesus to the Temple authorities. When he realized that the Temple authorities were going to kill him, he killed himself out of shame.

Author:	Evin290 [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:15 am ]
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The Dictionary wrote: The act or an instance of intentionally killing oneself. I don't think it matters the reasons for killing yourself, it's still considered suicide.

Author:	Simon Zeno [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:36 am ]
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My condolences...

Author:	Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:05 pm ]
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I get that felling with some of my friends too, you see all the dateline specials about a kid that burned so bright and ended up fizzleing out because of drugs or stress or other stuff.

Author:	IantheGecko [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:01 pm ]
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It's not like I've stabbed or shot myself or anything. Just attempts to suffocate myself in my bed, & swallowing a buncha toothpaste (CONTACT POISON CONTROL IMMEDIATELY). Stupid methods, nothing serious. Wow. Feebleness. Maybe that means that I'm really not taking suicide so seriously.

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Author:	Didymus [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:21 am ]
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evin290 wrote: I don't think it matters the reasons for killing yourself, it's still considered suicide. It does matter. Some guy who overdoses on pills because he can't stand the pressures of everyday life is entirely different from the guy who singlehandedly takes out an enemy army and dies in the process. Besides, you might want to take a look at that word "typical" in there.

Author:	Evin290 [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:23 am ]
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But it didn't say "typically involving not wanting to live anymore" it just said "intentionally killing oneself." I'll just say that Sampson was a martyr who committed suicide.

Author:	Shopiom [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:28 am ]
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I am very sorry about your friend, ramrod. But, what made his life so bad that he killed himself?

Author:	ramrod [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:42 pm ]
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Shopiom wrote: I am very sorry about your friend, ramrod. But, what made his life so bad that he killed himself? He was going through a lot of stress. And right before he died he had a huge argument with his dad, which got him kicked out of the house. He was a cool guy too. He was the one that no-one would ever expect to die so young.

Author:	No Toppings [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:25 pm ]
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Prof. Tor Coolguy wrote: There's also ritual suicide, like hari kari Thats more like suicide for dishonor. Like when you break a promise sworn by Hara Kiri. Sorry bout your friend Ramrod...

Author:	Beyond the Grave [ Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:36 pm ]
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ramrod wrote: Shopiom wrote: I am very sorry about your friend, ramrod. But, what made his life so bad that he killed himself? He was going through a lot of stress. And right before he died he had a huge argument with his dad, which got him kicked out of the house. He was a cool guy too. He was the one that no-one would ever expect to die so young. this guy was The most laid back person you could ever meet. It seemed like any problem he had would just slide off his sholders.

Author:	IantheGecko [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:46 pm ]
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I've contemplated (and actually attempted) suicide before, and I've never gotten a clear, solid answer if I'm going to hell if it actually works,

Author:	StrongRad [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:50 pm ]
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IantheGecko wrote: I've contemplated (and actually attempted) suicide before, and I've never gotten a clear, solid answer if I'm going to hell if it actually works, If there's any doubt as to your ultimate destination, I would advise against suicide. Actually, I advise against it, anyway. Nothing is so bad that you should commit suicide. NOTHING.

Author:	Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:50 pm ]
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IantheGecko wrote: I've contemplated (and actually attempted) suicide before, and I've never gotten a clear, solid answer if I'm going to hell if it actually works, what the hell??? i thought you differed from me completley!

Author:	Marshmallow Roast [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:02 pm ]
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Leaving the earth by suicide is no different to me from leaving it any other way. God wouldn't treat someone who committed suicide any differently than someone who died unintentionally. Personally, I was suicidal a while back, and I'm not ruling it out as a future option if things get worse than they were.

Author:	Kevin DuBrow [ Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:05 pm ]
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Ramrod, BTG, first of all I would like to say that I am very sorry for your friend. My opinion is that if the person believed in God, then he will forgive him. Many people in the Bible like David committed sins and they were forgiven. I think your friend will be in Heaven if he was saved.