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Most definately not. But I would think that he would consider the alternative with the threat of UN sanctioned force if he didn't comply (which was there, just not backed up by anyone but a few countries: us, uk, etc..).

Perhaps if we hadn't have made the Al Qaeda claim

There are still Americans who believe that Saddam was somehow responsible for 9/11.

"I wasn't handcuffed or anything like that. They treated me very well. The one positive thing I can say is that a lot of security officers are very pleased because they got my autograph."

Yes, but what would his State of the Unions be like?

:rolleyes: That was unbearably lame. I understand that things have to be simplified a bit to fit in a comic, but seriously. Yeah, boxing is just like Iraq -- except that in boxing, 1,000 boxers don't die every three years, nor do 13,000 spectators. Oh, and a boxer's motivation to stay in the fight to make a living and maintain his pride, and maybe get rich and/or famous. What's our motivation to stay in the fight? Well, pride is in the for the Bushies. Profit is there for them, too, Dick especially. So I guess it is just like boxing, and we should totally stay in it for those reasons. I mean, we don't want Bush to have to admit he made a mistake, or for Dick to have to buy a used Lexus. Even if it means another thousand soldiers and another ten thousand civilians have to die, and we have to spend another hundred billion dollars. "Remember what you're fighting for!"

It's a little too late to do any good, but finally!

"As soon as the sanctions were lifted, he had every intention of going back" to his weapons program

If fox is all you have, I question it.

Plus their legitimacy as a non-biased news source has been questioned because one of their analyists is now working for the fuhrer.

That's a valid point. I'm waiting for other sources to pick up on it, too.

I hate to break it to you, but there is no such thing as a non-biased news source. Some are more biased than others, but a 100% unbiased news source? Not possible.

Author:	InterruptorJones [ Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:14 pm ]
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Stu wrote: Most definately not. But I would think that he would consider the alternative with the threat of UN sanctioned force if he didn't comply (which was there, just not backed up by anyone but a few countries: us, uk, etc..). Well, this guy was a fascist dictator. His entire modus operandi was to look powerful in the face of his subjects. Maybe he thought letting the inspectors in would be taken by his subjects as a sign of weakness. Or maybe it was just pride. We all know the guy has a massive ego. Or maybe, and this is getting a little tin-foil-hat, I admit, but maybe he wanted the U.S. to invade. Maybe he had deluded himself into believing that he could win, and so he figured if the U.S. invaded it would make the Iraqi people hate the U.S. (which, in large part, it has), and that he could then beat them back and become a hero to the people. Saddam is clearly not a rational person, so he could have any number of reasons that couldn't be justified from any point of view other than that of a desperate, tyrranical dictator.

Author:	Stu [ Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:16 pm ]
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Agreed. It is just a shame that things have turned out the way they have.

Author:	StrongRad [ Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:29 pm ]
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most definately. I wish we could have had more international help. Perhaps if we hadn't have made the Al Qaeda claim, which even I (as a "let's get them terrorist peoples" person) questioned, we could have gotten more help from the UN. Something definately needed to be done, but I think more people needed to do it. I have doubts as to whether or not a UN force would have been able to do it. From what my roommate has said about K-For in Kosovo (he served in Kosovo), it seems unlikely. He had a lot of bad things to say about how things were handled there. I think that having the Russians and Germans in the force, as well as, say Egypt (didn't they help in Desert Storm?) would have been very helpful.

Author:	InterruptorJones [ Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:10 am ]
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StrongRad wrote: Perhaps if we hadn't have made the Al Qaeda claim If Bush hadn't made the Al Qaeda claim, we could have had any claims to make. And if he hadn't made the Al Qaeda claim, the American people and the Senate wouldn't have backed him. The American people only backed the Iraq war because they were still hungry for vengeance after 9/11, and the White House convinced them that Saddam had something to do with it. There are still Americans who believe that Saddam was somehow responsible for 9/11.

Author:	Didymus [ Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:14 am ]
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The UN's primary purpose is to preserve peace. For that reason, you can't really trust that they will send in troops in any given situation, even if the situation warrants it. However, it was clear to me at the time (and even clearer to me now) that the US was rushing into Iraq far too quickly for anybody's good. There were no WMD's, but everyone was convinced that there were. There was no Al Qaeda connection, but in most people's minds, "Alladem dangol towel heads is all da same, innyhow." The plain and simple truth is that we should have waited.

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Author:	StrongRad [ Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:57 am ]
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Interruptor Jones wrote: There are still Americans who believe that Saddam was somehow responsible for 9/11. I had my doubts about Saddam/911 on 9-11. My first thought was that it was another domestic attack, like OKC. There are a lot of full-blown, supercharged 12-cylinder wacko-loons in this country, and I figured that some of them had done it. I really wish things would have turned out different. A multinational coalition, like the last Iraq war, would have been a lot better, and would have probably fixed a lot of the problems we're having now. If only things were that simple. The pure and simple truth is we should have waited, I won't deny that, but in the words of Oscar Wilde "The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and is never simple."[/quote]

Author:	InterruptorJones [ Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:57 pm ]
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Read an interesting tidbit today. As many of you know, on August 10 George W. Bush nominated Florida Rep. Porter Goss to head the CIA. But not six months prior, Goss himself said, "I couldn't get a job with CIA today. I am not qualified." Smooth move, Bush. Way to strenghten the intelligency community.

Author:	Didymus [ Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:32 am ]
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A Breakthrough in the War on Terror! That's right, the United States, ever vigilant against the threat of terrorist attack, prevented the pop singer and peace advocate Cat Stevens from carrying out his evil plots of...well, whatever it is that pop singers and peace advocates do to further the cause of terrorism. Read all about it here!

Author:	InterruptorJones [ Wed Sep 22, 2004 5:06 pm ]
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In the words of the blog where I found this link: "If even one tenth of this is true, it should be an international scandal." War on Terror my butt.

Author:	TURKEY [ Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:15 pm ]
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Apparantly they did that because Yusuf Islam is a wanted terrorist. But come on! Do you think there is one more Yusuf Islam out there? Who didn't write Moonshadow?

Author:	Didymus [ Thu Sep 23, 2004 12:34 pm ]
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What's he gonna do, sing us to death? If so, then why aren't they going after Michael Bolton? That man terrifies me more than anything.

Author:	TURKEY [ Thu Sep 23, 2004 12:47 pm ]
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Cat Stevens wrote: "I wasn't handcuffed or anything like that. They treated me very well. The one positive thing I can say is that a lot of security officers are very pleased because they got my autograph."

Author:	Didymus [ Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:23 am ]
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Well at least they didn't treat him like a criminal. But I still have to wonder, what kind of security threat did they think he was? On his web site, he openly denounces terrorism and terrorist activities such as the 9-11 bombings and the recent kidnappings in Iraq. He is a staunch peace advocate. Personally, I think that certain people thought he might speak out in favor of peace in Iraq, and that certain people in high positions thought that it would hurt their public image.

Author:	Didymus [ Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:50 pm ]
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While we're at it, let's add one more nation to the list of terrorists: Israel. That's right. I'm going to say it. The nation of Israel uses terrorist tactics. Just read this article: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040926/ap_on_re_mi_ea/syria_palestinians_13 So when should be plan to invade Israel and subjugate them for their terrorist activities? I mean, when the Al-Qaida does things like this, it's not okay. Why should it be okay when Israel does it?

Author:	InterruptorJones [ Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:36 pm ]
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An article written by an Army NCO in Iraq: Why We Cannot Win.

Author:	Didymus [ Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:02 am ]
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Vote: The Popular Search Engine Google for President!

Author:	InterruptorJones [ Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:36 pm ]
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Things are not improving in Iraq, no matter how much you smirk about it. An entire platoon of reservists has been arrested because they refused to go on what they believed was a suicide mission. They were to be sent into an area using "deadlined" trucks -- vehicles deemed extremely unsafe and unable to top 40 miles per hour -- and believed that there was a 99% chance that they would be ambushed and be unable to defend themselves. So here's what we're doing in Iraq: We're ordering our troops to drive unsafe vehicles into ambushes, and then arresting them when they point out that it's suicide. We're about to top 1,100 U.S. troop deaths. Thirty-four have died in the past two weeks alone. And it's getting worse.

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Author:	thefreakyblueman [ Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:53 pm ]
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That's amazing. I'm guessing they're just pulling out the "they did it, so we can too" thing.

Author:	Didymus [ Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:59 pm ]
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Probably. But here's the interesting part. The car bomb was set in Syria. By international law, those who set the bomb should be tried for murder in Syria. What do you think are the odds of that happening? Furthermore, by carrying out the attack on Syrian soil, it could be considered an act of aggression. Syria, if it wanted to, could legally declare war on Israel. And yes, there were some innocent victims involved, too.

Author:	racerx_is_alive [ Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:54 pm ]
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http://cagle.slate.msn.com/working/040929/sheneman00.gif Political cartoon about Bush and Cat Stevens. And just to remain fair and balanced, one about Bush and Kerry slanted the other way. http://www.cagle.com/working/040928/asay.gif

Author:	InterruptorJones [ Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:15 pm ]
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racerx_is_alive wrote: http://www.cagle.com/working/040928/asay.gif That was unbearably lame. I understand that things have to be simplified a bit to fit in a comic, but seriously. Yeah, boxing is just like Iraq -- except that in boxing, 1,000 boxers don't die every three years, nor do 13,000 spectators. Oh, and a boxer's motivation to stay in the fight to make a living and maintain his pride, and maybe get rich and/or famous. What's our motivation to stay in the fight? Well, pride is in the for the Bushies. Profit is there for them, too, Dick especially. So I guess it is just like boxing, and we should totally stay in it for those reasons. I mean, we don't want Bush to have to admit he made a mistake, or for Dick to have to buy a used Lexus. Even if it means another thousand soldiers and another ten thousand civilians have to die, and we have to spend another hundred billion dollars. "Remember what you're fighting for!"

Author:	fahooglewitz1077 [ Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:16 am ]
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Yes, but what would his State of the Unions be like?

Author:	Didymus [ Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:57 am ]
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fahooglewitz1077 wrote: Yes, but what would his State of the Unions be like? Just click HERE to find out!

Author:	Didymus [ Fri Oct 08, 2004 5:07 am ]
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It's a little too late to do any good, but finally! http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041008/ap_on_re_mi_ea/us_iraq_weapons&cid=540&ncid=716

Author:	Stu [ Fri Oct 08, 2004 1:48 pm ]
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InterruptorJones wrote: :rolleyes: That was unbearably lame. I understand that things have to be simplified a bit to fit in a comic, but seriously. Yeah, boxing is just like Iraq -- except that in boxing, 1,000 boxers don't die every three years, nor do 13,000 spectators. Oh, and a boxer's motivation to stay in the fight to make a living and maintain his pride, and maybe get rich and/or famous. What's our motivation to stay in the fight? Well, pride is in the for the Bushies. Profit is there for them, too, Dick especially. So I guess it is just like boxing, and we should totally stay in it for those reasons. I mean, we don't want Bush to have to admit he made a mistake, or for Dick to have to buy a used Lexus. Even if it means another thousand soldiers and another ten thousand civilians have to die, and we have to spend another hundred billion dollars. "Remember what you're fighting for!" Lame, yes. Unbearably lame, hardly. (Or if that is the case then you need to say something about the Bush toon as well). I think all of these political cartoons are (for lack of better words) lame. As long as you take them for what they are (some artists attempt to gain some attention by poking fun at serious matters), then they are manageable. But if you are going to tear into the anti-Kerry one, you need to at least mention the Bush one. Personally, I have a difficult time believing that Bush sits there in his office with a yellow legal pad and pencil, checking off all of his "victories? in office. Sure, we haven't completed the first 5 tasks on that list, the keyword being completed. I feel that for the most part, progress is being made in all of them. I really don't care to get into it too much though. The same arguments will be rehashed (and I don't think either side will be persuaded to switch). I just want to know what's going to happen in Iraq. Quote: It's a little too late to do any good, but finally! This seems almost a little late. Kinda like the kid, who gets caught with chocalate all over his face, admitting that he stole the cookies. I would like to think that this is the administrations way of saying we made a mistake, and we won't do it again. I have trouble believing that though. If they (the admins) didn't go to war for wmd's, then what did we go to war for? Again, I like to think it was for reasons like this: Dick Cheney wrote: "As soon as the sanctions were lifted, he had every intention of going back" to his weapons program That does frighten me. Sanctions don't last forever. More often they seem to hurt the people they are designed to protect. Guys like Sadaam have ways of getting around them. So I feel that these sanctions wouldn't last forever. If the admins intelligence was accurate (another reason to be skepitcal), then I feel that removing him from power would be justified. I don't really want to kick any dead horses, and this post is getting way too long. Dontcha think? One last question. In your post you commented on what type of car Cheney drives, my question is what type(s) of car(s) do Kerry and Edwards drive. I am googling it, but not having much luck.

Author:	lahimatoa [ Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:37 am ]
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WMDs found in Iraq.

Author:	DeathlyPallor [ Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:49 am ]
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Fox News? Nah... I don't trust US news sources. I haven't for quite some time. When I post speculations, I post multiple sources. If fox is all you have, I question it. Plus their legitimacy as a non-biased news source has been questioned because one of their analyists is now working for the fuhrer.

Author:	lahimatoa [ Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:52 am ]
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Quote: If fox is all you have, I question it. That's a valid point. I'm waiting for other sources to pick up on it, too. Quote: Plus their legitimacy as a non-biased news source has been questioned because one of their analyists is now working for the fuhrer. I hate to break it to you, but there is no such thing as a non-biased news source. Some are more biased than others, but a 100% unbiased news source? Not possible.

Author:	Didymus [ Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:16 am ]
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One interesting aspect of the article is that, according to their source, these are not the weapons the US were looking for, but appear to be a leftover cashe from before the first Gulf War.

Author:	DeathlyPallor [ Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:18 am ]
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Quote: That's a valid point. I'm waiting for other sources to pick up on it, too. I doubt anyone will. Plus, government officials are known to lie often, so until I get solid evidence, I will still spit upon them. To me, it looks like they are trying to make excuses for this. Plus, since the US already went there and screwed things up and made more people angry, it is their responsibility to clean up their mess and leave. Quote: I hate to break it to you, but there is no such thing as a non-biased news source. Some are more biased than others, but a 100% unbiased news source? Not possible. I already knew this. That is why I go to multiple sources.