The Experimental Film wrote:
Christmas Rose wrote:
Actually, "Santa presents" are very much the tradition of Christmas and part of it's "original true meaning", before it was called "Christmas". I know your person version of it has other meanings, but just so you know that people who do the presents thing are just as much embracing the "true meaning" as your own personal "True meaning".

True meaning. As in, "Jesus".
Something tells me that in MY OWN RELIGION, I usually know what is more important than other things.
Jesus > Santa.
But you said the true meaning of Christmas, whose origins are not Christian, and not of "your own religion". Exchanging presents in and around the 25th of December way predates jesus. I don't really think you read a word I said past a certain point, but if you did you're becoming
very pushy.
The true meaning of Christmas is most certainly
not Jesus on the global scale of things, only the meaning your religion gives it. The original "Christ" (meaning Messiah, and by extension a number of things) in Christmas, not literally speaking of course, was the Sun God who was "reborn" as the Sun started to rear it's head again. "Christmas" is the name that is most associated with this holiday today, but it does not mean that the "True meaning" of it is to celebrate the birth of Jesus when the holiday existed under different names where it's original true meaning was to do with celebrating the "return" of the sun; exchanging gifts and having festivals.
Most Christmas traditions have pre-christian and even pre-judaist origin. I'm just tired of people saying the true meaning of Christmas is Christianity.
I mean, it's pretty much the same blasted holiday across nearly all religions and cultures in this modern day and age, it's for everyone and that's how we still celebrate it in Ireland.
So please don't claim any one secular thing as the "true meaning" of Christmas. It means something different for everyone. Santa Claus, on a grand scale of things, does mean more to people than Jesus as Christmas. Despite the fact that he had somewhat Christian origins, the actual character doesn't really have any notable features that can be attributed to any particular religion.
So Jesus !> Santa.