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We all know that CN didn't agree, and didn't put it on TV. Ignoring the fact that it was the worst idea ever, what would 30-min eppys be like? Homestar only has SMALL toons. This probably has to do with "space" and ect. A full-length movie would be cool. What do you think?

I think a Homestar movie would be coull, but it would have to be more like a 30-minute movie than a 1 1/2 hour movie. Plus, it would have to be on the site, 'cause I don't want TBC putting Homestar on TV, too sell-outy.

No full length movie.. Trust me. You don't want that.

l33t interview, circa 2001:

MIKE CHAPMAN: We are hoping to make Cartoon Network kick themselves in the *** for passing on us.

When did Cartoon Network say no to Homestar Runner? I wasn't aware that Mike and Matt even wanted to do a Homestar TV show..

l33t interview, circa 2001:

MIKE CHAPMAN: We are hoping to make Cartoon Network kick themselves in the *** for passing on us.

Mucha Lucha and Happy Tree Friends and Friends are enough flash on TV for me.

Shishu Hiwatari wrote:

Mucha Lucha and Happy Tree Friends and Friends are enough flash on TV for me.

I wasn't aware that Mucha Lucha started off as flash.

I also think that too much editing would be involved in order to put it on CN. The children that watch CN are simple. Do you think they would understand all the inside jokes made involving the 80's and drugs, etc.?

you see.... what makes hoemstarrunner cool is that they havent sold out and when you go strolling into school one day carrying a Trogdor bag, a trogdor hat and a trogdor t-shirt, you want people to say "whered u get that stuff?" and you say "ohh, you mean you dont have this stuff?".

its cool because not verry many people know of it, so were all bassically the Minority of cartoons. you see, when happy tree freinds sold out to hot topic, it stopped being cool because the average Skater punk goth rocker would go in, buy stuff, then when you come to school and everyone is wearing the stuff, they will all call you a poser for trying to like homestarrunner. ive seen this stuff happen before, remember Family Guy????? now everyone knows about it, and everyone loves it, it was cool when they didnt have toys to sell.

Kevin DuBrow wrote:

If they were to put it in Adult Swim, the audience would understand.

If they can get all the references in a show like ATHF or Family Guy, they'd be able to handle H*R.

Though I don't know if putting it on TV would be that great of an idea. They'd run out of inspiration awfully quick, I imagine.

I just hate how, when someone makes a penny at something they do, they're "sellouts".

I doubt they'd put it on Adult Swim anyway. They couldn't even get Naruto on there.

its only selling out when your product does go on sale in a mall or soemthing, and then everyone else you know starts buying the stuff, and then sooner or later it ends up like Pokemon, or Yugioh cards; Sucking to high heaven when everyone buys the stuff. its just because of fads, i think. but a tv show, No.

I think they should make it a short. Like, on Nicktoons TV, they have these half-minute cartoons called "Doodlez" and "The Entertainers". If they could do that with H*R, then I guess that would work, since TBC are already making shorts anyway. And back to what Choc-O-Lardiac Arrest said, then it still wouldn't change H*R's "well-known-ness", since the majority of people in this world have no idea who "The Entertainers" are, or what "Doodlez" are doodles of.

Author:	peter4ever0 [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:20 am ]
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We all know that CN didn't agree, and didn't put it on TV. Ignoring the fact that it was the worst idea ever, what would 30-min eppys be like? Homestar only has SMALL toons. This probably has to do with "space" and ect. A full-length movie would be cool. What do you think?

Author:	Kevin DuBrow [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:27 am ]
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I think a HSR movie would be cool. BUT, the movie would have to be a Scary movie type of movie. Like Homestar would be in front of a tv, and the lights would flicker and shut off, and he would turn around and say, "They're hewe."(obvious spoof of the movie Poltergeist(God rest the girl's soul)).

Author:	StrongRad [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:31 am ]
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peter4ever0 wrote: We all know that CN didn't agree, and didn't put it on TV. Ignoring the fact that it was the worst idea ever, what would 30-min eppys be like? Homestar only has SMALL toons. This probably has to do with "space" and ect. A full-length movie would be cool. What do you think? No full length movie.. Trust me. You don't want that. When did Cartoon Network say no to Homestar Runner? I wasn't aware that Mike and Matt even wanted to do a Homestar TV show..

Author:	Homeschool Winner [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:42 am ]
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I think a Homestar movie would be coull, but it would have to be more like a 30-minute movie than a 1 1/2 hour movie. Plus, it would have to be on the site, 'cause I don't want TBC putting Homestar on TV, too sell-outy.

Author:	Tuquee: frozen in tim-- [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:36 am ]
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Homeschool Winner wrote: I think a Homestar movie would be coull, but it would have to be more like a 30-minute movie than a 1 1/2 hour movie. Plus, it would have to be on the site, 'cause I don't want TBC putting Homestar on TV, too sell-outy. Or maybe on DVD! (Where's a Larry Palaroncini emoticon when you need it?)

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Author:	ramrod [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 4:55 am ]
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StrongRad wrote: No full length movie.. Trust me. You don't want that. Yeah, exacylt like I was gonna say. Just because something's good as a cartoon or something small like that (Sponge Bob) doesn't mean it'll make a great movie. Like Strong Bad said " Too much of an awesome thing is a really crappy thing."

Author:	Shishu Hiwatari [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:35 am ]
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peter4ever0 wrote: We all know that CN didn't agree, and didn't put it on TV. Ignoring the fact that it was the worst idea ever, what would 30-min eppys be like? Homestar only has SMALL toons. This probably has to do with "space" and ect. A full-length movie would be cool. What do you think? Mike and Matt were DEFINITELY the ones who said no to Cartoon Network. 30-minute episodes would just be dragging on, and get kind of annoying. There isn't an actual plot to Homestar Runner, it's just different segments with the characters every week or so. It's not a kids cartoon to be aired on TV. It isn't full of expletives and stuff, but it's not exactly FCC friendly either. I'd fear severe, uncessary editing, as well it being demeaned, like so many others on CN. I like Homestar where it is. Mucha Lucha and Happy Tree Friends and Friends are enough flash on TV for me.

Author:	Joshua [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:59 am ]
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l33t interview, circa 2001: MIKE CHAPMAN: We are hoping to make Cartoon Network kick themselves in the *** for passing on us.

Author:	Ju Ju Master [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:56 pm ]
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Joshua wrote: l33t interview, circa 2001: MIKE CHAPMAN: We are hoping to make Cartoon Network kick themselves in the *** for passing on us. That's surprising, as in all olf the other interveiws I've read, they don't want H^R to be a tv show.

Author:	Joshua [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:59 pm ]
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Well, as I said, that was way back in 2001. They're human. They change their minds. A while ago they didn't want their work on a DVD.

Author:	StrongRad [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 6:07 pm ]
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StrongRad wrote: When did Cartoon Network say no to Homestar Runner? I wasn't aware that Mike and Matt even wanted to do a Homestar TV show.. Joshua wrote: l33t interview, circa 2001: MIKE CHAPMAN: We are hoping to make Cartoon Network kick themselves in the *** for passing on us. I stand corrected. Proof that not being aware of something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Author:	Black Metal [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 6:37 pm ]
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I think that if Cartoon Network did make it, then it would've only lasted one season, and most of us here probably wouldn't of liked it. I'm not saying it couldn't have been executed well, I'm just saying that the thought of Homestar Runner being on television just kind of makes it seem less cool. Shishu Hiwatari wrote: Mucha Lucha and Happy Tree Friends and Friends are enough flash on TV for me. I wasn't aware that Mucha Lucha started off as flash.

Author:	Acekirby [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 6:40 pm ]
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Black Metal wrote: Shishu Hiwatari wrote: Mucha Lucha and Happy Tree Friends and Friends are enough flash on TV for me. I wasn't aware that Mucha Lucha started off as flash. Well, they use Flash to make it.

Author:	Kevin DuBrow [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:46 am ]
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I also think that too much editing would be involved in order to put it on CN. The children that watch CN are simple. Do you think they would understand all the inside jokes made involving the 80's and drugs, etc.?

Author:	Bookworm [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:44 am ]
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Ooh... selling out is evil. Please, Bros., keep off T.V.! I lost my faith in movie producers with product placement. How can I look anyone in the face if you sell out, too? (I hope they read that impassioned declaration. Maybe it'll convince them. ) No, but seriously, I think a movie would get stale pretty quick. But who knows, the Bros. might find a way to make it funny! I mean, they are pretty smart. Also, slightly off the subject, I didn't know that Happy Tree Friends was on T.V. I guess I should spend more hours on the cartoon channels. Mostly we just watch Sci-Fi and TV Land. (Best channel evarrrr!!!!!)

Author:	Encountering Gremlins [ Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:39 am ]
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Concerning the "sell out" issue, it's only a sell out to me if the artistic value of HR (or whatever is used as an example for this discussion, whether it be a band, TV show, etc.) is negatively compromised for the sake of more money and popularity - it's possible to have a compromise yield positive results. Of course, that's a subjective way of putting it, but I can't imagine anything BUT negative compromising resulting from HR being on TV, since that takes TBC completely out of the regular format they're used to, and I can't see the results being as wonderful as they are in short toons/E-mails format. For the record, I think Green Day's first two indie label albums from before they hit it big were somewhat ehhh, and that American Idiot is far and away their best work, but what do I know?

Author:	Strange Magic [ Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:06 am ]
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Isn't selling out like, as an example, TBC adding a giant Taco Bell taco as a new main character, having all the characters wear shirts with the Taco Bell logo on them, and having them all talk about how great Taco Bell is for an entire toon, all to just get money from Taco Bell? Or is that called something else?

Author:	Phlip [ Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:16 am ]
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That is one kind, yes, called "Product placement". But basically any deal that benefits TBC directly (usually with money or similar) but means that HR loses quality comes under the heading of "selling out". But a deal that benefits TBC directly without damaging HR is not selling out. If TBC can find a way of keeping their toons a consistant length (rather than the current policy of "it ends when it's over") and deliver them regularly, and still stay as funny as it is now, then by all means sell it to some network and reap the benefits. It wouldn't be selling out, since H*R wouldn't suffer. However given the way the site works now this situation seems unlikely, and any shift to a TV-oid medium would degrade the toons, so it would be selling out. Of course "quality" and "better/worse" are subjective, so whether something counts as selling out is also subjective.

Author:	Jitka [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:51 am ]
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Kevin DuBrow wrote: I also think that too much editing would be involved in order to put it on CN. The children that watch CN are simple. Do you think they would understand all the inside jokes made involving the 80's and drugs, etc.? If they were to put it in Adult Swim, the audience would understand. If they can get all the references in a show like ATHF or Family Guy, they'd be able to handle H*R. Though I don't know if putting it on TV would be that great of an idea. They'd run out of inspiration awfully quick, I imagine.

Author:	Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:05 am ]
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you see.... what makes hoemstarrunner cool is that they havent sold out and when you go strolling into school one day carrying a Trogdor bag, a trogdor hat and a trogdor t-shirt, you want people to say "whered u get that stuff?" and you say "ohh, you mean you dont have this stuff?". its cool because not verry many people know of it, so were all bassically the Minority of cartoons. you see, when happy tree freinds sold out to hot topic, it stopped being cool because the average Skater punk goth rocker would go in, buy stuff, then when you come to school and everyone is wearing the stuff, they will all call you a poser for trying to like homestarrunner. ive seen this stuff happen before, remember Family Guy????? now everyone knows about it, and everyone loves it, it was cool when they didnt have toys to sell.

Author:	StrongRad [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:25 pm ]
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Choc-o-lardiac Arrest wrote: you see.... what makes hoemstarrunner cool is that they havent sold out and when you go strolling into school one day carrying a Trogdor bag, a trogdor hat and a trogdor t-shirt, you want people to say "whered u get that stuff?" and you say "ohh, you mean you dont have this stuff?". its cool because not verry many people know of it, so were all bassically the Minority of cartoons. you see, when happy tree freinds sold out to hot topic, it stopped being cool because the average Skater punk goth rocker would go in, buy stuff, then when you come to school and everyone is wearing the stuff, they will all call you a poser for trying to like homestarrunner. ive seen this stuff happen before, remember Family Guy????? now everyone knows about it, and everyone loves it, it was cool when they didnt have toys to sell. By selling out, you are referring to the process by which an artist makes money from their hard work. They spend so much time on their work, that it HAS to be their source of income. Since it has to be their source of income, it behooves them to open their work to the largest audience possible. I just hate how, when someone makes a penny at something they do, they're "sellouts". People called Green Day sellouts about 12 or so years ago when they first made it big.

Author:	Shishu Hiwatari [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:59 pm ]
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JohnTheTinyCowboy wrote: Kevin DuBrow wrote: I also think that too much editing would be involved in order to put it on CN. The children that watch CN are simple. Do you think they would understand all the inside jokes made involving the 80's and drugs, etc.? If they were to put it in Adult Swim, the audience would understand. If they can get all the references in a show like ATHF or Family Guy, they'd be able to handle HR. Though I don't know if putting it on TV would be that great of an idea. They'd run out of inspiration awfully quick, I imagine. I doubt they'd put it on Adult Swim anyway. They couldn't even get Naruto on there. If only there was some sort of inbetween network, that isn't quite vulgar, but not childish. sigh*

Author:	kaemmerite [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:17 pm ]
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StrongRad wrote: I just hate how, when someone makes a penny at something they do, they're "sellouts". I've never quite understood the logic of that, either. My only theory is that when something isn't mainstream, fans of it can look down their noses at other people. "Oh, look, I know about something cool that you don't, so I'm better than you." Then once it goes mainstream and everyone knows about it, they're on equal footing with other people, and so then their defense is, "Yeah, they USED to be cool, but now that they're mainstream, they suck" so that they can still look down on the new fans. By the way, Family Guy didn't "sell out." It's not quite as good as it used to be, I admit, but I have yet to see a bad episode of it. You've got to expect the writers to be a little rusty, they hadn't worked on it for three years or so before they got uncancelled. Shishu Hiwatari wrote: I doubt they'd put it on Adult Swim anyway. They couldn't even get Naruto on there. Well, that's because Adult Swim is meant for the more mature cartoons, anime aimed at older teens. Naruto is a children's show in Japan. The reason it was edited is that there are slightly different standards between what's appropriate for children in our country and theirs (like the blood). However, even with those cultural differences, Naruto is still a children's show, and therefore it isn't meant for Adult Swim.

Author:	Bookworm [ Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:44 pm ]
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Well, it's not so much the "making a penny at something you do". It's more like, "Hey! I'll pay you loads of money if you put our product in your cartoon!" or "Hey! I'll pay you loads of money if you let us put your cartoon on our channel!" It seems like bribery to me. I'm not complaining that they're selling their stuff, but if it started appearing at Wal-Mart, I'd... I don't know what I'd do. But it would have something to do with staying off their site. Of course, it seems I'm the only one who thinks so.

Author:	StrongRad [ Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:14 am ]
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Choc-o-lardiac Arrest wrote: its only selling out when your product does go on sale in a mall or soemthing, and then everyone else you know starts buying the stuff, and then sooner or later it ends up like Pokemon, or Yugioh cards; Sucking to high heaven when everyone buys the stuff. its just because of fads, i think. but a tv show, No. If you really liked something, you'd still like it when everyone else started liking it, unless it was changed in some way to make more people liking it. If the Trogdor shirts were sold at WalMart, but wasn't changed, it'd still be as cool as it was. The only difference is that it's exposed to a larger audience. What's wrong with that? What's wrong with making the most money you can on something without changing the quality of it? Nothing. You would do it, too. IF they somehow changed the quality of their stuff and sold it at WalMart, that'd be a different story, but so long as you keep the quality of your product (like, keeping all of the 80's TV show references in the toons), it shouldn't be a problem. To me, vowing to never go to Homestarrunner.com again if TBC somehow made a deal to sell their stuff at WalMart just stinks to high heaven of fanboyism.. Unless, to make their product appeal to a broader market, then, yeah, it might not be TOO bad.

Author:	The Abominable Redhead [ Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:25 pm ]
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I think they should make it a short. Like, on Nicktoons TV, they have these half-minute cartoons called "Doodlez" and "The Entertainers". If they could do that with HR, then I guess that would work, since TBC are already making shorts anyway. And back to what Choc-O-Lardiac Arrest said, then it still wouldn't change HR's "well-known-ness", since the majority of people in this world have no idea who "The Entertainers" are, or what "Doodlez" are doodles of.

Author:	Black Metal [ Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:49 am ]
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Come On Fhqwhgads wrote: I think they should make it a short. Like, on Nicktoons TV, they have these half-minute cartoons called "Doodlez" and "The Entertainers". If they could do that with HR, then I guess that would work, since TBC are already making shorts anyway. And back to what Choc-O-Lardiac Arrest said, then it still wouldn't change HR's "well-known-ness", since the majority of people in this world have no idea who "The Entertainers" are, or what "Doodlez" are doodles of. I seem to remember saying the exact same thing in another thread and getting no support whatsoever.

Author:	Shopiom [ Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:52 am ]
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They shouldn't make it into A TV show. If they did, it would ruin the magic. And also, you wouldn't be able to see all the episodes whenever you wanted.

Author:	The Original DJ The Stick [ Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:53 am ]
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They should make it like Rocky and Bullwinkle was, with shorts of varying type. There should be one main story one, and then other featurettes, like shorts and TGS. -DJ

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